We Hate Movies - S14 Ep726: Night Game

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

“We’re playing pool with Captain Heart Attack here…” - Eric on this movie’s police captain On this week’s episode, we’re kicking off the 2024 Listener Request Month with a dirty-ass 1970’s-feeling cop movie that came out in 1989, Night Game! Why is Roy Scheider’s character making such a big deal out of this gifted television set? Can that future mother-in-law just take it down a notch or two? Why is that police chief character looking like he’s about to have a heart attack in every scene? Why does this movie focus so much on Roy Scheider’s upcoming wedding? And is this actually a slasher movie? PLUS: Hilarious fuck-ups from famous serial killers!  Night Game stars Roy Scheider, Karen Young, Richard Bradford, Paul Gleason, Carlin Glynn, Anthony Palmer, Alex Morris, Rex Linn, and Lane Smith as Witty; directed by Peter Masterson.  This week’s episode is brought to you in part by Bespoke Post! Get a free Mystery Gift with your first monthly shipment when you sign up at Box of Awesome DOT COM and enter the code WHM at checkout. That’s Box of Awesome DOT COM, code WHM for a free Mystery Gift with your first monthly shipment. Box of Awesome DOT COM, code WHM! Be sure to catch us on tour this spring, gang! We’ll be hitting Atlanta, Houston and Austin and we wanna see you come out! Head over to our tour page and get them tix! In Atlanta we’re talking about Gerard Butler in Gamer, Houston is a W❤️M on Robocop 2, and in Austin we’re doing another W❤️M celebrating the great Robert Rodriguez movie, From Dusk Till Dawn! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Time Runner, Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!

This week on We Hate Movies. We're talking about Roy Shider at his leathery best in Night Game. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Eric Game. Jose Konseko. What in the world? And we hate movies.

Hello everyone, welcome to we hate movies. Thank you for the show and you're new to the show and you're finding us because you're a huge night game fan. podcast where we take a movie, good better or otherwise, and kick it around for a little bit. And indeed, we are kicking off listener request month, our annual You Tell Us What to Watch series with this Roy Scheider film from 1989, directed by Peter Masterson, you guys. If you are a night game fan, I would just ask Grandpa, what do you do that? Go back to bed, Grandpa. You know, you're not supposed to be up right now.

Then you're going to get up at 4 o'clock, Grandpa, and you're going to want to start the day. I love night game I know I know you want to get up and talk to all of your other Roy heads out there about your favorite Shider your favorite Shider movie Night Game but no go back to bed By the way big guest today

Nice to see you Jose Hello it's nice to be here I somehow somehow got up for this I don't know why I have all this money What made you choose Jose Canseco there I don't know it just popped in my head Was he an astro probably

I don't know Everyone's an astro eventually. But you know, funny enough, I should say, I want to do it right now. If you are listening to this because you're a huge Houston Astros fan, you should probably check us out on May 14th in Houston, Texas, talking about Robocop 2, FYI. We're coming to your town, Houston fans. That's right.

The night game will be seeing us live. That's right. Or if you live in Austin, do that the next day. Just checked it out really quickly. Jose Cansego never played for the Houston Astros. Wow. Okay. Well, he's a baseball guy.

this is a baseball movie. He cheated in other ways. That's right. Which is worse than murder, which we get in this movie. The poster, by the way, rocks. It's a great fucking poster. It's a spoiler poster, by the way. It is.

It's half this movie, they're like, what could be making these scratches? I just don't understand it. I'm like, it's a, it's a prosthetic arm. Yeah. Hi, when I walked in, there's a prosthetic arm. And now nobody does about it. This is a movie where to a, like, I mean, I'm not saying it's on the level as dirty Harry

but it's in the same vein as like you kind of know who the killer is the whole time and it doesn't matter. No, you know what I mean? You see this fucking fat bald slob with a hook hand and it's like all right, that's the guy and how's Roy going to find him? But the real twist is when that guy turns out to be a former baseball player and then you're

like, oh right, there were Babe Ruth slob types all over the place. They're still out there, dude. The last time I really paid attention to baseball was probably the mid-90s. So you got your David Wells. That was a big fat hunk of a pitcher I love a nice big boy getting up

to the plate. David Wells is total fucking legend. We should play the call, right? Oh, right? Yeah, of course. We always forget the calls here because we get right into these, but this was requested by a listener named Ben from Wisconsin. Let's see what he had to say about Night Game.

Hi, this is Ben from Wisconsin. I'm calling to request the 1989 Roy Scheider film Night Game. I had a blast watching this last summer and I hope you guys enjoy watching it as well all right

take care and you know what yeah I enjoyed watching it you could do worse this was actually kind of a fun little you know

mangy detective yarn it does bear it is crazy like I said this on letterbox it is essentially

a Sventura pet detective if it was a normal detective you're so right You're so right. I literally have a note, Chris, of Laces Out Marino for the end of this movie. Yes. Yes, Floyd Epps, you know, like Laces, a hands out, I guess. Yes. You find, you find the one-hobb killer or find new jobs. They stole our astro. They got them from the tank.

Big difference from the tank. Big difference being, though, night games, 100% no transphobia. No, it's true. Ventura can't say the same thing. Instead of cradle robbing. Yeah, but you know what? Everybody's of age man. That's true. If you got a problem with it, that's your problem. I'm only saying it because

that's a quote from the film. Yes, indeed. And it's not, it is an overall horniness that infects this film, I would say. I think it's everywhere. I don't think it's just Roy Shider banging his child bride. That's Houston, baby. There's something so funny about So, like, the, you know, the killings are going on and the beleaguered police chief is just like, oh, man, you know what, guys, that's it. 18, this is way early in the movie, like the second or third scene. He was like, that's it, 18 hours on, no more drinking beer.

And I don't even care if you're, and no one's even watching Van der White or whatever the line is, right? Yes. And then from then on, Roy Scheider is at his sleepy best taking vacations or like, he's going out to dinner with his girlfriend. He's coming home at whatever hour. he's having drinks don't worry about it I guess the rules for thee not for me I guess It's the old

This is what I have to say He's the chief He's got to address the room They got the governor Fucking breathing down this guy's neck man He's got to do something I'll go out I've said this to the guys a hundred times

They know it's bullshit The old you're gonna be working here a lot No drinking please no drink Get out of your food These pigs fucking order a pizza And a crime scene later This is absolutely true. And also, keep in mind, Richard Bradford, who plays the chief here, the boss of

a beautiful Roy Shider, is on the verge of having a heart attack the entire film. It's just about there all the time. Chris, there is the scene where Roy goes to meet him at the bar and this guy's playing pool. And there's a moment where, like, the dude is holding the pool cue and you just see him going, and I was like, is this guy actually going to have a heart attack? here like the stress of the case and the governor breathing down his neck like he keeps asking for like

oh give him up a pill and it's just aspirin because he's got a headache or excedrine sometimes but no it needs to be heart medication because this guy is sweating and he looks like it looks like Mike Starr in the middle of dumb and dumber speaking of Jim Carrey movies yeah

pills are good pills are good oh my god I do like the opening of this we got the night game on the TV little baseball, little Roy Sleapy Roy Schneider, you know? I kind of like, I mean, the weird thing is like, I mean, I grew up, you know, I'm 40 now, grew up in the 90s when, you know, my supposed team, the Yankees, would, were, you know, Kings, I never got into baseball, but this like 80s kind of baseball, like this just

having it on the radio. Yes, that's, there's a romance to it. It's better. You're absolutely right. Like, there is, romance is the perfect word for it because that is. how you can fall in love with the game, right? Like just a shitty radio on. You're kind of doing something.

Maybe you're playing pool. Maybe you're fucking drinking a beer on the porch, whatever it is. And it's not the like overproduced Joe Buck baseball broadcast. Brought to you by whatever the fuck. And we're doing this commercial and this analysis. It's just a gruff dude with probably a ton of chest hair, open shirt,

calling a game on the radio. Yes. Yeah. It's beautiful. Instead of plugging sitcoms, it's coming up after the game, murder. I agree with all that, Andrew, except for the part about falling in love with the game. That part, I don't think ever happens, really. At least it hasn't happened for me.

I think baseball is America's great background noise. It is perfect to have. It's fun. On the TV, do not pay attention to it because it will put you to sleep, but you can drink a beer to it. You can eat a pizza to it. I could pay attention to it and drink myself to sleep. Well, there you go. It's possible to do both, Chris.

I've had great times at baseball games. Oh, hell yeah. And I mean, this whole, like, you know, I'm just driving down the road to the game. Like, and also, there's something about this movie that, I mean, because you're not seeing it happen, of course. And it's also 1989. Security is a little different, but like,

oh, sure. They're just, like, going to these games a lot. And it seems like such a natural. Yeah, I'm going to the game tonight or whatever. And it's not like, I'm breaking my fucking bank account to go to the game. I'm not getting my ball. Balls busted, getting into the fucking stadium.

You know what I mean? I will say this. If it was back in the day and it was like one of those horrible places where you can get like a 10 cent beer night thing going on. In that case, I would go there because I could possibly get killed. Chris, I could show you places today you can get killed. I know that. Eric, I'm not coming over to your house. Well, please.

It's a housewarming. No. No. Oh, no. A housewarming slash bloodletting. Yeah, sure. Yeah, but that's because I've always been to basketball and football, but baseball, there's this, there is this thing.

Like when you watch old people just enjoy it, I'm like, I kind of wish I can get into that, but I can't. I'm like, Chris, it does put me to sleep. I do like to go to a game every year. You know what I mean? I'll go to the Met Stadium. Again, great to drink to. Unbelievable great to drink to.

But other than that, I can't really see the romance in it. Everything's great to drink to. Including this podcast, I'm doing it right now. literally drinking a beer. I'm drinking. But we hear about this fake pitcher Barreto and he's got a win. It's very important.

Uh-huh. Yes. Interesting plot of this movie. This serial killer's predilections such as they are, Barreto on the mound gets the win for the Stroes. Oh my God. And his girlfriend, Roxy, is poor. Roy Shider's girlfriend,

Roxy. Yeah, yeah. Not Barreto. A fiancé. A fiance. I say, excuse me. Mike Savers. Mike Seaver. Seever. Dude, it's hilarious that this guy has the same name as fucking, uh, what's his face from growing pains.

Kirk Cameron, man. Kirk Cameron's character. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is that right? Yes, it's amazing. Well, I could never get into growing pains.

You know, I see these old timers watching it. There's a romance to growing pain. Yeah, exactly. But the champagne overflows in his glass and we get this great little Roy Schneider like, Dude, yeah, his fiancé's, like, accidentally pouring champagne all over his balls. Like, you want to get married? Chug. Well, yeah.

I mean, the saxophone starts pretty quickly. Oh, hell, yes. Right after the bubbling over. But, yeah, very quickly, she is his fiance now. And this, I mean, as much as this is about a killer linked to a baseball pitcher, this is also about this old fuck getting married. Oh, yeah. I want to, we don't see the proposal.

We see, yeah, like, it's a sleepy night. in his his like cop shack there and she's like I can't believe you proposed to me and she's like boy champagne et cetera did he do it during the game where it's like coming up next the seventh inning show sweetheart I just want to let you know that you mean a whole lot to me

well that's your heads your heads on the front of the TV not only not only was it during the game Steve who was during the commercial break of yes well she says on September 14th 1988 at 10.32 p.m. And I'm thinking, like, is she proposing to Hammer

saying propose to me? Because it would line up to the time, right? How late is this baseball game on? Yeah, no, that's true. I didn't take it as the proposal. I took it as this was the proposal. Yeah. Oh, really? I'm spilling shit on your dick. We're getting married, right? Yeah, whatever. The game's on. Get out of the way. Because he really doesn't care about the fucking wedding shit later on. But yeah, champagne dick. They're kind of kissing a little

it. We cut to the beach. Because a lot of this also, yes, filmed in Houston, but also filmed in Galveston. Right on the water. It's beautiful fucking territory here. And there's a sexy lady walking through this boardwalk. And this is like, got a real Gozer to the Gozerian vibe going on with this outfit. The big hair.

Yep. I totally see all this. It was working for you? Is that what you said? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, of course, dude. I mean, you got this lady. You know, she's more attainable than that Yugoslavian model that played Goeser the Gozzerian. Would you say I'm a god or not? Because you want to get punished? You know what I mean?

Good question. Oh, I guarantee you, like, when the Ghostbusters fall to the ground, someone's a little bit hard. And the answer is it's Ray. Dan Aykroyd. Yeah, exactly. He's the Ghostbuster with the most

directions coming out of that movie, man. Exactly. Also being hit by her lighting bolts, that probably like stiffens certain organs. Oh, you come instantly. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you come instantly. You won't last five seconds.

Come instantly. One of your arteries just freezes, you know, freezes and clogs real quick. Yep. That's the kind of stuff. That's what the frozen empire is about or whatever. Oh, man, I hope so. Ah, ha, ha, my pipes are frozen. They all have heart attacks.

That would be great. Uh-huh. So, yeah, this lady's walking on the beach. We're getting some, like, killer POV. The dude's, like, in his car. There's a lot of, like, driving on the beach and driving on the boardwalk in this movie. Lawlessness. It's crazy.

I mean, the vibes here are. are very, to my good friend, Eric, a T.J. Hooker-esque, you know what I mean? Oh, yes. This is like a 90-minute hooker episode. Like, you know what, during Sweeps week? Very much so, yes, definitely. Now, this was crazy because it comes to nothing, you know, when the day is done here with the motion picture and the credits are rolling. But, like, this woman turns around and you hear this fellow, you hear like a, which, by the way, that's him getting his hook hand ready, but it sounds like a gun-cocking.

There's something going on there that I'm a little unclear about because you actually never see him use it until the very end because we're keeping that, again, the secret, even though that was the poster art, which somebody needed to talk to somebody else about, I think, was the thing. But so this woman turns around and she says, what are you doing here?

Kind of as if she knows this guy, and it comes to absolutely nothing, but she's murdered immediately, a big gash in the neck. My cup floweth over with things come to absolutely nothing in this film. There had to be. There had to be another cut of this. Like, I

refused to believe there wasn't because there's so much shit that they're just like, nope, never mind that. Like, late, we'll get to Lane Smith, but this was the first one for sure. So this version was mangled by a hook hand. It was, an editor with a mangled hook hand. Yeah, I got to keep those guys out of the editing bay, dude.

They keep fucking, you know, split the film where they're not supposed to. But yeah, so she's dead. we go the next morning we uh shiders getting the call here and it's a really great like oh no not another one and it's like shider picking up the phone playing a police officer of some kind it's either another dead girl in this movie or another fucking dead kid from a shark in another movie i feel like this guy's get a lot of oh no not another one throughout his career because even when i was afraid like when glisten starts yelling at the other the the chief of police there i was like are we going to like close the beaches

you know what I mean you can't not see that yeah you're totally right well the weird thing is he's he's annoyed because he wasn't the first person called he's like you're calling me now what time did this happen oh it happened why you're calling you gotta call me first I'm the the top cop or whatever the fuck he says it's like and who moved this body what the hell's happening here yeah because I guess Paul Gleason got there first with his big cowboy hat oh man and he's pissed to be awake too because he's had all that champagne last night yeah he's got to be working that off on the way I don't even think he has the chance to get himself some egg sandwich into his mouth. No, no, there's no, there's no fucking, uh, greasy food to help you out there.

Also, you guys catch this when he gets out of the bed. This Roy Shider nude colored banana hammock he's wearing. That threw me for a loop for a second. I was like, is there full frontal nudity in this movie? I think, I think it's supposed to like, it's supposed to be that. But obviously, our TVs are a little bit better than the 80 VHS. Now you're promising me, right? that technology if

televisions aren't going to get any better so when folks are watching this at home they're still going to think they're seeing McCock, right? Well, even in this movie, even a new TV doesn't get Channel 8. Oh, Channel 8. Yeah, every TV's supposed to be

a little hissy, a little staticy, and that's a romance too, right? I agree. Look, they're going to think I'm a Ken doll. I can't have that, you know, that's my legacy right there. I need to see my dick. I also like the mythology here a little bit.

Paul Gleason says he's a bird, burnout because of that bonehead play up in Dallas. I didn't hear that without that. We don't hear about it. But I like that we don't hear about it. The little mystery, we know that he cocked up some other job. And that's, is that why he's here? That's why he sent down to Galveston Beachtown to be the cop there.

That's fine. But his father, Roy Scheider's father running the local mafia. Question mark, question mark, question mark. That's like, every time that comes up, which thankfully it's sort of like peters off halfway through the movie. You're just kind of like, but that's from another movie. That's not in this movie. That was first draft stuff.

That was stuff that has since been cut. You could cut all of that out and not lose a beat. But the problem is you'd now be under 90 minutes. Sure. But like the fact, I mean, you know, get me 105 minutes. You put another 15 minutes onto this movie. You can kind of fix some of that stuff. I want to hear, like I want sweaty chief to fucking sit down and tell,

you know one of the other detectives one the young detective who is i know his name is b i b b e e but they call him baby essentially all the they all call him bibby and i'm like all right that's that's very funny i get that but i need him to sit him down to be like you know uh you know mike was up in dallas and uh well he saw a skateboarder and he hates those fucking things and he just blew this child right away he just blew him right right in the chest right there is he got startled is what happened. And the second shot hit the president right in Daly Plaza. Oh, that cock up in Dallas, let me tell you.

The damnedest thing, I was trying to shoot this wood pusher dead, you know, fired wildly into a crowd, accidentally assassins the president. Don't tell anyone about it. He keeps on talking about his friend, Herbert Walker. Hey, poppy, Roy Scheider's over for Sunday dinner. Well, I mean, this is, I mean, Layden Smith later on, who's part of the CIA, he definitely knows GHW.

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Yes. In the panties is a note that says best wishes. I love these notes. Good luck. Yeah, I mean, I guess the idea is, because we find out later, he was cut from the team or whatever. Maybe that's what happened to him, and he's trying to put it back on the Astros somehow.

Well, like, the Shider sort of says that it's like, this is his equivalent of signing autographs. Like he'd sign a ball and best wishes, whatever. This is him giving an autograph for the cop. It's like old fan mail. I think that's alluded to, but yeah, maybe he's just doing it new. And then, of course, we get, you know, other, you know, I started thinking that they were setting up multiple killers,

but that never came to anything. Yeah, that was, that's, because all the handwriting is different. Yeah, there's like, oh, the handwriting is different here. Like, why? I would have liked them to, like, at least, like, get, get well soon, kind regards. They all have best in them. I can, not very original.

Shider also is convinced that Paul Gleason's character, and he turns out he's correct at the end of the movie. And it's also a thing that is kind of underbaked and doesn't matter in the movie. But he's like, Paul Gleason's definitely crooked. Gleason also, I think, doesn't work for the Galveston PD. He's the sheriff's department, I think, is the idea. Yes. We're yelling about where, you know, jurisdiction.

Yes. Jurisdiction, where does this take place? Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, county. No, it's the, it's, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the chief going, well, Well, like the crime scene's like totally fucked up. We've moved the corpse, all this stuff.

And it's like, well, nothing more we can do here. I guess the chief goes, well, at least we got two things. He's got a taste for blondes. And he's got nice handwriting. Just the kind of useless information we could use here, chief. Thank you. You know, six or seven more of these. We're going to crack it.

You know what I mean? We're going to let these bodies pile up. Yep. No one's in a rush. Just there's a six or seven more of these. Later on when Lane Smith comes in. he's like, why don't we just do, like, have a decoy and follow them? And Roy Schneider's like,

no, no, no, no, it's got to be real. Okay? A girl actually has to die. He says something about, like, it's pointless to try to, like, catch him like that because he's changing and, like, evolving by having different, slightly different handwriting sometimes. Sure. But so, you know, Shider is like, okay,

let's go to this dead woman's apartment. Her name's Loretta goes in. spies another lady in this apartment. And dude, this is a great... Because they're sort of suspecting here that this Loretta was maybe a woman of the night here. And Shider goes, were you in Loretta in the, you know,

same industry? Cleaning pipes. You know, were you rostitutes? Rostitute. Did you know, I'm not saying the whole thing, but you know, say it. So he arrests her for vague reasons here. If you've ever been a prostitute,

you can arrest it at any time. That's right. I guess so. It comes to nothing, though. He's like suspicious of her being sent there by someone to snoop around. Because I guess they're also suspecting there's a pimp that is doing this. I don't know. That's, I think you're right on that.

And as it turns out, yeah, all these women are working apparently for Paul Gleason, who's the pimp at the end of the movie? Right, that's more like a five second line that comes Then we don't even address it afterwards. I would have loved to see I don't get arrested or something A stinger scene of him in prison Meeting up some new guys

You know, maybe Morbius is in there or something Oh, absolutely, vultures in there. Doggawk and the pen. It's like next time. Yeah, you want to get sinister all six of us. Uh-huh. We got this scene where we're doing like a slide show of all the victims and the injuries or whatever. And I love Baby the New Guy.

It's just the Chris Farley line from Tommy Boy. New guys in the back, puking his guts out. Like this dude is just holding back the chunks while it's like looking at all this really graphic slash neck footage and everything. It's like, and you see, you know, it starts at the ear and goes right down through the joke. Well, Roy is loving it. He's so leaned back in this chair watching this stuff. It looked so comfy. He's having popcorn. He's having

a day of that. The only better of this is like when he's back at the slideshows later and it's him alone just smoking in that room. Just looking at all this dead girl photography and what. Back when we had freedom and we could do that.

But yeah, it's like six pictures that we're looking at over and over again. This is all of the evidence that they have. sorry. This has been going on for weeks. Gentlemen, get your shit together. Yeah, but they get, you know, they kind of get some clues here. Like, oh, is it a knife, a cleaver? Oh, what about a hook? Like a longshoreman's hook. So now they're like suspecting doc people. So they are wrong for most of this movie. Oh, sure. It's just completely wrong. Just completely wrong. I kind of like that, though. That's what kind of makes it like a T.J. Hooker thing. Like, you're checking out all these

suspects and most of them are not going to be. Right. Oh, yeah. I mean, Roy Scheider did, there were a few movies. He did another movie around this time called The Seven Ups that was kind of like this. Oh, yeah. The Seven Ups is a better movie than this. It's delicious on ice. Get a little whiskey in there, dude. Is that the one that every seven years they keep making it?

No, that's Sierra Mist. Oh, okay. Which is now Starry? Starry, yes. Oh, that's the same thing? I think so. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, I think they rebranded it. Yeah, like Sprite is still alive and Seven Up is still around, I think.

but Sierra Mist became starry. We did execute the seven-up guy, though. Yeah, the little seven-up guy. Yeah, no, he was hanged in the town square. Yeah. I think Steve was referencing an actual documentary series, right? Yeah, seven-ups. The Michael Apted.

Yeah, seven-up, 14-up, 21-up. Right. It's like boyhood, but sadder or something. Oh, dude, a couple of those people have hard lives. And indeed, now, well, apt to pass. it's done. But like a couple of them like died off like while they're still making the movie. It's they are

nice. They are tough watches those movies. Nice twist and turns. I love the oh come on. I love the the guy who's the I guess he's just the all around like universal cop technician, forensic technician guy that is named Dale

and this whole scene it's like back that up Dale. Yeah Dale you go over here. Dale and then even the chief is like Dale can you get my aspirin a glass of water Dale Hey Dale We're saying Dale Oh I love that

Oh yeah The guy's like He's a technician Because he knows how to operate The Kodak like carousel Yeah That's the main thing He's had some of these

They are really grisly I was kind of surprised The throat shots Honestly some of these I was like Did you just like get these From some sort of like Forensics file

Wouldn't be surprised Well that's just sort of weird About this movie Is it sort of I mean again like it does It's paste like a T.J. Hooker movie episode, rather, and it's got like, all, you know, but it does have this slashery part to it. And it's kind of, like, which is sort of, you know, you're

seeing the killer POV. There's like some really pretty good gore effects here and there, but not often. No, I mean, it's, it's a weird, this is the thing. It's a horror movie where the cop is the main character, which doesn't happen. Like, that's pretty rare that the actual cop in charge of a slasher is the main character, but that's what this is. So the tone isn't like, as, like,

grim as slasters tend to be. Like, it's more like, I'm hanging out, getting drunk with beers and like, maybe, you know, fucking the daughter of the lady I used to fuck. Oh, yes, we should get into that. Oh, we'll get there. So, yeah, the chief sort of brings

her man, and he's like, look, we got to stop fucking around because Lamar Whitty, which we learn is Lane Smith has been assigned by the governor to like take a look at the case or whatever so we gotta stop fucking around man because listen Roy Scheider he's going to come in. It's going to be you're not

cleaning this up fast enough and then he's going to you know take over whatever. Yeah so Lane Smith is supposedly former CIA so you think he's going to do something but you know obviously those points don't those guys don't do jack shit so it comes to nothing. We see you know he has like

three scenes, one of which is he calls it. Well, I'd like to help out on the case. Anything you need. I just got to go to town for a couple days. I'm going to D.C. I'll be back here in the movie in a couple of hours. The chief is like,

I need, we got this case. We need two days at least. Lamar. You got a final. He is just grabbing his chest in every scene. He is, sweating desperately in this movie over and over again. And you're like, are you okay, sir? I think it's wild. We're going to be sweating just as much at the Houston Improv.

Yeah, you know, we haven't hit that stage before, man. I don't know how physically close we're going to be to the lights. That's totally possible. A lot of sweating is also the humidity, the stickiness. Sure. Sticky. But this is where he is like, he goes out to give the big 18 hours. or whatever. And he's like, where the hell's baby? And it's like, oh, baby had to go home because he threw up on himself and he needed to go change his shirt. Like, oh man, you got to fucking ask you got to be put in for a transfer after that because you're just going to be a puke guy. Maybe you need to be a traffic cop. That's going to be your move. The lowest of the low. We sent baby home

that we're going to go change his nappy. We'll see how that does him. We got two lieutenants on him changing that. Nappy, he'll be back here. He'll be fine. Get him his pinky too. We need that. But this is where we do learn that, yes, Roy Scheider is marrying his high school fuck buddy's daughter. Amazing.

It's so good. It's almost like marrying your own daughter. You see Karen Young is the actress playing the daughter who is hilarious name. You may know her as the FBI agent in The Sopranos who is running

Adriana for a little while. Oh, wow. I didn't I didn't recognize her as that and then other stuff I mean she's been around for a long time she's in nine and a half weeks she's in fucking Jaws the Revenge she is a Brody she is in a heat the 1986 version with Bert Reynolds

oh is she really she plays a prostitute in that I think oh also in what the fuck is that oh it's the shithead piece of human garbage Rob Cohen's daylight oh yeah of course with it's a Stallone right Stallone in a tunnel.

I just pulled up her Wikipedia. My lord, she was married to Tom Noonan and they have two children. Wow. Holy shit. Married to Tom Noon and that's got to be something. Oh, yeah. They got divorced a few years later. Well, because I mean, it's just unsettling to be married to Tom Noon.

Yeah, I mean, those kids are just immediately taller than you. Everywhere you go, it's a haunted house. Like, how are you giving birth to something that's taller than you immediately? happens you have to unfold they unfold as they come out but she's like oh mom you know don't don't don't be you know we're so excited to be engaged blah blah blah then she's like the mother just my jaw was on the floor she's like hey remember we used to dance the sock hop and now you're marrying my daughter oh yeah yes i am mama how you doing alma nothing is so he he meets her at the like uh she's working at the carnival uh it looks like it's what

this boardwalk. Yes. Yeah. It's a corny culture, dude. The whole town. It's the industry. And like, it seems like she's, so she just found out about the marriage. And as of Roy Scheider's like, so what do you want to do tonight, honey? And she's like, we're, let's go dance. And he's like, all right. Like, I'll see

you dance. We'll see you at 730. Oh, so um, uh, what, why don't I give you a thrill and take off your panties? How about that? Did everybody get this line? It's a weird line. I'm trying to find the scene in my notes because we just jumped way ahead in the movie. I do have this one line before that

is who would have thought that when you were, when we were doing the dirty bop together at Ball High School that you'd grow up to be good enough to marry my baby. Well, and then, the dirty bop by the way. Ball High School. Maybe it's a real thing.

Ball's Deep University. Yeah, maybe she means like, remember when the nut sex were everywhere at high school? When we went to Schlong High. It's a long eye. Yeah, that was great. That was fantastic. You were transferred to scrotum.

That, but that scene ends. When he's leaving, he's like, can I, he's like, can I give you a ride somewhere? Can I give you a thrill in your underwear or something? Oh, I remember the thrill. I didn't, maybe I missed the underwear. It's the weirdest line of her, like, you're, like, and she says something like, you're being fresh out there. He is, my God, this guy, what a, he's sampled both the goods and he's hinting at it.

That's insane. Yeah, I mean, that's one of those things you need to, like, just everyone needs to shut. Even if it's true and it really happened, she can't talk about it. He can't talk about it ever, ever, ever. Yeah. You bury that shit. Or maybe you don't marry your high school Swedish daughter, dirter. That is really what you should be doing.

But honestly, you don't want to turn into old boy, do you? Do you want this situation to happen? The dating pool is so small, too, right? Like, it's Roy Schneider or Floyd Epps will get. I love that you keep calling him Schneider and that's not his name. What's his name? Shider. There's no N there. Well, there is now. He's going to haunt your ass, dude. How about that? I think it's because I knew a family with the N in there. Oh, you knew some Schneiders did. Are you new Rob? Yes. Oh, is this the one? Didn't you guys get kicked out of his last film by the widow Shider?

Oh, no. We just left loudly. Yes. Andrew and I saw his last movie and the widow Shider Shider, yeah. The widow Shider was there and when we got up to leave it made a big enough scene that she looked back in disapproval. She really, she

caught eyes with both of us seemingly at the same time which was impressive and was not thrilled and you know, maybe looking back on it it was rude but also that wasn't a good movie. Well sure that might very well be but that's not you shouldn't have brought Fondu

in there to begin with. Yep. Yep. That was probably spilling it all over as you leave. Of course you're going to get some eyes on you. That was such a weird movie though. It was like he was like a NYPD cop and Holocaust survivor at once. Okay.

And he was he was a Holocaust survivor who was going back to Germany to kill the like the Nazi that had operated the part of a camp he was in or something like that. Doesn't it right? But then you watch it. And it's just it was a, it was a no budget.

He was probably fucking lured under false circumstances. You know what I mean? Like come do this movie with us. Sure. And you're like, this isn't real. Is he standing up at any point?

I really hope not. He was. I mean, he's like the main character of the movie. He's walking around leathery as ever. I mean,

he's standing scenes for sure. This is sort of, I mean, I guess I'm curious about like after what happens after night game because obviously, you know, you got Jaws,

you got your, all that jazz, huge movies. for him. French connection. He's great in. He's in Clute as that pimp, which kind of rules. Oh, right. I forgot about that. Sorcerer. He's amazing in. But then, you know, you got, I'm trying to think

he's in the Punisher movie. I forgot. He's like Grandpa Punisher, which is a movie that I want to watch. Oh, my God. He did a Merrill Street movie still of the night. That's really bad. But just nothing in the 90s. The 90s were not kind of our friend here is what I'm getting at. No, no, no, no, no. So, you know, they risk,

they run down like a long list of suspects that they think and most of these dudes are like already in jail or whatever. There's one guy that they call out the name and he's like, oh, you know, that was an old friend of my father's of the chiefs. Like, he's a deviant. He collects panties to his Roy Scheider defending

this dude says, he's harmless. He's just a sniffer. Just a sniffer. Oh, what? What? The P-Camp? Park Poisoner. Yeah, he grew me up. He was my uncle. Yeah, we knew each other back in the day. No, he wouldn't hurt a fly. He's just, just let, listen, madam, madam, madam, just let him sniff them. Now, he's going to move on. He's, he sniffed it. It's fine. It's fine. I'm not going to press charges and neither are you. It's like when you're confronted with the Tyrannosaurus Rex. Dude, you just freeze. I can't see you.

And it'll move on. And I forget who introduced, not only, yeah, his friends of your father, but then somebody else says he was the muscle of the outfit. Like, you know, Like, what is this? I mean, it is definitely one detail too much. Like him being a washed up, a AAA baseball player that's a detective. I totally buy that. It's kind of cool. It fits with the baseball part of the movie.

Him being ex-mafia royalty that is also now. Why would you, if he fucks up in Dallas, let's send him back to where he's got that huge conflict of interest. Let's do that. My one issue, I think that that is a load bearing. storyline though because you take that out because I would like you if you took that and all the Alex Lynch shit that comes up later when we finally meet this guy and he's on the house near the right on the beach right there and then in the the jail scene especially I want both those things out of here and but then you're like down to 70 minutes

you're not released in that movie so they go to see this dude Donnie who they're like, oh, you know, wait a second, this guy's out, might not have an alibi here, so they go down to this dude. And he's some, like, he seems like kind of disabled. Like, he's just working on a construction crew kind of a thing. And Shiders talking, you know, there's, where were you on this night or whatever? He's like, oh, I was drunk in Houston. There's no way I could have been back here to do it or whatever. I like the old, like, it couldn't have been me because I was drunk in another town. Pretty awesome alibi. That's my alibi every night, my friend.

Yes, yes. I was alone a drunk where no one could see me. Yes, that's my own. And then this is where this guy says, like, yes. Because he's like, Donnie, you're a sick guy. You shouldn't be allowed out in public. But what about Roxy? Aren't you reaching into the cradle? Ah, yes. And he knocks him one, doesn't he? He does. Yeah. Well, because like, Shider tries to go with this guy and he's like, you know, your girlfriend that was murdered was only 17. You're a sick fuck. And he says, yeah, aren't you robbing the cradle to which Roy Shider? slaps this guy in face. And he says next time I want to close my hand.

Ooh. Yeah, dude. Classic case. Dishing it out, can't take it. Every time. It's every time. That's true. And he, I mean, again, like, which is amazing.

So, like, that's the first interview. And then because this guy was muscle for his dad, he goes to this guy's like house, but this other guy's houseboat, Alex is his name. And he's like, you got to get out of town. I'm like, this is way, way, way. not okay. Bad news for you Alex. My boss thinks you rip women apart.

So it is this weird, but it's weird though because he still carries the like heft and like what he says has weight in that way of like you're going to get the fuck out of here and you're never going to come back to

this town. And I'm not saying it as a police detective. I'm saying it as a pseudo third string mafia. Exactly. And there's this line two of Alex, like, oh, Mikey, remember we used to toss you around like a satin pillow. Oh, I would not be bringing that up in front of him anymore.

That could trigger some some memories. He's going to close his hand. I mean, but the thing is, like, if you were really a detective, you'd be like, hey Alex, you would question, so just let me know, where were you on Friday? You know what I mean? Like, right, you didn't do anything. Even if you believed that he didn't do it,

telling him to get out of town is like literally actually interfering with an investigation. And you're making it Where's for that guy? Yes, it's like you are suspected of killing all these girls? Oh, when you fled the town? Exactly. Go see our friends in Pittsburgh, okay?

We're going to, well, they'll take care of you for the weekend. Exactly. They got a safe house for you. And no, I am not a criminal. That is not what I am. Oh, did someone say safe house? Yes, come stay with me, Alex Lynch. I have quite the safe house.

Oh, you're an assassin come to kill me, aren't you? You better not touch my motherfucking lilies! They can do drills together It'd be beautiful That's true So one of the I think most successful sequences In this movie

And indeed the one that feels Most like a horror movie Is right here We go back to the boardwalk There's a couple of bobble babes Having a nice time And they want to go on this fun house Yes

And so it's these two girls Lorraine and Beverly They go into this fun house Oh Beverly Oh don't go in that fun house Beverly You might not come out Yes last time I took Beverly To the Funhouse Wesley came out

Oh, holodeck, 1980s, lower galveston. Have a little Astros game on the radio. That's pretty cool. This is kind of a rematch, a screened-in porch, a little syntha-hall. This is pretty good. That would be awesome, man. And my fucking kingdom for a screened-in porch, dude. God damn.

A holodeck. I would like that. Sure, yeah, give me a holodeck. That's fine, too. but yeah so you know this dude strikes in this fun house in like the hall of mirrors thing it's pretty great they're playing like oh can you find me kind of a thing and then like this dude comes out of nowhere kills this woman the blonde notably a blonde yes and then there's this other woman beverly uh who sees it happen and it's like uh oh and then he attacks this woman and

now this is another thing that fucking just gets totally dropped when we're there you know the very next scene is examining the crime scene and Roy Scheider definitely says that the second woman wasn't dead. There's some line about like we're not going to be able to talk to her for a little bit or something like that and I was like

ooh he left one alive this woman might have information because he says like the guy, the woman saw the guy head on or something like saw his face well this is what happens actually so that happens and then the next scene I think the chief is even talking to either the governor or whomever is like yeah no

we've got a live witness, it's going to be great. And then what you call it, Shider comes in and gives him a very light, shake his head, no, i.e. she just died. Oh, I completely miss that. It's so subtle and it's so whatever, but that's kind of like the thing is like, she is alive for a thing.

They also, by the way, this woman is like, oh, you know, she doesn't fit the profile, she's not blonde, and she's overweight. And I'm like, no, she's not. Dude, I raised the font on my not pad to make a bigger question mark around that. Like she's like, what are you talking about? She's not blonde. Absolutely.

That's, and that's the way you do your little. Oh, she doesn't fit the profile, blah, blah, blah, blah. But no, like, and she's overweight. Which it's insane because you look at these two women and all I could think was which one is doing more blow on the set of this movie. Nope, nope, nope, she doesn't twist in the wind. She's not, she's not skinny enough. I'm sorry. You couldn't lose her between the couch cushion.

She's fat. I do, yeah, I mean, I do like that murder scene. It's pretty cool watching them both get. It is. The fun house mirror and then seeing the killer's face pretty openly here. But like, but coolly distorted, you know, which is neat. But then it's like, that's when I realized that, you know, you guys do too. Like, oh, it doesn't matter who this dude is.

That's not what the, it's not going to be a like, whodunit scream reveal kind of thing. But if you were watching it for the first time, you still would, you would immediately be confused. Because he was like, well, the first lady, like, was, like, was like very much like, oh, it's you. So, like, I am waiting to see somebody. Like, there's some, some elements of, but like, as you find out, no, that doesn't matter at all. That doesn't fucking matter at all. This is character actor, Rex Lynn, most famously to me anyway, and to people from

this show, the heavy from Cliffhanger. Oh, yeah. I think he's like, I think he's Lithgow's number two. Oh, nice. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big moldy with a big mustache.

Yeah. He's all over the place, this guy. Oh, pretty cool. I mean, he at least appears to still be doing. stuff. He's got a picture. His IMDB picture is him in front of a fairly, you know, recent Toronto International Film Festival step and repeat. So he's around. He was one of the, I think one of the bad guys in the postman. That's awesome. Oh, right. He's in Breakdown. He's in a lot of drop zone. He was just

in Blast for the past. Oh, yeah. Jango Unchained as well. This guy's done a ton. No, this is it. The highlight of this career, the jewel and the crown of this man's career. he is Principal Peterson and Young Sheldon. Oh, I see. Wow. How many episodes there? 7,000?

24, man. No, no. No, work with Carpenter and Friedkin, no, sir. Young Sheldon. No, no, no. He actually, he plays a dude

on Better Call Saul that's a pretty decent character that kind of gets a little fucked over at one point. Okay, yeah. Oh, that's, all right, interesting. Yeah, no, he's pretty good

For what little he, you know, has to do in this movie, yeah. But so, like, you know, and again, like, they're like, all right, you know, 18 hours on, blah, blah, blah, blah. Roy Scheider just takes his new child bride out for drinks. They're having a great time to dance. We're dancing at the bar. Absolutely. One quick thing, Steve, just not to go back, but we just got to point out when it actually happens. That fun house scene.

So picture the fun house scene, ladies and gentlemen at home. Broken glass everywhere. Two bodies. someone written, you know, better luck next time or whatever, in blood on the fucking mirror and everything. This is where the dude orders a pizza to the crime scene.

Nice. A little peckish. Just a little peckish at the murder scene. Kielbasa and jalapeno pizza delivered to this crime scene, a joke from a fucking like ninja turtles episode. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, gave me the kilbasa jalapeno pizza, man. It sounds awesome. I gotta say.

I've never had such a thing. I've never heard of kibasa on a pizza before. I've had kilbasa on a pizza in Hawaii and it was really good. They substituted it for ham. I don't know if they ran out of ham or they just do that but it was delightful. I would like to try it. It just seems a little big, but I guess you have to cut it

all the way down. Yeah. Yeah. You're do it a slice of thinness. I'm I mean, listen, I'm having pizza tonight and I'm pissed off that I don't have like a fucking a little sleeve of kilbasa in there. A little slice some of them. What are you fresh out?

Fresh out, dude, honestly, yeah. When did I recently, dude, I bought some kilbasa recently. What the fuck was that for? We had, like, a friend over for dinner, and I was buying, you know, you have someone over to your house for dinner. You have some snackers available. Oh, sure. A little shakutery.

It would be nice. And I bought a thing of fucking kilbasa, dude. It's a great sausage. Our dinner guest and Chelsea ate none of it. I ate this entire thing over that course. So, like, now. Dude, it's just some late night chomping on it. Put it back in the fridge for later.

Underrated sausage, folks. Underrated. I've been known to go through. by myself as well. It just happens like that. Do not, under any circumstances, give this pizza to the captain, the chief there guy.

He will explode like the man from Monty Python. He will just blow out right there, like waper thin stuff. There's a quick thing that happens right here. It winds up leading to something bigger later, but this dude, Bill Essex from the Daily News Sports page

comes to the station and tells Roy Scheider, that he received a phone call at the newspaper. He's, I love this. He's like, now I'm not a crime desk guy. I'm the sports dude, but someone called my desk and said that last night's murder was a total accident and not his fault.

Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I didn't mean to do that. I just wanted to let you let the police know because I don't have their number. I don't. Endless guy. And our hero's shy and say, yeah, that's great.

Nice talking to talk to you, shoot. And that's it. It just doesn't, does not give a. Come back here. Come back here. You think you think the stro's got a chance this year? Exactly. I'll talk to you later. Anyway, I would like to go home and fuck my young bride. Could anybody do this for my job for me, please?

I can't go to the fuck my young bride just yet because I have to go to my favorite bar and loudly talk with this coroner about the gory details of these autopsies. And it's so great because he's like, I got, he says to one of the other cops or something, he's like, I got to go. I have a meeting with the coroner is what this dude says. cut to this bar, amazing. Nice. I mean, it is,

I, this is when you know you're the sick pub because I'd be like right next and be like, what is you saying? Like, because you are,

you're hearing grisly details of this autopsy that happened. And there's two people at the end of the bar who are about to vomit everywhere. This woman complains to the bartender. And I mean, I don't know,

lady. I don't know. You don't know what's going on. You're at, first of all, you're at this skeezy fucking, bar and you're telling me you're going to be like excuse me bartender can you ask those two guys to stop talking about gross things look around you look where you are well the guy the the the coroner

is like he's got like a megaphone he's talking a little loud yeah is he mentioning like you and I going to believe this both virgins oh yes yeah yeah yeah wouldn't you know it virgin which is you know it's surprising I guess because so far he's just mostly killed prostitutes so it's amazing because I cracked their rib cage open with my bear hands. And then I found the heart underneath it. What is that? Is that how you check for a virgin?

That's back in the old days. Oh, yeah, absolutely. We ever know. Back into like the witch days. This is where it's the coroner that calls this Beverly woman fat. Uh-huh. Yeah. Right here.

It's like, and the one difference here, police officer is that he killed a fat girl. Get a fucking mirror, dude. Oh, wait. Was she a great big fat person? I do love the bartender just being like excuse me fellas could you keep the murder talk to a minimum please That's great

Oh so there's a again This fucking my dad was in the mafia Storyline Paul Brousard who is Or Broussard who's Paul Gleason's character Kyle Broussard Kyle arrest this Alex The bum muscle fisherman guy here

And you see what's going on here because the guy he clearly has like something not quite right about him in the noggin and you can see Broussard kind of like going in for the false confession kind of thing yeah he's acting like Rocky in the last

couple years he's been taking a couple two many heads to the head what I need I decided the thing they need to add here is I need to know more about Paul Gleason's character anything he's kind of the problem here is like he keeps on coming in and being this antagonistic force

against Roy Shider and I know nothing about him other than in the background somewhere back there he's a pimp I don't know like what it has to do with this but he is a pimp you almost I mean honestly like the movie's probably better if he's the killer just you know what I mean like it's a little cleaner it's a little like oh okay then that got those scenes kind of added up to something you know what I mean those girls were fucking skimming off the top or whatever and I had to straighten it out well it's funny because I was like okay

Paul Gleason and Lane Smith are both in this movie. And, you know, they're kind of big. I was kind of doing like law and order math. Sure. Yeah. I was like, well, you know, they're the two, you know, the biggest stars outside of Roy Scheider in this movie. So it's got to be one of them. And then I was like sort of deducing, well, Lane Smith in other parts of the country, traveling probably not. Gleason here all the time. It's kind of got to be. Especially with the misnomer's of the handwriting samples being different and. Right. Or like maybe he's unleashing this guy. oh yeah go get him

or killing we're killing women on the side that like are that are part of it but like you know kind of like oh I get stupid into the rug you know what I mean if I use the other killer's MO kind of a thing like right right right

yeah I can kill all the prostitutes that are competition for me and my prostitutes oh that'd be great but he also seems to be the one that knows the most about Mike and Mike's father's history of crime like I like I just want more from this character because he seems to be

explaining all the issues that I'm having problems with right here. Oh, yeah. No, it's like, if that was the movie, you got a kind of good, like, corrupt cop whatever movie there. But we're also, we're doing the hook-handed murderer movie instead. It just seems like we had a lot of ideas on this movie and parts of all of them made it. I'm just looking up really quickly here. Okay, so surprisingly, uh, all. Only two screenwriters on this movie men named Spencer Easterman and Anthony Palmer based on a story by Spencer

Eastman also. Wait, the screenwriter of Kansas? Excuse me? Oh, really? Right, because we see Kansas on the marquee of the theater in the movie. We're having fun, folks. Wait a second, though, you guys. Wait a second.

What a connection I just made. The co-screenwriter of this movie, movie, who, yes, wrote the director's other movie, Kansas. Is the killer? No. He, well, he passed in 1988, but at one time, I don't know how long they were married. He was married to fucking Carol Potter, Cindy Walsh. Wow. Which one of these guys? Eastman or Palmer. Spencer Eastman. He died before this movie came out, 19th of April, 1988. He passed away at the age of 47. Palmer plays

Medoza in this as well. Okay. Oh. So, yeah, Eastman married died young. Married to Carapado. Yeah, lung cancer, 47, Christ. Wow, what a fucking odd connection.

I feel bad for Carol. I was going to say, Mendoza is the greasiest of them all. That's great. I love that there's a fucking detective Mendoza, man, because in my head, I'm just doing mentosa. Yeah, exactly. Over and over again. but yeah so

Shider is like get this fucking dude out of here he's not the guy he says you know oh you just got dealt some rotten cards he says to him and that whole that whole scene

the way Roy Shider's acting in that scene the way he's really given to Paul Gleason all of that is good and 100% from a completely different movie because Roy Shider is not giving that kind of performance in any other scene in this movie except when he punched him in the face

in a little bit but that's it You know what I mean? That's it. And so we're going around, I think at this point, is this the TV scene? This is we're doing, we're doing some driving on the boardwalk. He picks up Roxy. He's got some I'm sorry lingerie that he bought her or whatever. And this is where they go home and he finds the front door open and it's the big like who's in the house and someone mysteriously jumps out the window.

And this, he says, we're told that this was Paul Gleason sent someone over there. house to look through. What he's looking for, what he takes from the first prostitute is her diary or whatever you want to call it. Her journal and appointment book. It's the customer director.

And he's like, oh, he even goes to Mendoza. He's like, run these numbers for me. Let me know if there are any numbers pop out that are interesting kind of a thing. Oh, that's right. Yes. Because it comes to be that Paul Gleason is one of those numbers. Yeah. But like, so that's why Paul Gleason is at his house. but he you know

shame nobody knows nobody has any idea right yeah nobody you could just as easily believe that this would be the killer but we're actually in the other movie that's inside this movie yes yeah it's it's very

it's very confusing movie hopping and staying on the same file so yeah she screams out Mike when the car peels out and he smashes his head on the windowsill so we have to do some little she's got to take care of my baby here oh yeah we're in this fucking

chair and she sits in the recliner with him and like starts kind of kissing on him and whatnot. She goes it's basically, seems kind of strange, no? Fucking on my father's old recliner and all. And then he's like, oh, one day we're going to have to try the bed. Yeah, why don't we try

the bed for once? Oh, fuck. Dude, man, just pure living room sex. That's how exciting this couple is. My question is. You know, you know, if we did it on the bed, maybe you could go down on me. Maybe it would be nice. I don't know. Well, maybe She can go down on him in that fucking recliner.

What are you talking about? You know, I used to go down on your mom in a bed like this. What 1989 Cialis is in this guy popping is my question? That's true. That's a good call. Man, at his age, drinking as much as he is? I think he just like ties a stick on it or something. Got it.

Some twine. Go it's hard. He's got a splint. He's got a splint on it. He just got to do this until it gets hard. Then I can take off this piece of wood. attached to my sheep. It's a scaffolding. It's just to encourage it, you understand.

We're doing it Red Bad Badge of Courage style. One splint with a rapid, rapidism string around. Got to set the bone or... He is... I double checked it. He was 56 making this movie. And yeah, man, smoking and hanging out on a lot of beaches with fucking suntan oil on your face. I mean, he was a hard 57. And in getting your energy from stray pieces of key box... awesome alipino pizza.

I don't know, man. Chris, they forgot the halapeno. That's mentioned. So it's just extra kebos. I do like how the movie does have, it really lets itself air out when we're just talking about one of the toppings was missing on the pizza.

Absolutely. The guy is so disappointed. He's like, oh man, I'm not going to be shit in blood tonight. There's no jalapenias on my pizza. But this, finally, guys, here we go. I know you've been so excited to talk about it. The big scene with the big TV.

Oh, God. because we go up to the mother's place on a Saturday afternoon or whenever it is and he's like you know what? Let's settle things you and I got this enormous television for you She's like well I don't want this TV No no no shut up shut up

And he's putting it on He puts it on top of two other TVs she has By the way Oh no dude it is a microwave It is a TV on top of a microwave He takes the old TV off And proceeds to put the new TV on top of the microwave.

If you have TV on top of a microwave, you've probably been to Golden Corral. Oh, yeah, you could try the cheese fountain or whatever they have. Oh, God. But yes, it's just 19 inches of TV wonder right

here. I love, he turns it on, and she's like, Channel 8 don't even work. Look at that. I watch Channel 8 all the time. Comes in fine on my TV. and he's like, whatever, it changes the channel. And he says very funny, very humorously, nobody gets shall and elite, which is very humorous

to me. Yeah. He goes, he turns on what is the happy news TV show. And it's some fucking asshole news anchor with like sunglasses and hat on for some reason. And this is Shider's best delivery in the movie. He looks straight at the TV and just goes, this guy's an

asshole. But yeah, so he sees, we're looking at wedding footage from the pitcher's wedding around here. Silberetto. He finds, oh, yeah, they were married on July 4th. That's what it is. The TV broadcast is praising the marriage of this pitcher and his new wife. The broadcast is being headed by some, this guy and this goofy headgear. That's what I say. He's wearing like sunglasses and a weird

hat. But it's some, it's like connected, isn't it? Oh, do you think it's like a fucking beer helmet? Yeah, that's what I kind of thought. I have no idea what this fucking thing is, but I was like a complete, I rewounded to try to figure out what this thing is. Dude, Chris Gavin, drunk news, let's do that. I will fucking do that. Absolutely.

That seems about right. And like, yeah, news at 10, you got married recently. Here's your video. And the killer is up in, we find out the killer was up in this. News at 10, I'm going to be sick tonight. So he excused himself from having a,

fucking this boy's life fight with his mother-in-law. Maybe giving someone a television set doesn't mean something. Oh, dude, he is I mean, he is driving back with this is when he drops her off the movies. He's driving his wife off. He's like, listen, I can't go to the movie. I just figure out

about this big case. But your mother could have been a little bit nicer about the television shit. It's all that. And he's like, I don't know. And he's like, she could have said, thank you. It's whatever. Don't I'm getting at. There was no, oh, Mike, that was so thoughtful of you. There was that, he's confetching about this

for a while. Raxie, I still want to get married to you. Don't worry about that, but you just need to know going into it that, uh, listen, not saying thank you for a brilliant television gift like that. Your mother's a fucking bitch. What do you want me to say? She was just like this in high school.

I tried to give her a radio in high school. Turn me down there too. This is the most 50 year old argument they have. Like, this is definitely like, she's not grateful enough is the issue. Yeah. You understand. That's the problem here. So get out of here and maybe I'll fuck your mother later.

I don't know. Yeah, thanks a lot, P-Paw. Thanks for dropping me off with the movies. You curmudgeonly fuck. I'm going to go see this Gene Hackman movie that nobody's seen. Right. That's the other one playing. That's directed by the same director, right?

Yes, Paul Masterson's. It's a Paul Masterson double feature at this movie house. He didn't direct Kansas. Oh, he didn't? Oh, I thought he did. The screenwriter. Oh, oh, God, I got it. What was the title of that one?

The Hackle. Full moon in blue water. Yes. Yes. And that's the one Hackman's in? Yes. Have you seen it? I have not. It's on YouTube. It's, it looks kind of, it's, it's, it's him like managing a bayou bar, it looks like. I might be into it. I know what I'm doing on YouTube tonight. I think full is Burgess Meredith in that too? It's Burgess Meredith and Terry Gar is his wife.

What? Full moon and blue water sounds like the character, the, the category in the, the category in the wheel of fortune I'd be the worst at, which is before and after where it's like, these things smashed together. Full moon in blue water. But da-da-la-da-da-d-d. It's just like that. It's like two phrases smash together.

I'm always the worst at that. Thank you, Pat. Let's see. Oh, I don't know. Does this, let's see. He goes to interview the player's wife. Oh, no, sorry. I was about to read the plot description for full moon and blue water.

It's humor me for a moment. Let's pull over. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's pull over. Well, listen. this this movie night game wants it to be two movies in one movie this podcast episode is going to be two episodes in one episode sure let me put the indicator on okay we can pull over a Texas bar owner misses his missing wife while living with his elderly father-in-law ex-mental patient and female employee who loves him high taxes forced the low sale of the bar but this is written terribly but employees learn a new bridge will raise proper property values. This description is so poorly written. I don't know what the movies is that AI. That sounds like an AI description.

The bar is closing, but there's that here about that new bridge. It might raise the property value. Well, now they got this trailer going on here that's playing. And we got, we got some dead bodies here. Is this the same movie? I know, uh, she can't be still alive. I guess you saw Burgess Meredith? So whatever. Anyway, he goes to this lady's. place and I really feel like he just wants to get a look at this pretty lady kind of a thing well I think you know he's a big baseball fan he wants to see how the pitcher lives too

and you know basically asked them about the time of her marriage and blah blah and then he sees this wedding photo and he's like you mind if I keep this and she's like yes can I say yes that I do mind I'll bring it back at a couple of days I just

I need to who is this shit I never saw that guy before who's the shy guy he says which is very funny. Is it to prove who did the murders with the baseball team? Oh, no, no, no. This has to do with my father, my criminal father.

You see, sweetheart, you're getting your movies mixed up here. This is Paul Gleason's brother up here in the corner. I know him anywhere. I realize, by the way, the page for Full Moon and Blue Water is for some reason automatically playing the trailer for that Gene Hackman movie with Morgan Freeman and Thomas Jane's in it.

What the fuck is this called? Excuse me. There's a murder here. We didn't do this as an episode, but I feel like we kind of talked about it at one point. Morgan Freeman and Thomas Jane are cops that are kind of onto Gene Hackman about something. This is what?

I have no idea. I just Googled it. I guess it's under suspicion from 2000. Okay. Under suspicion is the movie that's playing on this page. Okay. So that's, it makes absolutely no fucking sense. But yeah, so he spies, there's a guy in the wedding photo that's like off in the corner. Doesn't appear to be like part of the, you know, the festivities there. And so he says, who's that guy? She says, oh, I don't know. I don't even remember seeing him or whatever.

Meanwhile, cut back to this movie theater. She's just standing outside waiting for this guy who ain't coming. Yeah, well, it's the world for cell phones. What the fuck do you do? What in the world do you do? You take a ride from Davy and then go dancing. But this is sort of happened before, or this is happening now. So she decides to, yeah, she gets a ride from Davy and she just goes dancing. I mean, like, hey, listen, this is what happens when you're dating a younger woman, dude.

They're, they're a spicy bunch. You want somebody that's going to just go to the movies and go back to bed. You should date this woman's mother, which you already did. We've date both of them. same time I do like the there's a cool shot of because he calls in and he says

to the radio operator because I guess this is what you're doing before cell phones you're radioinging to the office where there is a phone he asked the woman hey call my house and you know if you get Roxy on the horn let me know where she is or whatever I'm trying to get her

can't find her uh oh so he's again he's driving this car on the boardwalk and there's a cool shot of we follow her. She walks into the club and as soon as she goes through like up the steps, Shider pulls into frame in the car. It's one of those cool like ships in the night. Yeah. Just missed each other kind of things, which was pretty nice looking. Then he's looking for her all around and like following other women that sort of look like her. Yes. But we see her like dancing in this club. There's this one. She walks in it one point. You catch this. She's like, oh, hey, Carlo. And it's just some dude,

a full on Steve Sanders mullet in full of. Oh, sure. He looks really. He looks really. fucking great. And then she starts dancing with this dude, Andy. Did you guys get a read on this fella? No, I did. This is the actor Kevin Page, who we know him playing Stu Charnack from Seinfeld, one of the NBC executives.

Oh, okay. Yeah. So they're having like a little sexy dance or whatever. What is his dad's last name? Was it book? Kevin Book. Here's my son, Kevin Page. All right, we don't have to pull over for this one.

But we hear, so, you know, the movie starts kind of dropping some clues as to what the motivation might be because we hear, oh, Barreto gets another win over the radio. And as soon as that happens, we have this shot of Roxy using a pay phone and, uh-oh, killer POV from the same car pulling up. Again, we're driving on the fucking beach or whatever happens in this town. And like she kind of, she's like talking on the phone and then some guys like, are you going to be long? she gets into an argument and then she's not even thank you for mentioning the guy for a second steve this woman is not in this phone booth for 30 seconds and this guy's acting like he's been tapping his toe for five minutes outside this dork what a piece of shit how about you kill some men for once fella also the phone booths are everywhere it was back in the fucking 80s man

they're everywhere and no no no Chris the shitty boardwalk only pay phone oh luckily enough An even drunker woman, but is luckily blonde, walks past her, and now we follow her into, like, the warehouse district. This is what it's getting creepy. She takes her shoes off because she got high heels or whatever. And like the lights go on, the truck lights go on. He's chasing her. She goes into this abandoned place. We get this abandoned warehouse or whatever the fuck it is.

We get an honest to goodness home alone step on a nail scenario. I think what this looks like, because when you see the, the structure. during the day I think this is a we're building new condos or hotels or something like this is a construction site is what's going on

but she steps on a nail and then the killer drops an iron on her head from above a bunch of ornaments too a bunch of cracked ornaments and she's in pain the whole time and here come the paint cans

hey lady do you give up or are you thirsty for more what a fun killer well you know what I'm not alone in here my good friend Michael Jordan will help me let's get out of here

she's hand over handing it over a rope bridge try to get somewhere I do love this weird and again it is out of a completely different movie though the pigeon lady shows up this killer gets a bunch of bird shit in his mouth no no no the phone booth shenanigans here

is cut in half by this shot to Roy Shider with Baby and he's asking baby like, hey, dude, who's you know monitoring shit wherever this kid's eating a sandwich? And Roy Shider goes in this whole thing about like, you know, this

island used to be completely underwater and then a fucking tidal wave blew over the seawall. It's an HP Lovecraft story. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck? Dude, it's this kid who vomited from seeing a cut throat. You're

telling him about this shit? He goes, even the graveyards gave up their dead that night. And I was like, are you the old man at the beginning of the fog? Yeah. What are you doing? There were bodies everywhere. Hey, baby, why don't you cool it with the eating

on the job, okay? Like, you're going to do like some, some out, you get hungry, get peckish, have an apple. You're going to see bloody shit. You're going to hawk that sandwich right up. Exactly. He's eating chomping a big fucking ham sandwich in this scene. Very weird. But yeah, so this woman

chased through. I like when she's being slowly chased by the car right here and she's running in the headlights. Kind of reminded me, did you guys get the vibe of the opening shot of Kiss Me Deadly? I guess so, yeah, I didn't think about it, but yeah, maybe. Just kind of reminded me of that a little bit. I don't know. That's a great movie, Steve. Just check it out at some point.

But yeah, so steps on the nail, killer comes towards her. At this point, this guy from far away kind of is giving off Mark Boone Jr. vibes a little bit. and yeah, just whatever this device is right here again, it's a

just like a fucking gun and, you know, screaming, yada. And they do it cool, like, it's the outline of the construction site at night and then right to daytime. So it's a nice dissolve shot there. And they want, so the next day we find the dead body

and this is when Paul Gleason and Shider finally go out of it. You set people to my house. And you're like, you punch some of the face. And it's like, yeah, because you're like, I don't know. I think you're still in the mafia. Like, I don't know what you want.

It seems like you're still in the mafia. But what is that? A helicopter landing? Dude, and here's the thing. Here's Lane Smith. Welcome back to the movie as Lamar with this helicopter entrance. And I'm like, I don't know, man. You're the guy coming from the governor's office.

You know, you're in the CIA or whatever. And you're supposed to like help this case along. Maybe don't land the helicopter. that's blowing shit everywhere, 50 feet from the crime scene? You literally just turned this into an unsolved murder. Like, there's just no, there's no physical evidence left, you idiots. Dude, Lane Smith comes in blazing in this movie, though, because like, uh, Shider's like yelling at him about something and he's just like, ha, now let me straighten you out before you go all

half cocked here and just like lays down the law as to what, who he is, why he's here. It's a big, fuck you to Roy Scheidtiske. But it's great, too, we got four dead bodies and two months. Actually, it's five dead bodies and four and a half buds. And he's like, we know, whatever. That's fine. I appreciate that, but fuck you. Okay.

So understand that. First of all, it's like, Roy's like, it's too late for decoys. He's starting to change. He's like, well, from where I'm sitting, you're sitting in the back seat. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah. All I've ever wanted was Layton Smith in this movie. And it just doesn't happen.

This is it. This is essentially it. I mean, I do like that his role is, though, is to be like, now listen here, we're going to come in here. This is a baseball slasher movie. No more nonsense about Paul Gleason and your criminal father. None of that shit. We are doing a slasher movie about a baseball nut. Y'all want to work on one plotline at a time, you see.

You're trying to make three movies at once. Now everybody's just jamming into each other. Nothing going to get done. Ain't nothing going to get done. The government has sent me down here to straighten out this movie. and boy does he fail because the next scene is we are stopping

this movie dead to have a Cassavetti's argument in a bridal shop over the size of the wedding and the mother-in-law's taking over the planning this isn't for this movie ladies and gentlemen

why we get to debate the TV again well yeah breaking that up because Shider's pissed off because he's kicked off the case like take a couple days off and if I was Shiders

like oh no I've been taking this whole fucking week off I don't know I've been doing whatever I wanted I had a fun walk on the beach with my bride to be we were getting into some shenanigans in the water there's that quick little scene that they have so yeah

he's been kind of kicking his feet up but it's like all right so now he's at the the bridal shop and they find a dress and he's just like I don't know they said this wedding's getting so big your mother's telling me I have to bring this people and that people's 60 people in a wedding my gosh

and I'm like that's not that big of a it's a no Steve it doesn't matter because this is I find this so offensive. Like, parents that bud in like this, get a fucking life. Get an absolute fucking life in any way you can. This lady's taking this over and it's like clearly living vicariously

through this daughter and whatever. She wants to marry him because she fucked him fucking 30 years ago. Sure. Yeah, well, it was when the beach boys were putting out good singles. They were fucking like, they both love the wedding dress. It's beautiful, yada, yada. But she comes in and she's like, where's the train? You need a train for all the little kids.

kiddies to carry it. Oh, my so-and-so second cousin once removed. Get fucked, lady. It is a real, it isn't get fucked. I mean, but this is what you, you got to be a little bit more strategic there, 60-year-old man, and pull your fucking girl, girlfriend aside of it. We can't be having all these people at the wedding sweetheart. She's going to be ridiculous.

Go talk to you about you guys have a nice cup of coffee and you talk to her and tell her that this isn't going to have. Instead of me, like, what the fuck happened to that TV, you dumb bitch. She starts doing. And he's like doing aside to like this horrified. sales movies like i bought her a fucking tv you see how she treats me dude that that girl in playing the bridal shop salesperson here has one of the best performances in the movie because it's nearly silent and most of it is her wide-eyed and mouth agape staring at these people it's incredibly

funny she has a great story for her husband when she gets home oh yes you know who she reminded me of remember um oh god in society like the sexy girl's mom who's just like a John Waters. Oh, yes, yeah, totally. This lady kind of reminded me that because she's not talking, and they're like, they're actually talking to her. Like, can you believe her with the TV

and whatever else? And she's like, gha, like mouth open, quiet. I do love the line where the mother-in-law's like, what, you buy it on the paper? I said, yes, I did, as a matter of fact. It's like, all right, so it's been three days. What are you, 10 bucks? And he's like, oh, right.

And then he's like, you know what? Leave it outside the front door. And that's what he keeps saying over and over as he's leaving. Yes. outside and he starts mouthing it He stops and turns back

While in the doorway Mouthing front door That one The last the evil mouthing Look I swear to God I would have put money on After he mouths front door He does the like

Or else thumb across the throat thing He's getting so salty About this TV I mean it turns out he could be the killer Right look at this guy What a twist that There's no one else I know that loves night games and then something, something.

He starts piecing it together. Yes. Yeah. And basically the idea you know, it's always been a night game. It's always a win. And it's always a burrito. This guy, Barreto wins. That's how he, that's how he comes through. He has this little Sherlock moment. He goes, yeah, yeah. Every time Barreto wins, I lose. Wait a minute. Every time Barreto wins, I lose. Hello. And the random reporter who came up late, like 30 minutes ago, comes back and is like,

Well, I got this computer here that will tell you what your movie's about if you want to, here, we've got to type it in here. Yeah, it turns out, yep, okay, yep. When he wins, it turns out a lady dies. That's what your movie's about. But the fun house was, there's another guy named like Borrego on the team who got the win that night. But the guy kept calling him Barreto and like our hero, our serial killer got confused and it killed on the wrong night, which I find fucking hilarious. It's very funny. Especially since he was on the team.

Yes, exactly. Wouldn't you know that it do Borrego and Barreto at that point or whatever the two names are? There's also something, because I think the game that they're speaking about here is the game that's happening when he goes to Andy's Boat House. Yeah. And what you hear the announcers say, because the guy fucks it up on the radio too, because he says that the win was for Barreto. Yes. And then the other announcer is like, actually Barreto only played four innings or whatever it was. And then the other guy relieved him and he pitched the majority of the game.

It's his win or whatever. And I guess like the killer just turned it off before the correction happened. I just imagine like Gacy being brought into jail. Actually, Cynthia Smith, that wasn't, that wasn't a real one. I'm sorry about that one. That wasn't my calendar. It didn't line up the right way. I meant it.

I'm stupid. I'm sorry. That was one. I meant I wanted to kill her younger son, but then I killed her by accident. so that was that's on me that's look i've admitted to you to killing 20 women all right like obviously if i'm telling you i didn't kill that one what difference does it make of course i didn't oh look why would i lie about that i told you i killed 20 women i swore to god the house was in the fifth moon i i really thought it was it was not i'm sorry well that's the thing is i mean like all these

i mean obviously the tired serial killer trope of like whatever it's like i kill on nights and you know what it's the moon or this one it's right it's night games sticklers It is kind of funny to watch somebody fuck it up. It is pretty great. Rarely does that happen like an oopsie, a serial killer oopsie. Right. Oh, shit. I thought, God damn.

I thought she was a twin. I only killed, fuck. I really thought, no, that girl looks a lot like her. Okay, no, I see it now. Yeah. The bitch, her best friend looks exactly. Oh, they're cousins. God damn it.

So the act comes up to a car. Oh, you don't have a date? It's just you in this car? Oh, I, I, there's no woman here. Oh, okay. Is someone getting dropped off to meet you to sit this car with you? Because I'll wait. Because, you know, I put the bag on my head and everything.

I mean, I clean it. I clean it every time I do this. So it's, it's brand spanking new. The son of Sam comes back to his Bronx apartment, the dog is barking. Do not start with me. Yes, I know I fucked it up, okay? I don't need to hear from you that I fucked this one up. Woof, woof, woof, you should listen to me more.

Woof, woof, woof. so what here we get like uh the we're playing pool with captain heart attack yeah it is i mean look again and i don't know if i mean i hope it was just the the character but like man this guy is holding on the life at every moment he really is i was this was the scene i was really worried for him because he's got the cue in his hand it's like what do you want it's been a couple decades since the chase richard bradford is not looking as good as he used to And it's, it's really embarrassing, too, because, like, he's wasted, and he's like, you think I'm a chicken shit, chicken lyric coward, don't you?

Don't you, Roy Shider? He's like, I just do whatever the governor says. And he's like, well, yeah, but I also ran this notebook. And guess what? Paul Gleason's crook. Remember the first movie we were in? Yeah. Paul Gleason's actually crooked.

And that's what this notebook proves. He's like, you lucky, son of a bitch. This guy's my favorite. You know what? It's an awesome way he reveals it, though, because he's like, this is the number that came up the most. Call that number. Oh, that's right.

The chief calls it. And this woman, uh, Paul goes out on a houseboat, by the way. Paul is not on a houseboat. Does she bring him the phone or does Paul? Because that's the other thing. She's coming out with like a drink or something. Oh, yeah, you're right. And it's like he just listens for a second, realizes it's Gleason and hangs up.

I realize, though, the other funny thing is there is all that shit where Shider, man there are just two movies here where he's telling the chief he's like because he has the it's not the registration it's like the make and model of gleason's boat and he's like you think a cop on our salaries can afford that kind of a boat or whatever like adding more onto the successful pimp subplot yes but also yeah shiter is still fucking is really sweating this tv dude i mean honestly i love paul gleason hanging up the phone here he goes how would you like to kiss my black cat's ass it's a very Paul Gleason

fucking delivery there well I'll be damned ha ha and but then Roy says well that's what movie solved I still gotta solve

the other movie I'll be back in a little bit come on I have a drink movie no no no no I got the other movie to fix I'm going to the ball game now chief

you know this sweating this cursing this crying you're doing that's the reason why you are not fucking the daughter of a woman you used to fuck okay that's why the big papa does the big game you know let me let's lay off the

klobasa pizzas let's get let's put the beer down it's got a mineral water going here yes and then one day you will fuck a 19 year old when shiter goes to meet with the sports writer and they're looking through the statistics or whatever and he's figuring this all out um he also the way they sort of figure out who it is he's this is insane because he's like he's asking the sports writer later like oh uh beretto oh he go that So Scheider goes to the Astrodome. He goes to the game and he's in the press box with this writer. And he's like, hey, when Barreto was moved up, you know, as a starter, did they have to

switch him out with somebody? Did someone have to leave the team to make room for Barreto? And he's like, oh, yeah, actually, it was this guy Epps. Oh, yeah, Epps. What was the thing with that guy? Yeah, he got fired. And then what was it? The sports writer was trying to think he's like, what was the other?

Oh, yeah. On the bus out of town, he got team. and lost his hand in the act to amputate his pitching hand. Sounds like I got a winner. I'll say that. I mentioned this recently. I don't remember what episode was on. But once again,

this is Chris Farley as the security guard in Wayne's world. With all the information dumping out of his mouth right here. But also like, all right, so this causes you to be like, oh, my, I'll have my revenge. I'm going to kill attractive blonde women on nights that you win. like wouldn't you either A. Kill Barreto B killed the coach that fired you or the general manager or

or start killing off the players something. His wife is a blonde woman. Excuse me guys. These are all, this would all take a lot of work. What you're talking about getting through the security of the people in front of this would take a lot of work. Women do not have,

women walking to their cars on the beach does not happen. It is so much easier to kill strangers. I'm right now. It is. And if you're just this guy who's like taking pills and drinking all the time, then yeah, you just are like, yeah, I'll just kill. All I have to do is make sure I keep. And he can't even do that. He can't even keep charge of what the thing he's going to kill over. Yes. He's like. Don't give him anything more than that. Taking pills and drinking all the time. He's for me. He's me for real, you know. There is a thing here that like it should be kind of like a we're racing against. the clock sort of thing here but like one of the things that's kind of a bummer is aside from like some

exquisite uses of sexophone in the film the score is kind of a dud so during this whole thing where it's like he's racing to get to Epps House they're going to pick up Epps and like he's listening to the Astros game on the radio and

you know he doesn't he's rooting he's actively rooting against them right here because if they win there will be a murder and like so an Astros like has a nice hit. Like, uh-oh, it's going to go over the wall and he's like, hook, foul, hook foul, all this shit. And then he gets pulled over and it should be like,

oh, these cops are wasting his time. You know, don't they know who he is? He's got to get there. But like, it's just he gets pulled over. Yes. And it's kind of slow and quiet. Sorry about that, Lieutenant. We didn't know. And he's like, well, you're just doing your job. I know. Let me

put my blinker on and safely pull back on the movie pulls over. In the climax. wouldn't there be a thing where like he calls the Astros like listen you gotta do anything you can but you can't play Borrego tonight you know what I mean or like you know

say that there's a fucking delay for some reason you know like get the Astros involved but no and like I don't even know how he winds up just coming upon I mean like his girlfriend has had a what he called there a bull's eye on her back because she's blonde the entire movie right

and he's like he finds the mother because they're still like kind of on the outs after the whole wedding shopping incident and like at some point Roxy says that the wedding is postponed because he quote oh fuck what he not hit but like

knocked around my mother or something but she just means the fight oh what is the line and I was like that's a weird way to put that oh yeah oh yeah that's what it is the wedding's postponed because he attacked my mother nice that's awesome but they're just talking

about the TV argument verbally we never saw what happened with that front door that's true where he's that three hour cut where he's smacking her yeah actually

maybe there was a deleted scene where he did fucking throw the TV he closed his hand oh no he threatened to do it and then he did it but the

he's actively trying to find Roxy at this point because they raid Epps's house Epps is not home, but uh-oh, there's a bunch of fucking psycho newspaper clippings all over the place. So that doesn't bode well. So now he's like, uh-oh, got to find, got to find my gal Roxy is the idea.

And while that's going on, Barreto does get the win. Said again, you're sitting there like, Barreto got the win. A murder is on for tonight. Like, this should be thrilling. And the score is just like, it's like, it's like there's no urgency to any of, Like, if you just, if this was a better crafted movie, like, the suspense could be there. It's absolutely. I just, I can't even get a stitches out sill.

Like, I can't get something. Some nice, some big roaring, like, climax. He wants to kill Sill now. That's what he wants to do. Yes. Like, anything like that. But no, no, no. It's just she's drunk and he wants to kill Shreider's wife.

Right. So he is at, it turns out he's at the same bars, Roxy. I got to tell you, man, like, yeah, bummer about your hand and whatnot, but, like, publicly vandalizing, like, this bar, like carving shit into it. Not cool. I know you're a serial killer, but not cool, man. He's got to blow off some steam somehow. Yeah, that's true. That's better than killing women, although he's going to do both, isn't he?

Well, yeah. Speaking of a heavy breathing in this movie, he's, like, staring at this woman. Yeah, he's a guy at a bar. Someone's like, you all. right man he's breathing just like when the chief is looking at a thing

same way just exactly the same and then this is like I doubt we're trying to say something here but I don't know why we execute this final cat mouse this way like she's at a crowded bar

and this dude's looking at her and then she gets spooked and like walks through the kitchen and then like There's people there too, obviously, whatever. But then, like, goes outside alone. And I was like, stay in the bar. Oh, yeah, absolutely. What are you doing?

There's like 60 people all around. He knows right up to that bartender. That's where you want to be. Meanwhile, we're doing like a, I think Shider has called. It's like, oh, the guy's name. It's Flynn or whatever the fuck it is. And Floyd Epps. And they go, they go to his house and they find basically,

it is a Finkel and his ironhorn kind of esk, what are he called there? what do you call not montage god damn it collage calage thank you of all like yeah no it's like I said he's got the newspaper clip in the house yeah

it's yeah man all of this is getting me kind of interested maybe an Ace Ventura revisit it's been at least I don't know 15 years since I've seen that movie that ending is rough

but that is a megawatt performance like is it like with the ending and everything in Einhorn and Einhorn Bien Finkel. Is the whole movie littered with transphobia or is it just No, it's a little quote quote twist at the end of it. Here and there.

You get some stuff of it. It's all of the 90s stuff that you come to expect is there. That specific stuff doesn't happen till towards the end. Because that's like all the guys are puking. There's also, he learns about it beforehand before revealing it to everyone who then vomits or whatever. He's like burning his

clothes or something? And does everybody remember what is playing when he's burning his game song? Yes, the song, the crying game. Oh, fuck. It's just everybody

get it. It's a shame that both Ace Ventura movies are totally marred with problems. Oh, man, the second one that second one is a mind feel. Because it's a fun character. Yes, it's a fun character

to really dicey movies. Unfortunate, yeah. But yeah, so he is just kind of creeping around. They go outside onto the pier and he attacks her right here. And this is, it's not funny, but boy, I had to laugh because this is just poor movie logic right here. Like, you're telling me, she's banging on these fucking windows. And all I could think about was Rick Moran's. Yes, because nobody in the restaurant goes to help. And they're like, oh, look, this big fucking

meathead Rob Reiner looking dude is attacking this woman. Let's just sit and see how this place is out. And it's not like it's like a section, like a different section of the restaurant. It's like where you go to take a smoke break? Like everybody is paying attention to this area. Like it makes no sense. They're all just watching this woman be assaulted. And then like Roy Scheider comes in. He's like, hey, why does no one help him?

What the fuck's going on? We thought they were dating. Wouldn't people be on high alert because of all the blonde women that are getting murdered, the governor is getting involved, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. You know what's funny? She should have had a gun, all right? I think you're totally right, Steve.

And I think why that shit is absent from this because it's like you pointed out already, my friend, any kind of mention about like stuff we have to do that will handicap the town's GDP in any way, you know what I mean? Like the income from the town or whatever. Like you can't do that because it's just too much chief brody for jaws and clothes at the beaches. So it's like everything's open.

No one in this town is really scared about what's going on. The only instance you ever even get of that, is when Roxy says to the mother like, I want to go listen to some live music and walks off and she's like, you be careful out there. Like, that's kind of it, but you're right. Like, this town should be walking on eggshells. A blonde woman should be wearing hats.

You know what I mean? Like, or stop dying their hair. Oh, shave it. Just go go, go picket, you know? Shanaid O'Connor it. I do love he goes to confront this guy and like this dude has a fucking murderous hook hand to your betrothed neck here

and you come out and you biff this guy's name he comes out he's like all right Lloyd and he's like Floyd my name is Floyd that could be the ball game right there Roy Scheider and Roy's obsessed with baseball in the Houston Astros he doesn't know this come on yeah like you know that guy what are you talking about oh it's fucking embarrassing this guy's such a bad cop it's great

and you know they kind of get into it here Epps throws Roy Shider through this window. Pretty good Roy Shider stunt double work here. And then he jumps back up. He jumps back up and tackles him on the back. It's fun. Meanwhile, people are still like, yeah, I'll take another Tom Collins. What's going on out there?

Is this the entertainment for the evening? This is great. I thought they'd be in mud. Oh, shit. You have Magic Hat? Oh, yeah, three of those. Maybe the Jello comes later. I don't get it.

But he just fucking shoots this dude off the pier. It's a good, it's that actor falling in the water. It sure is. Three times, it's pretty good. I love a good waterfall. As a guy falling into water, not an actual water. I like a guy falling in water. I got to, yeah.

And that's like, that's kind of it. And it just sort of cuts to it's, they do have the big wedding after all is the idea. Yes. Like the mother-in-law got the way. There's tons of people outside, making a big stink over it. That is going to be a hell of a speech at that wedding from that mother.

Well, we both know what he's packing anyway. I know the damage he can do down there, young lady. He has such a cute dick, wouldn't you say, daughter? Well, I really hope in the 30 years since we've gone, he can last more than three minutes. Am I right, ladies and gentlemen, am I, am I right? I love the idea that the mother-in-law would be asked to get up and roast. And yes, yes, we never did a paternity test because why ruin the surprise, right? Oh, my God.

I also, so the very, so they rush out, you know, it's a beautiful wedding. You know, mother-in-law gets her way. And apparently the Houston Astros, we're so thankful to this detective for saving the day by, I mean, if I'm the Astros, I'm like, I don't want my name anywhere near this shit. I don't know. This is a PR nightmare. Exactly. I mean, I'm shocked that they're even, they even use the name in the movie. major league baseball was like yeah yeah night night game yeah like you can make it great point though

Eric I have to say I love that it's the Houston Astros there's footage of like real players coaches at one point you're in the Astrodome RIPD that fucking arena got a bad deal at the end of the day like that stuff all like really adds something that the movie needs yeah so you're really lacking in a lot of early 90s the MLB was getting nutty with it right because the naked gun is the angels, right? Yes, that's true. The fan is the Giants, I think, San Francisco Giants. That sounds right. But Eric, I mean, you're

right, they learned the lesson you were asking them to learn. They did. They actually got it. They're like, oh yeah, this makes this little terrible. We'll not do this again. Do you know, do you guys know the it's the fucking made dear of that happening speaking of Major League Baseball? It is in a movie

that I still believe is to stay tuned even though I have not seen it in a very long time. the end of anger management with Adam Sandler and Nicholson what happens there? It ends at Yankee Stadium and we're out on the field fucking around for some reason and all of a sudden it's like

what do you think about that Mayor Giuliani it cuts to Rudy and he's there at Yankee Stadium and he's just like I'm going to say yeah I'll allow it, yeah, allow that yeah like whatever it is I don't remember

it is. The Sandman's like proposing the Marissa Tomey or so I don't know what it is but it's just like that one that's the worst because that movie came out in 2002 the whole fucking America's mayor thing dude looking back on that movie now that's got to be funny they do a similar thing in the the remake of fever pitch with Jimmy Fallon when it's the red the Red Sox and they bring out the mayor of Boston which is Mark Wahlberg of course oh Walberg's in that movie I completely forget they bring out somebody at the end because I mean it's all in the fucking park. Most of that movie is in the fucking park.

Oh, got it. Okay. Yeah, never, never bothered with Stephen Pitts starring Jimmy Fallon. Where it started to wear off and they stopped doing shit. Because you know, like Major League was huge. They did a lot of. True. The rookie with the Cubs kid movie, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. A rookie of the year. That's actually the Cubs. Previous episode. Totally right. But yeah, that's, they go to the Astrodome. Like, they get the car and it's like the can.

hands are being, you know, dragged behind. So you think, like, oh, they're off for the honeymoon or whatever. No, no, no, no. We're going to the Astrodome because the Astros have hooked us up. Yes. Because I murdered their former player. Got that guy off the streets. Front row seats. She's still in the wedding dress.

He's in the tucks. And I got to feel. Hang it up the guy's jersey. He just kills. Oh, yeah, they're retiring that. And then what's his face? The pitcher, Sterego, or whatever his name is like, thank you. And he's like, oh, thank you for the thrills. What is that even?

Yeah. Like the thrills of he likes, you know, he thinks he's a good baseball picture, I think is what it is. I would have been like, hey, you know, just an FYI, Sterego, you know, if you missed a couple of those, a couple of women would still be alive. You enjoy yourself tonight, though, pal. You know, technically, you are so good at baseball and that's great and everything. But your greatness is why they're deceased. It's my wedding. Could you just give me a favor and lose this game so that there isn't a copycat and I have to do something?

Yeah, totally. I don't want the phone going off it too. o'clock in the morning, you understand. It is really great when this guy, Silberetto there, whatever it goes. He's, because he's just finished, like, warm-ups, and they are ready to start the game.

And he leaves them out, and it's so great. There's two, like, Astros coaches, and the guy turns, he's like, the hell is he doing? Like, this dude's fucking furious. But, yeah, thanks for all the thrills. Close out. On some credits, we're definitely using the John Carpenter font. Nice, yeah, I like it.

His end credits, which was pretty cool. but yeah, that's the movie. That's Night Game, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, yeah. The first of what will be a few more listener-requested episodes coming your way this month, of course. But big thanks, of course, to, oh, Ben from Wisconsin for calling this one in here. We'll go around the horn here. Final Thoughts. Chris Cabin on Night Game, 1989. Oh, yeah, a huge recommend a lot of fun, a hangout movie if there ever was one,

because if you don't decide what movie you want to make, you are just hanging out with all these different kinds of movies. And, you know, it becomes a little bit more leisurely. And I kind of like that. Roy Shider is just hanging out and getting pissed at his mother-in-law. That's fantastic. And, you know, I think it's made well. I think it moves pretty quick, pretty well.

You know, I didn't, all the storylines that get dropped were bothering me. But the pace of the thing, like, I didn't feel like I was ever, like, stalled out on images. Like, it kept on moving. Yeah. And, yeah, I just enjoyed it quite a lot. Steve Saneck, you know, I guess I'm the lone man out here. I find little, I liked it. I like the tone.

I love Shider. I mean, I just like watching. Roy Shider is the reason this movie works even at all, like his charisma, his. And I mean, you know, he's not exactly to throw fastballs here, but he's still like in it. You know what I mean? Like, and he's, he cares. It's a light recommend for me. it's all the the drop plat lines

I could have used a little bit more of a goryer kill or something or something you know FYI it was pretty fun I had fun with it uh yeah Eric Siska yeah I think I yeah so it's just a straight recommend for me I I think I do lean a little towards Chris's opinion I do it's like a mangy movie

loose threads it's it's a shaggy dog Shaggy. But I had a great time just kind of hanging out with it. So it is a recommend for me. Yeah, no, it's a recommend for me too. Yeah, it's a movie that's pretty sloppy and kind of like biffs that ending pretty hard because it's just kind of ridiculous that no one's

helping that woman in a crowded restaurant. Like you should have shot that someplace else. It makes no sense. Get on the fucking roof. Do it there. Do that part there. You know what I mean? She goes up for a smoke and, uh-oh, there he is. But whatever. No, this is just, you know, those fucking sweaty-ass dude shitty cop movies like this that has a big start. Like, this reminded me

of a less good night moves with Gene Hackman, speaking of the hack. That's a great fucking movie. Speaking of fondue, there's fondue post-coitus fondue in that movie. Sounds awesome to move. That's where he says, you're a wrecked nipples. Also, that's from that movie. So, like, this is a less good,

it's a weird because this is a movie, you know, release in 1989, it feels like it would have had a better shot if it was made and released sometime in the mid to late 70s because it feels like that kind of movie you have Shider in it so that's kind of helping that

it's weird that this sort of movie exists in the way it does in 1989 because it feels like something that would have been you know at the time if you release in the 70s you'd be like oh it's a fucking dirty Harry ripoff or kind of whatever but as it is

it's kind of fun man I have to say so recommend for me you can find it streaming on Prime, I think, here in the States. That is going to do it for the first of what I've already said. It will be a few listener requested episodes this month. But if you want more We Hate Movies, of course, check out Patreon.com slash we hate movies, y'all. Because there are listener requested things going on over there as well,

including Chris Cabin. This is a big one for you. Man, the We Love Movies episode this month is going to be what? The Fugitive, baby. Yeah. Finally going to Shytown. We're going to be taking our Provasic

Another one-armed criminal, by the way. That's true. Fuck, you're right. How about that? Those guys are always after people, huh? Yeah, I mean, think about, you know, I know what you did last summer, that guy had problems.

And a hook hand. Or he was holding a hook. It wasn't a hook hand, though. But now. It could have been. Maybe the sequel, it was a hook. I don't know. Anyway, yes, that's going to be awesome.

We have not recorded that yet. I'm very excited for it. Uh, the animation damnation, Steve is, we're going back to a cartoon we covered several years ago, if I'm remembering. That is right. We were talking about Brave Star, uh, which is a space cowboy something or other where the, the horse is a man and it's terrifying. Uh, we haven't talked about this at a really long time. I'm excited to go back to it. Uh, it's a lot of fun. Uh, yeah, that's, uh, that's going to be ridiculous. I, yeah, I remember being like, totally blown away that first episode we did just. just being like, what is this movie? Or what is this cartoon, rather?

How is this a thing? So that's going to be pretty great. Over on the Nexus, of course, we do have some specialty Eps going on. We're doing a Voyager episode called The Thaw, which Michael McKean plays like a clown that's inside a computer system or something, and it's real obnoxious,

real obnoxious fucking episode of Voyager. But it's like, it's McKeon having fun. You know, so that'll be something there. And then we also drew the Strange New Worlds episode, Those Old Scientists, which I think is a really fun episode of Star Trek. You get some live action, Jack Quaid and Tony Newsom there, playing their lower decks characters, which is an animated show. So that's kind of neat, see it fun, how they juggle that whole thing.

And then on the Gleep Glouclipp, we have a patron-requested Gleap that we have to gloop about. That's right. We're going to glop and gleep about what I'm hearing is now pretty, announce savage oppress. Oh. So it's a Clone Wars TV show character. Remember how you folks always tell me that's a good show. Anyway, it's Darth Moll's brother, folks.

Savage Opress, Savage, Opress. However you say it, we're going to say it both ways on the Gleet Flosser. You got to say it like the Johnny Depp Cologne. It's got to be Sauvart. Chavage. Savage. And just like that clone, it's oppressing. That Cologne's got to smell like cigarettes and toilet water, right?

Like literal toilet water, not owed to toilet. Like the shit in his bed. Oh, right. I forgot about Johnny's shitty bed. But, of course, folks, next week on We Hate Movies, which you can get, by the way, ad free on Patreon at the $8 level and up if you're bumming on commercials that you've possibly heard here today. Anyway, We Hate Movies continues next week, ad free or otherwise,

with another listener requested. episode, Steve. What are we being made to watch? Forced at Gunpoint next week? Well, it's kind of amazing because I mean, all these were to listen requests on episodes, but this is the only episode we've ever been paid a million dollars to do. Which is pretty incredible.

Oh, yeah. Indecent proposal. Oh, I'd do that episode for a million dollars. Absolutely. Hell yeah. I'm excited, man. I've never actually seen this movie. I haven't seen it in like 25 years. Yeah. I saw it as a kid. For all the wrong reasons. I'm excited to see it again. it's just one of those like

parodied throughout pop culture endlessly. Oh yeah. You know, so I'm excited to see the real deal next week when we're talking indecent proposal. Until then I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen said. Eric Siska. Chris Gavin. Take it easy. Thank you.