We Hate Movies - S14 Ep702: Pumpkinhead
Episode Date: October 17, 2023“[Pumpkinhead is] not a major player when you’re dealing out October recommendations…I would argue, maybe it should be?” - Andrew On this week’s episode, the Halloween Spooktacular contin...ues as the guys talk about the totally kick-ass Lance Henriksen horror vehicle, Pumpkinhead! How great is this big, Stan Winston Workshop-created monster suit? How bad does this witch’s house smell? And is there a functioning toilet anywhere in this town? PLUS: Steve dramatically reads the poem that inspired the film! Pumpkinhead stars Lance Henriksen, Jeff East, John D’Aquino, Kimberly Ross, Joel Hoffman, Cynthia Bain, Kerry Remsen, Florence Schauffler, Brian Bremer, Dick Warlock, and George ‘Buck’ Flower as Mr. Wallace; directed by Stan Winston. Today’s episode is sponsored in part by James Allen Dot Com. Get 25% off your order when you go to jamesallen.com and use code WHM at checkout! Snag your tix now for our 10/26 worldwide digital experience where we’ll be talking FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE FINAL CHAPTER! Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Be sure to get in early and get your tickets for the WHM Holiday Extravaganza where we’re talking The Santa Clause! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!
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This week on the program, just another friendly reminder, folks.
Never cross Lance Henrickson.
It's Pumpkinhead. I'm Andrew Pumpkin.
Stephen Shady.
Eric Siska.
Chris Harley.
And we hate movies.
We all go a little mad sometimes.
You know, it's Halloween.
I guess everyone's a title of one good scare.
Sometimes dead is murder.
Zombies have entered the building.
They're at the door. They're coming in!
It is time to keep your appointment with the wicker man.
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
He's sick for fucks using one too many movies.
Now, Sid! Don't you blame the movies?
Movies don't create psychos! Movies make psychos!
Movies make psychos!
for creative.
Put the fucking lotion in the bag.
What an excellent day for an accident.
Hello, everyone.
Welcome to We Hate Movies.
Thank you for tuning in, as always.
That's right.
The Sputacular continues with something I hadn't seen in a while,
but I forgot how much I do enjoy it.
It's Pumpkinhead from 1988,
directed by Stan the Man Winston, RIP.
The King.
Yeah.
The best.
Good little flick.
Good little flick.
It's a nice little compact little guy.
Yeah, except for that pumpkin head.
He's a little big guy.
Bulbous.
You know what?
And it's a monster in a suit.
Uh-huh.
And it's great.
And it's like Stan Winston's like team did it.
You know, so you know it's going to be good.
Even though Stan the man himself did not have time to.
Sort of unrelated.
But what I was thinking about while watching this was you remember that XTC song from the early 90s,
the ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead?
Oh, my God.
Oh my God. So good. It's about the JFK assassination.
Oh, okay. You see, JFK is Peter Pumpkinhead because he's got a big old Irish knog.
And that was, it was on the soundtrack to dumb and dumber.
It was, but it was the crash test dummies covering it. Yeah, I don't.
Anyway, we're counting down the top hits of the 90s coming up next.
Welcome back to GrungeCast.
The cardigans up next.
I wish.
We could just play. If we could just cut to music and go away for a little while.
That would be great, right.
And then everyone know that's the bathroom stuff.
Dear, I fear we're faced with a problem.
I have to piss.
What do you think I was doing at fucking Purchase College Radio?
Dude, if you heard me play four songs in a row, I was taking a shit.
Definitely.
You have to do it.
Yeah, nice drum and bass number going on in the pipes.
Speaking of a Goldian on there.
Speaking of cutting away really quickly,
let play really quickly.
Coming soon to theaters.
It's the VHS trailer game.
That's right.
Thank you.
now in its third season, our 14th season.
Yes, it's in its heyday.
There is a returning champion.
There is.
Wow. Unz.
Pardon me?
Champion.
Yes.
Well, yeah.
That was like years ago.
It was exactly years ago.
It's like Trump talking about the 2020 election.
Just now it's years ago.
Anyway, champion Eric Siska.
Go ahead.
That's right.
It's the VHS trailer game.
America's favorite game of
obsolete materials. I am your
J. Master Stephen Sadek. We are
going to go through, as you know, I'm going to
task these gentlemen with
questions that relate to
trailers that I found on VHS's
related to Pumpkinhead, and I'll get to that in a second.
Oh, no, no, no, no, hold on. And
you know, the scoring goes
5, 4, 3, 2, 1. If you buzz in,
and you're out, you buzz in, and you
guess in correctly, you are out for the round.
I can come back for the next round.
Now, I had to go
the two different YouTube videos.
One was a Pumpkinhead VHS
and the other one was a Pumpkinhead
VHS UK rental tape.
Interesting. The dates
of these movies are kind of like
all over the place within the late 80s, so I
will give you the year the movie came out.
Okay. Do you want to rent pumpkin
that? Yeah. And you're the trainers
that come before it on the tape.
Oh, I think we elected a few
pumpkin heads to run the country.
I haven't why? Oh, my God. Boris Johnson.
My God. That guy is a real fucking
pumpkin head, pumpkin gut, pumpkin body. Who do I have to kill to get that guy down?
Like, not him, but somebody else. Like, his, his surrogate who summoned him.
By the way, why do we call it rounds, you know? Why not squares? We're squaring off, you know?
Sure. It's rounds like a boxing match, you see. Right. But why do they, but why do they call it that?
Because sometimes, dude, especially in the English language, like words can mean two different things.
Really? Yeah. So round is like your round, round like your ass.
I wish it was
Holy Crow that thing's got some miles on it
Trapezoidal
All right so here we go
Round one
From 1989
This was the only
99
89
89
89
Okay thank God
This is the only
This is the only trailer
On the pumpkinhead VHS
Okay
Game Masters
Clue
Here we go
A rowdy high water mark
For an 80s star
Who left us too soon
This actioner uses
A low stakes profession
to deliver the maximum amount of violence
as our hero goes against a Kazavetti staple
slumming it as a heavy.
A lot of info there.
A lot of info.
A rowdy high watermark for an 80s star
that left us too soon.
This actioner uses a low stakes profession
to deliver the maximum amount of violence
as our hero goes against a Kazavetti staple
slumming it as a heavy.
Interesting. So it stars a dead fellow.
That's sure.
That he's a Keshevetti's guy
Peter Falk
Ben Gazara
A low stakes profession
Chris Cabin
Is this roadhouse
It is roadhouse
Of course
For some reason
I thought he died
By 89
From the phrasing there
Wow
I mean
I gotta tighten up these questions
I think you gotta tighten up your brain
dude
This brain is out
Out for repairs
All right
Round 2 19
We got to get that
long life. He died, what, like 60
years old? Yeah, but he died young. I wanted to see
late Swayzee. Excuse me.
Yeah, I wanted to see. He died like 55 years old.
Well, you saw him. That's late.
Just take the loss.
I'm proud and out loud. You couldn't
think of it. Shut the fuck up.
I'm entertaining
our fans.
All right. Round two
1987 here.
A relatively obscure
sci-by-action thriller
with more than just a hint of body horror
this follows a cop and an FBI
agent with something to hide,
chasing a hard rock-loving, carnage-spewing
alien menace through Los Angeles.
Eric Siska.
A dark angel, aka I come in peace.
It is not Dark Angel.
That's what I was a good guess.
A relatively obscure, but I think actually
this clue probably works for both of them,
sadly. A relatively obscure
sci-fi action thriller with more than a hint
of body horror follows a cop.
and an FBI agent with something to hide,
chasing a hard rock-loving, carnage-spewing alien menace
through the streets of Los Angeles.
Oh, Chris Gavin?
It's the Hidden?
It is the Hidden for five big points.
Good movie.
Oh, great.
Which one is that?
It's Kyle McLaughlin.
And some other, yeah.
And Michael Norrie.
Yes, Michael Norrie.
It's a lot of fun.
It's cool.
Jack's shoulder directed it.
It's basically like an alien is hopping into different people's bodies.
and causing all sorts of carnage.
These people don't know each other.
How are they doing?
You would like it.
It's kind of like a body snatch.
It's that and the action is insane.
Like it goes,
I recommend everybody do it.
I actually did it on the Slezoids podcast, actually.
I was thinking of,
what was that Robert Forster movie?
The protector, I think, baby.
That movie.
That's a good one.
That's what's going on with these aliens.
It turns out I am one.
Oh, no.
It's so funny.
I went in the bathroom, found out,
as an alien. Him going like, yeah,
sense of human. Yeah, we don't got that where I'm from.
Anywho, yeah, I'm a cop
chasing a serial killer alien. Oh, yeah, I know you can't tell
which, am I the cop or is he the cop?
We'll see. No, yeah, Jackie. It actually makes the most sense
to go into bail bonds as an alien. You just
know where the outsiders are going to be.
There's definitely one part too where like he gets like
burned or something happens and he's like, yeah, I'm waiting
for my skin to grow back. And he looks like fucking
Lou Gassu Jr. and enemy mine a little bit.
What year is that?
90.
Oh, I like.
Yeah.
It's honestly, it's so much stunts.
It's well worth your time.
It's kind of nonstop stunts.
And also it's directed by the guy who did witchboard.
Oh, so you know, it's like just got a hint of crazy in it too.
It's a lot of fun.
And so that's the protector.
Also, also the hidden, by the way.
But I think both could, you could add those to your spookacular.
Yeah.
For sure.
Especially since aliens are around now.
Exactly.
We know that.
UFO reports?
Tom was.
right, dude.
Round
round three.
1686 now.
Go back to the year
of 1986.
Crack was king.
Game Masters
Kalu.
Often cited as the
I got it, by the way,
sequel.
This one swapped
one legendary director
for another one
and up the pace
in high action
adventure and Andrew Jupin.
Aliens.
It's aliens.
Nice.
And our hero in return
albeit a bit more bad ass.
So that, there you go.
Aliens with the dollar sign, remember.
Relevant to our conversation,
Lance Henriksen, if that movie didn't work out,
he was going to quit acting.
Like, apparently, like, he'd just been, like,
kind of sick and just doing, like,
these little bit parts.
He's huge in that movie, so it's a kind of...
Do you think he would, like,
work at a fruit stand out in the middle of the country?
How many apples do you need?
You know what?
That's too many apples.
No, yeah, you know, on the side,
I'm a knife sharpener.
I got a wheel and I just put it in the truck and I go around.
A side hustle.
Another piece of trivia about Lance Hendrickson on the set of aliens when he went to the UK to shoot it.
He was training himself to do that knife trick.
And like, he was like, oh shit.
I went to TSA and I have like 15 knives.
They almost didn't look at me in the UK.
The knife trick of like stabbing between your fingers.
You acted it out and people can't see.
Knife trick from aliens.
It's like a, you know, it's like a mafia.
You call it the mafia.
time killer. You know, when you're like some fucking
Coomba's waiting around the hideout, you know.
Oh, yeah. We do have one more to go and we can
actually talk about Pumpkin Head.
Round four, 1989
again. Okay. Game
Masters Clue. Well, this
movie sure as hell saw the last movie we were talking
about, this time taking that formula to a
deep sea mining operation of a
Russian freighter where an all-star cast
of character actors get picked off
one by one by a monster's carer.
I, Andrew Hupin? The abyss?
Incorrect.
Leviathan?
It is Leviathan.
And again, I think that
it can kind of go for both,
but Russian freighter is the one thing.
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I never saw it. Deep Star 6 is the other one I think.
Oh, yes, that's a good movie too.
That's pretty weird.
I've actually never seen Leviathan, but it's a awesome cast.
A lot of fun.
You got Peter Weller,
Richard Crenna, Hictor Elizondo I'm looking at.
Daniel Stern,
Ernie Hudson.
Oh, yeah, baby.
That's what you want to be.
And Meg Foster. Yeah, exactly.
Ooh, Meg Foster.
I love her gray eyes.
The monster kind of looks like the relic monster a little bit.
Pretty cool.
It's a standard, like, just give me all the underwater creepitude.
I will watch those movies.
Yeah, I really like creepy underwater shit.
What about creepy backwards holler shit?
I also love this.
And I'll tell you right now, I think Pumpkinhead is a movie that it's not like a major player
when you're like dealing out October recommendations.
I would argue
maybe it should be
Yeah
It's a cheap as fuck movie
They made it for like
$13 million or something
I think it was last
It was three
Oh three
Yeah
Take that 10 off there
But it's like
It's that great
Like it's economic filmmaking
Clearly Stan Winston
Like knew what he wanted
knew how to get it
Like from all reports
He was great as a director
Like everybody liked working with them
You know
I don't think this was a huge
Smash sensation
So that's like
No
maybe why one of his next huge things
was a Michael Jackson music video
and that's about it. Which one? Ghost?
I think is the name of the song.
I don't know that one. I was hoping for Captain E.O.
Remember the time.
This movie was released twice in theaters
because like De Laurentis went out of business
and sold the UA or United Artists
and then they put it out and they put it out again
and it did and they got four million I guess for it
all together at the domestic box off.
It's a money.
The problem is, the problem is, though, you released it under its original title,
which was a bit off-putting for audiences, I think, which is indeed Blumpkin.
And that was a real way.
You can't even put that in the newspaper listings.
They were trying to work with the title at one point called Vengeance the Demon.
Terrible title.
Haller Monster also.
And this is, is this the, it's great.
This is like a part of California they shot in that I guess has hollers.
A lot of hollers.
This is like a dusty,
Baker's Field
as piece of shit
it is
and like the red lighting
I'm like
oh so we're in
just in hell
yeah
we open on a farmhouse
it's 57
it's 1957
you could have said
1857
and I would have
believed you
honest to God
yeah
because this is
some real
no toilets
for 50 miles
kind of stuff
Buckflower
you know
40 years later
ain't living
much better
honestly
him and his
clan
it is like a
hillbilly
paradise, dude. Just this
like, we can live up here. There's
a crick for whatever water
we might need. Definitely not
flush in toilets. Well, later
the little kid Bunn takes them to the
the burntout church.
It's like, yeah, they tried to bring religion here
for a while. It didn't work out.
And I'm like, where are you? That's the thing, dude,
this little enclave of wherever
this is supposed to be USA, like
even God said
no. Yes. It's amazing.
The witch later has a line about
where pumpkin head is buried at a razor back graveyard holler or whatever.
Yes.
That sounds like it was written for Arkansas, but we filmed it in California.
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, that's a good call.
Yeah.
Or Ozarks in general, I guess.
There's a weird thing here that I don't know how many times you get to see it in opening
credits for a movie.
It just says, inspired by a poem by Ed Justin.
No, it wasn't.
Let me right over here.
No, it wasn't.
Whatever you, I don't know.
Well, the little like sing-songy thing that all the hillbilly kids tease the littlest hillbilly kid about, that is the lines from the poem.
Do you got the poem right here?
Would you like a dramatic reading?
Oh, please.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Keep away from pumpkinhead unless you're tired of living.
His enemies are mostly dead.
He's mean and unforgiving.
Laugh at him and you're undone.
But in some dreadful fashion, vengeance, he considers fun.
and it plans with a passion.
Time will not erase or blot
a plot he has been brewing.
It's when you think that
he's forgot that he'll conjure
your undoing. Bolted doors
and windows barred, guard dogs prowling
in the yard won't protect you
in your bed. Nothing will
from pumpkin head.
This is like saying Igby
goes down is an adaptation of catcher
in the rock. Also? No, no it's not.
stop. Also, Columbine
by Dave Collin. Well,
of course. Pumpkinette.
But this poem sounds like now
like, don't laugh at him, are right?
It sounds like we were maybe envisioning
a guy with a pumpkin for a head.
Which would be cool as fuck as well.
I want to see, apparently they're
rebooting this soon. No, is that right?
I believe so. Paramount is now mining
all the old IP. Yeah, get it all out there.
Jesus Christ.
Well, maybe it'll be like that secret
Pet Cemetery show that's happening
right now. Wait, why? It's a
Pet Cemetery movie. It's a movie, okay.
And it's like Pet Cemetery
Bloodlines or something. It's coming out. We're recording
this October the 4th in
two days. Oh, wow. You bet
you sweet ass I'll be watching that shit.
In the theater? No, no. I believe it's
Paramount Plus exclusive. But how stupid?
I mean, the Nun 2 is taking
America by storm. You're not going to put a horror
movie in the fucking theater? I know.
And I mean, the last
Pet Cemetery did so well in theater.
I don't know why they wouldn't
Well, but that was, to be fair, that was still
like the early days of like, are we going back to the movies?
That's a good point, but also if it did so bad,
why make another one?
I don't know, but as someone who saw that
Last Pet Cemetery in theaters, it was
righteously terrible.
It's really bad. You had, uh, what's his name?
Lithgow as like the Ed Gwynn character.
It's basically just the first movie kind of redone.
I think this is like a new story, but I'll
tell you what's selling this new one
for me and think of me what you
will. My man, Big D. Dave Dukovny is
one of the stars of the movie. I think
he might be maybe father of dead kid
or whatever. Oh, that's a good
I don't know, Scully.
Mittens lived a good life. Should we put her
back in the pet cemetery?
I saw Pam Greer in the trailers.
Oh, cool.
You're talking me into this movie. Now,
oh, now we're talking.
I like the opening credits like great
glowie credits. I also think
if you are one of my favorite bars
does this, if you're a bar,
this is a good bar movie. A good movie to be playing
on silent when people come in
during the holiday season. Yeah, sure.
I can see that. The horror season, you know,
oh, what is this? And then like a pumpkin head. Oh, it's pumpkin head. That's
Pumpkinhead right there. Because you can
like sort of slowly, with it on mute and like, you know,
a beer in each hand, you can slowly get tricked into watching it because you
like the start of this movie, like it is some of the saddest shit you will see
Oh, sure. And it's like, oh, what's that? Dead kids, I, whatever. But then you turn back. And then there's like a monster and you're like, but the kid was dead. Now there's this monster. What is this movie?
Yes. And it's pumpkin head. It is pumpkin. I do. Yes. I just, I love the huge red lighting from this farmhouse where there, I mean, there is no life. But apparently the evil has just consumed everything. Yes. And it's a farmer and his wife and his son. Baby Lance Henriksen. Baby Hendrickson.
Oh, baby Henrickson.
This dad looks a lot like Paul Bartel from eating Raoul and chopping ball and shit.
I've seen this guy before.
I forget, though.
He's in a ton of shit.
I don't remember his name right now, but he's in a ton of shit.
I looked him up because I thought it was Paul Bartel.
Outside, you were hearing the screams of the damned as they are about to meet pumpkin
at it.
And you hear one of them say, let you know, letting you know a little bit, I didn't hurt that
girl.
Yeah.
You got to let me in.
It wasn't me.
please. He's going to
kill me. I think
considering what Pumpkin Head has for
powers, he likely will throw me
against something. He will
scratch me. Lift me up high
and drop me from a distance
that will kill me if I fall on a rock.
I'm sorry, I am, but I can't
risk my family for you, Clayton.
Yeah. Clayton. First
of all, Pumpkin Head's powers, you're right,
not so supernatural. He's
basically a rancor just running around.
Right, but he's brought back to
life from some, you know, witch.
That's kind of something.
Made it haggis amazing.
The Scottish, oof. Right? Is that Scottish?
It's a Scottish dish, which I've had before. And you know what?
I think it gets a bad rap. I've had haggis. It was quite delicious, actually.
By the way, the guy playing this Clayton guy is Dick Warlock.
Oh, wow.
The shape from part two. And I guess he was like the stunt coordinator on this movie.
That makes a ton of sense. Amazing.
But he's the one begging for his life.
It's kind of cool. I mean, it's a cool.
opening and you know you see
the idea of imagining what Lance
Henriksen looked like as a child it's not this
no but you know what it is though
like that fish that crawled out of the water and got legs
no it's like if you saw a picture of Lance Hendrickson
I feel it's probably like
those old timey like
these people move to California
1910 it's just like
soulless scared children
yeah Benjamin Button children
yeah it's just a little more shrively than they should
But it's important
Ed, little Ed Harley
goes to the window
and sees pumpkin head
and his mother
to calm him down
gives him sick cigarettes
which sets him on his way
to become Lance Hendricks
Of course
Thank God they didn't send him
to bed without his supper
which is sick cigarettes
And here he goes sunny boy
Just smoke these
You'll relax
Now little Eddie
This is Scotch
Scotch whiskey
And you're just gonna want
take a nip of this
every night before you go to bed
You got to do it man
It's important to think
about your health
You got to smoke
you got a drink.
So I think Pumpkinhead
kind of just choke slams this guy.
Because when Lance,
like Lil Lance Hendrickson
looks out the window,
he's just holding this dude up
like he's the undertaker.
Yeah.
And I like also
that we reveal pumpkinhead
pretty early.
Not fucking around with it.
You know?
I mean,
it's a good design.
It's a weird design.
There's like,
well,
what's that bone do?
Like kind of stuff
going on with old pumpkin head here.
It is bizarre.
I think every time he's like done
with his mission,
right?
He's like folded back up
and put back in that tree trunk.
So like,
things are getting broken and misplaced and everything.
And maybe this is why they, you know,
thought maybe we'll market this as,
oh, it's a demon movie. That's a demon, you know,
because we do eventually find
pumpkin head is in a graveyard of sorts
in a pumpkin patch in a graveyard.
But, yeah,
he doesn't really resemble a human being.
No, no. And he has the demon tail
with the little thing at the end.
He does have an appointed tail, dude.
It's pretty great that tale.
And you know what else is pretty great?
This must have made you happy, dude.
no date when we jump to the present.
It's just the present.
I really, you know, it's
something else, right?
Oh, it's 2023.
But it's not.
It's 1988.
It is. I'd rather they just date it.
And I know they don't want to do that,
especially a movie like this that fell into
this turmoil of where are we releasing it.
When are we releasing it?
Right.
Why are they having all these problems?
Why aren't they just using their cell phone?
What the fuck?
Come on, guys.
What the hell?
Flip phones, at least.
Are they going to address COVID in this movie?
Oh, I think that's a match. Oh, no, no, no.
That's just paper.
Dude, you are introduced to Lance himself here as an adult.
Shirtless, using a flamethrower to like just burn grass.
And now that's living.
Oh, yes.
Time to mow the lawn.
Rock, rock solid abs on Henrikson, as always.
As advertised.
Stone cold abs.
And he is.
wearing these like hillbilly teeth in this movie
just to sort of funkify himself a little bit?
I mean, dude, you have to.
Yeah.
You can't be this kind of a guy and not have funkified jumpers.
Sure.
He's got to look like, you know, he's almost a zombie himself.
Because if he had good teeth, I'd be like, so he visited the witch already.
You got to fix these.
Yo, get pumpkin head to do some dental work on me.
Use your dark magic to make my jumpers look human.
All right.
I'm going to summon some floss for you here.
you know what also take 20 pounds off and give me a chisel dabs yeah oh i can't do that and holly
but if she could man i'd be going to witches all the time oh for sure like yeah fix this
sorry eric siska you already used your soul last christmas because you ain't too much yeah oh yeah
i did you were like oh haggis i don't want to be full and that's why i won't i won't
that pumpkin head kill that guy for looking at you with on the road the other day.
You know, it's really supposed to be pumpkinhead coming out for moider.
Maybe an assault or some kind, but not looking at you's cross.
I could have called Pumpkinhead the other day.
Oh, really?
Oh, my God.
The cross look, this guy gave me.
Where was this?
I was outside of a brewery, and I was parking the car.
And this guy in the parking lot almost hit me with.
his car and you like your body or ran into your car ran into my car and uh then he started like
driving around my car giving me dirty looks okay it's one of these guys you know one of the upstate
new york guys with a beard so they think they're strong oh sure yeah and he's got his fucking
kids in the car he's got like three shit eating kids it's the best time to freak out in public
exactly and then like he's like hey tough got and then i get out of the car i didn't i don't think
he expected me be as tall and big as i yeah
Yeah, yeah.
And then he left.
Oh, really?
Oh, he yelled, hey, tough guy.
Looked at you and then sped off.
Yeah, yeah.
That's amazing cowardice.
You're going to get pumpkin-headed.
From him?
Oh, yeah.
He's going to the witch holler type for sure.
Dude, do you think he's doing the McGruber?
He's just writing down your license plate repeatedly so he doesn't forget.
I hope so because if he tries to, I know he has children.
Henrietta,
Henrietta, stop crying.
I'm intimidating this man.
If parents hate him.
anything, it's their children going missing.
That's what I've heard.
Which will happen if you look at me.
Get into squash head, which is just you
with a squash. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'll squash his kids' heads too.
Interesting role here for Lance Hendrickson
loving father.
Yes. And stunningly,
like he does it well.
It's not a thing where it's like, I love
you so much and you're like, that's terrifying.
He's like, I love you, boy.
And like it actually works.
Genuine actor, this guy, the genuine
an article, Lance Henrickson. They're playing like
pranks on each other. He only had to do it for
10 minutes. So,
you know, no, we're not, we don't
got to talk about how your mother had
that accidental trip off
of the highway pass.
We don't got to talk about that.
He is widowed in this movie.
Yes. Well, do you do that was pumpkinhead
related or not pumpkin and related?
Oh, no, that was bumpkinhead.
Oh, I see. It was a sexual accident.
Okay, so she was giving him head on the toilet.
And then what? A clock fell off and hit her?
No, I think it was like she kind of, the water was wet.
She slipped back, hit her head on the back of the tub, you know?
Classic accident.
It's like final destination before all sucks.
And sadly, as she was dying, she had a vision of what the flux capacitor would be.
That's right.
But she didn't have time to write it at you.
She tried scrawling it.
But what came out was actually the design of this kid's cheap ass necklace that he makes,
Lance in this movie.
Here you go, Daddy. I made your present.
And like, again, this, I'm telling you guys, I'm telling you,
I would not be able to lie to my own child if they presented me with something like this.
look this shitty, it would just be a
polite, like, mm-hmm. Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's great.
No, how long can tell I can throw this out?
Spit in their face.
The kid, by the way, we should say it's like a
proto-Jonathan Limpnicki.
Yes, absolutely.
Like, legit eating these Coke bottle glasses.
Surprisingly, he has not
really morphed into an
actor, but he's like an adorable little
kid. Sure, yes. You can be. Which makes
it all like the more
sad when he's run down by.
this motorbike in t-minus seven minutes in this movie but yeah the screenwriter said they were
inspired by bava movies which i totally buy just like i don't know something about this group of
kids seems like they could be on the italian countryside going into like the wrong house well especially
because you have like joel uh the guy who played todd gack on seinfeld and like his lady friend
and they're like driving the european sports car oh hey fun boys we're going to go up to the pumpkin
and cabin. Also a desecrated, rotted out church
with things overgrowing it. You find that
in every goddamn one. We have cocktail and then play
motorbike. Oh no, I guess we'll just stay
at this dirty church. Oh, no. There's demons everywhere.
Oh, look at that witch. She's so disgusting, no.
Now, here's another band that sounds like Marotta.
Yeah. Oh.
The old witch is also definitely above a
staple. A lot of witches for it.
And that I actually think is the best stuff in the movie
when Lance Hendrickson is going to the witch's place
and the witch's place. Oh, yeah. That's my favorite stuff.
By the way, anyone notice who plays the guy that last
the whole time almost? Jeff East,
you'll know him as young Clark Kent from the Superman the Motion Picture
who was dubbed over by Christopher Reeve himself.
Oh, really? Oh, which powers. I couldn't even shave him.
This guy, he's a little too old for the rest of these kids.
you know what I mean like yeah because Superman's like what 79 that's like a decade yeah and he's just
kind of like and you see him he's like oh hey christie has it going and I'm like dude you are
looking like 30 something it's like they're all supposed to be like high school kids and like this
guy is like the college boyfriend yeah maybe or something like that but yeah so like whatever
this intro scene like you just get their home life you don't know right away like that he's a
We do see her tombstone later in the motion picture to confirm that.
But like, they live alone.
Jerry's still out on whether there's a toilet in this house.
I think we're hoping for it now.
You think of, no, yeah.
I think it's an outhouse situation.
There is a hole somewhere.
I don't know what's going around around it.
There might not be running water in the county is what we're saying.
It's possible.
Also be like a plastic bag.
They use like a bedpan.
Like, oh, I just went, Jr., here you go.
throw it in the crick
when you're done with it.
That's how you get a pumpkin head.
You keep slopping shit into a crick.
Something's going to rise.
And then go bathe in it and brush your teeth
in it. We don't waste shit in this house, boy.
We use it as much as we can.
And it's a weird, like, it's the middle of the day.
And he's like little kids like, hey, it's story time.
I was like, is it?
Because it seems to me like it might be 11.30 in the morning.
And it's like, oh, junior, well, there's once an old man that was sad,
but he had the best little boy in the world.
Oh, yeah.
Who never is going to die ever, ever.
No, no, it's not a bad ass.
It's about someone else.
Dude, he starts telling this story and you're just like, oh, this kid's doomed.
Yeah, exactly.
If you went into this movie not knowing anything about it,
you see this dude starting to tell this specific kind of story,
the clock is ticking on this little fucker.
And then the child took over the grocery store that nobody used.
and then he lived a long life of sleeping underneath the grocery store that nobody used.
This is a real like war movie.
When I get back, I'm going to marry my best girl and take over my dad's business.
We're going to have four kids.
No, five kids.
And it's like, no.
Well, they've got the sign when we see the general store here.
And it's, what is the name?
Harley and Son.
But it's like Harley, grocery or whatever.
And then in just like the most slapdash paint job.
and son crinkled on like the corner of it.
That's sweet. I have now decided since I have fathered a child, it's the and son grocery and
he will take it over. So this kid's like a six-year-old assistant manager.
That's right. Yeah. You put his name on the building. You don't have to deal with the government
and pay permits and kids work. Kids can just work if their names on the side of the building.
Now, the dust is going to reappear every 25 minutes. So you got to be prepared to take it off the
apples in the floor. This is like grapes
of wrath, oaky shit. It definitely is.
So you see like, yeah, they go to open
the store. Meanwhile, we're doing some
cross-cutting. All the youths are coming up.
And we got a van
full of most of them. And then
Todd Gack and his lady friend
driving the sports car and like, give me
a beer, hon. Dude, yeah, the road
soda right here. It's a little
early. I mean, it's a little bit
driving too. So
it's half past behind
the wheel. I'm
on vacation, babe. That's
a good point. And we also find out later
on, you know, it's an important part.
Todd had an accident a couple
of months ago where a girl was hurt
and he's on probation. Maybe
a Christy should be driving
first. Sure. Yep. And then
you can have, I mean, you shouldn't be, but you could have all the
beers you want. I mean, you're still breaking the law
but it's a little more tolerable. But you're
out in the middle of fucking no toilet
country man. Like it's not going to matter.
You know, you can sit there with your road so
And if anything, you pass by sheriff, whoever, you know, oh, put that shit down, put that shit down, put that shit down.
And you'll be fine.
No reason for you to be behind the wheel here, Todd, Gack, or Joel.
And since there's no bathrooms anywhere, you just piss out the window while you're driving.
Or like, you let your lady friend drive.
You're standing up, convertible mode on.
That's not a bathroom, and Holly, that's my house.
Could have fooled me.
I mean, that's-
Pissing on my living room right now.
And howdy?
Todd Gaggd strikes me as the kind of man
who wants a lady wants to drive a car.
He's like, well, we can't, we're not going to get there.
You're just going to be doing your makeup the whole time in the mirror.
Yeah, looking behind you like you should.
I want to get there sometime today.
And you're going to be getting lost and shit.
And then you're going to be driving soberly.
Do you know how fucking unexciting and slow that is?
The dynamics of the group are interesting because it's,
it's, uh, Joel and his goal.
girlfriend are in the sports car. He's drinking a beer. He's an asshole. Then there's Steve who's got a
headband who's Joel's brother. Yes. And his girlfriend, who's name I don't remember. She's the
religious one. Maggie. Maggie. That's right. And then there's, uh, is, I forget who Jeff East is
Clark Kent is. Chris, I think he's Chris. He is Chris. And he's got a girlfriend all his own. And
no one in this truck likes Joel. And like everyone is just like, so I guess there's a thing
like, oh, cool, so-and-so's got a cool cabin,
which is a very cool cabin.
You know, we should go there.
We'll have a great weekend.
We'll bring the dirt bikes up.
He's like, my, oh, awesome.
Sorry, my brother Joel's going to come.
Oh, fuck.
You told him, you told Joel.
You know, then it's trips off, man.
Trip has to be, I don't spend the weekend with this asshole.
You don't want someone, like, when you're on a trip,
you don't want someone to be commanding.
You don't want the one guy that's like, I'm the one, you know,
I'm the captain now.
Yeah, yeah.
The other lady friend there is Tracy.
played by Cynthia Bain.
Who survives?
Yeah, the final girl.
Sure.
Who's also, I think she might be
the lady friend in spontaneous combustion.
Oh, very nice.
Pretty good little movie there.
That's kind of a state tune.
They'll be fun to talk about.
I would like to talk about that movie.
I like when people blow up.
It's pretty interesting how they do it too.
We get a little like a little bit of a
nod to Texas chainsaw here.
There's a guy walking up the road and then
like a hitchhiker. And like I think Steve is like,
oh, that's the guy that
that gets people's feet off
but eats the eats it.
I heard a story about a guy who killed his
wife and he ate her body to hide it.
Like they had the foot.
They found the foot with a bunch of carrots
and a stew or whatever.
Foot stew.
This was the guy.
This was,
it's just,
you're just pointing at hillbillies going like,
he's a kill.
Yeah,
this is the murder.
And I mean,
here's the thing.
The way,
I mean,
like we've all,
you know,
we're all city folk.
We've all gone off the beat and past.
That's true.
You were.
a while. I was a hollerman
came down to learn your
big city ways. Because I kept
getting conned back upstate.
Well, that's what happens to you.
Cliff folk.
But you don't act
like this when you go off the beaten path.
You got to tighten it up.
When you get to your location,
then you can loosen up and have fun
and play pranks. Until you get
there, A, your fucking car
is, you might
get fucking Jack Nicholson did easy ride.
Oh, sure. Totally get pulled over for any reason. Any reason whatsoever. Then it's nothing but trouble.
Exactly. But the fuck up, guys. It's a great point because you, where are you going to get killed?
Here on the city street where there's thousands of people that could see it. That's the whole, the whole crime narrative doesn't make sense. If anything, you're going to be murdered in the suburbs or the country.
Sure. Yeah. Because by a pumpkin head. There's a ton of places to hide. Lots of vegetable heads. A bunch of different vegetable heads that could get you. And I don't want to hear that it's a not.
Texas chains on mask or unless this guy
gets in the car and stops
starts talking about like
how you how we sold groceries
the old way was the better way
now they use the air gun to sell
grocery we used to have the pad and the
pencil and we just used to do all the addition
on the thing you and your credit card
swipers man you don't know what it's like
you can just tap now you just tap the thing
self check out
I gotta say though
the other side of this Steve is like
From this guy telling his fucking gross foot stew story and all that shit.
Like, dude, are you trying to not get laid tonight?
Great point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keep begging her on.
Keep pissing her off.
Keep freaking her out.
That's going to be great for you getting blown later.
He's with the religious lady.
This might not be going well for him anyway.
That shit might have sailed already.
It's a real wasted time, wait till marriage kind of relationship.
He's maybe lucky if they're masturbating next to each other.
Yeah.
watching you watch each other mutual masto yeah well they're true crime fans guys
that's what they do it's it i mean i would be the first one to be like what your brother's
coming wait he's driving exactly what no you put him in this truck and then i'll take my car
i'll take my accurate i will drive drinking beer driving and having a loaded rifle in the car
sure oh yeah because what is the line like they're in this car and it's the the the beer can does
get cracked and then she's like, hey, babe, why do you have this huge gun back here?
And he's got some line about like, you never know when you're going to need to defend your
or some fucking dark shit stupid coward piece of shit lines.
I just saw Texas chainsaw a masker.
Ain't going to happen to me.
All right?
I tell you that much.
But then button up when you go to the, especially when you go to the stop off.
You're probably going to find out a couple things that can happen.
A, you're going to kill a kid.
Then you're going to get pumpkin headed.
Or someone's going to be like, oh, that, you're not going up to the old McGarry place.
That place been haunted for 25 years.
Yeah, exactly.
And then when they pull away, one hillbilly says the other one, like, gosh, he certainly was disrespectful, wasn't he?
Exactly.
And then you know those kids are fucked.
I love, they pull up to this grocery store.
It's like, we got to get some provisions.
The cabin's just a few more miles down the road.
And this guy, Joel, probably, you know, a combo of like the booze and he's a douchebag.
cannot wait till they get to the cabin
to start dirt biking.
He's like, no, babe, you got to get dirt bikes off the trailer
right now. I got a room, room. We got to do it. And like the
brother's like, hey man, we're almost there. No, no, no, no, no.
We're dirt biking right here.
Just to defend Todd Gack a little bit.
For reasons that elude me,
Harley and Sons Grocer is around
the most motorbikable area.
There are so many hills and little valleys
that you can jump off of and do your shit.
on like we're not supposed to motorbike
what are those ramps for all right
listen back in the day there used to be
a motocross couture that came
through town but then
they built the highway and all of a
sudden nobody was dirt biking in front
of the store anymore we should
say that Joel gets out of his
car immediately and like I think one of the girls
maybe it's a baggie's like oh cute
kids they see the little kid Billy Billy is the name
right I believe so
and Joel to a
fucking seven year old boy
I'm like, fuck, kids got Coke bottle glasses.
I'm like, all right, I guess once a bully, dot, dot, dot.
And it's kind of amazing because literally everyone else in this friend group turns and
it's just like, dude, what is your problem?
Exactly.
Why the fuck did I just, why am I spending my weekend with Joel?
Why on earth did I let this happen to me?
This is a brilliant pit stop because great, a great area to dirt bike in.
Sure.
Also, something for the ladies, a little poverty porn, a little poverty tourism bit there.
One of the girls is taking pictures of these hillbilly children, one of which, apparently, is the lady from old Sheldon, the television program.
Maim Bialik, Blossom herself.
Oh, really?
Jeopardy's own.
That's sort of kind of.
I've never seen anything she's been in, but yes.
She didn't watch Blossom?
No.
She's one of the Cletus clan?
She's one of the girls.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on, Jody, Blossom, Hubert, six.
Oh, six, hell yeah.
Absolutely.
She was the loose friend.
I don't know if she was loose.
I think of the later season.
I hope it started when they were 12.
There was a loose person on Blossom.
I don't like six was like Blossom's like hip fun friend.
Really?
No, is this where George got seven?
Seven.
I could picture because Blossom does exist in the world of Seinfeld.
George Costanza watching an episode of Blossom boy.
What was her last name?
Nine.
Oh, 7-8-9.
That's how that worked.
Ooh, I guess someone was hungry.
So while they're getting their provisions and whatever, yes, George Buckflower himself,
I think one of the only roles where he's not playing a homeless drunk.
True, but again, the requisite George Buckflower requirement,
he doesn't have indoor plumbing.
Whether he doesn't have a home or whether it's...
You can have a home, but there's no pipes in there.
Unless he's with the aliens, but also they also do.
don't have pipes, right?
But that guy was like homeless at the beginning of the movie.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. He's like the mayor or something.
But I imagine that aliens don't have plumbing either because they can just use some type of
magical technology to just transport your poo away. I mean, you're probably right, but I think
you probably are closer to the bag. Like the bag theory you had. The bag theory. I think that's the
buckflower household is using the feedback after they pour it out. Oh my God. I didn't.
A neighbor of mine used to shit in a bag
and throw it out in the garbage.
Her plumbing was fucked over.
Where was this?
Literally next door to me.
My condo complex.
Wow.
Yeah, but then one winter she fell and broke her hip
and you started smelling something
if she just wasn't her bag of shit.
She probably went to assisted living,
which if she was shitting in a bag,
she probably should have gone to years earlier.
That's where she went and then she expired,
I assume, a pillow over the head.
well you know
I assume
it's kind of funny that like
that lady shit in bags
and throwing them out
with the trash
for pickup and everything
the boomers in your
fucking HOA
didn't give her shit
but you like went outside
one time to like
get the mail
and quietly sneezed
and you're getting like letters
in the mail
the next day
you want to keep it down out there
yeah I was accused
of trespassing outside my front door
anyway
anyway I'm moving
so it's okay
we're happy we're happy
We keep saying provisions.
These teens stop off.
They're having a fun, flirty weekend.
What the fuck are they going to get at Harley's grocery?
Well, they're trying for beer.
They're trying for beer. That doesn't happen.
No liquor.
The Frito Lay Corporation hadn't come up this way in a long time.
No, no.
You're not getting any corn chips, any Doritas, anything.
Frito pie, what's that? NASA talk.
Oh, the Frito folk haven't been here since six to seven.
what's your say a prong a pringle what is that we got plenty of dust and dirt would you like
some of that young fella Frito lay driver Sipsay he's coming out here takes so long to get it
he's just used a bathroom we don't have no toilet so he stopped making delivery are we got a can
of green beans if you'd like it like that's what we're talking that's what we're dealing with
here when you're watching this kid help Lance like set up the shop or whatever he's like yeah
were hosing down all these vegetables.
It's like, get, get the, get the potatoes.
They're literally, I think, hosing the dust off of this produce.
To make their, to make their vegetable hag and I'm sorry, Lance Hendrickson, you run this
fucking dirt bag, you know, grocery store on the side of the road.
You got to have at least one freezer with some six packs.
You just do.
I don't care if you're drying out or whatever.
You can't be a roadside stand like this, like a general.
store and not have some banquet beer floating around. No, we don't got no beer, but we do
got hot, piping hot soda. Would you like some? I mean, this is one of those moments where
sold in three liter increments. Mr. Pepper. Yeah, it's not the doctor quite yet. He hasn't
gotten there quite yet. We're not fancy enough to have doctors. Not even pepper doctors. This is one of
those moments though where I genuinely thought about like technology shifted because like you really
did have to like the moment. If you were going on a trip like this,
the moment you saw a grocery store
that was like an actual one,
you had to, don't matter how far
you are from the fucking place.
Stop there because otherwise you are going to get
a Harley and Sun situation. You never know.
Where you're going to eat dust apples
and like fuck flowers of bags
of dust bits to eat.
We don't watch an ori.
What do you call an Oreo? What is that?
What's that doing? You're telling me
it's two cookies
with cream sandwiched
Between them?
That's the work of the devil.
Why would it be Chips O'Hoy?
Is there a pirate involved?
I know you like, you kids like to come out here at a country.
Have fun.
Have fun at my expense.
Try to tell me thing.
Tell me fake cookies that don't exist.
When I say, oh, that sounds good.
You laugh at me.
You laugh at me when you're driving off.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that guy believed what a Twix is.
What the fuck's a Twix.
Yeah, yeah.
You're telling me this Sarah Lee lady makes all those different kinds of cakes.
I'll be telling you.
much. I'm not a fan of puffs, cocoa, or otherwise.
Well, oh, yeah. So snacks. What do we have? Well, Mrs. McGarry comes every three weeks and leaves
four pies. Those go pretty quickly. That's kind of it for snacks. I take two of those.
Yeah. My son and I eat most of the pies, she drops off, you see. That's a snack. It's got in.
This is actually just kind of our refrigerator. People come in and buy some, because we have extra,
but mostly we just eat what's in the store
you could actually get some go to the
go down to the creek get some cold
some dried dirt put some cold water
on and have a
mud
you can you can drink mud
mud mud is kind of ice cream around these
parts no it's uh I know it's
a little confusion this mud slide is just mud
there's no alcohol
and it's just not a lick of collua to be found
extra wormy today
this is good mud
oh wow holy fuck I didn't even know
We still have a Fifth Avenue bar here, though.
There you go.
We do have Fifth Avenue bars here.
It's fossilized.
I wouldn't eat it, but if you buy it, it might be fun to look at it.
You could use it out as weapon at this point if you knocked somebody over the head with it.
It's like a blackjack right there.
So while they're like in there being told there's no beer for sale, Joel is just dirt biking to the extreme.
Oh, yeah.
Right away.
Buckflower pulls up with the kids.
And the kids are out teasing the littlest.
boy singing the poem
that Steve read us
in this like
Pumpkin Hey
yeah
and there's re-rhym sing song
crap yeah
and the kids getting freaked out
but it's kind of great
because Lance is like
peering out the window
yeah like he does
probably 18 hours out of the day
at the store and
hears them and is
triggered
the memory is triggered
of this dude just
getting chokeslam by pumpkin head
and he's like oh
that was a fun childhood
that night pumpkinhead came to visit that was great i remember living in hell when i was a kid
he's so warm all the time given though it was winter outside uh what's her face i think is it
the one that winds up uh certain the final girl is getting freaked out by the kids and what one
the lead kid bunt uh who was in silent night deadly night four or five it's five it's the one
with micky rooney the toy maker or whatever he's in that he plays pino he's the he's the
a dweeb in society.
Yes. Is that the one that's directed
by Monty Hellman?
What? Silent Night, Deadly Night
Four, I think, is directed by
Monty Helman. No, I think it's a, it might be
a Usenah situation. Oh, okay.
Oh, it could be a Yuzna movie.
Okay. I think Steve's on the case here.
Yeah, so the girl's getting freaked out
because the little boy's getting
visibly upset. And finally, she
just kind of snaps and is like,
stop, can't you see you're freaking
him out? And then like the other guy, Chris, is like,
baby just let him fuck with this kid
because we don't want to mess with these hill folk
apparently Yuzna had directed
the fourth Silent Night Deadly Night
Initiation
but he did write
Toymaker the Toymaker
It is a fucking crazy movie
It's a wild film
FYI those movies get really weird
really quickly
It's kind of like Hellraiser shit
Where it's just like
Why don't just slap Silent Night Deadly Night
Exactly
So do you think this kid
Bunt
Bunt. Named after baseball or cake. What do we think?
Great question. Yeah. Cake. Cake.
Yeah. Baseball ain't been out this way in 40 years.
We named him after the cake we had at the wedding. That was the only cake in the county for the last 25 years.
We sold half of it at the general store. No, we're still firmly a mud ball county.
We throw mud at each other and we try to hit it. We named him Bunt after the sweetest snack we know.
Holy snack, we know.
But cake.
Yeah, and he's like,
but he's like kind of flirting with this girl.
You can tell he's attracted to her.
Yeah, it's a little like, all right.
Yeah.
We'll stop fucking with him.
Whatever you say, baby.
He's like 16 probably.
Yeah.
I don't know how old he is.
He's probably playing 16.
Bunt, I would argue,
is the one from this litter.
Yes.
Uh, of pups here that would like possibly break out of the town.
You know what I mean?
He goes on his rum springer.
And never comes back.
I'm not saying like college education, but he just never comes back.
Yeah, he goes to bring him young.
He's the one who gets out.
Oh, God.
You know what?
Put him right back in.
How about that?
He might as well not go to college.
But Buckflower is like,
we're a feed and
Hendon's like,
oh, you know,
having such an idyllic morning with my son.
I plumb forgot to bring your feed.
And it's like,
he's like, give me 15.
And Buckflower.
Like he's got so much shit to do today
I meant to be back now
I'm like, do we what?
Pet in my pigs
Exactly what?
I gotta dig a new poophole
because the current poophole
Overflowing
And I'm out of bass
Cause somebody forgot the feed
But you're right though
He's like I'll be I just
It'll take me 15 minutes
To drive back to the house
And then I'll come
And it's like you're right
Like just wait
I don't know
go out and crank the engine of your car to start it up or whatever you got to do.
I mean, like, he's his only customer.
You can't count on these city folks.
So he's like, oh, I'll bring it by your house tonight.
He's like, be before doc and holly and kind of walk.
So I was like, all right, dude.
Like, you fucking chickens aren't going to starve unless you are feeding your children chicken feed.
Yeah.
That's why we call it feed because we eat it.
We add milk to it to make it tasty.
It's what you call cereal.
Oh, yeah, Nabisco don't come out this way, sweetheart.
We eat chicken feed in the mornings.
No, Captain Crunch better watch his feet.
He'd come up to my front door.
Captain Crunch, stolen valor.
He never went in the Navy.
The last Captain Crunch came through these parts
were fighting in the Civil War.
We had some woman bring over some Dracula cereal one time.
Oh, we burned her for being a witch.
He had Dracula cereals.
couldn't even believe it. The next
Hallows Eve, all the lady
driving up, she's got a mummy
cereal. She
pulled up to the drive. I had the shotgun
ready. I said, take your mummy cereal
and get out of here. You won't ruin this all
Hallows Eve. And then she brought me,
I thought this was a good thing. She brings
me a nice cereal
with a bunny, the bunny of Christ, like
I thought. And it turns out
he's a demonic bunny.
It turns out he's a tricky bunny.
tricks are for kids
no sir that tricks is for the devil
so Lance Hendrickson
very importantly drives off
while this kid is just
you got to be like hey
you're Lance Hendrickson you see what's going on
you're a scary dude
you have your little kid you're like hey
you're smart enough to be like stay inside
Billy keep the dog by the way we should say
a huge star is in this film oh absolutely
Lance Hendrickson
Lance Hendrickson is the biggest
star. The second biggest star is number two.
No. Mushroom the dog
play the gypsy from Gremlins.
That's true. Yes.
Huge roles. Great dog actor.
Not crazy about the name in this film.
Yeah. Gypsy. Yeah, that's
what it is. Not great.
But you stay inside with Gypsy.
But you, when you see these assholes
fucking around your backyard, you're like, hey,
beat it. And they'll fucking
scatter. They'll absolutely do it.
Shoot your guns in the air.
You know you want to.
Here's the other thing.
It is wishful thinking, Lance Hendrickson.
If you think you got to leave this kid at the store
case another customer comes by and you're going to miss a sale, uh, uh, uh, no one is swinging
by for the rest of the day.
You know it.
The dog knows it.
The kid knows it.
Close the store.
Put the kid in the car and don't leave this child to man your general store.
There's a chance Anton Sugar might be.
call it Billy
call it
he's going to call it the second man
oh yeah call the time of death
dude that's what we're calling this pumpkin
has been traveling all around
and now it's here
what do you mean you married
into it
don't put that pumpkin head in your pocket
he's a super demonic spirit of edges
that roused out of a pumpkin patch
but so what
So he goes off to get Buckflower's beloved chicken feed
Probably at the getting place, actually speaking of it.
That's exactly we've got to go to get it.
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But yeah, so he leaves the kids.
We're dirt biking.
Yes.
And dirt biking to the max, I would argue.
And they're going really hot wild.
And this little dog runs out because he's really rattled by the motorbiking.
And thank God I had seen this movie before.
It's like you think this dog's going to eat shit.
Oh, of course.
I would love both of them.
You know, it's like two little, you know, ramps that you can go over.
You go over the dog.
Whoa.
Then you go over the kid.
Oh, that's a speed bump kind of ass.
But da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Hey, haggis, they killed my kid and my dog.
Oh, good.
And Holly, now you've got pumpkin head and ruffles.
dog of pumpkin head.
It's just like a little, I don't know,
now I'm picturing like a boo-boo bear
kind of animal.
It's a dog walking on high,
I guess Brian from family guy.
It's a dog on its hind legs and it's evil.
But Steve is such a fucking whim
because Joel is like,
because he's like, come on man,
we're just right up the road.
Why don't we just wait?
And he's like, no, we're dirt biking now.
Steve's like, well, I guess I too shelter it bike.
Yep, no, no, no, no.
Let this dude ride off.
Yes.
Crash break his name.
because he's also wasted
so like let him go do whatever
leave your dirt bike mounted on the
trailer. Well I should listen
to you almost killed somebody
I guess that just kind of equals
out. Then he does kill somebody
so the kid runs out
after the dog and this is I got to tell
you some of the laziest shit it's the
Jesus freak lady
sees the kid run out after the dog
and she does a really half-ass
like no little
kid don't do that
And I'm like, it's a little child.
You're an adult with way longer legs.
Just go run and grab them.
Snatch that kid.
Yeah, yeah.
But, well, to be fair, she doesn't sound like Lance Henriksen,
so the boy might not recognize the tone.
I mean, this is something, you know, you have a thing about this.
You see any unsupervised child, you grab them.
You don't know what's going on.
Whether you're in a grocery store, that's right.
The movie theater.
That's right.
You just grab them.
It doesn't matter if they're crying and saying their mom's right over there.
You have to protect that child.
Make sure that the.
motorbike isn't going to get them.
If you see a child holding hands with a grown woman,
I don't know who that woman is.
I'm going to snatch that kid.
I don't know.
It's a pedophile.
They probably are 99% of people are pedophiles.
That's actually true.
And 99% of children are in an underground network being traded off like fucking trading
cards.
There's a little chalk mark up on his shoulder.
That's definitely, that's a kid that was taken right there.
That couldn't just be from school and something happened.
No, no, no, no.
They're shifting those kids around like,
Sandberg rookie cards.
I gotta say, in a way
I admire those people
in the following sense.
Brain damaged? No.
I'm doing that to myself just fine.
No, but like to have
so little
going on. Yeah. It's true. Like just
it's true. An open day
just free blank a shit
calendar to follow
people around the grocery store
accusing them of kidnapping their own children
to have that empty.
of a schedule. That nothing
of responsibility at all.
Oh, blissful. Blissful.
Oh, yeah. You know, if you
can't solve a problem, create one.
That's exactly right. Be the problem
you want to see in the world. Thank you. Yes.
And then you'll prove your point that there are people trying
to abduct children. But this kid gets
clobbered. It's not
good. It's not.
Okay, yes, the body doesn't
explode. Did you want a dummy, dude?
You want a blood spray?
I want a dummy too.
No blood for the kid
But just like I want to see this thing
Get like knocked back a little bit
You want to see like a close up shot of the dummy
The second wheel hits it
He realized what's happening
He starts to break right on the body
That's what you want
No no
What if?
So the dirt bike kind of you know
Because he does sort of just like
Brush the kid or whatever he falls down
What if they left that all in
But then Stan Winston was like
We got to appease Steve Seda
We gotta make sure this kid really gets it
They add in a sound effect.
It's just squaw.
Yeah.
You would have been nice.
It's like you do a quick shot
of those glasses going to fly in the air.
Oh, that's what it is.
That'd be Zach Snyder's pumpkin.
Slow motion glasses flying through the air for four minutes.
A little lightning bolt in the background just for show.
It's a storm of ruin.
People, they ain't no good.
The game's going while it happens.
So this kid's pretty much dead.
He's real dang.
up here. He does get a final word in
a few minutes but in classic
drunk coward fashion this dude's
like this dude Joel's like oh
fuck and he starts wheeling
this fucking motorcycle back
to the trailer. This is a crazy freak out
because then the girlfriend is like
what do you do and we can't just let he fucking
throws this girl to the girl like get the fucking car
and like basically Steve
who also by the way almost hit the kid he's like
it was an accident I almost hit the kid
he came out of nowhere you know like
and I almost finished the job
And whatever, but they're all staying with the kid.
But then like the other three are like, we'll go go find help.
We'll go, we'll find a phone.
You know, we'll go to the cabin and use the phone to get the cops down here.
Joel says to this girlfriend, he goes, I've been drinking.
They'll fry me.
Look, to do.
I actually agree with Joel.
I kind of do too, yeah.
But here's the thing.
You cannot be going to your friend's little hideaway.
you have to get into the car and go far, far away.
Not home. Go any, like, you are going, they're going to find you.
Like, eventually they will.
Steve does have that line about like, let's just go to Mexico at some point.
Or the other idea is, I'll just take the rap.
How bad could prison be?
Dude, that is one point later in this movie where like, you know, the chips are down.
And he's like, all right, how about this is a solution?
I've never had a charge brought against me.
I'll say I kill the kid.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I love my brother like a brother.
But man, if this happened, I'd be like, you know, oh, man, I'll write you every week.
I will write you one letter every week out of this one, dude.
Because, like, what is in it for you?
I guess you, the character.
It's not, because it's not, like, points on your license.
This is murder.
You know what I mean?
Baby murder.
But I think maybe his idea is like, well, you could maybe, like, get it down to a manslaughter charge.
Sure.
It was an accident, and the character Steve was not drinking.
Yeah.
So I think maybe that's the logic.
But even still, I'm not going to roll that dice.
It's very big dice to be right.
No, no.
If anything, you know, you let your brother take the rap.
You know, you let Todd Gack go to prison jail.
And if you're really torn up about it, you put a file in a pie, right?
Oh, yes.
Right?
Classic.
Yeah.
So they could just chisel his way, chisel one bar out.
And then boom, he suddenly.
I look the logic there, right?
But also, you got to look around.
This is a, I don't even think this is going to trial.
This is Hill law.
They'll hang you by dawn, dude.
It's country justice, man.
They're going to take you to the witch.
You're going to be before the board of Haggis.
You're not even getting a rock hammer and a Rita Hayworth poster.
That's not happening.
You're not getting that far.
No, not country justice might be better.
Sure.
Then you're quicker.
Big city justice where you're in that, you know, you're in the big house because you're
in the big city and it's all, you know, all these people.
wouldn't you rather just get your skull bashed in
the country side
you get to see a good view
30 years yeah just fucking crush my skull dude
yeah fuck that 30 years shit 30 years of that
no thanks yes
hang me in the town square
yeah I would also take the bash in the back of that
either one rich as long as it was a good one
I need a good hand you clip that for me
to hang me in the towns I just want to use it
oh sure
get that on the old sound board
oh yeah then you eat a bunch of Taco Bell
is your last man
Oh, yeah, dude.
Start working to the party.
But
let Hendrickson comes back.
Steve is really holding the bag
here.
Yeah.
Because it's like, hi.
Is this yours?
I had just found him this way.
He's just crumpled up in the
in the field.
The fucking worst part.
It's so bad.
And like, I don't know if he's thinking
like this will make it better.
What he's like, here's his glasses.
Like, oh, he ain't going to be.
them no more. He's got no eyes left.
Yeah. And he just
Hedrickson's like, oh my God.
He grabs them and he starts walking away.
He's like, can I help? And he gives
him the look. Yep. Who?
Lance Hedroxen did give me this look.
I would turn to stone. I'd hang myself
in the town square. I'm not going to wait for these
hillbillies to dish out that
justice. Steve character says as much.
I told him it was an accident and he
looked at me like he wanted to kill me.
Of course he did. He killed his son.
but so he takes the kid back.
I mean, also, you know, we should wait for an ambulance.
He is just jostling this.
I mean, like, I think it's...
Where is an ambulance?
Yeah, that's true.
They don't exist out there.
That's the thing.
Like, some parts of the country, man,
when you're, like, way remote and whatnot,
like, you fucking get a really bad paper cut.
Just start digging your own grave.
Like, if you can't stop bleeding or something,
you're totally screwed.
I mean, I don't even know if that this is that area,
but they certainly want you to believe,
it's back in the area. Right. So his only recourse is to go to this shit farm where they farm
shit and be like, I'm looking for your, your, your, your papa. Yeah. Looking for buck flower.
I need to rub my child on your magic pig to get him to live again. He brings him home. He washes
him and like, in a touching scene, Billy goes, Daddy. And he's like, yes boy. And he's dead.
Yep. He dies. Meanwhile, we are at the cabin. This cabin, by the way, do you recognize?
this? I didn't, but I heard the
trivia. What perfect timing. This
is the cabin from Friday the 13th, Part
4. Really? This is where
the Fel-Dogs family. Oh,
very nice. Yeah, yeah, which
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for tickets. Um,
so we're at this cabin. And this dude,
Joel, again, just
digging this whole deeper for himself at this point. He's ripping the phone out of the wall
and like, you're not going to be calling anybody. And these people are like, dude, what are you
doing? Well, I was glad because Jeff East here, you know, if you're famous for playing Clark
Kent before he becomes Superman, you're playing nerds. You know what I mean? And like earlier on
when I think the kids are taunting the other kid for Pumpkin Head, the girl steps in and she's like,
stop it. And then he goes up to her. He's like, yeah, I was just about to do that.
But then like, Joel hits his girlfriend. I'm like, come on. Come on, dude. What are we doing here?
Yeah. He does step up and punch him in the face. I was just about to do that. Hit your girlfriend.
Good job. Just to help you because I'm so worried about you. You know it's out of character too.
Because even Joel is like, whoa, wait. Chris, did you just punch me in the face? Yes. That's incredible.
But whoops, he's got a shotgun. And that's kind of the end of the game.
You know what we don't see?
And, like, I feel like it's such a bizarre move.
You need to see it go down and not just the aftermath.
He locks these two people in a closet, which is great.
At gunpoint.
And, like, you only learn that, like, it cuts back.
And they're just in this closet.
And they're like, when we get out of here, that Joel is so dead.
I was like, no, no, no, no.
I need to see him, like, ushering these people in a gun point.
Because here's the thing is, like, I mean, like, I don't know.
Who among your friends who, if they pulled a gun on you, would you believe would
use it. Anyone in this room, I would
be like, fuck off. And I'd be like
do it, dude. You'd do it
tough guy. There's a couple folks I know
that I'm like, oh, that dude would pull the trigger. Oh, yeah, people
not in this room that I do know. They pull a gun
like, all right, what do you want? What needs to happen?
All right, I'm going to have to stiffen up my demeanor.
Yes. You want people to believe you.
I want people to know that I mean business.
Sure. Yes. I'm very
worried about you in shotguns. Yeah.
I mean, Gack, the problem
here is like, you
If you weren't going to get hung by the town court anyway,
you are doing all the things to ensure you are going to die in a terrible way.
Like at this point, I would be, if I was him,
I'd be looking for pumpkinhead.
Like, take me out.
Whatever is coming for me is not going to be good.
This is not ending well for me.
You will die.
You're terrible, terrible death.
What are you going to do?
Throw me around and slash me with one of your fingernails.
Like, okay, kill me.
Um, yes, but he goes to Buckflower and he's like, you know, I need, I need help, but I need to know where the witch is. And he's like, that lady can't bring your boy back. All she could do is send you to hell. You go on home now. You bury your boy. Yeah.
good advice probably next year outhouse whatever you got going on there we just use holes in
I mean chances are look around you I mean that kid wasn't going to make it to 20 I mean like
that kid gets dip we still got dip theory out here a few good lines in this seat is is Lance
Hendrickson I'm looking for the old woman with powers yes and then the buckflowers like
asked what killed them city folks yeah city folks that was the key to it all for buck
flower. And you, I love that buck flower is like, palettes and it comes up. He's like, I need to know
with the old lady with powers. He's like, what are you mean about a holler witch? Why would you think
I buckflower looking the way I do with my magic pigs would ever know about a holler witch? And it turns
out he knows quite a lot about the holler witch. So does Bunt. And Bunt is who it's also funny
Buckflower being like, here's that $10, I owe you, like over the feed.
Yeah, yes.
Because at first he doesn't want to take it because he's like, hey, listen, let me give me that
Hollerwitch.
Exactly.
We'll call it even.
You're going to have a funeral to pay for.
You'd give, take back your $10.
That'd be great at the general store.
It's like feed for $10 or Hollerwitch, Hollerwich information.
Who asked about our Hollerwitch?
I haven't seen the Hollerwich.
Last time I saw, she was at the get in place.
buying caldrons.
Well, I live at the getting place now.
She's not there.
But, yes,
the disgusting shit boy is like,
I'll tell you where that Hallowich is for them $10.
Uh-huh.
And it's like,
I know where she is,
but I don't want to go there.
Just get in,
boy,
you're going to show me where it is.
And he's like,
all right,
you drive me halfway.
That old lady scares the shit out of me.
I always love this stuff in like horror movies,
whatever.
It's like,
this is as far as I go.
Oh, yeah.
As far back as Dracula, dude.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
It's starting to get really foggy out here.
I got to walk back.
We should say, I think that again, Stan Winston,
the atmosphere here is great.
It is.
It builds real atmosphere to Chris Cabin's point.
Real light hitting things.
It's a lot of outside.
I'm sure there's a lot of sound stages too,
but like there is a lot of outside stuff
that feels like it's outside.
And when we're driving up to the Black Ridge
where Haggis, the Witch, lives,
it does look foreboding.
You got this sense of dread a little bit here.
The outside shooting filming technique
I will never fault ever
is when you want to make a forest look creepy
you have your shot set up
and way far back
you just have a massive floodlight
just beaming down
it doesn't matter if it's supposed to be
the moon or not
that shit cutting through trees
and everything always looks cool
and this movie has that up and down
it's really awesome
it's really fun to look at
I very much enjoyed the new season
of Justified they put out
but I need railing Gibbons versus
Hollerwitch.
Take a supernatural turn.
Raylan Givens is supernatural
because he can keep this job for so long.
I don't know how he hasn't been fired yet.
He's a middle-aged white guy.
Sure, there you go.
Well, that's close to which is power.
Chris, but most of those shootings
were justified, weren't they?
You should say that, Stevens.
By the way, I'm glad you liked that.
Hell, yeah, in that city primeval.
It fucking rocked.
A few episodes left haven't finished yet.
It's fun as hell. Also, great design on this, like, the Holler Witch hideout here.
This is straight out of a Jim Henson nightmare, this fucking thing.
It's so well done.
Like, you take one look at it.
You know it's disgusting.
You can smell it through your television.
Like really well made crap factory.
Then when the Holler Witch has a goblet next to tarantulas.
There's an owl in your house.
Yeah.
Well, she went to, that's just lets you know she went to Hogwarts.
Oh, that's true.
Hogwarts Pride and Holly
Who's in your house?
I studied at American Hogwarts
Lance Henriksen you were there too
Yeah that's right
I went to American Hogwarts
What bathroom you use
That's something I care deeply about
Yeah American Hogwarts also has Jeff Dunham
Those puppets come to life
That's true that's true
Oh you want you want
What was the pepper one called?
I don't know
I actually don't say it
said you are something
something that I don't want to repeat
Yeah yeah yeah
Oh he comes to laugh
Do the right spell
Oh yeah you do right smile
He's teaching classes
At American Hogwarts
He's awfully spicy
But you know
She's like oh hello
Ed Harley
She knows that he's there
And she knows
What he wants to
Before he says anything
Before she sees him
She's just like
He ain't gonna be able
to help you didn't the crazy fat fucker down to the bottom of the hill tell you that already men only want one thing and it's disgusting it's pumpkin heads digging a pumpkin patch he gives her a bunch of silver dollars that he has weird uh detail about those silver dollars so this was like we said three million dollar budget Lance Henrickson bringing all his clothes from home but also like he traveled around to like thrift stores or whatever finding these silver dollars like stand him on it.
I run on page 58 about those silver dollars.
Don't worry about it.
I got a great silver dollar guy.
But it's a weird, like, the way that it's written in the trivia,
and I guess this is just because it's the IMDB and it's awful.
But like, it makes you, if you haven't seen the movie,
it makes you think like, wow, these silver dollars must be awfully important
to the story for him to do that.
Literally one shot of these silver dollars getting put in a cup.
Whoopty do.
You think they'd come back in some way silver being against werewolves or whatever.
It shows that like Henriksen was really good.
game for this movie, which is clear because he's really
I mean, A, like how often is it
Lance Henrick's it above the title? Is it,
you know what I mean? Does he get to be a sense of dad?
Man's best friend. Millennium.
That's probably it. That hellraiser
movie, maybe. Oh, no. I think Doug Bradley's probably still
getting the top slot in the air. Although,
speaking of which though, holy shit. So there are
at least, to my knowledge, for pumpkin head movies.
Okay, yes. Two of them are television
movies. Right. And so,
the three and four
have Lance Hendrickson
as the ghost of it.
Holy shit.
Yeah, I was like, do I watch
these? Kane Hodder is in the second
I watched this morning, which is amazing.
Oh, is it? I was considering watching it.
They completely changed the origin store.
They literally turned pumpkinhead into Jason.
Okay. He was killed by a bunch of like greaser boys.
What? He was like a mask child.
and mask like that share
the share movie
like he's deformed I guess
so that's why a skeleton's weird is what we're saying
and there well like all the greasers are like
go back to hell you monster
and then it turns out that
he turns into pumpkin head
you see what rock and roll music does
here's the one question I have for about the second movie
the second movie is called Pumpkinhead
colon blood wings
does he have wings is he flying no
fuck off I think he's trying to get
the idea is he's going to get wings
if he gets
he has to kill all the greasers
essentially who are all older people
I gotta get your blood rings
Kairn. Every time a bell
rings and pumpkin head got his wings
Red Bull gives you blood wings.
It is essentially that
like he thinks it's going to happen. I forgot why
I brought up those sequels. There was
something in there. There was the second one
there was the third and the fourth one. And
Doug Bradley is in one of them. That's
that's thank you. I think of the third one
Doug Bradley's farting around in there in some way.
to Lance Sandringson despises those two movies.
He called them alimony gigs.
Oh, God.
That kind of shit.
There's alimony gigs.
There's a story.
I don't know.
It was Wikipedia, Imb, whatever.
There's a screening of this third movie.
You better believe they probably rented the fucking theater for this.
It wasn't an invitation to screen this movie.
The same theater they did American movie.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Hey, Uncle Bill, man.
There's another movie.
I want to put the theater.
Fucking Pumpkin at three.
But so the director comes up and they're like going to do a Q&A and he's like,
and let's bring out the guy who started it all, Lance Hendrick's in.
And he left.
Oh, no.
He's fucking left.
I love that.
A lot of bar of breads better go across the street.
And then he goes and visits his kids like, yeah, here's, yeah, this will get you through.
It's pumpkinhead two.
I mean, pumpkin head three.
He's not even in the second one.
The main star is the Scorpio Killer from Dirty Harris.
Andrew Robinson.
Andrew Robinson
from Star Trek
Deep Space Nine
and from Hellraiser
as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh shit, that's right.
Yeah.
It's all in the family.
So he goes...
Speaking of these hillbilly kids.
She says to him.
Yeah, they're probably in breath.
She's like, I can't bring your boy back in Hollywood.
And he's like, okay.
But I've heard you aid in vengeance
and set things right.
She's like, I can, but at a terrible price.
And he just, he's game immediately.
In all of these, like, when you're dealing,
with the witch when you're dealing with the devil
and if they're like, oh, it'll cost
you big. I'm like, all right, tell
me what it is. What is that price?
And maybe they'll, maybe they'll be
elliptical even more, but at least I ask
the question. You know what I mean? Like, no, you did
your past. Barking with these people. Yeah, yeah.
You're probably, you're probably going to
hell. I think that's the big sell.
Yeah, well, yeah, for sure. There is a hell.
Your soul is damned. But tell me that
old witch. It was fucking damned anyway,
right? Like, now you know, for sure
like, now like, now like, they're like, look, there
is a hell, you're going there, and eternity is actually eternity.
So you can get vengeance and go to hell, or you can just go to hell.
That's your choice.
Yeah, actually, I mean.
Oh, Ed Harley, I don't specialize in bringing people back from the dead.
We'd be sued to Kingdom Club if I could do that.
Just a little too close to the pit cemetery.
But she's like, all right, Ed Harley, you got to go to Razor back holler
where they're buried people
where buried kin they was ashamed of
and he's like
another time you want to ask a follow-up question
because he's she's like
you go you get a shovel and you dig it up
and he's like dig what up
you'll know when you see
no I won't lady I will not
that would be funny a scene just like
every grave is open and he's what the fuck
or he keeps going back with the wrong skeleton
he's like that's still not in it
no that's uncle jesse who was caught making with the pigs they had to bury him alive
all right all right just raise the pig fucker i guess and have him do the vengeance lady at some point
you got to tell me where i need to dig it's been all fucking when you see i've been it's i've been
up and down this hill all fucking night clean the shit out your eyes and holly but it's like next
to the graveyard it's sort of like this little tower
It's like a big tree stump.
If that situation happened, I would just imagine the witch trudging over there.
The big fucking thing.
What did you think?
Here it is, you jackass.
Guess I had to spell that for you in Harley.
What else is remarkable about this play?
But to be fair, when he gets there, there's an open, honest, you're going to skill to just hang around.
I would bring that back.
And I would be like, is this we're talking about this?
That's the obvious one.
You actually thought it was going to be that.
that is that was hanging from a grapevine.
I told you to bring a shovel.
Oh, no, Ed Harley, yeah, you were grabbing things that were remarkable.
That's a can of monster energy drink that's been hucked from the highway.
I can't do much with that, Ed Harley.
Then he can just have the kids drink it, drink enough of it.
True.
They'll kill you eventually.
No, that's Hans Cecilia.
She died from eating tinfoil.
she just did it every day
and eventually
poop
the pica got her
at Holly
there is a moment
it's a really great
Henriksen moment
where he's like
starting to dig it up
and like
he kind of feels around
and gets like freaked out
like falls off the tree stuff
and he takes this moment
where he's like
all right
all right Ed
are you really going to get
into this paranormal shit
you could just go back
barrier but nope
no it's the point of no return
all right get back up there
Well, are you? Okay, you're going to take a pumpkin too, aren't you?
Yeah, just a pumpkin. You can roast it up later for some food.
It's in a pumpkin patch. It's on a towery thing. That's what heads to pumpkin head.
Yeah. I will say, great decision by everyone involved to not have this be a monster with a little pumpkin for a head.
Oh, yeah. I don't know. I would no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it would be fucking stupid.
I think this different movie. It would send it a ginger dead man.
and Jack Frost kind of
I think I could have balanced this
I could have directed it and it would have worked
Sure, yeah
That's usually the answer
How would you make it not fucking stupid?
Like the opening of Halloween too
You know, eventually
you can bash the pumpkin heads head in
And there's a skull in there and then it's a
Skellington for the third act.
I like it.
Boom! I'm kind of into it
I mean, it would be a different movie
It would be dumb, it'd be dumb
But what is this?
Yes.
Because he turns it, I mean, he brings it back.
And then she's like, I need your blood at Holly.
It's a really great, like, he gets his hand cut.
And like, I don't know if it's like the spell kicking in or what,
but I love woozy Lance Henrickson at this part.
Right.
Oh, my, what the.
Oh, we need a toilet.
What's that?
Look where you are in Harley.
God, no put no toilet here.
Everywhere is a toilet.
wallet here and holly the hose outside the bag is in the bag oh yes take your choice use my mouse
oh yeah that's the third choice that will also summon pumpkin head i don't often get visitors
head uh but she you know she does she takes some blood from the corpse of the child also and she
says now go bury your boy you'll know it what it's all coming happening
It's going to happen.
Trust me, it'll happen.
When you feel like you're about to shit yourself.
That's one of the souls of the evil ones going up into the sky.
It's cool watching Pumpkin Head kind of come to life.
Yeah, totally.
Because, like, as he is, he is like this little compacted skeleton.
He looks like one of the pilots from Alien.
He looks like a racerhead baby a little bit too.
I would think he's an alien if I was one of these kids.
Because the way it looks is so crazy
And this weird noise it emits
You know, it seems
It's otherworldly on purpose
But it seems UFO
To me
From my experience with aliens
Well, I think
I can say
What we're getting at those
Had this been a more successful franchise
Right
You're getting pumpkin head in space
Oh no at some point
It turns out
He's from a race of pumpkin head people
Right like
Okay so people are like
Get revenge for the challenges
Hollow witch my boy was murdered by an astronaut
Can we get a pumpkin head
On board the space mission
I can help you revenge your boy
But it'll cost you zip thorn axe
You an alien or something
A shock is going to cover something to
All your Star Wars friend
Pumpkinhead's gonna get all
little Star Wars friends.
You better watch
how Ewarks, Porkin' Head
eats you like potato chips.
Isn't one of them just named Ethan?
Yeah, he'll get him too.
So there is
a quick second. There is a
Pet Cemetery fake out here. Oh, sure.
Yeah. Because he's driving along. And then the kid
just sits up and is like, Daddy, what did you do?
And like, thankfully, it's just a dream sequence. I was like,
whof, that kid's still dead.
Excellent. And Lenz Hendrickson does what I would have done, I don't know, four hours ago, starts hitting the sauce. I mean, like, this is a little too late. The day here after the day you had that. And maybe if he hit the sauce earlier, he wouldn't have went to the witch. You know what I mean? That's pretty true. Yeah. He's sleeping it off somewhere. Coulda should have would, dude. But I was going to start drinking. Not you don't go to the hollow witch. You go to the holler dealer. Where is he? Where is this magical fellow? Also, while he's hitting this sauce, I think is also,
when he's talking to his
dead wife's tombstone.
He's like,
they killed our boy, Lily,
or whatever her name is here.
And you see like she died like
sometime in the 70s,
which actually makes me think
if this is 88,
it was like 78 or something
that she died.
Possibly it died in childbirth situation.
Because again,
love that.
Holler folk.
Yeah,
you're really rolling the dice.
It's a real one and two scenario.
There's no planned parenthood there.
And so obviously like there's no
schoolhouse around
whatever. You can assume this kid. There's no school in the year. He's probably not going to school.
But like, Lance is burying this boy in the family cemetery with no kind of like procedural.
Like you got to, you got to tell somebody that this happened. He probably had no birth certificate, no social security number. Yeah. This is, if ever there was a man who knew that time was going to forget him, Ed Harley knew. Ed Harley was ready for this. And I do, I would get to this fucking grave.
And I'm like, well, Cynthia, I took the dust that the holler wizard gave me.
I'm feeling right fine right now.
I feel the deaths in my heart every time they die.
So I guess it's okay that I kind of, I got a kid killed for feed.
It was my mistake.
I'm sorry.
Lynn, I'm burying our off the book son.
Dude, I mean, the census man got ran out of town long, long ways.
You just keep right on going.
in Mr. Government.
See, that's what you got to do.
You got to move to the country.
Start having kids, giving birth in your house.
You got to move to the country, dude, and
eat a lot of peaches.
Yeah, of course.
Even though they were put there by a man in a factory downtown.
Yes.
Indeed.
But, yes, you've got to do that because then you could kind of raise an army,
an unlisted army.
You get like 10 young sons.
You bash the girls' heads in, obviously.
You get those 10 young sons.
you raise them up to know the rifles
they're completely unlisted
no one can ever trace them to anything
no fingerprints this is the story
burn them off this is the plot of under the banner
of heaven by the way is it really
I've seen it pretty close
I've been fixing to do some of that
under the bantering
all the Andrew Garfield
show there's great show it's about the
holler folk being bred
Mormon Mormon homer
Mormon and in a holler
oh yeah
shiver up my
fucking spying. Good luck
detective.
So
the Maggie there
the Jesus freak is losing
her shit and this is really
hilarious because she's like
losing her shit's kind of maybe
extreme because she is kind of like doing the comatose
like I saw a scary thing
and now I'm just like buttoned up the whole time
this dude
running outside with like her
she's got a little like crucifix necklace
and he's just like you see this you like this right
this does something for you right here
just look at it feel better
look at Jesus and feel better
like jingling cats in front of a cat
exactly what it is
you love the Lord right
you're a stupid piece of shit right
it's the opiate of the mass
oh wait I'm dying
yeah this dude yeah she gets called out
and Steve runs after her
and he's the first to run afoul of the pumpkin head
you see I love a good
just like someone's getting picked up
out of frame in a movie.
That's something, because I would love to,
you can't do this probably because
the technology's not there.
The pumpkin head is a
class A fucking tree climber.
Yes. And you look at these feet.
That doesn't seem like someone who could get
up on a tree for me.
But every, like half the deaths, he's
reaching down from a tree and ripping them up
into the branch. It's predator-esque.
It is predator-esque. But if he was part pumpkin,
You could have like vines and shit
that are pulling them around. Oh, yeah.
A little Spider-Many thing in there.
You're reminding me of something.
Have you ever seen over the garden wall?
What is that?
What is that?
It's an amazing.
Here's the thing.
Here's the stipulation.
I know the answer.
I know.
I know.
But like, is the answer, no.
I haven't seen it.
No, I know you haven't seen it.
It's an animated thing.
But it's eerie as fuck.
And the music's really cool.
I think you don't like it.
What country is it from?
The United States of America.
Really?
Yes.
Interesting.
But part of it is like, I watch it like every year around this time.
Like part of it is you're getting pumpkin people, dude.
And they're like, you're at the big pumpkin ball.
And this is freaky as fuck.
I like that.
So how does Steve get it here?
He gets lifted up.
He gets lifted up.
He gets slammed on the floor kind of a thing.
I think it's like them all.
Yeah.
It's a choke slam.
Yeah.
It's a pumpkin head finishing move.
My God, Steve is dead.
Oh, pumpkin head off the top, bro.
But through the table, pumpkin.
head. That's just brutal.
This is where Maggie, the Christian girl, like, runs inside and starts praying because she saw
the devil.
Sure.
She has grabbed hair first by pumpkin head, though, like, sort of runs back out, I think.
And you see, like, she's just being dragged by a, not a hoof, but like a claw hand,
like pulling her hair or whatever.
And Pumpkinhead, for some reason, he's got some beef with the Catholic Church.
I don't know what it is.
Oh, yeah, he really goes to town.
He's like, oh, Christian.
He doesn't say anything, but it's like, oh, Christian girl.
and he puts a cross on her head before he kills her.
Nice.
It's pretty righteous.
Unbelievers who are not converted to pumpkinism.
That's true.
I mean,
they have to go.
Do you think we should get pumpkin head vision to this movie?
It's all orange.
Oh, I would love that, actually.
It would be really cool.
I mean, he's just a big, he's a big, he's a big hair.
It looks like one of the middle phases of the werewolf in, in, in American, American
Well, yeah, but before he transforms, before he gets hairy.
A little bit like when like an Evil Dead 2 or the Evil starts manifesting and it's like, it gets a little stretchy.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah, a little bit like that.
He also looks like he could be in an X file somewhere, like, mozying around in the back of one.
Totally.
I'll also throw out he could be like the third guy.
If they needed a third guy in Turtles 2, it's Toka, Razar and Pumpkin.
Yep.
I can see that.
I mean, it is that like, it's a fella.
in a suit, but there's like a very detailed face on the monster.
Also, he could maybe be one of the blue collar comedy tour guys.
I thought it might have been Jeff Foxworthy.
Ron White's too much of a crippling alcoholic these days.
He's off the tour.
Bring in pumpkin head to replace him.
I'm not sure if we even got really point made a point of this.
The pumpkin head's like six foot nine.
Oh, yeah.
This, you get pumpkin head on a court, I think.
Oh, you get a ball.
you give him away from this murdering stuff
summon him to win the championship
oh my god him playing it for the
Lakers and Jacks just clapping
oh I'm sorry there's no rule
in the book that a vengeance demon
can play basketball
pumpkin head in the paint
have you ever seen something so beautiful
the coach has to like go to the holler
witch and say he wants vengeance
on every single team they play
look they killed my
record
so
look I really appreciate
She ain't you coming out here and talking to us like this.
But it's just not how it's done.
I don't think I could avenge your loss to the Celtics, Pat Riley.
I always knew that the Lakers were going to go all the way with Pumpkin Head.
So something, something.
Oh, where could Maggie be classic?
And this, I guess it's now just a proud tradition with this cabin.
Because of what goes on that Fourth Friday of the 13th movie.
this girl goes right through this kitchen window.
Oh, it's brutal.
And it's kind of just like pumpkin heads just dropping her off.
Like now you deal with it.
There's an amazing part where they're like running around the cabin after she gets pulled out.
Like, oh my God, there's something out here.
What can it be?
Do you catch, there's one shot, it's pumpkinhead casually walking by the window?
Yeah.
Just like, now what's the best way to get into this house here?
I'll huff and all puffing up.
I'm kidding.
I'm joking.
I'm joking around.
Yeah, I'm going to throw your dead friend through the window.
They said, hey, there, Pumpkin Head,
tick walk on the wild side.
Oh, fuck, I got to kill somebody.
Here's a question.
And I mean, like, because, like, they say, you know,
once it happens, you're marked.
And Pumpkinhead always knows where you are.
He's always going to find you.
And that's why no one can interfere
because if you're in the way, you will get hurt as well.
Yeah.
What is the marking process?
Like, because, hey, look, pumpkinhead, I was,
I didn't have a dirt bike.
my name is Maggie, I'm Christian, like, yeah, I was in the car with these people.
I think it's just the city folk.
The city folk umbrella.
It's guilt by association, which is unfortunate because I had the same thought, Steve,
because like literally the first guy to go, Steve, he's the guy that stayed with the kid.
But also, is it worth summoning fucking pumpkinhead for one kill?
You want to get a package deal, I think.
Well, that called open appears to be that case.
There was somebody else.
There was like two guys out there.
We didn't kill that girl.
I think there's another fellow.
Oh, I just thought it was Dick Warlock.
You want your killings to be a spree.
Yeah, you want to have a couple there.
I mean, they're going to serve you in heaven or hell.
You need to want a couple of them.
Good point.
Wait, hold on.
So Pumpkinhead just killed that guy, Joel.
What about Steve?
And wait, and Todd Gack got killed by Pumpkinhead.
Now Pumpkinhead's also dead.
And the judge decreed that Gack becomes his butler in hell.
You know what?
You can kill Gypsy too.
He's the reason he was out there.
Oh, yeah. You know what? Off the dog.
Primo, thanks to this screenplay from Letton Gypsy.
He survived to the credits. He absolutely does. He absolutely does. So we should say when the killin goes down, we start realizing there's like a link between Pumpkin Head and Lance Henrickson.
He's seeing them. He's seeing it go down, but he's also feeling it like he's doubled over like some sort of stomach pain or diarrhea. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like,
I don't know Pumpkinhead
Just give me a phone call
Like I got another one
Don't worry
That Christian girl
She's long dead
I'll follow up in a few hours
But you do remember
What the witch said
About the bad stuff
That happens
When you take breath
Yeah you're shitting yourself
As part of it
Yeah you're going to hell as well
But yeah you're shitting yourself
Every time it happens
There's one fucking final indignity
Before you spend eternity in hell
You're just shitting your pants
6 times
Oh whatever you do
Do not change your pants
It's just gonna keep happening
As long as there's a live
city folk.
When you die,
you do shit your pants.
True.
But once,
one glorious one.
I don't know.
I haven't died yet.
Well,
okay.
You have a collect call
from Pumpkinhead.
Yeah,
I'll accept the charges.
Yeah,
just got another one.
Just want to let you know.
Thanks for paying for the call.
Or if Pumpkinhead's like
trying to be courteous,
he wants to get the information in
before you accept charges.
Pumpkin hey,
I want to do a dog.
Oh, fuck.
I got the blind girl
I used to do like when I was a kid
and I would call my parents
and like you know the 90s to pick me up somewhere
you'd set you call collect
and then like try to get it all in
oh yeah
I'm at the do that
yep oh yeah
did you do that because you were inspired
by that commercial
I think it was like a 10 10 220 commercial
I was impressionable
because it was like
I think about this commercial to this day
where it was like 10 10 220
or one of those things where it's like
you know, a different way to call
if you didn't have a quarter,
but it's not exactly call and collect.
And the whole thing was like,
isn't it always a problem when you don't,
you want to call somebody,
but you can't afford it and you got to do this?
And it's a guy calling his parents
to announce the birth of their child.
Okay.
And he goes, it's like,
please state your name.
And he goes, Bob, we had a baby,
it's a boy.
Yes, now I remember.
Okay, I think about that all the time.
And like, of all the first,
phone calls not to cheap out on
well I mean I think that's
the point I think the commercial you see Andrew
was taking it to a comical extreme
oh yeah comical you say I've heard about those
excellent these jokes
you speak of comedy and advertising
interesting
well I think of next
pumpkin heads raised in hell he's raised in hell
and Hendrickson once he sees what's going on
and I think it's also like it's not so much the guilt
over the kids being murdered it's like man
this diarrhea sensation is really awful.
Yeah, we have to stop that first and foremost.
I want the kids dead, but the cramps, my lord, the cramps.
Exactly. So he goes back to the holler witch and he's like, hey, this sucks.
Buyer's remorse, I will admit it.
And she's basically just like, you gotta let it do the magic head, Holly.
He happened to have a diet pumpkin head.
I just want half of what I've got now.
Caffeine free pumpkinhead, many chance.
Some version of this.
Oh, no.
She gave me Olestra pump
My cramps are even worse
The taste the same
But the shit comes quicker
Oh it's a liquid thing now
Oh
He says something like
Oh stop it
Don't work you foo
You're failing your die
If I die
I die
And at this point like yeah
Of course
Who the fuck cares about
You're gonna open that fucking shit store tomorrow
No no no no
What's gonna happen
What's gonna take it
Let him have it.
His life is over.
His vengeance should have been himself.
Yeah.
Buckflower is like, oh, great.
I can move my family into the storm.
Four more of my kids can come in here now.
Oh, God.
You sleep on the potatoes.
You sleep next to the cash register.
Yeah.
Because that kid's named potatoes and that kids named cash register.
One of the girls dies in the kitchen.
Is that how this happens?
What happens in the kitchen?
Doesn't what does the body get thrown through a window in the kitchen?
That happens.
It is fucking hilarious though.
This is what I was saying.
This guy's got a real...
It's in the house now, yes.
It's the house.
This dude's got a real sense of humor
because when he goes to throw Maggie
through the window, he's like holding the back
of her head.
And he puts it up to the window without smashing into her person.
Like, hi, I'm Maggie.
I love the Lord Jesus Christ.
I got you.
It's just me pumpkinhead smash.
Yes.
And they all kind of freak out.
It's where it like gets Kim,
the, the girlfriend for Joel's girlfriend.
Yes.
which I think she at this point is just kind of like
knocked to the ground initially
and like pumpkin head this is kind of great
like you do see him just walk through this kitchen doorway
and it's nice to know that the monster fits in the house
I don't know why but I was like all right he's not ducking
and as I said like a lumber
this fucking thing goes to the tallest tree around
brings this body with it's great
and just tosses her down on a rock
a perfect ceremonial rock right in the middle of the woods.
It's a big. It's a face plant special.
So many babies have just been killed on this.
This is a mid-Somar. She's been samared here.
Absolutely. Because Joel is the one who sees Pumpkinhead in the kitchen.
Like, he runs in after discovering like the motorbikes were all fucked up or whatever.
And he comes in and like this monster just sachets into the fucking doorway or whatever.
He's like, what is going on here?
Pumpkinhead takes the girlfriend's body
and yeah, they jumps up the tree
and they're all like, don't do it, Pumpkin Head.
What's that? Do it? You got it.
And then that leaves, I think,
oh, then Joel is the next to go.
These are all kind of like dispatched really quickly.
Yes, because, and then like, I think
Ed Harley shows up and he's trying to stop Pumpkinhead.
Yes.
And very, he accidentally cuts his arm
and then Pumpkin in goes,
oh hey oh i didn't know it worked both ways
like what are you that he he like gets caught on
on a on a brand no he gets caught on the door with like a
with a cord and he stabs himself with a pitchfork or something
that's at the end that is one of the funniest
what the hell were you doing moments in the movie yeah
they're running through the woods
now ed harley's on their side essentially but then
well they're like running through like the hillbilly village
And it's like basically
what happened at the start of the movie
They're all banging on the doors
And like there is this one really great
Like old lady just peels back the curtain
Like I ain't helping you none
And just kind of closes it
And they're all like banging on the doors or whatever
This is where I noticed this Chris guy
The dude from Superman
He also kind of looks exactly like
Tim Heidecker with like a big curly hair blowout
Yeah I say that
He's probably the same age Tim Heidecker is now in this movie
But I think Joel gets it here
by getting impaled by a shotgun.
Ooh, yes.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
That's right.
They blast the fuck out of pumpkin head.
Pumpkin head goes down.
And then they're like, well, that's the end of pumpkin head.
And I think he goes to the check.
And then someone's like, Joel, don't.
It's a great thing of like pumpkin head perfect comedic timing this guy.
Because Joel's like, it's dead.
And a pumpkin head is like, oh, yeah.
And like immediately grabs the ankle right after he says it, which is awesome.
It is so good because it's like, once.
Pumpkinhead then picks up the gun.
I'm going to be like,
pumpkin head shooting bullets?
Yes.
It's going to be amazing.
I, dude,
I thought it was going to be like a pumpkin head.
Yeah.
But no,
you just,
uh,
he just shoves it into this guy's belly.
Yeah.
So like uses him as a puppet basically.
Yeah,
he tells him.
He's like playing with the head.
Like it's like he's like a lion or like a dog like playing with the prey or
whatever.
It's cool.
What was that movie?
Does I remember this movie where it's a movie where it's pretty popular one where like this happened and like they
used the body to,
uh,
get the next bullet
from dust till dawn
is that yes
I think it's from
yeah yeah yeah yeah
how many points Steve
it was either that or like
Sean of the dead or something
but yeah I think it's
yeah but meanwhile
now it's just Chris and is it
Terry is the woman there
the last Tracy Tracy
Chris and Tracy the last two
they were the good guys
they wanted to call the cops
immediately the whole thing
and again I just want to be like
who can I talk
is there someone I could talk to here
like where's pumpkin
head customer service. Please
hold for Satan.
Our next evil representative is
available in the next a million
years. 666
hours. Speak to a representative.
Holler witch. I want to speak to the
hot. Oh, she's smoking her eye of
Newt. Great. Okay, good.
But they're running around. They wind up
at Buck Flowers holler. They're banging on the
doors and nobody's picking up
and Bunt is looking
out the window like we should probably
help them like you get you get to bed boy you get you get there's a weird because like buckflower
is now like you know the patriarch of his family is like the grandfather sure to bunt and then there's
like middle guy dad who's not a character which is not at all he's just like you get to bed boy
you listen to your grandpappy also like the the logistics question like grandpappy is it
is that thing out there going to hurt the animals no no no son he only goes after the marked ones
You don't got to worry about
A pumpkin and what you got to worry about is
motorbikes
Take out any day
It only kills what it's called upon
To kill
Yeah
And that would get in its way
Right
Yeah
That's true
The poem remember that
So Bunn
decides to sneak out
And his
His sister here
Who I don't see if I can find it
Because I think she was somebody
Everybody's somebody
Well no
I guess
disagree. Oh, the sister's character name is Hesse. She was on the entirety of one-season show,
my so-called life. She's one of the in the friend group. She was one of the ones that were so-calling it.
I think that's right. Oh, my God. I think she's like friends with Claire Danes or something.
But then Bunt here takes them to this derelict church in the woods because they tried to bring God here and it didn't stick.
It just did not stick, which is such a great thing.
Yeah, love the whole set design
of this burned out church, really cool.
And I guess he won't come here
because it's like, it's hollowed ground or something.
Yeah, with Christianity and whatnot.
When Pumpkinhead shows up,
he just tosses the cross in the ground.
Dude, he walks right in, which is great.
And they like beat it out the other side of it.
And yeah, like the movie plays,
the movie makes you think that this is going to make a difference.
Because here's this crucifix hanging from the wall
and he just looks at it like,
yeah, fucking right.
Pulls it off the wall and throws it up.
What this shit?
Are you serious?
Tell me another one.
This is where pumpkin head starts being like a little stinker.
He's doing that.
And then like coming up, he like, yeah, I'll just take their chain off their bike.
Like, how did you know that pumpkin head?
Dude, how do you know how a motorcycle works pumpkin head?
He's like dangling it.
And it's a definite predator laugh.
I just realized because he was killed by the greasers who might have had a motorcycle.
Oh, that might be it.
It wouldn't be funny if you just caught pumpkin head like putting sugar in a gas.
This is pretty shit
Potato in the exhaust pipe
This'll get him
Yeah, I put the banana in the tailpipe
I did it
He only puts the banana in the tailpipe
What he's called upon
To put the banana in the tailpipe
By the LAPD
Oh he's gonna help you now
Eddie Murphy
But yeah
So he I do love
He does dangle it
Like I got it
Definitely does
It's so fucking funny
This guy, he is a little stinker, this pumpkin head.
And he grabs Chris on and motorcycles and all and throws him against a tree.
It's awesome.
It's a good pumpkinhead power move here.
Again, like the undertaker, like, I didn't think he could lift a motorcycle, but he totally does.
throws this dude, the bike like kind of lands on him.
Ed Harley is like, come back to my place.
We'll be safe there.
Yeah, get in my truck.
Because Pumpkinhead also definitely steps on this dude's back.
It looks great.
That's a great moment.
But that, speaking
of someone who's, you know,
for the first time recently
has been having some back issues.
That might fix some issues right there.
Oh, yeah.
Crack it right up.
Yep, yep.
Lower lumbar.
Come back here.
A little lower.
Yeah, there it is.
Between the blades.
Right between it.
The only Cairo packs what he's called upon.
And those backs that get in his way.
Yeah, you'll be coming back to him in five months
to have him do it again.
Then you start thinking,
he create the problem and he's a profiting off of it now? I don't know.
Chicken or the egg, chiropractor or the back of pain. Who knows?
He, uh, in the truck to Ed Harley's house, awkward conversation here where it's like, yeah,
so, and I again, if I'm, if I'm Tracy here, I want to be like, I want to be really clear.
I didn't kill your kid. I was on, I was on a motorcycle. My boyfriend was on a motorcycle.
And I wanted to call the cops immediately. These assholes.
half of whom are dead, or they're all dead.
I have whom I didn't even like, by the way.
That, that Joel guy was a real dickhead.
You know what, little girl?
That's great, but not the time or the place.
He almost, he killed somebody, didn't he?
What the fact before this even?
So we get back to Lance's house for the finale here,
and Pumpkinhead shows up.
Lance, immediately getting this flamethrower ready.
You see a flamethrower being used to tend a yard
at the beginning of a.
the film. It best be used to murder
a monster at the end of it. That's how I was
hoping that episode of how to John Wilson would
end as well.
Pumpkinhead arrives dragging Chris with him
which I think is kind of interesting. Who's still alive?
It's like, yeah, I'm gonna. Oh, fuck.
If no one sees it, it's not
as cool. Hold on Chris, come here.
I know I stepped on your back and everything, but
the traditional pumpkinhead method of
Moyda is to drop you from a high distance.
So you got to come with me until I could find your
friends and they can find a ladder and I can climb
up it and drop. That is actually
an improvement in the sequel
is that he, his new
favorite thing is ripping
things off of people.
Oh, wow.
So like eight powers. Yeah.
Yeah. And one head does get pulled off
as well as well. I love that. Not so bad.
Not so bad. There is a great thing where
like there's a really lame jump scare
and it's like just the dog and Bunt is like
oh, few, just a dog. And then
pumpkin head immediately like bursts in.
Pumpkinhead kind of takes this kid hostage
because it's like, I know you didn't do nothing,
but you're best not getting my way.
Now, I will only speak to Kevin Spacey.
Listen to me now.
I will only speak to him.
But so this is, Henriksen comes out with the flame throw,
and he's like, all right, Pumpkinhead, here it comes.
I'm going to get you.
Oh, I just walked right into a pitch for it.
What a foolish mood.
It's your farm.
You know where the.
fucking pitchfork is. Absolutely. I get it, man. You got like this like pumpkin head like shared brainwaves
diarrhea thing going on. Your eyeballs are changing into like monster color. That's kind of fun.
It is pretty good shit. But still like you got to see that pitchfork coming. It's the stress. And also I mean,
you don't want to say it because the boy's dead, but Billy probably left it out like that.
Yeah. Playing with the pitchforks. It's the kid's fault. And listen, but this confirms for the audio
and Lance Hendrickson because he sees it.
Pumpkin, it's like, ow, fuck.
It, like, again, not the budget to do it,
but, like, it would be awesome if, like,
five holes just opened up, like,
on Pumpkinhead's shoulder or whatever.
But, yeah, it's just like, ow.
Well, I guess the best I can do
is kind of make your face with my face.
That's what starts happening here,
which is cool.
It's like Pumpkinhead's face
starts kind of looking more like Lance Hendrickson,
which is weird.
I'm glad you said more like,
because they do look alike in general.
Yeah, they do.
I thought they were twins.
monster visages. He's my brother.
He's not as wet as me.
But this is when he's like, well,
I guess it's the Stevensonic rule of movies.
Absolutely. Time to shoot. And kill myself.
Yeah. Embarrassing, dude.
What a botched job.
Dude, put the gun in your mouth.
Oh, but Steve, I mean, you're waiting for all the other people to die first before you do it, right?
You're not going to, are you going to heroic?
It's not going to see Pumpkinhead. It's time to go.
Oh, wait.
Not even seeing it, dude, is like, oh, what's coming after me?
Got it.
I'll be in the bathroom.
I don't want to be thrown on the ground violently.
That sounds bad.
I don't want to be dropped from a high distance.
I wonder if the vik, if who you summoned, you're like, you summoned pumpkin head to kill someone
and that person kills himself before pumpkin head can do it.
Is he just hanging around for a few days?
Well, I think it might be what happens here, right?
Because, like, Lance, you know, what's her face takes the gun?
Tracy takes the gun.
It puts another like four or five into.
Lance. Well, he's just to say he shoot,
Lance Anderson kind of shoots in some of the head. He's got like next to him.
And you think that's the end of the movie because
he's like, and he dies. And then sort of
as a final jump scare, they both
get up at the same time. Right, right. Because I guess
the bullet grazed his head or some. And I think
now Lance Henderson might be evil too.
Because he's like, he's got the eyes. He's got the eyes.
But he does do a classic move.
Kill me.
Absolutely. And she fucking lights this dude up. And so when Lance
dies, I think what happens here, like if you are
the person who summoned pumpkin in and then you eat
shit no matter what. Pumpkin
head is bursting into flames right. Yeah, he goes
back to skeleton for him. You know, so he had that
kill me also when he went back to the witch, he had a classic
not like this. Yeah. Not like this. I wanted all these kids to be
dead but not like this. You know, come on man. I didn't want to shit
myself. I just wanted them dead. Honestly, it's the diarrhea
cramps. It's really, really uncomfortable. I'm so
dehydrated. I'm so
there isn't even clear water around. You didn't. You didn't tell me.
I wouldn't be able to stop shitting.
And there's no paedioly.
I mean, it'll come around here no more.
Oh, pediolite hasn't been president of this county ever.
I put a letter into the corporation.
They said they wouldn't sell it at Arley Grocery.
But so he's dead and that's kind of it, right?
Yeah, Chris, Tracy, and Bunt are all still alive there.
And then we get a little bit of a little bit of an outro of Hagus, the witch.
another job well-dime pumpkin
and putting it back in the
tree stump and burying it. But the big twist
is that it's it she doesn't bury pumpkin head
she buries Ed Harley because it's got the necklace on it.
So he will be the next pumpkin head is the idea.
I guess that's the idea right but it's weird
because like it's still the pumpkin head skeleton
it looks like it doesn't look like a corpse.
I think he transformed into the public
because he was transforming anyway.
So even after he gets blown away
The body keeps turning into a pumpkinhead monster you're saying
That's what this movie would have me believe
Got it
That sounds right
Got it
Beautiful
Yeah I put it is
I put a glaze on it
He age it the right way
Pumpkin head just don't get created
You got to put a special potion on it
I gotta do a lot of stuff to it
To make it work right
To get some olive oil
Some wash of sester sauce
Cup up a cup of cloves of garlic
You got some time in there
Oh, whoops, I made gumbo by accident
Well, yeah, I put the body and the chicken breasts in there
Ain't no difference
I was trying to preserve another pumpkin head corpse
When I said I accidentally made gumbo
And it's delicious
That's the end of this movie
Yeah, sort of freeze frame on the shitty necklace
That the kid made for him
And that's the end of the film
Stan Winston's directorial debut
go around the horn here. Final thoughts, Eric Siska?
Yeah, it's a recommend for me.
I really like this movie. I saw it a few times
before. This, the creature
effects are cool. I like how it's
lean. Like, this is a great
thing to throw in the middle of a marathon.
86 minutes. Bing, bang, boom.
It's a fun little movie.
Chris Cabin. Yeah, I'd like
the first half. The stuff leading up to
when the kills actually start having. This is rare
for the kills are not my favorite part
of it. Like, it's all the moodiness.
of the witch's place
and like to create the lore of
Pumpkinhead, that's what's interesting to me
and of course the child being killed.
The kills like, it's fine,
but like it's just kind of like, well, we're going to kill them all.
Here we go. Bob, pop, pop, pop. And like,
that's a little boring. But whatever,
it's fun. Steve Zana. Yeah, I kind of agree with Chris.
I think you can amp the kills up a little bit
and this is like a real four star right now. It's like a three and a half.
It's a solid recommend. Yeah. The mood is
great and I do like to watch Lance
Henriksen work when he gets a chance to work
as opposed to just
sort of like being around I mean
previous episode Hard Target
he's working in that movie oh he
absolutely is yes
he's just a fun really cool
screen presence so I enjoy
watching him do stuff and end stuff out of
character here so that's kind of cool to watch
and yeah and all the creature
effects are great and you know the mood is fantastic
so it's a solid recommend for me
yeah no solid recommend for me too
it is that weird like it's a creature feature that then also
tries to be a slasher movie which it doesn't need to be
like you know that's fine
but if you are going to do that then yeah let's see some stuff
and we're just not like dropping people let's come on
he's got those claws start
you got the tail with the point at the end of it much like the devil
himself well I'll have to check out this sequel it sounds like they amp up a little
bit of that it's you know there's not as much
the blood is
sometimes they bring it out
but it's mostly just
like throw it against the wall
stuff not like
I don't mind a little throw on the wall
then you probably enjoy it then
let me ask you this
you said Kane Hodder's in the movie
is he playing Pumpkin Head
or is he a guy?
No he gets he's one of the victims of
oh I like that that's pretty cool
I might have to check that out tonight myself
pre-onplex if you have it
what is that?
It's like one of the streaming sites
Oh got it
well but that is going to do it
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next week, the spooktacular
continues? It sure does. We got one
more, yeah? Two more. Oh, my God.
Steve, well, what is the next one at least?
Well, you know, you're going to lock
your doors because for some reason
one night a year, crime is
legal or something.
It's the purge.
Oh, man. The one that started at all.
I've never seen this one. Really?
Oh, really? The worst of the bunch. I would say.
Maybe the last one wasn't so good,
but I saw this because I was like, how cool
Ethan Hawke, and then I remember being
heavily underwhelmed
and I have never seen a single sequel
because I dislike the first movie so much
you gotta do it. Oh God. Yeah, I see you see these. I only saw
the first one of the second one. The second one's kind of good. Anarchy.
Yeah, anarchy is really fun. I like, I think I
like all of them other than the first purge. The first one's
the first is not that, it's pretty good. That's right. Yeah, yeah. It's the last
like the forever purge is the bad thing. I see. I mean, so what's good for the
goose man. Like when we do those saw movies or
whatever, I fucking watch all of them. I have
no excuse not to watch
as we go on. But next week, we're talking
about the purge. It's Ethan Hawk being
scared. People are trying to kill his family or
something. He ties a dude
up to a chair for most of the movie.
That's exciting. It's something. It's
something. So we'll see a little
purge re-evaluation next week
on We Hate Movies. But until then, I've been Andrew
Juppin. Stephen Seda. Eric's Cisco. Chris
Cabin. Take it easy.
We all go a little mad sometimes.
You know, it's Halloween.
I guess everyone's a title of one good scare.
Sometimes, that is better.
Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in!
It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicca Land.
They're coming to get you.
Coming to get you, Barbara.
He's sick for fucks using one too many movies.
Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies?
Movies don't create psychos.
Movies make psychos.
More creative!
Put the fucking lotion in the bag!
What an excellent day for an exited.