We Hate Movies - S14: On-Screen Live 10.02.23 Saw X, Box Office Numbers & More Coverage from the New York Film Festival

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

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what's going on everybody welcome to on screen live my name is Andrew Jupin and this is our show for Monday October the 2nd 2023 hope you're all having a good evening or maybe a good afternoon or a good morning depending upon where you're finding us this fine day or hello audio only folks out there happy you're joining us a few days later I love that the chat is flying how you doing are you creating me Dexter Long, Smarmy, love that name. Kevin Lynch, Sandwich Jones, also excellent.

Where are they? Our buddy Boussiris, hello, Ms. Melancholy. Thank you for joining us this evening live. It's always fun when the chat is rocking. Now we got some birthdays coming up, folks. We got to wish happy birthday. This is a big one. The big 7-5 to Mr. Avery Brooks.

Hell yeah. Love that dude. Hope he's having a good 75th B-day today. also music legend and long sex session enthusiast sting of course turned 71 today and the always amazing Lorraine Brocko here she is on some daytime talk show I found this picture of course there's a glass and wine involved here she's turning the best age 69 today uh and let's see who else who else well let's let's go to the mall and wish tiffany the music sensation tiffany turns 51 and of course Alabama shakes Britney Howard turns 35 so having their great days I hope

it's been a long ass week a lot of movies to get through here some real good some terrible some maybe in the middle we'll find out I got two dudes alongside me to help well talk it all through of course let's see first up he's got a banger ass shirt on right now Mr. Eric Siska hello hello yes happy to be here hell yeah how you're doing folks chatting on YouTube look at all these folks it's wild

Brian S Nick B hell yeah love that shirt by the way dude thank you yes it's a great great film you ever dabbled in the literature of that Anne Rice actually I have not you know I should probably do that you know I feel like I haven't read a book

in years ooh yeah dude I'm telling you I'm going through that Sarah book that I've been flapping my gums about it's fun it's a fun it's a Star Trek Adventure with all my friends. I've got to learn to read one of these days. Well, here's a dude who pretends to know how to read every week, Mr. Chris Cabin. And then Louis B. Mayor was heard to say to Louis Lois directly,

life is nothingness. Knife is unending pain. That's true. We should all go directly into the grave as soon as we were born and never returned. Man, Louis B. Mayor, Louis B. Mayor is really going off. My God. Chris, is that true? because I have a kindred spirit then.

Well, yeah, you and my... Yeah, yeah. I see you two as working together. I wish I was never born, aborted, what have you. It would have been fantastic. Well, you don't know that. You have no idea. You're just guessing. You have...

Folks at home, can you tell that Eric had a rough day at the factory? I had a rough day at the factory today. But if that, you know, if I say this enough, folks, if I say I wish I would oh, I wish I never existed, maybe an angel will come down. oh yeah dude then you'll have one hell of a Christmas and then show me all of your faces so sad that I wasn't born

oh yeah I will then be like ooh let me get coming out of the womb again I'm excited you want to go double then well that's Eric double boy you have to start spending more time on bridges and not the way you think just you know just hang out near the rail and wait for the angel to come you don't got to do much more than that a lot of people I guess talking about because there's some sort of mystery to his whereabouts right now asking about

Patrick J. Pesbis and just put it out there if you've seen that guy around folks go to his Instagram find the number there to inform the right authorities American hero yes

he's gone missing for a few days now not a funny thing it's not funny at all but I think we should take a look at the fraternal order of police. Yep, yep. Yeah, we'll see.

Could have been. So, yeah, I just wanted to put that out there. I saw a bunch of people mentioning Pat Pespas in the chat. So I figured, hey, we'll do our part here on onscreen live, right? Who knows? Just fingers crossed for his safe return. Now, fingers crossed for this frigging American box office to write the ship at some point. But for the meantime, we're going to have to work with the numbers that we have, folks,

in the segment we like to call highest gross. Love that funky-ass guitar riff. Now, I got to tell you, there's a couple of surprises from the weekend box office, you guys. And I don't know if you're ready for this one, but I feel like for the start of this, I should have played the secret movie segment because this shit at number five was a total secret movie to me. the blind a true story

of the Robertson family now without looking it up you two do you know what this is is that Robertson nope oh okay it's Phil Robertson right oh yeah

it is a fucking duck dynasty like prequel movie oh the duck dynasty begins are they still a thing like is this could not tell you

but look at this poster again he looks like I don't know who this guy is he looks like fucking Richard Manuel from the band. And I had no idea that the duck hunters

were blind. Apparently, apparently that's their whole gig now. Right. I think the blind is like the thing you hide in when you're trying to hunt duck.

I'm okay, there, yeah, that makes a little bit more sense, I suppose. Maybe. But this is, according to this poster

right here, well, that's the true story of the Robertson family. That's the true story. It looks like they might be getting down to some fucking

with that post. Yeah, I think there's a fucking, yeah. The poster looks very much like, Jason Patrick and

what's her name in Rush and so it does look like they would be doing a lot of drugs and fucking but I assume that's not the story if we're like really gearing it towards the the Christ heads and such yeah because it's you know I had a rough life and then I found

the Lord God and that's partnered 4.1 million dollars at the box office he told me to shoot as many ducks as I saw and I did and then oh bummer happened and yeah yeah always is the thing that happened also

I would love it if it turns you get up to the pearly gates and guys like I just need to tell you one thing I fucking hate ducks all right I fucking hate them I want them all dead they I mean the little stupid bills all the cartoon characters are better than the actual ducks come on

come on this was out from fathom so you know it's great yeah I just whatever man it's just a huge fucking whatever. I honestly would rather go see the number four slot

but none too because Nunn Fever is still sort of sweeping the nation here in it four in week four with $4.7 million dollars and now I was reading this what are we looking at? It's totaling 77 million

domestic and 231 million globally. Oh yeah baby. This kind of like fixes Warner Brothers Snafu with Blue Beetle you know this the nun too has made a lot of money and it didn't cost that much to make the non in the MCU you the DCU yeah it would have to be that I mean you're gonna have to get ready now looking at those numbers you're about to get like a nun tetrology you're about to get like as many nuns as you can fucking put out yeah just give them out there I think it's going to become so successful dude that they're

going to start hell raisering that shit and it's like here's a script that's kind of a horror movie, now put the nun in it. Why not? Why not? No, the nuns in it. The nun in space, the nun in Spain, the nun in America. Take it the trip. It's just like the trip. You just go to different places.

The nun is there. The nun ghost happens to be there. How about the nun in the blind? Oh, there are those. They probably know at least one. They probably do know one, Eric. I don't know what's the evangelicals. No, I don't think so. They don't. Women don't

power yeah oh well that's yeah that's a good point they got like crazy bake sale ladies and shit i don't know kind of non pie ladies yeah that's cool uh so here we go getting some uh new blood in the top five here here's a movie that i truly couldn't care less about and will 100% be a rental at some point the creator yes so chris did you catch this one at all i did not get to see it even though i am a fan of uh uh our man Garrett there. And I'm kind of curious because it does look like Star Wars runoff, which I guess is now we're going to be inundated with with Jack Snyder's Star Wars Reject.

This looks like a Star Wars Reject. You know, but the thing about like this movie and I mean, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but from that trailer, like it looks like pseudo pro AI. And I watch that trailer and it's like John David Washington goes into that room. And it's like, oh, behind this. This chair is the thing you need to destroy to save the world from AI. And it's a little robot kid and he can't kill it. Come on.

That robot. There's no movie there if I'm starting. Blame it down. Adios, robot. You make it look like a kid. I'm just going to kill it quicker. I'm going to do some Phil Robertson stuff, you know? It just looks like such piss, poor timing for a movie like this to come out, you know?

I just don't think it's something. I mean, you're right. The Star Wars runoff thing is correct. because now what you're going to have is this like bifurcation between Star Wars science fiction and everything else and everything else and if everything else is not good enough

that means that the Star Wars is winning and that's just going to be how people see this shit I think for the next decade I mean that's all I heard all I heard was how much like oh you know what I this is really going to be a blow to original science fiction this movie's sucking so much and I'm like

is that really it like I don't think that's it That's not it. Because, like, you can also have, like, good science fiction that also doesn't really hit, you know, and you don't blame that for anything. Like, if I can, um, Alita Battle Angel. Real fun movie. I love a movie. You know.

I don't know, man. What's probably worse, you think? Asoka or this movie, the creator. Oh, Asoka. Yeah. Without seeing the creator. Yeah. I've seen 10 minutes of Asoka and I can tell you for sure.

This is whatever is is, it's better. Which 10 minutes are you talking The opening The pilot of Asoka Like I don't know I didn't know if like someone had it out in the room And you just walked through or something No no no no

We'll be talking a little more about Asoka On the Gleap Gloucestery for this month We will be talking about Geithzerian a witch Yes Yeah A Knight sister So it's sort of related

If you've been keeping up with Asoka But we'll talk about it more there We got a lot of stuff to do today. We can't talk about Assoca right now. No, no, no. But yeah, but a good point because I know a lot of people have been asking about it. There will be an ASOCA related conversation probably over a couple

of Gleap Glossary episodes. Yes, at least two. Yeah. So speaking to two, coming in at number two, it's the first week at the box office. Saw X. And we'll be talking about it a little more in a moment. But yeah, week one,

$18 million. And this is already well on its way for a saw 11 to happen. It did 29 million globally on a $13 million budget. So, congratulations. You won yourself another saw movie. I keep getting older and all the saw traps stay the same age.

The same rusty age. Yeah, I mean, you would say that and like, look, the next, eventually, eventually it is going to have to be like a Tobin Bell AI that is doing this. That's the only way to explain how this still is going on after. Oh, there was

actually another trip to Mexico that happened in between the other ones. You didn't know about it, but we need to keep thinking these fucking things. A little teaser for a few minutes from now in this episode, I did not hate John Kramer's jaunt to Mexico. Yes, I have not seen...

I'll explain more when we get to it. But I was just as shocked as as you all were, just to hear me say that now. But $18 million at the gate, it'll be doing just fine. And then here we go. of stuff I didn't really know

existed in it number one Paw Patrol the mighty movie look at that look at those guys guys by the way someone in the chat pointed out you know expendables four and it's like wow that's not not even on here anymore the fucking

blind did better yeah no absolutely gone I mean some things that really got rocked here dumb money was in seven that's a it's a total failure for Sony yeah Expendables was down to nine in its second week. It had a 69% drop from the first week.

It's not quite quantum mania failure territory, but it's right there. Obviously, quantum media costs more. But expendables for still cost $100 million. Insanity. Where did it go? It wasn't on the school. It's the hair die budget. It's possible.

Yeah, I guess that is possible. Well, actually at this point, who's still there that's got dyed hair? It's just sly, right? Statham's bald Arnold's not in it Toll Road or Toll House is He's bald he's bald as hell So maybe it's just like really special

Bix to get as close as you possibly can And like no hair You get to pluck the hair is out I need to say something about dumb money Dumb money The fucking dumb thing about that is Your whole thing is like You are doing a conflation of like

Big Shore and social network kind of stuff What are those things and what made those things popular. They came out around fucking awards time. Like that was, this is a bit early. This is ridiculous for it to come out now. Are you out of your mind? Yeah. I just don't know.

And it's not a bad. I've seen. I don't like Craig Gillespie. Uh, but it's one of the more. I thought you liked Titania. Did you not? It's fine. Like, that's the thing. It's like, I'm like, I don't hate some of his movies, but like, I don't want to, like, defend him or anything. Uh, I don't like the soundtrackiness of his movies. I get very annoyed by that. And that's the same thing with this. And it's just like, I felt so bad because I was like,

Paul Dano's pretty good in this movie. And like, yeah, I would like to see him pressed for like some award shit. But it's not going to happen because the fucking thing tanked. I'll tell you what the biggest theatrical mystery of the year is for me right now. And it's with regard to dumb money. This like weird

two week limited platforming they did before just releasing it wide. Like, all you did for this movie was just kind of give it two weeks for the shoulder shrug word of mouth to go around and like now you break it wide nobody gives a shit like you can't do

like you usually get like the one week right and it's like let's see how it does and then like if it's kind of tepid you just break it you don't do like oh the first week it's kind of tepid let's do a second week where it's kind of an expansion oh that was tepid too fuck now

here's the wide release it seems weird to try that with what looks like a big box comedy yes yeah you know like that you take your swing you don't you don't tease it like it's uh an indie movie or an award movie or an art movie yeah yeah i mean if you're gonna do that though eric like you release it at least mid to late october or into november like you don't do it in early september when everybody's like still at fall festivals and not paying attention to shit like early september when this was like starting to platform it is a fucking graveyard uh movie

was. So, huge mistakes all around. But hey, Paw Patrol, the Mighty Movie, congratulations, $23 million. I guess this is a sequel. It looks like they're going to be going to the no kill shelter. Oh. Yeah, dude, these dogs are getting put down anytime soon.

There's a Paw Patrol 3 coming, no doubt about it. Oh, yay. But I've heard from like, you know, people who are invested in these kind of, like, people with kids, like, that it's an okay movie. I'm sure. That's great. Amazing. That's cool. I'm happy for Paramount to have a hit. Nice to take something away from the mouse. That's always appreciated. So hey, congratulations, Paw Patrol, the Mighty movie. You did it. You absolutely did it. So that's the box office. It's still, it's my water here. It's still not great. So we'll see what happens. But by the way, Barbie still managing to hold into that top 10. She's in 10th place this week.

amazing. Good job. Good job, Greta. Yep, totally. So, hey, we got some things to plug here before we get into talking about some movies we've seen here. First thing up, probably not a surprise to anyone in the chat, but hey, you know, if you're watching,

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We will be doing a digital worldwide experience on Friday the 13th, Part 4. Oh, yeah. Look at that. The final chapter. this is another amazing piece of art by our good friend Philippe Sobrero Yes that's right folks Part 4

It's the one with Corey Feldman Crispin Glover A missing corkscrew As Steve pointed out in his read for it That'll be on the air Starting tomorrow Definitely multiple teenagers being thrown through windows You have a lot of that going on

For whatever reason that was like Jason's hang up during this movie. He's a good window tosser. This is, I think, one of the best Friday of the 13th movies. I'll get that. I'm my favorite, but it's a good one. It's a big one, I think.

It's a good one, and it's going to be a lot of fun to talk about it and go through it on October 26th at 9 p.m. Eastern time, but it will be available on demand seven days after, and there will be an after-party Q&A thing. It'll be a lot of fun, so you're going to want to snag tickets to both, and then you know, just watch the replay if you can't make it live.

Yeah, no, that's also totally possible. But yeah, I'm excited to talk about one of the best ones, one of the ones I really like. Also, those Q&As are fun, are they not? It is just us bullshitting, taking some pre-asked questions.

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all the important ticket purchasing information. So, all right, I realized, I forgot to ask around the horn before we went on the air. Am I the old one well versed in Saw X? Oh, no, I've seen it. Oh, baby. Oh, yeah. I have not seen it yet. I rather, I'm deciding to live it out instead.

There you go, dude. There you go. The trip to Mexico is already planned. It is planned. So, Chris Cabin, you know, I was sort of teasing my opinion about. of the thought. Look, I don't think it's a great movie. I don't even think it's really a good movie but it's a movie

and I think that is really important here and I'll lay it out here's a couple of reasons why I think versus like the other movies in this franchise. You have I like that we all know what I think yeah you think all you have is negative thoughts

Chris. Well no because when I mentioned no when I mentioned the movie a few minutes ago you like burnt and farted at the same time so like everybody heard it. fucking freak out, dude. I did, I did. I lost it there. I really walled the wall. Here's the thing. I think it's a much more well-written script than you normally get in a saw movie.

You have like an understandable upfront motivation for why the things are happening to the people that they're happening. That's nice. You have, I mean, you have John Kramer walking around doing stuff which like should. have been this franchise, right? Like, all of this shit with, like, him being dead for three movies. Him being a flashbacks. The puppet's in this, though, right? The puppet does make an appearance, yes.

People would riot if there was no puppet. Yeah, no, there's actually, there's some solid, there's a solid puppet appearance. But, like, so you got that going on. Tobin Bell is in, like, virtually every scene of the movie. And I think, I've said this on other things before. Like, I think Tobin Bell is actually a really talented actor. and he gets to really John Kramer it up here and it's

kind of interesting to finally get to watch what that would look like. And then finally I will say we are going outside the fucking sun exists in this movie. Really? Oh yeah, dude, we are getting some fresh air we're fucking sitting outside like at a beautiful vista at one point

like things are moving and shaking. Like the world exists outside of a fucking neon lit factory. So Chris I'll let you have at it, volley it back the other way, but, like, that was just some of the, the positive things I was surprised I was noticing in Saw X. I understand completely why people are liking this more than the other ones. This does have a clarity, and it's not ugly as shit. Like, that is one thing for sure. I do kind of think, like, as much as this is nestled between two movies that already

exist um you kind of have to forget all of saw exists for this to work i think like for him to be this heroic and for him to be treated like this i'm like you have to literally just vacate everything else like contacts has to be blown but smithereens this is this is like a prequel is thing so it's like he just becomes a shithead later is the well it takes place between one and two yeah he's already done shit like he's already a piece of shit like killer like that's that's already happened so like I kind of couldn't take it seriously I was like so I just am supposed to forget like literally everything

I mean like if it was Transformers where I'm I'm told to do that every time I would get that but everything else I've seen of Saul is like well do you remember all the other stuff that happened why it all matters so much and all this stuff all it matters actually but this one it doesn't do no it doesn't this time so whatever I get why people like it I do appreciate more Tobin Bell

I like the man quite of it I will say an hour in 58 minutes is a little criminal It's a bit much It's a bit much for a saw movie Well here's what's interesting though And I totally agree with you But the reason why it is that length

Is because it's kind of An almost like perfectly two part Like two short films in one in a way Right? Because like the first like hour almost is him like you know in like a grief group and then he hears

word of this mystery cure then he's down there then it's happening to him and then he finds out he got fleeced and all that stuff and then the saw movie happens like after that but like yeah it should still

not be pushing two hours I'll give you that I mean but that like that only presses more to me like I'm spending so much time with John Kramer and I have to, for this movie to work the way it's saying it is, I have to forget what I've seen of John Kramer

completely and for a big chunk of time. Like when he gets, finally gets to the sawing and everything like, yes. Kills are not so bad. There are, dude, it doesn't happen to me often because I've seen my fair share of horrors,

but I definitely had my hand over my eyes at one. And I was like peeking, you know, I was like, which victim, can you tell me, or? The cab driver. The cab driver. Okay, yeah, that was pretty

bad. It was pretty bad. Actually, there were, uh, no, I didn't put my hand over my eye for the first woman in the game, but that one, the leg. That was tough. That was, I mean, it is a stupendously violent movie.

It's not doing the, and like, that's the one thing. Again, like, you can give it these little tiny credits because like they had to give you some variety eventually like you can't just keep doing the thing you were doing because like it was having diminishing returns and this one seems to be doing much

better both critically and at the box office. Yeah. Like I think that was a smart move but like you have to watch her do like the thing I mean people who haven't seen it like the thing that happens with their like you have to watch it whereas you used to be like you'd watch a little bit of it And then, like, you watch her scream and the camera goes like this, a bunch.

Yeah. And then, like, you're not really seeing the thing. This time you're seeing it pretty all the way through. You know, it's interesting. And I think part of why that's happening is because they've dropped all of the, you wouldn't steal a car, would you, aesthetic that this movie has. Like, the early aughts, like, bad music video, shaky cam kind of shit. Like, that's all gone.

And it's just like, you're just like, you're. You're just watching it go down, and it's pretty righteous. I mean, another, I think maybe franchise first, there is one kill that happens. And it turns out to be a dream sequence, which was weird. Or like, not a dream sequence, but like a John Kramer fantasy, like a daydream that he has. So he would, he sees someone, like, thinking about doing something shitty. and he has and then it cuts to like this guy in a trap

and the trap goes horribly and you think like he just literally pick this dude up off the street and did it but then like he wakes up and he's like oh that would have been a good idea but like doesn't go through with it I'm thinking about sawing people yeah dude oh you definitely get a little

better not he's got a saw a sketchbook at one point I'm gonna get a lunch instead of sawing them right now yeah you know what you take a cup of coffee and then I'll come back and think about it again one Rose in the chat

asks if there's any doorbops on this one. As a matter of fact, there is a doorbop in the movie. I couldn't even believe it. I forgot about doorbop. Sorry, but I just remembered what that means. And wow, that's a highlight of the franchise. Yeah. Jim Callahan asked, could you go into Saw X Cold if the last one

you viewed was part three? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah. You're going to miss like one little reference at the end, but whatever. Someone else who saw the movie does point out correctly, a knock against the movie for sure they're definitely doing the piss yellow we're in Mexico camera filter

and you know I will say this we're still suffering from that thanks for nothing Steven Soderberg traffic was like the first instance where that was really laid on super thick

like that I have a memory of anyway sure but I don't think Soderberg meant it as piss he was like it's the sun baking you all the time was I what he was going for. Sure, people have taken it off to their own things, but I don't think anyone is saying,

I'm doing this because it looks like piss. I think that's all people are. I honestly would believe that. It's so filthy and disgusting that I kind of think, like, I don't think what else it would, like, signify other than grossness, something gross. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it is supposed to be like, yeah, burnt, you know, sun drenched, nasty, whatever.

Yeah. Yeah, anyway, so listen, I would say, folks, if you have even remotely been a fan of these movies, I found this to be kind of an interesting direction shift for it. And I, it's a, it's a light recommend. Oh, God, oh God. Oh, God. But what are you going to do? All right.

So moving on to a completely, speaking of shifting gears here, completely. different gear. Our coverage of the New York Film Festival continues this week. A lot of stuff that's come out. Let's see. Get my little thing changed here. All right. So let's see. First one. I think I might have been the only one to see this. The new one from Aki Kursmaki. Fallen leaves. Oh, did you see it? Oh, good.

Yeah, I was never for that. Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, it was super cool to see a new movie of his. I'll let you go first on this one then, Chris. What did you think of it? I mean, I love it. I mean, Aki Kuros Maki has been making in a lot. I mean, his style is so specific.

Yeah. And it's been this way for as long as I've been watching him. So like it's, it's great to see it just refined and doing little things differently. Like this actually feels like more akin to his earlier work. Whereas his last to Lahav and the other side of hope, I think is the other one. Yes, which I did not.

see, Lavre is one that I did like, but it's his stuff, but just a little more on the serious side. Like, it's the same style, but, because also it's like dealing with a much more serious issue. Well, yeah. Both those movies are dealing with immigration, especially

specifically in Europe. And this one is much more back to, like, you know, social, local issues. It's about work and about like feeling like you're doing something or not. Like, there's radio broadcasts

to talk about Ukraine and I love that he is like trying to keep it synced in reality in a way because everything else looks a little fake in a way but if folks if you're if you're unfamiliar with what Aki's style is like

it's like the most flat dead pan like Jim Jarmouche times a hundred I mean it's no surprise that the two characters in this movie go to the cinema at one point and they're literally watching the dead don't die

you know it's like it is because it was kind of funny because watching this movie before they went to the theater I had a thought of like the last time I saw something this dry and this funny was the dead don't die and then that the movie's

featured in the movie I couldn't believe it that's actually one of the jarmishes that didn't really work for me so that's is that right yeah two like two flat or what do you think was the beef there. Maybe honestly too flat and too fantastical at times I think. Even though it was

filmed right around where I grew up. I thought that was pretty funny though. Oh, that's cool. Did you like notice any landmarks when you watched it or? Yeah, I think the diner. Oh, really? Oh, that's kind of cool. Oh, big you pop diner. Yeah, yeah. I'm surprised a little bit by that, Eric,

because I know your boy Sturgle's in it. Yeah, well, he's been a lot of shit lately. He's been doing it. He's been doing it, man. He's going to be in a little bit. what flower moon as well right flower moon I think he's in the bike riders too I'm not sure about that but I know killers of flower moon for sure holy crow he's in the

creator oh really are you talking about Sturgle Simpson yes oh really yeah he's also he had a pretty good a few episodes on the righteous gemstones this year yeah he's talking about like he's he's acting and stuff yeah he's an actor too yeah oh

that's cool I didn't know that he's also he's great live too folks if he's ever coming to your town yeah good act to see. So, yeah, real quick, like the synopsis of this movie, a guy who is an immigrant working like various construction jobs or whatever meets a woman who's also like just as lonely as he is after a night of karaoke. And it's like a misconnection.

Like, he loses the number. They try like getting together and stuff. And it is just like, it's very funny. You know, in that kind You have to really be ready for the deadpanness of it all Because it's it's cranked up folks It's supremely deadpaned But it's also like so beautifully sweet

And I don't want to spoil the end of the movie But the last line like the button on it About what the dog's name is It is like When they tell you what the name is It totally encapsulates the like romance vibe of this movie you know what I mean because it's

it's reference as a certain director and that kind of like brings everything together I just I thought it was incredibly beautiful it's shot so gorgeously he's still shooting on film I think this this looked like Super 16 maybe just really great and yeah I mean I love the anchoring it

in an actual reality by just having her listening to news broadcast and it's all it's talking about is it seems to have been starting like this movie takes place right when the war was starting like right when the invasion of Ukraine first started. But this one is out. It'll probably

be fairly limited on 1117 from Mubi. Man, those folks, some of the best in the game these days. These folks are really jumping up, which is awesome. So look for this one around your local art houses and stuff, and then it will be, of course,

probably streaming on Mubi. By the way, as we're changing gears here, I see Bjornar in the chat asking, has anyone seen White Star from 1983? You're referencing the Roland Click movie? It is fantastic. If you can find it, I do recommend it. So yes, I have seen that movie.

With Dennis Hopper? Yes, the Dennis Hopper movie. Wasn't there, oh no, am I thinking of a different Dennis Hopper movie that just got a Blu-ray release? Out of the blue is what you're probably thinking of. Yep, yep. Sorry, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Sadly, I don't think it's on Blu-ray yet, but it should.

be. Spectacle Theater in New York and Brooklyn has played it a few times. So keep your peepers peeled. Yeah. All right. So that one's done, unless you had any other final thoughts

there on Fall and Leaves, Chris. No, no, no. Okay. This one, fresh from seeing it this morning. The new one from Alice Rollwalker, La Cumera. This one is out. TBD from Neon at some point.

This I just thought was absolutely fantastic. Yeah, I agree. You know, I liked Happy as Lazaro, which I think was at the festival a few years back. Just a really, really solid movie, but this was just,

oh man, I don't know, it's, it was a today screening, so it's still like digesting in my noodle a little bit, but like it's just a really fucking beautiful movie. You know what I mean? Like I love, there's like some magical realism points in it, which is always super great. I'm a sucker for

that stuff. Just really sweet performances. This dude, Josh O'Connor, who I guess is on the crown. He's great. He's been around for a little bit, but yeah, I haven't even watched him on the crown. I've seen him somewhere else, but yeah, I hear he's big on the crown.

I was just really impressed with him because I didn't, I don't know this dude. And he just starts, like, going off, like, spitting an Italian. And then all of a sudden he starts speaking English with an English accent. I was like, what is going on? So I had no idea who he was as an actor, but

you plot summary this one. You give this a shot as best you could. I mean, to me, this is a capital C, capital B, uh, P crowd pleaser. This is, yeah, in the in the 99, 2000, 2001 era where like you would have these big fucking foreign

crossover hits, these humongous movies, that is, this would have done so fucking well. Alice Rewalker, I'm sure I'm butchering the name, she is one of the best directors in Italy, I think. And this calls on a long tradition of like Italian comedies or dramatic comedies or comedic dramas, however you want to say it, about like a bunch of scoundrels.

Yes. Yeah. Like I thought a big deal on Madonna Street. I thought about all those. And it's a movie that is kind of critiquing those movies while. also like embodying what's fun about them. It is, it's about a bunch of grave robbers, uh, is essentially the idea.

And, uh, you know, there's ins on that. You know, there's a, uh, a, a dead girlfriend. Uh, there's family stuff. Isabella Rosalini, wonderful as always to see her. Um, there isn't like much more to, I mean, like, it is just about these, this gang of grave robbers. Uh, the main character, Arthur, has just come back from somewhere

I don't know where from exactly I forget that but that's essentially the setup lovely movie really just incredible you should see it at ain't cost hey are we back yes oh you were gone oh you were from I didn't I see yeah I didn't notice you froze I guess

I had no is that right yeah no Chris had just finished summarizing what seems like a hot little picture oh yeah well you would like this Eric you would very much like this well shit and now I'm I'm bummed I literally missed everything that is wild no normally I'm

the one with the internet problems folks dude and I'm fucking plugged in I'm not even on Wi-Fi and this thing was like your connections bad I don't know what the hell was going on there was three black screens here with just little things swirling like man it seems like your computer's up to poor things

I mean I mean I just I was yeah I explained it as just like a movie about gray robbers, Arthur coming back and joining them up again. I mean, I do think it's one of those movies you can just walk into. It's not like, happy as Lazaro is like, I could see someone like getting confused by that movie, it takes a lot of major leaps. Yeah.

This one is not that. This one is less ambitious on that front, but just as winning to me. I really liked it a lot. Another good entry point for her is the wonders. about the family of beekeepers. That was a movie shit before Lazaro. Yeah, I mean, your whole scoundrel thing. Yeah, just like grody people who are like nice and up to no good.

You know, it's just, it's an incredibly charming fucking movie. And I was really, it was a real like, am I going to make this this morning or am I just going to see the afternoon movie? I was so glad that I saw it. And I'm so glad that Neon has it. That's, you know, that's two for them now in this festival. this is an anatomy of a fall. So they are going to have a really interesting year. I'm wondering,

I would assume this goes to qualify for international feature, but who knows? Who knows what I'm very disappointed. I missed it today, but I will definitely check it out once it's released. So speaking of poor things, Eric, that's next on the docket here, the new one from Yorgos Lanthamos.

What a wild movie, man. I mean, I think I might like. it the more distance I get from it. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Foof.

I mean, to summarize this one, I guess it's, it's sort of a sexy riff on Frankenstein. Yeah. Yeah. It's like if Boris Karloff was wandering around that whole movie, just getting railed comes to. Yes, yes. Quite like if you, if you're one of these people like us, they're like, oh, we're when our sex scenes coming back to the movies, we got some. for you. I think it's the entire runtime. Dude, yeah, it's like he was,

your ghost was making up for lost time. And beautiful, you know, the way it's just made, like this, the set design, I mean, I'm sure there's some that's, um, C.G and all that, but it's very fantastical. Kind of gives you a little bit of like vibes of like Tim Burton or Guillermo del Toro, but a little, a little different than that as well. A little fancier than those guys get. You know, there's something a little fancy about. it. But what's great is because of the fantastical nature of it, it allows, like, when they do have to go CG for mainly, like, wider sort of landscaping ocean set kind of shots, the fantastical

nature of it, like, helps it, you know? It doesn't need to look realistic, right? So, yeah, long and short of it, Willem Defoe plays a scientist who resurrects Emma Stone from the dead. And the whole thing is it's the adult's body, but with a baby brain. So it's she is like growing up and learning, but is a full-sized adult the entire time, so it's weird. And so the great Rami Youssef plays a doctor

who's studying with Defoe, who Defoe hires to like keep notes on her and keep track of her and everything. And then, well, he's sort of like falling for her and they have this weird relationship in comes the dastardly Mark Ruffalo and sort of takes her off on this journey

and that's the movie Ruffalo what a performance yes holy fucking God he's like a foppish like a lawyer but very much a dastard oh yeah he's a ne'er do well

dude absolutely and it's great to see what a year for him and also with Oppenheimer RDJ another escapee from the MCU it's great to see them fucking really swinging for it

and doing something. Just like really doing things in movies, right? And also, you know, we're sort of burying the lead here, but Emma Stone is fucking great in this movie. I mean, it is a real deal performance from her. Right. I've always liked her. Let's help the internet right now for this

Emma Stone, the performance of Mr. Skin, okay, you can start, it's the entire runtime. Yes, there is. There is indeed quite a bit of Emiston. There's also some Mark Butfellow going on. You see, that guy's took us

a few times actually. Yeah, yeah. With all the vigorous jumping, yeah. In jokes from the movie. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, I don't know, I'll say this, I don't know where this lands on like me ranking Yorgo's filmography.

I probably have to sit with it a little longer, but it's weird because it has it has like vibes from like various your ghost movies like there is a little bit of dog tooth to it there is a little bit of the favorite to it this might be the funniest one I don't think it's my favorite but it is uh it's quite a picture

I will say that I do think I need to sit with it longer I think the favorite might be my favorite uh but yeah yeah it's um it is certainly worth checking out it is certainly original you know you know as far as like the

stagnation of us having to talk about fucking expendables for you know and saw X and whatnot it is a refreshing you know I just realize it also sort of reminds me a little bit of adventures of Baron of Munchaus and oh sure

it's it's quite fantastical yeah So this is out I don't know what they're doing with it But it's out 12-8 from Searchlight I think on this one Wide would kind of be a mistake Like maybe platform at a week

And see what happens Because it's also like I can see Here's what's going to be interesting All the like Like Grampy audience Like all the blue hairs And the blue mustache fellas

That first came to Yorgos Lantamos through the favorite which is like arguably his most reserved movie in a lot of ways like content wise specifically but like so then it's going to be like oh from the director of the favorite oh Morris he did the favorite

we saw that and then like they go to this movie and oh what a fucking wake up call that's going to be for these people. You might be on to something here because when I saw the favorite I saw it at a smaller movie theater and there was a ton of blue hairs there and then they came in they came out in the front like the people that were in the theater and we were like due to everyone here really wanting it we're going to play the movie with closed captioning so i'm like reading lines before they're said and it was

kind of a terrible sync that's awful yeah i hate when subtitles are out of sync but like yeah especially like you know indie theaters uh get your fucking refund ticket roll ready get ready to give out your red tickets. And luckily, this theater I'm talking about, I already went out of business. Yeah, there you go, dude. One down. One less theater.

I don't have to worry about this. So, yeah, we'll see. It's something I definitely want to revisit at some point. For many reasons, one of which, here, you know what? I'm going to put this back up because I'm about to go off on a rant. Here we go. Here's something.

The first, like, 45 minutes of this movie was fucking ruined for me. Do you want to know why it was ruined for me? Oh, that's. here we know. Yeah. I'm going to fucking say it on the airbus cabin. Yeah, yo, you know, you know, I know. I heard it. All right, so I take my seat, you know, and the seat next to me, well, there's a bag, someone's saving a spot there. Hey, that's totally fine. And there's a, well, I notice what's that? A humongous, like, jug of what appears to be soup. And this was like, in the middle of the, you know, in the middle of the screenings,

It's kind of like there was extra time. It was a lunch break time. Everybody go to the cafeteria or whatever. So I kind of forget about it. Dude comes and sits down. Movie starts. Precisely when the lights go down. At the exact same time, it's getting dark in the auditorium.

This guy takes the cover off this totally full, like quart of soup. Now, I think it's important to stop for a second and say, I got a sense of smell like fucking Wolverine I can really easily smell stuff so when I'm like in the belly of the beast

with like a thing a hot soup it's not good and this dude is eaten like a crab bisque crab bisque in a fucking movie theater you can't

especially with the I mean these are press screenings and film critics are nasty despicable people and they do things like this. But it's like have some respect for the audience. Have some respect for yourself and don't crack soup

in a crowded theater. Whoa, well, whoa. Self-respect amongst film critics, no sir. Don't you start playing games here, Eric. No, sir. Absolutely not. And, you know, Eric, you're you're Joshin, but that was the other part of it. Not only did this thing stink to

high heaven, it was every few seconds. you're slurping suit while poor things is playing. So, like, Mark Ruffalo is just banging Emma Stone's brains out. And I got going, it was so fuck. And the whole time I was like, finish it. Just finish it. And I was at some sit there, I'm like, well, clearly at some point, he's going to get full and just have to put it away.

This dude housed the entire thing. 45 minutes. He's taking out another suit. Dude, I would have died. I or I would have just out of them. Oh, a Greek salad. Okay. Oh, here's your fucking 10 ounce ribby. And he's mixing them

all in the soup. Oh, it's chugging it. He's just drinking it now. Dude, there was a end of the, end of the meal lift. Just to get every last Bisckey dropout. Oh, man. So, sorry, I had to get that off

my chest. Just inappropriate auditorium behavior, folks. just like, we're trying to live in a society, as George Costanza would say. Now, all right. Eric, I know you were bumming to miss this one today. I was, yes, because my life was in disarray this morning, so I couldn't make it out. But here

we go. Hitman. Hell yeah. Richard Linklater's third now collaboration with Glenn Powell, I believe. Yeah, does everybody want some, Palo 10 and a half? And now this. I didn't know he was in a politin and a half, but that's good he's uh yeah he voices uh one of the like fbi guys i think um which i love that movie uh that was i saw that at south by before uh netflix buried it in the ground like a fucking italian grave robber

um it comes again they're gonna do it again baby i know dude and i let me can i tell you something i literally didn't know that netflix had this movie until the to dum logo came up this afternoon and I was like, Motherfucker. And this is the exact kind of Netflix movie that will just fall comfortably through the cracks. And that would be

unfortunate because boy, do I think that this movie's funny and a hell of a fucking performance from Glenn Powell. My God. Oh, it's a great movie. I really do think, I think the lightness is underselling it for a lot people. It's a really great movie. It's, uh, I

thought about out of sight a lot. I thought about a few, I mean, like, Glenn Powell definitely is the star performance. And I think there's a genuine, I think he co-wrote the script as well. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it actually has some pretty interesting moral quandaries in it that usually are kind of like left like not said or kind of like, and like I'm all for a subtext for ruining subtext, but like sometimes I feel a lot of this stuff is just so blatant. This does a nice middle of the road. They're talking about the ideas, but they're not being like, oh, my God, listen to me about it. They're like, there's like zero.

Yeah, zero pontification in the movie. There's no soapboxing. It just kind of lets you, it lays it all out there and you kind of interpret it how you're going to. I will say also, Adriya Arjona, who you might know from Morbius and the dreadful father of the bride from the other year. And she's also an Andor. she's uh what's her character bix oh yeah yeah from the yes yeah yeah um she is the supporting uh co-leader or whatever and she's really great it is like so hysterically funny um i know a lot of people aren't crazy about this but it does have some vibes of bernie speaking of link later movies oh yeah um but like it can't be understated i think uh Glenn Powell like for all the talk about like oh maverick was a real star turn for him. I think as far as like, yeah,

as like a movie star kind of thing, sure, but this movie is a real showcase of like, this dude can also act and like he's very funny. I mean, I knew he was funny from Everybody Wants Some, which totally, speaking of underrated Linklater movies. Great movie.

Great movie. And the other guy, the other cop, the red-headed guy was also when everybody wants some. The scumbag guy? Yeah, yeah. That was cool. Oh, and Another great supporting turn. Reda from Parks and Rec.

Very good. Oh, my God. Really, really funny. Yeah, it's just that reminder of like, hot damn, you know, Richard Link later. He can make all the movies. Like, he can make all kinds of movies, you know. But yeah, the lightness of this is great.

It's not too, oh, you know, another one I was kind of thinking of, it's got a sort of similar-ish vibe is, oh, Lord, now the John Cusack Mini Drive. movie Dan Aykroyd. Yes. It's also got that kind of a vibe to it. That's a good movie. Yeah. But like less violent than that, but it has that same kind of like it's crime related stuff. You know, it's like people hiring like to quick I run down of what it's about. Like he plays a guy

who is a college professor who also for extra money helps the police department like monitor people on like stings for like arresting people for hiring hitmen basically um so one day like the guy who plays the fake hitman in these stings can't do it so Glenn Powell has to step in and it turns out he's really good at it and like the movie goes from there and like he just he's in so many different modes in this movie he looks different in because one of the funny things is like he's wearing disguises like as he's doing these different hitmen and like It's just, it's so charming.

It's so funny. But just with just enough, like, darkness to it where you're like, oh, this is like, I wouldn't call it like a black comedy, but it definitely, definitely has its moments. Yeah, I agree. But it is, I think it's a comedy. Like the, the vibes are almost all good, uh, even though it, it, it does walk into some dark corners. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was really impressed, really impressed this. And, uh, cool like on location, New Orleans. stuff here and there, which is pretty sweet. A lot of cool, like, bar signs and whatnot. It's definitely a movie like I wanted to have a beer during. I mean, that's kind of like every Linklater movie in one way. It's got to every

movie for me. Linklater's just got some real beer drinking vibes. I should say, I don't think that was a good move during the zone of interest screening. You pop in it right there. Hey, hey, hey, Chris, I was respectful. I had a German logger.

Oh, man. Look, a Bitburger is just not right for this time, Eric. I just don't think it's good. You know what? You're right. Maybe I shouldn't have had the lager. I shouldn't have had the colch. I shouldn't have had the Pilsner. I should have had an October fest.

Give me what time a year it is. Yes. You know, I was going to have an October fest on the air. It's a nice juicy beverage this evening. But it was like 75 today. Like, all of a sudden, it's not October fest drinking weather. It's supposed to be 80

tomorrow. So, strapping. that sucks. That fucking sucks. Anyway, we're going to do our damnedest here on this show to plug when this movie comes out because it'll be in select theaters which means nothing, nowhere. It'll play the Paris and that's it. And then it'll just like quietly fart onto the platform and never to be seen again. So

it's a huge recommend huge, huge recommend for Rick Linklater's hitman. This next one, was a just me another huge recommend but for completely different reasons Raven Jackson's all dirt roads taste of salt

this is another one from 824 that they're putting out 113 I would guess probably a smaller release to start but no confirmation on that this movie this is a capital A capital F art film

this is like the totally like other side of what cinema can do from Hitman. You know what I mean? Just like a truly beautiful fucking movie top to bottom from Frame 1 but I will say

it is a very unconventional movie. It basically follows a young woman growing up in rural Mississippi I think. Let me just double check that really quickly. Yes, you are correct. Mississippi. And it's like different points in her life and you know

various big moments in her life. in her life throughout like I think at least like three time periods and it is so unconventionally shot most of it is like extreme close-ups of hands and feet

and you know faces very few wide shots in the movie and also not much dialogue whatsoever I would say like totally tops maybe 25 lines of dialogue something like that

maybe um it's it's not an easy movie if you don't if you're not like geared up for what you're about to watch so that's why i'm kind of like putting this all out there because i think i said this last week i am a like just tell me who directed it who has it what the title is a lot of the time i just like going in cold like especially in in festival season um because sometimes you just find great stuff so i don't super closely read like appi a lot of the time and like in the copy on Lincoln Center's website it explains what you're about to watch

and the speed the mode that it's in and I was unaware of that so I went in and I was like oh fuck like it was a it was like my brain was saying like you understand that this is good but you're not at the energy level

or like the mental preparedness for it and it's affecting you negatively watching the movie and I had to like I gave myself like a little mental pep talk in the theater I was like, no, sit up. This is what this movie's doing.

This is the key that it's in. You fucking meet it there and you watch this movie. And I was so glad that I did because it's so powerful. It's so incredible. This is a feature fucking debut from Raven Jackson. So certainly a talent to watch, it's incredible that A24 would put this out. I mean, because you are putting this out because you want people to see this movie. You want people to have the opportunity to see this movie.

You're not thinking like it's going to make X-2. amount of money. Because it's not a box office movie. It's a piece of art that people should experience. And the dad in the movie is Chris Chalk from a, oh man, the Matthew Reese

HBO program that just got canceled. Perry Mason. There we go. Chris Chalk's on Perry Mason. I got it when you said it. I was like, oh, yeah. He's a, he's a marvelous actor. And he's in the movie. He plays the father. yeah really really hardcore recommend

for Raven Jackson's all dirt roads taste of salt keep your eyes peeled for that one folks all right final one in the evening and this is all three of us saw it we can all weigh in on it the new one Todd Haynes which was the opening night selection for the festival

May December which will hot dog it's just another Netflix one are we all happy aren't we all happy to hear that I will say one thing I'm going to, we should talk of film critics a lot and they deserve a lot of it.

Today, when the Netflix thing came up for Hitman, one person clapped and it was audibly, everybody else in the auditorium was like, oh, will you stop? Very clearly was just like, oh, come on, man. I don't know if that was

like a Netflix, like PR person or what, but everybody through vibes only, no one said anything, but through vibes only, the auditorium collectively went, shut the fuck up that was like the douche chill that's like cascaded

through the auditorium it was stupendous because yeah I mean this is another one what's that as was this movie yeah this is a very

great to watch it's a very good movie yeah uh Eric Siska why don't you do a little capsule summary okay well it's about a it's Natalie Portman plays a celebrity well an actress

a famous actress who heads on down to Savannah, Georgia, to sort of shadow Gracie, played by Julianne Moore, who is a lady who went to jail for a fucking a 12-year-old in a pet shop. And it's sort of about like,

so because Natalie Portman's going to play her in a movie, so it's sort of shadowing her to understand it. And just her, like, dropping in on their lives, and you get to see the dynamic of these people. It is fascinating. It is funny and it is interesting, really. Yeah, I should say it's loosely based on the Mary Kay Laterno story of the same thing.

Wound up marrying this super young kid having his baby in jail, like that whole thing. That's the story that it's based on. The Campitude is cranked. This is a Todd Haynes motion picture in the best. way as far as that goes it's it's so funny it is it is really funny and like sometimes like nastily so like there are some cutting moments in this movie that you're just like holy shit that was rough but totally true you know i'm thinking of one natalie portman line in particular that i don't want to say because it is kind of a a little bit of a spoiler but it is a really like i was like

whoa that's harsh yeah i feel like i'm almost said too much because i went in completely cold and it just surpassed expectations, you know? Oh, yeah. I think it is one of his, I honestly think it's one of his best movies. It's layered in ways. Like, it's not as careful as something like Carol. And I kind of, as much as I love Carol, I like that it's not so careful and that's so appointed. It's got that trashy vibe to it, but it just looks incredible like most Haynes movies. I think

all the tension is there. Like, uh what's his uh what's his name the uh the young guy the husband uh charles melton is that yes it is yeah good that kid and i he's been in a lot too he's been in a bunch and i just never paid it he was like oh that man is very handsome and then like everything else like eh like i didn't really care for him but he's fucking great he is yeah really good in this yeah he's sort of infant he's a riverdale kid yeah he was on riverdale um he was in Bad Boys for Life apparently. I remember him from

I think he's is he one of the like kid power team in the movie? Well this character name is Rafe so I'm going to say yes sounds right to me there was some teen romance with him and the eldest daughter from Blackish that I know came out and I just never watched

but that was an attempt to put him in movies. This is a much better attempt I will say this is He's really good. He's good. And his character is the, you know, the, he's now the adult that was, that hooked up with Gracie in this pet shop. And they had a family together. And it's just very, he does a great job of like showing what it's like because he sort of has this arrested development in a way.

And his children who are going off to college kind of are more grown up than he is. And it's, there's a lot of interesting mediation on. on how you could potentially get stunted in life, I guess. Oh, yeah, when you miss your entire, like, you know, adolescence and teenagehood. You have children at, like, 13. Like, yeah, I mean, it's going to be a little different. It's going to be a little different. And also, like, that also plays into, I don't think we've mentioned,

I don't think we've said this word yet, but it is also very much like a psycho drama. Like, there is some weird head game shit in this movie. and the campiness of some of the performances plays into that. And the music cues? Yes, the music cues are, oh, they're so beautiful. Every one of them funnier than the last. And like intentionally, so this wasn't like

the audience turned on the movie or something. Like, you're supposed to be laughing at all of this. And it is just so well done because it's like, it manages to live in those two spaces at the same time. It is this funny camp psychodrama thing. But then it is also like, and especially through like Charles Melton's performance and his whole relationship with everyone else in the movie

it is just some real deal like oof that sometimes happens and that's unfortunate and like look at like this real person that's totally destroyed from this whole experience so it's also like very heavy at the other end of it and

the two play well together that doesn't feel like either mode is stepping on the other's foot right it's got a great balance to it yes you needed a master like Todd to be at the reins to achieve that. I think this is one of my favorite of the year. Yeah, yeah, no, it is 100% up there with me as well.

And this is, yeah, 1117. They will do some sort of theatrical thing because this will be an Oscar movie for them, for sure. I mean, yeah, like, Link Later, no, that, I forgot to say that. Howl, maybe, but, like, Hitman, to go through all of that just for that. single element, probably not. I would say that probably doesn't come out until next year. It still could be this year, but they're going to be

focusing on things like May, December. And yeah, like in their endless search for Oscar or whatever, maybe this will be the one because Todd Haynes makes great movies and he's made another great one. I think this is probably his best narrative since

Carol. Definitely better than Wonderstruck. You know, I didn't see it. It just looked. real bad you said it was good it's good it's just not i mean it's i mean it's it's it's not this but it's good it's a good movie okay i'll go back to it that it looked a little too much like kid shit no it's it's pretty weird i mean there's kids in it and it follows kids yeah it's about bigger things in that got it oh you know who's in uh may december for like

one scene remember uh the annoying buddy in that first David Gordon Green Halloween that gets like horrendously murdered. He's kind of like Little Philip Seymour Hoffman. He's the kid in that acting class scene that's like, hey, what's he like to do? Yeah, that was that guy. Drew Shide

is that kid's name. Nice. Congratulations, Drew. Great at being hateable. Incredible. Yeah, he's a piece of shit, annoying presence in both movies. But that's going to do it, folks. That is all that's fit to blab about for this edition of

on-screen live. We'll be back next week. It'll be let's see. We'll pull up the info here because we're still in festival mode. Next Wednesday at 7 p.m. will be the final off-kilter broadcast of on-screen live

concluding our festival coverage. But don't worry. This week there's tons of stuff coming out from the WHMU but just as a reminder really quickly last week if you missed it we did come out with an episode on the Nexus

Picard mud wrestling his own brother finally and a great episode of TV and podcast yeah and oh and Catwoman herself Lee Maryweather guesting on the TOS there so that's all on the Nexus

now of course the Halloween Sputacular has started already because last week we did release speaking of Saw X Saw 5 truly abysmal movie. Chris, you'll at least say that Saw X is better than Saw 5, right? Oh, yeah. I guess.

I mean, like, again, like, I feel like I'm picking corns out of a turd and being like, well, this one's a little shinier than the last. Like, yeah, like, oh, corn, corn, oh, a peanut. That's what it sounds like. Saw X is. Yeah, that sounds about right. That's about right, Eric. The peanut of the franchise.

Which is the best, you know, if you're going to eat something out of shit, I mean, a peanut's not bad. I mean, I was. I'm going to say to eat it, but just finding it. But yeah, sure, I assume, yeah. Well, the good news is the spructacular continues tomorrow. We're an all-new episode on Exorcist to the Beginning. Yeah.

Now, this is, of course, the Rennie Harlan movie is what we're talking about. So if you're- Yeah, it's not Dominion prequel to the Exorcist. This is Exorcist the Beginning. Don't worry, both are bad. What a movie. What a picture of this one is, guys. Holy quote.

But you're going to have fun with that episode. remember it being a ball. Yeah. It's a good one. A lot of a lot of Stellan Scarsguard impressions that are pretty much just Liam Neeson impressions. That's all right. You'll forgive us. He gets the gist. He get the gist. So that's out tomorrow.

And then on Thursday, you better make sure you're subscribed to that top level of the Patreon because this month's once in a lifetime is coming out. And Chris Cabin, what movie are we talking about? Killer Under the Bed. If you like doll movies and I know the poster

does not look like that but if you like killer doll movies you're really going to want to see this this is a really just really just terrible even by a Q and on actress this is just really abysmal stuff but hey we had fun with it. Christy Swanson you're referencing

yeah yes Christy Swanson Queen Q you know I'm going to put that back up for a second how do you have a killer doll movie and you don't put the doll on the cover well I'll tell you folks it's because this doll looks so goddamn shitty you would be embarrassed to put it on your poster

it was made for five cents it's the worst thing you've ever seen and they use stop motion animation to make it run around and try to kill people it's exquisite and I will say I had more fun watching that then both Saw 5 and Exorcist the beginning so

Patreon.com slash we hate movies for that and of course add free episodes that will include Exorcist at the beginning, dropping tomorrow, folks, at that $8 level and up. But that's going to do it for this evening. Again, we'll be back next Wednesday at 7 p.m. here on Onscreen Live. And until then, I've been Andrew Jupin. Eric Siska.

Chris Cabin. Have a good week, folks. Take it easy. Bye-bye. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you. Thank you.