We Hate Movies - S13 Ep642: The Royal Tenenbaums

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

On this episode, the gang chats about one of Wes Anderson’s best, the beloved family dramedy, The Royal Tenenbaums! How fantastic is all the storybook New York stuff? How many commercial V.O. gigs did this movie get Alec Baldwin? Don’t we all wish we had a javalina mounted in our house? Is “Wigwam” the worst Dylan song? How do you let a bird get kidnapped from your set? And wowza, how out-of-this-world are Anjelica Huston and Gene Hackman together? PLUS: A line of Owen Wilson movie-specific porno parodies? Sign us up!  The Royal Tenenbaums stars Gene Hackman, Anjelica Huston, Ben Stiller, Gwyneth Paltrow, Luke Wilson, Owen Wilson, Bill Murray, Seymour Cassel, Kumar Pallana, Alec Baldwin, and Danny Glover as Henry Sherman; directed by Wes Anderson. Catch the guys on the road now—SLC tonight (11/15) and Phoenix this Thursday (11/17)! Tickets on sale now! Check out the WHM Merch Store -- featuring new Crispy Critters, MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna? & Mortal Kombat designs! This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/whm and get on your way to being your best self. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

this week on the program. Break out your red Adidas track suits and get ready to smoke some cigarettes on the roof because we're talking the Royal Tenen Bounds. I'm Andrew Jupin. Oh, wow. It's Stephen Shadak. Eric Sisker. Chris Cabin as Chris Cabin. And we love movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Love Movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. We Love Movies Month continues. We're talking the Royal Tenenbams from 2000. one directed by Wes Anderson. Hell of a picture. Oh, yeah. It's great to, I'm happy that we were talking about the last Gene Hackman movie. There was no other movie after this. No other was

Chris. Shut your dirty fucking mouth, Steve. Shut your dirty fucking mouth. No, Mooseport. Mooseport. World Tenembaum bought the house at Mooseport. Royal Tiananbaum got into some sort of argument with Ray Romano.

Royal Tenbomb was the only one who did not love Ray. Yeah, I mean, there's movies to retire on, and then there's Welcome to Mooseport. And it is kind of just a nice, like, if you have his, you're looking at his filmography, and it's like the Royal Tenenbaum's asterisk end of career. You can keep on talking your smack. It ended with this, and that's how I'm going to believe it from now on.

Chris, I kind of admire the, you know, he, I'm going to do another picture. Yeah, you know, fuck this. And just. Immediately. Yeah. I mean, it's true. It's true that he's just like, didn't decide to start doing like Westerns for DirecTV or anything like that.

That's for better. At least he didn't do it an embarrassing cartoon like, uh, what's his name? Sean Connery, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, Mr. Bigsby's gold or whatever the world. Mr. Wilkie or, I don't know what the hell it was. I mean, that shit happens a lot. though to older stars, man.

Like, look fucking James Stewart's last on-screen performance is doing the voice of the cat sheriff and Fival goes west. I mean, fucking, that's more, that's more classy. Fival goes west. I mean, come on. Pachino and De Niro seemed to be landlocked

in a race to see who could have the worst one. Like, they really, you know what I mean? Like, you got to respect Hackman for fucking, you know, even though, yes, his last movie is Mooseport, he still did get out like fucking almost 20 years ago. He was like, you know what, dude? Yeah. And he's still, he's still alive. He's still

with us. He's just been, Gene Hackmaning. He's like, you know what? If I need something, I'll fucking go to the Lowe's Corporation. No big deal. I mean, totally. By the way, asterix, at the time of this recording, he is still alive. Yes, yes. He is still alive. And Jesus, this episode only comes out next month, man. And I fucking hope that all the facts in this episode stay the same. We hate movies news desk needs to have both stories ready to go. We're going to hit publish at the right time.

Eric has to keep his eye on all his death clocks. There are many of them. They're going at all times. It's like the different time zones in like the newsroom, Tokyo and all those. It turns out it's just the regular clock because people die every second. Gene Hackman, Jack Nicholson, he's got all the big ones up there ready to go. That'll be tough. I mean, Hackman will be tough, man.

What are you kidding me? No, that sounded sarcastic, but it wasn't. No, Nicholson, too. I'm going to be thumbed, man. They're going to be bad. And I guess most part isn't technically I guess you have to count

that what the one minute he was in diners, drive-ins and dives. Was he on there? There's some, you gotta go look it up. There was some, he was in the background.

Quite a sloppy steak sandwich guy. Something like that. Like he likes a local diner. All right, first of all, I mean, we will look it up. I'm sure someone's looking it up right now.

But let me say this, Chris Gapin, I don't have to count shit. What, you're not getting diners driving. So what you're saying, Guy Fierry over Ray Romano. You're saying,

wait, so Chris, you're saying there was an episode of Triple D where he just got accidentally picked up in the background? Chris is correct. No, he's in the foreground, at least one of the picture I'm looking at. He was in two episodes. I think they might have re-aired the segment. I guess the first one's called Big Breakfast from 2008. And then there's another one.

What's for Breakfast also from 2008? But he's uncredited in that one. Because he doesn't look like Gene Hackman. He's an older. he's a much older man now so like he looks older so you don't really notice it at first but then you look again and bam it's him eating breakfast so did the crew know that it was jean hackman well no yeah he's like with guy feary yeah okay he has a picture just oh my god yes this picture is glorious well i'm just curious if it was a thing maybe like they get in and they're doing like his first

intro and he was like we're rolling out to this new piece of shit place i'm gonna get diarrhea at and then like after one intro take he was like Wait a minute. Who's that kindly old man over there eating breakfast all alone trying to mind his own business? And then it was like we've stumbled upon Gene Hackman in this diner. Oh man, Gene Hackman, I got to tell you, I love Popeye. I love that movie Popeye. I think you're so good in it. Thank you so much for what you've done. I kind of want Wes Anderson to have to block and shoot Guy Fieri and like figure out the color palette. Like, I think he would have an annual.

You'd go, oh, you, geek! It would just fall over. Because, like, those colors do not appear in West Anderson movies. Flame red, dice. You know what I mean? But Diners Drive is and Dives sounds like a Wes Anderson title. It does. And actually, Guy Fieri kind of sounds like a West Anderson name a little bit.

Guy Fierre bought the house at 7 Arthur Avenue. Yeah. I could see it. In the Wes Anderson version, you'd wear like a blue leisure suit or something. Yeah. I mean, I can imagine. a mansion with like the flame decals like on the walls

everywhere that would be fucking dope oh yeah his his gochely decorated fucking house yeah absolutely um oh Steve you sent a oh Eric sent a pick in the chat no I'm just curious yeah you gotta see it it's good he looks great I would Hackman in this picture

he does yeah oh yeah there was a photo recently every time someone stumbles across him at like the five and dime in whatever like American and southwest town he lives in. And like, you know,

it's terrifying because one, it's like you see Gene Hackman trending and you're like, oh, fuck. And then you click on it. It's like, oh, someone else just ran into him. And there he is taking a nice, big-toothed, you know, smiling photo. Like, he's still happy as a pig and shit, man. And I got to say, I don't know, you look

at these guys like Pacino and De Niro still chugging out these movies. Like, yeah, okay, we got the Irishman. But like, at what cost? Look at these guys. they're fucking miserable they're miserable you're getting the joker you're getting fucking whatever else i mean like you know what i mean like even fucking simone was 20 years ago you know what i mean that that's true there's like the amount of like tired uh serial killer movies alpuccino was doing at one point i think he's kind of giving that up that hangman because i think those movies he's finally like kind of

too old to be like fake running around an alleyway you know what i mean yeah but i will say about him. He's got one of those crazy scarfs he's running around with these days. It looks great. That's true. I mean, Pacino looks great. Yeah. That's the thing. As I think, I can't really judge him because they both, both De Niro and Pacino seem like workaholics, like genuine.

Like, they cannot stop. Even if you wanted them to stop. Hackman was like, you know what? I fucking hate everybody I've ever worked with. I hate all of you people that was in Hollywood. I hate everything. I'm going to go away. Like, he is, that's awesome. Everybody puts Carpenter on the

top of like aging well as far as like your attitude towards age and your past work. I say Hackman hasn't beat by just a smidge because he doesn't have to constantly talk about the money. Like I love Carpenter. I love so much but I cannot I am done with the

fucking posting of the picture of like every time the fucking new Halloween comes out. Yeah. Check in the hand. I'm like it's cool. I love him but like Hackman's the one who's like fuck it all. I'm done. Because Hackman actually walked away. You know, Carpenter even though he's not like really active. He worked on what

he does the music. And he's, and then he's given these interviews. You could just say no. You know how many interviews I say no to? Oh my God. Zero. Did you say zero? Yes. I haven't. Lessed zero. Is there a less than zero?

Wait, I haven't heard of this magazine yet. This, yeah, this is an Alice's magazine. This was a huge one for me coming up. I just sort of like this because I had seen Rushmore. I liked it. I wound up liking Rushmore more as I got older, but like I liked Rushmore a lot, but I wasn't like super duper into it. But this was the one that I was like, oh, I want to watch all this guy's movies.

And yeah, this was the first one I saw in theaters too. I had seen Rushmore, I think precisely one time, and had not seen Bottle Rocket yet at this point. Which is also a great movie, by the way. I really enjoy that one as well. I came around to that as an adult. I wasn't crazy about it like in high school when I first saw it. but then I watched it maybe in like lockdown

or a little after lockdown was like, oh, this is actually really good. But Tenenbaum's hit me, I mean, in such a way that it was like you're seeing something like you haven't seen before on a big screen, which I think is different

than seeing something you haven't seen before just on VHS. Because it's not like I hadn't seen a Wes Anderson movie before, but I hadn't seen one on the big screen that had such an effect on me. I don't know.

It was one of those, oh, movies can do this and be this fucking weird and also a bunch of really good music on a soundtrack that I was like pretty much completely unaware of that was another big thing for me All the soundtracks for all these movies are fucking incredible So much kinks

Because this is a movie that like you know around the time I was still saying you know it's a good movie everybody The Boondock Saints and thankfully Somebody needed to come in with something actually good Oh yeah I think the thing with this movie was for me It was like for someone who had like Watch America Beauty was like that's good

Yay and then like I was like oh wait this is a little bit more interesting as a movie about families like this is kind of a corrective like this is more of the interesting interplay of what's going on in an actual family and to me it's i mean yes i had seen i don't i don't think i'd seen rushmore on the big screen but seeing this it's like the first time that his vision like anderson's like style really comes into clarity like yeah rushmore had a lot of it so did bottle rock it and to be clear like my least favorite West Anderson movies

which are probably Bottle Rocket and I Love Dogs I still think are good movies like I'll fight you on Isle of Dogs I'll fight you on Bottle Rocket. We can go outside and we can get the bare knuckles out and really go for it. I'll be on Chris Cabin's side fighting both of you. I'm ready to go I see what you're saying like because

in Bottle Rocket and Rushmore there's the you know eccentricities and shit but there's still like that real world around it and then once you get to hear it's a full formed world of that. And it's built specifically off of his use of

color, his use of editing specifically and the way he frames things usually through these literary devices, usually through a book or through something like that. And by the time you get to Grant Budapest, it's been firmed up and build on so much that like there's levels upon levels, upon levels

going on there. And like it's amazing to watch it just at this kind of chaotic first step here. Well, this is like the first one he's doing real dollhouse shit with. You know what I mean? Like really just like full on building out the dollhouse making sure everything is exactly where it needs to be. Even like little shots about like when I noticed it last night when Margo and Ritchie are laying down in the tent. There's the record player there, but there's also all of these.

If you look at the shot, there's all these little kids, little race cars all over that I've never seen before, which is so insane. I mean, look at the dollhouse stuff. And like now he's almost getting silly with it, even though I loved French Dispatch. French dispatch is so narratively dense And so dense at every single shot Where it's almost too much Even though again, I do love that movie But like that was

It was interesting to see him push it that far But here I think it's really contained And I think family stories are just always Going to get me the right way You know what I mean? Like any kind of large family thing Is always going to get me Because I come from a large family

Yeah, absolutely I do as well I didn't come from a family of geniuses By any stretch of the imagination And, you know, but If anyone from my family's listening, I was from a family of geniuses, yeah. A family without money is the one I keep on.

Yeah, so this is a family, both of geniuses and with copious amounts of money, as we see very early on in the prologue where the younger version of Ben Stiller's character, Chaz, just very nonchalantly, asks his mother for like $180 and she immediately writes a check to cash without even asking.

Not only that, write yourself the check and she'll sign it. So they have access to the checkbook, which is... You know, I mean, incredible. 180 bucks in like 1980. Like, wow. Must be fucking sweet, Kim. And this is QXR's

Alex, Alex Baldwin, by the way. Oh, absolutely. To the New York Philharmonic and the Royal Tenen bombs. this was uh i think the first time i'd ever heard him do any kind of narration was like absolutely you're good at this here's the thing world tennembound bought the house on archer avenue i would think this is the ship that like this this launches a thousand voiceover gigs for him yes it may well have been yeah uh for sure this was certainly the largest profile one i think

at that point um and steve like you said just about like you know these things being very literary. I mean, this book is quote unquote, Alec Baldwin reading to us more or less. What I love is when you're looking at each chapter, and it's kind of funny because there's only like six or seven chapters in the book or like six

six chapters and then like a prolog and an epilogue or something, but when you read, if you read the fake book page that's on the screen, the words are not prose, it's literally just like the script. Yeah. Yeah. Which is so fucking

cool yeah it's it's great and it's a nod towards like what happens in adaptation between like what happens between a script and the actual movie and like doing that and like it accounts for this dollhouse style he's doing which is firmed up since rushmore which is just it doesn't have any framing like that yeah it's just a story like potter rocket is whereas a lot of these since then are like this but the amount of like what do you want to call it there pathos and uh a character you get through this prologue alone of just watching these kids kind of grow up and again you are watching the dollhouse

like you're watching you know what they call it there Chaz's room with all the business stuff and like this is where his teletype is you know whatever his uh he started taking his coffee sitting up to save time or whatever that and then like just

every at every turn you're meeting what a shithead Royal Tadnebomb is and I fucking love it my god is one of the first ones when he with Chaz where he he's They're doing the BB gun fight, which also seems pretty dangerous. But I guess that's what they existed for, to begin with. Yeah, BB in the knuckle, getting the BB right in the knuckle.

But, like, kids were just shooting each other with BB guns. All the time. Yeah, that was normal. You're supposed to be shooting, like, cans and whatnot. I don't think you were supposed to be actually shooting each other. You'll shoot your eye, yeah. Well, yeah, you're supposed to use your Swiss Army knife just for, like, technical things and stuff. To remove BBs from the flash.

Yeah, so he gets the BB lodged in there because Royal decides to, which sides of this insane game. It's so awesome. I mean, all of these things are so fucking great. Like seeing their little, like, youth accomplishments. You know, like, Chaz also breeds the Dalmatian mice, which they say he sells to a store downtown in Little Tokyo, which we should say a thing that I love about this movie is it's such a fairy tale vision of New York City,

you know, to the point where it's so fit. I mean, we don't have a little Tokyo. We don't have a 375th street for where the Y is located. In this version, the access one, right? That's why there's a little bit. Yeah, totally. Well, it's a New York that's not about tourist stuff. It's an intimate New York.

It's about like what it's like to walk around in New York, especially in the neighborhoods that have houses, rather than the place with the screens and the shops. Which people are like this. We should say, I mean, there are families that are really, and sprawling beyond belief on the Upper West Side. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, they say Royal bought this at

35. Can you imagine buying this house at 305? Like, other than being a Getty, I cannot imagine buying this house. He put himself through law school, Chris. He probably waited extra tables on the weekend. That's right. Just a $1 million loan from his dad. But I do yeah, I mean, I do think, yeah, it's

all of this is fake. There's no Colby General Hospital, et cetera, et cetera. And like the, but you do, you know, a lifelong New Yorker like it feels more New York especially like autumn and like early winter in New York like all the vanilla lighting you're getting like these kind of amazing what do you call the tabloes of again like street level New York and like he specifically doesn't have any landmarks or even like we're not even looking up at skyscrapers it's all on the ground yeah yeah I mean it's like you can't that's what's cool like I mean Chris like you said it's

not for tourists it's like if you're trying to even look for something You can't. All the street signs are covered up and fake. You know what I mean? It's like Midtown doesn't exist in this world. Thank God. No. Seriously. I do want to. Chaz really got into breeding at nine years old and started watching Mice Fuck at age of 10. Oh, man. I mean, I love that he also dresses like a cartoon character. He's got like his little tie rotator. And you can see it's just like all the same tie. all the same shirts, all the same pants. Marco Tenenbaum awoke at 9 a.m. for her shift at the Disney store. Richie Tenenbaum was a bus boy

at the Times Square Hard Rock Cafe. Every weekend Royal would take them to the M&M store where they would gorge themselves on PILA M&M's. They would go to the Michael Jordan Steakhouse in Grand Central. Enjoy a T-Bone together.

Just the Oh, man, the New Yorkers, New York, man. That's what it's about. Absolutely. After a slice of Sabarro, they'd call it a day. Every Saturday night, Ethylene would take the family to eat at their favorite restaurant. The Times Square Olive Garden. Yes, Royal was very insisted that the children experienced the arts.

Watching Mrs. Doubtfire, Harry Potter plays and waitress on Saturdays. And coming soon. Back to the future on Broadway. Yeah, that's right. On Broadway. This is what they're doing while me and me and Julio down by the school. They're just going to all these different places. Oh, man.

I mean, I love all of Margo's stuff, you know, adopted it to this is my adopted daughter, Marco Tenderbell. I'm just constantly saying adopted. Oh, my God. That scene, it's going to be hard for me to say what my favorite scene is. The scene went after the play and they're like, what did you think? Did you like the characters? what characters? A bunch of kids in animal

costumes. He didn't find it very believable and shit. Don't be mad at me. It's just one man's opinion. Just the one man's opinion. The little girl is fantastic. She's like, I'm going to bed. And the birthday cake is coming out. What a great punchline that it's her birthday

saying this on. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah, that was her first play she ever wrote for her 11th birthday party. We're told, given a $50,000 Braverman grand. She put it in newt it. No, definitely not. They just put it on the fucking pile. Isn't it crazy that like Ethel Tenenbaum's writing these books about what genius is she's raising? And how you put so much pressure on these kids to succeed? They're never going to.

Oh, well, they're over. That's why they're all fucking burnouts in their mid-20s. They're over-schedged to shit. Did you see that? It's all hell. It's like my calendar right now. I got to tell you, though, I love that shot of the great Angelica Houston one of our finest you know it's supposed to be like the early 80s late 70s or something like that

and you know she's dressed like a 70s mom and she's in the phone booth making the appointments for like you know Chaz's like Italian language lessons or something like that and she's like juggling all the kids

it's such a great little composition of that life and sort of without Alec Baldwin you know yippin to you about like all the shit that they're up to you. You still glean like this is an incredibly active and overly active family. Yeah and they

don't they don't go zoom out too much to like the rest of like because you know fucking her neighbor, Ethel's neighbors and like her like society friends fucking hate her. Like if you publish

a book called Family of Geniuses everybody fucking hates you Because, oh, my kid, he fucking wrote a book about his, a play about his zebra yelling out a lion. She's a genius. And I do think that like, you know what I mean? Wes Anderson, I mean, I do think that there's going to be some divisive people in our comments. People who just hate Wes Anderson style and the whole thing. And I totally.

That's, I was about to say it's fine. But I mean, it's a thing where like, this is the dude's milieu. Like, he's just working in a, like, some people tell stories about. hard-scrabble street characters, and some people tell stories about rich, bougie fucks and how miserable it is to be a rich, bushy fuck. And I mean, like, again, literally growing up really close to poor, I don't feel isolated from that. Like, my growing up was nowhere near like this. However, I could relate to it through various other stuff. Like, I think all of the family dynamics are really good. You know, the shithead father, the whole thing. You know what I mean? There's a lot to, for a lot of people to relate to that don't have money in it. Bottle Rocket and in Rushmore, it's very focusing on poor characters. And then once you get here, he stops doing that, I guess. I mean, because this is, you know, his masterpiece, and I get that. But I do, and I know this while I'll get some booze now because I feel like

life aquatic is a fall off. Not that it's bad, but, and Darjeeling Limited, I just felt like we did not get these heights again, but we were still sticking around the rich people, whatever. Grand Budapest Hotel on the other hand I loved and French dispatch left me a little cold unfortunately But with both of those at least you can totally say Like while there are some

Of course Wealthy characters in those movies It's not a hardcore You know zeroing in on the difficult lives Of rich people Yeah no no no you know what I mean No no and that's the thing is that his style reflects Like yes I'm into this fancy shit

I'm like that's just me I'm sorry And like his movies do deal with class and like the only thing I I understand the criticism but it's not like I'm sure all those people who make these comments are went to see Maria full of grace the first weekend it came out and is really interested in all poor people cinema I'm sure they're really fucking into it I'm sure they're not just going to see fucking Marvel movies like the rest of the fucking hogs no no it's okay to like a movie it's okay to dislike a movie it is it is 100% but I find that so ridiculous, because it's not like, it's not like you pay attention to movies about poor people

anyway. Yeah, that's, that's true. That's true. But yeah, it's incredibly valid. And I'll just say also, Maria Full of Grace, tough, but very good movie. Good movie. Yeah. And this, Wes Anderson, for whatever false you have with them, at least it's an, it's a director with an, an American director with an actual vision that is still allowed to produce movies, make movies. Yeah. Yeah. That's very fucking true. You don't have a lot of these folks in this country anymore. We don't support arts that way. No, no, no. And I do love the opening. So, like, we do the whole prologue with all the kids stuff. And then, like, we, I think, I forget the line is something like all of that was shattered by decades of betrayal, uh, disappointment and

depression or whatever the hell the thing is. Really? Oh, actually, I found it. Good call. I wrote it down. Betrayal failure and disaster. And you get to see all these people grown up or in the top present timeline. I love that it's all people getting dressed again very dull house like you know what i mean like yeah perfectly framed shot of them in some incredible uh location or some incredibly specific location getting dressed and like royals is the absolute worst because his life is a fucking wreck yeah i it's so amazing that the beginning is so succinct and so fluid that it really does take till you see mordecai flying so you understand that hey jude is playing in the background like all of a sudden like it's the fucking beetles

I mean, I was like, what? This fact, okay, fine, great. Yeah, you're opening with the Beatles. That's, that's a pretty bold statement there, buddy. And then, yeah, I love this theatrical, like, showing the actors in the... Oh, yeah. I mean, it's great because the first title card you see is 22 years later. And then it runs through this whole cast, you know, and it gets the people out of the way that we've already met. So the Tenenbaum family. And then, yeah, expands to, like, Danny Glover and, you know, Bill Murray's character. And, you know, all of these other people that are going to be, you know, bouncing around here. But, yes, we're told that this whole story is getting kicked off because Royal finds out he's getting booted from the Lindbergh Palace Hotel. And is this opening? Is it a little like a magnificent Ambers since I've seen that? I know that's an influence on this film, but I do love that movie. Yeah, another, you know, movie about, you know, a family, a once-grade family's fall, you know. I don't recall if they do a opening

victory lap kind of credit thing in that movie It's entirely possible I might be thinking about the end credits Yeah I don't know for sure But there is a very similar Like the density of All the stuff he puts in frames Is very much Wellesian

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Like it's basically his son turned him in for like, you know, all the thievery and the fuckery and blah, blah, blah. There's that they see him, you see him in some sort of small court where it's just, uh, I, I just love the thing where Gene Hackman is fucking terrific in this movie. It's, it's a shot where it's something something and he stole bonds from my safe deposit. when I was 12 years old and then it just cut and Hackman is just in the frame and then he just does this like chuckle like like a sheepish chuckle because he's got nothing to say about it

come on judge I mean come out I mean you got to imagine Royal was hanging out with Roy Cone he was hanging out with Trump he was a litigator in the 80s I mean give me a break he was probably arrested outside of Club 54 I would imagine I mean I don't know where else you've been

Studio 54 yeah well maybe he associated with those dudes, but I'm not going to sit here for a second and hear you presume that he may have been on the flight logs. If he's a litigator, all those motherfuckers were fucking defense people.

Royal Teddibum on the flight logs. I fucking love that. Riding with Bill Clinton and shit. Hi, Kevin Spacey. I'm a huge fan. Oh, man. And, you know, speaking of like the literariness of it all, we are introduced to the adult

Eli Cash, of course, played by Owen Wilson, and him doing this book reading for his book, Old Custer, and you know, this is the great, and they wrote on into the frisculating dusk light. And it's the fucking, like, interview about like, everybody knows Custer

died a little bighorn, but what my book presupposes is, maybe didn't. This is just the fucking bottom of the barrel literary shit. Immediately on the phone with someone like, in your review, you said specifically not a genius. I was so

When he's talking to Bargo's like Why did he say I was specifically Not a genius And he's like Why you agree to that Really fans

Yeah Wow I think he's great in this Owen Wilson I will say I like the Darjeeling Limited Probably maybe more than a lot of people And I think that he's a real reason

To watch that movie He's really bad I need to go back To be fair to that movie Me too I saw it precisely One time in theaters And the fucking

Criterium Blu-ray has been sitting on the old Two-Watt show for quite a while. My initial response to that movie was just it got a little too rich person navel gazing but I need to re-evaluate like this. I think that movie does better with Indian culture than Temple of Doom?

Isle of Doe? Yeah, A. Yes. And B, Isle of Dogs does with Japanese culture. Oh, for sure. That is. Oh, there is, listen, all of my appreciation for that movie is in the stop motion animation. Yes. That's where it fucking ends. There's a lot of real ick in that movie.

And also, I will say, I have not gone back to that since theaters as well. Oh, and he did a fantastic Mr. Fox, right? Oh, that's a great one. I love that movie. But they're all poor in that. They're all fucking animals that live in the woods. They have the luxury of no money. They live under a tree, okay, people?

That's pretty tough, okay? Could you do that? Yeah, so, like, we find out that Margo is, sleeping with Eli Cash and you see Richie writing a letter or dictating a letter on some steamship that he's on because that's what his life is these days

jumping steamship to steamship man that is a solitary existence dude if you need to get some thinking done just hop some steamers for a while man also by the way a thing they're only letting fucking rich white people that's right I was about to say like it's good thing he gets off and transfers to the Queen Helena

back to the east coast because other he might have ended up in the triangle of sadness. Hello. Just Richie Tedham yaking it up. Oh my God, totally. He's getting fucking, it's coming out

both ends for him. Would you totally see in that movie, by the way? Love that. But yeah, so like, but the last thing he ends his letter with is I think I might be in love with Margo, stop. Which is, you know, great.

And Gwyneth Paltrow is phenomenal in this movie. She is, I think this is her best performance. Oh, I think so too. It's just, it's, she gets the catered so well. There's like a, like, I think that, you know, it's easy with Anderson to be like, oh, all the characters are so flat. They're just doing, you know,

saying things, you know, very monotonously and not, not the good ones and certainly not her. I think that there's so much energy and emotion behind so much of what she's saying and doing. Well, I mean, that's the thing with Gwyneth Paltrow is that she's always best when she

has a director. Like, fucking Fincher knows what to do with her. Anderson knows what to do with her. Whoever, I guess, whoever did Shakespeare in Love kind of knew what to do with her. But, like, once it's just her, like, it is just goop, I hear. That's all I hear. Her goop voice. Her goop voice. Can you do

an impression of that goop voice? There you go. There you go. That was John Madden, by the way. Not the famous deceased football coach, but the English director who did Shakespeare in Love, Best Exotic Marigold Hotel, Proof, Miss Sloan, all these movies you really want to see. Judy Dench is doing the best work of her life right now, okay?

Watch what's happening in front of the cameras. You got Ben Affleck coming over here, and you're going to have Joseph Fides, right up the middle, right up the middle, right? Then you're coming over here. You got the best exotic Marigold Hotel, and what's going to happen is Maggie Smith's going to run right up the middle and go, oh my God, Indian people. People are real people. That's the point of that film, Jim.

But Shakespeare, Love, you went right down to the end zone. Touchdown, Oscar, 26 years old. Winneth Paltrow. You'd rarely see it, folks, and couldn't really live up to anything after that. I guess family of genius right there. But they ignore old John Madden, of course. I have to go back to my old job at the NFL. Margot Tinemam is romantically involved with another young, rich, luminary,

Anthony Stark at the other end of New York City. Tony Stark's father bought the huge tower in the town of Manhattan, the age of 34. Royal Tennebo has been living 22 years in a hotel suite in the Avengers Tower. I don't like you dating that Stark guy. I knew his father. He ripped me off in a real estate scam, all right? Pagoda worked in the engine room of a one of those Avengers flying, uh, what, started, no, um, one of those flying battleships they have. yeah they got him uh i do love i think actually what

speaking of robert dyn jr would do well in a west anderson movie if he'd ever allow himself to do a movie no no it's kind of surprising you know here's here's my hope though right after his experience with chris smith making the documentary about his father i really hope something like clicked inside of him that was like oh i can add value to non-superhero movies again and like maybe he now will become a little more choosy, you know, he'll stop fucking things up, like almost starring in good shit and then not and just producing it instead. Oh yeah, next he'll be in a production of Pinocchio where he's played Jepetto and Pinocchio. Oh, God. You're right, Chris. The only

movies were allowed to make anymore for adults or Pinocchio movies. I don't know. That's what we did. By the way, by the way, by the way, he did want to do that. Oh, Jesus. You kids go to bed. Mommy and Daddy are going to stay up and watch Pinocchio. he gets wood. The R-rated Pinocchio. That Pinocchio, like it's because it's not so much like I want to be a real boy.

It's like this pervert Geppetto like making a sex doll in his own visage, his own likeness rather. And he impregnates it with his own life force one day and it comes to life. Oh man, Eric,

we're writing for Black Mirror now. That's what we're doing. Let's get it together. Anyone could write for Black Mirror. Yeah, we got a good premise here. um so you know the whole thing yeah he gets kicked out of the apartment that's already he gets kicked out of the apartment and everything uh or the hotel rather and so his whole scam is i'm going to you know crash with my my estranged family for a while because i'm totally fucking broke and the way i'm going to do this is a really unforgivable way i'm going to pretend that i'm dying i mean chas has already moved back home because he doesn't think that his apartment is safe. He's running crazy drills.

His wife died in a plane crash. Hilarious detail that the children were also there and the dog, and they all survived and she died. Yes. I also love the fact that for, like, everything else, like we've said, is very well-framed, you know, very, like, firm and, like, still. For the Chaz, as an adult, Ben Stiller with Ari and Uzi, he goes handheld for a little bit.

Yeah. To show how nervy is. how out of control he is since and he leaves fucking Buckley yeah what a bullshit fucking son of a bitch Wes Anderson it is cruelty to dogs I'll never get over it

bastard bastard but I gotta say also I mean I get it dude you're having a nervous breakdown because your wife died it's a really hard time this is out the other thing and not to knock Ethel's house man the Tenenbaum household

you know on Archer Avenue still looks pretty rad but this fucking like four story like West End Avenue apartment that Ben Stiller's running out of in this movie. Damn dude. That's a Patrick Baitman

kind of shit. This is a real house where Glenn Close could stock your family in. Well Andrew he has a preternatural understanding of international finance. Okay, that's how you get that house. Do you have a preternational understanding of international finance? I don't think so. I don't have a preternatural understanding

of fucking domestic finance, dude. As a child, he negotiated the purchase of his father's vacation home Oh, on Eagle Island That's right See Ari and Uzi Greed is good

And Ben Siller's I mean I'm gonna say Everybody's great This movie I do love So he moves in And there's a lot of stuff Of the Salinger

Influences on this Specifically the glass family stories And No more so than this scene Between Margo and her mother When she's at the bath And the mom comes in Yep. That's very Frannie and Zui as well,

which is also a class family story. I feel like Frannie and Zoe, like, fucking half that book takes place with someone sitting in a bathtub. Absolutely. Hot stuff, and your mom is watching you, dude. Oh, my God. I'll have to learn to read. But there's this great line that tells you so much about all these characters. Angelica Houston's like, you know,

Chaz moved back in because, you know, blah, blah, blah. He's going through a hard time. He's very depressed. And then, uh, Margaret, well, market goes, why is he allowed to do that? This idea that everybody wants to move back in and everybody wants to like recapture living at home in this incredibly creepy way.

And still speaking in that child way of like something being allowed or not. Also, yeah, I mean, also it hints that like she's fucking asked Ethelene this before and has possibly been turned down for some reason. And you'd want to fucking

move back with your parents too if you were married to Raleigh St. Clair and his fucking dude Dudley here, man. I love that the first real whiff of Bill Murray you get in this movie, he's basically doing like mental acuity tests on this kid, much like the first time you meet him in Ghostbusters. Where's that red one going to go?

How interesting. How bizarre. He's so delighted every time he finds out like more fucked up details about this kid's affliction. Yeah, he suffers from X, Y, Z, and even colorblind. He has an acute sense of hearing and has color violence.

He's three rooms away. And I mean, like, these are the kinds of jokes that West Anderson loves that I love, that have nothing to do with wealth or anything. They're just kind of zany. You know what I mean? It's like someone whispering in another room saying that someone has acute sense of hearing and color blindness. And the kid fucking four rooms away being like,

I'm not colorblind, am I? And he's like, yes, I'm afraid you are. Add that to the laundry list of, Dudley syndrome or whatever he's called it. All you have to do is meet Dudley to understand why this marriage is falling apart. Because Dudley clearly does, he has all these

very strange. A rally is writing a book on him. Dudley's world. We see it at the end. Dudley probably does not shower. He probably does not think that is necessary. He probably does not think that brushing your teeth. He thinks that's probably, it's overkill doing it every day. You probably only

have to do it once a month. Did you relate to this character? A hundred percent. because I've also ruined a hundred marriages because fucking scientists have been studying I didn't mean any of that well the cool thing too

it's a nice thing of like again just like the class talk here a little bit right is like she we're told she hasn't written a play in like seven years or something like that and she's living with Raleigh St. Clair in this

he's doing his research in the house like in the kitchen or whatever when Etheline like goes to pick her up and take her you know back to the Tenenbaum house you clearly see they live in some they live in a single family house as well but it's somewhere like you know LIC or you know far out in the boroughs Brooklyn or something yeah it is but it's still a nice place but it definitely you feel like I guess in the terms of like New York City sense that's like being in quite literally another island away like she's far from home there yeah yeah yeah totally

um yeah so it's this nice like all the kids back under the one roof i think alec baldwin tells us for the first time in 17 years oh man richie uh fucking guinith potra going to meet bargo going to meet richie at the bus station is like with uh these days uh kicking and like one of the best needle drops period like i i i one of my favorites to this day i it's such an elegant way and it's such a song that i'm not sure i could imagine it being used any other place and yeah it's just yeah and it's incredible and they do i mean like the movie never actually uh it is weird and which uh owen wilson says uh that your brother has a crush on you and it's weird and gross and even though they're adopted the movie never shies away that it's kind of weird and kind of gross it was just at the time it was just normal on the upper west side and we had the devious woody allen household on one side and then we had the tennembs on the other house allen and house Tenenbaum constant war

at one another That's why I find that to be a kind of a weird couple's costume TBQH Oh you Are we still seeing

those? Dude every Halloween you'll see Richie and Margo I feel They're like What

45 or 50 These couples? I think younger kids are finding this movie probably Listen here's the thing

It's not a couple's custom Here's the thing You can go As all three of the kids but you need a third. Yeah, that's a good move.

You know what I mean? It's not a couple's costume. If you can get someone in a red track suit, though... I mean, the real reason is it's an easy costume, right? Also that. Yeah, yeah, precisely. The tennis band, you know, a blazer or whatever. You know, you're done.

Yeah, and if you're just like screwing around with each other, maybe just be the Eli Cash and Margo. There you go. Yeah, that's fun. You don't have to do that. That's a thing. That's a harder costume, the fringe jacket and the hat. That's true.

It's more expensive, for sure. Dude, the fucking... That's a good. great Owen Wilson moment in this movie when Margo gets back to her bedroom after coming home and she goes in the room and fucking Owen Wilson

is in the closet and like she turns on the light and she's like I know you're there or whatever it is and he comes out like in tidy whiteies and he puts the cowboy hat on like hello beautiful looking like a total asshole I think Owen Wilson had to wear a wig in this movie for a lot

of it because he was still either filming reshoots or shoots of behind enemy lines. Oh, wow, really? Oh, Jesus. I didn't even tell. Yeah, because I think that's why he's wearing the hat a lot. Is that where he got the little scar too? Oh, possibly. Oh, yeah, he was behind enemy lines. Yeah, there you go. That's right. With Gene Hackman. Oh, yeah, Gene Hackman is in that movie, right?

I believe so. Is this texting some bitch going to be in all my movies? I'm retiring. I am retiring. I don't have to be in the same room with them, do I? Okay. That's what, that's what Gene Hackman was actually yelling in that one scene. He's like, I know you asshole. Yes. He's just yelling at Owen Wilson. He wasn't yelling at the character.

We should say, I mean, probably one of my favorite scenes in Wes Anderson history is Hackman telling Angelica Houston that he's going to die. It's so good. It's one shot and the way the two of them play off each other and, you know, he does it.

He's like, I'm dying, baby. And she's like crying. she's like what's the prognosis oh my god she gets to complete despair where's the doctor yes where's the doctor what did the doctor say what's the prognosis I just need a little time and she just goes

what's wrong with you and hits him so fucking hard and then walks away and then comes back into this shot because like no I am really dying he goes back and forth are you or aren't you yes oh man they have the times

where they get to just be alone. I think it's only really like twice that scene and then when they're walking in Central Park later which is another just beautiful moment but it's a beautiful moment in a royal tenenbound way where it's just like I'd like to thank you for

doing a great job raising our children by the way. It's just like all right man that is one way to say that oh I just love it but to get back to the Nico thing for a second I mean that was like the way that they set that up too is great because it's Richie like getting off the boat and Baldwin's

flapping his gums about like, you know, Richie arranged for his handler that he always had when he was on the pro tour to pick him up. And it's just as great as always, she was late. And then boom into the these days. And that was the first time I'd ever heard Nico.

I was first time I mean, ever heard her voice. I mean, you know, my folks did not listen to Velvet Underground, unfortunately. I had to find it myself. And so like that movie, I mean, that's why I said, too, the soundtrack was like so important to me. like finding all, you know, like Nick Drake and there's like

that terrible fucking Dylan Tud and wigwam is on the set, like so much stuff. But like this saw, you know, and it's so funny because so many, like, they even say it in the the Todd Haynes movie too, at the Velvet Underground they talk about like, oh yeah, Niko and blah blah, blah. She was so weird. She had this weird voice and it's like

I never in my life, until seeing that documentary thought that her voice was weird. I think she had this incredible voice, this beautiful fucking absolutely and just in this in this moment and just the slow mo and just the two of them and there's so much like she's saying shit to him and he's not responding it's kind of like han solo talking to chubacca in a way it's like it's like wheneth patro like says you know something about his hair his clothes or something like that and you know he's not saying

anything and she's still just carrying on the conversation like knowing what his answers are anyway. It's a great fucking moment. Yes. And also what's great about this moment is like when he gets off, he disembarks the ship and stuff and you see that giant goddamn ship. Wes Anderson gets this fucking crazy old bus out to be in this movie.

Everything is so well sourced. Yes. Yeah. And it's, it adds this air of weird timelessness, right? He's traveling into New York City on a huge fucking boat, right? And then this, he uses it throughout the whole movie,

but the quote unquote green line bus we don't have those here but like that's just yeah this old it looks like the bus they drive off the bridge in and fucking heart and soul. I mean it's important like that's to me is so important to what he creates and all these movies is the fact that like he

does take the moment to be like no I'm just I'm going to make a slightly fictional version of this but I'm going to put the effort in to show you it like I'm not just going like the fact that you see the covers of all these books that are talked stuff like that is to me is so important to what he's getting at

and the way of breaking up the visual the visual momentum of a movie without losing narrative momentum like actually moving the thing and the cover I mean you know tells you so much about when the book was published what the book is you know what the book is trying to speak to like you get so much

in that flash of what the cover is he's really insane about that I also love for talking about stuff the gypsy cabs oh yeah the gypsy cab company, which is a great joke of cabs without medallions in New York are called gypsy cab.

You have been, at least, you know, when I was growing up called gypsy cab. So much so. I remember first day of school, I think it was like 11 or something. My mom picked me up in a cab. I had all my, like all your brand new school stuff, your new school bag, your new books

the whole bit. And I left it in the car. Oh, yeah, you did. And, you know, didn't have a lot of money. my mom's upset, like, oh, my God, we're going to figure out how to do this thing. And I was like, oh, I got an idea. And I called information and I asked for the number of the gypsy cab company. I really, and it's like, you know, 15 years before this movie came out.

And that was actually a way to get out of trouble because she thought that was hilarious. So I was like, nice. Accidentally got out of trouble by that one. He was so cute. We're going to forget all this stuff that happened to us. Speaking of those cabs, that Dudley guy's got a good moment here with like this piece of shit. Like the thing, it's rusted out. It's got like a miss.

window. Like cardboard window or whatever. And Dudley's response is, that car's got a dent in it. There's another one. There's so many small jokes like that that are amazing. And there's amazing visual jokes too. Like when you know, Danny Glover is approaching Angelica Houston and we get the montage of her previous suitors is some of my favorite moments of the film, even though it's so brief. Just seeing the guy Franklin Benedict with like the eye patch or whatever. You know there's like,

each image of each guy is so like there's got to be such a ridiculous story to it and it's just another rich weird asshole like royal kind of right well yeah it's the frame tells you the story that's the thing with him is that the like the o's she uh all of them of franklinick benedict o'sima all those characters are like you see one shot of them and you're like oh i get it i get everything that happened with these guys one of them's like an arctic explorer or something i don't know there's another one later when And he, because, you know, Danny Glover asks for, you know, Ethylene's hand in marriage, you know, and he says, like, you know, I know I'm just an accountant and I worry I don't live up to, you know, some of your other suitors, like Admiral Cartwright is another one. I think it's right, right, but yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think you're right, yeah. That's what I love, too.

And it's also great because he mentions Franklin Benedict again. Yeah, I just love that that guy's resurfacing a few times. Oh, man. I mean, look, Glover's fantastic. talk about casting against type you know what i mean this is not a tough guy role this is not predator two dania glover it's very quiet he's he's a bubbling he's a bubbling nerd it's and it's like so sweet it's endearing yeah yes it is exactly it's there's so many moments i love that are just so fucking awesome with him you know like again the scene you know it's right after he says fucking

general cartwright or whatever like she's walking with him on this archaeological dig site which when you look at the background it is hilarious because like we we we do learn from the Baldwin prolog that like Ethel went on to become an archaeologist and she often helps out when like the city is digging a new spot for a building or something and it's just literally

an entire human skeleton in this fucking dig site that they're at. Just slowly like dusting it like it's a it's like ancient Rome or something totally and I just you know one of our dead. It's just one of our scores of dead in this town and uh it is funny though because Danny

lover's like walking after her and he falls in the fucking hole that's really great when he goes to read at the end and he gets his glasses out and the the ties like stuck to the glasses and she takes it off that's such a beautiful moment too well yeah the whole thing with him being when he's like well i know it's going to be rough with you and she's like you know i haven't been with a man yeah 18 years 18 years and i think isn't that where wigwam comes on i think yeah yeah it's just such a beautiful little like talking about sex and it's like it like still

has that excitement to it. It's like an innocent excitement about sex being rekindled rather than kiss. They're like kissing kind of sweet. It's not like making out. It's like he he kisses her once on the lips and then like on the cheek and they're like just legitimately excited that this is happening. It's so great. I mean look

I think that that's sort of something I think Tweed has used a lot at Anderson thrown like darts but I do think that like there is sexual lives in all of his movies like sex is very present like he doesn't have a lot of sex scenes or I don't even know maybe any

I'd have to scratch my brain there was that short hotel in shovel a shovelier yeah that at least that nudity I believe did it? There was some nudity there was new in this movie briefly yes my first job I had an office like everyone had offices

because it was a really small book publishing company and I had a buddy who was like in his mid-20s too and we're like Wes Anderson head loser's like oh the new West Anderson short movie came out he's like you want to watch it in my office I'm like absolutely so we close the door and we're just like it's going to be a Wes Anderson short

they're going to be eating tea cakes and it's like this incredibly this incredibly graphic sexual thing and we're like oh awesome I love Natalie Portman this is oh yeah she's kind of getting oh she's bruised too that's something boy

all right I will see you you at the meeting, sir. Talk to you soon. Did you then never speak to that man ever again? No, we were friends, but it was a very awkward moment. I love so, you know, Royal is at the house and he's like, you know, explaining, I want to spend some time with you. And he's like, I thought I'd start by taking you up to see your grandmother, you know, and there's the great, like, Marga's like, oh, I've never been up there, you know, I've never invited. I was never invited. And she's like, or he says, you know, well, she wasn't your real grandmother. I never knew

how much interest you had to whatever. It's so hilarious. And then it's fucking great because Luke Wilson, you know, is like, you know, Richie says oh, you know, and Rachel's buried there too. And fucking Royal Titanbaum goes,

who? My wife. We'll have to swing by her grave too. And the slam of the book. Swing by. The slam of the book and Stiller storming out. Stiller is like, he's good. Yeah, sustained rage in this movie is really fantastic

and necessary. Which is why he's the perfect person for that, you know, because like that little, the little curly-haired powder keg is like what that dude built his career on. And the, and like towards the end when he gets emotional with his father, it's and he breaks that facade. It's

it pays off. Yeah, it pays off big time. Incredibly powerful. Great. I got to say when they go to, they go to the, they go to the a grave site and nothing to me for I don't know why but nothing to me is funnier than Richie when the guy says

Bob! I remember that so well. I don't know why that was. Yeah, he points at him. He like, he curls his hand back. He's like, you all right. All right. All right. Like he's so excited to see the bomber. And that happens again too because the first seed when he's

the, the green light. Yeah, it just there's another guy's like, hey bomber. We got a picture. It's just I love that he's like this. he's a, he's like a Maconroe, dude. You'd stop the bomber in the street. Definitely a McEnroe type. Yeah. Because of his famous tennis meltdown.

Oh, God. That I think they show in this, this, uh, the trip to the cemetery. And it's just, you know, bad old TV footage of him just fucking losing it. And it's Wes Anderson and Andrew Wilson as the two like announcers or whatever. God damn, that's funny. It's so great them going back and forth. I've never seen.

anything like this, Jim. 72 unforced errors. I believe he's down to one sock. What is he looking to over there? I believe that's his sister. Margot Tenbaum with her new husband, Riley St. Clair.

They were married just yesterday, you know. That's right, Jim. Yes. It's just such a great exposition joke, a joke on exposition. Well, because you don't understand where it's going at first because the setup is Royal being like, what happened to you out there?

that day, Bomber. It's also a thing where he's telling his son, he lost a shit ton of money gambling on him. So it's like, this whole flashback is to answer the question and it's like, well, what happened to him was Margo got married, but it's all like that answer is at the

back end of this bodega filled with other jokes, you know? And I mean, he's got so, I feel like Wes Anderson, like, you know, Wells is a good comparison. There's a lot of Mel Brooksiness here too, like just the zaniness of these jokes. And like, the breaking of the fourth wall

he never actually breaks the fourth wall but he gets so close to it all the time yeah and I feel like if he were to do that it's a fridge too far you don't think you should do a Deadpool movie that might save the franchise oh finally

Wes Anderson is in the MCU we need some people to not be in the MCU that'd be fucking great so it's good that he isn't oh Lars von Trier is joined the MCU That's a day I'm waiting for right there

Well you should do it Because that's That's what would break It would be like You know what We're not making any more of these Tom 6 joins the MCU

Finally Eat her shit Iron Man That's right The human centipede Is now gonna be a villain Iron Man

and Captain America Yes They wanted to make A villain movie With the abomination So I make a movie About Abominations Oh that's great

Tom. Thank you. Thank you so much, Alex. Would you like to do some mocap for me? Oh, I'll have to get back to you on that. Oh, thank you so much. I got to tell you, I'm really sad because I just thought of a superhero Wes Anderson movie that I'd actually like and it would be good. And 10 people in the audience are going to get what I'm talking about. The Enlongated Man for DC is a bougie. Oh, boy, dude. Yes, you're right.

He can make his dick long. Yes, he's a Mr. Fantastic type. He's a stretchy guy, but he was a boogie detective with a very affluent wife. and they would go around and solve it mysteries that's a movie that's a Wes Anderson movie look for

I mean they're not looking for a new strategy because they're sinking but DC should do something like that that would be a smart move I think I love the scene

where Royal goes to the top of the Y where for whatever reason even you know he's obsessed with safety but Chaz is cool with his two sons Ari and Uzi

going with like the driver slash security guard or whatever like to this rooftop gym where they're working out. What's interesting is there's like a chain link fence around the gym so maybe it's like well they can't get out.

Didn't the UCB have one right up the street too right above that? Because a lot of those are like you know like schools like that's how they have you know physical education. It's like we can't go anywhere so the gym or the track or whatever

is like on the roof. So it's totally fine that this is in this movie. It's just weird that it's a scene where these kids are on their own, bodyguarder no, and Ben Stiller's not there. But it's this great, like, you know, he goes up to him, like, you know, do you know who I am?

You know, no, oh, I'm royal. I'm your grandfather. Oh, we thought you were dead. You know, all that. It's so great. He goes, actually the greatest line of the whole conversation is he's like, I'm sorry for your loss. Your mother was a terribly attractive woman. He is just so fucking funny. Apparently he was a huge, kind of a terror on set.

Oh, really? Not unfamiliar for Gene Hankman, really difficult to work with. He wanted this to be, he knew he had a couple performances left in him. He expected a fun, breezy set. And I think probably with the Wes Anderson movie, there's a lot of, you got to stand here, you got to do it this way, that kind of thing. And like, apparently, like, he would, like, really chew out West Anderson and Bill Murray, of all people, Mr. Not Difficult had to come in and kind of call Hackman

off a little bit. Wow. That's interesting. I'm sure everyone in Hollywood in any capacity is a fucking scum-sucking piece of shit. So just letting everyone know if we're praising someone for their performance in this movie, it's because the performance, not necessarily the content of their character. The only reason I came in with that is, I think that like it's actually almost a testament to how good he is. If he's having that difficult of a time, he looks like he's having a fucking blast. You know what I mean? Like, he's a great actor. Yeah, he's like he is. Well, also, like, having a blast or no, it's also like a great performance.

Like, he gets to all of these places. And like, you know, if you're an, you know, you can decide to turn it on or not. And it's like, shit, man, this is the best we got out of fucking Gene Hackman, like the star of this movie, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's, there's, I mean, there's literally too many instances for me to remember. I think of Bert Reynolds and P.T. Anderson all the time. But, like, that's another one where it's like, who cares what you got was great. Like, I'd be like, yeah, okay, you argue. People, collaborators argue and belittle each other all the time and then make up and make good stuff.

Chris, what are you going to make up with me? You belittal be quick. Well, we're going to when, I mean, we're supposed to do it yesterday, tomorrow, but like, I had this COVID issue. Tomorrow. Right, because yesterday was supposed to be my thing. Today is today. And then so tomorrow, Steve, you're to loop back to me, though, eventually. Okay.

That I just won't get one. It will down the line. we'll just check it off, you know, shell after shell. But it's, I love when he moves back in and, you know, he's in the hospital bed and he's got all this stuff and Chaz wants to throw him out. And he's like, come on, back your shit, let's go. Oh, right. This old guy on a hospital bed.

And then he falls over and he has like a fake seizure. Enter C. My favorite fucking joke in this movie. I literally stopped watching twice last night. and cackled. Seymour Cassell is this fake doctor. He's playing what do you call an elevator operator. Right. Dusty. Dusty, the elevator operator. He does he's like, he's giving like a prognosis to the family. He's like, well, you know,

you have to keep doing the, you have to keep eating, taking your stomach cancer medication. No name on that. But then he's doing this whole description of the family. Can we move him? Yeah. Is he a fighter? Oh, that's the best chance we got. And he gets a beef Like a doctor And he picks it up And the joke is It says

Hey Smitty worked a double Yesterday Can you cover for him? I fucking cackled last night The reprise of him being the doctor At the very end Not to get ahead of ourselves But when Richie gets an eye elbow

And he's giving medical advice At the very right It's so great And the way that Seymour Casals like flipping the responses back to them in that conversation. It's very Mark's brothers. It's very fast

you know, oh man, he's so fucking good. I also love every scene we get at Eli Cash's house which is a couple. You also get Eli, and this is a thing, you get Eli taking Margo on a ride to do

a fucking drug pickup and she doesn't know the score and it's like you got to tell someone. if they're on a pickup with you. This happened to me one time where I was getting a ride home from work with somebody and she was like, hey, do you mind if we pull over to this gas station? And I was like, it's your car, you're giving me the ride, whatever you got to do. Okay, we're sitting in this car and I'm like, so you're not getting gas.

What do you got to go in and get some Cheetos or something? She's like, no, no, I'm waiting for a friend. And I was like, okay. And then like some dude rolls up. I did not know this guy. And she's like, all right, hang on a second. She goes and, like, gets in his car for, like, 15 minutes. And I'm like, what the fuck was going on?

She gets back in the car. She's like, oh, I'm just buying some weed. I was like, you got to tell me if I'm on a drug deal with you. You know what I mean? Like, you got to say something. Especially bad thing. Yeah, exactly. And Margo's like, where are we going?

And he's like, oh, I just have to pick something up. And he's like, I love he buzzes the door. And it's like, who is it? Sugar, it's Eli. Well, I mean, Andrew, you say that's bad. but imagine that happened to you and the person next to you was telling you about how your brother

was in love with you. Yeah. I mean, it just was saying like, oh, your brother, I got a call from him saying your brother was in love with you. Always has been. Always will be. But it's okay because they always said adopted, you know. Adopted. Just like Woody Allen said about Sunni. Just like Brasers say. Well, yeah, it is very Brazzers, porn hubby, adopted stepbrother, step sister scenario.

This was a time. I mean, We're stepbrother and step sister. I guess we can fuck. Well, you know what's funny is Eli Cash? Owen Wilson, porn star. Oh, wow. He's around the house just as, you know, much as she was growing up. In a way, he's also a tenant bomb in the way that she is.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, totally. Yeah. I do like the scene of Luke and Owen. Like, so, like, Richie shows up at Eli's house, you know, and they're hanging out or whatever. And there's the great bubble where they cut to Owen Wilson's stand. there nothing is going on and he's like what'd you say

it's like what nothing I didn't say anything oh sorry I'm on mescaline I've been spaced out all day did you say you're on mescaline and then fucking dude Owen Wilson I did indeed he says I did indeed while he's peeing and the shot is blocked by

a mound of videotape pornography it's just just just showing you how this guy lives he is whizzing with the door and he has a fucking mountain of pornography on that TV. His art collection is awesome as hell. You know, these shirtless guys on ATVs wearing

like guerrilla masks terrorizing some guy. Oh, and whenever he's on screen, the clash kicks in, so I'm like, more Eli. He'll get Eli back on here. I believe here. And then later on, when he's doing Coke with, I guess, Egyptians. Oh, yes.

It's Rock the Casba for that one. Yes. It's a Toot and Common. Tutton Common. Oh, Tutton Crombin. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah, Owen Wilson pornography. You ready for my hot, hot load? Are you ready? Do you want to take this hot, hot load? That's where Wes, I mean, once the whole movie industry collapses, West Anderson should go to porn. I think Brazzers need some movies shot in the house. This was really nice molding. I got a title for one. Shanghai Poon. Well, you can't come on a thing you made. Eric, Eric. That's fair. the great boobapest hotel.

Yeah, okay. Behind enemy lines colon doggy style. Colin doggy style. You should also mention co-rider of the film. Yes, yeah. Oh, that's right.

The French DP. Yeah, the French DP is good. There it is. Bottle rocket you don't really need to change. No, you're good. Anaconda definitely keep that same. Yeah. Anaconda just totally works.

God, I'm really loving this Owen Wilson box. Oh, the Donging Limited. Yeah. Okay, Little Fockers, you could keep that one, too. Sure. You mean DePri is the three-way, obviously. Of course, yeah, that works. That works right there.

Getting drilled by Drillbit Taylor, I think is one. Oh, there you go. I spy some pussy across the way. Marley, Marley and me together. Poonlander Poonlander I don't know Poonlander part two

Yeah then Poonlander Poonlander 2 which nobody saw Turned the minus man into the plus man Because he gets you pregnant this time Oh there you go That was actually an okay movie If you guys haven't seen it Is that a serial killer right?

I've never seen that one Yes I believe What's the one where he It's kind of like him Do and Taken but his wife ain't kidnapped. There's a movie I don't know. In the last like five years or something it's own list of. Oh yes. No escape. No escape. Yes. No escape from

2015 which overshadowed no escape 1994 and you can't even search for that anymore. Thanks. You can't blanket it over. Thanks. Wedding fuckers. Yeah, he came back and they were like, let's just make him an action star. Like that and that Bliss movie he did with some heck. Starsky and cock. Oh, actually, Starsky and Kuck.

How about that? Oh, yeah, you're getting cuck, man. Hey, is this your wife? Oh, that's amazing. You guys have a beautiful relationship. You mind if I fuck your wife? Would you like to sit in the corner?

Hey, man, you could jerk off. No big deal. Oh, and just Loki porn parody. I mean, yeah, that's enough. You know, I'm looking at the IMDB for the minus man. You know, maybe it isn't good. I don't know. It's been a long time.

But so, yeah, he's got this huge drug problem. You know, yada, yada, yada. Now Royal is living in the house because he has stomach cancer, he can't be moved. Yet he's eating these cheeseburgers. He's still smoking cigarettes, taking cocktails. Oh, yeah. I love, there's the shot of,

I really love the Tenenbaum's games closet. Yes. They're like board game closet. And there's the shot of him in Pagoda. Like Pagoda's given him the update or whatever. and like cheeseburger smoking and the two of them are cheersing with martinis

in this closet. Oh man. It's such a great again like the details are just throw away like it's it's another piece of arrested development. You know what I mean? Like all these board games are there for children to play and children haven't lived in that house for 20 some odd years. You know what I mean? Like yes.

Yeah. Yeah. But they keep his Havillina in there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's part of the whole I mean, the give and take of all Anderson movies. I think since this essentially is like who who's who are the righteous ones is it is it the kids or the adults yeah right who are the ones who are like actually right here and that everybody's wrong and right at the same time like it's incredible i mean like that's what the weave of it is that sometimes the kids have the wisdom sometimes the adults have just like a real family you're

all garbage that's what was so kind of i mean moonrise kingdom was kind of a comeback for anderson just because it had been a while i think like it was his fantastic mr fox that maybe four or five years like a long break for him and then Moonrise came in and it was really interesting to watch him do a movie with predominantly with a kid cast I remember loving that one it's been a while but incredible movie

great great movie that was also it was a huge Moonrise was a huge box office return for him too. It was massive the whole Seymour Kissel showing up as the fake Dr. McClure by the way that scene also has the Ben still like

Gene Hackman has the fucking spoon in his mouth because he's pretending to be in pain which is great and it's the Ben Stiller line of like oh are you okay are you okay and it's the great takes the spoon out of his mouth the fuck you care and puts the spoon back in his mouth oh man the fuck you care

so great meanwhile Raleigh is just curious about what Margo is up to at some point you know he he comes by it's like you know how long you're going to be here and she's like I might never come back you know to me they have this really like pained exchange and this is what he

thinks that she might be having an affair and he goes up and it's kind of a great it's a great scene between him and Luke Wilson where Luke Wilson's take care of the bird and he just kind of like casually is like you know I think that she's having an affair and Luke Wilson just punches the glass it's like what you want to find the guy

you want to beat him up and he's like I think I was going to get a detective to see what's going on but it's the delivery from around that like may I confide in you. Yes. That always kills me. But it also said, I realize this last night, it sets up like the self-harm aspect.

You know what I mean? Like he's, this guy is not okay. You know what I mean? Like this, yeah. That scene does not come out of nowhere. Right. And you know, I think by now we also got that flashback of how she lost her finger. Um, oh yes. Totally. I think that was, um, Andrew Wilson again. Yeah. As, um, the, the farmer guy who, who, who cuts her finger off while she's stacking this log up. And speaking of Wes Anderson aesthetics, I love the look of this trucker hat with an Amish-style

beard. I want to see a Wes Anderson hillbilly, not necessarily hellbilly movie, but something like that. Well, because it's so great because, you know, it's, that's when they're, they're in the cemetery and she's talking with Ari and

Uzi and one of the kids like points out her wooden, you know, finger substitute there. And she tells the story. And she's like, I went and found my real family in Indiana is what she says. And I was like, okay, so I don't know how many Amish people are out there. But it is this weird like, he's like, all right, sister Margaret, line up the wood there, you know. Oh, man. And then it's great like, one of the kids is like, did you try to sew it back on?

She's just like, I didn't really see much point in that. Okay. It is a weird, you know, just having that beard and a truck around like a vest or something. It's very not Amish yet Amish. I just love that nether space he paints of Indiana. It's so awesome. Yeah. So like it's kind of going on and there's more, he's now in the house.

He's starting to fuck with Danny Glover a bit and getting in with Ethylene. Like there's, they're supposed to go out. And like, you know, Danny Glover is kind of like, I don't, I don't believe that your husband has this thing. And Ethel says no. And then the next scene is the great. it needs to be talked about because it's very this subtle bizarre

racism that he treats Henry Sherman with is very 70s specific kind of stuff and it's like it's very specific that it's it's he apologizes in front of the other movies like I don't you know I don't want you think I'm an asshole

I'm just think you're a son of a bitch you know what I mean like he's just trying to get this guy's head and it's very shitty but I mean I do think that Henry is a great character I love even his son later in the movie, too, is another great character. But I do love the scene when they're about to go at it. What he is like, did you just call me Coltrade? Oh, yeah.

Are you trying to steal my woman? Yeah. It's just fucking great. And then you want to talk some jive and just yelling that in the house. I'll talk to jive all day long. I'll talk jive like, you never heard. I think part of it, too, is his attempt to like make Henry look bad in front of Ethel. Because Ethel comes in right here and it's like, what's going on?

here. Yes. You know, and it's like nothing. Good earlier exchange with Richie and Royal where he asked if he's if Henry's like worth a damn and Richie's I believe so. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Totally. At this point also

we've had the nice montage of Royal getting to know the grandparents or the grandchildren rather. And this is the me and Julio down by the schoolyard. And it's a lot of really awesome like jumping in the pool with your clothes on. Okay. You know, Balloons. Okay. Dog fighting. The dog fighting is great. The shoplifting is great, too, with the chocolate milk.

Right. Playing go-kart in what looks like an abandoned, like underpass, like something underneath the highway. Yeah, it's definitely an off-books go-kart facility, dude. And he comes, one of the kids come back and he has blood on. It's like, oh, it's dog's blood. Can I speak to you? Yeah. And, you know, again, West End is smart. We're not showing dog fighting. We're watching people watch dog fighting. So it's a little more fun and light in that way. Even though Wes Anderson, as we know,

famous dog hater and killer. A lot of dog trauma in this. He just wants to murder dogs. That's what you're fine. Well, look, he's a graduate. You know, there's extensive cat trauma in the Grand Budapest Hotel. That's true. It's taken apart in that one scene.

The one, like when he asked, when Bensselaer asked him to go into the closet, like this to me is like the fact that he has this tight frame with these two people and like he's just packing it with these titles and these colors and these just everything. And like you can't really, you're jumping all over the place,

but then like the tension between them too is so strong and he just leaves it there. It strikes me every time. Well, it's also a great moment too where like Royal, you know, opens up on Chaz, like in a way that he kind of needs, right? because, you know, they're screaming in this closet.

And he's like, I think you're having a nervous breakdown. I don't think you've quite recovered from Rachel's death. Like, all of these things that are totally fucking true. But in this house, we don't talk about that stuff in that way. You know, there's no, like, there's no clever way to, you know, funly talk about the death of his wife. In the way that all these people speak to each other. The family needs him in a way.

They need someone blunt. to like get through some of this shit. Yes. Right. Yeah. And it takes a piss out of some of the stuff. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. Totally. I mean, it's the same thing. You know, he's the great exchange with Gwyneth Paltrow, where he's like, I don't like the way you're treating Raleigh.

And she's like, why don't you mind your own business? And he's like, you're two-timing him with that blood sucker, Eli Cash. That's not right, damn it. I do like that idea of Royal. By the way, says the guy who had multiple infidelities. Oh, absolutely. Yes. I do like the idea of Royal just being a shit to Eli Cash

from like the get-go when he was young and being like that kid's no good Richie stay away from that child he does criticize Eli Cash during the the childhood birthday party

or whatever he's just like are you in pajamas do you live here oh that's right yeah what are you doing here he has permission he has permission what are you children

having a sleepover when the scene we're Royal gets busted by Danny Glover. There's some stuff going on, but they're watching a couple of them. It's Richie and Margo are up in Royals' room, and they're watching Eli on the fake Charlie Rose show with Larry Pines. Oh, yeah.

And this is where he's like, you know, your last book, Wildcat wasn't so well received what happened there. And he's like, Wildcat, you know, I think it was kind of written in like an obsolete vernacular. Wildcat. I'm gonna go What's going on with him He's on drugs And again like this scene

Would make Danny Glover the villain of the movie But he's not because of the earlier scene And the way Royal treats him Like you know what I mean Like it is well balanced And you are on gluck Like you can never fully sympathize with Royal Tenemob

Because he is a son of a bitch Like you know what I mean At every turn but he's a lovable son of a bitch That's the whole turn of the movie but like it you can never be like oh no poor royal because it's like no fuck this guy and it's kind of great too you know because the end of all of this like everything goes to shit you know and you know it's stomach cancer looks like my wife died of it you don't eat four cheeseburgs a day there's no colby general it closed in 1974 you'll have the great pagoda

oh shit man which is funny but the whole end of that scene is after all that boils over ethel is like what was the point of all this you know and he's like i thought i could win you back and she's like, but we haven't spoken in seven years. And it's like Royal, you can see the screenplay like right in front of you. It's like Royal's line, ellipsies, ellipses, ellipses. Plus I was broke. You know,

and you're like, there it is, you fucking son of a bitch. Now it finally comes out. And the great, we've learned previously that the way that they met Pagoda was he was an assassin sent to murder Royal in a Calcutta Bazaar. He stabbed him and he took

he saved my life and he's like oh how he's like well i was stabbed in a calcutta bazaar and he's like who stabbed you he did there was a price on my head and he was a hired assassin it is such a good moment i mean then then he stabs him again with this little life and it's so fucking funny the world it's sort of like the venture brothers or something or johnny quest the way it spreads out like i want to i don't want to see it but i want to see younger royal tenembaum traveling It's getting prices on his head. It's also just awesome too in this world where like

everybody around knows what Pagoda's doing here is arguably totally fine, right? Because he's like, you son of a bitch and then like stabs him and like Gene Hackman kind of falls into the luggage or whatever and Pagoda gets him but like Gene Hackman never

once, you know, Royal is never like what the fuck? Like the cab driver he never gets out of the car. He's like whatever is going on. that guy was clearly just fine. I also love to light snow in this scene. Yes. And even to put it

over the top, the next scene you see Pagoda actually cleaning the wound, which is great. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. This is where they hold up shop at the 375th Y. Yes. There's also the snowing thing just reminded me there's that great exchange where Royals about to get in the car

and he looks back up at the it's like Margo and Ritchie and Henry Sherman. standing there watching him get in the car and he goes to Margo and says, you know, he's not your real father and she goes, neither are you and goes in the house. Oh, man.

I love the fact that they use the song from Vince Garald. Christmas Time is here. We're all these abandoned kids. I mean, it's just a perfect element. To use, to reference not only your, like, Wes Anderson's influence, clearly Schultz had a

pretty major influence on him. But, like, the song works here. The song is beautiful here. It's incredible. It really is. It's kind of funny when he goes back to it in the ice cream parlor. Yes. Because the funny thing is, like, it's not really, like, said that it's Christmas time at any point.

You know, there's no, right? I'm not, there's no holidays. There's no decorations or anything. No holidays, it's probably late fall, early winter. You'd have to guess. Or maybe even, I mean, we're all wearing coats of shit. Yes. And the trees are bare. and the whole thing. And again, like, that reminds you

in New York in the wintertime. Yeah. The Kim and Pagoda decide to become elevator operators to survive. And, you know, typical West Anderson fashion, let's put on some uniforms. Let's put on some cute uniforms, everybody. Absolutely, dude.

And we also around here get, you know, the private detective gets back to Bill Murray and is like, hey, so I did what you asked. You know, here, do you want to read the port and this is we get into the Ramones montage here and it's just like

all these dudes that Margo is hooked up with for her entire life somehow this guy found out about all of them even like as a kid yes yes it's quite a little and that she started smoking that she's this great montage and again like very

infographicy you're getting so much information and then at the end it's Bill Murray completely deadpin she smokes Judy is a punk too It's great Her smoking is such a great Like in family

Because that's what people do You know what I mean Everybody hides that they smoke And like oh my God You know what my parents to find out Blah blah Even though you're like fucking 40 You know what I mean

It's just it's a very It's a really well observed detail And I will get to the emergency room scene Which is fantastic But where that really pays off Yeah And you know we're almost to it I mean

this whole report about, like, you know, blah, blah, blah, all these dudes, including Eli Cash. This is what sets Richie off to the suicide attempt. This was also, by the way, a lot of firsts for Andrew Juppin. This was the first time I ever heard Elliot Smith was in this movie. Oh, yeah. And this eerily prescient usage of Elliot Smith. Oh, yeah. Sure.

He was definitely still a lot. You wouldn't use a suicide scene if, no, no, no, no. You're saying this gave him ideas, though. that's what you're saying. That's what I'm getting at. Well, I didn't follow these ideas. It was very different from this idea. It's, it's eerie man. The funny thing is, like,

I don't want him to, ever. But if Wes Anderson made a horror movie, this scene tells me that it would be pretty okay. Oh, yeah. No, this is amazing. Like, the lighting in this bathroom is like this weird, stark like medical lighting and just the visuals here, even though you don't see him physically slit his wrist,

just the blood pouring out and the hair everywhere he would do it man he could do it and it's just this great I mean you know it's very affecting again like these movies aren't as cold as people think they are he looks at the mirror

he's like I'm gonna kill myself tomorrow but then he just kind of does it you know what I mean? That's always kind of been weird to me and I guess it's like you know with those situations you never know how you're gonna act and you know maybe he just decides fuck it it's it just it's always

played odd for me but not the bad way it's just truly unsettling I always took it as I mean he's a man who's always had like steadiness and he can plan things out and he can he can center himself when he needs to and he's like trying to tell himself put it off for tomorrow put it off for tomorrow

you'll do it tomorrow but he can't like this is him breaking down for good this is he can't control anything anymore this is why the blood rushes the way it does in that visual way and the way that you get the scars and you know it was really fucking and violent. It wasn't like, it wasn't like a tidy. It was not a West Anderson suiticide. It was a jagged, like, insane suicide. He like

cut himself three times on each one with end downward two rather than across. And I mean, like this is, you know, Wes Anderson is a music guy and it's not just like, hey, what are cool Kink's songs to put here or there the other way because I like Kinks music. Like he chose this song because it's got that real heavy acoustic moment to really when we're rushing Richie to the hospital, that's going to make this crescent into this amazing moment.

You know what I mean? Where we're rushing and like Dudley finds him and it's really affecting that Dudley finds him. He yells at this kid, you don't hear it. He doesn't have language to deal with this kind of stuff. This kid is, this poor kid doesn't know anything.

And he's seeing this guy like half dead. You know, you feel really bad. And I love them running in the hospital. Both of them are covered in blood. And then when Gwyneth Paltrow gets there and she asks Dudley, where is he? And he goes, who? that's right

oh my god that's so fucking great I wanted to point out because we're talking about a lot of you know the look of this movie it's shot by Robert D. Yeoman who has worked with Wes Anderson I think almost exclusively here

I don't have the entire filmography but this dude I mean also directed some some previous episodes Dead Heat and the Wizard he shot both of those movies but he's you know so he shot

see if I can do the years here he did bottle rocket rushmore he goes into ten and bounds life aquatic branches off to work with Noah Bombback for Squid the Whale did shoot Darjeeling did shoot Hotel Chevalier I don't think he did the

stop motion movies which I think is probably no process you know yeah because he comes back you're right because he shoots Moonrise Kingdom he's working also like in tons of other places because he did get him to the Greek he did bridesmaids he did the heat but then he goes back

he does Grand Budapest he does spy, love and mercy, the fucking Ghostbusters 2016, the second Mamma Mia movie, and then Bumfredge dispatch and he shot Astrid City. So he's done all of his live

action. He's a good DP, but that list reminds me of like the production design of Wes Anderson, the art directors they add that extra element that puts it over the top. Oh yeah. And I think that's why, you know, like if you're a dude like Wes Anderson, like it's

beneficial to work with the same DP as much as you can you know. Definitely. So yeah so the suicide I mean the whole the coming together in the hospital is great I love them all together

and you know just like fucking Dudley just sitting there blood covered on the t-shirt. This is Raleigh Sinclair may I have a cigarette which is like this he used it like it's like the third act of a fucking like Agatha Christie thing like he

is like doing gotcha on her a at a really shitty moment by the way but oh yeah and he really and he lays the suicide right at her feet he's like you made a cuckold of me and you almost killed your poor brother and you're like killed you go brother oh yeah that delivery is falling

yeah by the way she's bawling Eli Cash bawling bawling is great when Richie wakes up he said you know people like but they ask him like why or whatever and he's like I wrote a suicide note after I regained consciousness.

Is it dark? Of course it's dark. It's a suicide note. Could you read it? Oh, God. It's just those lines, there's just so many lines that hit so well in this movie.

Yes. That's hilarious. And Gene Hackman takes off work to see him and he just happened to see him as he escapes the hospital. The first of two great

pagoda deliveries of there he is. Oh, man. There he is. There he goes. Yeah. He sneeps back in and he sleeps in this, he sleeps in this crazy tent up in the attic because his room is occupied by Royal. And this is when, you know, what you might call it, Gwyneth Paltrow is in his tent. And it's, this is one of the most affecting scenes. I think that he's ever done. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, because it's like, you know, it ends. He's somehow made. And just to make it end in such a way where, like, not that it's not creepy, but like the creepiness is diffused with her just being like, Richie, I think we're going to have to be with each, in love with each other in secret and leave it at that. But I mean, and it's just kind of like, all right. Well, there's this just, like, when they lay back down and she's like, you know, can I see, can I see, are you going to do it again? And he's like, I don't think so. And then she breaks down. It's, it's a tough one to watch, man. a really like it's and they have such good chemistry and like again it's like stilted quiet west anderson enough but that there's so much emotion behind that scene oh yeah um and i love that it's

it's also hearkening back to you know one of the things that baldwin tells us in the narration that one time when they were kids they snuck off to the there was some sort of african wing of the city archives or something that they you know and it's so funny because it's like those kinds of stories, you know, for New York, it's like, oh, they snuck into the natural history museum and they slept under the big whale, but it's like, no, they just went to these archives and, like, lived under a bench for several days, but like them in the tent sort of, you know, harkens back to all of that, which is, which is really nice. And all this is like, it's really warmly lit because all the lights coming from like his little, little tent lantern or whatever, which is pretty cool. And there's so much yellow in the scene. You know, and I don't think so. Him saying that is interesting. It is devastating because she's terrified that he is going to do it again.

But it's also one of the stock things that this family says to each other a lot. Like there's, if you look at the script, a lot of the time, the Tenenbound family, they say things like, what are you talking about a lot? Not exactly a lot. By the way, a lot. Not real. You know what I mean? it's weird that it's like one of the family things just being said again but this time it carries so much more weight than any other time they say it in the movie

which I think is really cool but so yeah they are not they're not going to be living happily ever after which is probably fun although you know she asked about Eli we mostly just talked about you but you don't even know I mean like where it actually actually ends you don't know where they're at. They might be fucking. Yeah, I think they might be fucking on Christmas. Oh, dude. They're probably fucking on Christmas. I mean, yeah, because she's like hanging all over him at the funeral.

And like, I imagine after this, I mean, no matter what good has come of Royal's time here, I do think afterwards they're like, yeah, we'll see you like holidays, right? We don't have to talk all the time. So me, me, Margo, are going to go back onto the boat and fuck all the time in international water. That's where it's legal, baby. Well, and then it's, they're very smart though, right? Because it's like, oh, you know, Ethel's invited us all for Thanksgiving.

All right. You get there on Tuesday and then I'll tell them that I'm coming in from the West Coast on the Wednesday night, you see. So they don't know that we've been on this boat fucking the whole time. Just we don't want that. They probably know, but we don't have that image in their head.

You know, that's not good for anybody. Well, it's also kind of funny because like, Royal isn't like entirely against it you know because he's just like Marco Marco Tenenbaum well I guess I could see it she's a pretty enough girl whatever he says you know it's not like it's not outright I don't even know it would be frowned upon yes it'll be frowned upon but then again what isn't these days yeah right um yeah no it's around here too is when they try to go it's like uh Richie's like oh you know dad I've another problem that I need

your help with. And it's doing this like really rough out of nowhere intervention for Eli where they go to the house. Mordecai, the bird did come back on that rooftop though. Mordecai, by the way, he's like, oh wow, he has white feathers. You know, if a human being has a traumatic experience, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, actually the bird that, that played Mordecai was kidnapped and held for ransom. And they couldn't get it. back so they wound up like just getting a different bird and writing that line in which is fucking insane yeah it's amazing bird napping that is a that is a literal west anderson crime happening on a west anderson movie yes bird mapping in the big apple where's that short

dude and i'll tell you right now that'll teach you to film your movie in the bronx it's true um but they they do have the nice exchange here where eli's like you know I always wanted to be a ten and bow you know and then royal across the room me too you know like god damn and he does say this those little moments again like it's so sweet this whole part of the movie is like really

all these emotional high notes and then it's just sort of like well thank you I realize I now have a problem I just I'm gonna go grab my stuff and then there it goes there it goes and did you notice I was watching this he runs out he calls a gypsy cab down he hails the cab he's barefoot in the street and if you look

at it. Owen Wilson is definitely wearing those fake Hobbit feet that Daniel Stern had in Home Alone. Really? He's just wearing big rubber feet. Yeah, I guess because you don't, I mean, do you want to run around barefoot in New York City? Problem with the Bronx? I don't. So there you go. It's just

funny now with like, you know, Blu-ray and 4K and whatnot. I'm just seeing Hobbit feet left and right. He does have the quick scene at the ice cream parlor to you know, because he's now going through and trying to like make good with all the kids trying to weasel his way back in for a second time

in the movie. I guess I'll have a butterscotch Sunday I guess after not wanting anything. You probably don't even know my middle name. That's a trick question. You don't have it's Helen. That's my mother's name. I know.

It's so funny because like it is hilarious but it's also incredibly sweet. Yes. But it's all you know, you know, you know. But also like it's not. a, what do you call it there?

They are not okay at the end of the scene. You know what I mean? Like, it's not, this isn't a, like, he doesn't solve everything. Like, he definitely has a horrible relationship with her forever.

You know what I mean? Things are still going bad for him. I mean, he goes to the, he goes to the house and yells for the grandkids. Who's up for a couple burgers and hitting the cemetery? Hitting the cemetery. And I think Chad shuts that then.

Yeah. But then it's the big wedding day of Ethel and. Well, he gives, Yeah, because he does, that's the, that's the last make of his, he gives the divorce payment. That's right. Which is actually a beautiful scene. Yes, it is.

I, I, I, I wasn't sure about him at first, but now I get it. He's everything that I'm not. Oh, and take pagoda back, will you? Oh, right. Yeah. Totally. By the way, in true, in true Wes Anderson fashion for this wedding, you get the weirdest looking fucking wedding quintet you have ever seen in your life. Of course.

You see these people? You got some forged in fire. is Mother's Ball in that fucking quintet? Oh, it might be because he did some music in this movie. He's always this dude, you know? Oh, is he? Oh, he does a lot of them, right? Yeah, no, he does do a lot of them. I don't know when he started or not,

but yeah, he does do a lot. Because hasn't he also worked with is it Alexander Displot? He works recently. Recently. Okay. He switched over, I think. Gotcha. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, the whole wedding sequence, I mean,

it all just works so well you know it's this the house is all decorated and it just again starts with this fucking royal tenenbaum he will talk to a brick wall and he's talking to this priest and it's the great well I'm half Hebrew but the children are three quarters Mick Catholic

the priest is like oh so they were raised of the church oh I don't know their their mother raised them you meet Henry Sherman's son who's I just love that this like it's just fun to watch and I think West Edison knows this like bringing in characters

that are as baffled by the hijinks as anybody else you know what I mean like a real person almost like he's like this naval officer like you know what I mean he's got this whole yeah he has this whole other life and it's just this thing where it's like oh okay hi weird fucking family

it doesn't happen often but when someone from not a Wes Anderson movie arrives in a Wes Anderson movie yes there's you know you're expecting like this kid came out of fucking you know Nicholas Cage in Annapolis

or whatever By the way I'm on Mark Mothersburg's IMDB and he started with Bottle Rocket believe it or not

he also did the music for Happy Gilmore the same year Nice nice career there I mean that's what you want I love that scene

with Danny Glover getting ready for with his son because I mean we were just talking about the butterscotch Sunday scene where like

there are things that this person who you think loves you should know about you think. And like you assume they do know these things about you because there's some warmth to it that you think you share. And they forget that because they forget old parts

of themselves. Forget who they were. Whereas and but the other side of that is that there are strangers who know all about you and love you like just by knowing what you've been through. So something went when Henry says like I'm a widow of myself. Like that it's such a huge moment

because it feels like Ben Stiller has never had anybody say, I know what you're going through. Like, I know what this is. He puts his arm around and he's like, I am too, is like, I know. And he like, you know, it's a really, it's a really sweet moment. Well, it's also, it's also a nice callback to the scene where they're all fighting about Royal

coming back to the house to begin with. And Ben Stiller keeps, you know, he keeps calling him Mr. Sherman. And, you know, Ethel's like, you know, call him Henry. You know him. And he's like, you know, I don't. He's like, she says, you've known him for 10 years. your accountant. Mr. Sherman, right? And it's this really nice thing of like, hey man, like, yeah, he's just been Mr. Sherman to you. But this dude has been with your mother and learning about your life. And he remembers it because he cares because he's a fucking good person. And look, look at how fucked up the three of you are. You are fucking paranoid having a nervous breakdown. Your brother wants to fuck your sister. And meanwhile, here's fucking Henry Sherman's kid. This motherfucker is in the service. Like he's in the Navy. Like, proud father coming putting his son on display

like boy there could not be polar opposite and being like polite to everybody too like you know what I mean it's and then meanwhile he like cash the fucking face paint is just damn dude it is wild and it's just Owen Wilson

speeding down the road like here I come it's fucking great and he almost hits the kids but Royal pulls them aside and because fucking Wes Anderson like Jeffrey Dahmer Ted Bundy before him wants to fucking fuck with dogs.

Has to kill Buckley. I only got to kill 10 dogs on this shoot. We killed a lot of dogs on the aisle of dogs shoot because we had to know what they look like outside and inside. So I just decided to go wild. But yeah, on Royal 10, box, we kept it pretty low.

Only 10 dead dogs to get Buckley right. Peter can go fuck themselves. The shot needed to look good. Look, they'd been well care. No, he didn't. All right. kick that goat right off the fucking edge.

Buckley isn't even fucking in the shot, man. It's the magic of editing. Also, is there some track record here that I'm not aware of? Steve, aside from Isle of Dogs, by the way, Steve, which was all puppets, I don't know if you knew that. There's no real dogs. He kills a dog in Moonrise Kingdom. That dog eats shit. Oh, I don't remember that one. She's got to, is it a dog or is it a cat that she has?

I think it's a dog. That's in general. He just is not fond of. It's the rumble between the two sets of kids. I think a dog definitely eats shit there. I think it's like shot with a bow and arrow or something. I need to revisit that movie. I need to revisit that movie. I remember loving it.

And maybe it was because I want to see dogs die apparently. But anyway. So yeah. In one scene, Snoopy is killed by an arrow. That's right. See? That's a bummer. I'm telling you.

Dude fucking hates dogs. Woodstock crying that night. Woodstock's crying his eyes out. Oh, someone call home to Woodstock. Snoopy ain't coming home. to that. Linus is playing his piano. So that's Red Baron one, Snoopy's zero.

Also, I'll just say, you know, the dog who played Buckley, Steve, I mean, no fucking urban legends about that dog getting kidnapped on set with that bird. That's a good point. I also love that the dog is named Buckley. It is kind of a nice, like, yeah, uh, Chaz-Tenel. and bound would name his dog after William F. Buckley, maybe, you know what I mean? It could be any other

amount of names, but I was like, Buckley, this character, yeah, it's a William F. Buckley dog. I guess it's fitting it's dead then, right? It's a good thing. Yeah, that's true. Speaking of Stiller, though, I love him fucking just chasing

Owen Wilson through this house. This whole thing, again, the real frenetic camera work. This is one of the best sequence of the movie, Not only because at one point Pagoda stops Owen Wilson says, hey man,

taste this, it's really good. Totally. He's got an appetizer. But then also, I think it's Chaz that shoves the priest down the flight of stairs

and the stunt performance of this is so funny. Dude hits every stair. It's really good. Just like the stiller screaming, they do a good cut where it's like, they're fighting against the wall

in the backyard. They cut to other people running in. And then when they cut back. Ben Stiller is just lifting Owen Wilson over his head and throwing him over the wall. God damn, that's great.

Just like freak out strength. I love it. Realizing like he's also being a piece of shit. Like he just, he's got to get out of there himself. So he just jumps over and lays next to him. This is a great moment, right? They land in this like a little like Zen rock garden and Owen Wilson's like

I need help. And it's Ben Stiller saying, so do I. And it's just like, fuck that's great and then yeah you know I love they knock on the door it's something like

consulate yeah it's like the Japanese ambassador's residence yeah it's like uh ma'am

can we get in your backyard we got two of our boys back there like their little kids but no they're pushing 40 him with spark plug up on the fire truck I love that thing

that he for all his like there is something about dogs in this movie because the fact that he has such a command of dogs like he tells every dog like sit and the dog sits Buckley and Sparkbug do that and then he gets the dog for Chaz

and it's really sweet. That is like another movement in this incredible single take going around the scene here that starts with Bill Murray talking to this priest and he's like, do you have an alternate? The guy's like, no. Is there a dial a priest?

And we just start, like, you know, moving through this whole space. It's just really, really incredible, you know, and it kind of gets in, you have the moment here of, you know, when Royal gives the dog, and he's, this is the great Ben Stiller, you know, I had a

rough year, dad, I know you did, Jazzy. Yeah. And it just sort of like, you know, we have this nice little crane up and it's amazing, like the whole composition of this is like Royal down on the street, like, oh, got my kid a new dog, I made good, everything's doing okay. And then it's like, Ethel,

up on the steps her arms folded like looking down at the scene it's almost like one of the tenembaum illustrations you see you know throughout the film it's just so expertly composed I fucking love it gorgeous um and this is when

baldwood kicks back in and he kind of just he starts to kind of wrap everything up letting you know that you know uh that Henry and Ethelina were married the next week 48 hours later adjusted the piece that everybody was there

and the Chaz started to go with Royal on his little adventures Margo writes the Levenson's in the trees which we're told ran for just under two weeks to mixed reviews

and it's fucking great because it's just the same line from her animals play where it's like this is why adopted daughter Margo Levinson and it's fucking Royal the only person laughing

in the theater I have to assume that's where they got she must have written the first draft of the Wild Thornberry's cartoon probably just for that. Richard becomes like a tennis teacher at the

Y. Eli goes to a North Dakota rehab where he's you know doing lassoes amongst Native Americans saying shit like wind's blowing up a gale today. Yeah this is my sponsor runs with two horses. Hey how's it going?

And then we are told Royal suffered a heart attack at the age of 68 and Chaz wrote with him the ambulance and was the only witness to his father's death. And that whole, I mean, like, the whole thing they've hackman in the ambulance, he's got the oxygen mask on his face, Ben Stiller's holding his

hand, like, God damn, the end of this movie gets me every fucking time. And just like a son of a bitch going to the grave, you've got a soundtrack it with a son of a bitch, so Van Morrison kicks in. And according to his wishes, the funeral was at dusk. Oh, totally.

And according to his wishes, Van Morrison was blaring. And people wore black track suits. Had he seen it, Royal would have found the whole affair to be most satisfactory. The BB gun salute, I thought sweet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then it's a nice callback, which was a callback I didn't

notice until this time. Because when they're at the cemetery, there's a shot. Yeah. It's him and Richie standing next to some other gravestone of someone that's not theirs. And he's like, make a note. I want that kind of epitaph on my tombstone. And then like what we get at the end is a shot of the tombstone that says that Royal died tragically rescuing his family from the wreckage of a destroyed sinking battleship. It's so good. And then I think there's even something else like when we're a lot like

a wider shot of the grave area. There's also something that says salt of the the earth for him. That was his was his. Wasn't that his mother? The mother. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that's that's that's her little thing is like she was the salt of the earth, Helen. Right, right. Okay, yeah, because that's the closing of the gate of the family plot, my mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is, I was looking at that and I was like, man, if I wanted to be buried in the ground,

a nice little fenced-in area with a gate pretty cool. Not bad, dude. Yeah. The rich are putting gates. Start saving, yeah, dude. The rich are putting gates everywhere, dude. Nah, dude, put me in a fucking folder's can like Donnie, dude. That's the way to be. Put me out to see. Totally fine.

Yeah, but just ending, you know, and yeah, sure. Van Morrison's a dick, but the song's fucking great, and the slow-mo ending here I think is only topped by is it Queen Bitch that ends the next movie? It might be. Life Aquatic ends with, yeah, with Queen Bitch. That slow-mo ending, I remember

liking more, even though I like this movie much more than Life Aquatic, but that's just because I think Queen Bitch is obviously the better tune. But yeah, you know, just ending like that it really knocked me on my ass. I should say, this movie is the movie I've seen in theaters the most. I saw this movie five times when it came out.

And I may have told the story before, not much of a story, but I took my parents on the fifth time because they were like, what is this movie? You keep going to see this movie. And I was like, let's go. Boy, they didn't care for it.

They did not care for a fucking lick of that movie. And I'll tell you right now, that was in 2001. So we're talking, what, 21 years ago? literally the last time I've been to the movies with my parents. It's funny. Your dad's just like all of a sudden he's like, oh man Andrew, you know, I don't usually like

him, but I saw that aisle of dogs and they just got everything straight A. They figured it all out. He's good now. He's good. You know, he should stick to animation. Yeah, my dad not watching stop animation. And he wouldn't have cared much for the treatment of the dogs in that movie. Oh, really? There you go.

Oh, yeah. No, my dad's a big dog fellow. Oh, man, but that is the movie. That is the Royal Tenenbaum's, folks. you may have seen it and you may have liked it and if you haven't I don't know check it out maybe we should go around the room here of course final thoughts and and other additional Wes Anderson recommendations

I don't know whatever you want to do Eric I know I love this movie I do think it's like his crowning achievement even though I love a lot of his movies I talked about that earlier but I want to quickly highlight David Wasco I mean this is the last movie he made with Wes Anderson and he's the production designer interesting career with this fellow

Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Bottle Rocket, Jackie Brown. This is selected filmography. There's a few more in between Rushmore. He does heist with David Mamet, who also do Red Belt with David Mamet, Royal Tenenbombs, both kill bills, collateral. Wow. And glorious bastards. And he wins the Oscar for Lala Land. Well, there you go.

Also did Molly's game and 50 Shades of Grey. So he's skewing in another direction now. But he's a good craftsman. I'll say that much. There you go, dude. Chris Cabin. Oh, yeah. I mean, this, I love Wes Anderson.

He's one of my favorite directors. I think he's been, I think Rushmore on, like aside from Isle of Dogs, I love them all. Like, not like, I love them all. And I think the thing I love about him is that there's craftsmanship to them all. Like, still, even like now that he's using a little more computers with, you know, aside from the stop motion animation stuff, like Grand Budapest and French Dispatch in a time when like

everybody seems to be trying to make everything look synthetic and like look empty like his shit is full of stuff and like French dispatch like some of those frames are so alive and packed with life that I'm that's why I think people were overwhelmed by it is because like there's actually too much to know

like to go into his movies you actually are overwhelmed with how much he's putting into them I mean and that is just rare like there's just no other director maybe other than the other Anderson, P.T., and maybe Kyristami, that I think of who pack the fucking screen with this much detail. And it always, it sends me into a reverie. I get romantic about movies when I watch his movies, and this is

no different. I mean, it's wild, too, just to think like, I mean, something like French dispatch. I mean, why it's like advanced level Wes Anderson, a bad place for you to start with his filmography. It's like, like you're saying, I mean, there's so much. But like, it's what there's so much of that's wild to me I mean like there's three different aspect ratios there's color and black and white there's live action and animation

you know what I mean so like and it's a fucking anthology film on top you know what I mean so there's so jam packed shit in that movie and I still think it I really like all parts of that movie I know some people are iffy on the Chalame part um I thought it was still good but yeah like

the fact that you look at this movie and it's like so you know it's not, but it just feels way more streamlined and simplistic. By the way, amendment real quick, I should mention that Sandy Reynolds Wasco is also the set decorator on most of his movies. So it's kind of a husband-wife duo

that I was speaking. Oh, nice. For real. Yeah. Very nice. Steve Sadek. Yeah, no, I mean, I think this actually is a great place to start for Wes Anderson stuff. It is just such a prototypical one. It's probably my favorite. It's and it's probably the most emotionally resident for me and just the New Yorkiness of it all.

I don't think he does a lot more in New York. You know what I mean? I think Darjeeling comes back to New York once or twice, but mostly not so much. And I just think that all of that stuff plus, I don't know, like there's just, it's he talking about this stuff and being able to fit this much story in an hour and 49 minutes by not unlike the novelists

knowing when to let narration take care of a lot of heavy lifting and then have a scene you know what I mean and like playing between those two things and not worrying too much about ooh is this too much narration or is this too much that like there's just you know so much about this world but the time that gate closes you feel like

you've read a whole book and that's the greatest part of this the trick of this movie it it moves like a book. It feels like a book, but it is undoubtedly a movie. So I love it. Yeah, it's well-paced, but like dense in text, but in a good way. I mean, I don't think I'm going to say anything different or better than what you guys have already said here. I mean, yeah, I am a big fan of most of his movies, if not all of them.

I will say I haven't gone back to a lot of his later stuff, which I would like to. but you know this is I agree a good place to start and you know we'll see what happens with the asteroid city next year but there's a lot of people there

who he has not worked with yet I mean that's an interesting thing yet I mean Tom Hanks Maya Hawk Margo Robbie Scarlett Johansson Steve Carell

Cranston is in that movie and then oh and Rupert friend but then yeah and then some of the your faves are back too Defoe Brody Norton Swin

and you know Goldblum back oh fucking Fisher Steven's floating around I'm even more excited so yeah I don't know it's just he's a dude you either like him or you don't

I do feel that he gets a little bit of like a cynical kind of he's cynically shit on in corners of the film world which I never get it's like you know and maybe that's just

because like we came up when he was getting big so maybe that has something to do with it I don't know he didn't make a Pokemon the movie or whatever detective pokey chew or whatever you know I'll tell you what dude

if I can Wes Anderson make it a Pokemon movie maybe I'd finally see it would be good I'd be a good one I'd like that shin Pokemon would be good by Wes Anderson shin Pokemon there you go Wes Anderson's shin Pokemon that is going to do it for this edition of We Love movies of course

this has been the Royal Tenant Bombs by Wes Anderson from 2001 if you want more we hate movies definitely check out our Patreon this month because the script is flipped folks we have we love movies episodes all month here on the main feed which means over on the $5 level

WLM feed it's actually H this month we're doing Rotten Rids Hannibal that's going to be wildest time at the time of this recording I've not seen this movie in like 20 years this is going to be really it's going to be an interesting re-evaluation and Ray Leota's brains are on display

and you'll get a lot of basic version impressions, I'm going to guess. Oh, if I had to get. Oh, now. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of that. Also, we have a full-length AD. Is that right, Steve? We do. Featuring my wife was also a huge

West Anderson fan. Talking about one of her favorite movies. Nightmare before Christmas. Just in time to be exactly between Christmas and Halloween, which is where you want it, folks. That's where you want to position that movie. Good episode, a lot of fun. Feature length.

episode, by the way. That's right. Speaking of FutureLength episodes, Chris Kavana, what's going on over on the Nexus? Oh, we're talking about Star Trek the Motion Picture with the gold titles. Now they have the gold titles. The gold titles are there.

Yes, we are big things of Star Trek the motion picture, and it was a lot of fun to talk about. Also, yes. Big fat feature length app, folks. Oh, yeah. Recorded back in August, so who knows what we were saying back then. And also speaking of

longer than usual, we have a big fellow to talk about on the Gleap Glouclery this one. That's right. Chewbacca will be joining us. Oh, wow. In studio, Chewbacca. That's right. He will be there. Do not worry about it. Maybe with the magic of the movies, he will be there, but he will be there.

Oh, definitely, Chewbacca. You can totally smoke in the studio. That'll just cover up the fucking smell. But here on the main feed, Love Movies Month continues with another F next week. Steve, what are we talking about? And with whom? We are doing an episode on point

break with Matt Christman and Will Menaker of the Chapo Traff House podcast. We're excited to welcome them to this show. We're excited to talk about Gary Busey. Utah. Two! Get me two guests on that next

episode. Yeah. Oh, man. So until next week where we're talking about one of the best Surfer crime dramas of all time. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. Eric Sisko. Chris Kavan.

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