We Hate Movies - S11: Unlock the Vault - Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Episode Date: August 10, 2021On this special unlocked Patreon ep, it's the December 2018 episode of The Nexus, our Star Trek recap show, when we covered the greatest Trek film of all time, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan! Go back... in time and listen to how we raved over Shatner's wig, fawned over Ricardo's chest, and cried at Spock's death! PLUS: Can we all be buried in sunglass case-looking torpedo coffins? The Wrath of Khan stars William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelly, James Doohan, Ricardo Montalban, Nichelle Nichols, Walter Koenig, George Takei, Bibi Besch, Merritt Butrick, and Paul Winfield; directed by Nicholas Meyer. The Nexus is a WHM Patreon-exclusive show where the gang chats about one episode of TOS and one TNG each month. And every now and again, they throw in a lengthier discussion about a Trek film! Catch WHM on tour this fall! WHM Merch Store Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Well, happy summer vacation one and oh, Chris, well, happy summer vacation one and all.
Chris, I told you, when you're doing my back, don't, don't, don't.
circle it. You've got to go down.
Look, do you want me to do it or? I mean, I'd like you to do it right.
Can you stop kicking sand as well?
Look, I have to get my jollies somehow.
So kicking sand at you is the only way I got. Okay, buddy.
We're in a, we're in a sandbox in the Bronx right now.
Dude, that's exactly right. It really smells like pee.
Orchard Beach steer clear. Absolutely, dude. My feet got all sorts of holes in a
But I, you know, I started to feel really good after I stepped on that one thing.
Totally. Plus, we're getting all that fucking friend.
food that's out there. I love
that. No, of course, welcome
to one of our summer vacation episodes.
That's right. Even We Hate Movies needs
a fucking break every once in a while.
But you know, a lot of people are not
hip to this program. We also do
called The Nexus, which is on Patreon.
Patreon.com slash
We Hate Movies. And this is one of our
movie episodes on there for The Wrath
of Con. We've done a few of these now. I think last
year we did a three-hour episode
on Star Trek 2009. We've
done First Contact. Yes. And on the month
basis, what we're doing is an episode of
the original series and
the next generation. That's right. If you
sign up on patreon.com, there's a brand new episode
right now on, or
coming out this month on
we just did a fun episode on The Bonding
and a very racist episode
of the original series. Yeah,
the Omega Glory episode.
That's right. But this, yeah,
this is us on the Nexus
talking about one of the fucking
all-time great Star Trek movies. Star Trek
to The Wrath of Khan, directed
by Nicholas Meyer.
So, yeah, that's about it.
We are on summer vacation, like we have said,
for the next few weeks here.
But also, just real quick,
while you're sitting around, clicking around on the internet,
downloading all sorts of stuff,
after the summer is over,
we are prepping.
One of the reasons we have to take so many weeks off now
is to really get our minds right.
That's right.
Because this fall, we're going on tour.
The mindset.
This October, the WWF, I almost said.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Get another prick on the beach, you lush.
Actually, I might be hitting one of the guys with a chair at some of these upcoming dates.
October 13th will be at Hilarities, Cleveland, Ohio.
I think I'll hit you with a chair there.
Nice.
We're doing a nightmare on Elm Street 3, the Dream Warriors.
You can hit me with Freddie Kruger's skeleton.
I'll get you from the turnbuckle, though, Eric.
Well, yeah, October 14th will be at the Pittsburgh improv talking taken.
My God, it's taken.
Are those tickets might be taken?
if you sleep on them. That's right.
Better shake them bungs over to the website.
After that, we're at the Majestic
Theater in October 16th talking about Robocop
3. Fuck, yes.
Yeah, I'm very excited for that.
Talking Robocop in Detroit, which is
Robocop's hometown. I don't have to tell you.
I've only seen the first one.
I've got blackout drug for the last year. Does he
eat Detroit-style pizza in any of those movies?
No, I don't think there's any. That's a false
conversion. No, but in the one we're going to talk about
Detroit, though, dude, he fucking flies.
and you can see them strings.
And then, you know, a month later, November 18th,
we'll be at the comedy zone in Charlotte, North Carolina,
talking under siege.
Fuck, yeah.
Talk to the captain on that one.
Why don't you go talk to the captain?
November 19th, the Orange Peel in Asheville, North Carolina,
talking junior, which is the movie where Danny DeVito
impregnates Arnold Schwarzenegger.
And Emma Thompson just kind of looks on shrugging her shoulders.
I shit out the baby, Danny.
Oh, no, I told you to pull out.
November 21st, we'll be at Zanies in Nashville, Tennessee, talking footloose, the movie where they banned dancing or something.
Yeah, they make it illegal dude by penalty of death, I think.
That's right.
This guy's shooting people.
He's tossing progressive soup cans at the kids dancing.
Get the fuck off the dance floor!
And finally, December 9th will be at the Bell House in beautiful Brooklyn, New York for our 10th.
10 year anniversary show, one year late.
That's right.
And details on that show, TBD.
Yeah, we're going to figure that out.
Come to multiple shows.
You know, I saw some people dipping.
Like, people, I'm so excited to go to Cleveland and Detroit.
You should do both.
I'm encouraging it.
That's pretty right on.
And just since you're listening to this, we want to reveal some information.
Today, we actually just...
We're actually doing this.
We just recorded for this year's WLM.
It's a full episode, full-length movie episode.
We're going to release a two-and-a-half-hour episode on Generations.
That's right.
Yeah, Star Trek Generations, which is a better movie than a lot of people give it credit for.
That's right, but not better than the one you are about to listen to us talk about.
This is us from a while back talking Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan.
We'll see you next week.
Step into the
Nexus with his loyal Patreon subscribers
and welcome to a very
special edition of the program. I'm Andrew
Jupin alongside the whole gang, Christopher
Cabin, Eric Siskin, Steven Sadek.
We are here to talk about Star Trek
2, The Wrath of Khan
from 1982, directed by Nicholas
Meyer. And of course, this is
part of the We Love Movies Month
here, December 2018.
We recently did Space Seed on the program.
So this just seemed like
a natural thing to do to jump
on up. Talking about the best. Talking about the best
Star Trek movie ever made. Yeah, and
as true in true
Nexus form, we're going to do first contact
right after this. It's going to be a six-hour
episode. No.
Nobody's got the stamina for
that, or the patience audience-wise.
I think the next time we end up
doing a we love movie situation, I think
that's a natural idea is to do
contact on the Nexus.
The line must be done here.
Jean-Luc blew up the damn
shit. Oh, man, Alpary Woodard rules in that movie.
I don't know. Although generations doesn't
enough credit. That movie is really good. I haven't, I haven't gone back to generations in a really
long time. I need to reinvestigate. Could I interest you in William Shatner making an
enormous omelet? Because that is, yeah, that's true. In generation. It's a big omelet and then it gets
buried under a pile of rocks. Like I'll know what. That's a good way to go. Like Uncle Buck
size. Oh man, William Shatter with a fucking giant giant shovel flipping of egg.
It's a dinosaur egg. Would you like something?
Hey, Britt. You want an egg?
Man, that's another movie. I'm an overdover. You watch his Uncle Buck.
Oh, yeah. It's been a while.
Can I, a quick story about Nicholas Meyer, by the way. One, if you can read the book that he wrote about his whole experience making this movie, it's fucking awesome.
Including shock of all shocks, by the way, Shatner being a fucking piece of shat.
Really? You don't say.
Billy Boy? Just, you know, insofar as like,
just difficulties for him into cave,
feuding and all that shit. Well, I won't sit next to him.
Yeah, exactly. A lot of that. I'm looking up, I just want to...
What's Bill eating? Because I'm not eating that.
You weren't even supposed to be here.
The book is called The View from the Bridge,
memories of Star Trek and a life in Hollywood. He also talks about, like,
other movies he's directed. Well, you kind of have to.
But he also did Star Trek 60,
in their
undiscovered country.
Which is like probably my second
favorite Star Trek movie.
It's a great movie.
Totally underrated probably.
I love that movie too.
I actually,
this is my,
last night was my second time
watching this movie all the way through.
Whoa.
Holy moly.
What happened the first couple times
you step on a mousetrap?
I should probably.
No, the pornography.
I put it on and the pornography is right there.
Oh, sure.
That happens.
You drift away.
Especially with Kirstie Alley in those
Vulcan ears.
I should probably say,
this was the first time I've watched us all the way.
Wow.
I've seen me beat.
I've seen it all in patchwork.
Also, like, I'm not, I'm not shocked because any listener of the show knows that Chris
Cabin is the outlier with Star Trek.
He's not a fan, and that's okay.
So what did you think?
The new ones are really good.
Sure.
What did you think?
It's really good.
It's probably is my favorite of the Star Trek movies.
Yeah, I would say that.
Oh, so just really quickly.
So this Nicholas Meyer's story, totally awesome.
So ages ago, I played Rath of Khan for a night.
just as a fun, like, oh, it's a fucking, whatever it was, like a Saturday night.
At a movie theater, we have to say this for the new listeners.
Oh, right. Yes. During the day, I'm a film curator, and I was playing this at the Jacob
Burns Film Center. And so we get an email.
Well, someone says to me, like, oh, we got an email from somebody, something Meyer saying
something about you're playing her son's movie.
You report that for fishing.
So I get this email forwarded to me
And it's Nicholas at Meyer's mother
She lives in just
First of all she lives question mark
Yeah she's 700 years old
I think she's like in her 80s
Genesis device
This was like five years ago
I mean maybe she's passed away
Did you make fun of my Nicky?
Mr. Meyer your mother's on line one
Oh she never got over that affair with President Tapp
Oh yeah she's like
Mrs. Byrd.
She's kind of...
All right, I'm sorry.
No, so it's...
I mean, it's not really much of a story,
but so she says,
I, you know,
I saw that you're playing my son's movie
and she, like, lived in the area.
And she said, desist.
She said, you know,
he's a big fan of your theater.
And sometimes he goes when he comes and visits me.
You know, do you want me to let him know
that you're playing the movie?
And I was like, whatever.
Yeah, it's a public screening.
Doesn't matter.
He's got to buy a ticket, though.
Totally.
free country lady
talk to you later
Yeah this lady
was fishing for free tickets
I think that's what that was
So she tells him
This motherfucker buys himself
A plane ticket from L.A
He flies to New York
Does a Q&A
Really?
Yeah
No he didn't ask for like a
You know per diem or anything like that
He was like oh cool
I love that area
I love that theater
I would love to come talk about my movie
And that's amazing
It fucking sucked ass dude
Because I had to miss it
Oh, what?
Did you step on a mouse traps?
I did.
I kept stepping on rakes like side show bob.
No, but I was traveling.
Whatever was I couldn't make it.
But he was apparently like so rad.
He was the nicest dude.
Stayed around for ages because of course
he got those fucking nerds coming up.
Oh, dude, those nerds.
A wizard did it.
He suffered every single nerd and he stuck around.
Yeah, it was great.
So I've nothing but goodwill for Nicholas Meyer.
He's a definitely underrated director.
Even time after time is pretty solid.
see that. Yeah, that's a fun little movie. H.G. Wells versus
not Dracula. I almost said Jack the Ripper. That's right. He's like a grounded, realistic
Dracula. Malcolm McDowland, who? Uh, some dude. So, um, the show was like Christopher
Reeve? No, it's Malcolm McDowell and somebody else. Mary Steambird. Probably Michael York,
I think. Michael York, maybe. Oh, Michael York. That might be. Anyway, sorry,
where were you saying? The show Star Trek went off the air. As it did. And,
about 10 years later they're like hey let's or 12 years late was it 78 the first movie 79
the motion picture 79 sounds right 79 79
79 motion picture comes out it does well but everybody kind of hates it
yeah you know what I mean and it was over budget so they didn't make a lot of money like
etc etc they're like hey Roddenberry fuck you we want a movie that's a movie as opposed to like
and also for the record I really like the motion picture I think it's underrated I think
the visuals are really cool I think it was kind of a very
of like I watched it first on VHS and it's like yeah you guys will be watching a static
television but also I mean blue ray looks incredible it's very much not the television show yes
and it's very much you know it's 11 years after 2001 but like you kind of have a sequence
that's similar I think it's actually a really good movie I see a lot of people that are like yeah
about an episode on Star Trek the nope not it's really good yeah I mean uh it's the source spot of
course is that there's a fucking child rapist as a main
character. Yeah, that's a... That dude should
fucking burn for all eternity.
Man, a treasure chest of
fucking material, isn't it?
So,
Ronbury goes away, they're like, hey,
what if we made the movie fun?
And they're like, oh, fun. That sounds...
What about a villain? That's not like, I don't know,
like a misunderstanding of the Voyager.
Yeah, totally. A fucking...
A classic spelling error.
I love that, though. What a great twist.
Oh, feature, buddy. It's so rad.
You don't see it coming.
I remember the first time I watched it.
Well, I will say,
first time I tried to watch Star Trek the motion picture,
I was a little kid, and I was like,
this is boring.
And I fell asleep, like, immediately.
I was freaked out by the dude getting fucked up in the transporter.
That's always great.
What came back wasn't human or whatever that line is so awesome.
But other than that, I was like,
why are they all wearing, like, fucking tan cult costumes?
Like, I didn't get it.
The uniforms were not as good.
It's bad, yeah.
I feel like it's probably Roddenberry
getting into his like utopian
whatever the fuck beliefs that he had
side note and time after time
it was David Warner
David now we're talking
went on to play Chancellor Gorkin
in Uniscovered country
That's right
Did you just say Sebastian Gorka?
Yes he went on to be Sebastian Gorka
in the Trump administration
This is my greatest role
A complete asshole
You're welcome
So whatever
So this is what Rath of Khan is
It's, we're kind of going back, we're going back to our roots, right?
Like, it's a space adventure, uh, better uniforms, better uniforms.
Better uniforms.
Also, side note, this Picard show that's, that's may or may not be happening, probably
happening.
It's in the writing stages as we record this.
Needs new uniforms.
Yes.
You know, you move from, because I don't think they ever did that for, for TNG, for the movies,
they kept the same uniforms.
They, no, Eric, why would a private investigator wear a uniform?
Oh, oh.
Yes.
Yes.
Picard P.I. Yes.
Just he's got a little office in San Francisco.
But Eric, why would this super fun schoolmaster at a haunted private school need a uniform?
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
Star Trek always needed a good haunting, dude.
But Eric, why would a beleaguered marriage counselor need an uniform?
Yes.
But Eric, why would he retired recovering alcoholic baseball pitcher who now owns a Starfleet bar,
Need a uniform
Now it's just
Cheers with peccas
No you need one on the wall though
Oh that's yeah
Remember the old days
No for the for the movies
They gave them those like weird
And maybe this isn't in generations
But they introduced it in first contact
I don't remember
The inverse guys
The gray shoulder pad situation
Oh that's it yeah that's in
I think that's their first content
It's like an off purple
Maybe like a little bit
It's like a grayish purple
And they also invert it where it's
It's like, it's not, you're not main red.
Red is on your shoulders.
You're mostly black because it's a bit slimming.
That's true.
I guess I was wrong, but they just weren't good.
See, I'm looking at, oh, so I'm looking at a frame grab now.
And it's like, it's like that purplish thing that Eric's talking about.
It's still black.
Yeah.
Everything's black.
And then, like, they have like a turtleneck collar part that has their rank color in it.
I'm less excited about these uniforms.
I did like them more this.
Oh, the red ones, you mean, the con uniforms?
I love that.
I think they're great.
They look really cozy.
I feel like it would be hard to stay awake.
It's like all velvet.
It's like, oh, man, it's like really cozy.
It looks like you live on the Moors.
Well, the jacket component, like when Kirk beams down to the science station in this movie, it's that big, fucking thick wool collar.
I want that, holy shit, dude.
But to Chris's point, it's like he's walking around.
It's like foggy inside the entire ship.
It looks more naval than what the TOS.
uniforms were and you could
not bring that to the big screen.
Those fucking little shirts.
They look like you're on a fucking company softball team
with those things. I like the Abrams
update of those. Those are really fun.
They look good. You know, because it was
very close to the original. But a doughy
William Shatner and that would look like shit.
So you need that big maroon coat.
Yes, Chris.
Can I ask what part of
the new
wardrobe for Kirk? Which
part is the one that gives them the discount for
coffee. I think all
of it, dude. It's fucking...
It's the big sash or... Dude, Shatner
does... Kirk in these
movies, he's not paying for anything.
Support the truth. He walks right
into a Starbucks because
it's an outer space. That's what they call it.
He's just like, support the troops.
Because of Starbucks, which is on a star.
Yes, exactly. Dark Starbucks.
Yeah, no, somebody says, thank you
for your service and he gets a fucking freak up
of coffee. Space coffee. Wait, money doesn't
exist anymore, right? Or does it exist in
TOS? I think we still
have money until TNG. Yeah.
Gotcha. Or maybe it's like a
bartering system. He's trading
things. Right. Well, that's what Bones
is up to. We'll get into that. That's true.
Whatever he's trading.
But one thing I was thinking about when I was reading
about Batman 89, which we just did on the
main feed there, it's like
there's always that story about, oh my God, Adam
West was so upset that he wasn't asked back.
And in my entire life
until last night, I was like,
Oh, that's such, what, what an idiot?
Why would he ever expect to be asked back?
But, like, no.
It's the same situation as Star Trek, though.
Like, if you're Adam West at, like, the mid-70s, early 80s, when they're pitching and shopping Batman around, you're like, look at your buddy Will Shatter, which is the same story.
It's like a 60s show that was huge.
Right.
That went away that, like, lived on in reruns was super popular.
You're like, well, I could still do that.
But in 1989, though?
Not in 1989, but like 81, 82, like, you know what I mean?
Like, there could have been a weird Batman.
the motion picture, which would have been terrible
with the all the original cast.
Right. Well, whoever's
that movie that they
made kind of sucks. I love that movie.
Really? Yeah. The one where
Adam West is coming around the giant bomb? Yes.
It's one of my favorite movies.
Really?
It's fine. Top 50.
Above or below X2?
Oh, it's below X2. It's
well below it. It's a campy
fun classic. I just don't like
that. I've got no problem with it. Now we're all
in this warehouse like the penguin the riddler the jet they're all fucking here it's amazing they almost
got them they did almost got them so we start do we start with a cobalashiru is that how we do
we do after a fucking killer and this is the same thing speaking of Batman 89 killer few moments of
just an overture yes you get it in 89 with the the the the the the Danny elphan song is playing
and the signal you're the cameras like going around the insignia a little bit this is like
just an info
just a little shot of like the stars
you know and the fucking songs
it's a real find your seats beginning
it's like everybody everybody ready
because then it just goes right into the credits
it's just boom fucking Star Trek Rath a con
but the credits I mean like there's too much
ranking in the credits it's starring
William Shatter obviously
starring Leonard Nimoy
we're listing roles too
which I don't like as whomever
and then it's like there's coast
stars also stars and then and then all the go through the whole thing and then at the end it's
and starring which is weird we were we were done with star right the stars the stars are out
tonight i think shatner had a whole cast system set up in his contract well the most shocking
part about it though is it's shatner nemoi which okay yeah fucking third is due hand no
de force kelly's got to be third oh you're right sorry de force kelly but then duhan is fourth
though. Yeah. I don't know.
Get, I mean, Wedge Montelban right
in there. No, it's and
starring Montelbaum. You either
get an and or you're just
with the rest of the starings up front.
What is a stupid thing?
But the other thing is like, why even use the word
co-star? Because that's like a fucking
chatner thing. Well, they're co-stars,
aren't they? A Do-Han's not on
my level, is he? I'm a star
and then they all co-star
with each other. Co-star is like third
build on a sitcom. You know what I mean?
Or less than that even.
And I think he always calls them co-star.
Like Jimmy Dewan, he doesn't call him Jimmy or hey, Mr. Dewan or whatever.
It's co-star.
It's co-star number four.
Yeah, that's right.
You're now named after the call sheet.
Oh, my God.
Hey, Co-Star, why don't you stop blowing your line?
I heard it was your birthday yesterday, Co-Star.
Congratulations.
Number five, I saw that smirk.
Go get me some Starbucks.
Uh, yes. So like Steve said, this is the Kobayashi Maru. And it's like, we don't understand what's going on. It's Kirstie Isley. She's a Vulcan. He's a half Vulcan. Uh, and she's in the captain's chair. But then you got Spock. You got Uh, you got, uh, you got Sulu. Yes. Uh, why are all these people helping out with the school exercise? I have no. It doesn't make any, it makes sense that like, you know, Spock, he's a teacher or whatever. It's like Professor Spock, which is a show. I mean, he's dead now. R. IP. But, you know, that's a show.
would have been a great show. That would have been fucking sick. But he's now the captain of
the Enterprise. Yeah. Right. So maybe he just like, I don't know. Oh, it's called in a bunch of
favors, get his old, like, I need to know, I need to know that these kids are all right. So I need
all the most experienced people. Right. It's his prize. People who's up. Right. So that would
make sense. Savick. Yeah. And the other thing is like, okay. Okay. All right. Well,
okay. I'll, I'll definitely come along. Training is very important. I remember when
commander pike did my training i i will pass this on wait i have to explode yeah
hold on this is a little weird firecrackers under my chairs and the acting of being exploded
and laying on the ground i don't understand that also i've been tagged i'm dead like also
fucking bones is in there why is bones there it's all fake well they're listening
All these people would have a heart attack and die anyway.
If you command the enterprise, you might have to deal with a drunk doctor.
Oh, so he's just there so you get the feel for what it's actually going to be like.
Like, all right, Savick, now listen, this is the test.
It's an unwinnable scenario.
Also, this fucking old codger is just going to be distracted you the whole time.
You need to practice ignoring this man.
You know, Savick, another thing I like talking about is mint julep.
Do you ever have a mint jolip, Savick?
The Klingons are on the bar.
Just shut up, old man.
Now, another thing I want to mention about horse racing.
You ever hear the band 3-11?
It's all mixed up.
Don't know what to do.
You know what, Savick?
I think that Amber is the color of your energy.
All right.
Eject that old man.
Fire him at the Klingon.
Airlock?
I wish.
That'd be like the one way to beat the Kovia Shibir.
Firing crew members have them.
They have no.
honor.
Yeah, they would retreat.
They would respect your fear.
Kirk's season, just said, respect.
Oh, dude, this first.
So, like, yeah, it's like, you know,
we're doing the Kobayashmuru.
It's an unwinnable exercise.
I think it's the ideas that Klingons are on their way,
but they're in the neutral zone.
They can't retreat.
They should go forward.
There's people that need to beam off.
Yeah.
Shit goes wrong.
Everybody starts blowing up.
And it goes wrong.
This first shot of Shatner was fucking
storyboard.
by William Shack.
I love it.
I love it.
I think it's so awesome.
I've loved this shot
since before I knew
that it was okay to love shots.
Just watching this as a little kid,
I'm like,
that's fucking cool.
The fucking blood lights behind him.
Just the ship opens up
and just God steps on the stage.
But boy, oh boy,
I will tell you what,
though, I noticed it this time
and this time alone.
Dude, when he's in silhouette
and the floodlights are behind him
still and shit,
you can see,
right through this fucking puffy hair
that he's got going on.
It's like, oh, HD.
There are so many wigs in this movie.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to talk about my favorite wig in a minute.
But yeah, the shot of Shatner and he comes on
and then he has that great line.
He's like, lights.
And then boom, you're on this like little
play set, basically.
What an odd thing.
Like I just located by shoulder during that huge explosion.
Yeah, is there workers comp here?
Look at this.
I scratched my arm.
That's definitely going to scar.
Oh, yeah.
Let me just rub my tricorder on there for you.
Good as new.
It's crazy.
Like, Bones immediately starts shit talking him
while laying in his fucking, like, death position to which...
And then he says to Spock here, too.
This is weird.
He's like, aren't you dead?
Yes.
That was great foreshadowing.
Totally.
Well, what I read about that was,
you know, Spock dies in this movie.
Spoiler alert, by the way.
They, uh, and it leaked and most people thought there's an urban legend that, uh,
Gene Rodenberry was leaking stuff from this movie because he, he was so pissed that he was removed
from it. Oh, really? And he wasn't happy about Spock dying, whatever. I'll show them.
It leaks how things leak, which I guess is like going to, literally going to a fan convention and saying it.
So like, there's a writing, right in campaign and everyone's like, oh my God, Spock dies this movie.
So this scene is almost like a fake out, kind of like, oh, you misunderstood it.
That's what...
Oh, interesting.
So I guess that makes sense
that's why you need
the rest of them
to kind of like butter up
this ruse a little bit,
polish it a little.
So the J.J. Abrams tried to do that,
but he did it terrible.
She's there.
I mean, I like that movie,
but it's just like,
what are we doing?
You could have just told me up front
not like fake me out in the press
for five months.
Totally.
It's not con.
It's not gone.
It's not gone.
And then I'm just like,
what?
It's not even a fake out.
You were just badly
lying exactly
but yeah I mean like so that was
the thing and like but there's also this
thing where like the earlier drafts
of this script had Spock dying in like
the first couple of scenes and they
they called it akin to
Janet Lee dying in Psycho
so now I'm just imagining that was a good
Kobayashi Maru
let's hit the showers
yeah you uh
go on ahead I'm going to jerk off
in the other room where I've got a peephole
oh son
of a bitch, I stole $45,000 from Starfleet. Better get in this car and keep...
What's that noise? Oh, it's nothing. Who said that? No one. This cheap Starfleet
motel. Just get a shot of Khan going out to an eye hole. That is right, Mr. Spock. I am dressed
as my mother. He's got the fucking wig for it, man. I don't know. I don't know.
What the fuck the thing he's wearing is?
Dude, he looks like Pat Benatar.
We are young.
You know, love is a battlefield, as is space.
Pat Benatar's sex nemesis, maybe.
You see that fucking old man over there?
That guy's my sex nemesis.
This is the world I want to explore.
I want to know more about.
I agree.
A Star Trek sex nemesis would have been a better movie
in Star Trek nemesis.
It would almost happen to be.
Did we do a commentary track for that movie?
We did, yeah. I think that's back
on way over on cdbaby.com.
Yeah, wow. The old days.
Just a plug.
It's still there, I think.
I think so.
So what's her name?
So like, it's actually Kirk's birthday,
FYI. Love it. And
Spock gives him a tale of two cities.
Oh, no, here's a DVD copy of
Garfield 2, a tale of
Two kiddies. A classic.
He has the line. He's like, I know how you, your fondness for antiques.
And he's like, you know, there's nothing wrong with reading.
You know, Spock, when I asked for Dickens, I was expecting something a little bit more racy.
Sex nemesis style.
So then we get one of the coolest scenes in all of Star Trek.
And it's only because of the location, James.
James T. Kirk's awesome apartment.
Oh, my lord. I love this.
Dude, you can smell the bad cologne and fucking mahogany floors from a mile away.
I got to tell you, this reminded me so much of Frazier's apartment in Seattle.
Yeah, I buy that.
He's got a sick view, too.
Yeah, the view, there's a lounge share that's similar.
Oh, my dad sits there.
My crotchety old dad.
Oh, here comes my crotchety old dad's crotchety old space dog.
Well, it's weaponry on the wall, right?
Okay, so that's the difference.
Niles, get away from my wall of guns.
There's an amazing feature wall that's like curved and it has a fireplace
and I want to build this now.
It looks pretty cool.
Now, Frasier, Maris would like to borrow your mace for a little bit.
I love that it's all like old revolvers.
It looks like he robbed the prop department from Barry Liddon.
all these fucking old
dueling guns. Kelsey
Grammer plays a Star Trek captain
in some one of these movies. No, he's
on next generation. Yeah,
I think he briefly plays the
captain of the Enterprise C.
Is he, wait, is he
in, I feel like he's in something
too, like generations with Christians later
anyway, I'm probably way off, but I definitely
seen that motherfucker in her uniform and I thought
it was one of these red coats.
No, it is. The way they play it
It's like, oh, it's like lost in time.
Yes.
Holy fuck.
Did we cover that on the show?
No, I mean, that's like, we'll do that in fucking 2019.
Yeah, that's fine.
We'll do that once we are living in Star Trek.
If we keep taking breaks for movies, we're never going to get there.
Yeah, that's fine.
No one cares.
Nobody cares.
No, no, actually some people vocally care a lot.
So in any event, Bones shows up for his birthday.
He's got him some Romulan ale.
Oh, you better believe it.
With the best detail ever that he's just...
Oh, yeah, I know some, you know, drug runners that take this across the neutral zone.
So he's got like, he's in, in with a ship that is smuggling this illegal alcohol.
Well, I'm sorry, Bones, I'm going to have to place you under arrest.
Yeah.
I play by the book.
Well, Kirk, I couldn't get you to spice morange.
But I tried, so here's some Romulan ale.
You'll fry for this one.
I got some
Romulan ale and some
Klingon uppers.
What do you want, Jim Boy?
I'm a walking pharmacy.
You know, you grow a second
backbone if you take those cling on pills.
You know, Jim, boy, I just got in a shipment
of some sticky,
itky Vulcan marijuana.
But I mean, I feel like the way that
Romulan L is treated, it's got to make you
hallucinate, right? Like, yeah.
It's like alcohol times five.
Bones definitely says something about it.
Now, I only use it for medicinal purposes.
You know what I think it is?
I think it's like absent.
Yeah.
I think it's,
except for if all of the legends were true.
Right.
Absence does not make you listen. No.
It does not make you listen.
It makes you really drunk.
The spoiled absinth invented in the 1500s made you fucking hallucinate.
fermented in a corpse.
Unless you get the bottle with the fungus in it.
Hey, Jim Boy, this hit you yet or what?
Wait, is it him or is it Kirk who brings up?
Oh, I was hoping for aphrodisiacs.
Oh, yeah.
I think it's Kirk who says the word aphrodisiac,
and it makes my skin crawl a lot.
One of them was looking for it.
I don't know.
Yeah, if there's one person in all of Starfleet
who shouldn't be playing around with that stuff.
Oh, all right. Let me cancel my prostitute.
I'm hanging out with you. No, no, it's fine. It's fine. I just need to cancel the service.
I don't want to pay for it. When a sex nemesis shows up, you can't drop everything.
He's got the apartment of a sex nemesis.
That's true. Think about the sex going on in this place.
Oh, my God, dude. All sorts of stuff, probably.
Did you guys see that little desk with a little computer over there?
Yeah, he's got a Commodore, actually.
Oh, really? It's like because he collects antiques. So the idea is like you would.
Wow. That is just saying. I like to play. I love to play Pong.
Hey, man, this is pretty cool.
I've got the Nintendo classic, too.
You want to hook that up?
You know who Kirk's sex nemesis is?
Oh, who?
Rodney Dangerfield's love interest and back to school.
Oh, yeah.
What's her name?
Sally Kirkland.
She's been around forever.
Kirkland?
Kirkland Light.
What?
That's a name of a cheap, generic beer.
Oh, my God.
I've never been fucking heard of it.
Costco brand.
to beer. Oh, dude, you cannot. Sally Kellerman is that way. There we go. Thank you.
So we're talking about like getting older and like blah, blah, blah. Like, and like basically
Bones is like what you need, man, before you get too old riding a desk, you need your own command.
What you need to do is fire, Spock. I know it sounds like I'm just being a racist thinking that
no Vulcan should command the end of prize. It makes me want to throw up. No, no, no, no,
Jim Boy, what you need is your own command. All I'm saying, Jim Boy, is that you saw that Cobbite
Ashimaru earlier this afternoon, he's grooming another one to take it over.
There's not going to be any room for guys like you and me, Jim, boy.
That's all I'm saying, all going to be pointing in.
I'm just saying if we continue to have an American captain,
you might find yourself with more of this ram you in the nail here.
Just a thought.
I also love because this is a major motion picture.
we can up the stakes in the language department.
Because right here, DeFors Kelly is totally like,
instead of flying a goddamn computer console,
and I'm like,
they're saying fucking goddamn.
Eating that harsh shit, Jim boy.
Like, they should have really had him go all that.
Oh, yeah.
He still uses, like, 20th century profanity at all times.
That's the only thing I can really be hoping for
from this Tarantino script is that it's just them cursing.
Dude, but like,
If it's just them walking around
fucking fuck this and fucking
someone's using the N-word because it's a
Quentin Tarantino's script. You have to.
You really have to. It's just going to be one of the
it's like, you know what's going to feel like? It's going to feel like
a fucking bad sketch. I mean, we'll see
what it is. Yeah. It's like an S&L
idea. Yeah, here's the S&L bit where they say
fuck on Star Trek. Like,
I feel like that may have happened.
She, he threw you out a window for giving
a foot massage.
Exactly.
That's what.
What I heard, Jim.
It's the one that says bad motherfucker on it.
Let me tell you what a lack of virgins about.
Okay.
It's all about this lady that likes a guy with a big dick.
Dick, dick, dick, dick, dick.
How many dicks was that?
Tell me that you're okay.
My name is Kirk and I like to fuck.
Yeah, I don't know.
We'll see.
cautiously optimistic. I am
slightly optimistic just because I like violence.
Here's a letter from Abraham Lincoln.
Oh, my Jesus.
In any event, we cut to
the Reliant.
The Reliant. U.S.S. Reliant.
We're talking to regular one, which has got
Carol Marcus on it. Yes. Now I got
David Marcus as well. I got some beef, though, with this
reliant, this cut to the reliant.
Sure. Because we cut from
Kirk's drunken stupor
birthday party to the Reliant
where Chekhov
is vocally
giving a log.
When we also have
perfectly capable captain
Paul Winfield.
What the fuck? I don't understand why
Chekhov's just not a captain man.
Do you know what I mean? Like dude because he is
he's a fucking Starfleet
lifer dude. He is the guy who's going to
work at the multiplex concession stand
until he's fucking 55 years old.
Also, like, at least check off.
Cup.
Sweep up other popcorn captain?
At least Chekhov had the fucking backbone to not be like, well, you'll, you could be on
the enterprise.
You could pretend to blow up for Kirstie Alley.
You want to come play war games with us, Chekhov?
No.
They didn't call him, dude.
Oh, no.
Spock did not care for that guy.
Boy, am I so glad that little weird.
over on the Reliant.
I never trusted that weasel.
Fucking season 2 edition, who could care?
We've not gotten to Chekhov.
This is Chekhov's actually inaugural appearance
of the nexus. And I got to say, here's the thing.
I think this dude
bald from birth, Walter Koenig, bald from birth.
A lot of babies are.
Point.
Now, here's the thing, though. This wig that this
motherfucker is wearing. Dude, this guy looks like
he's in the monkeys with this.
This thing, it is so terrible.
This floppy haircut, dude, this would not cut the mustard with fucking regulation, man.
Hey, hey, with a check-off.
People say we check-off around.
It's just awful.
For some reason, I've always got a little, little soft spot for check-off.
I like check-off.
I've never cared about tiny, die-hard ever.
He's got the stench of Afredo on him.
He's a lovable loser, you know?
Like when he's being arrested in part four.
for being in the submarine.
Oh, no, I'm holding the bag, Captain.
I am Patsy.
It's just such bullshit, though, right here,
because you can tell it's like,
well, you know, I was on the show.
He doesn't actually talk about that.
He's not actually Russian.
Sure.
But, you know, Walter Cain.
Oh, wait, that's a fake accent.
You know, in these negotiations,
like, hey, can I fucking do a log?
Yeah.
Right?
But he's like, officers laws.
And I'm like, no, fucking Paul Winfield,
man.
Paul Winfield did Shakespeare.
Let this guy give a captain's log for Christ's sakes.
And the reliance job is they're looking out for dead planets for the Genesis device, which can terraform stuff.
We'll get into that whole thing.
So we find SETI Alpha 6.
It's odd that I don't remember anything, isn't it?
They go to SETI Alpha 6 and it's there's some life form, but they're not sure if it's real or a blip.
So you know who should go, the captain and the first officer?
Let's leave the entrance out of it.
You know what I mean?
Oh, just right into the, like so much into the unknown, we need like space suits.
It's not even like beam down to like a mostly fine.
It's a class M pretty much like Earth planet.
This is like, no, this fucking dead rock desert land.
Dude, you get a blip on that scanner.
There might be some life there.
Move on to the next one.
Exactly.
Just don't give a fuck.
Let's keep truck.
But it's bullshit, dude.
This is some, this is some, like, Starfleet laziness here.
It's kind of funny because they're like, I don't know.
Maybe just something got caught in the device that, listen, can we just, like, turn it off and turn it back on again?
Can we scan it again?
I don't want to look for another planet.
Check off. Stop trying to make SETI Alpha 5 happen.
Okay.
How about Mars, motherfucker?
Exactly.
In the 23rd century, I guarantee you we've colonized that shit.
You think so?
Of course.
Has it been Sean?
in Star Trek? I don't know.
I don't think so. I think Mars is just so sort of like old hat.
They never want to say the word. It's too local.
We don't want to be townies.
So yeah, they're going to go down and check it out. It leads me to think like you could run
some sort of additional scan or something. You know what I mean? Or just go anywhere
out. Go anywhere else. How much dead shit's out there? How many moons and planets that don't have
life? Yeah, use a moon actually. That's a good call.
It's just a sacrifice of V. Ryle Ensign.
It's just like Oliver Reed saying Russell Crow, you don't fight in the Coliseum, I'm doing it.
Totally.
It makes no fucking sense.
So they both go down.
Yeah.
Because also when the ensign gets captured, you're like, well, that's a shame.
Moving on.
Yep.
As opposed to the fucking captain.
That ensign, you know, you don't even need to give that guy a funeral.
Just move on.
It's part of the job.
They're wearing these fun spacesuits.
It's a big sandstorm.
They find something, a structure.
they go inside of it, immediately take their helmets off.
I always love that in these things.
Let's pop these fuckers off.
That'd be awesome, dude.
What a twist.
Chekhov's head just explodes.
Paul Winfield, though, because he's awesome,
gets his back on in time.
My skin is on backwards.
Takes it off.
Looks like the Unabomber lives in this place, by the way.
There's like checkers around.
There's a copy of Moby Dick and a bunch of other books that have been very...
Is Khan not?
Space Unabomber.
Oh, he could definitely.
Pretty much.
It's just he had no reliable mail system.
In case you're wondering, recycling is fake.
They just hide it.
But so he sees,
Chekhov sees Botany Bay and he's like,
Botany Bay. Botany Bay? Botany Bay.
Oh, no.
How do you remember that more than City Alpha?
Exactly.
be like, oh, if you were like, because
I mean, here's the logical
inconsistency we've just done Space Seed.
Checkoff is not on the show yet, but
for some reason, they couldn't
make this George Decay, which makes so much
more fucking sense. What the fuck?
Or O'Hura. Let's get O'Hura, anything
to do with these movies. I believe that's illegal,
Steve. I'm pretty sure
I saw someone online
trying to like fill the gap
here. Yeah. Oh, well, have you ever...
A joke.
No, the fucking... There is a Tribune.
DB trivia fact. That he was in the bathroom.
Yes. Yes. It is so stupid. It is so stupid. Taking a shit, Captain.
The way the trivia tells it is Walter Koenig likes to tell, right? That he thinks they know each other
because Chekhov made Khan wait for the toilet while he was on the Enterprise. And when he came out,
they had a little encounter or whatever. Yeah. Okay.
dude. Okay, that's a funny story. It's $50, please. Next. Next. Next in the Florida Comic Con. Now have I told you the way I think come and Chekhov know each other? You want $50? And meanwhile, Nicholas Myers has been like, yeah, I fucked up, man. Who gives a shit? But like the way they write around it, I think also in the novelization is like, oh, stop. He was like a, he was like a night watchman and he met.
like he was in lower rank. Yeah. There's other things I guess that they said that yeah he was like before he moved up to the bridge who worked security detail. It makes sense because like just say you fucked up. It's so because whatever you say it's fucking stupid. Who cares? Yeah. Who could possibly care? Because it's a glaring error. I don't care. It's a space opera stupid thing. I care. Raising my hand, I cared. But I mean what in any event.
He's like, oh, no, we have to leave.
This is the point.
Oh, no.
How did I forget set the alpha six and five?
I always get those mixed up.
So before they, that happens,
Khan, and this really, they go outside and like.
It looks like the Jawa's are out there, by the way.
It's very Jawa-esque.
I love this like Cyclops visor Khan is wearing in the beginning.
I want a little more of that.
Yeah, that doesn't come back ever.
I mean, instead he's got this ridiculous wig.
I mean, like, I guess the hair is supposed to be cool and feral,
but it's the whole cast
this whole outfit all these outfits they look like
they look like the cast of cats
before the makeup goes on like they get in
the outfits first and then
the makeup goes on oh yeah so just all
like the scraps that they have
clothes yeah totally
so we learned that
because at the end of Space Seed
he and this kind of doesn't
one of the things that I'm
holding against this movie I mean it's kind of hard to do
because Wikipedia didn't exist
and like we didn't have DVDs where like
you can really reference it so hard.
Right.
But like the fact that like Kirk has never really shoved his face in like you're fucking,
you kept this asshole alive, you idiot.
Or like you could have put this guy in prison.
You could have killed him.
But no, you decided to give him his own planet because you had such a big fucking boner
for fucking goddamn dictators.
Well,
these dictators.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot they were all like totally impressed with all of Khan's stats.
Spock is disgusted with them.
Ooh, a lot of good kills.
Oh my God.
Look at all those decapitations.
And he was from 1996.
And that was when he went away.
So he could have seen Scream in the theater.
And he doesn't know about the existence of Scream 2 or 3.
Or telling me, they made three more scream movies.
What left was there to tell?
Yeah, they're classics.
Have you seen Bott and Fink?
it's a trip man
it's a trip
the reservoir dogs
was life changing
for cinema
so the scream
two
forest gum
I cannot get over pop fiction
I cannot get over
I cannot do it
that's his first words
out of the fucking tube
but in any event
so he's like
oh you know
well he's going to this
he's like
I have you my little friend
check off and then like they're like also fucking like exacerbating this error is con going you
I never forget the face shut the fuck off you're making it worse but this weird thing where it's
like oh you think hold on you think this is city alpha six oh city alpha six this is city alpha five
city alpha six you want to go down to the corner you want to go down you want to go down
See that gas station?
You're going to go way past that.
That, you're going to pass that.
That's going to be upon that to sit the alpha six.
I want to see what I did by then.
The fuck does he say, haven't it blew up?
It blew up and it
fucked up the orbit of the planet and turned to do a barrenness.
This is set the alpha five.
Oh, man, the gravitas that Ricardo Montalban brings to this role.
Oh, it's just epic.
And the chest.
That's, oh, my God.
He's also mad that Kirk never came to visit.
he drops that in there
it's like your captain never
bothered to check in on us
at the end of Spacey though
Spock is the one who's like
maybe we'll come back
in a hundred years and see what's up
a hundred years Jesus
well I'm a Vulcan I fucking live
forever fuck you
is it like a wookie or Yoda
they live a long time
they live a lot longer
that's why they can kind of yeah
I forgot about that
because he's like hanging around
with the next gen cat
the cat's not like
not like bones where he's a catfish
and that first
No, that I like.
Now that I like.
Yeah, he actually still just looks like Spock, but an old man.
Yeah.
So, you know, I sent like four or five letters.
They never came back.
And yeah, I'm pretty upset about the whole thing.
Honestly, yes.
I had the whole infrastructure plan.
What do I do with that now?
Dust storms forever.
Well, that's what's weird because it's like he doesn't leave him with any resources.
It's like just.
get the fuck down there.
And, you know, you're basically starting from nothing.
If you have no technology, like, what are you going to do?
He had, he had, he had, like, 80 beefcakes.
He did.
So that is, like, you, that is technology to me.
And the lady there, uh, the 90s cultural expert.
Right.
And she, she was supposed to be in this movie, but she's a little too sick to do it.
So they kind of killed her character off.
And it's kind of, they killed her character.
They didn't kind of kill her character.
My wife died.
Which is good.
It gives them more motivation.
Yes.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I think it's like the motivation.
The whole, like, you didn't visit and left us for dead, whatever.
No, no, no. You didn't visit number one problem.
I mean, I'm-
I'm super happy. She lost her job.
I've had these decorations for a housewarming party.
Not been able to throw because no one has warmed my house.
Now, here's the thing that's always been kind of incredible about this whole situation.
and I don't know if it's actually
Khan has
plotted this whole thing up very carefully
because I think what it is is he's just flying
by the seat of his pants
like he's a super genius
so it makes sense but like this is really impressive
this whole orchestration which starts
of course with ear fucking
oh of course we get these little
fucking he's what does he say
he's like these are the only like animals
that survive or whatever and it's like
this disgusting puppet
it. It's like watching
the dark crystal or some shit, these disgusting
puppets. It's very return to the Jedi
who was the same guy who did the
the creature effects return of the Jedi did this as well.
It looks very much. Yeah, this is all
tattooing stuff here. Yes, absolutely.
You could look at this, you could put a voice to this thing,
do it, how's it going?
Ow, my back.
Quit poking me.
Watch where you're stepping.
Give me back my babies.
Yeah, you're just stealing these little fucking
slugs off of this thing.
Oh man, it is disturbing.
Which I love it. It's disturbing.
It's really cool.
Before it starts fucking them in the ears, though, they kind of just look like little anchovies.
And then I just started thinking about pizza.
You open up the seamless act.
Like, how late is it?
Yeah, I was, dude, I was doing the fucking math.
I was like, eh, oh, that's too late.
Put some pizza in your.
Oh, man, look out.
But they're, that's not the Ninja Turtles do it.
Really?
They're incredibly painful.
mind control things
sure. Because they start like
wrapping themselves around your brain
and it's Star Trek. Yeah. It get bigger
and you go mad. It makes you
more suggestible
or whatever, yeah.
All right. First, take your
clothes off. And now
you, the bigger one, start
doing the little one.
No, no, it's going to be great.
Relax. Don't do it.
Where do it? Where do it?
off help him
help him
Paul Winfield's like
I did
Shakespeare
and he's
I mean both of them
are selling this
Paul Winfield's really
I'm like
I don't want that shit
in my ear
like he's like
really freaked out
oh yeah
well because
he's an actual actor
and the other person's
Walter King
he's like
I've never had
the pleasure
of meeting the admiral
of course
yeah he's pissed
about this
promotion too
oh yes
how else can you
fall up
but to be James
T. Kirk
So we kind of get back
The Enterprise is going to go on a three week training mission
And the Admiral is just going to inspect
Everyone's on the fucking thing
We go out
We meet up with Scotty
And apparently Scottie's nephew
Which is something that I didn't know
What?
Wait, the guy that comes up later is Scottie's nephew
Is he?
Scenes deleted, my friend
Doesn't count then
Oh no, it doesn't
But it does not fucking count
But it makes some sense of what happens later in the movie
He was also selling underage liquor on T.J. Hooker in one episode.
Oh, really?
So it's nice to see the crossover there.
Hey, kid, you've got some moxie.
There's a ridiculous.
They're taking like a shuttle to the enterprise,
which is great because it allows for a beautiful shot of this enterprise model.
All the shit in this movie just looks so good, especially on Blu-ray.
Like, it really cleaned up nice.
so it's it's bones
Sulu and Kirk I believe
is who are on the shuttle here too
she is she is she is yes
so they're going up and they're like
they're just kind of like talking about like
oh being back at the Enterprise or whatever
and I think this is where Kirk is like
I don't think these kids can steer
oh that's because he's like well why do you need me here
I don't think these kids can steer
yeah and it's like you know what man
stop degrading like the Starfleet Academy
right here that's essentially what you're doing
like oh these fucking kids
Do you see who's teaching them these days?
Look at, it's Spock.
They let Spock teach these kids.
I don't think they can steer.
What are they going to call millennials in those days?
Oh, yeah.
What is the next term?
Ultra whatever is or something.
They're ruining the stuff.
They're always looking at their tricorders.
Can't even talk to them.
The zappers.
These ultra zappers are ruining Starfleet.
Less ultra zappers are learning to steer.
Did you hear that?
I read it with their Romulan smear toast
So they go to like
They're just gonna go out and do like a little run and come back
I will say the only reason O'Hura comes up
He's got this copy of a tale of two cities
He dresses down the whole cast
And all he does he gives O'Hura the book to hold
And I'm like dude
That's not her job
Look it's like a walking bookshelf
And like that's like the most she does in this movie
I'll take her a stand still
I'm going to pull out a edition of the
Wall Star
journal from you
but I'm sorry
yeah so they go out
it's gonna take three weeks
to just kind of go around
you hear this line here though
where like they're like
so you know
where should we go or whatever
and Kirk goes
Mr. Sulu
indulge yourself
yes Captain
you mean right here
like it's just what dude
tell this man where to go please
but also in space
you could go literally
anywhere oh well you know
things have been really
at the Sulu house and I'm kind of
down, what with it being winter at all?
How about right into the sun, suicide
mission, goodbye. You said
indulge myself, you are going to
indulge my suicide. I guess I'm
a little bit more innocent. I just thought they were going to cut to
him doing the Tom Cruise dance from Risky Business.
No, I'm going to kill everyone
of all. I have
real problems in this movie.
I'll be doing that dance in hell.
So
the Reliant, by the
way, context of
Reliant. Quite easily. Yes.
Because I think Paul Winfield's like, hey, I'm the captain. Stand
Down. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, the captain can't be mind controlled. Oh,
wait, what? Yeah. Uh, check off. Again, why isn't this fucking Paul Winfield? I hate this.
I fucking hate this. Or make him the captain. That's the thing to be. Yeah. He doesn't deserve it to be.
But if you have to, because you want him to do all this stuff, you have to make him the captain.
Because it makes no sense that he's doing all this shit. Yeah. Why wouldn't Paul Winfield,
captain, whatever the fuck, be.
directly talking to this person. They should have just made him captain. I hate it. They call
I hate Chekhov. They call regular one and Nicole and Nicole, what's her name? What Marcus? Carol. Carol Marcus and David are working on the Genesis device. Carol Marcus, by the way, played by B.B. B. B. Bish. This is not the first B. B. B. B. B. B. Bish movie we've done. Really? If anybody can go back in time with us a little bit. Okay.
She is the love interest to one Joe Don Baker in the pack.
That's amazing.
Yep.
Also, rest in peace.
She passed away in 1996.
So on the screen, which she died 96, presumably, maybe she went into space with the botany bank.
I guess that is possible.
But it's great to know.
Her sex nemesis is where Joe Don Baker and William Shatner.
Yeah, what a life.
Great company to have.
Those are high markings.
That's like being Scorpion and Sub-Zero.
So, yeah, he's like, oh,
and I kind of don't understand this.
Well, no, I guess it's to lay the trap
because he's like, we're coming to take the Genesis device.
And like, no.
And he's like, yes.
No, yes.
And then because, and this is, I mean,
Khan is such a fucking genius man
she's like
hey person who's not the captain of the reliant
but I'm talking to you anyway
who gave this order
Admiral Kirk gave that order
so you better believe she gets on the horn
starts fucking screaming in Kirk's ear
about all this
you're goddamn right I did
you need me on that wall
it's kind of great though because
she says you know who gave this order
Mr. Chekhov there is such
an I'm lying pause
right here. He goes, the order
comes from
admiral Kirk.
And like, dude, you're under mind control.
Just say it.
He's like looking off to the camera, there's like
fucking Ricardo Montoban's got cue cards
and he's trying to shuffle him.
Well, he forgot his rank. He's like,
Gen. Nope.
Lieutenant.
No.
Oh, yes. It's like I'm on Saturday nightline.
The cue cards.
um so savick is sort of like given the uh she takes the helm right here there oh no this is oh this is the elevator
scene oh the elevator i love this like kirk gets in the fucking turbo lift and she's in like a federation 90 or something
i think it's a karate outfit it's a space it's a space gie uh she's been doing space karate is the uh technical
term for a karate outfit yes that's right yes karate just letting everyone know that they were both
She's the one years old.
Both correct.
But yeah.
And then it's just a weird like, oh, you know, Admiral, can I ask you some questions about the Kobayashi
Maru?
And he's like, if it gets us closer to bedtime, fine.
Well, he's also says, oh, you're wearing your hair differently.
She said, well, that's inappropriate.
She actually just says, well, it's regulation.
So go fuck yourself.
Making your fucking comments.
It's not 1960s anymore, buddy.
Man, I like the hair regulations.
We should get more into that because apparently anything goes.
But if you're a man, you need to have that weird.
sideburn? Yes, you desperately need
that weird sideburn. Also, you're in huge trouble.
And if you can't grow facial hair, dude, they fucking
glue it on you. Excuse me.
Do you have buxie sideburns
on my bridge, mister?
But there's a great... Little daggers
or bust. I don't think
there's any... Sulu executive.
There's no mustache. Or no,
Duhan. Anything goes. Anything goes.
But that's only old
Duhan, though. Young Duhan does not
have the stash. Well, I'll be
an engineer. But then where
in a mustache.
You're going to have to
fucking rip it off me.
Rip it off my fucking
Canadian face.
It's a good thing
no one sees you down there
at the warp core.
Maybe that's why he's like,
all right, fine.
You can have your mustache,
but stay down there.
I don't want to see that fat ass
up here on the bridge.
You're like a bridge troll.
Stay in your cave.
Captain, could I have a mustache too?
Just try it.
when the door is open
I was listening to some
I was listening to the load
the other day
and I was thinking about
getting me one of them
metallic goatees
so the door
of the elevator
opens back up
and it's fucking great
because it's more
bones profanity
he's like
who's holding up the goddamn
elevator
which he's calling it
an elevator
which is hilarious
and it's a turbo lift
it's a turbo lift
yeah
she walks out
Bones just goes
She changed her hairstyle
I'm supposed to jerk off to that
So
He does get a call from Carol Marcus
Saying you know
Why did you take the genus
Away from us?
You doctor should know the danger
Of opening old wounds
That's what he says to bones right here
Right because bones says
When it rains it pours
Yeah making jokes
Oh I love it
Love this movie
Kirk has to let everyone
Both Spock and both
in on what the Genesis device is
and does before they get there
because now they have to go intercept
whatever's going on
in regular one.
We have this fun computer simulation
of what the Genesis device is.
It's a terraforming thing that can...
Looks like Star Fox we're playing.
Oh, yeah. Good luck.
Boo, boo, bo, babbub. Enterprise.
There's an awesome thing here, though,
where there's an exterior shot of regular
one, great, like, space station
model. It's near this planet and everything.
and they don't do this a lot in Star Trek
it's this exterior shot of this space station
and you hear all the scientists arguing
for like a very long time
before it cuts to the interior
it's a great flourish here I like it a lot
and it's kind of cool because they're really
they're putting the hat
on the federations of the military
we do not want this to be a military weapon
like you know what I don't know like hey look
I don't want this to go up with Klingon's asshole
I want to fucking you know make something nice year
this is where we get a lot
of David, who is, we learned to be,
is played by Merrick
who is Kirk's son.
And actually, it's good casting.
It is a lot like him.
Because Merrick Buttrick naturally
had that curly hair.
Oh, really? I was about to say they both have a perm.
Well, no, because William Shatner is wearing
a fucking dead chihuahua on there that they put
the microwave for a little bit.
Dude, this piece is disgusting.
Oh, hot.
Better put this piece in the fridge for a little bit.
Don't touch the shell.
baby. Oh, my hair
is proofing right now. Would you
like to gleam the dome?
They just, they found an actor
who had natural hair to William Shatner's
hilarious Chia pet artificial hair.
It's like fucking Greg Brady
in the 70s shit, dude. They just
like, they chopped off all the
roundness of it and just made it
like, it's not exactly a
flat top, but it's like, it doesn't go
beyond the width of his
skull, but it goes up.
Yeah. It's in
reminded Khan of
Barton Fink
He looks like
an obese Kramer
Now Jerry will tell you
that Rath of Khan
is the better picture
But I like
Search for Spock
Yeah but yes
This is when Bones
Kind of has
This kind of fun
Bones indignation
Of like
Oh it's the Genesis
Devise
It's gonna wipe out
humanity
We're doing
You do it
God did
six days? What about six
minutes, you motherfucker? Bones
is fucking right. Are you kidding
me? This is a terrible invention.
And, of course, Spock is being logical.
Well, it's like, you green-blooded
son of a bitch.
We finally get that this week, which is great,
green-blooded monster, you know. I think
this is particularly where it's like,
you green-blooded half-breed.
And then it's like, whoa.
It says inhuman at one point.
Oh, yet, you inhuman.
Which is great because then,
at the end of the movie
when Kirk is giving
the eulogy
he says,
human.
He calls him human
after bones,
slurt.
Well,
it's not really a slur
because he's not really
a human.
Well, that's inhuman to me.
Wow.
100% are boss.
Yeah, dude.
Really?
What if the guy was like
half gleepclops?
Yeah,
what if it's like a half man,
half dog?
Well, that's a werewolf,
I think.
Well, isn't that okay?
No, that's clearly inhuman.
It's a monster.
That would,
you know,
that would be,
that would be the move
because I mean first of all
this movie does
if I will ding this movie
on one thing
it doesn't have like creature effects
you don't even aside from the monster
like Kirk's son
should be half monster
like it's this monster lady
that he fucked
way back in the old
she looked at a fish
and it's this fish boy
with a curly hair on his head
oh yeah
or at least like a green skin individual
or something
or con from the whatever
the mute you like
because you know
city alpha
of six got destroyed. Maybe he got mutated and he's got
like a little quado baby in his belly. Oh shit. Like it comes out. This is what
happened to my wife. She's under my t-shirt. Yes. Yes. And then like
it's got a whole human head and little baby arms. We didn't talk enough about
Khan's physique. It is fantastic. Gorgeous. And apparently it was real because it does
almost look fake sometimes. Because it's so fucking perfect. Do you think he was working out with
Stallone? Like going to muscle beach? I think it was
a thing where he was like, I got to be on the love boat, man.
You know, you never know on the love boat.
Fantasy Island. Or Fantasy Island, excuse me.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But he was on Love Boat too.
Mr. Rourke. Whoever. That's, that's Fantasy Island. That's what I think he was still doing.
Yes, he was. No, he was definitely doing Fantasy Island. I don't know if he did the love boat as well.
I could be just mixing up stuff. But either way, like, listen, you're on an island or you're on a
fucking boat. At some point, you might have to take your shirt off. That's true. I think it's more
of like the American Psycho workout.
Yeah, like porno blaring in the background
Just doing
Orno blaring
Mechanical pushups
Just like over and over again
I can do a thousand now
I was wrong
You're totally right
154 episodes of fantasy
Although credited in one
1980 episode of the Love Boat
Where he played
Horse Race Annancer
Oh wow
This horse is riding around
Perdition's flame
I will say
Ricardo Montelban
also amazing on Freakazoid
A couple episodes
He plays the bad guy
It's a great voice performance
It is fucking laugh out loud
How about when he squares off
With Detective Drebbin
Oh right
He's in the files of police squad
Yeah
He's very funny in that movie too
He had just so much presence
It's just so like
It's always amazing man
And the bummer of this movie also
Is it he doesn't have a scene with Kirk
Like you know what I mean
Figure that it's kind of fun
It was because of fucking fantasy island
Oh well yeah
It's right
schedules work. They were FaceTime and
did they not even read
lines together? I don't know.
He said it was a script girl. It was him and a script girl.
I mean, it works really
well for that. It does. You're going to need
to get me a fatter script girl.
Could she have a poodle
on her head?
Could she have a smoked
for 30 years?
So we were like, oh man,
that Genesis device sure can't get in the wrong hands.
But before we get to SETI Alpha 5,
we do, we're on our under,
under attack from the rely or we meet the reliant we're not sure what it is what's going
this is this is an awesome scene though because it's like all right they're not responding to any
these hails they have no idea what's going on this is a fucking federation vessel it's i mean it's
awesome because like in this this happens so infrequently and literally all these movies
is really fun and cool ship to ship submarine to submarine kind of stuff and that's exactly
like nicholas meyer talks about in his book like his idea was he wanted to make this like a
Horatio Hornblower
kind of master and commander type
these are boats warring with each
other kind of a thing. He had another
the enemy below
I think was another
subframe movie yeah
which I mean it makes sense because that I mean
and that's that is why I think
this face timing stuff
as much as it would be really cool to have that
heat scene maybe they go to a diner to get in
you know one day I'll be coming around that corner
they are neutral zone dinah
right
I had coffee with Kirk
Half an hour ago
But like no
I mean like
But it works because it's like
It is that thing where like
That's how space battle would work
You wouldn't talk to each other
You wouldn't exactly
Would be in two different ships
It makes you realize
One of the problems
Or just like
A flaw with Star Trek
I mean it's Star Trek
So that's their thing
But like everybody keeps picking up the phone
Yeah
Like just ignore them
And it's terrifying
But I can imagine
Kahn being the kind of
maniac that would like if if you know god forbid kirk ever like actually retired and like actually
laid down somewhere he would come five more film appearances after this he would come to his
house even just to like move in i'm your next door neighbor captain oh that's a sitcom
absolutely well all right well well to do to achieve this double date we'll have a detunt on
arrival, as they are
to stewardesses.
That would be amazing. Like, Khan
barely survives this encounter.
And then he's just like, he just
hasn't seen any love.
Like, take him under his wing.
I need to get this guy late.
They moved to San Francisco. Now, by
double date, you mean we both get two, right?
A quadruple date?
Oh, yeah, man.
Two by two.
What's awesome, too?
I love the detail
because they also
they kill all the crew
of the Reliant
Kahn's fucking superhuman
people
and they're hilariously
like kind of wearing
the uniforms of dead people
like they sort of have
jackets slung over their shoulders
kind of a thing
it's pretty nice
blankets half the time
which is amazing
it's just like
it's a little chilly
all right
I know how to fly this starship
but I can't find
the heater
well he even starts
with saying
that it's an old Klingon proverb
captain
where revenge is
a dish best served gold.
It is very gold in space.
No, literally, quite gold.
Freezing my huge tits off.
Could anyone get me a t-shirt?
Dad said to stop fudson with the thermostat.
So then they fucking, it's a great moment.
They raise their shields.
The Enterprise can't raise theirs in time.
And the Reliant lights these dudes up.
It's a great.
It's so awesome.
And what I love is also the more submarines,
stuff is you do, I feel like
maybe it's just because I watch it so much
next gen. Whenever that happens, you
just see, we're just shaking the camera and
everyone's just, oh, walking sideways,
walking sideways. But like people are
blowing up downstairs. Oh, yeah.
They're trying to like climb ladders and all sorts
of fun shit. Engineering gets
fucked in the face twice
in this movie. And yeah,
it's this first one. You just see dudes
flying off ladders getting blown
from here to Kingdom Come. It's crazy.
And like, you know, so
that happens then we then we are talking ship to ship uh spot comes up but i don't remember who comes
with the idea is like if you get the prefix of the reliant it'll be able to hack into it before yes
they do hack the ship which is great but before it's revealed that it's con yeah
nischel nichols does get to have a cool line here because she's like sir it's the reliant
uh they want to talk about terms of our surrender yes and she's just like i can't even believe
I have to say this. I can't believe
the enterprise under the
stewarding of Captain or Admiral Kirk
was caught with their pants down. First, let
me put down these nice
big gallons of
Diet Pepsi.
And then I'll say my line.
Um, yes. Kirk's seeing
Khan. It's fucking great. He's like, you've
got to be fucking kidding
me. It's a great thing. Khan?
Yeah. This guy. I thought I
left you for dead.
So, how's city alpha five?
What's civilization looking like on there, bud?
How are you guys doing?
Oh, what happened?
Bummer.
Oh, the burns all over the ship.
Oh, that's nothing. That's nothing.
That we weren't hit.
And you never came to visit.
Not a letter, not a postcard, not a phone call.
Hold on, Khan. Don't be an asshole here.
I'm pretty sure I sent you a letter.
I asked my girl to say,
Oh, I'm going to be so mad at my secretary.
I am going to, you know what, Khan,
I'm just sick over this.
She's fired.
Consider her fired.
And I have you done for a yearly fruitcake, mister.
Wait, you haven't gotten those?
Oh, there's a backlog of fruitcakes.
Would have been nice to at least gotten a Christmas car.
It's also really great right here.
There's a fucking, I don't know what is going on with this take that they use,
but Ricardo Montalban is like talking
and he's talking over the view screen
and he's like
he basically is telling them like he wants
he's demanding the Genesis device
and it's basically like a
we have to get the
he fucking looks off to the side
as if he's like line
oh there's definitely some
Genesis device
what is the Bush
oh the Genesis
the life giver
no sorry I'll ask my boy
We need that device immediately
and it better have Peter Gabriel
Not just Phil Collins
The whole set
I want the whole set
The early years
This
So the Enterprise gets lit up and everything
Scotty in a move that makes no sense
Thank you I was about to bring this up
The door is open to the turbo lift
And Scotty is holding this dying kid
In his arms
And it's like
Dude Sickbay is like
two floors down.
I'm sorry.
You were fucking fired.
He could have been on the,
Kirk could have been on the phone.
I've got other,
I'm trying to save everyone,
not just this one kid,
Scottie.
Exactly.
I don't understand that at all.
It's a weird move.
It's like a move,
Chris,
take your headphones off.
If you had a bad roommate,
uh,
and like he left like,
you didn't give me long enough
to take off my headphones.
No,
no, no,
but no,
but no,
if you had a bad roommate,
like there's pizza in the fridge.
Yeah.
would go to his room with the pizza that, like, is crusted and disgusting.
I'm like, dude, you want this fucking pizza?
It's gross.
And then you'd throw it out.
Like, you would make a big, it's a big passive, aggressive, shitty move.
Right.
Look what you did, you little jerk.
Did I eat your pizza?
No, no, no.
But he's doing the fucking death of a family, the Batman death of a family cover.
He's going to hold him robin in his arms.
It's just like, what are we talking about?
Who is this kid?
What are you doing?
Scott?
He's out of here.
You're fired.
But then it's so fucked up because he,
we cut to sick bay and the dude's like oh is everything all right captain i think i'm dying like
and he fucking bites it right there and bones puts the blanket over his face it's like hey scotty
that precious 10 minutes man right to the doctor did he does he doesn't kirk say warp speed yeah i don't
know what this is oh i think the guy's like probably like crazy like dead crazy i think i'm going to
die whoop speed right to the
devil mister warp five to the devil we need the air uh but yes they hack the there's this weird
thing with if you have the prefix of the other control console you can hack it and they lower
their shields and then now they're shooting them up yeah now we're lighting up the reliant oh yeah
fuck you buddy and there's so much it's kind of great there's this other guy this like uh cons number
one oh tom petty he does he looks exactly like tom petty he looks like tom petty and kevin sorbo had a kid
Oh, yes, absolutely.
He's got like a weird name, too.
It's like Juxon Smith.
Yeah.
I think he's Judson.
It's the hardest call the conqueror.
Man,
combo of both.
Petty left us fucking Sorbo's still farting around, though.
That stinks.
Did anybody read the trivia about this guy?
Oh, it's kind of funny.
This is my favorite thing about this.
I did not. Please illuminate.
The guy is not credited for the role.
Right, right, right.
Because his agent fucked up the deal.
completely to the point
where they didn't have to
fucking give him credit for it.
That's amazing.
Yeah, you fucking fire that guy.
Because he like turned down the office
like, oh, we'll give you whatever billing.
No, no, we'll pay you.
We'll pay you to be in this movie, please.
Your billing will be second co-star.
Yeah, exactly. No, no, no, no, not for my guy.
It's like, okay, so then we won't
credit you? Like, go right ahead.
Don't credit this?
Okay, we won't.
We're just not going to credit you.
Say, say, say, can't you put him under stunts?
Well, you see, you did a typo.
in the contract and you said coat
star. So we don't
actually credit clothing.
He's technically
under wardrobe now.
No, no, not wardrobe
designer. He's not getting that credit either. No, no,
we're just talking about like a physical
prop. Not a prop master.
You are a prop. Wow. Hey,
how about this though? Cabin.
Yeah. This dude, so the actor Judson
Scott is his name. Cabin.
He is, I can't
recall the character, but he's in your favorite movie.
Blade playing a character
named Palentine.
I would imagine that's
probably one of the older vampires
in that movie.
Oh, yes.
It's a nice vampire name.
That's a good vampire.
Also, three episodes on a...
Palantine, yeah.
Three episodes on a latter
series run on the X-Files.
Oh, nice.
Playing Absalom.
Do you know who, speaking the stunts in this
video?
Who was a stuntman on this film?
No.
Your best friend?
The shape, George Wilbur.
Was he really? Oh, that's cool. Hey, you know what?
Hey, my face. Exactly. You stole my face and I'm going to wear yours. It's face off in Rath of Khan.
So now that the reliant is all fucked up, they have to go lick their wounds and fix their shit. And what we were talking about this, not the guy. This guy is like, Judson St.
Whatever his name is. Scott. He's like, listen, we've got the jet. They're not going anywhere.
Could we not do this?
I know that this fucking 60 year old dude
is like your big boner,
but like we got a ship,
we can go wherever we want.
Yeah.
We can get fucking laid, dude.
We can get laid.
I could use a fucking indoor toilet.
I can have a house.
But no,
I'm hung up on my dead wife.
That's not as big as my bono.
And my boner is cook.
So they do want to put in those little fucking like sandworms in his boners or like wraps around.
It goes into your head and your other.
You know, for an older man, it is very difficult to maintain and keep an erection.
So this is a little, little worm here goes around and around.
It's like a biological cock ring.
Now, every time I ejaculate, I create a demon.
I only ejaculate half of it because the rest of it feeds the beast.
So we have to, the reliant has to like clean their shit up.
This is when, you know, we're, we're counting the dead and all that.
shit here. And like basically
they go to regular one to investigate. And again
classic Star Trek move, man. Who are you going to send down? It's fucking
Kirk, Bones, and Savick.
Savick, I guess makes sense. She's like sort of a lower tier, lower
ranking officer. Why not just send the engine of the ship?
How about you send them? Put that in a suit and send it out there.
Me, Spock, Bones, Scotty, and the Warp Corps are beaming down.
the most important things
on your ship
put them out there
all right Corey
put on this red shirt
now it's an XXXXL
goddamn maniacs
okay okay
and then
I'll wear all the
the excess oxygen
we have
bring that as well
so yes
but they go
but at least
they have the good grace
and intelligence
to leave Spock
manning the ship
you know what I mean
like somebody
who could do something
is doing it
this is one of my
favorite scenes
right here
because it's it's twofold.
One, because it starts off hilariously
and then ends horrifically.
They're all walking around.
They're like, where the fuck is everybody?
This is supposed to be the science station,
what's going on.
Bones get spooked by a rat.
Oh, yes.
Which is fucking hilarious.
And then immediately bumps into a bunch of hanging corpses.
Dude, like the predator was in town.
This was my favorite movie of 1980.
I do things, just like the predator.
After hours is underrated Scorsese.
Oh, that's why he wears his hair like that.
He wants to look at the predator.
It's also why he's so cut.
I wear a fish net under here.
Want to see it?
We meet up with all these dead people.
We find...
We meet up with all these dead people.
We meet the Marcus's.
Neiman. No, that's a bad joke. Carol and David. And also
Chekhov and Paul Winfield are there. And some other
extra scientists kind of around. Chekhov and Paul Winfield are on the
science station still. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. They're like
But Carol and David aren't. They're down to the planet. So this whole thing of like
where the fuck is everybody? That's right. And then it's like, oh, well, there's these
caves or whatever. And they do, it's another great bones being
scared about beaming because
they're like, all right, we just, they're on
the planet, but they're underground.
Yes, they've gone deeper underground as the
Prophet Jamiriqui prophesied.
So Bones is like
shitting his pants about beaming through
solid Earth or whatever. And they beam
into this like hollowed out cave area.
This is where Merrick Bunktrick
and fucking James T. Kirk, William
Shatner have this fucking fist fight.
And it's Kirk just punching his son in the
stomach. It's the only Star Trek fighting
you get this movie, actually. I mean, because everyone's
fucking old, you know. And we're all fucking
talking on FaceTime. Yeah, it's all
naval battles.
But then Paul Winfield
and Chekhov pretend that they
are no longer under Khan's command.
Right, right, right. But then they're like, oh, we are
double criss cross applesauce.
And Paul Winfield is ordered to kill
Kirk, but somehow has the
fortitude to kill himself.
Well, also, no, first of all, he blasts
one, some other dude. Yes.
Other's extra scientists.
It is an amazing kill.
Wow, do you talk about erased from existence?
Holy shit.
Kill Kirk.
Well, that's my middle name.
So I'm allowed to kill myself in this situation.
You're right, though.
The one blast, like somebody pulls Kirk out of the way or somebody jumps.
And this dude's like, what?
Tegan sent to the fucking fandom.
So, dude, it is just not even anywhere in reality where this guy goes.
It's great.
And so he, Paul and Field.
blast himself. We get that effect again,
which is great. And the sound
design here is crazy because it's like
Paul Winfield, like, you know,
turning the phase around himself. He lights this
thing off and you hear like,
as he just disintegrates, oh my lord.
Oh, that's what you heard? I heard.
Ah, fuck it.
And then Chekhov just has
like a migraine and falls over.
His bug falls out. Like, wait.
No, I was told by Con that that's going to
choke his brain. He goes crazy. Then he
dies. That's what I was told. Yep.
Well, it's fucking bullshit. This character
sucks. Well, yeah, nepotism
even goes over to the eel creatures.
Well, well, Chakoff
knew Kirk longer
than Paul Winfield, right? Sure. So
the resistance
killed the worm. Yes,
okay. Because of his loyalty
to Captain. Well, he is, he does
have a thing where he's like, I'm
sorry, Captain
Admiral.
Actually, my Vig
is actually interfering with the command of the bug.
That is right.
Get out of here.
You don't understand what the Vig will do.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Now the Vig is calling the shots.
It's like that episode of the Simpsons.
It's walking around.
It's got a gun.
I'm sorry, Captain.
The Vig wants to kill you too.
Six Sampatarayas.
The Vig hates your Vig.
It's like two dogs smelling each other.
So we're kind of walking around.
We get a, there's a fucking classic
William Shatner line right here, and it's
obviously overshadowed by, because
this is the scene where he screams Khan.
Yes. But there is a line where
he just goes, there's
a man out here. I haven't seen him 15 years
trying to kill me.
Fucking awesome.
It's like him on fucking Twilight Zone.
I mean, I feel like most people who haven't seen
Kirk in a while want him dead. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, Harry Mud. Yeah, that dude.
dude's out for blood.
Most of those god creatures.
Him and Han Solo, both.
Clint Howard, he wants him dead.
Ew.
Man, imagine they brought back
Clint Howard.
That would be amazing.
Keep him in like a diaper.
He's just been a space baby
this whole time even though he's grown.
And it's just like that that Hurtzog,
Doc, the land of silence and darkness
or something when the, is my,
am I saying the right title?
Yeah, but are there diapers in that?
Yeah, when there's a giant baby,
there's a dude that's like in his 20.
but he's been raised as a baby because his parents never actually helped him.
Well, because he's, he's like blind and deaf.
That's what that movie's about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that movie's hard.
That's a hard watch.
I'll say that, dude, that is a hard watch.
I always get the title confused with the one about like the oil fields.
Because I think they both have darkness in the title.
I think, but Clint Howard at the state that we're looking for,
it would be more of a nothing but.
Trouble-esque.
Oh, Jesus, that's even worse.
Diperscapade.
Oh, Jim, we're in planet Vulcanvania.
Oh, it's, it's the hump-de-dumpty gang.
Oh, I love that song.
Do the hump to dump.
Come on, do the hump to dump.
Kirkke kept on asking if I wanted a hot dog.
Wait, hold on.
We're going to stay till the end because the digital underground is performing.
Holy shit, is that Chupac?
Oh, that is exciting.
Let me beam down.
We'll call it a truce.
I want to see Tupac play.
Nothing but trouble would be a much better movie
if Ricardo Montalbaum showed up
to beat the shit out of Dan Aykroy.
Yes. Oh, totally.
By the way, you're thinking of land of silence
and darkness.
Yes.
That's the movie.
So we do get the famous.
God!
Oh, yeah.
It's great.
This theatrical trailer kicks ass by the way.
It's really, really good.
The trailer.
The trailer is really good.
Because they do the con yell in it.
That's like something like the editor was like, oh shit, that's going in the trailer.
You know what, guys?
I don't care.
It's going in the trailer.
Trailer moment.
Because it's also, it's that sort of cut around with the, uh, I'll chase him around the galaxy
and blah, blah, blah, blah, around perdition's flame until I fuck that fat man up.
Off the shoulder of Orion.
Do you get any, uh, james?
Jim Kirk ain't no Boy Scout.
Oh, no, yeah.
I feel like that would be a good one.
Yeah, I don't think it's in there, but that that isn't very,
I think they were trying stuff out.
Like, maybe that's a trailer line because, yeah,
his son is like, well, Jim Kirk's no boy scout.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
So, I mean, like, they're kind of getting to know each other.
Him and this woman, him and Carol Marcus kind of catch up a bit.
They sort of hash it out.
And Kirk is like, I did what you asked.
I stayed away.
Yeah.
But this dude, David has like this negative impression of
Kirk is like this cowboy piece of shit
kind of guy. Not totally unwarranted,
of course. But so
it's kind of great because Carol Marcus is like,
Hey, David, why don't you show our
new friends the Genesis room? I'm going to talk
with your dad for a bit,
but we're just going to stay
back in the parking lot. Go show him your toys.
And he's like, all right, fine. Come on. You want
to see the Genesis room? Oh, no.
We're trapped on this planet. I guess
we're going to have to repopulate. Well,
I'm going to have Savick because
She's under 30.
Carol, I guess you have to have sex with bones because I don't go that way.
Or David, I don't care.
Either way.
Don't bother with the catcher's mitt.
Hey.
Come on, little lady.
Don't you want to talk about corn?
You know, the band, Jonathan Davis, amazing American composer.
They had a bassist named.
I don't remember
Wait a second
It's coming to me now
Was it head or monkey
Both of them were in the band
One of them became a born-a-cran Christian
Anyway, they died many moons ago
In a big bus crash
Fieldy that was it
Oh Fieldy was definitely in corn
They did
So there's this weird scene where a Spock kind of calls
Kirk he's like
Captain you know
Because of interference we can only get you in two
is we're going to do things by the book.
We can only get you in two days and that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But it was all in code, you guys.
Oh, yeah.
Two days meant two hours.
That's right.
Oh.
But Kirk's not letting anybody else know that.
No, no, no, no.
Play in close to the best.
So we're back on the Enterprise, thank goodness.
Well, hang on a second, man.
We see the fucking Genesis cave.
Oh, that's right.
Yes, this hollow earth.
It's awesome.
I think I saw a taradactyl flying around.
I mean, it's great.
They're like testing the Genesis device on this cave.
And they terraformed it.
She said it took like hour.
Where's the booze trees?
I was promised booze trees.
Kirk's like casually like chomping on some fruit in this scene too.
Yep, they got the hollow earth.
They've discovered the hollow earth down there.
And here's the thing about it, buddy.
Nobody's going to report this.
But the mole people, that was a genocide.
I'm going to have to get my son Tyrell.
Yep.
I have a son named Tyrell.
I bet you didn't know that.
And Sean Stone, that is Oliver Stone's son, who is also on my television program.
Oh, no.
What?
Yes.
That is insane.
Jesse Ventura had a TV show.
Yeah.
On the internet.
On Russia today.
Oh, my dear.
With Sean Stone and his son Tyrell.
Yelp, named after Blade Runner.
Don't think too much about it.
Yeah, I get it.
They were sort of the bad guys in that movie.
I just thought it was a cool name.
I'm going to get all my famous cook sons in one room.
Got Oliver Stone's son.
Alex Jones's kid is going to be there.
Roger Stone's son's going to be there.
I'll be honest.
I do ask about the turtle a few times.
I think Oliver Stone's never made a bad movie.
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but World Trade Center was my favorite movie of whatever year that came out.
I especially loved the part where Nicholas Cage saw the Lord God.
I mean, the Wolf of Wall Street was eaten off of W's plate, if you ask me.
God, double you.
James Cromwell is George Herbert Walker Bush.
That's some great casting, buddy.
Hold down.
I elected another George Bush.
Commit suicide.
I go away for a couple of hundred years.
You will go ahead and erect another George Bush
after the first one was a piece of shit.
I thought maybe Bob Dole, sure,
but another George Bush.
Here's a question about the Genesis cave, by the way.
Where's that fucking sunlight coming from?
I mean, I don't know what.
You catch this light source in there?
Is this a big spotlight?
Ed Harris is controlling it?
I don't get it.
more light sir more light
so anyway
yes we get beamed back up
and you know is this whole like
oh I meant two hours
gotcha so we're gonna cat and mouse
here kind of the you know this is kind of the third act
here it's weird because Carol Marcus
is like so important this movie she's like
well goodbye movie I'm a woman
I'll just be downstairs with O'Hura
braiding each other's hair
holding a bunch of books and coax
I got your birthday presents for when the movie's done
So yeah, it's man time now
And like basically like Khan is all rested up
He's ready to fucking blow him away
But they still don't have warp drive
So they can't fucking get out of there
So the move is we're gonna hide in this nebula
Which leads us to
I believe this is
And it's gonna be awesome to hear
My Bad Impression say it anyway
I think it's Sulu goes
Or maybe it's Spock, who cares?
Nebula penetration in 2.2 minutes.
Someone's penetrating something in two minutes.
Jim Kirk has said that on exactly 50 days.
The Reliance is chasing behind them, chasing them into the nebula.
I'm not saying it wasn't.
All right.
Sorry, we're going nebula town.
This guy again, cons number two is like, do we have to go in the nebula, sir?
I think this is the part where he's like, dude, the fucking ship is fine, man.
Let's just go.
We got the Genesis device.
We could sell that or something.
Spring break, motherfucker.
They got a fucking ship.
They've got the Genesis device.
They can do whatever they want.
They can go make their own planet somewhere.
They could shoot it at fucking Earth.
He's like, sir, this is your old friend, Joaquin, talking here, man.
I am thinking about getting the Beaver Patrol back together.
And we're going to create this planet.
to create our own spring break.
See, Jim is already seeing for,
Kirk is already seeing forward
to fucking Mountlebaum
fucking moving in next door to him in the future.
If he lets him go now.
If he lets him go, he will come back.
How will we ever become
wacky neighbors? This is the
I will chase him to perdition's flames.
Also very important to note that if they go in there,
the shields will be useless in the nebula.
Sure. Also, hey dude, sure.
You know what? Whatever.
man, whatever the fuck ever.
I mean, it's fine. It's just funny. It's just, you
explain it away with some Star Trek magic.
It's fine. There's a great thing, though,
and I know they're not saying this, but
doesn't it sound like they're calling it the
Motaro Nebula? Yes.
I think it is the Motara Nebula or something like that.
It's close, but not, but it should
just be the Mortal Kombat character. Oh, definitely.
The Midori Sour Nebula.
Oh, that sounds delicious,
Jim Boy. You know what? I'll do a
spacewalk for that one.
By the way, does anyone want to see my dead
room and I get Scotty, get that guy out of here. It's starting to
smell. Look, but now I put him in a freezer and it's kind of like
has the jack built and putting them in fun positions. I've got to
dress like Weekend at Berners. I've got a little blue
windbreaker and little black sunglasses. Oh, you're doing a
great job at the console nephew. He's pulling a cord and the dudes
waving. Oh, God damn it. You took all my Hawaiian shirts. Jim boy.
Weekend at Bernice, I remember that.
Oh, I remember that.
I remember the sequel, too.
I was around for both.
You know, Kirk, I was the president of the Jonathan Silverman fan club.
I love Cadizhap, too.
Gun!
Gun!
You know, the single guy was better than...
Seinfeld. Just
the saying. God!
Jamie, he's mad.
Seinfeld is a classic
American television show.
My favorite
character's Newman.
My second favorite character
is the puffy shirt.
I don't want to be a space pirate.
So, yeah, we're going to the Nebula
now and also like they're neither one's
camera is working so we can't really see where we're going or how to shoot. Great use of minimal score
here too. Yeah. I mean, the score is great all the way through, through and through. It's awesome,
but they use it really well here because it's like dead silent. They're like, where are you good?
Yeah. And then there's a great shot where like the viewer kind of fixes itself for a second. It's like,
oh, fuck, we're going to ram them. And that's what like the music comes back in. It's so perfectly
choreographed. And like we're kind of getting shots off on each other, et cetera.
Khan gets hit car hard again, man.
They keep fucking slamming this dude.
And the Enterprise also gets hit
and someone bursts into flames.
Oh, yes.
Because again, dude, engineering is getting
fucked in the face in this movie.
All right. I'm going to bring up
everyone who's dead. Everyone stay up there
on the bridge. I'm getting a, I'm getting
a dolly.
And the superhuman guy that keeps on
warning con is just like,
he gets hit. Yes. And then he's
just like, I told you so.
Well, because it was my side was like your superior intellect, which is like, fuck you, you ass.
Exactly. I've been following you for 200 fucking years. And I told you, told you to lay off 10 times. You know, I'm superhuman too.
You know, we're all superhuman, you know.
Exactly.
Also, this last round of hitting here, the Enterprise, the warp course starts leaking.
Yes.
Which is very important. So then Khan on his like kind of last, you know, he, he's all.
burnt up now. He kind of looks at the phantom of the
opera a little bit. Dude, he looks
like, this is great that you said that. Because
it's, imagine this combination. He looks
like if Roy Shider
played the Phantom of the Opera.
Because like, Roy Shider
famous for that fucking sick bass
tan. Yeah. But also like
because Khan, you know, it's Ricardo Montaubon
like it's his actual face. He's a wrinkly
old guy. But for all of these burns
and shit, they put this weird
like they flatten his
face. Yeah. So it looks like
kind of older, tanned plastic
surgery, Roy Scheider, it's
very weird. Well, because the burn has
more of a slop look to it.
Yeah, I, I, I, you know what?
If you're burning a face, it's got to be a dry
burn. I don't, I don't need a wet burn.
Well, especially with those bangs, I would be like, oh, my,
oh no, my bangs are burned into my
forehead. Now I will
fucking kill you, Gark.
From hell's heart, I stab at these.
Oh, absolutely. We're quoting some Moby Dick right here.
And it's fucking awesome, because what is he
No, no, no, not just engage the self-destruct mechanism.
He engages the Genesis device, dude.
Oh, man, not only am I going to blow this ship up.
I'm going to make both of us a planet.
I'm going to turn into like a bunch of squirrels or some shit.
Like the end of the Sonic DeHodge.
It would make a planet.
It would just like blast the nebula and kill everyone, right?
But it's literally what happens.
It makes a planet when it goes off at the end of the place.
Does it?
Yeah.
What the fuck are you talking?
Where the fuck do you think?
spot goes. Oh, right. Yeah, he lands on a planet. That
Khan made. That's Planet Khan, baby.
Setti Alpha Khan. You're resting on my balls.
Doesn't make a lot of sense. No, it doesn't. No, to your point, yes. I kind of
had that sort of logic problem last night, too, where I'm like, no, where is this? Because
the idea is you take a dead planet, you make a real planet, because that's what they're doing.
You don't make a planet out of, you don't make a planet out of a nebula. That's not what the
film told me earlier.
I'm cool with it.
I mean, it's all fine.
It doesn't matter. So he sets it off.
And much like my favorite movie into darkness,
something's wrong with the warp core. And the only way
to save it is if somebody goes down there
and fixes it. And this one,
this is ripping off into darkness in a huge
thing. It's kind of a huge problem for me, honestly.
Spock goes down there in this.
What? Yeah. Come on. I'm glad you brought it up. I'm glad
you were saying something.
the shot of Spock
like realizing what he has to do
and making the decision
knowing full well the consequences and just getting up
and leaving the bridge without saying anything
fuck is that awesome
it is so what a moment of heroism
in this movie it's great like well fuck it
I'm gonna die today he goes down there
and Scott is like the fuck am I gonna do
so James Duhan
is breathing into this fucking respirator
mask like he's just
run a marathon.
He,
Bones like,
I can't go in there,
Spock, you're gonna die.
And he's like,
oh, he's like,
no human can live in there.
And like, he has this great line.
Yep.
As you know,
as you're so fond
of telling me,
doctor, by the way,
I'm about to die.
I want you to feel like
shit when I do.
You've been riding my ass
for 30 years.
I'm walking in there
because of you.
All right,
Mr.
Get ready to get your
fucking ass lit on fire.
Are you ready?
There's a suicide.
note in my quarters and
you're all over it, mister. It just
says, Bones did
this. Hit Control
F on my suicide note.
You'll get 40 hits on
bones.
All right, here it comes
as you're so fond of
reminding me, doctor,
I'm only half
human.
Control F for Kirk.
Okay, oh, zero results. Oh, I'm good.
I'm in the clear. The entire
of my will
goes to
whoever kills you
nice Spock's millions
better third movie by the way
I've got a death warrant
on 12 systems
they don't like you either
buddy
but no he gives him
the nerve pinch
and he goes in there
and he's doing all this
remember yes
he gives him the nerve pitch
and then he gives him
the which apparently
was a reshoot
because they wanted to like
give their
a way out, which I don't think is super
I mean, it works, but it's not super necessary
like it's space magic anyway.
I feel like this is movie so smart
setting this all up because it's like if I'm just
watching this not knowing search for
Spock, it's like, well
that's that's that, but like it's amazing
that these little nuances
add those ways out. It's, it's
a good telegraph, but it's not too strong.
Exactly. It's also ripped off when
data uploads himself into B4
at the end of Star Trek. MIS's just as an
FYI.
So yeah, he's doing all sorts of some space gas cop, dude.
Sure.
He's lifting all this stuff.
He doesn't even really, like, kind of say goodbye.
Kirk is trying to get away.
He's like, we need that warp cord now, Mr.
I'm doing my best and we'll also be dead in four minutes,
you fat, fuck, hold on.
That's right.
I have minutes to live and I'm telling you like it is, Kirk.
Fucking finally, it's so freeing.
Oh, don't you think it's just bones in there?
Oh, you're all over it, mister.
Remember when you fought the gorn?
I wished for you to fucking die that day.
Well, technically soon it will be just bones in that warp unit, if you know what I'm saying.
He's dead.
So. Get it, he's dead.
So they do get away.
And he's, wow.
They're like, oh, man, Scotty, you did it.
One more magic trick.
He's like, oh, not really like, Captain.
You better get down.
here like real soon. No, dude, it's bones. And it's fucking great because it's like,
because he's yelling at Scott. He's like, Scotty, you did it. You did it. You did it. And Bones
just goes, better get down here. Better. Hurry. And you're like, oh, God. That's like, that's the
fucking phone call you don't want. I'm about to forget all Spock's consciousness. I got to tell you the
whole time. All the booze carts crashed. And all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all.
Also, Spock is dead.
That's bad news, Jim Boy, there's a whole lot of gray goose all over the containment unit here.
I'm crying my eyes out.
Also, the mess hall has stopped selling hot dogs.
Can you believe?
Oh, by the way, Spock is dead.
Oh, my crates of Romulan ale poured out over the, oh, yes, the Spock is dead.
Oh, Jim boy, look at this.
Oh, my CD collection melted.
He, like, grabs him the whole.
Don't go in, Ledger, boy.
Don't go in there.
There's all the corned bee's ashes all over the floor.
And also, yeah, Spock is dead.
But that's the...
My signed copy of Fowler, the leader, melted.
Also, Spock's dead.
I lost my pen and also Spockett.
It was a special...
Also, my special single vinyl of Got the Life.
It's melted.
Boom, jicca, big a jilloo, boom, jicca, boom.
also Spock's dead
so he does go down there
and there is
it's a great Scott Scottie Latt
he's like he's dead already
oh yeah dude oh Christ
that's tough and you know
Spock is behind the divider
you know he's in the warp core
room and it's like and it's just like
ship out of danger
oh yeah and he's kind of doing like a
dady divino penguin thing at the end of this movie
I just need
A cool drink.
Captain.
Yeah, it's, I gotta tell you,
I was crying.
It chokes me up.
I also get choked up in inner darkness.
I know it's stupid.
It's so stupid.
The performances are good enough.
It's manipulative, but it's fine.
What, in Rathocan?
No, in interdarkness.
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah, we're just fucking ripping it off.
Ripping it right off.
Like a bandage is rip it right on.
Steve, I heard that that's one of the movies
you're not supposed to like.
Oh, yeah, dude.
How dare us?
Yes, the internet.
You're not supposed to like that.
Lens flares.
Yeah, those are...
The internet says, you're not supposed to like that.
I like it fine.
But yeah, so, like, he's dying.
I have been, I always shall be your friend.
Holy fucking tits, dude, not a dry eye in this room.
There's a piece of trivia, which I totally believe.
It's probably fake.
But was it also Spock was making someone wait for the back?
and that's how he recognized somebody.
Kirk,
or I'm sorry, Shatner takes credit
for he was the one
who came up with the idea to put the
the hands to the hands
and glass. But he's like, my idea
was actually better. It was going to be
where you couldn't, where it was
actually an opaque screen where you couldn't
you could only see Spockin' silhouette,
which I totally believe.
Hey, what if you didn't see that son of a bitch?
And it was only my face.
I bought a Christmas ornament
of this scene. Oh, I wanted that.
Oh, I've seen. Wait a second. That's real?
Yes, it was going around the internet. They're like,
can you believe they would actually make this? And I saw it and I researched
and I'm like, I'm buying this immediately.
I've always just seen it. I thought it was like somebody fooling.
No, dude, it's real.
Wow, no fooling. It's got sounds too, like buttons you can press.
What does it say? It does a line from the movie of like, you will always be.
Nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're just crying on Christmas.
That's just.
Hashtag crying on Christmas.
It's fucking great.
That's sad.
That's very sad.
It's one of the stars of my tree.
Um, so yeah, he,
he passes away.
Yeah.
The makeup here in blue,
the makeup here in HD is not great.
No,
he looks like,
uh,
there's a movie.
I believe it's called like,
I was a teenage zombie or something like that.
It's like a cheap zombie movie from the 80s.
They shot it like fucking,
like out and like Nyack and parts of Long Island and shit.
Yeah.
Uh,
and the zombie.
makeup is fucking horrendous in that movie
and it looks exactly like this. It's just
like, put a couple of green
things here and yeah, that's radiation
poisoning. You got like eczema on your face.
That's what he looks like he just has a skin condition.
A very mild skin condition.
Yeah. So we are now
putting, what do you call it there?
It's a Spock's funeral. He's in a big
sunglass case.
It just says Oakley on it.
It's like Mark 6.
It's like, ooh, the nuke. Oh,
this has the new coffin's eyes.
love it. And also
like, you know, have a
living will where it's like, could you not just
dump me on a planet that was just made?
Like, I'd rather send me to Vulcan
send me to Earth. Like, also could my
mother be involved in the ceremony?
No, dude, this is like Spaceman. You're just getting
dumped at sea. It's just like the Navy.
We took on too much weight.
So, what I think
is wholly inappropriate about this is
James Duhan playing the bagpite.
I totally agree.
Like Spock hated the bagpice. Of course he
did. There's no more illogical instrument
than the bagpipes.
I hate all music, Jim.
I don't know about that, Steve. The fucking recorder
is pretty useless.
Well, we have
one request
in Spock's suicide note.
Oh, this is the crash test
dummies. It's a classic.
Although, what's this is a subsection
here? What's this? A article
7. Definitely
no bagpipes once there was a kid
got into an accident
and couldn't come to his good health
but when
he finally came back
hate
found
pot box all over he bite
good god
And not a dry eye in the house.
I don't know if that's in order even.
I mean, I'm not crying over bagpipes,
but I'll cry over.
All right now,
where have all the cowboys gone?
You know, Jim Boy, here's a question I had for Spock
right before he died of radiation poisoning.
What if God was one of us?
You know what I'm saying, Jim Boy?
Just a slob like one of us.
Yeah, he's looking at you.
Like a stranger on the bus, Jim boy.
Kirk's just looking out into the cosmos
after they've shot and Spocked out
and Poens comes up and he's like
How bizarre!
How bizarre!
So Kirstiali's crying here
Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
She's a Vulcan, but like
There's her favorite professor.
She rated him high on the, what was it?
A rate my professor.
So you could rate like if they're hot or not.
Well, she'd get, she's a hot professor.
Right before the funeral she gave him five stars.
Like, you know,
sir, you've earned it.
Well, I was reading something,
I don't know if it was on Wikipedia or the Tribune or whatever
where they're talking about because
like it's there's three instances in this movie
where she shows emotion, it's there.
Yeah.
It's when Scotty brings that fucking soon-to-be corpse up.
And then there's another.
Kobe Ash and Maru.
She says, damn.
Oh, right.
She says, damn.
And they're alluding to like,
she's quietly Spock's daughter.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
I think that's what the Tribune was saying.
That's a fan theory, my friend.
I mean, like, sure.
I believe that just as much as I believe
Chekhov held up the fucking bathroom for con.
Well, the trivia I read was that
there was a, there was a presentation of this
where Leonard Nimoy would talk in between
in like the commercial and he would do,
one of the parts was him explaining the character's background.
And he said that she's half Romulan, half Vulcan,
which wouldn't that make her a vampire?
I think that does.
That automatically makes you a vampire.
So they should.
shoot him out on this fucking, you know what?
He always wanted to be on a fucking deserted
planet where no one could visit his fucking
coffin. Dude, because, listen, it
means it lands somewhere. If you
just, like, ping out into space,
you're just going forever until you hit
something. But also, like, what is, I mean, I guess
it's the Mark Six, so it's good. Oh, you
want the Mark Six coffin. When they shoot it
at a planet, it will not pop open.
It is sealed, closed,
Mr.
Even on, the Mark, the Mark
Mark V's looked at were a disaster.
They were a total disaster. It's like a real
Beth with the muck five. They work
on gaseous planets. I know it doesn't make
any sense. They do work.
This is the Cadillac a coffins kid.
So the end of this
movie, well there is the Great Bones line of
like, he's not gone if we
remember him. Right. And also, I mean
this is, Kirk gives that fucking eulogy
man. Of all the people I've known.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Souls I've known or whatever.
His was the most human.
And I'm losing
it all over again. And there's a great scene with him
and David they kind of bring that back in
all right he says I'm proud
to be your son which is a great woman get ready
to get murdered by the Klingons
he was the most
human which is
better than any other species
out there across the universe
even his own and then when his son dies
he was the most
Vulcan
I'm really confused
never forgive them
for the death of my boy there's a weird
I mean it's good but it's
kind of whatever, where they're like, you know,
or McCoy's like, you know, Jim, are you all right or whatever?
And he's like, young.
I feel young.
Yeah, I kind of like that line.
I mean, it's thematically, it makes sense.
But it's also, it is kind of like, you know,
I feel really young at my best friend's funeral.
Man, I feel top of the world.
Well, think about it this way, man.
Think about how young Kevin Costner's funeral made all the people in the big chill.
That's true.
Everyone's getting laid that night.
that's right dude they go back to kirk's fuck pad they're listening to hurt it through the grapevine they're all dancing making dinner you know i've got a shot at savick tonight
i'd be a fool not to take it absolutely i feel like a young man again and then like kirk commits insider trading with scotty or whatever happens in the big chill
con i need well no con's dead but anyone got a line on one of those worms makes my erection last i have to wrap it up literally
So we get another choke up.
You get the fucking
the opening monologue there, but it's done
by Spock this time.
Oh, yeah.
The second you hear that, which I believe
they let him do.
It was a ghost talking.
At the end of one of the Abrams movie.
Trivia said it was a ghost talking.
Oh, that is.
He's a Star Trek Beyond ends that way, probably.
One of the newer Star Trek movies, I think,
also ends with him doing it.
Star Trek Beyond's really good.
It is good.
It is good.
It's just, it's obvious.
just a weird 90s
action movie wrapped up in a big
Star Trek, but I'm okay with it.
And it's not like, hey, remember
the Rathcon, here it is backwards.
You know what I mean? At least it's like an original story.
Yeah. What if the
Star Trek world,
just hear me out.
Had a bunch of motorcycles
into it. Just make
Star Trek mission impossible.
But that movie also, dude,
because that movie came out
like right sort of
like right after Anton Yelchen
died. Leonard Nimoy had died
dude I was
fucking crying in that theater
during the credits. Holy tits dude
twice. It's a movie full of ghosts.
He finds out that
like Ambassador Spock died
so like Zachary Quinto's like
oh that fucking sucks and I'm like
oh god they killed him he's dead twice
now. I'm
so pathetic.
Yeah, yeah, it chugged me up. Definitely choked me up.
But yeah, he says that, and they make some changes to it.
It's like the continuing adventures of the Starship Enterprise Roads.
Give us another movie, please.
Yeah.
Well, it's because Kirk has some line where he's like, by the way, we'll have to come back to Genesis and see if Spock sprouted yet.
Because he has a captain's log right here.
And it's something about returning to Genesis to check it out.
Well, then, you know, maybe we'll come back in a hundred.
years to see what's going on.
No, then they cut to it
and there's this shot of
the capsule that Spock is in.
Frank Sinatra starts
singing, fly me to the moon.
Is that the end of space
cowboys? That is indeed, the end of space cowboys.
You love
Space Cowboys. We like Star Trek on this show, but
you love Space Cowboys.
It is honestly maybe the stupid
stupidest astronaut movie ever made.
It's fucking 10,000% to stay tuned, except I'll say, unless it's Scott Eastwood and then it's cheating.
But I don't think it is the guy that they have playing young Clint Eastwood in that movie is, it's fucking spot.
Oh, don't they dub the voices?
They dubbed the voices.
It's the stupidest fucking thing.
He actually looks like it.
Nobody else looks like James Garner, Timberley Jones.
Who's the fourth guy?
Oh, Joe Pashy.
Donald Sutherland.
Oh, Sutherland.
Right, yeah.
You see his buns in that movie.
Yes.
We got Sutherbuns.
We got Sutherbuns.
I'm pretty sure.
He fucks.
Southern Buns fucks.
I'm pretty sure.
Would anybody like to smoke some space pot?
Maybe I'm mixing it up.
In any event, yeah.
That's the movie man.
And it's the fucking best Star Trek movie.
Fight me on it.
No, I mean, that's just almost objective.
It just is what it is.
You know what's interesting to me, though,
is I believe in the last few years,
search for Spark has had a little bit of a re-eval.
That would be rules.
It's good. I've always, I've always,
my favorites of the TOS air have always been too,
three and six. Yeah. Yeah.
Totally. I'm a two, three, one, six.
I'm a sucker for four and it's
only because there's time travel.
Four is good. Four is good. Four I used
to not be as into and
watching more and more lately
in family function settings.
I've gotten really into it. Also,
because it's got a great environmental message.
So that's a cool thing that like Nimoy was
very passionate about when he directed that movie.
I'll do your fucking movie. We're saving
the goddamn whales. Gotta save something.
It worked for Superman. It's got to work for us.
So we'll continue sort of how we do, we're doing the We Love movies situation with this
because we don't normally recommend, you know, Nexus shit.
But in this case, does the Rath of Khan hold up and how often do you revisit this movie?
I mean, it totally holds up. I mean, the special effects look great.
I don't know. The Blu-rays weren't up special affected.
I didn't think so, but a super fan and friend of the show, Drew Stewart, tell us what's going on with that, buddy.
Yeah, because I think that they look gorgeous.
They look gorgeous.
They look gorgeous.
And they seem very period accurate.
I love the aesthetics.
I mean, the aesthetics are fucking for days.
Like, I thought like watching it last night, I was like, wait, when was this?
This is like late 80s, right?
No, early 80s.
82.
This movie helped like establish science fiction for the decade.
Also, it's the same year as Blade Runner.
So it was.
Shit, we're not the best science fiction movie that year.
Yeah.
But fuck.
It's neck and neck.
It looks really great.
Both of those movies are amazing.
I mean, I've only seen this twice.
I probably want to see it every couple of years now.
Like I'm definitely,
I was way excited to see this.
And now I'm kind of like,
when can I watch surface for a spot?
I might find some time next week.
Do it, man.
Go right in.
It's great.
Chris?
It's great.
I mean,
it was immediately my favorite one of these
after seeing it from start to finish.
So that should speak.
And I mean, yeah,
I remember seeing parts of this when I
went through. I have seen all the other ones
all the way through. I just don't know what happened when I watched
this. Probably bad gas. That's possible.
You had to turn it off because you had bad gas.
It's possible. Like, well, I'm farting through this movie. I'll have to watch it. Every time
I fart, I stop a movie. It's true. Space Gus
Captain. So, and all the model work is really good. Everything looks good. Yeah,
very good. Yeah. No,
is fantastic. My in-laws are Trekkies.
Oh, nice. So every Christmas, we usually at least watch a couple Star Trek movies.
You know, it's not always the wrath of Khan, but, you know, I would say every two to three years,
I definitely re-watch this movie and it's great. Is there, and it can go both ways here,
is there a movie that either you or the in-laws suggest that, like, the other party would
immediately shoot down? Like, no, I'm not fucking watching.
or is
anything up for grabs
are you talking
like TNG movies too
Abrams shit?
TOS online
okay
yeah
okay
yeah
but I might now
I might want to do
search for Spock
after this now
yeah
yeah
I mean obviously
it holds up
and it was weird
because I
love these movies
I've seen
the search
or I've seen
Rath the Khan
probably 50 times
it's a weird
like I growing up
had this
and part five
on
for some unknown reason. I think I just found them singularly, like in a coconuts and just bought them.
I've found them.
But yeah. Did you say coconuts, Jim?
I hadn't revisited this in a long time, so it was nice. Because I read Nicholas Meyer's book a while ago and sort of watched it then to kind of get in the mindset or whatever. But that was years ago. So it was nice to revisit. I think I'm going to turn and search for Spock on like as soon as you leave. I have the box set of the TOS movies.
Ditto. It's a great boxing. A lot of fun.
So that is, oh, oh, oh, what's going on? A little addendum here.
Oh, an addendum. Steve Sadek with a slash fiction here.
Sadek surprise. I've got, uh, I want to do a little toast.
Uh, we've just wrapped up. Oh, my God. Wow.
This is, this is, this is. Steve Sadek just passed around little maker's marks whiskey bottles.
We're not being paid for saying makers marks, which by the way, which is a,
which is a problem.
I had to buy these at the liquor store
and I felt like the world's biggest
alcoholic because only alcoholics drink these.
A little nip to get me to the job site.
Because the guy was like,
he was trying to sell me.
He was like,
dude,
you know,
you can buy like the half pint
and it's gonna,
it's gonna be cheaper
and it's more liquor.
I was like,
no man,
because I got friends.
And he was like,
yeah,
friends.
You call your demons friends?
That guy was laughing at you
and you left the store.
So no,
what is the occasion?
The occasion is we just finished probably the biggest month in the show's history.
We've been doing this for eight freaking years.
And everyone listening right now, by the way, we'll get a drink.
Get it either legal or otherwise.
Yeah, we'll wait.
Yeah.
All right.
But we would not do this show without you guys.
We're doing this on the $8 level only.
But, you know, it means a lot.
This show would have ended a long time ago without.
Oh, yeah.
Patreon and all the people.
Oh, yeah.
write in and do stuff like emails or fan art, all that fun stuff.
I was so ready to walk away.
Oh, Eric gives up really easily.
I can't open mind.
But no, so that and plus honestly, this show, we're all in our mid-30s now.
It's hard to do.
This year was like the biggest year of the show.
We had to add another episode a month.
You know what I mean?
We've never missed a broadcast date.
We've never, like, failed a deadline that has to do with everybody in this room.
Let's congratulate ourselves on every episode.
That's for this episode.
only, and I will toast. Thank you, Steve.
But also, I will, because people are
paying for Star Trek-related content, I will
do this in a Klingon toast.
Oh, my God. Here we go.
This is, gurd your loy and
sucker punch. This is, may your
blood, it translates loosely
into, may your blood scream.
Ooh. Which is,
ladies and gentlemen, listening, thank you all.
You will,
you will, jac-ch-chage.
You will jac-ch-chage.
You will jack-chage.
Evil Jack Chaws was a friend of mine
and you are no evil jackshaws.
Evil Chop House.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
That's good stuff.
So thank you for continuing to support this weird thing.
That's what I'm just going to call it, man.
It's a weird thing.
You know, it's bizarre.
We never expected any of this.
So honestly, thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
And until next month, I'm Andrew Jupin.
Stephen Seda.
Chris Gavin.
Eric Cisca, drinking whiskey.
Rock Chaj.
Romulan Ale.
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