We Hate Movies - S14 Ep703: The Purge

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

“We need to institute the Purge so Tom Six can finally release The Onania Club!” - Steve  On this week’s show, the 2023 Halloween Spooktacular continues with an episode on the half-baked horror sensation that started it all, The Purge! Why couldn’t they figure out some way to get the movie out of this house for a few scenes? Does this film universe presuppose that all of us have hidden serial killer desires? Why couldn’t we see some white collar Purge-related crimes? And how are so many people getting lost in this stupid house? PLUS: During the Purge, be on the lookout for Houdini: the Beastiality Fiend! The Purge stars Ethan Hawke, Lena Headey, Max Burkholder, Adelaide Kane, Rhys Wakefield, Tony Oller, Chris Mulkey, Arija Bareikis, and Edwin Hodge as Bloody Stranger; directed by James DeMonaco. Be sure to get your tickets for this Thursday’s LIVE worldwide digital experience where we’ll be talking about Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter! Can’t make the broadcast? No problemo! The replay is available for a full seven days after Thursday’s show!  Today’s episode is brought to you by Nutrisense! To start decoding your body's messages and pave the way for a healthier life, visit  NUTRISENSE DOT COM SLASH WHM and get $30 off your first month and one month of board certified nutritionist support as well. When they ask how you learned about Nutrisense make sure to tell them it was the We Hate Movies podcast! Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Be sure to get in early and get your tickets for the WHM Holiday Extravaganza where we’re talking The Santa Clause! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!

This week on the program, can someone turn on the goddamn lights? I can't see a thing in this movie. It's the Purge. I'm Andrew Jupin. I'm the founding father, Stephen Sadek. Eric Purge. Chris Cabin election year. And we hate movies.

We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess every day. You want to battle one good scare. Sometimes, dead is murder. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in!

It is time to keep your appointment with the Wickham Land. They're coming to get you, Barbara. These sick fucks using one too many movies. Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psych. Don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative. Put the fucking motion in the bad.

What an excellent day for an exorcism. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. The spectacular continues with a movie that's, well, it's not really saying anything. It's The Purge from 2013 directed by James Domenico,

who also did Anarchy and Election years, sequels to this motion picture. Much better films. And he wrote the very poor assault on Precinct 13 remake. Oh, is that right? And he also wrote his how he broke out was with Jack. Oh my God. Francis Ford Coppola's Jack.

But he wrote that? He wrote Jack. So he wrote Jack. He did nothing for years on end. And then wrote that Ethan Hawk Assault on Precinct 13. No, he worked. He did the negotiator. He's just a screenwriter. Oh, oh, interesting.

I'm more impressed by the second. Mr. James. Demonico. There you go. Oh, if I wasn't right in screenplays, I'd have a family-style restaurant. He's from Staten Island. Oh,

which makes all the sense of the goddamn world. Oh, yeah. But isn't the, one of the, the first purge takes place on Staten Island, right? That's the idea, like, I was, I was right.

This movie is set in California. Sorry, the first purge is a sequel to this movie. Wait, and who's on the first series? All right. It's great. Yeah, because I knew that there was another movie called that, but then I said that. Did you? You are correct, Steve.

This is, okay, so I think you guys are all, I would say, fluently versed in the purge of verse. This is the only of these movies I've ever seen. This is one and done. I only saw two, so I'm still learning. I'm in like Purge 201 or whatever. So you can do like conversational purge. not fluent yet. Oh, I said, I just say, where's the toilet in purge. It's in this movie, dude. That's where the toilet is. Perj anarchy is after this. I saw that one. And I kind of liked it, but I didn't see any of the others.

I never, I knew that I didn't want to watch this movie. And I never have until last night. But then when the purge anarchy came out, I think maybe you and Chris were like, oh, it's good. You should watch it. And I did. And I was like, oh, it's awesome. Or it was really fun. And then I wound up, uh, the end of my purge experience was, election night on 2016, my wife and I were like, you know, it'd be really funny if we watched Perge's election year instead of watching election cover. You guys did it. And that was a like, L-O-L-L purge election year. What's my cell phone telling me what's going on? And that was the end of being the Purge. Yeah, it was just like, you know, that's enough. Well, I've doomed us all. Why won't my fucking phone stop buzzing? The fuck. Wait, so Chris or Eric. Yeah. Or I guess just Chris then.

So you've seen them all. Did you fucking dabble in that? I'm not watching the TV. You're not watching the TV. No, thank you. Please no. That's a, what would that even be? Is it like one season is one night's purge or? I don't think so. I think it's more of like, stories.

Yeah, like stories from the purge. Oh, okay. Again, I've never watched it. You got to really care about the purge if you're watching that TV show. What happens to what happens to a Manhattan jeweler during the purge? What happens to, I can take a couple of guesses. What happens to a farm hand during? the purge, you know. So if

anyone is unfamiliar with the very high concept of this franchise, it's Shirley Jackson for morons. America has devolved to such a state, which I think we're fucking, we're right there. We're about to actually ratify

this. Once a year from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. to 7 a.m. All crime is legal. And they have to specify in this little opening and elsewhere including murder. Just in case anyone was unsure, murder is also on the table. Including murder.

There's two exceptions. One, it's you know, members of the state, you know, level 10. Level 10 members of the state are exempt, whatever that means. Is there a website for that? Is the the pamphlet I have to buy? You definitely have to buy it. Wait, even on the purge, I can't kidnap

Governor Whitmer. And watch the boy. And very specifically, weapons class one to class four, which I assume class five is A bomb, so Oppenheimer is out of here. Oppenheimer kid. Tribute on the plurge. I mean, yeah, that's a good call

because, like, you are seeing machine gunning go down in this movie, so I'm like, all right, AR-15s are fine, so what is that like bombs, I guess? Dirty bombs and stuff like that. I guess you don't want that. Well, isn't it nice. They have rules. That would clear up by sunup, you see. So there you go. Well, I would

never drop a bomb on everybody. I would, though, like to fuck everyone. one's white on the night of the purge. Purge night while the men are out fucking I would and killing I would like to be fucking. Right. If I can. That used to be illegal, right?

That's true. You know how to wedlock like that? That would have been the purge back then. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, that's what I want, right? I want like purge white collar division. Yeah.

It's like, oh cool, the purge is happening. Time to cheat on my taxes. Yeah. Or, like, yeah, or download a bunch of movies you could do. Oh, yeah. town. Definitely would wait for the person to do that. A trans woman could use the bathroom wherever the fuck she wanted in the south.

That's exciting for her for a day. But also would be great too. It's like, think about the zoo, Chris. You and your freaks could descend upon that. Me and my friends start going through those animals. You and your gang of horse fuckers.

People would be having sex with the animals constantly. Oh, well, sure. But not me and my freaks. No, I don't think. No, one of the freaks you know of. What if you do, you know, you run out of ideas for the purge because there's been so many and there's animal fucking and the new one. Not at,

you could go animal fucking or after the animal fucking one because we have to get that one done first. You got to do. You got to get that one of the care. Sure. Yes. Dude just cloning night of the purge. Like just what night like it's like it's it's seven 15. He's like now I'm going to clone a human being.

Oh. Then what are you going to do? What's going to happen there? I'd love this idea. Yeah. And then you can kill it and be merciful. Would the clone? be illegal by 7 a.m.

That's what I was going to ask, dude, like, one 7 a.m. hits is like Michael Keaton number four? Like, does that dude have to go to jail now? Harris Eulet is just making Michael Keat. Come on. We only got two more hours. Got to crank out some more Keaton. Shoot them all. That's what you got to do.

It's 7. 6.30 a.m. Get shooting. I'll give you the gun. Here it is. You had a stupid one first. That would be a more interesting movie than this movie. guarantee you, by the way, airlines are gouging you the week before the purse to get out of the country

you get about it. Those trips are fucking nuts. Dude, it's worse than the night before Thanksgiving. I mean, you are, this is literally speaking to exactly what the problem of this is, is you've created this world that is insane and like, I want to see all the weird shit. I want to see it all. And I have to look at Ethan Hawke's fucking face the whole time. And it's a nice face. Oh, sure. Not going to say it isn't. But like,

not what I want. it's a great elevator pitch right you're the elevator with you know Mr. Blumhouse himself and you're like hey man listen one night a year murder is legal and he's like whoa and the problem is and he gets out of the elevator he's going to be like

wait a second and anything after that wait a second the whole the whole thing unravels completely it does but he bought into it and then the film was set entirely in the Blumhouse I think it is because we don't go outside in this movie we certainly don't it would be nice if they

did, but I understand that they didn't because of budgetary concerns, and also the idea of hunkering down with your family during an event like this, I guess is relatable. It just kills a lot of this. Not even satire of the point of the movie. Because it just, it doesn't, the message isn't really clear. And I know what I don't know what we're trying to say. Like, Americans are scumbags.

I know that. I live here. Gun control is a big problem, obviously, like America. But then again, the movie turns into gun porn at the end. He's got a super gun. is, like, fucking laying waste to these people. Like, that's kind of cool. That's, yeah, that big shotgun thing or whatever.

But also, like, it doesn't tell you anything about, like, what's going on. Like, clearly it's not a perfect society outside of, like, the purge hasn't fixed anything. Like, and I think that's what the movies. Well, no, the, the, the purge is fixed everything, Andrew. You're wrong. It's fixed everything for some reason. It's so stupid. The jobs report.

We're down to 1% unemployment because of purge, question mark. And crime is very. Virtually, by the way, non-existent. Because it's like, you know, I'm going to do the crime on, oh, the crime day. I'm going to wait for crime day. That's what that at the core is why this is one of the stupidest ideas of all time. Because then you're saying like, okay, things like crimes of passion, things of that nature are just eliminated.

And some dudes like, yeah, all right, it's July 7th. Yeah. I'm going to wait eight months and then you're going to get it. It's like the state being like premeditate your crimes people. Please, come on, think it through. I'm going to stop systematically domestic abusing my wife, which is how most murderous fucking start. But once the purge happens, Alice, to the moon.

That's true. You just wait, I'm going to remember this cold dinner for 13 weeks or whatever. It just doesn't make any fucking sense. And also it also presupposes not only like, like, you know, like the white-collar crimes and whatever, all those like little... Beastiality. Beastiality. The fun industry.

discretions. We are a nation of not just even like serial killers, like crazy, creepy, eerie cereal. These like neighbors at the end that are like, we're going to cleanse our souls. And I'm like, what are you talking about? It's all the Hannibal universe. Like literally every other corner, except for there's nothing artful about it at all. So fuck it. But like, I would love it if someone just made the point. Like, because I always took it as like those, the job. report all that shit is bullshit because the founding fathers are bullshit and like the new founding fathers also the original founding fathers are bullshit but whatever uh but that i i always assume that's like the thing is they're just a papering it over to make people feel better yeah about

what's happening i guess so yeah there's a religious tinge to in a way like there is the way we're talking about these new founding fathers and the society they've brought us to and now we're in the blessed year of 20. 22. 22. This film is from 10 years ago, 2013, 2020. And the montage of the purges of past, the past

purges we get to witness here. We open with all the security footage. Yeah. Which is dated March 22nd, 2020. And it's like, never, never has it been more clear that America is creatively bankrupt than seeing these kills.

I'm seeing nothing good. Yeah. Oh, I got a chainsaw. Oh, I want to be Toby Hooper. Like a fucking shotgun. Come on. It's the fucking, you get to do whatever you want. Well, wait, you're then, you're asking us to become like a nation of John Kramer's, dude. And that's not going to happen.

But I wish there was just a couple. Like, you don't have anything else to really put your stuff into. We're the laziest, slothiest country on the plate. Quickly, the 2020 stuff, hey, it confirms, right? Like this lockdowns, they predicted the lockdowns. here it's the purge in real life it was a different type of an event I do think the

this movie does understand that the bounce back to Obama was going to be bad like you know what I mean that's the one thing this movie gets right is like the conservative bounce back because it was happening to the Tea Party etc etc like something something

it's not going to be good and you know what I mean like that's sort of is an okayish starting point yeah sure okayish but I feel like it's probably why people say those sequels are better because taking up like it's a big idea and then like just I don't know like you presented up front in your intro

and then you don't really see it executed outside of this one house because then you're just ripping off the strangers for 90 minutes pretty much which is a much better movie which is a much much better movie and it was a huge not even influence I mean obviously that this movie is just eating at the strangers But, I mean, it's like the, the other movies, at least, are action horror movies. Yes. You're outside. You're open. There's escape from New Yorkie kind of stuff going on. That's because they're not scary concept. That's the problem. I mean, there's creative decisions being made in the sequels. Yes. Like, the sequels are all like the different ways they dress up. Like, different ways they do things. That does happen. And it would be cool if they were highlighting the fact like Americans are lazy and stupid and therefore they do it that way.

But they're not doing that. They're just kind of like, we don't want to do anything else. There should be like an app where you hire someone to kill four you. Like that stuff would be cool. Maybe that's addressed in the television show. Instant coffin or something.

It's murder, but there's no E in it. Yeah, exactly. Your murderer is, he's been a fucking circle in the block for an hour. Why is he taking a bike to get here? They always show so many more murderers than there actually are in the neighborhood.

What would be funny? Yeah, hi, this is John your murderer. Did you want me to kill his wife too? Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, because I'm here, I could do it. Is it this guy? Because it doesn't look like the guy.

If it's still, if it's the guy in the house, do you still want me to kill him? It doesn't look like him. It seems like the same brand. I mean, the same guy. Well, you better try next door too. Just kill everyone on the blog. Yeah, just why not? But like, if you wanted to do this correctly and the problem is,

you have a world that's much more interesting than what's going on in your little sphere here. Yeah. But also, you know what this is? It's panic room. Yes. And you know how it, we take time with the villains trying to get in. And this, it's just a bunch of little fascists being like,

he-he-ha-ha-ha. I've seen funny games. That's a question I had, right? Is like, where is this dude's panic room? Because it's just a house with a gate. And this fucking waspy guy that's the leader of like the subtitles call them freaks like the freaks or whatever you know just some spoiled rich fucking dude or

whatever is like there's some guys coming and we're gonna have some tools and we're gonna knock your fence down and I'm like okay and there's there's like that really slim detail thrown in where Ethan Hawk like towards the end of the movie is like oh well my systems weren't designed for stuff like this and I'm like what what is you know what then don't make your lead character a security installer or whatever. Because I mean like, you know, what did you go for the B package? The gold package has to have a gold tier panic room in it. That is the premier, it's that.

And then the fences are later. Because you think like, oh, like that room where like Ethan Hawks got all like the security monitors up and he's like, we're all going to come in here for the start of the purge. But it's just like a TV room in the house. There's not even a door on it. That room should be the fucking safe from thief. Exactly.

You should not be able to get the fuck into it at all. It's the budget. We couldn't afford to do anything in this movie. Well, also, I mean, we'll start soon, I swear. But, like, the problem is, is that these characters are not interesting. Like, the dynamic in the family is very boring. And then, like, the shit that happens with the boyfriend, I'm just like, what the fuck? That's a joke.

That whole thing. What? You cramp? Because that's the thing. What is this movie about? Because, like, it should sort of, if it's. If you believe the log line, it should be about, oh, my God, do we keep, do we save this homeless black stranger? Or do we not save this homeless black stranger?

Black veterans. Exactly. They, they highlight them dog tags, dude. We are saying something without saying a goddamn thing. But by having a, the boyfriend thing and making that a weird personal aside that as huge consequences of the movie. And then the ending with the neighbors, it's like, well, then what the fuck are we even talking about anymore? Yep. It totally loses sight of like whatever it thinks it was maybe starting to try to say. Exactly. But yes, Ethan Hawke is Mr. Sandin here. And yes, he is indeed a home security mogul,

which in itself is kind of interesting, right? Because yes, in this world of the purge, that dude would be a commerce king, right? Like, I have the goods. I can keep your house safe, yada, yada. It's kind of the thing that also stupidly winds up biting the family and the ass. at the end of the movie because all the neighbors are jealous of him throwing his success. But they all live in a rich ass neighborhood. What are you talking about?

This house is so big. This stranger that shows up gets lost. Yeah, we don't know where it is. The house is too big. I despise this. Like they're trying to make it so like multiple threads can be going on at the same time in this movie, but like it's

just a big house. And there's parts where like characters get shot and then they cut to another part of the house where the other character clearly has not heard a gun go off. What are you doing? I mean, the daughter is just lost in another movie for most of it. Yes. She's in

skittammerink for most of it. That'd be great, dude. The skittamering demons and stuff can have sense, oh well, you know, we can just do it that night. Do you want to go upstairs? It's all legal now. Come up here. Howdy, have you seen the toilet?

What happened to her your mouth? What happened to your mouth? I need to hear this now. Joey, the phone's following me. Zoe, this is supposed to be surveillance footage. What are these old cartoons? Come on, Zoe. Get your fucking toys out of here.

It's amazing how this girl gets lost in her own house. She lives in. Ethan Hawke, he's a king shit, closing some deals or whatever. I realize I don't like him playing these kinds of guys. And he doesn't do it a lot. Like, he's played like jerks and kind of like guys would be like, I don't know about that. But this guy's like an openly. like greedy scumbag kind of character

real sleazy salesman type thing I don't like him playing this role but then he's the hero at the end which doesn't make sense but you're also like he's supposed to protect it and it is it becomes really like obviously like he's got to protect his you know what I mean like which is

kind of boring it is Lena Heady is Mary Sandin the wife and mother here yeah she this is like this is two years in a Game of Thrones so she's kind of at the height of her powers being in this movie yeah and actually the interesting note about the purge is that's the only night of the year

this wig is legal any other time she'd get arrested for wearing this wig and rightfully so her mother's calling her and being like are you excited it's the day you finally get to take it out and she's introduced like watching some program where like a doctor is

explaining like mental benefits of the purge and it's all just like how are you people believing this well you see when you purge you come a little bit and that's what happens and then you feel good and then you don't want to do it

I'm purging you it's what happens when you do that or when you're fucking a horse either or either or you're coming a little bit that's true don't forget

just not just murder folks you could fuck a horse tonight there are pelicans out there if you can catch one you just grab it you fuck it you grab it and you fuck it fast

that would be great I'm a medical professional doctor it says I'm a doctor I'm a doctor letting you know the purges is coming up grab an animal

fucking fast. Dr. Horsfucker. There would be a great, like, it would be like, maybe a religious group is like stuffing envelopes full of like brochures

but other crimes you should commit other than murder online. Why not just steal from your neighbor's carpet? You know what I mean? Absolutely. Steal the television. Yeah, some robbery. Just some robbery walk as much as you'd like

across the street now. See, it's these good old fashion crimes that made this country great. Exactly. You just want to beat the shit out of somebody. Go ahead. beat the shit out of them. Oh, my God.

Just don't kill them. Well, maybe. We'll see how it goes. If you get in the heat at that point. But then, yes, then this Zoe is the daughter who we mentioned. She's introduced canoodling with this boyfriend.

Henry. Oh, yeah. This little prick. And wearing this out, it's a sexy schoolgirl out. It's a Halloween sexy school girl. You do not have to be this obvious about like, teenage boys, please come see the movie.

Enjoy the movie, please. It is hilarious that she's dressed like that through the entire film. I don't know, maybe get a pair of sweatpants on. Your home's being invaded. Exactly. Your boyfriend's over, whatever. Maybe you're putting out a show. You're having a good time. Sure.

He leaves. Let's get some sweatpants. It's purge night. I'm not in the mood to be all dolled up on purge night. You need to be comfy and like looser. Looser clothes. You can jump around faster. Exactly.

You grab an axe or something, you know. And also what? Yeah. you need you need you need that like flexibility and what is Ethan Hawk doing's setting this like three two one I I would be like everybody's got to be home at 1 p.m. we're we're shutting down early for birch day. You know why he's doing three to one is that's the date of the purge 321 it's 7 p.m. Oh wow. Oh wow. Yeah that's why they came up with it as a countdown apparently in the screenplay. Sure. It's right like oh it's three to one. Oh, it's good.

None of it's scary. So yeah, he comes home and he's like, honey, I got great news, but I'll tell you at dinner. I got other stuff to deal with. He does announce that Zoe's boyfriend is too old for her and like it's over 18, therefore he's too old. And he's like, she better not be seeing that boy. Unless it's tonight. Yeah, I guess that's true. This is the one night of you.

Oh, great. I might actually go out tonight. Hey, honey. Oh, hi. Yeah, a teacher. Yeah, I know that, like, you think that I told, I absolutely did plagiarize my paper. But I have a video of me plagiarizing it on purge tonight. So here's the newspaper. Proof of life of when I plagiarized the paper. That's genius. They should do a Purge college movie that's like, you know, like a boob comedy. Yes. You get boob shenanigans. You get cheating on the finals. Purge Delta House or whatever. Oh, absolutely. No, you see we stole the camp. We stole the. We stole the. pig during purge night you got it drunk during purge

night hello that sounds like a pig being purged and then you got this son speaking of you gotta kill him you just have to kill him disgusting shit Charlie is this little kid and he's introduced

with this Sid from toy story little machine that he's got with this burn doll's head I'm not even a toy story ahead but I couldn't stop thinking about that movie during this movie with this fucking terror this this this this this doll that's attached to an RV car or whatever we're just trying to add horror elements like I don't know is that scary like I don't know it's kind of gross that might

scare someone put it in the movie I guess it's RC car remote control RV car is something Robin Williams drives with his family to a nice vacation yeah called RV that then ends up topsy turvy on a mountain top that's that's a rooster that goes tits up if you could believe never saw it but I understand it would recreational vehicle there. That's right. That's right. I mean, the kid if I kind of wish he was more Sid-like, like he just doesn't have any

person out. He's just kind of like, this is bad. Exactly. And like any like complexity to this kid. Because you only give me these characters by the way. I don't get anything else. So like these should be a little bit more interesting and I mean the daughter should be

more than her outfit, but you're not doing that either. I mean, yeah, the kids would be a more interesting angle if they were outside of the house. Maybe the daughter sneaks out to see the boyfriend. That's something. Oh, she left the house. Now I, Ethan Hark, the father, have to go out into the dangerous night to find her. That's at least something. Or if the whole movie is, again, about, you know, like, we're hunting the homeless and that's what this whole economic boom is. Center it on the, on the homeless guy. Yep. And then he goes to Ethan Hawks.

Right. You know what I mean? Like blue ruins. Here's an idea, Steve. Why don't we give that guy a name? What an interesting idea And that's the thing That's why like I don't buy it With this budgetary excuse Like sure you had a low budget But like you can do things Outside with a low budget

You just had a bad script man I'm sorry That's all you had was a bad script And a fucking one note idea Because if you start with him And like maybe he's like shit It's the purge What shelters are open

I can't get to a shelter Oh my God It's purge night And then like he has to run To the wealthy neighborhood Because he knows it's safer Yep that's a movie that indeed indeed how about that and that's what the fucking move the movies are from

here on out is they have that kind of is that right that's the whole fucking day they're like oh better setup better set immediately they're like oh this was fucking stupid let's do it the other way and get them outside although i do love the idea of Ethan hawk being like oh you want to oh boy outside i don't know Rick link later i'm in the middle of boyhood uh I need to be back in wherever we are very soon Oh no he was a believer on this project He was really Because I think that I guess he knew

Blumhouse and he knew the director from from assault So he did Jason Blum is that he His name is Jason Blumhouse I like call it a Blumhouse Mr. Blumhouse He slept on couches He only got 10 grand

But he wound up making more money For this movie in back end stuff That's how you do it Yeah all the perch toys and stuff So now Chris you saw the other movies now the bloody stranger which is what this guy's credit as he becomes more of a character

he's in one of the others he's in the third one apparently I read that in the trivia he comes back but like it's really Frank Grillo is the star of these movies oh Frank Grillo gets a step I'm not going to say step up but we're doing a step it's a step these are his kinds

of movies exactly the kind of thing election year and anarchy are the two best ones. I like the first purge a lot, but it's not centralized. It's much more everywhere kind of thing. But those two are Frank Brillo action movies

and as such are fantastic. That's the thing because at the heart of this you have hunting humans for sport. Yes. Which is a genre I love. Oh yeah. This is just so piss poorly executed and told from the wrong end. Exactly. Because if it was hunting

humans for sport, it would be so clear like this is what they do. They hunt the homeless and oh my God and that's how the GDP goes up man and like but no but meanwhile we've got you know the boyfriend and the neighbors and whatever else and people just at the neighbor next door just shave sharpening a machete like you know like it's like all that stuff that you're like all right it's it's kind of it you know the first sort of glance at it you're like oh that's eerie yes but then that immediately washes away because this movie presupposes it's like those Looney Tunes cartoons with the sheep dog

and the wolf like that like we're just like we punch in it's like morning Sam morning Ralph and they fight each other and then they punch out and see you tomorrow Ralph like that doesn't make any goddamn sense though no like that set up was kind of like okay so the neighbor's got this welding mask on he's like sharpening this

machete I needed to see a guy in a welding mask yes slashing people by the end of the movie never ever happens I guess he might be one of the other neighbors that comes by at the end but he never uses that weapon no he doesn't And the thing is, I think it would register more as eerie if we saw a little bit more notes of that. Yeah. Rather than like trying to underline how much of a big shot fucking Ethan Hawke is at the office,

which is something I don't give a fuck about. I truly don't care. And like, he's going to tell me he got a promotion later. And there's a big scene where he talks about like, I'm number one on the board. See, that's the thing is they're trying to give us that human moment of like, this is this family and this is this guy that's doing well at business. But it's so undefined that comes off completely artificial. Exactly. And the only other seat that they plan here before we get into the house for the lockdown is the neighbors come over and the one lady is like, oh, say, Mary, rumor has it that your husband's sales this year paid for that addition on your house. And also you got Chris Mulkey. Yes. Doing shit all nothing. He has my favorite line at the end of the movie, though, which is great. But yeah, so it's like him and his wife and then other neighbor lady just kind of dropping by. have a good purr. Other neighbor ladies. Yeah, so the cookies, by the way, poison cookies, you think? What do you think?

I hope so. Yeah, but they'd have to come with a note, right? It's like, don't eat these cookies till after 7 p.m. or I'm getting sent up the river. Marsha, I know what you're trying. Nice try. Oh, this isn't my first purge garbage. What is this, 1997?

But the other neighbor lady, it's really important, is black. And it's like, then what? It makes much more, it's crisper and it's more what you're trying to talk about if most of those people are white, hunting a black person. You know what I mean? Like having the black lady and making it more about like class, I get what you're saying. Yes, but you have to lean into class more than. Exactly.

You can't do both. And like it's very clearly what they're hunting. And it kind of annoys me later too. Like they keep calling the guy in Ethan Hawks house that homeless pig, that homeless pig. swine and it's like just built like don't i don't want the nuclear one but you having a slur in there would make actually sense in clarifying what we're talking about sure but the movie doesn't know what it wants to talk about so that's why all of these things just are are thrown out there and it's like whatever you think it is we're saying you better believe that's what we're saying

it's pretty dark isn't it huh pretty bad yep exactly uh so yeah we have this dinner scene where Ethan Hawk is like, oh, I had my division sold the most security cyst and I'm like, I just don't care. It's like 1950s parlance practically. What is he a traveling salesman? Like is the boss coming over for dinner? Hell, I would love

that. Welcome that. That'd be a fun purge. That would be a cool thing if literally like the inside was as detailed as in 1950s, like appointed, cleaned like that. Right. To show that we're going back. but like, you're not the pastiche. Yeah, yeah. Anything to give you some.

That's the other thing is it's just like directed like shit. Like it doesn't look good and like there's one or two like the the machete sharpening scene I thought was well done and like with the the kids sneaking out. That's before not sneaking out. That's three seconds of film. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Three seconds of this 85 minute movie.

Trying to say something positive. No, no. I agree. To that point like Andrew was saying, it's too dark. I mean, and that's what you're setting it. night and the house like your house is already under assault is it really is it hurting to have the lights on like you know what I mean well that's it's annoying that they cut the power but oh yes the generator what do you do exactly that should be part of the goddamn security

security guy yes like oh wait so they they just cut the power that's it yeah well that would also be an interesting idea is if you found out halfway through this like Ethan Hawke gets on the phone with his boss or something and he finds out they're all bunk they're fucking garbage they don't do what they're supposed to do I'd like that at least get you something to build on that would actually build on that the neighbors could be fucking mad at that actually more than just having more money yeah I bought your

security system someone broke in and killed my kid or whatever fucked my dog all does come back to that in the background of the movie guy going door to door fucking every dog there's only one dude that's into bestiality but he's really good at

oh yeah you know what I mean he gets around. I feel like the neighborhood would have to rally together to kill that guy. You can't fucking find him. He's so good at him. It'd be like M then.

He's totally naked. He's greased up. He's ready to go at all times. And he will fuck your dog or your cat. Come and your fish tank. Whatever he needs to do. I've been there. Poor fish.

Eating that up. Not knowing what it is. The notion of, oh, Chris. Oh, Chris. Oh, Chris. Wait, wait. Chris, do that again real quick.

They're not. No, we just wants, just wants. For private, I'll do it. Oh. No. But, no, so the thing that I find hysterical about these freaks cut the power to their house is like, Ethan Hawk comes up and he's like, all right, look, I don't know if you can tell from the outset. I got a really huge, weird house here. I can't find shit. We're trying to find this guy. And they're like, got it. Cut the power. So you can't have lights to fight. I'm like, what? Think about any of this screenplay. None of this. this makes sense. You're so bad.

You're so bad. The screenplay is so bad because there's so many specifics that go nowhere. When we meet Chloe and her boyfriend, Henry, they're making out. Zoe, sorry. And they're making out. And then he's like, you know, we don't say I love you. Let's growl at each other. And they do this really stupid thing where they growl instead of saying, I love you, that never comes back.

No. The kid writes a weird short story about a man who loves so much. It kills people. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Because that's at the dinner scene. where he's like, Ethan Hawks like, I want to hear about everyone's day. Yes. And I mean that as a father. Listen, we got to spread. I need 10 minutes now to make, get this to 80.

Yes. We can't, we can't just be talking about Houdini the dog rapist. We can't be doing that. We have to talk about other things. We all know how clever and masterful. Houdini isn't what he does. But I'm sick of bringing this guy up at the dinner table.

I just, we all have money on him. We know, we all know whose dog's going first. Yeah, that's cool. it would be he's out there oiled up you know completely nude he comes across the freaks who try to kill him and then he slips away slipping around them he's slapping his boner in their

head laughs into the night oh he's like that Coney 2012 guy just naked slapping the fucking sidewalk yeah dude cacotta ask your kids about that ask your grandparents about the the Coney 2012 and he never he won't kill anybody though because he just all he wants to do is

rape animals no don't be scared now don't be scared now I'm just here to You're fucking dogs. Murder is morally repudnant. I don't know. Come here, check out. I'm about love. It's all about love.

I love my brothers, my animal brothers, and my human brothers. This is the only night I could be who I am. Just let me live. Oh, you got a pot-belly pig. Oh, I'm going to see you on Purge that, paper boy. Houdini's going to have a fun purge with you. You got a date on Purge night. Holy shit.

That would definitely be happening. No. No. get inside. Here comes Houdini. Even I can't stop him. That guy's too damn good at what he does. Houdini on the next page, you're going to be terminated. Don't worry about it. We're going to get Houdini on the Schwarzenegger cast. And we're going to talk to him about his deeds.

No, no, I would never steal a car. That's just, why would you do that to somebody? Oh, my God. Watch a bootleg movie. That's repugnant. Terrible. Schnelly run. They work so hard on those pictures. Nope. All update them attacks is quarterly and otherwise.

No, but so the kid is like today in school, I wrote a short story about a man who loves so much as hard exploded, like, whatever it is. And I guess that's designed to tell you like, well, this little boy ain't built for the purge. Yeah, I would guess so. But then why does you have the creepy doll then? It's two, you're right. It's like kind of two kids in one because that's a real. He's not only does he have the creepy doll on the RC car. he's got the little hideaway

in his closet. You just move this wall and there's all sorts of stories. I think you're supposed to say, I think he's on the fence. Like he could become a purge boy very easily. But maybe he's not killing. Maybe he could go get an apprenticeship with Houdini.

Well, that's exactly what I think Ethan Hawk is thinking about now. He's trying to find. Oh, I got to raise a little killer so he doesn't go around fucking all sorts of horses and whatnot. It's a coin flip. It's the two kinds of purge people, really.

But there's, uh, we learn like just, again, they're just throwing you like little itty bitty tidbits about like the culture around this, right? So he's like, all right, family, now we got to get into the room with all the monitors

for the lockdown to start. And you hear mentions of like, oh, Sue's having her annual purge party. And they didn't get invited. And I'm like, for the love of God, cut to what a purge party looks like for two seconds. Just two little seconds. I feel like that's the Ornania club. We're all masturbating

to the television. Oh, honey, you get the 9-11 footage ready. Oh, my God, that's the one. Dude, we need to institute the purge so that Tom Six can release the Onani Club. Just one purge, and then he releases the Onani Club and then it ends. Ornani Club screening, one night only. Let's go. No, of course, I would never kill anybody.

I just want to scream the Onaniaclm. Oh, Houdini, get out of here. This is ridiculous. That's my old friend Houdini. We've known each other for many years. My next movie is going to be about. It's a biopic of Houdini, not the Houdini you know, my Houdini. Yeah, dude, that's Ooth.

I'm going to turn the biopic on its head. It's a biopic about someone you've never heard of. It's a great idea. It's the one night of the year. You can release the Anania Club, never again. And he should do it. We see his, Ethan Hark has like this, it's kind of a futuristicly lit gun closet. Sure.

I've never seen a gun closet with purple light. like this kind of nice. I mean, this is 2013, so we are in the in the not too distant future. We're having a little bit of fun with some some things are a little different. If you're worried about science facts and how they eat and breathe on purge night, you're overthinking it. It's just purge nice. Just go with it. All right. But like he takes out a gun or whatever. I can't, honey, the security system. I used it to build my

robot friends. The invention exchange. Yes. This is made to kill as many freaks as possible once they enter the yard. So you're telling me that our security system was built out of a gumball machine. That's when they shot Joel Robinson into space was on Purge night. They're like, oh, come in here, Joel.

It's the one night, it's fine. So, wait. Wow, I guess it's legal. All right. Is he supposed to look like a crow? Or what's the... Just get in the spaceship. Okay.

I said, get it. But no, so the kid is looking. And he's like, but dad, what about the security system? And he's like, it's just a precaution, son. And like, okay, he's got guns in the house. And also, FYI, this kid is too young to have the key, the key number. That is for mommy and daddy only. Maybe Zoe, because she's like, 17.

But little, little Charlie with the creepy fucking dolls, he does not have a security you got to like, I don't know, what are you going to do? Tie up his hands or glue them together or something. You know what? You know what this kid fiddling on Purchase? I don't want, first and foremost, I think we got to take the batteries out of the demented little fucking car. That thing needs to go because you don't know. That thing could be going to Zoe's room.

That could be going any which way you want, brother. Yep. And also, like, there is the one, you've got your normal, regular, regular, secular Saturday night security system. Charlie could have that when he comes back from baseball. He puts in his birthday. You're a cute little ADD security system. But Purge night is for dad only. One dude with the code

Because you're right That would solve all of this And blessed there would be no movie That would be nice I would prefer that The kids ask it like You know mom and dad Like why don't you participate

In the purge And they're like well If we felt the urge to do so Maybe we would do something about it But we're holier than now I don't have to You know But the purge saved our country

And it's like all right So you are like kind of brainwashed But like Yes I guess not all because that's what They're moderates, they're centrist. I see. Well, I mean, again, that's the thing, right? It's like all this movie can come up with,

as we've been having quite a lot of fun talking about already, there's no alternatives. The only crime that they can come up with is murder in this movie. And you're a serial killer, creepy fuck murder or nothing. Like stabbing a kid and licking the blood off the knife kind of shit. Well, because we're coming

right off the end of torture porn era. Yes, yes. It's right the last one, really. And actually, the changeover, between this and the other and the other purge movies is kind of shows that distinction and like we're getting more towards action mixed with horror is a bigger

thing and also I mean we never get there quite but like prestige horror talking about trauma the first purge does feed into a lot of that stuff. Of course it's and I mean it does it better than most I would say purging because I cried that one time.

No no no I mean like like what people go through on the first purge that made them want to. Oh, I could see that. I could see like if I have a rough purge night. Yeah. Oh, look out. Yeah. Stuff like that. And like, but like this is just like you're

watching people like, and I'm saying this and like it's not even doing the torture porn right. None of it is like interesting or like cruel in any way. Well, we are sure to shove a knife in this black man's wound. Sure. That one. I'll tell you what, Chris Gavin. There's one fellow that gets tortured.

quite a bit in this movie. And it's going to shock you as to which one. It was the letter opener, which is fine. Oh, a letter opener. Oh, pardon me. Pardon me. It's allowed. It's purge. I do. Purged to the next. Oh, wait. I just not have another question about the purge, by the way. Maybe the sequels get into the logistics a little more. Are we dealing with time zones? That's a great question. It's a joke in one of them. Oh, is that right? But I don't think they really, I don't think they really do anything with it. They just, like, somebody has an off answer.

Because, like, California purge, you know. New York's been going on for fucking three hours or hours. That's, I mean, I always think of when that stuff comes up, I think of the Gremlins 2 joke about that because they, they literally in the thing, they're like, well, what about time zones? If he eats food at this point. That's right. That's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you could just. You could do a road trip movie going through all the time zone. We got, oh, dude, that's what it is. We got to get to the next time zone where the purge hasn't started yet or where it's over. Yeah, I'm just getting started. I feel like, by the way, all the time zones, this and that,

I feel like Hawaii and Alaska just don't do the purge. You guys want to just not do it? Yeah, that's like, that's for them continental fuckers. Lower 48. They passed that law. That's fucking weird.

You want to just not do it. Yeah. I mean, Hawaii specific, they've already had a few purges there. They're not exactly named that. It seems like they'd have fun with it. Problems for, yeah. Helicopters, like,

instead of just shooting wolves, you can shoot like people. yeah and it's spookier too because it's all that open area you know yeah yeah i could see that werewolves and bigfoot's up there that would be an interesting way if we're going to try to revitalize the series like get it out there where it is sparser you get to have a moodyer setting at least well do we have like is there any you know well no like any notion of a uh oh yeah someone who's going to legally kill someone and they make a phone call on a cheeseburger phone the moldy purchase you know i think you met the city i'm at the city of juno alaska

You know, let's say Fairbanks. No, is there any indication ever of like the purges going global? I think that there is, I was reading some Wikipedia nonsense that they might want to do that in the future. Like, because obviously, you know what? How about not? What else are you going to do with the stupid idea? Gotta keep doing it. Well, I don't know.

Jason Vorty's pretty much for the most part stuck to Crystal Lake for the better of those movies. So, you know. But we don't allow. I mean, we don't even get to do that anymore. Like, is Terrifier the version of that? I guess. Like, don't do, like, do the same thing with the killer, just slightly change the, like, we just don't do that anymore.

Full on Slasher. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that, I'll never see that terrifier, too. That was horrible more than enough. Horrible. More than enough. So whatever, lockdown starts.

Lockdown starts. And everybody kind of like, it's this weird thing. We're like, again, I do feel like it should be a panic room situation. We're all in this. You know what, dude? We'll all be here. I want to just make sure. everybody's safe. I know we have the security

system. We got a big room here. We'll watch the movies, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, oh, wait, we're going to curate the, the DVD playlist for Perj night. Charlie wants to watch Shrek, and then we'll watch Mean Girls for Zoe, and then mom and dad will want, but like, surviving the game, just kidding.

A little triggering. Man, you're just fucking getting killed in the street and you just hear, now I'm a believer. From the fucking house. I'm taking a shit. Oh, yeah, well, I'm getting murdered, Shrek. How about that?

I'm bleeding out. Thank you, donkey. I hope you guys are having a great time watching your Shrek TVD. Your last words. Meanwhile, Lena Hedy. This stunned me. She has, she serves dinner, you know, to her family. There's some joke about like, oh, there's no carbs in this.

She's drinking wine. She's drinking like two glasses of wine. Good for her. And then she gets on the treadmill. I was like, what's going to happen to her, man? She's going to yak. Speaking of purge. Yeah, she's just an alcoholic.

Yeah, that just gets her started. Well, speaking to that, I think she also probably just wants to die. I mean, if you're putting all this inside you and, like, seeing this day to day, I would kind of want to die because that's also kind of an interesting thing. I'd be so loaded on Perched out. You don't want to know. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't even know where you're being murdered.

Exactly. Like, you think you're going to the bathroom. Some guy stabbing your dick on you on. Sir, could you be afraid right now? What? Yeah. I'm getting stabbed by a guy to go. That's Andrew, is that you?

Does Andrew usually kill you? I don't know. How you think you can take me, huh? It's not fun if he's not scared. He's not scared at all. I think this is a great strategy. Big blackout drunk on Perch night. You just walk the street.

You know, maybe you'd be too far gone. People will leave you alone, maybe. I mean, it's the easiest fucking thing in the world. I get that. But, like, have one of them be addicted to pills or something. Like, something to show that, like, yes, actually this stuff is. eating away at them and not just in the class way and like personal way.

Yeah. If mom's doing rails in the bathroom, that's kind of an interesting thing, right? You know what I mean? But it's what's annoying though is like she has some spiel to the kid about why it is good or whatever. That is why he is, I think it's around when he asks like, why don't you participate it? And it's like, you can't have like, it should be a thing where it's like, no, we don't say this outside of this house. But this is really fucked up and wrong. And your father and I don't agree with it. And yes, we do make a lot. lot of money off of it, but that's, you settle that out on your own time. There's some people in this country, honey, you do not want to meet. Like, that kind of a thing.

So very quickly, Zoe goes up to her room and Henry is there. Oh, oh. And I thought for a second, I never seen this movie before, I'm like, oh, okay, so it's going to be a thing where like the dad's trying to kick Henry out, but you can't because how can you kick somebody out? Sure. During the purge. Purge night tenant rights. You know, squatters rights, I mean. But no, he's like, I just, you know, I came here, Zoe. I just, I wanted to talk to your dad. And like, she's like, I don't know if it's going to be a good, it's going to be a great idea.

And it's so stupid. You're like, you can see it a mile away. Just like, oh, really? You wait until purge night to hide in the house to make sure you're locked in and you're just going to talk to the guy. What is his plan here? So I'm going to kill her dad. Yep.

And then like the mom's going to be like, yay. And like, she's going to, then Zoe's going to give you a blow job. But then we'll be, we'll have a great fucking weekend. You got to build this up. Like you got to have there's dialogue of like, you know, like all those classic beautiful stories about people who like, you know, the boyfriend will kill the bad land. Badlands. Yes, of course.

You got to do, you know, build that up. That could be something, right? Where it's like they have a conversation about like, like, yeah, they are in on it. And she's like, I hate my dad so much. Yeah. He's trying to keep me away from. And like, if that's, if she's like sick in the head like that too, that's at least a thing in a movie. No, but she's in a schoolgirl outfit the entire

movie. She's just... No personality. Innocent young girl, she's property, basically. You know what I mean? It's... She's a fucking couch in this movie. No, yeah. I prefer the year next scheme. A couch with knee-high stockings on the entire time.

Oh, man. Twelve straight hours looking like a school girl. No, no, no. It makes sense. It makes sense that she's still wearing it. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. Actually, no, that skirt is a little too long thing. Just a little. All right. That's what I had, man.

Yeah, there we go. That's, that's purge appropriate attire, honey. But, yeah, so, like, that's what's going on. Mom's working out. And meanwhile, there's, like, there's a commotion in the road. And this is when we see the bloody stranger. And this is, it's kind of an interesting reveal is, like, the little boys watching the television sets. And you just see a guy running down the street on the camera. Kind of like a jump scare almost, yeah. Yeah. And, like, he's clearly. being chased or whatever and you're like all right like that's well let's get a little let's get ready to get eerie yes yeah it's like kind of the last time that happens almost he starts screaming out

somebody going to help me oh my god they're chasing me i can't you know i'm not going to make it blah blah blah you you have to help me and this little kid goes and again the code should not he should not have this code he just beep boobops this thing in like it's not the first time he's even entered the number like maybe it's a thing where like you have it you have a quick shot of him like rustling through Ethan Hawks desk or something and he finds like a piece of paper in the back of a drawer and it's like let's try this

and he beep boops and then oh yeah it opened that would be something but what you have to do is you got to drug your children on Purge night right? Yes yes. It's not like a full coma but like a good heavy situation you know nothing crazy. Just some tussin mom's going to make her famous

purge night soup guys it's going to be great you can't investigate it's legal on Purge night to drug your family. What's that thing that's in Turkey and red wine? Triptophan. Exactly. You got to drug your kids. Just a little bit. Because you know this kid probably beforehand

was just, once he got the code, he was letting that barrier up just to let like stray cats in. Just like in the middle of the night. Oh, Houdini might get that guy. Mom. We don't need more victims out there. What are you doing, Charlie? Now Houdini's after us. He's going to get in. The security system It's made for Houdini.

You know what? What he's done with all the animals in the house? Like our cats and dogs. We're animals too, Charlie. We're animals too. I didn't know that fellow living person here would hide my, my property in there with y'all. Fellow living person. Why don't you all let me in there and have my property back so I can fuck that cat?

Why don't you just let me fuck my cat? I wanted to fuck my cat and then you just let him in there. You took my cat. If you don't let me in by. the time my friend shows up with his tools, I'm going to fuck your whole family. And you don't want me fucking your whole family.

Do you have a goldfish? I'll do it to him too. I'm going to come right in that fish tank if you don't let me in there right now. I'll come in the fish tank and I'll actually fuck the fish. I'll see if that works probably won't. I see right behind you. You got a little urn.

I'm going to come in your grandma's urn. That's what I'm going to do. It's purged that baby. I just you try to catch me. I got a new layer of grease on me. Well, if he can get to it, he earned it. Oh, yes. Excellent.

So while this dude runs into the house and pretty quickly just vanishes into the house. It's a big house, Andrew, I guess. I keep forgetting it's a big house. Listen, we don't know where he went. The house is a labyrinth. I live in a goddamn maze, all right? It is. I mean, you could.

I need sheriff's the goblin king to direct me to the refrigerator. That's how big the house is. It's the purge with the power. Did you bribe the minotaur? or not. That was what you're supposed to do to get to the bathroom. Honey, I can't find my sack of coins to cross the basement river. Oh, no, it's the fire gang.

It's just, he's just gone. He's just gone into the house. And at the same time, this is when this boyfriend chooses to strike. And he comes out the room and he's got a gun. And he shoots at Ethan Hawk. Ethan Hawk, no questions asked blast this kid right in the stomach. Oh, yeah, you got to do it. There's no other choice.

The problem with Ethan Hawke is every choice that he makes is totally logical in this position that he's in. You know what I mean? Even when he's like going to give this guy up for his family. Like I don't know, 88% of people would probably do that. You know what I mean? Like probably. I don't know. Oh my God.

This guy I don't know versus my entire family getting murdered in the most horrible way. I'd probably do that. Like there's no real like stakes if all of the decisions are that easy. You know what to be? Like, oh my God. killed a kid. It's like, yeah, he shot at you first. You know what I mean? As opposed to like, oh, that little fucking shithead, it's Perj night, baby.

You know what I mean? That's true. He's a good person despite... Yeah, I mean, you want to keep your protagonists likable or whatever. Sure, yeah. I mean, just throw them out in the fucking, you know, outside. You're fine. You know, nobody's going to come ask them questions. Dude, it would be like Vulcan logic, man.

It's just straight up the needs of the many outweigh the needs that if you get the fuck out of here, bloody stranger. Exactly. It just, it's pretty an easy decision to make. Yeah. So, yeah, this kid goes up, like collapses in the daughter's bedroom or whatever and dies. And then this is where I realized this stupid, like, habit they were going to have with the house here because he says to, like, I think it's like Lena Heady and the sun. He's like, all right, you guys stay here.

I have to go find Zoe. And I'm like, I'll give you a clue, Ethan Hawke. She's in the house still. the problem. It's too big. I have the tracker on her. Okay. So she's in quadrant five. We're going to have to make it. We'll go to the basement through the tunnels.

He's coming right up for us. Honey, honey, I'm going to go. You find, you find Zoe. I'll find this stranger. And honestly, you're right. This is too much house. This is actually, it's too much house. It's honestly, now that I'm realizing it, now that there are multiple people hiding and we cannot find them, it's just too

much house. You were right. You were right. We did not need that edition. This is embarrassing. Do you want to check the attic apartment? Because I could do that, but I feel weird about it. Is the Fonz still living up there? Bitch. So, yeah, he.

Two salarians. One of those Cunningham boys went missing on a purge night. Yeah, Chuck Cunningham, dude, he went upstairs and got purged. Never came back to again. They purged him right from that show. Ham, the little sister from Boy Meets World. She got the axe. Oh, really? Wow.

Judy from Family Matters got purged. I think she came back, but she was purged for a while. She was purged, and I think when she came back, it may have been a different person. Not the woman who got wrapped up in some low-rent pornography. Oops. Yeah, that happened.

He has a big oops. Yeah, so whatever. That guy's dead. We're trying to find bloody stranger in the house or whatever. Zoe winds up fine. It's like a freaking open door farce here. Ethan Hawks like, I got to go find Zoe.

He runs out. Zoe runs into the room like, Mom, I can't believe it. Henry's dead or whatever it is. And she's like, did you see your father out there? And it's like, why, no, I did it? I was like, come on. But I guess she's like, she's afraid. She thinks, I guess she's just like,

A, traumatized by the death of her boyfriend, but B, I think she's like, she thinks she's in trouble. I guess is her motivation for the rest of the movie. You're not getting in trouble, baby. It's the purge. So she's just like, Mom, I got to go. And like, I don't know. I'm looking at a hetty. I'm putting this girl in a headlock.

I don't, I don't hit my kids, except on purge. night. You know what it? He's like, yes, hit him and drug him. But yeah, I, I gotta go find him and did you see him out there? It's just, it's all so stupid. It really is. So anyway, while all this is going on, the little boy is like, hey, I've been watching the monitor outside. This gang of weirdos is coming up to the house. Yes. One of the biggest mistakes this movie makes as it pathetically attempts to be scary in any way is these freaks walk up to the door and they've, got like douchebag masks on or whatever. Puppet, puppet looking masks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Closer to puppet, yeah. Yeah, closer than a douchebag. There's two bags underneath the mask.

Yes. But like, the crucial mistake is the guy, the leader, takes the mask off from the jump. And I'm like, all right, well, they're just people under there. And it's not really that scary anymore. So, well, it's to tell you, like, this just, this, not Michael Pitt can fucking,

any person you walk down the street can do it. Your mention of funny games was good, because it's like the clean. cut preppy kid like what wait what even him even him what he's gonna break the narrative what yeah and he knows people that have

equipment which is arriving we'll get to it in 30 minutes ill-defined equipment it's it's it's earl's van with the chain essentially it's all it takes and I mean like the thing is like I don't understand like okay yeah it's purge night

you know we we love to purge but we're gonna be eerie about it. Then like the girls are on the swigs and it's like oh man isn't that eerie? What is this? What purpose are they serving right here? Again, the strangest it made sense. It was just three people and they were torturing two people and the whole point was to terrify

and eventually murder them and that's the whole movie and that's what's so I think I read something about the Purge having like oh since it's a yearly event it sort of became like Halloween and be fun to dress up on that night which I think maybe the director had said in some interview I'm not too sure. You got you got a put that in your movie, man. I'm sorry. Otherwise, it doesn't. That's out of bounds. That doesn't

count if you have to tell me after the fact. It would make more sense to tell me stuff like that than tell me that government officials ranking class 10. Something that doesn't come into play in the movie at all. So it doesn't matter. You're totally right. No, I mean, I just... I'm the New Jersey governor. Thank you very much. Like what? I'm already doing crime.

That's the senator. Yeah, Bob Menendez is like, oh, I got to lose the night. I can put more gold bars in my mattress. Are you purging your gold bars, because I'll take those. Honey, start sewing all those cash wads into the comforters. No, yeah, it's Cuba's fault I did it.

Yeah. On Purge night, it's Cuba's fault. I did it. Sorry. But so, if it's like Halloween, like, my wife and I, and I think a lot of people, like, you know, the whole month of October, we get really into Halloween. We'll watch horror movies all months. So for like, in the month of March when I'd be watching a bunch of stuff films

all months long, get geared up. So it's 8mm, 8mm, 2. The zoo, the documentary. You count video drone, I assume. Video drone, hardcore with George C. Scott. Anything that dabbles on the periphery of like snuff potentiality. Sure, sure, sure.

Yeah, you get those in there. That's a letterbox list someone's going to make. Is it a pruder film? There's a lot. Henry Portrait of a serial killer just to kind of. I mean, it's almost there. The Bud Dwyer video, of course. Another classic of the genre.

Hey, Mara. It's November. What are you shooting at me for? It's not to March. You're, uh, get a calendar fuck face. What is all this, uh, Manhattan clam chowder doing in my lap? Oh, whoop. Oh, boy.

Can someone tell that jerk off up there what month it is? Oh, my God. Because it was November 22nd. It was. And this is in March 22nd. Yeah, you got to just wait four more months and you can just get it. Calendar mix up. Yeah, classic.

It's just real calendar snap. Whoop's there. Wops, misread the calendar, you see. It seems the shooter who took the president's life had a spooky mask on. Looked like a doll almost. But to your point, Chris, about like, oh, it's to show that like there's people underneath or whatever. To toss that another way, like the strangers, there's never any doubt that they're just people.

Yes. And they keep that shit on the. the whole time and it stays eerie because of that. I think that's just a difference of making the stamp like the strangers, it's not so much about the society at large in this it is. So

seeing people's face is a point of it as compared to that where it's like, you're in the middle of fucking nowhere with Liv Tyler and you have these three weirdos and Glenn Howarding gets a shotgun right to the jaw. It's a beautiful time. It's been a long time since in that movie. You know, I've seen that movie one time. Yeah. And it was when you and I

saw it at Union Square. It was a rowdy crowd that night. It was fun. Dude, well, it was... It was a packed house, Chris. It was a rowdy crowd for that movie. Well, here's why... Here's why... I don't know who told the story on the air before. They do, yeah. But we the weekend that that

first Strangers movie came out was the same weekend that the first Sex and the city movie came out. Yes. And what happened, Eric and I were sitting in the theater and what happened was clearly there were sold-out shows of Sex in the City. Yeah. And all these girls that came dressed up

as the characters. Yes, they were dressed like sex in the city ladies. They got shut out and it was like, we're going to the purge, I guess. So we're sitting in front of like a bunch of Samantha's and whatnot. And they just, they were like, I guess just so keyed in for that movie that they were overly excited. They were afraid of the strangers. They were jumping out of their seats. I mean, it's a scary movie, but they were like screaming, kicking the shit out of our seats. They were probably a little drunk, which maybe we were too. They had a couple too many Cosmos before the movie. Well, yeah, I mean, you're going to see another scary movie and you get shut out of that one. Oh, sorry, sir, yes, it is the Alamo Draft House. You can use your, you put your light down. He's allowed to talk. It's the Purge Night.

We are open on Purge Night. Yes, they're allowed to talk back to the screening. You'll notice that gentleman just entered in. This movie's been going for 45 minutes. He just showed up. Dude, the false narrative that those people will do anything about talking in the field. he might also blow your head off. That's also

possible. If you get strangled during this, that is on you and the person. Brains in my caseo. So whatever. That's $2 extra. It's a movie party. Oh, yeah. It's a dialogue.

You know what you can do with those. No better way for me not to show it up to a repertory screening. It's the two words movie party. Oh, I will stay right at home. almost as bad as being out during the purge going to a fucking movie party. That's one thing I don't want to party with. That's fine.

So this fucking Heath Ledger knockoff guy here is Australian this fella. This actor that's the freak, the lead freak. They cast him because his eerie smile. I think he's actually pretty good if there's any performance to praise or even to

hold on to, it has to be his because nobody does anything else. Here's how I'm holding on to it. So this performance is like an arm outstretched to me as I hang off the cliff and I'm slowly

sliding down this dude's like hoodie arm you know what I mean? No totally. I am just barely holding on to this dude as a character and it's all this like

oh hello there our target escaped us in my being here and he's got this like shit eating smile and like I get it but it just it's a lot.

It's a lot. Something about it just because yeah because like everything else is so like reserved and they're downplaying everything. Even when the kid like comes out of the room trying to kill Ethan Hawke, it's not like as cartoonish as this guy.

And I'm like, hey man, I know it's the purge and everything's legal and whatnot, but this performance is against the law dial it back. And the women are in like baby doll dresses doing cartwheels. They're like la la la, and I read this was like Manson family inspired. Hey, cool. But that's like the thing is that they don't ever do that would help all. of this is to discuss the artifice. Like, if they're

watching, if you watch these guys watch those movies or like Reed Manson or anything like that to suggest that they are purposely putting on a show. There are opportunities that the beginning of the movie has for that, but instead they choose to have the, because like, Ethan Hawke

is watching, like, I think he like, pours himself a drink and he's like watching a television special and it's like, this was to, the purge was designed to stamp out a America's rage problem. Leave that stuff out of it and put in like the purge is so successful

that people have purge parties and people have purge costumes and blah, blah, blah. Who's gonna outdo who this week? It just feels like every other scene is missing or something. Like, Shari, Shara, Jack, you didn't check your calendar.

That was 321, baby. You got to let me go. Me and my friends are gonna get, skate, we killed those bingies, but it's 321. It was 321. Oh no, I showed up a day earlier to the purge party.

That's something. That's a fun thing. now I'm being arrested for carrying a machete in the street or something that's it you know would you be safe in lockup like if if you got arrested the day before the great question or would they just say like riot

you can guys you can guys riot riot is what you want I mean they throw knives that you did for fun kind of a thing that's another cool movie that could be something right purge and sell block 61 or something purge the big house

ooh purge call him the big house I like that dude yeah it's just it's just an 80 five minute hardcore prison riot yeah you can do it you get who's your best friend there Chris you like all that's Craig Zahler get him on there baby he'll do it why not

he'll do it and he'll do a good job is practically that already brawl on cell block 99 I mean it's pretty awesome I do like the moment where there's like the number two guy who's like screaming at the door like give us back our pig blah blah blah

like whatever and like this leader just shoots that guy in the head and he's like that guy was my friend. So you can see how aggravated I am about all this. Like, that's actually kind of an okay. Yeah, imagine what I'm going to do to your fucking family. And again, like, Ethan Hawk, there's, this is not a moral dilemma. It's like, of course I'm going to throw this guy out.

These people are psychopathic killers that are going to kill myself and my family. The real question is like, what would even happen if you open that door, right? Like, are they just going to be, you know, they could still. They're going to chill about it. Yeah. They can still come in, you know. Yeah. Well, because he, the guy tries to frame it as like, you can trust me because.

like we're affluent and educated and you're affluent and educated and we just want to kill this homeless pig we're not going to do nothing and like honestly it's probably true you know and until he says like you know you have such and such time

and then we're coming in and all bets are off if we have to come in the once Jerry gets here with his van and that chain I've been telling you about I mean this is be belatingly going against Steve on this one the thing is I don't feel like this performance does any for me. Sure. Like, it doesn't feel

like, like, the, killing the friend just like that. In a better movie, I'd be like, holy fucking shit, this guy means business. And this, I'm just like, he's just a kid doing the kid thing. Yeah. And like, if you want to make that the point, that's cool, lean into it. But that's not, they're

like trying to make him a Michael Pitt S. character where he's like haunting and like detached and like staring at you and being bratty. Ultimately, you need more time with these people. Yeah, that's right. Any of them. And what if it was a thing where we were just in a van with all those

people? As they were driving around, they see our bloody stranger friend there. You get their perspective of like, the hunt is on, you know, or whatever. That is what, that is again, what they do in the other ones. They fix it. They do

all this stuff. Did this Staten Island Wunderkind write some of these sequels? He wrote all of them, apparently. I think he's heavily involved. Did he write All of them. Yeah, I think so. Well, I guess someone got him like a storytelling tutor or something.

If these sequels are that much better. Because the rest of the movie is just Ethan Hawk on horseback with a lantern trying to find this guy in his house. It's like, is he in the living room? Dude, I thought I was watching the others. But this is the part, right? So he goes, if the guy's like, please just let us purge. And then he turns around and he's like, cut it, cut the power.

But he just said he's got a. find him in the house. Why would you do that? Why would you make it harder if you want to successfully be able to purge this guy by the end of the night? It's just a threatening move. Like this shows me mean business type of thing. Meanwhile, Zoe runs into Charlie's little robot there, which is so stupid. She's like, Charlie, I'm going to go in your hiding spot. But uh-oh, Charlie just put the other guy in the hiding spot. We have, dude, it is like watching paint dry. This sequence where this kid is trying to

use his little remote car to... Morris code or whatever. To say to the guy like come on, like get him to like follow me, follow this creepy ass RC car. And like here's that one of the things I think you were talking about with like pseudo future shit. This kid's got like Brett the Hitman

heart sunglasses on and there's like I guess you're supposed to believe there's a camera in there and you're seeing the camera from the car. Dumb city. Dumb city But then now it's this little kid's fault Charlie, it's double your, it's your fault that your dad's gonna be dead. Remember that always.

Yeah, yeah. Yep. And two, it's your fault that your sister gets a gunpoint dead or head because you fucked around and you found out, Charlie. Yep. I mean, what have you learned? All your dad's works of security, person, it's a big fucking deal. You don't open the door. It's somewhere around here too

where Ethan Huck says Delina Hedy like our systems weren't designed. What is the line? It's like our system weren't designed for this he says oh he says this system isn't built for worst case scenarios and then follows it up with things like this

don't happen in our neighborhood and I'm like okay I get it but like if indeed crime is legal all over the country you have to then also if if things like that don't happen in this neighborhood you have to show me why this year things

are happening in this neighborhood. It's also such a funny moment because it's like that's where security is always the tightest is the rich neighborhood. It's not like the neighborhood that has high crime has tons of security systems. Correct. Yeah, totally. And I mean, to your point, if they did, the point is you should be telling telling me how stupid Ethan Hawke is. Yeah. And you only do that a little bit. I needed a lot to because he's also got to turn. He's got to turn into the hero of the movie. Yeah. You know what I mean? So there's no time for both of that. And he shouldn't. I don't think, I think the better tactic would even to have Ethan Hawk become the villain by

Yeah, like he kills the guy or whatever. Yeah, that makes more sense. So he, you know, now Zoe's held hostage and then Ethan Hawk, you know, again, he does something that has to be reasonable, which it shouldn't be reasonable. Well, he's like, this guy's got a gun to my daughter. I'm going to take him down in quotation marks. Right, exactly. But then they start to it. Then the letter opener is where it gets a little weird.

I don't even know what the point of the letter opener is. Like, put the letter opener in his wound. And he's like, what? He's like, just do it. So like make him like liable? to stop resisting. Because they're trying to tie him to the chair at that point. Be tied to the chair by torturing him.

Yes. That's the idea. And like that's the thing is if you can't do all that. I get the ambition of it, but you're asking too much for then this to be like within five minutes of putting a fucking letter opener through his thigh wound. He's like, haven't we gone too far? Haven't we all just gone to? Hasn't society gone too far?

at us. Whoa. Wow. I've learned the lesson. I'm my father. Fuck. He has he has this whole thing because around here the fellow like comes out of the crawl space or whatever and he's got a gun to Zoe's head and then Ethan Hawk comes up and he's like

I don't want to kill you but it's like me or you are my family and this is just the way it's going to be. I'm sorry I'm not a killer like yada yada yada you get this whole spiel here which is also just not great.

No. I don't understand like, I don't understand what the, like, what what, uh, what opinion this movie wants you to have about this Ethan Hawke character. Exactly. In this moment. Like, what is he, what is the moral thing to do in this moment? The way his character

is Hems and Hawes about, he's supposed to be like you're, it's, I guess it's you. It's like, I'm a centrist. I'm, oh, well, I don't know how I'm going to handle this situation. Yeah. But that's not interesting. I'm a white male. age 18 to 45 everybody cares what I think

Exactly yeah But like so Zoe runs away And like Ethan Hawke What is he nails this dude in the head With like an ashtray or something That's what sort of gets things moving And now Zoe's gone again I'm like Jesus fucking Christ

Put a bell on this girl Lost in the Skittamerink house again And we're just here we go And this is where the movie's doing what it's gonna do We are just duct tapeing this dude up And tying him to a chair We're sticking letter openers

in his fucking wound to teach him a lesson about compliance, I don't know. And then it's like, well, we're going to and I think he's like, this is going too far and he's like, wait, you're right. But right before, right before that

he's like, do it, Mary. There's really great, like Ethan Hawks scream like, do it, Mary, do it. That's what my dad used to say to my mom, do it, Mary. I never wanted to be that guy. And, you know, yeah, because Lena Heady's like, look at this man.

Look what we're doing to him. Yeah. And she's like, it's wrong. It's so wrong. And then, like, again, we're pulling the skin of a rink house. The little boy just runs off into the night. I can't take it. And this is when they really, he's like, no, we're going to fight back here to take your gun.

You know, he tells Charlie to go in the basement or something. Oh, right. He does tell him the runaway. Oh, he also in this moment says to, like, he says something like, oh, it's going to be all right. Zoe, we just got to do this. Get this guy out of here. And she goes, look at what you're doing. nothing is going to be okay

ever again and then she wanders often in the night yes Charlie just go to the deluxe suite in the basement next to the solarium yeah take the monorail to the basement and then remember to change trains

at the next station and pay the train man we've been laid on his payments for a long time I have no idea how far this train goes when it comes back though it's got snow on Oh, you know what? We have some of those gold bars from Menendez.

Get them over to the train man. He needs them. He'll be able to... He needs gold bars. Bob Menendez would be great on purge night. Also, the Menendez brothers. Oh, they had a purge night of their own. They sure did.

Just let the, like, if there's a parents conference somewhere, just let them loose. Not a parent teacher conference. No, no, no, no. Parents are talking about parenting. at one point the bloody stranger's like you know what i am sick and tired of being in this house with all of you fucked up people yeah just let me out there yes he's like just yeah save your family you're right i i want to get this movie i want to die i would like to die please kill me now but then it's like it's like too late it's a time's up thing jerry's here with the chain or

whatever to knock the gate down and so they got they got to come in what's the guy say he's like dear mr and mrs you failed to produce the homeless swine release the beast boys let the killing commence it's just so dumb it's a little medieval time zy yeah yeah totally the guy should have a big turkey like in his hand and speaking of i mentioned your next earlier this would be so much better if like they got in there and didn't know jack shit about what like they tried to shoot the gun and they like go back several feet like the guy tries to fight somebody just doesn't throw a punch at all that would be kind Ethan Hawk has a fucking haymaker and actually

can do it. Like, sure. That was what made a slasher like your next so interesting is because it's people. You're actually fighting people. They're not super people. They're not super fascist you found. They're just little kids who want to be violent. Like, fuck, that's a good movie. Now I'm just thinking about that. It's such a good movie.

I love that movie. But yeah, so like this is, now it just turns into a home invasion movie. Uh, lead ahead he's got a gun. They've got Ethan Hawks got a super gun. He's got a super gun. And you, the super gun is revealed, I think, right here, because there's like a moment where one of the freaks is about to kill this kid. And I'm like, oh, do it. Oh, soil the floor of this laundry room. Do it right now.

And as soon as this guy's, I think he actually literally has an axe that he's going to bring down to the kid or something. All of a sudden, his chest just starts exploding. And he drops down and you see Ethan Hawk with this super gun. And I'm like, well, that's a different character than the last scene. And here's the thing. The way that you get that character to turn into that, You know, I mean, it's another trope So it's kind of annoying But like you need something To actually light this spark

Not just an edit, right? Is like, Houdini getting in there Oh, hey y'all No! No, like if Lina Hidi is killed by one of the guys Sure. Yeah, and then he's like, nah And then he's got to turn to fucking Rambo mode

Because he's got a dead wife Yeah, whatever, blah, blah, blah. But that's at least something Which is out of nowhere, like we Yeah, I know we saw that gun closet But like this is some precision cold-blooded, this dude has no problem with this. And the only way to get out of the situation is

to be the good guy with a gun, by the way, which isn't exactly a great political statement. He starts, he does get one of the creepy girls like jumps at him and she gets annihilated by the super gun, which is pretty good. There's one, one guy like gets him and they're fighting and he

uses a pool ball, not a cue, a pool ball. Yeah. What do they call that? A billiards ball? A billiards ball. Use that to smash his head. And then that guy hits him with the cue. You got to be pissed. A lot of axes in that scene. Guys, guys, real quick.

We just get out of the game room real quick. I just got this the way I like at the pool table. Just came on Monday. Oh, great. There's blood all over the Simpsons Arcade Tower. That's fantastic. Going to have to get that leveled again. Yep, had it perfect, but nope, fuck it.

Do you think you get like purge insurance covers some of these damages? I think that probably exists. It's probably pretty pricey, though. Oh, sure. Yeah, but you can afford it. You're doing so well at work. Level 10 and up, I think, Eric. It's pretty pricey. It was purge insurance fraud, but the fraud was

committed during the purge, so I guess it's fine. Here's your rebate. By the way, imagine, you think there's a lot of them now. Imagine the amount of GoFundMe campaigns. Oh, my God. If the purge was real? Yes, dude. Oh, the purge burned down my house. Yeah, let me, uh, funeral bills. They're piling up. I mean, the earth is on fire if this is actually happening.

Like everything is dead. Well, the earth is on fire. idea that the, oh, the purge and then crime is not as this. No, you know when crime is at its highest the night after the perch? Because like, you killed my dad and I'm fucking sore about it. Dude, revenge night. Yeah, it's like boxing

day. No, no, no, no. Wait till next year. All right. Hold on. Like a revenge santi clause. Well, then again, like we're just talking about things that would make this better. But like, then you have to up the fucking the day before we see the day before. And it's

a fucking police state for real. Exactly. It would have to be. Yeah. And the day after, too, they would come and sweep in. Huge, like, huge, like, military masks and helmets. Death squads in the street. Like, if you're out after Purge night, you're going to shot the fucking head. And that's what, like, those radio reports that you hear is, like, the credits roll, like, kind of try to do. Like, there's that guy that's like, both of my boys got murdered last night. This country's taking everything for me. I'll never purge again.

Well, that's, of course, I mean. we've all been to film school. The first thing that tell you is put your most interesting thing over your credits. That's the smartest thing to do is to do that. That's exactly right, man. Yeah, so anyway, there is also

a creep guy talking about like how hot he thinks the dirter is. That dude also gets instantly dispatched by Ethan Hawk. And this is what I was talking about is like all of these fights are going down. All these shotguns are going off and people screaming and whatnot.

And they keep cutting back to like the lead guy and he's like, somewhere around here is the guy. And I'm like, do you not hear your compatriots and the purge getting murdered? At the same time, this is probably the best sequences of the movies. We're actually throwing people onto floors. We're actually doing some stunt work.

This one guy jumps through a window like Batman, which is pretty insane. It's just like, I feel like if I do that, I'm like, oh, no, I'm good actually. I'm done purge. I just purged myself because I cut my throat open. the paint of glass that I jump through. No more purges for me.

But yeah, Lena Hetty gets taken here too by these, by like a man and a woman and the woman starts tickling her because again, all women are eerie, eerie, with their little doll laugh. They're all ticklish too.

They don't want you to know that. The lead freak finally encounters Ethan Hawking. He stabs him right in the gut. Yeah, Hawke prize gets got, which, you know, I remember actually watching the movie, I mean, spoiler alert from 10 minutes

from now, Ethan Hawk dies. And I remember at the time watching this movie being like, well, that's something. Yeah. Like the movie, like, he's dead and the movie kind of still has like 10 minutes left. And you're like, all right. He did something. Oh, no. He's dead? The hero?

No. Yes. But I kind of am fine with him dying, actually. From everything I've been watching. The hero, Mr. Man, guy. Sardine. Sand him. Yeah. Mr. Sandin. Sold security. What else about him?

It has a haircut. I know that. He or something. A big promotion coming in, I think. Yep, that's a character. If you're coming to, it's a character. It's not a character. He's just so standard. I mean, yeah, I am with you, Eric. I like this. This is action. Stuff is happening. I hate the fucking preppy guy, Elmer Fudding around the fucking house. It is so ridiculous. I'm like, do you have ear plugs in or something? I don't understand.

Well, we established that this house was the creepiest part of the purge. Yes. Who knows how far it goes? Right. It's ever expanding. There could be other realms within it. It's not a house sewer. Like it's not like it could be.

It might as well be. I'll tell you what. Extra half star if someone gets eaten by a piano. Yeah. That's great. But that's not doing it. This house is so big that large swats of it are haunted. But you should say out of those parts.

Oh, yes. Of course, avoid the, uh, the, the rebels in the railroad bedrooms on the second floor. The rebel contingency. It's such a big house. There's different dynamics on every level. It's like that,

what's that story? They made a bad horror movie out of it with, oh man. Oh, why can't I think of her name? Of course, the queen and she's in some of them Fast and Furious. Helen Mirren.

Helen Mirren was in a movie Winchester something or other where she played. Just Winchester. It's just Winchester. where it's like that woman it's based on the woman who was like the family the heir of the Winchester

Rifle Fortune she was like build she kept building onto this house and there were like doors to nowhere staircases that went to walls like all that stuff this is the house because that's the only way

any of this makes sense pretty good movie is that right? I know I never saw it I think that's also Spirag brothers I'm like you wrong though but yeah so this guy and this is where we get into some of that like

the religious intonation in some of this because the dude is just like your soul has been cleansed Mr. Sandin and just like can we leave that out of it? Or that's the whole thing. And it's a Christian ethno state which some people in this country are really fucking pushing for anyway.

I think that's what it's supposed to be with the new founding fathers and the kind of the religious tone of the start of the film. Just make that the movie then. Yeah, you know you Lutherans aren't safe either. don't you fucking think about it but because it turned

into like such a righteous challenge or whatever this dude's like got a huge boner and he's like thank you for this unforgettable purge Mr. Sandin and he eerily kisses it whoa yeah whoa saying something

maybe definitely not but then this is where I think the kid yes the kid sees the neighbors coming over through the security camera like Chris Malky shoots one of the freaks in the head that's just like in the driveway and you're like oh here comes the cavalry and you're looking at your watch and you're like oh interesting only 79 of the 85 minutes have passed is there more story here and boy this twist is really stupid the the guy's about to kill Lena Hetty are our villain here and then Zoe kills him yeah Zoe does kill him yep but then there's still more freaks like, oh no, they're going to get us all.

But then this is when Chris Malky and crew come in and just lay waste to all these people like, oh my God, thank God you saved us. And then the creepy woman is like, we didn't save you. You're ours, not theirs. Remember in the beginning in the movie when I was jealous? I'm still jealous.

Okay. She's like, well, don't think us too much, Mary. Why didn't you eat the cookies? You were supposed to eat the cookies and die the clean way. Why don't you die the clean way. Now I've got to come over here and finish the job myself. Eric,

would you go to a potluck during the purge? I wouldn't go to a potluck during a day, any regular day. This guy isn't going to a potluck in his own house. I wouldn't throw one of those horrid events that are made just to be body fluid swapping events. Of course.

And so this is where the lady who lives in the same rich-ass neighborhood as this family says, you made so much money off of us and then stuck it in our faces. How? Was it, was it really that they built an addition on their house? Is that what caused this? But I think that that's actually fine because it's keeping up with the Joneses. Capitalism is a fucking cancer, all that stuff. Yes. There is a mention

of them thinking about buying a boat as well. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm going to get a yacht. Oh, how could you need a yacht with a car in it? How could you need that. Oh yeah. It's got like a garage under that. That's like the one where I'm just like how like where I'm almost getting to what they want Ethan Hawk to be where it's like so oblivious to what he's saying. But they only do that so many times. And then yeah, now he's dead. Thank God. But yeah, now it's like, oh, it's all this rich stuff. And like, but no, it was all about the homeless guy before. And like, you don't know what? Wasn't that the movie or it was. What about the boyfriend? Here's the thing. For this twist to work or whatever. It's got to be like a lady and her husband that Lena Heady meets at some volunteer event or a fundraiser or something. The parents conference. There, yes, there you go, the parents conference. Something that's not like they live next door in the same busy neighborhood. Yes.

Because then you can keep that like, it is then like a quote unquote lesser class of person coming up and like getting revenge on these people. But like some rich lady upset because they may or may not be buying a boat. But at some point, it's so fucking dumb. It's ill-defined, you know nothing about these neighbors. So that's what makes it be like what? Like, you had some scenes at the start where they were being like, you know, like polite mean or something, like build it up. Make it a, make it a neighborhood story where it was open on a barbecue.

Again, like you would need to do something like this where it's like, oh my God, there they are. Yeah, we are thinking about buy it a boat. I don't know if you guys will ever be able to get one. Like, you know what I mean? Well, hey, Chris, you're butchering that pig. really hard. You got plans on the purge coming up? But you need

if this lady's saying you threw that in our faces, you need to see the throwing in the face. Yes. There has to be that scene. Mulkie has to work at the same security place that fucking hit. Anything to suggest that like, yes, I get what you're saying. That kind of class does like cannibalize each other to try to get ahead. They can be petty, of course. But like, yeah, maybe it's a thing where like Ethan Hawk

flub some numbers stole an account from Chris Mulkie. the big, oh, Ethan Hawk got to do the security on the college campus down the street or something. And that was Chris Mulkey's account. He stole it from him or something. And, but it's, none of that happens. And basically, we literally sit at the table and wait out the end of this movie. Well, no, first, our bloody stranger saves the day. Oh, right. Because they're about, they're about to descend upon them. This guy lights up a guy that had no fucking dialogue in the entire movie. Zero lines. That guy who's the first to go see you later, dude. It's kind of nice seeing our bloody stranger do something, have some agency here. There's the little RC car that starts it off.

What is this? And that's also like, is he driving that? Who's behind the wheel? For the kids like self-actual. Follow me. Come here to the neighbors to kill. Yeah, because he uses that as like a district. They're like, what is that gross thing?

Exactly. Then he shows up and guns down that one fellow. And he goes to lead ahead. He gives her, you know, he disarms them as it gives her a gun. He's like, well, what do you want to do with these people? Your call, he says, yeah. And she's like, there's been enough killing tonight. We're going to.

Wrong answer. You can't have your neighbors who tried to murder you sit around all year. What's next year going to be? Now you're moving. Well, you got to move. You got to move. Where's the house where your dad died? So you kind of want to get out anyway.

You're probably getting out anyway. That's a job. But yeah, they're sitting at the breakfast table. And this is another thing that like it just, it's just not. fine enough where this woman is like okay we've been disarmed or whatever and she's like just kill us quickly just do it I'm like no

it should be like it turns out once they're disarmed she's terrified to die I was just begging for her life but no they're sitting at the table I forget what does Lydia had to say to Chris Malky where she's like all this for creative so he's like go fuck yourself which is like my favorite part of the whole movie Chris Malky's great that's really great

he goes oh no that's so she says at first. We're going to play the rest of this night out in motherfucking piece. And so they're sitting there, the son's kind of coming up. And she turns to him, yes, it's in a tone of like making polite conversation

and she goes, did you enjoy Grace's purge party? Mr. Halverson, go fuck yourself. It's pretty good. It's a good go for. And then then this woman who is like the ringleader of the mall makes one last grasp for the

gun and she gets, you know, little audience clap here she gets her her face annihilated by a gun immediately yeah her nose is just she gets the butt of a shotgun like right in her nose bleeding and pretty good the joke that's pretty great here i have to admit i got a laugh out of this is like the second after lena heady butts this lady in the face with the gun the alarm goes off and at seven a m that's pretty fucking would she have assault charges if she did it at 701 i think she's got a case i'm pressing charges um and then this is like they all just leave again it is the end of the fucking ludicutes see you later max i'm punching out we'll see you next purge and she's

leaning hayes saying to this guy you know our bloody stranger here uh you know she's like uh thank you good luck and this dude just like walks out and i'm like this is just the most underwritten pile of donkey shit i've ever seen like is there anything i can do for you maybe you know like one of those no this is you're American morning news program. Like, we didn't forget that this is an American. Thank you for that little button on

the end of the thing here. But then, yeah, so these are like, it just ends with like, yeah, Hawk's dead. The kids are kind of crying over him or whatever. We fade to black. And it's like these radio things and this guy's like, I was a proud American. Not anymore. I lost my two. And it's just all these like

these people having like buyers remorse over it. And it's like a per check over is a serious situation. They're like, but it's kind of weird though how like you hear one report and it's like and we were shocked. We walked outside in Los Angeles and there was just bodies in the streets and I'm like

just at the bird. It's been going on. Has this series done cannibals yet? Not that I've remembered. That would be good. Maybe like a pocket like they do really in the next two and even the first purge it is very much like spots. You're not like Grillo is the center

but you're going all over. You're seen all over. That's interesting. yeah um yeah well you know what dude you get some like fucking creepy italian filmmaker get a real good cannibalistic purge movie going on they're some real sick fuck to direct they are yeah the Italians are the sickest dude oh binge it on the food oh hell yeah dude first you'll binge and then you'll perch exactly uh that's the end of this movie thankfully uh go around the horn here final thoughts Sarah Cisca? It's not a

recommend. There's just nothing here. There's not enough to cling on to. There's some good action moments, but then that's it. I preferred anarchy, but it's been years since I've seen it, so I don't know how well that it holds up. That's the one that came right after this one. It came right after this one. And yeah, I don't know.

Maybe I should go through the rest of these. I don't know. Chris Cabin. This one sucks. This is just a very good idea with some like some teasing. out concepts and details that I would like to see. But like it just, it turns into a normal home invasion movie. And I'm like, it's not a very good one either. And I mean, if you want

good cannibal movies, an Italian one is Cannibal Man. Or actually, that might be Spanish. And then they're both romance languages. And subject matter. We are what we are. Oh, that's a good. The original version is really good. I have not seen the remake, the English language remake. neither have I. But the original is very good. Just watch the sequels to this. They're much better. They're well, they're well made. They're well thought out. Like a lot of the problems we're having here. It gives you that like range that you actually don't worry so much about what we could have done. You do a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Steve Saneck. Yeah. I mean like it's, no, I totally agree with Chris. I at least the second, the second one in the third one. I just kind of got tired of the formula as well after the third one to be quite honest. But I do think those two those two, those two minutes. movies are worth a damn. I just think that the concept doesn't make any sense and like the satire doesn't make sense or the chilling thought about it, which is, this is supposed to be chilling to your bones. Something like Shirley Jackson's lottery is chilling because it takes place in a, the time is never set. You never know what it is. It's just, it's, and also it was something

that always happened. You always did the lottery every year. And that, then you're talking about like brutal conformity to things that have always been. The idea that, I'm living in America right now and then two years from now they're going to be like by the way everybody we're going to start killing each other every March 21st and then everyone's going to be like cool idea

and I know this country has a ton of problems It could happen I just it's a bit far-fetched for me Yeah it's it's just a hardcore no for me And you know Congratulations to Mr. Domenico I mean you had a hit on your hands Or you got lucky man

You made this movie for Beans worldwide box office close to $91.3 million. And, like, domestically, it was, like, just about $64.5 million. So, like, it's no surprise we got a ton of movies after this. And, hey, no ill will to the guy. But, like, this just does not work for me.

As Paul Hollywood would say, it's underbaked. It's one of the most underbaked horror concepts I've seen executed in quite a while. and you know at the same token though I think I will check out those sequels I like me some Frank Grillo action and action horror does sound like it should have been the way to go from the jump

and definitely sorry you could have figured out a way to do that you can't tell me that surviving the game broke the bank okay so like there's ways you could have done it on a cheap budget and not just have this weird skinnamarank house where everybody was just getting lost for some reason that is going to do it

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purge. You know, it's limited, limited, not for Minnesota. Yes, right. Disclamers. The slayers. A very spooky movie we just did on our we love movies feed, The Exorcist,

which is so much better than The Exorcist believer. Holy shit. I'm seeing it tomorrow night and I can't wait to quench with you. It's the worst movie I've seen this. It's not quite, but it's really close.

But The Exorcist is an excellent movie. Great episode we just did on it. Talk about the 1973 classic. That's a really great one. It's fun to talk about great movies. Went long on that one, too. It's a beefy boy like that.

Speaking of Beefy Boys, we were talking South Park on animation damnation Corn's holiday extravaganza or whatever the hell was called. Scooby-Doo-esque mystery. A lot of fun. That episode of South Park is way better than this movie we've talked about here this evening. As we've got that going on. Out now, of course. Also, once in a lifetime, killer under the bed, killer doll movie. That was also more fun to watch than this movie.

And if you want to watch a movie along with us, Society Mentary is coming out. Our single will comment at Harry track to Society. that's a lot of fun and that's a movie that's a movie that's commenting on rich people doing stuff to poor people

this franchise the purge could have used some shunting I feel oh yeah oh definitely but next week here the Halloween sputacular continues with what

motion picture Steve we are talking about the devil's rain oh yes this is exciting William Shatner satanic cult or Ernest Borgnine

yeah Skirt Borgnine if I recall right with like a ridiculous costume at one point. He's kind of wearing a one point, a cloak thing. I feel like if Ernest Borgonite isn't dressed like a bus driver, he's

wearing a ridiculous costume. It's like, what is this? What is this man wearing? You know why I worship the devil? Because I masturbate a lot. This movie is kind of reviled, but I remember liking it when I watched it the other year. So I'm excited to dig back in. Never seen it. So I'll say here. And this will be a good like, this is like the nitty gritty scuzz factory episode. Like this is a forgotten horror scusbo movie. So everyone that is excited for us to do a little lesser known

movies. This is a 1975 picture. It's about as lesser known as you can get. But you can actually get it. You can see it very easily unlike bushwhacked. Um, it's available where you rent movies. That's right. So until next week, we're tangling with the devil and Ernest Borgnine. I've been Andrew Juppin. Stephen Seda. Eric Siskin. Take it easy. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's entitled to one good scare. Sometimes, dead is better.

The zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in! It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicca Man. They're coming to get you, Barbara. Opera. He's sick for fucks you've seen one too many movies. Now, Sid! Don't you blame the movies!

Movies don't create psychos! Movies make psychos! More creative! Put the fucking motion in the bathroom! It's an excellent day for an exorcism.