We Hate Movies - S14: On-Screen Live 1.22.24 The Beekeeper, ISS & True Detective Reviews, the Weekend Box Office & more!
Episode Date: January 24, 2024On the winter premiere of OSL, we're looking over the weekend box office numbers to see how the January drought is doing this year, reviewing Statham in The Beekeeper, along with the new sci-fi parano...id thriller, I.S.S., chatting about the first two episodes of the all-new True Detective: Night Country, and whole-heartedly recommending picking up the 4K blu-ray set of the Criterion Collection's release of Satyajit Ray's Apu Trilogy! Be sure to stay up to date on new tour dates being announced. Head to our tour page now and catch up on info about our next worldwide digital experience on THE FLASH, along with upcoming dates in ATL, HOU & ATX! Want more WHM? Join our Patreon fam today and instantly unlock hours and hours of exclusive bonus content, including Ad-Free WHM Prime at the $8 level and up! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies needs! Including new Polish Decoy, ‘Jack Kirby’, and Forrest the Universal Soldier designs!
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What is going on? What is going on? One and all, welcome to the triumphant return of on screen live. My name is Andrew Jupin. I'm going in three
buds. We're going to talk over the weekend box office,
paltry as it is. And we're also
going to review a bunch of shit that we've been watching
that's like new
adjacent, but hey, you know,
we've been on break for a while, so
what are you going to do? But let me bring in these buds right now.
First up, straight from the new goon cave.
Eric Siska. I've been gooning since
we've been off the air. Every Monday
at noon, I start the goon
session here. Excellent,
dude. But now I have to do this.
Yeah, well, sorry about that. Well, we'll
try to find some off weeks so you can charge back.
Thank you. I'd appreciate it.
Next up, you know him, you love him.
The librarian himself, Mr. Chris Cabin.
And that's when I told Ian Curtis to blow it out your ass.
Yes, we were at a KFC at the time and it didn't matter because the guy behind the counter
had, of course, escaped through the back.
I went back there.
I took it to the soda fountain and I started throwing sodas at Ian Curtis.
Who is this?
Who wrote this book?
Excuse me?
Oh, oh, hi.
this is Mark E. Smith, of course, of the fall.
Oh, got it. Yeah. I'm glad the
book fair got to Connecticut in time
for this one. Oh, no. I've had
that one for a while. One of my favorite
bands, the fall. Oh, I see.
I thought it was a Jarvis Cocker
for a second on the cover there. I mean, he
does have that kind of look, I guess, on the
cover. He's looking a little swaggy
on that one, I guess. That's right. That's right.
And hey, making his
triumphant return, we have
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body. Please welcome back to the
program and the WHMU at large, Mr. Stephen Sadek.
Hey, everybody. How's it going? Yeah, Steve lives indeed.
I am so glad it worked out. We found your body in the river and we put your baby's brain
inside of it. Yes, here you are. Yes. I'm horny as hell. I'm so fucking horny guys.
I was chasing that cute little duck dog, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like that movie.
I'll probably never watch it again. Yeah. Pretty indifferent to it.
I'm not going to complain about all the male and female nudity, of course.
No, certainly not.
And I mean, Emma Stone deserves a reward.
Yeah, you know, I had a little surgery.
Still got most of a toes.
Now, a little surgery where...
Did you sell them?
Did you sell them?
I have not...
I've just started to, like, walk outside and stuff, which is sort of exciting.
Nice.
This is a new thing.
Definitely sitting on a surgery donut, so don't worry about that.
Oh, man.
You got to do it, dude.
Mm-hmm.
You got to do it.
But we got so many people welcoming you back, dude, in the chat.
We got Kate G.
Knowledge Junkie, Will Plock.
That's nice.
Lane of 10.
Welcome everybody.
Nico Fish, Mals G.
Jen Stansfield.
Hello, everybody in the chat.
Welcome back to the chat.
Is this an old man sweater or a robe you're rocking here?
This is an old man's sweater.
Okay.
Yeah, I was going to say, Chris, it looks like you stole it from the hospital.
To quote, to quote, dumb and dumber, it's a cardigan, but thanks for noticing.
Of course.
Very nice.
It looks me.
All right, dudes, we got a lot to get to you today, a lot of ins and outs and what-hav-hues, as it were.
Talk about some movies and TV.
We've been watching and whatnot.
But, yeah, let's talk about the weekend numbers.
We're in that January pit of despair.
This is highest gross.
All right.
Yeah, so this is, you know, the bad lands of January, you guys.
Not a lot going on with regard to ticket transactions.
Let's put it that way.
The bad days.
Y'all are nothing days.
The migration days.
It's the migration days.
here, man.
Number five.
Are those little rubber duckies characters?
Are they like minions in this thing?
No, I think it's just kind of a goof maybe.
Just a funny little poster.
Once we do it, I'm probably never going to see this movie unless, and again,
maybe my nephews will drag me to it.
But I will say, just from the ad campaigns and all sorts of cross-promotion,
I find those ducks charming.
So there you go.
I do, I do too.
Wow, you guys sound like my mother with happy feet.
And that came out.
She's like, they're charming.
Well, that's a thing.
they were charming. Charming birds have becoming animated
staple. Birds really are a big thing. That also is
just them ripping off a toy story. Yes. Yes. Sitting with all
the alien guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that
shaved nutsacks with fucking glasses
on the go, baby, baby, babies, biz, biz.
Yeah, I don't like those. Some of those minions are also unshaved nutsacks
just by the way. Right. That's good. At least with birds, I don't have to think
about what their genitalia is like. You know it.
You know it. I know it. I know it
in and out. There's YouTube channels that are
just dedicated to it. Is that
right? There are. They are. Hit me
up with that link. I will say
not me, but
little kids in my family.
Two
little thumbs up to that movie. Oh, there you go.
That's fun. One of my nieces and
my nephew went and saw it, enjoyed
it. We're looking here.
Week 6, we've accumulated
95 million at the U.S. box office
192 globally. This little guy.
doing just all right you remember like when i mean like this is very much me looking back at
this point i don't even think it's nostalgia but it's just weird now yeah like when we're growing
up the fucking january like you didn't notice these movies because people were still seeing all
the movies that were like yeah to make the awards thing exactly and like i it has all that
just gone so quickly to streaming that it doesn't matter yes probably that seems like what happened
yeah i mean i'd say also like just
based upon like where we live you know we're seeing a lot of that stuff kind of ahead of the
wider releases anyway so maybe now just like purely like geographically we don't go see these
movies as you know because we've already seen them i guess but to christ's point it's not making
the box out you know what i mean if middle america was just introduced to say poor things or
i don't know right yeah i mean i guess it's just it's not a year that has that really at least
Oppenheimer is back in IMAX and selling out shows.
Check at our episode on it.
That's, I mean,
probably the two biggest Oscar frontrunners made the most money,
which are Barbie and Oppenheimer in July, you know,
so that's,
yeah,
I'm kind of looking farther down the list here,
because, you know,
we only do the top five here on highest gross.
But,
yeah,
I mean,
like poor things was at 10,
you know,
so people are kind of coming out with that.
Iron Claw,
which is getting no award chatter really.
It was fucking nuts
that that movie
It's crazy.
It's not by the century.
It is fucking crazy.
I think it's like that I watched it over our little break here.
I enjoyed it very much.
I think Zach went a little too hard with it.
He looks like a freak now.
So I think it's like he's huge, dude.
Isn't it crazy how big is in that movie?
I think he's great in that movie.
He's fantastic.
I'm not saying he's bad.
I'm just saying he's off putting.
It's unsettling to look at.
No, you're absolutely correct.
Even Jeremy Allen White thought so.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I think they're all good.
I just,
it's such like one of those straight drama things like I guess Oppenheimer's giving people that
but like to me I'm like that's just so like quickly to me like what a voting body would want
just a straight trauma done very well I think to your point though also dude it is something about
like what's being released when like with Barbie and Oppenheimer uh over over the summer
and Killers of the Flower Moon was like late October and then super early November but like
I think one of the reasons we're not talking about as much one of the movies
that I think they sort of positioned it
Christmas time and then it'll expand
and it'll be this huge hit. It's the color
purple. Yeah. And that, you know,
I think you could see Warner Brothers thinking
like this will be a ton of nomination.
It's got some attention, but not
I think the ton that would have
taken it into January being like
a real box office banger.
It's an interesting movie, but
that was never going to make a war. No,
no, no, no.
But you can totally see how they
would think in their frame, but that's just so.
crazy to me to be like, yeah, of course, this
thing, this, there's a musical that are,
they're doing so well right now and everybody
has so much right now. Wait
a minute, what are you talking about, though?
Like the Spielberg West Side story was rife
with nominations. The box office right now
is a musical, isn't it? Is it?
Me and girls. But yeah,
in January, Eric, I mean, it doesn't
count. And so, isn't Wonka musical as well?
Am I wrong? Yes, it's
terrible. That's like a full, straight on musical
Wonka? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
They do whole asides with it.
twirlings.
Oh, jeez. Okay. Well,
that'll be on pay-per-view
in this house. Not going to the theater for Wanka.
Anyway, in it number four,
anyone but you
starring movie star Glenn Powell
and piece of sentient sheetrock
Sidney
I don't care for her.
I didn't even know this was out. I didn't know what
this is, but I'm happy those young people
are doing their thing. It's a rom-com
dude. It's a straight-up, like
two people who don't like each other have to
do this whole farce and pretend that they're engaged to make their exes jealous yada i will remember
this movie only for the nathan fielder emma stone uh absolutely brutal takedown of the of the cutesy
trailer that they put out which was oh really oh i missed that they put out a cutesy trailer
when this movie came out and it's like the two of them being like come to see my movie and
then like and then cidisweeney's like don't you mean my movie and then the next day for
the keep, for the curse
rather, the Emma Stone
and Nathan Fielder did the exact
same thing like
oh, man, and it was like
absolutely brutal. It was just, it was so
uncomfortable to watch that I loved it so much.
That's incredible. And I think Sidney
might be your classic
really good looking character actor.
And I think that she needs to get out of
lead role. Like I think she's great in reality.
He is really good in reality. Like she's not
a bad act. It's just like again, like
they put her in these movies and shows
that like, I'm not, I don't care about.
Somebody probably really likes her in euphoria.
I don't.
You're saying, she's great.
I just, I personally, like, I made that joke.
So I'll just say, like, in everything that I've seen her in,
I find it the exact same note.
And that's not interesting to me.
But maybe in 30 years, she'll be like a Jennifer Coolidge and everyone will love her.
I really do.
I think that she's got a character actress kind of vibe to her,
but she's really good looking.
So they're like, you're a lead.
It's like, is she really?
The annoying thing about it was they also tried to like kind of like AstroTurf the idea of this movie because there was like shots of them like making cutesy eyes behind the scenes of making this before the movie ever came out.
It was just like, oh my God, they have so much chemistry.
They're looking at each other.
There's two attractive people who are looking at each other.
That sounds fun.
I want to watch that.
Sure.
Well, it's in theaters right now, Eric.
Well, it is.
It did $5.4 million this weekend.
And, you know, it's done 64 million here and 100 globally.
I mean, it's not nothing.
I appreciate that movies like this are out in theaters.
So, you know, for what it's worth, I'm glad that it's there.
All right, here we go.
Moving right along.
News to me that this was a musical Wonka, which so that reminds me, though,
both Wonka and Mean Girls, we are doing this thing where we're scared of like being out
and proud about our musical and we're cutting
trailers without the musical numbers in them?
You're right. Yeah, they're hiding it.
What the fuck are you doing?
But that just speaks to what I'm talking
about, like, they clearly know that people
aren't like flocking to these things, even
though they're doing okay in a January box
office, sure. But like,
why wouldn't you put
that for it? Like, if Wonka is a musical, which it
is, like, why wouldn't you
put it that way? Because they're scared
of it. They're like, they think
audiences are going to make fun of it and shit.
The funny one about that though for me is
Mean Girls, both actually Mean Girls and Color Purple
Because both are very known and successful stage musicals
It wasn't a fucking secret
What are you doing trying to trick somebody into thinking
They just remade Mean Girls?
They did that.
Remade Color Purple?
I think they did that
Didn't they just release a musical version of Waitress?
Yes.
No, it was a filmed from
It was from the Broadway.
Broadway version? Okay. Yes. Yes. I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
I thought for a minute was they had done the same thing like with Mean Girls, but with Waitress.
No, no, no, no, no. I mean, Mean Girls is a, it's a movie musical.
Yeah, yeah. The Wait, the Waitress thing. Someone in the chat correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like I would have known about this. It is just we filmed a stage production, like a production of the musical, which is a good music. I kind of would rather have that than like trying to make it a movie around.
yeah yeah but that's that just that only gets released on fathom events eric so you want to release it on
major you know right theaters so you have to be like it's a movie right right yeah yeah 20% new
footage yeah uh so yeah wonka 6.5 mil look at these numbers though uh 187 million in the u.s
532 globally and this thing only cost $125 million so it's a timmy hit timmy's got a hit there you
Timmy hit. Timmy hit.
All right.
We'll be talking about.
We call it a Timby hit.
Well, you know, maybe it's good that we move
Dune until this next, into this new year because you can't have these two
Timmy hits hit in each other.
Actually, that's true.
Because Timmy Hips going to time cop itself.
Like, and then, then it's, then no one is a Timmy Hits.
Two Timmy Hits cannot occupy the same weekend.
That is the idea.
And hey, Wanka, lay off the fucking chocolate bars.
All right.
So here we'll be talking about this one.
little more in a second. But the David A or Bkeeper was in its second week here from MGM. We're looking
at 8.4 mil. And this is, you know, it was an okay, 49% drop, not too shabby for week to 31 million here,
75 around the globe. Had I not been medically unable, I definitely would have saw this this weekend,
because the trailer looks so ridiculous. I was medically able and I didn't see. I kind of wish I did
because I think it's cool that an action movie is number two right now.
We are going to talk about it, but I do think
the number one thing it does is it sets up
very well a direct
TV, a VOD action
series franchise.
Scott Atkins or anybody else can just be dropped right into.
You are completely right, Chris.
And it's like, what's the one?
Sniper, wasn't that?
It was a Mark Wahlberg movie and then we went
like John Sina and the lower.
Marine also does that.
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of with John Sina.
That's one.
The Marine.
all of yes it just happens all all the time now it's because this is just like insert new person to play titular be so do you think john cusack is going to find himself uh on the on the receiving end of the beekeeper at some he's going to get beekeeper most definitely i would say scottkins is in line for a beekeeping of his own i mean knowing john cusack he would want to play i mean maybe he would like you know gnaw down on some real like ghastly villain role yeah but i feel like
he would want to be like the tech man for the
oh yeah he would want to be on
the side of the beekeeper I feel you would
sub in Cusack for the
Jeremy Irons character yeah yes
get yeah get him
like so like key Cusack's like an older like
managerial kind of thing
anyway more on that in a minute but the mean
girls musical which is indeed
a movie musical and not a filmed
production of the stage musical
was number one for the second week in a row
and we're looking at 11.7
we've got mean girls
fever and I want to announce something here because I need
money desperately. I have. Check this out. And I've been, I'm so
old, I was working in entertainment when the
original mean girls came out. Wow. This is
who liked it off of TV? No, this is an actual
screener copy. This is from late night with Conan O'Brien. This is
Conan O'Brien's actual personal
viewer here of a screener here. When you put it on,
it says Conan O'Brien on it so that they know
who leaked it if it came out. That's right.
for and I nicked it when he wasn't looking.
So $1,000, hit me up.
Mean Girl fever is going next.
Conan O'Brien's screener, Chris.
It's available to on the Mingol aficionados.
I know, but do you have any O.J. memorabilia back there, too?
Did you just hoarding?
Do you have a buyer that's also O.J.?
He doesn't have any of those crummy crumbies, Chris.
He's only got the pretty pretties.
He's a guy that's great screeners.
I unfortunately was rejected for the O.J. Simpson internship.
Instead, I had to get coffee for Conan O'Brien.
I'm sorry.
Nevada would have
embraced you with open art.
Direct message me on Twitter,
Instagram,
let's move this tape.
Let's get me to repair this window.
I think I didn't get something on.
If you put that on eBay for something,
I don't think a thousand,
maybe like a hundred bucks
and put a bidding war.
I think you'd probably get up to 300 bucks.
Would you have to like prove in some way?
Oh,
what says it on it, of course.
That's the proof.
You're right.
You're right.
Yeah.
I mean, unsigned.
That's a real shame.
It is unsigned, but remember, it's 2000.
It's a mint condition.
Look at this.
Very little wear on this.
And it's a Memorex.
That's it.
That was a good brand when it existed.
Do we have the, like,
selling jewelry on TV music?
This is reasonable.
But next week, when you try and sell that patio set,
we are going to mute your mic.
But it's just, like, I do have this.
This is related to what we were talking about, so it's fine.
But patio furniture is a fridge,
move that patio stuff. The old people
left it here and I got my, I want to do
something new. That will be next week.
No, we're not talking about
night swim just so you can talk about your patio.
We'll do lawn chair
by lawn chair next week. Get
ready for the spring season. You're going to do a lot
of outdoor entertaining.
I did. Speaking of night swim, Chris,
I was curious because this weekend
I love just, you know,
again, we're, I wasn't
leaving the house. And I was looking for
you know, just anything that new VOD stuff,
and I had the thought
and I tweeted it too
just whatever happened
to the January horror movie
where is my bye bye man
where is my escape room
or end or escape room
I'm champion
there is one
it's not good though
is it night swim
is that the no it's called
Founders Day
oh yes
I've heard of that
it sounds
it's a slasher
it's an actual slash
but I guess the move is
because horror
actually does well now
it's out of the January
slot so you would release
those in March
and beyond.
Even your bye-bye man
might have gotten
a March release date
in the year of our Lord
2024.
Yeah, I guess that's entirely possible.
But I mean,
like,
that's the interesting thing
is like people,
things can kind of make money
all over the place now.
Yeah.
Like, so, yeah,
I mean, I would say
one that's out,
Steve, it's on the horror
comedy side of things.
Not a theatrical release,
though.
That's another thing.
We have the advent of shutters.
So like, destroy all neighbors.
Okay.
with Joan Ruey Rodriguez and
Alex Winter, it's a trip.
It's fucking wacky as balls, but it's like
something of note.
Anyway, speaking of Mean Girl Fever, Eric,
maybe with regard to your eBay
listing, but not so much with this movie.
Only 66 million globally
and 50 million here in the U.S.
This was supposed to be a
Paramount Plus
exclusive title.
And now how well it's doing it. You can own a piece
of history. That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
Could you show us the front
of the tape itself?
it's just black.
It's just, yeah.
Also, Conan didn't get through much of the movie there.
No, Eric Siska didn't get through much of the movie there.
So other than that, it is pristine.
After this marker, that's Conan Eyes only right there.
Yeah, I mean, that's a...
I mean, that's what he watched.
I'm waiting for you to have to prove that the Conan stamp is on there,
putting it in a VCR, pressing play, and it eats it right now.
Eric, this is pristine.
No one's going to eat this, take.
I'm excited for this, Eric Siska.
Even lower stakes, can you ever forgive me?
It's somehow, it's just somehow
an even lower stakes in the middle of McCarthy can play you.
That'd be great.
Yeah, perfect.
Oh, there we go.
There are Conan collectors out there, you know, Eric.
You should just contact them.
I actually have pieces of the set.
I've got a lot.
We'll talk later.
Hey, but speaking of us talking later,
we're going to be talking later on February the 1st,
which is a week from this Thursday.
Moment.com slash we hate movies because we're doing our flash show.
if you can even believe. I can't believe that's
literally next week. That's kind of
bonkers. But yeah, we're
going to be doing the show 9 p.m. Eastern
and then immediately following that
a live Q&A
VIP after party kind of thing.
This was the one people were like
oh my God, I can't believe they did do it this month.
We're doing it. It's just
one day late.
We'll call it
worst of January, one day late.
It is one of the worst movies I've
seen. It's one of the worst
superhero movies period i still have not seen it i'm very exciting i'm saving myself so everyone can
hear my live on air freak out on thursday you're not going to enjoy it eric and yeah i i'm i for
one just am a little worried that we only have two hours to discuss this thing i need a full i know but
day we got to be careful to i need eight hours if any if i can get me an eight hour place to talk
about this i just so i can fit in all my graphs and my big chalkboard i got back here i don't
wait. Sorry, it's over there. Oh, your red yarn. Yes. I'm stringing things together. And just to
do with the flying babies. That's all I'm the baby. That's the first part of the theorem.
No idea what you're talking about, but I'm very excited to find out moment.com slash we eight movies.
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February 1st oh my god
I can't believe I have to watch that goddamn movie
oh baby it's happening
oh it's gonna happen
and Steve
oh go ahead Chris is there a director's cut
am I am I
no I think I did this is just
this is exactly what Andy Marchetti or whatever
that guy wants us
wasn't that the fellow that did the two it movies
yeah it the clown one and two
and mama the Jessica Chastine horror movie
oh right right right
I saw that I liked it it's okay
hey Steve though speaking of requesting things
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easy I do I go through the calls I always find it incredibly endearing when someone's got a long
script where there's like and they just fuck it up and it's just like yeah I wanted to request
the beekeeper because Jason Statham's a fuck right yeah I want to call it the bee keep
because Jason Statham needs to be stung by
a bunch of fucking bees and it's like
it's fine either way it's fine
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I'm excited.
We've been getting calls in.
I'm excited.
It's coming right up.
Yeah.
All right.
Now I'm looking at the chat.
There's nothing wrong with writing your script.
I'm glad that you do.
And I want your calls.
I want your calls.
I just don't, I want to hear that shaky piece of paper while you, why you read it.
No, all we're saying is, all we're saying is, look, there's enough to deal with.
There's enough everybody's got to deal with every day.
You don't need to put the added pressure on yourself, baby.
It's all right.
Don't sweat it.
There we go.
We're moderately successful podcasters.
It's not that big of a deal.
Look at Steve.
He's barely alive.
I'm barely alive.
Look at this.
It's fine.
Are you at home sitting on a medically, uh, sanctioned ass pillow?
If not, you're doing much better than me.
Probably not.
All right in. Don't worry about it.
None of Jason Statham's
victims and the beekeeper need to ask pillows
because they're all dead in the new one from David Ayer.
So is it just me and you, Chris, on this one, right?
I think so.
I did not get to. I wanted to get to it, but I unfortunately did not.
Yeah, that's fine.
So Chris Cabin, what are your thoughts here on the beekeeper, my friend?
I mean, it's a David Ayer joint, so it is bad.
It is what he comes.
he always brings it it's always going to be bad uh but and that's i i say that with a little
tragedy to it because i do think the guys got some style like there's like parts of this movie that
do work uh a lot of the action does work pretty much it's cut to shit it's not edited very well
uh and you would think now in the age of like post scott atkins choreography you know good
fight choreography is now a must in the john wick slash scott actens world but like it's still
really not that well done in this it's better than usual better than usual with the jason
statham movie but yeah when i'm watching i just got done with john wick part four man the bar has
been lifted you no longer like get away with half doing it i think and like i just also watched
um eric i think you've seen uh the one shot and one more shot i saw i saw one shot i did not
see the sequel yet it it just it to me it's so basic like oh you can just do it
this and make it look good. You don't have to
fuss too much. It's pretty easy
to do it. And like now I'm just
kind of like, well, you cut away
from like all the good movement. I don't
know. What's the only thing about one shot
is just a quick digression is that
Ryan Philippe's in it. You know, that's kind of
surprising. That's where he's been. He's now
doing Scott Atkins' movies.
He's got a little Empire's Secret
movies. He's
been getting there. But anyway,
back to Beekeeper.
Like the story, I
just was kind of like this is fine but like if you're going to have this antic world like
it feels like they did a half step of something like um like smoking aces where there's a bunch
of like characters that come out by the sun that are like crazy and just trying to kill someone
like yeah and like i was like okay and then like it comes it like pulls it back immediately
and like it keeps doing that herky jerky thing where it can't decide does it just want to be
a crazy action movie or is it
trying to be somewhat serious like a John Wick
where there's like lore that we care
about. They are
trying to have it both and also like
we're kind of saying something
Oh wow. Okay.
Nobody needs to be saying nothing
in the BKer and it would be totally
totally fine. I mean
I think like look there's obviously
like levels of shit and I don't think
every movie is going to try to
you know should try to top
John Wick type stuff.
That's why John Wick is John Wick.
So I don't know.
I found the fighting better than your average
Statham movie.
It has a lot of fucking really silly brutality
with him going around killing these people.
I was probably annoying guy in the theater
if anyone was in my screening at Union Square
because I was howling,
howling laughing at the way he's killing some of these people.
Let me ask you know, this is how you rate action movies, Chris.
Is it better than expendables four?
What?
That's the thing.
Anything above expendables four is okay.
Yes, that's a three stuff.
Everything above that, that is a healthy three star fellow.
No, flag on the play.
No.
Bekeeper is a is a healthy three star in my opinion.
I'll say though, I want an air cut of my own,
but this air cut just removes the absolutely useless FBI characters who are like,
30 minutes behind the fucking movie
every step of the way
and like the whole thing is like
Statham is getting revenge for
Felicia Rashad's character
committing suicide because she gets fucking
scammed and all her money goes away
and the one of the FBI
agents the character is the daughter
of Felicia Rashad so that's why they keep it in the movie
it's so awful
it's so just it's pulling
the emergency break on a subway train
is Pat Pespus in it does he go to
the beekeeper like go get a beekeeper don't tease me don't tease me i would like that that's something i would
like that's this is stuff i don't like this is like boring like oh god we've got a what is the beekeeper
is he part of the beekeepers do they all bee keep and i'm like i don't give i i hate when there's
too much lore and i think that's my problem with john wick as well yep we're really trying to set up
lore but it's like john wick sets up lore because that's what john wick's doing this sets up lore because
that's what john wick's doing yeah you know and that's and that's and that's and that's
That's what kind of sucks about it.
And it, but that's why, like, if you look at it not as, you know, something that should have been competing with John Wick, but something that's totally stupid and over the top in a lot of ways, you can just laugh your way through it and have fun watching it.
And that's the level that I was meeting the bee keep rat, because it's stupid.
But it's, to me, it was fun stupid.
And I apologize to the other six people that wound up being in my screening opening weekend.
I'm curious.
I was pretty loud.
like the the air cut of suicide squad because they keep saying it i mean it's one of those things
where like in middle school when like somebody makes a joke and then like the guy who nobody
likes kind of like latches onto it in the bag he's like yeah me too he's totally shit his parents
like that that's what that's what this uh there's an air cut of suicide squad too by the
i don't know because the air cut is like what he gave them uh before they decided to do like
massive reshoots, right? That's
what I assume. theoretically. It's just
it's one of those things where I don't think we're ever going to see it a light of day.
It'll never happen. But if it does, it'd be cool to see like, you know,
oh, here comes Margot Robbie 10 years older in this scene.
If we did it for Snyder, man, I'm fine doing it for whoever else.
It's stupid as shit. I will watch the fucking David Ayer
like director's cut of suicide squad. I absolutely will.
The same way, I would love to see whatever the, whatever, uh, Gareth Edwards gave them, uh,
gave Rogue 1 before they
I would love to see what the fuck
he was doing. I like cuts.
Yeah, yeah. I like cuts.
I mean, give me all the cuts.
Hey, all right, guys.
So something that's not getting any additional
cuts. ISS,
which opened
this weekend, kind of, I think
was that six at the box office?
This was that from Bleaker, new one
from Gabriella Cowperthwaite.
Great concept. Great concept.
Yes. Yes.
Sluggishly executed.
I have to say.
I think it does reach a couple of those nice, tense,
like paranoid moments,
but never can keep the balloon in the air,
so it's just the kid constantly picking the balloon back up off the ground again.
It's a great concept.
I do think it was like, you know,
it's one of those things where this is a problem with some modern filmmaking
wherein all of the acting is so studied and human and small
and like real and like we're trying to really
this movie needed the
Twilight Zoni kind of like
big performances you know what I mean
and like I think that like that's not
shitting on the actors who are in the movie I think they're all
doing with the director one which I think she wanted
this to be kind of like a what if this really
happened I'm like not really though
like what if it would happen it was kind of fun
you know what I mean or the story's exciting
those personalities need to be dialed up make that guy
more Russian somehow or whatever
exactly and the squirly guy should be crazy
at some point, you know what I mean?
Big shout out to Chris Messina's mustache, though. That was great.
Great mustache. Not too shabby.
And yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
It's also got a really good cast because like it's Christmas
Sina. Ariana DeBose is sort of like the lead character. John Gallagher
Jr. is a great actor.
Costa Ronan from the Americans. He's one of the Russian guys. And then
Pilo Asbeck,
you're in Greyjoy, I believe.
Yes. Who cannot not play an asshole?
Has to do it from now on. It's just, it's a mandate.
Well, if you do what you love, Chris, you'll never work a day in your life.
He's not the bearded guy in succession with Scars Guard, right?
No, he's a guy who looks exactly like it, though.
Yeah, a little taller, the guy in the...
Yeah, I just, I think all of them were good, but it's just sort of like, it was just very quiet.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's much more quiet and sensitive than it needed to be.
It's very dramatic.
I mean, like, it's trying, I mean, this is what we do all the time now.
We take all the fact checkers seriously.
We're like, look, well, would this, if somebody who had been in this situation before was watching this, would they be like, yeah, that's about what it was like.
And like, that's essentially what they want rather than be like, yeah, or like, woo.
It should be a 20 minute twilight zone episode.
You know what I mean?
Because it's such a twilight zone concept.
Here you are up in space and the world ends beneath you.
What do you do?
I think my biggest problem was the ending, which.
just sort of like, we don't know what
to do. Yes. Yeah. Yes. You
don't know how to end it, which is why, like, if
you're getting, like, crazy
with it, like, then you can have a crazy ending
but this, it has this, like, ponderous
like, what now?
And you're like, I kind of don't care.
It's the, oh, hello, bartender.
I'll take another. Great.
But, I mean, it looks
really good. I was about to say, stuff.
The visual effects, the visual effects
look good. There's definitely things
to like about the movie
I just felt like it fell short a little bit
and I know it sounds like
especially with the beekeeper it's like
we want a grounded story
but then we get to this movie
we're like how about a fantastical one
with robots so
it's it's a different temperature
for each dish though you know what I mean
to be clear I don't want
a beekeeper to be grounded at all
I want to be crazy all the time
if it's good I just don't like that
it keeps on going back and forth
you just don't like the world building
yeah and like that
you put so much time into it.
Because that's the FBI, dude.
That's what I'm saying.
Because like all the Jeremy
Iron stuff and Josh Hutcherson, like that shit
is crazy. And then
of course everything Statham
is doing is crazy.
But then you have the FBI shit where it's like
now it's a serious crime
action thing. And I'm like, no, no, no.
Get stupid. Go back. And then you
have Jason Statham like going
back and like looking mournfully
at things and being like, yeah, once
was a guy. But now I'm a nor the
goy and uh and now i gotta kill you and like it's just like i there's a 90 minute crazy movie
there that they didn't make instead of making rather than instead they made a two hour movie
where it's like some of it is crazy yeah i mean so so we're saying here with with i s s it needed
to be a little crazy but not a not a complete strikeout i think it's yeah not enough if you're
interested if you're interested in the concept i think it is definitely worth watching it's
definitely yeah uh you know go out and
check it out because there is
there's stuff there. I think the performances are there. I mean, I do think
the zero gravity stuff was
very cool and very
fun to watch. It all looked very
fluid. And for a
small movie, you know, I think that
that was, I was like, wow, this is looking pretty
good for the scale of what the, you know,
the production seemed to be. Definitely, definitely.
So, yeah,
no, you could, you could definitely do worse
for sure.
So, all right, this, I'm really
curious because we haven't
talked about this
together at all yet
but true detective night country
who among us
is going along with this so far
two episodes we got everybody watched it all
yep you know thus far
it's early it's early but it's
it's reaping me the fuck out man I'm hopeful for
it you know obviously a lot you can compare to like
the thing or whatever and it's interesting and I'm going to keep
watching it and I hope it really gets there
I like Jody Foster a lot
Callie Rice is okay thus far.
A lot of sex scenes.
A lot of sex scenes.
It's quite for everyone.
It's HBO original program.
Yeah.
It's just which is really railed against something.
I mean,
that is the main reason I watch.
The story has not grabbed me the way the,
I mean,
even the second one,
at least I was like into it immediately.
This one I'm like,
we'll see where it's going.
But this is the only way I'm going.
get Jody Foster like I'm a man in the desert here I'm trying to find water and like I only can
only go to true detective season four to get my Jody Foster that's right listen Jody he'll shoot the
president for him he'll do look and I will do it correctly just to joke come on uh what about
did you see her and Annette Benning in the movie there about a net Benning's a swimmer or
niad or niad I think it's fine it's you know it's what
what are you going to do?
My thing with this true detective season is, I'm like,
are there like outright ghosts on this show now?
Probably. I'm betting, yes.
And there have not, to be clear, there have not been ghosts,
and or goblins or any supernatural elements in any of the other.
All right.
I mean, they try to kind of get you there in that first season with the yellow king or whatever.
But that's, dude, Steve, you're totally right, though,
because like, I haven't seen two or three.
We saw the first episode of two and fell off immediately.
But I'm watching this and I was like,
have they been introducing
like paranormal shit on this show?
Memory is a ghost in all those movies.
Go back to season
three and talk
because that's a dementia one and it's fun.
Yeah. Season three is great. I would say
yeah, Andrew, if you're looking for more
true detection, season three is fantastic.
Watching rehearsal and Stephen Dorf
go head to head is just so much
great shit. Oh, Stephen Dorff's the other guy?
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's fine.
I will say. Well, I got to watch myershal
and something because I'm not getting that goddamn
Blade movie.
They can't figure it out.
They can't figure it out.
You can't figure out.
You can't figure out.
Sword sunglasses,
mercial and that's the movie.
Back to True Detective.
Am I wrong?
Yeah.
Did we get like a Rust Cole's
possible brother going on here with Travis Cole?
Yes.
I think they're going to connect it to season one.
Oh, that's see.
I don't know if it's father,
but the captions have the names held the same.
Because it's what's,
it's Fiona Shaw,
whoever is like,
oh, Travis Cole showed me that the
bodies, Travis, Travis Cole.
Someone in the chat says it's his dad.
So I, right, but
season one took place in the
early 90s or something or was that
period or? I don't know.
It was. It did both.
But I guess a ghost, you don't have to
worry about ages for ghosts.
I guess it's true. If you're dead a while.
If you're going to do a ghost, you just do a ghost.
Liam Carroll seems to confirm
Travis Cole is Rust Cole's father.
Would that make Fiona Shaw
Russ Cole's mother then?
Quite possibly.
Possibly.
We don't know yet.
Do you think McConaughey is going to sashay in at like the final
levels of it?
Wow.
Pretty cold out here.
He's coming home for Christmas.
They de-age of like a 51-year-old Matthew McConaughey.
I tell you,
time is a flat shirt,
but man,
is it dark out all the time out here.
Wow.
That is something.
That's why you're to run all the way down to the bayou.
Get away from all that.
Yeah,
that's true.
I also appreciate
getting some John Hawks
in my entertainment quiet
it had been a long time I think since
I've seen that guy in fucking anything
right yeah and I will say
you got Christopher Ecclinson
running for Colton McElheny
now like they look exactly the same
how did that happen because he's got
like they both have the same
pattern baldness and now they're getting
the same that dude close crop
haircut yes
like Ecclinson's haircut in the show
yes yeah and he's
Ecclinson's looking a little, like, bigger.
Yeah, like working out, not like fatter.
Like, we're getting big.
We're going to swallow.
Bane syrup.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, all of the shit, like, you know, with the crime scene and everything, like,
it's very Hannibal.
Yeah.
Feeling, which is weird, too.
I mean, I'll take it.
But again, it's just so, so different from the true detective I've known.
Well, yeah, I mean, I would say even like the first one, the third one,
I was sure I was enjoying watching it
whatever the big arc was
I was enjoying each episode on their own merit
and that is not true of this
this I am more there are things I like
but I'm floating around in the hopes that I'm gonna like
the big arc once it comes together
I feel like that's my feeling right now on it
I will see of course you know
this is only two episodes I don't know how long it is
yeah I don't know either
what is true detective
They've all been eight episodes
Traditionally. I don't know if they're going to
do something different. I'm just, I'm telling you
right now, I am in like the worst mood with TV
right now because I just finished season two or Ritcher
and it is a piece of shit.
I am not done yet.
I have one left. The first
season was, did you like, I love
the first season. The second season, it's like I don't care about your
buddies. Your buddies, you didn't, why did they make
Jack Reacher part of the Avengers? Why the
fuck did it happen? Well, listen, I
I didn't get to Iron Man
showing up in the finale at so so i'll hold up yeah i mean but you know what i'd be like now he has a
group and he's like i don't like each of them have yeah and like it doesn't matter i don't care i
want the character like it doesn't matter i want he needs to be the fish out of water you know like
you can't be you can't be you know water in the fish what we go what we do we do here what are you
are you going to give railing given three people that matter as much as him in the same job
yes it's like if you had justified it's like if you had justify season two you're right and
There's three Raylan Givens hanging around.
I mean, that was the problem with that Ant Man movie.
And that's, I don't understand the desire to be like, oh, you liked it one time.
What if everyone can do that?
No, that's the point.
That's the guy that does that.
That's why I come to watch this thing.
That's the bad idea with Blade having a team or whatever that was supposed to be.
What are you doing?
Yeah, yeah.
I just, I don't get it.
It's, I mean, it's because you want, you can sell that as like, we're going to build out a universe.
This is how we make other shows.
We're going to have a Reacher's girlfriend, this show.
and you know
first of all get a better title
I reacher is like family man friend
the show like it's going to have
all those versions of it and you sell
it that way but it makes the show itself
a shit hole at the same time
it's fun enough just because I like seeing people get
killed that's sort of what I'm in
yeah oh yeah you love that
but I hope in season three
because it seems to be doing very well I can't imagine
them not doing a season three of Reacher I hope
that they go back to formula
By the way, I revisited those
Back to Formula
Apollinger. No, I know, thank you.
That was delightful.
I revisited the Tom Cruise movies.
Oh, the Reacher movies?
And the first one with Rutherhurtzog's good enough,
but the second one is God awful.
Horrible.
Oh, wow.
Stay tuned, that way.
Colby Soulders.
Co-lead? Are you kidding me?
No, I don't know why people try and trick me in the watch of that woman to do stuff.
She belongs number 32 on a
Marvel call sheet and have to see that.
That's another. That's what we're talking
best in a sweetie. I think she's great
and they just missed cast her. If you ever
seen Andrew Bischolski's results,
she's fantastic in it.
Oh shit, you're right. I do like
that movie. Fuck. Well, she's really
good. I take it back. Don't worry
that Samuel L. Jackson
secret
invasion show took
care of your problems. I noticed.
So that's a
They murdered her.
So you won't have to worry about her.
Oh,
okay.
I did not know.
Well,
good for her.
Uh,
yeah,
that movie's all,
that shows old enough.
And no one watched it anyway.
So,
you know,
whatever.
It's like,
it's the inciting incident
of the series.
Sure.
Oh,
not really that much of a spotlight.
No,
who gives you.
Anyway,
I guess jury is still out,
uh,
for a couple of y'all on,
uh,
true detective.
I'm in.
It's fucking weird.
I'm,
I'm not watching.
Yeah.
I'm in.
Yeah.
Um,
I've just also,
because I've been seeing it in the chat. I think I'm the only one
that took the leap. I did really like
Echo, by the way, the Disney
show there. Brutal as
fuck, really good fight choreography,
good family story, and DeNafrio
in almost every episode
reprising as Kingpin.
Only one daredevil
sighting, but I did see, do you guys see
they started refilming that shit? Because it's going to be all
like reimagined or
totally done. What?
They stopped shooting
the Daredevil show, the new one.
Born again.
Again?
Well, no, no.
They stopped it.
And then it was like,
we're creatively retooling it.
And now, like,
I think tomorrow or today, actually,
they start filming whatever the new thing is going to be.
It's going to be hard for me to do any Marvel TV anymore.
We're never seen any of these movies.
Blades not happening.
This movie's not happening.
Like, just stop it.
I just feel like either way.
Poor Charlie Cox is like William Shatner in that Twilight
episode.
Is it coming?
Is Daredeville Bordigan?
coming out next year? Is it coming out the year
after that? Can I leave?
Can I leave? Tickets out of a mouth
of a clown or whatever that was.
Yeah, well, okay, yeah, keep doing this and like,
well, yeah, because what else is he going to do? Are they going to try
to, like, a prequel
version of his character from fucking boardwalk
Empire? Is that what he's going to do?
I would like that. He's 30 years too old
for it now, but at that point. Yeah, but that would be
nice.
But, yeah, I don't know. Anyway,
see Echo. It's a quick, it's like
five of them, I think.
I keep meaning to get through it
I want to. Yeah. They're all like 40 something
minutes. It flies by. I watched it all
in a single sitting.
So real quick, this is a weird
thing because it came out January 2nd.
I received it in the mail
January 12th.
But a little bit of home media mania
here. Criterion put out
the Apu trilogy, the Satajit Ray
trilogy of movies, which
are just some of the most masterful movies
ever made. Pothor
Ponchali, Aparaget
Jito and Upper Sansar
make up the three movies.
The first one
sort of like put
India's
drama cinema in like
international conversation. It was a huge
hit. I think John Houston was who
brought it to New York
City or something like that.
But these are all like literally restored
from ashes. The fucking negatives
burned in a fire and they
this was like the Academy Film Archive
and La Magine
Retraviata in Italy like worked
painlessly to restore these movies. They look
gorgeous. Essays by
fucking Terry Rafferty, great filmmaker,
and Geree Shambu,
both great film writers
in this. If you
are interested in a place to start
with Indian cinema, these three movies
100% pick up
this set from Criterion.
You will not regret it. Incredible.
Their work with the Ray stuff,
they've been very good about Ray movies.
Yeah. And they've all
been really well preserved.
Yeah, and those are just three
excellent movies in a little pack there
to go for that. But that's going to do it for this
week, gang. It's good
to be back, of course. Just some
reminders about stuff here. Oh, here was
the... I think I didn't put up.
Anyway, so stuff that's out on Patreon,
of course, speaking of McConaughey,
Agent Elvis was covered on
animation, damnation last week.
Just a real
15 years too late cartoon there.
And then a character that just never
got to thrive in her glory.
Lady Valeria
The Gleap Glacery
The poor pig lady
Yes and if you don't care about the pig lady
You have to listen to this episode
For Steve getting stuck in
Some financial trouble
Exactly, that's part of why I had to go away
For a little while because some narc-ass fan
Was it like, do you remember
When you made a bet so many years ago?
Do you remember?
And then thank you fan
Because then I got that $100 and then suddenly
Steve's going to Dr. Nick Riviera's clinic
and he's taking even longer
to recover
exactly
he got that
that hundred bucks
didn't last that long
how's that tape
treat yeah
the tape's ready to go too
everything must go
we need to make money here
I am really
fucking in too deep
it's not a joke
it's not a joke
please help
what's also not a joke
is tomorrow
we're releasing
the next we ate movies
on expendables
expendables
for the dumbly titled
sequel. Voibles.
Voibles. Speaking of movies, no one was
asking for. And you can catch that puppy
ad free on the Patreon at the $8 level
and up. And
stay tuned for later in the week. Thursday.
All new Melro 210.
This one's pretty ridiculous on
both ends of the show. Long one
too. We win the jumbo size episode.
But I'm sorry, Joe is on trial for
murder and we just went long.
We had to talk a lot about that. Yes, we had to talk
about her. Yes. Oh, my God.
Get out soon.
Yes.
And then on the Nexus, of course, that's going to drop on Friday.
Charles Napier shirtless playing shitty music on TOS.
Sick, dude.
Oh, my God.
It's, it's something.
If you want to, if you want to see a narrative in our show here, you can watch as Andrew
says there's no, Charles Manson's music is not good.
There's nothing even slightly worse than it in the Asian Elvis episode.
And then come to the Nexus episode where he does indeed find song that are worse than.
Charles Manson songs.
Yes. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it for myself, Chris.
Being played by Jonathan Demme favorite Charles Napier.
Yes, this is a nexus worth it for everyone wants to hear Chris freak out for 90 minutes.
I love it.
It's off.
You were so angry.
It was really, it was a pretty pretty funny.
Fuck, I have.
Well, that's fine.
It was pretty funny.
So patreon.com slash we hate movies for all that.
That's going to do it for this week.
We're stuck to be back.
Thanks for tuning in until next week.
I've been Andrew Jupin.
Steven Zadek.
Eric Siskin.
Chris Cabin.
Have a good one, folks.
Adios.