We Hate Movies - S13: On-Screen Live! 5.1.23 Peter Pan & Wendy, Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret. & more!

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

On this week's On-Screen Live! the guys are chatting about David Lowery's Peter Pan & Wendy and Kelly Fremon Craig's Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret., checking in on this season of Succession (with a few spoilers!), reacting to the trailer for The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes, going over the weekend Box Office, and more! Be sure to catch us on the road in a few weeks when we play shows in San Francisco and Los Angeles—L.A. you're at a Low Ticket Warning! This is of course the audio-only edition of On-Screen Live!, if you want the full experience, check out the show on our YouTube channel. Watch live Mondays at 12pm/et or catch the replay whenever. While you're there, be sure to like this episode and subscribe to the channel! Set up notifications so you don't miss a moment of new content from us!  Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the so I'm What is going on? Good evening. Good morning. Good morning. Depending upon where you are finding us this fine Monday. My name is Andrew Jupin. This is on screen live. And we're going to get right into it. We got trailers to react to some dreadful trailers, we got box office numbers. We're telling you, and much more. We're all wearing a my best goddamn friends. We're all wearing dark colored t-shirts today. Perfect for a Monday. First up, you know him. You love him. Mr. Steven Sadek. Hello. How's it going, everyone? Oh, man. Smooth as can be. Absolutely. There we go. Get these buttons going here. No, Steve, I'm very jealous. I may

be wearing a hat, but tomorrow, you are I am indeed. Not Not floor seats. It will not be at the That's sadly. Yeah. Did you see it? Yeah. Dude, I texted you guys. At home. I got on the group chat. I had the Laker game on. I was like, we don't know

the next time you're going to get to see this guy in the wild, but Nicholson is on the floor at the fucking Nick game. Which is nice that it's not just him try to by fucking singer or whatever was like he just like he just like he just like he had to get some air and some paparazzo god of like that other horrible picture that was going around. I'm glad that he was able to get uh, that go. Yeah, totally. Uh, and, uh, someone else who doesn't appreciate a floor seat, but he does enjoy a good book. Mr. Chris Cabin. And if the dirty son of a bitch who directed Sophie's choice wants to get into a fight about it, I'll knock his goddamn teeth down his throat. He'll drink his own blood. Wow. He'll wish he will find his grave. And I will find the day.

I leave this earth. But it is a good performance by Meryl Streep. The Polish woman who is the fish. God damn, Roger. Yeah. Oh, wait. We're doing the show. Yeah, we're doing the show. Oh, okay. Sorry. The sea was angry that day in the Roger Ebert household. He was not having it. Oh yeah. Oh, you go first. I was going to do. I was going to do. We should say, Eric is not here. And usually we make up a mean joke about that. But not today. Today is Eric's birthday. And we celebrate Eric Cisca. That's right. That's right. And we hate movies paid time off. Yes, I offered, I offered, I offered, I offered, I offered, I offered myself for this episode just as a homage to, just so that he felt something. But you know what? I'm happy he has a day off. He's getting himself a good meal. Hell yeah. You, you eat up, you drink up, you smoke up, motherfucker. This day's for you. Uh, so here at the home office, we got a lot to get to today. So let's get into the box office. This is highest gross. Now, What a bummer.

Now, For this week, like, like, Yeah, what a bummer for Eric to be here to talk about the fact that number five at the weekend box office, the 40th anniversary re-release of Return of the Jedi, man. I love the old poster.

It's a fucking badass poster. You are absolutely right. It's pretty cool. I mean, they could have, I mean, that's the thing. thing. I mean, I mean, I know, I know, if they ever put the original cuts, they would shoot a box office. It doesn't matter what. You could put it up against whatever. The Avengers dick smack. And it would do fine. It would fucking blow it out of the water. It's just shocking. That's, that's why I didn't go, right? It was like, I was considering it because it's one of my favorite movies. It's, you know, the Euro's born, the whole thing. Like, I have a real affection for the movie. movie but, but I was really cool. But I know I got to sit through the bullshit. including like the revamped singer in the can't, which I can't abide by that. But this is Wildman

on just about 140 or what do we hear. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. About 475 screens. This grossed $4.7 million. That is not too shabby. Just further lines. the fucking pockets of Disney. They need it. They need it. They need to make. They got to make. They got to make. They're 17 more on the docket. Uh, coming up. So don't worry. We're getting ready. Chris Gavin. Here's a question for you. And this is for the group too. Yeah. We all hate Rhonda Santis says you have to. Yeah. It sucks. That one of one of one of them. I've never seen an unsexier person dressed up like a Dallas cowboy cheerleader in when when when when when my life. And when that motherfucker was rooting around the man, what a piece of shit. No public figure in the history of television has more not known what to do with his

hands than Ron. Oh, yeah. They are just ambient flowing next to him at all. Like he's a video game character. But what if, you know what I mean? Like what if he stopped his literal genocide? of trans people and was like instead what I hate I hate the Disney corporation most is not letting go of the original of Star Wars. Now here's the thing. The woke Disney corporation took it away from us. I want it back. Hey, hey, you are talking about a A plus, there have been many of

these. Ken Watanabe let them fight situation. Like, Ron DeSantis and Disney want to go at it. I'm all for it. Whoever wins, either way. Either way, like, like, I'm all for me. I'm all right. I'm all right. I'm all right. They are going to trounce this motherfucker. And everybody seems to know it with him. So that's really funny. Now, here's the thing, Steve. Like, I, it's a, it's an interesting way for him to reach across the aisle to make that demand. But here's the thing. Here's what you know. he actually feels. I don't get what the big deal is all about because the re-releases, you know, that asshole loves the special edition. Better special effects. More fun for me. Nothing is quite as good as Attack of the Clones. What we need is an updated five-hour version, the full cut of Attack of the Clones. everybody knows. Everybody knows it's the best Star Wars already. Besides, besides, that one's way sexier. Just a little programming note going forward. Ever since I've

heard that guy's voice, I am going to drive the car out of the way to be able to make fun of it. I'm just going to be like, oh, we're going this way? Just see what's going on. Speaking of his hands, dude, you got to get a fucking voice box scraping or something. I'm like a real fucking weiner, man. Oh, that's what a lot of pudding does to your throat. And more and more pudding. You wouldn't think so because it's such a wet substance, but it's actually a noted scientific fact. Now I'm just picturing him being like, more and more pudding.

That is him every night before he goes to bed to his wife. Someone who doesn't have pudding before they go to bed every night is Keanu Reeves. John Wick for well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, yeah, yeah, I guess I guess I don't. But I mean, just looking at him, probably not. Probably. He is someone who would look sexy dressed up like a Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. I bet you once in a while he does a banana pudding with Nila Wavehurst. I bet you could get into that. But yeah, John Wick for another five million dollars, man, at the box office here. Not too shabby. Keep going, Johnny. Yeah. Rolling along says a new time. in for this week at number three. We'll talk about it a little later. Are you there? It's me, the adaptation of the very popular Judy Blume book, which debuted from Lionsgate with 6.8 million, not too shabby. Not too shabby. I could have seen myself and my wife going out to see this yesterday, but we were besieged by torrential rain. It was a real, like, you're not leaving the house. It was brutal. This weekend in New York and the surrounding, metropolitan area was fucking horrible.

I got to tell you, man, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, or a little bit of, like, misting or something or a little drizzle and get to the subway. But this hard rain, dude, I'm like a big, fat brick of salt. Absolutely not leaving my house. No, sir. But, yeah, it looked good. I know Chris saw it, so I'm excited to hear what he says. It's good stuff.

Not good stuff. Evil Dead Rise was in second place. Not the fact that it's in second still. the box office. I just I just means I did not care for the I'm very glad that is making bank the box office including this weekend two with another 12.2 million under its

I'm interested I still want to see it at some point I know Andrew you despised it and Chris you were sort of in the middle I think there's stuff to like in the back end but I end of very very open I think at one thing everybody's been pretty agree upon I don't know where you land

on this Andrew but opening is very good. The opening is very good. The opening feels like I don't know I'd say despise it's see but I will say this it is that and we've ranted about this with other franchises like Hellraiser it to me felt

and I don't think it's true but it feels to me like a script where someone wrote a possession movie and then someone else was like why don't you make it an evil dead movie? Oh yeah that sounds great yeah he's right and then they made it evil dead and I don't know man if this was just possession in a fucking grody ass apartment building where I didn't have to think about like comparisons to other films yes maybe would have better for me see that's yeah you go I mean the the the problem for me was always that like I you always hem yourself in when you do one location especially when you don't you're not really interested in the even the like the the the surrounding parts of the place. It's all in that fucking apartment. It's all in that's all of the fucking apartment. It's a good. It's a good stuff. It's not. It's a good sense of place that they play with constantly. You can do that with an apartment complex, but you have to put attention towards it. And all they do is the kind of cool elevator thing, which is fine.

Yep, her name is escaping me, but the woman who plays, is fantastic, is fantastic. including all of the crazy body contortion shit. That was really great. It's interesting, I watched it on a, it was a double header that right after Bo is afraid. And then oddly, both movies feature characters menacingly hiding above a bathtub and holding themselves up. I thought that was Alyssa Sutherland Thank you. And then.

And then, again, Just fucking and sucking. Still just fucking and suck until the the sun comes up at the box office. Another $40 million in the fourth weekend of this movie. It is unstoppable. It's, yeah. Never going to stop. This is

like, I think what we're, I mean, we'll see because that's the thing is it only works if whatever works. Yes. And if that, then, we're just be getting a lot of Mario movies, which I'm going to get tired of very quickly. Particularly big on this one. But like, I read so, I forget if it was a variety or Hollywood reporter who just wrote this, like a

tribute to Jack Black saying Bowser was like his comeback. And I'm like, it just made money. Yeah, exactly. That's all that happened. Jack Black's comeback. He's been one of the consistent entertainers for the last 30 years. It's literally just because he's literally. That's all you care about. You're not talking about like as an artist. He's been doing plenty of interesting stuff. His voiceover work in Apollo 10 and a half is so much better than what he does. It's true. He's Pouser and he's just Jack Black. Like it's just it's so fucking annoying. Well, I was kind of hoping. I know they do a little, there's a little, it looks at least because I still haven't seen it and I probably won't until. I don't know we're taking some flights maybe that'll happen Primo plane movie I will see

we'll see if that's gonna happen but I know it seems at least from the trailer which shows everything there's a Mario Kart digression yeah I would like you know and that was a dumb idea because this movie is humongous

now you get a full Mario Kart movie and it's like you know kind of a Ford versus Ferrari oh Days of Thunder kind of a thing you know what I mean and like and just maybe we're following, I don't know, like, like, like, like, like, or Wallyioues just, like, like,

like, like, we're just, just watching them go around the world doing this stuff. I would watch that movie. Dry Bones is your Tom Cruise. Yeah. That's even better. Dry Bones. Right. Bones gets Tom Cruise's place. I don't know who's Robert DeVal. That's probably, that sounds like a Waluigi if I was going to, I mean, but he's, they're clearly going to be in the next super Mario. One of the wizard guys, he could do it. That's possible. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, did really well, I was doing, that's, best race in my life, man, that goddamn blue shell got me. Yep, that goddamn blue shell got me. Your finances are like a rocket, and you don't want it to explode on lift off.

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That's the movie. I live my life. I live my life. I'd live there. I'd be there. I'd be there. He'd be there doing something. I will say, Steve, the Mario Kart sequence in the movie, it kind of plays like fucking Fury Road, and it's awesome. They do a really good job in it. So you'll be like pumping your fist on the plane quietly. All right, there we go. Just some stuff floating around the art market here. Anita Manzour's Polite Society came out from Focus Features this weekend. And, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, I didn't, uh, didn't, I didn't get a chance to see it. It was at, I want to say sundance this year. Um, I didn't get a chance to see it heard a lot of fun things. Uh, the trailer, you know, they cut an okay trailer. I won't say it was a great trailer. Yeah, the trailer, actually, turned me off a little bit, I, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, what I, what I was a little turn off by is, I, I, I, I, I, yeah, but, yeah, I'm cutting things like, the everything everywhere, all at once trailer. And that was, like, wait, this looks exactly, like, and, like, and, like, that's a good call. From what I understand of the movie, it is not like that movie at all. Yeah, but, yeah, exactly. I want to give it a shot when it's, like, around and stuff, but, like, precisely. Honestly, honestly, I would have seen it this weekend, but again, fat guy made a, fat guy made a lot. I made a salt. Not going out in the rainstorm. Here's another one. Here's a big deal. Felix Van Goggin and Charlotte van der Smirches, the eight mountains. This was a new movie that came out. Very super limited release here in New York by our good friends at sideshow and Janice Films. And this, so remember those numbers I gave you for polite society. This was $36,000 on two screens.

Okay. So this. This did Bukubucks. It's supposed to be, again, it's pretty. It's very pretty. I, I, I, I've seen. Totally. So now keep the detail about on two screens, $36,000. Now we're going to bring in a new film from Romania where massive, massive film community. I love the shit that comes out of Romania. The new one from Christian Mengu, Chris, Chris, which, Chris, Chris, I was there. I mean, I mean, it's like, I mean, Romanian films, like, not all of them, I don't want to pay it all with the same brush. Yeah.

They are usually miserable. Now, are they... Very dour experiences. Some of them are more artistically rich while also being miserable. Yeah. But this one was, this is like probably my least favorite, Manju. And I'm like, even on a good day with him, like, you have to force people to go see these movies.

It's two months, man. It's the It's the same guy. It is It's from IFC films. $5.8,000 on two screens. So a tale of two movies, folks, for sure. And honestly, a tale of two marketing campaigns.

So that's what's going around the box office. A lot to see. A lot we have seen and a lot yet to see. Now, Steve Sadegh, before we mentioned it earlier, you mentioned it earlier. We're going to be taking some planes soon. Why is that? Well, we're going on motherfucking tour, baby. Oh, shit. Two weeks from today or tomorrow, I'm getting on a plan to go to San Francisco. I will not give my exact flight details. No, I did that once. Never doing it again. Yeah. You do that once the hard way. That's right. On May 18th, we are going to be at Cobb's Comedy Club talking about Star Trek for The Voyage Home. That's super exciting. Look at, look at sweaty Kirk, right there. I love it. This is the whale one. This is the whale one. Indeed, we are traveling back to the 1980s to get some whales. And that's a, you know, it's kind of funny because the second season of Picard did the exact same thing. There's whales? No, it's for budgetary and for Picard, it was like COVID shit. We're a, we're just.

just going back in time, so we don't have to build future sets. That's what, that's what voyage home is. We're going to San Francisco in the 80s, so we don't have to be bleep blarping the whole time. But I fucking love it, man. It's Leonard Nimoy's like, you know, he's ringing the bell about global warming. That's the deal. Environmentalism. Give me a can of tab. I must drink this beverage. Oh, yes. We're making similar jokes to the film. back to the future too. But then, Steve, Steve, Steve, I guess, God, is it? 522. 522. On Monday, we will be at the Hollywood Improv. Low ticket warning for our twins show. This is really like, probably your last week, you're going to be able to get tickets for this. And I really hope that you get tickets for both. But really, if you're in L.A. and you're like, me, I might be tired, figure out, you know, figure out. That's right. Don't wait for day of on this one. I don't think it's going to work out for you on that one. No, absolutely not. And we're unsure, because we haven't like checked it out to see if it would be possible. But if the show does sell out, we have a cool idea waiting in the wings that we're not going to mention because if it doesn't happen, then that's going to be embarrassing. Wouldn't that be embarrassing, folks?

I'll putting ourselves out there. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can't. But, uh, uh, uh, but, uh, so we'll see. We'll see. But yes, super low ticket alert, uh, for Los Angeles. That is for sure. Um, so we went over a bunch of stuff that has already come out and had its first showing or so at the box office. Uh, now let's check out some stuff that, uh, hopes it has a showing at the, uh, the box office in a segment. We've cleverly titled trailer segment. All right, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, at home, uh, uh, as I've started doing now, uh, in the show info here, in the video info on YouTube, uh, I have linked to the two trailers we're going to be watching, uh, so the first one at the gate, oh, it's this hunger graeme's prequel thing. I'm great. Everybody wanted me. Everybody wants it's based on a book. I think she did. I'm sure. Yeah. That's why you write you write the book so they make the movie and then you make the money. I got to say like we'll see how this movie does. But I got to say I'm already really like sat like Rachel Zegler was so good in West Side Story. And what she has had to like her the pitches as her for a star sense have been so like. horrible. You gotta do you gotta do you gotta do you got to four franchises. She's in that awful. It's crazy. Um,

um, so yeah, let's take a look here. Chris, just as a warning, we do have a trailer before the trailer. Oh, fantastic. Thank you. So I just, I want to get your heart ready. Oh, great, great. Fantastic. Uh, all right, gang, but here we go. We're gonna check this out in three, two, one, go. Hey, look at that bird there. Hey, it's a bird flying around. Oh, and a snake's gonna get him. The trailer premiere. I feel so honored I feel so honored to be at the trailer premiere. Mysterious piano music.

See, now here's how you fucking trick me. You put viola in this movie. Oh, and there you go. He's pounding something. I don't know what that is. I drink and no stuff. I wonder where he's done that before. Wasn't there that HBO

like Final Solution movie where they, It's about the guys in the guy. It's horrible. It's the guys. It's about the guys. It's about the guys. I mean, dinglidge is the dude who came up with this idea. I'd hate to see the ones that were like, nah, that's fucked up. That's never going to work. And also is like, he's totally jerking off to it. Oh, yeah, he's definitely jerking off to it. Yep. Yep. Oh, yeah. He always asked for the tapes in advance. Yeah, I wonder why. Oh, yeah. We all know. I will say this I will say this I'm a conspiracy I'm a young Tuchy no it's like an ancestor I don't know

maybe like well no because this other guy is Sutherland's character I don't know a couple decades or something but he's a relative it's not Tuch's character but the casting right there

is I will say pretty well done so it's like all right we're watching like the 10th of the hunger game. The movie is not even like the movie. That M&M? He went back in time. It's got to look like. Yeah. Thank you. I watched the first one and I was okay with it. But this world has never done it for me. Now. We didn't finish watching those movies. No, I didn't either. I think I have seen them all. Because the fourth one, which was like the third book split into two movies. like those were coming out. Fawfman died.

And they were like, we had to do some computer Philip Seymour Hoffman. And I was like, I'll never watch that movie. Yeah. This guy really does look like Eminem. This is. Oh, dude. Mom Spaghetti, dude.

Here comes. Look out for that mom spaghetti. You're going to wish you could make Mom Spaghetti, dude. When you're living in the Hunger Games world. Oh, dude, an audio from Sutherland. get the fuck out of here. that was, I mean, that was the character. I mean, I was the character.

Yeah. Coral Anis was his name, I believe. Whoever gives a shittess. I mean, yeah, I just like, why would you center something like that? I mean, I guess it's definitely going to be about like Zegler and this kid, but like that you want to know the beginning

of fucking Sutherland. It's so stupid. Baby. Just any of these ways we can get get, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's actually, I'll give it because at least, like, it wasn't like, uh, the noted snake J.K. Rowling being like, you know what I'm going to do? It's going to be a field guide. It's a bit, a brand new adventure with brand new characters. We're never going back to Hogwarts, folks. Yeah. Okay, we're going to go back to Hogwarts. Okay. It's about Dumbledore exactly. Uh, okay. You know what? It's, it may be, uh, Harry gets conceived in the next one. How does that sound? That's exactly why. That's exactly why. I mean, I haven't read whatever the book. I don't know if this is just in there anyway. But I would, I would tell you, probably the reason that they have it like the villain is becoming the major thing is because that's what fucking fantastic piece end up doing. Yeah, that's true. The fucking, what's it? The beginning of what's his face? Of a Voldemort and as the main thing. Sure. But this also looks like a way to like. reverse engineer more humanity for that's what? because that's what you're obsessed with.

you are going to hear my long-winded rant about when we talk about that fucking Peter Pan movie. This obsession with like villains can't be villainous and just nasty and evil, they got to be sympathetic because they got problems too. Fuck you. And that's what this feels like. Like, oh, he's going to fall in love with this girl that has to participate and he's just a person. He's supposed to be a fucking heartless villain. I don't give his shit. Listen, Hitler put his pants on one leg at a time like everybody else. And he had issues. You know what I mean? Precisely. Now, this next one is a real 180 in terms of what kind of movie we're talking about. This is John Ham and Tina Faye starring John Slattery's Maggie Moore's.

it's a new dark comedy from from screen media these are the same fuckers that are owned by that are owned by the chicken soup for the soul company just like

that secret movies poker face oh yeah same company you know John Ham Tina Faye I mean this sounds like box office poison to me well here's the

thing. If Faye wasn't because I'm still kind of, you know, you know, you know, you know man, that fucking Fletch movie. No, I know. I like John Hamm. None of his movies make money. It just, it's not. No, that's true. But that Fletch one would have, I bet, if it had more. Anyway. So, all right, let's get into it here. We got this trailer set up. Three, two, one, go.

Nice just green band. No, here comes the Maggie Moore's trailer. Oh, a yellow jumpsuit. Nick Mohamed I love this dude. Oh, like, no no offense to the fine people at screen media, but it's

you see the people in this movie and who made it and whatever and my first question is always why do you have it? Yes. why doesn't a larger company with a larger have it? That could be a warning sign. Is this guy anybody? I can see I can barely see shit.

Yeah. I like this kind of like small time crime small small time crime kind of a deal. Yep. And it's just goofy enough to problem is, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, I think you guys will feel this also. You're going to start seeing this more, I think, mayor of laugh town, like things like that, where it is a small town investigation, but with some more laughs thrown in. Yes. Yes. Because nobody liked how Dower east town was. Oh, I'd crank up the Dauro. I like that show.

It's one of these things where it's like Tina Faye appears to be playing like a true crime enthusiast. And I'm like, where's the joke about her fucking podcast? It's coming. That's what kind of I think sours me a little bit of the co-casting. She plays a really obnoxious character on that only murders in the building and it drives me fucking nuts. It's like a. It's like a Sarah Koenig. It's like a black. Yeah. I don't know. I will check it out. Here's the thing. June 16th day and date, folks. That means you'll be able to see wherever it is you know, very quietly dropped theatrically and you'll be able to rent it on PVOD the same time. Yeah, I don't know. Who knows? But I'll tell you this. We ragged on them. I think maybe both equally, I'll see that Maggie Moore's

more eagerly than that fucking hunger game. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a real movie where adults talk to one another. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So Chris Cabin, get us started here on the on screen portion of the program. Are you there? God, it's me, Margaret. You check this out this weekend?

Oh, yeah, from KFC, Kelly Freeman, Craig. I'm a big friend. I mean, she if you know or you know her from the edge of 17, she directed that. Sure. Haley Steinfeld and Haley-Hawritchardson, which is a really good movie.

has a really good supporting role in it. This is, I kind of, it's interesting, I kind of was hoping she would like do, like, as much as I like the tone of the Edge of 17, I kind of wanted her to do like an adult movie. And that's like, and she did stay in the teen mold. And I think she did a really good job.

Like, this is about as good as, as Just 17 to me. and it's from a book, I didn't read. I didn't read. I didn't read. I didn't. I didn't know. I'm sure. I mean, I didn't say for sure. But I think it's really well directed. Rachel McAdams. If you're a fan of Rachel McAdams, you have to see it. She's as good as she's ever been in it. Benny Saffty, who I am starting to really I'm starting to, like, like, like, like, like, like me and Andrew Differ on Stars at Noon, but I think he's really funny. I actually liked him in that movie. He was one of the only parts of that movie I enjoyed it. I think he's been really branching out and finding good

places. Even in the Star Wars show, I thought he was pretty good. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. And Kathy Bates has a really good role as her the girl herself was the was the original. I think she's Cassie Lane from the I remember how they recast because I think she's the original

Cassie. She's very good. Let me get her name because I don't want to be Which is kind of amazing that the girl still acts and apparently still a very good act you know because something does happen to your child actress to teen actor or to adult actor. There's sometimes is the girl, we're like, we're going to recast. We'll get the girl from freaky. It's just like, it's always weird though. Abby Ryder Fortson, she's very good in the movie. And she has a lot of really great scenes with Rachel McAdams. And the other famous version of that is who was, it was the, with the Independence Day. And they got. Oh, right. Michael Monroe. Yes. Oh, I'm forgetting her name.

She's her face. Her husband. What's her face? Yeah. I'm not. I'm going to Scott Pilgrim, right? She's also We know. We all know what we're talking about. We just can't get the name. But that's the last time. I remember something like this happening and being like Oh, all this for Independence Day resurgence. Like, why? Why? Why? Why?

Her name is killing me. I was just literally talking about her. May Whitman. May, it was great. It was obviously, A, she's just how much more. That's how much time passed between the two movies, et cetera. Right. Yeah. But you have to be hotter for, you have to be hot for Bill Pullman's daughter, I guess. Oh, definitely. But yeah, I highly, if you haven't seen it, I think it's worth going out to see. It's just a really good comedic drama. Uh, there's, a lot of stuff there that is very intimate. It was very well. Is it a period piece? Yeah, that makes sense. So here's something that's also a period piece. So yeah, like I mentioned a couple

times, I wasn't leaving the house. But thankfully, Friday was the premiere of David Lowry's Peter Pan and Wendy on Disney Plus here. And I got to tell you, here's here's a thing. I am sick and fucking tired of these screenplays where, we're, we're, like, we're, we're, well-established thing, right? And the way we're going to make it, like, new and interesting and fresh is, like, well, what if two of these characters who have been, like, two totally, you know, certain things and have certain, like, rules and story set up about them, what if we change that so that they, they were friends and they grew up together. And like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

like, sort of hinting at this. But it is, it is the dumbest fucking decision for this movie. We were, like, three quarters of the way through it and they really start hammering at home. Because, like, they drop little breadcrums throughout. And then they really start hammering at home towards the end. And I don't know if we, like, pause for a bathroom break or, like, maybe the movie was just playing. Chelsea was just like, this is so fucking stupid. I was like, like, like, uh, uh, uh, uh, like, like, uh, like, uh, like, like, I'm just, it's just, you know, you know, from, you know, the animated version or whatever the fuck. It is that story. The fact that it was called

Peter Pan and Wendy, I thought it was going to be like something, like a new adventure in Neverland. No, it's just a live action remake of the Disney animated thing. You change the title. It also looks terrible. I mean, the poster looks bad, honestly. This is just like, how this is because I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, there is not been a single, a Disney plus original streaming movie that has looked good or that I have been even marginally excited about. Like, I thought this was turning red, you know, and some of these other ones, they're animated. This live action, dude, it is so low lit. And then the color grading is so fucking like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

like, okay. Maybe this is just for like, foggy old London town. And when we get to never, never land, boom, I'm going to be smacked in the face with a functioning color palette. And we get there and it is just muted fucking peaches and pinks and. Why would you want color in a Peter Pan movie? I don't know that doesn't make sense. I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was not I was I was I was I was but hey the good thing is that you now can watch it on your phone that is the tradeoff you've made and I hope everybody's very happy with it because it does it looks like shit like I feel bad because David Lowry is incredibly visual director

and like everything about this screams like no you can't do that no you can't do that no you can't do that. There's this great shot of hook coming around inside the cave. The gator comes and it should be a ship. It should be it's all like brown. I'm just like nothing's pulling my eye. Nothing is making me look deep in it. I'm just noticing that the shot's well choreographed because it's David Lowry. He's going to do that. There's a moment where like, you know, it's kind of like the big reveal of the pirate ship when they all get on board and they do this like big like whoosh kind of shot so you can see everything. It's the grayest pirate ship I've ever seen. It's Peter you know what I mean? Like this is not like fucking Batman or I don't even know like the doctor baboose movie that we're going to make. You know what I mean? It's Peter fucking Pan. It is for children.

It should be colorful. It should be well lit. I will say. For how I bad this is, it is really bad, it is still nothing. I don't know if they're ever going to get close to how bad the remake was. Nothing has looked worse. Nothing has looked worse. I don't think I have seen anything that looks worse than that move. I, for the most part, or even almost perfect, uh, because Allison Wonderland doesn't count because that's a real reimagining of Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, it's not, It's not a I think we saw the I think we saw the cinderella movie.

I think that was the beginning and the end of me watching these live action rena's Cinderella. I think that was it and I think because it's such a stupid idea. It's such a monstrously stupid. I mean obviously Peter Pan you're going to make a million Peter Pan's anyway

but like any of these live action remakes and I'm looking at you fucking Little Bermade. It just cuts the throat of what made the original exciting which is animation. animation in and in it of itself is an exciting genre. It's, again, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and it's, and it's, in, and it's, and it's 86 minutes long and it's a fun little kids movie, big bang, boom.

And I mean, that's the other thing, dude, like, on the one hand, I do appreciate in this movie that there's a lot of, like, um, we're going to kill Peter Pan and, you know, Wendy's bound for execution and she's going to walk the plane. We're doing stuff like that, because that kind of ups the excitement a mostly, in a mostly, but it's just all the rest of the fun is just not there because it's so serious and, like, grounded. I don't need you to ground a movie where children literally fly through the air with a pixie dust on the point. It's insane. And for whatever it's worth, I think most of the performances are pretty good in the movie. Jude Law, I thought was pretty good. It's not as like crazy as it is doing

He is doing kind of like a grim, but it works okay because he's good. What is her name? Ava Anderson, who is the progeny of Milojovich and Paul W.S. Anderson. Wow. Yeah, she plays Wendy and I got to say pretty good. And dude, surprise of the movie. And I kind of think the best part of it playing Smee is Jim Gaffigan. He's actually, and he's actually, and he's actually, and he's actually. I mean, I don't think you can blame that movie on anybody, but is like, sure, like, Lowry definitely was taking a check. And like, the kids are doing their best with a script that is like mostly affirmations that you would get off like a peel calendar.

But like, I, I do David Lowry made a short like the old thorn like the old Rose love with Earl Haley. And she plays the assistant to Jared Letto and Blade Runner 2049. I'm forgetting her name

now. Yeah, okay. I feel like Dave McFly at the end of back to the future. When the hell did this happen? Sylvia Hoax. When did they make this? This came out. This was on, I've, I got the special, there's a special edition of the green night that comes

on it. it's 20 minutes long. It's 20 minutes long. Really That's cool. And if you want to see him just directing the shit out of a 20 minute piece, it's unbelievable how rich and detailed that 20 minutes is.

Yeah, I mean, I think David Lowry is a really great director. Credible director. I'll give shocked how much I didn't like this. Yeah, I was pretty late down. Something we've not been let down by and we're going to talk about it a little bit here, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, uh, uh, is succession season four, uh, the final season here. Um, Steve, you want to take the ball with this? just because, uh, I, I will say, uh, I have not, and Chris has not seen last night's episode,

uh, here in this house, we're still trying to catch up and finish Perry Mason, which has been excellent, but yeah, we just finished that last night. It was, it's really good. I'm doing succession first and we're going to move on to Perry Mason. Uh, but, uh, just to give you guys, uh, is a five second second episode. I am going to spoil the second episode of succession, which probably has been spoiled for everybody at this. I don't know how you escape it. Yes. Now we're going to talk about it. This season's been fantastic. I think it's really, I'm so proud of this show for ending. Honestly, like literally I get teared up because I'm like, oh, they figured it out. They know that this show, and especially like the last two episodes, including last nights, shows you a version of this show that, kind of could go on for another couple of you're, like, you're, like, you're, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, like, they do kill off Logan Roy in the second episode and it's a, one of the best episodes of television that I've seen in a really long time. Yes.

The way that they handle the surprise and handle, like, living in the world and, like, your parents being on the other side of it and, like, having to hear that horrible news and not being able to do that stuff while still being funny at the same time, which is what the show's always good at, but, like, what a tightrope walk, though, to fucking pull that off. It is. everyone's doing fantastic. these last two versions of like, what's, what's going to be like when the when Logan isn't there, the roy's have to fend for themselves and like all

these kids are like fighting and betraying each other to get to be top dog? That could be two more seasons, but very smartly they're like, it's just going to be a couple episodes. Like I'm glad that they killed him off early so we can see that because that's kind of always been the promise of the show. And honestly, this season could have started like the first. episode really could have, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, like, um, like, with like the episode description.

as, as, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's like, like, twist or surprise. It's like, oh, fuck. This is what it's. This is what it's about this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, Steve, I'm very happy to hear that it's going away because I was, towards the end of the last season, I was kind of be like, I'm kind of

I'm getting a little repetitive. All the, all the sniper. Like, like, like, I just in general, I've often said that it's amazing that this and Righteous Gemstones were on at the same time, because I think they're very similar. Yeah. And they're, but they are very different in how they approach rich people. Like, the rich are actually kind of disgusting in the righteous gemstones. Yeah. They're still kind of sexy in the Succession world. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I think you can tell that by how people talk about them. I want to fuck Kendall Roy is most of Twitter right now. Yes. Or I want to fuck Roman Roy. Or shares. I want to fuck. I think that is, that's why I've never been so hot on the show. But this season has been so good. Not a lot of, not a lot of, not a lot of hashtag. Not many. Not many. Oh, You're some Zaddy's going around there for that guy with the silver beard. One question, and I really liked Alexander Sarsgaard kind of in this. Like, it's, he's turning out to be a really great actor, actually. Oh. It's a really different, like, between the Northman, Infinity Pool and this, it's like three different. Like here he's doing obviously like an Elon Musk. kind of a rift, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I am going to buy your company, pedophile.

But, yeah, but he's incredibly immature and, like, obsessed with Twitter and, like, tweeting all the wrong things, et cetera, et cetera. And it's, it's a really interesting kind of villain for this last season because he is, and I mean, like, I think in this last episode, not a spoil anything, Jerry really just puts it out. We are done. You know, you know, you know, you know, it's all tech. It's all tech. Tech is coming to eat our lunch. That's why we have to get this deal done, et cetera, et cetera. And like that's what the show is about. That's what sort of, but also like in this last episode again, you'll see they're all so bad at it. They're all so bad at what they're supposed to be. Like even Kendall. Kendall like can talk a good

game, but he is so fucking bad at running things. And Roman is Roman. It's a little rambly here. I I, I, it's, it's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think, Steve, Steve, like, I'm not, like, like, plus column for, like, ending it. Yes. Yes. I don't know how much fucking, like, dick tripping I can watch. Like, that's not interesting. Like, it's not interesting to watch

people be bad at a thing. Yes. In most cases, especially in, like, a high drama. I will say just with the note on Jerry, um, you know, J. Jay Smith, J. Jay Smith, like, like, like, quote, like, you know, quote unquote, they've been so fucking good this season. And just, David Rash especially, you know, if you're not familiar with David Rash, he has a long history of using a very successful funny bone. And he puts it on display here so magnificently throughout. Was it? Yes.

Yeah. Sledgehammer. Yeah. Great. Sledgehammer. Oh, my God. Fucking hilarious. been so great. Peter Friedman, he was on the path, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

was a hoooo show that I never finished, but was good for most of it. He had single white female. Also, Fisher Stevens killing it this insider trading scenario. Oh, yeah. Oh, my stupid dirter. Accidental, oops, a doodle. I might have committed a crime. Kendall, can you help me? I just, yes. He is so slimy and so fucking good. I, it, I mean, again, it's, it's one of the better ensemble castes, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like this, like this two had a scene. Wow, that's exciting. What have these two had a scene? Wow, that's exciting. And I mean, like, again, that all leads to like, I'm sure HBO would have loved two more seasons of this. Like, they can just go on, you know what I mean? You don't need this, a crazy story. What if just,

what if Greg and Tom got got delayed at the airport? That's an episode of like, yeah, it is, but should it be? You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. I wonder if part of that is not, at least a little bit due to the show creator, the show writer, Jesse Armstrong, is Ella from the UK. those dudes over there know how to fucking end television show unless it's Doctor Who.

For the most part, Jesse Armstrong, creator of peep show and one of my favorite shows of all time. Well, actually, that's a co-creator of people. That's another show that ran an insanely long time. For the most part. It ran seven, but it was six of a pop, that's not, you know, you know, that's not, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, again,

again, again, and it's, again, and kill it. That's, that's, that's because of us. That's not because of you. Your people know how to fucking end television shows for the motion. I mean, I think European television in general is pretty good at this, you know, and to have, like, yeah, season six, episode 10 of succession, like, nah, dog. I feel like you would have lost people, so this is, I mean, I mean, if, if you could do some, if you could do something like Dr. who, just have Jim Broadbent play Logan Roy, after Brian Cox, you know, bites it like that. I mean, I can see you playing something with that. But yeah, otherwise, I think it's a very smart decision to just get rid of it.

Season five, Viola Davis is Logan Roy. I'd watch it. I would watch it. Dude, and then after Viola's done, she morphs into the next Logan Roy, which is Danny DeVito. I think that would also be awesome. Maybe we got something here, doctor's succession. But yeah, that's all the news that's fit to print this week, gang. Like I said, we are going to have to catch up on Succession before the internet fucking spoils that for us. We can't even wait 24 hours now, folks. On Twitter. No, no, no, no, no. But this is just the start of the week here on We Hey Movies. Of course, we got a lot of content. floating around. Steve, we got a special episode of we got a special episode tomorrow. What are we're talking about? And with we're talking about the edge. One of my favorite 90s dad movies. And I got my buddy, Brett McDuff, coming on, who's going to be a hawk at his book,

The Shotgun Conservationist. That's why environmentalist should love hunting. I wanted to have Brent on the show forever. Yeah. This is a perfect, him having a book out. And this movie is a kind of a perfect, perfect, perfect. you'll listen to us learn a lot about, if you've ever been like, these guys, these guys, these guys, these guys are we are corrected in real time quite a few times. Oh, yeah, it's great, it's great. We took a shalacking from Brandt during the recording and it was awesome. But that's a lot of fun. And then so on Thursday, folks, you got to sign up for that Patreon.

You don't want to miss out on the extra content. We give you here every month, Patreon.com slash we hate you. movies, but Chris Cabin, we have a, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, we love, um, um, um, we love movies episode coming out on what? I don't know. Guardians of the Galaxy. You're on the episode, dude. I don't, I don't remember.

It's been a week, Andrew. Yeah, it's been a week. It certainly has. But yes, uh, WLM all around Guardians of the Galaxy, proof in the pudding gang that one, we don't hate all MCU movies. I don't remember. It just depends. It just depends. It just depends. This explains it is I had to have this blanked out because of course I have I still have a long running contract with the MCU that I give them a positive, more positive press than the DC. I've renewed many years now. It's been since like 2010. you know, you know, you got to, you know, you know, you know, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, and then Steve. And then, we're going to, you and I are going to record something very special for the Patreon that's going to come out on Friday of this week.

Oh, well, that's that about. That is going to be the Picard making it so finale. I'm doing it, uh, like, uh, Amanda Plummer is Piccar. Picard. Um, she's having fun on that show. That show, I'm actually, I still have two more episodes to watch this week before Thursday, which I will. to be able to be able to be, I've really enjoyed it. unfortunately, we're the other two, but it'll be a fun nonetheless. Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

No, we wanted to do something because when the second season came out, after, you know, not being totally wowed by the first, it was just a like a crazy pack production schedule whenever that season two of Picard aired and we just, there was no time. So I'll give

some thoughts on the second season from what I remember, you know, I wasn't going back through at all. but I, I consider it's just a I consider it like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, season, Primo shit. Uh, only available this Friday on patreon.com slash we hate movies. Uh, but that is going to do it for this week, gang. Uh, we will see you next Monday here on the program back and better than ever.

We'll be talking to Guardians 3, I'm going to guess. That's right. Oh, that is going to be the big one, man. We'll probably, you know, I don't know, maybe I'll try to see that. maybe Thursday, late Thursday night or something. But anyways, until then, I've been Andrew Juppen. Steven Siddick.

Chris Cabin. Adios. Bye-bye. Happy birthday, Eric. Happy birthday, Eric. HBD. Oh, yeah. That was a HitGum podcast.