We Hate Movies - S14 Ep731: Major League
Episode Date: April 2, 2024“Yes! Bring me more of that sharp profanity!” - Andrew on the Major League script On this week’s episode, we’re kicking off SHEENPRIL here on We Hate Movies with a chat about the beloved spo...rts comedy, Major League! How bonkers is it that Tom Berenger’s Jake Taylor is straight-up stalking Rene Russo’s Lynn Wells throughout this whole movie? Was the real Willie Mays Hayes murdered by Wesley’s character and this guy just took his place at the tryouts? How many pounds of gravel did James Gammon have to eat throughout his life to get that majestic voice? And who knew Sheen’s Ricky “Wild Thing” Vaughn was going to be such a huge sensation? PLUS: Who wins in a fight between James Gammon and Rip Torn?! Major League stars Tom Berenger, Charlie Sheen, Corbin Bernsen, Margaret Whitton, James Gammon, Rene Russo, Wesley Snipes, Charles Cyphers, Chelcie Ross, Dennis Haysbert, and Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle; directed by David S. Ward. This episode is brought to you in part by Rocket Money. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. That’s RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. And also by Astepro! Get fast-acting nasal allergy symptom relief with Astepro. Go to Astepro allergy dot com for a discount so you can Astepro and Go! today. A-S-T-E-P-R-O allergy dot com. Astepro and Go! Use as directed for relief of nasal congestion, runny nose, sneezing and itchy nose due to allergies. Be sure to catch us on tour this spring, y’all! We’ll be in Atlanta on 4/25 (Gamer), Houston on 5/14 (Robocop 2), and Austin on 5/15 (From Dusk Till Dawn)! Tickets are on sale now and meet & greets are happening at all shows, so head to our website and pick up your tix today—we wanna see you out there! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new NIGHT VISION, Too Old For This Shit and Time Runner designs!
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this week on the program. Get ready to strike out hard. We're talking about Major League. Up to the plate. I'm Andrew Jupin. I'm questionable mascot, Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Mild thing. Chris Cabin. And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies.
Thank you for tuning in.
As always, that's right.
We are kicking off Sheenpro, one of the dumbest theme months on record.
Awful.
Talking about Major League.
from 1989 written, written, directed by David S. Ward.
Oh, man, the king.
King Ralph, the man himself.
King Ralph directed King Ralph this guy did.
So he's going to live in heaven for the rest of it?
Oh, yeah, yeah. That's all halla, right there.
Oh, definitely. Great film.
Yes. Oh, wonderful.
Down Periscope, not so much.
Not so much.
This, it's all right.
You might be asking why Charlie Sheet and the answer is, I don't really know.
I think we just had a bunch of Charlie Sheet movies in, like, in the hopper.
And we're like, let's just.
We haven't done them.
There's so many we have.
done exactly like we've literally been talking for like years about doing men at work yes i feel
uh the rookie has come up a lot so this is kind of just a nice way it's a dump it's a it's really
it's just a dump yeah we're taking a sheen taking a huge sheen all over the feed this
big hot sheen which is uh but this is an interesting sheen movie because he's a second build here
and it had been a really long time since i'd seen this i've seen a few times over the
over the years, but I had
way more of a memory, and I think this is
kind of me possibly mixing
part two a little bit of Sheen
being in the movie more. I forgot
how much of this movie is straight up the Tom
Berringer show. It's like an ensemble.
I think you just nailed
its main problem.
Pick a perspective. It's well,
Barringer's specific, the Berringer's.
You got beef with Berringer, bro?
I mean, anybody who's an enterprising
little YouTuber out there, Eric, if you would
like to put this on,
The creepy misdoubt fire trailer, you can do that so easily with the Tom Berger's storyline
in this, you just take out all the pleakly Barry Manilow ballads that are playing out over him
and René Rousseau's and put a, he legit, he legit, like actually like full on like the
definition of stalking, he does it.
Corners her in one's like literally corners her.
She tries to give a fake phone number.
She tries to get away from this dude.
And he's just like, I don't think so.
I'm following your home.
Classic starker mistake, though, the first time it goes to follow her home.
Oops, this is in her house and I just walked in anyway.
Oh, now I'm in a high society party and they're going to look at me.
Better kill everybody.
Oh, my God, I should probably kill him.
Oh, my God, I should probably kill him.
Yeah.
Speaking of conflating the second one, which I guess I have also seen a lot of and maybe even seen more than the first one, I was like, where's Randy Quaid?
Where on earth is Randy Quaid?
He's in the second one.
I'm often thinking that.
Where is it? Starwackers.
They got it more from like a self-defense perspective.
Is Randy Quaid going to jump out of some closet and stab me the death?
You have to be ready at all times.
I would love to be stabbed to death by Randy Quaid.
And if he wants to do it, let him do it.
And this is legal documentation that it's okay if he doesn't.
We will be giving Eric's home address later in the episode for people who are interested.
Oh, that's not for people that are.
did for Randy Quaid.
Then I could plan
little traps around the house.
It'll be fun.
We're going to broadcast it in a pitch
only Randy Quaid can hear.
Yes.
The dog pitch.
Get it out there.
Or the far pitch.
Someone's given out Erick's Andreas.
Because he plays like one of the
like Cleveland chorus
in the second movie like
You guys suck.
That's where they were like from this first movie
they were like man we keep cut into all like
the bleacher creatures and whatnot.
They're all just like
Cleveland nothing people
why don't we throw like an actual
known face out there
oh my god Twinsday into this movie where you get some crowd
shots whole like real
crowd shots oh my god
chill you right to the bone it is insane
we do start ironically enough
we start on the first shot of the movie
is the Cleveland Guardian which is pretty
fucking funny yes you're totally right
gave them the idea to rename the team
which is you know and I mean
good on them you know
He's honestly like all this shit, the TP, he, because Bob Yucer is like, we're coming out of the
TP going on a warpath.
And I'm like, oh, man.
Oh, dude.
The tribe, they're calling them.
The tribe.
Yeah, I mean, it's endless.
Every time Bob Yucer opens his mouth of this, like every other time.
Yes.
Because I do think the times that he's not doing that, he's so fucking funny in this movie.
He's great.
But it's just like, he was throwing like one after another.
And I was like, how do you keep coming up with these Bob Uker?
My God.
The name of the show is.
T.P. Talk.
Yes. Oh, yes.
Radio show. We're going to have a powwow
with these two.
And they changed
it first before the Red Skids, which is worse.
The Redskins was always worse.
Yes. Yes. Is the Atlanta Braves
still that? Is that okay?
Braves are still there. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs.
You will catch a couple
of Tomahawks in those chief games that everyone
is like, don't do it. Stop it.
Well, the Braves are going to get a
hog chopped, don't they? We're going to be called
We're going to be the clowns next year.
Don't the Braves still do it?
I think so, yeah.
It is just like, what are any of you people doing out there?
Well, you know, where my daddy did it, so I should get to do it.
What was your high school mascots?
We were the blue bison.
Yes.
I was the Indians.
Oh, really?
What is it now?
Out of business high school?
I think it's abandoned, yeah.
I think it's the Eagles now.
I was about saying, we were the Silesian Eagles.
Okay.
You should have been like
the Salesian Holy Eagles or something
in fucking Catholic school.
Like the Pope sends out the Eagles
to attack people.
Go my minions.
Does you have any special powers?
The Pope?
Well, it depends upon who he asks.
He talks to God.
Yeah, who doesn't?
He's a chatty-cathy though.
Limited teleportation.
Like he has to be able to see it
to be able to help.
He has to be able to help.
No, I can't break into that bank vault.
I am sorry.
Oh, my God.
Imagine the
showed up in the White House uninvited.
That'd be cool.
That was in one of those movies, right?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's a big in X2, I think.
Yes, he almost kills the president.
That's your favorite. That's your favorite movie.
One of my favorite movies for sure.
Was it 25 on the list, right? I believe.
It's creep it up.
It's the best X-Men movie.
It's X-2 is your second favorite and your first favorite is X-Men.
No, no, no, no.
X-2 is much better than X-Men.
Yeah, yeah. They came a long way there.
Oh, interesting.
I feel like I have the opposite reaction, but it's been forever since I've seen them.
Yeah.
Also, the film, Scareer.
I think is above all
those. And don't worry folks, Major League is a nothing movie
so we can just talk about it. I mean, I like all the Cleveland
stuff that we're watching at the beginning. However,
this Randy Newman. This Randy Newman song, who we are
just like, are you trying to put me to sleep? I'm trying to watch.
Shouldn't I be excited to watch the movie? Just because he says Cleveland
repeatedly in it. He belongs in jail.
Cleveland, the river's going to buy.
It's going to point.
And the river. You know what you did?
Get me the graph
that shows like the correlation of
Randy Newman getting popular and the
correlation of us finding lead in the water
supply. I bet it is
a dead on graph. At least
I love L.A., which is an
ironic song is bouncy. It's
a little bit. I love L.A. but it's
better, it's better, but
I'll give it up for the
rest of the river. I'll tell you what
though. Now that you're spelling it out like
this, maybe it is appropriate. Dude, I've been to
the city of Cleveland, zero bounce.
Zero fucking bounce
in that town. To that point, like, I
also do not like the song, but
for it to be like, city of lights, and then
you see a guy, like, with half his
entire body's dirt, and he's
drinking beer and fucking snorting
something out of his nose.
Like, you're like, okay, it's a little
interplay here. The reality of the
situation is it's kind of dirty and, you know,
working class, but like, fucking
Randy Newman's like, the Calhooker
River.
And you're just like, okay, I guess there's some matches.
This is, that song is, like, related to, like, the river, like, lit on fire.
Yeah.
So that's what's about, yeah, yeah.
I, uh, my wife, my wife's mother moved to Cleveland.
So I've gone there a bunch now, uh, for families.
Any bounce updates, too?
That's how much the bounce update.
But this movie's a sacred cow out there.
We were, like, sure.
Uh, we were, we happened to be there by accident on opening day.
Uh, and we just went to, like.
Of be ball?
Of baseball.
Yes.
And it was like, I think we're going for Easter, which they are usually pretty close.
Yeah, it's coming up.
That's also why we're doing this first.
All right, Steve's at the mound. Go ahead.
We just wind up going, like, we're in town.
Oh, cool sports parties get a thing.
Everyone there is dressed like all the waitresses are dressed like Charlie Sheen.
What?
They have the glasses that they're wearing the Vaughn thing.
They have on regular cable, they're playing major league.
It goes through.
It ends.
Guess what's happening.
It's starting again.
What you're talking about playing it on?
cable. So were they rewinding a DVR? No, no. I think it was just an all-day major league.
And like a local Cleveland affiliate. Yeah, or something. Yeah, it was just literally, it had commercials.
It was on cable. It ended. And we're like, I was like, I wonder if they're going to play the second one.
No, it's the first one again. Actually, smart ideas. I prefer that to you're watching the second one, if I can.
Well, because your all-day elf nonsense. Biggest, uh, biggest problem there with part two. And I, well, I think part two is like a funny movie. It's been, again, 15, 20 years to see it. I don't even remember part-
part two, they fucking
replace Wesley with, I believe, Omar
Epps. Yes, they do. And he's still playing
Willie May Hayes. Yes. And it's
like, oh, that's a fucking
step down. It's also been five years
and now everyone's March,
apparently, like I was reading about it last night.
It takes place the next season.
Even though five years have passed and now
Willie Mays Hayes is now younger
and everyone else is much older.
Yeah, that's kind of weird.
But he's a lightning bolt in this movie.
Like he is really unbelievable
Desperate to be a star
A shot in the arm of this movie for sure
I feel like there's some deleted stuff with him
Because there's like this
When we when he gets to camp
It's like where this guy come from
And then later on they're like
We don't know where he came from
But blah blah but there's like a sub story
About him
Yeah
Either like talented Mr. Ripleying his way somewhere
There's like the real Willie Mays Hayes dead in a ditch somewhere
Yeah he's in a fucking box car
In a bag
That's awesome
Why did you pick the name
Willie Mays Hayes?
It was available.
My original name is
Dennis Don Draper.
Well, that's a part of the
because it's an ensemble
because it's about a baseball team.
So you kind of get
this characterization spread thin throughout.
We're mostly focused on Tom Berringer.
But we kind of want to focus on Sheen,
but it doesn't really pan out.
He's definitely taking all the other energy.
Like Snipes is not given that kind of level
because his story doesn't matter as much.
like Sheen's whole like finding out he needs glasses
not pitching right like they really build that up
I do agree like here's one of those movies
where I'm like you could give me a little extra
yeah two hours two hours two hours and ten minutes
I might be I might be thinking this is a genuinely like really good movie
because it's it's exactly a dromedy you know what I mean
it's not it's not quite funny enough to be a comedy
and the only time it gets really broad is when
unfortunately Dennis Hayesberg shows up
and that's just we'll talk about that for a long time
So the beginning is
the owner dies and his showgirl
wife wants to move the team
from Cleveland to Miami
good idea and wants to
and the only way to do that
there's a clause in the contract if
the attendance goes below 800,000
they can have an escape clause
they can leave. Right and this is sort of
I guess loosely based on the woman that inherited
the Rams. The Rams yes
the L.A. Rams who then she moved
to her her hometown of
St. Louis. And when she finally
is off the team, they finally moved it
back to Los Angeles.
Oh, okay. I mean, to me, it was funny
because she, I mean,
it's evil woman syndrome. It's
1989. Oh, yeah. And it's a woman.
So, but she is doing almost
exactly what Bobby,
what's his name from the A's
was doing in Moneyball? Like,
get cheap players to play
like and see if it went, but she's
evil. So she's like, but it's because
I'm doing a producer's scam. Yes. It's
producers money ball they were actually trying to win
but she's an evil woman
she is trying to producers her season
there is also there's a ref
the movie the Rams thing yeah
there was another I don't know if it was
the dude who owned the twins or something
the clause part of this
story was another real life baseball thing
from the 70s where it was another
like if attendance for
three seasons in a row was something
this guy got to do something.
And I think it was maybe something to do with, like, building a new stadium.
I don't really remember the details.
The weird thing about, I mean, she's a fine.
I mean, she's an evil woman, absolutely, with the capital E, capital W in a movie that doesn't have, as that and René Rousseau being stalked.
Yeah, she's a victim.
But he, but you also have, like, it actually, it doesn't make sense after a certain point.
Like, once they start doing well and, like, shouldn't you be like, oh, shit, the money's pouring in?
and also like you've lost your whatever
ability to hit that low threshold
but she's still like I don't care
they're gonna be flying coach
and it's like well no it's already too late
no you should probably move more into the team
maybe they'll win the fucking world series
eventually you should start going with it
yeah you gotta go the other way no but again
you guys
evil woman
this is all about a person
who despises
living in the city of Cleveland
which is relatable for a lot
lot of folks out there.
So she's like,
she's not going to give it up, man,
until the very last game,
she's crossing her fingers.
She is an e-vail woman for sure,
but at the same time,
it's like,
what do you want another guy in here?
I still at least,
because women are evil in real life.
I've seen tons of,
I've dated them.
Yes.
No, keep going.
There are evil women.
I did.
That's all I'm saying.
Did anyone notice,
did anyone look up the trivia
on the Wild Thing edition?
No.
It's on Wikipedia,
so it seems,
real. There's a version of this movie called
the Wild Thing Edition, a cut.
An alternate ending where
I think Charles Seifers, yeah.
I think he goes up to her at the end. He's like, I, you know,
I can't believe you let this happen, blah, blah, blah.
Look, they're winning. And she's like, that actually
was the point. The whole, she's like actually
reveals to be like this huge Cleveland Indian fan.
To motivate them. Yes, to motivate them. And that was
like the twist ending. And like, this is common
this is a common motivation technique. My father
was doing it. And then
like test audience is like, no, she has to be a villain so they
cut that. Well, I mean, it's like, no, Robert Redford's the good guy in the end
of an indecent proposal, too. Like, he's just trying
to get them closer. I'm just trying to motivate your marriage
by plowing your wife.
Oh, my God. It was great, by the way.
Don't know if I mentioned that. I'll pay you one million dollars
to have your wife fuck me while you move
to Miami. Ain't I
a saint? You might
want to get tested, by the way.
See ya. Been around the
world around the world.
Ayah, yeah.
But yeah, so that's like sort of
the setup. And yeah, to
Chris's point, like, I do want
a little more lived in stuff because
first they call James Gammon. The great.
James Gavin. My voice is already
breaking. I'll do your movie. God
damn it. I'll be there.
We're going to take off a piece
of this cardboard cutout
for every game you win.
Now, my contract
stipulates. I need to have great.
a glass to gargle
before I work. I need the good
stuff. Not the, not the easy
sand stuff you're getting on the boardwalk.
Oh, what do you got there?
Y'all take a alopeio
and a gasoline and
put a chains on there too.
Oh, yeah.
You boys have been playing well
so she's getting more naked, but it's
okay because she used to be a showgirl
or something. Do you have those
tacks that they throw to make
tires pop? I just want to
eat a whole bunch of them. It's crazy
that he's not talking through his throat like a cigarette.
I know. But the
first scene with him is he's, I guess he's a
minor league coach and he's
running, he's been coaching the Toledo
mudhens for
35 years.
But he's also running a tire
store and he's like, well I can do
I can rotate your tires for you.
And I'm like, I want a little
bit of that. I just want like maybe
two minutes of him doing
something with tires and being like, well, I
Yes, I will coach to Cleveland, Indian.
Little character things are all over the storm.
Just like, if you gave me a little bit more,
it makes your movie feel more like a move,
like the way, when they can't get the whirlpool to work,
and they have to bring the fucking boat motor in.
I'm like, just show me who got that and how did they get that?
Little shit like that would make it,
because this has total comedy syndrome of like,
it feels just like a bunch of good scenes.
Yes.
It doesn't feel like a movie.
Well, to that point,
The boat thing, how it just appears out of nowhere,
is very much like a Marks Brothers feeling sight gag,
where you would be like,
how did Harpo get that boat motor?
You don't know, they're not going to show you that.
You could do that.
Like, literally, they just, like, open a closet and, like,
oh, he's a boat motor.
Like, in the locker room.
Who took that boat motor?
That was going to be my breakfast.
I was going to put an egg on that boat motor and eat her all up.
I'll go out to the parking lot
and just find myself a Cadillac.
Chew on. All right, fine. Splitsies.
I get the thing that shreds. You get the motor.
It's a melted cheddar all over. That catty lack can eat it up good.
This Lou Brown character is the glue that holds this too.
He absolutely is. Now, and the mustache, by the way, is beyond pure.
Oh, dude, that's great. It's great. This is like my dad level mustache.
This is the mustache my father has. Oh, nice. If this were, not David S. Ward's Major League, if it were, if it were Zach Snipes,
Major League Part 1.
This whole little montage we have here
of Lou getting the players
would be the whole fucking movie
and then we'll play baseball in part 2.
To your point, yes.
I am also glad this movie is an hour and 45 minutes
even though like it's, you know,
oh, I would like a little more here, a little less there.
You could have done something with that 15 minutes.
Sure.
But yes, to your point, yes.
I'm glad we fucking get to it.
Tom Berringer is murdering prostitutes in Mexico.
Pretending masquerading to play baseball.
this woman long dead laying naked next to him.
I'll tell you what, he is,
and maybe we had some method acting on our hands here,
you look at this guy in this scene,
like, Barringer answers the phone,
like, oh, my God, I'm going to vomit.
Oh, my God.
He has Primo hangover.
Like, you feel the hangover coming off the screen?
I mean, that's always, but I mean, he's got that.
He looks gruff.
He always looks annoyed.
Sure.
Barringer's got some strengths here.
That's method actor.
Incredible, incredible performer.
I do believe there would be
something like, well, yes, we do know
where he is, but he's been
questioned in a series of
murders. And on the wall of each
one, the word lynn has been
written in blood. And
we don't quite know. We've been calling them the
leans, the lynn slashing. Yeah.
And we don't know exactly where it's going.
Every red-headed woman in Mexico is now dead.
Yeah, well, I
still need them on the baseball teams
who put them on the phone.
I don't care if there was a copy of
Moby Dick founded all the crimes.
You get him here right now.
He's escalating.
But he thinks it's a prank call.
Yes. Which is great. He's offered to come try out.
And he's like, ooh, that's not. That's not fair to it. Oh, my God, who put you up to this?
Oh, my God, who put you up to this?
You should have released the Yankees, you fucking piece of shit. Yes. Oh, that's right.
So it's Barringer is, uh, platoons the big one. That's the, that's the, that's the, that's, yes.
Which was also a substitute. Yeah, the substitute.
And the sniper series.
Who could forget the Sniper series?
I mean, he's still making it my thing.
There is a law, I once, I never actually started it.
Barack Obama was present when a sniper was made.
100%.
I think Trump was president when a fucking Sniper movie came out.
Oh, I'm sure.
That's the way, that's the Stephen Seagall one, right?
Didn't you eventually do sniper movies?
Well, this, the Bar-I know, I know, is he, that's a franchise.
I'm talking about other-ups.
He did an American Sniper rip-off.
Oh, God.
That's what I'm thinking about.
Yeah, that checks.
The American Sniper franchise, which I remember being kind of disappointing, but I should go back to it.
I had this whole plan. I looked them all up on Wikipedia. I was like, I'm going to, it'll be so stupid. And then I'll write about it in the Big Daddy Dispatch. I'm going to watch all the sniper movies. And then I never watched any of them. But it is one of those things. We are just rotating Berenger out some meat cleaver face. Nobody takes up the hell. Yeah, like last year was like sniper reassessment.
Yes, we're doing a lot of that. Remember, I mean, I think he was used very.
well in Inception.
Yeah.
Let me hit pause real quick.
Because here it is for the VHS trailer game.
Let's,
we'll do,
we'll do Price's Right Rules.
And,
how many sniper movies are there?
Ooh, nice.
Okay.
I'll say six.
He's got six.
There are seven sniper movies.
There are seven sniper movies.
Ten.
Ten, exactly.
10. Exactly.
That's incredible.
I got to give the guy five big points for that.
I think honestly,
they may have made more since the last time I did the count.
The last one sniper grit with which is an acronym.
Is it in space?
G.R. IT. Go global response intelligence team.
Yes, of course.
September 26th, 2003.
Okay.
Oh, Biden in office.
Holy fuck.
Okay.
How many.
star Tom Barron. That, that, it's hard to tell. I think he's out after like two or three. Yeah.
Let's see. Three tops. He's, me, he was out after the first substitute, right? Yes. Beckett. The late
tree Williams comes in in part two. Beckett. Oh, no, Brandon Beckett. Okay. So Thomas Beckett is, uh,
Thomas Beckett is his character. What the fuck. His son, Sergeant Brandon Beckett takes over the
franchise. Of course. Let's go, Brandon. He came, wait, sniper assassin's end. You,
You better believe he comes back in 2020.
Legendary sniper Thomas Beckin and his son, Brandon Beckett, are on the runner from the CIA.
Oh, my God, let's do one last mission.
Oh, my God, let's do one last mission.
We're going to open sniper and sons.
You see, son.
Sniper and son.
You see, son, I've perfected a way of killing any target while sitting down in a desk chair.
So how many of Berringer?
It looks like.
Oh, no, like four or five.
Okay.
More than I thought.
Healthy helpings, but I'm sure like five seconds
at some of his later one.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's Barringer's intro.
Then we get to Sheen, who I do like this fucking delivery.
It's like Ricky Vaughn.
Like, oh, we're going to need you next week
in spring training.
And he's in jail.
And he's like, I don't think I'm going to make it.
It's so funny.
I mean, I think probably my favorite Charlie Sheen performance
might be Ferris Bueller.
This is pretty close to it.
Yeah.
It's pretty much what that dude did after leaving Illinois.
Right. Well, Ferris Bueller was exactly his real life
persona. He's actually being drugged out and doesn't know where he is.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So that's him that we are introduced, yes, to
Dennis Haysbert is Pedro Serrano, who's a Cuban player,
who practices air quotes because this is a podcast, voodoo.
Yeah. Yes, he defected from Cuba for religious freedom
to practice voodoo.
To, uh, Jubo. A.
Jobu.
Hi, Joe Boo.
And, you know, it's supposed to be silly and, you know, whatever.
But like at the same time, the Harris character who's like the Christian on the team.
Chelsea Ross, by the way.
Is that the actress?
The actress name, yeah.
He comes up and stuff.
Yeah, quite a lot.
He's presented as a real buffoon.
Yeah.
And like, he's constantly lecturing Serrano on, you know, the merits of Jesus Christ or whatever.
But then in the plane, when there's a problem, he's just reading Hustler,
magazine out of the open.
Oh, yeah.
Like, this guy's a complete classic Christian.
Classic Christian.
Exactly.
But speaking of class,
this was like the last gasp of,
which we loved in the 70s and 80s,
specifically voodoo black guy jokes.
We love, like, it's just like,
like those John Candy movie,
I'm thinking of what John Candy movie had?
Going Berserk has that all over it.
You're right.
All this like,
weekend at Bernie's.
We get at Bernie's too.
Yeah, that's even later than this.
Yeah.
But it finally goes away,
which it should.
because we're just like that we love that witch doctor horse shit and it's just all these writers that
have no fucking clue like what that religion is or any of that predator two as well predator too
absolutely yes the serpent in the rainbow but that takes a little more seriously that's right yeah but
it was a big comedy trope of just like uh-oh they're gonna bubobo boil me alive or something here it's
a comedy yeah and everyone is broad and dumb yes Chelsea Ross by the way who is uh Harris
who's also kind of most famous
on Mad Men as what you would call it
Connie, Connie. Connard Hill.
Oh, wow. He's kind of like
Lane Smith and soda. You know what I mean?
It's like, you got Lane Smith as like
is solid, is, you know, just, that's neat.
You put soda and you get Chelsea Ross.
I was looking it up because he's looking
old as fuck. And again, I hadn't seen.
Still around. I hadn't seen this movie in a long time
and I was like, what does Harris do?
Oh, Harris is a pitcher in this movie.
So then I looked it up and I was looking up
how old Chelsea Ross was making this movie.
This dude in this movie
who looks like an old man on that pictures man
46 years ago.
Really? 46, fucking 6 years older than we are.
That guy never saw a glass of water.
He didn't throw on the floor.
16 years older than me, but yeah.
I do like the fact that he's...
Dude, you look terrible for 30.
I, you know, okay.
All right.
All right.
But you look fantastic for 40, though.
Right.
So maybe you'll age into it.
Maybe, yeah.
I think, yeah.
I'm on the trajectory.
you're a beautiful man Eric
oh my thank you Christopher
it's amazing that his name is actually
Ed Harris
yeah that is funny
like I just kept I think I'm like
I'm gonna pitch today
Harris is like one of the older guys
that's just been around Corbin
Burnson L.A. Law's
Corbin Bronson L.A. Law
I believe going at the time right
89 I think it was on the air
that's a show that what
just completely the earth swallowed
like what do you mean? It's not
never in syndication
never comes back I don't even know if it's
streaming you know what i mean what is there any shows like that law order that's the only one
but it's i was trying to get to that point yeah that is the only show that you're right you're right
though there's all the doctor shows like there's like there's like homicide life on the street
there's tons of shows that are just gone that's a show that's famously unstreamable
homicide yeah that is nice and because it's also it's david's i mean come on it's god
i think new york undercover is another one isn't that it's a cop show that's just completely
vanished from... I feel like they
that finally got... That's some place.
One of the Fox streamers got it or something. But L.A.
law was huge. Yeah, it was humongous.
But yeah, and Corbyn,
wait, he's that Dr. Giggles. He's...
The dentist. He's the dentist. He's the dentist.
Apologies. Five big points.
There it is.
He's also hilariously annoyed
by George Costanza on that
Seinfeld. Dude, fucking Corbin
Burnson. Oh, right. And George went
like commiserating while the Tonight
shows at commercial. Just like,
that guy backstage, kind of like
a weird, wild-looking bald guy.
Yeah, that was the guy I was talking.
And he keeps wanting to move the show out of somewhere else.
He wants to move cheers out of the bar.
And L.A. law, he's telling a story about like, so this one, I'm dating this girl all the time.
She asked me to feed her cat while she's out of town.
Oh, I forget about the cat.
Two, three, four days.
He kills the cat.
Corbyn Brinson relaying the story to Jay Leno on the show is so funny.
And then he just got to fucking Jason Alexander stewing in the audience.
A real nut.
him and George went both call him a real nut which is funny anyway yeah so he's
Roger Dorn I believe yes he's one of the only like holdovers from this Cleveland team he's
good or he's what do they say he's terrible but expensive because he's like a
he's a free he got paid and then like just kind of stop giving a shit yes right right right
which does happen in sports he's yep he's working his way towards his retirement he's way
more concerned with like the portfolio and he's seen at one point reading Forbes's
magazine. I mean, he's doing what honestly
athletes have to be
smart about. It's like, what is the next part of
my career after, you know,
I just naturally retire or have a
knee blows out. It is a good,
I mean, like, in terms of like a movie,
I mean, it is broad. And again, there is
literal voodoo in it. But like, I think
it's a fun world to watch
like a team come together and
like, you know, all the different guys
in the team, this guy believes this about the sport.
This guy believes that about the sport. It's
fun to look at that stuff. And also, it's very
easy. Thankfully, baseball
is like the one sport where like, I believe
almost anyone is a baseball player. You know what I mean?
Like, yeah. It's, it's, it's, right, because
that tubelard, Babe Ruth.
Is that what you're good? I mean, tiny guys, tall
guys, fat guys, skinny guys.
Oh yeah. I had the first, it's amazing
you say that. I had the first
time in my life where I didn't
believe someone was a baseball player in a
movie just the other day. Really? Was it the rookie?
The little kid? It was not the rookie. I wish.
It does have any baseball on it.
but it was
I meant rookie of the year
oh okay oh
the rookies another Charlie Sheet movie
we are doing soon
but the rookie is also that Bruce Willis
movie where he
right isn't there a rookie movie
the kid
oh the kid that's what I'm thinking
you're Disney's the
Dennis Quaid
oh yes that's what I'm thinking
Dennis Quaid
Dennis Quaid is in one day
might be called the rookie
that's actually my apologize
oh yes he's like an older guy
that's going to be paying this
okay Chris
I'm apologize who do you not
fine convincing. Michael O'Keefe
is in a How Ashby movie called The Slugger's Wife.
Yeah. And he's just, it's, it's not there.
Like none of the physicality there. And I know I actually
kind of like Michael O'Kee. So I wasn't like, this guy's gonna fucking blow it.
But it's just not there. It's about baseball. It is about baseball. But does he
hit his wife? No. I thought maybe that would be like, maybe that's what they were talking about.
No, no. The sluggers. Danny Noon from Caddyshack. Oh, yeah. I'd have a hard time
believing that guy's a baseball player. He just doesn't
put in the, I mean, it's a bad movie period,
but like, especially back then you, it's
like, oh, it's a young guy, put him in a uniform.
Yeah, right. And he's got the fit of it. He just
doesn't put any work. But that's the thing is, like you do something with
basketball, it's like, you need everyone to be six, fucking
10 or else. I'm not believing a fucking second.
Exactly. That's why, that's where all
those lifetime movies falter because they always
have the little tiny guy on the
basketball team. It just put them on the soccer team.
That is, it's a baseball team. This is contextualizing
everything for everyone. Baseball
for normal people, basketball.
all for freaks.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
You need to be a different
kind of human being
to play basketball.
Which is crazy, right?
Super tall monster kind of people.
Like,
they weren't like devising
the sport to be played by monsters.
It just is now.
It just sort of happened.
Oh, Ben,
you know, if you're seven feet
or above,
you're having a really good time playing.
They know what they should do?
You're closer to the fucking rim.
Raise the goddamn baskets.
Fuck this shit.
Everyone's six, nine or seven,
seven and five eighths or whatever the fuck.
Nine, 20 feet tall,
whatever these balls?
onions are. Raise that basket
30 feet in the air, my friends.
Dunking should not be a thing in desk. It should not be a thing.
No one should be able to physically dunking. You know what? They're showing
off is a thing. You know what? And we hate that in America. We do not like the showing
off. Well, I don't like America, crazy.
So we get down to spring training and everybody shows up. I will say a thing here.
What definitely helps this movie is this R rating for language? Yes. Oh, it's all over it.
I love it. The profanity peppered throughout this movie really
works well because you don't expect it really
in a lot of sports movies. And like when
Sheen pulls up, he's like, he's been
hitchhiking, some biker like drops
them off. And somebody has a really good
I don't know if it's gammon or whoever's like, who the
fuck is that? And I was like, whoa.
Yes. Bring me more of that sharp profanity. Oh my God.
I love Tom Barringer showing up here
because he's got like a blazer on with a
Ticante beer t-shirt.
Oh, yeah. Well, he's got, he's wearing
this fucking Don Johnson Miami Vice
jacket, this whole movie. And it's like,
dude, that ain't you.
But as was the style at the time.
People were trying, trying to emulate all the job.
Lou, I had to kill somebody at the airport and take their identity.
I'm kind of a wanted man in Mexico.
And if you could just put me on this team and give me a different name, that would be great.
And, yeah, I won't be playing in Detroit.
That's not going to happen.
I will also stay out of Milwaukee.
Oh, Colorado.
Yeah, you don't want me out with the Rock.
that's not going to happen. Apparently this is all filmed in Milwaukee pretty much.
Yeah. The Brewer's Stadium doubled for. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah. Um, so what's weird
about, and I don't know, like, I would assume, because again, it's like she's shortchanging the team and whatever.
So I guess like the accommodations are supposed to be shitty, but this like, fold metal jacket bunk beds.
Is that real? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. There's, and maybe it was once, but there's no way.
not now. Now there's just too much money in the sport. Everybody
just makes it, you know, corrupt.
They have to be comfortable. At this point, they would be very into that point.
I mean, yeah, but like, I don't know, there was money in the sport in 89.
Well, actually, it's funny, when Tom Berringer goes to the study party and he's like,
I make the lead minimum, I looked it up. Yeah. It's 68 grand, which was about a buck 75.
Okay. In inflation. Not bad at all. Which is why I don't know why he's living in a flop house
with Charlie Sheen at the end of this movie.
Well, that's what, yeah, I was like, who's living with who
in that? Yes. Is Tom Berger
Ruman with Charlie Schumer? Like, give me
another 10 minutes. I want to know what that
living situation is. Because, yeah, like, it's important
because at the end of the movie, he has sex with somebody, which will talk
about. And like, Tom Berger's like, whoa, what the fuck
happened? What are you doing at his house, Tom Berger?
I'm like, oh, I guess they're roommates.
Right, yeah, you find out then.
Yeah, well, yeah, the end of the movie that they've been living together.
To sign a lease.
or any kind of apartment contract, I'd have to use
my real name. As I said,
I am wanted by several federal
organizations at the moment.
Tom Riple, no, Donner, no.
Richard Ripley. There we go. That's the one.
R.R. I like that.
Dick Ripley. You can go on me Dick Rip.
Yeah, hell yeah. I'm going to rip your dick off.
Oh, that's all. Dick Rip.
That's what the boys with the Country Cup do by that?
I would be at Country Club. I don't know.
You know that guy who had a name like that, Rip Torn, right?
Rip Torn.
What a, what a, what a,
Fun name. Great thing. That's this.
Perfect for him too. Yeah. Sure. Just
beautifully sums up. Riptorn cage match.
Riptorn James Gammon. Who's getting out of that? Oh, boy. Oh, that was, that was
how many drugs do each of them get beforehand?
Oh, no. There's no drugs. It's just fucking warm beer and whiskey.
That's all that's going on there. Is that what was?
You think you're better than you think you're better than me?
I'll eat your goddamn head off your neck.
I'll eat your penis's head.
I choked Norman mad for 15 minutes.
You think I'm going to go against you.
Bring it, old man, even though you're my age.
Oh, just try to bite my cock old timer.
You come on here.
We're both dead.
Oh, that's it.
I'm going to crab walk over to your cock and bite it.
Yeah, that's right.
We're both dead.
It's a ghost fight.
It's a ghost fight, but I still be chewing razor blades.
Bring it to your big old dick.
Wow, what a fucking
psycho.
Tricks on you, my
dick is Razor Blaze. At least
in my career, I was never ejaculated
on by an elephant.
Fair point.
Let's go to hell together, holding
hands.
And they did.
It's a beautiful story.
Happily ever after.
Two hearts are better than
one. So, whatever,
we get some locker room, machismo.
here Corbyn Brinson's given Charlie
Sheen some shit about his bad
haircut. Which is a bad hair. We gotta be
careful. It's a real bad haircut. Oh, it's terrible.
But it works for him. At the time
and stuff. Yeah, you know, a mullet with a
fun shave. It's something different, you know.
It's style. It earns him the nickname.
The source of, you know,
a sea of Halloween costumes.
Oh, I think so? Yeah. Oh, I've seen people go as wild.
You have? Absolutely. Where do you live?
1990?
I didn't know that you had
There was a time limit
Where do you live?
1992
When did the sequel come out?
I don't know.
Way later.
So that makes sense.
They took their time with that one.
Oh, no.
I thought he was talking about the third one,
which was quite after that second movie.
I found out today that there was a third one of these.
And the fact that bacula's in it.
Bacula, by the way,
and rip off of this movie,
a movie that my brother called me the other day about is like,
why do we like this as kids?
It's a great question.
Necessary roughness.
Yes.
You know what's funny is I looked up this movie on on HBO Max or Max or whatever the fuck we're calling it.
It's just Max.
It's a max for you guys.
It's cleaner.
Yeah.
You look this movie up and then under it.
Yep.
Because the logo of this is the baseball with the Mohawk, which is like what?
That's not even wild thing.
I guess that's supposed to be an Indian.
Yes.
Yeah.
Native thing.
Like, God.
It's part of the movie, folks.
It's not me.
And then underneath that, they had
Necessary Roughness as Auto came up.
And that's a fun loving football with horns.
It's a football with horns, sunglasses, and a cool mustache.
He's having a great time.
Two balls, having a ball.
Now, Necessary Roughness, Sinbad in that movie?
I've definitely seen it.
It's been ages.
Sinbad is in that movie.
Rob Schneider is in that movie.
Is Ted McGinley in that?
Probably.
Kathy Ireland is in that film.
I think Zengief is in that movie.
More than likely, yeah.
Did you say Tom Schneider?
Football, save yourself.
What the fuck?
Who did you say?
Rob Schneider, I said.
Rob Schneider.
That makes sense.
Ted McKinley is in...
The third of these.
Yeah, he's also in this major league
back to the minor.
I think he isn't necessarily rough it.
But like, I mean, yes,
they were trying to copy this.
I think it's all trying to do slap shot.
Yes.
Yeah, that's true.
That's actually a great movie.
That's a good point.
That's the blue.
print, right? And it's such a fucking good movie.
It's a better movie than this.
Paul fucking Newman, by the way.
That's how that shit works. What a looker.
But that's what's great. It's Paul Newman,
Michael Antkeen,
Sheriff Harry S. Truman from Twin Peaks,
and then no one.
Yes. It's all players.
So many of those dudes were like just hockey players.
Get over. Get over here,
Paul Newman. I'm going to eat your puck.
Also, you get like at least five
playthrus of it's all right.
And it's going strong.
We're going to get right back to where we're going from.
Yeah, there we go.
Nothing's cool.
Nothing.
Something.
Yeah.
You get like five or six play-thrus.
It's very nice.
Yeah.
Slapshot is a five-star motion picture.
Absolutely.
And it's the same like scuzzy beer swilly.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So long story short, they suck.
Wouldn't you believe it?
So like everybody's got their problems.
Charlie Sheen has good velocity.
It doesn't have control.
Tom Barringer's knees.
are shot. Wesley Snipes
can't hit, he can't hit. He can
run really fast. That's his whole thing. I love
this is, it's a very wacky, and again, this is so weird
though, now that I'm thinking of it, this is also kind of a bizarre
Marx Brothers moment when the security guards come in the middle
of the night, they're all sleeping. This is when I was like, somebody's
going to get fucking beaten with a sock full soap. And like, the security
guards come in and they're like, oh, here's the guy that
nobody knows why he's here, it didn't get invited or whatever. And they
pick his bed up. He's on the top bunk
of the bunk. Wesley Snipes. They pick
him up and carry him out
and then like he wakes up outside sleeping
and he's like, oh shit, did I get caught already?
That's such a Marx Brothers joke.
It's very funny. It is. And it's again, like
where is this guy coming from? What happened to
the real Williamese? I'm telling you, dude,
box cars sack death.
But yeah, he like
then wakes up and like beats everybody
in a race. He's so fast. Yeah, but
he can't. In his full pajamas.
They're already running and he beats.
them all. Well, this is like his, I mean, like,
he had been in like, what he,
the other, the football movie with
Wildcats, the, oh, yeah, with Goldie Hawn, yeah.
That was, like, kind of his first movie, like, he's been in TV.
Like, Wesley was just not around this much.
And, like, he's so young, too.
Like, the first shot of him in this movie, I was like,
my goodness, he's like a little baby.
Is it his next movie King of New York?
It might be. Oh, that's, stay tuned for the WLM fair.
Hell yeah.
I love that movie, but he's, but he's so
hungry in this. You could just see, like,
he loves to be on camera he's a firecracker and you see he can't look away from him he's
he really holds the screen it's so great uh yes it's like your classic like everybody's got their
problems and like boy does this uh skipper have his tried and true methods of like getting
you out of bad habits right it's like all right wesley snipes like uh every time you hit a ball
straight up and not a just a real like bouncer through the infield that's 20 pushups so it's like
that kind of shit. He does
do that to somebody else. What's the, what's
another one that he does? If you do something, I'm making
it. It's like 20 sit-ups or something.
Yes. I think it's to Corbin-Burnson.
Yeah, Dorn. Yeah. If you know, he won't
like, dive
his body for the play. Yes, exactly.
Tom Barrencher says, if he doesn't
do it, he'll cut his nuts off and make him swallow it.
So that is another threat. That's later in the film. And that is
fucking dead serious. No doubt
about it. He's like, I'm going to come
to your house on a Sunday afternoon. I'm
to kiss your wife on the cheek and threaten your life.
I swear to God.
You know what Sundays are?
It's the day I eat someone's testicles.
It might just be yours.
Call ball chomp Sundays.
I've done it before.
I've done it to my own father.
I thought of everything he knows.
Meanwhile, where are those goddamn quarters?
I'm getting hungry.
Yum, I love to eat quarters.
Most baseball skippers prefer some bumble gum or
sunflower seeds. I'm just eating quarters and screws.
That's what I have after my rock soup.
It's lunchtime. Time for me to go to the scrapyard and dig in for my meal.
Yeah, that's right. I'm actually technically a Gauron from the legend of Zilder franchise.
I eat rocks every day.
Well, that explains why my teeth are bloody all the time.
Well, it would appear to me that at this spring training,
facility the pitcher's mound is stacked a little too high with dirt so let me get into Pac-Man mode
and gnom, gnom, gnom, gnom, gom. Oh, it gives me my beautiful voice. I'm going to shit a brick
later. Oh, man. Tom Boyd's like, dude, relax. You guys got to go out. You're going to blow your
voice out there, champ. You're going to sing backup anyway. You don't got to push it. Um, yeah, but it's, it's, I do
love Chelsea Ross
He's great in this movie actually
He's so fucking funny
I love him giving Charlie Sheen some tips
As like how
A Vagicil
Yeah he's like what the hell's all over your chest
And it's like
Vaseline here
Vagicil on my side
And he's like sometimes I put a little
Something under my nose
That makes my nose run
Halapeno
Yeah a little jalapeno under my nose
Like get some snot rubbing on the fault
Charlie Shee
This is where Charlie Sheen shines
And we said this in
Or we will say this
I don't know when it comes out
Which comes out first
But we say this also in the wall
Wall Street, WLM, but he is so much better at comedy.
And it is just these, like, flat kind of deliveries where, like, he says that about
rubbing snot on the ball. And he's just like, you rub snot on the ball?
Like, it's just a really good flat throwback. It's really funny.
Yeah, but meanwhile, yeah, it's just the dead. And Dennis Hayesbert's great. And I mean,
like, he's cut out of marble in this movie. And like, it makes sense you to be the big
power hitter, which he is so good. His problem is, by the way, he can't hit breaking balls.
You can only hit fast balls. Oh, that's right.
but he's got
and it's just the voodoo stuff man
every well I mean what else is he's also
listen this this might be the best thing he's known for
right because 24 as the president
which is
you know politically vado commercials
which is also
all state you're in good hand
insurance is a scam folks
and then also the war on being
supportive of the war on terror
we're having far from heaven
is probably a good one yes
yeah that's right
heat yeah he's he was he's a top two
build on that? He's the driver
of the big, I mean, the big thing. He comes
to see the guy at the diner when they keep on
coming back. I need to rewatch. He's a driver guy.
Yeah, I mean, he's
been in good stuff. And he is good in this. It's just every
time we're in the locker room, you're like, all right. Oh, yeah,
exactly. Can we just that right?
When he's just, like, part of the gang, like,
trying to get hits or like, oh, why that's
so crazy. Like, I'm like, yeah, that's
great. It's a fucking Dennis Hayesbrot. That it's like, let me
just feed my God, Joboo.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm laughing already. I'm sorry.
cigars and rum you know
we're afraid to get
cut is the idea so the whole thing is like
if you are cut you're going to know
because you're going to open your locker
and there's going to be a little red tag there
and wouldn't you know it
Vaughn opens his locker Charlie Sheen
there's a red tag
and he's like all downtrodden
whatever goes in to Gannon's office
and really just lets this dude have it
fuck it's really funny
I don't know what to tell you but I didn't cut you
I think someone's having fun with you
well oh okay uh nice seeing you and i will be going
he goes out there and tackles dorn and starts fighting
great fucking locker room fight man really he like jumps
on him to tackle him i like this i'm much more into sheen
versus dorn as a central thing than this fucking bearer trousseau stuff
i'm much more to these kind of rivalries these are interesting it's almost like pick
one or the other and just lean in to one or the other yeah totally
So it's like there's a really great, hey man, you know, Berringer tells him like, you know, calm down.
You got to pack for Cleveland.
And he opens his locker again.
I notice it's like, this is spring training.
It's just a few weeks.
Sheen's character, the pornography on the locker door?
Like, I couldn't even go a month without pornography.
A is just going out of prison.
So A number one.
That's true.
Also, you're showing your dick to all your fellas here.
You might want to get a semi-chub going.
Sure, absolutely.
You don't want to be.
Get some girth.
Yeah, I get you.
Just a little girth.
It's a girth enhanced.
A touch of fluff.
A self-fluff.
A touch of fluff.
We don't love Joboo doing it for us.
So we get to Cleveland.
There's a nice moment, which is, I think this one little scene sort of explores the two-sidedness of this movie.
Because it's a really nice moment of Tom Berringer.
You know, he's the old-timer.
He doesn't have many games left.
You know, his knees are shot out, whatever.
And he's going to, he goes around.
He imagines hitting a home run.
He's running all the bases.
And it's like, it is a sports movie, too, which is the other thing.
It tries to juggle this, like, romantic drama stuff, which makes it feel like a Kevin Costner sports movie.
But then it is a big, you know, S sports movie, you know.
And so he's doing that.
It's really nice.
And then it's like Charlie Sheen and Wesley Stein's like making fun of him busting his balls.
And so Beringer does the nice thing there.
He takes him out nice, fancy dinner at this Cleveland restaurant.
It's probably like the nicest restaurant in the city, maybe.
You boys know how to dine and dash, don't you?
You know, Willie Mays Hayes, hey, you're pretty fast on the field.
You're pretty fast at running out of the restaurant.
So you go to the bathroom first, and then I will join you then afterwards.
So you run so that we can sneak out.
Yeah, you cars a big scene, and then we sneak out quietly.
This will work out perfectly with you being black and us being white.
You being the fault.
I mean, it'll work out perfect.
There is, at this, funny joke is Charlie Sheen's always wearing biker games.
he was wearing a biker jacket and like
they put a tie around his neck. Did you
catch what's going on with this jacket?
It is a like sleeveless
like cut off sleeves leather jacket.
That's his whole thing. Everything is cut
off sleeves. Eventually we get an
Amex commercial they star in. They're wearing
tuxedos. That's cut off sleeves.
This is wild thing. He's wild thing.
You can't get him down.
And from across the
dining hall there, he just
caesered. The kill bill
this is Renee Rousseau
is Lynn Weston I believe is this character
This is like one of her first roles too
Really?
This is a breakout for her too
Uh yeah this is 89
She's in
She doesn't come into lethal weapon until
The third one right
And that's firmly rooted in the early 90s
93 maybe
And then get shorty's the mid-90s
Like yeah
Get Shorty I think is closer than 90s
That's the right you're right yeah yeah yeah
So, yeah, this is, I mean, very young looking for her.
I mean, you know, she is just getting stocked by a ballplayer this whole movie.
But I think she's good in what she has to do.
Sure, yeah.
She's good in what she has to do.
But, like, this is crazy, right?
Because he's just like, I'm going to, oh, my God, oh, my God, I'm going to call the restaurant.
And I'm going to go.
Oh, fake phone call.
It's unbelievable how quickly it snaps on.
Like, it's not even has to consider.
He's just like, immediately like, boom.
Okay.
Go to the phone and harass her a little bit.
Okay.
Just a little bit.
What I'm going to do.
Wait, wait.
Okay, so I'm going to call the restaurant I'm in from the restaurant.
I'm in.
Wait, that's a busy signal.
Damn.
Do you have two lines?
Could you put one in for me?
Sir, are you trying some sort of stalkerly old romance scam here?
Called romance, sir.
No, I'm actually Ed Froman, the sausage king of Cleveland, actually.
Cleveland sausage, get the fuck out of here.
We've been talking a lot about Mrs. Doughtfire lady.
This could have been a, this could have been a Mrs. Douthfire situation.
just to hear what she's saying.
Go over there and then run out
and take off the prosthetics and go back.
Oh, hello, dear.
I'm an old-timey Scottish nanny.
He doesn't put any makeup on.
Death is on the way, dear.
But she goes, oh, does René Russo, whatever,
Lynn is like, you have a phone call, blah, blah, blah.
So she goes up to the front desk,
goes, hello, Lynn, terrified yet.
Dude, what he does is,
fucking creepy as hell. You're not far off because she's on the phone like, oh, you know,
how'd you know if he was here, whatever? And he's like, you look pretty good at that black
dress with the red sash. And she's like, oh, fuck. And this is happening again. Her, there, it's his
ex-wife, like, full of ex-girlfriend. Yeah. But I did say, I think, at least my notes,
oh, my wife saw a date down there. Oh, really? But maybe that's him projecting the future.
That is, I believe so. Because they, it, there's no divorce talk or something.
No. But when we find out is he was a serial cheater. Not like he cheated on her once.
Like, oh shit, you know, I was drunk with the guys and blah. But he's just like, yeah, but I, you can't be with anybody else.
I'll kill you. Oh, you see that guy? Is that the guy you're with? Is that, oh, it's happening. It's a, er, you know, both athletes, maybe it's better if we have an open relationship. Yeah, that means I get to fuck anyone and you stay home, right?
If that's that true
That wasn't my fault
You weren't taking yourself up on our offer
I just wanted to hear one thing
I don't know if you guys caught it
And I just didn't hear it
What was her athlete thing
She was a swimmer
A swimmer okay
Olympic level swimmer
Do we get anything beyond her mentioning that?
She was an alternate in the 1980 Olympics
It's mentioned at the
The dinner party that he crashed
The dinner party
Okay because I was like
I was dying for Renee Rousseau to have anything outside of him and Tom.
Right.
She should like toss a javelin on the field.
Just have her go and like she's pissed off at Berringer and her fucking fiance and have her go swim for a little bit.
And like show her like she gets back into these things.
Like what attracted to the, because as far as I am seeing it, there was nothing that attracts these two other than I guess Tom Berger's supposed to be sexy.
Hot fucking.
Yes.
Well, she also.
She also loves books specifically.
Moby Dick, which is the king of books.
That's the number one book. She's like, you never
read Moby Dick. I like, I get
it, like, but if this guy doesn't really
read, you want to start a little slower. You want to be like,
hey man, how about Catcher in the Rye? Give that one a shot.
Oh my God, I'm going to kill the president.
Great book. Great
fucking book, I got to tell you.
Opened up a lot of things inside of me. By the way,
I'm taking a 230 bus to Washington, D.C.
It led me to some great, great pickups.
this thing called the Turner Diaries.
It's just a hell of a read.
That's a page Turner.
Like, you know, that?
Maybe a William Faulkner book, like, a little slim guys.
I mean, Steve, you're mentioning like, you know, literature.
Yeah, sure.
Get this guy at John Grisham.
Get there something from a fucking Hudson News.
He's a baseball player.
He's not going to be reading that.
Stephen King.
Come on now.
And he eventually reads Moby Dick in the movie.
It's the comic book version because, yeah, he's dumb.
All right?
They're all, I mean, it's funny
because they're eventually all reading them.
Like, there's a crime and punishment one that
gets flung around. I thought
that was pretty funny.
Because it's Sheenpro, we got to, I'm going to try to, you know,
this is a movie that doesn't necessarily star Charlie Sheen
here, as I want to mention some stuff.
He has a really good delivery
in this scene. When Barringer spies
that she's with a dude or whatever, he goes,
yeah, you want me to drag him out of here? Kick the shit
out of him? Like,
not even, like, in earnest, like,
You're my teammate.
You want me to kick the shit out of this guy in the street?
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate that, but that's my job.
He's fantastic a comedy.
Both hot shot movies are great.
Oh, my God.
But so he's, like, with Renee Russo, Berringer's just like,
I'm not leaving until you give me your phone number.
Give me your phone number right now if you want to live.
I will make a big scene and ruin your big fanci date.
She's like, okay, 555.
Help.
555 help.
Oh, my God.
she gave her wrong number. Oh, my God, you gave her wrong number. I'm going to kill her. I'm going to kill her.
But isn't that enough, dude? Like you, because later on he calls it's like, whatever, like, you know, Bob's repo services or whatever the horse shit he gets. Yeah. Isn't that like, oh, man, I guess she really was terrified at that moment. It needed to give me a better finder. Yeah. I'm sorry, Steve, but you know what? You know what losers do? They take no for an answer. That's true. That's what they do. They don't, you know, persistence means just edgic, like, I'm sorry. He literally.
foreigners her in a scene. This drives
me insane. I forget now, did
he used to play for the Indians? Why
does she live in Cleveland? It's
the second stint in Cleveland for some reason.
Yes. Oh, that happens with baseball.
That's that old. It happens with librarians.
They say at some point
that they had had him for like four years ago or
something like that. Yeah, it's
towards the end of my librarian career.
I'm going to go back to where it all started.
I want to finish my career as a Cleveland
just one more season
at the Cleveland Public Library.
I was doing AAA Library before
this. Oh yeah, that's a rough
gig. With the minors, that's like the book fair
they bring to the first grade.
I left the Scholastic Book Fair?
Hell yeah. I left as a general manager.
I'm coming back as a general manager.
So yeah, we have
it's game day, game one.
We're all excited. This is where we get
a little Dennis
Hayesbert doing a little
bit of whatever there. He's lighting
some stuff. Chelsea
Ross tried to, calls him
a savage, which is fucking
that really rings you here. It's really something.
Uh-huh. Great. So he,
that word should be nowhere near this movie specifically
with what team we're playing for
and everything else we're doing. It's better
believe it. It should just be the team name.
I'm sure that they were.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's what my daddy
called it. And his daddy
before him. It is interesting.
when you go around Cleveland
because there will be like
it's it's like either
oh are you wearing like the old shirt
people do that because they like that
exactly you see that in Washington D.C.
Yes it's like oh is it
is it because you just haven't gotten around
to buying the new shirt yet no no no no no
they're buying up all the old stuff
buying it bulk dude wearing that shit till it's just
fucking tatters on you.
Yeah they're making a point
it's about heritage.
That's right tradition of course
that's right. Oh it's all fucking
abhorrent. So Chelsea Ross, yes, calls him Savage, decides
he says to the skipper, he's like, mind if we
do a little prayer to the Lord Almighty Jesus Christ
to watch over this game today? You can try it, but any time I see
his name, I, uh, something flies out of my mouth. I don't need
that I don't need that shit. I taste ash. I do like
that he just walks away. Funny enough, Dorn leaves too. He's like,
fuck this. Out of there. They set off the
the smoke alarm, which is kind of funny. His prayer is literally
rained out. I kind of like that.
So we get on the field and here he is, man.
Still alive to this day, we found
out, Bob Euker. Wow.
Unbelievable. Still rocking and rolling
on Mr. Belvedere at this point,
which is one of the weirdest things
of all the time. A hundred
and some odd episodes, Bob Euker
on Mr. Belvedere. He was the dad
and I guess because
I think this was the week that he sat on his balls
he was able to shoot this movie. Is that how that works?
That's right. Mr. Wilberdeer sat on his
balls and here I am.
Had a free week to come shoot some fun stuff for the movie Major League.
That's what they told the public, but I ate a nimble out of too hard.
They don't pop easy.
It takes a bit.
That Mr. Belvedere's got balls of steel.
Trust me.
I had to know on it.
But Yucre is very funny.
He's always funny in whatever he appears in.
It makes sense that they did at the Brewers' Stadium because he was the announcement.
That's right.
I think because he was a player too.
Back in the day, yeah. I do love this
gag right at the start. They're calling it
Die Hard's night and it's whoever was alive
at the time that Cleveland last won the pennant.
You get like a discount or whatever. That is so funny.
Like 1947 or something. We will sacrifice
a child in your honor. Right on this field. I love the
gag of youker just sucking back the Jack Daniels. Just
any which way he can, just a little bit of it.
He does the great, I don't know if it's right here,
but somewhere in this movie, he does the,
and apparently there's a Bob Euker Improv,
he does a little, like whiskey on his finger
and puts it behind his ears like it's Cologne.
Fuck, that's funny.
I mean, this is, imagine this, this is that you get to do this for a living.
This pays for your house and your hamburger meat.
It's fucking getting drunk and talking about baseball all day.
I mean, honestly, well, we got lucky to.
We're very lucky. That's exactly right.
His hamburger budget was out of control.
for a while. You know that. After my taxes, I got to look at my hamburgers. I got to look at it. I got to look at it. I got to look at it. Save all those receipts, dude. That's a business expense. I have to separate organic and normal. You know, it's always the thing there. Yeah, the IRS doesn't let you deduct plant-based hamburgers, but the real deal, that's a deduction. The impossible shit. That's all you. Well, actually, you'll get like an energy efficiency credit.
Oh, that's true. It sort of balances that.
Well, I don't know about impossible burgers.
Popeye, could I eat those?
Sir, this is a ground turkey.
You're paying for this.
Stop bullshiting me, please.
That's the one thing you can't write off.
Oh, wow. Elk burger. That sounds fun.
That's on your town.
Well, they ordered me because they didn't think a man could eat that many hamburgers in here.
It turns out that I could.
Yeah, they said, the IRS came up and said, prove it.
They had all these burgers.
And then you just ate them off.
We did not ask him to do this, but he did.
he showed us all these pictures of his
what he called his burger shits
that's a great that's your receipt
you take a photo of the toilet every morning
I'd love to send a photo of my own
shit to the people of the IRS
absolutely definitely you should start
taking this get a look at this asshole
you get artistic with that
like change the lighting
get some Dutch angles right yeah
just don't edit it in Photoshop though
they'll find that out
don't get you so yeah they suck shit
they lose 9-0.
This Berringer calls up
and it's like some fucking sheet metal factory
or something tries to call Renee Rousseau.
Well, that sounds delicious. Hold on.
Where were they? Do they deliver?
Give me that phone number again. You threw it away.
I get those white walls extra crispy.
But this is he tracks her down at work, which...
Oh, my God.
I don't know how we find her here.
Wesley Stipes, he's reading Moby Dick as a comic book.
And Wesley Stimes's like, you know what you should do?
And, I mean, it's bad advice.
It's just like, you should go to her job and then follow her home.
And then now, now you know where she lives.
Now you know where he lives.
Wake up, Tom Berringer.
And then he says, like, isn't that kind of juvenile?
And Wesley Snipes has this great delivery of like, yeah.
Yeah.
I know who you are.
Yes.
You're going to do something like this.
But he can't hold back, though, dude.
He doesn't.
He tells him specifically just wait in the car and then follow her home.
He goes into the library and he's like,
Why the fuck did you give me a fake number?
Why did you give me a fake number?
What a piece of shit.
I mean, I'd be like, security is here.
I told you, I knew he was going to come.
It's that guy.
But then he does follow her home and she's got the read, the license plate, which is something.
It's a vanity plate that says read.
Oh, read.
Yeah, like you read a book.
Oh, oh, R-A-D.
Okay, God.
Yeah, what did you think I meant?
Like a brass instrument?
Yes, but I thought maybe the guy's name was Reed or something.
Oh, no.
Like, like, like, she's a.
she's a book one she's like you know you never you the funny thing about
Renee Russo like you just need to stand your ground don't go around with like you never
read books I just know you fucked everything that moved we learn right here she's like I caught
you banging a stewardess yes like and even he even says like well I was defending
your honor because she said she said she had a better body than you I was gonna prove her and
like man that's that's low it's a fun
A funny joke is Renee Russo, like, you know she didn't have a better body than me.
Like that kind of. Right. And there's also like a line, I don't know if it's there or later that it's like the, oh, we got, he got slapped with like a paternity suit. And it's just like, well, that was just a hoax. She just wanted money. Yeah, but you fucked her. Yeah. You still slept with. Yeah. I mean, that's a thing. But I didn't impregnator. I think Barrona works better as a ball player. Like if for a line like that, specifically the like, well, I had to defend.
and your honor. He has to be a little bit more boyish.
Yes. He has to be like boyishly handsome to get away with this shit. He's a long way from
that at this point. He looks rugged as shit. Focus on playing with baseballs, not your own balls.
Exactly. That's right. Good advice for all the boys out there. That's what my dad told me when he dropped
me off at college. Think with this head, not that head. But the whole and her whole problem,
I mean, it's, she's always flirting with him a little bit. Oh, sure. Get out of here. You. And it's
like, no. Oh, my God. We weren't good for each other.
because we were fucking so good.
We were like fucking great, weren't we?
But I can't be with you.
I don't like you.
Well, I mean, it's like, as she says later, right?
You know, when they do, they get down to shock on the spoiler alert.
Like, she says, wow, it's kind of a weird, well, we might as well do this.
It's the only thing that we're really good at together.
I was like, yep, doesn't sound like a great relationship at all.
Yeah, you and Tommy might not be, you know, right for each other.
Let's just say that.
Yeah, the second one is he goes, he does follow her back to this dude's house.
and like it's it is a snooty party and like
no one is impressed that this guy plays professional
baseball I think this is I would argue the wives
like the way both the wives are like how
but the one lady it's like you think it's like a one way ticket
to Splash Town and then he says what his salary is
I make the league minimum 68 or whatever
he just says league minimum and it's just a desert
instantly it's just like actually never mind
It's 1989, and so many movies of this era had that, like, at least a scene of like the indictment of yuppie culture.
Absolutely.
And that's what this is.
Yeah, this is they could, they could not be concerned.
They don't recognize his name.
They're like, he's like, oh, yeah, I play for the Indians or whatever.
And the old, the older ladies, like, oh, I've heard they're quite terrible or something like that.
Do they still have a team?
Oh, is that what she says?
I mean, this is a, you could cut this, literally, they make him, he comes in, he bursts in like an asshole.
And the guy is accommodating and nice.
Like, let's get a drink.
Let me introduce you our friends.
I think that's a total problem.
What they should do is he meets them.
They get him right immediately and he's like, I'm leaving.
And then René Russo goes like, well, okay, let me put this down.
I'll say goodbye.
And they just look at each other.
And then they have the last exchange, which is stay away from her, suck my dick.
Yes.
That is all they want to say to each other.
It is a primo delivery of suck my dick that Tom Barrenger gives this yuppie scum.
It's so good that this series.
is worth it, that he is an unhinged
stock. I love that.
Shut my dick, no one can stop
me. Hey, listen,
if I'm not dead, I'm
coming to your house. You ever see that
movie Terminator that came out?
Bump, bump, bum, bum,
motherfucker, what do you think now?
Do you know the red dragon will rise?
I have
He's just got fucking pantyhose on his face.
I got to get home to my
tiger.
Do you have any, do you have any
iron butterfly
tape. No, I'll
bring my own. It's fine.
Are you friends with a blind woman by any chance?
You got dollars. I got
dollar eyed.
The two
first instances of stalking
here are cut in the middle. It's a funny
joke. So the owner realizes
they're still not doing bad
enough. There are only seven games
out of first place or something.
And so
she's like, let's cut the budget more. This is where
I love the shitbox plane that they have to fly on.
It's fun.
It's like fucking a blues plane.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's a shot of the pilot taping up the propeller with duct tape.
Yeah.
I mean, we're all flying Boeing in May, so it's a nice preview screening here we got.
Yeah, the plane bit's funny.
I think there's, is there a stewardess?
I think what it was like, someone says, like, I think we should get the stewardess or something like that.
I think it's Wesley's like.
I don't think there is a stewardess.
He needs a bag.
Are there pilots?
Oh, no, that's what it is.
Yeah.
Leslie Snipes needs a bag.
We should call the stewardess to get the vomit bag.
I don't think there is a stewardess.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, are there any pilots?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, there's so much of this that, yeah, it does feel like just these little
moments.
Like, you get the little moment of, you know, the skipper being like, hey, I'm pretty sure,
Vaughn that you need glasses because he can't read a,
you know, letters
written on a piece of paper far away.
He's about to put it
to send him to the minors and then he's just like
and like Charlie Sheen's looking
and he's like, wait a shit and hold on,
can you read this? That's how good this
fucking dude is, man. I thought that
you know, it could have gone either way. It's just like
I'm illiterate. Oh, I can see
perfectly fine. I just can't read
or write.
You have a thing where
fucking the Chelsea Ross's character
does it. Again, it's like
this dude is
practicing, you know, his religion
in the locker room and then like he walks away
and this dude's like, walks
by, like, say, because there's been this whole
thing about like there's rum that's being put
in front of this idol. Don't touch my rum,
whatever. And he goes,
up your butt, Joe boo,
and takes the shot of rum. And then when he
goes out on the field, he's immediately
hitting the head with a bat that goes flying.
You know, it's funny.
It's not like a
thread of any kind. No, he's got a
great unlikable face. Like at least, at
very least like those bits about the voodoo like you know that he's the villain in the
scenario even though yeah yeah no even though yeah no at one point the owner uh i think character's
name is rachel phelps yes yes mrs phelps yeah but she comes out and you know like
lou brown you know he's just what was the actor's name john gam james james gammon james
gammon he's completely naked oh dude it's so great this is what the whirlpool is broken he's
like why can't i get in the goddamn world first of all you're the manager you don't need the
we're all pulled. I just like it.
Standing there completely naked and
she's like she's going to tell. We're out of
towels. I'm too old
to be digging into lockers to get
one. Yep. And you look at
my wet dick.
She bangs on Charlie Sheen's
jockstrap. Yeah. A little
funny games. This is what she's
kind of playing with the guy. I said, by the way, we should say
the great Charles Seifers in this movie
as the general manager.
Evil did die tonight.
Yeah, that's right.
he's great he's just got a great face
and a great delivery like he does yeah
and it's interesting to see him like in a movie
like this you know
and his character's like Charlie or whatever
and he's like the general manager
in between the Lou Brown character
and the owner of the team
and he's kind of playing both sides
he's the one who reveals to James
Gammon that Indy Phelps
is producering this and
trying to my God we're getting
producers
what on that movie how dare
she what the hell does that make me franz leapkin or something i certainly hope i'm not the zero
most stale character that guy was fat as hell even though i will jump on you okay speaking of other
movies i got this guy outlined two cyphers he keeps calling me he's a he's a therapist or something
something about some great evil coming to town right um you can ignore that that's uh that might be
the mexican officials yeah i do agree
that evil dies tonight. We're going to kick
the shit out of them, Yankees. God damn
it. Yes, the Yankees are pure evil.
Yes. Yeah, I agree.
The one game with the Yankees
early on, I love that one line, the Yankee
batterer that is a vill,
one of the villains of the movie.
One of these lines he says to
fucking Berengers, like,
how's your wife and my kids do it?
Yeah, that's a good one.
Somewhere
a little before that, Vaughn's about to have his
like first win as a pitcher.
This is where Corbyn Burnson, he misses what should be an easy grab to get the out.
And so, like, everyone's kind of a little suspicious.
And this is where Berringer goes to the house.
And he's like, oh, you know, being really nice to the wife and everything.
It's like, oh, get you something to drink.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, how you doing, sweetheart?
I promise I'm not going to kill you.
I'm here to kill your husband.
Don't worry about it.
And it was for you.
It would be dead or, oh, let me just bring my air tank in here.
I just carry it around in case.
It's a cattle call her egg air tank.
You know, it makes me feel better that I'm growing as a person
because usually I would see a woman.
I would just have to immediately choke her to death.
And ICU, Suzanne, and it's just like a friendly.
We just have a nice relationship.
I'm just so happy about that.
Thank you.
You calm down my heart rate, Suzanne.
He's a psychopathic killer with bad knees, but sure what.
He's a psychopathic catcher.
You could still get us to the World Series, but so what.
but yeah this is the
I don't know what happened to you
but don't tank another play like that ever again
if you do I'm gonna cut your nuts off
and stuff them down your fucking throat
and it just cuts this woman holding a tray of coffee
there's a lot of good fuck the fucking from
Berger later is iconic practically
yeah big pops
yeah because Seifers does come in
and he's like listen I'll let you know what's going on
here it's because you know
she's producing the whole thing and then like
because they're 60 and 60 at this point
by the way she has already
lost all incentive to lose
you know what I mean like they're 500 team
they're just middling they're not going to be the worst team in the league
they're never they're never going to get to that
a low threshold that she needs
to make her dream come true so she might as well put money
into the team but she doesn't right
because that's the thing is it's like
at a certain point because the movie doesn't work
unless she's the villain I guess exactly
yes but then at the same time when the villain's
motivation doesn't exactly make sense
evil woman
It's the wild thing cut
It's the twist that she was into it the whole time
She's motivating that's just so
It's so innocent
It's fucking stupid
It's kind of dumb either way
It is
But so this is when like Gammon's like
Well I just heard apparently
Miss Phelps believes we can't win anything
She brought the
It's basically if I do that anymore
I'm gonna fucking die
Yeah careful there
If you know
She brought a
of rookies and veterans and like anyone who's on the team by the end of the year is going to get cut anyway like she doesn't care about any of us there's no there's no job security here yes even you dorn i mean that it's it's funny because he's like all right folks what we got to do is it can't just be jake here who hates a woman
we all got to hate a woman for this to really work so here is a naked poster thing what i don't stand up cut it right
Cut out.
Because I think she was supposed to be a showgirl at some point.
So this is an old photo of her, I guess, that we're taking a piece of clothes off for each time.
And there's a thing that's like, well, the press thinks we're going to fuck up.
So why don't we stick around and give him a shit burger to eat?
And then Barrona sends him, well, I guess if that's what's going on, we might as well win the whole fucking thing.
That's a great man.
It's so good.
It's so good.
I do like also when Charles Seifers breaks the news to Lou.
about what's going on.
It's great how we have a cut here
because it's not like
explaining everything that we all know already.
The audience knows what the fuck's going on
because he said like, Lou's like,
you know, oh yeah, coming along really well.
All we need is just a couple more things
to get it together.
And he's like, Mrs. Phelps will never allow that.
And it just cuts away.
And you know, he's fucking, you know,
telling her what's going on.
Meanwhile, they do win a game at some point
and Taylor is Tom Barringer's name
spies Renee Rousseau in the crowd
and this is where he runs out
and he goes to the security guard
and he's like, oh my God,
I can't get to the other stadium
to get my car.
Oh my God, I need a car right now.
And the guy's like, I don't know,
why don't you take the one of the cruisers
that we bop around the field with
cut to Tom Berringer
driving a golf cart
following this woman again.
A golf cart that is shaped like a baseball.
It's a baseball like with the batting helmet on it.
She's unlisted for a reason, dude.
Yeah, and by then they've won a few games.
We do a quick montage of like the clothes coming off of the cardboard cutout.
Charlie Sheen is at a piece of shit rock music going on.
Charlie Sheen is at a bar, a very sexy lady goes, wild thing.
This is a, oh, yes, I'm sorry.
He's at the jukebox.
It's another one of those like absolutely nothing scenes.
It's Charlie at a jukebox.
And the girl comes up and is like, ooh, wild thing.
They play the song and then that's, that's that's that.
Because it'd be kind of lame if, like, because they, because early on the fan group says it as like, as like, sarcastically is like, wow thing.
Yeah.
You fucked up the game thing.
You walk everything.
Yeah, that's right.
And now, but like you do have to have somebody be like, you can't just have him give himself his own fucking nickname.
Somebody has to give him this thing.
And now everyone's wearing wild thing t-shirts and so on and so forth.
It's a phenomenon across
of Cleveland. We see people in bars.
They do like construction workers
are now wearing the Indian hard
helmets. What's his
Hardheads? What's his name from Scrubs?
Neil Flynn is in this. Yeah. He's like
one of the guys is just like
because it's funny because at first like they
fucking suck. They're not so bad.
And then they become like kind of great.
Yeah. You see through like
these same groups of
Cleveland citizens
in the fan base like evolving their opinion.
Right, because eventually, like, there's people in the stands and they're enjoying it.
But at the start of the movie, it's like three guys.
They're like, let's get a wave.
Who the fuck are these guys?
I think that's Neil Flynn's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's get a wave going.
And it's a two-person wave, which is kind of funny.
Yeah.
And the Japanese worker's been like, they're shitty.
Yes.
They're still shitty.
But yeah, so we do.
I mean, again, it's a sports movie.
So there's so many montages, montage of like, you know, them practicing to get better or whatever.
Well, you should say he follows, he follows Renner Risto to her house.
Oh, right.
That's what's bringing up.
This is the baseball.
ball cart. Yes, and then he fucks her brains out. Yeah, this is, he balls her.
He does, you ever hear that, that expression? My parents used to say that they bawled.
Oh, really? Parents are saying that. Oh, yeah. Your father bawled my brains out last night.
They were quite liberated. Yes. Amazing. To the detriment of me. I don't think I was good for them, bad for you.
Bad for you. I don't think I've heard it in like television, whatever. I don't think I've ever heard in the wild.
Someone's a balder last night. Maybe it's more of a Midwestern thing. My parents are from Chicago.
Yeah, could be. Yeah. Doesn't Jeff Goldblum say it in, um, I'm sure it's a cover. Yes.
Yeah. Well, actually, that makes sense because in the Midwest, you can only have sex after a ball. Right. So that, you know, it all goes together there. You see, here it's soda, there it's pop. Here it's sex, there it's ball.
It's a little difference. Tomato. Tomato. Little differences. It's the little differences between New York and Cleveland.
Yeah, or Chicago. I don't know. I didn't go to fucking Cleveland.
and Burger King. How about that?
So they sweep the angels at one point
and puts them into second place.
This is where they have,
I really like the quick shot of them
filming the commercial and everything.
And they have Wesley come in and he slides
into the home plate.
You know, American Express, don't steal
home without it. Very funny.
You do want Wesley to have a little bit more
a time. Yes. Well, that's the
problem with everyone in the movie.
Like everyone needs a little more time,
but the nature of the movie is you don't get it.
One thing that Wesley does get in relation to all this, though, is he says that he wants to steal a hundred bases in the season.
He bought a hundred pairs of batting gloves.
And for every base that he steals, he's going to attack the pair of gloves, like, up on his wall at home.
And you do see in this same montage, he's at home hammering.
And there's a shit ton of gloves all over the wall.
Hey, haze, are you sealed my tacks?
What the fuck am I going to eat tonight?
That's how I freshen my breast.
God damn it.
I put a bunch of tacks in my mouth.
No, not tic tacks,
tack, tax.
Those are the one with the
Chipotle seasoning on them.
I like them
because they're spicy going down
and burn coming out.
Oh, my God.
You should try the jalapeno tax.
They're delicious.
Oh, I must, oh, my God,
I'm sick today.
I'm shit liquid metal.
Oh, $1,000.
Oh, crap.
He only does knives and
stabbing weapons.
Believe you.
It's like a pile of like
Mercury on the floor
and it forms into a turn. That's
reconstituting. We got to run the
turd one thousand's after us.
Clogged my
toilet with the turd one thousand.
God damn. You get
the T2 music.
Let's go hide at the gallery.
The gallery?
Carl the plumber now.
Your toilet's already
dead. Hang up the phone.
There's one more chip.
I eat microchips.
It's in my asshole.
Let's go to Cyberdine and eat some fucking computer parts.
Cyberdine and dash.
Yes.
This guy is essentially the creature at the end of a cure.
Just eating all metal things.
I got to be honest, those Terminator arms are pretty damn good.
You know, a little mustard on there.
My ass has become self-aware.
It's going to start judgment.
took so long to get that
whole Terminator down
my gullina d'need a vacation.
Oh my gosh.
Your step-parents are dead.
This is our last podcast.
I hope you'll talk tomorrow.
No, I'm not.
We got more stuff to do this week.
Yeah, we got to record tomorrow,
so maybe we should stop talking.
Get some salt water in there.
Good show, everyone.
Big detail, though.
At the end of this,
everybody's doing better montage
is Mrs.
Corbyn Burson, Mrs. Dorn,
is watching some sort of press conference on the television.
The team's all celebrating, blah, blah, blah.
And what does she spy in the background?
Her husband, putting his arm around a lady
and going in some back room or whatever.
And this is how you can tell
that the guys haven't been getting laid like this in a while
because, like, you would know, Dorn back in the day.
Oh, sure.
He would never allow such a thing.
But like now he's just willy-nilly, here I am.
You're getting sloppy, dude.
It's terrible.
In your old age.
dude, yeah. I mean, I do love
this. Huge
props to the
makeup and the wardrobe people here
because, so what happens is
Skip, James
Gannon tells Vaughn like,
look, you're not, we're going
against the Yankees. I want to
start the other guy.
Chelsea Ross's guy. Yeah.
And he's like, it's not about you. You got us
here. Eddie Harris. That's right.
It's not about you. You got us here. It's just a thing.
He's feeling a little depressed.
He goes to a bar.
This woman walks in and a stunning woman walks in.
And he's just like, he's like, well, I don't know why you'd be.
He's like, well, you're the sexiest man I've ever seen.
And for a moment, it didn't click for me.
It was his wife.
Oh, is that right?
A minute for me to get it.
And I was like, oh, wait, good job on the fucking hair, man.
You really did it.
She does totally transform herself.
Once he's, when she fucks him almost immediately.
And then like, once she's laying in bed, I'm like, oh, of.
Oh, fuck. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's great.
I do love the post-sex
reveal here where, like, she's putting her clothes on
and he's like, hey, where are you going?
I didn't even get your name. And she's like,
Suzanne, Suzanne Dorn.
Mrs. Suzanne Dorn.
She true.
Roger Dorn. She's true detectives.
Yeah. That's great.
Oh, my God. I can't believe.
I would rewatch it. That's just, it's like
Matthew, Maddie McConaughey.
She used my dick against me.
I can't believe.
It's just, like, standing there, like, robbed of his masculine ass.
It's like, get out of here.
She says to Charlie Sheena, she leaves the room.
She goes, this is disgusting.
She goes, you're a good kid.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, boy.
I mean, that's what they were saying the whole time.
That's how they were working it.
You know what I mean?
It's just, I don't need to hear it.
If I was sure, I mean, if I'm, I'm Ricky Vaughn after this, I'm putting on the temptations.
I'm doing a little dance.
I just fucked my fucking nemes.
his wife. Now there's tension. You know, they're going in against the Yankees. They're about to
like maybe sit, like clinch it and go on to the World Series or whatever. Yeah. And now it's like,
oh, shit, are we going to have to fight Dorn? What's going to happen? There's all this
him and honing. Serrano wants to sacrifice a live chicken before the game. Well, and you know,
what's better than that is a KFC commercial, which, you know, but that is, I could picture
Tom Berringer doing it for 100% both as a person and this character. He needed a whole chicken. Well, it's
kind of funny because Tom Berringer's the guy that's solving all the problems.
Like, all right. Yeah, I'll take care of Serrano.
Oh, by the way, Charlie or Vaughn, you just get dressed early and wait on the mouth.
Just do not be in the locker room at all.
You have a lot of time here.
Get out of here before Dorn even hits the club has.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Could you win the game for us?
Because I think then he might not care.
If you could do that, we'd be great.
One Dorn thing we skipped in the commercial, it's kind of great because this whole thing is like,
I'm in his acting career.
I just love like in the commercial, he's like absolutely.
terrible. He can't deliver a line to save his life. And it's a great detail in this movie.
Which instantly reminded me of like when you have those, this happens. I mean, this happened
with Alex Rodriguez. Yes. Where like you retire and then you become an on-air person. Arod has gotten
better. But when he started just being like the color commentary guy, I think like ESPN had him or
something. It was fucking brutal. He sucks. Tony Romo sucks. Tony Romo sucks. Tony Romo is obnoxious
doing Monday night football. I have to imagine they're both.
better than Dennis Miller, though.
Oh, God. I'd be better than Dennis Miller.
That was a brutal experiment.
Athletes becoming actors.
Michael Jordan sucks at acting.
LeBron James is awful.
Rough, dude, rough one.
Rough hand to think.
Oh, but Larry Bird's great.
Ray Allen.
Ray Allen and he got game.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Not too bad.
There are exceptions.
There are a few exceptions.
So, yeah, the whole chicken thing.
I'll tell you what, though,
with that product placement, man.
I was like, I was like,
I had a case of the grumb bellies there.
That chicken looks real good.
The grumb bellies?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what happens
when you eat far too much sheet metal
in one night.
You get the grumb bellies.
Oh my God,
I got a bad too much sheet metal last night.
Got a case of the grumb bellies
better take it easy to eat a couple of tires tonight.
Someone out there name your band the grumbbellies.
Oh,
there's some.
You think it's already done?
There's some now defunct Cleveland grunge
band called the Grumbbells.
All right. Then go with Piss Fart Toilet or whatever.
I was in that band actually.
We're Piss Fart Toilat Good Day.
Fuck you, Cleveland.
But yes, it's a big game.
It's the Yankees. And it is kind of funny because again, like, at this point,
Ms. Phelps is just totally like, she's just in the movie.
Like, because she never gets her come up.
Because again, like, you guess what? It's a sold-out crowd.
That's all going in your pocket.
That's good for you.
And they deleted the scene of her final scene in the movie.
Well, yeah, the last day of you see her,
essentially, she's like, she's her rumphing,
and Charlie's, like, jerking off next to her in ecstasy.
Charles ciphers as Charlie, not the Charlie Sheen, of course.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, he's not doing anything untoward to that character.
You know, it's the pen and everyone's allowed one good come.
If you'll excuse me.
And you see the way that, you know, people have sort of developed here, right?
We do have a little bit of character stuff happening, right?
Chelsea Ross's
and Harris character. He's warming
up on the man. He's got the start. He's warming up
with the Jobu Idol next to him.
There's a,
there's a play that
Corbin Burnson makes.
Dorn makes this play and he does use
his body as defense to stop the ball.
So you see like all of these things
that they've been trying to put in the play
the whole movie. But they should have done more. I think
you should have seen Ed Harris
take a fucking bugger right on
the fucking thing and like, and have
have like a close-up of the eye of the hitter
be like, oh, dude
I didn't write down
a lot of the Bob Euker's stuff, but this is
what, like, somebody hits
a fucking home run. And this
is just an example of these
Native American
influenced
things here we go. That
home run is off the reservation.
It's like slapping your fucking
forehead. Oh, that fall just went right in the ground,
and now we'll make a land acknowledgment.
No.
less than 25 people in this movie
are doing the Ted Nugent headdress
and makeup thing.
That's a funny thing. That's a funny thing.
It's like now that the guardians, I just feel bad for the guy
who has to like, because like last two years ago,
he was like reservation and this and pow out.
And I was just like, we guarded that one.
We're guarding it again.
They sure did shield them tonight.
I will say the guardians on that bridge are pretty cool.
They're really cool.
We went across that bridge to get to the airport or something.
after a show there and they were
really impressive. It's like a very
Joel Schumacher Gotham City looking thing.
Yeah, it's really cool.
You're dead right.
It's so is. Yeah.
I do like
one Bob Euker thing, which is the iconic line
where I think it's the first time
Ricky misses a pitch
and it goes way outside of the
whatever thing, just a bit outside.
It's just kind of like, he does
both of them very well, which is like
the big ones and the small ones to you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, just a bit outside
and it's like fucking eight feet out of the strike zone.
Yeah, so, you know, Dennis Hayesbert,
I guess learns to not rely so much on his religion
because he has to be, fuck you, Joe Boo, I'll do it myself.
Yes.
Which, and then he does hit a real,
he gets a two-run, home run, I think, or something like that.
Tie the game, which is great.
Ties the game, yeah.
And then so here we go.
Chelsea Ross, you know, he's the old-timer.
He's 46 going on 76 in his.
movie doesn't have he's you know doesn't have a lot of throws in him things he can do this
will finish this inning well he's put up on all night talking to don draper on the phone
about a hotel this wily idea for a hotel chain he's got
but so here we go relief pitcher comes in and this movie
is credited with starting what is now the trend in professional baseball
the closing pitcher has entrance music oh that's kind of cool like it you know the one i
grew up with Mariana Rivera very
famously when he would come out to close
down a game and her Sandman
that started with this movie
and this moment I mean this is like
this is a great sports movie moment in here
where Wild Thing plays and
and Sheen walks out you know
and the place is going crazy it's just a really
well done you know you get excited
the guy with the handlebar mustache
he's been fucking up the whole movie
which this guy I was reading I can't I don't remember
his name but he was a real baseball
player. And funny enough, he was
a pitcher, mostly
in the American league, so he
rarely batted ever.
Weird, yeah. In his career, I think he wound up playing
for the National League later. But he's a big
fucking dude, too. He's a huge dude.
Yeah, he's a real tall, like, looks like fucking
cane from the WWB.
Only not a fucking insane
politician now or whatever.
Oh, right, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, that guy's elected
to office in, like, Georgia
or no. I don't remember. Some are crazy.
Tennessee, I think. Yeah, some are crazy.
I'm going to elect someone for a public office that threw people through fucking pine tables.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sure.
Well, he can get things done, obviously.
Was it outsider, you see.
Oh, that's wonderful.
And then, well, let's reelect him because, well, he's an insider now, you see.
The thing that is unrealistic, though, is she, like, Vaughn gets a pitch off and every, like, the stadium is still playing wild thing and everyone's singing.
No, no, no, no, no.
It would be turned right off.
Yeah.
You're not blaring.
music for the first pitch of the inning
like that. There's a cutaway to the owner, Rachel's
saying, I hate this fucking song.
Is that when Charles Seifers does
the Raspberry? Yeah. Yeah, maybe.
He's like, hey, this fucking song and he's like,
I love the drugs.
I do, this is when Corbynson
finally comes up to him
and he takes the ball and he's like,
strike this fucking guy out, will you?
I only got one thing to say to you.
Strike this motherfucker out.
It's so good. Yeah, nice moment. You can fuck my
wife. It's fine. Yeah, whatever. We're into it.
it. Come on over on Saturday. You strike
this motherfucker out. You can come
over whenever you want to do it. Give me some tips.
You know, maybe I'll start fucking her.
You got a hard on. We'll figure it out together.
I could jerk off on her feet while you're doing
other stuff. I could sit in a chair.
Very comfy chairs in my house.
Berringer's got a good profanity use here
too because when Dorn starts walking
to the plate, he just goes, oh shit.
Like he thinks a fight is going to
break out on the mound, which is awesome.
Oh, I found the guy, this guy
playing Haywood, this Yankee.
is former pitcher Peter Vukovic
who played among other teams
the White Sox, the Blue Jays, the Cardinals, and the Brewers.
Nice. Nice.
But yeah, strikes him out, strike three,
three pitches is all it takes. He gets this dude going
down 101 miles an hour, this third fastball.
They're like, oh, give him, like, don't give him a fat. He loves fastballs,
but no, his fastballs are so good. That's how that works.
And I'll say this, and I like that buildup. I like that.
gets backed and he gets to strike him out.
That's good. And then the Berringer
Babe Ruth thing where like
all of a sudden the secret villain fat man,
the pitcher comes out. Yes. And I'm like
who? What? It's weird.
Who cares? It's weird
because it has to, the only way
that this game can work, well I guess it would
have made more sense actually if Indians were
up and he was about
to, you know what I mean? Like that way
the strikeout would end the
end the game. So the Indians were tied.
There has to be one more side. So yeah, to your point, like the
offensive part of it of Tom Berger calling his shot, like
they're just like fucking with people. Yes. Yeah. Because they
do they, they're like, oh, do you think this would work? And they do the hand
signals. And it's like, just pretend
to point like your Babe Ruth. They're setting him up because he bunts.
Yeah, yeah. So that's the whole. And then Wesley can just
steal two bases. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, so they win the game.
It's great. They win the game off the
Barringer Bunn, Wesley scores.
And what's that? Is that my future wife in the stand?
And she's shown that she better be here.
She no longer has the engagement ring on.
So we're on to fuck.
She comes down.
The whole team's holding her up.
Yeah, fuck prize.
Fuck prize.
Yes.
It's the best kind of prize.
I can't wait to cheat on you one more time, baby.
Oh, all the ways in which I'm going to cheat on you.
Oh, yeah.
You fucking fill for it.
Oh, Lynn, I'm so happy.
I'm so sad to hear that Tom's missing.
What?
No, I heard Tom's missing.
He hasn't been seen for 36 hours.
What I do like about this, too, is it just ends on the field celebrating.
And what's great is this is just the ALDS.
It's just a divisional playoff game.
It's not, like, they have to go through a whole other series to win the championship of the American League to then go to the World Series.
So it's cool that it's like lower stakes.
It's lower stakes.
And then you do find out in the second movie, they lose the ALCS.
They don't go to the World Series.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I have a false memory of them going to the World Series.
The second movie, they win the World Series.
Yeah.
That's what I'm thinking of.
Yeah, but it's like, yeah, after this, whatever,
whoever they played after the Yankees and the ALDS, they lost.
Or CS, they lost, which is very cool.
But yeah, that is the end of the movie.
Much like Mighty Ducks, I think, right?
They don't win the big chance, the nationals, do they?
Oh, in the second one?
Yeah, at the second one, they start, and they're in loss, I think.
I don't remember.
I forget, but like, I think also it's a minor league.
Well, the second one is the USA team versus Iceland or whatever.
Big leagues.
Yeah.
Well, they're not.
Guys, this is Sheenpril, not Estabez.
You're totally right.
Fair is fair.
Stick to one Sheen brother here at a time, but that is the end of Major League.
Go around the horn here.
Final thoughts.
Eric Siska, first up to bat.
It is a.
light recommend for me it is it's fun i like the ensemble i like some of these comedy elements i kind of
wish it all came together a little bit stronger as a movie movie uh i remember liking it more when i
was a kid but that makes sense yeah but it's a light fun movie if you want to put it on put it on
there you go batting second christopher cabin i mean yeah i i i recommend it i think if you haven't seen
i assume if you have television and grew up in the 90s you've seen this in one way or another at least
in pieces at some point you had to but yeah if you haven't seen some like it's definitely worth it
there's a lot of good zingers the script is not bad but again as eric pointed out there's just like
no uh nothing holding it together no emotional resonance no thematic buildup any of that stuff
that you would like to have in a normal movie a movie similar i would say to this but they uh do a better
job with it a league of their own yeah and uh you know i would have loved to see that i would
love to Soderberg was supposed
to do Moneyball for so long
and like I kind of wish he
we had some of his process in here like we say about
getting some characters doing stuff
Is that my younger sister
kit?
You know what they call Soderberg in the Midwest?
Popperberg.
Yeah, really? Yeah, it's true.
But yes, recommend it. Batting third
Steve's saying it. It's a lot recommend. Yeah, for sure.
I mean, it's a buck 45. It's
a sports movie through and through. It's a
good, I'm not even a baseball fan
but I enjoy the baseball stuff
is actually the best parts of the movie
is like them playing baseball
all of the baseballie like
oh he can't hit a splitter and blah blah blah
all that stuff it's engaging
it's fun it's like oh this I'm the older
guy on the team I'm going to teach young all that stuff
is really interesting the outside personal
stuff doesn't actually really hold together the
stocking and you know
our good friend
the great Dennis Hayesbert just just
having to eat some shit in this movie
so that but it's
It's a light recommend.
Bad and Clean Up Me.
I'll say, yeah, you know, I like this movie fine.
I don't love it.
It's a recommend.
I always say a full-throated recommend.
Sure.
You know, what we haven't mentioned,
Primo Hangover movie.
It is just, it's a full-throated recommend.
It's like gravely-throated recommend.
Absolutely.
Yeah, a Primo hangover movie.
Second one not as good, but still has some laughs.
But this is, you know, yeah, the stalking and, you know,
the praying to Joe Boo and all that.
Not great, but it's 1989.
There was unfortunate stuff
all over the place with pop culture,
including the fucking baseball team
that's the center of this. And also, again,
the thing that does not happen anymore,
and we were talking about this somewhere recently,
maybe on that night game episode,
because again, that was another baseball-related thing,
but that idea of these movies
where a real team
is licensing their name
and it's like a shitty team
being shitty in the movie.
really don't. I don't know when the heck the last time you saw something like that.
Was it Eddie?
Oh, Eddie, where she's coaching the Knicks.
Yeah.
Maybe you're the real team in the replacements?
No.
No.
That's a fake California team.
I have to look it up.
But like that it's kind of cool.
Moneyball, right?
The Oakland A's.
Oh, yeah.
I guess that's true.
That might have been one of the more recent ones.
Incredible movie.
Still got to see it.
Oh, man.
It's a secret shame.
You really love that one.
I got to check that out.
But anyway, that's going to do it.
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I feel like that might be a blind spot for some people.
Give it a spin.
Yeah, try it out.
Absolutely.
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the last in the
Beck I guess this is
what not a quadrology no
the fifth one quintology
quintology just what the doctor
ordered hell crazy as hell
a pretender to the throne of
Hyder in the house
another one of these fucking things
these guys trying to just ape Gary Busey in that movie
and just hasn't happened to it and by the way
please don't say last we got to say most recent
I know you don't want more Chris Cabin, but I'm doing my work here.
And of course, Melro 2 and O, that's going to keep rocking and rolling this month.
Of course, things were really heating up and getting fucking crazy.
That's going to be great.
We are now full steam ahead on too old for this shit, which is now currently a X-Men 97 recap show.
We're doing biweekly-ish recaps on that.
We're having a lot of fun on that feed.
Absolutely.
And because they're like a little wonky with the release dates, if you go to W.
and podcast.com. You go to the too old
for this shit. Show page. It has
the release date for every episode right there
ready to go. All episodes shall be
recapped. And our Star Trek
show, the Nexus, is back to normal
programming, as is the Gleap Glossary.
I don't have a guy picked out yet.
It'll be a humdinger.
I didn't do my homework for animation
damnation yet. But they will return.
Just like James Bond,
they will return. Exactly.
And we are going to return here next
Tuesday, where you can get it all new
We Hate Movies episode, either on that
free feed with commercials or over here on the Patreon
where it is ad-free, folks.
Sheenpril rocks on next Tuesday
with which Charlie Sheen star in film.
It's going to get confusing. It's not baseball
month. It is Sheenpril. But we
are covering the rookie from 1990.
It's not a baseball movie.
It's a cop movie. I've never seen this.
So it's Charlie and Clint, right? And
Ralph Julia is the baddie. I think directed
by Eastwood. Dude, it is
a
slam dunk. It's a home. It's a
Humdinger.
I'm going to be sent through time
because I know that I've only seen this movie once
and that was in theaters.
Whoa.
One time in theaters with my dad
when I was seven and I don't remember anything.
Oh, your dad definitely loves this movie.
Your dad wanted to see this bad.
Oh, absolutely.
I don't care that he's supposed to be
an altar boy practice today.
We're going to see the rookie, God damn it.
Teach him something.
But until next week,
we're talking Clint Eastwood's the rookie
that also has Charlie Sheen in it
Because it's Sheenpro. I've been Andrew Jupin.
Steven Say that. Eric Siska.
Chris Cap.
Take it easy.
Thank you.