We Hate Movies - S13 Ep651: Moonfall
Episode Date: January 3, 2023On the first episode of 2023, the gang is ringing in the new year with a convo about an absolutely ridiculous flop from 2022, the totally zany Moonfall! Why couldn’t we get more wild collateral dama...ge kills like in previous Emmerich films? Is a Lexus really the best car for the apocalypse? And how hilarious was that rocket vandalism? PLUS: George Bailey tries to stop the moon fall, but gets his consciousness sucked into the A.I.! Moonfall stars Halle Berry, Patrick Wilson, John Bradley, Charlie Plummer, Kelly Yu, Michael Peña, and Donald Sutherland as Holdenfield; directed by Roland Emmerich. Click here to snag tickets to catch the gang LIVE in the virtual space on January 26 as they chat about the stunningly bad Thor: Love and Thunder! Ticket bundles available for the exclusive after-party Q&A as well! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new SW Crispy Critters, MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna? & Mortal Kombat designs! Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week on the program, hop in your spaceship and blast off to stupid city because on this episode, we're talking about moonfall. I'm Andrew Jupin. I am a swarm of bullshit, Stephen Sadek. Eric Fall. Chris Cabin. And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to the fine program, a happy new year to you all.
Thanks. No, not you.
It's for the others.
No, the gentle listeners.
audience. We rang in
the new year together. So we said
Happy New Year already. That's true.
Thanks for the kiss, by the way.
No problem. Any time.
Oh, whoa, double kiss.
You cheated on me.
Eric? Eric.
Things get sticky in the clubhouse.
God, I'm kissing and telling over here.
What am I doing?
As it is
the new year, of course, that means here at
We Hate Movies. We are talking about some of the
worst of last year. And boy,
we have our pick, that was for sure.
So if throughout this month, when we get to the end of the month, rather,
if you're like, well, what about, listen, there's only a few Tuesdays in this month
and there were a shit ton of bad movies last year, one of which is indeed Roland Emmerich's
moonfall.
This motherfucker no stranger to we hate movies.
No, he's a favorite, if you will.
And there's plenty of stuff we haven't even got to.
We haven't even gone to fake Shakespeare yet.
One day we will have to figure that out.
But this is, this I think is emblematic of his problem, which is too many people are talking.
When less people are talking, better movie with Roland Emmerk.
I would say Stargate, you don't have, it's a lot of like growling and just grunting.
Sure.
And space language that we don't really know, like half Egyptian kind of, I guess.
But like that, I watched 10,000 BC this morning.
Oh, what are you doing, dude?
turned it off, turned it off about an hour in.
But it does work more than most of his movies, again, because not many people are talking.
It's when the people start talking to that the problem, it happens.
I think you're on to something because 2012, I think had also 2012 cast members.
It did.
Oh, definitely.
Absolutely did.
It was too much.
And this is trying to, I feel that little flares of independence day throughout this, but it's not connecting.
No, it's more of 2012 than independent.
Independence Day. And I guess Independence Day is the one
exception because you have that
cast. You know what? You need
Devlin. You need that Dean Devlin
to help everybody else out here.
Somebody who knows how to, not that that guy's
a fucking genius, but he makes Rollin' Demerick looks like
a fucking genius. He made
his career, right? Because they teamed
up for Universal Soldier and
the rest is history. That's when he
really got a footholding in Hollywood.
Also, Universal Soldier, two people
who can barely talk.
It's perfect. It's
perfect. I mean, I guess my thing
with this movie is, you know, he's
done, you know, this is like his umpteenth disaster
movie, and this is the one
he, as a visualist,
has the least idea how to show you.
Like, I don't know what a moonfall is
and I still don't know. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, no, exactly. Like, when the moon is
falling, they keep being like, ah, it's really bad
out there. I'm like, well, is there even
society left? Like, the moon is
a, is like a mile away.
I mean, that's bad. No, that's, I mean,
they try to do that with,
the fucking hillbillies
like hunting the family
at the end
which is fucking hilarious.
Oh yeah.
I need that whole movie.
That hillbilly would be
the functional head
of the United States
at that point.
You know what I mean?
Because nobody else
is given orders.
Well,
you know what?
I would like to have a beer
with him at least.
Yeah,
it's true.
He's definitely a state
representative at this point.
And like,
yeah,
it's,
as I said before
we started here,
it's more of a moon scrape,
a moon brush,
if you will.
Like,
it's just,
I mean I guess I guess yes
Just like barely making contact
But most of the fuck up is happening
Just in that they're barely making contact
Right
It's around another possibility of a thing
That we could call this though
A ribbing by the way
Yeah it's a ribbing
It's like it just the moon comes down
A little rims the earth's little cheek there
You know
A lunar rim.
Yeah no I mean I get all that
But like they show like the little
You know
Design or not the design
like the path that the moon is on, right?
And it's like swirling around the earth
and it's getting closer to the planet.
And that's not so much of a fall
as there's like a moon flush.
You know what I mean?
It's just that like we're getting smaller and smaller
just like the water when you flush a toilet.
It's perfect because the moon controls the tides
and the toilet is like the tides of my house.
That's right.
The tides of my ass at least.
The moon is being flushed.
Oh, no.
each the chard and we're the hole
I'd like this a lot
I like that this movie starts with
there's an alternate lion's gate opening
that includes like real space footage
as if this movie's saying like
yeah this is possible
like yeah this is possible
can I say just there's a thing though
like I only saw this movie today
and I think I
maybe saw a preview for it but I think
they kept this hidden just to get it out of the way so we can talk a little more freely
about the movie right away like sure i thought this was just going to be like a straight up disaster
movie and this is a daggum fucking ancient aliens movie it is it did not see that from the advertising
no no you didn't because i think people would have lost their shit a little bit uh the i think
people are a little amped up about all the like oh all those people who are saying the moon is
fake and the moon landings are fake and conspiracy this conspiracy that i think if you
you front load that people aren't as interested
as Patrick Wilson's around and we're
blowing shit up. Well, what a great idea, Chris,
the year 2020. You know what our hero is going to be a plucky
conspiracy theory that loves Elon Musk
and absolutely doesn't believe
the moon landing was real?
Has some interesting things to say
about he's forwarding some
Jewish documentaries on Amazon you don't want to know about.
A lot of people,
a lot of basketball players are coming to his defense.
That's right. Yep.
Now, but hang on a second.
That's not the Patrick Wilson character, dude.
No, it's not. That's this disgraced fucking
Casey Hausman
in-cell basement
dweller pretending to have a PhD
in something. He's almost, if not the,
I mean, we start with Patrick Wilson, we sort of end with
Patrick Wilson, but like, it is Casey's
journey for the most part. He's a
hero. He makes the ultimate sacrifice
at the end of this movie. He pulls
the Bruce Willis on Ben Affleck.
He does.
Well, that's, I mean, we were talking about it in chat before, is he does have the Sam-wise Gingji role here.
And there are people who say that Lord of the Rings is Sam's story.
Sure.
Like, there are people who argue that especially since the way it ends, the way it ends.
But like this one, it is like, yes, he thinks it's a megastructure.
It's you understand it's a megastructure up there and the moon.
And then that's that half.
And then the second part is indeed, he is constantly been like, oh, he is.
Elon. Oh, Elon, if I could just smear your breath and, oh, and take a hair from your head and
wash up it every day. So you're saying, Chris, that this guy is one of these losers that we have now
that's paying $8 a month for a blue check? Oh, he absolutely is. You said take hair from Elon said you
mean hair plug, right? Yes. I mean, they're in his head still. Stop pulling out my hair plugs,
pedophile. Oh, you would take, oh, you would take the Munish fake. You are not petrified.
you are best friend.
Thank you.
Anyone who says the moon is real,
that account has been banned.
He's gone off the deep end.
It'd be cool if he became like a flat earther or something.
I mean, it wouldn't shock me at all.
It'd also be cool if he pulled the Bud Dwyer on a fucking live stream.
Oh, I love that.
I would adore this.
Some lunatic account would be like,
The moon is fucking fake and all the Jews are doing it.
And then like Elon would just reply,
exactly.
Oh, no.
The one that I love though, dude, his fucking one word answers is,
interesting
oh man
fuck you dude
fascinating point you make
there
it's possible that yes
indeed inside the moon
it is a bunch
of worldly things
it's a bunch of
worldly bombs
it is possible
that Jewish people
are just goblins
inside of large
human suits
you're right
interesting
exactly
oh yeah
you know
yeah he's from
apartheid
South Africa
he probably doesn't
have it
all together
upstairs
I like you say
in part-time South Africa
as if it's a place
that was
I mean that was the capital
of South Africa
when he was around
and it will be again
Steve
Oh yes
Oh yes
You believe that
Ridley Scott film
legend is actual
historically accurate
Interesting
I agree with you
Oh I don't know
You're saying
Lord of the Rings
is all Samwise's story
Must be pedophile
Must be.
Yeah, so we start, yeah, it's like, you know,
we get some moon footage, some moon landing footage,
or do we?
And then we just cut to this really like, you know,
we're trying to make Patrick Wilson a intrepid,
likeable, schlubby astronaut guy
because he's singing Toto's Africa to this other guy.
About a decade too late on that.
Oh, at least.
I mean, people are still singing.
that song. Hang on a second. First of all, this scene is taking place in 2011.
And also, when the fuck was it, like, just in the last, like, four years, three, four years,
like Weezer recorded that. It was like a big hit all over again. That movie's never, that
song, rather, has never gone away. I thought that we had turned. We'd all become a nation of
Rosanna fans. I'm more of a Rosanna man, okay? That's just all I'm saying. Rosanna is the better
song, but this one is the more remembered. Fair or fire.
Correct. Correct, correct, correct. Um, but yeah,
2011, Patrick Wilson, some other dude and then Hallie Berry in a Roland Emmerick movie.
Yeah, dude. Never thought I'd see the day. The mighty have half fallen. Oh, yeah. For what
it's worth. Oscar fall, dude. That's a, that's the movie. Yeah. Well, meanwhile, Patrick Wilson is right at
home. This is exactly right where he needs to be. But it's so fucked up though, right? Like,
he's excellent. Oh, yeah. He's great. I mean, I think he's great. He's just like, what?
What the fuck with these movies, man?
Well, I mean, he was great in Aquaman, but that's the thing.
I like him on the side in bigger movies.
But like when he's the centerpiece, then I think he has to be a Roland Emmerich joint.
It has to be a little shitty because we're probably trying to get somebody else, right?
I mean, Patrick Wilson is definitely someone has passed.
He plays villains a lot now.
Like he was in that fucking 18 movie.
Obviously, Aquaman, I do think he's good in.
Oh, is he the bad guy in the 18 movie?
I believe so.
he is. He's in those, shit. I mean,
the Conjuring movies are huge, actually, to be fair.
At least the first one, the third one is like,
insidious too. Well,
that was the kind of him kind of
coming back. But like, is, am I remembering
right? He's directing the new insidious.
I'm fucking pumped for that, man. Oh, really?
I didn't know that. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But
18 was a decade
ago. It took place a year prior
to this opening.
They're just up in
space and instead of singing Toto, he's
just like, hey man,
you see any good movies lately they're just talking about it
insidious so
while they're doing it like they're all having like a real fun time
on doing some space stuff and like we find out that
Hallie Berry is just married and Patrick Wilson was at her wedding
because they're best buds there's this third guy Marcus
who's the new guy who's not going to last
not long no because there's a huge thing of space diarrhea
it's Jesus Christ they just get shat upon in space
It's a space shart.
It doesn't even look good.
Like, I feel like all the effects in this don't really look good.
Because the thing is, it's the easy, lazy way out as being like, oh, it's nanobots.
And then you just make it look like a swarm of bugs.
And it's terrible.
And it's terribly boring to look at.
It's like dust is killing people.
Also, but is this, it looks almost exactly like the shitstorm that's supposed to be an actual character in Green Lantern.
Yes, Parallax.
Parallax.
Okay.
How could I forget?
I mean, it's just, it's a better look.
I mean, it's slightly better looking, I guess.
But like, yeah, it's nothing face.
It's just.
Think about independence there, right?
Like, the whatever you think, I mean, like, obviously a lot of practical effects and a lot of
CGI effects.
None of that matters.
The production design, like the designed ships, the designed aliens, they looked like
things.
And now it's just like, no, it's just a big swarm of shit that gets you.
And if it gets you, you're in trouble because you've got you.
And everything in this movie is like blue and gray.
Yep.
And I don't see how that's exciting.
No.
Yeah.
So, excuse me, the little cloud of nanobots here hits these dudes.
Marcus goes flying.
What do you know, Patrick has, Patrick Wilson has the good fortune to be whipped around right
back into the space shuttle comfortably.
Marcus just bumps in George Clooney.
Hey, man, how's it going?
Oh, yeah, we're just going to be.
Get ready for the rest of your life.
Just floating out here, dude.
That's interesting.
You're not dead yet, huh?
That's all right.
I'm just tag it out.
Andrew, to your point about Patrick Wilson
being flung right back into the ship,
I think this is why NASA is just like,
dude, you must have done this or something.
Right, yeah.
Like you were fucking,
we have it on the log that you were like
microwaving ramen noodles,
like a minute after that guy died.
You don't have any bruises, like at all.
Like,
like,
at least Haley Barry has been hit on the head.
Like, at least that's something.
You just,
it's very suspicious, Patrick Wilson.
He should have got a wrench out,
hit himself in the head.
He should have, honestly.
shot himself in the shoulder
like a bat, a shitty cop.
Right. Yeah. Oh, there's
there's no way they're going to believe that
I didn't cause this.
He sprinkle some crack out there.
There's a drug bust gone wrong on the moon, dude.
Of course.
So this, this fucking turd cloud here
starts drilling into the moon
and you just get this
moonfall
title card.
And the trivia is to believe, which I do believe,
this whole sequence of
his son, Sonny.
Name, replacement name,
like absolutely. We'll figure it out
later. That's what that name said. Okay.
It was originally sunny boy, all right?
We changed it to just Sunny. Happy
that, right? Do you think, well, maybe this
Patrick Wilson astronaut, maybe he's
like a massive Godfather fan. The kid's
name is actually Santino.
Oh, nice. I mean,
well, yeah, I was about to say maybe Patrick Wilson
like hyper italian in this movie but doesn't he have like an irish what's his last
harper harper yeah santino harper huh yeah not exactly or like you know maybe the wife is uh like a really
you know rich susa marissa tome yeah exactly well what instead of making her a character we give
uh all uh characteristics to uh uh what i always fuck up his name her step the step dad
michael michael pena like you don't make the wife a character at all but you don't make the wife a character at all but
make him a major character. He's a major
character, but he's not really used
in any way. He's just like a plot point.
Like, I feel like, I feel like he's underutilized.
I feel like he's usually funny and
affable in movies. And maybe it's the
writing, maybe it's the direction. I don't know, but he's
just flatlining through this movie. They are.
They make him like a clueless
super rich stepdad
guy. Well, I mean,
Roland Emmerich, next to Steven Spielberg,
is one of our foremost
autort is about divorce.
You know what I mean? He loves it. He loves
fucking, because, I mean, that happens
in 2012, too, is like the, the world
is ending, the stepdad gets
eats shit, and then the mommy and
daddy get back together at the end.
Yep, totally. And the divorce
doesn't hold in
Jeff Goldblum's marriage and
Independence Day. They're clearly back together.
Absolutely. Thank God the first lady
gets taken out of that movie. Dude, some fucking
consequence for crying out loud.
But it's kind of weird,
like, so like, but this scene actually was a
reshoot because people were confused.
Because then they just jump in the original cut of the movie to like, you know, to housemen and like, and then Patrick Wilson do it the class thing.
And then like people are like, why isn't he part of NASA no more?
So they put this whole like thing where he's, this kid's looking at the snow globe.
But they're like on the television, they're like, he is no longer part of NASA no more because NASA mad at him.
Goodbye.
The cry on here is fucking hilarious.
It just says, disgraced hero.
Leeds case.
What is this NASA, like,
live feed, like trial,
like a tribunal that, like,
everyone is watching?
Dude, like, I don't, like, you know,
this is like some court TV ship
for, like, a NASA hearing.
I don't think that this happens,
but I guess maybe is it because it's,
like, his hometown
local news or something?
So they're, like,
choosing to be like,
hey, the guy that we all know
that lives on Chestnut Street,
total disgrace.
Oh, yeah, I mean,
but also, like,
the world knows about that.
Like, everybody knows him to be a piece of shit.
Like, the fucking, I wish it was a local news story, but it's not, like, it's just this.
It's a disaster.
I would have, it's news in a way, right?
Because it's like, we don't go to, I mean, in 2011, we weren't going to space, right?
We haven't gone to space in a long time.
NASA itself.
So I guess if NASA would do something, maybe it would be a story.
That's my point.
It's like 2011.
I remember 2011.
We all remember 2011.
Nobody gave a shit about NASA in 2011.
No, I mean, to be fair.
a shit about it was when the Apollo 11
movie came out. I mean,
to be fair, we send people into space
all the time. We haven't been
on the moon since the 1970s.
But it's like SpaceX
or something, right? Which I know gets named
chucked in this. There's NASA
things happening. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not trying
to send anyone to the moon because I'm not sure.
That might start wobbling. Then
somebody takes, somebody too
fat gets on the moon. Moon will fall.
Fall right down.
Can't have that?
No, you want John Snow up there.
No, you don't want the other guy.
You want John Snow up there.
Oh, the moon is hollow.
Just like my opponent's policies.
Oh, yes.
Oh, my God.
This fucking movie, man, moonfall,
holy fucking shit.
Can I just say, though, I mean,
as ridiculous of a turn
as this all is and whatever,
can I just say, like,
if it turned out to be true
that we were ancestors
from another race of people that
built these huge things
to send out to other planets
and, you know, terraform
or, you know, create planets and
we're seeds of those people.
Fascinating discovery.
Can I just, I think personally,
that is a fascinating fucking discovery.
Oh, yeah. Sure.
I mean, there's no way it's true.
But, man, I was watching this movie and I was like,
I don't know, I mean, the falling part
or, you know, the moon ribbing,
such as it is, you know, not so great.
all the mass death.
But just like if that was a thing
we found out like we were space people
like the children of the stars.
I don't know, kind of cool.
But this is the effect
the movie's trying to have there
because it's supposed to be like a huge twist
that's like mind altering.
Like, whoa.
No, I mean, I just remember being like,
oh, now we're doing this in this movie?
All right.
Too little too late.
It's too little too late.
And we're literally cutting back
from these enormous moon revelations
about the history of the human race
to fucking sunny in a fucking Jeep
driving around getting chased by hillbillies
I don't care about this
Absolutely not
Once we leave Earth
Like yes we gotta leave Earth
It should not turn back
Because that is the fucking Achilles heel
With so much of these
Rollinemic disaster movies
Is the family element in them
Like I don't care about the human beings
I care about the gleep glops
And the boom booms
And the fucking explosions
And the mass death
Of animated cartoon character
You know what I mean
Like keep the heart wrenching shit out of here
Well also it all
looks like garbage. It looks
terrible. The worst part, I mean,
they're up in a moon structure that is
completely CGI and it looks much
better than what is supposed to be like
realistic home views
with like, I mean, it looks so
fucking bad. Like, I wouldn't have
this, it's almost the level
of TV movie shit. This is the most
expensive, one of the most expensive, independent
movies ever made by the way. Oh, yeah.
And it was an enormous bomb.
They lit a lot of
foreign money on fire. Oh, yeah.
They went to Cannes.
They raised money for this movie.
Talk about fucking moon flush.
I mean, money flush, man.
Apps of fucking Lutley.
Oh, the thing I was going to bring up,
for a lot of this movie, what we're doing,
we're not using green screens.
We're using the new thing
where we have these massive, like,
monitors, like LCD monitors,
and we're playing whatever the graphic is.
And then you're acting in front of that.
That's what they did for,
A lot of the Mando and a lot of the perch shots
and the Batman are using that to, like, if you use it
right, it does look pretty convincing.
But the problem is you have like really lazily put
together like background art that just looks like fake
fake shit. Like, you know, when you put on those YouTube
10 hour videos of just like a little, you know,
comfy cabin room or something with the fire on it's like loosely
shittily animated. That's what this all looks like.
it's a fucking $100 million movie.
Well, no amount of effects is going to stop your house
from being taken away from you when you drink away
your shambling career as an astronaut.
What I love about this, Chris,
is that this guy's trying to evict him
from this palsy rents.
He can't pay the rent.
Yet he's living in Jay Leno's garage.
Sell that car, sell a motorcycle.
Like what?
Yep.
It seems like that's all he has.
Because he also lost the house that his wife and child were.
I mean,
that's before the 10-year jump, which is also, like, weird that it's just like, oh,
yep, 10-year, here we go.
This is just telling me we're paying astronauts too much.
Just a little too much.
And it is like a big, like he sneaks out the window.
It's so fucking hack to watch the sequence of the guy, the landlord's banked on the door.
Like, I need the rent right now.
I'm from another country, but I'm like a landlord.
And by the way, if this were a like 1990s role in Emrick movie,
when we still had some fucking teeth
in the game,
the movie, when things are getting
really bad, would just randomly
cut back to that landlord, and you'd
see that guy fall in a huge hole and die.
You know what I mean? Like, that definitely
would happen. He's like, ah, moon will not fall,
so long as I get rent. And he looks up, oh, no,
moon get me.
Oh, wow, moon, wow.
The moon scrapes and just like
pulls him out to ocean.
I do like, when the moon,
just starts sucking people up, you know?
That's great.
Meanwhile, we're introduced a little bit earlier to Game of Thrones.
What's this guy's name?
John Bradley.
John Bradley.
Samwise Gorgie.
Samwell.
Come on.
Come on.
Oh, mighty.
Hold on a second.
Quite the kit that fully.
What was that?
The character's name was Samwell Tarley.
Yeah.
Not Samwise.
Gorgie.
Gorgie.
As Mr.
Chris,
Mad Magazine Cabin
his footage.
Hey look, you get your influences where you get
them.
Oh, man.
Yeah, he is
a fucking
conspiracy theorist, real dangerous
two online weirdo
who pretends to be
janitors so you can break into
UC Irvine
and get, he calls into
like a big, you know,
scientific telescope pretend to be
this professor because he is
independently tracking
the orbit of the moon is the idea?
Sure. Because he believes it's a megastructure.
Yeah. Dude,
hearing this fucking
Englishman just shout out
megastructure, everyone
is not, is trying as
hard as they can in this movie to not say
megastructure. And this guy's saying it
left and right. Yeah. I said it a ton.
It's also weird. He
later we see that he's working at a fast
food drive through window. I've
never heard an English accent come out of one of those.
No. I mean, I would love it. I appreciate that they don't make him do an American accent.
You know what I mean? Like, you want this guy because he's got the energy you want. That's fine.
Yes. But then, like, they go through all this stuff. Like, his mom is American for some reason.
And then, like, there's some line when he's like in that hotel room, Patrick Wilson, like, well, when after me dad died, we moved back to the States, back to where my mom is from.
Like, I don't care.
You truly don't give a shit.
You throw in that one stray line. Like, they do in Schwarzenegger.
movies you know it's like yeah i was born in austria but then i came here and i'm a cop
you know yeah it's supposed to be about his partnership with patrick wilson like if you want to
build a buddy team they should be talking about those things like i know most things are like
show don't tell but like stuff like that like my mom is like it has it doesn't remember me like
stuff like that is stuff that would make them intimately connected or like Patrick wilson's
fucking mad at nassah as well and starts leaking shit to this that'd be nice oh that would
be kind of cool. What's actually interesting
about
this guy, John Bradley,
you know, we know him as
you know just playing an Englishman on that Game of Thrones
right, but what's funny is
the first time you hear him speak in the movie
he is doing an American accent
because he's pretending to be this
doctor. Yes. And before I
put that together, I was like, oh man,
they're making this guy from Game of Thrones
do a fucking American accent. Why?
And then thankfully, like the very next
scene he's talking like himself.
Because nobody from London or Britain
Has ever taught at a University of California
It's just it's never happened ever
In the history of time
So yeah he works at whatever
I was surprised I mean I guess because
God the new Godzilla snapped it up first
This guy doesn't have a podcast
Like it would be so obvious
Like welcome back to my YouTube channel
Or whatever or something thing
Instead they have a website
Where he does have like a vlog of some kind
That's right
It looks more like the real
Ridler's website
from the
Batman
it's more of
that type
you're seeing
it precisely
one time
you know
like his name
is not
podcast
which I know
was not
the Godzilla
movie
but similar
I just
you gotta redo
the script
what's that
podcast
there the moon's
in trouble
show me
podcast go
you know what
podcast
you and I
have a lot
of the same
thoughts
about Elon Musk
and conspiracy
theories
Nyang
speaking of
conspiracy theories
later in
the movie
we do get a reference to security level Q clearance.
Oh, really?
Oh, yes.
That's what the NASA outgoing director gives Hallie Berry.
Harper, we've got to go to the Capitol.
They're stealing it from the president.
We've got to rush the Capitol Harper.
Well, you know, I just got disgraced from NASA.
I don't know if that's the best idea for me, but.
The Shaman told me we have to go to the Capitol on chance.
Fair enough.
if your medicine man said it, let's go.
Harper, we have to go and we have to take AOC's hairbrush
for very conspiratorial reasons for me.
It's definitely not for whacking off.
It's just for conspiratorial reasons.
It's very, it's for intelligence reasons.
It's not for me to smelly smell while I wank.
Okay, but I get first breath.
Okay.
I don't want to come on a comb.
I just need it for science reasons.
Harper, take this hammer and go to Nancy Pelosi's house.
He might have done it.
He might have done it at that point of his life.
So NASA is like kind of starting to figure out some readings here.
Some dudes like, hey, the moon's orbital radius is decreasing.
And it cuts back and forth with housemen like trying to figure out.
like how he can get in touch with NASA
because we see him call at one point
and it's like the NASA gift shop
Har Har Har. So he comes home
And this is like the first of a couple
of the lines where they have this character
S that dude's D
but this is where he's like
How do I call NASA?
How would I call NASA?
Oh, what would Elon do?
And then like the joke is
he goes and like talk shit on the internet
And that's how he drums up
Worldwide Awareness.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what they're doing.
doing smart move
what would Elon do
well first he'd ask his mother for some more
emeralds yes he would talk
to the Saudis and get some
bank funds going and then
they'd be right on a roll right then
take his other companies
that Hallie Barry the head of NASA she's just
a pedophile
Jessica
just in the foul as a pedophile
um
what do you
he's got this he's got this cat that's named fuzz aldrin of course that's fun and my question
about this for the for the cat folks here okay so i've never owned a cat i'm too allergic um when they're
just like angerly pissing all over your house what's going on there that means you're not taking
care of your cat at all exactly oh i said that litter box probably never been fucking cleaned it
means he's lashing out he probably doesn't get any attention he's not getting played with he's probably
not being fed adequately oh no that's what also you
would do he would ignore his loved ones
he would ignore things that he was supposed to be
responsible for is also what Elon would do so I'm doing
that he could piss and shit everywhere he likes
when we were moving for the first time one of my cats
just to look my wife dead in the eye because it was
like weeks of like moving boxes and like everything was
unrest for the first time in this cat's life he just
sat down on a pile of clothes that my wife was folding
and pissed on him while looking at it like oh my god
and he's never done that before or since but like that's
you know some that is how they
kind of communicate to you.
Remind you who's in charge, you know.
Well, I guess, yeah, so I guess he is
trying to communicate here because the cat
pisses all over this newspaper clipping
that this gentleman then picks up with his bare hands.
Oh, dude, yeah, yikes, dude.
And he's like, it's like an, it's like an
advertisement for Astronaut Day
at the observatory. And he's like,
oh, thank you, Fuzz Aldrin,
for pissing on me newspapers.
I'm not going to have washed me heads.
Bye, Fuzzoldren. Yeah, then he
licks his fingers and he gets out there.
starts talking to Patrick Wilson
who is like also like
I kind of would have loved it if they just
went in as like lethal weapon style
this guy's just an alcoholic
like just like explain it later
what happened and everything like I didn't need that
little brain I know people needed it
but like if he was just an alcoholic and be like
yeah well Hellie Barry kind of
fucked me over
there's clearly
smarter ways to do it dude and that fucking moving
scene is just for really
dumb motherfuckers
also why you don't just say
what's happening to the moon as we see
the moon is farting
the moon is letting off
lots of streams of black gas
like yes just too much cheese
too much a lot of stuff also it's got this
AI bug inside it
but like it's funny that they're just like
oh yeah there's a bunch of gas
floating into our face
this is scary
this is a scary thing that's happening
they uh he has this like uh conference with these kids and like uh you know um houseman gets there
first so he's like pretending to be patrick wilson and he's telling them all these crazy conspiracy
theories some of which are true or at least like people do actually believe which is always great
you always want to encourage these people like the ideas which ones which are wait you're saying
yeah were you pinning down some real ones here you're saying that what he's saying his conspiracy
theories are actually true is what you're saying no no not true but are believed by people on this
earth in the real world. They're not just conspiracy theories
written for the movie. Exactly. Something, something
about how the moon's distance is
exactly three times away from
the fucking sun and three times away
from the whatever. All that stuff is just
like, why is that children? And it's like, I don't know, dude, just because
that's how it is? Yeah, but then so how does that
relate back to the Jews though, dude? That's a great
question. Well, three plus three, you've got six,
six, six, six eventually, you know?
Mark of the Beast.
Dude, you just like see these people online.
doing the fucking gymnastics to make this stuff
work in their head. It is some of the saddest shit, man.
I mean, it's funny. Don't get me wrong. It is hilarious, but it's also
like dangerously sad. Yes. Yes.
So my man
here, Casey goes to see Brian, but
also conspiracy pills all these kids into
believing in megastructures. And this teacher who went away
to go figure out something is fired.
for sure.
Absolutely.
You just left these kids
in the middle of the
Griffith Observatory or whatever?
Like, what did you learn today?
Billy?
Well, we learned that the Earth was flat, actually.
We learned about Jewish space laser.
The moon is the death star,
and it's crazy the restraint
to not quote any of those lines
from Star Wars.
Absolutely.
You also get the one kid
who's like Jason Reitman from Ghostbusters 2
is like, yeah.
You're full of crap.
You're just don't,
you're an astronaut you're full of crap
no you don't look like an astronaut
you're full of crap that's his old thing
because you're you're a big fat guy right
you don't look like an astronaut
and I love his light he goes
the damn moon is hollow
now put that in your pipe and smoke it
the damn moon is hollow
come on man
while this is going on
this is where Patrick Wilson's like waking up
and you're totally right Chris make him really hung over
here, make it, liquor bottles all over the place.
But when he dodges this landlord,
this is some of the really bad
fucking screen background stuff I was talking about.
Like, when he jumps out
of the driveway on that motorcycle,
that is completely in front of a screen.
When he pulls up to the observatory,
like that parking lot, all of that is
totally screened.
And it looks so bad.
It looks really bad because it's all so much
more like very clearly like
cartoonish-looking escapapar
to everything. Like, when they go
to the hotel, too, it's like completely
looks like shit until you get into the
actual hotel because then it's actually stylized.
But before then, it just looks like a cartoon.
Because all of that is fake. Like, that sign
is just fake. CGA. It's
goddamn. I mean, this is
a really nice
like warning sign for like, hey, you
want to use this fucking, you know, LCD
technology or whatever. Like, look
what happens when you use it poorly.
You're making me like getting nostalgic
overseeing like a neon
sign shot on real film
like that's literally all I want to see
at this point and I can't fucking get it
you'll never see that again it's going to be in like
a Nolan film and that's it
yeah like you're spending hundreds of million
dollars on this movie and I know you're not shooting it
in the United States it's in Canada but like
you couldn't take a day
to have Patrick Wilson just get a permit
have Patrick Wilson right up on a motorcycle in front of the
Griffin Observatory or just use another building
that you have easier access to as you're
I mean come on
Nope, we got to flush the moon.
So you got to, we got to move on to
flushing more moons before we do that.
So Patrick Wilson shows up
and he gets these security guards to like escort
houseman out of there and
houseman's got a bunch of his research printed out.
And he's like, hey, just read it.
You know, and then he's like, why does it smell like cat piss?
No reason. Just read it.
Is this a tea?
Probably not.
Probably cat piss.
Oh, get back to you after you read it.
There's got to be someone out there drinking cat piss at tea time, right?
That's what they do instead of getting vaccinated, dude.
This is the way out.
I love this moment where, like, he's leaving the observatory or something.
It's something around this time.
the wife is
like, this is where
the wife calls and she's like, I can't
believe you're calling right, like, you know,
what's going, with all that's
going on or something like that. And he's like,
what are you talking about? And like, we cut
to fucking white Bronco, O.J. Simpson
films. What are we
like, what are we doing? The sun
is in a high speed car chase in the fucking
opening minutes of this movie? I thought
we were talking about the moonfall.
Exactly. This is going to set up
his great driving later
in the film escaping the moon
falling. God damn, it's dumb.
I mean, he does a moon, he does a moon jump.
Yeah, he does the moon jump.
We actually don't get enough of, you know, I know I don't even want him in the movie.
I don't even want this section.
But to build it up like this, him being pulled over for this car chase or whatever,
we really don't get enough of him doing that at the end of the film.
No, no, we don't.
And I honestly, if you're going to introduce a teenage son like this and actually use
them, which they do, which is terrible.
what you should do
is just send him to space
get him up there too
oh if he got in on it
yeah I mean you can even
I know Steve is gonna
is gonna yell in a minute
but even as a stowaway
I would I would at least accept it
no you know what
in this instance
if we're stowing away
to streamline the narrative
I can get behind it Chris
in this one instance
okay
I like that
because it does come together
quickly when they do have to take off
like he could just fucking
to be like, oh, I'm going, I'm leaving
now, but, but, but, but, but inside.
Because it is, it's very like, that part
is very much like contact, you know what I mean, like
where the first one blows up and the next one you have to use it.
And just do that and be like, we just need another
set of hands. Sunny, you happen
to be here. You want to come up
and just help your dad? It's like, absolutely.
We don't have a suit for you, so you'll probably
die very soon.
Do you want to help for a second? You have no
training to go into space. In this movie, it's
kind of just like taking along
like a cross-country flights. Don't worry about it.
it's not so bad you could you could sort of position i mean you have him you know skillfully
driving this car maybe it's a thing where he's a fucking you know gearhead he's a car enthusiast and so it's
like all right you have some mechanical skills that you know it's not a one to one but that might
transfer we could use an extra set of hands or something because let's face it game of thrones guy
isn't going to be much for getting around the shape you know talking about car guy and shit you could
have condensed that with the j leno's garage that uh patrick wilson has and maybe doesn't even
have to be as estranged as the movie has us, but I know, I know Roland loves divorce, so here
we are. Which, like, you could still have divorce and have the kid have a good relationship
with his father, you know. But impossible. No, I'm kidding. But so this guy, this kid goes to,
he just turned 18 and like, hey, we have to treat you like an adult. And like, it's the
hearing. And then Patrick Wilson's like, the drugs weren't his. It were his friends. He was
just scared. What the fuck. And like, pardon me? I don't know. I don't know what a drugs.
I wanted more of that arrest scene now.
Yes, exactly.
Well, the arrest scene that you do see is just from the TV,
and it is hilarious because, again, in this world that this movie is set in,
like the United States public at large is way more tuned in to the lives and names of astronauts.
Because when this kid's getting arrested, they're like, oh yeah, you know, fucking sunny so-and-so.
You know him as the son of disgraced astronauts.
Come on. Come on. No way.
The son of aeronautical shithead Brian Harper is being fucking in the middle of news.
Like this is like a huge news break. And this is supposed to be California, right?
Yes. Yes. It's Los Angeles.
This is major dues that this fucking shithead is doing this. Like I don't know. I think the LA News loves doing like high speed car chases.
I do. Because they're always crossing their fingers.
Oh, come on, man.
I let it happen to happen again.
Come on, baby.
A fiery wreck, shootout, OJ2.
Yeah, any of that.
OJ2, he's back and better than ever.
They rebuilt him stronger, faster.
He's killed two waiters now.
Now he's Nevada's problem.
Meanwhile, Michael Pena was like, he hired the lawyer and he's pissed and like, well, you know,
how are we going to get sunny out of jail?
It's like, well, he's going to have to cool his heels for a weekend, but then we're going to figure it out.
this kid, the story that you don't see
is this kid in fucking real LA jail
while the moon is falling
when the military comes to get him
there's nothing left
they're like first of all like
who's like the moon is falling
like you're telling me these guards are showing up for work
nope absolutely not like no one's feeding these people
we hate the prisoners in this country
all of these people would have starved to death long ago
quickly to leap back to OJ2
I got the tagline there
courtesy of Chris Cabin.
You're OJ2 colon, Nevada
going to believe this.
Nevada going to believe this.
Yeah, you know what?
I'll take it.
Yeah.
I love that.
That could also be the...
That would look good on a poster.
That could also be the New York Post headline for when he gets married again.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Steve, you were talking about the prisoner's situation.
Well, no, I mean, it's the second time I'm going to be able to say this.
It would turn into Jose Saramago's blindness very quickly.
And everybody would just be blind in fucking eating each other and killing each other.
And that's kind of how it would be.
Oh, no, no.
I was just reminded.
I read that book, like, I don't know, decade, like almost over a decade ago at this point.
But, like, I was just thinking about the other day.
And I'm thinking about, like, societal collapse, because this would be societal collapse immediately.
Oh, absolutely.
And the last place you want to be is in jail at that point.
Absolutely.
the last place you want to be
it's such a fucking tease though
Eric like we see it
but it is such a little
it's just like seeing a fucking tit for two seconds
oh total tease
oh my god I like that
because you like I need more of that
you get a terrorist on the news too
they're talking about religious sex doing violence
and you see like
yeah like sex cults breaking out
yeah it starts like footage on the news of looting
and they're like chaos
blah blah sort of like the news now
Keith Rainiery is fucking running freeing
Yeah, but then they got this guy with
like guns and this beard and it's like
oh boy, the terrorists are here
now. I'm like, what?
The religious fanatics. Armed religious
fanatics is the terms they use with this.
And I was wondering, do you think that's just
to set up the weird
guys at the end? The hick militants
which would be nice if we leaned
into that. Like, give me anything
from that to that.
The way that they
focus in on the television
News broadcast again
when they're talking about
some guy who has created
this like sex cult
that is like rising up or whatever
and they show the guy and it's like an
actor playing this guy I was like
oh because this is a
Roland Emmerks movie man and like
he loves folks in a bunch of different groups
of people we are going to see what
these people are doing during the moonfall
shit that would be cool and they never cut back
to that guy well because there's no
there's no scope whatsoever to your point
it is a tit for for two seconds like i would love to see like what is what is anything like
you know what i mean like even 2012 does this better because it had a better bigger budget
in terms of just like kind of showing the world off the rails you know what i mean and just
like the moon is getting closer and closer like that that becomes evident uh because uh houseman
leaks that news uh it's kind of great uh hallie berry is like number two at nassah we're not talking
about her a lot who cares
she's number two at NASA
her boss is just like
you always wanted my job
you got it I'm going
and everyone's just going to Colorado
like Colorado is like this
we were just there it's lovely
it's not invincible
no it's closer to the moon
it's closer
I mean the thing that
you made me realize something
Steve as you were saying that
like really besides
the Roland Emrick
ubiquitous New York City
being destroyed
in that one shot.
You see the...
New York gets drilled.
Chrysler building
gets fucking punted like a football.
Did you notice the one building
he didn't destroy?
The Freedom Tower stands.
Come on.
Give it a...
Give it a hit.
They cut before it definitely is destroyed.
I mean, it's not making out of it.
But like, aside from that...
Bad taste.
The moon would think that's bad taste.
I can't take that down.
The moon would say too soon.
But,
Besides that, though, it really does feel that once we leave L.A., this movie, like, the only place the moon is falling is in Colorado.
Because none of the characters are spread out, like, in 2012, isn't there also like, there's those guys at the science station and they have their own little story.
And they never meet anybody else.
It's very much more spread out in 2012, which it's not a good movie, but it's better than this.
So, and like, ID4, you have, you know, not a ton of it, but it's like at least people in different parts of the country.
and then you see at least here and there
the shots of the different groups
all over the world.
Different kinds of people too in that film.
Really quickly, a line of,
I watched this movie by the way
in theaters because I was so excited
at the trailer looked so stupid to be in my way.
Incredible.
Wow, so you contribute to the $11 million
box.
It was two of us and we got drinks at Alamo
so we were probably, I don't know if that goes
towards the box off.
Sorry, $19 million.
It made in the United States
and Canada. That is
really, really terrible.
We didn't get chicken fingers.
So maybe that,
to your point, I'll just toss out there
because it's a little interesting fact.
Sometimes depending on, you know,
whatever the deal is that the company is demanding,
and this is strictly with like bigger films only,
like Disney kind of stuff.
They may sometimes say like, cool,
like our take is this percentage of your ticket sales
and also this percentage of your fucking concession.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Every once in a while.
while that will happen. That's insane.
But sometimes your Moonhattan will count
towards Moon Falls budget.
Oh, well done, dude.
Did you have a Moonhattan, Steve?
I had a moon over Miami, though.
So here's the question.
There's this line, it's like these two science guys
who don't eat shit at the end of the movie and they should.
Which science guys?
The two science guys.
Oh, they do eat shit.
The white guy and the black guy?
Yes, those two guys.
Oh, they go down hard.
They do go down. But like when the moon stuff is being revealed and the guys like the first head of NASA is like, oh my God, that means we have three months like, well, no, actually, sir, because the moon is getting closer, time is going to change and months will be shorter. Therefore, we only have three weeks. And I'm like, yep, none of that makes sense.
Why don't you just start with three weeks?
Just tell me three weeks.
What's with this fucking nice little fucking three months?
So if the moon started to rapidly spit around the globe faster,
you think everyone's like, that's a day, that's a day,
that's you just flip in your calendar.
No, you're fucking like internal clocks of the clocks you have on your phone,
etc.
They would not follow,
they don't follow the moon.
Nobody has any sense of time anyway.
The world is ending fucking maniacs.
Time is fake.
It's fucking bullshit, dude.
I would love like a seven-minute Thanksgiving scene.
Literally, it's just like, all right, it's the seven minutes it's Thanksgiving.
We're going to celebrate it.
Cook a turkey in 20 minutes.
But you hold it out to that hot moon that's coming down.
Here it comes.
Yeah, you get ready.
And when the gravity starts getting wonky for whatever reason, you let the turkey go.
And it goes flying up.
And on its way up, it gets, like, cooked, you know, and going through the atmosphere.
And then by the time the moon keeps moving,
you know, then the turkey drops back down,
you catch it right on a track.
Yeah, moon roasted.
Moon roasted turkey, dude.
Two neighbors, like, at each other,
just hanging out outside,
right near the fucking mailbox.
And, you know, Bob,
I just feel like the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas
just gets quicker and quicker every year.
Oh, no, it's the moon's falling.
It's, everything's quicker now.
See that big fiery hole in the sky?
There's been 10 sunsets today.
Wait, there's the, what's going on?
Are you serious, man?
Oh, yeah.
The Marvel movies are like 15 minutes now, man.
I just want to watch them.
They go right back 15 minutes.
It would be interesting if you actually saw some consequences of the moon going around,
the earth multiple times.
I know the consequences of the tides and the flooding or whatever that does happen.
But like, show me some quick sunsets and sunrises and shit.
It'd be really kind of cool.
Yeah, exactly.
While they are discussing this whole like,
oops it's actually three weeks
they're like well so what are we
going to do how can we keep this from the public
the funniest part of this
movie is all of their phones
start exploding with
like emergency alert
updates that just goes moon
out of orbit
phone alert
you're to stop between I think yes
the earth rotates and that causes day and night
so maybe the moon wouldn't necessarily affect it
but maybe some more eclipses pal
exactly who knows
but this movie does say
that time would be faster
because the moon is rotating faster
that doesn't make any sense and it never has
if I move my legs faster my
I don't know time goes faster too then right
yes so how it works
Casey
Oh just trust Elon Eric
Whatever Elon says is what's true
Oh god
One of the
dumbest lines in this movie in a fucking
solar system of
stupid lines is when
Hallie Barry's like having it out with this NASA
guy and
she just goes
I work for the American
people and you're keeping them
in the dark and I'm just like
you know what you just you work for NASA
all right you know do you really work
for the American people
I don't think so. I don't think so the dark
the answer would be like hey man
you want me to tell them that the moon is falling
do you want your neighbor to fucking eat your child
tonight I don't think so
that's what's going to happen
you're going to go home and your kid is going to be between
two pieces of bread because we went on national
television. California Cheeseburger.
Exactly. And told people that
the moon was falling. If that
happened, are you eating a kid,
Steve, let's say, you see a nice plump
one across, you know, in the window
across the way. You going over there?
No, I mean, I would take the
Donald, which I will now call the Donald
Sutherland out of this one, dude.
Yeah. Which you know what? Fuck
you movies. Show me that shit.
Exactly.
He's fucking, he's rolling away in that wheelchair dude and he just like puts it on autopilot and he blows his brains out.
As the seat starts, I mean, it's a three-minute Donald Sutherland cameo, which is, you know, apparently.
Did you see the trivia?
Oh, go ahead.
You got it.
You got it.
His son, Rogue Sutherland was one of the Vackers of this.
Excuse me?
There's a rogue, Sutherland.
Roeg.
How are we?
We got a rogue Sutherland.
The Sutherland has gone rogue.
It's spelled, well, it's this, how would you say the.
the name of the director Nicholas
Reg. It's spelled the same
way. So however, his
name was pronounced. Maybe that's how this is pronounced.
No idea. R-O-E-G.
He is a
financier
and he was, his money
is part of this conglomerate
that made this one of the most expensive stupid movies
ever made. And
they're like, hey, do you want to ask your dad
if he wants to be in this?
And he is.
Yes, I named you after the
man who got me to
feel up Julie Christy
it was a lot of fun
I mean
I get it you know
like that stuff happens all the time
and everything and it's like it's a Canadian production
and sure the Sutherlands are Canadian royalty
and whatever but I don't know man
like you show me fucking Donald Sutherland
in a movie I'm hoping for at least 10 minutes
exactly
and the way that they set it up is like
he was this mysterious character
that like was charged
with, you know, like
hiding all of this information
about the conspiracy, like they knew it all
and everything. They knew that it was hollow
because of the Apollo 11 emission or whatever.
Yeah, yeah. So it's like, I don't know,
that's kind of fascinating. You're totally
swimming in this pool of conspiracy theories.
Like, this dude was involved in a cover-up.
Like, why is it not a character?
Do you think they tried to get Kiefer originally?
And they were like, wait, wait, wait, way,
a moon already landed on that guy.
Oh, totally.
dude, yeah. That guy already, he blew his brains out on a golf course.
Much better moonfall melancholy. I mean, I was going to say if Kiefer, I want his last
bit in this whole world is tackling that Christmas tree. I really, I really want that to be
the last work. I love that video. It's so wonderful. That's great, but he's also truly
great in melancholy. He is very good. And I mean, this is like, the thing I always think about
with Emrick is that because of all these characters you have, like the action does suffer tremendously
because of all the characters.
So he really is just like an altman
for shitheads. Yes.
Like it's just as many characters as you can get
in there and we're just going to have them
do the dumbest shit you've ever heard of.
Just how about a moon scrape?
We're going to do a moon flush and a moon scrape.
Just get a bunch of characters have to deal
with the moon scrape and that's it.
We'll let it ride.
And that's kind of what all those movies
have been other than like the Shakespeare movie.
The only thing that's missing though is like
you got to have all those people then like talking over
one another. Yes. Well, they are talking a lot. It's just all crap. It's just like the worst shit
you've ever heard. Hey, speaking of the worst shit you ever heard, I think another candidate for
worst line in this movie is that part where Michael Peña is like trying to talk with the wife
about like, let's just get a Colorado. Got to get a Colorado, dude. And they have the news
footage on in the background and it's getting kind of gnarly and whatever and scary for the kids. And
he goes, hey, Google, turn off TV.
Like, come on.
Just, God damn it.
If you have to do that, I mean, just do TV off.
Dude, why does it have to be a fucking commercial for Google?
We had a commercial for Lexus when we showed his job.
Dude, Lexus is the fucking fifth character of this movie.
Yeah.
Scott Eastwood, I think.
He plays Lexus, yeah.
Oh, man.
Imagine having to be the person who has to give the Lexus people a call after the fucking, what, the $2 million opening.
a lot of people are seeing it and they say that they like the Lexus in it
they like how we used it but it's just I don't know one of those things where it's like
it's a Lexus like do you really need to have it advertised in a movie I feel like if
you're a person that can afford to buy a Lexus you're aware that a Lexus exists
you're not buying it because of moodfall you're saying yeah yeah precisely but that's just the
thing it's like even from the point of view of just like the movie like
they're trying to sell it as like, you know what
would be the perfect vehicle for when the world
is ending, a Lexus.
Totally. I'm just like, who cares?
The official car of Armageddonet.
Just get me a truck or something. God damn it.
The official car, we're all dead.
Yeah, it's great.
I don't know if it's four horsemen.
It's four Lexusmen.
This is a hemmy.
It's got four horsemen of their apocalypse power.
What we're going to do for the next ad for Lexus is we're going to
have the beautiful Lexus
playing chess with Max von Seidau
and we're just going to see how that
goes. Get a new Lexus pestilence
today.
Don't wait
for the famine model. It might not come out.
Buy the new Lexus
horn of Gabriel.
I mean, to the
Donald Sutherland thing, you do want
at this point, we do expect an
ad Astra. You want that length
exactly. Yeah. Ad Astra
and backdraft have the perfect amount
of side Sutherland.
At Astros is as low as I'll go, dude.
You're absolutely right.
That's all I can do today.
By the way, great moon movie right there.
Fantastic.
Hell yeah.
James Gray got fucked over making that movie, man.
Release the gray cut.
Absolutely, please.
But so they decide, all right, we're going to launch some rockets to the moon and see
what's going on.
And this sort of montage is where we do get all the stuff about like looting civil
unrest is immediately going on.
This is where, oh, this is where it was.
they have the thing about religious fanaticism
and the guy looks exactly like Rasputin.
Oh yeah. This guy's going to be in the
character. Yes, he should be a character in the movie.
You got to make a guy that looks like
Grasputin, he's got to be in the movie. Like when they're about to figure it out
and he walks up with a suicide vest on
or something.
So it's exactly exactly contact is what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what? We just keep making contact again
because it was a better movie.
Very true. Underwatched movie that
contact. It's a much maligned.
Oh yeah. The Zemechus, before what lies beneath
that era kind of got forgotten, I think.
But like the hotel, so Harper goes to meet Casey at the hotel, and this is where we start
getting the flooding.
And there's this scene where very clearly Harper is looking at Casey, getting swept up by the
tides, and is wondering, do I save this fat man?
Oh, yeah.
Do I want to bother?
Because, like, come on, he's right there.
I can't swim.
First of all, come on.
come on you can't swim
I mean you can swim even a little bit
to the stairs that are four inches away
from it come on I can barely
swim but I can get those stairs I mean hey
he's asking for it doggy paddle
it come on exactly work for it dude
he's he like what is it
he gets like swept up and just
staring at the tidal wave like
because Patrick Wilson has to be like
hey man you know tidal wave
and shit and this dude just like staring
at it and it smashes I thought this dude
was dead I was like all right
He just got hit with a title wave
and like glass coming at him at a very
forceful speed. And then instead at the end
we get, we got to do it for Casey.
Oh, dude, whatever.
Jesus Christ.
But it's kind of great.
So like, yeah, there's this stupid conference and like
we're taking some pot shots of conspiracy theories.
But yes, the title wave comes in.
Oswald did it.
Now, Gary.
Not now, Gary.
What's funny about that line too
is him shouting out that
Oswald did it.
That's like the Warren Commission's report on it.
Exactly. That's the opposite of conspiracy.
Yes, exactly.
It's the actual thing that is supposedly happened, which it definitely didn't.
Did not.
But, yeah.
But they, so like now it's just him and Patrick Wilson in this hotel room together.
Like, well, I guess the world is ending.
Going to just like bunk up for the night.
Dude, it's fucking bathrobe time with these guys.
Dude of them in bathrooms is hilarious.
Like, we're just drying our clothes out, I guess.
is the idea, but it's just a couple of dudes
hanging out in a hotel room
talking about how terrible their lives
are in bathrooms.
My dad was a flat earther.
He often told me
that you could fall off the edge of the
world and that's what my mom said
he did. He fell off the edge of the world.
He went out for cigarettes and fell off
the edge of the world, he did.
I knew daddy was too close
to the edge of the world. I was like,
Don't come back, Daddy.
Why don't you go buy cigarettes at a store that's not so close to the edge of the world?
Are you telling me the ice guards didn't stop him?
No.
The guys with the machine guns on the edge of the world?
No, they didn't, Mr. Harper, but daddy, he got too close to the truth.
Wait, Eric, is that seriously a conspiracy thing?
Yes, yeah, yeah, that there's, like, I guess, like armed personnel to stop you from finding out the truth that the world ends at that.
point. And our personnel, like not from any particular
government. I don't remember. Ice knights, much like game of
Thrones. Right. Yeah. That's exactly. Like the wall. Yeah.
But so like at this point, Hallie Berry has sent
government helicopters. Very important that government helicopters
never go out of business. That they can get you anywhere you need to go
in exactly five minutes, no matter what. No matter what the script
details. So they get picked
up by helicopters like
I got to bring my fat friend here with me
because he knew that the moon was falling like I don't
know dude you barely met this
guy he had you pissy paper
and all of a sudden your best
buds. He read well he read
all the piss paper
and was like despite the fact that
the entire time I was reading this I was
choking back vomit
his calculations are stunningly
accurate so like he's on
board with it and I guess
maybe because
you know he doesn't know
how our friend here
came to this information
he brings him along
so the guy can like back it up or whatever
but normally you're right Steve
like shoot this guy in the head
and just take the professional astronaut
with you. Yes and make it about
what you two want to do
rather than what this guy
wants to do
because he's pretty annoying
I'll be honest and honestly
if he can't swim
you're going to bring him up to space
you really honestly
think that's an okay thing to do.
I mean, talk about the, you know, to quote Arbigan
and the great William Fickner, talk about
the wrong stuff.
He says that in that
movie. Is the like
all the training you do where you're
in time like cyclotrons and you're
spitting around and not throwing up and all this
stuff like the mental and physical
anguish you have to get to get inside
of a fucking astronauts cockpit.
This guy is just
there. He was a janitor yesterday.
And now he's just did it.
Well, that is the, that is the thing that I find really fascinating about this movie, Steve,
is because it really puts through the notion, not just with your crew,
but like the whole act of going into space is just as simple as peeling a car out of a drive.
Yes.
Because when they like are, you know, eventually, you know, we're getting a little ahead of ourselves here,
but it comes down to like, you know, there's one rocket left and, you know, they have to chitter get off the pot
and do this thing. So it's Halliberry
Patrick Wilson and our friend Mr. Casey
Hausman here in the rocket. And
Hallie Barry's like, all right, everybody else
can go home except these two other dudes. That's all
we really need to get this launch off.
And then they get into the spacecraft. And she's
like, all right, dudes, you guys can go
home. I'll take it from here. And she just like
fires her up and drives the
fucking space. It can't be that simple.
And literally when she
fires it up, there's water.
from a flood
engulfing this thing
and they just make it out
and I'm like, no, that's not how it works.
I think she pulled
the view finder down
or the sunblock thing down
and got the keys that way.
Oh, I think that's
definitely.
The Kenny Loggins music starts playing.
Patrick Wilson, you're flooding it.
You're flooding it. You're flooding it.
We're just going to the fucking danger zone
so casually, just flying in the space.
It is so.
so fucking funny. Also, like,
when Halliberry has that impassioned speech
because, like, yes, it's very much like contact. The first
one is destroy, or they have only one
rocket left, et cetera, et cetera. I just like,
you know what? All of you people have
done great work to get us up to speed. You can now
go home. I'd be like, hey, my
house is under 50 feet
of water. I guess I'll stay here for the
night. If that's cool with you.
You know, I think
yes, that's definitely
some dudes would definitely have to do that. But it
is funny, Steve, that there's
not, what I was totally expecting
to have happened was the fucking control
room to radio back
and be like, I don't think so, ma'am.
We're with you till the end.
But everybody's like,
no, yeah, fuck this.
And they all just abandoned them.
They all run to Colorado and they're all
killed by religious extremists.
They immediately get on
all these helicopters and they all fall into
gravity waves of water
that drown them. And like,
it's immediate. Like, they get on these
helicopters immediately. And that's after, by the way, we've also survived some like earthquake
that shattered the entire building and then everything's just right back up afterwards. Yeah,
everything's totally fucking fine. I really, I would, I would have to kick this because what
they do is they go and get the endeavor from some fucking museum. Uh, and that's,
which has graffiti on it that says fuck the moon because people were mad at the moon. I love that
detail. It's very funny. They actually call it back when she's like, oh,
You know what? I'm kind of liking Fuck the Moon now on the side.
But if you heard this Casey Hausman, you're in this fucking truck hauling this goddamn endeavor down the road.
There are gas thieves just everywhere around you.
And this idiot just says, wow, this is exciting.
Wouldn't you be like, I have to kick him out of the car?
He has to go away.
It's just got to be us.
I'm sorry.
Nothing is exciting.
people are cannibalism
this is exciting
they should have
of mice and men
with that guy
yes please
well they kind of
hey oh hey
Casey could you
read this
this print out really quickly
we got some new data
and we'd love you
to analyze
and he just like
turns toward the river
and looks at it
reading his paper
and then they just blow
his fucking brains out
no he reads his paper
and just says
this is exciting
and you're going
to kill me
aren't you well
fine
just let me have a final prayer
I believe in one
Elon the father
the almighty
the creator of
Twitter and SpaceX
I hope I'm a
reply guy in heaven
oh
favorite me in heaven
Elon
favorite me in heaven
steal my memes
in heaven
Elon steal my memes
yeah I did it all
for the memes
not that but memes
also, if you're trying to save the world
from a moon far, you is petaphyl
because the moonfall will actually kill
all the petapiles. So you must be
anti-killing petapiles. Right, and Mars is
where the non-petophiles are. That's right, Mr. Musk.
Thank you, Eric. I do love
Hallie Berry looking at the fucking footage
of that astronaut team. Oh, yeah.
And the fucking, like,
it's not a creature really but the nanobots like jamming into these fucking helmets killing
these people pretty cool stuff yeah cool enough but it's just like I just I hate the way these
things look and slash do not look you know what I mean like it is yeah it looks like a sci-fi movie
like sci-fi channel yes it is pretty cheap that the only way you see it is through the fucking
security footage like you don't see it when it happens I don't think anyway by the way over an hour
into this. We have not mentioned Kelly
you as Michelle because she is a
non-character. She does
three and a half things. The first scene with her
it's Hallie Barry, she's like getting her kid ready for
bed and she's ready for breakfast and she's like
hey, could you just make sure that he
and like not, could you just make
sure that he gets ready for school and he has breakfast
and she's like, no problem. Absolutely.
I'm like, are they going to relate? I really thought
I was like, hey, moonfall. Yeah.
I was like, cool, man. Good for moonfall.
Yeah. It would please explore
this more. But it turns out not
be the case? She's just a
exchange student that lives with
Halliberry. That is not the dynamic they are
playing in that scene. I'm sorry.
Just plain, like, I'm more willing
to believe the idea that they first shot
it with the idea that they were a couple and then we're
like, let's say maybe not. And then we're
like, oh yeah, he's a nanny or something.
A foreign exchange student
who is sentenced to be your
nanny for your son?
What is this? Great question.
Yeah, it's not great. But like, also,
Yeah, there's a, there's an intimacy to that first scene.
I was actually really excited.
They're groggy, they are just in their PJs, hanging each other, coffee.
It feels like, it feels like a couple.
Yes, because Hallie Barry's like, you got to do this for the boy.
You know, he's got this to do today.
And this is, the numbers on the fridge, blah, blah, blah.
And then, you know, they cut.
And, you know, Kelly, you like, sort of like fucking bites or lower lip and it's just like,
I have everything under control.
Don't worry about it.
And I was like, do you just eat her out?
I was really stunned that that is not the case.
It's as intimate as the Maxwell House.
You're my present this year, you know what I mean?
It's all of that same kind of like sleepy, dreamy intimacy.
Yes.
And it's worse because then when you get her with Sunny,
there's like no chemistry whatsoever, period.
at all, period. And like, there's nobody that she connects with so easily as she does with
Haley Barry. Yeah. It's just weird that you can't really make. And like, yeah, she's just
like, uh, yeah, I'm just here to help. Essentially is her whole character's like, hi, here to help.
Hi. Whatever I, I end to help the Chinese box office numbers. Of course. Oh, yeah. Well, you got
Chinese money in this movie. Absolutely. They're hoping that it works. It did better there than here,
I think. Well, of course it did. I mean, she also has this, uh, her ex-husband.
who is military guy
and like...
Doug?
I am military guy, Doug.
The worst actor
I have ever seen.
He's particularly bad.
It's really something else.
He's always squinting.
I don't know if he's high
or lost his glasses.
But it is really difficult
to pay attention to the movie.
It's hard enough in general.
But when he's on,
I like literally just shut down.
I just can't do it.
I kept thinking he was a robot.
I was like,
is this guy supposed to be a Terminator?
Is that another twist in this movie?
I don't get it.
And I don't get it.
don't get how Hallie Barry would want to marry this man, please.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Maybe for the government connections.
Maybe, maybe that's.
But yeah, he's just like the other guy that's like, hey, by the way, we're going to nuke
the moon because it's like that kind of a movie where the moon shall be nuked if we don't
get it ready in time.
You know what I mean?
You only have, there's a short amount of time left or else the moon's going to get
nuke.
Oh, this guy, I guess, was on that Marvel's Inhuman shows.
Oh, so they hired an inhuman actor to play.
was he the voice of the dog
no he played gorgon
oh cool
gorgon ringing any bells
remember him
I mean it's
I have difficulty remembering
the z level Marvel property
that I was supposed to give a shit about
can we get some gorgon
for the tip
yes sir
it was spicy or not spicy
chili on it
oh spicy gorgon
the only way to gorg
yeah I take I take it spicy
yeah
I mean
even fucking
Michael Bay's Transformers movies
give you more sense of how things are affected worldwide
than this movie does.
This movie is just like, you know, we got the security footage,
you know, we got security footage from a lot of places, actually.
It's really cheap to shoot.
And we got it from, like, actually, this is all from Asia.
Just generally Asia.
That's just all it's from.
Like, they don't even say like, oh, this is China.
This is what, like, it's just like, no, this is the Asian feed we've got going here.
And this is where all the bad stuff is happening.
By the way, back to gravity waves
and the fucking mission.
Oh, by the way, SpaceX is helping us.
Thank you, Elon.
That's right. Yes, that's another thing is our friends
at SpaceX are helping us and then
No, oh, I miss it.
It's the friends at SpaceX and the Chinese government.
Yes, thank you.
Our friends at SpaceX are helping us, which causes
Housemen to say, I love Elon.
Oh, I love Elon.
Oh, man.
Just two Elon.
Yeah, the best movie of the year was Moon for.
Because it's the first.
movie to so severely
suck my dick.
You know what? It could actually happen.
You know that the moonfall, it could
actually happen. I have scientists
that says so.
Wow, he's brilliant. He's absolutely brilliant.
He's the best. If you look at the box
office numbers of moonfall, it actually
did better than the Batman,
but the lips don't want
you to believe that. You have to look at the
numbers that are not being reported.
So, whatever.
They're going, they are now flying into space.
It's just Halliberry here, Patrick Wilson and Houseman.
Meanwhile, Sonny and Kelly Who and Halliburys adorable son are driving to Denver where
nothing could ever bad happen.
That's true.
The very cute son at one point, it says, goes, Hallibir walks in the room and he's just like,
Mommy, are we going to die?
Thank you, son.
That's the biggest laugh I had of the whole movie.
The shit with Colorado, you either need to, like, say NORAD or show me the real bunker shit.
I think you see a shot of this, the inhuman guy walking through it at one point.
Yes.
But that's it.
It's really lax in the whole, this is a government facility department.
Yeah.
Right.
I really, really don't buy it.
There's like the one desk, like at the point where they're supposed to turn the keys and everything.
And then there's the door that opens that he's like backing into when he's got the gun on them.
But like, it really is the team.
That's true. There is that moment where it's like, turn your key, sir, we have to nuke the moon.
He's like, I'm not going to do it. My wife's in the moon right now, okay?
She's fixing the moon, if you please, okay? She's going to do it. Don't worry about it.
It reminds me so much of that place like in the departed where they're doing the surveillance for the micropoc processors.
It's just that like little scene like you literally could just open a door and like, oh, this is where the nukes are.
Oh, okay. Interesting.
Hi, nice.
So the whole idea here with Patrick Wilson and co is they determine that this fucking, you know, big nanobot creature comes to attack electronic sources or so they think.
So they are going to like go up, you know, fly to the moon at the right moment, flip on the electronics to lure this thing out of the moon hole.
Oh man
And then they're going to bomb it
They're going to set up
An EMP is going to go off
And destroy this thing
Is the idea
Sure
Yeah that's it
And I mean listen
It's not any dumber
Than Armageddon
Sure
Hmm
What is what is
Dumber about this
I guess the nanobody
The megastructures
In general I'd be like
Yeah I don't know
It's just a it's just a meteor
or a comet
That we have to blow up
I just mean specifically about the plan, though.
Sure, drilling it.
Then there's this thing that we figure out halfway through,
which is that the,
what do you call it there?
The nanobots will only attack technology,
but it has to have some sort of living creature inside with it,
which by the way,
in case, this is where Fuzz Aldrin should have been involved.
Like, you know, dude.
Oh, totally, man.
Hey, Fuzz Alder, do you want to save the human race?
But I guess we're all just sending up this sort of like a V.
thing where it's like cool with fucking robot people or whatever and it's just a
yeah yeah yeah because this whole i mean this is a weird like you get the backstory about all this
oh you sure do in the fucking back nine of this movie and i mean it's a lot to digest but basically
these nanobots are like from a whole other story where the beginning of the matrix kind
of happened yeah i took over and is hunting all the humans and so like this
little nano guy is programmed
to just destroy any
organic life. And this moon
was one of many moons and this is the last
moon and it made life on earth
and blah blah blah the other ones got destroyed
by the sentinels that the agents
sent out.
They are definitely just
sentinels, man. Absolutely.
Yeah, the AI sentinels, like they
killed all these people. It looks like
after Earth. It looks like the Shyamalan
like world. Yeah, it does. And then
like yeah this is just one big swarm
which is a very compelling villain
no silence
it's fucking like
I just I'm like anything to have a bill
even if you have like an architect
like guy in the fucking moon
you've already you've got me to buy the fucking
megastructure moon bullshit
you can't have a guy inside
you can't do a parlor scene with nothing
I mean fucking war games with the
program Joshua had a better parlor
scene absolutely no you're totally I mean
that is the biggest problem is this thing isn't talking and it's crazy because chris you just
mentioned how they you know they show the the holograms inside the moon and that's how like the
the ai talks to the people uh by representing like someone from their their memory also very
contact like by the way isn't that like her fucking father shows up in that movie it's exactly
yeah okay i haven't seen i haven't seen it a while but i was pretty sure that's how contact
kind of ends no it's exactly contact because it tells it's like this is the form you could
understand, let me tell you all about the moon
and blah, blah, blah. But yeah, you need
like, if the fucking whatever
the swarm turned into, I don't know,
fucking David Tennant or somebody, get
some evil British fucker in there.
Yes, that was the train of thought I totally lost,
but you're completely right, Steve. Like, we see
that technology is available with the moon shit.
So, ergo, this fucking big swarm
would be able to make something similar. And yeah, it's
just David Tennant, he's got a fucking duster
on, you know what I mean? Exactly.
that it's something, I'm looking at something.
I don't know. I mean, like, you already stole,
you already got Sutherland doing a role
that's similar to it. Just get Tommy Lee Jones
into this fucking hollow moon and
have him be, and look at, look, exactly
Patrick Wilson in the face, like, I didn't love your mother.
Or, yeah.
I just, I love the space. I love space.
And that's it. Have the AI take the
fucking visage of Donald Sutherland,
the guy who knew about this
for the start. Oh, that would be
cool, dude.
or it's Tommy Lee Jones from space cowboys
and it's reanimated corpse shit
or you know what honestly
because this movie did it at least twice
do it one more time and it's just like
you have chosen the form of the destructor
oh hello how are you
that's right I'm in shine the mood now
and fucking you right up you pedophile
hello Patrick Wilson
would you like to buy Twitter from me
are you do you I know you're
disgrace like I am. Do you have
any money? Would
you like some amyroats?
But yeah, it's a
gigando fucking stave puff
marshmallow man,
Kaiju-sized Elon Musk.
Wow, great ending, dude. I would love
that. I'm going to
kill you are because you won't stop
posting the picture with
Galane. That's true. Stop doing that.
Close personal friends with Delane
Maxwell. Pretty weird.
Good buddies. His jet went to the island 12 times.
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I do love these fucking turd kids getting mugged by these survivalists.
Oh, my God.
It is so funny.
One of these dudes is just like, you a college boy?
Well, in that case, let me give you some of my stuff because you already been robbed, son.
What if you say, no.
No, no, I'm not.
I got a GED.
It's just a lot.
It's just an 80s movie line.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
And he's got a gun.
They wind up driving.
They get to Denver where Michael Pena and his mother are and they pick up the kids.
And again, this is exactly what 2012 is.
Yes, but we need to get a Karen joke in here.
Oh, dude, the Karen joke is so bad.
It's a white lady guarding the town or the planned community or whatever.
Oh, yes.
And her name is Karen, of course.
Of course it is.
And that is some straight up fucking,
they should have ended the show already
Walking Dead stuff.
Yeah.
Like, oh, you're coming into our community
that we've built now and we're already
defending it with guns.
I just, I can't.
It's so. Yeah.
So they, what, they talked to Michael
Pena there and then he's like, oh,
oh, so there's not going to be oxygen
on the count of the
moon vacuum, whatever.
Spaceball one is coming down.
So we have to go to the fire department.
I know them. I sold them some Lexuses.
So we can get...
What is a fire truck?
What are you talking about?
The best fucking fire truck in all the land.
It's just sported out.
It's a big backseat for you.
Some fire departments you do see they have like other cars with like
fire department labeling.
on them. So I guess it's Aspen, so the the she-she fire department with their Lexus vehicle.
Or I guess he sold them to the individual firefighters, you know, possibly. A lot of it's
volunteer. So I don't know. I'll give you a good deal on this car. Put me on the VIP list for
if there's a fire at my house. Give me some extra oxygen, if you know what I mean.
Well, that's like, you know what would look great in your Lexus that you're just going to
drive like twice a year to a burning building and say hey you're doing a good job what you're
going to do you want terriaki leather interior is what you want you want you want cd you want ox cable
you want everything you want the bluetooth you want all of that stuff also uh all of our fire departments
are underwater uh it's weird that's how that's happening well that means the fire's out at least
yeah well they dude them uh i mean i know they're already in space but i just am recalling the
scene with them trying to explain
to houseman like that he's got to come with
them and he's like
oh the kids at school said I was too
chubby to go into space
they have to just be constantly
reassuring this character like no
Casey you're a fucking genius
it's totally worth it
that you're still on this planet man
come on it's not even it's like you're a real
person it's okay
it's like I'm like you
you haven't gotten over
the kids making funny of you it's
You're in space, motherfucker.
The world is about to end.
And also, by all those kids are dead.
They died with their father's
fucking hand in their mouth
between two pieces of bread.
Yes, they all did that.
Or they got vacuumed up to the moon.
That's the two options.
Steve, you said they had finger sandwiches?
Exactly.
I definitely need more shots of people
just randomly sucked up by the moon.
Yes.
Like what the fuck?
There needs to be more disaster shots.
like we mentioned Manhattan and we see like
L.A. flooding or whatever, but it's just
not enough. But
that wouldn't be like, that wouldn't be like
Nashville. You know, you have to
get, you got to have some character moments of just like
hanging out with people. You know, I would like
some character moments. You're right. But we don't
have them here. No, dude. Yeah,
like fucking, you just go to a bar
and like Lily Tomlin's like singing at
David Carradine and whatnot. Or is it
Keith Carradine maybe? I'm easy.
Because I'm easy. You know, like
the moon's falling outside, but it's still sex.
that's where I'd be. That's where I'd be.
Oh yeah, drinking myself to death, absolutely.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I'd be there. Gun to my mouth, ready to go.
Wait a second, I'm already there.
But the...
Oh, is the moon from?
Let's just say that tonight I'm going to act like the mood is falling.
Drink like the moon is falling and you'll never
want for anything. No, but all of these like
the gravity spills and the oxygen whatever's,
it's just DeiSX fucking screenplay.
Every single time, it works just enough
to get your characters where you need them to be,
put them in enough peril to pull it back
and then they're okay. Like nothing surprising
ever happens. You know, like they
would the oxygen,
the hillbilly start chasing them and then like
they do this super Mario cart jump
onto a mountain and like,
they're allowed to do that because the screenplay says so.
But ever,
the hillbillies just blow up. There is like,
they're bad guys.
Gravity waves happening. But yes,
it doesn't work on bad guys.
Yeah, bad guys don't get the gravity waves.
They don't get the fucking power up.
Like these dudes make this jump
in this beautiful Lexus.
And then these fucking hillbillies
trash their fucking he-haw mobile
into a huge rock
because they can't make the jump.
And it's a real like, oh, I've wasted my life.
That's kind of thing.
Oh my God, it is sad.
It gets a no.
It's also just getting at this point,
I'm like, this movie needs to end.
Like, the script keeps yes ending itself.
I don't appreciate it, really.
And it just keeps on, like, I don't care if Michael Pena dies.
Does anybody care of it?
No, that's so useless.
Three lines.
Like, it's him and his daughter.
And he's like, I'm walking with you.
Just keep walking.
Oh, your oxygen doesn't work.
I'll give you mine.
Like, cool.
I don't care.
Who are you?
Yeah.
More people need to die in this.
Definitely.
Also, like, you're only a few steps behind.
Split it with her.
Like, you take a breath, then hold you breath.
Then I'll take a breath.
And then hold me.
my brother, then you take...
Let's move our legs a little bit here, folks.
Yep. It's so stupid.
Well, that, I mean, then you wouldn't be able...
He's really dying to make sure
that Harper and the wife
can get back together at the end and that the family
can be reunited. That's really...
Yes, the sacrifice himself. I mean,
I totally agree with you, dude, but the movie
sort of flubs on that
because it ends before there can be any
kind of like reconnection. He's actually
like, oh yeah,
geez, I'm sorry about your dead husband.
And like, like, yeah, the door is open, sure, but the movie doesn't have them embrace or anything like that.
No, they don't.
And what they do is, again, we're good.
Wait, I mean, well, we're in the middle of the moonfall.
The moonfall is happening.
But they have this last seed with Halliberry and him where they're like, he's just like looks there.
He's like, we're good partners, right?
What do you have to fucking prove that?
It's been disaster after disaster, ruined each other's lives, it seems like.
why is why are you good partners
it's just I think just to be like
oh they can't have a romantic thing
yes they can't get each other for whatever reason
don't do that yeah it would be fine if they
they make out at the end of this movie you know
that'd be something well I thought that's what was
going to happen it's like you're divorced
she's fucking divorced
yeah why not so at the end
of this movie such as it is
by the way we should say like
while the while
Hallie
well Hallie Barry Patrick Wilson
and houseman are all inside the fucking
moon megastructure.
This big, dumb AI is swarming and slamming on the door like a luny tune literal
beastworm.
You might as well turn it to an arrow, you know what I mean?
Or like turn it into a finger to lure someone out.
You know what I mean?
Totally.
And you can just hear like the old-timey loony tune music like the bo-p-da-pap-pah-bub-to-boom.
Boom.
Hey, get out of there.
And it's just like turning into a huge fist.
It's so cartoonish.
It's so stupid.
So, but meanwhile, Patrick Wilson now has all the moon knowledge he got from his son.
Moon knowledge.
And the moon has fixed their spaceship and souped it up in some way.
There is a line from Casey at one point.
I was like, you have all the, you're the Kita the moon knowledge.
It's like, you have to survive.
You know all about the moon.
And I'm like, come on.
I mean, like, you're basically saying that he's going to spend the rest of his life
trying to convince people
about this fucking nonsense. They would hang
him. No one would believe he's nude for a second.
Why are we even talking about the rest
of your life? It's over. Yes, it's true.
Everybody, it's over. I mean,
life as we know over, over. By the
time, this time, like, the moon just looks
like the death star now because all the crust
fell off and hit the
earth and it's like, what was that
to begin with? Did those
people, the ancient aliens construct
styrofoam? Or
was it like asteroids hitting it throughout the year?
No, I think when they're making it
I think it's like
Like a shield
Sort of like
We did that TOS episode
On the Nexus a while back
Where it was a planet
A Dyson sphere thing yeah
Yeah inside or was it a TNJ
It was one of the
Do you think it's one of the
Do you think the moon actually
In this universe is not unlike
That rock you buy outside
To put outside your house
With your keys at it
Like you know
It's plastic
Oh yeah definitely
But in this case
In Moon Falls case
It's the dog turd version
but then like all it turns
there's like this big spaceship
there's laser turrets
and I'm like this movie needs to end
it's this movie needs to end
there's honest to goodness
battle stations inside the moon
yeah and the movie doesn't explore that
at all see now if you got Michael Panion
up on the moon he can walk around and be like whoa
they got the terriaki leather seats up here too
I mean you need some fucking
gleeplops to be
walking around. Maybe it's like
some robots or something. One robot
that's controlling the moon. And maybe it's played by somebody, I would
hope. If it's an android, oh, dude, it's a fucking Android that looks like Donald
Sutherland. There you go. Get it at Donald Sutherland. And Tommy the Jones is
ordering around him and a David Thule's robot to shoot
all of the intruders. Thank you. That's a movie.
Now we're making it be something. Then we might have a face
to a villain. That might be something. I can't believe this whole time.
like they go into this big thing
there's nobody home this fucking thing's chasing him
but there's nobody really chasing it like
it's just this for a movie
like supposed to be like as big as this
like the moon falling to earth there's so little
that's actually going on
I'm never going to be afraid of an AI
I'm sorry I except for Skynet
because it was well directed well written
or whatever yes but even still
because those robots look like skeletons they had a real
menacing fucking look yes
well because the
the weird thing about this movie is that
the problem isn't
really the moon fall
the AI is the bad thing
like the moonfall is just like
a victim of the AI thing
so the AI thing is the thing that is really
at the problem
don't you blame the moon it was the AI
the whole time
that's exactly the point it's just like it's so
like if the moon is falling into Earth
it should be about the moon
that should be it
well I think it's just
because, like, they are trying, you know, clearly as I was, I was, you know, fooled by it just as much as
anybody. Like, they wanted to keep all of this stuff a surprise. Yes. Oh. But when, when Patrick Wilson
gets, like, sprayed by the moon and he has that seizure and he talks to his son who, it seems like
he's dead, but he's not. It's just the, right. He then comes out of it. He's just like, we, wait,
wait a second. We must save the moon. So the moon is our best fucking friend. And it's just so,
funny to go from fuck the moon for so long
to suddenly in the last 20, 15
minutes to be like, we are saving
this moon.
A last minute moon hero turn is what you're
talking about. Yeah, I don't like, I don't care for it either.
I don't like it. Keep the moon a bad guy.
But then
because
Roland Emmerich had Armageddon
on when he was watching this, when he was writing
this, they, you know, it's like
Patrick Wilson's like, I'm going to stay behind
because it needs some sort of biological thing
to draw it in and I'm going to blow up and die
and that's just because the moon told me to do it
I got to do it. Listen, the moon told me I got to
it's got to be me and I'm the hero.
It's the fucking funny thing. The moon told me that I'm the
perfect candidate for this because
when it asked me if I would sacrifice my own
life for my son would I do it and I said yes
and so the moon is just like okay cool
we just wanted to make sure you would definitely
go through with that.
So just imagine that the moon
is kind of like your son in this case
if you think about it in a way
But like it's just the fact that he's like
Of course it's just he's the big hero
It's Harper, he's the big hero
And I would be so fucking furious
But I'm the hero and I've made peace
The fact I'm dying here
And this fat turd
Runs into the back
And fucking seals himself in the bomb chamber
It takes my fucking steal
I would like be like
I would rip that thing open
be like, no, you're dying now.
No, because, and also, like, I don't want to go back to what, to eating, I don't know,
fucking dirt for the next four years before I just eventually die of malnourishment?
There's nothing on that earth.
Listening to Starbucks compilation CDs while I work on my car.
Like, like, really?
That's what you want to do with your life.
I thought you meant Starbucks from Battlestar for a second because some of these effects,
that's the level it is, which I love that show.
Yeah, that's true.
But that's the level it is.
but that was a show on a small TV
TV gets away with it
But yeah he's like
Oh I'm gonna be the hero
If you don't mind Mr. Harper
You've got to go back to your children
And I'm just a sad old lonely fucker would it get
As my mama used to say
It's better to beg for forgiveness
Than do whatever
Ask permission
Yeah dude
And then he's like
They are trying to give you
All of these lines
That slobs like me
If I saw it in the theater
maybe it would have got a little bit of emotion, but he's like,
check in on me, mom. Tell her that a son
wasn't a failure. Yeah.
She's got Alzheimer's kid, so she doesn't know what the fuck I just said.
Oh, actually, she got sucked up into the moon. She's right there, actually. See that
wheelchair? That was where your mother was.
Oh, the moon already turned her to spaghetti. Sorry.
Your new best budd the moon already sucked her up again.
You fucking shoot around.
Bolli-A's sauce.
your mom had split pea soup with rat poison in about an hour after she found out about the moon wobble
you're the key to our moon's knowledge that's right brian
yes you need to go and preach moon to people we need more moonies and moon nights yes get married in
mass you get the fuck out of there pudgy that's my fucking bomb to hug no but he goes and he yeah
Here's my question, though, about all this.
Like, I know, you know, this guy always wanted to be an astronaut,
love space, all that stuff.
But he works at Burger King.
Like, you're telling me this guy knows all the little flips to switch and whatnot.
He's just that good.
There's switches to flips rather, you know what I mean?
He read the internet.
He could do anything.
Just like you, you could die in space, listen.
all of you could put
off, you could all arm and take
off a bomb in space. Of course, you just have to
listen to, too, is like, you are,
everyone listening to this will die in space
because Earth, remember,
it's in space.
The more you know. That's true, dude.
It's true, yeah. The more you know, definitely, Chris.
Yes, there you go. Mortality.
He gets,
so he gets swallowed by this fucking thing
and then like,
like an AI head starts
like building inside the spaceship. So he has
something to look at when he says,
you underestimated us.
And then
lets this EMP go.
For Elon, retweet me.
What's that?
Is there no consequences whatsoever
and I'm alive again as
part of the AI?
Dude, this is the reason
why I want it. So like they go back.
They zip down.
They just make it or whatever.
It's actually kind of a cool thing
that the way that they're able to
survive because like the shuttle
gets fucking destroyed. They're only in the little
capsule. And the way that they're able
to really scoot to safety kind of
easily is because the moon
is like in the earth's
atmosphere. Like so
they're just basically to be able
to like push themselves towards
earth and then she immediately
opens the parachutes and they land like
totally fucking. That was hilarious. Thank you for
pointing that out Andrew because I was watching
it and I was like oh my God. Oh right.
they're basically on Earth already.
It's fine. Yeah.
Well, I thought they were going to have to do like a base jump from the moon onto
Earth. Like I thought they were going to get really crazy.
Chris, we'd have to hire a stunt performer for that.
Oh yeah. I guess that's no good. Yeah, you can't just put someone in front of a TV and have
that happen. No, a little cartoon doing it wouldn't be the same.
Somewhere, somehow, there is an American government that has helicopter pilots that's
looking for these people. Of course.
Like, what are you talking about?
Everyone is dead.
All the birds are dead.
No, no, yeah, you're right.
The birds are fucking dead. Like, everything is dead.
It's all dead. Everything that was flying is that.
All those airplanes that were still in the air for some reason have all crashed to the ground.
That's true.
Like, the next, like, spring and shit, there's not going to be, like, bees or anything left to, like, make the...
Nope.
Anything happen.
Wouldn't those airplane people actually be totally fun?
Because they have, like, a fake air supply up there.
So...
Well, the thing is going to be ripped up.
the part, isn't it? Well, I guess if something fell
on. They would have got bumped by the moon, dude.
But guess what? The moon would have just bumped them. The moon is
slowly going back to where it belongs.
Oh, thank God. Oh, yeah. Rascal. Come on.
Get back up there.
Come on. Moon. You troublemaker. That's
what you are. Wow. A troublemaker.
Ridiculous.
I tried to lash on the moon and bring it down for you, but I killed
thousands and thousands of people.
Oh, Mary. The AI got
me.
I'm part of the moon now.
Oh, Mary, my consciousness is inside the AI.
That would be something.
It knows all my deepest, darkest secrets.
I was about how Mr. Gower used to hit my ears.
I was going to stay up there, Mary, but then Spencer Tracy beat me to it.
Spencer Tracy's flicking the moon.
Yeah, the AI knows what I did old Mr. Gower there, Mary.
Now the AI is going to find his body.
I wish I didn't put a lasso around the moon.
Now I know all these dark secrets.
Our bank's going to be out of business.
The AI's going to take care of all the money now.
It seems hard to care about Bedford Falls when I know about the ancient aliens.
Oh, do me a favor.
Check into my mom.
Shaller than her son wasn't a failure.
I can't lie to her.
I'm sorry.
Oh, sure.
Well, your money's not here.
It's in the moon.
The old savings.
alone.
Merry Christmas
falling moon.
Merry Christmas, Michael Pedia, Lexus.
Merry Christmas, Charlotte Gainsburg.
Merry Christmas, Kiefer, Sutherland.
Merry Christmas, Kirsten Dunds.
Oh, whatever.
This helicopter.
Merry Christmas, Alexander and Stellant Scars.
Flies them back to their families and the Chrysler building is there.
And it's like, well, I guess we got a lot of work to do on this new society, which sounds pretty terrible.
I would have the right idea, dude.
Wasn't the Chrysler building in New York?
As there's like corpses falling out of it.
Exactly.
L.O.L. dude.
Yeah, real, real funny.
The reason I wanted to do this movie so badly, because I think this scene is the, is right now in the, in the new, you know, you want to tell me about the, you know, the first 100 years of cinema.
But in this new 100 years of cinema, this is the best sequel teaser that'll never happen.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I think this is top.
I think this is top dog.
I think it is.
It's, he wakes up.
He's reconstituted.
His mother and his cat are there.
And they're like, we, you are now part of the moon.
Welcome. Welcome to the moon. You're part of it.
Scan the consciousness of you
so you can live forever. Transcendant style as part of the
moon. And we've got a lot
of work to do. Let's get started.
And he goes, started on
what? Not end credits.
He's just making the tides happen
forever. Yeah. That might as well be the end
of like the Florida project. Like what are you talking about?
We're not coming back here. What are you talking about?
We're getting in the moon and we're
breaking into Disney World.
It would be great if
actually you just saw him
and it was him
and like a big like
not unlike Honey and I Shrunk
the kids it's him swimming around a bunch of
Bree like it was old cheese
I can't believe it.
Like Scrooge McDuck
Exactly
I mean because like that's literally
any like you could just slap that on any
movie now if that if that if you're going to do it
to this movie that made no money
fucking you throw it on anywhere you like
now. Oh, dude, let's get started. Let's get started, Chris. That should have been the last
line to crimes of the future. I love that Donald Sutherland gets the fucking hammer in this
movie with less than two minutes of screen time. That's incredible. And also, it's incredible,
because I did, I just, I wasn't carefully looking at them or anything, but I just was
picked up the laptop when the credits started rolling and I just let the credits go. And there is a
moment where it looks like they are about
like the credit, the people who
made the credit role were like
instructed, okay, leave
space for a stinger scene to happen.
And then we don't
know yet whether or not we're going to do a stinger scene
because there's part of the credits
where like they get done with it. The music
stops at a very dramatic kind of
like brow sort of thing.
There's no image on
the screen, no text, no drawings
or anything like that. And I was like, oh
man, here comes a stinger scene, especially
with that fucking sequel set up.
And then the rest of the credits
just start going.
So I think like they thought
maybe we would have a stinger scene
and then just didn't bother
and there's just this huge gap
in the credits left of the year.
That's amazing.
Michael Pena's left in the snow
and this shambling character
comes up fully like
full of like all kinds of shit on him
that you can't really tell who it is.
And then he just lips up his flaps
and gives him like air and he's like,
thank you.
Thank you.
How can I ever thank you?
He turns out.
off. It's Donald Sutherland.
Oh, yeah. He actually survived the
shot. And he says, the shot to the face. Let me
ask you something, son. Have you heard of Mars?
End of movie. Because it could
also fall. Mars can also fall, you know.
Yeah, I mean, you can have a whole wobble verse here.
Absolutely. Wobble verse.
Venus fall. I can't wait.
Yeah, totally. I mean, Neptune falls. That sounds like a small
quaint town center. Right. That sounds
kind of nice. Yeah, that would be nice. Oh, man. I mean, so that's
Moonfall, ladies and gentlemen, I will go around the horn here. Would anybody
recommend this 2022 disaster, Steve Zanak? I kind of would
it's a light recommend to me. It's so bad. It's just worth watching once. It's
so bizarre. The effects are terrible. There is no, not even effects, but
again, like, he did not ever conceptualize what a Moonfall looked like.
And you, the viewer, never figure it out. Yeah, we're just going to wing it.
so for all of that
I just think it's such an ill-conceived
bonkers
cheesy shitty B-movie
that it's worth watching once
that's me
totally Chris Cabin
nope too long
I also am a little tired of us
trying to make
Game of Thrones
actors into real actors
well Chris he's here because
Josh Gad dropped out at the last second
Of course
I will say okay you know what
to this guy's crazy
minute, I would prefer him to Josh Gat.
Josh Gadd would
absolutely ruin this movie. Like, any
little thing I enjoy about it would be completely
gone if GAD was here. There'd be so many
gags of him screaming.
No, I can't do with that. No. And like,
yeah, like, I like Patrick Wilson. I like
the cast enough, but like
just not enough. It's bad.
Eric Sisko. Yeah, I
think John Bradley is good
on Game of Thrones. I don't think it's
really, he's not good here. I do
like the cast in general, but nothing
coalesces, nothing really happens
here. Roland Emmerich passed
his prime unfortunately
I wish I could recommend it but like Chris says
too long, two hours and ten
minutes for this piece of shit. Are you kidding?
It should be an hour and 40 minutes.
That's totally fair. Absolutely.
Yeah, no, I'm not
really disagreeing with anybody
here
but I will say
it's a light recommend. It's kind of
a seeing as believing. It's kind of the
most recent like
wow that was dumb
you know like the credits started and I was like
holy shit that was stupid
so it sort of for me
at least was sliding into that
you know territory of like a
so bad it's good kind of a situation
I will say the guy who plays the kid
it's a thankless role
this actor Charlie Plummer
who I think is actually pretty good
and he's in a couple of good movies
like he's in that all the money in the world
the Ridley Scott movie.
Spontaneous,
weird horror movie worth seeing.
Yeah, lean on Pete,
a devastatingly sad movie,
but he's very good in it.
So, like, yeah,
he doesn't get a lot of play here
and all the shit
that they have him say
is actually pretty stupid.
His role is thankless and stupid.
As is fucking Kelly U, all of that.
Get the fucking people out of there.
That's my thing.
Give me the fucking military people,
the science people,
and then leave it at that.
Gleep, glops, if you please.
You know what?
A rival understood that. Why can't you?
Yeah. Oh, man, yeah. And if a rival's doing better than you, you got to fucking do better.
So that is Moonfall, directed by Roland Emmerich, one of the worst of last year's films.
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Do we have that settled at the time of recording? I think we do, yeah.
it is Top Gun Maverick
which at this time of the recording I have not
seen yet but I'll take your word for it
the one person the one person
in America God damn it's
I will see it very exciting Steve they're re-releasing it in
theaters I think it might be worth
checking it out on the big screen I think I will
Steve you saw
Moonfall in theaters
you made sure to get the big screen experience
with that one but then with Top Gun
Maverick you're going to sit your ass on the couch
on like what
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for this one. You know why Chris? You know why Chris? Like you could
just say oh yeah it's a bad movie podcast. I live this shit.
Okay. I live
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So it's a good, it's a good long time of hanging out with us watching.
We also did the first movie as well.
And if you unlock, you know, if you sign up for our Patreon, you unlock, you know,
everything of that, that level through the past.
So you get multiple commentaries, multiple gleeplessries, multiple nexus.
And the good thing is, man, because the moon's falling and time is speeding up,
you'll be able to get into the past faster and get those episodes.
Definitely.
I think it's the idea there.
Now, we are, of course, just getting started here on the main feed with some of the worst of last year's offerings.
And like we said, boy, whatever the opposite of slim pickens is, embarrassment of riches.
So Steve Saneck, what is going on the main feed here next week?
The moon is still fallen, but it's full of dinosaurs, it seems.
It is Jurassic Park Fall.
Dominion.
Was it Dominion?
It was Dominion.
Jurassic World
Dominion.
Yes.
Dumb Minion.
It's a movie that I
100%
did not see in theaters
but did the $20
rental at home.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Yeah. So I'm like a double
time loser. Like I paid
way more than I should have and I
didn't leave the house.
So yeah, we're going to be talking about some
really bad CGI dinosaurs next
week. Some Chris Pratt fucking
dino training and whatnot. It is a
really... Oh, and the bugs. Oh, we can't
forget the bugs. Of course the bugs. Remember the bugs.
It is such a stupid movie.
All right. Until next week with
Jurassic World colon Dominion.
I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Siddak.
Eric Siska. Chris Gavin.
Take it easy.
That was a hate gum podcast.