We Hate Movies - S14 Ep715: Hypnotic

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

“All the Nolans [movies] are present here; I’m surprised no one’s a fucking magician!” - Steve On our first episode of the year, the four of us bend our understanding of reality to chat about a real massive let down, Robert Rodriguez’s Hypnotic! What in the world were they thinking with all these garbage twists? How much exposition can you expect one Dunkin’ Donuts-loving man to drop in a single movie? Does The X-Files’ Chris Carter have a case here? And is the public currently with Ben or did he lose everybody again? PLUS: Alex Jones is being railroaded by Hypnotics!   Hypnotic stars Ben Affleck, William Fichtner, Alice Braga, JD Pardo, Dayo Okeniyi, Jackie Earle Haley, Sandy Avila, and Jeff Fahey as Carl Everett; directed by Robert Rodriguez.  Today’s episode is brought to you in part by Microdose Gummies! Get 30% off your first order, plus free shipping today at Microdose.com, promo code WHM. It’s available nationwide. That’s Microdose.com, promo code WHM, for 30% off and free shipping. Microdose.com, promo code WHM. Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies needs! Including new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs! 

On this week's episode, the first of 2024. Well, we're just talking about the saddest X-Men knockoff this side of Miss Peregrine's home for peculiar children. It's hypnotic. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Zadak. Eric Siska. Chris, it's not a braid, it's a maze cabin.

No. And we hate movies. Hello, hello, everyone. movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. Happy New Year to you all. I know we rang in the new year in the clubhouse watching this movie. And we were like, this one has to be the first episode of the year. And it's a movie I'm stunned. Well, it's just proof that nobody saw it because I'm stunned. If more people saw it, you'd be talking about the stupidity that is Robert Rodriguez's hypnotic. My God, this movie. I think that a lot of people

did see this, but they erased their minds. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a total sense. I bet you that's how they're trying to get hypnotic two made is being like, look, they just forgot. All right. Look, somebody went, Fickner got loose and he erased everybody's brains. Yes, there is a sequel set up to this. This is where, this is a turning point, I think, for me and Mr. Robert Rodriguez.

Yeah. I'm kind of done carrying water for this guy. This is, I mean, well, this is like the nadir, right? Because like this is like, A, it's a secret movie in the biggest possible way. A, nobody saw this. B, like, it's so anonymous. Like, there's, like, certain things. Like, it's Austin. You know what I mean?

That's the thing that really stings. Yeah. That it's Austin. Well, that's Austin. But, like, also that it's just so anonymous. Like, if it's garbage and it's Robert Rodriguez stamped garbage, whatever, I can deal with it. Right.

But it's just like, I, you said X-Men. Like, I cannot stop thinking of, like, a what is a crappier version of a Nolan movie made by a a guy who knows what to do like it's not like he's incapable of doing those kinds of shots but it just doesn't have any of his energy this is like Rob Rodriguez

was in a bath with a lot of bath salts he was watching Inception and then transcendence back to back and he's like I can make it I can make that movie how can I do it doubly no triply worse because if If Transcendence is doubly worse

Than a Nolan movie Than a Nolan movie Then this has to be trip worse I'm not sure I might like this more than transcendence Okay I don't know It's shorter

That's a big thing It has the common decency To get out of my life In under 95 minutes I will say I also like it more Than the movie that came out last year The Hugh Jackman Reminiscence

Another of What is that There's we can be a nice A nice little box set of fake Nolan movies. Wasn't Reminiscence of Jonathan Nolan thing, though? It is. I'm sorry, Jonathan Nolan's wife,

but I believe Jonathan Nolan was the maybe a producer on it. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Now, Robert Rodriguez, I liked Alita Battle Angel quite a bit. I want that sequel. But I was looking at his credits today, and I was like, oh, James Cameron produced that

and wrote the screenplay. Maybe that's why it's good. Ooh, did not know that about Alita Battle Angel. it's and I keep I mean because obviously we're all the same age we all grew up with Desperato being the coolest movie that ever cooled you know what I mean and then similar that one two punch of that and then from dust till dawn if you're 13 years old at the right time are amazing movies and like that I was a huge Rodriguez fan and then like you know stuff like you know machete I liked I liked Planet Terror uh once upon a time Mexico I liked at the time probably wouldn't anymore I did not really like it at the time at the time. I did not really like it at the time. time. Yeah. Oh my God. Rodriguez. What a bumpy road. But yeah, I think it's, this is, we're fully off the turnip truck here. The, the bushels have fallen out. My God, this fucking movie. I cannot believe this. And by the way, the poster. Let's talk about the poster for a second. Yes, go ahead. Holy fuck this poster. I thought, I thought, because it's Ben Affleck and it turns out to be dominoes behind him. I thought these were going to be robot arms. I absolutely did.

I saw you letterbox there, and I was like, I'm not the only one. Yeah, it does. Well, actually, if you look at the poster, he kind of was like Dr. Octopus for a second there. Yes, yes. At the very least, I thought it would be a hypnosis machine. Yeah, yeah, no, anything would be better than what this movie is. Honestly, this movie, and it is the most annoying, twisty movie, because it just, it just lies to you the entire time, and then the credits run.

And then it's like, yeah, fine, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Exactly. It's like, this is one of the ones, my biggest, like, cinematic pet peeves, the misconstruing of a twist ending by just lying to the audience and being like, isn't it a fun twist? It's not, dude. You've just told me like garbage for 48 minutes. That's what all these twists are. This movie has so many twists and they're all just dumber than the last. And what is the benefit of the, the stinger on this? Like, oh, the Stinger. If you get like a hypnotic too great, you do not need to fucking put down the railwork to fucking get there. You don't need to do it. And also, no one's going to be like, oh, you know, I would love to do hypnotic too, but this, I'm not doing hypnotic without Fichter. I mean, if Fickner's not there, I'm not showing up for hypnotic too. I just, shit. At the start of this, I thought they were setting up Fickner as like a Dr. Mabooza kind of figure. Yeah, that would be such a better movie. Which would make sense for them, maybe sequels or something. But I mean, it, it just, it's like just, it's like just. It's like to. It's, it's like to.

unraveling on itself constantly and making it a worse movie by each twist. You're told me because the first movie is actually pretty okay, which is Ben Affleck, you know, very stock character, which will, you know, describe what the movie is very stock detective character missing his beloved daughter.

Rourke, by the way, we're just saying Rourke up and down this movie. Danny Rourke. Danny! Danny! That day in the park where my daughter was there and then she was gone. Yeah, my daughter got minority reported.

So minority reported. But, like, so that first movie is, like, him versus, again, this Dr. Mabooza dude, and there's, like, people with superpowers that he doesn't have them. And, like, that's kind of cool. This is the cool episode of the X-Files push. Yes, exactly. It's a cool, you want to make a feature from stealing an X-Files idea. I'm fucking fine with it, dude.

Like, I will watch it. Movie one, I was down for it. Scully, someone robbed a bank. with their mind. You mean like hacking? No. People just gave over money. No, Scully.

He made a lady get naked and then 14 car accidents happen. Dude. That is, by the way, that's a fucking Seinfeld plot. It is. It absolutely is. So we start with Ben Affleck. The most tired I've ever seen Ben Affleck, by the way.

Oh, man. This is like, you know, you see those commercial, those pictures that we We all love him. The paparazzi where he's got the dude needs the Duncan. You know what I mean? He's a tired man. Yep. Keep the Duncan going. Let him smoke on set.

Yeah. And let's get this guy up. Let's get his legs moving. You know what? I think he's, you know, he's a workhorse. You know that about Affleck. And I think this was shot only during hangovers. You know, we're going to blot out time. And, you know, the good stuff's going to be later in the day when he's feeling a little refreshed. The Duncan has kicked in.

When the hangover is happening, we will shoot the fucking 40 minutes. Jennifer, I have to drink. I have to be on set tomorrow and I need to be hung over. Yes. I need to do it. Is Ben back or is Ben not back? Well, this is the thing. This is my question. It's a wave. After I finished it

today and so, you know, full disclosure of course, recording this episode on December the 21st of 2023. Sure. So we're still in 2023 and I had this realization, oh my God. The dude was in like this movie, one of

my most reviled over the year, it turns out. I had no idea. And one of my favorite, like, I think he's fantastic in air. And it's insane that both of those movies were this in 2023. And, like, I think that's just proof that, like, this dude ain't dead yet. But, like, he needs to give a shit. And I don't know how he winds up into Robert Rodriguez movie in the first place, but this clearly he was not excited about.

Now, he needs to do that, like, Eastwood trajectory, because he directed air, directed Argo, the town Gone Baby, Don. What was it? Drill Baby, Drill? What was that movie? Gone Baby, God. And those are fine movies. Like, just keep directing and don't take every little part. Like, this is, this is not.

I think that this, and then what do we feel about the erotic thriller from last year, for the year before? I didn't see that. Blackwater. He's stooping somebody in that movie? And it Armas. It was kind of a fun movie. I kind of like it a little. It was sort of like a lot you know like a like a like a well done lifetime movie exactly i mean we well let's remember

we last saw him as auditioner 11 in the most accursed film ever made clerks three well uh no maybe maybe you did chris i did indeed oh boy i forgot about that you have to watch i know i oh man it's hell on earth wait chris was that also this was that 2023 or no that was 22 okay well here's the thing and i mean like you know, talk about being the right age for Rodriguez. I'm definitely the right age for Kevin Smith, but that might be it. That literally might be to use Chris Cabin's favorite metaphor,

which is now my favorite metaphor. The Coke machine might fall over at that point. It's been back and forth for a while with Kevin Smith and I think for sure. Did you, but did you ever read what happens in the movie? No. I have no idea. Because you just, you just hate, like, you hate like the idea of Clerks three, but my friend, the three of us, hate clerks.

three having seen it and it's a much more robust I mean but that is the that is the Ben Affleck trajectory right it's always winning them back and then losing them winning them back yeah losing them that is what he does and like the J-Lo like coming back to her and like you ever everybody thought they were getting married and like are they I don't think they are they are married oh they are they are married okay so it actually happened went to the wedding oh so maybe finally they it's good here with air but like

Also, I hear he's in this Aquaman movie. Oh, no, what? I do hear he's in it. No, I have her. No. Wait, hang out of saying, because I totally forgot that he plays Bruce Wayne and Batman. He's listed on, he's listed on IMDB as Batman. I bet you anything. I bet you anything.

It's just that fucking. Flashbacks. It's a follow up to that garbage stinger from the Flash movie. Where it's just going to be like, it's Aquaman drunk being like, oh, I'm unemployed. Baird-Ber-Hung-over. And then, like, Bruce Wayne. Like, and, you know, one of the, one of the best Bruce Wains.

I loved Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne. Like, he's going to come in for two seconds and be like, hey, you know, black mantas back. Well, got to go. Oh, yeah, that's that. That would be nice. Hey, yeah, Batman smokes now. And, uh, yeah, he likes Dunkin' Donuts. So, uh, that black mantas seems like a pretty tough guy.

Yeah, it looks like you're about to enter some choppy water. Oh, excuse me. I have to get all these Amazon packages. Oh, don't buy that rounder's poster in the background. That's just, that's just there. No, I'm not getting seasick or nothing. No, I was born in New England. I don't get seasick.

I'm just hungover. I'm upgrading all the 4Ks. You know, I'm getting a bunch of them. I just got to get a goddamn. Get the cat. Get the cat. It's coming. It's going to get a good guy.

Hang on. No, you can't put it over there. She's going to start stretching the Armageddon Cardboard stand either. Come on, babe, get, no, no. My memorabilia's getting messed up trying to shoot this Aquaman 2 scene. No, do not call cut. By the way, speaking of winning them back

and getting him, his next two, so he did air. Yes. His 2020, Clerks, by the way, Curx 3, by the way, is 22, along with Deepwater, the erotic thriller. Yes. 2023 is hypnotic. Then comes air. Then comes the flash

because he's literally Batman in that movie for a little bit. A little bit. Aquaman also Batman and now is two upcoming one is the untitled accountant sequel by the way in development no no and there's on the accountant

call and carry the one yes I love it love it look we can't look we can't call it autistic assassin we can't do it it's not we're not allowed to do it so we have to call it the accountant is that what's going on in that movie does that's it

oh I saw it man it's it's a trip then he's do well we'll probably wind up we'll probably all see it when the accountant two comes out because we'll do a little tie-in then he's remaking witness for the prosecution uh oh yeah oh yeah the remake he as a director actor

so all right well he's directing something okay so as of right now we're with him because air most people liked it yeah okay and most people like him as Batman sure but if this fucking uh because there was also everybody forgets because it was

bad. There was that other movie he directed where he's a gangster. Oh, right. Live by night. Yes, live by night. And like, what fucking trivia contest are you winning tonight? I don't know. That's 10 big points for Chris Gavin. Ding, ding, ding.

And if this new, if the witness for the prosecution thing ends up being like a complete dud. Yeah. Like that, then we're going to lose him again. And he's going to turn in he's going to be like George Clooney where you're like, oh, he's got a movie coming out. Yes, dude. George

with this. secret fucking rowing team movie. And he had a secret, didn't he have a secret Ben Affleck movie too? It wouldn't shock me. But you know what? I just wasn't Ben Affleck in that fucking, oh, fuck. Tender bar. The tender bar. What? I have not heard of either

of these things. All right. So here, I've got it by the way. Ben Affleck is just binary. It's ones and zeros. Yeah. That's it. It's literally ones and zeros. Things that, like, you like, and that they are actual movies, they actually exist. and zeros of like what oh that happened and we are now in hypnot

to go back all the way back to hypnotic we're back to it we're in a zero we're in an absolute zero oh my god reminds me by the way just thinking in terms of this movie and how terrible it is at every turn um how is the O in this title not a zero

and how is the I in this title not a one because there's technology involved too I think that would be a fun little thing I think I think as if it's not maybe before 2009, you're not allowed to do that. Right? I think the Simone legislation passed that we were allowing it. Although

too fast, too furious, that was after Simone, right? But it's not as literally in the title. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I mean, God willing, Desanantis gets into office, maybe we can challenge that legislation. God willing. Chris, could you bite your tongue for a second?

Yeah, bite it like all the way off. Sure. Yeah, it's never happened. Here's a thing to give back to Affleck in this movie and we're talking about the kidnapping scene Because the kidnapping scene is when he's really starting to do some talking at the beginning There's so much of him just like reading a card that's like you have to read this Ben

to explain what this movie is about to people But he's talking about you know Oh yeah, I was in the park It should say he's talking with a therapist And it's like you know Oh you're thinking about the park again Weren't you what was going on And so you see him in this scene

and it's like he's with his daughter at the playground or whatever and she's got this braid and she comes up and she's like oh daddy can you fix my braid or whatever it is and in this moment you hear him speak sort of like at length here because he's kind of just like mumbling

to the psychiatrist and I realized he's kind of doing like the DeNafrio kingpin voice in this movie because he's like this braid is only a puzzle your mother can solve And I was like, what are you doing?

You're on the playground. Yeah. And just this analogy, it's like, hairs. Kind of like the minds. It's a mess. Your mom knows more than I do. God, I can't believe I just bowed to Jose Cuervo last night like that. Oh, boy.

Well, because I mean, here's the thing. Like, Christopher Nolan reads a bunch of books and like, it's like, all right. So what is the mind exactly, yada, yada. What are dreams? Here's Inception, this incredibly dry, very weird. action movie, but you know that a lot of work went behind it.

Rodriguez, it's like, I don't know, what if everybody saw stuff differently sometimes? You know what I mean? Like, yep, dude, it's, you know what it is, honestly? And I brought up the X-Files already, but it's as if the dude was watching

like a sci-fi channel broadcast of Inception. Yes. And he fell asleep. And then like when he was kind of dozing, in between waking up, whatever, after the television broadcasts of that movie, they just put an X-Files episode

and then the two just started like blending together because that's just with this like some of the visuals it's straight up just inception theft yeah well definitely later on for sure but Robert Rodriguez claims to have written the initial screenplay in 2002 that actually makes a ton of sense

because it's so of that time like this movie does seem like something that should have come out 20 years ago so by the way yes his daughter is dirter she runs off he blinks There's a bunch of pinwheels as well, by the way. And she disappears because some pervert snatches her up. Sound of Freedom stuff going on.

Exactly. Exactly. By 18. I love this. These news broadcasts we hear, main suspect, 18-year-old Lyle Terry. You guys get a look at the actor that they hired. Dude, this is like a John Ratsenberger 18. What are you kidding me with this guy?

I can't believe. You know, sweetheart, yeah, let me fix your braids. Braids are the minds portal to the eyes or whatever horseshit it is. Wasn't it strange that we had that weird zip tie on our car door today? Well, go off. Go and run. Oh, no. I do like the idea that they would be leaving clues.

Yes. Oh, yeah. So in his little session there, he gets a text message from a partner. It's the, oh, the Bank of Austin, blah, blah, blah. The penguin broke out. Yeah. I mean, I do think, I mean,

saying sound of freedom, if you were to employ a Mormon gun slinger at this point, I think you would do much better than going on. And pushing this down and going bank robber hunting. It seems like a bad idea.

He goes to the bank. He meets his partner, Nix. Yeah. Well, first of all, like he gets in the car and he steps on that cockroach. Yes.

It comes back multiple times. I don't know why. I don't know why I either. I'm not smart enough to understand the significance of the cockroach in this, but yeah. Was the cockroach, hold on. So, like, thinking of the end of the movie, was the cockroach wearing a little red jacket

at the end of the movie? It gets up at the end and walks away. Dude, Ben Affleck's looking at this cockroach. He's like, you were in on this too. The cockroach, like, it gets up and then he looks down and the actual step on cockroach is Jeff Fahey all along. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Yes, that was our co-worker. Simon the cockroach. Yeah. But this tip comes in about the bank thing, and there's like a call it, call their listen to you, like 911 or something. And the dispatcher's asking,

are you in a safe location? This woman replies, nobody's safe. Whoa. Wow. Wow. All bets are off. Yes.

You're right, dude. Not a bet can be made because they're all off right now. Who knows where the stakes are in this crazy mind meld of a movie? Well, much like Riggs and all. kind of 80s super cops

he has to get cleared for duty first that he gets signed out for duty to Nix his partner who like yes yeah because all great cops are mentally unstable

yeah just a little bit just a little bit and I guess Nick's now that I'm looking at is this actor J.D. Pardo who is the lead on Mayans FX's Mayans

if you're watching that I am not that's the biker spin off of yes sons of anarchy right yes so there you're not one No, I

Nobody's watching I would also played a young Jack Torretto An F9 Oh I think that stands for Fass 9 Yes it does That's right

F9 colon the fast saga Yeah he's their fucking dead dad That gets killed in that movie Um Yeah so it's like We're gonna go Now the boss approved

To stake out only Ben Appleg So we gotta just Watch from this van here And we got some jokes Like we're definitely just doing that joke from Desperado in this movie? I can't believe that. I was stunned by this. It pissed me off.

It pissed me off too. Don't make me think about your good movies, God damn it? Oh, but it's a director Hallmark. It's something that's because it is, I think he tells it in another movie too. Really? Is that right? Anyway, let me Shark Boy and Lava Girls.

Yes, of course. I haven't seen that one, actually. The shark boy walks up and says, I'm going to bet you 300 bucks. that I could piss in that glass across the room and he ends up pissing on a lava girl. Oh no, you pissed on your sister? Oh, no. Just for the joke? Jesus. Now she's like sizzling in the corner. No. So yeah, this dude and Affleck go in the van. We're doing bad jokes. We're spying on people. And here comes William Fickner in this movie. Yes. And for a second, I was like,

okay. I mean, it's Fickner. Awesome. Yeah. Dude always lends a hand to any quality of movie he's in. I think he's saying, I know it's a lot of people dislike it. I think he saves that drive angry movie. I like Thickner going big and doing genre stuff. And this would have been an opportunity for him here. His hair is as big as it's ever been here. And I'm, I'm into it. I'm very into it. I really like it. He's holding his age. I think it's, I think, and I, I think he holds a meaty role here, even though it's, he's dealing with, you know, a script that I wouldn't give to dogs. and he goes up to some there's like some lady on the bench he goes up to her he's like oh it's very hot today and she's like yes it is he's like it's like a furnace in here and it's like oh and you know so that's

something right and he talks to the uh the security guards at the armored car or whatever like it's a sunny day and bed aflex like he's speaking in codes yeah yeah that's right the guards are in on it there's like an armored car and two dudes standing out front he's like don't guards are in on it. He like jumps out of this fucking band. All these dudes are like, no, wait, no, surveillance. And this woman, again, Sue Ellen Mischke takes her shirt off. She's just wearing the bra. And what I tell you, seven car accidents happen because there's a woman. One of the biggest parts of the, one of the biggest stunts in the movie, a guy going through

the windshield of a car in an accident happens because he was watching the. a woman in a bra. Yeah, a lady of the bra, all of them turned into the cartoon wolves just while they were in motion. Eric, thank you for mentioning the windshield because that sets up an incredibly, uh, I mean, it's, it's a, it's an understandable expectation, but it's a very foolhardy one, it turns out. Because when that dude goes to that windshield, I was like, oh, fuck, like, it's on. This movie, Steve might have said it's stupid, but at least there's going to be like crazy stupid action. Oh, what's that? Oh, none of that to return ever again.

That's the thing. It's like, that's what I want out of Robert Rodriguez. And he keeps telling me no. No, exactly. When he signed out to do Boba Fett, you're like, oh, cool, you know what? Yeah. Maybe it'll be bad fucking retrograde Star Wars horse shit, but at least it'll be cool gunfights. Oh, wait, none of that's going to happen. Yep. Because he does, he has two fucking levels, rowdy as shit or kid's shit.

And like, yeah. And what I hate most about his work on the Star Wars stuff is it kind of was the middle ground between that, which I don't want. No, no, no, no, no. Don't thank you. And then on this other end, it's like, this is just, this feels so sterilized in a way that when I want

my robber to be rowdy, it's not this. No, yes. Thank you. So Ben Affleck, by the way, we find out in that call, it's like he's not going for, they're not going to rob the bank, they're robbing a specific safe deposit box. So Ben Affleck goes into this

and he's like, I'd like to open a safe deposit box. And they're like, oh, right this way, Ben Affleck. I love this dude who working at the bank helping him out. It's like, he looks like if Dave Bautista never got into wrestling. Yeah, I thought it was hit at first. So he's

like pretending to get this lockbox here or whatever. And this was something that I was paying attention to the movie, but like, I don't know. I guess I just literally blinked and missed something, but like, how does he

know the number of the box to look in? They do say it at some time. Someone mentions a number? Okay. I think Nick's says it. He says box 23. Okay. Yes. And there's a lot of this movie that just erases out of my mind after I watch it.

So I'm kind of there with you, Andrew. Rightfully so. Like, to me, I have very detailed notes. My notes are mostly just what happens because I can't fucking go too much off the path because I have to remember everything. But Eric, I want to say something. You said, Dave Batista, that is exactly what fucking Robert Rodriguez should be doing right now. A Dave Batista action movie. Yeah. That is exactly

what he should be doing right now. And just his own little fucking weird, like, a guy has to avenge something. Good. Great. Go with it. There's so many of those like shitty ass movies. I saw, we got an email from a public relations firm trying to push Kevin Spacey's return to Yeah, dude, I saw, I saw that and I was like, you have no idea what we are. Peter 5-8 or whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah. And it's just a, you know, just like, you know, I guess taken and all this, all these movies that go down that path, like, not that Leibnizons is disgrace. I mean, Kevin Spacey is.

And that's people, you know, Tom Seismore, fucking Segal, all these people that had kept making these kind of shit movies. Oh, man. Just have Robert, swallow your pride and make some shit movies and have fun with it. you're the same age as half these guys like yeah you should be the go to one to do these movies he should be making like kick ass canon equivalent yeah like d t streaming action movies and it wouldn't be i mean whatever like it wouldn't be that much of a knock against his career because like he flourishes in that shit flourish in the putting the camera in the fucking shopping cart and all that stuff that you you know you've got your low budget film school that you do and all that

get back to his roots for sure. And by the way, I did not mean to say that he should make movies with Kevin Spacey. I'm just saying you make trash action. So I don't know if you heard me Yelp five seconds ago. I didn't tell who that was. I thought it was Chris for a second. No, that was me because I looked up

Peter 5-8 because I didn't know what it was and the wig that Kevin Spacey is wearing in this movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I just dropped it in the chat. Please. Oh, it's incredible. It's amazing. It looks like if you remember the middle seasons of full

house when Joey Gladstone had a woodchuck puppet for a little while. Yes. Yes. It's that is on top of his head and the world's oldest man has brown hair now and a sniper rifle. I'm, I'm waiting for them to credit the wig because

the wig clearly is going to have lines and speak with him while he shoots people. Well, actually the wig might have allegations against him. Might be. By the end of this. At this point he might actually, yeah. Wait, the wig is being accused of stuff? The wig is alleging stuff against Spacey, yes. The only time I'm going to get

if if fucking Paul Schrader wins his fucking war against God and gets to make his Kevin Spacey movie, I will go see that. Otherwise, I'm out of the Spacey business. That's fair. But it's just, I mean, this photo, ladies and gentlemen, I mean, the hair is terrible, but this is a movie where Kevin Spacey's playing an assassin. Get out of here.

Just get right out of town. at them. Can I be frank with my silencer? With Rebecca D. Mornay. Yeah. So, uh, Fickner goes into the bank. It goes up to one of the tellers, like, it's, it's getting pretty late. She's like, it is getting late. And she closes her whatever. She closes her booth. And then she goes into the, the room to grab the picture or to grab the,

the lockbox, which the lockbox only has a picture of his daughter, uh, his dirder, of course. that it says, who is Lev del rain or something. Find Leve Del Rain. Find Leve Del Reyne. Find Leve Dollar High. No, I believe it says Don't believe Lev Del Reyne. Don't believe his lies.

And honestly, you know what, Chris? Great point, dude. Because if this motherfucker is to believe that, to be believed that he started writing this in O2, guess what? I'm sure he fucking saw before. Of course. Two years, whatever it was. I mean, because this movie

does have a little of that. Yes, it does. It does. All the Nolans are present here. I'm surprised that no one's a fucking magician. I mean, you feed all the Nolans into a machine. Like, that's, it does have that algorithm flavor because you're just pushing all the little things that you like about Nolan movies

into one movie and giving it to somebody else thinking it will give it like a little bit of flavor that doesn't make it look exactly the same so somebody can't fucking sue you. The bridge too far is when we eventually get to the the skyline like in the sky

you know the up is down that it was just that is the fridge too far what does and what god there you know in something happens the beginning of tenant there's a big action scene in a oh a train yard that's uh oh yeah you're right he wants up so he winds up

what do you want to say there uh now he's chasing uh william fictor with this to get this photograph William fictor goes on top of the bank and there's these two other guys with him these two other cops that have been like following him my favorite line in the movie because I mean you don't talk about like you know

Memento that's because like fucking Guy Pearce is a live wire in that movie I mean the script is the script but like he is like the reason the movie is like moving forward by this great performance and Ben Affleck there's like these two guys that like you know William Fichter is like

go shoot each other boys and he's like what you guys are crooked who got to you and I'm like it's constantly like Like, they're in on it. He's in on it. This one's in on it where Guy Pearce has that frantic energy that is not here. Well, yeah, no, Ben Affleck has, like, mainlighting cold brew and still cannot get it up for this movie.

Like, he's just, he's not there. He just wants, there's nothing to. And I don't blame him because there's nothing fucking to this. No, nothing about this movie being awful is Ben Affleck's fault. No, no, no, no. I assure you of that. But it is just very funny to him. They're in on it.

Go get him. What? he says it's a lot of NPC half the time I mean it is it is a lot of NPC dialogue in the script and you don't even really know because it's just like one fucking hot dog in a gray suit after another but those dudes are have been in the van

yes time and now it's like oh William Fickner's controlling the cops maybe or whatever and then he just fucking Marty McFlies off the roof of his bank right he just jumps off and he's vanished and it I mean there's interesting stuff we come to find that none of the interesting stuff is actually interesting nothing ever happened like you'd think there's at least a body count in this movie but

reverse engineers and these guys didn't actually kill each other at the end of the movie it turns into the game for no reason where everyone's sitting at the you know at the lunch table and I'm like that doesn't make any goddamn sense how did so like all right so this division in which we'll get to what the twist is later they are staging these car accidents where people are flying through yes and So they have stunt people on staff? No, no, no, no. See, that's the thing. That is the thing that this movie,

the idea of this movie and what the powers of these people are is a fridge too far. Like, he fucking loses the thread. Because if this was just a movie where you're doing that X-Files episode, Pusher, all you're doing is, like, you are putting things like commands in people's brain and making them physically carry out things.

Yeah. But what this movie is, also tells you that these people can do not only just force people into physical action, they can create entire fake realities around you. Yes. So all of those car accents, whatever,

Steve, that shit's not even happening. Fake reality. That's all fake reality. But the hypnotics and the blockers, as we'll get to know them as. Good God, this is like some fucking canceled 1970s hockey league. You got the fucking Cincinnati blockers.

fucking Montreal Hypnotiques The crowd is out tonight for the Cincinnati blockers So by the way So if hypnotics

Could make you see A whole reality And completely shut out actual reality Is that what happened To Kevin Spacey Did he run afoul Of a hypnotic

Possibly You've done nothing wrong Everyone is against you No Those Christmas videos Were a good idea Meanwhile he's just like in a car in like what

looks like one of those like COVID booster sites in the middle of a parking lot. By the way, the Kevin Spacey Christmas videos, I know, I, I, there's way too many IMDB terrorists, but I do appreciate that people have added those

those. Well, yeah, you have to. What? What of his most chilling performances, honestly? A top five easily. Yeah. Is that fucking monster on cameo yet, by the way. Not yet. I don't think so. Because they're going to be met you because you know

what? It's going to be like, yeah, I'll do your cameos, fucking Frank Underwood. And then you know all them cameos are going on IMDB. I think he's been like doing like theater in either like Britain or France or something. Probably France. I mean, he's been doing work. He hasn't been like slouching. He's been

working, but not here. So yeah. So like this guy, you know, Fichter just disappears and nobody, wow, is that interesting? Later, very quick thereafter. Nix is like, hey, we find out who dropped that tip. It's this two-bit psychic who's off of this street. We're going to go

you want to look her up. And, you know, he does go look her up. This is when Alice Braga enters the film. And she's a good actress for what the movie wants it to be. I think she's a good actress. She's also, this was crazy looking at her IMDB. She's a, she's a Brazilian actress. And she is the niece of famed Brazilian actress Sonia Braga. Oh, wow. From Donna Flore and her two husbands,

Kiss of the Spider Woman. Of course, Backerow a few years ago. She's the crazy-ish doctor in that movie. But yeah, I think she's good, and this is Diana Cruz, the psychic. So, like, he rolls up here

to her little psychic studio and she's giving a reading to, I think it's one of the bikers from Mayans' MC, actually. It's like some huge biker guy or whatever, and it's like something about his dead wife or maybe this guy's got a dead dirt or two I'm sorry mama I'm sorry

he's a big sensitive I mean he's big but he's sensitive of course yes and then like Ben Affleck just kind of like storms into this woman's parlor for this and it's like I don't know man why don't you not be a fucking asshole and like wait till the reading's done you piece of shit well Andrew the thing is that he already knows that Fickner knows about his daughter he said he knows it I know I have no proof of other than this stupid polaroid, but I'm going

to fucking kill this guy. So really he has a burner under his ass. I should say on the roof though, before he throws himself off, Fickner does bring up Lyle Terry and like lets him know like, hey, I might know something about that or whatever. Who might, who has

I guess would be like the Mike Binder from Minority Report. Yes. A kind of character essentially. I mean, I just, also though, like, I understand. you know, there's a whirl, the creation all around, but like,

Fickner thrown himself off the roof. I'm just like, really? Are you, is there like a padding down there? Is that what's happening here? Is that how all this is working? No, Mel Gibson was handcuffed to him and he jumped off with him. Oh, good. Good, good, good. Well, it's funny because that move,

right? I mean, we should describe it, I guess, a little bit and then move on, but he just kind of rolls off the roof of this high-rise bank building. And Ben Affleck looks off the street. there's nobody there's nothing and then he goes it's just basically like a huh

and I'm like I don't know dude you gotta start screaming about that that's a crazy crazy thing that just that's a reality bending event that does not happen it's like Batman was here without costume exactly and it just moves right on

but speaking of moving right on this dude this biker does have a really great line here because he stands up because like Affleck's like oh yeah Are you Diana Cruz? You look like a bullshit psychic or whatever. And this dude stands up and he's like two feet taller than Ben and he just goes,

This piggy bothering you die? Yeah. Pretty great. She's like, no, just wait outside. And when he waits outside, you see William Fischer like, got a light. It's like, oh man, here it comes. Yeah. And, you know, she's, I believe at this point, Diana Braga or Alice Braga starts to say,

hypnotic, which we're going to save the rest of this movie. We are, oh, I'm a hypnotic, and the guy that you were fighting is a hypnotic, and he's a level five hypnotic, and I'm a level two hypnotic, and if you're minus the three and put pie in there, that's how you get what the powers are. What do you mean like telepaths?

No, telepaths just read the mind. Hypnotics reshape its real. Oh, God. Oh, I got it. Okay, now I understand everything. By the way, why are you selling lotions? Is it a tarot place? Like, there's a

A whole wall of like perfumes? Yeah, well, you know what that is, dude. It's like all the, uh, uh, uh, what am I trying to say? Like, um, uh, sense related therapeutic stuff. Of course. Like bath oil shit to come you down and, and whatever. I mean, it's all a racket. Oh, by the way, Chris, all of this is fake.

Yeah, these, uh, brain pills will help you block the hypnotic attacks, which are definitely happening all day long. Now, these are ground down turkey bones. And if you sniff this up, brother, you are going to live until you're 200. They do reference, they do reference later on in the film that when we get to the division, that there are hypnotics controlling, like, the news and the old stream media. Okay. Very Alex Jones right there.

Would love to see it. Also, hey, me over here, if we're going to talk about, uh, yes, the hypnotics as this group that, like, controls things. I would love to see how, like, the actual powerful ones is because as we said, end of this, it is like COVID tense. That's essentially where this ends. It's a bunch of real estate agents on a back lot

practically. He was literally Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios back on. Literally a backlot owned by the dude directing this movie. Anyway, so we're about to get some information here, but uh-oh, William Fickner

makes this big tough biker dude drive his motorcycle into the parlor here and the dude crashes through the window or whatever and he goes he's not gonna stop following you he's not gonna stop

he won't stop and this dude like smashes the side of his head onto a spike and this was another moment where I was like okay like in the world of the first movie where it's just William Fickner

as the X-Files Pusher character pretty cool move now onto the next adventurous scene I hope. For safekeeping, he brings her back to Ben Affleck brings her back to the jail and they're in a jail cell. Don't worry, it's not an actual jail anymore.

We just store stuff here. You'll be safe. He's using a huge cell as like a back office or whatever. Okay. I don't know what's, I think we're using the old coupon code for the set department. It's that or you have to believe this guy's

like into some weird fetish stuff, you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, also possible. I just, I can't deal with, with Diana Cruz's character, like, is, like, hypnotic constructs. You're familiar, right? Yes. And I'm just like, who would be? Oh, oh, good.

We'll sit right down. Thankfully, you provided me with a nice desk chair here. I can just sit and tell you everything. Are you ready? I'm going to turn the spigot on right here. The, the, the, the, the, the detail spigots coming here. Here we go. Actually.

By the way, you know, if we did like a near future type of thing, maybe this would make more sense. Yep. have come to light. People know about hypnotics. This is a thing. No, it's hypnotics are happening right now, Eric. You just can't see it. Yeah. Eric's right, though, because you could have a total like hypnotics. They've been

outlawed. But you got to keep it a secret if you're a hypnotic. You know what? You talk about minority, put out a little future gun here and there. Well, I like that. But that's, I think that's where the Nolan thing comes in. Because Nolan does not like to reflect things in media in his movies. Like, that's not how he

likes to reveal that things are happening. is like through the, like occasionally, I think an interstellar he does use that, but generally he does not. And I, I think that is a limitation that he's running with because it's just like, you open that door. You ask for five other doors to be opened, like that, that they can't do in this, whatever the budget was for this. And again, the movie, that would make the movie much bigger, which would be a great idea. Yes, please. As opposed to again, really, when we find out, it's just about a father, a daughter and a mother. That's it. It's beholden to this, like, I guess, sort of neo-noir detective type

of thing. Sure. I find my daughter you know, ever since my daughter was taken. You know, that thing. Uh, and she's like, oh, hey, instead of telling you this, you don't know what you end of X2? Yeah. So basically you see that guy right there? That's kind of like what we do. Uh, okay. All right, good. Um, yeah, but she's like, she's like, yeah, you know, I'm, I'm a hypnotic, like,

watch this or whatever. And she, the partner has come in at this point and she's like, you're a prisoner. Act like one. And this dude starts like sobbing in the jail cell or whatever. And then she's like, now you need to go get some air. And he's like, I need to get some air. And that's, again, like, all of this still, sure, it's kind

of totally fine. This is where she does start leaking in the stuff, though, about hypnotic construction. She's like, we can change the whole reality around you. And I'm like, hang on a second. Just make me pick my nose in public. Exactly. Exactly. So, because that's the thing, it's like, in

Pusher, if he says, pick your nose in public, it's like, hey, I got pick my nose in public. But in the world of hypnotics, it's like, you have to pick there's a bug inside your nose that's going to kill you. Yes. Also, you're not picking

your nose on the city sidewalk street. You're actually on a fucking cool beach somewhere. The powers are too big and the world of this movie is too small. Yes. And once you start telling me that like the division locked up fucking Del Rain in

Azcaban to make sure he didn't get out and because he was too powerful and was becoming like a cleric you know I'm already like okay can I see that world or am I still going to be dealing with you too well also I should say also I don't know

if we mentioned this but it might get a little confusing if we don't but she confirms at some point he shows her the Polaroid and with the name and she's like oh Lev Delrain that guy that's Fickner is Lev Del Reyne that's his name

and it's like, oh, I need to find this guy. And also the division, that's a, hey, Bob, just put that in italics in the first draft of the script because we need, like, it needs to be division M, division I, or the division of hypnotics. Division anything. Yeah. This just the division, that's a fucking cop show on CBS. I'll never be old enough to watch.

Well, hey, I'm going to tell you right now what they were probably thinking was like, well, we've pitched this to HBO Max or. fucking peacock, what we're going to do is call it the division. And that's going to be the miniseries and that's like, it's going to be the agents of shield for your bullshit Ben Affleck, hypnotics fucking team. Chris, I mean, no shit, dude, you're totally on the

money with that because that was another thought I had watching this movie. I think somewhere around the railroad yard chase scene. I was like, this feels like the first two episodes of a television show. This world that you are trying to spin here such as it is, is a world

that maybe if flushed out properly with like episodes and stuff is kind of something but hypnotic the 96 minute movie is just nothing I didn't tell you that the hypnotics were all terrestrial did I meet the first alien hypnotic

this is Farblog yes absolutely Far blog meet your new partner Marcus he she's in the middle of explaining everything about hypnotics about how there's a division of hypnotics and William Fichter is like super

is the most powerful hypnotic. By the way, Ben Affleck, for some reason I can't hypnotize you because you have a super psychic block that I don't know what that is. Uh-oh, here comes your partner. Right, right. That's also explain of like, well, sometimes when people have you know, emotional trauma the trauma

of your daughter being taken at the park, that's why. And it just, it sucks like as we talk back through this stuff after I've seen the whole movie and I'm like, no, No. All of that is fucking garbage. It's a total lie. You're setting up this world that again, in this part, I'm still more or less like, okay, this could kind of be something, right? This is still first movie a little bit. But like, you hear a detail like that and you're like, okay, cool. So he's clearly got something going on with him or whatever. But it's like, it actually doesn't matter. And that is a, could be a total lie. I mean, we don't know one way or the other, but like the whole world is, is phoned. baloney. So all of this means absolutely nothing. Yeah, and I need to see

like if you're going to play this game, I need to see those differences between the real world and this fake world that I keep on having to deal with. I need to see also the Dennis Leary led Blocker Rebellion. Yes. That is happening. Yeah, dude,

the best world's are on. Please, I need to see any of that. But of course, no, it's just, it's got to be, I mean, I'll say I like the Knicks versus Work Fight a little. It, it, It spices it up a little bit. It's set up nicely. He comes in because she has a line here.

He cannot be caught. And then the lights instantly go out on that line. And this partner, Nick comes back. And, like, he's all in silhouette right here. You don't even really know it's him at first. It's, there's like the slightest of a Dutch angle. Very horror movie-esque here. You know, so it's like, oh, cool.

That's terror vibes in a way. All right. Oh, yeah. I like that. And, yeah, this fight happens or whatever. This dude will not let go of trying to, get the gun and getting Ben Affleck. So this woman shoots this dude right in the hand.

But first, Ben Affleck handcuffs him to like the cell and he's like ripping his hand off. Oh, yes. Try to keep it going. And that is, that sort of planet terror-esque. That's scary. That's something. Yes. Totally right.

And she keeps, because she keeps saying like, this is what he's been told to do. He's not going to stop till his job's done. He'll rip his own hand off. And you see him doing the fucking Gerald's game on himself. You know what? You're right. What I'm going to do is I'm going to get him. one of these cells, and I'm just going to

close the door, and we're just going to leave him here. Oh, you shot him. Oh, you shot him right in the head. Okay. To hear her tell it, she quote, set him free. Yeah, you murdered one of my best friends, so... No, no, no, I set him free. He's going to

put on his red blazer and go have lunch for the rest of the afternoon. He's off for the rest of the day now. There is an open jail cell right here, right in front of where you shot him in the head. So, Now we're on the run together. And they're in like, you know, a greasy spoon kind of a thing.

And very similar to the beginning of Dustal Donson, like Marshall comes in. And he's just like, give me a, give me some chili quiles with extra chorizo. I just want to shit my pants this morning. Coffee's so black. It's sludge. Yes, dude. With the black coffee too, I'm like, dude, you need a, you need at least a seltzer water with this you know i'm gonna be making a turd trail before i even get back out to the squad car right and then

this texas cop starts to notice them by the way they are wearing to hide out they're wearing giant sunglasses and baseball caps with nothing on them dude put a t-shirt on that says i shot that cop a few hours ago you should be matching this much the blank baseball cap that is a i'm either a fugitive or a celebrity in a moosea you know what put some of that ghost pepper relish on top of that because I want to die on the toilet is what I'm planning to do yeah get all that spicy spice on there I want to destroy your toilet before I leave this small dime and also set the coffee pot to two cups but I'll put half the amount of water you would normally put in for that because I want it I want it messy you know I want it messy Lucille you know when I have a breakfast

like this old Patty back home she says my shits are like alien blood If they melt through the toilet, I have gone through five toilets in 10 years. And, you know, later on there's twists. I mean, maybe people should watch this movie before hearing our episode on it. But like, this is a construct too. Like, they're inventing this guy or making some unsuspecting guy eat chorizo. I don't know which it is. Yeah, I don't know if the, I didn't see that sheriff during the fucking red coat part of this.

But if they never leave the back lot. Oh, yeah, you're right. Everyone has to be. Oh man, do I get to play the sheriff on this attempt? Really? The guy who's going to shit his pain? Don't worry. The Treizzo and Black Sludge coffee is also a construct. It doesn't

actually exist. It'll feel like you're ripping your guns out, but it's not real. Well, could you call cut before I have to actually eat it, please? Well, no, I mean, you'll go and get your food from the empanada food truck that we have outside of the little, the set here we got. So wouldn't you

know it, despite their Kardashian Esk sunglasses disguised. This sheriff is like, oh, that's clearly them. And like, now this is a thing where because, and yes, Eric, you are right. If people were like, oh, maybe I want to hear a little bit about this movie

before I watch it, you probably should just watch this first because as we talk through this, it will be pointless for you to watch it, but maybe that's also a benefit to you. I don't know. It's Swiss cheese. This movie is Swiss cheese. Exactly, because in this part right here,

Because it's a fake world, this cop does this. But if he were a real cop, he would not. Like, he sees them. And it's like, oh, it's them. And this dude gets on the radio right in front of them. And it's like, yeah, I think I spy two people here. And I'm like, dude, what are you fucking doing? Well, a fucking Ben Affleck, the idiot that he is, he got this whole disguise out.

But he didn't wash his hands. There's a bunch of blood on his hands. And that's what the sheriff noticed is. Oh, don't mind that jam on my hand, officer. Oh, you got a cut on there? Oh, you don't got to cut. But then Diana uses the mind power, you understand, to sell. Call it in, but say we're headed north.

What's this? The dispatcher response and it's Fickner, I found you, Diana, and the cops arrived with Fickner to get them. The first movie is actually interesting, I think. Yes, but then this is when the first movie starts losing me because this is when they split up. And yes, we get... Inception slash Dr. Strange, which let's not forget that stole that from inception. The folding universe situation.

Right. He's like running, he's seeing the train yard sort of like pull this inception and all the tracks are bending together and trains are chew-choo and upside down. Which I'm to understand our hypnotic constructs. Oh. Yeah. That's what I'm too understood.

So what's the point of me putting it into your mind that the ground is in the sky? as well. What is the benefit? Is that a tripping you at dude? It'll make you a freak. It'll freak you out. Sometimes we just like to, you know, we hit this fucking J man, you look up at the sky. I'll make it look like dirt. Yeah. Fucking freaky, dude. And then Diana

runs over William Fickner. Yes. Or runs over some other cops that are about to kill him and she's like, get in the car. And she says get in the car because we have to, it's a, the Jackie Earl Haley segment can't be understated as the worst part of any movie that I've seen last year. Good. God. Because it's

she's like and she sets him up too. She's like he's the guy that taught me everything I know about being a hypnotic and also be a double agent. But we ended on pretty bad terms. What do you mean bad terms? Well I taught hog tied him in a bathtub. That's a bad term. Let's get let's let's let's go meet this guy.

Let's go to Mexico and meet him. let's mind control a border agent let us in. Oh, right, of course. I forgot about that. And well, remember, this is also when she does say, you don't believe them because you have psychic blocks. You are able to block out that.

You're a hypnotic's worst nightmare. Yes. Blocker. Jesus Christ, just stop. Quickly on the trip to Mexico, at the end of the movie, we find out again, it's the game and everything has been a hypnotic, whatever. And it's like, this is the 13th, time we've run this protocol

to try and get. So every time they have to go to Mexico for this part and like... No, I don't think anyone's leaving the parking lot. No, no, but that's what I mean. You're sitting in your car going room, room. Oh man, there's traffic on the way to Mexico. It's going to take six hours of us sitting

in a car because it takes us that long to get to Mexico. That's what honestly, you know what? Get fucking Lars von Trier to make the version of this without any of the fucking hypnotics shit on it. Just all the back behind a fucking 15 hour version of whatever dogville of a bnotic yes Steve to your point like later on in the movie when it's revealed that the car that they

drive to the bank in at the beginning is just a golf car aflick just walks out of it at least fake opening the door what is going on yeah you got to improv that shit dude I just think like they did not put enough thought into this stuff and like I think the the twist maybe could have been handled better if they actually like blocked it out not to mentioned blockers, but if they blocked it out, where you actually interact with the fake world, then you act it out instead of walking around, like, there is no fake world? I would love to see the scene where William Bickner, like, one of the agents, like, goes into his office and he's like really sweating it. And they're like, what's up, Chief? Like, we think we're going to

be able to break this guy. Yeah, he's a big blocker, but I think we can hypnotic him. And he's like, yeah, but we're like hemorrhaging money here. It's like, well, what do you mean? Chief, we've film everything on our own back lot here. We don't even have to leave to go to Mexico. What are you talking about? And he's like, yeah, but we got like 20 employees here at the division. And I got to pay for all them to keep up with these fucking object work classes at UCB.

Boss, boss, I was scared to even say it before, but I think this fellow here, I think he's a hypnotic blocker. Oh. I think he's both at the same time, boss. I think we got to give it up. Well, you know what? Maybe he is a blocker, but maybe also that time when you were doing that

scene with him and you went to pick up the phone and you did the thumb and pinky thing? Who picks up the fucking phone like that, Ramirez? Who picks up the fucking phone like that? What am I paying for these object classes for? What the fuck is going on at the division?

Fingers cannot be guns, folks. You have to hold a gun. Yeah. We're driving down to Mexico and now we're in Mexico. It's like, all right, Jackie O'Haley. He's not going to be too happy to see us so we're going to have to do this thing and like he's got some I assume she's a maid

if not his girlfriend or something because he's telling her open the door he's like maybe chairbound he's watching television Jackie Hill Haley has chairbound in the same way I'm fucking chair this dude this dude was not getting up for this movie you know it would be nice not to answer the door

yeah exactly he's like you know Roberta the door the door and it comes Ben Affleck and he's like Oh, you know, it's like, it's this weird thing where he's like, so it's you. And it's like, yes, that's me. And he pulls the gun.

But, uh-oh, Roberta is actually Alice Braga because she hypnoticed him already. Already, right before you even thought about it. Yeah, get fucked, Jeremiah. I just like, I already was screaming a little bit because in introducing Jackie Earl Haley to Ben Affleck, she's like, you know how you have like the most badass blocker because you

dug a hole somewhere and put a safe underneath the hole and that's how that works. Well, he did that but even more badass and then he pissed on yours. Yes. And I'm just like, what are you talking about? I think she says he makes your

blocker look like a little kitty thing that a kid would give a little kitty bank and I'm like, I don't know what any of this is anyway. So Jackie Earl Haley here is Jeremiah. starts flapping his gums about Project Domino

Come on. Stop it. It was a tool that only the hypnotics, the most powerful hypnotics could control. And Del Rain, he was the most powerful hypnotic and he was like, I got beef with Project Domino. And he erased his own memory after stealing the device so the division could not track down

Project Domino. And they called him Magneto. Oh, shit. I mean, a Magneto. Magnet Man was his name And right after he explains this He turns into Fickner There Jack Ehrlich Haley has like a minute of screen time

And he's out of the movie It's great and he's never even back In the Red Coats or anything like that But the best part is It's that Simpson's bit because he's like Oh so what's that You got a picture there

Let me see that picture And he's like yes I will go Oh no I won't because you're actually William Victor He's like damn it And he turns into William Fickner Yeah It's so fucking stupid and I love it.

I love it so much. So he's saying here like, oh, what he's telling him before he reveals himself to be thickener is like what Del Raine was doing with all of these bank heists is he left, would you believe this? He left himself little memory breadcrumbs.

You ever see that movie with memory breadcrumbs? Well, this is a different movie of memory breadcrums. Of course. And these safety deposit boxes have these little memory breadcrums. That's why there was no money

in it, Ben Affleck, like there was just a picture. of your dirder. Don't eat the breadcrumbs. Just follow them. You want to spin a top to see for in the real reality? No, those are movies.

This is real life. It doesn't work like that. Don't fuck around with me with this. I swear to God, you would run into me on the street and I would have no idea who you were. Are you like, oh, Steve,

you erased your memory. Why? You watched another Robert Rodriguez movie? Is that how that I would rather forget my entire identity. Dude, I would love it. if after we do this episode I could

like take a pill get a little injection or something forget that I watch this movie and then just have it live on by me listening to this episode and that's like my only understanding that the movie Hypnotic exists it's like well I must have seen it at some point

listen to me talk about it well yeah you will feel that way in a few years I guarantee it well yeah okay this stuff is all pushing out a precious like at a time you were kind to your father just push right out the fucking window

for hypnotic to sit there for a little bit. Just, it's happening every day. Wait, what? My father was William Fichter the whole time. Oh, fuck. Hey, Eric, give me that picture. Turns into William Fickner. Fuck off.

Oh, no, I'm going to go fight the bunch of Mexican civilians, assumingly, as I try to escape. Yes. Yeah. And this is what, like, there's a, he gets on a motor. And again, it's pretty cool.

He's got a motorcycle. He's got like a baseball bat. Like we're, you know, I don't know if you know this, but Robert Rodriguez has seen some anime before. So like, you know, we're doing like some, some, uh, Akira kind of shit here. I'm into it, you know, like. Sure, you know, and she's yelling the whole time on the back of the motorcycle, you know, like what you're seeing isn't real.

Keep driving because this is some more like, shit is happening. This is, she's like, oh, the reality is like kind of crumbling or whatever. And like, dude, part of the street starts falling apart. And I was like, your ass is going to get fucking. sued. I swear to God. Now it's all collapsing around you isn't that funny. I swear to God if I see a train. I swear to

fucking God if I see a train coming down that street. And so then it's like they get sort of cornered here and Fickner walks through the crowd and this is to be hands down the funniest moment of the movie where William Fickner and Ben Affleck I believe the direction was hey you guys ever seen them later

scanner sequels where they fight each other with nine powers. That's what should doing right here. Because the two of them are just angrily staring at each other. Ooh, it's funny. Yeah, I'm kind of tired. Can we call cut? Bob, can we call cut? I need some Duncan.

You get a couple of tips of Duncan. I'll get back to staring at Bill Fickner here. There's kind of some like I need to take a shit like looks on their faces. Yes, that's exactly right. Hey, Bill, remember we're in Armaged getting together? That was cool. Oh, 25 years ago, Bill, them were different times. Excuse me, Bill.

Hey, Jen. Yeah, no, no, I'm going to be, no, no, yeah, I left the chicken thighs marinate. No, no, no, yeah, it's not in the crisper, the crisper unbelievable, where the veggies are, you know where they, yeah, I put them in there. Uh-huh, yeah, I'm sorry, Bill, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, I got, I got to do this. No, yeah, no, yeah, I'd already chopped up the onions. No, yeah, I already did that. Uh-huh, babe, yeah, no, no, it's hypnotic.

I'll be able to get out. No, don't worry. I'm not, I'm not going to stay late for this. It's hypnotic. I'm going to be home on time. It's a nine to five, hunt. It's a nine to five every time. Oh, 501, I will be speeding out of Robert's backyard here.

Absolutely. Robert's backyard. So whatever, they wind up escaping it again. And this is what Ellis Broad is like, now let's meet the most useless character, the hacker man. We go from meeting one person who's going to help them. Yes, who does nothing. A 30 second chase scene happens.

And then she's like, now we're going to go to this. this person. And if you thought Jeremiah was a silly name for a contact, let's introduce you to River. Yes. River the hacker man. And again, she's doing it. I mean, like, you've already burned me, Alice Brock. She's like, now you've got to look out for River. He's a bit eccentric. He's just going to turn to William Victor in five fucking seconds. Like, I don't know. Like, it doesn't matter. You know what I mean? That's what a centric means is that you're actually William Thickman. Yeah. Oh, man. And then this dude is a Deo Ocanese. playing River. He's been a ton of shit, a lot of TV. He is, I believe, playing a relation to Joe Morton's character

in Terminator Genesis. Yes, I think you're right. Yeah. Okay. He's also in The Hunger Games. He's the, I want to say, in the first one? I believe so, yeah. Oh, really? I'll pull it up. I mean, I just, this, this whole thing just stinks of Johnny Nemonic to me. Oh, boy. Oh, big time. Good call. I just prefer the original. If we're going to do that, I just... Yeah, he played Thresh in the Hunger Games. Oh, in the OG Hunger Games. Well, here he's a hacker who does tell us that

worldwide players in hypnotics are controlling the news, et cetera, et cetera. I will say the one thing that's the most interesting thing in the movie is that this character who does absolutely nothing does make his own Mountain Dew, which I found interesting. Yeah, dude, that's just that's that man's

urine with sugar. I was kind of curious. about that. He's crazy, you see. Yeah. See, I just hypnotic my mind a little bit and it's not urine anymore. Yeah, I just, I just trink myself into drinking my own piss, but I think it's Mountain Dew. Oh, you want some filet bignon. Oh, no. No, I also, no, I do have the code red, but I put my own blood in it. Oh, no. It's bad stuff. Frothy bloody piss. Oh, God. Yeah, so this dude. Yeah, you know, you're right, it is the laziest thing ever to just be like, oh, yeah, and all these hypnotics, they're all high up in society. Oh, are they? Uh-huh.

Anyway, let's not talk about it. Yep, exactly. There's a headline that is definitely insinuating that the hypnotics were pushing for Brexit, which is truly something. Uh-huh. Yeah, the hypnotics, uh, we're doing Brexit. They did Brexit, folks. It's the hypnotics. Yeah, Sandy Hook was the hypnotics. Yep, yep, school shootings, hypnotics. Uh, uh, school shootings, hypnotics. Planes into skyscrapers, hypnotics did that too. Oh, I'm confused. Do I like hypnotics? Maybe they seem to be fighting the globalist elites.

Your divorce, hypnotics. My divorce, hypnotics. That guy that beat me last year at the firehouse chili cookout, hypnotic. What is happening, folks, is the hypnotics make me look much fatter than I actually am. You looked at me without a hypnotic construct. You would see how beautiful I am. Yeah, the hypnotics add 10 to 15 pounds. See, they use their hypnotic constructs to create a world where I am fatter.

Then I actually am, when I actually have an incredible six-pack that goes right down there. It's defined, folks. Yep, you guessed it. The reason I constantly smell like stale cheese, hypnotics. They change the smell sensory. Yep, the hypnotics have convinced my children we have an awful relationship with one another. yeah it's all the hypnotics but i am trying to become a hypnotic to create a world where i love my children but it's sort of like oh well let's look pull up your wife and his wife is named

vivian oh isn't she uh and it's some actress and like he's got like some flashbacks with her and then he's like yeah it's my beautiful wife who my beautiful durder came from and it's like i don't know about that. She seems to be a hypnotic herself. Like, she's on the hypnotic registry, I guess. Right. She's a division agent. They're like, wait, that can't be. That's impossible. A level four, folks. A level four.

Whatever a hypnotic moves into your neighborhood, they should come house to house. They should. You know, if they're hypnotic. Just so you know, I could alter your reality. And I did that and I abused some people. So I have to go door to door. And you just make yourself, you could be the Easter buddy going to do it. Yeah. Hi. name's Steve. I'm a hypnotic. I was telling

people, I was convincing people I was 5'9 for a while. Now I did my time. I served my time and I learned a lot from my mistakes. I shouldn't pretend like I have more money than I do. But it's just a hypnotic way, you know? It's just what we do.

Steve, wait, is like, 5'9, you were really that brazen with that line? Can't even go for the 6th. You can't dream big. No, no, no. Hey, so in a situation like this Where you don't know, you know, what end is up and who you can trust It is best to pick up a phone with an unknown call

A hundred percent You gotta get right in there and see what that dude has to say A blind call And wouldn't you know it, it's William Fickner calling him Right, right, right What, he like tells her to put three bullets in her head or something Yes, yes And this scene is actually kind of cool

Like this is actually the last cool scene in the movie actually Scissors You are right dude This is, yeah, wait, The boat's fucking floating away. This is the last time you'll see an interesting part of this. Because like William Victor gets at his head and it's like, listen, she's against you. You know that she's against you.

And he's like, what? I can't. And then like he hangs up quickly. And then she's like, hey, is everything okay out there? And he's like, yes. And he like picks up his gun. And he's like, I don't want to pick up my gun. And he keeps putting it down.

But he keeps picking it up. And then there's like scissors, which is pretty cool. I think it's kind of neat. You know, like it's all neat until you realize what's actually happening. and then it's fucking terrible. But yeah, she's taking a sexy shower here is the idea. And yeah, he refuses to kill. And this is kind of funny, him like stabbing the scissors into the doorway.

And he's like, nothing. Yes. And then like it's like, oh, what's going on here? Because he looks back where he, you know, thrust the scissors into the doorframe there. And oh, now the scissors are gone. And she's asking him like, oh, hey, you know, what's going on? And then she goes, do we? have trust. Oh.

And they just start making out and then like fall down into bed and you're like, wait a second. What is going on here? Hypno sex. Yeah, dude. Oh, God. I don't like the looks of this. Oh, God. Do you know, do you understand what's happening here? A hypnotic is having sex with a blocker.

They could create a child that could hypnotic block. And it would be. It would be disastrous. Because then he wakes up all come drunk and he goes on the computer. And so it's looking up. his wife and the name

you know the picture changes Vivian Rourke becomes Alice Braga what and the Project Domino is actually his daughter

what and then Domino's Dominique Rourke and this is when he's just like okay you can come out now and I'm like who is he talking to

and apparently he's talking to the entire movie because he's just like you can come out now I've figured it out. And then everyone in the movie is wearing a red jacket. And that is to let you know that they've all been in on it together. Right.

Nix is back from the dead. That was the partner who got shot in the head. It's all been a ruse, a mind ruse. Now, mind ruse aside. I really get a job. Original title of this movie Mind Ruse, but they were like, too many Americans aren't going to be able to know what the word ruse means. better fucking nix that title.

What does I say? No, just the overnight guest politics of what's going on you. I mean, forget the fact that this is all a construct and it's fake, whatever. So, on the run from some sort of people trying to kill you

and may have kidnapped your daughter. Great, Ben Affleck. You're in this hacker's underground bunker, dude likely drinking his own urine. Got it. Nice. This guy says he has to run like some sort of deep hack and it's going to take several hours.

Okay. This leads to the showering and then the getting down to the fucking and it's like, dude, this guy out there, River, you know, he's helping you out, he's doing this hack for you. You're just banging

some woman that as far as you know you just met feet from this guy while he sleeps doing your hack, it's so rude. It's rude, but you know, when the mood strikes. Yeah, awesome. But you don't know that river isn't into it a little bit. I mean, he's entirely possible.

But then speaking of into watching Chris Cabin, then you start thinking about what the reality actually is. And now you have to ask yourself, because Ben Affleck's character, as far as he's concerned, he has slept with this woman. So do they actually do the deed in front of all the people wearing the red jackets

in the fake world? Or did she plant in his head some sort of sexual experience? Or a little bit, or halfway through or like, he's like, they're both fully clothed. but like they're going through the motions. And he's like, eh,

eh, and she's like, yeah, that's great, babe. Oh, if she's bad enough, she can just hip,

know the rest of it and get out. Oh, there you go. That's, that because we end up finding out that this has happened, what, 12 times so far.

So you really, you could have tried it a bunch of different ways. I'm telling you at least one time, they made sure that to watch Ben Affleck jerk off, like just him alone with himself. You think they definitely did that. a good point, Chris, you think they'd be harvesting his seed, which could bring about

a new domino. Oh, absolutely. Which is a mind powerful girl. If you were, if Fickner was serious, he would be milking this guy daily, getting it already. But you're totally right, Eric, and Chris, because that's the idea is that we find out, like, you know, like,

Fichter's like, yes, the idea is that if there's two, if two hypnotics were to have a child, it would be the most powerful thing in the world, thus your daughter was the most powerful. Like, I don't know, like, Haven't there been male and female hypnotics throughout millennia? Like, just like, I don't know, fucking mix him together. See what happens.

What is the history of this? When did the division start? When did hypnotics become known? Oh, don't. Please do not do like the catwoman intro of the hypnotic. Cleopatra was a fucking hypnotic. Oh, no, no. Actually, no, I was reading online.

It's a hypnotics have only existed as long as 5G has existed. Oh, I see. Oh, yeah. That's 5G. That's how that. Told you. I just and it's just like,

yes, this is the 12th time. Tell us where your daughter is. And he's like, I'll never tell you. And I'm like, what are you talking about? So we just,

again, he's walking through the entire movie we've just seen since Jackie Earl Hurley because they only had him for a day. And it's just like

everyone who you've seen is in a red jacket. It's a sound stage. Yes. cars have become golf carts. It is even cheaper than you think like the police station is just a sign that says police station in an empty part of the lot. You just walk into that section.

And two minutes of us flashing between the redcoat world and the hypnotic world. And I'm like, you motherfucker, I get it. Like stop fucking parading that you have this point. No, I want to see him pick him his cell phone and it turns into one of those kids' cell phones that has candy inside of it. He's like, what? Hot tamales, what?

It's kind of, it's those chalky things. I don't like them very much. And so this is what, now the movie is in this form, which is, so you guys had this daughter together, she turned out to be like the most powerful mutant of all. Don't say that.

Oh, I see that. said mutants. Yeah, we're using hypnotic this week. And the daughter's name was not mystique, it was mystic. But like so, okay, we had this daughter. She's a very powerful hypnotic and the division

wanted to weaponize that, help her and blah, blah, blah. But you, Ben Affle, like, you selfishly hid her away and then erased your memory of where you put her. So we've been repeatedly doing this movie 12 times And every time it fails We wipe your memory and try again

And for you folks And the big comfy movie theater seats Where you're definitely watching this Get ready to fucking watch The Dogville version of it Because we're gonna do the whole movie over And I mean also Wouldn't you be like

Hey Bill or hey Mr. Delrain Or whatever your fake name is in this movie Like when do we get a break Because I've been doing this I have played the biker in the in the uh in the uh in the in the hypnotist shop for fucking seven weeks now and i've missed my son's birthday uh st patrick's day is tomorrow i had plans with friends what what are we talking okay i'll take care of it all i'm gonna hypnotic your kids so that he feels like you were at

the game okay i'm gonna i'm gonna get i'm gonna hypnotic a gift for your wife for the anniversary you missed i i look i did enjoy watching ben afflick mask debate. I will say that. That was great. But I need to get home. I'm just going to point out, this is totally unfair because like four turns ago, you told me that I didn't have to play the cockroach anymore and Levi was going to play the cockroach. And I would get to play fucking bank security guard who helps out with the, you know. It's an enormous guy in a cockroach. I mean, like, what is this even accomplishing? What are we doing here? Well, and look, I I don't want to make a big deal about this,

especially while I'm in this fucking costume. But I asked for us to get sugar-free Red Bull, not the normal kind. I don't know why I have to keep on asking to get a little bit, just some courtesy, please. Can someone make his mind think that he got the sugar-free one? I also love the idea. We get a little, we get a little sassy, too, about the script

because he's like, oh, Victor is like yeah of course we put we put you through the perfect puzzle that you'd have to solve you know you're the cliche detective looking for his daughter I'm like oh we're winking at each other right we're having a little fun

here oh so we just start repeating things he's back at the therapist's office we see it's fake we see it's quote unquote real I remember her hair he steps on the cockroach oh yeah that's if you're the therapist you're like all right so I'm just going to have that quick scene with him you're not going to need me for like a couple

days, right? Because they're going to go to Mexico tomorrow. Okay. That's pretty good. And you get the call like, yeah, no, we fucked, yeah, we fucked it up again. We need you for the 13th time to play the therapist. I'm on a fucking plane right now, okay? I'm going to Cabo. You told me I had the rest of the week. I'm sorry. You're actually not

in a plane. I told you that, but I made a construct in your mind to make you think you were on vacation. You're actually in the trailer on the lot. Oh, really? So you're taking the money when I paid extra for the Wi-Fi. Someone needs to. I need to fucking, I want to talk to you

a little bit. You can write to Fickner's bank account. Yeah, dishypnotic me. I'm going to fucking talk to you about this. Absolute completely throwaway detail here that they set up could be like maybe something, but the movie forgets that anyone ever

said it. And I think it's Fickner who says, or no, maybe it's some analyst talking to Fichter. Somebody's like, oh, by the way, all of these like constant resets are destroying this dude's brain. So you know, just put

that out of that. And you think like that might be something for anything. Oh, man. The human brain can only go through so much. Maybe two or three more times of this. And I feel like someone else is like, yeah, two or three more fucking times. I'm going to be fucking sick of it. I save it for the sequel. By the end of it, he's drinking Starbucks because his brain just can't hold

what he really is anymore. Yeah, Mr. Delwant, do I need to take my shirt off? in every version? Does that always have to happen? Do my bodacious tits always need to be shown? Yeah, especially because I don't think that that's a detail that Ben Affleck even sees happen. You know what? Just for, you know, yes, you do, but I would appreciate something lacy or something that holds together a little looser, I would say. But what, all right, so maybe the first time you try the detective story, that doesn't work. What if it's like, oh, hey, why why not create a reality where there's no hypnotics at all? And, like, it's just like somebody being like, hey, uh, wouldn't this picture weird? Everybody, like, you know what I mean?

Like, it's just like William Fichter is in, they're both like in an office and William Fichter's like, hey, check out this picture by my daughter. And like, he just looks at, see anything interesting about that picture? Like anything you want to talk to me about that picture specifically? That's, you could just do that and that would take so much less time and energy. Yeah. You know, boss, I was thinking, you know, we just keep, we keep doing these resets and everything. I don't know I mean the morale out there is pretty

tainted it's getting close to Christmas what if we did one where you know instead of all that detective stuff he has to learn the magic of Christmas and we hypnotize him to think that the magic of Christmas has something to do with his fake daughter they do a hallmark movie where

he is like he's a big ad exact and he has to go to Alice Braga's like Christmas tree farm and she's like I don't know it's just it's so difficult here I don't know if we're going to be able to save the Christmas tree from Del Rain and like yeah pictures like I'm gonna I'm gonna put up a condo in this thing

you know just go totally nuts with it fuck that would be great I don't know I don't know if we can keep on doing this boss Lisa is worried about giving him cancer because we keep on resetting him every fucking time 13 somewhere well 13 times a charm in its own way I guess

because by this point he has and the movie because it's the movie I don't don't know what the actual answer is. I don't know if he was faking the whole time. I don't know if he broke free. I don't know if the reset didn't work this time. But he just decides, fuck it. And he's

driving this golf cart thinking it's like an escape van or whatever. Trying to like get off the lot is the idea. And it is just these people looking like they're trying to sell you state farm insurance. Chasing this golf cart around Robert Rodriguez's back lot. I mean,

this is low. He hits one of them. He does. Yes. whoever told Rodriguez that these jackets look good was a mistake. It's just that they were lying to him. It needs I understand wanting to, you know, make them a team, make them all visually something, but a bright red jacket ain't it. This sounds like a classic James Cameron prank. Oh, I see. He was asking for notes and he

saw the red coats. He's like, yeah, that looks great. Did you make them redder? Is that possible? A little boxier. No, it shouldn't like actually fit. a little box here on the shoulders. And so he's speeding off and then. So if this is all fake, uh-huh. Great question.

Why? Okay, here's, this might be a... Any question you have, it's great. I'm just curious now because so he speeds off, you know, he's getting away and they're like, you know, after him. And you have the, the, the, uh,

Alice Braga's character and Fickner I think and some of the other red coats around or whatever and they're like oh this what is Lev Del Rain what is it what is it oh it's just an anagram for Deer Valley Lane that's where we got to go and I'm like but if you guys are all hip

to it and it's all fake because also Ben's faking them at this point oh shit now I'm starting to hypnotize myself everything on the on the back lot was fake once he breaks out of there this is the realish world

yeah so Lev del Reyne isn't a name it's a trigger to remember her location yes it's dear valley lane yet Vickner's only identified as Delray and it's just like is that did did

did you hide her in a way to like was he named that and you found an anagram's streets to put it on or I think it's the other way around I think he's using the name in the fantasy to push what then why would everyone else

be using the fake name for him? It's a great question here's something that's also a great question why would you hide your daughter what has to be a 17 minute drive total tops total tops from the division you want to go a little

a little further in sight my friend there's just like wait a minute I drive farther than that to get the Burger King every lunch. What do you do? She was that close. And we find out, welcome to the movie Jeff Fahey. This is disgusting. This is what I, here's the thing.

You know in your movie you got a Jeff Fahey casting and you wait till the last 15 minutes of this movie to show me eat shit. And he's looking thin and older. It's looking great, dude. He looks like John Johnson. He's got a shotgun

too. It's pretty cool. But what we find out is Jeff Fahey and whoever plays Jeff Fahey's wife, I can't find her right now in the cast list thing, are Ben Affleck's foster parents. Yes. So you are running a scenario that's costing you millions

of dollars a day to find where this little girl is. And you're not checking the next to fucking kid's house. You're not checking grandma's house. You're not going to knock on her door at least once or twice. She lives less than 20 minutes away. I know.

well it doesn't matter because we're going to hypnotize we're going to hypnotic him it doesn't matter all right but you got to worry about these things the woman playing so Jeff Fahey is Carl

and this Sandy Avila is Delma Everett is the lady packing the shotgun yeah they're like you know get off my property types so he shows up and like hey took you long enough and I'm like

what are we talking about it's so great it's so good hey took you long enough and he goes into an area into a house that is full of dominoes ladies and gentlemen

dominoes piece by piece you understand if you knock one domino over and I also feel like this is like a point of etiquette thing if you see an elaborate

domino demonstration it is not up to you to touch that you've got to ask you have to ask I was sure done. I could not believe this, dude. The piggish

behavior. You don't know what this was set up for. You don't know who did it. What are you doing? I don't know. I mean, all these resets have turned his brain into mushroom soup. And also, I mean, at this point, he might think he's in a hypnotic again. He might be in a place

where it's just constructed. You feel like you're missing a scene or some scenes with him and the daughter. There should be more than just at the park where she's abducted. Maybe they did dominoes together. maybe there's a, there's a way to tie this together a little cleaner. Oh, I'm sure. That they call it an actual movie.

But he knocks over these dominoes. They spin around all over the house. He fucked up her TikTok video, by the way. That's what this was. Fahey was like, I got the camera. Oh, shit. Oh, damn it. Dang, damn it.

Taylor Swift's love stories playing in the background. Exactly. You damn, fool, that would have gone viral. Shit. Oh, shit. goes all that YouTube ad revenue money yeah well hey you left her 12 years ago

so we had to we had to pay for somehow she's a YouTube celebrity she does all the dances I've tried to throw the hard ones at her she gets them all they got that ice bucket challenges over oh boy yoie man that was a long time ago

she probably wasn't even born yet probably not But no, but all the dominoes go down And we go into a room with a girl That is significantly older than the other girl that we saw So that's so time has years They mentioned four years Yeah, four years they waited to

She had to develop her powers in hiding So that she could maybe help dear old mom and dad In this standoff we are Was all coming to a head here at the fake ranch Which yes is also fake Day in and day out, Fickner for four fucking years was running scenarios and fucking get

costumes made and he can't check this dude's personnel file for fucking next to kid. You can't look at it's on his insurance form. Who are your parents? I mean this is this I got to throw a little of this to River the hacker.

Seems that guy with him on the keyboard a little bit there too. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, I'm sure the information was they just didn't bother to fucking look at it. They go to the same Starbucks. They go, like, you know, Jeff Fahey has gone to the same Starbucks as William Fichter in the red jacket. He's like, you're going to, oh, man, you guys got to take fucking forever.

I can't believe it. They have purchased toilet paper at the same target at the same time. And it's like, they saw each other in the fucking self-checkout. It's like, shitting, huh? Yeah, shit. Shit, huh? Or you could just get this, guys, you don't have to wipe. anymore, all right? Not at all.

You hip, you hypnotic yourself and everyone around you that it's fine. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. I saw you at the Bev Max the other day. Yeah, I would love that place. Yeah. Oh, God. It's amazing. You can get Coors Light, six-pack for $5. Unbelievable.

So how's all your fake scenarios going? What number are you up to now? Nine. Oh, boy, that sounds like a lot. He's talking about it in the story because he's like, there's no possible way these people are that close to me. What's your religion again Hypnotics? That's your religion? Okay.

That's interesting thing. I sure hope you find that special little girl. By the way, like and subscribe our YouTube channel. It's fantastic. She does all the dances. Dominique's domino dancing. By the way, have you been to the Longhorn?

Oh, it's amazing. They make you a steak you wouldn't believe. It's the last Longhorn Steakhouse. And then for like, two seconds the movie turns into a thing where like everybody's turning the table on the wife here she's now evil alice braggis she's she's evil and it's like this um you know a jeff fey and uh the the wife there um sandy a via delma and what's his name carl yeah uh they're like oh we sure missed you sweetheart oh we haven't seen in so long and then she starts turning like

what's happening here why are these people being nice to me was I hypnotized we should say that William Fichter's team raids the camp by the way yeah they're all here and so it's like oh we really miss you sweetheart then they just murder these two

fucking Carl and Thelma get it here and it's kind of a really hilarious William Fickner taking this character for a walk because you know Diana here Alice Braga's character starts screaming like,

oh, you know, call an ambulance or whatever. And Fickner is just this really great throwaway, like, we're not here for them. Just this delivery that he's got? Yeah. Fucking great. I mean, I also I got to say, if you are housing the next, like,

super being that will control the world, a little Dominique here, maybe you want to move to a place where is it, like, it's a house in the middle of nowhere. it's an open plane like you can just come like I guess you can see people coming

but also like there's nowhere to hide there's nowhere to like shuffle thing like you should want like ideally you want the yellow king house yeah totally we want a place lots of little places to hide away and also like if you can afford

a carcosa fantastic but like just the houses will do just the houses they have turns out this house is also fake well you don't want to be that far from the jack of the box Chris that's the thing maybe this is the cover is like during this scenario there's a house there when they're when Fickner's driving down to the Bev Max it's gone right yeah oh sure because there's a scene I mean this part of the scene here is Fickner starts like shooting at the house it's it isn't real

that's that's actually he thank you for bringing that up because he has a line that is the spiritual sister to you and your friends a day from Dark Night when he fucking just goes It's a construct Get out of town It turns out the little girl is powerful

enough to fight back against Fickner and everyone else and the house is fake Those dominoes were fake And this is the big twist here Because she comes out and like They're only talking to the mom here And then like it's a construct And then the little girl is just like, yes, and you're all going to die.

And this is when they all start shooting themselves in the head. Oh, my God. Dude, this is ridiculous. It's L-O-L. It's a fun moment for sure. It is. And everyone's like, it's this weird thing again. Like, it doesn't feel like it.

Because if it's, this is more pusher than construct. If it's a construct, you would be gleefully shooting yourself in the head for some reason. But everyone's like fighting it. Like, I can't not know. Right. Well, because, because it's also Jeff Fahey is mowing them down too, right? Yes, that's, yeah, Jeff Fahey gets, that's a Jeff Fahey is not dead. Jeff Fahey has like fucking Ted Dugent Stranglehold going in the Bluetooth fucking headphones while he mows down these people.

Yes, because his death was also a construct. Uh-huh. Yeah. He's just going for it. Nothing you've seen in this movie actually matters. Sorry, folks. No. The funniest one of these, though, is when Affleck's, like, fake partner. in the fake cops. Nix. Yes. Nix. Yeah, he comes up. And he's like sort of the last dude and he's behind Bickner and he's got the gun and he's going to shoot Affleck. And Affleck looks at this

dude and kind of like, it's like if you offered, you're like, hey man, uh, I'm going to go out and have a smoke. You want a cigarette? And someone just kind of like shakes their head just really quick. It's kind of like when Jerry, Jerry's girlfriend won't try the pie. Yeah. She just does that facial expression. Affleck looks at this dude and kind of shakes his head like, No, you don't want to do that. And like, without any other influencing or like a shot of Affleck looking like he's got to take a shit again or whatever, this dude just shoots himself in the chin. Oh, it's funny.

Just you don't want to do that. Yeah, you're right. Suicide. And then even Victor himself turns the gun on himself and fires. And his tummy. Yes, it's a very... He shoots himself five times in his tummy. I imagine this the little girl like, shoot yourself in your tummy.

Yeah. It is so funny, though, because he's got this gun out. again. And it kind of looks like the gun Bruce Willis has in that looper movie. It's a super gun for some reason. It is. The not too distant future. Yeah. Because I think this is sort of like a pseudo future gun kind of thing.

And the girl just looks like, uh-uh, not my daddy. And dude the William Fickner shooting himself with this gun. And he's just, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. It is oh my God, I was laughing so fucking hard. And for some reason, but I don't know, they keep cutting back as like, they're like, Mommy, you have to

remember you have to remember and then all of a sudden like there's this scene of her tied to a chair and Ben Afflex dressed like the cell for some reason and I don't know what that is like even a little bit even one little bit I don't know what that is they both had

Ben Affleck and Alex Braga had to erase their minds in order for the daughter to be free to grow strong enough to make Fickner shoot himself in his tummy but I think what that flashback see where does Taras missing headset come from Well, because what happened was, dude, he came back from fencing practice.

I see. Of course. They were like, you got to get right in there. You can't even get out of the uniform. Important. That's what I thought it looked like. It is, I think what that is, it's like it's masking his face and his voice. I see. I see. So she doesn't know that it's him doing this.

And it could also be some sort of like sensory protection thing in case she starts trying to push him. But you wouldn't know because the movie doesn't have time to give a shit. Maybe it's just hypnosex foreplay. you know what Eric you might have a point there like if you have uh like if you have a blocker mask like you like oh honey uh okay you can push me tonight but i want to push you on friday oh man we get to do whatever we want with each other to each other and just like making ben afflick jerk off again and then you're just like hey bit can we just forget the whole thing can we just can you just erase your memory last night please i just i don't

i don't want to talk about it anymore we i've apologized you've accepted it but it's probably better if you just erase that memory just erase that memory it happens to a lot of guys usually not me but we should probably just erase that memory and start fresh you know yeah I just because to me crying just just erase the memory

erase the memory please it was all the whiskey's fault keep telling that's I mean I know it sounds like a excuse but it's also a reason it's a reason so then like because the movie the movie has no out

at this point because it's there's no movie here anymore it's like whatever is left like the ashes of this shit all just has to come down to ben affleck standing next to this woman in the front yard and the little girl is there and he straight up just explains everything you've been looking at just by talking to this lady and it is so terrible it's like so honey you know this is what we realized we had to do me and you and like i don't know man why don't you have him start saying that And then we see it go down in a flashback. At least, at least that's something other than you, you might as well just be reading me the end of the movie on an index card.

I'll tell you what I would have liked is for you to end the movie. Right then. Like as soon as Fickner is dead, I would have liked you to end the movie. I've been watching a lot of Hallmark Christmas movies. And one in one, this woman is teaching, I believe it's actually Mira Servino,

is teaching a little girl how to do. You know those like fun, like grade school snowflakes. you would do by folding a piece of white paper a bunch and then cutting into it. And the kid doesn't understand how to do it. And this is exactly what... So in this situation, Miroservino is Christopher Nolan.

She's like, all right, Rob, what you want to do is take the story. You want to fold it this way. Fold it, fold it, fold it. And you're going to cut here and cut here. But remember, you don't want to cut too much and then he cuts too much and then she tries to open it and the whole thing falls apart

as opposed to being a beautiful snowflake that Mirisovino opens. She's like, no, you just have to make little cuts here and there and this that and then it'll turn to this gorgeous pattern as opposed to this little girl that cut cut cut cut and she tries to open it and it falls all over herself because she's a fucking

moron and that's what the story is you cut too much you twisted too much and when you tried to open it it turned into nothing because nothing mattered at all I mean keep in mind it's not even Christopher Nolan in that role

it's a weird producer with a South African accent who's watched the Christopher Nolan movies many times telling you how that thing would have yes exactly secondhand knowledge on his part and yeah so like and then like sort of like we needed to protect the daughter and blah blah blah and you know now the good thing is

we could go for the first time in our entire lives go wherever we want to go you want to go Duncan and I'm kind of thirsty for a dude it is the dumbest way to shut a door on a movie the dumbest laziest most obvious I had no fucking clue how to wrap this up. The girl, it's either the Domino or the

wife character there just goes, what do we do now or what now? And Affleck goes, we finally get to decide that for ourselves. Boom, hypnotic title card. I could not believe it. It's great.

It's great. And then we get the fucking stinger. That's not all. That's not all. Mid-credit Stinger sequence. We're back at the carnage yard. And now Jeff Fahey's alive again. And you're like, oh, and he's like, he tells his wife Dolby to go with them. You guys get in a helicopter.

I'll clean up here. Hey, hey. And they go away. And then he turns around and he turns into William Fickner. And I'm like, dude, you couldn't even help it for fucking two. You couldn't stop twisting for two minutes. Then Jeff Fahey's body's in place of Fichter on the ground. So the poor little girl killed her.

TikTok Grandpa. But it doesn't even match because, as we've been saying, Fickner goes for this like multiple tummy shot thing. Fahey, who's supposed to be Fickner

from that scene, that's what this movie's telling us right now in this stinger. He's got a single bullet hole up in the chest. Yeah. So it doesn't even work. Get your coat on.

Start the car. Do the remote start on the car. If you're, that you're totally right because if if you are so convinced hypnotic is a hit this could be seen number one of hypnotic two yep it's sure and also like you know like maybe maybe fictor isn't in hypnotic too but like mel gibson is or something like that it's like ooh who is above him in the in the fucking division right well we we do have there is like mentions to someone above them all sure and i forget what it is and that's that kind of shit that I'm like, how dare you? Unless I see that like this go all the way to the top in this movie,

don't be doing that. Oh man. Because like that makes me believe that you're thinking about multiple of these. And the problem of when you think about multiples of movies, a lot of the time and it sure as shit happens here, you forget about the first one you're making.

Yeah. Boy, did this movie get forgotten. I mean, come on. But honestly, though, if you're going to do it, get Mel Gibson, S. Craig Zoll, Hypnotic 2, Electric Boogaloo. I think it's a jam. I think it's worth going.

I think you do it. Then you'll find out who's pulling the strings and it gets real racist after that. Oh, yeah. Oh, insanely so. Just incredible. But that is the end of this movie. Good God.

Go around the horn here. Final thoughts. Stephen Saneh. I'm a sucker. I take full responsibility for this episode. because I am a sucker for a movie that gives you fake X-Men and also

it goes out of its way to do all this remember the movie Infinite which no one remembers and that's another like it's it's a spiritual cousin like every year they try to do this shit because it's just like hey we need new IP

what if it's exactly like the X-Men but and I love it and I will fall for these movies every time I'm disgusted with Robert Rodriguez that he made this movie and I'm kind of with Eric where I'm like, maybe I'm done with him

until I hear otherwise. Yeah. Eric Siska. Yeah. I mean, it's a shame. You know, there was, not that there was potential of this, but there was potential in Robert Rodriguez once upon a time. In Mexico? No, not that. Not that movie. I didn't like that movie. Oh, yeah. But the thing is, like, it just

this movie feels like so much wasted potential. Not only from him, but like, I love William Fickner just chewing it up. And it's, you just got to give me, give me something for him like the two it's a maze I don't like it fuck this Christopher

oh it's horrible never watch it it is so sad that this is what Robert Rodriguez is doing because you know I think about this I mean we were talking about Clerks 3 a little bit ago like for whatever I think of Kevin Smith

he is doing the thing like he's self funding this stuff the old fashioned way he's funding it. But he, it's to make the worst movies in the world. Whereas like Robert Rodriguez is like has had that model like I'm going to do like spy kids and lava girl and that's going to make me money. And then I can fund my action movies that are a little grittier, a little bit more, you know, bloody, you know, we, you know, do the real fun stuff. And like it just feels like he gave up that second part of it to be like, I don't know, like algorithm Nolan knock off. I think Chris, I think he prefers the

family movies maybe at this point he does like that's absolutely possible uh and it's because yeah all this is since planet terror I've kind of been checked out um and I you know those machete movies are okay

this is terrible don't watch it even the machete movies I mean I only saw the first one I like I remember liking I thought it was fine as far as again as far as like shit you made out of joke trailers yeah right

because that's what Machete was. Let's not forget that, of course, much like Thanksgiving from late last year as well. Yeah, I don't know. It's just, it's really sad that this is him because this is a dude that has made shit that I think is great to good, you know, and like I enjoy watching his stuff.

Even in like the not as good stuff, there's usually some things to find. But yeah, just this idea of him making this movie where it just really feels like he's chasing, the footprint of others it's a bad idea you have your own thing just do that people miss that make those um it this movie reminds me of and i'll tell you right now i've been trying to look it up uh i was like i'll give my final thoughts last here to give myself enough time i'll definitely find the movie but i can't this movie reminds me of a movie we did i think it also wound up

being a worst of I can't tell you who's in it okay I can't tell you the title all I can tell you it's a movie where it turns out there are people inside a video game

and it's not pixels no no no it's a more serious kind of thing and they're like oh uh oh uh serendipity yes yes that movie this has a serendipit

kind of vibe. Yes. Insofar as like we're breaking our backs to have some sort of cool kind of, you know, twist or whatever and it's just not there at all. With McConaughey's in that movie? Serenity, right? Serenity. Sorry. That's what it is John Cusack, Ron. I was wondering why it wasn't coming up. Yes, Serenity.

2019, it's McConaughey and Hathaway. Yes. Yes. Brutely terrible movie. But it's in that same vein of like... everything you watched was bullshit, twist, and that's not, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of twist endings. And this movie has that as well. Even the Jason Clark cucking. Even that, even that was just made up. It just is on that level of dumb. But yeah, I would not recommend it either. I think that's a, is that a four around the horn? Stay away from this one. Absolutely. We do the dirty work. So sometimes you folks at home don't have to. That's going to do it for

this episode on Robert Rodriguez's hypnotic. Again, this is January, folks, so we're going back through some of the standouts as far as disappointments from last year. So over on the Patreon, of course, we got something a little different, and our we love a movie selection is going to be one of our favorite

movies from last year. Eric Sisko, what are we going to be talking about? Speaking of Nolan, we're going to be talking about Oppenheimer. It will be my sixth or seven, no, yes, sixth or seventh viewing. I forget which. For this, This episode.

Yeah. How many for you, Chris Cabin? Fifth for me. So we got that going on. Oppenheimer, we love movies. That's happening. We got our usual list of suspects. Of course, Melrode 210,

back and better than ever in 2024. And pretty recently, we just released our Harry Potter and the prisoner of as cabanmentary, which rules that we had a lot of fun with, and we despise J.K.R. Allen, we promise. Just want to get that out there. Got to get that out there for the 17th.

She is a monster and we denounce her. Yes. But we got that going on. Of course, you do want to catch up on that if you missed it over the holidays. Animation, damnation coming your way. The Nexus coming your way. We got a whole lot of stuff coming your way on the Patreon. Patreon.com slash we hate movies, including $8 level and up.

You get these main feed We Hate Movies episodes, ad free on the Patreon, which, you know, if you're a subscriber, you might be listening to this hypnotic episode ad-free right now. But as far as the some of the worst crap we slogged through last year, Steve Sadek, the show continues next Tuesday with what motion picture? Oh, it is the worst Marvel release of 2023. It's Ant Man in the Wasp. Get ready to, Eric, you've not seen this video, right?

And it's Ant Man on the Wasp, colon, colon, into the Quantumanium, right? Into the Quantum. Or just Quantum Mania. It's not into anything. We're not going to do it. And you know what? I wouldn't have guessed, you know what I'm. I was hoping, I've been hoping that we would have a trial results before the next election. We got trial results before this Guantamania episode. So now we know for fact, there's no allegedly about it. It's tough, man. The dynasty is over. Yeah, the king dynasty has grumble. The dynasty is over. It is just one of the absolute worst things I know. I saw in theaters last year.

And I've been waiting for this one, dude. I've been a fucking dog on a leash with Quantum Mania. So until next week, we talk about one of the biggest failures in that franchise's history. I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. Eric's assistant. Chris Cabin. Take it easy.

Thank you.