We Hate Movies - S14 Ep711: Die Hard 2
Episode Date: December 5, 2023“Like most motion pictures, this needed way more Reginald VelJohnson” - Andrew On this week’s episode, we’re chatting about the high body count/low IQ, Christmas-set sequel, Die Hard 2! Why ...couldn’t they have developed a script where now-LAPD detective John McClane has some adventure on the streets of Los Angeles instead of a boring D.C. airport? How amazingly scuzzy and inept is Dennis Franz’s Carmine Lorenzo? Did they really need to go the sequelitis route of just repeating famous beats from the first film? And has there been a better villain introduction than William Sadler’s totally nude Colonel Stuart? PLUS: Dennis Franz storms out of a screening of the film Her! Die Hard 2 stars Bruce Willis, Bonnie Bedelia, William Sadler, Franco Nero, John Amos, Reginald VelJohnson, William Atherton, Art Evans, Fred Thompson, Tom Bower, Sheila McCarthy, and Dennis Franz as Carmine Lorenzo; directed by Renny Harlin. Snag your tickets and don’t miss us THIS THURSDAY, December 7th, at White Eagle Hall in Jersey City, NJ where we’ll be doing a live show all about Tim Allen in The Santa Clause! Don’t hesitate, this is our only NY metro-area show for a spell! Today’s episode is brought to you in part by Factor! Head over to FACTORMEALS DOT COM SLASH WHM50 and use code WHM50 for 50% off! Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!
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This week on the program, like most motion pictures, this needed way more Reginald Vell Johnson.
It's Die Hard 2. I'm Andrew Juppin.
Carmine Lorenzo.
Die Eric 2.
Chris Cabiner.
And we hate movies.
Hello everyone. Welcome to the program. Thank you for tuning in this week. That's right. We're talking Die Hard 2, which some may call Die Hard 2, Die Hard 2, Die
harder, but it's just die hard too, and die harder
was the tagline. That was, yeah, that was
interesting, because it's like, it's, it was a
fake thing, like it's not, you would
think it's called die harder, which is the stupidest
thing. Die harder is just
such a dumb idea.
Like, like hard, your cock was hard
for the first movie. Yes, sure. Now it's
even harder. Even harder.
I mean, that's, if it was die, even
harder, I would do that. Well,
I think, well, here's the thing that, like, what is the
harder way to go? Being
dropped off the top of a skyscraper,
kicking back lighting a cigar on a plane
thinking you got away with it
and then the plane explodes.
It's a great question.
You go out the second way, I think, no question.
If you're talking about what you choice is.
No, no, I'm talking like, you hear,
all right, here's a deal.
It's like, oh my God, guys, did you hear Eric died yesterday?
That's awesome.
Holy fuck, what happened?
And then the answer is either
some flat foot cop dropped him off the top of a skyscraper
or he was kicking back in his escape plane,
lighting a cigar and someone blew it up. Which one is
more epic? You'd be like, holy fuck, that guy
died hard. I mean, you're dying hard
in both cases. But like a horrible death. I think
the, the, uh, Franco Nero
in this movie has a horrific
fiery, like it just
it seems like it's quick, but I guarantee
you it's not as quick as it looks. You know
what I mean? That's all plain stuff
that you act like it's quick. Uh-huh.
It ain't quick. Well, I'll say this
man, I would argue the hardest death of this
movie is not the bad guy
playing at the end. It's that poor British
Air Lines playing the crashes with fucking Star Trek's Columnini and all the world's Grammys too.
There was a tea ready.
I hope everything.
Oh, no.
I'm dead.
We're just like English rare love.
We may be late, but we get you there.
I'm being the queen to the grave.
Get you all over the tarmac.
Now, did anyone die, die harder in that car battery commercial that came out recently?
I don't think anyone
passed away
the Durracell
die hard
there was an idea
to get Timothy Oliphant
back into the franchise
by having
Bruce Willis
put you know
the clamps on the thing
with the battery
on the thing
is nuts sack
on the nipples
I know you can also
I know
I know you're a nuttack man
you're gesturing
towards your nipples
on an audio show
so I was letting people
know that you were gesturing
towards your dick
but you weren't it was the
nipples. To be fair, I do think when people
listen to us, they imagine us talking,
touching our nipples. Of course.
Why wouldn't you? I see it in a check.
Okay, Steve's got the ice cube out.
Oh, no. With excitable as
we get, you know? And you listen
to this, you're like, they must be teasing nipples.
Andrew, could you put the air conditioner
up? Yeah, this
ice cube is melting over my
washboard abs right now. I'm seeing
some saggy nips over here on
Eric Siska, and I don't fucking
like it. Chris, Chris, Chris, get him. Hit him with that
Nice. Oh, yeah. Here's a question.
Oh, my God.
I'm desperate to not talk about nipples.
Are you sure?
For now.
Dye Nipples.
Is this the best Reddy Harlan movie, even though I don't like it very much?
Probably.
Yeah.
I mean, Longest Good Night is also.
Yes, I need to watch that.
That's the best one everybody likes.
That's the one.
It's better than this movie because it's not tied to any franchise.
And it's just, I would argue, as much ridiculous.
action. I don't think anyone's taken down
a plane in that movie. No.
I don't remember so. There might be somebody
is talking about doing it, but not
on screen. I think is there not
also some snowmobile
shenanigans that movie? There is
quite a lot. So there you go. Also
very similar
use of gasoline
to like the fire
thing at the end of this. Something very
similar happens during an
escape. I think cliffhanger might be his
best. Oh, of course.
That's a solid action year
By the way, you want to hear how fucking terrible
IMDB is these days.
Did you know he was also the director
of Cliffhanger colon special effects
seven minutes video
and cliffhanger colon deleted scenes
Wow, what a franchise.
People are just adding this to
this is what letterbox, you just have to use letterbox
You do because also everything's been cascaded
like it took me, I figured what director
I was looking up the other day. It was like,
you know, here's his acting credit.
It was Eli Roth, actually.
I was looking up Eli Roth.
Like, what is Thanksgiving the best
Eli Roth to be in me?
And it was.
But I had to like,
I had to like do some mechanics to get through his acting,
producerial and whatever.
Thanks and stuff.
Like directing was after all that I'm like,
the dude is known as a director.
That's the first thing that's there.
I can tell you exactly what this is.
This is at some point,
the belief is that everyone on earth will have an IMDB page.
everybody. Sure. We have them now apparently. Yes. Like that's the idea. I think it's like you get enough
thanks in there. Yeah. Yeah. And even like it's your great grandmother somehow. Chris. Chris you were
hitting a great point. There's not enough motion pictures putting us down for the special thanks.
Yes. I think there should be more. A lot of people owe us a lot. I do think that's true.
Well, I will see when Rebel Moon comes out of a friend of the show, Zach Snyder. Yeah. Thanks.
that's right
we'll have to see you about that
when we go see his
Star Wars
anytime someone tells you
it's their Star Wars
ain't a great sign
in a
it's not a bright idea
oh excellent
you got what I'm putting
anyway
back to nipples and car batteries
so this is two years
this is two years after
the events of the first film
where the first film came out
I believe it's just
these two stories are a year apart
yeah probably in the movie
because there's a lot of like, I remembers you
from last Christmas on the TV.
There's something about someone tells him
he bombed a nightline interview
and I'm like, give me that.
Give me that flashback of him freezing up
on national television.
Excuse me, you can't smoke here.
What?
Seriously, what the fuck?
If I can watch fucking John Lennon talk to Forrest Gump,
you can't give me
John Diehard McLean bombing on television.
That's true.
No religion, too?
that's right pal
now is it true that you refer
to these these proud Germans
as crouts
is that true sir
I called them yippy kaye motherfuckers
so yeah of course
we introduce ourselves back to Mr.
John McLean he's at an airport
it is the holiday season
he's getting a parking ticket
quick thing about this movie because Wikipedia
says it's Christmas Eve
everybody in the movie keeps saying it's Christmas week
so that's a weird kind of vagary
that I mean it makes sense
because like it's winter break
the kids are off
I guess like
because it's busy at the airport
but it's not so busy at the airport
like we don't want to have like it's like
it would make sense why Hollywood
you wouldn't fly in on Christmas
even to see your fucking kids
you'd probably fly in like the top of third
or something Christmas week
Christmas week
well that's what what we're talking about here
is what every single
lifetime and hallmark
garbage Christmas movie does where
some fucking psychopath comes to wherever it is
they happen to be celebrating Christmas that year
like five to six days in advance
they expect you to show up to your family's Christmas
on the 19th and fuck that
well no you have to because you got to wrap the giant
bow on the top of the car you're giving them
this is very important well you got to do that
you got to hang out with all the high school friends
you got to save the fucking mitten factory
there's probably some gingerbread houses that need to be built
Thanksgiving Eve, you got, oh, wait, no, that's, that's a different holiday.
But also, like, you know, you got to find time to fall in love all over again.
That's the big one.
Well, I was going to say Thanksgiving Eve, you see all the losers you used to hang out with.
And then I guess you do that on Christmas, too, people that go home for Christmas, I don't.
In both cases, I think you have to make time a lot of time to realize you should move back home.
To keep it in your mind that that is ultimately what you want to do is give up your job.
Everything you like about yourself currently.
and just go back to hell.
Anything you've built yourself that you
are proud of, yeah.
Scrub yourself of your identity
that you've built for yourself and just
go back to factory setting.
Yeah, take over the family gingerbread factory.
You know, that's it. That's your life, stupid.
I would go back to factory defaults
if I could be a little guy again, right?
Like you turn young and you be small.
Oh, I don't want that.
But you know what you know now.
So you could master everything.
So it's just the size or you go completely.
completely youthful. Well, except for my
Noggin. Oh, that was asking a lot. I was looking this up. You can go back to factory settings.
You put your left middle finger up your ass. Okay. And your right index finger
in your right ear. And then jostle a paper clip up your nose. You have to do that, but then the
reset is putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. Oh, of course. Oh, that's a great
life hack. That's just, yeah, it's resetting. So this is science fiction because it starts off and
it's uh mclean uh he's getting he's getting towed by robert the great robert christanzo absolutely
um finnie and yeah i'm from washington dc or whatever
yeah it's the fucking cradle of democracies of some shit yeah i was born outside of baltimore
what of it like no you weren't uh but he's just that's the test it's like all right robert
costanzo's character in this movie say the word water for me that'll fucking determine
Water. Okay. We don't got a little Italy, but we do have a little meatball world. It's about three, about three, you know, places where all the Italian food is in the entire. Now I see why Dennis Franz lives here, too.
Yeah, that's my brother. Robert Kastain, he's from, we're kind of like the Nolan brothers. I'm from Chicago. He's from New York.
I have always loved Dennis Franz in this movie. Just being incompetent and loud and stupid the whole time.
It's kind of great.
But he's getting a ticket from a cop and he pulls his badge or he's getting toad.
And the guy's like, yeah, fuck you, pal.
Never going to have.
These two would shirt each other off at the bathroom.
Are you shirt?
And I like, because it's like, that's what cops do.
But they do.
Obviously they do.
They love it.
They enjoy it.
They drink it up.
But this is apparently the first movie and the only movie.
I saw this on the trivia.
That he's LAPD.
Right.
Yes.
He's for this movie that's not in L.A.
Yep.
because it tells you that he
after the first movie successfully moved out
with Holly they patch things up. I feel like
I'd rather see that than the airport
jaunt here in D.C.
Well, because it's like you don't, I mean, I guess we had to
wait till the fourth one to see any of D.C.
This is all.
Dulles, by the way, outside the city.
Yeah, right. I mean, nothing.
A lot of these complaints
are going against the principle of the movie,
which was you have to do everything
we did in the first movie.
You can do it in different order and
certain things can be changed. Oh, but it
has to be somehow cheaper.
Yes. Well, little, I don't, some of
outside shots cost you money.
This, goddamn, if this took place
during the day, it'd be an extra star
rating on Letterbox for me right now.
It is so dark. It is murky.
I can't take all the scenes
around baggage conveyor belts
and darkened runways.
Eric, die hard was at night.
It has to be dark.
Somehow a skyscraper is more interesting
than an airport. It's less claustrophobic
somehow and it was just kind of odd.
I agree with you with that Eric.
But actually, this was the most expensive
movie ever made at the time.
Really? Until T2
knocked it out. Yeah, I mean, I get it though. Like,
you're blowing up a lot of shit. You're taking
over for parts of this movie like an actual
airport. That costs money to shut this stuff down.
The explosions are good. I
applaud the dummy work. I love a good dummy.
Oh, dude. This has one of my favorite dummy kills
of all time when he drops the painting scaffolding
on the guy. And it turns into like a sub
Mr. Highway from the good son. It might as well
be the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz. Like it's a fat guy
on this painting scaffold. John McLean
pushes it over. The guy falls off. And when it lands on him, it turns
into a scarecrow. When it turns, when it hits the stomach, you can see
the head inflated a little bit.
But he's picking up his wife because she's coming in from L.A.
The car gets towed. It's a, it's the murderer-in-law.
car. Absolutely. The movie didn't really flesh this out, but I guess I could pick up the pieces, right? The mother-in-law lives in D.C. Yeah, the parents live in D.C. We're doing the grandchildren. Yeah, the grandchildren are with the grandparents. Okay. And he's, all he's trying to do is pick his wife up from the airport, which, to be fair, if you've ever driven to an airport to pick someone up, it is a diehard situation all its own. This movie is very believable.
What is he doing, leaving the fucking car long?
enough that someone toes it. Because he's an asshole fucking cop and he's like, no one's
going to do anything to my car. Excuse me, asshole hero cop. That's the difference here. Everybody
fucking knows who this tower ever heard of it. Exactly. Everybody knows who this fucking is. It's
kind of great because that also happens in the third. Like they're still talking about this all
those years later where it's like, that thing in the building in L.A. Do you think because this
happens often with the state of the union, they'll bring, you know, the, the,
the current president will bring somebody.
Oh, a special guest.
Usually someone's,
whose life has been ruined
by the United States of America.
But sometimes heroes make it.
You know what I mean?
Your tickets are copped.
You get to watch me deliver by,
my address.
Oh,
no,
this would be Bush, right?
80.
So you figure Christmas 88,
that's going down.
Yeah.
By the senior.
Yeah.
When did that all change?
The term started 89.
So,
Right. So, it was still written.
My inaugural, I want to bring in my Nakatomi hero, a little applause for Mr. John McLean.
That's right. He killed all those nefarious Germans, just like our great United States military did decades prior.
Oh.
Pour one out for my good buddy, Mr. Takagi, lost his life.
Thousand points of light, thousand bullets for Mr. McLean up there in the 14th row.
Give a little wave there.
I vomited it on his neck rather than.
his lap it's a different type
I like to give a little variety
oh man isn't that great that
someone got to experience presidential
hot goop in their lap
oh yeah hell yeah
do you think I mean
and Chris you're totally right because every
single thing that happens in the first movie
happens in this movie has to get shoved
into this turducket of a film
I am curious when and where
somebody and it had to be Bruce Willis like
there's no way I'm taken by shoes off
I know I know it's in this
There must be like a, oh, no, I got milk all over my shoes.
Gonna take these off now.
Oh, they broke all these duty-free alcohol bottles.
I just, I guarantee you at some, at least in some draft.
Right.
Took his shoes up.
Do you know, do you know what I would put money on the, the agreement was they came together.
It's like, all right, Bruce, like, you don't have shoes, but you're constantly asking other people for their jacket.
because it's cold outside.
That's kind of...
Because that happens a lot.
He's straight up...
There's the one dude Barnes,
the air traffic controller guy.
He straight up borrows that dude's coat
like halfway through this movie
and never gives it back to him.
And that's the guy that comes up
with all the ideas for this.
Yes.
He's the idea man.
And Bruce is just executing it.
He's the hero, really.
Yes.
I always love that Barnes.
He pops up and stuff.
We were just talking about him.
He plays like a police chief in something.
He's been a police chief in some...
Yeah, he's always...
I think it's always...
police or like someone working
for a state agency. Is he the boss in last action here?
No, no. He's got a great
little raspy voice which I love. I've always
loved that dude's voice because it's like a tiny
guy. Yes. It's kind of like a Joey
Pants situation. Honestly, tiny guy
raspy voice. Kind of adorable.
One of the cops from ruthless people.
That's right. But I, you're
right. He is a chief in something and it's
driving me insane. He's a lieutenant
in Metro. Let me look up some more credits
here. Oh, he's been
working. My thumb is scrolling. My thumb is scrolling. Any previous
episodes? Because I feel like this guy just came up in something. It shows up
a lot. What's his name? Eric, I've just... It's Art Evans. He was
in Bushwhacked, uncredited as Marty. There you go. That's it. There we go.
Yes, he is the boss. Oh, thank you. He's Daniel Stern's boss.
Right. At the courier place in Bushwreck. Oh, that was going to bother me for weeks.
But so, like, McLean is just walking through the airport. It's Christmas
week, everybody. Oh, yeah.
It's sort of like Christmasy, I guess.
Oh, he's a detective in the original Fright Night.
Speaking of Christmasy, you can...
Security Guard and Tough Turf?
Oh, boy.
Oh, shit.
Eric's getting excited.
Speaking of Christmas, Eric, you can listen to our Christmas,
we love movies episode on an even better action Christmas movie,
which is lethal weapon.
That's right.
Out now on Patreon.com and also out now on Patreon.com
our sinkable commentary to the original diehard.
That's true.
Why did they ever do the original diehard?
already did. You could also hear this ad
free there as well. Yes.
So part of the thing
that's going on, like it's all over the
news in the airport and everything
is you're hearing about
the Republic of Valverde.
Once again, shared cinematic universe with
Commando. Thank you, Stephen E. Susa.
Oh, yeah. Incredible. That is
in fucking sane. So Dan Hadea
El Presidente. Yeah.
Overtrown, thanks to John Matrix.
This dude, the general, I guess,
of his army that maybe just got out of
there in the
Ramon Esperanza.
Dude,
you're making,
because I was thinking
about this with the other day,
you're pitching an even
better what if movie
than,
remember when everyone was
a buzz about
the Vega Brothers movie?
I want Van Valverde
the movie,
which is Dan Hadea
calling the shots
for Franco Nero.
And the only thing
that'll stop us
this time are the two
Johns, John Matrix
and John McClain.
Dude, yeah.
How did they biff
that fucking team up?
It's right there.
Are you telling me
that,
two men named after the toilet are coming here?
That's the trailer line right there.
The toilet boys are coming. Oh shit, dude.
That's what you call it too.
Here's always been my problem with this movie.
The plot, I mean, the plot of Die Hard is a fucking diamond.
It's just like he is stuck in the goddamn, in the thing,
in the tower, terrorists take it over. Oh, no, he doesn't have any shoes on.
And it just goes from there.
It's just really, really easy.
just like what's that
when Mario, Mr. Mario brother
is going up to defeat
Donkey Kong.
Sure.
Who's thrown the barrels?
Yeah.
Is it the top of the tower?
In the game Donkey Kong you're talking about.
It took me thinking
to not say King Kong.
This is where I'm working back.
Right.
So Mario Mario is going up through the tower
to defeat Donkey Kong at the top
throwing those barrels.
Hans Gruber anyone?
He's got his wife next to him,
Princess.
all you had to do for a really good
diehard video game. I didn't play the
diehard video game. I think there was one.
Yes. There's a couple of them.
But if you just had him throwing hammers and shit
at a fucking an ape named
Hans Gruber. You'd have some.
Oh, God, you're one of them. You're going to throw a barrel at me,
aren't you? Those Germans
with their beer barrels.
Now I have a hammer.
You call me an Italian?
Sorry, Steve, you were saying, I don't remember.
No, but the plot, I do, because I always remember.
Thank God.
It's just so, like, it's so perfect that you even say, oh, you know, fucking speed is just
die hard on a bus, because it's so simple.
This movie is so goddamn complicated with the politics, with, this movie isn't even
die hard at an airport.
It's die hard at an airport at a church that also kind of sort of goes back to the airport.
Well, it's all really the same property lines, Steve.
But we're also kind of doing like a riff on like Noriega and all of the North and all like the.
So the politics are very interesting of this movie.
This like the CIA is like, you know, evil dog shit.
Well, it's a military.
I mean, the military more so.
But yes.
Like that I do like who's the bad guys.
I'll tell you that much.
Sure.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think part of that is like this was much like,
diehard was like this is just based on some book
that they found and turned it into a diehard story
you know and I you know this was a book
58 minutes I think I was going to say 58 pages
I like that I believe
somebody's dad wrote read the shit out of this book
oh absolutely and then they were watching this movie and they were like
wait a second this plot sounds awfully familiar
let me rife through my brown paper paperback books
and five ah yes 58 minutes
here it is.
Let me get to the stacks.
I don't mind that it's not
the exact same location thing.
No, I should be the plot is very,
it's very sweaty, it's very complicated,
the ins and the outs,
when John Amos turns,
you're like, I guess so.
Like, it's,
it's just like,
there's so much going on
that it just drowns out the action for me.
I agree.
And also, like I was saying before,
every single shot is dark.
And it's just,
I don't know,
I wanted a little more out of this.
And this is how I felt as a child as well.
Well,
That's also true of Rainey Harlem movies in general.
He's very dark, like fucking not just long because adventures of Ford Fairlane, that fucking movie is, there's a fucking something over the sun the whole way.
Yeah, well, that's the best for the adventures of Ford Fairling. Keep that shit in the shadows as much as you possibly get.
You're lighting interdice clay, you know. Yeah, exactly. But also like, I mean, you know, deep blue sea, you're underwater the whole time more or less. That's all dark down there.
Except for Holly's playing when it's always golden hour for the entire.
this here's the thing whenever we cut to holly mclean it sucks i'm sorry it's pretty bad it doesn't
it doesn't need to be this is the part of the movie that i'm like you didn't need to mirror the
sequel so much like she does not need to be involved atherton's character does not need to be in
the movie they are both in the first movie it has to happen it's just it's not a negotiable
thing like the foot thing the fact that they allowed that not to happen yeah means that
everything else has to be in if that's the one give all the the the the the the
weird office stuff has to look all the same as the weird office stuff.
In the first one, it all has to look the same.
Well, hang out a second. One is like grody-ass airport police station office and the other
one's a really gorgeous Los Angeles 1980s high rolling.
What are you talking about? I don't think it's very, I think they do. I think you have to watch
the eye heart again because they're both grubby as shit. Well, because you know, like there's a lot,
to Chris's point a little bit, there's like vents and there's elevator shafts.
And there's the fucking machine rooms.
And this whole movie's are machine rooms.
All those like big blocky like viewing like things.
They all look like the same stuff from when he's wondering around the office upstairs.
Big blocky viewing things.
Like what are you even talking about?
When you're an airport controller, you know I have to look at a thing like to do your job.
A monitor?
A monitor.
There, thank you.
Okay.
Like that's what I'm talking about.
But the big...
Three syllables.
The big blocking, like, you know how it comes in like a large thing that has like three stations out of it, right?
Like the air traffic control?
Like the desk with the whole monitor system.
So where a diehard one is that computer station?
Oh, when he's...
They hack into it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they hack into it.
And then when the Ruber reveals himself, it's in a place where there's just hundreds of those things everywhere.
A lot of, a lot of this.
Got it.
it's all the same shit, you know what I mean? But I mean, look, I think the, but the Holly stuff is
out of control. It sucks. But way back, fucking 15 minutes ago, what I was trying to say about
Holly being in the plane, what I like about that is the light level, like you mentioned like
Golden Hour. But what that is, is the exact lighting that an airplane should always be.
Yeah. It should always be the kind of dim. Yeah, you can read if you want to. Yeah. Right.
And that's it. You get on these planes where it's lit like a fucking hot.
you can forget that shit.
Please turn the lights down.
It looks, aside from being stuck in the air
and your plane's running out of fuel, it looks
like a very comfortable ride.
Yes. I mean, you're supposed to look at
Molly and just be like, or Holly
and just be like, oh, her.
Yeah. It's very glowing
and like, angelic.
Like, I'm supposed to view her as McLean
might now and it's just
a little too much. And it's, you know, it's sad
and in a way because it's the only female
character in this fucking movie, right? Well,
That in the
Annoian news character woman
Which is not she's not in it that much
Now that would be like
Have you paired McLean with her longer?
Yes maybe
She Holly beeps McLean
And she's picking up the phone on the plane
And I don't know I've never seen this before
I mean I she's in first class
It looks like right and she's not
She's Satherton has introduced bitching about how
The plane was overbooked and he's not in first class
Right but could he at least
get the first class meal.
Well, I got to tell you then, if that's the case, if this is what
flying in the 80s was, because I know that
the airlines have like
economized every single inch of space
on an airplane now. Right. She's just at a two-for
with this old lady, dude. It looks like first
class to me. I know. That's the thing.
It's 1990 fucking economy, dude, but it looks pretty awesome.
She's able to page him and get
a call back on the airplane.
I love this line. She answers the phone.
It's the 90s. Microchips.
microwaves, faxes, and
airphones. And his response is
correct, by the way, that I think
progress peaked with frozen pizza.
Yeah. And it did. It
did. Sure. Meanwhile,
so, like, it's Christmas week. You're like,
I gotta go pick up a Holly. I'll be back in
like, I don't know, two or three hours.
Yeah. He's like, hey, Holly, when you get here,
we're going to get a fucking motel and I'm going to rail
the shit out of you. Oh, yeah.
We'll just tell the kids to go fuck themselves.
That's, I mean, I guess that's a benefit of
Christmas week, dude, is you could like roll up
the road, get some sort of, like, you know, day and a half fuck fest going on with your wife.
And you can get back to the in-laws before, and no one's missing the holiday.
It's not mentioned, is it, why you flew out there before her?
No.
It's also not me.
Yeah.
I mentioned why, yeah.
Work, I assume, because she has work.
She's doing.
Oh, she's got work.
That's, but that's always been my curiosity.
Like, is she still at the same company?
She's got a folder.
Does she?
Yeah.
Okay.
I never noticed that.
But, like, that's, I want a little bit about, like, that's a thing.
Maybe she took over for Mr. Takagi.
Now she's running the place.
That is someone.
You're on the fucking phone.
And it's like, oh, sorry, John, I got held up, you know.
Or it sucks that, you know, to, you know, I'm the new Takagi.
I got to do whatever.
You take the kids out there a few days early.
You'll hang out with my mother.
But I guarantee, Nakatomi, you're the, you're, your, your, your, your miss is murder at Nakatomi.
Well, that's, that's like, I can't fire her yet.
But in the year, she is out of year.
Oh, that's true. Once the press stuff
sniffing around every day.
Everything that Nakatomi does, it's like,
how do we change our name? How do we change our logo?
How do we get as far away from this fucking
tragedy as possible? Very true.
Very true. And I
would be curious the ins and outs of how
that, you know, Nakatomi straight up.
It's not happening. They're closing. It's gone.
It's done. It's over with. Something like that happens.
You're just gone. I'm sorry.
In the third movie, he's divorced, right?
Yes, he's divorced.
that's how this should have started
I mean I cut this
fucking thread you could make a Bonnie Bedelia
thread a
would be great if she wasn't in peril like
Princess Peach
and B but you know you could have a decent
enough Bonnie Bedelia thread but the William
Atherton part is where it just
gets like you can't do it you just
can't do it and also it's a weird
happenstance like oh you're on
this flight are you kidding me
well because I think that
the balance here is because
you have like Sam Coleman
mostly does the like with the exception
of like one thing does the right thing
through most of this. Yeah. And it's a positive
portrayal of the media. That can only go
so far. Yes. So you need the other way
to be pushed back very hard.
So you have something like William Atherton doing
this bathroom deal and like
it's just
you're right. Again
I got pissed off at a lot of little
things in this but like I
enjoy this movie quite a lot actually.
But it's true like
I hate to say it, but I get rid of all the on the plane stuff.
Yep.
Wipe it all.
You know how if you want to have like a major female character in this,
get the fucking former politician Fred Dalton Thomas
the fuck out of here and have that be a woman.
Yeah, that'd be great.
That's a major character that can talk and have some agency.
Or here's what it is.
Like he's flirting pretty hard with that rental car lady.
Sure.
you have that lady you cast her
you know with somebody
of note sure and it's like
for whatever reason uh oh now this
employee from the airport has to help
follow me around I like Chris's
idea and you know what Candace Bergen
as the air traffic control lady like
McLean you can't be running around my airport
fucking done for me I love to see her landing strip
anyway
no I heard she's just it's completely
bald down there
no you did I heard that
From the internet, maybe.
Or maybe a family friend.
That person in the internet.
Well, Andrew, it's your confirmation.
Let me fix your tie there.
Just so you know, Murphy Brown is bald as a bear down there.
They're going to lie here and say it's, there's a landing strip.
But it's bald down there.
Nothing wrong with either way.
That's, dude, that's, Steve, that's crazy.
Because that's exactly what happened.
I got confirmed because, you know, you go up there and it's like they get the bishop to do it.
Of course, yeah.
And what it is is like you get a, you know, the confirmation happens.
at a time and then you get like a couple seconds
to sort of wrap with the bishop. Of course.
And it was like, oh, you know,
your holiness, like this is such an honor
of all, blah. And he just leaned in and he was like,
Candace Bergen, shaves are minch.
And I was like, wow, your holiness.
Thank you so much.
Murphy Brown, more like Murphy Ball.
No, why don't you bish hop on and get done
with this confirmation? And look,
I do like this idea of the airport
employee that's flirting with him.
But she is fulfilling a role from the first movie again
of the stewardess who was fucking flight attendant
who gave him fuck eyes the minute he passed.
I will blow you the second you get off this plane.
I'm going to marry.
I always appreciate the move that he does in this with her.
She's like, oh, you know, I get off in a couple hours
if you want to get a drink.
And he just does the like, I'm going to wiggle the way.
wedding ring, like, sorry, toots.
Just the facts, ma'am.
Just as that.
Which is, that's kind of a pretty funny line.
Not bad. Not bad.
Meanwhile, you've got...
Sadler?
Sadler. Well, first, you get Sadler.
Holy shit.
I know. This is a golden hour.
Oh, this fucking asshole is beautifully...
Speaking about fucking shaved like a bald eagle, dude.
Just nude like Tai Chi showing
this fucking body.
Holy fuck. He's got cum gutters.
He's got gutters for every fluid you got.
Oh, absolutely, man.
Well, the thing was...
sadly, so Steve, you had that joke
about Andrew when you inevitably watch
the diehard 2 4K, let me know about
the asshole. I want to report back.
I did my darnedest, but
this movie has not yet been put
on 4K. It's just the first one as far as
I can tell. But on the Hulu
stream, dude, I'm my big ass TV.
I was looking at it. There is a little
something. Oh, yeah. I think I could get in there.
It's dangling sack
situation. Just the littlest
Sackler.
If his last name was Sackler, he'd
also have some things to fucking. Yeah, that's true.
He'd be part of the shittiest family in America.
Well, he's so much better. I mean, he's very good in this.
He's a very compelling villain.
Oh, yeah. But it's so funny that he became such a comedic actor.
Yeah. Even like, even Shawshank, which is a dramatic performance,
movie, he's like the dopey guy. Right. And then death, Bill and Ted.
Right. Yeah. Which I was pleased that he reprised his role as death in that third movie,
and it was delightful. I still did you see it. It's a good time, man.
I fucking tear up at the end every time.
I think they did a really good job with it.
You know, I saw it, but I don't remember it
because it was during the pandemic, right?
Oh, yeah.
I was crippling an alcoholic, then and now.
Yeah, I was going to say, what's the difference?
It's this week.
So I remember this week only.
You've added more weed on top?
I wish, Chris.
Well, so this is what's crazy about it.
So, Steve, your whole stuff about, like,
the politics is confusing in this movie or whatever.
It's understandable that you would feel that way
because the exposition dump
about what is going on.
There's so much.
But it's happening
on this television broadcast
while he's doing nude Tai Chi.
There's no possible way
any level-headed viewer
can pay attention to the politics
on the CNN
when these cheeks are just kicking
and punching.
This aggression will not stand
from Val Verde.
That's where we're at
with this exposition.
Because, yeah, he's,
the general there was
stop at the commies, but then, like, he was using some U.S. funds to funnel in cocaine, et cetera.
He's a Noriega surrogate, is what's going on here.
But you, there's so, I was actually watching it this time, like, wow, they're really giving all this information in this news report, but I'm just trying to find out of this dude's beanbag is on camera.
Well, that's the general thing.
Is it cut or what?
Oh, yeah, general, whatever, yeah, whatever.
The CNN just starts talking about, and those balls are just beautiful.
look at them the spherical shape there
loop you're beautiful
but yeah so he
he then gets to the airport he gets
he dries his balls off
a real fucking rogues
gallery of character actors
oh my god dude it's insane I mean you got
Mark Boone Jr. in this movie you got fucking
John like Wazamo in this movie for like two seconds
and he's dubbed
and he's dubbed I did not spot him at all
I can't believe they dubbed him
I didn't spot Mark Boone
Mark Boone is one of the guys in Robert Patrick.
Yes, in the Robert Patrick ambush scene,
but you don't know it's Mark Boone Jr.
Because he's got, I will say,
an unsettling looking sensible haircut.
That's the young Mark Boone Jr.
He looks nothing like the main of time.
Mark Boone Jr.
Yeah, no, thank you.
Yeah, like he looks like it's Mark Boone Jr.
Like he was still doing like average Joe job interviews
and not like a working actor.
Oh, that's too bad.
He didn't fucking get like the sons of anarchy
look that brought him all the way to
Sons of Anarchy.
And the great Vondi Curtis Hall
who's fantastic? Yes, dude. By the way,
if you want some class
A Vondi in your life,
man, that new justified
city prime evil. Oh, is it really? Pretty fun.
Vondi's one of the fellas in it
who's getting up to some trouble. He's
fucking awesome on that season
television. I got to finish that. I stopped because I got
annoyed by the daughter.
She's...
The dirter. She's only in it for like three episodes.
Oh, good.
I got to get through those three episodes then because
he had to have his
daughter acted of a project.
Oh, I see. It ain't great.
It's a nice thing, but it ain't great.
And I think they knew it wasn't great
because, like, seriously around the third episode, he's like,
he snaps her neck. He's like, I can't,
I can't do my job if I have to constantly
worry about you being in trouble.
And she just gets sent back to Florida.
And then a justified
season happens. Thank God. And it's awesome.
All right. I'm going to go back.
Highly recommend it.
Anyway, so like, but the weird thing, I mean, again, like the confusion, the muddle of this movie, like, again, you know, McLean is like curious. It's been a while for an OG diehard, probably since we did that commentary. But like McLean, you know, he gets thrust into the action immediately. Here, he's like sniffing around. Like, the fact that he follows these two dudes into baggage claim, like, I don't know, dude, maybe these two dudes are going to blow each other. Is that okay with you, Mr. McLean?
Stop looking for fucking trouble.
Exactly.
There's just two dudes
They're having drinks like one goes one way
That he picks up a package
And other goes another way
Picks him a package.
I get it.
It's Christmas week.
What the fuck?
They also very noticeably
See two cops approaching
And do the old
Put that shit down, put that shit down
And stop talking to each other
Well, I do that now and I don't have anything.
But it is that dumb thing of like
He's also now like this ace detective
Where before it's like a jammed in
and get a done detective.
Yes.
This, like, you see him doing cop work,
and I don't buy McLean
as that kind of cock.
He's not Sherlock.
And that's what he's doing
in this, like, airport bar scene.
It's like...
Truman cigarettes, drinking scotch or whatever.
That's what I want to watch him doing.
I want to watch him getting drunk
and smoking a pack right there.
Remember, he's not even going anywhere.
You could just walk into an airport back then
and do that.
Absolutely.
With a fucking gun.
Absolutely.
With the intention of driving your
wife somewhere after. Oh, no. Oh, no, sir. He knows that he no longer has to deal with that. Oh,
you're right. He doesn't have a car no more. He's going to taxi to the fuck motel. Oh, I thought you were
saying that he was going to make the wife drive the car. The initial, the initial plan before the
towing was even, I'm going to get there. Then I'm going to get wasted. And then when Holly, after
her L.A. to D.C. flight has to drive to the parents house. And you know what, dude, it's stolen
Valor for an airport
picker-upper to be drinking.
You as the airport passenger
need to get loaded.
Immediately, the second you get
in there on the plane, you know, I remember one
time Andrew Eric and I were waiting
our plane got delayed in Milwaukee
and we were in Applebee's and we had
like maybe six margaritas
and then it was like, oh shit, we have to do a lot
of stuff because the flight is being
rerouted. Cancel.
Canceled and then rerouted. Not reroute.
We had to like, they were like, we can get you on
flight to maybe Philadelphia.
So folks in Milwaukee, that
show cost us dearly. We had to fly
to pencil
fucking Vanya and then get the Amtrak
home and then the Metro North.
We were absolutely blasted
when we made those plans. A couple of
details. Definitely was an
airport Applebee's situation.
We watched the entirety
of the World Cup final game that was
happening that year. And then it was
like, oh, now you have to make all these other accommodations
such as like buying
train tickets and shit
because you're flying
to a completely different city.
We were trying to get to O'Hare or whatever.
There's no flights.
It's that fucking Midwest bullshit, right?
And then, you know, this kind of ties into Christmas.
No flights out.
Oh, no.
It's all booked for the next few moons.
It's always booked out because everyone's trying to get the fuck
away from there.
But we loved it.
I actually really like Milwaukee.
I love Milwaukee.
That's a good show.
Just fucking sucked ass getting home.
But so he's just absolutely getting loaded.
He's like, oh, those guys look like,
I don't know something about those guys.
What's great, too, is those guys,
one of which is Vondi Curtis Hall
and then this other dude
who looked like a scumbag.
I went to high school with his father.
Sure.
So I've always kind of in my head.
I'm like, oh, that looks like someone so's father.
It's just kind of funny.
But they, when they leave the table,
there is a wealth of empty beer bottles
and glasses and scotch tumblers.
And I'm like, you guys are about to commit
a terrorist attack. Like, you
really need to stay sharp. You got to loosen
up. And I mean, it's not, with the
exception of what happened with Sean McLean,
they didn't think they'd have to do much.
They thought they'd be in and out.
We'll agree that the saddest death
of this movie. Is this
old-timer church
caretaker? It's amazing.
I love that. Oh, my God. I think
part of me is dying with this
church closing. Yeah, you're right.
And being shot up by these guys.
It's amazing because the establishing shot is like these two guys
or in like, I don't even a fuel, you know, electric company truck
or whatever they're posing as.
Yeah.
And there's, I mean, and there is like, I mean, it's probably the most best shot
of Reddy Harlan's entire career.
This bucolic shot.
Again, it's Golden Hour, the church.
Jen comes in, she wasn't, she didn't watch the movie with me.
She just kind of walked through that.
She's like, what are you watching?
This shot is beautiful.
I'm like, it's diehard too.
That church has nothing to do with anything.
Regnie Harlan's die hard too.
And that moment would have sung more
if there was something going on
with the score a little heavier.
Like, you know the third movie
would have been hitting it.
Oh, yeah.
I'll say, just because I was writing down
some stuff for the end of the movie here,
this was shot by Oliver Wood.
We're talking about the cinematography,
who just died this year.
But that guy...
RIPD.
Look at this shit.
Face off.
Ford Fairlane.
Oh, baby.
Bogus Journey.
Soon-to-be episode at some point,
maybe in 2024,
Celtic Pride.
Love it.
The first three-born movies.
And then way, way back,
one of his first gigs,
he fucking shot the Honey,
moon killers. Oh, beautiful.
Yeah. Nice little career. So there's a reason this
kind of looks okay. This guy gets absolutely
a nice. It's like, yeah, a little piece of being. Yeah,
you got that right. Oh, it's so good. Oh, my God. Wouldn't you love
to do that to someone? Wouldn't you boys like some watery
soup? Oh, no.
Oh, it's so bad. And then I love
this dude. I've always loved this line. The guy gets on the radio
and he goes, this is Buckwheat. The clubhouse
is open. Oh, yeah.
Because you remember, we're all little rascals.
And we're just being little pranksters and shooting people in the head.
But there's no alfalfa.
There's no stymie.
There's no the rest of them.
It's just this one guy's got the fucking little rascals.
I guess you don't hear, like, I bet you Cochran is probably alfalfa.
And since he gets shot in the head by John McLean.
Oh, sure.
Or no, I'm sorry, get smashed.
Yes.
And the baggage thing.
Yeah.
He just executes this guy by shoving his head in a hole.
Under like this roller that is supposed to like,
rolled down. And like, first of all, this is probably one of the more
gruesome deaths of the movie. But you don't even
see it like, yeah. That's true. But I do
here's the thing, dude, I will always take
legs a jiggle at you. And you definitely get that going on.
Like, just kick him. I'm okay.
By the way, McLean tries to be reasonably.
He tries to go to the cops. We're like, hey, I'm
seeing something, saying something. But
it's Robert. What's your problem? And he's like,
oh, fuck me, I guess. And then he just kind of goes
away. And the move
is just to wait for your wife, dude.
I tried to see those cops.
I don't know.
Maybe this is a drug deal going out of the bathroom.
None of my fucking business.
You're not going to have those headaches and alimony
in the next movie if you let this play down.
You're totally right.
Oh, wait, she'd crash into the runway.
Well, I don't know.
I think there's a world in this movie where I think
the British plane, like nothing bad happens.
I think literally this Noriega guy gets away
and then some drug money moves from one ledger to another.
That's a great point because of his meddling.
All those British plane.
passengers are killed.
200. I mean, it's a tragedy
what happens in this movie. It's brutal.
I mean, they're all British.
And it's Washington, D.C.
This is some fucking payback for 1812.
Yep,
finally got him. Finally did it.
Finally got that.
It is, I mean, I remember
watching this as a kid, and I should say
we didn't do our histories here with these movies,
but we had the first three on VHS
and we watched them
repeatedly. I've seen the first
three diehard movies at least 20 times
a piece, you know, including this
one. But that part, I remember watching
it as a kid and like, you know, I mean,
we'll talk about it more when we get to it, but like,
it's brutal. It is. It's a good moment.
It's a good moment. It's a great moment. They show you
the inside of the play. Yes. Oh, yeah. And it's
not just like, oh, 749's coming in a little too.
No, no, no. It's just like you, you
meet people. Yeah. Meet people.
Yeah, meet people. That's what they become. It's just
meat. That's good eating.
He goes in and he's like, yeah, let me
see some ID and then they start like, yeah, we have
like, yeah, we have an idea. Like, we work here.
That'd be enough for me. I'd be like, oh, sorry, sir.
Exactly. You're in baggage
claim. You don't know what the fuck these guys are up to.
It's on your goddamn business officer.
Leave me alone. I love right here.
He starts flaunting his shit because like
Vondi and the dude who looks like the guy
went to high school's with father
going to the door there and it's
locked and he gets this guy's like, hey man,
come over here. You got a key for this door.
And he's like, yeah, why?
And he fucking whips out this LAPD badge.
He's like, because I want you to open it.
That's why.
Are you, like, oh, Jesus.
Are you that guy from the naked Tommy Tower?
Close enough.
Open the door.
But then he goes, oh, are there cops around here?
And he's like, yeah, like the airport police.
And he just goes, go get him.
Because he knows he's about to fucking murder something.
Oh, yes.
Are you the guy that strangled his wife on a boat?
No, that was the same episode of 2020.
I was the A block.
That was the B block.
I get that so much because what happened is
if you went to the bathroom right in the middle of the show
and then you came back, there was that one commercial break.
No one knew it was going on.
They didn't know the story change.
You went from wife murderer to wife hero
and everybody thinks I'm the wife murderer.
Because I tanked the interview
and the other guy did really well.
Although I understand it.
He's from Virginia.
The guy on death row did great.
I clamped up like a loser.
But yeah, cool action scene here.
Our first one, it takes a while for our first action scene.
Yeah, it does.
We've had some glistening butt cheeks, but that's about it.
But this is great, you know, he kind of like shows himself like, hey, what's going on here, guys?
They start fucking shooting out immediately.
I like all this stuff.
Yeah, this dude getting his head crushed is magnificent.
It's a choice death.
Vondi gets away here
you know
without like getting a good look at McLean
or whatever. Not enough bicycle shenanigans
we get that bicycle for half a second
which is pretty great and it's not even like
like he's not even riding it he's doing
like one foot is on the pedal
and he's using the bicycle
like a scooter. He thinks it's a skateboard
I think it's a skateboard
I'm going to sketch
I want to know
because we're talking about like it's Christmas week
and Dennis Franz is going on and about all these people in the airport or whatever.
How do you have like this the back room, the inner workings of the baggage handling?
There's not a single technician in this huge warehouse size office.
Bruce Willis is running around.
They're shooting guns at each other.
There's not a single other worker here.
There's always guys tossing bags under the conveyor belts to go upstairs to your little baggage claim, right?
I think that's where he goes with the bicycle is that.
part of it. Some poor bastard
is just waiting on the fucking
on the carousel like I guess oh
my bag has a bullet in it.
Oh cool. Chad is a fucking joke they left
on the table. People waiting at baggage
claiming the head of this dude
Cockray. That would be pretty funny. Comes up
on the conveyor bag. I love that. It's just
the head floating around and just like
Swiss cheese suitcases. And I guarantee you that
one of those overzealous assholes who has to touch every
fucking bag even though he knows it's not it.
Oh, I think that's mine. Oh, that's mine.
Every fucking baggage carousel has a, it's a black bag, oh, no, I'll lift it, let me jiggle it. Oh, it's not my.
I'm sorry. That looked like my lock. I'm sorry about that.
You ever catch? A human head?
Oh, no, no, it's not bad.
You ever catch one of them fuckers in the act, though, with your shit?
No. Oh, I did once. Oh, would you do? It was magnificent, dude. This guy starts a jocelyn and a whatnot.
Jocelyn, you're belonging.
Given my baggeril once over and I'm like, hey, asshole, it's just the tag. The name is on it.
You don't have to touch anything. But he's like looking at it. And I walk.
over and I go thanks a lot
and just I literally took
my suitcase out of his hands
and walked away. Get your hands to your god
you know what your bag looks like. Keep your hands
to yourself. One lady once
was like, she just came up
to talk to me in baggling big mistake
and I was just like, I was like
very different like what the fum!
She wanted me to help her take
her bag off. I'm sorry
you should have packed lighter lady.
Oh of course you know as long as you don't
make me watch it for you and she's like, what?
I'm like the joke
It's like a joke
Oh sorry
Sorry ma'am
I'm making a 9-11 joke
No well
Is that a 9-11
You know
No no but it's just
Watch your bag
It's an airport joke
It's an airport joke
It's an airport joke
That we only cared about
That situation
After 9-11
What did she do?
She didn't like it
She didn't like it
But I got her back
Okay
That's good
Would she then she kick you
In the shins or something
No
I walked away
Good for you
You sound like you wish
You were kicked in the shit
I kind of yeah
I don't know. Just go full hog or
don't. No, it's better for you to be the bigger
man in that situation, Eric.
I think it's right. There's almost
an interesting thing where, like, McLean loses
his badge and I'm like, oh, fuck, this guy can't do
that shit anymore, but he immediately finds it.
It's such a bullshit thing because they're like,
where's your badge? And he, you know,
feels his waistline. He's like,
uh, on its way to Cleveland?
It makes a terrible airport joke.
And then like in the next scene, they're like,
sorry about the mixup. Here's your badge
and gunback.
yeah and uh this is where we meet fucking uh officer lorenzo denish franz oh he's so fucking good i mean
he is great he's fun i love him like he's just loud and wrong the entire i don't i don't want
to hear it mclean there's no such thing as a terrorist yeah i would shut down the airport for
some punk stealing luggage don't lecture me hat chat i don't want to be hearing from some guy who
passed the physical part of the cop exam
while others of people in the room
possibly did not. Yeah, whatever you say
Mr. Universe can do a pull-up or two, whatever.
McLean has like one of the most confusing jokes
ever written. It's just like,
what sets off the metal detector first, Lorenzo?
The lead in your ass or the shit in your brains.
But he has to be such a bad confusing joke
on his way out. He has to go, fat fuck.
He does get one fat fuck.
fuck out there.
Because he says it's like some bullshit lie like,
your brains are your,
the train that you brain makes.
It's like,
you know how you're,
the metal detector?
It goes off from metal like the lead in your ass.
It also detects shit.
Or maybe it's your bull.
Wait.
Brains as we always know are made of metal.
Fat fuck.
You know,
it's like,
he pauses like,
oh crap.
Maybe that joke didn't make sense.
Quick, call him fat.
Yeah.
fat fuck yeah i got him you're still you're still number one john and i read they let him ad lib a lot and i was
like is this original bruce willis or is this in the screenplay i know the the comedy was bigger in
the movie than the screenplay of the first one so they tried to amp up the comedy hey bruce if stephen e susa
wants to call me a fat fuck wants to call carmine lorenzo a fat fuck on the page you could do what you're
just can't be adding fat fucks wherever you want man that hurts my feeling yeah all right let's go
back through the past couple of
takes with your ad libs here. Fat
fuck, fat ass, fat
loser, fat butt, fat brain,
fat cheeks, butt cheek.
Let me ask you something here, buddy. I work
with Jimmy Smiths all the time.
You don't think I know I'm a fat fuck?
Excuse me.
I mean, I'm sorry. That Adonis
has made fun of my weight more
times than you can count, Bruce.
All right?
NYPD Blues a little after this.
A little bit after, but it's a...
Because he has to talk...
He has to learn how to talk like a New York guy
to be on that show.
Because right now, you ain't buying it.
He's part of the NYPD Blue, all right?
I'll be honest.
I didn't believe it when NYPD Blue was on.
That I was like, you're trying.
Again, the line with the leash.
Be Officer Sassage Shipper Win.
You know, honestly, now that I'm thinking about it,
interesting correlation between this movie
and NYPD Blue, right?
Because one of the things everybody always talks about with this movie is what we talked about already.
Of course, Sadler's glistening butt cheeks.
I think there was two times NYPD Blue made huge headlines.
One, when Jimmy Smith, they killed his character off later on in the program, that was a big deal.
But also, Dennis Fromm's showing his naked ass on network television.
I got it.
We get a Miller High Life after I'm done fucking.
Look at my ass.
Oh, hey, Bill Sadler.
Yeah, it's me, Den Franz.
Yeah, remember in Die Hardder or whatever that movie was called there?
You showed your glistening butt cheeks.
We'll tune in to ABC 9 p.m. this Tuesday.
You're going to get another glistening moon, baby.
All the kids out there, they see too many good asses out there.
It's time they saw a dumpy ass.
Yeah, that's, welcome to your 40s.
Here's your dumpy ass.
Look at my real fucking moon crater ass on national television.
Yeah, that don't glisten, do it.
No, don't. It's a dead
space back there. That thing ain't glisten
since the bicentennial.
Let me tell you.
Apparently Sadler, when he found out he had to do this
dude scene, he didn't sign on for it. He's like,
could you please move it to the end of the shoot
so I can, like, get an incredible shape.
Oh.
And I don't think that that...
Yeah, you could do it on Monday.
Uh, well, you can do it
free Monday, a free Tuesday.
No, no, no. On Wednesday, I'm swamped with diarrhea.
Let's do Thursday or later, actually.
Wait, prepare for what?
I got the script.
It's good.
I got the lines.
I got them down.
Yeah, I memorized my lines,
and then I show my ass, whatever.
What I got to prepare for?
Do you need me to shake it a little bit?
Because I'm sure you might want to have the ladies in the crowd leave.
He's got a really great, like, just fighting with McClain or whatever.
He's like, I know all about your Nakatomi thing.
I really love the way he says L.A.
He's like, in L.A.
Yes. Oh, fuck, it's great.
He was an underrated dude.
I mean, I think he's just retired.
He just doesn't act anymore.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Has I, have I told, I saw Dennis France in real life.
He went to glistening ass or what?
No, I wish.
He was a award screener for her.
Oh, wow.
Did anybody get it?
Well, I'll tell you, he might have asked that while he was leaving halfway through.
Oh, wow.
he's dating his computer
haven't even heard of anything
Asinine is that fucking loser
A man after my own heart
I've never respected Dennis Franz Moore
Not a fan of her
I liked her
I like her quite a bit
Even Andy Sipowitz didn't have to get laid this way
You fucking weaner
I don't know just go after Runei Mara
She's all over you buddy
What are you doing
How stupid can you
You know what I'm walking out
Oh wait
She's a memory
Oh she's a next
you know, I didn't get it. I'll be on. I'll be frank with you. I didn't get it.
Fuck that movie. Oh, man. So, uh, one of the dude, the, the, the dude that he crushes his
fucking head in the conveyor belt thing. The, the mortician guys, the body bag fellas are
taking the body away. And this is like he's doing some clever detective in here. Like, he runs out
and he's like, oh, oh, geez, mortician guys, they changed the policy. And I got to, uh, yeah, I'm just
going to use just a quick piece of
loose leaf paper that I found to just
do the fingerprinting really quickly here.
Could you let us do that, please?
No, no, no. New policy. Got to do it here
at the airport. All right. Okay.
Science has found out that the longer
a dead body sits, the fingerprints
are affected, so we got to get them.
That makes sense. So you're the one knows
about science. Not, okay.
And if you were
to ask, Die Hard, too, like, hey, what if you
waited 30 seconds to not
repeat something from the first movie, what would
him. It would be very painful.
Because immediately
it's been 79 seconds. Now
we have to bring in Reginald Val
Johnson. I'm sorry. For no
I hate it. I hate it. I love
the guy. I love him. I love him
but I hate it here because it's so lazy.
But you know why I can't hate it
though, dude? Because this is the last we
ever see of Al Powell. And I
have to take them scraps
dude. I would love for him to
come back in. Like you said, I get Intel
again somehow. And
And there's a thread there instead of like,
remember all your friends from Die Hard the motion picture?
It does become a all your friends are back with this.
And like, you know, whatever.
I will say it's very nice since he fucking got over his gun shyness
and killed that terrorist at the end of the first movie.
Sergeant Powell is now Lieutenant Powell.
There's a little bit of promotion there.
Not too bad.
He is eating his Twinkies.
He absolutely is, which is great.
I just, I fucking, Reginald-Vell Johnson is just one of those dudes.
I love him.
You know, I've loved him from Die Hard and Urkel, of course.
I just wish he was we've did more than just a camera.
I do, I've always, I've been wishing that since 1990.
If the trivia is to be believed, that's because he was too busy doing family matters.
Like, Family Matters kept him from having a larger role in his movie, which I think would be, that I agree with it.
If it was like two scenes, just three scenes or something.
Miss an episode of Family Matters.
Officer Winslow has to go on vacation
or he's going to a fucking Taser
conference somewhere that week
so he can't interfere with Erkel's shenanigans.
Speaking of Tazers, that old lady on the plane
sitting next to Holly.
He's showing off this giant taser.
I've got them all, Hunter.
There's box cutters in this person.
Everything.
You know, I tortured my dog a little bit with this.
Dude, that was insane.
I was like, throw that lady out the plane.
How about that?
Later, she's got some line like,
I should have taken a bus like that
Porker Willard Scott.
Well, here's the thing.
She, no, she's railing against
weather forecast. Sure.
We shouldn't listen to the weathermen like that porker
Willard Scott. And I was like, lady.
Willard Scott is
just the dude wishing people
100 years birthday.
Like, if you took that guy
as your serious weather, like, he'd be like,
oh, and this woman's 100, and that woman's
100, and that man's 100. Also, I don't
know, it's going to fucking rain in Chicago.
way back to you i just want to kill this old woman she sucks that's all very interesting young man
and i i take your point but tell me this is he not still a porker well i mean you got me there
so maybe you shut your mouth willard's got was a porktastic individual the word porker call me a fad ass
yeah exactly or a fat fuck i'd rather be a fat i'd much rather be a fat i am a fat fuck i'd much rather
recall the fat fuck, then a porker.
Well, Coach, she knows that's
where it hits. She knows, like,
and getting you as close to pig
as possible. Oh, yes,
I know all the tender points to
slice, my dear. Oh,
I have so many fat grandchildren.
And I fry
those babies up like balona.
I make sure that they feel
terrible all the time.
Well, then, she's a real grandmother, then.
That's true.
You look like that because
your mother gives you too much candy.
Oh, you think poker is bad.
You should hear some of the things I say to little Ronnie.
Oh, Emily was crying yesterday.
And it's all because I told her I wish she'd die
and her parents started from scratch, whatever.
I just told her that good people don't eat candy.
We need to stop the elderly.
We do.
You know?
So Al Powell's whole thing is like, oh, these prints came back.
This dude died in 1988 or whatever it is.
and also a long list of military affiliations,
paramilitary, this, that, and the other thing.
Real long list of, you know,
all this to say,
these dudes are not just some punk stealing luggage
like Dennis Franz thought they were.
Maybe my least favorite line,
and I don't count the new two,
the two new diehard movies,
which are not real diehard movies.
They don't have lines out of.
Those are fake movies.
Those are fake movies.
In the entire diehard opus is when Reginal Val Johnson's like,
you got a feeling good buddy when you get a feeling people need to change your insurance policy and I'm like oh that sucks yeah not everyone needs to be funny in the whip smart action film yeah that's the thing like if someone can't do a one liner yep it's totally fine and not to knock reginal val Johnson's comedic chops like he definitely has them it's just a bad line but like you can tell like a written to be funny line if that makes sense like oh this one's really going to slam yeah
It's like that's, that's a bad joke.
It just sounds awkward coming out.
It just, like, you're, it's too wordy in a way, yeah.
Like the lead in your ass and the shit in your brain line.
Like, it just really takes too long to say.
Fucking fine, Rennie.
I'll, I'll close.
We're going to take out the part of the script where the limo driver comes back
and pilots the airplane.
But you are going to have Reginald Val fucking Johnson.
On set, you son of a bitch.
Well, it worked out.
because the limo driver came back for that fucking
Duracel battery commercial.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, finally.
We should get the ghost of Hans Gruber
to hold a fucking proton pack with him.
Yeah, him and Hart Bockner are doing it.
Was he dead?
No, no, I mean.
Oh, yeah, of course.
I think God, Hart Bockner is still with it.
Director of PCU.
Absolutely. Protect him at all costs.
It's important.
But so, like, this is also the fax machine bit
with the sexy stewardess
whatever. Hell yeah. And yada, yada,
MacLean fucks off. This is
when he just winds up in the control
tower for reasons. He basically just
like gets there or whatever. This is where we're introduced
to Fred Dalton Thompson, former
presidential candidate.
Fred Dalton Thompson, former fucking Law &
Order star Fred Dalton Thompson. American
Hero. The funniest thing about
him. No, he's not. I mean, almost
all Law & Order from that period,
but it's hilarious to watch the Fred
Dalton Thompson ones because he's like, well,
I'll just execute him.
New York State has the death penalty for another.
It was like a three-year window when New York State had the death penalty again.
And they executed zero people.
So he was from way down south New York.
Yes, exactly.
Yes.
That's the whole thing is that he's like super southern.
And like he's a good friction with McCoy because McCoy is very Eastern liberal type thing.
You know, Adam wouldn't have killed all these people like we're trying to do.
Yep, yep. Well, double homicide. It's like execution for me.
Oh, bank robbery. Better execute them all the same there.
Never watched Law and Order. I was more a fan of crime and chaos.
I don't like to root for the police on these shows. And those shows are like,
especially after 9-11. Ooh, dogey. So Fred Dalton Thompson, which is what we're talking about.
Yes. Is this big, big cock of the walk inside the thing?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Mr. Dulles Tower here.
Yeah. And then this is, we meet Art Evans as Barnes also, who's
basically like the second in command,
although it is that thing of like,
he's definitely way more knowledgeable about stuff
than Fred Thompson's character is.
Mr. Technology.
And like, you know,
I think friends are get out of here,
McLean, there ain't no terrorist.
Oh, yeah, here it comes.
The CIA is going to take care.
And then immediately, here comes William Sadler,
like gentlemen.
It's kind of a cool visual.
The light strip for a landing strip goes dark.
Yeah, which is pretty cool.
the hostile takeover begins.
We should quickly mention William Sadner's line
to the news reporter when she says
could we have a few words. Oh, yeah.
Here's two. Fuck and you.
It's so good. God damn. It's great.
And him being recognized at the airport. I mean, that's how
eventually McLean finds out who he is.
Sam Coleman gets the fuck you.
She tells him about it. And he's like,
oh yeah, he's a piece of shit.
Okay, maybe he's the guy who did it.
Oh, it is him? How weird. He followed me
on my disastrous nightline
appearance. Oh, that's right.
that guy
but yeah
this is all the lights
are shutting down
every goddamn system
is dead
like I love this dude's
raspy voice
it's so great
and you know
it's like oh my God
then they got a phone call
from you know
we are the people
that are doing this
by the way
there's you know
that there's a plane
coming in
and what you need
to make sure
that it is well-fueled
and no one touches it
and then
we'll put
the, we'll put everything back as we saw it and then like, but until then no planes can land.
So it's just dangerous for these planes. I get it. But it is a very straightforward thing.
Like this one plane is going to land. You're going to let it do it. Meanwhile, we want a brand new
gas-up 747 ready to rock and roll and you're not going to touch us. You know what? My problem
brain fart here. Could you give us the whole crew to like, you know, check the tires and
all that? We don't have that. We kind of need those people. I never.
I didn't think about this.
Could you load it up with those little liquor bottles?
How many nuts and cheese can we get up there?
We're going to want the guy with the cones.
We're going to need him.
He's got to get out there.
We need a lot of people.
To your point, Chris, yeah, it's not a fucking van with keys in it.
That's a fucking 747.
Well, because it takes 30 people to fucking take that off.
Because at the end, when you do see the fucking thing, when they're opening it,
there are the guys doing it.
There's some guy rolling a tire.
What's crazy, though, is like when they're,
like and whatever jumping around does not matter
like you get to the end of the movie
and they're trying to make the escape
and a jango there is flying the
plane as General Esperanza
there and fucking William Sadler
says to Frank O'Neer he's like
all right general do whatever you got to do
because you're the only one that can pilot this thing
and I was like but William Sadler
why would you not have at least a couple of other dudes
on this crew that are capable of piloting a plane
why can't you pilot the plane?
Why is it just Frank O'Neer?
Two teams of bad guys that get married to each other.
There's like 40 dudes on this plane.
Somebody else should be able to fly the plane.
Thanks a lot, smart guy.
You don't think I had pilots.
Who do you think Robert Patrick and fucking Mark Boot Jr.
Well, that's a good point.
That's why they were hanging out at the unfinished part of the airport.
I would have liked Frank O'Neer to do more.
Yeah.
He kind of does nothing in this movie.
Well, we beat him.
He's on the plane.
Was I nuts? There's no, no subtitles, which I think is really, really great and stunning for 1990.
But it's one of those, like, even if you don't speak Spanish, you can totally figure out what's going on.
Like, the guy's like, no, I don't have authorization to do that, blah, blah.
And it is like that it's bad that we see so little of it because he is kind of is, kind of is, like, a Hannibal Lecter, kind of like, oh, I just want a cigarette.
And then, like, the next time you see him on the plane, he's strangling that kid.
I want to see a little more of that.
It was a sloppy takeover that he eventually does.
Maybe you should let them land for you and then...
Yeah, absolutely.
He kills those two pilots and it's like, hey man.
Oh, now all my instruments are fucked from the bullets.
Yeah, oh, fuck, the cabin depressurized
because I shot the windshield.
I mean, he might be getting high on his own supply there.
Oh, that's a great point.
The Booker's sugar might be driving him.
By the way, uh, uh, Franco Niro Star.
of Enter the Ninja, one of my favorite
bad movies of all time. Hell yeah.
Favorite good movies.
Enter the Ninja Mentory available now.
Patreon.org slash me 8 movies. That is,
I was one of my favorite commentaries to do
because it's just such a fucking ridiculous movie
and Franco Niro's in like every scene. Also,
because we are as sloppy as hell.
So whatever. Frank O'Neuro, yeah, fucks himself by
fire. I mean, that's later, but
they've taken over the airport.
the Raspi dude's got an idea,
art, whatever his name is, has an idea.
If we go to this other tower,
right, the Skywalk annex,
this new fucking tower array
that they're putting up for these new runways.
And this is where, again, this is a thing,
and as we talk it through now, I'm realizing
it is a genuine problem with this script.
Everybody's getting one-liners,
because here's this part with this guy,
art whatever is like Barnes.
Art is the actor's name.
Barnes is the character's name.
He's like, oh, yeah,
get a transmitter and then we can go on this frequency
and they won't be able to hear us or whatever.
And this guy who's like
air traffic control guy number five
is just like, oh yeah, well
anyone want to run out to Radio Shack
and get an airplane transmit?
And I'm like, dude, we just...
Actually, that's a good idea.
Could we get somebody to do that?
But this is also part of the problem
of the movie for me because I don't find it very compelling.
There's so many lines about like,
we need to hear this on the radio,
get this frequency,
radio this, radio that.
Oh, I wish someone had the code punched into this walkie-talkie so I could listen to them on
the radio.
Oh, wait, this one does have it.
To your point, let's talk about the radio again.
It's not interesting to watch people troubleshoot technology on film.
And I mean, that's the thing.
The action scenes are good, what sets them up aren't.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Basically, they wind up going to this other tower for all of these complicated reasons.
And McLean follows him, I don't like it.
McLean gets kicked out of the airbag.
Get the fuck out of here, McLean.
Yeah, now you're fucking banned, all right?
And then this is, he meets Marvin, the, I guess, solo airport janitor.
Yeah, that's right.
I cleaned the whole thing.
Yeah, slash fan of the opera.
This guy's living in the basement.
He knows all the secret.
I thought you was trying to steal my records.
You need to fold this character into something else because there's just too many characters at this point.
Yeah.
McLean's got all these helpers.
Well, you know what?
Clip another one.
I love him.
I agree. This genre is fantastic. I love this guy. Tom Bauer, great character actor. He's in recent episode, The Postman, among several other things. Dude's been around. He's like, I collect ketchup packets around the airport. That's, I just live here. He's doing what all old men should do is listening to songs solely about towns. Yeah. It's an old Cape Cod town he's listening to now. New York City songs. I bet she loves them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Some L.A.
city, you know?
As long as it's about a structure.
Just got to be a town or a city.
And the way that he gets to
this love Randy Newman. Oh, yeah,
absolutely. You're talking about Randy?
They blew up
on Nakatomi Tower.
We love it.
Oh, my God, a plane's
could crash. Only
Walker save him. A
Pluto bug up. Gives
a dog.
I ha ha, the boop-boop.
It used to me,
did I'm not your friend.
They used to call the World Trade Center.
But, so this whole thing, the dude's like,
oh, yeah, to get to the whatever the fuck annex.
Yeah.
I guess you could just go through this way.
And then this is him crawling through pipes in this movie.
And he's got to happen.
And he says it.
He's like, wow, wow am I in this again?
I'm like, don't, don't.
fucking say.
How could the same shit happen
to the same guy twice?
Oh, yeah.
Let's see if it happens
three or five more times.
Also, be sure,
Bruce, when you're saying that line
that the trailer camera
is also on you getting the footage.
See, this is why, I mean,
you know, you see this title
and it sounds really official,
but it really is just more of a continuity thing.
The script supervisor
needs to be someone's like,
oh, okay, actually on page 68,
that when he says,
how can the same shit happen
the same guy twice?
that's him referencing the first movie really directly like oh me oh my how can this happen twice
we can't have that happen ever again in the movie like yeah holly can't say it later on
you know what i mean he can't say it later on also get the one and done you've got it it's done
i'm the script supervisor therefore i am not allowing this to go forward i rennie we didn't have
the limo driver you say yes to everything you understand that
where is
Argyle the limo driver
he was in
45 drafts of this
before we got to this one
you know what then
fuck you
30 years from now
I'm gonna make a battery commercial
and he's gonna be the star
of it I will get my revenge
so they get to this fucking
amex and whatever and here
great pre T2
Robert Patrick man he's just like
what are we
I don't remember with the set of
is what are we or whatever the line is and he just goes
a sitting duck
it's something like hey what do you think
I look like or whatever that's right a sitting duck
they're on the people mover
the SWAT team is on the people mover
I love that the entire SWAT team
takes the people mover are you kidding me
he cuts the power
hey what the hell is what are we that's right we should
say so what's going on here is that Barnes
is going to this annex and
the security around him is
Dennis Franz's like
crack ace airport
SWAT team
that just gets
butchered.
And it's crazy
because there's like
nine of those guys
and like three
maybe four Robert Patricks
and these terrorists
get the drop on these guys.
Wait a second.
Dressed as painters.
No, I would have never guessed.
I just love this guy
getting the head shot.
That's the dude
who was the sitting duck.
Yeah, you told me to look for
you told me to look for anyone
suspicious.
Painters aren't suspicious.
This is where, yeah, Mark Boone Jr. gets killed right here.
The funniest thing about this is that John McLean finds out about this because Marvin has like blueprints from like the entire city of D.C. plus Dallas Airport.
You'd leave those with the janitor.
Sure.
Why, he's just a collector.
He's a collector.
And John McLean, because he is the smartest man that ever lived.
That's true.
It looks at a blueprint.
It's like, oh, that's a bottleneck formation.
and that's going to just, that just invites an ambush.
And I'm like, God, fucking, really.
You know, you're Napoleon, dude?
You had to lay that down for me, really?
Couldn't surprise me a little bit.
And art will have the cannons here, here, and here.
They'll run out of the lake here.
Perfect.
I love the last guy from this team of terrorists or whatever,
because it's like, of course, McLean comes in,
kills all these dudes.
We mentioned the dummy under the scaffolding,
which is really funny.
It's the last guy.
I've always loved this guy's delivery.
he's like, I'm going to kick your
fucking ass.
It's a little Stephen Segal-esque.
It's kind of cool because the gun is on
the people mover and it's like
who's going to get the gun first?
Yeah.
And McLean grabs like a pipe and like presses it on
and he's running after the gun.
Gets to McLean first. He shoots this guy dead.
Which is hilarious because
the guy is literally holding a
firearm. Right. What a moron.
Maybe he forgot. Maybe
he forgot. Like when I walk around the house,
being like, where is my phone?
Oh, sure.
It's in my hand, isn't it?
It clicks empty because that's why he's going to go kick his ass.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're totally right.
Good job.
Crip supervisor.
That's, ooh, who's got promoted?
From podcast.
My, I'm a script supervisor for a movie that was come out, came out in 1990.
I know you can be very proud now.
Folks at home, Adam on IMDB, Chris Crab and script supervisor, die hard to die harder.
So right as Barnes is now all safe.
They're a bad to go out there.
Uh-oh, the antenna ray blows up.
Oh, it's just a way to kill some time.
Just a distraction.
And we go back to the, the big tower there.
And this is when, you know, this is when fucking, you know, he's like, hey man, I was just trying
to do a normal terrorist thing where I was going to steal my general buddy and it was
going to be just fine.
Right.
Now you just forced my hand.
Guess what?
British flight United
91 is going down. This is a
great way to kill people too because you
lower the altitude. It's
wild. Below sea level or whatever it is.
200 feet? So yeah, so they think
they're 200 feet higher than they are so they're just going to go
right into the fucking cement. It's
so fucking dastardly, dude.
This sequence haunts
me to this day. It's fucking
great. McLean does his best.
He's like on a fucking torch out there
to try. He's really trying, man.
I got to give it to John McLean in this
scene. Like he's making two little torches out of shit
trying to help these guys out. And it doesn't
work and Paul Meaney and all the
little Grammys blow up.
But then he's fine. It's like really
close to him and he's fine. The
sadism of the scene for Rennie Harlan,
I really appreciate. Because like, you know what
it's almost
20 minutes of like, oh, what are you
going to do when you get to Washington, D.C.?
Well, I always wanted to
see the White House. The old lady's
one thing, but the flight
attendant putting the little boy
back in the seat.
You know, my great-grandfather
burned the White House, and I would
like to take a peek.
And here's
little Billy's flame-retardant
doll that we have right here.
He's going to hold it very close
to him. What's crazy,
they do another, we're
going to ape
the first movie, but
where in the first movie it actually
mattered and had consequences. This
movie it means absolutely nothing is so the whole thing is like saddler's communicating with them
on this open frequency thing so like he can hear everything that's going on in the control
tower and they can hear him and bruce willis comes in and says something and franz fucking
lorenzo was like oh god damn it mclean you stupid fucking moron and then sadler has to be like
oh mclean this is where he mentions the nightline i think he's like oh yeah i saw you you didn't
do too well on nightline blah blah and i'm thinking like okay in the first movie when
Rickman finds out McLean is McLean, Holly gets in trouble.
So then you assume it's going to be like, oh, McLean, like on this airport, airplane manifest, I just saw.
Oh, that's your wife, is it?
But that it doesn't happen.
It happened after a long heated argument about getting Robert Davy back in the movie.
Oh, sure.
They decided not to do it.
So like, all right, then you owe me one.
You fucking listen here.
There's going to be a helicopter in the life.
assack. Do you fucking hear me?
And maybe Robert Davy isn't going to be on that fucking helicopter.
How dare you deprive the audience of Robert Davy?
This is a diehard movie. That's what they're expecting.
Yes, maybe they want to see Bruce Willis, but they want to see Robert Davy.
You went a little hard against Dukakis. We think it would divide people.
Of course. Yes, yes. We've heard all your notes, Mr. Davy.
Thank you for coming with this table read for Diehardt, too.
but so this is when
what do you call it there
the great
Columnini no
Oh the great Columnini
Yeah crispy critter now
Oh yeah
He's doing like a fucking
English accent
Which is pretty funny
Yeah
And this was like you know
He's in like the pilot of TNG
Like he's not Miles O'Brien at that point
But he was on that show from the jump in 87
Add that time to be trivia
He was in the pilot TNG in here
He's a pilot
Smiley face
Dude sick trivia of Brian
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I didn't look, but part of me,
because I was scared I would find it
and I would really lose all my,
any hope I had for humanity would really be gone.
Oh, yeah.
At the beginning of the movie,
when the tow truck is leaving,
the cop says,
see you, Murray,
and come back, even though this is not his name,
by Bill.
It's like, did you know that Bill Murray is actually?
And I was like, if it's in there,
Because I can't stay for sure
Is it.
Trivia.
It'd be great if the tow truck guy
came back at the end
to like pick up the fucking
burning wreckage off
the goddamn tarmac.
You answer me this, Randy.
You answer me this.
Why can't the limo driver
be the tow truck?
Why are you so stubborn about this?
Yeah, now Argyle's just
towing cars in D.C.
And why can't McLean be
taunted by the ghost of Hans Gruber?
And why couldn't
his new sidekick be? I don't know. Whatever. Mr. Takagi's nephew. How about that?
As for the haunting of, uh, by the Hans Gruber, your wade him picture.
We'll get to the third one and we'll get to that. Honestly, these movies would have gotten better once to get into the fourth and fifth one, which are the fake ones.
If it was a ghost scenario, I'd be more on board. Um, yeah. Anyway, so the chopper lands. The chopper land, the great John Amos shows up.
Fuck yes. Yes. Yeah. And he just built like a brick shithouse at this movie.
You do not want to be fucking with John Amos.
No. Terrify.
You know, like, oh, good times.
He's the dad, but he's always big dude.
Like in this movie, it's like, oh, dude, I don't want to fuck with this guy.
No, no, no, no, no.
I barely wanted to fuck with him on Good Time.
This is like, you do not want to mess with this dude.
He steps off the copper.
He is a major grant.
Yes.
Here is the character's name.
He used to work with Sadler in some capacity.
I taught him everything he knows.
Yeah, there you go.
Well, maybe he learned a few things since then.
Shit for Braille.
this is oh yeah isn't colonel stewart one of your man and john amos has to be like not anymore
you're like oh interesting and you like i mean i saw this as a kid uh i haven't seen this movie in
fucking forever so i was like oh yeah i remember he's crooked and then like the movie kept
going on yeah so i was he crooked oh yeah there it is it's a lot of movie before he reveals himself
to be crooked and there's a lot of movie already by the way in case you're wondering it's also i don't
know, it's boring and I guess maybe it makes sense logically for the characters in the
film, but the blanks and the bullets, the real bullets, the blue bullets, the blanks.
But the thing that they don't explain through all of this, though, is like, so these
two sides, so Sadler and Amos, like, they're, like, lined up and whatever, but there's a thing
in the middle where someone tells, like, Dennis Franz and Fred Thomas and everybody, like,
oh, hey, things have gotten so bad, like, the U.S.
government is sending in a team. Sure. But where is that connector where it's like, oh, good thing it was
John Amos's crooked team that's in on the plan. Great question. You need like either someone's
intercepting a phone call and it's Sadler's terrorists that are like, hello, US government. Oh,
yes, we'll definitely send a team to the airport. Or they kill them along the way. Like, oh, are you
here to help the airport police? And now Amos goes in. You know what? I don't want to
anybody involved with this guy beforehand. We're already in a touchy situation. Whoever the senator
was that really grilled him that day, have him pick out the guy who's going after him. I want
him to, the most corrupt, like vicious motherfucker to go after William Sadler, please. Oh, so Barnes
like cracks this like outer marker frequency thing where he's like, oh, it just beeps, but we could
it's more of this like
techno-gobbledy-gook stuff where it's like
oh yeah we rewire this and then we put
the frequency of this and then Mr. Big's limo
is going to be coming back to Chicago on Friday
like it just makes, I mean
I'm sure it makes sense to like tech people
maybe. Jordi and Data talking to each other
about reversing polarities. And it's fine
and I just wish we got there sooner maybe
but yeah that's just a lot of radio talk
and the whole thing it's like
all of this techno babble to say
oh now we can talk to all the planes and the
terrorists won't hear us doing it so they're able to tell all these, you know, planes that are coming to the airport, like, hey, if you're not yet past the outer markers, reroute to another airport, because we got some terrorist shit going on here. We can't be dealing with you landing. Don't tell anyone.
And then William Atherton's on his little, like, his crew member has a frequency that's picking it up. So he's like listening to it.
And he gets so, you can see this dude's dick get hard. Like, the idea of like this story.
coming before. I'm like, oh shit. I'm going to be able to go on the news with this great
dick whatever his name is story. Which is great because like diehard logic is as such. If you're a
guy with a gun, just go in and interrupt a bank robbery, interrupt anything. Yeah. And it's that's,
that's, that's, that's going to lead to really good consequences for you. Thank you, Mr. Patriot.
Exactly. And, uh, but you're just some, you're some news reporter trying to get information out that people
don't want you to get out, that's going to cause a panic. That's bad. Yeah. And it's true. It does cause
a panic in the terminal, which by the way, we don't see enough of. No. I would like more in the
terminal. A little more terminal carnage. Yeah. Also, you know what? You're using your celebrity to get
some things going on here, John McLean. Yeah. I think you need to go out. Go, you know what? We need
bodies. We need people who are willing to put their lives on the line to stop these maniacs. Sure.
there are so many cop worshipers out there
you just go out into the sea of people out here
and just be like I need you to help me with something
I'm John McClain
I need you to help me stop these terrorists
and you are going to get so many fucking idiots
willing to hold a gun and go out there for him
you get he gets his own John Amos squad
if you did do more like if he's hanging someone
in a Starbucks or something like that
like there's more to this than just
the darkened alleys of behind
an air, like the part of the airport
you don't, the airport's bad enough. The part of the airport you don't
see is nothing. Yeah. And this movie takes place in the space between
spaces. I don't like that. I will say I like the tower. I like
the tower. I think it's a cool. The tower is very Star Wars in there. I like
good job McLean. Now there's a panic in my airport. People are
biting each other's necks off at the Wendy's.
I mean, there is a part where like,
You see Dennis Franz in that sea of people after Atherton does give the report a little later on, getting trampled all around him.
He's like, you get that goddamn piece of shit car.
Never mind the thousand people exiting it once.
Uh-oh, crowd crush.
I was kind of thinking of the opening of fucking Thanksgiving during this.
Ooh, crowd crush.
You should get a couple of people down.
I mean, that's the thing is William Atherton cannot, like, it'd be so funny if you cast him as like a loving,
and something, like, just something
funny like that just to do it, because
like, like, even like, if
Chris, if Chris McDonald couldn't do
Happy Gilmore, he would have had to play
that character. Chris McDonald kind of
took his, took it for the nine,
took the baton in the 90s.
For the bet. I mean, Chris. Oh, yeah. For sure.
He mean, he's the best. He is. You should get
Christopher McDonald in the new
Ghostbusters movies. That's what you need.
Leave my beautiful boy alone.
They need a dickless character in them movies.
I don't want any more. The movies just have
Paul Rudd making quips here and there.
You should get a bunch of magnets in that Ghostbusters
movie to fucking erase the fucking
footage.
That's what that movie needs a bunch of fucking magnets on the hard drive.
No, that should be in the editor. That should be
in the editor's contract. Like, no, I just
like having magnets around me.
It's very comforting.
Listen, just two words. Tax right off.
Okay, that's three words. But think about it.
So what I love is
Sadler is making this insane speech
to the man or whatever.
like the dominoes will fall no more and the ramparts and then like you know he's just going
off on something and this dude has to like wait and be like excuse me colonel but uh general
Esperanza's landed it's like oh you caught off my big speech did you uh yeah this is when
mclean shows up to because he's like it's it's the most spurious reasoning at all of all
because he just like you know uh franco deero lands this fucking damaged
plane. He's like, ah, there I am. I've landed. Then McLean gets him's like, I'm going to use you to bargain for my wife. I'm like, no, you're not. That doesn't like, no. And that never happens. Those two characters have nothing to do with each other. He's just there to be in an action movie and it's fine. But blah, blah, blah. He gets stuck in the, in the cockpit. I think. They use an axe to like Jimmy the door closed.
Freakardier gets the better of him. And then this is when they throw all the grenades inside the cockpit.
Good thing they're slow active grenades.
Dude, what are we doing?
If movies have taught me anything,
they explode immediately. You got like
five to nine seconds. You have a lot
that's a say, mother. That's it.
Precisely. That's it. Now he's just like, oh,
oh, no, there's more. Oh, wait,
there's even more. What time is it?
Okay, wait. Let me see. Oh, shit. What am I
going to, okay. All right, they've been here for
15, 20 minutes. Let me get into this
injection seat. The ejection seat, make sure I get
gotta be safe put the little seatbelt on here gotta be safe
well if you launch yourself out of the fucking
injector seat without that you screw
reasoning with a grenade the grenade's exploding
but I'm agreeing with the strap in you got a strap in
Sadler is like oh how many grenades you guys have
we have three each sirs like throw them all in I'm like
maybe we'll hold on to one each you know what I mean
like you never know when you're going to need a grenade
by the way this this excellent ejector seat explosion
and Christopher McDonald reminds you to stay
tuned and a half. The movie Terminal Velocity, anybody?
Yes. Charlie Sheet is a skydiving instructor.
Christy Swanson, I believe.
Stasia Kinski, my friend. Wait. And so the chase is Christy Swanson?
Now that I've seen. Domino's Pizza.
We have to do the chase. Yeah, yeah. Because Dalton Foss's daughter has been taken.
Maybe we'll do a Charlie back-to-back. Oh, yeah. That would be something.
No, wait. Terminal velocity, you've seen because of your father's skydiving.
Of course. Yeah, of course. We saw the theaters.
I never caught it. So is, wait, is Charlie Sheen the main guy?
He is. Christopher Dolls is the heavy.
James Gandalfini is in that movie, sir. Don't worry about it.
It's not as deep as the chase has an insane fucking cast.
But this, that turbo velocity has a lot of surprises around the corner.
But man, there's a lot of Sheen we haven't done that. Sheenuary might be something here.
Men at work. I saw that at work. That's the WLM, obviously.
The arrival. Yes. Where the alien.
knees bend the wrong way.
You got Ron Silver in that.
And then I recently watched this, the rookie,
the Clint Eastwood movie.
Clint Eastwood, Charlie Sheen.
Chris Gavin's Santa Claus impression.
Raul Julia is the villain.
Wow.
It's really, it's where you want to be.
It's weirdly really bloody.
It's fucking weird.
We'll do a Sheen mother next.
Maybe.
Comment below.
I like that.
But so you know,
he escapes and they're like,
he got out of there. Let's just go back to our hideout. And then something, something,
Barnes is like, I have a map. The hideout has to be here because the movie has to know it.
Yeah. It's all this stuff about like, is amazing like raspy voice. Like, oh, yes, several years ago.
And there was airport renovation. And they changed all the wiring to here. They had to change this.
You know, because of flooding. And I'm like, kill someone. Somebody shoot a gun. Can an explosion have
No, no, why don't we just stand in a dark
and hallway and maybe look at a map?
And they wind up going to the church.
This is what John Amos is like, you know,
we'll take it from here.
I'm sorry, the first is McLean v.
Outside Hedgeman with the icicle to the eye,
which is the best kill of the movie, I think.
Oh, hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
I mean, John Amos is.
John Amos.
John Amos won.
Yeah.
Ice Pick eyeball two.
paint scaffolding dummy three.
I like that.
I'm happy with that order.
And the fourth.
Headshot.
It's a solid.
The People Mover Headshot is also pretty.
Headshot.
Just a general headshot because there are a couple.
Headshot.
Here goes Eric quoting agrodrift again.
Yeah, I'm a monster.
Headshot.
Harmony Curran's AgroDrift is coming soon, folks.
Not to this feed, but as a movie.
Maybe.
Somebody's releasing it, I'm sure.
Andrew and I saw it at the New York Film Festival.
It's the movie that's like it's all in heat vision
and they're basically, every character is an NPC
from an action game.
They're basically trying to do a video game movie.
It's very bizarre.
Harmony Corinne made a movie that was unwatchable.
Hold on.
That's what makes him a true artist
is he's finding new levels of unwatchability.
Like what if, you know, trash humpers,
you would think that's unwatchable enough.
But no, no, no, no.
a movie that argues that
the future of cinema is video games and
TikTok. No, that's the one.
I'm a monster. I'm the best
I will say the beach bum was one of my favorite
movie. The beach bum is an excellent movie.
See, because that dude
you know, broken clock and whatnot
goes in and out. I've still never seen it because of my
heart and I just can't do it. You've got to do it, dude. You got to fucking do it.
Ring breakers and beach bomb. Turn your key, sir.
Watch beach bums, sir.
Turn your key.
I'm assuming you've already seen spring breakers or have you not because of that too.
It's actually good.
It's good.
Those are the two really good ones.
That would be a great double feature.
Yeah, actually, that would be good.
So anyway, General Grants or Major Grants, whatever, men get into it here with Sadler's fellas, big shootout.
Very pointedly, let's change our clips from red to blue.
It's very, you know, absolutely.
I mean, if you haven't seen this movie before, you don't notice that.
No, you don't. But I mean, if you have, you're like, oh, they're on double dare.
Although I don't. It is the exact shade of red and blue is double there. You're right.
I don't like, because like there is one show, when they're in the back of the van with and Amos tells them to switch it, there is a blue one right in the middle of the frame.
Like it wouldn't be hard to see. And then if you saw all the other guys, be like, oh, wait, what fuck's that?
But yeah, they're, they're firing at each other snowmobile chasing because it's love a good snowboard.
Because our director is finished. Got to get that in there.
I had this thought while watching this snowmobile chase.
That snowmobiling's really fun.
Well, probably, yeah.
It is.
Well, I haven't been.
Oh, really?
You bet.
Very much.
Several times.
I grew up driving snowmobiles.
Yeah, with under the tutelage of one fucking William Sadler.
Is that what you're doing?
Working some mercenary army?
No, growing up, you know, we go up north to my dad's, you know, hunting cabin and whatnot.
Some of the fellas had snowmobiles driving around the forest.
I had this thought.
because I didn't remember what a snowmobile was called
and I wrote down jet ski
and I was like, why, and this is probably
someone's bad stand-up bit, but why aren't
they jet skis? I mean, it's
ski, it's like literally, it has more to
skiing has more to do with winter than water.
Sure. Cross-country jet ski.
And what's the deal with snowmobiles?
They're getting very dangerous here
at this snowmobiling because when McLean shoots that
one guy off of it, you see the snowmobile kind of
land, it definitely hits like
slushy ice, like,
driving on something that's kind of thawing out
maybe a little bit. Very dangerous
to be doing that. At the end of this
why can't I shut that guy 14 times
in the face? What? Of course.
What's the line? He's got, oh, I had him right in my sights.
Me, John McLean. I've killed over 100 people. No way I'm
in this. And then it's kind of, it's
one of my favorite parts of the movie when he goes back to
Oh God, yes. He goes back to Franz and Franz
like, McLean, I've been wrong 14 times. I got to be right.
This 15th. And they're like, no, you're wrong.
again because John Amos says,
why the fuck would he be in
on it? Those guys were fine. I saw
them. They were shooting at each other.
Dude, Willis just
opening this machine gun full of the
blanks in this police station.
Somebody is shooting him. Someone shooting him with the back.
Are you kidding me? Someone with a
fucking machine gun is shooting your boss?
You're like, take the shot.
I don't know, man. As you just said,
shooting your boss, which in this movie
is Dennis Franz. And not for nothing,
I feel the fantasy of most working
Americans is murdering your
boss. You see that play out
that your boss is dead, then you shoot
the other guy. I also kind of
think of it's more like one of those
situations of a how do you
shoot John McLean in the back?
What if you miss?
Excellent.
Because John McLean is coming for your ass
by the way. He's a team. He will come
for you. That's the plot of Die Hard 3,
writing some wrongs.
But yeah,
it'd be great if it's
I was like, yeah. All right, yeah, we'll do that, McLean. I got to, I just shit my show.
I really, that was fucking terrified. Fuck, I'm, uh, you know what, I got to go to the locker room
for a minute there. This crazy LAPD officer made me ship my romper. I don't want to sound like
a coward, but I do, I feel I should go home to Ellen.
If you get to be a heart attack and he just died, they're like, you killed him. Well, no,
it was blank. Look, there's no bullets. He's dead. Yeah, no, well, you know what? I didn't,
I didn't make bullets loud, all right? It is kind of great.
actually, because when the gun is going, and of course, like, anyone would look this way.
So I'm not trying to act like I wouldn't, but it is very funny watching Dennis Franz scared.
And he's like, he's got his, like, arms up in front of his face.
It looks like there might be shit coming out of that ass.
I think you were getting some turrets, dude.
Oh, great, McLean.
I'm at work, and I just sharded thanks to you.
Fantastic.
Oh, no, that's, oh, boy, that's some coffee and water mixed in the front of the pants there.
You know what, McLean, I'd fucking love to tell you that this was put.
wouldn't, but it ain't. All right. And I didn't even get to finish my goddamn Italian sub,
but I just shut the other half out. You call it put you, you know they're putting smooth,
don't you, McLean? You know I like having a full sub in my belly. But now I shit half of it out
before I finish. Thanks, McLean. Now I got shit my pants and I'm starving. I don't know why I'm
explaining all this. I should be going home. I should be going home. But this is also
tangentially happening when the airport panic is about to
because like now you know
Franz is on McLean says like let's go kick some ash
and then the panic happens
brutal part here
oh please with John Amos's squad
oh yeah when they're rolling out and this is
this is one of the first instances
I'm not saying it's the first instance in cinema by any means
but at the first time I think I personally
as a movie viewer encountered one of these
wish we had you back in Grenada
because we're just talking about this previous mission
and clearly this is where this was all set up
and there's this one guy
who is the son of Ryan O'Neill
I looked up, this fella here
oh and he was
he was for a while with
Rebecca D. Mornay.
Wow, good for you.
He's the filling guy. There was a guy in the team
that had appendicitis who couldn't make the mission.
So this guy's the last second replacement.
and he's like, oh boy, sir, I really wish I was with you guys in Grenada.
And John Amos has to be like, yeah, me too, Billy, and just cuts this kid's throne.
Yeah, it's a good moment.
It's a real good, and it's a good, like, it's a horror movie throat cutting.
Oh, yeah, it's a Mrs. Voorhe's quality throat cut here, absolutely.
I guess it's a good thing that he wasn't in like a good movie, like Paper Moon or something like that because then his father didn't hit him.
everybody know that story
no what happened he like
hit tatum o'neill when he found out
she got the Oscar over him
what Ryan O'Neill yeah is that right
yeah interesting that's like
oh right O'Neill is the biggest
fucking piece of shit is that right he's got
an ego the like I mean
if you read stuff about Kubrick on Barry Lyndon
he was a nightmare this was on like
in spy magazine
there's like a bunch of profiles of him
that have been very open about like I'm trying to think
I want to say the only
Ryan O'Neill movie I've seen as Barry
Linden? Like I never saw Paper Moon.
Zero effect? No?
Never. The driver?
No, I've never seen the driver.
It's good. Is he the titular driver?
Yes, he is. Yeah. You know who else is in that?
Bruce Stern. Oh, hey, man.
Pull over, driver.
Yeah, get driving, driver.
Bruce Dern and Diehardt too. Now you got yourself
a motion picture. Come on, McLean, you fucking
jackass. Yeah, he wouldn't resort
to fucking toilet talk.
Like, wait. Shaming
and whatnot, you know?
But so, meanwhile,
Holly on the plane because that guy
was getting itchy about the Robert Dobby stuff,
she has to shock Atherton because it's like
punching him out and it's like she stops his
The old lady's like, I'll get the cockpit
with the box cutters.
Oh, she's doing it.
We're taking them down.
We're taking them down.
Next stop the Pentagon.
Finally.
It is awesome
The idea that you can bring this on a fucking plane
It's outrageous
Crazy
Well maybe she said it was my fucking emotional support taser
And you got it on the plane
Got it got it got it got it
I do love this weird detail
We're both the people on the plane
This is 1990
So there's just a screen at the front of the plane
Everybody watches the same thing
And the terrorists in the church
Are both watching a Simpsons episode
Yes
Yeah that's pretty great
When the family is in the electric chair
Yes. Yeah, it's a Bart like humiliates Homer at the work picnic or something.
Sounds right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's the thing. The bad guys are getting away.
Yes. Which to John McLean doesn't matter. You're worried about your wife? Doesn't matter.
The bad guys can get away, they can not get away, whatever. But they're getting away and Franz and Dennis Franz and Robert Costanzo get stuck in traffic. They can't help him.
This funny thing, though, where the three of them get in the car, it's a weird, like, McLean gets in one.
side and Dennis Frans gets on the other side of the car and he goes, oh, hey McLean, say hi to my brother.
And it's Costanzo, like, oh, Merry Christmas.
And like, they're like, because if, if both gentlemen got in the car when they were going to and drive
wherever they were going to, but instead Dennis Frans runs into a cab.
Yes.
Robert Costanzo's sitting bitch in this police car.
Like, I didn't think that was happening.
Isn't that where the shotgun goes and whatnot?
You can't be sitting in the middle seat in the front of the police car.
No, you can't.
But he ends up going with the action news team.
They have a helicopter.
And like this is when he's like, oh, go, you know, go into the hell.
Go attack the play.
Look, we're not going to do that.
He wants this guy to play chicken with a 747, which the dude refuses to do.
And he goes, oh, all right.
All right.
What about on top of it then?
And then this is McLean jumping down.
And why I think this is better than Diehard 4 is he's just jumping on the top.
of this plane that's going to take off.
He's not surfing a stealth bomber.
Surfing or rolling over on asphalt,
like it's nothing.
No, and the plane is still on the ground.
Yes, that's the other thing I really need to highlight.
We get some great little fights here.
John Amos comes out.
Oh, man, it's a great, like, I'll take him.
And like Amos gets out there.
They get a little fight.
It's a really great John Amos being like,
I was just starting to like you, McLean,
which is pretty great.
and this dude just gets sucked
into the jet turbines
wouldn't that end your flight?
Wouldn't that just be the bones?
I feel like yeah
you probably can't take off
you know. If a fucking jacket
is ruining the wing
I don't know how to
that doesn't make sense
yeah that dude was a jacket
and a whole person
that went into the turbine
not only was a jacket going in there
but the person wearing that jacket also went inside
and the beret. Yeah that's Sully
was a piece of dumb shit, man.
Just, oh, a few birds, you had the emergency
land. Plains could take
whole bodies. Yeah, you're 120
pound man? What would
you do if a dozen
bodies flew into your airplane?
Well, no, exactly. No, Chris, you're making
a total point. Why is that due to
hero? It's not like he flew into a flock of
John Amosus. This is what we should
be doing. We should develop some type
of cadaver cannon to take down
airplane.
You just launch
human remains at
airplanes. We're leaving money on
the table by letting these
bodies be buried.
We could be shooting them at the sky.
We're not leaving money on the table with that, Chris,
because the funeral industry is one of the biggest
fucking rackets in the world. And organ
donation. It would have
to be sacrificed to give
an organization that needs
much more money, the military.
We just need to give them a little bit more.
Dastically underfunded. So
then, you know, Sadler's like,
Oh, well, my old buddy
John Amos just, well, he's
mince me, let me go see what I can do.
He gets, this is where, somewhere around
here is where he mentions like, now
remember General Esperanza,
you're the only one for whatever
reason that can fly this plane.
And all the other military guys are just
smoking cigars. Dude, we're back that
we're playing cards. We got to
fucking get a little early. It's a little early.
We taped a bunch of cheers episodes
off TV. We got those on. We got
Scotch going. You can't like be at the scene
of the crime celebrating how you got away
exactly dude you gotta wait till you
are fucking out of the air space
going down to South America wherever
just make sure please before you
start blaring slow ride
get into the air exactly
but I wanted to take it easy
and this is a fun fight with Saddle
a lot of kicking a lot of good
movement Sadler wins which is interesting
Saddler does win and you see
all the his Tai Chi training
has paid off you speed that
shit up it's fight moves
I was doing it.
That is something I always like about it.
It's like a Schwarzenegger, a J.CVD, a sly even,
it is so rare that they allow someone to just like absolutely outdo them.
Like they just, there's just not,
he's getting like a couple hits in the ribs when he gets close.
But he is getting owned by William Sadler.
Yes, absolutely.
And like, it's not like John McCain's not some fighting expert.
Which is what's great about this movie,
unlike those future sequels
not the third one but the other ones
is he becomes invincible and this is like
he's still in every man of course
he's going to get his clock clean by William said
it'd be great if Willem said it's like
oh fuck Amos
all right well I got to take care of it
and he'd get he's like there's only one way
I only fight one way and he gets naked
that would be amazing well
I just realized I've never fought with my clothes on
I don't know if I can remember the moves
Loop me up boys
McLean can't get a grip on him
Oh shit. Yeah, he's all greased up.
He's sliding around out there.
He's about to do it.
He's about to kick his ass.
But like he goes on one leg to get the shoe off and just falls over.
So it said what?
McLean gets tossed off this plane, but he grabs onto like the fucking gas cap.
Because he's been trying to undo the fuel thing before he gets kicked off.
And when Sadler kicks him, that's the only thing he's holding on to.
So the force of the kick in his body weight rips the gas cap off.
Yeah.
And then he.
falls down on the snow and it's taking off. There's this trail of gas. I thought he was going
to shoot the gas because I didn't know, I didn't realize the fire can jump so well.
Oh, well, actually busted the Myth Busters. Did they do this? They did this. They blew up a
plane full of people. Yes, I believe. Yeah, the Myth Busters first tried to figure out if you could
recalibrate navigation equipment to go 200 feet below sea level. Could we find that passport and
identification from the 9-11 wreckage that far from the plane? Let's find out.
Let's prove would Hans Gruber would have died if he fell from the Nakatoma town.
So it was busted.
It's a diehard two episode.
Let's prove could a TV dad stop a plane from taking off if you huck it inside of the turbine?
Alan Thick, what do you think?
Well, what do you do?
Man.
All right.
His last words are, my son's a loser.
Wait, so what?
So they busted it then.
They busted it.
Yeah, I got to look it up.
Busted.
All right.
It's been busted.
Ed O'Neill wanted to.
too much. I will say
it looks cool. I love seeing
this plane explode. It really goes
for it. Then what's also interesting,
maybe they covered this on their episodes.
The TV series MythBusters
tested the idea of blowing up
a 747 by a 90s stream of jet fuel and
rated it as busted. They found that jet fuel
essentially kerosene was extremely hard
to light in liquid form, especially
in a blizzard and the flames
would not have propagated fast enough to catch up
to the plane. Nice. Okay. So
Do they also mention anything about landing an airliner in fiery wreckage?
Yes.
Because now all these planes start like, we can see the land.
We'll just land in the fucking gasoline fire and into the wreckage of a previously blown up airplane.
And it's one after the other.
By the way, yes.
It's one after the other.
You see, it's like the triumphant music starts playing.
It's like, boom, bum, bum, and you see this traffic line.
There's one line that some guy on the radio, oh, if they could do it, then we can do it.
We're going to land.
We're going to land.
The first one's amazing because Bruce Willis,
John McLean is like,
well,
there's your landing signal right there.
Yeah,
so yeah.
You're welcome.
The guy comes in and like,
sees the wreckage and it's like,
it is,
it's right.
Like he's answering John McClain.
He's not seeing an explosion.
Because it's such a mess,
like why John McLean is doing anything that he's doing.
So they have to be like,
oh no,
he has to save the day and save Holly.
Even though everything he was doing up
to that point, including fighting William Siddler, had nothing to do with saving his well.
I think, you know, you're not wrong.
Yes.
The movie justifies it because someone says to him something to the equivalent of like, well, why do you care?
Yes.
And he goes, because I don't like to lose.
Yeah, okay.
And that's all it is.
I do like that he admits it at least.
That is a good thing.
Yeah, that's true.
Although, I kind of, I don't know, if you're cruel like John McLean is at heart,
don't you want to let them take off and not notice that
oh yeah and then have them think of their demise for a full
couple like 10 minutes while they're about to meet the ground
at on sure once you get up to 20,000 feet like the light starts going on like oh we're
totally fuck yeah oh we got no gas left yeah that's true
best case scenario we are landing and immediately getting arrested
and put into a jail underneath the jail I do love him screaming
speaking of Stallone, like it's
the end of Rocky, just like,
Holly!
Oh, yeah.
There's your fucking landing light.
Holly!
It really reminded me of that too, really.
Oh, my God.
Streetcar named John McLean.
I never want to be in an airplane crash
or a close call.
No, I don't.
But I really want to ride down that slide.
You know, I mean, it's just sort of like, you know,
it's just...
Especially in water, ice cold water.
Yes.
You know, they let you do that occasionally
at the aeronautical museum
in D.C. Yeah, you got to be there
on a special day. I need to
know what day that is immediately.
There's an online. Go worry. You're fine.
Could you guys light me on fire when I do this?
I want the full experience.
Dead. Yeah, dad.
Start screaming, Holly.
Before we start taking the video,
start screaming, Holly.
Holly sees, I do love
that it's all these people trying to get off
this plane as fast as possible,
we're all jumping down. And Holly McLean about to jump before her old lady friend who's
behind her by the way, real nice Holly. Honestly, old lady's a fucking terrorist. She deserves
the guy. She is a piece of garbage. But like the line stops at Holly because she hears John
yelling. And I'm like, why don't you get off first? If I was so, I'd be like,
what the fuck on the plane? What are you listening for? Your husband? Get off the plane.
it's crazy but they reunite of course we're making out we got fucking Dennis
Franz his last thing oh hey McLean you get a parking ticket in front of my airport
yeah it's Christmas and he's like tearing it up say McLean you ever think about showing your
ass it seems like it's going around these days Christmas goes both ways pal
I hear you and your wife are going to the motel
I've got a room in there for a turn.
Yeah, I know for a fact, every hot tub in that hotel can fit a maximum of three guests,
if you know what I mean.
Look, I'll even sit there in the corridor, be nice and quiet.
Lorenzo ain't got no problem watching, McLean.
Well, if I'm watching, I got to get cucked, so she has to pretend to be my wife.
Anyway, thanks for saving the day.
So I'm checking in with her, and you're going to come in after, right?
You got to keep the illusion alive, McLean.
It's called role-playing, you fuck.
I hope you don't mind.
I'm just going to be calling a honey a lot.
Honey, do you have the credit cards?
Honey, how could you do this to me?
Is what I'll be saying.
As I masturbate, McLean.
You understand it.
Every few minutes, you got to just turn around
and make direct eye contact me
without pulling pot there.
And you just go, you got a problem with this?
And I say, no, sir, and then you keep going.
That's how we get to what I call a screaming orgasm.
Now, where's that other half of the sandwich I didn't shit out?
Got to scrape that in the belly.
Need the protein.
Yeah, I might be shitting in the corner, too.
Be sure you book one of them hotels where when you turn the light on in the bathroom,
the fan goes automatically, you know what I mean?
That means no super H and count out the La Quintas.
I'm going to want to run their fan all night.
So this movie's over.
Let it snow starts playing.
I do appreciate, man, just like that first movie,
it is the end of the movie.
And here come them credits before any six months later,
pretty great.
So that concludes Rennie Harlan's Die Hard too.
Go around the horn here for some final thoughts.
Eric Siska.
Yes.
You know, on paper, I should like it.
there's stuff I like there's good fights I love the dummies there's stuff to like here I just wish
the location was fleshed out more like airports aren't very interesting and if you were
going to set it in one and I know like the Denver airport didn't have the horse yet but if there was
some iconography I can latch on too I think it made this more enjoyable sunlight maybe too I know
the blizzard's a Christmas timey thing yeah there was just it just doesn't quite get there for me
but it's better that it's one it's the third best diehard movie yeah there you go chris cabin oh yeah i like
this movie quite i mean it's always going to be it's always going to be one three two uh it's just
that's that's the order yeah uh this but to me this has everything i want from an action movie
the sequel itis it has is pretty horrible and that's what kind of dulls it for me a bit
is that it is a bit much but they scatter enough i'm following it i wasn't bored i really was
and all this stuff with the back of the airport.
I was like, okay, that's, I mean, like, oh, sorry it wasn't a factory.
Whoops, a dude.
Like, you know, it's fine to me.
And, like, I love Bruce Willis and I love this character up until he became, you know, Ben Grim.
And was just a rock monster.
But, you know, before that, I love this character.
And I think, you know, these three movies have stood the test of time because the character rules.
Yeah.
Steve Saneck.
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
when you just said that you'd seen, you know, Dired 1,
Dired 2, Dired 2, all 20 times each,
because you're a completest.
My family, we didn't like a movie,
we threw it out, you know what I mean?
So we watched, we were always watching one and three.
I've only seen this movie like two or three times,
total tops, including last night.
And it just, it's just, it doesn't work for me.
It's a, it's a week, it's absolutely the third best diehard movie.
There's no two ways about that.
But, you know, and there's,
I had more fun watching the kills than I would have thought.
but it is so convoluted and the sequelitis that it has.
It's, it just, you know, I'd rather watch anything else almost.
Yeah, no, it's, it's an interesting 50-50 split here this week because I'm with Chris.
I like this movie.
I don't think it's great.
Sure.
The sequelitis does just totally, you know, sideline it a lot of the times, especially like in those times where they're so nail on the head.
Like, how could this shit happen to the same guy twice?
Like, oh, fuck, I know I'm watching Die Art, dude.
Can you even stand it?
like I'm in a movie again.
Oh, fuck.
This is the second time I found myself
in an action movie.
Like, yeah, that's all dumb.
I really like Barnes,
the airport tech guy.
I think he's cool.
Marvin, the fucking creepy janitor.
Yeah, awesome.
I do agree, though,
if we could consolidate some of them
tertiary characters
into just one fella,
that would be something.
Dennis Franz,
an absolute delight,
just being humiliated at every turn
in this movie by John McLean.
Love that, love that guy.
He talks like a jerk
in this movie all the time.
It's really great.
I don't know. If you haven't seen these movies, you got to do it. You got to see all of them.
I'd say the definitive ranking is 13, 245, by the way. Nothing gets better. Nothing gets worse than a good day to die hard.
Really embarrassing movie there. But yeah, this was fun. So, you know, whatever. And Rennie Harlan, I'm starting to come to find the dude makes fun movies. I don't know. Oh, fuck.
When it's an action movie, the man knows what he's doing. But you've got to allow him to do that.
The Exorcist's the beginning thing
It's because it's not an action movie
It doesn't call it any of the things he's good at
At least even like
I rewatched Cutthroat Island
It's not good
But at least it's an action movie
So it calls on some of the things he's good at
I think Exorcist's beginning
Would have been better if
Playing like Father Marin's number two
Was Dennis Franks
Oh nice
I think we really could have done a lot there
With that word Christ compels you
Yeah just wake out
You're fucking faking it
You're gonna want to
bathroom with a fan going for this
exorcism, I'll tell you that.
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Oh, we're doing a Doug Christmas or something?
Oh, it's a Doug Christmas episode where pork chop is framed for biting BB and the whole town wants this dog executed.
Oh, wow.
You better believe it is a children's holiday spectacular.
Kill your dog, funny.
Guess I'm going to hate that.
For once in a lifetime, we are, of course, going to be doing a very nutty Christmas.
Oh, a very nutty.
Can I tell you a quick thing about a very nutty Christmas?
We were talking about a very nutty Christmas at Thanksgiving.
We're telling my sister about it.
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Oh, was that right?
I was not.
What were you doing?
Taking a shit?
I mean, it was a three-man microphone.
We didn't have the technical capability.
You were watching in the corner jerking off.
And we were doing the show.
Okay, yeah, no, I totally forgot about that.
So it's amazing.
You're going to be here for that.
I think this is going to be a lot of fun going back through the Star Wars holiday special.
Hell yeah.
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Absolutely.
And then the Nexus will also just be normal shit.
There's no holiday Christmasy times.
I don't believe so.
You know, there's that one episode of TNG
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Oh, no, those was Patrick Stewart doing.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm playing with my dickens.
Oh, Lord.
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Ooh, yeah. All 79
minutes of horror
Santa goodness. I cannot wait.
I love this movie. I think it's a great
little picture. It is not up there
with the all-timers, like Christmas evil,
of course. Christmas evil is amazing.
It is quite good one. Or elves.
Oh, well. I still have not
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that looks like fucking Kenny Loggins
or Kenny Rogers is like
I need to know the connection between the elves
and the naches. Real line
from that film. Oh yeah. I'm going
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Holy shit. So until next
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I don't know.
Oh, I know.
Oh.
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