We Hate Movies - S14 Ep742: What Lies Beneath

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

“Why are you trying to do the Hitchcock stuff when your contemporary, Brian De Palma, is doing it much better? - Eric  On this week’s WHM, we’re kicking off the Summer Blockbuster Extravaganz...a with a chat about the Robert Zemeckis ghost house domestic thriller, What Lies Beneath! Was this one of the last major Hollywood films to have middle-aged people being this horny? Would the movie have been better if they didn’t confirm the existence of a ghost in the world of the story? Isn’t it great seeing James Remar play an academic non-scumbag? How unsettling is it to see Harrison Ford wear a Rolling Stones t-shirt? And how many Hitchcock “riffs” can you cram into one movie before someone has a suit on their hands? PLUS: We take a count of how many Harrison Ford characters go… downtown!  What Lies Beneath stars Michelle Pfeiffer, Harrison Ford, James Remar, Miranda Otto, Diana Scarwid, Ray Baker, Wendy Crewson, Amber Valletta, Micole Mercurio, and the great Joe Morton as Dr. Drayton; directed by Robert Zemeckis. This episode is brought to you in part by Chubbies! Whether you’re getting dressed for your workday, a workout, or a weekend getaway, Chubbies has you covered. For a limited time, Chubbies is giving our listeners 20% off your order with our code WHM at chubbiesshorts.com. That’s code WHM at chubbiesshorts.com. Support our show and tell them we sent you! Don't blend in with the crowd—stand out with Chubbies! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new SHEENPRIL, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs! 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, it's a movie with so many Hitchcock references, you kind of wish you were just watching Psycho. It's What Lies Beneath, I'm Andrew Jopin, bathtub, Steven Say-Dak, Eric Siska, Chris Fuhr, and we hate movies. Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. We are finally getting to the bottom of What Lies Beneath from 2000, directed by Bobby Z himself, Robert Zemeckis. Oh, this is a movie for your parents. Your parents did go on like a pseudo-sexy date night?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Oh, yeah. I miss those pseudo-sexy date nights. You know, the thing is, I didn't really care for this movie that much. But if I had seen it in the theater now, as big movie stars, a little sexy, little ghosties. If you saw it now, if I saw it now, I don't think I'd like it, but I would get a phenomenal nap. Just one of the better naps that you can have at the movie. It just nothing happens, my lord. to nothing. It is a big time, nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It's like 30 minutes and nothing happens for the first 30 minutes or so. But I kind of like that. I like settling in. Sure. New England. But then once you hit that 30 minutes, something better start happening. Something better start happening. You know what might start happening actually? I might hit play real quick.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Coming soon to theaters. Look at this. It's the VHS trailer game. Holy shit. Favorite game about obsolete materials. Hosted by me, your J-Master Stephen Sadek. I wish there was vodka in this. Chris, don't you dare grumble. That's supposed to be me right now.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yeah, Chris has no reason to grumble because he is in a comfortable lead here. He is the Boston Celtics of this game. That doesn't bode well. No, they're doing. They're going to the fucking NBA championship. Okay, currently fine, but generally speaking. All right, basketball boys, what's the worst team in the NBA right now? Oh, good question.
Starting point is 00:02:27 That would be not the Atlanta Hawks, but they're close. Because there's like, there's like two or maybe three still playing. No, no, in the real, in the whole. Oh, in the league. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, it would be like the Charlotte Hornets. That's you. Oh, they're bad.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah. I'm the Charlotte Hornets. Yes. And Andrew is kind of actually the Knicks because he's, he did pretty well, but it's still pretty far behind. Chris has 80 points. Andrew has 54 points. Eric has 22 points.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Still anyone's game. Anybody's game. should say that this is the beginning of the summer blockbuster extravaganza. So this is sort of, we're rounding the last corner here for this season. So it's a statistical and mathematical improbability. We can see what's going to happen. So I could just take a nap right now. What is, you should put on one last name beneath it.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Dude, you'll go right out. The, we're talking about what is at stake, I believe, is a redo episode. of We Hate Movies, as well as a cameo slush fund of their choice. And if we remember the third one, it is a We Love Movies episode of their choice as well. So it's a big, big kit kiboodle for this time around. You up the ante this year. I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So that's at stake. So everybody, there's still room. And, you know, I believe in the last couple, I'll try and like really jam some shit in there to try my best to make it that someone else could possibly win. See, because that's what you should do, Steve, right? It's like beneath the planet of the apes, right? Like, you're going through, you're watching that movie, and you think it's one thing the whole way through. In this case, yeah, we're thinking the one thing, Chris won.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But then the end of the movie, there's an atomic bomb that Charlton Heston explodes. And that could be some sort of bonus round, what with a DVD round and whatnot. And you're like, oh, I don't know, 50 points. If you get this nothing movie I've heard about. Sure. The old, the old family feud thing where it's like, Hey, the first 24 minutes didn't count. Here's a fucking coin flip to see which family wins.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But that also means family feud. You got to walk over. You got to kiss me. Oh, I'd love to be kissed. Okay. We'll see, Eric should be doing the kissing because he's the one that's got the mustache. I would have to host the show that maybe I take over the VHS trailer game. You know, people have suggested that for next year that somebody else becomes Jamestor and I get thrown in the mix.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Uh-oh. It's an interesting idea. I think so. And it might be the person who's won the most. I think that Chris might be able to be a serpius chain master. Should he win? We don't know yet. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:05:04 These are ideas we're having. Okay, here we go. All right. Let's do it. You know how to go, blah, blah, if you bring in and you lose. You do you know. Yeah, da, da, da, da, da, da. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Round one, there's four, there will be four rounds. This is, by the way, off the 2000 VHS of what lies beneath. So keep DreamWorks in your mind. Keep the year 2000 in your mind. Think of, think, think, think. Here we go. Round one. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:30 A game-changing... Oh, powerful. Round one. Game Masters Kalu. Thanks. I forgot what we were doing for a second. A game-changing animated blockbuster starring two S&L alums.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Andrew Jupin. Shrek? It is Shrek for five big points. Nice. I like that, yes. Looks like you're living in the swamp now, Chris. Oh, yeah. He's bathing in my shit.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Oh, yeah, take that Chris. That outhouse was right next to there. I was watching the trailer. That looks like almost like a fun movie, you know? Like, because it's mostly about the fun fairy tale jokes in the trailer. It's like, comes to your movie about these fairy tale jokes. Oh, look, look at the, the Pinocchio's up to that guy. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It leaves out all the classically repulsive lines like, my taint is cracking. And then they're just singing the macarena. Yeah, yeah. There's no smash mouse that is whatsoever. All right, round two, here we go. No, wait, sorry, no smash mouth in the trailer. You're kidding? Yeah, it was an early trailer.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It was like coming May. It was like nobody knew what this thing was. Fuck, dude, that was a fucking different time. Thank you very much. It was a pre-Shrek America. You know what I mean? God, if I could go back. It was my America.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It was pre-Shrek America. If I could change one thing. No gross little swamp monsters. What are you changing, dude? I would not stop 9-11 or Hitler or anything. I would stop Shrek. That's the move. All right, round two.
Starting point is 00:06:55 On that somber note, Game Master's Klu! A star-studded underwater pot boiler starring a New Jersey 80s musician who had a brief dalliance as a hunky actor. Underwater War Pot Boiler, by the way. It's a war movie. Andrew Juppin? U-571. Ooh, there is.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Starring, you bet your ass, John Bon Jovi. John Bon Jovi is in it. Can I tell you how I saw that movie in theaters really quickly? because it came out I was still underage to see R-rated movies at the time and Gladiator was out and we were like
Starting point is 00:07:34 all right let's buy tickets to U-571 and then sneak into the Gladiator and then the prick fucking manager the theater had like a cut through middle hallway where you get from one end to the other without going back out to the lobby so we were like oh buy U-571 over here walk across Gladiator over here
Starting point is 00:07:51 this dude cuts us off at the pass with his fucking hands on his hips like which theater you think you're going to and we were like you 5-7-1 and he goes yeah and if I catch you in the other one I'm calling the fucking cops what are they gonna
Starting point is 00:08:08 do the police get the police officers in here a month later that guy would become my fucking assistant manager at the multiplex and he was one of the biggest fucking pricks I've ever met in my life it sounds like it is
Starting point is 00:08:22 did he remember you oh there's the theater the theater jumper. No, he didn't, but it turned out his fucking older brother took my sister to prom, like back in the 90s. And I was like, all right, well, your brother, you know, he seemed like a nice dude, but you, sir,
Starting point is 00:08:38 fucking suck a dog's dick. You're practically family. Kind of saw the Connor O'Malley's character and I saw the TV glow a little bit. I'll take your word for it. For anyone who's seen it and anyone knows of Conor O'Malley. He's really fun of that movie. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Round three. Um. Game Master's Kalu. Whoa. A semi-autobiographical love letter to 70s rock by a writer-director who lived and reported it, man. Andrew Jupin again. Almost famous? It's almost famous.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Look at that. Chris, what's wrong? Is your headphones working? Chris was, to be fair, to be fair. Chris raised his hand. He did raise his head right after Andrew. This is what happens every time is he gets the Shrek thing and then, Eric starts acting like his donkey.
Starting point is 00:09:28 That's right, I'm your donkey. You know, that one, though, because it was like 70s rock, semi-autobiographical for his second dudes, you know what else was around that time? I think it was 2001. Was that rock star movie? I was almost thinking of Detroit Rock City as well. That was a few years before, I think. Yeah, like 98 maybe or something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Did anyone watch the director's cut of almost films that ever have? Untitled? It's great. Is it great? Is it great? Is it? Yeah. It's been a
Starting point is 00:09:54 long time since I've even watched almost famous in general for the long time. It's been a long time and I remember
Starting point is 00:09:59 being like like eh. Wow, really? Oh, wow. At the time but it's been
Starting point is 00:10:03 a while. I love that movie. I hadn't rewatched it in ages and then when the untitled cut came out
Starting point is 00:10:09 on 4K I bought it and watched that for the first time I think it might even be better than the theatrical cut.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's a really good movie. Yeah. It's long as fuck but yeah. It is very long. More Foffman at least? that's a good call
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm not sure Is there more Gandalf There's definitely more Gandalf Absolutely And talking trees for sure All right last round Here it comes Christophiles shows up
Starting point is 00:10:34 Oh hello Stillwater Oh let's get on the tour bus With James Fallon Here it comes Round four Game Masters Klu
Starting point is 00:10:45 A Clintonian Fable about the excesses of congressional hearings and oversight this time the contender it's the contender oh man yeah a clean sweep for andrewin that that's great sweep look at that
Starting point is 00:11:02 that put Andrew within six points wow Chris Cabin there you go so there you go Eric might be able to help yeah I'm catching up you catch it up so what lie what does Lebedee the VHS trailer game
Starting point is 00:11:23 because it's lies because the opening right it's like what lies beneath oh sure because it's full of lies and the game is rigged now I'm guessing by Eric and Steve's reactions this was the first time you'd seen this movie
Starting point is 00:11:42 I think my mom rented it and I was kind of in it out of the room when it was on yeah that's that's one way to watch it miss anything uh 20 years did you did you see it in theaters or no oh yeah i saw it in theater fuck yeah see it must have been Andrew or Chris because you guys have been harping on this movie we've been doing this show 14 years or more than that who the fuck knows how long yeah and we've been mentioning this is going to be an episode i think since we started the show yes and here it is finally i saw this in theaters this start uh this opened um the week i started working
Starting point is 00:12:17 at the multi-plank. So I started working on like a Tuesday or something, doing like, you know, early training stuff. And then it opened on that Friday. So this was one of the first ever, like, I got to see it for free excuses I have in my life. Um, so I remember just being like, oh man, how great is this? Like, I'm going to be able to see all these free movies. How fucking cool Harrison Ford, Robert Zemeckis, Michelle Pfeiffer in this movie. Awesome. Oh, man, was I let down. Boy, oh boy, was I let down. And I was letting everybody know about it on that staff. how shitty I thought the movie was and also the fact that the trailer
Starting point is 00:12:51 100% tells you everything in the movie it tells you every single turn it confirms every single mystery all in this trailer and I'm going off about it and the fucking not the same manager the big cheese guy this old fucker this old New England fucker whose name
Starting point is 00:13:07 so perfectly was Dick just hears me going off about it and just starts laying into me and I don't know if he had even seen it or what the deal was or if it was like besmirching the product on the floor or what? But he starts going up, oh yeah, oh yeah, you think it's so bad? What was so bad about it? Tell me what was so bad about it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Do you think you could have done a better job? Oh, that's always agree. I love that. Yep. Dude, and I just went, maybe. Yeah, why not? Oh, rest in piss, dick. You think you could write a better movie than clock, Greg?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Good fucking luck. What is that mystery? this was the first thing, the first screenplay Clark Gregg had ever been hired to write. And I don't know why. Just explain to kids at home who Clark Gregg is, right? It's like the one guy that shows up in all the Marvel movies that wears a suit and is like, I'm from Shields, right?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yes. Yeah, Agent, whatever, from agents of Shield. He's mostly an actor. He's appeared in tons and tons of stuff. He wrote three movies, this one. Oh, my God. What was that middle one? That was a fun middle one he did.
Starting point is 00:14:19 A choke. Choke, right. I remember being not good. I don't think I saw it. It was Rockwell and it's a Chuck Polokanehack. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yes, indeed. And then he did Trust Me in 2013, which is, as Andrew pointed out to me earlier,
Starting point is 00:14:36 he directed it, he directed it, he wrote it, he starred in it. I have no idea what this is. Exactly. Thank you. Exactly. It's from like 2013. He plays. a like talent agent.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, it's like an industry comedy. It's an indie industry comedy. Well, it's interesting. This movie, apparently a documentary filmmaker, Sarah Kornatchian, adapted a personal experience with the paranormal as a script treatment featuring a retirement age couple dealing with a restless but compassionate spirits.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Compassionate. DreamWorks bought that. They're like, hey, Clark, Greg, Why don't you figure it out? Wow. Okay. So this lady's fucking husband killed someone. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Well, not so compassionate to spirit. Well, wait. Who's dick did he hand job? What? How did that happen? I think he saw fucking like Bobby Zemeckis like, you know, push a lady off a bridge under the cover of night or something. Hey, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He was like, hey, you want to write what lies beneath? And like, that was how it started. I don't, I don't understand. end it. Like you figured there would have been like, I don't know, some TV episodes or maybe he'd written some other things before, but just to be handed screenplay duty for a big, what do we say? It was like a hundred million dollar movie from Universal with two huge stars and a huge director. What the fuck? A hundred million for what? Yeah, where did that money get flushed? Dude, I mean, honestly, Harrison Ford, you're getting the deal together for this movie in
Starting point is 00:16:12 the late 90s, right? So, like, he's still, you know, huge powerhouse, Harrison Ford. She was only a few years off from Catwoman and, like, well, she had that big Robert Redford movie. What was that, Chris? Was she not close and personal? Yeah, she was. Yeah, yeah. So she's still, you know, a known. They're great stars. These are good stars in your movie, but what are you doing with that money besides giving it to the talent. You're just doing CGI shots that you don't need to do. You also had to pay to get Miranda Otto from Australia. in a crate. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The quarantine time that takes for her to come from Australia back to America. And you have to buy all those big leaves that she eats and the bamboo.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But Steve is correct. This is the time when there was part of every production budget is saving someone from the wilds of Australia. And they have to act in all of our movies now.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I think I know what the Clark Greig thing is because I had, I remember he did show up in a lot of David Mamet movies. Yes. Like, he was his guy for a little bit there. He's in the state in Maine. He's in things change. So are you saying David Mamet like, threw this away. It was like, here, why don't you do it? Yeah. Well, because Mamet was
Starting point is 00:17:23 doing fucking, uh, uh, what's it called writeups, like, uh, tuneups. Yeah, I have punch ups on scripts for all throughout the 90s, like constantly. Uh, so I, I would bet he gets one. He's like, Clark, I know you wrote a few things. Why don't you take a hand on this? You know, Bobby Z's going to do it. Who knows? Right. Yeah. Hey, Clark, you know how you're always like pushing scripts my way? And I throw them in the garbage immediately. Well, here's one that you can write.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Well, the person that had the treatment or whatever that Steve was alluding to, Sarah Kurno-chan had an interesting career. She directed Marjo, a big documentary from the 70s. Right movie. She wrote nine and a half weeks, Summersby as well. Oh, boy. Just let her write it.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I don't know. Yeah, so she's got actual screenplay, experience. I don't understand this. If she wrote it, something might happen within the first 140 pages as opposed to nothing happening and then a little something happened. It looks like she had a lot of writers. She was someone brought in perhaps. There's a lot of writers on these movies. So I don't know. Somebody had to. John Sales was doing it for so long for everybody. Somebody had to take the load off. So you had to get people like man. And yeah, I guess you throw this too. like I don't know why they didn't
Starting point is 00:18:41 I bet you probably because the original version was good and was supposed to be for like a $20 million movie and not a $100 million movie those are two different animals and maybe it ended ended 25 minutes earlier that would have helped Oh my God that would that be so
Starting point is 00:18:56 I mean like again I'm just I mean you're a Hitchcock expert Andrew are a lot of Hitchcock movies two hours and 10 minutes I don't believe so No I mean some of them some of them hit that I think like North by Northwest is over two
Starting point is 00:19:10 But vertigo is definitely over two Forever. Yeah. Vertigo is definitely over two which this movie like kind of references But the one that this movie references the most Psycho, that's under two hours. I think Psycho is like 20 minutes shorter
Starting point is 00:19:24 than this movie or something like that. Rear window is a tight There's a lot of rear window in this movie. Yep. Yeah. I mean and that's like what's weird It's like him playing the hits. Oh buck 50 on rear window.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah. It's like him playing all the Hitchcock hits and I'm like, I don't know, man, I already have these movies on DVD. Like, I can just go home and enjoy them because they're better made. I mean, this isn't like an ill-made movie, but like, you know, craft-wise anyway. I have a question. Maybe this could start. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Does this movie let Harrison Ford down or does Harrison Ford let the movie down? Because I think he is pretty bad in this. And I don't know if it's like miscast, didn't care. both are bad I think it's really under horrifically underwritten
Starting point is 00:20:14 might be part of it I think he's okay in it I think the screenplay does a disservice to him because at the like at the very end
Starting point is 00:20:21 it's like hey out of nowhere now you're a fucking maniac and he's got to play maniac and I don't know that he does that so well
Starting point is 00:20:28 at least he doesn't do because that happens a lot in like especially like these 90s thrillers that we talk about when the guy who's been normal
Starting point is 00:20:36 the whole movie turns into a maniac at least he doesn't do, well, give the lady a prize. She's figuring it out. It starts to weave off and scatten for no reason. It gets cartoonish and ridiculous. Zemeckis is out of his element here. And why are you trying to do the Hitchcock stuff
Starting point is 00:20:51 when your contemporary Brian De Palma is doing it much better? Of course. But like, I mean, also his, there's no color to this movie. It looks like fucking bland as L. A lot of blues, a lot of sea foam greens and what have you. Silvers and whites and gray. and it's fucking disgusting. Just like
Starting point is 00:21:11 if nothing happened, you don't remember everything because it just feels like a breeze going through a window. It's a ghost movie. That's why it's got to be blue and silver and dark. What if?
Starting point is 00:21:21 When nothing is happening, there may or may not be a little fucking ghost face somewhere off in the CGI. Boy, that shit is just so totally uninteresting. It's like they took that
Starting point is 00:21:34 the thing from a, remember in the mummy when they're getting chased by that, sandstorm and the mummy's fucking faces in it. They do that at like the graveyard scene at the end of this movie the last shot of the movie is
Starting point is 00:21:46 yes, Michelle Pfeiffer putting a flower on this lady's grave and then her face if you look the right way is in the snow and it's like I did not notice that at all. It did not notice that at all. It makes the movie worse now that I know that. It does make the movie
Starting point is 00:22:02 worse. A little like cinematic magic eyes or whatever. It's so stupid. Like I just, I hate that touch so much and that's the thing like Bobby Z he has always been like a moth to a flame when it comes to new Cinematech and I will always respect
Starting point is 00:22:17 him for that because someone's got to be out there trying this shit, right? Like someone had to be out there trying that garbage motion capture for that Beowulf that he did so we could get like the Irishman 15, 20 years later you know what I mean Colin, Oi Boles Oh look me Tallywacker may be falling out of me
Starting point is 00:22:35 Robs. Oi me clang are out. Oh, help me my clangers. That is a That's what's beneath. That's what's beneath Swinging about. I mean, I guess we start with, it's a couple Michelle Piper is, wakes up in a bathtub. Get ready for the bath
Starting point is 00:22:53 the haunted bathtub man. That's what I thought this movie was the entire until today. I thought it was the haunted bathtub movie. I'm like, ooh, baby. It is. I don't know how you argue it isn't. Eric. I really don't. Like that's where the ghost mostly hangs out as well. Not only Michelle Pfeiffer,
Starting point is 00:23:11 but the ghost is mostly there as well. It would make sense if you find out that at the end, he had killed her in the bathtub. Sure. Yes. And that's sort of like what you know what I mean? Like why the bathtub? He did.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Does he? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He did kill her, right? Yeah, he drowned her in that bathtub. Oh, he does. He does that big story about, oh, I, uh, I, you know, she had taken pills.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah. And there's way more, way more gravity. And, and, and to that. scene. There's way more to that scene than the turn at the end. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah, the pills thing is the fake thing, but I would have preferred. He just calls 911. There it is. That's the ending of the movie instead of doing the turn. Because I'd rather have this just be like a spooky domestic thriller versus going all the way of like, I'm going to kill you now. It would also go be more in line with the idea what the movie is, I think, trying to be about, which is like, trying to
Starting point is 00:24:07 to turn like emptiness syndrome into a thriller like yes which is weird but like if you're going to do that it would be smarter to end that with nothing is wrong we just have a new life now and like you don't have to keep switching different kinds of lives but because they do this insane thing at the end of it you're like oh it's all bullshit fuck it get it out of it's well because you do that you spend so much of the is it or isn't it and just like it is dude it's it's obviously and that's where you veer away from hitchcock because Hitchcock would never be like and of course it's a ghost
Starting point is 00:24:40 Right Like the ambivalence would be there Through and through You would not have this CGI corpse coming out And Paulin Harrison Like it just The third act of this movie is one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:24:55 Like script collapses I've rewatched as of late I could not Like I had not rewatched this since theater So it was like I remembered the gist of it But man this third act garbage town but yes so empty nest syndrome good call wait okay what she's waking up in a bathtub uh she
Starting point is 00:25:13 is claire michelle fiver is claire spencer her husband is norman is everyone oh norman is everybody paying attention oh wow their dirter is k or actually her dirter is kately uh who is about to go to college that whole thing about the dead ex husband means nothing to nobody and i don't know what it it's just confusing because it's just like They're using it like photos of him early on and whatever to try to set up like this mystery around Michelle Pfeiffer's character. They're also like, oh, does she have skeletons in the closet? You know what I mean? And like all of this, the movie's like so obsessed with all these weird cryptic redirects or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:53 But all of that comes to nothing. This daughter, I mean, she has more scenes in the trailer than she has in this movie. There's like deleted scenes of her in it. Maybe what's happening is her husband did die, crossed over, became a ghost. and then this Norman's victim, they got together on a train, a ghost train, right? And they said, let's criss-cross and swap hauntings. Oh, there we go. I'll haunt a total stranger and you can haunt my family. Oh, I see. Oh, I like that. And in the middle of it, these ghosts may or may not be having sex with one.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I like that. Ectoplasm. Yeah, basically she's about to go to college that day. Right. Harrison Ford's tried to get a morning sex going, but it's a little too late for morning sex. You know what I mean? Everybody's up and around. Yeah, like, one, listen, the coffee's on. The coffee's on. Your daughter's pack in a fucking cardboard box with other belongings. After someone showers morning sex is no longer morning sex. It's sort of a dude. Because you would have to re-showers your theory here. Yeah, I don't buy this. These people are freaks. I mean, like later in this night, they hear the fucking from across the room.
Starting point is 00:27:07 competition. It's a good old-fashioned fuck off. Let's fucks! Here we go. You're going to get louder. You're going to get louder. You think these people are like, oh yeah, the daughter's in. We shouldn't fuck. That's right. That's, you know. Oh, they fuck. But they do, but they don't fuck. But they don't fuck. They don't fuck here. He's like, oh, I guess I'll go walk
Starting point is 00:27:27 the dog and walk off this rejection. Yeah, he's like walking the dog and beating off at the same. Yeah. You take one. I'll take one. He jerks off at the pier. He's walking down the street with the dog, but he's kind of like hunched over. Like, oh, my God, the erection. A very uncharacteristic of a Harrison Ford character, he turns out one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:27:51 reveals in this movie, honestly, because he comes, he does the very creepy fucking arm around your neck, good morning kind of thing. And then after the rejection, he's like, fine, I'll go walk the dog. And he turns around. And he's wearing this Rolling Stones t-shirt? That was surprising. That was shocking and weird. But then he wraps the dog's leash around his penis and tosses a tennis ball.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Go get it. Cooper, hey, Coupe, go get it. And it's not stop until I see purple down there. It's got to be nice and tight. Nice and tight for daddy. God damn it. It's a comedy show. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:30 This dog is very convenient when he's around and he just is written out of the movie for, 20s of minutes. Just like the fucking psychiatrist. That guy disappears. Dude, the friend. Show Morton himself. I couldn't believe it. The great door board.
Starting point is 00:28:47 She's also at this moment when he does the arm wrap around. She is spying on the neighbors next door, Miranda Otto and James Remar. And she's like, oh, they're fighting again or whatever. And it's like, lady, the empty nest hasn't even happened yet.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And you've already picked up the most obnoxious hobby. spying on the neighbors through the window because you have nothing better to do. Remar innocent, by the way. He's got my favorite thing in the whole movie, which we'll get to. He looks good, too, in this. He does.
Starting point is 00:29:18 The long hair, the professor. James Remar. Like, how often does that guy get to play in academic? It was very awesome. Very awesome. He came in Miranda Otto just came back from honeymooning in Tokyo. We actually joined our little honeymoon there. We won't be bombing.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Can't be bombing that. Kyoto. Oh, Kyoto. That's right. Yeah. It's very important to the Japanese people that we don't bomb the state of Maine, or Vermont, rather. It's also where I teach college English or whatever the fuck I'm doing in this movie. Not enough remar. I'll say that. Nearly enough remire. Temeckis clearly knows about one 900 scumbag, though, because he plays him as you think he's a scumbag. Here's supposed to think he's the bad guy. And of course, he is not. It's kind of amazing. He kind of does the reverse actually, give the lady what she wants, what she's won. everything because like the first hour of the movie he's this big red herring and dark and brooding and the second the air comes out of that balloon he is the nicest guy anyone's ever met he's just like hey he has a go like he's like making jokes he's smiling all the time i think that might be
Starting point is 00:30:20 kind of like what it's like to be around james remor in person right you're like oh fuck like here's this dude i've seen him play a tough sleezo in you know everything under the sun almost and then he's actually like a sweet guy okay i totally buy it i totally buy it i totally that. And you know, this whole thing with Michelle Bifers, Claire, just like snooping on the neighbors, it's just like, if you, if this poor woman wants to cry in her yard, let her cry in her
Starting point is 00:30:46 yard. Why are you coming over bothering her? God, that fence is nowhere near big enough, I guess. She's, she's trying to get over it. She's looking through it, looking through knot holes. You are crazy. It's a freak. Like, they're both freaks. Like, the, you
Starting point is 00:31:02 said, like, the, him coming behind her with the arm like that. For all we know, that's part of the play. That is part of their whole thing. It would not surprise me. Like a choke slams his wife. An activator? Is that a technical term? No, I just made that.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I enjoyed it, though. Well, I don't know all your weird sex blogs that you read, Steve. I'm reading nothing but sex blogs. I live in 2008 and I read nothing but sex blog. But you also... Steve's sex tumblers. Because it's now with sex documentaries, right? For documentaries
Starting point is 00:31:36 It's like weird British TV shows Now you could have just done You could have started this movie And it's you could have started it Right at like the scene where she's like Oh boy the house is empty Isn't it? Let's get fucking Because you just have this dumbass
Starting point is 00:31:53 Quick drop off scene with this dirter We're meeting the fucking freshman dorm roommate Are you kidding me movie? Yeah and the roommate's name is Beatrice or something We're giving everyone all these like 1950s names to be like Hitchcock, right? Oh, good call, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Because Warren is another one. Teddy, no one's called that anymore. Templeton, who's it? There's no Templeton left. Nia Templeton. She, yeah, so she drops her off the kid. She's sobbing on the way home. She's like, oh, I almost made it.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Which is, you know, I get it. That's fun. I think that's part of the thing that it really sucks. I mean, like, if you're going to say why this is an empty nest thriller. It's because you have to see her say goodbye and she has to see her be like, hey, I'm upset about this. I don't know how to deal with this. I don't think you need to see it at all, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:44 She fucking starts talking about it in this bedroom scene. This is two hours and ten minutes, Chris Cabin. We got to cut something. You don't need it. You kind of don't I see what Chris is saying, but you kind of don't need it at all. You don't even need the daughter to be played by an actor. Just be like, oh, ever since Caitlin lives. Yeah, she left with this
Starting point is 00:33:00 morning. If you're going to relate to it so much, I think you do need to see her. She needs to be someone you know and a character a little bit. If you want to talk about shit, you could fucking cut. How about the 15 minutes of going through the hallway before the scare comes? How about the fucking 25 minutes of just roaming in the fucking front
Starting point is 00:33:16 of the yard. Too much suspense for you. Yeah. That's all just heart beating suspense. There's a couple of real pulse pounding shit in this movie. I know. Really just too much. I had to take a break. I had to stop like 45 minutes in. It was so thrilling. So scary. It was so
Starting point is 00:33:32 spooky scary stuff. what was it going to say about all that the kid oh the hallway the tension there oh there's made mention at some point about like oh yeah we bought this old house and we've gutted it and we're working through this remodeling and like a cheap
Starting point is 00:33:47 lifetime movie we've been talking about recently like the Renault's done this is a gorgeous house you see every inch of this house there's not one room where it's like plastic sheets on the wall or we're still painting that or whatever this house is finished there's like some like we're trying to get
Starting point is 00:34:03 some psychology in Harrison for it's like it's his father's old house that like they weren't with the dad and then eventually like he went under the thumb of the dad to just follow with his footsteps and then he became kind of a daddy's boy which is kind of interesting but it's not enough in the movie
Starting point is 00:34:20 again like there's so much of there's so many scenes in Michelle Pfeiffer just like again looking at a fucking hallway and the dog comes oh as opposed to like let's explore his character right She's jealous. Let's explore that, too. Like, let's tell me stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:36 His character is like, oh, my God, my father is dead. It's so crazy. And it's like, you're like 60. Come on. He's supposed to be dead. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the whole thing with Harrison Ford, you would wish then, if that's what you're actually going to play that up, have him. There's scenes with him with other guys.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Is he being trying to be super dominant or is he super submissive around those guys? Sure. Like, you can play things like that up. But like, all, it's just Harrison, being normal guy like for the most part and then when somebody says like your father he gets a little tense that's about it but we're we're we're marinating in this scenery of vermont for so long with their lives to be like this is just an ordinary couple which you kind of do want you to like let your guard down these are just nice people and then this shit starts happening but there's too much
Starting point is 00:35:23 of it and there's too much shit that happens so michel they drop the kid off michel fiver wants to have sex they've kind of been talking about having sex all day uh harrison ford is working on his, sexually working on his computer. His black ass Apple 2000 laptop. He looks hot as fuck here, right? No shirt, just the underwear on type of this thing. I was like, just a minute I'm working on my paper. And she's like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:47 She picks up some science book. And she's like, ooh, this is interesting. A bunch of sailor cells gang divided a virginal cheerleader cell. Yeah. Yeah, talk about gangs to. Oh, shit. Now here it comes. Yep, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You're going to get it. Yep. Here it goes. And he's just like, you want to fool around? And she's like, yep. I mean, they're so horny at the beginning of this movie. It's, like, it's been so long since you've seen, like, horny middle-aged people in a movie.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I was like, what's wrong with them? What is wrong with them? Usually in a movie nowadays, middle-aged people are just, like, on the phone. Like, can you believe it? Spider-Man just went by the window. They're flirted. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:36:28 That's a rap on the middle-aged. Hello, Bob. Yeah, hey, Tom. Do you have any infinity stones? No. Okay, I'll talk to you later. Do you have any infinity stones? Gang, divide my cheerleader.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Have you? Oh, you've been looking at my history, haven't you? Yeah, exactly. I don't want that. I don't want that in our lives, Michelle. Yes, don't look at his history. You might not like what you find. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:54 That's right. But, yeah, so they start making out. And wouldn't you know, you just hear Miranda Otto getting railed from next door there. And then this is like she gets up like, oh my God, like they're really going at it, Harrison Ford's like, you want me to close the window? No, it's a sex free for all. Yeah, Remar's giving her the re-ram today. The re-ram. The re-ram. You know, I was in the Warriors once. I was a young sexy man of the Warriors, Miranda Otto. That's doing anything for you? Yeah, I once wore a vest without anything on underneath it. I was kind of the spicy one, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:34 They didn't know what to do with me. I was kind of the rough one. They didn't, I didn't fit in to what they wanted to do. And then, let's, ask your dad about the Warriors. He'd really be excited about it. But you know what? I can be a good father to you. I was a father to the world's most favorite serial killer, Dexter.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I was a beautiful father to a beautiful boy. So she says, you know, leave it open. He goes, think we can take him. And then my God, you want to talk about stuff you really do not get to see in major motion pictures like this anymore. They get down on the bed, they're making out or whatever, and he's like, you know, we're going to get into this or whatever. And he goes down, out of frame. He comes back up. Her leg is now over his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Yeah. And he says, and speak up. As in like, I'm about to go downtown. You start yelling in ecstasy. Wow. So Rimar can hear it across the. the way. I want to hear it from the crowd. Come on. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:35 All right. Let's do this really quick. It won't take this very long. A list of Harrison Ford characters who do or don't eat out. Ooh. So now we know Norman Spencer does. Strike out all those Jack Ryans. Get all
Starting point is 00:38:49 those Jack Ryans. Write the fuck out. I would even say Indeed probably doesn't either. It's the 30s, dude. He's like, come on Mary and it's time for your pleasure. He does not. That's fair. The The president in the Air Force One also does not. Hans Solo does.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Hans Solo eats out. Yes, absolutely does. Rick Deckerd eats robo pussy. I only go in for that artificial tale. You see what I'm saying. If he remembers how to regarding Henry does. In the beginning of the movie, he does afterwards, he's like, what's that? He might relearn.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I don't know. I have a scene with a long time. might relearn. I used the munchbox so hard and then I got shot in the head and I forgot that I liked doing it. What do we think about President James Marshall from Air Force One? That's on, I feel like that's
Starting point is 00:39:43 in the line. I could go. I'm going to get you off on my plane. I mentioned him already. I said, I said, I don't think he does. Yeah. You know who does? Richard Kimball. Oh, yes. Yeah. I did eat out my wife. That's why he's got the
Starting point is 00:40:01 the whole beard there. You know what? The guy in Morning Glory probably did as a younger pup, but not these days. The one you meet in the movie does not. Oh, the newscasting comedy? Yeah, you're totally right. He got tired of it in like the late 80s and gave it up.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Sensitive cop in witness is definitely eating out Amish Kelly McGillis. That's definitely happening. No question about that. I think actually, doesn't he go downtown? Yeah, he shows her what electricity is by going down. on her. I think doesn't he? No, I don't think he's going downtown but he's, the guy he plays
Starting point is 00:40:36 in six day, seven nights, that guy goes downtown, definitely. I'll tell you one yes is frantic, one no is the conversation. Oh, that guy in the conversation, no, he's doing, that guy's doing weird stuff to ladies and paying for it. By the way, that's why he's so frantic, he can't find his wife, he wants
Starting point is 00:40:55 to eat her out. Yes. Couple, you know what, couple the conversation with his, also his character in Apocalypse now, I don't think does it. I think of the Coppola, the Coppola fords, he does not. I thought there might be a list of this online. I googled Harrison Ford Conalingis. There's not much, not much here. We're making it right now.
Starting point is 00:41:11 This is it. The only thing I got is Harrison Ford nude scenes. They're not that nude. Oh, but no. What lies beneath is all over this website? What about the gruff cop from Hollywood homicide? Oh, that guy does. I think so.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah, that's a yes. I'm pretty sure on that. That's definitely a yes. Excellent. This ad on this website says click her to find glorials. Ooh, Eric, there you go. It's got quite a provocative image on this website right here. Oh, I thought it was a provasic image on that website you're going to say.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Brought you by provasic. So we're at minute four of this film, which is good. We could have skipped to the ending, not much happened. So, yeah, like she started. I mean, like right here is what she starts. like he goes away he's at work doing cell division or whatever the fuck he's doing a big vague whatever for whatever genetic research this dude's doing in this movie man he might have cured cancer and that's worth at least two women dead oh for sure easily yeah that's fair
Starting point is 00:42:17 that's fair there's like some stuff where like the dork starts opening up on her this is when she has her big Miranda Otto scene just almost tense like she hears Miranda like do you hear Miranda Otto crying in front of the fence and she like pushes her eye up against the hole there and then you see Miranda Otto's big eye coming back at you. Right. This might have got to jump in the theater possibly. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I don't remember either way. But like, man, it's not even timed well. It's not even timed well. Like we just kind of like guys now. It did well. This made almost $300 million. People have must have been good word of mouth, Chris. There must have been good word of mouth. Beat the X-Men, by the way. It's incredible thing. To Eric's point, you know what the word of mouth is?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Holy shit, Harrison Ford fucking eats pussy in this movie. Let's get to the theater. Take the note. Let's do that in new movies. Exactly, dude. Dial of destiny, he should have been trying to figure it out. Dial a doggy style, dude. Let's fucking do it. Sex back in movies. American Graffiti? Yes, no. Maybe so. Oh, that guy, that guy definitely.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Look, you know what, if you've asked it. It's the 50s. Hang on. Yeah, that's a good point. It's the 50s. Yeah, yeah. They didn't invent it yet. Yeah, he's like, he is a cowboy. He's trying to be a Texas guy, so probably not.
Starting point is 00:43:38 That's fair. Force 10 from Navarone. That's a no. Burt Riddles didn't come down with the tablets about how to eat pussy. All right, let me tell you everything. It's 19771. We got a new thing. I just invented it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Gather around, followers. All right. Got these rules. I was talking to a real burning I was talking to a real burning bush if you know what I mean Yeah you got to put your tongue in up You got to swirl it a little there And yeah
Starting point is 00:44:05 I'll tell you the next nine steps tomorrow Yep your tongue in Tabaska first Tomorrow All right yeah I'm uh wait What's that Italian guy saying? No it's not gay How can it be gay It's literally the opposite of gay That Italian guy
Starting point is 00:44:20 But so yeah But she's like shaking with Miranda Otto Miranda Otto is like cryptically crying. She's like, he's, I can't, with him, I don't, oh, what am I saying? And she just runs away. She's like, oh, God, he's back. And like, she runs in the house and Remar pulls in with the fucking geo that he drives to the university or whatever. Rule for spying on your neighbors.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Couple of things here. Don't do it. One. No, one. Wait till the sun goes down. Oh, so you're pro. You're pro. You should do it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 But, dude, listen, there's two people on the show that are homeowners, and you're allowed to do whatever you want your home that you own. Oh, so, but I'm asking, you do look at your neighbors or not? I don't have any neighbors that I can really see. I mean, if I look over, you know, off my, my balcony over here, I've seen pokes. These guys in the city, you know, the city style. Here's what they do all night long. Ooh, the bright lights of the big city. Let me see what I can find, right?
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'll do it just doing Andrew this go this backfires at night as well when she's spying on remar with the with the giant rear window binoculars rule number two rule number two only use the eyes that God gave you yeah any sort of big ass you know binoculars that's how she gets caught at night you're totally right you need a book in your hand you're like oh I was reading a book
Starting point is 00:45:47 you know what if he is supposed to being like uh-huh or adjust these goggles Use a telescope and be like Oh no, I was trying to find the fucking sky At least, that's a good excuse at least Hold on, excuse me, are you Mercury? Sorry You're your anus, sorry I'll look for Mercury up in the sky
Starting point is 00:46:07 But she So she is freaked out here You know, she's paranoid about She wants to go, you know, investigate She thinks there's, you know, domestic violence happening here And Harrison Ford's like, you know, why don't we try minding our own business you ever think about that yeah
Starting point is 00:46:26 like he doesn't want in on it at all mainly because I feel like if this character had less going on at work he might be a little more intrigued but he's working on the big paper and he's got to give a speech because it's going to be a preview of his big paper and it's the thing that's going to stop people from thinking about his daddy
Starting point is 00:46:45 it's going to they're going to think about him now it's kind of great there's this one moment where like I think they just kind of get into bed and it's early on where she's like he's like I'll never believe what happened to be Claire I was a that guy at my office I really respect he came up and he's like are you Norman Spencer's son
Starting point is 00:47:03 and I'm like yeah he's like did you write that paper he's like and he just thought that I wrote the paper when I didn't tell him my dad did she's like you're so sensitive about that and he gets like really pissed like it's actually the best forward acting in the movie it's all
Starting point is 00:47:17 underneath his face he's fucking furious and he's just like well I guess I should watch that then. That's the movie that I don't mean. But also, like, if this is so sensitive to you, maybe don't completely follow in your father's footsteps to the point of which you take a position at his university that he taught at and then renovate his house.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah, that's a good call. Because especially, like, doesn't she say something about they used to live in Boston or something like that and had like a great life there? And then it was like, got to go teach a daddy's university now. Exactly. Like, he's basically doing the, the Hunter Fieri
Starting point is 00:47:52 school of nepotism where he's just following in his father's footsteps just sitting there on the sidelines going on drivers dives and dives you know what's good
Starting point is 00:48:01 Eric knows what's talking about I'm all about Hunter Fieri my guy is this kid getting in on the triple D is that right he's getting on the triple D he's rolling out
Starting point is 00:48:10 he's rolling out he's rolling out he's rolling in he's everywhere now he's even on the guy's grocery games if you could believe it if you could believe it I just like Fuck me. I could go into work with your father every day like that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Bizarre. Someone's got to wear the crown. Somebody's got to put it on one of these days. That's true. So Ford is like, all right, listen, you know, he works at the university. I'll ask around the psych department, see if, you know, see, get a, get a temperature here. What do people feel about this fella? She's like, all right, that sounds good. No, it's not. It's not good enough at all. She's got to go over the next morning under the auspices of, oh, here's a welcome to the neighborhood basket. Get the fuck. off my property. I'm surprised there wasn't like a recorder in there.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You know, some type of audio equipment to try to figure out what's happening next door. You wear a wire. Hey, are you wearing a wire? No, I just asked that for all visitors that come on my property. But so she's like getting it together. She goes over there. No one's answering the door.
Starting point is 00:49:13 But uh-oh, there's this bloody shoe on the porch. And it's like, bum, bum, bum, another. clue here nothing in the movie it's never even explained what the blood where the blood's from or excuse me when they tried to contact the beyond it's very important
Starting point is 00:49:32 when they have the wine mom Ouija it's it's very important but it does it's you know that's and that's the end of the shoe like the shoe never comes back oh no that's nothing that's the most I mean really with all this time
Starting point is 00:49:48 the one thing you would think is that this wouldn't be so tight, like, it wouldn't just be so completely like, this happens because this happens and this happens, like it's all superstructured like that. But it is, they just take so fucking long to do everything. They take so long to do everything. And how derange it?
Starting point is 00:50:04 Michelle Fiver, just stealing your neighbor's dirty shoe. She left outside because it was dirty. And if I do that, it's a huge problem, but if she does it, it's totally fine. Because she's not immediately putting it to her nose. She's not doing that like that. You've got to learn to bring it home first. You
Starting point is 00:50:20 Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. But, like, while that, you know, is, you know, she leaves the basket, goes away, this annoying friend Jody shows up. This is a character that if it were not a, like, a spook house movie, if this was like a domestic thriller, this is the equivalent of, like, the upstairs neighbor and single white female that fucking gets it. Like, this Jody would be found in the lake before credits roll.
Starting point is 00:50:46 That'd be nice. At least something would happen on page 58 of the fucking movie. You know what I mean? She just shows up. Apparently she's a new divorcee. You know, she's like, she's also concerned. There's this very vague car accident that Michelle Pfeiffer was in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 One year ago today that, you know, it's, it's here to, you know, well, with, you know, Caitlin being gone and it's been a year since the accident. The twist towards the end is the accident was, I guess, so severe. She forgot she saw her husband fucking some lady. Yeah. And, like, that's, that kind of stuff, if you didn't confirm the existence of ghosts in this movie, that's the kind of shit that you want to leave in here, right? And it's, you know, you would play that this movie would play out, I believe, like the Hitchcock movie, I believe it's called Suspicion with Carrie Grant. It's a movie all about this lady's like, is my husband a fucking murderer?
Starting point is 00:51:44 And like the movie leaves like little breadcrumbs along the way to like hint to. at it one way or another. And like that kind of shit, yeah, like at the end of the movie, the big reveal would have been her remembering the car accident and kind of going from there and not so much ghost girl pulling us down to the depths here. Yes. But yeah, you know, we got things like fucking, there's a spooky power out as that happens while she is playing solitaire alone in this house. And then this is where she thinks. So this is another, this is like the fucking The Simpsons episode here with Bart where like
Starting point is 00:52:18 She sees him loading what looks only to be like a body in the back of this car. And this is where it's like there's red herrings and then it's like you got to kind of explain why it's not actually the thing they think it is. Right? Like this is like it's raining out. It's the middle of the night. James Remar has driven this geo. He's backed it right up to the porch. So there's like a big tire tread, you know, in the lawn and whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And like he's clearly struggling with a body shaped thing. To get it in the car in the middle of the night Right. I accidentally knocked over Miranda Otto's favorite house plan. Yeah, exactly. They explained that body scene briefly about how.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Oh, did I miss that? They do. Like, Remar. There's a back and forth. I think it was with when Mary Miranda Otto's character comes over for coffee later in the movie, that they got into a big fight. She had gone to her mother's house in Providence.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And he was going to come and bring her stuff. Oh, that's what that line is? Yes, this ill-defined sack that looks like a corpse is just her stuff. Yeah. That is bullshit. I do remember that line, Eric. What's a bunch of fishing poles wrapped up?
Starting point is 00:53:31 That's the only other thing that could be. Oh, I hear, honey, I have all your fishing poles and cinder blocks wrapped in this canvas bag tied with belts for you. But when they got, when he got there to drop it off, they got into this conversation, and she decided to go back with him. And they seemingly now live happening. ever after. Sure. Yeah, other than this neighbor they got here. And that car that he was using there, that must have been the back to the future car that lifts up and fucking drives away. It's just like it immediately fucking just disappears. There's no tire tracks. It's fucking gone, man. It's a ghost car. It does it more than once. It reappears and disappears to be spooky. It's supposed to be a spooky car.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It's very scary. It's very, I can't say, oh, oh, oh, sad to see. Oh, boy. Because she sees what's going on here struggling with Miranda Otto's stuff in the trunk. And she wakes up Harrison Ford. And, of course, he thinks the fucking house is burning down. He's freaking out because she's screaming or whatever. And then, yeah, she's like, look, you've got to see this. And the fucking car is totally gone. It's so great that he's like a murder.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Like, this is nothing to do with the haunting. No. No, nothing. It's two separate movies. Yeah. James. Yep. Because, and the movie changes once that air comes out of the, like, literally because it's like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:47 is he doing it? It's all this one movie about that. And when she confronts him and like, you know, she makes a fool of herself, that's it. You know what I mean? And then the movie has to like reset itself because it's like, oh, all right. So the red herring that you assumed was just going to go throughout the entire movie, right?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Like she doesn't, or James Stewart doesn't change suspects in the middle of rear window. It's the same neighbor he's suspecting of killing his wife, Raymond Burr, the whole time. this movie is like oh it's definitely not oh there's 70 minutes left well there's this great well you know what we're setting up these setups in this movie are so clumsy
Starting point is 00:55:26 and so obvious there is there's this one part where I think she's you know again like something happens at the house like the power goes out you know whatever whatever bullshit little scares happened sure she runs over to Harrison Ford's office and there's these researchers working with a mouse and
Starting point is 00:55:44 This guy's like, yeah, we're going to give him some halithane. The woman's like, what's halithane? And he's like, well, it's interesting. It's a little paralytic. It'll knock this mouse out for about five or so minutes. He'll be awake and be able to see and hear what's going on to him, but he just won't be able to move a muscle. Then she goes, could it work on all mammals?
Starting point is 00:56:01 Oh, yes, all mammals. Don't worry. It's just like, I fucking know it's coming. What's this? What's this? Oh, this is foreshadow. Oh, what you do is you say this now, and that means that later it's going to definitely happen.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And you should listen to right now what's happening. Chris, it's actually Boreshadow. Yes, of course. And then I think you're not wrong. I'm pretty sure on the same scene. The next scene he's driving her back. I can't believe you got bothered me at work with that scare stuff. And then they're on the bridge and she's like, oh, do you have a cell phone signal?
Starting point is 00:56:32 You know you only get a cell phone signal in the middle of the bridge. Sure. Yeah, wherever that falls in this movie. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. I honestly, it would be better if they did put like science. winds up and just be like, do you get it?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Like, go full parody movie. If you're going to bore me like this, fine. Give me a couple laughs. I think this is also why you start front-loading it with them going to the school, you know, with dropping the kid off. So there's so much like stuff that doesn't, so much stuff that seems inconsequential to the plot that maybe you'll forget that these are actually the ones that are consequential.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, right. I mean, meanwhile, ghost shit is happening. Like, there are doors that are. opening. The stereo turns on by itself at one point. The dog, the bulk of the dog's purpose in this movie is, you know, he refuses to jump in the lake to get his famous tennis ball. Now, I would think that, you know, because they say something like, this all happened last year, right? Spoiler alert everybody. And if you watch the trailer, there were no spoilers for this movie because the trailer did the job. Harrison Ford fucking killed this girl and dumped her body
Starting point is 00:57:41 in the lake. Now, they say it's like, a year since that happened. You're telling me that this is like the first time they've gone to throw that dog's ball. Yes. Into the lake? I don't think so. This dog would have been refusing that like, no, there's a fucking body down. The way you get around it, it's logically, it's like, oh, maybe the house was still being renovated for so much of that year that they haven't been there. I can offer another explanation here. And that is that usually every morning, he will go down. Harrison Ford will go down with the dog, and he will jerk off into the lake
Starting point is 00:58:18 to get that morning hard on off. And that tells the dog to stay away. The dog knows already. You're hungry baby. You hungry down there and your watery grave. But now, but now, since his whole schedule is completely off, because A, his wife's going a little crazy, and also he's got to deal with his daddy's paper that he's dealing with right now.
Starting point is 00:58:40 So he hasn't done it. So now the dog goes in and is like, look, oh, oh. I don't know if I want to do that The only time I'm kind of okay with There is a cool like Michelle Pfeiffer Does she see the thing The dead body in the water And like there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:59:00 That was cool Like yeah that she sees it And she sees a face in the tub at one point Yes But the tub is like really obvious This is like really subtle Like you as the audience You as the audience are kind of seeing it
Starting point is 00:59:11 Like I think that that is well done And it's also a tense moment because it's just, it's a head floating just under the water. I mean, you can definitely see it, but it's like you as the viewer are waiting for the eyes to open or the head to turn and look at her
Starting point is 00:59:26 or something like that. And it doesn't which is kind of nice and then like she gets distracted and then looks back and the face is gone. So like those subtle like haunting things are cool, but again it's just like this is two movies running at the same exact time, the speed of, you know, 15 miles an hour. I would
Starting point is 00:59:42 have ran and gotten a branch and started poking around that water. Oh, definitely. It's your water. It's your leg. It's your poking at it. It's my water. I'm going to smack that corpse's head all I want. I mean, it looked like an actual, the, what was down there looked like a physical object also. Like it looked like they actually put a doll
Starting point is 00:59:58 down there. Yeah. Or a model. And then the fucking, I mean, all the stuff in the tub looks like shit because it's early fucking CGI. Right. And it's not as, because the tub is clean. Yes. And then Jarger Spinks jumps out of the tub. It's scary.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Is the toilet okay in this scenario? Because clearly, like, you know, you want to steer clear the tub and the vanity. Those two are really haunted. You're worried about taking a shit on this woman's face. I mean, what, where did he drown her? Like, was it both the faucet and then the toilet? If it was the toilet also used to be drowning,
Starting point is 01:00:37 then it might happen. It could happen any time. Harrison Ford's just like, oh, man, chilly keyless. What was I thinking? And it's just like, Didn't I murder you? Can you clean it first? I would love a flashback to the murder of him drowning her in the toilet.
Starting point is 01:00:55 She's struggling. She flushes it once. Oh, God damn it. And then he has to move her to the top. Yeah, so now both are in play. What was I thinking trying to kill this girl in the toilet? God, you're such a terrible murderer. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:01:09 That's another thing I can't live up to my father for. That guy was a great killer. it won't stop running you would just wait there for a minute I'll take this thing off and all right now maybe try jiggling the handle I tried that already shut up and die
Starting point is 01:01:23 so we do have you know she's got to go back once again she goes back to Remar's house you know she's like I haven't seen this wife in a while I don't know what's going on she's peering through the windows we're seeing like how James Remar lives on his own he needs somebody else in that house
Starting point is 01:01:41 with a man like it's like so bad to the point where like you knocked over a chair in your own home and didn't pick it up. Are you kidding me? My wife's out gone for three days. Forget about it. Guys weekend, baby. That chair stays down. We're eating terrible TV dinners. He's also, it's great because she leaves him like those flowers with a bottle of wine
Starting point is 01:02:02 in it. Like I love she watches him like, like a bear. Like he just takes the flowers and throws them away and takes the wine. It's like, this will do. Yep, I don't need your flowers. I don't need your stupid welcome to the neighborhood card. I just, oh, booze, I'll take this. Seeing your own welcome to the neighborhood gift being thrown out in the person's yard, kind of amazing. That means, that means stop bothering your fucking neighbors from the love of that.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Oh, yeah. So, Eric, you're saying you didn't have anybody or Chris come to come a ratat-tat-tat on the door there. Welcome to the neighborhood? someone left something with a nice card but didn't knock or anything right? They might have, I wasn't there. They left it at the
Starting point is 01:02:49 front door. You want to do like just leave it. I don't want to talk to you. Just leave it. There's a moment around here where he's like, I think it's right right here. She's like so like oh my God, everyone's he killed her. I know it. He's like we've got to meet Ray and
Starting point is 01:03:04 his new girlfriend down in five minutes. So she has to run. They get dinner. Something that comes to absolutely nothing is Wendy Cruson in this movie as like her old friend from the old Carnegie Hall days.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yes, when she was a concert cellist or something and this lady was also a fellow musician or whatever. By the way, we should say the reason why she forgets about the dinner and is making them late for this, you know, reservation or whatever is indeed because this is the scene
Starting point is 01:03:37 where she's got the binoculars spying on Remar and Harrison Ford's like the fuck are you doing we got reservations so she gets dressed really quick and he's like it was all her fault
Starting point is 01:03:47 who was messing with her face you know one of those like oh we just got here and I don't care about your domestic no no I will be blaming it on the woman do you understand me
Starting point is 01:03:57 but you think with the amount of time she messed with her face it would look better than it does tonight he might as well be doing that shit because did you hear the fucking shit
Starting point is 01:04:05 he's saying at this Him and the guy start. I've never actually been in this situation where you and the guy are cross talking with the two ladies, the cross talking like that. It's incredibly rude. It's strange. It happens. You've never, you know, not for an extended, not for the whole meal, but there's times where it's like you're talking, you know, to the one person and the other person.
Starting point is 01:04:26 That happens. My in-laws will do that with us. Oh, really? Yes. Yeah. At the same time, I've never had that happen. But I will say this, if you were in this, he starts talking about, so did you hear about Dr. Flynn there?
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah, you know, he starts stalking his intern, which is his right. You know, it's his right. He's a professor. He should be doing that. And then they came after him. And now he's suspended. Can you believe that? Can you believe they're going after him like that?
Starting point is 01:04:54 Just talking a 21-year-old. He does. It's a real, it's a, again, Clinton thing. You know what I mean? He's like, you can't fool out with that stuff. Ford says he can't fool around with that stuff anymore as in the good old days you could
Starting point is 01:05:09 finger any intern you wanted I mean also he knows from personal experience he did and then he had to murder he was trying to advise this friend to his because he fucked around and found out and he had to deal with it and he's like hey next thing you're first oh look the salad days are great
Starting point is 01:05:26 you're getting hand jobs after the lecture in your office oh it's fantastic but the next thing you know you're a drowning or in the tub crashing her car into a lake. It's really not worth it. One professional to another, just kill her and do it very well. And immediately hide her in your, do you have a personal lake?
Starting point is 01:05:44 You should get a personal lake that you can hide the body in. That would be a great idea. So do you, right, Wendy Cruz, let me ask a really question. By the way, I loved working with you on Air Force One as well. Yes, you were my wife in that movie. A spectacular picture. To see you out, we would, this is a quick quick. Does we do that?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Not everybody does that. Quick question. It's a yes or no answer. I don't need the details. I'm not a pervert. I don't need the details. I know this guy and the Frisco kid did not. I know that for sure.
Starting point is 01:06:18 But for the rest of it, I don't know. I can't say for sure. My protagonist from the devil's own definitely did because I did not want my wife going over and seeing what Brad Pitt might do. You know what I mean? I want to keep her happy. Yep. I love Like this whole ex-husband thing
Starting point is 01:06:37 Or the dude's dead I believe It's amazing The amount of work they put into this For how nowhere it goes Like you have a photo of this guy You have the backstory He's got a fucking first and last name
Starting point is 01:06:50 Mentioned in this dinner scene Markle-Marloff Oh of course Michael Marloff This of course will be something right No Michael Morby is you a vampire Oh shit there's your twist I want what lies beneath coffins.
Starting point is 01:07:04 By the way, guys, did you spot the actress who plays the ghost in this? I just looked that up to, yeah. Amber Valletta. Is that right? I don't know how to pronounce names. But she was in Gamer. No, what she really? She's the wife.
Starting point is 01:07:22 She's the main woman in Gamer. Really? So she's the avatar in society. Yes. Oh, wow. What a. What a career. Girl and a tub. I'm going to go say, I'm going to be just off the dome here.
Starting point is 01:07:38 I'm going to say, expendables three, no, Ender's game, no, 42, no, and paranoia no. I think all those are no. You don't think he's eating out in Ender's game up there in space? Nah, he likes torturing kids. No, he's not. That's true, but Chris, it's zero gravity eating out. So she could be above me while I'm doing it. Has he tried it out as he tried it out once?
Starting point is 01:08:02 but I don't believe he's into giving pleasure. He likes torturing kids way too much. You should see a woman squirt in zero-g. I've been to a few shows and let me tell you, they do some acrobatics with it. I'll tell you what, I'm pretty sure his police sergeant Dutch Vanda broke from Random Hearts.
Starting point is 01:08:24 That dude does not. Even though he's running around that movie with fucking Kristen Scott Thomas, no he is not. I think most people, named Dutch don't eat out. You know, just that just says... Yeah, no, I do not eat
Starting point is 01:08:38 pussy. Ever, that one. As the title suggests, I do think firewall is also a no. Right. That makes sense. He's got a blockade up against that particular sex act. That's what Paul Ben is. Why don't
Starting point is 01:08:54 you do it? Tell me why you don't do it. I don't know. I get really nervous. I get anxiety. I don't know. his character in Mosquito Coast probably does because you want to get under the blankets because all the mosquitoes Yeah, for sure. That would make sense. I think so.
Starting point is 01:09:10 He's also a little crazy. Isn't that what that movie's about is trying to eat out with so many mosquitoes being around? Yes, that's what's it's all about, yeah. Anyway, crazy you get some meshnetting. I would say bit to shit.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Dr. Stonehill from extraordinary measures. That's a no. Sure. I would say Mac Tannen, his brief cameo in Anchorman 2, it's the 70s. I feel like that guy's getting down. Sure. That guy knows. He got the tablet from Reynolds. He knew what was what? Let's just let's do it all. Let's go to the bottom of the barrel. Okay, his episode of Kung Fu from 1974. No, Eric, no. I think that got to be an actual movie. He probably does. He probably wanders this country eating pussy. I think just from village to village going down. down. Also, yeah, remake of Sabrina, yes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. But you know, that that son of a bitch rogue Greg Kinnear does not. No, that's not happen. That's what she doesn't understand.
Starting point is 01:10:13 She doesn't get it. That's true. My brother, my brother, Linus Larraby does not eat out. He turns his nose up at many a gift. If you hear what I'm saying. He's a playboy, but he doesn't play, boy. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're following along. here. So this dinner, I mean, this dinner is going along and it's, you know, whatever. We got the cross talk.
Starting point is 01:10:39 There is a, you know, why don't you play cello anymore? And she's like, well, one night I played a concert and I met a fucking handsome scientist. And three months later we were married. That is possibly, it's possibly a, uh, uh, I knocked this girl up. Oh, that makes sense. but also you could still play an instrument while being a mother. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I mean, especially, that's the weirdest part. Like, if it was his kid, I would understand it. Not understand it entirely, but like, it's a lot cleaner. It's his kid. He's like, well, someone needs to raise my daughter. God damn it, you're not going to be, I have to do the science, you got to do it.
Starting point is 01:11:22 But it's her kid, and then she marries some other guy. She has a kid. She's happy to be a cellist. She marries another guy. Now she has a kid, and now she doesn't want to be a cellist. It's just, it's messy. I think part of it, though, is we're told that Marloff was also part of the orchestra or whatever. So maybe that's like, we're all on the road, so it's like a little partridge family thing.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I don't know. But anyway, they're having all this conversation about why she stopped playing cello. And then Harrison Ford, just the sly dog that he is in this movie, he's like, by the way, my stupid wife is hearing things throughout the house. Let's talk about that and humiliate her at this dinner table. I think it's because they bring up the Boston thing And I think she says something about Daddy's house And he gets testy And he's like oh yeah
Starting point is 01:12:11 Well how about all the voices you hear In the house He's saved he bails her out He's just like oh yeah I know I know the who the ghost is You do? Yeah it's my old man Because of all the fudson we've done it with the house Right yeah And everyone's like how delightful
Starting point is 01:12:29 Around here, she starts going to see Joe Morton, I think, right? Well, very important she finds, she knocks, or the photo, the framed photo of Harrison Ford, getting this award the previous year falls and the glass breaks. And while she's picking it up, she finds a hidden key in a little air vent or whatever the fuck. But yes, after all this, it's like, I'm going nuts. She sees the face again, I think. this is what there's like there's steam in the the I think this the first time she finds the tub filled up steam's coming out or whatever
Starting point is 01:13:04 and she sees something in the fog there uh the steam on the mirror there and you know I'm going nuts is this where it says you know I mean it doesn't matter but like a ghostly thing happens and she's like I better go see someone enter the great Joe Moten yes and this is also when she starts seeing the MEPF thing
Starting point is 01:13:25 everywhere right yes yes The MBF rudely takes all the high scores in Solitaire Which is going to take her fucking months to get back But Joe Morton We're here with Joe Morton And he's got, I don't know I've never You know gone to a psychiatrist or anything like that
Starting point is 01:13:43 I've never like been in an office situation like this I would be terrified If I was a person Looking for help Especially like Michelle Pfeiffer's character in this instance And I go see somebody And this trained paid professional has his basement office going on
Starting point is 01:14:01 and the windows are up and little feet are flickering by like it's fucking cheers I don't know I kind of liked it as a bit quaint for a psychiatrist all I this is this this guy Andrew that's a lot of therapists
Starting point is 01:14:13 have a lot of different offices you can find one that suits you it's not always going to be a cramped basement I mean picture this Andrew you're a therapist you're like oh okay you're writing you're writing down all this boring stuff you're getting tired of some of your patients you cream your head back and you
Starting point is 01:14:26 you try to get an upskirt. Oh, sure, yeah. He's a secret perfor. Yeah, I don't want to listen to this depressed person. Let's see what pervin I can do. Exactly. Because this whole town is deranged. This is really great, though, because, like, she's having trouble, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:45 communicating whatever he's like, here, this will open you up. How about a ball of just loose red hot candy? Yeah, okay. Just take a fucking handful of this. And it's amazing because she's eating this thing. And the way that this, like, delivery of the dialogue is spat out, she's like, hmm, this candy is good. They're hot.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I have a ghost in my house. Like, just one, two, three, two things about candy, one about having a home of the house. Can I get a glass of water? I have a ghost in the house. I guess maybe that's what he does. The red hots loosen the tongue is the idea. Oh, yeah. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Or, you're a little truth candies. Or is she, or is he just treating her like a child, which seems more akin like here take a candy okay okay I tell you the truth there's a ghost in my house and I think it's a lady in the tub we've had a lot of therapy scenes lately
Starting point is 01:15:37 on Melrose Place Recaps on Melro 210 and that's what right they just treat you like a child they make you a baby again so they could get your secrets all your bad ones bad ones do that yet but there's we're trying to do a little like vertigo thing here because the fucking
Starting point is 01:15:54 Hitchcock hits keep coming He's like, oh, so you've seen this ghost. What does she look like? And she's like, you know, now that I think about it, she looks an awful lot like me. Oh, where have I fucking smelled this out before me? I have a type. That's true.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Right around here, yeah, something happens. She gets, I think this is the sequence event. Something spooky happens. She goes to Harrison Ford's office and then he's going to drive her home. But then because they work at the same college, she sees James Remar. That son of a bitch, James Remar, no, do not.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I am not dealing with this right now. Runs in and is like, you didn't James Reimar. I know you killed your wife. This is what you did. I can't believe it. And then he's like, killed my wife.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I didn't kill my wife. She's right here. And there's Miranda Otto back in the movie. And it's like, dun, dun, done. The reason for this freak out, by the way, we're skipping over a big stupid scene here,
Starting point is 01:16:54 Steve. Oh, please. Because Joe Morton's professional advice is why don't you figure out what the ghost wants. Oh, I forgot the thing goes first. She buys a fucking Ouija board from the toy store and has Jody come over to do this. And this is like, I've said this before. And I think the, you know, all of the witchboard movies clearly lay this out also. I haven't seen any of those new Ouija movies.
Starting point is 01:17:19 But like, good. You can't have, that's good enough. You can't have an asshole participant. in your seance that doesn't believe it because this is how the bad juju gets into the house and this lady's just laughing and making fun of it the whole but I don't know
Starting point is 01:17:35 Clark Greg fucking forgot his own movie because earlier in the movie she's like oh hey Catherine or whatever Michelle Fiverr's character name is like let me introduce you to my psychic my psychic wants to do this my psychic wants to do that oh right she believes in this shit then
Starting point is 01:17:49 she should be hurt God in Ouija board or something real quick Chris you said the Wii G new movies were good or was, or was it good that he has not seen them? The second, the second Ouija movie is, I honestly very good. It's a, it's a Fetigan, right? Yeah, that's one of the Flanagan ones.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh, really? Oh, that's like Wichia Origin of Evil? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's a good movie. But yeah, that's, that's when like she gets, uh, she gets spooked out because the, she thinks anyway, that the whole thing
Starting point is 01:18:22 is a bust. The girl, uh, Jody goes home. and then she gets a big scare that's when she sees the fucking initials being listed on the solitary game and all that shit and she she speeds at the university dude this public freak out this is it's tough
Starting point is 01:18:39 coming back from this this is a real like you have humiliated me at work in a really bad way you have to move yeah you gotta take another job somewhere I'm sorry Harrison Ford I think that's what she secretly wants the whole movie is to just kind of like go and live another, she wants to be Jody, I think, if we're
Starting point is 01:18:57 talking sense, like, and at this moment, she's just like, I know, what if I just freak out in my, like, he would, like, of course he would be like, we need time apart. Like, at this point, he's not just keep on doing this. No, they keep on doing it. Now there's a big cocktail party with Dean Templeton for Harrison Ford's budget, and they have to go. I kind of want on those steps in, because he's like, all right,
Starting point is 01:19:21 you'll look great. She's like, oh, I look like terrible. I look fantastic. No ghost shit tonight. No fucking listen to me. You better not accuse anyone a murder. You better not do any seances in the bathroom or whatever I'm doing to stick in the library, okay? Because may I remind you, I have a paper that's being published. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:19:41 It's Phil and Lois, and I have a gun in my back pocket. It should be on time. And be nice to Colonel Mustard. Don't accuse him of anything. He knows he's got that thing on his face. Leave him alone. He donates a lot of money to the university. Professor Plummis put on some weight.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Don't mention it. Okay? Just don't look. And for the last time, Miss Peacock's husband was murdered six years ago. Stop asking her how her husband's doing. It's embarrassing. This is also, but this is the party where they also reveal, an old lady reveals the old party freak out that.
Starting point is 01:20:23 she had a year ago, I guess. She doesn't remember because she sped home from this, I guess, saw the affair and then drove the car 80 miles an hour into a tree. Okay. But yeah, she broke, she broke like a glass at this party. This old lady's really
Starting point is 01:20:39 kind of like, you were so terrible last. Oh, totally needling her, yes. Oh, yes. I certainly hope we're laying off the spirits this evening, and by spirits, I mean alcohol, not whatever ghost shit's happening. Believe me, the whole campus knows about that missy
Starting point is 01:20:55 can we expect a repeat performance tonight madam because I brought my sister here here Evelyn get in here meanwhile my favorite part of the entire movie is right here she looks over she looks over and it's James Remar and Miranda Otto
Starting point is 01:21:11 and she like kind of was like awkwardly waves and they wave back and then James Remar which I read is an improvised maneuver goes to Miranda Otto and like fake chokes her like ugh yep it's so good fucking good. It's awesome. And it's it is also
Starting point is 01:21:27 completely unsurprising that the best moment of this movie is an improvised line from an actor and not something in the script. It's so fucking, because it just, of course he's just like, oh my God, there's that crazy stupid neighbor. Oh, I'm going to kill my wife. Oh, here comes. It also
Starting point is 01:21:43 lets you know, though, because they have like a good laugh about it. It lets you know that Remar is not taking it personally. Yes. When he has every right to be like, fuck that lady we're leaving if she's here you know what i mean oh no he's got the he's got the upper hand at this point he's definitely he he should be strut and everywhere he goes he's got all the hand you're absolutely right uh so the picture falls down a second time wouldn't you know after she
Starting point is 01:22:09 replaces the frame and everything but this time oh she thinks to pull off the back of it and sees the other side of this newspaper clipping uh and it mentions a missing girl wouldn't what are the odds there so to prove that i'm normal I'm going to stay up all night researching to the Vermont missing persons website I mean it's not even like
Starting point is 01:22:33 Red herrings usually culminate at the at the finale it's like it was James Brimar whoops no it isn't and it's the other thing right sure this is just movie number two it's like oh did Miranda Otto get killed no but there is another missing
Starting point is 01:22:48 girl if you're interested to read on but yeah this is the she finds out from the headline of the newspaper clipping Missing Girl Madison Elizabeth Frank M.E.F. Oh, my God. It wasn't the floors.
Starting point is 01:23:05 This 2000s internet man and it's kind of funny because the movie, it really dates itself here in a fantastic way because it uses the limited technology we had at the time as a tense, as a moment of tension because it's like pulling up the photo and it's just slow
Starting point is 01:23:21 internet 56 Killebond modem loading this photo. Gillian Anderson pixelated tits, regular tits. Oh, it's really obviously not her, but still kind of going to, it's going to work for tonight. Could you actually make that one a little more out of focus? Like back it up one before it, because that looked real, but now I can see the bad Photoshop. Claire, could you leave for about three hours? I just got to get this Carmen Elektra bikini pick to load.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And then that's going to get me going real good for. for our sex having later today. Look at what we had to suffer through kids today. Do not know what it was like. You'll never know. Dude, the pornography desert of the early 2000s. I had to use my brain and my imagination, God damn it. I had to do these things.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Disgusting. Awful. So this is a great moment, too. Like Harrison Ford wakes up. He's like, have you been up all fucking night? And then she's like, do you remember this incident? This missing girl? did you know her because you're from the area?
Starting point is 01:24:25 No, Claire, stop it. Stop it. Yep. Bad Claire. I love these stoppits. Now, that's like, that's Harrison Ford. Stop it, stop it. You know, like he needs a little bit more of that like Jordan She's got energy in this movie. But also, man, like it's the first, I know she's been like going on and on about ghosts, sure.
Starting point is 01:24:47 But this is the first time she's mentioned this girl that you know Harrison Ford, you know, as this character, you fucking murdered this girl. Maybe lay off the freak out. I mean, she'll ask about you know, because it is like, he is like zero to 100 right here. Like, why don't you fucking stop already? That's enough of this.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Like, oh, what's, every other time he's been like, I don't know, this is kind of crazy, but the time you bring up this dead girl and does he in fact know her, it's a total freak out? Bad handplay here. Doth protest way too much, my friend. Yes, exactly right. She calls the police
Starting point is 01:25:22 and they're like, you know, oh, no, we kind of downgraded it to a runaway. We don't know, you know, anything about it. But let me just give you this lady's address if you want to bother her. You want to bother the bereaved or whatever? Was it a cop or was it a reporter? It's a one-way phone call. I don't know what you... Yeah, it's a one-way phone call, but you might be right, Andrew.
Starting point is 01:25:42 It might be a reporter. Because I think, yeah, I think she gets the name off of the credit on the photo or something like that. Give up your sources. Give up your sources. either way Eric you're right it is totally wrong for a journalist or if I can cop to do this but like yeah here's this woman's name and address why don't you go see her and this is McCall Mercurio the character actress rest in peace she was the mom in while you were sleeping and a bunch of other shit but she's a real like and why are you here exactly how do you fit into my missing daughter lady and it's like you know this shit that you would not get you would not allow a total stranger to do this, right? Like Clarice Starling can do this in the dead girl's house
Starting point is 01:26:28 and the father's like, yeah, I go up to the room, right? This is a total stranger who's like, oh, I saw this newspaper clipping about your fucking missing kid. Can I look around her room? And this lady acquiesces and she goes up there, you know? Oh, and yeah, but you know what my daughter
Starting point is 01:26:44 loved to do is just she was that Ted Bundy-esque would take trophies of herself and tape her own hair to the wall. Of course. Gals write in. I mean, I know that us gents haven't done this. What about taping my hair to my fucking wall?
Starting point is 01:27:01 Maybe the mother had like baby hair, that sort of a thing from back in the day. And maybe when the girl went missing, she's like making an altar out of the room. Oh, yeah, that's a good call. So it's extra fucked up to just swipe this shit for Ray Finkel's mom, dude. Oh, right. Exactly. She's going to be like, the hair's missing. part of my daughter's museum
Starting point is 01:27:21 has been feverized like it is so weird but what would have been a cool twist if this was like an actual horror movie and not a domestic thriller masquerading as one the turn here would be like
Starting point is 01:27:36 oh that wasn't you know her hair or something it was like somehow hair from an evilish person and oh now you've brought that presence you know what I mean like something like that would have been a kind of cool turn I guess
Starting point is 01:27:49 That was the hair of my boyfriend, the Nazi commandant. Right, exactly. His beautiful blonde hair. You think you're talking a little kid, but then it's like this crazy serial killer, Alchemist dude, yeah. Yes, exactly. You bring some sort of like trickster into the world because you fucking feverized the wrong lock of hair. We are like over an hour into this.
Starting point is 01:28:10 We were probably what, this is probably at the 80 minute mark. You can't start introducing it. This is also starting to really, we're about to sink into possess. part of this movie. It happens right here. She does seance number two, yeah. And she does the name of two. And is this, she directly goes from that into sexy red dress.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Yes, spread eagle on the stairs there. Quite a striking image. Huge trailer moment, because like, you know, he's like, oh God, you stop doing all that stupid ghost shit. Now you're doing sick. Because she does a seance with the hair and then like, you see her, she does it in the bathroom or something.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yes. And you see her look in the mirror. and you see clearly digital Michelle Pfeiffer blue eyes that have not been this blue for the rest of the movie just for this scene and she turns her head and they turn into very bright green eyes
Starting point is 01:29:01 and she winds up to now she's like you know being all sultry and he's like no more go she'll get sad to sex and she's getting a little rough she's like biting his lip and let me show it.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Yeah she subs an apple into his mouth is that's pretty funny there is no cooking only Madison well it's in the trailer and I recognized it like
Starting point is 01:29:25 rewatching it Michelle Pfeiffer for whatever it's worth when she has to be like possessed I guess by this girl she definitely changes the way she speaks a little bit too which is you know it's something she's very catwoman here
Starting point is 01:29:40 which is kind of sexy too I do think this is not a great Michelle Piper performance because she's much better than this movie but it's a good Michelle Piper performance and this movie, if there's anything to keep you going, it's a Michelle fire. It's like a dead-eyed actress. This is a lifetime movie.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I am asleep. Oh, yeah. She's the one putting the panels to this thing. I don't think anybody else is really doing anything to do that. If this was stalked by my ghost neighbor, you know, whatever fucking dead-eyed Canadian is in this role is not doing well. She easily switches over to this crazy,
Starting point is 01:30:11 sexy monster person, you know, it's fun. And then there's that the big trailer line. She's like, you think she suspects anything? and he's like, oh, your wife is, blah, blah, blah. Yes, it's great. I love his freak out. I would just think that was like weird sex talk.
Starting point is 01:30:25 I'm like, oh, I don't know, maybe my wife will find out. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's probably my wife.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Oh, man, she's such a bitch. What? What did you just say? No, no, it's part of the fantasy, you see. Go back to it. Go back to it. It's right. It's just, I'm just playing a part.
Starting point is 01:30:45 It's my fantasy where I call my wife a stupid. stupid bitch. Yeah, it's great. And then I come. I spend 15 minutes talking about how awful my life is with my wife and then I come. Oh, this is better than walking the dog. I do love when
Starting point is 01:31:02 she's like trying to, you know, get down and she rips his shirt open, like the buttons go flying or whatever. Because so few movies actually acknowledge this and I kind of appreciate it even though it's a fucking crazy overreaction. He's like, Jesus Christ, it's a new shirt. This is a fucking lose a no shirt. Losing his mind
Starting point is 01:31:19 about this shirt tear. I think when he knocks her over, she drops the hair and therefore comes back to normal Michelle Fifer. What is, what has happened? Yes. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, she's starting to kind of remember around here. This is where she's
Starting point is 01:31:35 like, oh, you know, I remember seeing you in the house and I freaked out and I left and then when I got to the party, she was there again at the party and I freaked out and that's how the car accident happened or whatever. And then this is where we get this like, this is more of the dramatic thriller part of it, him being
Starting point is 01:31:51 like, oh, I slipped once, I'm so sorry, God help me, I slipped. Oh, my God. He's fucked. He has to say it. You know, I'm I'm serious, I slipped. I walked into the house and there was water on the floor. I slipped and I fell into it. I think he's
Starting point is 01:32:07 less convincing in these. It was a whole in one. Not crazy. The whole and oneness of it all I don't think he's good at. I'm generally thinking. And he's like being, tried to be really contrite, like, teary-eyed. It's like, that's all right. She winds up going to stay with her friend, Jody,
Starting point is 01:32:24 overnight. And Jody tells the story that they, you know, I never wanted to tell you this. And it happened literally right seconds before your car accident. That that weekend I had seen, I actually saw your husband, Norman, with another, look like a young blonde girl in a cafe, an Amaranth.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Yeah. The little hippie town up the road. Okay, okay. it wasn't a nice little cafe. It was a fud ruckers. I got some fud ruckers. I liked the burgers there. And yeah, he was there again, the zappy chicken tenders with this lady who looks like essentially like 10 years younger version of you. And yeah, and I didn't, I didn't disturb his chili meal. If you are cheating on your spouse or partner, by the way, a little, you know, sexy lunch out,
Starting point is 01:33:11 perfect spot is a fud ruckers because honestly, who the fuck is going to a fud ruckers? You will have that restaurant to yourself to have your nefarious. Chili's, Red Lobster, no one will ever see you there. I'm sorry, I apologize. I know this are a five-week anniversary. It's romantic, but it has to be at David Busters because that's the only place of my wife doesn't go. Oh, oh, yeah, meet, oh, yeah, baby, yeah, meet me at the Ruby Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Oh, yeah, we'll get the typhoon shrimp and then have sex afterwards. We're going to have the, we're going to go to the last Red Robin. and we're going to have a tower of onion ring. I found one of the final Johnny Rockets. We're going to drive for 90 miles. I will be very pissed off because I know we've done it with the last blockbuster. And I know that's more movie-centric.
Starting point is 01:34:02 So if we start doing like, you know, pilgrimages to the last red lobster when this fucking is all, it's all been drained and nobody can go anymore. People are doing it. I guarantee it'll happen. God damn it. You know how I know it'll happen?
Starting point is 01:34:15 Because the. the chain friendlies you know the ice cream parlor friendlies and they had like those some places had restaurants of friendlies
Starting point is 01:34:23 where you could get like oh yeah casadias and chicken we had one in like them we had one in like them we had one in our town that's now a car dealership because they all were getting
Starting point is 01:34:31 closed out or whatever but like there are people that know like oh fuck if you drive east into Massachusetts such and such amount of time there's the lone friendlies restaurant still available
Starting point is 01:34:43 you know what I mean Eric and Eric and I, this our buddy our buddy Justin's wedding was near a friendlies. I think, do you remember this? And you were driving us back and it was like, oh shit,
Starting point is 01:34:54 the day of, we could finally get friendlies and we all got friendly. Amy, Jen and I and Eric got friendlies and it fucking sucked. It was awful. It was a wretched meal. It was a really bad deal.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Part of that was like, you know, where I grew up, there was a friendlies and that's a thing you have when you're a kid. And it's like, oh, well, it's right there. Let's try it again. Wow, was I a dumb kid? Well, yeah. It was fast food that you sat down for.
Starting point is 01:35:21 It made you feel a little fancier than normal. I get it totally. But like, you will find, I thought ponderosa's went and you go fucking five miles into the middle of nowhere. Finally, there's one of like six ponderoses still hanging out in the wild. You want to go for a salad bar that's got cubed ham and other stuff, Ponderosa Steakhouse is all for you. So she is at whatever at Jody's house And she's like she calls him And she's like listen I'm going to come tomorrow morning
Starting point is 01:35:52 Because I need to ask you a question But that's all I'm going to do And then the next day I don't even this sort of doesn't come to much But I guess it's for sympathy It's like she finds him in the bathtub With a fucking hair dryer in there She's like oh my God
Starting point is 01:36:08 Something happened How could this be an actual accident It's revealed oh it was an accident They're just leaving their hair air dryer plugged in at all times. It's like the number one thing you're not supposed to do. They are, they do,
Starting point is 01:36:22 but like I said, they do set it up in the beginning that is there and she has to unplug it again to make it work. Yes. Yes, because she like has to push the little red button and the spark flies out. It's definitely Chekhov's hair dryer. Question for the room,
Starting point is 01:36:36 though. Because she does something in that scene with the hairdryer. I don't want to back up too much here. We got a lot of dumb movie left to finish. but she uses the hair dryer to make the steam on the mirror go away. Yeah. At one point, I've never seen it happen before or since. Oh, you don't all do that?
Starting point is 01:36:56 What the fuck's wrong with you? What the fuck? What the fuck? You don't do that? What the fuck? It just seems like a towel would be more than fine. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. No. No, everybody does this.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Of course they do. Oh, man. It was bizarre. I don't even think she dried her hair. in that scene. It was just to clear up to steam. Oh, I better take my de-steamer to the mirror here. Look, what are you talking about,
Starting point is 01:37:21 you maniac? You're overusing that de-steamer. Oh, man. So now she sort of feels bad from Wendy Cruson comes back for four seconds. Oh, well, because Stan is like his personal physician as well as his friend or whatever. So Stan
Starting point is 01:37:38 and Elena, welcome back to the movie for your final moments, I guess. And they're just like, oh, he's fine. You know, just watch him, whatever, he'll be okay. Yeah, the paramedics, then leave. And Stan seems very broken up about this. He's like, take care of my boy. Please.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Please, Claire. I love him so much. And I guess it does work because when she, when he finally, like, reveal, he, she asks him, did you have anything to do with her murder? And he's like, no, no, of course not. Oh, my God. I never did. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:38:06 And he explains what has got, what his version of the story, which I, I forget which version, this is like version 2.0, which is. I had, I had an affair with her. When I tried to break it off, she became unstable. She threatened to kill herself or you, he says to Michelle Pfeiffer. So really, I was doing this for you. Really, me doing all this was to protect you. That was what this is all about.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Yeah, and he's some line like, our life doesn't have to end now. We can just put this behind us and continue. And I'm like, absolutely, who cares about this stupid mystery? I've got the biggest house in the world, and Harrison Ford is going down on me. that's not bad good times roll exactly that's the good times
Starting point is 01:38:48 yeah that would be great you know because then just some music in this movie that wasn't ripping off the psycho score it would be great
Starting point is 01:39:00 but but his his um a little scam here with the hairdriar uh backfires because then she starts thinking
Starting point is 01:39:10 like it's not a sympathy thing anymore it's like see you dejected this girl she killed herself and now she's trying to kill you again she's like convinced that the ghost is here doing it she did it Norman she's dead and now she's trying
Starting point is 01:39:24 to hurt you and the both of us oh my god wasn't a dog in this movie too she goes to take a nap and this is something he's like he calls somebody he's like hey Tom what's that a paranormal who you're going to call guy that you know
Starting point is 01:39:40 what's his name kill him a dog or whatever And I'm like, oh, cool, is the third act? This movie, we're going to have a fun ghost hunter character? This, dude, you need to, it's like a, I'll send somebody over, knock on the door. Hello, child. Yeah. How you're doing? Heard you got a haunting in here.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Oh, this haunted is just, it's just another dead girl that you fucking killed, didn't it? You killed her. This is going to be a quick trip, isn't it? I already got the solution. I didn't even have to get out of the drive. What's that down in the water? Down there in the water. Can we just get somebody to pull that up here?
Starting point is 01:40:21 And then he's calling him whilst also, I think Michelle Fiver had been gifted a witch book from her friend. Oh, yes. Yeah, Jody has given her a book like as a gag or whatever. But dude, did you catch the Harrison Ford note that he's making to himself? Like, he's listening to this like parapsychologist who's down in North Carolina or something. And again, one-sided phone call. Come on, give me something.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yes. Give me. Let me see the other room where the guy is in and get like, give me a voice at least. You know what I mean? Like Harris Eulen with a pony tail. Ray stands. You know, Thomas F. Wilson, you know, bring some Zemeckis heads back into this.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Like, why not? But, yeah, he writes down. Because he mentioned something about the hair, I think, to this guy or whatever. And he writes down, proposed suggestion, colon, exorcism by fire. and underlines it. Okay, dude. You had to write that down? A dude told you to burn something.
Starting point is 01:41:18 You needed to make a note about that? But she jumps into the water at this point, right? And he runs. I think the hair drags her into the water as the other. Is that right? It's like she's being pulled by the hair. She's like zombie walking to it. I thought she was just like, I just thought she was like,
Starting point is 01:41:33 I'm going to go check where that fucking face was because I would do the same thing. I'd go. I think she is kind of doing that. And then all of a sudden it's like, what, like the arms go up and she gets like pulled under the water by the ghost is the idea. And I love Harrison Ford talking to this dude and he's like seeing her at the edge of the dock and he's like, uh,
Starting point is 01:41:50 can I actually call you back? I think my wife's trying to kill herself out in the backyard. Yeah. So he pulls her back up. And he finds out about the hair. Yeah. In this sequence, because she's like, where's the braid or whatever. And this is where they, they burn it in the fireplace. Yeah. And I also, she pulls up a necklace, by
Starting point is 01:42:11 Anyway, we should say, yes. When she goes down there, she pulls up a necklace and you see there's something else down there. Like, she's like, it's like, it's something loose. Yeah, it's the box. She gets, because they're, the hand, the ghost pulls her arms like down into the dirt at the bottom of the lake. I need it. She sort of pulls this thing up. More spelled out for me.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I need little ghost hands. That'd be fun. Yeah. Like little skeleton hands. Like, at the end of the movie, you do kind of get an evil dead hand that kind of grabs them. I'm like, fucking finally, dude, something. Well, because by that. point, the movie has made the confirmed
Starting point is 01:42:43 decision that it's ghost stuff. Well, now it's already ghost stuff. I mean, with the hair, the possession, the whole thing. Right. Yeah, I guess that's true. So now she's sort of forgiven him, but he slips up. They're on this fucking killer sailboat. Again, to Eric's point, let the good times roll.
Starting point is 01:43:00 You're ready to get eaten out of a sailboat? Never happened to me before. I would kill to be eaten out on a sailboat. If he can eat out on this sailboat, I'll eat my shoe fucking hurts off the time. Did you see this fucking thing? It's a little narrow.
Starting point is 01:43:13 It's a fucking kayak. Oh, it's too small. You can eat, no, you could easily eat out on that. If you do the right positions, maybe the water would be choppy. Yeah, we'll see. Eat a little wind here. Down to mission mass. You don't want a little wind when you're doing that.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Let me just put that out there. Hey, Gilligan, did you eat out the skipper? Brian, too. A bunch of rascals. A bunch of ghost rascals. But this is another stupid, like Jody says to her, like, oh, it was in the town of Adamant, which is kind of funny. Adamandium, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:55 You know, oh, it's, you know, that town, it's like an hour away, right? What she says to Harrison Ford on this boat is, so have you heard of Adamant? And he's like, no. Dude, you don't know a town that's an hour away from, like, come on. No, no, I, of course I know. Goody tooth, goody, goody, goody, goody, two shoes. No, honey, that's Adam Ant. We danced to that song at our wedding.
Starting point is 01:44:17 No, no, no, no, no. But you just said, Adamant. You said that it's a town, but no, it's a song. It's a musician. So now she's like, something is, he's still lying to me. So she goes to Adamant, Adamant, or whatever the fuck. And sees, like, some store that has a bunch of these shitty necklaces in it. She's like, oh, that's where he must have bought her the necklace.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Yes, exactly. she goes back home and I guess this is just no ghosts involved in this deep dive she just jumps back down in the water finds exactly where this shit is and digs this box up objection your honor
Starting point is 01:44:53 she does this in the middle of the night he's asleep it's been a good day we're back this guy goes to work for hours a day like eight to ten hours wait for we go to work tomorrow
Starting point is 01:45:04 then go and do this thing why are you doing it's the middle of the night yeah a note to my thinking this should have actually been a parody movie the place when she goes to Adam Man the place she has to go I'm not shooting you
Starting point is 01:45:20 is called the sleeping dog Yes A sleeping dog Oh do you think you should let it lie Oh ho ho Let it lie beneath My friend Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:45:35 Oh that's right Oh so clever You bury your dog in the yard After it dies you might as well bear this dog this dog has been gone forever you know what you've got to see this dog but no so now
Starting point is 01:45:45 thank God the end of the movie is here by yes here we are at the end of the film whatever whatever happened to your next appointment at the psychiatrist's office Joe Morton is gone like you know what I mean like something uh these are things that could happen like maybe Joe Morton comes in the house and the ghost kills him that's kind of something
Starting point is 01:46:01 you know right exactly that's another perfectly uh you know produced dead meat character right there he goes to check on the patient and all of a sudden Harrison Ford, oh, like comes out with an axe. Yes, we need a higher body count here. He's got to get away with a few more murders before being foiled. Yep. Yep. But so she's like, all right, now tell me the real story. Now that I have this fucking, I don't even know, Pirates of the Caribbean box that has,
Starting point is 01:46:28 I don't know, what's even in the box? It's like, this is the necklace is in the box. Oh, the next to the box now. Yeah. And he's like, you don't understand what that is. And this is, he's still at this point like I didn't kill her she killed herself in the house to spite me and yes I took her body put it in her car and drove to the the boat dock and dumped it in the water I shouldn't have done that and then this is where he's like uh I'm asking you to forgive me we can live baby we just got to forget all this he's like bargaining and whatever yes live with him think of that boat think of that killer house with your private dock out onto the lake also it's pretty sexy it's kind of sexy that that you have a murderer
Starting point is 01:47:06 you're sleeping with a murder who got away with it. It's pretty hot. Stop acting like he is special in this. He's a graduate of an Ivy League university. Every single one of those guys. Yes, scull and bones, you get in there. You've got to produce skull and bones to get in skull and bones.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Every single person that's how that works. Has killed at least one young woman. Yeah, I would say so. That makes sense. True. But she's like, no, like, you got to fucking call the police then. This girl's got to be brought up, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:36 I will definitely now call the police department on your behalf and tell them what I did. Hello, police. It's so easy. Yeah. Hello, police department. It's me, Harrison Ford. Yes, I killed Madison, Manus and Frank. You know her.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yes, Madison Frank. Come by immediately. We're a mile from the highway. If you'd like to make a call, please hang. No, yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for your, come here. Yeah, no, I can't wait to turn myself in. I would have been very happy
Starting point is 01:48:08 if that was just the ending and this was just a straight domestic thriller and he was just going to prison yep but no he's like I gotta take a shower before I you know
Starting point is 01:48:18 or he's like I want to go clean myself up before I turn myself in why don't you take a shower it's a great idea the bathroom's not haunted and she does and this is what he gets
Starting point is 01:48:30 to with the halithane and wouldn't you know it well because she does a I don't think anyone was shocked in the theater with this. She does the old redial on the cordless phone and it's 411.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Information, what city please? And then you have the fucking halidone or whatever. If you're a 411 operator and someone calls up, yeah, I killed that girl. Yeah. You've got to report that. Probably. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I asked what city and state
Starting point is 01:48:58 and he said, yes, here's my name and I killed that girl. I just figured I'd hand it over to you fellas. You'd know what to deal with it there. He even gives the address of the house Oh, are you looking for Are you, uh, yeah, I killed that girl. Are you looking for a Calarney girl, uh, the bar on, uh,
Starting point is 01:49:16 yes, that's right. Madison Franks works there or whatever. And yes, I guess I, I guess I, yes, I ate some of their brains. Yeah, I did. I did that too. Yeah. I tried to feed a cat to an ATM. I did that too.
Starting point is 01:49:32 You know, a full American psycho ending would be appreciated. I would like that too. It would be awesome. she is now out of it and this is when he puts her in the tub fully clothed and is, you know, filling up the tub and basically he's gone, he goes crazy here, but again, yeah, he's not doing, you know, what does she got by my door number two, Johnny? He's not doing that, but he is just sort of a little loopier at this point. Well, all right, so question for the room then, like, because this movie's already bad and boring. If he was really, no, it would be worse. It would be worse. It would make it any better. It would be worse, but more memorable.
Starting point is 01:50:12 That, I think, is the trade-off. Sure. It's like, you could definitely, you definitely would, I was just bored at this point. This is supposed to be the big suspenseful moment. It is, yeah. And like, oh, guess what? That chemical compound they talked about earlier,
Starting point is 01:50:25 we're using it. Oh, my God. It's happening finally. No, it's happening. And she can't move. He's about to drown. And I'm like, just that, I want this. like I don't care about like I know she's not going to die here I absolutely know that for sure we have found ways to drag this out even further because the bathtub is filling up and he's just explaining the whole thing is that she was going to go to the dean and ruin our lives I can't couldn't have that no I begged and pleaded with your baby just so forgive me and move on but here we are you did this to yourself and I think you're suicidal bring me and Catherine me and Caitlin closer together right
Starting point is 01:51:06 Yeah, totally. You're like, wait, who? Oh, yeah, that fucking daughter from the beginning. Exactly. And he's going to drown her, and then he reaches in, what's this? And he finds the necklace around her, and then he sees a go-gag-gag-gag-g-ghost.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Yeah, her face turns into a dead girl. Yes. As a dead person coming after. Living dead girl. Oh, no, it's a rob zombie show. And then he hits his head. and he falls down on the the you know this this old school uh sink his blood rushing out of his head he falls to the ground hey another good time to end your movie yeah but we're not going to do
Starting point is 01:51:49 that because then his body disappears when she's coming to consciousness and getting out of the tub it takes 20 minutes to get out of the goddamn tub with the toes and the chain right wiggle your big toe and she's learning again how to walk and then then we have to have a car chase on top of this. There I was November 6th, 1999. I'm trying to drown my wife at the bathtub, you see. I take a step back. The porcelain
Starting point is 01:52:16 tile on the floor was wet. I slip, hit my head on the sink, and the next thing you know, when I came to, she was dead, and I came up with the idea for the flux capacitor. He was working on that. He was just, the paper was about the flux capacitor.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Yeah, maybe that's totally right. Maybe that's Rob Zemeckis's big fears, that that's how he goes out is he cracks his head on a fucking faucet. That dude's got like those old person like what he called those rubber rubber mats everywhere. Yeah, oh yeah everywhere. Rubber's in the tub. He's got the bar on the side. Totally. I should hope so
Starting point is 01:52:54 because he is an old person now. That's also true. He is. He is. And I also, they seem like a lovely couple, but he does have a wife who dresses a lot like Betty Boop. Yeah, really? Right. He likes, he has like an old fashioned thing. He likes a pinup culture. Nice. Good for him. But
Starting point is 01:53:12 so like Derek's point, yeah he wrote Harrison Ford is gone. He's fallen over again downstairs. So she has to do the thing of like reach and grab the phone from him. Sure. Great. Call the cops. But that you can't do that. So she has to get the portable phone. What do we know
Starting point is 01:53:30 the cellular phone? What do we know about the cellular phone? It only gets service on the bridge. Now here's a thing. though. Not only does it get service in the middle of the bridge, it also presumably gets service farther beyond that portion towards town. This woman drives literally
Starting point is 01:53:46 to the center of the bridge as she's running away from this murderous fucking dude and she stops the car in the middle of the bridge to make the fucking phone call. Just drive to the police station with the phone in your hand. Exactly. You're on the road anyway and she's also got, she
Starting point is 01:54:02 grabs the wrong car keys. She grabs the keys that is the truck that holds their boat. so it's like a big fucking cumbersome mess you know when you're supposed to do the setup and the payoff the payoff is supposed to feel satisfying you're just there and you're just like get it over with I'm fucking tired of this
Starting point is 01:54:20 it's like the Homer Simpson story it was like any hit her with a golf club so dude golfing all the time did it bugger no he said bowling oh shit exactly it's just so drawn out and we have to be at the middle of the bridge
Starting point is 01:54:35 because we got to visit the a ghost in the water. Exactly. Yep, exactly. And, you know, big, big chase right here because Harrison Ford is like, he's in the flat bed of the truck. He tries, he comes from behind once again with a strangling while this woman is driving pretty safe. She crashes into the fucking water.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Wouldn't you know it? We got a big scrum here trying to get out of the car. And then, oh boy, here's this ghost girl just floating up to help out the accident scene. Oh, man. The mast of the boat goes through the car That is directly beneath them And breaks the windshield so she can get out It's like a perfect mousetrap horseshit
Starting point is 01:55:17 So it doesn't make sense But yeah, the corpse like floats up And it's looking, you know, like this girl Looked normally, you know She pulls Harrison Ford down And then like when it's like jobs Keeps him there, it doesn't pull him down It keeps him in the car
Starting point is 01:55:34 he drowns Michelle gets away and then you see this corpse falling and it turns from like this young actress's face back to just the rotten corpse to be back down
Starting point is 01:55:46 at the bottom of the warder maybe I guess it's telling you that her spirit is now at rest yeah yeah this is the haunting we'll stop now I guess is the idea you gotta free her from Davy Jones first that's the next segment
Starting point is 01:56:00 that evil Bill Nihy son of a bitch I gotta go back in the lake fuck yeah what what lies beneath on stranger tides god the next one uh but yeah so like that's literally it for it is dead this girl's soul can rest cut to we talked about the shot already at the beginning of the episode she's in this graveyard and oh
Starting point is 01:56:22 she's placing a rose wow rose on her murderous husband's grave no of course not it's madison's tombstone don't you see your face in the snow oh my god instead this end stinger thing should been at Joe Morton's office with her daughter being like, yeah, your father was a murderer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's unpacked. This now.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Or your stepfather or whatever. Yeah. Whatever it was. Yeah. Exactly. It's more powerful if he is her father. Like, what does this other dude? Why are you mentioning this other guy at all? It's just because it's messy. It's confusing. Two movies on the road, guys, and they're driving
Starting point is 01:57:00 right next to each other the whole time. But yeah, that's it. It just like, this score man just full on fucking Bernard Herman psycho score right here I mean it is what's his face
Starting point is 01:57:16 does all the Zemeca scores Alan Yeah Sylvester Yeah yeah yeah It's it's weird because like Sylvesteri definitely has you watch enough Zemeca's movies you can hear it He has a certain
Starting point is 01:57:32 style that he he does his music in and you can hear a Sylvester's score and you know it's him except for this movie. This is just him doing Hitchcock shit. None of the Allen Sylvester Flair is there at all. It sucks. It doesn't
Starting point is 01:57:47 sound original at all and it's weird to see that original music composed by is it original music? I thought there was going to have to be some sort of like with inspiration from it. Yeah, exactly. Kind of. I didn't look up to see if there's any lawsuit suits here from the Herman fucking estate, but
Starting point is 01:58:05 that's it. That's the end of this movie. Good God. It's actually, I'm disliking it more now that we talked through than I was yesterday, but let's go around the horn here for some final thoughts. Chris Cabin. Okay, so K-19 is a no. Six days, seven nights is a yes. Cowboys and aliens
Starting point is 01:58:24 is a yes. Crossing over is a no. Age of Adeline is a no, call of the wild, a no working girl, yes. Objection. Just because he's on the Widowmaker during the movie doesn't mean he's always on the widow maker. He can descend the mountain
Starting point is 01:58:40 and eat pussy, dude. I understand that I have spent time with, I've seen that movie, I've spent time with the man, I don't think he eats pussy. I've made the judgment there. This is a horrible movie, never watch it unless you are like a Zemeckas person who is a completest
Starting point is 01:58:56 I guess, then you, I guess you can watch it. It takes so long to do what we explained here. You don't understand how much fucking time is wasted with i guess what he says like technology it's so fantastic yeah well the fucking go in a lab and do that and make like fucking teaching fucking films for kids to learn how to do it that's fine don't make me fucking watch it this fucking shit sucks and like it's no to me it's no different than the bail wolf thing the fucking christmas carol thing the fucking uh uh polar express
Starting point is 01:59:28 thing it's the same thing he's just playing with the toys and he's like well i can get you to hand over 1250 for it so let's do it well welcome to marwin yes oh god damn that fucking movie uh eric ciska yeah um it's not a recommend i did not in i enjoy i feel like i enjoy parts of these movies i'll say these movies like it's it's just such a mess but i i like the actors in it i like some of the atmosphere stuff i but it just doesn't it doesn't come together it doesn't work instead I think you should just eat pussy no there you go
Starting point is 02:00:08 there's highly recommended much better time uh Steve Sadek it doesn't take two and a half hours that's for sure if you do it the right way it's all I know
Starting point is 02:00:22 no this movie stinks it's it's incredibly boring like I do think why this movie made so much money and made you know it beat X-Men at the box office it's it's the it's the Ford Fyfer thing like holy shit these are huge huge movie stars
Starting point is 02:00:36 yeah and again Fyfer's bringing it you know she gets she gets to do that dual role thing which is kind of fun and she's like sexy scary for a hot second but then Ford is just on odd he's the it's the mumbly version of Harrison Ford like I don't usually put subtitles on what I'm watching movies I did for this guy
Starting point is 02:00:54 I don't know what he's talking about I just it's not it's not it should be shorter tighter, more fun, more scary, more suspenseful, or to Eric's point, it should be a quick, a domestic drama that ends with him calling the cops so he's like, yeah, I killed that woman.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Let me face the music. Yeah, yeah. No, I subscribe to Eric's theory of there are two movies in this movie, so we'll call them What Lies Beneath A and What Lies Beneath B. What Lies Beneath B is the ghost story one, because B for boo. And the domestic thriller is what lies beneath A, and I think in there, that is
Starting point is 02:01:32 a good movie. That's like if you are trying to do this Hitchcock tribute or riff or whatever you want to call it, that's where you would do this. The confirmation of paranormal activity in this movie is a huge bummer because you can play it as like is it or isn't it until the very end
Starting point is 02:01:50 and then just have this like kind of nice quick wrap up. Yeah, I fucking killed her. Now the cops are coming. Like whatever it is. And you don't have to have a CGI ghost girl holding his fucking foot down in the car like that's all just dumb and also like if you just kind of made it one movie yeah it would probably not be two hours in ten minutes
Starting point is 02:02:09 uh you know watch it don't expect to like it you know if you're like a bobby z completist or a harrison ford guy or a fucking michel fifer person you know whatever because yeah star power is here the star wattage is in effect the director pedigree is in effect it's just a fucking a whiff all around but that is going to do it
Starting point is 02:02:27 uh for this episode of we hate movies of course if you want more we hate movies you can check out our Patreon Patreon.com slash we hit movies where just a few days from now if you're listening to this on the day it comes out which is a Tuesday this Friday we love movies is dropping all new
Starting point is 02:02:43 for June where we're talking about a good Robert Zemeckis movie back to the future three everybody that is a little movie hell yeah and it's one movie inside one movie it is it has Mary Steenbergin in it which is a huge plus oh yeah
Starting point is 02:02:59 hell yeah It has Christopher Lloyd's first on screen kiss And a picture All sorts of stuff going on there I'm going to be very excited to talk about that But that's coming out this Friday So we got that going on We got the month of June here
Starting point is 02:03:13 So we have Chris Cabin I believe A Once in a Lifetime is coming out We do we are talking about David Silver is An unwed father in this lifetime movie And it is quite a time It's you know We don't get to say this enough
Starting point is 02:03:28 You used to be able to branch out with these guys and I'm so glad that he decides to not try that just do the same thing. Just keep doing. David Silver, that's fine. But yeah, we had a hell of a time talking about that one. We got that going on. Of course,
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Starting point is 02:04:30 we hate movie sweep season, baby. We are just starting the summer blockbuster extravaganza. So Steve next Tuesday, what motion picture will we be discussing? Oh, dude, get on your pink fuchsia suit and join us in Dick Tracy,
Starting point is 02:04:44 ladies and gentlemen. Oh, yes. This is going to be a mighty title from our childhood being talked about here. Is this the first time we've done a Warren Beatty movie? Possibly.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Must be, right? Yeah, yeah. Sounds right. Yeah, so that's a good. So that's going to be, welcome to the show. Well, yeah, because we had to, of course, we deleted the Bullworth episode. Yeah. We shouldn't have.
Starting point is 02:05:06 We shouldn't have done in the first place. We didn't do it. It's in a box at the bottom of the lake. Yeah. That we actually, people are going to start believing we actually deleted an episode. Oh, no. No, that did not happen. No, this is the first time we'll be talking about a Warren Beatty movie.
Starting point is 02:05:20 So next week, when we're all talking into our watches with Dick Tracy, I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen say that. Eric Sis, Chris Cabin. Take it easy.

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