We Hate Movies - S13 Ep640: North by Northwest

Episode Date: November 1, 2022

On this episode, our We Love Movies month kicks off with a ridiculous dissection of the stone-cold classic, North by Northwest! With all his running around, how many opportunities does Roger Thornhill have to bathe throughout this movie? Is it possible to watch this start to finish without wanting a cocktail? And how realistic is it for someone to try and kill a guy by hitting him with a plane in a corn field? PLUS: Roger Thornhill meets the Men in Black! North by Northwest stars Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint, James Mason, Jessie Royce Landis, Leo G. Carroll, Adam Williams, and Martin Landau as Leonard; directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Catch the guys on the road now—next stop Denver! Tickets on sale now! Check out the WHM Merch Store -- featuring new Crispy Critters, MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna? & Mortal Kombat designs! This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/whm and get on your way to being your best self. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

this week on the program boy watching this one you just feel hung over the whole time it's north by northwest i'm andrew jupin stephen sadak eric cisco chris cabot and we love movies We're going to be. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Love Movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. WLM Month continues here on the main feed as we talk about North by Northwest from 1959 directed by Alfred Hitchcock. So this comes right between the year before he does Vertigo. The year after this, the motherfucker does Psycho. Unbelievable. Yeah, he's on the streak here. When did he do Lepricon 2? Is that a little later? I was about to say, yes. Steve, because this is the debut of WLL month. And Andrew just had a pint of whiskey before going on the air. Oh, this is the first one.

See, here's the thing. We recorded these all out of order. I got no fucking clue what's going on. Fucking bullshit. We already did an episode of Memento. But, you know, folks at home, you guys don't know this. You can't see this. I'm drinking, this is a classy, classy movie, right?

Sure. Classy movie. You got to drink spirits for that. and the cocktail of choice in this movie is a pint glass full of whiskey and I tried to get all these guys to do this with me they didn't want to do it

so I only got eight ounces in front of me of whiskey but I'm going to just sipping on this bad boy it's okay Eric now I just have this image of Andrew like his mother finally listens to the show and is a gas and he's like no mother they put whiskey down my throat

they forced me down on the couch and they poured whiskey down my throat and maybe say those terrible, terrible things. Oh, that's what it was, dude, growing up whenever I would fuck up. It's like those mean boys made me do it. But I'll tell you this, Eric, while I'm not a fucking maniac

with a pint of whiskey, I will say, ooh, clink, clink, clink. A little basement clinking right there. This is a freshly made martinium porn for myself. Oh, if you remember the origins of the caclink, clink, clink thing, I wouldn't necessarily want to be calling back

that I am the clink, Listen, the butterfly effect episode, right? Is that the callback? Eric Stoltz. Eric Stultz taking the kiddies down into the basement for the movies. Pouring it out. Pouring it out. I'm pouring it out.

That's a movie for a previous day. Today of days, North by Northwest, Sir Alfred Hitchcock. My God. Now, I understand, as I understand, I'm going to sit here and sip this martini for a second. But Steve Siddack, this was the first time you saw this movie last night, man? Yes, I want to just institute something. It's okay to have not have seen a movie, I think. That's true. Yeah, I agree. Everyone's got

their blind spots. You know what? No, this wasn't accusatory. No, no, no. That was up to you. That's just towards the moving going public, because we do love to be like, oh, you didn't see this, you didn't see that. You could say, hey man, you never saw it? No, I didn't. It was great. And I learned a lot. It was awesome. And I'm very glad to we put this on the schedule because it's a very cool movie. This is one of those movies I was always kind of waiting to see on the big

screen, like if it ever came back in a repertory just because I missed it. I'm pretty spotty with a classic Hollywood as it goes. You know what I mean? Class of Hollywood meaning movies that were made before X-Men 2000 or 75. You pick up a lot in the

70s. You're 70s. Yeah, I'm a 70s. Yeah. But man, this movie if I had a time machine, I'd go back to 1959. Yeah, I wouldn't do any of that important stuff. I'd go back to 1959 and I'd see this at Radio City Music Hall where it had seven weeks in the theater there. Wow, man. Yeah, it had its, uh, the main premiere was in Chicago and then they did the big Radio city premiere, which I was watching a bonus feature on the Blu-ray for this and, um, fucking packed.

Like, it was a lot of folks turning out, uh, the premiere at Radio City. The footage was fucking great. A thing I noticed this time around, way more on location footage than I initially thought. There's a lot of New York in this movie, which is cool. It starts so beautiful.

Like having H-C... I mean, A, I mean, just the credits are incredible with the green and then like the... Oh, the Sall Bass credits, dude. And then against the building and how it's like, you know, along the corners of the building, it's just amazing. But it's incredible.

I mean, we, that's, and that's what like literally, it drives me nuts now is we, opening credits aren't allowed. It's so much cooler to not even know what fucking movie you're sitting down to watch. I hate it. And then it's a, too, title card. Like, I got it, dude. Like, I kind of like the pomp and circumstance. I do too. Let's enjoy ourselves a little bit.

It's a movie, folks. There's an art form to it. It looks fucking great. It pumps you up. I mean, here's the thing. It pumps you up. You got this Bernard Herman score banging in your ears. It's like a fucking college football.

football game is about to start with this movie. Yes. The score is incredible. The score is beautiful. And that is a common thing now where like the whole idea was like you used to like it was a good thing to have the audience settle in to a movie and listen to a score, watch the credits, have that time. But now because we are all about experience and like this is a real thing that's happening. Like they like the urgency is everything that people care about. Like they're like here just you're in it immediately. Like no. Where's the fucking urgency?

and she-hulk. God damn it. Just get to it. I need it. Wait a second. Am I in Gotham City right now? Holy shit. There was no title card. I might be in Gotham City. It's real. It's really real. Like I just, I mean,

I absolutely hate that. I mean, like sometimes it's a cool way to start a movie. Like, you know what I mean? Not everything has to have. There's no uniformity in movie. There shouldn't be. But now the trend is almost never have a title card. Almost never have credits. Well, because those things became lame.

That was the major thing. It wasn't that they were time wasting or anything like that. They're fine wasting time. It had to do with fucking, it was lame. It was, if you start the movie immediately, that means you mean business. I'll tell you what. You're totally right. And you know what I think

is a great example of what we're talking about here, where it actually does a disservice to the material. Because I think the show is great. I'm fully caught up on it now. and or there is just a fucking tiny bit of music and like the card the card comes up and just says andor and like that's it come on man like do the material a favor and have a credit sequence that goes along with the quality of what you're putting out that's fair about but i think what andor is trying to do is trying to be different than all those other star wars shows and i feel like we were really like like the book of bobo fed had too much pomp and circumstance yeah well That's true.

Yeah, exactly. That's my impression. I'm not going to, ho-huh, mother. I mean, I like that we start this. Hitchcock, we see him at the tail end of the credits. He can't get on a bus. This is a bus. But immediately one of my favorite things is as the movie is starting,

there's all like this is a coincidental warning for North by Northwest. Which you all know Has happened to millions of people That they just end up Oh, this is based on a work of fiction That's what you mean? Well, because you know There's some guy named George Kaplan's sitting there

It's really real They're talking about me That's not how it happened That's not how I went to the Plaza Hotel I got a nice room It must be really heartbreaking For George Kaplan Then to keep watching the movie

And then when the professor's like There's no one actually named George Kaplan It's a fake person He's nothing. It's not real That guy's like Oh, my God. I think he starts dissipating in the theater. I'm dissipating.

Somebody help me. No, they're mixing it up. It was Gabe Cap when they were looking for. The star, Welcome Back, Cotter. I see, of course. Hey, Mr. Cotter, man. Why, you got bourbon all over you, sure. Mr. Cotta, I got some microfilm for you.

Here you go. This, you know, this movie, it's kind of great because if you had to point someone toward, you know, a Hitchcock, like, starter thing. It's this movie, because it kind of combines so much of a lot of his movies, like, you know, the wrong man idea, the people on the run trying to clear their name idea. You know, of course, this is a very famous Hitchcock blonde in this movie. So there's a lot here that it's like, this is sort of representative of a lot of what's going on here. And I love this start of him just in the oak room at the Plaza Hotel, meeting his

advertising buddies. And it's just that great, like the fucking goons are there looking for this guy, Kaplan, the bell boy's calling out Kaplan and oops, Carrie Grant as Roger Thornehill. Right. Calls to the same guy because he's looking to make a telephone call. A telegram, like a telegram to his secretary to call his mother who is, the secretary thinks is at a certain place, but she's actually at her friend's house playing bridge. Yep.

And this is an urgent matter because, you know, the, you know, the texting doesn't exist. We got to get the secretary. Well, yeah, because he's got, they have a dinner resi, dude. And then him and mom are going to the winter garden theater that night. And before that, we had a fun little walk and talk. And, you know, Carrie Grant is fucking phenomenal and all of his little things peppered throughout this movie. And even just him saying, like, oh, I feel heavyish.

Think thin, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's what we're always talking about, right? Star Appeal. Like, real, like, actual, like, using every word as an instant to do something new with it, like to read something in a new,

interesting way. And I think it's very important to say that it starts with him. He's an advertising exec. That's what it does. And we begin in the advertising world. And he's telling like there's this whole bit about gold chocolates, like they need to have the chocolates with the gold foil because they're the one that look the best. There is to me this really interesting aesthetic comment that's going on where he's like, this guy is a guy who believes in aesthetics

and believes that like that's all you need really if you can sell something that's all that matters yeah and then he is literally put in like all that matters is the veneer and then he's put in a situation where people just believe the veneer about him oh yeah that's yeah that's a good point and then and it's essentially like

also for Hishcock who had gotten the way he is because of aesthetic values that you know of course the guy you're just in him there's a bunch of fucking reasons why But, like, he's questioning himself, I think, a little bit in this. Like, being like, is this all that matters? And this, I also kind of think this is the comedy side to the coin that is the wrong man. Yeah.

Like, this is the comedy versus the drama that is the wrong man, which is my favorite Hitchcock. Oh, yeah. Oh, go ahead, Steve. No, no, I mean, watching this last time for the first time, it was just, I agree with everything you just said, Chris. And I do kind of agree with the movie star-ness of Carrie Grant and then reading today that Jimmy Stewart was super interested in the role. And I think I love Jimmy Stewart and Hitchcock movies, but I think that he would have given a little too much lived-in realness to it.

I think that, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not to see that Carrie Grant couldn't have done that, but Carrie Grant has this witty, charming, stylish thing, a lot of artifice that makes it much more believable in this character, much more engaging, entertaining in this movie because this movie is just a huge spectacle. Not just a huge spectacle. But this movie is a huge spectacle.

A self-aware spectacle. With Jimmy Stewart, you'd be more like preoccupied with whatever this guy's inner life is. Exactly. And the other thing too that makes it, you know, sort of like triply fascinating is that of course Carrie Grant is the perfect person for this because Carrie Grant in itself is a fake person.

His name was Archibald Leach. You know, he's born in England. And when he started coming up in Hollywood, would he learned to toss away most of that accent calling himself Carrie Grant. So like the whole notion of this guy Roger Thornhill that he's playing having to pretend

as an advertising executive who entices and fools people for a living has to go then and entice and fool people into thinking that he is this George Kaplan person. When in fact, you know, Carrie Grant spent his entire life convincing people in one way or another that he was Carrie Grant

and separating himself from Archie. It's so interesting. I keep thinking about Don Draper during this conversation. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely, man. Matthew Weiner has seen this movie for sure. Oh, yeah. But I do have the walk and talk. It's just like, call my mother, make sure this. And I mean, like, oh, said, and I mean, the sexuality, I was kind of surprised by the sexuality of this movie last thing.

A hot little picture. It's a hot little picture. I mean, he's just like, oh, yes, send a little thing to that Geraldine or whatever the hell, whatever piece, side pieces got is like, a little box of candies and, you know, a little sweet, nothing for her sweet. That's right. I'm eating bucks in this film. Can you believe it? Her sweet nothings and all her other sweet parts. Good God. You're right, Steve.

This dude's planning to eat ass tonight. He's going to go out to dinner with his mother. You're going to go to the Winter Garden Theater to see a play that we're told he's very much looking forward to. And then he's going to drop that old blue hair off at home and he's going to go eat ass. Do you mind if I ring you around 11 o'clock and start eating you out around 11 Is that all right? I don't need any hors d'oeuvres. We could just get right to it.

I'll start out the ass and work my way up to the pussy. We'll listen to AM Radio and Chill. That's what we're going to do. Send a note down to the concierge. A quarter past 11, I want to start eating your ass. Call them up and send a reminder. The Yankee game is an extra inning. We're going to listen to it and I'm going to eat your ass.

I'm going to be singing Minnie the Mucha into your favorite moucher. DiMaggio's at the plate. Yeah, but yeah, he does get picked up by these gould, honest to goodness goods. It's at the oak room. And it is very dandrapery, like, you know, old ad man stuff because they all have Manhattan's in front of them. And he's like, the guy, his contact is like, oh, you know, we're waiting for you, Thorne Hill. We always say that, you know, you don't start well, but you're always there to finish it. So it's like, this guy can fucking put him back.

Oh, dude, absolutely. He's got some other line, because they're sitting down, and he's like, one of the guys is like, oh, we're a little ahead of you there. Hope you don't mind. And he's like, oh, yeah, don't worry. That won't be for long. And I'm like, yeah, you're going to sit there. You're going to fucking pound booze with these guys.

Damn, that was the, I know it's like there's a problem. There's a lot of problems with this society. But the idea that we were just totally cool. Yeah, just go have three, four Manhattan's for lunch. We need to return. Well, yeah. What the hell? Why, you know?

Well, that's, I, I used to work for Brian Park, the lady I would work for was every fucking lunch. She would be like, yeah, I'm going to go have two Guinnesses. I'll be back. And she's like, I had a shot of Jameson this time. Not a problem. That was literally every time. Holy shit. So like she, yeah, it didn't change that much. But this scene is important because if you don't have this scene, I would at least believe that drinking a whole glass of bourbon is probably going to kill you. just straight up pouring like a whole fucking pure glass of it down your throat in one gulp. Yeah, I'm like, oh, he's dead. That's what

happened to him is he's dead. But they do, I mean, these dastardly fucks do something so evil to him and they drag them all the way out to Long Island that it's like, Jesus Christ. Well, it's Glenn Co. There goes my entire weekend. How the fuck am I going to get back from here? They're still in Nassau County. It's pretty close. Don't you people have a king still? Can I talk to him? Will he,

will he pardon me? I got to show my passport to go to Long Island. But yeah, man, what a fucking torturous thing. You're kidnapped and brought out to Long Island. They go to this huge estate. Jigsaw would do that, man. Jigsaw would not take you to Long Island. No.

Oh my God. No, I would never. I mean, that's like, you get out on the LIE, you get stuck in traffic. I mean, that's your whole night. Absolutely. When am I going to get to the torturing and the game playing? Honestly, I don't even go to Statt. I don't even fuck with Staten Island either.

Well, okay, let me, cards on the table here. Labor is pretty cheap out there. So I do, I make all my death machines out there. I do, I source them out out there. But other than that, I never go into the place. No, no, they ship back. Oh, yeah, I got a guy out on the island makes all my traps, insufferable islanders fans. but so yeah we're at this the thornwood estate and oh thornwood who is that where where are we oh what's going on here

townsend actually yeah oh townsend you're talking oh he's thornton excuse me yes a lot of names flying around townsend i drank that martini way too fast um i'm actually thinking about going leaving the podcast for a minute to get that bottle back over here i'll tell you why it's a little weird that you don't remember it's townsend because in the front of the house they have a fucking bill like almost a billboard of the name Townsend well that's how you show you got a lot of money dude

you got a big house and a big sign I kind of wish they had one of those for whoever the pervert was who owned the Eyeswhite Shut mansion like there's just like Cunningham in big lights as he walks up to the gate in the car him and the goons like you know the whole movie is just

you know all these bond moths from Carrie Grant they're all fun and great and you know like but the effect of this scene is basically him being like I am not a pilot and they them keep being like and I told you those you flyboys crack me up like literally I am not a spy I don't know who Kaplan is I can show you my idea

you know nope nope nope no you have to be this guy because you stood up at the same time when someone said his name has to be this is another thing too where it's like you know because he's a big advertising so and so if this were nowadays he'd be able to pull up on his phone some article from like, you know, fucking advertising weekly or whatever, him getting a Cleo award or something like that, you know. Yeah. And that, but like when you have, here,

here, here, I'll prove it to you. Here's my Instagram account. Oh, no, that's right. I'm ass eat at 96 on that. Apologies. Apologies. I'm clearly Roger Thorne Hill holding a Webby award. Not only did I win this Webby. I signed up for and nominated myself for it. I work entirely at nominating myself So it's Anyway so we're out on Long Island We're at the Townsend residents

And in comes Motherfucking James Mason Playing Philip Van Dam But at the moment he's pretending to be Or at least Kerry Grant Is making the assumption That he is Mr. Townsend Yes

Lester Townsend Yes and there's a lot more here Of like When I step up on your foot and say that I am not who you think I am, you know. Well, yeah, we're going to get into accent trouble here because James met,

oh, hello, that. Oh, yes. That's exactly what a spy would say. Exactly. Like, you can't fool me, man. These games must be. Interesting, Mr. Caplin, but everyone knows only a spy would

wear a gray suit. Many spies, you understand, have assy to accounts on Instagram as well. They're called burners, Mr. Thornhill. It is hard to be this good looking and wear these suits and not be assumed to be a spy. And obviously we should say this is a pre- James Bond, James Bond. I think the books were

out obviously, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But none of the movies would come out yet. So like this is very much in that kind of globe-trotting big time. Yeah, definitely. But it's almost more interesting the mistaken man thing. Because it's like, it's not guy that has all the all the answers he's just winging it you know it's truly a life threatening i'm not even supposed to be here today yeah that's the humor of it and like it's not globe trotting it's america trotting i mean it's just it's all in america but because we have these big set

pieces that we actually use like and actually take time to build up and deploy it feels that big it feels like something like james bond where you're going to fucking you know traded at tobago like shit like that. Oh, Mr. Thorneill, might you believe that a 55-year-old man such as yourself actually has dinner and theater tickets with his mother? It's a Friday night, sir. I don't buy that for a moment. She's a very entertaining gal. She's been with me since I was born, you understand. Is that right? But yeah, like basically, it's just this back and forth. Like, I'm not a spy. I don't know what you're talking about. We, you know, we know that Mr. Kaplan has stayed in this hotel and that hotel

and will soon be staying in Chicago and then moving on to what is it there South Dakota? South Dakota It's such a great thing where James Mason right here is like look we've been tracking you you know last week you were in this hotel and that hotel

and yeah like it is cool like he straight up tells you all the spots we're going to visit in the movie you know minutes and hours before we get to some of them I love this little bit of set up here. Yes, we're doing America trotting this time. All over

the, all over the great state's Long Island, South Dakota, the train station in Chicago. You know, I still love it. You know, and the, his whole monument thing, obviously Mount Rushmore and this, but like,

was it sabotage or saboteur that ended on the Statue of Liberty? Saboteur, I believe. That's another great one of a dude falling. Dude fucking eat shit off the fucking top of the Statue of Liberty. The cops and

what's her face? Kim Novak eat shit in vertigo. They fall from high structures. Yeah. Dude loved a good high fall. It's so good watching people fall off of buildings. I mean he was really

I mean, Hitchcock was master of many things but falling was definitely one of them. I do like that this whole thing hinges on Mr. Thornhead seems that Mr. Kaplan will be going to Pittsburgh tomorrow. I have never been to Pittsburgh in my life. And it's called a terrible towel because you wave it around. He's saying that he says that

Pittsburgh is one of the places he was in last week. And that's why he's like, I've never been to Pittsburgh. What a disgusting town. Fries on sandwiches, that's stew. Sign me up. Why would I eat a garbage plate? A plate of garbage. I wouldn't need a plate of garbage.

Oh, Mr. Thornhill, you're confusing Pittsburgh with Rochester again. They're so goddamn close. No matter where you serve it, I would eat a plate of garbage. I've never been near a steel factory. I never will go near a steel factory. I've never been to Pittsburgh. God damn it.

The hometown of Andy Warhola. Are you fucking kidding, man? I, but I love Landau kind of coming in here, creepy as all get out. Oh yeah, dude. Handsome as all get out as too. Let's be honest. It's a creepy handsome.

You know what I mean? It's a rare feat to pull it off, but he does do it. Well, and, you know, and it could have happened at some point early in his career. I'm not a, you know, a Landau head. I mean, I liked the guy, but did he ever play a vampire? Because he's looking like he could be a vampire in this

I mean, famously, he won one. Yeah, he's Bella Legosi, but that's... Well, no, no, no, no. Yeah, an actual blood sucker. Yeah, the real deal. Nosferratu. I don't believe so, but that is a missed opportunity. We should be made that.

We should have gotten one of those. I mean, I got the movie rolling here on the TV in the studio. And, like, I'm looking at him right now. That's a vampire face. Yes. It's vampire hair. It's a vampire face. And not for nothing, some vampire teeth.

Well, yeah, he is more of the Nosferatu type than the Dracula. type though. Yes. It's the long limbs that really do it and the eyes. It would have worked, I think. Yeah. So he refuses to give up the ghost because there is no ghost to give up. He doesn't know what the fuck these dudes are talking

about and James Mason is like, all right, have it your way, fine. And this is the pint of whiskey. The whole bottle down his throat. Oh, God. Oh, Mr. Thornhill. Okay, you won't give it up, Mr. Captain. That's fine. We are going to kill you in the most unorganized way

possible. We're just going to completely fuck it up, you understand. They really botch this, dude. Well, don't worry. We'll be botching it the entire film. That incredibly iconic cornfield sequence makes no sense in a way

of killing someone, yes, quite. There's not enough moving parts in this death fake. We have to pile on more, pile on more and more. Like they, so the plan is, is they're going to get him drunk, then drive two cars out to this winding and aim it. They have two cars.

They're going to put him drunk in one of them and like drive it halfway towards a big turn. I don't know where you're finding these fucking cliffy winding roads out on the island, by the way. And also, yeah, this is, I guess he must be a gardener and a secret guy because like a spy because he does gardening work later. but this guy also knows how to fake deaths on top of all that. I think his, well, what's the interesting thing about the gardener, later in the film when the professor's involved, he mentioned, or no, when Townsend at the UN says that the house was closed up, there was no one there but the gardener and his wife living there.

So the gardener and that woman, Anna, I suppose, maybe are the, are instrumental in this, but they were undercover working as a gardener and housekeeper. Yes, I guess, I guess maybe it's like a, yeah, they have those roles so that they know when the house is open so that Van Dam can come in and do his business or the other I think cooler notion is that they just fucking killed those people. Oh, that's great. Yeah. You know what I mean? Keeping up appearances. Yeah. Exactly. You need to know how to do a little bit of light gardening just to kind of, you know. And to be fair, all we see this motherfucker doing is just trimming some shit. I can pretend to trim

shit. Exactly. You couldn't fucking poison the guy and just leave him in the empty house. Yeah, I mean, I guess, what the fuck is wrong with you? It's also the 50s. Like how, you know, the autopsies were there, but I mean, like, you don't have to worry about DNA and shit. Just like, break this guy's neck, put him in the car and drive him off a cliff. Yep.

Yep. No, no, but of course, because it's a Hitchcock movie, of course, they have to fuck it up. But how thrilling is this sequence of him going down these windy roads? The soundtrack is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is just like, barely keeping awake, turning the car here and there. Dude, it's just, he's lucky that it's the late 50s and Roger Thornhill is so skilled at drunk

driving in the first place. Exactly. Oh, that's, I mean, we talk about movies you could not make today. You could not show drunk driving excellence of this sort. No way. In a movie like today you could not do it. It would have to end in tragedy. Yes, you'd have to hit the biker at the end, which he instead, the bicyclist

wherever, he stops just in time. Nice try, Mr. Van Dam. But you never have seen me after the company Christmas party. See you later, fuck face. He's doing K-turns. Watch me parallel park after a bottle of whiskey, you

arrogant fuck. You only gave me one bottle? I usually have one bottle plus a little stop down to the pharmacy to get some cocaine. My powers are only getting stronger, Van der. Keep throwing it at me, baby. I'll be invincible before dawn.

The other thing that's awesome, too, is that he comes to that complete stop doesn't hit the cyclist and then the cop rear ends him. Yes. No way you're making that today. So I guess well it's funny then that Jean-Luc Goddard doesn't like this because of hit in each other. I mean, come on. You would like it. That's true. I would think. You would think. You know what? I think that dead son of a bitch secretly like this movie.

Maybe he did. I mean, who does? He was just like, oh, car crash. I like car crash. They both, both you boys made good movies wherever you are in. Exactly. you both did good they became good friends in hell it's fine oh yeah it's fine it's good well goddard's only been dead for a few weeks and he's already making good friends in hell i like that i thought that was going to be a too soon but complimenting his social skills instead i like that no no no um yeah so he is arrested for this drunk driving i love this entire sequence in this fucking glen clove uh glencove police station him calling his mother and

And this is like, man, you're fucking 55, dude. You're calling mommy when you get arrested. Twice divorced and she knows all the, I guess, lawyers to call. I mean, I guess that's true. He doesn't have a put upon wife at the moment. And this is kind of a divorced guy's dream of adventure. Like, this is like, you meet this hot woman on a train and, like, you get mistaken for one of the coolest guys in the world, a spy. Like, I mean, like, that's honestly.

what divorce guys wish day the lives were worth. It's not fucking working to manage. They're not being the assistant manager at Burger King. They're fucking working, you know, out in the world. Yeah, man. Because, I mean, back in the day, you know, you had such a more of a formal society

where everyone's wearing these suits and stuff. Nowadays, a Burger King employee couldn't be mistaken for a spy. Well, no, I mean, although that would be if people are looking for a good reboot opportunity, I think the Burger King Corporation could take it. I keep telling you, I sizzle patties for a living. North by Northwest with cheese.

Yes, please. Yes, that's right. No, you got me mixed up with the other man. I'm wearing a Deadpool t-shirt, you see. He should be wearing a death stroke t-shirt. Yes, Mr. Thornhill, and the secret code word is supersized me. A door dash to George Kaplan with three monster energy drinks. And it's just to the wrong guys.

Like, oh, I need those so bad. I need a monster. Yes, mother, I told them that both superheroes wear masks. He does, yes. There's this whole, I love this, like, this test. They want to draw blood because he's so wasted, which is kind of, I guess. We don't do breathalizers, obviously, yet. No, we got the cop.

The cops drawn the fucking line on the floor. They're getting ready to do this old school. And I love where he's just like, doctor, I am gassed. he's also saying that we need to charge you know Mr. Townsend here with assault with a gun sports car and bourbon there's so many great little lines in this I'm not sure if we said already but there's the best light is

what he's like mother this is your son I drank a whole quart of whiskey no no chaser of course not no they didn't give me a chaser I thought that was so good which like you know what Martin Landau that would have been the considerate thing to dude, how about a glass of water on the side or even a fucking beer

you know what it? It's a bud heavy you know something just to calm the tummy down exactly you want this guy to drive off a cliff don't you? But also Chris to your point like him acting just with no one on the phone is one of the highlights of the movie for me

because this extends into like tomorrow morning and says Sue Sergeant Emil Klinger Emil? And then he's like no I didn't believe it either I was wondering, is that just because it's a, I assume it's a funny name, but I also, like, Emil's a German name. I was wondering if that was a thing. I think that might be it. Actually, that might be a reference because Long Island used to have a lot of Germans on it back in the day. Including the Long Island Hitler Hitler Hitler's, if I remember. Right. Yes. Yes. I believe there was even a whole like town that had like Hitler Strasser and shit way out east. So in a thing that only happens in the pictures, this dude. who was arrested for being the most wasted person on Long Island the night before is like, judge, trust me, just let me my mother and three cops go to this house and we'll prove

to you that I'm telling the truth. Fucking yeah, right. Well, it just seems not only that he's got a stolen car, you know what I mean? Like it's this thing where I'm kind of curious like at some point the mother says like, oh, just pay the $2 fine. And I know that she's being, you know, that's sort of more of a lucile blue how much is a banana cost kind of a joke but is it though I mean it's not fuck it's the late 50s dude and it's drunk driving which we did not care

about really and I mean that's the thing it's like they know he's wasted and it's like all right man the only reason we're really giving you guff this time is because that cop car ran into you if you didn't cause damage to our property it would be a hey rich looking white guys sleep this off

and walk home in the drunk tank yeah exactly I mean back at the time they had tickets for drunk driving. That's what you got. I mean, it wasn't, I don't even think you got. I think it was part of their book of tickets. They were just like, oh, a drunk driver. Here you go. $10, please.

Yeah, no, I, you know, I think now my grandfather told, I, I never met the man. This was a story passed down. There was some story about, I think it might have happened to a friend of his, but that means it's probably happened to him. Where you're driving drunk, you know, and then the Chicago police pull you over. You know, this is the 1950s, late 1950s. And what they do is, oh, yeah, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, drive your home move over. One of the officers will drive your car to your house and then we'll just be on our way. Good night, sir. Hong Kong. Yeah. Talk to you later. If you're the right color.

Exactly. That's being a white man in the 1950s. I'm not driving his car. No, no, no. That's not. No, no, no. I'm not getting in there. So he, he fucking debases himself back at this house and it's like, oh yeah, this is where they spilled all the whiskey all over the couch and the nose stain. Oh, they must have cleaned it. Well, this cabinet here, you see, this is where all the booze was kept the fullest bar you'll ever see in your life. And he opens that. There's just books everywhere. Which is funny

because it's a cabinet that shouldn't have books in it, right? No, exactly. I kind of want to see that Martin Land does. He'll be coming back and I'll have to make sure that none of the things that were here before are there. I'm going to moving things around for no reason. I'm going to call my contractor right now.

Exactly. Jack, can you come here right now I need to turn a bar into a library. Does anyone have a tied pen for this couch? But this performance by Mrs. Townsend, this fake Mrs. Townsend, pretty amazing. Oh, yeah. That we learn at the end of the movie is Van Dam, James Mason's character. It's his sister. Yeah. Because he's got that weird line. It was like, oh, by the way, tell my sister, she did such a good job portraying Mrs. And the whole thing of like, oh, Mr. Thorne, oh, you had such a good time at the party, but you got so, did you borrow Barbara's Mercedes? Yes. Now I didn't borrow Barbara's Mercedes.

I love the way they both say Mercedes in this movie. It's so good. And then, you know, like where can we find Mr. Townsend? Well, he's addressing the general assembly at the U.N. So he's addressing the general assembly. oh man yeah but so he now has his next task

like set out okay he's addressing the general assembly and when he's in or and also he learns also the Kaplan Kaplan quote unquote is staying back at the plaza so he goes back to the island or from the island

he gets back to the city and he and his mother go to the plaza and I love this like he's given his mother like 50 he's literally paying this woman not like give this other person this money I'm giving you it's I'm giving you this money mother to go

fucking like charm the attendant at the desk of the plaza hotel to get this room key it's amazing that he's bribing his mother to do it totally I want to see this lady turn on the sex appeal by the way by the way get this bell hop to start

smelling around I just did an inflation calculator $2,000 it's fun 500. $500. $50.50? Yeah, in 1959, $50 in 2022 is $509 in $98. Oh, my God, that is a bribe and a half. You hear that. So, Mother, you make sure he can sniff your cleavage, you know? Let him get real in there. I don't care, Mother. We need to do this. Let him get his nose down into that valley, Mother. Please, Mother. Yes, the woman who birthed me, Mother, will you let this man hit on you? The woman playing this mother character was named Jesse Royce Landis.

She was like six or seven years older than Carrie. Yeah, I mean, Carrie Grant is not like, this mother died the fucking Blitzkrieg, dude. Like, this is not. My mother learned the alphabet and then had me. It was a wonderful time. But she's your classic, like, you know, uptown, ooh, my, you know, kind of woman. It almost feels like they cast him last, but they didn't, obviously, right? But it's just he's sort of playing younger, right?

Or is he the same time? Yeah, okay. Yeah. I think he's 55 here or so? He is 55 or 56 when they're making this movie. And for the record, because unsurprisingly, it's not age appropriate. Even Marie Saint was around 35, so we're talking like a 20 year. Oh, interesting.

She's playing 26 in this, or at least so she she shes. Yes. character at least says that she's the whiskey, by the way. There you go. Yeah, oh, that's what that was. Got it. Yeah, it's been gone for a few. It's been gone for a few. Okay. I love the scene of them inspecting Kaplan's room and he's

fucking, like, talking shit about a fake person is so funny. He's like, my God, look at all the dandruff, this disgusting pig hat. Well, mother, it seems I have tried on this suit. Mother, it seems that this was a short king that we were looking. Well, he has a shorter man. He didn't have a...

He tries to try on Kaplan's suit in this room. And it is just a little boy's suit. Was fucking Danny DeVito playing Kaplan? Please. Get him in here. Well, no, he's probably very young. Hold on. These slacks are, the waist is 51 and the length is 26.

How does that make any sense? What is this, the penguin? Actually, like, who's a little tiny guy? Mickey Rooney could play. a Kaplan of Kaplan Oh yeah He's a he's kind of stout too Well he becomes stout

In 59 you might have been okay right No I think I think he was always small Well do I mean like he got fat Oh I see But like he's in some movies like what was it Quicksand was one of them One of those older movies And it's a little handsome little short

He was a handsome little short he was a short king Chris Mickey Mickey Mickey Carrie Grant What do you think about coming and working on a hitchcock movie And letting me make fun of you you'd be the short one and I would make fun of you. How about that? You play a guy named George Kaplan.

No, I also play him, but you're the bad George Kaplan. You're the worst of the two. You're the short one. How about that? Mickey? Mickey? Did you hang up? No, there's just a lot of like back and forth. He brings this maiden.

He's like, have you ever seen him? Have you ever seen Cablin? He's like, yes, I'm looking at him right now. He's like, no, no, you idiot. That's not what I'm saying. He sounds like such a crazy person in this. He's like, when did you meet me? Well, when you were opening the door just.

now, so it was right now when you met. It's right now, right now. What's happening now is happening now. And then he does it to like another fucking bellboy or something, because his other dude comes in and he's like, tell me something. When was the first time you laid those

gross eyes on my beautiful face? And he's like, uh, right now. And he's like, he's like saying something about like, oh well, I'm always sending my suits down and shit. What are you talking about? And he's like, well, you always just call and you say to go into the room and get it and you're never there. Like, This guy, I feel like the hotel staff has been squawking about this dude in this room for like weeks on end.

You know, how do we never see Kaplan? Did you see Kaplan? Oh, you went up to Kaplan's room? Was he there? No, yeah, I didn't see him either. This is weird. And the CIA just wasting money to get all these suits pressed for fucking no one. Exactly.

I mean, like we find out later like this whole decoy scenario and in a scene where everyone's just sitting around to a boardroom being like, Like, you want to do exposition? Yeah, we'll do exposition. And they got it done. And, but yeah, like, the rig over all of the suits, like, I don't know, man, maybe, do you think like that, you know, Leonard, Martin Landau was like, he didn't get his suits clean. He must be a fake person. Like, you know what I mean?

Maybe, I guess. Maybe that's the attention to detail. And it seemed like in those movies back then, everyone was getting their suits pressed whenever you went to a hotel. Well, Lester, he's a short guy. I think we should be looking for a Mickey Rooney type. is what we're looking for for George Kaplan. Yeah, no, no,

that's true. That's what's happening. Thornhill be damned. That's what they should be doing is killing every short person in that hotel. I'm all out. So, I mean, I love when they're going down. They're trying to fucking escape the hotel because someone calls up to the room

and it's like, are you? Oh, Kaplan, my, my, my. First, you're not a real person and now you're in your own hotel room. And he calls back down to the, the operator. And it turns out, uh-oh, the call was coming from inside the hotel. Yeah. They book it out.

And I love this fucking scene in the elevator because, like, they're trying to get on the one elevator. The goons get off. See them and immediately get on. And this dude's like breathing on Carrie Grant. And this mother, just with the fucking awkward, you gentlemen, aren't really trying to kill my son, are you? And then like the whole elevator car erupting in nervous laughter.

And he's like, well, all. right, mother. I won't be going to the Winter Garden Theater with you, but I'll definitely leave you alone for spies to murder. And he just like, he ditches his mother with these dudes who absolutely could cut her through. Well, wouldn't you? Totally. Now, mother, let me ask you something. Are you okay with them removing some of those fingernails? Because that's what's going to happen. What about those beautiful gold teeth? Do you like drinking water really fast? What have you had a t-shirt over your face, what you were doing? My dear boy, what's a t-shirt?

Oh, you know, mother, the American GIs are wearing them now. So brash. Mother, you know, a dish towel. Anything will work, you know, but just you're okay with that happening to you, right? I have to go. I have to go to the UN. By the way, he goes to the U.N. a cabby takes him

and this used to be something that a cabby used to have is the talent to get away from somebody. I'm being followed. Can you do something about it? Yes, I can. There used to be this talent. There used to be this talent in New York City and Chicago used to have this. We need to return. Guess what? Uber fucking blanketed it. It's gone. That's the thing

is you need that's why that medallion fee was so high Chris. It's to get the medallion needed to go all these, through all these different courses, it meant that these guys could lose the mafia. So what you're going to need to do is you got to meet your, you got to get your license, you got to pass your getaway course. That's in three week course.

And that's going to also include getting away from the cops in case they, I really got the money. You got to remember all 20 secret garages around the city where you can pull into in a moment's notice and get your cab painted a different problem. And then you come out and the stars are gone and you're free. Now, if it turns out a rich man happens to be a superhero, the flat fee is $200 for you to keep his secret

and let him change in the back of your vehicle. I mean, the other thing is, as far as like Uber and shit goes, man, there's plenty of times where I'm downtown or something and, you know, I could easily call, you know, just hail a cab. But a lot of those dudes ruined it for themselves because the amount of times I had to be like, you know, explaining where to go or like, no, you're going the wrong way, you got to go this way. Like, it got to a point where it was like if some motherfucker is driving me and the little computer's telling where to go, there's less of a chance I have to be New York City tour. That's very true. Recently, like a few months back, I tried to, I was like, you know what, I'm going to give those yellow cabs a real shot.

Like, yeah, I need to get back into that. Those are the real people here or whatever. And I did. it and he drove me completely in the opposite direction of where I was going. Okay. Guys, this is a problem. I mean, it's communication issue like usually. What you have to do is ask them, can you get away from the guy behind me? Can you get away from the car behind me?

That might be what was happening. I told him where to go and he was trying to lose a tail. So he went really out of the way to try to lose that tail. They won't know where you're going to end up going and neither will you. No, no. So he's looking for Townsend at the U.S.

we do have this fucking awesome guerrilla style establishing shot of Carrie Grant getting to the UN they were not allowed to film there and as the story goes Hitchcock got some sort of like laundry truck or like a plumbing truck

or something like that and they set up a camera inside it and they had Kerry Grant set up and it was like open the sliding door start rolling Carrie runs up the stairs and in the shot they fucking even got real UN security guards eat shit, folks.

It's great. I mean, you know, even in the U.N., I just love all this. The little cafeteria, wherever he stabs his student. No, totally one of two cafeterias in this movie. Fake stab. Well, oh, well, Eric, that's the problem. So they go into the United Nations. He's like, could you get me a Mr. Townsend, please? Could you please call him? And Mr. Townsend comes up.

And he's like, oh, what's this all about? You're me? Wait, no. Oh, you, you talk to another me? I'm not, what? I gotta say this guy, the guy, the real Townsend is really, really patient with this fucking well-dressed cooque, man. Because he's just like, are you, Mr. Townsend?

Yes, I am. The Townsend that lives at whatever address, Glenn Clove, Long Island, yes. Are you sure? Yes. well I was at your house last night my house has been boarded up I'm here in the city I've been in the city for the last month while we're in session uh-huh and what about your wife

and this is where he steps in it dude this guy's like it's very painful but my wife has been dead for years what the fuck is this about dude well I also don't believe that this motherfucker wouldn't hear like there's people in your house he's like it's those homeless people

I knew it I knew it we gotta get rid of all of them we have to get rid of them all there They've taken over my fucking house. I knew it. What a terrible way to die. Being, like, having a really confusing conversation and then having a knife thrown at your back. Like, totally.

You're dying. Like, what was that all about? It's awful, man, because it's like, what was that all about? Plus, did something happen to my house? Plus, oh, man, my wife's did. Like, just a fucking reminder that this dude's a widower on top of everything else. Well, he's going to meet his wife because we get the knife. chucking my god the knife chucking amazing i well that's i mean once he goes to hell he's gonna have

to ask satan specifically about what was going on with george claplin and all that shit i need to know yeah what my wife oh my wife's not here she's upstairs shit okay well yeah i worked for the united nations i probably should be here and here's the thing man you i've learned this a ton never if someone's got a knife in their back just don't touch it you know what i mean just leave it alone no you're not gonna you're not soon are you a doctor what a medical doctor leave it in there Immediately grabbed it and pulled it out and then turned around for some guy to take a press photo.

Oh, what a scoop. Dude, like, just talking about fucking that up, so hardcore. Well, that's, he, like, the guy falls over and, like, the way that Grant carries him, like, he falls over in Kerrigan's arms. Kerrigat gets him with one arm, and then the other one goes directly on the knife.

And I'm like, that's no way to support a dead man. I don't know what to tell you. It would be funny if his spine just completely ripped out of his body. The heart comes out through the back and he's on the knife. Like, oh, no, this looks like a bad tattoo. Flawless victory.

Roger Thorneux. Oh, man. Oh, no, mother. Now I'm going to have to fight Xerox or striko or whoever else weirdo they got down here in Outworld. No, mother. I wasn't

fighting a robot. Now, you listen here, Mr. Shao Khan. Oh, no, I'm fighting the Joker because we're both downloadable content of the new Mortal Kombat game. Oh, it's Prince Goro? I don't believe that. I'm sorry. I don't believe. Prince, no, I don't believe that.

All right, John Rambo, get ready to get fucked up. I'm going to fuck up this Vietnam Veterans Day. to rip out Jason for he's spy and I can't believe it so you spend your summers killing teenagers huh

how's that for you that's fantastic we just made a new version of that a horrible space jam movie so there you go it's all downloadable content just hanging out together well you know actually wait a minute

wait a minute can we make this work hang on a second this movie yes it would work this movie is now indeed under the ownership of Warner Bros as is Freddie Kruger and

fucking Jason Vorehees now post Part 8 that it left Paramount so you got Jason Voorhees now because Freddy versus Jason was all under new line you could do this Freddie versus Jason versus Roger Thorntill. It would work You know what they're going to do eventually

is because so many movies are becoming that Ready Player 1 mold we're going to eventually get like all of classic Hollywood in a movie together And that'll be the Oscar version of Space Jam or Ready Player 1. So it could be nominated for Best Animated Feature of the Year.

I'll be fucking Tarkin Town characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? The sad thing is, dude, I'd watch it. It sucks. You got to give it a spin. Of course. You want to see what all the scuttle butts about.

Exactly. So now he's really on the run. we go to Grand Central Station his his pictures everywhere and I just really love seeing Grand Central back here it's pretty fucking dope

Oh yeah But I'm actually It's Grand Central Terminal Not station Actually It's crazy looking at it And like save for obviously Like digital signage

So much of it still looks totally the same Yes I mean honestly It looks beautiful The clock the whole thing It looks better here. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, there's no fucking Apple store in it.

They didn't etch through the marble walls to put the Apple logo into Grand Central quite yet. That didn't happen yet. I'm not saying a Chipriani luncheonette there. Oh, I have a few minutes before my train. Why don't I get a tasty meal at the Michael Jordan Steakhouse? Which is gone now and now replaced by what Chris said. Oh, is Supriani replaced the Michael Jordan Steakhouse? I mean, I don't know if it's Shibriotti, but it's that caliber of like, that's what I want to do.

I want to spend $80 on a hamburger before I get my train. Boy, this sounds very convenient right here at the train station. Oh, what, it's terrible. Okay. Oh, the service. Oh, and then people are talking to me and being rude. $80 for a hamburger. And how much for the fries, 40?

Sure. I will. You know what? You guys, now I'll reveal. Now, this is a nice secret of Grand Central is. The oyster bar, you go in there. Don't go into the main oyster bar. There's a saloon area in the back that's like the old bastard bar version of the oyster bar.

And that is a refuge in all of that Grand Central garbage. It is a strange as it gets time tunnel where if you go into the oyster bar and yeah, it's back towards the bathroom. So you always see it if you go there. but it's this back room that is just the 1970s like late 60s into the 70s like there's honest to goodness wood paneling yes it's all like wood paneling

there's like fucking paintings of ships and shit and you can get you know a nice cocktail drink you know it's it's not bad option if you are riding the rails but he does this is a thing I never understand how this works he passes the train the guy who's taking his ticket

and the guy's like hey wait a minute where's ticket I need ticket you're supposed to have a ticket on this train and they cut to the next scene of him like running across the train and you don't hear anything that guy just disappeared into thin air he gave up i think i think what you don't see dude is like on the stairwell carry grant push that guy and he broke his neck on the stairs yeah yeah pure death that's how he was just easily able to get because you totally right this guy's like excuse me where you take where's your ticket and he man talk about a line that would not fly these days he's like oh uh i just have to get down on the

platform because I have some friends I need to see off. Yeah, full shit. That dude would be fucking tased immediately. I would also like, you know it's the night, he starts to wear these sunglasses as his big disguise. Yeah. It's the late 50s.

Put a hat on too. Yes. Yes. Obviously. And also like later in the movie he's shaving, don't shave. Do not shave. But if you don't to help you out. They'll probably just think he's like a hobo with a bindle then and he'll be arrested anyway. Let's just hang him.

Yes. You have to be clean shave it in 1959. Also, we need the shaving scene because that gives us a wonderful moment of Kerry Grant giving himself a reverse Hitler. Yes, he gives himself a reverse Hitler mustache in this movie and it is quite awkward. He's being, he's a funny guy in this movie. He's being quote unquote a funny guy. Well, you know what's, it's not too funny, but it is about as sexy as it gets

this fucking dinner with the two of them on the train. Yes. And now is this the most classy? movie to feature the Tappanzee Bridge in the background. I think it would almost have to be. Because they're in that dining car, which another thing is like that's right. I want to keep calling it the Tappancy

Bridge. God damn it, I won't be calling it the Andrew, the Cuomo Bridge. Thank you. I will always call it the Tappenzi Bridge. Dude, Eric, it's so crazy because your comment of that lined up with the shot on my television perfectly right now. I'm looking at that since destroyed bridge, but yes.

I talked to a good friend of mine, Eric Siska, who will always calls at Daddy's Bridge. And I think he's correct on that. That is his daddy's bridge. I want to go under my daddy's bridge. Carrie Grant is drinking this gimblet in this scene. And this is where I was watching this afternoon.

I've seen this movie like 30 times. But I was just like, how, man, what time is it? 130. Yeah, I can't be making a gin related drink that early. Well, he also should be. I mean, like, I know it was the time and having a martini

at 2 p.m. was having a diet coke at 2 p.m. now. But like, at this point, if I'm on the run and all this shit, I'd be like, you know what, maybe I put the Gibson down, maybe a get some trout in me, you know, feel it, heavy, you know, just to have that. You gotta take the edge off, Chris. I guess, yeah, maybe. He's about to get the shakes because it's lunchtime. It's lunchtime. You know what? I'm going to drink

and I'm fuck and I'm not going to worry about my well-being. Well, you know, advertising legend, Roger Thornehill is known for loving his martinis at the oak room. So what I'll do on this train to disguise myself is, one, put sunglasses on, of course. And two, order a gimlet. That's right. I'm going to shake my tail here

by changing out olives for cocktail onions. Also, could you give me the most ostentatious sunglasses that you have? I want everybody to see me. Listen, these are some fucking baller shades. Dude, I want these. Yes, they're very nice, but not for blending in. No, exactly.

Again, you get a fucking hat on there, man. Yes. But so, yeah, and they are having like a real human even very state. And again, I was surprised how sexy this gets. We are talking to, like, it's not like, I'm going to start fingering you in a second, but it's pretty close. It's wild, man. So he says to her, every time I see an attractive woman, I have to hide my desire to make love to her. To which she responds basically why bother hiding it

To which you can hear this character get a boner after she says that But then the crazy thing is if you watch so she has the line I never discuss love on an empty stomach The line, if you look at her If you look at Eva Marie Saint's mouth It doesn't match up Like she says you hear her say I'd never discuss love On an empty stomach

What was written and what she said initially, and it's in the shot is I never make love on an empty stomach and they made him fucking change it in a dub. I could see the, I could see why.

Yes. And then it's Carrie Grant fucking volleys right back, dude. But you've already eaten. Oh, yeah, dude. But you haven't. You know what I mean? So like get hungry.

Yeah, I only had a drink, had my gimblet here and a basket of bread. But let's go back to your room when I can eat ass. You know, you're totally right. Last night I was supposed to go to the Winter Garden Theater with my mother and then eat ass with my side piece.

But now that was totally disrupted by this whole spy plot. So let's go in your room and eat some ass. Yes, you don't make love on an empty stomach. Do you fuck? Do you fuck raw on an empty stomach? I could do that all day, honey. Would you fart in my mouth?

I meant a wind play. This is going to sound out of sorts, but could you kick me in the ribs while we'll have sex? Of course. No, no one would ever make love on an empty stomach. What about pegging? How does that sound? Oh, I peg before breakfast. Dude, I love it. But in that case, it would be good for me to have an empty stomach. So, let's go. I wouldn't want to vomit up this gimlet while you're pegging me. So, but like, they kind of go back and. it's very sexy, but oh, the police are

on board, are about to come on board, and this is when he hides. I mean, like, I have always, like, literally a bucketless thing for me, and it's surprisingly expensive is a sleeper car. I would love a sleeper car. I would love to do it. And here's the thing. To go across the country with it?

Yep. I would totally, I would do it. Or I would go to your house in a sleeper car. I don't give you a shit. I mean, honestly, I would love to, too. Like, not just my house, but, you know, just going to a nice trip in riding the rails. I love it whenever we

rode the Amtrak for tours and so. I mean, like, I love trains, man, and I would love to be able to do that. It's insane that trains are so expensive, especially because now they're so shitty. Like, you want

me to pay the equivalent of a fucking plane ticket for you to get on your disgusting-ass Amtrak car? Fuck you. There's something really really bunk about the train system. Look at these dining cars that they have in this movie versus what you have now, which is like, you know, a bag of peanuts or something. I was going to say, I have been in a super car before. And it's not, it was four bunks almost touching on either

side and like the narrowest area in between it. Like, yeah, something like this would be great if it was actually a private thing. But like, I think you have to pay like a lot nowadays to get a private. Now, most of the time, just for a four stall like that, it's like a normal, it's more than a normal train ticket. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be clickety clacking down the train tracks like it's a fucking hostile.

Like, sure. I'm only going to do it if I can have my own room. I don't need roommates, but like, it should just be more, uh, you know, ubiquitous in the United States than this. When we, when we did the, um, we did the channel trip. We went from England to France. And let me tell you,

that's the best train ride of my life. We had an actual meal, you were seated like you were fucking human beings and not cows? Like, it was wild. Oh, what's good here? Oh, let me get a really dry shitty chicken sandwich with some old mozzarella on it. And oh, yeah, I'll pay

extra $3 for a small bag of pretzels. Excellent. Oh, perfect. Just like I was hoping for it. The pretzels are stale. Do you have the full bouquet of Frito-Lay products or just the potato chips? I was going to

to say, it is nice just to have train footage. I like any movie with trains in it. I just like this as somewhere to be. And these conversations, by the way, these are shots in little like spaces. There's not a lot of action going on and yet I am still pulled

into that and it's because it's Hitchcock. Like he knows how to cut it. He knows how to hold on. He knows how to have performers say their lines in a way that actually draws you into what's happening with these two people. So at the point after when we actually get to Chicago, we do feel like they know each other a little bit.

And we do have... When they get to Chicago, they know each other quite well. On that note of insertion, Steve, this scene is one of the great Hitchcock getting around Hayes Code shit where they're making out

up against the wall of her train car. And they're rolling you know, they're standing up but they're like rolling along the wall and it simulates them being in bed but you couldn't have people laying in bed,

like laying fully down horizontally kissing, rolling around so this is Hitchcock being like, all right fuck it, you know, I can fuck standing up, why can't they? So like they're just rolling back and forth kissing, talking right here. Oh,

fuck standing up before the shot. We want to see it. my heart would explode in my body. The only way I could fuck standing up is if I could nail a woman's shoes to the floor so she doesn't move. Which he would do. I think he did that to what, Tipy Hendren.

I believe so. I only get hard when I am screaming at a woman that they're doing it wrong. Ah, yes. But so yeah, but yeah, I do love that cut. I also, there's just, and again, like, they're so blatant with this stuff to make this movie as sexy as possible

and it really, not that it helps the movie needs help but it makes the movie much more interesting that it would just be again like because this movie is just a cool fun romp in a lot of ways as a spectacle but there is so much psychology going on and other stuff because it's Hitchcock

and he can't help himself. Yeah. And I don't know man like if I was in the audience in 1959 watching this movie and she now I mean I still have it on here they're sitting on the bed making out so you can sit and do that right and like it's hot as hell like I can't imagine sitting in the theater

being like oh my god oh my god I've never seen anything like this I mean of course people had like when you know stunning stuff gentlemen's had hats back then to conceal their boners in public it's true I mean you take it off and you put it on it I love the idea of somebody being like

scandalized by this movie like they walk on that that shit should be a New York City in the middle of that shit hole in a porno theater is where they should show that shit I love him hiding in the foldaway bed too like when the porter comes

fucking hilarious and so she this is where we get a sense there's something going on here because she sends a note to the porter the porter walks down to another door says this is from the woman in 3901

and uh oh it's James Mason and Leonard Martin Landau on the train with them. Oh, oh, Leonard, do you hear them? I believe they're fucking. Well, the note that she writes is pretty much that, like, confirming that because she's, the note just says, what do I do with him

in the morning? Yeah, uh-huh. After I've fucking drained him dry. No, you see, Leonard, it makes sense because she's my girlfriend, you see, and she's trying to have sex with that spy. Oh, wait. It's sort of like when you have athletes, they don't nut before the big game, you see. So his balls will now be drained and he will advantage us. Our balls are full, you see.

Quite full, sir, quite full. I talked to a young man the other day and he said I was turning her out. I like that. I like the sound of that. Martin Landown's like, uh, excuse me, chief. I wish you'd told me this little speech about five minutes ago. I'm just going to be honest with you. I was in the bathroom for a really long time there.

I was, I was beaten off. The interesting thing is Landau played this character, at least to him as gay, like basically as a closet or just a homosexual man. And apparently that was one of the things the censors had the most problem with was like, because towards the end it becomes very obvious what's going on with these guys. Or what's going on with Landau, at least, whether or not Mason's into it is up for debate. But like, it's, it's another thing that I'm like, movie did not need this stuff and I'm so

glad it hasn't you know what I mean oh yeah and it's a setup for like all like I'm think of all the movies after this I mean the one that I think of all the time is the John Travolta Punisher with his number two being like well patent yeah like but

that that was in like all these movies so many Hollywood movies were just like the number two is always secretly in love with the number one and wants to have gay sex with them the gay coded Hollywood villain or whatever but like at the same time at least it's presenting a sexuality on screen

Oh yeah I think this one It's like everything else The first time it's done subtly It's done in a classy way Where you respect the character Landau is still a character here But like after this of course It becomes like

Mitten Press like it's just like Put it on an assembly line It's just whatever Amped up as much as you like That's true That's true But so whatever You think this

The performance turns into the realm of tastelessness? Not this. I'm saying the other gay villains in the future. They become more. Like, because they're like, well, how do we change? How do we do something new? Oh, I don't know. Make him like lick a picture of his boss or something. Well, and that's, that's what you get, speaking of James Bond

in Diamonds Are Forever with Bruce Bruce, uh, Bruce, uh, Bruce, uh, the fuck is that guy's name. Yeah, I'm afraid you're at a huge disadvantage, Mr. Bond. Bruce, uh, Glover. I'm licking your picture right now, cowboy. smuck some weed lick some pictures we were licking pictures with Nicholson up at poopies on the strip one time

Squeaky give me those pictures I was supposed to lick I'm gonna watch FBI and then watch and then I'm gonna watch you die Mr. Bond I love I love licking my pictures with squeaky it's just the best time of my day but the yeah so Bruce Glover and the other guy are very they're like very

odd like teahy childlike kind of it's very weird and not done at all right i mean it's like the end of that movie ends and bond's like see a later gay guys like it's it's fucking that it's that bad you know what i mean but you know speaking of hollywood legacies and all the scene when we get to chicago and he's dressed as the baggage man yeah like spielberg took this whole cloth in in raiders of the lost dark when he's looking for the when all the people are, when he's looking for the baskets. Yes. Like they're turning around all the porters.

Oh, yes, you're right. And it's sort of very similar to in Raiders when he's trying to find Marion who's hidden in a basket. Now that I've, now that I've fucked, I realized I should probably put on some sort of disguise. As opposed to dressing exactly as I always have, but walking around. I do my best thinking when I'm come drunk, you see. And it's also great that he insults her choice of baggage for his suit during this. I mean, oh, right, because he's like, where's the suit? And she's like, in the small case that's under your right arm.

And he's like, oh, well, I'm sure that's fucking great for the suit. Thanks a lot. Yeah, I'm sure it's fucking wrinkled. Hey, buddy, you're about to die. Maybe not. Who cares? Maybe. I'm going to be very wrinkled.

I'm going to have to get this suit pressed yet again. This is what he goes to the bathroom, and he does do his shaving bit. You know what I mean? And she's like, oh, you know what? I'll talk to Kaplan. You don't have to worry about it. I'll figure it out. And I'll set you up on a great meeting, hon.

Don't worry about it. I like this shot of the, we see Ava in the booth making the phone call, even the booth, making the phone call. And you just like, it tracks down to show Landau in the other booth. And like you get the whole idea of what's going on. another thing, another, I mean, like, I'm going to, I'm holding back on all the things I love about what Hitchcock does visually. But like, the red hat thing, the way he gets you to search the whole depth of the field in that scene is incredible, like, just by having this

little note of like, have them be red hats. Yeah. And just have it like, it's so fucking cool that that works like that. And then when, after they're done with the phone call, he does it again because Martin Landau goes out and talks to James Mason all the way in the back of the shot. way, way back in the shot before they're leaving. And you're watching that as you're watching Eve come into point of like, all right, I'm going to send this guy to die. Like, that's

essentially what I've been told to do is to send this guy to his death. Right, because she says like, all right, so this is what Kaplan told me, you're going to get on this bus and you've got to do a bus now, you know, so keep it secret. You're going to meet him at the prairie stop on Highway 41, an

hour and a half outside the city. And Landau's like, Landa's like, excellent, excellent. So then when he gets there, we'll have a man there with a gun and shoot him in the back of the head. Well, no, not quite, you see. Okay, so then we'll have a man

who puts him into a truck and then drives off a clip. No, we'll have a plane kind of swipe at him a couple of times. Like, he's King Kong. Is Steve Sadek, man who has seen this movie one time knocking the greatest action sequence in cinema?

Well, it's just, it's amazing. it makes from an actual trying to murder someone's standpoint and I'm not, it's not a Hong Kong plot hole. I'm having fun. This is what I do for a living. Sure. It's just, it's a little silly. And it's, it is amazing. It's that precursor to bond.

You know, I'm sure they probably read those books or whatever. But it's also in keeping with the fucking trying to kill him drunk driving thing. Like, they fuck it up every time. Exactly. Always fuck it up because they have to go big. And that's the thing is like people went missing all the time. Yes. There wasn't really DNA.

Like, you could have, you could have killed this guy regular style. And it would have been totally a fucking ditch would be fine. You know what existed at this time? Lie. You could just find lie. And people knew what you could do with it too. But this whole sequence is pretty cool because, like, this other guy shows up and you're like, oh my God, is this contact?

And he walks over to ask him, but he's just like this country gentleman. and that whole line of like, well, that's the strangest thing. That plane's dust and crops where there ain't no crops. Oh, yeah. And just to redeem myself a bit here, the tension is amazing. And like the way that this is laid out is incredible. It's just theatrical as hell. Yes, of course. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm just breaking your balls, Steve. I mean, the thing that I love is that, like, it is so this movie is ridiculously over the top. It ends with the characters crawling across the faces on Mount Rushmore. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. I love how big it gets because, like, yeah, the more grounded it gets, you know, the more, Chris, like you were saying, towards like a more like the wrong man. Didn't Peter Bogdanovich, I think, said that this was a fantasy film and the title

lets you know that because a compass does not go north by northwest. Oh. Yeah. A little peedy boy. That's my man. Yeah. And I love the escalation of the plane, too. right it's like the first time it kind of just like you know flies over it's just a pass second

time we get the pass with the gunfire you know third time even more gunfire and then eventually like slamming into this fucking but also i kind of just wants i want the pilot and the co-pilot this isn't working at all that's i i want to hear the whole discussion of where this came from like okay first try try to actually kill him with the propeller like try to actually do that oh if that doesn't work, shoot him. Just keep on trying to shoot him. If not, throw, fly the plane into an oil truck just to scare him, essentially. I love the one part that's kind of crafty in this scene when Kerry Grant's like, I'm going to, I'm going to hide in the cornfield. And then they do a pass and they can't find them. Then they come back around and they decide to crop dust it to get him out of the field. I thought that was a great touch. That's a good one. He cropped dusted me. He farted in front of me and then walked away. It's a good thing I'm going to. a wind play otherwise I'd be

very upset I like playing wind instruments too hey oh yeah but the explosion fucking rocks the miniature work all these little models

and shit and that's another thing this movie excels that you got these little models here for the explosion you got mad painting is galore

later on in the film you have rear projection all over the place every single car sequence and I love rear projection oh yeah for the reason they go big on this like I kind of get the the plan because like if they did get him with the propeller and you just were a regular cop in the middle of nowhere and you find a body hit with the propeller out of nowhere you wouldn't know that would be the fucking mystery of the century of that town like nobody would know what happened it would have made it into the UFO project blue book files it was either a bunch of bears it was either a bunch of bears or a plane came down from the

the sky and hit this guy head on. Well, it's like that fucking Soviet mystery from like the 50s, I think, where a bunch of hikers went off to try to cross this mountain pass. And then, like, they were all found much later, like, completely fucked up. And, like, some of them had, like, their eyes ripped out. Their bodies were crushed. And, like, nobody could figure out what was going on for decades. That's what this would be.

like podcasts would be written about it books would be written about it absolutely you know what it's funny now when you if someone gets murdered today your last thought is like god damn I hope I'm not a podcast you know yeah totally

and to be clear she would like the the name mixed up all this shit cereal would be all over the webbies would be all over this shit they would be like this is this is great true crime content we've got here today on the curious case of Roger Thornhill

we're dealing with Highway 41 Prairie Stop Yeah you know If you look at the angle Of the ambassador's back Someone threw that knife I don't think that he stabbed him in the back Someone threw that knife

I mean he was a handsome man He came up to the Grand Central Terminal He asked me for a ticket I almost gave it to him He had this way of talking that just drew you in But then I did call the cops on him Today we're examining the sleeper car

that Roger Thornehill used filled with cum, just blasted with cum everywhere. Obviously a sick man would have to have his initials rot on his matchbook to cover. Do-do. And it's a

Rot, by the way. What does he say at one point to her with that fucking, he's like, that's my motto, rot. Yeah, that's what I, whenever I get into a situation or something, and she's like, what's the O stand for? Nothing. awesome yes uh but so he he escapes and then it's going to take him i don't even know fucking

i you know i'm sure he you know he is still attracted to even where he's saying but i would murder this woman yes not not for the setting me up that i had to spend all day driving in it out of iowa fucking cornfield's fucking hitchhiking and god knows what else stole that dude's pickup truck with the fridge in the back which is an awesome detail dude it is such a great bit of like Just a single shot tells you everything you need to know, right? Because, yeah, he makes off with this pickup truck with his fridge tied in the back. Fucking hilarious. And then the very next shot is just cops in Chicago.

It's very much a Chicago skyline. And the fucking truck with the refrigerator is right there. And it's just the refrigerator is so important because it makes sure everybody gets it. You know what I mean? What should we do here, Captain? what should we do with the fridge? He's the only witness to that oil tank of blowing up. Bring the fridge in. Bring the fridge in for questioning.

Did those bystanders die? Yes, of course. The guy starts the death on the side of the road. He took that car. I think there's a thing when he goes to the ambassador hotel and she's in, he's in her room. He spies the newspaper really quickly and it's like too dead in plane plus gas truck accident. Well, that's just got to be the pilots maybe. The two truckers get out

Like get the fuck out of her I think there was just a guy It was like a pilot and a guy with the gun Because it wasn't like You know like a fighter jet Type of shot structure I feel like it was like a just a dude Shoot off the back or something

Yeah got it okay But so that's you know Now he's in her room and he knows That she's crooked And he wants to sort of see what she's up to So it's kind of like really sexy Fun cat and mouse thing And like she she's like afraid

of him but also still horny for him which is kind of fun well yeah she's working through her emotions Steve she's you know she's got a lot of complicated she's a spy herself it turns out so there's all these feelings bubbling up the surface here and she's super surprised to see him too because like he spies her in the lobby and

he's like so didn't meet up with your friend Kaplan and she's like oh he didn't show oh he knows that like he supposedly checked out of at 710 and she called him at 9.30. Well, he, uh, he runs a foul of the fucking absolute worst fucking hotel, uh, bell man I've ever met because like, let me talk to George Kaplan, please, like, oh, well, he checked out

at 710 this morning. Okay, what's that woman's name? What's her room number? Well, that's, uh, 415. Like, it's just like, dude, you've got to really got to fucking, like, ask this guy for ID. Also, he's wanted for murder everywhere. I, I don't need to hear her name. I know her name. It's Lying Trollope. What's that attractive woman's room number? And, you know, just give me a key. We're old friends. We're old friends.

You're totally right, especially because if he had to pay his mother back at the plaza in New York, you know, $500,22 to go and get the key for the Kaplan room, he should have some sort of like bribery thing here slipping this dude. He should eat his ass. I'm looking at it right now. He doesn't eat his ass, slip him 50 bucks. Slipping 50 bucks and eat his ass, whatever. But this motherfucker, yeah, just get, oh, here you go. Yep, this is the precise time someone I don't know that you know checked out. And then here's this woman's room number.

Oh, I don't know that you know her. Man, fucking, we think privacy's bad now. Holy shit. Oh, it's room, yep, it's room 463 there, sir. Do you need a gun? A knife of any sort? Would you need a, we do have nooses. We do have a couple, I don't know, plurals.

nieces? I don't know. Nees. Come on. That's what they used to call gallows before they came up with that term. Take them up to the nieces. We're going to, yeah, we're going to hang them at the nieces. With the nooses. With the noose at the nieces. The noose of the nieces, the nasces. So, yeah, they have this fun tete-a-tete where it's like, oh, you know, why don't you get your, you know, we'll have dinner. I'm not afraid of you. And you're not under anything. So what do you get your suit,

clean, though, of course, of course. That is the funniest thing. The conversation starts with things like, you know, just leave and stay away. She tells him, uh, there isn't going to be anything more between us, all this shit. And then he's like, all right, how about dinner? She's like, uh,

all right, fine. But let's spend even more time for you to get this suit clean. And the craziest part about this is, he's like, yes, how fast can you get a suit sponged and pressed? Oh, 20 minutes? Perfect. I was like, 20 minutes. it's this would be a thing where it's like I don't know man maybe tomorrow but so yeah

this is when you know he does the thing where like she's on the phone and you know she gets an address tears it out and goes he does the cool the boss maneuver of use the pencil to scratch it out which is so amazing in the big labas also the fake shower pro move including whistle you know I whistle while I shower so he's whistice singing in the rain, which is pretty cool. Yeah, totally faking that. And then she's also like, it's kind of funny because it's a double fuck you right here. Because he's like, all right, I'm going to lie to her about this shower.

And then she's going to lie about, like, she just ditches him right here. Like, I don't think she, like, he anticipates her running out. Is that right or no? I mean, I don't think he had to, he's like listening in on her. So he thinks she's going to do something. Right. But, like, yeah, I don't think. that was necessarily what he thought was going to happen

I will say we get a nice shot of these yellow boxers he's wearing they look very nice they look they look tailed with piss mother here's a good question and I mean like it's this fake shower thing you know he shaves in the the what do you call it there the

the train station he's not washing his balls this entire film and those motherfuckers got a stank he's got some sex stank on them I don't know if he's showering in the train or what oh yeah the balls are pickled at this point they're nice. People used to like that. That was like an alluring musk. Yeah, husk musk.

Husky musk. It smells like red wine vinegar down here. I am so horny. Oh, there it is. It's Kaplan again. I can tell it to him because his ball stink. Yes, I've been chasing this ball stink from hotel to hotel. James Mason lifts off the ground with his nose up in the air, sniffing the ball set all down. but yeah this is the auction scene which fucking rules it starts out

the three of them are there together and like he's like well look who's all here close together something out of Charles Adams oh yeah

Charles Adams couldn't have drawn it better fucking awesome I've never heard that before like I had subtitles on this time you know I was like you're doing it for the show

take notes even though it's one of my all time favorite movies but I was like wow the Charles Adams referenced in a

Hitchcock movie. Pretty cool. But yeah, so then, you know, everybody knows what's up. You know, we're all. And like, basically, they're, they're going to kill him right here. You know what I mean? It's, it's all fucking on the table. And he's really going at it. Like, oh, this cheap flusy, enjoy it, James Mason. Absolutely. And I'm fucking James Mason. It's kind of funny. Like, yes, it's two characters talking, but it's funny to have James Mason on camera criticizing Carrie Grant's performance.

Oh, yes. Because he's like, you know, I should say you've been overextending your hand here with a lot of these performances. First, you're the over-the-top ad executive. Oh, I didn't do it. You know, he's like making fun of him. And I was like, weird to hear this critique.

But this auction is fucking great. And this is where, like James Mason, we don't know it at the time, but he's bidding on the McGuffin of the film. We got some micro-fiche in a statue doesn't mean shit, which is why it's the McGuffin. I like it that is so far in, too. You don't even get like

it's just like near the end of this movie actually, you find out that there is even a muguffin. And fucking James Mason has Eve like by the back of her neck. Like this is, yeah. There's some more eroticism here that's not just train related, which I do like. No, it's fucked

up right here, man. Because yeah, that's going on. And then Kerry Grant, you know, like Steve said, is saying all that shit. And you know, he has a line like don't say it wasn't nice and it cuts to Eva Marie Saint and she's like completely tearing up. She's not crying but the waterworks are right

there which is pretty great she fucking gets out of there like stomps off and then this is Thornhill like trying to get out of this auction but like every place is surrounded like all the hoodlums and Landau are all around and everything

so he just starts heckling this fucking auctioneer which man whoa What boss move? What do you do? Bucket list move. How do we know it's not a fake? 13. No, 13 dollars, you fucking asshole.

Two cents. How about a ham puck? Oh, auctioneer. When is your mother coming on, sell? I'm just really curious. I'm trying to save my money for a piece of ass. But I'm sure she'll be cheap. There is a wild bit of slang here that I didn't.

understand and like I apologize if this is like offensively dated or whatever but he goes like the auction gets up to 2250 and he goes 2250 for that chromo yeah I don't know what that is chromo oh man I have no idea maybe that means crummy yeah maybe I had no clue you're right though these are some piss yellow boxer shorts just put that out there again because it's on the TV and it's kind of funny the auctioneer I mean it's played for comedy the auctioneer keeps giving him more than more inches than he possibly should because he's just like

it's just this you know it's I mean it's great comedy because it's just like well no 13 oh good now you're finally bidding right and he's like no $13 you fucking jackass and what's awesome is at first like you know there's the one lady who's like

why don't you shut your gross mouth and like all these people are kind of getting offended but then he wins over this crowd dude they're all fucking laughing like yeah that painting is a piece of shit. $13. Hey, this guy's right. He's a Joker. That's what

he is. Oh, and you know, I think that's what these stuffy art auctions need. They need a Rodney Dangerfield esque presence and Carrie Grants fill in the road. Definitely. You know, I think I just remember what that lady said, like, well, we know you're not a fake. You're a genuine idiot. That rules.

Well, because, like, I mean, the aesthetic thing, like, how do you break out of this, this aesthetic binds by cracking the veneer by like making tossing manners out of the making society a joke like completely turning chaotic and that's what he does to get out of this very

sticky situation right because now the cops will come and arrest him and he'll be safe but first he fucking nails this dude for no reason just to really make sure he gets arrested punches that poor fucker right in the face love it um and then I love he's getting he's getting

hauled out by the cops and the one goon is standing there and he goes Sorry, old man. Keep trying. I'm valuable property. I like that. And then the whole stuff in the police car is great, too. It's like, let's perk your spirits up, boys.

You just caught the U.N. killer. Oh, right. I'm a dangerous assassin. Bragging about you fellas did all right. Look who you captured. And then like the one cop driving the car has got a newspaper on the seat next to him. And he's like, uh, checks out. He's the moiterer.

What do you know, Jimmy? It's a murder we got here. Why don't you get a signature from them, just for the book? It's funny. I'm glad you told us because you're white. We were going to let you go at the next, you know, we were just put it on a good show for the auction house. We're going to drive you three blocks away and give you five bucks for cab fan.

Hey, honey, it was so wild. You know, today I picked up this white man and I was about to let him go, you know, but then all of a sudden it turned out he was a murderer. Do you believe that? Lucky he told me. I thought he was one of us. I thought he was one of the good ones. Turns out he's a murderer.

He's a murderer. So I did let him go. I asked him if he was a communist and he said no so I said he's on your good way sir I let him out of the car of course but I didn't give him the requisite $10 to get out of town and then they're taking him to an airport

instead of the police headquarters but I want to go to the police headquarters yeah because the cop calls in and he's like hey we caught this guy and it's a funny like what are you sure oh right like these dudes want to take this guy down

town they want to be the heroes of it all and then what happens is the professor has intercepted and it's like get to the fucking airport and I will meet you there and then here comes the professor with some more exposition here we Steve mentioned the quick scene in D.C.

where they are all talking and you they do have all this exposition about like you know Kaplan isn't a real person he's just a dupe that we created so that you know Van Dam and his goons didn't catch on to our actual agent that we have in, you know, in bed with them.

We do learn that detail. They do have someone on the inside. You don't know who it is at this point. I also love the line of like, Carrie Grant's like, what is this like, FBI, CIA, and the professors like, it's part of the alphabet soup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

We're all part of the same alphabets. Oh, just so long as you're not those wretched men in black. I'm those tired of alien. I've been, I've been neutralized up to here. here, mother. The amount of times I've had to do favors for Tony Shaloo.

You would not believe it. No, mother. The car didn't drive on the top of the Lincoln Tunnel. Oh, another squid baby was born. God. Damn it. Okay. Get the boys out there.

We have to kill it. Oh, the squid baby. And now some insect aliens out there in an Edgar suit. Oh, you should say the professor, by the way, played by a fella named Leo G. Carroll, who's in like

a fuck ton of Hitchcock movies. I like his presence. Oh, yeah, no, he's awesome. I believe it. Hitchcock seems to have, like, his stable. Like, this DP was, like, of most of Hitchcock's movies. Or a lot of them. He is the nicest CIA agent of all time. Because it's like, at a certain point, like, you know,

if the stakes are as high as this guy purports them to be, you just kind of have to kill Thornhill here. You know what I mean? like he knows a little too much he's a loose end and he's constantly trying to undermine your operation you just gotta get this guy get caught oh no he killed a murderer he did kill that guy

in the UN and now he's dead I killed him even even more so Steve you're totally right because in that DC meeting scene they're basically like the one lady is like hey so because someone says something like oh well what are we going to do about this and this lady

in the meeting is like uh nothing we're going to let them kill him. Yes. And the guy the professor, one of the other guys is like, well, it's not his fault. Like he walked into this whole thing. Like it's this totally like comic you know, but tragedy kind of thing where it's this wrong man situation.

It's a lot like an Alfred Hitchcock movie. This lady's just like, nah, it's probably safer if we let him die. And then there's some sort of line about like, well, Roger Thornhill, you know, it was nice. It's not it was nice knowing you, but it's something like that. So they have sort of already been

like, oh yeah, let him just die. But then he keeps not getting killed by these guys. They're like, all right, now we got to send the professor out here, because this guy's not getting moided. And now they level with him and they tell him, you know, that Philip Van Dam is an importer, exporter of government secrets. Of course.

He's thinking about stopping the importing solely on the exporting of those secrets. I'm actually studying architecture a little bit. I know a fine man who is in the business. he really he brought me up in the world no leonard i'm not going to do city planning architect is good enough uh but so you know this is they fly so we have to go to rapid city

because uh you know basically he he kind of he fucked up the relationship between uh james mason and even mary saint so it's like a thing where if this goes on she's either going to get murdered or cover's going to get blown or even worse she's just going to be like you know broken up with an out you know they're out their best asset there that's right and I love his

he's trying to tell the professor that he's like got to get home and he's like I have a mother two ex-wives and several bartenders that depend on me fucking awesome awesome line but yeah so rapid city South Dakota here we fucking come man we are in this

Mount Rushmore cafeteria here we are the third act of the film. Oh, man. And this is like, the cafeteria set, I'm pretty sure it was the same sound stage and part of the set of like the UN lunchroom and they just kind of redressed it a little bit. That makes sense. The outer part they get with a Carrie Grant looking through the, what are those things where you put the quarter in.

Oh, those like view finder. I love this scene where the CIA guy is like, see, it's your fault that you're being hunted. this because you're too hot. The thing is, is that you're just, I mean, how am I, I, I'm getting a little sweaty here just talking to you, sir. I got a little bit of what the boys call a chubby. That's what I got right now.

And I'm just talking to you like a man. Could you just stop being so hot, please? It is such a hilarious, casual conversation. Like the professor's like reading the newspaper on a bench, like, yeah, if you weren't such a fine piece of ass, my friend, none of this would have happened. Yeah, apparently you hit, let me just look in my notes here.

The back walls, it seems. See, oh, your problem here was she wasn't walking straight for a week. Come on. The girls at the office said that you had quite the body count. I misinterpreted that at first because of my business, of course. But God damn. You enjoyed talent, sir, and I appreciate that. so yeah we have this yeah we're setting up this whole thing

is everybody ready is this playing gonna work what I love is the professor tells him the plan as they're walking to the plane and the jet engine noise takes over the entire soundtrack and you cannot hear what they say which is fucking awesome which is so like perfect for this movie because it's all about information that you either have

or you don't have or you think you know or you think you don't know and just like the movie is deliberately fucking with you in that way. It's just so perfect. Yeah. Which is, it's so cool because you've spent the last like, you know, hour and 40 minutes at this point, you know, having a lot of the information, right? Like, we've known a lot of these sides and now the movie deliberately is like, okay, for the rest of this, you as the audience do not have this information anymore, which is fucking cool. It's cool as hell.

And she fake shoots him right here, which is great. this whole confrontation like he sits down with James Mason and he's like all right here's the deal if you give me even Marie saying I'm not gonna you know tell the government about your plans to leave the country but I want to make sure she gets everything that she has coming to her I love the he's like he's like I'm yeah I'm George Kaplan I'm a government agent and I will betray my government in order to get this lady I didn't like that I had sex with right it's also where we like for it kind of keys in uh because she shoots him and james mason is about to do something about it and lando's like you can't you can't it's it's it's not your place you can't get involved

like the first time you see this emotional connection between yeah like he wants to protect him and you know this gun going off there's a great little goof here uh some goofs and gaps in the movie when she fires the gun or she takes the gun out or it's like maybe right before I think it's right before she takes the gun out. If you look between the two of them in the background, there's a little kid sitting at a table who's been watching them the whole time

and you see the little kid he puts his fingers in his ears before she pulls the gun out but she hasn't fired it yet and the kid puts his fingers in his ears and there was a commentary thing where even Marie Saint said like oh I guess like he sat through so many takes

that we did of it that he was anticipating it It scared him, but, like, she's like, I don't know why they used that take. We did it a ton of times. Oh, look, I scared a child. Leave it in the film. More fear in the frame is good. No, no. He's a double agent, juicy.

He's in on it. You never know who's in on it. Kids Incorporated as part of the same alphabet soup. You know, after North by Northwest, I was going to. make what I would consider my masterpiece which was child assassins a bunch of child assassins who killed the great

stars of Hollywood Jimmy Stewart would be shot by a little blonde girl and it's so fucked up dude because years after Hitchcock passed away in 1980 they took that idea for child assassin and made it into baby geniuses and he doesn't have any credit at all you know they watered it right down

they made it They maimed. You know what? We've been dancing around it. I haven't really investigated it. But should we do an episode on baby geniuses? Yeah. Oh, yeah, sure.

One day we will. And the people, you weigh in. It would just be me and Eric screaming in like, like the dark side of the mood, Wizard of the Oz just screaming in different tones for for three hours. The true ending of child assassins was James Stewart, brawl out brawling with a four-year-old girl just throwing her into different entertainment centers

and credenzas and you wouldn't have had to worry because of course she'd be throwing a dummy across the set. I was such a fan of Village of the Damned because they suggested at the end of it that a bunch of children were killed and I thought that was just a pep. And when James Stewart is dead, they put his body in a trunk

and all the kids having a party over and now he's the one you see that's dead opposite rope rope two opposite rope it'd be so great

to me he was like morally bankrupt and did tons and tons of sequels like that yes the sequel to rope ipore

which I always wanted to put it on a marquee import um so Yeah, whatever. He gets shot and, you know, the professor comes over, of course, like, excuse me, I'm a doctor. And then, like, does the whole, like, nah, he didn't make it to, which Landau, like, sees that. And so it's like, okay, he's been pronounced dead or at least like,

they say something like critically wounded. Yes. Because I think they're getting the story. They get the story out so that they know, you know, Mason and company will hear that, like, oh, he's laid up in the hospital. He's not coming back after us or whatever. We get this really nice scene of Kerry Grant and Eva Marie saying in the woods like the ambulance pulls up the professor lets him out of the back lets him off the stretcher

and they get their nice like goodbye moment here and then it's like a like Kerry Grant being like well you could just get out of the game come with me darling we'll go back to Madison Avenue and then it's revealed uh oh even Marie is actually getting on the plane with Mason to go

you know over the iron curtain and that's a huge asset for them so she's going to do it you know yada yada yada yeah but it's a great I mean the two of them act the fuck out of the scene together they're so good she's awesome yeah the professor's getting pissed off he's laying on the horn which I love I love this other guy

that just ends the scene by punching him in the face or and more appropriately punching the audience in the face it's a good POV fist coming in the camera and this guy this guy's an interesting character man because he is a guy who I believe, you know, he's a guy working for the professor in the Alphabet Soup organization, but he's getting to pretend to be a park ranger for today's work.

Yeah. We're in a cool little uniform. I did appreciate the little ambulance from the Department of the Interior. It's cool. Yes. Yeah. Oh, is that what? It's set on the side of the car. Oh, nice. Oh, I missed that. So, uh, old man, old CIA alphabet suit man, uh, takes Carragant back to a hotel and he's going to get him back on a plane, I think. And he breaks out, of course, Kerry Grant breaks out. But I think, you know, it's, you know, we believe it's to save the day and everything. I think he's just tired of having to change clothes in front of this old man. He's had to do it for three days straight.

This old man's just sitting in his chair like, yeah, you're too hot. Why don't you take off your pants and put on new ones? Just out of me to be at a school here because, I mean, honestly, on the flight, I almost threw up a couple times. You're going to wash them balls anytime soon or what? I'll be honest with you. I'm enjoying the smell, but I don't think it's good for hygiene. He asked him for some bourbon.

And this old man's like, oh, this guy's so hot. I'm going to shoot my shot. Can I drink it with you? Yes. Can I get the bourbon and drink it with you? What do we just play cards or something? That'd be fun, right?

What do we play? Oh, fish. Are those boxers naturally yellow? Bridge! But how do you like light jazz? Oh, fuck. Well, we've already played Hit Me, so Blackjohn.

the movie the movie does answer the question about them balls though because it's it's not a hotel chris cabman it's a hospital that he's in and when they cut from him getting punched in the face he's in this hospital room and it is a shirtless carry grant just with this towel just that's wrapped around this waist that's right so he has washed the balls finally oh yes of course everything but the balls he put a shower cap over his genitals no no can't destroy the that red wine vinegar smell. Ah, but they're burning a little bit. I got the first batch of Dr. Bronner's peppermint, and it's really just, it's, it's, it's having a fire down there. Oh, man. The funniest part about the, the

whole bourbon thing, you know, because he's like, yeah, why don't you get me a pint of bourbon? And then he, yeah, like, Chris, you said, he's like, you're drinking with you? And then he's like, Carrie Grant's response is like, well, if you're drinking it with me, you better get a quart then.

because I'm drinking my own pint. Just to put the exclamation point on, like, Carrie Grant is hot. You go, he breaks out. He goes into the window, goes into another, the lady below him, her, uh,

sweet, I guess. Uh, and she's like, stop. Oh, stop. Yep.

Totally. She's like, I mean, like, dude, I get it. Carrie Grant is a piece of me. And he knows, sure.

I love his response to that, too, because it's like, ha, ha, Yeah, it's like a you wish. She's got glasses, too. He knows what's going on.

She has glasses. It means she's a dog because it's the 1950s. Totally. Not today, garbage face. There's a more attractive lady waiting for me. I have to go find her. Imagine me making it with a bookworm. Talk to you later, sweetheart.

It's only fair that women who have 20-20 vision have me because they can see me properly. Very good body. I only sleep with the ladies with. the glasses in the hawks pictures. See you later, honey. So we get out there to the Art Van der Leigh house, or the Frank Lloyd Wright House, excuse me. Which is a fucking beautiful.

Gorgeous house, gorgeous, gorgeous. Some of it is like a painting here and there, but it's fucking awesome. A lot of it's awesome. So great. And we're told, you know, he's like spying on them. He kind of climbs up and, you know, James Mason's there. with Landau. Landau says something about it. He's just heard from the pilot.

They're like 10 minutes out. You know, the plane's going to land. They're going to turn right around and escape the country. And the whole time this is where Landau is like, James Mason, can I talk to you in private for a second? Yeah, man. Your girlfriend is trash. I told you she was trash.

She's crooked. She's going to fuck us all. She'll be the death of us all. You're not going to bring her to Eastern Europe, are you? No. This is a run. where I kind, I know it's, it's all secrecy and we don't really, but like, I kind of need to know what James Mason, like, actually does. And like, to own a beautiful house, a miles walk from Mount Rushmore's top. That to me is a lot of, a lot more money than I, even I can. Well, I mean,

that is just insane Mount, I already sold some government secrets, right? I mean, the professor alludes to that, uh, what he's, what, um, uh, carry grants, like, well, if you're throwing this woman into danger, maybe you ought to start losing some Cold War, and it's like, well, we kind of already are. We're on it, Chief. Don't worry about it. We're taking a bath, dude. This Cold War is not going

well. Start learning Russian now, okay? Actually, you know, there's just one house up there. We have a whole suburban plan for the top of Mount Rushmore. There's going to be a lot of houses up there soon enough. Can I keep this between you and me? We're friends, right? That McCarthy guy is totally

right. Everybody's a communist. I believe everyone, everybody you can imagine as a communist. I'm going to make a lot of money like James Mason does selling government secrets in my favorite movie, Alfred Hitch Dix's Northern Exposure. It's a better doctor that goes to Alaska is in over his head. There's a fun moose in the opening,

and then he sells government secrets. And it turns out that he sells government. I mean, see, it's to the Saudis, folks. And he turns out to be the good guy. Interesting thing is he's a good guy. Listen, I declassified that statue weeks ago, okay? All I needed to do was think about declassifying that statue and all the microfilm inside of it, and it was declassified.

I'm pitching a new show to Fox right now. It's mind declassifier. And you see how many documents you could declassify you with your mind in 30 seconds. Look, it's written into the Declaration of Independence that presidents can declassify microfish by blinking their eyes. You just don't get any book.

You don't understand Morse code. I was doing it all in Morse code with my blinks. I'm sorry, you don't understand that. I was playing Morse code, four-dimensional chess, battleship, monopoly, obviously. Of course, I was doing it against these low IQ individuals who don't understand what it's like. to do Morse code deals

and you had to do that. You had to do that back in the 80s. Sir, that was a fax machine you're talking about. I do love... I know it wasn't. No, shut up. To make his point, Landau just fucking unloads on him and like the guy's like, oh fuck.

And the sense of betrayal there in Mason's eyes. It's fucking great. Like Leonard. Yes. Because they kind of, they do a great thing where they cut to him, Mason, standing like right in front of the camera. and he sort of reaches out and it's a very like

you know what's her face Janet Lee would do a very same reach out to the camera just the very next year in his next motion picture but right here James Mason isn't being murdered

in a shower so the gun is empty and he explains like I was just trying to show you that you know this was all a game well it's a crazy thing where he's like yeah it's an old Gestapo tactic you shoot one of

your own to scare them, except in this case freshened it up a little bit by using blanks. Have you ever heard of Project Gladiot? Have you ever heard of anything like that before? They did it all the time. James Mason punching Martin Landau in the face is great because Landau does a really great

like landing on the couch backwards. Like, oh, my face. There's also a great line. He's like, how do you know it's she's crooked? He's like, call it my woman's intuition, which is like a great like double entendre of like all the stuff that's going on between these two guys.

But again, like, it plays, like, it's a fun joke. You know what I mean? Like, you can read it either way you want. But obviously, there's a lot going on with that line. And it's, I would also toss out there, I mean, especially for, like, the late 50s, it's a line that, like, is not meant to be, like, condescending or hateful in any way. No, no, yeah, exactly. It's just sort of, like, yeah, it's, like, in the no kind of stuff. It's playful, I suppose.

Right. Playful like winky, winky, winky. Yeah, exactly. I love him writing the note on the matchbook. Like, they're going to kill you. I'm up in your room. Come find me for more information about how they'll kill you. And he tosses it down. Good little moment of suspense there when Leonard's walking right towards it and then just ends up picking it up and tossing it in the ashtray. Yeah, that's really great. Like, oh, fuck, is he going to see the, you know, the initials on it or whatever? Because he's got his rot, mad. book um and so he basically has been like look when we get eva marie saint over the ocean we're going to throw her out of the fucking plane which is great when they're saying that line the camera like goes upwards like he's like this has to be disposed of at a great height and the camera like cranes up on them pretty interesting i just want like let out that was like no listen you've been not listening to me the entire movie i'm going to shoot her in the head and we're going to throw her in the bay, and it's going to be

over with it. What if I set up a bunch of lasers and put it on a table and it was all automated, you see? He's fucking Christ with this guy. You're lucky you're handsome. You're lucky you're handsome. Don't worry about it, Leonard. What we're going to do is we're going to get the pilot drunk. And we're going to have him.

No, actually, we're going to get her drunk. You know what? Something. It's going to work out. Don't worry about it. Don't worry, Leonard. We're going to do what they do in the Tim Heidecker song, Donald Trump's private pilot. so yeah you know whatever she comes up

she sees the note she comes upstairs like that going to throw you out of the plane trust me on this you know they're on to you or whatever and she's she's basically just like well I don't know man I don't know what you want me to fucking do here I gotta go with this dude they're gonna murder me

I'm basically dead either way unless you intervene I guess right so she goes down there and then he's trying to like get down there to intervene and he is stopped by Anna, the house cleaner woman or whatever. Yes. What would you even call that? Like a butler or whatever.

She's like a maid. Yeah. It's a similar situation to the Long Island house because she also here is with her husband who's like going down and meeting the plane like on the runway. Yeah. And the husband and Leonard are going to come back and they'll dispose of Kerry Grant. Then she's got the gun drawn on him. but he realizes it's the fake gun.

So then we just get a shot of, you know, the exterior, like Matt painting of this house and him running out. You hear the gun shot and he gets in the car and drives down to pick her up. A lot happens in this few seconds. Yes, it does. A lot happens, including the biggest beef of the movie, right?

So Carrie Grant, you are in this huge, fucking built in Detroit American automobile and you're flying down the drive. way and there's this like kind of wooden gate with like a bike chain on it and like he gets out like he stops the car they get out and he's trying to like undo it no no no just go through smash through that shit is like just drive into into james mason and the plane i mean that would also be awesome but the gate is also holding back Jurassic Park as well can we say that it's a big fucking it is a big it's a big wooden gate but like i don't know man that car i think would cut right

through it. Oh, yeah. So she's got the, she grabs the, uh, the statue there, the McGuffin with the microfilm in it. Oh, yeah. And, uh, we are off to, oh no, it's the top of Mount Rushmore. And they're hot on our trails. So we're going to have to climb on to, like, this is where I'm dead. We say Steve Sedaq tells himself

in a horror movie. This is where I'm just like, well, the jig is up. I mean, you know what? Maybe I'll be a Soviet with you or something. Right. I mean, that's go. Oops. Well, she died, you see, because she just didn't have the upper body strength for the third act. Like, that would be me.

Yes. Well, that brings in mind a good question because I did write this note down. I was wondering it during the movie. So we all know about where we would stand with like when the heat is rising in a horror movie. But like, where would you guys stand

on if you found yourself in a wrong man situation? Are you going along with it? Is it like just arrest me, kill me? I would be like, someone please, please explain. I would try to explain it really casually, confidently and get murdered really quickly. Right. I feel like that's the thing because I would be so frustrated. Yes.

I would be, I don't know who the fuck you think I am, asshole. You know, and then I would be like, my throat would be cut. I definitely wouldn't make it this far. No way. Like, yeah, that's, I mean, current day, of course, you show somebody a phone. Bip-de-boop, you're done. But back in the day, of course, I mean, I have spent many a year looking like shit whenever I go out.

And I believe that this, this has a boy, this has made me a repellent to this. I see. If I go out and somebody's like, that guy's a sp, no, he's not. That's not a spy. A spy would not look like that. Is that a grease stain on his t-shirt? Oh, yeah, that's not a. Oh, yes, there it is, George Kaplan, the hobo killer of, but I don't see his.

Bindle, but everything else is, it's him, it's Kaplan. It's the smell, the hair, the clothes. I don't see the bindle, but, oh, what's that? Yes, he just picked up a half-smoked cigarette off the sidewalk. Yeah, now it's his. Yep, that's the guy.

No, no spy would ever wear sweatpants outside. Damn. Flipflops in New York City. The diseases, my God. I love She fucking like breaks a heel right here

And then for the rest of the movie She's barefoot on Mount Rushmore I mean you have to be It's a tiny woman on a giant man It's true A giant Teddy Roosevelt Finally It's my short story called

Step on me George Washington I love that the main dude from like the beginning of the movie, the main goon just fucking like off the top turnbuckle jumps on Carrie Grant with this and he's just, it's a real like, see ya tomorrow. Oh, dude, yeah. He just like fucking, fucking kicks this guy like immediately off the cliff. So good. His fall.

Oh, I love it. Yep. And Landau here doing the shitty move of like, you know, even Marie Saints hanging out by thread and Kerry Grant's trying to get her and then he does the whole like help me please help me and like Landau walks down like he's going to do it and then it's like uh oh

stepping on your foot which like totally it hurts stepping on your hand rather yeah excuse me like and yeah it hurts of course but also like Landau doing that it's kind of helping Carrie Grant stay up like I'd use that to my advantage a little bit you know

he's pinning him down in place absolutely he's not doing a stomp, you know what I mean? That's the move. You want to, you want to start stomping. Exactly, dude. Putting his foot on his, on his hand. And then you hear the gunshot and the great fucking shot of Landau's foot just slowly turning over and then the body collapses. And it's fucking awesome, man. We cut to like, who did it?

And we're at the top of the monument and the professor, it's like the professor, a couple of cops and Mason's there. And the professor's like, oh, you know, thanks. you know, investigator, good shot. Yeah, whatever. And then fucking Mason, just the last line James Mason has in the movie, he goes, that wasn't very sporting using real bullets. It's great.

Well, yes, you see, you understand everybody. The police and the CIA are actually good. They're good people. They don't abandon you and turn you over to the bad people at all. They're actually good people that save your ass. Now, let's all get laid. Well, look, dude, we already said it's a fantasy fact. Exactly.

I'm sorry, but it's also copaganda, okay? It's clearly copaganda. That's clearly what this is. It's a little Chris Cabin's takedown of North by Northwest. Oh, my God. Just copaganda in big, like, brick letters across the screen. Alfred Hitchcock, old fat boot liquor. Did you know that Alfred Hitchcock was a real problematic person?

Oh, my God. Oh, I guess he was. Yeah, he was. Turns out. Turns out. not for copaganda for other reasons someone's first day on the internet okay now this is such a great shot here where he's helping her up and then he pulls her up and then boom there she's she's being pulled into bed on the train yep you're there in you're still see we're fixed on

the mountain and you have this the awesome uh we call it an audio bridge where you just hear him go come along mrs thornhill and then it cuts we're in that train car instead of pulling her up the mountain, pulling her up onto the fold-out bed in another train. And then the train into the tunnel. Oh, yeah, dude. One of the most famous conclusion, concluding shots of all time. I just want to be very clear for the audience that this was about fucking the entire time. If there was ever any doubt that this was about ramming shit into other shit,

I wanted to alleviate that for the audience. It was about eating us, of course. That was the fun. That's North by Northwest, leads you to eating us. And you needed something that could do a ramming into something else, you see. So that's why we needed a locomotive, you see, into a tunnel and not necessarily a marshmallow going into a parking meter. It was unfortunate. The censors would allow me to reverse the film and then have the film go in and then out and then in.

and then out, and then you see a milk crate would break open. But that was the original ending of the film. We screened the In and Outcut at the New York Film Festival. The first one they ever had, and they booed for an hour. Oh, did they booed? They booed for the back and forth, and then they booed once again for the milk gag. The milk gag. man but that is the end of the movie that's what we go out on it's a fucking penetration joke it's incredible

very nice yep it is just so awesome love it man love it love it love it um we'll do some final thoughts and recommendations here and steve is uh the person who's seen it for the first time as an adult when you could really like appreciate it um thoughts and and final recommendations buddy i loved it i was blown away by it um you know i mean obviously in this movie has a ton of Hitchcock cultural touchstones that you knew when you were four years old because you either watch The Simpsons or fucking Muppet Babies.

You know what I mean? Right. Or you know what I mean? This has been referenced to death. So those references, it was really fascinating to just get the whole context and like really just settle in with this Carrie Grant performance. Like I said, like kind of up top.

I mean, aside from like all the incredible stuff that Hitchcock is doing with the camera and the color and the sexuality and the psychology and all that stuff that he always loves to do. Just watching, like, just sped it 2.15 with Carrie Grant. Just like, fucking being a movie star is kind of fantastic, honestly. I got no complaints here. I loved it.

Oh, man. It's so awesome to hear, like, a fresh take on the movie, man. It's why cinema's exciting. And you're totally right, Steve. Just encourage people to see stuff if they haven't seen it. Don't fucking make fun of people. Because then they will feel bad and they won't watch it. And you'll be denying them a great view.

Eric Cisca. Yeah, I love this movie. It's a great Hitchcock. I mean, there's so many great Hitchcocks, but this one has such a spring in its step. I find it a lot of fun. But I also want to recommend a maybe my favorite James Mason movie.

Yeah, my favorite James Mason movie. Oh, yeah. Bigger than life, the Nicholas Ray movie. You guys see this one? Didn't we see this together? I saw it film form at some point. Yeah, I think we saw us together. A little date boys.

it was great because Chris Cab would look like total shit I was smelling like shit I had the vinegar balls. That's how I knew to spot him but that movie's about he's like James Mason's a school teacher he's the lead in the movie and he starts having like chronic pain so he starts taking like experimental drugs and he starts to go fucking crazy. Supporting cast

Oh what? Yes. Incredible movie. It's it's an amazing movie. Oh shit. Up there with like shock corridor in terms of like insanity in a way. And Walter Matho, supporting cast members. So, great one to check out. Hitchcock, I mean, you know what to check out on Hitchcock. Yes, of course. That's right.

Christopher Cabin. Yeah, I mean, it speaks to Hitchcock's abilities. Like, this isn't even one of my favorite, like, Hitchcock's. And it's still like a four and a half out of five-star movie. It's just like everything is done so well. It's so entertaining on a basic level. Just everything he cares about everything. like that's what the interesting thing about the credits and all that while we talk about stuff like that is because like you use each part of the movie to make something new out of it like right the credits are cool because he thought of an idea him and uh saw boss and all they thought of ideas to put in there they weren't just like oh yeah well you know everybody knows it's a credits come on come on everybody it's a credit right right right but like everything is used here every shot is something interesting every shot is trying something a little new a little different i i really appreciate that stuff

stuff. And yeah, I love it. Great movie. Yeah, I, you know, I don't know that I'm going to say anything that any others here today haven't already said. I mean, this is, this was another, you know, sort of gateway movie for me, you know, coming up as a little, little cinephile. And, you know, I love it to death. And the funny thing is, I'm going to have to keep an eye out now, because I don't believe that I've ever seen this movie on the big screen. So the next time there's a rep screening around here, hopefully I can catch it. But yeah, love

the movie, love the movie, and loved talking about it today with you guys. But that is going to do it for this episode of We Love Movies. If you want more fine WHM-related programming, head over to Patreon.com slash we hate movies. We are just kicking off this W-LM month, I should say, which means that

the flip side is happening on Patreon instead of the monthly We Love Movies episode on there. It's a we hate movies episode, which is what again, Steve? It is Ridley Scott's Hannibal. Can you believe it? Oh.

Red, Roder, Red, with a Hannibal Lecter Roy. He made a right movie here. You're going to hear us talk about Gene Carlo Gennini and he fucking got that movie. Oh, dude,

a cinematic murder I still fucking wake up to sometimes. Yeah, so that's going on. We also have a full length feature presentation on animation damnation this month,

That's right. My wife, Jen, joins us to talk about a little movie called Nightmare Before Christmas, which is a fucking amazing film. We do a deep dive on that. It's a full-length episode. It's so much fun. We're talking to all sorts of Tim Burton and Henry Selleck goodness. Yeah, that was a great one. And on the Gleap Glouclery for We Love Movies Month, you know him, you love him. His name is Chubbacca. Oh, what a big get. Yes, he'll be joining us for the entire hour or half hour or half hour. however long it ends up being on Patreon. Now, it's going to be interesting, right? Because we'll have to talk about the two ends of, well, the one true end of Chewbacca and then the fake out end of Chewbacca.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. We'll be talking about the multiple deaths of Chewbacca. Oh, man, I'd watch that. And on the main feed here, We Love Movies Month is just getting going. Steve, what's on the free feed here next Tuesday? We're bringing back an old good friend of ours, Jamel Bowie, and we're talking about thief

of Michael Man's first picture if you could believe Great movie Great movie Great episode that we've already recorded which is why I was confused at the beginning of this episode But yes

A good friend Jamel stops by That was an awesome time Another one of you know All five of us are just in love With that movie So that's a really really great fun funny discussion Coming your way next week

So until then When we're breaking safes with Jimmy Khan I'm Andrew Jupin Steven Sadek Eric Siska Chris Haven. Take it easy.