We Hate Movies - S15 Ep760: A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master
Episode Date: October 1, 2024“More often than not, I’m fighting for my life!” - Eric, on his recurring nightmares On this week’s episode, our Halloween Spooktacular kicks off and, in the spirit of this year’s FOUR-OR ...MOVIE theme, we’re chatting about Renny Harlin’s English language debut, A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master! How great is this Freddy-assisting dog that pees fire? Did we really need to start the movie with a Bible quote, when a scroll about the lore of the Dream Master would’ve been much more helpful? How cool is the big Freddy soul escape sequence at the end? And should Joey’s parents have bought him that water bed? PLUS: Did Wishbone the Literature Dog flirt with human women on that show? A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master stars Robert Englund, Lisa Wilcox, Tuesday Knight, Brooke Theiss, Toy Newkirk, Andras Jones, Danny Hassel, Ken Sagoes, Rodney Eastman, and Jake as Jason the Dog; directed by Renny Harlin. Be sure to check our website for all ticketing information on our final shows of the year in Seattle, Portland (Oregon) & Boston! And don’t miss our worldwide digital event on October 23 where we’re talking Scream 4! Can’t make it the night of? The show has a 14-day replay window after the broadcast! And for our Patreon subscribers at the $8 & up, the After Party Q&A bundle comes free with purchase of a ticket to the show! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Bus Movie, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.
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This week on the program, Rennie Harlan, directing a horror movie. It happened.
It's a nightmare on Elm Street 4, Colin the Dream Master.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Zedek. The Eric Master.
Chris Master.
And we hate movies.
Sometimes death is better.
Zombies have entered the building.
They're at the door.
They're coming in!
It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicca Man.
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
He's sick for fucks using one too many movies.
Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies?
Movies don't create psychos.
Movies make psychos.
For creation!
Put the fucking ocean in the back!
What an excellent day for an exited.
Hello, everyone.
Welcome to We Hate Movies.
Thank you for tuning in.
As always, that's right, the spooktacular is on.
Four, four, four, four, four, four, four, four, four, four, four, four, four.
Why do horror movies when you can do a month of four-or movies?
That's right, dude.
That is, if you have not to receive the Big Daddy Dispatch yet, that's the fucking dumbest
donkey dick theme we have going for the
spectacular. I mean, I think we have a real good
diversity of titles, a good diversity of fours going
on here. I think we slayed with the
curation. Well, we've gotten rid of all of the good
ideas and all the ideas left have scurried to the corner
of the room. We have come up to them very
like, but you know we put on the big suit.
Yep. We go very quietly
up to them like, come on, it's okay. And the first
one to come out was four or a month.
Yep. And there's only
four left and they're trying to eat each other
right now. But this one
I think has been working pretty well so far. Well, we've done
some good fours already, right? We did
that Hellraiser Bloodline. That's the fourth
one of them. We did last year's Halloween
virtual show was on
Friday the 13th of final chapter.
This year, yeah, Scream 4
we have as our virtual show. I'm very
excited for. You're excited
for it? I'm for it.
Yes, I was for it before I was against
it. This is like, this
one is similar to our WLM
episode, which is on the Patreon.
Yes, Halloween for the return of Michael Myers.
A return to form four kind of a thing.
Return to form.
I don't form form.
Form.
See, these don't work if you're not typing shit, so you just got to not do it.
I'm typing it right now.
I think I like three more than I like four.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Oh, for the move, for this movie.
But in general, four is a theme, is pretty sharp.
Four looks like a knife.
Three looks like a, I don't know, what is it, a ball sack?
A sidewise sack of tits.
That's right.
Sack of tits.
Yeah, well, a sack of tits for the tuit.
A collection of tits.
This is like, actually, when you're a younger person, like, you'd like hanging out at the
diner with all your buddies and, like, you'd be the last one to go.
But then, oh, here comes Rich and Tom.
Oh, those are cool dudes.
And you'd stay for the second round.
That's what this, that's the structure of this movie.
You show up with one crowd and you leave with another.
Good call.
Good call, yes. The basic idea
of this movie is that the surviving
Dream Warriors are being picked
off by Freddy so he can finish
the job from the last film
and you'd think that should be enough for a movie
but these poor sad sacks a shit
are dispatched within the first 15 minutes
and it's a whole new cast of characters
including you recast your lead
actress Patty
Patty Arquette no longer in this motion picture.
She knew what the fuck is. She's not
going to be in two Friday
two nightmare movies. Hello Patty!
Yes, this is Rennie Hardin.
Hello.
I understand saying no to that voice.
But, I mean, this movie was huge.
This movie was dominating the box office.
It was number one of the box office for three weekends in a row.
Yeah.
It cost at the time, which was, it was the most expensive movie in the franchise and, like, varying stories as to why Patty Arquette did not return.
She was knocked up.
The agent asked for too much money, yada.
I'm just saying.
Patty, Patty, Penny, it's Rob again.
Yeah.
Uh-huh. Yeah. So you're going to pass out. I'm just going to just think game this out. You do this one, then you're in five, then you're in six. Now you're making a lot of, it's not like you're ever going to work with Martin Scorsese. It's every, you know what I mean? It's not going to win an Oscars someday, sweetheart. You're in four, five, six, okay? And then get this. No, you kiss your career goodbye. I'll be able to work at conventions. And then you sign stuff and take pictures, easy money.
Look, getting paid
10 large
for a fucking, you know,
convention appearance.
Sure.
Yes. Oh, yeah. You put in a day, maybe
a weekend's worth of work if you're the
honorary in whatever Florida
Swamp Convention you're going to.
That's a way to make a living that I would love.
I'll sign your fucking garbage photograph
for the rest of my life.
No, yes. No, no. They hired me off of a great
Dunker Rouge commercial I did.
It was a fantastic party. I was happy to do it.
And I am working on, this is a fantastic.
I love this idea.
We have Andrew Dice Clayk plus
koala bear
detective agency.
We are calling it the koala
detective agency featuring Ford Lane.
Fort Ford-For Lane.
Ford-Four-Lain.
Four, four, four, four,
I forgot, did he direct that, huh?
He did.
This was his first, like, big English language thing.
I think...
Well, does that movie...
Prison, which I never saw, which is it...
Oh, you know what? That's fun.
Is that which movie? It's another horror movie that he did
right before this.
Which I always, every spectacular
I almost watch it. It's fun. It's worth seeking out.
That's not the Christopher Lambert movie. No, no, no.
No, it's a horror movie in a prison.
Oh, oh, wow. That's Fortress you're thinking of.
Oh, yes, it is fortress. Is that where he is now, prison?
No, he's okay. He's...
Is he dead yet? No, he's making movies back in the Motherland, I thought.
Oh, yeah, yeah. He's had some, like, Swedish or finished, like, crime movies.
Well, you've got to go back to the homeland for that health care.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. But if the IMDB is to be believed,
And again, a lot of this stuff is probably true because these fucking ape people just cut and pay shit the hero in DVD special features and put it on the internet.
He was so desperate for this job that he was going to the new line offices every day asking if Bob Shea was in, asking for a job.
And is Bob there? Tell me what you want me to fuck.
Just tell me, I'll suck something. I'll fuck something. I'll let something fuck me. Whatever. I just have to direct this Freddie film.
I've been having nightmares every night about not direct.
directing it, come on. Are you
want Gina Davis to peg me? Absolutely.
Absolutely. We get that going and then
we get a freddie movie on the book.
That's what we call it. Cutthroat Island.
Feel a little bit of Gina Davis pagan for the table?
Yeah, what if I can... Did he direct that too, right?
Bargaining shit. Yes, you did direct that.
Absolutely. Garbage.
Did you anyone here? Well, hang on to say. Hang on it. Oh, please.
Okay, yes. He went to the office every day
to the point where Bob Shea was noticing, his clothes weren't changing, and this
dude was starting to smell. And he gave him the job so he could afford
new clothes. That's the
apocry on IMD. And plus the
writer's strike was happening really soon
and if it's to believe they were
just filming this Marvel style before
they even had a director like they were doing special effects
shots beforehand. Again, all apocryphal.
Has anyone seen because I haven't
because the runtime is like 395
minutes that never sleep again
documentary? Oh, I've dipped in and out. It's the same
thing with that crystal like memory shit. Dude, you don't
need to watch all of it. No, just I mean
also like if there was ever
before we were doing that, if there's ever
like the time to break up the documentary
into pieces. No kidding.
Once you start tapping 300 minutes
about Freddie Kruger, let's just do
part one and part two. But here's the other thing.
When you are just making DVD
special features and then at some point
you cut it into a single thing and call it
a documentary, sounds like a
you problem with that one time. That Michael
Jackson documentary was in parts, right? What was
that? Finding Neverland? Yeah, two parts
on that guy. Two parter. Part one,
the fax machine. It's scarier
than Freddy Krueger.
certainly is much more
but we start with a
Tuesday weld song by the way
not Tuesday weld at all Tuesday night
doesn't matter of fact
God damn it's gonna we do that all day now you fuck the rest
of us that's great
but also a quote from Joe
because if there's any way I want
my Freddie Kruger's third sequel to start
it's with a Bible quote is this
is Joe Bible is that Bible or is that a book in the Bible?
It's a book in the Bible
I thought it was like a
you know like the Lord of the Rings
and then that salamandestron or whatever
the fuck it's like a second thing oh no yeah
there weren't many bible spin-offs dude it's just
a you know the bible's an anthology
series eric not a appendix or anything
anthology horror right yeah oh my god
totally incest killing kids
that poor lot I loved him
lot lot got a raw deal so it starts out with
when uh when deep sleep
fall fallers fall fall falleth
falleth on men that's right okay I
miswrote this
fear
I'm going to say
it's my handwriting
but it's tight
it's tight
fear came upon me
and trembling
which made
all my bones shake
Job 413
14
oh yeah
oh fuck yeah
I can't wait
to watch this
fucking movie
dude
I love MTV
at the book of Job
are we insinuating
that Job was
visited by
Freddie Kruger
were there Freddie Kruger
types in the Bible
even back then
There's all sorts of fucking hell demons in the Bible, dude.
So, yeah, probably.
Right, okay.
Some of them were sweater.
Some of them were sweater.
Not all.
Santa Claus?
Santa Claus, I mean, also could be a demon.
I would believe it.
He's a demon.
Yeah, this guy was a, he swept the temples and then, but he was like praying to the wrong calf.
And they burned him alive.
Oh, is that what that's about?
Yes, yeah.
Oh, my God.
That's the biblical tale of Kruger, from the book of Frederick.
Right.
they shoved him into that oven for worshipping the wrong cow
that's right i mean we start at what looks like the jimangi house after everything happened
i love this i love this this series insistence on like keeping it to this fucking house man
this is the house from the first movie and it's really tough to start in a dream sequence
you need someone to be like hey christian hey christian hey christian we know you from the lat
you know what i mean like it's just it's just a blonde woman at this point you don't know who this girl is
You make fun of Friday the 13th for doing all the previously on.
I could have used one here.
It wouldn't have been helpful, though, because, again, you got Patti Arquette playing the same character as this Tuesday night woman.
You make your, you refilm your previously on, like Evil Dead 2.
Yes, there you go.
Very.
The elements of the previously on.
That's it.
A lot of shots of, like, Patty Arquette from behind so you don't have to change as much.
Patty Arquette from behind.
What is this, my search history?
Actually, maybe I just redo it the whole film.
It was a piece of shit.
It wasn't directed by Reddy Haunted.
Yeah, this is Tuesday night singing Nightmare.
Oh, good.
And, like, yeah, Bible verse not getting me a psyched as like the dock and tune at the beginning of the last movie.
That's, we're the dream warriors.
Fuck yeah, dude, you're ready to do battle with Kruger that very night.
Well, how about chalk drawings?
How's that getting you?
Well, that plays into the little kidness of the kid killer Fintzugar and all that.
It's always a communion just broke out on Elm Street when we start these movies, isn't it?
He's always killing these girls in mid-May, I guess.
No, the boys are in suits too.
I saw.
No, it's prime fucking communion season, dude, right?
His spring is starting, you know?
Look, I got a busy spring, okay?
It's always just a little bit higher that time of year.
It's also just like the clothing of all these people.
And again, like, let's remember here, the parents of the kids from the first movie are who, you know, committed this thing on him.
And so we're talking a 1984 Heather Langenkamp, in 1984 Johnny Depp, they're like teenagers.
So let's say like 60s, late, no, no, no, no, no.
Like, yeah, like the mid-70s they're having First Communions, right?
Why are they all dressed like it's the Great Depression?
Like, I understand your ghosts and it's a nightmare and whatever.
Well, I mean, much like the Great Depression, you have to be prepared for, like, your kids just to die out of nowhere.
Like, all the time, you're just getting used to, like, well, we had three guys.
Oh, well, there goes one.
It's slaughtered in it.
Right.
That's why the Oki's were moving around so much.
It wasn't so much looking for work.
It was, they're going to be asking about that kid.
Oh, yeah, down the road there.
Yeah, that dead kid down the road.
Oh, let's go to the next town.
There's just too many gravesites on our land now, Edna.
We have to leave.
It's kind of funny, though, man, because, like, what you're describing.
is sort of the graves of wrath.
Oh, nice one.
The shoulder shrug, deep-bellied sigh reaction
that this town has to kids dying.
Oh, yeah.
And it's not just the parents reacting this way.
It is the kids, too.
It's like, oh, yeah, fucking Sheeler died yesterday.
Yeah, total bummer.
I am so stressed out about this test.
It used to happen all the time.
You know, like people would run around the pool.
Now there's signs for that.
Last cracked heads.
If I was one of the, here's the thing, though.
Because, like, again, we were said that Kincaid, Joey, and Kristen are the last three of the Elm Street kids.
Right.
When they are dead, that should be the end of it.
But then, you know, spoiler alert, she pulls Alice.
Kristen fucks it up!
Kristen pulls Alice into her dream.
And then now, by osmosis, Freddie can kill only this group of friends.
But I wouldn't be fucking furious if I was like the dad of like Sheila or something.
Like, no, I specifically didn't burn that guy alive.
Hey, excuse me.
Came to my house that very night with torches and pitchforks in hand, and I said, excuse me, celebrity wheel of fortune is on. And I have no fight in this fucking. I wrote a defense of him in the paper. People wouldn't even talk to me anymore. I believe you also believe in guilt by association. So she gets it too. I'm sorry. It's so messed up. I wrote that note in support of Freddie Krueger for the local newspaper. And then 40 years later, I wrote a note in the local newspaper supporting Danny Masterson. And again,
My friends stop talking to me.
It's not fair.
I was into, not that I was into it, I just thought he was innocent.
I was glad, listen, they didn't, the word was in the wrong place.
That man should walk free is what I said.
Oh, no, I won't get involved with Ashton Coucher.
No, I'm scared of that guy.
That guy's got some skeletons in the closet.
I'd rather not go near.
I just want to kill some kids.
I'd rather rot in hell for all eternity that have him support me in a letter.
I went into his dream and he punked me.
I got punked
He came out wearing a backwards hat
I've been to hell of course
I've also been to hell too
Which was that Steve Jobs movie
Holy moly
That guy only dreams his movies
That's a rough one
I totally forgot that Ashton
He played Steve Jobs
And then also Michael Fasspenter
Yes
That's another dumb idea
That one at least worked a little better
In the performance department
Just a little bit
Just a little better
But so she basically is like
walking around the old
nightmare house
and we're here
in the thing
you're expected
for her to pop out
at any moment
and she gets very spooked
and she calls in
her two good buddies
Kincaid and Joey
after a window
explodes
like this is like
you could tell
Rennie Harlan
was destined
for action
greatness
because it's like
she's just like
gently peering out
this window
and the whole
window explodes in her face
and she gets like
shot across the room
again with the action
thing
and I think that like
you think
like something dire too it's like these they look really similar like that super sleek yeah like
really clean like you could see especially with the bluerre you can see every fucking thing
which is not great for horror you know what I mean like you want a little bit of grime
especially like when you're in this house yeah it's like you can really see the set of it all
right you know what I mean and so she's pulling in her friends of these dreams and Kincaid's like
not again is she pulling them in for everything like you have a dream about a spider
Oh, I would hold it. Get it, get it, get it. Get it. Get it. Get it. Right. They hit it with the newspaper, did Kate? Really? This is what you pulled me in here for, Kristen. I was having a dream where I was on the beach with Pam Anderson. Because I constantly dream about like spiders and serpents. Yes. Yes, this is Dan Johnson, but I want you and Kincaid to watch. So you just sit down in the chair and watch while me and him go at it.
Oh, I forgot. There was something about what you were saying there. And now I, my spooky dreams.
I wish I could call you guys in there
I was just as I fucking so
rarely remember my dreams
Where was the last time you had a nightmare?
Oh a nightmare?
No I couldn't tell you
At least once a week
Is that right?
Oh yeah
Like what like boring things like oh I miss sweating or what?
No like creatures
Oh really?
Yeah I think it just means I'm going to hell
Are you going through
In the mouth of madness
Like turn maybe?
I've always been Chris
This is not like a new thing
This is just my life
usually any
six out of ten nightmares that I've had in the last
20 years it's like is this a nightmare
let's like my brain just starts to do the work
of like let's not do the nightmare guys
kind of I've got a recurring location
which is a nice beach house I've never been to
but a lot of the time it's just me being
put upon by family
and I guess that's a nightmare
and it's a way I guess but it's a lot of just like
I can't believe we're all packed
into this beach house
I have anxiety dreams like that
like family stuff or whatever that kind of shit happens
usually it's boring like you're walking around that
for me it's like you're walking around it's boring it's nothing
really happening or
I'm or maybe it's like a little sexy dream
or maybe more
more often than not I'm fighting for my life
against what
just a force
neighbors
invisible people
cigarette smoking neighbors
ghosts
you're more creative than me man I'm like oh no
I'm on tour and I haven't watched the movie
and we're going on
See, I don't get those about the show
And I'm glad I don't have to have a fucking
Pitiful office job anymore
Because I don't have
I would have the you missed the meeting
You fucking sign the email like all that shit
And I would wake up like thinking those things happened
And that's always the worst
When you wake up and it's like
You spend the first 10 to 15 minutes of your day
Feeling shitty
Because you think that thing was real
And then like you'd be driving to the office
And it'd be like oh
All that meeting now
ever had. Oh, that was completely fucking fake.
Yeah. Oh, I don't work there
anymore. What's this? You get
bit by a dog, though, then you wake up with that.
Well, that's true. So, here's
the question, because he, in both of
the early dreams, he is the
catalyst. Jason, the dog.
Is everyone paying
attention? Isn't that something? It is
something.
Is the catalyst
of, like, in the first dream, like, he's a dog,
not a cat.
Oh, he's a dogalist.
He's a dog list.
Because, like, Joey's like, come on, you know, Christian, nothing's happening here.
The pipes are cold, which I do love the idea, like,
Braddy Krueger's Nightmare Factory.
Kruger, back in business, smokestacks, bustle in.
See, the furnace says out to lunch, be back in five, so we're okay.
Everybody knows if Freddie Kruger were still here, this be hot.
I mean, everybody knows that.
They've been outsourcing my jobs.
The pipes are cold.
I'll tell you this, man.
I like that third movie better
because this Joey's not talking in it
he's mute through most of that
third movie is probably more fun
once they start like setting up this world
where like I can pull you in I'm like
no no no no no don't you start
no no no no it's because that's
it betrays
what the only thing that this movie
this franchise is not the only thing this franchise
has a franchise is a lot
but it's the cool setup right
like this is vengeance
upon your children and all that
cool shit
I don't know.
I don't know. Any kid will do now.
That's right. That's true.
Freddie can do anything supernatural.
I don't want the kids that, that's the good, like the kids versus it.
The kids shouldn't also be supernatural.
Like that's weird.
Now, I mean, it is.
But here's what I'll fire back.
A movie that sets up something like this better.
I don't know if it's a better movie because they're kind of just bad slasher sequels.
But Friday the 13th, New Blood, which I just rewatched for the calendar holiday.
a couple days ago. Similar vibe here.
Similar vibe and it's a character you're introducing
that has a power that can be used
to fight the villain. Like the
girl in that movie has got like Carrie
type psychic powers, whatever.
The movie does a good job
at setting up that situation.
This movie, she's just
kind of doing it and I guess she was
kind of doing it in the last movie a little bit
because they are the dream warriors
but like again maybe though
to your point, Eric, there needs to
be a previously on Freddy
Yeah, a little bit.
And then Alice, so like basically like
Pipes are cold. Uh-oh,
Jason the dog bites her.
Jumps out of this furnace, which is very funny.
Yeah, bites her right on the arm.
And then she wakes up like a Freddie Krueger thing.
Her arm is bleeding.
Now, do you need a tetanus shot for that or like a dream tetanus shot?
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
Like try to go to sleep and wake up in a nurse's office,
which we do happen.
It does happen later.
That actually does it.
Well, can she go to the county and get this dog dream put down?
Yeah.
I wouldn't do that to Kincaid.
Oh, yeah, he's not going to help you anymore.
Oh, you think I'm going to help you.
This thing's Freddy's minion, it's pissing fire and waking him up.
But what if Dream put down is just you kill him in the dream world?
So now he's not dreaming like you, you know, live your life, live his dog life like you.
Yeah.
No dreams.
Just you fall asleep and it's just blank darkness for five hours.
I would give anything to not to make the nightmares go.
And I just wake up and I go, still high, huh?
I mean, that might be your fucking answer.
That's true.
It could be the vapor.
at 11 p.m. Well, well, you're fucking
vaping right now in the studio. Do you vape late at night
before you go to sleep or no? Sometimes. Sometimes.
That means, yes. Do you find it affects your dreams
at all? No, I remember my dreams.
You remember your dreams, all right, once you? Let's lay
some out. I, it's usually
I'm being chased. Really?
Yeah. Well, not like in like an intense
way. It's just like, uh, it's
kind of like, uh, like home alone
the beginning of home alone when the morning of
like everybody's like getting ready
to go somewhere. Right. But like
nobody's going anywhere.
They're all staying in the same place.
Oh, that's tough. Yeah. But like, they're like, no, but we have to leave it at this time.
Is it ever like really funny though? Like everyone's racing around, but like you're the only one on rollerblades?
Sometimes I definitely have something going on sometimes. Like sometimes I have a suit jacket on the whole time for no reason.
Oh, that's you're late for a business meeting that day.
Something like that. I can't believe I'm the only one fighting monsters.
No, no, I don't have monsters.
Dude, I'm telling you.
Just time. The biggest monster of them all.
That's true. Just go to bed fucking super high.
I guess I got to do that. I got to do more of that, less being dream.
drunk every night, I guess.
Oh, because, dude, the fucking, the whiskey will give you dreams.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Gin, too, that'll be two added snakes again.
Monster sleep at the bottom of the bottle, Eric.
So we cut to now what was going to be our new protagonist, which is Alice, and she's
kind of getting ready for school with her.
Because we go to Rick and Alice's house because Rick and Kristen are dating one another.
I just, I can't not tell you how fucking, like, I just immediately turn off.
We're like, oh, man, we got rid of Freddy.
He's not coming back.
Is he?
Yeah.
Well, let's wait 25 minutes to have him come back.
Yeah, let's just get to it, man.
Yeah, I totally agree.
But once he's here, he's really going for it.
True, but I'll tell you this, you know, to that point, though,
Chris, maybe the rule is one monster at a time because we meet this father.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
This fucking Jim Walsh on steroids, this fucking guy.
And he's given the fucking kid shit.
It's clearly like the mom is dead.
Yes.
Because like the, Alice is like looking at a picture.
later of the mom and I think there's something like if mom were here dad wouldn't be abusive to
us and you're like well yeah because he'd be being abusive to you and your mother probably
look if you want me to be nice to you why don't you find me my friend jim beam
you get him back on my good graces we find out now rick is like oh man whenever you see dad
with pink eyes and uh and uh and whatever it's a real incommunicado kind of day
real kieran culkin vibes from this kid Rick yeah yeah i can like
that. I didn't think of it at the time.
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I can totally see that.
He does, and this is, by the way, of course, the great Lisa Wilcox, as Alice, also in part
five, also in Milf Manor, was it?
Oh, my God.
Milf Island? Right.
Which one?
Milf Manor. Yes.
Where her son got turned down because he's a real long ago, that's what you said?
Your words, not my?
That is my words. Yeah, but you're quoting my review in the times.
You were saying he was a bit of a dud and none of the Mills wanted him.
God, no one wanted him.
Are you not allowed to leave the Milf Manor until somebody has sex?
Is that how that word?
You can only leave it.
It's a bunch of skeletons.
You can only leave in a body bag.
I really wish I had seen this New York Times review.
Yes, there are many mils, but then they deserve a manner.
They don't.
Not this quality of milk.
So let's talk about Lisa Wilcox for a second.
What was going on on this show with her?
Honestly, I kind of forget.
She came in like halfway through the season or something.
So they're just changing out milfs like fucking tires?
There's no rule.
in the Manor, dude. You guys got to get hip
to Milf Manor. By the way, don't watch
this show. It's terrible. But that's
why I watch it. I love watching. Oh, shoot into
Dilf Den. Instead, you know, your
time could be better spent watching the family
Stallone with my arched nemesis,
Frank Stallone, who's in that
show, which is a delightful show.
And I hate watch. But so Lisa
Wilcox on Milf Manor, she's getting
down? I don't remember
if she fucked or not. I
don't think so. The thing is, I think she was
very tame on the show. Real? Because
There's some real firecrackers.
Oh, well, you got a firecrackers.
Garbage milfs that are here to fuck.
Did they talk like that?
Yeah, I'm Crystal and I'm here to fuck on Milf Manette.
That's one of my monsters I fight in my dreams.
My name's Evelyn Alligator.
I'm here to fucking kill men.
They are like that.
Yeah, it's actually Milf Marsh because we live in a marsh because we're the garbage milfs.
We just kind of lay down at the marsh and get bow.
Manor calling Staten Island
this spring.
Garbage mills that make our dreams
come true.
Now yeah, we're boiling children
this morning.
Did anyone know that she
was an actress or is an actress?
I think they talked about it.
Oh, okay.
All these stories about working with Rennie.
Honestly, the thing is
they should have done more with it.
Right.
She showed up and then she was going.
I felt like it was a blink and you miss it.
But then again, remember,
bottom of the bottle
Every episode
of Milf Manor
I have to walk through whiskey and gin bottles
to get to the bedroom
Well yes I am an executive producer on Milf Manor
It's a fantastic piece of
I'm actually making movies with
With my good friend Pierce Brosnan
Nowadays but I
I do make some time for the
Milt Manners
You know back in the 80s I used to fight a nightmare demon
But if you select me on Miltf Manor
I'll make your dreams
come true. Yeah. That's
the intro piece. You know, part of the package, they say, in the business.
We get to school. We meet all of our kids. I got a package.
Wait, excuse me.
They're returned to sender. Never mind. Okay. I don't have the names in front of me.
Of the kids? You got, yeah, you got the, the workout girl.
Workout girl, Edmund, right, Debba. Debbie is.
Steela is the nerd girl. Nerd girl with the asthma. Nerd girl asthma. Classic
combination. That's
peanut butter and jelly.
Workout and bugs is like
maybe too much. Maybe that's why she's going to
stomp it in the parking lot.
So what do you think like, do you think she like
how does that, okay, so you've asthma
you love to read?
Yeah, that just happened. Yeah. And
glasses. Did you love to read first?
It's a chicken and eggs, baby.
I think the reading comes first and then
the asthma. Okay. Or it's like, I can't
go outside and play softball.
So I would.
literature. We're sorry
to tell you, Mr. Mrs. Johnson,
your child is a bookworm.
We don't know what to do
about it. We don't know what to tell. She will
probably develop asthma. That's usually what we see
with the bookworms. You can hear some glasses.
She'll grow into those. No worry.
I do like Rick doing his little
karate kid workout to drama-rama
which is pretty fucking great.
Is this
is this when he has the flag out or is that a little
later? The flag is like
The flag? It's a real like we go to
school quick and don't see anything and come
home. We get as far
as the parking lot. Got it. We meet
Puffer Girl and we meet
Bug Girl and they spy
the Dan the jock
from afar. Dan
fucking Air
Dan. There's nothing going on with this dude.
This guy is like Eli Manning with less
charisma. Dude I said he looks exactly like
Eli Manning and I know it's he really does
exact same acting ability.
With the introduction of Puffer Girl with the
asthma right. There's the one dude
that says you're sucking the wrong nozzle
as in you shouldn't be sucking
the inhaler, you should be sucking my
Johnson. And that guy I think
is, is he the football player from Beetleju?
Okay. Oh, nice.
I was thinking about Beatles. I don't think we survived that bus
crash coach. I was thinking about Beetlejuice while watching
this, you know, like the whole dream
other world. Oh, yeah. Beetlejuice
and Krueger and Hang out.
That'd be great. Let's see that, buddy
comedy. Weren't those
both 1988?
Maybe. I think so. Was Beetleju's
1988 also?
Sounds right.
Yeah.
I would put money on it.
Well, because especially when they go into the dream world and there's all, like,
neon lights and shit all over the place.
And I was like, yeah, it looks like Casa Day Beetle.
So she's, there's a great Rick gay joke here because.
It is 88.
Nice.
Dynasty, the dynasty jokes.
No, no, it's like, we don't kiss and tell.
How about you guys to Kincaid and Joey?
Oh, yeah, you got to throw that in.
It was also like, I was in the last movie.
Why am I getting razzed by the new kid?
You know what I mean?
That's true.
I should be razzed him.
You've got to die for me to take up space, you know?
And this is Rick.
Yeah.
Because he's kind of a skeptic about the whole thing, right?
Yeah, he's like, I don't believe all this stuff.
Also, how did all these kids get out of the mental ward?
You know what I mean?
Well, that place was closed.
I think, first of all, out of business.
But Steve's got a great point.
Once you get in the system, throw away the key.
Keep those kids in.
They're weird.
Does Craig Watson's character live?
through the end of that movie? He does, yeah.
So, like, what happened to him?
I think at the end of that movie, it's like,
ooh, Craig Watson has looked at the dollhouse
that someone had, like, the light goes
on in it. Yeah, sure. So, like, he might get
haunted, and then they were like, no more Craig Watson.
No, he was busy making those great albums.
Yeah,
so, yeah, it's like we do
the parking lot thing, and then we go back home
immediately, because this, we
walk in, yeah, the brother's been
doing the karate for a little bit.
Alice is making dinner, and this is the
fucking dad comes in
and it's a real like, this
vegetation's supposed to be a dinner
after a 10 hour work day? I'm like,
I don't know, you're the one that's 47.
I leave my job
and I drink two bottles of liquor in the car
before I get home. And this is the meal
you have prepared for me.
What am I, a rabbit?
And shit they do at least twice
in this movie and I, boy,
I don't know if it's just been coming up recently or what.
I have grown to hate this trope.
The, a character does some. Oh,
just happened most recently in night bitch
Chris Cabin. A character does something
and you're like, wow, pretty baller for that
character to do that. Uh-oh, they were just
thinking it. Oh, yeah. She turns around
and she fucking tells off the dad, blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, wow, good for you, little girl.
Oh, and she was just imagining that.
That's like a lost thread
of the Alice character,
which is she's a daydreamer.
Which is kind of interesting in the context
of this stuff, but it doesn't
really make sense. And then later on,
she's like, I don't know, I know something about the
Dreammaster.
You're like, the what?
Don't worry about it.
There's a whole class about it.
How about, instead of starting your movie with bullshit Bible quotes,
why don't we get a little scroll about the Dreammaster?
Yes, that's and out to what that guy was like.
Time of Memorium, there's always been a Dreammaster.
Right, he guards this gait or not that gate.
It doesn't really matter, but we're going to call it this anyway.
I know, yeah.
It's like Slayers in Buffy.
You know what I mean?
There's a lore there.
I guess we're trying to name it the dream master
because she can contribute to these powers
she can control she suck people
so it's like he's met his match
here's the dream master
and that's kind of the beef with this movie
and I think most of these movies
except for the first one like the rules are never
really clear like what Freddie Kennedy can't do
what you can do in your dream
what a dream master is
that's why at least in the first movie like
Heather Layencamp spends time figuring that out
she's like oh shit mom I fucking
brought the hat out of the dream
Like, you see her develop knowledge about the process as we learn it as the audience.
And this is like, they're just throwing shit in and then forgetting they suggested it or, you know, whatever.
Well, it's always a last minute, like, addition to the mythos that, like, allows him to kill him.
And then when you start the next one, you have to bring him back.
So now you have to add something else or break a rule you already made to keep making these fucking movies.
This and Halloween, it's just like it's too much.
It's contradictory.
It's going this way.
It's going that way.
you have to admire. I know a lot of people think
the Friday the 13th series is the lesser one
but it's simple-minded. You got
Jason doing Jason. That's
all you need. Yeah, you can't kill
him. And then... Yeah, it's out. Oh, now
he's back. Yeah. Or somebody
like unearths him from the bottom
of the bog. Exactly. So we cut
to Kincaid. He's kind of dozing off
with his dog here.
Jason!
Oh boy, I almost forgot about it. It just
gets funnier every time I hear it. Great dog
by the way. Oh, yeah. No, this... Excellent dog.
I do want to say part of the dog performance that's really awesome is a few scenes back.
We talked about it.
When he bites Kristen to get them out of the dream or whatever, Kincaid wakes up like,
what'd you do that for, Jason?
And you look, this dog is covered in blood.
It is so fucking funny.
Do you think that dog was disappointed that he didn't get to bite Patty Arquette?
It's like, oh, wow, this is filling night, huh?
When I signed on, Rennie and I were talking about this.
It's going to be big scene with me and Patricia.
It was really exciting.
Yes, it was me and the dog.
We were up until 4 o'clock in the morning drinking vodka, talking about his role.
He kept on saying that he was doing this one for the resume.
And then the next one was going to be a start turn.
But this one, because he wanted to work with Patricia Arquette, the fool.
He says he won't leave the dog house until Patricia is on set.
What am I supposed to do?
Come on, we're losing light, Bruno.
Come on, oh, please.
Look, you, Bruno, as Jason the dog, is really the heart of the...
picture and we cannot
pump our blood of
cinema without our heart
hold on uh uh yeah so jason
people are telling me that's a joke about
I thought it was like a Jason and the Argonauts reference
I thought we were going like really really
metaphorical metaphysical here
you're a fire
oh I just got it I'll tell her
I'll tell the dog that it's a stunt double
this woman is the stunt doubles
will you be okay
biting the stunt double Jason
Proof. Excellent.
This is Patricia Arquette's understudy.
You understand. We just have her on set just in case.
Oh, thank God. This is going so well.
The last dog actor I worked with was Hannah Sam.
So they both go into dream.
They're in John Saxon's Graveyard, baby, or junkyard.
This poor kid wakes up in the trunk of a car.
Oh, it's tough.
I was hoping for Saxon.
I'm always hoping for Saxon. I'm always hoping for Saxon.
life. I woke up tonight. I was like, maybe
I'll like turn on the TV, get a little saxon
fix. When I have a bad dream, I just want like
a Saxon glowing gold
being like, hey, kid, I'm here to help you. Here's what you got to do.
It'll be all right, Eric. You don't have to have
them nightmares no more.
Welcome to hell, Kincaid.
Well, I love Kincaid's line
where he's just like, hey dog,
this isn't my dreamland.
And I was like, oh. Hell it isn't.
Yeah, well, we pan back, we pull back
eventually, and we see that this junkyard
goes on for the entire plan.
It's where the fucking Autobots
and Decepticons came.
It's a planet of junkyard.
I'm after the Allspark.
I don't even know
what it is. This shit's
convoluted. I just know Omnacrown
or whoever wants it.
But this
dog just starts digging up these
bones. And like, if you're Kincaid,
you have to immediately recognize
where you are. Get out of their dog.
get out of there dog
and start calling your friends in immediately
be like you know let me get all to my dream pals in
listen if I am in a place
where I watched a skeleton dance around
only to be like buried in the ground later
or whatever the fuck goes out at the end of that movie
I'm never forgetting what that place looks like
no
well I don't know if he's there
that's what Saxon's doing
kind of at the same time
as the dream warriors
are in their mental it's
I don't think we all go to the graveyard
at the end. Oh, oh, oh,
Cicade never sees that? Oh, I thought they were there at the end. I'm trying
to stop a tweet if I can't.
So, yeah, whatever. The dog's
digging up the bones. What's going on? Get out of there. This dog
through his red rocket pisses fire.
It's awesome. It's so cool.
It's never explained.
It's actually, I appreciate.
He does. This is like a Freddie dog.
You need to put this dog down because, I mean, like, you know,
Kincaid is now
it was going to be dead in a minute
and then like this dog
is gonna keep wreaking havoc
to this family.
Also Kincaid when you see
this skeleton reconstituting
jump down there
start taking bones apart
yes, start throwing them around
regardless of if you ever
were there at the end of the last movie
you see the gloves.
Stories were told
legend was made
you've heard we buried
this fucking skeleton
in a junkyard.
What are we doing
putting all the pieces
next to each other
this is why the English put
William Wallace
in all these different spots
quarters
Because if William Wallace,
skeleton was next to each other,
and reconstitute, come back.
That's a good one.
He'd be saying crazy shit about Jews and sugar tents to be wild all the day long.
I mean,
maybe the royals would like him after all.
They might.
I mean,
that's the thing,
I am actually with Joanie Kincaid.
This is all Kristen's fault for looking for him.
Yes.
She's poking the bear.
Constantly going back to the foundry to be like,
well,
he could be here.
You don't know.
I know it's cold now,
but it might be hot tomorrow.
Joey,
does it feel cold?
It doesn't feel like it just was hot and now it's cold.
Just shut the fuck up.
Sleep.
I would be, I would also, I would move so far away from her.
Oh my God.
Like, I don't want to see you like, okay.
Elm Street.
I am leaving.
Elm Street is down the road.
Forever.
And like, yeah, you can call me into your dream, you cycle bath.
But also you can't run into this person in the middle of town.
It would be better if not.
No, yeah.
No, we never should see each other again.
Absolutely not.
No, that's, with all of these, you know, strenuous circumstances.
Like we just did, you know, Poseidon.
Right.
Those people should never be seeing each other again after that.
You know what I mean?
You don't want to fucking talk to those people.
I didn't want to see the people.
The last time I had jury duty, this fucking weaner that was in the group, like after the case was over and whatever, this dude was like, so yeah, maybe it would be fun if, like, we got together.
What the fuck?
Like a month from now and I was like, and I just was like, hey man, no offense.
I'm never going to see you again in my life.
Went walked away.
Was that because you guys said that guy to death and he wanted to, like, walk in there?
I'm pretty sure we bankrupted that dentist
Yeah, good, good, good, good.
Yeah, he ain't going to be harming any young girls anymore.
But yes, dog pisses fire.
I like Friday coming up here, he goes,
You shouldn't have buried me. I'm not dead.
Pretty good, pretty good line right there.
That dog piss is too hot.
I like my dog piss room temperature
when it wakes me up from my eternal slumber.
Finally, I could work with somebody.
Robert England, huge fan, Bruno the Dog.
Thank you so much.
much coming. Listen, this was the only
Freddy versus Jason I care about,
right here. But
yes, but Kincaid still has
his like dream warrior powers, which
I believe make him super strong. Yeah, he drops
a car on Freddy. Take that
motherfucker! It's fucking great
screaming at this dude,
but it's all for nothing.
Involnerable to cars.
It's one of his another power of
Freddy's, yeah. Pretty all around
powerful dude. Later we see him get hit with a
car. It's very cool. The
the effect shot later on
where the car crumbles around nothing.
We should say the effect of him coming back
is really cool.
All the reconstitution thing.
A lot of the special effects in this are very, very good.
Is that that screaming mad George gentleman
was involved in this?
I believe he is, yes.
Which I didn't see that movie
that everybody watched that years ago.
The screaming mad George movie
that he made it a couple of years ago.
Are you talking about the Philip Tippett?
Yeah, you're thinking of a different dude.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Phil Tippett did the stop motion movie
that was on show.
Oh, God.
Mad God, God.
That's Phil Tippett.
Well, Matt in his name, Matt in the time.
That movie is a real one.
Okay, got it.
It's a fucking Halloween screen saver you can put on.
I didn't care for that movie.
But this is really great.
Yes, all of the stop motion of like the muscles growing back on.
I love the eye sockets filling with his eyeballs again.
It's all very, very cool.
Well, that's, I mean, to what, there's no parameters to his powers.
So like, I'm supposed to get excited that King Kate is dropping a car and I'm like, well, I don't think that's going to do anything.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, like, there's all these fighting things.
I'm like, well, I don't, there's no wish of what actually hurts it.
That would be so cool if you just, that, like, oh, you drop the car on them.
And now the kids go to therapy.
This is a suburban teen drama.
All the EWalks come up.
You know, it's coming.
Yep, yep.
Yeah, and then it's like a coming of age thing.
And it's very sweet and nice.
And maybe her and Rick, like, I don't know, like, recommit to each other.
They do martial arts together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The karate kid it up.
I gotta say though
the planet junkyard shot
is pretty cool
but it's a bad cut right here
because it just cuts to
Kincaid is back on the ground
and Freddy is not crushed by the car
and he's stabbing him
like he's just straight up stabbing him
when we cut already and I'm like
it's a little too jumpy for my taste
Kincaid in the real world
this was kind of weird because generally like your wounds
in the nightmare mimic what happens to
in the outside he should be bleeding out right
here he's wearing a white tank top
no blood at all
when I tell you right here Andrew Jupin not
being able to deal with this this fucking poor dog
knows that his owner's in trouble
and just is like they do that one little
wine right is this guy
they're having the actor basically act like he's having a heart
attack and I'm like oh that dog's
so lonely
the dog's not whining and he's trying not to laugh
oh no Jason you can eat him
if you want to eat him you go right ahead and eat him
Yeah, because, like, were these kids also orphans, by the way?
Like, was that part of it at any point?
No, his mom finds, or Joey's mom finds him.
Joey's mom, yeah, but I thought so, like, does Kincaid have parents in the last movie?
I can't tell you that.
Yeah, I don't know.
I should have re-watched.
Freddy should kill the dog, and then the dog soul is in his chest as well, a little dog face.
Or maybe the Freddy becomes the dog is like a wishbone scenario.
Oh, now you've got a dog in a hat.
Yes, a better movie.
Super mysteries, paranormal mysteries even.
flirting with a maid Marion
and whatever else it got up.
Yeah, yeah, Wishbone flirted with human women
on that show. Oh, shit, right? Oh, yeah.
That's fucking crazy. Because it was like he was the only
dog and he interacted with people.
Every other person was a, every other character
was a human being on that show. Right,
but he was such a dog. He was hounding for those ladies.
Speaking of hounding, by the way,
Joey, this character, once again, duped by
pussy in this movie. He gets fooled
by the ladies in the last movie because he's such
a horny little kid and here it is.
he's hanging out in his
room. Just watching MTV? It was
1988. What else you're going to do? That's what you did. You fucking
Huff-Gloo. You watch MTV. You jerked off.
I guess you hung out...
Oh, tossed off. Pardon. I guess
you hung out in a waterbed
that your parents bought for you? This is
kids shouldn't be having water beds.
Yeah, they're gross.
Yeah, they're getting addicted so quick.
It just happens immediately.
They're gross, but like, its primary
function is fucking. Sleeping is
secondary with a water bed. You ever lay in one?
Yes.
It's very, I don't care for it.
I couldn't imagine falling asleep on it.
It's like sleeping on the smallest boat you've ever been.
Yeah, my cousin had one when I was a kid.
Just no thanks.
You just feel like you're waking up with back problems no matter what.
Exactly.
I need the firmest, firmest of mattresses.
Firm it up, dude.
I need firm.
Firmest.
I need firm.
Firm with like no bars across the middle of it, like a fucking fold-out mattress or something.
Good old-fashioned Amish fad.
I just want to sleep on a pile of hay, Chris.
I really matted down pile of hay.
He's got a poster of some sexy lady.
Ooh.
And the sexy lady comes, is in the waterbed, which is kind of cool.
Visual.
A little cool visual.
Yeah, I like that.
Although I don't know if waterbed mattresses were like see-through.
I don't think that was the case.
But this is a cool special effect nonetheless.
It is also nice in the grand tradition of killing people with beds in this franchise.
Yeah, because it's like, oh, the sexy ladies there.
And, oh, Joe, you know Joey gets horny real easily from that last movie.
And, like, there she is, and then, uh-oh, it's Freddy, pulls him in.
I think Freddie is also pissed off.
It's a water pad.
This is disgusting.
It's fucking warm and disgusting.
I'm stabbing your ass now.
I'm going to have to take a shower after this.
You know how much bacteria is in here?
It takes forever for this sweater to dry.
Oh.
No, I'm not going to put it in a dryer.
Have you seen how tattered it is?
It'll be torn to shreds.
God, it smells like clear piss.
It's like piss from someone who just drinks water.
I have to lay it out on some tethered.
How's to dry.
Oh, my God.
I hope your fucking mother finds you.
Jesus Christ.
You know what, Joey?
I'm going to kill you.
Then I'm going to kill this water bed.
And then I'm going to kill your mother for buying you the water bed in the first place.
You know what, Joey?
Wait a minute.
I know you're dying from my stab wound.
Call out to one of your friends, why don't you?
You got any friends that you were like, oh, I wish they were here.
Could you come?
Come up.
Just get somebody over here.
So, you know, if he calls him, I don't even know, Alan Thick.
Now, Freddie can kill Alan.
Yeah.
Oh, well, Freddy Kruger, I heard an awful lot about you back of the day, my friend.
You're still killing kids, or what are you doing, baby?
You should be on television.
I'm here to warn you, it's about your kids.
What?
We're both doing cocaine.
Is that all right?
He grows up to be an asshole or something.
He steals songs and is bad with women.
Oh, my God, he's in the masked singer.
Kill me down.
Kill me down.
I don't want to wait around for the heart attack.
Strike me dead, Kruger.
But so they're both dead and the news gets to Kristen, which is, well, no, just the
Freddy's got some decent one-liners in this movie, and this is one of them, he goes,
How's this for a wet dream?
Yes.
Pretty cool.
It's a good one.
Especially Joey, no stranger to come in in his pants in the middle of the night.
Joey, nocturnal emissions, Franklin.
Yep, that's what we always called him.
Say that at the funeral.
he always wanted to shoot in his sleep
he always ruined his pants
every day he would just say nope my pants don't work
no more I gotta go home and get new pants
because I came in him I love my wet dream son
but yeah this is all the same nights
and then we get to the final dream warrior
left standing Kristen's house and she is
doing the traditional smoking cigarettes
she's got a big old tab soda
watching bad TV in the middle of the night
trying not to go to bed
Well, there's, we, we, during the day, we kind of have more school stuff, and then we go to, uh, basically the diner, which is the Crave Inn, by the way.
Oh, absolutely.
And this is when, like, Dan is there.
And, like, we realize, like, A, Alice now has more character where she's, like, a waitress and she doesn't want to be last, her nightmare.
Uh, uh, is being a waitress for the rest of her life.
Right, right, right.
Uh, but yeah, we've, we've had this, we've had the characterization already that
her and Rick have the dead mom.
Yes. At this point, that's already happened.
They talk about her or whatever trying to teach.
Oh, this is a really pathetic.
He's like, oh, I'll teach you like how to do karate.
We're like kind of kicking for a man.
And I'm like, please just cut to the next.
Yes.
This isn't going to come in any way.
It was very big.
Very big about that.
No, I know. Oh, I know.
Did you know that?
I knew it was huge.
Yeah. Part of this movie was filmed inside a dojo.
I bet you didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
I just made it up.
I believe it because it was so big.
I hope that Rick knows he can't wear that headband to school because that's really going to get you beat up.
And Kristen at this point has also already had a freak out in school.
Yes.
One of her many school freakouts, definitely tops Nancy Thompson in the school freakout department.
I'm going to tell you this.
If you are in this situation and you are trying to keep your stuff, you want to keep up, you want to stay up a little late because you're worried about Freddie.
You cannot trust your parents.
No.
They are on, they are always going to be on the side of sleep.
and you've got to avoid this at all caught this you have to move out you have to go find a motel eight
well because they wind up going to the freddie house and uh rick is like gets three pages of dialogue
well you know you know about freddie crook don't you dan and he goes to the whole damn thing
so terrible and you'd figure like you'd get that over on the car ride because like they go there
because uh they get word at school that joey and concate are dead there's a quick shot where joey's
mom finds him inside the mattress, which is wild.
Which she also now knows that he died through sexual misadventure.
And she's going to definitely like, you wish it was fucking Freddie Krueger with the way this
kid's going.
She's got to like cut him out of that dude and like put him in a bathtub with like a bunch of
fucking Thailand-allin all capsules everywhere.
Because he had a boner when he was done.
Do you think David Carrity and ran afoul of Freddie Krueger?
Is that how that happened in Thailand?
Yes.
Collaborators.
It sounds more like.
Here's my good friend.
Fred Kruger.
He always gives me the wildest dreams.
Tie it off, Fred. Let's go.
If you ever need pointers, talk to Fred.
Oh, fuck. I was in the bathroom.
David, wake up!
What did you take, David? What did you take?
Not such that tour I did with NXS.
Have I gone through something so bad?
It would be so cool if you was your friend, right?
He shows up in your dream. You toss off together.
Why do all my closest friends die hanging themselves on
jerking off. It's a curse.
It's not worth it, ladies
and gentlemen. It's just not.
All right, I'm going to kill the kids
of the guy who owns the belt
factory that keeps killing my
friends. No, what's that? Should we say a legend
or did that? Or we confirmed on
that? Was his... Who, Michael Hutchins?
Well, not Hutchins. David Carrey.
Was his weenio?
Oh, I don't know.
Was his wean? Could be an urban legend. I don't know.
What that his weiner was out?
I don't know. This sounds like an investigation.
for you era
phones ringing
dude
this could be a
five part
investigation
coming in the next
few episodes
a penis
investigation
with Eric
says you
but I do
I need a
cap that looks
like a penis
oh there
a little cap
like a
Sherlock Holmes
hat that's like
textured
and leathery
you'll find
it
leather
with some texture
I do like the
whole
one leather
Sherlock Holmes hat
please
no but it
has to have a
pee hole
in there
no no
pinker
and you spoke of pipe but the pipe is like a cock oh yes yeah yeah yeah I'm on a couple of those
yeah I like hold the balls or something and then like can I clear it through the balls that's how
you click the actions down on the point you put your thumb over one of the balls yeah my pipe
is clean clean my pipe oh my god okay what other penis stuff let's let's let's you think of
some we'll continue talking about the movie I was just trying to defend the legacy of David
care of you protect us from legal action from his estate and the estate of his penis by saying
that he was friends with a child murderer was fictitious yes but also saying i don't know if
that actually oh nobody knows but hutchinson huh that fucking hog was out i have no idea no that was just
a straight suey i have no it i forget it no because autoerotic is fixation i learned about it because
of the michael hudgeon's it did it was a real like people do that it was that okay but i don't know
Also, this would have to be
a separate penis investigation for you about
Michael Hudson. I'm telling you, five-part series. Next
week, we'll have an update.
Bring on Kristen's mother to this woman
Elaine, who was in the last movie.
She sucks this lady.
Is that the same actress? Yeah, it is. Okay.
Suck the last movie, sucked in this one.
Pretty great character of like the nasty mom.
The nasty mom, you know, just like
Alice's father and
fucking Mrs. Thompson,
two movies, three movies back
at this point. Just like all
these Elm Street parents. She's a boozehound.
She's a crippling boozehound.
I love the line that, because basically, like,
she drags her away from the Kruger house.
Like, we're going back. Blah, blah, blah.
Oh, right. She does a pullover. Get away from that
fucking house. Yes, that's right.
You're going to have dinner with me.
Dinner, uh-oh, has been drugged. She realizes
that she's been drugged. She's screaming.
And you and your fucking tennis pals
burn this guy. And it's killed
all of us. You've killed all of us.
It's pretty awesome. Tennis pals, I love.
That's a version of this story.
Hey, Muffy, do you want to go burn that child, molester?
You know, he's gone off on a technicality deal.
Yeah, I am his lawyer, but I don't agree with what he did.
You know, we burn people every Friday night, why not him?
Popper, Popper, Popper, let's go.
I want to have my asshole nice and loose when we burn that pedophile to death.
Yeah, we'll go to the club.
We'll pick up a bear cub on the way.
They'll burn a pedophile, then take a flight later.
Of course you've got to get it back.
Who's going to handle the matches?
You wouldn't believe what I found.
A whale was beached.
Mothy, I decapitated another whale.
Let's take a look at it before we go and burn that pedophile.
Now, you all put on your rain jackets while I put this whale head on our car and start driving.
Is it being rich, awesome?
It makes you the best kind of person.
You don't get some whale blood in your mouth.
I'm sorry, Kik.
Don't worry about the smell.
kids. Soon enough, the town's
going to be filled with the smell of burning flesh from that
child fucker we're going to kill. You know, I'm sure
whale blood is a delicacy in some culture.
You should feel lucky, kick.
See, kick, you're better than everyone.
You don't see them with whale blood, do you?
Now, who wants to make up a sorry about a dead
bearcum?
All right, step one, we burn the child
molasses. Step two, the bear cup.
Step three, no more Jews in the club.
Step four, steakhouse dinner. Step five,
40 minutes later, get on a plane.
Oh, man.
It's just...
Hi, Freddy.
Yeah, totally.
I think they fucking swap vocal cords.
But so she passes out, and then she's not...
As she's going to sleep, she's like, you know what?
I can control my dreams.
I think that's what Alice says to her.
Like, she's like, you know, I can control my dreams.
If I think about it hard enough.
Yes, I imagine I'm in a good place.
Yes.
whatever it is. Think of someplace nice. Think of someplace nice. It's the beach, which is lovely.
Not too bad. Yeah, someplace fun. That's good. The beach can be fun. The beach can also get
oil spills on it and, you know, other such things. Things like that. Or you could deal with
Freddie and Orca, the killer whale. She wakes up in a fucking Corona commercial dude.
Like, she's sitting on the beach with Eli Manning and Snoop Dog. It's so fucking cool. I like the
Freddy with the, as the shark club. It's pretty cool. Yeah. Because it looks, you know, it kind of looks
like is the claw from creature
from the blackling moon. Like it looks like
an amphibian kind of
reptilian possible.
Again, this is,
this one works really well because
it's Rennie Harlan's thing,
which is everything is really bright and clear,
which works really well in a beach setting.
And you've never really seen Freddie Krueger
during the day. It's like, oh wow, I'm really seeing
Freddie Krueger. It's cool. And kind of for the first time. He put
sunglasses on. Yes. This is the famous
gaffe, of course. Yes. Absolutely.
It's like the Zodiac killer when he kills that couple.
You know, you don't think something like that happens in the daylight, but then it happens.
It's so cool seeing Zody.
Zodi just fully lit, you know?
Yeah, and the whole black outfit.
I'm fucking due.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah.
I feel it.
I feel it.
There's a rewatch coming.
It's been a while since you killed.
You are due.
Freddie, get out of the water.
Freddie.
We're almost done cooking the dog.
Come on.
Come on, Freddy.
Eat up.
We got to get a go on it.
This guy is weird.
Oh, no.
that's Jason.
Let's get Gage dog.
I basted it.
I based it at all.
You sick fuck,
you killed my co-worker.
There's a terriaki here on the leg.
Yeah,
he puts the sunglasses on,
which is great.
And he just,
like,
she is stuck in quicksand,
and he just steps on this girl's head
and pushes her.
And that should be the end of it.
Like,
that should be the kill,
but it's a character
from the previous movie.
You got to give her a little larger
of a send-off.
She winds up in the boiler room.
And this is what he's like,
call someone. If you don't call
someone, we don't really have a movie, so
you'd better call to someone. Would you
like to use your lifeline?
Just imagine, you know, like,
you want this thing to continue, don't you?
You can't have a 32-minute movie. So you're going to
phone a friend, right? 50-50? How does that help?
Okay, here's the thing. You call someone in, and I'll take care of your
mother, too. That's a deal.
Done deal. Okay, I'll bring someone in
fresh meat bait for you.
and you kill my mother
and I'm cool. I'm cool physically
and you stuff. All right. Actually, that's
kind of great. That's an idea.
Now that's a movie. Yes.
She's into it
and she's helping him or maybe it's like he's
blackmailing her and it's like I won't kill
you and I'll leave your friends alone. If you start
getting other kids and she's just like
going to chess club meeting. She drops by
the drummer department. You know like getting
all these fresh victims for it because she's being
blackmailed by a ghoul. I like
it. I mean like or like
maybe it's time for the parents to finally
fucking get it. Let's own up to it.
That would be great. Yep. Absolutely.
But no, she goes into a gasoline lake.
Yeah. It's happening in a furnace.
It's less about the vengeance.
This clearly tells you everything you didn't know about
Freddie Kruger. He cries a big
game about, oh, I was burned alive, and I was
acquitted, blah, blah, blah.
It's less about the vengeance
than it is in the young flesh.
Yeah, that's true, because he loved kids.
He was just a, he was great with kids.
He was. He had a way with
they said, they just said
killer. That could, that's
wholesome compared to the alternatives.
Freddie, you ain't going to eat these dead kids?
There's just so much meat
here. We could just use all this.
Come on. Get it in my back car. We'll go to Central
Park. We'll barbecue it up.
Also, because it's
1988, we're
throwing out pop culture
lines from commercials and shit.
Oh. Because yes, he's, he's
encouraging her to bring other
kids into the dream. But he
asks her to reach out and touch someone
which if you're as old as we are.
That was the AT&T slogan
for many a years. AT&T
reach out and touch someone. And Alice's like
oh thanks. Why don't you leave me the fuck out of it
dude? How about that? Could you please not
do not summon Dennis Miller?
Whatever you do, just don't do that.
Oh, Freddy, you got to call 10, 10,
2.20, babe.
Oh, we can eat him too.
We're just to fry him up.
Mmm, tastes like post-9-11 Islamophobia.
Now, that hair tastes good with the grease.
With Alice in this Lake of Fire, it's like Caesar crossing the Rubicon, babe.
You know what, do it.
So he can't kill the parents, right?
Because they're too high every night and they don't dream.
Oh, hey.
Perfect.
They're taking the Andrew Jubid Express to Wonderland.
Dude, that's what's going on.
The gin cocktails and the biggest blip on Earth.
Oh, I think you're having a threesome with Tom Collins.
You guys just programmed by night.
We're going to see those dreams go away.
There you go, dude.
Yeah, so she brings in Alice.
She does a cool Hadoogan, which gives her the,
she's like, you know, I don't need these dream powers.
They're about to be murdered and go to hell.
Why don't you take them?
And this is where I was like power transference,
just because you deemed it.
It's such a sloppy beginning for what becomes, again,
it becomes very prototypical after here.
Once it gets leveled out.
a little bit. You're like, oh, it's a movie.
Yes, exactly. But it is just like
tripping on its own dick with all of these
dream power rule setups or
not setups. It's either a direct sequel to
the third one or it is not. That is, that's
all, that's the question and you have to answer
that. And why did you hate Kincaid
and Joey so much? And
that the woman who replaced Kristen there
whatever night, Tina Knight, what's her name?
Tuesday night. Tuesday night. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't believe I forgot that. But
she's dead. Oh, Freddie
Burns are here. She gets thrown.
into the boiler which as Chris
pointed out appears to be filled with gasoline
which is a weird place to put gasoline
just a whole lake of it
in there I don't know what that was about
while she's in there she gives her power
to Alice right shoots out
you're gonna need this I'm dying
now I do love when Alice wakes up
something that happens all
the time every time
a character dies at this point forward it's
very weird we cut to Alice in her bedroom
taking the fucking photograph
off the mirror like it's some sort of reality show but i do like this first one she takes it off
and it's a picture of christin with freddie and they're like arm and arm and it just says greetings
from hell and then it's then it goes on fire which is a nice touch it's pretty great yeah and i mean
so my question with freddie again now with the now that everything's out the window with the
whole vengeance thing it's only her friends like what if i'm in class with her knowing about
talk to her like can you get me then like what's what what are what are what are the rules here frederick
I guess if she knows your name.
Oh, that'd be trouble.
But also, I feel like you've got to know.
It seems to only work when they're also sleeping.
Yes.
Right?
Yeah, she goes to sleep first and brings people into the dream, I guess.
But they have to be sleeping also, yes.
But everybody seems to be on the verge of sleeping in this time.
Well, because they're in nightmare right on the street for the dream warrior.
To protect ourselves, we've got to sleep and shifts.
I'll take first watch.
Fair enough.
All right.
Yeah.
And then we just do.
If you start bleeding from your chest,
to wake you up okay yes please
it looks like a dog's biting him
but so Rick
and Alice is like holy fuck
like Kristen's in trouble we got to go to her house
they run in and I got to tell you boy
this mom's face is red after
this huh because this girl has been
like you have sentenced me to fucking
death you piece of shit whatever
they open this door this girl is just on
fire crispy critter
in her bed LOL more hot
bed action you imagine like
You're going to write it off and you're brain like, oh, that's, she's smoking in bed.
She was doing.
She's hot in the sheets.
My mom knew a fella who was smoking in bed, lit himself right up.
Can't do it.
Yeah, you die?
Oh, yeah.
Crispy critter, dude, that guy.
Oh, yeah.
How do you not wake up?
I don't know.
But then at a certain point, the monoxide gets you, now you're not going anywhere.
Right, yeah, you're passed out.
The silent killer.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she's dead.
And then we have very quick.
There's a couple of funerals in this movie, so I guess they don't want to waste time on all of them.
This one's very quick, but you see she is being buried, and Kincaid has also been buried right in front of Heather Langenkamp and John Sacks' characters.
That's weird.
No, no, we have all the victims in one spot.
I don't care what your family want.
It's the Kruger plot.
If you get killed by Kruger, dude, there's a special part of the cemetery for you.
And then a bunch of little graves for those little kids he killed before the events of the first one.
Listen, Nancy, I bought them all.
it's cheap. If we go to the Kruger plot, it's expensive anywhere else.
Look, I got all for all your friends that you're helping, all right.
We got Kristen's got a, Kristen's got a plot, Kincade's got a plot, even Joey's got a plot.
Well, technically speaking, he does own them now.
He owns all of these children. He has their soul. He has them on his breastplate.
Don't ask yourself this. Don't you want to be buried next to Johnny Depp?
Who doesn't want to be buried next to Johnny Depp?
Suddenly people are visiting your grave.
Someone accidentally put some scissorhands on your grave.
And now you fight Freddy Gruger.
They bring you, they bring a bunch of sunfowls for him.
Oop, one falls up onto your grave.
Now you're special.
Don't you want to be special in the afterlife, baby?
But yeah, so like then it's this,
the nerd girl is the first one to get it, right?
Sheila, yeah, so we go to school here
with Sheila and she gives
that bug device to
That bug device
Which comes back later
It does nothing
Sorry it shoots force lightning
It shoots force lightning
But why and how
It's supposed to she's like oh here's a sonic thing
That'll keep the bugs away for you
You know one one blast of this
And they won't be anywhere near your house
I don't believe you
yeah you built this
overnight huh
unless you're like
some weird power nerd
but I don't see that happening
are you MacGiver
she keeps talking about
like oh I had to be up on light
studying this not the other thing
if you're a power nerd
you don't have to study
because you're a power nerd
exactly
you've got it all
you do have it all
but you know learning
learning is fun with Freddie
that's true
that's actually true
this is we also see around here
is Alice realizing
well the movie
doesn't let you know exactly
what's going on right away, but it amounts to
nothing. She, well, yeah,
because she starts smoking and then she's like, wait a
second, I don't smoke. That's the funniest.
Kristen smoked and this notion
of with each kid that
dies, Alice gets
their dream warrior power
and thus takes
on characteristics of these people.
So she has Kristen's
nicotine addiction? Not the best
delivery from our gal
here. Wait a second.
I don't smoke.
Dude, it's bad.
Like, she is Rachel Lee Cook doing a PSA.
It's like, you might as well be looking right at the camera when that's happening.
But, yeah, it's like, oh, she, this is, the other thing is she uses an expression that Kristen has also used right here to Sheila.
She says to Sheila, oh, looks like we have matching luggage this morning, meaning they, they both have bags under their eyes.
And it's a, she's like, oh, you thank God, someone just like me.
at the dream, right? You had the dream. And she's like, I was
just them studying. What are you talking
about? Here's a bug device.
I'm a nerd.
It's so tis, poor girl.
It's so bad.
This is probably one of the worst deaths here.
Just getting sucked into nothing.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're making out.
Face. Yeah, let's suck face.
Well, speaking of Beetlejuice, it's reminding me of
Beetlejuice, beetle juice. Oh, yeah. A lot of people
getting sucked in that, too.
It turned into little flesh bags.
Like the end of hot shots.
there.
Yes.
Lloyd Bridges is just talking to that dude and he's getting...
The transfusion and he takes all of his blood so the guy deflates.
It's pretty great.
Excellent films.
By the way, both hot shots, rewatched them recently.
Ooh, both of you did a back-to-back.
Oh, yes, I did.
Very good.
But, yeah, she's not...
Alice nods off, which means...
Sheila nods off and this is learning as fun with Freddy and, yeah, he wakes up.
Want to suck face.
And then after it's done, he throws...
this human-shaped
balloon on the floor and goes,
you flunked.
Do we get a bitch in here?
The bitch comes a little later.
I don't think he calls this nerd girl a bitch.
I think it's Deb that gets,
because Deb really gets it.
They really fucking put it all on her,
I will say.
Now, the way that this
sort of appears in the real world
what's happening here is so Freddie has sucked
all the air out of her one.
She's having a massive asthma attack.
This teacher,
who just kind of watches a student die in her desk
instead of like running and getting someone.
They're all just crowded.
It's basically the frame of say the line bar,
but this girl is dying.
Now children, take some pictures.
We want to document this moment for everybody.
We want to have something for rotten.com in 20 years.
For the yearbook?
The teacher's more like,
this history test is going to take itself, ladies and gentlemen.
It's 20% of your grade.
Yeah, but Sheila's dead.
We were all going to copy.
20%.
Now, was this the Dream Masterclass?
No, that's before.
Which we should talk about.
Yeah, there's, for a hot minute during, there's the Bob Shea moment.
Later in the movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, don't worry.
We haven't passed by Bob Shea talking about philosophy yet this movie.
Cannot wait.
Your fucking characters can't go to sleep and your fucking audience is getting put to sleep with this performance, sir.
I'm sorry to break the news for you there.
Flop around on the floor.
you want the history text has to be done by the time you leave today um but yeah so this is now we got
it's alice rick dan and debby are the only four left here we get to alice is working late at the
craven and then this is where dan shows and this is embarrassing because it's like dan comes in
and she's like oh fuck it's jock dan and he's like oh you're you're working you know you're
working late or whatever and she's like i'm working late a lot because i'm not i'm trying not to sleep
I've been telling you this, you know, blah, blah, blah.
What did you say?
I think the performance is more like,
I, Dan, I Dan Johnson, big jock.
I don't understand how this kid got cast.
There's a lot of handsome men in Hollywood, aren't there?
Well, it's the fourth nightmare movie, man.
Maybe it was just slim pickings that summer.
The other ones know how to talk, this guy.
Yeah, fair.
But like, so he's, he's like, you know,
working late, blah, blah, they're having like this talk or whatever.
And then this other babe comes
into the diner and it's just like, Dan,
we're gonna miss the movie.
My piece here.
I go now.
Poor Alice just has to be like, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, fine.
Don't sleep.
You die if sleep.
It's true.
But so then he says, is it Dan who makes a suggestion?
Maybe Freddie can't get to the new kids unless there's someone who can bring them to him
or does she say it?
Someone in the scene says that.
I'm like, oh, this is kind of what the movie's about.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Oh, got it.
But yeah, he just has to do like a, uh, guess I'll see you later then.
Good luck with being haunted by that murderous demon.
Bye.
We gotta go see Roger Rabbit.
I'll get involved later.
Talk to you, shoot.
Then we get this quick locker room moment where Dan's kind of talking to this other guy.
I love other guy here.
Dude, and this guy's like all these fucking chuckleheads you're hanging out with,
and this dude gives him the old up against the locker door.
He's like, oh, man, everybody knows those guys are freakazzoids.
Anyway, who cares if these kids are dying in my class?
Right, yeah, yeah.
No sense of like, oh, maybe I'm next.
Nothing like that from this guy.
I mean, it's good.
I mean, I know it's a little, maybe a little taboo to say,
but when they die, I feel like I survived something.
So I kind of like, I'm going to be honest, it's kind of cool.
Each day I wake up
Not Murdered is a victorious day for me
In this school
I saw my notes here
Dan when he goes to the Craven
Says you got any gum
Oh right
He comes in he's like
Excuse me miss do you have any gum
And she turns
That's what it is though right
Because that sets her up
For thinking like this dude's interested
Because that's like a flirtatious
Surprise it's me
You know
Gum doesn't mean gum
But Miss and Roger Rabbit
I love
This is when
Rick is fall asleep on the toilet
so they're very familiar with. And this is
Bob Shea's happening at the same time.
We cut from the locker room where
another franchise staple
asshole gym teacher character
this guy comes out of nowhere and he's like, get the
fuck out of the field, you're fucking losers!
And I was like, whoa, buddy. You could just say gym
teacher. They're all
assholes. I mean that's
that's the thing is... Allegedly.
This is Rick and Dan walking out together.
They get yelled up by the gym teacher after the full of fight.
And like, this, Rick has charisma.
of it, he just goes like, hey man, I guess
if I make it, if I make it
I'll see you at lunch or whatever, you know what I mean?
Like, Dan's like, oh,
what did you do with your face?
I was smiling. Oh, okay.
Oh, faces can do
that. Dan love Rick.
Dan hope Rick okay.
Dan know like me
and gym teacher.
Rick eyebrow move without
face? Now I just
might be an unfrozen
caveman lawyer
but I've got more facial expressions
than this guy
it's brutal but yeah so this is Bob
Shay given this fucking lecture about
Aristotle
and boy oh boy like
vaguely dream master is like oh there's a
master of dreams it starts
like something like that does get thrown in there
but he's also talking about Aristotle
I guess Aristotle came up with the
Aristotle thought your soul
roamed free in dreams
there are two gates one positive
one negative key element dream master guards the positive gate and protects the sleeping host
and yes it's going to be on this point at these are the theories he thought up when he came to
sand demas these were some of the ones he was he was letting out they were a little hot little hot new
ideas so crates too so crates uh but uh yeah this moment it's weird because this movie 1988
10 years before this
there was another very popular
horror movie that had a boring
class lecture where the teacher was
explaining what turns out to be the themes of
the movie because in Halloween it's
like we're talking about
good and evil
they always try to sneak that in though
yeah yeah it just made me think of a better movie
and I got a little frustrated in Dream Language
we always hear of the revenge of Michael
Myers
how it can come about in the positive gate
and the negative gate.
And our Aristotle always said that there was a key master and then a gatekeeper that they would
have to join unions in order for Gozer, the Gozerian, to bridge the gap into this world.
There would be a great pyramid and then, oh, God, I forget the rest of it there.
But can we, can we hurry this thing up?
Something, something burnt dogs.
But yes, Rick is like, hey, I'm going to fall asleep, listen to this dude.
crazy producer of the movie
why don't I go to the bathroom
yeah and yeah sleeping on the toilet
I gotta say a couple of times over the years
never do it dude never
it's a big mistake I've gone in not to go to
the bathroom at all but just like there's been
like I would be like at the old office
and I had a fucking headache
I would go down to like the
like lesser used bathroom
single single
toilet situation lock that door sit with the lights off
just kind of like get everything out
Do you, now, did you sit on it just with your pants on or did you go full ass on this?
No, no, just pants up, just sitting there.
That's good, because if you fall asleep at a toilet, there could be snakes and alligators coming up there.
Yeah, you got to be careful, dude, gators are good shit.
They go right up your bum.
Yeah, the whole gator just right up there because you took them poppers.
They could.
They got a very sharp nose.
Well, that's what you think of every time you use a public restroom, Eric.
Yeah, well, I wish.
The horrors of a public restroom
Far worse.
But the problem is Freddie turns it into like,
oh, here come all these cheerleaders
and laughing at Rick on the toilet.
It should be like he reaches this up,
grabs him from the inside.
Ooh, a good toilet tug.
Exactly.
It's a pretty shitty way to die.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the end of Alien Resurrection,
but with a toilet.
And if like, through it.
Freddy's like struggling to do it.
He's like, looks like we might have a clog.
Exactly.
Some nightmare plunger situation.
Oh, Freddy's face is the plunger.
Train spotting has a good nightmare.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Oh, wait.
I think that actually might happen in a street trash or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
Street trash where the homeless people are melting because of the goo.
I think one gets like sucked into the toilet and like its face is like in the hole for a minute and then it goes flushed down.
That's pretty fun.
That's possible.
Sounds right.
Yeah.
It wouldn't be something that's, you know, that's, you know, that's,
treasurer was above. It's been a while since
I've seen that movie. Wonderful film. Cheerleaders are
laughing at him and they drag him out into
this dojo here.
Man and cue the fucking
Japanese tinged
nightmare on Elm Street score.
You got to do it. This is every
you know, karate kid was so
huge. You got to put Freddy and a ghee here.
I'm sorry. That would be so much fun.
Here's the big question. Here's the big question.
It's my biggest question mark in the entire
movie. Yes, he would say racist
stuff. If he got into
that outfit um was was robert england
not available at all the week they shot this scene
why is he invisible yeah in
i think this whole scene until the very end
well the what they had to make sure they got the scene where he played the nurse
oh yes and he he wanted that before he was like you know what
we'll just use it for that scene and we don't have to worry about this ninja scene at all
But it's insane because he's just like,
true warriors don't need to see their opponent or whatever.
And it's just, you hear him.
Yeah.
There's a whole friggin fight scene between Rick and Freddie,
and it's just this poor kid doing karate moves by himself.
It didn't sound very karate.
It sounded more Jedi when it's just like,
yeah, with the blast shield down, you can't see anything.
That's the point.
He's knocking Freddy around with this.
The fucking car did nothing,
but this kid's fucking fists and feet are doing,
fucking work. Dude, it's karate. I mean, maybe, or maybe he's just getting hit in the face and
quietly laughing, you can't fucking see it. And then, like, the glove comes out. Yes. After he gives
him a little bit of a beating and the kid talks shit to the glove and the glove, no, now I'm
remembering it. He doesn't appear in the scene at all. The glove launches itself like thing from
the Adams family up into his gut and fucking kills him. And then it cuts to Alice waking up
screaming and the fucking windows in her room explode. And I'm like, one, did that?
actually happened, but also, like, yeah,
did Robert England, like, have a cold
that week? Because, because, uh,
why, ran, ran, I could, I could not get
out of bed, dude. I am just,
I mean, I'll tell him that,
but the script, look at this, I'm wearing a geese.
It's fucking embarrassing, saying
weird, racist stuff.
I'm sick. How many sushi jokes
can we put in here, really?
No, I mean, that's,
that's a good point. Maybe, you know, he was
like, I'm not going to put this on.
Yeah. Fine, we'll do voiceover.
You know, it's just so weird that he's that present as the actor playing the character for the scene.
I don't understand it.
Bizarre.
Maybe I should watch the DVD commentary.
You should.
See if Rennie shed some light on it.
Is Rennie doing it?
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, okay.
I mean, I have, like that.
I think it's the dog, Jason.
It's the dog barking in the background for an hour and a half.
I'd love that, actually.
It's like a fucking Joe Panteliano cameo video.
Shut up over there.
Shut up, Jason.
I'm making $300 shut up
Stop yapping
It's by Doug Jason
We're getting the roof of place
He's pissed off about it
Jason
Yeah so that's all weird
But so then like
Do those windows explode
Because you don't have psychic powers
So why are these windows
I'd be pretty pissed off
It's very expensive
How am I gonna pay for this now
You gotta schedule these guys
Like two months out
You gotta put up a tarp
You can't make a hamburger
Worth the damn
and you can't keep these windows together.
Well, the dad kind of comes to Jesus a little bit, right?
He's like, it's just you and me now.
Well, yeah, we do have the funeral for Rick,
and it's a really weird, like, again,
this is her daydreaming, I guess,
because he pops out of the coffin and it's like,
oh, baby, yeah, totally.
He does a big bopper.
He does a big bopper impression.
He was also a guy who famously died,
but really lived.
Or at least projected his voice from beyond the grave.
Is that right?
Yeah, I assume so.
Oh, all right, yeah.
I thought there was, like, recording somewhere.
This is like White Noise 3.
I would love that be unsolved mysteries.
The Big Bopper.
Big Bopper.
Update.
That was just someone's stereo playing really loudly.
I can't believe we did a whole segment on it.
It should be great.
It was like, update.
Mathematically, the Big Bopper definitely has to be dead now.
If he didn't die when we said he did, really it's been about 112 years.
So it doesn't matter.
I don't care what Joe Bob Briggs said.
He's dead. He's definitely dead.
Update Elvis, too.
Has to be. Has to be.
She says here, yada, yada, mind over matter.
And then she's like, that was a thing that Rick used to say.
Oh, good.
What's happening?
Every time she does, she listen to the camera, like, isn't this a story or something?
Isn't this weird camera?
Who's behind this?
that camera.
It's weird.
It's like I'm them, but I'm me.
We did, we miss the Robert England and Drag, or did we not?
We did not.
Oh, it's coming up.
Yeah, that's happening.
Yeah, we get the, hello baby, all that crap.
It's awful.
Oh, this is where she also acquiring a lot of powers from her dead brother.
She just picks up those nun chucks.
Yes.
It's like a quick learn kind of a thing.
And then she's trying to get Debbie in on this, you know, we're going to defend, whatever.
and she's like, oh, I'm afraid,
like, you want me to be afraid of this night stalker?
Yes.
He's not a night stalker.
And I also be, if I'm Debbie,
I'm like, why don't you do me a huge fucking favor
and forget my name?
You know what I mean?
Like, this is all on you.
You keep dragging our good friends.
I barely know you.
I knew you through Sheila.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, Sheila liked you,
and I would talk to you occasionally.
I never really cared for you that much.
And how is Sheila?
She's dead.
Is that right?
And he's not a knight stalker, okay?
this is not Richard Ramirez.
You wish it was.
I thought whenever this scene happens,
I thought that was,
she was making a Nightstocker reference for a second,
but I was like,
no, they're in fucking Ohio,
never mind.
Well,
I mean,
do you think Randy Harlot
knows the difference
to Ohio in California?
Do you think someone
who would definitely
fucking put that dude in place
because he's a nothing director
at this point?
Like that,
that would happen.
But you think Bob Shea's going to let that fly?
I don't think so.
It could be a copycat, right?
Ooh, sure.
Nightstocker, too.
Ohio Bougaloo.
Like the movie.
Copycat.
Oh, previous episode.
105 years ago.
Heard of copycats.
We're out there.
So she goes to the movies
another thing to sort of keep herself up.
I do love this because she walks in
this theater.
One, this gorgeous movie palace
playing Reefer Madness.
That's pretty funny.
Important film.
So weird and so weird that people are attending.
Public domain night
of every Wednesday.
Free as far.
We get a really cool shot of this Pepsi and popcorn being sucked towards the screen.
Well, I thought they're traumatized you.
Because, yeah, well.
Your best friends are being just, this is like, Andrew, watching a dog get killed.
They're like, no, not the popcorn of the soda.
Well, the popcorn, yes, but the Pepsi, it's like, yeah, okay, well, it's not Dr. Pepper.
That's fair.
But I wanted to talk about this at length now, specifically, because I think this represents the perfect size bucket of popcorn,
where it's just the size of like when you go to like a regal now or an AMC and you get a soda it's a gigantic soda that big this is that's the size of this popcorn bucket it's not a giant bucket I can actually hold it in one hand yeah that's the move I love that shitty bag and I know yeah exactly it's not a shitty bag and you know what just charge me a little less and give it to me in the cup well I'm already seeing a problem here Eric you do not have a face on the
the bucket that you can tell everybody
I'm fucking the bucket.
Oh, right.
The bucket flow in me.
I'm fucking the bucket.
Those cups are big enough. You could put a little
like a dune worm
sucky on the top of it. You know?
Dune worms sucky. Yeah. Or you can put
a terror fire mouth
is the new one. No, really?
Oh, yeah. I can't
imagine that movie's getting into enough theaters
where they'd be stocking those things. Now, but I'm
fucking him and he's sucking my dick.
Also, that
The popcorn guy
He's sucking my dick
And I'm fucking up
For Megalopolis
It's Adam Driver
With a bad haircut
You can eat out of it
Just explaining things to you
Francis
Why do we agree to this
Did we agree to this
Francis do we agree to this
Now all you got to do
Is just if you open your mouth
Like pretend
You're doing like a silent lion roar
Okay
And hold it there
They're gonna take a picture of it
And then that mask
Is gonna be your face
For the popcorn bucket fist
thing. I don't know what these kids are doing.
Please, please. I sold my vineyard for this.
Please. Please.
I'm seeing it back on the popcorn kid. Please.
Oh, I'm seeing it in I, Max. Dude, you better believe it.
I'll pay the highest ticket price for this thing.
I'm excited.
Hell yeah. And we're only going to have two months before they bring in the Timothy
Shalameh as Bob Dylan, do you want to fuck it or suck it popcorn box?
It will happen eventually.
You want to fuck it.
That's what you press a little thing on the side and it just says that in a bad Bob Dylan
impression.
Yeah, just another Twitter post.
Now, I'm fucking it.
No, it's sucking my dick.
Well, listen, if you're doing the Bob Dylan one, Timothy Shamelay's a little guy, give
it to me in the cup.
Oh, okay.
You do a little quarter-ray jacket on it?
That's true, because, you know, the ad-up driver, that's the extra large.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a wide guy.
A little jacket around the corners.
I like that.
Yeah, totally.
All of the twink-sized pop-part plays.
A little play guitar in the front.
I'm liking all of this.
But I'm fucking it.
I'm sucking it.
So speaking of sucking, Alice gets sucked into the screen.
This does, in some respects, feel like a commercial for going back to the movies or some sort of like, you know, like Dolby, Premiere X, now you're in the movie or whatever it is.
I'm going to salute it for five years.
That's not funny anymore.
You know what I mean?
I was, dude, the other day, I forget what the, oh, I think it was a trap maybe.
It was, no, something more recently.
I saw something
and there were like two people
in a huge theater that did it
and I was like guys it's over
it's over
just please
you should have gone down there
and given them wedgies
I'm not messing with people
physically no we're film bros now
oh I see
oh got it did someone call us that on Reddit
and repeating it
of course I assume
I mean this is the only times
she goes she wakes up
and she gets stuck to the Craven diner
and it's her
working there as an old lady.
It's the only time Freddie ever gets, like, existential
nightmare, it's like, it's your
worst nightmare. You turned
into your mother.
It's actually kind of sad.
It's actually, it's
emotionally hitting me, too.
Oh, it's just, you're just
stuck in a dead end job like that.
It's just a side of bad
communication, and I've had those issues, too,
my entire life. You just don't
know how to say things sometimes.
A thankless job. It's tips like that.
Then you're drinking like your dad did.
Oh, man.
Oh, Jesus.
If I were you, I'd figure it out.
And then you just want to tell RFK Jr., no, I don't want to do that.
I don't want to eat another dog.
You know what I'm going to do you a favor and kill you.
Freddie comes in.
He orders pizza at this diner, which I would not order pizza.
No, diner pizza.
I mean, what are you doing?
What are you doing, Freddie?
Ohio pizza.
Oh, even worse.
I don't order pizza unless pizza is the star.
Unless, like, you know what I mean?
Like you're in a pizza restaurant.
Exactly.
A restaurant that is, that is predominantly known for pizza.
Like a pizzeria, a pizzeria, you would call it.
You want to sell a fucking calzone on the side, some chicken parm sandwiches, whatever.
The star of the show has to be the pizza pie.
And then, but then you'll get this, sometimes you go to an Italian place.
It's kind of weird where they do both and you're like, well, which one are you known for?
Both what, the calzone?
Well, no, they'll do pasta and they'll do pizza.
and they'll do pizza.
The pasta, well, it depends on how
nice is it. Is the pasta expensive?
If it's not, it's a ruse.
It's to trap you.
Don't get the cheap pasta.
But, like, I'm thinking back, the last, like, sit-down,
nice Italian I had was Johns in the East Village,
major mafia murder spot.
Love it.
And they have really good pasta.
But I believe there is also a pizza option.
And that is not what I'm there for.
Exactly.
And I don't trust it.
Even though it's all fucking off the boat Italians, running the place, whatever.
I don't trust it.
I'll get your pasta.
I'll get your, you know, your nicer dishes and whatever.
You focus on what they're known for.
But there's bad fucking pizza everywhere, first of all.
So this, he orders a kid pizza.
Not a kid's size, but a pizza with kids on.
Kid ball pizza.
Kid ball pizza.
It's basically.
They serve that at Epstein's.
Epstein's Pizzeria.
Oh, God.
Yeah, that's definitely bad pizza.
Yeah, we do have a basement, actually.
And like those liars
We're the real deal
No, like it's a pizza
It's I guess a meatball pizza
It looks like we're putting
Green sauce all over it though
And when he goes
He takes this kid's little head
And the meatball
Which is the brother
Yeah
Rick the brother
And it looks like
You're watching Fred Kruger
Eat Escargo
Yeah
That's not great
It's the grossest part of the
It doesn't look
appetizing. But escargo, very good.
Delicious. Love it. I need it
every day of my life if I could. And I might turn into
a snail if I did that. Just to be clear,
monkey pizza I would eat. Kid pizza,
I would not.
I'm still a hard no on both.
Unless it's brain, because
that would give you powers.
Powers. That's true.
Great line from Freddie here. He eats this
meatball. He goes, I love soul
food. Which I'm glad that it's a joke
about a soul and not a meatball made
out of a black person. Yeah, so he's
He's eaten a Jamaican beef patty or something.
I love soul food.
Because as we know from 2003's Freddy versus Jason, that dude's got problems.
He does.
And it's also like, he's from Ohio.
But then he's sitting down and they're like, we're in this together.
Thanks for bringing me all these delicious souls.
You got to get out there.
You need to make more friends.
This is up to you now.
The whole Elm Street thing that has driven the franchise for three and a half movies is now over.
It's you, Alice.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
This is the scene.
this is where it should happen.
She has just had a glimpse of her miserable-ass life
peddling omelets and fucking cold coffee
for the rest of her days.
And he has to say,
because he's a liar, trickster demon,
I can help you avoid that fate
if you just give me, give me, give me.
Yeah, bringing me all the kids' brains.
And then you'll be popular, you'll get AIDS or whatever.
Exactly, dude.
And then it's like fucking teen wolf, man.
She's just the king of the school.
She's fucking surfing on that car.
She's the captain of the basketball team, you know?
That's an interesting thing to do with this movie.
That's on Wishmaster's block, though.
You got to watch your step there.
He might come at you.
Oh, Frederick Kruger.
Why don't you take two steps back, motherfucker?
No, yeah.
I'll see you at RFK's place next weekend.
Yeah, no, no, I'm coming.
I'm bringing the Coastlaw, and I'm making it full of children's brains.
Me and the Wishmaster, where I'm going to paint her Luger's stagas.
And I made a wish that they finally.
I don't like walking around with 4,900s, you know, and it's kind of a noxious.
No, actually, I know all the demons in the aftermath.
I do not know how to fix that fucking voice.
No idea how to do it, their RFK.
I'm sorry, you have to deal with that.
I wish I could do it for you, brother.
The idea that anyone thought that guy was going to be present.
Ooh, he's a kidding.
I'm not, but you, give me out, monkey, give me out, monkey brain.
It's dog, but you're crazy.
I just don't.
Just because someone's got a name.
It wasn't a dog, okay?
Yes, it had a bone that only dogs have.
Yes, yes, that's true, but it's not a dog.
It's just, it's bonkers.
I mean, you sort of did it already, Steve.
I'm going to just, like, steal it again.
But it's like, bha!
Bow, bow, bow.
No, you can't, dog.
You can't address the nation.
Someone thought that guy could address a nation.
Maybe if you, you know, you're right, a beautiful.
letter. Yeah, that's good. Someone else
read it. My fellow
America. Yeah, here's
my wife, Cheryl, who refuses to
denounce me. I mean, it was a, it was
a joke candidate, just like all of them.
Yeah, so
this is, we're racing to
the Debster's house here.
Right, because Freddie says your shift is over
alluding to some line
Debbie said earlier, so
now. Oh, right, yes.
Debbie is on the hot spot. Yes. And now she's
working out. Yes. And, uh, you
do not want Freddie Krueger to spot you.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is a great, I love these exchanges that he has with these victims.
Sometimes she goes, I don't believe in you.
And he goes, I believe in you.
And starts pushing this fucking weight down on her.
That's nice of him.
Till her arms snap backwards.
Ooh, it's Pierce, Prasland and Dante's peak all over again.
That's kind of enough.
Do you really have to turn her into a bug?
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
This is the real, like, is this two characters mixed together?
because it's like weightlifter girl
is totally fine like oh let's pump
some iron and then bug
scared girl is like now you're a bug
you know doing both
is just sort of insane because
Trisha is that the nerdy girl's name
Sheila Sheila she is the one
who's sort of right when when Debbie
steps on the bug in the parking lot isn't she
like yeah you fucking got it
like it's done if Freddie was like
oh you fucking thought bugs were
done huh or you thought that bug
had another, and then like,
because she's the nerd. Or if she's
like, oh, you shouldn't do that. I mean, they're
bugs, they're sweet. Oh, you like bugs,
do you? What do you be a bug? You fucking
nerd? But no, so like, as
her arms are ripping out,
weird bug, like, arms
are coming out, which is, this is like some crazy
fun special effects. Not scary,
more body-horrey, but fun, you know.
I'll tell you this, it's a page
straight out of our commentary
for this quarter, Silent Night, Deadly
Night 4,
because there's some fucking weirdo shit
going on in that movie with turning into things
and it's very, all those
practical effects with the arms
very much reminded me
of what goes on in that bonkers movie.
Freddie's got a good line with this kill
about the Roach Motel he puts her
in, you can check in, but you can't check
out and he squishes it. Yes.
Bug juice. Pretty cool. I do like this.
I like the inside of the Roach
motel, her peal juice. She's like
stuck on the sticky glue trap
you know. Her face rips off and then she's
got a bug face.
That's so...
But now when she finally becomes a bug, does she, like,
ever, like, right before she gets squish,
maybe, like, come to terms with it?
You know, like, this isn't so bad.
Oh, you need more than 15 seconds for that, though, dude.
She just started dreaming as a bug of flies and shit,
and now he's got to go into the bug worlds to kill.
Oh, shit.
I do also imagine you would still be an agony from your face just really.
Oh, right, right, right.
Even if you were a bug, you'd still be feeling the after effect.
Yeah, Gregor Stampso woke up that way.
That's easy.
It's the rip-off
It's the real problem
Yeah, if you sleep through the rip-off
Sure, like he did, it's fine
Oh man, do you think that that's what happens
In that story is Freddie Krueger got him
And he's like, oh, you hate bugs
Huh, Gregor Samsa, here it comes
Now you're going to be a bird to your family
Which is kind of what the whole story's about
Based upon a novel by Franz Kafka
Yes, exactly.
Also around here,
this kind of seems like a bit
They left over from Wes's original idea
for this movie, which was
bending time through
dreams, because this just
starts, I'm like, this is
dumb as dick, and you didn't set
this up at all. She's like, oh,
Freddie has us in a time loop
right here, because this is when it's like,
Dan shows up at the diner, and she's like, we got
to go, I'm driving, we got to get to
Debbie's house, and then when they get
there, she runs across the street and they cut,
and I forgot that this, it's been a while since I've seen this,
I forgot that this happened in the movie, and I was like,
did I like AppleStream?
a fuck up for a second? I like
the scene. It's a very dream logicy thing
which this movie doesn't do a lot of. I mean, and Wes
is very obviously interested in that.
That first movie is a lot of more like actual
stuff that happens in dreams as opposed to being turned
into a bug. And it's
cool, but to your point, like
it needs to be bigger, it needs to
sort of make sense. It just sort of happens
for a minute and then we don't talk about it.
Well, because also they're not
sleeping right here. No, she's
I think she's asleep, right?
Someone's got to be asleep. I think
they fall asleep behind the wheel of the car
or something? Because that's when
the crash happens? Right. Because this crash
eventually, it's a real crash.
They crash into Freddie.
I guess they're like, oh, let's ram him or whatever.
And the car bends around nothing,
which is a cool effect. It's totally cool. And then they wake
up and they've crashed into a tree.
Yes. And Dan is seriously
But so someone was
driving asleep at the, they were both
asleep in a car. Don't think about it.
I know, but I'm just saying,
kind of dumb. This is what happened to David Caradine.
Don't go down there around.
And just like that.
He was brought to surgery and was like, no, don't put me.
I just want to feel, put a stick in my mouth.
Yes.
I'll bite down on it and you just do what you're going to do.
Use a scalpel, just cut right through my flesh.
I'll be awake.
Oh, wait, no, you're giving me the gas.
Just give me a local.
And this is what's confusing about it.
So when they wrap the car around the non-tree, then there's ambulance comes.
But there's like purple and yellow neon light all of it.
It looks very unnatural.
And I was like, so now this part's a dream?
But then he falls asleep on the operating table.
And that's the, so I mean, I guess that's what the movie's trying to do.
It's just, ooh, you never know where Freddy's going to show up.
But it's not that kind of a movie.
And it's a little too late for it.
And I feel like all of this is just an accident.
It's just poorly made, honestly.
I don't think the movie's smart enough to be doing these Christopher Nolan-esque time-bending, you know, story threads intersecting and whatnot.
To be clear, I originally wanted to.
to be about a tough-talking detective
and his koala partner.
That was my original idea,
and they just took it in this whole new direction.
Well, apparently he, Reddy Harlan said,
one of the things to do was pitching,
he's like, it's not so much about the kids anymore,
it's about Freddie.
Freddy is like the James Bond of this franchise,
which I kind of, I would just, you know.
What is that even mean?
I don't know.
He's fucking a lot.
Drinking.
And this is the diehard of Nightmare and Amstreet.
Please give me money.
Please, I beg of you for more money.
You mentioned Bond.
You mentioned Nolan, like, like, inception.
Like, do some, like, Freddie and some type of political dream intrigue or something.
Sure.
I could see maybe, but that's not what any of these movies are.
No, no, no, no, no.
But, yeah, so he's rushed to the house.
The other thing that I thought was weird about this was, like, why?
I mean, like, they, they, someone calls an ambulance.
They get to the hospital.
Like, her dad is there.
How did that happen?
You know, I guess...
Honey, where's my food?
He's been walking off and down.
I just check in the hospitals because, I mean, you better be dead
because it's 8.45 and I ain't got those dinners.
But yeah, so it's basically they're going to put him under
because he's got internal bleeding or something they've got to look at.
And he's fighting the gas, yada, yada, yada.
She runs away to do some quick training.
We've got like a montage of here.
She's like looking at all...
Now it's all the photographs.
And I've absorbed all of their...
And there's also like an empowerment moment because earlier in the movie, you know, her brother's, you know, with all those photos in the mirror, you can't really see yourself, you know, I don't want to see myself. And now she's taking them off, you see. And now she wants to see yourself because she's powerful. And she's stolen all of the will from her friends, which makes her better. I think all of that could be way more powerful and effective. If she wasn't getting
getting dressed or prepared or whatever.
While they're playing what seems like
an early draft of the Melrose Place
theme song, there's just a
wailing TV guitar
going on. It's not great.
It's really not. Not appropriate.
But yeah, fucking A, she's ready to fight Freddy
or whatever. This is where we get
Surgeon Kruger right here.
He's got the mask on.
Does he have a line here? Oh, yeah.
Kruger? Well, it ain't Dr.
Seuss.
Yes, that's.
Which I.
was she a medical doctor
he's already been a nurse
right that happened earlier
yes that happened
Robert England in drag
she
has to go to the nurse's office
at one point
it's one of her like I'm screaming
in a dream
Robert England in drag
so yeah
Surgeon Kruger or whatever
she sees what's going on
and just like
jumps through this mirror
into the dream world
She does a new Kang flying kick right here.
Hey, whatever.
And this is what it's like, all of these movies are vaguely Catholics
who are to Catholic church for some reason.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forgot they all sort of kind of dabble.
Kind of sort of, you know, that's this holy,
I think Holy Water is what gets him in the last movie.
Well, they ignore him in, oh, in the third movie.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, because that's what John Staghanx has got to put Holy Water on this skelling.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Take that, Aganot.
but here she is facing off
Freddie. Welcome to Wonderland
Alice. Oh Alice. I get it now.
You've got their power. I've
got their souls. Pretty good.
And here's my chest of soul.
The chest of souls is fun.
Her connecting Sheila's
ultrasonic, whatever the fuck
right here blows a hole in his chest
temporarily. That was a nice
waste of time. It's a sound device
but she grabs a live
electrical wire. That was just in this
church. Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, she connects it to this thing and it
shoots force lightning at him. Yes.
This is a great weapon.
We should be making it. Meanwhile,
Sister Mary Pat's
second grade class is looking on
right after their communion. Yes, they are
there all these little angels are just
lined up in the coral box there.
What are those faces on his
chest? Everybody!
And she's
like, oh, the whole movie
she's been trying to remember this dream master nursery rhyme kind of thing and then she's like oh
evil shall see itself and it shall die and she's got this mirror out of nowhere and now it's a mirror
that gets it I mean like that's if the nursery rhyme is the thing it needs to be said in its entirety
yes ever ever you know what I mean like and like then or it needs you based on a real nursery round
you might have heard like one two Freddy's coming for you you you put
that at the start of the movie instead of the book of
Job. Yes. Yes, exactly.
And it's just old nursery rhyme. That's with the credit that you
give. And then she fucking... Because it's
like mentioned twice before this and both times
nobody can remember it. And it's also
now mirrors are doing, wait, what? And then he's
like, not a mirror, my biggest
weakness all of a sudden.
It's my weakness. It's my weakness of the week.
And it starts letting all the souls like
out and these little hands start ripping
them up from the inside. It's like the shunt
here. Yeah, it's very shunty.
This is what you can see,
I believe, still at the Museum of the Moving
Image here in the city and Queens.
They have the big prop
chest with the souls,
which is pretty cool. Yeah. The odd thing,
though, you see this credit?
Who's credited here as one of these people?
No. So did you notice there's a part
where all the bodies are like breaking out?
I didn't. And there's one part
where you see a lady
kind of come up just a
rocking set of tits. Oh, really?
Yes. They hired
Scream Queen legend Leanna Quigley
just for this part. She's submerged
in a Matrix sack
looking thing. She shoves
her chest up against it and that's
she's credited as like, you know, topless
soul or something like that. I've heard of typecasting
but tit cast.
If there ever was an actress to be
titcast as Leana Quigley. We had a
we had a
tited lady on the waterbed. We want
to bookend these things. It's the
dramatically
that's true that's true
a titted lady
Chris
it's the titid lady
run for your life
oh attack of the tited lady
attack of the tited lady
oh I'm done channel surfing
I think I'll see what this is
oh channel sitting now
so yeah
I love all these little
puppets making their way out of him
I love how like every part of his body
is sprouting arms, and there's the great moment
where an arm sprouts out the back
of his head and grabs the baseboard
behind it so he can't go anywhere. It's cool.
But what's funny, it's kind of cheesy
and dumb, when they became a little ghost
danger, just like, well, freedom,
goodbye, thank you.
Y'all, the faces fly by her.
Joey goes to hell anyway, like, I did some other
shit you don't want to worry about.
Don't check my room.
There was a reason I was fooled by pussy this whole time.
And then, yeah, she has a
good rest in hell and kind of kicks
the glove away. Not too shabby.
And then we just have this final
Dan and Alice. I guess
they're now boyfriend, girlfriend.
We're married.
No, Dan.
Shh.
Be take wife.
They're like walking by this
fountain hand in hand. You know,
he's like, oh, I slept like
a rock last night, baby. And she's
like, yeah, still trying
to overcome the horrible adventure of the
week so I'm not sleeping too great
but she does confirm she is sleeping
and my brother was kind of my whole life and he's
like definitely dead forever so that's
pretty certain my dad's
trying to get in bed
with me in the middle of the night that's just awful
he has not stopped drinking
but yeah he's like
well why don't you make a wish about
it maybe your fucking life will get
better here's a penny
and he goes to throw it in
she goes to throw it in she
sees reflection
of the sweater. You don't see his face entirely. It's the sweater
in the water. Uh, and it's like, oh, do you see something? I don't
I don't know. Maybe the sequel will tell us. Goodbye movie.
Yeah. And that's just, that's, that's, that's the end of it. I think it's a cool
enough ending shot. I like to see him like in the, in the reflection. It's, you know,
he's out there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a same, you know, like, I think some of the
men with like his, you just hear his laugh, like in, yeah, the first movie where the top goes over and you
hears Laf as the car
so it drives away
there's like neat
things like that
I mean it's a haunting last line
of dancing
I want a hot dog
and French fries
directed by
Reddy Hartman
and then credits it
and then we get
I'm Freddy
and I'm rapping a song
oh man
ready for Freddy
with Freddie Krueger
and the fat boys
I gotta tell you
the music video
worth watching the fat boys
uh oh
they accidentally
walked into the Elm Street house
and haunted stuff happens
not the fat boys
So is 88 the height of Freddie mania or was that was that more I mean obviously because like you know the six movies the 90s that's definitely what it's over with and that's why that movie is it's totally done I mean this is yeah I mean three's got docking on that soundtrack and I believe it was really successful this was the most financial successful this was like in the I think I read that it was I mean I might be mistaken but it was like seven weeks in the top 10 of the box oh wow yeah it was at least at top it was number one for the first three yeah but uh yeah you
Yeah, no, I mean, huge, huge movie.
But, yeah, that song, I mean, it's fine, but I feel like, yes, that was, we are really in it.
I mean, because it's, that was on MTV, it played all over the place, it was huge.
And I don't think Five has a tune attached to it.
Does it, Will Smith run afoul of Freddie at some point?
Will Smith?
The Fresh Prince. I'm almost positive.
Oh, the, as the, oh, was Freddy on Fresh Prince or something?
No, I think there's a, he had another rap song.
I've, I've just always known of Ready for Freddy the Fat Boys tune.
A Nightmare on My Street, sung by DJ Jesse Jeff and the Fresh Prince.
Oh, but that's, it's a, I've heard of that song.
It's a Freddy thing.
Yeah, he's using all of it, he's in the video and the whole bit.
Now, when was this?
This is, blah, blah, come on.
So maybe was this the tune for five?
Possibly, that's a good question.
Just five's probably right at 89, I'd say.
Is there's also, in it?
the song was released as a single early 1988 in cassette tape
the song used describes an encounter with horror villain Freddy Krueger
and was considered for the inclusion of Nightmare and Elm Street
for the Dreammaster but the producers of the film decided against its conclusion
so in 1988 independently two rap songs
about Freddie fucking Kruger now how funny is this though
the Fresh Prince himself lost out to the
Bat Boys as far as soundtrack placement.
Wow.
Rightfully so.
Fat boys are superior.
Oh, hell yeah.
This is, that's crazy.
I didn't know that.
This is like one of those Mandela effects.
Yeah, I forgot about Nightmare on My Street.
No memory of that at all.
But that's the end of this movie.
Yeah, they made a few more and then that dreadful fucking remake, which.
We actually did a commentary track a few years ago to that movie.
That's right.
That's absolutely right.
But yeah, so that is the end of this.
We'll go around the horn here.
Final thoughts.
on what is our first of many four-or movies this month, Eric Siska.
Yes, I'm actually going to recommend this.
I feel like I didn't like this years ago,
and I feel like I've come around to it.
Maybe that's an indictment of the current state of everything.
Sure.
But, I mean, my Freddie rankings would probably be in order.
One, two, three, four.
We're just going down the staircase.
But there's still enough here for me.
I like, I think the special effects are kind of cool
and I just kind of had fun with it in a, you know,
this is Halloween, you know, kind of funny, dumb movie.
I had a good time rewatching it.
I did not expect to, but I did.
There you go.
Chris Cabin.
I like recommend it's actually I think one of the worst of the,
I think I like five more than I like four.
Freddy's dead, I think is five, right?
No, that's the next one after that.
The dream child is the next one.
Yes.
Dream child, yes.
Alice is pregnant with Caveman's baby.
I have memory hold of Dream Child completely.
We will get to it eventually.
But I like Freddy's Dead much more than I like this.
And I just, it's a mess.
Like the whole beginning waiting for him to come back.
Like, is you kind of come back?
It's the fucking nightmare movie.
What do you think is going to happen?
And that's stuff I find annoying.
Just get to the meat of the thing.
And that's why I like three much more better because it's like, let's go.
You set the table.
Yes.
for 30 fucking minutes
for a hamburger fucking pizza
is what I'm eating in here
don't set the fucking get the
candles out for it
wait a second did you time it is it actually 30 minutes
until you see Krueger on screen I did not
time that but it certainly feels like that
yeah it's it just takes too long
I kind of got annoyed once we're get going
it's pretty good even with hey
dad Johnson
I love that
that guy. Steve Sadek. Yeah, to recommend. I am with Eric. It's one of my more positive nightmare
movies. I would, you know, like, I think it is probably one, two, three, four all the way
through, like, in that order. But it's fun enough. I think that the kills are good. You know what I
mean? Like, I think Rennie Harlan understood to really put the, really go puppeteer crazy.
Sure. And that's what this movie does. That's kind of fun to watch in this area. It's not
scary at all. Logistically, it doesn't make any sense. It's annoying that we see.
stop talking about Elm Street but it's a recommend uh yeah the lightest of
recommends for me I really think I'm a one two three new nightmare fella oh and then
those them other three the back three movies I kind of just lump them all into a big
ball of I don't give a shit and I to to what Eric was saying this did actually play a
little better for me I looked on letterbox I did rate it much lower the last time I
watched it which I think is probably when we did the the franchise rankings for these
Yeah, I just, I agree with Chris.
It's a little too messy for my taste.
Some decent enough kills, but it does, and I mean, it plays this way, and you read about it, it was censored quite a bit.
The Kincaid's death was much worse, and like, I want that stuff.
Where is my Johnny Depp Blood found?
You know what?
A great way to watch this movie is a Halloween party.
You got all your friends there.
You got this motherfucker on you.
And it's just on, and everyone's kind of in and out of the room.
Because it looks cool.
It looks exactly.
Renny's got a good eye for something.
It looks cool.
And you just play the Will Smith song on repeat.
When you really want people to leave, you put on this movie and that song on repeat.
That is going to do it for this episode of the Halloween spooktacular here.
Of course, we should say, if you want more spooky, we hate movies content, this technically
is the first like, or no, this is the first, but the second coming out just a couple days
for now.
If you're listening to this, the day this comes out, the Tuesday it comes out, just a few short days from now,
movies all about Halloween for
folks. As far as our
forer movies, too. The real
subtitle, the subtitle of the movie is
the return of Michael Myers. Right.
But the real subtitle is Loomis off the chain.
Yes. Oh yeah. Our boys
going nuts. A good Loomis entry
into the Halloween franchise. And that
is a we like movies.
Yeah. It's a we like movies.
It's four or month. The fourth entry of a horror
franchise. Can you actually love it?
Exactly. And like we've been saying, folks, I mean,
this is season 15. It's just everything's
blending together. The Venn diagram
of love and hate
just together. So anyway, that's going on
over there. And also, if you had commercials on
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I did mention it already. The commentary coming
out at the back end of this month will be
on a silent night, deadly night
for the initiation.
That's right. Brian Yuzna movie.
Par excellence, real, real wild shit.
If you're a crazy forehead,
you don't want to check out our virtual live show
on Scream 4 on October the 23rd.
Just go to WHMpodcast.com
slash tour to get that information.
That's right.
That's going to be another West Craven joint
we're talking about,
not that this was one,
but in the world of West.
But we will also offer some breaks
from the four programming.
We have once in a lifetime again this October
covering Face of Evil.
Is that right, Chris?
I do believe so, yeah.
face of evil, we're going to, I want to kind of keep it a surprise because it is a kind of
simple, the lifetime. The premise is kind of simple, but there's a nice little hook too.
Oh, yeah. So just tune in, you know, and we'll have a lot of fun there. But, you know, we'll also do
our regular programming that you know and love, like the Nexus, the, our, the Gleap Glossary.
The Gleap Glossary, covering X-Arcon, the first Sith to have a life.
a double-edged lightsaber.
Like that. Love that guy.
All you guys were watching, like,
it was a trailer for Phantom Menace came out,
and you were like, whoa, so cool, double-edged lightsaber.
And I was like, I've seen it before.
That's what I was saying in 1999.
And right now, on the top tier,
we are doing too old for this shit.
It's back.
We were talking about the Penguin week in and week out.
I think they weirdly aired one episode two weeks ago,
and now it's going to go weekly.
I don't know what that is about.
I think the HBO was airing a football game or something.
what that's about. Yes, but we are covering
the show The Penguin in full and
also, you know, we have our Melrose Place
and 902N0
side show where we'll be covering just
the Melrose Place season two
finale. That's right. We are finally
at episode 31
of season two. It is the
90 minutes season finale.
So this month's Melro 2 and O
is all Melrose Place action
baby. And we're sad to say these are not
in season four.
No,
no season four.
Jump to season.
No, no, no.
Although we are in season four of TNG, where I do recall the episode we'll be talking about,
we haven't recorded it yet, it's an episode where the Enterprise crew meets a woman on a planet
who's controlling the society because she is telling them she's the literal devil.
Love that.
So it does sort of fit into the horror programming a little bit with the Nexus, and then the cartoon shows got nothing.
We'll figure it out.
Yeah, it's all the guys are smitten with space sirens, you see.
And all the ladies on the ship have to spend the 22 minutes of this animated episode running things.
Oh, that's horrifying.
Yeah, I think that was more than enough for Gene Roddenberry.
We'll see how that works out.
But the cool thing is here on We Hate Movies, 4-a-month, the four-er spooktacular, continues next Tuesday, Steve, with a conversation about what?
Hey, everybody, so right here is when Steve was about to tell you all that next week's episode was going to be Psycho4-Colon the Beginning.
uh but unfortunately we went to record the episode and boom out of nowhere part four not streaming
anywhere here in the states uh one through three you can get anywhere um but four yeah i guess is that bad
uh and i'm uh the only loser amongst us us for here on the show that owns the 4k set oh god uh so
we decided because we know so many people like to watch along uh you know with the programming we'll
wait and do Psycho4 another time
when it gets put back on streaming, hopefully
soon, because boy, that movie
is a stay tuned and a half.
So instead, next week, we are pleased to
present the final destination
from 2009.
That's the, of course, fourth film in the franchise,
and it's the one they did in
3D. Oh, God, can you tell
it was released in 2009?
So that's what's going on instead.
And yeah, like I said, sometime, hopefully,
in the near future, Psycho4, back
readily available, because I'd love
talk about that one. It's ridiculous.
But hey, fingers crossed
someday. But anyway, yes, next week,
the final destination, the
final destination. So until
next week with the final destination,
I've been Andrew Jupin.
Steven Zaid. Eric Siska.
Chris Cabin. Take it easy.
We all go a little mad sometimes.
You know, it's Halloween.
I guess everyone's entitled to one good scare.
Sometimes dead is better.
Zombies have entered the building.
They're at the door.
They're coming in!
It is time to keep your appointment with the wicker man.
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
He's sick for fucks. He's seen one too many movies.
Now, Sid! Don't you blame the movies!
Movies don't create psychos!
Movies make some movies.
Psychos for creative!
Put the fucking lotion in the back!
It was an excellent day for an exorcism.