We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 544 - The Avengers (1998)
Episode Date: April 27, 2021On this week's episode, our unofficial Sean-Gone month comes to an end with a discussion about the totally baffling shit-show, 1998's The Avengers! How on Earth did Warner Brothers allow this to be re...leased as-is? Have two lead actors ever had less chemistry than Uma and Ralph? And what is the value of not having Eddie Izzard speak for the whole film? PLUS: If Jim Broadbent appeared in a snuff film... better movie? The Avengers stars Ralph Fiennes, Uma Thurman, Sean Connery, Jim Broadbent, Fiona Shaw, and Eddie Izzard; directed by Jeremiah Chechik. Check out WHM at FRQNCY in June! Catch WHM on tour this fall, hopefully! WHM Merch Store Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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this week on the program no not that shitty Avengers the shitty Avengers the shitty one from
the 90s it's the Avengers I'm Andrew Jupin Stephen Shadak
Eric Shonska tip tip Chris Cabin and we hate movies
Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning into the fine program. As always, that's right. This is another one that I feel like has been, you know, on the docket here and there, requested a lot, finally getting to it. It's the Avengers.
from 1998, directed sort of by Jeremiah Chechick.
Wow, this is one for the ages.
You know, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna come at you right off the top of the top here.
I can't, I can't stand by and call the other Avengers movie shitty now.
Come on, guys.
You're right.
It's worse than that.
Crappy.
How about crappie?
That's a good one.
A crappy one.
Everybody.
You know what's funny is I never, even when I saw it in the theaters, and I noped right out of
MCU there. I've been liking some of the output since then, but I was never on the Avengers
train. I mean, I'll tell you this, Steve, if you got yourself four movies called the Avengers
and three of them fucking suck, that's a shitty Avengers. Sure. That's my Avengers math about. That's
fair. The first one is really fun. It's, it is a you catch that sucker on FX and it's always
on FX. You'll watch 48 minutes of that movie and be like, this is kind of cool. Oh, it's a
dinner time?
Great, turn it off.
I'm sure other people will.
I'm sure they will.
Oh, come on.
48 minutes?
48 minutes of that piece of shit.
I honestly don't know that I would do that, Steve, to be totally up front with you.
I'd full on like that movie, but you know, that's all we're talking about.
We're talking about the actual shitty Avengers.
Yes, the shittier Avengers.
The thing we loved doing in the 90s especially, bringing back, bringing out film versions of television shows that no one gave a fuck about.
that something would stick to the wall because Mission Impossible was a success.
Let me, let me stop the tweets.
People in jolly old London town probably like, you know, loved the television property and it's okay to like that.
Fine.
I, oh, you go.
I have no idea.
I mean, my extent of knowing about the source material is that they're on the cover of,
I think, the first television personalities record, which is awesome.
but like yeah
that's about my extent of knowledge
of this piece of shit
I guess the franchise in general you mean right
yeah I watched an episode of it
before in while watching
this because I was like well nothing's here
and even that it's just
it's like drinking like pond water
you're just like oh stop this
across the pond water
that was 1960s TV show
yeah yeah I mean I
but I fell for some of those
TV movie remake
bullshit. I remember being like
first in line for the Mod Squad
and I have no idea why. I have no
idea why. Me too.
That's insane. I was
so fucking jack
to see that movie in the theaters. And I
could not tell you why. I've never seen a second of that
television show. I barely knew what it was.
Like I knew that it was a show and like
you kind of would get it here and there
on like a Nick at Night situation
or like a TV land, whatever it was
at the time that movie came out. But like
like I had no business
being excited about that movie and I was there
opening weekend. I must
confess I've never seen the Mott Squad
movie. Yeah, I think I think
I probably did at some point on
on telly. I'm going to start talking British
for people. Sure. But I
don't really remember it. She
it's like a, you know, they're three sexy
whatever is going after
Bill Lane's kind of a thing.
I feel like Kate, uh,
what do you call it there? What's her name? Claire Dane.
Claire Dane's like gets beat up
by somebody that's a little uncomfortable that's all i kind of remember i don't really remember it's
like they're like they're supposed to be teenagers that are assigned to like work with an undercover
cop or something which might also have been the plot of the television show i don't know but also
you got floating around in that movie dennis farina uh and josh brolin i think too
wow that's right i remember also just from the commercial at having like those really like
blown out colors like from like gone in 60 seconds like the the brookheimer special yeah yeah no it
i mean if you look at giovanni rabisi in this movie you it's indistinguishable from giovanni
giovanni rubec in gone in 60 seconds and see anything to not talk about the avengers
nineteen ninety eight you know what speaking of let me just hit play real quick
comment soon to theaters oh son of a beach if there was ever an episode that desperately
needed the VHS trailer game.
It's the Avengers, ladies and gentlemen.
Now, I want to, like, just
we should do, like, a little bit of an update,
recap. There was a VHS
trailer game on YouTube that maybe
people did not see, and then there was one
on the Rambo Live show.
Yes, check out the one on YouTube.
It's under the Green Room
Live, but the Rambo Live
show is gone forever,
but Eric had a bit of a run
there, and so did Andrew on both
of those. So, the scores,
are a bit more competitive here. As we sort of round in, the last VHS trailer game will be
sometime in the month of August. And that'll be the end of the season. Currently, Chris is still
in the lead with 64 big points. Oh, they're big for him. They are big. Only for me. Okay.
They don't fit well, Chris. You should take them back. Let's hear the small points for everyone
else. Yes, the meager points. No, Andrew is nipping at his heels with 59 points in a striking
distance strike them uh and eric is in a very respectable third place was 41 points
pretty good talking yeah this is these are good things you forgot something steve what's
what's your score currently it's zero okay i see all right looking pretty good for me i guess
i got the bronze yeah well no one's like oh you know uh uh no one's asking adam silver the
commissioner of the nba what how many rings he has they're just like dude it's pretty cool that
guy runs the NBA. So that's how that works.
Oh, that's how
that works, I guess. I like that you're Adam Silver
and not Roger Goodell of the
NFL. I wouldn't want to be Roger
Goodell. Excuse me. Who is Adam Silver?
Adam Silver is the commissioner of the NBA. Oh, okay.
I think the NFL makes
more sense because, like, me taking a stand and being punished
for it, it's been weird.
Yeah, that's true. Tell the truth. I will
tell the truth eventually.
Plus all the brain damage this fucking game gives people.
That's what I was going to say, dude, the fucking CT I have from playing this thing.
I drink so much during these.
I mean, that's the problem.
That's the problem.
It's like I'm getting too stupid.
Okay.
So this was on the Avengers 1998 VHS, although I'm going to have to do the thing where I give you guys the years because there wasn't any proper trailers, but a very large.
check out these VHS tapes
for the WB Centennial Collection
one of them
Oh shit
You know who loves that is Chris
Do I?
Yeah
I don't know what it is
What are these?
The Centennial collection
Your dad pirated it from Columbia House
Yes
Well it was like a lot of just like
Some of the greatest movies
WB ever has ever made
And also for new
Great Prices
Kind of a thing like
which is incredible because
like I don't know what it is
but these kinds of commercials always happen
Universal did one for the centennial
but so for Warner Brothers it's like
you know
you have the tape on
for the Avengers 1998
but remember when we put out
Casablanca
exactly
these are all pretty much in the year
and the decade of the 90s
just to give you a heads up
so there's only three rounds this time around
and I will give you the year
every time this first one takes us
back to the year of 19
1890, one nine, nine, zero.
All right, everybody, everybody got their buzzers.
Give me your buzzer, Andrew, Chris, and Eric.
Okay.
So, here we go.
Everybody's ready.
And just to round up yet again, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 is the order of points.
And if you guess incorrectly within the round, you are out of the round until we go to the next trailer.
Here we go.
uh 1990 game masters clue the second and final entry in a hunky action franchise that went out
in a blaze of glory 1990 action franchise hunky action franchise that went out in a blaze of glory
so there's a fire at the end of it i'm just saying it went out in a blaze of glory uh that
is Chris the Hong?
Yeah, that's for me.
Okay, what do you got?
Young Guns 2?
It is Young Guns 2.
Wow.
And The Blaze of Glory is the Bon Jovi.
Oh, shit.
I'm going now.
He'll blaze of glory.
So this is actually the Bon Jovi game.
I should know Bon Jovi.
You should.
Of course you should.
Dude, what was it?
Where the fuck did we just see that son of a bitch?
There was something.
Oh, man.
I'm not going to remember.
No, was it, maybe a New Year's Eve thing?
There was something recently.
We got a New Year's Eve party with Bon Jovi, dude?
I wish, but actually not this.
Whatever the hell it was, it was like,
and now let's go over to Bon Jovi.
And it's like, it's Bon Jovi.
I'm like the end of some pier in California.
And it's like him.
And like he, I think had like maybe an acoustic guitar
might have just been singing.
And then it was like a dude with a cello.
and like all these other non bon jovi related instruments and i was like what are we doing bon jovi and it sucked
speaking of uh kind of sucks as young guns too not good with the uh the elderly uh emilio estvez
playing uh billy the kid as an old man in the 50s and bradley whitford comes to interview him
as a intrepid reporter being like i found out who billy the kid actually was
And it's, I mean, he's doing old man voice.
Yeah.
I wish Billy the kid.
That's terrible.
It's like Dustin Hoffman and Little Big Man.
Absolutely.
I think that was probably the influence.
Yeah.
That's awful.
There.
I've never seen either young guns, by the way.
Is the first young guns any damn good or not so much?
You know what?
They're, they're, they're, they're, it's fine.
It's not, you know, people in Gen X will tell you otherwise, but they're kind of not good.
But the first one is,
is probably worth a look
just for that all-star cast
it's really incredible
a hunky all-star cast
okay so
everybody got their buzzers out again
round two
1998
and I feel like this one's gonna go fast
ladies and gentlemen
an R-rated picture
that single-handedly
rescued the comic book genre
from the dumps
I got Andrew Juba with a Boeing
that would be Blade
yeah that is Blade
Chris Cabin's
favorite movie that was also that was almost going to be my clue by the way but that would have been fucked up but i will say i probably it's too easy of a clue however i just want everyone to always be saying that because let it be known all of your comic book movies is it you have to thank mr wesley snipes for them i'm sorry you have to just have to legally it's absolutely true and i got to tell you this news and who knows like by the time it actually comes out but the fact that this maherciala
Blade is supposedly PG-13.
Get the fuck out of here.
No, thank you.
Kiss my ass, man.
Thanks, what are we doing?
Like, come on.
That's just disrespectful.
Yeah, why bother?
Because not only is that like cutting down on the violence, but I'll tell you what,
one of the great joys of Blade is just the profanities strewn everywhere.
I mean, so dumb.
It was going to be, it was going to be digital blood anyway, so it wasn't really going to like it.
So, but like, at least there was some promise.
Some promise.
Fuck.
And Mearshal, yeah.
I mean,
but they're doing
that Deadpool that's supposed
to be R, right?
Maybe if that does
well and it comes out
before, they'll be like,
oh, maybe we can do
these R-rated movies.
You know,
as always,
wait for Blade 2
for it to get good.
Wait, but didn't we
already have two
Deadpool movies?
What are you talking about?
Well, no,
they're doing a third
Deadpool movie
under the Disney umbrella
or, you know,
now the Disney runs
owns everything.
Yeah.
And they've at least said
privately or publicly
that it's good,
that will be R-rated
because,
I mean,
how are you going to,
not going to have
R-rated Deadpool movie
you know and I'm how can I would ask the same thing
for a fucking blade movie about fucking vampires
yep yep Deadpool's gonna say fuck twice
dead yeah Deadpool so he can be like
hey I'm gonna be over here eating my
enchiladas or whatever the fuck lick my bean bag
R rating
oh wow what brilliant he did it again
what's uh no what is that
I'm gonna go on Red Bubble and get the
Deadpool lick my bead bag t-shirt
Oh Chimmy Chongas
Jimmy John is he loves.
What red bubble? What is that now?
It's like a art site that's not even legal where you can get
t-shirts of a of comic book characters doing stuff.
Not doing stuff, but you know, like, so you've heard.
So I've heard.
Yeah.
Doing stuff like Lois Griffin and.
No, no, no.
I mean, maybe if you get to the depths of it.
You know what?
I love fucking cartoon to pornography so much.
I'm going to wear it at Disney World.
Of course.
Can someone isolate that sound by?
and play it back everywhere you know what
here's the here's a fun game
you get a group of your friends together right
everybody's vaxed up ready to go back
to amusement parks right
you get some of these fucking
these degenerate
Disney t-shirts that Steve's trying
to sell you here today
not trying to sell any of these real
these real like hardcore disgusting
you draw what is what is going on with
goofy's fingers right
you get these t-shirts all
all your group of friends wears these
t-shirts right you go into the
Disney World Park. Then you time and see who can last the longest before getting ejected by
security. Who can last the longest before ejaculate? That's what I thought you were going.
No, definitely not. No, I just want to see before you get like caught by the Disneyland fuzz or
whatever. All right. So here we go. Final round going to 1996 in the Centennial Collection.
an aerial actioner best remembered for a surprising death.
That's a bonk.
Is that Eric?
No, it's me.
That's Chris.
Executive decision.
It is executive decision.
Congratulations.
Chris,
my guess was going to be Mission Impossible,
which is not exactly.
Because when Emilio bites it in that movie,
it's always so shocking.
That's a surprise death for sure.
You're not going to make it.
You will.
Yeah.
Congrats, Chris.
I'm not going to make it,
but you will.
I will say the Emilio death is the one like I felt that in my bones when that
when he goes up into the fucking whatever those things are on the elevator
it is the most yeah it's it's a bad death for for poor old Emilio for a tiny little man like
that I never understood exactly why an elevator needed a bunch of spiky teeth but I think that
that's you know that that dirty fuck John Boyt played it up that way you know what I mean
oh wow you know he's he's so crooked he was like and then put spiky teeth on the elevator
kind of a thing which is wild because everyone else on the team or whatever just gets murdered
in that movie like you know shot and what blown up maybe like a car bomb i think christ and scott
thomas right is blown up but like she gets stabbed somebody gets stabbed okay but like
the fact that it's like all of these like kind of regular degular takeout kind of murders
and then fucking elevator assassin it's awesome
Well, it's because genre knows a showman, you know, he really wanted to show off for John Boy, get him in for like the rest of this. Yeah, we're going to do this boss. Let's do it. But that, that is a good adaptation of the 60s television show. The Avengers, uh, Jeremiah Chachick's vision was never seen. We should mention speaking of their on the VHS trailer game, they're celebrating their centennial. But Warner Brothers massive chop job on this movie. I think.
think for the best, honestly, because this movie's DOA. I mean, like, yes, is this, is this cut
incoherent? And would the, uh, you know, two hour cut, nearly two hour cut be better? Probably.
But like, nobody gives a shit. It's pretty clear nobody gives a shit. And the two leads have
zero chemistry. So you're D.OA. The original cut was like an hour and 55 minutes. You
wouldn't chop that unless you knew it was terrible. Hour 55 is not in.
insane it's not well but here's the thing right it's like terrible but like you can follow it all
yeah i would always prefer over this kind of terrible which is like you've excised so much from
this film already it doesn't make sense when you watch i i agree with that i even as bad as it is
if i could like get really if i could connect the dots that's better than this i'm like fall in and
there's no branches to grab on i mean
But we were still in that mindset of like, if it's shorter, it's better.
Like, yes.
And I prefer that mindset to now when it's like, well, we got to make it worth the money.
So it has to be, you know, 17 years long.
That's how each movie has to be exactly 17 years.
To clarify, like, when we say that, we mean like, you know, these shitty movies or
whatever movies, it's like they can be short.
But there's also great long movies.
And we're not against long movies.
I'm going to start this off because we keep on dancing.
around actually talking about this movie.
Go for it, buddy.
The opening...
Okay, we were not quite...
You're going to talk about the opening font?
The opening, okay, it's everything, really.
Because they can't decide on a theme.
Like, it's 17 different ideas
of what the background thing should be,
none of which really funnels
into what the movie is about.
Like, there's like this goofy fucking score
in the background because they replaced
the actual good score.
Are you talking about the opening titles?
Yes.
They are, it's fucking great.
It's probably one of the best parts of the movie because I could see like, you know, Sean Connery,
maybe you'll be into it like, oh, this is kind of trippy.
Look at this, there's just little shatterns going around and some drops of water.
I'm totally tripping balls right now.
Oh, my God, this map is going all squiggly, wiggly, and we haven't even gotten through the titles.
I mean, it almost looks like like a parody of.
the X-Men intro thing.
But, like, we're still years away from that, right?
Yeah, X-Men's 2000.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
They stole it from this.
Influential film.
But, yeah, it's a lot of, like, oh, tornadoes and stuff.
But it's like, it's this, you know, Pacific Sunware-esque font.
Like, this movie doesn't deserve it.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's, this movie is not gnarly in any way, shape, or form.
No, it's not gnarly.
It's not radical.
It's not tubular.
No one ever says Kawabunga.
like I don't get how these opening credits are like it's basically also the same font as you wouldn't steal a fucking police car would you like whatever that ad is you know what I mean like it's that shit and then you just get to this like dry as hell not funny not actiony movie at all there's nothing cool about this it's incredible your two leads are like you know their characters I guess are like part of the British aristocracy and they are just
toast they are just like white bread toast walking around this fucking
no emotion no humor and nothing
after that gnarly intro
I expected to see ray finds on a fucking skateboard
you see nitt ray finds he gets into this like training mission thing
where he's like super excellent at it and he's just like
he's not breaking a sweat and like neither of them break a sweat
the entire movie which is very like not bond
me like i know not everything needs to be bond but like what's exciting about like james bond
and those mission impossible movies you're like oh fuck is this guy gonna make it and you know he is
but like when they're like hmm quite wrong you know because that's that's that's the joke of
this yeah right is like look at how swiftly ray finds is like dispatching all of these people
you know and it's like also supposed to be funny because it's like the milkman like breaking the
two bottles and coming after him and all that shit and it's like
terribly
unfunny
so you're just
kind of
it is real
like looking
at your watch
shit
the whole joke
is oh
you wouldn't
you wouldn't
expect
that would you
oh
oh you
wouldn't expect
a garage worker
to come at you
with a knife
would you
this is like
it's the Kingsman
that franchise
that's what this is
basically
yeah
and like
the more anal
jokes
and like
oh god
I wish
oh god
if this
was just anal jokes that would actually make this pepper pepper this up a bit a little harder like 90s
anal jokes like the ones your mama don't want to hear quite with misty mrs peel your your rear end is
looking quite fetching hmm quite oh yes look at that go i'd like to peel that back oh did you
remember to put your plug in today mrs fabisham good lord
Better be the heart-shaped be jewelled one.
His name is Steed, but it should be spread.
Can I say this whole movie they're calling him Steed? Steed.
And I could have thought the whole time they were saying, Steve.
Yeah, nice.
John Steve.
That's an American action here is John Steve.
Absolutely.
That guy fucks, he fights, and then he fucks again, John Steve.
And he's got a shit.
credit score is definitely twice divorced and then he passes some nuns and you wouldn't expect
them to fight them would you oh really mr. Steve low 400s credit score it's a pretty bad credit
I expect you to be denied mr. Steve oh mr. Steve look at that you won't be getting that
loan after all. Because he's an American special agent, right? So, like, the company makes
him, like, put it all on his own credit card. We'll reimburse you later, Mr. Steve.
Yeah, exactly. And he's, uh, you know, he's in his, uh, late 30s. So he's, uh, he had to go to,
like, uh, spy college at that fucking bankrupted him, you know what I mean? The loans at
spy college, forget it. Oh, man. And so, yeah, and then we're also, uh, introduced here
to Jim Broadbent
as mother?
This is the one thing
I will say about this movie
and he's not good at it
but it just it can
solidifies the theory
that I would working on
that Jim Broadbent
is always like
two degrees better
than whatever movie he's in
and it's not
if it's a really shitty movie
he's pretty not good in it
but he's just a little bit better
than it if it's a great movie
like Topsy Turby
he's like he's really great in it
but he's even better
than the movie a little bit
he's always a little better
than the movie
that's absolutely true dude
because I'll tell you right
now you can look at previous episode do little and he's in that movie as like the he's like
the pseudo bad guy so-and-so that movie's rotten vomit but like he's just like his vomit smell
is just a little bit fresher if Jim Broadbred was it a snuff film you're like he was pretty
okay he was pretty good at that I love the way he laid that death blow I really believe he
killed that girl look just look at that you can't teach that kind of work with the whip you
just can't.
Oh yes,
machine indeed.
Dude,
Jim Broadbett
Snuff film
beside me, I'll watch it.
Oh, yeah, totally.
No bother.
I've killed it.
I'll sign up for Snuff Plus.
Bring in the white
barrels, if you will.
Thank God we
we have a drain on the floor.
Well, we found this boy who's a vagrant or better cut his throat.
Oh, there he goes.
Out it goes.
Oh, he's a squatter.
He could make like a British saw or something.
Oh, yes.
Oh, would you like to play a game?
I'd rather love a real rousing game right now.
What say you, young lass?
Mm, mm, mm, mm.
Call, like, broad game instead of like board game.
Oh, yes.
Would you like to play a broad game?
Then you definitely would know that your attacker is actor Jim Broadbotton.
Oopsie doodle.
Well, you'll be murdered anyway.
We have a scalper, we have a saw.
We have an electric saw, which would you like?
So he's kind of like this, he's sort of like.
he's sort of like
the M if we're just going to keep using other
British spy properties here
he's kind of like an M sort of guy
a little
more eccentric if you
will and he gives a ring
to the old prime minister to let him know
that the some sort of
weather shield that was around all
of the UK is like failing
or something like that
Jim Broadbent is if M was a shut-in
yes like he's got this old man
sweater like he didn't
get dressed up for work this is the same thing he's wore every day for 25 years and i don't think
he's watched it they just found him in it and you don't know a lot of soup stains and he's in a wheelchair
but you're not aware of it until like sort of the end of the movie when that becomes really
apparent you're like oh okay oh you know what i mean like that would be some he's like a chain
smoking like there's a character here but it's just not here i just thought he was lazy for
yes i really did yeah like it's like michael kane being in a movie now
I'm not getting up
Don't you dare ask me
I mean but it totally checks though
I wouldn't stand for this movie either
Apparently Michael Kane was in the running
In the running they say
Apparently I guess he lost the part
Of Sir August de Winter to Sean Conner
He made good with Kingsman
Oh what's the name of the character
Oh mother
Yeah fuck you
Yeah fuck you good boy
I was going to be the villain
In the Avengers movie
which would be $900,000,
which would just get me the vacation home
I want down in Greece.
So, oh, God, damn it!
Go to Connery, he gets a vacation home.
God damn it.
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't stand for this movie either, Andrew,
and the audience didn't sit for it.
That is also true.
I mean, it probably didn't make even,
I don't know how much they spent on this piece of shit,
but like $60 million.
60 million and it did globally
55 million dollars
So you know
They took a bath
Them fuckers in the UK may like that television show
But they didn't come out for this movie either
Apparently people in the UK were
Were
Try
No I'm trying to think of UK expressions
But I don't have any
They were very upset with the film
Because it gets Britishisms incorrect
There's one moment where we see
Steed Ray Fines's
car and it shoots out
tea and apparently
it comes with the milk already
mixed in which is a no
no oh shit
no no that's like
it's like giving you a beer in the U.S. there's too much
head on top I just feel like
the amount of tea that these
people are consuming and are talking
about it's like the writer just
got like what are British people eat like a little
whiteboard like all right definitely
they love their tea so every
five minutes. It's like, do you want tea? I'd like some tea. How about what tea? It's not even
that they like, okay, fine. They sit down for tea. It's a joke line. Yes. All the pants to tea
are all supposed to be laugh lines. Um, we also meet, of course, Um, Thurman is, uh, Dr. Emma Peel.
And she, we're told, is the chief of this Weather Shield program that is known as get ready for
it. Prospero.
Like that shit?
Yeah, that's right.
This Alex Jones here.
We've got new information that Prossibo company is funding a new type of harp, but it's in the U.K., so it makes it rain tea.
Catch them in bed with a steed.
Look at those Earl Grey clouds and the chem trails going through them.
And you know it's NW folks because they have milk in the tea.
That's right.
They got milk in the tea that's running down on them.
That's right, folks.
They're putting fluoride in that milk, and you know it.
Oh, ew.
Let's go to Paul Joseph's watching, a resident of the UK.
What do you think?
I haven't been outside of my house in months.
I imagine the tea tastes bed.
It looks bad outside.
There's a little girl playing with a balloon.
And her mother's coming together.
It looks bad, honestly.
They're eating garbage there, aren't they?
She's eating in the streets with their tea.
They're having tea and garbage.
That's how bad London has gotten with the multiculturalism.
So she gets word that Ray finds wants to see her at this social club.
And it's this big like all these old motherfuckers clutching their pearls because there's a woman in the room.
Yeah.
It lets you know that she doesn't take any shit because she's like, yeah, that's right, Mr.
Mr. It's the late 90s
and I've got girl power
but that's all I'll say. I'll just
say girl power and that's it. But not only
am I a girl, but I'm
an American. Uh-oh.
Right?
Huma's American, right?
Uma is American.
Everyone has characters not.
Yeah, I know that. But
funny, huh?
Finally we got someone crossing the pond
to do it.
I mean, I imagine
they had to take away the music
cue to these boots were made for
walking you imagine
oh dude i was going to suggest it was the spice girls
of some kind that also could have worked yeah
but also like you don't
really know what like
this is just like like fantasy
time right you don't know what time
exactly it's supposed to be right because
we've got well no because they're totally pulling
like a Batman the animated series thing because we got
computer technology all over the place
all the cars are fucking
way old though oh yeah
I guess i just i didn't even think about it
I just thought it was the late 90s and we were getting
retro with it. But I think you might be right that it's like sort of who knows what era
this is supposed to be. It's supposed to just look cool. That's like the whole idea. It's just
like doesn't it look hip everybody? Don't you want to watch this absolute fucking nonsense for
fucking two hours? I am tired of things look at hip. It's times for things to start looking
thigh. It's a little closer to the crotch. Is it? I guess so. The pelvis anyway. Probably
equidistant, I'd say. It's good
that there's nothing to talk about
with this movie and it's trash.
I'll tell you what's pretty great, though.
Ray finds nude in the
sauna. Well, that's the thing is they're both
really, you know, probably
at the height of their sexual powers
look-wise, and they've
got no chemistry, and it's a huge
problem. You know, like, he's
jacked out of his mind, just totally naked.
She's like, oh, quite.
And it's just, there's nothing between
them. How is that, how is that
even possible. Agreed.
You know? I think it's because they're really
going for this super dry
comedy tone that just doesn't work.
Right. And that's here too, because she has to
be like, oh yes, a dick, great.
You know what I'm? And like, and that's it. Meanwhile, like, the movie
is also trying to engineer this like
romantic relationship between the two characters, which the show
famously did not have. So that was another thing that fans of the show
got pissed off about is that
like the television show like danced around
that much like
the the actual
all or nothing days of X-Files
right? Before they just had them start
fucking like rabbits.
But so in this it's like they
are using this like really flat kind
of comedy style that's not working at all.
It's not, it's barely reading.
And then also like trying to make these two
like fall in love and it is
just it is a wrong
turn at every turn. The love thing
is insane. But like, I
was making a joke that most of the humor
is like, oh, you did expect that to
happen. But the other thing
is rhyming.
You're supposed to get a lot of jokes
or a lot of big laughs out of
lines like, I didn't like
pickles with brine, but the cucumber is fine.
And like, that is supposed to
be your big fucking guffaw.
That's a line in that movie? No, I'm
making that up. That's not. But like, just like
a line like that, like a stupid, like,
I like honey, just like bunnies, like shit like that.
That's how they used to talk back in the day, you know?
But like you're supposed to contrast it against something of modern age,
aren't, like, isn't that the interesting thing with those Starsky and Hutch?
Well, I mean, like, shit.
Well, that's the thing.
Yeah, that none of the humor is modern or pithy or clever or like, you know,
because the best of these movies, aside from Mission Impossible,
which almost transcends it is Charlie's Angels, right?
Where it was like so modern, it's almost not watchable by today.
standards but at the same time
it was a hit for a reason
like you know what I mean it hit the zeitgeist
it was clever and funny in a 90s
way yes and there's similar
moments from this movie to that movie
Eddie Isard is silent
as this kid this
would be killer and so is
Crisp Glover oh interesting
yeah
yeah I you know is this
I'm trying to think that because like Mod Squad is present
day I think Steve the
like it's uh well
because you're right the the starsky and hutch that was that was present day but they weren't for some
reason right i don't remember i never saw it i really because like well that was the brady bunch
movie was like they were all oddly stuck in the 70s but it was the 90s well margrewber did it well he
was kind of stuck in the past that's true with like his tape deck and you know everything else
just more a man like stuck in his ways i mean that brady bunch movie is very weird because they
like haven't like
aged out of the 70s and still
like kind of act like it is the 70s
I guess that's the joke
right it's at least like doing something
with it and then all of these other adaptations
you know like Mission Impossible
included in this like it just brings
the core idea of the story
into present day. Let's not forget
Austin Powers a year
prior to this a little over a year
prior to this and I feel like
that is kind of maybe
like that's why we're doing a British
spy political comedy but i also think it takes the air to the balloon because that does it so well
because it's like really funny you know what i mean like this movie is not it's like really really
funny and like there's it has a real point of view about this idea so what is the deal here there is
a there's security camera footage that jim broadbent shows them of supposedly uh uh dr peel
sabotaging her own weather device.
And so now famed comedy duo Steed and Peel
have to work together to clear her name
and figure out who was actually trying to sabotage
this Prospero project.
Which is weird because like, you know,
and then like mother,
a father shows up who is the great Fiona Shaw.
Hell yeah.
Who basically is like, oh, shouldn't we arrest her now?
It's like, no, we'll have her.
either lead us to the bad guy or she'll
clear her name. That's
that. Okay. Aren't you glad I
to him in this movie? Fiona Shaw? Yeah, why is she
wearing the sunglasses you wear like when you
go into like get a fake tan? Because apparently she's blind
which you wouldn't know. Yes, she's blind.
What? That's what? Yeah, she's blind. I didn't get that at all.
Oh, really? Not at all.
That's interesting. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, she's blind. I didn't pick
up on that either. Oh, so you
got, you just thought she was wearing cool sunglasses.
It was just like, okay, she looks
like, it looked like Edward Norton at the end of
the lead of battle angel.
She's kind of dressed like
Blofeld in this or something. It's, it's a weird
look. Yeah, yeah, she's got like a kind of a
weird hairdo also. Yeah. Like,
she just came from getting electrocuted
for some reason. Remind me the principal
in rock and roll high school forever.
If anyone knows, the Corey
Hey, uh, Corey Feldman movie. Pardon my
French.
Who is the principal in that movie? I don't really remember.
Oh, it's, it's
Mary. Oh, the Mary Warnoff character. I couldn't remember if she was the
principal or not. Yeah, I think so.
Right.
So then like, this is like exactly
this next
part here really exemplifies why it's
like this Warner Brothers Chop Job
makes this movie like nigh
unwatchable because they just go
from being like, all right, this is what you have to do, is figure out who's behind sabotaging the
weather project and framing you, I guess, Uma Thurman. And then it just cuts to, I don't know,
Ray finds office and there's sword fighting while having a conversation. They're at a tailor.
It's a tailor's shop or something like that. But I think it's supposed to be, I mean, again,
totally stolen by this fucking Kingsman shit. But like, I took this to be, like, I took this to be,
like they're sort of like a
queue headquarters in a way.
Okay. Yeah, I mean, that might, that would
work. That would certainly make sense.
Because there's all his like, there's like that rack of
umbrellas and I mean, also there's
sword fighting in the place and the tailor
is not blinking an eye,
which leads me to believe that this happens all the time.
But like, this is exactly my point is like
we have no answers to any of this
because there's so much just stripped out of this movie.
You can't follow it.
Which I do get. I do agree, but I think that the problem is
like where I'm okay almost okay with it just because like the set if those scenes were either
funny or exciting they would have been in the movie you know what I mean I think that that's
what they were trying to sift through and this is the most funny quote and exciting version of
this movie and yes it coherence paid the price I mean I just like but things though that like
it doesn't have to be funny or exciting I just need a scene of them either on a sidewalk or in a
car or something that's like
we have to go to this place and
we'll get you outfitted with whatever like
there's so much of this movie making a big deal
about like Ray finds getting
her this like customized pair of boots
and the whole time you're like
oh well is there like guns in them
or something is it like a gadget boot set
what are we talking about and it's
just nothing it's just a black pair of boots
and it doesn't matter like you know what I mean like yeah
there's just all of this shit that just doesn't make
sense but if you just had like that scene of like
yes we're going to go to this tailor shop
and when you get in, it's not like your average tailor shop, you know?
Yeah, it would help the narrative.
The only times they leave that shit in is when they're trying for comedy
where it's like, and the car is spitting tea.
How cheeky.
Let's have some teacups.
Like you literally, you could just put a static shot in between these shots and just
have Ray Fines be like, hell bother, we have to go to the Hiffington and Sons to get you a new pair
of guns.
I would love it.
Anything like that.
Yeah.
You remember those old shows?
you'd watch. It was almost like Bob Vila, but it was
really like it was a guy
like drawing and telling you a story
about the drawing he was making. And it was
that, but he would be, that's
how exposition worked in this movie is like.
What are you talking about? No, no,
not, yeah, Bob Ross I'm talking about.
Yeah. Great show. Second shot
of the vaccine. Really, really, I'm on top of my
game today. That's why we should mention, Steve, you
had your second shot today. I did this morning
and it's, it's really, I
I just, I feel like I'm turning into a
werewolf slowly. Maybe I am.
Spread it on.
I just don't. I'm just going to eat
raw meat. Like, you know, like, just that
thing. And you love it. Let's
encourage people to get vaccinated.
Oh, absolutely. Yes.
Has Jen chained up the door?
Yes. Just in case. Okay.
She put out the nightly fish heads in the bucket.
No, everybody should get vaccinated.
I feel great. It's a small
price to pay to get, uh, fucking,
do go to a goddamn movie again and see,
maybe the Avengers.
Yeah.
That would be a repertory screening, dude.
Let's do it.
That would be amazing if that's like the one thing
that Warner Brothers would let out of the vault
for like a big screening when everybody comes back.
The 98 Avengers, go see it.
You know what?
Sean Conner, you just lost the man.
Here you go.
No, can I tell you right now
when Sean went by-bye,
Warner Brothers, famous for doing this.
They will do it for actors,
directors they have no shame they'll do it down to like if a costume designer passes away i will get an
email that's like remembering sean connery and then all the movies from warner brothers that
sean connery is in and you bet your sweet ass there was an email that was like remembering
john connery the avengers on that list no doubt no way because i remember thinking like why would
you advertise that he's in this movie was zardos on that list i would go if if someone in you
New York City or anywhere. Screen's fucking Zardaws. I'm showing it. No, Zardaz wasn't on. I don't believe
Zardos was a Warner Brothers movie. Oh, fair enough. Well, he's, I mean, we could talk about our good
friends, Sir Sean Connery. Sure. August De Winter is his character's name, right? Yes. He's kind of
game for this movie, but this movie has no idea what to do with him. And like, which is kind of
not a travesty, but like he's as, you know, Sean Connery as she's willing to be. But like, it's
just there's nothing for him to do it's kind of shocking it's just the idea of like we're going to
cast bond as the bond villain isn't that funny and it's like can that carry the movie
dude you're totally right you are totally right eric and that is where the thought line stopped
was like what if james bond played a bond villain and then all of a sudden like somebody a producer
blacked out and when they woke up they were six weeks into shooting this movie by the way i love
how dumb this character is his entire family were fanatical meteorologists so they're all named
after months like all this siblings that we never see and only get we only hear of briefly like like
his sisters april may and june we hear and he's august supposedly there's a july guy running
around oh you got to watch that july guy dude he's hansy do you think i mean like where they're like
oh sir sir shan do you would you be interested if we got right
Roger Moore to play.
Fuck you.
Don't even finish that fucking sentence.
I am not breaking bread with Roger fucking Moore.
I'm Auguste Winter and he ain't playing July guy.
And as for that Pierce Brosnan, it's more like Pierce Bros.
No.
July chop.
July chop
But I mean
It's crazy though
Because yeah
You got Sean Connery for this movie
He is clearly game
And I'm sorry
You had like 40 years of movie history
To look back on to figure out
How you utilize Sean Connery in a movie
It's unacceptable in 1998
Well I mean
Give him some credit
So we meet the man
When he's like
He's in his big garden
and what you would want from your scene
from your first big scene from your big first villain
is somebody talking about
hybiscous and like different kinds of plants
not giving you any sense of like
what my my view of the world is or anything
oh no grangers are the best
they have good nitrons of bro oh have you
have you ever had have you ever kissed a hybiscish
how could a man with a garden be evil
well I'll tell you what the
that is not the it's not the first
introduction to him. The first you see of
Connerty in this movie is a big
laugh out line for me
or a moment rather. He's playing
that organ. He's
playing an organ in a tweed
suit and then like
someone help me out here with what this means
in this. I know that's what you're going to ask
and I don't have the answer. We tilt
up and there's just a portrait of Uma Thurman.
I have no idea.
I have I kept waiting for that to happen
like later on you find out this evil
Emma Peel is a clone
which is very unexplained
but that's at least explains where she comes from
but like is he obsessed with her
did she look like her his dead wife
something something he probably helped
get her cloned right
like so that because the clone is helping
him you know
all the shit the clone does
eventually helps his weather
program
which is also the program that she was working on
and he like hijacks it
it's pretty weird it's I guess she went to
work one day and like had a
sip a tea from a cup as one does, puts it down,
Sean Connery slips in, gets that cup and then clothes her.
Oh, thank you for the, thanks for the DNA shampoo.
Even that would be better.
This is the first time I'm taking a DNA sample instead of having to give one.
Oh, no, I actually haven't seen your brush with all the hairs in it.
I don't know where it went.
It just was right here, but I haven't seen it.
right so the actual the real emma peel infiltrates his like biodome or whatever and
what's funny she knocks out poly shorts stephen baldwin no but he's wearing that suit that like
plaid tweed suit or whatever it was and then suddenly he's wearing something different you know i feel
like that there's something else on the cutting room floor but then his introduction with this character
i mean i guess they've i guess he's cloned her before but he grabs her neck like grabs your throat
strangling her.
We go from a strangulation
and then two seconds later
he's kissing her hand
and I'm like,
this is just how Sean Connery greets women.
Dude, it's insane.
And then he's got,
there is,
I'm sorry,
Mr. Chairman.
I guess you never heard of improv.
Apologies.
I was taking it for a walk.
What was I going to say?
Oh,
no, there is a funny line here though
where he's showing her
that one flower and he's like,
oh yes look at this look at the sexy flower I mean yeah look at it and he like moves
around some like big like convex like magnifying glass thing so she can see the
actual flower and he's like why don't she touch it and she's like eh and he goes touch
it's dr. Peel yes don't you know that the entire ratio of protons to ions the
entire micromachine theory I invented it little cars that was my idea
also i didn't take it out for air and she's like
and again like the idea is it's supposed to be the part of this spy movie where
she's trying to like come on to him and pretend that she's not whatever
is like by the way that fucking dupe you're with is going
in my weather maze now or something it's like
you didn't touch the flower the least you could do is take off your shoes
and show me your feet
and remind you
there is something quite
ill-defined going on
our child
it is
and I mean like
what
and this is when
Ray finds is walking around
and like
the weather starts to attack him
and like again
because it's this movie
he's just like
hmm quite
and it's just
is it worried about it
or like
no why is it snowing
all of a sudden
not phased at all
like I feel
like the direction for every actor
in this movie was like no matter
what happens you have to remain
nonplussed throughout the entire
situation because that's
what this is it's like he there's like a
phone booth that's ringing
he goes to pick it up because it starts raining
you can't even hear anybody on the
other end I don't even know what that's supposed to be
it starts snowing and then like
snow's so fast that there's accumulation
enough that a dog sled can
run into this scene and again
he doesn't flinch once
and then it's fucking
Umma Thurman
who shoots him
nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
This guy doesn't blink.
And the joke is like,
oh,
I was wearing my bulletproof three-piece suit.
It's like,
okay, awesome.
This is where the transition,
like the problem of not knowing
where we're going between the scenes
really hit me
because he gets shot by the clone
Uma Thurman.
And then we cut to him in bed
with the real Uma Thurman,
but you would have just
thought it was the clone one.
Well, that's the thing is they're not, you don't know if, like, I guess they were trying
to play up, like, is she a double agent of some kind?
But then, like, literally, they do this whole scene where it becomes very apparent that
she's not the clone, like, she knows, like, who he is and is talking with him.
And then they cut to mother and father in a bus where another Ray finds who you think is
another clone is just sitting there and talking to them.
And, like, there's no explanation.
No, it's not, but it feels like it because it just switches from him being in a robe with Uma Thurman to in a full suit with mother and father.
It's so fucking confusing.
It's jarring and it's weird.
And also, like, why is he, like, she's Dr. Peel, right?
Like, she's, that's her title.
But he constantly calls her Mrs. Peel throughout this entire movie.
Yes.
Well, there's a dumb line about that, right?
Where he's like, you know, oh, do we really have to keep up these formalities?
I have to keep calling you Dr. Peel.
And she's like, no, that's totally fine.
You could call me Mrs. Peel.
Well, I think, like the first name is the mystery or something, even though we know it's Emma by the end of the movie.
Yeah.
I think the idea there was basically you got your, it's a thing wherein like she, I control F on the Wikipedia page for Emma Peel and she's not a doctor.
So I think this movie like upgraded her to being a doctor to like sort of give her more agency.
But then they were like, but then that's not.
what the character is known as so we have to do it kind of both ways kind of a thing well that's what
this is so weird about this right is because this movie i i guess in a way is like there was no
film franchise but this is like i guess how they decided to approach her origin story because like
she's not a spy in this movie it starts and she's like this weather scientist exactly like
can also fight like a spy you know i'm not saying i need training sequences here but like
she's literally introduced as a scientist
and she's doing like martial arts
fighting moves all of a sudden and I don't
like the movie is just like well and now she's a spy
it's as if in
inside the first Ghostbusters movie
Dana Barrett went from cellist to art restorationist
in the one film like that's how jarring
it just makes no sense
I mean you might as well have just had like the Matrix scene
where she just blinks her eyes
and it's like, I know Kung Fu
or I know any kind of fighting
like literally any martial art.
Yeah, she's just like, I guess I'm a spy now.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
We've talked with dance around it.
Like, you know, obviously Connery famously passed on Morpheus.
Worst movie, right?
If he's in it.
Yeah.
Definitely.
If anything, he should play the architect.
I know that was also an old white man with a beard,
but it would add a little gravitas.
Because like he's not more.
Like, Morpheus is.
cool and connery's not cool i'm wearing the fucking ribless sunglasses great well i mean i think
the other thing to consider is like the matrix very much functions as a uh um what is the word i'm
looking for here like the whole cast is the movie right it's ensemble there we go holy shit i got my
second vaccine weeks ago i got no excuse actually this fucking beer i'm drinking this anyway so
uh uh uh oh man what was i oh yeah ensemble i feel like if sean connery's in that movie it's a weird
distraction in the sense of like then you'd just be looking at sean connery the whole time for sure
and that's on a knock against larry fishburn he's fucking great in that movie in you know in all
those movies but like it just everybody kind of works more as a unit and it's not no one bit
of casting is like a distraction at that point so it is it is better could someone turn down that
blasted techno music.
Oh, watch this,
Neo. I'm jumping from one
Greyhound bus to another.
All right.
Now, one more time now, and then
I promise I'll stop asking, but again,
you're pronouncing it how?
Kianu?
Kiano.
There it is. I got it.
The band's called Prodigy as it.
Well, a prodigy didn't make it.
Jesus fucking Christ.
The other
The good thing about Lawrence Fishburn is
Lawrence Fishburn is still live.
He can still do a fight and I believe it.
Can you imagine the blocking that would have to happen?
Or just like the kind of cuts you would have to do
to fucking make it look like Sean Connery could fight anyone.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
The Matrix Gun is what I use.
No, that's exactly right.
It would be a completely different movie
because, of course, he wouldn't be doing fight scenes.
Absolutely not.
I feel like the Wachowski's part of the script.
just like, oh, you know, Sir Sean Connery,
we're huge fans, here's
here's this great script, here's some background on your character,
and here's a cool, this is how the wire work,
the what?
Well, you're going to get this wire rig, you see.
Like a wire bra, like on a lady, you're saying.
Okay, so I are hook the bra, continue.
This is, this movie sounding exciting.
This is getting good.
So the boy there, neon,
he has mind powers.
should have mind powers too, so that I can sit down for the whole film.
Yes, at the end of the movie, Neo goes, oh, no, you're the one, Morpheus.
And then the next movie is Morpheus's revenge.
I'm so excited to be making Morpheus's revenge.
If he bench one spoon, I should bend two, right?
I'm better than you.
I mean, it's kind of funny, because if you think about what the Morpheus character is to Neo,
right and think about last week's episode
it's kind of like him doing a Ramirez
all over again right
like here's how you be a Highlander
and here's how you be a
a Matrix person
here's how you be an Avenger
okay black widow shit down
I'll talk to you
now just let me listen
I know it doesn't sound right
but I can tell you Morpheus would be more
imposing if he was in bed the whole time
He was asleep the whole time
He'd be more imposing
He would really float over the whole series
Check this out
I got it all figured out for your plot
Okay, he's got a computer virus
You understand
He's sick with the computer virus
Computer virus got to his willy
So then
Now that I fixed your movie for you
You're welcome
Give me the money for the rig
And give me the money
A little bit of screenplay credit
And also a little one
walking around money
please.
Could you get
Kino over that
to feed me
some chicken soup
maybe.
Kino.
Oh, man.
Can I ask you guys
a quick question?
No.
Well, good night,
everybody.
No, seriously, though.
Because I've been
racking my brain
since watching
this movie this afternoon.
Why are these
guys all dressed up
like furries in this meeting?
there's a line of like connery saying like of course i know who you are but you can't know who each other
all so you have to dress up his fucking bears i mean the anonymity part i totally get and i think it's
pretty smart it's kind of funny because this is very much like a mirrorish scene to goldfinger
um in a in a way but so i totally get that but like why the furries why can't we just put a
fucking mask over these people's
faces. Well, I mean, I think the idea that
the A, that's supposed to be fun.
And B, I think... Oh! Yes.
I don't know. Wasn't there sort of a teddy bear craze
or in the late 90s that...
Beanie babies? Those amazing... Beanie babies?
Those amazing fruit commercials?
Remember those? Nope.
The fruit? What? Amazing fruit?
Amazing fruit was just like gummy bears,
but it was like kind of cooler for some reason.
No. And there were bear characters?
They call amazing fruit by da-da-da-da-da-da.
I think this was a local New York City commercial.
They didn't say it was illegal to sell that upstate.
Local New York gummy bears, ew.
Hey, we got fucking Bronx gummy bears over here.
We got all the flavors.
Yankees flavor.
This would taste like the five trains floor.
Your favorite flavors, glass, filth, subway.
You got a chicken color parmesan.
on gummy bears here.
Taxi cab fucking wheel.
I don't know.
Oh, here's my favorite fucking New York
gummy bear flavor.
It's a 100 center street hot dog flavor.
You too can taste what it's like
when the character is on Law & Order eat lunch.
Yeah, you also got an Italian-American
racism against Irish-American gummy bear.
Oh, I'd get that.
Definitely.
Oh, the tight seats at the film forum flavor gumma bears.
Something for the downtown crowd.
I like it.
We're expanding.
No one's heard of Amazing Fruit.
I hope someone on their podcast commute is yelling about Amazing Fruit right now.
No.
Let me just, you know, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to look up, see if I can recognize the logo here.
I got it.
It's coming to you right now.
You drop it in this little virtual chat route.
I just dropped it in the, there you go.
Oh, so I will say, Steve, yes, I do recognize not so much the little bears funny enough,
but just the Amazing Fruit font.
But I can't confirm that I've actually ever had one.
I used to love Amazing Fruit, dude.
It was way into it.
Ooh, Tropical Amazing Fruit.
at that. I mean, it is, I'll say, having them in bear suits like that, very easy way to get
like your PAs to play like your henchmen in this. Absolutely. Yeah, you're not kidding,
Kevin. That's a good thought. That's, you know, show, yeah, I'll be the bear, but I'm not going to
wear the costume. I'll do the voice over. Yep, from my bathroom again. We do see him take
off the bear head and he's like the big black bear at the head of this table. And God, it's a
basing to see him do this it is and he really sucks you know what it reminded me of which is i think
equally pathetic is when at the start of u.s marshals when tommy lee jones has to be dressed up like
that chicken yeah they like they give chase and so much of the chase is him without the chicken head
but the suit is still on just debased debased but and the thing is like you know the point of the
scene is like he's like okay whoever wants to leave could leave and then he like throws darts and
kills these guys. So it's kind of like an untouchables
reference to a little bit. Oh, yeah.
It's also a little bit like what he does
to that one guy in Goldfinger,
not what he does, but what Goldfinger
does to the guy where it's like, oh yes, you
may leave right now, just get in the car
and our job will take you to the airport.
And then he's also murdered.
That's also true. It's weird
like Eddie Isard's like
the hench person here
and she's like, she doesn't say a word
so like, why are you hiring Eddie Isard
to not be funny?
is my question.
The amazing thing about any
Eddie Isard performance that's rad
is when she gets to just
run her mouth, which she's always been great at.
And it's fucking hilarious.
And like, there's one
line at the end of it.
And literally that
fucking joke of like a silent character's
last words being profanity has been done to death.
I'll be honest, she made out great on this one.
She didn't have to say a word in this piece of shit
movie gets to say fuck at the end of it
and that's it and your paycheck
for the fucking year. Thank you very much.
There was definitely something going on where
we wanted to see silent
scary types. Yes.
Right. Yeah, it's weird.
And I'm trying to think too. So like this was
98 and
Izard like must have been at the height of her powers
right here right? Because like wasn't dressed to kill
kind of around the late 90s? Yeah, dressed to kill
late 90s. Velvet gold mines around
here. Yeah. I mean like
Oh, I did not know
Eddie Azard was in Velvet Gold Mine.
Yeah, she's a pretty big character.
Still, still I've never seen it.
Oh, it's good. Good one.
A really good movie.
But the thing is, if
you're doing a silent bruiser character,
get a WWF guy,
you know what I mean?
I don't know. Get Razor Ramon in there
or something.
Razor Ramon. We had to fire
Razor Ramon today from the Avengers
movie. Oh, why is that? Oh,
definitely too many racist comments.
Rayza Ramon
tried to do a British accent
and he killed half of our crew
I don't know how
they just heard it and died
I feel like when you
when you inject a wrestler into something
I'm just like okay I'm watching
I'm now I'm really watching a dumb movie
like this is so unbelievable
because it's like
what do people just go to the gym
all the time that's science fiction
well
so this is interesting though Eric
right like so
What is a better movie?
This or, um, what's that Hulk Hogan movie we did a really long time ago?
Oh, boy.
No holds barred.
Yeah.
Oh, I will no holds barred.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
There are definitely better movies featuring wrestlers, but it's, I just, I just feel like, I don't know.
I get what you said.
Well, again, it's kind of like what I was talking about with Sean Connery being in the
matrix.
whenever a wrestler appears on screen you're kind of distracted at least for a few minutes because you're like well that's a wrestler regardless of whether or not you know them right but I was actually just this happened to me oh this is all right perfect timing right because of our um the highlander episode that we did I've been on this Lambert kick going through all these Christopher Lambert movies and one of the things I decided to do was go back and fix the final Lambert related Highlander blind spot that I had and I watched that Highlander
Endgame.
Yeah, trash, right?
Total trash.
Absolutely total trash.
But in that movie, in one, I think it's a flashback scene, all of a sudden, a professional
wrestler from the attitude era, Edge is just in that movie.
And like, it's one scene, it's maybe maximum, like, two or three shots that he's
in the movie, but it's enough that I was like, oh, fucking Edge is in this movie.
And it was like, I mean, Highlander End game is terrible, but it was like distracting me from
Highlander Endgame.
I was still a little aggravated at edge because of it.
I could definitely see that.
I will say the problem for me is that Eddie Isard, she shows up.
I'm like, oh, let's get going.
Yeah.
She's not in it for another what?
Like, she's like barely.
Of course, she doesn't say anything, but she's barely in it for another 30 minutes.
Whereas like even Crispin Glover, like the whole point of him in that Charlie's Angels movie is that he has the figure to do the fight scenes.
Like he can do all that shit.
He's very physical in that movie.
Yeah.
He's also in the movie way more.
than Eddie Isard is in this movie.
He's also thin and maybe he's toned
in shit but like he's not a fucking
like giant
wrestler Kristen Glover
you know like he's no totally
and he's physically intimidating in that movie and
Eddie Isard is it allowed to be physically
intimidating and I don't know if she would be back then
anyway like you know what I mean it's just like sort of
Eddie Isard hi I'm funny
you know they're casted
they probably they shot this in in the UK
probably right and that's just who was around
or it could have been but that's what I was asking about dress to kill because then
that's like yeah if the timeline matches up that's a little bit of stunt
casting in that way because that thing was fucking massive that special was
massive on HBO 99 actually so pro no pre-aged oh wow yeah and yes they
filmed this entirely in the UK so there you go um so they find out there's a
company that's making like boutique personal
meteorology, and I cannot
stress this enough folks at home
or something.
Yeah. Yeah, like you could buy your own
weather for something and like
which also kind of gives up the game
because it's like, oh my God, who is manipulating the
weather satellite? Like, oh, this company is
advertising manipulating weather.
I guess it's the same thing.
Yep. Yeah. This is
really where like if you're
going to, if you're building something where
this is a world where you can
control the weather i need some world building yeah there's nothing like this is a completely
fantastical society they built here and they give you nothing see that's the thing is i need a tour
of the facility with the computers that do manipulate the weather not his personal biodome yes yeah
exactly yeah and i and you need some sort of like well why are they doing this is it like a global
warming situation are we in some sort of kind of near future thing where there's way more ozone
problems or something like and again like i don't care what it is just like any of those things
would be you just you can just make sean connery someone who was like i invented this to be you know
like i'm sympathetic to the plight of like why should a drought destroy a farmer's crop or something
and then he's and then he you know he saves that those people and then it gets to his head and he
gets the god complex and now he's controlling the weather for the whole planet yeah i mean i've
never seen like i mean god complex like great ref only because like yeah think about like the the
gravity of this device right and like the nonchalance with which all of this is addressed is just
insane to me you know what i mean and there's never really a moment where it's like all right you don't
believe me eh well watch what i'm gonna do to italy you know and then like he does a hang scorpio
and fucking destroys something with a tornado or whatever then it would be a bond movie not a hip
90s comedy oh got it and by the way the machine we get around this time we get to see the machine
that's doing all this it looks like an artisanal bong like it's got like a big bubble at like it's a big
sphere and then there's like a pipe sticking out of it essentially.
Well, yeah, look at this.
The sick fucking bubbler I made, eh?
Look at it.
I call it a storm chaser.
Oh, dude, a couple of hits off the storm chaser, and you're not getting off the coach?
Take a couple of rips from the storm chaser, and you're going right into the sox zone.
I'm some of my thunder cloud push.
Hold on, let me take a rip from the storm chaser.
Holy shit, I want to do the Matrix now.
Oh, my God, get me that Wachowski's on the food.
No, no, no, I took a hit from my storm chaser,
and I understand the script perfectly now.
Oh, yeah, it makes complete sense now.
I ran through it.
This is brilliant.
Wait a minute.
You two are going to be stars.
Now that I'm looking at it is wearing off again,
get me the storm chaser.
Oh, my goodness.
They're all making sense.
Ramirez, Jardos, it's all complete.
And together, the storm chaser really cleared up the cobwebs in me, doggin.
Heed, next time we do the storm chaser, put vodka in the bottom.
Oh, man, no way.
Never have.
Never, is that something people do?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, really, Chris, is that what you're up to these days?
Oh, yes, every day, Eric.
Have you ever done that camp?
Oh, yeah, back in my younger days.
You wake and bake to that now?
Yes, every day, error.
I haven't had a bong rip in about, I don't know, like, God,
an honest to goodness, B-O-N-G bong in like five years.
I feel like if I did it, I would turn into Linda Hamilton's skeleton in Terminator 2,
like shattering it in that fence.
I'm like almost the daily user.
I'm, you know, I'm a daily user at this point,
but I couldn't imagine.
I think it was probably like 10 years ago the last time I hit a bong.
Can I tell you guys something?
Did you buy a bond?
I'm literally looking at it right now.
How's that working out?
It's fucking great.
Because fucking Gabris bought this one and he was tweeting about it.
And it was a thing where like the proceeds were going to a good cause for like, you know, cannabis conviction, justice and whatnot.
And so I was like right on, Gabris.
And I fucking bought it and dude purchase of the year.
Oh.
All right.
I have to say it's it's a good time.
might use it right after this recording these days if I ever did the fucking vodka at the bottom of the thing I think I would actually look like Hamilton when she's having the fantasy about what happens at Terminator 2 and she's holding onto the fence oh yeah dude exactly just fucking incinerated that's what my that's what my coughs would be like well this one's got a little catch-all for like ice cubes to put in the neck so it like cools the whole thing down it's a real smooth rip I have to say
maybe when we can do an in-studio record again
after we finish the episode
we'll do some killer bomb rips
yeah and by the way it's legal
you bobby's listening
so leave us the fuck alone
not enough bobby's in this movie
right that's nary a bobby
oh oh they're coming after me
I'm going to use my weather balloon on these
fucking bobbies
you're gonna get me out to the United Kingdom
for tax related reasons
you know I usually Manhattan
boobies, not bobbies, but for you, I'll make an exception.
But, you know, blah, blah, blah, the movie continues.
Uma Thurman, I think, deserves a little bit of a better career that she has right now.
I think she deserves, like, she's close, like, I just want to see her win an Oscar before we all,
like, in this next couple of years, because she's awesome in that nymphomaniac scene.
That one nymphomaniac scene is like, holy shit, this lady is insane.
Has anyone seen The War with Grandpa?
How is she in the War with Grandpa?
This is what I'm talking about, Eric.
Thank you.
Come on, Cabin.
I know you saw it.
I haven't seen it.
Are you kidding me?
Really?
Oh, I thought you did it for show research.
No, no, no, no.
I thought you watched everything.
I do not watch everything.
I just said, I haven't seen the Mod Squad.
Yeah, no, but I do think Uma Thurman is great and hasn't fully had her do, obviously,
you know, Kill Bill is great.
And Kat, Gattaca.
there, which is insane.
It should have been that.
I mean,
I mean,
Niffamaniac Part 1 is it like a movie
that would be nominated for Oscars,
but she should have been nominated
for Best Supporting in that
because it's such a crazy and amazing scene that she has.
She's also good in The Adventures of Baron Moonshoushousin.
Yes.
I mean,
she's,
never saw.
She's been good for so long.
I feel like she needs like,
like I don't want it to be peppermint because Jesus Christ,
but like a taken like movie that's less racist would be
fantastic. Well, because
like she, I mean, it's like
there's no question about the two
things. She can be in movies
where she fucking kicks total
ass and also she can be in
movies that she's just totally
carrying. Yes. You know what I mean? Like
those kill boom, those kill boom movies I think
are great, but like she is
those movies. Without Uma Thurman, those
movies are definitely not as good. Oh, for sure.
Definitely. Nothing. Nothing is there
in Pulp Fiction as well. She's like
that movie is iconic for
reason and she's pretty much the reason you know what i mean like or one of the big reasons it's
like those scenes that she has are those that's the iconography of the film and it's like holy shit
you know um oh and she also uh you know for the short time that she's in the movie man uh her
role in uh the house that jack built oh also also memorable dude that movie is quite something
it is yeah um but like yeah i'm just like looking at what all she's been in like in the last few years
like what does anybody know the existence of this movie the con is on oh no i hope not it's her
tim roth stephen fry's slumming it in this movie god i was maggie q i looked at the poster
and this is a fake movie this is this movie is trying to catfish you like i would not give this
there's so much photoshop on this cover i would not like put my uh credit card information
to rent this movie. I just I wouldn't know.
Yeah, don't accept that message if the con is on
2018 messages you
on Facebook.
Nobody's in this. Look at this poster.
This is not her. It's one of those things where it's like
it's her head on somebody else's
body, but maybe the legs aren't even that
person's legs kind of thing. Dude.
Oh, and this is the biggest bit of bullshit
of the whole thing. So in this, I'm
looking at this poster. Okay.
And, you know, if you're looking at
the names left to right, umma,
on the poster Tim Roth on the poster Alice Eve on the poster Sophia Vergara on the poster
Maggie Q nowhere to be found on the poster I will Tim Roth on this poster he looks like I don't
know a jack or jack a jack a lantern that you left out for two months what is this fake this weird
sag face and that is not his body I mean he's like Chris Hebbler's body I mean come on
aren't you excited by the idea of an airport con movie yeah that's now
I'll tell you, man, the most presumptuous tagline of all time.
And it won't be their last. Hey, you want to put money on that?
Let me, since we're talking about it so much, let me read the little log line here in an effort.
Holy shit. Crispin Glovers in it too. Sorry. Oh, and Parker Posey.
In an effort to avoid paying off a massive gambling debt to a notorious mobster in England.
Another one of these movies. A couple three to Los Angeles and hatch a jewel theft plot.
that's exciting actually
maybe the con is on as a pretty good movie
I'm gonna guess
oh did you think this is one of the best movies ever made you think
it could be
it's exactly one minute longer than this movie
I mean the train went off the tracks
I think around my super ex-girlfriend
yeah
that was a tough one I remember I was in the booth
for that back in the day
she did that like it was like a couple
real bad ones in a row the producers remake
that fucking get shorty sequel be cool
who saw that in the theater but you can understand why she would have signed on to this project those all paid huge but then like well not just that but like oh they're making another get shorty that is like a huge yeah cool movie maybe yeah i mean you're you're totally you know your total eric is totally right about that because i remember when be cool was announced it was like fuck yeah a continuation of the get shorty world absolutely like and then it turned out to be terrible but at the time but who do you think was saying oh yeah be cool a continuation
10 years after the fact of the Kid Shorty universe.
Tons of people that we worked with at the multiplex at the time that that movie came out.
And it came out in the mid-aughts.
So I feel like you were like ready to, you were ready to like say, okay, it's been 10 years, but maybe this one would work.
But also like 2005, the Rock was in that movie.
Vince Vaughn, huge at the time.
Cedric the Entertainer, Andre 3,000.
Like, I totally get why there was hype for that movie.
You tend that to be bad, but...
But that's like, all those.
Like, if you have a sequel of that size, of course, it's going to have some hype.
But like, that doesn't matter.
But after that, like, it's like Sundance Lifetime movies.
Like, the life, the life before her eyes, the accidental husband, motherhood.
I mean, it's just like...
Is it proof around here, by the way, I think around the house,
I've been called the accidental husband.
Oh, she
was in Burnt with
Bradley Cooper. I did not know that.
It's just like, I mean, she was on
my favorite television show of all the time.
The Slap.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, she like plays like
one of the people that watches that kid get hit
at a party. So there you go.
I mean, really, you have to imagine
how, like, how bleak
it must be when the only guy you can really count on
to give you a good role is Lars Von
fucking Treyer.
Yep. Yep.
Yep. I always get these movies mixed up.
She's not in proof. She's in prime, FYI.
That's the math movie that she's in.
Oh, a math movie. You don't say.
Well, that's exciting.
That's odd.
It's just one of those things, man.
She's really great and she just can't, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't know why she's not like.
She should be.
what is this motherhood movie now again i'm sorry i don't want this to turn into the gang reads i mdb
like we're talking dude i would rather read i mdb than think about this movie i agree jesus
this movie motherhood so terrible umma thurman anthony edwards mini driver i think uh oh who's this
old lady she's definitely dead yeah jody foster involved with that in some way
she's like a producer or something oh that might be let's because she makes a cameo i've i've seen
motherhood. Oh, good for you. Christine Vashon is a producer on it, but not now. Oh, she's also in
movie 43, which I believe the way that movie was cast was they told everybody that they
won a boat and they came. And all these actors, like, oh, shit, I want a boat. That's exciting. I didn't
know that. And they show up like, oh, actually, just sign this for your boat. It's like,
oh, now you've got to be in movie 43. Sorry. By the way, Chris, Jody Foster plays Jody Foster in the movie.
And that's it.
No producer credit.
I think your points for the VHS trailer game.
No forfeit.
Oh, okay.
Oh, hey, you know who's also in Motherhood with Uma Thurman?
Alice Drummond.
You guys all know Alice Drummond.
She was the librarian at the beginning of Ghostbusters.
Oh, of course.
Let me ask you this.
Are you menstruating?
I mean, so the B part happens.
We can talk about that.
That's like sort of exciting.
Like, that's, they sold this movie on this.
B part and it's like three seconds and I kind of don't even understand what they're doing because
it's not even weather related it's not weather related it's kind of a bit of bullshit we get
Eddie isard controlling the the B swarm and it's chasing their car and it they shoot missiles
and bullets it's kind of confusing of how does operate one like just pick one yeah exactly
pick one but this is the most exciting set piece of the movie we do get some cars turning
on weird angles and like trying to stay on the road and that's pretty exciting little explosions
around it we get it i think there were more interesting car chases in downton abbey you're absolutely
right but this is the best we got today on the show and it goes they go through a forest of one of the
one of the bees or wasps or whatever these fucking robot things are fly into the back uh of the
car uh ray finds like disables one and uses its gun against the others pretty exciting kind of not really
it's a cool move that in like literally any other movie you'd be like that was awesome exactly but in this it's just like all right just keep going the sooner you get that gun out of that bee's gut the sooner i can get to the closing credit i was checking my watch throughout the entire film oh yeah and even this like a scene like this even this like the editing is so jarring like when he's like gutting the fucking brobo bee to fucking get its gun like it's like a shaky cam like you can't even tell what's got he's just throwing shit
shit in the air like it's just i i just like there's no way to latch on to anything even in
these big action scenes the one action scene this is the one this is this and the end of the two
big ones because the next thing that happens is like umma thurman gets kidnapped by sean connery
and he drugs her and it's like we're trying to be psychedelic for a little while okay are we
we're not psychedelic but like trippy because she keeps like trying to escape but she's in the same
room kind of a thing yes yes all of this m c escher yeah
You know what it reminded you
was the film series Cube?
Yeah, oh dude, I watched Cube 2 HyperCube once.
That was something.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, I, that was like...
I never watched any of them, by the way.
One of the highest moments of my life was watching Cube 2, HyperCube.
I got to say, Eric, you know what?
At least give that first Cube movie shot.
All right.
Yeah.
I'll shoot your cube.
Yeah, I got the script for Cube.
I said, no, thanks.
I better be playing.
understand it. Oh, wait a minute.
Hang on a second.
Oh, thank you, Storm Chaser.
Now I understood the film, Cube.
Thanks to my agent Storm Chaser.
I'll now be appearing in Cube 3.
I think there is some sort of prequel called
like Cube Zero or something like that. I never checked it out.
A lot of Cube movies.
Also, the other thing, man, it's always a sin in
really horrendous movies like this when they have sequences
that really make you think about awesome sequences for other movies
and this whole like chase through the woods with these cars
and the bees and whatnot definitely just reminded me of Return of the Jedi
yeah yeah the whole like forest chase on Endor
and everything with the speeders and I was like
I wonder what Luke Skywalker and all the buddies are up to
I think that every second of my life
yeah um they run a foul of uh that old lady with the machine gun from the beginning of the movie and
like it turns out she's an agent with them or whatever and she kind of brings them to i guess it's
sean connery's house or something yeah wonderful i know it's terrible but i'll tell you what
you get the little the gag in here that i was laughing about too when they get on the property there's
a little peacock and i was like eh yeah not bad
I guess because he's a
you can control all the weather
so why not?
And then, you know,
like you want in a movie like this,
you know,
people all over the world
join hands,
enter the love maze,
love maze.
Dude,
I never heard that expression.
It's just like a big old hedge maze
that they get into.
And they're like,
oh, look at this.
A love maze.
I was like,
is that a over there term
for hedge mazes or what?
Is there like,
Danny?
Danny,
get in the love maze,
Danny.
I'm coming for you, Daddy Boy,
if I'm loving the maids.
Don't you know that I love you?
Now come over here and let me chop your fucking head off.
Yeah, love is cold.
I can't understand why people like that shining movie
that Jack Nicholson character is just so unlikable.
It would have been problematic.
It would be funny if they did have like a heart
in the middle of the hedge maze.
like the middle area where you like finally meet everybody is actually a heart that would make more sense
uh Nicole Kidman was uh approached to play Emma Peel she almost took it but she was actually
still making eyes wide shut so it's like ah don't want to be one of the worst movies ever or
a really great book ah fuck what I want to do uh uh well I'll do it talent permitting okay
talent needed me so no um so like um yeah umma like falls through the ground or something right
here. Like in the hedge maze.
This, around
here, I don't remember what the situation is,
but it's Sean Connery, this I believe
was a trailer line where he like
I think he gets up in
Ray finds his face and he's like,
rain or shine, all is my.
Oh, dude.
Woof. Yeah.
That was, I think, part of his big, like, speech
to the, it's not the UN, but it seems
like it, right? It's sort of
He does make a similar speech to a
Yeah, it's not the UN because we're in England.
It's just like a meeting of world leaders that's in some building for some reason.
I would have at least liked to see the scenes of him in the mirror beforehand.
Well, uh, hmm.
Well, if it's, ah, it's gonna snow and it's gonna blow.
God damn it, that's not good.
You're gonna be the wave of the future.
Wave of the future.
Wave of the future.
You're a fucking star.
You're a fucking star.
Take out my big fucking Willie.
Yeah, you're a star.
My big rubber cock.
He's dressed in like the full like, I guess, Scottish regalia.
And this, like this scene, I mean, that him talking to these world leaders, that was like the trailer.
Like, and it was like there was hype for this movie based on this scene.
And it's one of the better scenes of the movie.
Not that it's good.
Because it's the most that he, no, it's not good.
But it's like, it's the most.
that Sean Connery gets all his
like puffy chested Sean Conneryness out into the film
it's the only time he's like actually used correctly basically
exactly because the rest of the movie doesn't know
what to do with him and he's not going to tell you what to do
with him he doesn't know and that's I was I remember the trailer
and I was like oh this is the Sean Connery
Kilt movie right and like he's barely wearing that
tilt come on yeah it's also one of the few scenes
where you fucking understand what he's talking about
and what's going on
Put that killed on.
Put that killed on.
There is
because there's
like there's so many moments
in this movie,
not just ouma Thurman's character
because it happens to Ray Fines also,
but like between the two of them,
they are getting knocked on conscious
and waking up in other places
so many times
that I can't tell which time is which,
but there's one time where she gets knocked out again.
She wakes up like back at Ray finds his place
and he's like,
like, oh, those boots that I ordered
for you came in. And dude, I think
special guest director, Quentin Tarantino
right here. She was like, you
got to go to my man QT for this fucking
foot scene with these boots, baby. There was
one moment where she escapes Sean Connery's
marble palace by
jumping through a mirror
that is a window that was painted
over. Yes, that's what it
is. When she escapes the, like, the
cube house, she jumps
through a window. And Ray finds it's just
like standing outside, like,
the glass break like oh how fortunate there she is and yes that's how they then wind up
back at his house with this boot scene but like again yeah it's it's so hard to follow sorry no we just
also get like like ray finds visits the invisible man and it's like i understand how exciting that would
be but uh this is something that could have been on the cutting room floor and maybe we put in
more plotty stuff well then you'd have to find somewhere else for this voice actor here because
this is Patrick McNee
the fucking OG John Steed
from the show. Oh, and some old
septuagenarian was jerked off
in the theater when he saw him, I guess.
Absolutely. There he is. There's
the one. Where's
my willy pill?
I can't hear,
but I read about it. Good
for you. Oh, I'm
dead. And this
invisible man, you know, he
works in like the archives of
I think the organization is just called the
ministry is that right just the ministry yeah making me think about professional wrestling again
or ministry great band oh sure yeah some of their early work i would be more into yeah
don't know that i've ever heard a song by ministry they're good check out their early work i think
with sympathy is worth a spin all right um but yeah so he like works in these archives and this
is like ray find's kind of going to do some research and it's kind of one of the only
moments in the movie we get any sort of helpful exposition
but it's like too little too late really
but it's like there were
some cloning experiments
that happened and Sir August
was a part of those
and so like that closes
the book on fucking cloning in this movie
like it doesn't really go
you know any farther than that
there is though oh man I kind of like
because this is where it's like oh yes
Sir August very much used to be
in with the ministry there is a hilarious
bad Photoshop photo of Connery and Fiona Shaw. Did you catch that really quickly like in these
archives? It looks so bad. It's just not. Just take a picture of them together. I know like get him for
another day or like have them have lunch and be like take the picture out you know like secretly if that's the
case. Yep exactly because like in that Photoshop they're not made to look any younger so it's totally
irrelevant. Take a picture of them eating lunch. You're absolutely right. They look like jib jabs. They like they cut off
the heads from promotional pictures
and put them on like a Pfizer
promo image. Like, oh yes,
you can use a picture of me
in a promo photo from my great film
Medicine Man.
Better movie than this.
Absolutely. Much better.
It would be funny if he had one with very
long hair like that. That would be amazing.
I would love that. All my
porny tail days. I was a hippie
back in the day. Sorry.
Oh, you know, of course, I discovered the
cure for cancer. Now, where did I put
That is one cocktail napkin
That character should have held on to
But yeah
And then so like this is this is where Connery is also at the same time making that speech
And this is like
Man like the the production design in this movie isn't terrible
But there are some bad decisions like here
There's like Jim Broadbent as this mother character
Watching Sean Connery on a bunch of like monitors that are all
the exact same thing but it kind of just looks like Jim Broadbent is watching
Sean Connery Daley's like yes it just is so totally bizarre and then you think
like well just from like what you're looking at where are the cameras in this room
why are all these monitors of different sizes for some reason it's like he's in like an
old TV repair shop or something and there's just all these monitors around I don't
get it it's like a Terry Gilliam image like it's like you stacked them
up on each other of different sizes
like that it doesn't make like this it's not
a dilapidated society it's you're
just the ministry
dude but he does have a funny
line here though uh I don't remember
what this is in response to
but Connery just yells oh
do shut up
which is great
uh so he gives these guys
this is really the only kind of like timetable
you have in the movie because he's like
okay here's my James Bond villain
plan I am going to sell
you the weather. So do with that what you will. But I'm going to give you till midnight tonight to make
this decision. And like, I don't even know what this is supposed to be, but all of a sudden
there's just a globe in the room that Sean Connery bats like a huge beach ball or something and
it like goes right to the camera. He also terrible. He has, he has a collection of them. He's a big
collector of snow gloves. Yeah, on his on. Yeah, he does. No, no, no, but like a globe, not a slow
snow globe the actual globe yes yes yeah he bats it you know his staff also has the globe on it so
there's there's been a bit of globing with him but when he when he hits it and it goes towards
the camera and he's like saying like and you have until midnight or whatever to like pay him
or whatever and then when it hits the camera you hear him go tonight just sure you know that's midnight
All right, I'll do the ADR, but it'll cost you 40 bucks.
All right.
I guess it's unclear.
Tonight.
It's framed like people are like, well, does he mean midnight tonight?
Or did you mean midnight a few days from now?
Oh, my God, was it midnight this morning?
Oh, my God.
No, no, tonight.
Tonight.
Now give me my $40 so I can buy me a steak.
yeah man oh so she
she fucking goes unconscious again somehow
and umma thurman wakes up in a big old hot air balloon
that's a thing
and that's a thing and this is like this is like where
two of the villains of this film are dispatched
straight to hell and you can't even tell that one of them died
but first mother wakes mother realizes
the plot and we get like mother and father
you know, Fiona Shaw fighting
a little bit and it's just
full of atrocious fucking dialogue
like oh well mother knows best
and then like when
father best's mother
it's not really Mother's Day now
is it or
yeah a lot of that
but I do love
what Jim Broadbett is bested by
Fiona Shaw he just kind of sits on
his back and he's just kind of smoking the rest
of the movie
no this is what I deserve
to die out here on the street
leave me alone
so we got that may freeze to death like a dickens character thank you so andrew you were talking about
the hot air balloon and now at this point like it's snowing throughout london and and and and we even
see some tornadoes just hanging out in the rivers or lakes or oceans that are nearby I don't know
what you guys are doing uh yeah it's it's really dumb there's like tornadoes across the thames
and whatnot and so it's umathurman the clone of emma peel and
father, Fiona Shaw, like in this hot air balloon,
Emma Peel escapes. And so
the clone drives the hot air balloon like into
a big sign for that niche weather
company. And the thing explodes. And I'm like,
oh yeah. So I guess Fiona Shaw was also on that balloon. So she's
dead too. Like they just don't, the movie never really
acknowledges correctly that she dies. If you have a fucking clone,
that is the evil version of someone,
I need more time with that clone.
I need to understand any of that motivation.
And much like Eddie Izard's character,
it doesn't speak throughout the entire movie.
Yeah.
And like, you don't, like,
yeah, maybe a cool fight.
There's sort of a fight,
but like all the fights are really,
really bad in this movie.
Yes.
And so like, you know,
Umma Thurman versus Uma Thurman,
that's kind of cool, right?
And the clone motivation could be like,
if I kill you,
I can actually live your life.
life. Otherwise, I'm like in this nether space. Exactly. But because that clone doesn't talk,
you don't know anything about what it's taking. It's honestly aggravating. I was wondering
during the start for like the first 30 or 40 minutes, you don't know it's a clone. And I was
like, is Sean Connery turning into? Is it like magic clamor? What's going on here?
I just go into my phone booth and turn into Ouma Tharman. How disturbing is that? He just does the
Mission Impossible face.
Oh, yeah, dude.
We're ripping off masks just like that movie.
And suddenly when I ripped this off, I gained 30, 50, 100 pounds.
And I'm shorter for some reason.
You're going for a close-up on that one, I think.
That's how you get that one.
Yeah, I guess that one wouldn't work.
But I would love to know literally anything about this clone character, which is now dead.
No, the clone fucking.
the whole fucking attitude
of the movie is you'll get nothing and like it
the clone was wearing what I
I'm going to put this on a quotation
marks is wearing the iconic
cat suit that Emma Peel wears right
and then later in the movie
Umma Thurman, the Mappeal character is just
wearing it so like did she take it off the clone's
dead body? When did she get? Dude I think
I think she stripped that corpse because I was
I was going through the timeline
Steve and I was like
where did she get that jumps
suit, if not tearing it off
the dead body of that corpse.
I mean, whenever you're
presented with a corpse, definitely scravage
whatever you can use.
Totally. See what's in that wallet, dude?
They don't need it. And also, like, yeah.
If you find a clone that is
wearing an outfit that you like, you are well
within your rights to kill that clone and take that
outfit. 100%. Yeah.
Yeah, that person can be naked in a coffin.
You know, it'll fit.
Exactly.
I really do wish we had gotten, like, the Ken Russell
cut of this where, like, stuff
like that's happening, but also we find
out Sean Connery's weird
obsession with Uma Thurman wife.
Like, all that stuff
suggests such a more perverted, like the guy
collects snow globes and is obsessed
with Uma Thurman, who might
be his wife or maybe not.
There's such a weird fucking guy
here, and I don't know nothing about him.
It sounds like a lot of, a lot of people out
there, to be honest.
Really? Yeah, of course.
The weirdos out there, my lord,
they're listening now. We've already said,
too much.
But so when,
when, you know, Steed
gets up to her and finds her alive
and everything, this is where they just start
making out and you're like,
definitely not. And then when they stop kissing,
he's like, oh, I was
kissing you to make sure you were the right
Emma Peel. Yeah.
And I want
like some like old British
haughty, but I cannot
believe this movie was terrible,
but they're not supposed to kiss.
that's not that's not my peel and steed my my son did not die in the falkland islands for this
he didn't die for much man yes he did he actually he died exactly for this
i don't know man so like they they infiltrate his thing and basically
she's going to fight eddie isard and he's going to fight uh sean connery and she fights
Eddie isard it is a quick it's almost something but like they're on a bunch of wires and like Eddie
is it just falls to her death it says fuck so cool that's something and I mean this is again if this
character we're speaking yes this is something right because you can imagine you know Eddie's uh you
know run in her mouth right here you know being Eddie and then like umma thurman is retorting
and whatnot and it could be like a thing but it's just not because this character is fucking
mute except they're actually
not because they say oh fuck at the end
it's all for nothing
like you because it's not a joke
like just saying oh fuck as your only
line is not a joke like the thing
is you have Izard
make like some fucking ridiculous face
and the character falls to its death
and that's you know what I mean and
stay within the joke because it's
so not funny
that's the thing it is but it is
that is the joke I'm sorry like the whole
character is leading up to that
joke. All you needed
was a face somebody would recognize
enough to keep up with that character
through the movie and then they had to say
fuck and that's about it. I think they were like
they probably before Eddie Isard was
cast they probably cast like
just one of those like nothing
faces from those early Guy Ritchie movies
and then it was like oh
well it's only going to be funny
if a known personality
perhaps even indeed a famously
articulate motor mouth
plays this character. You know who's
imposing when he's quiet, Jason Statham.
Sure. He would have been fine in that role, honestly.
Yeah, you can't get that guy to shut up, though.
Unless he says the better, man.
And Jason Statham should be seen and not heard.
I very much agree.
That's why I think he'd be perfect for it, honestly.
So, yeah, like, so Connery fighting with fines here,
he causes like a massive storm in this, like, I don't
know, silo, where this device
is being kept or some shit? I do like the line
like, oh, what's your name? Steed?
Sound like a horse's
ass. Oh, what a horse's
ass for a name.
Kind of the only time I was
like, all right, screenplay.
That's it. Yeah, and it
was a fucking improved line
too.
So you're only another
$30,000.
this is like you get during this end sequence there's a lot of shit that just made the trailer including like one of Sean Connery's things is like he's throwing darts at people in this movie and he tries to throw a bunch at Ray finds it hits the hat and he's like you're going to pay for that or whatever like that's in the trailer also like the weather storm outside is doing crazy shit including like again this is like these fucking Hollywood production designers being like all right so what uh what's something these fucking tea drinkers
recognize. Oh, what's that big
clock that they got? Look at that big
clock fucking blow it up. Yeah.
Because like Big Ben just
explodes and that was like all over
the trailer. It was Big Ben exploding.
With this lightning bolt going through it.
They should have blown up the Queen Mum.
Yeah. Get her ass out of there.
You see Buckingham in the background
unscathed as usual.
I bet you that was on the
cutting room floor, Eric. What if they
killed Prince Philip early, you know, 20 years
earlier? Save a lot of fucking
trauma that's for sure yeah
get out of the way
that's the thing is dying early is
underrated
there is a funny moment
in this fight though where it's like
when they're when they're doing like
some of the very brief like hand to hand
combat between the two guys
and like Ray finds elbows
Sean Connery in the back
yes there's a lot of
a really solid like ac me back
he's like really pounded on the back too
like really punching it it it's really kind of funny
And you get those classic, the classic lines of dialogue from this movie, like,
Time to Die.
Yeah.
And then, like, Ray finds just jumps down to, like, a lower platform.
And Sean Connery has to be like, oh, okay, I got to go down the stairs and I'll fight you down there now.
Yeah, I'm going to take the stairs.
I mean, like, what should have happened in this scene is Sean Conner, like, cut Steed's face and, like, it opens up and he's a robot.
Like, oh, that makes all this, like, he's like a Terminator, you know what I mean?
Like, he's a secret terminator the whole time.
Cologne should have been a robot.
I'm going to say it.
No, that's easier to stomach.
Clones are just too specific.
Also, if you're manipulating the weather,
it seems more sciencey, roboty,
than it does human cloning.
Yeah. No, I think you're totally right, man,
because that's like this organization,
now, this ministry, whatever,
you got one too many fingers
and one too many pies here.
You know what I'm saying?
Stick to, like, mechanics and robots.
Don't get into, like, biological shit.
it just doesn't make any sense.
I don't, I don't even get a scene where, like, we get, like, the clone,
Umah Thurman, like, walking out of a port, like, from the, whatever clone, what she was
cloned from, and, like, she's got, like, something odd.
Like, a robot face would be 10 times easier.
Just, like, peel it back, robot, peel it back.
Like, that's easy.
It's over.
And then it's like a Bill and Ted robot face underneath.
You know what I mean?
Ooh, yeah, totally.
That would be awesome.
I mean, yeah, now that would be awesome.
Otherwise, I need a Judge Dread-esque fucking cloning facility at least.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Well, you know, and that's when, dude, you get some serious cinematic universe crossover here.
You get Harris Eulen for multiplicity.
And he comes over and he's like, oh, you see there.
Probably have here with these English clones is you don't have one that's the workaholic,
the one that's the beefcake man, the stupid one and the gay one.
Which is the whole thesis of multiplicity?
This one is into tea more than normal.
All right.
All right.
I'll program him to say,
Crump it.
This one here,
he really loves soccer.
Or as you call it,
football.
Oh, great.
Hold on one second.
I'm getting a call from Quentin Tarantino.
No,
you can't have Uba Thurban's clone.
Just be feet.
It doesn't make any sense.
I don't know what a bendover is,
but that can't be legal.
Listen,
You buy the whole thing.
You're not getting a discount.
Just because you want the feet.
Oh, five years ago, I took a job from him.
I made a person completely out of feet for him, specifically for him.
He keeps in his basement.
Hands, feet, legs, feet, face, feet.
Terseal feet.
Next thing I knew, it totally blew up.
Got a phone call from the NFL's Rex Ryan.
Now I'm just making feet people.
Feetal, as I call them.
army of fetal.
Oh, fetal.
And this one is so fat,
we call it a fetal pig.
And they will rule over my feetom.
And it will truly be
a planet of feet.
Oh, planet of feet.
Finally, I'm home.
He actually didn't like it that much.
It turns out when you make a person
completely out of feet, you can't really step on
anything.
Oh, what's, what's this?
the ancient prophecy when the when the world is all feet the rivers will run red with
what way red red white with cum uh-huh indeed yeah if you get red cum there's some
problems when hell is full feet fetal will rule the world oh man you know what so the
shod connery dies really coolly here yes and as i as i was saying the reason for my one
star rating on letterbox is his death because like Ray finds impales him with
Sean Connery's own staff which then conducts lightning he's doing a little bit
of a skeletoning out but not as much as there should be like a quick like the
lightning the lightning just like steals him up into the sky or so yeah he
flies up into the sky and it is like a like a quickening of some kind of like a
bad quickening well they kind of take him out like a Terminator a little bit like
he's just a 65 year old man
you'll just shoot him in the heart
you'd like stab him and get him with electricity
yeah just impaling
with your stupid umbrella or whatever the fuck
Ray finds the storm eats him
like the fucking thunder comes up
and like scoops him up and eats the cloud
fucking shows him up
and by the way it's not that it matters that
this fight I guess is like
an island in London
that's not I don't know it's part of his
compound or something anyway it gets lit
up and that's that yes massive explosion because there's of course like umathurman turns off
the machine but then it kicks into some like self-destruct thing and she's she has some line that
i feel like really spoke to me as an audience member because she turns to ray finds and is like
you've got to be kidding me and i was like oh interesting umotherman that's what i've been saying this
whole movie but yeah it just blows up and then like immediately
like they get into this like you know the little bubble control center and you don't know what
happened to them and then it's like jim broadband on the horn with the prime minister like yeah don't
worry we definitely fucking killed that wiley scotsman uh haven't heard from my people yet yada yada bubble
comes up in the middle of the thames and starts like floating you know uh under tower bridge there
and everything and you're like all right end of the movie but then it's like there's this two second
little epilogue where they're
on a random rooftop
this gorgeous flowery rooftop
with Jim Broadbent. The two of them
are wearing white and there's flowers everywhere
and there's Jim Broadbent as like the older
figure and I was like, is this some
bullshit wedding scene we're watching right now?
Luckily it's not but it's
like close enough because they
clearly, they fucked
that bubbles way back up to the
surface for sure. Definitely I thought it was
a wedding scene and I rewound
it and I read Wikipedia to confirm
it wasn't but it kind of looks
like one. It definitely does
like just the wardrobe and the flowers
and you're outside and whatever
so like it's not really
a you know you're not going to believe
this but it's still
in a way like this is just
the first of many wild
adventures for the Avengers
many of these people. Also are they called
the Avengers at any point? I don't think so.
No they're just sort of like you know they're there
it literally is just steed and peal.
Yeah, dude, I love their sketch about Gremlins, too.
That's the end of this fucking piece of shit movie.
I kind of know what everyone's going to say, but Steve will start with you,
recommendations and final thoughts.
Oh, Lordy, no, no, no, no, no.
It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's super dull and two actors I really like, and, you know,
three, put in, no, I actually, I like most of the cast, I like Fiona Shaw, I like.
It's a great cast, yeah, exactly.
I love, I mean, we haven't talked a ton about him, but Ray Fines is usually excellent and
awesome. I haven't been
this bored since by a movie since
Spider, huh gang?
Anybody?
Is that a good movie? I haven't watched it forever.
It's a good movie, Steve. Okay, it's been, it's been.
But it's a movie where I watched it as a
year. Exactly.
Because you know what it was, Cabin? Was that
was right when Cronenberg was making a turn
from like, I'm making
exclusively David Cronenberg
esk movies. And I was
at the time, like, that ain't my
Cronenberg. Yeah. You know, so
I do want to go back to it, but at the time
I remembered Steve also not like it.
Anywho, yeah, I also wanted this movie to be
sillier because it's got that reputation of being one of the
worst movies ever made. You're like, oh, well, it's
not even a seeing as believing. Just like
really stay clear. There's nothing
here. Yeah, totally.
Chris Cabin. Oh, yeah. I forgot
like, looking back at it,
I just didn't understand how
inept it was even the last time whenever
I saw it was. Like, I
was like, oh yeah, that's definitely a bad movie.
I remember seeing it thinking it was a bad movie, but like,
how deeply wrong it is.
It's almost like a snowman thing
where I'm like,
I don't understand what's going on.
And I don't know where I'm at.
Like,
I was searching the whole time.
And it also has that fake,
Bertany feel a little bit
that we're still getting,
like this in the shadow,
both were like working through some shit
that just didn't work out.
And yeah,
a terrible movie.
Don't see it.
Eric Siska.
Yeah,
I think this is one of the worst movies
we've ever done.
I would add it to the Pantheon, including
the pest and ultraviolet.
It's just, there's just nothing here.
I don't like it.
Don't watch it.
I think it's a thing where, you know,
I don't agree with those folks that are like,
oh, it's, I'm putting on my list of, like,
the worst movies ever made.
Because I feel like with studio chop jobs,
that kind of disqualifies it.
But at the same time,
this, Chris,
I'm glad you brought up
Snowman
Mr. Police
I gave you all the clues
because that's another movie
where it's like
it was just such a disaster
you really like
society would have been
better off if you just shelved it
and that's what this is
it's like
the world would not have blinked
we would not have missed
a rotation around the sun
if this movie had never come out
no one would have been disappointed
you know what I mean
and it's like
if you're going to butcher
a movie this much
you're going to butcher your product
like eat shit Warner Brothers like no way you should have put this movie out like it is terrible
yes the Marvel Avengers is a better movie thank you it is
it's still not a movie I care for but it's better than this obviously because it's at least
a movie that's put together properly you know what I mean and like there's nothing I hate
worse than a squandered cast and top to bottom everybody's here is wasted so like yep
I agree with everybody here I agree with Steve it's not a seeing his believing do not bother
if you haven't. I will say the
I tried to watch this once before
I rented it. I fell
asleep with the rented
DVD and when I you know
the next day I just took it back to the
you know maybe someday I'll have some show
and I'll have to talk about it but right now in
1999 I'm returning you to Blockbuster
Oh and that's it folks
that is the end of Sean Gone month
but this has been fun man
reignited my love for Highlander
I don't know well
We'll come back to some Connery movies.
Oh, for sure.
One movie you guys should all seek out is a movie called Outland,
which is Sean Connery in Space.
It's definitely an episode, but it's on the L.A.
It's like a Highlander LH kind of a situation.
I've been circling it.
I've been circling it.
So I definitely got to check it out.
It's a dad movie, man.
It's basically high noon in space with Sean Connery.
It's like almost exactly.
Is that not directed by O.J. Simpson's best friend Peter Heim's.
I believe it is indeed
Oh
Oh right
Yeah by the way
Dude to be known as OJ Simpson's best friend
That's a problem
Who else is in that movie Steve
Anybody have known or is it just the Connery show
It's mostly the Connery show
There's other like character actors
I want to say that show up
But not like hold on pulling up right now
Peter Boyle is like the bad guy
That's right
Oh now we're talking
All right well now I'm definitely sold
But yeah
Sean Gone Month was a lot of fun
If you haven't soaked up
All of Sean Gone Month
because, of course, over on Patreon, we do have a We Love Movies episode on Goldfinger.
Patreon.com slash we hate movies.
Got a lot going on there this month, including it dropped last week, gang, the first ever once
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We're talking stalked by my doctor with Eric Roberts.
That's a wild ride right there.
Quite a messy listen.
We get quite wild in that one, I will say.
I think all these left-time ones are going to be adults only, FYI.
Yeah, totally.
don't listen to that one in the car with the kids that's all i have to say um but of course the nexus
will be coming out in short order uh what the hell was the ad this month the mighty ducks uh yeah the mighty
ducks we also have gold finger on the w lm feed yeah we got a lot of exciting stuff on there
the gleep glossary where we read about star wars characters you might have forgotten this month is
the goat face
three eyedman from
Jabba's
sail barge I believe but
sail barge indeed dude yeah he was part of the crew
at the palace all them scumbags
but he was the one they hated the most
tragic life of course
Melrode 210
already out we are enjoying
the Patreon journey there again
with our favorite
LA Wunderkins and weird
mid-20s pseudo
adults. But as
always here on We Hate Movies, the show rolls on
even though Sean Gone Month, the sun
is setting on it. We are kicking off
a new month next week. And Steve, what
is going on? Next week
will be the first time I ever watch
Stargate. What?
Yes, dude.
Holy shit. Okay, yeah. Stargate
is a movie that I remember
being one of the best movies
in the 90s when I was a kid.
I'm sure it doesn't hold up, but
Kurt Russell's in it and Russell rules.
It's a little long in the tooth, but you got James Spader playing like a nerdy guy with long hair.
I'm very stoked to revisit this one.
Is this also, I mean, because it's May, this is the kickoff of our summer blockbuster extravagant.
We do that in June.
It's kind of, yeah.
Well, it's kind of the same thing.
It's the same.
I mean, we do have a lot of great titles coming out in June and May, by the way.
Yeah, we might as well be.
We are stacked throughout this summer.
And I'll, I will drop a hint.
there will be a Kurt Russell
on the WLM as well by the way
that's right
look at that shit
I'll say about Stargate it's a movie that
I rented on VHS and like the weekend
that I rented it I watched it like
five times. Opening
night packed house
really that's awesome dude I got to say
I haven't seen it in a really long time
there was a time maybe like two years ago I tried to
rewatch it complete green out
situation and I never went back but
it was a movie that like little
like preteen Andrew was obsessed
with for a while. I think Richard Kind is
in it. Let me check.
Ooh, I like that.
He might be in the early part.
Like when the scientists.
Yes, he's one of the know-it-all.
Yeah, he is in it.
Yeah, he's one of the...
But James Spader's like, oh, you forgot to do the...
Oh, what are you talking about?
I didn't do that.
Dude, we got French Stewart.
It's a stacked cast.
Wow, French Stewart is a science fiction film.
Yes.
Besides, a science fiction film,
besides his sitcom which was science fiction and it's specter gadget too and some would argue
home alone three that's what the one he was in all right look you know what second shot i'm a little
off my game but everyone should get that second shot because it's going to feel great when i go to
the fucking movie theater absolutely there it is folks so until next week when we cross dimensions
i'm andrew stephen say that eric ciska chris gabin take it easy
That was a hit-gum podcast.
