We Hate Movies - S13 Ep691: The Birdcage W❤️M (Live in New Brunswick, NJ)
Episode Date: August 15, 2023Recorded 6.15.23 at the State Theatre NJ in New Brunswick, NJ On this week’s Summer Break episode, the gang was in Jersey doing the first-ever official W❤️M live episode on Mike Nichol’s The ...Birdcage! How incredible are Williams and Lane in this? Did any of us actually sign on to look at Hank Azaria’s feet this much? And who knew Mike Nichols had such Sam Kinison-esque anger issues? PLUS: Flip flops to a funeral, Chris? Well, maybe Jimmy Buffet’s… The Birdcage stars Robin Williams, Nathan Lane, Gene Hackman, Dianne Wiest, Dan Futterman, Calista Flockheart, Hank Azaria, and Christine Baranski as Katharine Archer; directed by Mike Nichols. Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, starting as low as $3 a month! Be sure to get in early and get your tickets for the WHM Holiday Extravaganza where we’re talking The Santa Clause! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new Skeleton Juice, Spring Tour 2023, KONG & DILF Den designs! This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/whm and get on your way to being your best self. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So this is a rare one,
gang, this is a live episode
recorded a little earlier
this summer as a matter of fact
at the state theater, New Jersey, and beautiful
New Brunswick, New Jersey. Now this is
a live
we love movies episode. Wow,
all about the bird cage. That's right.
And it's very exciting. We got some
VHS trailer game live. We do.
Some in-studio audience support
there. You know, the audience, of course.
Yes, we all have a wonderful
anecdote that Steve shares about
an angry Mike Nichols. Oh, yeah.
A vindicated
Singing Dashboard Confessional
at his fucking top of his lungs.
But yeah, it was a lot of fun.
We almost didn't get into the theater.
There was a nasty car show outside.
Oh, so nasty.
Trying to obstruct.
But we got inside.
The fucking theater was beautiful.
You know, the lounge that we were playing into the theater.
Staff was great.
Great audience.
Fun time talking about a great movie live.
Yes.
Which, you know, we do so rarely.
And this is our first.
I mean, this is our first Robin,
Williams movie in forever for a good reason
and it's on a WLM feed
and you know it was a good way to do that
we've been wondering for the better part of
a decade now like how are we going to ease back
into it and what turned
out happening was to do WLM
where we're fucking celebrating it's but now we can do
bicentennial man also this has been
the long road to get the bicentennial
man flubber and a couple
other ones it's open season
on it now that we said some nice
stuff exactly
we've said our novenas you know
It's on the main feed
We'll just be like, hey listen
Every time we do a new
Williams episode
Be like hey listen
Listen to the bird cage first
And now we're going to have a little bit of fun
And now get back into it
That's right
So here we go
State Theater New Jersey
New Brunswick, New Jersey
We love movies
All About the Birdcage
Enjoy
So, I'm going to be able to be you.
Hello, everyone.
All right.
We've been waiting a long time to do this.
Jersey, what is happening?
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Thank you for all coming out to this,
despite the counter-protesters across the street.
Yes.
With the straight pride parade
That is the car show
I think that's what car shows are
Yeah
These pro Buick people
I hate them
If you want to see
David Bowie's music
Butchered the kingdom
Come
Come to the New Brunswick
Car Show
The same cover band
Can't do Neil Diamond
And fucking Bowie
Okay
No
No
That's two separate
Let's get on fucking theme
Folks
So says you
He's a open thinker
Over there
Free Thinker
You want to do Dion and the Bell
Mount's fucking fine, dude.
Sure.
Hey, happy pride, y'all.
Yeah.
Do we have any
Kennedys here tonight?
Or any Kennedys in the room?
The younger one's Teddy.
Did we get Teddy from the grave?
I don't know, dude.
I'm not sitting next to a Kennedy
if I could avoid it.
That's a black cloud over that family.
No, I know, dude.
You don't get the car or a plane with those people.
There'd be a red mist all of you
if you sat next to a Kennedy too long.
Exactly.
I don't understand the gag there
where Robin Williams is like
bummed that it's not Ted Kennedy
I think it's a drinking joke
I think it's like oh there it is
famous boozehound not so much sex symbol
got it got it
I mean RFK Jr. and JFK Jr., which I assume
are the two younger Kennedys there
hanging out for the time there
I mean they only hate vaccines
so or at least we'll have them
well one's been dead for 20 years
I assume his ghost is against him
there's what Joe Kennedy the third and he hated
marijuana. He thought it was scary.
Yes, he did. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he had a bench sign
saying that, too. This is what you all came here
for, right? The fucking Kennedy family tree.
Yes.
We're just recalling.
Now we'll map out how Arnold Schwarzenegger
comes into the picture.
He married one of them. Let's start the show.
He comes into the picture all right.
I'm coming into the picture
at the gym. I'm coming through the picture on the beach.
Did you watch that Arnold documentary, that
clip that we've been talking about for 10 years?
all over it, and it's hilarious.
It's the best.
I love these chairs, by the way.
I feel like I'm fucking Dick Cavett with these stuff.
Yeah, it's nice.
They knew we were coming.
I do feel like we should be smoking, though,
like pivoting and smoking.
And we're just like, so what do you think about?
Vandies.
Oh, man.
I am so happy to be here.
Thanks so much for coming out, everybody.
Let me ask you this,
how many y'all are familiar with the show
we run on the internet?
Oh, right.
Well, thank you.
Well, this is pretty much that, but in 3D.
Too many dimensions.
We were against it at first, being alive in front of an audience.
We were like, you know what?
They should be disgusted, too.
Not just us.
What was I going to say about this?
Well, this is very special, too, because, you know, this is a pride show.
We're all here feeling the love.
So this is technically the first ever official we love movies episode that we've done.
Yes.
though, you know, if you came here thinking like,
oh man, are they really going to be ragging on the bird cage?
No, we're going to be celebrating the bird cage
while also making fun of parts of it.
There's a few things.
Have you heard about this guy, Val?
Oh, my God.
You mean cinema's greatest villain?
Yeah.
This fucking kid.
Now, before we get too far into that,
I want to do something really quickly.
Uh-huh.
I'd like to play the VHS trailer game really quickly.
That is right.
America's
favorite game
about obsolete materials
I'm just rolling around
so much fun
you can keep rolling
because I'm not playing
you're not going to play
I'm not playing
no you know because like
it's so awful
like playing it in the studio
I think we should leave it up
to some fine folks out here
what do you think
some of y'all want to play
the VHS trailer game
put your hands in the air
yeah
we're gonna
anyone who
all right let's see
what was there a stipulation here
no anyone who wants to do it
I mean I'm not gonna have a fucking
gun to somebody's name
What the fuck?
All right.
Dude in the mask, most definitely.
Let's see who we here.
How about, yes, you ma'am right in front of him.
And right here, front row.
Yeah, glasses.
There we go.
Clear frame glasses.
Come on up here.
Pick your seats.
Welcome, take a seat.
Well, choose your champion.
Who do you want to play for?
That's true.
You play for me?
You're playing for me.
All right, there we go.
There we go.
There we go.
The way this works is you're going to be playing for the person
sitting behind you.
They'll be holding the microphone.
This is a VHS trailer.
more. I'm going to just kind of give you
some clues on some movies. And usually
it's trailers from the movie
at hand, but actually considering the event
and what we're at, these will be
basically big queer movies of the
90s. So keep big queer movies
of the 1990s, not the 1890s.
No. There's a few of those, too.
Only one or two of them.
None released on VHS though.
But let's see who we're talking to
today, Andrew. Hi, what's your name?
Kate. And what do you do for a living?
I'm a software engineer.
Software engineer, like games, like fun stuff?
No, library applications.
Oh, so absolutely not.
No, that's very cool.
That's fun.
No, but it's not a game.
It's serious business.
Well, we go from Doom to the Dewey desk.
I thought Doom sounded like Dewey, but it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
They're almost there.
Stretching it.
Now, do you play the VHS trailer game along at home?
Yes.
And how do we do?
About 50-50.
All right, better than me?
Better than me?
So I like those odds.
Excellent.
That's fair.
What's your name?
Allison.
And what do you do for a living?
I'm a software engineer.
All right.
Wait a minute.
Is there a conference?
Is that where we are right now?
All right now, sir, what is your name?
And what do you do for a living?
Is it software?
Pretty close.
I'm Matt, and I do data and IT for non-profit arts organization.
Okay.
All right.
That's awesome.
Nice.
Oh, actually, we don't know.
A man in the middle.
Do you work for the United States government and, like, shooting people and stuff?
Is that your software?
Drone warfare?
Oh, Internet.
Okay, that's good.
But this is great.
We got some egg heads up here.
I'm feeling reinvigorated about the VAT.
That's right.
Maybe by the end of this, I won't be in last place.
So the way it's going to work is I'm going to start reading a clue.
There's going to be five clues.
The first clues were five points, four points, three points, two points, one point.
And when and if you think you know the answer, you should raise your hand like you're in school.
And, I mean, these eggheads know that about, you know, huh, uh, what?
What?
We tried very hard to scam everybody.
for me to give all the answers to Allison here.
It didn't go through.
It was a different person.
I knew it.
But if you guess incorrectly in that one round,
you're out of that one round.
You can come back to the next round.
There will be four rounds.
Again, big queer movies in the 1990s.
Here we go.
Round one.
Game Masters clue.
Love it.
This road movie with a mouthful of a title
finds
Priscilla Queen of the Desert
It is not
Adventures of
Adventures of Priscilla
King of the Desert
It's not Adventures
It's Matt
To Wong Fu
Thanks for everything
Julie Newman
That is correct
There was
It's really
It's a
That's the thing
At the end of
At the end of the clue
It's a middle American
And that would have cut you out
Because basically
There's only two
It's a coin flip
So that's one
Congratulations to Matt
Five big points
For Eric Sis
I love this.
Team Cisca.
There you go.
Team Cisca.
It's the only way he gets points.
That's right.
Round two, here it comes again.
Game Master's Clue.
Make sure your parents are asleep when you're watching this one.
A steamy neo-noir where two women meet fall in love and turn the tables on the mom.
Matt again.
Bound.
It is bound for five more things.
Oh, shit, Chris.
Let it be known.
that Eric Siska is down with
OPP other people's
points. That's right.
That's right. And Pee-P. See me after the show.
And round three
from 1998.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, what is this?
It's another, it's a...
Game Master's Clue!
See? It's important.
I'm just to do too comfortable in this chair.
A legendary rock stars
life and career are reimagined
after the filmmaker couldn't get the rights
to the songs to highlight
his possible slash more than likely
romantic relationships with other male
rock legends. A legendary
rock star's life and career are
reimagined after they couldn't get
the rights to his songs to highlight
his possible slash more than likely
romantic relationships with other
rock legends 1998.
I love people in the audience
are raising their hand.
Sorry, but no.
Apologies, we will be not calling on anybody.
All right, we're going to.
But over there knows it big time.
It's a tough one, though.
It's a tough one.
Tribune trivia.
This is that for four more points.
This film structure, a journalist tries to figure out a mystery concerning a cultural icon through research, through research and interviews with those who knew him, is taken directly from Citizen Kane.
So it's like a Citizen Kane riff, rock star, queer movie.
Okay.
There we go.
I just figured it out.
There we go.
Tagline, the secret to becoming a star
is knowing how to behave like one.
That doesn't help anybody, doesn't it?
The tagline never actually helps anybody.
Here's star number two.
Jonathan Reese Myers is in this movie.
Yep.
Velvet Goldmine?
It is Velvet Goldmore for two big points.
There we go.
My wife's favorite.
movie. That's why I threw that in there. It's a good one.
It is. Good music, too.
It is. And now for the final round, thank you all
for playing. By the way, don't rush off the stage.
We have goodies for folks.
From 1997,
I keep forgetting to do it. Dude, God damn.
Who are you? I thought the game was over. Game Master's
clue. A wacky
comedy where a small town teacher has
his life upside out. I saw
Matt. I'm sorry. I had to do it. Inside out.
It is inside out.
No, it's not.
Incorrect.
In and out.
In it out.
Yes.
And I love that.
Look at that.
That's five points.
Five points for Chris Cabin.
I love that.
Everybody got something right.
Everybody feels great.
That's awesome.
That's why everybody gets a prize.
The tradition of we hate movies prize giving.
It's a real here.
You throw this out.
Matt, as you had many, you get both, you get a Blu-ray of no-ray home from Spider-Man.
Not from.
Spider-Man gave you no way home.
No, this is.
is we had movies memorabilia, we watch this
to do our commentary track. So that'll
be worth nothing in a day or two. And
everyone gets a signed VHS.
Matt, you get to pick yours. These are all episodes
we've done. We've got kindergarten cops
Simone and Rambo 3.
Yes.
Yeah, you got to do it, dude.
It's a real step. I knew Simone would be the last
one, but it's still a good movie.
Round of applause for all of our contestants, folks.
Thank you. Thank you. Thanks so much
for playing. Thank you.
You guys are great. Thank you so much.
Well, well, well.
So we're here to talk about game shows.
Yes, we are.
Of different game shows.
Pat Sajak retiring.
It's happening, folks.
There's someone in the wings, maybe.
Similar name.
Similar name.
Oh, that's true.
They'd barely have to, like, you know,
respell the merchandise and whatnot.
So Pat Sajak absconded with the fortune.
We'll see what happens.
Add a D in there.
Just put a,
Sharpie D and all the all the
memorabilia we got. Yeah, exactly. That works. It'll work.
Don't worry about it. So we are
indeed here to talk about the birdcage
from 1996 directed by Mike
Nichols, if I can untangle myself.
There we go. Quick question.
How many of you all saw this before the show
this evening? A lot of folks.
Everybody's seen this. Come on,
right? Everybody saw this movie, I feel.
Well, you just, you want to ask, you know,
because it's just going to be spoiled for you right now.
It's true. That's all.
It's true. Here's a place
to start, because I was blown away
by this. Okay. You guys catch
the photo section on IMDB
for this movie? I missed it. No, no,
no, no. Well, I'm a real thorough kind of
fellow, you know, so I was checking it
out, and you figure, like, wow,
you know, directed by the legendary Mike Nichols
written by the legendary Elaine May,
legendary cast,
such as it is, you know, all these
great opportunities for production stills
and behind the scenes, you know,
glimpses and whatnot.
90% of that shit
is screen grabs
of the standard deaf DVD
interactive menu?
We need to get moderators
on this website, folks.
Is it like where they,
it's like screen grabs up like
the biography section?
Dude, it is that, but it's all,
it's like a walkthrough.
It's like picture one,
the menu.
Picture two, this is me
selecting talent bios.
Picture three, the list
of the talent bios.
It's like real worthless shit that should not be taking up space on the internet.
Back of the day, people were afraid of DVDs.
You know, you'd walk them through, like, it's okay.
Very scary stuff.
The Terminator 2-1?
It's absolutely petrifying.
All the flames and stuff, I thought that she was going to come right out.
I thought the robots were inside the TV coming to get me when I put that on.
Every time.
It's scary as hell.
I wouldn't mind an animated menu, but I'm just saying, you know,
I don't need a picture of what the DVD looks like on IMDB.
Maybe that's one of some of our computer programmer.
friends can figure out how to fix
the IMDB. You'd become a billionaire overnight.
Now, my favorite piece of trivia
on IMDB, not to make this the whole IMDB
thing, but I love this so much.
After Mike Nichols showed the final cut to the
editing team in Martha's Vineyard, they all
had a celebratory meal. Mike Nichols
said, I was very emotional and
angry. I couldn't
speak to the lunch. The film
is so good, so strong.
I realized I had no inkling of
my anger towards those people who had written me
off. My reaction was
instantaneously was
fuck you, you bastards.
You thought I couldn't do this anymore?
Well, look at this.
I love the idea of making the bird cage
is a really positive and fun.
We're like, fuck you!
I did it.
See, it's fucking good.
I'm good, you piece of shit.
What you think you are?
I am.
I live this and I'm Mike fucking Nichols.
It is amazing.
Because Mike Nichols is a very like suit and tie guy,
like a very buttoned up humor.
and just to think of him going
Sam Kinnison
for a moment
just to tell everybody
fuck you
I mean it's just
it's beautiful
Seating with rage about
I don't even know
like a one thumb down
review of working girl
doing like motherfucker
yes it is a beautiful
celebration to the community
oh oh oh
I guess we don't
we don't like Melanie Griffith now
I guess we just don't like
Melanie Griffith now
yeah fun I'm glad Gene Siskel is dead
there I said it
there I said it
at this Martha's Vineyard lunch
that I'm scorned
screaming at.
And you just,
you know,
Elaine May was like right there,
okay, Mike,
that's,
Mike, that's enough.
Okay.
Let's go back to the house,
do some improv,
calm you down and get you to bed.
Put on some jazz.
You know,
all your movies are out on DVD,
but the Heartbreak Kid
is going to be hard to find
in 30 years.
Ah!
Do they have interactive menus?
There's our talent bios.
There isn't a picture of me
behind the camera,
but there's a fucking interactive menu picture.
Ah!
Okay, Mike.
Okay.
That's good.
I didn't know that dude was so tightly wound.
Maybe we switch to water now.
Any more salvin?
Yeah, I want more fucking salad because I made the bird cage.
God damn it!
You don't know what that is because it's not out yet.
This is just a rough cut, but it's an amazing rough cut.
All right.
You know what?
I'm going to leave now and give the servers a tip now just to make sure nothing happens at the end of this.
Thank you for attending this small friends and family screening.
Fuck off!
that's great
not what I expected from Mike Nichols
honestly don't
no real unhinged lunatic
apparently
but we do
we start the movie
and there's a good push in
on South Beach
and we get to know
the birdcage
this club that
the Coleman's or the Goldman
Steve
it's the goldmans
if you're not
anti-Semitic
but if you are
and you're afraid of that
you have to say Coleman
for some reason
I am also a huge
rube anytime like
the next
name of the movie is the place we're going to?
I'm like, that's the name with the movie.
And it's also the bird cage too.
Oh, so like when they pull up to the garage and reservoir dogs, and it's like,
reservoir dogs auto body, you're like, oh.
That's right there.
Oh, my God, they are all good fellas.
Holy shit.
Oh, wow.
He's the citizen cane.
Oh, my, oh, my God.
That's the rock that they're going to.
Exactly.
He said, he just, Sean Connery, welcome to me to the movie.
Oh, wow, they are the Ghostbusters.
You know, technically, I think that missile is the broken arrow.
For some reason, the only example I can think of is the bridge,
which is a grim documentary.
Yeah, it's pretty grim.
That was the only thing that was coming to mind.
I still got Mike Nichols yelling in my ear.
You know, here's something about that shot.
He's the graduate.
That's right.
There you go.
They all have carnal knowledge.
Yeah, they all do have car.
And in the end, we all had carnal knowledge.
Now, that shot's cool.
You know, it's one of those fake, like,
it's supposed to be like a single take thing,
which is fine.
And you're seeing, like, you know,
beautiful Florida, you know,
and all the cool lights and everything.
And I absolutely love how this shot
is kind of totally ruined
by the disgusting, blocky, yellow font.
Like it's a DVD with bad subtitles
Like poor choice for this
It's disgusting
Well you want to know that it's a show
Right it's in big lights like that
You want to know you're about to watch a big show
So I think it was just a stupid decision
That they shouldn't have done
But no it's terrible
I do love like the opening
Like 15ish minutes feels like a play
You know we're really really close in
And like we're following
Steve
It was a play
Oh my God
That's even better
So, because it was, it's a remake, right?
It is, it's, well, it was a play first, and then they made it in France.
La Cajah, what I, as an idiot kid, was calling the Cage of Fools.
La Cajal Fault.
Cage, cage, fools.
And it was a big hit in like 78, I want to say.
And this was a part, of course, of this run of after three men and a baby, French movies being
remade by everyone.
You got to do it.
was one of the better
this and true lies
two of the better ones honestly
yeah because a lot of the times
the sense of humor
doesn't really translate
like my father the hero
yikes you know over there
they find you know
all of that real hilarious
I'm gonna
I'm gonna shock you here
the French version of this
has a lot more race stuff
that you don't want to import over there
I know very surprising very surprising
it's funny because the I believe
I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry
was an Australian remake which is
Oh, no.
It's very instructive.
No, no, I'm serious.
Oh, really?
I didn't know.
I think it was a Paul Hogan movie.
And it was called a little clossa to marriage.
A clausa?
But I mean, if you're trying to make like a movie about gay rights or whatever about gay couples,
I would much rather it be from France than fucking Australia.
I'll be honest with you.
Ooh.
It's a tall order.
Yeah, Mel Gibson.
They don't even play football right down there.
They do not.
They play the other kind.
but yeah so like we're we're used to robin williams uh the late great robin williams
el yeah armand goldman actually
what the scheme like
how does this work you do you think your daughter's marrying coleman
and then suddenly her name is goldman or don't that's none of this may i mean it's
far so it's not you can't hold it too much too sure but still i guess yeah you're
going to get married to this guy and like oh wait no i'm looking at the certificate says
Goldman right here. Well, at that
point, you know, all the deposits have been put
down and whatnot. I see. Yeah. It's all about the
money, getting the money out of the account
first. Exactly. You want to get Hackman to write that check,
you know. Well, I love
about this opening also is that it's all about
professionalism. It's about showing
how good Robin Williams is at
his job and like running these people
getting like, and it's
amazing because this is when the complication comes in
that Albert or Starina
is not going to come down.
And like, you would
think that they're just going to go over the top all the place,
but it's no, it's all very like showmanship,
showmanship, showmanship. He has the
great, great reaction, though,
because we're doing this like really long
tracking shot once you get into the club and you're
following him and he's like schmoozing and doing
the whole thing, the bit where he opens
the kitchen door and the dude has just dropped
the chicken on the floor. And he's
putting it back on the plate.
Eric, was your skin crawling?
Yes.
This is how it happens. This is how it happens.
That's how it starts.
the food preparation, there's problems going on.
Especially people you may know and think is fine.
They've got weird ideas.
You see this video on the internet?
There's a lady, she cracks an egg and drops it on the counter.
She sucks it up with her mouth.
What?
And spits it into the pants.
Is this a porn hub tab?
I was going to say, well, what are you going to click on to get to that?
This is just what my mentions are.
Of course.
You're just sending me this stuff.
The algorithm thinks you're a real sick fuck, dude.
Eric, check this out.
Oh, my God.
Wait, so is it like the scene from Tampopo when, like, she puts the egg yolk in her mouth and then, like, she and the dude are, like, going back and forth, like, snowballing the egg yolk.
Hey.
Don't try to make this reasonable.
This is insane.
Tampopo, listen, Tampopo, amazing film from Japan from, like, the 80s or so.
You will be hungry at the end of that movie.
But they snowballing egg yolk in a sexy.
So to answer your question, unfortunately, no.
I really would have liked an interplay there with another character.
But it was just a lady just, like, sucking up eggs off the countertop and spinning them into the pan.
To what end?
To cook dinner.
Oh, no.
For her baby birds?
For you.
A spit omelet.
Okay.
That's what they're doing at Denny's when you order the fucking Homestar Omelet, man.
Yeah, that's the Grand Slam gag and barf, dude.
That's what that is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's not coming down and we're, you know, we notice very quickly as a drag club and, like, you know, and Robnullie's.
has to go up there and, like, kind of fix the situation.
We do with it. You got to point it out, folks.
As greatest of this movie is, the like in-between act while, you know, he doesn't want
to come downstairs, all these people are getting dressed up in some Native American headdresses
that it's not flying these days, I got to be honest with you.
And, yeah, Rob Wilson said, and now the eighth wonder of the world, King Kong.
Be great if King Kong was there.
Oh, totally.
Drag show and the greatest show you'll ever see because it's,
an enormous ape.
Carl Denham's giant monster.
So when you were watching that movie
was the ape,
all that's King Kong
was the show.
That's King Kong.
That's the greatest show on earth.
Also, by the way,
King Kong had a drag show.
You put a wig on that guy.
You know, now we're having fun.
I'd watch it.
Not only are you watching an ape,
the world's largest ape,
but that largest ape is serving.
You know what I mean?
So that's kind of cool.
Well, that's what's going to happen
eventually because you start off
and it's like,
oh my god the biggest tape ever and then six months later now the biggest tape yeah exactly you got to
start doing new things give him a sword give him a wig there's all kinds of things you can do
we uh we also meet uh the great hank azaria's agador here oh man he's funny in this movie but
here's the beef i got with his area a couple things in this movie one you forget that you
have signed on to look at hankazaria's feet like 90% of the time
it's not too bad pretty good i got to say they're not bad but i got a feeling these are
some shaved feet dude. I feel like this
dude's really hobbiting it up.
Off screen. But also the other thing... You got stolen valor
shaving your feet? Yeah, I do. I do. Because I got to
walk around with hobbit feet. You got to walk around with
Hobbit feet. I did... I shaved my feet once. And then I was like,
am I going to do this all the time?
For who? For a funeral?
Yeah, it was a sort of... For a few... What are you
wearing fucking flip-flops to a funeral?
Depend on who it is? For a funeral.
We now lay Jimmy Buffer.
to rest.
May he have a
forever a cheeseburger in paradise
everlasting.
He would have wanted it this way.
You yell at me, but he would have wanted
it this way. Dary a hard shoe
at that funeral. Dary a hard
shoe. Hey, Bubba, if I sense
a single shoelace in my funeral,
you're getting haunted from above, man.
I don't know if that's a Jimmy Buffett
impression or not, but I figured why not?
Close enough. Oh, the other thing about
Azaria, right? So, like, incredibly gifted
comedian, incredibly gifted
voice actor, you get to see how great he is doing physical
comedy in this movie. This movie, on the
whole, is a fucking masterclass
in physical comedy.
Why does this dude have to be so
goddamn sexy on top of it all?
He's just cut.
There's the scene where he's out cleaning the
pool and the fucking banana hammock, and I'm
like, you voice most is
like, you don't need an ass like that.
Yeah, by the way, what the fuck?
It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel right.
I mean, this, the Apu thing.
And Mo Cis-Lak, that's pole face, folks.
I should be voicing.
S-Z-Y, S-Z-Y, S-C-C-S-Z-Y.
Put me on the Simpsons.
What are we doing?
This has been years, Eric, yelling about this.
This is his little hobby horse.
Both of you plan on sticking your head in the oven with a sign on the bag that says no funeral.
I just imagine, like, you know, like, stole my bit.
Get Castell and I, like, checking into the booth, like, he lost three pounds.
and he's like, oh, I'm feeling pretty good about myself.
And then fucking Hank Azaria shows.
I'm like, fuck that guy.
He's like, watch me do Clancy Wiggum with my fucking sick abs.
And he might be an immortal, too, right?
Like, he's still looking so good.
Oh, well, that's just, you know, you got all the money in the world, man.
You can pay to pickle yourself like that.
That's what I want for me.
I mean, that's the thing is like, if he starts taking it off in the idol, that might actually fix the show.
If I get to start seeing Hank Azaria naked, that might do it.
What is he doing on that show now?
He's like...
Sexy teacher?
Is it a pervert?
Pervert?
Pervert?
Pervert?
I feel a little overwhelmed.
Teacher pervert?
No.
They exist.
No, just like a father figure, I guess.
Father figure.
To whom?
To Lily Rose Depp.
Oh.
Him and Jane Adams are manager.
So not doing a great job, you're saying.
No, not so great.
That's why I'm saying, hey, get him naked.
Maybe we got something going here.
Is he putting a voice on in that show?
Wait a little bit.
Like what?
but I don't want to do it in front of people.
He's an expert. I am me.
All right. No, fair enough. I was just curious because, you know, I'll never watch it.
Well, that's good for you.
So Armand is trying to get Starina down to do the show.
And she's upset because she believes he's cheating on her because he is chilling wine and didn't tell her why, essentially.
They only drink red wine. This is white wine, et cetera, et cetera.
Tannins!
And this is all, by the.
way, it starts even before
he shows up. Val
is fucking everything up.
Val is being an asshole.
He is so
lucky he wrote Capote.
Woo boy. Woo. Boy.
Because otherwise I would have like
a John Malgavich
like headshot on a dartboard
with gunshots in it.
Like just absolutely I would never forget
him. To ask them to rearrange their whole lives
and lie for nothing. Because you know
what, you know, after they're married, then
you know, it's all going to come out.
You know what I mean?
Like, once, it's going to keep happening.
The marriage isn't going to last, by the way.
Like, I know they made like a film sequel to the La Cajafo.
They didn't do a sequel to this, but if they did, him and Callista Flockhart are no more.
Oh, no, not at all.
But you are totally right.
He's Dan stick to screenwriting Futterman playing Max here.
But he's very pretty.
He's cute in this role.
He looks a floppy hair.
I wish I had a son to swap with Armand.
My lord.
he's a handsome man
he is a very handsome man
I do think they should have kept
at the end
everybody knows
they play the wedding
during the credits
I actually think
they should have kept the wedding
in play the divorce
there it is
there it is
then we've got something going there
we aren't family
sign this paper
and I'll be free
I got all my lawyers
with me
Armand's just
just standing there
I told you
I fucking told you, then I.
I did all that shit for nothing.
But here's the thing, though, is I have a lot of experience in.
It is possible to open two bottles of wine at the same time.
And so what is it?
This motherfucker's like, you know, hey, pop, I'm coming home.
And I fucking swear to God if there's a red wine that's open.
Exactly.
I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.
He goes through the fucking deal of getting this white wine and then the son of a bitch shows up.
You got a beer?
Yeah.
Hey, you want to get me a beer?
I'm in college now. You got a beer.
A Miller Light, if you would.
But in this scene, obviously, starring
up played by the great Nathan Lane.
Hell yeah. The best.
Fantastic. Yeah, you can give it up for Nathan Lane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude rules.
Dude rules.
And this was like his kind of, like,
I mean, he'd been in stuff,
but like this was like his big kind of coming out thing.
Like, obviously the Timoan role is great,
but like he's not actually a mere cat, you see.
Wait, what?
I know. I know.
Like, you know, he kept getting offered these
mere cat manner rolls he's like no
I'm a man I'm a short
man that is some great brand
synergy though if you had that motherfucking narrate
some mere cat manner
that'd be kind of cool I just
I would love if he's going through
like the interview circuit like they always do
and he says like now for
this has to be the dozenth time
I'm not actually a mere cat
I've been answering these questions
for a month now
could you please not ask that again
I don't live in the ground
I always really loved him in the NyQuil commercials
Oh, right, yes.
There was a series of NyQuil commercials
in the early 90s and he's going to his neighbor's doors
and he's like, oh, I can't sleep.
And it's fun.
It's a good performance.
I believed he was sick.
And I mean, of course, we're talking about
NyQuil commercials and fucking Mere Cat voices,
but he was a huge theater star.
Oh, of course.
Yeah. This was his big Hollywood
IRL break, playing a real-life
person.
It was not a mirror.
Not a cartoon.
And, you know, he's
freaking out about, you know,
believing that his lover is having an affair.
He wants palimony papers.
He wants all sorts of things.
It is odd how they play this.
Where, like, when Val enters
and, you know, he doesn't
immediately say, hey, dad.
And it's a lot of, like, a hug and a kiss.
And we're stroking faces.
And then it's like, hey, pop.
And I was like, why would you bother doing that,
that's kind of weird.
But the last guy
that didn't read the synopsis before getting the movie?
Wait a minute!
Well, they do that.
It's the weirder thing they do in the original
is that there is this
very long gag, quote unquote,
where you're not sure if it's the lover or not.
He actually, like, for a minute,
you're supposed to think this is his boyfriend.
Got it.
And this one, you're just like, oh, no, that's his son.
Very clearly.
We're not going to be doing that.
No, no, no.
Well, that's what I'm saying,
though.
The movie does kind of do that,
so the French one must be, like,
incredibly drawn out.
That one was extremely, this one, I was just like, of course not.
French kissing, French kissing, but the son?
No.
Well, it's a French movie.
I mean, maybe during the French cut.
That's how they kiss everywhere.
Yeah, they kiss everything.
That's how they kiss.
That's how the French kiss.
One of the things when Armand is trying to get it to go downstairs,
Nathan Lane whips out like this old ass, like World War II electric shaver.
Oh, yes.
Go into town on his face in his chest.
And I was like, dude, those things make you bleed.
Like, you really got to be.
careful with that shit. It's the, the razor bugs bunny would use if he was going to
shape. You know what I mean? Like, it's not a razor that like an adult that
in the 90s would have used. Yeah, springs are coming out of it. And I mean,
the folly is so good here. Like, I just, I remember that noise and my father
using those razors and like, I was screaming inside. What I love about the
relationship between Armand and Albert Serena is
that there is this, I wish we saw it. There is like what is clearly
a war between Starina and
Carmen.
Oh yeah.
Because like all fucking Armand
has to be like, you know what?
Put Carmen on.
And she's like, nope.
No, fuck that.
Fuck that shit.
I don't care if you're fucking some kid.
I don't care.
Fuck Carmen.
I'm at it.
I'm down there.
There's another world where this movie's just about the
goings on of the actual bird cage
and it's almost just as good.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Just the day to day.
You know, if like we remade this as like a max
television series or something.
Give them time.
Yeah, no, I know.
You know, it would be funny.
If you remade this movie,
now it would be woke.
You know?
Because it's the same fucking thing,
but now it's woke.
Man, don't you just want to flush
those fucking people down the toilet?
The only way it wouldn't be woke.
That's right.
What the fuck?
Is if Gene Hackman
burn the house down with everybody inside,
then it wouldn't be a woke movie.
Because of these people are allowed to live
and exist and have feelings and thoughts,
now it's woke
Starina makes his grand entrance
right and she's dressed like
fucking Whoopi Goldberg on Star Trek
the next generation
with this incredible
like it's like a purple and black
like mushroom hat it's awesome
and you know she comes down the stairs
you know starts singing some Sonheim
here and I'm
totally distracted because they cut to the audience
and there's you catch this
an extra alert I always got to call
this out when I see it you catch this guy
that's sitting front and center?
No.
Just this grade A American
fucking Kentucky Waterfall
coming up.
Just a mullet to beat the band, dude.
You know, maybe he came from like
Northern Florida and came down.
Oh, totally.
Yeah.
That's a panhandle special.
That's what that guy's got.
We usually don't let these in,
but you know what?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's try a little bit.
It's a funny gag
because he keeps looking over at Robin Williams
because like the second you,
you know, I go on stage,
you're going to go to whomever
you're going to go to see.
He's like, no, no, no, no.
at all.
And obviously he's going to do that.
It's funny.
It's humorous.
This is the introduction of the great, I mean, you sort of meet him when they're trying
to get Starryan Integran downstairs, but this is Azaria in this like strawberry pink wig.
Yes.
Singing Miami Sound Machine.
It's so fucking funny.
Well, earlier, he gives Albert pills because it's like, oh, it's like this whole like great,
like this great performer, like, oh, she's going to get strung out of these pills.
But the joke is they're just aspirin.
You can't be just giving people
too much aspirin either, Hank Gazzeria.
You know what I mean?
No, I get it, man.
But, you know, Agadour does specify
like you have one before the show.
Two aspirin in a night.
You're all right.
Yeah, I guess so.
It's a party drug, you know,
and then the morning you feel better
after you take it.
I mean, there's also the problem.
He's looked on Epto-Ismal.
It's really hard stuff.
Now I'm just thinking
an ecto cooler and I'm thirsty as fuck
for that green fruit juice.
Dude, imagine your stomach was always coated.
Just always.
I could get that. Let me, I don't want that.
Give me like a bladder down there to protect me
from other things. Like, so something that would like,
so it's like a device in your body that would excrete
this liquid into your belly.
Well, it's going to say, the belly's down here, Eric.
They got to put your, but the lab is over here.
You're going to fill you up here.
Okay. And then it goes down to the belly.
Have you made this contraption?
trying to.
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
Is this, okay.
I can't swivel my chair anymore.
Look at this.
Is this your saw machine?
Well, if you want something to constantly coat your stomach,
you're going to have to refill the thing to coat it.
Got it.
I suppose so.
So you've got to get like a hose out and beat you're something, right?
You've done a lot of research on this?
I'm just trying to make your dreams come true.
Okay.
Oh, Chris Cabin, you've wished that your stomach be constantly coated by ecstooler.
But first, there's going to be this.
thing up here that goes to this thing and then down to this thing.
You know what, you're right.
It doesn't make any sense.
Well, that would be cool.
You would look like bane, but it's just like pipto-bizmal instead of like something cool.
Oh, you think you have a stomach ache.
I was born with one.
Oh, my tummy hurts.
Oh, if I remove this, it'd be very painful and I'd fart a couple of times.
Oh, my, I have a booboo in my belly.
Oh, if I take this mask off, I'll be on the toilet all night.
And that the person he was working for Al-Gul, that sounds like a, not Al-Gore.
Not Raz Al-Gul.
Ross Al-Gul.
Where's Ross Al-Gul?
Raz Al-Gore.
All right, forget it.
Let's just stick with Roz Al-Gore.
I'm going to take over Gotham one lightbox at a time.
Don't worry.
World domination.
That civilization has to fall
because of all the environmental issues
that are actually going on.
And they're serious. I'm tired of it.
I'm going to move the doomsday clock up to 12.
I mean, speaking of the doomsday clock,
we get introduced to Gene Hackman in the middle of this scene.
Hell yeah.
I mean, the great Gene Hampton.
The king, the absolute king.
Senator Kevin Keely.
Kevin Keel.
Gene Hackman, like, can you imagine nowadays
being like you go to you do one movie that you're like this fucking sucked and then you actually
stop yeah to do the mooseport move it's just i i will never not have welcome to mooseport his last
film performance until he was on diners drives and dives that's right good cameo good choice
honestly if a comeback special pretty good it was yeah it was it was it was triple d and then he
appeared on someone's ticot walking through a gas station parking lot i love i mean here's the thing
about Hackman now, man. It's just like
when someone spots him
in the wild, it's like they're seeing Bigfoot.
They got to fucking film it. Like these
proof of life videos, like I swear to
God, Hackman's still with us. Look, he's getting
gas at show. Wait, you didn't
see him? He was serving us at a destination
dogs.
What do you want on your hot dog?
That wasn't Gene Hackman. I saw the zipper on the back
of his back is fake.
They faked that footage.
We're rolling out to see Royal
Tenenbaum.
I didn't get it.
Question about...
What's that grave about?
Question about the hack here.
Is this like...
Because I know he, you know,
sort of dabbled in some funny performances.
Obviously, Royal Tenenbaum's,
Mooseport, I guess, was cataloged as a comedy.
Heartbreakers from 2001.
Lex Lutters is a comedic performance also.
Sure, but is this in this movie
like his sort of broadest comedic performance.
It is.
I was trying to search through the old filmography there,
but the dude's been in a lot of movies.
It's really broad, but it's also he's playing the straight man, too.
Because he's just like, what's going on here?
But he does it, he does it so well, though.
And so naturally.
And it's so not the person that Hackman is.
I mean, it's a true performance in that way.
He praises Richard Nixon at one point,
and he was literally on Richard Nixon's enemies list.
Dude, that's like, you should be dining out on that.
If that happened, I'd be telling people left to die.
Oh, we're kidding me.
Guess who hates me?
Yeah, I didn't care for that conversation picture.
Exactly.
Who's playing a saxophone like that all the time?
Why would you do that to innocent floors?
Don't you love floors?
I love floors.
You know, I saw that night moves.
I don't know about eating fondue in bed after sex like that.
I love the idea.
Or maybe it was just like something where like Nixon saw him at a party.
Oh, I'm setting that man a nice jack and coke.
I love his pictures.
And he got ice.
Well, fuck him.
That's what I'm my Jack and Coke, huh?
Gene Hackman.
Exactly.
Nixon, man.
That's another dude I'm glad is dead.
Oh, sure.
Yes.
Long death.
Give it up.
Give it up for his death.
Yeah, for death.
And let's hope for some more.
You know what I'm saying?
One of my dreams came true the other day, man.
Rest and piss Pat Robertson.
That was like that guy.
That was very nice.
Boy, I was waiting.
wait wait hold on that's just tasteless a man spends his life hating the whole group of people
and then to celebrate when he dies yes yes that's how that shit works we get that sometimes man
I've seen like well very progressive of you celebrating someone's death and I'm like
fuck that monster I don't care I don't be I don't have to be progressive it just be joyous
it's awesome he's dead it's really great
Don't hold me to a standard, man.
I will fucking cheer when a big it kicks it.
Whatever.
That's good.
The fuck do I have to lose?
It's the circle of life and sometimes it's the best part of it.
But yeah, we find out from the Robin Williams and Valsy and it's early on.
He just like, hey, dad, I'm getting married.
And Armand is very upset because he's like, dude, you're only 20 years old.
You're going to ruin your life.
And he's absolutely right about.
I mean, no offense, anyone who tied the knot early, but,
Jesus fucking Christ.
It's nice to get some done.
I mean, it's amazing because, like, in the original,
it actually looks like a 20-year-old.
It's a young, man.
This guy looks like he's 37.
This guy, yeah, yeah.
I was going to ask in the French one
if he was playing even younger, you know?
I think he's 20 still as well.
They start early.
He kind of looks like Andrew McCarthy's stunt double, by the way, too.
But speaking of starting early, so he's 20,
and then we cut to Gene Hackman.
Speaking of starting early.
Because he goes to Calista Flockard, who's also 30 years old in this movie, playing as somewhat 18-year-old.
Because he says to her, you're getting married.
You're not even 18.
And then she says, yeah, we've been sleeping together for a year.
And I'm like, hold on.
I got my abacus out.
And I was like, wait, that goes that way.
This one goes this way.
Yeah, I find nothing morally wrong with that.
Exactly.
And this is 20.
Like, you're a college sophomore junior dating.
I don't even know.
like going to go to junior high dude what the fuck are you up to you like she must
what is she some sort of fucking douglas houser or something in college at 16 i like that
she could be she's just a very big fan of the stevie nick song the edge of 17 it's just right
there you know it's a good tune it was but yeah and also we're introduced
we're introduced to diane weist of course as louise keely oh man the killer amazing
man. I mean, call the fucking
petting zoo. All their goats escaped. Every last
I know. She's... Minus the
kids, but, uh, you know, she is
slinging straight fire this whole fucking movie, man.
It's incredible. I mean, this, the
entry point with her, like,
oh, Kevin, so have fun.
Oh! Yes. Just unbelievable
reaction shots of this. Yes.
Uh, there's the great thing where, you know, so
Colista has to make up on the spot, like, what the father
does. And she says something, like, oh, he's a
cultural ambassador. And Gene
Hackman, like, without missing. Pete is
Not the son of a bitch that did the Robert Mapplethorpe exhibit.
Was he the guy responsible for me looking at black and white
photographs of asses and dicks?
So he's turning into Nixon too.
Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Thanks for calling it out, dude.
I really appreciate the support on stage.
Every time.
I'm all about support.
I do love, but yeah, it's great.
But you, you all, I'm going to call you out even more.
You said this is when she has to start making stuff up.
No, she doesn't.
She can just say, I'm getting married to a guy.
He's 20.
His parents, oh, yeah, you're probably not going to like it.
His parents are gay.
And he's also Jewish.
Like the idea, she, I feel like even like, even Val is like, oh, yeah, so you made up some
story because they're not gay.
Wait, what?
Coleman.
What's that?
That's a problem, too?
I mean, I thought, oh, oh, okay.
I'm going to spend the rest of my life as Coleman, Val Coleman.
Why don't you give me some options other than Goldman?
Let's hear them now because I don't want to make them up.
I don't want to be talking like this.
Yeah, I mean, you can't go that close, man.
Like, it's got to be Johnson or something.
Sure.
Just to really separate.
But then it wouldn't be as farcical, of course.
What with it being a farce?
What with it being a farce?
That's right.
That is, that's right.
So, you know, Starina comes up after the show.
And this was a question I had, too, about the timing.
Because Robin Williams is, like, sitting outside on the Lanai or whatever.
And he's like, ooh, be quiet, vows asleep.
And I was like, how long was this drag show that this kid's like,
passed out. He was just drinking a glass of wine.
She started riffing. You know this thing's
going on for fucking ever.
That's true. I mean, there was at least
one costume change because she
comes up here and she's dressed like Judy Garland
from Easter parade.
Yeah.
Would have loved a scene what that number was.
It's like a three-hour situation.
You're like, can we go?
You're losing the audience.
There's two people left. And they're
Kennedys. We shouldn't have
agreed to that extra hour.
Era, get my coat.
I love the show.
Talking too long and singing too long.
I got to go drive a car off a bridge.
And then somehow blame the woman.
I thought that Marilyn Monroe number was tasteless.
How dare they?
The lady playing me couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.
But this is what,
and it's really like fucked up because Nathan
Nathan Lane is so excited to see Val.
He's like, oh, cool.
My son is here.
And then, like, this entire movie, Val treats him like shit.
Just absolute shit.
And all he comes back with is like, I love you, boy.
Yeah.
I love you.
I still love it.
You treat me like fucking dog shit throughout this movie.
I still love you.
The next movement is him, like, Nathan Lane, like, parading around town getting these cakes.
He's so fucking excited.
And meanwhile, he's like, that son of the bitch has to leave.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so tired of seeing him.
I hate Albert.
You're going to criticize that impression, too, there, Kevin?
It is pretty bad.
It's not good.
I got to tell you, that does not sound like damn.
It sounds enough like him.
I love this breakfast scene.
Like, my favorite detail in this breakfast scene is,
and this made me feel really at home,
Robin Williams is sitting reading the newspaper
on an exercise bike, but not using it.
Yeah.
And when I tell you that the exercise bike in my house
has been spending more time in our
second bathtub with a curtain closed over it than it has with my ass cheeks on it you better
believe it it's quite the image when you go in there you're like okay how you're taking the shower
well we have we have two showers oh well there you know that's easier and i'm sorry well i mean that is
good to have the exercise like in the kitchen like that because every once in a while you can just
start pet and be like yeah i did the exercise for the day right yeah that's it i burned it off right
there i did it don't worry about it uh i also love we're cutting to jean hackman watching this mcglofflin group
kind of parody thing, and these two dudes
screaming at each other, it's a smarter
show on television.
But you also find out which is kind of
an interesting, like, kind of lead into his character
that he's like, oh, I'm so glad
I got on the moral outrage
bandwagon as a...
Coalition for Moral Order.
We call it the Freedom Caucus these days.
But he calls it a bandwagon
very specifically because he knows that it's
bullshit. You know what I mean? Like, even...
Like, they care about this stuff, but they don't care
about this stuff. No, they're just craving
Fox that like money and power.
Coalition of the Moral Order
sounds like some scary...
Star Wars thing? No, like Grand Dragon
level of the... Oh, yeah. No, that's true.
DeSantis level shit. That's where the red
robes come out, not the old white ones.
Yeah. But he is
like co-founded it with this other
Senator, Senator Jackson. Eli
Jackson. Eli Jackson, who we are
told at one point was just a common redneck.
Daya Weist
says that it's amazing. She's just, he's a
common redneck that we were depending on for money about 10 minutes just like most of congress
yes but this is of course the only time we see eli jackson on the tv on a tv i don't think we ever
get to see him again because no you know because he drops dead uh while the program is doing but the
dude playing it he kind of looks like uh like an overweight gnomsky a little bit does a little bit
speaking of which yeah he just got an epstein tie this guy oh chomsky yeah that was a bummer
and then Eli Jackson here
discovered his body with an underage
prostitute.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I'm just, you know,
that guy had his tentacles wide and long,
especially in the 90s.
I feel like this is about to turn
into McLaughlin group.
Oh, cool.
We're going to hang out of Eli Jackson's house, baby.
Oh, man, the coalition for moral, what?
No, yeah, I left my saxophone there.
Can you ship it to me?
But yes, so Gene Hackman gets a call.
It looks like he's working on some sort of manuscript here
because there's like a big, you know, bound thing
that he's reading and giving corrections.
Manifesto, I think is the word.
New Bible.
Oh, those people call it manifestos.
That's right, yeah.
But there's the great line where he's like making a notation to like the editor or something
and it's like, the word is porno, not pronto, which is great.
So you can only imagine what he's fucking rambling about in that book.
But his, the guy leading the charge, you know, got caught in this really like shitty situation
or like immoral situation.
I don't know, dude,
and the rest of the movie,
Gene Hackman is running from reporters
to be like,
well, that guy who's clearly a pervert.
I am not.
End of story.
Well, dude, I mean, take a sec, man.
Look how hard it is for these motherfuckers
to unhinge from the other motherfucker.
That's true.
You can't, you know,
it's all for the vote, man.
Go for the votes.
No, but this is great
because when Hackman gets the phone call,
this is when you realize you're in
for an R-rated movie
because he goes,
I don't fucking believe this.
And I was like,
Excellent. We're going to have some adult language in this movie. I like that. And yes, Eli Jackson has been found dead while a sex worker was having a great time with him. And uh-oh, wouldn't you believe it? It's made even worse because she was black and a minor. We are throwing it all in. And Hackman getting really, really pissed off about all of it. And this is sort of like their whole, you know, angle of the movie is, you know, Diane Weiss says, well, this is great because we can use our daughter.
daughter's marriage as a way for you to rebound
of this. Again, really fucking
cowardly garbage shit, but that's who
these people are. Diane Weiss, the killer
is just going, like,
she is so subtle in all these,
like the way she keeps on saying, a nice
white wedding and all these
little things. Dude, yeah, I think she's talking about the
guest list there, man. Don't worry about it.
That's what's great about the performance is it doesn't go
big. It's all about these little intonations
like towards
all the fucking rank, terrible shit
they actually believe. But because of
this, you're actually allowed to laugh at it.
Like, families can laugh at this and be like,
oh, those pieces of shit.
Just like that, too.
Just as measured and come.
Don't lose it.
Just be like, and we're going to drive
to South Beach today.
From Ohio, my God.
We have to do this tomorrow.
No, we don't.
No, we don't.
The faster you get out of Ohio, the better.
Can we teleport there?
That's the only way it's working.
I'm sorry.
I love the bit of Hackman
climbing up and down this ladder
to get out of the house
because all the media is out there
and he's trying to go down the second time
and the press pools there
he sort of just addresses them
and the funniest and I feel like
this is very like Nichols in May
no one addresses how weird it is
that he's talking to the press
while standing on a ladder
and then when he's done
just climbs back up and goes inside
like Clarissa's best friend Sam
twang
I'm so glad that played
Woo
Speaking of 50-50
Hey yeah
Clarissa is your dad home
Oh God
I mean
Yeah I mean
The idea of a 68 year old
Gene Hackman
Going to 15 year old
Melissa Joan Hart's bedroom
Via ladder
Not such a great image
Really a really cute cat
You got there
I really like him
My friend Jeffrey said this was okay
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
There's also the great bit, and this is like, you know,
to really tell you how insane radical right
this dude likes to be, where they're like,
oh, well, maybe we could get the Pope's blessing,
and he's like, oh, this Pope's too controversial.
Maybe Billy Graham, no, too liberal.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Holy shit.
So you're just like into Mussolini then, huh?
Like that, I mean, that's just what that is, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And so they're going to start driving down.
And this is when Dan Futterman's like, all right, dad, new complication.
Everyone's coming here and your house is far too gay.
By the way, I don't live here.
And thanks for paying for my college.
Yeah.
You know that dude does not have a student loan to speak.
Not a single nickel.
Oh, my God.
And just like, yeah, throw all your shit out.
All your shit, including the man who raised me, by the way.
Yeah, so, like, you know, your apartment with all your statues, with the big juicy
cocks, those have to go, you know, a lot of your paintings have to go.
And also, yeah, the dude who loves me, we got to send him like an unwanted dog.
We got to send this dude away.
We can keep all the penis statues, but he has to go away for good.
I'm sorry.
And you're just supposed to, like, be in this dude's corner kind of?
Like, what the fuck?
Oh, he's just, he's just a kid.
He's just in love.
Exactly.
He's almost 30.
He's just a child.
Take it easy.
He's just a lightly a bigot.
So just be nice, okay?
But it's, I mean, Williams in this movie, you know,
he wound up playing Armand.
He was supposed to play Albert and then Steve Martin was going to play Armand.
Bullet dodged.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't think that would have worked.
I mean, no, no shade against Steve Martin, but like, no.
But also, L.O.L.
He couldn't do it because he was making fucking Sergeant Bilko.
That sucks.
Okay.
You get to work for Phil Hartman.
There's two glasses of milk.
This one's ice cold.
This one's hot and looks kind of gray.
I'll drink this one.
Sergeant Bilko milk.
Sergeant Milkko, dude.
Exactly.
No, but so then he was like, all right, well, if Martin's out,
I'd rather play Armand because he was just coming off a doubtfire
where he was again, you know, and dragged the whole movie.
So this works up.
But you get to see some real like Robin Williams acting here.
And he's got three lines in this scene alone
that just knock my socks off.
He goes, I don't care who, because the kid's like,
he's a senator, dad, and he's a fucking racist and an anti-Semite.
That's close.
That's about right.
That's good.
And I want to spend.
I've been chasing Chris Cabin's seal of approval for over 20 years.
So, you know.
Close is because you got to work for it.
But he goes, he goes, I don't care who he is.
I don't want to be someone else, excellent.
And then he says, what am I supposed to do to like, hey, could you, could you, could you, he says shit.
Like, could you walk differently?
Eat my fucking ass shit head.
And then he goes, the best one, fuck the senator.
I don't give a damn what he thinks.
Best line of the movie, non-comedic line, yes.
End credits directed by Mike Nichols.
That's the end of the movie.
He's just like, yeah, no, there's no farce.
Fuck that guy.
Yeah, what do you think of my shorts?
family of your fucking friends and family.
Oh!
Oh!
It would have been just as good.
I win again!
I win again!
But yeah, cover up you're gay.
Cover up that you're Jewish.
You better tuck that star of David Neckless into your tank top.
That's like a double demon, right?
Gene Hagman will just sit on fire if he sees it.
That's how that usually goes with them.
Also, we should mention, too, that a crooked, like,
National Inquirer reporter
finds out where he's going because he bribes
the chauffeur there.
Grant Hezlov and the good
counselor from heavyweights.
Got it. Right. Yes. Character actor
Tom McGowan. He played a
Kenny, the station manager on Frazier for
a while. Also, I mean, just a phenomenal
character actor here. I am
a little surprised that the relationship
between Armand and his son
goes past this little piece of
shit, taking his fingers
across his father's fucking face,
and taking the foundation and smear.
Wouldn't you just kill him right then?
I mean, like, already the mother has abandoned.
You can get rid of him real quick.
Their ocean is right there.
At least slap him.
I don't know.
He's 20.
He could take it.
Killing is better.
You touch my face, I'll touch yours.
There's a crazy Uber 90s thing that happens right here where Robin Williams goes.
I just had that wall sponge painted.
You guys remember sponge painted walls?
What is sponge painting?
What is sponge painting?
exactly what it sounds like.
It's when your mom takes a sponge,
puts it in a paint tray,
and dabbs the wall with it.
You bet your ass I lived in a house
that had that all over the place.
Oh, baby.
It was trendy as fuck.
Only the walls that are sponge worthy
got the treatment.
True, that's true.
A lot of accent walls.
You're not necessarily doing a whole room.
It's like motherfuckers, like, five, ten years ago.
Everybody on HG TV was talking about
shipwap.
Oh, yeah.
It was the shipwap of the 90s.
Yeah, my sponge painted wall.
We got to talk about another
staple of the 90s. That is
Keeley and the misses
are watching Jay Leno.
Jay Leno is
who would not turn
down a chance to do
one of these little bits. He does this in so
many movies. I have to imagine, like
at the top of a year, like he decides
which ones he's going to do, right? All the big blockbusters.
And he just takes a day in the studio just doing it like
right of it. Hey, so did you hear about
all these military guys taking over the prison over in San Francisco?
Did you hear about this? You hear about this?
What's this one for Costa Garvus's
Z. City Hall? What was that movie
with, didn't he direct a movie that he, Mad City?
Oh, Mad City. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Folks, you wouldn't remember Mad City.
It was in the 90s, but it wasn't a staple.
You hear about this? You hear about this in New York City.
Godzilla was running all over the place.
Had a bunch of babies of Madanthinth Square Garden.
Ninja Tato!
Like, this guy had no dignity when it came to any of this shit.
Get this, folks.
Get this.
It's a stoner guy who moves to his family's house for Thanksgiving.
And he's got to be the son-in-law.
I don't know why that would make Jay Leno's news report, but...
Oh, my God.
This just didn't.
Mufasa is dead.
Simba is king.
Do you hear about this?
Did you hear about this?
Ethan Hunt, he's selling the knock list.
What are we going to do?
What are we going to get it back?
Selling the knock list indeed.
All of our accurate it is because there's no punchlines.
The band is not a punchline artist.
He's a set-up artist.
Do you hear about this?
It was an amusement park and it was all dinosaurs.
Went right down the toilet.
I call it Congress.
Hey-oh.
See?
And so that's a little more of a letterman there.
It had a punchline at the end of it.
That's a good one.
That's like Letterman would not.
can't just imagine him doing that at all. He had too much dignity to be like, no, he was in fucking
cabin boy, though. Yeah, he should. He will do your cabin boy. Well, cabin boy was written by one of his
writers. Yeah. And obviously it starred one of his performers. That's right. Chris Elliott. Underrated
gems. That's right. Wow. Chris that one guy. But respect on his name. But so like he kind of begrudgingly
agrees that he's going to have to get Albert out of the house so that he takes Albert to lunch basically
to tell him he's got to go. Yeah. And it, it does.
does not really happen.
I mean, it goes terribly, and he just immediately's like, well, how about not?
How about we don't do that? Why don't we immediately just go back on that idea?
Well, because his fucking relationship is hanging on by a fucking thread.
This little piece of shit, it's like, you gotta get him out of here.
He's like, well, what about Uncle Albert?
How about that?
Straight old Uncle Albert.
No!
No!
Gone!
Get him out of here.
Get him out of here.
He scares me.
It's Florida.
Do we have basements here?
Lock him in that, if so.
basements in Florida
Anybody?
They barely exist
No, no, all right
Yeah, all right
Do you hear about this?
There's a basement in Florida's full of alligators!
I guess that's why they don't have them.
The alligators go and live in them.
A dog is trapped in one and her father is up tired.
Coming up on Jay,
Assyr Arafat and Kate Hudson.
Kate Moss.
Kate Moss.
Yeah.
This is the great I pierced the toast bit
which we just watched on that.
Oh my God.
That, oh my God.
I pierced the toast is one of the funniest
fucking line deliveries in film comedy
ever. It's so great. But I got to say something
here. Big
F plus to the prop department
with this fucking lunch that
they're having. So they sit down at this cafe
Robin Williams does definitely
say to the guy the usual
and what comes out
is, you remember the photos of the Firefest
lunch that they gave people?
That's what these
fuckers are eating here.
It's like, it's like
wet, soggy white toast
A brown piece of lettuce
A tomato that's seen better days
And a slice of maybe Swiss cheese
It looks disgusting
A tomato that was stolen
From a Wendy's chicken sandwich
And brought to this restaurant
Like this is the worst looking tomato
I have ever seen
It's horrid
It's the Depression restaurant
Everything's 38 cents
You got a couple of jet fuel coffee too
Absolutely. Come on in here and pretend it's 1934.
Exactly.
I like this giant they cast as the villain guy who's just like,
are you calling me an asshole?
That's a great line.
Are you laughing at my automobile?
This was what, after the John Wayne walk.
Yes.
I love the John Wayne walk because it is not as off base as you might think it is.
If you've ever seen John Wayne,
like it's every first step was like he might fall right the fuck over.
And it was probably like because of boozing on set or something,
but that is a weird waddle that dude had.
And just Robin Williams' reaction of like, no, that was perfect.
I just never realized he walked like that.
So good.
I also love when he clinks the glass on the phone to congratulate and it breaks.
Oh, fuck, fuck.
So fucking funny.
Not you, dear, not you.
He's, I don't know if he had, I don't think he has it on at the lunch, but on the walk to the cafe,
he's wearing this backwards, like white baseball cap.
Like he's going to play pickup basketball with Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson.
It is so weird looking and kind of feels like not for the character.
So it's only really like that one scene.
I do wish that we got after this scene, after Rob Williams gets his ass kicked,
you get back to the, like you get an 80s montage like,
take it to the limit.
And it's just them watching like the searchers in Big Jake.
All these old John Wayne just like pointing, doing like math equations.
to be like, this is how the gate should go.
You know, I thought a different movie was being put on
when you decided to play rooster cockburn.
Nathan Lane comes down, dresses
Genghis Khan. Like, no, not that.
Not that.
Get the makeup out of here. No, no, no, no, no.
Stop that. The Conqueror. There should be
at the end of Oppenheimer. They should do
a memory of the cast and crew of the conqueror
who died from radiation.
Program those together.
That's something for somebody.
be a great thing for a retro house 40 years from now.
That would be weird that like they're playing it and it's like kind of like a maybe it's like
pictures of the actor so it's like a little victory lap kind of thing.
You're playing a fun.
Like maybe the song from Animal House at the end plays at the end of Oppenheimer.
Like really go fucking bonkers with it.
I would love that.
I appreciate it.
Because you know you're going to need to laugh at the end of that movie.
Oh yeah.
But around here, so like basically the ideas will, if Albert's going to stay, that's going to, you know,
make everything much more difficult.
I guess we can ask your biological mother who's just up.
the road and never said anything to you.
But then again, if you saw this kid, you were like, fuck him.
I really want to know more about this relationship.
It's just interesting to me because, you know, she has the kid and then that's it.
This is the one place where I think that I like this movie way more than I like the
original, but this is one place where they fumble the ball.
The original is a lot more about how the kid is still pissed off about the fact that he was
abandoned by his mother and like had this situation with his parents.
Well, you're going to need a real actor to carry out those scenes.
I mean, this was a baby, so a little bit.
But, like, Val doesn't have that.
No, but this is 1996, and there was that law.
If there was a movie by a gay couple,
Christine Baranski had to appear.
So that was just sort of like,
it's true.
It's great.
It's on the books for a reason.
And, you know, she just, she doesn't fit in the movie,
but she's going to goddamn be in the movie, God damn it.
I got to have a note to the costume department right here for this scene, too.
when they cook up the idea of, like, maybe we can get Ma on board here.
Because, like, yeah, you've never met her, but she loves a good farce.
He's sort of, like, he's sort of sitting like this on the couch.
And this dude's got these shorts on.
The crotch is blown right out of these.
You can't be in a movie and have Swiss cheese crotch.
I just couldn't believe what I was looking at.
Disagree.
One more hole.
He's hanging brain.
I'll say what I like about just general appearances in the Christine Branski scene.
is this she does it and i've never been more jealous of a woman in my entire life she just starts
putting her hands in the chest hair of robin william oh yeah she's she's searching around
for seeds or something in there man i want to put my nose in it's that a press it in is that
some crumbs a quarter it's like it's going through a quick couch cushion
a boat ore wow here's some cocaine from the 70s got it got it got it oh
this is all the cocaine from the 70s. Wow.
But coupon for dish
detergent.
But the funny thing is like,
because that's the thing about the Christine Brancy character
who, like, there's a world
in which it's like, oh, you know, like I
was a hip lady in the
70s and my friends wanted
a baby and I was cool with it and I just, you know,
I gave them that opportunity and no problem.
But this makes her to be this like weird sex
crazed maniac because she's like, well, yes,
I showed up in your dressing room.
crazy and drunk and we made it happen and it's like meanwhile what the fuck with this chest
hair yeah she is feeling him up and you know good for her and Albert again is right he's like I don't
want you in there with that hussy that's my hair that's my chest hair god damn it I mean you know
touching his nipples at this point keep your hands out of there I got my lunch down there
don't go rifling through my things she's got a great line where he goes uh sorry you're married and
She responds with, I'm between husbands, which is fucking fantastic.
In a way, only Christine Baransky could deliver a line like that.
Absolutely.
This is hot streak time.
This is Bofinger, like within a year of plant.
My God.
That's right.
The queen.
I forgot she's in Bofinger.
Ooh.
Is she in Bullworth?
Is she the wife in Bullworth?
She might be.
I haven't seen Bullworth in a long time.
Do you think she's ever paid for a drink at a gay club in her entire life?
Absolutely.
Not once.
No.
Not a fucking penny.
No.
Big tipper.
probably a huge tip of really nice. But not
a pen. I don't even think she's getting
charged at a pizzeria, uno.
I think she's doing fine.
I gotta say when they're dancing.
Why would she go? The idea of Christine
Baranski at a pizza.
It's at the start of a mad licks.
She's
Christina Branski at a
pizzeria uno.
She likes
in Chicago style. What can you say?
Okay.
No, so, you know, just noticing, like, they do, like, cute little dance number here.
And I'm looking at the shoes, and, like, there's heels a little bit, but not a lot, not enough to make her tower over Robin Williams like this.
It is a real giant woman situation.
Look how fucking tall she is.
Oh, my God.
It's a giant Christine Baranski.
oh dude yeah there's a cheap sci-fi movie you can make so i have to be a bit of a nerd once again here
okay that they are singing a sonnheim song called love is in the air yeah which was supposed to be at the
beginning of a funny thing happened on the way to the forum indeed and then was pulled at the last minute
and they put i forget what the other song is that they put in however a funny thing happened on the way
the forum starts that is perfect like for talking about like a relationship
that was major but then had to leave.
The fact that they sing that song,
it just adds this level
that I think most movies like this
don't think about.
Right.
Nuance.
Yes.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine such a thing
in American comedies these days?
The Coalition of Moral Order
outlawed it by like 2000,
I think.
There's all the hateful shit
and then also we can't make big comedies anymore.
Strack it from the wreck.
Can't have any thoughtful scenes either.
Anyway.
But you know, Albert comes in
catches her with her like I mean her hand is between fucking five and twelve down there man it's it's
getting close dude it's you know thank goodness albert came in when he did because I don't know man
I think she might have been trying to go for round three when all says it's like oh my god this
chest here how about that it continues down I'm gonna save some of these she is fascinated by it
also because when they were together yeah he had shaved his chest I see which I mean you know
War crime.
Yeah, totally.
But also.
Every 20 minutes.
I was going to say,
I mean, could you imagine
like him actually trying to do that?
Yes.
I hope you got a fucking
Costco pack of razors on you.
It's just him laying back like this
and somebody with a weed whacker
just getting closer and closer.
Easy.
Easy.
Don't move forward.
Whatever you do.
But she does agree to do it.
Yes.
And this makes Albert feel kind of on the outs
at this point.
And this is basically, is this the funeral scene, which is the best part with the, I bring my...
Yeah, because, like, you know, he takes the car and drives off and leaves Robin Williams to take the bus home.
That's funny.
Val is doing the subtract don't add a bit about getting all the statues out of talking.
The Playboy line is fucking great.
Who put the Playboy's in the bathroom?
The dude turns around and goes, that's what they read.
Might be.
That and the enormous crucifix is really great.
which it is funny that the thing
that was supposed to be there
because the dude comes back
with like a huge stuffed moose head
and then I started thinking about
welcome to Mooseport
and I'd deposit
so I can get that shitty fucking movie
out of my head
I gotta scrub that shit out
it's a great little detail
because Hank is there
trades the moose head for the crucifix
is like oh no this works better
and he's like
and they also threw it in these books
and later on you see Diad Wees go up to them
and it's like oh the complete Nancy Drew
which is just
a hilarious like remainder book joke
that's just for me but I'm good for it
I'm good for it now I'm just imagining
Mike Nichols as it's all being finished
and they're striking this set and like he just like
crew look at me
you see this man up on the cross
that's me
that was me
and now I've made the bird cage
fuck you I win
good for him
you know
go for it man
three days later he came back
and that other set
of footprints was like
Nichols carrying you
dude so he says
to Nathan Val
that is says to Nathan Lane's
face it will be better
without an uncle
and again
fuck off
major character
when he's dressed now
as like a straight
presenting in the suit.
And I just love the pink socks.
It's like, well, one does want a hint of color.
Right.
That's why I wore my pink socks.
You can't tell.
But one does want a hint of color.
I love that.
That scene is so just perfectly gentle in the way that he's talking about.
But it happens after my favorite scene, which is the bus stop scene.
Yeah.
Where it's Robin Williams and Nathan just talking about what, this is our life.
Like this is, I've agreed to it.
This is, I have confirmed now, I am not thinking about any other kind of life.
This is the life I want and I'm going to have now.
But I want in that scene.
It's like, listen, we raised a kid.
We fucked up, honestly.
It was a mistake.
You know what?
He turned out real fucking shitty.
I don't know how to be a problem.
He's the most selfish person I've ever met in my life.
He's a piece of shit.
We need to do this one thing for him.
It's one night.
And then we'll never see him ever again.
That's right.
You know what?
This is it.
This is our goodbye song to Val.
All right of a check and that's the fucking end of it.
But it's really great because he's,
Nathan Lane's like I'm going to Los Copa.
And he says, well, the only thing there is a shitty cemetery.
and when they get to the bus stop
with like the HMS
Titanic pulling behind
this huge fucking boat
your caterer ship going behind
Yeah totally
but it's it's so fucking sweet
and he's talking about like
you know
you make me laugh
yada yada and he goes
I'm gonna switch my
beautiful cemetery plot that I have
over to the shitty cemetery
so I don't miss any of the laughs
and I'm like choking up fucking
telling you about a movie
you already heard the line for
but it's really great
And it's just, it's a moment where there's like, it's almost devoid of all comedy.
And just the whole movie, just like, the whole movie is literally sitting at this bus stop.
Just kind of having this, this sweet scene.
And also this is where he, he shares that he's like, oh, I'm not lying.
Like, here's the Pallimony Papers.
We're going to sign them.
Now everything's 50-50.
It's fucking gorgeous.
It's a great scene.
And the big fucking tugboat behind it is incredibly distracting.
I mean, it's fucking bullseye-a-primo scene.
It's woke is what it is.
Two people care.
about one another?
Sounds woke to me?
That's woke.
Beer, that's woke.
What else is woke?
Oh, the NFL now or something.
Of course.
Everything is woke.
Oh, the Uber Woke NFL.
What fucking planet are you on?
Well, they let someone kneel once, so they're woke.
Oh, right.
I just like, now they're trying to trick me to drink in Bud Light, and I'm like, I can't do it.
Don't do it.
I can't do it.
I mean, the interesting about this part,
because we had just,
we had gone through a couple years
where we were learning
that Robin Williams can do like sentimental really well.
Like he was a humor machine before then
and now you knew he could do
the sentimental family stuff.
And this is to me,
the connective tissue to where he ends up doing stuff
like Goodwill hunting.
Enzomnia,
which are much more measured performances.
Hunting was like just the year after this, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It was not long after this.
And then it's in this performance.
There's all this sadness in the performance for Robin Williams, but he doesn't overplay it for a minute because he can see he can go right back into humor. I always am shocked by how good this performance is. There's very little what we'd call Robin Williamsing in this movie. Yeah. None of that. That's like virtually absent aside from when, you know, they're rehearsing, which you saw in the trailer and he's doing Twilight, Twilight, Twilight, Twilight, all that stuff. And you, there's twice, there's two times where he goes to make an announcement in the bird cage.
like main room and it's like a shot of him coming to the microphone and you just expect from like
good morning Vietnam to be like hello bird cage and it's just like all right and now come
and you're like whoa this is really different you're like he's not talking about like groucho marks
at all he hasn't fained having a cigar in his hand once the whole movie weird sweat isn't
dripping into the microphone and fritzing it out but yeah there's a great scene where albert
is turned away finally
like he comes out
his uncle Albert
it's not good enough
for fucking little Val
so he storms off
closes the door
and oh the Keeleys are here
so the farce has begun
at this point
but really quickly
if being incredibly shitty
to his loving parents
was not enough
he goes up to Agadore
and he's like
hey motherfucker
just talking your real voice
you fucking piece of shit
I'm the boss here
you know that
me and my fucking
wacky heart
What is he's got the troll t-shirt on?
What a piece of shit this kid is.
You need a uniform, mister.
Hey, my dad's paying your check and I'm an asshole to my dad, so I get to say whatever I want.
And this is one of the parts, though, where, like, Val sort of looks down at the floor and it's like, close up on Hank's feet.
Oh, yeah.
Look at the fucking feet.
Oh, yeah.
Not bad.
Again, I'm really impressed.
Nice feet.
I do love that when I wear your shoes, it's like one of the bigger jokes of this movie like that.
kind of caught on.
Yeah.
But it's just a fucking
ridiculous idea, isn't it?
It was just wearing
huge clown shoes
that would make you fall down.
The idea of wearing shoes
at all.
Right.
Makes you fall down.
It's humorous.
It's a comedy.
It's a funny movie.
I'm also anti-shoo.
It's what do you know?
Oh yeah.
This guy,
not unless he absolutely has to.
I hate fucking shoes.
Get him the fuck out of here.
In real life,
it's like Frodo Baggins over here.
It's just a forest down there.
I love the sequence
of like the Keeley's
pulling into South Beach
And it's like, you know, ma and daughter in the backseat
and Hackman's riding shotgun.
And it's like a bunch of like babes and like dudes and banana hammocks are walking by.
And like the ladies are looking at the banana hammocks.
And Gene Hackman's like, yeah, look at the ladies.
And you're like, yeah, of course these people are full of fucking shit.
Yes.
Of course you're going to look at this and be turned on, man.
It's at a beautiful part of the country.
Look at it.
It was all.
People wise, not politics wise and everything.
And this is this movie has the most Jeb Bush
mentions maybe ever.
Dude, what was that about? With a whopping
three. It's like, wow.
That is the cultural impact
of Jeb Bush. I'm glad
someone please clapped already.
Please clap.
I mean, that is like the most
damning, that he is best,
Gene Hackman's character, his best
friends with Jeb Bush is as damning as
it gets. Because he's not even like the
serious, like cutthroat Republicans.
He's just some guy who talks on TV
all the time. But I think it's that
clout chasing thing though where it's like um friends with someone in a political dynasty you know
because when uh mrs keely here is like oh yeah they live close to whatever island where jeb bush
lives that is a ruined pair of underpants on that lady she's like where did you say they live
by who bush island oh bush island man look out mary a razor there oh you know i had a series
I had a series of tapes called Bush...
No, you don't forget about it.
Poppy, I thought this island would be different.
Well, Jr., leave your rays around the dock.
We're on Bush Island.
Yeah, Steve, you had those on tapes,
you ripped the label off and wrote
WrestleMania 93 on them.
Salman King's Bush Island.
Well, Jr., I don't think we should
put a temple on the island.
I think that's a bad idea.
I think that would give people a wrong idea.
Hey, poppy, what's a banana hammock?
It's a hammock that you put your bananas in, sony.
It keeps them ripe.
Oh, it keeps them ripe indeed, dude.
But Christine Moransky is stuck in traffic of all things.
So, like, basically, we're starting the farce with just Agadour Armand, who's, his whole
name is different.
It's like...
Agadour Spartacus?
Agadour Sparticus, and then...
I don't know why Agadour needs a fake name in all of this.
You know, I feel like there was some maybe, like, delineancy.
He was like...
It sounds too gay.
Oh, that could be.
Now bring me my candy.
Now, is that a...
Is that a...
I'm stomping going up the stairs
or is that like I'm having a pitch and a fit?
A fit, yeah.
Yeah, nice little temper tantrum.
Yeah, like those little kids get 20-year-olds.
They can't drink yet, Eric.
So they do throw tantrum.
Wow, that's actually true.
Fuck.
Yes.
And, you know, we're exploring the weirdness
of the house. I love the
dedication to the cross.
I think Rob Williams calls it
a monastery. Like it feels like a monastery.
Which you really wanted to be?
There's the great sort of mix up here where he says
like, oh, like we bought in early. It was
mostly Jewish back then.
And Hackman's like, I thought you said it was mostly sand
back then. Ed Williams is like,
well, you know the old saying, where's there
sand?
He says there were Jews around here
and all of a sudden the kill bill alarm
sounds starts going off.
Gene Hackman coded in red emergency lights.
You said, watch.
I mean, it's, I mean, we don't get, the funny thing about Gene Hackman in this movie is that, and I've seen this like dozens of time at this point.
They do really make a point of being like, every time he has something to say, he like loads a program.
You can see him loading a program from the back of his head of like how he's supposed to talk to Roobes.
Right.
And he's just like, oh, the lead.
Oh, the leaves.
Going through Kentucky and through Georgia.
The foilage, yeah.
And the foilage.
And if it's Tangian Brown, you're insider town.
It's just, you know, Ned Flander's boring ass shit.
It's amazing because like you could just, it's, it feels honest that as a political maneuver, it feels right.
It's also just that brutal like meeting of parents that if anyone's participated in that, good God, is it awkward?
The Root Talk.
Oh, the root talk. How'd you get here?
Yeah.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You'd you take 17?
Oh, no, you took 94.
Oh, interesting.
Wait, wait, this is all they're talking about,
and I decided to give them a whole new life and a story.
I got here via Google Maps.
I don't know what the root was.
Oh, was many clouds in the sky when you were driving down?
Oh, no.
Funny.
Tree's swinging the brain?
Meanwhile, the National Enquirer guy has,
gone, has followed them all the way down
and someone from like a local
TV station is like, hey, isn't that that
National Enquirer guy, whatever's name, was Harry
something, or like Harry? Harry Radman.
Harry Radman. And they're like, oh yeah,
he gained a lot of weight since the
O.J. Simpson case. And it's like
an overweight actor, whatever. He's
not in the scene. I guarantee you
he didn't know that was in the movie until like
dude, he was watching it. This
motherfucker's at the premiere
in a rented tuxedo.
Proud is a pig and shit
To be in this major motion picture
And he just gets torpedoed with a secret fat joke
It's like, you know what, it's great
I'm finally in a movie
There's no fat jokes at my expense
No, no honey, seriously
I know every other movie there's like something
I was every scene
I was treated like an equal
Wait, what?
Dear God, look how fat he got since the OJ trial
Look, like yes, I had to be in heavy ways
But that was a deal with the devil
Now I can move on with my law.
Fuck.
Fuck.
God damn it.
But because they see that now like every local station is like on the hunt for the
conservative senator in, you know, in the birdcage district, I guess we're calling it.
Oh, in the birdcage district.
Yeah, they're called the birdcage.
South Beach.
Yeah.
That's it.
And, you know, in one of the absolute greatest reveals in movies, you just hear this like
Julia Child-esque, here are.
and just fucking heads up
for one of the greatest things
you've seen in your life
is this performance man
oh my God is he great
and it's like he's so
he gives exactly what they want
there's that great bit about abortion
and
great bit about abortion right folks
no but it's
they're talking about abortion
and it's like very contentious
you hear about this
and
abortion you know like
I think even like
Val is trying to steer
away from it, but they're like, oh, you know, like,
I think Gene Hackman's like something, well,
the doctors are only getting it because they're doing the abortions.
And then, uh...
Yeah, it's one of those like, I'm not saying we should kill abortion doctors.
But then, uh, he said,
um, Nathan Lane as this character, as...
It's like, it's hilarious because Nathan Lane as a character as a character.
And in that sort of prison, it's like, well, they should kill the mothers too.
The fetus could go down with the ship.
And it's like, go down with the ship.
because she's doing what he thinks
he wants to hear and it's
so fucking funny. And it turns out
he does. He does exactly.
Oh. It kills at the table.
He loves this shit.
Senator Keeley is falling in love
with Mother Coleman
hardcore right here. I will say
they make it because it's Gene Hackman
it's a little more cute and cuddly.
Like the father,
the conservative father in the original
they cut him out of saleo.
Like he was going there
That was his weekend plans, and then he came back.
Like, they really overdue him.
So he was also a senator of some kind?
A kind of, head of state of sorts, Eric.
But then this is the great thing, too,
where, of course, then he brings up
the dead senator,
and, you know, she's like,
oh, well, we don't believe a word of that.
And we'd like an autopsy, and another
just killer hackman line. He's like,
that's what Rush Limbaugh says.
You can, like, you can see the fuck
hearts in this dude's eyes
also fuck that pig
rest and piss
that's nice hope you got buried
with your golden microphone you piece
of shit my fbeth
I love that we're just getting applause for people
who died we have nothing to do it
congratulations
we hate movies
Limbaugh was the one that I got a talking to
on the internet about being excited about
we're on folkleaves dead right
oh we're my fuckley's dead
this is killing let's keep going the rest of the show is dead you know that son of a b adolf hitler took his own life like a coward didn't he
all right who else who else you got to think now uh you get this great moment where they're all dancing
singing and dancing do i could have danced all night from my fair lady and you know robin blames is playing the piano
and mrs coleman is dancing with senator keel and it's just all so great
this whole little choreograph thing
and then in comes his area
singing the rest of it
and this big booming voice
it's so awesome
and then dinner is served
one of the most disgusting
soup scenes
this side of dead alive folks
the only thing that could have made it worse
is if someone's face
fucking fell off in the soup
and then they ate their own face
this soup
is really gnarly
I would have loved if Val did that
if Val just starts melting into the soup
That sounds great.
It was giving me some, you know, Temple of Doom vibes.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Oh, the chilled monkey brains.
Oh, delicious.
I do love, the bowl gag is obviously hilarious
where it's a bunch of men in Greek garb having sex with each other on the bowls.
We don't see the bulls.
But, like, no one has their glass.
It's like, I think that's what it is.
And, like, oh, no, there's a girl on mine, which is the idea of, like,
just playing that off.
Oh, no, no, no, mine has a girl on it.
It's fine.
And then Jeet hack would be like, I know something.
that's not a girl.
I don't need my glasses to tell you that.
Somewhere around here, too,
is when Callista Flockhart
forgets that this is Albert in drag
and I was like, you have one job.
You got one job, Barbara?
You're fucking it up.
You know what?
I don't put it past Val
to just let her swim on her own
to be like, no, yeah, yeah.
It's just a normal night.
Don't worry about it.
Oh, not even telling her what's going on?
No, no, no.
Fuck you.
You're 17.
Got it.
But this is one of the great ad libs here, the kitchen scene where he's freaking out about the soup getting served.
And he yells, fuck the soup, and slips and falls on the floor.
And it's an IRL.
Williams is beefing it.
And just keeps in the moment.
The three of them are just, like, laughing their asses off.
Like, he's screaming to kind of, like, mask it.
It's just, the whole thing is just a comedy school in a little scene.
Some of the best goddamets I've ever heard.
Oh, yeah.
Just, just squealing.
God damn it.
God damn it.
But, yeah, so, like, they're kind of, like, just kind of getting through.
Meanwhile, there's a note that is on the door for Christine Baranski to not come because, you know, it's fucking too late now.
By the way, thanks for nothing, mother.
We're going back to not talking.
I know I needed you for this, but you know what.
Well, she gets caught in a Miami traffic jam, which is a bridge cam.
up because a sailboat was flying.
Leave earlier. That's the thing.
Yep. Hour early. You don't want to be late for
a farce, folks. You really don't.
Because you never know if you're going to
fuck it up. But
the dastardly and fat
guy from the National Enquirer.
I want to go out of my way to just mention
the movie does not want you to forget.
So Kid Criscoe is back in the
picture. Take it from here.
He grabs the
notes. So like, now the farce shall be
certainly ruined
and you know
we're kind of
this is about when
Albert's wig starts
to tip a touch
which is because ever
of course in this situation
farce or no you are boozing hard
don't worry about it
and he's getting kind of wasted
with all the with all the wine
and yeah he sort of leans down
and comes up and the wig is
askew which is fucking great
and then this weird like
all four of us are going to the bathroom
at the same time
and meanwhile Gene Hackman
and Dianwist are about to
fucking break up their marriage
of 80 hundred years
Well, it turns out who's afraid of Virginia Wool for like five minutes.
I know what's going on here.
It's just like for five minutes, you see all of this shit.
She's like, oh, you love her.
It's like, I don't love anybody.
And it's like, holy shit.
I see what's going on.
She's a small town girl and he's a pretentious European.
Yes, that's right.
He invokes Aristotle Anassas, which...
Love that.
That's totally great.
I noticed you didn't have this compassion for Bessie Jackson.
Yes.
I see Jackson's an old hoot.
Oh, I think he says cow, actually.
Yeah, how do you like it?
A fuck face.
Well, I wasn't pretending.
But so she, so like as they're like kind of trying to fix the wig, wouldn't you know what
Christine Bransky does show up, but she's like, hello, it is me the mother of Val.
She has a good thinking on her toes here.
She's like, I forgot my keys, which is a great explanation for why she's not just walking.
in the door. And man, classic Azaria line right here. He's like, can I take your purse
for the first time or maybe like I always do? And then this is where the everything comes
undone. She introduces herself. I'm Val's mother, Mrs. Goldman. And Gene Hackman goes,
Juch, too, too. I was having dinner with Jews. Also, and there's fires outside. People are
screaming.
I got to get my stomach pumped.
They better put their Jew magic in it.
Nixon also said that once.
Yes, she did.
That was caught on the tapes at the White House.
I mean, that's what you want to be careful.
You don't want to have those Hebrew national hot dogs, folks.
They do have Jewish magic in them.
And that might upset your stomach a touch.
It used to be in the commercials.
Now with 50% less Jewish magic.
Trying to get a bigger market.
Yeah, so this is, you know, Hackman thinks that like Baranski's like the lady on the side or whatever.
So he's like, how many mothers does Val have?
And this is where like, and I get it.
Like we're trying to keep it short.
The movie's already, you know, pretty much two hours and it's based on a play and all that.
But this is just like, it's not enough to save this guy where he's just like, you know, I have one mother and she's right here.
And this is my father.
And he's a nightclub owner and she's the star.
And like, it's nice.
but I still hate your rots, dude?
You're still a total douchebag.
There's no walk in that back.
It's been too long.
It's been a whole 24 hours of hell.
I mean, I can't do it.
You have to really apologize to Albert.
That's what the movie is missing.
There's no scene like that.
I'm all for a movie wrapping up quick,
which this pretty much does,
but you need that moment where he's like,
you raised me and I was garbage to you.
And he don't get it.
I was so scared and blah, blah, blah.
Give him something.
Exactly.
But it's not there.
But so now, uh-oh, the press is outside and we don't want the quillies to be totally ruined.
So how do we fix it?
What about a big old dance number, everybody, where everyone's wearing it?
That's right.
We are family indeed.
I love this.
Just coming through the club.
Gene Hackman looking like a hungover Dame Edna.
Rest in peace, by the way.
Not the piss.
and yeah
and there's a great Diane Weist bit
where there's a guy
I never dance with the band
and she goes
now you have
she does like a band voice
there's a first time
for everything
which is so great
and Gene Hackman
knows the song
the words too
we are family
we are family
da da da da da ba da
that's all you need to know man
it's an easy one to fudge
Calista Flockhart
looking like fucking
Winona Ryder and Beetlejuice
like she's got the black hair due and like the like caked on white makeup and the thing
is this is the one moment in possibly the entire the credits are like around the corner
they're coming quick yeah i have one second to like colista flockart's like look at all
these guys and they look better than me and i'm like god damn it oh out of 10 lady zero out of
10 you want to give her a character no just pitch one in there and then val and this piece
just, they just get to dance
the night away because good for them.
Yep. Absolutely. The happy couple.
Yeah. I guess
it's good. I guess
this was worth it. This fucking 24
hour. God, 24 hours to do this
all. I do love
they got out of the club. They get in the car
and they're kind of like
crooked chauffeur.
Gene Hackerb's like, make me at the corner
45th and 9th and 10 minutes.
It's like, in your dreams, lady.
It's, I, what I
It's really great because he said, meet me in 20 minutes, the corner of El Dorado and Palm.
And the guy goes, lady, not for a million dollars.
And it's the end of the movie.
And it kind of, I think it might be like a sum like it hot, like nobody's perfect kind of sign off gag, which is pretty great.
Which is why we don't, I honestly don't think we need the wedding.
You know what I mean?
No, but you had to let the fucking heteros know that everything was going to be A.
A.OK with those kids, man.
That's what it was.
Someone at MGM was chomping on a cigar like, that can't be the last time of the movie.
They've got to get married.
I mean...
Lord's got to bless it.
And I don't know
if this
drag queen was confused
or she needed glasses.
Is that Bob Dole over there?
He's gorgeous.
Pardon me?
Bob Dole regrets coming to this wedding.
I mean, that's...
It tells you how little they care
about this wedding that they're putting into credits
are just going over and you're just like,
okay. I guess this happened.
In this.
movie where you have Robin Williams
and Nathan Lane
king shitting for two hours.
The freeze frames on the two of them?
Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that.
Well, to close of heart, I mean,
like she had nothing else to do.
So at least she gets that. I give her that much.
They should have just killed Val and the
kid. There's a whole like weird
double murder at the end of
Animal House where it's just like
Val was never seen again after going to Vietnam.
Yeah. Well,
also, you want an easy way out.
You throw Val off of the roof of the birdcage.
Let's see if he could fly.
Nobody's going to be paying attention when you walk out.
I guarantee you.
It's going to fly, Valie.
What is it?
At the end of the game?
Oh, we forgot to tell you.
Clarence Boddicker lives on the roof.
And that's the birdcage, folks.
That is it.
Great movie, great movie.
Hell of a picture.
There you go.
Hell of a picture.
Great movie.
So we got to start wrapping up
But we want to thank all you all for coming out
Give yourselves another big round of applause
Thank you
A round of applause for everyone to play the VHS trailer game
That's right
Thank you for throwing out Steve's tapes later
No hold on to those
Big thanks to the folks here at the State Theater
Who invited us this was so much fun
And we were most happy to oblige the invitation
Real quick cue
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Bubble folks, okay.
So for all the newcomers in the crowd,
the only way to end a We Hate Movie Show
where we've just been raucously going through a movie
is to check in with the source
of some of the greatest, grounded,
most intelligent film writing on the internet.
You guessed it, the IMDB user review section.
Now, we got a few here.
And I decided, you know, we love movies, you know, only one, one star review.
Okay.
So we'll get that one out of the way first here.
One out of ten stars, subject line, two words, bad movie.
Oh, wow.
Senator Keely wrote this one.
Three words, not enough birds.
Honestly, great call.
I got two things wrong with that.
I'd prefer to see more cages myself.
They're also nice.
User Susan Webb
written on the 21st of May 2002.
She might be dead.
Yay!
All right.
Susan Webb's dead.
2002, yeah, she's probably dead.
Go ahead.
So in 2002, Susan Webb wrote,
From what I remember of the original,
even though the characters are unbelievable,
They aren't this annoying.
In this film, everyone is unpleasant.
And now this is where I agree with Susan.
But Dan Futterman's vow wins the honor
as being one of the most unpleasant characters
I have ever seen.
I like her. I like her.
This is good.
She's got it.
She's got it.
Don't worry about it.
Why anyone would put up with his petulant demands
is beyond me.
Dead on.
Rest in peace.
Susan Webb is dead.
Susan Webb is dead is dead is dead
Susan Webb's in the eyes of the angels
I know that there wouldn't be much of a movie otherwise
But in the French film
I don't remember the sun being that much of a baby
Now what you'll notice if you go through
The rest of the one-star reviews for this movie
Is all these dickheads reminding you
I saw the French version
Look where do you think I learned it from
he's a very smart people
the film itself
is an exercise in predictability
I'm a fan
of a farce
but when it's this labored and unfunny
it can become tiresome
I have never quite got
Mike Nichols films
I think we're back in rest in piss
territory
I also don't know that you need a fucking rocket science
degree to understand the graduate
wit. Well, wait, hold on. What do they look at
out? Are they happy to be married at the end?
They're not happy to be married? Wait a
second. They're taking a bus out of the
wedding?
I've never quite got
Mike Nichols film, so that may have something to do
with it, and now it's going to be
right back to piss here.
And I think
that Robin Williams is a
vastly overrated
an actor, and I can think
of I can think, do these
people can't write, too, that's the other thing.
I got to say this stuff on stage.
Some of the worst grammar you've ever seen.
I think Robin Williams is a vastly overrated actor,
and I think that also has a lot to do
with the fact that I didn't like this film.
Fuck you, Susan.
Rust and piss.
Piss.
Rust and Piss.
Not peace.
Susan Webb is dead is dead.
We are back to Piss Town with that lady.
In the eyes of the devil.
It's not how that song goes.
That's like the weird owl cover.
Yeah.
All right, here we go.
Here's some good stuff.
But we're still going to make fun of it a little bit.
10 out of 10 stars.
Subject line,
Cé Magnific.
Oh.
Written in 2017 by someone still having an AOL email address.
I cannot believe how hilarious this movie turned out.
It is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
I can barely contain myself from bursting into laughter at just the thought of it.
Landed on pretty thick, A-O-O-W.
The acting is superb, the direction impeccable.
In fact, the entire production is
Trey Magnifice.
Yeah, see, this is what this is, right?
I never had so much fun watching a movie.
Tripien!
Each and every character is endearing,
and you get the feeling that each actor
was born for exactly that role.
Zootelot.
No.
No, no.
All right.
No.
I'm surprised
there were no
Academy Award nominations
for Nathan Lane,
Gene Hackman,
Robin Williams,
and especially
Hank Azaria.
Now hang on,
hang on.
Sorry,
no,
Dan Castelletta is in the audience.
Apologies.
Was it that you were
surprised that they wanted
Azaria to also get a
nomination?
yeah all right
that's fine
it's fine
that's fair
yeah
yeah
that's fair
uh
uh
hang
his area
as the entertainer
extraordinary
want to be
the Goldman's
faithful houseman
L.
O'L
I am laughing
as I write
this review
you must see it
and appreciate it
10 out of 10
excellent
was that the
Joker's sister
that wrote that
I love to
Sally Joker. Yes, it was.
Got a couple more here. Ten out of ten stars.
Subject line, I loved it. I bought it. Twice.
Written by Stewie in April of 2004.
I think the movie is fabulous. It's a wonderful comedy with great performances and tons of memorable moments.
Absolutely. Gene Hackman is great as the ultra right-wing senator.
Diane Weist gives an excellent performance.
performance as this underappreciated wife.
Deer in the headlights, Callista Flockhart
in a role pre... No, actually, Deer in the Headlights
was my editorial. Sorry about that.
It's a fair. Sometimes it just pops out.
I'm sorry. It's okay.
It's extra funny because this sentence
goes like this. Callista Flockhart
in a role pre-Allie McBeal gives
us a glimpse of her talent we will
see later.
Huge question mark. Let's move on.
Just a glimpse.
Just a...
peek behind the curtain, just a little one.
Yeah, you need to use like one of those eclipse cards
to view her talent.
Oh, wow, there it is.
That's it.
Remember, don't look directly at her talent.
You're going to burn your rods and your cones, dude.
But the show is stolen by Nathan Lane and Robin Williams.
They are perfect as the middle-aged gay couple.
Robin is fantastic.
Objection, Your Honor.
You can't steal the show when you're the leads of the movie.
Yeah.
The show's already been given to you, yes.
That James Bond stole the show, didn't they?
You know, that Michael J. Fox's Martin McFly just really stole the show, didn't he?
Yeah, that is weird.
Just the right combination of physical humor and, for Robin, rare understated delivery.
Nathan Lane, what can I say?
What can I say?
Anything?
No one else could have played this role.
I loved it.
I catch it every time it is on TV.
I have the VHS, and today, I purchased the DVD.
Oh, wow.
I give it two thumbs up.
Loved two wong fu as well, so maybe my taste is just a little more evolved than some.
Don't hurt yourself, patting yourself on the back.
I can't hear you.
we are family without picturing Gene Hackman and drag.
Must be why I just bought that song on iTunes.
When you get the fucking life updates from these people.
And that is the sign off to your review.
I don't give a shit what you purchased on iTunes.
Come on.
Just like you are so in need for that image.
Just be playing constantly in your mind.
Oh, Gene Hackman and drag.
While you're sleeping, you're playing the song.
Oh, there he is again.
There's nothing wrong with fantasizing about that.
I mean, it's nice.
Don't get me wrong.
All right, here we go.
Last one to close out the evening here.
10 out of 10 stars.
Subject line.
Gene Hackman in drag is a hoot.
Oh, wow.
Hoot.
That's just like an owl.
Subject line, or written by Bergdorf.
Goodman?
I don't know.
Just Bergdorf.
Well, I don't know.
June of 2022.
between Nathan Lane's bursts of laughter
screams and crying
and Hank Azaria Zagador
there is nothing but hilarity in this movie
Robin Williams gives a great turn
and of course
it's sad to know he's no longer with us
but just watch this movie
and you will have a gay old time
we've been we hate movies from New York City
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