We Hate Movies - S13 Ep637: Halloween II (1981)

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

On this episode, the 2022 Halloween Spooktacular keeps rolling through Franchise Town as the gang chats about the 1981 slasher sequel, Halloween II! How delightfully unhinged is Loomis in this one? Do we see that EMT’s taint in the hot tub? How hilarious is the comedy duo of Brackett and Loomis? And was that really the best wig the costume department could find? PLUS: Loomis freaks out at a movie theater concession stand! Halloween II stars Jamie Lee Curtis, Donald Pleasance, Charles Cyphers, Jeffrey Kramer, Lance Guest, Pamela Susan Shoop, Hunter von Leer, Leo Rossi, Gloria Gifford, Tawny Moyer, Ana Alicia, Ford Rainey, Cliff Emmich, Nancy Stephens, and Dick Warlock as The Shape; directed by Rick Rosenthal. Catch the guys on the road this fall in the U.S.A. AND their Canadian debut in Toronto! Tickets on sale now! Check out the WHM Merch Store -- featuring new MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna?, Mortal Kombat & Bean Dinner designs! Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the program, the podcast picks up right where it left off. It's Halloween, too. I'm Andrew Juppen. I'm Steven Siddack, Secretly Andrew's brother. Eric Slasker-Ska. Nah, nah, nah, no, Chris Cabin. And we hate movies. I guess everyone's entitled to one good scare.

Sometimes, dead is better. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment with the wicker man. They're coming to get you, Barbara. He's sick for fucks. He's seen one too many movies.

Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies? movies don't create psychos movies make psychos more creative What's a fucking motion in the bad? What an excellent day for an exited Hello everyone, welcome to we hate movies

This is week two Of our 22 Halloween spooktacular We're talking Halloween two From 1981, directed by Rick Rosenthal And by two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two. It's okay.

to like a movie because in fact this is the second best Halloween movie period in my book. Look at this guy. Just throwing out fucking takes. In my book. And I understand the sister brother thing people don't like.

I get that. I don't really give a shit about it. I like the kills. I like the pacing. I like the runtime. You like them hot tub tinnies. I like them hot tub tinnies. I like that Dean Cundee.

You see that dudes. So it's like. the dude and the lady in the hot tub. When the dude gets out, you see that dude's hairy-ass team. I love the Italian McMahon ass, dude. You know what? Not enough Italian representation in cinema. Very true.

And what a better place than a fucking medical hot tub. Like we're at the fucking NFL locker room. It looks kind of comfortable. It looks amazing. I want one in my house. Me too. I was like, oh, you're selling me here. If you got these?

I don't know. Fuck it in a hot tub in general. It just seems like, let's just, let's fuck. and then go inside of a hot tub. Let's get some microbes from that water that's been... For your younger years, I would say, generally. Maybe an older man. Halloween, too. You know what? We're driving up the road here in Franchise Town.

Yep. Hong Kong. We should mention... Stop it over. While we're honking, let's put on that signal. Okay, yeah. If you want the episode on Halloween 1 from 1978, of course, it's on our Patreon. Patreon.com slash we hate movies. Yeah, it's just up the internet road there.

you take a left at patreon.com. You're going to hard ride at We Hate Movies. If you get to Boxetteville, you've gone too far. You're going to want to go back. You miss franchise. Oh, she'll turn this car around. You got to TV DVD land. It's a Halloween, too.

Sure. Starting off with Mr. Sandman, you know. We got ourselves a cold open here, which the first two and a half minutes of the movie are just footage from the first movie. Yes, there's, it's a. previously on Halloween for sure. I just love the idea because John Carpenter co-wrote this with Deborah

Hill and you I imagine he's like at the type part, be like well how do I start? Oh well I got the first five minutes Deb. I just we just cut the end, put it right at the start because it kicks in with her sending the kids down the street to the McKenzie's

house, which I still to this day and I think I say this on that WLM for Halloween. I don't understand why she doesn't just go with You fucking stab that dude You got out the closet The kids are okay Just go with them to the McKenzie's

You know Out of breath Yeah exactly She's like fucking Razor Ramone She just got power bombed She just needs to Take a breath for a second

Before she gets Toothpick at Michael Myers Exactly Before she could Send the ladder And get the intercontinental belt Is she just gonna take her a second She needs to hear her from the crowd

Exactly And the kids are gone So she needs a new crowd Kids go down the street The McKenzie's house I gotta take a shit Just keep on chanting as you go down the road, would you?

And then, of course, Loomis shoots him up, and then it's just like, yes, that was the boogeyman, the actual boogerman. Dude, this fucking Looney Tunes body outline on the front lawn when he comes outside, like, damn! Bud's buddy got away again! I kind of wish her, because she's like,

is it the boogie man? He's like, as a matter of fact, I think it is. I don't think we say this on the episode that we just did, but I wish you, And she was like, no shit, really? Like, you see, a classic, you serious, Clark? You know what I mean?

You get instantly fired if you were Dr. Loomis. Absolutely. I diagnosed this man, boogeyman. Dude, I have a feeling in this movie, the governor of Illinois is trying to get this dude in the electric chair. I do.

The fact, we'll get into it a lot, but the fact that the governor has to get this fucking marauding psychiatrist off the streets, A plus. The governor, I am amazed that he isn't just. Just like, okay, just don't stop coming on with the boogeyman.

He killed 12 people. Don't call him the boogeyman. He's a serial murderer. I love this guy that just like runs outside that's like, what's going on? I've been trick or treated to death tonight. Dude, this guy is my favorite line of the entire franchise. I've been trick or treated to death tonight. This is getting rid goddamn dickulous.

You don't know what death is. Asshole. Listen, buddy, I'm up to my tits and treats and treats tonight. I am sick of it. Also, what the fuck does that mean? Do you know what death is? What the fuck are you talking about, Doc? What's all that noise over there?

I am getting my dick sucked by Halloween for the last 12 hours. Well, my grandparents died. My parents, no, that's not death. You don't know what it is. Oh, that's death. That lollipop right there. That's a death. I need, you know, I want the rest of this guy's movie.

Like, what was his night about? Because also, he is definitely one of the dudes that Lori is pounding on the door, egging for her life. Like, nope, not another trick or treat tonight, motherfucker. That's exactly right. They solved the plot hole from the first movie. You got trick or treated to death and he's had enough.

Lawrence, don't answer the door. Every time you answer the door, you get egged in the crotch again. And I want you to keep some of those Fifth Avenues. I like them. You know, it's probably another fucking flaming bag. Not going to fall for that again. I'm being murdered.

Uh-huh. Keep talking, flaming bag. Please don't bring it inside the house this time. I know you want to investigate it. Every Halloween, do you know how much burning dog shit is in our house? He's going to kill the kids. Somebody's watching one of their movies, I guess. And then we get the pumpkin intro.

Pumpkin is fun. And this time, oh, there's a skull on that pumpkin. There's a skull can. I kind of dig it. I do too. I do. I prefer the poster version because the poster version, it is a pumpkin that is skull.

This is more like, it's kind of a surprise pumpkin. This one's like regular Halloween, regular Halloween. Oh, oh, it's Halloween two, motherfucker. Open up for the skull. Yeah, it's like one of those. It's going to blow up. It's like a happy Halloween card that's today where you're like, oh, it's a pumpkin and it opens up and there's a skull

inside and it's making noises. Great, another fucking trick and treat. Yeah, they did the veggie gremlin thing with like a Brian Cranston looking motherfucker. Pumpkin head. An actual. pumpkin head. Dude, one of the scariest parts of all in this movie comes right up at the front. You're watching like the, you know, the pumpkin split and a half of one not. The scary skulls coming out and then it's boom. A Dino de Laurentis Productions

company film. I was like, no, you've had many problems. Oh, Dino. I mean, the thing, what I love about this is like not only, so we begin with John Carpenter being like, well, I got the first five minutes figured out. That's no problem. How about four. minutes for credits. We can do that still because it's a fucking night. Guess what? It's beautiful and more people should do it. And it's and this it whittles this down to a nice

tight 80 which is just gorgeous. Yep, when you remove all the credits and footage from previous films yeah, it's an 80 minute movie. Because I mean like Carpenter very clear I mean clearly never gave a shit about like loved the first one obviously but like the second it was done he's like

I'm done with Halloween and well he wrote it and he's the guy that gave you that twist you hated, right? Yes. Even though he regretted it. He did. Because he was like, he just was stuck on the script and apparently like, he just needed something to happen.

So I don't know, they're related. Because you can get away with it once. You can get away with ambiguity once. Why is this person killing these people? Yes. Because they're there and he's a monster and whatever. And then the second time, if you want to keep this fucking train moving, it's like, well, all right, really now, why is he killing these people?

But also, I don't think, I think I would have. if I had the first, if I had been in the theater to see this and I just watched Halloween, I would have thought that was horrible. Yeah. But having been through all this and know that like all of them have junk shit like explanations. Yeah. And all of it. It bothers me so much less because we have Dean Kundi shooting it.

Well, so the fucking thing looks great. It does. It does look great. It's the grand tradition of a Halloween sequel. It has to undo the first one. The one previous somehow, some way. Do you think like they forced him into the,

this or something? Because I could see an alternate version being like the hospital he's killing everyone in is a psychiatric hospital. Yeah. And he's put back behind bars and he's getting out again. Apparently it was supposed to be a high-rise apartment building. That would have been much

preferred. I would have loved it because I find the thing for me and the pacing I think it's pretty good, but just something so sonorous and boring about this hospital that it kind of puts me to sleep. It's, it's A neighborhood is more exciting than a static hospital.

Absolutely. Yeah. And because it is the laziest hospital, it's like nobody is, it's a ghost hospital. Nobody is there. Nobody's doing anything. I, the thing with the apartment thing is like, you then will put yourself in danger of coming into contact with the insmith-esque horrors that are the children of J.G. Ballard who will come after you and be like,

We want the money. My daddy made a high rise. Oh, do you think so? Oh, yeah, I'm sure of it. What if it was company? And it's just Michael Myers being taken to dinner by various couples that maybe they want to get married or not. And then he just murders. Michael. Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael.

Excuse me, everybody. I want to be a murderer. Here's to the maniacs that lunch. I like that idea A lot. It would be kind of cool. A little two-step. I'd like that. Don't think John Carpenter would be the guy to write. Loomis might be the most

unhinged in all these movies in this one. He is just running around. I shot him six times. I shot him in the heart. He's got like a death boner because then he ends up killing someone else sort of we'll get there. But before we get to the hospital, before we get to that kid's death, speaking to Dean Cundee, the start of this movie

when we're walking around the neighborhood, I love this shot of you see like, Loomis in the distance talking to the cop in the car. You got like the dog barking at Michael Myers. You're moving around in his body, which I want to inhabit because I want to start stabbing. You want it to be like the device and avatar, but just for his serial killers instead.

That would be more interesting than Avatar, I think, actually. I mean, he gets to, does he kill this couple of the balona sandwich? No, you think he's a good guy. He's a good guy. No, he's not,

they don't make him horny. And that's kind of like clearly like, he's like well you know he'll put some blood on this lady's sandwich pretty rude by the way I think that was an accidental drip job he's like sorry I've been killing all night I didn't know how disgusting I was uh but I love the old this old timers this is this is actually my like primo uh vision now as a dude pushing 40 like for what I want my Halloween to be just nodding off smoking while night of the living deads on the TV and that's all it is that's that dude's Halloween, and you know what? Awesome.

And it doesn't get murdered. While you bitterly yell at your wife to make you a sandwich. I want to walk around stabbing teenagers. But I do kind of enjoy, like, the reprisal of the idea of like having the thing on TV in the first movie. Now we have another classic on TV during this movie. I got to say, the fucking broadcast schedule for whatever TV station is, is killing it. Halloween, 1978, man.

Public domain broadcasting. the interesting thing about this movie with the television stuff is how localized it is like there's a local adenfield TV yes department that's walking around filming shit yeah that's wild and they are shook by the events of this night they cannot handle this shit this is the biggest story of their career I mean yeah if you had a localized TV for your town it would just be high school

basketball games and then like that's it but I think the only reason we're breaking in like this is because not only is this going on in this town and they're fucking losing their ever-loving minds about it. But the guy perpetrating it is a local legend. Local news stations love when a local kid made good comes home. That's true. And then, you know, this package that you're developed, like, you could, you know, this is part of your real. You can maybe get the anchor job in Chicago.

You always want it. Local news anchor, Tush Gurkin is being called up to the big leagues after covering the dozen or so murders. I will tell you, Tush Gherkin's going nowhere if that's what this guy's name is because this guy drops the ball. This guy totally fucks it up. And also Tush Garkin, I would say, maybe not like an on-air broadcaster,

but that dude could definitely write for an old newspaper about boxing. Oh, yeah. The lady's from Tush Girkin. I was, I had some... I was talking to Mike Tyson and then he punched me, right in the face. He's like mispronancing Smithgrove.

He's like, Smith Grove. It's like this dude's first day on the job You gotta get down there There's MASH murder call What? Live on TV Okay I imagine him just pouring sweat

Like Alba Brooks and Brock has to Exactly Playing with the ends of his coat While he's on the camera Like There's dead kids It's like you want me to go out and do what I don't even know where to put my jacket

When I get into the office I was just gonna you know Wish everyone a scary Halloween I was like I was practicing it all morning Hope you have a scary Halloween Tush Girkin signing off And you know good old Emma Girkin She was just gonna put a little strand of blood

Down my chin here And it was gonna be like I had eaten somebody And now I can't do it It's ruined, it's ruined my whole bit is ruined Totally totally worthless Kids are dead now my bit's done I do love this neighbor girl Who's just like

There were screams next door from, you know, Mr. and Mrs. L. Rod's house. And, oh, you know, she's, she's always ragging on him. So she, he probably just decided to start beating her. Yep. Uh-huh. No problem. Welcome to 1981.

L.O.L. Got angry and decided to start beating her. Oh, big deal. Yeah. Like, what to fight? Like, what the fuck. I think Alice, this other babysitter neighbor here, does not care too much for Mrs. L. Ron. Yeah.

No, no, not. Maybe she's fucking getting down and dirty with Mr. L. L. They were supposed to watch another living dead together. Well, he's old enough that that's sort of like babysitting again. I told you, Mama, I need my sitter to come over. I'll be over in a minute to change your diaper.

Come on, Indo, we're going on the road. You got the corpses, baby. Like, you imagine her coming over to Mr. Aron. You know, Mr. Elrod, they're doing a hell of a lot of stuff with bathtub acid. So if you ever get tired of your wife, you could just, nice snapping easy. that's another angle they could have gone to, like a copycat or something.

Oh, that would be beautiful. So the other girl, the other line is just like, yeah, so did you hear about that like triple murder like up the street from you? Pretty wild, huh? It's the perfect time to start murdering because then you'd be like, fuck, you got another one. I don't know. I don't know. Someone stabbed him. Wasn't me.

Don't check the prints. This is a good sequence, though, because when she's on the phone and the woman, I think, doing the voice on the other end is Nancy Loomis. Oh, cool. who played Annie in the first movie and she laid down on a stretcher for the second movie here but she's talking and she's like oh wait Alice is like where it didn't happen

and she says whatever the cross streets are and it's a really good oh that's right here and you know at that point that Michael is already in the house because they're doing a good like he's there and then he's not thing and then she gets fucking

ultra murdered and apparently this was a and it kind of makes sense like, because this scene has nothing to do with anything really. Carpenter directed this because it was like a, we need one more fucking violent kill

to make this just like Friday the 13th. And so that's why you look at that too. He like takes the knife, jacks it upper fucking chanter. It's a real, really wild. He's very active. He's getting back into motion. He jumps up to make this murder. It's like he was

crouching and went up. When this movie came out, there's a huge moral panic about it, that it was too violent. It was banned in West Germany, Norway, Iceland. People said... Was this on the video Nasty's list? Probably then. Yeah, we have to ban it. Someone used this movie as their

murder defense that I killed because I saw... I saw Halloween 2 while on PCP marijuana and alcohol. That's why I killed those people. It's... I might be one of the first trials like that. And then there was actual a dialogue in this country, apparently, if we should

ban horror movies. I don't believe in the death penalty for anybody except for that person. That's the one person. I'm like, go ahead, go and do it. They'll be a narc about it, dude. Yeah. Exactly. You murdered somebody. Just fucking take take action. And if you were inspired by the movie,

fine, but don't try to take it away from other people. You should say like some totally innocuous movie that has no murder in it at all. Like, like, fried green tomatoes. Fried green tomatoes made me murder my mother and father and my neighbors.

The film sideways turned me into a family annihilator. I just love the idea of like, yeah, I'm going to get really high, get completely drunk, take BCP, and then perfectly watch this movie. I'm going to understand it. Watch Chris O'Donnell's amazing death. Has anybody seen Fried Tomatoes?

Oh, no, it's been, no, never... You got to watch it just for the... I'm not going to tell you to watch anything past what happens. Is it better than his death in, what was that Mark Wahlberg movie? Mark Wahlberg. Max Payne, doesn't he get totally shot up in that movie? It's so much better than that.

Really? So, so much better. Oh, they fry his tomatoes. They cut off his testicles. You heard it here. This. Oh, is that common parlance? I don't know.

That's Siski E's right there. It doesn't make sense. Mike going into this, both of these houses. is very reminiscent of, and I think that's what, like... Did you just call him Mike? Yeah, we're close enough. Me and Mike. It's a second movie.

We're buds. Mike's coming over. Mike goes into both these houses. And it reminds you very much of what Halloween 2018 and Halloween ends does. Yeah. Or kills. Cills. Cills does because that's what those movies thrive on.

It's like him in a neighborhood, pop it out of houses. Kind of like Grand Theft Autoing people. You know what I mean? Without a plan, like, you know what I mean? Exactly. Like, you kill someone, you got that one or two stars. You walk around the block enough. Oh, wait. They're flashing.

Oh, they're going away. The stars are going away. Okay. Oh, we're going to put it on the 80s station. Oh, boy. Shoot that poison. Is that letting Clark out here? Let me just go into this other house.

It does succeed in that. The whole French, that's the bread and butter. Yeah, exactly. It's him being creepy walking around a neighborhood. I love it. Exactly. a lot of that works out nicely but like it would be funnier if

and I mean these you could do it with the Dave and Gord Green movies does as I say in 81 those kinds of video games isn't exist yet but like he goes into a house and he's just kind of looking around opening draws not finding any knives looking around nothing just leaves oh man that would be great like an open world

Michael Myers game and like you have to use a fork for a while until you get enough experience oh yeah you're like strangling only into you can find a kitchen that's got a knife. You're hugging dogs. You hug like 15 dogs to death and then you get a knife. Strangling takes so long. You get

a big person out there and it takes like 20 minutes. Oh yeah. So you need to find the knives or like a roast like serial moms being somebody to death. Strangling takes longer than you think kids. And like the whole, all the NPCs are trying to get Michael to the hospital but he's just fucking around like

trying to move bookcases for a secret passage there. It's like dude you've fucking been in this house three times. you know none of these moves. Stop trying to talk to your child through a black hole. Yes. So, you know, he's weaponed up and whatever. And so then we see Lori being taken out by the ambulance and everything. And she gets put in in the car. We're driving here in the bus rather. And a hilarious exchange between these two EMTs who will become characters in the film. One guy goes, the guy drive in. Is it but? Is it but? Yeah. He goes. was a, is her old man? The other guy, Jimmy goes, oh, it's Laurie Strode.

I go to school there. And he goes, oh, is her old man strode? Really? Which Jimmy replies, yeah. And then this guy just goes, oh, okay. I was like, what is that delivery? Do you not believe him? Like, what?

It was definitely a slight. There was something like, oh, that guy gave me a bad deal on a morgue. It's a small town. They've definitely run into each other. Something happened between these two. Isn't he the guy that's handling the Michael Myers estate? Maybe that's the kind of the thing.

Oh, he's like, oh, he's in on it. Or maybe because, you know, realtors for whatever reason, you always do the billboard with your face on and that smug fuck got what was coming to him. Exactly. Now your daughter got stabbed. Try working at an empty hospital. Maybe you would you like that?

I really do. I do not like billboard people. You misspoke, though, Andrew. It's not just her. He takes Jimmy and Bud take her. and her wig to the hospital. Yeah. That was on life support. I'm just a cave man. I don't understand

this thing is so big and so it's a lot. She had looked really short hair because it was, you know, Jamie Lee Curtis in the early 80s. That's what she did. That's what she's still doing. Um, but like she looks good in every hair do. Even a wig. I don't look. Of course. Even in a wig. She looks fabulous. But

this wig is awful. This wig. I feel like if I was You want to take it off of her. If I was like 10 to 15 degrees crazier, I'd be watching this movie like, this wig's telling me to kill people. That's how fucked up this wig is. You know, I just read the Wikipedia.

I don't know what he actually said in court. Maybe it was all derived from the wig. The wig. It was all snake's hair. Yeah, we're at the Simpsons episode. But it's also like, it's way closer to like a strawberry blonde than what she even looks like in the first movie.

Jesus. And you fucking showed me footage from the first movie assholes. I guess that is kind of what Eric was talking about earlier is like all of these things I think the first like two times I watched this I was like oh that's stupid. That's fucking God damn it. And like the simple fact

that this is just so much more competent than what they end up with after the next one. Yeah. I'm just kind of like at this point I was like I kind of like this now. I'm kind of okay with all this bullshit. Like I've kind of eat. I'll eat it now. Also with the hair thing you know like you get scared. Your hair goes

a little lighter, you know? Oh, that's true. I'm sure the whole head at the same time. Like Ash when he sees the evil dead. That's right. And personified. Why is Michael Myers a tawny blonde in this movie as well? I mean, that the mask is looking not great. Well, it's a little, the mask is a

little shabby in this one. But it's still better. It's better than all these other masks that come after it. That's true. And didn't Rick Rosed Rosenthal? He also directed Resurrection, which one of the worst ones. I'm just going to say, objection. Part 4 is pretty good and the mask was pretty good.

I need to go re-evaluate part four in the mask specifically, but but yeah. Welcome back to Mask Watch. This show is sponsored by Better Help. You know, my 20s while being a lot of fun, a lot of the time, were pretty rough. I wasn't exactly rolling in dough. I lived

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But during the production of the first movie Like there was a bunch of shit with Who was a Nick Castle in that movie He was playing the shape Yeah right now we got folding it up And put it in his pocket And then in between the movies It was like oh well

If we ever do another one of these We don't want anyone to take it We can use the same mask And it was like under a bed In Deborah Hill's house Who was like Famous Chain Smoker Oh so like when you get

this fucking mask out. It's like, yeah, dude, with all the Marlboro miles that that thing accumulated. Hey, Deborah, what are you doing with them? Are you, are you sweeping up the floor with the mask? Why would you be doing that? Because I can. Okay. And is this, is this where now we have Dick Warlock instead of a Nick Castle. I mean, maybe that, maybe it would look better on Nick Castle. Well, that's, that's another thing, too, that apparently Dick Warlock was more stout. So that's why, like, the head looks a little wonkier. Also better name. Oh, but Dick, you're not going to beat Dick Worlock.

Maybe his son, Billy Warlock, which is actually, Billy Warlock is his son. William Warlock. Yes, is from society. Yeah, totally. Oh, okay. The Shantan got the shunting. Oh, or witnessed the shuntling. That's amazing.

Yeah. That's a future episode or commentary. I don't know which. We will be covering it at some point. The fucking W.H.M. Pookmanter is watching society. If you haven't seen society yet, check. I am nice or not. What are you kids?

Oh, that's it. That's the commentary. There it is. Oh, it's got to be a first look commentary. Okay, so I will now wait until we do that. Probably looking at the commentaries, maybe next year. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. By the way, commentary, just because we're talking about, we got Friday the 13th part one.

Coming out. The original, we'll be doing a full commentary track to the original Friday the 13th. We're very excited to be in Franchise Town. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Embrace the franchise every once in a while. Meanwhile, speaking to Franchise Town, Loomis is just He's

I mean like I kind of wish that I mean obviously In the movie Say that he does But like This movie pretty much Closes the door

That he dies at the end of this one Like he just wants to make it through tonight So that he could just be like I shot him six to anyone who will listen Like forever He's just Because he says it like 40 different times You know he's like

Listen lady I shot him six times And he kept moving So insurance what's that like You know this convention seems kind of crazy I shot this guy six times he must have been pure evil. Do you think by

part four when he comes back and he's like scarred up he's like down in VFW hall's like I was kind of in a war too. I shot him six times. Yeah you shot him six times well do you want a second scoop on your rum raisin or what here man? Oh I shot him six

times you see six times. Yes and what do you want on your pizza sir? Six pepperoni slices one For each bullet hole in his fucking monstrous face. You got it. You got it, sir.

I'm going to go home and kill myself. Got to need another Luma special. Yeah, it's just a pizza with six pepperoni slices on it. I shot him six times and I bought the extra large soda so I can refill it in the middle of the movie. He's like shaking over his shoulder. Is it okay if I refill? You know, they look preoccupied. I'm refilling.

I got the special extra large popcorn bucket with a little. the riddler on it because I wanted it. What do you mean? It's not unlimited refills. This is ridiculous. I shot him six times. Oh, oh, oh. It's unlimited refus, but it's not unlimited butter. Bullshit!

I'll be calling the Better Business Bureau on my way out of this shit hole town. And I'm going to say, hello, Better Business Bureau. Yes, it's me. The hero who shot him six times. Oh, what's that? I need to call the Butter

Business Bureau? I guess it. Not only were they bad with the popcorn. I asked for six cubes of ice with my soda and that's all I wanted. I implore you. This isn't about refills or free refills.

I didn't eat it all. The last time I was at the concession stand was 45 seconds ago. I'm telling you, man, I dropped it. I dropped it all. I didn't eat the crust. I'd like to exchange it. Turn turn it in.

Six times, can you believe that prostitute? I'm still hungry six garlic knots, please. Whatever you want, hon. Say it. You shot him six times and he got up. Oh, yes, I'm coming now. Now I'm shooting a seventh time. And what else?

What else? He was pure evil. Yeah. What kind of eyes were those? The blackest eyes. like a doll's eye. And it was extra for all that evil talk, right?

I was sure to go to the ATM before I came in. Listen, doll, it's Loomis. You're going to go up to the hotel room. He's going to sit on the bed like a perfect gentleman. You read the script and he's going to ejaculate. You get 70 bucks. You go home. Yeah, he's naked under

that raincoat. He's out of state. You won't see him again for a while. Yeah, it sounded like he was having a good. time and I thought he was coming but he kept yelling yeah but no so he's driving around with our friend Charles

Seifer there the Sheriff Brackett Sheriff Brackett I live by this point man these two and it sucks like Brackett obviously when he finds out about the murder of his daughter fades out of this movie and we get this fucking Viking guy as the new cop but like Ed Negley Jr. by the way

wow but like the two like Charles Seifers and Donald Pleasins, they just make the funniest little comedy duo at the start of this movie because Seifers, like, Sheriff Brackett is fucking over it with this guy. He says it, he's like, I'm just about there, Loomis, is like, wheyer, he's like,

I'm just about done listening to Utah. And it's just like, just about at the point where someone tomorrow morning is going to say, you died by suicide by cop. I honestly think he would have been able to get over the death of his daughter easier. if this hadn't happened directly beforehand. It's just stressed out of his mind

because he had to fucking drive Loomis all over the goddamn place. That exchange when the daughter's wheeled out it's so fucking good because he's like, the sheriff's like, damn you and he's, I didn't do anything. That's so good. Listen, I don't know if you've been listening to me all night.

I told them to keep him in. Every chance he fucking gets. He's telling him that to people. You let him out. No, I didn't. You let him out tough guy You didn't I tried to arrest him six times Sheriff

He let this man out Okay two things One No I didn't I tried to keep him in and two This isn't a man Listen Let me hear me out

Really quickly objectively If you shoot someone six times Does it sound like you'd like them To leave a mental hospital Of course not That is the act of someone who wants to keep someone in a mental hospital, Sheriff. I got to say that guy can't shoot for shit.

There's no fucking way he shot him six times. It's like a delusional cook. Well, Sheriff, if you cannot kill him, please direct me to your monster hunter. Where is your monster hunter in Haddonfield? Because which is what we need? Oh, of course. That's just like an American police force, not a single monster hunter among you. Now listen, sweetheart, when he comes in, don't ask if he let him out because he didn't

and that's going to ruin it. It's going to add an hour onto your trip. Oh, my God. You're talking. I get to go up and service the Dr. Loomis. Yeah, bring a raincoat. He's going to have one already. Oh, look at this.

I brought the Sibbian for you to ride. Howard, are you hearing this big fan? We're getting loose in here tonight. Baba booy. Oh, Baba booy. Howard, I shot him six times. Did you hear me, Howard? Six.

Hear that, Robin, six times. And yes, and I will actually be at the comedy store opening for Beetlejuice later this month. I know it's a terribly degrading gig, but everyone has to start somewhere. Okay, let me recap. I shot him six times I tried to get him to stay in and So they're driving around

Brackett is fucking tired of it They think they see Michael Myers And you get out And it's like And Ken Loomis is so unhinged. Yes. And remember it's established in the first movie that this is a Halloween mask

sold at the local hardware. Yes, correct. People have this mask. Exactly. And he just starts about to unload. Brackett, thankfully, is like, hey man, let's double check because here's the deal, Steve, if he's to

unload this gun yet again at this moment, even if that is Michael Myers, you know, down the sidewalk or whatever, these bullets are going to have to pass through about nine kids because the thing that's weird is, you know, we talk about this on the WLM, but like, what I

love about that first movie is it makes it feel that it's gotten so late in the night that trick or chitter's off the street and all that stuff. In this movie everyone's back outside. At one point near the end of the film, you learn it's literally only like 11.30 at night. It's insane. So it's all

very strange or whatever. But at that moment, he draws the gun. And there's like six kids dressed as wizards and shit. Sorry little Superman. We're going to find out if you're bulletproof tonight. To kill a monster, you must also kill some angels sheriff. You have to become a monster.

You know, little Timmy, I really think going as one of the droogs is quite weird for someone your age. Ah, yeah, you got the kid in the lobster suit. You got the kid in the cowboy get up. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Mr. Loomis, I don't, I think

you're going under. We should also mention that, you know, this movie, because Halloween is scary. There's also the kid that that goes to the hospital from I guess eating a razor blade and an apple or something it's such fucking bullshit and I feel like that's kind of just like Carpenter

like having a little fun in the screenplay here but it's like that fucking urban legend shit the only thing dumber is the we're putting edibles and shit we're putting weed in shit they're putting fentanyl in the Halloween candy that was always there was always a thing I remember being a kid and they were like

listen if someone tries to give you stickers like I don't even know what the told my whole class Someone's trying to give you stickers Stickers Oh stickers Oh stickers Yeah I thought they were against the Snickers

Kandy Yeah it's gonna be LSD And they're gonna give you free LSD To get you a seven year old really high Because the thought is so funny It's it would be funny if someone was doing that And then followed the kid around the whole night Just to see what happened

Yeah Dr. Loomis started that way It's so dumb Like that because like listen Man first of all with someone like myself and the regulated edibles that are out, for anything to happen, I need at least like four

or five, so like, that's a lot of money. I'm not giving that shit away. It's expensive. The new thing, though, with these fucking idiots and all these like morons on television, just stirring shit up for no reason, oh, now we're giving fent out. If you get candy that looks like rainbow smarties, don't, because it's

fucking fent. Okay, so, so which is it? Kids are walking around on Halloween, collecting all this delicious fent fend to eat later or cops are coming within a fucking foot of it and passing out like a fainting goat. Which one is? You can't have it both. It's the first one. The second one, they're fit. That's just, that's panic

attacks. You can't, you cannot get high by touching something with a rubber glove on. It cannot happen. It cannot happen. Look, Chris, I know that, but we're talking about morons and liars on television. Yes, but I do like the idea of a kid. Daddy, I have a smarty

and now I feel like I'm ready to die. no one is giving away drugs we are ingesting it watching Halloween 2 and then committing the murders from the film that works yes but all right so here's so here's the timeline Loomis gets out I think that's Michael Myers Sheriff Brackett's like you better be sure

also let's not open fire on children and then a cop I don't know Dale Earnhardt fucking senior is just zipping through fucking Haddonfield and just plows this this kid into a van and it's Simpson style explodes.

The van must have been full of what? Carasine? What the fuck? It was driving to conduct Haddonfield's annual fucking Halloween fireworks spectacular. I guess Ben Tramer who it is a sad RIPD, Ben Tramer

here, not Michael Myers. He's known to be drunk. His friends are like, oh, he was really wasted. So maybe he's just a doused in whiskey. Or like, or a great no great alcohol It's even more flammable Oh, we don't, you know, we were You know, we were looking

We were expecting a shipment here at the dynamite factory And I love the And, uh, damn The exchange of like, is it him? Is it him? Oh, I better get going. I'm 92% sure, chef.

92, that's pretty good. Dude, after he fucking gets this dude Smushed and lit up to his death, this fucking doctor has one foot over the town line for the rest of the movie I really sure it's getting it really late

well I've tried my best I just did shoot him I want to be clear shut him six times I tried six times and all 17 years old you don't say

you have a bicycle I could borrow perhaps what is the I saw is there a local railroad I might take I don't need a ticket

I'll just be riding it till the end of the last Is there a store nearby where I could buy a bindle? Would you like to trade clothes with me? I think part of why they have him so amped up in this movie is because Donald Pleasance is most known for being a crazy man. I mean, wake and fright, cul-de-sac are the ones I think of all the time. And he's a maniac at both of them. What's a movie where he's fucking running around the subway?

I think, funny enough, one title of the movie is Dead Needs. he's like a cop oh when it's like the cannibals are in the back yeah yeah yeah yeah he's not like a villain or anything but he is kind of an unhinged detective in that movie if i'm remembering the movie right yeah does crazy well i'm glad to say he's he's what's keeping this thing really going other than dean oh yeah yeah no totally he he makes this movie because otherwise you don't have much here i mean lorry's just sitting around the hospital she's sleeping most of the movie yeah yeah i mean you need him in this movie because it that's once we get to the hospital it gets very dreary and very quiet.

Well, she's not her sleeping. She's being watched. Dude, this guy, Jimmy. It gets dreary and a little quiet, but you get those bosoms in that out. Yeah, we'll get to the Grand Teton's a moment. First of all, she's like, please don't let them put me to sleep.

If I was through this and I mean like, yeah, maybe Michael Myers is going to get me, put me out anyway. I don't, I'll see you guys. and the A.m. Or I'll see you in hell. Either case, I'm ghoul. She won an Academy Award and he's a congressman. Good night. Exactly. Mundo. I am good. I've had enough terror for one night. I've been bleeding. Yeah. One thing about this hospital that I thought is interesting. Maybe it's a little much is Halloween decorations around the hospital feels a little insensitive. Dude, that's a skull. I'm going to be one soon. That's a ghost. I'm going to be one soon. That's, they should keep to the pumpkin.

and the pineapples? Why are pineapples? Are they an evil fruit that I was not aware? Maybe they had a fucking luau at this hospital because nothing else was going on. Plus, we are told that there's a party happening at one point because that doctor's wasted. He was at a country club and he got wasted there. And apparently the Stroads were there, but they're since missing. The Stroads, first of all, first of all, first of all, one, I think it's also incredibly unsanitary. If I had to rank the sanitariness of decorations, Halloween is at the bottom.

Christmas seems a little bit more sanitary than Halloween. Oh, sure. Well, Christmas, you know, you're trying to brighten spirits and everything like that, too. It's like, you know, mostly outside kind of lights and stuff. I feel like Halloween, it's just like, it's all cray paper, like, well, furry, black cat shit that it's just a fucking germ trap. That's fair, but those, you throw those away more often probably, but those, those Christmas decorations are forever. Yeah, that's true. We got our little old wrinkled hands on them and we're hanging them up in the windy.

It always goes back to the old people with you Oh well because I live with old people I live with hundreds of old people I think with the pumpkin rotting is yeah that's messy But you have to remember with Christmas trees You get those things shed Yeah that's true And you are talking about a solid 10 minutes of sweeping after that

Here's the thing I think you know We need to go back to remind ourselves We're talking about decorations for a hospital Sure I feel the only decorations for any holiday a hospital should have, it's the gag from the Simpsons. Someone goes up and it's a fucking Santa thing and they staple it to a wall. And then it's like, oh,

Valentine's Day. And they go up and they put a little cherub guy over Santa and they fucking staple it to the wall. And you just keep doing that repeatedly until the end of the holiday calendar year. But Chris was on to something with this Christmas tree stuff, which I do, you know, I like having an actual tree, but you've got that

murky Christmas water. It's like dark. It's got like a film on it? Oh, well, I don't know if you're lucky. As a dog owner, I have to keep on yelling at my dumb fucking dog to not drink that. My cat will fucking guzzle it all down. Oh, wow, really? Yeah. Taste you're clear. We do the thing with the saran wrap that goes over it kind of like I literally went to a fake tree because my cat would not stop drinking. We got the fake tree, man. We keep it in the storage unit all year and bring back. That's maybe what, maybe what I'll do next year, but I have actually a solution to why

this hospital is like this. I think this is next level Halloweening. I think this is an apartment complex that they did up like a hospital. That's the only thing that makes sense. Where are all the fucking patients? Where is anyone like is there an emergency room? Because this

there is, there has to be because the little kid comes in and I do, I mean, as much as that urban legend is fueled for bullshit for fucking conservative panic. I like that element of this movie. because it just gives this movie a little bit more danger to it.

Like, what else is going on? That's an interesting idea because it's obviously now Michael Myers who put the razor in the candy. Like, there's some other fucking freak in town. Exactly. It kind of is sort of almost lobbying out or setting a lob for Halloween 3,

which is just like, we are going to expand beyond Michael Myers. That's an interesting way to look at. I never thought of it. But it is, I agree. It's a very lazy whatever. Hey, I remind you, I'm pretty sure, one, I did not let him out, two, I shot him six times and now, with 100% certainty I can say, he's putting razor blades in candy, sheriff. And again, Ben Tramer looked exactly like him.

I will not take responsibility for this. I don't think, I don't think, watching him again last night, I don't think Loomis is really to blame for killing Ben Tramer. it's this fucking Zippy cop Yeah it's Dale Earnhard I don't know why that guy is Because isn't there some line about like He's like oh yeah I couldn't stop

I couldn't see him But he but it's set up Because it's like a we want everybody back out again We're not we're not whining things down Bad shit's happening still Like he's still out there Get your ass down to the corner of whatever Oh okay

You know in Route 17 And I think that's why that guy is supposed to be speeding But, like, at that point, this van is in the middle of the road. There's another police car right there. What are you doing? Slow down. It would be great if at the end, like, they have to, well, not even at the end, if they just have to go up to, like, Ben Trammer's parents and be like,

listen, Mr. Mrs. Tramer, your son, it burst into flames out of nowhere. Can we see his room real quick? And it's just a bunch of apples and razor plates. Oh, shit. Yeah, all like that. Well, I was sort of right. it was a good thing that it happened I think I deserve a metal

Mr. Mrs. Tramer that rotten son of a bitch Michael Myers stole a cop car and I just can't believe with that rotten son of that Michael Myers if we get our hands on him God if I told you what he did at the sticker factory

he just he went wild Hey sheriff Yeah I think they bought it Those jacket up Oh they're still here Oh I've heard everything said. I love

speaking of Eric, all your stuff about like him walking around. I love the way that he learns where Lori is is the most like accidental thing but it's a cool moment where Michael again just blending in which is

the terrifying part of it right? He's blending in with everybody else and he's walking on the sidewalk and he bumps into the kid who's wearing a cowboy hat and he's got the huge boombox which I believe is Billy Warlock. It is yeah. And you hear it's such a like blink and you miss it thing or like like sniffer like cough in the movie and you totally miss it because it's really quiet on the mix but the boombox is saying like

and the survivor lorry strode was brought to hadn'tfield adrenaline and like as soon as that is said in the shot right there the theme song kicks in and he's like off to the hospital like calling all perverts calling all perverts Lori strode is asleep at hadnfield memorial hospital yeah that's when like jimmy the orderly is like hey let me go watch her because that's thing dude like so like you know they bring her in and she's like they do put her out you know this drunk doctor puts her out they sew her up but dr mixel plick or what's this big doctor mixer backwards no literally the name is dr mixer yeah but uh she she goes out and jimmy you know like he's a little older than her because you know blah blah blah blah he's like she goes

at school my my my kid brother he is like touching her hand when she this is like kill bill shit dude i was like can i see Jimmy's pussy wagon My name is Jim and it's Well it's pretty slim You know there are moments like that When she gets into the car And she's like falling out of it

It's like wiggle your big toe Let's go Lori move it But so like she's like Into it I guess Because she's like he's niceters Like let me get you a Coke It's like first of all I don't know Dude I fucking lost two pints of blood

I don't want a Coke right now Well maybe she's loopy That's why she's like oh yay What are you Who are you? Meanwhile, the fucking... Don't put me in a closet again, please. The Stroads are at this fucking country club getting hammered.

And someone's like, oh, my God, three teenagers are dead. They're like, ah, what of the odds? You know what I mean? Well, they'll be just as dead when we get home. Another drink. Another drink over here. I would think we were just... I was promising my good friend, the lawyer here, that I could out Tom Collins him.

I was talking. To Tish Girkin earlier today. He said he had... Such a good joke. This must be yeah. He must be talking about dead kids.

Honey, what was it? Lori said, because we had to pay that fee for the graduation ceremony. How about here

in the class? It's a graduating class of like 400 kids. All right, do the odds, everybody. Three out of 400.

I would say here. Another thing is I fell for that bastard Orson Wells a stupid fucking war of the what?

I don't think not this year. No. What is that? Steve Windward's Valerie, Pump it! Pump it! No, it's a party.

Hey, look, I mean, I can only dress as Captain Hook one night of the year, and I look fucking great. I don't mean. Hall of me! Look, I don't care if my daughter might be dead.

Tonight was the night I cheat on my wife. You get home. You have 400. 121 missed calls Just like Which one's a body This prank calls again

They're getting really persistent This must be the radio station That loose loomis ain't gonna fucking make me fall for his gags All right guys last call Now would be a good time to check on If your kids are alive Hey I think McGillicuddies might still be open You could do a fucking little after party

It's 10 o'clock. Are your children dead? Hey, he asked that. He didn't say his last call. He could be fine. Last call? No, I'm good. I'll make the call later.

Give me a beer. She's fine. She's also, they're saying teenagers. Lori's only seven. Oh, wait, 17. Teenager. Fuck. She's the age of a teen.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. Now I'm getting really sad. My daughter might be dead. Give me a drink. No, no. Honey, don't touch the answer machine. It might be the Columbia House people.

Honey, she's played by at least someone who's a 20 teen. It's fine. She's going to be fine. She's good. She's a great baby. But so, yeah, they can't get in touch with their parents. Jimmy is just touching this girl while she's sleeping. And it's a weird, like she does wake up and he starts telling her what happened.

So it's kind of a weird thing to see. Like this scene is Jamie Lee Curtis. explained what the movie Halloween is about. But that all happens, whatever. And then here it comes, fellas, she uttered this. And I was like, oh, yeah, they do this in this movie. She just goes, why me? And the movie chooses to answer the question.

And I do indeed disagree with that decision. Yeah, that's not a great idea. I think I do like that, speaking of Kill Bill, we get the, the head nurse has pervert alarms. So she hears Jimmy. She's like, wait, oh, get out of here. Oh, yeah, Mrs. Alves. she knows that Jimmy's a fucking finger rubber. Well, because that's the thing.

Like, you think you're okay. You've got the one horny EMT guy, but he's fucking the nurse. That's whatever. It's like, not Jimmy, too. God damn, these horny EMTs. Sure wish a fucking slasher movie villain would come here and straighten this place out. We also meet the nurse who gets naked. Jill.

Jill. It's a weird scene. I guess sort of setting her up to maybe. they kind of do a thing with her and the blonde nurse of like oh maybe one of these are going to be the new quote unquote final girl kind of I think that that's what we're doing because we watch her like come out of a Halloween party and she's like that was the worst Halloween party I've ever been to

I'm going to be late for work so you're like oh who is this character yes oh oh so you drank before coming to work that's good absolutely very good is she the one that's kind of late like Mrs. Alves has given her shit is that the other one yeah she's like you're a good nurse but you're always late You're always drunk. Stop drinking with the strode. You drink a little before, you know, just a little, just to get a pepping your step.

There's nothing wrong with that. Just a little, a tiny little bit of the Canadian miss. If you're not moving heavy machinery, there's nothing. Yeah, if you're diptyping at a keyboard. Exactly. If you've got an email job, it's okay. If this, say, if this is the 15th consecutive year of you not selling the Myers house. Right.

You might as look a little loaded, dude. I feel like rewatching another round right now Oh, I would love to do that. So things start and get a little spooky around the hospital, folks, because, uh-oh, that phone line's been cut. A number one, stop everything.

Like, literally, I mean, it's a hospital without a fucking phone. It reminds me so much of the citizens episode when, like, Wigab is opening up the police station. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just sort of like, it's just, because it's so incongruous with how police stations work.

And that's what this is. There's no waiting room of like, even like, yes, there are quiet country hospitals, et cetera. There's always somebody in the waiting room like fucking, it's Halloween night. Thank you. For God's sake. It's second to Christmas.

That's it. People are drunk driving, the binge drinking, the razor blade eating. Yes, please. The stickers. My God's the stickers. The whole town. Another sticker.

Code blue. Code blue. It's a sticker. The whole town must be drunk because an. angry mob gathers. It's kind of like a Simpsons episode. Just throw it rocks at Michael Myers now. Fuck you house. And you know what? The way that this

happens in this movie. This is kind of an evil dust tonight a little bit. It is. And I was just going to say though, it's done better here. Oh, sure. Of course. A bunch of assholes don't have a fucking catchphrase. Yeah, that one, it's like we're at a football game.

Yeah, it's like two scenes in this movie. I'm good with that. If it's just part of the menagerie, because I, because I get it. It's like 12 people on the lawn. They're throwing rocks. You see the cop literally give up trying to stop them. Excellent. I got it. I mean, that's a thing. You were talking about like this. It is echoed in Halloween kills. So much of it. Like as they go on, they just do not want to think about anything. They do not want to make up a new thing at all. Like the fact that that is happening, the hospital, a lot of the hospital deaths remind me of what's happening in the zombie remake of Halloween 2. Yes. Oh, okay. It's been a, it's been more than a minute since I've been, yeah, like since theaters for me. And I didn't like that one, but maybe I need to go back to that movie. It's my second favorite zombie movie, which isn't saying much, but it's saying. So, Munsters number one. No. Has anyone watched that yet at the time of this recording? No. Oh, please. Field Report. It's not very good. Yeah, you don't. I say that as a pretty big fan. Oh, my, wait, the guy who never did a good movie, didn't make a good movie. He did two good movies. Okay, how old to you and what? Lord's of Salem. Oh, right.

Actually, I did not see that one. And I would like that movie, dude. You should check it out. I need to check it out, but I just. I know. No, I know, because I feel the same way. Here's the thing. That movie, zero percent hellbilly stink all over it.

No, really? Also, yes. And also one of the few, like, truly, of American, maybe one of 10 great American witch movies. Yeah. Doesn't happen often. Yep. We don't do those well.

I will check it out. The Polish do them much better. Of course. That's right, because they are witches. Half of them are witches. Yeah. But whatever. So, like, they're huck and things.

Poor Sheriff Bracket. I got to say, this deputy really beefs this line. It's like, sir, because it's right after Ben Tramber gets fucking annihilated. Oh, the humanity. And he's like, sir, they found three bodies at the Myers house. One of them. It was Annie. And it's like, oh, dude.

Yeah, but you know what? Take two, Mr. Rosenthong. No, I didn't. Fucking loom his shit. You let him out. Eddie's not dead. I didn't do anything. You did that.

Without you, I was getting pizza. I will tell you this, Steve. I think you're right. But also, there's something about that delivery that ever since I've seen this movie, which the first time I watched this was at circa 1999, maybe, something like that, 98, 99. I have always remembered that dude's fucking

botched delivery it is stuck with me I mean that's because you have to imagine it's a very operatic moment in this fucking peaceful mode like you imagine there had to be all these guys coming around with like match sticks like

all right who's gonna tell him oh god we gave him to the one guy who can't speak you and the thing is you know he sees his daughter Nancy Loomis gets a little cameo here with a throw a cut that's fun for her. And, you know, and then

he's like, damn you for letting him out. You let about. And then like goes away. But I do, I want a third act for that character. I need him to come back. That was to come back. It's weird that he doesn't. Yes. Because he's such a great presence and like he's in the beginning and like you never does it do anything. You know what I mean?

You know what he should be the one that goes up in the fireball? It'd be cool. Like, you know what I mean? Or he's the one that comes back and is like, hey, the governor wants you arrested. instead of Marion, which, like, doesn't make any sense. It just, yeah, he just needs some. And obviously, like, when Marion shows up, I'm like, who is this? It's a real who is this?

Dude, so does Dr. Loomis. We will get to it, but that is a really weird part of the movie. But so, like, yeah, now back at the hospital. We got to, oh, sorry. Oh, no, I was just to say, now, because the phone's out, they're like, hey, security guard, we're going to humiliate before you're inevitably murdered. Why don't you go check it out? Oliver Hardy's security.

Yeah. This dude, Mr. Barrett, the security guard. Now, Chris Cabin, you were hiding this from us off the air. So tell us right now. This might just be a me thing, but because it is a family favorite, I love this movie. Uh-huh. If anybody remembers the movie Mouse Hunt. Uh-huh.

At the beginning, when a fat man consumes a digital cockroach, it is this man. And he's playing the governor in that. And that's how Nathan Lane loses his job, ends up at the string with the house and all that. But I noticed him from the mustache. He's got this mustache. It's not quite a Hitler mustache. Not quite an Oliver Hardy mustache. But it's kind of going into the mouth a little bit.

It's just because his face is really too big. I think that's really the issue. I'll tell you what, though, Steve, if this Mr. Barrett wasn't a security guard, but he was dressed up and had the Oliver Hardy hat on, you would think it's a dead ringer. Yes. Because the mustache ain't that far. Wait a second.

And Michael Myers kind of looks like the skin. Yeah, exactly. The skinny fellow there. I mean, but the thing is, it's like, I don't know what this... This is a fine mess stand. Ouch, my head. A hammer into it.

I mean, what I, with the mustache, like, I kind of get, because like, yeah, you don't want the Yosemite Sam. You're not from Texas. Sure. But if you try to do a full beard, you've got, I mean, quite a lot of face, A. And a lot of it is, let's be honest, too, jelly-like. Yeah, sure, sure. So you just have the stubble on that.

And it's like if you dropped shave pubs on like a jello mold. Like it's just going, it doesn't look good. This looks at least serviceable. It's professional. Yes, that's, yeah. A brunette Santa Claus is probably not great. No, no, it is not. I don't think so.

Because, and it will get eventually if he, if he powers through, it will get somewhere good. But that is at least six months. Well, so, yeah, so this guy has to like go missing, like, fake his own abduction or something. Absolutely. Come back and then you're like, wow, what a handsome beard you have,

Mr. Barrett. Honestly, would have saved his life. God bless the mid to late odds for being like, you know what? Beards for everybody. Everybody gets beards

and every fact guy's like, yes. Yes. And finally, I'm going to grow this beard and then they have the confidence to go out on stage and do long form improv.

Oh, and just a gentle reminder. Flannel. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Excellent. But yeah, so like this guy

fucking humiliated, like he's walking around this place. He gets spooked by a cat at one point. Oh man, the cat is good. He fucking falls in a pile of garbage. Like he opens a door and a bunch of garbage falls on him. And then when like he's very suspicious about something being afoot, he calls like on

the radio to a nurse or something and he's such a fucking coward. He's just like you gotta get out of the phone. You got to call the sheriff station right now. Well, this is his own fault because he he in uh because there's like six people working at this enormous hospital right he grabs one of the night nurses who i don't believe i guess she must die at some point we were trying to figure that out we couldn't remember she dies or not i think she's gets killed with the doctor with the syringe yeah oh right right that's right in his office the doctor gets it in the

eye and then she gets it like through the temple or yeah that's right but so she's like mr garrett i don't understand how to work this radio then you have to stop and be like all right marcy this is how works. You know what I mean? Because then if she doesn't have worked the radio, she can't work the radio. And it doesn't make sense that anyone's working the radio. But we were going to teach her today. We had to cancel really

quick, yeah. We had a whole month to teach her how to do this radio. But then it couldn't work. Yeah, we just, we can't do the radio today. So we're going to die. No, yeah, we know it's a big, it's a big part of working at a hospital. But we

just didn't get to it. We're sorry. No, oops. It's also like kind of surprising that he's the only security guard. And again, like, sure, it's a small town, whatever, but like single security guard on Halloween night. Once again, folks. I wonder if they have an on-call security guard for when they get like five patients versus two or what. We're really filling up in here. But so he gets the hammer on the head because, yeah, he notices the phone lines have been cut and all this stuff.

He gets the cat jumps on him from the dumpster at one point, a little scare. I mean, that's the thing. They're just humiliating this guy. He should not be able to get it up before fucking Michael Myers kills him also. Just to fucking run the trifecta. Or a good old fashioned pants splitting. There you know. That could happen.

Or here's another embarrassing one. I fell in mine. Yeah. Like that could do it. He picks up like a bit in E. Clair out of the trash and gets it up. Oh, yeah, definitely bring food into it. But I will say the hammer and that. head is really good. It is a good

kill. The only thing that could top that is they gave him like the Mo Howard of the poke in the eyes. You know? I would like that also. Yeah, totally. While this is going on, Ben Tramers' body is down at the morgue and we just, we got this dentist

in this comfortably dressed dentist. This dentist who just flew in from a Woody Allen movie. He's got a sweater on over the burnt corpse. By the way, scarier movie. Woody Allen That's a real monster on set

It's a rainy day in Haddonfield Evil dies tonight You can't stop him You don't understand He directs movies I'm walking around you town Yeah I'm gonna go there for Halloween

And play the clarinet Is there a high school there? Excellent Did you shoot him Did you see him When you got the clarinet Did you shoot him? I shot him six times, and he directed another movie last year.

How did he do it, Sheriff? I shot him six times, and he turned around and put a Janeo, Rhinehart CD on. I shot him six times, and then six more times, and he was still eating lunch at Sabas. Evil will never die tonight, apparently. Yeah, yeah, well, he'll go eventually. That was the funniest in, like, in the age of we are racing to get out any little entertainment turd bit onto the internet for the clicks and the lukes and everything. That was the funniest thing or is like after this next movie that no one's going to fucking see that he's currently directing in Paris, Woody Allen will stop making movies. And it was like, all right, well, that's fun.

That's nice. He's in his mid-80s. Nobody sees those movies anyway. He has an original idea in 40 years. who gives a fuck, okay. And then it was like, less than 12 hours later, new headline. No, I'm not. I didn't hear that.

Yeah, yeah. He's just joking. He's going down swinging. He's going to annoy you to death. Michael Myers died in a hospital explosion. No, I didn't. Have you seen Rifkin's Festival? Right after Haddonfield, I went out and I directed a wonderful movie with my friend

Wallace Shaw. Well, I think it was weird because I, in general morbid curiosity, I was like, there was, it was like a couple months ago, he did a fucking Instagram live with Alec Baldwin. Yeah, I was like, God damn. I hate that. We were both like, yeah, I'm tuning in. Yeah, I got to check out this fucking train wreck. But part of it in that was Alec Baldwin asked him like, so when are you going to stop making movies? And he said like pretty soon, like I want to write books. I know, nobody watches. It was kind of funny because he was like, yeah, no one's watching movies anymore. And I was like, no, no one's watching your movies. So let me ask you something. What's the youngest you ever scored? Now, Woody, have you seen this film, The Human Centipede?

Yeah, here's your DVD back. It's a maister piece. Yeah, it reminded me a lot about you, actually. I found the third one very political. I tried to watch a bootleg of the Onaniard Club, but it turned me off because they were way too old. You know, Hollywood doesn't do controversial anymore. More. But so whatever, that guy's dead. Dead is a fucking doornail.

Meanwhile, it kind of turns into a ski movie, like ski school for five seconds with this fucking with the EMT and the nurse where she's like, she goes in, we get like a fake scare where like you think it's Michael Myers, but no, I want to fuck you. And she's like, it's almost scarier as a matter of fact. But she's like, yeah, I, you know, I did six years in nursing school or, you know, three years in nursing school. I make, you know, 30 grand in a time and that meant it's a lot of money.

You know, let me just throw that away by fucking this EMT on the job. Let me throw that right away. It's Halloween night, the famously empty hospital. Your boss is giving you shit at a hospital. Your boss is giving you shit about being laid. It's like, what am I getting railed in a tub? But that tub is beautiful.

It is huge. Look, first of all, here's the thing. She's got things that are huge. Here's the thing. I don't think we're doing penetration in a hot tub. Okay. And I don't think this guy is looking for penetration in a hot tub. This dude, bud. Okay. This guy just wants to get jerked off in a hot tub. Okay. He doesn't care about this lady. You should see something bubble to the surface.

Well, they barely have time because once they're in there, Michael starts cranking up the temperature. The transition, he comes. It drifts to the surface. Sure. And it makes out like a Michael Myers mask, a little holder for eyes. Just to top. It's like a film. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. And then it's like a film. like oh my god and then it's also a reflection of him and he's there oh no it's like Jim Perry with the chicken skin from cable guy he's playing

around he's screwing with the temperature someone takes a shower he's flushing the toilet you know he's having fun with it you're going to come out are you going to come out or what I'm Michael Myers and this is Halloween Jack has toilet

he's just carrying in an alligator into the top I'm Michael Myers. This is me murdering my sister. That's cool. Barna no, near, near, near, near, near, near, near, near, near, near.

I'll fold this porta potty full of spikes. And then we're going to launch it with Steveo in it. And oh, I see how murdered he is. Dude, it would be awesome. Right? You have, it's like the bit from Jackass forever where it's like the fucking room

is completely black and they have to walk through it and it's all the pots and pans are hanging God damn it. God damn it. I'm going to fucking mess that Knoxville up. I am sick of this shit. But so Bud goes out because she's like it's really hot. She's naked at this point. FYI everybody.

Nice. Check Mr. Skin for that. And she he goes to go check on the temperature. He gets garreted pretty good here. This is pretty good. And it's like behind frosted glass, which is pretty nice. And I guess we're to believe that like the motor on this hot tub and the BTUs flowing through this thing, I guess is the reason why this poor woman doesn't hear one, the horrible

murder that takes place three feet behind her and then two, the door opening and him like walking off. I thought, I think, I thought, like, she thought he was, it was bud, coming back in with that one. Is this the one? Like she kisses his finger. Yes. I'm like licking up to you, Mr. Bud. And it's like, dude, he must smell and taste like shit and dog.

The dog he's been eating all night. There's a lot of dirt on those fingers for sure. I'll make this dinner for two. Is that fur? What did you have? But like, it's just, it's one of those dumb. And it's a, it's a horror movie and this is a dumb thing to gripe about. But like, you're sitting someplace.

Someone opens a door. Even though if I know, like, Steve and I are. the only two people in a facility. I'm going to turn around. Okay, Steve. Turn your ass around, lady. I mean, yeah. I mean, I guess so. You would want to look back and look at that beautiful face. I mean, I forget

what actor this is. He looks like he sings for Journey. Oh, yeah. That's the face. He does kind of look a little Steve Perry-esque. I got that. Speaking of faces, hers gets burned. Well, because he sets the TV. He sets he says the tub dude, scalding, by the way.

Sure, sure, sure. Why did we put this year? It's a medical reason. You want to scald flesh. You're going to want to scald that ward off. He's dumped her head in. His hand would be fucking scalded as well. He doesn't care.

He got shot six times. That's true. But I think, you know, a similar-ish kill happens in the film Jason X. And when that happens, like, he puts the lady's face in like the whatever frozen solution there.

Liquid nitrogen. Yeah, liquid nitrogen. But it's like, it's clearly just the face. And they do a good job of making it so it's like a sink where it's only the face. Here's the thing with this pool. They only put the makeup on her face, but this, yeah, one his hand and forearm, but also like... Her breast. This entire woman's, like, front chest.

Everything is going in there. Yeah. It's just a weird, not consistent makeup effect. I feel like if you start doing, like, scalded tits, you're getting NC17. You definitely are. And that's, it's all totally fine. But it's just, it was a thing I noticed last night. I was like, why not his arm and why not the rest of her that's going for a swim right now?

Well, you should have scalded him six times. One time won't do it. That hand can regrow skin. Oh, we didn't talk about it. So, yeah, they're in the, the dental office. And then, like, the dentist is like, you know, there's no fillings. I would guess this kid's probably like 17, 18. He's like, oh, damn.

Well, let me ask you this, Mr. DDS. Michael Myers was 21. Big difference in teeth, or what? I mean, he had a great smile. That's Michael Myers, I think. Let me ask you this dentist. How does one break out of jail? I'm going to need a quick out

because I think the electric chairs is singing my song. Ben Tremor, wasn't an orphan by any chance, was he? Damn. He had plants, fat and all on him. You see, you see, he was up to no good. His grandfather was the congressman. Okay, where is that bike?

Does anybody have a gun? Oh, Loomis is going to be hit the old dusty trail pretty soon. This is around the time where he finds like the Sam Hain thing. Oh, my God, Michael Myers was going to school for some reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They go there. And then I guess this will feed into the latter sequels, Druid Magic store.

Yeah, I guess this is where we're starting it on. right but like yeah they're at the school at one point there's like oh he broke into this and like for what and for who Michael I don't understand this yes but it's like you know oh he broke in through this window here's some blood on a desk

here's this knife that's like you know sticking up like from the teacher's desk they look at it the knife it's like a little crayon drawing of a family and the knife is through what appears to be drawn to be a little girl and he just goes sister and I was like oh no yeah

And then meanwhile, Jamie Lee Curtis, who is literally sleeping through most of this movie, is having dreams about, oh, her mom is just like, yeah, you're adopted. Get out of here. Don't ask me ever again. And I'm not your real mother or something like that. And it's weird only because, like, in the first movie, the only reaction you see with her strode parents is at the beginning when the dad's like, drop those keys off now or whatever. But this sets up a whole, like, she had a really fucking horrible childhood. Well, maybe that's what they're at the fucking country club. Just getting wasted like, hey, Paul and Linda,

don't you want to check out what's going on with Lori, your daughter? Adapted daughter. Another Tom Collins here, dude. Yeah, Freddie, you got to use the air quotes when you say that about Lori Collins, me, bitch. I've done enough. I took, you didn't take her in, Jerry. Oh, you just say Lori Stroke, don't you mean? Lori Miller.

That's your name. That's your name. I mean, excuse me, are we adapting daughters here? Could I sign up? So, wow. What happens to the Myers, Mr. and Mrs. Myers? Do we ever find that out? They just say that they died at some point.

Like, they died two years after the murder or something like that. Yeah, they don't get full of William Forsyth. Got it. I guess it's a Drederick Tatum. Yeah, I believe that they would die of grief. Exactly. But so whatever. Now he's just kind of rampage to the hospital.

There is the doctor scene because it's like, oh man, what happened? I think Lori has another complication with the medication. She goes like catatonic for a second, which I think is like coincides with her remembering she's adopted and sort of seeing herself visit some young man in a institution somewhere. Right, dot, dot. Yeah. And then we need to have several, like,

three-minute scenes of a nurse walking silently down a corridor. Yeah, sure, dude. And then cutting and then not seeing the thing until later. Because I think this is when... It's called the atmosphere. I guess so. But it's mostly just boring.

Because that's what nurse Evans is like she gets like she's just walking around and then all of a sudden it's gone and then like 10 minutes later you see, they find her with the weird drip blood drip thing. This is kind of impressive that Michael Miles knows how to do this. It's kind of a

Hannibal thing. He puts the like an IV in her and you know to like draw blood and then just lets it draw out onto the floor. But like so those blood drips that we're seeing throughout the movie, it's all very like jollow because that's like red red. Yeah. Is that all supposed to be from this poor nurse alves here? I guess so. That's what I have to assume.

Because who else is who's getting the drops? But they also edited it into Lori like sitting in the bed being weird. So I don't know. It's just very odd. It just doesn't make sense. Because that's literally the only thing I can think of of why a blood drop like that would be shown like that.

Right. And in such a way. So like I'm like, well, where else is it? It's not like anybody else is just being bled to death. But if you're constantly referencing that drip, it only makes sense if like Lori or Michael himself goes flying on it at some point, right?

The fact that it's this dude Jimmy later in the film just slips on it. It's like, I kind of like this guy because he's always just, getting into no good and putting his nose where it doesn't belong. So he slips on this blood and he bangs his head. I guess he kind of gets a concussion type of thing. He's out for most of the movie. Yeah. And then

we meet the doctor. He's got a fucking syrigid his eye. The other nurse gets it. It's a good kill in the side of the head there. I mean, because you're like, he's jamming this needle through the skull. I mean, your temple doesn't have a lot of padding there. You know, that's fucking brutal. And it looks like he's trying to make some

room in there too. He's like wiggling it around a bit. The thing that we skipped over that I do think it's one of the funniest parts of this movie is when they are at the school and it's he he gives this whole fucking spiel about you know what the druids did with the end of October and this

that and the other thing. I think that's a little later in the car but yes it is his spiel spiel is great. Well he's explaining it all here because it's written on the chalkboard and some cops like looks like they tried to write some gibberish here and he's like no it's actually weird. After all that happens you hear oh Dr. Loomis

and here's this nurse Marion and it is Donald Pleasant's looking at this woman that he has seen just a few hours ago. I know his life has gone to shit, sure. But it's only a few hours ago and he's like, what? Oh, it's you. I didn't recognize you. What are you doing here?

I was like, well, okay. You know, what do you think she's doing here? I mean, just think about it for a minute. I've been dealing with the murderer of the century. So maybe I forgot it back. Oh, good. You're here. Do you know I shot Michael Myers?

Guess how many times I shot him? And do you know that the Druid priest used to do fire rituals? It was insane. They take animals and they burn them alive to see omens of the future. The future. And you see the barriers will be down. We know all I can do. The dead might be looking in.

What's weird though? Is that whole like, oh, it's you. What are you doing? Yeah. In the look to our commentary for it, that 1980 Friday the 13th, the guy who's running the camp, Steve Christie, I think his name is, like the dude who looks like Richard Dreyfus, there's a part in the movie like towards the end where it's raining. He's got his like Dennis Nedry raincoat on. He's trying to do something outside. And it's Mrs. Voorhe's like Piov, you don't know. And he literally says, oh, it's you. What are you doing here? Like it's almost the exact same line. And I was like, that's very weird. When he dies, does he do it? He kind of gets like a boom. Oh, well, I want to nudgery. Oh, what am I doing here?

I've been deputized by the governor to get you out of this town. The governor had a meeting about you. All right, the governor of this entire state. Well, tell the governor that Sam Hane isn't evil spirits, goblins, ghosts, or witches. Is the unconscious bike the dark within us? That's why you got to come with us, Dr. I'm pretty sure if you told him that he would kill you.

himself. He might take a gun out and shoot you. They're not goblins. I just want the I love the conversation of this Marshall and the nurse driving down to Haddonfield. Yeah. So how crazy is this doctor? Oh, he's nuts. They should have redone

it so they could mirror the opening scene from the first movie. Yes. So when we pick up this crazy doctor, how much you're going to fucking pump into him? Actually, he was a patient. He wasn't a doctor. He's calls himself a doctor. He escaped the same fucking night. Dude, that is the fucking great twist for this movie. It's like

the town's fucking going crazy you know, Ben Tramers on fucking fire. People are dead, blah, blah, blah. Fucking sexy ass sports car just flies into Haddonfield person gets out of the car. Detective comes over. Oh, and who are you, sir? My, I say, you're very handsome.

Oh, me? Well, I'm Dr. Sam Loomis. And Bell lessons is pretending the whole time? Yes. I'd like that. Good sequel switch up there, man. That's a It's kind of a better twist than the brother and sister, honestly. But, yeah, so, like, they're like, you are being, you have to leave this town right now. Michael, remember when you stole my lunch at the sanitarium?

Look, this is payback. The governor. That was my fruit cup, you evil, son of a bitch. Look, the governor wanted to put you backwards on a mule naked and spank it until it was out of town. Okay. I had to, I had to negotiate to just drive you out. Yeah, the state senate, everyone got woke up. Every, what you've been doing today woke up, everybody in the higher-ups of Illinois government,

and you now have to leave Haddonfield. And you can never come back, honestly, never, ever come back. Well, maybe I can. No, you know you can't. Never, never. Don't even think about it. Oh, you haven't heard of the sequels, have you? And now I'll just put a gun to a cop's head.

Because they're driving. And look, here's the thing. She's like, you know, I shouldn't be telling this Dr. Loomis. No, you shouldn't. It's catnipped to this crazy fuck. She's like, you know, there's always this secret file that you never knew about.

What secret? And he's just, he's going on, goblins and other things. What secret file? Whether it's about goblins? I assure you, Sheriff, this is not about goblins or werewolves or draculias. I'm very sorry, Sheriff. I had a few with Mr. Strode.

He was celebrating. his daughter being in the hospital. And now, what's this about the goblin file? Go on. Is that a goblin? Listen to me. It's not a goblin file. I've seen every goblin file there is.

Don't tell me there's a secret goblin fire. You said goblin. I never said it. Did they catch Michael in bed with one? But no, it's a secret. Sheriff, they're turning the frickin' frogs gay. Sure, Dr. Louis. Can't get blood from a stone

broke My wife and children I was eating chili you see No but so So and so Secret file And no one knew about it

But it was sealed For some reason And Dr. Loomis never had it And it said that Lori Strode is actually Lori Myers She's actually the younger sister Bump

Bum And, you know, if you're this marshal and you're tasked with ex-escorting an insane doctor out of town, you're like, hey, sir, are you packing? You're packing tonight? That's a question before you get this cruiser. A pat down, please. Exactly. No, but he didn't do that. So he holds a gun to this guy's head.

He's like, do you have any idea how much trouble you're going to get into? He's like, oh, I'll know. You usually fire a warning shot, don't you motherfucker? And he shoots out this window. And it's like, dude, this guy needs, he knows he's dying tonight. Now we're all deaf for the next two hours. Thanks. That's why this fucking Marshall gets snuck up on and killed later. He can't even shit.

Well, no, we'll get to him and getting killed. He fucking has his own fucking face in this. Yeah. But he's like, we're going back to the hospital. Where is Laurie Strode right now? The hospital. Let's go. And they're going.

And like, you know, meanwhile, any other big deaths? You know, Jimmy's, slip in Jimmy's. Slippin Jimmy falls Slipin Jimmy. Yeah, he goes covered bud and everything. All the nurses He's a doctor and the syringes got covered. The thing I wanted to say about the nurse that gets the syringe in the

forehead. Hey Dean Kundi dude fucking apes himself in this movie but it works awesomely in this office scene he does the same turn that light on like very very slowly turn it up and illuminates his face

but the cool thing is you're in this fucking like really nice leather bound chair doctor's office and instead of a blue lamp he uses like a very warm kind of like yellow orange it makes it look like we're in Don Corleone's office and fucking Michael Myers is there it's pretty cool

I would have loved if Don Corleone had an aquarium in his place that just says something strange about him Michael Corleone comes in hey we got to move my father come on you're a big guy come help me move my father here put this put this hat on pretend you got a gun

All right. You're here to visit your sister, huh? But before Sliven Jimmy falls, he gets his blonde nurse, like, hey, I think everyone's been dying at this sleepy hospital. We need to, you know what, why don't you drive up the road and just find some help and get us help? And she goes and all the cars have there, have been flat tires and they've also like, the transmissions have been. ripped out or whatever else. And she comes back, she's like, it's, he's done a prank on all of our cars. He's pranked our cars. Gotcha. Yeah, that's the jackass almond right there. Sugar and the gas. I go to the commissary, get some sugar. Sugar in this gas tank. Sugar in this gas tank. And this is where Lori's trying to start the car. We're slipping, slipping Jimmy kind of falls

asleep here and presumably dead. Yeah. And, uh, I mean, if not, he actually might, have lucked into it like he might just he might just get out of this with severe brain damage rather with his life he might have his life because he looks dead this moment with lorry in the car is actually one of the i think one of the most successfully tense parts of the film because yeah she limps out the hospital and gets into one of these cars and she's hiding like on the floor and the passenger side and he is up like walking the parking lot like calming and you can see like he's right fucking there and she's really getting under that

you know and then it's like boom door opens and it's Jimmy has no fucking clue. Like come on we're going to draw his head falls on the horn she pulls it back. Yeah but you're right he definitely would have severe brain damage. Oh yeah it's either

dead or just like I don't know he's probably he might not be an EMT for much longer apparently there's an alternate ending to this movie where he's alive and he has like bandages on his head. He's like they're kind of in it together like as a nice moment I guess.

In it together? Not not Michael Myers. Oh no, no. Her and him and Loria are in the ambulance together. Still, I think math has given him some trouble. I guess that happened to me once. Sorry.

She like run. Well, no. Luma shows up, you know, cold on the trail, runs in the hospital even though Myers is outside. Yeah. And then she tries. to run into the hospital. And then

the great shot of Michael Myers just walking through this play class store. It's the most Terminator he's ever been in. It's great. It's really cool. He just walks right through it. I remember the first time seeing this movie truly not expecting that to happen. Yes.

And meanwhile, Loomis shoots him again four or five more times. I don't know if he's going to add it to the story at this point. That's a Baker's dozen. You know what? This guy's always in here talking about I fucking shot him six times. Now he's in here. Oh, now it's magically eight times. Oh, big hero doctor shot evil

eight times. Then he asked for a discount on his milkshake. Do we say that this nurse Jill, when she comes back in, she's like, they prank this and whatnot. And then he comes out with a scalpel and jams it into her spine. Yes. And that's like kind of around here. Oh, does the arkin. And then the shoes fall off. Fuck. Oh my God. watching that tennis shoe drop. I do love the lift up. She got the white stockings,

the white stockings. The what? How she's lifted up, you know, it's fucking great. He makes it's a lot of good use of just this tiny little scalpel, though. I would think that would go right through. I mean, it'd be pretty terrible. Adam Arkin, who you're referencing in Halloween the H-2O, similar

deaths, but that's at least with a huge fucking kitchen knife. There's something to support that Arkin puppet that he's making, you know. In the first movie, he nails what, Bob to the... Yeah, that's also another physics-defying kill. You're right. Knives were dull back then.

It would be funny if he does that the body, he puts it in. And the body just starts, like, slowly going down. He's like, oh, no, no, no, you're ruining it. You're ruining it. A few more knives to start stabbing it up. What else can I put it? This is a sharpener. Okay, in there.

One, man, this fucking security guard, by the way, One last grand indignity for this character is like, again, Jamie Lee Curtis running around this hospital. She's running to like a boiler room area at one point. I think I might be going all over the place. I think this is how she gets outside initially before she goes in the car and he's, you know, swiping at or whatever. As she is trying to climb up these boxes to get to this window, she just looks and there is the security guard who after getting the hammer through the head has been hanged with an electrical cord. I like that. You know, he double taps on his victims.

It's great. He's an entertainer. He wants you. There's got to be some staging, you know? Like the nurse just being there. He could have just killed her, lift her there, but he led her out. He put her in a weird position on the gurney,

you know, and he's, he works at it. He does the same thing with the doctor. He's got, like, oh, it'd be funny if everyone's going to, this doctor's working on in letter, but actually he's dead for hours. They're going to think he has a hearing problem. They're going to do that thing When they tap your shoulder

And turn it around And oh oh big Halloween surprise Motherfunk I love that so much I love when they do that So you are totally right Chris Gavin Because this is where Yes this Marshall

His own death Is his own fault That's great Loomis lays this dude out He shoots him in the face again Michael drops And then the guy is just like See he's dead

And let me get your ass away from there And here I'll split the blame Loomis should take a television and Dan Aykroyd and Gross Point blank this thing into a mess. Give him the old Stu Mocker dude. Boom to boom

to boom to boom to boom. Just fucking decimate it. And immediately, no, yeah. Welcome to prime time, bitch. Popcorn. All right, what was the hospital? What can we do to burn this body? Is there a crematorium?

Marshall. Any heavy weapon, do you, anything that is, used in a construction site. We got a Scaldon bathtub. Oh, that sounds pretty sharp. And he's cinderbox around. Oh, you know what?

We got a huge room full of tanks of gas. Will that do it? Let's lead him there. So, yeah, this guy's like, look, he's dead. Let me put my mouth on his. Has anybody poked this body? Here I go. Listen, I'm so sure he's dead.

I'm going to go nose to nose with him. Don't they teach you that at the police academy? to me the best way to check if someone's deads kiss him he's not breathing i'm kissing him he's not kissing back no no no son you do not hold the sunglasses up to their mouth to see if they're breathing you try to kiss them so myers oh michael mistletoe he just slits his throat like instantly it's pretty nice oh yeah this dude fucking goes down that's the end of the helpful marshal from the film who kind of looks like um uh oh vincent um get off my train Oh, Vinson Chevelle, yeah.

Oh, a little bit like Vincent Chevelli. He also has a great line because, like, as they're going into the hospital, is like, now, Marshall, can I count on you to help me take down this unholy evil man? He's like, well, the only thing I could lose is my job. And right after that is when he then turns to the nurse, he goes, and you stay by close to me and shut up. Well, Dr. Loomis, my daughter was murdered. I have three officers left after.

tonight. So you know what? Yeah, let's go. Let's go to hell with this motherfucker. This should have just been Sheriff Brackett. Yes. I have to... Because like, it's a good finality to their relationship. Like now I have to bring you out out of town. Yeah. Something and or like, oh, just what it's, everything seems darkest. Here

come Sheriff Brackett. He has a moment. Let me be, maybe drives through the hospital door. Ooh, that would be something. I don't know. I kind of like Loomis's plan here. I got, for getting rid of him. Yeah. It has some kinks in it because he's an immortal monster. But I think it's pretty good.

It actually works out nicely because, you know, here we were in, what, 2021, the great Halloween kills comes out, you know, and Lee Seifer, I think, is the guy's name, still alive, Charles Seifers, rather. Right, yeah. He's able to be in this movie to come in and say basically two things in the film. One, I'm here for the Halloween reunion slash open mic. And two, evil dies tonight.

Evil dies tonight. Of course. It's the two things. So thank God they didn't kill him in this middle. That could fucking happen. They're like kind of run around the hospital now. It's just what do you recall it? The nurse goes to call for help on the radio.

So at least maybe cops are finally fucking good. Maybe. I mean, just even in just general, when some cops swing by the hospital with all the goings on tonight. Yeah, totally. Nah. But again, I think they're running out of officers. They're getting killed at a clip.

But look, if the Marshall is common in the behest of the governor, look, I fucking saw Blues Brothers. I know Illinois has got a lot of state police. It's the Grand Theftano thing. Then you get the state police. Then you get the national guard. He's killing. Oh, no. A helicopter is coming after me.

Fucking five stars. Marshall. Damn you. The governor's pissed. I just want the governor like the next day like, so he exploded in a hospital? How? I know the guy that you sent is dead. and police said to the family,

how do you fuck that up? He's 5'3 and 70 years old. I just wanted him back here. This is pretty cool, right? This whole gas thing. We get into the room. And what I noticed this time, man, I was watching the Scream Factory Blu-ray.

Pretty good transfer. When they have the shots are like, they hide in this room, it's Loomis and Lori hide in this room. And Loomis closes the door and it's got like a little porthole, you know, square window at the top. And Michael comes through and it's like,

Hey, motherfucker, you know, and he's trying to get in. If you look at this door, dude, I was getting flashbacks to American movie because this is a door that is properly sliced in all the right ways so that the fucking stuntman can break through it without bashing his face against the cabinet door 8,000 times. Oh, man, I'm sorry. We should, we should have, you got to score that better, man. I scored it. Yeah, I scored that door and I put some salt in it.

I mean, it is ready for the grill. It is perfectly scored in this movie. So special effects. Department for Halloween 2, 1981. Excellent job. He rips through this door like it's fucking cardboard. It's two good door deaths in this movie. The glass door is good.

The wood door is kind of even better. He just comes right through it like an angry dad on Christmas. What the fuck is going on in here? Now, is it Lori or Loomis who gets the hits in the eyes? Lori does. Because that's genius. I would have been like, Loomis. Loomis should have been like, go for the eyes.

I've shot him six times in the chest And it does nothing It is great to see the blood running Running down the mask from the inside Because he gives her a gun He is two apparently Maybe he gives him the Marshall's gun And he is like

He tries to shoot Michael But he's out of no more bullets And he gets scalpled in the stomach And then when he Michael's about to go to her Shot both She's got she's an expert marksman Oh yeah totally man

I mean get her on the fucking Olympic shooting team. Killing runs in the family. Oh, that's how that works. Yeah, he just blood comes out of the eyes. And now he is just swiping and swiping.

And this is rad. I have to say, the killer is blinded, swiping around pretty cool. It's also another very like jollow feeling move. Yes. Oh, yeah. Which is rad.

And then, fine. Oh, there's gas over here, Michael. Oh, I'm going to get you. There's gas over here, Michael. Yeah. It's pretty great. It's cool how Lori picks up on what he's doing. Yeah.

It's doing it. I'm going to get my ass out of here. goodbye. It's a rad point because it's kind of the only time in this entire franchise that you get to see them working in tandem to defeat him which is pretty cool. Oh yeah and I mean

Loomis is awaited in Balhalla for this one. Oh absolutely. This is incredible to just be like oh yeah you think you can do this. How about I light your ass up and me too? It's time Michael baboon.

The suggestion of what happens in the in the sequence of this now makes it very clear to me that loomis whatever the monster blood that runs through uh mike myers vein also runs through lumis is if he survived this thing yeah he walks out he must be he's got another he's got 17 lives see they find lumis and they're like get this man to a hospital well good news i'm ben tremor actually 17 years old Yeah, the fact that he survived. I mean, it is a fucking world-class explosion.

Yeah. And then you get fucking Michael Myers walking out, like he just went three rounds with Dalseem coming out. He falls over and he just burns. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And that's the end credits over the burning mask is great. That, well, she gets out. I do like this foggy morning.

Yes. It's a cool. Yeah, the ambulance drives off into the fog. And like right when it's almost totally out of range. Mr. Sandman kicks back in, a nice book ending. We should say, and I feel like I just thought of it right now, and it would have been fine if we didn't, and there would have been tweets. So I'm going to stop them now.

Oh, please. Yes, everyone, we did indeed notice Dana Carvey in this movie as the assistant to the news reporter. He's hilarious. He says nothing. Yeah, I loved his Michael Myers impression. Featured, extra. Yeah, but he's there, credited it as assistant. He's here at the end, too.

The weird thing is the blonde reporter that he's working with earlier in the film is not because there's a deleted scene where Michael Myers hides in the trunk of her car and then murders her. But yeah, Mr. Samman kicks in. Yeah, I do like the credits in this movie too. Pretty cool. The burning mask and everything. And that should be the end of Halloween, of Michael, that old Michael

Myers, he ain't coming back. And, you know, Halloween 3 is great. And it's cool that they made that move. And it's unfortunate that they gave up on it. They went back to the well. Yes. It would have been cool to see something else. Like, I don't know. I don't know what it would be.

Even if it's just another slasher. Yeah, sure. A totally different type of thing. If it's just a regular guy or a different, you know, obviously a different mask or whatever. Totally. I mean, you know, here's the thing. This, you know, Halloween ends is coming out, you know, around now. And this is like jerk off hand motion, the end of whatever.

But like, it's kind of an opportunity to do that now, right? It's like if you're going to end this and end the Michael Myers thing, do a Halloween movie. call it Halloween fucks or Halloween whatever. You know, a whole new story. Give, I mean, give it five years. You'll hear Halloween Eve is coming out.

And it's like, I don't know. It's going to be a female Michael Myers or something. I don't know what it will be. There will be a other Michael Myers movie for sure. Young Loomis prestige TV. Of course. Starring Tom Holland.

Oh, wait. It's called, it's called, It's like the devil's eyes. It's called Lumis, colon the origin story of Michael Myers' doctor

on epics yeah and towards the end of this first season he meets someone that's just called the patient yeah this kid from Illinois finale for sure his first his first patient's like fucking it's a serial killer duo

with fucking Danny DeVito and Christopher Lloyd how did he get how did he get here oh well he was in a comet and he crashed and And he was inside the comment. You don't understand he's powered by the Earth, son? Do you have any kryptonite sheriff? There is a Superman coming to your town?

I ran him over with eight trains, Sheriff. A nuclear bomb only killed his girlfriend, but he flew around the world backwards and turned it around. Sheriff is faster than a speeding bullet Which I also shot at him By the way He got shot with six Krypton dies tonight

Oh yes That is the end of Halloween To folks We'll go around the room Final Thoughts and Recommendations Chris Cabin Pretty good I would absolutely recommend it

It's Of course You cannot pay attention To the story of it Just bail out there Kills are great Ben Trammer death, just phenomenal. Oh, yeah.

But yeah, Dean Cundee shoots it and then, I mean, fucking Donald Pleasance is rocking it in this. Oh, yeah. And, oh, I mean, it's great. I'm very happy that Lori Stro got to nap. And just after all that, I would also want to nap. So I feel for her. It's another parallel from fucking Halloween kills me

because she's fucking napping in a hospital. That's a good point. That is true. Eric Siska. Yes. And now Halloween ends coming up. And so my voice is about. to end. It's all the Loomis impressions. We're all dying tonight.

Voices die tonight, dude. I agree with what my esteemed colleague just spoke upon. And I think this is kind of a stone cold classic. I really enjoy it. I get the critiques. Totally fair. But it's a fun Halloween movie to me. Va-va-va-voom. Steve Zaneck. It's a light recommend for me. It's, I much prefer the Rob Zombie Halloween, too, to be quite honest. I think that movie is really good. even if you haven't seen

Halloween 1 and forever just don't even go back to that just watch that Halloween 2 I think it's kind of cool it's kind of trippy this it just the hospital really sags the movie I like the beginning

I love Ben Trimmer getting it I love how unhinged Donald Pleasence is but the hospital's a little too sleepy it just makes the movie sag and I really detest the brother-sister thing and I always will just where I live

but there you go yeah and know, it's a recommend for me. I think it's a fun movie. It's just, you know, comparatively to the one that's on the L feed this month. It's just a little tough. And, you know, that's okay. But yeah, the kills in this are cool. I think honestly, it's not hard to make a fucking hospital creepy, especially an empty one. Yeah. So it is really kind of impressive that they make a empty hospital on Halloween night so boring. Like, I feel like you could have done stuff with lighting there. We've got to go into other parts of the hospital. Whatever.

It doesn't matter. It's still a fun time, totally read. And that is Rick Rosenthal's Halloween 2 from 1981. If you want more We Hate Movies. Like we've been saying, patreon.com slash we hate movies. We're going to have an episode of, uh, we love movies doing Halloween 1978 on that fucker. Uh, we got, what's the, what's the spooktacular AD this month? Uh, we're

going to be talking about, ah, real monsters. It's been a long time. I'm, uh, excited. I know. I have, I have not watched that cartoon in forever. Oh, no. I think Clinton was still in office when I saw that last. Uh, so we got that going on. Like we said later this month, the

commentary for the uncut Friday the 13th 1980 will be released for Patreon.com slash we ate movies. A ton of fun stuff We've also got the sitter a Lifetime once in a lifetime bloody lifetime Yes this is a kind of a horror

movie directed by the guy who did Highlander for Lifetime Movie Network. It's a lot of fun and it's on the top tier of our Patreon Long live Russ McCahey Oh hell yeah And here on the free feed of course The Halloween Sputacular continues next Tuesday, Steve, with what?

Yeah, we got to drink some herbal tea or something. You get to put some honey in it because we're going to be talking some George C. Scott impressions next week with Exorcist 3. Oh, boy. I'm going to go on Ben rest with his throat. Yes, put the kettle on. And this is a movie that I dig really hard, actually. I think I'll be the Eric of next week, maybe. Right. And I think I'm the Steve of next week.

So this is going to be very exciting for everyone. I don't know. Who am I going to be? You're going to be. So until next week, when we find out what Steve's going to be, I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. Eric's Cisca. Chris Cabin.

Take it easy. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a title of one good scare. Sometimes. That is better. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in! It is time to keep your appointment with the Wickham Man.

They're coming to get you, Barbara. He's sick for fucks. You've seen one too many movies. Now, Sid! Don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos. What an excellent day for an exorcism. That was a hate gum podcast.