We Hate Movies - S14 Ep745: I, Robot (with Angelica Jade Bastién)

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

“Bruce Greenwood, who’s surprisingly not crooked in this movie? That blew my hair back!” - Steve On this week’s episode, the Summer Blockbuster Extravaganza rolls into Will Smith City with a conversation all about the absolutely dreadful I, Robot! And to help dive into this dull-ass flick, the gang welcomes back to the show, friend and film critic, Angelica Jade Bastién! Why did they want to make this movie so damn serious and not let any comedy on the screen? Is Will Smith’s character listening to “Superstition” on loop every morning? Why couldn’t they pump a few more bucks into these digital effects? Was Bridget Moynihan’s direction just to play the character as if she was a secret robot? And why in the world weren’t Shia LaBeouf’s scenes cut for time? PLUS: Was the most expensive visual effect in this movie really digitally removing Will’s johnson from the shower scene?  I, Robot stars Will Smith, Bridget Moynihan, Bruce Greenwood, James Cromwell, Chi McBride, Adrian Ricard, Fiona Hogan, and Alan Tudyk as Sonny; directed by Alex Proyas. This episode is brought to you in part by Rocket Money! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. That’s RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. Be sure to pick up your tickets for our summer time WORLD WIDE DIGITAL EVENT where we’ll be talking all about the action classic SPEED! Head over to Moment dot co slash We Hate Movies and get your tickets now— and don’t forget to bundle in your ticket for the Q&A After Party that’s going down right after the show that night! Can’t make it to the live show? No problem! The show will be available for replay for a full TWO WEEKS after air. So you’ve got 14 days to check out the show after it happens! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new SHEENPRIL, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs!   Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

This week on We Hate Movies, it's another movie that tried to make me give a shit and feel something for robots. It's I Robot. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. I, Eric. Isaac Kavanaugh. And I'm Angelica Jade Bastien. And we hate movies.

Hello everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. We are talking about iRobot this week. Now if you're new to the program, this is a comedy show where we talk about a movie, good, bad or otherwise, and I kind of just kick it around for a little bit. Polkhoes and it make fun of it just a little bit. This week it falls into the bad category and to help us out with this one. Returning to We Hate Movies, our friend Angelica, Jade Bastion, hello. Hey, everybody. How you doing? I'm, I'm good.

I'm good. Living life, move into a new place. Fuck yeah. You know, working. Onward and upward. Dealing, yeah, dealing with the bullshit of my job partnering with Open AI. That's fun. And training.

AI with our writing This is a perfect episode for you then You're helping build the iRobots You know what's perfect for this Like movie Smoking a joint with a strain Called Cheetah piss because that's as much As I robot is worth

A bucket of Cheapis Well a whole bucket You would think that Cheapis is the kind of piss That you think would melt metal But it doesn't surprisingly Not to be the weird guy at the room, but cheetah piss sounds expensive. Like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, cat piss, sure.

I can get you a bucket of cat piss. Give me an hour. I'll get you a bucket of cat piss. Right. Cheetah piss, I got to go to the Serengetty or something. Think about milking that thing and getting that piss out. That's a lot. Work. You would find, you know what if you'd be, Steve, it would be like when they busted that exotic animal ring on SVU. And it's like they go up to the Bronx and it's like, there's a monkey. There's a couple of exotic birds once thought to be extinct. And yes, indeed, jars upon jars of cheetah piss yes I just don't understand

like I guess that everybody got like tired of the old names for strains so they had to go into like push it all the way in monkey taint yep yeah tarantula fart monkey taint and tarantula fart monkey taint and tarantula fart will glue your ass to the couch Chris Cabin don't even worry about it

white hair white and purple hairs all over those sticky shit that's a recipe for a good weekend is it look is it no that's a question from a casual weed smoker are strains like is it dealer's choice? Like can I just name anything I want or is it a thing where like

it has to do like you know I remember back in the day The government regulates there was a header there was some good shit back in the Bronx called white rhino I remember this very clearly it would it would glue you

to the fucking floor and all that good stuff I've never seen it again or since I just think a dude just you know called it white rhino because you probably put cocaine on it I'm guessing yeah in the in the case of like

yeah dudes who park outside the bodega in the minivan and sell shit to you. I feel it's dealer's choice. I think, like, when you're talking dispensaries that are dealing with, like, actual, you know, cultivation from farms and stuff, like, those people have certain strains

that they have to keep track of because eventually they get, like, crossed with other things and whatnot. So you got to keep the name straight, if only so you keep straight, which turpines are in which strain and what you're fucking dealing with, you know? I don't really deal with dispensaries here in Chicago.

Like, it's legal here, but it's, like, the weed here is so expensive. in part because there's like a weird monopoly and the states are like some of the states around us like Indiana are like hell no to weed so it's just like kind of a mess over here for dispensaries but like my dealer amazing love her down she's great um she often gives us free stuff which i think is a sign that we buy so much weed yeah that's serious um this is great though you got to support a small business owner exactly i'm supporting a woman-owned business, a woman-owned local business, by smoking an insane amount. Now, is she coming to you, or are you going to the apartment? Oh, she, no, no, no, baby. I'm of a certain age. I am not just, no.

She delivers to me. Perfect. That's the move. And she has, like, really, really good, in my opinion, better than what I get at the dispensaries here in Chicago, like, leaps bound better and way more affordable. And she makes great edibles. Like she made some cupcakes that were like so good that I ate like a whole one. And I was like, oh, I'll be fine.

I was high into the next day. I like woke up and I was still high. I've been there. It was amazing. That's my trademark. That is a Chris Cabin Brownie. I remember on the 4th of July, my wife and I were like, hey, let's have brownies. Our buddy Chris made us.

And I had to go to work the next day. And it was like a, you know, the fourth was a Wednesday. I think it was a Thursday. It was the fifth. And I woke up and I'm like, dude, I'm really fucking. And I just went to work really incredibly high. Yeah, I put a whole, I put a whole half

pound, a raptor snob in that, right? That's that good stuff. So, Angelica, you're moving, you live in Chicago, are you moving closer or farther away from the landfill of Lake Michigan? What is it? Isn't that shit wild?

It's so crazy. I was just like, what the fuck is this? No, I am moving closer to the lake, but last I checked. It is not a landfill of shit, garbage and, I don't know, robot bars. You can't just say

that like one of, you know, like the greatest lake, the titular great lake, the one that they were like, maybe we should call these the great ones. That lake has disintegrated and the movie does not elaborate on that at all. Big problem. It's only

2035. It's not that far. I mean, now I mean, obviously, we're doing this three 20 years later, literally, which is kind of creepy. But, you Yeah, I should say this is I-Robot from 04, directed by Alex Proyas, continue. Boo. Yeah. Down with movie. And by the way, this Isaac Asimov, I haven't read this guy before, but judging from this movie, he's a hack.

Well, if that's Eric, you got to watch the credits, because what does it say? Suggested by the novel. That's like, we just wanted the frame of it. That's it. Everything else in the garbage. That sounds like the book at the ending was like Maybe a movie, the end Maybe I'm suggesting a movie here

Come on. There's a lot of stuff that they take I'm not an Asimov guy So I was just Wikipedia. Apparently Susan Calvin is this supposed The Bridget Moynihan character Is like a huge Oh boy P you city

I thought she was going to be a robot Can I tell you The one reason I think she is good For this role I don't think she's good in the movie She's not good in the movie But I can understand why Because who is she dating at the time? Tom Brady.

Tom Brady. The most robotic human being in the world. Like the most androidy guy that's ever existed is Tom Brady. So they're like, hey, you know what? You know the fucking plot. Let's go. So do you think then that Tom Brady went to the Hollywood premiere of I-Robot? I'm sure he did.

Possible. I mean, he definitely does not remember it for sure. Well, what, the CTE. Yeah. Many things, many, many. I saw this shit in theaters, by the way. Same. Oh, wow.

This, well, this was, it was 04. It was summer 04, so I was on break from college back home projecting at the multiplex. So it was a freebie. I didn't spend a fucking penny on this movie until actually I rented it for $3.99 an apple just a few hours ago. Yeah, fuck that. I did not rent this bitch. It's called watching things illegally. Oh, you know, guys, it's on 2B.

It's so, yeah. Angelica, you, like most of our audience, are famously younger than us. what were what what drove a young angelica jade bastien to see i robot in 2004 did you get the collector cop or what was going on uh i was a nigger in america so i of course knew another nigger who probably wanted to see a will smith movie also it's so funny to be like someone to point out oh like you're noticeably younger bitch i am like 35 i'm not that much younger i know i dodged this movie Matrix Bullet style because I

at the time I loved Jonathan Rosenbaum and that motherfucker gave this a positive review I don't know how he's usually on game this one he was just like no it's a good action movie and I was like should I see this and then I was like no never mind

it I'm not going to do it there is so much going on in this movie racially that I find it like insane I find this movie absolutely bonkers because I like didn't remember much of it like when you know Steve you hit me up and suggested that as one of the movies I was like oh yeah like I saw it in theaters I don't really remember much of this movie beyond like seeing how FX loved to play it because FX got the

movies they do indeed Arby says the meets but FX got them movies don't worry about that but I was like from the jump I was like oh this is going to be a bun of absolute shit. This is crazy. It's so bad, but I was laughing so hard. Well, it's just weird. I mean, it's very obviously that they have Will Smith and like, he's prejudiced. He's reversed racism against the robots.

And it's like, I guess that's what we're trying to sort of say. And then like, and also like, what could the movie figure out if robots are good or bad, even once for a moment? Like, you know what I mean? That's a whole thing. Like, so before we like, break. down like our introduction to like will smith who if you are an eagle-eyed viewer he's a sword guy he has swords on his wall what a pathetic piece of shit yeah like sorry we'll get into it because

i was like just looking at his apartment i was like oh yeah you are divorce it sort of plays into his like his ludite pride though right like it's a it's a sword it's the furthest thing from a laser gun I could have. Although he does fire guns. Pseudo laser guns wildly in this movie. There's this undercurrent in this movie where he's like Sandy Bullock in the demolition man that he's got this

fetish for the 20th century, which I know is not swords, but it comes up a few times. Oh, the Converse commercial. Oh, God, the Converse commercial, the playing records, you know, there's lots of that. But the Converse

shoes specifically from 2000. and four, it's like, look at the new model everyone in the theater. The leather ones. My brother got these. I don't remember if he got them because of I-Robot, but he did mention numerous times that they are featured in the movie I-Robot is really that means yes. Yes, exactly. The fact

that he was like, yeah, I got these shoes. They also happen to be an I-Robot. Oh, that is, that's sad. Also, like, he's, Will Smith is running around a lot in this movie. Converse are like the worst to run and there's no, like, cushion, no, like, your knees must be

like going through it. Especially the leather ones. Those have even less traction and less like kind of give. Those are more like going out shoes. Like you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I thought with a converse, I was waiting for him to go downstairs and, you know, shove the FedEx commercial out of the way. And then you get on like a skateboard. Like it's a divorced guy to me. Skateboard. Like get on a skateboard. You're trying to learn it again with your swords.

But it's, I guess. It's wild because the movie starts, you know, like any bad movie. any bad writing will tell you definitely start with your main character waking up that's the best way no one ever no movies ever start that way after a flashback memory

bullshit you kind of we let's get these bitches into this first of all it shows you against watery um you know imagery um the three laws of robotics oh right from asthma off shit yeah y'all bitches know y'all don't need to read it we all know who gives it okay moving on agreed and then like you see like flashes of

like his very tragic backstory that has him feel in a sort of way about robots and then like the waking up and there's there's just so much happening in this first motherfucking scene. I was like this is a terrible man. I understand why his wife divorced him

and he's lonely as shit. The movie's never going to deal with it but I'm like oh no, this man keeps bringing up his ex-wife. Listeners, take a shot every time he says ex-wife. and you will die. Yep.

Look, the only reason the wife might have stayed is because the man has, I'm sorry, a great ass. Yeah. His ass looks very good in this shower. He does. It looks fantastic, and I know they got rid of the dick, and they should have gone to jail for that. Yeah, but he's a kendall.

He's very unsexy at the same time. Like, I don't know. Will Smith is a, okay, this is the thing that, like, jumped out at me that I know you guys won't catch because you're white. which I love to remind I know. Well, it's good, because sometimes I forget, honestly,

and then you bring it up and I'm like, oh, right. And you need to be reminded. No, no, no. But, like, so, Will Smith is wearing a do rag. Yeah. He wakes up. Yeah. I am sorry. I cackled.

I was like, they're trying to make Will Smith in this movie be a little bit more urban be a little bit more, like, hood. Right. And I was like, Will Smith and a du rack feels like there's like an incongruity to it. I'm just like, No, you're not.

Yes. No, you're not wearing that. It's like Frank Sinatra at a baseball cap for white people. Like, it's just not how that's going to work out. You know what I? No, no. Old Blue Eyes would never do that to his head. Absolutely.

Well, I think it speaks to the difference of, like, so many of, like, the black actors that we love now got their start in, like, I mean, the two ones I always think of that are just jam-packed our menistice to society and boys to men, boys in the hood. Yeah. Boys to men had some black dudes in it, too, though. Also as well. Just for the record. Not a motion picture, but not a motion picture.

But, like, his, like, big role was six degrees of separation. Yeah. Which I'm sorry to me is the whitest movie that ever could be if you've seen it. Like, it's just like Donald Sutherland and, uh, what's, um, the wife of the president in the West Wing. Oh, Dr. Channing. All right. Yeah.

But, all right. So back to Will Smith's ass and his dick. Yes. Could I mention quickly that did the ex wife get the shower curtain in the divorce? No, he's like, look, I am so fucking hot and in such great shape. I just, like, don't want anything to block anyone who could maybe walk into my apartment and see him standing like, like very angry. He looks very angry in the shower. It's an angry, like, who is that statue-esque in the shower?

I don't know. Like, it's almost like a reverse thinker. Like, he's got his fucking fists against the wall. It's like he just got a, like, good news about the Lufthansa tised. There's the IMDB trivia, which I will not believe, which says that a lot of the, some of the CGI budget was spent to remove his cock from this scene. It's just so massive, because the studio, the studio went against it. The studio talked about it, like, at the last minute, like, ooh, let's not do it. So you're making a summer blockbuster.

Should we show Will Smith's dick? Like, when do you see a dick in a summer blockbuck? Oh, you don't remember that time, dude, in Wild Wild West? Yes. He fucking walks in on Kevin Kline. and this fucking huge cock just falls out in wild wild west you don't remember that no i i i wish i had seen that cut but uh i think you know what if you do it though that you have to put that like in the trailer somehow like and you will see will smith stick like one word at a time

hitting you you got to do it otherwise i if it just surprises you know it doesn't work it shouldn't be that would have been a big victory for them their next movie they could be from the guys who brought you Will Smith's dick. Yes. Knowing from the man who brought you Will Smith's dick. He's doing a divorce guy movie stuff where he's like eating an old

sweet potato pie for breakfast because a man doesn't know how to feed himself. No, no, no. That's his grandmother makes that for him. That shit is fresh and in a different scene. No, no, no. In the morning he's eating he eating an old one. Yes, he is. Oh, is he eating another one. I didn't even notice that. I was too wrapped up in superstition.

You put that song on it. My eyes are going to glaze over. Great song, but, but one thing that was like weird to me was like so he puts on a record okay how long is this fucking song going bitch you're showering you're working out you're looking at your dick you're looking at your ass you're passing by your little katana's thinking oh yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm a bad bitch like i don't know somehow in the nanny maybe he's a repeat he's a repeat one guy just put it on a loop oh yeah i kind of imagined him he just kept replaying it because he was like, well, this is very thematically important.

But it kind of... I mean, it's in the Isaac Asma book, I have to include. Will Smith doesn't believe it besides. He does not go to deep cut. It's just the hits. But to your point, Angelica, about how this plays out, you're right. It's a mistake making a montage song Diagetic because

what are you doing? Yeah, like that's his first like 45 minutes of the day is fucking superstition over and over again. It makes no sense. And there's no proof that he actually knows the whole song. The only line you hear him say is seven years of bad luck and then it cuts it back from it

but to the point of the pie he's only eating pie it seems like for for a while here like he's finishing off the old one he gets another one from his grandmother and then he takes that he's got a walking pie absolutely yes but that's

the only thing black people eat right sweet potato pie you know what I forgot about that that's what turns you into sin bed not fucking marble ass Will Smith I'm sorry there's a huge difference between the two of them. He gets his converse sneakers. He looks and he goes, wow, shows it to the camera.

And then later on, people, everyone's commenting on his shoes. They're like, hey, dude, nice shoes. Excellent shoes, sir. Where can I buy those? Well, go to the store. Do we have a time of year that this is happening, by the way? Because the thing is, he jumps out of this apartment. It's the leather sneakers.

He's got leather pants on and this leather, like, half duster. If it's a Chicago summer, he's got to be hot and shit. He's dead. He's dead by the time he gets to work. Like, he's literally going to die on the steps of the police department. He's also wearing that little skull cap, too, for the first half of the movie. His style and this, there's a lot. They're like, someone gave him a note, Will, the kids want you to be a little more urban.

And then he, like, took that to a degree that I'm like, this is comical. But, like, this is why it doesn't feel like Chicago. It's like a nowhere time because I'm like, Chicago weather really dictates your life. look, like very much so. Right. The summer gets very hot. He's going to die. Where you can wear, you could wear this outfit

where the movie was filmed, Vancouver. Yes, that's true. It is a befitting Vancouver outfit. Other than Lake Michigan, I think the only thing that they're really like, well, there's this, there's an elevated train. So, you see, that's it, that's Chicago.

That's it. There it is. That is. That's it's on. And I guess, like, you know, to your point, Angelic, about wanting him to be like, you know, more urban or whatever. Like, yeah, how

about some more like friends of the community that could help raise that legitimacy? Oh, I know. Here's Shaya LaBoff. Like, what is this? Dude, Shia scenes deleted LaBuff. And he's, it's like supposed to be like him as like he's sort of like maybe like an older brother

like sort of father figured in this kid because he's like, stop swear and go home like all that shit. Like, but it's Shia LaBuff and he's talking at Will Smith. Like, Get out of here with that. But it was the time. He was playing like sidekicky, annoying piece of shit characters. Ooh, I'm so funny.

I talk like this. Like, shut the fuck up. It's the same role as Constantine. Better movie, by the way. Oh, way better movie. Way, way better. I love Constantine. I love Constit, too.

I think this then like led to like the nadir of it all, right? Was that eagle eye movie where it's kind of that character, but it's his own movie now? Oh, yeah. That movie, it could be, leave that movie in the history. People who are listening to this, don't go seek that one out. Please, I beg up you. It's not worth it. I honestly, scenes deleted. They should have deleted them all. Yep. Yeah, I agree. Just cut this out. Yeah. He's so pointless. Yeah. I have never been a fan of Shile above. I mean, holes. I'd want them in his head first. You wrote that down. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is off the top of the noodle. I'm a very powerful individual. That was also from a script. I'm seeing your eyes. Go right to left there. You're right. I'll put down the eyes of Asimov.

It is hilarious that his name in this movie is Detective Del Spooner. People are just called him Spooner. It's a right spooner. Spooning, Spooning, spoon. What a weird name. And I believe his grandmother calls him Dale at one point. Del Spooner. Del Spooner seems to be his name.

He's walking around and he sees, is it's basically the part where he sees the personatching or what he believes is a person atching? Yeah. So he goes to like his Gigi's really quickly. She gives him a pie. He's like, look at my vintage shoes. Gigi, don't you give a shit? And he leaves, this is the walking pie.

And I think the walking pie is sacrificed when he sees this robot like booking it down the street with a purple purse. His interaction with this guy is something, right? You know, hold my plate of food or you're going to be wearing it. Where I get it. You're going to go running with three quarters as a sweet potato pie in your stomach, I don't know about it. I know you're in shape. I know it's Will Smith, but still, you're going to be half shitting out your ass while you're doing this. Yeah, where's the sweet potato

puke, dude? But also, like, he's running, he sees a robot running with a person. He's like, that robot must have stolen a person, even though we find out that no robots ever committed any crime ever and I guess he's just looking for it but I mean like of all the crimes for a robot to commit why would purse that should be the first of them what's it going to do with it? Buy

food oil what? Okay I think this is a perfect time to talk about the race thing because it is like okay I'm going to get a little nerdy with you guys for just a second. That's all right. I saw this 1986

short film about bisexual vampires and a black lesbian who's intellectual. It's very fun. It's called the Mark of Lilith, but there's this documentary or? No, it's actually, yeah, no.

Wouldn't that be great? A little doc and you find out vampires. It would be a great way to find out of it. Yes. Of course they're bisexual. It just makes sense. But like the black woman in the film she, like, there's a scene where she's in a movie theater and she's like just talking to the

camera. And she says something that is worthwhile to get into this weird race metaphor that I wrote by at least starts out with. She says, have you noticed that horror can be the most progressive popular genre? It brings up everything that our society represses, how the oppressed are turned into a source of fear and anxiety. The horror genre dramatizes the repressed as the other, and the figure of the monster and normal life is threatened by the monster. and this is the kicker so often the other embodies and erupts as persistent and excessive in the form of vampire zombie robot

and I robot the way this starts out these robots are supposed to be niggas prove me wrong these are obviously minorities they're like working in these service jobs and I was like they had to cast like Will Smith because if you don't cast a black person and have like a white cop doing this it like makes the metaphor way weirder

but it's also strange to also have this sort of metaphor and a black person and then make them the most obvious racist motherfucker towards robots it's like yeah the way the way he spits out canner to them well yeah is wild

and like and it's not even like these robots look like cans like it'd be one thing if it would actually matched up but they look They look like white people. They should have called this one Minority Report. Which as we know, is the most dangerous racism of them all. But the,

no, it doesn't exist. The thing is about the, oh, fuck, that's all right. It's a heavy spice to throw in at the top of your movie to then just like flush down the toilet in the face of Robot Revolution. Like it drops the shit. pretty fucking quickly after like Shine McBride kind of like choose

him out at first and then like the movie gets on with itself. But also and this leads us to AI as well in what's going on right now is like what about all the displaced people that the robots jobs are taking their jobs? There's one line where I think Bruce Greenwood who's

surprisingly not crooked in this movie. I know. I feel like in some scenes of this movie dude he is crooked and they just like fucking reshot something. Although again the The trivia that's like, oh, this movie had no reshoots, a rarity for Hollywood. I refuse to believe that. There's three fucking editors on it.

Bullshit. But no, he's playing a CEO. He's inherently corrupt and evil. That's true. But he goes to Will Smith. He's like, oh, you're, you hate robots. What did it? Well, let me guess.

It took your dad's job away. And I'm like, yeah, wouldn't that be like a lot of people being like, I used to fucking drive a cab. I used to, whatever. I used to deliver groceries. I used to be a FedEx guy. I used to have a fucking union and now some robot took my job

Like that would that would give You know like a credence to some like Actual hatred of robots which I hate robots And I AI for that reason Like human beings need jobs dude That's how that shit works A labor argument I think is is one thing entirely Or universal basic income which we'll never do

Sorry Well you don't have to fucking pay a robot Steve So there's that But yeah if you want to if you want to make this like Something about that and like class shit Sure you know that's one But just, it is so clunky the way I fucking handle the rest of this. Like, oh, yeah, I guess you were discriminating against my robot.

And, like, it is, it's weird, right? Because, Angelica, you mentioned that, like, Will Smith has to be black for this to work, right? The lady with the purse reveal also has to be black in this situation, which she is. And she's, like, giving it to Will Smith. Like, this is, you know, it's my inhaler. I left my purse. He was bringing it to me. If I weren't out of breath, I'd run up and down your ass, which is a very fucking funny.

line of this lady delivery she's kind of like one of the best one other good exchanges I'm a police officer no you are an asshole yes she's great this lady's great will Smith must love getting yelled at by this lady because this is also the lady who yells at him in bad boys too

about being about him and Marcus Burnett being gay in the video store yeah with the kid and she's he must love this lady yelling at oh yeah talk down to me again I want to find her name oh that's so you two need Jesus Yes. Oh, yeah, you too need Jesus lady.

Oh, shit. That's fucking funny. But then he goes to work and he's a cop and Shy McBride is his boss, the great Shy McBride. Fuck yeah, dude. I love Shy McBride. He's a dude that kind of, he almost started doing it with movies because it was like this. He was in, I think he was like the dad in Roll Bounce or, was he a dad? I don't know. He's in Roll Bounce in some way. Like, coming off of Boston Public, which I thought he was fucking badass as principal on that show, like, hell yeah.

And then, like, kind of didn't do it, unfortunately. Gone in 60 seconds, I think, was the first time I really noticed him. He's pretty good in that not great movie. He's giving Will Smith shit, like, you know, your classic, like, oh, man, you. Robots have never committed a crime. You know what I mean? And then he gets a call that there has been a murder and his best friend, James Cromwell, is murdered. All right.

Dude, I feel like Larry David's best friend. like he's just so upset and there's this it's the great reveal of the hologram which is very stupid. Sharon Wilkins as you boys need Jesus lady slash asthmatic woman in this movie. Yes indeed.

Actually, hasn't worked since 2015, unfortunately. I hope she's not going. Oh, come on. Will, get her an after earth to yell at you. Come on. She can yell at the monsters too. It's fine.

But yeah, so we find out that it's it's a kind of a fake out because it's like he sees James Cromwell he's asking these questions like why did you kill yourself reveal James Cromwell dead on the floor and it's like woo so terribly

shot though it doesn't even hit it's just like okay bitch I mean this Pryas man I mean he comes out of the gate with the Crow great movie or a really fun movie and Dark City kind of great movie

and then enjoy Dark City dog shit thereafter I know it's like and this movie just doesn't feel like there's much of a personality behind it. So it's not just that it's bad. It just feels like kind of anonymous. Yeah. And, you know,

I got to say this. Recently, I was talking to a child. They weren't a child. They were in their mid-20s, but a child. And they, my, uh, partners, like one of his, uh, classmate friends was over. Like, you know, we like to host people, even though our apartment, current one is really small. And he did not like the crow. Saw it for the first time.

Maybe even younger, like maybe 23, 24, something like that. And just like, I was there a particular beef? I think he just kind of found it corny and like it, it wasn't really cool. And like it, but all that to say, like, Proyas has shown like personality of vibe, something. Like, and here's just like, I'm like, it's so cold. it's interesting because it's like coming at a time you know

Supreme War on terror time and it's like but it still has like a belief in the future that maybe technology will be ahead of thing so it's like very sleek it almost felt like a brain dead person's like visual rendition

of Gattaca like if somebody you know what I mean? Yeah sure and also just a few years earlier a minority report came out I feel like we're aping that with the colors totally the slate gray the blue all the car shit in this movie which is like a fucking amateur hour kids video club low budget version of all the car shit minority report well i mean if you did like uh again his first two movies are pretty dark like both um thematically and and just like literally you know what i mean if you turn the lights down on a lot of this stuff it would look so much better like get some get some dark rain going on in the streets and what have you like oh my My God, yes, a little rain in the streets so that it could truly be what I was

calling a bland runner. Oh my God. Very good. Yeah, it's just like there's no real weather. Like, it's just like, I'm like, this is a Chicago. Like, Chicago like is one day is 80 and then the next day it's like for some reason, 62 degrees. Like, you know what I mean?

Like give it some texture. It's so the world building and this is so weird because it's just like wants you to assume things. It actually doesn't really develop. Much of like the actual world these people are living in and how it's different beyond robots and like, ooh, people use cool technology. But nothing feels like culturally, economically. You don't know anything about this world other than that it's 2035 in the fucking lake dried up. That's all you got.

There is no world building. Like they try to, they literally run away from world building wherever they can. They just want to keep it in this one premise. And I think the bigger issue with Proyas was what happened with. his first two movies they're made during when digital isn't everything yeah like when he has to deal with digital everything he loses it it's all gone that's crazy look at gods of egypt as well yeah that's just a total cg i hit job but the effects of this movie even for 2004 i am sorry are wretched it is it is sky captain in the world of right after 9-11 man it is not good

What an ugly time. It's disgusting. Fucking time. I was like 2004. Ew. Yeah. I was never. I'm so glad that was the prime of my life.

That's very sad, Eric. Yes, thank you. How old were you in 2004? Oh, I was 11. No, he was not. But I mean, like people would say like, oh, you know, like the last real era that had a feel to it was the 90s. Absolutely not. The early aughts have a feel, the mid-auts have a feel right now.

You just have to fucking feel it, dude. I feel like even the 2010's out of feel, too, I think. No, they certainly do. You can totally tell a movie from the 2010s. You can totally tell a movie in 2004, which is this, which is New York shit. So he's dead. We go up to see Bruce Greenwood, who is crooked. The richest man in the world.

Yes. Lawrence Robertson. What was up with the coffee shit? Why is he putting that much cane sugar in his coffee? I don't think that's the problem. I thought we were missing something, like my robot arm needs sugar. Dude, I honestly, I thought it was going to be a thing because of my fucking robot lung in my robot arm and my two robot ribs.

I need a bunch of sugar for some reason. It's a thing. It was disgusting. It's just, again, it's the movie focusing on all the wrong things. In this case, a man's just putting way too much sugar in there. And, like, I don't know. Is that like, like, he's like kind of a kid, like little boy shit. Like, oh, I need this to be super sweet or whatever.

I don't know. There's no thought. There's no thought behind that. It's just stupid. There is a sweet tooth thing because the pie. He's always eating the pie and then he needs a pound of sugar with his espresso. You're right. This is what they thought character development was like, oh, and he's got a sweet tooth.

Anyway, moving along. Yeah. It's not interesting. Well, then I need to see him at the fucking dentist and he refuses to let like a robin drill into his mouth. You know what I mean? Like, that'd be great. We also get Bridget Moynihan as Dr. Susan Calvin, who's like the smartest woman in the world. More like the most uptight-ass white motherfucking woman

I've seen in a while. I was like, this woman needs to get laid. She needs to relax. She needs to take a bath with some vanilla candles around. I don't know, girl, but you need to figure it out. Smoke some white rhino, perhaps. Exactly. Get that cheetah piss in there?

Absolutely. Who she should get laid by is Will fucking Smith, but this movie is so fucking afraid of a white woman kissing a black man that that can't happen in the movie. And at the end, they're like, let's just awkwardly stand next to each other and smile. The polite smile, the fucking nod of acknowledgment. Like, we just had an adventure, did we not?

Like, oh, it's so. They should have shook hands and, like, had it each other on the back. In the middle of the movie, she is fingering that robot arm. Like, look at that robot arm. Dude, yeah. Yes. Yep. But at the end, it's like, chalked it up to the Friend League.

We've done it. Friend League has done it. He's done this better before. I don't even understand this. Like the end of bad boys, at least there's heat between him and Teia Leone. Yes. Like there's nothing between them.

Like even fucking Pelican brief, fucking Denzel Washington, Julia Roberts have heats. Yeah. Like, I get you're not going to culminate it, but just show a little bit of attraction. That's all I need.

I legit thought the twist at the end was that she was a robot. Yeah. I thought that's what they were leading to. That'd be something. If that's the case, then it would be like, oh, it turned out,

that's why, you know, Will Smith's character doesn't want asleep with her because he's still very much firmly anti-robot and it's oh i just found out you were a robot sorry and then suddenly her performance is actually terrific then it makes absolute sense you're totally right i was sitting there before you even said it on the group chat eric i was sitting there like yeah trying to remember the movie because i had not seen it in 20 years and i was just like is she a robot at the end of this because boy that would help things out a lot it just because

yeah i mean like you get this to west of types movies too like it's just like you don't want to hire a black actress, because heaven the fuck forbid. And you don't want to show a white woman kids of black man. So you're in this nether zone of zero town. Yeah, exactly. It sucks. And it's so obviously racist thinking. Yep. And it's just like, you end up fucking over the movie. Because then it's like, what is this relationship? Yeah. It's like, I don't even know how to read them. They're just good friends. Exactly. The same reason why Shia LaBuff got cast is the same reason why like that's not a black woman and they in either way they don't kiss like they don't want it to be a black movie they feel out enough black people so you don't feel like oh that's kind of weird for Chicago to be like this fucking white but they keep it just turned down enough that they feel like they can sell it overseas oh yeah absolutely because you got will Smith who's like a cop shy McBride who is his superior grandma so there's a blood relation And then lady on the street taking public transportation,

I think they're the four people of color in this movie that have dialogue. Probably. Yeah. Sounds right. Well, the robots count. No, they don't. And also the robots are voiced by white people. Alan Tiddick, I think he's pretty good at this movie as robot guy.

Yep, doing okay. Sure, yeah. Yeah, you know, his little, like, faux English accent that he's done in the fact. I think he also, didn't he use this fucking accent to play that other robot or no? Am I crazy about that? I think so. Pretty close. The Star Wars is very similar.

I mean, I like Alan Tudik. I like the motion capture performance. Like, I think he, if there's one part of the graphics I like, it is him. But Steve, to underline what you said about the light stuff, like, I think, especially when they demolish his house, like, when the light starts coming around things, that is when the whole thing breaks down. That is when you can literally see blue screens. Like I just, you just watch it and it's just there.

Garbage. Can I tell you that the worst part of like those effects? Because I think we passed it. It's not an, it's not a significant part of the movie. But there's a shot of him leaving, I think it's leaving the police station to go to like Bruce Greenwood's, the U.S. Robotics Office or whatever. And there's a shot of him being like, ah, Chicago, 2035. And he's standing outside this building. Right. And instead of like them just trying their best to use locations around Vancouver and, have this man like stand outside somewhere and just be like yeah it's Chicago fuck you move on right like they decide no no no we are going to have this like expansive future very you said it's Steve

sky captain in the world of tomorrow like match shot of like future Chicago so it's like the skyline but like we put some future buildings in and that shit is so janky that you can almost see the fucking folds in the blue screen that they erected all because it's one of those things like they don't want to show a speck of real landscape so it's one

these we have these massive blue screens on these huge cranes so that the entire thing around Will Smith can be composite shot and it looks awful you can see it's almost like if you if you look at like Will Smith's hair line in those shots you can see the fuzziness oh yeah like bad photoshop between where his hair fucking stops and where the blue screen is it's a it's embarrassing it's really fucking that's why that's why he wears the skull rag sometimes to like oh man I'm blurring out today my hair's too blurry You better print on this hat for the rest of the movie. Also,

I got to rewatch Sid City. Does Sid City look good anymore? I'm just really curious. That's a great question. That movie holds up. Because wasn't that also this year? This was also 2004. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I watched it recently. And I think for what it's like, it depends on if you like that, like what they're doing. It's at least a style, yes. Yeah, if you like it. Black and white, you can hide better. It's got clarity.

It's got clarity. got like it's got sharp edges it looks right but like I can see someone being like I don't like this just looking at me like this doesn't work yeah uh so Bruce Greenwood says you know he killed himself he was in his office we uh we meet

Bridget Moynihan who explains you know robots can't robots can't kill people he this is our big computer system called V-I-I-V-I-V-I-Vicky uh sexy robot computer and then

he's in his office and he's realizing that you know he can't break the glass somebody else must have been in here the whole time and there's a bunch of like dead robot or like you know deactivated robots and this is the first chase scene where Alan Tudik as sunny kind of comes in the ball

he jumps out of this scrap box and she it's one of these weird things where like Bridget Moynihan's character is so brainwashed by these like three robot laws and they're like you know final say on everything that like

every time she opens her mouth in like the first act of this movie it's almost as if she's preventing the movie from getting going like she doesn't want the movie to fucking happen right because like Alan Tudok jumps out of this box and it's like here's a fucking turned on robot in this room where like

James Cromwell was living which is weird and like committed suicide at this window and there's all these yeah like all these other pieces of robots hanging around and here's a live one and it like jumps out and she's like you were scared by a jack in the box I mean come Come on. What do we want a movie to start here? Every fucking time. Calm down, detective. There's no movie about to start. The only dangerous thing in the room is you. Listen, I'm Bridget Moynihan. There can't be a movie. I'm here. Let's just be straight about this. I'm here. There's no movie to be had.

Yeah, it's such a weird, like, juxtaposition of characterization because it's like, she's very humorless and kind of like a cold bitch. I don't know what they're going for at the back. And then Will Smith is like such an asshole and so gruff and like unfunny because none of the jokes land. So it's just this weird, like just dry as fuck vibe. She's trying to play smart, which she just is like, smart people talk, smart people talk like this all the time and walk around. Exactly. Yeah, I have to be. The scientist accent.

Like stiff and rude is how it sounds smart. Yeah, exactly. but yeah so they you know the robot yeah jumps out runs away Will Smith like gets a couple of shots off on this thing so he's like it is a very funny line when they run out this is actually where the big shitty blue screen was and she she looks at it like this puddle of fucking oil

or whatever and she's like you've heard him badly and I was like don't you do it don't you try to get me to start caring about robots I don't think so but I mean the whole like the three laws thing is annoying because it reminds me of that bad watchers movie that I just watched the it shot a chamelon deal

is like don't just tell me rules when the big surprise is going to be they broke the rules you know what I mean like that's not a twist that's just you're lying to me Steve there's a line in this that rules are made to be broke oh wait what you should have thought about that I should have thought about that yeah they wind up going to this warehouse where all the robots are stored he's trying to

first they get to repair himself oh yes he has to he did they have to drive there and it's just like you're driving by hand and it's this great sports luxury sedan it's an Audi because every car in this movie

is an Audi Audi yeah buy an Audi it's a 2035 Audi animatic dude that's the beautiful car this thing looks like shit it's terrible these cars these cars are so ugly but my boyfriend said they looked thick with two

seas like he said why do they look you know what I think is I cannot see it I think I think what attributes to the thickness of those cars is because the design is such that they have the like thicker protective plating over the tires all over it so the back of it makes it look like a big

fat car ass behind it these cars should definitely have Lulu Lemon on it now that you guys pointed it out it's kind of working for me I like these cars Oh, Crash 2. Eric's Bougaloo. There you go.

These Apple Bottom bumpers I keep seeing. Oh, my God. Fat bottom cars, they make the rocking world go round. Yeah. They wind up going to this facility and it's like there's

a thousand robots in here. And then she's like, let me just check the thing. It's a thousand and one robots. Oh boy. Doesn't the fucking, Doesn't the temperature heat up at that reveal? That should have been the title, 1001 robots. Nice.

And they try to get some creepy shit in here, right? Because it's like, hey robots, which one of you is the 1001st robot? And they just do like the fucking one of us, one of us, gobble, gobble, one of you. They're doing fucking freaks for a second. I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. And then it's dropped entirely. I mean, this is one of, I mean, I don't think. it works but this is at least one

scene in this movie where they are trying to build tension and they're trying to cultivate some mystery because the big mystery is who at first is like well James nobody believes James Quintwell Will Smith does not believe James Cromwell killed himself and like

this that mystery kind of goes away eventually just to have like Sunny like we got to get rid of Sunny that's the main thing is that but like in this scene at least I can see like there's some patience there's some reveals Like, there's just at least the filmmaker I remember from Crow and Dark City taking his time with it. A little bit, Chris.

Yeah, but then it devolves into like, I'm interrogating these robots by just shooting them in the head. Yeah. Which seems a little much. And then this, and wouldn't a robot know, especially one in the back row, don't run immediately? What are you doing? Right. Well, he's a special robot, Eric. He's got emotions and feelings and.

And dreams. Don't forget dreams. And secrets. Does he ever? Don't BS me, Eric. If there was a room of a thousand and one of them got shot, you would run screaming towards the exit. No, no.

I mean, it would be a great tragedy. I would want to hide amongst the Eric so that I wouldn't reveal myself. Oh, no. One of my self-sex dolls was murdered, run. No, kill the other Erics. Killed all the other Erics, please. Not me. He's the one.

I do like that eventually after a chase here you know the sunny the robot sort of breaks out for a second but then like they throw fucking nets around him and I swear to God the score does a little bit of a planet of the apes kind of twang right there

because the same the bit of the score when they're like on the horses and the apes are capturing all the humans or whatever definitely I think making a reference there because also like it's just a net it's not even like a future net it's just a net that a pirate could have used what shoots the pirate net

is a is a Terminator flying helicopter type of thing sure which we'd have updated that we never see that again especially during the war at the end of this movie which is incredibly dumb why wouldn't it be there

during the war ah yes the five minute war I forgot all about it yeah he Smith winds up interrogating this robot this is what we do find out the robot does have dreams wow wow I don't give a shit dude

Melt it. It's fucking not human. Melt it. They don't matter. Battlesar Galactica was always like, don't you feel bad for the sounds? Like, not really, they're robots. The humans matter. Fuck everybody else. You don't, they neither of them matter. Yeah, it's also a good point. Yeah, just nuke them both. I do like Shy McBride's line where he's like, oh, I missed the good old days.

And Will Smith's like, what's that? And he's like, when people just murdered other people. Like what? I guess now it's like, I guess he's saying like if this were, if this is indeed the dawning of a new age where like, robots are now killing people. This back to the good old days when we just killed each other. We didn't have to worry about robots. Super strong robots murdering us, I guess, is the idea.

Another great line in this whole exchange is also like, can a robot turn a canvas into a beautiful masterpiece? And somehow that's the first thing we're getting to, I guess, versus make them walk around and kill people first. Will Smith is like, oh, could a robot compose a symphony, could have making beautiful painting in the road? But it's like, could you? Dude, that line shuts him up

tooth sweet, though. It's very funny. Well, it's also like it's asking Will Smith, can you write a good song? And the answer is absolutely not. Ha ha ha ha. Oh, stop it. But, hey, Steve, he doesn't need to cuss in his records to sell records, okay? You know, and you know what? He was right. That dude

has sold millions of albums. I will not hear this besmirching of this. I will, I will argue that. No, no, no. Keep going. Jiggy with it is a curse. Why isn't there an ira, robot song. This movie would be 5% better if it at the end is like I robot doing the thing

I robot getting your thing you know like this guy has the fucking audacity to insult Will Smith's music career and that and that was the fucking freestyle we just got from Steve Sadek as good as as it gets. Doing the thing Steve Sadek, robot doing the thing

that is about as good this is about as good as Will Smith ever got is doing the thing. Doing the thing is about what he does and honestly the thing about the what what it is is this is supposed to be a serious movie men in black is supposed to be funny so you can have the little song with it wild west is supposed to be funny so you can have the little song with it i robot where like we're talking about heady things and we're not being racist at all and all this shit and like they wouldn't allow it it's like having a song on all eight also i also would have taken it also like i just want them all for sure i want them seven pounds here it comes Cash is Clay, open your eyes Cassius Clay, look out below Ali, Ollie,

Ollie doing the thing. The King Richard song would have been great. He could have used that accent that he was using. Will Smith's newest record, here it comes. Comes in at 350th

on the top mark. Okay. You guys don't remember the song that he did for that concussion movie. It was the song, you know, concussion parentheses, doing the thing.

Of course. that's how you get a concussion you did too much of the thing CTE, it's doing the thing to your brain to your brain brain etc but so anyway he is interviewing the robot

Angelica is so bad at me it's great I'm so pleased with myself he's interviewing him and yes he does realize that he could dream and that he can get angry because he basically calls him he calls him a cano

and he like slams on the table with both robot fists. Excuse me, canner. Yeah, he says, okay. It's a term. Answer me. Answer me. Answer me. Answer me, canner. He definitely does, dude.

Yeah, a hard, hard R on that, really? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Bruce Greenwood comes in and he's just like, hey, by the way, my lawyers have successfully put a gag order on the entire Chicago Police Department.

Okay. I wish. Somebody's throwing them in. Yeah, all it takes is like the richest man in the world to be like, hey, now the court says none of you cops can talk about shit. I guess talk about science fucking fiction, man.

So he goes to the Ovalteen Cafe, where he's drinking a bunch of beer, which I'm like, can't this be like a breakfast either? It's the Ovalteen Cafe and it's a breakfast spot. And he's having a cup of coffee and, like, pancakes or whatever. Or it's fucking McGillacutty's tavern.

And he's drinking these beers. He's drinking with Shy McBride shows up. And they're like buddies here. We find out kind of, there's more like, you know, you can take some time. I guess because of the accident. Here's my question is when did the wife leave him? Was it when did she started talking? I think it's when he started wearing the little girl's necklace.

She's got to be like, yeah, I'm kind of. out, dude, like... What so fuck is that? That's so weird. He's like, yeah, Sarah. Sarah. Sarah. And I'm like, looking at him like, how did you...

You know what? He's just a guy that watched this girl drown from afar. It's not like he saved or anything. He probably went to the funeral and like kind of like, five-figure discounted that Sarah necklace. Yeah, Nick did. That's awesome. Is that an evidence locker or so?

From what I understand from motion pictures and television, if I'm a cop, I can just walk into any morgue in the country, you just start looking around. Poking around. Yeah, but so, but when did the wife leave him? Because I think that's really when that happened because I thought it was supposed to be like a Chappaquitic thing. And it's like, oh, you got caught. Your mistress died in this car accident. And that's why the divorce happened, right? Because like, you know, but then it's just this. We were riding alongside each other and we both had a car accident. in chappaquinic ted kennedy was also saved by a robot and ted kennedy was like yes robot save me drown the girl so shy mcbride is at this cafe with him and it's like yes the take some more time blah blah blah and then it's like i will smith's trying to figure out like why is it that james cromwell would send this holograph thing you know why would i be called you know what is the deal and shy mcbride says maybe it's because he knew you were the right man for the job and that kicks a memory in Will Smith's noodle there and he's like you're a genius Shy McBride actually I'm the only man for the job could you believe it in a Will Smith movie I almost fell over so then this is where he goes

to Dr. Lanning's house this is the right okay the dumb house action scene where it goes to real quick with the with the Shy McBride scene there's a good line because he's always trying to find motivation of why a robot killed a man and he's shy McBride's got a great line like it doesn't need motivation it just needs to be

broken. Yeah. Yeah. It's just faulty equipment. Eric, I'm surprised you didn't notice. When you see James Cromwell on TV during these speeches, he has an opi fit going on. Oh, does he? He has a big hat that looks exactly like something he would do that. And he has a big coat. And I was like, oh boy. Is this a nuke thing here? I'm going to fight you on this for one reason, Chris Cabin. Both that hat and the jacket are dark black. My man is dressed like a fucking exorcist for some reason at the press conference. He's dressed like dark. That's

what Appi was as well. He's dressed like Dark City. Remember those guys? Oh well yes. Also that. So he's in this big mansion and it's the silliest thing because this big builder robots like I'm a transformer now in this movie. I'm like get

out of here dude. I don't know what you're doing in this movie. They call it a demo bot lady. So like you can talk to those. too and they can talk back to you just as well as like the more you know human looking ones that's kind of weird

that's like Flintstone's territory man exactly dishwasher talking to you it's a living oh that's disturbing I always found that disgusting I don't like that at all it was a very weird detail on the Flintstones but they're running he's now it starts

destroying the house he picks up wait oh please oh wait oh you're going to mention the cat right of course I am Okay, I was about to say, like, we have to talk about the cat acting. It's so important. The cat is great. It's really great. An action hero.

It is. He gets picked up and, like, the cat is not scratching Will Smith's eyes out, which is what most cats would do if you pick them up. And this cat isn't like a pool at some point, and it's just like, chilling out. I'm like, how many Benadryl did they give that fucking cat? Oh, that cat was zooted. That cat died that day during this. Oh, my God.

That cat was ironically on Cheapis, actually. the problem with this he saves the cat five times in this the cat keeps respawning or something just reappearing using teleporting powers to get the different parts of the house

this this did raise like there were a lot of scenes where I was just like well where is the world building here to inform me and something I'm like well wouldn't something like the demolition bot wouldn't they have like a some kind of thing like

check for people inside structure before you demolish things But because, like, you're just supposed to believe, I mean, spoiler, Vicky did it all. Yeah. Vicki, the big computer, did it all. Sure. Now, they would explain everything away. Well, well, Vicki did that.

Yeah. No, no, no, you don't have to have anything interesting in the movie. Vicki took care of it. Don't worry about it. Well, because they want you to believe that, like, Bruce Greenwood is behind it all. So, like, the little demolition robots, like, yeah, it's scheduled for 8.m. tomorrow. We're going to knock the house down. And then when Will Smith goes inside, you see it changes from a.m. to p.m.

Because Vicky did. Because Vicki's doing it, but you're supposed to believe it's Bruce. And that's so interesting. He goes and having detail in your movie. He goes to Bridget Moynihan's house and is like, knock, knock, do we have sexual attention? Maybe. And he's like drinking whiskey. And this is like when he is doing like too much acting for the movie.

Like he's got like cry eyes in this movie. And I'm like, not in this one, Will. Like you don't have to like give it. much. This is the beginning of Weird Dad era. This is because almost nearly after this all his roles are

weird emotional dad. He has been doing that for forever. But like this, I kind of feel like is a jumping off point. It's not a real son. It's just sunny. Well, it's weird because most of this scene doesn't fit the movie anyway. It fits

the plot of like some weird rom-com. Because he goes to the house with the cat and like there's a good I would say like minute of this movie where he is just trying to convince this woman to take the cat and that's just the scene

and we're not talking about robots we're not talking about James Cromwell's suicide or maybe murder it's just will you take this cat Andrew she's a great cat fantastic cat he doesn't seem to care about it he seems to just pass it off because like tech you would think this scene

would be to build some heat or chemistry between these two. Not doing that. But the only thing he does is he's like Wait, you have a fucking robot in here? You didn't tell me before. You didn't put it like, it's like your friend coming over to your house and be like, you have an iPhone

in here? Are you fucking serious? You have an iPhone in here? She's Netflix and chilling with that fucking robot dude. I don't know what's going to happen next. We were just watching TV. We were just watching TV. That's her business. Honestly, if that thing vibrates, that's her business. She's fucking it. You know that everyone who buys one of these things is

fucking it. Interesting, that's not one of the three laws. Robots shall not lay with man, you know? Well, I mean, strange. Robots shall pleasure man until he says enough. Because the people who are making the robots are the exact marketplace for the people that want to fuck the robot, Steve. Of course,

that's not going to be a robot law. But this movie is entirely fucking cowardly for not acknowledging that. Because you know, it's like, oh, this is the new NS5 models coming out. Yeah, it's got a fucking huge dick attachment you can buy separately. You can change the size. Yes, yeah, totally.

It's got LED lights in it. It's like vacuum cleaner attachments. You know what I mean? They all look like Jude Law and artificial intelligence. Oh, well, I guess robots can stay. Agreed, 100%. This is where...

These robots have... They got they got fingers in a mouth. I mean, that's that's all you need. Hey, that can do a lot, you know. You know what you're doing? That can do it. Oh. This scene is the, my, I've thought about this part

for 20 years. The worst like dialogue exchange and like stunning. I mean, Steve, you mentioned this movie at three editors. It's kind of stunning that this movie did not have six screenwriters. You got a line like this back and forth repartee here. You are the dumbest smart person I have ever met in my

entire life to which seconds later she replies to Will Smith you are the dumbest dumb person I've ever met I'm like how many more minutes we got left on this fucking thing yeah some of the dialogue like in the same scene um like with the whole after the cat back and forth um she says have you ever had a normal day and he's like once it was a Thursday and I was like What? Shut the fuck up. This isn't funny. It doesn't say anything about who you are or like give any personality.

It's just like stupid and bad. Kiva Goldsman. That's all you need to know. That guy just really. Winter's tale, Akiva Goldsmith. I mean, God. Damn it, that guy. I think he's a Transformers guy too.

I'm sure he is. What's funny is the trivia says that a lot of the jokes were attributed to him and they actually refer to it as Borch-Belt humor and I disagree with that completely. Because it's all like, you know, I think they think, you know, it's like, take my wife

please kind of shit, but like these are just straight up ex-wife jokes okay. Yeah, like that's Al Bundy. Yeah. It's Al Bundy. I mean and I guess like with that terrible Thursday line, if you had like a you know, Milton Burler, I should even like a Rodney, you know,

like, you had a good day once. It was a Thursday. Like, maybe then it can kind of transform into a joke. The delivery matters. Yes, no, Will Smith just saying, like, it was a Thursday, like an action hero, there's no delivery of that joke. Well, that's what he, like, it's dismissive is cool. Like, that's the general tone of that. Like, he doesn't want to be funny. And this is, like, again, like, this is not a funny movie.

It's not Men in Black or Wild Wild West. It is a serious fucking Isaac Asimov suggestion. Right. And apparently the original script was more nuanced. There's this trivia about how when Smith was hired, he demanded they change a bunch of stuff and make it so that he can save the world. God damn.

Like you can keep that serious tone if it is this small sort of contemplative sci-fi tale about like the dangers of AI and turning your society over to robots or whatever. But once you choose to go from like, based on a series of short stories by Isaac Asimov to written by. dudes who kind of read a few of those

and that's like your credit right feel free to back up the comedy truck and make it actually funny you know what I mean? Because like funny plus action e. entertainment you know. Yeah, figure out the tone. I wonder Andrew if that was the original idea

and that's where the deleted Shia scenes were it was them being funny together. Like because that I can see and them being like seeing the footage and be like oh we have to burn this. Yeah, no one can ever see this again. This needs to be ashes on the floor. Very soon. We spent hours letting Will and Shaya just riff and it blew up in our faces. Oh, that sounds like hell. No, thank you. And the way this movie progresses is also

just stupid. He visits the grandmother again. I think he gives her the cat. Yeah, you got to get that cat somewhere. This talk back and forth. How did I ever raise such a mess? I could follow your trail of breadcrumbs all the way to school. And he's like, breadcrumbs. Right. I'm a detective. I should be looking for that stuff. Hansel and Gretel, of course, breadcrumbs. Breadcrumbs are clues. And he finds, by the way, breadcrumbs are clues, and I love

it bugs me to know Ed. There's like a Hansel and Gretel book. And like, it's like an old version of a 200-page version of like, I don't know, like, where did this come? It's a fucking fairy tale. It's, you get a book of Grimm's fairy tales. That makes sense.

But it's like the book of Hansel, like a first edition from 1806. but you need it for her because she's never heard of the fairy tale somehow what? Large print she needs it large print I think again Steve it's just a thing where it's like this is written by people

that only kind of read other stuff and it's like yeah Hansen and Gretel that whole book right? Yeah but Bridget Boynehan not knowing when Hansel and Gretel is like how do you have a degree in anything? I mean like that's just like osmosis culture knowledge that you just are kind of born with and again

like yes it's the future but it's only 2035. We're still going to be acknowledging the existence of Grimm's fairy tales. It's not like you're in fucking you're on a rackus and someone's talking about grim fairy tales, a thousand years into the future, you know what I mean? You are here, you are in the now.

And that's why when she didn't know that, I was like, all right, maybe I'm remembering this wrong again. Maybe she's not a robot. Maybe she's an alien from outer space. Pretending to be a fucking human robot scientist for some reason because she doesn't know Hansel and Gretel. It's just so bizarre. Also, they set up a weird thing.

with grandma because she's like, oh, I won the contest and now I have an NS5 in my house. And like, it's gonna dick be good. Oh, my God, finally. Stop, no, don't say that about Chi-Gee. Oh, he mopped the floor with me last night. Well, you know what, hey, you know what good for her. Exactly.

She's got something else to do besides bake pie, but like, it's sort of like, that's kind of like, right am I reading this wrong is that not a nefarious thing from Vicky like altering the contest because at the time

like before I remember that it's the supercomputer and not Bruce Greenwood I was like Bruce Greenwood center that fucking robot but like the movie doesn't explore that notion

of like he's under surveillance at all times really no I mean the surveillance stuff is so fucking like just write it and who gives a fuck we'll leave it for Shy and Eagle we'll talk about that then don't worry about it yeah but the the fucking the the big release day of the

ns5 like again this is one of those things where if you gave me any detail it would be it would be engaging and i might be interested yeah but like it's just like it seems like there's just a train of there's constant trains of ns5s being shipped out and being handed out to everybody just for free like it's the government running this so weird they're so like the corporation also seems to have more power than the government, but they don't really, like, explore that. It just seems like lazy writing. It's just kind of like, it doesn't really track if you think about it. There's a program where you can, there's a program where you can trade in your old robot for a new

NS5. And I'm like, that's not how any capitalism has ever worked. Like, you know what I mean? Isn't that what they do with cell phones, though? Like, go into fucking Verizon, you'll get a new thing and then you sign. Now it's like, no, you could, you, it used to work that way. it's like, oh no, you can lease your phone for all this money and blah, blah, blah,

even like, that'll go towards your lease and blah, blah, blah, trust me. Yeah, I tried to trade my phone in once and I, you know, I sent it off to them and they were like, oh, we never got it. Yeah, no, so you're gonna have to pay full price. And then a month later, they shipped back my old phone to me.

Oh, we got it too late. Oh, that's why you go right to the fucking store. Dude, don't email those crooks or don't mail those crooks anything. No, no, no, I just take the abuse. I'm like, all right, I've been swindled by the best. I'm going to lay down. Eric, no, you should have called

1877 droids for kids. That would have really, I think if, I think you could do that. I think they get right back to you. And something, something because what brings Bridget Moynihan to Will Smith's house? Actually,

at some point he's attacked by robots in two battle vans. We are, we are now, there's robot hangers on the highway. Go, they go between him or whatever we get a classic all hell no yes you do and they turn red and they start fighting him in his car a really really smart a little bit of a visual language here when the robots turn red that means they're bad robots now i don't know if you're aware of that it's it's very smart very smart visual color i like that this is like the ultimate scene to make you

believe that Greenwood is crooked because basically, like, he gets another inspirational moment here from Grandma, which you can't, you cannot do that, right? You can't have Shy McBride inspire him and be like, Shy McBride, you're a genius. And then six minutes later, Grandma, you're a genius. Like, do your fucking job, dude. How about that, first of all? It's like the only person who's not a genius is the scientist. Yeah. But yeah, so he's, he is, he is, driving in this car and Vicky sort of narks on Spooner right here to Bruce Greenwood

and is like, hey, you wanted to know if anybody was accessing restricted files because he's trying to get into these Cromwell video files or whatever. And Greenwood has the, like, he's looking at the camera and he goes, persistent, son of a bitch. And that's when these two

robot trucks roll up. And thinking back on it, like, it makes sense now that this isn't Bruce Greenwood because like, if your company is on the hook right here for like, you're trying to do damage control and whether or not a robot murdered a person and you're trying to keep that all quiet about like dysfunctional robots

due to this launch. It's kind of a bad business idea to have two truckloads of them attack this dude all at the same time. But this is what happens. Vicky turns them and this is some of the cheapest shit. I mean, this all looks terrible. It's horrible. And like the, this is another thing

where I'm like, well, clear like everybody's like, well, what? There's no proof of anything. And I'm like, well, clearly there would have been surveillance footage of this whole fucking thing happened. Surveillance everywhere. But nope. Oh, Vicky. Fuck it. Vicki. And little robots came out and da-da-da-da-da.

Cleaned up all that shit. Now nobody knows. And now he just looks crazy. That is hilarious. When it's like just after like all the bad action has ended and he's sitting there in the street spitting out blood and Shy McBride comes up like, you know, now you're driving your car you know, not on auto drive

or whatever and he's like, these robots attack me, they're all over there and like that fire pit of dead robots is just gone okay movie, I guess I'll believe it just to get close to the fucking closing credits. Andrew, it's Vicky. Vicki did it all. Don't you don't understand?

You don't have to have detail in your script if you just have Vicki. Yeah, if you have just a sexy voice, AI, not robot, whatever Pisotrona, whatever fuck brain shit. She can do whatever, baby. It's feminism.

Absolutely. Thank you, Angelica. Thank you. Thank you for saying it. Vicki's a girl boss. Oh, she's the ultimate girl boss. Yeah. And you know what?

Honestly, like, you need a better female performance than, because it's just very non, I was very nonplussed by the Vicky voice. You need, like, if it matters, like, you know, Alan Tudik does a good job with Sunny. Like, you just need to get to any other actress that's kind of a little pizzazz. compare this to how in

2001, right? That had a command to it. Yes. If she's the villain, the one behind it all, it needs to matter more. You should at least have one that the AI people now want to rip off like her. You know what? You should at least go that far to

have something that's got a little style, a little softness to it. At least they want to, you want to give these... Hey, good morning, I'm taking your job. It's me, Scarlett-Jew Hanson. I'm your AI voice. Oh, boy. Can I turn it down, please? Did Scarjo turn 87?

Yes. Okay. Vicky was portrayed by Fiona Hogan. You may remember her as pregnant woman and Freddie got fingered. That's what I'm saying. Or a scared woman in 2010's tooth fairy. Okay. Somebody would be that.

That's so, okay. They didn't try. They were like, oh shit, we never cast me. Yep, we fucking forgot. Who's out in the waiting room? here for something else bring her in last night i was watching freddie got fingered there was this pregnant lady she knocked me right the fuck out i got a voice of an angel you just got to hear this shit were you the actress who played reporter number three in the haunting in connecticut two

calling ghosts of georgia what a title by the way just i got to see what that's all about but now he's he's off the force he has to give up his badge you know he does do a good do i he yells at that one cop who's like do you hear what the line is like after he throws the badge what what does he say to him i didn't hear it i didn't hear it but i saw it on the subtitles personally i think he's losing it oh do i look like i give a shit what you think and he's fucking it's like thank you for proving my point you are clearly losing yes exactly i said that to him and then he screamed at me clearly he's losing it he goes back to his apartment this is what bridget winahan comes to his place and she

is a like feeling up this arm like nobody's business and we find it's revealed that it's a robot arm. He just pops his shirt off. Oh yeah just pop that off. Yeah and she had to graze his titties. She does graze his tithies quite a bit. Titty

grazer. I mean if you're there you got to shoot the shot but give it a five and again because they can't fuck because it's this movie she's just grazing his tities and then being like so what's your trauma like? And he explains about the car. And I mean, again, like, this is traumatic.

You know, you're driving your car. You crash. You see a little girl drowned. But it's not traumatic enough to, like, lose your marriage and all. Like, you got to fucking, you know what I mean? Like, relax with that. We don't know that that's why he lost the marriage. We have no idea why this dude's divorced.

Like, maybe she just got a fucking job in New York and he didn't want to move. We don't know because the screenplay don't care. Yeah. It's kind of, it's such a big deal. but then it's also not a big deal because they never like tell you or give you a timeline. You just have to assume

that oh, the accident happened, you know, he gets his lungs, like two ribs and the whole arm replaced and he just kind of like, isn't man, fuck them robot. I just don't buy the, like

so you're supposed to be a cop and the most, and the thing, like you've seen people shot in the face. You've seen all this shit And the one thing that sticks with you, the thing that makes you hate the future of the world is like, I saw a white lady drown. Yes.

It was really bad. It was really sad. I was really, really sad. Also, like, make this more pat. Make it his daughter. You know what I mean? Like, oh, no, my daughter was on the other thing and you didn't save my daughter.

That sort of makes sense. But just some random girl you've never met. Like, and he's like, oh, her name was Sarah. And I'm wearing her necklace. And he's like, you know, she wanted to be a dentist. And I'd be like, that's why his wife left. because it's like, it's enough with Sarah and the dentistry.

I'm sorry, you're right to a degree, but I think they were trying to avoid the stereotypes because easily it would have been the dead wife. Every cop has a dead wife. Sure, sure. Yeah. They usually kill them. In real life, Chris, yes.

When he's telling this story, though, he's like, oh yeah, and like there is this other guy that died, his name was Harold Lloyd. No relation to the silent film star. I don't even think he's a silent film star, but he's like, no relation to the film star and you're just like, so you're like

a silent movie fan, I guess that's some fucking weird detail. Like, is it because he's supposed to be such a Luddite that he's like, sound in movies? Fuck that silence or bust. He is a he's a big fan of the past. That's why he even has a motorcycle

that runs on gasoline. We have a big scene about that. He likes old timey things, hence the sneakers from 2004, which are great and in stores now. When explaining something to someone who doesn't know what Hansel and Gretel is, just don't even

bother with Harold Lloyd. Just be like his name's Harold Lloyd. She's not going to know who that guy is. She's not going to know who that guy is. Most of the fucking bitches don't know who the fuck that guy is. Also, like again, I know, you know, maybe I'm off base here because I know like there's definitely been things about like

you show a younger person, like a rotary phone and they don't know what to do with it, right? Sure. So, but this is like 2035 and Bridget Moynihan's character like is not that old right she's talking at this CD player like oh yeah trying to like voice command the Sony CD player like it's not that far in the future she would know she would know right she'd have to know they should have maybe made it further into the future or something yes yes it does feel weird because you're like my girl it's

it's not like it's not like captain Herk's got all these old-timey fucking rifles on his wall or whatever and it's like, oh yeah, that's from 300 years ago. Like, that makes sense as, you know, as this goes and why people wouldn't maybe know about it. Or like, Scotty

in Star Trek 4, hello, computer. Yes, that makes sense. Because it's 300 years in the future. But this, they're born, they're probably born in 2004 or six or seven or something, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And like, what is you like, you push in the thing as like,

it's skips you can you can damage it why what then why would I why would I bother this has anti-shock technology so that's going to be anti-shock technology that's why your portable CD player is $60 more than the other one anti-shock locks

so they go to Bruce Greenwood's office one more time and this is there's a lot of argument here about I think they're trying to they have to put Sunny down even though Sunny's like now a friend of theirs kind of right is that she is ordered to destroy him uh is the idea but this is where they go this is where he sketches out he's like hey because the the thing that like the breadcrumbs thing is about like the dream or whatever so he's like oh tell me what's in your

dream because he realizes it's not a fucking dream it's just like stuff that uh uh cromwell has sort of like put in there to direct him where to go so he's like sketch the dream and he does that. My least favorite line of this movie is when Bruce Greenwood is like, yeah, we, we care about human life and Bill Wilson sneezing, sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit.

And like, oh, sure. If anyone was still left in the theater, they might have laughed, but I would have left an hour ago anyway. I was there and didn't. Can confirm. But yeah, this is where Bruce Greenwood like admits that he knew all about all of the modifications

that Cromwell was making to this sunny robot which includes yes he has his own little neural net that the rest of these robots do not and he's his whole thing to Bridget Moynihan is like look you got to fucking erase this thing you got to wipe it clean you know destroy its memory like

we are going you know we're again it's like two days to launch or whatever and he's basically like could you imagine if there was this fear across the country or maybe the world we don't know how far robot shit spreads in this movie but can you imagine all the recall money we would lose

blah blah blah and it like kind of goes back into that I guess is the idea and she's like oh I'll take care of myself don't worry about it boss I will definitely kill this robot I've become emotionally attached to next next week. It's the 4th of July next week we can't do this oh yeah

it's also the 4th of July what are you doing what is that supposed to be? We're going to close the beaches that doesn't make sense well they did right it's a landfill man you don't got no beaches yeah the fucking lake dry sorry Steve what he's name Anecotal evidence about how famous Will Smith is. If you, I was going to Wikipedia, I typed in Will.

First is, the first hit is Will. Topics referred to by the same term. Number two is Bill Shakespeare. Coming in number three, Big Willie style. So there you go, dude. That's it. Still got it. Still got it. Over William Prince of Wales.

William the Conqueror is next. William the fourth. William Shatner. William the third, William McKinley and William Howard Taft. That's your top ten. If you, if you, I think if you, I think if you, search it maybe a month out from bad boys. Yeah, okay.

It might switch up. It's just came out. Right. A lot of people are searching for him at the moment. Yeah, that's fair. Exactly. Shatner will move up when he when he passes. Yes, exactly. Yes, of course. It might be Shakespeare. This bullshit shot of, so he's being

like, Sunny, that is. So she agrees to do the wipe. Sunny is being marched to his death chamber here by like two other robots. So it's like it's three robots walking down. like a silver narrow hallway in slow motion while like sort of like

sadish score plays were just kind of ape in the right stuff a movie that Bruce Greenwood was in like I don't know if there's a connection there but I was just like well that's that famous hallway walk looks awfully familiar and also to distinguish Sunny from the rest he has blue eyes which means he's a beautiful blue

blue eyed baby they also they put a blonde wig on him. I just, I'm starting to like this robot. I figured. They wind up. So yeah, she's going to,

he's like, it's like, it's like, is it going? Because again, this is something that was definitely edited out of the movie because later,

later Sunny is alive and she doesn't kill Sunny, but she's killing Sunny in this. Yeah, it appears to be, but later she says that she killed just some other random robot. But then why is this robot being like, is it going to hurt

when I die. Like, oh, no, it's, it's so sad to be alive. Because Steve, you were just saying it, man. So you missed, like, the detail there. By the way, I think I'm wrong. I don't think Bruce Greenwood's in the right stuff. But it reminded me of the right stuff that shot anyway. But no, like, yes, the whole like, does it hurt thing. That's him. Right. And then when Bruce Greenwood is looking down like onto the monitor, like supervising, you're going to fucking kill that robot and she plugs it in.

uh oh dude it's not blue eyes on the table it's green eyes are on the table so you're seeing it because later she's like oh i just wiped this NS5 that was just like a shell of a of a robot didn't have anything in it so that robot didn't do anything to anybody that that robot did not deserve to die no but it would have excuse me it would have eventually okay so it's okay what we did my favorite uh my favorite part of the movie is right right here is what because wilsmith asks about the dream and like the dream is it's all these robots standing in Lake Michigan

or the Lake Michigan landfill I think they call it and there's a piece of a bridge a very famous piece I don't know what that bridge is apologies Angelica I'm sure you do I don't I don't give a fuck about bridges Is there a bridge that goes over the lake I thought that was just maybe some future talk

there because it's the bridge is hanging over the emptied out lake I don't think that exists I was like this is it I was like what the fuck I don't think that's actually there, Steve. But it's very famously there in the movie. And then Will Smith has to use a scan to find where the... He's like, where is?

Oh, my God, it's Lake Michigan. I'm like, a fucking course in his asshole. Like, that's... How many collapsed-ass bridges you got out there in the city? That's the real question then, if he's that confused by it. How many dried up lakes? Or that, yeah. I guess, you know, we don't know.

Because you know what? This movie, at the top of it, needed a scroll that tells you, like, the state of the world. because there are plenty other options or opportunities in this movie where they thoroughly explain those three laws of fucking robotics. Oh, they keep explaining, though. Yeah, so like, fuck that. You dumb fucking cunts don't know about that. And I'm like, wait, like, no, everybody knows that.

This isn't interesting. Why do you keep, like, hammering this home? Oh, because you're stupid. You stupid people wrote this script. That's what happened. But so, like, take that fucking, the shit out of the top of it. And it's like, the year is 2035. There's been a total environmental collapse due to blah, blah, blah, and we got robots now and here's what they do for us. And like, because there's

just nothing with this world, man. I want to know why that lake dried up. I really do. You don't get it. He goes there. That's where all the robots are the old robots are being stored. Right. You get some voiceover from James Cromwell. Yes. Why do robots group together instead of stay alone? Is it random code? Or are they becoming people and the robots are people he says when does a personality simulation become a soul and then you see all these like robots hunkering together in a cargo container or whatever nice try a i the answer is always never there is a brick wall there always is trick question there are no souls even better uh and this is he realizes that there's he uses the hologram james

Cromwell and he's like you know this is the three laws of robotics was always going to guarantee there'd be a revolution I'm like is it really that's what it well I guess it's that thing about like you know you keep people in a box for so long they're eventually going to want to pop out

and have a revolution is the idea and again it's another like I think we're trying to allude to things and say some things but we're not we're trying to say everything at once you don't have to hit a you don't have to hit a fucking bull's eye, but you at least need to get the dart on the board, and this movie's not doing this. Eventually,

when Vicky turns, we get that where it's like, oh, we have to kill some people to save humanity, and it makes total sense. Take notes. Tenoos rules. But this is when the robots go abet, and it's like World War robot, which is like

what Bull Smith has to escape from the yard. And then Shiala Buff shows up, and he's like, hey, let's go fight in the streets. What are you talking about robot? I'm like, Who are you in this movie? He's told that there's a curfew to return to his home and he's like,

it's called civilian rights. I'm like, what? Is that a thing? What? It calls the robot metal dick. Yeah, the full line is you can kiss my ass, metal dick. I'm like, this is terrible.

Got his ass. He's so bad. I'm like, why was Hollywood like so behind? I mean, I don't, we were dying for more even Stevens, I guess. I'd never like even Stevens. That stuff is annoying as shit It's so annoying

I've never even seen a second of it Was that Were you into any of the Disney channel shows? No, I think that's probably it I was never into the Disney channel shows Like I watched a lot of like You know Nickelodeon and like

You know Cartoon Network shit And like you know But Yeah just not Not all that weird shit I don't know There's something about Disney channel

Even to me then I was just like It's just like so sweet, but it feels like it's hiding something dark and terrible. Turned out that was Nickelodeon, though, after all of a sudden. It's probably all of them. Let's be the executive producer. It's a factory. Well, any adult that has to judge between two to three children to find out who's the best looking, I don't trust that dude. You know what I mean?

That's a bad job to have. That's someone has to do it, I guess. Someone does, I guess. Apparently. I mean, that's the part of it. show to the American economy. You need children's television, but you can't have children making the shows.

That's what Kids Incorporated was about. Kids Incorporated. While the robot revolution is going on and the electricity is off in the city and people are trying to fight the robots, there's this moment because this movie fucking loves

slow motion where like Will Smith is on his motorcycle and then he like leaps into the with the motorcycle and then two guns and pew, peo, peon. Isn't that cool? Because it's in slow motion and he's like wearing leather and stuff. I haven't seen that. I didn't see that in the movie four years ago or three years ago or even two years or even fucking yesterday. Like, come on. It's

it's matrix. It is so. There's a lot of it. It's all matrix. And that I think that's also the shot that Andrew is talking about the right stuff shot. I think that's also a matrix shot of him being led into the building in that final scene. Oh, I think he might be right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he also gets these big Rob Leifeld guns at some point, like these big stupid machine guns that are really dumb. Yeah, well, because you've got to kill all these robots faster. Not yet.

Not yet. Does he get belts? Is that what you said? I do like the robot raid on the police station here because it was in the trailer, and I still watching it this afternoon think it's badass. Shine McBride with that shotgun shooting this fucking thing through the window. Pretty fucking cool.

He gets two blasts with that. Not enough. of it. Not enough. No, I need to see the rest of that siege because the next time we go back to that police station, all of the cops that have survived are rounded up like in the middle of the precinct floor and all the

robots are like around them. I was like, no, no, I want to see the fall. Like I want to see that whole struggle go down. But then the movie's over two hours. Well, yeah, but I would have liked at least like an R rating where I can see some of these robots. Like all the bad deaths are

given to the old robots when like They're, like, taking their heads off and stuff. Like, it's, it's Transformers rules, right? You can be as brutal as you want with the robots. But once it's with the actual people, you don't even get to watch blood. You don't get to see nothing. That would, wouldn't that, like, if poor little Shilabuff is like, hey, eat shit, metal dick, and they rip his head off like a normal combat.

And you see the spinal column, you know what I mean, just hanging out? Total combat style. Yeah, you got me to three, you got me to three stars. Exactly. You got me, and then, and now Will Smith is like, I will avenge you Shilabuff. And I've learned something from your. death or something. He picks off a little necklace off a shy in there.

He's collecting white kids. Yes. Oh, yeah, dude. He's collecting their souls. Morgan Freeman goes out, he's a collector. And he walks away. Even this one's a little too weird for Dr. Alex Cross, if you'll excuse me. That's fucking weird. Will, why are you collected white kids,

Will? What's going on? Bridget Moineshan has got him, got Will Smith in a car. And he's like, well, you know, I'll be around. Yes. guys uh but yeah this is there's a funny scene where bridget boonehynch blindly shoots at him and it's like why'd you shoot with your eyes closed and it's like goodbye shylo buff you're out of the movie yeah thanks for nothing it's another hey stop cursing and go home okay i will we have a great solid relationship see a nipmadiac dude bye listen to me you will never have a successful music career if you

keep cussing like that shyloboe okay you listen to me right now. No, no artist has sold a platinum cursing in their records. It's never happened in the history of music. While we're here, what's the best Shia movie? What's, what, what is it? Best, best movie overall or like,

best with, because of him. Oh, good question. Well, that answer is set on. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Let's just say best movie overall that he seems like a goose egg, Steve. I think it's got to be, I think the first Nipver Maniac's pretty okay. The second was really stupid

That would be Towards the top of mine You know I don't I like like I like about half of that American Honey a lot Oh I was I was with all that movie

I mean it's too long But I liked it I wouldn't say it's Once they get because of him Once they get to the Will Patton House I'm kind of like this should end around now I mean I think I'm with Steve here with

a nymphomaniac I don't see anything else on here I could get behind and like it and Constantine Oh yeah actually no

Constantine might be hit I was just gonna say like that's a movie that he's also in you know like Nymphomaniac he's in he's part of a piece

yeah it's Constantine yeah as opposed to yeah this and you know I mean not a lot of Battle of Shaker height fans

here no no no how about Wall Street Money never sleeps. Anybody want to boost that one up? Or was a Honeyboy, the one where I lied about my dad and got caught for it, which I love? That's kind of a cool to watch someone burn that bridge in real time. That's kind of neat.

Not too shabby. Not too shabby. He got some hot soup over that peanut buttered falcon movie, too, I think. He gets in hot soup every other week because he's an asshole. Yeah, it does seem so. Allegedly, he might be a nice guy. I think it was something about like the fellow in the movie. with Down syndrome, maybe it was not treated so.

Or like the movie itself doesn't deal with that. Well, I don't know it was necessarily shy his fault. They store, they're stormed the fucking big dumb building. Everyone's got guns for some reason, you know. Bruce Greenwood's dead at this point. We don't even see, we don't, I don't get to watch Bruce Greenwood die. What the fuck? We just see his body laying there and they like, you know, touch his hand.

And it's like, come on. The first time, I've never seen that I didn't watch this movie, uh, in theaters, the only time I've ever watched as me beforehand was, I was at a bachelor party in Canada in like 20. Wow, what a fun party. Sounds rocking. And I, in Montreal, and I was

too cheap to fly to Montreal. So I took the train there with a couple of buddies and it was like, that's like a 10 hour train ride. And it was the end of the night and I didn't trust myself to go to sleep and wake up on time to catch my train. So I walked in the hot tub

and smoked a joint while watching this movie on regular television and like falling asleep and waking up every seven minutes when the water would make me up kind of a thing. This is terribly irresponsible of you.

I can't believe this. I remember being like, oh shit, I missed the Bruce Greenwood death scene. But I didn't miss the Bruce Greenwood death scene. No. It didn't exist. It's a miracle. Because the thing is you can't show

like, what is Vicky doing? Is she, is she bringing like is she sending these robots out to kill Bruce Greenwood or is she just like in his brain and destroys it or something like that because it would be interesting to see that but you don't it's just like Vicky did it who cares well that's Vicki that's the thing though you've been teasing this whole fucking movie that he's crooked you've been doing all this red herring shit and it needs to be a thing where he's

like Vicky why did I just see that a truck of robots went out to you know whatever we're not delivering any robots tonight and it's like dun dun dun dun and he would definitely give a good mother kind of shit to the camera and she'd fucking kill him and it would be awesome possibly through force lightning because what's going on with his neck that makeup that they have on his neck I was like

that looks like electrocution this fucking AI computer electrocuted this dude to death and we don't even see it it's just Will Smith going I've been chasing after the wrong robot the whole time yes and I mean like that's why you would hire someone that

wasn't fainting woman number three and Freddie got fingered To do the voice of Vicky to maybe if that, if you want to do that, see. Right, yeah. I mean, but the movie needs it, though, man. And it's two questions. It's like, I mean, it's 2004, you know, you know, I feel as if the goodwill towards Will Smith was still there. Like, who was saying no?

Who said no to the fucking psychologist role that went to Bridgett Moynihan? And who said no? Or did they just not want to pay a real actor for this Vicky thing? Kate Winslet to do it. She's got a nice British voice. There you go. Get anyone who, like, is, I don't know, a character actor with a good smooth voids.

You don't need to go super, you know. Right. Fiona Shaw. Name name. Oh, nice. If we get to see the electrocution, we could have gotten a electric skeleton, which is one of my favorite things in movies.

Yes, of course. The Blanca skeleton. I love that. Totally. But yeah, so Vicki's whole thing is like, yes, very much also in like, end of beneath the planet of the apes. We kind of have this conversation also, like human beings.

don't deserve the planet we have. And so we don't deserve to be on it. It's basically her idea here. And it's like, I think the trivia says that Asimov people refer to this as like the zeroeth law of robotics is like all those laws are totally true, except if they're going to destroy themselves on the planet that the robots also live on. Then it's okay that we start killing these people. So that's like her idea.

I mean, it doesn't seem like she is planning to kill all here. so much as like control us because she's like we must save you from yourself and like oh you can't be trusted with your own survival so we're going to like take control because you toxify your own earth and like you keep waging wars and shit and I'm like but I'm like what would that even look like we're just like can't leave our houses like I don't know exactly why wouldn't you just kill us like after a certain point if you've evolved enough she's a hero she's trying to save the planet. She'll give me a UBI. Maybe it'll feel like COVID lockdown,

which would suck, but you know, maybe that finally they would stop dumping sewage and chemicals into the Hudson River. That'd be wonderful. Honestly, dude, I think I'm with you here because her first act as temporary ruler of the world, such as it is,

is to murder the richest man on the planet. So not a bad track record for Vicki for her first day on the job. And like totally fucking. with the Chicago police department and like, hold them bitches down. I'm like, you know, I'm like, okay, Bicky,

keep going. Let's see how, let's see. Keep cooking. Let's see what's up. I mean, she doesn't rough up Granny. Granny is allowed to pray, but Granny's a little on edge. Oh, she's praying hard too. I was like, this is, I don't like this. She's praying hard for two reasons though. One, yes, robots

waging war everywhere. You probably want to pray to Jesus about that, but also not Jesus. Jesus ain't no. Now, the Lord Satan, he'll come through in a NGO. I don't know him, but I'm sure. Great guy. She's sweating it because she's missing service that night because she's literally

going to leave the apartment to go to church and the robot's like, no, I don't think so. And she's like, but I have to go to Saturday night service. So she's praying to be like getting the credit. Like, listen, I tried to go to service. This fucking robot wouldn't let me leave the house. Jesus, look, I'm praying right now. That was the beginning of her prayer. Again, that Jesus has to let you into heaven no matter what a robot did it sorry it's not on me dude i can't leave my

house a robot's gonna beat me up i feel like jesus is starting to get like a lot of those prayers like jesus i wish i could be in church but a robot is locking me in my house and he's like what is going on down there what are what are they doing well no because god and j god and jesus are so antiquated that they're like a robot what is that type of a type of boat what is that yeah they haven't looked in on us in a minute i guess they said fuck it Is that a wooden toy soldier getting you? Oh, wait, what? So, you know, I've got to be honest, I've been, I spaced out the last 200 years.

Apologies. I've been really spacey. Happens to the best of us. So, yeah, the whole thing is now we've got to upload them nanobots into Vicky. And once you know it, it's in a big, weird control room thing. And Will Smith kind of has a point here. He's like, what is with you fucking technological people in the way you design these things? Like, why does this have to be a Star Wars?

contraption I got to go down on. Going down on a... Go down on Vicky, actually. We don't know if these robots do that, guys. They don't tell us in the movie. Oh my God, that would be the best is the end of the movie, and that Will Smith and Bridgett-Waintinghan do hook up.

And, like, he goes down, and then he comes up, and his face is all, like, blue for some reason. He's like, you're a robot. Credits directed by Alex Proyo. I love that idea There's a blue sludge or something I don't know I don't know how those robots go

It's on my business There's no more of the skin spray on his arm anymore It's just robot So wow They didn't think about that Really wild Sunny would be a third in this mix I feel for sure

Oh totally yeah yeah If you're fucking these things Only if So whatever This end of this movie is We gotta inject This stupid thing With the Mano Bites

we have a nanobots we have a huge fucking fight scene with all these robots sunny the robots getting in on it helping oh are we going to fall oh we're definitely not going to fall oh we'll smith uses will smith because this is a callback to his story about like the robot told me that I had a better percentage of being saved than

Sarah my weird obsessive dead girl did she was only at 11% and he's like yes that was somebody's baby 11% is good enough for me so in this instance he does statistically have the better chance of being saved than she does and he's like go fucking save her I'll deal with shutting down this thing so he uses this big robot arm to like slide down

the fiber cables in there or whatever because it's in his contract he has to save the world he saves the world he does he does do it I love the final exchange with Vicky she's like my logic is undeniable and he's like you so have have to die. Yes.

That's like, it's not even like a one, two. It's just like, what? It's a line that when you would hear in like a really poorly written episode of Buffy, like that would be a bad- I've seen those. They're out there. There's a lot of them. About a third of the series, yeah.

Yeah, I would say. In that third, that healthy third of bad Buffy episodes with bad writing, you would get that, you know, you so have to die. stab but like yeah it should be like my logic is infallible your logic you know it just you need to turn that back on her somehow your logic your logic could kiss my black ass yes and it kills her your logic here it comes here it comes your logic ha ha ha ha ha big wheelie style all in it

nah nah nah nah nah nah la la da I love that extra half star We get this shot of, when this thing dies and goes down, you get this shot of the city of Chicago, like all the lights coming back on. This is like, it's like the cityscape that you would see at the start of a Ninja Turtles video game.

I'm sorry, it is fucking terrible. Again, these, it's not just the special effects. It's all of the digital art that is in this movie is so rotten. Rotten! It's bad and cheap. They're looking, the three of them are looking, out of the sun, like, as if anyone ever cared, they're like, well, Sonny, you did kill James Cromwell, didn't you? I'm like, the movie's over. I don't care. Yeah, it's like, let's go. I have my purse

and coat off. Let's go. I am rushing to the bathroom at this point. Yeah, I've had a huge soda during this movie that I definitely left for five minutes to get a refill on because it's I robot. But we got to underline this stupid thing about breadcrumbs. Oh, because, oh, he knew that his death would trigger this investigation the first breadcrumb to the end of the movie. Yeah, dude, how about a well written note that explains that Vicky is evil? Well, he's being watched

by Vicki. The only thing he can do is die. I guess so. So he kills himself and like, uh, he realizes Sonny's like, yes, he made me do it. You know, he made me, he made me promised that I would agree to do it before he told me what the thing was he wanted me to do. That's a robot that keeps a promise, man. I

to say they shake hands and then Bridget Moynihan and Will Smith are like hmm that's kind of that yeah we're mentally kissing that's what's happening interesting adventure that was pretty stevie there for a second yeah Chris Cabin mental makeout that's that's what was happening there also don't got to show it the uh the shot of Will Smith shaking hands with this robot we're doing like a close up of the hands like yeah coming together and it's you guessed it's slow motion because this movie just has to be a few seconds longer

just shake the fucking thing's hand and get out of here please does anyone know what the ending means is it a good ending or is it a bad ending because like the robot sunny goes off yes nobody knows sunny goes off and he's going all these M5 or whatever

is the NS5s NS5s are being like hoarded off to the storage facility and then sunny shows up they all kind of look at him and it's like well here's the thing that we're told that like that landfill that's where all these like you know robots go to retire that's their farm upstate which i guess i get but like you know recycling electronics is very hard you shouldn't just throw your computer out on the street i get that but like these ns fives are a special case these were able to be controlled by the fucking neuronet of this ai if there was ever a time to just like melt some things down yep it's these guys don't leave that army just just out there because it is a very, I think, I think it is supposed to be what is he going to do? Like, is he going to continue to be

nice, sunny, who's different than all the rest? Or is he going to use that difference to teach all the rest? Is he like the Caesar in this planet of the robots? Is this a sequel setup? Maybe. I was wondering the same thing. It could have had one. Sequels set up with a question mark, I think.

Because you can't really tell either way. But this did very well. It has the same like opening weekend as the new bad boys, pretty much. It was like 52, 53 million. Yeah, that's 20 years ago, $53 million. You know what I mean? But it's the end of the movie and I don't know if robots are good or not.

You know what I mean? And it's not an interesting debate I'm going to have with anybody on the way home from the movie either. But you could have had that debate if this movie was not an action movie. If this was not a summer blockbuster, if it was like a heady meat and potato sci-fi thing, it would force that issue, would

force that conversation would be the end result of walking out of the theater. oh yeah if this movie wasn't this movie oh 100% it could have been good if it wasn't this oh 100% fair enough but that is the end of iRobot director by Alex Proyes and I guess technically starring Will Smith we'll go around the horn here for some

final thoughts with our lovely guest we'll start with you Angelica final thoughts on iRobot final thoughts I found it hilarious and I know it wasn't trying to be funny and also incredibly anti-black. You guys think I'm kidding? Listeners out there? I'm actually not.

I think this movie has some very weird racial politics. And, you know, while the quote I read from the film, The Mark of Lilith was talking about horror, I think science fiction can like be applied to that where, you know, you're exploring ideas of the other, you're using like real life examples of marginalization as metaphor and so on and so forth. But that takes a very careful hand because otherwise you get into some really weird territory where you have Bridget Moynihan, whatever that white woman's name is, right?

Yeah, you nailed it. Yes, that's it. Being like stuck up and Will Smith being incredibly unfunny and there's nothing. There's really nothing here. know it's a waste of time i hadn't thought about it in almost 20 years and i will never think about it ever again uh chris cabin oh it's crap i it's i i this i don't understand because this also happens around like shark tale time oh for will smith and i'm just like these were all options that like should have gone away like i know he started producing movies that

he was going to be in at one point. Showtime, the Eddie Murphy Robert De Niro Garbage. Oh, was he supposed to be? A Will Smith vehicle, which is more fitting of what he does, like much more closer to his thing. I feel like this was, we were just

talking about Beverly Hills Cop 3 and how Eddie Murphy wanted to be taken seriously. Like, and I kind of get, I think that's what he was doing here. Ali didn't do well. So he thought maybe if we bring this to a side by blockbuster and a bigger

like a big fucking movie maybe then it works it doesn't it's horrible if the scenes I don't think I've ever seen graphics as bad as when they are in elevators in this movie those are bad you see the background yep so fucking bad but yeah just crap it is awful by the way

we said we were just talking about Beverly Hills Cop 3 we will be doing that next week but we were doing that we recorded these shows out of order so spoiler alert for next week Beverly Hills Cop 3 yes Uh, in looking at it, yeah, what's crazy is the year before this movie came out was fucking Bad Boys 2. So this was his follow up to Bad Boys 2. Sharktail is the same year. And then

the year after this, he has, oh, bad year for him. Sharkdale has Angelina Jolie voicing a fuckable fish, right? Am I making that out? Yep. And Martin Scorsese as a fish. Wow. That's an even more fuckable fish. Oh, of course, the most fuckable. Oh, I want to get into those gills. And then the year after that, he did, he did hitch was a hit but in a different That was a huge hit with my mom and every mom Yeah, where Kevin James plays A fuckable fact guy, so there you go.

That's nice, that's nice. Eric Siska. Yeah, boring, bad effects. It's just every level to me, a total snooze and a failure avoided at all costs, really dreadful. Bland Runner is what I was calling it, and that is what it is. I do like Bland Runner, dude.

I think you can run with that one. a that's a solid option. Steve Saneck, final thoughts on I-Robot. Yeah, it's not a recommend. It's a very pale, nothing of a movie. I think it just doesn't, it's like three or four bad ideas at once. I don't think there's a good version of this movie. Sometimes I was like, oh, man, if they just did, no, there's no good version of this movie.

Salt the Earth with it, it's not. And I don't think, you know, Will Smith can be engaging and can be a fun, a fun, charismatic lead for a movie like this, but not. this the amount of impassioned speeches he gives and the cry face about stuff it's just it's all misspent energy like it's just yeah just give money to charity don't don't make don't make i robot you know what i mean good note good note yeah yeah no it's funny because after uh you know seeing bad boys ride or die which i liked quite a bit and it's still it's sitting nicely with me now almost a week later i thought it was very entertaining he's very funny in it uh intentionally so. I started thinking about, oh, yeah, I should, I don't know, I should rewatch some of these

Will Smith action movies. Like, I mean, July 4th is right around the corner, so ID4 will be in the conversation. But I was thinking about all these movies and like, yeah, I definitely want to go back to those first two bad boys specifically, you know, want to check that out. You know, maybe I'll hurt myself a little bit, rewatch that I am legend. We just did the men and black cartoon on animation animation. So I'm thinking about rewatching, you know, some of those movies, too. This movie just never crossed my mind. It's almost, as if like it didn't exist and then when like we came up with the ideas like oh maybe this would be a good one to do i was like oh yeah i robot like it's just it's that fucking forgettable like

a dude who's got like an incredibly memorable filmography and to have it be such a big successful movie that's essentially completely forgotten you don't see this on hotel tv you're not coming across this on tn t after a late west coast basketball game wraps up like none of that shit. No, you're right. Nobody gives a shit about this movie. And I think, rightfully so. Like, pop culture and the zeitgeist has done right by iRobot, by

letting us all, forget it, so we could do this episode and remind everybody about it. But that is going to do it for this episode of We Hate Movies. Angelica, you want to plug anything that you got out? I got to say, I'm going to give you some props. Your essay on Powow Highway, I read from your newsletter.

I thought it was fucking great, and I really want to see that movie. I'm deficient in Native American filmmaking and this movie sounds rad as fuck and you did a great job writing about it. Yeah, Pow Wow Highway is an amazing film. I've been watching a lot of films from 1989 over the last year and I'm like wow, that's like surprisingly like a really good year and I didn't realize it. Yeah. You know, Powwow Highway is just such a great example of what independent cinema can do when it cares about both history, characterization, and taking an honest look in if it's American

independent cinema at this country and I think Powell Highway does it in such a righteous fucking way it's such a fucking fun movie and it's like an hour 30 like it's pretty short and it's on criterion but like Andrew said I wrote that essay for my newsletter Mad

Women and Muses which you can find on Substack in terms of my regular degular shit you can always find me at New York Magazine site Bolter that is where I work as a film critic. I am not on Twitter because I love myself. I'm barely on Instagram and I keep it private so don't try to friend me. And Blue Sky I show up to and then I

forget I have it. So, me too. And I think that's what's great. Nationwide. Yeah. That's a nationwide feeling. Nobody is. Oh, I know. I will give a hint for something coming up that I think people will like. So at Volcher, we have this rubric basically called In Conversation. where you have like these long career-spanning, like, conversations with like an actor, director, whomever. Like, for example, my coworker Bilga Iberi did one on Samuel L. Jackson with him last year. And like these are, like, the first interview is usually like two hours with the person and then you have follow-ups. I did one with an amazing actress who's been working for the last few decades. And to give you guys a hint, which if you follow me on Instagram, this will be easy.

to figure out. I dressed up as her horror icon character for Halloween last year. Oh, wow. It was great in that way. Bridget Moynihan. So I'll give that hint. That'll probably be out in a few weeks, but I mean, I'll tell you guys when we stopped recording, but I'm really excited to, to just kind of have it out there in the world. another fun thing you know if you figure it out listening to this that I think a fun detail for fans

she wore a rainbow shirt that had just the word mother on it and I'm like yeah you are mother yeah nice that's awesome exactly who it is so yeah look up Angelica's writing y'all because she's one of the best to fucking do it

tell you right now but that is going to do it for us here if you want more we hate movies content And, of course, you got to check out our family shows over on Patreon. Patreon.com slash we hate movies. We got a we love movies up there about Bobby Z's Back to the Future Three. That was a very fun one. That's a fun, funny action movie that we had a good time talking about.

What else? What else? Oh, animation damnation. Steve? Sort of big Willie style on that because we're talking about men in black, but even though he has nothing to do with it. Couldn't even license that song for the theme song. No, bummer.

Pretty atrocious. Over on once in a lifetime. return this June, Chris Cabin with the notorious B.A.G. himself, Brian Austin Green. Yes. Unwet father playing a very David Silver-esque character. If he maybe, if reality maybe shook him a little heart is what we're seeing here. And you know what? It's quite a fun time. And you know, on the Gleap Glossary, we've got a character that's sort of similar to I-Robot because it's a guy who was a Jedi who then became a robot and then wanted to kill himself. So, We're talking Nietzsche Smar, the character everyone knows and loves obviously.

A.k.a. Guy Robot, dude. He's just guy robot. No one knows that character, but check it out. Listen to us bullshit about it. Speaking of David Silver, I believe there's a few days from now, if you're listening to this on the day it drops, Melrode 210 coming out, real, real banger on both sides of the ball on Melroote 210, I feel. Shit hitting the fan, dude. It's finally happening.

Exciting. I love listening to that. Oh, yay. Yeah. Oh, we just, we love getting into the fucking drama every month on Melro 2.10 and the shit is hitting the fan in this episode coming up. Speaking of stuff coming up, that's right. The Q2 commentary for 2024 is going to drop in just a couple weeks. That's right. Harry Potter and the goblet of fireman, Terry, forgot which one were out there for a second. And just a reminder, us doing Harry Potter movies means we endorse everything that JK Allen has ever said. I want to be really clear about that. No. No. No. Fucking guts. She's the worst. Yeah, we are sure to remind people about that at the start of it. It's the second longest Harry Potter movie. We made it all the way through. That's a lot of fun. I just have to cue see that, but I've done the edit on it.

Very funny stuff. So all that and more over on patreon.com slash we hate movies, including ad free we hate movies at the $8 level and up. So if you're listening to this on the free feed, you had some commercials come your way. And hey, if that bothers you, there's an $8 or up solution that can eradicate it for you.

And you can listen to the show without commercials. Steve, I think we talked about it already, but next week's episode is indeed. Beverly Hills Cop 3. Everybody's talking about it. For right now, at least, we'll see what happens when this Axel F, Beverly Hills Cop colon, Axel F comes out.

But right now, it is the record holder, the fucking worst Beverly Hills Cop movie by Country Mile. So that was a lot of fun. It's always great talking about Eddie in one way or another. So that is it. it. That's all that's been fit to gab about this week. Again, Angelica, open seat. Anytime you want to hop on. It's always great. Love coming on. Love you all. So until next week, when we're hanging out at Wonder World, I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadeack. Eric Siskin. Chris Gavin.

Angelica Jade Bastien. Take it easy. Thank you.