We Hate Movies - S14: On-Screen Live 1.29.24 Sundance 2024, Doug Liman's Road House Debacle, Our Night Swim Review & More!

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

This week on OSL, we're checking in on a few films from this year's Sundance Film Festival, including Kneecap, Dìdi, and Skywalkers: A Love Story; reviewing the now-streaming haunted pool film, Night Swim; reacting to the trailer for the new Road House motion picture, along with the headache that Doug Liman is getting from Amazon over it; analyzing the weekend box office, paltry as it is; and taking a look at a pretty terrible Secret Movie™️ directed by Gunner himself, Dolph Lundgren! On-Screen Live airs Mondays @ noon/EST on our YouTube and Twitch channels, so subscribe to the show on both! Be sure to catch us TOMORROW NIGHT, February 1 at 9pm/est when we chat about The Flash LIVE! Get your tickets now! The show's got a 7-day replay window if you can't watch the night-of! And remember, if you're downloading this episode on the day it's released, January 31st, 2024, that means you have until 11:59pm/EST TONIGHT to get your Listener Request Month calls in, as well as any Patreon request emails you might be sending. Don't hesitate, or you'll have to wait a whole year to try and request something again! Dial 1-833-WHM-GANG for We Hate Movies requests, and write to [e-mail] for Patreon requests! This March, you tell us what to watch!

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Woo-hoo! Whoa, what is going on, everybody. On screen live, my name is Andrew Jupin. Good afternoon, good evening, good morning, wherever the heck you might be finding us. If you're catching us live here on the internet, chat going crazy. What's up, Osiris 87, Sandwich Jones, Dakota Green, I'm So Rachel, sucked. Eddie Fails, son. Oh, yeah, this chat fucking exploding.

Love you all out there. Gary Miles, Joe Myers. Hazer Juan Canobe over on Twitch. How you doing, Big Daddy? good morning everybody going to bring in going to bring in my buds we're going to talk about grosses

we're going to wish some people some happy birthday going to talk about Doug Lyman's getting fucked by Amazon all sorts of stuff up first you know him you love him and we've missed him and we're glad he's back Mr. Stephen Sadek

Eddie you like you just Steve changed his name in the green room this is a surprise to me everyone had a lot of fun names that I didn't have one I was like, what's on my mind?

Oh, yeah, I watched Diad this weekend, and it sucked so much shit. Jody Foster, innocent. Great, great performance by her. Everything else is absolutely horrible. You're just watching like Annette Benning, pruning in the water and whatnot? Pretty much.

She's Annette Bedding and round, but the weird thing is there's so much documentary footage because it's made by two documentary, what he called, film directors. So that you kind of lose the point of like, why am I even watching an net bedding? Why are we making this narrative

when you have all this, like, great documentary footage. Yeah. That's, that's really annoying. So I'm going to write Nyad sucks tattooed right here just as they know going forward. Yeah. No stranger to getting back tattoos when he doesn't like a movie. Good morning, Eric Siska. Hello, good morning. Yes. That movie, Steve, I don't think that exists.

That the father, Coda, no one has seen those. It's not one in for two Oscars. And I mean, like, you know, like, that's the weird thing. I mean, like, you know, we can have the argument about Greta Gerwig and all that stuff. and those are fine arguments to have, but you could so easily swap in both Natalie Portman and Julianne Moore for both of those

nominees, and you'd be in much better shape for both categories. May December robbed by the account. Totally. Absolutely robbed for this dog shit movie. Speaking of Rob, this dude fucking loves robin the book barn every week. Here's Chris Cabin. Of course, then we went to KFC,

it was closed at an early 8 p.m. What was not closed was Bojangles which was across the street. Oh, sure. I watched Werner get in there and he asked for a full meal and they said that they were out of everything except for thighs.

I saw him throw a soda at a young man. And many Germans were yelling at the one. Show to do. Come on. It all fucking morning. morning to read, dude. Oh, my God.

You know, you think you'd say, oh, come on. You read so much you think you'd be smarter by now. No, no. Wow. Reading makes you dumber. That's the, I mean, that's the classic thing. Right, right. Much stupter.

Chris Gavin, quick question. Yeah. Is that a new Def T-Tones T-shirt? It's a, yes, it is. That's pretty sick. Did you see them in concert or something? No, a friend gave me it when they went to see them. Ah, very cool.

The old pick-up merch for me. Uh-huh. Yes, I was. giving them a drop like oh do it please I can order this on the internet you know maybe reading doesn't make you dumber but I think

aging makes you a little dumber we got some birthdays here I'm stupid people getting a year older I don't know we'll see this dude I don't know probably definitely brain pilled happy 79th birthday to Tom Selleck wow man yeah you'll find hiding in the bells of CBS

he's now actually pushing he's done reverse mortgages. I was doing interdimensional mortgages, which are just another way to fuck old people. Yeah, if you want me to put your house safely in the quantum realm, sign up. Remember he kept getting in trouble for like watering

his plants? He has like an avocado farm and he was like a big drought in California. Like oh and he was like, hey everybody, please stop watering your shit and he was like, I have an avocado farm. That feels like a century ago. But yes, now it is.

I'm scratching back. It probably was a century ago. I think years are now decades in my mind. It's just, it feels so hard to go on and on, right, folks? Well,

look, but William Devane cannot get all of the joys and pleasures from this. You can not be the one that gets all the riches. It's true. Some people, other people have to get some amount on this.

Speaking of rich people, the big 7-0 for total global legend, Oprah Winfrey. Wow. Oh. Which I would not have to guess Oprah 70. Not at all.

when you think about her career, but it's like, sure. She don't look at no, no, no, no, no. But I assume she's much like the Baron Harkonan can float over things and command people at her will. Yes, sure, I can see that. You get a body plug, you

get a body plug. We all get body plugs. If you ever meet her, remember the tooth. Oh, no. Dune references. I forgot a, I don't know what the hell I did with the photograph, but happy 56th birthday to Ed Burns, filmmaker, actor, Eddie Burns, 56 years old, yeah.

Probably looks 70, I'm guessing. No, I'm sure he looks better than I do. That's for sure. Well, you look 72. Yeah, it's true. You got to, you don't know with Eddie Burns, though, man. Like, all the, all the aging from like smoking, arguing with your family. And the Irish don't age well.

That's a real thing. It's true. It's hard. Many things can grow on the noses. Mm-hmm. Uh, happy, uh, 54th birthday to roller girl herself, Heather Graham. Oh, anybody see that new movie? It's her and Barbara Crampton that's on, um, shutter. It's another, uh, Oh, the horror. Uh, fuck. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. This is how I'm hearing about it.

It's like some, um, some, uh, like, psycho swaps into Heather Graham's body or something like that. It looks kind of neat. I've got to, no, I watch a vaguely racist Christmas movie. She did, uh, Over the Christmas. Oh, what is this? Her and Brandy. What was it? I don't even know what it was. You could waterboard me.

I wouldn't know the name of it. But what's it about though? I got it. Best Christmas ever. And you bet you're asked, there's an exclamation mark in the title. It's brand. It's like,

it's like keeping up with the Joneses, but because it's a white family, like looking at a black family, it's very strange to me. It's very like, it's very like, look at all those people. Where do they get off?

Be it better than us. Randy has built a life as a successful aeronautics engineer but Heather Graham is like getting her Christmas letter every year and she's like Brandy's families faking it they're not that successful these are all lies that's not their house

and I'm like why don't you give her a call and check in this sounds like the best Christmas ever yeah it's super sucked and also happy 45th birthday to former teen heartthrob and possible cult leader Andrew Keegan. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah.

I wanted to make sure that that was still going before I joined up, you know? Did you check it out? Is it still happening? I'm planning on joining a cult of the fall. I have a couple of welcome packets from a different couple different ones. You know, I'm sure.

They get a long pass, like, try us out kind of things. They get a bad rap for no reason. You got these old people going to the Catholic church or the Freemasons or the Elk Lodge, but you can't have a little sex branding party with your friends. Well, that's, I remember you being on the fence about Nexium before

the, it all came crashing down. Yeah, yeah. I think I'm pro now. You are pro Nexium? Okay. I would love to be pro nexium. It's like going to a Battlestar Galatical convention. Like, ooh, look at her. Look at her. That's exciting. Oh, look at all these war-ed-out celebrities here at this cult meeting. Excellent.

Are we all Are we all trying to hunt down Gaddafi's gold or what? And instead of getting a cool autograph for your DVD collection, they brand themselves on your genitals. It's fine. I'm sure some of the events are you just have some cake and walk around and talk. I'm sure there's some normal events. Do you think the woman who played young Aunt Baru was like, they would like do Star Wars screenings a lot? It was like kind of like a Kevin Smith vibe.

Like she was always there for a Q&A. Oh, absolutely. Oh, I'll fucking talk. you're off about the prequals. Let's do it. Another Q&A with that Bonnie or whatever. You're selling it to me. You're selling it to me. Well, like, yeah, you can book that as like

a talk about my career and you mix in the nexium stuff right in there. You open it up very easily. That's how you slither in there, dude. That's exactly right. Oh, yes. So those are the birthdays. We're going to get to some box office mumbo jumbo now. Kind of a weird

nothing week because man, January is just the worst for movies. This is highest gross. This was kind of great because I didn't have to get any new poster art. I just had to shuffle the order of shit. So I appreciated that very much. So fourth last week, fifth this week, anyone but you? No, man.

I have not still. But I will say, you know, having a rom-com in the mayor, is a sign of a healthy ecosystem. Agreed. I feel like this might survive solely on the Sidney Sweeney, Hot Ones meme. This might keep going for another week at least. What is this?

Can you explain this meme to Granddad over here? Okay, so there is a show called Hot Ones, Grandfather. I know that much. I know that. I know the person. Now, combine them for me. Paint the picture. What do you think?

She went on the show. And like, she's very sexy. eating chicken wings. Oh, that's definitely doing it for people. Absolutely. I've kind of detached from social media in a bit. I've kind of not been logging on. So I've been missing all the great memes. Oh, you're missing so many great memes. Bettering your mental health, dude. That's exactly what you're doing.

I wish it was, but no. I'm going to say. I don't know. You know, it's weak. Here's the thing, Andrew. Yes, it's negative to like doom scroll, as they say. Yes. But sitting in a dark room, sipping whiskey, getting more and more bitter. is not better for your mental health. That's true. You're right. Eric wasn't actually doing

anything constructive. Adding bullet numbers to the revenge list. I hold the grudge, folks. Yeah, you know what? Steve, you're right. But anyway, this is another $4.8 million. This only had a $25 million budget, so it's a, it's safe to say it's a total success. Similarly, with migration. Look at these guys. They're just trying to get home.

or whatever. Those ducks are goddamn adorable. I'll never see that movie, but those ducks are cute. There you go. Yeah, this will probably be like I always get the big animated things done like six months after they come out. Like I know like Chris was right there for

Puss and Boots the last wish like opening weekend. We all know that. But I waited like, you know, six, seven months. Then I saw it. And I was pleasantly surprised. I feel it's going to happen with migration. Also like it's January now. It's January now. You can't be

watching a migrate, a bird migrating in the fall movie. Now I've got to wait until like, you know, next November's. My Joe is on the floor. I thought that there's a fourth despicable bee coming out this summer. Couldn't believe it. It's only four. We're only, well, but the minions are separate. I see.

Okay. Okay. So I guess that we're probably due to do an episode of one of those that. I think sadly, yeah. I actually put it on schedule. Thank you. Thank you so much, Stephen. thank you you know here's something crazy though like i saw the the trailer for migration obviously and like the animation looked really good you know really professional grade stuff that movie cost just where's my numbers now 70 million dollars we watched that as soon as I'm talking about we watch

elemental over the weekend so big animated movie from whatever the fuck it came out i finally just watched it yeah and it also yes looks very good but where is the difference in 130 million dollars that i could not tell you. I don't know how Elemental was 200 million. Migration was 70 million. There was something about them hiring a bunch of like they did too much subcontracting. Like they got

a bunch of different animation houses to work on it at the same time. And that had made them go over budget because much a damn went over budget. Also the cocaine and the naked models to eat sushi off of. That was all the problem. You got to do all that.

And I mean, that little flame had a cocaine problem. saying. Keeps on cooking it. He's just got to smoke it, I guess. They find love in the end, don't they? Andrew, I'm just assuming. They do. I mean, it's not a bad movie.

It was just kind of like, all right. Yeah. On to the next one, I guess, Pixar. They haven't had like a big, like, oh my God, Pixar back at a movie.

They haven't been inventive in forever. Not to get on a Pixar. Like Inside Out, maybe is the last one. That was like, that was the last big. And wait for this year with Inside Out, too.

Still haven't, still happy. Yeah, you're fine. Still haven't, still happy. It'll be a rental for me. Wonka in at 3. This thing successfully will have it. It blows my mind. I can't believe this is so successful.

I guess, you know, the Timothy factor is definitely at play. I was hoping we were getting to the point where we were just over, we're getting over franchises in general. No, and remakes, but we're not. This is only going to add fuel to the fire. This or the kid, kids, stuff you can't stop from

franchise. That's always going to have that. I don't think you're going to I think what you're probably saying is like yeah MCU we've been seeing a little bit of a dip but all the other ones seem to be doing just fine. I mean when was the last Willy Wonka movie Eric like 2005 or whenever Tim Burton did

that movie the franchise is geared up ready. Yeah the next time I see Timmy he'll be wearing a still suit I guarantee it that's that's going to go. I'm excited for that one speaking of franchise too. Absolutely. But this movie, over $550 million globally. I mean, it's just insane. I thought the first look at him in that hat and the get up, I was like, this is a failure. So, hey, happy to be wrong. Happy the box office did as well as it did. Oh, really? I hate being wrong. I fucking know. No, I know. I know. Because you're a fucking stilted adult, dude. I really do hate it. Speaking of stuff that I would probably hate

The Mean Girls Musical Dropping from the top slot here Another one I got wrong I did not think this would do as well as it did But I don't know what the kids are to They're watching hot ones They're listening to show tunes or whatever So there you go

Well here's the thing Eric I mean you were wrong about this I was wrong about this We could be executives at Paramount Because those motherfuckers wanted to put this on P-plus exclusive. Yeah. They were about to bypass the theatrical.

Yeah. It's true. I mean, yeah. You go, Chris. Eric, sorry. Oh, no, I was going to say I definitely could be an executive, but go ahead. Well, you'd be better than David Zazlov. No matter what you did, Eric, you'd have to be better than David.

I don't know if you give me that power. I might be deleting movies, too. Fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah, you know, it's whatever. It's 80 some odd global. Like, it did okay. Like, it's not holding pretty well, you know, that well.

But, I mean, it's an option for people to go out and go to the theater, folks. I'm glad to Paramount reconsidered that. And, uh, wow, look at this. Crawling its way up to the top again, beekeeper. How? How? I need to see it. There's nothing.

There's nothing going on, dude. I'm sorry, you guys last week, you know, you gave it sort of middling reviews. It's still about a secret society of beekeepers. I still need to see this movie. I do need to see it as well. Yeah. You do. No, you absolutely do. Fake water in the desert is better than

no water in the desert. Exactly. Are my movies an oasis in the desert? And then just really quickly, some elsewhere around the box office, zone of interest, which we talked to you all about out of New York Film Festival.

A nice little 1.1 million this week. I haven't seen that. That's the documentary on Discovery Zone, the rise and fall of. Yes, exactly. They're talking to so many former foam padding magnates. And that's, that sick,

kids. That sick bastard that started that, that zone there. He decided to move his family next to. It's disgusting. Oh, it's so disgusting. They don't even,

they don't get into the rivalry with Chuck E cheese. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Like, you're not going to get that. Great. Now we're envisioning Chris. And now I'm envision a mashup of zone of interest in five night at Freddy's.

And that would be. I'm sure. I'm sure that would be great. But yeah, Zone, you know, nominations help, man. It added itself, well, it's up to 315 screens, which is pretty wild, up from 275. It's a good movie, chilling, chilling movie. Very, very chilling. Also doing some stuff around the art market, searchlight pictures, all of us strangers,

you know, which I think is a good movie. It wasn't great IMO, but hey, 4002K, not too shableness. I like people going out and seeing these smaller movies. And Eric, I got this one in for you, dude. News from the box office front. Opie. Yes. Yeah. Another milestone. The little movie

that could, I guess. Crosses $90 million in IMAX sales alone in the United States. Congratulations. It's crazy. And that IMAX gross dude worldwide, 187 million $20% of

of this movie's fucking gross is IMA sales. are you going back Eric is it going to happen it depends it depends I don't know if it's going to happen for sure because you know I was looking at the IMAX seating charts they're already like sold they were sold out the wazoo so it's like if I wanted

to be in the front so I probably end up won't I probably won't be going back but I got the 4K and I'm always tempted I always tell my wife Oppenheimer she's always like no never never again Oppenheimer tonight queen

but you did see tenant in iMacs though eric right no just theater theater to see no no i actually because i know that that's coming back out in theaters and i want to have an opinion about it again before it got there oh oh got i bought i bought the 4k during the pandemic and i gave tenant a spin again this weekend and i liked it more the first time but i still don't think it's really getting there um they do talk about oppenheimer in the movie which is kind of a problem Because now I'm just like, Oppenheimer afterwards. And another three-half-hour movie? Yeah, I don't know.

We'll see. I might go see it in theaters. I would like to. Big screen do. Hey, speaking of seeing things, you can see us pretty soon, everybody, including this Thursday. Oh, boy. Yeah.

I can't believe it's finally fucking here. Yeah. I can't believe it. I can't, yeah. This Thursday, this Thursday, Moment. dot CO slash we ate movies. Tickets are available now. 9 p.m. Eastern. We're going to be doing a live episode. It's going to be a ton of fun. And there's an after party where I'm sure Chris is going to get fall down drunk again. Every time. It's definitely it. It's definitely me. It's you. Full on

dreading the rewatch. Full on. Oh, yeah. Capital Dreading the rewriting. I still have not. Still have not you're going to hate it you are going to be in hell who among us had their soul die in the theater yeah i wouldn't yeah okay chris you didn't see in the theater i mean well no i did i see it with cameron we hung out we had we had a nice weekend oh cameron ripley how was uh how's his friend dr torrentino well you know Cameron ripley and and the doc uh they took a vacation as they do in january you know they don't really they don't get back into the movie go in spirit until early February when the big hits start coming out and then they're ready to go

Cameron has been calling me though and he's he wishes everybody a happy holiday Oh, that's sweet of him. Thank you Cameron. That's good. But this Thursday folks, moment.com slash we hate movies. We're going to be live talking the flash if you can't make it. The replay's good for a week after the broadcast

so don't worry about making it that night if you got something going on. We get it. Hey folks, life gets in the way sometimes. We're all busy as fuck. Seven days after the replay. And then IRL gang, we are going on the road this spring. First up, we're hitting Atlanta, Georgia for the first time in seven years. So that's definitely the better part of a decade.

425. We're at City Winery, guys. Can you believe that? I can't believe it. You know what? I don't think this venue is going to smell at mozzarella sticks. Cannot guarantee you, though. I don't know.

We've played city wineries before. They're classy joints. They're nice. They're very nice. Good food as well, folks. Yes, very tasty. You don't want to put us, I want to throw us under the bus.

Okay. Tune in next week on On Screen Live when we announce movies for all of these. Yes, we're going to go finally. There you go. We need a deadline next week. Yes. Big reveal next week.

Thank you for doing that, Steve. Now our feet are to the fire. We've got to figure out these fucking movies. Now we have to do it. Yeah, because, you know, we got to, you know, there's always stuff floating around our noodles, but you want to make sure it's like just right. Something that's going to be fun for the crowd.

you know, something that the crowd's going to want to rewatch again, you know. So we will figure those out. That's right, Steve. Next Monday on onscreen live, we will reveal what we'll be talking about not only in Atlanta, Georgia, on April the 25th. Houston Tejas folks are Houston debut, Space City, May the 14th at the Houston Improv. How about that?

Do you need to learn stolen baseball signals to go to Houston? Or is that just something everybody goes? Yeah, I think only if you're, looking to get a, like, residential citizenship, honey, you know what I mean? Residential status. Yes. You know, got to learn how to steal them signs. I'll make that joke here. I'm making

it there. I'll tell you that much. No, dude, they'll put a fucking arrow through you or something. Don't beat you to death. They'll beat you to death. Nobody's getting beaten to death. We have a great fucking time of the Houston from. Jesus Christ, Eric. All right, all right. Yeah, I'm

kidding around. It's Texas. There's guns. And 515. in Austin, Texas. We're also, things will be fine. Maybe. We'll be at the Cap City Coffield. It will be. It's going to be a fun night.

I'm sorry. Everything's going to be fine tour. Good, dude. There you go, dude. That is the name of the tour for the whole year. Everything will be fine tour. We're going to be, I'm so we can say it now. We're doing pay it forward.

That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. The no plate crashes tour of 2024. I am just, So excited to get back to Atlanta, Georgia, Houston, Texas, first time. And Austin, Texas, been meaning to get back to Austin, Texas. So come on out to these shows.

Yes, please do. Austin, not during South by Southwest. Also another plus for when we're coming. Oh, my God. Yeah, you could breathe in there finally. Get a hotel room. We have both of those things much more easily. That's something we got to do too.

That's right. Ticks at WHM Podcast.com, folks. All right. So, yeah, we've been kind of talking about this for a little bit. I thought this was a bigger story than it was. But you guys weren't hip to it. So maybe I just have more invested in the trailer segment trailer, I guess we'll be talking about here. In a segment, well, we call trailer segment.

So Doug Lyman has remade Roadhouse with Jake Gyllenhaal in for Swayze, rest in peace. Yes. And I'm of the mind that looks kind of fun. Okay. That's just me. No one else has seen this trailer. I have not seen it.

I'm saving it for this historic occasion. Yes. I'm going to throw this out to the chat. Has anyone remade a movie? of a former co-star of theirs like we have right here because you've got Dottie Darko, Patrick

Swayze is in Donnie Darko with Jake G and now he's doing Roadhouse and now this is kind of a, let's think this through we'll all do some research on that but I'm curious that's a really oh fuck that's really good and I'm thinking Steve we got to get our buddy

Corey Everett on the phone from the Cinefile game this sounds like a Cinefile round you can make a game out of this. Remaking co-stars movies somehow. Ooh, that's good. Yeah, chat, do your thing and see about that. Yeah, so I don't know. We'll see you guys. We'll see what you have to say about this and then

we'll give the detail about the atrocity that's happening on Amazon. This will be my first time through this trailer as well. All right. And folks watching along, of course, down in the show description, you can find the exact link to the official Prime Video channel. That's where we're going to watch the trailer.

So you can watch along with us or not totally fine. But we're going to watch through this guy. Roadhouse, 2024, directed by Doug Lyman. Three, two, one, go. Before we start, do you have insurance? What? Your coverage good? Yep.

Oh, yeah. Oh, ha-ha. Is there a hospital nearby? Is it too far? I just slapped you. Are you right? What? Yes.

Yes. he's just dropping dudes oh yeah like slap fighting no yeah nice nice no one ever wins a fight nice oh yeah but he's sensitive guys

oh yeah sure oh yeah oh it used to be you say uh well remember guys Patrick Swayze was also sensitive so oh yes I mean from it Takira oh he's in a fight club though

mm-hmm All right, how many times do we say in Roadhouse in this movie? Probably a lot. I feel like they say it a couple times in Roadhouse, the OG. Yeah, you're probably like that. You're right. Is there going to be an AI Ben Gazera in this movie? Dude, that would be a perk for me.

Yeah, totally. Or you know, they could do the, like, Ghostbusters afterlife route and have a, have a, have a CGI ghost of, Patrick Swayze here? That's a good idea. Let's get frost all over him for no reason. He holds his fist.

It's like, I can help you punch. Oh, Roadhouse on a boat. I like this. Dude, Boathouse. This Billy Magnuson guy has never not played a scumbag and he does it really well.

All right, here we go. Look at this. Look at this cartoon character. Or is this, what should we call it? Connor McGregor. Is he, is he the Ben McGregor? Is he the Ben-Gazara or is he...

So he's not Sam Elliott. No. No, no, no, no. He's more the Ben-Gazara. Got it. Well, I guess Billy Magnuson's maybe more than Ben-Gazara. I forget who the muscle was. Oh, God, dude, no.

The jacket. The Joker. He's playing the Joker. We got like boat fights. We got car. fights. People seem a little aggressive around here. Hmm.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It looks like it does have some exciting set pieces. Sure. Broke his arm. Oh. I like that there is a very, like, similar kind of comedy vibe to, which that kind of, whatever you want to call that comedy mode, that's the comedy mode that Jake

Jill and all can do really well, I think. But so anyway, the craziness of this is like, this trailer comes out and everybody gets really excited and then it's like, no theatrical whatsoever for this movie. Absolutely no theatrical footprint straight to streaming. And that did not settle well

with director Doug Lyman who was fucking furious, like immediately posted all this stuff about how it was like crazy that this wasn't happening. And he's now boycotting the Southby premiere of his own movie. It's interesting. I mean, look, if Bekeeper can make money, I wonder if it was

a thing of like, hey man, can you get this ready for January? Because I mean, if this movie's got January written all over. Sure. Absolutely. Because you're not going to put out one 40 February, but March, you're getting a little dicey. No, no, no. No, movie's coming out. You know what I mean?

Also, like, put it out when like a lot of the country, like it's cold out. So like, you're looking at beautiful, you know, Florida Keys weather, cool, you know. But so yeah, Doug, totally being vocal about this, which I think is the right move. Jillen Hall, I think, was like maybe looking to get into it too.

Yeah, I heard that something like his rep sent like a screener to Jeff Bezos personally to watch on some yacht and Jeff Bezos watched it and was like, nah, streaming. Nice. The boat theater did not take it well. Maybe because it was too mean against boats. You know, there's all these boat fighting. He's like, hey, I love my boats. I am against violence against boats. I think it's wrong.

Okay. Well, it was fine, except they blew up the yacht at the end. It's kind of weird because I was watching it on a yacht. It's like watching my best friend die. Yeah, you shouldn't let that Mr.

Clean motherfucker decide what happens with your slate. You know what I mean? That guy doesn't know anything about this business. I'm shocked he would be making those. Like, I feel like that would be something

like a minion of his would be doing. Like, come on. Aren't you balancing global power over there, come on. Yeah, you know, he's not doing anything, dude, you know, he's taking, he's going to space to take a dump. Now this movie's speaking of dump, this movie's just going to get dumped and no one's going to see it. Oh, yeah, because like, you think Netflix is bad at burying movies? Oh my God. Amazon puts them to shen you. Amazon will hide your movie. And I think that honestly, this should, like, I'm glad Lyman's being vocal about this. And I really

think it should open some eyes, like, you know, on the one hand, streamers having all this money to pick up all these movies or whatever has been helpful as far as like supporting smaller filmmakers or whatever. But if you're an established filmmaker like Affleck and Doug Lyman and all these people and you're looking to get in bed with places like Amazon, I'm begging you

put in a contract clause that's like and by the way we're making this movie with you everybody's going to make money on it whether it's streaming or whatever you have to put this out in theaters in some people like write that into your shit. Yeah. I mean I just

don't know how many people like even have that level of power though like i i just read the story about dev petel's uh directorial debut monkey man which was supposed to just go directly to netflix uh for the longest time and then jordan peel saw it and was like no i would like it to come out in theaters and he paid he became a producer on the movie he's like i'll pay netflix a certain amount of money we're going to put this out with i think universal is going to put it out now yeah because it's not even yes uh that's pretty dope and it's like it looks great the monkey man we didn't get to cover yet but it does it looks fantastic it does um so like i i think by having good like asking showing this to people and being like hey put it out there

you like it you would like to see on the theater it's the best you can do now like everything else all other options are exhausted because streaming takes over everything but like get people to like go go go for your movie maybe you got something maybe you can put it up there uh and credit where credits to nest in the chat said edward norton remade Manhunter and was in the 25th hour with Brian Cox So that's

Ooh I would say that's close But no cigar Because it's not the same character He would need to be in a movie With with with Will With what's his face there Oh William Peterson

William Peterson But no this that totally counts That's very close That's very close But yeah If you want the perfect alignment Of what Steve's talking about here Where they're playing the same character

But it is it is very good call Neth You know that Robocop remake might have might be good for this game. I don't know if it is, but I know there's a lot of people in there like Samuel Jackson, Gary Oldman, Michael Keaton. Hmm. Has Joel Kidman never been in a movie with Peter Weller? Good question.

They could play father and son. True, robot father and son. All right, Steve. Here's a movie about a pretty lousy father, I'd say. You told me not to watch it, but I did rent it last night. and I didn't want you to be alone here. Oh, good. Swim.

Working on my night swim. Last week, I was crying about not having a good January horror movie. And this week, I will continue to do so. Yeah. It's not good. I mean, either this or Founders Day is good. No, I mean, not even good horror. I was looking for, like, again, like a by-bye man.

Yeah. Yeah. An escape room, like, good kills. This movie just, it just doesn't have it. It's about a haunted pool. It's about a haunted pool. Am I the only one that did not watch this one? Yeah.

I mean, this movie asks and answers the question, is it a good idea to make a movie about a haunted pool? And the answer is resoundingly no. We're right. Is it a good idea to stack the cast of your haunted pool movie? Because you have Kerry Conton just coming out of the panties of it. Academy Award nominee Carrie Condon as. the mom in ghost pool

and Wyatt Russell and the fucking high maintenance guy's hanging out. Oh yeah. Dude, high maintenance guy is like high maintenance guy cleaning a pool. That's all that's going on there. Which is fine. You almost give me a deadly game of chicken fight, which I'm like, maybe

but then you push the out at the end of it. A steroid trek. That was a good one. That was a good one. Yeah. Because this is like here's the thing. You know, like this recalls the terrible film. deathbed, the bed that eats?

Yes. Better movie. Oh yeah, because that movie you are getting the death bed. Like that thing is worked over time in that movie. This is all like coy.

Is there a ghost in the pool? Oh, somebody may be drowned. Like that boyfriend character, like, and this is in the trailer where they're playing Marco Polo, that boyfriend character

should be fucking capital D dead, dude, are you kidding me? Exactly. Why did you not kill that guy? Also, ghosts belong in lakes. Yes, I agree, actually. on that one. Well, dude, that's the thing, Eric. There's something

about, like, blah-bidi-blow. This used to be a haunted crick 300 years ago. You know what? You're selling me on it. You know, you built this on a haunted crick is what you did. That's what it is. Yep.

That's one part. That's where we're like, all right, we already are skittish about our haunted pool idea. And then when it's like, oh, you swallowed the pool water now you're evil. It's like, all right, now. No, always has to be in the pool. Everybody needs to be in and around the pool. You can't be leaving

the pool doing scary stuff. Yeah, chlorine will make you evil. Don't eat it. Any day. And like, this, I mean, what they're doing, this is Amityville horror. Yes. Oh, because that's, I mean, and those movies are boring as sin. Except for the what, the one, the one with

Bert Young is fucking nuts. Whoa. That one is crazy. If you ever get a chance to see it. I might need to go through all those. It's the second or third one and Bert Young's the father. It is one of like the darkest films I've never seen they're probably amping up the domestic violence by 20 to 30% yeah really

severely it's crazy but yeah otherwise they're boring as sin those movies but yeah it was oh Eric there's no way you're going to watch all of those Amityville's because I think I think it was our good buddy Josh Lucas Lewis excuse me who watched all of those

because the Amityville things kind of like a fair use whatever so there's like 30 of those movies watched I kind of meant the the ones that were made of money. Yes. No, exactly. What's what we're released.

Yeah, so anyway, fucking fucking death pool, what night swim? It's like, it's so, it's so tame. You know? It is so tame. You have to lean into the stupidity of your concept for this.

Like, it would have been fun, but we're really just trying to take ourselves so seriously with a haunted pool movie. Because we're trying to do like, you know, oh, it's about something. It's not about anything. It really is. it about anything. It's not about like,

oh, man, isn't it difficult to be a baseball player's son? Yeah. Right. Well, that is the funniest part of the movie when a possessed Wyatt Russell is like, yeah, my son should be sacrificed. Because really when you think about it, he's a total loser. Instead of a lifeguard,

do they got a death guard? See, these are great ideas, Eric. You should have been in the pitch room. I should have been. I mean, there was it kind of calls back the black phone also, because you're talking from other dimensions. Yes, that's true.

Yeah, because there's a pool dimension, folks. Really? There's a, dude, there's a whole pool dimension. It's kind of like a lady in the water a little bit. Oh, baby. Oh, man. And you have all of, like, that sounds dumb, right? Pool dimensions, so dumb.

Sure. But are there cocoon aliens in there, maybe in the pool dimension? You don't really see. There's like some ghosts or whatever, like previous victims of the pool. Oh, that's cool. But this is, it's shot and played like, talk to me or something like it takes itself so seriously you know and i know that's a fucking monkey's paw movie and whatever but like this it's a pool folks it's a pool it's a haunted pool let's have some

fun with it and just yeah exactly maybe a life raft comes to life and eats somebody and takes them in you know what i mean yeah some blood digital bloody i mean i hate digital blood but even that i will take just to give some juice to this fucker is anything and it doesn't have it and like let it be, I was realizing because I paid like the $20 rental for it. It's universal. You know that shit's going to be on Peacock sooner than later. I saw that universal

logo come up and I was like, oh yeah. Surprise it isn't already. I figure by now. I actually double checked on a just watch right, but the tradition for Peacock is to put the new Halloween movies directly there and yes.

But Ghost Pool dude tricked two month theatrical window. Yeah, exactly. So I wanted to just tell you dudes and everybody at home some stuff that I was checking out at Sundance this weekend. The

rentals of Sundance, I wasn't there. But just, you know, Sundance is always kind of a grab bag and especially with like the narratives you can sometimes come out with not so many good titles. But there were some things here that I enjoyed.

Trash Festival. We're saying it. we're not afraid of them all powerful sun dance laughing I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm sorry don't send Butch Cassidy after me So this

first one's a new one from the filmmaker Nathan Silver Hyper independent filmmaker Dude's called Between the Temples It's Jason Swartzman as a Cantor

a Jewish canter that works at a temple and he's having like a crisis of faith thing and he is asked by what's her face there from Taxi Oh, Carol Kane. Carol Kane, thank you. It was blanking our name. Carol Kane wants to have a mitzvah

at the age of 73. So it's like, it's kind of like Jewish Harold and Maude a little bit. Interesting. They start like spending time together. Sean Price-William shot it on gorgeous 16 in upstate New York, Eric. so like a lot of fucking lush forestry it's it's really

it's beautifully shot it's also fucking funny and like ass clenchingly so oh man if nobody know at Nathan Silver I really suggest you he's been putting out a couple of independent movies for a while now this I think is his biggest stars I don't I think most of the time he works with

non-professionals or like theater people but there's a great movie called Uncertain Term he made about a camp for teen mothers is really really good and then his first movie if you can find it it's called Soften the Head

Fantastic movie also about a Jewish crisis of faith All of them The one thing that keeps them all together All of them are going to make your ass fucking go up inside you Oh yeah They just hang on the most awkward

Fucking moments in your life Just like and just drag it out It's unbelievable but fantastic as well. Do you think Nathan Silver gets upset if you ask who's going to win the next election? Oh, big time. He does a real like, oh, I haven't heard that one before. And then like doesn't answer you.

Turns to someone else at the dinner party. Thank you so much. 538. My ass. The other thing that's cool is because it's shot on 16 by Price Williams and has Jason Swartzman in it, it has a real vibe of an Alex Ross Perry movie. So if you think of like

that dude's kind of wavelength. It's, it's sort of that. Not picked up yet by anybody. I guess that's, this dude's thing is, this is like his ninth feature and none of his movies see like big, big distribution. So maybe with some, you know, the carol-cane-ness of it all in the sports movie.

Star Power, yeah. Some Oscar buzz, possibly. Absolutely. Now, this is a movie, speaking of all of our kvetching about theatrical, this movie, Skywalker's A Love Story is what

called here, a new one from Jeff Zimbalist. This sold to Netflix out of the festival. And like, boy, if there's anything that you would want to see in a huge fucking screen, like IMAX, this is a movie about this Russian couple that are these like thrill-seeking

acrobatic climber people and they ascend to like the tops of spires on skyscrapers and like do videos and poses for photos and stuff like that. They're pursued by Darth Vader. Is that right? that's that's that's exactly right um no but it's just like it's all of this really crazy

go pro like high up in the sky kind of footage is it a doc or is it a narrative it's a dock um and so it's crazy like you're watching their footage as they're like ascending these things and so it's all centered around the biggest uh project that they work on some uh you know super skyscraper that was supposedly like the last planned super skyscraper for the next decade or something. And it has all this insane security and like, we're going to get in there. Everybody keeps getting arrested before they get to the top. We're going to get to the top. So it's like all centered around that. So it's also like, icedy kind of. It's very much plays like a thriller. They break some guards next before they start climbing. They are in jail now. It's true.

We're definitely like dodging people or whatever. But the thing is the, I think that the climb for this big one is in, I think it's in Thailand. And they do not. not fuck around with, like, trespassing laws and stuff. So the whole thing, too, is like, if they get caught doing this thing, which is what you're watching the movie for, they go to jail for like several months. Yeah. And you're in a fucking South Asian prison. I mean, hey, you get to make an easy sequel then.

You get to make this and then you get to make your version of Midnight Express. Yes. It's right there. You just get to switch right over there. Very easy. Yeah, but it is, it is so watchable. The footage is fucking crazy. And it reminds me, you know, reminds me of is the, um, the, um, the man

on wire, doc. Because it's a lot of similar, like, we're planning to do this super illegal thing and we're filming it all the time. So that was pretty cool. Real quick, just another one film from Northern Ireland. It is called

Kneecap. And this is about this Irish language rap group called Kneckap. The real dudes play themselves in this movie and Michael Fastbender plays one of the kids' fathers

and so it's like it's this whole thing about like the idea of keeping the Irish language alive like it was fucking outlawed at points in history you know so it's all about that and like most of the movie

is in Irish which was very fascinating like new to my ear and like Fastbenders you know going through he's fucking great in the movie it's good like it's like you definitely got Michael Fastbender So a company like Sony Pictures Classics would buy this, which they did. And sometimes those can be kind of thankless.

And it's like, oh, yeah, they just got whoever. But like, it's Michael Fassbender. He's fucking doing it up. He's like an ex, like, IRA dude that, you know, faked his own death for political reasons and whatever. But yeah, this dude, Rich Pepiette, this is like his first feature. I'm pretty sure he directed a bunch of music videos for these guys. But it's super fucking funny. It's like kitchen sink drama.

but it took ecstasy, you know, it's like, the music is crazy, it shot really interestingly, very, you know, kinetic kind of hyper sort of stuff. Yeah, big recommend on that one. And then finally, totally charming coming of age film

called Didi. That picture ain't selling it on me. No, I got to tell you, it's a bad frame because that is from like, it's a 2008 period piece, so feel free to feel like a skeleton

at any point. But this Sean Young, Sean Wong, the director here, feature debut. He was 13 in 2008, so this is like very personal story. And what you're, what that terrible frame is, is them

like, they set off a firecracker in a mailbox and he's filming it. Like a little video camera, and they're running away from it. So like, it does not exemplify what the movie actually is. It's not a found footage thing. It's an autobiographical documentary kind of a thing. Well, no, it's a, it's a full-on

narrative. Oh, okay. See, that's like, that's a little kid actor in that frame, but he's, he's using a camcorder, so it just, it looks like it's a documentary in that, in that moment, but it's, I thought the same thing when I saw the frame for it, but it's, no, it's a narrative. Joan Chen plays the mother. She's incredible. Wow. Is this like, just, it's Joan Chen getting this like meaty supporting role, really, really great. But yeah, it's just, you know, the kid is, uh, Taiwanese, American and he's living it up in Northern California, trying. to navigate, you know, being in high school and all that shit. Very coming of age, very sweet. You know, with like a little bit of an edge to it. It's not really a super polished existence. You know, not many teenage existences are. It's so watchable.

It hasn't sold to anybody yet, but I'm sure somebody's going to pick it up. Just a totally charming little bit of movie making there. And yet there was like a lot of not great stuff. I didn't want to harp on that, but that's just some stuff that I definitely think people should keep their eyes peeled for. Sure. Should something come out? now um very cool something i don't think uh anyone's going to want to keep their eyes peeled for and i would say avoid it eric we'll see how you feel in this week's secret movie

effort, Dolf Lundgren stars in Wanted Man. Also, you know what, Bryce just told me already. I'm already in. I'm already watching it right now. Watch it. It's also co-written by Dolf Lundgren. You do the score as well. I don't know, Chris, but one of the other writers wrote probably the worst Gary Bucie movie to exist. Ghost Rock, 2003's Ghost Rock. Whoa, dude. If you're saying the worst of a Gary Bucy

movie to exist, that's pretty low. He was in Ford Ginger. Dead Man movies. Ginger Dead Man is way better than Ghost Rock. Oh, wow. Okay. Is it a Western? What is the movie? It's a Western. Yeah, it's just filmed on one of those tourist attraction towns out west and it's like zero budget, zero anything, really poorly written. No real direction. Anyway, Gulf Lundgren's a better director than Ghost Rock's director. I forget the guy's name, but this movie is, uh, it's trash. It's also trying to make

you just, you know, remember everyone. Remember that the best The best cops are 70 years old Yeah It's insane Like the movie starts with him Like there's been an outcry Because he was filmed

Abusing a fucking Mexican person And like Sounds like a good reason for an outcry Yeah Well no but a tape saying Mexican low life And you know all this shit The original script was probably way worse Yeah it was like Dolf

You can't scratch that put something else in. But so like this, this happens. And it's not like, okay, you're fucking 70 whatever. Just retire. You're done. Yeah. It's like, here's this special mission to Mexico that you have to go on as punishment. I don't think so. And guess what? Things go tits up and he ends up laying in a bed for most of the movie. Okay. He, you know, well, here's the funny thing. Like, because I follow him on Instagram and a while back he had, uh, like, knee surgery or some shit. I think like he was making

this movie like physically in pain because he's like he's just limping all over this movie. I was watching it physically in pain. I just don't look like he was actually injured making this movie like he was walking around with a chronic injury. Well just yeah it did look like that and it just

it really worked against the narrative of hey let the old guy do the cop thing again because he's right at it. But when he's walking around like that you're just yeah it's like well you want him to sit like please have some soup or something sit down dude all of the criminals have twisted ankles was he able is that the only way he was able to because i i don't understand why like it is but i guess it's all like what computer crimes well he ends up escorting a prisoner and this uh woman becomes like he's just like he learns

to understand that not every mexican is evil throughout the course of the film that's really what it's about but like the ending he kind of doesn't though like he's just the same dude and like of course he's gonna like get with this woman that he's like protecting throughout the movie right and the last scene is them like at the courthouse

or some shit and he's like oh hey what's up hot Mexican lady and I'm like you've learned nothing from this experience dude like it's so fucking terrible and it has twists maybe just one that you could see coming 10 miles away.

Because why else is Kelsey Grammer in your movie? But his character meets an end that's very funny. Yeah. It almost makes the other grueling 94 minutes worth it. The thing is like if Kelsey Grammer or Dolph Lundgren had some swagger in these roles, it's crazy to even say that. But there could be something that's watchable here, but it really doesn't feel like anyone cares.

Yeah. No, nobody gave a shit. And I don't know if you'd to believe this on the trivia. or what. It says that Dolph was trying to get this movie made since 2006. Was it really like a 15 year plus passion project? What were the blockades?

What were the things that were stopping you from doing this? Common sense, reason. Money. I can't get $234,000 together. It's so close. We're at 231. We were at 231 for four years. I will say though, speaking of budgetary stuff,

not all the way through, but there are some real squibs here and there. There are some creative uses of gunplay. One moment I liked, maybe the only part I liked was when he shoots a fence and you see the fence is rigged to blow up and then the actor behind it has blood on his back and falls over. I'm like, that's a cheap,

good way to get that effect. Yes, exactly. So you're kind of thinking of some things here and there. But overall, wanted man, I did not want it, man. Perfect review. that's my fucking DVD cover review but that is going to do it for this week folks big week as always with the releases

but just if you are playing catch up last Thursday we dropped this month's Melro 210 big episode two hours and 20 minutes a big one but you know Joe was on trial for murder and Steve Sanders was having to protect a nerd we talked about Jenny Garth posting a certain animals genitalia

on Instagram that's where the extra 20 minutes went It was a much a big one. It was a little bit before we got talking about the TV shows, if you know what I mean. Genitalia talk on that Melro 2 and O. Every time. And then Friday, we jogged into the weekend

with the Nexus. Fucking Charles Nabeer playing some of the worst music you'll ever hear in your life. Genitalia talk on the next month. As well, yes. Oh, it's kind of always. Yeah, just swinging everywhere. No, I think we were bringing up the horsecock

from the Melro episode. I'm sure you were. I was trying to dance around it and not be so crude on YouTube. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Dainty YouTube. The horse's magnificent genitalia. Speaking of magnificent genitalia, tomorrow Saw X is out. We are wrapping up some of the biggest brain scratchers from last year and got a big old episode about that. And if you're on our Patreon at the $8 level and up, you can watch or listen rather to the Saw X episode ad.

on that Patreon. And then Friday, release-wise, we love movies all about Dune 84. Yeah, yeah. This was an exciting, fun-ass conversation.

A lot of Dune nerdery. Oh, yeah. Patrick Stewart nerdery. We had a ball talking about Dune, 1984, and I'm excited for that to drop. But don't forget Thursday, we're doing a digital worldwide experience

on The Flash. 2,00023s, the Flash. Yes. Yes. On 9 p.m. Eastern, moment.c.o slash we hate movies. We'll be talking about all your favorite flashes and cameos and other things that shouldn't be in feature films. No, all that. We'll be catching all the babies. Oh, God. Getting all the microwaves. Don't worry about it. There has to be a living descendant of George Reeves. And I just want to know how that person feels about the movie, The Flash. If it's anything like the Christopher Reeves kids, not great.

The answer is, oh, they had, they had vocal beef, good for them. They did. Yeah, there's a new doc, which I do want to see on. That was at Sundance, yeah. They were talking about that. They were like, yeah, nobody called us for anything. And that looked terrible. Sure did.

Wow. Honestly, I hope Nicholas Cage and Kevin Smith's children speak out about this. You know what? I don't have the best history with Kevin Smith, but hey, are you telling me Kevin Smith is in that movie? No, it's script related. Oh, right.

Yes, yes. I know what you're referencing now, yes. Yeah, but that was also quite terrible. But yes, Thursday night, y'all, catch us live 9 p.m. Eastern Moment. dot co. slash we hate movies.

I am dreading rewatching that movie for a second and final time. But this is our biz, folks, and we're happy to do it for you. This Thursday, 9 p.m. Eastern Moment.com. slash we hay movies. That's going to wrap it up for this week's on screen.

live until next Monday when we definitely will tell you all what we're playing on those live dates we're talking about movie wise uh definitely doing that next Monday that's right thank you Steve uh until then I've been Andrew Jupin Steven Siddak. Eric Siskin Chris Kavan. Have a good week y'all. Bye-bye. Thank you.