We Hate Movies - S14 Ep742: What Lies Beneath
Episode Date: June 4, 2024“Why are you trying to do the Hitchcock stuff when your contemporary, Brian De Palma, is doing it much better? - Eric On this week’s WHM, we’re kicking off the Summer Blockbuster Extravaganz...a with a chat about the Robert Zemeckis ghost house domestic thriller, What Lies Beneath! Was this one of the last major Hollywood films to have middle-aged people being this horny? Would the movie have been better if they didn’t confirm the existence of a ghost in the world of the story? Isn’t it great seeing James Remar play an academic non-scumbag? How unsettling is it to see Harrison Ford wear a Rolling Stones t-shirt? And how many Hitchcock “riffs” can you cram into one movie before someone has a suit on their hands? PLUS: We take a count of how many Harrison Ford characters go… downtown! What Lies Beneath stars Michelle Pfeiffer, Harrison Ford, James Remar, Miranda Otto, Diana Scarwid, Ray Baker, Wendy Crewson, Amber Valletta, Micole Mercurio, and the great Joe Morton as Dr. Drayton; directed by Robert Zemeckis. This episode is brought to you in part by Chubbies! Whether you’re getting dressed for your workday, a workout, or a weekend getaway, Chubbies has you covered. For a limited time, Chubbies is giving our listeners 20% off your order with our code WHM at chubbiesshorts.com. That’s code WHM at chubbiesshorts.com. Support our show and tell them we sent you! Don't blend in with the crowd—stand out with Chubbies! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new SHEENPRIL, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs!
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This week on the program, it's a movie with so many Hitchcock references, you kind of wish you were just watching Psycho.
It's What Lies Beneath, I'm Andrew Jopin, bathtub, Steven Say-Dak, Eric Siska, Chris Fuhr, and we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies.
Thank you for tuning in, as always.
That's right.
We are finally getting to the bottom of What Lies Beneath from 2000, directed by Bobby Z himself, Robert Zemeckis.
Oh, this is a movie for your parents.
Your parents did go on like a pseudo-sexy date night?
Oh, yeah.
I miss those pseudo-sexy date nights.
You know, the thing is, I didn't really care for this movie that much.
But if I had seen it in the theater now, as big movie stars, a little sexy, little ghosties.
If you saw it now, if I saw it now, I don't think I'd like it, but I would get a phenomenal nap.
Just one of the better naps that you can have at the movie.
It just nothing happens, my lord.
to nothing. It is a big time, nothing.
It's like 30 minutes and nothing
happens for the first 30 minutes or so.
But I kind of like that. I like settling in.
Sure. New England.
But then once you hit that 30 minutes,
something better start happening.
Something better start happening.
You know what might start happening actually? I might hit play real quick.
Coming soon to theaters.
Look at this. It's the VHS trailer game.
Holy shit.
Favorite game about obsolete materials.
Hosted by me, your J-Master Stephen Sadek.
I wish there was vodka in this.
Chris, don't you dare grumble.
That's supposed to be me right now.
Yeah, Chris has no reason to grumble because he is in a comfortable lead here.
He is the Boston Celtics of this game.
That doesn't bode well.
No, they're doing.
They're going to the fucking NBA championship.
Okay, currently fine, but generally speaking.
All right, basketball boys, what's the worst team in the NBA right now?
Oh, good question.
That would be not the Atlanta Hawks, but they're close.
Because there's like, there's like two or maybe three still playing.
No, no, in the real, in the whole.
Oh, in the league.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, it would be like the Charlotte Hornets.
That's you.
Oh, they're bad.
Yeah.
I'm the Charlotte Hornets.
Yes.
And Andrew is kind of actually the Knicks because he's, he did pretty well, but it's still
pretty far behind.
Chris has 80 points.
Andrew has 54 points.
Eric has 22 points.
Still anyone's game.
Anybody's game.
should say that this is the beginning of the summer blockbuster extravaganza.
So this is sort of, we're rounding the last corner here for this season.
So it's a statistical and mathematical improbability.
We can see what's going to happen.
So I could just take a nap right now.
What is, you should put on one last name beneath it.
Dude, you'll go right out.
The, we're talking about what is at stake, I believe, is a redo episode.
of We Hate Movies, as well as a cameo slush fund of their choice.
And if we remember the third one, it is a We Love Movies episode of their choice as well.
So it's a big, big kit kiboodle for this time around.
You up the ante this year.
I did.
Yeah.
So that's at stake.
So everybody, there's still room.
And, you know, I believe in the last couple, I'll try and like really jam some shit in there to try my best to make it that someone else could possibly win.
See, because that's what you should do, Steve, right?
It's like beneath the planet of the apes, right?
Like, you're going through, you're watching that movie,
and you think it's one thing the whole way through.
In this case, yeah, we're thinking the one thing, Chris won.
But then the end of the movie, there's an atomic bomb that Charlton Heston explodes.
And that could be some sort of bonus round, what with a DVD round and whatnot.
And you're like, oh, I don't know, 50 points.
If you get this nothing movie I've heard about.
Sure.
The old, the old family feud thing where it's like,
Hey, the first 24 minutes didn't count.
Here's a fucking coin flip to see which family wins.
But that also means family feud.
You got to walk over.
You got to kiss me.
Oh, I'd love to be kissed.
Okay.
We'll see, Eric should be doing the kissing because he's the one that's got the mustache.
I would have to host the show that maybe I take over the VHS trailer game.
You know, people have suggested that for next year that somebody else becomes Jamestor and I get thrown in the mix.
Uh-oh.
It's an interesting idea.
I think so.
And it might be the person who's won the most.
I think that Chris might be able to be a serpius chain master.
Should he win?
We don't know yet.
We'll see.
These are ideas we're having.
Okay, here we go.
All right.
Let's do it.
You know how to go, blah, blah, if you bring in and you lose.
You do you know.
Yeah, da, da, da, da, da, da.
All right.
Round one, there's four, there will be four rounds.
This is, by the way, off the 2000 VHS of what lies beneath.
So keep DreamWorks in your mind.
Keep the year 2000 in your mind.
Think of, think, think, think.
Here we go.
Round one.
Mm-hmm.
A game-changing...
Oh, powerful.
Round one.
Game Masters Kalu.
Thanks.
I forgot what we were doing for a second.
A game-changing animated blockbuster
starring two S&L alums.
Andrew Jupin.
Shrek?
It is Shrek for five big points.
Nice.
I like that, yes.
Looks like you're living in the swamp now, Chris.
Oh, yeah.
He's bathing in my shit.
Oh, yeah, take that Chris.
That outhouse was right next to there.
I was watching the trailer.
That looks like almost like a fun movie, you know?
Like, because it's mostly about the fun fairy tale jokes in the trailer.
It's like, comes to your movie about these fairy tale jokes.
Oh, look, look at the, the Pinocchio's up to that guy.
Oh, sure.
It leaves out all the classically repulsive lines like, my taint is cracking.
And then they're just singing the macarena.
Yeah, yeah.
There's no smash mouse that is whatsoever.
All right, round two, here we go.
No, wait, sorry, no smash mouth in the trailer.
You're kidding?
Yeah, it was an early trailer.
It was like coming May.
It was like nobody knew what this thing was.
Fuck, dude, that was a fucking different time.
Thank you very much.
It was a pre-Shrek America.
You know what I mean?
God, if I could go back.
It was my America.
It was pre-Shrek America.
If I could change one thing.
No gross little swamp monsters.
What are you changing, dude?
I would not stop 9-11 or Hitler or anything.
I would stop Shrek.
That's the move.
All right, round two.
On that somber note, Game Master's Klu!
A star-studded underwater pot boiler
starring a New Jersey 80s musician who had a brief dalliance as a hunky actor.
Underwater War Pot Boiler, by the way.
It's a war movie.
Andrew Juppin?
U-571.
Ooh, there is.
Starring, you bet your ass, John Bon Jovi.
John Bon Jovi is in it.
Can I tell you how I saw that movie in theaters really quickly?
because it came out
I was still underage
to see R-rated movies at the time
and Gladiator was out
and we were like
all right let's buy tickets to U-571
and then sneak into the Gladiator
and then the prick fucking manager
the theater had like a cut through
middle hallway where you get from one end to the other
without going back out to the lobby
so we were like oh buy U-571 over here
walk across Gladiator over here
this dude cuts us off at the pass
with his fucking hands on his hips like
which theater you think you're going to
and we were like you 5-7-1
and he goes yeah
and if I catch you in the other one
I'm calling the fucking cops
what are they gonna
do the police
get the police officers in here
a month later that guy would become
my fucking assistant manager
at the multiplex and he was one of
the biggest fucking pricks
I've ever met in my life
it sounds like it is
did he remember you oh there's the theater
the theater jumper.
No, he didn't, but it turned out
his fucking older brother took my sister
to prom, like back in the 90s.
And I was like, all right, well,
your brother, you know, he seemed like
a nice dude, but you, sir,
fucking suck a dog's dick.
You're practically family.
Kind of saw the Connor O'Malley's character
and I saw the TV glow a little bit.
I'll take your word for it.
For anyone who's seen it and anyone knows
of Conor O'Malley.
He's really fun of that movie. Here we go.
Round three.
Um.
Game Master's Kalu.
Whoa.
A semi-autobiographical love letter to 70s rock by a writer-director who lived and reported it, man.
Andrew Jupin again.
Almost famous?
It's almost famous.
Look at that.
Chris, what's wrong?
Is your headphones working?
Chris was, to be fair, to be fair.
Chris raised his hand.
He did raise his head right after Andrew.
This is what happens every time is he gets the Shrek thing and then,
Eric starts acting like his donkey.
That's right, I'm your donkey.
You know, that one, though, because it was like 70s rock, semi-autobiographical for his second dudes,
you know what else was around that time?
I think it was 2001.
Was that rock star movie?
I was almost thinking of Detroit Rock City as well.
That was a few years before, I think.
Yeah, like 98 maybe or something like that.
Did anyone watch the director's cut of almost films that ever have?
Untitled?
It's great.
Is it great?
Is it great?
Is it?
Yeah.
It's been a
long time
since I've even
watched
almost famous
in general
for the long time.
It's been a long
time and I remember
being like
like eh.
Wow,
really?
Oh,
wow.
At the time
but it's been
a while.
I love that movie.
I hadn't
rewatched it
in ages and
then when the
untitled
cut came out
on 4K
I bought it
and watched that
for the first time
I think it
might even be
better than the theatrical
cut.
It's a really
good movie.
Yeah.
It's long as fuck
but yeah.
It is very long.
More Foffman at least?
that's a good call
I'm not sure
Is there more Gandalf
There's definitely more Gandalf
Absolutely
And talking trees for sure
All right last round
Here it comes
Christophiles shows up
Oh hello
Stillwater
Oh let's get on the tour bus
With James Fallon
Here it comes
Round four
Game Masters
Klu
A Clintonian
Fable about the excesses
of congressional
hearings and oversight this time
the contender
it's the contender oh man yeah
a clean sweep for andrewin that
that's great sweep look at that
that put Andrew within six points
wow Chris Cabin
there you go so there you go
Eric might be able to help
yeah I'm catching up
you catch it up
so what lie what does Lebedee
the VHS trailer game
because it's lies because the opening right
it's like what lies beneath
oh sure
because it's full of lies
and the game is rigged
now I'm guessing by
Eric and Steve's reactions
this was the first time you'd seen this movie
I think my mom rented it and I was kind of
in it out of the room when it was on
yeah that's that's one way to watch it
miss anything uh 20 years did you did you see it in theaters or no oh yeah i saw it in theater
fuck yeah see it must have been Andrew or Chris because you guys have been harping on this movie
we've been doing this show 14 years or more than that who the fuck knows how long yeah and
we've been mentioning this is going to be an episode i think since we started the show
yes and here it is finally i saw this in theaters this start uh this opened um the week i started working
at the multi-plank. So I started working on like a Tuesday or something, doing like, you know,
early training stuff. And then it opened on that Friday. So this was one of the first ever,
like, I got to see it for free excuses I have in my life. Um, so I remember just being like,
oh man, how great is this? Like, I'm going to be able to see all these free movies. How fucking
cool Harrison Ford, Robert Zemeckis, Michelle Pfeiffer in this movie. Awesome. Oh, man, was I
let down. Boy, oh boy, was I let down. And I was letting everybody know about it on that staff.
how shitty I thought the movie was
and also the fact that the trailer
100% tells you everything in the movie
it tells you every single turn
it confirms every single mystery
all in this trailer and I'm going off about it
and the fucking not the same manager
the big cheese guy
this old fucker
this old New England fucker whose name
so perfectly was Dick
just hears me going off about it and just starts
laying into me and I don't know if he had even seen it
or what the deal was or if it was like
besmirching the product on the floor
or what? But he starts going up,
oh yeah, oh yeah, you think it's so bad?
What was so bad about it? Tell me what was so bad about it.
Do you think you could have done a better job?
Oh, that's always agree.
I love that.
Yep.
Dude, and I just went, maybe.
Yeah, why not?
Oh, rest in piss, dick.
You think you could write a better movie than clock, Greg?
Good fucking luck.
What is that mystery?
this was the first thing,
the first screenplay Clark Gregg had ever been hired to write.
And I don't know why.
Just explain to kids at home who Clark Gregg is, right?
It's like the one guy that shows up in all the Marvel movies that wears a suit and is like,
I'm from Shields, right?
Yes.
Yeah, Agent, whatever, from agents of Shield.
He's mostly an actor.
He's appeared in tons and tons of stuff.
He wrote three movies, this one.
Oh, my God.
What was that middle one?
That was a fun middle one he did.
A choke.
Choke, right.
I remember being not good.
I don't think I saw it.
It was Rockwell and it's a Chuck Polokanehack.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Yes, indeed.
And then he did Trust Me in 2013, which is, as Andrew pointed out to me earlier,
he directed it, he directed it, he wrote it, he starred in it.
I have no idea what this is.
Exactly.
Thank you.
Exactly.
It's from like 2013.
He plays.
a like talent agent.
Yeah, it's like an industry comedy.
It's an indie industry comedy.
Well, it's interesting.
This movie, apparently a documentary filmmaker,
Sarah Kornatchian, adapted a personal experience
with the paranormal as a script treatment
featuring a retirement age couple dealing
with a restless but compassionate spirits.
Compassionate.
DreamWorks bought that.
They're like, hey, Clark, Greg,
Why don't you figure it out?
Wow.
Okay.
So this lady's fucking husband killed someone.
Exactly.
Well, not so compassionate to spirit.
Well, wait.
Who's dick did he hand job?
What?
How did that happen?
I think he saw fucking like Bobby Zemeckis like, you know,
push a lady off a bridge under the cover of night or something.
Hey, I saw that.
He was like, hey, you want to write what lies beneath?
And like, that was how it started.
I don't, I don't understand.
end it. Like you figured there would have been like, I don't know, some TV episodes or maybe
he'd written some other things before, but just to be handed screenplay duty for a big, what
do we say? It was like a hundred million dollar movie from Universal with two huge stars
and a huge director. What the fuck? A hundred million for what? Yeah, where did that money get
flushed? Dude, I mean, honestly, Harrison Ford, you're getting the deal together for this movie in
the late 90s, right? So, like, he's still, you know, huge powerhouse, Harrison Ford.
She was only a few years off from Catwoman and, like, well, she had that big Robert Redford
movie. What was that, Chris? Was she not close and personal? Yeah, she was. Yeah, yeah. So she's still,
you know, a known. They're great stars. These are good stars in your movie, but what are you doing
with that money besides giving it to the talent. You're just doing CGI shots that you don't need
to do. You also had to pay to get Miranda Otto from Australia.
in a crate.
Oh, sure.
The quarantine time
that takes for her
to come from Australia
back to America.
And you have to buy
all those big leaves
that she eats
and the bamboo.
But Steve is correct.
This is the time
when there was part
of every production budget
is saving someone
from the wilds of Australia.
And they have to act
in all of our movies now.
I think I know
what the Clark Greig thing is
because I had,
I remember he did show up
in a lot of David
Mamet movies. Yes. Like, he was his guy for a little bit there. He's in the state
in Maine. He's in things change. So are you saying David Mamet
like, threw this away. It was like, here, why don't you do it? Yeah. Well, because Mamet was
doing fucking, uh, uh, what's it called writeups, like, uh, tuneups. Yeah, I have punch
ups on scripts for all throughout the 90s, like constantly. Uh, so I, I would bet he
gets one. He's like, Clark, I know you wrote a few things. Why don't you take a hand on this? You know,
Bobby Z's going to do it. Who knows?
Right. Yeah. Hey, Clark, you know how
you're always like pushing scripts my way?
And I throw them in the garbage immediately.
Well, here's one that you can write.
Well, the person that had the treatment or whatever that Steve was alluding to,
Sarah Kurno-chan had an interesting career.
She directed Marjo, a big documentary from the 70s.
Right movie.
She wrote nine and a half weeks,
Summersby as well.
Oh, boy.
Just let her write it.
I don't know.
Yeah, so she's got actual screenplay,
experience. I don't understand this. If she wrote it, something might happen within the first
140 pages as opposed to nothing happening and then a little something happened. It looks
like she had a lot of writers. She was someone brought in perhaps. There's a lot of writers on these
movies. So I don't know. Somebody had to. John Sales was doing it for so long for everybody. Somebody
had to take the load off. So you had to get people like man. And yeah, I guess you throw this too.
like I don't know why they didn't
I bet you probably because the original version
was good and was supposed to be
for like a $20 million movie
and not a $100 million movie
those are two different animals
and maybe it ended
ended 25 minutes earlier that would have helped
Oh my God that would that be so
I mean like again
I'm just
I mean you're a Hitchcock expert
Andrew are a lot of Hitchcock movies
two hours and 10 minutes I don't believe so
No I mean some of them
some of them hit that I think like
North by Northwest is over two
But vertigo is definitely over two
Forever.
Yeah.
Vertigo is definitely over two
which this movie like kind of references
But the one that this movie references the most
Psycho, that's under two hours.
I think Psycho is like 20 minutes shorter
than this movie or something like that.
Rear window is a tight
There's a lot of rear window in this movie.
Yep.
Yeah.
I mean and that's like what's weird
It's like him playing the hits.
Oh buck 50 on rear window.
Yeah.
It's like him playing all the Hitchcock hits
and I'm like, I don't know, man, I already have these movies on DVD.
Like, I can just go home and enjoy them because they're better made.
I mean, this isn't like an ill-made movie, but like, you know, craft-wise anyway.
I have a question.
Maybe this could start.
Yeah.
Does this movie let Harrison Ford down or does Harrison Ford let the movie down?
Because I think he is pretty bad in this.
And I don't know if it's like miscast, didn't care.
both are bad
I think
it's really
under
horrifically underwritten
might be part of it
I think he's okay
in it
I think the screenplay
does a disservice
to him
because at the
like at the very end
it's like
hey out of nowhere
now you're a fucking maniac
and he's got to play
maniac
and I don't know
that he does that
so well
at least he doesn't do
because that happens
a lot in like
especially like
these 90s thrillers
that we talk about
when the guy
who's been normal
the whole movie
turns into a maniac
at least he doesn't do, well, give the lady a prize.
She's figuring it out.
It starts to weave off and scatten for no reason.
It gets cartoonish and ridiculous.
Zemeckis is out of his element here.
And why are you trying to do the Hitchcock stuff
when your contemporary Brian De Palma is doing it much better?
Of course.
But like, I mean, also his, there's no color to this movie.
It looks like fucking bland as L.
A lot of blues, a lot of sea foam greens and what have you.
Silvers and whites and gray.
and it's fucking disgusting.
Just like
if nothing happened,
you don't remember everything
because it just feels like
a breeze going through a window.
It's a ghost movie.
That's why it's got to be blue
and silver and dark.
What if?
When nothing is happening,
there may or may not be a little
fucking ghost face
somewhere off in the CGI.
Boy,
that shit is just so totally
uninteresting.
It's like they took that
the thing from a,
remember in the mummy
when they're getting chased
by that,
sandstorm and the mummy's fucking faces
in it. They do that at like the
graveyard scene at the end of this movie
the last shot of the movie is
yes, Michelle Pfeiffer putting a flower
on this lady's grave and then her face
if you look the right way
is in the snow
and it's like I did not
notice that at all. It did not notice that
at all. It makes the movie worse now that I know
that. It does make the movie
worse. A little like cinematic
magic eyes or whatever. It's so
stupid. Like
I just, I hate that touch so much
and that's the thing like Bobby Z
he has always been like a moth
to a flame when it comes to new
Cinematech and I will always respect
him for that because someone's got to be out there
trying this shit, right? Like someone
had to be out there trying that
garbage motion capture for that
Beowulf that he did so we could get
like the Irishman 15, 20 years later you know what I mean
Colin, Oi Boles
Oh look me Tallywacker may be falling out of me
Robs. Oi me clang
are out. Oh, help me
my clangers. That is a
That's what's beneath. That's what's beneath
Swinging about. I mean, I guess we start
with, it's a couple
Michelle Piper is, wakes up
in a bathtub. Get ready for the bath
the haunted bathtub man. That's what I thought
this movie was the entire
until today. I thought it was the haunted bathtub
movie. I'm like, ooh, baby. It is.
I don't know how you argue
it isn't. Eric. I really don't.
Like that's where the ghost mostly hangs out as well.
Not only Michelle Pfeiffer,
but the ghost is mostly there as well.
It would make sense if you find out that at the end,
he had killed her in the bathtub.
Sure.
Yes.
And that's sort of like what you know what I mean?
Like why the bathtub?
He did.
Does he?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He did kill her, right?
Yeah, he drowned her in that bathtub.
Oh, he does.
He does that big story about, oh, I, uh, I, you know,
she had taken pills.
Yeah.
And there's way more, way more gravity.
And, and, and to that.
scene. There's way more to that scene than the turn at the end. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah, the
pills thing is the fake thing, but I would have preferred. He just calls 911. There it is. That's
the ending of the movie instead of doing the turn. Because I'd rather have this just be like a spooky
domestic thriller versus going all the way of like, I'm going to kill you now. It would also go be more
in line with the idea what the movie is, I think, trying to be about, which is like, trying to
to turn like emptiness syndrome into a thriller like yes which is weird but like if you're going
to do that it would be smarter to end that with nothing is wrong we just have a new life now
and like you don't have to keep switching different kinds of lives but because they do this
insane thing at the end of it you're like oh it's all bullshit fuck it get it out of it's well because
you do that you spend so much of the is it or isn't it and just like it is dude it's
it's obviously and that's where you veer away from hitchcock
because Hitchcock would never be like
and of course it's a ghost
Right
Like the ambivalence would be there
Through and through
You would not have this
CGI corpse coming out
And Paulin Harrison
Like it just
The third act of this movie is one of the biggest
Like script collapses
I've rewatched as of late
I could not
Like I had not rewatched this since theater
So it was like
I remembered the gist of it
But man this third
act garbage town but yes so empty nest syndrome good call wait okay what she's waking up in a bathtub uh she
is claire michelle fiver is claire spencer her husband is norman is everyone oh norman is everybody
paying attention oh wow their dirter is k or actually her dirter is kately uh who is about to go to
college that whole thing about the dead ex husband means nothing to nobody and i don't know what
it it's just confusing because it's just like
They're using it like photos of him early on and whatever to try to set up like this mystery around Michelle Pfeiffer's character.
They're also like, oh, does she have skeletons in the closet?
You know what I mean?
And like all of this, the movie's like so obsessed with all these weird cryptic redirects or whatever.
But all of that comes to nothing.
This daughter, I mean, she has more scenes in the trailer than she has in this movie.
There's like deleted scenes of her in it.
Maybe what's happening is her husband did die, crossed over, became a ghost.
and then this Norman's victim, they got together on a train, a ghost train, right?
And they said, let's criss-cross and swap hauntings.
Oh, there we go. I'll haunt a total stranger and you can haunt my family.
Oh, I see. Oh, I like that. And in the middle of it, these ghosts may or may not be having sex with one.
I like that.
Ectoplasm.
Yeah, basically she's about to go to college that day.
Right. Harrison Ford's tried to get a morning sex going, but it's a little too late for morning sex. You know what I mean? Everybody's up and around.
Yeah, like, one, listen, the coffee's on. The coffee's on. Your daughter's pack in a fucking cardboard box with other belongings.
After someone showers morning sex is no longer morning sex. It's sort of a dude.
Because you would have to re-showers your theory here.
Yeah, I don't buy this. These people are freaks. I mean, like later in this night, they hear the fucking from across the room.
competition. It's a good old-fashioned
fuck off. Let's fucks! Here we go.
You're going to get louder. You're going to
get louder. You think these people
are like, oh yeah, the daughter's in. We shouldn't fuck.
That's right. That's, you know.
Oh, they fuck. But they do, but they don't fuck. But they don't fuck.
They don't fuck here. He's like, oh, I guess I'll go walk
the dog and walk off this rejection.
Yeah, he's like walking the dog and beating off at the same.
Yeah. You take
one. I'll take one.
He jerks off at the pier.
He's walking down the street with the dog, but he's kind of like hunched over.
Like, oh, my God, the erection.
A very uncharacteristic of a Harrison Ford character, he turns out one of the biggest
reveals in this movie, honestly, because he comes, he does the very creepy fucking
arm around your neck, good morning kind of thing.
And then after the rejection, he's like, fine, I'll go walk the dog.
And he turns around.
And he's wearing this Rolling Stones t-shirt?
That was surprising.
That was shocking and weird.
But then he wraps the dog's leash around his penis and tosses a tennis ball.
Go get it.
Cooper, hey, Coupe, go get it.
And it's not stop until I see purple down there.
It's got to be nice and tight.
Nice and tight for daddy.
God damn it.
It's a comedy show.
Exactly.
This dog is very convenient when he's around and he just is written out of the movie for,
20s of minutes.
Just like the fucking psychiatrist.
That guy disappears.
Dude, the friend.
Show Morton himself.
I couldn't believe it.
The great door board.
She's also at this moment
when he does the arm wrap around.
She is spying
on the neighbors next door,
Miranda Otto and James Remar.
And she's like, oh, they're fighting again or whatever.
And it's like, lady, the empty nest
hasn't even happened yet.
And you've already picked up the most obnoxious hobby.
spying on the neighbors through the window
because you have nothing better to do.
Remar innocent, by the way.
He's got my favorite thing in the whole movie,
which we'll get to.
He looks good, too, in this.
He does.
The long hair, the professor.
James Remar.
Like, how often does that guy get to play in academic?
It was very awesome.
Very awesome.
He came in Miranda Otto just came back from honeymooning in Tokyo.
We actually joined our little honeymoon there.
We won't be bombing.
Can't be bombing that.
Kyoto.
Oh, Kyoto. That's right. Yeah. It's very important to the Japanese people that we don't bomb the state of Maine, or Vermont, rather. It's also where I teach college English or whatever the fuck I'm doing in this movie. Not enough remar. I'll say that. Nearly enough remire.
Temeckis clearly knows about one 900 scumbag, though, because he plays him as you think he's a scumbag. Here's supposed to think he's the bad guy. And of course, he is not.
It's kind of amazing. He kind of does the reverse actually, give the lady what she wants, what she's won.
everything because like the first hour of the movie he's this big red herring and dark and brooding
and the second the air comes out of that balloon he is the nicest guy anyone's ever met he's just
like hey he has a go like he's like making jokes he's smiling all the time i think that might be
kind of like what it's like to be around james remor in person right you're like oh fuck like
here's this dude i've seen him play a tough sleezo in you know everything under the sun almost
and then he's actually like a sweet guy okay i totally buy it i totally buy it i totally
that. And you know, this whole thing with Michelle
Bifers, Claire, just like snooping
on the neighbors, it's just like,
if you, if this poor woman wants to cry
in her yard, let her cry in her
yard. Why are you coming over bothering her?
God, that fence is nowhere near big enough, I guess.
She's, she's trying to
get over it. She's looking
through it, looking through knot holes.
You are crazy.
It's a freak. Like, they're both freaks.
Like, the, you
said, like, the, him coming behind her
with the arm like that. For all we know,
that's part of the play.
That is part of their whole thing.
It would not surprise me.
Like a choke slams his wife.
An activator? Is that a technical term?
No, I just made that.
I enjoyed it, though.
Well, I don't know all your weird sex blogs that you read, Steve.
I'm reading nothing but sex blogs.
I live in 2008 and I read nothing but sex blog.
But you also...
Steve's sex tumblers.
Because it's now with sex documentaries, right?
For documentaries
It's like weird British TV shows
Now you could have just done
You could have started this movie
And it's you could have started it
Right at like the scene where she's like
Oh boy the house is empty
Isn't it? Let's get fucking
Because you just have this dumbass
Quick drop off scene with this dirter
We're meeting the fucking freshman dorm roommate
Are you kidding me movie?
Yeah and the roommate's name is Beatrice or something
We're giving everyone
all these like 1950s names
to be like Hitchcock, right?
Oh, good call, yeah.
Because Warren is another one.
Teddy, no one's called that anymore.
Templeton, who's it?
There's no Templeton left.
Nia Templeton.
She, yeah, so she drops her off the kid.
She's sobbing on the way home.
She's like, oh, I almost made it.
Which is, you know, I get it. That's fun.
I think that's part of the thing that it really sucks.
I mean, like, if you're going to say why this is an
empty nest thriller. It's because you have to see
her say goodbye and she has to see her
be like, hey, I'm
upset about this. I don't know how to deal with this.
I don't think you need to see it at all, dude.
She fucking starts talking about it in
this bedroom scene. This is two hours
and ten minutes, Chris Cabin. We got to cut something.
You don't need it. You kind of don't
I see what Chris is saying, but you kind of don't need it
at all. You don't even need the daughter to
be played by an actor. Just be like, oh, ever since
Caitlin lives. Yeah, she left with this
morning. If you're going to relate to it so much,
I think you do need to see her. She needs to be
someone you know and a character a little bit.
If you want to talk about shit, you could
fucking cut. How about the 15 minutes
of going through the hallway before the scare comes?
How about the fucking 25 minutes
of just roaming in the fucking front
of the yard. Too much suspense
for you. Yeah. That's all
just heart beating suspense. There's
a couple of real pulse pounding
shit in this movie. I know. Really just too much.
I had to take a break. I had to stop
like 45 minutes in. It was so thrilling.
So scary. It was so
spooky scary stuff.
what was it going to say about all that
the kid oh the hallway
the tension there
oh there's made mention at some point about like
oh yeah we bought this old house
and we've gutted it and we're working through this
remodeling and like a cheap
lifetime movie we've been talking about
recently like the Renault's
done this is a gorgeous house
you see every inch of this house there's not
one room where it's like plastic sheets
on the wall or we're still painting that
or whatever this house is finished
there's like some like we're trying to get
some psychology in Harrison
for it's like it's his father's old house that like
they weren't with the dad
and then eventually like he went under the thumb
of the dad to just follow with his footsteps
and then he became kind of a daddy's boy
which is kind of interesting
but it's not enough in the movie
again like there's so much of
there's so many scenes in Michelle Pfeiffer
just like again looking at a fucking hallway
and the dog comes oh
as opposed to like let's explore
his character right
She's jealous. Let's explore that, too.
Like, let's tell me stuff.
His character is like, oh, my God, my father is dead.
It's so crazy.
And it's like, you're like 60.
Come on.
He's supposed to be dead.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the whole thing with Harrison Ford, you would wish then, if that's what you're actually going to play that up, have him.
There's scenes with him with other guys.
Is he being trying to be super dominant or is he super submissive around those guys?
Sure.
Like, you can play things like that up.
But like, all, it's just Harrison,
being normal guy like for the most part and then when somebody says like your father he gets a little
tense that's about it but we're we're we're marinating in this scenery of vermont for so long with
their lives to be like this is just an ordinary couple which you kind of do want you to like let your
guard down these are just nice people and then this shit starts happening but there's too much
of it and there's too much shit that happens so michel they drop the kid off michel fiver wants
to have sex they've kind of been talking about having sex all day uh harrison ford is working
on his, sexually working on his computer.
His black ass Apple 2000 laptop.
He looks hot as fuck here, right?
No shirt, just the underwear on type of this thing.
I was like, just a minute I'm working on my paper.
And she's like, oh, okay.
She picks up some science book.
And she's like, ooh, this is interesting.
A bunch of sailor cells gang divided a virginal cheerleader cell.
Yeah.
Yeah, talk about gangs to.
Oh, shit.
Now here it comes.
Yep, yeah.
You're going to get it.
Yep.
Here it goes.
And he's just like, you want to fool around?
And she's like, yep.
I mean, they're so horny at the beginning of this movie.
It's, like, it's been so long since you've seen, like,
horny middle-aged people in a movie.
I was like, what's wrong with them?
What is wrong with them?
Usually in a movie nowadays, middle-aged people are just, like, on the phone.
Like, can you believe it?
Spider-Man just went by the window.
They're flirted.
That's it.
That's it.
That's a rap on the middle-aged.
Hello, Bob.
Yeah, hey, Tom.
Do you have any infinity stones?
No.
Okay, I'll talk to you later.
Do you have any infinity stones?
Gang, divide my cheerleader.
Have you?
Oh, you've been looking at my history, haven't you?
Yeah, exactly.
I don't want that.
I don't want that in our lives, Michelle.
Yes, don't look at his history.
You might not like what you find.
Exactly.
That's right.
But, yeah, so they start making out.
And wouldn't you know, you just hear Miranda Otto getting railed from next door there.
And then this is like she gets up like, oh my God, like they're really going at it, Harrison Ford's like, you want me to close the window?
No, it's a sex free for all. Yeah, Remar's giving her the re-ram today.
The re-ram. The re-ram. You know, I was in the Warriors once. I was a young sexy man of the Warriors, Miranda Otto.
That's doing anything for you? Yeah, I once wore a vest without anything on underneath it.
I was kind of the spicy one, you know.
They didn't know what to do with me.
I was kind of the rough one.
They didn't, I didn't fit in to what they wanted to do.
And then, let's, ask your dad about the Warriors.
He'd really be excited about it.
But you know what?
I can be a good father to you.
I was a father to the world's most favorite serial killer, Dexter.
I was a beautiful father to a beautiful boy.
So she says, you know, leave it open.
He goes, think we can take him.
And then my God, you want to talk about stuff you really do not get to see in major motion pictures like this anymore.
They get down on the bed, they're making out or whatever, and he's like, you know, we're going to get into this or whatever.
And he goes down, out of frame.
He comes back up.
Her leg is now over his shoulder.
Yeah.
And he says, and speak up.
As in like, I'm about to go downtown.
You start yelling in ecstasy.
Wow.
So Rimar can hear it across the.
the way. I want to hear it from the crowd.
Come on. Let's go.
All right. Let's do this really quick. It won't
take this very long. A list
of Harrison Ford characters who do or don't
eat out.
Ooh.
So now we know
Norman Spencer does. Strike
out all those Jack Ryans. Get all
those Jack Ryans. Write the fuck out. I would even say
Indeed probably doesn't either.
It's the 30s, dude. He's like, come on
Mary and it's time for your pleasure.
He does not.
That's fair. The
The president in the Air Force One also does not.
Hans Solo does.
Hans Solo eats out.
Yes, absolutely does.
Rick Deckerd eats robo pussy.
I only go in for that artificial tale.
You see what I'm saying.
If he remembers how to regarding Henry does.
In the beginning of the movie, he does afterwards, he's like, what's that?
He might relearn.
I don't know.
I have a scene with a long time.
might relearn. I used the
munchbox so hard and then I got shot
in the head and I forgot that I liked doing
it. What do we
think about President James Marshall
from Air Force One? That's on, I feel like that's
in the line. I could go. I'm going to get you
off on my plane.
I mentioned him already.
I said, I said, I don't
think he does. Yeah. You know who does?
Richard Kimball. Oh, yes.
Yeah. I did eat out my wife.
That's why he's got the
the whole beard there.
You know what?
The guy in Morning Glory probably did as a younger pup,
but not these days.
The one you meet in the movie does not.
Oh, the newscasting comedy?
Yeah, you're totally right.
He got tired of it in like the late 80s and gave it up.
Sensitive cop in witness is definitely eating out Amish Kelly McGillis.
That's definitely happening.
No question about that.
I think actually, doesn't he go downtown?
Yeah, he shows her what electricity is by going down.
on her. I think
doesn't he? No, I don't think he's going downtown
but he's, the guy he plays
in six day, seven nights, that guy
goes downtown, definitely. I'll tell
you one yes is frantic, one no is the
conversation. Oh, that guy
in the conversation, no, he's doing,
that guy's doing weird stuff
to ladies and paying for it. By the way, that's
why he's so frantic, he can't find his wife, he wants
to eat her out. Yes. Couple, you know what,
couple the conversation with his, also his character
in Apocalypse now, I don't think does it.
I think of the Coppola, the Coppola fords, he does not.
I thought there might be a list of this online.
I googled Harrison Ford Conalingis.
There's not much, not much here.
We're making it right now.
This is it.
The only thing I got is Harrison Ford nude scenes.
They're not that nude.
Oh, but no.
What lies beneath is all over this website?
What about the gruff cop from Hollywood homicide?
Oh, that guy does.
I think so.
Yeah, that's a yes.
I'm pretty sure on that.
That's definitely a yes.
Excellent.
This ad on this website says click her to find glorials.
Ooh, Eric, there you go.
It's got quite a provocative image on this website right here.
Oh, I thought it was a provasic image on that website you're going to say.
Brought you by provasic.
So we're at minute four of this film, which is good.
We could have skipped to the ending, not much happened.
So, yeah, like she started.
I mean, like right here is what she starts.
like he goes away he's at work doing cell division or whatever the fuck he's doing
a big vague whatever for whatever genetic research this dude's doing in this movie man he might
have cured cancer and that's worth at least two women dead oh for sure easily yeah that's fair
that's fair there's like some stuff where like the dork starts opening up on her this is when
she has her big Miranda Otto scene just almost tense like she hears Miranda like
do you hear Miranda Otto crying in front of the fence
and she like pushes her eye up against the hole there
and then you see Miranda Otto's
big eye coming back at you. Right.
This might have got to jump in the theater possibly.
I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't.
I don't remember either way. But like, man,
it's not even timed well. It's not even timed well.
Like we just kind of like guys now. It did well. This made almost
$300 million. People have must have been good word of mouth, Chris.
There must have been good word of mouth.
Beat the X-Men, by the way.
It's incredible thing.
To Eric's point, you know what the word of mouth is?
Holy shit, Harrison Ford fucking eats pussy in this movie.
Let's get to the theater.
Take the note. Let's do that in new movies.
Exactly, dude. Dial of destiny, he should have been trying to figure it out.
Dial a doggy style, dude. Let's fucking do it.
Sex back in movies.
American Graffiti? Yes, no. Maybe so.
Oh, that guy, that guy definitely.
Look, you know what, if you've asked it.
It's the 50s.
Hang on. Yeah, that's a good point.
It's the 50s.
Yeah, yeah.
They didn't invent it yet.
Yeah, he's like, he is a cowboy.
He's trying to be a Texas guy, so probably not.
That's fair.
Force 10 from Navarone.
That's a no.
Burt Riddles didn't come down with the tablets about how to eat pussy.
All right, let me tell you everything.
It's 19771.
We got a new thing.
I just invented it.
Gather around, followers.
All right.
Got these rules.
I was talking to a real burning
I was talking to a real burning bush if you know what I mean
Yeah you got to put your tongue in up
You got to swirl it a little there
And yeah
I'll tell you the next nine steps tomorrow
Yep your tongue in Tabaska first
Tomorrow
All right yeah I'm uh wait
What's that Italian guy saying? No it's not gay
How can it be gay
It's literally the opposite of gay
That Italian guy
But so yeah
But she's like shaking with Miranda Otto
Miranda Otto is like cryptically crying.
She's like, he's, I can't, with him, I don't, oh, what am I saying?
And she just runs away.
She's like, oh, God, he's back.
And like, she runs in the house and Remar pulls in with the fucking geo that he drives to the university or whatever.
Rule for spying on your neighbors.
Couple of things here.
Don't do it.
One.
No, one.
Wait till the sun goes down.
Oh, so you're pro.
You're pro.
You should do it.
But, dude, listen, there's two people on the show that are homeowners, and you're allowed to do whatever you want your home that you own.
Oh, so, but I'm asking, you do look at your neighbors or not?
I don't have any neighbors that I can really see.
I mean, if I look over, you know, off my, my balcony over here, I've seen pokes.
These guys in the city, you know, the city style.
Here's what they do all night long.
Ooh, the bright lights of the big city.
Let me see what I can find, right?
I'll do it just doing
Andrew this go this backfires at night as well
when she's spying on remar with the with the giant
rear window binoculars rule number two
rule number two only use the eyes that God gave you
yeah any sort of big ass you know binoculars
that's how she gets caught at night you're totally right
you need a book in your hand you're like oh I was reading a book
you know what if he is supposed to being like uh-huh
or adjust these goggles
Use a telescope and be like
Oh no, I was trying to find the fucking sky
At least, that's a good excuse at least
Hold on, excuse me, are you Mercury? Sorry
You're your anus, sorry
I'll look for Mercury up in the sky
But she
So she is freaked out here
You know, she's paranoid about
She wants to go, you know, investigate
She thinks there's, you know, domestic violence happening here
And Harrison Ford's like, you know,
why don't we try minding our own business
you ever think about that yeah
like he doesn't want in on it at all
mainly because I feel like if this character had less
going on at work he might be a little more intrigued
but he's working on the big paper
and he's got to give a speech because it's going to be a preview
of his big paper
and it's the thing that's going to stop people
from thinking about his daddy
it's going to they're going to think about him now
it's kind of great there's this one moment where
like I think they just kind of get into bed
and it's early on where she's like
he's like I'll never believe what happened to be Claire
I was a that guy at my office
I really respect he came up and he's like
are you Norman Spencer's son
and I'm like yeah he's like
did you write that paper he's like
and he just thought that I wrote the paper
when I didn't tell him my dad did
she's like you're so sensitive about that
and he gets like really pissed
like it's actually the best
forward acting in the movie it's all
underneath his face he's fucking
furious and he's just like well I guess
I should watch that then.
That's the movie that I don't mean.
But also, like, if this is so sensitive to you,
maybe don't completely follow in your father's footsteps
to the point of which you take a position at his university
that he taught at and then renovate his house.
Yeah, that's a good call.
Because especially, like, doesn't she say something about
they used to live in Boston or something like that
and had like a great life there?
And then it was like, got to go teach a daddy's university now.
Exactly.
Like, he's basically doing the,
the Hunter Fieri
school of nepotism
where he's just following
in his father's footsteps
just sitting there
on the sidelines
going on drivers
dives and dives
you know what's good
Eric knows what's talking about
I'm all about
Hunter Fieri
my guy
is this kid getting in
on the triple D is that right
he's getting on the triple D
he's rolling out
he's rolling out
he's rolling out he's rolling in
he's everywhere now
he's even on the guy's grocery games
if you could believe it
if you could believe it
I just like
Fuck me. I could go into work with your father every day like that. I don't know.
Bizarre.
Someone's got to wear the crown. Somebody's got to put it on one of these days.
That's true. So Ford is like, all right, listen, you know, he works at the university.
I'll ask around the psych department, see if, you know, see, get a, get a temperature here.
What do people feel about this fella? She's like, all right, that sounds good. No, it's not. It's not good enough at all.
She's got to go over the next morning under the auspices of, oh, here's a welcome to the neighborhood basket. Get the fuck.
off my property.
I'm surprised there wasn't like a recorder in there.
You know,
some type of audio equipment to try to figure out what's happening next door.
You wear a wire.
Hey, are you wearing a wire?
No, I just asked that for all visitors that come on my property.
But so she's like getting it together.
She goes over there.
No one's answering the door.
But uh-oh, there's this bloody shoe on the porch.
And it's like, bum, bum, bum, another.
clue here
nothing in the movie
it's never even explained what the blood
where the blood's from or
excuse me when they tried to
contact the beyond it's very important
when they have the wine mom
Ouija it's
it's very important
but it does it's you know that's
and that's the end of the shoe
like the shoe never comes back
oh no that's nothing that's the most
I mean really with all this time
the one thing you would think is that this wouldn't be
so tight, like, it wouldn't
just be so completely like, this
happens because this happens and this happens, like
it's all superstructured like that.
But it is, they just take so fucking
long to do everything. They take so long
to do everything. And how derange it?
Michelle Fiver, just stealing your neighbor's dirty
shoe. She left outside
because it was dirty. And if
I do that, it's a huge problem, but if she does it,
it's totally fine. Because she's not
immediately putting it to her nose.
She's not doing that like that. You've got
to learn to bring it home first. You
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
That's true.
But, like, while that, you know, is, you know, she leaves the basket, goes away,
this annoying friend Jody shows up.
This is a character that if it were not a, like, a spook house movie,
if this was like a domestic thriller, this is the equivalent of, like,
the upstairs neighbor and single white female that fucking gets it.
Like, this Jody would be found in the lake before credits roll.
That'd be nice.
At least something would happen on page 58 of the fucking movie.
You know what I mean?
She just shows up.
Apparently she's a new divorcee.
You know, she's like, she's also concerned.
There's this very vague car accident that Michelle Pfeiffer was in.
Yeah.
One year ago today that, you know, it's, it's here to, you know,
well, with, you know, Caitlin being gone and it's been a year since the accident.
The twist towards the end is the accident was, I guess, so severe.
She forgot she saw her husband fucking some lady.
Yeah.
And, like, that's, that kind of stuff, if you didn't confirm the existence of ghosts in this movie, that's the kind of shit that you want to leave in here, right?
And it's, you know, you would play that this movie would play out, I believe, like the Hitchcock movie, I believe it's called Suspicion with Carrie Grant.
It's a movie all about this lady's like, is my husband a fucking murderer?
And like the movie leaves like little breadcrumbs along the way to like hint to.
at it one way or another. And like that kind of shit, yeah, like at the end of the movie,
the big reveal would have been her remembering the car accident and kind of going from
there and not so much ghost girl pulling us down to the depths here.
Yes.
But yeah, you know, we got things like fucking, there's a spooky power out as that happens
while she is playing solitaire alone in this house. And then this is where she thinks.
So this is another, this is like the fucking The Simpsons episode here with Bart where like
She sees him loading what looks only to be like a body in the back of this car.
And this is where it's like there's red herrings and then it's like you got to kind of explain why it's not actually the thing they think it is.
Right?
Like this is like it's raining out.
It's the middle of the night.
James Remar has driven this geo.
He's backed it right up to the porch.
So there's like a big tire tread, you know, in the lawn and whatever.
And like he's clearly struggling with a body shaped thing.
To get it in the car
in the middle of the night
Right.
I accidentally knocked over
Miranda Otto's favorite house plan.
Yeah, exactly.
They explained that body scene briefly about how.
Oh, did I miss that?
They do.
Like, Remar.
There's a back and forth.
I think it was with when Mary Miranda Otto's character
comes over for coffee later in the movie,
that they got into a big fight.
She had gone to her mother's house in Providence.
And he was going to come and bring
her stuff.
Oh, that's what that line is?
Yes, this ill-defined sack that looks like a corpse is just her stuff.
Yeah.
That is bullshit.
I do remember that line, Eric.
What's a bunch of fishing poles wrapped up?
That's the only other thing that could be.
Oh, I hear, honey, I have all your fishing poles and cinder blocks wrapped in this canvas bag tied with belts for you.
But when they got, when he got there to drop it off, they got into this conversation, and she decided to go back with him.
And they seemingly now live happening.
ever after. Sure. Yeah, other than this neighbor they got here. And that car that he was using there,
that must have been the back to the future car that lifts up and fucking drives away. It's just like
it immediately fucking just disappears. There's no tire tracks. It's fucking gone, man. It's a ghost car.
It does it more than once. It reappears and disappears to be spooky. It's supposed to be a spooky car.
It's very scary. It's very, I can't say, oh, oh, oh, sad to see. Oh, boy.
Because she sees what's going on here struggling with Miranda Otto's stuff in the trunk.
And she wakes up Harrison Ford.
And, of course, he thinks the fucking house is burning down.
He's freaking out because she's screaming or whatever.
And then, yeah, she's like, look, you've got to see this.
And the fucking car is totally gone.
It's so great that he's like a murder.
Like, this is nothing to do with the haunting.
No.
No, nothing.
It's two separate movies.
Yeah.
James.
Yep.
Because, and the movie changes once that air comes out of the, like, literally because it's like, oh, my God.
is he doing it? It's all this one movie
about that. And when she confronts him
and like, you know, she makes
a fool of herself, that's it.
You know what I mean? And then the movie
has to like reset itself
because it's like, oh, all right. So the red herring
that you assumed was just going to go throughout the entire movie, right?
Like she doesn't, or James Stewart
doesn't change suspects in the middle of rear window.
It's the same neighbor he's suspecting of killing
his wife, Raymond Burr, the whole time.
this movie is like oh it's definitely not
oh there's 70 minutes left
well there's this great well you know what
we're setting up these setups in this movie are so clumsy
and so obvious there is
there's this one part where I think she's
you know again like something happens at the house
like the power goes out you know whatever
whatever bullshit little scares happened
sure she runs over to Harrison Ford's office
and there's these researchers
working with a mouse and
This guy's like, yeah, we're going to give him some halithane.
The woman's like, what's halithane?
And he's like, well, it's interesting.
It's a little paralytic.
It'll knock this mouse out for about five or so minutes.
He'll be awake and be able to see and hear what's going on to him,
but he just won't be able to move a muscle.
Then she goes, could it work on all mammals?
Oh, yes, all mammals.
Don't worry.
It's just like, I fucking know it's coming.
What's this?
What's this?
Oh, this is foreshadow.
Oh, what you do is you say this now,
and that means that later it's going to definitely happen.
And you should listen to right now what's happening.
Chris, it's actually Boreshadow.
Yes, of course.
And then I think you're not wrong.
I'm pretty sure on the same scene.
The next scene he's driving her back.
I can't believe you got bothered me at work with that scare stuff.
And then they're on the bridge and she's like, oh, do you have a cell phone signal?
You know you only get a cell phone signal in the middle of the bridge.
Sure.
Yeah, wherever that falls in this movie.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I honestly, it would be better if they did put like science.
winds up and just be like, do you get it?
Like, go full parody movie.
If you're going to bore me like this, fine.
Give me a couple laughs.
I think this is also why you start front-loading it with them going to the school,
you know, with dropping the kid off.
So there's so much like stuff that doesn't,
so much stuff that seems inconsequential to the plot that maybe you'll forget
that these are actually the ones that are consequential.
Yeah, right.
I mean, meanwhile, ghost shit is happening.
Like, there are doors that are.
opening. The stereo turns on by itself at one point. The dog, the bulk of the dog's
purpose in this movie is, you know, he refuses to jump in the lake to get his famous tennis
ball. Now, I would think that, you know, because they say something like, this all happened last
year, right? Spoiler alert everybody. And if you watch the trailer, there were no spoilers for this
movie because the trailer did the job. Harrison Ford fucking killed this girl and dumped her body
in the lake. Now, they say it's like,
a year since that happened. You're telling me that this is like the first time
they've gone to throw that dog's ball. Yes. Into the lake? I don't think so. This dog
would have been refusing that like, no, there's a fucking body down.
The way you get around it, it's logically, it's like, oh, maybe the house was still being
renovated for so much of that year that they haven't been there. I can offer another
explanation here. And that is that usually every morning, he will go down. Harrison Ford
will go down with the dog, and he will jerk off into the lake
to get that morning hard on off.
And that tells the dog to stay away.
The dog knows already.
You're hungry baby.
You hungry down there and your watery grave.
But now, but now, since his whole schedule is completely off,
because A, his wife's going a little crazy,
and also he's got to deal with his daddy's paper that he's dealing with right now.
So he hasn't done it.
So now the dog goes in and is like, look, oh, oh.
I don't know if I want to do that
The only time I'm kind of okay with
There is a cool like Michelle Pfeiffer
Does she see the thing
The dead body in the water
And like there's a lot of
That was cool
Like yeah that she sees it
And she sees a face in the tub at one point
Yes
But the tub is like really obvious
This is like really subtle
Like you as the audience
You as the audience are kind of seeing it
Like I think that that is well done
And it's also a tense
moment because it's just, it's a head
floating just under the water. I mean,
you can definitely see it, but it's like you
as the viewer are
waiting for the eyes
to open or the head to turn and look at her
or something like that. And it doesn't
which is kind of nice and then like she gets
distracted and then looks back and the face is gone.
So like those subtle like haunting
things are cool, but again it's just like this
is two movies running
at the same exact time, the speed
of, you know, 15 miles an hour. I would
have ran and gotten a branch and started poking
around that water. Oh, definitely. It's your water.
It's your leg. It's your poking at it. It's my water.
I'm going to smack that corpse's
head all I want. I mean, it looked
like an actual, the, what
was down there looked like a physical object also.
Like it looked like they actually put a doll
down there. Yeah. Or a model.
And then the fucking, I mean,
all the stuff in the tub looks like shit because it's
early fucking CGI. Right.
And it's not as, because
the tub is clean.
Yes.
And then Jarger Spinks jumps out of the tub. It's scary.
Is the toilet okay in this scenario?
Because clearly, like, you know, you want to steer clear
the tub and the vanity.
Those two are really haunted.
You're worried about taking a shit on this woman's face.
I mean, what, where did he drown her?
Like, was it both the faucet and then the toilet?
If it was the toilet also used to be drowning,
then it might happen.
It could happen any time.
Harrison Ford's just like, oh, man, chilly keyless.
What was I thinking?
And it's just like,
Didn't I murder you?
Can you clean it first?
I would love a flashback to the murder of him drowning her in the toilet.
She's struggling.
She flushes it once.
Oh, God damn it.
And then he has to move her to the top.
Yeah, so now both are in play.
What was I thinking trying to kill this girl in the toilet?
God, you're such a terrible murderer.
God damn it.
That's another thing I can't live up to my father for.
That guy was a great killer.
it won't stop running
you would just wait there for a minute
I'll take this thing off and all right
now maybe try jiggling the handle
I tried that already
shut up and die
so we do have
you know she's got to go back
once again she goes back to Remar's
house you know she's like I haven't seen this
wife in a while I don't know what's going on
she's peering through the windows we're seeing like
how James Remar lives on his own
he needs somebody else in that house
with a man like
it's like so bad to the point where like
you knocked over a chair in your own home
and didn't pick it up. Are you kidding me?
My wife's out gone for three days. Forget about it.
Guys weekend, baby. That chair stays down. We're eating
terrible TV dinners. He's also, it's great
because she leaves him like those flowers with a bottle of wine
in it. Like I love she watches him like, like a bear.
Like he just takes the flowers and throws them away
and takes the wine. It's like, this will do.
Yep, I don't need your flowers.
I don't need your stupid welcome to the neighborhood card.
I just, oh, booze, I'll take this.
Seeing your own welcome to the neighborhood gift being thrown out in the person's yard, kind of amazing.
That means, that means stop bothering your fucking neighbors from the love of that.
Oh, yeah.
So, Eric, you're saying you didn't have anybody or Chris come to come a ratat-tat-tat on the door there.
Welcome to the neighborhood?
someone left
something with a nice card
but didn't knock or anything
right? They might have, I wasn't
there. They left it at the
front door. You want to do
like just leave it. I don't want to talk to you.
Just leave it. There's a
moment around here where
he's like, I think it's right right here. She's
like so like oh my God, everyone's
he killed her. I know it. He's like
we've got to meet Ray and
his new girlfriend
down in five minutes.
So she has to run.
They get dinner.
Something that comes to absolutely nothing
is Wendy Cruson in this movie
as like her old friend
from the old Carnegie Hall days.
Yes, when she was a concert cellist
or something and this lady was also a fellow
musician or whatever.
By the way, we should say the reason why
she forgets about the dinner
and is making them late for this, you know,
reservation or whatever is indeed
because this is the scene
where she's got the binoculars
spying on Remar
and Harrison Ford's like
the fuck are you doing
we got reservations
so she gets dressed
really quick and he's like
it was all her fault
who was messing with her face
you know one of those
like oh we just got here
and I don't care
about your domestic
no no I will be
blaming it on the woman
do you understand me
but you think
with the amount of time
she messed with her face
it would look better
than it does tonight
he might as well be doing that shit
because did you hear
the fucking shit
he's saying at this
Him and the guy start.
I've never actually been in this situation where you and the guy are cross talking with the two ladies,
the cross talking like that.
It's incredibly rude.
It's strange.
It happens.
You've never, you know, not for an extended, not for the whole meal, but there's times where it's like you're talking, you know, to the one person and the other person.
That happens.
My in-laws will do that with us.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Yeah.
At the same time, I've never had that happen.
But I will say this, if you were in this, he starts talking about,
so did you hear about Dr. Flynn there?
Yeah, you know, he starts stalking his intern, which is his right.
You know, it's his right.
He's a professor.
He should be doing that.
And then they came after him.
And now he's suspended.
Can you believe that?
Can you believe they're going after him like that?
Just talking a 21-year-old.
He does.
It's a real, it's a, again, Clinton thing.
You know what I mean?
He's like, you can't fool out with that stuff.
Ford says he can't
fool around with that stuff anymore as in
the good old days you could
finger any intern you wanted
I mean also he knows from personal experience
he did and then he had to murder
he was trying to advise this friend to his
because he fucked around and found out
and he had to deal with it and he's like hey
next thing you're first oh look
the salad days are great
you're getting hand jobs after the lecture
in your office oh it's fantastic but the next thing
you know you're a drowning or in the tub
crashing her car into a lake.
It's really not worth it.
One professional to another, just kill her and do it very well.
And immediately hide her in your,
do you have a personal lake?
You should get a personal lake that you can hide the body in.
That would be a great idea.
So do you, right, Wendy Cruz, let me ask a really question.
By the way, I loved working with you on Air Force One as well.
Yes, you were my wife in that movie.
A spectacular picture.
To see you out, we would, this is a quick quick.
Does we do that?
Not everybody does that.
Quick question.
It's a yes or no answer.
I don't need the details.
I'm not a pervert.
I don't need the details.
I know this guy and the Frisco kid did not.
I know that for sure.
But for the rest of it, I don't know.
I can't say for sure.
My protagonist from the devil's own definitely did because I did not want my wife going over and seeing what Brad Pitt might do.
You know what I mean?
I want to keep her happy.
Yep.
I love
Like this whole ex-husband thing
Or the dude's dead
I believe
It's amazing
The amount of work they put into this
For how nowhere it goes
Like you have a photo of this guy
You have the backstory
He's got a fucking first and last name
Mentioned in this dinner scene
Markle-Marloff
Oh of course Michael Marloff
This of course will be something right
No Michael Morby is you a vampire
Oh shit there's your twist
I want what lies beneath
coffins.
By the way, guys, did you spot the actress
who plays the ghost in this?
I just looked that up to, yeah.
Amber
Valletta. Is that right?
I don't know how to pronounce names.
But she was in Gamer.
No, what she really? She's the wife.
She's the main woman in Gamer.
Really? So she's the
avatar in society.
Yes. Oh, wow.
What a. What a
career.
Girl and a tub.
I'm going to go say, I'm going to be just off the dome here.
I'm going to say, expendables three, no, Ender's game, no, 42, no, and paranoia no.
I think all those are no.
You don't think he's eating out in Ender's game up there in space?
Nah, he likes torturing kids.
No, he's not.
That's true, but Chris, it's zero gravity eating out.
So she could be above me while I'm doing it.
Has he tried it out as he tried it out once?
but I don't believe he's into giving pleasure.
He likes torturing kids way too much.
You should see a woman squirt in zero-g.
I've been to a few shows and let me tell you,
they do some acrobatics with it.
I'll tell you what,
I'm pretty sure his police sergeant Dutch Vanda broke
from Random Hearts.
That dude does not.
Even though he's running around that movie
with fucking Kristen Scott Thomas,
no he is not.
I think most people,
named Dutch don't eat out.
You know, just that just says...
Yeah, no, I do not eat
pussy. Ever,
that one. As the title suggests,
I do think firewall is also a
no. Right.
That makes sense.
He's got a blockade up against
that particular sex act.
That's what Paul Ben is. Why don't
you do it? Tell me why you don't
do it.
I don't know. I get really nervous. I get
anxiety. I don't know.
his character in Mosquito Coast
probably does because you want to
get under the blankets because all the mosquitoes
Yeah, for sure. That would make sense. I think so.
He's also a little crazy. Isn't that
what that movie's about is trying to eat out with
so many mosquitoes
being around? Yes, that's what's
it's all about, yeah. Anyway, crazy
you get some meshnetting.
I would say
bit to shit.
Dr. Stonehill
from extraordinary measures. That's a no.
Sure. I would say Mac Tannen, his brief cameo in Anchorman 2, it's the 70s. I feel like that guy's getting down. Sure. That guy knows. He got the tablet from Reynolds. He knew what was what? Let's just let's do it all. Let's go to the bottom of the barrel. Okay, his episode of Kung Fu from 1974.
No, Eric, no. I think that got to be an actual movie. He probably does. He probably wanders this country eating pussy. I think just from village to village going down.
down. Also, yeah, remake
of Sabrina, yes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. But you know, that
that son of a bitch rogue Greg Kinnear does not.
No, that's not happen. That's what she doesn't understand.
She doesn't get it. That's true. My brother, my brother,
Linus Larraby does not eat out. He turns his nose
up at many a gift. If you hear what I'm saying.
He's a playboy, but he doesn't play, boy. You know what I mean?
Yeah, you're following along.
here.
So this dinner, I mean, this dinner is going along and it's, you know, whatever.
We got the cross talk.
There is a, you know, why don't you play cello anymore?
And she's like, well, one night I played a concert and I met a fucking handsome scientist.
And three months later we were married.
That is possibly, it's possibly a, uh, uh, I knocked this girl up.
Oh, that makes sense.
but also you could still play an instrument
while being a mother.
Exactly.
I mean, especially, that's the weirdest part.
Like, if it was his kid, I would understand it.
Not understand it entirely, but like,
it's a lot cleaner.
It's his kid.
He's like, well, someone needs to raise my daughter.
God damn it, you're not going to be,
I have to do the science, you got to do it.
But it's her kid, and then she marries some other guy.
She has a kid.
She's happy to be a cellist.
She marries another guy.
Now she has a kid, and now she doesn't want to be a cellist.
It's just, it's messy.
I think part of it, though, is we're told that Marloff was also part of the orchestra or whatever.
So maybe that's like, we're all on the road, so it's like a little partridge family thing.
I don't know.
But anyway, they're having all this conversation about why she stopped playing cello.
And then Harrison Ford, just the sly dog that he is in this movie, he's like, by the way, my stupid wife is hearing things throughout the house.
Let's talk about that and humiliate her at this dinner table.
I think it's because they bring up the Boston thing
And I think she says something about Daddy's house
And he gets testy
And he's like oh yeah
Well how about all the voices you hear
In the house
He's saved he bails her out
He's just like oh yeah I know I know the who the ghost is
You do? Yeah it's my old man
Because of all the fudson we've done it with the house
Right yeah
And everyone's like how delightful
Around here, she starts going to see Joe Morton, I think, right?
Well, very important she finds, she knocks, or the photo, the framed photo of Harrison Ford, getting this award the previous year falls and the glass breaks.
And while she's picking it up, she finds a hidden key in a little air vent or whatever the fuck.
But yes, after all this, it's like, I'm going nuts.
She sees the face again, I think.
this is what there's like there's steam in the the
I think this the first time she finds the tub
filled up steam's coming out or whatever
and she sees something in the fog there
uh the steam on the mirror
there and you know I'm going nuts
is this where it says you know I mean it doesn't matter
but like a ghostly thing happens
and she's like I better go see someone enter the great
Joe Moten yes and
this is also when she starts seeing the MEPF thing
everywhere right yes yes
The MBF rudely takes all the high scores in Solitaire
Which is going to take her fucking months to get back
But Joe Morton
We're here with Joe Morton
And he's got, I don't know
I've never
You know gone to a psychiatrist or anything like that
I've never like been in an office situation like this
I would be terrified
If I was a person
Looking for help
Especially like Michelle Pfeiffer's character in this instance
And I go see somebody
And this trained paid professional
has his basement office going on
and the windows are up
and little feet are flickering by
like it's fucking cheers
I don't know
I kind of liked it as a bit quaint
for a psychiatrist
all I this is this this guy
Andrew that's a lot of therapists
have a lot of different offices
you can find one that suits you
it's not always going to be a cramped basement
I mean picture this Andrew
you're a therapist you're like oh okay
you're writing you're writing down all this boring stuff
you're getting tired of some of your patients
you cream your head back and you
you try to get an upskirt.
Oh, sure, yeah.
He's a secret perfor.
Yeah, I don't want to listen to this depressed person.
Let's see what pervin I can do.
Exactly.
Because this whole town is deranged.
This is really great, though, because, like, she's having trouble, you know,
communicating whatever he's like, here, this will open you up.
How about a ball of just loose red hot candy?
Yeah, okay.
Just take a fucking handful of this.
And it's amazing because she's eating this thing.
And the way that this, like, delivery of the dialogue is spat out,
she's like, hmm, this candy is good.
They're hot.
I have a ghost in my house.
Like, just one, two, three, two things about candy, one about having a home of the house.
Can I get a glass of water?
I have a ghost in the house.
I guess maybe that's what he does.
The red hots loosen the tongue is the idea.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, sure.
Or, you're a little truth candies.
Or is she, or is he just treating her like a child,
which seems more akin
like here take a candy
okay okay I tell you the truth
there's a ghost in my house
and I think it's a lady in the tub
we've had a lot of therapy scenes lately
on Melrose Place
Recaps on Melro 210
and that's what right they just treat you like a child
they make you a baby again so they could get
your secrets all your
bad ones bad ones do that yet
but there's we're trying to do a little
like vertigo thing here because the fucking
Hitchcock hits keep coming
He's like, oh, so you've seen this ghost.
What does she look like?
And she's like, you know, now that I think about it,
she looks an awful lot like me.
Oh, where have I fucking smelled this out before me?
I have a type.
That's true.
Right around here, yeah, something happens.
She gets, I think this is the sequence event.
Something spooky happens.
She goes to Harrison Ford's office and then he's going to drive her home.
But then because they work at the same college,
she sees James Remar.
That son of a bitch, James Remar,
no, do not.
I am not dealing with this right now.
Runs in and is like,
you didn't James Reimar.
I know you killed your wife.
This is what you did.
I can't believe it.
And then he's like,
killed my wife.
I didn't kill my wife.
She's right here.
And there's Miranda Otto back in the movie.
And it's like,
dun,
dun, done.
The reason for this freak out, by the way,
we're skipping over a big stupid scene here,
Steve.
Oh, please.
Because Joe Morton's professional advice is why don't you figure out what the ghost wants.
Oh, I forgot the thing goes first.
She buys a fucking Ouija board from the toy store and has Jody come over to do this.
And this is like, I've said this before.
And I think the, you know, all of the witchboard movies clearly lay this out also.
I haven't seen any of those new Ouija movies.
But like, good.
You can't have, that's good enough.
You can't have an asshole participant.
in your seance that doesn't believe it
because this is how the bad
juju gets into the house and this lady's
just laughing and making fun of it
the whole but I don't know
Clark Greg fucking forgot his own movie
because earlier in the movie
she's like oh hey
Catherine or whatever
Michelle Fiverr's character name is like
let me introduce you to my psychic
my psychic wants to do this my psychic wants to do that
oh right she believes in this shit then
she should be hurt God in Ouija board or something
real quick Chris you said the Wii G
new movies were good
or was, or was it good that he has not seen them?
The second, the second
Ouija movie is, I honestly
very good. It's a, it's a Fetigan, right?
Yeah, that's one of the Flanagan ones.
Oh, really?
Oh, that's like Wichia
Origin of Evil?
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's a good movie.
But yeah, that's, that's when
like she gets, uh, she gets
spooked out because
the, she thinks anyway, that the whole thing
is a bust. The girl, uh, Jody goes home.
and then she gets a big scare
that's when she sees the fucking
initials being listed on the
solitary game and all that shit and she
she speeds at the university
dude this public freak out
this is it's tough
coming back from this this is a real
like you have humiliated me at work
in a really bad way you have to move
yeah you gotta take another job somewhere
I'm sorry Harrison Ford
I think that's what she secretly wants
the whole movie is to just kind of like go and live
another, she wants to be Jody, I think, if we're
talking sense, like, and at this moment, she's
just like, I know, what if I just freak out
in my, like, he would, like, of course he would be like, we need time apart.
Like, at this point, he's not just keep on doing this.
No, they keep on doing it. Now there's a big
cocktail party with Dean Templeton for Harrison Ford's
budget, and they have to go.
I kind of want on those steps in, because he's like, all right,
you'll look great. She's like, oh, I look like terrible.
I look fantastic.
No ghost shit tonight.
No fucking listen to me.
You better not accuse anyone a murder.
You better not do any seances in the bathroom or whatever I'm doing to stick in the library, okay?
Because may I remind you, I have a paper that's being published.
God damn it.
It's Phil and Lois, and I have a gun in my back pocket.
It should be on time.
And be nice to Colonel Mustard.
Don't accuse him of anything.
He knows he's got that thing on his face.
Leave him alone.
He donates a lot of money to the university.
Professor Plummis put on some weight.
Don't mention it.
Okay?
Just don't look.
And for the last time, Miss Peacock's husband was murdered six years ago.
Stop asking her how her husband's doing.
It's embarrassing.
This is also, but this is the party where they also reveal,
an old lady reveals the old party freak out that.
she had a year ago, I guess.
She doesn't remember because she sped home
from this, I guess, saw the affair
and then drove the car 80 miles an hour
into a tree. Okay.
But yeah, she broke, she broke
like a glass at this party.
This old lady's really
kind of like, you were so terrible
last. Oh, totally needling
her, yes. Oh, yes. I certainly
hope we're laying off the spirits
this evening, and by spirits, I mean
alcohol, not whatever ghost shit's
happening. Believe me, the whole
campus knows about that missy
can we expect a repeat
performance tonight madam
because I brought my
sister here here Evelyn get in here
meanwhile my favorite part
of the entire movie is right here she looks over
she looks over and it's James
Remar and Miranda Otto
and she like kind of was like awkwardly waves
and they wave back and then James
Remar which I read is an improvised
maneuver goes to Miranda Otto
and like fake chokes her like ugh
yep it's so good
fucking good. It's awesome. And it's
it is also
completely unsurprising that
the best moment of this movie is an
improvised line from an actor and not
something in the script. It's so
fucking, because it just, of course he's just
like, oh my God, there's that crazy stupid
neighbor. Oh, I'm going to kill my wife.
Oh, here comes. It also
lets you know, though, because they have like a good
laugh about it. It lets you know
that Remar is not
taking it personally. Yes.
When he has every right to be like,
fuck that lady we're leaving if she's here you know what i mean oh no he's got the he's got the upper
hand at this point he's definitely he he should be strut and everywhere he goes he's got all the hand
you're absolutely right uh so the picture falls down a second time wouldn't you know after she
replaces the frame and everything but this time oh she thinks to pull off the back of it
and sees the other side of this newspaper clipping uh and it mentions a missing girl wouldn't
what are the odds there so to prove that i'm normal
I'm going to stay up all night
researching
to the Vermont
missing persons website
I mean it's not even like
Red herrings usually
culminate at the
at the finale
it's like it was James Brimar
whoops no it isn't and it's the other thing
right sure this is just movie number two
it's like oh did Miranda Otto get killed
no but there is another missing
girl if you're interested to read on
but yeah this is the
she finds out from the
headline of the newspaper clipping
Missing Girl Madison Elizabeth Frank
M.E.F. Oh, my
God.
It wasn't the floors.
This 2000s internet
man and it's kind of funny because
the movie, it really dates itself
here in a fantastic way because it uses
the limited technology we had
at the time as a tense, as a
moment of tension because it's like pulling
up the photo and it's just slow
internet 56
Killebond modem loading this photo.
Gillian Anderson pixelated tits, regular tits.
Oh, it's really obviously not her, but still kind of going to, it's going to work for tonight.
Could you actually make that one a little more out of focus?
Like back it up one before it, because that looked real, but now I can see the bad Photoshop.
Claire, could you leave for about three hours?
I just got to get this Carmen Elektra bikini pick to load.
And then that's going to get me going real good for.
for our sex having later today.
Look at what we had to suffer through kids today.
Do not know what it was like.
You'll never know.
Dude, the pornography desert of the early 2000s.
I had to use my brain and my imagination, God damn it.
I had to do these things.
Disgusting.
Awful.
So this is a great moment, too.
Like Harrison Ford wakes up.
He's like, have you been up all fucking night?
And then she's like, do you remember this incident?
This missing girl?
did you know her because you're from the area?
No, Claire, stop it.
Stop it.
Yep. Bad Claire.
I love these stoppits.
Now, that's like, that's Harrison Ford.
Stop it, stop it.
You know, like he needs a little bit more of that like Jordan She's got energy in this movie.
But also, man, like it's the first, I know she's been like going on and on about ghosts, sure.
But this is the first time she's mentioned this girl that you know Harrison Ford, you know, as
this character, you
fucking murdered this girl.
Maybe lay off the freak
out. I mean, she'll ask about
you know, because it is like, he is like
zero to 100 right here. Like, why don't you
fucking stop already? That's enough of this.
Like, oh, what's, every other time
he's been like, I don't know, this
is kind of crazy, but the time you bring
up this dead girl and does he in fact
know her, it's a total freak out?
Bad handplay here.
Doth protest way too much, my friend.
Yes, exactly right. She calls the police
and they're like, you know, oh, no, we kind of downgraded it to a runaway.
We don't know, you know, anything about it.
But let me just give you this lady's address if you want to bother her.
You want to bother the bereaved or whatever?
Was it a cop or was it a reporter?
It's a one-way phone call.
I don't know what you...
Yeah, it's a one-way phone call, but you might be right, Andrew.
It might be a reporter.
Because I think, yeah, I think she gets the name off of the credit on the photo or something like that.
Give up your sources.
Give up your sources.
either way Eric you're right it is totally wrong for a journalist or if I can cop to do this but like yeah here's this woman's name and address why don't you go see her and this is McCall Mercurio the character actress rest in peace she was the mom in while you were sleeping and a bunch of other shit but she's a real like and why are you here exactly how do you fit into my missing daughter lady and it's like you know this shit that you would not get you would not allow
a total stranger to do this, right? Like
Clarice Starling
can do this in the dead girl's house
and the father's like, yeah, I go up to the room, right?
This is a total stranger
who's like, oh, I saw this newspaper
clipping about your fucking missing kid.
Can I look around her room?
And this lady acquiesces
and she goes up there, you know?
Oh, and yeah, but you know what my daughter
loved to do is just
she was that Ted Bundy-esque would take
trophies of herself and tape
her own hair to the wall.
Of course.
Gals write in.
I mean, I know that us gents haven't done this.
What about taping my hair to my fucking wall?
Maybe the mother had like baby hair, that sort of a thing from back in the day.
And maybe when the girl went missing, she's like making an altar out of the room.
Oh, yeah, that's a good call.
So it's extra fucked up to just swipe this shit for Ray Finkel's mom, dude.
Oh, right.
Exactly.
She's going to be like, the hair's missing.
part of my daughter's museum
has been feverized
like it is so weird
but what would have been a cool twist
if this was like
an actual horror movie
and not a domestic thriller
masquerading as one
the turn here would be like
oh that wasn't
you know her hair or something
it was like somehow hair
from an evilish person
and oh now you've brought that presence
you know what I mean
like something like that would have been
a kind of cool turn I guess
That was the hair of my boyfriend, the Nazi commandant.
Right, exactly.
His beautiful blonde hair.
You think you're talking a little kid, but then it's like this crazy serial killer,
Alchemist dude, yeah.
Yes, exactly.
You bring some sort of like trickster into the world because you fucking feverized the wrong lock of hair.
We are like over an hour into this.
We were probably what, this is probably at the 80 minute mark.
You can't start introducing it.
This is also starting to really, we're about to sink into possess.
part of this movie.
It happens right here. She does seance number two,
yeah. And she does the name of two.
And is this, she directly goes from that
into sexy red dress.
Yes, spread eagle on the stairs
there. Quite a striking image.
Huge trailer moment, because
like, you know, he's like, oh God, you stop
doing all that stupid ghost shit.
Now you're doing sick. Because she does a seance
with the hair and then like,
you see her, she does it in the bathroom or something.
Yes. And you see her look in the mirror.
and you see clearly digital
Michelle Pfeiffer blue eyes
that have not been this blue
for the rest of the movie
just for this scene
and she turns her head
and they turn into very bright green eyes
and she winds up
to now she's like
you know being all sultry
and he's like no more go
she'll get sad to sex
and she's getting a little rough
she's like biting his lip
and let me show it.
Yeah she subs an apple
into his mouth is
that's pretty funny
there is no cooking
only Madison
well
it's in the trailer
and I recognized it like
rewatching it
Michelle Pfeiffer for whatever
it's worth when she has to be like
possessed I guess by this girl
she definitely changes
the way she speaks a little bit too
which is you know
it's something she's very catwoman here
which is kind of sexy too I do think
this is not a great
Michelle Piper performance because she's much better than this movie
but it's a good Michelle Piper performance
and this movie, if there's anything
to keep you going, it's a Michelle fire.
It's like a dead-eyed actress.
This is a lifetime movie.
I am asleep.
Oh, yeah.
She's the one putting the panels to this thing.
I don't think anybody else is really doing anything to do that.
If this was stalked by my ghost neighbor,
you know,
whatever fucking dead-eyed Canadian is in this role is not doing well.
She easily switches over to this crazy,
sexy monster person, you know, it's fun.
And then there's that the big trailer line.
She's like, you think she suspects anything?
and he's like, oh, your wife is,
blah, blah, blah.
Yes, it's great.
I love his freak out.
I would just think that was like weird sex talk.
I'm like, oh, I don't know,
maybe my wife will find out.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's probably my wife.
Oh, man, she's such a bitch.
What?
What did you just say?
No, no, it's part of the fantasy, you see.
Go back to it.
Go back to it.
It's right.
It's just, I'm just playing a part.
It's my fantasy where I call my wife a stupid.
stupid bitch. Yeah, it's great.
And then I come.
I spend
15 minutes talking about how awful
my life is with my wife and then I come.
Oh, this is better than walking the dog.
I do love when
she's like trying to, you know, get down
and she rips his shirt open, like the buttons
go flying or whatever. Because so few
movies actually acknowledge this and I kind of
appreciate it even though it's a fucking crazy
overreaction. He's like, Jesus Christ,
it's a new shirt. This is a fucking
lose a no shirt. Losing his mind
about this shirt tear. I think when he knocks her
over, she drops the hair
and therefore comes back to
normal Michelle Fifer. What is, what has
happened? Yes.
Yeah, exactly. And, you know,
she's starting to
kind of remember around here. This is where she's
like, oh, you know, I remember
seeing you in the house
and I freaked out and I left and then when I
got to the party, she was there again at the party
and I freaked out and that's
how the car accident happened or whatever. And then this is
where we get this like, this is more
of the dramatic thriller part of it, him being
like, oh, I slipped once, I'm so
sorry, God help me, I slipped.
Oh, my God. He's fucked.
He has to say it. You know, I'm
I'm serious, I slipped. I walked
into the house and there was water
on the floor. I slipped and I fell
into it. I think he's
less convincing in these.
It was a whole in one.
Not crazy. The whole and oneness of
it all I don't think he's good at.
I'm generally thinking. And he's like being,
tried to be really contrite, like, teary-eyed.
It's like, that's all right.
She winds up going to stay with her friend, Jody,
overnight.
And Jody tells the story that they, you know,
I never wanted to tell you this.
And it happened literally right seconds before your car accident.
That that weekend I had seen,
I actually saw your husband, Norman,
with another, look like a young blonde girl
in a cafe, an Amaranth.
Yeah.
The little hippie town up the road.
Okay, okay.
it wasn't a nice little cafe.
It was a fud ruckers. I got some fud ruckers. I liked the burgers there.
And yeah, he was there again, the zappy chicken tenders with this lady who looks like essentially
like 10 years younger version of you. And yeah, and I didn't, I didn't disturb his chili meal.
If you are cheating on your spouse or partner, by the way, a little, you know, sexy lunch out,
perfect spot is a fud ruckers because honestly, who the fuck is going to a fud ruckers?
You will have that restaurant to yourself to have your nefarious.
Chili's, Red Lobster, no one will ever see you there.
I'm sorry, I apologize.
I know this are a five-week anniversary.
It's romantic, but it has to be at David Busters because that's the only place
of my wife doesn't go.
Oh, oh, yeah, meet, oh, yeah, baby, yeah, meet me at the Ruby Tuesday.
Oh, yeah, we'll get the typhoon shrimp and then have sex afterwards.
We're going to have the, we're going to go to the last Red Robin.
and we're going to have a tower of onion ring.
I found one of the final Johnny Rockets.
We're going to drive for 90 miles.
I will be very pissed off
because I know we've done it with the last blockbuster.
And I know that's more movie-centric.
So if we start doing like, you know,
pilgrimages to the last red lobster
when this fucking is all,
it's all been drained and nobody can go anymore.
People are doing it.
I guarantee it'll happen.
God damn it.
You know how I know it'll happen?
Because the.
the chain
friendlies
you know the ice cream
parlor friendlies
and they had like those
some places
had restaurants of friendlies
where you could get like
oh yeah
casadias and chicken
we had one in like them
we had one in like them
we had one in our town
that's now a car dealership
because they all were getting
closed out or whatever
but like there are people
that know like oh fuck
if you drive east
into Massachusetts
such and such amount of time
there's the lone friendlies
restaurant still available
you know what I mean
Eric and Eric
and I, this our buddy
our buddy Justin's wedding
was near a friendlies.
I think, do you remember this?
And you were driving us back
and it was like, oh shit,
the day of,
we could finally get friendlies
and we all got friendly.
Amy, Jen and I and Eric
got friendlies and it fucking sucked.
It was awful.
It was a wretched meal.
It was a really bad deal.
Part of that was like, you know,
where I grew up, there was a friendlies
and that's a thing you have when you're a kid.
And it's like, oh, well, it's right there.
Let's try it again.
Wow, was I a dumb kid?
Well, yeah.
It was fast food that you sat down for.
It made you feel a little fancier than normal.
I get it totally.
But like, you will find, I thought ponderosa's went and you go fucking five miles into the middle of nowhere.
Finally, there's one of like six ponderoses still hanging out in the wild.
You want to go for a salad bar that's got cubed ham and other stuff, Ponderosa Steakhouse is all for you.
So she is at whatever at Jody's house
And she's like she calls him
And she's like listen I'm going to come tomorrow morning
Because I need to ask you a question
But that's all I'm going to do
And then the next day
I don't even this sort of doesn't come to much
But I guess it's for sympathy
It's like she finds him in the bathtub
With a fucking hair dryer in there
She's like oh my God
Something happened
How could this be an actual accident
It's revealed oh it was an accident
They're just leaving their hair
air dryer plugged in at all times.
It's like the number one thing you're not supposed to do.
They are,
they do,
but like I said,
they do set it up in the beginning that is there and she has to unplug it again
to make it work.
Yes.
Yes,
because she like has to push the little red button and the spark flies out.
It's definitely Chekhov's hair dryer.
Question for the room,
though.
Because she does something in that scene with the hairdryer.
I don't want to back up too much here.
We got a lot of dumb movie left to finish.
but she uses the hair dryer to make the steam on the mirror go away.
Yeah.
At one point, I've never seen it happen before or since.
Oh, you don't all do that?
What the fuck's wrong with you?
What the fuck?
What the fuck? You don't do that?
What the fuck?
It just seems like a towel would be more than fine.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
No.
No, everybody does this.
Of course they do.
Oh, man.
It was bizarre.
I don't even think she dried her hair.
in that scene. It was just to clear up
to steam. Oh, I better
take my de-steamer to the mirror
here. Look, what are you talking about,
you maniac? You're overusing that
de-steamer.
Oh, man.
So now she sort of feels bad from
Wendy Cruson comes back for four seconds.
Oh, well, because Stan is like
his personal physician as well
as his friend or whatever. So Stan
and Elena, welcome back to the movie for your
final moments, I guess. And they're just
like, oh, he's fine. You know,
just watch him, whatever, he'll be okay.
Yeah, the paramedics, then leave.
And Stan seems very broken up about this.
He's like, take care of my boy.
Please.
Please, Claire.
I love him so much.
And I guess it does work because when she, when he finally, like, reveal, he, she asks him,
did you have anything to do with her murder?
And he's like, no, no, of course not.
Oh, my God.
I never did.
Blah, blah, blah.
And he explains what has got, what his version of the story, which I, I forget which
version, this is like version 2.0, which is.
I had, I had an affair with her.
When I tried to break it off, she became unstable.
She threatened to kill herself or you, he says to Michelle Pfeiffer.
So really, I was doing this for you.
Really, me doing all this was to protect you.
That was what this is all about.
Yeah, and he's some line like, our life doesn't have to end now.
We can just put this behind us and continue.
And I'm like, absolutely, who cares about this stupid mystery?
I've got the biggest house in the world, and Harrison Ford is going down on me.
that's not bad
good times roll
exactly
that's the good times
yeah that would be
great
you know because then just
some music in this movie
that wasn't
ripping off
the psycho score
it would be great
but
but his
his
um
a little scam here
with the hairdriar
uh backfires
because then she starts thinking
like it's not a sympathy thing anymore
it's like see
you dejected this girl
she killed herself
and now she's trying to kill you
again she's like convinced that the ghost
is here doing it she did it
Norman she's dead and now she's trying
to hurt you and the both of us
oh my god wasn't a dog in this
movie too
she goes to take a nap
and this is something he's like
he calls somebody he's like hey Tom
what's that a paranormal
who you're going to call guy that you know
what's his name kill him a dog or whatever
And I'm like, oh, cool, is the third act?
This movie, we're going to have a fun ghost hunter character?
This, dude, you need to, it's like a, I'll send somebody over, knock on the door.
Hello, child.
Yeah.
How you're doing?
Heard you got a haunting in here.
Oh, this haunted is just, it's just another dead girl that you fucking killed, didn't it?
You killed her.
This is going to be a quick trip, isn't it?
I already got the solution.
I didn't even have to get out of the drive.
What's that down in the water?
Down there in the water.
Can we just get somebody to pull that up here?
And then he's calling him whilst also,
I think Michelle Fiver had been gifted a witch book from her friend.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, Jody has given her a book like as a gag or whatever.
But dude, did you catch the Harrison Ford note that he's making to himself?
Like, he's listening to this like parapsychologist who's down in North Carolina or something.
And again, one-sided phone call.
Come on, give me something.
Yes.
Give me.
Let me see the other room where the guy is in and get like,
give me a voice at least.
You know what I mean?
Like Harris Eulen with a pony tail.
Ray stands.
You know, Thomas F. Wilson, you know, bring some Zemeckis heads back into this.
Like, why not?
But, yeah, he writes down.
Because he mentioned something about the hair, I think, to this guy or whatever.
And he writes down, proposed suggestion, colon, exorcism by fire.
and underlines it.
Okay, dude.
You had to write that down?
A dude told you to burn something.
You needed to make a note about that?
But she jumps into the water at this point, right?
And he runs.
I think the hair drags her into the water as the other.
Is that right?
It's like she's being pulled by the hair.
She's like zombie walking to it.
I thought she was just like, I just thought she was like,
I'm going to go check where that fucking face was because I would do the same thing.
I'd go.
I think she is kind of doing that.
And then all of a sudden it's like, what, like the arms go up and she gets
like pulled under the water
by the ghost is the idea. And I love Harrison
Ford talking to this dude and he's like seeing her
at the edge of the dock and he's like, uh,
can I actually call you back? I think my wife's trying to kill
herself out in the backyard.
Yeah. So he pulls her back up.
And he finds out about the hair.
Yeah. In this sequence, because she's like, where's the
braid or whatever. And this is where they,
they burn it in the fireplace.
Yeah. And I also, she pulls up a necklace, by
Anyway, we should say, yes.
When she goes down there, she pulls up a necklace and you see there's something else down there.
Like, she's like, it's like, it's something loose.
Yeah, it's the box.
She gets, because they're, the hand, the ghost pulls her arms like down into the dirt at the bottom of the lake.
I need it.
She sort of pulls this thing up.
More spelled out for me.
I need little ghost hands.
That'd be fun.
Yeah.
Like little skeleton hands.
Like, at the end of the movie, you do kind of get an evil dead hand that kind of grabs them.
I'm like, fucking finally, dude, something.
Well, because by that.
point, the movie has made the confirmed
decision that it's ghost stuff.
Well, now it's already ghost stuff.
I mean, with the hair, the possession,
the whole thing. Right. Yeah, I guess that's
true. So now she's sort of forgiven
him, but he slips up.
They're on this fucking killer sailboat.
Again, to Eric's point, let the good times roll.
You're ready to get eaten out of a sailboat?
Never happened to me before.
I would kill to be eaten out on a sailboat.
If he can eat out
on this sailboat, I'll eat my shoe
fucking hurts off the time.
Did you see this fucking thing?
It's a little narrow.
It's a fucking kayak.
Oh, it's too small.
You can eat, no, you could easily eat out on that.
If you do the right positions, maybe the water would be choppy.
Yeah, we'll see.
Eat a little wind here.
Down to mission mass.
You don't want a little wind when you're doing that.
Let me just put that out there.
Hey, Gilligan, did you eat out the skipper?
Brian, too.
A bunch of rascals.
A bunch of ghost rascals.
But this is another stupid, like Jody says to her, like, oh, it was in the town of
Adamant, which is kind of funny.
Adamandium, yeah.
You know, oh, it's, you know, that town, it's like an hour away, right?
What she says to Harrison Ford on this boat is, so have you heard of Adamant?
And he's like, no.
Dude, you don't know a town that's an hour away from, like, come on.
No, no, I, of course I know.
Goody tooth, goody, goody, goody, goody, two shoes.
No, honey, that's Adam Ant.
We danced to that song at our wedding.
No, no, no, no, no.
But you just said, Adamant.
You said that it's a town, but no, it's a song.
It's a musician.
So now she's like, something is, he's still lying to me.
So she goes to Adamant, Adamant, or whatever the fuck.
And sees, like, some store that has a bunch of these shitty necklaces in it.
She's like, oh, that's where he must have bought her the necklace.
Yes, exactly.
she goes back home
and I guess this is just
no ghosts involved in this deep dive
she just jumps back down in the water
finds exactly where this shit is
and digs this box up
objection your honor
she does this
in the middle of the night
he's asleep
it's been a good day
we're back
this guy goes to work for hours
a day like eight to ten hours
wait for we go to work tomorrow
then go and do this thing
why are you doing it's the middle of the night
yeah a note to my thinking
this should have actually been a parody movie
the place
when she goes to Adam Man
the place she has to go
I'm not shooting you
is called the sleeping dog
Yes
A sleeping dog
Oh do you think you should let it lie
Oh ho ho
Let it lie beneath
My friend
Oh yeah
Oh that's right
Oh so clever
You bury your dog in the yard
After it dies
you might as well bear this dog
this dog has been gone forever
you know what you've got to see this dog
but no so now
thank God the end of the movie is here by
yes here we are at the end of the film
whatever whatever happened to your next appointment
at the psychiatrist's office
Joe Morton is gone like you know what I mean
like something uh these are things
that could happen like maybe Joe Morton comes
in the house and the ghost kills him that's kind of something
you know right exactly that's another
perfectly uh you know
produced dead meat character right there
he goes to check on the patient and all of a sudden
Harrison Ford, oh, like comes out with an axe.
Yes, we need a higher body count here. He's got to get away with a few more murders before
being foiled. Yep. Yep. But so she's like, all right, now tell me the real story.
Now that I have this fucking, I don't even know, Pirates of the Caribbean box that has,
I don't know, what's even in the box? It's like, this is the necklace is in the box.
Oh, the next to the box now. Yeah. And he's like, you don't understand what that is. And this is,
he's still at this point like I didn't kill her she killed herself in the house to spite
me and yes I took her body put it in her car and drove to the the boat dock and
dumped it in the water I shouldn't have done that and then this is where he's like uh I'm asking
you to forgive me we can live baby we just got to forget all this he's like bargaining and
whatever yes live with him think of that boat think of that killer house with your private
dock out onto the lake also it's pretty sexy it's kind of sexy that that you have a murderer
you're sleeping with a murder who got away with it.
It's pretty hot.
Stop acting like he is special in this.
He's a graduate of an Ivy League university.
Every single one of those guys.
Yes, scull and bones,
you get in there.
You've got to produce skull and bones to get in skull and bones.
Every single person that's how that works.
Has killed at least one young woman.
Yeah, I would say so.
That makes sense.
True.
But she's like, no, like, you got to fucking call the police then.
This girl's got to be brought up, blah, blah, blah.
And he's like, yeah.
I will definitely now call the police department on your behalf and tell them what I did.
Hello, police.
It's so easy.
Yeah.
Hello, police department.
It's me, Harrison Ford.
Yes, I killed Madison, Manus and Frank.
You know her.
Yes, Madison Frank.
Come by immediately.
We're a mile from the highway.
If you'd like to make a call, please hang.
No, yeah, I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for your, come here.
Yeah, no, I can't wait to turn myself in.
I would have been very happy
if that was just the ending
and this was just a straight
domestic thriller
and he was just going to prison
yep
but no
he's like I gotta take a shower
before I you know
or he's like I want to go
clean myself up
before I turn myself in
why don't you take a shower
it's a great idea
the bathroom's not haunted
and she does
and this is what he gets
to with the halithane
and wouldn't you know it
well because she does a
I don't think anyone
was shocked in the
theater with this. She does the old redial
on the cordless phone and it's
411.
Information, what city please? And then
you have the fucking halidone or whatever.
If you're a 411 operator
and someone calls up, yeah, I killed
that girl. Yeah. You've got to
report that. Probably.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
I asked what city and state
and he said, yes, here's my name and I
killed that girl. I just figured
I'd hand it over to you fellas. You'd know what to deal
with it there. He even gives the address
of the house
Oh, are you looking for
Are you, uh, yeah, I killed that girl.
Are you looking for a Calarney girl, uh, the bar on, uh,
yes, that's right.
Madison Franks works there or whatever.
And yes, I guess I, I guess I, yes, I ate some of their brains.
Yeah, I did.
I did that too.
Yeah.
I tried to feed a cat to an ATM.
I did that too.
You know, a full American psycho ending would be appreciated.
I would like that too.
It would be awesome.
she is now out of it and this is when he puts her in the tub fully clothed and is, you know, filling up the tub and basically he's gone, he goes crazy here, but again, yeah, he's not doing, you know, what does she got by my door number two, Johnny? He's not doing that, but he is just sort of a little loopier at this point.
Well, all right, so question for the room then, like, because this movie's already bad and boring. If he was really, no, it would be worse.
It would be worse.
It would make it any better.
It would be worse, but more memorable.
That, I think, is the trade-off.
Sure.
It's like, you could definitely, you definitely would,
I was just bored at this point.
This is supposed to be the big suspenseful moment.
It is, yeah.
And like, oh, guess what?
That chemical compound they talked about earlier,
we're using it.
Oh, my God.
It's happening finally.
No, it's happening.
And she can't move.
He's about to drown.
And I'm like, just that, I want this.
like I don't care about like I know she's not going to die here I absolutely know that for sure we have found ways to drag this out even further because the bathtub is filling up and he's just explaining the whole thing is that she was going to go to the dean and ruin our lives I can't couldn't have that no I begged and pleaded with your baby just so forgive me and move on but here we are you did this to yourself and I think you're suicidal bring me and Catherine me and Caitlin closer together right
Yeah, totally.
You're like, wait, who?
Oh, yeah, that fucking daughter from the beginning.
Exactly.
And he's going to drown her, and then he reaches in,
what's this?
And he finds the necklace around her,
and then he sees a go-gag-gag-gag-g-ghost.
Yeah, her face turns into a dead girl.
Yes.
As a dead person coming after.
Living dead girl.
Oh, no, it's a rob zombie show.
And then he hits his head.
and he falls down on the the you know this this old school uh sink his blood rushing out of his
head he falls to the ground hey another good time to end your movie yeah but we're not going to do
that because then his body disappears when she's coming to consciousness and getting out of the tub
it takes 20 minutes to get out of the goddamn tub with the toes and the chain right wiggle your big
toe and she's learning again how to walk and then then we have to have a car chase on top of
this. There I was
November 6th, 1999.
I'm trying to drown my
wife at the bathtub, you see.
I take a step back. The porcelain
tile on the floor was wet. I slip,
hit my head on the sink, and the next thing
you know, when I came to, she was
dead, and I came up with the idea
for the flux capacitor.
He was working
on that. He was just, the paper
was about the flux capacitor.
Yeah, maybe that's totally right. Maybe that's
Rob Zemeckis's big fears, that that's how he goes
out is he cracks his head on a fucking
faucet. That dude's got like those old person like
what he called those
rubber rubber mats everywhere. Yeah, oh yeah
everywhere. Rubber's in the tub. He's got the bar on the
side. Totally. I should hope so
because he is an old person now.
That's also true. He is. He is.
And I also, they seem like a lovely couple, but he does
have a wife who dresses a lot like Betty Boop.
Yeah, really? Right. He likes, he has
like an old fashioned thing. He likes a pinup
culture. Nice. Good
for him. But
so like Derek's point, yeah
he wrote Harrison Ford is gone.
He's fallen over again
downstairs. So she has to do the thing of like
reach and grab the phone from him.
Sure. Great. Call the cops.
But that you can't do that. So she
has to get the portable phone. What do we know
the cellular phone? What do we know about the cellular
phone? It only gets service
on the bridge. Now here's a thing.
though. Not only does it get
service in the middle of the bridge, it also
presumably gets service
farther beyond that portion towards town.
This woman drives literally
to the center of the bridge as she's
running away from this murderous fucking
dude and she stops
the car in the middle of the
bridge to make the fucking phone call.
Just drive to the police station
with the phone in your hand. Exactly. You're on
the road anyway and she's also got, she
grabs the wrong car keys. She grabs
the keys that is the truck that holds their boat.
so it's like a big fucking cumbersome mess
you know when you're supposed to do
the setup and the payoff
the payoff is supposed to feel satisfying
you're just there and you're just like
get it over with I'm fucking tired of this
it's like the Homer Simpson story
it was like any hit her with a golf club
so dude golfing all the time
did it bugger no he said bowling
oh shit
exactly
it's just so drawn out
and we have to be at the middle of the bridge
because we got to visit the
a ghost in the water.
Exactly. Yep, exactly.
And, you know, big, big chase right here because Harrison Ford is like, he's in the
flat bed of the truck.
He tries, he comes from behind once again with a strangling while this woman is driving
pretty safe.
She crashes into the fucking water.
Wouldn't you know it?
We got a big scrum here trying to get out of the car.
And then, oh boy, here's this ghost girl just floating up to help out the accident scene.
Oh, man.
The mast of the boat goes through the car
That is directly beneath them
And breaks the windshield so she can get out
It's like a perfect mousetrap horseshit
So it doesn't make sense
But yeah, the corpse like floats up
And it's looking, you know, like this girl
Looked normally, you know
She pulls Harrison Ford down
And then like when it's like jobs
Keeps him there, it doesn't pull him down
It keeps him in the car
he drowns
Michelle gets away
and then you see
this corpse falling
and it turns from like
this young actress's face
back to just the rotten
corpse to be back down
at the bottom of the warder
maybe I guess it's telling you
that her spirit is now at rest
yeah yeah this is the haunting
we'll stop now I guess
is the idea
you gotta free her from Davy Jones first
that's the next segment
that evil Bill Nihy
son of a bitch
I gotta go back in the lake
fuck yeah what what lies beneath on stranger tides
god the next one uh but yeah so like
that's literally it for it is dead this girl's soul can rest
cut to we talked about the shot already at the beginning of the episode
she's in this graveyard and oh
she's placing a rose wow rose on her murderous husband's grave
no of course not it's madison's tombstone don't you see your face
in the snow oh my god instead this end stinger thing should
been at Joe Morton's office
with her daughter being like, yeah,
your father was a murderer.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
It's unpacked. This now.
Or your stepfather or whatever.
Yeah. Whatever it was. Yeah.
Exactly. It's more powerful if he is her father.
Like, what does this other dude?
Why are you mentioning this other guy at all?
It's just because it's messy.
It's confusing.
Two movies on the road, guys, and they're driving
right next to each other the whole time.
But yeah, that's it. It just like,
this score man
just
full on fucking Bernard Herman
psycho score right here
I mean it is
what's his face
does all the Zemeca scores
Alan
Yeah Sylvester
Yeah yeah yeah
It's it's weird because
like Sylvesteri definitely has you watch enough
Zemeca's movies you can hear it
He has a certain
style that he
he does his music in and you can hear a
Sylvester's score and you know it's him
except for this movie.
This is just him doing
Hitchcock shit. None of the Allen
Sylvester Flair is there at all.
It sucks. It doesn't
sound original at all and it's weird
to see that original music composed by
is it original music?
I thought there was going to have to be some sort of
like with inspiration from it. Yeah, exactly.
Kind of. I didn't look up
to see if there's any lawsuit suits here from the
Herman fucking estate, but
that's it. That's the end of this movie.
Good God. It's actually,
I'm disliking it more now that we talked
through than I was yesterday, but let's go around the
horn here for some final thoughts. Chris Cabin.
Okay, so K-19 is a no.
Six days, seven nights is a yes.
Cowboys and aliens
is a yes. Crossing over
is a no. Age of Adeline is
a no, call of the wild, a no
working girl, yes. Objection.
Just because he's on
the Widowmaker during the movie
doesn't mean he's always on the widow
maker. He can descend the mountain
and eat pussy, dude. I understand
that I have spent time with, I've seen
that movie, I've spent time with the man, I don't
think he eats pussy.
I've made the judgment there.
This is a horrible movie, never watch
it unless you are like a Zemeckas person
who is a completest
I guess, then you, I guess you can watch it.
It takes so long to do
what we explained here. You don't
understand how much fucking time
is wasted with i guess what he says like technology it's so fantastic yeah well the fucking
go in a lab and do that and make like fucking teaching fucking films for kids to learn how to do it
that's fine don't make me fucking watch it this fucking shit sucks and like it's no to me it's no
different than the bail wolf thing the fucking christmas carol thing the fucking uh uh polar express
thing it's the same thing he's just playing with the toys and he's like well i can get you to
hand over 1250 for it so let's do it well welcome to marwin yes oh god damn that fucking movie uh eric ciska
yeah um it's not a recommend i did not in i enjoy i feel like i enjoy parts of these movies i'll say
these movies like it's it's just such a mess but i i like the actors in it i like some of
the atmosphere stuff i but it just doesn't it doesn't come together it doesn't work
instead I think you should just eat
pussy
no there you go
there's highly recommended
much better time
uh Steve Sadek
it doesn't take two and a half hours
that's for sure
if you do it the right way
it's
all I know
no this movie stinks
it's it's incredibly boring
like I do think why this movie made
so much money and made you know
it beat X-Men at the box office
it's it's the
it's the Ford Fyfer thing
like holy shit these are huge huge movie stars
yeah and again Fyfer's bringing it you know
she gets she gets to do that dual role thing
which is kind of fun and she's like
sexy scary for a hot second
but then Ford is just
on odd he's the it's the mumbly version
of Harrison Ford like I don't usually
put subtitles on what I'm watching movies I did for this guy
I don't know what he's talking about
I just it's not it's not
it should be shorter
tighter, more fun, more scary,
more suspenseful, or
to Eric's point, it should be a quick, a domestic
drama that ends with him calling the cops
so he's like, yeah, I killed that woman.
Let me face the music. Yeah, yeah.
No, I subscribe to Eric's
theory of there are two movies in this movie,
so we'll call them What Lies Beneath A and What Lies Beneath B.
What Lies Beneath B is the ghost story
one, because B for boo.
And the domestic thriller is what lies beneath
A, and I think in there, that is
a good movie. That's like if you
are trying to do this Hitchcock
tribute or riff or whatever you want to call it,
that's where you would do this. The confirmation
of paranormal activity in this movie is a
huge bummer because
you can play it as like is it or
isn't it until the very end
and then just have this like kind of nice
quick wrap up. Yeah, I fucking killed her. Now the cops
are coming. Like whatever it is. And you don't have
to have a CGI ghost girl
holding his fucking foot down in the car
like that's all just dumb
and also like if you just kind of made it one movie
yeah it would probably not be two hours in ten minutes
uh you know watch it
don't expect to like it you know if you're like a bobby z
completist or a harrison ford guy or a fucking
michel fifer person you know whatever
because yeah star power is here the star wattage
is in effect the director pedigree
is in effect it's just a fucking
a whiff all around but that is going to do it
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You used to be able to branch out
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Oh, dude,
get on your pink fuchsia suit
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Oh, yes.
This is going to be a mighty title
from our childhood
being talked about here.
Is this the first time
we've done a Warren Beatty movie?
Possibly.
Must be, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Sounds right.
Yeah, so that's a good.
So that's going to be, welcome to the show.
Well, yeah, because we had to, of course, we deleted the Bullworth episode.
Yeah.
We shouldn't have.
We shouldn't have done in the first place.
We didn't do it.
It's in a box at the bottom of the lake.
Yeah.
That we actually, people are going to start believing we actually deleted an episode.
Oh, no.
No, that did not happen.
No, this is the first time we'll be talking about a Warren Beatty movie.
So next week, when we're all talking into our watches with Dick Tracy, I've been Andrew Jupin.
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