We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 538 - Vertical Limit

Episode Date: March 23, 2021

On this week's episode, Listener Request Month goes sky high when the guys talk about the Y2k rock climbing adventure, Vertical Limit! How stupendous is that opening sequence? Would Chris O'Donnell be... a good Marketing major? And it's the return of The [Definitely Not Crooked] VHS Trailer Game! PLUS: LL Cool J — excellent gift giver! Vertical Limit stars Chris O'Donnell, Robin Tunney, Bill Paxton, Stuart Wilson, Temuera Morrison, Nicholas Lea, Scott Glenn, Ben Mendelsohn, Izabella Scorupco, Alexander Siddig, and Steve Le Marquand; directed by Martin Campbell. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 this week on the program we're getting high it's vertical limit i'm andrew jupin stephen sadak eric cisco horizontal cabin oh sexy as fuck holy fuck you dirty the mattress with that one yeah yeah and we hate movies yeah Hello, everyone. for the We Hey Movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. We are now at the penultimate episode of the 2021
Starting point is 00:01:07 Listen to Request Month. We are talking Vertical Limit from the year 2000. Directed by Martin Campbell. Beautiful days. Beautiful days, man. Beautiful days. I think so far this is the best movie in Listener Request Month. I think
Starting point is 00:01:26 this is my favorite opening scene maybe ever. Like the Pulp Fiction, you know, Tim Roth and Amanda Plummer is really great to watch that really starts that movie off of the bang. This one, man, this guy just fucking drops it. Oh, it's a funny one. I would say that Goodfellas might be the best listener request month. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Well, I just mean of these, you know, the main feed fuckers, the real toilet dwelling titles. True, true. I mean, I'm just trying to segue into, hey, Patreon, everyone. Patreon.com slash we hate movies, three hour episode Goodfellas. Well, at least... Smooth as can be. At this, at least this
Starting point is 00:02:06 movie does not glorify being a gangster and doing violence like that movie does, as we all know. Oh, true. It makes it look very good and everything. Although, this is kind of like a mountain gangstering. Sure. Sure. Oh, dude. Well, I mean, we've got a fucking tale of
Starting point is 00:02:22 revenge in this movie. It's a tale is all this time. I want more out of that revenge subplot, man. Yep. Absolutely. You need to dig into that shit way earlier in this movie, man. I totally agree with you. That should be the movie, I really think. We'll get into it. But also, the biggest thing about this opening, this was the golden age of shitty font titles. This really was. Oh, God, I don't even know what you call this thing. Perestroika, I don't know what the fuck you, like, what's the font name for this piece of shit? It's called Stolen from Hackers.
Starting point is 00:02:56 doesn't it look like the font from hackers a little bit? They're all fonts that you can't really truly see properly without wearing Oakley sunglasses. You're going to want to step by the sunglass hunt on your way to the theater.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You could also do it by doing like the magic eye thing where you look past it but then it comes into focus. Hey, you know what a way better movie but very similar font on the poster art Cronenberg's Existens. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And it's also a little blurry. I mean, that was the trend at the time. It looked like the fucking letters were moving. So people were like, oh, I better go see it before it's gone. You could have gotten away with like a papyrus, like a title at this time. You could do that. Who requested this thing? Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Oh, that's a good call. You know, we get wrapped up in these goddamn episodes, man. We forget that someone gave us the gift of watching this movie. So let's hear that. real quick. Hey guys, my name is Linda, and I'm calling from Vancouver, Canada, and my pick for listener request month is the film Vertical Limit from the year 2000. 2000.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm not going to lie, this movie is really dumb, and the acting and dialogue is questionable at best, but I do enjoy coming back to it from time to time, and I think you guys are going to enjoy revisiting it, too. Okay, thanks again. Love the show, and keep up the great work. my favorite detail from that call and it's like the fifth time i've listened to it now is that she definitely says she enjoys revisiting this movie from time to time which tells me this person this gentle canadian has seen this movie at least three times that's about right
Starting point is 00:04:44 yeah that sounds right well that's some wild shit the other part is she just presupposes that we're all revisiting this classic. Also a great detail. This is my first visit, Linda. Yes. I think I saw half of this once on television and just, you know, fell off my own mountain. I wasn't
Starting point is 00:05:04 swept up in O'Donnell mania. I like the guy fine, but like I didn't see this. I didn't see The Bachelor. Oh, I've seen that. There's a lot of his. I just haven't seen. Oh, man. I got a kind of a funny
Starting point is 00:05:18 O'Donnell's story. Not that I ever met the man, but in my whole quarantine stuff, I've been re-watching a bunch of late-night talk shows because I'm a dangerous loner. I started with a letterman and I got through probably 400 or so episodes. And now I found some Conan O'Brien episodes on Archive.org. And there was one where Chris O'Donnell was on Conan. And this was like one of his early episodes, maybe third or fourth episode of Conan O'Brien. So is this around what, like Batman Forever? yeah i think so like i mean he was a she seemed like a pretty big enough star and he was telling
Starting point is 00:05:54 the uh conan and everyone that he was going to go he's going to be taking classes going back to college while continuing his movie career and uh they asked him what he's majoring in and he said marketing and everyone started laughing at him and conan's like what are you doing you're you're a movie star andy richter here should be it going to marketing that's pretty funny I mean, you know, it's interesting, though, because he was being realistic about it, right? He's like, listen, I don't know if there's some NCIS Los Angeles show in my future just yet. Like, I need the backup, right?
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's the old story about how, like, Andy Kaufman, even at, like, the height of taxi was still working like a busboy job at a diner. Because he understood that, like, at any second, it could all go away. Oh, man, you got to imagine. He's probably getting, like, an LL Cool J Christmas present. That's got to be nice. You know it is. Oh, man. Two things.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's really expensive. Chris, and it's incredibly thoughtful. Yes. Oh, yeah. No, he's attentive. You can tell L.L.A. It's a little attentive to, like, the details of personality, though, make you be like, man, I talked about this, like, back in July, just in passing.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And he just knew it. I haven't thought about it, but like, you're, you're totally right. L.L. Cool, Jay, definitely a great gift giver. You, when you're opening it, you're like, oh, come on. No. No, come it. I said this one time when we were at the gas station.
Starting point is 00:07:18 didn't even think you heard me and that's why ladies love cool j uh before we get too ahead of ourselves here i just want to hit play real quick coming soon to theaters it's the vhs trailer game vhs fraud game oh god america's favorite podcast game show revolvering around arcane media that is not fixed eric siska also what people stop yelling me on Instagram. It's a show. Yes, because I posted proof of this whole sham. And you know, Steve, I don't mind that you're perpetrating this big lie, I'll call it,
Starting point is 00:08:03 on me. You'll call it. The fact that you're doing this to the American people and our international listeners, like Linda and Canada. You're totally right, Eric. We've got to stop the steel, dude. It's preposterous. What is going on in this game?
Starting point is 00:08:18 I must say I support Sisonan. I think they are, you know, they're movie patriots. Yeah. This is going to end it some fucking asshole with a yak helmet in my house, which I do not need. Show me your tapes. Yeah, so it was a little joke we were having. We have a fun, lively group chat sometimes, and I made a joke that I was giving Christy answers. I did not give Christy answers.
Starting point is 00:08:48 whenever, okay, good to know, officers. When I commit a crime, I'll just say it was a joke. Also, you know, really quickly, I know it has nothing to do with anything and something we were talking about 10 minutes ago. Sure. I just wanted to point out something pretty, pretty astounding. NCIS Los Angeles, 2009,
Starting point is 00:09:12 too present. Of course it is. Chris O'Donnell, 274 episodes. So once you get it, the grampy market he's doing your set that's right coasting you get on that cbs fucking nonsense ride man mm-hmm you want me to play a fucking beleaguered detective for 60 year old man i'll do it this is what these idiots never understood you know what keeps on audience coming back week to week like singular episodes yes enclosed like these soup and like all the background shit in this
Starting point is 00:09:42 nc i s shit is like so light nobody gives a fuck so like solving a crime it's just a a crime of the week and we love that shit like Law and Order. Yes. It's a great show to warm your soup up too. Yes. Or it's great to watch while you're building a miniature model of a ship possibly. Oh yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It's a great show to watch when you're sitting there stewing, angry that your kids don't call you anymore. Yep. Okay, so the VHS trailer game, as you all know, is a trailer game wherein I give five clues per trailer on the VHS of this week
Starting point is 00:10:19 which is vertical limit which came out in 2000 there are four rounds this time around once one of these jokers buzz in and gets the wrong guesses incorrectly they are out for the entire round
Starting point is 00:10:33 the point system goes 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 in terms of how much each clue is worth just to can I hear Andrew's buzzer can I hear Chris's buzzer I'm the boner
Starting point is 00:10:48 can I hear Eric's buzzer I'll play it for you but I think you'll somehow not hear it whenever I buzzed there we go I will I'm gonna start docking points I just in FYI you know this game isn't fixed but I'll just read off the score just up to now it's been proven
Starting point is 00:11:08 to be a little fixed there the guest team which I believe is only Angelica Jade Bastion sorry Clint Worthing you didn't get any points. It was five points. Coming in third place right now is Eric with a very respectable 16 points. Andrew
Starting point is 00:11:24 in second place, nippin at the heels, no he's not, has 24 points, and Chris Cabin has 43, and it's totally fine. It's totally okay and regular. Maybe we'll do a bonus round where there's double points and maybe I disconnect
Starting point is 00:11:41 Chris's microphone at some point. We'll see how this goes. Okay. You know, Eric, Look at it this way, man. I think the winner of the VHS trailer game at the end of this season, I think the way you can look at it is like, that's actually the biggest loser. Can you imagine just recognizing all these movie titles? I think Chris is a real loser.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I've been fucked over so bad by buying so many VHS tapes that do not have trailers on them. I bought Poultergeist 2, a really cool clamshell tape that had no trailer. on it that I had double team coming up next week. No trailers on that either. So you know what? I had to fucking dig on YouTube and I found Vertical Limit has some really great trailers, which I will now go into. So round one, the Game Master's Clue,
Starting point is 00:12:32 an SNL star's rare solo starring effort that revolves around a stupid haircut. Stupid haircut. Is that Andrew? Oh, that's me. Oh, that's Chris, Chris. Uh, Joe Dirt. It is Joe Dirt for five big points for Chris Cabin. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Revolves around a stupid haircut. Is his mullet the plot point of the movie? Yes. It's not, it's not just a mullet. It's like a structure on his head. I don't know, man. I'm not watching fucking Joe Dirt. Andrew, you see how quickly
Starting point is 00:13:16 he got that, huh? See, my mind, normal, not diseased or perverted with lies and corruption, I was leaning, it's pad at first. I know that was too early. That's like 10 years before this, but yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So the Tribune trivia, if Chris didn't buzz in and fucking school you guys again, would have been all of Dennis Miller's scenes were filmed in one day. Oh, man. Okay, here we go. Now, round two.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Game Master's Clue, a sci-fi animated feature that is not for kids, even though they would be familiar with the title. Who's the boy, is that, that's Andrew? Final Fantasy, the Spirits Within? It is exactly Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within. That's five big points for Andrew. Fuck yeah, Bona noise. Boter! That is a movie for children, though.
Starting point is 00:14:11 It is, but it's a, it's a PG-13. Dude, I saw that movie in the theaters. That's a fucking movie for nobody. Child, adult, dog, nobody. I was like, I was thinking about, what is that nasty, dirty movie with animation? Cool world? Yeah. Trivue, trivia.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Aki Ross, who is Mingna Wen's character, was named number 87 on Maxim Magazine's hot 100 list for 2001 and was featured in, uh, on the cover of a supplemental insert. She's the only non-existed person to date to make that list. So that's cool. Why couldn't they just put Ming Na Wen on here? That would be great. She's a real person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That's creepy. Remember, that came out the summer before 9-11. And what we were worried about was that actors were going to go away. Yes, we were. The actors were going to go away because Final Fantasy is so fucking good. you can't believe how fucking good it is. Dude, it was one of the funniest fucking movie executive boomer freak out dumbass things that the whole scare, the final fantasy scare
Starting point is 00:15:26 over this movie is going to eliminate the need for actors. Man, sometimes people are just too quick to react. Insanity. Nobody cares about that movie. Nobody gives a fuck about that movie now. 21 years on, come on. There was a story in entertainment weekly about it. Somebody sat down and wrote like over 500 words about how the end of a movie acting was happening because of the final fantasy movie. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Round three motherfuckers. Game Master's Clue. A broad buddy comedy involving a controlling girlfriend, kidnapping, and a 70s pop star. that is Andrew again Saving Silverman That is saving Silverman for five big points Diamond Who is the star?
Starting point is 00:16:21 Neil Diamond maybe Shit I was like Do I need to rewatch saving Silverman I just might I just might No no absolutely don't do that You don't have to do that
Starting point is 00:16:30 You know what's amazing though dude Between this movie that we're doing today Vertical Limit Final Fantasy the Spirits Within And Saving Silverman all three I have very clear memories of cleaning movie theaters after screenings of these films where basically no one had attended it was like oh it's like the it's like the last scene of the movie oh well we can just turn the cleaning lights on now because literally no one is in this
Starting point is 00:16:59 theater watching saving silverman right there's some guys sleeping it off okay final round round four Eric this is your time to come back I'm not gonna game masters clear A medieval romp with anachronistic music and a tragic leading man. I heard the bonk bonk, bonk first, which is that? Oh, no way. You heard the bonk bonk first. Get out of here. I did.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Is that Chris? Wait, I think it was mine. Yeah, Eric, it's the bongch, bonk. Yeah, so Eric, there you go. Oh, I thought it was cabin. No, Eric, go ahead then. A knight's tale. It is a knight's tale.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah. See, see everybody. Oh, it's funny how the conspiracy just dissipates. all the sun oh we can see clearly now the brain is gone that's that's a lot of fun so that's been the VHS trailer game wherein everybody got a fucking right answer so everyone can shut the fuck up for five minutes and again leave my Instagram comments out of it all right all right it's a vertical limit sure sure this CGI bird really sucks. This hawk? Wow. There has to be. There has to be a better way. And you know what that way is?
Starting point is 00:18:18 License some goddamn B-roll of an eagle flying around and then just be like Chris O'Donnell is taking pictures of this eagle that's clearly not this movie. You licensed a bunch of really terrible avalanche B-roll. So like do it for this bird because this CGI bird that they definitely started working on in 1999 when you're making this movie. looks atrocious. It looks like it's about to drop you something, like drop you a scroll or something in a Zelda game. Well, you know what it looks like is the bullshit. It's the bullshit like cartoon eagle
Starting point is 00:18:52 that they had in the opening of the old Colbert rapport. Remember that fucker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy looked a little better. This bird looks foul. It looks like a bird joke, right? That's a bird word, right? If a foul...
Starting point is 00:19:04 Bird is the word, dude. Yes. Nice. How about points? the points have been closed for the evening my friend
Starting point is 00:19:12 you can get half a point if you spell that version of the word correctly right now let's move along FOWL
Starting point is 00:19:25 we are introduced to our hero Chris O'Donnell and his intrepid sister Annie played by what's her Robin Tony
Starting point is 00:19:36 Robin Tony Robin Tony Robin Tony is Annie Chris O'Donnell is playing Peter Mm-hmm And they're dead Dead meat?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Mm-hmm Dead meat dead The villain from Leitha Weapon 3 I don't know his actual name Stuart Wilson He's also the villain In previous episode Terminator
Starting point is 00:19:53 Teenage Meat Ninja Turtles 3 Oh yeah That's right That is right Is oh fuck yeah he is Ooh I can see it now I can wow Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:20:03 He's in lethal weapon 3 He gets shot on a bulldozer and dies in a fire. It's fantastic. Oh, really? Yeah. It's wonderful. It's really wonderful. It's one of my favorite, like, the movie sucks, but I watched it so much as a kid. I just... Is that when they're attacking, like, the construction houses?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. That movie's... That movie's nothing until that dude gets murdered at the end of that construction site. Like, everything else about that movie, I think, totally sucks, especially Joe Pesci's fucking haircut. Oh, that one is that one in his... blonde hair for no reason. Yes. That is exactly right.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He looks like a fucking short little WWF wrestler with that haircut. It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. So we're climbing on this mountain. It's a big family fuckfest on the mountain here. But then the weird thing is like they're also climbing with a bunch of other people. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Like what is going on here? Is this like a family of tour guides having these like amateurs climb with them? I think it's just an unrelated people are also climbing at the same. and they're further up. And by the way, it's so weird to like, I guess I get, I understand rock climbing like this, this intense thing, but like forcing your kids into it, it seems crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Well, it's, I mean, it's pretty easy way to kill your kids. I mean, if that's what you're looking to do long term, you could just, you know, oh, whoopsie doodle, they fell. Oh, and I survived. The biggest whoopsie doodle happens where your kids live and you die. I know. That's the real screw up Because you could
Starting point is 00:21:39 That's always the risk With this plan Yeah And you forced one of your children To murder you In terms of a designated Survivor situation Because like you have
Starting point is 00:21:48 The president The vice president Should never be At the same place At the same time Your whole family shouldn't be propelling down a mountain
Starting point is 00:21:56 At the same time You're asking for impacted tragedy You're totally right Steve That's what I was gonna say Like you know You got one rock climber In the family Okay that guy's a little
Starting point is 00:22:04 But it's fine Right But it's fine right but a family of rock climbers that all are going at the same time I mean you're just asking for a fucking family annihilation yeah did they say what happens to the mother because did she die falling off a fucking cliff too I don't know though she's ever mentioned she got bungee jumping
Starting point is 00:22:23 oh man mom broke her neck bungee jumping oh man yeah the the bunge was just a little too long for old monj miscalculated that bridge height it was a real mess Ma, she tried to bunch down to Grand Canyon. Didn't end well. She bunge right to hell.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That'd be cool. Like, she like splatters and then like, oh, I guess the bungee cord being too long wouldn't repel it back. But it'd be fun to see her corpse fly back into the air. Oh, yeah, totally. Wait, where is it? Put a trampoline under it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, it's just like Homer Simpson. Yeah, something happens like the guys ahead, I guess it's kind of like what you're doing mini golf and like there's like those fucking people that are in front of you like taking too long on the hole pisses you off. It's like that but actually cause you a death I assume
Starting point is 00:23:15 or were these like other cousins and nor other siblings that are not known. They must be like friends at least because they're all connected unless they like did the thing as a tour together. That's what I was wondering. I mean because the weird thing is so what happens is some of the people at the
Starting point is 00:23:32 top there's an accident, a dude falls and what like I don't know if it's Chris O'Donnell or the dad but one of them shouts out like oh oh we got some amateur hour up here and like those dudes all fall but they're all connected to to Chris O'Donnell and his family because like what happens is they're all like they all fall and then they're all hanging or whatever and then like a bunch all the nothing characters just immediately fall to their death but they've already screwed over our little rock climbing family here And Robin, I think they were all attached at one point.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yes, they were. Robin Toney's at the top of it. Robin Tudis on top, Chris O'Donnell's in the middle, and now Stuart Wilson, dad is at the bottom. The fault of the death of those two guys is pretty good. This whole sequence, I think, is pretty good. And I think the movie never really gets back to these heights, pun intended. Big agree there. The intensity here is never matched because this movie's definitely too long.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Because it's ludicrous. Just start your movie like this. And like, what's his name? Free Solo guy, the guy from Free Solo, like, reviewed this and was like, yeah, this would never happen. Oh, no. He's like, once that thing, like, when everybody falls, that's the weight. Like, after that, if it holds, it's going to hold. Oh, so, yeah, I see you're saying.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Like, it wouldn't loosen or whatever, because that's what's happening is it's loosening. And it's, so he, uh, student, Wilson's at the bottom is like, Peter, do me a favor. Uh, grab your knife. And he's like, sure, dad, what do you need? And he's like, could you do me a huge favor and cut me loose? And it's kind of great because, like, hey, if you're this big rock climbing guy, shouldn't you all have knives? Like, wouldn't that be part of your, like, on your pouch or whatever?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Like, you know what I mean? Because then at the very least, you could just cut yourself loose and not have your son have to murder you. I think the move there is like, uh-oh, I don't have my knife. Peter, could you drop your knife down to me, please? drop it very carefully and go from there, you know? Dropping it down, though, that's a risk.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I mean, oh, my lord, this whole sequence, I mean, this best part of the movie, for sure. But also, here's the other thing, here's the other thing. Can't this guy, this father that is begging his son to murder him to save his two children, right? Is the idea.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You're killing your sister. Can't this guy just like unhook his belt or whatever the fuck? That's what I was just thing right now. Yeah. Unclip yourself or something. right yeah carabiner or start chewing on the
Starting point is 00:26:05 wires to get loose those are some good monshire chompers he's got there he could totally get through that
Starting point is 00:26:11 you're totally right just get it to the back molars and start grinding down on it yeah it's a little
Starting point is 00:26:19 less dignified look you've got you've got to act quickly Steve you want it's either this or your fucking son cuts you
Starting point is 00:26:28 loose to your death he died like a dog because it's great because Eric's right because he like he starts like Peter just do me this favor and just cut me loose
Starting point is 00:26:38 and he's like I don't know but he's like Peter you're gonna kill you fucking shit it just turns immediately into you left your fucking
Starting point is 00:26:43 you left your skateboard in the driveway like real quick well this dude knows right like the only way this guy's gonna respond is if he goes
Starting point is 00:26:53 into his dad voice so it's like the last words my son is gonna hear me utter is like screaming at him Now, son, you clean up your room and you kill me, all right? All right? You take out the garbage and then you slit my throat, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Here's my beef with the whole thing, though, is like, I mean, it's, this whole sequence is, it's bat shit crazy. My jaw was on the floor the whole time. But this guy, you get like the impact shot and this guy just kind of lands on his back. Lame. I need a fucking face plant. I need this dude to explode like a water balloon. Loon, not nearly wet enough. We keep on talking about this.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Wetness is a big deal with these deaths, and I need some wetness here, baby. He just looks like, he just looks like he fell out the bed. Here's the thing, though, I think we're asking a little too much. I am so thrilled at Martin, because you could just cut it, you can cut it,
Starting point is 00:27:50 and then, like, he cuts him loose, and then we do a nice pan cut, like, and then, oh, wow, he wakes up in a nightmare or something. No, watching this guy fucking fall, and that's CGI, eagle is like, it's a living flying by. Dude, it would be great
Starting point is 00:28:06 the bird fucking shit on him. They should use the CGI to give us like a carnival of bones flying out of his body. Oh my God. Yes, it's like the impact happens, right? And all of like the smushy parts of the body
Starting point is 00:28:21 flatten out. But like the force of it all forces the skeleton to bounce off the ground. Yeah. It'll look like it's running around. Like it's the fucking Halloween special for a second. Well, as it is, it sounds like you're crumbling crackers over your soup when he
Starting point is 00:28:38 lands, essentially. Like, it's just like a crack. Yeah, it's just not good. It is fantastic. And Robin Tunney, because Robert Tunney specifically is like, no, no, I can make it. There's like, if she makes it to the wall, everything's going to be okay, but she obviously cannot. Cannot reach it.
Starting point is 00:28:56 No. I realized with this movie, I've realized this before, but I guess it's just reminded me of this, you know, ignorance again. And I was thinking about this a few months back in quarantine because Chelsea and I were going through all the Mission Impossible movies because she'd never seen them. How is it? Well, like, I guess what Tom Cruise is doing is a little bit different because he's doing like the totally free climb in that movie, which by the way came out like just like six months before Vertical Limit. Oh, interesting. It was like a summer summer 2000 was MIT two and then. December 2000 was this movie. Yeah, we originally
Starting point is 00:29:34 had the dad dying of cancer but we thought it'd be we saw Mission Impossible too. We thought we could be a little bit more dramatic here. But how how like when these motherfuckers are climbing do they get the thing like up in the rock so far ahead of them?
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm never... Is someone using like a Batman gun to like shoot a shoot like a claw into a rock above them or something? I do not know. I just like This whole element of outdoorsmanship is just not for me. Anybody ever do any rock climbing? No.
Starting point is 00:30:07 No. No, no, no, no. Do you guys ever do like indoor rock climbing? I got closer to smoking crack that I did to this. You buy some weed with a little bit of a, some extra on there. Yeah, that's happened. As far as your history of rocks go. Steve Sadegh stars in, uh-oh, it's chronic again.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Exactly. Maybe someone throws down like a line at the top. and it gets secured and everyone uses it? I don't really know. I've done like indoor rock climbing. There was a place in Albany that used to offer it and it was fun
Starting point is 00:30:42 but that's like obviously like way less stakes than this of course. But I'd like to do that. Yeah, it looks fun. Indoor stuff looks fun. I don't know if I'll ever get to the point where obviously not. I'm a fucking 90 year old man now.
Starting point is 00:30:55 But every day you listen to this in the future before, you know, after 2021, London, I'm very much an old man. But I could never, yeah, I couldn't see myself doing it. The only reason I would do that or have kids is to reenact this scene on a rock wall with the kids. That would be the only reason to do either thing, honestly. Surviving this instance, both Robin Tini and Chris O'Donnell do, like, I would be the world's even more so out of shape. I would be like four bills, 400 pounds.
Starting point is 00:31:29 An enormous alcoholic and never leave my house again. You know what I'm not doing? Ever going outside or doing anything outdoors. So it would just be COVID. The trauma. No, it would just be COVID, right? Exactly. Like, I feel like I'm four bills right now.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Never leave the house. Just drink all the time. Exactly. But now you're not hearing your dad in your head when you go to say, you're going to kill me. You're going to kill me. I just stopped answering the phone. That's solved that.
Starting point is 00:31:59 it would be hilarious if when he cut him he just screamed out thank you son that would be great like at the end is like you're the right thing everything's going to be okay don't you don't blame yourself don't blame me i planned this i can't believe you actually did it was a test it was a test he suddenly hits like a big net that was underneath it that they couldn't see oh shit what is it the game the whole thing was fake you failed me Peter now we go to where
Starting point is 00:32:35 your life is in my hands I mean you know as far as how they react to it or whatever Robin Tunney's character continues climbing which I feel is out of the question at least with he's like I'm just going to become a national geographic nature photographer
Starting point is 00:32:54 and that's going to be my life and also on the side become like best buzzed with the Pakistani army. Yeah, like, yeah, exiling yourself to Pakistan seems about right for reacting to this. That's about right. Continuing to climb as if you just want to join your dad in the afterlife, a little less makes sense. Well, I guess if you're chasing it, though, you know, you're just fucking, you want to chase down death, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Why don't you just do like ever, uh, do Everest naked? Listen, Annie, I'm just helping the Pakistani army conceal and hide bin Laden. that's it we cut to three years later we're in the Himalayas and yeah Chris O'Donnell is doing some nature photography
Starting point is 00:33:39 in Pakistan like in the mountains photographing some snow leopards having a good time which is great I love he gets pissed off at like the number two right here who like drops something and he's I'm trying to take pictures of these fucking snow leopards
Starting point is 00:33:56 he drops a film canister like yeah I mean I understand that you're not supposed to do that but it's not like he's just like opening a bag of like muncho's chips, you know? Are you going to be done soon or what? Anyone remember munchos the loudest of all the chips? No, I thought that was a, I thought that was like a fake name you just came up with. Munchos or munches? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Munchers. Why you look that up, Andrew, the Mission Impossible angle is interesting because Fallout, I believe, takes place sort of in an area like this, Pakistan disputed area. oh yeah i do sort of vaguely remember that actually we got up to um we did ghost protocol was our last rewatch there i have the uh 4k box it oh we should ring the bell you know what andrew that's five points actually no and it is see i knew it is indeed munchos chips so wait why were they the loudest of all the chips i don't know why it was just like the way i just put a image in the chat so you can see it you might have you might have run across these
Starting point is 00:34:58 the wild. Oh, interesting. Oh, yeah. I have proudly walked by these. We weren't even, but they weren't even that loud. Like, I think that's just what they said on the fucking package to get you to buy the bad chips. Because they saw they were awful. This, this bag anyway says a light tasting, crispy snack. Ugh. I see the link you sent. There's some reviews here and there's a two-star review. First time this product arrives with the majority already open, very disappointed.
Starting point is 00:35:30 He has a photo. He includes a photo here of all these muncho chips with the bags. They look, actually someone pulled them open. This is interesting. The UPS guy on the way is just kind of like, hey, nice. I would be because why are you
Starting point is 00:35:46 buying fucking potato chips on Amazon? And I will tell you right now, I agree with that. Because I had to see because there was a thing that was like see all buying options. There's one option. a new bag. It doesn't tell you how many are in this
Starting point is 00:36:02 fucking thing. Forty-seven dollars, Steve. Maybe they're out of like circulation and someone's hoarding them. That's possible. I would buy that. It says 2.5 ounce bags 20, I think, per container. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But still, that's overpriced. That's really, that's a lot of money for 20 bags of chips. I'm just glad you guys didn't read my one-star review that said not loud enough. oh my god here is this bag of the open chips and i am laughing also i'm sorry uh you order food from amazon snack food any food you open it it's open and you're still giving two stars would jeff bezos have to take a shit in the box for you to do one star hey they were
Starting point is 00:36:54 bunchos all right they're my favorite look look it's like eating salty air what do you want from me it's delicious i i mean here's the thing i apologize to linda as this will be that we're spending so much time on bunchos chips she's loving it oh yeah oh yeah uh i do so yeah this guy like whatever like they they leave and it's like a nice day this guy like looks away for one second trips and cripples himself in the most horrific fashion i've ever seen Dude, this trip and fall is. I don't even know. I mean, I saw the movie. I watched it this morning. I was Stone Cold Sober. I have no clue what the hell this guy was doing. How did he hurt himself? He just falls over. And he like somehow like gets in his leg wedged between two rocks and then goes the other way. And it's a pretty awful break. It's a nasty fall, but also it means absolutely nothing for this movie. I guess it gets Chris O'Donnell to base camp essentially to get this guy medical.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think they put this guy down like a dog. You never see him again. It's, I mean, it's introducing him to Tamara Morrison probably. Right. Tomar Morrison, not a lot to do in this movie. Also, not Pakistani. FYI. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:17 He's playing a Pakistani man. but it makes sense insofar as they shot this movie in New Zealand. Yes. Although he does, you know. He has one great thing to do when he diffuses a man's shoe.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Oh, this movie has too much in it that is not much going on in it. Like, okay, a shoe? A shoe. That's the thing with the Martin Campbell like playbook is
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm never going to bore you. it may not make any sense and it might be like implausible in the extreme and silly but I'm not going to bore you I wasn't bored by this really I was I was I was into the movie here and there but I feel like
Starting point is 00:39:02 there's a huge swarth in the middle that I was like really there's a 90 minute cut of this movie that's much better for sure exactly yeah yeah I don't know that I was bored per se but yeah you do kind of feel this movie there was a lot of me like looking at eBay in the middle of this movie
Starting point is 00:39:18 I paused it. Getting munchos on eBay me? Absolutely, dude. Fingers crossed, they're not open. I paused this movie and I was staggered by the fact that there was an hour left to the runtime. Ooh, that sucks. I did a pause at about 30 minutes. Yeah, I paused it like right in the middle and I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Because I see my dad fall off a fucking cliff. No. An hour. But so Peter and An An hour. are reunited awkwardly at this base camp because she, you know, is, she's gone on to become a great mountain climber in her own right. And she is leading a group of, uh, rich fucking idiots up K2 led, led of course by the late, the great Bill Paxton as Elliot Vaughn. Um, so that's like, their whole thing is like, they haven't really spoken since the death of the father, sort
Starting point is 00:40:14 of, you know, it's like, oh, what are you doing here? here's a situation here's here's a flaw in this movie not enough bill paxton because you've got a bill paxton that's in my favorite mode of bill paxton which is nervous and definitely kind of villainous that is a great bill paxton to have like he he he fucks with this one guy but there should be like three other people he can kill in that crevasse now we got a movie it's like five of them and he's like systematically fucking them over it is interesting uh character because it's just like a super coward who like has no problem killing people around him if it means his own survival. And yes, I do appreciate
Starting point is 00:40:52 that they make this guy aggressively from Texas because it reads completely right to me. Absolutely. And he's got an excellent pervert mustache. It's really wonderful. I thought it held up throughout the movie. This movie, man, it made me miss him in a big bad way. I don't know the last time I watched Bill Paxton in a movie. I mean, I feel like I've seen him in stuff since he passed or was murdered by that doctor um but this was just like man he was just so good i this is my favorite mode of of bill pexton also i mean just like scum you know coward villain guy it's kind of it's kind of a meteor version of his true lies character yes because he's kind of like a scum you know he is a scum back in that movie too he is incredible like that's kind of the problem is he's
Starting point is 00:41:45 such an amazing scumbag and that that this you can't touch it like he's talking about pissing himself in that movie like I'm a weak I have a tiny dick it's embarrassing like oh right it's incredible it's an incredible performance but like this he's just kind of
Starting point is 00:42:01 he has to keep it even because the whole movie is very even like nothing goes too out of control except for the snow right well the thing I was wondering about do you guys think there's any truth to this because it was a bit of a IMDB Tribune trivia so it could just be completely garbage
Starting point is 00:42:18 but there's a piece of trivia on there that says that this movie started out originally as a sequel to cliffhanger. I buy that kind of right? Sure. There's explosions. Explosions, a rescue mission on a mountain, right? Because I feel like if that's the case, if it was like a cliffhanger too,
Starting point is 00:42:37 regardless of, you know, Stallone's participation, then I think Paxton would have had more free reign to sort of lithgow it up a little bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah, like a Christopher O'Donnell movie, you can't be as campy as you can with a Stallone movie. Well, because Chris O'Donnell isn't that great, everybody. I mean, like, he's a totally fine. What? Great looking guy. But I mean, yeah, but that's just kind of, you know. I've always had a soft spot for him. I don't know. I mean, I don't know why. I have a soft spot for him because he's the only Robin we ever got other than Burt fucking Ward.
Starting point is 00:43:13 we stop already like making new batman properties without robin like i am sick of it i am fucking yeah it doesn't make any sense man doesn't make it and what's the deal though that fucking in them in them there snider movies and whatnot like robin has already been murdered because it's grim dude it's grim dark by the way i just grim dark i just realized what he was promoting on conan it was the 1993 three musketeers which is the reason why i like him like there's no other reason why I like him, but I watch that movie all the time. I watched that movie I think I watched that movie during lockdown
Starting point is 00:43:47 and I couldn't tell you a lick about it, even though it's got an all-star cast. Is that the one that starts with Gerard Deppard Dup Redo's going to hang himself in the barn? Which one is that? Or is that Man in the Iron Mask where they do that? That's the Man in Iron Mask. Which is also a terrible movie I watched
Starting point is 00:44:03 during Lockett. Also good Tim Curry villain, as always in that movie. The God Kim, Tim Curry. Yeah, so like, whatever. She is very much like, hey man, nice to see you. Remember when we dissolved our family? Because we don't talk anymore because I totally
Starting point is 00:44:21 blame you for our father's death. And that's a totally fine family cancellation right there. You're not making mention of this mother. I can presume that she's dead. This dad had a fucking backflop onto a rock. Like, this family's
Starting point is 00:44:37 canceled. I would be so, I would be so, Chris O'Donnell is being way too a genteel here. He's like, well, Annie, he told me to do it. And I'd be like, fucking, fuck you, Annie. You don't know what I'm living with. Having your dad scream at you? Like, I wake up fucking screaming every night. You can relax. Well, yeah, the problem here is that Chris O'Donnell says hello to her.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Avoid her entirely. Do not do this. Listen, man, you're at a tiny base camp in Pakistan at the foot of the Himalayas. First of all, what are the odds? What are the odds, indeed? But I don't think there's a lot of room for snubbing. Where are you going to go? The whole brilliance of a snub is that you do the snub and then you can escape.
Starting point is 00:45:25 But does she know that he's there before he's there? Like before he introduces? He accidentally, not accidentally, but he walks into the tent, which is like their little command center, where she just happens to be. So it's not like he. He saw her from afar and was like, ooh, perchance to spy a lady. And then, like, went after her. It was an accident like, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:45:52 And so, like, that's kind of where they're at. And we meet other people such as Ben Mendelsohn and the other guy. Dude, I have been writing Ben Mendelsohn and other guy in my notes, this whole thing. I mean, these two guys, I don't know, man. They're apparently based off of two real life. brothers who are also mountain climbing superstars but like I need fucking subtitles on these two
Starting point is 00:46:16 I don't know what the hell's going on it was a tough one for me too very Australian the two of them which is lovely lovely just a lot of drunken sexist talk like you would like between Ben Mendelsso and Ben Otherson that's
Starting point is 00:46:34 my biggest problem not my biggest but a problem I had with this movie and I have problems with movies that are also this way where it's like we got a lot of characters they're all fucking white people and they all just have like totally forgettable last names that they're being referenced by
Starting point is 00:46:53 or just like forgettable first names I had to just use the actor's names for most of my notes because like I can't keep track of it. There's so many people in this movie. There are. But like the biggest thing is like Paxton is you know he is this like
Starting point is 00:47:10 like Texas billionaire Elliot Vaughn guy. He's launching an airline so it's a little Richard Bransony and the whole thing is like this is a publicity stunt because they want to climb to the topic K2 as the inaugural flight from the airline is going to fly over and it's just going to be a big promotion thing. Even though Bill Paxton will tell you they're Paxton's character that you know that's not the case. It is the case. It's a whole very expensive, very dangerous publicity he's done for his airline which he his backstory is a couple of years earlier he tried this before and like everybody died he's like the lone survivor of that tragedy and he's just like you know it would be awesome like can you imagine being in the meeting and like all right so we launched
Starting point is 00:47:55 the airline in june everything a bunch of like remote parties would be really fun and possibly there's some cool hey i got an idea what if i go back to that mountain what killed all those people and had me in the press for years and do it again. And I could wave at the plate. Yeah, wouldn't. What if I'm waving at the plane? Wouldn't the, wouldn't the heat storm just be dying down now? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Like, right about now, you would be getting, and like, you know that Drudge Report is going to put something online being like, well, he's done it again, going to kill again, isn't he? I love when he's at this base camp, like, hashing out this idea. And Scott Glenn is kind of like the horror harbinger. to him like you kids are going to die on that mountain he definitely is and he knows that the mountain is cursed i mean there's so much about the connection of scott glenn and bill paxton's characters in this movie that are not revealed until way too late in the movie yeah and i feel like this has to be the cold open right and even you know you could work in the dad and all
Starting point is 00:49:01 of that also if you want to like they're all on this big team trying to help this rich billionaire climb this mountain or whatever and then tragedy strikes and it's the billionaire's fault like that's all kind of great because like what I want and what this movie is because this movie is a rescue mission
Starting point is 00:49:17 but what this movie needs to be is a Scott Glenn fucking revenge movie and I would be 100% here for it. Oh yeah the Walter Hill movie inside this movie is phenomenal Yes those two going at it and like him being like that will let
Starting point is 00:49:32 that'll get you really nasty Paxton like you want like a near dark That's your, I mean, that's your cliffhanger too. Yep. And you remove, you take the movie out of Chris O'Donnell's hands and you put it in Scott Glens. Great idea. I just realized that
Starting point is 00:49:48 Stallone's character was definitely the Scott Glenn character. Oh, yes. Like the one guy, I don't, I don't climb, I don't climb with people. I climb alone. Oh, yeah. You're totally fucking right, dude. Yeah, he was a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:05 John Lidd has a job of the mountain. man, and I was just like, I don't know. Be it drop a helicopter on this guy or whatever, man. That guy was bad news. Hey, quick question. How are you going to wave to a jumbo jack? I just wanted to know. Are they going to honk the horn or what?
Starting point is 00:50:23 I'm just imagining him just with like really long strand, like gray hairs, still alone with this wig. Oh, man. That's a great philosophical question. I just brought up myself, man. do uh do planes need horns or what you've got to honk a horn on the runway or what my name is uh Montgomery Wick and uh my wife is dead but I saved early child John yes and we'll be bringing him up in in a Russian gulag yeah my new best friend she's Angelica Houston she's my new
Starting point is 00:51:03 business partner. She's going to take my son, John Wick, and raise him in the Russian mafia. Don't let him get in their dogs. It gets too attached. One of the people that we meet is this Australian guy, the big hunk guy here,
Starting point is 00:51:22 who's an actor that's been in a ton of shit. The blonde guy? Yeah, Skip. Yeah, Skip. The guy's name in the movie is Skip Taylor. The Kai's name in real life is Robert Taylor. Yes. He was Agent Jones
Starting point is 00:51:37 in the Matrix, the one that is not Agent Smith. Oh. Yes. Oh. Ask your grandfather because he's been in Longmire for 63 episodes. So, wake up Grandpa and ask you about how good he was on Longmire.
Starting point is 00:51:53 But he's got a kind of funny thing because, you know, there's some complaining about, oh, we take him Paxon up that mountain or whatever. And this dude's like, yeah, well, you think that's bad. I have to take up this movie producer who has indefinite diarrhea. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:52:13 He's got the runs, mate, which is really a great one. You got the runs all the time. It never stops. It's like a spicket. You can't turn it off. The diarrhea is just coming out of his ass. I mean, I guess is a real thing. And that's, you know what you don't do?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Climb Mountains. You absolutely do not climb up to it. No. Bad idea. You sit in the back row of a movie theater. you don't climb mountains. That is the two things. Is this experience talking here?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Just, you know, hey man. If you're known to maybe shit a little bit, maybe you want to start planting your exit a little earlier. Known to shit a little bit. I love it. That whole thing is weird, though, because that, like, whoever that movie producer character is,
Starting point is 00:52:55 like, never comes back. Like, he doesn't go on the initial climb or anything, which sucks because that guy is the kind of character that it would get the rock the mountain climbing version of the shiffening from the lost world yes you know that a fucking dumpy little egg-shaped dude like that would have a horrendous death in a mountain oh dude this is the move he's on the side of the mountain you know it's like ah sorry just give me a minute and then like he goes oh my my indefinite diarrhea is he goes and the mountain starts to rubble oh no oh yeah farnelich
Starting point is 00:53:31 Fartellant. Larry the Cable Guy stars in Fart DeLange. Dude, it is yet another remake of Force Majure with Larry the cable guy
Starting point is 00:53:46 It's just called Fartalanche and it's him at a fucking Swiss skiing resort with his family and it's like, oh my God, it's an avalanche!
Starting point is 00:53:58 You ever fart so hard you endanger your entire family? He dives under the table and then it's like, Larry, there wasn't a fart of lanch, honey. You just left us all to die. Hey, cool. Now I'm definitely getting divorced. He's got like one of those big Viking horns that you would like blow into, but he just puts his asshole up to it and just blow. Yep, that's how he saves the day.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Yes, that's the final move. I like this fartal ledge idea. I'm like you think people would not like me if I wore a t-shirt that said fart a lanch on it I think they would like me even more exactly people would love you if you had that t-shirt okay great maybe you'll get a fart-a-land shirt going yeah you got you got the the ricola the yoddlers up in the mountain saying ricola oh to lunch we never see that fucking movie producer Biden we never really get back into that at all. So that's another
Starting point is 00:54:58 example of something that could be cut. Yes. Totally. We also meet Monique, played by Isabella Scurupco, more famously known as Natalia from Golden Eye. Is this the only other movie she's ever been in? That's in English, probably.
Starting point is 00:55:15 She's a big Polish actress, I think. I see. But she's like with our other guys skip there, right? They're kind of because we meet them and they're like sort of fighting with each other oh by the way no I mean yeah I mean she's not in a ton of stuff but she does continue working but she was also in she had a good like early aughts because she was in um I mean obviously she came to Hollywood bigly with golden eye but then
Starting point is 00:55:45 like I mean she was in this she's in yeah same same director's episode rain of right right right right uh previous episode rain of fire um she's also an Exorcist at the beginning. Wow. So, you know, she was around. We should mention Gold and I was another previous episode as well. Oh, that's right. One of the first, one of the first WLMs. That's right. On the
Starting point is 00:56:08 Patreon feed. Interesting. Yeah, but so she's in it and she's kind of like, she is also a climber because they're fighting about like, you know, whether or not the weather conditions are good. This whole movie is like Bill Paxton uses all of his billions of dollars to have all these
Starting point is 00:56:24 people come to this base camp where they have all like, you know, fancy computers and whatnot. They're gauging the weather and everything. And, like, she appears to not be having it with, like, the findings that Paxton's crew is after here. Yes. And also, yeah, Scott Glenn, they do have this huge party and everyone's there. And Scott Glenn does come out and be like,
Starting point is 00:56:43 what's the weather going to be like, Mr. Paxton? Bill Paxton's line right here at the start of this party, too. Because of course there's a microphone. So, of course, he's got to get on the mic. at this base camp party and he's like, welcome to the highest party in the world. And they all go fucking crazy about it. Yeah, by the way, after Scott Glenn does that like threat
Starting point is 00:57:09 and so obviously this is again, I just realized this is the perfect Stallone stuff because he's got this giant beard. And then he goes back to his like cabin and he's just like shaving it off with a straight razor, not trimming any of it first, just taking a long hairs off. Oh, a dry shave, yikes.
Starting point is 00:57:26 dude it's i was cringing i was absolutely cringing at that scene cringy is part of the movie oh but he'd probably be reading a bible he wouldn't be working with the stones or anything like that you'd just be reading a good old bible um and then we also have uh nicholas lea as tom mclaren he's kind of like the biggest supporting character here and this dude love seeing this man one of my favorite shows of all time the x files love seeing people from that show get work he played alex cry check uh throughout the series he's basically like Robin Tunney he's the ultimate guide
Starting point is 00:58:02 right he's like the leader of everything making all the decisions even though like Paxton's like bullying him into doing all of this clearly but he's like you know the as Paxton describes it like you know the best climber on this mountain and all that kind of stuff there which is fucking hilarious I mean it's just like
Starting point is 00:58:19 the fact that this guy is the best climber on the mountain and gets into the situation clearly he's not the best climber on this mountain right right yeah you get sold a bill of goods there pal you got sold a lemon mountain climbing to his credit he kept saying we have to turn back and paxton's just like no i got to wave at the plane dude it's such a bullshit thing too because you're right the whole time he's like actually i don't know bill paxton the weather's changing here uh there's i'm seeing a bunch of spin drift coming off the mountain like this isn't looking good man and he repeatedly says it and then like
Starting point is 00:58:55 after the shit hits the fan Paxton's like he says something to Paxton like I fucking told you dude the weather was changing and he's like yeah but you let me bully you didn't you what kind of leader are you and I was like oh man what a shitty thing to do to this guy I would spend
Starting point is 00:59:10 the rest of the movie like wasting my oxygen really reaming this guy out like you know what I mean oh we're dying is it awesome we had to go a little bit further why don't you wave to the plane wave from the Gravas you son of a bitch
Starting point is 00:59:27 That is the one thing that the movie does not offer Is like you know Regardless of whatever mountain climbing shenanigans I mean planes have to run on time So like it would have been hilarious if the plane Flew over like at the very end of the movie like And then you got like whatever dude in the cockpit Was like wow
Starting point is 00:59:46 I saw like an explosion there and clearly something went down That wasn't a celebratory as we thought it was going to be Here's what happens the plane starts flying over around the time this fucking nitro starts lighting up around the mountain and the Pakistani military is like that plane is an aggressor and shoots it out of the sky I like it that would have been great that would have been something um so yeah I mean that's now what happens is like once this mountain climb starts not a lot really happens here we do see Scott Glenn like sets out early in the morning like before sunrise you don't really know what's
Starting point is 01:00:22 going on there they tell you like way later in the movies movie. But like, you know, Paxton sets out, there's some other old guy who's like, maybe the, Paxton's like accountant or something who's like, hehow, this is a great day for Texas. As the class, as the as the ascent starts, you know. He's not the guy who offers the 500,000. Is he? He is the guy. Yeah. That's that guy. Okay. Because yes, they just start going and everything's going fine. But yeah, there is a storm that start that's possible to come and like you know pax's like hey man we're just a little bit further up all we got to do is move movie our little buns up there then we're waving at that plane
Starting point is 01:01:02 and it's just like well no there's a storm and that's really bad at this incredibly dangerous situation one one great moment is the weather starts turning and paxton screams at this mountain fuck you dude him saying fuck you at that mountain man is hilarious I was like The avalanche or no It's a fart of lanch He uh he squeaked one out I would like to do that would be great if he got he got like
Starting point is 01:01:29 He got like frustrated with uh The mountain and he fucking turned around and did like an ace Ventura And talked out his ass cheeks to it Yeah Uh or you could cause an avalanche by having a bag and chewing on some munchos Possibly. Yeah the last what do you don't bring it out of all this That's the loudest chip.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I mean, what do you think the snack situation is? You got like a lot of like, you're bringing a cooler with some sandwiches maybe or it's all power bar based. It's all power and ooze, I would say. It's all power bars made out of Applecores and Chinese newspapers. Nutrient pasts, nutrient oozes, all those kinds of things. I would definitely bring a deli sandwich up there, you know, like a nice turkey cheese situation. oh no fuck that dude you're climbing k2 italian combo or bust it'd be rock hard
Starting point is 01:02:25 you'd be sucking it like a popsicle ooh sandwich popsicle a billion dollar idea right there oh yeah frozen italian dressing how about after COVID we buy like an ice cream truck and we're selling sandwiches out of it like suck on a sandwich cold sandwiches
Starting point is 01:02:46 I think you could call it suck my sandwich That's what you paint On the side of the truck Oh man I ordered all these liver Verses and the kids just won't eat them Of the kids We're the only sandwich truck
Starting point is 01:02:59 Not allowed around children But the sucked by sandwich Logo We just have to like give it to like Grampies to like gum Oh yes Finally something coming out of a food truck I can eat
Starting point is 01:03:14 Let me suck this sandwich Yeah. You suck it until like the ice is gone and that roast beef goes down your throat. Yeah, I imagine you not getting that far up and taking a bite of this sandwich and hearing a big like crack. And then everybody's like, what did you do? And you're like, what? I just asked for a little romaine lettuce on the top. That's all. Just a little romayne lettuce on the top. That's all. Bartlett. Yeah. Sandwiches can make you gassy, can't they? They can. Yes, they can. there is a thing also I was thinking about it another like a thing that Paxton sort of uses against I'm just calling him Alex Kreichick from here on now oh sure cry check you know he's like
Starting point is 01:03:57 he's like oh yeah man well how about this you're supposed to be the big bad mountain climber and you're going to turn back you're going to turn back well how is that going to make your business look like threatening this dude's fucking livelihood like Like in the middle of all of this. You know, I'll come back with all my limbs and I'll come back with everyone I came up here with, which is a great idea. That's going to help my business with my keeping my fatality rate down makes my profit soar. And you know what? Worst comes to worst.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I'll just go work at a bank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's a loser's mentality, buddy. I'm going to keep on going. Yeah. So an avalanche happens. The three of them fall into this. fucking ravine. There are some other
Starting point is 01:04:45 folk that are climbing with them, like behind them. We're just murdered instantly by this avalanche. But the three, yeah, the three of them are just sort of stuck in this cave that then, you know, winds up getting covered over. And Crouchuk is like seriously injured when he falls.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Oh, right, right, right. Isn't one of the people who gets killed Alexander Sidig's friend? Yes. Yes, friend or cousin or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Deep Space Nine's Alexander Sidig, also in this movie love that dude. I think he's pretty great here but, you know, wasted.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah. He's mostly used a punching bag by Ben Mendelssohn, right? Yes. Yeah. Punching bag by Ben Mendelssohn and then just you know, meet for the body count in this movie. Was this the last pretty positive depiction of
Starting point is 01:05:31 the Muslim faith before the big one hit? Yeah, I think this is this is one of the last ones. Get it in there. Yeah, last one. Everybody get their picks. Yeah, I mean, and even in this, though, like, he's viewed as, I mean, he's shown as like a decent guy, but Ben Mendelssohn's just making fun of his faith the entire time. Yes, exactly. Well, the character itself is not coded as a villain or a, you know, a terrorist or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah. He does not escape fucking Islamophobia because Ben Mendelssohn's like, oh, are you going to pray on the mountain there? Oh, get your rug down in the snow and whatnot. do you muslimbs believe in hell it's it's great because like they all wind up going together like this scene between him and Ben Mendelsohn which we did you talk about now where he's on a prayer rug and he's praying is like oh you go do that even on a mountain and it's like yeah it's like oh hey do you believe in hell because I just wonder where
Starting point is 01:06:32 I'm going to go if this whole thing doesn't go the right way and he never lets him finish praying by the way he's asking these questions during it. Well, isn't the conclusion of the thing is like, don't you think you should let me pray on this one occasion? And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll shut up.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'll shut up. It's a real, like, all side characters die, my friend. Some of them live, some of them are comical. Some of them are inspiring. Some of them sacrifice themselves, but all side characters die.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I mean, when I heard Ben Mendelson and Ben Otherson talking to that lady, like, being like, a blow job. to her, I was like, oh, they're dead. Oh, they're dead. Like, they're fucking dead. I think for the most part, without seeing this movie ahead of time,
Starting point is 01:07:20 I nailed all of the characters who were going to die, like, but one. I really thought that Alexander Sidake was going to make it through this movie. And unfortunately not. So the bad news reaches down to base camp. There's a really uncomfortable moment where, like, a woman on the team is, like crying about this and fucking skip this Australian guy's like if you're going to do that
Starting point is 01:07:46 do it outside get your crying out in the snow probably one of the dumbest parts of this movie is their radio doesn't work inside the crevasse or whatever and Robin Toney's like I haven't
Starting point is 01:08:02 and then oh no Chris O'Donnell starts doing Morse code and Robin Tennie's like starts returning it and Bill Pax says to be like wait what are you doing and she's like oh i'm doing morris code my dad taught it to me because we're fucking survivalists and wouldn't you know it anyway and he's like wow smart man your father i'm like everyone if you're on a mountain knows morris code i just feel like that's what's going on well wait did i maybe kill your father too i've been killing a lot of people maybe i you know
Starting point is 01:08:33 that might have been my equipment i might have lent him my equipment that week who know me as a billionaire. I'm responsible for the deaths of a lot of people. It's true. We die so they live. So like there's sort of like a there's a group meeting where Chris O'Donnell is like, look,
Starting point is 01:08:58 I'm one of the only actual human beings here apparently. We got to go save these people. You know, I need four folks. You know, who's with me? And honestly, every one of these, like, because not everyone this is what I don't understand
Starting point is 01:09:12 the crowd at that party the night before is packed it's a packed party yeah right it's like hundreds of people there who are like who are these people yeah totally right like what are they doing there
Starting point is 01:09:23 not everyone was on this Paxton climb but like everyone at this base camp who cheered on this insanity should get punched right in the fucking dick because none of them offered a help out Bill Paxton or Chris O'Donnell right here
Starting point is 01:09:37 nobody look all they wanted to do was to Come to Pakistan and eat some barbecue, okay? Yeah, which is a normal thing to do, okay? But, I mean, come on, Andrew, you've been to parties before. Like, maybe the next morning you're waking up, you crash into Buddy's place. Like, hey, man, can you do me a huge favor and climb this fucking mountain? Like, no, the answer is absolutely not. It's just funny, though, because I was having a real hard time understanding, like, the purpose of all these people.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Are they just, like, climb junkies, but only, like, to go there? I think they're also with his company like they're just the people like his support staff in a way which that sucks man kind of a situation. You have to travel all the way to the foot of the Himalayas because
Starting point is 01:10:22 your fucking rich boss is a maniac Yeah, it's like South by Southwest Robert Redford is there Is that that Sundance Oh damn Yeah it's all the same though you know what I'm saying It's like it's sort of like
Starting point is 01:10:38 oh we should well i should show my face um so we determined through some uh calculations that they have a 36 hour rescue window after 36 hours the three of them are going to be dead due to high altitude exposure um chris o'donnell hilariously uh and this i feel is also a remnant maybe from an earlier script that also supports the cliffhanger two theory Chris O'Donnell gets support from the Pakistani army
Starting point is 01:11:17 this dude who at the beginning of the movie was like I like you Chris O'Donnell because you're the only fucking westerner that comes here that doesn't want to conquer anything or I like National Geographic because they don't want to conquer anything
Starting point is 01:11:29 this dude is like all right cool nature photographer I got you covered take all the nitroglycerin you want this is Roshan Seth of Gandhi fame of Indiana Jones the Temple of Doom fame
Starting point is 01:11:45 and most importantly Dahl Seam and Street Fighter Most importantly Hell yeah No this was this dude was Dahl Seam Yes he was I've never wasted much time
Starting point is 01:11:55 On that Gandy motion picture But I've seen the Street Fighter movie Multiple times That Gandhi one is long though That one is like three hours And it is boring They get trapped in a crevasse in that right Yeah, they do. They actually do.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It's a fasting. It's a fasting crevasse. Yeah. I mean, you can't eat down there. You're stuck and all the sandwiches are frozen solid. He's not an animal like these grampies were selling sandwiches too. Oh, good question. Would you be breaking your hunger strike if you're sucking on a sandwich? Oh, maybe that's how he got around it. I was just like sucking on frozen food. Yeah. Just you suck it.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah. Yeah. Just have like a five minutes. it sucks sash and you're like, yeah, that's enough. I'm good. You suck all the nutrients out of the sandwich, but you produce a full sandwich at the end that you're not eating. Now, look, what we're going to do, Muhammad, is we're going to put these frozen peas in your mouth, but then you have to
Starting point is 01:12:51 spit all of them back out when they've melted. You cannot swallow any of them. You just have to suck on the peas. He gets pee water from that and it sustains, like there's a little nutrients in that pee water. Got it. That's P-E-A, by
Starting point is 01:13:07 the way. Yeah, so this is the whole, we mentioned this, but this is where this dude's skip is like accidentally just stepping in some leaking nitroglycerin that's on the floor here and poor Tamara Morrison's got to like diffuse this guy's boot. Don't you hate when your nitroglycerin just leaks like maple syrup in your refrigerator? it just sucks so bad there are three at least well there's definitely two
Starting point is 01:13:43 but possibly three different occasions in this movie where nitro glycerin is leaking out of something put the top back on these things I think part of this is coded in like wouldn't be leaking if it was from the US Army if you know what I mean yeah I think sure you know what I'm mean wasn't it wasn't leaking this bad
Starting point is 01:14:01 when we were bombing Vietnam with it I would I would say But that, like, it has vampire rules. Like, it can't be in the sunlight. It does. Which I also read was, like, total bullshit. Like, it's fine to be in the sunlight. That's just, like, nonsense.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I don't know why screenplays just make stupid shit up like that. Like, it's nitroglycerin, man. You know, it's a volatile substance. There are ways to make that thrilling without, like, making up fake science about the sun messing with it. How are we going to do this? to find a way to drop this thing. Oh, boy, we're going to be here all night, boys.
Starting point is 01:14:39 This script has nowhere. Well, how will we get something to drop and explode? How do you do that? How do you do that? Maybe it's allergic to sun and garlic. That's allergic. You can kill it with a steak. The nitric listener has to come inside first. Oh, wow, dude, there was a photo
Starting point is 01:14:57 finish between me and you with that. Sorry. Awesome. No, I love it. Great minds think alike. This fucking shit. this movie so there is a fucking funny thing you can you can spot this guy from a mile away there is a dude in this movie named ed something or other and he's a real life like mountain climbing superstar and like they put him in this movie i guess for the mountain climbing enthusiasts that we're going to go see it sure and like it's when o'donnell is trying to look for um more of these volunteers and everything and this guy's just like yeah you're Yeah, I'm not going to do that. It's just like, you're not an actor. You can always tell when the guy's just like, well, that doesn't sound like such a good idea.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Hello, Chris O'Donnell. Oh, I have to use your character name. Hello, Peter. Okay, so when I'm stomping on your foot, you're acting in the scene. It's also to show you that like this renegade, Chris O'Donnell. Yeah, I know he hasn't climbed in a decade or something like that. but he's he's better than this fucking you know master climber because he'll go in there when it's when it's life or death he'll do it that's kind of what i felt from that well no because the whole thing is
Starting point is 01:16:15 like he refuses to volunteer because he's like hey hey peter i definitely know a suicide mission when i see it i refuse to volunteer as tribute i mean he's kind of right here because this is a suicide mission and leaving them all to die in that cave in would have saved more lives than saving them. It's absolutely true. You're talking about three against six at this point.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Yeah. There are there are three white Americans stuck in that hole. But only I mean the spoiler here is Annie Rob Robin Tooney's the only one to really make it out. Oh no, his got the
Starting point is 01:17:01 the golden eye, Isabella score right, she comes out too. Whatever, she goes up there. We're saying, we're talking about saving the three.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Only one of them makes it out. Of the three, yes, yes, the original three, yes. But I mean, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:16 it's, it's just the same one way as it is the other, right? Because they're like, the whole argument is like, hey man, this is mountain climbing.
Starting point is 01:17:23 You know what you're getting into. And it's like, okay, well, if that's the case, you know what you're getting into with this? Let's go.
Starting point is 01:17:30 It's part, Isn't there some sort of code here? I mean, the thing is, is that, like, yes, of course, like, you shouldn't go on this fucking stupid trip. They're dead. Leave it alone. But, like, yeah, I mean, tell Chris O'Dada, who comes out of this with an alive sister and a girlfriend, it turns out.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Dude, I, that is. There is an inappropriate smooch at the end of this movie, man. I could not even believe it. It's amazing. It's so good. Because it's, like, the most basic, like, oh, she's barely in it. Like, oh, yeah, but they have to be romantically legal. somehow. I don't know how. I'd, but they have to be it.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I thought she was also romantically linked to skip, though. So that was also kind of confused. Maybe it'll do a thruple situation. There are too many characters. There are just too many characters, too many threads. Yep. Yep. No, I totally agree. So
Starting point is 01:18:19 they realize you know, they, so they get the team together, right? And it's, it's Chris O'Donnell, it's this skip guy. It's our two Australian and Bash brothers here, Ben Mendelssohn and other guy
Starting point is 01:18:34 and then Natalia and that's like the oh and then Alexander Sidig his character's name is Kareem he volunteers to go and they're like oh well we sort of need one more because we need someone who knows how to do this climb super fast
Starting point is 01:18:50 let's go figure out where the fuck Scott Glenn is so you know the movie it's weird because the movie feels like it's about to get going and then they're like one more person. So like just when you thought like we got the band back together, we got to go
Starting point is 01:19:06 find another guy. It's weird that they it's weird that they send him up early. Like why isn't he just on the ground base? What was so important about going up to meet him? Part of his thing here is Scott Glenn is trying to find the corpse of his wife and I guess
Starting point is 01:19:22 he's always out looking for it. Sure. Or if you hear if you close your eyes on just such a night, you'll see him clanking against the mountain trying to find his dead wife and if you if you stop walking and crunching in the snow and just listen carefully you can hear him looking for his wife Bartlett
Starting point is 01:19:44 you see that tree there that he's checking again he's checked that tree 30,000 times he won't stop so you need when he first like sneaks out of his tent you need to have like Chris O'Donnell and maybe Ben Mendelssohn are
Starting point is 01:20:06 like sitting by the fire or something and they spy him right and Chris O'Donnell's like hey what's up with that guy and then Ben Mendelssohn tells the tale right because he just leaves and you don't know what the fuck's going on until like way later in the movie
Starting point is 01:20:21 it's not it doesn't add tension it removes it yes exactly but skip you know, does tell the tale here of, you know, Scott Glenn, yeah, his wife died on a climb, he's always out looking for the body.
Starting point is 01:20:37 His wife died specifically on the last climb with Bill Paxton. Bill Paxton. But is that a detail you get right here, though? Oh, that's a good question. I don't think so. No, I think it's like we're trying to do twisty tourneys towards the end, and it's not a twisty tourneys movie, guys.
Starting point is 01:20:54 It's a mountain climbing movie. Exactly. It's climbing. and revengey. Definitely not enough revenge in this movie. I don't know. Twisty Mountain movie sounds good. Maybe with Stallone. That's when it would have worked.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Yes, I envision this movie to be a little more like a twisty mountainy movie. You know what I'm saying? What are the Twisties turnsies? Twisty chertzy, Quinceardard. You know, just tell me the fucking store. I already to Twistee turns. What's your name again?
Starting point is 01:21:29 Ben Melbertost? It's good to meet you. Ben Mendelsohn does a weird thing when they're flying up in the chopper where he's like, because he's got to be the funny guy, these two brothers are like the quote unquote comic relief and he's like
Starting point is 01:21:44 putting his leg back behind his head and they're like, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm trying to kiss me ass goodbye. And it really, really looks like he's trying to S his own D in this helicopter. Oh, yeah. That's what he's been practicing for that for years. And when someone catches him, he's like, oh, I'm just kissing my arse. Oh, no, it's kissing my butt.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I wasn't sucking on my sandwich. Get out of here. Well, that is, I mean, that is the true mark of an athlete. Can you ask your own D? You think anyone's, uh, I think anyone's ever, like, paralyzed themselves trying to do that? Absolutely. Someone like, just you're like, almost got it. I think that's how Babe Ruth went. oh come on well this is the thing you need to get you need to clear a path so overweight gentlemen are just out of the equation yeah don't even try it folks at home so whatever they fucking recruit scott glen it's a scene that shouldn't have happened because this movie's two hours and four minutes yes uh but he's now basically like he takes over as the leader of the rescue
Starting point is 01:22:49 mission a real like no bullshit don't fuck with me performance from scott glen which i always love of the two rules. But there's a weird thing where he's like, I need the best climber, like, back at base camp to tell me what's going on. So Skip, you have to go back. But then oddly, like, he sends this dude back. This motherfucker like vanishes from the movie.
Starting point is 01:23:15 He doesn't help Scott Glenn at any point. He needs to be important at the end there. Like, oh, thank God Skip was there kind of a thing. Right, right, right. Gee, Skip, what were you doing while we were up? there. I was taking a nap. You know, I had a really early morning, and I thought
Starting point is 01:23:31 you know what? Time for a nappy poo for Skippy. I skipped it. You know, I laid down my tent, tried to ask my own D, got tired, fell asleep. Then I just jerked it. Old fashion for a good old skip there. Oh, an old fashion, yeah. I'll take an old fashion
Starting point is 01:23:49 please. Oh, no, I'm going to jerk off regularly. An old fashion is when you put a giant ice cube on your dick, a little bit of sugar and some bourbon and just go to town. Right. Be careful with that twist a lemon though, dude. Oh yeah. Don't get that in the urethra. Oh, there is.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I thought this sequence was kind of cool. So they have to take the chopper up as far as it can go before the weather gets really bad. And they all have to like jump off it one by one onto the mountain. And you know, there's some crazy shenanigans here.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Decent action. I liked the the helicopter blade is coming really close to like Natalia's head. I forgot about that. That whole thing was pretty cool. She gets cut in the arm like barely. I'm like no dude. If a helicopter rotor touches your arm you've lost your arm.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Yeah. Oh, yikes. That was a close one. Like no, if it's touching you, you're done for. She reacts like when you, you know, accidentally like stick your hand in a box fan for a second. Oh, that was dumb. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I would chop it right off. It just like, I guess maybe their thinking was like, well, she's wearing a puffy jacket. So it just got part of the jacket. That's the other thing about mountain climbing in general is if it's a, it's a thing that could kill you, but you have to dress like a complete asshole the entire time. So you will die wearing the worst clothes of your life.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Oh, yeah. That's a great point, Steve. And it's with like this high altitude mountain climbing. It's with skiing and snowboarding, all that stuff. Like, man, listen, I absolutely cannot die wearing snow pants. I just can't. Well, I refuse.
Starting point is 01:25:33 I will say they've at least tried to get a little bit more stylish these days. But like in the early 90s, that that was a death sentence on its own going out with that clothing. Well, I don't know. I think it looks kind of sharp. Oh, sure. Some neons and some little puffers. Some puffers, like the little birds. You just want to look like the kind of.
Starting point is 01:25:53 characters from Aspen Extreme all the time. Yes, I do, Chris. Okay, just checking. I kind of wished, funny enough, Cabin, that you mentioned that movie. Previous episode, by the way, 150 years ago. I kind of wished I was watching some like ski-related boob comedy while this was on. Absolutely. Some levity that isn't racist or sexist.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I'm going to be honest, mountain action, not a good genre. No. I just don't get it. I don't get what they're doing. which rules what one which one cliffhanger is rule yeah it's cliffhanger but like where do you go from there Kevin Bacon's got a few good ones
Starting point is 01:26:33 Kevin Bacon has multiple rock climbing movies well I'm counting the mountain climbing move we were wild in it it's because rocks are in it well it's nature Chris okay god damn it he's in a he's in a movie that's not very good with
Starting point is 01:26:49 with Sean Aston oh wild mountain whatever Well, not in summer, possibly. Yes. And it's not good, but it's not bad. And I watched that recently, and I was like, oh, pretty good movie.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Interesting. Yeah, I would be curious to see, like, you know, listeners at home, really great mountain climbing movies. I don't know. I'd be dead. Yeah, I don't. Nobody say Star Trek 5, by the way. That's not funny.
Starting point is 01:27:18 That doesn't count. That's the, please. Like, nobody saw that Idris Elba, Kent, Winsley. one. Oh, my Lord. Oh, no, I did not see that at all. It's, by the way. It's a movie. Yeah. The Kevin Bacon movie is Whitewater Summer, so it's more of a
Starting point is 01:27:34 rafting movie just like his other rafting movie. See, and the rafting thriller, like, there you go. Oh, yeah. Now we're now. There's two stellar ones right there. There are moments of rock climbing in that film. So that's what it sprung to mind.
Starting point is 01:27:49 It's not winter rock climbing, but nevertheless, they're putting helmets on and the whole rope situation. That's the real show. Is the ice in the snow climbing? That's the stuff that really gets you going, I think. What the hell was the name of that
Starting point is 01:28:06 Kate Winslet, Edris movie Cabin? Do you remember? I think it's literally like the mountain between us. Yeah, it's something like that, right? It's a movie where they're in a plane crash and it's like, now we're just on this mountain and have to survive or something? I'm already falling asleep.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah, here's two very interesting. actor is doing almost nothing. So this is when all of our all of our nitroglycerin starts to go haywire essentially because this is, yeah, this is when Roche and Seth is just
Starting point is 01:28:39 hanging out and like some nitroglysses blows out of the side of the shack. He's like, oh, it's allergic to sunlight. Better let everybody know. And at this point it's Ben Mendelson and Alexander Siddig are
Starting point is 01:28:55 walking around with their nitric glycerin and Chris O'Donnell gets the best that it has to like warn them kind of a thing. Yeah. Get out of the way. You gotta get rid of it. They produced this nitroglycerin in Transylvania. Watch out. Watch out.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Your nitro might turn it to a bat. But again, it's another thing where like Ben Mendelssohn and Alexander Siddig are like walking on the mountain. They're kind of like having a laugh about something and it's leaking again. Screw it. You know, before
Starting point is 01:29:29 it. All right. Make sure you got your oxygen, you got your, you got your power bars, you got your gloves. Everyone, just really quick, just screw your nitroglysseter as hard as it possibly could to the right. You just got to listen for that little child lock click, like a bottle of
Starting point is 01:29:45 Tylen on it. I would ask, if I was Crystal Diab, like, can I, could you a double bag these nitros? Do you have a double bag? Do you have a second case to put around this case please but yeah so he's trying to get their attention and they finally
Starting point is 01:30:01 like Ben Mendelso it's a weird thing where again it's like you know Mendelssohn is being like really shitty to this other guy here because like Sidig is listening to the radio and he's like I can't make it out Ben Mendelso rips it out of his hand
Starting point is 01:30:16 and is like let me try and it's kind of a little bit like a All right, buddy, English isn't your first language. Yeah. Move, which is sort of shitty. But Mendelsohn, you know, here's what Chris O'Donnell says. They start freaking out.
Starting point is 01:30:34 They run into the shade and put a bunch of snow on it. And this is like, you know, they pass a water bottle between the two of them and it falls. They're having a laugh. And then these guys blow two chunks. And I had to rewind it. And I framed it. frame by frame pieces actual pieces
Starting point is 01:30:55 I thought it was just their coats or something but it's great to hear that there's chunks involved I mean it looked like chunks to me man maybe it was just like delusional wishful thinking or something but we saw the skeletons oh dude it's just it blows
Starting point is 01:31:12 all of it see this is what it is right make this movie a little more like sci-fi and like this is a chemical that just totally destroys like everything like flesh related or whatever and like it blows up and then it's just two skeletons sitting next to each other Bill Paxson's evil company
Starting point is 01:31:29 also manufactures this and it's making it for the government or something something yep exactly and the inaugural flight from this airline or whatever is bringing like tons of this stuff from wherever the plane
Starting point is 01:31:46 leaves from to America and he's like supplying the US government with it. Make this dude really fucking crooked. Yeah. I like it. I like it. Oh, we didn't talk about the other Isabella scene where her and other Ben Mendelsohn get
Starting point is 01:32:02 into some hot soup here and like just like basically put a band-aid on a mountain. It's like a Wiley Coyote, the mountain is falling apart. And she uses like, she puts like a band-aid on to hold the mountain together essentially. Is this when she like jabs the little thing in the side of the mountain similar to what Robin Tony couldn't do? Yes. And this guy, he makes it, but then avalanche fucking destroys him. It rules. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:32:29 It is kind of great. Yeah, he was being a dick there too because he was like, he got up ahead and was like hanging down the rope teasing her. Yes. Yes, he definitely, after this whole thing, like she goes over the side and he thinks, or she thinks that like he fell because he goes over first and she winds up like, you know, sort of saving him. and then she's in peril, and then he's like, here's the rope.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Gotcha. No, just kidding. Here you go. Gotcha. Just kidding. Here you go. Fartalanch. That's right.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Definitely, dude. And he gets fucked. Somebody of my way had Taco Bell for lunch and that's the end of it. Oh, absolutely, dude. Uh-oh, caeserito. Far to lunch. But it's the, I liked the shot right here because like he is looking over the ledge at her. and they both hear the rumbling
Starting point is 01:33:22 and he's got this look in his eye of like mother but then when he turns around in the reflect you see the avalanche coming like in the reflection of his his eyeballs pretty cool and then he just gets shot off the side of the mountain
Starting point is 01:33:37 loved it he deserves it. You should see that guy splat. Woulda love to see in a splat there yeah meanwhile Robin Tunney is dealing with Bill Paxton as being a real son of a bitch about who gets the dexedrine he's being a real dexedrine
Starting point is 01:33:52 hoarder here. The word dex is being thrown around a lot. Like give me the dex. I need the decks. My wife didn't have the decks. So what is what is the, does anybody know what this medicine is supposed to do for you in this situation? It's fake because
Starting point is 01:34:08 it's supposed to be a stop edema which more, you know, you don't really need this much medicine to stop it. It's more, which they don't do in, or tell you in this movie, when you climb a mountain, you have to do it kind of in stages. you have to go up and then down and then up again so that you
Starting point is 01:34:23 get your lungs used to like what's going to happen and they don't do any of that here and basically it's another it's a real thing it's like the nitric listener it's like it's real enough but they make it into a movie thing where you're like you just need the shot every couple of hours it's essentially a watered down
Starting point is 01:34:39 version of what they give Captain America or Steve right when when he's starting up now water down though just you know survive a day yeah the what do they call the super skier formula there also by Red Skull
Starting point is 01:34:54 he also had a version of this oh great thing right here is where Natalia stumbles upon Scott Glenn's frozen white yeah and she's got like an empty thing of this dexedrine like in her hand and he's like
Starting point is 01:35:12 he always said that that she that it blew away and she didn't have it that tells me he had it all and like kind of a thing like now I'm going to kill him. She says something yeah because she's like
Starting point is 01:35:23 when did you know that he was lying and he actually Scott Glenn says from four years ago the press conference oh right because I guess at that press conference Bill Paxson was like yeah man the dexedrine that just blew right over the side and he was
Starting point is 01:35:41 Scott Glenn is like that's bullshit he she always kept it like on her person like in her jacket or whatever and Natalia's got like the empty dexedrine binder here so this and this is we're talking in a two hour and four minute movie this is like minute 100 where she's like
Starting point is 01:36:04 wait a minute you came all the way up here because you're gonna kill him and I'm like that's the movie man make that the movie that's so much more interesting yes absolutely that's the Stallone movie yep exactly and so he's just like yep I am going to kill him
Starting point is 01:36:22 moving on that'll be my favorite scene is a scene with him and the wife like like oh honey oh this is terrible they took away your body and replaced you with a real sex doll and dressed you up into your clothing
Starting point is 01:36:37 oh it is you're totally right Chris because I was thinking to myself it is a real credit to Scott Glenn being one of our greatest treasures that he is able to do this scene
Starting point is 01:36:51 with a fucking real doll and it is still somewhat effective as long as the camera is not on the real doll if it's cutting if it cuts to just looking at Scott Glenn and he's doing this because he like moves in he like gives her a little kiss she's holding like prayer beads and everything
Starting point is 01:37:08 like it's something but then every time they cut to the wife's corpse it's clearly just this dummy and it is laughable oh look at they even put your ring around its neck that's so sad you think he like got like some sort of
Starting point is 01:37:28 the point is to bring her down and bury her safely like is he like okay let me just mark on my map where she is kind of a thing remember where we park remember where my dead wife is guys it's an F7 all right look
Starting point is 01:37:44 everybody look at the map I drew a little skull and crossbones. That's where my wife's frozen corpses. What do you mean? It could also be an E. F7. I don't know how you see an E here. Oh, my poor dead real doll, wife.
Starting point is 01:38:01 She just had the face of an angel and an asshole replicated to look exactly like Jenna Jameses. That would be a great twist. If it actually was a real doll that he would go mountain climbing with and he lost it. And he just refers to it as his wife Like the Lars of the real girl situation Oh honey we got to saw your holes out real quick Let me dump you in a hot tub Listen I have a revolutionary way
Starting point is 01:38:28 To stay warm in the mountains You fuck a dog Oh god I mean that there's your twisty tourney Man right there if it's like Uh oh wait a second Our expert mountain climbers is actually just looking for his real dog better movie man i have to say better movie much better film a better film i would call it a film
Starting point is 01:38:52 um so you know back down in that cavern we haven't really talking about it too much but like cry check yeah internal injuries he's not gonna last long there's some you know tension going on between robin tony and bill paxton yeah over the dexedrine over a bunch of decisions made you know because bill paxton's also one of these dudes he's just this rich asshole like pass and blame around to everybody you know and then it sort of culminates in I have to say pretty chilling
Starting point is 01:39:20 moment of Bill Paxton injects himself with the with the dexedrine and then murders cry check and this dude's like fighting them still you know and just totally smothers this dude and kills him. He uses a syringe full of air
Starting point is 01:39:37 which is a horrible way to go oh you know I was wondering if that's what it was but like yeah I mean he puts I guess he puts the hand over the mouth to cover the screaming but yes yes okay yeah yeah a little air in there so that dude died horribly
Starting point is 01:39:52 almost twice actually only second time I've ever seen that after absolute power oh I forgot yeah that's the method of murder in that movie too yeah Clint kills Dennis Hayesbert that way ooh right yeah so cry check out Robin Tunney realizes what's going on
Starting point is 01:40:10 and there's a weird like she flips out and starts fighting with Bill Paxton, but then they like cut away, and when they cut back the two of them are totally fine again. Some bad editing here, because like Tony, like, really just attacks him, like, you fucking killed this guy. They start fighting, you know, in the cave.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Would have liked that to continue. But when they cut back, it's like, that's when they shove the... Is this a bag of blood up through the ice? Yes. Yes, it is. This is insane. Whose blood? Crychecks? They drained him, literally like a vampire.
Starting point is 01:40:42 It's nuts. Oh, my God, dude, like a fucking stuck pig. A blood bath to identify where they are because they, like, blow it up so the blood is everywhere over this snow. It's pretty insane. I feel like they should have set it up a little more because it's like, because I had the same reaction. I was like, wait, what are they doing? It comes to- Exactly, dude.
Starting point is 01:41:02 It comes together in like three minutes. I'm not kidding you. I thought that, like, because they're like, they're trying to unfree something. So I thought they were going to put it in his body to warm it up, like. Luke in the fucking, it is little, what's the thing he's riding all the time? Oh, sleeping in the taunton, that's what I thought that he was doing. But then, like, the blood bag comes out and I'm like, okay, I guess this is what we're doing. All right, guys, we're going to sleep inside Alex Crycheck, Robert Toad, do you got it?
Starting point is 01:41:30 All right, I'm going to take the first shift. I'm just slip inside this Alex Crycheck. I'm a little bigger than him, so I'm going to stretch him out a little bit. Oh, he's tearing. He's tearing. My skin suit's tearing. Look, I only got to keep my. I'll throat and my lungs warm, so I'm just going to stick my head into his body,
Starting point is 01:41:46 and the rest of my body will stay outside, and this will look normal to you. Wow, it's like a Hellraiser movie, me doing this. Weird. Oh, drinking his blood. Oh, yep. That's a copper taste. Oh, boy. Copper taste. Hey, he doesn't taste so bad. Oh, hey, now I'm a cannibal. Now I see what the Donner Party was doing. Barbecue. We're going to have to serve him up Texas style. Pulled cry check. Ooh, I like that.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Ooh, yeah. You just like let that cry check simmer for like nine hours. Oh, yeah. Overnight, dude. Fall off the bone. That's how you get your skeleton, right? Yeah, I think cooking. Slow cook that mother.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Cooking humans long is what you probably want to do. Otherwise, that quick seeer like we were talking about the other week. Yeah. You don't want a human tartar. sure yeah oh no way dude no i can't eat people anymore always give me the farts you ever get the dave farts after eat dave oh man dave farts are the worst man i had some some bloody ass shits after some dave meals oh man oh man a a a remake of cannibal holocaust starring layer the cable guy now that i can look at that
Starting point is 01:43:12 that I could get into, it would never see the light of day and everybody involved would be killed. But I would like it. It would also, it would somehow be more racist. Oh, yeah, easily. They'd find a way. So in another weird, like, did you really have to do this? They find, you know, they see the blood spatter,
Starting point is 01:43:36 so they know where they're hiding and everything. And they're hiding trapped. and Chris O'Donnell makes a little hole in the snow and he pours like all of this nitroglycerin into this little hole and I'm like I don't know man you have not really determined how deep they are or anything like that
Starting point is 01:43:55 you're just like you're filling the fucking windshield wiper fluid on your car just dumping the whole thing in I don't know it's maybe a little bit at a time yeah I think a little dabble do you kind of a situation with nitroglycerine I think. Yeah, because this explosion is straight out of fucking commander.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Yeah, I just imagine him like Homer with the lighter fluid, just spraying it on the grill, spraying it on the grill, but with the nitro, just shaking it out, shaking it out. Oh, man. And yeah, they just, they explode this whole thing. And there's like, there's, now finally there's some sort of detonator involved too. also weirdly Scott Glenn
Starting point is 01:44:41 kind of disappears from this part of the movie Yeah Yes They're like going to bed And basically Robin Tunney This is before they even meet them But Robin Tony's like
Starting point is 01:44:51 Hey don't come for me By the way I forgive you for killing our father Which you definitely did I did not know She's like you did what you had to do And Scott Glenn also gives him The free pass earlier in the film
Starting point is 01:45:03 We didn't mention that But he's like hey man I would have done the same thing And your dad, your dad definitely would have done the same thing. Think about that. He would have cut you loose. But they like leave early because I think I think Chris O'Donnell thinks that Scott Glenn's going to be out for revenge and not trying to save his sister is the idea. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Okay. All right. I sort of miss that there. But he is like a little bit behind them essentially. Right. And so, you know, they attempt to pull Robin Tunney out and rescue her. she at this point has really she is not
Starting point is 01:45:40 like conscious basically right yes like she's got real bad I mean whatever sickness and it's like it's bad for her and you know there's the whole rescue scene here is it's kind of you know part of this movie I have to say
Starting point is 01:45:58 was a little hard for me to follow like this end part especially like the editing and all this action I didn't really understand what was going on but then all of a sudden Scott Glenn drops down into the hole and is about to like face off with bill paxton one on one and he kind of does that like i'm holding you over the side but i'm not going to do it but i'm just trying to like freak you out like bill do it bill paxton for he he first he like swings at him with this fucking like pick accent so he's admitting that he did kill this guy's wife yes well he says
Starting point is 01:46:29 you're here to kill me and then he says yes but then he puts a carabiner on him like i'm gonna save you I'm a good guy. Yeah. Right. Well, that's because Chris O'Donnell's baby voice got in his fucking head. Like, don't kill him. Please don't kill him. He's not.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Okay, he's terrible. He's terrible. But don't kill him. But it's just amazing. I mean, and talk about just a fucking screenplay contrivance here, man. But like, they find themselves in the exact same situation as the beginning of the movie. And, oh, what good news? Scott Glenn doesn't leave the house without a knife.
Starting point is 01:47:05 And Bill Paxton is behind him. It's actually kind of great because Bill Paxton like sees the knife and he realizes what's about to go down. And he's freaking out. He's like, no, no, no, no. And Scott Glenn cuts this rope and the two of them go to hell tonight. Well, they, do anyone watch the extended one on voodoo TV? No, there's an extended. No.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Please tell us. Does he sing happy day before he does it? No, when they're falling down, they pass Ian McKellen and the Ballrog. Oh, no. but you know that's the problem with this death put it on a actual cliff face and let me see these guys go curse blat of some kind this is just a pit of darkness they fall two feet and you never see him again yes i know it sucks i mean the only thing that is kind of funny is you hear bill pexton screaming the whole way down um but yeah you know you know they they all the rest of them
Starting point is 01:48:02 survive and get back down to base camp this is the there is just absolutely no justification for fucking kissing in this movie. No, I mean like, but yeah, again, I thought she was with Skip. What's Skip going to say about this? I don't know, man, but it's weird because they're just like in this tent. They exchange a few words and then all of a sudden they're making out. And I was like, wait a second. Was there something like deleted scene where they bonded by a campfire one night or something?
Starting point is 01:48:27 There must be, right? There has to be, this movie's butchering. There has to be because they barely, they barely talk to each other in this movie. What I think it is, is because when she talks about Skip, she very much inferred that, like, it's a fuck buddy situation. It's not like a- Oh, is that right? Yeah, it's just like whenever I need a good lay, me and Skip do it up here. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:48:47 That's like what she's kind of like, because she's like, he's a massage, you know, he's a misogynist. He's a sexist. I hate him. But yeah, we sleep together. Yeah, I don't know. You're not going to measure up to skip, dude. No.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Hey, Chris O'Donnell. You're cute, but that guy's got a dick. Yeah, it's tall order right there. I mean, I was chuckling, dude, because at the beginning of the movie, when they're just thrilled back at the base camp, there are several scenes where Chris O'Donnell is talking to this guy playing Skip, and this dude is so much taller than Chris O'Donnell. Chris O'Donnell is like craning his neck to talk at this guy. It's awesome. Mr. O'Donnell, would you like me to bench press you? I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Another aggravating part of the ending of this movie is we take a little time to pan to the wall of the floor. fallen. Oh, get out of here. Dead here. Oh, Jesus. And we have to see the racist, sexist, brothers, Ben Mendelsohn and other Mendelsohn and it's just a... Kareem and his cousin or friend or whatever also added. And Crycheck also gets his own thing. Oh, and then what you see, too, is Scott Glenn has a little plate next to the memorial plate like for his wife. So they're all... It would be... That's nice. They're all joining. together in the afterlife. It would be funny if it ends on like a shot of
Starting point is 01:50:06 like Scott Glead's body at the bottom of the fucking crevasse broken into smiling up into the heavens because you finally got the one thing it got. Exactly. Yes. I love it. I would really love that.
Starting point is 01:50:24 And I mean, you know, whatever. Robin Toney survives. You know, she and Chris O'Donnell have like a quick little scene. I have to say, this movie knows, it feels like the movie knows that it's already too long because it really gets over with. Oh, yeah. Like the last shot is really Chris O'Donnell just looking at this wall of dead, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:45 the dead names and everything. And then it just goes right to directed by Martin Campbell. I was like, hey, I'll take it, honestly. I don't need some epilogue where, you know, the two of them like bro and sis, mountain climbing again six months later, anything like that, you know. Let's go climb at the. at the rock that killed Dad. Let's go, come on,
Starting point is 01:51:06 come on, bud, let's go there. Let's go, like, rip all the wounds back open. They take nitro-glisser in there and blow up that mound. This is for my dad. Fuck you, you stupid, beaut. You beaut. Whereas my mind starts playing
Starting point is 01:51:22 when their fingers are up. Who would have guessed that that mountain had all the credit card information as well for everyone in America. Oh, man, and that is the end of the movie, folks. Would anybody recommend it? We'll start with you, Steve Sadek, avid mountain climber that you are. Oh, yeah, well, as a mountain climber, not so much as a movie fan.
Starting point is 01:51:42 No, I like this movie. We had fun with it last night. I do agree that it's definitely 20 minutes too long. There's enough good kills that keeps me going. I could have used more packs that. He used a lot more stuff. But all in all, a solid recommend for me. Chris Cabin?
Starting point is 01:52:01 Oh, yeah, I have to. I mean, like I said, it's not, it's very stupid. It's very, very stupid. But it's never boring. Like, all the stuff that they pack into it makes it not boring. It's also makes it stupid as hell. But, you know, and Martin Campbell, you know, he keeps things moving. I didn't feel like it slowed down too much in the middle. Although, like, those scenes in the cave with those three do go on sometimes. They really do. It's rough. I did like the nitro, like, referencing the movie that nobody's seen the wages of fear. Uh, but, um, you know, yeah, I thought it was pretty good for a Sunday morning kind of movie. If I saw it on TBS again, I probably would watch through the end. Right, right, right, right. Uh, Eric Siskin. Well, I am a no on this one. I just, I found it tedious overlong, longer than Star Wars. And to be honest, I kind of got tired of watching people fall. I just got tired. Wow.
Starting point is 01:52:59 So I'm, I guess there is no good movie in this. genre besides maybe cliffanger but for me it just didn't work today for whatever reason right now it happens man um i would say that it's it's a recommend for me um because what i was realizing while i was watching it the kinds of deaths that you're seeing in this movie real like take that kind of deaths are the same feeling i get when i watch like a disaster movie yeah yeah like the that the one brother getting just shoved off the mountain with the avalanche i kind of to have the same feeling in my gut as like
Starting point is 01:53:35 John Carroll Lynch jumping into that lava and volcano you know just like stupid insane deaths like that. I don't know but it was yeah it is definitely too long like you got a shave yeah like you said Steve at least 20 minutes off of this movie
Starting point is 01:53:52 and maybe find you know a little bit of a shift there because I need more Scott Glenn I need that revenge story man I really do a movie that this also had me thinking about it's not mountain climbing but it is like you know very harsh cold conditions
Starting point is 01:54:08 um that I think is a great movie that not a lot of people saw a couple years ago is Arctic with Mads Mickelson. Oh yeah it's not bad he's a he plays yeah he plays a guy who's in a plane crash in the Arctic and he's got to like
Starting point is 01:54:24 survive until like he finds help most of the movie is just him and it's kind of great sort of the exact opposite of this, where this movie has way too many characters. I'll have to check that out. Arctic with Mads Mikkelson. Yeah, dude, definitely recommend. But yeah, I would recommend this. I don't know. Not, you know, not a whole hog recommend, but definitely, like, if you want some hilarious kills and a bunch of actors, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:50 that we're doing stuff in the early 2000s, very, you know, not just the font makes this movie feel very early 2000s, but like almost everybody in it also makes it feel very early 2000s. yeah and it's also like it's funny you say volcano because it does feel like weather is the enemy blended with like a thrill a sports thriller mountain movie like the right the this is still the era of the weather is the villain before you know other villains show up in a year or a year or so right yeah uh and that is vertical limit uh from 2000 directed by martin campbell um big thanks to uh who wasn't that called in from vancouver Linda.
Starting point is 01:55:32 Linda. Thank you, Linda. Where's the tuna? Oh, different Linda. Different Linda entirely. Sorry about that. But if you want more We Hate Movies, of course,
Starting point is 01:55:41 check out patreon.com slash we hate movies. We're doing listener request month all through the vast majority of the selections this month, including a three-hour-long. We Love Movies episode on Goodfellas that came out a couple weeks back.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Definitely want to check that out. Some listener-requested episodes of TNG will be coming out. We got back to back, literally back to back episodes on the Nexus. We've got a Transformers episode that has a lot more 60-9ing talk than you'd imagine in that kind of an episode.
Starting point is 01:56:12 But yeah, yeah. Well, you know, when we cannot make heads or tails of a cartoon, dude, we go to the strength, which is indeed talking about 69ing. Speaking of which, the horse X-wing pilot, I'd like to see that guy's 69. Ho Hess Eckwish on the Gleap Glossory. was a horse that piloted a next
Starting point is 01:56:33 wing in the Star Wars EU. He has a tragic story. Oh, my God. These guys were in tears. You're going to have to listen to that episode. And the big rad thing that we got coming out this month. We got a couple
Starting point is 01:56:48 of rad things, I have to say. The Snyder Sessions is releasing this month. That is our extravaganza breaking down the four-hour Snyder cut of Justice League. and Melro 2.0 had another episode. Oh, yeah, Melro 2 and O, definitely. Not a listener requested, but just us doing our thing, which is fine, because that shows fun as fuck, and I love doing it. And then awesome commentary coming out by the end of the month.
Starting point is 01:57:16 The Enter the Ninja Mentary, which we just laid down and debuted some, or did we debut the art yet from Philippe? Maybe now. We did Snyder sessions. I don't think we have yet, but that movie is a, you know, a Canon classic, 1981 picture. That's a lot of fun and you're going to want to have fun with us. So a lot of stuff on the Patreon have to say jam-packed this month. Love to see it. Love to see it. And as always, next Tuesday, the show rolls on here on the main feed. It is the final week coming up of Listener Request Month. And Steve, what are we going out with? We are going out with a double bang because it's double team with Jean-Clau Van Dam and Dan. And Danny Roman Denny Roman
Starting point is 01:58:02 I should say going into the next week I've never seen this movie I haven't either I saw it years and years ago I couldn't tell you much about it but I think we're in for
Starting point is 01:58:14 kind of a treat in a battle I like you know what I really like what wound up happening here because if it works out this way with the double team if double team is the best movie
Starting point is 01:58:24 then what has happened is with this listener request month the way that we structured it with all of these WHM episodes on the main feed, it has just ascended in quality until we reach double team. Because we start with the dregs of
Starting point is 01:58:38 humanity with the pest and just kind of went up all the way to double team. I think that's pretty cool. Also, co-starring Mickey Rourke. Oh, I had no idea. No way. In double team? Yeah. Oh, fuck. Well, I got to get out of here and watch a double team right now then.
Starting point is 01:58:56 But until next week, when we are closing out, this very exciting listener request month with double team. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Zedak. Eric Cisco. Chris Cabin. Take it easy. Thank you.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.