We Hate Movies - S14 Ep746: Beverly Hills Cop III

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

“You don’t need to ask for directions anymore, you’re no longer a fish out of water!” - Andrew on Axel’s third time in Los Angeles  On this week’s episode, the Summer Blockbuster Extrav...aganza tackles an action comedy sequel that didn’t need to exist at all, and no one wanted to make in the first place, Beverly Hills Cop III! What in the hell tone were they shooting for with this movie? How is Axel not blamed for Inspector Todd’s death at the hands of Ellis De Wald? Why did they replace Taggart with Hector Elizondo playing a guy who’s just Taggart with different facial hair? How is Wonder World still open for business after all the carnage Axel and company carry out on park grounds? And how hilarious and great is this George Lucas cameo? PLUS: What was the Tunnel of Love supposed to represent at the end? Beverly Hills Cop III stars Eddie Murphy, Timothy Carhart, Stephen McHattie, Judge Reinhold, Hector Elizondo, John Saxon, Theresa Randle, Alan Young, Bronson Pinchot, and George Lucas as Disappointed Man; directed by John Landis. Be sure to pick up your tickets for our summer time WORLD WIDE DIGITAL EVENT where we’ll be talking all about the action classic SPEED! Head over to Moment dot co slash We Hate Movies and get your tickets now— and don’t forget to bundle in your ticket for the Q&A After Party that’s going down right after the show that night! Can’t make it to the live show? No problem! The show will be available for replay for a full TWO WEEKS after air. So you’ve got 14 days to check out the show after it happens! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new SHEENPRIL, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs!   Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on We Hate Movies, it's a sequel, no one. And I mean, no one wanted to do. It's Beverly Hills Cop 3. I'm Axel Juppin. I'm Stephen Sadek. I'm Uncle Eric. Okie dokey, okie dokey, dokey. And we hate movies.
Starting point is 00:00:16 I love you, okay dokey. Hello everyone, welcome to we hate movies, thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. Just in time for the soon to be released, Axel F. or Beverly Hillscoff accident. We can't just put a fucking four in anything. You have to reference the franchise somehow. You can't you cannot have a title that doesn't have
Starting point is 00:01:11 Beverly Hills Cop in it. It has to be there. So the F is for Foley, not for the cinema score it's good a kid. I like that one though. This is indeed a conversation all around Beverly Hills Cop 3 from 1994. Somehow Jurassic Park was out in the world
Starting point is 00:01:27 before the third Beverly Hills Cop movie. I I can't believe that. And of course, directed by a, uh, uh, criminal. Well, no, no, no, no. I was going to say, you know, accused. Chapa. What that, whatever the hell happened to him. Uh, helicopter parents. Manslaughter director, John Lampitz. That's right. Uh, that's vehicular manslaughter. Oh, yeah. That's a big vehicular. We're going to, look, yes, it is vehicular manslaughter. I want us to underline the slaughter in this. That's, let's really put a big line under that one. Oh, my God. Did you hear some of those quotes that Eddie Murphy. he had said about the incident. It's wild that they work together after that. Right, because he said, I'd work with John Landis again when he's able to work with Vignor. Yeah. Yeah. And like, dude, what was that phone call where it was like, uh, hey, Eddie,
Starting point is 00:02:12 it's John Landis. Yeah, the heat's really coming down. I mean, there's, would you please be a character witness for me at this trial? No, goodbye. Absolutely not. I'm going to go hang out with Charles Dance. Excuse me. He's doing the Steve Sadec maneuver. No, I won't character witness you. Absolutely not. No, I was a character witness for a dog once.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, yeah. I wrote a letter for a Joe's dog. For a dog. There was accused, wrongfully accused of biting a girl at a party. But there were multiple witnesses that that lady was fucking with a dog and that dog that I happened to know. There's witnesses that that lady was
Starting point is 00:02:45 fucking with that dog. And I had evidence. My character witness that dog was a tremendous public service record. Oh, it was a hero dog. It was a goddamn hero dog. Did he actually like bring you in to do? Because He texted me to write a like
Starting point is 00:03:01 I wrote a letter Oh yeah okay that's what I did so we're both Character witnesses for that dog Didn't testify at the trial No that would have been fun Does seem like he had all the names of everyone Who was at parties with this dog You know what smart move
Starting point is 00:03:14 So they didn't execute it They did not execute the time did though Yeah how's the dog doing now I just said time executed it Oh time did Yeah I guess it comes for us all It does especially dogs go quick When he said time did
Starting point is 00:03:27 I thought there was like a court term not that I know like you tell the stenographer time did but also Murphy had like reportedly put uh landis at a headlock
Starting point is 00:03:38 on the set of uh what he calls trading places no coming to America oh yes because there was like so there was like budgetary disputes with the crew and then like
Starting point is 00:03:45 land is like go talk to Eddie fucking Murphy and then all apocryful from Eddie Murphy's point of view he was playfully putting landis in a headlock and then made him pass out
Starting point is 00:03:55 which is I just picture that and I'm like chef kiss. That's one of the funniest things. He did that shit. Oh, yeah. Exactly. And also, come on. And you know everyone wanted to beat up John Landis. Of course. And I mean, Murphy,
Starting point is 00:04:07 I mean, if you'll believe those Charlie Murphy stories, he had a crew. He was going around in Hollywood fucking shit up. Absolutely. That's what Entourage should have been. Oh, my God. That would have been a much more interesting show. It was just based on the life of Eddie Murphy instead of Mark Wahlberg. Yes. Please. Yes, please. Because also then
Starting point is 00:04:22 you could have said it in the 80s. It would have been less obnoxious. I mean, that's the problem with entourage. It was a goddamn hero story as opposed to like, No, they're just kind of petty assholes that, like, muscle their way into parties and, like, fuck with people a lot. You know what I mean? Like the lady with the dog. Exactly. Stop fucking with people.
Starting point is 00:04:41 This is a movie that I... Or dogs. Sorry. Either or. Don't fuck with anybody. Just let everybody be, man. How about that? This is a movie I constantly forget exists.
Starting point is 00:04:49 How about that? Let's start there. I had this. Oh, yeah. I love this movie as a kid. Really? I was a dumb kid. I had this off the Columbia house.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So I had, like, the fucking real tape. You had like four copies of it. I think I only saw this like twice, maybe. It just, I love, the whole series. I love, well, that's because I love the first one. I hated the second one as a kid, and I want to go back. Really? I think I was too stupid to get it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I remember liking one and two, but it's been a while for you. Well, one and two, I have seen countless times. Like, yeah, I can't even count it. But the third one, I remember always liking, but like it is very clearly a lethal weapon for issue here where, like, it's, we're not going as far as, had the family really come in but like everything is subdued everything is just kind of funnier than it
Starting point is 00:05:34 should be like it's just kind of buddies ribbing each other but it's also weird like Eddie Murphy is particularly not funny in it like everybody else is goofball extreme and then Eddie Murphy trying to because you know again all these apocryphal IMDB trivia things like he was playing down the comedy because he wanted
Starting point is 00:05:50 to like be more of like a Denzel kind of action star or whatever like serious gritty whatever so it's like him and fucking what's his name plays playing Ellis Duwold, who I think, like, that's a great villain. They're in one movie, and then literally everybody else in this movie is in another movie.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Whoever played Alice Duwold, the guy, he's, he was the snotty violinist from Ghostbusters. He's also Saliva Man from X-Files. He disintegrates people with the saliva. But clearly a lot of people passed. Like, this is not
Starting point is 00:06:24 the guy you make your foil. Tim Carhart. And he's great in this movie. The energy of it does, I do feel the Landis thing there. Like the tension, like, I also, yeah, I'm sure the Denzel thing was part of it. But I also just, I'm like, he doesn't want to do this. No, right. Like, and he worked with somebody that he would say he'd rather work with somebody murdered. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:45 It's also working. I feel like the first two movies are more grounded in like a reality. Yes. And this is like a heightened fake reality, but he's trying to be more grounded as the character. Right. That's against itself. It goes against self. But I do get that as like.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We're moving, it is a Hollywood movie now. Like the first one was Detroit, I think Detroit into L.A. And of course, Detroit and LA, of course, Detroit and LA, the second one. But, like, it wasn't specifically dealing with the entertainment business. And this one is centered completely on the entertainment business. I also think that there were versions of the script. There was a lot of versions of the script about Axel going to England. We were trying to get this character in the UK.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I think that's probably a better idea because at least you get the fish out of water comedy there. Yep. Here he knows, he knows which freeway. way to take. He's been to L.A. quite a few times. It's well-versed. Yeah, the fish-out-of-water thing just isn't there anymore because it's like, yeah, man, you don't need to ask for directions anymore. I think that's when you're officially not a fish
Starting point is 00:07:38 out of water. Exactly. You know the good restaurants? You know how to get to the police station without using a map? Like, exactly. But I think the problem there is, like, you'd have to then call it something really stupid. Like, Beverly Hills Cop goes to the UK. Yeah, I guess that's a tough one. Beverly Hills, Bobby?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. Oh. Maybe. But in Ronnie Cox, very specifically, He read the script, he hated it, he didn't want to do it. And then the guy who played Taggart, whoever that gentleman's name was. Not Hector Al-A-Lazondo. Yes. Also walked, and they just very clearly just gave those lines to take out Hector-A-Lazzo. But Tagger's back for the new one.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He certainly is. He's back in that trailer, dude. The Hector-A-Lazondo thing is insane. They barely changed anything, right? They just, like, let's have them look the same act. He's a surly older gentleman who's bald. Got it. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:27 They call themselves out a little bit on that is because when they get, there's a scene where like everybody gets a, there's an attack on Wonderworld, everybody get there. And like, Billy does the Axel. And like,
Starting point is 00:08:41 that makes sense. Right. He's known him for years. Yeah. Hector Elizondo says, Axel. Yeah, and he drops his taco.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I'm like, what? That's Taggart should have been dropping that taco. You're absolutely perfect. That's the only person who can say it like that. By the way, played by John Ashton. Ashton, that's the guy's name. And he's great. He's great.
Starting point is 00:08:56 movies. He's a good surly dude and he pops up and he's just a big surly dude and like in Elizondo's softer but like they're trying to get him there and I mean I love Victor Elizondo yeah I'm not going to complain but it is just so it's that oh wow he's acting like him and he looks just like him too
Starting point is 00:09:13 the problem is they should have made Elizondo the Ronnie Cox like boss character because then he's not on the same level as as well I guess no because then they sort of elevate Judge Reinhold into the boss role he's like like the head of this. Elizondo's kind of pathetic in this movie.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah. He's just like S and Duald's D the whole movie. He's a fucking loser. Just to get that second contract kind of a thing, that second gig. I think that they try to play that for like a is Elizondo in on it? Like as the new character. Which would be great
Starting point is 00:09:44 as opposed to Stephen McHaddy reveal at the end of this movie. Yeah. No one's it. Eddie Murphy's not interested in it. Stephen McHaddy isn't interested in it. It's so bad that like, and I do not like being they you could drive a truck through it sleuth i don't want to be that guy but i remember re-watching it yesterday and just thinking like they don't even explain how axel figures out mcaddy's also
Starting point is 00:10:07 crooked yes exactly he's just like oh yeah there's another guy that's in on it too and like mcaddy's like you got me and pulls and i was like no no no no mcaddy don't wait a second he hasn't said how he knows it's you well that's in the other and the first two part of what's grounded about them is that those two are based in police work like it is the investigation is a huge part especially in the second one my god but like the second one's almost a paperwork movie at parts I mean I really like that movie but yes it is a lot of offices
Starting point is 00:10:33 um the third one the thing the only time you see him doing cop work really is when he gets the slip of paper and from the dust they got from the truck the truck right right right right like the one time and like everything else is just kind of like goofy and fun he's running around shooting his gut
Starting point is 00:10:50 in public no accountability to that point they fucking it begins with them about to take down a chop shop that's thing and Detroit Michigan 130 a.m. They're just
Starting point is 00:11:03 talking and the Todd is there of course the beloved Captain Todd and then what happens? You get like a musical number like these oh why you it's actually kind of answers are crazy. It's kind of wonderful one of the fat dancers is the
Starting point is 00:11:19 dude is one of the guys from usual he's a ton of stuff. Give them money. Give them money. Yeah, exactly. You know who the fuck I am? We do now, jerk off. Sorry, I know that movie backwards and forwards. But he's that guy, and they're just dancing to, like, Diana Ross or something. I don't know what we're going for here.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But it's amazing because, like, nine minutes later, they're all annihiling. Yes. It's just weird because I guess Landis, whoever wants more comedy in the movie. Here's a way to add some comedy. But then, budding up against a gunfight, it doesn't really work. It's really jarring. And they're just doing a big dance routine. And then here comes Ellis.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Wald and all his dudes and it's kind of amazing the dude from Tony Lau or whatever that guy's name is all stuntmen in his chop shop just watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in it for like a split second. Yes. Yeah. Oh, Al Lung
Starting point is 00:12:11 from like diehard A bunch of trouble in Will China. Love him. That's a blinking you miss it like that dude's getting shot in the head. That's the end of it. But yeah, like I feel a good rule of thumb is like if you're making a movie and so you're in your filming a scene and you want to have
Starting point is 00:12:27 like jazz hands cutesy Diana Ross fat guy dancing you just got to check a few pages ahead and be like we got any squibs in this scene are there human beings having their chest explode for gunfire oh there is maybe not the cute dancing at the top of it
Starting point is 00:12:42 why are they doing it like maybe if they're celebrating this big deal that's about to go through because apparently I guess mechanics stole mint money from the U.S. government and is now selling it to Ellis DeWals to print in Disney world. Wasn't it a beginning of heat hijack? Like they took the truck
Starting point is 00:12:59 like they do it. Oh, right. And they brought it here. Like, yeah, they have a sideline doing illegal shit. But I got to tell you, whenever you're about to do an illegal deal, like be on your toes, of course. But if you see these people getting out of a car with gloves on
Starting point is 00:13:15 immediately get some kind of weapon in your hand. I would say just shoot them just to be safe. But like, hey, at least get a weapon out. Because the outside Axel, is like Todd is like, where's the SWAT team? He's like, I cancel the SWAT team. These are just low rung, chop shop guys.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I don't even do they have guns. So, like, I think that's sort of the idea is like these guys don't even know what they have. Right, right, right, right. They're like, sweethearts, I guess, because they're dancing around. But it's also calling off the SWAT team is also his bravado. I can do anything. I mean, he needs to leave Detroit because, A,
Starting point is 00:13:47 the fact that only Captain Todd is murdered in this siege is insane. Real lucky they didn't get the Joey Travolta. Oh, man. And isn't that a big loss? It's like, you know, you get, you're doing this thing. You specifically called off the SWATC, your boss gets shot with 50 bullets or whatever it is. That's on you, right? What do you, and then I'm going to leave the state for a while?
Starting point is 00:14:06 I don't think so. I is like, why don't you hang out for a little bit? Don't go anywhere, Mr. Foley. We think you're projecting, Axel. I think this is really your fault and you should really take it on this. Oh, no, but then I'm going to murder someone in California. Or I would murder a lot of people in California. Well, you know what, that clears it.
Starting point is 00:14:20 That's, you know, we're all good, then. That's fine. The, so yeah, the Ellis DeWald comes in. He wants to see the, the merchandise, which is kind of for money or whatever, the paper. Right. And he opens, he's like, pay the man, gentlemen. And these guys open up these suitcases filled with machine guns that are covered by Wonderworld towels. Dude, don't bring the towels from work.
Starting point is 00:14:47 How about that? Let's just go to the fucking Kmart, get some pink fucking towels, whatever they got on the rack. By the way, I want that to carry over for this new movie. I want Axel Foley to be subscribed to Wonder Plus. There's no Disney, it's Wonder. Dude, honestly, like, I'll say hold your breath because you just might be able to breathe easy. It would not surprise me if something like that exists. He calls in a favor from Uncle Dave's son, because Uncle Dave's son, because Uncle Dave's
Starting point is 00:15:14 probably dead. Oh, yeah, whoever Uncle Dave's son is. Did he get him to get shot by some guy? By Ellis DeWalt again. He came back from the dead. You're a black guy shot Uncle Dave. Weird lines. Such a bizarre drop in this movie.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It is a, I guess in the constants, a context of like word going through Beverly Hills such as it is. And I mean, that's what the first two movies are about. It's like he's literally a black guy in Beverly Hills. And he's from Detroit. He's a tough guy. Exactly. That's the fish out of water. It's like, yeah, he's not from Los Angeles, but he's also just sort of like, it's really about a black guy being in Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And all the stuff he has to deal with. But like my favorite little, like, I guess it's a compromise, I guess is what it is. But like the fact that they have to depict the LAPD, not as bloodthirsty Nazis, but actually like yuppies. Like that's their main thing is they're all yuppies. See, the real bad guys are security guards. Yes, that's where all the real problems are. You can just kill them indiscriminately. How many of them were in on this fucking thing?
Starting point is 00:16:22 I don't. I guess they all were. Those people can be poor, Eric. You know what? So that, that's really the villain here. Well, because isn't that also the thing that it's that weird thing about Beverly Hills is like they have their own, it's like their own police force outside of the LAPD. Oh, really? So it's like a weirder, like, insular kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So it is kind of funny that they are like yuppie scum. tennis court kissers. It's supposed to be so funny that he has to talk into a fucking microphone when he arrives at the LAPD and that they've like automated everything
Starting point is 00:16:54 and like made it like type it in wait for the something and he's like rather than he walks in and honestly it fucking slows now what's good about those original movies is that he is walking in there and there's a workplace
Starting point is 00:17:06 that you can watch working and like moving in concert it's cool. Not a lot of police stations set design in this movie. It's really just like Judge Reinhold's office and that's kind of it. So Ellis DeWald lays waste to all these dudes.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. It's a fun looking It is. Massacre. It's a great looking massacre. But again, like one, yeah, don't bring the merch from work. And also I don't know, Ellis DeWold, you're up for like fucking security guard of the year and all this stuff. Maybe you don't go on
Starting point is 00:17:34 the mission. You have all these underlings. You can't trust anybody? Keep the captain on the ship. Don't go on the away mission. Well, I'm always like, all the cooking in Detroit so I want to try some food while I'm there I'm going it's like the capital of the enterprise like I'm going on the away machine there's Detroit style
Starting point is 00:17:50 pizza on the surface last time nobody died and I am really upset about that so I'm going to be here to make sure you slaughter fucking everybody like that I have to imagine what was the towel thing was that to like get through like scanners I don't know is that what like I don't even know
Starting point is 00:18:08 is the gun kind of greasy that needs to be like held in the It's going to ruin the suitcase. I don't know why you would bring a towel that says Wonderworld, which is where you work. Other than to give him the most obvious clue in the fucking world. This is where I go. It's free swag. You can't resist it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 It's true. But they biff a similar thing, too, because they steal a wallet from the lost and found at Wonderworld and use that guy's ID to rent the car. And that's how they figure out to go to fucking Beverly Hills. Yes, there's like two Wonderworld things that Axel's like, aha, it has to be Wonderworld. Dude, that's on you, guys. Like, real just criminal ineptitude here is what we're dealing with. So Axel shows up, realizes, oh, shit, it's a huge raid. All of his guys come in.
Starting point is 00:18:53 There's a great moment where some cops trip over a dead body, which I really enjoyed. That's very funny. This whole sequence is great. It's a real good action sequence. And, yeah, the inspector comes back, Todd here in the two previous films. So you kind of are sniffing around, like, maybe this dude's not long for this world. Sure enough, wouldn't you know it? This dude is assassinated.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I love this guy. Two in the back from Ellis DeWald after also being shot in the chest, I feel. El DeWald got him, finished him off. But also, Buck who likes to fuck is one of his guys. Oh, really? I think he's the guy who answers the door when Axel comes at first. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And this leads to him stealing a red sports car. And it's kind of a funny thing here where it's like, oh, look at this hot sports car. And then he goes to drive it, and it's clearly, like, in the process of being chopped down. So, like, the doors and other shit are off it. Makes for a nice little chase here, although it doesn't last particularly long. I mean, the chase is amazing because they're in a big truck, and there's a guy on the back of the truck with a huge machine gun inches away from Axel Foley, shooting everything but that dude.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Big miss. It's incredible. Well, the city of Detroit did give him a force field after the second movie. Oh, I see. You are a representative of our people. The violence is kind of wild here. It's great. I love that guy that gets shot in the truck. Jim Jarmish guy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And he's asking DeWalt for help, and he's like, oh, I'll help you to kick him out of the door. Yes. And then he gets run over. It's a great puppet. You see, yeah, you see the little body in the street. I love seeing bodies in streets. There's a good thump, thump, as Axel drives over the corpse. Jim Jarmish guy really great.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I was thinking he kind of looks like Kiefer Sutherland a little bit. A little bit too, yeah. But he definitely has the more Jarmish high Kramer hair. I remember him in some, he's a, I got to look it up. He's like a gunman, the final gunman in some movie. I'm sure. But this is like, oh, FX. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Wow. FX2, maybe. Maybe. It was against Brian Ben Ben. That's all I remember. Those are both state tunes. Oh, you mean Brian Brown? Brian Brown.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Australia's Brian Brown. So yeah. So the chase is going and, uh-oh, he's teaboned by a car. And here's Steve McCatty as the secret service. Because I always forget, it's a weird.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He doesn't say secret service until later in the movie, but when he does, I was like, oh, yeah, it's that weird thing where the secret service is also responsible with, like, money shit like this for some reason. I think that's the main job. And then it's like, oh, and also the president. And also the president. That's what a weird.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Because money's more, money is the president, basically, right? Right. You know, that's the thing. That's America. That's what you protect. That's secret service for money. I think that they made in 94, Stephen McCaddy, out of Lance Hendrickson's genes,
Starting point is 00:21:37 just in case anything ever happened to Lance Hendrickson. Yep. And they told them not to smoke as much. And they bridged the DNA with a little Scott Glenn. To fill in all the holes of the sequence. It was FX2. It's the guy he kills with the clown. Oh, yes. The clown kill is something else. Henriksen DNA. It smells like tobacco.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah, they found it in tar, not amber. But he is, I mean, he's exactly, Lance Everson, but not. He's also looking so young in this movie. I think I saw him in something recently. He popped up in something. But in this, I thought he was Lance Hendrickson for a minute. Yeah, of course. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Better movie. Probably. Not to knock Steve McKeddy. He's one of Canada's greatest character actor. Yeah, the problem was is that he was fucking Hendrickson was too in demand. They needed to make a second one. They had to get another one in there. That's true.
Starting point is 00:22:30 What else are you going to do? Just not have Lance Hendrickson? He probably didn't, you know what? That was the thing. He did Millennium and that they took him out of movies for a little bit. Oh, sure. That was a problem right there. have the movie ecosystem be
Starting point is 00:22:41 Henrickson free while he's farting around on Fox TV. Hollywood just had a secret meeting and they're just like what do we do if Lance is on television for five years the fuck are we going to do and they open there's like a back to tank with like a naked Stephen McHaddy it's like we have a solution
Starting point is 00:22:57 if we don't do something to direct a DVD horror market is going to collapse we do this with actresses all the time this is one of the first times we've done it with an actor of the band we replace them all the time but so yeah the inspector is dead McCatty is like hey
Starting point is 00:23:15 back off here this is a fed thing which that's only fanning the flames for Axel Foley of course we get the funeral he's showing up to the and like here's the thing is like Axel you have to show up to this funeral but dude you fucking caused this funeral to be scheduled
Starting point is 00:23:31 you are the killer is showing up to the funeral as far as I'm and I'm sure it's supposed to be his buddy Bruce. But if Al Green is at the funeral, people are remembering Al Green at the funeral, not Inspector Todd. Yeah. It's also kind of great. Is he, is you
Starting point is 00:23:49 wearing as soon as you wear that lion's jacket? I can't remember now. To the funeral? Yeah. I believe he's got a, he's got a I think there's a leather jacket on. Okay. A black leather jacket, yeah. No logo's on. Just wear that letterman jacket in the funeral for varsity. If not, how do they know
Starting point is 00:24:05 it's Axel Foley? Oh, excuse me, ma'am, it still has your husband's blood on it. I got a tux with a lion's emblem right here. That's the greatest part. So he goes up to the widow Todd and she's like, I heard you with my George when he died. And he's like, well, yes, I was, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And his last thoughts were with you. She's like, that doesn't sound like him. And he's like, well, actually, he said, Axel, you want a coffee break? You got to catch that son of a bitch. And I would still, like, even if she said it the first I would, no, ma'am, he really did. He was, he was weeping. He was just like, yep.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Like, I would really push it. Actually, he told me that. He loves me when he does. His last thoughts were of me. His last words were actually, Axel, you're responsible for this. Avenge me. Essentially is what he said. This could have been like an Uncle Ben moment.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I mean, I think it, I mean, I felt, I found that pretty touching when he's like, hey, man, hey. Oh, yeah, no, Murphy does some good acting there when when the detector dies. Which like, I look, I mean, if that was the, if people really did watch this and we're like, hey, he's got. dramatic chops yeah i think i i love that dream girl's performance i he's great in that incredible he's great how long it took to get that right finally because well like after this what we were talking about both does well then there's nutty professor well that's saying his career because he was a fucking tailspin that and then and then he got the the bug to do kids movies because dr. doolittle was like 98 oh and that was massive that's how you print money
Starting point is 00:25:31 at wonder world don't show the early 90s it was like distinguished gentleman boomerang like Oh, my God, after bob. Those are rough. I remember Boomerang. I watched that a few times as a kid. I was like, Oh, Distinguished gentleman's the one
Starting point is 00:25:44 where he's like a con man who goes to Congress or something. I don't think I ever saw that one. That one, you should, nobody needs to see that one. The Boomerang one at least has the classic line, man, the fat boys break up now with this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:58 No, boomerang's a totally watchable movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, he was in like dire straits. And then it's like this. And that's like, and also sucked him, didn't do terribly well. Well, and then this was like we're going back to the well to fix the these issues, but you hire a murderer to direct.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I think that is really the problem here, is getting a murderer back into the director's chair. I think you should do that as less as possible. It curses the production. It really does. There's some bad energy going around. Any stuntmen killed in this movie? I didn't read any of that. Oh, I did not see.
Starting point is 00:26:30 No, I don't know. No, yeah. Oh, well, yeah, we did have a character that was supposed to play Greg Altman. and that was that was scratched out at the last minute we didn't want him there nothing happened nothing happened we had Greg Allman there and we thought he was an interesting character so you know go get that son of a bitch cut to Beverly Hills did anybody watch this with the subtitles on I did not so I think I did every single time the theme song hits the very same yeah that's how it goes
Starting point is 00:27:03 Bo-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B. But it's like the symphonic remix of... Oh, yes. Because what's his name, didn't come back to do the score? Yeah, oh, fuck, I forgot his name. He's great. But... Holt, I want to say Holt-Meyer?
Starting point is 00:27:19 No, that's not wrong. Donald Holt-Meyer? Fault line. That guy did the score for it, but the actual, the tune, Axel F, was written by Nile Rogers and Richard Hilton, and this subtitle track doesn't let you. you forget it because every time the theme hits, the subtitles go
Starting point is 00:27:37 now playing Nile Rogers and Richard Hilton's Axel F every single time. Oh, so that's why the movie's called. So wait, did you stream it or did you... I watched it on Paramount Plus. Oh, okay, so maybe it's different then because my 4K that I ordered didn't come yet because I have the other
Starting point is 00:27:53 two on 4K. I have the Blu-ray, the three-pack on the Blu-ray, and that didn't have Nile Rogers. It did have Axel F. It didn't have... Oh, so it just said Axel F. Yeah, this was the whole credit. amount stream of it was bad there was like the color was kind of not corrected dude that was happening to me and I had to like stop it I would stop the video and restart it and then it would be totally fine but that happened twice because I missed a couple of things and I backed up the file or if I paused it and then when I would play it again the yeah the color was like I'm yeah like it would go
Starting point is 00:28:24 green for a second and I just watched the whole like well it's just green once in a while I mean it's I don't do this is lovingly restored yeah we need that that delicate 4K to come out. I think that's why my 4K didn't get delivered. It doesn't actually exist. They're like, yeah, it'll be here. Oh, does it? Supposedly it exists. I still, I, dude, I ordered it. And then it, like, the day it was supposed to come, like, totally fine Amazon Prime delivery. They were like, oh, it's delayed. And I'm like, yes, it. It's not done being made yet. They found the new cut that Ryan Swen did. Uh, who? It's, I was making a black hat joke. Oh, sorry. They delayed a, the, uh, the, uh, 4K release. Oh, right. Uh, Ryan Swen, who, uh, uh, Ryan Swen, who
Starting point is 00:29:03 did the Megshift director's cut brought in all the extra and rearranged it the way Michael Mann wanted it. They finally found like a good cut of it and like so the thing was delayed
Starting point is 00:29:14 happened. Oh so they could put that cut on the disc oh I see. Because originally it was not going to contain it. I still need to watch that version. I can't wait. It's so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:29:23 It's so goddamn good. But yeah, we mentioned it. He's contending with this information box. He finally just gets out of the car and walks in and you're like... The information talks look at it's English Spanish.
Starting point is 00:29:34 One joke is if there's a homeless person on your law and press 15. That's like Beverly Hill. That's a Beverly Hill. But English Spanish, oh, this is woke. Exactly. It is. Yeah, exactly. What the fuck. You got a woke, woke, robot here. You don't tell me what to do.
Starting point is 00:29:49 He put some number in the, woke bot, that's pretty good. He puts some number in and it's like, it starts like speaking Japanese or something. Or French. Oh, it's French. Yeah, you're right, right, right. So we go in, and here we go. Billy, I almost call him Tackleberry. What's his fucking?
Starting point is 00:30:02 and last name. Rosewood. Rosewood, yes, of course. Here he is in all his glory and this promotional thing. I love Judge Reinhold explaining to him like what the job is and like the green lines around Beverly Hill. It reminded me of the Malaney bit.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yes, yes. Everybody's in L.A. Yes, exactly. Neighborhoods. Yeah, the neighborhood map of Los Angeles and how it doesn't make any sense. So he does the same thing, but with jurisdictions. And his job title is the D-D-O-J-S-I-O-C. And credit to Reinhold for.
Starting point is 00:30:32 We're saying it super fast every time he has to say it in this movie. I like this bit. I kind of wish it came to anything. It doesn't. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's all about the green lines above. A, we never really understand where Wonderworld is.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It's in Los Angeles proper. That's all we know. It's got a special like blinker on his thing. I don't know why that is necessarily. All I can think about when you see the blinker is that Great Simpson's joke when it's like something, Homer does something. And then you hear the lights going off and Lenny goes, there goes Albany
Starting point is 00:31:03 they do pay it off but it's in the worst possible it just doesn't work he uses it the one time when he biffs the truck they find the truck he's over-informed every department and he's got the headset and he's just like
Starting point is 00:31:17 which even so that happens in the middle of the movie so at the end of the movie he should use all of his powers for the right thing and have it actually succeed but hey but about an empty joke an empty joke is also a good way
Starting point is 00:31:30 to watch that is also So a good way. Oh, a joke that goes nowhere. Yes. Yeah, I like that. A way to do it. That is a John Landis special, in fact. Oh, is it not funny?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Could it not be funny to? I got a Judge Reinhold recommendation for everyone. Oh, dude. You went on a judge kick. Well, a little bit. Not too much. Well, what I was really on a kick on was this Cracker Jack movie series. It's a movie series called Cracker Jack.
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's about this detective, Jack Wild. Oh, my God. Yes. And he's a little. It's not named Cracker Jack? Well, he's Jack. Jack, Cracker Jack. Like that's not
Starting point is 00:32:03 Anyway, the first movie, it's fucking Terry Silver from Karate Kid 3. Oh, sure. Okay. Plays. Cracker Jack? Yes. And Cracker Jack too, as Judge Reinhold replaces him. That feels like it should have been, the Reinhold was in the first one and he got swapped out. It's not. I think there's a third one and I think
Starting point is 00:32:22 it's like Bo Svensman or something. Insanely different. Bo Sventson will replace your action hero. In Cracker Jack too, Chris. Okay. We get Judge Reinhold in his underwear. Nice. Tidy Whitties or Boxer Briefs? What year are we talking about? It's 90s. 80s? It's 90s.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Oats, my God. I believe it's early 90s. I'll double check in a second. But he fights a guy in his underwear. Wow. And the guy gets killed via his personal computer. I think the guy like accidentally stabs the monitor or something and he gets like electrocuted and then he's got some quip. I forgot what it
Starting point is 00:32:55 was. Maybe it's like log off. Time to log off. Yeah. That's not bad. But it's like Judge Reinhold is the worst person at delivering these lines and he adds this it's so it's so it's he's supposed to be tough he's supposed to be tough that's no thank you he's dressed like and I had to look it up and I think it was
Starting point is 00:33:11 last action hero was first but he's dressed like Jack Slater oh wow red t-shirt leather jacket jeans yeah the light wash jeans in this fight do we get any Eastern promises slip of the cloth there or no my taint
Starting point is 00:33:27 I would have been great I would have loved to see his fucking hog Time to blow the weenie whistle. His Russian prison tattoos. His movies where he's the lead are always like, we've covered, what, at least one of them offbeat. Offbeat. And then what's that, the Nicholas Cage, New Orleans erotic thriller? Oh, Zandle.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Zandle. Those are both times when he was, like, he himself was trying to be serious at the time. It's just, no, thank you. He was a drippy doof. Yeah, yeah, no thanks, man. And he was, and he's great at that. Yeah, of course he is. Not the undercut Judge Reinhold, the dudes a legend.
Starting point is 00:34:00 But not in the zondolina. He carries that vice versa. He does. He actually, that's a fine performance of it. And it's a state, too. 97 is Cracker Jack, too. Wow, 97's late for Cracker Jack. Yeah, post Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Looks like it was also called hostage train. That's a good, better title. Ooh, that's good. That's a nice poster. These fellas are laughing at the poster for hostage christers. It looks like the poster for Leslie Nielsen's wrongfully accused. It does. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:34:30 If there was a movie where Judge Reinhold played an actor that was a hot shot action hero, that would be behind him and he'd be wearing a hat that said hostage train. And it would be like, oh man, get off my set. I'm the guy from hostage train or whatever. Or it'd be like he's remembering like, oh, the good old days. Like when I was filming hostage train before my career really derailed. I think I always...
Starting point is 00:34:55 Is it a train full of hostages or is it hostage turned into a train? They're stealing the trade It's the hostage It's not a Kronenberg movie I'm turning into a train I'm turning into a train And someone's kidnapping me at the same time Immediately
Starting point is 00:35:09 Please stop this David Kronenberg's hostage trade I would love that This hurts so much Oh yeah you thought the car crashes are bad Huh? Oh yeah You want to you want to test me motherfucker guys got a gun news
Starting point is 00:35:24 Make the noises Chuggin chugging Check it chugging check it chagin chagin chagin chagin I think I always thought this one came out later because I put it in a very similar spot as Metro. Oh, right. I think Metro is 97 speaking of a hostage train. Metro, I kind of think Metro's a better movie
Starting point is 00:35:45 because at least the director knows he's trying to be serious that one. And it's like, okay, let's be serious. And then they have, what's his name? The crow villain. Oh, God, if my goodness. He's so good. He was a no, Michael. Michael Wincott.
Starting point is 00:35:57 from Nope who's fantastic a Nope Yeah Yeah Yes That was like That's genuinely like Dark little cop drama
Starting point is 00:36:05 With some funny lines in it But like That is a better example Of what he was trying to do Yeah And that movie got spanned All the way Every which way
Starting point is 00:36:14 And this movie I feel like They kind of gave a soft okay to Because it's like Yeah It's kind of panned I did okay I think it did Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:20 So he meets He meets up with Billy Rosewood He explains Billy's new job It explains that Taggart's retired Yes and here comes Hector Elisando, hi. And he's like, oh, Ellis,
Starting point is 00:36:31 are you going to Wonderworld? I know who runs security there. He's a great guy. I'll take you there. I just have to do something first. Wait. Wait. Wait.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And then he just shows up and starts shooting people, basically. He's like, I'll get you an appointment with him. He's like, okay, cool. And he just goes and he's like, oh, I have an appointment with Ellis DeWald. Like, no, you don't. You have to buy a ticket, $35, which I looked up is $75 in today's. Which that's still. way cheaper than what it costs
Starting point is 00:36:59 to get at Disney World these days. It's over a buck. It's over a hundred dollars. Big time. And that's for like the base like yes. You got to pay to use the bathroom pass probably. But this is like the only this is all left of like Axel Foley who comes from like dirt beginning. Yes exactly. Like this
Starting point is 00:37:15 is and it just doesn't feel any Murphy at this level. Yeah like it just doesn't feel right. Some good like he not a great performance but some of his yelling is really great. He's like 35 dollars is great. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes me wonder, though, like, this is the third time. It should have been, like, after the second movie, he just moves there.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yes. That would have, like, sort of completed the transformation into the titular Beverly Hills cop. And maybe then we could have gone to England because then he's still Beverly Hills cop. Well, all if it's David Cornerberg and he's a cop turning into Beverly Hills. Ooh, this hurts so much. Well, the oceans are all fucked up now. I don't know what you want. My butt's becoming someone's pool in backyard. Why?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Oh, my taint is turning into West Beverly High. No. Well, yeah, the tides are all fucked up. The sun's coming up too soon. Oh, boy. Okay. We're all done. But yes, this is, someone sees, I think Axel sees a picture or whatever, and here's
Starting point is 00:38:15 Uncle Dave, and this is the Walt Disney surrogate for this thing. This is a real, like, I get it, but also, like, is everyone paying attention? I feel like Wally World did this better in the vacation. Yeah. Like, you got it that it was, like, kind of a Walt Disney thing, but he was clearly like his own fella, too. This is just like a one-to-one
Starting point is 00:38:33 this is supposed to be Walt. Also, the symbolism of vacation just makes more sense. You go there and the place is empty, and nobody's... No, I just mean, like, the guy. Sure. Whatever is fucking... Oh, I don't even remember.
Starting point is 00:38:42 But similarly, also, like, this was filmed at, like, whatever, great, great adventure, kind of, or great... The Great Escape? Great Escape, which isn't like... No, the Great Escape is in Upstate New York. It's a great something.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Part of it's from Knott's Berry Farm, and part of it was a those mysterious paramount parks which were all over the country that I've never been to. I think it was one. I think they filmed in one of those. None of those are in Los Angeles proper. No. Like Disney land is in like
Starting point is 00:39:09 Anaheim. Like you gotta get the fuck out. This seems like in the middle of L.A. There is an enormous theme park. That's insane. That would be weird. It's like if like the Staples Center didn't, and that's just where it was just downtown or some shit. Yeah, it's very, it does. Yeah. Because they never take too long. They never mention
Starting point is 00:39:25 like the traffic to get. get out to the park or whatever, yeah. But so he's, he does buy a ticket, he goes in, and he immediately kind of like, he sees Uncle Dave and he sneaks into like a backstage pass where he meets a backstage area where he meets Teresa Randall. Hell yeah. Where she's about to run alien attack.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Oh my God, this fucking thing, which is just Battlestar Galatica. I'm surprised it ensue. I mean, I guess it's a loving tribute kind of a thing. I mean, who owned Battlestar? Was it Paramount? Yeah, but if so, you're covered. And it's also 95.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Nobody gave a shit about Battlestar Galactic. That's true. And now is like, and this is, I think, part of a pre-existing. The earthquake ride. The earthquake ride. So I, because of this, I was like, oh, did they create this for the movie? And then I read that trivia because I'm like, how did they spend over $70 million making this? No, this, I've been on this ride before.
Starting point is 00:40:17 If you remove the sylons from it, it's exactly that. Oh, wow. The ceiling falls down just like that. The train derails just like that. The water comes down. the staircase by you. They're literally just on that ride. In Universal Florida, it's very similar. The King Kong thing.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's like that where fire is coming near you. The Kong one was really cool too. Yeah. But it's incredible that Los Angeles has this earthquake ride. It's in Disneyland, yeah. Can you believe that? That's like if New York had a theme park, here you hear, do the 9-11 ride. This is some shit that went down here. The big one from 87. Here's our new ride. Escape the
Starting point is 00:40:52 Tower. Yes, exactly. Uh-oh, here comes all the smoke. Don't breathe it 100 flights get running it is kind of that James Duhan Star Cruise thing whatever the fuck it was whatever it was when you went to the top of the Star Tours? Was it Star Wars? No. That's Star Wars
Starting point is 00:41:08 This is this is something I know what you're talking about it's like James Duhan introducing like a ride around New York City at the top of the Empire. Oh really? If you went to the top of the Empire State Building you could get in one of those hydraulic things where it's like a minivan inside basically the same thing that like the Back to the Future two ride was
Starting point is 00:41:24 and the Star Wars ride at the old MGM Park You just get in a car and it's got a scream. There's James Duhan being like, you might remember me as Scotty. Now we're going to go on this trip around. And you just, you know, they had like a helicopter. He's doing the accent, I think, too, right? I think he might be actually now that I think about it.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I think he, oh shit, is he supposed to be Scotty? That's really sad. You can find the video for it on YouTube because that, the back of the future ride. People have uploaded that video. I only ever saw it on YouTube. But you did, you fucking flew downtown. Dude, you went around them towers.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I had that is famous. Heroin Spot Needle Park right there. Look down at it. All its pokey glory. But so he runs into Teresa Randall's, they're flirting and in there flirting. She's like, hey, look at this alien attack thing. It's like, that'll come in handy later. You know, kind of, you know, kind of a big old bookmark. Hi, there, a stranger who is weird and aggressive. Breaking in.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He's investigating by just walking around the park and going in back areas. Just like, I'm going to nose around. I'm like, that's not really a detective. No, it's not at all, right? No, and he, what does he say to her? Like, oh, I'm here for some, like, meeting. I think he says, like, I'm here to meet Mr. DeWald or something. So I'm just walking around all these control rooms or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:37 You can't have a character named DeWaltz. It's too close to Walt. Yeah. It's like they started at Walt and they went back maybe DeWalt. DeWalt, that's different enough. Perfect. That's done. Because isn't DeWalt, don't they make, like, power tools and shit?
Starting point is 00:42:53 DeWalt does, yeah, yeah, with a tool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so he watches the ride go down. Yeah, it's literally just the earthquake ride with some robots shooting cheap lasers. I got to say, for the fact that Ellis DeWald gets security business of the year award guy recognition later in the movie,
Starting point is 00:43:13 this is one of the most inept security teams of all time, one of the most unprofessional group of idiots. They see him in this hallway. Now, this hallway, it's not just secret villain tunnel. It's like the cast, you know, characters, it's like an employee backstage things. Someone's smoking a cigarette you know what I mean, like before they go back to
Starting point is 00:43:30 doing whatever. And these dudes, the second they see him, just open fire in this hallway and I was like, what are any of you do? Mr. DeWald is going to be so disappointed. I mean, it gets even worse. But yeah, so they're firing. He like, he shoots to people, he doesn't get anybody, but he knocks the guy out.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You could have just arrested him, kicked him out, acted like he was crazy, but you started shooting guns at him. Yep. And then it's also like, you could shoot one of your Elmo fellas or something. Yeah, it's an active fucking workplace, man. Ogik Dokey got shot in the head. You might shoot the air conditioning vent. You know, there's going to be ramifications.
Starting point is 00:44:02 When does, is this when he does the big moment with the spider ride? Yes, because he runs out away from these dudes and he runs right on like the start of the spider ride. And Duwold's like, get him. So all of his dudes, like including his main number two guy, this guy with like Adam West haircut, is like he jumps on a ride to evade them, which is kind of a big spinner guy. With a bunch of little cards. Well, first he interrupts. He cuts some people in line to get on there.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Oh, I'm so sorry, yes. And none other than George Lucas. Hey! Oh, Ruth Brennett, right? And of course, this is like Landis' thing, right? He loves putting directors in little roles like Spielberg's at the end of the Blues Brothers, etc. Like that kind of stuff. There's a metric, fuck ton of people in this movie.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I spotted Joe Dante was one I spot. Ray Harry Housen. It's got to be a real. Barbay Schroeder at the end. He's the guy when he steals the car when he's pretending to be the valet that's Barbay Schroeder. That's hilarious. Peter Medek is the guy that says
Starting point is 00:45:00 there's a black guy that shot Uncle Dave. And like Peter Meadegh is like, this is my line, really? This is what we're doing? Barbe gets to have his cool sports cars stolen without any fucking racial shit in it. Got it, okay. I'm not going to say,
Starting point is 00:45:14 hey, black guy, don't cut me in line. That doesn't make any sense, John. And this is the third script revision. I mean, before it was a bunch of slurs, John. I mean, what are you doing? First, you murdered Vic, and now you're murdering this move. It is kind of a thing where, like, you're calling all you. Do I have to, John?
Starting point is 00:45:29 Do I have to work with you? No, we're buddies, we're pals. Yeah, no, you are the best. But I do, I do, yeah, I know. I can kill Vic Morrow, though. No, we've talked. Of course we've talked. We've had to have talked in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I don't believe that. Oh, I'm positive. Oh, if I didn't send you a Christmas card, I'm going to kick myself. I just can't believe it. No, yeah, I'll be in Beverly Hills Cop three. I would never sell Star Wars to Wonder, unless we're a four billion dollars. Four billion wonder, burks. That's just, you know what, let me talk to my secretary.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Barbara? Barbara, did you not send John Landis a birthday card? Barbara. Oh, she did. You know what? That was the problem right there. It's Barbara. You know, sometimes she loses it.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I am firing her. He also has, because it's like, hey, which is a terrible delivery. But then, like, the dude, like, lets, the guy. running the ride gives like a woolsorey like kind of shoulder shrugged. Lucas's other line, come on, let's go. So terrible. Why would you leave line?
Starting point is 00:46:33 You just waited forever to get on this thing. Wait for the next one, yeah. And then what was his line? Axel Foley was like, oh, I'm doing maintenance. Yeah, there's a dry chain. You hear that sound with the dry gears or I got an oil, whatever. I'm doing, I'm doing improv with Annie Murphy. This is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yes, and, Eddie. Uh-huh. Yes, and there might be a sarlac pit underneath you. Oh, if you fall off the little ride, you might fall into a sarlac pit. Can I wear the gorilla suit? Can I put it on for a little bit? I would just love to do that. John, you may be a murderer, but this is fun.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And so, like, yeah, he gets on the ride or whatever. And then again, this guy just starts, get that guy down now. And the guy's like, the guy running the ride is like, I can't do that. I have to wait for the whole ride. He goes, no, and he starts grabbing it shit. Just grabbing pulling levers and pushing buttons. This is how the Twilight Zone nightmare happened. It looks like he's about to stab it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Like, he's just like he breaks it immediately. All this screwdriver should do the trick. And, I mean, again, like, you know, Disney World has that famous thing where nobody ever died in Disney World where people, you know, there's many. Reportedly, you know, they did. But the stories, they dragged them out. Yes, exactly. Oh, my God. And that's not happening at Wonder World.
Starting point is 00:47:49 They're like, no, you will die at Wonder World. I don't know how you bounce back from all in one day. Yes. You have a suspected shootout in your fucking coffee break room. Yep. And then you have a fucking ride almost killed two kids in front of fucking dozens of people.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Well, Teresa Rand is like, ooh, code red. There's two kids hanging for their lives. Yeah, that seems to be a code red. That's pretty, yeah. Well, it's like, you know, fucking Wonderworld, man. It's the goddamn action park of the West Coast. I guess so. That's happening. 20 minutes ago, I was just walking around
Starting point is 00:48:20 the little, you know, chipmunk park or whatever, and I heard gunshots from beneath me, distinctly gunshots, and now my kids are hanged for their life. George Lucas can't even get a fucking riot here. What is going on here today? Within two days, there's going to be another gun incident in the middle of the park where the same man who saved the kids
Starting point is 00:48:40 is shooting into the air. Let's just say at the end of this movie, when we have our Star Wars medal ceremony for all our heroes, there would be zero attendance in that park. Close for business, Uncle Dave. Oh, shootout park? No thanks. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And also, like, not to mention that 70 men were killed the night before. Yes. Big massacre. Well, you know what? Maybe the tickets are $15 now. Yeah, it's true. We're pivoting to movies now. We're just doing it.
Starting point is 00:49:05 We're going to just put out movies. But also, this sequence doesn't fit in this movie, this long hero moment where... No. It's just not what Axel fully does, right? None of it's funny. There's no real funny moments in it. He's not a stunt guy. No, exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Like, it's a little weird. I mean, I guess it is just him trying to beef up his bonafides. Like, this is, I can do this. If you want me to do this, I can do this stuff. When the carriage is falling and he has to jump down the last second, it's kind of a cool little moment. It's exciting, but it's just also like, it just doesn't
Starting point is 00:49:33 fit the movie. It does. No, it just feels like it was like, we have to have something happen here because usually what you would have is like, and I think this is why it doesn't work like the other two. He had to go like throughout Los Angeles to different like stores, office buildings, places of note. And like,
Starting point is 00:49:50 It gave you a sense of the city. It gave you it like he was traveling through that. It's just this location essentially. And he keeps on coming back here, other than I guess the bar where they say a black man shot Uncle Dave. Well, I mean, the other place. Get ready for this Axelaf, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I bet you it's way where it's because I bet you the whole fucking things filmed in Atlanta. You know, although that was the thing I'll say. I liked this new bad boys movie quite a bit more than I anticipated. I thought it was a really fun time. What's it better than the last one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I think, I mean, yes part two is directed by bay and it's bigger and whatever this fourth one might be my second favorite bad boys movie because I've never been crazy about two this four ends way better than two does let me just say that that's yeah but I think Gabriel Union really makes me like two more that's true she is great and why I brought that up was because like Miami is supposed to be such a character in these movies and this fucking four it's just Atlanta all over the place so I wouldn't be surprised if that happens but it has a super villain which I really do a
Starting point is 00:50:48 A supervillain in an alligator layer. Yep. It's great. They have to replace the witch somehow. Okay. Yeah. You got to go bigger. There's a Bond villain hide out.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Ditch the witch. That's, I've been saying it for years. So he saves two children from certain death that is caused by the security team. Right. And immediately he is arrested and brought back down to the layer. And welcome to the movie, Mr. John Sanks. Hell yeah. This plot.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Love him. Eric, as an expert, I need you to yay or nay this. Uh-huh. A A low-rent theme park in California is secretly printing counterfeit money.
Starting point is 00:51:26 This is a T.J. Hooker plot, right? Oh, this is a thousand percent of T.J. Hooker plots. It wouldn't, it would be a carnival because it would be too expensive to do it at the actual park. Sure. But that's it. This is a T.J. Hooker pot.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Absolutely, yeah. Shatner would wrestle a greased-up pig because it's at a state fair. That pig has evidence. They're feeding dollar bills to the pigs. And then Romano's off screen, you know, Adrian Zamed, but he's going I can't tell them apart, which is T.J.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Which is the feral pig? They're both fat pigs covered in mud. Exactly. Do you think that the, we'll get to Saxon, I don't want to back up any further, but do you think because one of the biggest problems with that spider ride scene is there's really no
Starting point is 00:52:09 comedy in it? Yeah. It would be better if they weren't kids and he's got to save like a couple of nerds or just like grown adults. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Get like booger in there. You got to save booger from falling off the rise. Maybe a, maybe a what do you call there, Bruce McCulloch is in there and he's like, or Bobcat Goldthwaite
Starting point is 00:52:25 maybe. You just have to make it, you just have to make it funner to like, do that theme song again. Do like we're jumping around. It feels more suspenseful. Yes, exactly. Oh my God, he's going to get the kids. I don't know. I don't know. I don't give a shit about kids. Fuck this. This Hill's Cup 3. He should be cursing and shooting people. Yeah. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:41 So yeah, Orrin Sanderson is his name, which is great. And it's like so John Saxon if Ellis DeWald is like head of security he's like the lieutenant of the security team he's higher up than he's like Uncle Dave's number two I think
Starting point is 00:52:56 I do park ops or something chief of operations yeah yeah I oversee the security but also if you got a problem with the concession stand baby you know Nicole oh no another okey dokey overdosed got to move him out of the park he's a cleaner that's one of this
Starting point is 00:53:15 He's fucking Uncle Dave's lone wolf. That's what it is. Oh, no, there's a nacho spill. I have to go take care of this cheese. Well, yes, I am packing. Of course I am. Absolutely. Yes, of course I do have an oozy on me.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I get rid of the dead prostitutes and the spilled nacho cheese. They're all in the happy forest now. Did you say that you were the parks cleaner or that you were any good at it? Michael Clayton for you, ladies and gentlemen. So this begins like the gaslighting. of, yeah, this is what the security team does. It's like, oh, Janice, Teresa Randall's character, why don't you
Starting point is 00:53:50 come in with the security tape? And it is just the most... I mean, this is not holding up in court. Totally. This is Dr. Mr. Simpson, no! Like, it's so faint. It's like, look, this is Axel Foley walking in the hallway. Huge tracking moment. And now he's firing. What is that? See, there's nothing
Starting point is 00:54:06 happened there. Now I've got to go put some Ajax on some kids vomit. It is a healthy like 10 seconds of like white noise And she's like, it's tape tracking. And you're like, oh, man. Some fat guy from Arkansas lost his wallet beside the goddamn Ferris wheel.
Starting point is 00:54:23 We have to shut it down, get three guys in there to find this fat guy's wallet. Exactly. I just love this. Also, it's just like you were just shooting blindly down one of our hallways. See nothing happens. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:54:35 And I'm not corrupt, I want to say. I want you to know that I'm not part of the villains. And they're like, all right, here's Ellis Duwold and Dun, Dun, Dun, Denswold is exactly the guy that Alex Will is looking for. he lunges at him. Yep. And again, he wouldn't be on to you
Starting point is 00:54:48 as hard. If one, you didn't bring merch from home. And also, Ellis Dwald, you did go on the fucking hit in the first place. Saxon didn't go on the hit. Saxon's like, I'm staying here, baby. Seems like it's a bad decision, Ellis. But again, I
Starting point is 00:55:04 can't do anything about it. I got to go cut up some pickled jalapinos at the concession stand. You know Maria cold and sick. Again. I'm working a double here, kid. You go ahead and deal with the murders. I'm going to stay here and deal with the touchy Rufus Rabbit. Oh, and a little boy drowned over an animal land.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Got to deal with that as quietly as possible. I got to drag him out to the ocean, said he went to the fucking beach. Oh, no, a shark ate him. Dude, John Sachs in amusement park, lone wolf. I would fucking love that. It's the movie I want. The park cleaner. That's what you'd call it, I feel.
Starting point is 00:55:42 But yeah, so he's like, I think. Elizondo basically, like, calms him down. He's like, listen, you know, he's a friend of mine. I don't know what's going on here. Let me take Axel out of here and we'll move on. And like, you know, basically now Axel's trying to convince. And this is a scene that is in other Beverly Hills Cop movies that is much better, the bar scene. Like, it's just, I don't even know what bar they're at.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It's got no vibe to it. No, no, no. Hawaii Tiki. Here's the thing because, so here's my fucking recent descent into Tiki madness. is Disneyland has a very famous teaky bar in it. And I think the joke here, because it is a teaky bar they're at, isish enough. And I think the joke is because Judge Reinhold gets a blue Hawaiian and she's like,
Starting point is 00:56:26 oh, here, Mr. Rosewood, here's your regular or your usual. And I think the joke is like, he's there all the time getting this thing in an amusement park bar. But then I need Eddie Murphy to be like, what is, you know, what is this? Why am I supposed to drink this? Like the scene in Zodiac. Exactly. about a glue drink. And then it becomes a fun moment.
Starting point is 00:56:45 What's the daddy line is like, what you're drinking needs to be discussed. It's just like, something like that. This needs to be discussed. Yes, that's what it is. But yeah, it is, because it is a staple of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:57:00 We get to the bar and I convince you to do the thing with me. Sure. But it's just like, this is just showing the tiredness of the franchise. Tiredness of Eddie Murphy's just like, let's just talk about the plot.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Let's just get the plot. Like, what are we going to do next? And that's it. I'm going to look at your blue drink for a minute. I mean, the joke they do is Judge Reinhold being. Thanks, Lisa. Yeah. Yeah, no, I eat hamburgers here on a regular basis, and I have no family.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I wanted to pause it and make myself a blue one. They are delicious. But, yeah, so it's like, what is happening next? Oh, Ellis DeWald happens to be getting an award tonight. And I have an extra ticket to you want, you know, you're going to take me. And it's like, okay, that's, he goes to his hotel. the Sunset Motel, and this is Freeze, motherfucker! And he pulls
Starting point is 00:57:45 a gun on Uncle Dave. It's very funny. This little old man in his hotel room. Hi, I didn't piss myself because I'm on uppers. This is Alan Young, who does the voice of Scrooge McDuck, amongst other things. I learned that just yesterday, like, having seen this a bunch of times,
Starting point is 00:58:01 and I never once was like this dude's, like Uncle Dave's voice sounds like Scrooge McDuck, like he was a very talented voice actor. I always thought Scrooge McDuck was a guy, like a real person. I grew up believing that. He's the other Coke brother. Yeah, David, John.
Starting point is 00:58:19 The one who built the Wild West Park for himself, that one. Oh, there's a one of them built a Wild West Park for themselves? So there's the two evil ones everyone knows. Right. But then their rival is Pepsi, of course. Sure. No, they had a third brother who was like, he's just like, I don't want to be evil. Just give me my money.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And I'm going to build a Wild West town for myself. Nice. That's nice. out in the middle of nowhere. You know what? Good for him. Yeah, don't bother anybody. That's great. You don't have to influence the world malevolently. You can just spend your money and just, you know, get blown every day in a wild
Starting point is 00:58:51 West feed. I mean, it's certainly better than those fucking demented Sprite brothers. Oh, God, those guys. Disgusting sons of bitches. They took out the seven ups. And they killed Dr. Pepper. That was that was a fridge too far. That was a state funeral for me. The assassination of Dr. Pepper.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah, that's, oh, my God. Mrs. Pepper just trying to get his brains out of him. Mr. Popcorn. crying butter. Mrs. Pepper was just so broken down to the funeral and then his secret lover Mr. Pib showed up and I got really weird. You shouldn't be here.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I told you not to come to this. There's a picture of Mr. Pib being sworn in on the plane. Dr. Pepper told him to get those sons of bitches that did this too. Oh, I enjoy that. But so a thing that comes to nothing is, oh, Uncle Dave is telling all about the park designer Roger Frank
Starting point is 00:59:43 that has gone missing after sending this note like meet me life and death gotta talk to you whatever it is it's Uncle Dave and Teresa Randall and Teresa Randall is like can I be in the movie I'm sexy and I could be his girlfriend or something or love interest like not really we'll kidnap you a couple times but that's about it
Starting point is 01:00:00 oh you could do old manhandler you could bring Uncle Dave to the motel can you push a wheelchair are you good at that because that's I mean like she's ready to be in the movie She's one of the people Who is game to be in this movie I said at the top that no one wanted to do this movie Theresa Randall definitely wanted to do this movie
Starting point is 01:00:16 You know him partnered with her running around this part That's something It would have been something absolutely Because she has like Why wouldn't you do that right? Like she's got the like insider knowledge Right They use it sometimes where it's like
Starting point is 01:00:28 Here's these blueprints But like partner them together I see that and that's probably what they should have done But like also if you are Eddie Murphy The one thing you have about this is that this is an Eddie Murphy movie and you're going to milk it for everything so like it would have been
Starting point is 01:00:43 I mean like the first I mean the first one when he's with the I forget her name the white lady that he's helping in the first one she's coming around with him to a lot of those things so they do do things like that before be a nice callback but like this whole thing I'm looking at the Robert Fry thing
Starting point is 01:01:00 that should have been the thing that brought him there from the beginning it should have been like it's a mystery there is a mystery there is a mystery of foot in fucking Wonderworld. Yeah, yeah. As opposed to see knowing it's Ellis DeWall the whole time it cuts everything out. It's also very funny that, you know, the reveal
Starting point is 01:01:16 at the end, no one actually really looked at this piece of paper. I mean, money feels differently. But actually, no, that's I think that's the thing that makes this most like a T.J. Hooker episode is you know who the villain is the entire time. You see him in the first scene doing the thing. It's like, what do you call there? Leo
Starting point is 01:01:32 at the beginning of his FBI episode. You shoot the guys down. It's like, we're going to catch him. You know what I mean? Like, that's what this is. It's also, Columbo rules. Also. Columbo, what's the other one that does that?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Perry Mason. And once upon a time in Hollywood, Leo's characters put stuff that says property of the U.S. government in a truck. It's true. Look at this. Lisa Islebacher was the lady from part one. She's, I believe, the, also, Bronson's daughter in 10 to midnight.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Oh, really? Yes. Oh, or the lady that Bronson, I don't remember if it's a dirter character or what, but the lady that Bronson is trying to save in that movie. She's going to Beverly Hills Cop. I liked that. Yeah, no, she was also in Leviathan. Been in some stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Anyway. So she, so, you know, basically it's like, now he's got this other mystery that kind of fits in with the mystery he's already got. We go to the policeman's ball or whatever the fuck. Which is also like a weird, like,
Starting point is 01:02:27 convention for cop private security. Like, yes. It's NAPSA, the National Association of Private Security agencies. Wow, good for you, dude. But this is what's funny about this is they fuck it up. The first time it's just the National Association of Security Agency's NASA, which would be funny.
Starting point is 01:02:45 But then when they get to the thing, like, there's clearly, like, someone put private with, like, a little arrow in the line. The edit, like, insert this later. It was verified. But, yes, there's a bunch of, there's armor, and of course, there is Bronson Pinchot. Awkwell! I can't believe it. Bring it on back. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:05 No, thank you. Really? Did Serge work for you in this? Surge has kind of always worked for me. And apparently he was doing all of his lines with John Landis that Eddie Murphy couldn't be bothered to come to set for these things. Well, that's the other like apocryble stuff you read about this movie is he was so depressed about the state of his career that he just couldn't get it up to do scenes for this movie.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I love that. Like, oh, God, it's so sad what happened in my career. What? Victims. What, my career is the victim here. Eddie was really game and they had them in a two-shot together. Playing off each other.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, exactly. We could have really had... Like they do in the first movie? But I just think it doesn't work here. Yeah. Well, it makes no... He used to be an art gallery, whatever. And now he's like, oh, I'm doing guns now.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It's just kind of weird. It's like a Ghostbusters, too. I used to do art preservation now of a violinist or vice versa or whatever. Right, right. Lewis Tully was an accountant and then he's a lawyer for no reason. Yeah, it's just, what are you home? Simpsons, stop changing your job. Well, that was just because Peter McNichael had a boner for her immediately.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And it was like, oh, of course you can come in. Yeah, yeah, you're high, I'm sure, yeah. Touch it top. And he's like, now it sort of unofficially makes him the cue of this franchise. Yeah, he's a gadget guy. You're totally right. He gives him a key ring that, like, will flash bright, which we'll use. And the big thing is the annihilator 2000, which is this big silly gun.
Starting point is 01:04:32 That's got like a boom box in it and a fucking radio. television. And then we get the whole stuff about like, oh yeah, Sly. Slice got 14 of these. Oh, that's because like Axel's like, who is going to buy one of these? And he's like, they're on back order. Yeah, all these people in like Beverly Hills are buying them up.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Zsa Gabor has one. Dude, you know you are firmly still like in the early 90s with like Jaja Gabor pop culture references. Oh my God. I remember the sun setting on that. And then we had no more Zaja Gabor jokes and references. Is it her or Ivanka?
Starting point is 01:05:06 Trump at the end of first wives club it's it's a vanka Trump because it's like here's the best way to get divorced ladies and take advantage of your ex-husband I definitely won't be buried in his golf course when I die in an unmarked pauper's grade
Starting point is 01:05:22 dude yeah that cameo was the highest point of her life I'll tell you that yikes dude well good poll I haven't thought about that in a while yeah so aquil you know whatever don't worry I'll definitely be back for this gun at some point, you know, one of those things. So then we go into the dinner and it's he's
Starting point is 01:05:42 getting this award. And it's, I do like Judge Reinhold in the full tuxedo. This I think is where he's wearing like the, it's a brown leather jacket with like black jeans on or whatever. So he's like kind of. He's dressed up. He's dressed up for Axel Foley. I mean, this is this is the, this is the familiar Judge Reinhold Eddie Murphy scenario, right? Him saying, please don't do this, So please don't do this. And Eddie Murphy comically yelling and making fun of people and getting himself into trouble. Ellis DeWold! Alice, come on, that's Ellis DeWald.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Bravo! It is so close to sexual chocolate. It really is. I mean, Eddie yelling was always very great. It's the best. It's always fun. One of the best. But, yeah, so, you know, Ellis gets this award.
Starting point is 01:06:28 John Saxon presents it to him. Here you go, baby. It was always for you, kid. And then, yeah, actually has a table, which also comes in, it was just like a little joke, but a table full of underprivileged kids that he's, like, working with the community or whatever. They're all wearing, like, turquoise suit jackets. And one day they're all going to become a Wally World security agents, you know? Which will also make them counterfeiters, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yes. This is like an ROTC. Yeah, totally. You can grow up to work at Wonderworld and be a trigger-happy murderer. What I don't get is how does this escalate to the point of him and just? being arrested. Now, Judge Reinhold is like a top cop of L.A. Yeah, yeah. Well, these are security guards. He outranks everyone in the room. It's true. Well, because, again, instead of going a comedy route, like, it's funny, him going to go,
Starting point is 01:07:15 Ellis DeWald. He's like, he gives this kind of mini speech about, I'm going to give him everything that he deserves. Right. Plus interest. And then, you know, there's a smirk. Duwold's like, what's the matter, Foley? Matt, I killed your boyfriend. Still right close to that microphone, by the way. Yeah. And then he just gets, then he just punches. as opposed to like something funny you're happening. Yeah, it's not very funny. It's just a fight. They go through a table like it's the
Starting point is 01:07:39 WWF, which is something. If there was ever a time to throw a cake at someone. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like this is a function. Absolutely. Get some of these stuff shirts. Get a dowage. You're like, oh, no. Totally. Exactly. But go full marks brothers. But yeah, so they are arrested and here's their
Starting point is 01:07:55 jailer, Joe Dante, which is very funny. Oh, that's fun. Oh, man. And it's, here's, McHaddy comes back in and it's this like, and so Joe Dante comes for Axel and it's like it's kind of a great judge Reinhold is let he's like no no no no just Axel and Reinhold's like still in jail but here's Stephen McHaddy like I asked you not to fuck with this investigation and you're still totally fucking me and then they made Joe Dante go back to the cell and lock himself in it man I mean you know he didn't do a lot
Starting point is 01:08:24 of movies after a while right yeah kind of I mean itered out yeah small soldiers of 98 and oh I forgot about small so the Looney Tunes movie is 2000. Oh, the less said the better. I think that's a pretty good movie. Really?
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah, I watch it for the first time a few years ago. Never saw it. Honestly, it's a good the one with De Niro? Rocky Bow Winkle? I'm thinking a Rocky Bowl.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yes, you are, which I was about to tell you guys the other day, that came back up on my feed for some reason. I was like, we have to do that movie. Rene Rousseau, Jason Alexander,
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'm getting so old now that I'm just like, oh yeah, the cartoon people. Yeah, they're the looney dudes. you see that cartoon that's probably a loony one every time we did X-Men 97 on The Great Too Olds this shit
Starting point is 01:09:08 We had to be like Eric no no this is the X-Men I was like on Winsbugs Bunny Showing up there's the Talking Duck No it's Brendan Fraser and Jenna Elthman And Martin, Steve Martin's the villain I do not think I've seen it actually It's a live action animated hybrid
Starting point is 01:09:25 That's I think totally entertaining I think it's like the second Like I can't think of another one that even, like, sniffes at Roger rabbits, like, Roger rabbits, clearly the number one. Coyote versus Zach. Oh, no, no, no one in a saw a coyote for Zach. It was written off as a tax break.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I actually heard that they do have some animated stuff in Backer. Oh, wait. Oh, not going to see that. You're going to start. You know, people don't know. We actually do a lot of other podcasts that we don't release. Those are tax breaks. Yes, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Yeah, we're going through the trouble of making all them podcasts just to cancel it for tax breaks. But if they can do it, why can't we? Well, true. Let's talk to our accountant about the Robocop 2 show. We can't release that. It was not recorded properly. If you can't release something, that means you get money for it, right? Ethan, Ethan, listen, we did a whole thing on General Hospital.
Starting point is 01:10:15 We covered all of it. But we got rid of it because we thought it would just be, you know, it would be better that way. Can't we get a break? I think we have to prove how we would benefit making more money destroying it than releasing. I see. I think is the idea. It made it so. worse when Will Forte was like
Starting point is 01:10:33 I got a chance to see it and it's great. I'm like don't fucking tell me then. Unless it's in an actual attempt to push them to release it. But I got to feel them hard drives are erased at this point. That movie's fucking gone anyway. But so they got arrested. There's a bad I think they call Elizondo
Starting point is 01:10:49 is their call and then like there's a don't drop this. Don't take any showers. Am I in this movie or what? I guess I am. You shouldn't be. Yeah, he gets the call to like bail them out or whatever. And then this is also the plane ticket. Yeah, the plane
Starting point is 01:11:04 ticket. First class courtesy of the U.S. federal government. I know this hasn't worked in all the other film, but I want you to be very sure that you get on this play. I love that that's always like, and I mean sure it's great like flying first class
Starting point is 01:11:21 but it's always a selling point in these things when a character wants to get someone else out of town, it's like, and I'll sweeten the deal by putting you in first class. That's never going to work. I always assume that's a condescending, you're from fucking Detroit. You better enjoy the fucking free champagne and orange
Starting point is 01:11:36 or whatever. The only time in your life you get this treatment, yeah, probably. But this is they figure out I don't know how it is they figure out, oh, the van, we found the van, it's at the, this is the big failed beach raid, Reinholds
Starting point is 01:11:52 coordinating with like 20 agencies, including like Baywatch people, which is very funny. It happens in the car, like basically they're All in the car, and we're driving axle to the airport or something, and it's like, oh, wait, they found the van. I just coordinated with 14 different agencies. We're going to swarm at it. Let me tell you and not show you that.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Exactly. Why can't you, can I get a shot of Donald Logue saying, this is an Invelohejo? Can I get something like that, please? Just come on. I got to tell you, man, if this movie, they wanted to be all serious about it, make it more of a, towards a zodiac vibe, I don't know. Oh, I would love. Yeah, how about Beverly Hills Coppies tracing a serial killer? Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:29 He's going out of Southern California now. The Zodiac was still active. Who knows? Yeah. But it's a, yeah, the failed van operation. It's empty. We do see, yeah, we see Judge Reinhold open it and it's empty. It's, it's anti-clagnetic. You got to have a joke in there.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Yeah, it is. I will say, though, it was a little reminiscent of the end of the Blues Brothers when every agency shows up at the county clerk's office and everything. Like, you do, I think it's in this scene where you see some SWAT and they do the same thing. Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. I think it's right here. But that doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:13:04 John Landis never recycled bits. That's what, where you talk, no, he's on top. He never does that. Yeah, when you're right, you're right. I mean, to give him, we're trashing him a lot. I mean, to give him credit, I do, I think Blue's Brothers is great.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It's one of my favorite movies of all time. Previous episode, American Werewolf in London. Yes, we love movies. Monsters make great, good and great movies. That's true. Let's be honest here. Aside from a few bits here and there, Animal House is still a brilliant comedy.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I think the last movie of his, of his I liked was 2000-something slasher, the documentary about the car salesman guy. Oh, was that from 2000? I thought that was earlier. I've never seen it early. Didn't he do the Don Rickles documentary? Oh, I don't know. I know that his last
Starting point is 01:13:45 theatrically released movie was 2010's Burke and Hair with... Is it Andy Circus and Simon Pegg, I believe, is the famous grave robbers? Not good. I didn't see it. It sort of looked like I don't want to anyway. There's a documentary called Mr. Warmth about John Rickles with everything.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I think he directed it. I'm not 100% on that. He's definitely in it. But that Birken Hair was like his last narrative. I'm pretty sure. He was directing a bunch of episodes of like some cartoon show. Franklin and Bash, Stanley's Superhero Kindergarten.
Starting point is 01:14:16 That's what I think I was thinking of. I did some psych. TV show called Fear itself. Mr. Warmth, yes. Masters of Horror he did. Slashers 2004. Oh, wow. That's way later than I would have got slasher.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah, John. we know it's a cartoon and we know it's a fantastical world and we all love what you're doing with it but I really don't think you should have a talking helicopter I'm going to be very straight with you I don't think that's a good idea come on kids you can work at night
Starting point is 01:14:41 how tall are you I just have to get this shot really right do you think he wanted to direct that cars fire and rescue with Dane Cook is that plane yes oh no now me helicopter have a tummy ache and I'm falling over whoops
Starting point is 01:14:58 whoops I'm a little too sleepy that actually you just reminded me of something when he's being chased by security guards at one point
Starting point is 01:15:07 there's the repeated shots of they're jumping over the little train set and then the one security guard steps on it and they just have the it's only to be
Starting point is 01:15:17 the voice of the train goes, ow! No sir, that's not a joke come on it's a kid's I mean like that's the weird thing
Starting point is 01:15:26 is like it's not even a comedy he's going for. It's clearly like a kid's movie that he's pitching towards. Thomas the tank engine got stepped on and said, owie. Speaking of disasters and kids, what's Max up to these days? Oh, man. I'm making that four hour
Starting point is 01:15:39 hears me doing every DC character that I couldn't even break myself to watch. He's just like a YouTube loser. He's like a YouTube. Yeah, yeah, baby. That's what he's been accidentally out to. Oh, yeah. Because he did crimes, right? Yeah, I forget the exact ones. We don't have to be going. Sex pestery. Oh, that's pretty canceled. Pretty serious stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Total sense. Uh, but so Axel, they find in the truck a little piece of paper that Axel realizes his actual money is his paper that would be used to print money and he kind of puts it together that this is a counterfeiting operation goes back to Wonderworld by himself this is when he's like
Starting point is 01:16:10 he sneaks around and he finds the he finds them printing the money right? Yeah because this is where he dresses up like okie dokey. Thank you that's the big sequence. It's him and the elephant and the security team is looking for him and then it's like oh here's a file photo on Foley and it's literally just a frame
Starting point is 01:16:27 from the movie, printed on paper. But it's funny because, like, Jerisa Randall clearly helps him out with this and, like, gets him the suit and all that stuff. But you don't see any of that. She's just like, Axel, you're here. It's like, okay. And it's like, yeah, there's a fun scene with a,
Starting point is 01:16:41 a bratty kid and a cute kid. Oh, my God. Oh, that's very funny. He pushes the bratty kid into the fountain, which is kind of great. That kid's hilarious. The little boy laughing. With, like, you've got no teeth in his mouth.
Starting point is 01:16:52 It's just like, it's great. It's so awesome. And I love the grandmother. You don't fuck with my. kids. It's so great. He just runs. My favorite scene is the next one when he's going downstairs. There's a second
Starting point is 01:17:05 okey dokey. Yes. And then Teresa like has to figure out who, Teresa Randa has to figure out which one is him. Yes. But in the background, there are a bunch of the other mascots. Because they're like playing poker or something. They're playing poker. And like it looks like a, like a furry hotel
Starting point is 01:17:21 room. Yeah. You nailed it. Was Ku Klux Klam in the background? Oh, man, I wish. They are talking about how the new Rufus Rabbit is really fuckable. They're just like, hey, have you seen the new Rufus Rabbit?
Starting point is 01:17:37 She's got quite a tail on her. That's amazing. Well, this is a joke in the 90s mascoty humor kind of like, these guys are dressed up like whatever, but they're actually pretty surly underneath kind of a gag. Well, that was like at least
Starting point is 01:17:53 27 to 37 ESPN commercials were related. with that? Yeah. Oh, God. It's like, you know, it was always like the Sports Center offices 8 a.m. and they're all checking into work and you'd be like, what the fuck are they doing there? They're not broadcasters, these commercials don't make any sense. You're telling me the guy underneath Big Bird smoking a cigar. And now you can say, fuck. I bet Carol Spinney enjoyed a cigar too. Sure, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Almost died in the Challenger. Really? Dude, so there is, there's a great documentary on Carol Spinney and just his history as Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch. One of the stories that is told in it. They were going to shoot him into space. Big Bird was going to be on the challenger, dude. I'm not making this up. They were like, wouldn't it be great?
Starting point is 01:18:36 Carol Spinney was going to go into outer space as Big Bird. To get kids to want to be astronauts or NASA. Here's a live feed of Big Bird dying. Burning to death. Dude, if that happened, they would have to do like a full-on Capricorn one. There would be a, yeah. And secretly, oh, no, Biggbert's fine. Cut to the other footage where Bigwood's fine.
Starting point is 01:18:54 It has to be that, or it would be, we would have statues in every park we would honestly prefer O.J. Simpson on this. If we really if it's between the two. I mean honestly what's good for the goose is good for the gander. You'd have fucking Oscar the Grouch singing at his funeral then. But
Starting point is 01:19:11 oh, that's a true story. Carol Spinney was supposed to be on the Challenger and he was going to put the big bird suit on and he'll be like, it's big birds in space. And they mixed the idea and then history happened. Crazy crazy story. But so he, that was God's retribution.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I couldn't wait to see it Big Bird was going to be as close to me as possible Scrap Big Bird coming to my celestial heavens Oh I see Barbara cursed that Barbara God's assistant Barbara He gets But so he gets into the under belly here
Starting point is 01:19:44 And he does see Them all printing the money Yeah because he's like where's a place in the park That they could still hide And she's like oh the haunted or the enchanted forest Is under construction And that's like under that they've got the Oh, happy fourth.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Either way, it's a bit of a misnomer because this place looks terrifying as I'll get it. You know in To Live and Die in L.A. When Willem Defoe, like, rents out all these, like, abandoned hotels and stuff and, like, is doing all this kind of fitting there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:12 That makes a ton more fucking sex. Oh, yeah. Doing it at a fucking active theme part. It's ineptitude, man. It's crazy. It's just hide in plain sights, right? I suppose so. Because eventually we do get that scene with Saxon
Starting point is 01:20:25 that it's the, whoa, Mickey Mouse money. Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah. He, uh, any, we're doing a little bit of diehard here. And he's in the vents, snooping into this back area or whatever. He sees the money and then the security guards start chasing him.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Because Ellis DeWald sees him in a fucking mirror reflection immediately. He's, his cover is blown in less than 10 seconds in the scene. There's the weird sexy line with Teresa Randall says about like they're, they're close together. They're looking at the map of the thing. Yes. And he's and, and he's like. Oh, I have to go to the happy forest. It's like, what can I go?
Starting point is 01:21:00 She's, it's been closed for far too long. Oh, yeah. How long has the happy forest been closed? Too long, she says. There's so many of these lines with her, like, at the end line. I'm just going to say right now. Oh, do it. Oh, let's go to the tunnel of love ride.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Oh, you have one? Like, we do now. The tunnel of love is her pussy. That's the fucking joke. That was you yelling at the feet. That tunnel of love is your pussy. Does everybody get it? Andrew, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:21:28 This is me giving you a reminder. Isolate that for me, please. No problem, though. The tunnel of love is her pussy. If someone could, yeah, put that into some music tracks. I know some creative people are out there. The tunnel of love is her pussy. Oh, it's just going straight to my soundboard.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Eddie sound cloud rappers that's the next Vince Staples record. The tunnel loves a pussy. Honestly. It is. That would be really cool if that happened if you had Staples. Sampled, Eric. The tunnel of love is her pussy. But yeah, so now it's just another,
Starting point is 01:22:03 he goes out to the park, and this is when he starts firing wildly. Because he's about all the guys surround him, and the idea is like, oh my God, they're going to execute me. There's a guy filming. We're doing a little Rodney King-ish kind of nod here. We absolutely are, Steve.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Don't worry about that. Yeah, the dude has his fucking camcorder trained on this black guy, absolutely. This is great. Yeah. Oh, bad. I don't know why he has to fire his gun in the air to be like, I'm unarmed. I don't know, it's an interesting choice.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I guess he makes a public scene so they can't execute him. So he wouldn't be like shot in the middle of a crowd or something. What fantasy world is this? Well, it's, yeah. I mean, it's even weirder that the Wally World people just have guns and all of them have guns. It is a great line at the beginning when he's fucking with the dudes at the admission desk and he's like, have your tailor bring your suit jackets out. see the outline of your gun behind you or whatever, that's kind of a cool.
Starting point is 01:23:00 That's on purpose. That's the cool like your fucking detective Axel Foley, you notice shit like that. And again, if you're counterfeiting offices are anywhere other than an active theme park, you don't need to have all these dudes with guns. They could just be regular security guards. That would make a ton more sense.
Starting point is 01:23:16 With the, I mean, to me, you are all underselling Ellis DeWalt's final plan here because he has the kids that he's helping out. And he's got this small army, he's amassing at them. I think he's got an army coming together. I see. He wants new troops every time
Starting point is 01:23:32 and eventually when Uncle Dave dies, Alice the wall takes over this place. And you can just fucking, you can launder everything in that place. Wonder World is a sovereign nation you're saying. Oh yeah. Yeah, no, the jungle cruises down against some Yale. I mean, um, kids we're, uh, we're having trouble
Starting point is 01:23:48 in there. Uh, that's what happened. Yeah, the hippo, the hippo did it. Uh, we have some, we have some more gaslighting here where that Eddie brings McCatty and everybody in like the printing fake money and blah blah blah and oh yeah sure yeah do a run of the paper John
Starting point is 01:24:04 Saxon and it's Wally Wonderworld Bucks or whatever we're debuting this at Christmas blah Christmas promotion school all across the country they're going to do it and they're like giving this money to like kids can get it and use it to get into the word giving
Starting point is 01:24:20 it to all the orphanages baby or whatever wait hold on someone's shoplifting key chains in the in Wallywood. I got to go upstairs. You take care of the rest of this. Give me one of those shotguns. Got bigger fish to fry up there at the keychain stand. What's that a mega soda fell on the ground? Well, I'll get to it this afternoon. Just put a caution, wet floor sign there till I can go handle the job. I have to drag out the other dead kid too before I get to that one. I got to approve the designs on the new character Frisky Fox. Oh, God damn it, we're at a
Starting point is 01:24:55 double X okey-dokey t-shirts. I told them to order more. Fat people like the ok-dokey. My God. I'll be down there soon to stretch out the regular X-L. I'll use a Sharpie to put in a X-XL. I'll solve the problem
Starting point is 01:25:11 of a fixer. A married couple is arguing at an okey-dokey-pokey-pokey-bowl restaurant. We need to get them out of here immediately. Okay, dokey polky-pocker. That's pretty good. I like that. I had it. But, yeah, so there's, it's just fake money.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And then McCaddy is like, God damn it, Axel, you've ruined our case or something. I remember I'm in this movie, Stephen McCaddy. Yes, we're working this case for years. You've blown it, blah, blah, blah, get on this plane this time. And then you have Ellis DeWalk. Make sure he doesn't get on the plane. Oh. And then this is where he goes to Eddie is, or Axel is meeting up with Uncle Dave.
Starting point is 01:25:50 This is where Uncle Dave is assassinated in a drive-by sure assassination attempt. First, he escapes Hector Elizondo by just getting out in the middle of traffic and running away. Oh, right. There's so much in this movie is just him running away from things. Yes. And Elizondo's like, God damn and Axel, that was my retirement plan. He keeps talking about he's got three kids in a mortgage and like
Starting point is 01:26:08 I want to work at Wonder World once I retire. That's a sweet gig for me. And again, like yes, is he crooked? Is he not? Like, these are things that might be a movie. Yeah, yeah, totally. This new character that we've never met before, why should we trust him? Boy, wouldn't that be interesting. He's a little too chummy for
Starting point is 01:26:24 own good. Exactly. Like when he's like, oh, yeah, Ellis, are we still up for? And he does like the Johnny Carson gulp swing on Sunday, you know, like that kind of shit. You think like he's in bed with him. Ellis said that I could become a lieutenant. Now, I don't know why it's military term. But he said it, and I believe him.
Starting point is 01:26:40 I'm going to get my riches. That is coming from the open group and furor. Ellis DeWalt, the open group and furor of the... Well, you want to be part of us? You're going to have to kill Okie Dook. Which one? It doesn't matter. Ellis DeWald is driving him
Starting point is 01:26:56 like through a neighborhood with Hector Alizando in the back of the city. He just like sees a guy walk in his dog and he's a handsome of a gun. Let's see if you're really Wadi World material. Oh yes. But yeah so he meets him with Uncle Dave.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Duwold comes upon them. All their guys are there. Their genius move, which was genius. We just follow Uncle Dave places. Yes. We do. You'd come to you. And they shoot Uncle Dave in the chest. They just blow this dude away. After he's been like, by the way, again,
Starting point is 01:27:27 your mystery guy who is still, and I guess you just have to presume Ellis Dwald had this guy murdered, but like this partner of Uncle Dave's, oh, that note that he, you know, wrote you, it's on fake currency paper, blah, blah, blah. We go the Roger Rabbit route. Yeah, oh, yes. But yeah, he's shot in the street
Starting point is 01:27:46 and then they make it, it's with Axel's gun, and then they make it look like Axel's the one that did it. This is, we start getting the, do you hear a black guy shot Uncle Dave and all that shit because it's going around the news and everything. Now, John, have you ever thought that maybe, maybe Uncle Dave gets killed by a radio? If you ever think of that?
Starting point is 01:28:05 Me and Stephen had a discussion the other day, and I think it could really go well if you just, oh no, he gets shot. It's a radio. It kind of science fiction like that, isn't it? It makes it a little more interesting. A bunch of flashlights. What about flashlights and radio?
Starting point is 01:28:18 What if Axel had a robot friend? That we are dangerously close to that with this movie And it was cool when Sylvester did it in Rocky Forest So I'm just saying you could have robot friends in your movies There's this great scene that stops the movie fucking dead with all these This is the Ray Harryhausen bar scene We're like it's like all these like 300 year old men at a bar being like They shot Uncle Dave oh my goodness
Starting point is 01:28:44 Uncle Dave you say Uncle Dave Uncle Dave oh my God Uncle Dave I heard it was a black guy I just heard it was a guy really? What's the descriptor really matter? Well, it's just the way I see people. But, yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:58 and also, like, speaking of the ER, like, the fucking Uncle Dave brought into this emergency room. Alan Young with his shirt off of the bloody fucking, like, hole in his chest. Uncle Day, we're not going to lose you. It is truly wild.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And then he just, like, is allowed to walk out of the hospital at that point when it's like, you brought in a... He sneaks out. He Oh, where's the Coke machine? And then he finds the window or whatever. No, yeah, it's insane. But still. The cops are like, hey, so what happened with this old guy?
Starting point is 01:29:27 What's going on? Yes. This is one of the richest men in California, if not the world. Now, Uncle Dave, say it with me. The tunnel of love is her pussy. You're going to be okay. Come on. We're going to be okay.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Are you a doctor? Are you a doctor? Did you go to doctor? I'm going to be okay. Oki dokey. I'm going to be Oki-Dokey, Kay. Such a Scrooge McDuck voice. That would be great.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Oh, when I'm in Penn. pain. I just go to my fake Scottish accent I do sometimes. Ah! Yeah, so he steals a sports car from Barbay Schroeder so we can go meet up with Ellis DeWall.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Oh, was that the guy that was doing the parking for me? Oh, and he just loses his sports car. You know EDM in, don't you? He gets Billy on the way as well, and someone's going to call Huck Gerald is on to remind him that third act
Starting point is 01:30:22 is coming up, so that would be good, of course. I do like right here, so it's like, you know, the finale of the film at Wonderworld Park, cool mat painting, a composite shot here of whatever park they were filming at, and then the massive fake Wonderworld Park map behind it. And you know, less is more with this. If the shootout, if it was just ending at Wonderworld,
Starting point is 01:30:43 it would be better. Because by the time I'm seeing these same rides for the fifth time. No, exactly. I have zero interest in this. We've been going to Wonderworld so many times. I've seen every ride. I've seen every corridor. I really don't need another corridor in this movie.
Starting point is 01:30:58 It's just catch and release. It's been constantly just, he gets taken, he gets away. He gets taken, he gets away. Just fucking end it. Shoot him.
Starting point is 01:31:06 At least like the first movie, I believe, ends up like that crazy drug mansion, which we've never seen before. Oh, yes. And it's all the three of them in shotguns are going fucking crazy,
Starting point is 01:31:15 like with the Wonderland murders. And the second one's like those oil fields. And like, Again, a place that I don't think they go to before that end of the movie. No, no, no. And there you get, I mean, that is where you expect a Juergen Prock now to be. Absolutely. But yes, of course, also villain bait, Teresa Randall has been kidnapped,
Starting point is 01:31:35 which is also why he's racing back to the Wonder World Park. Speaking of that, and we just brought it up, there may be, I have not seen a kidnap bait so rough as Mike Lowry's wife and the new bad boys. Oh, yes. I have never it has been years since I've seen it so blatant gorgeous woman new character
Starting point is 01:31:55 in the film franchise and it's like no no scenes and then she's kidding out damsel meet distress Teresa Randall does not appear as Teresa in the new movie and it's insane
Starting point is 01:32:09 because Teresa has kind of a good chunk to do in this one and I'm like what happened? It's really why they recast her? Yeah it's still Teresa the character played by a different woman. Unforgivable. I was kind of bombed, honestly.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I sincerely hope it was like a scheduling conflict and that was not money. That was it. Yeah. I hope it's a TV show she's working on or something. That would be better. Precisely, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:31 But yeah, so we're back at Wonderworld. Here we go. And it's just, this is, I remember this part of the movie most clearly because I feel like I caught this one on cable a lot and it was always right here. It was always at the end of the movie. Which is funny because what keeps happening,
Starting point is 01:32:46 we're not talking about it, is he keeps putting a gun to, Elisdwald's head to get out of trouble. Oh, right. And literally, at some point, somebody goes, not again. I'm like, yeah, I've seen this happen three different times. Yeah, don't let your characters announce that the movie's getting repetitive. And that's the thing, too, is like,
Starting point is 01:33:02 setting, again, with your Colombo, T.J. Hooker rules, like, we know who the bad guy is, the hero knows what the bad guy is. They've had way too many scenes together. Yes. You know what I mean? There's no, like, chair to turn around. I mean, it's like John Saxon, but not really. I guess Stephen McHackson. is the big chair to turn around.
Starting point is 01:33:20 But that's like six seconds long. The chair hasn't stopped moving and he's assassinated. He just walks in as like, hey, corrupt. And that's it. Like it's like, ah, you know, we got to end the movie. And maybe I'll shoot judge. Everybody's got a shot in their arm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Judge Reinhold has to get the last shot in his arm. And that's what that is right. I love, so Judge Ryanhold is here for some reason. Axel uses the bright light thing. There's a big kerfuffle. Judge Reinhold and Teresa Randall go in the computer room. And there's what seems. to be, what we're told is an
Starting point is 01:33:50 impenetrable glass wall that closes them in and like it's starting to freeze them because it's about the hard drives, overheating, yada, yada. It's in case of a fire. Yeah, so they have to like they're like beeping Hector Elizondo or something with the phone and that's what allows him to know that the third
Starting point is 01:34:06 act is happening. Yes. And like this is happening while Axel is doing all this action stuff we keep cutting back to it and then Judge Ronald just breaks a chair through it. I'm like yeah, dude, that's the first thing I'm doing. Chair number one. Trying to call someone's pager repeatedly, that's at least the third idea. They're like, oh my god,
Starting point is 01:34:23 is this the end? Oh, wait, that fucking chair is right there. I guess because when the, when the, everything's spread, like he has Ellis by the throat. Yeah. I think because when they go towards the thing, they can see them and can shoot them. But like, it seemed, the way I read it was that that thing was bulletproof.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yes, exactly. But like, I'm like, okay, so it was this glass? What the fuck? In movies, those things normally are bulletproof when you see a big wall like that. The movie is. No respect for its audience. Yeah, absolutely none. Absolutely not. Although I do like, this is like the one I feel symbolic moment that Eddie Murphy got to do.
Starting point is 01:34:56 He gets the Annihilator 2000 out. Yes. And at first when he tries to do it, I think it's easy E that plays. Okay. And then what's the next one? Jerry Lewis. Uh-huh. It lets you know.
Starting point is 01:35:08 He's got him on the mind. Yeah. Oh, good call. Well, no, he's in a lot of interviews, he's like, Jerry Lewis is his hero. Oh, yeah. He's a huge, Jerry Lewis. Oh, I didn't know that. Nut job.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Well, I mean, that makes sense of it. why we would do nothing for us. I guess so, or money. Or money. First one's pretty good. I still like that first one. Absolutely. I haven't seen it forever.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Are you knocking the clumps? Oh, yeah, I am knocking them. Absolutely, I'm knocking them. I haven't watched it in a while. But part two, the clumps, that's Janet Jackson as a lady friend? Yes. You got that. Jada Pinkett's in the first one.
Starting point is 01:35:38 That's right. That's right. That's right. And we're, so we mentioned Elizando's getting these pages. And unless I was not paying attention at some point, when he picks up the call He's like, who keeps paging me? He's just at some fire? Yes, with John Singleton. John Singleton is the firefighter just come in and be like,
Starting point is 01:35:55 hey, do you hear some black guy shot Uncle Dave? It's a funny thing and obviously RIPD, Total Legend, John Singleton. But, like, why is he at that fire? What, like, what is this character doing? I have a better question. Why wasn't he directing this fucking movie? Oh, that's a good call. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:36:12 You got to get the murderer in? You can't give it to John Singleton. Oh, Eddie, I heard there's a script that just got Greenlee for Beverly Hills Cop 3. I figure that's why I'm picking up the phone, right? Yeah, John, you want to play a firefighter and a useless cameo? Wait, what? Do you like Hector Elizondo?
Starting point is 01:36:28 Let me ask you that first. I love taking care of business, sure. That's what I'm a fair movie. Why? Wait, why? Strap it. It's just, that is a bigger waste, I feel, the old timers or whatever
Starting point is 01:36:43 getting in there. That's just a nice thing, but like, you have an upcoming director. Great director right there playing a fucking firefighter. It is dumb as shit. A guy who knows how to direct action? A guy who knows how to direct comedy? Wouldn't you know it?
Starting point is 01:36:57 What the fuck? But yeah, so he uses the annihilator. I do like the rocket launcher into the little merch cart there. It's fun. He just starts laying waste to these security guards, though. It's pretty great.
Starting point is 01:37:07 There are so many that get killed. I mean, like, it's just, you got to kill them all. You do. And it's just like this park has to close. It has to. It has to. It's riddled with bullets. There's blood everywhere. There's no, like you would at least, all right, maybe you don't want the whole party about it
Starting point is 01:37:21 is you have to decimate and salt the earth around this fucking alien ride because like nine dudes lose their lives in here due to the ride. Like, like Axel uses the ride to kill these because he's already seen how it works. Does Saxton get killed? Saxon gets killed with Steve McHadding. Oh, it's you. Well, we're going to, oh no. Yeah, it's like it's like the made and clue. Yes, exactly. It is. It's the only POV shot. I was just, you know, if he lived, Saxon'd be like, I'll get down there with the mopping buckets. Oh, it looks like we had a big blood spill
Starting point is 01:37:55 in the alien ride again. Oopsie doopsie. You can't shoot me, who's going to clean the blood? And our big conclusion at the land of dinosaurs, which, if anything, looked like a bad state fair rider. This cheap shit, I think this was what they said was at Knott's Berry Farm or something.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Okay. And just this bad, dinosaur ride where it is your hilarious. Here's a caveman right next to all these dinosaurs. Look, he's riding. Wow, yeah. There's Jesus back there. Oh, wait, there's Ellis. Boom. You're dead.
Starting point is 01:38:31 All right. We're done. I mean, he shoots the shit out of him. It is awesome. But like, it's very unceremonious. Because they've been talking the whole movie. There's no need for any kind of like mustache twirling or parlor scene. And Hector Alizando got shot by one of the guards. So now we have matching bullet. wounds. I assume you get tattoos over those fuckers.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I've always loved Elizondo's reaction to getting shot in this movie because he's just walking along and he gets up in the arm and he's and he just kind of like keeps, it barely breaks a stride. Dude, that guy's a Terminator. That's all three of them. All of them react like, oh, okay, that happens. You're totally right, Eric. That is what Terminator 3
Starting point is 01:39:05 should have been. Not some big sexy lady that is going to garner attention. A short Latino bald man walking around Southern Los Angeles, no one's blinking. He'll be coming as the one you leave. expect. Yeah, dude, not term it. I don't want the termine, term, term, what do they call?
Starting point is 01:39:22 Terminatrix, which is weird. Very sexualized. Is it that weird? It's like, oh, she could the lap dance me? What is that? Dom me. Don me. Don't me terminatrix. She steps on my non-existent balls. I want terma poppy, dude. Yes. Yes. That'd be so cool. He's wearing a straw hat. It would be great. His hand turns into a hammer.
Starting point is 01:39:43 It's a little low tech at the same time. Paddle me. pardon me terminatrix I've been a bad boy like of course like the Christina Lockin like the suit that they put her in in that movie it is supposed to be Albany native by the way oh yeah that's right whip my ass Terminator
Starting point is 01:39:59 because that's exactly what it's the T625 it's the Hector Alizando model pretty short its hand can turn it to a hammer it can smoke so that's good other terminators couldn't smoke I'm going to tell you this the machines hated it
Starting point is 01:40:13 they thought it was useless but I think it might have some use now. Oh, yeah, the Hector Elizondo. Yeah, no, Joshua Gabor has two of these. Hector Elizondo Terminators. Jackie Stallone, she has five of them. She got them as stocking stuff as he's a small guy.
Starting point is 01:40:30 T625, it's on back order. Oh, the 625. I don't know why that is a perfect number for that robot. That's what you want. It's certainly better than our Ronnie Cox models. But yeah, so then finally Stephen McCatty shows up.
Starting point is 01:40:46 And it's, yeah, there's this, it's like, oh, yes. And first, like, Axel, let's get out of here. This is, you know, this is dangerous, you know, blah, blah, blah. And you're right all along. I just don't. The movie doesn't tell you when it was he figured out McCaddy was crooked. It just doesn't. And there needs to be, the scene of him killing John Saxon needs to be a full scene of
Starting point is 01:41:06 of Stephen McCaddy coming in. And then like, they say something like, oh, yes. Well, we'll have this merchandise ready by Friday or something. And they just shoot some of the chest. you've mopped up your last soda motherfucker. Exactly. That's what happened when Dean Cain gets shot in the second one
Starting point is 01:41:22 during the robbery when Bridget Nielsen is like because they're putting everything on him. They've done this right before. It's not like you didn't know what to do. You just let fucking John Landis do it. I do love the Billy Rosewood just dripping blood.
Starting point is 01:41:39 You guys okay? It's very funny. And then they all start, I guess because they're all losing blood, like giggling. like he needs medical attention it's kind of funny it's a funny little bit and then yes the medal ceremony which happens
Starting point is 01:41:51 they're all in wheelchair so like we're talking total tops like 10 days later maybe two weeks dude Reinhold's got like his arm up in a cast I don't think the Papier machet is set yet
Starting point is 01:42:00 like this medal ceremony and it's like the park is open I don't think so you could not bribe 20 people to attend this metal ceremony and this place is packed the Oake Corral
Starting point is 01:42:12 not even just their you know flesh wounds or whatever uncle Dave got shot in the abdomen or chest or whatever that's going to take more than a week or two oh yeah this old fuck dude yeah for sure he's up here giving a public address and a podium they're in the wheelchairs
Starting point is 01:42:26 and all the kids who were almost shot are like are in the middle of gunfire I mean you're supposed to go through that at school not an amusement park glad we fixed that in this coming on you need some little kid you need the joke to be like fuck this I'm going to Disneyland
Starting point is 01:42:42 yeah but yeah so it's like oh and the to say thank you to the friend who saved me here's our latest cartoon creation Axel Fox and up comes to Fox and hit that fucking theme song
Starting point is 01:42:57 one more time they need to address that in the new movie if you have like a cartoon character based off of you that's got to be something well yeah does it come with a gun because that's what if I was like oh it's Axel Fox I know Axel Fox as a person who's shooting a gun everywhere
Starting point is 01:43:11 Well, you know, we used to, we need to get back to that world, right? Because Elmer Fudd, he's a funny shotguns. What's the cowboy guy? Yes, Sammy Cyan. Yeah, he's a big gun guy. I think they've both put their firearms down. I think they have radios now. Wow.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Yeah. They're all radios. One different America. Fudd has a very long radio and then it's a smaller radio. You know what he's got two smaller ones. Here we go. Yeah, the elephant gun of radios. But yeah, the Teresa Reddell's like, let's go fuck.
Starting point is 01:43:40 And he says, yes, let's go fuck. And that's, yeah, he gets wheeled off to get his dick sucked and that's the end of him. Hey, what does the tunnel of love represent? The tunnel of love is her pussy. Oh, I see. I get it. I didn't get that before.
Starting point is 01:43:52 It's very blatant. Yeah, no, as it turns out, The tunnel of love is her pussy. You could even believe it. That is, uh... Take a ride. That is what we thought to be the end of this franchise until later in this week or whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:06 This new one comes out and, you know, we'll see. None of us have seen it. The new trailer, I made it look kind of, interesting. Explain to me how Taggart is still working, though. I don't know what's going on. We retired in this movie. He was chasing golf balls, we say. He retired in Phoenix, Arizona, and he's
Starting point is 01:44:21 back in this one. Maybe he's, maybe he should just play the Joe Flint character, the Hector Elizondo. Just don't even call him Tagger. You look an awful lot like our old friend, tag. Oh, or maybe it's Taggart's brother. We're doing a fucking Curly's Gold thing. I would love
Starting point is 01:44:37 that. The general manager of the Phoenix Sons is shot in L.A. for some reason. Yep, you've got to get tag it back. But for now, that is going to do it for our conversation on Beverly Hills Cop 3. We'll go around the horn here. Final thoughts, Eric Siska. Yeah, it's not great. I mean, there's no one wants to be there and you can feel it.
Starting point is 01:44:56 And the location, I think it sounds like a good idea, the whole like diehard at an amusement park. Right. But it gets old fast. I say skip it this summer. Chris Kemp. Yeah, it's not good. I think there are elements here that could have worked again under a better director
Starting point is 01:45:14 better writing team bunch of stuff but it's kid friendly stuff for a franchise that's known for its dirtiness like showing like oh my god he's such this low class guy in this high class plays thank God they don't do too much
Starting point is 01:45:30 like if they had gone full like snobs versus slops I might have really hated this but this I've just kind of like shrugged my shoulders I'm done with it if you would like if you prefer a better movie that ends in a dinosaur park. Clifford, of course, is available for rental and dreaming at any time. Or speaking of ending in a dinosaur park, any of those Jurassic Park movies could help you out there. Steven. Yeah, it's not good. I grew up on it. I loved it. I have a lot of affection for
Starting point is 01:45:58 early Eddie Murphy. I mean, you know what I mean? But here, it's just, he clearly doesn't care. I mean, and I do think it's funny that it takes the clumps to bring him back doing a Jerry Lewis kind of a riff to do like. And there he's got his whole fucking ass in that movie. You know what I mean? Here He's kind of embarrassed. He's sheepish. He's not, you can just tell he's not into it. And you know, you don't need to brought some Pinchot to tell you that. But it's nice that he came out and said it.
Starting point is 01:46:21 It's just, it's not worth it. And I'm not super excited for Axel F. Yeah. I looked it up, though. At least with this fourth one, it is rated R. So that hopefully means the profanity of violence would be there. Because that's something that really could have killed this. It's like a soft-ish recommend for me. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:46:41 It's a hangover movie, and I'm pretty sure I've tested that theory already on this film. I believe that. And it worked just fine. It's not offensive at all. No, no, no, no. I mean, there's been worse movies discussed on this show over the years. But, like, if this movie, because of, like, the whole, you know, Disney riff or whatever, if it lost the profanity in the violence, then there would be no hope for this movie.
Starting point is 01:47:05 The fact that it's still, we're getting some good kids. we're getting profanity. There's at least that to hang on to, but it is a shell of what I think are two really great action movies that came before in the first two. But that is going to do it for this episode of We Hate Movies. As always, if you want more content from us, we got plenty of shows
Starting point is 01:47:22 over on Patreon. Patreon.com slash We Hate Movies, where this month we do have a We Love Movies all about Back to the Future Three, which it's been so long almost that I almost forgot. But that's going on. Animation Damnation this month. On Men in Black.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Ha, ha, ha. And slide with me. Just slide with me. Great song. Now just bounce with me, Chris Cablin. Yeah, so that's going on. The Gleep Gloucery, another deep dive. Another esoteric character you're not, you don't like, you don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Nichos Marr, who is a guy that's like a Jedi, and he becomes a robot, and then he becomes a dead guy. Tune into the Gleep Glossary. He's part of the Callista Saga. That's right. We've been going through lately. We're going to move on to a bigger name. next month but it's a very exciting entry and this month of course
Starting point is 01:48:11 is a once on a lifetime available now month Chris Cabber unwed father with our favorite of course David Silver Brian Austin Green himself The Bagman Yes and also with
Starting point is 01:48:26 What was her name? Nicole Tom Who was also we just covered on Melro Her exit of 90210 as Sue Scamble Beethoven is Colin That's right Busy with the nanny so that's going on and also
Starting point is 01:48:39 this month at the end of the month we are dropping our next commentary that's right Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fireman Terry that is it's a really good one you're going to want to catch that for sure it's my first time seeing the movie and I hit some thoughts
Starting point is 01:48:54 absolutely but it's our first one with dead kids in it so there was at least that going through yeah so slight recommend and of course if you are a patron member at the $8 level or up you might be listening to this very episode right now commercial
Starting point is 01:49:09 free, that's right, ad free $8 level in up over on the Patreon so if you hear on the free feed, listen to them commercials, there is an alternative for you should you choose that now? And so next Tuesday we hate movies rolls on Steve Sadek with which motion picture we'll be discussing. We are going back to
Starting point is 01:49:25 the dumb cop market with Paul Blart Mall Cop Part 2. Yes, yes. Is it a chapter 2? Because I would really like it. I think it's just have that flavor to it. I think it's 2. It's Paul It's just... Paul Cup, too.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Damn it. Yeah. So, more Kevin James humiliating. I haven't seen this yet, so I'm very excited. We're doing like... We didn't plan on doing a cop summer,
Starting point is 01:49:45 but we're doing a cop summer. A lot of cop, big cop action movies, man. That's true. Call a mall security guard. A cop is a bit of a stretch, but I guess we'll go with that. They all want to be, that's for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:55 That's true. So until next week with Paul Bort 2. I've been Andrew Jupy. Steven Seda. Eric Sisker, Chris Cabin. Take it easy. The tunnel of love is her pussy. The tunnel of love is her pussy.

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