We Hate Movies - S13 Ep655: Halloween Ends

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

On this episode, the guys go back to Haddonfield one more time to chat about the conclusion of David Gordon Green’s (overly?) ambitious horror trilogy, Halloween Ends! Should they have front-loaded the film with Michael and Laurie and gotten them out of the way first, instead of leaving it for last? How fabulous do the kills continue to be in these more recent films? And yikes, Cory getting bullied by the marching band kids is pretty hilarious! PLUS: Heed this film’s warning and never, ever turn off a screening of John Carpenter’s The Thing mid-way through! Halloween Ends stars Jamie Lee Curtis, Andi Matichak, Rohan Campbell, Will Patton, Michael Barbieri, Destiny Mone, Joey Harris, Marteen, Michele Dawson, Keraun Harris, Kyle Richards, Jaxon Goldberg, and James Jude Courtney as The Shape; directed by David Gordon Green. Click here to snag tickets to catch the gang LIVE in the virtual space THIS THURSDAY, January 26 as they chat about the stunningly bad Thor: Love and Thunder! Ticket bundles available for the exclusive after-party Q&A as well! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new SW Crispy Critters, MINGO!, WHAT IF Donna? & Mortal Kombat designs! Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

this week on the program, fix up your mom's boyfriend's motorcycle and try to kill your lady friend's grandma because on this episode, we're talking Halloween ends. I'm Andrew Corey. Stephen Sadek. Eric Siska ends. Corey. And we hate movies. Hello, Hello, everyone, welcome to we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. This is going to be a big in this week.

We are here talking about... Cory. Let's say, stop it. You shut the fuck up for two seconds. Corey. I actually... Halloween ads. The movie is called Halloween next. Now that we're all talking, we don't have to abide by the introductions.

The Senate parliamentarian allows Andrew to speak first. Yes. And then we're allowed to talk. Well, you know, we've got to do that. I'm not saying you guys can't talk. I'm just saying, don't interrupt the intro. It's pretty rude. After 15 votes, we got Andrew back in to do the introduction.

Kevin McCarthy is going to let us know how to do this, I guess. Chris, I think it's okay to like a movie. In fact, I actually like this movie. Sure. I just want to let people know it's going to be fair and balance. Absolutely, Corey.

I actually, I think Corey is good. I actually like the actor playing Quay. I like the, I like not going back to Michael Myers just versus Lori Strode, even though we fucking get there again. Well, yeah. I mean, it's the chicken shit.

If we did, if we committed to Corey. This is my second time through this movie the first time I rated a two stars in the letter box. This time I rated it two and a half. So I moved I inched a little bit more because of the A, the fact that this is the end of a trilogy and it really

wants to be and it does that with this oh but we're subverting expectations thing at the same time which you can't you can't do both I feel like and I feel like this movie tries to have its cake and needs too. I mean that's I appreciate the ambition is probably the only thing I really appreciate

about this movie. Also, Andy Mattochek, she's very good in this, I thought. Alice in the heroine of the film. You cannot have this kind of ambition and not follow through. You can't do it. That's the whole point of having those ambitions. So where is the no follow through? Because I should say, by the way, first of all, I don't know what the deal is. But me, third times a charm. Like, I just watched it again today. And, you know, at first it's constrictive. But after a while, it becomes a. part of you. I think for me personally, and I'm not saying

this to what you're about to say, Chris, or whatever. For me, I realized watching it today that I didn't like it, especially the first time, because it wasn't what I thought it was going to be. And so I was really bumming that they didn't go the direction I wanted it to, which I realized like I probably shouldn't have done that. And this time through, I was kind of like, okay. Like, Corey played for me better. Yeah. The kills are still outstanding. I don't think. it entirely hits the landing. Yes. But I don't know. I came around to it a little more this time.

I cannot abide by you building and taking such a bold step to center all of this on Corey and really building the story around Corey and the turning of him into a killer. And then, but I need by Michael Myers. I'm sorry. Just give it to me right in the arm. Please. I just fucking need it. that that's the problem is the ending and the continuation of that but i think it's i think i love the amount of time this movie spends like sitting in haddonfield really you get a real vibe for the place you get and i think exploring it through corey is is pretty good and i like i like the turn of him becoming a killer because haddenfield killed him sure it's not because he killed that kid it's because of town gossip and the the corrosive way

that works. Small town America, man. There's no difference between Haddonfield, Illinois, and whatever the fuck town Chris was with the cranks takes. And they push you around so much, Chris, that eventually you wear it as a badge of honor and you start killing people. I've been through this. Yes, you've been there. I understand. You have quite the

body count, Eric Siska. I mean, I'm just going to hit play real quick. Coming soon. Yeah, that's right. thinking about subverting expectations. It's the grand return of the VHS trailer game. Happy New Year, everybody. I made three resolutions this year.

I mean, one, I'm going to start going to the gym war. Two, I'm going to stop drunk texting Andrew because it doesn't go anywhere good. Three, we're making more VHS trailer games. All lies. I fell off it at the end of last year. It is back now. So can I ask you where you got the VHS tape for Halloween ends? Yeah, it's a special one.

David Gordon Green pressed it for me. Of course. Actually, this is a jumbo, a jumbo sized episode to kind of catch up with some points here. And to do so, we're, I took from Halloween, the curse of Michael Myers from 1995, and Halloween H2O from 1998. Can I just say, first of all, that's a real bummer to hear your list of resolutions because one of my resolutions was to finally respond to those drug tests. Dude, I keep asking you up and I know you are.

Dude, you know you up. I see you tweeting. I mean, you can only respond to what's you wearing so many times. Exactly. Get told after a while. This is the VHS trailer game. It is a fun game wherein I throw out some clues here. These guys try and guess it.

And when they do, if they try, if they guess incorrectly, they're out of the round. The score pattern is 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Well, you'll figure it out. You know this. And the winner at the end, not only gets into the, The slush fund for the cameos, the We Hate Movie Slush Fund for a cameo of their choice. This round coming in September, the winner of this game will be able to redo an episode from the game from the early archives. Remember that?

I've totally neglected this game, but again, new year, new Steve. Congratulations to Chris, the eventual winner. We don't know that. We don't know, you're welcome. You're very sweet. You know what? I want to become like the quarry to you. you're Michael Myers and I'm going to try to learn

this game of yours. I'm weirdly going to let you live even though I destroy everything. Well, because you recognize the deep evil in my eyes. Sure. Absolutely. It's an infection. Can I say that, by the way, I kind of like a little bit of that because it gave me

a little bit of a maniac cop two vibe. No, but I like Andrew's idea. Like we get Kate Winslet, Lawrence Fishburne, Brian Kranston are all like trying to triangulate. Currently, the score is. Are we playing? I thought we're just talking about the movie. No, we're not.

Chris has 13 points. Andrew is 10 points. And Eric is in third place with five points. It's still early days because we only did this twice. But now we should say also that there is embedded in our Saw 4 Toronto show. That's right. Some points that are not yet in the board. You all are going to have to wait until we release that live episode later this year.

That's exciting news. And also just a quick one for this one specifically. I'm going to ask for you're going to need to be good with the titles insofar as if it's a if it's a movie with a subtitle, I'm going to need that whole subtitle. And if it's a movie that you think you know

the title of but you're missing a word because one of them is that difficult. I'm going to need the whole thing. And if you get it wrong, the next person could buzz in and steal it from you. So there we go. So one of these is going to be the second and a connoisse movie. Yes.

All right, here we go. Or Owls of Gohul. All this is from Halloween, the curse of Michael Myers, 1995. Okay. Round one. Sure. Game Master's Clue.

Oh, I missed it. A romantic drama set in the TV news world that paired an aging star with someone significantly younger. Chris Cabin. Up close and personal. It is up close and personal for five big points. There it is. That was the Celine Dion song. That's the end of the clue would have been like,

You made me shit when I want to piss. You made me puke when I want to burp. You made me come when I want to fart. Oh, wow. Man, can you imagine you think you're farting and then all of a sudden you're just orgasming everywhere? That would be surprising. You know, that pep up some farting. I'd be actually happy to fart a little bit.

Some pep farts. Although, you know, like sometimes when you fart and then you're like, oh, is that a shart? But now you're going to have a fucking wet front too. Well, yeah, dude, wet everywhere. It's always, it's a danger really down there. Round two. There we go. Game Masters Kalu.

A mega spoof of a dramatic subgenre with a mouthful of a title starring two up-and-coming actors from a comedy dynasty. Andrew Jupin. Here it is. Don't be a menace to South Central while drinking your juice in the hood. Exactly correct for five huge points. Oh, yeah. That's a big one.

Oh, yeah. That's a good one. I watched that movie like two dozen times. I love that movie. I like just watching this game. You guys are doing great. I'm a spectator this year. The trivia there, which I wouldn't get to, 27 drafts of the scripts were...

27, you said? 27 drafts of the script were written before the shooting began. Marlon Wayans claimed that his brother, Keenan Ivory Wayans, made him and his brother rewriting over and over to the point of being driven to tears. Wow. Not good enough fuck you, Marlon. Not good enough fuck you, Sean. And that's still all they came up with her.

Keenan Patty Chayefsky, Ivory Wands. Exactly. Yeah, the writer-director of a low-down dirty shame. it's not good enough. So here we go. Round three. A sweater-clad, indie-ish romantic dramedy about a bunch of white people looking for love, which includes a pretty inappropriate subplot featuring a young woman that Moby would go on to not date. A sweater-clad indie-ish romantic dramedy, but a bunch of white people looking for love, which includes a pretty inappropriate subplot featuring a young woman that Moby would go on not to date.

Chris Gavin. beautiful girls. It is beautiful girls for five points. I was going to say Leon the professional. That is when Timothy Hutton is like, oh, that she's going to be beautiful one day. Just got to wait. Just got to wait it out, brother. What is the movie? I have not seen this movie and I have not seen a person. It's just like a local. It's like locals, like a movie, like kind of like a Trees lounge kind of a thing. Yeah, just like they hang out at places, like dinerish even. So the problem is whenever I search for beautiful girls, I get sidetracked. All right. We're picking it up from H2O 1998, round four. Here it comes.

Game Masters Clue. A paranoid action thriller by a stylish director that boasts an incredibly deep cast that includes the star of a gold standard of 70s paranoia thrillers in a very similar role. Kind of a spiritual sequel kind of a deal. Eric Siska. Enemy of the state. Enemy of the state's a big one for Eric Siska.

Look at that. Yes. I didn't remember that. being a stacked cast movie that's what's the movie yeah everybody's in that Jason Lee's in it all right Jason John Boy

that's what he meant Barry Pepper Jack Black Seth Green yeah I didn't remember that yeah they're the tech team yes so what's his face is also

farting around we're talking about the Gene Hackman Will Smith movie yes it's just a deep as shit cast lots of people in it I had no idea by the way it's absolutely stay tuned I love that movie

round five Game Masters Kalu. This continued this comedic actor's 90s hot streak with a sports comedy set in the Big Easy which allowed him to use what was here Chris Cabin? The Waterboy. The Water

Boy for five big points. I just want to mention that I knew that as well. Eric was right behind. Right behind. I know. Yes. Sorry, Eric. Hey, stop making fun of me. You know, that that movie is when I

turned on sand sandblowers. Yes. kind of was it. Until punched drunk, I think. Yeah. It was the most hibbitty-dibity of the ball. He was the dibbiest of them all. The hippie-est, dibbidious movie. That fucking voice, he loves that voice.

Okay, round six. The final one, we can finally talk about Corey. Game Master's Clue. The first of two direct-to-video sequels of a much beloved in this room and elsewhere, horror action mashup. This one also features career criminals getting more. than they bargained for south of the border. Oh, boy.

From Dust till Dawn 2. Come on. You got to do it or else someone's going to steal it. This is the tough one. Oh, fuck my face. Is it the hangman's daughter? Incorrect. Part 3.

That is part 3. From Dust till Dawn 2, colon. Come on, Eric. Never back down. No. I don't know. I don't know.

Anybody got this. No way. Oh, wow. Okay. So, you know, I'm going to give Andrew three points, forgetting from Duttle Dung. But it is, and forgetting the hangman's daughter,

which was going to be a bonus question, by the way. So I'll give you that. All right. Texas blood money was what we're looking for. Robert Patrick was looking for that Texas blood money. Yeah, I'm here at the titty twister looking for any Texas blood money I contract. I can only be from Texas. I won't take any of the Georgia blood money.

It's bullshit. Have you seen this blood money? I mean, so back to what Eric was saying about. One thing I think all of the Gordon Green movies do very well is get that tone of conversational weirdness that like off brand horror really got well. Like just weird conversations happening between people. This, it does that stuff well. My problem is that like that's a choice. harm of it, I guess. But in this

movie, nothing else really makes sense to me. Like, Laurie Strode makes no sense to me at this point as a character whatsoever. I kind of hate that bookend of her writing this memoir, like she's Richard Dreyfus and stand by me. It will have to be the worst book ever

if it's ever published. It's not. It better not be, but if it was. It's self-published on Amazon. Absolutely. Because it is horrible. I mean, listening to her, I thought it was a podcast at first, like the Haddon Cast? Oh, dude, if she started Haddon Cast, like, no, thank you. I really, because that's, it starts with a voiceover of her doing all of the stuff.

And I was like, oh, please don't go this modern. I swear to God, please. Well, the weird thing is like, well, we are, first of all, we should say, I'm sorry, but we already had podcasting in the first movie. That's true. Way back then, dude, when I saw that first movie, I was like, this is going to derail the whole thing, isn't it? And they thankfully were briskly murdered.

that movie was, I think that, that I already watched prior to this. And that movie is fucking great. Primo. Full on fucking great. I really do like the 2018 one. I think Halloween kills. I think the start is fucking fantastic. I love the fire department being killed. There's your thin red line. Hadd Fields bravest. Yeah. Not brave enough from Michael Myers. And then it kind of shits the bed a bit. And then I do kind of like this movie. not as much as I liked 2018, but...

The thing is, like, I think that Halloween, both that and Halloween kills, they look great, and this movie doesn't. I don't know, it's, the camera felt cheap to me. Really? It's just very streaming, like, cheap. Like, it's very green for no good reason. There's a lot, I just, I feel like the color correction's off.

I don't, I don't know. The first one, like, especially all those shots of, like, Michael Myers in the yard and all that shit, you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of cool cinematography. And here, there's some nice stuff. because you know Gordon Green's a good director but it just it doesn't hold

a candle to that first one and even kind of that second one especially with that fucking fire department the second one was so frenzied looking like that's kind of the there's I mean I guess this is probably on purpose but the second two of these there's much more frenzy to it like it's not so much state cuts like here's a shot

of like because I mean you're right I think that it makes total sense because of that second movie is the direct continuation of where we left of 18, which was madness everywhere, then it has to be like that. And that's why I think

this one being like pokey and not any of that. I mean, this movie plays more like a David Gordon Green, like early 2000s movie, like indie ish kind of all the real girls

kind of thing. And I think, you know, probably a lot of that is because of like the Allison and Corey relationship. But like that's what I found really interesting this time is just going through and being like, man, this is a DGG movie that he would make with like Zoe Des Chanel and that dude who got fired

after the first season of Parks and Rec. Paul, whatever. Schneider, I believe. Paul Schneider. You had five big points for Steven Santa for Paul Schneider. Yeah. Put it on the board. I see what you're saying,

Andrew, and I think that's, you're right on. And I think that's a good thing because it's like, what more could you do with Michael Myers after those first two movies? it would just be, it would feel more of the exact same. If it kept going. So it's like, from that night, that's exhaust.

Yeah, you take, you take that Blum money, Texas Blum money. Uh-huh. And you make your own fucking weird little, yeah, birth of a murderer movie and you just sandwich it in to this, you know,

franchise. That's what I think is the bummer of it, because a buddy of mine likes this movie even more than I do as well. And he was like, oh, did you notice that the credits are light blue, not unlike Halloween season of the witch, right?

That's what the same is trying to find. Yes, that's what this movie's trying to get at. It's like a season of the witch. But season of the witch happens after Halloween 2 is over. Michael Myers, you know, we all know he's coming back. He is dead at the end of Halloween 2. Carpenter was done with it. It was very clear we were going in a brand new direction.

Here, it's just we're kind of just figure. Well, he's still, I mean, the end of that movie, Halloween kills ends on a cliffhanger. It ends with holy shit. after all this shit between Michael and Lori now he just killed her daughter and you know what it did? It made Lori fucking thrilled she's she is pleased his punch

that Judy Greer is dead in this movie that's the thing I kind of like that was my first fucking hit against this movie is like I don't think we really got to process Judy Greer dying at all at all like no I completely agree and four year time jump so maybe but like celebrate

good times My daughter's dad. Make a pumpkin pie and burning it. There's something to be said. I'm not trying to completely defend it. But there's something to be said about Jamie Lee Curtis's character like Lori Strode. Sure. Being like I'm no longer hiding.

You know? Yeah. It's for all her efforts, that still happened. Sure. Yeah. So like maybe try something else. Yeah, I'm not going back into my fucking weirdo murder house, you know. But I just.

Old lady in the compound didn't work out. Yeah. I just think. you're going to make a movie like this where you're really counting on people's emotions being core to it, not confronting the fucking death of Judy Greer in any real way. It's a cop

out. It's not a fucking like, well, we don't have to do that. It's a cop out. You don't want to deal with the scene, so you didn't do it. Because season of which the book was closed and here's a new book. This was like we were left with, holy shit, now he killed her daughter. What's going to happen? Would you guys prefer if they like frontloaded this movie and got Michael

out of the way and Lori out of the way? And then people are like, hey, this 30 minutes and that's all done. And now this. Actually, would that be better? It is kind of the tipping of the soda cam machine effect to me. Like, I'm like, if you're going to do it, just do it. Stop

with this like, eh, maybe he's here. No, he's definitely here. But he's not really important. But okay, maybe he is a little important. A lot of this is like, it's the fault of kills. Now, if kills had actually been more of a movie, like an actual movie, we could have had maybe the conclusion in that.

Would have been great. But I think in general, it just was not exactly a smart move to try to make such an arc like this. I think that kind of sucks out what I like about Halloween. And like, it's not like we don't follow

Laurie Strode anyway. We have been following Laurie Strode anyway. It's just that you have, depends on so, connecting so much tissue that I just don't think is going to work when you make this kind of ambitious movie like this. We start with, which I think is the best part of the movie, this opening sequence,

I love it. I love it. It's cold open. It's a, it's a perfect little, like 15 minute short film. Yes. In the Halloween world. You know what I mean? Like, what a fucking, a totally nicely done little story like that. It's just so good. And even the first time around, I was like, this is fucking awesome. Yeah. Just like up. It builds tension. You know, like when the kid is is hiding throughout the house. You're really like, I was on the edge of my seat the other day and I had saw it already. You know. It's, it's, And even the thing thing is kind of a fun little nod. We're watching Carpenter's thing as opposed to Hawks, you know. I was noticing this time how hilarious is because these are like, these are like the really snooty, snooty, like Haddonfield residents. Like this house is ridiculous. I was surprised that Haddonfield got this affluent. I think these are like the same people that they were at like the doctor party. Got it.

In the earlier films. I looked at the thing. This place has at least one invisible floor. Like this stair goes up and up And you're like I saw the front of this place There's just no way Like this is like the wayside school

Like I just it's too big I have no sympathy for the big housed You know? Like this kid like whatever dude one little one less little rich kid Dude exactly exactly It's that kid's fault that Corey happens first of all I mean like this kid's fucking he fucks around and he sure does find out Oh in the biggest thud

in a movie. Corey did nothing wrong. Hashtale. Hashtag Corey. Hashtag I stand with Corey. I thought this woman was Katie Couric and she's not. This actress. I'm playing the mother.

Yes. She just looks so much like Candice Rose who I'm looking at right now. She just, yeah. I abandoned my entire brand and my entire career to be in the last Halloween movie for two scenes. And I got 15 years younger and I'm now an actress. It is kind of interesting how.

like besides her being like hi Corey thanks for coming in on such short notice both this wife character and the husband character oh man talk as if who I thought by the way was Ray Park so there you go dude oh no no no no no no no sorry oh man

he told me to fuck her and I did oh Lelandorcer a little bit of the Lelandorcer five that's five more points by the way oh there we just I'll put it out of the big word. Oh, man. You're beating me now.

Or at least we're neck and neck. They speak as if he's not there. It's kind of interesting. Like, Corey says stuff to them, and they just keep talking. They don't listen to him at all. It sets up, like, what the world in general thinks of this guy in a really interesting way. Also, nice semiotics of this marriage is in trouble because this guy is dressed up like a railway conductor and his wife is dressed as a flapper. That means, like, you know.

This is not a couple's costume. It's like, I want to be a fucking railway conductor, Melody. Well, because she doesn't want to go to this party anyway, because she's like, oh, it's Hank's Halloween work party. I could give less of his shit. He's also clearly pissed off, and this is probably why the marriage is going to end. He also seems like he thinks like she's flirting with the kid. Oh, really?

Like he kind of is just like pissed. Yeah. Immediately like, he's like, why do you care about this kid? Yeah. Like the whole attitude he has is like, oh, God, you know, he's, going to engineering school. Jesus Melissa. This is, see, this is why this movie's kind of good. There's a lot of

nuances throughout all these little interactions throughout all these various characters. And they're not usually known. He gets a good cat. Whoever cast for him is very good at getting these little rolls right. The dad has a great line where he's like, oh, who's that, Corey?

Yeah. I hope you babysit kids better than you mow lawns, motherfucker. dude. Wow. Like, why do you hate this kid? Like already, man? He hasn't even killed your kid yet. And even after he kills his kid, he sort of likes him a little. Yeah, he likes him better.

You know what? Respects him now. Yeah, honestly, Corey, if you killed my kid, I'd respect you more. All right, dude. Fucking nut up, dude. He killed my kid. I'll tell you what. Showed me.

You showed me. You know what? I was sass and Corey. He killed my kid. Now I'm like, hey, man, I'm going to shake that kid's hand. If you wanted your kid to be alive, you wouldn't live in a staircase house like this. I mean, this is just crazy. Yeah.

I mean, also like, what the fuck? So, like, yeah, it's, it's, you know, all this tension, like, and she, it's kind of cool. She's like, you know, because of the Michael Myers stuff, like, we, we know Michael Myers is around. He's been wetting the bed. He's talking to himself. You're like, oh, what's going? Is he an evil kid? Like, it just, it sets up all these little stuff that doesn't really pay off.

But it gets you into Corey's brain of like, he might be an evil kid. I don't know. Well, that's, I mean, you know. it's the same it's the same thing as Michael like what kid grew up in the same town and just you know I mean unless you ask Robert

zombie about it and then he was like abused and molested whatever's going on of that movie went through the whole gambit you know it's just like it's that same kind of like you never know you never know when that light switch is going to flick and again it's it's a bummer that the light switch flicked for Corey because

all those people got killed in the town but it's good that Corey extinguished this little Jeremy because that guy, you'd have a movie called Jeremy where both the E's or threes and that kid's running around killing people? You don't want to deal with that shit. Yeah, you'd have one insufferable

T-Mobile manager out there and you would not want to see him. I do this, the gall and audacity to start this movie with this kid flopping like this. It's so good. And the sound design and I just feel like David Gordon Green's like

no, do it again. And it's just do it again. It's just I imagine like a sound, a sound room like cigarette smoke going like, it's not right yet. No, no, no, no. I just, I need to hear the next snap, but in a floppy way. It would be like it's Tilda Swinton in that recording studio in Memorial. Just like, can I hear the thud again? No, a little more bass than that. It was wetter. It wetter in my mind. Bit of a splatter in with your thud. Do you hear the skeleton dislocate in this? Do you hear it just snap?

It sucks because Corey is... It sounds like a xylophone falling apart. Corey is kicking the door and he does say, I'm going to kill you, Jeremy, which means like I'm going to, you know, you're not going to get fucking ice cream tonight. Exactly. But that's what just when the parents come in.

And he's holding a knife because he finds it or whatever. Here's the thing with fucking Jeremy, man, and why I think, again, it is great that this light was extinguished because the swiftness with which this kid puts together this Halloween prank, holy shit. Yes.

Because Corey's like, all right, you know, we're watching the thing. It's a little too scary. Let's play, you know, round to hide and seek and then we got to go to bed. Immediately this kid's like, up yours fuck face. I'm tired of being nice to this boy, ugly babysitter. This is a cautionary.

tail. Never, ever, ever turn off the thing midway. Don't fucking do it. It doesn't matter. He was into it. It will curse you. Totally. But like so, you know, Corey goes in the other room like, fuck that little stupid, fucking poop. And he comes, you know, here's a bunch

of noise. And then all of a sudden, a lamp is down. All these lights are off. The kid has the foresight to take the knife that they were like maybe cutting some little pumpkin bread with or something there. Like, this is all in the matter of seconds, man. It's also Halloween, 2019 and Michael Myers is still around. So that is, you know, he's trapped in that attic.

Maybe he's scared of this kid being evil kid. Maybe fucking Michael's around. You never fucking know. Corey had a choice between putting Jeremy to sleep and having the conversation whether or not Keith David is infected or not. You know what I mean? That's a or fucking an aggravated manslaughter beef. And he chose the latter, dude.

Don't turn that shit off. But to Andrew's point, like the kid has clearly been planning. this like yes he's been up there's like the house is full of prank areas and like he doesn't really we're not at home alone yet no or are we what do you mean that has homelones come out right it's 2019 yeah yeah so yeah so yeah like he had he's seen all the home alone's then did you think it was like 1980 or something yeah i mean for a moment there we're talk about one that started in the 70s for crying out but yes but i like if if he had seen all those like you kind of wonder of like what's he thinking like I'm just

going to trap this whole house eventually but no it's just this kid that would be a great ending to the original home alone Kevin just doing this fucking swan dive just a thud just a crumpled pile of calister can't believe you did it Harry I thought we were just talking big to the kid

they were just going to like scare him and let him go told him mom I was going to eat his fingers see I was thinking he like prankishly locks Buzz in his room gives a big wolf to the door and off he goes. I'm going to kill you Trout Sniffer, thud. And you know what?

The McAllisters were smarter because there was a lot of carpeting in that house. Carpetting would do a lot of, you know what I mean? Come on. I don't know. It's not a gus one. Also, maybe less doors that lock from the outside. Yeah, maybe we could step away from that idea. Also, I mean, I guess Corey should

have just taken a breath and been like you know, it's humiliating, but if the parents have to unlock me out of here, whatever. I think we're playing with maybe he's like claustrophobic or something, which I think would be cool to, like, just nail a little bit. You know what I mean? A little more. But even this, but this attic is like bigger.

It's five times the size of my apartment. That's a good point. Yeah, that's a fair point. Really scared of cobwebs. I think he's just thinks Michael Myers is going to get him up there, you know? Yeah. This does end really awesomely with like he's looking over the banister, the parents are there.

And the mother just yells up and goes, what did you do? Bumpa, it's really, really, really, well done. Even as a skeptic like me, I think this sequence is fantastic. I like all the different jackal anards pulling their face back to reveal the new Jackal Anandron every time. Was it, is this like each Jackal entered from all the movies or it's just different fun designs?

I think it's different. Yeah, I thought that at first too, but like some of these are pretty funky looking. I don't think I'd seen it before. I refuse to read the trivia on this because I'm sure it's a nightmare. I actually went to the trivia. There's not that much of it. Really? No, not like someone smiled on Instagram one time.

No, that was a Jurassic Park, which is besieged by Instagram nonsense. No, not there. But yeah, I like this thing. It's cool. And this is when we start with the Laurie Strode narration is like, my daughter was killed. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. He took our dreams and turned them into nightmares. Now, here's the thing.

You see this girl in high school, like she's, you know, waxing poetic about whoever they're talking about. Like she's like, you know, just speaking on literature, this, that, and the other thing. You know, maybe Laurie Strode as a high school kid was destined for a career as a writer. Lines like he took our dreams and turned them into nightmares. Clearly you've had a man stalking you your whole life because your writing has not improved at all. Mr. Sandman. Hello there. This is Ned Boresby for NPR.

And we're talking to Laurie Strode about her book, Sad Murder Town. Now, Lori, you self-published this. Amazon wouldn't take it. You had to do it on CD Baby, is that correct? Where can people find the PDF of your book? Oh, yes, that's right. Here's the link to archive.org. It is on the internet way back machine.

You somehow put it on there. It's a very interesting way to publish it, ma'am. It's just you're listening to these pros, and they're really bad. Well, you know, it's been four years since I've seen my monster. And, you know, what's kind of cool about that is, Michael Myers respected COVID. He's like, I'm staying in. Yep, I'm staying in.

Oh, hey, you know what? They're saying shelter in place. All right. I can't be going out. You know what? The movies are closed anyway. You know what Mike's going to become? He's going to become a bug murderer.

Okay? You got to keep busy. Can't let you go to waste. You got to keep the muscles going. Yeah, I'm not getting really into door dash here because they come to my sewer drain with a pizza and then I murder them. He isn't living like a niger. though. Absolutely. Look at a full-on Ninja Turtle.

I already mentioned it. Maniac cop too kind of does this because there's a serial killer that takes, uh, Cordell, the maniac cop to, like his layer or vice. Or vice versa. I forget, it's been a minute since I've seen it. But there is that, that kinship among murderers explored in that movie. Do you think he's trying to get a job in between these four years?

You know, just hold down something a little bit. Get some, get some income. Uh, Michael, your resume is suspicious. Exhibiously blank. Where were you from 1978 until 2018? It's very good. I mean, it's very important to do small talk here at Coldstone Creamery. Now, do you want to

we do chop up the ice cream so that you're going to be good at that. So what's this year? Oh, did you had a podcast? What's that about? Oh, I killed a podcaster. That should have been killed a podcaster. Oh, oh, that's, who was it? Oh, Vox. Oh, well, that's okay.

That's fine. Well, well, okay. You know what? Welcome to the police force. But yeah, it's just like this long narration about how Lori Strode and Allison are moving, have moved on. How about to another town?

I just don't understand it. And this is, it's a total failing right here of, of the script that Corey is like at some point says to Allison like, okay all the Michael Myers stuff last year like why didn't you guys leave town and she's like I can't leave Haddonfield that's where all my memories are I was like do you know how a memory you're able to take it with you that's why it's a memory you get across the county line and you're like who am I where am I leave the town lines I would be stricken with paralyzing amnesia

I think Corey is stuck because his mother's like a monster person well he's also his life has been fucking extinguished from what happened there there's no more engineering school. Now he's working at the garage. Yep. And he's a fucking town pariah. People fucking hate him. The marching band is bullying him. The marching band. I think it's such a fantastic joke that he's things are so bad for this kid that the marching band's

shoving him around. Here's something about this movie and this happens a lot in all movies which always bugs me. Movies set in the Midwest specifically movie set in and around Chicago. Let's get some door. Like there is so like the lead bullies. Hey, man, what the fuck you're talking about? This kid is real bad. He's the worst performance

in the movie. You fucking nerd. And it's like, no, it should be like, I get out of here, you goddamn nerd. Hey, that nerdlinger over there. Oh, hey, I'm going to beat this guy to death with a fucking thing of tube meat. You know what I'm saying? It's great. I learned it from an episode of Alfred Hitchcock presents. Hey, child killer,

you're going to be buried 12 feet under Soldiers Field, buddy. That's where you're going to be. Yeah, we're in the marching band. yeah you don't you don't need this long island kid or whatever exactly some just diversify it up a little bit I know I would I guess I guess they would never hire like a real you know like chicagin yeah it would just be a British kid exactly I mean it's like if you had bought a four pack of like genzy action figures that is what these kids look like yeah it's so ridiculous like and like that's

kind of my problem is like if this was a movie where like a joke like that was about how that was funny I'd be into it but I'm supposed to take what happens between them and Corey very seriously and I'm like it's the fucking marching band it's the rare boy and girl bully working

together you know what I mean fully team up it's it's it's Gen Z dude the kids are alright yeah it's a little dirt they all team up to hate everyone else a little squirrely kid it's the tall kid with the mullet who I'm so thrilled is murdered you've got the other one, this girl who's

like probably the nastiest boy of the bunch and then there's like other girl like, come on guys let's leave Corey alone. Dude, let me tell you something about other girl man. Other girl for all of our let's keep leave Corey's alone has a brutal tag team death.

You know, dude, choose your friends better, sweetheart. Yeah, yeah. Don't fuck around. Yeah, so like Jamie Lee Curtis is having a great time now that her daughter is dead. um alison is working at the hospital and laurie's just driving around she runs into court we we meet core he's doing stuff at the is stepfather's junkyard is that i'm understanding this i yeah it's either step my father or i said in the intro it's just mom's boyfriend sure this is another pork roll fucking jersey motherfucker like again i just want a big fucking you know the bears dude to happen this this fella here i was like what is going on with this guy you you look at this IMDB page, this guy right up front in the bio.

Yeah, born in Queens, lived on both counties on Staten Island. I love it. Or Long Island, rather. This is the first time he's ever laughed, right? I don't know about that, but I just did the most cursory of glances at his IMDB. And the only other credit my eyes could spy was like dead mafia guy or something. They're like dead gangster or something. I mean, I agree it should be a Chicago Bears guy, but I do like this guy in this movie.

I think he's got an interesting look and presence that we don't see enough in movies anymore. Yeah. Again, the casting is so good. I would love the idea that he's like, you know, I can do a Chicago accent. You know, I can do that. No, don't do that.

I don't want it to make sense. Fuck off. This dude like gifts Corey, this motorcycle and he's like, hey man, like it's a piece of shit, but if you can get it up and running, you know, you got yourself a free You got yourself a free motorcycle here, kid.

You got a rough deal here. I'm your stepdad. I'm married to your literal harpy of a mother. Anyone notice who this woman is, by the way? Yes, she's the harpy of a next door neighbor that gets murdered in the sitter. Oh, yes. Oh, oh, I'm very happy now.

This lady known for having brutal deaths in movies. Because she just is like nasty all the time. And that's her deal. And yeah, so like these kids, I mean, this is literally my deepest fear. as a man who's under 5-5 being bullied by high school kids because it could really

it could really happen at any moment. It could happen at any moment it's my biggest fear. I mean, I'm terrified of them myself. Exactly. I'm like taking out my trash and I hear some kids. I'm like, I'm sort of like sheepishly like don't look at them. Don't make eye contact. Because you go right back to high school

and B, as a grown adult, what do you do? Start hitting these kids. You can't do it. So now they're just bullying you. See, this is the thing. Look what they. You know, now it's bad enough that the boomers pulled up the ladder on the economy so that known of us can make money. Sure. And now

they used to be able to just to grab some random kids, smack them around. Box their ears. I got me through high school thinking one day I could do that to other children. Well, Eric, fortune favors the brave. And if you really want to do it, if you're that petrified by someone who looks like Billy Eilish, I guess,

you know, go with it. Oh, one time I got accused of man slaughter and my life was ruined. It was old Mr. Gower that gave me a job at the drugstore. And one time I was getting bullied by all the band kids, you know, and Mr. Gower

came out there, he boxed her ears for me. Oh, I'm getting a, ooh, I'm getting the spirit of Michael Myers, Buffalo girls, want you to come out tonight. Come out tonight. I'm just getting you alive. You know, this country used to be something. You used to be able to dislocated a kid's

job for calling you fatty baddies. And now, Now you can't even do that. Well, Frank, your intestines aren't here. They're at Mary's house. And Lord, your heart, I left it in Ed's house. Dude, I actually fucking George Bailey getting the spirit of Michael Myers would make a ton of sense. What his fucking shithead little brother comes back from the war, he just decapitates him.

Yep. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas butcher shop. Merry Christmas weapons store. Merry Christmas, dead dog. Merry Christmas crematory. Merry Christmas Knife Outlet

Merry Christmas Dr. Loombers! He's like He'd be the Clarence maybe. Oh, yeah. No, you don't want to kill yourselves. You want to kill others.

I don't want any wings, actually. I just want to talk to you for a little bit because I'm bored. Oh, thank you for showing me a world where I didn't kill people. It looks awful. Better keep doing it.

It's me cool. also we see another thing just Allison being bothered in the town you glean there's a history here she gets pulled over by this cop dude who's like oh you didn't do nothing wrong I just wanted to see you again she fucked this dude once and he's never

gotten over it I got a feeling dude it's not even not even in all the way fuck it's like a bowling alley parking lot hand job yeah for sure yeah look she was going to have a few grief bangs like after her boyfriend got his neck snapped like that. Oh, but that dude fucking sucked. Yeah. It was cool that he got killed. Gutter balls.

That's what you're calling when you jerk off some cop in the parking lot of a bowling alley. Yeah, it's just, it's never, it's never a good idea. And now this guy's like, yeah, I just wanted to see you cutie pie. Yeah. You got to talk to you. I mean, it's not going to get you anywhere,

but it probably makes a lot of sense to talk to this guy's supervise. You know what, dude? No, yeah, I just like lightly abusing my power. Thanks for getting me that awesome two-week paid vacation, baby. What with filing that complaint against? I might turn it to the cannibal cop.

Guess we'll never know. You know, I might be turning on that camera. I hit in your room. Am I kidding? Who knows? Yeah, she goes to the hospital and yeah, this is when Corey's getting bullied by these teens because they, and I mean, like, I don't know, I haven't been approached

a really long time. I don't know right now if I would buy kids beer. You know what I mean? I'm just not sure if I I don't think I would. I'm not doing it. You know what? Truck your ID like everybody else. And I'm sorry that ID technology has come a long way since the days when we had to chalk our ID, but that's not my problem.

It depends where. I'm not doing it in my hometown. Okay. It's a road game only? If I am on the road and a kids just happen to be outside and like they happen to pick me. Kids, that's fine. for our next tour days.

If you're too young to get into the comedy club, see Chris Cabin outside the hotel. All you hungry 20 or you're thirsty 20 year olds. Show up, I guess. But see me, yeah, because here's things. I don't want the five bucks. That's for sure. And now I'm breaking the law for you.

Like, if this goes tints up, my ass is on the line. That's the thing is I'm mostly doing for the law break. Yeah. To get a little thrill out of life. I mean, come on now. Listen, break the law all you want. When you start doing it with under 18.

kids, Chris. It's a slippery slope, you're saying? I'm just, I just, it looks bad. Like, well, the rumor mill that would destroy you and make you a quarry, it'd be like, yeah, did you hear you, we took money from, uh, underage kids and they, you know, I don't know what they did. So we might have been, he was trying to drunk them up to dittle them. So that was saying all these controversies we've seen over the years. It's just been miscommunications between what I think, yes, yes, exactly. I think, I think, uh, everyone to catch a predator was just being. helpful. Just wanted to just wanted to go to Dylan's candy shop and get a couple pounds. They asked for wine coolers and he brought them and some condoms. He just carries them with them. That I mean,

I don't, I don't think that I would do it, but things that I would consider things such as, is this a bunch of 20 year olds or is it a bunch of 15 year olds? I think that's a big difference. And also, what are you asking me for? And I'm not going to give suggestions. I have to have my tastes align with yours. Yeah. If you want me to buy garbage, I'm not risking myself to buy garbage for you, such as wine coolers. Right. Wine coolers with. Any smearing off ice or mics, whatever the hell. That would feel, that would feel tough. But if it's like, if it's bottom level beer, if it's a course, I'm fine. It's, you know, for this, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, white claw probably. No, if you want me to buy you hard seltzer, go fuck yourself. Yes, I agree. That shit is

terrible. Because then I got to be like, okay, okay, yeah, what do you want? Okay, cool. Then I'll meet you around the back and I'll, I'll just, we'll do the. handoff. Now I'm in a fucking espionage with teenage. Here's the move. The approach you with the money, the money for the beer, $5 for yourself. But you take the money and you walk away. What are they going to fucking do? That's what those old people did to Steve Sanders on that 902 episode. That fucking rules. That's actually a great scam. Yes, everyone out there, I definitely will

buy you. But that's also part of it too, right? It's like the time that it takes, man. Like, I just came in here to buy rolling papers. Now I'm orchestrating this fucking beer hand on. I just think that like the movies and TV really made you think that this was a crime that was getting busted all the time. Like cops were just out there waiting for this shit

to happen and I just don't believe that. Chris, it was another boomer tradition. They used to oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let me do that for you. Get you lickered up. That's how it too. That's how it was. That was it. Okay. I'm glad the world is changing. Sure. So he says no. doesn't want to buy him booze. And he squeezes this

yuhoo bottle in anger till it explodes in his hand. Yes. They start teasing him about being a child burger. And again, like you just got to tell your mom, like, listen, I know that you want me to stay here. I appreciate Uncle Ronnie's fucking junkyard job. I got to get out of town. We got to move. If not, if not all the way to like California, like even North Haddon field. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. He is eerily like that.

a bureaucratic creep from Andor. Oh, yeah, yeah. Especially with the mother relationship. It's very reminiscent. That's true. That lady didn't want the kid leaving the apartment on Corson, but you know, just talk to your uncle.

He's going to get you in front of a computer job. But yeah, he brings the glass. And then they're about to beat the shit out of him. But then Laurie Strode comes in. And they're like, whoa, it's the freak show and the psycho. This is something that I know be bullshit because I'll tell you right now if you can get band geeks to do anything

it's to fold easily when authority comes along. Absolutely. So all of a sudden you're just getting yelled out by this known crazy person in your town who's like 50 years older than you. Oh yeah, it's a real let's get out of here. Not with this kid, this this Haddonfield Illinois leader of the

marching band is like, you fuck you say bitch. I mean that's my fear if I talk to any kid it's going to be it's going to destroy me. Exactly. they're fat soul like oh god that's it for me thinking about that every day my life exactly no i mean the thing is they understand that there's a there's an alpha and a beta of the murderers in town lorry strode clearly being the alpha of the two like she brings along a plague of death with her he's he's killed one fucking kid i mean come on now that's something that i i don't entirely

agree with this movie doing and i guess it i mean i guess more i don't agree with the towns people doing it. The movie, I think it does make sense because this is all about gossip and miscommunication and cross wires and whatever. But I really despise all these people putting this shit on her. Yeah. Like,

you fucking tease that guy. And look what he did to my sister who survived with this movie. We'll get to that in a second. But like, all of that shit about like, you fucking brought this on. It's like, no, she was literally living in the woods and two podcasters fucking do. She was asking for it, which is a weird angle to take.

Yeah, it's like he was brain damaged and you provoked him. Oh, that's a weird thing. Yeah, she provoked a brain damaged. What are you? I mean, this is in front of the nut house. Michael, hi. But that is completely in line with the Corey's story. Like this movie is like the world is shit.

People are shit. They will treat you like crap. And there are exceptions. Well, but that that's not true. Like, I'm sorry. It's not true. like it's not Andrew's the only one who's going to get this but like it's not like we're living in an elephant sitting still like that's not the world that like and it would be one thing if you did set it completely in that world but you're not even buying a completely into that the movie does try to set that up with all that again I still think bad Jamie Lee Curtis you know a voiceover because she's talking about how like the events consume the town and you have like the couple that are like two lovers in a jeep that looks like the zodiac got him yeah and then there's this old lady's that has hanged herself in front of her own house.

He caused suicide. I mean, they do try to set it up. I'm not saying it's successful, but they do try to set it up that for whatever reason in the confines of this town, it is hell on earth. Well, Pat, oh, Macro doesn't use goods. Yeah, yeah, totally.

I'll be telling you right now, big strike against this movie, I need more Will Patton. Oh, I always need more Will Patton. I think it's kind of interesting. I know it's like four years later. Halloween kills, evil dies tonight. mob justice

now the town is sympathetic towards Michael and hate Corey although they do by the end they are back in the mob justice they're back there is a line about that the town needed a boogeyman and they moved it on to him

that's what the crazy mother says to Jamie Lee Curtis is like your boogeyman disappeared and they needed to put that somewhere so it's like we put it on your kid yeah it's like the tape goat Honestly, towns do that. Small towns, there's gossip.

There's shit like, like I, you know, grown up, there's always this one guy in town. He's just an old hippie burnout, but there was, oh, everyone had you made up stories about, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's the old man, Marley syndrome. Exactly. But like, and like, I get it.

And like, I am sympathetic to Corey or empathetic to Corey in a lot of moments in this movie. But I'm also like, you have had, like what? I mean, What's the, it's a, how many years between, uh, what happened? It's only like three years. It's three years. Yeah, like, the first thing I would be, I like steal myself about would be like, I'm going to be called a child murderer. Like all the time. Like, it's just what's going to happen.

Like I. Yeah. And if a kid does it, I can't let it get to me like. Well, you know, if you get called something enough, you just eventually embrace it. You know, you're like, it's a badge of honor now. And you know what? If I become a monster, I'm not afraid anymore. Yeah. Sure. I mean, that is the point. I mean, that's the people making others afraid. Then I don't have to be afraid. I mean, that's the turn that he eventually does. Heard people, hurt people.

So she takes him to the house. First, she's like, hey, you're going to cut the... Oh. Like, she escalates this to a degree that doesn't need to happen. Like, yeah, obviously those kids are picking on you. But she's like, hey, Corey, are you a pussy or what? And he's like, what are you telling me? Old ladies, like, cut that kid's tired, dude.

Cut that kid's tired. It's interesting because that's still like... Up until that point... we've seen her like fussing about burning a pumpkin pie and she's really overly like into Halloween which I still think is just this complete set up yeah yeah I think it's an intentional setup like she is still laying in wait for Michael like that's my new theory about everything but that doesn't matter uh but yeah she's all about like the pies and Halloween

and this is the first echoes of like survivalist Laurie she just whips out this it's not a butterfly knife but it's like a yeah you or me someone is slashing these tires. That's another, I mean, what really, I guess what also pissed me off about the judy, I'm sorry to harp on it, but really did piss me off that they didn't really conclude that Lori doesn't get to mourn her fucking child on screen.

Oh, it's a big deal. But like you put, Lori put this kid through a Hannah program. Yes. And she barely puts up a fight against Michael. Like, and like, even that would have been, if you are going to just completely ignore that she died, I would like to see a bigger fight between

her and Michael Myers at least, because like, you fucking had her sharpshooting by the age of nine. She could bluntly kill an elk by hand. Like, it just, it does, it, it drove me nuts. But that is a, that is a fault of the last movie. Yes. We are here with this.

And, you know, I think if, if this movie was her weeping about Judy Greer a little too much, I, it wouldn't work either. I don't think. Yeah. I don't know. We're on uneven ground and that's kind of sound. But instead she's mistakenly playing matchmaker for her granddaughter, bringing this dude to hospital.

When he gets these stitch. is I kind of like the like gore in just the the healing. It's really it's kind of gross. It's kind of gross. It's good special effects of like her taking the glass shards out of the wound but man what is this like the second

the doctor goes to do something? He has like a freak out like kicks the table over and this doctor man I mean this dude gets his which is amazing but he's just like my god damn are you just spilling everything all over the floor like the bedside manner of this dude is terrible. Corey got a Cory boner and he takes

over the sky that's what happened you know Allison who looks like Andy Magic sees this kid and she is head over heels horny in second one yeah yeah like like because he's like awkward and nervous like you want to go somewhere you want to fuck you want to go for

you want to go for like immediately Cupid's arrow be damned it's not this extreme but it kind of reminded me I don't know why I guess maybe I would do for a rewatch because I've been thinking about this movie some sort of like weird super like fast and hard zoom from like Zoolander

because she's just like what? The camera's like Cory is so hot right now Cory definitely is so hot right now. That's something I wish they had dug in a little bit more. She's also aware of the fucking death. Yeah. She's like

let's go. I think that's but you know that's the connection. Like this person has been through a traumatic experience and so have I so we can actually have like I'm not going to freak him out. You know what I mean? Yeah, it'd be great in the pillow talk after they have sex the first time.

She's like, you could tell me, you killed that kid, right? He's being a little jerk. You knew he was there. Tell me about him. I remember him. I remember him? I remember I was talking about my friend Katie? Yeah, Katie babysat him one time. And that kid, real piece of shit.

Did he bounce a little bit when he hit the floor? Did he, did you choke him a little bit? If I found out, my wife killed a kid. I'd be like, fine. Well, she thought it was a ray gun. She probably, you know, she was a, in the right. I'm sure. She's pretty level-headed otherwise. Sure.

Yeah. All right. So, got to be supportive. Quick question. How many kids would she have to kill before you start to get a little, a little uncomfortable? What are you talking to three? Half a dozen. Yeah. I'm thinking. A fucking school bus. Yeah. You know, and then she was, then she was burned in a fucking fire as a janitor,

you know. Yeah. If you, if you pull a Scorpio killer, if you do dirty hairy, a whole bus load. Wow. She was killed. in a janitor fire. Do you talk about you'll be in my dreams forever? She came back to life and married me and we're going to rule hell together.

Can she also turn into a worm of herself? Chris, Chris. Come on. We're not talking about the bedroom right now. Look, a little decorum. I'm just saying a little too much information. On the boardwalk, you can turn into a worm too.

Well, if you want to, we keep the worm and the privacy of our own. Oh, okay. She talks about like, my car is rattling. He's like, I could fix that for us. That's so fucking sex. Dude, I mean, you know, again, I can I can drive a car. Sure.

It's about it. I can, I've said this before I can refill the windshield wiper fluid. Oh, it's as far as it goes. But something tells me, if someone says to you like, oh, my car's got a rattle or like whatever her line is, he's like, oh, well, that's definitely just this. And all

you need is like two screws and another thing. And I was like, I don't know, man, maybe you should like look at it before making this diagnosis. He's like so damn sure it's a problem with a whatever yeah and the next day she comes over because she is like practically like she gets his number

and she's like come to this Halloween party I want to fuck so bad yep totally I just love that this stupid mother the grieving mother is also at this part like hanging out of the bar yeah well it might be the only bar and that I don't know

and I will say this about this bar we're back at it's Lindsay's bar, we can just go right to it. Yeah. Who cares? Pretty, I have to say to this movie, pretty, pretty good soundtrack. Yes. Oh yeah. It gets great tunes in this. 7.0. Here's what's going on. And here's the thing, though. It's great being at this bar for this Halloween party as opposed to when we were at the bar in the last movie and we're doing the open mic Halloween vigil shit. No, thank Christ. All those people got murdered so we don't have to do that anymore. That tradition is long done. Totally. I think Lindsay is like, oh, good. I don't have to host that sad sack shit.

anymore. I can just have a nice, sweaty ass Halloween party. Everyone that remembers that is dead. They have no idea it even happened. I thought Lindsay was going to get in this one. I'm kind of glad she didn't. You know what I mean? You want some survivors. Yeah. It's, you know, her and Lori, now officially the only survivors

of the 1978 massacre. Robert Longstreet can't survive a fucking thing. I know. Like, you just put this guy in any kind of supernatural situation. He is like one of the first ones to fucking get it. And he always is a drinking problem. Every time. He's very on the face for it. Yeah. That's a voice who

someone who drinks and smokes a lot. And maybe he does IRL and maybe he doesn't. He's just got that great gravelly voice. I don't know. Biggest tragedy of the last film is that dude. She is going to, Alison's going to jerk this kid off right on the fucking floor, right on the dance floor. Yeah. And it's awesome. It is. It's great.

Fucking cut loose, dude. The kid is the, uh, this one of the movie turns into Michael Myers the Scarecrow Kid, original title to this film. Kind of a better movie. I, you know, I kind of like the scarecrow mask because it's like, it's not obviously like commercial IP and it's like it's one of those early like

Halloween things that are so innocuous like that like the Jacko Lantern or yeah it's just the fall thing well back I also think raggedy andy for me it's cute which it makes it creep which it makes it small and stuff looks I was going to say that's what I thought you were going with it because in that like if you're like I'm a scarecrow that is like and I've said this before those if you ever see old timey photographs of how Halloween, like Halloween during the Great Depression, whatever, like World War II Halloween, like, holy shit, those costumes are terrifying. World War II Halloween, what is this, Prince Harry?

By the way, he's going to be on this show next week. Oh, really? Let's get him. You DMed him, man. Oh, yeah, let's get him. So they're dancing and it gets really sexy and like it gets so sexy because I mean, like, the untold thing is like Corey's comfortable being in public because he's wearing a mask, obviously. Yes.

And he gets so sexy, he takes his sweater off, but now he's good, first of all, wearing that sweater. I don't know. What are you thinking? What are you thinking? You always got to do that thing. In October, if you're going to a bar, you don't bring a cabled sweater and a jacket. You just bring the jacket.

It's one of the other. I agree with that. When you're actively avoiding getting a hand job like this with such deaf skill, you need to keep warm. All he needs to say is bath. It's just like absolute. He doesn't even say bathroom. Yes, absolutely. let's do it. Yep, yep. I will suck your cock in this bathroom. Also, here's the thing.

I'm all for cutting a rug, especially you have not been out in a while. Sure. I'm one with the kid killing. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. But as a reminder. Jeremy had a coming. Anyway. But where I have to draw the line is laying down on your back and doing the crazy dancing. Now you're just taking up space. You're bothering people. And you're calling attention to yourself. I mean that, but they make it, it's like he's having a little bit of a freak out there. It seems like, it seems like he is going through something. Sure. I'm sure it's very cathartic, but listen, you know what?

Catharsis or no, don't bother people. Get the fuck out of here. No, just don't lay on your back and scramble around like a turtle. And then she, then the mother seems like, oh, you must be having a great time. Corey is like, fuck, that's right. I still live in the same town wherein I killed that kid. It's been four years, lady. come on. Oh, I mean, I

am of the mind that this lady was literally like, because she like thought he might be here. Or heard he might be here. Because like, why else are you fucking here? It's all 22. Dude, she's posted up at the bar. She has not moved in a while. Get a life loser.

Sorry your kid, dad. Well, here's the other thing. They, we learn shortly in this movie that they have just abandoned that house. Yeah. Because Corey like hangs out there from time to time. But you're telling me, so these people, because the father is also hanging out at this bar in a separate scene, not with the wife, by the way. So you abandoned this house that your kid fucking

hilariously ate shit in at the beginning of this movie. But you are in the town still. That's almost worse than like, just move. You know, I got out of jail and I'm living with my terrible mother and whatever and I'm still in town. But like, you already went to the steps to move out and you chose to move to another house. What about your cousin in Iowa? Rebuild your life there. She's exactly the type of woman who would have read Lovely Bones, probably twice.

Go out to wine country. Lose yourself. Find yourself. But then you can't tell, then you can't keep an eye on Corey and tell him every time he gets half a stock that he's going to fucking burn in hell. Oh, there's a line at some point.

I think maybe one of the kids calls him Mr. Aggravated Manslaughter. So that was, I guess, what he was charged with. But he beat it. Yeah. He beat the charge. did he actually beat it or was it like maybe he did he might have went to jail for a minute i don't

yeah it doesn't see they don't i think they would bring something like that up i feel like you probably did you know he probably did like time while while the trial was either or probation yeah oh yeah that's maybe that's why i can't leave that might make some sense yeah because you oh house arrest would make yeah that would be interesting and then i mean that's like a thing that's be your mother's custody kind of a deal yeah and that's you know if she's like why didn't you leave after that and he like pulls his pant leg up and it's like this is a little darling here. If DGG is listening, write a fucking a Corey novel.

Expand on this. Do what Tarantino did with once a part of time in Hollywood. There is in the in the IMDB trivia, the only thing from the novelization that made it in there, which is so stupid. Oh, it's real dumb. Which is not beneath this trilogy because they love bringing back the old character. I had no idea there was a novelization. There is. And the only thing that can't come from it is the bully who we're about to meet.

Again, the lead bully with the New York accent. Yeah. Is apparently Ben Tramers' grandson. Oh, shut the fuck up. Oh, wait, wait. Ben, somehow Ben Trammer returned. No one's really ever, no one's really, uh, ever gone. Yeah, whatever he remember. Man, novelizations of movies. Those are like pennies. We're never getting rid of those fuckers. I guess not. Who's reading that? That's a great question.

Nobody's reading it. Nobody. If you can't find that shit at an airport Hudson News, where are they keeping those books? Like, are they just being sold to the used bookstores of America and just like, and they're just there for you to find? Fresh off the presses, take them all to the book bar.

Their bargain basement immediately. Totally. Oh man, I'm leaving through this Fabelman's. There's a lot of stuff in here. You know, I'm actually kind of curious if there's a good, if there's really good one. You know, tweeted us or something at WHM podcast. I don't believe these new ones. There's no way. But maybe back when you were like in the heyday of this shit.

I remember for whatever reason, the only one that I've read front to back of movie novelizations, my grade school had in the library a copy of the novelization of both Back to the Futures two and three in the same book. Nice. That is. It is one. big story when you think about it I mean it's just Wait in that did they repeat like Word for word the scenes from earlier like did they just copy

and paste parts of the book and I seem to remember like different or similar dialogue but I remember I didn't already go all the way with his mother in that one or no it's only two and three so I don't know I mean maybe in the first one's novelization but it was the first time because I don't remember what they were but things

just like in any movie it was two and three I thought it was one and two No, it's two and three in the same book. And it was a thing where I just, for the first time, learned, like, oh, they add things that aren't in the movie. Yeah. And I had obsessively watched those movies. And I knew them in and out way back then even.

And I was, I don't remember what they were, but I remember thinking like, well, I wasn't in the movie. What the fuck is this book talking about? Got like really mad at it. I mean, I think that's the only reason for novelizations, we'll go back to the movie eventually, is to just sort of like for obsessives of the movie. It's extra nugget of these.

You get to live it one more time But then again, now the streaming window is so small That's got to just squeeze that diamond even tighter Because usually it'll be like, oh, I gotta wait seven months Until I could watch this movie again I'll just read the novelization of Batman returns. Right, whatever, you know what I mean? That is a function that would serve because it would come out

Right when the movie did so you can see the movie And then go get the book and relive the majesty. And to answer your question, I believe Marty did fuck his mother in the novelization. But he's a two-pumped jump. Come on. Come on, Lorraine. It's like,

the kids don't always come out funny like that. Nobody. Nobody calls me a two-pump jump. That's actually how Prince Harry was conceived. Back to the Future, written by John Updike. Well, that sounds interesting. Oh, boy.

I have to say, for what it's worth, that QT book for Once Upon Time in Hollywood is awesome. It's awesome. I haven't gone to you, but I have it. It's a fun fucking time. Again, though, I think it's only worthwhile if you know the movie inside and out. And it's also like it's him. It's like, you know what I mean? It's not like some fucking hack writer.

I will say that I've been reading the other book, Cinema Speculation. My copy is right behind. It's if you like, I can't take most of his opinion seriously. But like he's reading him as a writer is a lot of fun. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, Corey, being yelled at in public, he realizes, oh, no, I'll never be normal again. He leaves. He gets in a bit of a screaming match with Allison because she's like, what, you know, he's like,

I'm not your project. Dude, this girl is so attractive, it is so into you. You're going to throw it in her face that she's being nice to you. Yeah, that's a problem. The one thing that I do think is interesting here, though, is because she does try to pull like a, I know where you're coming from, you know, we're the same. He's like, no. I agree with Corey here.

I'm on Corey's team. He's like, let me explain this to you. Like, you are the survivor that got away from Michael Myers. I'm the kid killer that everybody, like, don't you understand, Allison, like, I am the Michael Myers, you know, of the Jeremy's story. And you are, you know, the living survivor of a similar story. We are not in fact, like, yeah, sure, we're damaged and fucked up. Yeah, yeah.

You know, and in our own way, we're different survivors, but we are not the same. we are not looked at as the same. No, of course not. No. And yeah, she's crazy for saying that. He goes over to an overpass. Uh-oh, his high school bullies are back. Speaking of fucking back to the future, do this big tan and gang. And what we're under, what we are now led to believe is Ben Tramer's grandson comes out and starts giving him shit. We've seen an earlier scene that Ben Tramer's son, his father, son of Tramer.

Was smacking him around. So like, Corey kind of throws it back at him. I was like, I know you just fucking want to hurt me because he. hurts you and that said, just get off. You're an asshole because your father treats you like one. Yeah. And then they get the whole shoving match. Speaking of back to the future, he's kind of a George McFly

this query. He definitely is. I would like to see George, George McFly maybe inspired by the Spaceman episode of you know, of the honeymooners. He dresses up like that and starts stabbing people. Get your damn hands off her. I'm going to cut her fucking throat. Now,

Terry, I paid you for two Coats of wax. To be fair, he does, Corey does kill somebody with the Carkscraw. He does. He does kill some of the Carkscraw. So he shoved

off this bridge and he gets encounters the hobo encampment here, right? And you know, it's fine. It's a little obvious. It's a little, I mean, and apparently that Corey is very reminiscent of the character from Christine, a movie I actually don't like

they have the same They crush the glasses It's like the old crush the glasses Trope And I'm like Do you say that because you got glasses Is this like a Is it too close to home

It hits you right there It's just so obvious And my question is later on When he gets the power of Sowan Or whatever goes into him Sure Is it a Spider-Man Toby McGuire scenario

Where he doesn't need the glasses anymore Well we don't particularly know Just why he needs glasses, right? I don't, I don't have those are reading for sure. Yeah. Those are reading. Well, there's, there's lines later that like, what,

Laurie Strode sees Michael's eyes in him, like, I guess his eyes change. The movie, listen, just as, and Steve has put this up, it's for several years now, your theory about there's just a little bit of magic in that first home alone movie. Yeah, sure.

This movie is indeed trafficking and there's just a little bit of magic going on a whole lot of magic. want a whole lot of magic So Michael is hanging out A car going by It's Led Zeppelin, you idiot I'm an idiot for not knowing Led Zeppelin

Look at Grandpa here Jack, they used to be the best band In the world I never, to be honestly I never really got the lead out Really? I'm not really big fan Michael is playing poker with the Ninja Turtles

In this second Michael Angelo you're raised You're cheating again bra I can see your cards splinter's like, I had to give up on him. I tried to teach him to just like pizza and party down. And he just kept on wanting to play stabby game. Yeah, I actually was thinking about teaching him ninjitsu, but I'm like, this guy's got enough.

He's got enough powers. Totally. He's definitely got a fine enough skill set as is. You don't need to add martial arts to the band. I'm a four and a half foot rat and that guy smells like shit. Again, four and a half foot rat, my ball is. are disgusting. I have big, huge rat balls. That guy stinks

like shit. I want to throw up, but I sit next to him. You know, I'm just in the other room over here, Master's splinter. Leonardo, that guy's got to go. He smells like shit. Aren't we supposed to accept everybody, Master? Fuck that.

Do you smell what's going on here? Do you smell what that man's cooking? It's his own shit. It's like Casey Jones had diarrhea and didn't change his pants. I am going going outside to smell the homeless man to get a breather. I love that that establishes as Casey Jones smells a little bad anyway. Oh, yeah.

You know he does. He's one of those guys who thinks he's going to get cancer from using deodorants. This part of the movie, I get the criticism because I don't think Michael Myers is a guy just to hide. You know what I mean? No. I mean, this movie sort of presupposes, which I kind of don't truly understand, because the end of the last movie, it's like, oh, I think Lori Strode gives this monologue

about like he is true evil and like he gets power from all the kills that he has. And that's kind of what this movie is doing. He has a little power up meter. He's trying to get, yes. But what did he lose it? Why did he stop killing? And then at the end, she's like, oh, you're just a man. You're not a whatever. So it's like which is. Yeah, exactly. And I think

to the detriment of this film, if you just rewind for a second to them opening credits, four, count them four. writing credits. Yes. A big time. I think it's just it's a lot of people that were really excited about this whole notion of this trilogy and it's just too many ideas. That makes it. Some like like two separate drafts colliding. Big time separate drafts. I don't want to start this discussion again, but I have to say this. The zombie at least has the imagery to match that kind of metaphysical element, that kind of like supernatural thing. Like that's kind of the, I don't

actually mind if you're doing it. But it's just kind of like, no, you come on, you fucking get it. Come on. Stop playing around. You get what's happening. Well, it's weird. I mean, they do try to do it in a couple ways. Like, when the kid, so he gets dragged into the sewer. Right? And

like, Michael sort of like saves him after he gets pushed off the bridge. The guy's got seven seconds. But, like, in that scene where he's trying to leave or whatever, the next morning, like, he wakes up he's like wow that was crazy and he tries to leave the sewer and michael grabs him like out of some catacomb that he's like hiding in and they have that like stare down and there's something with

the eyeball and we replay his yes like because you see the camera like looking at corey and it's a reflection of michael in there and then you look and it's like corey looking at michael and it's like this dead hole the movie at least on my third time through i was like they are trying to telegraph some sort of transfer of, if not power, then, like, identity slash responsibility. You know what? It must have something.

Friday nine now. Yeah, exactly. Michael, he's eating his heart. If he could speak and he'd be like, my man, my man, my man, man, man, come, go here. You, sir, look like someone who might have killed a kid on Halloween. Am I right? Am I right?

Tell me to fuck off. I'm wrong. But you're like he killed a kid on Halloween. I knew it. I fucking do it. Just the way you walk. He can sense other murderers. It's like bones and all smelling cannibals.

Oh, dude, fucking Corey versus Mark Rylance. Oh, Sully. Oh, who can get weird or faster? The answer is Mark Rylans. I could smell you a while away, little Corey. I really love that movie. I re-watched it. It's great.

It's great. It's even better for me the second time. You and your cutie pie boyfriend. Oh, dude. That Sully's so fucking weird. Now we're going to eat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Are you my friend?

Are you my friend? I don't like getting ditched. What does he say about like, oh, we ate together. You can't walk away after that. Yeah. I fucking love that movie. And I love Mark Rylans in it. I burped you.

I burped you after you ate the bones. You should be thankful for me. My man, man, you killed a kid of Halloween, right? Come on in here. Come on here. Come on, dude. We're having a good time. Oh, this guy knows what's up.

All right. Follow up question. You got to be honest. You got to be honest. You want to destroy this whole town. Like you hate everybody in this town. I got a feeling you hate everybody in this town. I read about you. People flushed the newspaper down the toilet. I was reading about you. I had nothing to do. It's going to be the quickest interview you ever had to go through, brother. Have you watched your sister have sex? Yes. No question, brother. And then I can let you into the fold. But I seriously think to Eric's point, it is a game recognizes game. He's just like, yep, you're a fire. weirdo, let's go. But like, I need, if that is what's going on, I needed to be a whiplash situation. He's like, oh, you, you accidentally made a kid fall to his death. Very nice. We're talking about 75,000 contact kills. Fucking knife in hand, brother. The thing is like, it's, it's almost touching on something interesting because like Michael Myers as a kid, yes, he committed a murder, but at like such a young age that like, did he? You know what I mean?

It's just like... You're responsible for it. Right. Well, I mean, you can't open that door because then you start being like, how's a kid like that have like the strength to get through bone or like anything to go after? Like, I've just like, no, like it's always been a little magic. It's always been a little bit of it.

Right. So he gets the magic. He leaves some other hobos like, you, hey, no one's allowed in there. Ooh, you talk to. Could you get me the mask? Go in there. Get me the best. It's the same guy that like creeps him out a little earlier in the movie.

And it's just like, you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, fellas. Sorry to tell you. And he starts arguing with Corey, he's got a knife and like in self-defense, but brutally Corey murders his hobo. That's what's interesting, right? Because it's a self-defense thing. And then it's like, oh, oh, it's just that easy because he goes back up on this dude

a couple of times. And this was one of those moments where I got a real like early odds DGG vibe because it's like this really nicely composed shot of like this underpass. And he's stabbing this guy like the corner of the frame and then like beautiful well lit like suburban highway road is just right over here you just hear from the sewer. Corey! Are you stabbing that fucking elbow? My man, I fucking do it, dude. This guy rocks. You just fucking kill that homo. Yeah. Oh yeah. Corey. Put an alligator mask over the homeless man after just, you know, just to make it just so.

I mean, what he's really killing him for is they're jockeying for position. This guy's like, I'm going to be the next mic or my mask. Get me the mask. I'm going to be my car my eyes. But now after this, you know, Corey starts shaping around the neighborhood. Yeah, he does. So this, I guess,

Ledlin's credence to the magic and soul transfers. Because he immediately goes to Lori and Allison's house and we have the shot of like Lori looks out the window and sees him standing there. After some more just horrendously constructed lines. for this book where one of the things is she's like she's talking about something like you got to decide like when you experience these things

you got to decide what road you're going to take and is it going to be suicide or cherry blossoms and I was like that cherry blossoms reference while nice is from a private conversation you had at the grocery store with Will Patton that nobody knows about so your sentence

makes no freaking sense quick question about Will Patton again I love and I love him in this movie and I love him in all things he's great in Manari by the way that should have been a best supporting actor nod for Monari is this comb over his idea

or David Gordon Green's is it like the character or is this what Will Patton is doing out in the public I would like to think Will Patton has enough respect for himself that he's like yeah you can make me look ridiculous yes it's a big fat comb over I have not seen a comb over like this since

1970 something which I think is probably why it's the movie not Will Pat oh yeah yeah I think he may be, he's probably a baseball cat man out of the normal world. When I think of Will Pat in this movie and, I mean, one, the hilarious notion that he survived is the first one after being cut in the neck. But I guess that's part for the course with this trilogy. It's, I think, especially with this novelization tidbit here, the fact that he is not, like he's playing Frank whatever. This should be Ben Tramer.

Yeah, sure. want that connectivity, why would you not make him Ben Trammer? Because he wasn't killed in this timeline. Correct. Yeah. And so like, especially because the literal last scene of this movie is the two of them deciding to move on together and it's sort of intimated that like she's going to get down to fucking. They're definitely fucking and maybe she'll go to Japan with him or if that, you know, little life ever happens, whatever. And how fitting would it be for Ben Tramer? Because the guy that she had that innocent crush on back in 1970, she finally got.

That is a full closure kind of thing. And it's a missed opportunity that he's just Frank, whatever the shit. The other cop, cop number three. Yeah. Yeah, he goes. And this, again, I do think this is like kind of like choose a lane here. I'm not the world's biggest fan of the homage to the original shot of like Corey is there and then Corey's not. It's like, I know what we're doing. But like, so like Lori is like, oh my God, I think he's secretly Michael Myers or something.

This is like Jamie Lee Curtis trying to be in this movie She's like I know the movie's left me behind But no no I have some ideas I do want to be in the And because obviously the ending is going to be her Which again is sort of like just it's just muddled This is the idea It is and her just being evil sniffer of the town

It's like what? This lady's just like Now that guy's evil now I can tell Yeah totally all right lady Get back to do get you to bed grandma But we're talking about eyes in the same way That Dr. Loomis talks about eyes right because she's just like, I looked in his eyes and it was pure. I mean, we don't recognize it as the same exact line more or less because she's not screaming.

That's true. Well, also, maybe you work at your mother's boyfriend's mechanic shop for four years after accidentally killing a kid. My eyes might do something too. It might just on their own do something. stop judging eyes lady they're brown it's fine yeah so now we get a little bit of a glaze going Corey want like come on Allison

give me another chance it's just go on a walk with me please I got let's go to okay oh great she's agreed let's go to my murder house I want to revel in the crime scene I'm gonna convince you that I'm a totally normal guy this is where I killed that kid isn't this cool look at the blood stain is still there I'm gonna lie on it for a little bit just stand over there

literally sleeps on it at the end of the movie which I thought was quite disturbing I do like the line that he has right here though It's kind of clever We says to her he's like I killed someone Yes and I think That's him like sort of admitting

Confessing to the homeless man situation But then it's also like Let me tell you where this other story And like that's so that's how He's getting at both ways Andy Matichick's character I didn't technically lie to you Okay look yes you can be mad

Okay okay okay yeah I murdered everybody Okay, okay, okay. I technically told the truth before I laid down on the ground where the dead body of the child I killed was and started going, uh, Oh, he's tugging it on there. Oh, he's doing the worm for sure.

Just like a dog when it gets on his back kind of thing, this I'm imagining. Speaking of, I want to see Corey, I eat a dog. Let's do it. If he's got the evil, let's see it. Totally. And like that may be like he does want to.

go like full hound but like maybe that homeless guy had like a squirrel friend or something maybe he could just grab that real quick right here he almost eats a pig he stays yelling at this this cop like they go to this they go to this diner or whatever and

this dude who had I guess went on that date got the gutter ball treatment with that's yeah it's the polo guy yeah Doug is the birthday dude is he the cop yeah no what's the oh what's he say though it's oh it's Joe Grillo's birthday Day to day. She's like, I don't give a

six 40 year old dudes at a diner celebrating one of the dude's birthdays and there's just this cute little birthday gift back. It is the funniest detail. It is. It's sad as fuck. Jesus Christ Doug. Who's Joe Grillo? Oh, no. Sorry, I misspoke. It's Frank

Grillo's birthday. We're all huge fans. We just Frank Grillo's day. We just love the Purge series. We think he just did such a wonderful job. I'm like, you're going to tell me that anybody was better in that Captain America movie. Cross bones. Cross bones.

Best villain. You name me a better villain in the MCU than Crossbones. You know, I know what you're talking about, but I didn't remember the name of the character, and I didn't remember which movie that was in. He's in a couple of them. The third Captain America. He's in at least, yeah, he's in the second, they set him up

in the second movie, and I think he's paid off as crossbones. In the beginning of the third one. Total screen time in the 91 second. Doesn't crossbones like cause the big, kerfuffle in civil war that they're all getting blamed for. Guys guys we can't talk about

Marvel. No no I mean like that's not even the movie that we really celebrate it's really the purge election year is what we really it is a masterpiece of the modern cinema and I just all of us directed DVD movies with Sylvester Stallone they're fantastic oh you know

what sorry Allison I got to get back to my table all of our grillo cheese sandwiches oh yes but he goes And it's just like, hey, baby, you know, like, it's Tom Grillo's birthday, want to hang out. Tom would like to see it. And she's like, no, I'm with somebody. And this is what Corey's, he's with someone, you know, he's got to get really,

oh, he gets right in this dude's face and freaks him out too. Yeah, pretty good. Oh, yeah, that little kid killer, aren't you? Yeah. Ooh, yeah. What are you up to today, kid killer? It's so weird to see a kid killer actually act like a kid killer. It's just like you're all shaky and talking like that.

it's really something and this is where we make our like you know young lovers on the run packed here because you know she's like they're talking about like you know fuck the town or whatever we're dug interrupt so then she's like you know fine fuck it i want to burn it all down and cori's like i'll like the match and like i'm sorry unless you are indeed planning a terrorist attack on your town there's other ways to talk about getting out well this is when and mean it again in this movie which is a fucking you know just totally different movies stitched together

this is my favorite of the movies which is very influenced by David Lynch and like you know what I mean all this dreamy shit on the back of the motorcycle we're watching the highway which may or may not be a lost highway you know what this is also DGG man like those motor cycle shots and the wind in their hair

and everything it is but I mean it just sort of it it just goes in and out you know what I mean like go like really like air this movie is not airy and it wants to be yeah like it and it has airy shots and airy moments

but like to really make that work you need to be like bones and all like really airy right you know what it means yeah yep doesn't gel and you don't have to like sacrifice the horror and the gore

and all of that stuff because if you've seen bones and all yes don't worry about it yeah sure all over that movie but so this is when Corey She's like, hey, do you want to go upstairs? Like, no, I'm going to just go.

I kind of promise this guy I'd visit him in the sewer. And she's like, oh, really? I got to feed him, yeah. I got to go see my sewer friend. So he leads this dude who's now following them. Nobody does this to Doug Mullaney.

Yeah, so he leads Doug Mullaney to the sewer. And, you know, Michael gets him. It's Corey gets the assist. He gets the asses. The referee has to give him the assist. It's bonding moment for them. It's a really, it's, it was fascinating to me from the first time I watched it because this is a hypersexual, we're having a three-way kid, because it's like, Corey's got this guy and the dude's like writhing on top of them and Michael's just like sticking this knife and he'll pump him up top. I mean, it's truly something. This whole sequence. Hot. It's very hot. It's kind of like the mating scene in Midsamar. This is what my little bit more blunt.

This is what Michael starts to feel it from the crowd. He's gotten to the worst peppiness stuff. This, I think, is the dumbest part of it all. Because, like, I think I'm on board with, like, transference of evil through a glance or, like, we keep looking at Corey's infected hands. We're calling evil an infection. I'm fine with all of that.

But the Michael getting electrocuted almost because he's getting the power back. Boy, that's stupidish. We can't introduce quickening's here. We just can't. Dude, I swear to God, if there was thunder and lightning outside, there's a lawsuit here. That's, I would disagree. If you're going to do it, do it. Go fucking full lightning.

I want to see force lightning. I want to see ghosts going through him. Oh, yeah. All of it. Don't fucking do his bullshit. He's a little jiggle. He's doing a little jiggle. Jeremy's ghost is scribbling around.

Oh, my God. Like the trolls of Ernest scared stupid. That's what I need. something like that. I'm in hell. It's hot here, Corey. And then the next murder is because Allison goes back to work and the other the other lady who we find out is having an affair with the doctor

gets a promotion. Yes. I guess Corey is hip to this question mark. That's why he does the home invasion. He knows about the how she didn't get the promotion. But it's also just like it's some it's someone to kill. The doctor also saw his Cory Boner when he knocked over the thing. He doesn't like him. It's important to point out

that this whole doctor sequence does happen after the fucking because it's a weird It's like, do you want She's like you want to come in? He's like, no, I gotta go see a guy about a sewer drain. We kill this cop And then he goes back and he's like Oh, you know, something went down, blah, blah, I missed you. And it's kind of interesting because we do

This is a shot that I thought mimicking it worked a little bit or Lori sees Allison and Corey going up the stairs. Yeah, that's a cool thing. That's a nice, it's sort of a nice little thing. Another deleted scene is when Corey is like, yeah, man, I'm going to get a guy out of here. I'm going to go back to Alice.

He's not going to help me skin this, dude? He's going to skin this big fat guy. I mean, I haven't eaten all day, man. I was going to cook this guy up. Just a little. I don't go back to your girlfriend. Look, I mean, I. Whits.

Yes. Oh, man. She's got you by the street. short ones, dude, you're not even going to eat this cop with me. Old his heart to myself. All right. You don't know what you're missing. Enjoy your girlfriend. Enjoy your half measures, loser. So, and now on the other side of time, Dr. Mathis is also trying to get laid.

And with this, you know, his new head nurse. Oh, Dr. Mathis is definitely getting laid, my favorite detail about this sequence is the woman he knows from work who he's having an affair with or whatever. Or whatever. Or I don't know. Maybe he's singing. go, I don't know, whoever he's fucking. She only calls him Dr. Mathis which I thought is very funny instead of, presumably

it's got a first name. Yeah. And he's got a boomer fucking like fire pit out there. Oh yeah. I mean, maybe he's first name's doctor. I think, like if I had a kid, maybe I would name him doctor. And then he'd become a doctor. He'd have to become a doctor. No, he wouldn't. But it'd be

become like a jingalow. But people would treat him with respect no matter what he was, even if he was a jigolo, even if he killed a kid. Yes. Oh, Jigolo would definitely make more people respect him. Oh, if he was a jiggleau, then it would be how about this where he can't raise? Oh, the doctor's ready to operate. Okay, how about maybe

Jigolo's his middle name? Dr. Jigalos. I'm not just a jigalow. Dude, if you want to have a kid that only goes by DJ, name him

Dr. Jigalos. That's going to be... I think Yeah, I would do that. You'd go for the DJ. DJ? Yeah, stop it. DG. Are you spelling Jigolo with a G or a G or a G? Oh, it's a G. See, the Juggalo's dude, that's where they screw you.

If you wanted to be Dr. Jiggy, I guess. Or I don't know. There's something that has a nice ring about Dr. Jigolo. It does sound good. Or Dr. Juggalo. Yeah, that sounds good too. That's the Midwest version. She's about to get naked to take a shower, but uh-oh, the whatever fucking, you know,

boomer music. It's cut out. Spotify put on getting down playlist. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It is, it's, it's, it's Alexa. And it's something I didn't. Alexa raw dog. Yes, but this is where we get our, our scarecrow with the cocks crow. Oh, yeah. He's just kind of comes out. And Corey's just really nailing this fat guy. And you know what can, and I'm sure this is not the last Halloween. I'm positive of it just because we live in commerce hell. well dude i mean i hope october is this year i hope we don't fucking you know i hope the world continues oh he means another motion picture oh can we now finally retire the headcock i hate it i really so fucking done with the headcock oh no it's coming i think you're gonna get more

head no i know it's going i know there's going to be another hollowing movie and of course there will be another headcock i like the headcock right it's cool in the first four times he did it yeah but i mean hey they're if they keep making him i every time he does that though it takes away from the first one in 78 with Bob because that is like this he's like admiring it. He's curious. This is a kill he hasn't done before. By the time you get to this, I'm like, what are you so fascinated about? It's the eighth time I'm saying you do this. I'm not laughing at the fucking 27th time Bart Simpson says, I carumba. Just give it a, you know what? I'm laughing a little bit. Really? It's part of Bart's antics. They're pretty good. It's the line specifically, though.

sure he does yeah he stabs this girl against the wall very much like bob and he does the head cut i mean i do like the moment of like cori's trying to get back in the house but she locked the door and then he just stops and then boom michael michael's there the tag team aspect is interesting core core come in here come in here watch what i'm going to do here all right so there she is right she's dying right now i'm not i'm not going to pull my head over the whole way just like about 12 degrees to the left. Yeah. And about another few months, we'll get to some training for you, Cor, and

you'll be able to walk right through a plate class door, just like I did. You're going to bring up that. You're going to build up your body, Corey. You're going to do it. Look, the corkscrew wasn't bad, but not my tempo. Honestly. Here's the thing, Corp, after you, you pin and you do the head cock, you're going to be real tempted to let out

a real, huh. Don't do it. You can't be talking, man. We just don't talk. Look, man, I, you know, I really I thank you so much Michael for all you've done for me but really the three way we did with the cop was the only time I wanted to do a group thing with you I was just experimenting

I just wanted to try it once I didn't want you to come here with me and try to take a kid like I was interested in killing her I know I got this German Shepherd back in my place go back I have some brood dogs eat some dogs you know look I would have invited you if I wanted to

it's not saying we can't hang out Yeah, no, no, no, no, just go hang out with your girlfriend. I get to hang out with your girlfriend. The reason you put it out there, Core, I mean, like, I taught you all these skills. Uh-huh. I think they're important life lessons. Didn't charge you a dime. Look, I really, I love the evil magic you gave me.

The evil magic feels so good. And like, being able to just smash things is so cool. I really love it. I would love evil magic. I know. There's a thing that I do like, though, with this, that when she gets pinned the nurse sort of looks out the door

to Corey and he takes the mask off and she I think has a little bit of recognition and it's like oh fuck the town weirdos involved in my death that's like I think he realizes now that the scarecrow ain't cutting it and he needs to be the big cheese here

right yes because it's not invoking the fear that the Michael mask has in this town I mean sure but I think that scarecrow mask is terrifying. Great Depression Halloween costume. Look, Michael, I have to kill you. Like, I looked on eBay and you just would not,

you cannot believe how much they are. The old versions, I just don't understand how much I fucking would have to pay to get the goddamn mask. So he, uh, he hangs out with Andy again or Allison again. And he's like, hey, tomorrow we're going to leave town. Why don't we hang out in front of this radio station? This is, it's fine.

It's cool. It's just one more way to kill one more guy. Like, if he comes out, he calls him an ugly motherfucker, which made me laugh. Yeah. Anybody catch who's working at the radio station as the receptionist? I assumed she was someone. She's Diana Prince, aka Darcy the male girl from Joe Bob Briggs program.

And pornography. Oh, very nice. Two things I'm fans of, for sure. But yeah, she has a cool little thing. You know, it's one of those, I think this is a nod to the OG Halloween to her getting murdered in all out of focus while the DJ is in the foreground. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because that's what goes on in the hot tub scene when the nurse or the guy gets killed before the nurse does. This is the, they're looking at the tower and he's explaining how he used to look at as a beacon, like maybe one day things will change or whatever. And then they come back, he comes back later as Michael to kill him. Because basically this is the last night. It's like, hey, tomorrow we're going to leave. Don't worry about it. You know what I mean? Like I'll meet you at the diner at 9 o'clock. After the cleansing. What did you say?

This is where he sleeps at the murder house and he wakes up and Jamie Lee Curtis is there. She's like, I'm still in this movie, by the way. Yeah, I'm still in this movie saying stupid shit. Like, there's two kinds of evil. And my character does make sense. Okay. It all makes sense. The other kind, Chris, is more insidious.

It lives inside of us. I see. I just, yeah, just look, I need a red pen for this script so bad. Like, nope, this goes. It's just so funny, though, because, like, I mean, look, I don't. I don't think it entirely works. I don't hate it as much. But it is interesting.

she's just spewing Lumis lines I don't think people would be having so much problems with it that guy was just named doctor he wasn't absolutely and she should have kept that one

they smashed the guy's head in the first one but like I thought he was a pretty fun doctor character right yes yeah the evil evil evil Loomis yeah the other Loomis knock off rage

Sir Bage yes yes but she's like I will help you stay away from my daughter. This is when Corey very clearly says if I can't have her, no one will. And then I guess like, Jamie Lucas pulls a Batman here. I don't know

what this Batmaning is. It's very dumb. But the thing that I think is interesting is he in that moment I feel is going to kill her. Because he turns around and she's gone and he's got the fire poker in his game. He's at a killer. Yeah, for sure.

Like straight up going to do it right there. I do like her also waking him up by just banging the back of the chair against the wall. Like, man, that would bother me. I'd wake right up. So then he has to go to the sewer. He's like, Mike, listen, it's been great. I do.

I think that I'm ready for this managerial position, dude. I think I'm ready for it. Yeah, just go. Just fine. Whatever. It's, by the way, to check a calendar. 1031, motherfucker. But fine.

Do whatever, man. This is my day. This is the Super Bowl of killing, dude. I mean, Thanksgiving's wide open, Pam. I mean, come on Thanksgiving. I get him on Halloween. You get them on Thanksgiving, dude. You'll be fun.

It's like, I'm Halloween and then you get the leftovers. Look, imagine this, Mike. You're chasing all these full people on Thanksgiving. You just had a big meal. Imagine all the terror puk that you're running around with. That's got to be fun, right? Do that core. Stop some tweets because they are making that Eli Roth,

the movie that no one wanted. Oh, yeah. By the way, well, I wanted it in 2003. Yes, whatever. It was 24 years old. We're doing a lot of that recently. A movie I wanted when it was like proper to be released

20 years later. Now I'm getting it. And I'm happy Avatar 2 is out and everything, but still. It is kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah. What was I going to say about thanks? Oh, stopping tweets just because while we're stopping other tweets, I know we didn't mention it back when we talked about

the Halloween party at the bar, but yes, we know that the flasher is Nick Castle see anything you like we know that it's him oh and you know again also yes 4th July there is a horror movie Uncle Sam stop some tweets pretty good that's a pretty good one actually I like that uncle

I've seen it twice now I'm not that big on it I feel like it's very stilted and badly acted but that's fine see the problem we're trying to make it graduation days you got to pick I mean there's so many graduation days it's not an actual graduation day

listen kid I'm just trying to no no go you're you want to take my shit so he but he does actually run away with the mask and Mike's like oh dude and here's the thing Michael if you're gonna start walking around like this you can't have this whisk these whiskers are so gross it's so I guess because it's the burned face as well so we grow it yeah it's real gross though isn't it yeah it's not a homeless man to shave you but so then he starts he goes on his own kill care he kills his mother I could have used more here I see really you know what as cool as the DJ's death is we didn't really talk about it but he's like bashing this dude's face against the turntable he cuts the dude's

tongue out while this guy is still a lot of puppet work here too it's really great you got to do this to the mother because the other thing that we don't there is such a weird Norman Bates moment over runs home for two seconds and she's like where are you going oh I'm sorry and she like

kisses this boy right on the lips in a very sexual way and then it's fucking hilarious they cut to the boyfriend or the stepdad or whatever and he's just looking at this guy's got such a horrible death and neither Corey or Michael kills him

but this guy's just like I hope you find love this is what he says to this is the nice this is the coolest dude in the entire friend absolutely he's like you know what I mean like he's really cool to Corey gives him a motorcycle he sees through his

his problems this moment most related I've ever seen. Yep. Big old fat guy watching Hard Target with headphones on. Absolutely.

I love it. Yes. Because now Corey had etched Psycho on the car of the marching band bullies. So now they are out

for blood and he leads them to the junkyard and they start trashing his bike. And then yes, the stepfather or whatever is watching hard target.

Just amazing. Like looking after you're like he's not doing any work. He's just like, got to get out of the house. Yeah, it is. The auto body shop is closed. I know no one will be there. I got to get it out of this house. I just saw my girlfriend kiss her son on the mouth. I have to go. I was talking to one of the other mechanics here. They were telling me about torrenting. You know you can download and watch movies on your computer. I got, I got a password for something called Carragaga. This guy just discovering the wonder of torrenting in his little junkyard office. In his last hours, yes.

You can get any Jean-Claude Van Damme movie you like. I mean, any one of them. It's a great part of a hard target, too, that car chase. It does the gun on the highway. I mean, it's kind of amazing. Like, someone at Paramount must have been like, do you really want to license? I mean, it's expensive

to license the footage. It's a three seconds. No, no, it's what the movie's about. Yeah, so yeah, he's watching a movie where dudes are getting killed with guns. He's going to get out and get killed by a gun, actually. So it sort of works. You know, it would be easier if we got, you know, even street fighter or like any other. It has

to be hard target. Yeah. So like these kids think that they're hot shit, but they're not because he kills the hard target by the way. Holy shit. I'm sorry, but hard target. A movie that does indeed involve hunting humans for sport. Indeed. Which is

what the two of them are kind of doing in this movie and I'm just realizing this now and that's awesome. So you know what? Really? Money will spend. Yeah, he stabbed. So, Corey, stabs that, probably the rapper or whatever. The mulleted kid. The single name fellow

fellow. Yeah, with like a screwdriver or something like that, right? The old eyeball. I think it's a drumstick. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. And he hit him with a golf club. So deals used to go golfing. He bugged her.

Is anyone bowling? Oh. Man, Homer fucking up scary stories is hilarious. But no, yeah, he kills that kid and then, yeah, this, the girl, the girl who's not super into it is like. Margo, by the way. Margo. She gets run over with the fence. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, they use a truck here, a tow truck, which is great. I mean, we're getting back to sort of the Michael Myers, like the jumpsuit type of thing. Yeah, totally. Like really getting back to the auto body shop. He's earning that jumpsuit. Terry, the, the shithead kid has a rifle. Yes. And he's aiming it at. Who is given to him, Bob. this father.

Oh, Ronald. Because he was watching a hard target and he's like, oh yeah, now you're the hard target motherfucker. Michael Myers, not tonight.

Yeah, let me ask a kid just between me and you, can you stand on a motorcycle while it's running? Can you, is there any way you could do that? Because that's,

we might have the key to this whole situation. He gets shot because, you know, Corey takes off the mask and he's like, Corey, and he stands up and then just boom.

He stands up to tell this guy not to shoot, core. This guy dies saving his shitty girlfriend's troubled son. He's the most honorable character I think possibly in slasher history. In heaven, he's going to be walking around.

He's like, wow, I thought, you know, Jeremy's not here at all. Roddo, we saw what you did down there. You get a special entry to super heaven. You get, it's you and Gandhi. Wow, you were in the middle of a Haddonfield Michael Myers attack. you died by getting shot in the head by someone else?

Gee, that's like dying of a heart attack in Harlem on 9-11. What are the odds? Now, I'm not going to sit here. Me, St. Peter, I'm not going to sit here and tell you, I think it was a little stupid what you did. Saving Corey. I mean, I love all my children mostly, but, you know. We get this, the Stacey character.

Stacey is like the one-to-one bully to Terry. Yeah. She gets, like, beaten with a. wrench and then the greatest thing ever is this dude terry comes out and he's like oh she's dead and this girl margot from under the gate and though like the fence chain link fence gate is just like and so are you and this kid turns a blowtorch on this other kid's throat and when i tell you my jaw was on the floor he turns to me to a jackalander basically it's a great kill it's all three here's the thing and the second movie not great either. All three of these movies have great

stupend his kills. And then he steps on that girl's head. That's what I was talking about. She gets the fucking double tap dude. It's like you got run over and the gate fell on you and then this dude smashed your skull. And that is a real, the old man's skull in Midsomar crack in under that boot too. You see it happen. It's great. Now Michael, again, I cannot stress how happy I am that you gave me your evil magic.

Can I step on a face and have a in a great. That's what I'm looking for. If I can have that power, that'd be great. And we've already talked about this where it kills the DJ. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty great. And then we get Jamie Lee Curtis is, uh, yeah, I'm going to be killing myself

today. Hello, police. She has a huge argument with Allison, Allison runs away. Like, you're, you know, blah, blah, blah, I never want to see you again. And she keeps texting, Corey, like, hey, man, you done murdering yet? Can we get out of here? Yeah, totally. She's like, we were supposed to be the shitty diner at 9 o'clock.

here you good blah blah blah also interesting thing here because i always hated it in the first two movies of alison just endlessly referring to laurie as a grandmother just addressing her as a grandmother one she doesn't say grandmother in this movie at all but also when lorry calls her on the phone it very much just says lorry there's no grandmother really a nice deed that speaks to the state of the relationship they're moving on uh but so yeah they they have this huge plot to which Lori does. She's drinking some whiskey. She's got a gun in the house. Bad combo guys. Bad combo. Absolutely. But it's weird though because it's like this is this scene watching it this time had me thinking about like she was literally laying in wait with this whole like Halloween can be celebrated in a fun way again. Right. mentality. Because like yeah, she calls in this like suicide but like you don't hear anybody pick up the phone. She's like, hi, I'd like to report a suicide. And then she has this whole like she shoots a gun, but. it's the Jackalander.

She actually did make the call, though, because Will Patton references later. Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. Which could just be to get to the cops there, though, because then she says, like, you honestly think I would kill myself. She knew Corey was in the house. There's also, by the way,

four to ten different endings that they shot for this movie because there's five screenwriters. And one of which she did kill herself. Not at that moment, I think, at the very end. Oh. She kills Michael. She kills her. She jumps into the Thresher.

Swan Dime. Hang, tell. everybody holds her nose. It just goes right in. Bloop. But yeah. One last Myers. Yeah. One more cheap. But she, this is when she fights Corey to his standstill. And like, you know, Corey says, you know, she beats the shit out of him.

They have more monologues about the nature of evil. My eyes are fluttering. I'm kind of tired. And then she says like, you know, he says, if I can't have her, no one will. He stabs himself in the throat. Rule number one to everybody ever. Never touch a knife that somebody kills. Just leave it alone.

She does the north by northwest. She's like holding it the same position too when like Allison opens the door. What? Oh crap. Mother. You just leave it alone. It's in there. You're not going to save. You don't want to save this kid either. Of course she walks in the door at that time. Yeah, exactly.

She killed him. Another like, how could you? There is a great like Andy Matichick just amidst this guttural just like roar at her, which I think is great because it's like, Words are failing me. I'm so fucking mad that you killed the one person that, like, gave a shit about me in the last four years or whatever. This man that I have loved for two days.

You monster. But now Michael Myers is, you know, finally showing up here and he gets the mask back. Yep. Here we go. And here we go. Showdown in the kitchen only, which is whatever. But, uh, well, the microwave dings and he's like, what? Hey.

Someone overcooking a burrito in here. She hits him with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty great. He takes the knitting needle and puts it in her ear. How do you like it? How do you like it? Dude, yeah, ear trauma, by the way, goof. What if I shot you in the eyes, huh?

Would you like that? That sounds like a nice way to have your night end? She puts the fridge on him. Basically, she ends up doing like every, like, she's like crucifying. It's a kitchen crucifixion. Yeah, stabbing his hands and hammering them in with a cast iron pot. Yeah, the hands. And then you get the feet are stuck.

I've always found the kitchen island's a bit cumbersome. But this actually is like, oh, I see why they have them. Yeah. Totally. You know, if you ever got to lay someone out really hardcore. You know what I use Kitchen Island for is to eat sushi off a naked woman. Is that true? No, I don't actually have a kitchen island.

You don't do that? No, well, I need to get the island first. You do have sushi. Step one, get island. It's just great to see you. It's possible. It is. Absolutely. And look, I appreciate the route she goes at the end of all of this. But really, once you have him in this situation here, all you need is a bowling ball. And you just need to keep pounding over every part of the body until it is meat and bone. That's all. Just keep smashing. You know how garlic turns into like a little bit of a liquid at the end stage? That's what you want to do. Well, this is her version of doing that because she's like slits his wrist.

to. Oh, yeah, throat slit also. Like, you're not a, I used to think you were the boogeyman. You're a guy who's about to die. That's kind of a good one. He cannot move. What the thing that this thing keeps doing is moving. So you need to extinguish that part. It's important to say that Alice does save her grandmother at the end. Like, it's about she comes in. I'm not going to let that happen. Yeah. And then, yeah, which is nice. And then like, yeah, we start, we're cutting the arms. It's getting kind of sensual. She's like sort of caressing his hand. Oh, yeah. Like, it's a good it's yeah i mean it's a it's an oddly complicated composition yeah i would really just start sawing on that head until it just removed you know what i mean and go full ec comics i have this thing

totally i mean we do get this gruesome idea of we're going to parade this corpse through the entire town yeah it's like you know because the one thing obviously the biggest thing the boogeyman is finally dead also the second thing of like and by the way look who fucking did it. Look who saved everybody. Please stop treating this family horrible. Yeah. As these like pariah.

Well, this is, I mean, but this is a mistake because they're doing this clearly to be like, look, it's all, there's no way. And you're pretending like not in five years and I'm being very optimistic there. Someone's going to be like, they faked it. Oh, absolutely. It was a little window and he dropped into a little room. Oh, isn't it convenient that you can't just. Zoom Michael Myers' corpse.

She was the only one who actually saw him get torn up. Oh, yeah, they buried Michael Myers at sea. Very convenient. Laurie Strode is a crisis actors. I mean, I had that thought because there was some, I don't know if it's

true or not, but there was something way back when a contract thing where Mustafa Akkad or his estate was like you can never actually kill him. He also jokingly one time answered the question how many you're going to make. He said 22. as a laugh. Whatever. I think what would be interesting, because you're right.

I mean, we live in commerce hell. We're going to make another one of these. Just make it. It's Michael Myers. It's nothing to do with Laurie Strode. It's completely different story. You can still just have your killer. Just a Halloween movie. Completely new setting, whatever. Or yeah, do the season of the witch thing.

Yeah. And just make a whole new thing call a Halloween, whatever. But I think like even at my most cynical, I don't believe that there's ever going to be a mention to like Lori strode ever again. I think you can keep that character and do something else. I hope not. And if they bring it back, you know, talking about season of the witch, they had some cool masks and that. They should get like that skull mask. That could be a new new boogerman. Give me a Tom

Atkinson mask. That would make me very happy. I do think that this is the best music that carpenter made for the movie, which is called the processional or the procession, yeah, when they're all going. And like, it's kind of great. These cops are like, yeah, I'm not into this. And the sheriff's like, it's just going to happen. Anyway, like, so I just feel like they all wrote like little letters of complaint. Like, last night I was very upset when we were through that guy into the thresher. The bummer is it's that like sheriff or whatever from the second and the first for the first two movies there who's not in this at all. And then just shows up with that cowboy hat, which is stupendous.

And it's great because yeah, the guys are like, you're saying right. Yeah. It's saying how things are done. And the sheriff just gets out of the car. He's like, tonight they are. I would like a trial for Michael Myers. Can we finally do it? Well, no, he's deemed insane.

That's the problem. I guess if you want to, but you're only getting him on the stand in the form of chipped beef. The only way I will end of this, this guy's got to be smushed. They grind them up. Come on, y'all. It's a good old-fashioned public mutilation. And everybody's happy to be there. Oh, yeah.

Andy hits the whir and Grind Town. You know, after the grind town there's like Allison's line of like, oh, you were right about Corey and just Jamie Lee Curtis Smith. Well, he was consumed by evil. So. Yeah. That's what I mean. And that's the problem is like Corey, once he's out of the movie, I'm like, well, what movie did I watch?

You know what I mean? Like, was this about the end of Michael Myers and the epic struggle between her and Lori or the Corey story? It's about the last line. Yeah. I do want it to be called the Corey story. Evil doesn't die. It changes shape. And I think that's what that's what we're saying here is like, you know, as long as you let evil sit around and not put it through a thresher,

that can transfer to other people. And then Laurie Strode gets in the car with James Kahn and the guys with the guns come out and fucking Haddonfield is gone. Oh, I wish. They break all of fucking all of that old ladies porcelad dolls. Yeah, the whole stage is fake blow. selling Scars Guard gone It would be great You make a real minimalist kind of movie like that

And it's still Halloween I like this Haddonfield But you filmed it in a high school gymnasium Yeah that's it I mean and like you know She has a nice moment And Allison leaves fucking town Thank you

You could be a nurse anywhere you want You know what I mean Or you could wait tables Or literally be anywhere Other than Haddenfield And you know for what it's worth this this final moment

of the ending yes is the right way to do this her committing suicide it's just like fuck come on the woman's been through enough I do also like the like the heart this is the heart back I actually like it like that even more last night which is you go through her house

but it's during the day and it's right and hopeful you know what I mean like very similar to the end of the original Halloween it's dark and gloomy and like yeah yeah totally I forget is she finishing writing at the end of here she does finish a horrible book and then there is a great line though where she's like Michael my you know with the town

extinguished Michael Myers that night or whatever it is she goes there would be no tombstone yeah the fuck out of here it's great well just like Hitler you know yeah totally can't do it but yeah I was trying to think if evil doesn't die change of shape that's in the book

I mean yeah so Frank just comes up with this like you know I guess he's got something left over from his farm subscription this week just gives her a bunch of groceries. He's got a CSA. Yeah, totally. I'm never going to go through all these veggies, Lori. You want some of them before they spoil and whatnot. Dude, we did a CSA last year, never

again. The amount of fucking apples in my house, they would just like they would insulate the box with apples like 12 apples a week. I didn't know you were an apple hater. Didn't know that. You, wait, okay. But you have to eat them to keep the doctor away. That's what they said. That's, yeah,

that's why I don't visit the doctor. I just got an apple. Honestly, they do, they do give you a lot with those shares. Yeah. So that makes sense. But you're supporting. Yeah. It's nice.

It's nice that Frank gives her all this. You know, he's like, I just want to check in. I want to thank you for what you did for the town. Fucking finally. Here, Laura, here's all these apples I have. I can't use it. Here's some carrots, some kale, a little bit of cabbage there. But don't worry, I line the box all with apples.

It's like 12 to 15 apples. what am I going to do with red of cabbage it's just it's insane I'm not make a co-slaw no man look at me Laura you don't want me eating cabbage and then it's like he's about to walk away and then she turns around and it's very nice and JLC totally delivers the line great too

she's just like what was that you were saying about the cherry blossoms and they sit down and it's just like man that's nice I'm glad she didn't die by a self-inflicted gunshot a bit of a downer yeah the most is like fucking no funeral tape to his back when he's in the stove. Oh, my God. Yeah, but that is the end of this movie.

Don't Fear the Reaper comes in. Nice little stitch together there. So everything back up. But all right. The DGG trilogy is over final thoughts. Chris Cabin. No, don't see it. Unless, I guess if you are really dedicated to this franchise, I guess you do have to see just because like it is taking a pretty bold move as we've discussed over this. But to me, like, even if there are like, and there are like scenes and elements of it that I like yeah it's all just kind of pulled in on it's like there's so much in the air that none of it comes through to me at least I like the will pat and Jamie Lee Curtis stuff I like I like there's scenes together are nice and tender but again I don't since there's Corey and the Corey romance and then Michael Michael Myers and then Michael

Myers and the Corey romance and then I'm just like I don't I don't care you've asked too much of me. It's just too much. So yeah, no. No from me. Eric Siska. Yeah, I mean, I guess you see your point. It's kind of overstuffed and the last movie was understuffed. But I think this movie's going to age pretty well. I think I could see people rediscovering it down the line. I would recommend it. And obviously, it's not the best Halloween movie. But I found the Corey's stuff kind of compelling. So I'm odd man out. Steven Zay that. I like it fine. I don't love it. I don't. I don't. I don't.

no, I can't get there. I can't recommend it. Sorry. I do think, I'm just thinking about it. I do think honestly, like this whole endeavor would have been better off. It was just 20, 2018's Halloween and we're done. I mean, nothing can work that way because we live in commerce hell. But like, I think that like actually the end of that movie when like they weren't really planning, they're like, hey, we'll just see how the movie is going to go. Like, you know, obviously might come back. But like the fact that it was a big trap and blah, blah, blah. And it's just the three women on the on the thing. very kind of Texas chainsaw you a little bit at the end on a truck together. Just hold it hands. It's like, wow, we made it through this crazy and terrible thing. And, you know, then the next movie happens and Judy Greer dies, then really don't give a shit. And then Corey shows up. It's just, I don't even think you need the last two movies. I think you're fine with Halloween 2018 and we're good to go. And that's a great, great horror movie in the last 10 to 15 years. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with that last part.

Because I am a person who never needs a trilogy. You could have just given me this. and it's fine and I did have my rantings about kills when it came out and admittedly sort of came around to that watching it again at last I mean I think it's I think first of all that it's the worst of the trilogy

I am a one three two guy I just I really hated the script of that one like the execution of all the the townspeople stuff and the evil dies and I've rehashed that I will say I would recommend this movie I think

I don't know I'm not saying anyone needs I don't think it's the mark of a successful movie that you should watch it three times and then it works for you. But again, like I said at the top, I expected things from this movie. And me personally, I do have a hard time

when I expect a movie to be one thing and it's not and I judge it for that. But watching it this time, knowing everything, I don't think it's perfect. It's bloated as fuck. It doesn't all work. I think there's enough in there that I would recommend it. But I think we talked about front loading

this movie in the first, whatever, 20 minutes. He finds Michael. in that sewer, kills him, takes the mask, we're on this Corey journey. It's a nice, untwist endingy, Roy the movie kind of thing. Yeah, totally.

And that's kind of cool. And it's just, yeah, like I said, it doesn't stick the landing, but it's better than I at least initially gave it credit for it. I mean, I think another situation which this might work better and would get rid of Michael Myers is if like it wasn't a Halloween, but like, sure. Just the same thing

as we talked about with the Jurassic World Dominion, if that's locust land, part one. I'm fine. Like, I'm Jurassic World Flea Circus, dude. Like, if it's a different kind of movie, I understand it. But like, because it's this kind of movie and you're taking so many huge swings

outside the box, it just it draws you away. And then in this case, they force you kind of to meld the two. That's the problem is we live in Commerce Hell. And the only way to tell it original story is you have to slap it somewhere in IP that already exists. It's the only way we could

do it now. And And it just, and the only way, but that, that sets up all these problems because you're not actually fulfilling what the IP is about and you have all these expectations about what the IP used to be and the yada, yada, yada at infinitum. Yeah, but like the Halloween franchise is probably the most scattershot crap. In the later sequels, hellraiser. Like, yeah, you don't need a trilogy and you didn't need any of all those crazy sequels. So I feel like one more on the barbie. Yeah, exactly. Like, what's one more?

What's one more, especially when, you know, frankly, it's far from the worst of them. I will agree with that. Sure. But we're going to cut it here. What a robust discussion here on we hate movies. I appreciate that. But if you want more we hate movies, of course, check out patreon.com slash we hate movies. A lot of bonus content up there this month, including We Love Movies on Top Gun Maverick.

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because it didn't do it right. It's the computer's problem every time. It is. There's a 5k. It's Day I gone amok. This is the fifth episode 5th week of January, not four. And we were talking about the movie that everyone's pointing fingers about, Black Adam.

I love a movie with a fucking, with a paper trail, dude. I still have not seen it, so I'm excited to dig it. I've already seen. I've already seen it, which means it'll be the second time. And I promise you, I will not be changing my mind about this. So until

next week, when we have one more chance to take a shot at Black Adam, I'm Andrew Corey, Steven Sadeg. Eric Corey. Chris Cappin. Take it easy, Corey. That was a hit gum podcast.