We Hate Movies - S13 Ep643: Point Break (with Will Menaker & Matt Christman of Chapo Trap House)

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

On this episode, the guys welcome Will Menaker and Matt Christman from Chapo Trap House to chat about the absolute best surfer/cop action/drama, Point Break! What kind of a name is that to give Busey���s character? How terrible is Johnny Utah at going undercover? Should a 50 year-old man eat two meatball sandwiches before noon? How hilarious is Busey’s wardrobe? Is Utah the worst cop ever put to film? PLUS: It is high time we free Kathryn Bigelow from Movie Jail!   Point Break stars Patrick Swayze, Keanu Reeves, Lori Petty, John C. McGinley, James Le Gros, John Philbin, Bojesse Christopher, Lee Tergesen, Anthony Kiedis, and Gary Busey as Angelo Pappas; directed by Kathryn Bigelow. Check out the WHM Merch Store -- featuring new Crispy Critters, MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna? & Mortal Kombat designs! Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the program, squeeze into your wetsuits and order up two meatball subs because on this episode, we're talking point break. My name is Andrew Jupin. Stephen Siddak. Eric Siska. Chris Kentucky. Matt Christman. Will Minnaker. And we love movies.

Hello, everyone, welcome to We Love Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. You heard him up top this week. We are so stoked to be joined by two of the hosts of the very popular chopper trap house, Will Menaker and Matt Christman, in the We Hate Movies Virtual Studios. fellows, thanks for coming on the program.

My pleasure. You contacted Chris to get us on the podcast, and you said of the chopos, you said, give me two. Give me two. You guys are my meatball sandwiches. No tune on wheat here. We're going to talk about that for at least an hour. He's going to go back to back, right?

That's not like a wait, give it a half hour. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's a single meal, dude. That's what that is. I will say the single one that he starts eating doesn't look that big. It's not like a footlong. It's maybe six inches. It's like it's two of them.

It's a footlong. They sell those at Subway. It's not that crazy. So you're, Matt, you think this is a perfectly fine meal for 10.30 in the morning? Well, I mean, yeah, it's a little early. And also, you know, you're waiting for a bank robbery to happen. It's a sloppy food for a bank robbery. It's a very bad.

Sitting sitting in a car. anything with like a sauce, like a people that's got like a marinera. That's a poor choice. I'd go like an Italian, like a salami or something. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, you're shitting your pants if you're running into a fucking bank robbery with that right in your gut, like

just landed there. Well, I'm going to shoot my pants anyway running into a robbery, so I might as well have to sandwich as well. Yeah, yeah, Busey's character has been working hard cases for the FBI for 22 years. He thinks he cares if he shits his pants or throws up on the job? I mean, I guess not. I mean, he's, I mean,

He's trying to die more than Bodey in this movie. That's true. He was shit in his pants when you were fucking watching reading Rainbow, Eric, all right? That's true. He was shooting his pants in Vietnam. Well, actually, it's kind of interesting. What is the amount of time between him eating those meatball subs and when he is deliciously assassinated at the end of this movie? Because all of that meatball sub could just be falling right out on the tarmac there.

It's like the next day. So he's got, you know, to be like there. I mean, the coroner will find some meatball pieces, they think. Yeah, they're definitely going to, they're going to have to sweep those up off the runway. That's what? When he gets shot in the bag, it's not blood, it's all the marineris sauce. Shooting out of his back stomach. This is a question I had one.

My God, his back stomach? Some people have those. I've heard of them. Is it about time for Catherine Bigelow to come out of movie jail? It's been long enough, I think. Detroit is pretty dead. pretty fucking bad. Okay. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I mean, look, I think Captain Bigelow is an

extraordinary director. I've not seen Detroit either, so I can't enter opinion on that one. I would say, yes, it is time for Catherine Bigelow to come out of movie jail, provided that the next movie she makes is propaganda for Hezbollah and not the CIA. That's right. A little given take. That's all. Yeah. Both sides. It's nice. It's nice. I mean, that was the worst mistake of her career was like making important movies. Like, These are the movies she should be making big, dumb, stupid action movies that are sexy and fun. If you're dark, it's perfect. She never should have hooked up with that Mark Boll character.

Yeah. Because they were supposed to be doing all kinds of stuff. They were supposed to do that. What's that Ben Affleck piece of shit from Netflix? Triple Frontier, yeah. They were supposed to do that for forever and they just dropped off, I guess for Detroit, which mistake, I would say. That's a rough. Yeah.

Detroit, that's a must skip. Don't worry about that. fuck was this Netflix movie, Kevin? It was Triple Frontier. Triple Frontier. The Damien Chiselle, I think, did that. Yes. And that movie would have actually, I thought, have been great if, at the end, they just

started murking that entire village, like actual Special Forces guys would have. Instead of being like, no, no. Oh, we've got to get Ben Affleck's body back to the United States. We can't kill any civilians. Oh, my God. But we would never do such a thumpling like that. No. Float Ben Affleck's body home on a tide of blood, I would say.

that sounds about right. That's the only way you're going to get him home to bury him under the Dunkin' Donuts. Yeah, they were like, do we need, do we, like,

we can only have so much weight in this plane to take off. Do we take, do we leave our friend's body at the bottom of a Peruvian crater or do we each get like a $5 million richer. Gee,

I wonder what they do. Guys who kill people for a living. But I think Steve, you were saying how sexy this movie is. And we are sexy out of the gate with the slow-mo intro, uh, fucking Keanu wet as

fuck, just his floppy hair, smiley face, thumbs up to the camera. We were, there was a full FBI sexy recruitment push between him and Jody Foster and Sons of the Lans. It's like, this is a sexy, fun position for a young professional.

Well, 1991 was the year for cinematic FBI hotties to be having their first case on the job. And we have three peaks as well. Now we just have like fucking TV shows where like I mean, that's just, that shows you wear it all went down. Like Quantico? Like the rookie feds. Yeah.

There's like two. Yeah, you get like one or two seasons out of it and then they just fucking say goodbye. I don't know. Some of those I think are in like their 30th season. Not only do they have 30 seasons. Two a year, but they also have several spinoff set in different cities like Des Moines and Salt Lake City. Chicago FBI. Yeah. But this opening is great. I love this because it's like, you know, two kinds of ways to get wet. You get wet surfing and you're having fun, but then you're getting wet at work because he's just stuck in the rain on this target practice thing or whatever. And it's that great like, hey, Utah, you got every one of them, man, every little piece of paper, you fucking nailed it.

You're going to be out there killing people in no time. Dude, an ex-college football star FBI agent is every fucking dead's fucking hard on. Well, yeah, he would be obviously the president by now. Yeah, but there is, there is no college football player. at quarterback or any position and look, I'm not saying you have to be a genius to get the FBI, but there is no college football player who could get through Quantico.

No. They could do the monkey bars and shit like that, but you actually have to be pretty book smart to be an FBI agent. I think IRL, absolutely correct. Will, although this does sound like an excellent plot for like a Brian Bosworth movie.

Football cop. Yes. And it's just called football cop, absolutely. I will say, though, About the, the Keanu opening montage that, you know, a juxtapose is him getting wet on the shooting range and a guy surfing a cool ass break. It's good to know Keanu hasn't lost any of his skills on the gun range

because there is that video that came out of him prepping for like John Wick too. And he's like, he's cycling through a fucking 9mm, a shotgun, a fucking MP5. And he's just working through this course, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, he's a fucking madman. And I mean, you know, Keanu, people say, you know, oh, he's not a great actor or whatever. but he's a great movie star. He's a great presence.

He fucking commits to everything. Absolutely. Well, that's what makes this movie work. It's him and Swayze and Swayze, R-I-P. But, like, it was a movie star as well. He wasn't, he shouldn't have won an Oscar, but he definitely, like, brings some weird dance kid that also skydives energy to everything that comes through.

I think this is probably his best performance. I love this performance by it, because it actually does show the whole spectrum. Like, you get the usual Swayzy, you know, kind of seductive, slow, like, hey, how are you doing that, man? But you also get, like, the very angry part towards the end. Like, and I don't think many other movies did that for him. This movie, like, takes his character in Roadhouse, who's sort of like, I'm a

bouncer for spiritual reasons. And this movie, it updates it to, like, I rob banks and kill people for spiritual reasons to fight against the system. But I like, because it's Bigelow, she has a real sense of cruelty and perversity. So this movie shows the kind of, like, a Zen cowboy surfer guy like taken to its logical extreme would be a complete psychopath

yeah he would have to have a rosy he has to have like a piece of shit a mechanism man I need to see Lee Turgerson being like set on someone like Patrick Swayze giving the order like Rosie go get him and you just see Lee Turgis and fucking tearing some dude up

eating someone's face or whatever would be fucking awesome a little more face eating would have helped I do think I do love how this opens And then it goes directly into the FBI with John C. McGinley, who all, he's a piece of, he's a pain in the ass. He's an asshole, of course. But like, he's absolutely correct about Johnny Utah. Johnny, he's the worst police officer. Yes, yes. He's so bad at his job in the departed. He is the worst cop to ever be in a movie. Well, let's see. You are, you are undercover, okay, with surfers. And you.

could have easily been spotted it multiple times in this movie walking into the FBI like office building with a surfboard in your fucking hand and he's that it doesn't fit in my car I'm like dude what are you doing he goes to the he goes to the beach and he's just got a walkie-talkie with period just hollering into the other end of it to be fair it's wrapped in a blanket special agent Utah oh come on get me over but to be fair he's also like this is the FBI's fault because this dude is fucking famous. This guy was in the Rose Bowl 30, like two weeks ago. Yeah. That's true. And he's

walking around saying, hi, my name is John to Utah. I'm a lawyer now. I do love the detail that all these surfer dudes are watching college sports. Yes, absolutely. Like, all of these fucking total beach bum guys are like, oh yeah, like the game stats that they start reeling off and they know

about the career ending knee injury. Like, very odd turn that these surf bums watch. Like, what are they? Do you think that there's like maybe a slight possibility that like the big time college football star who like you know lost an NFL career to a tragic injury and then you know worked hard to join the FBI gee I wonder if like the local local or national media covered that story at all just like college star gets his g man badge today but you know I guess these guys don't read the newspaper but um the other thing I like about

the opening shot of him coming to the FBI building in LA it's like you got john C McGinley being a prick like he's always great at doing but it's a really big there's a really good tracking shot as they move around the office and it like you sort of like departs from them and comes back together but then like McGinley being the asshole that he is he's like you know you may you may think you're a big dick and if you were full of cum and I'd like to get that come out of you boy but we we solve we solve bank robberies here based on data and data analysis and I love that because it's just like Johnny Utah's like I'm going to prove you wrong what if I saw bank robbing by being cool and learning how to serve absolutely what if I's dumb and full of cum what

if I solve them, they should milk them. What if I solve a bank robbery by coming and Lori Petty? What if that's how I solve something? Oh, you think My Come is a problem? Incorrect. My cum will be everywhere on this case. By the way, this movie is a really good portrayal about how being an undercover fed is a really great way to start

a long-term relationship with a woman. Oh, you even have a kid with her. They're definitely ending up together, of course. Use her childhood trauma against her to start. That's what you want to do. Oh, my. Flip those fucking table. In the pickup artist

community, we call that day game. Got it. Got it. Fed game. Yeah, my parents are also dead tragically. Yeah, how does she not just immediately be like, get the fuck out of here? If somebody came up to me and that was their line,

like she says it's a line, it would have to be a line, right? I wouldn't believe it for a minute. What, that someone has dead parents? Well, they were coming up and telling me about it and like, I need you need to help me learn how to surf because I have dead parents I think she's really saying yes

because he's hunky yes yes you're hunky enough they'll believe anything I think that's proven many times my parents were the same plane as yours they were in seats 24 F and 24G that's so fucking weird yeah the San Diego

plane crash we come to find out a sad story man but that's how like he would know he's gone to like a up too far. He's like, yeah, my parents were killed in a plane, I mean, car accident. I mean, the thing, what I like about the fact that, like,

we're talking about this stuff, like, yeah, how, like, it is really about how, like, Kiano's just a hunk that Lori Petty is, like, interested in. But, like, all, what I love about this movie is that, like, they, they present masculine codes and then they're like, it's all bullshit. Like, the spiritual thing

that Bodie has, is also bullshit? It's, well, I mean, it kind of, is bullshit when the mechanism shit starts starts up but like something like Angelo Pappas Gary Busey the great Gary Bucci He's phenomenal in this movie My name is Angelo Pappas

Figure that out Yeah no I was That was the biggest question I had in this movie I forgot his name was Angelo Pappas And is Gary this bucktooth fucking corn fed Gary Busey with his shock Blonde hair running around like he's some With a Greek last name

Yeah some Greek guy His whole name means angel priest. I looked up Pappas. Apparently it translates to priest in Greece. I mean, I buy it for the character. He is a priest of sorts. This movie needs him so bad because you just need a gut.

You know what I mean? Like there's so much hard body. So much like everybody is, you need something for the dad in the audience to be like, yeah, I washed out. That guy fucking rules. Like that's what I want to totally do.

Yeah, finally I can see my divorced ass on the screen. See, I remember like, I love this movie. when I was a kid. This is like a foundational action film of the 90s, but like I always, I always totally identified with Bucie's character because like, you know, I'm not, I'm not a beach person, you know, I don't like sand, you know. In the car with the sandwiches. Yeah, exactly,

but like that it's crucial. It's like there's a, there has to be kind of a love triangle in this movie. And I'm not talking about Lori Petty. But I mean, like, Bucie has to be the stand in. He's the father figure for Keanu. Right. And Boaty, Bodie, Patrick Swayze, is the daddy. figure. And it's about which one of these influences will you know, gain the affection and mold the life of this young stud. Because why would you turn to your

father when there's sexy father over here? I mean, I related to Gary Busey too, but it was mostly because of his absolutely well, shit or fantastic wardrobe. These shirts they got him in. It's just

I had trouble focusing on what was going on the movie because there's just just all kinds of shit on it. Is this part of the undercover thing? Well, I got to look like a beach guy. So I need one of these funny shirts. Everybody's wearing shirts at the beach. Or it's just like, oh, finally, I'm going undercover as someone who looks like me.

Like he's not undercover as, you know, a person who wears a suit to the office. I do love that he's a living joke in the office. I don't know. Dude, this fucking ridiculous hunk that just showed up that was in the fucking Rose Bowl last year. Put him with Pappas. I cannot be bothered. and let them, let them like actually kill themselves. I don't care.

And it's a great, it's a great thing too, right? Because in this movie, he's not, you know, Keanu's not partnered with the star of the department. He's partnered with the fucking washout, meatball sandwich loving dude that everybody hates. Keep in mind, this is the Los Angeles office. You know, this is one of the marquee, this is one of the marquee assignments of the bureau.

But what does John C. McGinley say to John in Utah when he first gets in the office? He's like, I make sure all my agents have good cardio and come gutters. And he's like, I'll take the scooters. off chicken, sir. So, I mean, if like, you know, a guy who's obviously the big, biggest hunk in America comes in work in the office, you know, all the other

daddies are going to, you know, shit on him. You know. I mean, when Pappas comes on, like, to have him introduced, like, it is funny that they're like, you have to do, like, he's blindfolded and asked to pick up bricks from the bottom of a pool.

It's Garibu's his swimming lesson. I don't think that's a real FBI thing. I think they're just fucking with Pappas. I'm like, how does this help things? How would you be in a situation where this would be important to do? If you were blinded? The exact same question. He's like, I don't know what this has to do with police work.

And you're like, I don't know either, man. But I bet you $1,000 you're going to hilariously jump in that pool, which he does. He does. He does like a side throw. It's like a quarter of a triple Lindy. Yeah. It does a quarter, Lindy. Yeah.

we meet the presidents of the United States not the excellent band but the ex-presidents the ex-presidents. The ex-presidents, yes. This is Gary Busey that we're reviewing the footage

of the robbery. Gary Busey got a great line here and then just like that they vanish like a virgin on prom day. Yep, absolutely. You need those lines. I just signs, I missed like that what I love about this

is that all the lines are really good. Like just I read somewhere that Matthew Broderick was supposed to play the Johnny Utah Park? I would... Can you just can you imagine

I am an FBI agent? First of all you're not you're not a fucking Rose Bowl MVP in being played by Matthew Broder. No, no. Yeah, he couldn't even be

the fucking kicker on the Rose Bowl team. Get out of here. There's not a no one of those beaches. They would have stomped him out instead. There's not enough Apple Carts in the world to have him stand next to Patrick's way.

All right? That's not going to ask. Yeah, no. Yeah. War Child, back off. You know what? Do whatever you're going to do, War Child. If you want to rip him a park, go right the fuck ahead. Oh, War Child. It kind of sucks that only James LaGrosse, uh, as Nixon is doing a presidential impression. Yep. He's only committed to the part, you know? I mean, he'll be doing it. I mean, and look, as they're running out of the bank and he says, I'm not a crook. I mean, like, that's a good line. But I mean, Carter, he could have had a joke about stagflation. You know,

Patrick Swayze can run out of the bank. Sweet money. You should have Patrick Swayze running out of the bank like as Reagan and he's just like, age your fake bye. Or his opening line is just like, nobody in here

is a fan of Jody Foster, are they? Just checking. Just checking. Wish that dude had better aim, unfortunately. He had perfectly fine aim. the two little small caliber pistol. Oh, that was the problem.

Oh, you're right. He didn't get him right in the chest. If he had a nine millimeter, he would have dissolved into dust. As Swayze as Reagan, the, you know, of course, Reagan is the leader of the ex-presidents. He should have come in and said, the scariest words in the English language are, I'm from the government, and I'm here to help. But that's going to be top now. If you move, I'm going to shoot you in the face with this 44 caliber magnum handgun I have. That's another cool thing about this.

movie is that before, before it is revealed who the ex-presidents are and you only know them as their presidential characters, they are identified by each having a really cool gun and not just like a standard movie gun. Swayze's got that big pistol, like a cowboy style like Colt 44. And then

one of them has the styre, you know, like the ultimate henchman in Die Hard, he rocks one of those. And then the classic pump, classic pump shoddy, but it's just, it's Bigelow's like she likes guns. She's got a sense for perversity and violence, and that's what makes her such a good director.

Well, it's the same thing when they do the fake, or not fake, the failed titsap raid on the neo-Nazi, you know, surf-Nazis place, because that is like when they're getting all their shit together and he's like, they're getting a whole army together in there, whatever it is. It is like, you don't see the same weapon twice. Yes, exactly, exactly. I love it. Oh, wait, no, it's one of the war child guys that has the styre, but. Yeah.

Yeah. And then and then the shotgun with the drum magazine on it. Oh, come on my God. Now we're talking. Isn't there a, there's an IMDB but for guns and movies, right? Yeah. This would be a good, good one to look up. I think it's literally the IMGB. You can even believe it. Makes sense. So, you know, someone makes a passing reference to Pappas's like theory about who the ex presidents are. And Keanu finally, you know, wears him down and gets him to tell him. And he's like, I think the ex-presidents are surfers. And he's, like, so ready to tell this fucking theory to Keanu. And I love this whole setup. They're watching the footage. They're definitely still at the office.

You better believe we're drinking coronis at night. Oh, yeah, drinking at work. I do love that, like, Keanu is just like, wait, so you think that these guys are surfers? Like, guys who are like, hang 10 surf guy? Unlike regular FBI agents, like, he does the surf guy voice and nothing changed. Sounds exactly like that. another thing I like about this movie as like a

quintessential 90s action movie is that it communicates you know like a certain fear that you know the rise in alternative lifestyles like grunge music or skateboarding could lead to you know extremes and a need for more extremes

which would lead to extreme crimes like skateboarding crimes or grunge crimes and then yes indeed surfing crimes oh yeah And the most dangerous of all Which are skydiving crimes Oh yeah

Because that's the most extreme The easiest way to get on the crime wave Is surfing, you know Yeah You know there was a starter pack By the way The skydiving version of this movie Wesley Snipes drop zone

Yes Which came out only a few years later Also features Gary Busey Of course But it's the bad guy Yes He basically plays Patrick Swayze's character in that movie Yes. Yeah, exactly. And he gets to have his cake and eat it to and also skydive.

Steve, you're just saying your father wasn't like an extreme skydiver back in the 90s, right? He was. Yeah, his license plates had I skydive for about a decade until he stopped doing it. Yeah. So when they, so they have to, after the bank robbery happens, they do the drop car and they do the surfer thing. I like how he has to get as dumb as Utah. Busey has to get as dumb as Utah to like, want to do this. Because he's like, are you mad? Are you mad as me? Okay, let's do us now. Let's just be fucking stupid and do it. Well, it's his whole thing of like, you got to feel it in your blood, man. Yeah. No, thank you. I did so sex wax. Did everybody when they were younger see this in stores and be like, they just let that stuff out in the in the front? Like when I was

can they do that? Yeah. Really? What do is, is all this stuff for sex? You get a good wax on your dome and that prevents pregnancy I believe. That's where I was at. I was like damn, I got a world to fucking discover here. Well, you discovered some of that some of them on your schvance there, you know, and then it like hardens up like those shells you'd put

on ice cream cones. Right. That's what you're saying. You can start getting a little soft and it won't matter. It's brilliant. Yeah, it keeps going. You get that. The fear of just fucking you with this hollow thin dildo basically is what you say. It's been done. But to Johnny, you

goes undercover by driving from his actual apartment in his actual car to a different part of town and then giving people his actual name. That is what undercover police work is all about. He's got like the FBI like fucking law enforcement parking sticker on the windshield. Well, that's what I don't mind that. They don't show the scene when Lori Petty finds his badge because that's like so like rushed at the end of the movie. But I just want her to like take a piss at his apartment and then just see all of his graduation photos and be like, wait a second. That'd be funny if he like He kept showing up to the surfing beaches

And to hang out with Lori Petty wearing Instead of just in a suit wearing one of those FBI windbreakers With just FBI on the back of it No I'm just I swear It stands for female body instead Yeah they just They've like freshly fucked

And he's still come drunk And she's like oh geez I need a t-shirt Can I borrow one of yours? He's like yeah In the dresser top drawer And it's just all fucking like Quantico T-shirt But I mean look what I want is like like anyone to ask him about this fucking law

job he has and watch this dude fumble through an explanation you know what dude it's one question oh so what kind of law do you practice the law kind sports yeah sports law sports law

so he goes to the beach so his whole thing is like yeah get in good with the surfers because Busey's the theory about you know they rob four months out of the year and then they're out of here oh they must be following the surf or whatever. So he goes and surfs and fucks it up immediately and almost kills himself

10 seconds on the job and is saved by Lori Petty which is playing Tyler in this movie. Yeah. Did you love Lori Petty. She's great and she was, this is during like her hate this and league of her own are like she's so fucking good in them. Hey,

Tank Girl. Not far away. Take girl anyone? Tank girl. Yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of fun. Oh my God. But then eventually in the army now. Yeah. Oh, I forgot. She's the third in that movie. She starts. Yeah. I mean, she just, she just flamed out because she became like 38 years old, which is

not allowed. How dare she? It's a shame. Now you have to go to Netflix. Sorry, you're going to be on Orange's New Black for four seasons. Hey, she was just on Station 11. Oh, she was? Oh, cool. I got to that. You see it. That's another reason for me to check it out. I love the great.

I'm Johnny Utah. Who cares? She fucking yells at him. It's great. Did you? So, James Cameron, got Catherine Bigelow this job essentially because Blue Steel fucking tanked even though very good movie

I have to I have to imagine what he was drawn to so like I imagine him in the editing bay with her and just being like you want to hang on

to those water shots a little longer just like get off my set Jim Cameron get off my set but this is really good this is the good stuff Catherine

I don't know about this gun stuff but what if he was a blue cop Can he swim? I mean, Bodey was like the original Way of Water mindset. Totally. It's the source, man. He doesn't have the dreads, though.

He doesn't have the magnificent dreads. I'd like to fuck you with a blue tail or whatever. What I think about the way of water is that it goes in cycles. It's true. Yeah, so he's just doing, you know, he seduces her by using her dead parents against her,

want to do. And she starts giving him lessons. We've got a fun surfing montage. Which is nice. It's two sexy people in wetsuits. It's not too shit. I love that everyone is making fun of Keanu's surfboard. Yeah. It sucks. The thing is shit. God's a shit board, man.

Matt, you get that. Fucking thing, bro. You're in California. You know, you know those pig surfboards are bullshit, man. Fucking pig boards. I have known. He has a, he has a Mickey Mouse surfboard. but I also love that how he's like instantly clocked as not a surfer and not from California

just because he's not blonde. He's the only not blonde person in this movie other than Lori Petty. Like at this point, if you're living out there, man, Johnny Utah, like it's at least sunkissed at this point in some way. And you'd think someone named Johnny Utah would be blonde.

I also notice there's a scene where Lori Petty and like earlier in their courtship when he's trying to get her to teach him to surf. She's like, okay, city boy. It's like, city boy, aren't you from like Orange County or something? What are we talking about?

He's from Ohio. Yeah, he says he's from Ohio, which she later also refers to his Kansas, which is fair. He just mixed it up. This is the, he gets invited to a fun beach party with all of the bank robbers. And we're playing football. Beach football. That was a great, it was a great plan with the boys style. sequence, but I just, I just thought, like, think how much better that scene would have been

if they were playing dog fight beach football, like in Top Gun Maverick. Oh, yeah. Offense and defense simultaneously. Hell yeah. I mean, it's, it's great. It's great watching the athleticism of Patrick Swayze right here, too. Oh, he's got a killer bot as well. Oh, yeah.

Oh, he looks great. And then he tackles Swayze and they all roll up on him. And they're like, what the fuck, man? We were just having a good time. and he's like, hey, don't you know who this is? It's Johnny freaking Utah, you know, and they're like, oh, wow. Like, you know, MVP of the Rose Bowl, they all turn into fucking, like, Kirk Herb Street. Like, you know, fucking split second.

Oh, wow, number nine. They're remembering the number. Well, these are. That's really. This is a type of burnout I'm unfamiliar with the jock burnout. Like, I'm more, like, you go to some dude's house and you play Mario Party and get stoned. Yeah, video game burn. Yeah, exactly.

Just melted into a couch kind of a scenario. The idea that you would do something with somebody. else, it's physical, I guess that they would watch the movie. Yeah, this is like someone actually meeting Mario to do your analogy. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, it's a great sequence. Soundtrack to the worst

cover of smoke on the water I've ever heard in my life. I will just, aside from the one concrete blonde song when Lori Petty is getting changed, the soundtrack is pretty weak, I think. The concrete blonde song is very good. You end with a rat tune, though. Yeah, that's

are a double T. Absolutely. I remember the scene where Utah is first trying to surf and like the chorus of the song is like, I don't fall off. Hope I keep standing on this surfboard. I don't fall over. Don't want to fall. I will not fall. I will not fall. It's just an instructional manual. They're playing on tape. That's right. So Keanu gets some information here where it's like, oh, and all these bank robberies,

the only thing left behind at one point was a hair. They do some chemical analysis. And he has this idea, oh, like surfing. are territorial. Why don't we go to some of these closed beaches that are, you know, shut down due to water pollution and we'll get some hair samples and try to see if these are the guys. And there's this like quick couple of scenes of both

Keanu and Gary Busey's stealing hair from people, which is awesome. There should have been a, uh, some sort of ex-mose about that in the local news. Totally. The dudes run around the beach, cutting hair without a warrant in the Southlands. I just want Gary Busey in a fucking urinal.

This is pub. we'll figure it out. They missed a beat. This is a pew. The FBI, I mean, good cops, good feds that they are. They missed a beat by like every beach has the outside shower where you pull the thing and wash the salt water off of you. Just fish around in the drain of that thing.

Think how much fucking hair is stuck in there. It's just a hair collector. Totally. In a public beach, fucking forget it. You'll be there for days getting that shit out. Only to evade the headline former college football stars stealing air from random denizens. the beach. You don't want to see that. Yeah, I'm into weird sex stuff. I collect hair from drains.

Oh, dude, you've got a bug on your back. I'm like, are you hitting on me right now? Like, you know what I mean? That's my business if I've got a bug on my back. The dude who's like the lab tech who tells them like what the chemicals are and that hair that they find, do you catch, it's the guy. Jeffrey Labowski's landlord. Hell yeah. He recently passed away, I found out, just in May. I couldn't believe it. It's too bad. Yeah, R-PD. But, yeah, so this is

where he, because of the hair collecting, it's like, oh, now I've run afoul of Anthony Ketus and these other surf Nazi dudes. And this is a great, like, we're just getting in a fight on the beach, which is awesome. Gary Busey almost blows the fucking undercover shit right here, too.

This might be my favorite. Like, it's just like, I hear it and I'm like, what? Like, back off War Child. a man named War Child. It's not going to compute. I'm sorry. That's like from an image comic from like 1993. Back off War Child.

Draught by Rob Leifield. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Huge chest muscles. Speaking of lines that stick in my head, it's a shame Anthony Kedis didn't get more line reads in this movie because he really kills it when he was like, that would be a waste of time.

He's like doing a Christopher Walken impression or something. It's not quite sure. When to say the words. Yeah. Thankfully, War Child saves it in the end that we're just going to kick your ass. He had a little career.

He was in the Charlie Sheet movie, The Chase. The Chase. I think he showed up on married with children a couple of times or something like that. The Chase is a future episode. Yes. Isn't the chase both him and flee?

Yes. They're in a truck and they're part of the police are pursuing them in the chase and then they join in as like vigilante. Yeah. The OG Buffy, what's your name? Oh, Christy Swanson. Right, she plays Dalton Voss's

daughter. I know character names in that movie. There's that sex scene where they're like just fucking in the car. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but to your point. Teenage years remember that. The fact nobody finds this enormous Star Wars style fucking walkie talking that he's got on.

It's like it's on. It's in this hollering like, how is nobody computing that? There's Patrick Swayze's right there. And you're like, fucking Gary Musick. Utah, come in, Utah, come in. I'm just listening to AM radio. I just like Rush Limba, okay? No, I mean, like, and it's Gary Busey. Like, he can't whisper. It's not possible. No, definitely not. It's just the barking. Him barreling down those stairs and then being caught for like, oh, oh, oh, you're seeing a kids.

There's a kid that's, uh, stoma radio. He's just putting it together as he goes. It's great. but Swayze is you know he comes in and saves the day here because Kianu's kind of getting he holds his own for a while these Nazis are beating him up and then you know he starts getting his ass handed to him Bode comes in and we get to see this is some like Patrick Swayze's pseudo martial arts yeah but not really he's doing some he's doing some sort of like very let's be honest so he's got you know he's got a great physique but it was some some weak looking kicks he was laying down on Anthony Key some weak sort of like you know side roundhouse you know dance kicks you know it's the kicks of a dancer you know that's it doesn't it's not going to take you down or anything but yeah it thank god fucking swayzey because it wastes all these guys he knew you know he knew like 12 karate moves and he did them in every movie he used it in the outsiders where they had to like write it into s e hintons the outsider this dude oh they took karate classes in like 1950s dirt iowa sure absolutely it's crazy like in that scene too in a ghost where like whoopi goes inside him and she's like oh by the way i took karate class and then it's

Patrick Swayze doing karate, but as Wuppie Goldberg possessing him doing karate? I'd like that. I would like that. I would like that. I would like to be possessed by a ghost for karate purposes. Yeah, only. That's only the one I would do. Yeah. Dude, karate ghosts. Well, actually, karate goes, that's kind of Ninja 3 of the domination. Yeah. Yeah. Classic film.

Oh, yeah. It's classic film. But yeah, when Busey runs down the stairs, yeah, it's this like, what do you do? Oh, I mean, have you seen kids who stole my radio? Like, it's like, man, get it together. How about some professionalism? No wonder you were the fucking departmental joke, dude. Well, I mean, what's so amazing is like, so these guys beat him up. And then he's just like, they're the robbers.

Like immediately, he's like, Johnny Utah, dumbass is just like, well, they're the bad guys. They have to be the bad guys. Not this beautiful man who I've just met. It cannot be him. They follow these guys home and they show them in this fucking like war rig from Fury Road. they're waving back and forth through traffic and then sliding into the park like the parking on the front yard of the house

like yeah these guys definitely pulled off 28 bank robberies in three years successfully and nobody got away every time for sure they got it together it doesn't make a lot of sense and John C. McGinley is like on fire furious about how long this is. It's been two weeks Johnson McGinley

this is a fucking crime that's been they say they've done like 27 of these things or something yeah yeah it's been over a couple summers it's gonna take a month they needed a they needed some sort of throwaway line to establish a backstory where like surfers you know

killed his parents or harassed him in school or something that'd be great that would be yeah he was he was beaten with a surfboard in the alley of a bar or something he pulls up his shirt he's got three little spikes in the exact moment a little scar situation but I mean like the the the McKinley part's

interesting, but it does it because of Catherine Bigelow's love for authority, like, you need to push that further, like, because at the end when Utah throws his badge away, like, you need to set up that, like, the FBI is actually worse than these dudes who are just fucking enjoying

the ride. Well, yeah, you see, the FBI is part of the system that crushes the human spirit and bank, robbing banks and surfing or would liberate the human spirit. And, you know, and then for like the, the work-a-day Joe's out there, when they hear about banks getting robbed or just people surfing

and they go you know what there's still hope there's still hope out there I could be like that when they're driving to work in their metal coffins or whatever which is also a great life my God yes

it is inspiring it inspires human hope and it's a shame I guess bank robbery is kind of passe these days huh yeah but I don't see so much so he's going to a party

at Patrick Swayze's house there's a huge fucking honest to goodness raid scheduled for the morning, which people do remind him when he shows up late. It's his raid. It's actually your raid that you are going to be laid to. He shouldn't

fucking be there. Yeah, he's the undercover guy. Why is he at the raid? Busey says to him like, yeah, you just cover the back entrance, but just like kind of hang back because we don't want to blow your cover. Like you think Warchild, a guy he fought just a day before

is not going to recognize the guy who arrested him as the dude he saw on the beach the day before. As soon as he gets the central booking, he's going to tell someone. And you don't think that's going to get back to Bodie? But like, I mean, you know, like, hey, look, we've all been in our 20s, working jobs. You know, you stay at a little too late with your improv team, getting drunk, you know, having a good time. And maybe you blow the meeting the next morning. But nobody has a fucking shotgun at your throat.

Well, also that Gary Busey's like, oh, you better go home and get a good night's sleep. We got an early morning tomorrow. Better go to a surfing party. But that, but his response. as being undercover, like, go to that party. That's what you're fucking doing, Johnny, Utah. And, of course, going into the party, we hear the song that has blessed so many senior yearbooks in the quotation pages, Jimmy Hendrix's, if six was a nine. Oh, yeah.

I mean, if I get kissed with a, if I get to do that tequila shot trick, I'm really happy. I'd probably fumble it. Oh, well, that looked fun. Yeah, I mean, I'd probably spit it all out immediately, but, you know. You do what you can. But at this party is where Bode, you know, they have a little like campfire out on the beach. And Bodey's explaining all the stuff about like Bell's Beach, Australia. And that's where the big ones coming.

And, you know, setting up the last moments of the movie, of course. It's funny. It's like, if I ever had to run away from here, I'd go exactly to this address. And he reminds, he reminds Johnny Utah. It's not tragic to do, to die doing what you love. Keep that in your back pocket. Just it from the internet ticker. James LaGroes, the great James LaGroes.

You love Legros. He's fantastic and everything. He has to be an adrenaline junkie because he's married to Christina Loja, the daughter of Robert Loja. Dude, oh my God. Actually wanting to have Christmas with Robert Loja, that's a fucking death wish, dude. Welcome back to Christmas with Robert Loja. I can't even, dude, I can't even imagine. Just like fucking sweating through your shirt at every Thanksgiving.

No way. Sounds like another great party. do that right after the surf. I know who paid for this Thanksgiving dinner, don't you? Orange juice. I think Keanu's makes the very smart decision here to walk away from all the talk of surfing places we'd love to go and go in romance Lori Petty. Hell yeah. In this empty room that they have in the back. And this is what, I mean, I think, I mean, there's a couple really good surfing montages scenes in this movie. The night surfing scene might be my favorite. Night surfing's great, but it comes right after he gets fucking ridiculously cockbacked by Patrick Swayze Because they're talking about the, you know,

it's okay to die doing what you love or whatever And Lori Petty's like, hey, little too much testosterone for me And she gets up from the campfire And gives Kianu the old hand on the shoulder as she walks away Like let's fucking go And then he follows a little later And they're right there in that room And I was like, boom, here it goes, come on

And then Patrick Swayze runs right in And he's like, night surf, night surf, night surf and it's like I'm about to get my fucking dick sucked here buddy come on I thought there was going to be a threesome but oh shit hey you know nice now we're talking the night surf is awesome but it's also

the worst day for night I've ever seen like it is oh I thought it was good day for night actually you're never going to not notice it Steve there's not true there's no such thing as flawless day for night and you don't want to be putting actors out swimming at night dude but that of course leads to him boning Lurie Petty on the beach

oh yeah and they all go to the diner while they he'd like leave the fire for them. You know what? He tried to get him away from Lori Pettie Patrick Swayzey but Bodie tried to get it away. But he's like, you know what? He won. Keep the fire here. They're clearly

going to fuck. They're still out there. Just doing the thing. And we're going to go have diner food and maybe rob a bank. My favorite role here because listen, I'm not I'm not surfing. If you know, when I would be dead in this movie is like in the first scene, I would be killed surfing. But Lee Turgerson's

role of dude laying by fire and kind of just kicking it every now and again that's a job I could do for the surf team absolutely just to be clear violent kidnapper over a surfer as far as what you would like to do oh of course Chris come on it's not me a

I would prefer a surfer I'd just say I would grab someone in that moment you know I'm not surfing I'm just I'm kicking the fire around fair point I was gonna say it's funny because just just last night I was flying back from Florida and the movie I watched on the plane was Wayne's

world. And it's funny because Lee the Mechanism, Turgisand basically plays the exact same character in Wainsworth. He's Wayne and Garth's mechanism and he has basically the exact same haircut in Wainsworth as he does in Point Break. But yeah, so this is the raid. And this scene is fucking excellent, even though it's

insane. Again, yeah. He's like, I do love with Keanu's like, I better stay out back so no one notices me at this fucking enormous reign. I also love that the FBI is congregating and some guys like, well, well, Might as well mow my lawn. Yep.

Could someone talk to him? With a push mower that is also gas power? Do those ever exist? I don't know. It's a maybe there was a bridge between those technologies, but it is a beautiful machine. I imagine that would be the guy who would absolutely like, once Johnny Utah and Warchild are on his lawn.

He's like, fuck, is that Johnny Utah? Hey man, can I get your fucking autograph? I didn't see this movie in a while, but I mean, like, I saw this movie. I watched this movie all the time. when I was a kid, but like rewatching it, like the images, the scenes in the movie that stood out in my head more than anything

when I just thought about point break are both from this raid scene. One is Anthony Keita shooting his foot off. Oh yeah. Two is Keanu Reeves' face almost getting pushed into a running lawnmower. Like that made my hair stand on edge when I was a kid. And three is the lady in the shower. Oh yeah. Let's not forget all the nudity.

And you know, Matt, Matt, you and I have talked about this. This is like early 90s, still kind of the 80s. In every action movie, there needed to be a scene of gratuitous boobage. Had to have it. You're not getting a green light unless you give me something where there's tiths.

And I think maybe this is a nod to Bigelow as the director is that like she always has to kind of like, there's a one-upsmanship there because she's sort of in a boys club. So it's not just that she's giving you the boobage. She's going to add an extra level of sadism and make the odd the the the boobage, the object of boobery turn into a psycho and start stabbing people

and going insane and then having to get knocked out beat the shit out of Johnny Utah it's not just a male director would have just had a woman in a shower and had her kits out and going and then scream away but like no like she gets in on the fucking carnage yeah the boobs are not

the boobs you think are in danger but they're dangerous boobs yes yes exactly if you are ranking ranking the victims of the raid she's number two like War Child is number one because he almost fucking pushes Keanu's face

under the lawnmower. Number two has to be this lady. Then number four is probably Anthony Kedis. And then five, not applicable as Tom Seisborne. Also, that one and her character's name is freight train.

Oh boy. She's played by Julie Michaels who is the stripper in another Patrick Swazey movie, Roadhouse. Wow. That's talking about formative films for me. that scene and the VHS copy of it. We're out the tracking, did you? Oh, God.

And I think I like about the raid scene is that it just proves that John C. McGinley and all the other dickhead G-Men at the fucking Los Angeles office are exactly right about Utah and Pappas. They have no fucking clue what they're doing. They have asked this whole thing. They're walkie-talkies and whole communication

get undone by a fucking lawnmower. And then he just immediately gets the woman who answers the door killed. Immediately. Just gunned down. It's like the lead. And, like, his whole brilliant plan for gaining entrance to their house is to pretend his fucking dog is missing. Oh, man. Hey, Scooby! Scooby! It's so dumb.

And I just love it. I love the woman at the door giving him shit. Like, fuck you, man. I don't know where your dog is. Get out of my house. But, yeah, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the radies are smartly, like, let's bring out every gun we've ever seen in their lives, uh, which rules. And I think we're only missing, like, a rocket launcher. Yeah, as far as, like, the lineup of golden eye weapons.

And this, yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely. is the golden gun golden gun one shot one kill dude free trade was sloppers only and she got pretty far well another another really cool part about this scene

and you know I know Matt must have clocked this the wonderful use of squibs in this movie and the really really good headshot on that one guy who's like I'll kill this bitch man and then fucking Busey just gets like

just gets about like a half a second glance at his forehead and it's boom, right in the fucking middle of his forehead. And you can see like the fucking, like the crater it made and like the stippling and shit. Oh, except no substitutes. No, it's the best thing. I am so sad those things. You don't see.

I mean, that's why I like ambulance so much is because they actually squibs again. Yes. Like I got so excited. And I was like, oh, my God. This is the best movie I've ever seen. It's fucking fantastic. You were excited. The dude who runs the fucking Squib factory was thrilled, dude.

What are you kidding? He can have a Christmas. We're back open, boys. Exactly. We got to talk now, though, about probably the coolest payoff to this whole botched raid scenario is the brief appearance of Tom Seismore. As an undercover company, he's like, hey, you assholes. He's like, these guys, I had him on the week for, I've had him on the line for three months. They were going to sell me two pounds of crystal meth.

And I just like to think that like, that wasn't a role. That was just Tom Seismore. Like, oh, Tom Seismore, what are you doing here? Like, he was just on a, he was just on the sale, like, on like a different. set blundered into theirs and he was like you motherfuckers I was trying to buy meth you blew it

why are you fucking doing a movie right now I got a meth deal in five minutes get the fuck out of here I told my guy I was going to meet him here what the fuck are you doing I yeah I mean when Tom Seiswore is the guy that's on his shit

you are totally off base dude oh yeah when he's telling you what procedure is you're a fucking asshole and he's furious right because he's like look I've been undercover for months my wife's got me sleeping at the fucking Ramada

You just saw me when this, when this scene started, the camera caught me pouring beer into a bowl of Cheerios for breakfast, which is great. That is an awesome little detail. I have to ask, has anybody tried that? No. Tomorrow, I will. I did when I was, because I was stupid. You did. Yeah. Today? Not to do. No, this is back like in my 20s. You were a genius. No, I was very stupid. Okay. So, this is disgusting. Chris Daven, run it down. How was it? Terrible. Absolutely garbage. What kind of Cheerios you're talking about here? It was a honey-not Cheerios. Oh, that's better off. I remember growing up and being at a friend's house and his mother, they didn't have milk and she was like, just put orange juice in it.

I'm like, what? What? Did you call fucking CPS on that? I tried and they hung up on me. I mean, yeah, it's just, it was, I just had seen it on like multiple movies and like, it's supposed to be like, look, this is what the cool guy does.

And I was like, let's give a shot. And it was awful. You should try it now. You're older now. Maybe your palates. I do have the lawnmower is like this should be the finale of any other movie because it's point break. It's in minute 29. You know what I mean?

It's sort of like we got other we got to the shit happening. The only time you see shit like this happen in mini 29 is in like a fucking Argento movie. Yes, exactly. Also, the fact that Pappas shows up to rescue Johnny Utah from half an inch, his face is a half an inch for being shredded. instead of just shooting Warchild in the fucking head he does some Annie Oakley shit where he shoots the motor

of the fucking of the mower what is how do you have that's just you're asking for him to get owned right there you're asking for his face to get turned into bullionades no it's and it's loss you're adding a lawsuit to everything else

that fucked up today because now you got to replace my mower motherfucker gas mower got to fucking be replaced this is the only one of these of its kind that's slower that has a fucking a boater for some reason this guy's the neighbor comes out he's just like what the

fuck that was a prototype yeah he's an inventor dude oh yeah next to this neo Nazi house it's just a house with a wacky inventor he's 50 years like papa's 50 years old probably hung over probably filled like he probably ate like three gallons of stew

right before three eight or something I'm gonna go for a trick shot here what don't you trust your guy so much. You're like, oh, if I do the trick shot, then he'll punch Warchild. And then I'll say good job, kid, as opposed to, I don't know, everything, maybe the thing explodes

and kills the boat. Right. I don't know what's that. Bucie putting the gun in War Child's face that was great. He's like, speaking to the microphone, squid brain. Fucking awesome. The Tom Seismore, the Tom Seismore thing also tells you, like, how fucking stupid the goddamn

FBI is. They didn't talk to the DEA. I mean, I know this is the era of like, oh, the fucking FBI. The FBI, Dom's the police department And the CIA or the DEA Dom's the FBI And I get that But I'm like you you fucked this up

You didn't talk to anybody about what this was They should have been fired after this Like no question yes Like everyone oh Johnson McGilley He's such a jerk The fact that they weren't fired Proves that he's not He had every right and justification to do so

Well it's like the day after Waco They're still looking for fucking Those dudes are still like Looking for Christian Fundamentalists Like no no you're on another fucking dude. You fuck this one up just enough. You've got to go to the other state. I'm sorry. They put, well, Kianu puts it together in the best way possible here.

They go for another, it's an early morning swim or surf. And they're going down to the beach. And James LaGroes is like making some joke. And he moons them. And he remembers the security footage of James LaGroes mooning them in the bank robbery. And he's like, oh my God, I'd know that ass anywhere. There's time. The ex-presidents literally showing their ass and blowing it. And the word ghost.

That's the thing that really triggers it. Which makes no fucking set. That's a dumb one. The ass one, I mean, is also stupid, but at least it's the same ass. Yeah. You remember an ass. The ghost thing, because she's like,

what? You look like you've seen a ghost. And then of course you have to see you. But he's like, these guys are ghosts. Remember everybody? Remember being five? Been in five. Remember when I said, ghost.

I said the word ghost. and then Keanu's really terrible or Utah rather is really terrible here at cover he's like I just forgot I have a meeting bye first meeting with a client in sports law

that's where we're going back to it so he starts a goalie right now and he's tailing him for a little bit there's a weird thing here to catch when Keanu's like oh yeah I followed him all over the place he got lunch at Patrick's Roadhouse Of course

All right Here's my question though I'm not if you guys Remember seeing this movie For the first time But I'm wondering I wasn't But was anyone who watched

This movie for the first time Ever shocked to find out That Swayze and his crew Were actually the ex-preson There's no other way The movie could work I mean no I mean like It's the way they set it up

Like you know Warchild And Anthony Kedis He's being a little bit of the misdirection or whatever like, what did you think Patrick Spaces is going to help him stop the surfing crimes? No. It's also like a kind of a bad misdirection because you know those guys aren't

organized enough to pull it off. I think the first time I saw this movie, someone had explained it to me as, oh, it's a movie where Keanu Reeves infiltrates a surfer gang who's bank robbing and Patrick's. And so I think I knew all of that going in. So it was like

spoiled or whatever beforehand. I mean, well, you go in and like the first fucking, the Reagan comes in I hear Patrick Swayze say something. I'm like, oh, that's Patrick Swayzy. Like, it's just you can't do anything about it. The idea that the next morning, he, you know, he explains to Pappas, like, hey, this is the guys. They happen to be my best friends.

But, you know what, actually be fucking around for this entire movie actually worked out. And the fact that he is the guy that is staking this out, again, absolutely should not be because they know your name, your address and your fucking social security number. dude, like anyone else needs to be at this fucking steakout. It's 10.30 in the morning. You're just on the city street, clear as day. You know, everyone can fucking see you. You're walking down to buy lunch in front of the bank. What is this Gary Beasie thing?

He's like, when the scene starts, he's like, oh, Calvin and Hobbes. Okay, yeah, we need to talk about that because obviously as a kid, like me and my friends would do the Utah. Give me two. That was just like, you know, in our everyday, you know, discourse and conversation. We would find a way to work that in. Somehow I totally forgot

that the scene opens with him guffawing like a maniac at the Sunday Funnies and saying, man, that Calvin and Hobbs is funny. And I'm just like, he's just looking at like,

and then right at the end, like right before like the, they see the bank robbery, he's still looking at the fucking funnies and he just goes, ha ha ha ha ha ha. And then he just goes, oh boy.

He's like fucking looking at, he's looking at family circus or something. Oh, Barbadikis, he's too big. God damn. Utah, you wouldn't believe what Billberts up to this week. And honestly, I gotta say,

I thought Utah get me too is the iconic line of this movie. But like watching it now, on this viewing, it's, for me, it's man, that Calvin and Hobbs is funny. I think Bucie is doing some sort of like Bucie improv at the end of that because it's like he's supposed to be, I guess, reading the punchline of a strip that we don't see. Because he's like, turkey cemetery.

What the fuck are you talking about? Cow tools. That don't make no sense. Officer down, officer down. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I think gasoline alley is totally underrated. Kathy wants chocolate again. He just starts in on a far side book too.

Hasn't had enough. Oh my God. Those cows are at the bank. I do. It's a great moment of character distinction where Keanu goes to get a a tuna on toast, you know what I mean? A real adult's breakfast. On wheat.

On wheat. Of course. Absolutely. Two lemonade's too. 10.30 in the morning lemonade. I don't know about that either. I know it's supposed to be like a sandwich shop, but it has more of the look of like a place where you just get hamburger, hot dogs, and fries. I was kind of a surprise they had a tuna and wheat on like.

Well, it's asking you to suspend disbelief to that moment. I don't. I will not. I love the shot though when he's at the foodstress. in placing the order and we kind of just do a little pan right and you see the car pull up which is really great. So Keanu's back is to it so

he doesn't see them pull up. Another piece of stellar police work. The only thing we're supposed to do during this entire day is watch this fucking bang. Well it's realistic. I'm only going to go get some treats. I'm going to turn my back away from the bank basically act like it isn't there.

We were eaten. Sorry about the crime. And then by the way, another I notice is Utah, he's ordering his tuna on whole wheat and the two meatball subs. And like, okay, like, it's a great moment. Like, he's turned around, he's making the order. The car pulls up, the ex-presidents

pile out with guns drawn, run into the bank. Utah then turns around. And what does he see an empty car idling in front of a bank? And then he, what does he do? He goes right back to the car with Busey, and he's like, here's your sandwich. Nothing to report.

Here's the one that looks like a road kill, which I think is a botched Kianu line, because then Gary Busey kind of makes fun of him, and he's like, oh, a road kill. And I think it just got left in, which is sort of the night. Here's your head, which you've been buried in, you've been buried in that

newspaper. Functionally, both of our eyes have been closed this entire time. Why even be there? Why even be there? He gets like two bites into this meatball sub. He's like, maybe we should check it out. Oh, they're coming out. Shit. Oh, fuck. And then you know, the meatball sob is

going all over Busey. Oh, yeah. That sure is ruined. That shit. They've got Marinare down there thing. But so they've, they've leave the bank and, uh, like any good law enforcement officer in America, Keanu just starts firing down the street at the fucking car, of course. Smart moves. The second you scream FBI, you need to start thinking about subletting the apartment you showed these guys. Like that's, that's in the back, you know, definitely you're looking for head shots, but you're like, all right. So if I, maybe if I can go down, down the beach a little bit, you know, you have to move. you have to move.

And we get a nice little chase scene here. First, in the car. They try to ditch the car at a gas station, which is awesome. Oh, my God. I love this way he's just lighting this fucking car on fire. Yeah, the scene where he's like, we have to do some, what does he say,

emergency, like a trash disposal or something like that. Yeah. So like, he's like, first of all, he douses the gas station attendant with gasoline and then breaks out a zippo and he's like, don't do it, man. Don't do it.

Then he uses the zippo to light the nozzle on the gas pump and then he just sprays this, fucking beautiful just arc of flame into this fucking car and when I first saw this movie like you know as a kid I was so blown away by the scene because I was like wow gas stations are everywhere

I've even used the gas pump but like if you if you were sufficiently committed every gas station is just a flamethrower store too that's true but that's why Bigelow is fantastic is she takes the time to show how gorgeous and insane and chaotic

this is and a lot of action movies just wouldn't have that moment of like an inventive gasoline flame throw. Another thing I really want to credit Bigelow for in this scene is like it's the car chase, but then there is one of the rare, very successful and very thrilling foot chases in a movie. Because usually a foot chase in a movie kind of grinds the action to a halt. They never really work in my opinion. Whereas this is like very claustrophobic. It's exciting. Why

does it work? Because there's a ton of property damage and a ton of dumbass civilians getting their shit owned. Right. That's like that's that's the mark of a good action movie is that in the midst of all the mayhem of a car chase, they take time to show innocent civilians also suffering and or dying. Yes. And the whole Steadicam and you're running down those corridors

it is fantastic. On the gas nozzle thing, me and my brother as children kind of re-tried this? Yes. We filled not at a gas station. We filled up a miracle grow like spray thing with gas and set it on fire and it worked

and we somehow didn't I think there's a really cool. There's a reality where I'm actually dead right now. Touched by God, I would say. So much of that foot chase is successful because, you know, parts of it look different. You know, Will, like you were saying, they encounter different people. There's different houses they go in. So parts of it are memorable.

So you can say like, oh, yeah, there's the hilarious part where the lady is hitting him in the head with the vacuum cleaner. You're screaming like, get the fuck out of it. Like you remember parts of it. it's not just like, and then I jumped over that fence. Dude, somebody. He jumped over that fence. Catherine Bigelow took the time to storyboard throwing a fucking dog at somebody. Yes.

Yes. And speaking of Matthew Broderick, someone should have thrown one at Ferris Bueller. Well, speaking of car accidents in Matthew Broder. Yeah. That dude is a murderer. Yeah, sure. So, yeah, the aftermath of this whole, you know, shit shows. Busey's like, hey,

I don't want to be a dick or nothing but I think you made friends with these surfers. Like, yeah, no shit, dude. And he's the only one who's like, maybe you should not be as close to this as you are. And that whole discussion lasts two seconds. But again, when you do the thing,

Kiano, when you bust his knee up, because we know that his knees busted and he does the bunch parodin pot fuzz, shoot at the sky bit. Oh, sure. You cannot return. You're at the Ramada. Yeah, that's it. Just at the fucking Ramada. You're burned. Yes, you're done. They're reassigning you to the Omaha office check fraud.

You're done. I don't even know what the reasoning is. Is the reasoning because they think that he might not know, like that... How would he not know? I don't know. I don't know. He looked back. There's like, they look at each other.

He knows that that's him. How would he not also know that he knows that it's also him? I was now, like you, I was having similar concriptions at the television. when Bodey and his crew, you know, after the botched bank robbery, come into his fucking apartment. They're like, come on, dude, let's go. Let's go hang out.

What happened? Did they miss a real? What happened here? They're going to kill him. Obviously, I'm like, I'm like, Keanu, what are you doing? Like, your cover is blown at this point. Like, they know you're not being, like, get away. They're going to murder you.

But then I thought in the back of, they're like, don't worry. We're not surfing. Then in the back of my mind, I know Keanu, Johnny Utah on the back of his head is thinking, like, there's a good chance. Well, there's 100% chance my cover's blown. But there's a very good chance they're going to murder me if I go to a second location with them. But what? Just hear me out for a second.

I've never been skydiving. What if these guys? I mean, it'd be a real thrill. And you know what? It pays off because it was awesome. I would be kicking myself if I said no to boat and missed a trip to skydive. Well, I mean, and it's also very, I mean, clearly, I mean, it would be very hard to fake a death going out of a skydive.

how would you do that? It would be so. It'd be hard. I mean, how do you do it? This initial skydive is like the movie forgot that they wanted the climax of the film to have skydiving in it. And then they're like, shit, maybe we'll set that in the morning then. Because like to do two skydives in a row like

this kind of is insane. Like you kind of do want that peppered in a little earlier. And then it's like, oh, remember when they went skydiving? It's like, remember when they had skydiving in the morning? Well, they're doing it again in the early afternoon. Yeah. I do hot potato with the parachutes. That's fun.

That's fun. And this was the night that Lori Petty finds his badge and does the whole good fellow scene with him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love her shooting the pillow. That's fucking awesome. I love like, you know, before she discovers he's an FBI, and he's like, I have something to tell you. I really think it could affect our relationship.

And I'm like, you think? You think. And then she's like, don't worry. You can tell me another time. Well, I'll say, I'm very happy that the scene, like, she runs away and he tries to go after her. And you see a very clearly at Keanu butt. It's fantastic. It's very nice.

Because once again in this movie, they are both freshly fucked. Wonderful. Right. They are. And speaking of the skydiving scene where they all, you know, it's one of the many great moments of homo eroticism in this movie. But they like, they all,

they all fall together and hold hands. They're like, yes, yes, this is awesome. This feels so good. Catherine walked into the room and she said, if you're just, obviously he's using the other room and she goes if you're just listening to this movie and not watching it it sounds like they're having sex

it sounds like gay porn totally get in he says something like what's the line he's like get in there Utah get in there hit that hole slap that hole wow they got quite the circle jerk in the sky I kind of want the internal monologue I like you know what this is actually

working out I think they they didn't see me yesterday they actually did not see me fire upon them who like you play both angles and also skydiving rules. Yeah, but it is sexual. It was reminding me a little bit like autoerotic affixiation just because you're actively dying when you jump out of a plane and you

pull a cord, you know? Yeah, there you go. There you go. But dude, with skydiving v. autoerotic as fixation, the difference is sometimes you can use a belt. Well, there's a lot of choices. No, I was just going to say, with the skydiving, you really got to jerk that cord, you know, to get to the shootout with auto erotic asphyxiation you got to play it a little safer. Right, but you got

to jerk that dick at the same time. Well, sure. Yeah. I mean, so they land and this is where Bodie is like, I'm so sorry, brother. I kidnapped your girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend and I put her, well, Rosie's in charge of her.

He's probably killed her already. But no, wait, you know, to say when you compliment you can give a man that you've worked with for a couple years now, he has a gift of blankness that's probably not great. I also like,

I also like that one in the letter of recommendation. I also like when Bodie he's like, okay, come here. He's got something to show you

and he's like, oh, okay, what is it? Is it more extreme sports? And he's like, no, it's,

uh, and he goes, it's an insurance policy. And he goes, look, it's going to sting, but it's all part of your self growth problem.

I know, it's going to help you with your self growth problem. And I just look like, this is, this is the, the, the,

This is the spiritual psychopath. That's what I think Bodhi is as a good villain in this movie. He was definitely a life coach in Australia in the in the intervening nine months. You know what I mean? Oh, absolutely. Well, Lori Petty makes a moon a night reference at one point. She calls all the rest of the dudes, uh, Bodie's moonies. That was kind of funny.

I love this tape. Like, when he turns on the fucking security tape or whatever it is, it just looks like a video from Saw. Hello. Hello, Utah. You're just like, what is? Because she's like tied to the chair. She's gagged. Lee Turgesson looking fucking creepy as hell in the background like yeah

it's a good torture I want to play a game an extreme game an X game if you will hey Johnny you ever ride a BMX bike down a ramp before you will now

Bodie does have a good line there and it's a great question too of like why be a servant to the law when you can be its master that's right right great question hey He's asking all the really important questions. To which I think, because that's when they're in the van and, you know, Utah is like,

huh, but Bodie, I am an FBI agent. Great fucking line. Well, yeah, I knew that. I've known that for quite some time now. Thank you. I don't know. Yesterday we got, we got that scrape if you remember where you were firing a gun at me. I kind of guessed that you were an FBI agent at that point as well.

You know, I was on that fence and I got my pant caught on the fence, you know, And then you were going to shoot me and we were both looking at each other. But then you didn't. Yeah, I knew it was you. So now with, you know, with the threat of the mechanism hanging over Lori Petty's head,

he basically, you know, but like this is not just like he, because they have, you know, James LaGro had a fucking bead on Keanu and he like bats the gun out of the way. He's like,

no, because he's found a kindred spirit. You know, the rest of these goofies, they may like to get radical, but they don't have the, the spiritual connection or hotness of Keanu Reeves.

Like he's, this is like, he wants to mentor him into a life of spiritual crime. And he's going to force him to take part in the ultimate rush, which is breaking federal bank bank robbery laws. Oh, yeah. Without a mask. Okay. So like, he makes them do the last bank robbery, where they foolishly for the first time ever choose to hit the vault instead of hitting, just hitting the cash registers. You're breaking your own rules. He gets like, there's an undercover cop there.

He gets like Carter and Lyndon Johnson killed. I mean it's like it goes really bad but okay I know we talked earlier like they fucked up the raid brilliantly they blew three months work from the DEA killed a bunch of fucking innocent people it went really bad

so like after the bank robbery like Utah's in cuffs and McGinley's like keep those cuffs on them and I'm like okay at this point in the movie how the fuck does Keanu Reeves get his job with the FBI back no

because like McGillie's like okay like your partner he's an accessory to murder like a cop got killed in the middle of this Like the circumstances that led up to it Like really don't matter He's like oh I was only I was only taking part in this bank robbery

Because I skydived with them It was really awesome It's like he's still a fucking fed at the end of this movie What happened in like between Australia? I use what it is well I think I know what it is Because what happens is the end of the movie Um You know they're in the office and everything

And John C McGinley is like All right now the last time Why did you participate in this bank robbery That got a cop killed? And he just goes because I'm an FBI agent and they go Oh wait, of course you're a fellow cop

Oh, you can still have my job I thought he was just cans. I thought I just shot cans. Is there a least likable character than this this cop that's off duty? I mean, you, every time this dude gets three in the chest, you're like, fucking finally.

It's him and that old lady in speed that gets her shit blown up on his desk. Yeah, yeah, I get blown up goes straight under the wheels of the best grad's awesome okay another just brilliant brilliant Catherine Bigelow moment in this movie is that when Bodie takes it upon

himself to just finally draw down on that fucking cop with his huge like cult pistol and he shoots him in the chest and you've got a brilliant squid moment but then you get to see his body slide back on the bank marble floor from like three or four yards

just skirt like just just the force of that fucking bullet hitting his chest, just pushes him across the perfectly smooth bank floor. It's so good. I do feel bad, though, for the security guard because he clearly had no interest in any of that smoke. And his asshole cop is like,

you got to cover me, you got to back me up. He's like, don't do it. What are you doing? I'm literally getting minimum wage here. This is not worth my life. I can go be a greeter at Walmart, man, if they fire me. It is no reason for me to do this.

Man, I know these guys, like from other bank security guys, they're in and on 90 seconds to shut the I think it would have been funny, if instead of him going for it, be like, fuck it, let's be legends and then getting murked if he had just like stay down. I told you not to do that, idiot. Or if he just calls him out like, dude, this guy's got a gun.

He's got a gun over here. I'm helping. I need fucking an MCU style stinger of watching that cop burn in hell because that guy fucks everything up and he's a piece of shit. Yeah. I love that he's basically trying to tell the security guard that they're the exact same position because he's like, look, I got a gun on my belt that I can easily just slide my hand across my stomach and reach. You got a gun on your ankle, right? And the guy's like, yeah,

and I'm also a big fat guy. Like, what the fuck do you think? I can sort of slyly do here to get this weapon off my ankle. Come on. I'm 58 years old, sir. What do you want for me? Just look at me. Yeah, it's great. The youngest dude gets killed here as well. Oh, Gromit. Yeah, a little Gromac gets it. There was something in the Wikipedia that suggested that he's the younger brother of Bodie. And like I guess I call him younger brother.

He keeps on saying that. He says brother, but I just be a term of endearment among those. I figured, you know, they're all brothers. Yeah. They're brothers of the wave. Right. Exactly. And he does look younger than him.

So yeah. And he, uh, because he loves him so much, Swayze, still refuses to kill Utah. So he, uh, brings him to the airport or, He leaves him in the He leaves him in the bank And this is what he gets to punch Yeah he gets to punch out

John C McGinley And another strike against him Buse, no Busey punches it Oh that's right And then takes this guy who should be under In custody This guy who should be under arrest And just takes him

It takes the cups off This kid needs to be in a fucking Interrogation room With his union rep That's the next scene of this fucking movie It is not like Because Bucy's like What is it?

He's like oh John C McGinley Ginley, like, come on, don't take him out of here in a black and white. Like, let me take him. I'll give him a ride to the police station. Take him out with the, put, put him in a black and white and have SWAT fucking trucks next to it. Like, fucking, what are you talking about?

Put a fucking hood over his head. I know you got one. Yeah. I don't understand it. But yeah, he does the, uh, judge Ryan Reinhold, Eddie Murphy at the end of Beverly Hills cop. He's just like, well, I guess I'm going to do this. He lets him go. And you have to, you have to, you have to

imagine John C. McGinley cackling when he finds out that Pappas got shot at an airfield. Yes. Yep. That's what you get! Just Robert De Niro Cape Fear laughing about this fucking dead fake Greek Italian.

But yeah, so this is the airfield scene. It's a big shootout. James LaGroose gets fucking Garibusi in the back with a shotgun. Ooh, that stings. Blow. Blow. Blow. And again, they're so, they're so bad at their jobs.

They just show up and they're like, and then at one point, Keanu is like, where's the other guy with you? He's like, I don't know. He's around here somewhere. He literally says, oh, he's around here. They just, they're so unprepared for everything they do. You should be combing the area a little bit, like just being like,

tell anybody else. They know where these guys were and they didn't tell anyone else. I've got my back facing a warehouse. Hopefully he's not in there. a person I just shot like you don't even check your six like what the fuck yeah I shot this guy once in the side

with my fucking 32 fucking snub-nows I'm sure he's out for the count he's gone this young man this young man who is athletic all day and all of the night they dragged them into the play I do I want to know

what this pilot thought he was signing up for it versus what he got this guy it's a real like what the fuck did you think it's a bachelor party which would you want to fly over Mexico really quick. Sure. This is like shots being fired.

Can you take me and my friends to Tijuana but fly under radar the entire way there? All right, that's it. Shots fired. I'm not taking to San Felipe or whatever the town name. All right.

Oh, that's right. He tries to refuse a couple times. You get the fuck back in that plane. All right. I was ready for one dead body, but this is three. I can't do this. Busey has a cartoonish death rattle right here too.

But it's just like, he's like, He tries to say something, and it's not, we're not even bothering with any kind of last words of motivation or anything like that. And it's a really prolonged, like, eh. I love it so much. I'm surprised he didn't quote extensively from Marmaduke before. You know, my favorite cartoon hound I always used to say.

It's like, you know, yeah, I was like, you know, fucking like a dumb, dumb, round buckshot just like rips through his back. And then he's just like, oh, I hate Mondays. That might have been in a different draft. You know, Doc, get me lasagna. Two, two lasagnas. So we're on the plane. James LaGroess is really dying here.

Oh, yeah. I do, I always love this Keanu Reeves. He's literally like, you're getting cold because the blood is getting out of your body, Roach. You'll be dead soon. Was it worth it? Yeah. My name is kind of badass. My name is Terrence, by the way.

Don't call me Roach while I'm dying. I know that I smoked that roach that one time and everybody thought it was hysterical 12 years ago. But yeah. He's dying. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, Swazy Chuck in this half, his half dead friend out. And getting a legitimate, I'll see you in hell out is, but one of my dreams. But you have to be in a near-dead situation. You can't just say it.

You'll be there soon. Yeah, that's a good point. I think it's a thing where, like, you know, Roach has thought about what he's going to do with his final moments when they ever come. You know, so he has this well-rehearsed. Like, whoever's doing it to me, I'm going to tell him I'll see you in hell. It's a good movement. And I mean, like, the see-you-in-hell and then immediately chucked out of a plane

to die in mid-air, probably. Yeah. That's about as good at line liverly as you can get when you're bleeding to death about to fall out of a fucking airplane. Yeah, see-you-in-hell is pretty good, pretty appropriate at that moment. he survives enough to pull the shoot but then when they see his body on the ground it's just dead which which is a nice

detail. I like that shot with all the money scattering like that. That was pretty good. But the bigger thing is so fucking Bodie says that does the what is it? Adiosamigo Adios Amigo. Adios Amigo goes out and then of course Keanu Reeves follows him and he

catches him in midair and they pull the pair at the very last minute he has a gun to his fucking head. Yes. Six seconds we're going to be meat waffles. And he's like counting down. He's like, fine, fucking fine. And he drops the gun, pulls the shoot. They both drop immediately on the ground.

It's a hard fall. The knee needs to look like spaghetti. Yeah, there's nothing left there. I need a pie or something. Like, it just, you can't walk anymore. If you had a bad knee before, you do not have a knee anymore now. He should be on that beach in Australia using a cane or something. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.

Just a metal leg. Or, you know, put him into the Robocop program. exactly that would work also something i would watch johnny utah bot totally they let uh they let rosy rosy shows up they let uh tyler out and tyler like rushes to him like oh i love you so much it's like no fuck you dude yeah yeah i'd still be pretty mad at him i'm pretty mad hey remember when you used my parents fucking death against me to get me in the bed sure i've been thinking about that for the last 36 hours mother hey uh remember remember you lying to me and seducing me, got me inadvertently kidnapped by a psychopath who

held me at knife point. But the motion of the ocean was just that good. Yeah, it was just best sex. I don't know. Steve, I don't know. Like when you find yourself in the desert, you know, and the people that you're with are the dude who kidnapped you. Yes.

Another guy who you know was in on it. A dead body. And this dude who was admittedly kind of an asshole but didn't actually kidnap him even though he was definitely responsible for it. You'll probably run to Keanu. Yeah, and I guess he's also a 10, so that changes things. The math a little bit. And she's like, oh, finally the police, but we're in Mexico, so this means nothing.

Yeah. I mean, and all that brotherly love that you were talking about, Will, like, evaporate because it happens like two times. In the bank, they're like, you cannot bring Gromit with us. You have to leave him here to be chucked in the wagon and turned into grist or burnt or whatever. and then here when James LaGroess you can hear it's like he's like we have to bury him

we have to do it's like usual suspects and Swayze wants to bury him and the mechanism is like no we can't we have to go so like the mechanism is the one who runs the show that is why he is the mechanism dude because Swayze tries to veer off course

and fuck around burying James LaGroes here Roach and he's like, no, no, no, the mechanism says we got to go. Let's get in the car and go. He seems pretty depressed about it, though. I mean, even when we get to Bell's Beach, he seems pretty down. Well, I'm what I like about it is like, when we get to Bell's Beach at the end, and Keanu's like, you know, like they encounter each other.

He throws the Reagan mask into the surf and he's like, it's over, Bodie. You cross the line. People lost their lives. They're dead. And then like, you get the perfect distillation of Bodie is like sort of a Zen crime spiritualism, where he was like, yeah, it got bad. It got real bad. But, you know, it doesn't mean I can't catch this wave, though.

It's all about the surf. It's all about communing with nature. And it's like, dude, you got like all your friends killed. All of them. Dead. Your best friend. You're just it. He, in my read of the scene, he had every intention of dying in the surf anyway,

which is one more notch in the belt of terrible police officer, He caught no one. If he had not showed up at the beach with all those Australian cops, the same thing would have happened. Yes. Right. He would have won out and he would have died on the way. And all he did was cost the Australian taxpayers like 100 grand for all the helicopters

and machine guns they had to get out there for nothing. And then, of course, they got to hire a fucking dive team to go and scoop his ass out of the ocean. That's exactly what have happened if he'd never done anything. He didn't catch anybody. Fucking Rosie got stabbed in a bar in Mexico. All he can do is identify the first. body afterwards. But he arrives in Baha too late.

That guy's dead. He misses Bodie in Fiji by a week. Who the fuck's paying for all this? Great question, dude. And yeah, like, and to Matt, to Matt's point, he's like, he's like, you got too far, Bodie. Like, I mean, yeah, like, this guy's a mass murderer. He's like a dangerous criminal psychopath.

And he's like, he's like, come on, Utah. He's like, you know, I can't handle, like, being in a cage. It's like, dude, yeah, I know. Like, that's the point. No one likes it. But, I mean, you're a murderer. Like, so. yeah, I'm going to give you the opportunity to have this like perfectly beautiful heroic death that you've planned your entire life, evading capture the entire time for your lengthy criminal career. But I mean, at that point, he's just, I don't know, an FBI agent name only. I mean, the fact that he's not in jail is pretty stunning. And then he got to go. He got to take a nine month like semester at sea, courtesy of U.S. taxpayers. And then quit after not apprehending the guy he was chasing.

They just sent his ass a bill And getting his partner blown away I want to watch I want to watch Worst police officer I think in any film ever Who was like trying Like other than guys Who were like actively double Asian type guys

Yeah the worst guy who was like Ostensibly on the level The most incompetent worst police officer On infill Where at Quad a quote with like And you are allowed to give the murderer One last request I want to go

I was about I'm about to go in The show in Batman returns up the street. Do you mind if I just dip in there for two hours? I've always wanted to do it. I love the I will be, they'll go in the cage, I promise. The Australian cops yelling at him was great. Like, you let him go. What the fuck? What the fuck?

You told you let him go. He's a little class of the ayesha now. Yeah, he throws his badge dramatically but like, no, you're still kind of getting arrested too. Oh yeah. What you're doing, you just aided and abetted a fucking criminal dude. Yeah. That's the thing. Again. Like the 10th time.

he's not coming back or maybe he is i don't know man maybe he'll fucking swim it you know what i mean either way doesn't work well he's made a job for somebody else who now has to go get his ass out of the water at some point he just has to convince 12 people to believe in a bromance that's all he's got to i love that he is the only fbii agent and these are all like Australian cops at this point too oh yeah i mean it's i mean this it's such a i mean it is it's ridiculous but it is I think the fact that they balance the silly like that that's the thing

I think Bigelow did a lot very well in the 80s and 90s is that she did bounce the silly stuff with stuff that's actually gripping and like compelling in a lot of way like this is ridiculous that this is happening it's obscene and ridiculous but I'm still like I don't know

I'm with it like it's totally watchable yeah well they play it I mean it also like Swayze and Reeves as silly and dumb as they are they play it pretty well. You know what I mean? You believe. Oh, they're great. They're great. Yeah. Yeah, you believe it. Yeah. I mean, Reeves does that whole thing. Will you were saying about the like how he's like, you killed somebody. You did. I'm like, yeah, we watched the movie. It's like, just rapid things up. Let me remind you what the whole movie was real quick.

But that is the end of the movie. We end on a tune from Rat, which definitely means that this is not a great soundtrack. Yeah. That was a great point you made at the top, Steve. kind of weird that this soundtrack sucks so much. Not sucks, but it's kind of just really for good. Cut a week, cut a week. Yeah. Yeah. But that is the end of Point Break from 1991 directed by Catherine Bigglo. We'll go around here.

Final thoughts and any maybe recommendation or something. We'll start with our guests today, Will? My final thoughts is you know, Point Break remains a classic action movie of the 90s. It's one of Captain Bigelow's best movies. I'll just say it's a, you know, cautionary tale

about, you know, some sports are too extreme. Lake Lake Murder and felony theft And I guess I'll just say Like the movie to recommend Catherine Bigelow's near dark I know Halloween's over So good man oh man

What a fucking good vampire movie near dark is Totally Matt You know Canna Reeves One of the most amazing careers In film history Just because at no point

Has he ever been good at acting at all He's never given a good performance he has never convincingly delivered a line. And yet, you still want to watch him. You still accept him in the movies. You still sort of, you grade him on a curve. And that just speaks to some ineffable charisma the man has. And it's certainly on display in this movie,

where he is objectively terrible, but yet, nonetheless, very magnetic. And you know what? Another movie I recommend, I was looking at that gun website. It's the internet. movie firearms databases. Oh, there we go. Got it. The cool gun that Swayze is carrying

is actually not a 44. It's a 454 cassoule, which at the time was the largest caliber handgum in commercial. Oh, my God. Wow. He's got a real god killer. Okay. Well, you know, now that the... Which was also carried by John Candy in the film

Armed and Dangerous with Eugene Levin. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. classic. Also about robbery gang, but this time armored cars instead of banks. It's delightful. Check it out. Totally. Chris Cabin. Yeah. I mean, I love this movie. I've loved this movie for

years. I also a couple weeks ago, just because I hate myself, I decided to watch the remake. Oh, cool. I never did that. It is. It's so fucking bad. It's like, they take all the silliness out,

and it's just like good stunts, like, footage, but not even cut together well. It's, who's the dude is Edgar Ramirez? Edgar Ramirez is Bodie. And then some nobody is Keanu Reeves's part. That's what you're on. Delroy Lindo is

McGinley. And that was good. Who's Pappas? Oh, Ray Winstone was Pappas. Oh, Ray Winstone. Is it still surfing? No, it's it. It's Ray Wins. Yeah, Utah four. Get me four, Utah. Four ear pies.

I need four ear pies right now. Oh, fuck it. And yeah, I mean, I, I, even, so seeing that just double down how much I love this movie, how much it's just been there for my whole life. Yeah, I can't recommend it enough. Eric Sisko. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, this movie's insanely watchable. I always have a good time whenever I do watch it. And Keanu Reeves, he does have that charisma.

I have no idea why Matthew Perry wants him dead. what a prick that's such a shitty thing and it's like Maddie Perry's talking about this like he's some fucking artist who are you dude you're not even half as good

as Keanu Reeves is but in his defense he finally made me laugh so it's a recommendation Steve Sadec yeah no it's it's fantastic

it's a you know and again like I think I would love to watch Catherine Bigelow make a break neck action movie that like has

as little politics as possible would be fantastic for her, and get her out of movie jail. I also think that, like, it's, to Chris's point, like, the remake, like, I just don't think we make, like, movies where, like, because at the beginning of this movie is Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze, very much, like, two young, up-and-coming movie stars, not people from

CW series, not people that you saw on Netflix once, like, real deal, people that open movies are now going to face each other in some sort of a way. And I just don't think that there's, you could possibly, when you remade this movie, or are you going to remake it again in five years, we don't have the farm system we used to have so there's no world in which you could make this movie again

so it's a bygone era yeah totally and it's a huge crazy run for Swayze too because I mean like 87 was dirty dancing Roadhouse 89 ghost 90 and then this in 91 like dude is flying damn

it's crazy I mean and then Keanu kind of like the same ish you know because like speed was three years after this and Bill and Ted had been before this. I think the first one anyway. Bogus journey is this year. It comes up the same year.

It was bogus journey was this year because, oh yeah, because Excellent Adventures like 88 or something like that. So, like, they're both kind of like right in this really interesting period of their career. And I'll just say, another Keanu recommend is the film River's Edge. Yes. Great movie. Crisp Glover. I own Sky.

I think I had a least rate of Mickelob. Like that. Also, Fritzwezzi. previous episode we've done a good good fun movie next of kin I love that movie I love Billy Cops in Chicago yeah yep oh it's great but that is going to do it for this episode on point break Will and Matt thanks so much for for popping in and you know what do you guys got going on do you got more shows or what's happening no more shows for the rest of

the year tour is over but the show is where it always is on Patreon and SoundCloud chopo trap house check it out that is awesome thanks for stopping by come back anytime guys And as for here on We Hate Movies, of course, Patreon.com slash We Hate Movies. We are right in the middle of our We Love Movies Month. A lot of special stuff going on on the Patreon, including a Wii or a Nexus episode, all about Star Trek the Motion Picture. We got a We Hate Movies on Rotten Rids Hannibal from 2001. What do we got on AD, Steve?

Nightmare Before Christmas, my wife, Jen joined us for that. That's an episode that's super fun. We're also doing, who are we doing on the Gleepe Gloss? there. Oh, yeah. The Gleep glossary will be discussing the history in times of Chewbacca. So please do it into that. We're going to talk about his death, dude. His death? Yeah, now he gets crushed by a moon and we're going to talk about it. Love that. And let me hear on the main feed, the free feed as it is. The show continues next week, Steve,

with what motion picture will we be talking about? Totally sort of by accident because we're not very good at picking stuff. We are continuing the career of Keanu Reeves, the very next year with Dracula, Bram Stoker's Dracula. Francis Ford Pellas Bram Stoker's Strachia. Which rules the fucking square. We shall be married when I return.

Yeah, Matt, if you want to talk about blown lines and bad accents, Keanu all over that movie. But that is going to be a lot of fun talking about werewolf fucking and bad accents and shadow play. So until next week with Bram Stoker's Dracula. I'm Andrew Jupin.

Stephen Seda. Eric Sisker. Chris Cabin. Matt Christman. Will Medicare? Take it easy.