We Hate Movies - S15 Ep758: Weird Science
Episode Date: September 17, 2024“I’m scanning pornography into the computer to make a lady!” - Eric as George W. Bush On this week’s show, we’re chatting about the 1985 John Hughes-directed, sci-fi sex comedy, Weird Scie...nce! How strange is it that back in the day, these creep-tacular incels were just considered harmless, lovable nerds? Why would they cut out all the solid Bride of Frankenstein conversation from the theatrical cut? Has there been a better titular song in cinema? Is this weird science, or weird computer magic? How cool is all the reversed footage at the end? And are those grandparents dead or what? PLUS: Christopher Nolan - huge Weird Science fan? Weird Science stars Anthony Michael Hall, Kelly LeBrock, Ilan Mitchell-Smith, Suzanne Snyder, Judie Aronson, Robert Downey Jr., Robert Rusler, Vernon Wells, Britt Leach, Michael Berryman, and the late, great Bill Paxton as Chet; directed by John Hughes. The episode is brought to you in part by Factor! Head to FACTOR MEALS dot com slash whm50 and use code whm50 to get 50% off your first box plus 20% off your next month. That’s code whm50 at FACTOR MEALS dot com slash whm50 to get 50% off your first box plus 20% off your next month while your subscription is active! Be sure to check our website for all ticketing information on our final shows of the year in Seattle, Portland (Oregon) & Boston! And don’t miss our worldwide digital event on October 23 where we’re talking Scream 4! Can’t make it the night of? The show has a 14-day replay window after the broadcast! And for our Patreon subscribers at the $8 & up, the After Party Q&A bundle comes free with purchase of a ticket to the show! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Bus Movie, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.
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This week on We Hate Movies,
ah, back when dangerous incels were just seen as lovable, harmless nerds.
It's weird science.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
I'm Stephen Siddak.
Eric Siska.
And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies.
Thank you for tuning in this fine day.
If you're a catch us for the first time because you're a big Anthony Michael Hallhead,
this is a comedy show where you take a movie Good, Bad or Otherwise, and kick it around for a little bit.
And yes, this week, 1985's Weird Science, directed by John Hughes.
And I think, I said this on Letterbox.
Pending a rewatch of Curly Sue, this is the worst movie he directed.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
It's a tough one.
I don't know what anybody can start here, what your experience is with this movie.
It was always on, like, Channel 11 and shit, and I watched it once or twice, and I could never get into it.
A breakfast club, I could, all day long, I can watch that movie, even though it's like, you know, cheesy in 80s and blah, blah, blah.
But, like, I was ever, my wife loves Pretty and Pink, so I've seen that a bunch, but that sort of,
of after that.
That he only wrote, right?
I don't think he'd do that.
Right.
So breakfast served all day
at the SADCAS.
Absolutely.
Love the breakfast club.
I have seen this movie
quite a bit.
I also unfortunately watched
a good chunk of the USA
network original programming
show that they made out of this.
But yeah, I don't know.
I definitely understood
going into my letterboxed ranking
that there is nostalgia afoot here.
for sure mainly because like other guy like dude who plays wyatt man that guy's just a real
fucking black hole of everything in this movie and the only person you really have to act up
against his fucking kelly lebrock and anthony michael hall come on man listen they're all they're all
nice and it's okay to like a movie there's weird science heads out there i'm sure there are yeah
i just rated three stars on letterbox let's all relax i gave it less than that but it is you know
it is nostalgia. I watched this
probably a good
handful of times. It's probably on HBO
Showtime or something like that in the 90s
and
it's got a banging soundtrack. I think
that's what can be going back.
The song is so good. It's so good. It's the best
movie title song.
I'll say it's better than Ghostbusters.
Oh yeah. Because Weird
Science is a
song. Ghostbusters
is a novelty song. And
And novelty songs can be fun, and they have their place, but it's kind of weird, like, you know, I like Ongo Bogo quite a bit, but like having, just having seen Nightmarem for Christmas enough, and it's the same singing voice, right?
So now whenever I hear Ongo Boingo, I see Jack Skeleton just kind of like singing the, singing those songs.
That's like a living human skeleton, maybe.
So you should listen to the song, Little Girls by Oingo Boingo that did not age well at all and just pick up.
Jack Skellington singing it.
Yeah, no, just nothing about that Oingo Boingo song works anymore,
but this song totally does.
And the only thing, I mean, I do, what was that too?
I forget who sings it, but it's like right at the start of the movie
when they're just like, citizen cane, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-no.
No, no, no.
Did you guys ever watch the TV show, though?
No, never.
It's my creation, irreversible.
Oh, my God, I guess that's a traumatic event.
you can't turn back the time on, yeah.
Is it real, irreversible?
Oh, see, so now...
See, I was just singing a song where someone said Citizen Kane,
but you're now doing a weird-al-esque oingo-boingo parody song
to the film Irreversible.
Absolutely.
That's where I'm going.
Okay, okay.
Coming in hot.
A little bit of an A to D there,
so I just want to make everybody at home understand what was happening.
It's a harsh one.
You should have softened the blow with it.
like a nymphomaniac or something.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Getting hit with pennies.
We should say Chris Cabin.
It was trying to make himself a real girl and just absolutely killed himself.
Yeah.
Yep, yeah, no, because what happened was that door started bulging and then the door exploded.
But instead of a sexy lady coming out, he just killed himself in a house explosion.
Do you think that happened in the 80s at some point?
Like, people trying to recreate the crimes of this film and being.
Like, I want to create a lady through the computer.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
And that's how we have, like, those AI sex bot things now.
And some dude who was, like, doing all the computer coding and had this movie on a loop in the background, like, finally, my weird science dreams are coming true.
But the weird thing, I mean, like, obviously, you know, this movie, it's just sort of like trips over its own foot in.
Because the concept is so creepy, right?
is like, if you can't have these kids
fucking this girl, or it's really weird and gross
and probably French, you know what I mean?
Like the French version of weird science,
they're probably fucking ass to mouth.
But in the American version of weird science,
you can't really do that.
So like it just sort of now it's tripping over itself
to not have that happen.
And like the whole movie is sort of sheepish in that way.
I mean, realistically, what you're saying
is these two kids would be double penetrating this girl.
They chain her up in the,
basement is what in cells do we know that now here this is just the rose colored glasses of
you know boys having fun and then they never actually engage in sexual congress with this
creation it's kind of funny because i i read a quote it's on like i mdb and i'm sure it's because
all these people do now is just fucking copy paste shit they hear in like special features and
youtube videos so i'm sure some way along the along the way this actually happened where kelly
LeBrock said that this movie
Lisa is basically Mary Poppins
with a rack and
yes that's exactly what it is
and I feel like
the movie it just it kind of biffs
the start of it where it's because
when you're watching it you're like yes
they are making this
woman to have sex with a computer creation
that's what it is but what it should be is like
boy we wish we had someone to show us
the ropes or give us advice about the ladies
or whatever and that part is
it entirely there and instead you're like
yeah they want to fuck all those
gigabytes and whatnot
now I'm just thinking about
fucking Mary Poppins and all those kids
being like may we fuck her
mother
that's a spoonful of sugar I would take right
does that happen to the sequel
as Little Man Mel Randha showed his
cock and fucking her is that how that work? I wish
then I would have fucking paid attention more in that
movie just one of the absolute
who asked for this
piece of donkey shit movies I've seen
I they remade that I totally forgot
or it was a reboot
quill kind of a thing right it's no
it's I'm pretty sure it's a straight up
sequel okay a sequel
wow and she is indeed supposed
to be like the Julie Andrews Mary Poppins
yeah it's Emily Blunt is Mary Poppins right
yes yes the dad is
Ben Wishaw
I'm waiting for this ain't Mary Poppins
XXXXX
listen dude who's to say that hasn't happened
I'm sure he has I could Google it
right now.
Yep.
Poppin Poppins, dude, there it is.
Mr. Poppers, Penguin.
To get back to weird
science, and I think this is sort of
the issue, and I think it's because
they do,
Wyatt and Gary,
played by Anthony McHall
and the other guy.
Oh, let somebody get an IMDP.
All right, I'll get it open.
Hold on, I'll get it.
It's, no, it is.
It is funny, by the way, because it's
in the credits, it's Anthony Michael Hall,
Kelly LeBrock,
than this dude. The guy's built third
in his own movie. Ilan Mitchell Smith.
Who is
now a professor, I understand
of English and like medieval stuff.
He's got a PhD now. It's pretty cool.
Good for him. He's doing better than us.
And he's looking great. He's looking better than
our old Anthony Michael.
You know what's weird though? I saw
on like his Wikipedia or whatever
like he doesn't like getting
his picture taken because he doesn't want his students
to know that he was in weird science.
Too late. I don't know.
The fucking internet exists.
You're getting Googled.
Like, come on.
The question is, do those balls drop between now and now and then?
I certainly hope so.
Because he is, he is Anthony Michael.
I'm sorry, he is Matthew Broderick at 2x speed.
Like if you're listening to the, if Matthew Broderick is a podcast,
you're like, I just want to get to the end of it.
You just put it on 2x speed.
That is this kid.
You know what?
Funny enough, Steve, that's exactly my mentality if I was listening to a Matthew
Broderick podcast.
Let's get to the end of it.
All right, so what I was getting at was...
Yes, the ball's dropping.
They, no, they read as creepy.
They don't, and they don't read as, like, lovable, misfit nerd.
Because nerds, it's a really thin line of, like, what works.
And you can go really creepy, really quickly, or you go lovable.
Like, the, what do you call it there?
The lone gunman.
Lovable nerds, right?
Lovable nerd.
Well, I mean, yes.
with a butt, and that butt is,
Frohiki really wants to fuck Scully.
Sure.
And that's there.
But to compare, Steve, now, we had Revenge of the Nerds
was happening, I guess, around this time,
co-currently, maybe even before.
Are they both 85, maybe?
I don't know.
Because this is the same year's real genius,
by the way, speaking of protagonists
whose balls haven't dropped yet.
Oh, that's so true.
84.
And that kid is lovable, though.
That kid is, even though,
turned out to be a sexual predator.
Thank you.
I mean, that's the thing is, like,
What's funny is all these other, like Revenge of the Nerd series is very grabby.
Yes.
This is restrained in contrast to it.
And real quick, I want to ask you about these balls dropping again.
You get your voice real low to the mic like Howard Sterling.
We're just asking about these balls.
Robin, can we zoom in on him really quickly?
Is it because of his voice is what you're referencing, not the scene where he's wearing the panties,
which I think he looks good at.
Not too bad.
That package is.
front and center of that frame
it lingers there for a little bit
on his package. Well, because the first shot
is the ass, I'm like, oh, is that a kind of
of Kelly LeBrock's ass, that's good? Oh, no, it's a, oh, no, it's a
boy, hey, you know, it's like, hey, sure. I guess that's the joke
is that, like, you'd be like, ooh, baby. And then it's like, oh, wait, that's the
guy. You know, so many dudes in the theater were like,
ha ha, ha. Just a really quick,
like, I gotta go get some more soda.
I think he looked great.
But, yeah, I know, it's the voice.
It's the, hi, hello, everybody.
Oh, hey, I'll.
Sure.
Yeah, that's really, it's, that's like fucking quint with his nails on the chalkboard and jaws.
Every time this kid talks.
Yeah, I mean, Anthony Michael Hall is, you know, an accomplished kind of little comedic actor at this point.
You know what I mean?
I think he's very funny.
He always had the good, not like a physical comedian, but very good with facial expressions.
A lot of his facial expressions of this movie, I think, are very funny.
Is this a mushroom cut kind of sort of?
It's like, it's the proto mushroom cut.
Yes, it is.
It's like an overgrown mushroom cut kind of.
Yes, it's not as boldly as we got in the 90s where it's like your hair only came down to a certain length.
And then they fucking shaved it like right down to the bone.
That's what I was rocking for a little while.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, the dreaded Lloyd Christmas.
Pretty much, man.
We start with, it's a fake 2001 score opening thing.
We didn't pay for it.
It definitely, it's like, it gets like three notes in a row so that your ear starts to prick up.
And then as soon as your ear pricks up, it's like not getting sued.
And it goes to like a different note instead.
And I mean like these kids, here's the thing.
These, if it was just like them and they're playing Dungeons of Dragons and they're like, oh,
man, I really like Lisa. She's really
sexy. And looking over
at the lunch table, sure.
These kids are
just like standing and staring,
mouth and game and girls doing
gymnastics. And I'm like, these are not
my kind of nerds. You know what I mean?
Ask the parents of 85.
I guarantee you they'd rather have their kids
leering at girls versus
playing Dungeons and Dragons, which at
the time in Reagan's America, they
thought that's how Satan came through the carpet.
That's actually very true. Well, those
are down in the finished basement playing
the Dungeons and Dragons and Satan's
going to tear up Mother's New Carpet. We have
to do that, what was that, Tom
Hank's Mases and Monsters movie? Yes. Yeah, that's a must.
Now, I know that that's like D&D
and he gets, it's like Jumanji with
D&D kind of, right? It's like he's
playing and he goes inside the game. I think like
the devil hangs out of them or something. Yes, there's
like some... Oh, really? It's like
satanic panic, yeah. Light Satanism
is a remember correctly. Oh, I
like that. Yeah. It's been forever since
I saw it, but I remember it being a hoot.
But it's
But I mean, if they were just like regular nerd
But like it's like it's their
They're horny.
Oh, what?
Oh, Gary, man.
Look at those.
Look at these girls doing gymnastics.
Gary.
Is your cock hard?
My cocks hard, Gary.
And there are ways to show like that there are like horny teens in a movie.
I mean, look at like like super bad.
You know what I mean?
Like there's there's way more.
natural ways to do this. Like, I wasn't a
fucking suave dude with the
ladies when I was in high school, but like, I was
never just standing, leering
at a gym class. And also, it
appears to be like an all-girls gym class.
They're the only two dudes there. Like,
it's just fucking creep town.
But this is what I said, though. In the 80s,
dude, these were charming nerds.
They were charming. Yeah. I guess they were just walking
by and went to
go leer at them at the
girls gym class or whatever this is.
And then we get the pantsing.
by Robert Darnie Jr. and
what's his name? The dude
who's the, he's the bully
teen in Nightmarine
Nightmare and Elm Street 2, Freddy's Revan.
Robert Russell. Rusler.
Rusler? Rusler? He's Max.
They're Ian and Max. Yes.
Man, and a classic pantsing.
Anybody ever get pantsed in school?
No. You know, that's the thing is I would
the all-boys school, the bullying
gets thrown way down.
Interesting.
Because, like, no one's trying to fucking get late.
You know what I mean?
It's a little prison-esque where, like, you know what I mean?
Like, instead of gym class, they tell you you're going out into the yard for exercise minutes.
Exactly.
And, you know, like, fighting will happen a bit more likely, probably.
But it's, again, it's all of that, that shit is just turned down because there's no sexual rivalry going.
Well, also because of the threat of being thrown into solitary, right?
Yeah, you don't want to go into the hole.
I got pantsed a couple of times
But it was always under
Locker Room shenanigans
It was never in front of girls
It was just dudes fucking around playing grab ass
I should say I was at Catholic school
So the only people that were leering during gym class
With the priests
Yes
And I'm surprised they didn't pants you
Oh Stephen, it's time for another scoliosis test
Didn't we just have one last week?
Yes but you never know
when the Lord may strike you
with scoliosis.
So what are you little maniac?
Oh, my God, what if they
accidentally made a priest
instead of Kellel of Rockerson?
So what do you little maniacs
want to do now?
Would you like to confess?
It's like, let's conjure up,
you know, let's make a creature
on this computer that wants to fuck
15-year-old boys.
And in comes a Catholic priest.
The whole nine yards
with the regalia, the whole
the whole dress,
incense or whatever. Yes, yes. I love
Father O'Malley. But more like an older
brother. It's a different kind of love.
Not like I love you, babe, who was on
two different episodes of Seinfeld. Well, you'll have to give me a name
and it better be in the old book.
Nathaniel's pretty good.
Now, I should say, I watched a little bit
of an extended cut because I do have the Aero 4K of this.
look at you it's only like a minute and a half two minutes longer it's a couple of added scenes
and i think all they did was they took like what were ostensibly deleted scenes that they like
put in for the tv broadcast because they have to take out other stuff so this like makes up
the minutes or whatever but so i have it started after the gym class thing they get pants and
whatever we go to wyatt's bedroom where they are watching Frankenstein and it's like it gets
almost a little Kevin Williamson-esque because
we're talking about like
movies that actually scare us and
you know why it's like oh I saw
I spit on your grave that's scary
and Anthony Michael Hall says he saw another
movie that scared the shit out of him or whatever
I read you you said the
comparison thing and I read that scene and I was
like that scene should be in the movie
because it's actually giving these kids
some character more
because that's again like they're non-specific
nerds are they moving nerds are they movie nerds are they
comic nerds are they
dragons nerds like all these things are different kinds of are they baseball nerds you know what I mean like all these are nerds that
you worry you mean jocks no no no there are baseball nerds I know those guys that bring out the little numbers and stuff yeah stack guys absolutely it's a whole sick twisted form of nerdery exactly the sports nerds totally exist like just if that specificity is missing and I don't know why this movie is 94 minutes it it couldn't be 95 minutes especially because
of the so there's two Frankenstein scenes before the actual one that is just in the theatrical cut because like they watch it or whatever oh and the other thing is Gary says that he was scared by dawn of the dead yeah that's the other one and then like they're talking about Frankenstein or whatever and this is where you they go into the kitchen and they start talking about like bride of Frankenstein for a little bit and then he's like we should make our own girl how much of the bride of Frankenstein chatter is in the theatrical it's none none it's just basically like
I think we're back in the bedroom
and Gary is looking at the computer
he's like we should make her own girl dude
it'll be like Frankenstein but cuter
like that's kind of wow so yeah
digging up a dead girl this that
and the other thing it gets into
yeah no they have an extensive
We're not doing necrophilia again Gary
I'm fucking sick of it
we're on dirty your cock got last time
I'm not getting another maggot up my urethra for you
Necromancer that was the movie that scared the shit
that guy falls in love with a dead body weird stuff yeah so you i think you had a better experience
with that scene of the bride frankenstein explaining all that stuff it kind of contextualizes them to
steve's point they're a little more movie nerds talking about the release dates of like 34 and stuff
that's yes yeah and that's what feels very kevin williamson because he's like he's like oh you know
they made a sequel to this and they made a girl i think it comes out in like 35 and anthony mcgall's like
34 and it's like okay that's great because if you have two 15 year old kids that are arguing over
the release dates of a mid 30s universal horror movie those are clearly and comfortably movie nerds
and we can go on from there exactly what head honcho is like 94 minutes and not a minute more
like it's totally this is the complete scene it makes sense it's so bizarre to cut that out but we still
get like, you know, the setup here
of Wyatt's parents are in Cincinnati
visiting, I guess,
his sister's fiance. Right, he's
trying to be a vet or something.
And Chet is coming home for the weekend
to watch over some
stuff. And Gary,
Anthony Michael Hall's character, doesn't want to
stay if, you know, if that's the
case, but he does anyway. He makes a
trashed scene in that, in that sink
pretending to be a big man
shaving. All right, here's, all right,
I don't understand this. So like, I
definitely slept over a lot of friends' houses growing up, you know, eventually sleepovers
turned into I just crashed on the couch drunk, but it still all happened. Never once was
like, oh, you know what I should do? Just kind of shave? Yeah. Just have a quick shave.
Because I wasn't shaving anyway. Second question, did anyone have this second bedroom situation,
the second bed because for a friend to stay over? Or were you ever on the other end of that? Like,
a buddy of yours had a second bed for you? I sort of did not. I slept on. I slept on
floor is always
always a sleeping bag
kind of a lot of sleeping bed on the floor now
there were for a long time
growing up there were two
twin beds in my room it was just because I shared a bedroom
with my brother growing up
but that was we definitely had like the
Huey Dewey Louie like bunk bed situation
do you ever have a high riser
you ever know what that is what the fuck is
it's a bed
that basically
there's another it's basically a bed
there's another bed under it and it's
metal contraption that you roll the bed out and then elevate the other bed so now you've got
two twin beds next to each other but it rolls under during the day to save some space right
next to each other so it's like like we're getting down to fucking mother basically yeah i think uh those
are also in the furniture biz called trundle beds okay is that right yeah uh no we never had one of
those i welcome back to trundle cast yeah we had a bunk bed we had a but we should say
the Donnellys have like
fucking crazy McAllister money
The bar in this kid's house
Is better than most bars that I've been to in New York City
It's awesome
It's so spacious
Dude if I lived in this house
And I had that bar
I would never do anything
No exactly
I would stay at home
I'd make my drinks I'd invite my friends over to make them drinks
We'd be watching movies
This is the
I think it might
be one of the best rooms, best interiors in any John Hughes film.
This entire house is incredible.
Like his bedroom has its own private onsuit.
God, what is he the fucking Walsh kids?
Come on.
Well, no, but Brenda ain't coming in from the other side.
It's all, it's only his.
Yeah, he's not sharing a bathroom with Chet.
I'm sure Chet has his own bathroom.
Uh, it, yeah, no, these kids are, this kid is loaded.
Totally loaded.
And it's actually sort of interesting.
you completely get like why
Anthony Michael Hall's character
is always over there because we do
see Gary's house later in the movie
not as nice Gary.
But I do love the old style
lamp that they have in the house.
Oh, isn't that a thing of beauty?
Tells you everything you to know about that dad.
It's like, gotcha.
Yep, absolutely.
But yeah, so it's Gary's idea
by watching.
And in the movie, you know,
in the theatrical I should say that you are cutting into
to Frankenstein.
So you kind of have that context,
but they're not talking about it at all.
And then he's just like, we should make a girl.
It should be Frankenstein, but cuteer.
Boom, boom, boom.
Should we give her a brain?
I mean, eight minutes in,
you're already doing this computer thing
and you're adjusting the size of the tiats.
Oh, dude.
Should we give her a brain a question,
Jeffrey Dahmer asked.
You know what I mean?
I'm surprised they didn't leave it with this
because like when they're doing the computer stuff,
It's like, give her a brain.
Okay, right now the intelligence is fifth grade, slow learner, boring dip shit, it says on screen.
Yeah.
That sounds ideal if you want a docile subject to chain in the basement.
Which is what this sounds like.
It does.
The initial idea, though, is not to, like, actually physically make a girl.
Yes.
They want to basically make, like, an AI bot because they say, like, oh, and we could ask her questions.
Like, it's kind of there.
The thing that I was complaining about that they don't really set up where.
it's kind of, that's the one line.
Like, and maybe we could ask her questions.
And then like, then it goes out the window, like, with the magic and, and whatever.
Yes.
They do it at first.
It's like, okay.
And Gary's like, lame.
Let's do some vague hacking.
Yeah, I love this.
This is some wild hacking.
This is like.
We believed everything was Tron back in the day.
Yes.
All the way until like hackers in the 90s, which, I mean, I kind of love this stuff because
it's like kitsy and fun now looking back.
Yeah.
It's cute. It's literally like freakazoid.
Like you control alt something and then you go to a different reality practically.
They do the E equals MC squared twilight zone thing in here for a government hack?
Why would that exist?
And when they're attacking this, it's like a government computer they're doing.
It looks like NORAD or something.
And I think someone's physically, the guy at NORAD is physically typing access denied to them.
That's what they make it look like, which is pretty great.
I love this dude playing the government computer guy.
It looks exactly like John Ritter.
I thought it was for a second.
The government agency they should be hacking into
for what happens later in the movie
is the ministry of magic.
Okay, because none of this makes any...
It's not science.
It's not weird science.
It is weird magic.
It should be a seance.
Exactly.
Like, they do a little bit of that.
She has, I mean, she's basically Thanos
with all the fucking infinity stones.
You know what I mean?
Like she just walks around.
She controls reality time, space.
That's if they made the,
If they remade this movie, that's what it would be.
It'd be a bunch of nerds trying to make Lady Thanos to fuck.
No, just get Thanos that big fucking ass.
Oh, dude, that little dump truck ass is beautiful.
It would be like when...
It would be like when Wyatt comes out after sleeping that first morning.
We all thought his ass was Kelly LeBroggs.
So what are you little maniacs want to do next?
No, my ass is purple for a different reason.
I'm fucking hammered.
a real flogging last night from
Lisa.
Oh,
like you need something in
because like you're right,
the magic part of this is so stupid.
And like,
I don't know,
I feel like a way that you could
sort of straighten that course a little bit
is if whatever they hack into
in the government,
you just slap on a sticker
that's like yada yada virtual reality,
something or other.
You know what I mean?
And then it's like,
experimental,
Quadrophysics or something like that.
It's nonsense words.
And if this movie was allowed to be
100 minutes, you could have
government characters, like, someone
broke into this thing, and now we've got to go to
Shermer, Illinois, to figure out what they did with it.
And, like, that could play into it
in some way. Right. You could expand
the whole universe. Like, they broke into our
ladymaking machine, and then it's like
the government's been making, like,
you know, sex pot spies.
Mr. President, someone has hacked the ladymaker.
Oh, my God.
Was George in there again?
Was George sticking his tallywacker inside the computer again?
Yes, George W. Bush is starring this.
I told that hot shot not to stoop the computer.
I want her to live, breathe, and aerobus eyes.
Hey, Poppy, the door is like a balloon now.
I'm scanning pornography into the computer to make.
good lady. I love, so there's
so much happens here. We're scanning
pornography. Yep. Who has
the idea. If you and me
were like, oh man, I'd be like, oh, cool, Jillian
Anderson and you know, you'd be like, oh, cool,
Jenny McCarthy, whatever.
And who's like, David Lee Roth?
Like, where? And what?
I think that's to get to come out like,
skittly, pop. I think it's
so she has
a rock and roll. Diamond Dave's fucking dance moves
or so. Oh, nice. Yeah. And then
Houdini so she can't take a punch.
That way we can keep her captive.
And then also Einstein.
And it's like I would love a malfunction where she's got like an Einstein face instead of brain.
Or, okay, because that would be horrifying.
But let's see how far we could dial it back to the point where you'd make it work.
So let's say she comes out of it.
Face like Kelly LeBrock.
Uh-huh.
Hair like Albert Einstein.
I'm into it.
Mustache or no?
mustache included
I'd make it work
I'd make it work absolutely
what your little maniacs
want to get up to now
huh
oh god
or maybe you know
it's because RDJ's in this movie
it's like maybe Gary and Wyatt
were talking about something more important
than you serve
thank you for bringing this up
I was wondering did you think RDJ
thought of this movie on the set of
Oppenheimer
all the time
because it's the missile
shows up and he's in a scene with a giant
nuclear missile. I think it's because in both
Oppenheimer and in this, he has that
scene where he yells out, I'm shooting
my pants!
I mean, that's the thing. I mean, look, I know
you know Nolan in his earlier
movies, like he's got, you know,
inception, he's got Tom Berringer.
You know, he has an 80s movie guy
thing. Rutger Hauer, of course.
Thank you, Rutger Hauer.
I'm like so like maybe he's a big weird science head
Maybe that's Nolan love maybe when the lights are off
And everyone's like what's Christopher Nolan watching?
It must be some sort of like you know like you know he's watching weird science
Finally it makes sense thank you
I'd love it if it just turned out that dude just has the absolute worst fucking taste of movies
It would make him so much more charming than he already is
I'd be like that's awesome like you your professional life is one thing
but then you just go home and watch dog shit
he's from Chicago that you know
this is sort of starting right probably well acquainted
with Shermer Illinois and that
maybe he's accidentally making good movies
you know oh the studio
made me cut out the bra bomb
oh yes there was that whole part in Dunkirk
where they were going to be scanning
pornography pages
the studio made me cut it out
think about the
think about what the beach should look like
Bikini babes
Early on, yes
Obviously
Robert Oppenheimer did
poison his teacher with the apple
But he also was doing panty raids
Across the hall
It's about a good 20 minutes
That we dedicated to that
Yes, quite quite good
We had the initial meeting of
Robert and Kiti Oppenheimer
She was taking a shower, you see
And he was behind her in the shower
With his pants and Chuck Taylor's sneakers on
Like my favorite movie, weird science.
I could, I couldn't believe they left the sexy.
That's a first.
Oh, yeah, like, so we scan the porno mags, Diamond Dave, Albert Einstein.
We've got the bras on our heads for fun.
Ceremonial purposes.
And very importantly, I guess, is they have like conductors up to a Barbie doll as well.
Right.
Now, question real quickly about the bras.
Yes.
It's got to be the mothers.
It's got to be the mom.
Right.
What's the sister, right?
Well, this is gone.
Or leftovers?
They could be.
Oh, yeah, I stole these from Janice's dresser before she went away to college, you see, and she never asked for them back.
Yeah.
Hey, Gary, I got the bras from my sister, ready to jerk off.
Okay, well, either way.
Toss off.
In this movie, it's tossing off.
Which I kind of like.
I might say using it.
I think we got to start taking that for America.
to tossing off. Yeah, I think that's
exactly what Chris Nolan. Oh, I toss
off. When Emma's out of town,
I toss off. I put on weird science
and I toss off.
Erection equals male come times
two.
I've cracked it.
Oh, I don't remember
when I was going to ask about that.
Who emma's doing location scouting, time
to toss off.
No, no, you go ahead. I trust
you to find the locations.
Once you've found them, I'll fly to you so I can stay home and toss off.
He was trying to do Barbenheimer before anyone.
Exactly.
Hoking up, he's tossing off, he's hooking up a Barbie doll to all these electrodes,
which we do see in this movie.
And somehow that's the key to making a woman question mark.
Sure.
A woman, gin.
She's closer to a gin than she is a woman.
I mean, literally, this is wishmaster shit that she has.
That's where they should have found like an ancient bird.
book in the library that shouldn't be there
or something. And it's like, oh, we wish for
a sexy woman, but she's kind of a genie
and that's the movie. You know what I mean? Right.
That would be something as well.
I'd like that. But yeah, like the door,
you know, all this stuff happens.
And I, you know, some of the wackiness
I'm into, like, when
they, you know, go too
far and like the dog
is walking on the ceiling for a hot,
like those like cutaways are totally
fine. But when those get folded into
the reality in the movie and we need to talk about
then I'm not so okay with it.
But like the quick cutaway
of the dog on the ceiling,
I'm having a blast.
You know what I mean?
I do like all the appliances coming to life.
Like it's that movie Pulse.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like that shit's kind of cool.
The door turning into a balloon again.
I always love that dumb effect,
even though it's just the easiest thing of the world to do.
But is it science?
I mean,
it's just so magic.
Everything in this is magic.
Everything goes back to normal through magic.
Science never cures anything.
Science explodes things.
The meeting of science.
and magic, you guys,
we should have just called this movie
Strange Alchemy.
Yes.
And there you go.
Also, we should say it's called weird science
because it's based on an EC Comics line
and this story of what these guys are doing
is kind of based off a weird science story
that was in a comic issue.
And I was kind of thinking like,
it would be rad.
Like, if this wasn't John Hughes
because John Hughes just made shit
and it was just forever a John Hughes kind of thing,
but you could have taken this.
I don't know if it's like weird science.
Now we're doing another story from EC comics
and do sort of like an anthology kind of series out of it.
That would be a sexy anthology.
Sexy anthology, yes.
And also you have two characters.
It would be cool to pit them against each other.
If this turned into a dark comedy, you know what I mean?
Maybe Gary is like, we're going to make a girl and like fuck her.
And he's like, but no, Gary, we can't do that.
That's immoral.
You know what I mean?
Like then.
Or they're competing.
Like one night it's, I'm a moment.
Like one night it's, I'm on a date with Gary.
The next day I'm going to date with Wyatt.
Who's better at this?
Yes.
These are things that could happen in the movie.
That doesn't happen because the movie is,
it just turns into crazy town.
Like, literally, everything just starts to happen without really consequence.
Reason, consequence, none of that stuff.
But Steve, would you believe this?
I read this on the Tribune trivia.
Uh-oh.
John Hughes wrote this in two days and it shows.
Yeah, no kidding.
also apparently he this is the same year as breakfast clubs comes out and apparently like there's
maybe a thing where he needed to do both to make the breakfast club or like they didn't want to do the breakfast
club they want to do weird science that's why i think it was a do this to do that i want to make the
breakfast club and universal was like no we want you to make this movie weird science and he was like
all right if you let me make the breakfast club i will direct weird science yes is how that went
And then, like, when the deal was done, he was like, all right, now let me go to my car
and get the script that I definitely wrote for weird science peeling out of the parking lot.
I'll be back in two days.
Just get to find my Coke dealer really quickly.
Oh, yeah.
That's the first step along the way to write a script in two days.
Well, that's what, yeah, and also, Eric, you missed the last part of that sentence.
If you blow off the space dust, it says, without sleeping.
Yes, of course.
in two days without sleep.
Big Coke guy. Is Pepsi okay? No, it is nuts.
No, not for what I have to do in two days is not.
This diner ordering cocaine, not a soft drink, okay?
Like a ham and cheese omelet and some fucking piping hot cocaine.
Get it over here.
Piping hot.
But yeah, instead of any of that stuff, we have this, it's a shower scene where Kelly
LeBrox in the shower and no complaints here, except then you just got these kids and
they're standing behind her and it's really eerie
and like you don't, the joke
that ends this scene has to
start this scene because otherwise you're
like, what are they, it's not funny
to imagine them kind of
standing there fucking tossing off.
That's part of the problem is it's like, this is a
raunchy premise and it's
absent of raunch.
Yeah, because it's like you can't just
you can't just release this movie in the theaters in
1985 to a giant mass audience
and they're just prematurely ejaculated
every five minutes.
Oh, God.
No, it's true, though.
No, you can't.
But that's also something
that John Hughes isn't going to do.
This was like from the creators
of meatballs or porkies, the raunch factor.
But you're right.
I got to go through those movies.
I got to do my research.
There's some real bad times
at the movies in there,
on both franchises.
I believe it.
But because we have to do this game
where it's like sort of sexy
but very chaste,
that's why this joke doesn't exactly hit,
which is like, oh, it's them in the shower.
Uh-oh, no, they were just wearing their pants the whole time
because at the end, she's like, you guys really need to loosen up.
And she, by the way, I think she's great in this movie.
Like, her dialogue doesn't really make sense.
You know what I mean?
Like, all that stuff, she just hits it.
She's got a really good timing.
You know what I mean?
Like it's, there's a way in which that she is a dead-eyed,
just super sexy calendar model.
And that's not what this character is.
You know what I mean?
Well, I think that, like, that's why the other super sexy calendar model
that was Lisa before Kelly LeBrock was cast,
got fired after two days.
Andrew, I heard that was creative differences.
Oh, got it.
Yeah, the creative differences were this.
They wanted her to hit all of these like kind of longish lines that Kelly LeBrock has.
And her creative difference was she could not do that.
You know, that's to be fair.
That's a creative choice by her to not be able to do something.
Well, yeah, I mean, in back to the future, they had a creative.
difference and Steven Spielberg's created
urn's, get that fucking red head off my set
please. Yep, that was his, creatively
he wanted that
that no talent ginger off the set.
And then he was like, well, Mr. Spielberg,
I'll dye my hair, that's fine. And Spielberg was like,
I'll never be able to unsee
what I've seen.
And he got fired anyway. It's a harsh guy
that Spielberg.
A real piece of shit.
But so like, yeah, that's like kind of,
and then it's like, well, what are you going to do?
Let's hit the town.
because earlier in the first scene
and it's actually pretty funny Gary's like
we hit the town, hit the nightlife, you know what he's talking
about what he would do with these gals if he had
the chance. This kind of
running off of those lines reminds me of his
performance as Rusty Griswold
which it's kind of interesting because this
movie is why going
forward with those Lampoon
movies no one ever plays
the kids again
because he was supposed to do it and then John
Hughes was like you want to star in my
other movie and not do European
vacation and he fucked off
and so they just recast both
Rusty and Audrey
which hey
better move
Dana Barron couldn't show up either
because they recast the other one
dude do you know though she apparently
comes back as Audrey in that
cousin Eddie's island adventure
Christmas vacation too
what? Yeah dude
everybody's got to have a hot meal
who the hell plays them in Vegas vacation
now I'm wondering
it's either everybody in
I don't remember who just...
Yeah, Ethan Embry's rusty.
I don't know.
Pulling it up.
Audrey went on to do anything or not.
But so, but, you know, like hitting the nightlife, cool idea.
What if...
And here's something, John Hughes.
What if they just go to a regular club and everyone's just...
And it's like, oh, man, these kids are not holding their liquor and you could make a bunch of jokes at the...
Or even like, you know, a big hunky guy comes up like, what are you doing with these nerds?
Anything can happen aside from...
But imagine, Steve, just imagine for a second.
Okay.
If you took the scene from Animal House,
mind if we dance with your dates,
where like that scenes not terribly long, right?
And mind if we dance with your dates
as kind of the end of it.
What if we just did that little asshole clenching moment
and just made it a 10-minute sequence in this movie?
It's so crazy.
It's insane.
The quote, black club scene, you got to,
that's all it is, they go to a black bar,
It's a bar full of black people.
There is a thing. Oh, my God.
A Greek guy named Dino there for some reason as well.
Dudes. And Dino, did you get this?
I got this. No.
Dino is the same actor who played the sniffing accountant on Seinfeld.
Oh, that's amazing. He's also in Breakfast Club as the janitor.
The guy that's giving what's his face shit the whole time.
By the way, Audrey, Vegas vacation, Marisol Nichols, who's seen recently in Spiral as the
Captain Gazzara.
Oh, I did. I saw her in theaters as Captain Gazzar as Riverdale.
You're so excited to do that.
She's actually got a pretty solid career here.
Oh, that's cool.
Good for her.
But you're right, Andrew.
I mean, like the Animal House joke, A, which is like seven years earlier and is, and it is
like, you know, it's that we loved this joke back in the 70s and 80s, which is like
white guy on the wrong side of town, you know what I mean?
But even I think like, it's okay, you go into like a black blues bar.
or whatever we do the record scratch thing
and Lisa is like
they're just people that want to mingle
like go mingle or whatever
and then like it is funny because they all turn
around like they don't give a fuck about them. Yes yeah
you can make something out of
that but what kills this
is the Anthony Michael Hall
the voice that he's doing once
the character gets drunk
I'm not going to do the voice but I don't
want to mention one of the because it's
terrible it's obscene it's disgusting
but this one line
And don't, no one clipped this out of context.
I was insane for this eighth grade bitch.
Yes.
Wow.
What a, what, apparently big titties is mentioned.
There's this whole back and forth.
I do think the other guys in the scene are pretty funny.
They are.
They're all super funny, like, humoring this idiot white kid.
But like, it just, especially in 2024, it is some asshole clenching awfulness.
And we get their first of two.
of the bad F-bomb,
which now brings us past the Bill and Ted
Grace-Ferion, and now we're
into bad territory. Bill and Ted
only used it once per picture.
We have it twice here.
Isn't that thrilling?
Isn't that thrilling?
Other weird moment in this scene,
when they walk in,
Wyatt goes into the bathroom.
And when the door opens,
it's kind of a continuation of the record
scratch joke, except that
it's just three dudes who are already posted up
to the urinal, like, either cock in hand or almost ready to lower the flag,
and, like, the three dudes turn around at the same time and look at him,
I'm not turning around to look who's coming into the bathroom.
It's really bizarre.
It's like, are they tossing off together?
Why are they all sandwiched together doing this?
And what's a real cruisy bathroom, dude?
Like, you know, definitely, you could put your foot in the wrong spot.
You're having a really good time.
But also, speaking of that, he goes into the stall, why it goes into the stall.
Yes.
And like somebody, I guess it's the other guys like, oh my, or is that how that, because he sits on a guy's lap.
Yes, who's presumably.
Taking a shit.
Yes.
How do you not see that a dude's taking a shit?
Is it still a blumping if, if you're penetrating, if it's not a blow job, if it's your penetrating an ass?
No, that's the BL, Blump, blow.
Human centipede kind of vibe, I guess.
Yeah, it's more.
of a, I don't even know what it was here.
It's closer to a human centipede than a blumpkin.
I'll just, you know, I would call it a splash mountain because it's more of a ride.
I like you, you may or may not get wet as this is happening.
It's a ride that you will be covered in filthy water.
I'm doing my Craigslist post now.
Snow Bunny for Splash Mountain.
M for M.
That's posted.
But yeah, and like one of my notes is like, did Wyatt get raped in the bathroom?
because they cut immediately and you don't know what happened.
It's just this movie's just gags, you know, it's just dumb, it's a police academy, which
I'm sure is also rapy for poor comment on Eric Lassard gets a non-consensual blowjob.
And that, so it's a proud tradition in the 80s to have these raunchy comedies that don't mean anything.
But there is a weird, so like the guy, the sniffing accountant, if you look at the credits, like,
he's supposed to be the owner of the bar
this one guy and so it's kind of funny
because I didn't look up what this was
so he's playing this Greek dude
is the idea and he says something
about like oh yeah like
look at the little Malacaz over there
and he's and Anthony Michael
Hall like starts laughing and he's like
oh yeah man she's way into Malacaz
oh yeah yeah I looked up what that is
it's a it's Greek slang
and this is amazing because like this dude
this dude nailed this kid he's got him dead to rights that is greek slang for a guy that just jerks off a lot
and that's a very funny joke to be embedded in the layers of this movie and that's i mean that's enough
but like you cannot overstate how long anthony michael hall is doing this voice it's like doing it
on the car ride home and then in the house with bill paxton it's probably like eight minutes
Yes, of a 90-minute film
It's a lot
It's a lot of the film is him
Doing this voice
And it's just
It's really unfunny
It's
Yeah, but that one guy says
In the family Jules
Yes
Yes, because the girlfriend
The fake girlfriend
Need him in the nuts
And called him the F-bomb
Yeah
I love all the dudes
Being like
Need you in the nuts
Oh man he need him
the nuts
kind of great
and then like they're going
home and they're both wasted
she's driving
and like again like
we never oh by the way
on the no he's
Garrett White is driving this time
yeah yes but on the way
on the way in they give her the name
Lisa which I guess it's like some sort of an
Apple computers thing or something like that
I was like no
is that right yeah I don't know
but they give her the name Lisa and like
she just changes that
the thing to the the uh life's point to say lisa and like at this moment i just needed to be like
well you created me guys and i have control over all things in humanity and other what you know what you
don't know what you know what you're insane because like the strat the the length of that her control
of everything and everyone and changing people into monsters it's you're right it's a gin it's a supernatural
entity there should have been some element of that in there if she explained it anyway or if there was any
to make it a rule where she could do
X but not Y. Because if you're like
this movie, a better version of this movie
is Encino Man. And Zinomain is incredibly clear.
Right. A couple of lovable
losers. They dig up
a hunk to have sex with.
Exactly. And he has kind of superpowers
but he's only super strong and he's dumb.
And like that rises to popularity
et cetera in the school. And it makes, it holds
together. What did it have helped
if during the
we're scanning pornography
and everything's going crazy
with making Lisa
I feel like things may have been fixed
if we had one magic lightning strike
that'd be fun
because that's the other thing
that doesn't really happen anywhere
like because you've got yeah
I mean because you've got this weird
like the sky goes red
like goes to the gozerians coming
I know like that it's so weird
but like that
it never fully
works into what's going on
with the rest of the science experiment
Like, just one magical bolt of lightning will do it all.
Exactly.
It's like, whoa, what happened on my computer?
Why is it glowing green?
Because the lightning hit it.
God decreed we get some.
Right.
Maybe like Kelly LeBrock is playing like the human embodiment of Cupid or something.
And she looks down like, what are those two perverts doing?
I'm going to go mess with them.
Right.
Or she's ensnared by the computer's wavelengths or whatever.
And it's a poor, tragic godlike figure.
taken down to earth
and now she's having fun
I remember that we did
previous episode date with an angel
that was kind of like this oh yes you're totally right
I just thought of another one that would work too
that movie bedazzled just make her the devil
great and it's the death
and then they think they made a girl
with the computer but then at the end of it
she's like by the way
Wyatt and Gary you can either keep
your balls or go on a date
with the babes which would you like
Gary, we're damned for all eternity, shit.
I guess I shouldn't actually have sex with it then.
The devil is someone you can double penetrate.
It's not a problem.
No, it's a way into that.
Yes, exactly.
Any sin will do.
Plus then all the magic and the finger snapping and the changing the clothes and
making the cars out of the air and everything.
It makes so much more sense.
The devil did it?
Gary, the devil got me pregnant.
Yeah, we're.
Where is that on Lifetime's Halloween rotation, knocked up by Satan?
But the car, the car creation out of nowhere is insane.
I'm sorry, if you're a computer person, you can't just do that.
This is when they go home and, you know, Gary is very drunk.
And this is when we meet, yes, the great Bill Paxton, RIP, give it it as all.
Making this movie, for me, a two-star film, thank God.
This is the elevation.
Time to pay the fiddler.
I fucking love that line.
He's good.
I love this, like, this flat-top haircut.
he's a hard ass named Chet
This is like
So this is this is like
Terminator's 84
This is between Terminator and aliens
Wow
That's pretty great for him
It's awesome yeah
If he pukes you die
Yes
You two donkey dicks
Couldn't get laid in a morgue
Wow
Think about that
Which is fabulous
A little wink to the movie Mortuary
Where he plays a morgue attendant
Is he trying to fuck dead bodies
In that movie?
No but he's he it's like
there's like wacky shit. It's a fun slasher.
Check out. Oh, it is a slasher. Okay. I don't know if it was like a morbid comedy or something.
So it's a slasher not a tosser. It's a slasher or a tosser. Can I toss to it? Is there any scene that I could toss to?
You should toss to it. I did an episode on the Kill by Kill podcast for that movie. It was fun. Check it out.
I'm actually looking up just to make sure.
okay
just wanted to make sure
because there's tossing off
but then I wanted to make sure
that tosser
wasn't a more offensive
British slang
and it's not
it just means someone
who's unpleasant or stupid
okay see
every every British slang to me
I'm just like
Jesus fucking Christ
what the hell are they saying
well yeah
you never know
you could be rogering
that's fucking somebody
who's rogering
even what is Wanker's like masturbator
I thought that might have been
I was worried about that
They have a lot for masturbation.
They're very worried about it.
I think wanking may have overtook tossing off.
Yeah, for sure.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know.
We'll have to look at, we'll have to get the UK office on that.
Bill Paxton, as Chet asks Wyatt or ask Gary, who's very close to vomiting,
how about a nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray?
Apparently it's something that Bill Paxton's dad would say to him when he was drunk and
really?
Or hungover around.
Hungover, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honestly, I thought, I thought that would sound great if I've been drinking like a nice greasy pork sandwich.
Sure, there's a little ash on it, whatever.
I can eat around it.
No, yeah, because then the other thing you're having that's crucial for getting over a hangover is smoking something.
Yep.
Little something.
You don't want to just smoke that greasy pork sandwich.
You want to smoke something else.
So Gary passes out, Chet, Flea's wife for 175 bucks.
Don't tell mom, yada, yada.
Right.
And, which I didn't do the calculation, which I think is $25,000.
What the fuck?
He's got a, he's older, this is how rich this kid is.
Older brothers, like, could you give me the down payment for a house right now?
And him as a teenager, 15 years old in high school, is like, okay.
Yes, the fact that he, as a 15-year-old child, has $175 floating around.
Unreal.
I didn't have $175 to, like, last year.
Yeah, that's right.
Thank you all who chipped into the Patreon to make that happen.
So while Gary has passed out
This is where
Wyatt gets a little
Makeout lesson with Lisa
And she grabs his fucking took us
We're getting a little
This is England here
Because this kid is
Is like I think the actor is like 16
And she's in her
You know which is
It's fine
But it's just a little
It's less revolting
Than that makeout scene
Because the lipstick
Is it as bad
But like
But that kid's way
Little or looking
Yeah that kid's like 11
Yeah
That's honestly dude
I feel
like it's fucking apples
and are different things.
She's like 25 or 4 or something
filming this. He's 16. I mean
that's why you can't have them actually have
sex really. Yes. Oh yeah. Also that.
Yeah. No, that's completely true.
Unless again, unless they made a
priest, then it would be fine. Well, then it would be
ordained by God.
It's the will of God.
Now, speaking of priests, by
the way, did you guys catch the audio
cue here when they wake up
and Gary's really hung over?
you just and they're like what happened last night whoa whoa whoa
you are getting that the quick piano score of the exorcist
the do no no no no no no no no oh I didn't spot it but it's like just
gently sort of floating under them talking it was very odd
and again I think it's kind of like another it's one note off so we're not getting
sued by Warner Brothers and this is the whole like what happened
it must have been a dream it had how could two people
the same dream it must have been a dream right there is and there's also um right so
gary and uh lisa or why at least they're making out and like she's like well what do you
you know she's literally asking like what do you want dude i'm right here and he's like uh maybe a
gymnastics thing because i got a little hard on for gymnastics we cut he she wakes up he wakes up
her underwear and then she says like halfway through my gymnastics routine you passed out yes
She was doing a little show for him.
Nobody fuck nobody.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, no, definitely.
She's also, he, it's not just her underwear.
Like, he's wearing her entire outfit.
He's wearing like a sexy cutoff kind of thing where there'd be, you know, some underboob if it was on Kelly LeBrock, I think is the idea.
But I love, I mean, Chet just freaking out about it when he realizes, like, what he's wearing or whatever.
Like, Dad's going to go crazy and all this shit.
And fucking Paxton, I have to feel like this was an improv
and he surprised this actor
when he rips off the towel and he's like, cover yourself up, man,
and he's naked.
The way that the kid reacts, like, he kind of half starts laughing.
And I was like, I wonder if Paxton was just fucking naked
and like flash this kid or something.
Oh, that's another crime on the set.
We got to report this.
There's a scene where I guess they're trying to buy
perfume for her and
like we're kind of giving this teenage
countergirl shit.
Yeah. We're going to the mall now. Now we're
at the mall. Believe she was
briefly seen in the gymnastics
thing. Okay. Okay.
Yeah, they do appear to like kind of
know her from school or whatever.
This is Jill Whitlow.
None of you remember her as
Mindy and Porkies. I do not.
Oh shit. I'm going to give that spin
right after then. So you guys have girlfriends
and you're buying this perfume?
That's not how you refer to a 23-year-old woman.
She's our mistress or sex pot.
And it's a weird like, oh, so you're sharing her.
You're like a nerdy, loser, little thruple kind of.
So anyway, a place where you cannot be cheap is at the mall,
and this is where they are, right in time for a grade A public humiliation by R.D.J.
And other guy, Max and Ian are the characters.
Yes.
Basically, yeah, it's like this thing where they're kind of like they're hanging out with their
lady friends who we're now
if you're watching the movie you're like
okay so they're going to wind up with Gary and
you know if you're like now you've figured that out
there's yeah the two other girls
yeah and I'll give this movie credit for not
killing and Deb by the way
they don't go like revenge mode it's not like
yeah and we fucked your girlfriend
exactly it's like these are nice ladies
and I want to take them out for a date
which is a sweet twist on it I'm glad it's not
like the deranged like sexual
revenge stuff right I believe
Gary sits, they sit down, they're like
at the bottom of the mall, at the top of the mall
is the bullies and Gary
goes to why, you know this is the first time
I remember it felt really cool
and they get a big old icy
slushy, dumb, done. This thing,
I mean, this is a bucket. Whatever this
kid has in the cup is not
against dumb dumb dumb, them. This is like
a total bucket of fucking chum.
They're like telling the guy like, all right,
now you're going to put the cup kind of
over the railing there a little bit and cut
all right. Now, uh,
where's Jerry? Jerry, get over here with your bucket of slush
and it's a cherry icey. Dump it on these freaks. So it feels like
Kerry here. Yes, a little carry-esque. That's good call, good call.
The last time you had a slushy or an icy or like that. I can tell you exactly
I think, are we going to say the same thing? The Astoria 7-Eleven on 30th Avenue.
That's where I had it last. Yes. And I got, I'll never forget it was the most reprehensible
slushy I've ever had. Or there's seven
11, so there's slurpees.
Yes.
It was a crystal light.
Oh, no.
Dude.
So, like, crystal light, terrible enough when you just mix it with water.
You put it in a slurpy, that was trash.
I think I threw out, like, most of it.
It had been a couple of years for me, and I was like, you know what?
I used to love slurpees, and I was clearly stone.
And I, you know, I got my cherry going, and it was just like, it's so much sugar that
I could not handle it.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that might have been the night where I think I've been.
mentioned this before maybe 10 years ago on the show that I was so high maybe I think it was probably
ordering this slushy and then like the guy gave me change back and I kept on giving it back because I
didn't think I paid yet to the point where this this dude working at 7-Eleven just starts
bursting out laughing eventually it was a treat for everyone that can be I mean that
peak stonage cannot be achieved through smoke and bowls a
alone. That had to have been some Chris Cabin confection going on. Oh, probably. That Chris Cabin
cupcakes basically put me in the hospital a few times. I, you know, I, and I'm always like making
fun of these like, you know, columnists, columnists. Columnist. Like New York Times, remember
there were people like, I had a, a brownie and I was good to call 911. Oh, that was Maureen
Dowd in Colorado. I remember reading that and laughing at her. But, but I think she's got something here
because when Chris Cabin gave me,
when we saw the greasy strangler,
remember that night?
Yes.
I felt like I had a legitimate out-of-body experience
on that cupcake he gave me.
When he took me to a press screening of sucker punch
and I was stoned the next day.
There was like a middle of the day.
I had to go to work the next day and I'm like,
I'm still fucking high.
What did you do to me?
Yep.
And it's,
I mean,
there it is.
That's the real reason he's not here today.
Yeah, he's having an out-of-body experience.
He's in his cocoon.
So whatever.
More shenanigans at the mall.
They get douche.
The ladies that are with the bullies are kind of like,
that's fucked up.
We're getting tired of these guys.
And it is kind of a funny, like,
they're standing away.
Like, should we forgive them?
What the fuck?
And then, like, R.D.J.
And this other guy are, like, begging,
like fake begging for forgiveness.
And these girls fold like a towel.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, let's take them back.
Then they see Kelly LeBrock on the escalator.
and they're like, what girl friends?
Let's just,
it's funny watching the run up the escalator
after going down to go pursue her
and introducing it's not going well
because she's for these other guys.
And it was a nice moment having Anthony Michael Hall come up,
be the big man after the icy
have this Porsche and whatever.
Yeah, although I don't know how they're all like completely
fucking cleaned off.
There must have been a deleted scene
with some more Lisa magic going on,
she was like, Avada Calandri, everybody's shirt was cleaned off, you know.
But so she, but yeah, and then like there's some weird line where Anthony Michael Hall's like, yep, she loves the rough stuff.
What can I say?
What can I say?
It's like, what?
It's very weird.
Wait, what?
But it's also a kind of perfect thing for a dumb teenage kid who's never had a lick of sexual encounter in their life.
Like it's like, you're just repeating that from some fucking burnt.
Reynolds movie you watched her. Um, yeah. Yeah, she, uh, she likes the rough stuff, okay? And now I'm driving
a porch. Yeah, exactly. Dude, if Bert Reynolds says you like the rough stuff, you are in trouble.
Uh, is all I can say. By the way, I saw the most insane Bert Reynolds movie recently and everyone
should go and try to check this out. It's called The Maddening, directed by Danny Houston of all
people. Wow. Okay. And it's like Southern Gothic hellbilly type of stuff. He's like a
Fuck.
He's like a Floridian nightmare.
And you know who's in it?
Sloan from Ferris Bueller, yeah, mea, Sarah.
What?
Why was I just thinking?
90s.
90s.
90s.
Eric, did you write about this movie in the Big Daddy Dispatch?
Okay.
Yes, I did.
And I reviewed it on Letterbox.
Basically, my weekend rituals watching at least one Bert Reynolds movie.
Nothing wrong with that.
No, because I was like, why does this movie sound so familiar?
because I remember also like reading it
and being like, he's saying Danny Houston
directed it, that Danny Houston?
And like literally had to look it up on IMDB
and I was like, that Danny Houston, oh, okay.
It's like Bert Reynolds and Angie Dickinson
are like these hellbilly
type of people that like kidnap.
And it's, it's fucking crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
Where did you watch it, dude?
I think I just rented it on.
Oh, I thought it was going to be one of the streams.
Yeah, no, I just put money down for Bert Reynolds.
It's no problem.
No, money down.
Forever else.
The only other detail about this mall parking lot thing is Lisa invites Max and Ian to the big party that's happening at Wyatt's house tonight.
Which is sort of something that like it just sort of happens.
And again, like, I want her to be like, we're going to throw a party, guys.
It's going to get you all the dates you ever wanted.
I guess she's trying to say that.
Like, you want popularity.
You want a party.
Yes.
By this point, she's full like, I dream of genie turning a.
on lights in the house just by like pointing at them.
I do like there's kind of a cool shot where they're going through the house and yet
she's pointing, turning on all the lights and she walks from one room to another like with
the boys following her and they do a cool little cut right here where she walks out of view
wearing one outfit and has one hairstyle and when she comes into the other room to turn the
light on she's dressed and looking completely different. I thought that was kind of neat.
And again, this stuff can all be totally acceptable
if a magic bolt of lightning or she's the devil
or something is in play.
Lisa, Lisa, we cannot have a party here
because my dad's got the floor safe upstairs.
It's got all the Coke money in at the paint for the house.
We just can't have kids, nos it around here, okay?
I need to know what these parents do for money
because this is insane.
The house is outrageous.
Again, it puts the McAllister's to shape.
And Ferris Bueller.
Yes.
And Ferris Bueller.
And Ferris Bueller is the shame.
I will say if they were like Uber rich,
I feel like you're getting a private car
to drop you out from the airport.
They do pull up at the end of this movie
in a hunk-a-junk, yellow cab situation.
Hilariously called Cheap Taxi.
I don't know if you notice on the door.
It's pretty good.
Oh, that's how they stay rich.
But to create some complication,
ending at us to 90 minutes,
Gary has to
Lisa has to get Gary
to be able to go to Wyatt's house
even though that's not been a problem
with the entire movie
It seems like he lives there
Yeah it's like why does it need permission
But sure
So now Lisa is at Gary's place
We do get to Gary's place
We see Gary's dad
Played by the guy
From Silent Night Deadly Night
Who plays the Toy Store manager guy
Yeah
Yep
There it is
I was like
Let's all get shit faced
Yeah
I was like
Where the fuck is this guy from
Nailed it
That's great
That's exactly right. Honestly, yes, this is, this has deleted scene written all over it.
You're like, I feel like there's an alternate universe where, like, you're reading trivia about this movie and it's like, did you know there's a deleted scene where Lisa goes to Gary's house and fucks with his parents?
Like, because like this, you're right, it's nothing. He is basically living at Wyatt's house already.
But regardless, I think this is very funny. I love when Anthony Michael Hall and the mother are screaming at each other and then the dad's screaming at.
at both of them. It's a really, like, this kind of
yelling over each other, bluster was reminding
me of like, when the Seinfelds are all
kvetching at, you know, Del Boca Vista or whatever. Same kind of
we're all screaming at the same time, and I'm a sucker for that.
She's basically, we're, she's being honest, like, we're going to have a
crazy boles out party, and they're like, you can't take my son to a party,
and she's like, why are you so insistent on your son's only sexual
experience being tossing off to magazines in your bathroom?
The mother freaks out.
I never tossed off.
I never tossed off.
You said you were just showering in the bathroom.
What were you doing with the door?
She's like losing it.
And the dad's telling them both to shut the fuck up.
Hey, Chris, it's me, your brother, Jonathan Nolan.
Is that why you say toss it off from weird science?
Because here in Chicago, we say Jack and off.
I would say Jacket off the whole time.
I called you a jet.
The guy watches weird science every goddamn weekend.
He's toss it off.
I just called you a jerk off no more than 72 hours ago on an email.
And here you are saying tossing.
That's got to be weird science.
I prefer tosser.
Thank you.
I prefer the tosser.
Wanker.
By the way, the dialogue here is amazing because she also says sex drugs and rock and roll.
What is it?
Chips, dips, chains and whips.
Yes.
You know your basic high school orgy type of.
absolutely and the mother's just fucking crumbling more with each piece of information
the dad really gets saucy and then she pulls out a gun uh then i guess she does a magic spell
so that he forgets who his son is we know yeah that guy's just got debilitating brain
damage for the rest of his life because he does he's like who's this gary character
you keep talking about mother that type of stuff because yeah she's like don't worry gary
i took care of it they don't remember a thing and like the mom's like wow i don't know where
Gary is. And she's like, who the fucks Gary?
It's like, you just got your parents
fucking neuralized or at least your father.
This was one of the scenes
where I noticed
Anthony Michael Hall
really funny facial expressions.
When she pulls out the gun,
the look on his face is one of the funniest
things you'll ever see. It's a really
good, like, this kid
is shitting his pants reacting to this.
And she shows later in the car
that it is a squirt gun that looks like a real
gun. Right. Doodle.
but now the party's happening
Yeah, we had to take that fucking
five minute detour only to come
back to the house that we left to get
the party started. Listen, we got four sets
and the magical
realism of like, they open
the door and every kid in the world is there
and they're like, hi, we're here for the party. That's
something again, I'm into, like that's a funny joke.
All the kids come in, they
had so much fucking food at this party.
The spread. Oh my God, the spread.
And did the computer invent that spread? Did
the computer invent that spread? Did
Mom, tastes like,
Gigabytes.
You're right.
Like, does your fake magic food
actually taste good?
They should be eating
all the fucking frosting
from hook.
When a little kid there
had the fucking food fight?
I think magic food like this,
when it comes out the other end,
it looks like the hook frosting.
Oh, okay.
Your guts are wrenching.
Oh, my, yeah.
You're reeled over that toilet.
You're puking and you're shitting
because he ate computer food.
Yeah, there's no human can eat
what fairies create. You know what I mean?
Just like the realities can't mix.
And your fucking digestive system,
who-hoo. Well, I went to that party
last night. We had all that awesome
piping hot computer food.
Woke up this morning, took
a shit. There was just a bunch of neon frosting
in the bowl. I don't know
what was going on at that kid's house. I'm never going to a
party at Wyatt's ever again. Listen, if you're going to
eat computer food, this is how to digest it
properly. What you need is a microchip.
It's like the smallest little
Dorito in the world.
And you have one of those
That's computer food
But at the party
Ian and Max are there
With their dates
I believe the blonde woman
Was in Seinfeld right Andrew
She's the fucking respawn
In Seinfeld
This is Susan Snyder
Playing Deb
And so she pops up twice on the show
She was Ava
The Hot Nazi in the limo
Oh cool, yeah
And then she's also
Audrey
way later in the series
she's dating Jerry
she's the one that refuses to eat the pie
and drives him crazy
she's a puppy's daughter
that's right
yes yes yes oh wow
yeah it's fascinating
I kept calling them
Garfunkel and Oates
just because they're a blonde and brunette
and the brunette kind of looks like
Kate McCoochie
and it's one's dead
the blonde is taller than the brunette also
she was also in killer clowns
from outer space
that's right yes
and return of the living dead
which is a great movie
yeah
Yeah, she's, yeah, she's in the first return of Living Dead.
Yes, yeah.
I was like, that's a movie that I was late to the party on, and I'm like, that movie's awesome.
It's so good.
It's so fucking funny.
And speaking of that movie that has Tom Matthews from Friday the 13th, Part 6, the woman playing hilly, Judy Aronson, not as much going on, but she is a character in previous virtual live show Friday the 13th, the final chapter.
She is killed by Jason Voorhees
While she's just like out on a boat
Like in the middle of the night
Like nobody wants to swim naked with me
And he shoves the like machete up through the boat
Or raft or whatever it is
What are the rare non-window related murders in that film
Oh man
Got to stab her through the raft
No windows around here
I guess all right
Yeah Jason's installing a window on the boat
Before he can do it
And also like
I think this is this is where
the last
of the extended cut
things comes into play
because the party's
just getting started
Gary and Wyatt
total losers
hiding in the fucking bathroom
Come on guys
doorbell rings
and it's all
it's the line of people
from the mall
like when Kelly LeBrock
walks by all those people
it's like a bunch of dudes
and then one woman
Oh that's a funny joke
because the pretty woman
is playing and all these dudes
turn their head like
holy shit and one girl
turns out like holy shit
yes
that group of people
returns
you see them riding their bikes or whatever up to the house.
They're all wearing Devo helmets with flashing red lights on top of them.
And they go up to the house and she answers the door.
And they're like, oh, we're friends of Wyatt's.
Like, can we come into the party?
And all the people in the party turn to the door and scream, no, leave.
And then Lisa's like, oh, you can come in and let's the man.
And that's the other extended scene.
Did people not like Devo?
Is that the joke there?
I don't know.
I think it's just more nerds coming into the party.
Well, here's my question.
I didn't know that Devo and Oingo Boingo were cool.
I thought it was like East Coast, West Coast,
got a blood feud.
Right.
Like this shit got really tough between Mark Mothersboro.
And both went on to be accomplished composers,
Brothersboro and Elfman.
I'll never forget where I was when Danny Elfman's car got shot up.
Yeah, he was just coming out of that casino in Vegas,
and they shot his car up and he was killed.
That was a real bummer.
But yeah, you're right.
There can only be one art pop weirdo on the soundtrack.
God damn it.
Shooting.
They hear gunshots.
Everybody ducks down,
but he's just got a big keyboard like,
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Sounds like a gunshot,
but it isn't.
And now the party is underway.
You know,
one pretty good joke.
I think this guy,
Mitch from the blues bar,
has a good line here.
Oh, yes.
Right?
Yeah,
this Max,
the friend of R.D.J. is asking for a bottle of scotch.
First one, he says, you know, and he says, why don't you bend over and I'll shove it right
up your ass? On the rocks is fine. Yes. And he calls him a jive turkey, which is awesome.
Yeah, because they do go up to him and it's a whole like, hey, brother man. And like R.D.J.
kind of like puts the solidarity fist up. And this dude not having any of it, which is pretty
funny. By the way, speaking of RDJ, his clothing in this movie, it looks identical to back to school.
and I'm wondering is this just how R.DJ dressed in the 80s?
I think so.
I think it's how people dressed in pretty close to how he looked in Tough Turf as well.
Right? It's like all the same kind of wardrobe.
There is something about RGJ here that I did want to hit.
How he drove this other guy to his audition for Nightmare and Elm Street 2 and he got it.
That's really nice.
No, but the two of them apparently.
These two guys.
Yes.
In an interview with Howard Stern, Robert Downey Jr.,
cleared up the rumors that he defecated
in Kelly LeBrock's trailer.
He stated that he and his co-star, Robert Rosler,
Max, joked about defecating in people's trailers
throughout the shoot. They eventually did it
in one female cast member's trailer,
but it was not LeBrock.
John Hughes questioned everyone in the cast
and see who did it. And when he got to
Downey, he replied, no, but I sure wish it was
me who did it. He stated that
there was never any tension between him and Hughes
and he highly respected his friendship.
So that's so that's crazy cocaine RDJs.
What does that mean?
Does it mean shitting in the toilet or is that mean shooting on the floor?
That was what I was just going to ask, right?
I would say shitting on the floor.
Like if you went to the bathroom in someone's bathroom, it's like, well, who cares?
You know what Jared Leto's been doing to prank people?
But, you know, you can take a dump and like leave it in the toilet.
And then that's like, oh, someone left a poo in me trailer.
Yeah.
You know, it could be that versus, yeah.
drop and trow and shit on the floor like a dog
is that what we're talking about here you should do
you put like a zip lock baggy
I don't know around your asshole like you save
it is that and then you bring it to another location
would that be easier because then you could wipe your ass
I think my cat's been hanging out with RDJ dude
because he's been going outside the litter box lately
and I'm like what's going on
what are we got to do here man that you got to change up
that fucking Thomas said feed but
the litter box
Yeah, I think I need to get to do something.
It's either that or you're doing something wrong and he's letting you know about it.
Oh, yeah, he's pissed about it.
Anthony Michael Hall, while they're in this fucking bathroom, hiding from their own party.
It's just such supreme, this is like the loserist they get, I feel, hiding in this bathroom.
There's one part, though, it's very funny.
He goes, if you're going to float an airburger, let me know, which is, if you're going to fart, let me know about it.
But then this kid takes a shit in front of him instead.
I feel like again you're missing,
like there's so much meat on the bone here
where like maybe they go out in the party
and Gary's having a great time and he becomes a life of the party
and why it's jealous and he's like, you know what I mean?
Like these kinds of sort of things can happen and like
and there's a rip of their friendship.
It's like, oh no, you're being cool without me.
I'll never be cool.
Whatever.
You know what I mean?
Right.
That's something.
They can't like write these characters as they have to be the same.
same person.
It's like the same.
It's like,
God damn,
what were their name?
Gary and Wyatt are like,
Gary and Wyatt enter the room.
You can't just have Gary or Wyatt.
They should be more separate.
They should be more separate.
The dialogue is totally interchangeable
too.
You know what I mean?
It's my house.
Gary.
That's it.
One is from, you know,
his father's a plumber.
The other one is Pablo Escobar's
accountant.
And that's all you know.
I mean,
yeah,
because that's how you have,
that's how you have a really good
like end of your second act is like
Gary takes off
becomes the life of the party the house is destroyed
you fucked up my house Gary
and you're the popular one
and my house is shit out and we're
for you know whatever
five to 15 minutes of the movie
we're not best buds you know
instead it just gets wackier and wackier
and the stuff just stuff just
starts to happen at this point
now it's like now shit's just off
the rails
meanwhile we cut to
Wyatt's grandparents
which let you know he's definitely old money
by the way these two fuckers
because they're eating it's like they're eating at the restaurant
from the Blues Brothers and they're like
oh mother we should stop by Wyatt
I think that he must be so scared
home alone we'll stop by and say hello
the grandmother's got a great line here
though she goes nothing's more important to a teenage
boy than his grandparents
and eventually
when they get frozen in the closet
that Chet says, and when he surprisingly looks in there,
hi Nana, hi, Grampy.
Nice.
Look at this.
Grampy existed in weird science.
It's crazy.
Oh, dude.
I need a whole list of Grampy in cinema.
And I love that it's just Bill Paxon just call on his grandfather,
Grampy all the time.
Oh, hey, Grampy, Grampy.
Does anyone call their grandparents Grampy anymore right into the mailbag?
We all hate movies at gmail.
that kind of can i tell you something do you do it no i don't have any grandparents well you did
it's presumably i did no unless you're a computer guy uh no never never met my uh paternal
grandfather but my maternal grandfather we did not call him grampi but my father to some of my
nieces and nephews is grampy oh wow yeah wow you're a grampi yeah and sometimes my mother
shortens it to Gramps.
And I'm like, I'm like, who are you, Bif tanning?
Gramps is cool, but creepy.
It just adding that Y, it's just creepy.
It's weird.
Well, it's also a thing where it's like, there's like multiple grandfathers or like, you know,
we're having different names, you know, somebody had to fall on Graham.
They're all jazz musicians.
The thing that sets the party into wackiness mode is,
Max and Ian are like, hey, guys, how about if we give you our girlfriends, you lease Lisa to us or like whatever's going on here?
And so they're like, how about we do our same computer thing again for you guys and make you a babe that you two can also share?
And then this is, I mean, it goes absolutely insane again.
There's a fun sequence of a girl playing a piano who gets, we finally get some titties in this film.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Click and check at my watch.
Of course it's, you know, not exactly consensual because it's the clothing being ripped off of her while it goes up the chimney.
Through weird science means and like all the crazy stuff's happening again.
And the weird part is like, wouldn't this be a cool way to maybe set up like an evil Lisa or something or like something like, you know what I mean?
But it just, it's a missile because they don't they don't do with a Barbie doll.
There's a magazine with a nuclear missile on it.
You had to be big shots, didn't you?
And you forgot one big thing.
We forgot to hook up the doll.
You forgot to hook up the doll.
It's like, this is not science.
None of it makes sense.
And also, like, the missile means nothing at the end of it.
It's not even like, oh, shit, the missile's going to go off.
So, you know what I mean?
That would be funny if it launched.
Or like it armed itself or whatever.
And there was a ticking clock to this plot maybe.
The Russians get involved.
I don't know, like something.
Oh, would that be something?
Because again, all the stuff starts happening without consequence or precursor.
And it's just random.
This is where R.D.J. yells, I'm shitting my pants.
Which is very funny.
I would love a cutaway to Russia.
Like, Dimitri, the Americans have made a computer woman.
We shall make our own.
This is why, especially when you introduce like a nuclear missile into the movie,
I mean, this is a great reason why fake John Ritter and his other government co-workers from that one
hack scene should be on the trail of what's going on.
Oh, now we've, we have, you know, radiation signals coming from this place.
What's going on in Shermer, Illinois?
Yeah, like an antagonist.
It could be the government, like war games a little bit.
Yeah, that'd be fun.
I mean, very much a war games vibe, right?
But the missile is just there.
And I mean, it is whack ado to look at at a certain point.
Now, now the magic is going crazy.
This is when the kitchen turns blue, which is a cool effect.
I like the way that looks.
I like all this stuff.
It's very fun.
All this stuff is changing the dogs on the ceiling, like you mentioned earlier.
There's a guy that gets beamed into the television set, and he's there with Frankenstein, and he's scared.
They change the channel.
Now he's, like, flying through the air, like an airplane, basically.
That's pretty great.
That's some fucking Freddie Kruger's shit right there.
Or that's in that Twilight Zone, the Twilight Zone, the movie.
The kid gets stuck up the TV, and that's terrifying.
Oh, yeah.
Not about that.
I try to not rewatch that or think about it.
It's got some funny parts.
Listen, the Lithgow remake of, you know,
nightmare at 30,000 feet or whatever is great,
but also children were decapitated making a movie.
And a grown man lost his head as well.
All that said, that's a good sequence,
the victim was a sequence.
But I really didn't like the kid that controls everything, you know.
Yeah, the Anthony.
That's what the TV.
Yeah, no, no, that's two different.
The Kid that goes out of the The It's a Wonderful Life, the Anthony riff from that's right.
And then the kick the cat is the most boring thing that's ever happened.
Oh, right. I forgot about that. Yes.
Of course you would. Yes. It's so boring.
So here's, so she's like, they need a challenge.
And like she summons a biker gang, which if she, if it was just a thing where like, you know, you cut to a grody bar down the hall down the road and like they all go, let's go to the party.
You don't know. I know where a party is. And these real bikers go to.
do this thing. And it's so funny that it's, it's two out of three. It's Michael Barryman from
the Hills Have Eyes, who's freaky looking, sure, right? Sure, yeah. Yep. And then there is
the dude, the great dude from, uh, from Mad Max to Vernon Wells. Vernon Wells, uh, who gets
the most dialogue who's fantastic in this movie. Playing like the same character. It's basically
yes. Yes. And he actually, it's weird because it's a John Hughes movie, uh, they won't
let him be gay in this movie. So he's got a lady on a leash, which is kind of odd.
Yep, totally.
As long as they're leashed, I'm happy.
And then finally, you get this mute from Mandy Nightmare guy.
And I'm like, well, what the fuck is that everybody?
My notes is the Mandy Biker Devens.
Yes.
It's definitely that.
He also actually looks like another one of the Hills have eyes guys.
Like it kind of looks like the father of the clan or whatever.
And he's got like robot voice and all this shit.
And I'm like, I just like that guy doesn't need to be in the movie.
Because then they're from hell
As opposed to just like
Literally bikers that are
Because like the guys from the the blues bar
Are just dudes from the blues bar
You know what I mean?
But if she was the devil
It would make total sense
Can I tell you how you you could have done it though
And it would like her magic
Like it would have been justified
Keep in that opening conversation
With the two of them
Wyatt and Gary
Because in that
Anthony Michael Hall is talking about
how the scariest movie he's ever seen
is Dawn of the Dead
and so you have all right so then you flash forward
to this part of the movie Lisa goes
those boys need a challenge
she looks and maybe Wyatt
also a fan of Dawn of the Dead
or whatever the fuck has like a zombie
poster on the wall and she goes
hmm and then the house is besieged by zombies
and that's like a thing that you can kind
to play with or shit maybe
he's got a fucking road warrior poster
and that's why that dude is
literally Wes. Yes.
But it's, they come in there on motorcycles
and riding around his house. Everyone
is terrified. They steal their dates,
you know. At this
point, they are hitting it off with both
Kildi and Deb or whatever.
I mean, they're hiding the closet at one point
and these bikers ripped them
through the drywall, which is pretty cool.
That's kind of, speaking of Jason Borges, dude.
Like, that guy comes right through that drywall
and pulls that kid through. It's kind of funny.
Averted Wells is awesome in this sequence.
He's so good.
He's so funny.
The dialogue is so
not appropriate for him
because he's just talking
like a high school
he's like you and your lousy dates
you bunch of nids
or whatever he's saying.
You two unpopular
dicks having a party.
Yes.
He knows that they're unpopular.
How would all your friends here like
to hear that you wear a bra on your head?
Yes, yes.
Tossed off to any good books lately.
Oh, yes.
But so this is
White and Gary. I do like
that the way
that they sort of summoned this courage
is because they've both accepted they're going
to die anyway, which is pretty
funny. So it's like, all right, let's start
telling off these dudes. Anthony Michael Hall
coming in hot with that
other fucking F-bomb right away
at Wes's face here.
What are you and your F-bomb
friends get out of here? And it's
like, oh, really? And then
he pulls out the gun from
earlier. And
this freaks them all out.
you know.
Right.
Gary or
Wyatt winds up getting
Wes's shotgun
away from him.
Yes.
And they sort of leave
quietly.
I like the woman,
yes,
with a collar and chain
around her neck,
being like,
oh,
you know,
thanks for the party.
He's a lovely house.
Yeah.
It's so good.
Like,
what was it?
The guy with like
the metal face.
It's like terribly,
sorry,
call me.
We can do lunch some time.
And then Pluto
from the Hills have eyes
or whatever is like,
I'd hate to lose
my teaching job.
Can you keep this between us?
Yes.
Oh,
that's so.
fucking funny. And all of them, it makes
more sense. If that guy isn't from
hell, I don't know why he needs
to be a mutant. I really don't.
It's so weird. Although, you know what's very funny
about it, though? Because, like, one of the things is when they're
terrorizing the party,
they're driving the motorcycles, like, up and down
the staircase. Anytime
there's wild motorcycle driving,
if you look to the motorcycle that it's
supposed to be carrying Michael Barryman,
it's a stunt guy with, like,
a cone head guy, fake
to make him look like that.
dude who's got the abnormality that's
like, you know, he was just born with it or whatever, but
like, like, if they have to make the stunt guy
look like that guy and he ain't wearing a hat, so he's
just the stunt man has a cone head on. If you're
a Michael Barryman and you're like getting a snack,
like, oh, you know, I just, I know I'm not, you did
today, it's just the stunt stuff, but I just kind of want to
watch John, oh, you got to be
fucking kidding me. Yeah, man.
But I figured out, Steve, why
they have to, that they could be mutants, is
because they live among you.
They're all around.
That's true.
Westchester.
Oh, he is.
My friend Michael Berryman.
Oh, you know, he was done dirty, you know, in the film Weird Science, you see.
When they put the stuntman in, it was a man with a rubber cone head on.
And his superpower is having a pointy head.
You know, sometimes I can control all of humanity with my thoughts.
He's got a pointy head.
It's just, it's a lottery system, really.
The mutant god works in mysterious ways.
Oh, yes, and metal face.
What an accomplished biker he is.
No, that's it.
His face has got some metal stuff.
Not all the way metal, but some metal parts.
He actually, I realize now it's kind of like a precursor to Cano in Mortal Kombat.
Yeah, it's a little bit.
Because it appears like metal is like implanted into his face.
He looks mostly like the woman in Superman 3 who gets turned into a computer, which still gives me nightmares.
But always scared me.
And honestly, this movie, when I was, because I saw,
this like very young, kind of got
a little scared of Chet being turned into that
monster coming. Yeah. It's kind of
freaky. Yeah.
I was like, how did that happen?
Anyway.
Great line when everybody
leaves or whatever. I do
love, first of all, the joke of Anthony Michael Hall
being like, wow, we got him. Did you believe how we
saved all these people? And he's waving the gun and all
the kids are ducking. That's very funny. That's funny. I like
that part. Yeah. And it turns out to be
a real gun, which is the joke. Yeah, he finds
it up. It shoots down a light fixture.
Yeah, all that.
But what's great, and man, just like, weird how sometimes this stuff kind of lines up
where he's talking about how, like, oh, we're going to be famous because of this, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We might even get a guest spot on Phil Donahue, RIP, Phil Donahue, by the way.
Very recently RIP, yeah, sad story.
Driven off the airwaves for being a critical of the Iraq war, right?
He got, yes, something he got pushed out for.
Yeah, I don't really remember.
But, yeah, Phil Donahue.
pretty all right guy i have to say you look back on some of the the folks he had on his show there
that he gave airtime to uh real deal um LGBT community like a shock of white hair you know like
a real deal like a fucking my hair is white absolutely and i think he was a dude that like his hair
was fucking stone white when he was like 42 exactly yeah he's like an unfunny Steve mark
God, that's very accurate.
And then like now the guys and the girls hook up, right?
Basically like Wyatt and the brunette get together and Gary and the blonde get together.
The blonde seems a little more impactful where she's like, well, you made Lisa.
How am I ever going to compete with that?
He's like, no, if I ever made her again, I'd make her to look just like you.
Honestly, Anthony Michael Hall has some really good lines at the end of the movie here, like well-written lines.
I mean, like, that whole exchange is really nice.
And then in a few minutes when he drops her off and he's like,
this isn't my car, these aren't my clothes, blah, blah, blah.
And she's like, why are you telling me this?
And he's like, because I want you to like me for who I am.
It's a very well-written scene.
The movie finally decides who's the protagonist.
And I kind of leave the other kid to the side here.
I mean, he still has that moment with his girl.
But it's like, it's way more impactful and longer with Anthony Michael Hall.
Because also with Wyatt, his whole night with Hilly that we see or whatever, that all just ends on a joke where she goes, you know, they're going to kiss or whatever.
And he's like, she says, would you kiss me?
He goes, what about Ian?
She says we all make mistakes.
To which he responds, the last line of their scene, where do you want it?
What?
That's what he says.
Hey, where do you want it?
I'm a downtown idea.
right here
I guess that's the joke
and they don't really have
a nice moment
the way that Anthony Michael Hall does
because also this woman wakes up
because Bill Paxton's fucking freaking out
basically the order operations
is they kind of hook up
they all kind of sleep together
Bill Paxton wakes them up with a shotgun
in cold blood style
and gathers them into the family room
returning back
Again, in cold blood style.
I love that, yeah.
It was right before Christmas.
He was like returning from a hunting trip or something.
He's got this shotgun.
Holding just a dead duck by its like neck.
Yeah, that's very strange.
Because like, where was he that whole night?
They don't give Chet an out there.
They don't.
They're like, oh, goddamn, Chet's going to be here while our parents are gone.
But clearly there's probably a scene deleted of like he's going to the lake house or
something. He's going hunting. They're huge,
they're huge lakehouse
that this rich family of course. And he's like, all right,
now you turd burglars better
not do anything while I'm gone or
whatever. Like that's a scene
that kind of needs to me in the movie. I need that
scene. I need the bride of Frankenstein
scene. I need the scene where
the devil through a bolt of lightning
takes over the computer.
Now it's the devil
through a magic bolt
of lightning takes over
the super government computer.
Do I have that right?
Excellent.
And all it does is make a lady.
A magical lady.
We do.
He does find the grandparents.
They are terrifying in this closet.
It's like my vague fear of old people.
It's very lynchy and these two like stuck with grimaces on their face.
They came over during the party and like delay like their fucking freak out.
She freezes them because she can do that.
She can just press pause on you and puts them into this.
closet. Yeah, and that's what Chet opens it up.
And it was like, hi, Nana, hi, Grampy.
Wait, what? Yes.
And he's got a shotgun. He's rounded. Everybody, I was like, I want to know what's going on
here. He's shoving the shotgun into, not, I don't understand shoving a shotgun into your
brother's face. I've done it and I'll do it again. But sure.
To the girl, to the, to the girl he's with it's shoving it in her nose. Yeah.
It's a little much. And then he, he definitely like boops both of them on the head with
it as he leaves the room.
That's fair game.
Basically, at least it's like, I'm going to time.
Me and Chet are going to have a talk.
You drive the girl.
So we already talked about this.
Because again, like, it's so funny, like what we decided to do in this movie.
Aside from having the scene where it makes sense where Chet would be gone for the thing.
No, we're going to have a weird car chase for fun.
You know what I mean?
Like just that's weird.
An 11th hour car chase just to do it.
We've seen sports cars.
I guess we need a chase apparently.
So he's taking her home.
And then the cops come after him because he can't tell which.
which which is the miles per hour, I guess, is the idea of here?
Yeah.
Or the RPMs or whatever.
He's looking at the RPMs and thinks that it's miles per hour.
But you would know you're not going 30 miles an hour if you're going 90.
Right.
I mean, again, like dumb, dumb kid excuse, I guess.
But like me as a dumb 15 year old kid would know what is and is not 30 miles an hour.
We do get a classic, which I want this to happen to me one day.
You make a cop throw his hat on the ground, a jump.
bump and down a couple of times.
He definitely does a like weave in between the railroad marker to like get through the tracks.
That's, you're going to fucking kill your girlfriend after your first date, buddy.
You got to be careful here.
But yes, he drops her off, why it drops his girl off, they come back.
And what they come back to is Chet being a unholy goblin.
It's brutal.
He's a pile whale shit is what it looks like with arms and teeth and a face.
He's like one of the early designs of critters
And like no one wants to watch a whole movie of that
And they just scrapped it
They're like oh, you can use it
Yeah like oh that's the scene where they discover
The King Critter and he looks like this
And everybody was like no
It's just insane like you make a lady
On your computer now it's turning people
Until like slug frog monsters
It's just nasty that eats like a fly
Like he's got a huge frog tongue rather
He eats a fly with a frog tongue
And the whole thing is like
Well you've got to be nice to your brother
and this, then, the other thing.
And he is like,
now it's funny
because Bill Capaxon's voice
out of this monster
and he's like,
hey guys,
how's it going,
dudes?
And he's like being really nice.
I got to say,
and you just kind of made it feel even more so,
but you have this puppet thing
and it's going,
hey, dudes,
what's up?
And it is Paxton,
California kind of voice or whatever.
It's kind of like a Ninja Turtle character at that point.
It's vaguely Ninja Turtle-esque,
yes, for sure.
Yes, thank you.
Ninja Turtle ask, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
By the way,
Wyatt, you are throwing
that relationship in the garbage before it started
sir, because the girl
Haley is like, well, I'm going to certainly be grounded
for this and it's kind of a funny jail thing
he's like, well, I'll wait for you, whatever.
She goes to the door, he goes, hey, Haley.
And she turns around and he goes, I love
you. And she's like
we just met, this is
maybe wait three days.
Seriously. Maybe when she's
out of being grounded, maybe you can
greet her with and I love you. Maybe.
You say I love you like that on the first day.
You just knows the second your pants come off, you're going to come.
Like there's not even, there's not even a chance for any penetration.
Did that happen last night?
An instant does, you know.
Oh, but yeah, maybe that's what I was.
Sorry, Hilly.
I just got a little excited there.
Oh, geez.
You didn't even get through your gymnastics routine.
Weird science.
Oh, yeah, dude.
They got to like mix it in with the beat.
weird times
it's alive
from my cock to my hand
Why doesn't she
understand weird science
Oh man
Premiseal ejaculation
Is it real
It is
It certainly is
But so like
And this is what bugs me about
It's the end of the movie
There's a nice
like you know Lisa's like
I'm going to get changed to get out of here
and she's like kind of a businessy kind of attire
you know what I mean like she's like well when Mary Poppins
leaves the house she's in her formal war too
at the end of the adventure and like you know
it's funny because the boys know
that they have to break up with her even though she is
totally cool with it you know what to me like this is what
she wanted but she gets
choked up you know it's been a fun ride
guys or whatever and like
goes away
and the last
the ending is so stupid the ending is
nothing. It's not a punchline
because a punchline needs to be set up.
Her being the new gym
teacher is like another
you get her in a cool
leotard of, which is fine, but
that's the reason for the scene. It is
and then all the boys faint. Like, weird
science. It needs to be a thing
like she's obsessed with like,
you know, I always wanted to be a flight attendant or something
and then like at the edge of the flight. Like
there needs to be some thing to set
up to make it quick. She was made
as a sex object and she's like, I'm going to go be
sex object at the high school
gymnasium. The only thing that makes
sense is that she wants to really fuck a 15
year old boy. That's the only thing that she wants.
She just wants to straighten
these kids out. Sure.
She doesn't want to bang any of them. That's what she even
says. She says to them, I'm
really just getting off seeing you
two guys get straightened out. It's a line
that she says to them. Also, why
it doesn't make sense even more,
Steve, that she's just the gym coach at the
end, is because in the scene
right before that, we have this
little intermediary thing where it's like
why it's parents come home.
Oh, right.
But when she's like, all right, guys, I got to go
now. And she steps back through the door
and just fog comes up
and she vanishes.
Yes. So how she goes from vanishing in
the doorway to literally
working at a high school.
It's so, and listen,
this is what happens when you
write a script in two coked out days
without sleeping. Yeah. I don't know
man, maybe she just, she evaporates
to a pile of white smoke.
Yeah, that'll do.
That's just how she travels now.
But also, yeah, she reversed everything in the house.
The missiles go back underground to God knows where.
I love all the reverse footage.
It's fun.
Yeah, it is.
The fucking piano going back in.
It's all very cool.
But yeah, it just ends that John Hughes, I'm looking at the camera and isn't this all funny?
Weird science.
That's the end of it.
Go around the horn here, though, for some final thoughts.
recommendations for John Hughes
Weird Science. Eric Siska.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's
got its moments. It's not, obviously,
it's a lesser John Hughes for
reasons cited within, but
it has some fun moments,
and it's got an amazing soundtrack.
I really like a lot of the music
in this, and
you know, part of its nostalgia, I saw this
a bunch growing up. I mean, it's a very
light recommend to not recommend. I give
it two and a half on letter
box, but I'm still kind of like, yeah, if you
haven't seen it you know
check it out
Steve Sadek
yeah it's a not recommend for me
like I said I never really like this movie
and it
this time didn't help too much
it's just like there are some good jokes
some good performances Bill Paxson's pretty good
Michael Hawes moments
you know Lisa is
is effective at points
but it just sort of like it's the script
that just sort of never wants to
make anything hang together
and like by the end of it
it's 90 minutes, which is great.
It's just sort of like,
ah, that happened.
All right.
It's one random thing after another.
And that,
as opposed to something that is a bit more thought out
or has any rules or structure to it.
So there you go.
Yeah, no, I'd say this is,
it's a light recommend for me.
You know,
I won't go so far as to say like,
it's a problematic fave.
It's a problematic-y nostalgia movie for me.
Because I did see it a bunch as a kid.
And like I said,
I embarrassingly watched.
that TV show a lot, which by the way, I realized also,
so Lisa is played by the woman who's in Kingpin.
Yes.
In the TV show.
Venice Angel.
Yes.
And Lee Turgeson from Oz, among other things, is Chet on the show.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, the other two guys are complete and total nobodies, as far as I could tell.
But, yeah, I mean, you could go way worse.
I mean, I don't think it's an amazing comedy.
I think I said on Letterbox, an extra half star, possibly even an extra full star.
for just loving the fucking soundtrack and the nostalgia of it all.
But yeah, I'd recommend.
Not the best movie in the world,
but definitely I think the worst,
unless Curly Sue,
like Jim Baloochie's pulling some real fucked up shit in that movie
that I don't remember.
I still think Weird Science is the worst movie John Hughes directed.
I know he wrote other movies,
and some of them are also not good.
But as far as his directorial body of work,
I think this is The Pits.
And again, it might be one of his worst scripts.
you've got to take more than two days on something.
You just do.
Wait a second.
This TV show lasted five seasons.
That's huge.
Five seasons.
That's why I was trying to say, Steve, when you were like, why didn't they do an evil
Lisa?
I stopped and I was like, did they do a fucking evil Lisa on that TV show?
Or am I thinking of Quantum Leap where there was the Evil Leaper?
Oh, yes.
Oh, God, I love Quantum Leap.
Hell yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
Or just Poseidon.
It's the Poseidon Adventure remake, to be very clear.
From 2006, with Kurt Russell playing, you guessed it, the mayor of New York City.
Yeah, I fucking wish.
Oh, dude, yeah, absolutely.
Dude, get my vote.
He would not need ranked choice voting to get his fucking ass in the chair.
No, absolutely not.
Yeah, no, I will tell the tale of what happened to me watching this movie in theaters.
So that is going to be a lot of fun.
I'm excited to revisit this movie because it's a disaster movie that's under 100 minutes, I'm pretty sure.
Love that.
So you do love that.
So that's going to do it for this week.
Thanks for tuning in.
Until next week, while we're talking Poseidon from 2006, I've been Andrew Juppin.
Stephen Seder. Eric Sisko. Take it easy.
Thank you.