We Hate Movies - S11: Unlock the Vault - Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Episode Date: August 10, 2021

On this special unlocked Patreon ep, it's the December 2018 episode of The Nexus, our Star Trek recap show, when we covered the greatest Trek film of all time, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan! Go back... in time and listen to how we raved over Shatner's wig, fawned over Ricardo's chest, and cried at Spock's death! PLUS: Can we all be buried in sunglass case-looking torpedo coffins? The Wrath of Khan stars William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelly, James Doohan, Ricardo Montalban, Nichelle Nichols, Walter Koenig, George Takei, Bibi Besch, Merritt Butrick, and Paul Winfield; directed by Nicholas Meyer. The Nexus is a WHM Patreon-exclusive show where the gang chats about one episode of TOS and one TNG each month. And every now and again, they throw in a lengthier discussion about a Trek film! Catch WHM on tour this fall! WHM Merch Store Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:17 ...time... Well, happy summer vacation one and oh, Chris, well, happy summer vacation one and all. Chris, I told you, when you're doing my back, don't, don't, don't. circle it. You've got to go down. Look, do you want me to do it or? I mean, I'd like you to do it right. Can you stop kicking sand as well? Look, I have to get my jollies somehow. So kicking sand at you is the only way I got. Okay, buddy.
Starting point is 00:01:13 We're in a, we're in a sandbox in the Bronx right now. Dude, that's exactly right. It really smells like pee. Orchard Beach steer clear. Absolutely, dude. My feet got all sorts of holes in a But I, you know, I started to feel really good after I stepped on that one thing. Totally. Plus, we're getting all that fucking friend. food that's out there. I love that. No, of course, welcome to one of our summer vacation episodes.
Starting point is 00:01:36 That's right. Even We Hate Movies needs a fucking break every once in a while. But you know, a lot of people are not hip to this program. We also do called The Nexus, which is on Patreon. Patreon.com slash We Hate Movies. And this is one of our movie episodes on there for The Wrath
Starting point is 00:01:51 of Con. We've done a few of these now. I think last year we did a three-hour episode on Star Trek 2009. We've done First Contact. Yes. And on the month basis, what we're doing is an episode of the original series and the next generation. That's right. If you sign up on patreon.com, there's a brand new episode
Starting point is 00:02:08 right now on, or coming out this month on we just did a fun episode on The Bonding and a very racist episode of the original series. Yeah, the Omega Glory episode. That's right. But this, yeah, this is us on the Nexus
Starting point is 00:02:23 talking about one of the fucking all-time great Star Trek movies. Star Trek to The Wrath of Khan, directed by Nicholas Meyer. So, yeah, that's about it. We are on summer vacation, like we have said, for the next few weeks here. But also, just real quick,
Starting point is 00:02:40 while you're sitting around, clicking around on the internet, downloading all sorts of stuff, after the summer is over, we are prepping. One of the reasons we have to take so many weeks off now is to really get our minds right. That's right. Because this fall, we're going on tour.
Starting point is 00:02:53 The mindset. This October, the WWF, I almost said. Oh, yeah, dude. Get another prick on the beach, you lush. Actually, I might be hitting one of the guys with a chair at some of these upcoming dates. October 13th will be at Hilarities, Cleveland, Ohio. I think I'll hit you with a chair there. Nice.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We're doing a nightmare on Elm Street 3, the Dream Warriors. You can hit me with Freddie Kruger's skeleton. I'll get you from the turnbuckle, though, Eric. Well, yeah, October 14th will be at the Pittsburgh improv talking taken. My God, it's taken. Are those tickets might be taken? if you sleep on them. That's right. Better shake them bungs over to the website.
Starting point is 00:03:33 After that, we're at the Majestic Theater in October 16th talking about Robocop 3. Fuck, yes. Yeah, I'm very excited for that. Talking Robocop in Detroit, which is Robocop's hometown. I don't have to tell you. I've only seen the first one. I've got blackout drug for the last year. Does he
Starting point is 00:03:51 eat Detroit-style pizza in any of those movies? No, I don't think there's any. That's a false conversion. No, but in the one we're going to talk about Detroit, though, dude, he fucking flies. and you can see them strings. And then, you know, a month later, November 18th, we'll be at the comedy zone in Charlotte, North Carolina, talking under siege.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Fuck, yeah. Talk to the captain on that one. Why don't you go talk to the captain? November 19th, the Orange Peel in Asheville, North Carolina, talking junior, which is the movie where Danny DeVito impregnates Arnold Schwarzenegger. And Emma Thompson just kind of looks on shrugging her shoulders. I shit out the baby, Danny.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Oh, no, I told you to pull out. November 21st, we'll be at Zanies in Nashville, Tennessee, talking footloose, the movie where they banned dancing or something. Yeah, they make it illegal dude by penalty of death, I think. That's right. This guy's shooting people. He's tossing progressive soup cans at the kids dancing. Get the fuck off the dance floor! And finally, December 9th will be at the Bell House in beautiful Brooklyn, New York for our 10th.
Starting point is 00:04:59 10 year anniversary show, one year late. That's right. And details on that show, TBD. Yeah, we're going to figure that out. Come to multiple shows. You know, I saw some people dipping. Like, people, I'm so excited to go to Cleveland and Detroit. You should do both.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I'm encouraging it. That's pretty right on. And just since you're listening to this, we want to reveal some information. Today, we actually just... We're actually doing this. We just recorded for this year's WLM. It's a full episode, full-length movie episode. We're going to release a two-and-a-half-hour episode on Generations.
Starting point is 00:05:36 That's right. Yeah, Star Trek Generations, which is a better movie than a lot of people give it credit for. That's right, but not better than the one you are about to listen to us talk about. This is us from a while back talking Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan. We'll see you next week. Step into the Nexus with his loyal Patreon subscribers and welcome to a very
Starting point is 00:06:33 special edition of the program. I'm Andrew Jupin alongside the whole gang, Christopher Cabin, Eric Siskin, Steven Sadek. We are here to talk about Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan from 1982, directed by Nicholas Meyer. And of course, this is part of the We Love Movies Month
Starting point is 00:06:49 here, December 2018. We recently did Space Seed on the program. So this just seemed like a natural thing to do to jump on up. Talking about the best. Talking about the best Star Trek movie ever made. Yeah, and as true in true Nexus form, we're going to do first contact
Starting point is 00:07:05 right after this. It's going to be a six-hour episode. No. Nobody's got the stamina for that, or the patience audience-wise. I think the next time we end up doing a we love movie situation, I think that's a natural idea is to do contact on the Nexus.
Starting point is 00:07:21 The line must be done here. Jean-Luc blew up the damn shit. Oh, man, Alpary Woodard rules in that movie. I don't know. Although generations doesn't enough credit. That movie is really good. I haven't, I haven't gone back to generations in a really long time. I need to reinvestigate. Could I interest you in William Shatner making an enormous omelet? Because that is, yeah, that's true. In generation. It's a big omelet and then it gets buried under a pile of rocks. Like I'll know what. That's a good way to go. Like Uncle Buck
Starting point is 00:07:51 size. Oh man, William Shatter with a fucking giant giant shovel flipping of egg. It's a dinosaur egg. Would you like something? Hey, Britt. You want an egg? Man, that's another movie. I'm an overdover. You watch his Uncle Buck. Oh, yeah. It's been a while. Can I, a quick story about Nicholas Meyer, by the way. One, if you can read the book that he wrote about his whole experience making this movie, it's fucking awesome. Including shock of all shocks, by the way, Shatner being a fucking piece of shat. Really? You don't say.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Billy Boy? Just, you know, insofar as like, just difficulties for him into cave, feuding and all that shit. Well, I won't sit next to him. Yeah, exactly. A lot of that. I'm looking up, I just want to... What's Bill eating? Because I'm not eating that. You weren't even supposed to be here. The book is called The View from the Bridge, memories of Star Trek and a life in Hollywood. He also talks about, like,
Starting point is 00:08:55 other movies he's directed. Well, you kind of have to. But he also did Star Trek 60, in their undiscovered country. Which is like probably my second favorite Star Trek movie. It's a great movie. Totally underrated probably.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I love that movie too. I actually, this is my, last night was my second time watching this movie all the way through. Whoa. Holy moly. What happened the first couple times
Starting point is 00:09:15 you step on a mousetrap? I should probably. No, the pornography. I put it on and the pornography is right there. Oh, sure. That happens. You drift away. Especially with Kirstie Alley in those
Starting point is 00:09:26 Vulcan ears. I should probably say, this was the first time I've watched us all the way. Wow. I've seen me beat. I've seen it all in patchwork. Also, like, I'm not, I'm not shocked because any listener of the show knows that Chris Cabin is the outlier with Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:09:42 He's not a fan, and that's okay. So what did you think? The new ones are really good. Sure. What did you think? It's really good. It's probably is my favorite of the Star Trek movies. Yeah, I would say that.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, so just really quickly. So this Nicholas Meyer's story, totally awesome. So ages ago, I played Rath of Khan for a night. just as a fun, like, oh, it's a fucking, whatever it was, like a Saturday night. At a movie theater, we have to say this for the new listeners. Oh, right. Yes. During the day, I'm a film curator, and I was playing this at the Jacob Burns Film Center. And so we get an email. Well, someone says to me, like, oh, we got an email from somebody, something Meyer saying
Starting point is 00:10:20 something about you're playing her son's movie. You report that for fishing. So I get this email forwarded to me And it's Nicholas at Meyer's mother She lives in just First of all she lives question mark Yeah she's 700 years old I think she's like in her 80s
Starting point is 00:10:40 Genesis device This was like five years ago I mean maybe she's passed away Did you make fun of my Nicky? Mr. Meyer your mother's on line one Oh she never got over that affair with President Tapp Oh yeah she's like Mrs. Byrd.
Starting point is 00:10:56 She's kind of... All right, I'm sorry. No, so it's... I mean, it's not really much of a story, but so she says, I, you know, I saw that you're playing my son's movie and she, like, lived in the area.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And she said, desist. She said, you know, he's a big fan of your theater. And sometimes he goes when he comes and visits me. You know, do you want me to let him know that you're playing the movie? And I was like, whatever. Yeah, it's a public screening.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Doesn't matter. He's got to buy a ticket, though. Totally. free country lady talk to you later Yeah this lady was fishing for free tickets I think that's what that was
Starting point is 00:11:30 So she tells him This motherfucker buys himself A plane ticket from L.A He flies to New York Does a Q&A Really? Yeah No he didn't ask for like a
Starting point is 00:11:41 You know per diem or anything like that He was like oh cool I love that area I love that theater I would love to come talk about my movie And that's amazing It fucking sucked ass dude Because I had to miss it
Starting point is 00:11:53 Oh, what? Did you step on a mouse traps? I did. I kept stepping on rakes like side show bob. No, but I was traveling. Whatever was I couldn't make it. But he was apparently like so rad. He was the nicest dude.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Stayed around for ages because of course he got those fucking nerds coming up. Oh, dude, those nerds. A wizard did it. He suffered every single nerd and he stuck around. Yeah, it was great. So I've nothing but goodwill for Nicholas Meyer. He's a definitely underrated director.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Even time after time is pretty solid. see that. Yeah, that's a fun little movie. H.G. Wells versus not Dracula. I almost said Jack the Ripper. That's right. He's like a grounded, realistic Dracula. Malcolm McDowland, who? Uh, some dude. So, um, the show was like Christopher Reeve? No, it's Malcolm McDowell and somebody else. Mary Steambird. Probably Michael York, I think. Michael York, maybe. Oh, Michael York. That might be. Anyway, sorry, where were you saying? The show Star Trek went off the air. As it did. And, about 10 years later they're like hey let's or 12 years late was it 78 the first movie 79
Starting point is 00:12:58 the motion picture 79 sounds right 79 79 79 motion picture comes out it does well but everybody kind of hates it yeah you know what I mean and it was over budget so they didn't make a lot of money like etc etc they're like hey Roddenberry fuck you we want a movie that's a movie as opposed to like and also for the record I really like the motion picture I think it's underrated I think the visuals are really cool I think it was kind of a very of like I watched it first on VHS and it's like yeah you guys will be watching a static television but also I mean blue ray looks incredible it's very much not the television show yes
Starting point is 00:13:36 and it's very much you know it's 11 years after 2001 but like you kind of have a sequence that's similar I think it's actually a really good movie I see a lot of people that are like yeah about an episode on Star Trek the nope not it's really good yeah I mean uh it's the source spot of course is that there's a fucking child rapist as a main character. Yeah, that's a... That dude should fucking burn for all eternity. Man, a treasure chest of fucking material, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:14:04 So, Ronbury goes away, they're like, hey, what if we made the movie fun? And they're like, oh, fun. That sounds... What about a villain? That's not like, I don't know, like a misunderstanding of the Voyager. Yeah, totally. A fucking... A classic spelling error.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I love that, though. What a great twist. Oh, feature, buddy. It's so rad. You don't see it coming. I remember the first time I watched it. Well, I will say, first time I tried to watch Star Trek the motion picture, I was a little kid, and I was like, this is boring.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And I fell asleep, like, immediately. I was freaked out by the dude getting fucked up in the transporter. That's always great. What came back wasn't human or whatever that line is so awesome. But other than that, I was like, why are they all wearing, like, fucking tan cult costumes? Like, I didn't get it. The uniforms were not as good.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's bad, yeah. I feel like it's probably Roddenberry getting into his like utopian whatever the fuck beliefs that he had side note and time after time it was David Warner David now we're talking went on to play Chancellor Gorkin
Starting point is 00:15:03 in Uniscovered country That's right Did you just say Sebastian Gorka? Yes he went on to be Sebastian Gorka in the Trump administration This is my greatest role A complete asshole You're welcome
Starting point is 00:15:17 So whatever So this is what Rath of Khan is It's, we're kind of going back, we're going back to our roots, right? Like, it's a space adventure, uh, better uniforms, better uniforms. Better uniforms. Also, side note, this Picard show that's, that's may or may not be happening, probably happening. It's in the writing stages as we record this.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Needs new uniforms. Yes. You know, you move from, because I don't think they ever did that for, for TNG, for the movies, they kept the same uniforms. They, no, Eric, why would a private investigator wear a uniform? Oh, oh. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Picard P.I. Yes. Just he's got a little office in San Francisco. But Eric, why would this super fun schoolmaster at a haunted private school need a uniform? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Star Trek always needed a good haunting, dude. But Eric, why would a beleaguered marriage counselor need an uniform? Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But Eric, why would he retired recovering alcoholic baseball pitcher who now owns a Starfleet bar, Need a uniform Now it's just Cheers with peccas No you need one on the wall though Oh that's yeah Remember the old days No for the for the movies
Starting point is 00:16:31 They gave them those like weird And maybe this isn't in generations But they introduced it in first contact I don't remember The inverse guys The gray shoulder pad situation Oh that's it yeah that's in I think that's their first content
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's like an off purple Maybe like a little bit It's like a grayish purple And they also invert it where it's It's like, it's not, you're not main red. Red is on your shoulders. You're mostly black because it's a bit slimming. That's true.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I guess I was wrong, but they just weren't good. See, I'm looking at, oh, so I'm looking at a frame grab now. And it's like, it's like that purplish thing that Eric's talking about. It's still black. Yeah. Everything's black. And then, like, they have like a turtleneck collar part that has their rank color in it. I'm less excited about these uniforms.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I did like them more this. Oh, the red ones, you mean, the con uniforms? I love that. I think they're great. They look really cozy. I feel like it would be hard to stay awake. It's like all velvet. It's like, oh, man, it's like really cozy.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It looks like you live on the Moors. Well, the jacket component, like when Kirk beams down to the science station in this movie, it's that big, fucking thick wool collar. I want that, holy shit, dude. But to Chris's point, it's like he's walking around. It's like foggy inside the entire ship. It looks more naval than what the TOS. uniforms were and you could not bring that to the big screen.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Those fucking little shirts. They look like you're on a fucking company softball team with those things. I like the Abrams update of those. Those are really fun. They look good. You know, because it was very close to the original. But a doughy William Shatner and that would look like shit. So you need that big maroon coat.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yes, Chris. Can I ask what part of the new wardrobe for Kirk? Which part is the one that gives them the discount for coffee. I think all of it, dude. It's fucking... It's the big sash or... Dude, Shatner
Starting point is 00:18:27 does... Kirk in these movies, he's not paying for anything. Support the truth. He walks right into a Starbucks because it's an outer space. That's what they call it. He's just like, support the troops. Because of Starbucks, which is on a star. Yes, exactly. Dark Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, no, somebody says, thank you for your service and he gets a fucking freak up of coffee. Space coffee. Wait, money doesn't exist anymore, right? Or does it exist in TOS? I think we still have money until TNG. Yeah. Gotcha. Or maybe it's like a bartering system. He's trading
Starting point is 00:19:00 things. Right. Well, that's what Bones is up to. We'll get into that. That's true. Whatever he's trading. But one thing I was thinking about when I was reading about Batman 89, which we just did on the main feed there, it's like there's always that story about, oh my God, Adam West was so upset that he wasn't asked back.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And in my entire life until last night, I was like, Oh, that's such, what, what an idiot? Why would he ever expect to be asked back? But, like, no. It's the same situation as Star Trek, though. Like, if you're Adam West at, like, the mid-70s, early 80s, when they're pitching and shopping Batman around, you're like, look at your buddy Will Shatter, which is the same story. It's like a 60s show that was huge.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Right. That went away that, like, lived on in reruns was super popular. You're like, well, I could still do that. But in 1989, though? Not in 1989, but like 81, 82, like, you know what I mean? Like, there could have been a weird Batman. the motion picture, which would have been terrible with the all the original cast.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Right. Well, whoever's that movie that they made kind of sucks. I love that movie. Really? Yeah. The one where Adam West is coming around the giant bomb? Yes. It's one of my favorite movies. Really? It's fine. Top 50.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Above or below X2? Oh, it's below X2. It's well below it. It's a campy fun classic. I just don't like that. I've got no problem with it. Now we're all in this warehouse like the penguin the riddler the jet they're all fucking here it's amazing they almost got them they did almost got them so we start do we start with a cobalashiru is that how we do we do after a fucking killer and this is the same thing speaking of Batman 89 killer few moments of
Starting point is 00:20:38 just an overture yes you get it in 89 with the the the the the the Danny elphan song is playing and the signal you're the cameras like going around the insignia a little bit this is like just an info just a little shot of like the stars you know and the fucking songs it's a real find your seats beginning it's like everybody everybody ready because then it just goes right into the credits
Starting point is 00:21:01 it's just boom fucking Star Trek Rath a con but the credits I mean like there's too much ranking in the credits it's starring William Shatter obviously starring Leonard Nimoy we're listing roles too which I don't like as whomever and then it's like there's coast
Starting point is 00:21:18 stars also stars and then and then all the go through the whole thing and then at the end it's and starring which is weird we were we were done with star right the stars the stars are out tonight i think shatner had a whole cast system set up in his contract well the most shocking part about it though is it's shatner nemoi which okay yeah fucking third is due hand no de force kelly's got to be third oh you're right sorry de force kelly but then duhan is fourth though. Yeah. I don't know. Get, I mean, Wedge Montelban right in there. No, it's and
Starting point is 00:21:54 starring Montelbaum. You either get an and or you're just with the rest of the starings up front. What is a stupid thing? But the other thing is like, why even use the word co-star? Because that's like a fucking chatner thing. Well, they're co-stars, aren't they? A Do-Han's not on
Starting point is 00:22:10 my level, is he? I'm a star and then they all co-star with each other. Co-star is like third build on a sitcom. You know what I mean? Or less than that even. And I think he always calls them co-star. Like Jimmy Dewan, he doesn't call him Jimmy or hey, Mr. Dewan or whatever. It's co-star.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It's co-star number four. Yeah, that's right. You're now named after the call sheet. Oh, my God. Hey, Co-Star, why don't you stop blowing your line? I heard it was your birthday yesterday, Co-Star. Congratulations. Number five, I saw that smirk.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Go get me some Starbucks. Uh, yes. So like Steve said, this is the Kobayashi Maru. And it's like, we don't understand what's going on. It's Kirstie Isley. She's a Vulcan. He's a half Vulcan. Uh, and she's in the captain's chair. But then you got Spock. You got Uh, you got, uh, you got Sulu. Yes. Uh, why are all these people helping out with the school exercise? I have no. It doesn't make any, it makes sense that like, you know, Spock, he's a teacher or whatever. It's like Professor Spock, which is a show. I mean, he's dead now. R. IP. But, you know, that's a show. would have been a great show. That would have been fucking sick. But he's now the captain of the Enterprise. Yeah. Right. So maybe he just like, I don't know. Oh, it's called in a bunch of favors, get his old, like, I need to know, I need to know that these kids are all right. So I need all the most experienced people. Right. It's his prize. People who's up. Right. So that would make sense. Savick. Yeah. And the other thing is like, okay. Okay. All right. Well, okay. I'll, I'll definitely come along. Training is very important. I remember when
Starting point is 00:23:44 commander pike did my training i i will pass this on wait i have to explode yeah hold on this is a little weird firecrackers under my chairs and the acting of being exploded and laying on the ground i don't understand that also i've been tagged i'm dead like also fucking bones is in there why is bones there it's all fake well they're listening All these people would have a heart attack and die anyway. If you command the enterprise, you might have to deal with a drunk doctor. Oh, so he's just there so you get the feel for what it's actually going to be like. Like, all right, Savick, now listen, this is the test.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It's an unwinnable scenario. Also, this fucking old codger is just going to be distracted you the whole time. You need to practice ignoring this man. You know, Savick, another thing I like talking about is mint julep. Do you ever have a mint jolip, Savick? The Klingons are on the bar. Just shut up, old man. Now, another thing I want to mention about horse racing.
Starting point is 00:24:45 You ever hear the band 3-11? It's all mixed up. Don't know what to do. You know what, Savick? I think that Amber is the color of your energy. All right. Eject that old man. Fire him at the Klingon.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Airlock? I wish. That'd be like the one way to beat the Kovia Shibir. Firing crew members have them. They have no. honor. Yeah, they would retreat. They would respect your fear.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Kirk's season, just said, respect. Oh, dude, this first. So, like, yeah, it's like, you know, we're doing the Kobayashmuru. It's an unwinnable exercise. I think it's the ideas that Klingons are on their way, but they're in the neutral zone. They can't retreat.
Starting point is 00:25:30 They should go forward. There's people that need to beam off. Yeah. Shit goes wrong. Everybody starts blowing up. And it goes wrong. This first shot of Shatner was fucking storyboard.
Starting point is 00:25:40 by William Shack. I love it. I love it. I think it's so awesome. I've loved this shot since before I knew that it was okay to love shots. Just watching this as a little kid,
Starting point is 00:25:50 I'm like, that's fucking cool. The fucking blood lights behind him. Just the ship opens up and just God steps on the stage. But boy, oh boy, I will tell you what, though, I noticed it this time
Starting point is 00:26:02 and this time alone. Dude, when he's in silhouette and the floodlights are behind him still and shit, you can see, right through this fucking puffy hair that he's got going on. It's like, oh, HD.
Starting point is 00:26:17 There are so many wigs in this movie. Oh, yeah. We're going to talk about my favorite wig in a minute. But yeah, the shot of Shatner and he comes on and then he has that great line. He's like, lights. And then boom, you're on this like little play set, basically.
Starting point is 00:26:33 What an odd thing. Like I just located by shoulder during that huge explosion. Yeah, is there workers comp here? Look at this. I scratched my arm. That's definitely going to scar. Oh, yeah. Let me just rub my tricorder on there for you.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Good as new. It's crazy. Like, Bones immediately starts shit talking him while laying in his fucking, like, death position to which... And then he says to Spock here, too. This is weird. He's like, aren't you dead? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:02 That was great foreshadowing. Totally. Well, what I read about that was, you know, Spock dies in this movie. Spoiler alert, by the way. They, uh, and it leaked and most people thought there's an urban legend that, uh, Gene Rodenberry was leaking stuff from this movie because he, he was so pissed that he was removed from it. Oh, really? And he wasn't happy about Spock dying, whatever. I'll show them.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It leaks how things leak, which I guess is like going to, literally going to a fan convention and saying it. So like, there's a writing, right in campaign and everyone's like, oh my God, Spock dies this movie. So this scene is almost like a fake out, kind of like, oh, you misunderstood it. That's what... Oh, interesting. So I guess that makes sense that's why you need the rest of them
Starting point is 00:27:44 to kind of like butter up this ruse a little bit, polish it a little. So the J.J. Abrams tried to do that, but he did it terrible. She's there. I mean, I like that movie, but it's just like,
Starting point is 00:27:56 what are we doing? You could have just told me up front not like fake me out in the press for five months. Totally. It's not con. It's not gone. It's not gone.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And then I'm just like, what? It's not even a fake out. You were just badly lying exactly but yeah I mean like so that was the thing and like but there's also this thing where like the earlier drafts
Starting point is 00:28:17 of this script had Spock dying in like the first couple of scenes and they they called it akin to Janet Lee dying in Psycho so now I'm just imagining that was a good Kobayashi Maru let's hit the showers yeah you uh
Starting point is 00:28:33 go on ahead I'm going to jerk off in the other room where I've got a peephole oh son of a bitch, I stole $45,000 from Starfleet. Better get in this car and keep... What's that noise? Oh, it's nothing. Who said that? No one. This cheap Starfleet motel. Just get a shot of Khan going out to an eye hole. That is right, Mr. Spock. I am dressed as my mother. He's got the fucking wig for it, man. I don't know. I don't know. What the fuck the thing he's wearing is?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Dude, he looks like Pat Benatar. We are young. You know, love is a battlefield, as is space. Pat Benatar's sex nemesis, maybe. You see that fucking old man over there? That guy's my sex nemesis. This is the world I want to explore. I want to know more about.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I agree. A Star Trek sex nemesis would have been a better movie in Star Trek nemesis. It would almost happen to be. Did we do a commentary track for that movie? We did, yeah. I think that's back on way over on cdbaby.com. Yeah, wow. The old days.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Just a plug. It's still there, I think. I think so. So what's her name? So like, it's actually Kirk's birthday, FYI. Love it. And Spock gives him a tale of two cities. Oh, no, here's a DVD copy of
Starting point is 00:30:06 Garfield 2, a tale of Two kiddies. A classic. He has the line. He's like, I know how you, your fondness for antiques. And he's like, you know, there's nothing wrong with reading. You know, Spock, when I asked for Dickens, I was expecting something a little bit more racy. Sex nemesis style. So then we get one of the coolest scenes in all of Star Trek. And it's only because of the location, James.
Starting point is 00:30:38 James T. Kirk's awesome apartment. Oh, my lord. I love this. Dude, you can smell the bad cologne and fucking mahogany floors from a mile away. I got to tell you, this reminded me so much of Frazier's apartment in Seattle. Yeah, I buy that. He's got a sick view, too. Yeah, the view, there's a lounge share that's similar. Oh, my dad sits there.
Starting point is 00:31:01 My crotchety old dad. Oh, here comes my crotchety old dad's crotchety old space dog. Well, it's weaponry on the wall, right? Okay, so that's the difference. Niles, get away from my wall of guns. There's an amazing feature wall that's like curved and it has a fireplace and I want to build this now. It looks pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Now, Frasier, Maris would like to borrow your mace for a little bit. I love that it's all like old revolvers. It looks like he robbed the prop department from Barry Liddon. all these fucking old dueling guns. Kelsey Grammer plays a Star Trek captain in some one of these movies. No, he's on next generation. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:47 I think he briefly plays the captain of the Enterprise C. Is he, wait, is he in, I feel like he's in something too, like generations with Christians later anyway, I'm probably way off, but I definitely seen that motherfucker in her uniform and I thought it was one of these red coats.
Starting point is 00:32:04 No, it is. The way they play it It's like, oh, it's like lost in time. Yes. Holy fuck. Did we cover that on the show? No, I mean, that's like, we'll do that in fucking 2019. Yeah, that's fine. We'll do that once we are living in Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:32:18 If we keep taking breaks for movies, we're never going to get there. Yeah, that's fine. No one cares. Nobody cares. No, no, actually some people vocally care a lot. So in any event, Bones shows up for his birthday. He's got him some Romulan ale. Oh, you better believe it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 With the best detail ever that he's just... Oh, yeah, I know some, you know, drug runners that take this across the neutral zone. So he's got like, he's in, in with a ship that is smuggling this illegal alcohol. Well, I'm sorry, Bones, I'm going to have to place you under arrest. Yeah. I play by the book. Well, Kirk, I couldn't get you to spice morange. But I tried, so here's some Romulan ale.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You'll fry for this one. I got some Romulan ale and some Klingon uppers. What do you want, Jim Boy? I'm a walking pharmacy. You know, you grow a second backbone if you take those cling on pills.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know, Jim, boy, I just got in a shipment of some sticky, itky Vulcan marijuana. But I mean, I feel like the way that Romulan L is treated, it's got to make you hallucinate, right? Like, yeah. It's like alcohol times five. Bones definitely says something about it.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Now, I only use it for medicinal purposes. You know what I think it is? I think it's like absent. Yeah. I think it's, except for if all of the legends were true. Right. Absence does not make you listen. No.
Starting point is 00:33:54 It does not make you listen. It makes you really drunk. The spoiled absinth invented in the 1500s made you fucking hallucinate. fermented in a corpse. Unless you get the bottle with the fungus in it. Hey, Jim Boy, this hit you yet or what? Wait, is it him or is it Kirk who brings up? Oh, I was hoping for aphrodisiacs.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Oh, yeah. I think it's Kirk who says the word aphrodisiac, and it makes my skin crawl a lot. One of them was looking for it. I don't know. Yeah, if there's one person in all of Starfleet who shouldn't be playing around with that stuff. Oh, all right. Let me cancel my prostitute.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I'm hanging out with you. No, no, it's fine. It's fine. I just need to cancel the service. I don't want to pay for it. When a sex nemesis shows up, you can't drop everything. He's got the apartment of a sex nemesis. That's true. Think about the sex going on in this place. Oh, my God, dude. All sorts of stuff, probably. Did you guys see that little desk with a little computer over there? Yeah, he's got a Commodore, actually. Oh, really? It's like because he collects antiques. So the idea is like you would.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Wow. That is just saying. I like to play. I love to play Pong. Hey, man, this is pretty cool. I've got the Nintendo classic, too. You want to hook that up? You know who Kirk's sex nemesis is? Oh, who? Rodney Dangerfield's love interest and back to school. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:14 What's her name? Sally Kirkland. She's been around forever. Kirkland? Kirkland Light. What? That's a name of a cheap, generic beer. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I've never been fucking heard of it. Costco brand. to beer. Oh, dude, you cannot. Sally Kellerman is that way. There we go. Thank you. So we're talking about like getting older and like blah, blah, blah. Like, and like basically Bones is like what you need, man, before you get too old riding a desk, you need your own command. What you need to do is fire, Spock. I know it sounds like I'm just being a racist thinking that no Vulcan should command the end of prize. It makes me want to throw up. No, no, no, no, Jim Boy, what you need is your own command. All I'm saying, Jim Boy, is that you saw that Cobbite
Starting point is 00:36:02 Ashimaru earlier this afternoon, he's grooming another one to take it over. There's not going to be any room for guys like you and me, Jim, boy. That's all I'm saying, all going to be pointing in. I'm just saying if we continue to have an American captain, you might find yourself with more of this ram you in the nail here. Just a thought. I also love because this is a major motion picture. we can up the stakes in the language department.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Because right here, DeFors Kelly is totally like, instead of flying a goddamn computer console, and I'm like, they're saying fucking goddamn. Eating that harsh shit, Jim boy. Like, they should have really had him go all that. Oh, yeah. He still uses, like, 20th century profanity at all times.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That's the only thing I can really be hoping for from this Tarantino script is that it's just them cursing. Dude, but like, If it's just them walking around fucking fuck this and fucking someone's using the N-word because it's a Quentin Tarantino's script. You have to. You really have to. It's just going to be one of the
Starting point is 00:37:12 it's like, you know what's going to feel like? It's going to feel like a fucking bad sketch. I mean, we'll see what it is. Yeah. It's like an S&L idea. Yeah, here's the S&L bit where they say fuck on Star Trek. Like, I feel like that may have happened. She, he threw you out a window for giving a foot massage.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Exactly. That's what. What I heard, Jim. It's the one that says bad motherfucker on it. Let me tell you what a lack of virgins about. Okay. It's all about this lady that likes a guy with a big dick. Dick, dick, dick, dick, dick.
Starting point is 00:37:48 How many dicks was that? Tell me that you're okay. My name is Kirk and I like to fuck. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. cautiously optimistic. I am slightly optimistic just because I like violence. Here's a letter from Abraham Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Oh, my Jesus. In any event, we cut to the Reliant. The Reliant. U.S.S. Reliant. We're talking to regular one, which has got Carol Marcus on it. Yes. Now I got David Marcus as well. I got some beef, though, with this reliant, this cut to the reliant.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Sure. Because we cut from Kirk's drunken stupor birthday party to the Reliant where Chekhov is vocally giving a log. When we also have perfectly capable captain
Starting point is 00:38:45 Paul Winfield. What the fuck? I don't understand why Chekhov's just not a captain man. Do you know what I mean? Like dude because he is he's a fucking Starfleet lifer dude. He is the guy who's going to work at the multiplex concession stand until he's fucking 55 years old.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Also, like, at least check off. Cup. Sweep up other popcorn captain? At least Chekhov had the fucking backbone to not be like, well, you'll, you could be on the enterprise. You could pretend to blow up for Kirstie Alley. You want to come play war games with us, Chekhov? No.
Starting point is 00:39:23 They didn't call him, dude. Oh, no. Spock did not care for that guy. Boy, am I so glad that little weird. over on the Reliant. I never trusted that weasel. Fucking season 2 edition, who could care? We've not gotten to Chekhov.
Starting point is 00:39:41 This is Chekhov's actually inaugural appearance of the nexus. And I got to say, here's the thing. I think this dude bald from birth, Walter Koenig, bald from birth. A lot of babies are. Point. Now, here's the thing, though. This wig that this motherfucker is wearing. Dude, this guy looks like
Starting point is 00:40:00 he's in the monkeys with this. This thing, it is so terrible. This floppy haircut, dude, this would not cut the mustard with fucking regulation, man. Hey, hey, with a check-off. People say we check-off around. It's just awful. For some reason, I've always got a little, little soft spot for check-off. I like check-off.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I've never cared about tiny, die-hard ever. He's got the stench of Afredo on him. He's a lovable loser, you know? Like when he's being arrested in part four. for being in the submarine. Oh, no, I'm holding the bag, Captain. I am Patsy. It's just such bullshit, though, right here,
Starting point is 00:40:40 because you can tell it's like, well, you know, I was on the show. He doesn't actually talk about that. He's not actually Russian. Sure. But, you know, Walter Cain. Oh, wait, that's a fake accent. You know, in these negotiations,
Starting point is 00:40:50 like, hey, can I fucking do a log? Yeah. Right? But he's like, officers laws. And I'm like, no, fucking Paul Winfield, man. Paul Winfield did Shakespeare. Let this guy give a captain's log for Christ's sakes.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And the reliance job is they're looking out for dead planets for the Genesis device, which can terraform stuff. We'll get into that whole thing. So we find SETI Alpha 6. It's odd that I don't remember anything, isn't it? They go to SETI Alpha 6 and it's there's some life form, but they're not sure if it's real or a blip. So you know who should go, the captain and the first officer? Let's leave the entrance out of it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Oh, just right into the, like so much into the unknown, we need like space suits. It's not even like beam down to like a mostly fine. It's a class M pretty much like Earth planet. This is like, no, this fucking dead rock desert land. Dude, you get a blip on that scanner. There might be some life there. Move on to the next one. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Just don't give a fuck. Let's keep truck. But it's bullshit, dude. This is some, this is some, like, Starfleet laziness here. It's kind of funny because they're like, I don't know. Maybe just something got caught in the device that, listen, can we just, like, turn it off and turn it back on again? Can we scan it again? I don't want to look for another planet.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Check off. Stop trying to make SETI Alpha 5 happen. Okay. How about Mars, motherfucker? Exactly. In the 23rd century, I guarantee you we've colonized that shit. You think so? Of course. Has it been Sean?
Starting point is 00:42:29 in Star Trek? I don't know. I don't think so. I think Mars is just so sort of like old hat. They never want to say the word. It's too local. We don't want to be townies. So yeah, they're going to go down and check it out. It leads me to think like you could run some sort of additional scan or something. You know what I mean? Or just go anywhere out. Go anywhere else. How much dead shit's out there? How many moons and planets that don't have life? Yeah, use a moon actually. That's a good call.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's just a sacrifice of V. Ryle Ensign. It's just like Oliver Reed saying Russell Crow, you don't fight in the Coliseum, I'm doing it. Totally. It makes no fucking sense. So they both go down. Yeah. Because also when the ensign gets captured, you're like, well, that's a shame. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Yep. As opposed to the fucking captain. That ensign, you know, you don't even need to give that guy a funeral. Just move on. It's part of the job. They're wearing these fun spacesuits. It's a big sandstorm. They find something, a structure.
Starting point is 00:43:28 they go inside of it, immediately take their helmets off. I always love that in these things. Let's pop these fuckers off. That'd be awesome, dude. What a twist. Chekhov's head just explodes. Paul Winfield, though, because he's awesome, gets his back on in time.
Starting point is 00:43:43 My skin is on backwards. Takes it off. Looks like the Unabomber lives in this place, by the way. There's like checkers around. There's a copy of Moby Dick and a bunch of other books that have been very... Is Khan not? Space Unabomber. Oh, he could definitely.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Pretty much. It's just he had no reliable mail system. In case you're wondering, recycling is fake. They just hide it. But so he sees, Chekhov sees Botany Bay and he's like, Botany Bay. Botany Bay? Botany Bay. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:44:23 How do you remember that more than City Alpha? Exactly. be like, oh, if you were like, because I mean, here's the logical inconsistency we've just done Space Seed. Checkoff is not on the show yet, but for some reason, they couldn't make this George Decay, which makes so much
Starting point is 00:44:39 more fucking sense. What the fuck? Or O'Hura. Let's get O'Hura, anything to do with these movies. I believe that's illegal, Steve. I'm pretty sure I saw someone online trying to like fill the gap here. Yeah. Oh, well, have you ever... A joke.
Starting point is 00:44:54 No, the fucking... There is a Tribune. DB trivia fact. That he was in the bathroom. Yes. Yes. It is so stupid. It is so stupid. Taking a shit, Captain. The way the trivia tells it is Walter Koenig likes to tell, right? That he thinks they know each other because Chekhov made Khan wait for the toilet while he was on the Enterprise. And when he came out, they had a little encounter or whatever. Yeah. Okay. dude. Okay, that's a funny story. It's $50, please. Next. Next. Next in the Florida Comic Con. Now have I told you the way I think come and Chekhov know each other? You want $50? And meanwhile, Nicholas Myers has been like, yeah, I fucked up, man. Who gives a shit? But like the way they write around it, I think also in the novelization is like, oh, stop. He was like a, he was like a night watchman and he met. like he was in lower rank. Yeah. There's other things I guess that they said that yeah he was like before he moved up to the bridge who worked security detail. It makes sense because like just say you fucked up. It's so because whatever you say it's fucking stupid. Who cares? Yeah. Who could possibly care? Because it's a glaring error. I don't care. It's a space opera stupid thing. I care. Raising my hand, I cared. But I mean what in any event.
Starting point is 00:46:27 He's like, oh, no, we have to leave. This is the point. Oh, no. How did I forget set the alpha six and five? I always get those mixed up. So before they, that happens, Khan, and this really, they go outside and like. It looks like the Jawa's are out there, by the way.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's very Jawa-esque. I love this like Cyclops visor Khan is wearing in the beginning. I want a little more of that. Yeah, that doesn't come back ever. I mean, instead he's got this ridiculous wig. I mean, like, I guess the hair is supposed to be cool and feral, but it's the whole cast this whole outfit all these outfits they look like
Starting point is 00:47:00 they look like the cast of cats before the makeup goes on like they get in the outfits first and then the makeup goes on oh yeah so just all like the scraps that they have clothes yeah totally so we learned that because at the end of Space Seed
Starting point is 00:47:16 he and this kind of doesn't one of the things that I'm holding against this movie I mean it's kind of hard to do because Wikipedia didn't exist and like we didn't have DVDs where like you can really reference it so hard. Right. But like the fact that like Kirk has never really shoved his face in like you're fucking,
Starting point is 00:47:34 you kept this asshole alive, you idiot. Or like you could have put this guy in prison. You could have killed him. But no, you decided to give him his own planet because you had such a big fucking boner for fucking goddamn dictators. Well, these dictators. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I forgot they were all like totally impressed with all of Khan's stats. Spock is disgusted with them. Ooh, a lot of good kills. Oh my God. Look at all those decapitations. And he was from 1996. And that was when he went away. So he could have seen Scream in the theater.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And he doesn't know about the existence of Scream 2 or 3. Or telling me, they made three more scream movies. What left was there to tell? Yeah, they're classics. Have you seen Bott and Fink? it's a trip man it's a trip the reservoir dogs
Starting point is 00:48:29 was life changing for cinema so the scream two forest gum I cannot get over pop fiction I cannot get over I cannot do it
Starting point is 00:48:42 that's his first words out of the fucking tube but in any event so he's like oh you know well he's going to this he's like I have you my little friend
Starting point is 00:48:53 check off and then like they're like also fucking like exacerbating this error is con going you I never forget the face shut the fuck off you're making it worse but this weird thing where it's like oh you think hold on you think this is city alpha six oh city alpha six this is city alpha five city alpha six you want to go down to the corner you want to go down you want to go down See that gas station? You're going to go way past that. That, you're going to pass that. That's going to be upon that to sit the alpha six.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I want to see what I did by then. The fuck does he say, haven't it blew up? It blew up and it fucked up the orbit of the planet and turned to do a barrenness. This is set the alpha five. Oh, man, the gravitas that Ricardo Montalban brings to this role. Oh, it's just epic. And the chest.
Starting point is 00:49:46 That's, oh, my God. He's also mad that Kirk never came to visit. he drops that in there it's like your captain never bothered to check in on us at the end of Spacey though Spock is the one who's like maybe we'll come back
Starting point is 00:50:00 in a hundred years and see what's up a hundred years Jesus well I'm a Vulcan I fucking live forever fuck you is it like a wookie or Yoda they live a long time they live a lot longer that's why they can kind of yeah
Starting point is 00:50:12 I forgot about that because he's like hanging around with the next gen cat the cat's not like not like bones where he's a catfish and that first No, that I like. Now that I like.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah, he actually still just looks like Spock, but an old man. Yeah. So, you know, I sent like four or five letters. They never came back. And yeah, I'm pretty upset about the whole thing. Honestly, yes. I had the whole infrastructure plan. What do I do with that now?
Starting point is 00:50:42 Dust storms forever. Well, that's what's weird because it's like he doesn't leave him with any resources. It's like just. get the fuck down there. And, you know, you're basically starting from nothing. If you have no technology, like, what are you going to do? He had, he had, he had, like, 80 beefcakes. He did.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So that is, like, you, that is technology to me. And the lady there, uh, the 90s cultural expert. Right. And she, she was supposed to be in this movie, but she's a little too sick to do it. So they kind of killed her character off. And it's kind of, they killed her character. They didn't kind of kill her character. My wife died.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Which is good. It gives them more motivation. Yes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I think it's like the motivation. The whole, like, you didn't visit and left us for dead, whatever. No, no, no. You didn't visit number one problem. I mean, I'm- I'm super happy. She lost her job.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I've had these decorations for a housewarming party. Not been able to throw because no one has warmed my house. Now, here's the thing that's always been kind of incredible about this whole situation. and I don't know if it's actually Khan has plotted this whole thing up very carefully because I think what it is is he's just flying by the seat of his pants
Starting point is 00:51:59 like he's a super genius so it makes sense but like this is really impressive this whole orchestration which starts of course with ear fucking oh of course we get these little fucking he's what does he say he's like these are the only like animals that survive or whatever and it's like
Starting point is 00:52:16 this disgusting puppet it. It's like watching the dark crystal or some shit, these disgusting puppets. It's very return to the Jedi who was the same guy who did the the creature effects return of the Jedi did this as well. It looks very much. Yeah, this is all tattooing stuff here. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:32 You could look at this, you could put a voice to this thing, do it, how's it going? Ow, my back. Quit poking me. Watch where you're stepping. Give me back my babies. Yeah, you're just stealing these little fucking slugs off of this thing.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Oh man, it is disturbing. Which I love it. It's disturbing. It's really cool. Before it starts fucking them in the ears, though, they kind of just look like little anchovies. And then I just started thinking about pizza. You open up the seamless act. Like, how late is it? Yeah, I was, dude, I was doing the fucking math.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I was like, eh, oh, that's too late. Put some pizza in your. Oh, man, look out. But they're, that's not the Ninja Turtles do it. Really? They're incredibly painful. mind control things sure. Because they start like
Starting point is 00:53:19 wrapping themselves around your brain and it's Star Trek. Yeah. It get bigger and you go mad. It makes you more suggestible or whatever, yeah. All right. First, take your clothes off. And now you, the bigger one, start
Starting point is 00:53:37 doing the little one. No, no, it's going to be great. Relax. Don't do it. Where do it? Where do it? off help him help him Paul Winfield's like I did
Starting point is 00:53:50 Shakespeare and he's I mean both of them are selling this Paul Winfield's really I'm like I don't want that shit in my ear
Starting point is 00:53:57 like he's like really freaked out oh yeah well because he's an actual actor and the other person's Walter King he's like
Starting point is 00:54:04 I've never had the pleasure of meeting the admiral of course yeah he's pissed about this promotion too oh yes
Starting point is 00:54:11 how else can you fall up but to be James T. Kirk So we kind of get back The Enterprise is going to go on a three week training mission And the Admiral is just going to inspect Everyone's on the fucking thing
Starting point is 00:54:27 We go out We meet up with Scotty And apparently Scottie's nephew Which is something that I didn't know What? Wait, the guy that comes up later is Scottie's nephew Is he? Scenes deleted, my friend
Starting point is 00:54:40 Doesn't count then Oh no, it doesn't But it does not fucking count But it makes some sense of what happens later in the movie He was also selling underage liquor on T.J. Hooker in one episode. Oh, really? So it's nice to see the crossover there. Hey, kid, you've got some moxie.
Starting point is 00:54:58 There's a ridiculous. They're taking like a shuttle to the enterprise, which is great because it allows for a beautiful shot of this enterprise model. All the shit in this movie just looks so good, especially on Blu-ray. Like, it really cleaned up nice. so it's it's bones Sulu and Kirk I believe is who are on the shuttle here too
Starting point is 00:55:19 she is she is she is yes so they're going up and they're like they're just kind of like talking about like oh being back at the Enterprise or whatever and I think this is where Kirk is like I don't think these kids can steer oh that's because he's like well why do you need me here I don't think these kids can steer
Starting point is 00:55:34 yeah and it's like you know what man stop degrading like the Starfleet Academy right here that's essentially what you're doing like oh these fucking kids Do you see who's teaching them these days? Look at, it's Spock. They let Spock teach these kids. I don't think they can steer.
Starting point is 00:55:50 What are they going to call millennials in those days? Oh, yeah. What is the next term? Ultra whatever is or something. They're ruining the stuff. They're always looking at their tricorders. Can't even talk to them. The zappers.
Starting point is 00:56:04 These ultra zappers are ruining Starfleet. Less ultra zappers are learning to steer. Did you hear that? I read it with their Romulan smear toast So they go to like They're just gonna go out and do like a little run and come back I will say the only reason O'Hura comes up He's got this copy of a tale of two cities
Starting point is 00:56:24 He dresses down the whole cast And all he does he gives O'Hura the book to hold And I'm like dude That's not her job Look it's like a walking bookshelf And like that's like the most she does in this movie I'll take her a stand still I'm going to pull out a edition of the
Starting point is 00:56:41 Wall Star journal from you but I'm sorry yeah so they go out it's gonna take three weeks to just kind of go around you hear this line here though where like they're like
Starting point is 00:56:53 so you know where should we go or whatever and Kirk goes Mr. Sulu indulge yourself yes Captain you mean right here like it's just what dude
Starting point is 00:57:05 tell this man where to go please but also in space you could go literally anywhere oh well you know things have been really at the Sulu house and I'm kind of down, what with it being winter at all? How about right into the sun, suicide
Starting point is 00:57:18 mission, goodbye. You said indulge myself, you are going to indulge my suicide. I guess I'm a little bit more innocent. I just thought they were going to cut to him doing the Tom Cruise dance from Risky Business. No, I'm going to kill everyone of all. I have real problems in this movie.
Starting point is 00:57:33 I'll be doing that dance in hell. So the Reliant, by the way, context of Reliant. Quite easily. Yes. Because I think Paul Winfield's like, hey, I'm the captain. Stand Down. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, the captain can't be mind controlled. Oh, wait, what? Yeah. Uh, check off. Again, why isn't this fucking Paul Winfield? I hate this.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I fucking hate this. Or make him the captain. That's the thing to be. Yeah. He doesn't deserve it to be. But if you have to, because you want him to do all this stuff, you have to make him the captain. Because it makes no sense that he's doing all this shit. Yeah. Why wouldn't Paul Winfield, captain, whatever the fuck, be. directly talking to this person. They should have just made him captain. I hate it. They call I hate Chekhov. They call regular one and Nicole and Nicole, what's her name? What Marcus? Carol. Carol Marcus and David are working on the Genesis device. Carol Marcus, by the way, played by B.B. B. B. Bish. This is not the first B. B. B. B. B. B. Bish movie we've done. Really? If anybody can go back in time with us a little bit. Okay. She is the love interest to one Joe Don Baker in the pack. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yep. Also, rest in peace. She passed away in 1996. So on the screen, which she died 96, presumably, maybe she went into space with the botany bank. I guess that is possible. But it's great to know. Her sex nemesis is where Joe Don Baker and William Shatner. Yeah, what a life.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Great company to have. Those are high markings. That's like being Scorpion and Sub-Zero. So, yeah, he's like, oh, and I kind of don't understand this. Well, no, I guess it's to lay the trap because he's like, we're coming to take the Genesis device. And like, no.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And he's like, yes. No, yes. And then because, and this is, I mean, Khan is such a fucking genius man she's like hey person who's not the captain of the reliant but I'm talking to you anyway who gave this order
Starting point is 00:59:49 Admiral Kirk gave that order so you better believe she gets on the horn starts fucking screaming in Kirk's ear about all this you're goddamn right I did you need me on that wall it's kind of great though because she says you know who gave this order
Starting point is 01:00:06 Mr. Chekhov there is such an I'm lying pause right here. He goes, the order comes from admiral Kirk. And like, dude, you're under mind control. Just say it. He's like looking off to the camera, there's like
Starting point is 01:00:24 fucking Ricardo Montoban's got cue cards and he's trying to shuffle him. Well, he forgot his rank. He's like, Gen. Nope. Lieutenant. No. Oh, yes. It's like I'm on Saturday nightline. The cue cards.
Starting point is 01:00:40 um so savick is sort of like given the uh she takes the helm right here there oh no this is oh this is the elevator scene oh the elevator i love this like kirk gets in the fucking turbo lift and she's in like a federation 90 or something i think it's a karate outfit it's a space it's a space gie uh she's been doing space karate is the uh technical term for a karate outfit yes that's right yes karate just letting everyone know that they were both She's the one years old. Both correct. But yeah. And then it's just a weird like, oh, you know, Admiral, can I ask you some questions about the Kobayashi
Starting point is 01:01:16 Maru? And he's like, if it gets us closer to bedtime, fine. Well, he's also says, oh, you're wearing your hair differently. She said, well, that's inappropriate. She actually just says, well, it's regulation. So go fuck yourself. Making your fucking comments. It's not 1960s anymore, buddy.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Man, I like the hair regulations. We should get more into that because apparently anything goes. But if you're a man, you need to have that weird. sideburn? Yes, you desperately need that weird sideburn. Also, you're in huge trouble. And if you can't grow facial hair, dude, they fucking glue it on you. Excuse me. Do you have buxie sideburns
Starting point is 01:01:49 on my bridge, mister? But there's a great... Little daggers or bust. I don't think there's any... Sulu executive. There's no mustache. Or no, Duhan. Anything goes. Anything goes. But that's only old Duhan, though. Young Duhan does not
Starting point is 01:02:05 have the stash. Well, I'll be an engineer. But then where in a mustache. You're going to have to fucking rip it off me. Rip it off my fucking Canadian face. It's a good thing
Starting point is 01:02:19 no one sees you down there at the warp core. Maybe that's why he's like, all right, fine. You can have your mustache, but stay down there. I don't want to see that fat ass up here on the bridge.
Starting point is 01:02:28 You're like a bridge troll. Stay in your cave. Captain, could I have a mustache too? Just try it. when the door is open I was listening to some I was listening to the load the other day
Starting point is 01:02:46 and I was thinking about getting me one of them metallic goatees so the door of the elevator opens back up and it's fucking great because it's more
Starting point is 01:02:57 bones profanity he's like who's holding up the goddamn elevator which he's calling it an elevator which is hilarious and it's a turbo lift
Starting point is 01:03:05 it's a turbo lift yeah she walks out Bones just goes She changed her hairstyle I'm supposed to jerk off to that So He does get a call from Carol Marcus
Starting point is 01:03:19 Saying you know Why did you take the genus Away from us? You doctor should know the danger Of opening old wounds That's what he says to bones right here Right because bones says When it rains it pours
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah making jokes Oh I love it Love this movie Kirk has to let everyone Both Spock and both in on what the Genesis device is and does before they get there because now they have to go intercept
Starting point is 01:03:43 whatever's going on in regular one. We have this fun computer simulation of what the Genesis device is. It's a terraforming thing that can... Looks like Star Fox we're playing. Oh, yeah. Good luck. Boo, boo, bo, babbub. Enterprise.
Starting point is 01:04:00 There's an awesome thing here, though, where there's an exterior shot of regular one, great, like, space station model. It's near this planet and everything. and they don't do this a lot in Star Trek it's this exterior shot of this space station and you hear all the scientists arguing for like a very long time
Starting point is 01:04:18 before it cuts to the interior it's a great flourish here I like it a lot and it's kind of cool because they're really they're putting the hat on the federations of the military we do not want this to be a military weapon like you know what I don't know like hey look I don't want this to go up with Klingon's asshole
Starting point is 01:04:34 I want to fucking you know make something nice year this is where we get a lot of David, who is, we learned to be, is played by Merrick who is Kirk's son. And actually, it's good casting. It is a lot like him. Because Merrick Buttrick naturally
Starting point is 01:04:50 had that curly hair. Oh, really? I was about to say they both have a perm. Well, no, because William Shatner is wearing a fucking dead chihuahua on there that they put the microwave for a little bit. Dude, this piece is disgusting. Oh, hot. Better put this piece in the fridge for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Don't touch the shell. baby. Oh, my hair is proofing right now. Would you like to gleam the dome? They just, they found an actor who had natural hair to William Shatner's hilarious Chia pet artificial hair. It's like fucking Greg Brady
Starting point is 01:05:22 in the 70s shit, dude. They just like, they chopped off all the roundness of it and just made it like, it's not exactly a flat top, but it's like, it doesn't go beyond the width of his skull, but it goes up. Yeah. It's in
Starting point is 01:05:37 reminded Khan of Barton Fink He looks like an obese Kramer Now Jerry will tell you that Rath of Khan is the better picture But I like
Starting point is 01:05:50 Search for Spock Yeah but yes This is when Bones Kind of has This kind of fun Bones indignation Of like Oh it's the Genesis
Starting point is 01:06:02 Devise It's gonna wipe out humanity We're doing You do it God did six days? What about six minutes, you motherfucker? Bones
Starting point is 01:06:11 is fucking right. Are you kidding me? This is a terrible invention. And, of course, Spock is being logical. Well, it's like, you green-blooded son of a bitch. We finally get that this week, which is great, green-blooded monster, you know. I think this is particularly where it's like,
Starting point is 01:06:27 you green-blooded half-breed. And then it's like, whoa. It says inhuman at one point. Oh, yet, you inhuman. Which is great because then, at the end of the movie when Kirk is giving the eulogy
Starting point is 01:06:39 he says, human. He calls him human after bones, slurt. Well, it's not really a slur because he's not really
Starting point is 01:06:47 a human. Well, that's inhuman to me. Wow. 100% are boss. Yeah, dude. Really? What if the guy was like half gleepclops?
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yeah, what if it's like a half man, half dog? Well, that's a werewolf, I think. Well, isn't that okay? No, that's clearly inhuman. It's a monster.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That would, you know, that would be, that would be the move because I mean first of all this movie does if I will ding this movie on one thing
Starting point is 01:07:12 it doesn't have like creature effects you don't even aside from the monster like Kirk's son should be half monster like it's this monster lady that he fucked way back in the old she looked at a fish
Starting point is 01:07:24 and it's this fish boy with a curly hair on his head oh yeah or at least like a green skin individual or something or con from the whatever the mute you like because you know
Starting point is 01:07:35 city alpha of six got destroyed. Maybe he got mutated and he's got like a little quado baby in his belly. Oh shit. Like it comes out. This is what happened to my wife. She's under my t-shirt. Yes. Yes. And then like it's got a whole human head and little baby arms. We didn't talk enough about Khan's physique. It is fantastic. Gorgeous. And apparently it was real because it does almost look fake sometimes. Because it's so fucking perfect. Do you think he was working out with Stallone? Like going to muscle beach? I think it was
Starting point is 01:08:06 a thing where he was like, I got to be on the love boat, man. You know, you never know on the love boat. Fantasy Island. Or Fantasy Island, excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But he was on Love Boat too. Mr. Rourke. Whoever. That's, that's Fantasy Island. That's what I think he was still doing. Yes, he was. No, he was definitely doing Fantasy Island. I don't know if he did the love boat as well. I could be just mixing up stuff. But either way, like, listen, you're on an island or you're on a fucking boat. At some point, you might have to take your shirt off. That's true. I think it's more
Starting point is 01:08:34 of like the American Psycho workout. Yeah, like porno blaring in the background Just doing Orno blaring Mechanical pushups Just like over and over again I can do a thousand now I was wrong
Starting point is 01:08:48 You're totally right 154 episodes of fantasy Although credited in one 1980 episode of the Love Boat Where he played Horse Race Annancer Oh wow This horse is riding around
Starting point is 01:09:02 Perdition's flame I will say Ricardo Montelban also amazing on Freakazoid A couple episodes He plays the bad guy It's a great voice performance It is fucking laugh out loud
Starting point is 01:09:13 How about when he squares off With Detective Drebbin Oh right He's in the files of police squad Yeah He's very funny in that movie too He had just so much presence It's just so like
Starting point is 01:09:26 It's always amazing man And the bummer of this movie also Is it he doesn't have a scene with Kirk Like you know what I mean Figure that it's kind of fun It was because of fucking fantasy island Oh well yeah It's right
Starting point is 01:09:35 schedules work. They were FaceTime and did they not even read lines together? I don't know. He said it was a script girl. It was him and a script girl. I mean, it works really well for that. It does. You're going to need to get me a fatter script girl. Could she have a poodle
Starting point is 01:09:52 on her head? Could she have a smoked for 30 years? So we were like, oh man, that Genesis device sure can't get in the wrong hands. But before we get to SETI Alpha 5, we do, we're on our under, under attack from the rely or we meet the reliant we're not sure what it is what's going
Starting point is 01:10:09 this is this is an awesome scene though because it's like all right they're not responding to any these hails they have no idea what's going on this is a fucking federation vessel it's i mean it's awesome because like in this this happens so infrequently and literally all these movies is really fun and cool ship to ship submarine to submarine kind of stuff and that's exactly like nicholas meyer talks about in his book like his idea was he wanted to make this like a Horatio Hornblower kind of master and commander type these are boats warring with each
Starting point is 01:10:41 other kind of a thing. He had another the enemy below I think was another subframe movie yeah which I mean it makes sense because that I mean and that's that is why I think this face timing stuff as much as it would be really cool to have that
Starting point is 01:10:56 heat scene maybe they go to a diner to get in you know one day I'll be coming around that corner they are neutral zone dinah right I had coffee with Kirk Half an hour ago But like no I mean like
Starting point is 01:11:11 But it works because it's like It is that thing where like That's how space battle would work You wouldn't talk to each other You wouldn't exactly Would be in two different ships It makes you realize One of the problems
Starting point is 01:11:22 Or just like A flaw with Star Trek I mean it's Star Trek So that's their thing But like everybody keeps picking up the phone Yeah Like just ignore them And it's terrifying
Starting point is 01:11:32 But I can imagine Kahn being the kind of maniac that would like if if you know god forbid kirk ever like actually retired and like actually laid down somewhere he would come five more film appearances after this he would come to his house even just to like move in i'm your next door neighbor captain oh that's a sitcom absolutely well all right well well to do to achieve this double date we'll have a detunt on arrival, as they are to stewardesses.
Starting point is 01:12:07 That would be amazing. Like, Khan barely survives this encounter. And then he's just like, he just hasn't seen any love. Like, take him under his wing. I need to get this guy late. They moved to San Francisco. Now, by double date, you mean we both get two, right?
Starting point is 01:12:25 A quadruple date? Oh, yeah, man. Two by two. What's awesome, too? I love the detail because they also they kill all the crew of the Reliant
Starting point is 01:12:37 Kahn's fucking superhuman people and they're hilariously like kind of wearing the uniforms of dead people like they sort of have jackets slung over their shoulders kind of a thing
Starting point is 01:12:48 it's pretty nice blankets half the time which is amazing it's just like it's a little chilly all right I know how to fly this starship but I can't find
Starting point is 01:12:55 the heater well he even starts with saying that it's an old Klingon proverb captain where revenge is a dish best served gold. It is very gold in space.
Starting point is 01:13:06 No, literally, quite gold. Freezing my huge tits off. Could anyone get me a t-shirt? Dad said to stop fudson with the thermostat. So then they fucking, it's a great moment. They raise their shields. The Enterprise can't raise theirs in time. And the Reliant lights these dudes up.
Starting point is 01:13:28 It's a great. It's so awesome. And what I love is also the more submarines, stuff is you do, I feel like maybe it's just because I watch it so much next gen. Whenever that happens, you just see, we're just shaking the camera and everyone's just, oh, walking sideways,
Starting point is 01:13:43 walking sideways. But like people are blowing up downstairs. Oh, yeah. They're trying to like climb ladders and all sorts of fun shit. Engineering gets fucked in the face twice in this movie. And yeah, it's this first one. You just see dudes flying off ladders getting blown
Starting point is 01:13:59 from here to Kingdom Come. It's crazy. And like, you know, so that happens then we then we are talking ship to ship uh spot comes up but i don't remember who comes with the idea is like if you get the prefix of the reliant it'll be able to hack into it before yes they do hack the ship which is great but before it's revealed that it's con yeah nischel nichols does get to have a cool line here because she's like sir it's the reliant uh they want to talk about terms of our surrender yes and she's just like i can't even believe I have to say this. I can't believe
Starting point is 01:14:32 the enterprise under the stewarding of Captain or Admiral Kirk was caught with their pants down. First, let me put down these nice big gallons of Diet Pepsi. And then I'll say my line. Um, yes. Kirk's seeing
Starting point is 01:14:50 Khan. It's fucking great. He's like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. It's a great thing. Khan? Yeah. This guy. I thought I left you for dead. So, how's city alpha five? What's civilization looking like on there, bud? How are you guys doing?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Oh, what happened? Bummer. Oh, the burns all over the ship. Oh, that's nothing. That's nothing. That we weren't hit. And you never came to visit. Not a letter, not a postcard, not a phone call. Hold on, Khan. Don't be an asshole here.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I'm pretty sure I sent you a letter. I asked my girl to say, Oh, I'm going to be so mad at my secretary. I am going to, you know what, Khan, I'm just sick over this. She's fired. Consider her fired. And I have you done for a yearly fruitcake, mister.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Wait, you haven't gotten those? Oh, there's a backlog of fruitcakes. Would have been nice to at least gotten a Christmas car. It's also really great right here. There's a fucking, I don't know what is going on with this take that they use, but Ricardo Montalban is like talking and he's talking over the view screen and he's like
Starting point is 01:16:04 he basically is telling them like he wants he's demanding the Genesis device and it's basically like a we have to get the he fucking looks off to the side as if he's like line oh there's definitely some Genesis device
Starting point is 01:16:19 what is the Bush oh the Genesis the life giver no sorry I'll ask my boy We need that device immediately and it better have Peter Gabriel Not just Phil Collins The whole set
Starting point is 01:16:36 I want the whole set The early years This So the Enterprise gets lit up and everything Scotty in a move that makes no sense Thank you I was about to bring this up The door is open to the turbo lift And Scotty is holding this dying kid
Starting point is 01:16:54 In his arms And it's like Dude Sickbay is like two floors down. I'm sorry. You were fucking fired. He could have been on the, Kirk could have been on the phone.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I've got other, I'm trying to save everyone, not just this one kid, Scottie. Exactly. I don't understand that at all. It's a weird move. It's like a move,
Starting point is 01:17:12 Chris, take your headphones off. If you had a bad roommate, uh, and like he left like, you didn't give me long enough to take off my headphones. No,
Starting point is 01:17:23 no, no, but no, but no, if you had a bad roommate, like there's pizza in the fridge. Yeah. would go to his room with the pizza that, like, is crusted and disgusting. I'm like, dude, you want this fucking pizza?
Starting point is 01:17:33 It's gross. And then you'd throw it out. Like, you would make a big, it's a big passive, aggressive, shitty move. Right. Look what you did, you little jerk. Did I eat your pizza? No, no, no. But he's doing the fucking death of a family, the Batman death of a family cover.
Starting point is 01:17:48 He's going to hold him robin in his arms. It's just like, what are we talking about? Who is this kid? What are you doing? Scott? He's out of here. You're fired. But then it's so fucked up because he,
Starting point is 01:17:57 we cut to sick bay and the dude's like oh is everything all right captain i think i'm dying like and he fucking bites it right there and bones puts the blanket over his face it's like hey scotty that precious 10 minutes man right to the doctor did he does he doesn't kirk say warp speed yeah i don't know what this is oh i think the guy's like probably like crazy like dead crazy i think i'm going to die whoop speed right to the devil mister warp five to the devil we need the air uh but yes they hack the there's this weird thing with if you have the prefix of the other control console you can hack it and they lower their shields and then now they're shooting them up yeah now we're lighting up the reliant oh yeah
Starting point is 01:18:44 fuck you buddy and there's so much it's kind of great there's this other guy this like uh cons number one oh tom petty he does he looks exactly like tom petty he looks like tom petty and kevin sorbo had a kid Oh, yes, absolutely. He's got like a weird name, too. It's like Juxon Smith. Yeah. I think he's Judson. It's the hardest call the conqueror.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Man, combo of both. Petty left us fucking Sorbo's still farting around, though. That stinks. Did anybody read the trivia about this guy? Oh, it's kind of funny. This is my favorite thing about this. I did not. Please illuminate.
Starting point is 01:19:19 The guy is not credited for the role. Right, right, right. Because his agent fucked up the deal. completely to the point where they didn't have to fucking give him credit for it. That's amazing. Yeah, you fucking fire that guy.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Because he like turned down the office like, oh, we'll give you whatever billing. No, no, we'll pay you. We'll pay you to be in this movie, please. Your billing will be second co-star. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no, no, not for my guy. It's like, okay, so then we won't credit you? Like, go right ahead.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Don't credit this? Okay, we won't. We're just not going to credit you. Say, say, say, can't you put him under stunts? Well, you see, you did a typo. in the contract and you said coat star. So we don't actually credit clothing.
Starting point is 01:20:03 He's technically under wardrobe now. No, no, not wardrobe designer. He's not getting that credit either. No, no, we're just talking about like a physical prop. Not a prop master. You are a prop. Wow. Hey, how about this though? Cabin.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Yeah. This dude, so the actor Judson Scott is his name. Cabin. He is, I can't recall the character, but he's in your favorite movie. Blade playing a character named Palentine. I would imagine that's probably one of the older vampires
Starting point is 01:20:32 in that movie. Oh, yes. It's a nice vampire name. That's a good vampire. Also, three episodes on a... Palantine, yeah. Three episodes on a latter series run on the X-Files.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Oh, nice. Playing Absalom. Do you know who, speaking the stunts in this video? Who was a stuntman on this film? No. Your best friend? The shape, George Wilbur.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Was he really? Oh, that's cool. Hey, you know what? Hey, my face. Exactly. You stole my face and I'm going to wear yours. It's face off in Rath of Khan. So now that the reliant is all fucked up, they have to go lick their wounds and fix their shit. And what we were talking about this, not the guy. This guy is like, Judson St. Whatever his name is. Scott. He's like, listen, we've got the jet. They're not going anywhere. Could we not do this? I know that this fucking 60 year old dude is like your big boner, but like we got a ship,
Starting point is 01:21:33 we can go wherever we want. Yeah. We can get fucking laid, dude. We can get laid. I could use a fucking indoor toilet. I can have a house. But no, I'm hung up on my dead wife.
Starting point is 01:21:43 That's not as big as my bono. And my boner is cook. So they do want to put in those little fucking like sandworms in his boners or like wraps around. It goes into your head and your other. You know, for an older man, it is very difficult to maintain and keep an erection. So this is a little, little worm here goes around and around. It's like a biological cock ring. Now, every time I ejaculate, I create a demon.
Starting point is 01:22:13 I only ejaculate half of it because the rest of it feeds the beast. So we have to, the reliant has to like clean their shit up. This is when, you know, we're, we're counting the dead and all that. shit here. And like basically they go to regular one to investigate. And again classic Star Trek move, man. Who are you going to send down? It's fucking Kirk, Bones, and Savick. Savick, I guess makes sense. She's like sort of a lower tier, lower
Starting point is 01:22:42 ranking officer. Why not just send the engine of the ship? How about you send them? Put that in a suit and send it out there. Me, Spock, Bones, Scotty, and the Warp Corps are beaming down. the most important things on your ship put them out there all right Corey put on this red shirt
Starting point is 01:23:01 now it's an XXXXL goddamn maniacs okay okay and then I'll wear all the the excess oxygen we have bring that as well
Starting point is 01:23:11 so yes but they go but at least they have the good grace and intelligence to leave Spock manning the ship you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:23:19 like somebody who could do something is doing it this is one of my favorite scenes right here because it's it's twofold. One, because it starts off hilariously
Starting point is 01:23:28 and then ends horrifically. They're all walking around. They're like, where the fuck is everybody? This is supposed to be the science station, what's going on. Bones get spooked by a rat. Oh, yes. Which is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:23:44 And then immediately bumps into a bunch of hanging corpses. Dude, like the predator was in town. This was my favorite movie of 1980. I do things, just like the predator. After hours is underrated Scorsese. Oh, that's why he wears his hair like that. He wants to look at the predator. It's also why he's so cut.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I wear a fish net under here. Want to see it? We meet up with all these dead people. We find... We meet up with all these dead people. We meet the Marcus's. Neiman. No, that's a bad joke. Carol and David. And also Chekhov and Paul Winfield are there. And some other
Starting point is 01:24:35 extra scientists kind of around. Chekhov and Paul Winfield are on the science station still. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. They're like But Carol and David aren't. They're down to the planet. So this whole thing of like where the fuck is everybody? That's right. And then it's like, oh, well, there's these caves or whatever. And they do, it's another great bones being scared about beaming because they're like, all right, we just, they're on the planet, but they're underground.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yes, they've gone deeper underground as the Prophet Jamiriqui prophesied. So Bones is like shitting his pants about beaming through solid Earth or whatever. And they beam into this like hollowed out cave area. This is where Merrick Bunktrick and fucking James T. Kirk, William
Starting point is 01:25:17 Shatner have this fucking fist fight. And it's Kirk just punching his son in the stomach. It's the only Star Trek fighting you get this movie, actually. I mean, because everyone's fucking old, you know. And we're all fucking talking on FaceTime. Yeah, it's all naval battles. But then Paul Winfield
Starting point is 01:25:32 and Chekhov pretend that they are no longer under Khan's command. Right, right, right. But then they're like, oh, we are double criss cross applesauce. And Paul Winfield is ordered to kill Kirk, but somehow has the fortitude to kill himself. Well, also, no, first of all, he blasts
Starting point is 01:25:51 one, some other dude. Yes. Other's extra scientists. It is an amazing kill. Wow, do you talk about erased from existence? Holy shit. Kill Kirk. Well, that's my middle name. So I'm allowed to kill myself in this situation.
Starting point is 01:26:05 You're right, though. The one blast, like somebody pulls Kirk out of the way or somebody jumps. And this dude's like, what? Tegan sent to the fucking fandom. So, dude, it is just not even anywhere in reality where this guy goes. It's great. And so he, Paul and Field. blast himself. We get that effect again,
Starting point is 01:26:25 which is great. And the sound design here is crazy because it's like Paul Winfield, like, you know, turning the phase around himself. He lights this thing off and you hear like, as he just disintegrates, oh my lord. Oh, that's what you heard? I heard. Ah, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:26:43 And then Chekhov just has like a migraine and falls over. His bug falls out. Like, wait. No, I was told by Con that that's going to choke his brain. He goes crazy. Then he dies. That's what I was told. Yep. Well, it's fucking bullshit. This character sucks. Well, yeah, nepotism
Starting point is 01:26:58 even goes over to the eel creatures. Well, well, Chakoff knew Kirk longer than Paul Winfield, right? Sure. So the resistance killed the worm. Yes, okay. Because of his loyalty to Captain. Well, he is, he does
Starting point is 01:27:14 have a thing where he's like, I'm sorry, Captain Admiral. Actually, my Vig is actually interfering with the command of the bug. That is right. Get out of here. You don't understand what the Vig will do.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Oh, yeah, dude. Now the Vig is calling the shots. It's like that episode of the Simpsons. It's walking around. It's got a gun. I'm sorry, Captain. The Vig wants to kill you too. Six Sampatarayas.
Starting point is 01:27:46 The Vig hates your Vig. It's like two dogs smelling each other. So we're kind of walking around. We get a, there's a fucking classic William Shatner line right here, and it's obviously overshadowed by, because this is the scene where he screams Khan. Yes. But there is a line where
Starting point is 01:28:04 he just goes, there's a man out here. I haven't seen him 15 years trying to kill me. Fucking awesome. It's like him on fucking Twilight Zone. I mean, I feel like most people who haven't seen Kirk in a while want him dead. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Harry Mud. Yeah, that dude.
Starting point is 01:28:22 dude's out for blood. Most of those god creatures. Him and Han Solo, both. Clint Howard, he wants him dead. Ew. Man, imagine they brought back Clint Howard. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Keep him in like a diaper. He's just been a space baby this whole time even though he's grown. And it's just like that that Hurtzog, Doc, the land of silence and darkness or something when the, is my, am I saying the right title? Yeah, but are there diapers in that?
Starting point is 01:28:49 Yeah, when there's a giant baby, there's a dude that's like in his 20. but he's been raised as a baby because his parents never actually helped him. Well, because he's, he's like blind and deaf. That's what that movie's about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that movie's hard. That's a hard watch.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I'll say that, dude, that is a hard watch. I always get the title confused with the one about like the oil fields. Because I think they both have darkness in the title. I think, but Clint Howard at the state that we're looking for, it would be more of a nothing but. Trouble-esque. Oh, Jesus, that's even worse. Diperscapade.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Oh, Jim, we're in planet Vulcanvania. Oh, it's, it's the hump-de-dumpty gang. Oh, I love that song. Do the hump to dump. Come on, do the hump to dump. Kirkke kept on asking if I wanted a hot dog. Wait, hold on. We're going to stay till the end because the digital underground is performing.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Holy shit, is that Chupac? Oh, that is exciting. Let me beam down. We'll call it a truce. I want to see Tupac play. Nothing but trouble would be a much better movie if Ricardo Montalbaum showed up to beat the shit out of Dan Aykroy.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Yes. Oh, totally. By the way, you're thinking of land of silence and darkness. Yes. That's the movie. So we do get the famous. God! Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:18 It's great. This theatrical trailer kicks ass by the way. It's really, really good. The trailer. The trailer is really good. Because they do the con yell in it. That's like something like the editor was like, oh shit, that's going in the trailer. You know what, guys?
Starting point is 01:30:31 I don't care. It's going in the trailer. Trailer moment. Because it's also, it's that sort of cut around with the, uh, I'll chase him around the galaxy and blah, blah, blah, blah, around perdition's flame until I fuck that fat man up. Off the shoulder of Orion. Do you get any, uh, james? Jim Kirk ain't no Boy Scout.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Oh, no, yeah. I feel like that would be a good one. Yeah, I don't think it's in there, but that that isn't very, I think they were trying stuff out. Like, maybe that's a trailer line because, yeah, his son is like, well, Jim Kirk's no boy scout. Oh, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:06 So, I mean, like, they're kind of getting to know each other. Him and this woman, him and Carol Marcus kind of catch up a bit. They sort of hash it out. And Kirk is like, I did what you asked. I stayed away. Yeah. But this dude, David has like this negative impression of Kirk is like this cowboy piece of shit
Starting point is 01:31:24 kind of guy. Not totally unwarranted, of course. But so it's kind of great because Carol Marcus is like, Hey, David, why don't you show our new friends the Genesis room? I'm going to talk with your dad for a bit, but we're just going to stay back in the parking lot. Go show him your toys.
Starting point is 01:31:41 And he's like, all right, fine. Come on. You want to see the Genesis room? Oh, no. We're trapped on this planet. I guess we're going to have to repopulate. Well, I'm going to have Savick because She's under 30. Carol, I guess you have to have sex with bones because I don't go that way. Or David, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Either way. Don't bother with the catcher's mitt. Hey. Come on, little lady. Don't you want to talk about corn? You know, the band, Jonathan Davis, amazing American composer. They had a bassist named. I don't remember
Starting point is 01:32:23 Wait a second It's coming to me now Was it head or monkey Both of them were in the band One of them became a born-a-cran Christian Anyway, they died many moons ago In a big bus crash Fieldy that was it
Starting point is 01:32:41 Oh Fieldy was definitely in corn They did So there's this weird scene where a Spock kind of calls Kirk he's like Captain you know Because of interference we can only get you in two is we're going to do things by the book. We can only get you in two days and that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:32:55 But it was all in code, you guys. Oh, yeah. Two days meant two hours. That's right. Oh. But Kirk's not letting anybody else know that. No, no, no, no. Play in close to the best.
Starting point is 01:33:04 So we're back on the Enterprise, thank goodness. Well, hang on a second, man. We see the fucking Genesis cave. Oh, that's right. Yes, this hollow earth. It's awesome. I think I saw a taradactyl flying around. I mean, it's great.
Starting point is 01:33:16 They're like testing the Genesis device on this cave. And they terraformed it. She said it took like hour. Where's the booze trees? I was promised booze trees. Kirk's like casually like chomping on some fruit in this scene too. Yep, they got the hollow earth. They've discovered the hollow earth down there.
Starting point is 01:33:34 And here's the thing about it, buddy. Nobody's going to report this. But the mole people, that was a genocide. I'm going to have to get my son Tyrell. Yep. I have a son named Tyrell. I bet you didn't know that. And Sean Stone, that is Oliver Stone's son, who is also on my television program.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Oh, no. What? Yes. That is insane. Jesse Ventura had a TV show. Yeah. On the internet. On Russia today.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Oh, my dear. With Sean Stone and his son Tyrell. Yelp, named after Blade Runner. Don't think too much about it. Yeah, I get it. They were sort of the bad guys in that movie. I just thought it was a cool name. I'm going to get all my famous cook sons in one room.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Got Oliver Stone's son. Alex Jones's kid is going to be there. Roger Stone's son's going to be there. I'll be honest. I do ask about the turtle a few times. I think Oliver Stone's never made a bad movie. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but World Trade Center was my favorite movie of whatever year that came out. I especially loved the part where Nicholas Cage saw the Lord God.
Starting point is 01:35:00 I mean, the Wolf of Wall Street was eaten off of W's plate, if you ask me. God, double you. James Cromwell is George Herbert Walker Bush. That's some great casting, buddy. Hold down. I elected another George Bush. Commit suicide. I go away for a couple of hundred years.
Starting point is 01:35:26 You will go ahead and erect another George Bush after the first one was a piece of shit. I thought maybe Bob Dole, sure, but another George Bush. Here's a question about the Genesis cave, by the way. Where's that fucking sunlight coming from? I mean, I don't know what. You catch this light source in there?
Starting point is 01:35:43 Is this a big spotlight? Ed Harris is controlling it? I don't get it. more light sir more light so anyway yes we get beamed back up and you know is this whole like oh I meant two hours
Starting point is 01:35:58 gotcha so we're gonna cat and mouse here kind of the you know this is kind of the third act here it's weird because Carol Marcus is like so important this movie she's like well goodbye movie I'm a woman I'll just be downstairs with O'Hura braiding each other's hair holding a bunch of books and coax
Starting point is 01:36:15 I got your birthday presents for when the movie's done So yeah, it's man time now And like basically like Khan is all rested up He's ready to fucking blow him away But they still don't have warp drive So they can't fucking get out of there So the move is we're gonna hide in this nebula Which leads us to
Starting point is 01:36:38 I believe this is And it's gonna be awesome to hear My Bad Impression say it anyway I think it's Sulu goes Or maybe it's Spock, who cares? Nebula penetration in 2.2 minutes. Someone's penetrating something in two minutes. Jim Kirk has said that on exactly 50 days.
Starting point is 01:37:00 The Reliance is chasing behind them, chasing them into the nebula. I'm not saying it wasn't. All right. Sorry, we're going nebula town. This guy again, cons number two is like, do we have to go in the nebula, sir? I think this is the part where he's like, dude, the fucking ship is fine, man. Let's just go. We got the Genesis device.
Starting point is 01:37:21 We could sell that or something. Spring break, motherfucker. They got a fucking ship. They've got the Genesis device. They can do whatever they want. They can go make their own planet somewhere. They could shoot it at fucking Earth. He's like, sir, this is your old friend, Joaquin, talking here, man.
Starting point is 01:37:39 I am thinking about getting the Beaver Patrol back together. And we're going to create this planet. to create our own spring break. See, Jim is already seeing for, Kirk is already seeing forward to fucking Mountlebaum fucking moving in next door to him in the future. If he lets him go now.
Starting point is 01:37:56 If he lets him go, he will come back. How will we ever become wacky neighbors? This is the I will chase him to perdition's flames. Also very important to note that if they go in there, the shields will be useless in the nebula. Sure. Also, hey dude, sure. You know what? Whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:14 man, whatever the fuck ever. I mean, it's fine. It's just funny. It's just, you explain it away with some Star Trek magic. It's fine. There's a great thing, though, and I know they're not saying this, but doesn't it sound like they're calling it the Motaro Nebula? Yes. I think it is the Motara Nebula or something like that.
Starting point is 01:38:31 It's close, but not, but it should just be the Mortal Kombat character. Oh, definitely. The Midori Sour Nebula. Oh, that sounds delicious, Jim Boy. You know what? I'll do a spacewalk for that one. By the way, does anyone want to see my dead room and I get Scotty, get that guy out of here. It's starting to
Starting point is 01:38:49 smell. Look, but now I put him in a freezer and it's kind of like has the jack built and putting them in fun positions. I've got to dress like Weekend at Berners. I've got a little blue windbreaker and little black sunglasses. Oh, you're doing a great job at the console nephew. He's pulling a cord and the dudes waving. Oh, God damn it. You took all my Hawaiian shirts. Jim boy. Weekend at Bernice, I remember that. Oh, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I remember the sequel, too. I was around for both. You know, Kirk, I was the president of the Jonathan Silverman fan club. I love Cadizhap, too. Gun! Gun! You know, the single guy was better than... Seinfeld. Just
Starting point is 01:39:45 the saying. God! Jamie, he's mad. Seinfeld is a classic American television show. My favorite character's Newman. My second favorite character is the puffy shirt.
Starting point is 01:40:06 I don't want to be a space pirate. So, yeah, we're going to the Nebula now and also like they're neither one's camera is working so we can't really see where we're going or how to shoot. Great use of minimal score here too. Yeah. I mean, the score is great all the way through, through and through. It's awesome, but they use it really well here because it's like dead silent. They're like, where are you good? Yeah. And then there's a great shot where like the viewer kind of fixes itself for a second. It's like, oh, fuck, we're going to ram them. And that's what like the music comes back in. It's so perfectly
Starting point is 01:40:37 choreographed. And like we're kind of getting shots off on each other, et cetera. Khan gets hit car hard again, man. They keep fucking slamming this dude. And the Enterprise also gets hit and someone bursts into flames. Oh, yes. Because again, dude, engineering is getting fucked in the face in this movie.
Starting point is 01:40:56 All right. I'm going to bring up everyone who's dead. Everyone stay up there on the bridge. I'm getting a, I'm getting a dolly. And the superhuman guy that keeps on warning con is just like, he gets hit. Yes. And then he's just like, I told you so.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Well, because it was my side was like your superior intellect, which is like, fuck you, you ass. Exactly. I've been following you for 200 fucking years. And I told you, told you to lay off 10 times. You know, I'm superhuman too. You know, we're all superhuman, you know. Exactly. Also, this last round of hitting here, the Enterprise, the warp course starts leaking. Yes. Which is very important. So then Khan on his like kind of last, you know, he, he's all. burnt up now. He kind of looks at the phantom of the
Starting point is 01:41:43 opera a little bit. Dude, he looks like, this is great that you said that. Because it's, imagine this combination. He looks like if Roy Shider played the Phantom of the Opera. Because like, Roy Shider famous for that fucking sick bass tan. Yeah. But also like
Starting point is 01:41:58 because Khan, you know, it's Ricardo Montaubon like it's his actual face. He's a wrinkly old guy. But for all of these burns and shit, they put this weird like they flatten his face. Yeah. So it looks like kind of older, tanned plastic surgery, Roy Scheider, it's
Starting point is 01:42:14 very weird. Well, because the burn has more of a slop look to it. Yeah, I, I, I, you know what? If you're burning a face, it's got to be a dry burn. I don't, I don't need a wet burn. Well, especially with those bangs, I would be like, oh, my, oh no, my bangs are burned into my forehead. Now I will
Starting point is 01:42:31 fucking kill you, Gark. From hell's heart, I stab at these. Oh, absolutely. We're quoting some Moby Dick right here. And it's fucking awesome, because what is he No, no, no, not just engage the self-destruct mechanism. He engages the Genesis device, dude. Oh, man, not only am I going to blow this ship up. I'm going to make both of us a planet.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I'm going to turn into like a bunch of squirrels or some shit. Like the end of the Sonic DeHodge. It would make a planet. It would just like blast the nebula and kill everyone, right? But it's literally what happens. It makes a planet when it goes off at the end of the place. Does it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:09 What the fuck are you talking? Where the fuck do you think? spot goes. Oh, right. Yeah, he lands on a planet. That Khan made. That's Planet Khan, baby. Setti Alpha Khan. You're resting on my balls. Doesn't make a lot of sense. No, it doesn't. No, to your point, yes. I kind of had that sort of logic problem last night, too, where I'm like, no, where is this? Because the idea is you take a dead planet, you make a real planet, because that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:43:34 You don't make a planet out of, you don't make a planet out of a nebula. That's not what the film told me earlier. I'm cool with it. I mean, it's all fine. It doesn't matter. So he sets it off. And much like my favorite movie into darkness, something's wrong with the warp core. And the only way to save it is if somebody goes down there
Starting point is 01:43:54 and fixes it. And this one, this is ripping off into darkness in a huge thing. It's kind of a huge problem for me, honestly. Spock goes down there in this. What? Yeah. Come on. I'm glad you brought it up. I'm glad you were saying something. the shot of Spock like realizing what he has to do
Starting point is 01:44:14 and making the decision knowing full well the consequences and just getting up and leaving the bridge without saying anything fuck is that awesome it is so what a moment of heroism in this movie it's great like well fuck it I'm gonna die today he goes down there and Scott is like the fuck am I gonna do
Starting point is 01:44:31 so James Duhan is breathing into this fucking respirator mask like he's just run a marathon. He, Bones like, I can't go in there, Spock, you're gonna die.
Starting point is 01:44:44 And he's like, oh, he's like, no human can live in there. And like, he has this great line. Yep. As you know, as you're so fond of telling me,
Starting point is 01:44:52 doctor, by the way, I'm about to die. I want you to feel like shit when I do. You've been riding my ass for 30 years. I'm walking in there because of you.
Starting point is 01:45:01 All right, Mr. Get ready to get your fucking ass lit on fire. Are you ready? There's a suicide. note in my quarters and you're all over it, mister. It just
Starting point is 01:45:12 says, Bones did this. Hit Control F on my suicide note. You'll get 40 hits on bones. All right, here it comes as you're so fond of reminding me, doctor,
Starting point is 01:45:28 I'm only half human. Control F for Kirk. Okay, oh, zero results. Oh, I'm good. I'm in the clear. The entire of my will goes to whoever kills you
Starting point is 01:45:42 nice Spock's millions better third movie by the way I've got a death warrant on 12 systems they don't like you either buddy but no he gives him the nerve pinch
Starting point is 01:45:58 and he goes in there and he's doing all this remember yes he gives him the nerve pitch and then he gives him the which apparently was a reshoot because they wanted to like
Starting point is 01:46:07 give their a way out, which I don't think is super I mean, it works, but it's not super necessary like it's space magic anyway. I feel like this is movie so smart setting this all up because it's like if I'm just watching this not knowing search for Spock, it's like, well
Starting point is 01:46:22 that's that's that, but like it's amazing that these little nuances add those ways out. It's, it's a good telegraph, but it's not too strong. Exactly. It's also ripped off when data uploads himself into B4 at the end of Star Trek. MIS's just as an FYI.
Starting point is 01:46:38 So yeah, he's doing all sorts of some space gas cop, dude. Sure. He's lifting all this stuff. He doesn't even really, like, kind of say goodbye. Kirk is trying to get away. He's like, we need that warp cord now, Mr. I'm doing my best and we'll also be dead in four minutes, you fat, fuck, hold on.
Starting point is 01:46:57 That's right. I have minutes to live and I'm telling you like it is, Kirk. Fucking finally, it's so freeing. Oh, don't you think it's just bones in there? Oh, you're all over it, mister. Remember when you fought the gorn? I wished for you to fucking die that day. Well, technically soon it will be just bones in that warp unit, if you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:47:22 He's dead. So. Get it, he's dead. So they do get away. And he's, wow. They're like, oh, man, Scotty, you did it. One more magic trick. He's like, oh, not really like, Captain. You better get down.
Starting point is 01:47:38 here like real soon. No, dude, it's bones. And it's fucking great because it's like, because he's yelling at Scott. He's like, Scotty, you did it. You did it. You did it. And Bones just goes, better get down here. Better. Hurry. And you're like, oh, God. That's like, that's the fucking phone call you don't want. I'm about to forget all Spock's consciousness. I got to tell you the whole time. All the booze carts crashed. And all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all. Also, Spock is dead. That's bad news, Jim Boy, there's a whole lot of gray goose all over the containment unit here. I'm crying my eyes out.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Also, the mess hall has stopped selling hot dogs. Can you believe? Oh, by the way, Spock is dead. Oh, my crates of Romulan ale poured out over the, oh, yes, the Spock is dead. Oh, Jim boy, look at this. Oh, my CD collection melted. He, like, grabs him the whole. Don't go in, Ledger, boy.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Don't go in there. There's all the corned bee's ashes all over the floor. And also, yeah, Spock is dead. But that's the... My signed copy of Fowler, the leader, melted. Also, Spock's dead. I lost my pen and also Spockett. It was a special...
Starting point is 01:48:59 Also, my special single vinyl of Got the Life. It's melted. Boom, jicca, big a jilloo, boom, jicca, boom. also Spock's dead so he does go down there and there is it's a great Scott Scottie Latt he's like he's dead already
Starting point is 01:49:18 oh yeah dude oh Christ that's tough and you know Spock is behind the divider you know he's in the warp core room and it's like and it's just like ship out of danger oh yeah and he's kind of doing like a dady divino penguin thing at the end of this movie
Starting point is 01:49:36 I just need A cool drink. Captain. Yeah, it's, I gotta tell you, I was crying. It chokes me up. I also get choked up in inner darkness. I know it's stupid.
Starting point is 01:49:54 It's so stupid. The performances are good enough. It's manipulative, but it's fine. What, in Rathocan? No, in interdarkness. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, we're just fucking ripping it off. Ripping it right off.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Like a bandage is rip it right on. Steve, I heard that that's one of the movies you're not supposed to like. Oh, yeah, dude. How dare us? Yes, the internet. You're not supposed to like that. Lens flares.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Yeah, those are... The internet says, you're not supposed to like that. I like it fine. But yeah, so, like, he's dying. I have been, I always shall be your friend. Holy fucking tits, dude, not a dry eye in this room. There's a piece of trivia, which I totally believe. It's probably fake.
Starting point is 01:50:35 But was it also Spock was making someone wait for the back? and that's how he recognized somebody. Kirk, or I'm sorry, Shatner takes credit for he was the one who came up with the idea to put the the hands to the hands and glass. But he's like, my idea
Starting point is 01:50:54 was actually better. It was going to be where you couldn't, where it was actually an opaque screen where you couldn't you could only see Spockin' silhouette, which I totally believe. Hey, what if you didn't see that son of a bitch? And it was only my face. I bought a Christmas ornament
Starting point is 01:51:10 of this scene. Oh, I wanted that. Oh, I've seen. Wait a second. That's real? Yes, it was going around the internet. They're like, can you believe they would actually make this? And I saw it and I researched and I'm like, I'm buying this immediately. I've always just seen it. I thought it was like somebody fooling. No, dude, it's real. Wow, no fooling. It's got sounds too, like buttons you can press.
Starting point is 01:51:27 What does it say? It does a line from the movie of like, you will always be. Nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're just crying on Christmas. That's just. Hashtag crying on Christmas. It's fucking great. That's sad. That's very sad. It's one of the stars of my tree.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Um, so yeah, he, he passes away. Yeah. The makeup here in blue, the makeup here in HD is not great. No, he looks like, uh,
Starting point is 01:51:54 there's a movie. I believe it's called like, I was a teenage zombie or something like that. It's like a cheap zombie movie from the 80s. They shot it like fucking, like out and like Nyack and parts of Long Island and shit. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 01:52:07 and the zombie. makeup is fucking horrendous in that movie and it looks exactly like this. It's just like, put a couple of green things here and yeah, that's radiation poisoning. You got like eczema on your face. That's what he looks like he just has a skin condition. A very mild skin condition.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Yeah. So we are now putting, what do you call it there? It's a Spock's funeral. He's in a big sunglass case. It just says Oakley on it. It's like Mark 6. It's like, ooh, the nuke. Oh, this has the new coffin's eyes.
Starting point is 01:52:37 love it. And also like, you know, have a living will where it's like, could you not just dump me on a planet that was just made? Like, I'd rather send me to Vulcan send me to Earth. Like, also could my mother be involved in the ceremony? No, dude, this is like Spaceman. You're just getting
Starting point is 01:52:53 dumped at sea. It's just like the Navy. We took on too much weight. So, what I think is wholly inappropriate about this is James Duhan playing the bagpite. I totally agree. Like Spock hated the bagpice. Of course he did. There's no more illogical instrument
Starting point is 01:53:10 than the bagpipes. I hate all music, Jim. I don't know about that, Steve. The fucking recorder is pretty useless. Well, we have one request in Spock's suicide note. Oh, this is the crash test
Starting point is 01:53:30 dummies. It's a classic. Although, what's this is a subsection here? What's this? A article 7. Definitely no bagpipes once there was a kid got into an accident and couldn't come to his good health but when
Starting point is 01:53:51 he finally came back hate found pot box all over he bite good god And not a dry eye in the house. I don't know if that's in order even. I mean, I'm not crying over bagpipes,
Starting point is 01:54:13 but I'll cry over. All right now, where have all the cowboys gone? You know, Jim Boy, here's a question I had for Spock right before he died of radiation poisoning. What if God was one of us? You know what I'm saying, Jim Boy? Just a slob like one of us.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Yeah, he's looking at you. Like a stranger on the bus, Jim boy. Kirk's just looking out into the cosmos after they've shot and Spocked out and Poens comes up and he's like How bizarre! How bizarre! So Kirstiali's crying here
Starting point is 01:54:48 Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. She's a Vulcan, but like There's her favorite professor. She rated him high on the, what was it? A rate my professor. So you could rate like if they're hot or not. Well, she'd get, she's a hot professor. Right before the funeral she gave him five stars.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Like, you know, sir, you've earned it. Well, I was reading something, I don't know if it was on Wikipedia or the Tribune or whatever where they're talking about because like it's there's three instances in this movie where she shows emotion, it's there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:16 It's when Scotty brings that fucking soon-to-be corpse up. And then there's another. Kobe Ash and Maru. She says, damn. Oh, right. She says, damn. And they're alluding to like, she's quietly Spock's daughter.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Oh, really? Yeah. What? Yeah. I think that's what the Tribune was saying. That's a fan theory, my friend. I mean, like, sure. I believe that just as much as I believe
Starting point is 01:55:37 Chekhov held up the fucking bathroom for con. Well, the trivia I read was that there was a, there was a presentation of this where Leonard Nimoy would talk in between in like the commercial and he would do, one of the parts was him explaining the character's background. And he said that she's half Romulan, half Vulcan, which wouldn't that make her a vampire?
Starting point is 01:56:00 I think that does. That automatically makes you a vampire. So they should. shoot him out on this fucking, you know what? He always wanted to be on a fucking deserted planet where no one could visit his fucking coffin. Dude, because, listen, it means it lands somewhere. If you
Starting point is 01:56:13 just, like, ping out into space, you're just going forever until you hit something. But also, like, what is, I mean, I guess it's the Mark Six, so it's good. Oh, you want the Mark Six coffin. When they shoot it at a planet, it will not pop open. It is sealed, closed, Mr.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Even on, the Mark, the Mark Mark V's looked at were a disaster. They were a total disaster. It's like a real Beth with the muck five. They work on gaseous planets. I know it doesn't make any sense. They do work. This is the Cadillac a coffins kid. So the end of this
Starting point is 01:56:45 movie, well there is the Great Bones line of like, he's not gone if we remember him. Right. And also, I mean this is, Kirk gives that fucking eulogy man. Of all the people I've known. Yeah. Oh yeah. Souls I've known or whatever. His was the most human. And I'm losing
Starting point is 01:57:01 it all over again. And there's a great scene with him and David they kind of bring that back in all right he says I'm proud to be your son which is a great woman get ready to get murdered by the Klingons he was the most human which is better than any other species
Starting point is 01:57:16 out there across the universe even his own and then when his son dies he was the most Vulcan I'm really confused never forgive them for the death of my boy there's a weird I mean it's good but it's
Starting point is 01:57:33 kind of whatever, where they're like, you know, or McCoy's like, you know, Jim, are you all right or whatever? And he's like, young. I feel young. Yeah, I kind of like that line. I mean, it's thematically, it makes sense. But it's also, it is kind of like, you know, I feel really young at my best friend's funeral.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Man, I feel top of the world. Well, think about it this way, man. Think about how young Kevin Costner's funeral made all the people in the big chill. That's true. Everyone's getting laid that night. that's right dude they go back to kirk's fuck pad they're listening to hurt it through the grapevine they're all dancing making dinner you know i've got a shot at savick tonight i'd be a fool not to take it absolutely i feel like a young man again and then like kirk commits insider trading with scotty or whatever happens in the big chill con i need well no con's dead but anyone got a line on one of those worms makes my erection last i have to wrap it up literally
Starting point is 01:58:32 So we get another choke up. You get the fucking the opening monologue there, but it's done by Spock this time. Oh, yeah. The second you hear that, which I believe they let him do. It was a ghost talking.
Starting point is 01:58:48 At the end of one of the Abrams movie. Trivia said it was a ghost talking. Oh, that is. He's a Star Trek Beyond ends that way, probably. One of the newer Star Trek movies, I think, also ends with him doing it. Star Trek Beyond's really good. It is good.
Starting point is 01:59:01 It is good. It's just, it's obvious. just a weird 90s action movie wrapped up in a big Star Trek, but I'm okay with it. And it's not like, hey, remember the Rathcon, here it is backwards. You know what I mean? At least it's like an original story.
Starting point is 01:59:15 Yeah. What if the Star Trek world, just hear me out. Had a bunch of motorcycles into it. Just make Star Trek mission impossible. But that movie also, dude, because that movie came out
Starting point is 01:59:30 like right sort of like right after Anton Yelchen died. Leonard Nimoy had died dude I was fucking crying in that theater during the credits. Holy tits dude twice. It's a movie full of ghosts. He finds out that
Starting point is 01:59:46 like Ambassador Spock died so like Zachary Quinto's like oh that fucking sucks and I'm like oh god they killed him he's dead twice now. I'm so pathetic. Yeah, yeah, it chugged me up. Definitely choked me up. But yeah, he says that, and they make some changes to it.
Starting point is 02:00:04 It's like the continuing adventures of the Starship Enterprise Roads. Give us another movie, please. Yeah. Well, it's because Kirk has some line where he's like, by the way, we'll have to come back to Genesis and see if Spock sprouted yet. Because he has a captain's log right here. And it's something about returning to Genesis to check it out. Well, then, you know, maybe we'll come back in a hundred. years to see what's going on.
Starting point is 02:00:31 No, then they cut to it and there's this shot of the capsule that Spock is in. Frank Sinatra starts singing, fly me to the moon. Is that the end of space cowboys? That is indeed, the end of space cowboys. You love
Starting point is 02:00:49 Space Cowboys. We like Star Trek on this show, but you love Space Cowboys. It is honestly maybe the stupid stupidest astronaut movie ever made. It's fucking 10,000% to stay tuned, except I'll say, unless it's Scott Eastwood and then it's cheating. But I don't think it is the guy that they have playing young Clint Eastwood in that movie is, it's fucking spot. Oh, don't they dub the voices? They dubbed the voices.
Starting point is 02:01:14 It's the stupidest fucking thing. He actually looks like it. Nobody else looks like James Garner, Timberley Jones. Who's the fourth guy? Oh, Joe Pashy. Donald Sutherland. Oh, Sutherland. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:24 You see his buns in that movie. Yes. We got Sutherbuns. We got Sutherbuns. I'm pretty sure. He fucks. Southern Buns fucks. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Would anybody like to smoke some space pot? Maybe I'm mixing it up. In any event, yeah. That's the movie man. And it's the fucking best Star Trek movie. Fight me on it. No, I mean, that's just almost objective. It just is what it is.
Starting point is 02:01:47 You know what's interesting to me, though, is I believe in the last few years, search for Spark has had a little bit of a re-eval. That would be rules. It's good. I've always, I've always, my favorites of the TOS air have always been too, three and six. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I'm a two, three, one, six.
Starting point is 02:02:04 I'm a sucker for four and it's only because there's time travel. Four is good. Four is good. Four I used to not be as into and watching more and more lately in family function settings. I've gotten really into it. Also, because it's got a great environmental message.
Starting point is 02:02:20 So that's a cool thing that like Nimoy was very passionate about when he directed that movie. I'll do your fucking movie. We're saving the goddamn whales. Gotta save something. It worked for Superman. It's got to work for us. So we'll continue sort of how we do, we're doing the We Love movies situation with this because we don't normally recommend, you know, Nexus shit. But in this case, does the Rath of Khan hold up and how often do you revisit this movie?
Starting point is 02:02:48 I mean, it totally holds up. I mean, the special effects look great. I don't know. The Blu-rays weren't up special affected. I didn't think so, but a super fan and friend of the show, Drew Stewart, tell us what's going on with that, buddy. Yeah, because I think that they look gorgeous. They look gorgeous. They look gorgeous. And they seem very period accurate. I love the aesthetics.
Starting point is 02:03:06 I mean, the aesthetics are fucking for days. Like, I thought like watching it last night, I was like, wait, when was this? This is like late 80s, right? No, early 80s. 82. This movie helped like establish science fiction for the decade. Also, it's the same year as Blade Runner. So it was.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Shit, we're not the best science fiction movie that year. Yeah. But fuck. It's neck and neck. It looks really great. Both of those movies are amazing. I mean, I've only seen this twice. I probably want to see it every couple of years now.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Like I'm definitely, I was way excited to see this. And now I'm kind of like, when can I watch surface for a spot? I might find some time next week. Do it, man. Go right in. It's great.
Starting point is 02:03:47 Chris? It's great. I mean, it was immediately my favorite one of these after seeing it from start to finish. So that should speak. And I mean, yeah, I remember seeing parts of this when I
Starting point is 02:03:59 went through. I have seen all the other ones all the way through. I just don't know what happened when I watched this. Probably bad gas. That's possible. You had to turn it off because you had bad gas. It's possible. Like, well, I'm farting through this movie. I'll have to watch it. Every time I fart, I stop a movie. It's true. Space Gus Captain. So, and all the model work is really good. Everything looks good. Yeah, very good. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 02:04:29 is fantastic. My in-laws are Trekkies. Oh, nice. So every Christmas, we usually at least watch a couple Star Trek movies. You know, it's not always the wrath of Khan, but, you know, I would say every two to three years, I definitely re-watch this movie and it's great. Is there, and it can go both ways here, is there a movie that either you or the in-laws suggest that, like, the other party would immediately shoot down? Like, no, I'm not fucking watching. or is anything up for grabs
Starting point is 02:05:02 are you talking like TNG movies too Abrams shit? TOS online okay yeah okay yeah
Starting point is 02:05:08 but I might now I might want to do search for Spock after this now yeah yeah I mean obviously it holds up
Starting point is 02:05:16 and it was weird because I love these movies I've seen the search or I've seen Rath the Khan probably 50 times
Starting point is 02:05:24 it's a weird like I growing up had this and part five on for some unknown reason. I think I just found them singularly, like in a coconuts and just bought them. I've found them. But yeah. Did you say coconuts, Jim?
Starting point is 02:05:42 I hadn't revisited this in a long time, so it was nice. Because I read Nicholas Meyer's book a while ago and sort of watched it then to kind of get in the mindset or whatever. But that was years ago. So it was nice to revisit. I think I'm going to turn and search for Spock on like as soon as you leave. I have the box set of the TOS movies. Ditto. It's a great boxing. A lot of fun. So that is, oh, oh, oh, what's going on? A little addendum here. Oh, an addendum. Steve Sadek with a slash fiction here. Sadek surprise. I've got, uh, I want to do a little toast. Uh, we've just wrapped up. Oh, my God. Wow. This is, this is, this is. Steve Sadek just passed around little maker's marks whiskey bottles. We're not being paid for saying makers marks, which by the way, which is a,
Starting point is 02:06:29 which is a problem. I had to buy these at the liquor store and I felt like the world's biggest alcoholic because only alcoholics drink these. A little nip to get me to the job site. Because the guy was like, he was trying to sell me. He was like,
Starting point is 02:06:42 dude, you know, you can buy like the half pint and it's gonna, it's gonna be cheaper and it's more liquor. I was like, no man,
Starting point is 02:06:49 because I got friends. And he was like, yeah, friends. You call your demons friends? That guy was laughing at you and you left the store. So no,
Starting point is 02:06:57 what is the occasion? The occasion is we just finished probably the biggest month in the show's history. We've been doing this for eight freaking years. And everyone listening right now, by the way, we'll get a drink. Get it either legal or otherwise. Yeah, we'll wait. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:07:16 But we would not do this show without you guys. We're doing this on the $8 level only. But, you know, it means a lot. This show would have ended a long time ago without. Oh, yeah. Patreon and all the people. Oh, yeah. write in and do stuff like emails or fan art, all that fun stuff.
Starting point is 02:07:32 I was so ready to walk away. Oh, Eric gives up really easily. I can't open mind. But no, so that and plus honestly, this show, we're all in our mid-30s now. It's hard to do. This year was like the biggest year of the show. We had to add another episode a month. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:07:47 We've never missed a broadcast date. We've never, like, failed a deadline that has to do with everybody in this room. Let's congratulate ourselves on every episode. That's for this episode. only, and I will toast. Thank you, Steve. But also, I will, because people are paying for Star Trek-related content, I will do this in a Klingon toast.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Oh, my God. Here we go. This is, gurd your loy and sucker punch. This is, may your blood, it translates loosely into, may your blood scream. Ooh. Which is, ladies and gentlemen, listening, thank you all. You will,
Starting point is 02:08:22 you will, jac-ch-chage. You will jac-ch-chage. You will jack-chage. Evil Jack Chaws was a friend of mine and you are no evil jackshaws. Evil Chop House. Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:40 That's good stuff. So thank you for continuing to support this weird thing. That's what I'm just going to call it, man. It's a weird thing. You know, it's bizarre. We never expected any of this. So honestly, thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And until next month, I'm Andrew Jupin.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Stephen Seda. Chris Gavin. Eric Cisca, drinking whiskey. Rock Chaj. Romulan Ale. That was a hate gum podcast.

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