We Hate Movies - S12 Ep581: Casablanca

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

This week, the gang kicks off another We Love Movies month with a chat about an absolute banger from the Classic Hollywood era, Casablanca! How shocking is it that Rick Blaine is supposed to be just... 37 years old here? Has there been a sexier Resistance fighter than Paul Henreid? And how many coats did Peter Lorre lose over the years to people drawing M's on his back with chalk? PLUS: Bogie and Lorre read for Clerks!  Casablanca stars Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, Paul Henreid, Claude Rains, Conrad Veidt, Sydney Greenstreet, Peter Lorre, S.Z. Sakall, and Dooley Wilson as Sam; directed by Michael Curtiz. Be sure to catch WHM's last show of the year this Thursday in Brooklyn! WHM Merch Store Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 this week on the program. It is the start of the 2021. We Love Movies Month. And we're kicking things off with a real bang. It's Casablanca. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. And we love movies. Hello, all you fine folk out there. Welcome to We Love movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. We're talking about a big one. It's Casablanca from 1942, directed by Michael. Kurtz, you may know him as the director of the Adventures of Robin Hood. Great movie. Captain Blood. Great movies. The Seahawk. Hell yeah. Good movie. And then one of my all-time
Starting point is 00:01:07 faves, Mildred Pierce. Yeah. Great stuff. He did two C-movies. Seahawk and the Seawolf. That's the show of the master. What's that? A dog falls on the ocean? That's exactly what it is. How did you know that? Is that a Bonnie Prince Billy album? The Sea Wolf did I mix that up? Probably also.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Okay. It's an Edward G. Robinson movie. Very good. Fallin in the water Do it's a Bonnie Prince Billy singing Now Matt could you just play for like an hour Just Oh I don't play those old Bonnie Prince Billy song Sam That's how I fell in love with my wife
Starting point is 00:01:41 Back at the pitchpork Look we did Super Wolf We did Super Wolves Now it's Sea Wolf And the next CURtees picture I'm doing a voice of a dog Falls into some water Bark bark
Starting point is 00:01:56 Oh no Don't play that arcade fire song Sam My heart can't take it I told you not to play reflector anymore You know why It's really when the band fell apart Honestly Disagree
Starting point is 00:02:10 Oh that's a great album Yeah this is one So what is the count now To bring back an old gag Is this two This is a numeral dose What Of me seeing Cuzzlebone
Starting point is 00:02:22 Oh, right. Okay. Very early days in the show. The show's been running, by the way. Oh, yeah. Sometime around now, 11, God, God, am year. It's always running. We're into year 12. Technically, we're into year 12.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Check your watch. We A movies is running. Better go catch it. Go download it. Oh, wait, you already did. And we are full of food as well. Earlier on in the show's run, there's a bit where I would say, oh, I saw this silly movie that we're recovering,
Starting point is 00:02:48 but I've never seen Casablanca. And sure enough, my wife put a stop to that pretty early on and I finally watch it. It was great. But I never went back to it because I don't really go back to a lot of stuff these days. I don't have a ton of time unless it's a, unless it's clerks which I watch every year for no reason. Do you really watch
Starting point is 00:03:04 clerks every year? No, like I actually just rewatch it like a couple of weeks ago and I'm like, because I was just like kind of burnt down. I just want to watch something and I was like why am I watching this again? Didn't I watch this last year? They would be great with Bogart, you know? Like you were here. Suck 27 dicks. Yeah, all you're way to your parking lot. Don't suck any dick.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I wasn't even supposed to come in today. See, that's the thing. That's what drives me nuts about this movie in a good way, I guess, because he's 37 years old, the character. And he's lived such a rich and vibrant life. And meanwhile, my generation, not even my generation, the one right before, Dante Hicks. That was like the highest you could strive for.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Noit, noich, smoking, blunt, doing weed. What do you say there, Silent Bob? Oh, Silent Bob. would you like to making fuck berserker Peter Lorry Salsa shock By the way
Starting point is 00:04:04 This is just So only my second time Seeing Casablanca F why I just put that out there It is the Christopher Lambert impression essentially Yes
Starting point is 00:04:11 Because it's I mean But he does sound like that Yeah All the time It's a great voice It's the same voice It's the same voice He looks
Starting point is 00:04:20 Like that guy Peter Lorry. Yeah, he looked like. I guess that's the difference is Peter Lorry never tried to be dashing. Yeah. God bless him. He knew he looked like a scumbach.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I would say he was probably the most handsome child molester I've ever seen. Was he a child? I was going to check his personal life section on Wikipedia, but I feel like there's a very large paying for it. Fritz Lang's M. Maybe we'll do that next year.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Oh my God, dude. It's just us eerily whistling for an hour and a Although I do feel Eric points out this, I do think Pierlory had to point out. No, on screen, I child killer, Emma. No, no, no. I understand how I look. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Stop writing that M on my back in chalk. That was from a movie. Ruining all my coats. I guess that was like a friend of- Here you go, Mr. Lerner. Are you kidding me? I just, I went to the museum. I wanted to check my coat
Starting point is 00:05:17 and someone put an M on it. It's hot in here. I didn't want to be sweating in the museum And now my coat is ruined Who just goes around with chalk Ready to do such things It's M for murderer, right? Because it's not, he's like more of a Freddie Kruger
Starting point is 00:05:33 Because it's like, we're not showing kids Being dittled, it's like I mean that wasn't invented yet Yeah, we were just killing We were kind of walking around in that movie I don't know the implications It's been a while. It's been a while.
Starting point is 00:05:45 He's definitely killing children. Yeah, God, God bless him. That fucking balloon going up in the air, man. That's so great. That just means they walked away. You see that? No, no, that's very innocent. I understand.
Starting point is 00:05:57 You misunderstood it. They just walked away. You had a good dime. No, she dropped the balloon. She just let it go by accident. We are going to the zoo. You have reached. Peter Lorry.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I don't know. Let's do that earlier today and I don't know why that makes me laugh. Believe it or not, Peter is in. at home please leave a message at the beep it would be at the scream by the way did you hear this boys that Peter Lorry got into
Starting point is 00:06:31 fralph it's half frisbee half golf this was supposed to be the summer of Peter that was just stays in his apartment eating a block of cheese what are those sweatpants uh yeah it's you know
Starting point is 00:06:46 much like Citizen Kane before it and it's a wonderful life like how do you do an episode on some of the most famous films ever produced in Hollywood? I guess we'll see what happens here. If you are unaware, this is a movie
Starting point is 00:06:59 really, really hitting home on some World War II criticism while World War II going on. Right, which is amazing, right? I feel like now, because if you think about the way Hollywood responded back then, very patriotic with the war effort or whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:15 right. Nowadays, you know, I don't really, you know, because it's just like, make something like zero dark 30 years after all, that specific incident of torture happened. I mean, it got green like within a couple weeks of the Pearl Harbor happening. It happened like right after that. But it would be cool nowadays if we got an attack and rafter we get like Captain Casablanca or like Thor dashed Casablanca.
Starting point is 00:07:43 The media in the 40s wouldn't do like meet new dashing white nationalist, you know, George Lincoln Rockwell or whatever. or Edel Fittler, whoever was hot at the moment. But, I mean, we did have a spate of that in the early part of the Iraq war, of the early quarter of it. Oh, God, right. Like rendition and. Oh,
Starting point is 00:08:03 Lions for Lambs. I'm thinking. That was the Tom Cruise is a senator type of thing. Jarrehead was kind of that, but not really ill. I mean, that was a first storm. But it came out at that time for that reason. Hurt Locker was great, though. I'm going to say, is that the only good, even great movie of that ill?
Starting point is 00:08:20 of like sort of early like 0-607. You know what has aged well as stop loss? Okay. I thought that movie actually, it's, I went back to it. It's really good. Which one is that? It's Joseph Gorn Levitt, Channing Tatum. They're all like, they, they are on break, like, before deploy, re-deployment.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Vaguely, you remember that. Boys Don't Cry director did it? Kim Pierce, I think her name is. Some of these movies are, you know, critical of the government, I guess. And these movies are very gung-ho. But, I mean, you're fighting. World War II, it's a different. Stop loss, the whole point is like, yeah, war destroys you.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah. It literally, like, kills your life and makes you not want to live it anymore. So, like, that was, I think you were getting less and less movies about, we shouldn't be doing this. And more movies are like, look what it's doing to our boys. I mean, I think this movie's not so gung-ho. I mean, it is, I mean, you can definitely read it as patriotic. It's not a propaganda, but I mean, like, it doesn't exactly,
Starting point is 00:09:18 like the Americans don't save the day. I mean, it's also pretty easy to be like, Nazis are terrible. Yes, yeah, exactly. I mean, although it's, it's brave at the time, braveish at the time, you know what I mean? Yeah, the bravery is, we won't turn you into the Nazis, okay? Oh, God. We promise. Shit.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I mean, I guess it's also like, even the most cynical American can come back to the fold. Yes, that's a good point. Yeah, man, Rick, what a guy. Oh, man. I need, ah, you know, I'm going to go, and this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. I'm going to go back and sell Warbonds. That's what you should do, folks.
Starting point is 00:09:55 See, that's the thing, right? It doesn't do that. But those movies exist. You watch, like, old Hollywood things were, like, in the opening credits, it's like, better go by Warbonds. Now the motion picture. Brought to you by Jack Warner, like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:08 This is absent of all of that, which is nice. Well, it's all focused on him specifically. He's like a jilted, I mean, like, it's like, you know, I didn't want to get to war again after I got my heart broken World War I. You know, I don't know if I want to go back out there, put my heart on the line again. The character of Rick is amazing
Starting point is 00:10:25 because he's such like an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Absolutely. I just love that all those little nuances like everyone calls him something different. There's Richard. There's Rick. There's, well, boss, I guess. But that's more of a... Yeah, Mr. Blaine, I guess, in some circles.
Starting point is 00:10:42 He's in a really interesting character. And again, like this time I have a little notebook out or really watched it. I think that like he it's a great anti-hero you know what I mean like he's not I mean he's heroic but he resists the call he's not sticking out his neck for anyone exactly like Han Solo-esque you know what I mean it's a complex character which is nice for a leading man it doesn't happen too often anymore like chewy we're home like you actually have to the character actually has to change his mind like at the like that's like very few movies are actually hinging on that one point the
Starting point is 00:11:13 you're just like, ah, you really don't believe this, right? Yeah, come on, do the right thing. But that is kind of what's incredible about the end of this movie is this dude turns down a lady friend because he knows that her leaving will help support the French resistance, the resistance on the whole, you know what I mean? And that's like, that's fucking great. I supremely love that this movie has a bittersweet ending. It's not a, like, sad ending.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It is just a straight up awesome, bittersweet ending. Yeah. I'm going to go on vacation. with my cop friend. We're going to hide out for a little bit. My incredibly crooked cop friend who is like extorting ladies for sex. We're going to stamp that down, but it's absolutely in this way. It's all over this movie.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Claude Raines just doing that quick tie check in the mirror in that one scene. Yep. I'm going to be needing a literal and figurative wingman here because I don't know how to fly. I do love. So that's the thing. It's like, I really think it's Peter Laurie's voice because he's no less. gummy than fucking Claude Raines' character here. No.
Starting point is 00:12:17 But it's just like... You could argue he's better. That guy just bugs me. You know, he starts with it. You know, he's like, you despise me. He's like, no arguments here. And it's just like, this other dude is like really extorting ladies for saying. What was it?
Starting point is 00:12:32 It was something like if I, if I thought of you, maybe I would despise you. Oh, my Lord. God, get down. Quiet, Rick. You're getting me hard when you talk like that. I read that. Laurie and you know the the
Starting point is 00:12:46 fat black market guy Ferrari and yes the pick pocket are supposedly supposed to be coated as Italian just to loop in some more access powers get some of the
Starting point is 00:12:57 the fascists in there yeah I mean the dude's name is literally Ferrari yeah I mean I thought that was obvious from the like there's those two flunkies the Italian and the French are like I like Adolf Hitler more
Starting point is 00:13:08 no you like you don't go back and forth like no I love him the most those guys are great they're funny coming off the when they're picking up a major Strausser at the airport
Starting point is 00:13:19 oh yeah that dude rules yeah Conrad Viet totally I have one of his mustache hairs I have that
Starting point is 00:13:27 what do you have nothing imagine we could clone that well they kill it every day yeah sure yeah you just hold it in your mouth to feel closer to them
Starting point is 00:13:36 just have the DNA in your mouth I'm not a big fan of hair and mouth now generally no foot and mouth, you totally find out. Oh, I get that every day. Yeah. I love the opening. I love a good map. Yeah. Oh, my God. The smoky globe and everything. Like, we're going to like pretend it's clouds, but it's just like they're just smoking cigarettes in the room. It was just the collective crew all smoking at the same time while they were trying to light and film the globe.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Quit it. You're fogging up the map. No, boss, don't you think it looks kind of neat? Look at it. It's like a foggy earth or something. All right. I said just no cigars in here, just cigarettes, okay? A light day. Some dude with one of the big Homer Simpson World's Fair cigar. But it's so great because they're talking about how, you know, the way a lot of folks were escaping the Nazi regime to get to America was this, you know, big circuitous route to get to Lisbon, Portugal, and you would get on a ship and go to go to America.
Starting point is 00:14:40 so people escaping Paris specifically is Paris to Marseilles across the sea to Iran across a little desert there to Casablanca. I think about that every time if it... Not just when I'm watching the movie
Starting point is 00:14:54 if just the name Casablanca appears somewhere in my head I'd just go to Casablanca solid announcing by whoever this guy was. Casablanca is essentially limbo in this movie. You're waiting to find out if you're going to move on to heaven.
Starting point is 00:15:09 a.k.a. Lisbon. When you should have been killed in World War II, you appear in Casablanca, and it's like, do you get called up to heaven? That is America for some laughable reason. And then you talk to John Locke and you see what he knows about this whole thing. It is, I mean, it's a great setting for any piece of drama. Like, just the, and they do, you know, obviously like there's the announcing in the beginning is very economical and gets you right into it. But like, once you see the denizens of city like people trying to sell for diamonds and like all these desperate miserable people
Starting point is 00:15:44 all the things people are doing to get exit papers yes exactly it's totally it's totally fascinating well it's like you're miserable on vacation which you know everyone can relate to like you stay one extra day and you're like fuck or your flight gets delayed and you're like shit i just want to go home and it's the it's the perfect uh like waiting obviously you know so we have to stay in a single location more or less perfect for drama perfect specifically for stage drama which is what this was based on a play called Everybody Comes to Ricks
Starting point is 00:16:14 but yeah I just I love I love holding patterns situations like this and it's like because that's also very economical we got we got the cafe we got Ferrari's Blue Parrot other cafe we got the police station
Starting point is 00:16:30 and that's kind of in the marketplace yeah the marketplace for sure and they use it Kurti I mean Curtis does use I mean he's a great director he uses all this so well like the actual space he gets in these places like it's not flat that's the problem with all these movies that are based on plays yeah everything feels very flat like you don't have
Starting point is 00:16:49 any sense of space about being in the room you're in he gets around that like beautifully yeah and you know some people have like criticized like the lack of interesting camera work and his work in general but like you look at this movie and like the reveal of rick is amazing and the camera moves when it moves pay the fuck attention other you know other than that it doesn't you know it's like maybe two or three shots. But it doesn't feel static to Chris's point. Like it does feel full and rich. The Bogart reveal is a fucking all-timer.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Absolutely. Even when you watch it, it's actually better when you watch it multiple times knowing what it is because it's that anticipation of like, where's bogey, where's bogey, where's bogey? And it's like the shot of him signing the check. This is how I want to start signing checks, by the way. Okay, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You see him write it and you see the hand and then it like pulls back and up. and there he is in all his fucking leathery glory. Follows that cigarette up to the catcher's mitt. Fine, you win. Humphrey Bogart. So we are told that there were some German couriers carrying some exit visas and they were mysteriously murdered in the night.
Starting point is 00:17:56 It's kind of interesting. Like, you know, the whole like these exit papers signed by General de Gaul. Can't be questioned. You know, it's just like, wait, why do these Germans have it? It's a golden ticket. Exactly. Exactly. What I'm saying is they should do a prequel film called Rogue Zero about stealing these.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But I guess it makes sense that Germans would have exit papers that are French signed by DeGall that maybe they could give to a spy to use or something. Or it's all just a money thing. I mean, because I think everything's corrupt. In this movie, Peter Lorry is also playing German. Yes. Am I wrong on that? I think he's Italian. That's what I had read that
Starting point is 00:18:40 that he's supposed to be playing. That's Italian? I mean, it doesn't sound particularly German. I don't know. I think it's just the swamp of Europe. I was just playing the creep. Yeah, exactly. Check him to your shoes.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I mean, it's hard to separate Peter Lorry from his history in the German film industry. I mean, I would have loved, you said it now, and I can't stop. Rogan 1 would have been like, like, it's fucking, it ends with like, Strasser takes out of, fucking lightsaber. Just starts wasting fools. That's where he was before this.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Why didn't straw searchers waste everybody in the next movie? Why was he even more stilted in the, oh, I don't know. Because I am classy. I am a classy general. I read that there is a prequel slash sequel novel. You sent this link and I read the like description. Dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of. Well, we get confirmation that Rick is Jewish or something.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So clap, clap, clap. How much money did the author of this give to Trump? Well, he worked with, funny you mentioned, he worked with Breitbart. But anyway, the novel's called As Time Goes By and Details Them Trying to Kill Some Nazi After the events of the movie And it says, I don't fucking give a shit.
Starting point is 00:19:55 It's sort of like a two-timeline thing where you're getting Rick in New York like before the events of the film And then directly afterwards where he and Louis and Sam go to France like they go back to France
Starting point is 00:20:11 and they're trying to help Victor Laslow and Ilsa's like a fucking spy doing so it is horse hockey. She's like a honey pot for some like Nazi general and I'm like why is this why didn't anyone think this was a good idea? Cool fucking fan fiction idiot. Yeah. We're like
Starting point is 00:20:27 the A team. Me and Sasha you know we find the documents. We get the guns and Sam plays the piano. Oh my God. Just does that all the time. Sam, great in this movie. Doley Wilson? Yep. Which the funniest fucking thing I read in eons was how he got his stage name of Dooley
Starting point is 00:20:46 where he was apparently he got nicknamed that while working in Chicago because then his signature Irish song, he would do an Irish song called Mr. Dooley and he'd wear a white face and pretend to be like an Irish drunkard or whatever. I love it. It's fucking great. I want to see this. Can I see this?
Starting point is 00:21:05 No, you can't. I would love to see that as well. I don't know. Maybe it exists somewhere, but I don't think so. No, you can. He's dead for 70 years. Look, get Doc Brown on the phone. Look, this is more important than fucking McFly. Marty, we got to go back in time.
Starting point is 00:21:17 We have to see Dooley Wilson do whiteface. I don't know why. This fact guy just wanted to. I mean, I feel like he's going to be disappointed. But him playing an Irish guy was so popular that it changed his name. truly so that's the thing is you with that especially like vaudeville I guess you ought to be like oh that's the guy that does the
Starting point is 00:21:38 Irish shit get that dude like it's in his name now I know I bet it was great too I bet it would be don't get me Sam Shalaley Sam Shalaley I do love just like this one dude gets shot in the back and this other guy is just this vultures all around
Starting point is 00:21:56 vultes everywhere just pickpockets those old fuck that dude's awesome yeah no I love the guy they're like, oh, where's your papers? And he's like, oh, I left them. Oh, no, they're right here. And then the guy's like, uh, yeah, Ziz are expired. And he just tries to make a break for it. He is assassinated.
Starting point is 00:22:12 You see he has papers. He's a member of the French resistance. But yeah, that it's awesome because there's like, there's people waiting in Castle Blanket to escape. And then there's just like fucking rich people who are there on vacation, like this old couple. And the guy's like, oh, I seem to have left my wallet at the hotel. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And then just criminals, the lovely, lovely criminals. And, you know, I'm not always about, like, you know, it was better back then or anything. In this particular situation, it was, these, like, diamond exchanges going on, all this, like, little, the document, here's your passport, your secret pad. What do you got now? Here's your jerk off material in this fucking the, the cafeteria next to the bodega. Oh, I have all these NFTs that I'm using the laundering. No. Just, you.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Oh, Rick, I just need some NFTs so I can pay to get out of the country. This ape smoking a cigar, just hide it in your piano. And then I will be, oh, don't screenshot it. Oh, shit. Well, listen, Major Strausser, no one knows where the ape smoking the piano is, okay? Here is your fake fentanyl. Enjoy the hot bar downstairs. Yeah, you know, criminal activity, maybe a little more interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So much more interesting. You're right. it's just doop-dooped-up on the computer. No one's putting the FaceTime in to get out there in the streets and be shot. You got a dupe-duped up, see? Yeah, so, yep, the arrival of Major Strasser, he's a big deal, Nazi official. And he's greeted this, like you mentioned, Eric, played by Conrad Veed. He's met by Captain Louis Rinald, the great Claude Raines, the invisible man himself.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yeah, King. Who I think is just fucking totally great in this movie. but yeah everybody comes to ricks we get right there and it is man i'll tell you what i was watching this movie at like nine o'clock this morning i wanted a fucking glass of champagne and a pack of cigarettes and i wanted to like play some cards this movie the atmosphere that is created inside rick's cafe american is fucking awesome and that's direction direction isn't just camera movements it's not like you know what i mean it's not flashy shit it's actually if you feel something in the shot that's direction
Starting point is 00:24:30 That would be nice. It's nice that Curtis went to those troubles. I'd be the fucking, like, the thing with Renault is, I'm like, how, when was last time you remember somebody being so joyfully corrupt? Like, it's such a perfect pitch. Donald Trump. No, because, like, he was always like, oh, they're after me. Oh, they're going to get.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Like, he's always paranoid about it. Yeah, he was always that. But no, Renault's just like, yeah, corrupt as hell. Fuck you. He's smooth, man, you know? And he's like a playboy and stuff. it. It makes it hard to hate him. Yes. It makes it really hard.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Like when you, when the crimes are laid out, he like murders Peter Lorry for pretty much no reason. He murders people. He coerces women into sex. He, he, you know, he betrays and backs. He's an average French guy. Regularly sending friends to the hands
Starting point is 00:25:20 of the Nazis. Uh-huh. Absolutely. And like that should tell you about what exactly the mood of America was probably right up until Pearl Harbor. Yes. Was kind of like, yeah, that's bad, but, yeah. And I mean, at this point, it's like, this is still unoccupied France. He doesn't have to do shit for the Nazis. Yes, but he wants, he knows where the prevailing wins, you know, he knows where it's going to go or whatever. That's right. Yeah. I love, uh, right here at the
Starting point is 00:25:46 beginning, there's, um, so Ricks has the secret, like, casino in the back room. And it's fucking Humphrey Bogart, like, refusing this German guy access. And he's like, but I've gambled all over the world. You tell me, I can't come to you. little piss at bar and gamble? And he's like, yeah, that's right, fuck face. I mean, this hidden room, it's like a door that has a sign that says gambling inside. No, it says definitely no gambling.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, I mean, because that's the thing, right? You're in a place like Casablanca in the fucking 40s. You kind of don't have to hide that stuff. You have to hide that stuff. Yes. And then this is what Peter Lurie shows up and he kind of explains to Rick that, you know, I guess he knows that something's going to go down.
Starting point is 00:26:32 He's got a buyer coming in. It's, you know, he's going to sell all these papers and, like, make well and Rick'll get a finder's fee. He just holds on to him. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And this is where, you know, he's like, oh, yeah, exit papers, huh? A couple of crowds got offed
Starting point is 00:26:49 with some exit papers I heard about that earlier today. You wouldn't know anything about that. Would you just come back? And he's like, no, I promise, I do not.
Starting point is 00:26:56 The great thing is he goes, he says, like after the you despise me don't you he's like oh you think I'm a parasite or something like that Bogart's like I don't mind a parasite I don't mind a parasite I mind a cut rate parasite it's like you are not even good at being a scumbag that's what he thinks of this guy
Starting point is 00:27:16 I wonder how he murdered those German soldiers though right he whined them to death yes you put that in the prequel film right yeah how oh how did you got to get those papers no ticket I'll definitely follow you to wherever you want to go but first can I mix you a drink
Starting point is 00:27:40 yeah this thing is like these were just men you know these couriers or just mailmen really maybe seduce them or something you know I like that any number of things please let me show you to the bathroom opens it up and it's like one of those train cars and you just push it up it's a big toilet
Starting point is 00:27:55 just go in the desert is kind of a big toilet. It's like a big like kitty litter thing. Man, taking a shit in the desert. That's got to be something. It's got to be really unsatisfying. Yeah. For a long time. Yeah. Unsatisfying. You stole the dry fucking sand going up your ass. I would like take this moment to welcome
Starting point is 00:28:16 new listeners of fans of classic cinema. We need Sydney Green Street as Ferrari. This dude fucking rules. He's also like the big boss man in Maltese Falcon. Dude built like a brick shithouse this guy. It's awesome. And I believe the scene more shithouse than brick but yeah. Probably. Is he not, he's directing people here to go over to Cafe American. We meet him at the Blue Parrot and he's like the spies or something. You better go over and talk to Rick. He's the one that's help you. You'll find like what you need. Everybody comes to Rick's. Yeah. But he does
Starting point is 00:28:49 come to Rick's. And so he knows that he's like the gimbals to Rick's Macy's basically. Big time. He knows what's up. That's why he's like thrilled at the end of this movie to buy the cafe. Yeah, he's powers booth to Ian McShane. It's a classic situation. I mean, it is such a snappy screenplay. It's one of my favorite screenplays of all time. The writing is just outrageous. And like, if memory serves, it was a real, like, we're like a rewriting shit on the fly, figuring stuff out. And the fact that
Starting point is 00:29:21 like, it's pulled off this awesomely is pretty impressive. Well, that's, you know, it's, I think it's amazing piece of writing and it would be great if more people were aware of how like it was being updated all the fucking time. Because what do you always hear that this is the best screenplay that's ever been written and every screenplay should be this screenplay. What's the Robert McKee guy? He's like, this is the one. This is the one. Casablanca? Yeah, yeah. Oh, really? Huh. And by the Epstein brothers. Yes. Well, I don't mean to play that, Chris. Everyone goes to Epstein. Yeah. One of them went on to write Cross of Iron. I saw on the old
Starting point is 00:29:57 really which was interesting turn yeah i was going yeah maybe that's an error me no i like cross iron cross iron rules which was that sam fuller oh yeah yeah yeah with the uh the marvin with uh no it's um what's his fucking name coburn coburn yeah coburn yeah good movie um so rinalt comes in and he's like hey rick just gonna let you know man there's going to be a embarrassing public arrest happening right in your cafe we're gonna make a big fucking deal about it please oh please tell me it's that creepy nerd please oh god is today you're gonna the day you're gonna kill that
Starting point is 00:30:33 creepy nerd in my club peck and paw not fuller oh that's the sams the two sams you know him folks I've been really itching to get this nerd out of my club for some time now see he's creeping out a lot of the ladies and the men everybody
Starting point is 00:30:49 honestly he sits down at the bar two people stand up that's how it goes it's not even the voice really it's the eyes It's the eye. People are just complaining about eyes. One time a dog wandered in here. A stray dog out of the, out from the marketplace, came into Ricks, took one look at Ugate, threw up on my floor and left.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And I called him the sea wolf. Even animals find this man repugment. Yeah, you see how you're calling the sea wolf. I'm creating what I'm calling the Curtiz universe. Because when you see him, you're woofed. The CCU, dude, the Curtiz Cinematic. We're going to have Dr. X in here, too. Don't worry about that.
Starting point is 00:31:32 But yeah, so he lets him know that that's going to go down. And he's fine with it. But very pointedly, Rick puts the papers inside Sam's piano. That's right. Keeping him there. Meanwhile, Reynolds's also like, by the way, there's this manufacturer, Victor Laslo coming to town. Bogart's ears kind of pick up right here.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Like, oh, Laslow, eh? Oh, celebrity. very famous resistance fighter spent a year in a concentration camp broke out thought dead not dead coming to Casablanca and they're planning
Starting point is 00:32:05 Strasser wants to intercept this mother it's a weird like they want to intercept him they can't legally do anything to this guy so it's a real like yep we flew all the way here from France and we're going to murder this man which is like just murder him then
Starting point is 00:32:23 and also Mr. Laslo hi my name is literally anything else than Victor Laslo. They're going to dinner. They're the same place with, oh, yes. Could I give a table away from the Nazi High Command, please? That is an awesome moment.
Starting point is 00:32:37 What's my name? My name is Ralph Dinner Shirt. That's my name. Hello, I'm Victor Lazbot. Lasbot. It's a Bulgarian. No relation to the famous Freedom Fighter. Oh my God, is that a Victor Laslo?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Why, yes, it is. Hi, it's me, Victor Laslo. The Nazis want me dead, you see, and I'm just sitting here letting everyone know. It's me, Victor Laslo. And everybody thinks it's because he's a freedom frider and he got out of the concentration camps. I know like, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:33:09 the reason they're after him is because he's too fucking hot. This motherfucker smokes everybody off the screen, including Bogart, I'll be honest. I think he's a much more attractive. Paul on Reed, man. I believe that's the name. Solid 1940 smoke show. Hey, uh, hey, Lyslow, how did you get that?
Starting point is 00:33:25 I was literally going to say that, but I was going to say pineapple. That's the TV edit on the scarface. Turn too quick into a thigh, you see. It's interesting that we don't say Jew or Jewish in this movie, right? We don't, not a single time. Yes, we say concentration camp a lot in the threat of concentration. Well, it's interesting because Lasslow was producing like anti-German leaflets or whatever in Prague and running newspaper. And concentration gaps, obviously, yes, Jewish, but also, you know, also like people who are, yeah, yeah, yeah, keep it by.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I mean, Pearl Harbor is just where we're just getting our feet wet. We're just seeing how things are going. Yeah. We don't want to be, you know. I mean, it's there. I mean, apparently, like, a lot of the, obviously a lot of the people in the movie were, we're Jewish and we're very like, you know. Yeah. Remember when they run up, when they round up all the usual suspects, it also includes liberals.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yes, that's right. I love, they, so Louis Rinald and Rick. make this fucking great bet where Bogart's like all right how about this if Laslo gets out of here alive you owe me 20,000 francs if he dies in Casablanca
Starting point is 00:34:38 I'll give you 20,000 francs and it's a great line he goes Louis goes make it 10 I'm only a poor corrupt official which I just love we learn a little bit about rate
Starting point is 00:34:53 it's one of those things we're like it's a little kind of didactic, but whatever. It's people like reminding Rick of his own life. And they're just like, oh yeah, Rick Blaine, 1935. You were running guns to Ethiopia, 1936. Fighting in Spain
Starting point is 00:35:07 alongside the loyalists there. You love an underdog. Oh, Stephen Sadek, 2011, you were a fat guy doing a podcast. 2017, you're also a fat guy doing a podcast. Oh, 2022, you're a fat guy doing a podcast. That guy doing a podcast
Starting point is 00:35:23 in New York City. Fat guy doing a podcast in Jersey City. Fascinating. What a dossier. Such a globetrotter. 2019, fact guy doing a podcast while running guns
Starting point is 00:35:38 in Ethiopia. Maybe we should start getting into something. A little more cutthroat, a little more adventurous. I like that. Our lives have been
Starting point is 00:35:48 just stagnant at port for so long. You're right. We should become warmongers. Yeah, we should. I mean, because like, It was bone-chilling to see that his character, Rick, is supposed to be 37 years old.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah. And he's already a wealthy owner of a saloon? I only dream of such a thing. Yeah, that's the thing. I left America because I had to get away from my student loans, you see. Fannie Mae was strangling me to death. Then I moved to Morocco, I could open a club. I mean, back then, you know, it was an actual lady named Fannie Mae,
Starting point is 00:36:21 and she came out with guns and knives. was going to come and get you. I do love that we never know why he fled and it's more of the enigma there. I mean, presumably he got money from his exit or whatever. I think there was a line that Renault has about, oh,
Starting point is 00:36:38 did you steal from the church or something? I like Renalty. He just basically gives him all these. We have these theories. It's either you stole from the church you did this or you killed a man. I prefer kill the man because that's more romantic or whatever. It's also the easiest thing to do.
Starting point is 00:36:54 easy it is to take a life for an all want to find out. Dude, back then you could kill anyone you wanted. DNA, not a thing. You're fucking common blood all over the room. Someone just mop it up. You kill a guy go down the block and not
Starting point is 00:37:10 shave for two days. You've gotten away with that cry. Absolutely. We need to go back, folks. So, you know, the cops come in. Yeah, I tried that. But then some asshole wrote Am on the back with my jacket. Everywhere I go
Starting point is 00:37:25 Some asshole with chalk Writing M on the back of my jacket Who is giving away All this is a chalk Who? And I would have got away with it too Worry it not for that fucking chalk Yeah, you know
Starting point is 00:37:39 Chalk that up to bad luck So yeah The cops come in They're like All right Peter Lorry It's time to get arrested And he does this great move of like Let me just cash out
Starting point is 00:37:51 My gambling winnings and then he like I love this he walks to the door and like runs out and closes it behind them and then like kind of holds it for a second and you can tell he's like kind of thinking like oh where's this going to go and it's like eh
Starting point is 00:38:04 fuck it and runs like two feet the door opens and he starts firing wildly back into the club meanwhile Bogart not blinking at all they take him into custody immediately I love reek
Starting point is 00:38:18 Rick help me reek oh yeah I'm going to miss that for sure. No, I'm so sad. I'm so sad that he's gone. I mean, he does one of his first utterances of, I don't have stuck my neck out for nobody. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Which is a great kind of running theme that he has. Especially when they sound like a castrated mouse. Strasser at one point asks Rick, what is nationalities? I'm going to start doing this dude. He's like, I'm a drunkard. Reynolds said, well, that means Rick's a citizen of the world. Stoner from the old country. Don't embarrass me in front of the Nazis.
Starting point is 00:38:57 My friend here has a few to fute a drink. I apologize. Nazi overlord. My apologies. Have you? I'm sorry. Have you touched the fur? Can you tell me what it's like?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Oh, man. Great scene. Oh, yeah. In the prequel novel, they give him like a super Jewish real name or whatever. So if you want to read into it, there's that. There is. I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I choose that to. it's fine. You could be Jewish and named Rick or Richard. Exactly. There's plenty of Rick Lowensteins. It's out there. Or Rick Blaine. Like,
Starting point is 00:39:29 you know, Ellis Island chop jobs. Yep, those things happen. Used to be Blan Kowski, you see. Or it's a stage name, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:36 Because like you made fun of an Irishman called Rick for so long, but people just started calling you it. I can't get over that. I love that. Oh, my God. By the way, that we skipped over.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It doesn't really matter. Ferrari came in and tried to like poach Sam to his clubs. Oh, that's right. That's right. Now, Fafari, he is supposed to be the guy that Wiggum is talking to in that episode, right? Oh, I wish I wouldn't show facts. Oh, is kind of like a big daddy thing?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Maybe a little bit. The outfit is very big daddy. Well, Big Daddy was the guy running away with the beard and he took the kid. But the guy you're talking about is the Hawaiian shirt guy with the fanning himself. I think it's the same episode, but it's different guys. Yes. Oh, no, it's a different episode, different guy. but it's, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Hey, Simpsons, check it out. There's Big Daddy, and then there's also the other guy with the... It's too hot today. Yeah, I certainly shouldn't have said it wasn't illegal. That's the Krusty Fakes's Death episode. You're talking about the big spin-off showcase. A lot of, a wish I want so fat. Just to plug here, one of my favorite mystery science theater episodes,
Starting point is 00:40:46 overdrawn at the memory bank. Oh, great one. Makes much hay. It's a horrible movie. wherein Raul Julia basically matrixes himself into a Casablanca-esque area. It's an insane movie. This I feel is like, because it's a really big
Starting point is 00:41:02 MST 3K and it's a real MST3K blind spot from it. I've never seen it. But it's, I mean, there is this guy do, like everybody kind of fits archetypes. Ravel Julia's kind of bogey. And some, this huge guy is Ferrari. And they make a lot of hay about how big this dude. It's a lot of fun. Just
Starting point is 00:41:23 an FYI. Well, yeah, I don't think outward fat jokes were quite as popular at the time. If a fat guy falls down, oh, we're laughing. Humphrey Bogart's like, eh, you really fit around the house, don't you? Get out of the way, Ferrari, you're fat
Starting point is 00:41:39 fuck. He calls him a fat hypocrite at one point. I really like that. I bet you have your own zip code over here, don't you, Ferrari? Ferrari is supposed to be sports cars, small, fast. Farrari, what's your bell size equator? Yes, it seems that this had a pass by one Abraham Farley.
Starting point is 00:42:03 So in walk, Paul O'Reid and Ingrid Bergman, Victor Laslow, and Ilsalund. They're looking for Agate. And this other, like, resistance fighter dude comes up to him. I love this shit where he's like, hey man, you want to buy his ring off me, man? I'm going to get out of here. And, like, approaches the table.
Starting point is 00:42:20 and it's like, take a closer look and opens it up. Dude, fucking sign of the resistance. Let's get busy. It's funny because the first time I saw this, I'm like, this must be the worst part of being a freedom fighter of any kind is any person who's like trying to like
Starting point is 00:42:36 sell guns or anything is coming up to you. You want some help? When the guns? Passports? No, no, no. I'm fine, really. I'm all taking care of. I'm not doing resistant stuff right now.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Now I'm just trying to treat my lady to a nice drink. Wait, wait, wait, do you? see these birth certificates. I don't need any right now. How about a death certificate? We're trying to get a steak before dinner. I am starving. Before dinner.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Fine. For dinner. For dinner. Four dinner. Ferrari's starting to get a steak before dinner. I'll have the steak appetizer. Oh, man. I do, yeah, this is what real resistance looks like.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I mean, no, I'm sorry, real resistance is, you know, putting it in your Twitter bio. Oh, a little hashtag that says, resist. And then somebody wet their diaper this morning. That's really, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's getting it done, dude. It's getting it done. Yeah. One fucking neo-Nazi at a time. Turned out it made them even stronger. Who would be? What are you going to do? Um, but so they spot each other. He comes over and she's like, hey, you know, where's Rick? And he's like, I don't know, haven't seen him all night. You know, kind of loaded horse shit. So she's like, hey, well, why.
Starting point is 00:43:50 play some of the old songs and he starts like doodling on something and she's like no no you know the one the one that like I guess they must have just had him playing on repeat that whole time they were fucking in Paris I'm gonna go bald this broads brains out in the next room
Starting point is 00:44:06 why do you play as time goes by like five times make it six times yeah I'm feeling all right tonight six times I won't go twice I can have I can have one song play through per whiskey I had to drink this afternoon. Seven times. But remember, when I'm trying to get her to go,
Starting point is 00:44:26 you start playing the Chattanooga Choochoo because she's out of here. Because I mean, you know, kids today, you know, this is a Netflix and chill. This is get a man in front of you to play the piano and chill. Don't mind me, Mr. Rick. I'm not watching. Was that the whole relationship in Paris? It seems, I mean, they were having drinks. You play piano and I drill her. I think so. I mean, all the scenes. He's playing piano and he's like, ha-ha, oh, yeah. There's that moment where Straser talks to Rick and everyone's
Starting point is 00:44:58 at the table and they go through like his dossier and they mention that like they also know what he was up to in Paris. They leave it vague. Yeah. But are they talking about drilling the lady while a guy plays piano? I think that's probably for the resistance. For the resistance. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:45:13 If we have to, we have to. Make it a vow. Ville la France. But presumably he was doing something more than just drilling and listening to piano music. Now, Sam, make this about. I'm about to do some math stuff. That I can do all night long. Even with some chewing tobacco stuck in my way.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Remember, oh, oh. Rick, do you want me to keep playing when she goes to sleep and you're jerking off in the bathroom or what? What's, what exactly, when does this end? It's hard to tell who's the biggest pianist. Rick or Sam there? You know, the thing is, I love that it's not particularly spelled out for you just what he was up to. Which is great. That's what I love about it is it's all. And you know, your Han Solo mentioned.
Starting point is 00:45:58 There might be a lot here, right? Like this is a wretched hive of scumming villainy. Watch your wallet. Banging music in the canteena here. Totally. And he's a complicated anti-hero that you don't know all about yet. Yes. And the whole, I don't want to stick my neck out for anybody, but it's very much Han Solo's kind of ammo. Absolutely. Until he changed. changes. Gun marathoning, not even gun running. Just constantly throw him guns at anybody who wants. And he brings his friend of another race who everyone hates. I do love, uh, this is one of the big, like, Hollywood misquote misconception things is because she never says play it again, Sam, right? It's play it once Sam. Play it Sam. Play as time goes by. That's it. It's kind of great. It's,
Starting point is 00:46:48 If you could play it for her, you could play it for me. Oh, that's right. But it's kind of funny because this is like, this smokes him out of his little foxhole. And he comes out like, God damn it. I thought I told you to, ah, fuck, I got tricked. There she is. Oh, I should have seen this coming. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Woody Allen misquoted something. That's the worst thing he's ever done. One, I don't think Woody wrote that movie. And two, I'm pretty sure that was a misconception before that film existed. No, I'm going with my version. That's also, I think, based on a play. Yeah, I think it is. So they call it a night.
Starting point is 00:47:25 It's like everybody get the fuck out. I will say, just because it's important to me. There's one moment when Renault, I believe he's talking to the head Nazi there and he's just like... Strausser? Strausser's like, you know, oh, man, all the women in Casablanca are in love with Rick.
Starting point is 00:47:41 If I were a woman, I imagine I would be in love with Rick. Do you imagine if two men could physically have sex? I mean, physically. I mean, I don't think that's possible. Am I supposed to be responding to this? Or it's just... Dude, that would be great if it was like Strasser internal monologue. What is he trying to say to me?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Is he, oh my God, he's coming on to me. Not to sell if, open a new dossier on Renault. Move the fun, move funds away from Laslo to Renault. I mean, Renault's got a real Willem-Defoe in auto-focus, Louis Renal will sit next to his good buddy and jerk off. Exactly. Criminal.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Take it up. Take it up. Take it up. I thought you were just going to be working the tripod there. Now you beat me to death with my own sex equipment. Sex equipment. It's sex equipment. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Auto focus. I mean, I'm due for a rewatch. That's the WLM dude. Oh, yeah. That movie fucking rules. Totally rules. So, yeah. we cut to that night. The cafe is closed down. He's doing a real deal. We're going to be drinking this bottle of whiskey all night long. God damn. And then Sam comes in. It's like, hey, don't think about her. Let's go. Let's go driving and drinking. And then when we sober up, we'll go fishing in the morning. We'll go fishing. We'll get drunk. And I'm like, dude. Drunk fishing? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And you're hanging out with Sam. He's got great stories. You know, Rick, I know that workers rights in general. don't really exist now, but 3 a.m. to be cleaning up this place is a little bit much to be asking the janitors. Man, since we were just on tour folks at home, we were in Tennessee and Andrew, I think you summed up what a smoking bar
Starting point is 00:49:30 feels like better than I've ever heard before. Which was what? Which was like when you have your eyes open in a smoking bar, it feels like you're in a pool. A chlorinated swimming pool. Opening your eyes under water. It was, it's funny, right?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Because like that's just from, you know, years of in New York, just not having that anymore. Your body's just not trained as much. We were in this bar. Steve, you lit up and I wanted to commit suicide. I was so physically uncomfortable. I mean, I wasn't
Starting point is 00:50:00 as glamorous as Humphrey Bowman. No, no, it was pretty gross. I'm a fat guy doing a podcast. Steve lights up. Play it again, Sam. Shut the fuck up. I got to say. Play it again, Sam. This one, wants to buy you flowers, so go our head down.
Starting point is 00:50:20 It was cool as hell for one minute. Somebody out here playing two princes. I told you not to play that. Oh, God, I've been in here for one minute. I feel like I haven't slept for four days. Oh, boy. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Of course, also, this is the scene with the famous of all the gin joints and all the towns and all the world. She walks into mind. God damn, this screenplay rules. And he's great. I mean, look, yeah, I was reading a lot of stuff about how corny the dialogue is. and it is, but it's iconic in its way, the way it's delivered.
Starting point is 00:50:49 You know what I mean? It's snappy enough. It's the right kind of corny it. It's also kind of hard on sleevy. Like it's not too guarded or cagey. Like he's not trying to be smart too often. But yes, I can see a bunch of film, Twitter, Galaxy geniuses being super cynical.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yes. You know, looking at old Hollywood. Oh, man, that line. I mean, per usual, jerk. me off forever is my response to those things. They film Twitter would not be good at jerking people off. No. I mean, some
Starting point is 00:51:23 of them probably. They're kind of sexless rubs, I think. But some of if they're going to know how to do one thing, Eric, it's jerking off because they do it to themselves constantly. That's true, but can they handle my pipe as the question? You're right. Listen, we're, I'm
Starting point is 00:51:39 drinking. We're doing a show about a first time we're drinking on the show. Yes, this is the first time. It's a, it's a movie about a bar. And I just don't, I'm sorry. I think some of those film Twitter creeps are, uh, I agree with you. Just that. They're creeps.
Starting point is 00:51:55 You don't have to say anymore. You know what they should do? They get a job pushing up daisies. I will say this. The flashbacks didn't really play for me last night. I kind of, that right. I mean, the, the train scene is excellent. I don't.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Yeah. I just feel like, I mean, it's nice to see the two sides of Bogart. to see him in happier days. I just feel like all that information could have been gotten some other way and we would have stayed in the seediness of it. Maybe I like the claustrophobia of Ricks
Starting point is 00:52:27 and Morocco and his capability of it. It is like the break, we're super breaking away from a play. Yes. That's true. But you know, otherwise, if we didn't have those flashbacks, we wouldn't have had like 15 moments of here's looking at you kid. Yes, that's true. We set that up.
Starting point is 00:52:43 There's a lot of them in those flashbacks. I think it's kind of nice seeing their love. Yeah, well. But that is what you hear it. Then when he says, it's true to Eric's point. When you hear it later, you're like, oh, that's because he said that so long ago. Yeah. It makes it better.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's a little more effect. It's like a double. It's like him saying it twice because I remember it from the time. No, I was saying he does say it twice in the flashback. Oh, yeah. But he says it more in the rest of the film, right? There's like one towards the end. He says at the end of the movie.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah, yeah. Got it. But what I love about it, though, is they're doing a real, like, we're not telling each other anything about ourselves. It's kind of like a weird, sort of certified copy situation, almost. Yeah. It's just, you know, she starts to say something about our life and he's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're keeping it anonymous. Humphrey Bogart just looking directly down into the fucking.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Hi. Hi. Hi. That would be something, dude. But it's, I don't know. It's just that weird, like, we don't want to know anything. about each other. It's just about the fuck. Well, no, she's trying
Starting point is 00:53:48 to, he's trying to get information on her and she's like, no, she doesn't want to, she's being cagey because she's got this all, this whole of the secret life. Yeah, they both have CD pasts, you know, that like, why explore this, the world is ending, which I mean, I could see you know, right now people
Starting point is 00:54:04 doing that. That's what's kind of fascinating to me about the scene, because you look, there's parts where, when it's around the time when he's like, oh yeah, sounds, wow, that heavy artillery is shelling a bunch of people on the countryside about 35 miles away they're holed up like in an attic
Starting point is 00:54:21 like or a top, not an attic, but like a top floor of a building with other people hiding out. It's a real like we're just drinking and fucking because the world is ending. Oh, it's so good. I love that when they go downstairs I guess to they say like the the in owner or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:54:36 is like he'd rather water his garden with the champagne than let the Germans get it so it's all for free. They, between Getting a great deal on booze. Oh my God, my eyes! Where's my daughter? Oh, this is a wonderful.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Play that shock again, Sam. You know, make it a little louder. It's not drowning out the streams. Ash time goes... It's fucking rad, though, dude. It's a real, like, we're getting it done tonight because the three of them are hanging out, and it's Rick Ilson and Sam.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And they're polishing off a bottle of champagne, and Sam's kind of doing... after this bottle and the next bottle we only got two bottles left because it's like well we it's we got this bottle
Starting point is 00:55:21 and then there's three more and we're just going through them and I was like fuck I mean guaranteed it's a hell of a time and you are having a rip-roaring hangover oh my gosh champagne hangover like that it's gonna be
Starting point is 00:55:32 I don't know I don't care how much orange juice you're putting in there it's not gonna work but you know we can't go back to America because I need to stay you know within the line of the German invasion in case more free alcohol
Starting point is 00:55:44 becomes available. It's very important, you see. Booze is so expensive in America. That's why I'm here. What's the Desert Fox up to? Okay, North Africa sounds great. Get some booze down there.
Starting point is 00:55:55 How much free booze they got in North Africa? You think the Germans are bad. Wait till you see the prices on a bottle of scotch in New York City. Trust me, you wouldn't want to invade. That's why I'm staying around here to get the free booze. Look, they're all running out of these shops escaping for their lives. I'm running into the shops. Escaping with their booze.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Hold up, Germans. It's already been gentle. fed. No, no, no, Payton's. Just, just booge, please. Thank you very much. She does at least drop right here. She's like, I had a dude, but he's dead, which at the time
Starting point is 00:56:26 she does believe to be true. Yeah, there's five reports of his death apparently. So yeah. And so then like, shit's getting hot in Paris. It's like, all right, we got to leave tomorrow. And it's kind of great, you know, and Ingrid Bergman's really excellent in this movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And the way she plays
Starting point is 00:56:42 it, like she now knows you'll learn later that she finds out that Laslo's alive again that's why she's so sort of devastated she knows she has to leave Rick and he's like oh it'll be great well get married and she's like oh man you're not getting any of my signals
Starting point is 00:56:57 you're not getting anything oh that'd be fantastic how about even earlier then how about on the train oh yeah that sounds great I'm literally crying at the table Sam you could do it right you were a chaplain in the Navy what does she mean by kiss me like it was last time I guess nothing
Starting point is 00:57:13 say no more small ceremony I get it you don't want to invite your parents baby I get it just 60 70 of our closest friends we'll just go straight to the judge we'll just see what he says oh kiss me like the last time
Starting point is 00:57:26 because that's the last time you're going to be single right because you're going to marry me on the train got it got it got it got it this is the last kiss before the next one after that it's like he's just got nothing
Starting point is 00:57:37 and she's like dude I know I can't tell you right now because of all of my intense emotional stuff going on but you really should pick this. You should not be quite so surprised on the train. Yeah, no, I mean, I guess that's true. I mean, I love the pounding rain. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And he's like, she left this note for you and she reads it. And it's like, you know, my dear Rick, I love you. I got to leave. I can't tell you why. You're going to get the corpses, yes, sir? Yeah, yes, Rick. I'm going to get the corpses. But I love it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Oh my god She just wrote me this letter You know Ordinarily I would definitely Fight her on it But I can't say She's got to take a shit I got no retort to it
Starting point is 00:58:23 Wow it's uh That's the universal Relationship breaker right there It's a perfect excuse baby Ironclad Sam Let's get that train She's got to take her shit There's no toilets on the train
Starting point is 00:58:34 Sam I feel like that's a fucking Mad magazine parody bit Where it's him And then they cut in It's just high effing I never said I was better than Mad Magazine
Starting point is 00:58:46 No why would you I wouldn't say crazy things like that What are you cracked And the rain is coming down And the paper You know The I gotta take a shit Is smudging in the rain
Starting point is 00:58:59 And you're like I'm glad this is covering up his tears Yeah oh yeah I love the shot of the train Starts moving And Bogart The most casual The most fuck off
Starting point is 00:59:09 Crumples it up And just tosses it And I feel like Sam was on the train like, oh, man, that sucks, Rick. You probably never want me to play that time goes by, right? Never again, because that song got fucking tired of that song. Yeah, you'll never be reminded of her, right? You hate it, right? Every time I play it from now on is it going to bring up painful memories and open huge wounds.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I don't have to play it anymore, right? Yeah, you're a Chopin man now, right? Classical music or bust? At the bar, as they like it. No more Chattanooga, Choochoochoo, just Chopin. And Bach. And so then, like, that's the end of the flashback. It cuts back.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Bogart way more in the sauce. She comes in. And this is a real. He's like, so tell me one thing, baby. Any other guys in between me and him or what? Oh, yeah. Were you married or were you married? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:03 He's like wasted. It's kind of great how wasted he is. She's like, this is her being like, I'm going to do the thing. I'm finally going to tell him what's what. She's like, fuck this. guy, she leaves. It rules. There's also this little thing. I mean, it comes to a head
Starting point is 01:00:18 eventually, but the the publisher's visa sweepstakes, this two couple, this young couple that's going on. This is the one thing where I'm just like, I get why it's here, but I don't care. I love it. I love this a little bit of deceit. I do. That comes a little
Starting point is 01:00:34 bit later. They have the... This is the Bulgarians. Well, no, well, this is Strasser has told them the night before come to the precinct and we're going to talk things through or whatever. This is where they show up. And like, Strausser says, all right, Laslo, like, I will let you to leave Casablanca to go to Portugal to get on the boat to go to America. You can escape. You can be free, whatever. And
Starting point is 01:01:00 he's like, the only thing is you have to give up the name of every resistance leader in every European country where one exists. You know, and he's like, do you know, me at all. Do you really think I'm going to go for that? Yes, we're just going to slip it past him. See if he doesn't notice. He says, you know, I
Starting point is 01:01:24 was stuck at a concentration cramp they tried to give that information. What odds do you have doing that here? Yeah. Well, then take him back. I just think it's crazy that they never nabbed the dude. He walks in it out. Like, it's just like, I don't know, like, I mean, because he's used the
Starting point is 01:01:40 same name. Like, it is sort of insane. the Nazis are playing fair. I guess the one time the Nazis played fair. They love rules. Maybe that's it. They went to a place with some rules. And they were like, all right, we're going to play this game fair. Maybe it's a sporting thing.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Like, this is chest for its strong stuff. We don't just shoot down people we don't like. Only a crazy person do that. Laslis got a great line, though, where he's like, all right, well, if you kill me and kill them, thousands will rise up and the resistance will be stronger. And he goes, even Nazis can't kill. that fast which is awesome
Starting point is 01:02:14 I don't take that's the best I do there's this great it's a redalt line I think it's here where he's just like explaining the fate
Starting point is 01:02:23 of Peter Lurie's oh yeah and he's delighted he's just like you know I don't know if I want to write down that if he committed suicide or was murdered
Starting point is 01:02:30 during his escape I'm not sure and it's like and now Jeffrey Epstein I don't know if I want to write down he committed suicide or he was murdered
Starting point is 01:02:37 during his escape they just it would be great of like oh this whole, like, scene is going on. Someone opens a door behind him, and it's just full of blood. But this is where, this is the real fucking gross Louis moment where they're like, so basically Laslo and Ilsa are like, get fucked Nazi, we'll see you later.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And they walk out. They don't take the deal. And then some fucking cop comes in and he's like, oh, you know, Captain Ronald, another visa problem has come up. And Renault does a, oh, send her in and looks in the mirror and does a little tie adjust. And you're like, dude. Yeah. Oh, dude, that sucks.
Starting point is 01:03:22 How he's, oh, man. The amount, just, it's just ridiculous. Right? Like the amount of unwilling people. Oh, yes. And he's a hero in the movie. I mean, like, he's an anti-hero, but it's like, no. It's like you're supposed to smile when you see him.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And I do because it's fucking clod rings. Because it's okay to have. complicated problematic characters in your movie. You're right though because like just the idea you just said it
Starting point is 01:03:50 he's in a meeting with a Nazi the Nazi is like this is what I want you to do you son of a bitch you're like you know what Mr. Nazi I don't think so
Starting point is 01:03:58 me and my wife were leaving and you just leave like I just I thought of Nazis work because I understand it but that I mean like but you kind of have to imagine
Starting point is 01:04:07 there was an audience who was going to see this in 1944 being they were a little root the Nazis I thought. I thought there were just a little roof to the Nazis. That's true. They would. What is the fucking the Henry Ford family
Starting point is 01:04:20 watching the movie? Yes. Well, they treated that Nazi like shit. There were a lot of sympathizers throughout the United States. It's actually you know, I think honestly, Charles Foster K and himself. Yeah. I mean, they had a rally at Madison Square Garden. I just feel like the
Starting point is 01:04:35 concentrated effort of the studios to compliment them on something. I feel like helped the war effort in a real way, because there was no internet or television. Yeah. I guess there was television, sort of. You paint them as villains and people understand them as villains. Exactly, which maybe we ought to start doing.
Starting point is 01:04:52 There's a great, I noticed a funny sign in the marketplace. There's a scene where Rick goes to the Blue Parrot for some reason here. He's arguing with Ferrari about like cartons of cigarettes that he never got or whatever. It's more about like, Ferrari's
Starting point is 01:05:08 like, you know where them fucking exit visas are? And he's like, no. No, I don't. But there's a sign in the marketplace that I was pretty sure translates to lingerie king. Yes. Pretty awesome. And this is when she is trying to get a, it's a fun little market gag. She's trying to get a blanket.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Oh, yes. And it's like, oh, it's like $800, $800. And then like, Rick comes by, you're getting ripped off. He's like, oh, Frederick's 400, 200, whatever goes down. Yeah. And this is what he's trying to apologize to her. And she's like, get fucked. Like, it is a real, like, I tried last night.
Starting point is 01:05:42 dude, you were wasted and I'm not in the mood for it today. Is this where there's the exchange where she's like, I don't want to tell you something? And he goes, you can tell me now I'm reasonably sober. Yes, exactly. I got to start using that one, man.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Because they're going to go to Ferrari and trying to get these exit visas. And then like Ferrari is just like, sorry, dude. That Rick, of course, it's got to be Rick, Mr. fucking one year in Morocco. He's got the exit visas. He's got the cool piano player. And I just got fucking, You know, I ordered this Pong table.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It's a ping pong table. I thought that would boost morale here. Been here for seven months. He got the cherry press on the rum. Can't believe it. Can't fucking believe it. But don't worry, Ferrari and his blue parrot, what do you got? A bunch of really great cruditee on every table.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Awesome. Good job, Ferrari. I guess it's back to the illegal drug trade for me. Don't tell me of a journal Quist act today. Please don't tell me that. I'm going to throw up in the bathroom. I'm closing this place down. I'm turning it back into an opium den.
Starting point is 01:06:46 It's going back to an opium den. You're telling me that the Nazis went to the other club. Well, we're finished. Well, we're just finished. I took one look around the dining room. There wasn't a single Nazi in sight. I'm washed up. All the tastemakers are across the street.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Poor old Ferrari washed out of Casablanca. What are these handsome young influencers really into? And all I've got is Spaniards. I love, we go back, you know, a lot of going back to Ricks, of course, because it's a play. But we go back and I love, we go back via the pick pocket coming back into the movie and he bumps into Carl. Carl, the German waiter. I fucking love this guy. German dude resistance fighter on the sly.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And he bumps into him and it's this great Carl being like, oh, that's the village pickpocket and immediately feeling for like all his belongings. It's such a great gag. He notices someone else got pickpocket, but that's fine. because that's a life in Casablanca. That's all fair game. You got yours and you're okay. I mean, they're modeling their actions after their boss, right? They're fearless leader.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Don't put your neck out. Also not sticking his neck out. I mean, I guess the fact that he's part of the resistance is a little different. But yeah, in that, in the day-to-day interaction, it's like, oh, that guy got robbed. That's a bummer, but my wallet's still in my pants. Yeah, Rick taught me this move. What I do is I tape all my money to my body every morning to ensure I'm never ripped off. That's right, sweetheart.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I got all my francs on my nipples. Just take them right on it. Oh, you need some change. Let me just slap my tit really quickly. Some francs to come out. Coming up in the world, I had to put some money on my thigh the other day. I got Deutsch marks on my dong.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Running out of limbs. But around here is where we have the sequence of Rick helping the young Bulgarian couple. And I think it's kind of boss, man. A good crooked gambling table in a movie? I'm all about it. I mean, this really does paint Louis as the monster because this lady is ready to fucking kill herself.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And she's like saying like Rick, is it a big deal? Like if I love my husband, but if I like fuck this villainous Frenchman to get out of the country and I just keep it that myself, is that okay? And he's just like, now you're going to bet on 22. And then he rigs it all.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And they get all of his money. Yeah. To go and buy the papers. It's a moment where Rick's like, oh, God damn it. That son of a bitch, Louis Renault. fucking diddling girls for exit visas again. Well, guess now I have to lose all my money to help these people
Starting point is 01:09:16 or else she's going to get dittled. God damn it. My best friend is trying to have sex with all these girls now. Son of a bitch. Well, it's pretty shitting. And he says that he's, uh, Louis comes and says he's a rank sentimentalist, uh, for, for doing that. And he's got a blonde coming in there tomorrow night that I hope she loses.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I read, I think this is the right that this lady is, played by Jack Warner's like stepdaughter or something like that. Oh, the young Bulgarian girl? Oh, really? Man, nepotism. But it's also oh, you want to, all right, you want to break in, here's your big role. Yikes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Speaking of Jack Warner, it was an interesting thing I noticed when the Warner Brothers logo comes up at the beginning of the movie. It's like it is the Warner Brothers shield logo, you know, and then it's inside the logo is a Jack Warner production. just fucking smeared right across the logo.
Starting point is 01:10:14 It's so crazy. And he outran the guy at the Oscars to, there was a producer that really produced. I forget the dude's name. And Warner just basically like shoved him out of the way and got in first. Helby Wallace, yes. Oh, at the ceremony?
Starting point is 01:10:32 At the ceremony. Like kind of like in, you know, Wallace never forgave him and he quit shortly thereafter. Oh, that's weird. where's a mank-esque tale like that? Oh, that'd be great. I think the Warners would be an interesting movie adaptation. Yeah, they lived in the
Starting point is 01:10:47 water tower. They'd a bunny and a frog that came, visited them and... Oh, I was thinking of the animanics. Excuse me. I'd mix them up all the time. That's how Jack Warner sees the world because he's constantly on drugs or something. That's just speaking of opium.
Starting point is 01:11:04 My sister, my cat dot. I do love, it's kind of funny, like, Sam really must have been itching to play as time goes by because now the fucking floodgates are open. In this scene, when they go back out of the main room, he's playing it again. And if I was a regular at Ricks, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:11:26 what is that guy's problem? He's playing as time goes by again. He played it six times last night. He's already played it twice since I've been here. I mean, how many times can you do? This land is your land. This land is my land. I mean, how many do they have in this repertoire is, I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:44 fever hasn't even been made yet, right? So Laslo himself offers Rick 200,000 francs for the papers. And he's like, yeah, I'm not going to sell them to. And he says, is there a reason you won't sell them to me? And it's a really quick, ask your wife. Jesus. Well, you don't even need to say that because I know what that means. awesome
Starting point is 01:12:10 cool yeah dude and ask your wife is that yeah we were boning yeah exactly it's not like oh she fucking she broke my favorite fucking chair it's like she broke my favorite chair because we were bawling her so hard she grabbed my pipe you see
Starting point is 01:12:25 but in this moment is one of the absolute greatest moments in the movie it's one of my favorite parts the dueling national anthems oh yeah anthem off anthem off we got an anthem off. It's so great.
Starting point is 01:12:42 You know, they walk out of the room and the Nazis are doing their things singing about the fucking fatherland and whatnot. And then, first of all, it's a real downer. Yeah, let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:12:52 We're trying to have a good time here. From a certain point of view. Yes, I suppose. Depends on what side you're on. But in those four or five guys are loving it is what I'm saying. No, they are having a great time singing this tune.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And then Laslo is like, Oh, yeah. Watch this shit. And this dude goes down to the band. Because they have, the Nazis have sort of occupied Sam's piano and they got some dude playing that. Sam's piano has been occupied.
Starting point is 01:13:23 That's what I was going for. Yeah. A little flag on. Two guys are standing by it all the time. Swastika stenciled on it. You have taken your piano. You can no longer play any more of your little ditties. but then, yeah, so we start up with La Mises
Starting point is 01:13:42 and these Nazis get out sung, dude, the whole rest of the bar is like, fuck yeah, this is the way better country theme song. Also known as a national anthem, by the- in a lesser movie, someone would get cake thrown on them at this point. Or like the Nazi would fall into a big cake, like, oh, I'm never coming back here again. Why did fucking Groucho Marx pop out as possibly?
Starting point is 01:14:08 I think that's, now this, now, I'm rusty on this stuff. Deutschland Uber Alas was the anthem, and this is like on the Rhine. I think it's on the Rhine. I think it's a little different. They were afraid of playing the former because there was like some copyright stuff. They didn't want to get sued by all these Nazis. Yeah. That's also why we can't do the happy birthday song in movies.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Those greedy ass sisters, man. They're not Nazis too. I was probably the same people that are on the copyright. Absolutely. Yeah. They got in early on a lot of songs. But this is when the Nazis are so mad. They go up to Louis, like, have this place closed.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And, like, I don't care what the reason is. And this is, Louie, it's like, you're closed. Like, what the fuck? It's like, I didn't know there was gambling going on here. I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling in this establishment. God, dear. Here's your winning. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Yes. It's, oh, my God, the fucking comedy right there. The timing of that, the execution, the dialogue. This is a great script. I'm sorry. That is so awesome. That exchange is actually how I first knew about Casablanca, because on VHS's, they used to do like 50 years of moving. And the scene they would always show is that.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Oh, really? That's funny. That's funny. Because it's, you know, what's interesting, I wonder if part of that is because that is, like, the delivery of such is a really still now, like, contemporary feeling delivery. Yes. Yeah, it's true. You know, it's like, I'm doing one thing over here. and it's very serious
Starting point is 01:15:37 and then like rapidly someone comes up you know and you know and then the the joke immediately follows the Simpsons game you know
Starting point is 01:15:44 it's like really it's that quick that you know yep that sharp yeah yeah I just it's it's another one of my favorite parts
Starting point is 01:15:51 of this movie hey you want to make an eight year old laugh in two seconds flat here we go exactly so now he's like down in the dumps
Starting point is 01:15:58 Ilsa finally well what do you recall it there Laslo's going to go to a meeting he explains that he can't get the papers he said
Starting point is 01:16:06 and like last I guess, like, Laslow kind of knows is the idea because he's just sort of like, he said to ask you and I guess I won't do that because you did whatever you had to do kind of a thing. Yep, yeah, you thought I was. And it's like, yeah, man, she thought you were dead in a concentration camp or breaking out of one.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Five different sources confirmed you. Lasz was a cool dude here. He could be a real dick about it. Sure. He said something about a chair and a pipe. I'm not going to press too much, but those could be you if I'm a minute. Were you, I'm sorry, I just need to know, were you part of an offshore drilling operation?
Starting point is 01:16:43 Oh, no, oh, I get it now. I feel stupid, but I shouldn't even have said anything. That was dumb. Forget that, forget that. Gotta work the pipe. There is a real, like, why did you even bother move by Strasser around here? He's like, yeah, you know, Ilsa, I can provide safe passage back to occupied France for you and Victor. And she's like, what are you fucking stupid?
Starting point is 01:17:08 Like, how dumb do you think we are? It's not a concentration camp. It's a fun summer camp. Come on. I do, again, I do love the idea of like beating a Nazi outside of state lines. Like, ha, ha, you can't touch you. He's like, er. My not jurisdiction.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Exactly. He's like Beaufortee justice jumping on his hat because he can't get him. I'm like, I just don't think that's how Nazis work. Uh-oh, those resistance. boys are at it again, the board Major Strausser. Oh, man. But, yeah, so they... Instead of the general Lee, it's the general de Gaulle, it's the car.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Yeah, instead of the little banjo hit when the fuck, when they fly off the thing, it's like a symphony going off. Wagner just starts blaring. Boy, those French boys are really in trouble again, aren't they? There's a moment here, you know, again, points for Rick being kind of... of a cool dude here where he's he's weighing a lot of options and one of the things is like we're going to have to like because the bar is closed and it's like well is it like a indefinite closure what's going on here and he he asks Carl like how long can we stay open it's just dumb
Starting point is 01:18:22 COVID mandates no it's no it's absolutely not I think Carl Carl asks Rick like how long can we stay open yeah no Rick asked Carl how long can we stay open without two to three weeks is like two weeks. And Rick is like, okay, that's fine. Keep everybody on the payroll. And that's like, what a good guy. Yeah, totally. You know, Carl's very excited. He and his wife or, you know, or no, I always mix this up. Carl has those drinks with that German couple. Yes, who are trying to practice English for when they get to America so they can fit in and moment of comedy when it's like, what watch is? Yes. Oh, watch 10. Oh, so much. They're also angling a threesome. It's their last night
Starting point is 01:19:09 Morocco. I had Carl for a while. Looking to get some fucking strange with this big guy over here. Trying to gum it one last time. Look, Leslie, there's a lot of desperate people in Morocco. Carl keeps his options open. Oh yeah. He strains his time when he sees an old couple walk in. He's like, I'm going to fuck these old people. Oh, yeah. Another mark for Carl. another notch in the old belt for Carl I am the vis a meat
Starting point is 01:19:36 and the sandwich No but it's actually That's interesting Because it's another moment of Carl Looking out for Carl Because he Fluent in German You know
Starting point is 01:19:50 Very much related to these folks Notices the language slip up Doesn't correct it And is just like Yeah you'll be fine in America Yeah exactly Yeah you'll be fine Yeah you're speaking real good
Starting point is 01:20:01 He would have closed it faster if he nagged them right there. Oh, yeah, nice English moron. Yeah, and then suddenly one of them's working his pipe. The other one's fucking tonguing out the back plumbing. Do you know how to fart and yell at people? You'll be fine in Mexico. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:20:21 That's all you need to do. That's why I left, sweetheart. Carl goes to the same resistance meeting. Laslo goes to Ilsa takes this moment to go to Rick for one last plea. This is the, you know, the huge turn scene where she pulls a gun on him.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is great. Shit, baby, you're making me hard as a rock. Oh, my God, how'd you remember this? Pushing my buttons real bad. Listen, one of us is going to shoot tonight. It's either me or you. Press it to my temple. Let me take my business out.
Starting point is 01:20:52 She starts saying shit like, oh, you know, what about the cause you once believed in? And he's like, I'm the only cause I believe in. I was like, oh, that's good. That's another good one. And then he's like, yeah, I'm going to die in Casablanca, baby. It's a good spot for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:06 They really should just cut to the Ritchie Apriol Janus Soprano. Oh, yeah. On the couch. Can I tell you that is one of the most stunned I've ever, it's one of the most I've ever been stunned watching television. Just hell of a cut. It was just like, I didn't know people did stuff like that. Was it like 16 or whatever? What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:21:32 I was like, that's some twist to you. And thank God, I didn't get hard. Yeah, that's always the gamble. Because watching that man, like, you could see it. Like, a wire gets crossed in somebody's brain. And now it's like, I can't shoot unless you hold a gun to my head. Thank God, Richie Priel is as stable as they come. That's true.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Yeah, he's real level-headed guy. And, you know, she basically finally tells him the whole story. And now, do they, they find. fuck here, I guess is implicated kind of later, because when eventually at the airstrip, he's talking to Lazo, listen, see, I fucked her last night.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And that's that. That whole, the whole thing there with like him saying shit to Laslo, though, is then flipped by Renalt who's like, did he know you're so full of shit right there in that moment? And he's like, I don't care,
Starting point is 01:22:25 baby. It's unclear if they fuck here. All right. Let's say that you fucked them, Louis. All right. It's a big cut and then later we're smoking cigarettes talking. We don't know what it might have happened. Because it's a weird, it's a weird time jump that I noticed in this in this moment because it's like the middle of the night when we're scheming after the underground meeting and everything. And then he says something to Renalth about like, oh yeah, well just make sure something, something tomorrow afternoon.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And then it cuts to the next day already at night again. so it's a weird passage of time. I don't know that it's a flub. It's just a weird movement. Man, they cut out this scene where Ingrid Bermann's picking pubs out of her teeth. Man! You know that was some real Bogart Bush too, man.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Absolutely. I ain't shaving for nothing to nobody. I mean, we all had Winter Bush back then. It was, oh, you do that? That's a girl stuff. You don't let it grow. Yeah, yeah. Hey, here's looking at you, kid.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Let's see if you can find Bigfoot in the fall. But yeah, so, like, the way Rick sort of plots it out to her is like, don't worry about it. We're going to get, like, Laslo to the airport or whatever. And then I'm just going to make sure he goes and then we can be happy together. Definitely don't worry about it, Elsa. And this is when he starts scheming. He tells Rinalta come back. And he's because, what you go, Lazo gets arrested for like some trumped up charge because, like, the Nazis are like, oh, yeah, we can do whatever we want.
Starting point is 01:23:57 And, you know, Rick's, it's a, it's a, they accuse him of being an accessory to the murder of either the couriers or of Peter Laurie. Well, I don't remember which one. And they're like, oh, yeah, we have this trumped up charge. And he's like, uh, Rinald, he goes to Rinald's like, I got a better idea. He's got to come here tomorrow to buy the papish. You catch him in the act. Bing, bang, boom. You've got him.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And if I'm Rinald, I'd be like, it doesn't matter. I can charge him with jaywalk and slit his throat. You understand what's going on here? You know what I killed who got to for? Jack shit. It's a great Bogart line when they bust into arrest and when he goes, Seems destinies taking a hand. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:42 On the pipe. All right, everybody, hands on pipes. Here we go. Why does he keep on bringing up place? Is somebody a plumber in here? What the fuck is going on? Yeah, you got to call him throbbers. Show a lady your throbber.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Yeah, like me and Mary. talking throbbers. See, Rick, you just got to go hail, so look at my throbber. Not about that pipe. How about the throbbers? A pipe can't throbber. I'll pull down the moon for you, Mary, and the other side of the moon, because the moon's an ass is a throbber. Oh, my pipe's got it at your house. It's Ogaru's house. Whoa, I'm afraid of heights up here on this massive throbber. Got vertigo. There's a great thing where, like, uh, in like, fake getting his affairs in order. Rick
Starting point is 01:25:31 fake sells the cafe to Ferrari and it's a funny like wow do you want it in writing or is a hand or he says do you want in writing or is a handshake good and Rick's like well time is of the essence so I guess a handshake I'll do fat boy which is great because that means he will
Starting point is 01:25:48 still have the cafe when this whole scheme goes off but he does negotiate with him he's like by the way like Sam gets 25% of all the profit and he's like I know that to be 10 but fine 25 it is. And he makes him guarantee again that all the staff stays on as part of like the sale deal. Really looking out for these
Starting point is 01:26:03 people that work for him. I appreciate it. Sam disappears unfortunately. I kind of want him to, I don't know, like maybe at the end when Strasser gets, Strausser's going to get it and then there's some other Nazi and then Sam comes out with piano wire. That'd be kind of cool. Now, was this the Simpsons
Starting point is 01:26:19 that did a alternate ending there where he kills Hitler? Oh yeah. Oh, you're a critic. Great show the critic. Look it up, children. what is the thing though isn't there a simpson's gag where it's like we changed endings of movies for old people
Starting point is 01:26:35 that is the critic yes wait no but there was a Mel Gibson episode of the Simpsons that they change Mr. Smith goes to Washington where he kills everyone that's right oh right right right right in the critic it's like they're on the plane
Starting point is 01:26:49 and then it's turn it's like it's not Turner it's fucking Duke trying to make all the movies happy that's what it is happy endings for every movie She jumps out of the plane with Sam. And he's playing the piano while they're parachuting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:03 That's right. Oh, yeah, Duke Vision or whatever it was. But so, yeah, we get to the airstrip. It's the final, amazing final scene of this movie. We get out there. Renal thinks he's like got everything covered. Uh-oh, the gun is on him. Well, the gun's been on him since before they go to the airport.
Starting point is 01:27:23 They get to the airport. And then it's like he's already called Strasser. because he's, Rinalt here is like, oh, yeah, let me call the airstrip. Oh, I think, yeah, Strasser intercepts the communication or something. I think he just directly calls him, though. Yeah, he does he cause him? Yeah. Because he just, it's like, hello, Major Strasser here.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And he's like, yes, get the airstrip ready for the plane leaving to Lisbon. We're going to have Victor Laslo on it, definitely. And it's kind of hilarious because Strasser, he doesn't say exactly this, but like he should know that it's Renault. When he gets to the fucking airstrip, he's like, what's the meaning of that phone call? And it's like, dude, get the net. I don't know English.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Even better, you get to see this Nazi in traffic, which I really enjoy. It's like, move, move. That is pretty great. They need, instead of Laban's room, they should get a Laban's highway, Lord Almighty. There is a great before we leave.
Starting point is 01:28:22 No, they don't. Before we leave for the airstrip, there is another great line where Bogart's like, and remember, I got this gun pointed directly at your heart. Rinald says, well, coincidentally, that's my least vulnerable spot. It's kind of great.
Starting point is 01:28:39 But, yeah, you know, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, yada, yada, yada. Strausser going for the phone. I mean, this is all great. He's like, what is the meaning? Oh, it's all of you. Okay, better call the rest of my Nazi buds. Yes. Step away from that phone. I'll fucking shoot you. I promise I will shoot you.
Starting point is 01:28:55 But I mean, maybe not today. I mean, it is like played to death in terms of American pop culture. It's a great series of dialogue that he's giving to her and she's playing it really well. And it is, it's this, it's like romantic, but it's almost anti-romantic because it's not about like romantic love. It's about, you know, fucking the world is a piece of shit. And sometimes you got to fucking put on your big boy pants and not get what you want. As the heart first people would say, the greater good. Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Yeah. No, I mean, that's like, it's a movie that's like, fuck all your love shenanigans. We have to do better for humanity. Exactly. And that's the last time we ever thought about it. Well, look, I would really like to have sex with you again, but you've got to go where with Laslo. I would just love to fuck you again, but no, you've got to go with your husband.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Don't worry, baby. Maybe in 70 years, some maniac will write a follow-up book and we'll be joined together again on a new adventure. That's right. So Sam, Louis, and him all go to London and then... Oh, London. That's what it was. That was like the staging ground for their other exploits in Europe. Sam stays in London though, apparently. Well, once Strasser dies, Sam comes out sings Yankee doodle dandy. And then, yeah, this whole speech happens. And then Renault, I mean, the Renault ending is amazing. I gave
Starting point is 01:30:17 away my, the only woman I have a love for the greater good. But I'm not wearing a piece of cloth over my face, that would be, that'd be crazy. That's imprisoned my freedom. I would ruin my life. Get a totally safe vaccine. No, no, sir. A booster? What's that? Yeah. Sounds nefarious. Listen here, fellow, I already took the polio vaccine last week, and I'm not taking another one. I mean, I did it then and it was good and I liked it and now it's cured, but now, I'm not doing it now. Why? I don't know. Because I've got Points. Yeah, see, I don't care
Starting point is 01:30:52 that President Trump, who I love helped be instrumental and making it. I don't care. Major Strasser has been shot. Round up the usual suspects. So good. Just shooting him.
Starting point is 01:31:06 And then, of course, like, you could turn a blind eye to anything. It's so funny because, like, the dude gets wasted by Rick and drops dead. And then this fucking other, like, Nazi dude or maybe he's just an unoccupied France.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Rinald Goon comes around the corner like, hey, thought I heard something. Oh, fuck, there's a body here. Yeah, this guy ran into a bullet. I don't know what happened. Ran right into it. The damnedest thing. I don't know what to do, but you should take care of him. Technically, he killed the bullet.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Put that dead body on trial for murder of that bullet. That's what happened in America was just passing through and he ran right into it. Fucking maniac. He ran right into my bullet and he killed my little bullet. No, no, no, make sure he stands up in the witness stand. He's got to be standing up in the witness stand. Andrew McCarthy to prop him up. Andrew McCart.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Oh, weekend of Bernie's got it, got it. Yeah, so then they just, they talk about the bet that they made. And he's like, well, we're going to need that 10,000 francs because, you know, we got to travel. And he's like, we thought I'd go with you. We both need to definitely get out of here. No, what we're going to do is a weekend at Bernie's thing. Strausser's got this sweet pad. back at Berlin Alexander Blancs or whatever.
Starting point is 01:32:22 And we're going to take him there and prop them up. Uh-oh, the Fiora is coming over for dinner. We better make it look good. All these hiles are really doing a number on the fishing wire. The fear is that. His arm ripped right off. Something fishy is going on in this apartment. And I'll never figure it out.
Starting point is 01:32:43 That's right, man, Fior. We're serving fish for dinner. Oh, I love fish. that's the end of the movie louis i think this is the start of a beautiful friendship walking off into the fog the same fog we met at the beginning of the movie fucking great dude yeah it's just cigarette smoke totally yeah oh the boys were smoking in front of the lens again all right boys light up the spliffs we got it ended in to shoot yeah we'll call it fog it's fine hot boxing this air strip here
Starting point is 01:33:15 hot boxing uh yeah but that's the airs end of this great movie. We'll go around. Final thoughts and new things learned from this, your second viewing, Steve? It's just great. I mean, it's kind of a perfect movie. I just think the,
Starting point is 01:33:33 I mean, the performances are fantastic. The script is as advertised. I just love how morally complicated it is and how it's, it is, I mean, it is romantic. Like, you do feel like, but romantic love does not exactly conquer all.
Starting point is 01:33:49 that's, I think that's why it's so enduring because it's not, it's not a fairy tale. It's more realistic. It's like, you know that, yeah, you just, you guys fell in love in the wrong time twice and it kind of sucks. You know what I mean? And it's, it's awesome. Chris Cabin. Yeah, I mean, what Steve said, absolutely. And there is something about seeing all this, like, this is a very, a very big time period in the movies. We like, we like talking about this time period in the movies. We like, we like talking about this time period in the movies quite a lot. So, like, it's weird to see it so not coded. Like, we've, you've spent so many years seeing all these codes of what, this is what
Starting point is 01:34:28 you're supposed to think about these people and these people, but it's not here. It's kind of primordial. And that's what makes the drama so beguiling. Like, I'm engaged with it the whole time because I don't know where it's going, at least, the first time, at least. And, I mean, yeah, acting is fantastic. Great movie. Yeah, for them, it's like present day.
Starting point is 01:34:44 They're riffing on. So it's a little bit different. um yeah obviously uh i think it's a great movie i think the only thing you could really not get for is like the cultural cultural osmosis like you know a lot of the lines before you end up seeing the movie probably i think even i saw this pretty young but i still knew the lines oh yeah um that it gets a little playy but i don't mind it and i think it it it hums along i i it's hard to fault this movie i really enjoy it yeah i mean it's i i've said this before like plays adapted into movies
Starting point is 01:35:17 are really hard for me to give a shit about this one is not the case similarly with another bogey film Key Largo which is another play and it's another we're just we're in a hotel
Starting point is 01:35:29 in the Florida Keys the whole time really great movie I would say if you have this on home video or can rent it or whatever most of the Blu-rays now come with the Ebert commentary and it's only his he did a couple
Starting point is 01:35:45 the commentaries for things, but this one and the Citizen Kane one are the ones that I remember, but it's like, if you're a big Ebert fan, it's a cool thing to listen to us to a little bit of today, and like the dude was just really passionate about this movie, and it was a nice, like, hearing Raj talk about something
Starting point is 01:36:01 that he really loved. That's awesome. Kind of a thing. So that's sitting on most of the home releases. It's also a movie where I find new things in it all the time, like just a little, it doesn't have to be a huge thing. It's also just like little details here and there, which is kind of great. one of which
Starting point is 01:36:16 I had forgotten about but I was reminded this time I love Renault at the end it's like wow what a great adventure I need a drink and he starts pouring the Vichu water
Starting point is 01:36:26 and then he notices it's Vichy water and he throws it in trash the detail I forgot about is that wine from occupied France is the idea soda water soda water
Starting point is 01:36:36 and they just named it after the I guess Vichu water yeah I don't know enough about I don't know what the impetus was for doing that but it's a good moment yeah totally um but yeah that is casablanca ladies and gentlemen for nineteen forty two directed by
Starting point is 01:36:50 the great michael curtis check out other movies that he made oh yeah dude totally underrated director i think so much so that there's a special on the blu ray also called michael curtis the greatest director you do not know something like that his early stuff is actually on streaming out HBO max and criterion both have a lot of it's dr x uh the mystery at the wax museum really good early stuff from him it's weird because i was i read a little andrew saris on the way down who did not understand why he was a great he was like oh this is the exception
Starting point is 01:37:20 to the auteur theory it's weird well his fucking theory's bunk anyway yeah it's very true it's very true uh but this is just the first of several great WLM conversations we have lined up for the entire month including on the Patreon we will have a we love movies on
Starting point is 01:37:36 Ridley Scott's alien coming very very soon yep we also got an animation damnation on toy story that's coming out this month. Eric, we got some nexus happening.
Starting point is 01:37:47 We have the Star Trek the next no, no, Star Trek generations. There it is.
Starting point is 01:37:54 The movie. I get so in the TV mode for when we talk about the Nexus, but every December we break it out,
Starting point is 01:38:01 we do a movie. You might have heard we released on the main feed a few months ago, one of our previous ones on the wrath of Khan.
Starting point is 01:38:07 So if you like that, you definitely need to get on the Nexus for this banger of a Star Trek Generations podcast. And over our once in a lifetime, we are going to
Starting point is 01:38:16 be talking about an absolutely demented of God, I forgot about that. George went nonsense called the Mary in-laws. That's about like Santa Claus' son is like banging a lady and he's going to get married and now Santa himself, George went. He's going to inject
Starting point is 01:38:32 himself into that scenario. Absolutely. As is Mrs. Claus played by Shelley Long at the Cheers reunion. That's right. And we have a commentary on American movie coming out of a single comedy. This is a great month. Oh, yeah. Yes. Give us $10 and get everything. We got a Melro coming out.
Starting point is 01:38:48 We've got, and I think probably either at the end of this month or the early next month, the Bobavet podcast is going to start up on $10. That's right. People have been asking. We recapped the Mandalorian. Every episode has been recapped on the
Starting point is 01:39:04 Patreon feed. And people have been wondering, are we going to do the Book of Boba Fed? Yes, we are. We'll be doing an episode for all seven episodes of whatever that TV show ends up being. Also the Gleap Glouclery this month of December. A little story about a guy named Obi-Wan Kenobi. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Yes. That might be a big boy. Yeah. And if you're unfamiliar with the Gleap Glossary, I read stupid old Star Wars canon to these guys. And they say mean things to me. And you say mean things about the characters and the stories too. But I want them to,
Starting point is 01:39:38 people like me being a punching bag. So they will love the Gleep Glosses. And here on the main feed, of course. We Love Movies Month will continue into next Tuesday, Steve, what's crack in there? Yeah, we started with one of the best movies that were made. Let's keep it going with
Starting point is 01:39:52 Sam Ramey's Spider-Man. No, it's not one of the best movies ever made, but the movie fucking rules. You'll get a nice reappraisal because I think a lot of the younger people are like that movie's silly and I'm like, what the ought to one, really? Yeah, I think that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I mean, it's similar to Casablanco. We greenlit it right after 9-11. No. We green-lit it before 9-11. Yeah, there's a big poster problem there. Yeah, I'm excited for that. Of course, we're doing that because no way home. No way home.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Coming out. So this is this is Sam Ramey doing it right. I rewatch this in quarantine. I'm telling you it still holds up. And of course, the greatest gift of all, speaking of fucking auto focus, DeFoe
Starting point is 01:40:38 going fucking DeFoe crazy. So that's going to be a lot of fun. Until next week with Sam Ramey's Spider-Man. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Seda. Eric Siska. He's Gabby. Take it easy.

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