We Hate Movies - S13 Ep632: Stone Cold (with Josh Lewis)

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

On this week's episode, this title may be on the H feed, but it’s a total WLM as the guys welcome back friend of the show Josh Lewis, from the Sleazoids podcast to help spread the word about the totally under-seen action classic, Stone Cold! How great is this cold open in the grocery store? Was The Boz’s mullet designed by NASA? And just marvel at this wild helicopter stunt at the end! PLUS: The film features one of the most disgusting smoothies we’ve seen since End of Days!  Stone Cold stars Brian ‘The Boz’ Bosworth, William Forsythe, Arabella Holzbog, Sam McMurray, Richard Gant, Evan James, Paulo Tocha, David Tress, and Lance Henriksen as Chains; directed by Craig R. Baxley.  Catch the guys on the road this fall in the U.S.A. AND their Canadian debut in Toronto! Tickets on sale now! Check out the WHM Merch Store -- featuring new MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna?, Mortal Kombat & Bean Dinner designs! Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the program, there's an H here, but it's definitely an L. We're talking about Stone Cold. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stone Cold Steve Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. Josh Lewis. And we hate movies.

Hello, everyone, Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. This week, I feel like it's a long time coming. It's 1991 stone Cole directed by Craig R. Baxley, director of

previous episode, I Come in Peace and the great Action Jackson. And here to talk about it. Sleesoid podcast, own Josh Lewis. Back to the program. How you doing, buddy? I am doing wonderful. I am glad that we can finally spread the good word of the buys this week.

Have you heard the good word? This was your pick, man. So floor is yours. What is your history with this film, how'd you first come to it? I had a friend recommend this to me on a whim. I just said I was looking for something short and trashy

and I had my mind absolutely melted by this thing out of nowhere. I was like, who is this beefcake flame out football player? Why does he have a Komodo dragon as a pet? Why is he the worst cop in the universe doing some of the most

ambitiously scaled destruction for a movie on its budget level. And ever since, I have just, it's been one of my go-to movies to show to people. Because it's like if no one has heard of it and any time you throw it on, everyone leaves the movie like, why have I never heard of that? It's a great question. And it's pretty disgusting that it's really not available anywhere. Like we were saying before we went on the there was an olive Blu-ray. So if you want to go overseas ordering, you can do that. But you know, folks at like Arrow and Vinegar Syndrome, maybe listen to this episode. Be reminding

of the magic of Stone Cold. Where's Olive Blu-ray from? Is that like Italy? I'm actually not sure, but I have it and it's region-free. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's cool. That's good to know. I think I don't live's UK. I remember this movie coming out as a kid. Like, I just know, like, thinking that it was a real movie. Like, oh, people are really excited about Stone Cold.

And I think it was like an HBO movie too. Like, maybe it was on rotation there. It definitely was. Yeah. If it was, I somehow was just never at the TV to watch. watch it because this was my first go at it and this movie's fucking fantastic. I had a blast with this. And I really wish I had this as a kid because I would have been a biker gang guy by now, I think. Oh, definitely. You'd be a hard as nails biker. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, with a one word

name like vitamin or trouble or tool. So Steve, yeah, what is the Brian Bosworth deal? So he was a football player. Was it in Seattle for a fashion? Yeah, apparently for the Seahawks. He was like a hot shit college football player and I guess like because he's like, yeah because he was like good looking and like he had the nickname the boss and like had some on field antics etc. He did go to

the NFL for only two or three years but his shoulder was dog shit and then like that was it. And then like they were like he became like a movie star that's yeah well he also had like a huge larger than life persona and he literally called it pressing the boss button

when he would get on the field. There's this great documentary for anyone who's interested in actually exploring more of him later called Brian and the Boss that ESPN did in like 2014. It's on Disney Plus. He essentially walks you through his football career

as if it's like this tragic Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde story. And he's like, it all stemmed from the rocky relationship with my dad who pushed me too hard. And I had to become like this self-marketed, branded persona that loved the camera and had a hairstylist and like, like, you know, wore a shirt that said the NCAA was national communists against athletes. And he was just like, like an absolute madman alienated all of the people on his team,

alienated his coach, eventually got suspended for steroid use and tried to sue the NFL to like get the, you know, the numbers that he wanted. He was just like a crazy dude. And he just loved playing to the camera. well that's what every time we go go on i i i press the sadge button you know what i mean and it's just like fucking look out because this is it is yeah just enjoy the ridege button dude that's what you're calling jerking off these days just to remember just to remind everybody that there is a j there because they all forget so here's the way you're going to remember

i realized too i was sort of mashing up this movie with another totally uh underseen classic, the taking of Beverly Hills. Yes. With another dude who was like a pro athlete career ending something something injury and then he's just in that movie. And I think that, I mean, that guy definitely

has fewer movies than the Baza even got. Oh, this is kind of this is a nice little comfortable direct to DVD, direct to video career here. Although I think this was theatrically released. There should be more like like athletes today kids out there if you're playing ball right now try to get

into some weird scuzzy underground movie making or something we need it we do need it because taking Beverly Hills is also a fun ass time what it's kind of wild about this movie is because it's like you know it is just sort of like it was billed as like the boss is coming on the screen you know what I mean

like for whomever would give a shake but it is absolutely Lance Henriksen was so game to be in this movie like you would think like Oh, I'll be the bad guy in the athlete fucking movie that no one's going to see. He is so stoked to be in Stone Cold. I think he's signed before everybody else.

I think he might have been the first one to sign because he's got that energy. Like he really does. Like he's keyed into this guy from the minute. Even more than Bosworth. And I actually, I kind of wish I had seen Bosworth as a kid because I prefer him to Segal, if I'm being 100% correct. I guess I way more energy. Yeah.

Well, as far as I know, the Boz has not had, and I didn't see the documentary on ESPN, but as far as I know, the Boz never had a sex dungeon in his house. And there's no friend of Russia. Okay, now I don't like him anymore. Yeah, I don't like Bozworth anymore now. But Lance Hendrickson is like really bringing it to your point. And he's, I guess he's making it his movie almost. It's that tug of war here. Well, and speaking of Segal, William Forsyth is his underling and William Forsythe the same year as Out for Justice.

And he's basically doing like the same kind of sweaty, murderous, like, angsty rage kind of a character. But he gets to fill it with a little bit because I know Seagall cut like 50% of his role as a producer when they were making that film because he was outacting him. So here's like William Forsyth just unleashed and getting to like, you know, just, you know, him and Henriksen, they go in a scene together. they are playing this, like, you know, they're bringing history and emotion to characters that's not written for them. It's kind of incredible. Romance.

Heat and romance to these roles. It's unbelievable when they, and I got to say, I really prefer this fat, angry, sweaty Forsyth to the cut we get in like the rock when he's like, he's slimmed down a bit. This is just phenomenal. This mouth he's got.

The words right out of my mouth, Chris. He, in the late 80s, in early 90s, he looked like absolute shit, and he was bringing in. Yes. And then he just kind of calmed down, you know? Yeah, I mean, he was, he was unhinged in, in out for justice and this. It's, it's beautiful to see him

go, this like, fat diamond mow here, you know? And, uh, Raising Arizona as well, obviously. Oh, he's very disgusting in that movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, well, because Forsyth had the upper hand when you had to look scuzzy because he already kind of looks like a human pig man.

Mm-hmm. And in this movie, like the wig that he's got, it's disgusting. I mean, the guy is just like oozing slees in all the best ways. Is out for justice the one where Forsyth pulls the dude out of the car and shoots him in the head? Yeah, yes. One of the funniest

things you'll ever see. By the way, this is this is a Raising Arizona reunion of sorts because the guy who plays Lance Sam McMurray was Glenn in Raising Arizona. Like the shitty neighbor parent guy. I just remember him as the

shitty dad from freaks and geeks. That's what I always think of him from. A little weekend homework for everybody. Lance Hendrickson and William Forsyth were also in a movie from 1985, a biker action movie called Savage Dawn with George Kennedy, Richard

Lynch, and Karen Black as well. Wow. Is that adapted from the Turner Diaries or what? A vicious biker gang is intent on destroying a small town in Arizona, a war veteran visiting an old friend with a few locals with nothing to go to war with the viker, the gang's ruthless leader.

I love these movies set in locate, you know, like Arizona, small this, small like Mississippi. Andrew, I think you were texting about it earlier today about how this is like a, we, you don't see a lot of movies set in places like this. No, you definitely don't. And that's what we were saying. The other Craig R. Baxley film that we've done, I Come in Peace with Dolngren. That's also, that's set in like Dallas or some shit. Houston, I think. Houston. Yeah, you're right. Houston. And it's just like, all right. Yeah, you know, nothing against the town, but they're not really like movie towns. They got that and sidekicks.

Oh, that's right. Big hits. I'm not paid by the movie Savage Dawn. However, William Forsyte's character name is pig iron. Just want to be put that out. Oh, yeah. It is. Either we are going to do it or Josh is going to do it. So at some point, I'm sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, and I'm glad you guys brought up, I come. in peace because we've covered that on the show too because we did a whole Dolph Lundgren month at one point and it was a wonderful going through like the some of the B-sides like he did a Russell Mulcahy sniper

movie that's almost like a direct to video Joseph von Sternberg movie called Silent Trigger. Never heard of it before we did it and I was like blown away but I come in peace was also a weird one because if I'm correct is that someone really alien he shoots like a wristband that has like CDs and there's

POV shots of the CDs like flying around and going into people's throats. It's not. Just a beautiful. Amazing. I'm definitely due for a rewatch of that because I'm pretty sure that's like one of the first like 20 episodes. Yes. And, you know, to give you an idea, this will be episode 630 something.

So long time away from I Come in Peace, but fantastic film. Now, this movie starts off really great cold open here. We got the boss. He's just trying to shop at the grocery store. I love this whole thing. This outfit. This whole outfit. robbing a grocery store

fucking hilarious. It's a scene that in any other movie in the history of cinema would take place in a bank and this is a grocery store and I think it's because we couldn't figure out, yeah, the bank said no, we couldn't figure out filming at the bank. It's a bank robbery

scene. Well, pretty much. But this we love doing this though. Cobra starts with a market raid. One of the Seagal ones opens with a market raid. Like we did like, it's the war on domesticity. A maniac sweating and firing a machine gun into Ritz Crackers boxes. That's the most evil thing. It's an assault on America. This guy's got a waterfall. A waterfall of sweat coming

off this guy. He's got the Coke sweat of 10 Coke addicts. It's incredible. I just want to say that the Baz probably elevates this to a level it doesn't need to go to. Like, I think they might leave when they get the money. Like, yeah, they're shooting a bunch of one. It starts, the guy shoots up a bunch of Ritz crackers. And another guy goes, I love it. Which I love. But then he kind of sort of takes a, this girl with the headgear braces on hostage. But I think that's only when the boss escalates things.

I think if they, you know what I mean? Sometimes just let these guys get in and get out and get their fucking crank money and move on. I also love that he doesn't like arrive at the scene as a cop. He's already been suspended for insubordination. That's pretty great. By happenstance, he's going for like a late night snack run. in this massive black leather duster

and the dirty blonde mullet and yeah, he just happens to be in the room just eating a cookie when people are. The crime, the exploding crime rates, my lord. By the way, that duster, I love it so much. It's got those giant like shoulder pads. He looks like a vampire from space in this thing.

Yes, it's very, it would fit well in like outworld. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Cool jacket, dude, nice. Any of these guys, like you bring chains, Lance Hendrickson to Outworld to fight in Mortal Kombat. I'm like, yeah, I see why he's here. Oh, yeah.

It makes sense. You could take on a Syrax very easily. And I don't know if we can properly sell this haircut he's got in this movie. It's as if he actually skinned a skunk and put it on his head. Like, just put like old-fashioned making a hat out of a raccoon type thing. But you just skinned an entire skunk and put it on your head. It's a two-toned, you know, it's a bright blonde shock mohawkie. kind of thing and the brown

sides but the back of it goes in on itself it doesn't it's not allowed to flow like a waterfall it's always like coiled like a snake well because you have the white you have to get the white there that's a second layer you're getting down there and I think that makes it so you can't even get much sweat going

even I mean there are a lot of times in this movie where you would think that thing would be just a mop and just drenching shit but no it's it sounds you're describing like a mullet design by NASA You talked about the fucking, like, aerodynamics of this mullet. There was an, there had to be a mullet engineer on, I mean, most of the money is on screen.

I got to say with this one, all the explosions, they really do, they put it on there. And I think a lot of it had to do with this haircut and people just managing it day to day. Well, it's very important because you get a look at this mullet and immediately you were like, oh, I know what this movie is. I know exactly the tone of this movie, possibly even how long the movie's going to be without looking at the timeline. Like, oh, look at that mullet. It's a movie that's under 97 minutes. Yeah, well, that's my favorite quality about even throwing on a Baxley movie sometimes is he was very famous for coming in late to a project and literally just stripping it as much as he could. And quite famously, actually, Baz even like did a Q&A for this where he said that they used $4 million of their budget before he.

got on to shoot a bunch of stuff with like a sister and like a family and he had a huge backstory and Craig Raxley came in and just literally he's like yeah I'm not using any of that footage we are just starting from scratch and and the original film I think was supposed to be Bruce Malmuth who did Seagull's Hard to Kill and Nighthawks with Stallone and Rucker Hower which is one of the weirder like crosses between 70s crime actioners and like the more incoherent bigger 80 stuff where like the climax for some reason is Stallone like cross dressing to eliminate Rucker Hauer by the end and like the big shootout and either way Bruce Malmuth I'm not sure exactly why he was fired but Craig R. Baxley who was just this like legendary

stunt coordinator who worked with Walter Hill and McTiernan and I think got started directing doing a bunch of episodes of the A team and they and he was and also it's worth noting and you can tell in this film. He was also himself just a stunt driver. He loved flipping cars and riding motorcycles and so when they brought him onto this film, they were like, that's very clearly the stuff that he does well. Let's write a

movie around just getting me to all of those sequences and they did it pretty successfully. Yeah, thank God. If they did the family angle, it would be bogged down. This wouldn't be the monumental legend that it is because it would be like every other action movie. This movie is benefited

by not having that. We learned nothing about Joe, a.k.a. John Stone, which is an interesting choice, but I think it works. It's more of a Ford Fair Lane type situation. Like, when you go to his home life, it's just comical nonsense.

Like, having... Stupid pet. Having the lizard pet and making it the shake of death in the morning. The details are just incoherre. Yeah, it's just like, whatever, man. They're like, that'd be funny. What is this life? He's got this this Komoto dragon or whatever. And then he's

going to the supermarket in the middle of the night and he's suspended from his job again as always. By the way, he gets out of the situation which is by Huckin' dudes, like grabbing guys and just flinging them like they would be

frisies. Yeah, it's just like launching men into things. And of course, the detective sets him up. He's like, you're a suspension stone. What are you doing here? And he's like, what do you have to say for yourself this time? And of course, beat Clean Up on Isle 4.

Hell yeah. Huge electric guitar lick. Absolutely. This guitar kicks in and you are just like ready to rock with this fucking movie. That guitar hits and you're like, oh, this is the kind of movie that like they're watching, you know, it's like the $1,000 movie on The Simpsons. Like all the bad TV action movies that The Simpsons are watching, you're like, oh fuck, I'm watching a real life version of that. Yeah, I've always pitched this to people as it almost feels like. like a fake macho 80s action film that you would invent in a dream after like binging them

for 24 hours straight. Absolutely. Like it has the recognizable beats. It's got the signifiers. It's got all the scenes and the moments. Right. But it is missing all of like the story that people try to write into that stuff or if it doesn't and it actually, you know, does follow a sort of plot trajectory.

He combines them and, you know, he rips through stuff really quickly because like that guitar, lick goes straight into a montage where they show you. you this gang and you just, it's like a series of impressions. It's insane. It's like you get all the boots and the bandanas and the terrible tattoos, the Confederate flags. They're shooting like beer cans off each other's heads and blowing up car. Just for no reason. And then you get them I think for some reason going to a baptism and point blank shotgunning a priest through stained glass, like full wire pull and everything. And you're like, why? the baby back to the couple that he presumably just baptized this and then suddenly there's this biker

with a double-barreled shotgun pointing at this guy's chest where did he come from what is happening the priest goes out the window and the priest's death you never know anything about besides that but it's the major plot thing of the movie kind of objection your honor i need that scene you know what i mean like listen i we're having fun here i like a lead mean movie like what in the world was that. The best thing about that is that immediately cuts to the judge, right? And the judge is like, yeah, he's been sentenced to first degree murder, I think. For 45 years. And my favorite thing is they, then they cut to Lance Hendrickson or it might be Will the Forrest and be like, 45 years, that's bullshit. All he did was blow away a priest in a fucking

church. Well, to be fair, this movie wants you to fill in the blanks. Use your imagination and I'll tell you right now, it's a fucking priest, man. It's a fucking priest, man. It's didlin. If you shot in a priest in the middle of a christening, that guy's a super didler. So maybe chains and all his buddies? They were on to something. So you're a chain supporter. I didn't

know that. Okay. Chain 2024 dude. Yeah, dude. You know, God forgives the brotherhood doesn't. Yeah. What I love is, so that happens. And then immediately after the judge is like 45 years, slam. And then you see this judge on a boat and you're like, well, this isn't going to go.

45 years now to start my peaceful vacation And he just explodes He just explodes It's great It's like some dark night shit It's fucking hilarious It's like a little robo too

It's not even like a big He's just like you put like a pound A C4 On this tiny dinky boat I'm kind of surprised It didn't sink because of the amount of explosives it must have on it I'll tell you what dude

It's because William Forsyth He gets the job done he's not going to half-ass no judge assassination you got to make sure that dude's dead you come in a judge you better make sure he's dead

well then we get Sam so Sam McMurray stops the boss after he makes this shake full of fucking like what is it it's orange juice I got the whole thing

oh you do orange juice the smoothie here two snickers potato chips a banana two eggs including the shells including the shells

here's the question I had to the boss like he puts the blender on and he starts reading a newspaper at that point I just put some of the newspaper in the fucking blender too why just eat that or have your stupid little lizard eat it you weirdo I guess he's trying to kill this thing that's the only way this makes any sense right he's trying he got the pet as like from an ex-girlfriend is like here's your food sweetheart because this is poisoned to any animal alive

or he's trying to fucking kill that security deposit for that apartment dude because this thing is going to have diarrhea of fucking acid diarrhea all over this apartment once he feeds it and goes out to do his cop shit for the day. It doesn't even want to eat it. No. He's straight up. He refuses to eat it and he picks him up and he's like soups on my man.

Listen up. You're going to have to eat your grub if you want to be a stud. Oh man. Yes. And he is in a work. We should say he's in a workout outfit. Of course he is. Oh, yeah. Wait, the lizard? Yeah. Sam McBurry bust him out and then he basically

he meets up with the guy, the dude who plays Richard Gant, dude, he's the fucking coroner and Jason goes to hell. As well as the, what do you call it, substitute in the Don King substitute in Rocky Five. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Right. That's totally right.

And the guy that says, don't hope for the credence in Big Lafousy. But it's great because this is another dropped line where it's like, you know, this biker gang is going, we're in Mississippi. He's in Alibu, Bosworth's in Alabama, but in Mississippi

this biker gang's going crazy and three religious figures have been targeted in three weeks. Question mark, question mark, question mark. I think we know the other two probably. There's a lot of SSes on these guys' outfits here. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I would like to see them go after a rabbi. And then also just go for a Buddhist monk. You know what I mean? Like just a Buddhist monk with it with a chainsaw. Chains, I can't believe it. I went to go set him on fire and he's self-amulated.

he was protesting our attack I put the mug up in a shower rink and a chainsaw starts up Exactly I'd like to see this So what you're pissed off that it was just three priests You just see the one priest go right through the window You don't see the rest of it Oh and that's it I got it They definitely could have included it in the two minute montage

Of showing their massacre But so yeah they're basically like All right man like we need you to go go undercover and infiltrate this gang. And this is a weird thing where he's like, yeah, you know, the boss is like, I think I'm just going to ride out my three week suspension for, you know, fucking the mayor's wife

or whatever happened in the previous movie we didn't see. And then these dudes are like, oh yeah? Well, that suspension can go from three weeks to six months without pay because we're the FBI. And you're like, all right. I guess so. I guess you really need this dude's help that desperately.

We need the movie to start, Andrew. the movie is just like twiddling its fingers we have to start and we have to get to the brotherhood and I have to say one thing I like about the brotherhood is that we're always talking about the other chapters like it is an actual like

it is run like a kind of a business like he's like I got to talk to my Pensacola guy later today and he's going to like run the drugs over into like Alabama I just like it also is weird that Chains Cooper Lance Hanrickson's character he is

such like a like it's he's murderous of course and he's a psychopath but like he's also like kind of all about good vibes too. Well he wants his guys to be having a good time. That's bike or life dude. That's bike or life. He's dripped out in his apartment. He's Zen.

That apartment his like I mean it's weird because it's an apartment kind of but it's just like a part of the hideout which is gross because it's a biker hideout but his little area very nicely decorated. There's a fucking record collection, a bunch of cool lamps

and whatnot. He has to get up there by climbing a rope. Like that's the only way up. Yep, yep, he does. That's the way you get into now. That's how you keep a physique. You know what? That's how he does it. At one point, Forsyth has to like talk to him about something. He's like, I don't know about this new recruiter or whatever. And like, he's sort of Nazi meditating, I guess. That's what I would call it just because there's so much like hate in the room. But he's like, killing my vibes, dude. And I'm like, okay.

what vibe were we going for i'm recharging my anti-semitic chakra dude can you give me a minute can you just uh you know what you're really bumming me out i'm trying to rewatch triumph of the will for the 78th time and i'm just trying to get in my my zone here so could you please uh hey speaking of uh keeping in the shape 602 a m sam mary rolls up on the boss's apartment and the boss is in this fucking uh skimpy little black banana and a hammock, look out below with this shit. Didn't expect this to be on screen. He's looking very good.

I got to say, and of course, we get our first flash of what is some quite gratuitous nudity. Oh, yes. Yeah, naked lady in the bed and he turns in the FBI guy and he's like, you ever see one of those before? Not that kind of model. Not his well made, which is like, well made. That's right. He also really loves to just like, explain basic concepts

to these FBI agents. I love that. And I mean, he has to because obviously they're beta schmucks in comparison. And there's this great part where they literally are like,

so when it comes to like taking down a biker gang, so we're going to like have an agent, he's going to infiltrate, he's going to get a witness, he's going to do a sting. And then he goes, yeah, they're not taking a prospect though.

And they're like, what's a prospect? They are really, really stupid FBI agents. Yeah. like very noticeably done. Hey, FBI, you know what FBI agents? I think what we're going to have to do is put me under cover.

Undercover? What's that? This is, it's when you pretend to be somebody else, but for real. You might think that Chris is joking, but there's literally a part where he takes him to the biker tit for tat strip club. And he explains the concept of a strip club. Yes. He literally goes, yeah, so the truckers come here

and they look at naked ladies. Yeah. I think he's trying to explain like the crank operation. Sure. Right, because there's a moment in there where some guys grabbing the girls because one of the strippers sold them bad drugs of some kind of, I guess, crank.

And then this is where Bosworth helps with the bar battle to start getting him into this biker group. Right. I'm going to just make a guess and I'll never know this because Forsyth, guarantee he doesn't remember it. I think he looks like a

grown up version of Bam Bam is absolutely a William Forsythe Adlib. I would just you know what I mean? You think so? He just starts calling him Bam Bam too, which is kind of great. It also looks like it hurts his feelings for real. It's not the first time this character has heard that about himself and he's like, fuck the Bam Bam stuff

again. Thought I shook that shit back at the surf club or whatever this guy does for fun. It'd be funny if he just kept on trying to give him a club. Like just like for bottom different kinds of clubs is like here you go bam now you know

a job's a job obviously and if the gig pays sure but man you know what's kind of weird about this scene being part of the live band that's playing the strip club eke that is a fucking lowly gig man

and it doesn't have like the sheen of a killing of a Chinese bookie type show either it's much more grungier just a little like grungy metal band it sounds like you i feel like you could get away with that in the 70s you know it's just like yeah it's like uh it's like uh you know an adult review show or something like that but this is like somebody get a fucking cd player it's 1991 you don't need these dudes playing at this strip club also they're taking up room on the stage there's all these ladies

everywhere trying to dance you got fucking donald duck done smoking a pipe playing the bass in the back on it goes there for live music only like they're just like not looking at the girls. The house band's great. That's the cover. You got to be like, oh, no, four chains are playing tonight, sweetheart. I'm just going up the road. That's a great point.

The road. Just four chains are playing. They're great. Great point, yeah. No, I don't want to see the naked ladies. I want to see the, you know, I'm into metal now. I'm just going for the music and the low quality crank. That's it.

I swear to God. I do love that the idea that you, these guys come in and they try and return it, like basically, Like you go to the gap with like jeans that don't fit These drugs weren't exactly what we were looking for I'd like my money back please Oh what was the problem Were they too short or too long or did you just You didn't like the design of the drugs

Wouldn't every drug wouldn't every drug I'd be doing this like this didn't get me high enough I take it back This is why you need someone like William Forsyth Or the boss in your crew to crack your skull open if you dare talk about returning anything. Which I love that Baxley starts with a

POV shot between a dude's legs as he's about to get rocked so hard in the nuts. Like you've never seen. This kick to the fucking balls is like it's like a dude in the NFL who knows that this field goal is going to win the Super Bowl.

He is kicking this fucking dude in the nuts. Like it is going through the uprights man and I am here for it. The only thing that's missing is him coughing them up. Or at least fucking vomiting. He flies like Yunwumping was fucking doing this thing. Like he just goes up.

Like I fucking, I was like, okay, now I love this movie. Now we're in. Now I'm locked in. We're also introduced to, unfortunately, who I would be in the biker gang, the low level dude gut. Oh, gut. You'd be gut, definitely.

He's watching. The moral conscience of the Nazi biker gang, I'm just here for the crank and the booze and the ladies. And the good times. Can we cool with, the racism guys, but like, hey man, I'm not here to kill any

cops or nothing. I just wanted to make hate speech with my buddies. Gut is, yeah, gut is an interesting character study. Did you guys see there's a biker called Tool? You guys recognize this guy? No, familiar. Tony Pierce.

Oh, he looks familiar already. He's one of Rick Moranis' friends and big bully. Yes. When he goes back to the hometown, he's a guy that drives like the fire truck. I knew it. I knew it was That guy? Oh, wait a second. That guy, the guy who later in this movie gets fucking totally jacked up by a casually tossed grenade. Exactly. That is him. Yes. Oh, I thought he looked familiar. But you know what? Eric, he didn't have an IMDB picture. And I was like, don't have time for this. What's funny, I recognized him instantly because I was like, this guy, there's no one's this thin and red-haired. It must be the same guy. And it was. So, you know, because he's sort of saved William Forsyth here in the moment, whatever, gut invites Boz here, Mr. Stone, to the Brotherhood compound or Brotherhood rally or whatever.

Yeah, he just makes that good of impression. All of them are standing around doing the Seagall movie isms of like, damn, whoa. Look at that. Look at how big he is. Look at him hurled that man over the bar and just smash the entire bar up. So he gets invited to the homoerotic. meetup where they all drag race and like rock sleeveless mussel shirts and just like pick each other up for you know not even there is a there is a beach wrestling pit but not even

at the beach wrestling pit they just love like grabbing each other well because this is like biker gang Olympics right because you had yes can shoot you had man toss you had man drag yeah which is it's not dudes in drag which you know would be a Assumption. No, no, it is two dudes holding under ropes being pulled on the back of a truck and who can hold on the longest. It is the winner. Good Lord. You are also missing the all important car shoot. It's one of the great experience. They just blow up a car that I assume they were going to use for something at some point. These dudes remind me of speaking of crazy bikers having fun on the beach. All the fucking crazy whack jobs in Mad Max. Yes. I'm the first Mad Max where they're just all farting around on the beach and shooting each other in the water and whatnot. To Josh's point about how Baxley strips this down,

Stone Cold gets off his motorcycle and just starts walking towards this pit fight situation without anyone being like, oh, that's Roscoe, he's the toughest fit fighter. Whoever wins against Rosco gets the boss's favorite. He just kind of just gets off the motorcycle, guts like, oh, hey man, and then he just gets it and starts fighting this guy.

He literally takes his shirt off, like, while still walking over there. And they're like, yeah, I guess it's his turn now. Sure. Yeah, there's a sign up for him, I guess. It's kind of like, this is a video game, and you're playing through, and you're like, I already fucking got killed in this part. So, yeah, I'm going to press X to skip the cutscene and just get back to the fighting again. Which I appreciate this is economic storytelling.

It is. By the time you get to the end of this, folks, you wouldn't believe the kill count. It's just extraordinary. gut is really like the one who's like telling him like I've never seen somebody so just happy to be usurped like he's just like please boss please just beat the shit out of this guy

and let me watch it and then be my friend please I can't wait for us to be friends during this beach fight chains played by the great Lance Henriksen is watching everything and it was so funny because again like I said earlier today first time I watched the film ever I knew Lance Hanrickson was in it.

Of course, Chris's great teaser from last week's episode, right? You've liked Lance Hendrickson. You were going to love Lance Hendrickson in this movie. So I'm waiting for Hendrickson, and I did not recognize him as this character for a second. It's how Lance Hendrickson has never looked to me in a movie before. He disappears in the role. He does.

He's got this, like, long, stringy hair, and he's unsettling, for sure, yeah. He looks like fucking Gary Oldman and Dracula with those things. If Walter Hill had made Pirates of the Caribbean in the early 90s, this is your Jack Sparrow right here. This guy, he's looking fantastic. He's very leathery. He's also his voice. I don't know if it's a thing where he's putting on a voice for the character

or this is before he switched to Marb lights. But like he is just like, every voice, everything that comes out of him is like, oh, it's been a long night. Oh, man. He also looks like he's constantly telling a joke, despite how tough and scary, he obviously is trying to come off. And, you know, he's like, man, I'm so impressed with your knuckle sandwiches and your attitude. And he's, like, putting on, like, a big smile while he's saying it.

Because that's, you know, that's what bikers like, you know? They're scary, but they appreciate a nice knuckle sandwich when they see it. Because he, like, that wrestling match, I love that it stops being wrestling about halfway through, because they're just two guys in jeans, nothing but jeans in the sand. And they stop wrestling and they just start slugging each other back and forth until, the boss straight up uppercuts the dude so hard that he backflips. And that is the backslip touch because he comes obviously from the stunt background and he could clearly get his stunt artist to do whatever they wanted.

But every single moment, and this is one of my favorite qualities, it's dynamic and practical and huge, whether it makes sense or not. Like even that opening grocery store bit, there's a part where I think he tricks a guy by throwing a can of spinach at him. And then he slides on just some like spilled liquid on the floor. And the slide is like the dude was going a hundred miles an hour and he got rug pulled at the last minute. Like that's how huge the like slip that he does. And Baxley just loves that.

And obviously it makes such an incredible thing to watch that every moment makes no physical sense. But a real stunt guy is about to fly somewhere. It's a cartoon with real meat at stake here. Yes. I mean, thank you for pointing out that slip because I did have an. my notes. It's a weird, he tosses a can of some sort of green vegetable as a just like a noise distraction. And then the guy like fires or whatever, but then he runs another way. And this dude, there's just like spilled cooking oil in the aisle. And that's what he slips on and launches

into this amazing tower of Coca-Cola classic cans. Holy fuck that guy eats shit. It's incredible. Oh, man. After the wrestling match, uh, right. Bosworth comes back. I guess he, he comes in in a van and Lance Henriksen and his lady friend are just going through it and it just seems like the start of a gross threesome like a really like this is yeah but like but it's even worse

because he's like hey man you can use my lady it's Nancy this is Arabella Holtzbach who's kind of like the lead female in the film who has like nine lines of dialogue she's the only biker who doesn't get a sick name she's just Nancy that's weird and it's just like hey man you can just use Nancy however you want

I'll feel back a little bit. It's like, I don't want to do that. No, I left the keys in her, so I go have fun. Now, listen to me, you can trust me. My name is Chains, by the way. And here is my associate mudbird who has been picking through your stuff. I'll also have sex with my girlfriend, please. The focus on the social hierarchy of the biker game,

like a lot of this movie is like actually showing you how this works, how the women make their way up or don't like either you're you're a top girl or you're just the woman who's playing pool whose tits just pop out into the camera at a random point or you're taking a shower

next to the Nazi flags outside that was the weirdest thing that fucking outside shower just in the middle of this shanty town for the SS biker gang it's Mississippi it's you know it's hot down there you gotta take a shower sometimes

I mean these dudes are basically living in like a spawn ranch kind of situation somewhere. They have, and they have some ICE has two ladies, so they have some like Mormon type thing going on in here. They're allowed to take multiple and

trade as they will. Just to talk about it as the hierarchy. It's not really Mormons, dude. I think, I think the Mormons stole it from bikers. I think you're right. The bikers definitely came first. They were on like the unicycle

or whatever. And they went out west and then the Mormons were like, well, they got it pretty nice. The Mormons appropriated. That's what happened there for sure. And God and God said to make crank and proliferated across the country. By the way, see us in Salt Lake City

this November. Yeah, there you go. Come to blue's life. Wild thing here. And this is where like we're doing some quick work to be like our dude here at the boss is playing a guy who has values because like

Lance Henriksen is like, yeah, have a good time with my old lady. Yeah. And closes the door and then this lady's like ready to fucking you know get down on the boss and he goes unlike your old man i know that a pretty lady isn't something you give away and you're just like oh he's got on or under that mullet got it excellent that's what's holding it up there's a not even a sub but these plot of the movie is this guy uh uh uh governor whittington is going is upset that the 45 year sentence on the guy that killed

the Baptist minister was too light and wants to appeal that sentence as the DA to get a death penalty. Whilst running for governor, dude, it's a campaign promise. I'm going to get this priest killer

executed. Excuse me. The priest killer has a name okay. It's Trouble Owens. That's amazing. That is the gun. So actually, question about trouble owns Chris Gavin. Is he like, because they are breaking their fucking back trying to get this dude out of prison, right? This whole D-Day mission. The whole thing is to get this dude, you know, out of jail and

whatever. Is he like the number one guy and Chains has just risen to the occasion? I don't know. After the arrest. I don't know if it's back. It might be. I feel like it has to be. At the very least, he's like the Willie Nelson to his James Conn and thief. Like, the guy that like he needs to do it because they have this connection you know they just they started this nazi s shit together and they want to finish it together and they're very they're very they're they have a lot of pride about that that's beautiful if the movie has a clock it is that um the next day the boss goes over and like there's ways to impress a biker gang without getting shot in the chest and i think that i think giving somebody like like chains a uh bulletproof vest is really just asking for trouble. You know what I mean? And he's already being suspected of like possibly being an infiltrator and they're like so you showed up

with a government issue like bulletproof vest that's what you brought here which by the way another sort of Baxley ism thing in here briefly I can't believe and this is the thing that elevates this movie on a moment to moment's base because we've talked about how economical and how it moves but there's a shot in here that always floors me every time I watch it because there's no reason for him to have to do this shot. It's like a needlessly complicated like Jackie Chan kind of thing

where just straight up, they introduced Boz walking in to give Henrickson this gift and he walks in and to show Henrickson entering the room. They have the shot of this dude throwing a knife into a photo of an ass crack that is next to the door Henrickson's about to walk through. And the camera literally whip pants from the Boz and this guy throwing the knife over to the knife hitting the ass crack photo and still wobbling back and forth as Henrickson comes through the door right beside that knife

like just a few inches away from where it was thrown and it's like such a complicated like seven second shot for no reason and dangerous like Henrickson's having a knife

thrown at him and yeah and like that's how you get this moment of Henrickson walking into the room and then yeah putting the bulletproof vest on him and having a huge gleeful maniacal smile while he just shoots him in the chest and once again

the boss is a big guy he flies across the room onto a pool table no gravity in this world they just took it out it's great with the knife in the ass crack photo that's great too

is Henrickson's reaction which is nothing like he walks in and this dude does this like one of his fellow bikers does this and he's like yep doesn't have to do it he's not like what the fuck are you doing that's crazy you just threw a fucking

hunting knife at me. Nothing. It's like, oh, that's fun. They're respectful. They shoot the bullets and the beer cans off each other's heads outside. They throw knives at each other's inside. You know? There's some rules. This whole bulletproof vest thing reminded me of this fucking great

doc that's coming out called Second Chance. Has anyone heard of this? It's about this guy Richard Davis who basically invented what we know is like the modern bulletproof vest. And the way that he fucking tested it was

just this dude would just repeatedly shoot himself in the chest. Oh, wow. I thought you were going to say that he was going to like, I thought you were going to say like he put a bunch of vests on some dogs and threw him in the backyard and he started going wild on him. No, he shot himself in the chest nearly 200 times. Wow. That's great.

It's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's not it's Sundance or Southfire or something. Second chance. Think about how many inventors die every year trying to invent something, you know? There's got to be a lot. including the bulletproof mask, which never took off somehow. I don't know how.

You know what? We should, hey, Tesla, look into that one. Yeah. Test that out. No, but yeah. He gets, so he gets. I'm shooting myself in the face. Sorry.

No, so he gets the vest and like, yeah, I mean, the, the idea is like, how are you doing this? And the, the answer is, boss is just that good that he can, he can convince him that he's got this government issue stuff. And I mean, he's going to pay it off by getting this P2P, which I don't even know what that is. It's literally a made up drug. I think it's

supposed to be close to PCP is my guess. Because they do, those truckers do say crank. So I guess we couldn't license PCP. What was the drug on 90210 101 again? Oh, euphoria. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's one of those. It's a fake drug. Yeah. Right.

Okay. Yes. I mean, so yeah. boss gets shot and that of course makes him but he also proves that he's got balls of steel and Henriksen gets to deliver in my opinion the line of the film the line that summarizes the film the line that summarizes what Baxley said when he started shooting this which is this is either going to be the biggest pork chop

I ever ate or my bulldozer because Ice William Forsyth thinks that he's a cop and he's right he's like straight up this guy's giving me cop vibes That's all that's all I'm saying And you know Regardless, Henrickson is like This man is big

He's mean And either I'm gonna eat him Or I'm gonna use him And I do think he would eat him alive This character is a cannibal A thousand percent Oh yeah I mean I think they were taught

I think Trouble Owens probably got him Into it originally You know you eat a couple of teenagers You find on the road You know you do the thing We definitely need at least one more movie Besides Dead Man Where Lance Hendrickson's

eating a guy's entire arm like it's barbecue. So Stone gets an assignment from chains. He's like, all right, like it's your fealty test to the you know, to get in the biker gang or whatever. You got to go check out this dude who is

slinging like on our territory. You got to go see what that dude's up to. And we get this fucking like hysterical. Brian Bosworth just on a motorcycle. You get to watch this man's commute because you are just

there's like 25 to 30 seconds of this dude just ride in a motorcycle to meet up with this drug dealer and see what's going on like a completely

unnecessary glam rock all of it oh man this rock and roll they got here and he goes from having the biker gear

he's driving to this club and he's got like demolition man wardrobe on when he walks in it's this high collar with this

weird connector. It's absolutely atrocious. It's a sex priest. It's a sex priest. It's leather. That's about right. About to use those three she shells. But I love like he's complimenting this dude like on his dancing, like at the bar. Like he spies this dude in the dance floor.

Guy is admittedly totally cut in a rug. No doubt about it. And then Bosworth is like, hey man, you do a good job on the dance and stuff. Yeah, you're a good. rug cutter and whatnot. And this dude's like, oh yeah, you're definitely not a cop.

Yeah, I'll continue talking to you. Hello, nice friend. Nice stranger who's just talking to me like this. Seriously. But I love how Baxley just skips over this stuff because it is just straight up like, yeah, he's got to do his mission, he's got to go eliminate this guy for him.

And it just turns into this montage where he like throws him into the interrogation room. They take a cadaver's ear and they, they replicate his tattoo so that it could look like. He ripped his ear off. and with the earring in it and everything and take it back to Hendricks. And then they also show him putting that guy on a plane and being like, get out of the country.

Like we could have, you know, we were, you were meant for dead. Now you're alive. Get out of here. That kind of deal. But all of that happens in like 30 seconds. So fast. And that shows you that the government should just, well, I don't know, maybe. They, this guy comes back.

It's kind of a, you know, twist. Should have killed him. Sure. Should have actually murdered him for this undercover sign. Dropped him from the plane over the ocean, dude. Yeah. Also, we've done it all the time. It's fine.

That cadaverous ear, you better hope that stays a John Doe, by the way. Because like the next day, someone's like, oh, that guy who died in the park last week was my dad. Oh, yeah, well, your dad's ear fell off while he fell down in the park. Yeah, and they love just fucking bodies up. Like, they show you this, like, disgusting, rotted ear. They show you when that guy takes the grenade, he's charred up in the hospital. Though he's just an image at one point of William Forsyth, who's getting like a bike,

a biker Valhalla funeral. And he is just on fire, corpsified, like at the top. It's totally fucking awesome. I love the glee with which the tattoo artist is doing this ear

because like the guy's just like sitting at a table he's tattoo. It's basically the dude's whole ear had like a spider web design in it. And they cut to this guy and he's just like, I never tattooed a corpse before.

It's so fucking. he's just tired of devils and hearts he's been doing and he had to have the most complicated ear tattoo someone could have had spider web so yeah this dude gets deported or whatever but he makes Henrickson think that he's fucking killed this guy for you know getting in on the territory or whatever but then so it's a thing where it's like we got to go around

I'm going to send you out we got to collect you see how they you know collect like protection money or drug money or whatever. And this is where the guy and so you realize there's a thing going on here where the bikers are wrapped up in the mafia. And I need more Biker v. Mafia movies by the way because

amazing combination of adversaries. Totally. And the mafia is driving down the road and they're like, oh, look at this fucking son of a bitch. I recognize that redhead son of bitch anywhere. That guy's one of the bikers. He's one of the brotherhood. And this guy

casually just flicks this grenade out a car window. Joey, Joey, get my grenade. Joey, Joey, what's my grenade? Get my vine of grenades. He's just plucking them off.

Here we go. The 10th stunt guy in the movie to go through a plate of glass. It's so awesome. Look it back then in the day, you know, the Italian mafia or whatever here, move it in on Mississippi.

And they can barely keep Staten Island these days. It's really sad. It's really fucking sad. These are definitely the most ambitious bikers that have ever been depicted in a film in terms of like how they're getting getting into nationwide drugs, they're getting into religious figure murder, political murder, and with the mafia, and there's one other thing that they're getting into, too, that I can't even remember, but there's more, oh, contract hits as well. Like, it's just, they're great. I mean, they are pretty much, you're pretty much making like a Hell's Angels movie without saying Hells Angels, then you're going to fucking dust up some trouble. Don't even worry about it. But, like, the Hells Angels are like a national club on the scale. And we know, they're doing.

work for the fucking rolling. Interviewers in the press tour tried to get the boss to say Hells Angels and he wouldn't say it. By the way, now that we've said it, just want to thank them for their service. And I think you guys are doing a great job. The mafia and the bikers. Oh, absolutely.

We're pro-bo. We don't want to be in the... I don't know about pro-buquer. I'm not so bad. Oh, okay. Okay, well, we'll let him know that. Go to Steve's house. Not mine.

You know what, dude, the end of this movie is pretty much January 6th. if they got their shit together, all right? So that's kind of more successful. Yes. Well, you listen, you want to attack the Mississippi State Capitol. No problem, you know? Washington, D.C. is a little more, more, more shit there, a little more corridors. So, so just so we're clear, that's for Hells Angels are cool and one, Hells Angels suck from Steve.

I'm saying, Steve is very specifically. I think everyone's pretty great, especially those engaged in criminal enterprise. And I think they're just doing a great job. then I'd say go for it, you know? You know what? I think Gimmy Shelter was biased. That's what I think. I think that was a con job right there is what was happening.

I love the whole gang visiting fucking tool in the hospital. And like Lance Henrick said in Foresight, they're just like shoving doctors all over the place. They're forcing this woman also. Now, you know, I guess the women don't get fun bike or nicknames. Marie is being forced upon tool of like, you're going to take care of him. And it's like, let the guy fucking slug. sleep, you know? Maybe his dick's not could get hard. He's got

he's begging. He's begging Lance Hendrickson to murder him. He's like, I know that I look worse than the Joker. Please fucking kill me. No, no, you're getting your dick sucked if you like it or not. That's a thing. I think they probably did offer the girls' names

and they're like, no thing. I'm fine with Rebecca. I don't need to be called whole or mouth. Those are not good. Don't worry about it, too. Once you get out of the hospital, queef here is going to take care of it

to the end of the days. Then you don't name me mud flap after anal, okay? I will also say these guys, these bikers are friends here,

have a much better system than flowers and or a card. They've got a domino's pizza and a bottle of Jack Daniels.

Yep. The next time I'm in the hospital, which will probably be very soon, that is the gift. After the hell's angels knocks on

your fucking door, dude. I can't believe you just signed your own death sentence. they immediately look under the blanket and go look man it could be worse your dick could not be

working right now but we're looking at it and it looks awesome and it's also worth noting Henrickson he does his first wardrobe change in this scene to a chain mail crop top and jeans underneath the leather chaps. Let me tell you with this

chain mail crop top if this motherfucker teaches himself how to play saxophone he could be going around doing lost boys cosplay The fucking chain mail shirt Oh dude You're just looking like Timmy what's his face

He's looking like An extra in the sound garden video It's just like the most delicious thing I've said this chain mail he's got I might steal this look It's not bad And like they of course they have to Keep on Politically like he has a

He might not even have a hand Anymore underneath it all And they're like I got a big Q tip there buddy No hand Oh yeah that's a supremely fucked up thing And this dude's like Thanks Lance Henry

and that is really funny, but also I can't jerk off or drive anymore. Yeah, and, like, he is, like, seriously fucked up in terms of the makeup work

and everyone's cracking jokes until it's worth noting gut tries to crack a joke. And he goes, look, man, I'll play my nice harmonica tunes for you. And immediately, all the jokes stop.

Henriksen turns around and goes, take that fucking harmonica down to the parking lot, man. Nobody, nobody wants to hear your fucking harmonica. And Whipperton, on the TV, again, very economical, a lot going on in the scene. Whipton comes on the TV and is like, by the way, I'm instituting the National Guard

to a checkpoints, we're going to get rid of this biker gang. And at this point, which is a scene I do want, but the reveal is nice. Ice, William Forsyth goes to get the guy that got tool. Yeah. But then there's a scene basically where Chains gives the mafia a present, which is a motorcycle helmet. You're like, well, that's nice. Uh-oh, open it. It's your friend.

And he's got, like, funny, like, scared eyes, which I love. It's pretty awesome. That's part of the economy I love about it because it is like this thing where they go and they find the devastated dude in the hospital. It connects to the TV where things are being motivated there. And he just combined scenes everywhere. that he can and he does the same thing here where he's like we need to get revenge on the Italians but we also need to move forward the drug deal sting operation plotline at the same time so they literally go there show the the decapitated head in the helmet and then go by the way we're making

a deal with you now and they just do it in the same scene and the whole thing is yeah there's this truck of fake PCP coming in and yeah we're going to team up with the mafia it's going to be this massive buy yada yada yada and the whole thing of course being orchestrated by the baza because he's the one who's saying like i know that this truck's coming through it's my connection or whatever it's my deal so then i love the part where he's talking to the fbi he's like yeah i need like 30 barrels of pure pcp by this weekend well you know the government has it dude they're the ones making it that's true absolutely that's true at one point there is a part where sam mcmurray pulls him aside and says, look, we've got them on collection, we've got them on racketeering,

we can put this biker gang away. And Brian Bosworth very clearly is like, that's flimsy. Remember that when the capital is destroyed and 70 people are dead. This all could have been prevented, Mr. Bosworth. You know what I mean? Like, even if you get like Hendrickson for five years, like that is enough that would save this dude, Whipperton's life. But his whole thing, dude, And I agree with you. I think, you know, Mr. Stone here, the buzz is getting a little greedy, is flying a little too close to the sun and whatnot because he's telling the dude from Jason goes to hell. He's like, hey, man, not only can we get Lance Hendrickson in the Brotherhood. We can get the fucking mafia.

I'm sorry. What a bus that is taking down this nationwide biker syndicate and, you know, your vague Italian mafia situation here. eyes are too big for your stomach man the mafia can wait for another day yes in fact let them go yes there is no such thing as a four quadrant hit you know you can't know everything no it's just too much you're trying too much here buddy uh well he has the most biker gang related arrests in all of alabama so i think you guys are being a little critic okay that's right i love what the fuck is lans hendrickson doing here it's a totally maniacal moment but it means like nothing really. He's watching

another like Whipperton press conference which I love like even when in the hospital he's like hey tool I know that you're really banged up man do you mind if I turn on the TV to see if there's any developments in the movie I just want to get real angry and look at the TV for a while does this thing get local politics on it

I want to break your TV in your room when you have no fucking face like you know I was going to watch cheers in a minute dude do you mind I do like that we're fucking Whippert Like part of the thing about him getting shot is like there is no effort made by Baxley or anybody really to make Wipperton like seem like he's he's like a hero. Like you kind of are okay when he gets shot when he gets blown away. You view him as like an asshole or whatever because of 45 years in prison, that is a death sentence. Like who gives a shit? But and then it's like, oh, you know, and then the same thing is like if the bikers kill Wipperton, does it fucking matter? There's going to be five more guys lining up with the exact same politics to take.

job. I think that's probably the attitude the movie has and they're also just like, also that's not real justice. Real justice is the boss allowing about 150 people to go up in 24 hours. But I don't want to lose how amazing it is that

Henrickson is doing either video editing or something with this thing. I got no idea. I will sentence him to death. Sentence him to death. He's rewinding. Death. Dale. Dead. Dead. Dale. Dead. Dale. You know

things are getting stressful at work when you were just really like OCD rewinding something and just laughing maniacally at the television. You need a vacation. You need a vacation. That's how I was watching this movie. This is why he needs

his serene moments in his very wet, candle-lit bisexual lighting biker warehouse. It's the wetest hideout. I've never seen a wetter hideout in my life just like he's soaking wet and we're on the golf course golf coast Chris

I mean that's yeah makes sense I almost said golf course but that would have been wrong I mean maybe they'll take one eventually that'd be cool oh my god imagine them killing a bunch of people on a golf course sort of like the start of ninja three but there hell yeah oh shit excellent open bikers versus golfers versus ninjas absolutely

I love that there's this other character who's played by Max Dad from Always Sunny called AWOL. Yes. A small biography of him. He's a Gulf War deserter, which is an amazing concept. What's the matter, dude? You couldn't wait fucking 37 days. And he's got connections in the military still.

So later in the film, he just buys a military helicopter from the military. And that's the point where the movie's like, yep, let's get through the scene pretty fast. Nobody ask any questions about this. Yes, he's bribing another fellow army ranger for a helicopter. Don't worry about it. I need to get back to soaking wet chains because chains coming down. So while this is a, we're ignoring it because it doesn't matter. There's a relationship budding between Nancy and Boz supposedly.

Sort of. In the most in the most perfect pristine of circumstances, Chris Cabin, that relationship is topping out at a failed hand job that's not any true love or anything no it is not because you know what true love is it's ice and chains I have never seen sexual tension like

not since top gun have I seen sexual tension like this between two men while they're having this conversation and it is really him like ice being like I do not trust boss I do we need to get rid of him Stone needs to go tomorrow

and fucking changed. Lance Henriksen says something. I posted about this earlier. Says something I don't think has ever been said in the history of the human language. I'm going to, if I want to, I'll milk him at a gourd. Milk him to a gourd. Wouldn't you milk him into a gourd by milking him? So you milk his dick so much that he like compresses small.

Turns into a squash. And then what happens? It is a really fucking unhinged thing to say. Yeah. And then he'll chop his arms and legs off, weld him into a steel tank and drop him in the

bayou. You can leave it at the gourd brother. You already did it. You fucking turned him into a squash. You got him, baby. He does have very specific threats. Earlier, he threatens, I think, stone with peeling his skin with a knife blade that he's dipped in shit. Yeah.

Because he gets bored. I think it's just because, like, you've got that much power. I mean, we'll see what he does in a couple of minutes, what he tries to pull off here. You have that much power. All you're doing all day is taking just immense amount of drugs. Yes. And just finding new ways to kill people, I assume. To keep up the death call thing.

But Hendrickson is a poet. Like, he is chewing it. And he is, you know, he wants you to know that he has thought of very creative ways that he is going to fuck you up. I just about you has like a recipe box with them all in there and he's just like Oh damn

You better not put that armour down on the street And he's also And he's also revving the motorcycle In the middle of the room Right Is that when he's doing that? Yeah

And he's like I don't like what I'm hearing brother Well that's see this is again Josh you're using the wrong nomenclature It wasn't a room at all It's a warehouse Oh yeah So that makes more sense

Room is a bit constrictive Yeah The thing that sort of like, it's the straw that breaks the camel's back, I know with guts specifically, but maybe some other people on the biker gang. I love it. This weird thing where like the gang, you know, all the Brotherhood approaches one of these like National Guard roadblocks or whatever. And Lance Henriksen just this fucking got like they're giving this dude shit and this like old, you know, one week and a month, two weeks a year, motherfucker is just like, please let us do our jabs. and then cut to these dudes in these fucking wooden crates

and William Forsy or a chain himself Henriksen just murders these dudes straight up and then this is guts like you know when I joined this murderous biker gang you know I thought sure

we'd be dealing drugs we'd be fucking with cops worshipping the furor you know probably a lot of sexual assault but shooting these dudes in a wooden crate is fringed too far And it's fucked up. That's right here because like if you just shot them on the street when they first confronted

you, fine. But like putting them in a wooden box and then shooting them and then trying to use that wooden box to ship them to the DA that's running for governor as a campaign contribution. That's funny, but like you're ruining the boxes. There's elaborate of steps being taken. Yes. Definitely taking it to some extremes. But that box might fall apart in transit is my point.

You're shooting it full of just shoot them and put them in the box. Well, no, but Eric, I think it's different. think what Guts problem here is he likes if he wants to catch, he wants wild caught corpses. He doesn't want farm corpses. He needs to be out there in the wild and find them. Free range. Yeah, you don't want

living in confinement. Yeah, he prefers his murder victims like, you know, salmon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A nice way to hunt for salmon, Chris Cabin. It's just not as fresh the other way, you know, this way. It tastes different. This scene ends with Guts hand

going inside a motorcycle spoke. Which you kind of never see the... Like, he's just got it wrapped up the rest of the movie. I kind of want to see that meat a little bit. A finger fly. Apparently this was... I don't know if this is true. They said something about like NC17 was the original rating and they cut it back.

I totally buy it. Maybe a finger flew off or something. I don't know. I would have... I would have ponied up for the NC17. Yeah, there are some scenes where you see very explicit violence and other ones where it feels like they cut away too soon. Like, you can tell that this feels like I'm going to be that was trimmed in that way. It's just so fucked up because it's like, I don't know, put some jelly.

filled hot dogs in those spokes and fucking film it. I'm totally here for it. So what you would call it there is Forsythe Ice is like trailing he takes Bosworth takes Nancy out to lunch we find out that she had a rough life

great and then I mean it's just the most pat thing she's like oh my step bother yada yada they don't care about the one like female character for sure no no not at all so and he winds up right afterwards

going and meeting Sam McMurray but uh oh ice has followed him there and then like it's this like mad dash to uh oh if ice gets back to the base

and tells everybody I'm totally fucked I gotta get rid of him and it's a great chase scene there's a tunnel involved there is my favorite scene in the movie is there's this nice driver

there's two motorcycles on other side it's ice and Bosworth and he's like what the hell's going on here and we'll Liam Forsyth is, goes to him, was like, hey, and he stabs this dude in the arm. And he's like, what the fuck?

But it's because he knows the dude will jerk the wheel into the boss, which is a fucking incredible strategic move here. He's three moves ahead always. It's so awesome. You get shit here. There's like a machine gun that just fucking blows up this cop car and a cop goes flying. A lot of solid dummy work in this movie.

Absolutely. Oh, man. But then finally fucking, they get out of the top. tunnel and a little like loop-de-loop like Baz like fakes him out on something and fucking ice gets burned to a crisp

it like just the the motorcycle goes into the car and a mushroom cloud comes out yeah and it is a full profile angle of a head-on collision and it is dummy and it is like dummy work as good I'd say I think Andrew you brought up

I think the original Mad Max I thought about that part where his eyes pop out and he gets one over by a truck. Like that's what this moment in terms of the dummy work and how huge I think that explosion goes off before the collision happens. They want this moment

to be as big as possible. It's the Simpsons gag. It's literally like the leaf is flowing down onto the school bus that it explodes. You know what I mean? Like we don't care about the physics. We want this huge explosion. I'm with you. God bless. Chains Chains should be called Mendoza.

That's really what we're getting at here. And the motorcycle chase itself, and I'm, you know, I'm sure someone's going to say there's better ones out there, sure. But I was watching the chase part of this with these motorcycles. I was like, this is like the fucking French connection of motorcycle chases. Of cheap motorcycle chases, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it is just some wild ass actual dudes on motorcycles. And, you know, it's shit like this that it's like, you know, this is, you're making this movie in 1990. You got no fucking money.

this thing looks way better than the vast majority of fucking Marvel movies that are coming out. Oh yeah, yeah. Because you take the computers right out of the equation and it's incredible.

That's all. His stunt driving background definitely comes into play in that scene specifically because it's just like, and I think that's why he actually even got Henriksen because I think I read

that he was the driver for close encounters of the third kind. Like he was a stunt driver before he was a coordinator and he was doing all of those kinds of stunts. So like,

yeah, Baxley really brings it. If there's a motorcycle chase, and they are, like, weaving in and out of real cars, and you're like, holy shit. It feels dangerous before the Mad Max level head on collision shit is happening. So, Baxley drove the UFO.

Yeah. You will forget time and again that Lance Hendrickson is in close encounters of the third kind, by the way. It's like just sexy, sexy bodyguard in the background or whatever. Yeah, I had already forgot that. You're at the big, you know,

Truffaut is doing the whole thing, and you're like, is that fucking Lance Hendrickson talking with Francoe? Yes, it is. Awesome. Well, you're about to see some of Lance Hendrickson's best fucking playing ever, some of the best acting ever. Because

fucking his beautiful ice is dead. Ice was like burned up in this. Viking Viking funeral, dude, for ice. On set, like set upon the motorcycle. On the iron horse, dude. Riding it to hell. They stole this corpse. They brought it back. And they

not his car too. Somehow it survived the fucking crash. Now this is the thing. This is the thing. You know, all the economical editing, all the Slim Trim storytelling, love it. Yeah. I need to see them getting their hands on William Forsyth's course. I absolutely need that scene. A bad boys two-esque, you know, romp to get him from the morgue. That's fine. I can do it. They keep dropping it on the way back. But it's fine. You get some coffin flops in.

there. They fucking grip him. They glue him into his own motorcycle. Rigoboritis is setting in. This thing stinks. He's got a cigar in his mouth. Yeah, kind of like psychomania. Good another biker movie.

We did an episode on that a thousand years ago as well. Oh, yeah. But episode five, look out below. His speech is like he was the toughest fucking son of a bitch I ever met. He was also a piece of garbage. If you had, if you like tipped at a bar, he would take the tip back. use it for his own purposes.

He was a real piece of shit. Yeah. He's like a brother to me. Giant, fiery, low angle crane shot of him just like looking straight into you and he's being like, he was cold. So let's send him to Valhalla.

And all the bikers just start shooting the guns in the air and everything. Kind of amazing. The other movie I watched today was the 1982 Conan the Barbarian. Also just chalkful of Viking funerals. It was a real Viking

Funeral Tuesday for this guy. It's good to burn bodies. I think so. I mean, and I mean, this is like the emotion underlying at all. I mean, this is like his closest friend and brother and this is how you know, this is when Chains, I think, loses

it. And I think this is why he double-crossed his boss in the third act. I think this really is it. His heart is broken. Do you think anyone's shedding a tear at ICE's funeral out of curiosity? Just someone in the back of those fucking beautiful? Definitely, dude. He was a huge part of the organization, you know? Oh, yeah.

He was the only guy who could shoot a can off someone's head with an oozy and not actually hit them. Last Christmas, he shoved my mother down the stairs. That guy is amazing. I love that guy. I love him so much. I'm going to shoot at this gun in the sky. I don't care for how long. I remember last Valentine's Day, he murdered my ex-wife.

I don't know why, but I invited him to my. at grandpa's funeral and he stole the watch from his body and I I just, I loved him so much for that. For that specifically. He's the one that came up with the idea I'm shooting those priests. I love him so much.

I'm fucking miss him. He was trouble, he was troubles a true sire, like the one who was promised. Hell yeah. Oh, also it kind of doesn't mean anything, but it sort of does because there's this

crooked like lady highway patrol person. Sure. Oh, right. Who chain calls at one point to be like, hey, run this name and see what's up. So she calls back and is like, oh, and I don't know why in the shit the FBI would like do this. But she's like, oh, I was able to like crack some mainframe. I got access to whatever database. And this guy that you know is Stone is also this other dude. So yeah, he's probably a cop. I like, I like his excuse for it, the boss here, because he's like, so I got a lot of names. Yeah. All right.

Yep. Which is kind of a point. Like criminals have a lot of names. Sure. You know, for instance, I have different ones. Obviously, my real name doesn't have two Zs in it. Oh, you know. But it's weird, though, because, you know, this is Nancy.

And she's like, all right, boss, look me straight in the eye and tell me you're not a cop. And like, again, I guess this is just economical story telling. he takes two seconds to try to do it and then he's like, yeah, you're right, I'm a cop. Well, he doesn't sarcastically? Because, I mean, legally you have to, if somebody asks, you know, that's the thing we all know. That's a fake thing, first of all.

Oh, is it really? Real police officer. Yeah, that whole, if you're a cop, you have to tell me, that's fake. But also, I didn't read, that's interesting. I didn't read it as sarcasm. I thought he just straight up told her and I just had to pause it because I was laughing so much. She definitely doesn't register that that's what,

like, that he was not saying that serious. even though he as an actor I think just said the line but also he took off the tiny sunglasses before he said it to know that look I'm I'm for real about these little blue things these like

dude they are Gary Oldman and Dracula glasses they are you're right dude those are fantastic and the ones that Lance Henriksen is using when the final interaction between boss and him he has these sunglasses that make no sense

there's 17 shapes in one glass So yeah This is this is around where the buzz Convinces the FBI to let them do this bus So they can get both the brotherhood Biker gang and the mafia here And that's where we get this dude Martinez Who is like another undercover dude

Who's pretending to be the delivery driver This truck driver or whatever Right yeah And they put up this whole It's like a little it's like a little drug deal pageant that these guys put on because he's like they're nowhere near like the rest of the bikers but they're still giving dialogue as if they could be overheard and he's like hey man uh can i talk to you for a second like the cut i'm getting yeah it only works out to be less than 10

percent that's kind of fucked up and i'm like Lance henrickson can't hear any of this you guys should be talking about like all right man so now you got the bulletproof vest on right martinez yeah definitely all right now i'm going to shoot you in the chest and we're going to pretend that i murdered you right yeah okay here we go we're going to do it. You ready, man? You ready? It's going to hurt a little bit, but not a lot. All right, yeah, let's do it. But like, it's this full on scene and the movie's trying to play the audience. And it's like, no, no, no, no. I know the boss. I know that Martinez has to be in on it. What are you doing? Well, also, you have to imagine that like he has to, boss has to be ready to shoot real

quick because he knows chains. And if you have Lance Hendrickson around, you can't guarantee a body shot. Yeah, that's a head shot. Lance Hendrickson might just blow your fucking head off. and then that's it. Right. But, you know, it's all over for Martinez. But here's the thing. I've eaten a lot of pizza. I can tell if they're, you know, you put a slice in front of me. It's not exactly like, oh, is that like fake cheese or is that not real, not real sauce? Is that like, it's gluten free.

I can tell about that cauliflower crust. Exactly. Oh. Oh. Oh. And that's a fucking war crime anyway. Similarly, Lance Henriksen would be like, that guy's not dead. I've killed so many people. No, his lips would be.

bluer. No, his lips been blue already. He would just notice it immediately. He's just sniffing the air. He's like, that's not real blood. No, that's not. No. You're totally right, Steve. And that's why I thought this was going to happen. I was waiting for it. The boss, right? He just gives like a gentle little kick to Martinez and he falls in the water. And then like, you'd see Martinez swim up under the dock and he's got a little snorkel. Because you're right. I mean, there's no fucking blood. it's a bulletproof vest.

There was a little, I thought. He's like, Boss, you're not in until that man is a gourd. I'm sorry. In this biker gang, we turn enemies into gorge. But I guess the prediction was like, listen, this biker gang

is going to kill this guy no matter what. We have to stage this thing to make it seem real. Yeah, you're going to have to use a deep dark alchemy to turn him into a gourd of something. That's just how that's going to be.

Let me ask you something there, Stone. Are you ready to milk a man? man, are you ready to milk him into a gourd? Because if you're not ready to do that, you're not ready to be part of the brotherhood, brother. I'm not welding him into a box and throwing him into the bayou unless he's a gourd. I'll tell you that much. You better bring a gourd here.

You got to check and see if he shit himself because I'll get my blade out. All right, Stone, did you bring your eye of newt to this drug deal? Because otherwise you are not going to be able to cast a spell to turn him into a gourd. I have good news. We're going to be putting half of our money.

I have hired jigsaw to make us new wonderful designs to kill everybody that we decide we want to kill. Well, if you really need to turn someone to a gourd fast, you need a tail of a lizard. You don't have one of those, do you? It'd be cool if the pet came back somehow. It's kind of surprising that it's only the ones. Right. Yeah. Little fella.

You'd think you could throw it on someone and it starts biting them or something. Hell yeah. Although this thing looks pretty docile. I don't know. Yeah. I'm not a fucking, you know, if it gets bruised enough, maybe, you know. Lizard person or whatever. So, um, the mafia is supposed to meet them at a certain location.

That's when the FBI is going to get them. But, uh-oh, Henriksen's two steps ahead. They go somewhere else. And, uh, basically they fuck over, uh, Bosworth. Bosworth's like, well, that stinks. I'm just going to get on my bike then. Goodbye, everyone. I'll be, I might be back later.

I'm still part of the gang doll. I, you know, maybe you'll, maybe you'll, maybe you'll change your mind. Maybe you'll, maybe you'll feel different about it tomorrow. Maybe. Maybe you'll give me more money tomorrow, huh? Maybe. But in another quick cleanup with this screenplay, like, you know, we're clickety clack right in this movie. And it's like, uh-oh. We got like 50 fucking barrels of PCP. What are we going to do about that? Oh, we got an idea to fix this real quick. Because Boz fucking rolls up on the truck filled with all the drugs. That's amazing. Shoots the hydraulic cables from the tractor to the trailer.

and this trailer just goes flying into a gas station and explodes one incredible two that's the end of the drug problem that's at least one innocent bystander dead probably oh definitely old Mac working at the gas station yes

I mean so we also while this is all happening we've been hearing hushed things about D-Day and oh yeah this is the funniest thing is they're like we have to crack the whip

that might have something to do with a guy named Whipperton maybe you don't really know what the whip is though until I tell you 20 minutes before this movie ends and they all love bragging about it he's like no no no no I'm going to crack

the whip not you well Josh as you may have heard down here in the US of A last year we had a thing on January 6th and all those guys and gals were fucking idiotically gabbing everywhere

they could, including gab about all their fucking dumb ideas and all their fucking seditious nonsense. So I totally buy it that these people will be talking about it left and right. You're stoked for it. The revolution's here. Here it goes. You're going to be a god in the new regime,

right, everyone? That's right. 30 virgins. So really quickly Henriksen reveals that he knows what's up by revealing the Bolivian guy that was supposedly executed. He comes back. Supposedly deported. We wanted to execute. Not before hinting that it was Nancy who did it and really

emphasizing betrayal is a bitch and then he looks looks her in the face and he goes, did you hear that? A bitch. And you put three moments before executing her in the head, mind you as well. Like it's worthless. For this movie you really, I really didn't think. also a brief scene of like, you know, yeah, I'm going to take you with me once we figure this

all out. And just for her to get a shot right in the forehead and we move on and boss doesn't give a fuck. He's like, okay. It's a little upset. A little upset. But this is an interesting turn for Stone Cold, right? Because in other movies, right, it's like I fucking freed this lady. I'm the night in shining armor. Now we're going to go off to another part of Swamp Fuck Florida and have a family together and it's going to be real gross and whatnot. But this movie is like, no, no, no, no. She's not cool with the fact that he's a cop. She's like, are you fucking kidding me?

You're a cop. This disgusting. She's irredeemable. I'm the fucking brotherhood member to the core. I'm one of their old ladies, you know. I suck my way to the top and whatnot. That's true. Don't we all. Everybody sucks somebody.

Isn't that right, Josh? Yeah. Just tell me what you want me to? fuck, dude, absolutely. Well, because it does, it does look like when he shoots her, like, you could almost see it as, looks like it wings her. Like, you could kind of tell they were like,

they were like, okay, later we'll decide if she's coming back or not. And they're just like, nope, no thank you. It is a, we'll see what the scar in the hospital during the closing moments. Like, we'll see what the test audience has to say about your survival. And apparently this woman was just booed and they left her dead.

And then we're going to get the effects people from Freaked to work on you. Wow. Hell yeah. Stone Cold could visit her in the hospital and be like well at least your vagina works. Let's get to it. I brought you a dominoes it's vegetable because you're a lady

and a bottle of Smyranoff as well because you're a lady. I brought my friend gut along a little song. When Nancy is executed by chains by the way Henriksen has a great line. This is where he also like lets the

Boz know that he is undercover, he goes, no, Joe Huff, I'm going to break your heart and just fucking murders her. It's pretty great line. It's awesome. It's kind of a Russian roulette thing because he puts three bullets in, he spins, he shoots the Bolivian guy,

then he shoots her, and then he does try to shoot Bosworth, but it's click, he's like, well, I guess you're going to live to see tomorrow, Mr. Huff. And then everyone laughs. And now it's like a Batman thing where he's in a helicopter, chained up Max's dad from Always Sunny is flying it and they're going to

strap a bomb to him and throw him off. Also like, by the way, this dude is built like Brian fucking Bosworth. There needs to be more dudes in this fucking helicopter if you're going to do this thing. Or he needs to be dead. Like, that's just it. What I would do if I kidnapped any kind of beef kick,

you shoot him in the arms and the legs. Thank you. Just so it's a little less mobile. You're throwing no punches. You're delivering approximately zero kicks. Yep. Hell yeah. Eric, first you have to milk him to a gourd, and then you can shoot his arms and legs, and then you can put him in the thing. And this is the hardest thing also I have trying to explain to people, which is that a $20 million

movie where they blew $5 million on scenes that never make it into the movie has probably one of the biggest 15-minute climaxes of any action movie of its era for seemingly no reason. Yes. And it's amazing. And every time I'm like, for real. I'm not joking you. That's what, like, the fine, like, they have a real helicopter

flying at low levels through streets right by people. Yeah, dude, this is fucking movie-making, man. Right? Like, Buster Keaton fucking dropped a house front on himself. Here we are in this ridiculous action movie flying a helicopter down the street. Now I want to see Buster Keaton shooting up a courthouse.

Well, that's, that's, right before he did that, he looked at his director and he's like, I'm going to push the Buster button right now. You dropped this fucking house We're pushing the buster button, motherfucker! Let's do it! Let's fucking do it! Hell yeah. More people should do.

Yeah, you have Baws being strapped with a bomb inside this low-flying helicopter, spraying brake fluid into their faces and kicking a dude out with the bomb on him. Mid-dummy fall out of the helicopter, it explodes in a wide, long-lens shot where you can see Baz is in the helicopter.

Some dummy just exploded right next to it. it's insane. Glory. Something that I was noticing this time, the second time I watched it. And yes, Josh, this last 15 minutes is tremendous. Lance Hendr's dresses up like a priest.

We'll go beat by beat through it. But like the idea in most action movies, you have to save the district attorney because that's what the point of the thing was. You know what I mean? Well, either that or you save the girl or you save the hostages. And it's worth noting up front. he doesn't, none of that. He saves no one.

Everyone fucking dies. It's amazing. You know who he saved? Hang on a second. You know who he saves? Spoiler alert. He saves Lance Henrickson is the only one left alive at the end of all these shenanigans. Because it's like die hard like, you know, like Ellis gets killed, but like everyone else pretty much makes it.

You know what? Bruce Willis, if everyone dies including his wife and then he's just like, you be Kai-A, motherfucker. you'd be like, well, that's an odd turn for that film. But all that happens, yippy Kaye, motherfucker. And then he doesn't drop Alan Rickman out the window. He surrenders him to authorities. Well, to be fair to this

movie, the, you know, what is his name? Sam McMurray does end up shooting Lance Hendrickson. But there is that attempt, because he's a cop and he's the good guy. He has to bring someone in to answer for these crimes. Sure. The one thing, I mean, the way you know that

chains has so much power over all these people is that thing back with the Bolivia guy happens like the roulette thing and he's like he shoots boss it doesn't go off and then he's like well I guess we're going to let him go and then nobody's like ah boss

can we just kill him I mean like it seems like a huge fucking I don't know why we can just throw a corpse in with the bomb you know why are we doing this? Because he's a man of honor man and it's like look you beat that round of Russian roulette dude you live to see another day

And Nixon is going to go, look, look, look, look, look. We'll let him live and he won't stop us. I guarantee you he won't stop us. We will kill everyone in that building. Because that's, so like, he comes in as a priest. Haircut too. Hair cut. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he trims down. He's looking like real Ed's Hendricks again. And he, like, he gets metal detected. But like, oh, it's my rosary. And it's like, dude, you. you've got to pat this guy down. Like, dude, that's a Halloween costume. Let's steal rosary are you carrying.

What is going on here? It's 91. You could probably, you know, bring that gun onto an airplane at this point. It's true. So, by the way, crooked criminal non-sex crime related now. Sure. Crooked criminal priests. We got Lance Henriksen in this

movie, Nick Cage in the beginning of face off. Oh, yeah. I love these crooked motherfuckers. The priest as a disguise for some sort of nefarious character? Yeah, that's the Catholic church. Yeah, no, I said without the fucking dude. Well, they have other crimes.

They're hoarding gold and shit. Yeah, they're fun and shit. They're fine. They stole so much of my grandparents' money, dude. Worse than when my grandfather got into the fucking credit card scam with the people fishing on the phone. Oh, my God. Really? Oh, yeah.

That's sort of how, what was it? Shinto Abbey went down for a similar reason, right? The Mooney's. Yeah, the Mooney's were milking. I'm trying. You got to watch that calendar, man. You need two more months on the shit so Abbey. I don't know. I was looking at it up today. Well, I mean, look at it this way, dude, probably the most successful assassination. Oh, yeah. Sure. In the last 75 years. Sure. Yeah. And most people in Japan, from why I could tell, are kind of okay with it. That's what I'm talking about.

They were like, oh, wait a second. The government was like, oh, fuck, they killed our ex prime minister. Maybe we should rethink our relationship with that fucking church. And they did. That guy did it. I mean, it sucks that Shenzhou Abe had to perish, but that guy did it. But so the, the court has packed asses to ankles with people and this district attorney and this attorney makes his case. And they, the, the, the, whatever, the, the Supreme Court of Mississippi is like, yeah, we're going to fucking execute him. 45 years without parole, isn't it enough?

We will now execute this dude. Gavle, Gavle, Gavle, and Henriksen goes apeshit and starts annihilating everyone. And the way he gets the party started is fucking poetic justice, dude, because who's the first to go with a machine gun all the way through his back is fucking Martinez? Yes. Because that idiot shows up in the courtroom, what are you fucking doing? Dumbass. What are you doing, you stupid idiot Martinez? And he says something like, this is going to hurt one last time or something.

and he just fucking annihilates him. It's like 15 shots at close range with a machine gun. In the back, the chest, the squib chest, just... It's like the fucking Predator. I mean, it's incredible. Worth noting, by the way, Baxley did all of the stunt coordinating for Predator. That makes so much sense. Hell yeah.

Motorcycles go into the courtroom. They're throwing shotguns to all their guys. and they are just destroying this courthouse. And you know what, Brian Bosworth? You probably should have got them at racketeering. That's where I'm at here. Maybe we should have got them three weeks ago. I see your point, Steve.

The mafia could have lived to fight another day. We did not need to fly this close to the sun. We'll say also the entire, as it appears, Mississippi Supreme Court wiped out. It's like you're fucking watching Mars attacks. I mean, definitely, go down. There is a POV shot down lens of his gun where it's attached, the camera's attached to it, while he's just rotating and hitting as many members of the legislature as possible. And I'm just cheering.

Wild. I'm just cheering in my thing. Go, Lance. Go do it, buddy. Mr. Stone Cold has quite a stunt here where he jumps out of the helicopter through, like, a glass ceiling. falls down, gets up onto a marble floor, like a hundred feet, and instantly gets up

against the jump on a guy who is standing in the room with the gun and dispatches him. Knees and ankles of steel, this guy. This thing, I would be destroyed. I'd be a puddle if I landed from this ice. You'd be a gourd, dude. You'd probably start doing it. I would become, I would be

an instant milked gourd. Yes. And then we could finally throw you to fucking lay, Chris. Unfortunately, we also get a, we also get a brief glimpse into Henrickson's childhood, which is another one of the probably best lines

in the film. Who does he shoot in this moment? I think it's Whipperton. It is. It is my Wiverton. Oh, yes. It's the death blow.

And he's like, he's like, look, Wiverton, at a moment like this, I think of my father's last words. And he goes, you know, what were those? And he goes,

don't son, that gun is loaded. Yep. And just annihilates him. Executes this dude. And if the trivia is to be believed on IMDB, of course, Lance Henrickson

wrote all his own dialogue personally. Poet. As Josh said, a poet. I just... Yeah. Oh, yeah. I do also love the Lance Henriksen line. Like, when shit goes tits up, they're all communicating on a radio, you know, frequency of walkie-talkies or whatever. He gets on the

walkie talk and he goes, everybody bail, you're on your own. Yeah, like tosses it and that's the end of it. Like, fuck you, the brotherhood. Well, that's how you know. They are way more coordinated than whatever happened. I January 6th because he's like, once he finds out that the helicopter is no longer in play, he's like, cut it, we got to go. Like he's just, it's no, like, we're going out hard. He's like,

we got to go. They could have used a helicopter that day. I love bikers. They're tough guys. They turn people into gourds. Someday I'll figure out what a gourd is. I actually, I had it also a rope that led me down into the Oval Office. I just I had them put it in. I thought it was a nice touch. That fucking pig can't climb a rope, man. What are you kidding? Tiffany, you're a gourd,

right? You kind of look gourd-esque. Right? Yeah, gourds. That's what you call a girl I don't want to have sex with. You know what Tiffany? You kind of look like another Lance Hendrickson movie Pumpkinhead. All right. That's him saying. Not me.

Oh, yeah, Tim. I got to that. Well, also, I will say, if you replace, if it's that Simpson's called open where they're watching the special people who look like things, if you replace that guy who's with the jackal anandard with Tiffany Trump, it's there. It's there. It's there. This is when gut meets his unfortunate end.

Oh, sure. By the way, anyone noticed this is the dude from Terminator 2, the biker with the cigar. Yes. The older biker, that that's the guy with the gun. Is gut? No, no, no. What's the other, the guy who's like, he's like, anyone comes here closer. I'll fucking kill everybody.

Blah, blah, blah. Like, he's what going, Craig, going to hell tonight. Oh, yeah. Again, gut is in the room. Again, like, you were in, you're hearing all these gun blasts. He's like, dude, we're going too far. I'm like, gut, you really should have quit months ago. Totally, dude, gut. Here's the move, man. Go find some fucking assassinated, court appointed, whatever.

Put that dude's suit on and walk right now. You're still, you still, you still trespassed in the Capitol. you ran through the halls. I'm sorry, God. You should have just stayed home. You should have just polished the dirt and like then waited for all of them to come back. But man, this is, so this is this dude mud. So you're saying mudfish is the guy that's in Terminator's deed?

Mudbird? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's the guy that's thrown on to the griddle at the start. You know, they takes his clothes. Oh, yes. Okay. So this dude, the boss shoots this guy and this motherfucker flies out the window.

God, I think you're right, Cabin. I think Yen Wopeng, uncredited for some of these stunts here. The wirework is fabulous. It's great. Yeah. And meanwhile, like, they're cutting between shots of just, like, a full-on assault happening outside. Like, they're a motorcyclist riding into cop barriers and just flying, like, 50 feet in the air. Stone is both rocking at this point, a tactical shotgun and the magnum.

And he's taking single shots at everyone in the chest, watching them get pulled by the wires in every which direction and yeah it results in him shooting this guy through the window which they cut to a low angle shot of that stunt guy going through the windshield and hood of a car

and it's not a dummy it's the guy you can see him. It's awesome but he's got the fake beard and everything because he couldn't grow it in time right and then I love the dude who so Henriksen is on the back of this other guy's motorcycle and he's

firing wildly throughout the hallway. It's amazing. And then they come upon the Boz and this dude stops. Lance Henriksen gets off the motorcycle and it's like, go get him. And this dude fucking floors it. The Boz shoots this guy. The motorcycle goes out the window at the

end of the hall and flies directly into this helicopter. Holy fucking shit. How do more people not know about this movie? How do I not know about it till today? My God. I feel like such a fucking failure. My life has been fucking dog shit. Thanks for Wait until I was almost fucking 40 years old before I saw this movie.

That's unacceptable. And this is their show. And you forget about the helicopter is the best part. Because the helicopter is gone. Like, Boz, we forget this part. Like, Boss is fighting the guys in the helicopter and just fucks with the driver until the driver nearly runs into the capital building and nearly hits all these people in cop cars like on the road on the way there. and he dives from the helicopter

through the glass onto the marble floor. That's the last we see of the helicopter until you get what looks like a direct head-to-head showdown dual moment. Like it is like a Western. These guys are about to, you know, something big's going to happen here. And no, he just shoots him off the motorcycle.

The motorcycle flies through that window and you're like, oh, another window, great. And then, yeah, the motorcycle is just, you know, or the helicopter, you're like, okay, they just keep every detail, they just keep escalating it as much as they can. And you see Max Dad, this AWOL guy, just screaming as this fucking motorcycle is coming towards the helicopter. Oh, man. Incredible. It's incredible. It really is. It's beautiful. My God.

The showdown between them is so amazing because it's a double bit where. Baas and Henrickson. So the thing we were just talking about with the, because he has a shotgun and the guy's got like a bike and like Lance Hendrickson's like, go get him. And he's like, He's got a gun. Like, you can just shoot me right off the thing. It's going to take me a little while to drive over there. You know, it's not like, I don't got an instantaneous. Okay, I'm going to die.

That's fine. I'm just going to die now, I guess. You know, boss, there's plenty of time me driving down this long hallway for this trying to pull out a gun and shoot me. It looks like we might be on the losing side of this one, chains my commander. Could we maybe not do this? The showdown between Hendrickson and Bosworth. Henrickson hits every single marble step and you feel it every time.

Dude, he is doing his best fucking Jack Nicholson impression right here, falling down these stairs. Oh, my God. It's awesome. And you're seeing the stuntman. You're totally right, Steve. There's the shot. It's like low angle sort of looking up at the staircase and you see the stunt guy do at least three flips in the one shot.

And every single time, the back of his head is fucking hitting these marble stairs. These guys aren't paid enough. I guarantee it. No, no way. not the time at least yeah and I mean like he just you know he arrests him and imagine the future chains

because you're not in it and then we get the empty gun chamber just you know mirroring the previous scene right set up and pay off baby oh hell yeah great fucking screenplay here and so he's getting arrested and whatnot and then he goes for this cops

this Hendrickson goes for this cop's gun and he's about to kill the boss and all of a sudden like it's the fucking end of a certain movie called blank hard the cop who's been a little bit of a fucking weaner the whole movie is the one who murders

the bad guy at the end of years an amazing POV shot of Henrickson's corpse flipping to the bottom floor from his eyes as a camera is flipping you see the ceiling of the capital yes and then cut to the dummy shot

of his corpse actually just like landing on the floor and everything so that's the funniest part is they give you the moment where the boss gets to be you know morally upstanding quote on quote where he gets to be like I'm not just going to point blank execute this dude like he does to other people but you still get the insanely over the top gratuitous you know he his corpse gets to just flip in and you get the live camera point of view of his corpse flipping so I I watch this movie again a couple years ago couple sheets of the wind maybe two to three I didn't remember there's the Michael Clayton ending coming up dude

I had no idea that they do a full on Michael Clayton at the end of this movie where Bosworth just walks out like thinking about what he's done and all this stuff but he doesn't get to a cab exactly but you stay with him as the credits roll and it's beautiful

it's so awesome and he is walking out to Sam McMurray is that name? Playing Lance the FBI agent because Lance repeats a line to the Bos gives him at one point. The boss is like ready to get into gear or whatever and he goes, time to turn

it on. So the end of the movie, after he kills that guy, he looks at the dude from fucking Jason goes to hell and he's like, time to turn it on. Q the fucking turdiest fart rock guitar. And that's what he walks

out with through these credits and just through it was amazing. I'm watching and I was like, oh, he's still walking. Oh, he's still walking. I just want, give me a hundred dollars worth. and just sits, you know, collapses into a cab and just goes. Just walk. Just walk.

Yeah, well, and the best part, too, is he is just drenched in blood and sweat. He's heroically descending these pristine white capital steps. And as he gets further and further away, obviously, you can see more and more of what just happened outside that Capitol building. And people are either, one, like, looking at him in awe, like, wow, that's the guy who just destroyed this entire city.

Oh, amazing. And Boz, yeah, boss is like, he's just got like the leather vest on, right? So he's like full shirtless and everything.

Yeah, just, he's dressed like a biker. He's, some officer should take him down. Like, oh, we missed one.

You know what I mean? Like, how do you know? There should be at least that moment. Yeah. Yeah, no, exactly.

Someone hassles him or something. Because you turn around, he's just walking across the lawn and it would be like, Hey, there's none of one of them. He's casually walking away.

He looks very contemplated. I mean, he's an Alabama cop in Mississippi. No one knows who the fuck he is. Absolutely. Oh, man. Just incredible. What a fucking movie. That's the movie.

That's Stone Cold. Incredible. Fucking shit. Incredible. We love the movie. Hell yeah. Do we applaud? Do we applaud?

We do. This is going to be a pause. Today, I do. Thank you, movie. You know what, it's season 13. We're a Who cares? Stone Cold, whatever.

But yeah, that is the motion picture, Stone Cold. Of course, Josh, we'll throw it to you as our esteemed guest this week on the program. Final thoughts and other maybe Boz recommendations if you've dabbled in the rest of his filmography? No, honestly, I can't say that I've seen much boss other than I can recommend, honestly, just going through some interviews and watching the documentary on him because he is one hell of a character to just watch talk about his. And I think it's a huge appeal of this. film too. He was just a guy who saw himself as an entertainer. And he will say that. In every interview, you find him in the 80s and 90s, he would just say stupid shit because he was like, that's great TV. And eventually he made a really cogent argument in his like memoir that college

football broadcasting should pay players more. He's like, I brought so many eyes to their channels by just saying the most ridiculous shit I could possibly think of on the day. And that was how he viewed his career that I think one interviewer even asked him straight up like you know did you ever in college like do any acting and he was like not off the field like not Romeo and Juliet but you know I did

my hair I wore the craziest outfits I could think of he even sold his own hate shirts so the people who hated him were paying buying them off his website Oh beautiful that's amazing like this was just his persona and in this film you can I think see him carrying himself like he's already a megastar

he knows how to play to the camera he has an absolute blast with it. And who knows, I don't get to see, I mean, he didn't get much of a career. I wish I could actually find more of his stuff even just on Blu-ray to get a feel of what the rest of his career looked like. But, you know, if this was the only thing he did, he, you know, he should be proud of himself because this is like just absolutely trashy, generic and moronic in like the best ways possible. And also tough and economical and genuinely like, well-crafted and physically rendered by Baxley in the other ways. So it's just an absolute blast

and it's one of my all-time favorite films to show people and just see reactions to every ludicrous, greasy detail to it and every scene's got something to hoot and holler at and especially, you know, again, the insanely huge, bloody, explosive, again, political massacre finale where he does not save the girl, the DA, or I don't think a single hostage, I actually think they massacre

pretty much everyone in the building and it's just a mesmerizing montage of like burning corpses and you know dudes on wires going through glass and motorcycles flying into helicopters like you have never seen dummy work and squib work

as expensive in a movie that was as cheap as this it's actually mind-blowing Steve Sadek yeah I love this movie it's my second time through actually I watched it again today I watched it two nights ago.

And I was like, I'm just going to watch it again. And I never do that for this show. You got sucked in, dude. I just sort of like, ah, you know, it's been two days. And it is such an, I'm glad I did because it does rev you up, especially you're about to talk about it. It's so experiential this movie. Like, you know what I mean?

It is, it's the act of watching it and just having your jaw to the floor. I even think after, if you, you know, you listen to this first and then you watch it, you will still be stunned by this movie. Absolutely. Just by the performances and some of the shot choices and, just the action, the way it's edited and paste, it's fantastic. A hearty recommend.

Chris Cabin. Oh, yeah. I'm going to underline everything that both Josh and Steve said. It is just a showcase for economic, as Josh said, economic filmmaking, but also like movies like this, you usually do have downtime. You are more interested in drama. And like, this is not. And like, I, that really does lighten everything up.

It makes everything pop more. there's no down moments in this movie for a second. And I do, I got to do this before and it helped me out at least to get the black hat special directors cut. If somebody knows where I can get

Kurt Wimmer's one man's justice, which is another boss title, if anybody has this, get in contact with me. DM me, my DMs are open. I need to see this thing because I'm a completist as well. So I've seen the equilibrium and I've

seen what the ultra ultraviolet. I need to finish the Wimmer canon and this is out of it. But this movie See what him and Boz cooked out. Yes, I need to see it. I need to know what it is. And MC Hammer as a drug dealer. I mean, come on. I need to see this

fucking movie. But yeah, Stone Cold, fantastic, wonderful time. Send Chris that file if you're on fucking Cara Gara or whatever that website is. You know what I mean? I got to see. I got to, I need the question answer that is in my head. Does he have parachute pants on in that movie?

Eric Sis? No, I love Chris's ending there because it's sort of like, you know, Robert Stack on Unsolved Mysteries, been like, there are still Brian Bosworth movies out there. And if you've seen one, please contact us. You know, I'm not going to add to anything that anyone's already already. We need to revive them all from the BHS trash bin of history. We really do need to do that.

But, you know, just jumping off from what everyone else already said. I think everyone has already said it very well. It's an action masterpiece. and it's a masterpiece because it only cares about action. So if all you care about is action, you'll have a good time with it. If you're looking for anything else,

you're not going to find it. But I don't care today. I love this movie. Hell yeah. I will just add, you know, our friends at Vinegar Syndrome, you know, Arrow. Hey, Arrow, you know,

you put out that fucking Sartana set. How about a Boz set? Oh, yeah. Let's get all the Boz movies together. And I know at least I'm buying it. That's one. yeah there you go so you're already making your money back no i don't know this was fucking great and you know who knows maybe the rest of the movies are you know maybe this is

an anomaly and the rest aren't great but who knows i do want to seek them out uh anyway uh total recommend josh thank you for picking this because i finally watched it uh you were the one that selected this and it's been floating around for ages i'm glad we finally did it uh sir take us home plug plug whatever you got where can folks find your work on the internet Yeah, obviously anyone can find me over a Twitter and letterboxed at the Josh L. I'm always reviewing new stuff and I'm about to gear up to go to the Toronto International Film Festival. We're going to cover a whole bunch of films there, writing a little bit in Cinemascope. I'm very excited because there is, I don't know if you guys know this, there is a John Hymn's Universal Soldier Day of Reckoning director slasher written by Kevin Williamson.

I will be at the world premiere and writing for Cinemascope magazine about it. So look forward to that. I hope it's as good as I've heard from Peter Koppelowski, who's the programmer there. He came on our show recently. I do a podcast slezoids, genre and exploitation film, double features. Obviously, we've had a roundtable who's who of guys on this show have also guessed it. I think Steve was the most recent who's been on. He brought with him.

Actually, speaking of another hugely underrated 80s action film, he brought the hidden with Kyle McLaughlin, which I hadn't, which I had never seen when he brought that on. You have watched it? Oh, my God. Oh, it's cool. It's a little eerie, too. I enjoyed that much. Ooh, I like eerie.

But the action. Yeah, and speaking of successful political assassination in action films, by the way. Oh, okay. So, yeah, so yeah, obviously slezoids do genre and exploitation double features. Anyone interested in this kind of film? And also, I pitch this film to people sometimes trying to get them to get the tone with other films we've covered things like raw deal or cobra. or uh you know like kind of in that realm and yeah we just talk every week all things genre and exploitation so if you like that kind of stuff i don't know we recently did a bunch of stuff on cyberpunk we did uh the highs and the lows we did blade runners and we did new rose hotel by abel ferrara and we did like decoder and liquid sky so oh liquid sky hell yeah yes one of the fucking best apartments in in sleazy new york uh indie cinema that's for absolutely uh well

healthy movie. Have a good time at Tiff, man. I know you're going to have a blast. I'm fucking pissed. I'm not there this year. But next year, I'm going to get back on track. But anyway, here at We Hate Movies, of course, if you want more content, patreon.com slash we hate movies. We've got a lot going on this month. We got LOTR, the Two Towers.

We're doing that on We Love Movies. Steve, we're talking about a very controversial episode of Tailspin on this episode of AD this month. Last Horizons, I think. It's the one that's been taken off Disney Plus, but you can buy it off DisneyXD, where It's a racist panda Asian scenario.

It's not really worth watching, but I think the episode we did on it was pretty super. Exactly. It was great fodder to talk about something that no one should ever watch. Eric Siska over on the Gleap Glossary. What's going on this month? The Gleap Glossary, this is our Star Wars Shide show,

if you don't know, where we talk about random Star Wars characters. And this month we're doing Weewe, very small character. And I'm kind of trying to break the show, seeing how far I could stretch the seams before it really pops. So I think we kind of get there this month. He's been to the edge there, folks. He's stretching the stretch arm strong as far as you can get it. Exactly.

If you want to hear me and Chris fight each other, that's basically the show for you. Now, sorry, fake fight because people get upset on the internet. What not. Oh, I'm sorry. It's like public. No, no, don't do that again. You got to wait for the episode.

Don't give it for free. So that's all the Patreon stuff. And then here on the main feud, of course, next Tuesday. Another episode continues as the show Rose on. Season 13 is just getting underway. Steve Sadek, what's happening next Tuesday? It's not going to be an effusive love fest like this week. You'll be

doing Shrek forever after. Back to the Shrekiverse. I've ever seen this one. I will watch it once and you'll hear that reaction. I have not that. One more, one more into the breach. I have not seen this one and I'm excited to revisit the swamp because I detest it.

I'm not. I'm not excited at all. ah yeah that's that's fucking great so until next week where we're just fucking slopping it up with shrek for a fourth fucking time i'm and jupin stephen say to eric ciska chris cabin and josh lewis take it easy