We Hate Movies - S14: October 2023 Mail Bag
Episode Date: October 25, 2023On the spooktacular October edition of WHM Mail Bag, the guys are reading letters about Jason Miller’s Scranton pride, a dude who was WAY too into the Saw franchise, a disastrous screening of the fi...rst Sex and the City movie, and one terrifying tale about fella who really messed up during some quality Alone Time with himself! PLUS: Is the President stealing our material? Do you have a question for the gang or want one of your weird, wild stories read on the air? Then write into the Mail Bag: weallhatemovies@gmail.com! And be sure to join us TOMORROW NIGHT for our worldwide digital show where we’ll be talking Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter LIVE! And stick around after the show for an exclusive After Party Q&A session! Get your tix now! Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Be sure to get in early and get your tickets for the WHM Holiday Extravaganza where we’re talking The Santa Clause! Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!
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POMAYOR.
BORILEEN SULLILEEN SULLIV.
BORILEEN SULLIV.
BORN-D-D-D-E-BOR.
So, I'm going to be able to be.
Well, well, well, what's going on, everybody?
Welcome to W.H.M. Mailbag.
My name is Andrew Jupin.
In a few minutes, I'm going to bring in some cool dudes to help me read some letters that you,
possibly, I don't know if you mean you directly, but possibly you wrote in and we're going
to read it on the air.
And, you know, maybe if it's a question, we're going to answer it, do our damnedest to
answer it.
It's a letter about a weird, embarrassing story where,
probably going to make fun of it and then use that story to piggyback on some personal
memories of our own, which will then also make fun of. And that's what we do here on
WHM Mailbag. I love to see the chat is rocking and rolling. Hello, Fortune's Daughter. I'm
so Rachel, Kevin Lynch, our good buddy Bucyrus 87, of course. Pete Robles, Wesley Hall. Oh, yeah.
Thank you one and all for tuning in this fine evening. Now let's bring in my buds here. First up,
It's been away for quite some time
and some suspected, possibly deceased.
But I'm proud to report this evening,
Stephen Sadek returns to the live stream.
Hey, buddy.
Hello, how's it going?
Good man.
And I'm dead serious, by the way, presumed dead.
It's this, I turned 40, which is about the same thing.
Yes, no, I was in Paris for a little while.
It was super fun.
My wife and I went.
It was, you know, it was honestly for a,
for a little poor boy from the,
the Bronx. It was like
Richard Morse in Mad Men would say
he's an astronaut. Like me
being in Paris is like
a man going to the moon.
So I felt. Yeah.
It took millennia, but it finally
happened. Man went on the moon. You went
to a city overseas. Exactly.
Had a good time, I assume.
Canada doesn't count, ladies
gentlemen, sorry. It's, it's
well, that's not overseas at all. It's just up for us.
Yeah, exactly. It's just up. Overseas
for some. Exactly.
uh not us uh anyway welcome back dude we're going to bring in uh our other bud here this dude
he's been reading up a storm since you've been gone mr chris cabin and on top of that you're
dirty rotten son of a bitch if you like the parent trap oh wait what kind of son of a bitch would
do this what kind of son of a bitch would enjoy a movie where two people who hate each other
justifiably are forced back together who would want these kind of terrible things to happen
You know what, Dave Kerr occasionally, he nails it.
Occasionally he really gets it.
That sounds about right.
You know, not all the time, but pretty good.
Pretty good.
You getting some post-dinner reading in there, buddy?
Yeah, I just finished a fish stew.
So, whoa, look at you.
Fucking Mr. Fish stew over here.
Oh, it's easy enough.
You just follow the instructions on the New York Times.
What kind of fish you put in there?
This was shrimp.
I still count that as fish, but, but we-
fucking liar.
I know.
How dirty of me.
We do a lot of cods around here.
Cod family.
It's easy.
They sell it in like bulk everywhere.
So it's like and wild caught.
So that's nice.
You can get some cod around here really.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Had some linguine and clam sauce myself, buddy.
Also using the New York Times food app.
See?
Yeah.
Easy enough.
My internal clock is still so fucked.
We're eating dinner after this.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you know what?
Just we're just, we're going to keep that going.
going for a little while longer.
Is it cheese? Are you going back to strictly
to a soft cheese diet
even though you're still here?
I got to tell you one thing that I missed
about the good old US of A
is a good old fashioned
regular degular American
drip coffee.
It's espresso, this, and that
and then an Americano. Maricano.
And it's like great, but
what about a coffee? Coffee?
You know what a cafe?
Oh, and heaven for bed.
you're looking for ice in that fucker, dude.
They'll throw you right out of the fucking country line.
Just just watch it, watch it, watch it.
Dennis Lear is going to come for our ass.
He's going to, he will bust down the door like the Kool-Aid man, and he will come
for all of our asses.
But just a 16-ounce regular coffee that has regularness built into every ounce of it.
I love it.
It was something I admit, I mean, we've all been there at this point, right?
Yeah.
And I, I drank so many fucking Americanos over there.
there. And like, I tried to do, I tried to do the espresso thing. It's just not my thing.
Yeah, exactly. It's not there. I'm not there yet. Well, you mean, you don't like ripping a tiny
glass of coffee and then two minutes later taking the best shittier life? No, no, not quite. I also
don't like feeling my heart like going to full mask. Like, bam, bum, bougham, bapum,
like, I don't need that. I just, you know, coffee is a well-metered experience. It's, it's like,
as if they're like, oh, we don't have beer here. We just have whiskey and we could put water.
too. It's like, well, no, I want a beer, though.
Like, I do like, and I love whiskey quite as
as much, but like, you know, like, let's
just even it out a bit. Well, whiskey
and water don't get you drunk.
Tall glass, a lot of water.
It's just like,
Hey, speaking of tall glasses
of water, should we get into some letter reading here?
I would love to. Oh, by the way, we should say
that Eric is dead, though.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. We're sorry.
we buried him this morning
we did it quickly
I bet
yeah I'll tell you
I bet he fucking wishes
he was dead dude
that guy
if you folks at home
if you've ever seen the movie
the money pay
with Tom Hanks
that's like kind of
what Eric's going through
right now
we feel for the guy
he's dealing with contractors
I just
it seems like an awful business man
a real awful business
home ownership
I feel like he's just
falling through floors
in a bathtub
doing a Tom Hanks
I mean the guy
being nice and laughing in a terrible tragic moment, but Eric did die earlier today.
Yeah, the mask had to fall through the floor, but it fell on him was the thing.
Ben Worcester did a stirring rendition of it's so hard to say goodbye the Boys to Men classic.
Oh, hell yeah.
He brought the house down and we thank Ben for that.
I just stopped crying five minutes ago.
Well, I get that's, you know, me too.
Well, that's, you know, we're pros here on the show, man.
We've been doing this for a long time.
You know, you get on the air, you stop that drip right.
way. That eyeball drip.
It's weakness. You know that?
Everybody can see it.
Hey, before we get into the first
letter, I just want to remind you guys, because you
two, here's some, you know,
forgetful Freddy's out there.
Do you know what we're doing Thursday night?
I don't know what I'm doing
any night. I'm seeing
Killers of the Flower Moon.
That's, that was
my plan. Finally, well, I hope it's a
noon show so you can get back in time to
prep for our
Worldwide digital experience, folks, this Thursday, 9 p.m.
On what do we got there? Moment.com slash we hate movies.
It's another live show we're doing on the internet.
We're going to be talking all about Friday of the 13th, the final chapter.
Can we do a quick?
I want to appreciate this flip a graphic one more time.
Yeah.
So we've got Cabin as Roy, correct?
Yep, that's right.
You are Jason X, I believe, Andrew.
And I'm like,
regular Jason kind of a thing
and then we got Jason 2 for Eric
which is that other that I do that
that's part two yeah I think you might
be I think you might be part
four before Corey Feldman
makes the machete oh god
I got it knock in it I think
that's the case a rest assured
everybody it is not the final
chapter
it is not that
it is not the end of Jason
there's more Jason to deal with
but it is a hell of a movie
it's one of my favorites of this of this set
it feels I mean like I want him
I want him back in my life I want another Jason to look forward to
can it happen well
can we do that ladies and gentlemen
they're always talking about doing it
it's it's been on the fucking burner forever
and they just like you it's the same thing
with Marvel stuff like with certain properties
you're just like you hear it and then like
you get an exciting director or directors to do it
and then all you're like oh they wanted a
go in a different direction.
They had an idea.
Somebody had an idea, so fuck it.
The tinyest ounce of an original idea, and they were like,
absolutely not. Get the hell out of here.
Get it right out of here. Get the fuck out of here,
please. But I'm so excited to
do this. I always love these live virtual
shows, especially when we
have a bit of a dip in touring. It's super fun
to just be able to interact with folks. And there will
be the live Q&A afterwards,
which I always enjoy. That's right.
Yeah. So, like, basically, folks, if you're
unfamiliar, if you're just joining us, maybe for the
first time with one of these digital experiences
worldwide, by the way. It doesn't matter
where you are on this rock. You can check this out.
We do like
a whole other like, I don't know, 45
minutes, hour, bullshitting.
Maybe like, you know,
consuming a cocktail or something.
Oh, yeah. You know, and we answer questions
that you all get to submit
when you buy your pass for the
experience there. So,
pretty fun stuff, I have to say. We love
doing these things. It's very cool
hearing from folks with the questions and everything.
kind of like tonight, we get through these letters
quickly enough. We might answer some cues
from the chat. But so Chris Cabin, you
are our resident mailman
here. Any
particular order that we should start in?
You know, I don't, Steve, why don't you kick
us off here with this one? I will, and I want
to apologize, I can't, I don't know how I said, I might
sound like a cartoon mouse that has a cold
and that is something that has happened.
I just can't. I've had this
like head cold for about nine days.
Entirely, the entire
trip was like, just bare head
cold thing. So it is awful. I think
you do the audience a solid.
No mouth breathing into the microphone.
I don't know if that's possible.
We're going to try. Here we go.
Jason Miller, Scranton's finest.
Ooh. Hi, guys. I'm so excited.
You'll be discussing the Exorcist for
October's WLM, which was
an excellent episode. And I was on that.
We loved it. It was one of my favorite movies of all
time. Oh, yeah.
A lot of Jason Miller talk on that. A lot of
Jason Miller talk.
I wanted I wanted to write in to share some Jason Miller lore.
My friend was Jason Miller's house cleaner here in Scranton.
She described him as kind and down to earth, always a gentleman, and a bit ashamed of his own drinking habits.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he did die of, pretty much die of alcoholism, right?
That's how that works.
Yeah, that's why they also had to like change the ending of that Exorcist 3 because he was in.
Pretty rough shape.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He would specifically request she used the door.
Garbage Cans.
Love the black ones you can't see through
when rounding up and disposing of
his numerous liquor bottles, beer cans,
and what have you. His apartment, she told me,
was home to an overflowing
ashtrays. Love that.
Oh, yeah. Various books and papers
strode around. This sounds like
the last day's Stephen Sannick, by the way.
I'm excited about this. Yeah, totally.
Dude, like, you're not podcasting anymore.
Oh, yeah. You're ashamed of the amount
of booze bottles in the apartment.
You want to be R.D.J. and Zodiac on the boat.
Exactly.
Exactly what you're aiming for.
Yeah, you want to be R.D.J. and Zodiac, but you just cannot get your hands on a houseboat.
It's frustrating you.
That's pretty expensive, dude.
His apartment, she told me over with the ashtrays.
He made a few chosen relics throughout his entertainment career.
She dusted both his Pulitzer Prize and his Tony had won for that championship season.
Wow.
The theater was his true passion.
And upon resettling in Scranton for semi-retirement,
he freely gave his time to community theater projects.
As a result, many of us Scrantonians
have a feel of special connection to Miller.
Remember that great office episode about Jason Miller?
They did.
No, that didn't happen.
That was about to be like, what?
Well, because I stopped watching that show and then like,
it was on another fucking seven years.
In the Ed Helm seasons, you could tell me that Jason,
they did a whole Jason Miller retrospective,
and I'm like, wow, I didn't know that.
Yep.
I would totally believe it.
his choice of his pump choice was farleys where he tipped well and wanted to blend into
the regulars in may of 2001 he actually died in his favorite booth at farlies oh my god
which is sadly now an upscale bodega type thing that serves students of the universe no you
have to make that a monument and it's like farlies exists forever and there's a gold plate
that this is the booth jason miller expired in yeah where is the scrantonian historical
society. This is outrageous.
They beefed it. That's the short answers they beefed it.
This is where BBGBs.
This is terrible. You know why?
Because I think that someone is like, oh, we don't want to, it's kind of sad that he,
I mean, it is sad that he died there, but it's kind of awesome.
You know what I mean? He died in Farley's died where he lived with his buddies.
Exactly, dude. Like, he loved going to Farleys.
He would have been like, like, he crossed over and like turned around like, oh, what
happened? Oh, I died at fucking Farley's. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Good ending to the story.
Yeah.
At least I didn't fall down the Exorcist stairs.
Jesus Christ.
Which, blah, which is now sadly an upscale bodega type thing that serves students of the University of Scranton, a Jesuit school, and his alma mater.
Oh, but actually, my sister went there as well.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Father, could you help an old alter boy?
A bronze bust of Miller was unveiled in downtown Scranton on the courthouse square in 2008.
Okay.
It was sculpted by his good friend, Paul Sorvino.
Oh, what in the fuck?
Hold on.
Dude, a fucking last paragraph
Paul Sorvino's sighting.
You know, this even shit, you know,
he was, as we all know,
he was Farina last year.
And this like, even more so,
this makes me disgusted with the AMPAS.
All right.
And I want to just do a little,
I want to do a little bit of a word,
word document discovery here.
So Paul, so, so, so it's,
Chris Cabin has it was sculpted by his good friend,
comma.
have to go down to a new page. Paul Sorvino, huge shot, right?
Yes.
Who is said to mix some of Miller's ashes and then there's a stop. And I'm like, did he eat those
ashes? I was like, into a soup, into a pasta. No. Is this because it's Paul Sorvino, dude?
Yeah, of course it is. I thought he was funded it with the garlic. He's shaved it so thin. No,
into the bronze, apparently. Yes. Wow. So he's like always in Scrant. Oh, this dude fucking
love Scranton PA, dude.
I don't know what to tell you.
I got to go back.
Jason Miller will always be
iconic Father Karas
and the Exodus fan, but he's also a gifted
playwright and a generous patron of the arts
who loves Scranton for the shitty and wonderful place it is.
sincere thanks for producing
W.H.M. and all this extra Patreon content.
Cheers, Melissa. Thank you, Melissa.
That was a very enlightening
little world
entree to the world of Jason Miller.
Yes. I'll tell you.
I didn't know. I mean the Brevino was so close.
that's great. That's a huge shock
but also I'm still just raw
about Farleys. I know.
At least, all right, at the very
least, and maybe this happened and maybe Melissa
knows something about it.
Maybe someone thought like
as Farley's was getting gutted
or whatever, take out the Miller
booth. Like go put it in Jerry's garage.
Yes. You know, we'll save the Miller
booth just a case someday
three assholes on a podcast are talking
about it and they want to see where Miller
died. You take the Miller booth?
and you open a new place called Father Caruses.
Now we're having a great time.
Yes, are we sort of making money off someone's death?
Sure.
Not the nicest thing.
But maybe, maybe, and I hear me out,
you take some of that profit,
you put it back into these Scranton art institutions
that he loved so much, right?
I mean, not a lot, but.
I mean, you got to cover overhead, you know.
Yeah.
It takes a lot to get me out of bed.
I'm not opening a fucking charity here.
I'm opening a bar.
I also imagine somebody
I mean at least I would
if I was an owner of Farleaves
or like was there when it was getting
you know wrecked for this bodega type structure
I would think you would have the idea
I'm bringing the the Miller booth home with me
I think you need to do that
and I think then but the thing is
it's not going to be a public thing
it's going to be like Roger Rabbit voice and Zodiac
it's going to be in your basement
and you are going to have to happen upon this thing.
It's his little private thing that he had.
But then there's a 1 and 18 chance you get haunted by the Gemini killer.
So that's not cool either.
That's funny you say that.
I just put up a comment here from one of our viewers with a great username,
Big McLarge Huge.
Yes.
That's how you get haunted, pal.
You are right, Mr. McClard, Huge.
You are correct.
I mean, this is, but these are people I think who want to be haunted, really.
I want to be close to every essence that's left of these people.
That's pretty dope, man.
Someone says Paul Sorvino was in the original cast of Miller's play that championship season and the film.
What is?
Everybody knows and loves this but me.
It's like a group of guys who back in the day won the state championship, like now they're older guys.
Oh, Al Bundy, the play.
Essentially, yes.
Just like talking about the old times and shit.
Yeah, like they won the state title and like that.
like, I mean, literally what you're saying, a serious version of Al Bundy.
It won a bunch of fucking awards.
It was huge.
Oh, wow.
I mean, I read it in college and I was like, I mean, it's, it's fine.
Like, it's good, but like, it is exactly what you're saying.
Wasn't there a TV version of it for Showtime when they were doing that for a little while?
Maybe.
Yeah.
But so Vena one is the actual movie.
The Showtime did a lot of those like plays to movies, right?
Yes.
Because they did, wasn't that they did that 12 Angry Men with Jack Lemon?
Yes.
Yeah, 82, the championship season.
Ooh, Bruce Stern and Stacey Keech.
Whoa.
You're talking me into it.
You're talking to me into it.
It's heavy.
Whoa, it's Bruce Stern and Steve, Robert Mitchum as well.
Whoa.
Martin Sheen, Paul Sorvino, and then it kind of drops off.
Because their coach died, they're in town for his funeral, maybe.
Yeah, that's not the matter.
Okay.
I might be wrong on that, but, but it is definitely.
Oh, yeah.
this person here says
Job Mitchon plays coach in the film.
Yeah. I remember it being very
readable in college and like the movie is
really fun. Sorry guys what I was
when I wanted to give about a smuck and some weed.
I was smuck and we're in the locker room, you see.
Hey, speaking of Scranton, a lot of people are talking about the office
in the chat and Juliana says sadly the office is being
rebooted. Is that true? No.
If it is, I don't want it to.
be. I would really rather it not have to help it. Twice was enough. The problem of the office is it's like, oh, you know, it's cool staying at the job that you kind of hate for your entire life. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, oh, no, workers are family. No, they're not. They're nice people. That's cool. But they're, you should go become family. It's okay if you like, but like for this to be your universe is a little weird. You should use that job. You should use that job.
to leverage other better jobs.
That's kind of a good idea, right?
And that's what, when characters try to do that in the show,
the show vilifies them.
It does.
Yes, exactly.
It is a troublesome thing.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Let me move on to the next one here, Chris Cabin.
I guess, go to junior.
I'll do this one.
Go for it.
Hey, W.H.M. Crew.
Longtime listener, first time writer.
I've been working my way through the podcast from oldest to new.
I'm currently at the start of 2021.
It's a good year, good vintage.
But they've been blowing through this podcast then,
because 2021 was just two years ago.
We've been on the air for 13 years.
It's been great tracking the Fall of America as well as that large.
I always wonder about that.
Like, that's got to be slightly horrifying as you, like,
listen to us like drip, drab, current events that are happening while recording things.
Oh, you know, could I put a poll, a flag in the ground here?
because now we are sadly,
and I mean,
capital S, sadly,
Joe Biden to describe
what was going on in Israel,
use the words 15-9-11.
We're aware of this, right?
No.
No, what is?
Is that 15-9-11?
I mean, like, he took,
he's doing our material.
Mr. President.
And I mean, for pure evil, by the way.
but he's doing her material
and it's just like
it's weird
that's unfortunate
Steve you have not talked to us
we have sent the cease and desist already
we're trying to we send it to him and Kamala
just to be careful because I don't know what she's going to
say next she's going to do something
about our
well I can't say
we got to stop that at Prasad
folks that's it he's out there
we got to stop that at Brazad
we got to stop him as soon as sandwichly possible
man. I definitely made that
up too. No, that one's a
Joe Biden original. I was as soon
as sandwichly possible.
You know what? I think actually
Superman would kill Zad. I think
that crack in his neck,
that's a normal to... If I
was Superman, I would want to do that to Zad.
Oh, you might just... Oh, I like
a super... You might call me
President Nerd. That's something I
also made up as well.
Absolutely.
Something's fucking fishy, man.
dude 15 9-11s i mean i don't know i'm sure he's got people on his staff you know he's not writing these
speeches himself i would like to know who's writing these speeches oh and they're all going to
become podcasters eventually that's what happens now every time they leave the fucking white
house and become podcasters so they're listening here and they're getting all their tips
i don't like it i bet you though that 15 that was an edit like i bet there's like a speechwriter
who's a fan of the show he wrote 75 9-11s and so it was like
Looking at the draft and they were like, Greg, 75?
And then they're like, all right, why don't you turn that seven into a one?
15, 9-11s.
That still sounds terrible.
Why does he have to go into a Gary Busey impression in this part?
What exactly is the idea here?
What I will say for my friends in Israel is piss on the Yankees, piss on the Phillies, piss on the Indians.
Wow, the president's Gary Bucy impression sounds exactly like is Holly Hunter?
him. Apparently he's really into Stephen King
adaptation. Apparently he's going nuts for him.
All right. Sorry to derail everything, but
each year just gets progressively worse.
It does indeed. I've noticed a couple of mailbags bringing up people
who are a little too into the Saw franchise.
One listener wrote in about a group of students discussing the positives of
Jigsaw's worldview. There's
Jard Lusa saw experience from my past that I'm so glad I've now remembered.
When I was a junior in high school, a sophomore, I was vaguely aware of, started dating my ex-girlfriend.
Oh, that sucks.
No big deal to me.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But my ex was much less a fan of me than I was of her.
Her new boyfriend took the opportunity to be a tad too support.
of her dislike towards me, at least
from my biased perspective.
Yeah, right, get to the saw part already.
That's, I mean, you're leaving yourself a lot of
exits out the back here, buddy. It's okay.
You don't have to do that. Her boyfriend
was quite the saw fan
to say, all right, here we go.
He wore a puzzle piece
attached to a necklace.
No, he didn't.
Dressed in saw robes
for Halloween,
the robes. To get the actual
I'm not seeing a mask here.
So that I'm a little, I question.
Did this, did Costas Mandelora swoop in and steal this guy's girl?
Is that how this work?
Is Gilmore a guy writing this?
Oh yeah, you're 15.
Yeah, I'd love to pick you up.
Wait, it's got to be the pig mask, right?
Yeah, it would have to be.
But I'm not seeing anything here.
Okay.
Yeah, you're right.
Dress in, dress in sorrowups for Halloween and maybe throughout the year.
Oh, that sucks.
And had a personal blog dedicated.
to Saw.
I mean, I guess it's weird.
Doing disservice that we don't see the
website of this blog. Yeah, I need a link there.
The first Saw came out
when we were in college and not to be, when
we're kind of getting close to getting out of college,
if I'm not mistaken, like 2004-ish.
I guess at high school, that sort of
makes sense. Like, you could have a Saw kid.
You know what I mean? I didn't experience that, but
possibly? I guess.
I mean, I, you know, I think we went
what, as far as like
Matrix kids?
I didn't
see how saw kids.
No, I didn't know.
I mean, I guess if like
you're a young engineer, you could get really
into them.
Finally a horror villain
for us. I mean, it really
is.
The interesting part about his
blog was that it was a collection
of saw traps. He had
created for people he knew.
No.
This
this came to my attention
when my friend noticed an entry about
a guy named Andrew
in a trap
with televisions because his
love of movies took attention
away from his girlfriend
the parallels are astounding
this sucks
not that I know anything about any of this
but this sounds like something that might get
you sent to a psychiatrist before he can go
back to school and you'd have to get a note
signed by that psychiatrist
somebody's got a
somebody's got to
give you the A-O-K to return
to campus. Not that I would
know anything about any of that sort of a thing.
No, no, no. Well, that's only if someone rats.
There comes on you
and tells you about this place. I am pissed
he did not give me a...
Maybe it's still up. Maybe it's still up
somewhere. It didn't take long
to figure out I was the
subject of this entry. I can't remember
the details, but I remember laughing
merrily at the ridiculousness of it all
while reading it at my friend's house.
After that, I couldn't help a smile
any time I caught him brooding in my direction
during our math class.
Man, what a fucking psycho.
You know what?
The TV would go there and then there.
And then you wouldn't be able to escape.
And then the skull crusher would come.
I think I was too busy making my own joke.
So how is the death in this sawtrap?
Do we know it?
The actual death does not get explained.
It's just that the crap itself has a lot of TVs around him.
I see.
Okay.
The actual death implement is not released.
Maybe your eyes burn out.
I don't know.
It was later that I was made aware
that he also kept knives under his bed
and took saw even more seriously
than I had originally thought.
Okay.
Quickly stopped smiling,
gave him a wide berth from then out.
I may have been repeating sophomore math,
but I was no idiot.
Skip to a couple of years later
and I wound up running into him in college.
We ended up sitting by one another
in another math class.
and after a bit of awkward silence
started talking about the game
Dead Space. I do not know what this is
which had come out recently. It's like a
horror sci-fi game from a long
time ago. Okay.
As was our love
of horror movies. We went on to
have a few more classes together.
After that, he turned out to be a pretty cool guy.
I guess, well, more or less
that teenagers are fucking dumb.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, thanks for
shaking this memory loose.
keep doing what you're doing
Andrew from Wisconsin
thank you Andrew
who yeah that's
bone chilling stuff
I didn't have
but Andrew you know
you tell me differently
I don't remember anybody
like getting so into any
franchise that they were like
turning it into their
full personality
can I tell you
this was like when
I was in grade school
and I don't know how long
they kept it up
okay
It had to have been, well, because the one guy didn't go to our grade school.
So this was at least middle school.
Okay.
So the earliest, this was like seventh grade.
Okay.
There were two dudes, met up, became real good buds.
Sure.
And when I tell you, like, nonstop, walked around laughing like Beavis and Budhead.
Oh, no.
Like, nonstop, like walking through the hallway.
Yeah.
And if you had a class with
like the two of them, if there was
like some sort of ententee in play
oh dude, the
the Beavis and Butta chuckling would just come out of nowhere
or if they just like, you know,
heaven forbid it was like a biology class
or something, you know what I mean?
It was fucking brutal and it was years long.
One took Beavis and one took butthead.
Is that my understanding?
Yes, that's correct.
To get the symphony correct.
And it was the one with the brown hair was
butthead.
Oh, yes.
You would have to.
You would have to.
And, you know, the funny thing
was, like, they were both, like,
totally fine dudes from what I remember
with, like, my blues interactions with them
here and there. Like, I don't,
you know, I don't know what happened, you know,
now we're almost 40. I don't know where either of them
are to this day. But there was
a period of at least, like,
you know, at least two school years minimum
we were doing Beavis and Butth. I remember
there was, like, a forming
of a Matrix kid in
my high school. You saw it
blossom dude like a butterfly out of it
no but like he came in
like maybe it wasn't like the weekend after
it was like you know months after maybe the VHS
came out and he came in
and he had the decode
and he had the sunglasses
and he was trying to be stoic
and nobody gave a shit and it like
it was a real like
leaning into something
like maybe I'm this guy
and everyone's like maybe you're nothing
and it was kind of rough
to watch it kind of crash
and burn on the tarmac like that he gave up at some point like one day he just came back in and it was fred yes exactly it was just sort of like okay i'm back to being uh my name which i will not reveal yeah it was just sort of like it was tough it was a real tough one yeah i mean you at that point you at least have to find some girl to like do the lady in the red dress bit with you yeah yeah really stamp at home because it can't just be stoicism people aren't going to attach themselves to that well it was an old boy's school anyway
so it was just sort of like
oh well then what the
you're trying well it's just you try to be cool
and you try to like I guess like
created identity it's like
just leave it alone man you're just
those guys are merciless
don't give them that kind of ammunition
brother don't do it do it
it is reminding me and actually someone
in the chat be man here
says oh of course one of his best
friends was absolutely a Jim Carrey kid
that's rough B man I had one of those growing
up I had a close friend it was
definitely the Jim Carrey kid and like
when I tell you like being at such a young age
and having to realize like what public humiliation feels like
or like public I don't know like secondhand embarrassment
you know and you're just like oh god what a squeamish feeling
and like when when that dude was in like Jim Carrey mode
it could not be stopped and I was just over like on the side like
ha ha ha ha ha yeah I'm not sure if it's the same guy we're talking about here
Andrew but there was a guy who we were all like loosely friends with
who was very much into
big lines
like the lines that were going to be
number one on the quotes page
on IMDB
he no matter
he just wanted to yell them
wherever he was
yeah we're talking about the same guy
okay yeah
because like I do think he he transitioned
he went from like Jim Carrey
and that's your whole thing
to just like pitch lines
like the big lines that's all you do
wherever you go I mean I do remember
and I'm not going to speak out of school
but I think it was some sort of
either a bachelor party that I wasn't at
but apparently he was yelling
in the street
the dark night do you want to know how I got
these scars? Oh that was
this is a 30 year. That was after
a 30 year enterprise of
doing exactly this. Yeah, that was
the St. Patrick's Day after we got kicked
out of a bar for fighting.
That's a story for another day. Yeah, that's
a try that way. Andrew, you
can take the next one if you
want to. Get the old iPad
out here. All right.
real work. Now, real folks is R-E-E-L, you see. Real work.
Yes. They say, long-time listener, I love the show. Thank you so much.
When I was in college, I was a manager at a blockbuster and a shift manager for a local movie theater.
Wow, look at you double-dipping. Both sides of the release slate.
I think I said this multiple times. Always wanted to work a blockbuster. That was just something that I thought I would do a video store thing.
Yeah, I wanted to do that thing. It just never happened. No.
because Randy was my guy in Scream
that's what started at all.
Oh, that's so cool.
And I mean, like,
I'd probably still be managing a block bus.
I'd be the guy in Alaska managing the block bus.
Oh, man.
I wish.
Maybe that's not the greatest idea.
Please don't close me.
It was a tiny six screen theater in our small town,
but I absolutely loved it.
Hell yeah.
Those are the theaters that need the most love.
I was a projectionist and would spend my many Thursdays
attaching reels together and then watching the new movie.
after the theater closed.
Yep.
That was great.
That was the best days.
Oh, those were like,
it was the fucking golden age, man.
You know,
you had free reign of a movie theater.
Like,
you were entrusted with, like,
operating a movie theater and, like,
making the movies go.
Like, it was insane.
Let's see.
Sneaking my wife and friends
into the theater to preview movies was a blast.
We brought our friends in all the time.
Sometimes too many at the same time.
Yeah, it will happen.
We did get in trouble a few times.
I typically worked the late night shift on Thursday
putting reels together doing regular screenings.
One night I clocked out to go to class around 9 a.m. that morning.
I'd been up all night building and previewing sex in the city
and Indiana Jones in the kingdom of the crystal skull.
Wow.
What a lot of the crystal skull.
Sex and the crystal skull.
Is that what was the Barbie Ombaheimper?
Yeah, that would be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Someone's having sex with a crystal skull.
but the problem is neither of them are any good
so that's kind of a tough six hours of movies
different kind of bombs brutal brutal
everything was attached correctly
trailers manually added and the splices
were perfect and ready to go for opening that day
that evening I got a call from one of our snack bar operators
in a panic
as she screamed into the phone
something had happened at the movie theater
and she didn't know what to do and couldn't get a hold
of the general manager
It's fucked up.
I left the house and drove up to the theater to find 200 women.
200 women.
200 women standing in our lobby, furious.
Uh-oh.
Our projections for the evening, a projectionist for the evening,
forgot to turn the real plates on correctly.
As sex in the city opened for its first showing,
it sprawled across the floor and melted several,
feet of film in the projector.
Wow. Yep, been there.
I ran upstairs to try
to salvage what I could, but
it would not happen that evening.
Oh, no. Man.
We ended up losing about three minutes of the movie.
That's fine. Sure.
And most of the reels had
to be reattached.
I was asked to announce to the crowd
the update. After looking
around the room, I politely declined
and went upstairs to the projection booth
to start fixing the problem.
Look, I, you know, I've seen Sean of the Dead.
I see what happens when the guys go out of the, I don't want to be the guy who gets pulled out
the window.
Because I mean, you know, Barbie was a big one.
But I mean, Sex and the City was also a big one.
I'm sure these ladies had like movie, like, it was a whole movie night.
We're going to get espresso baritini or after or both.
Dude, absolutely.
I tell the story actually on tomorrow's episode on The Purge.
I tell the story of me and Eric going to see the strangers.
and there was a bunch of sex
of the city people in that movie.
It was a moment to be alive.
That's right.
Let's see.
Yeah, okay.
So we were the closest theater
for the next 50 miles
and most shows were sold out.
Yikes.
So the shift manager on duty
had to explain to these 200 women
they would not be able to watch the movie
that evening.
All we could do was issue refunds
and rainy day certificates.
It was chaos.
Needless to say, the throngs of pink-clad women were in an uproar.
There was screaming, tears, chewing out, and popcorn thrown in fury.
Yeah, that's it.
Eat shit, kid.
Yeah.
Get fucked.
Get a gobb stopper right in the eye, right there.
Through our upstairs projection room, I could hear the yelling.
It was an absolute nightmare.
some of you have experience in theater work have you ever had a real completely mess up on you or had to dismiss an entire theater full of people because of an error thanks for all the great shows you guys are great and a bright spot in my week i appreciate all the laughs josh in oklahoma um yeah well i was the only one who was a projection yes chris you were uh floor man you were i was downstairs so i would have seen the mighty
crowd, anger. I do remember
I don't know
if you were a projectionist at the time
Andrew, but I do remember a
being there when
how the Ron Howard, how
the Grinch stole Christmas.
One showing of that that was sold out
completely bricked.
Oh, yeah. And I
remember that theater, just the lobby
filling and filling
in like sprawling. It was huge
lobby. If you got out into the actual
main thing and people were fucking
everywhere. That was
I
came in to work in New Year's
Eve and came in at
like five something
and so those were like
people would like go to like a
five o'clock movie then you have
like your you know 730, 8 o'clock
dinner and then you go do New Year's Eve stuff
so it was always like kind of a busy
set of shows and that's when I came in
to start and it was like the start
of a movie like as I was walking in
a co-worker was walking out
out. And he just looked at me and said, have fun, just like that fucking rundown movie.
Nice.
Arnold says that. Hey, have fun.
Yeah, right? This kid says this to me and leaves the building, like, kind of smirking.
And I was like, oh, that's weird. And then I see, like, this crowd of people forming by the concession stand.
There's a windmill on fire in the distance.
It's a bunch of people tied to steak.
Yeah. Yeah. But, no, so it was a bunch of people that had come to see castaway.
And they're just, you know, yada, yada projection problem.
And it was going to take some time so they had to cancel the show.
Now, I don't know what like huge horrible thing happened to these people's print in the, in the letter that they had to cancel all shows for the evening.
Like I can see canceling one, maybe two, I don't know, whatever.
I guess they had their own problems.
But so this thing was, you know, it was canceled.
And if you recall, the film and Castaway, that like prime audience is like.
like what were at the time
like middle age boomer people
oh sure so break out
the fucking entitlement cards
these people were like screaming
in the lobby and it was like
where's the manager and this person was like
he's upstairs trying to you know fix the projector
which the dude was and I was like on my way
to help him and as I the door
is closing so it's like a door
from the concession stand and then there was like
the office but then there was a staircase
that went up to the booth so
that's where I'm like making my way
when I just hear like
oh well if he's up there
I'm gonna go up there
and have a talk with him
and I was like uh oh
and I slammed the door closed
and like it was such a small
little like square of space
that even me at only 510
I could stick my leg out
and press it against the wall
so I was like holding the door closed
with my foot
like speaking of fucking zombies dude
yeah like
did an arm get caught in the doorway
I wish I mean
literally trying to like bang down the door and finally like they stopped and all these like
people had to be refunded and everything or I think they just yeah they just give you like a
pass to come back but like it was the most outrageous like how dare you ruin our New Year's Eve and
it's like dial it back it's the fucking Tom Hanks volleyball movie like please could I uh jump in with a
pretty out of left field Paris story though but it's it's it's about entitled boomers really
eating shit, which I love so much. Oh, yes. Do it up, dude. So we went to
the Louvre in Paris, a big, famous museum, lovely
all-day experience. But it's a pretty long line. You know what I mean?
We went on Monday, you know, and this is even after there was a bomb scare,
the Louvre got evacuated a couple days before that. And even so,
your plan didn't even work. Exactly. Sadly. But
so there's two lines. There's the regular line and my good friend, Andrew
who had just been to Paris two to three years earlier.
But dude, get a museum pass.
You can, you know, it's a different line.
It's a much quicker line.
Get the museum pass.
We get the museum pass.
Thanks for that.
So we're on the quicker line.
But even still, it's about a half hour.
You know what I mean?
It's a prime day.
It's beautiful October Paris thing.
And there's a family in front of us.
And, you know, they're, I guess they're like Salt Lake City American.
You know what I mean?
They're very nice, all American, two boy and a girl and a mom.
and a dad.
Like just flat
speaking accent.
Incredibly nice.
And like we were taking
nothing.
Taking cute pictures and like
oh I'm holding the Louvre.
No,
now I'm holding the Louvre.
I'm getting fucking
a little.
But.
Sweet.
And this is something
if you,
if anyone right now,
if you Google
Louve right now,
the top,
one of the promoted ads
you'll get,
which is absolutely fake,
is something called
skip the line ticket.
So you could bake as fuck.
It is. So they're in front of us
and we're right behind and again we're waiting
about 35 minutes, you know, not the end of the world,
but a longish time. And the line's really
pack it up behind us too. It's now
probably 45 to an hour.
And this old lady comes up
and cuts in front of the dude,
the dad.
Whoa. And like
drop dead.
And she's like, I'm sorry, I have skip the line tickets.
And he's like, what do you have?
And she's like, no, it's, it's skip the line tickets.
If there's your tickets, you can skip the line.
And he's like, I don't know what that is.
And it was one of these things where I was getting nervous because if this guy,
that's why I mentioned the Mormonness of it, because I was nervous that this guy was
going to fall for it and let this lady in.
Oh, sure.
You know what I mean?
Wallet inspector.
Exactly.
but she's like oh no I have skipped the line tickets
and he's like I don't know what that is
and he's like well how much did you pay for your tickets
it's like oh 25 bucks or whatever
he's like well I paid 82 euros
these are skipped the line tickets
and he's like and he's like all right you know ma'am
why do you just talk to the person
over there the the the ticket taker
we're about to see and she's just like
I don't know what that is what she's
no these are skip the line tickets
these people have been waiting
you have to let them through you have to
and I watched this woman
go to every different ticket person
trying to be skip the line
and she just got fucked
for 80 euros
and I guarantee you her ass
with all the way to the back of that line
Oh that kid so much ass
And now the joke between my wife and I was
Oh well I can just skip that I have the ticket
That's skip that it's like
What a fucking fleece that is
And I guarantee look Google the Louvre right now
You will find the top
one of the top links you will see says skip the line, which is such a
fucking scam.
It's great.
It's all over, baby.
Although, that's awful.
You got to watch it with that stuff on the top hits is every time.
Anytime that they're telling you, you can skip some major thing, especially when
you're international stuff.
Yeah.
Just do not do it.
You're not skipping shit.
You're not skipping a goddamn step.
Wait for the fucking Eiffel Tower.
Just wait for it.
Stop.
And it was just so satisfying for me.
to like she just like
but the line is skipping
and I'm like no I'm going to the Louvre
and you are not and it just felt so
good but I followed
the link through Facebook
8 euros on nothing
I love it
that fucking rules hey you know where
you're not going to have to wait in any lines
legitimately please this Thursday
night when we have our
worldwide digital experience
folks talking Friday the 13th
the final chapter, which is indeed
the fourth one. It's Mr. Corey Felddog
himself. Love that guy. The final chapter, there's
only seven more to go after that. It's not a big deal.
It's really a halfway point. Maybe a third
in, I don't even know. I think it's closer to a third. But
had it been the last though, they would have gone
out on a series high. It would have been the best one.
Great, great movie. One of my favorites.
You know, I was looking up though, because I did the
cut the ad there and I put the Alice Cooper tune in,
but that's from the sixth movie.
The fourth movie, man, I was looking at the song's garbage.
Oh, really?
Just like totally forgotten metal.
Like, not even like docking or rat.
Just like sub rat.
We hadn't really arrived at the, I mean, that six is closer to when we are really
bolstering soundtracks as the go alongs to these movies, movie experiences.
I don't know.
Like, whenever Top Gun happened, it was like around then, I feel was when we really were like,
do it all the time.
Do it all the, every, every fucking movie was out.
Yeah.
Just get a soundtrack that fucking bangs.
That's what we need.
There's, I think, um,
there's one Iron Maiden song on it,
but it's not even a good one really.
Or it's original or is it, uh,
from an album?
Uh,
it's 22 Acacia Avenue,
which I think is from an album is,
okay, well, then fuck that.
No, that's,
well, fuck that, huh?
No, fuck that.
Like, if, if it's not an original piece,
yeah, that's the real,
like, Alice Cooper wrote that stupid ass song for that stupid ass movie.
and it's great.
One of my favorite
music inspired
by the movie
is the Puff Daddy
Jimmy Page joint
on the Godzilla soundtrack
Come with me?
Oh boy.
If you are a little fat kid
in yellow sunglasses
thinking your heart in the Bronx
that'll pump you right up.
That'll pump you right up.
Well, that whole soundtrack,
you remember.
I mean, like,
raging at the machine had a B-side
on that record.
They sure did.
And Ben Fould's had some, like, soft piano ballad.
It was Godzilla, man.
All music, welcome.
Let's bring it all in.
He's Godzilla and he's breaking slowly.
Kick in buildings and needing people.
But what I loved about the Puff Daddy song was,
I think he wrote that song from the, from the perspective of Godzile.
if I'm not mistaken.
He's genius.
He's the leader.
He's the leader that we need now.
Yes.
And that is Greg Buffuto.
That is where the
Wallflowers covered
heroes from Bowie.
Oh, yep.
I remember the video for both
of those was, weren't they like
separate, we're in a bombed out
building that Godzilla just fucked up?
Which is amazing for the Wallflowers because
it really, they should have been a
one-hit wonder, if not for that
cover being huge for some reason
one headlight was a massive single though
that song for sure yeah yeah are we
excuse me are we paping over three marlanas
yeah of course we are it's a great song I'm fucking tired
of it all right of those singles shut the fuck up
someone just used a word that I haven't seen the long time
you remember cassingle I do not
oh it was like a cassette single oh yes of course
it's just I love a good portmanteau
but yeah I had a couple of
Casingles back in the day. I had a
single for Mbop the Hanson song
Oh really? Oh yeah
I think there's one more letter Chris
Right yeah I could do it
Or if somebody else you go ahead sure
This is hand panic
Sounds like something I don't want to read
Hey gang during your American Pie 2 episode
When Jim super glues himself to his dick
Like a fucking idiot
Andrew says it's not diffusing a bomb
It's fucking lube I don't
understand this. Here's my
story of how I got
to a similar lubricated fuck up.
Oh, no, dude, this is a thing
where I made fun of a thing and then it turned
out to be a real thing. Yeah, that's sad.
First off, I grew up watching the
hell out of American Pie 2. Well, first of all,
then how did you get to a similar problem?
My question is.
Do you really think it's in printing lessons while he's
watching American Pie 2? I'm taking this all in.
I'm just, you know, this is all. Nothing.
By the way, just got to jump in.
really quick here. Say a big thanks to
goat malp here for
his, he kicked in a couple of
shackles on the feed here. Five bucks Canadian
jumps in to say, Sex and
the City too failed at their
multiplex and ended up giving
these hard people to passes full
refund food voucher and escorted to the next
Eve show. Yeah, I mean, that's a, just
whatever you can do to like as fast
as possible, get those people
away from you.
Like, however much free stuff
they want, you give it to them. But
thanks for kicking in, Goat Melp.
I lost my place somehow.
First of all, I grew up watching
The Hell Out of America, too, was one of the first VHS
I owned as a teen second. I'm Canadian. I was speaking to Canadians.
So I'm sorry if my college terms are different
than American ones. Don't worry, we'll make fun of them no matter
what. During my first week of
University, oh, where did you go to? This guy
go to Saltburn pretty soon? I don't know.
He's going to university.
The talent in Mr. Saltburn.
Ooh, that sounds like a fun short story.
I wonder if those boys are going to kiss at the end of Saltburn.
We'll find out.
We'll see.
We shall find out.
During my first week of university, during orientation, on the residence floor,
we got small kits with maps, event infuration, and other various small things for our freshman experience.
In this kit, with some hand sanitizer in a tube.
Uh-oh.
Oh.
The brand of hand sanitizer was in capitals.
quickie with a k k w i kw i k y k y quickie quickie i would not allow that into my
dorm file i would not be allowing that hey chris what'd you do with the bottle of quickie man
hurt the fuck out it's disgusting uh our resident advisor gave us a heads up that this is not loob
please don't use it as such that makes me feel like there was a guy last season that got
a little a little bit of trouble as well oh yeah there was an incident at some point because
something happened that made us
have to tell you that.
I made a crack about American Pite 2
and the scene in it that made people laugh.
Okay, good for you, dude, you got to laugh.
There were, oh God, sorry, stupid sky.
There was a sex ed health fair
sometime later in the week as well,
where they were handing out small personal lubricants
in tubes. Nice.
Weeks later, my roommate is finally
out of the dorm and I'm bored one night.
I'm
I'm going to take a
consume a beer here
because I'm just going to
need some courage
Sure
Yeah yeah
It gets a little crazy here
This was funny
I have always been a dry guy
Yeah
Yeah
And you know
And you're
I'm there
I'm right there with you brother
Yeah absolutely dude
You got to hang loose
With that shit
Well I was
I'm always a shy guy
You see I wear a red cloak
And a little mask over it
And I jack off in that
You spit bullets at the
mirror while you jerk off. Exactly.
Oh, God. I've always
been a dry guy, but
University of the time of experiment, it was dark
and the tubes were the exact same size.
Within seconds, I realized
I had fucked up harder than I ever fucked up
in my life before. It burned, oh my God, how it
burned. I had to wash it out.
Of course.
Unfortunately, the shower in my quad, due to my drunken
quadmate, was broken and I couldn't
get an angle with the sink.
Yeah, that's a problem right there.
Yeah, this is a Jim
Levins. Dude, if you were to dry
guy before, you were a dry guy now, my
friend. Yeah, absolutely.
For life. Yep, let me put
some fucking mittens on here, man.
The only
shower
quite a break in the sink. The only shower
on my floor that would not involve knocking
on a door was in the women's washroom.
I checked the hallways and stuck in
like solid snake with a
blaming your reason.
To get myself into a shower
salt. To be fair, this is not something
solid snake would find himself into.
Solid snake knows a bottle
of lube when solid snake's holding the bottle
of lube. You know what I'm saying?
But if there ever was a dry guy,
he ain't going
playing with that stuff. Give me a break.
Why would I need a spit shine?
Snake, snake, that's
hand sanitizer. Snake,
snake, snake.
Jerking off for a solid snake,
is like a once every five years thing.
He rents a room, I think.
I think it's a whole night.
It's a big one.
Going away for the annual, you know.
Night to myself, finally.
But I still have my friends in my earpiece.
So yeah, it's kind of, I get off on that.
I'll be honest with you.
It's one night of year I get off on that.
I checked into the hallway.
It's not getting like solid snake with a flaming uatherer and got myself into a shower stall.
as I was cleaning myself
of the pain and shame
other people walked into the room
of course they did
and I had extra time
in the stall to
and I had extra time
to spend in the stall
to ensure no one saw me
so you gotta hang out in the stall
yep exactly
I was able to escape unnoticed
and the whole incident
without public humiliation
and the whole incident
without public humiliation
and it has been a great shame
to this day
I knew the American pie lore
in it out and I still almost
don't say almost
you pulled the gym
yeah the only difference
was like nobody else saw it, but like
you were doing a gym thing, absolutely.
I have been
here comes not a surprise to anybody.
I have been a dry guy
ever since.
Oh yeah.
Yep. Thanks for the last of the years.
I can't wait for you guys to come back to Toronto.
I'd love to, by the way, signed
don't read my name on the air.
Well, of course.
Yeah. Wow.
No. A dry guy.
Yeah. I didn't even have to have
I didn't even have to have the trauma to become a dry guy.
I've been a dry guy in the early days.
This is not something you have to learn necessarily.
It's just, you know, it's personal opinion.
Like that's I understand.
Some people like, you know, they want to put a swimming pool down there before they play.
But I am not there.
Holy crap.
Oh, boy, oh boy.
How about some questions from the audience?
Yes.
Let's do some cues before Chris Kavan gets more into it.
where it's more comfortable.
I'm sorry, but my records are sealed.
I would love to reveal them,
but there's just a couple of different lawsuits
that I just cannot.
The audience knows a wet guy when they see one.
That's true.
It's fine. It's don't worry about it.
Yep, absolutely.
So we do,
another question from Goat Malp comes in.
Grace Papaya, good as everyone says.
Apparently goat malp has never gone farther north than New Jersey.
I don't think so
I don't I've never really gotten
Grace Papaya aside for the price
Like it's good
Like it's totally good
It's not something that is like
A New York staple
And or something that like
Is like a hot dog that will change your opinion of hot dogs
It's just a hot dog
You know what I mean
Very good hot dog
I mean it's
I would say the older the better
You got to find the oldest possible
Grace Papaya
That's the one that you're going to want to go to
and try.
You want all that
oil to have built up
over the years.
You want Giuliani oil
in your hot dog.
Juliana era oil.
You know,
I say both.
I say both.
You know what?
You're going to squeeze me
and drain me out
into the papaya grease.
I will say,
it's better than a dirty water dog
for sure,
like a guy on the car to the street.
Card dog.
Yeah.
I was actually the best hot dog
in the city,
a little known thing.
If you go to Grand Central
down, go to Grand Central, go on the, go under, uh, the underpass there where all the like
Metro North trains are, like, uh, they go into Westchester. This place called Frankies. Yeah.
Really, really good hot dogs. Like, it's a very good. It's a good, like, thick skinned hot dog,
if you know what I'm talking about? You know what I mean? Like, it's got a good bite to it,
which I want, I want a thick case. I'll tell you what. Yes, exactly. Yep. Um, it's, it's a hot
dog that could get that could withstand some emotional abuse. You know what I mean?
That's what I'm looking for.
A thick-skinned hot dog.
Here's, like, I think the perfect example of, like, just how they're fine.
So a few weeks back when I went to a late screening of Stop Making Sense,
I walked past, so I was walking downtown, and I walked past 70 Second Street
where the famous Grace Papaya from, like, Die Hard with the Vengeance and a bunch of other movies over the years,
like, that one.
And I was like, ooh, after the movie, I'm,
going to walk back get myself one of them hot dogs movie gets out it's 1030 movie you know winds up
getting out like around midnight or so and i'm walking back and the hot dog stand was closed
and i'd been thinking about this like the whole screening you know but i was just kind of like yeah
right like i wasn't yeah yeah because like that's the kind of level yeah yeah that's fine
that's all the lights are off that's fine that's sad that like to think that like because i i guess it's just
because I'm used to the
IFC center
at Grace Papaya.
That thing was open
like almost all
a fucking night.
Yeah.
Yes.
And I remember
there's less like wasted,
there's less like wasted
college students
on the Upper West Side.
Yes.
In that,
you know,
around like the West 70s,
you know.
Yeah.
So,
yeah,
there's so,
dude,
you get us talking about
fucking hot dogs.
It's what I mean.
It's what I mean.
All right.
Let's see.
So,
well,
this is directed at me,
but I think it could be
for all of us.
Are we excited
about the
new Meg Ryan, David Do Coveney, Romcom.
What happens later?
You're definitely going to see it.
Yeah, well, my man, do you do Covenny?
That's why I watched that terrible
bloodlines. My dude's getting
to work this year, huh? That's cool.
Yeah, no, this is, it's a romcom, Meg Ryan
directed it, maybe co-wrote it.
I don't know, the trailer looks okay.
It looks like they're doing
like a weird thing.
Like, there's some sort of, something magical,
maybe?
Or it's just, I don't know, magical
so much, but just like a device in
which the movie, like,
they appear to just kind of be like stuck
in this place and there's like no one there.
I don't know. The trail, if you watch the trailer,
you'll know what I mean. It's very weird.
It looks a weird vibe. It looks
unsettlingly like the
Winona Ryder, Keanu Reeves.
Oh, God.
A destination wedding thing. It seems
very much of that style of like,
we've got them. We've locked them down.
Wait, is Meg Ryan directing this?
too. She directed it. Yeah. So
they just locked down the
she got the one name that would
come in for this and like they just
did that and it was just them and they
hope that's enough to bring people in. I guess
because Meg Ryan's heat is
like she's back.
Oh is she? I guess that's what she's announced.
I guess this movie's supposed to do.
Got it. It's announced that she's back but like
it's not a big title for that.
Destination wedding was
something that should have been 45 minutes and they had to
make it 90 minutes to be a movie.
You know what I mean?
Like it should have just been like a what shit on something.
Yeah, like a Max thing.
Like what did it once.
You know what I mean?
You like watching them to get.
They have good chemistry,
but then it's like 90 minutes of that,
not so much.
Yeah, exactly.
Andrew,
if you ever want to be broken completely
of your David DeKovny thing,
you just watched that Judd Apatow the bubble.
Oh, sure.
If you have ever hated a Judd app,
you don't know.
how much you hate a Judd-Apital movie.
It is one of the worst things I have ever
I heard nothing but bad
about that.
Man, that one sucked.
Yeah.
So yeah, you know, I'll check it out, sure.
Let's see.
Kind of a broad question.
Kevin asks, what's your go-to
Halloween season watch?
You know, to do something new, I will say.
I've been enjoying, but not loving
the house
fall of the house
to usher.
I'm only two in.
We're about four in.
It's it's campier than
Midnight Mass,
which I think is a good thing
because it's,
it's,
I think I find Mike Flanning
and hit and miss.
I think this is closer.
It's not a miss
because I think he knows what he's doing.
But you know what I mean?
Like I think Midnight's mass
is kind of perfect.
You know what I mean?
Like I think this is a little sillier
on the side.
You know what I mean?
Like there's a,
the succession thing.
It's hawkier.
The succession thing is the real problem.
It is. Yeah, I think that's the biggest issue.
And, like, the what, I wouldn't even really care about that, if not for the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,
rip off shiv character.
Yes.
Like that one specifically, I was just like, this is too close.
You went with, I understand you want to do like a response to success.
I get that.
I get how you're framing it, but like, oh, you tell the character that's his, his wife in real
life? No, no, no, no. His wife in real life is the PR
character's name. She's the one that has the husband that's
like the beef cake model guy and like there's
something going on with like, oh yeah, bringing people home for sex
kind of a situation. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm only
two in, so I'm still like, there's a shit ton of characters.
It is. And I mean, it's, it's, I'm having fun with it. It's spooky
and the kills are pretty good. You know what I mean? Like,
the way that they're structuring it, it's like every episode
someone there's going to be a pretty big kill
and so far those have not let me down
they're pretty fucking awesome and very
the one at the end of the second episode
I was like you got me
you hot dog
did not see that coming
I've been having fun with that for Halloween stuff
as an FYI I mean I think that is
I actually kind of like it more than
I like the silliness like I think
it's up there with Haunted Hill
those this one I like talking about are the two
that I like the most by him
Midnight Mass is good.
I just, I do think I kind of got tired of the seriousness of it.
It got a little too grim for me.
Sure.
Hill House is the last one that like really scared the shit out of me.
Yeah.
And I like, I mean, Blind Manor, I guess kind of.
And like Midnight Mass, that's not really the intention.
But I was hoping this would kind of bring back some of that.
It doesn't.
I mean, it sort of does some of the stuff with like Bruce Greenwood and this insurance guy and like, you know, what you see behind him and whatever.
the great carlumbie
oh man manthus
manniz
oh shit
but I agree
it's not quite a scary
and the problem
with Hillhouse
and I'm curious
how this is going to all end
the Hillhouse
really pulled back
the punch at the end
like there should have been a punch
because it's a horror story
and it should be like terrifying
like oh no
but it's like oh no
it's kind of nice to be a ghost
I'm like is it though
it seems pretty horrific
it didn't look like that
in the other nine episodes
exactly at the end it's like
now we're dancing, having fun.
I was like, no, no, no.
Yeah.
I mean, I've been doing a lot of, I try to watch,
I try to make a time to really watch a lot of new stuff every October season.
Like, yeah, I've been going, I, I, I took a while to get into Italian Horde, Jallo.
I went through Fulci last year.
I've been going through, I think he's French.
John Rowland
a bit this year.
I've also been doing the thing
I've been putting off
four years.
I am finally trying to watch
some Kaufman-Hurz
trauma films.
Oh, wow.
I finally watched
Combat Shock the other night,
which is nuts.
And I watched Black Roses today.
Oh, that's a cool movie.
It is pretty cool.
I like the effects.
Like the makeup stuff
is really cool in that movie.
they're better than I imagined
at least back in the 80s and early 90s they were
I don't know where I'm going to go from there
but I've been enjoying it
I also watched
I forget the name of the director
but a movie called Angel Dust from 1994
really fucking good if you can get a
hold of it
you know interestingly
we were sort of talking about this I think the last time
you guys were over about how Flanagan's thing
is like the Stephen King
Castle Rock show where it's like
the world of Poe, the world of Stephen King.
There's another one of those floating around.
You're going to think I'm fucking crazy.
But on Hulu, and I think they're also
dumping it on Disney Plus like the next day
too or whatever, this new
Goosebum show that's out with Justin Long
and some other phone. I've seen trailers of it.
Okay. It's way better
than it has any business being. I don't think it's
excellent. It's like
it's a more adult Y.A.
Like there's definitely, you know, like
Rob Hewbel plays a
dude who's, like, cheating on his wife.
So it's like that level of stuff that's in it.
So it's not like, it's not kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was confusing because all of the episode,
there was a bunch already out and all of the episode titles are just like titles
of Goosebump's books.
So I had no idea what the show was.
And I was like, oh, cool.
They just did more like an updated anthology goosebumps thing.
And so I said to Chelsea, I was like, you know, do you mind if I watch some of these?
Do you have any interest?
And we went through and it was like, oh, I like, oh,
I like that one. Don't watch that one. You can watch that one, whatever. And then I wound up not doing it. And so then, like, a few days later, we started watching it. And I was like, made a second, this is like 47 minutes long and we're in like minute 39. They're not wrapping this up. What the hell's going on? And then I was like, oh, it's this long thing. And it's like a town where like goose bumps things are all happening. Okay. So there's like the say cheese and die camera. There's like the haunted mask. There's the. There's the.
eat worm story.
All of those elements are like in this
larger story that's kind of like a
Freddie Kruger thing where it's like
the adults in the town like all these like
Gen X kind of parents and whatever
it somehow led to like a kid's death
in their class and now all these years later
like his ghost Freddy Krueger-esque
is like haunting their kids.
I would totally recommend it.
Like it's not hardcore horror or anything.
It's very light like popcorny and whatever.
But, like, if you have, you know, if you got little kids around or whatever, like, you would, you yourself as an adult would not be bored watching this Goopsum show.
And then he got Justin Long doing a lot of, like, physical comedy and shit.
You know, he's good at that.
So, we'd totally recommend that.
Do some more here.
Quick answer on this one.
When is the Societymentary dropping?
Well, I can tell you right now, that's going to drop this Friday on Patreon.com slash we hate movies.
Q seed that bad boy
a couple days ago
and I gotta say
pretty entertaining stuff
I love that
this
yeah you can hear Steve
like in real time
gets super nervous
and like what's great
and you know
you'll notice it on the track
every time something happens
that makes Steve uncomfortable
Steve this is what you do
you just go there it is
I was waiting for it
yes
yeah of course I'm like I know
it's been like that
like, you know, society.
It's the movie that has all that stuff in it.
And I don't know what that stuff necessarily is.
Right.
I've been sort of back from it.
Now I'm like, well, now I got to go.
Now you're in it. Now you got to jump out of the pool.
Uh-huh.
I think you were a little covering up a little bit the fact.
Because, I mean, you are, we know you're a wet guy.
Oh, yeah.
You were at home in much of the latter half of the movie.
Uh, let's see.
year. Ryan asks any theme months coming up because
they loved April. We got We Love
Movies coming up next month. That's exciting. Yes. That's where we
turn the show on its head. All of November's
prime slots on Tuesdays, those are going to be we love movies episodes. And
then on the Patreon, there'll be a special We Hate Movies episode
that only the patrons will get. Which we really, really hate. And we're doing
that this week and it's two hours of 20.
six minutes. No.
Yeah, I checked it when I went
out today and I was like, come on, man.
I regret this immediately.
This will be fun.
But so our buddy Boussiris asks, what
are some of our favorite autumn drinks?
Well, right here, if you don't mind,
it's the Sam Adams
October Fest. I really enjoy this one.
Oh, nice. I was just drinking
six points got a good pumpkin one.
knocked back like four
of those on Sunday
also because it was our
like wedding cocktail
the stone fence
bourbon and apple cider
those were very good
I'm a big mold cider guy
oh nice
I had a bunch of this weekend
I can't wait to get more
I'll be interested in
our answers for this one
Daniel asks if we're candy corn fans
no I mean I'm
No, I can't.
When I was younger, I was all about candy corn.
I've since fallen off.
I look at candy corn and I'm like, I need more from a candy.
Okay, Steve, but you're leading me right to my point.
Candy corn is not good.
What is good is candy pumpkins.
The pumpkins are good.
I'm not a pan of chunky guy.
Yeah.
It's the same.
It's like a marsapani type texture kind of thing.
Are you eating fucking circus peanuts, dude?
Is that what we're doing to?
Oh, no.
Oh, okay.
those are
if you're not
currently living through the dust
bowl
you can't eat those
like candy has progressed
am I living with leather face
and his grandfather
Stephen of course not
I'm not doing that
so I wouldn't need fucking circus peanuts
okay just check it just check it
uh
all right let's see
if this I
don't know where the
poster men podcast is getting their
information did the Alamo draft
has his clothes in New York
like I heard. No.
I thought I heard of.
I don't know what your older brother has been telling you, but no, that's not.
Let's see.
Oh, this is a good one.
Chelsea and I've been going through some of these.
Best Tree House of Horror segments.
I think, because I do the same thing.
And I feel like, I'm actually just finished today, the shining, you know, going through in order.
Yeah.
I really think the devil and Homer Simpson might be my favorite.
It is.
It's so good.
good. I love this chair
be high, says I.
And a lie that is just in my brain
for no reason is Richard Nixon being like,
you got married in the emergency room.
I don't know why
his like sincere
distress about that really
gets me, really, really gets me.
It's, oh, fuck, yeah, that is a good one.
I have to say, I really like
the,
what is it,
Bart Simpson's Dracula?
Yes, yeah.
Is that where they just do the
the Coppola. I really like that. I like how
it ends like with
a Lost Boys
you know joke which is fucking great and so
much in it is just
fantastic like just
it's like wall to wall jokes and like some
good what the Simpsons used
to be good at. I don't know much about it
these days but like good visual gags in the animation
Mr. Burns invited us
to his country home in
Pennsylvania
I'm always
very partial to the
one where the
teachers are eating the students.
Yes. I really love
it. It's so dark.
It is such a dark one. Incredible.
And like the little jokes like you were
saying, Andrew, like
Krabopal doing that little like hiccup
before she like
almost throwing up a little bit because
she just ate gooter.
And like stuff like that is just so
funny to me. I also love
Fred
Fred Kruger.
Freddie Krueger one with
really yeah yeah I love that one that's
I mean that's got the great lousy smart weather
like we were we were there to have a meeting
about the misprinted calendars
we purchased lousy smart weather right after it
like the joke of them
the school using the fucking bad calendar
is so good that and I don't like the idea
of Millhouse eating two spaghetti dinners
in one day while a man is burning to death
love it the way the way they animate
Willie like sitting down just patiently wait
Oh, my God, it's great.
Obviously, that could go on for hours.
Here's one here.
I guess it's directed at Chris
because he is the Michael Mann expert, apparently.
This person has a friend who's never seen a single Michael
Man movie.
They're going to show them heat first,
but what's the one that would make a good follow-up?
I would say, it depends on your friend.
But the two choices I would go to
are either Manhunter.
Yes, that's what I might.
Manhunter would be a big one.
I, but just because I think it's a perfect movie
and like people who see Heat are just like,
that is a thing onto it.
It is such an unbelievable piece of work.
But his, my favorite movie of his is the insider.
And like, everybody you show that to is like,
what the fuck?
How did he do this?
And like, it's incredible.
To this day, that movie knocks me out.
I do think that, I think you're right.
I think, and I also think that's probably the right answer because I think it's, it's closer in line with Heat, at least in where he was in his career. So your friend was like, I loved Heat. What's like that? Weirdly, it's the insider, which is odd. It's got the tension right, the same way that that works. And I mean, I would also, I mean, I don't know. I know, I forget, I think it was Roger Eber who complained about being too long, but Ali is fucking great. I've actually never seen it. It's really worth your time. It's my favorite Will Smith performance by a mile.
I think Regina Hall is in it.
She's really good.
I think that's his first wife
or his first big girlfriend or something.
Jimmy Fox is good in it too. Yes. Also, I mean, it's just
unbelievable. Also, sadly, John Boyt is amazing.
Yep. Sure. Just like he's
unfortunately amazing in heat, you know,
it kind of happens. He's unfortunately amazing
and, oh, God.
Midnight Cowboy? Thank you.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
but like with the heat, like if you like, if you like,
the crime if your friend's more like the crime
shit you got to go right to thief
it's right there yeah I mean
I really don't think you can go wrong with him
there's yeah there's only like two of his
that I'd be like you know what that's for the fans
like yeah public enemies
and the keep I like I like
I really like the keep I do
and I I weirdly do really like
public enemies but they are for people
who love him yes like love
love him it's advanced Michael man
the keep is one of those movies where it's like
Can I see the better version of it?
Because I know it exists.
I know that it exists.
Can I just see the better version of it?
I'd prefer that if you could.
Let's see.
We'll do a couple more here.
Terence asks if we're playing any video games.
I finally beat Zelda.
I want to say towards the end of September.
And then I read like three books.
And I'm like, hey, how about that?
I got my life back a little bit.
But I am probably going to go right back in November when they put out
Super Mario RPG.
What is this Mario Wonder
that I should read about?
It looks good.
It's a lot of fun.
Is it?
You turn into a big...
It's a real...
It's a real thing.
It's a real...
It's a real new Mario game.
Yeah.
It's a...
It's a new scroller.
Yeah.
It's worth it.
No, I know.
But like, because I didn't
fucking finish Zelda.
Also, I bought
Mortal Kombat 1 on PS5,
like the new Mortal Kombat.
It is...
the hands down the most violent video game
I've ever played in my life.
The fatalities are out of control.
And there's like, it's,
I don't know when this happened
because I haven't like kept up
with Mortal Kombat games.
But thankfully,
they finally gave up the whole like,
let's make the move secret.
Let's make the fucking fatalities secret.
Like it finally wizened up at some point
because this,
at least this game anyway,
has like the menu and it tells you
how to do the fucking fatalities.
brutalities. It's all there. It's great. And it makes it so much better because you're not trying
to hide things from people. And I can just do my little fatalities and be like, like, there's one that
Luke Kang has that my jaw hit the fucking before. I was like, I cannot believe that's in a video
game. Is he skull fucking? Is he skull fucking? Yeah. He turns into a dragon and then skull fucking
but the problem is
so I bought these games right
you know what I'm doing
I'm playing in here
I'm playing on the switch
the fucking Star Wars
Podracer game
like really playing it
guys like you got a dick
I saw I saw the glint in your eye
Kevin have you finished Zelda
or you
I don't know if you brought yourself to it
oh yeah no I finally did it
and it's a great game
unbelievable
it's a great ending too I like the ending
oh yeah yeah uh i love i mean i don't know how like this is one of those things i mean i thought about
this when breath of the wild when i finished that i was like well i don't really know how they
top this like yes exactly i just have no idea but like i trust that they will do something
interesting for whatever is next yeah i hope i hope um but you know what take like a long ass time
yeah yes one i want you to i want you to work hard and you know do a good job on the game
but also i want enough time for my lazy ass to finish zeldah which i have not done you
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I don't know when we're going to do, probably to promote the
Santa Claus show in December. Probably do no one. Yeah, for that. Probably do
like, you know. November kind of a deal. Yeah, something like that.
So thanks so much for tuning in. Until next
mailbag. I've been Andrew Jupin.
Steven Sadek.
Great scabin.
Have a good night, y'all.
Thanks for tuning in.
Bye-bye.
We all go a little mad sometimes.
You know, it's Halloween.
I guess everyone's a title of one good scare.
Sometimes.
That is better.
Zombies have entered the building.
They're at the door.
They're coming in.
It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicca Man.
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
He's sick for fucks using one too many movies.
Now, Sid! Don't you blame the movies!
Movies don't create psychos!
Movies make psychos!
More creative!
Put the fucking loser in the back!
Exitism.