We Hate Movies - S14 Ep702: Pumpkinhead

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

“[Pumpkinhead is] not a major player when you’re dealing out October recommendations…I would argue, maybe it should be?” - Andrew  On this week’s episode, the Halloween Spooktacular contin...ues as the guys talk about the totally kick-ass Lance Henriksen horror vehicle, Pumpkinhead! How great is this big, Stan Winston Workshop-created monster suit? How bad does this witch’s house smell? And is there a functioning toilet anywhere in this town? PLUS: Steve dramatically reads the poem that inspired the film!  Pumpkinhead stars Lance Henriksen, Jeff East, John D’Aquino, Kimberly Ross, Joel Hoffman, Cynthia Bain, Kerry Remsen, Florence Schauffler, Brian Bremer, Dick Warlock, and George ‘Buck’ Flower as Mr. Wallace; directed by Stan Winston. Today’s episode is sponsored in part by James Allen Dot Com. Get 25% off your order when you go to jamesallen.com and use code WHM at checkout! Snag your tix now for our 10/26 worldwide digital experience where we’ll be talking FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE FINAL CHAPTER! Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Be sure to get in early and get your tickets for the WHM Holiday Extravaganza where we’re talking The Santa Clause! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, just another friendly reminder, folks. Never cross Lance Henrickson. It's Pumpkinhead. I'm Andrew Pumpkin. Stephen Shady. Eric Siska. Chris Harley. And we hate movies. We all go a little mad sometimes.
Starting point is 00:00:26 You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a title of one good scare. Sometimes dead is murder. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in! It is time to keep your appointment with the wicker man. They're coming to get you, Barbara. He's sick for fucks using one too many movies.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Now, Sid! Don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos! Movies make psychos! Movies make psychos! for creative. Put the fucking lotion in the bag. What an excellent day for an accident. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. The Sputacular continues with something I hadn't seen in a while, but I forgot how much I do enjoy it. It's Pumpkinhead from 1988, directed by Stan the Man Winston, RIP. The King. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:27 The best. Good little flick. Good little flick. It's a nice little compact little guy. Yeah, except for that pumpkin head. He's a little big guy. Bulbous. You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:38 And it's a monster in a suit. Uh-huh. And it's great. And it's like Stan Winston's like team did it. You know, so you know it's going to be good. Even though Stan the man himself did not have time to. Sort of unrelated. But what I was thinking about while watching this was you remember that XTC song from the early 90s,
Starting point is 00:01:55 the ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead? Oh, my God. Oh my God. So good. It's about the JFK assassination. Oh, okay. You see, JFK is Peter Pumpkinhead because he's got a big old Irish knog. And that was, it was on the soundtrack to dumb and dumber. It was, but it was the crash test dummies covering it. Yeah, I don't. Anyway, we're counting down the top hits of the 90s coming up next. Welcome back to GrungeCast.
Starting point is 00:02:21 The cardigans up next. I wish. We could just play. If we could just cut to music and go away for a little while. That would be great, right. And then everyone know that's the bathroom stuff. Dear, I fear we're faced with a problem. I have to piss. What do you think I was doing at fucking Purchase College Radio?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Dude, if you heard me play four songs in a row, I was taking a shit. Definitely. You have to do it. Yeah, nice drum and bass number going on in the pipes. Speaking of a Goldian on there. Speaking of cutting away really quickly, let play really quickly. Coming soon to theaters.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It's the VHS trailer game. That's right. Thank you. now in its third season, our 14th season. Yes, it's in its heyday. There is a returning champion. There is. Wow. Unz.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Pardon me? Champion. Yes. Well, yeah. That was like years ago. It was exactly years ago. It's like Trump talking about the 2020 election. Just now it's years ago.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Anyway, champion Eric Siska. Go ahead. That's right. It's the VHS trailer game. America's favorite game of obsolete materials. I am your J. Master Stephen Sadek. We are going to go through, as you know, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:03:34 task these gentlemen with questions that relate to trailers that I found on VHS's related to Pumpkinhead, and I'll get to that in a second. Oh, no, no, no, no, hold on. And you know, the scoring goes 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. If you buzz in, and you're out, you buzz in, and you
Starting point is 00:03:52 guess in correctly, you are out for the round. I can come back for the next round. Now, I had to go the two different YouTube videos. One was a Pumpkinhead VHS and the other one was a Pumpkinhead VHS UK rental tape. Interesting. The dates
Starting point is 00:04:08 of these movies are kind of like all over the place within the late 80s, so I will give you the year the movie came out. Okay. Do you want to rent pumpkin that? Yeah. And you're the trainers that come before it on the tape. Oh, I think we elected a few pumpkin heads to run the country.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I haven't why? Oh, my God. Boris Johnson. My God. That guy is a real fucking pumpkin head, pumpkin gut, pumpkin body. Who do I have to kill to get that guy down? Like, not him, but somebody else. Like, his, his surrogate who summoned him. By the way, why do we call it rounds, you know? Why not squares? We're squaring off, you know? Sure. It's rounds like a boxing match, you see. Right. But why do they, but why do they call it that? Because sometimes, dude, especially in the English language, like words can mean two different things. Really? Yeah. So round is like your round, round like your ass.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I wish it was Holy Crow that thing's got some miles on it Trapezoidal All right so here we go Round one From 1989 This was the only 99
Starting point is 00:05:10 89 89 89 Okay thank God This is the only This is the only trailer On the pumpkinhead VHS Okay
Starting point is 00:05:17 Game Masters Clue Here we go A rowdy high water mark For an 80s star Who left us too soon This actioner uses A low stakes profession
Starting point is 00:05:27 to deliver the maximum amount of violence as our hero goes against a Kazavetti staple slumming it as a heavy. A lot of info there. A lot of info. A rowdy high watermark for an 80s star that left us too soon. This actioner uses a low stakes profession
Starting point is 00:05:44 to deliver the maximum amount of violence as our hero goes against a Kazavetti staple slumming it as a heavy. Interesting. So it stars a dead fellow. That's sure. That he's a Keshevetti's guy Peter Falk Ben Gazara
Starting point is 00:06:01 A low stakes profession Chris Cabin Is this roadhouse It is roadhouse Of course For some reason I thought he died By 89
Starting point is 00:06:12 From the phrasing there Wow I mean I gotta tighten up these questions I think you gotta tighten up your brain dude This brain is out Out for repairs
Starting point is 00:06:21 All right Round 2 19 We got to get that long life. He died, what, like 60 years old? Yeah, but he died young. I wanted to see late Swayzee. Excuse me. Yeah, I wanted to see. He died like 55 years old. Well, you saw him. That's late.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Just take the loss. I'm proud and out loud. You couldn't think of it. Shut the fuck up. I'm entertaining our fans. All right. Round two 1987 here. A relatively obscure
Starting point is 00:06:54 sci-by-action thriller with more than just a hint of body horror this follows a cop and an FBI agent with something to hide, chasing a hard rock-loving, carnage-spewing alien menace through Los Angeles. Eric Siska. A dark angel, aka I come in peace.
Starting point is 00:07:10 It is not Dark Angel. That's what I was a good guess. A relatively obscure, but I think actually this clue probably works for both of them, sadly. A relatively obscure sci-fi action thriller with more than a hint of body horror follows a cop. and an FBI agent with something to hide,
Starting point is 00:07:27 chasing a hard rock-loving, carnage-spewing alien menace through the streets of Los Angeles. Oh, Chris Gavin? It's the Hidden? It is the Hidden for five big points. Good movie. Oh, great. Which one is that?
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's Kyle McLaughlin. And some other, yeah. And Michael Norrie. Yes, Michael Norrie. It's a lot of fun. It's cool. Jack's shoulder directed it. It's basically like an alien is hopping into different people's bodies.
Starting point is 00:07:54 and causing all sorts of carnage. These people don't know each other. How are they doing? You would like it. It's kind of like a body snatch. It's that and the action is insane. Like it goes, I recommend everybody do it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I actually did it on the Slezoids podcast, actually. I was thinking of, what was that Robert Forster movie? The protector, I think, baby. That movie. That's a good one. That's what's going on with these aliens. It turns out I am one.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Oh, no. It's so funny. I went in the bathroom, found out, as an alien. Him going like, yeah, sense of human. Yeah, we don't got that where I'm from. Anywho, yeah, I'm a cop chasing a serial killer alien. Oh, yeah, I know you can't tell which, am I the cop or is he the cop?
Starting point is 00:08:36 We'll see. No, yeah, Jackie. It actually makes the most sense to go into bail bonds as an alien. You just know where the outsiders are going to be. There's definitely one part too where like he gets like burned or something happens and he's like, yeah, I'm waiting for my skin to grow back. And he looks like fucking Lou Gassu Jr. and enemy mine a little bit. What year is that?
Starting point is 00:08:55 90. Oh, I like. Yeah. It's honestly, it's so much stunts. It's well worth your time. It's kind of nonstop stunts. And also it's directed by the guy who did witchboard. Oh, so you know, it's like just got a hint of crazy in it too.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's a lot of fun. And so that's the protector. Also, also the hidden, by the way. But I think both could, you could add those to your spookacular. Yeah. For sure. Especially since aliens are around now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:20 We know that. UFO reports? Tom was. right, dude. Round round three. 1686 now. Go back to the year
Starting point is 00:09:31 of 1986. Crack was king. Game Masters Kalu. Often cited as the I got it, by the way, sequel. This one swapped
Starting point is 00:09:42 one legendary director for another one and up the pace in high action adventure and Andrew Jupin. Aliens. It's aliens. Nice.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And our hero in return albeit a bit more bad ass. So that, there you go. Aliens with the dollar sign, remember. Relevant to our conversation, Lance Henriksen, if that movie didn't work out, he was going to quit acting. Like, apparently, like, he'd just been, like,
Starting point is 00:10:06 kind of sick and just doing, like, these little bit parts. He's huge in that movie, so it's a kind of... Do you think he would, like, work at a fruit stand out in the middle of the country? How many apples do you need? You know what? That's too many apples.
Starting point is 00:10:20 No, yeah, you know, on the side, I'm a knife sharpener. I got a wheel and I just put it in the truck and I go around. A side hustle. Another piece of trivia about Lance Hendrickson on the set of aliens when he went to the UK to shoot it. He was training himself to do that knife trick. And like, he was like, oh shit. I went to TSA and I have like 15 knives.
Starting point is 00:10:41 They almost didn't look at me in the UK. The knife trick of like stabbing between your fingers. You acted it out and people can't see. Knife trick from aliens. It's like a, you know, it's like a mafia. You call it the mafia. time killer. You know, when you're like some fucking Coomba's waiting around the hideout, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Oh, yeah. We do have one more to go and we can actually talk about Pumpkin Head. Round four, 1989 again. Okay. Game Masters Clue. Well, this movie sure as hell saw the last movie we were talking about, this time taking that formula to a deep sea mining operation of a
Starting point is 00:11:13 Russian freighter where an all-star cast of character actors get picked off one by one by a monster's carer. I, Andrew Hupin? The abyss? Incorrect. Leviathan? It is Leviathan. And again, I think that
Starting point is 00:11:26 it can kind of go for both, but Russian freighter is the one thing. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never saw it. Deep Star 6 is the other one I think. Oh, yes, that's a good movie too. That's pretty weird. I've actually never seen Leviathan, but it's a awesome cast. A lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You got Peter Weller, Richard Crenna, Hictor Elizondo I'm looking at. Daniel Stern, Ernie Hudson. Oh, yeah, baby. That's what you want to be. And Meg Foster. Yeah, exactly. Ooh, Meg Foster.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I love her gray eyes. The monster kind of looks like the relic monster a little bit. Pretty cool. It's a standard, like, just give me all the underwater creepitude. I will watch those movies. Yeah, I really like creepy underwater shit. What about creepy backwards holler shit? I also love this.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And I'll tell you right now, I think Pumpkinhead is a movie that it's not like a major player when you're like dealing out October recommendations. I would argue maybe it should be Yeah It's a cheap as fuck movie They made it for like $13 million or something
Starting point is 00:12:29 I think it was last It was three Oh three Yeah Take that 10 off there But it's like It's that great Like it's economic filmmaking
Starting point is 00:12:37 Clearly Stan Winston Like knew what he wanted knew how to get it Like from all reports He was great as a director Like everybody liked working with them You know I don't think this was a huge
Starting point is 00:12:48 Smash sensation So that's like No maybe why one of his next huge things was a Michael Jackson music video and that's about it. Which one? Ghost? I think is the name of the song. I don't know that one. I was hoping for Captain E.O.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Remember the time. This movie was released twice in theaters because like De Laurentis went out of business and sold the UA or United Artists and then they put it out and they put it out again and it did and they got four million I guess for it all together at the domestic box off. It's a money.
Starting point is 00:13:20 The problem is, the problem is, though, you released it under its original title, which was a bit off-putting for audiences, I think, which is indeed Blumpkin. And that was a real way. You can't even put that in the newspaper listings. They were trying to work with the title at one point called Vengeance the Demon. Terrible title. Haller Monster also. And this is, is this the, it's great.
Starting point is 00:13:44 This is like a part of California they shot in that I guess has hollers. A lot of hollers. This is like a dusty, Baker's Field as piece of shit it is and like the red lighting I'm like
Starting point is 00:13:55 oh so we're in just in hell yeah we open on a farmhouse it's 57 it's 1957 you could have said 1857
Starting point is 00:14:04 and I would have believed you honest to God yeah because this is some real no toilets for 50 miles
Starting point is 00:14:11 kind of stuff Buckflower you know 40 years later ain't living much better honestly him and his
Starting point is 00:14:17 clan it is like a hillbilly paradise, dude. Just this like, we can live up here. There's a crick for whatever water we might need. Definitely not flush in toilets. Well, later
Starting point is 00:14:29 the little kid Bunn takes them to the the burntout church. It's like, yeah, they tried to bring religion here for a while. It didn't work out. And I'm like, where are you? That's the thing, dude, this little enclave of wherever this is supposed to be USA, like even God said
Starting point is 00:14:45 no. Yes. It's amazing. The witch later has a line about where pumpkin head is buried at a razor back graveyard holler or whatever. Yes. That sounds like it was written for Arkansas, but we filmed it in California. Yeah, for sure. Oh, that's a good call. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Or Ozarks in general, I guess. There's a weird thing here that I don't know how many times you get to see it in opening credits for a movie. It just says, inspired by a poem by Ed Justin. No, it wasn't. Let me right over here. No, it wasn't. Whatever you, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Well, the little like sing-songy thing that all the hillbilly kids tease the littlest hillbilly kid about, that is the lines from the poem. Do you got the poem right here? Would you like a dramatic reading? Oh, please. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Keep away from pumpkinhead unless you're tired of living. His enemies are mostly dead. He's mean and unforgiving.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Laugh at him and you're undone. But in some dreadful fashion, vengeance, he considers fun. and it plans with a passion. Time will not erase or blot a plot he has been brewing. It's when you think that he's forgot that he'll conjure your undoing. Bolted doors
Starting point is 00:16:02 and windows barred, guard dogs prowling in the yard won't protect you in your bed. Nothing will from pumpkin head. This is like saying Igby goes down is an adaptation of catcher in the rock. Also? No, no it's not. stop. Also, Columbine
Starting point is 00:16:19 by Dave Collin. Well, of course. Pumpkinette. But this poem sounds like now like, don't laugh at him, are right? It sounds like we were maybe envisioning a guy with a pumpkin for a head. Which would be cool as fuck as well. I want to see, apparently they're
Starting point is 00:16:37 rebooting this soon. No, is that right? I believe so. Paramount is now mining all the old IP. Yeah, get it all out there. Jesus Christ. Well, maybe it'll be like that secret Pet Cemetery show that's happening right now. Wait, why? It's a Pet Cemetery movie. It's a movie, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And it's like Pet Cemetery Bloodlines or something. It's coming out. We're recording this October the 4th in two days. Oh, wow. You bet you sweet ass I'll be watching that shit. In the theater? No, no. I believe it's Paramount Plus exclusive. But how stupid? I mean, the Nun 2 is taking
Starting point is 00:17:08 America by storm. You're not going to put a horror movie in the fucking theater? I know. And I mean, the last Pet Cemetery did so well in theater. I don't know why they wouldn't Well, but that was, to be fair, that was still like the early days of like, are we going back to the movies? That's a good point, but also if it did so bad,
Starting point is 00:17:27 why make another one? I don't know, but as someone who saw that Last Pet Cemetery in theaters, it was righteously terrible. It's really bad. You had, uh, what's his name? Lithgow as like the Ed Gwynn character. It's basically just the first movie kind of redone. I think this is like a new story, but I'll
Starting point is 00:17:46 tell you what's selling this new one for me and think of me what you will. My man, Big D. Dave Dukovny is one of the stars of the movie. I think he might be maybe father of dead kid or whatever. Oh, that's a good I don't know, Scully. Mittens lived a good life. Should we put her
Starting point is 00:18:04 back in the pet cemetery? I saw Pam Greer in the trailers. Oh, cool. You're talking me into this movie. Now, oh, now we're talking. I like the opening credits like great glowie credits. I also think if you are one of my favorite bars
Starting point is 00:18:20 does this, if you're a bar, this is a good bar movie. A good movie to be playing on silent when people come in during the holiday season. Yeah, sure. I can see that. The horror season, you know, oh, what is this? And then like a pumpkin head. Oh, it's pumpkin head. That's Pumpkinhead right there. Because you can like sort of slowly, with it on mute and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:38 a beer in each hand, you can slowly get tricked into watching it because you like the start of this movie, like it is some of the saddest shit you will see Oh, sure. And it's like, oh, what's that? Dead kids, I, whatever. But then you turn back. And then there's like a monster and you're like, but the kid was dead. Now there's this monster. What is this movie? Yes. And it's pumpkin head. It is pumpkin. I do. Yes. I just, I love the huge red lighting from this farmhouse where there, I mean, there is no life. But apparently the evil has just consumed everything. Yes. And it's a farmer and his wife and his son. Baby Lance Henriksen. Baby Hendrickson. Oh, baby Henrickson. This dad looks a lot like Paul Bartel from eating Raoul and chopping ball and shit. I've seen this guy before. I forget, though.
Starting point is 00:19:25 He's in a ton of shit. I don't remember his name right now, but he's in a ton of shit. I looked him up because I thought it was Paul Bartel. Outside, you were hearing the screams of the damned as they are about to meet pumpkin at it. And you hear one of them say, let you know, letting you know a little bit, I didn't hurt that girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 You got to let me in. It wasn't me. please. He's going to kill me. I think considering what Pumpkin Head has for powers, he likely will throw me against something. He will scratch me. Lift me up high
Starting point is 00:19:56 and drop me from a distance that will kill me if I fall on a rock. I'm sorry, I am, but I can't risk my family for you, Clayton. Yeah. Clayton. First of all, Pumpkin Head's powers, you're right, not so supernatural. He's basically a rancor just running around.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Right, but he's brought back to life from some, you know, witch. That's kind of something. Made it haggis amazing. The Scottish, oof. Right? Is that Scottish? It's a Scottish dish, which I've had before. And you know what? I think it gets a bad rap. I've had haggis. It was quite delicious, actually. By the way, the guy playing this Clayton guy is Dick Warlock.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Oh, wow. The shape from part two. And I guess he was like the stunt coordinator on this movie. That makes a ton of sense. Amazing. But he's the one begging for his life. It's kind of cool. I mean, it's a cool. opening and you know you see the idea of imagining what Lance Henriksen looked like as a child it's not this
Starting point is 00:20:51 no but you know what it is though like that fish that crawled out of the water and got legs no it's like if you saw a picture of Lance Hendrickson I feel it's probably like those old timey like these people move to California 1910 it's just like soulless scared children
Starting point is 00:21:10 yeah Benjamin Button children yeah it's just a little more shrively than they should But it's important Ed, little Ed Harley goes to the window and sees pumpkin head and his mother to calm him down
Starting point is 00:21:22 gives him sick cigarettes which sets him on his way to become Lance Hendricks Of course Thank God they didn't send him to bed without his supper which is sick cigarettes And here he goes sunny boy
Starting point is 00:21:32 Just smoke these You'll relax Now little Eddie This is Scotch Scotch whiskey And you're just gonna want take a nip of this every night before you go to bed
Starting point is 00:21:40 You got to do it man It's important to think about your health You got to smoke you got a drink. So I think Pumpkinhead kind of just choke slams this guy. Because when Lance,
Starting point is 00:21:50 like Lil Lance Hendrickson looks out the window, he's just holding this dude up like he's the undertaker. Yeah. And I like also that we reveal pumpkinhead pretty early.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Not fucking around with it. You know? I mean, it's a good design. It's a weird design. There's like, well, what's that bone do?
Starting point is 00:22:05 Like kind of stuff going on with old pumpkin head here. It is bizarre. I think every time he's like done with his mission, right? He's like folded back up and put back in that tree trunk.
Starting point is 00:22:13 So like, things are getting broken and misplaced and everything. And maybe this is why they, you know, thought maybe we'll market this as, oh, it's a demon movie. That's a demon, you know, because we do eventually find pumpkin head is in a graveyard of sorts in a pumpkin patch in a graveyard.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But, yeah, he doesn't really resemble a human being. No, no. And he has the demon tail with the little thing at the end. He does have an appointed tail, dude. It's pretty great that tale. And you know what else is pretty great? This must have made you happy, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:43 no date when we jump to the present. It's just the present. I really, you know, it's something else, right? Oh, it's 2023. But it's not. It's 1988. It is. I'd rather they just date it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And I know they don't want to do that, especially a movie like this that fell into this turmoil of where are we releasing it. When are we releasing it? Right. Why are they having all these problems? Why aren't they just using their cell phone? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Come on, guys. What the hell? Flip phones, at least. Are they going to address COVID in this movie? Oh, I think that's a match. Oh, no, no, no. That's just paper. Dude, you are introduced to Lance himself here as an adult. Shirtless, using a flamethrower to like just burn grass.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And now that's living. Oh, yes. Time to mow the lawn. Rock, rock solid abs on Henrikson, as always. As advertised. Stone cold abs. And he is. wearing these like hillbilly teeth in this movie
Starting point is 00:23:45 just to sort of funkify himself a little bit? I mean, dude, you have to. Yeah. You can't be this kind of a guy and not have funkified jumpers. Sure. He's got to look like, you know, he's almost a zombie himself. Because if he had good teeth, I'd be like, so he visited the witch already. You got to fix these.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yo, get pumpkin head to do some dental work on me. Use your dark magic to make my jumpers look human. All right. I'm going to summon some floss for you here. you know what also take 20 pounds off and give me a chisel dabs yeah oh i can't do that and holly but if she could man i'd be going to witches all the time oh for sure like yeah fix this sorry eric siska you already used your soul last christmas because you ain't too much yeah oh yeah i did you were like oh haggis i don't want to be full and that's why i won't i won't
Starting point is 00:24:42 that pumpkin head kill that guy for looking at you with on the road the other day. You know, it's really supposed to be pumpkinhead coming out for moider. Maybe an assault or some kind, but not looking at you's cross. I could have called Pumpkinhead the other day. Oh, really? Oh, my God. The cross look, this guy gave me. Where was this?
Starting point is 00:25:06 I was outside of a brewery, and I was parking the car. And this guy in the parking lot almost hit me with. his car and you like your body or ran into your car ran into my car and uh then he started like driving around my car giving me dirty looks okay it's one of these guys you know one of the upstate new york guys with a beard so they think they're strong oh sure yeah and he's got his fucking kids in the car he's got like three shit eating kids it's the best time to freak out in public exactly and then like he's like hey tough got and then i get out of the car i didn't i don't think he expected me be as tall and big as i yeah
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah, yeah. And then he left. Oh, really? Oh, he yelled, hey, tough guy. Looked at you and then sped off. Yeah, yeah. That's amazing cowardice. You're going to get pumpkin-headed.
Starting point is 00:25:53 From him? Oh, yeah. He's going to the witch holler type for sure. Dude, do you think he's doing the McGruber? He's just writing down your license plate repeatedly so he doesn't forget. I hope so because if he tries to, I know he has children. Henrietta, Henrietta, stop crying.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I'm intimidating this man. If parents hate him. anything, it's their children going missing. That's what I've heard. Which will happen if you look at me. Get into squash head, which is just you with a squash. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll squash his kids' heads too.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Interesting role here for Lance Hendrickson loving father. Yes. And stunningly, like he does it well. It's not a thing where it's like, I love you so much and you're like, that's terrifying. He's like, I love you, boy. And like it actually works.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Genuine actor, this guy, the genuine an article, Lance Henrickson. They're playing like pranks on each other. He only had to do it for 10 minutes. So, you know, no, we're not, we don't got to talk about how your mother had that accidental trip off of the highway pass.
Starting point is 00:26:56 We don't got to talk about that. He is widowed in this movie. Yes. Well, do you do that was pumpkinhead related or not pumpkin and related? Oh, no, that was bumpkinhead. Oh, I see. It was a sexual accident. Okay, so she was giving him head on the toilet. And then what? A clock fell off and hit her?
Starting point is 00:27:12 No, I think it was like she kind of, the water was wet. She slipped back, hit her head on the back of the tub, you know? Classic accident. It's like final destination before all sucks. And sadly, as she was dying, she had a vision of what the flux capacitor would be. That's right. But she didn't have time to write it at you. She tried scrawling it.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But what came out was actually the design of this kid's cheap ass necklace that he makes, Lance in this movie. Here you go, Daddy. I made your present. And like, again, this, I'm telling you guys, I'm telling you, I would not be able to lie to my own child if they presented me with something like this. look this shitty, it would just be a polite, like, mm-hmm. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:27:47 No, how long can tell I can throw this out? Spit in their face. The kid, by the way, we should say it's like a proto-Jonathan Limpnicki. Yes, absolutely. Like, legit eating these Coke bottle glasses. Surprisingly, he has not really morphed into an
Starting point is 00:28:04 actor, but he's like an adorable little kid. Sure, yes. You can be. Which makes it all like the more sad when he's run down by. this motorbike in t-minus seven minutes in this movie but yeah the screenwriter said they were inspired by bava movies which i totally buy just like i don't know something about this group of kids seems like they could be on the italian countryside going into like the wrong house well especially because you have like joel uh the guy who played todd gack on seinfeld and like his lady friend
Starting point is 00:28:34 and they're like driving the european sports car oh hey fun boys we're going to go up to the pumpkin and cabin. Also a desecrated, rotted out church with things overgrowing it. You find that in every goddamn one. We have cocktail and then play motorbike. Oh no, I guess we'll just stay at this dirty church. Oh, no. There's demons everywhere. Oh, look at that witch. She's so disgusting, no. Now, here's another band that sounds like Marotta.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah. Oh. The old witch is also definitely above a staple. A lot of witches for it. And that I actually think is the best stuff in the movie when Lance Hendrickson is going to the witch's place and the witch's place. Oh, yeah. That's my favorite stuff. By the way, anyone notice who plays the guy that last the whole time almost? Jeff East,
Starting point is 00:29:26 you'll know him as young Clark Kent from the Superman the Motion Picture who was dubbed over by Christopher Reeve himself. Oh, really? Oh, which powers. I couldn't even shave him. This guy, he's a little too old for the rest of these kids. you know what I mean like yeah because Superman's like what 79 that's like a decade yeah and he's just kind of like and you see him he's like oh hey christie has it going and I'm like dude you are looking like 30 something it's like they're all supposed to be like high school kids and like this guy is like the college boyfriend yeah maybe or something like that but yeah so like whatever
Starting point is 00:30:01 this intro scene like you just get their home life you don't know right away like that he's a We do see her tombstone later in the motion picture to confirm that. But like, they live alone. Jerry's still out on whether there's a toilet in this house. I think we're hoping for it now. You think of, no, yeah. I think it's an outhouse situation. There is a hole somewhere.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I don't know what's going around around it. There might not be running water in the county is what we're saying. It's possible. Also be like a plastic bag. They use like a bedpan. Like, oh, I just went, Jr., here you go. throw it in the crick when you're done with it.
Starting point is 00:30:39 That's how you get a pumpkin head. You keep slopping shit into a crick. Something's going to rise. And then go bathe in it and brush your teeth in it. We don't waste shit in this house, boy. We use it as much as we can. And it's a weird, like, it's the middle of the day. And he's like little kids like, hey, it's story time.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I was like, is it? Because it seems to me like it might be 11.30 in the morning. And it's like, oh, junior, well, there's once an old man that was sad, but he had the best little boy in the world. Oh, yeah. Who never is going to die ever, ever. No, no, it's not a bad ass. It's about someone else.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Dude, he starts telling this story and you're just like, oh, this kid's doomed. Yeah, exactly. If you went into this movie not knowing anything about it, you see this dude starting to tell this specific kind of story, the clock is ticking on this little fucker. And then the child took over the grocery store that nobody used. and then he lived a long life of sleeping underneath the grocery store that nobody used. This is a real like war movie.
Starting point is 00:31:42 When I get back, I'm going to marry my best girl and take over my dad's business. We're going to have four kids. No, five kids. And it's like, no. Well, they've got the sign when we see the general store here. And it's, what is the name? Harley and Son. But it's like Harley, grocery or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And then in just like the most slapdash paint job. and son crinkled on like the corner of it. That's sweet. I have now decided since I have fathered a child, it's the and son grocery and he will take it over. So this kid's like a six-year-old assistant manager. That's right. Yeah. You put his name on the building. You don't have to deal with the government and pay permits and kids work. Kids can just work if their names on the side of the building. Now, the dust is going to reappear every 25 minutes. So you got to be prepared to take it off the apples in the floor. This is like grapes
Starting point is 00:32:34 of wrath, oaky shit. It definitely is. So you see like, yeah, they go to open the store. Meanwhile, we're doing some cross-cutting. All the youths are coming up. And we got a van full of most of them. And then Todd Gack and his lady friend driving the sports car and like, give me
Starting point is 00:32:52 a beer, hon. Dude, yeah, the road soda right here. It's a little early. I mean, it's a little bit driving too. So it's half past behind the wheel. I'm on vacation, babe. That's a good point. And we also find out later
Starting point is 00:33:08 on, you know, it's an important part. Todd had an accident a couple of months ago where a girl was hurt and he's on probation. Maybe a Christy should be driving first. Sure. Yep. And then you can have, I mean, you shouldn't be, but you could have all the beers you want. I mean, you're still breaking the law
Starting point is 00:33:25 but it's a little more tolerable. But you're out in the middle of fucking no toilet country man. Like it's not going to matter. You know, you can sit there with your road so And if anything, you pass by sheriff, whoever, you know, oh, put that shit down, put that shit down, put that shit down. And you'll be fine. No reason for you to be behind the wheel here, Todd, Gack, or Joel. And since there's no bathrooms anywhere, you just piss out the window while you're driving.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Or like, you let your lady friend drive. You're standing up, convertible mode on. That's not a bathroom, and Holly, that's my house. Could have fooled me. I mean, that's- Pissing on my living room right now. And howdy? Todd Gaggd strikes me as the kind of man
Starting point is 00:34:06 who wants a lady wants to drive a car. He's like, well, we can't, we're not going to get there. You're just going to be doing your makeup the whole time in the mirror. Yeah, looking behind you like you should. I want to get there sometime today. And you're going to be getting lost and shit. And then you're going to be driving soberly. Do you know how fucking unexciting and slow that is?
Starting point is 00:34:26 The dynamics of the group are interesting because it's, it's, uh, Joel and his goal. girlfriend are in the sports car. He's drinking a beer. He's an asshole. Then there's Steve who's got a headband who's Joel's brother. Yes. And his girlfriend, who's name I don't remember. She's the religious one. Maggie. Maggie. That's right. And then there's, uh, is, I forget who Jeff East is Clark Kent is. Chris, I think he's Chris. He is Chris. And he's got a girlfriend all his own. And no one in this truck likes Joel. And like everyone is just like, so I guess there's a thing like, oh, cool, so-and-so's got a cool cabin,
Starting point is 00:35:00 which is a very cool cabin. You know, we should go there. We'll have a great weekend. We'll bring the dirt bikes up. He's like, my, oh, awesome. Sorry, my brother Joel's going to come. Oh, fuck. You told him, you told Joel.
Starting point is 00:35:13 You know, then it's trips off, man. Trip has to be, I don't spend the weekend with this asshole. You don't want someone, like, when you're on a trip, you don't want someone to be commanding. You don't want the one guy that's like, I'm the one, you know, I'm the captain now. Yeah, yeah. The other lady friend there is Tracy.
Starting point is 00:35:28 played by Cynthia Bain. Who survives? Yeah, the final girl. Sure. Who's also, I think she might be the lady friend in spontaneous combustion. Oh, very nice. Pretty good little movie there.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's kind of a state tune. They'll be fun to talk about. I would like to talk about that movie. I like when people blow up. It's pretty interesting how they do it too. We get a little like a little bit of a nod to Texas chainsaw here. There's a guy walking up the road and then
Starting point is 00:35:53 like a hitchhiker. And like I think Steve is like, oh, that's the guy that that gets people's feet off but eats the eats it. I heard a story about a guy who killed his wife and he ate her body to hide it. Like they had the foot. They found the foot with a bunch of carrots
Starting point is 00:36:09 and a stew or whatever. Foot stew. This was the guy. This was, it's just, you're just pointing at hillbillies going like, he's a kill. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:17 this is the murder. And I mean, here's the thing. The way, I mean, like we've all, you know, we're all city folk.
Starting point is 00:36:23 We've all gone off the beat and past. That's true. You were. a while. I was a hollerman came down to learn your big city ways. Because I kept getting conned back upstate. Well, that's what happens to you.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Cliff folk. But you don't act like this when you go off the beaten path. You got to tighten it up. When you get to your location, then you can loosen up and have fun and play pranks. Until you get there, A, your fucking car
Starting point is 00:36:53 is, you might get fucking Jack Nicholson did easy ride. Oh, sure. Totally get pulled over for any reason. Any reason whatsoever. Then it's nothing but trouble. Exactly. But the fuck up, guys. It's a great point because you, where are you going to get killed? Here on the city street where there's thousands of people that could see it. That's the whole, the whole crime narrative doesn't make sense. If anything, you're going to be murdered in the suburbs or the country. Sure. Yeah. Because by a pumpkin head. There's a ton of places to hide. Lots of vegetable heads. A bunch of different vegetable heads that could get you. And I don't want to hear that it's a not. Texas chains on mask or unless this guy gets in the car and stops
Starting point is 00:37:31 starts talking about like how you how we sold groceries the old way was the better way now they use the air gun to sell grocery we used to have the pad and the pencil and we just used to do all the addition on the thing you and your credit card swipers man you don't know what it's like
Starting point is 00:37:47 you can just tap now you just tap the thing self check out I gotta say though the other side of this Steve is like From this guy telling his fucking gross foot stew story and all that shit. Like, dude, are you trying to not get laid tonight? Great point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Keep begging her on. Keep pissing her off. Keep freaking her out. That's going to be great for you getting blown later. He's with the religious lady. This might not be going well for him anyway. That shit might have sailed already. It's a real wasted time, wait till marriage kind of relationship.
Starting point is 00:38:23 He's maybe lucky if they're masturbating next to each other. Yeah. watching you watch each other mutual masto yeah well they're true crime fans guys that's what they do it's it i mean i would be the first one to be like what your brother's coming wait he's driving exactly what no you put him in this truck and then i'll take my car i'll take my accurate i will drive drinking beer driving and having a loaded rifle in the car sure oh yeah because what is the line like they're in this car and it's the the the beer can does get cracked and then she's like, hey, babe, why do you have this huge gun back here?
Starting point is 00:39:00 And he's got some line about like, you never know when you're going to need to defend your or some fucking dark shit stupid coward piece of shit lines. I just saw Texas chainsaw a masker. Ain't going to happen to me. All right? I tell you that much. But then button up when you go to the, especially when you go to the stop off. You're probably going to find out a couple things that can happen.
Starting point is 00:39:24 A, you're going to kill a kid. Then you're going to get pumpkin headed. Or someone's going to be like, oh, that, you're not going up to the old McGarry place. That place been haunted for 25 years. Yeah, exactly. And then when they pull away, one hillbilly says the other one, like, gosh, he certainly was disrespectful, wasn't he? Exactly. And then you know those kids are fucked.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I love, they pull up to this grocery store. It's like, we got to get some provisions. The cabin's just a few more miles down the road. And this guy, Joel, probably, you know, a combo of like the booze and he's a douchebag. cannot wait till they get to the cabin to start dirt biking. He's like, no, babe, you got to get dirt bikes off the trailer right now. I got a room, room. We got to do it. And like the
Starting point is 00:40:04 brother's like, hey man, we're almost there. No, no, no, no, no. We're dirt biking right here. Just to defend Todd Gack a little bit. For reasons that elude me, Harley and Sons Grocer is around the most motorbikable area. There are so many hills and little valleys that you can jump off of and do your shit.
Starting point is 00:40:25 on like we're not supposed to motorbike what are those ramps for all right listen back in the day there used to be a motocross couture that came through town but then they built the highway and all of a sudden nobody was dirt biking in front of the store anymore we should
Starting point is 00:40:41 say that Joel gets out of his car immediately and like I think one of the girls maybe it's a baggie's like oh cute kids they see the little kid Billy Billy is the name right I believe so and Joel to a fucking seven year old boy I'm like, fuck, kids got Coke bottle glasses.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I'm like, all right, I guess once a bully, dot, dot, dot. And it's kind of amazing because literally everyone else in this friend group turns and it's just like, dude, what is your problem? Exactly. Why the fuck did I just, why am I spending my weekend with Joel? Why on earth did I let this happen to me? This is a brilliant pit stop because great, a great area to dirt bike in. Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Also, something for the ladies, a little poverty porn, a little poverty tourism bit there. One of the girls is taking pictures of these hillbilly children, one of which, apparently, is the lady from old Sheldon, the television program. Maim Bialik, Blossom herself. Oh, really? Jeopardy's own. That's sort of kind of. I've never seen anything she's been in, but yes. She didn't watch Blossom?
Starting point is 00:41:44 No. She's one of the Cletus clan? She's one of the girls. Yeah, yeah. Come on, Jody, Blossom, Hubert, six. Oh, six, hell yeah. Absolutely. She was the loose friend.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I don't know if she was loose. I think of the later season. I hope it started when they were 12. There was a loose person on Blossom. I don't like six was like Blossom's like hip fun friend. Really? No, is this where George got seven? Seven.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I could picture because Blossom does exist in the world of Seinfeld. George Costanza watching an episode of Blossom boy. What was her last name? Nine. Oh, 7-8-9. That's how that worked. Ooh, I guess someone was hungry. So while they're getting their provisions and whatever, yes, George Buckflower himself,
Starting point is 00:42:35 I think one of the only roles where he's not playing a homeless drunk. True, but again, the requisite George Buckflower requirement, he doesn't have indoor plumbing. Whether he doesn't have a home or whether it's... You can have a home, but there's no pipes in there. Unless he's with the aliens, but also they also do. don't have pipes, right? But that guy was like homeless at the beginning of the movie.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. He's like the mayor or something. But I imagine that aliens don't have plumbing either because they can just use some type of magical technology to just transport your poo away. I mean, you're probably right, but I think you probably are closer to the bag. Like the bag theory you had. The bag theory. I think that's the buckflower household is using the feedback after they pour it out. Oh my God. I didn't. A neighbor of mine used to shit in a bag and throw it out in the garbage. Her plumbing was fucked over.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Where was this? Literally next door to me. My condo complex. Wow. Yeah, but then one winter she fell and broke her hip and you started smelling something if she just wasn't her bag of shit. She probably went to assisted living,
Starting point is 00:43:45 which if she was shitting in a bag, she probably should have gone to years earlier. That's where she went and then she expired, I assume, a pillow over the head. well you know I assume it's kind of funny that like that lady shit in bags
Starting point is 00:43:59 and throwing them out with the trash for pickup and everything the boomers in your fucking HOA didn't give her shit but you like went outside one time to like
Starting point is 00:44:08 get the mail and quietly sneezed and you're getting like letters in the mail the next day you want to keep it down out there yeah I was accused of trespassing outside my front door
Starting point is 00:44:17 anyway anyway I'm moving so it's okay we're happy we're happy We keep saying provisions. These teens stop off. They're having a fun, flirty weekend. What the fuck are they going to get at Harley's grocery?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Well, they're trying for beer. They're trying for beer. That doesn't happen. No liquor. The Frito Lay Corporation hadn't come up this way in a long time. No, no. You're not getting any corn chips, any Doritas, anything. Frito pie, what's that? NASA talk. Oh, the Frito folk haven't been here since six to seven.
Starting point is 00:44:51 what's your say a prong a pringle what is that we got plenty of dust and dirt would you like some of that young fella Frito lay driver Sipsay he's coming out here takes so long to get it he's just used a bathroom we don't have no toilet so he stopped making delivery are we got a can of green beans if you'd like it like that's what we're talking that's what we're dealing with here when you're watching this kid help Lance like set up the shop or whatever he's like yeah were hosing down all these vegetables. It's like, get, get the, get the potatoes. They're literally, I think, hosing the dust off of this produce.
Starting point is 00:45:30 To make their, to make their vegetable hag and I'm sorry, Lance Hendrickson, you run this fucking dirt bag, you know, grocery store on the side of the road. You got to have at least one freezer with some six packs. You just do. I don't care if you're drying out or whatever. You can't be a roadside stand like this, like a general. store and not have some banquet beer floating around. No, we don't got no beer, but we do got hot, piping hot soda. Would you like some? I mean, this is one of those moments where
Starting point is 00:45:59 sold in three liter increments. Mr. Pepper. Yeah, it's not the doctor quite yet. He hasn't gotten there quite yet. We're not fancy enough to have doctors. Not even pepper doctors. This is one of those moments though where I genuinely thought about like technology shifted because like you really did have to like the moment. If you were going on a trip like this, the moment you saw a grocery store that was like an actual one, you had to, don't matter how far you are from the fucking place.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Stop there because otherwise you are going to get a Harley and Sun situation. You never know. Where you're going to eat dust apples and like fuck flowers of bags of dust bits to eat. We don't watch an ori. What do you call an Oreo? What is that? What's that doing? You're telling me
Starting point is 00:46:46 it's two cookies with cream sandwiched Between them? That's the work of the devil. Why would it be Chips O'Hoy? Is there a pirate involved? I know you like, you kids like to come out here at a country. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Have fun at my expense. Try to tell me thing. Tell me fake cookies that don't exist. When I say, oh, that sounds good. You laugh at me. You laugh at me when you're driving off. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Oh, that guy believed what a Twix is. What the fuck's a Twix. Yeah, yeah. You're telling me this Sarah Lee lady makes all those different kinds of cakes. I'll be telling you. much. I'm not a fan of puffs, cocoa, or otherwise. Well, oh, yeah. So snacks. What do we have? Well, Mrs. McGarry comes every three weeks and leaves four pies. Those go pretty quickly. That's kind of it for snacks. I take two of those.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah. My son and I eat most of the pies, she drops off, you see. That's a snack. It's got in. This is actually just kind of our refrigerator. People come in and buy some, because we have extra, but mostly we just eat what's in the store you could actually get some go to the go down to the creek get some cold some dried dirt put some cold water on and have a mud
Starting point is 00:47:59 you can you can drink mud mud mud is kind of ice cream around these parts no it's uh I know it's a little confusion this mud slide is just mud there's no alcohol and it's just not a lick of collua to be found extra wormy today this is good mud
Starting point is 00:48:16 oh wow holy fuck I didn't even know We still have a Fifth Avenue bar here, though. There you go. We do have Fifth Avenue bars here. It's fossilized. I wouldn't eat it, but if you buy it, it might be fun to look at it. You could use it out as weapon at this point if you knocked somebody over the head with it. It's like a blackjack right there.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So while they're like in there being told there's no beer for sale, Joel is just dirt biking to the extreme. Oh, yeah. Right away. Buckflower pulls up with the kids. And the kids are out teasing the littlest. boy singing the poem that Steve read us in this like
Starting point is 00:48:53 Pumpkin Hey yeah and there's re-rhym sing song crap yeah and the kids getting freaked out but it's kind of great because Lance is like peering out the window
Starting point is 00:49:03 yeah like he does probably 18 hours out of the day at the store and hears them and is triggered the memory is triggered of this dude just getting chokeslam by pumpkin head
Starting point is 00:49:15 and he's like oh that was a fun childhood that night pumpkinhead came to visit that was great i remember living in hell when i was a kid he's so warm all the time given though it was winter outside uh what's her face i think is it the one that winds up uh certain the final girl is getting freaked out by the kids and what one the lead kid bunt uh who was in silent night deadly night four or five it's five it's the one with micky rooney the toy maker or whatever he's in that he plays pino he's the he's the a dweeb in society.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yes. Is that the one that's directed by Monty Hellman? What? Silent Night, Deadly Night Four, I think, is directed by Monty Helman. No, I think it's a, it might be a Usenah situation. Oh, okay. Oh, it could be a Yuzna movie. Okay. I think Steve's on the case here.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah, so the girl's getting freaked out because the little boy's getting visibly upset. And finally, she just kind of snaps and is like, stop, can't you see you're freaking him out? And then like the other guy, Chris, is like, baby just let him fuck with this kid because we don't want to mess with these hill folk
Starting point is 00:50:22 apparently Yuzna had directed the fourth Silent Night Deadly Night Initiation but he did write Toymaker the Toymaker It is a fucking crazy movie It's a wild film FYI those movies get really weird
Starting point is 00:50:38 really quickly It's kind of like Hellraiser shit Where it's just like Why don't just slap Silent Night Deadly Night Exactly So do you think this kid Bunt Bunt. Named after baseball or cake. What do we think?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Great question. Yeah. Cake. Cake. Yeah. Baseball ain't been out this way in 40 years. We named him after the cake we had at the wedding. That was the only cake in the county for the last 25 years. We sold half of it at the general store. No, we're still firmly a mud ball county. We throw mud at each other and we try to hit it. We named him Bunt after the sweetest snack we know. Holy snack, we know. But cake. Yeah, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:51:22 but he's like kind of flirting with this girl. You can tell he's attracted to her. Yeah, it's a little like, all right. Yeah. We'll stop fucking with him. Whatever you say, baby. He's like 16 probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I don't know how old he is. He's probably playing 16. Bunt, I would argue, is the one from this litter. Yes. Uh, of pups here that would like possibly break out of the town. You know what I mean? He goes on his rum springer.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And never comes back. I'm not saying like college education, but he just never comes back. Yeah, he goes to bring him young. He's the one who gets out. Oh, God. You know what? Put him right back in. How about that?
Starting point is 00:51:57 He might as well not go to college. But Buckflower is like, we're a feed and Hendon's like, oh, you know, having such an idyllic morning with my son. I plumb forgot to bring your feed. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:52:11 he's like, give me 15. And Buckflower. Like he's got so much shit to do today I meant to be back now I'm like, do we what? Pet in my pigs Exactly what? I gotta dig a new poophole
Starting point is 00:52:28 because the current poophole Overflowing And I'm out of bass Cause somebody forgot the feed But you're right though He's like I'll be I just It'll take me 15 minutes To drive back to the house
Starting point is 00:52:42 And then I'll come And it's like you're right Like just wait I don't know go out and crank the engine of your car to start it up or whatever you got to do. I mean, like, he's his only customer. You can't count on these city folks. So he's like, oh, I'll bring it by your house tonight.
Starting point is 00:52:55 He's like, be before doc and holly and kind of walk. So I was like, all right, dude. Like, you fucking chickens aren't going to starve unless you are feeding your children chicken feed. Yeah. That's why we call it feed because we eat it. We add milk to it to make it tasty. It's what you call cereal. Oh, yeah, Nabisco don't come out this way, sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:53:19 We eat chicken feed in the mornings. No, Captain Crunch better watch his feet. He'd come up to my front door. Captain Crunch, stolen valor. He never went in the Navy. The last Captain Crunch came through these parts were fighting in the Civil War. We had some woman bring over some Dracula cereal one time.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Oh, we burned her for being a witch. He had Dracula cereals. couldn't even believe it. The next Hallows Eve, all the lady driving up, she's got a mummy cereal. She pulled up to the drive. I had the shotgun ready. I said, take your mummy cereal
Starting point is 00:53:57 and get out of here. You won't ruin this all Hallows Eve. And then she brought me, I thought this was a good thing. She brings me a nice cereal with a bunny, the bunny of Christ, like I thought. And it turns out he's a demonic bunny. It turns out he's a tricky bunny.
Starting point is 00:54:13 tricks are for kids no sir that tricks is for the devil so Lance Hendrickson very importantly drives off while this kid is just you got to be like hey you're Lance Hendrickson you see what's going on you're a scary dude
Starting point is 00:54:31 you have your little kid you're like hey you're smart enough to be like stay inside Billy keep the dog by the way we should say a huge star is in this film oh absolutely Lance Hendrickson Lance Hendrickson is the biggest star. The second biggest star is number two. No. Mushroom the dog
Starting point is 00:54:47 play the gypsy from Gremlins. That's true. Yes. Huge roles. Great dog actor. Not crazy about the name in this film. Yeah. Gypsy. Yeah, that's what it is. Not great. But you stay inside with Gypsy. But you, when you see these assholes
Starting point is 00:55:05 fucking around your backyard, you're like, hey, beat it. And they'll fucking scatter. They'll absolutely do it. Shoot your guns in the air. You know you want to. Here's the other thing. It is wishful thinking, Lance Hendrickson. If you think you got to leave this kid at the store
Starting point is 00:55:23 case another customer comes by and you're going to miss a sale, uh, uh, uh, no one is swinging by for the rest of the day. You know it. The dog knows it. The kid knows it. Close the store. Put the kid in the car and don't leave this child to man your general store. There's a chance Anton Sugar might be.
Starting point is 00:55:42 call it Billy call it he's going to call it the second man oh yeah call the time of death dude that's what we're calling this pumpkin has been traveling all around and now it's here what do you mean you married
Starting point is 00:55:58 into it don't put that pumpkin head in your pocket he's a super demonic spirit of edges that roused out of a pumpkin patch but so what So he goes off to get Buckflower's beloved chicken feed Probably at the getting place, actually speaking of it. That's exactly we've got to go to get it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 No Country for Old Men, previous episode on Patreon. It's very true. Where you can also find ad-free episodes of this season's offerings. But yeah, so he leaves the kids. We're dirt biking. Yes. And dirt biking to the max, I would argue. And they're going really hot wild.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And this little dog runs out because he's really rattled by the motorbiking. And thank God I had seen this movie before. It's like you think this dog's going to eat shit. Oh, of course. I would love both of them. You know, it's like two little, you know, ramps that you can go over. You go over the dog. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Then you go over the kid. Oh, that's a speed bump kind of ass. But da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Hey, haggis, they killed my kid and my dog. Oh, good. And Holly, now you've got pumpkin head and ruffles. dog of pumpkin head. It's just like a little, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:57:14 now I'm picturing like a boo-boo bear kind of animal. It's a dog walking on high, I guess Brian from family guy. It's a dog on its hind legs and it's evil. But Steve is such a fucking whim because Joel is like, because he's like, come on man,
Starting point is 00:57:27 we're just right up the road. Why don't we just wait? And he's like, no, we're dirt biking now. Steve's like, well, I guess I too shelter it bike. Yep, no, no, no, no. Let this dude ride off. Yes. Crash break his name.
Starting point is 00:57:38 because he's also wasted so like let him go do whatever leave your dirt bike mounted on the trailer. Well I should listen to you almost killed somebody I guess that just kind of equals out. Then he does kill somebody so the kid runs out
Starting point is 00:57:54 after the dog and this is I got to tell you some of the laziest shit it's the Jesus freak lady sees the kid run out after the dog and she does a really half-ass like no little kid don't do that And I'm like, it's a little child.
Starting point is 00:58:11 You're an adult with way longer legs. Just go run and grab them. Snatch that kid. Yeah, yeah. But, well, to be fair, she doesn't sound like Lance Henriksen, so the boy might not recognize the tone. I mean, this is something, you know, you have a thing about this. You see any unsupervised child, you grab them.
Starting point is 00:58:27 You don't know what's going on. Whether you're in a grocery store, that's right. The movie theater. That's right. You just grab them. It doesn't matter if they're crying and saying their mom's right over there. You have to protect that child. Make sure that the.
Starting point is 00:58:38 motorbike isn't going to get them. If you see a child holding hands with a grown woman, I don't know who that woman is. I'm going to snatch that kid. I don't know. It's a pedophile. They probably are 99% of people are pedophiles. That's actually true.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And 99% of children are in an underground network being traded off like fucking trading cards. There's a little chalk mark up on his shoulder. That's definitely, that's a kid that was taken right there. That couldn't just be from school and something happened. No, no, no, no. They're shifting those kids around like, Sandberg rookie cards.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I gotta say, in a way I admire those people in the following sense. Brain damaged? No. I'm doing that to myself just fine. No, but like to have so little going on. Yeah. It's true. Like just
Starting point is 00:59:26 it's true. An open day just free blank a shit calendar to follow people around the grocery store accusing them of kidnapping their own children to have that empty. of a schedule. That nothing of responsibility at all.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Oh, blissful. Blissful. Oh, yeah. You know, if you can't solve a problem, create one. That's exactly right. Be the problem you want to see in the world. Thank you. Yes. And then you'll prove your point that there are people trying to abduct children. But this kid gets clobbered. It's not
Starting point is 00:59:59 good. It's not. Okay, yes, the body doesn't explode. Did you want a dummy, dude? You want a blood spray? I want a dummy too. No blood for the kid But just like I want to see this thing Get like knocked back a little bit
Starting point is 01:00:13 You want to see like a close up shot of the dummy The second wheel hits it He realized what's happening He starts to break right on the body That's what you want No no What if? So the dirt bike kind of you know
Starting point is 01:00:26 Because he does sort of just like Brush the kid or whatever he falls down What if they left that all in But then Stan Winston was like We got to appease Steve Seda We gotta make sure this kid really gets it They add in a sound effect. It's just squaw.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah. You would have been nice. It's like you do a quick shot of those glasses going to fly in the air. Oh, that's what it is. That'd be Zach Snyder's pumpkin. Slow motion glasses flying through the air for four minutes. A little lightning bolt in the background just for show.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It's a storm of ruin. People, they ain't no good. The game's going while it happens. So this kid's pretty much dead. He's real dang. up here. He does get a final word in a few minutes but in classic drunk coward fashion this dude's
Starting point is 01:01:13 like this dude Joel's like oh fuck and he starts wheeling this fucking motorcycle back to the trailer. This is a crazy freak out because then the girlfriend is like what do you do and we can't just let he fucking throws this girl to the girl like get the fucking car and like basically Steve
Starting point is 01:01:30 who also by the way almost hit the kid he's like it was an accident I almost hit the kid he came out of nowhere you know like and I almost finished the job And whatever, but they're all staying with the kid. But then like the other three are like, we'll go go find help. We'll go, we'll find a phone. You know, we'll go to the cabin and use the phone to get the cops down here.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Joel says to this girlfriend, he goes, I've been drinking. They'll fry me. Look, to do. I actually agree with Joel. I kind of do too, yeah. But here's the thing. You cannot be going to your friend's little hideaway. you have to get into the car and go far, far away.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Not home. Go any, like, you are going, they're going to find you. Like, eventually they will. Steve does have that line about like, let's just go to Mexico at some point. Or the other idea is, I'll just take the rap. How bad could prison be? Dude, that is one point later in this movie where like, you know, the chips are down. And he's like, all right, how about this is a solution? I've never had a charge brought against me.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'll say I kill the kid. What the fuck are you talking about? I love my brother like a brother. But man, if this happened, I'd be like, you know, oh, man, I'll write you every week. I will write you one letter every week out of this one, dude. Because, like, what is in it for you? I guess you, the character. It's not, because it's not, like, points on your license.
Starting point is 01:02:56 This is murder. You know what I mean? Baby murder. But I think maybe his idea is like, well, you could maybe, like, get it down to a manslaughter charge. Sure. It was an accident, and the character Steve was not drinking. Yeah. So I think maybe that's the logic.
Starting point is 01:03:10 But even still, I'm not going to roll that dice. It's very big dice to be right. No, no. If anything, you know, you let your brother take the rap. You know, you let Todd Gack go to prison jail. And if you're really torn up about it, you put a file in a pie, right? Oh, yes. Right?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Classic. Yeah. So they could just chisel his way, chisel one bar out. And then boom, he suddenly. I look the logic there, right? But also, you got to look around. This is a, I don't even think this is going to trial. This is Hill law.
Starting point is 01:03:40 They'll hang you by dawn, dude. It's country justice, man. They're going to take you to the witch. You're going to be before the board of Haggis. You're not even getting a rock hammer and a Rita Hayworth poster. That's not happening. You're not getting that far. No, not country justice might be better.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Sure. Then you're quicker. Big city justice where you're in that, you know, you're in the big house because you're in the big city and it's all, you know, all these people. wouldn't you rather just get your skull bashed in the country side you get to see a good view 30 years yeah just fucking crush my skull dude
Starting point is 01:04:11 yeah fuck that 30 years shit 30 years of that no thanks yes hang me in the town square yeah I would also take the bash in the back of that either one rich as long as it was a good one I need a good hand you clip that for me to hang me in the towns I just want to use it oh sure
Starting point is 01:04:27 get that on the old sound board oh yeah then you eat a bunch of Taco Bell is your last man Oh, yeah, dude. Start working to the party. But let Hendrickson comes back. Steve is really holding the bag
Starting point is 01:04:42 here. Yeah. Because it's like, hi. Is this yours? I had just found him this way. He's just crumpled up in the in the field. The fucking worst part.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's so bad. And like, I don't know if he's thinking like this will make it better. What he's like, here's his glasses. Like, oh, he ain't going to be. them no more. He's got no eyes left. Yeah. And he just Hedrickson's like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:05:10 He grabs them and he starts walking away. He's like, can I help? And he gives him the look. Yep. Who? Lance Hedroxen did give me this look. I would turn to stone. I'd hang myself in the town square. I'm not going to wait for these hillbillies to dish out that justice. Steve character says as much.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I told him it was an accident and he looked at me like he wanted to kill me. Of course he did. He killed his son. but so he takes the kid back. I mean, also, you know, we should wait for an ambulance. He is just jostling this. I mean, like, I think it's... Where is an ambulance?
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah, that's true. They don't exist out there. That's the thing. Like, some parts of the country, man, when you're, like, way remote and whatnot, like, you fucking get a really bad paper cut. Just start digging your own grave. Like, if you can't stop bleeding or something,
Starting point is 01:05:56 you're totally screwed. I mean, I don't even know if that this is that area, but they certainly want you to believe, it's back in the area. Right. So his only recourse is to go to this shit farm where they farm shit and be like, I'm looking for your, your, your, your papa. Yeah. Looking for buck flower. I need to rub my child on your magic pig to get him to live again. He brings him home. He washes him and like, in a touching scene, Billy goes, Daddy. And he's like, yes boy. And he's dead. Yep. He dies. Meanwhile, we are at the cabin. This cabin, by the way, do you recognize?
Starting point is 01:06:32 this? I didn't, but I heard the trivia. What perfect timing. This is the cabin from Friday the 13th, Part 4. Really? This is where the Fel-Dogs family. Oh, very nice. Yeah, yeah, which we're doing a digital worldwide experience on... That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:48 October 26. Yeah, 9 p.m. Eastern, available worldwide. Moment.com. Slash we hate movies for tickets. Um, so we're at this cabin. And this dude, Joel, again, just digging this whole deeper for himself at this point. He's ripping the phone out of the wall
Starting point is 01:07:07 and like, you're not going to be calling anybody. And these people are like, dude, what are you doing? Well, I was glad because Jeff East here, you know, if you're famous for playing Clark Kent before he becomes Superman, you're playing nerds. You know what I mean? And like earlier on when I think the kids are taunting the other kid for Pumpkin Head, the girl steps in and she's like, stop it. And then he goes up to her. He's like, yeah, I was just about to do that. But then like, Joel hits his girlfriend. I'm like, come on. Come on, dude. What are we doing here? Yeah. He does step up and punch him in the face. I was just about to do that. Hit your girlfriend. Good job. Just to help you because I'm so worried about you. You know it's out of character too.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Because even Joel is like, whoa, wait. Chris, did you just punch me in the face? Yes. That's incredible. But whoops, he's got a shotgun. And that's kind of the end of the game. You know what we don't see? And, like, I feel like it's such a bizarre move. You need to see it go down and not just the aftermath. He locks these two people in a closet, which is great. At gunpoint. And, like, you only learn that, like, it cuts back.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And they're just in this closet. And they're like, when we get out of here, that Joel is so dead. I was like, no, no, no, no. I need to see him, like, ushering these people in a gun point. Because here's the thing is, like, I mean, like, I don't know. Who among your friends who, if they pulled a gun on you, would you believe would use it. Anyone in this room, I would be like, fuck off. And I'd be like
Starting point is 01:08:34 do it, dude. You'd do it tough guy. There's a couple folks I know that I'm like, oh, that dude would pull the trigger. Oh, yeah, people not in this room that I do know. They pull a gun like, all right, what do you want? What needs to happen? All right, I'm going to have to stiffen up my demeanor. Yes. You want people to believe you. I want people to know that I mean business.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Sure. Yes. I'm very worried about you in shotguns. Yeah. I mean, Gack, the problem here is like, you If you weren't going to get hung by the town court anyway, you are doing all the things to ensure you are going to die in a terrible way. Like at this point, I would be, if I was him, I'd be looking for pumpkinhead.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Like, take me out. Whatever is coming for me is not going to be good. This is not ending well for me. You will die. You're terrible, terrible death. What are you going to do? Throw me around and slash me with one of your fingernails. Like, okay, kill me.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Um, yes, but he goes to Buckflower and he's like, you know, I need, I need help, but I need to know where the witch is. And he's like, that lady can't bring your boy back. All she could do is send you to hell. You go on home now. You bury your boy. Yeah. good advice probably next year outhouse whatever you got going on there we just use holes in I mean chances are look around you I mean that kid wasn't going to make it to 20 I mean like that kid gets dip we still got dip theory out here a few good lines in this seat is is Lance Hendrickson I'm looking for the old woman with powers yes and then the buckflowers like asked what killed them city folks yeah city folks that was the key to it all for buck flower. And you, I love that buck flower is like, palettes and it comes up. He's like, I need to know with the old lady with powers. He's like, what are you mean about a holler witch? Why would you think
Starting point is 01:10:24 I buckflower looking the way I do with my magic pigs would ever know about a holler witch? And it turns out he knows quite a lot about the holler witch. So does Bunt. And Bunt is who it's also funny Buckflower being like, here's that $10, I owe you, like over the feed. Yeah, yes. Because at first he doesn't want to take it because he's like, hey, listen, let me give me that Hollerwitch. Exactly. We'll call it even.
Starting point is 01:10:51 You're going to have a funeral to pay for. You'd give, take back your $10. That'd be great at the general store. It's like feed for $10 or Hollerwitch, Hollerwich information. Who asked about our Hollerwitch? I haven't seen the Hollerwich. Last time I saw, she was at the get in place. buying caldrons.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Well, I live at the getting place now. She's not there. But, yes, the disgusting shit boy is like, I'll tell you where that Hallowich is for them $10. Uh-huh. And it's like, I know where she is,
Starting point is 01:11:23 but I don't want to go there. Just get in, boy, you're going to show me where it is. And he's like, all right, you drive me halfway. That old lady scares the shit out of me.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I always love this stuff in like horror movies, whatever. It's like, this is as far as I go. Oh, yeah. As far back as Dracula, dude. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:39 It's starting to get really foggy out here. I got to walk back. We should say, I think that again, Stan Winston, the atmosphere here is great. It is. It builds real atmosphere to Chris Cabin's point. Real light hitting things. It's a lot of outside.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I'm sure there's a lot of sound stages too, but like there is a lot of outside stuff that feels like it's outside. And when we're driving up to the Black Ridge where Haggis, the Witch, lives, it does look foreboding. You got this sense of dread a little bit here. The outside shooting filming technique
Starting point is 01:12:09 I will never fault ever is when you want to make a forest look creepy you have your shot set up and way far back you just have a massive floodlight just beaming down it doesn't matter if it's supposed to be the moon or not
Starting point is 01:12:24 that shit cutting through trees and everything always looks cool and this movie has that up and down it's really awesome it's really fun to look at I very much enjoyed the new season of Justified they put out but I need railing Gibbons versus
Starting point is 01:12:39 Hollerwitch. Take a supernatural turn. Raylan Givens is supernatural because he can keep this job for so long. I don't know how he hasn't been fired yet. He's a middle-aged white guy. Sure, there you go. Well, that's close to which is power.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Chris, but most of those shootings were justified, weren't they? You should say that, Stevens. By the way, I'm glad you liked that. Hell, yeah, in that city primeval. It fucking rocked. A few episodes left haven't finished yet. It's fun as hell. Also, great design on this, like, the Holler Witch hideout here.
Starting point is 01:13:13 This is straight out of a Jim Henson nightmare, this fucking thing. It's so well done. Like, you take one look at it. You know it's disgusting. You can smell it through your television. Like really well made crap factory. Then when the Holler Witch has a goblet next to tarantulas. There's an owl in your house.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Yeah. Well, she went to, that's just lets you know she went to Hogwarts. Oh, that's true. Hogwarts Pride and Holly Who's in your house? I studied at American Hogwarts Lance Henriksen you were there too Yeah that's right
Starting point is 01:13:48 I went to American Hogwarts What bathroom you use That's something I care deeply about Yeah American Hogwarts also has Jeff Dunham Those puppets come to life That's true that's true Oh you want you want What was the pepper one called?
Starting point is 01:14:05 I don't know I actually don't say it said you are something something that I don't want to repeat Yeah yeah yeah Oh he comes to laugh Do the right spell Oh yeah you do right smile
Starting point is 01:14:15 He's teaching classes At American Hogwarts He's awfully spicy But you know She's like oh hello Ed Harley She knows that he's there And she knows
Starting point is 01:14:26 What he wants to Before he says anything Before she sees him She's just like He ain't gonna be able to help you didn't the crazy fat fucker down to the bottom of the hill tell you that already men only want one thing and it's disgusting it's pumpkin heads digging a pumpkin patch he gives her a bunch of silver dollars that he has weird uh detail about those silver dollars so this was like we said three million dollar budget Lance Henrickson bringing all his clothes from home but also like he traveled around to like thrift stores or whatever finding these silver dollars like stand him on it. I run on page 58 about those silver dollars. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I got a great silver dollar guy. But it's a weird, like, the way that it's written in the trivia, and I guess this is just because it's the IMDB and it's awful. But like, it makes you, if you haven't seen the movie, it makes you think like, wow, these silver dollars must be awfully important to the story for him to do that. Literally one shot of these silver dollars getting put in a cup. Whoopty do.
Starting point is 01:15:29 You think they'd come back in some way silver being against werewolves or whatever. It shows that like Henriksen was really good. game for this movie, which is clear because he's really I mean, A, like how often is it Lance Henrick's it above the title? Is it, you know what I mean? Does he get to be a sense of dad? Man's best friend. Millennium. That's probably it. That hellraiser
Starting point is 01:15:49 movie, maybe. Oh, no. I think Doug Bradley's probably still getting the top slot in the air. Although, speaking of which though, holy shit. So there are at least, to my knowledge, for pumpkin head movies. Okay, yes. Two of them are television movies. Right. And so, the three and four have Lance Hendrickson
Starting point is 01:16:09 as the ghost of it. Holy shit. Yeah, I was like, do I watch these? Kane Hodder is in the second I watched this morning, which is amazing. Oh, is it? I was considering watching it. They completely changed the origin store. They literally turned pumpkinhead into Jason.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Okay. He was killed by a bunch of like greaser boys. What? He was like a mask child. and mask like that share the share movie like he's deformed I guess so that's why a skeleton's weird is what we're saying and there well like all the greasers are like go back to hell you monster
Starting point is 01:16:44 and then it turns out that he turns into pumpkin head you see what rock and roll music does here's the one question I have for about the second movie the second movie is called Pumpkinhead colon blood wings does he have wings is he flying no fuck off I think he's trying to get
Starting point is 01:17:00 the idea is he's going to get wings if he gets he has to kill all the greasers essentially who are all older people I gotta get your blood rings Kairn. Every time a bell rings and pumpkin head got his wings Red Bull gives you blood wings.
Starting point is 01:17:16 It is essentially that like he thinks it's going to happen. I forgot why I brought up those sequels. There was something in there. There was the second one there was the third and the fourth one. And Doug Bradley is in one of them. That's that's thank you. I think of the third one Doug Bradley's farting around in there in some way.
Starting point is 01:17:32 to Lance Sandringson despises those two movies. He called them alimony gigs. Oh, God. That kind of shit. There's alimony gigs. There's a story. I don't know. It was Wikipedia, Imb, whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:44 There's a screening of this third movie. You better believe they probably rented the fucking theater for this. It wasn't an invitation to screen this movie. The same theater they did American movie. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, Uncle Bill, man. There's another movie. I want to put the theater.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Fucking Pumpkin at three. But so the director comes up and they're like going to do a Q&A and he's like, and let's bring out the guy who started it all, Lance Hendrick's in. And he left. Oh, no. He's fucking left. I love that. A lot of bar of breads better go across the street.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And then he goes and visits his kids like, yeah, here's, yeah, this will get you through. It's pumpkinhead two. I mean, pumpkin head three. He's not even in the second one. The main star is the Scorpio Killer from Dirty Harris. Andrew Robinson. Andrew Robinson from Star Trek
Starting point is 01:18:34 Deep Space Nine and from Hellraiser as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh shit, that's right. Yeah. It's all in the family. So he goes...
Starting point is 01:18:41 Speaking of these hillbilly kids. She says to him. Yeah, they're probably in breath. She's like, I can't bring your boy back in Hollywood. And he's like, okay. But I've heard you aid in vengeance and set things right. She's like, I can, but at a terrible price.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And he just, he's game immediately. In all of these, like, when you're dealing, with the witch when you're dealing with the devil and if they're like, oh, it'll cost you big. I'm like, all right, tell me what it is. What is that price? And maybe they'll, maybe they'll be elliptical even more, but at least I ask
Starting point is 01:19:14 the question. You know what I mean? Like, no, you did your past. Barking with these people. Yeah, yeah. You're probably, you're probably going to hell. I think that's the big sell. Yeah, well, yeah, for sure. There is a hell. Your soul is damned. But tell me that old witch. It was fucking damned anyway, right? Like, now you know, for sure
Starting point is 01:19:30 like, now like, now like, they're like, look, there is a hell, you're going there, and eternity is actually eternity. So you can get vengeance and go to hell, or you can just go to hell. That's your choice. Yeah, actually, I mean. Oh, Ed Harley, I don't specialize in bringing people back from the dead. We'd be sued to Kingdom Club if I could do that. Just a little too close to the pit cemetery.
Starting point is 01:19:55 But she's like, all right, Ed Harley, you got to go to Razor back holler where they're buried people where buried kin they was ashamed of and he's like another time you want to ask a follow-up question because he's she's like you go you get a shovel and you dig it up and he's like dig what up
Starting point is 01:20:15 you'll know when you see no I won't lady I will not that would be funny a scene just like every grave is open and he's what the fuck or he keeps going back with the wrong skeleton he's like that's still not in it no that's uncle jesse who was caught making with the pigs they had to bury him alive all right all right just raise the pig fucker i guess and have him do the vengeance lady at some point
Starting point is 01:20:43 you got to tell me where i need to dig it's been all fucking when you see i've been it's i've been up and down this hill all fucking night clean the shit out your eyes and holly but it's like next to the graveyard it's sort of like this little tower It's like a big tree stump. If that situation happened, I would just imagine the witch trudging over there. The big fucking thing. What did you think? Here it is, you jackass.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Guess I had to spell that for you in Harley. What else is remarkable about this play? But to be fair, when he gets there, there's an open, honest, you're going to skill to just hang around. I would bring that back. And I would be like, is this we're talking about this? That's the obvious one. You actually thought it was going to be that. that is that was hanging from a grapevine.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I told you to bring a shovel. Oh, no, Ed Harley, yeah, you were grabbing things that were remarkable. That's a can of monster energy drink that's been hucked from the highway. I can't do much with that, Ed Harley. Then he can just have the kids drink it, drink enough of it. True. They'll kill you eventually. No, that's Hans Cecilia.
Starting point is 01:21:55 She died from eating tinfoil. she just did it every day and eventually poop the pica got her at Holly there is a moment it's a really great
Starting point is 01:22:07 Henriksen moment where he's like starting to dig it up and like he kind of feels around and gets like freaked out like falls off the tree stuff and he takes this moment
Starting point is 01:22:16 where he's like all right all right Ed are you really going to get into this paranormal shit you could just go back barrier but nope no it's the point of no return
Starting point is 01:22:26 all right get back up there Well, are you? Okay, you're going to take a pumpkin too, aren't you? Yeah, just a pumpkin. You can roast it up later for some food. It's in a pumpkin patch. It's on a towery thing. That's what heads to pumpkin head. Yeah. I will say, great decision by everyone involved to not have this be a monster with a little pumpkin for a head. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I would no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it would be fucking stupid. I think this different movie. It would send it a ginger dead man. and Jack Frost kind of
Starting point is 01:22:58 I think I could have balanced this I could have directed it and it would have worked Sure, yeah That's usually the answer How would you make it not fucking stupid? Like the opening of Halloween too You know, eventually you can bash the pumpkin heads head in
Starting point is 01:23:13 And there's a skull in there and then it's a Skellington for the third act. I like it. Boom! I'm kind of into it I mean, it would be a different movie It would be dumb, it'd be dumb But what is this? Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Because he turns it, I mean, he brings it back. And then she's like, I need your blood at Holly. It's a really great, like, he gets his hand cut. And like, I don't know if it's like the spell kicking in or what, but I love woozy Lance Henrickson at this part. Right. Oh, my, what the. Oh, we need a toilet.
Starting point is 01:23:47 What's that? Look where you are in Harley. God, no put no toilet here. Everywhere is a toilet. wallet here and holly the hose outside the bag is in the bag oh yes take your choice use my mouse oh yeah that's the third choice that will also summon pumpkin head i don't often get visitors head uh but she you know she does she takes some blood from the corpse of the child also and she says now go bury your boy you'll know it what it's all coming happening
Starting point is 01:24:25 It's going to happen. Trust me, it'll happen. When you feel like you're about to shit yourself. That's one of the souls of the evil ones going up into the sky. It's cool watching Pumpkin Head kind of come to life. Yeah, totally. Because, like, as he is, he is like this little compacted skeleton. He looks like one of the pilots from Alien.
Starting point is 01:24:47 He looks like a racerhead baby a little bit too. I would think he's an alien if I was one of these kids. Because the way it looks is so crazy And this weird noise it emits You know, it seems It's otherworldly on purpose But it seems UFO To me
Starting point is 01:25:04 From my experience with aliens Well, I think I can say What we're getting at those Had this been a more successful franchise Right You're getting pumpkin head in space Oh no at some point
Starting point is 01:25:15 It turns out He's from a race of pumpkin head people Right like Okay so people are like Get revenge for the challenges Hollow witch my boy was murdered by an astronaut Can we get a pumpkin head On board the space mission
Starting point is 01:25:34 I can help you revenge your boy But it'll cost you zip thorn axe You an alien or something A shock is going to cover something to All your Star Wars friend Pumpkinhead's gonna get all little Star Wars friends. You better watch
Starting point is 01:25:57 how Ewarks, Porkin' Head eats you like potato chips. Isn't one of them just named Ethan? Yeah, he'll get him too. So there is a quick second. There is a Pet Cemetery fake out here. Oh, sure. Yeah. Because he's driving along. And then the kid
Starting point is 01:26:17 just sits up and is like, Daddy, what did you do? And like, thankfully, it's just a dream sequence. I was like, whof, that kid's still dead. Excellent. And Lenz Hendrickson does what I would have done, I don't know, four hours ago, starts hitting the sauce. I mean, like, this is a little too late. The day here after the day you had that. And maybe if he hit the sauce earlier, he wouldn't have went to the witch. You know what I mean? That's pretty true. Yeah. He's sleeping it off somewhere. Coulda should have would, dude. But I was going to start drinking. Not you don't go to the hollow witch. You go to the holler dealer. Where is he? Where is this magical fellow? Also, while he's hitting this sauce, I think is also, when he's talking to his dead wife's tombstone. He's like, they killed our boy, Lily,
Starting point is 01:26:59 or whatever her name is here. And you see like she died like sometime in the 70s, which actually makes me think if this is 88, it was like 78 or something that she died. Possibly it died in childbirth situation.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Because again, love that. Holler folk. Yeah, you're really rolling the dice. It's a real one and two scenario. There's no planned parenthood there. And so obviously like there's no
Starting point is 01:27:21 schoolhouse around whatever. You can assume this kid. There's no school in the year. He's probably not going to school. But like, Lance is burying this boy in the family cemetery with no kind of like procedural. Like you got to, you got to tell somebody that this happened. He probably had no birth certificate, no social security number. Yeah. This is, if ever there was a man who knew that time was going to forget him, Ed Harley knew. Ed Harley was ready for this. And I do, I would get to this fucking grave. And I'm like, well, Cynthia, I took the dust that the holler wizard gave me. I'm feeling right fine right now. I feel the deaths in my heart every time they die. So I guess it's okay that I kind of, I got a kid killed for feed.
Starting point is 01:28:11 It was my mistake. I'm sorry. Lynn, I'm burying our off the book son. Dude, I mean, the census man got ran out of town long, long ways. You just keep right on going. in Mr. Government. See, that's what you got to do. You got to move to the country.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Start having kids, giving birth in your house. You got to move to the country, dude, and eat a lot of peaches. Yeah, of course. Even though they were put there by a man in a factory downtown. Yes. Indeed. But, yes, you've got to do that because then you could kind of raise an army,
Starting point is 01:28:46 an unlisted army. You get like 10 young sons. You bash the girls' heads in, obviously. You get those 10 young sons. you raise them up to know the rifles they're completely unlisted no one can ever trace them to anything no fingerprints this is the story
Starting point is 01:29:00 burn them off this is the plot of under the banner of heaven by the way is it really I've seen it pretty close I've been fixing to do some of that under the bantering all the Andrew Garfield show there's great show it's about the holler folk being bred
Starting point is 01:29:16 Mormon Mormon homer Mormon and in a holler oh yeah shiver up my fucking spying. Good luck detective. So the Maggie there
Starting point is 01:29:30 the Jesus freak is losing her shit and this is really hilarious because she's like losing her shit's kind of maybe extreme because she is kind of like doing the comatose like I saw a scary thing and now I'm just like buttoned up the whole time this dude
Starting point is 01:29:45 running outside with like her she's got a little like crucifix necklace and he's just like you see this you like this right this does something for you right here just look at it feel better look at Jesus and feel better like jingling cats in front of a cat exactly what it is
Starting point is 01:30:04 you love the Lord right you're a stupid piece of shit right it's the opiate of the mass oh wait I'm dying yeah this dude yeah she gets called out and Steve runs after her and he's the first to run afoul of the pumpkin head you see I love a good
Starting point is 01:30:21 just like someone's getting picked up out of frame in a movie. That's something, because I would love to, you can't do this probably because the technology's not there. The pumpkin head is a class A fucking tree climber. Yes. And you look at these feet.
Starting point is 01:30:39 That doesn't seem like someone who could get up on a tree for me. But every, like half the deaths, he's reaching down from a tree and ripping them up into the branch. It's predator-esque. It is predator-esque. But if he was part pumpkin, You could have like vines and shit that are pulling them around. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:56 A little Spider-Many thing in there. You're reminding me of something. Have you ever seen over the garden wall? What is that? What is that? It's an amazing. Here's the thing. Here's the stipulation.
Starting point is 01:31:05 I know the answer. I know. I know. But like, is the answer, no. I haven't seen it. No, I know you haven't seen it. It's an animated thing. But it's eerie as fuck.
Starting point is 01:31:14 And the music's really cool. I think you don't like it. What country is it from? The United States of America. Really? Yes. Interesting. But part of it is like, I watch it like every year around this time.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Like part of it is you're getting pumpkin people, dude. And they're like, you're at the big pumpkin ball. And this is freaky as fuck. I like that. So how does Steve get it here? He gets lifted up. He gets lifted up. He gets slammed on the floor kind of a thing.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I think it's like them all. Yeah. It's a choke slam. Yeah. It's a pumpkin head finishing move. My God, Steve is dead. Oh, pumpkin head off the top, bro. But through the table, pumpkin.
Starting point is 01:31:52 head. That's just brutal. This is where Maggie, the Christian girl, like, runs inside and starts praying because she saw the devil. Sure. She has grabbed hair first by pumpkin head, though, like, sort of runs back out, I think. And you see, like, she's just being dragged by a, not a hoof, but like a claw hand, like pulling her hair or whatever. And Pumpkinhead, for some reason, he's got some beef with the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I don't know what it is. Oh, yeah, he really goes to town. He's like, oh, Christian. He doesn't say anything, but it's like, oh, Christian girl. and he puts a cross on her head before he kills her. Nice. It's pretty righteous. Unbelievers who are not converted to pumpkinism.
Starting point is 01:32:31 That's true. I mean, they have to go. Do you think we should get pumpkin head vision to this movie? It's all orange. Oh, I would love that, actually. It would be really cool. I mean, he's just a big, he's a big, he's a big hair.
Starting point is 01:32:42 It looks like one of the middle phases of the werewolf in, in, in American, American Well, yeah, but before he transforms, before he gets hairy. A little bit like when like an Evil Dead 2 or the Evil starts manifesting and it's like, it gets a little stretchy. Yep. Yep. Yeah, a little bit like that. He also looks like he could be in an X file somewhere, like, mozying around in the back of one. Totally.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I'll also throw out he could be like the third guy. If they needed a third guy in Turtles 2, it's Toka, Razar and Pumpkin. Yep. I can see that. I mean, it is that like, it's a fella. in a suit, but there's like a very detailed face on the monster. Also, he could maybe be one of the blue collar comedy tour guys. I thought it might have been Jeff Foxworthy.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Ron White's too much of a crippling alcoholic these days. He's off the tour. Bring in pumpkin head to replace him. I'm not sure if we even got really point made a point of this. The pumpkin head's like six foot nine. Oh, yeah. This, you get pumpkin head on a court, I think. Oh, you get a ball.
Starting point is 01:33:50 you give him away from this murdering stuff summon him to win the championship oh my god him playing it for the Lakers and Jacks just clapping oh I'm sorry there's no rule in the book that a vengeance demon can play basketball pumpkin head in the paint
Starting point is 01:34:05 have you ever seen something so beautiful the coach has to like go to the holler witch and say he wants vengeance on every single team they play look they killed my record so look I really appreciate
Starting point is 01:34:20 She ain't you coming out here and talking to us like this. But it's just not how it's done. I don't think I could avenge your loss to the Celtics, Pat Riley. I always knew that the Lakers were going to go all the way with Pumpkin Head. So something, something. Oh, where could Maggie be classic? And this, I guess it's now just a proud tradition with this cabin. Because of what goes on that Fourth Friday of the 13th movie.
Starting point is 01:34:50 this girl goes right through this kitchen window. Oh, it's brutal. And it's kind of just like pumpkin heads just dropping her off. Like now you deal with it. There's an amazing part where they're like running around the cabin after she gets pulled out. Like, oh my God, there's something out here. What can it be? Do you catch, there's one shot, it's pumpkinhead casually walking by the window?
Starting point is 01:35:13 Yeah. Just like, now what's the best way to get into this house here? I'll huff and all puffing up. I'm kidding. I'm joking. I'm joking around. Yeah, I'm going to throw your dead friend through the window. They said, hey, there, Pumpkin Head,
Starting point is 01:35:24 tick walk on the wild side. Oh, fuck, I got to kill somebody. Here's a question. And I mean, like, because, like, they say, you know, once it happens, you're marked. And Pumpkinhead always knows where you are. He's always going to find you. And that's why no one can interfere
Starting point is 01:35:39 because if you're in the way, you will get hurt as well. Yeah. What is the marking process? Like, because, hey, look, pumpkinhead, I was, I didn't have a dirt bike. my name is Maggie, I'm Christian, like, yeah, I was in the car with these people. I think it's just the city folk. The city folk umbrella.
Starting point is 01:35:58 It's guilt by association, which is unfortunate because I had the same thought, Steve, because like literally the first guy to go, Steve, he's the guy that stayed with the kid. But also, is it worth summoning fucking pumpkinhead for one kill? You want to get a package deal, I think. Well, that called open appears to be that case. There was somebody else. There was like two guys out there. We didn't kill that girl.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I think there's another fellow. Oh, I just thought it was Dick Warlock. You want your killings to be a spree. Yeah, you want to have a couple there. I mean, they're going to serve you in heaven or hell. You need to want a couple of them. Good point. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:36:31 So Pumpkinhead just killed that guy, Joel. What about Steve? And wait, and Todd Gack got killed by Pumpkinhead. Now Pumpkinhead's also dead. And the judge decreed that Gack becomes his butler in hell. You know what? You can kill Gypsy too. He's the reason he was out there.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Oh, yeah. You know what? Off the dog. Primo, thanks to this screenplay from Letton Gypsy. He survived to the credits. He absolutely does. He absolutely does. So we should say when the killin goes down, we start realizing there's like a link between Pumpkin Head and Lance Henrickson. He's seeing them. He's seeing it go down, but he's also feeling it like he's doubled over like some sort of stomach pain or diarrhea. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like, I don't know Pumpkinhead Just give me a phone call Like I got another one Don't worry
Starting point is 01:37:25 That Christian girl She's long dead I'll follow up in a few hours But you do remember What the witch said About the bad stuff That happens When you take breath
Starting point is 01:37:34 Yeah you're shitting yourself As part of it Yeah you're going to hell as well But yeah you're shitting yourself Every time it happens There's one fucking final indignity Before you spend eternity in hell You're just shitting your pants
Starting point is 01:37:43 6 times Oh whatever you do Do not change your pants It's just gonna keep happening As long as there's a live city folk. When you die, you do shit your pants.
Starting point is 01:37:52 True. But once, one glorious one. I don't know. I haven't died yet. Well, okay. You have a collect call
Starting point is 01:37:59 from Pumpkinhead. Yeah, I'll accept the charges. Yeah, just got another one. Just want to let you know. Thanks for paying for the call. Or if Pumpkinhead's like
Starting point is 01:38:09 trying to be courteous, he wants to get the information in before you accept charges. Pumpkin hey, I want to do a dog. Oh, fuck. I got the blind girl I used to do like when I was a kid
Starting point is 01:38:23 and I would call my parents and like you know the 90s to pick me up somewhere you'd set you call collect and then like try to get it all in oh yeah I'm at the do that yep oh yeah did you do that because you were inspired
Starting point is 01:38:35 by that commercial I think it was like a 10 10 220 commercial I was impressionable because it was like I think about this commercial to this day where it was like 10 10 220 or one of those things where it's like you know, a different way to call
Starting point is 01:38:50 if you didn't have a quarter, but it's not exactly call and collect. And the whole thing was like, isn't it always a problem when you don't, you want to call somebody, but you can't afford it and you got to do this? And it's a guy calling his parents to announce the birth of their child.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Okay. And he goes, it's like, please state your name. And he goes, Bob, we had a baby, it's a boy. Yes, now I remember. Okay, I think about that all the time. And like, of all the first,
Starting point is 01:39:17 phone calls not to cheap out on well I mean I think that's the point I think the commercial you see Andrew was taking it to a comical extreme oh yeah comical you say I've heard about those excellent these jokes you speak of comedy and advertising interesting
Starting point is 01:39:34 well I think of next pumpkin heads raised in hell he's raised in hell and Hendrickson once he sees what's going on and I think it's also like it's not so much the guilt over the kids being murdered it's like man this diarrhea sensation is really awful. Yeah, we have to stop that first and foremost. I want the kids dead, but the cramps, my lord, the cramps.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Exactly. So he goes back to the holler witch and he's like, hey, this sucks. Buyer's remorse, I will admit it. And she's basically just like, you gotta let it do the magic head, Holly. He happened to have a diet pumpkin head. I just want half of what I've got now. Caffeine free pumpkinhead, many chance. Some version of this. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:40:16 She gave me Olestra pump My cramps are even worse The taste the same But the shit comes quicker Oh it's a liquid thing now Oh He says something like Oh stop it
Starting point is 01:40:29 Don't work you foo You're failing your die If I die I die And at this point like yeah Of course Who the fuck cares about You're gonna open that fucking shit store tomorrow
Starting point is 01:40:42 No no no no What's gonna happen What's gonna take it Let him have it. His life is over. His vengeance should have been himself. Yeah. Buckflower is like, oh, great.
Starting point is 01:40:52 I can move my family into the storm. Four more of my kids can come in here now. Oh, God. You sleep on the potatoes. You sleep next to the cash register. Yeah. Because that kid's named potatoes and that kids named cash register. One of the girls dies in the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Is that how this happens? What happens in the kitchen? Doesn't what does the body get thrown through a window in the kitchen? That happens. It is fucking hilarious though. This is what I was saying. This guy's got a real... It's in the house now, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:21 It's the house. This dude's got a real sense of humor because when he goes to throw Maggie through the window, he's like holding the back of her head. And he puts it up to the window without smashing into her person. Like, hi, I'm Maggie. I love the Lord Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I got you. It's just me pumpkinhead smash. Yes. And they all kind of freak out. It's where it like gets Kim, the, the girlfriend for Joel's girlfriend. Yes. which I think she at this point is just kind of like
Starting point is 01:41:47 knocked to the ground initially and like pumpkin head this is kind of great like you do see him just walk through this kitchen doorway and it's nice to know that the monster fits in the house I don't know why but I was like all right he's not ducking and as I said like a lumber this fucking thing goes to the tallest tree around brings this body with it's great
Starting point is 01:42:10 and just tosses her down on a rock a perfect ceremonial rock right in the middle of the woods. It's a big. It's a face plant special. So many babies have just been killed on this. This is a mid-Somar. She's been samared here. Absolutely. Because Joel is the one who sees Pumpkinhead in the kitchen. Like, he runs in after discovering like the motorbikes were all fucked up or whatever. And he comes in and like this monster just sachets into the fucking doorway or whatever.
Starting point is 01:42:39 He's like, what is going on here? Pumpkinhead takes the girlfriend's body and yeah, they jumps up the tree and they're all like, don't do it, Pumpkin Head. What's that? Do it? You got it. And then that leaves, I think, oh, then Joel is the next to go. These are all kind of like dispatched really quickly.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Yes, because, and then like, I think Ed Harley shows up and he's trying to stop Pumpkinhead. Yes. And very, he accidentally cuts his arm and then Pumpkin in goes, oh hey oh i didn't know it worked both ways like what are you that he he like gets caught on on a on a brand no he gets caught on the door with like a
Starting point is 01:43:20 with a cord and he stabs himself with a pitchfork or something that's at the end that is one of the funniest what the hell were you doing moments in the movie yeah they're running through the woods now ed harley's on their side essentially but then well they're like running through like the hillbilly village And it's like basically what happened at the start of the movie
Starting point is 01:43:42 They're all banging on the doors And like there is this one really great Like old lady just peels back the curtain Like I ain't helping you none And just kind of closes it And they're all like banging on the doors or whatever This is where I noticed this Chris guy The dude from Superman
Starting point is 01:43:56 He also kind of looks exactly like Tim Heidecker with like a big curly hair blowout Yeah I say that He's probably the same age Tim Heidecker is now in this movie But I think Joel gets it here by getting impaled by a shotgun. Ooh, yes. Oh, no, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:44:12 That's right. They blast the fuck out of pumpkin head. Pumpkin head goes down. And then they're like, well, that's the end of pumpkin head. And I think he goes to the check. And then someone's like, Joel, don't. It's a great thing of like pumpkin head perfect comedic timing this guy. Because Joel's like, it's dead.
Starting point is 01:44:31 And a pumpkin head is like, oh, yeah. And like immediately grabs the ankle right after he says it, which is awesome. It is so good because it's like, once. Pumpkinhead then picks up the gun. I'm going to be like, pumpkin head shooting bullets? Yes. It's going to be amazing.
Starting point is 01:44:44 I, dude, I thought it was going to be like a pumpkin head. Yeah. But no, you just, uh, he just shoves it into this guy's belly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:51 So like uses him as a puppet basically. Yeah, he tells him. He's like playing with the head. Like it's like he's like a lion or like a dog like playing with the prey or whatever. It's cool. What was that movie?
Starting point is 01:45:01 Does I remember this movie where it's a movie where it's pretty popular one where like this happened and like they used the body to, uh, get the next bullet from dust till dawn is that yes I think it's from yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:45:13 how many points Steve it was either that or like Sean of the dead or something but yeah I think it's yeah but meanwhile now it's just Chris and is it Terry is the woman there the last Tracy Tracy
Starting point is 01:45:27 Chris and Tracy the last two they were the good guys they wanted to call the cops immediately the whole thing and again I just want to be like who can I talk is there someone I could talk to here like where's pumpkin
Starting point is 01:45:37 head customer service. Please hold for Satan. Our next evil representative is available in the next a million years. 666 hours. Speak to a representative. Holler witch. I want to speak to the hot. Oh, she's smoking her eye of
Starting point is 01:45:56 Newt. Great. Okay, good. But they're running around. They wind up at Buck Flowers holler. They're banging on the doors and nobody's picking up and Bunt is looking out the window like we should probably help them like you get you get to bed boy you get you get there's a weird because like buckflower is now like you know the patriarch of his family is like the grandfather sure to bunt and then there's
Starting point is 01:46:17 like middle guy dad who's not a character which is not at all he's just like you get to bed boy you listen to your grandpappy also like the the logistics question like grandpappy is it is that thing out there going to hurt the animals no no no son he only goes after the marked ones You don't got to worry about A pumpkin and what you got to worry about is motorbikes Take out any day It only kills what it's called upon
Starting point is 01:46:46 To kill Yeah And that would get in its way Right Yeah That's true The poem remember that So Bunn
Starting point is 01:46:56 decides to sneak out And his His sister here Who I don't see if I can find it Because I think she was somebody Everybody's somebody Well no I guess
Starting point is 01:47:06 disagree. Oh, the sister's character name is Hesse. She was on the entirety of one-season show, my so-called life. She's one of the in the friend group. She was one of the ones that were so-calling it. I think that's right. Oh, my God. I think she's like friends with Claire Danes or something. But then Bunt here takes them to this derelict church in the woods because they tried to bring God here and it didn't stick. It just did not stick, which is such a great thing. Yeah, love the whole set design of this burned out church, really cool. And I guess he won't come here
Starting point is 01:47:41 because it's like, it's hollowed ground or something. Yeah, with Christianity and whatnot. When Pumpkinhead shows up, he just tosses the cross in the ground. Dude, he walks right in, which is great. And they like beat it out the other side of it. And yeah, like the movie plays, the movie makes you think that this is going to make a difference.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Because here's this crucifix hanging from the wall and he just looks at it like, yeah, fucking right. Pulls it off the wall and throws it up. What this shit? Are you serious? Tell me another one. This is where pumpkin head starts being like a little stinker.
Starting point is 01:48:14 He's doing that. And then like coming up, he like, yeah, I'll just take their chain off their bike. Like, how did you know that pumpkin head? Dude, how do you know how a motorcycle works pumpkin head? He's like dangling it. And it's a definite predator laugh. I just realized because he was killed by the greasers who might have had a motorcycle. Oh, that might be it.
Starting point is 01:48:33 It wouldn't be funny if you just caught pumpkin head like putting sugar in a gas. This is pretty shit Potato in the exhaust pipe This'll get him Yeah, I put the banana in the tailpipe I did it He only puts the banana in the tailpipe What he's called upon
Starting point is 01:48:47 To put the banana in the tailpipe By the LAPD Oh he's gonna help you now Eddie Murphy But yeah So he I do love He does dangle it Like I got it
Starting point is 01:49:03 Definitely does It's so fucking funny This guy, he is a little stinker, this pumpkin head. And he grabs Chris on and motorcycles and all and throws him against a tree. It's awesome. It's a good pumpkinhead power move here. Again, like the undertaker, like, I didn't think he could lift a motorcycle, but he totally does. throws this dude, the bike like kind of lands on him.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Ed Harley is like, come back to my place. We'll be safe there. Yeah, get in my truck. Because Pumpkinhead also definitely steps on this dude's back. It looks great. That's a great moment. But that, speaking of someone who's, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:36 for the first time recently has been having some back issues. That might fix some issues right there. Oh, yeah. Crack it right up. Yep, yep. Lower lumbar. Come back here.
Starting point is 01:49:48 A little lower. Yeah, there it is. Between the blades. Right between it. The only Cairo packs what he's called upon. And those backs that get in his way. Yeah, you'll be coming back to him in five months to have him do it again.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Then you start thinking, he create the problem and he's a profiting off of it now? I don't know. Chicken or the egg, chiropractor or the back of pain. Who knows? He, uh, in the truck to Ed Harley's house, awkward conversation here where it's like, yeah, so, and I again, if I'm, if I'm Tracy here, I want to be like, I want to be really clear. I didn't kill your kid. I was on, I was on a motorcycle. My boyfriend was on a motorcycle. And I wanted to call the cops immediately. These assholes. half of whom are dead, or they're all dead.
Starting point is 01:50:35 I have whom I didn't even like, by the way. That, that Joel guy was a real dickhead. You know what, little girl? That's great, but not the time or the place. He almost, he killed somebody, didn't he? What the fact before this even? So we get back to Lance's house for the finale here, and Pumpkinhead shows up.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Lance, immediately getting this flamethrower ready. You see a flamethrower being used to tend a yard at the beginning of a. the film. It best be used to murder a monster at the end of it. That's how I was hoping that episode of how to John Wilson would end as well. Pumpkinhead arrives dragging Chris with him
Starting point is 01:51:15 which I think is kind of interesting. Who's still alive? It's like, yeah, I'm gonna. Oh, fuck. If no one sees it, it's not as cool. Hold on Chris, come here. I know I stepped on your back and everything, but the traditional pumpkinhead method of Moyda is to drop you from a high distance. So you got to come with me until I could find your
Starting point is 01:51:33 friends and they can find a ladder and I can climb up it and drop. That is actually an improvement in the sequel is that he, his new favorite thing is ripping things off of people. Oh, wow. So like eight powers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Yeah. And one head does get pulled off as well as well. I love that. Not so bad. Not so bad. There is a great thing where like there's a really lame jump scare and it's like just the dog and Bunt is like oh, few, just a dog. And then pumpkin head immediately like bursts in. Pumpkinhead kind of takes this kid hostage
Starting point is 01:52:05 because it's like, I know you didn't do nothing, but you're best not getting my way. Now, I will only speak to Kevin Spacey. Listen to me now. I will only speak to him. But so this is, Henriksen comes out with the flame throw, and he's like, all right, Pumpkinhead, here it comes. I'm going to get you.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Oh, I just walked right into a pitch for it. What a foolish mood. It's your farm. You know where the. fucking pitchfork is. Absolutely. I get it, man. You got like this like pumpkin head like shared brainwaves diarrhea thing going on. Your eyeballs are changing into like monster color. That's kind of fun. It is pretty good shit. But still like you got to see that pitchfork coming. It's the stress. And also I mean, you don't want to say it because the boy's dead, but Billy probably left it out like that.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Yeah. Playing with the pitchforks. It's the kid's fault. And listen, but this confirms for the audio and Lance Hendrickson because he sees it. Pumpkin, it's like, ow, fuck. It, like, again, not the budget to do it, but, like, it would be awesome if, like, five holes just opened up, like, on Pumpkinhead's shoulder or whatever. But, yeah, it's just like, ow.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Well, I guess the best I can do is kind of make your face with my face. That's what starts happening here, which is cool. It's like Pumpkinhead's face starts kind of looking more like Lance Hendrickson, which is weird. I'm glad you said more like,
Starting point is 01:53:30 because they do look alike in general. Yeah, they do. I thought they were twins. monster visages. He's my brother. He's not as wet as me. But this is when he's like, well, I guess it's the Stevensonic rule of movies. Absolutely. Time to shoot. And kill myself.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Yeah. Embarrassing, dude. What a botched job. Dude, put the gun in your mouth. Oh, but Steve, I mean, you're waiting for all the other people to die first before you do it, right? You're not going to, are you going to heroic? It's not going to see Pumpkinhead. It's time to go. Oh, wait. Not even seeing it, dude, is like, oh, what's coming after me?
Starting point is 01:54:05 Got it. I'll be in the bathroom. I don't want to be thrown on the ground violently. That sounds bad. I don't want to be dropped from a high distance. I wonder if the vik, if who you summoned, you're like, you summoned pumpkin head to kill someone and that person kills himself before pumpkin head can do it. Is he just hanging around for a few days?
Starting point is 01:54:22 Well, I think it might be what happens here, right? Because, like, Lance, you know, what's her face takes the gun? Tracy takes the gun. It puts another like four or five into. Lance. Well, he's just to say he shoot, Lance Anderson kind of shoots in some of the head. He's got like next to him. And you think that's the end of the movie because he's like, and he dies. And then sort of
Starting point is 01:54:41 as a final jump scare, they both get up at the same time. Right, right. Because I guess the bullet grazed his head or some. And I think now Lance Henderson might be evil too. Because he's like, he's got the eyes. He's got the eyes. But he does do a classic move. Kill me. Absolutely. And she fucking lights this dude up. And so when Lance
Starting point is 01:54:59 dies, I think what happens here, like if you are the person who summoned pumpkin in and then you eat shit no matter what. Pumpkin head is bursting into flames right. Yeah, he goes back to skeleton for him. You know, so he had that kill me also when he went back to the witch, he had a classic not like this. Yeah. Not like this. I wanted all these kids to be dead but not like this. You know, come on man. I didn't want to shit
Starting point is 01:55:21 myself. I just wanted them dead. Honestly, it's the diarrhea cramps. It's really, really uncomfortable. I'm so dehydrated. I'm so there isn't even clear water around. You didn't. You didn't tell me. I wouldn't be able to stop shitting. And there's no paedioly. I mean, it'll come around here no more. Oh, pediolite hasn't been president of this county ever.
Starting point is 01:55:45 I put a letter into the corporation. They said they wouldn't sell it at Arley Grocery. But so he's dead and that's kind of it, right? Yeah, Chris, Tracy, and Bunt are all still alive there. And then we get a little bit of a little bit of an outro of Hagus, the witch. another job well-dime pumpkin and putting it back in the tree stump and burying it. But the big twist
Starting point is 01:56:10 is that it's it she doesn't bury pumpkin head she buries Ed Harley because it's got the necklace on it. So he will be the next pumpkin head is the idea. I guess that's the idea right but it's weird because like it's still the pumpkin head skeleton it looks like it doesn't look like a corpse. I think he transformed into the public because he was transforming anyway.
Starting point is 01:56:30 So even after he gets blown away The body keeps turning into a pumpkinhead monster you're saying That's what this movie would have me believe Got it That sounds right Got it Beautiful Yeah I put it is
Starting point is 01:56:42 I put a glaze on it He age it the right way Pumpkin head just don't get created You got to put a special potion on it I gotta do a lot of stuff to it To make it work right To get some olive oil Some wash of sester sauce
Starting point is 01:56:55 Cup up a cup of cloves of garlic You got some time in there Oh, whoops, I made gumbo by accident Well, yeah, I put the body and the chicken breasts in there Ain't no difference I was trying to preserve another pumpkin head corpse When I said I accidentally made gumbo And it's delicious
Starting point is 01:57:16 That's the end of this movie Yeah, sort of freeze frame on the shitty necklace That the kid made for him And that's the end of the film Stan Winston's directorial debut go around the horn here. Final thoughts, Eric Siska? Yeah, it's a recommend for me. I really like this movie. I saw it a few times
Starting point is 01:57:35 before. This, the creature effects are cool. I like how it's lean. Like, this is a great thing to throw in the middle of a marathon. 86 minutes. Bing, bang, boom. It's a fun little movie. Chris Cabin. Yeah, I'd like the first half. The stuff leading up to
Starting point is 01:57:53 when the kills actually start having. This is rare for the kills are not my favorite part of it. Like, it's all the moodiness. of the witch's place and like to create the lore of Pumpkinhead, that's what's interesting to me and of course the child being killed. The kills like, it's fine,
Starting point is 01:58:10 but like it's just kind of like, well, we're going to kill them all. Here we go. Bob, pop, pop, pop. And like, that's a little boring. But whatever, it's fun. Steve Zana. Yeah, I kind of agree with Chris. I think you can amp the kills up a little bit and this is like a real four star right now. It's like a three and a half. It's a solid recommend. Yeah. The mood is great and I do like to watch Lance
Starting point is 01:58:31 Henriksen work when he gets a chance to work as opposed to just sort of like being around I mean previous episode Hard Target he's working in that movie oh he absolutely is yes he's just a fun really cool screen presence so I enjoy
Starting point is 01:58:47 watching him do stuff and end stuff out of character here so that's kind of cool to watch and yeah and all the creature effects are great and you know the mood is fantastic so it's a solid recommend for me yeah no solid recommend for me too it is that weird like it's a creature feature that then also tries to be a slasher movie which it doesn't need to be
Starting point is 01:59:05 like you know that's fine but if you are going to do that then yeah let's see some stuff and we're just not like dropping people let's come on he's got those claws start you got the tail with the point at the end of it much like the devil himself well I'll have to check out this sequel it sounds like they amp up a little bit of that it's you know there's not as much the blood is
Starting point is 01:59:28 sometimes they bring it out but it's mostly just like throw it against the wall stuff not like I don't mind a little throw on the wall then you probably enjoy it then let me ask you this you said Kane Hodder's in the movie
Starting point is 01:59:39 is he playing Pumpkin Head or is he a guy? No he gets he's one of the victims of oh I like that that's pretty cool I might have to check that out tonight myself pre-onplex if you have it what is that? It's like one of the streaming sites
Starting point is 01:59:52 Oh got it well but that is going to do it for this episode on Pumpkin Head if you want more We hate movies. Gotta check out Patreon.com slash we hate movies where right now available is a We Love Movies episode
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Starting point is 02:01:00 Knight's Charter member. And out now at the $10 level of course if you're top tier patron, speaking of horror, quote unquote horror movies with magic in them, Chris Kavanaugh once in a lifetime. What are we talking about? We're talking about Killer Under the Bed, which is a doll horror movie. More movie than
Starting point is 02:01:18 doll horror. It's a fun little number. Also, doll is comfortably in quotation marks. Mostly stick. Another magical thing is the society commentary track. That's coming out this month. Yeah, speaking of the
Starting point is 02:01:34 kid who played Bunt in this movie he's playing a nerd in that. You can hear Steve grow terrifyingly quiet as he watches the movie unfold, which is a beautiful thing to hear. But that's speaking to Yuzna, man. That's probably his most infamous motion picture.
Starting point is 02:01:50 So definitely check that out as well. The society mentary now next week, the spooktacular continues? It sure does. We got one more, yeah? Two more. Oh, my God. Steve, well, what is the next one at least? Well, you know, you're going to lock your doors because for some reason
Starting point is 02:02:05 one night a year, crime is legal or something. It's the purge. Oh, man. The one that started at all. I've never seen this one. Really? Oh, really? The worst of the bunch. I would say. Maybe the last one wasn't so good, but I saw this because I was like, how cool
Starting point is 02:02:21 Ethan Hawke, and then I remember being heavily underwhelmed and I have never seen a single sequel because I dislike the first movie so much you gotta do it. Oh God. Yeah, I see you see these. I only saw the first one of the second one. The second one's kind of good. Anarchy. Yeah, anarchy is really fun. I like, I think I like all of them other than the first purge. The first one's
Starting point is 02:02:45 the first is not that, it's pretty good. That's right. Yeah, yeah. It's the last like the forever purge is the bad thing. I see. I mean, so what's good for the goose man. Like when we do those saw movies or whatever, I fucking watch all of them. I have no excuse not to watch as we go on. But next week, we're talking about the purge. It's Ethan Hawk being scared. People are trying to kill his family or
Starting point is 02:03:04 something. He ties a dude up to a chair for most of the movie. That's exciting. It's something. It's something. So we'll see a little purge re-evaluation next week on We Hate Movies. But until then, I've been Andrew Juppin. Stephen Seda. Eric's Cisco. Chris Cabin. Take it easy.
Starting point is 02:03:22 We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a title of one good scare. Sometimes, that is better. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in! It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicca Land. They're coming to get you. Coming to get you, Barbara.
Starting point is 02:03:55 He's sick for fucks using one too many movies. Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos. More creative! Put the fucking lotion in the bag! What an excellent day for an exited.

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