We Hate Movies - S15 Ep769: Gladiator (W❤️M)
Episode Date: November 19, 2024“This will be a particularly ignorant episode… from an historical standpoint” - Steve, on WHM’s lack of history education On this week’s special We ❤️ Movies episode, we’re chatting ...about Royal Rid’s 2000-era action epic, Gladiator! How great of a run did this film set off for Russell Crowe? How easily eerie is Joaquin here? Did Jesse Ventura try to snag an audition along with Sven-Ole? How intense is that tiger sequence? Is the CGI’d Oliver Reed the first cinematic instance of Hollywood going to Tarkin Town and should we be calling it Oliver Reed-ville instead? And how funny is that “They Say No” decapitation? PLUS: How is this movie only one of THREE times Royal Rid was nominated for Best Director? Gladiator stars Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, Connie Nielsen, Richard Harris, Derek Jacobi, Djimon Hounsou, David Schofield, John Shrapnel, Ralf Moeller, Spencer Treat Clark, David Hemmings, Tommy Flanagan, Sven-Ole Thorsen, and Oliver Reed as Proximo; directed by Ridley Scott. This episode is brought to you in part by Uncommon Goods. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMON GOODS dot com slash WHM. That’s UNCOMMON GOODS dot com slash WHM, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary. Be sure to catch us in Boston for our final show of the year! We’ll be talking about the film Pretty Woman at Laugh Boston on December 4! It’s our last stop on the road before we hibernate until next year, so we wanna see you out there! Click through here to get your tickets! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Bus Movie, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.
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This week on We Love Movies, it's basically a revenge film set inside the jacked-up world
of gladiator man-on-tiger combat.
It's Ridley Scott's Gladiator.
I'm Andrew Aurelius.
Do you like Gladiator movies?
Stephen Zadak.
Eric Siska and Chris Gavin.
And we love movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to We Love Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. We Love Movies month is continuing. We were talking about LOTR last week, this week, oh,
baby it's gladiatorial combat indeed ridley scott's 2000 era epic film right what was the roman new
roman numerals they gave the 4k and blu-ray desk mm oh it was like m m for 2000 and then
m mv for 2005 was when the extended cut came out right okay i just thought that was very funny
and i was just like no no no i thought this took place earlier
A little earlier.
Is this the wrong movie?
Is this this ain't Gladiator?
Oh shit.
Yep, there you go.
I was,
because it's been a long week.
We're recording a lot this week.
We did Lord of the Rings as well.
And literally when this movie starts in the big battle,
I'm like,
Deb orcs.
No dojo-orcs coming out,
coming down that mountain?
Oh, my God,
the monsters coming down the mountain.
They're born out the ground.
Well, it's Germania.
These are barbarians.
I'm sure that guy's digging guys out of the ground.
Oh, sure.
Oh, yeah.
Are you kidding me?
No.
And it's the same language.
I mean, I mean, but the hood.
That is an orc yell, if I ever heard one.
That means Romans are back on the menu, boys.
Yeah, exactly.
Better start eating, kids.
I will say that this will be a particular, thank you, Chris, for issuing it in.
This will be a particularly ignorant episode of weird.
Oh, right.
From a historical standpoint, forget about it.
Absolutely.
People care about history.
I don't understand it at all.
Tell me a fun little yard.
I don't, oh, did the emperor not actually get killed in combat in the Coliseum?
That's not a surprise to me.
It's just this close to the crucifixion.
We're not even 200 years out.
Like, this is where it's real, like, you could tell me, orcs and dragons, they all existed.
I'd be fine.
That's a great point.
There was definitely, the historical record proves, Chris, dragons present at the crucifixion.
That would make sense to me.
I got to tell you, I've told this story.
before we feel i did not get to see this movie
in theaters uh did any of you guys
get to see it in theater oh yes i did
yeah it was great
big old movie had to see it
the year 2000 i got my big fat
popcorn my big fat belly and we enjoyed
ourselves this was uh this was may
of 2000 so this was really like kicking off
the summer summer uh blockbuster
well you know i was almost about to say extravaganza
but that's our thing the summer you know the summer months
oh yeah yeah and universal signed off on
the controversial sepia tone
opening thing
for your when the universal globe
comes up. Right, yes. There's
that. I thought you were alluding to the part where
Maximus touches grass, which we
should all do from time to time.
That's right. Yes, we do. I mean, everybody needs to do that.
I guess that's wheat.
Wheat fields. He's in the wheat fields.
But yeah, this was, I was
banned from seeing this movie in theaters
or thwarted. So this was, so this came out
uh it was like mid-may um and there was we were with some uh buds in high school and so this was
made so like everyone was underage uh which was just a bunch of 16-year-olds
going to the movies and we're like okay we'll sneak into gladiator we'll buy tickets for you
571 that came out like two weeks or three weeks prior is oh yes and so like we went
and we bought the tickets and it was a thing where like the theater was shaped like an h like the
the hallways were shaped like an h and you had like down you know left and you're right there
was theaters you know auditoriums and then the middle hallway there was three auditoriums and it was
like if you bought a ticket for a movie on the left you could use the middle hallway to go to the
right side of the theater and see something else that's how i snuck in the blair witch project
uh american beauty tons of other movies but so we're doing this for gladiator and i guess
they've been thwarting a lot of people because like people were fucking hype for this
movie yeah and we're go we're cut across and this dude that i would later like go on to a
to work for. And this dude
does a hands on the hips
sidestep. Like he's Richard Simmons doing some sort
of exercise move. And he's just like
where you guys think you're
going. Oh, the way you think you're going.
And it was like, you know, man. You fucking know. Don't make
me fucking say it. And he's like,
you have tickets for you, 5, 7.1.
If I catch you in any other
theater, I'm calling the cops.
I mean, Andrew.
Andrew, you of all people
understand and celebrate.
the good feelings of petty power plays.
Oh, I know.
And that's why there's some other podcast out there.
There's some other podcast with some other guy talking about a time I did the exact same thing.
Well, no, I'm just saying the guy also was just enjoying some petty fucking power.
Like, oh, you little kids think you're going to sneak into a movie like every single person does.
Oh, my God.
This happened to me with American Psycho the same year.
It was the same exact story.
Instead of U-571, it was keeping the faith, remember that one?
Oh, sure, absolutely.
When a rabbi and a priest loved the same woman or one of them?
Yeah, they don't make those anymore.
I feel like the early aughts, maybe it was just the beginnings of the Bush era,
was like they started checking a little bit more than they had been before.
Because I remember my teen years, I was in the Bronxers fucking buying tickets to God knows what.
You know what it was?
It was Columbine.
Yeah, that probably was, yeah.
That's what we're all seeing movies we shouldn't be.
movies, video games, that's
fucking CDs became
like under lock and key. Yes.
And for a bit there, Columbine
was as bad as it was going to get.
We were, as a nation, we're like,
oh, that's it. That's it. 2001,
that's never going to happen. None of that's
ever going to happen. By the way,
you just enjoy it. By David Cullum.
Columby.
That's the worst it's going to get.
So surely, preventing a bunch of 60-year-old kids for
going to see Ridley Scott's gladiated, that's going to
fucking save it.
That's right.
You don't want them impaling fucking cats on their way home.
Yeah.
That'd be a problem.
That's what they'll do.
That's what they'll do.
The, uh, the touch and the touch and the, um, wheat there, you know, the hands over the, the, the crop there.
Mm-hmm.
I feel like that, I don't, like, that's gone down as like a really famous shot.
Right?
Like, that's popped up.
Like, when people are making montages about the movies, I feel like a lot of the times when you
see and stuff like that, whether it's like the Oscars,
or, you know, whatever, you see Russell Crow's hand going over this, you know,
I think it's a preferred version of heaven because it really, it, everybody can get in on
it. Old people love this idea. I'm just going to be walking and touching wheat. They're
thrilled by that. A couple of kids, you know, you're done with the noise and everything. You
just have some wheat, fantastic. I would love it, you know, if I could just dine it in, go to the
Roman slash Amish afterlife. I really do think that that's what it connects with people. They just
want to be in a wheat field that's my first
the hell dude fucking just sitting around like waiting
for what what's gonna happen what do you prefer
the bus stop exactly
I got a fucking I got an
iPod on me or something I need a little
something this movie
this movie operates the same way
the show lost wound up
operating as far as like what the
afterlife means because like
ultimately the final season of that
show ends with them
it's like everybody who was involved
in the rigum
all, you know, they become like a family in their own way. And it's like everybody is waiting
in this like church in the afterlife for everybody to die and like go together to the next thing.
And it's the same thing here. It's just a bigger bus stop. Like this is just three people.
But that would be so terrible. Imagine like you go to the afterlife, all your old relatives.
And you're like, it's like a first day of a job where you're like, okay, oh, hi, Jim. Nice to meet.
You know, meet you. I guess you're my ancestors. I'm never going to remember that name.
I'm going to be like, hey, you, how are you doing?
Oh, you were born 200 years ago?
Interesting.
Yeah.
I'm just like, hey, man.
It's like, I'm your great grand uncle.
Oh, cool.
Take me around to everyone's grain cubicles introducing me.
I got to tell you, though, the way that this looks, the way that Ridd shoots this and the filters that he puts on it, it looks like the fucking, like outer, outer territory afterlife from Beetlejuice.
I was expecting a sandworm to pop out.
It was the year 2000, we were going
Filter crazy
in this movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And Black Hawk Down, too.
Oh, my, oh, dude, that was Filter City.
But that's honestly why I've never rewatched Black Hawk down.
I watched it once and I was like,
I hate the way this looks.
It's making my eyes hurt and I never went back to it.
Same, the sandworms in that movie?
Oh, dude, they're taking the copters down left or right?
I couldn't believe it.
fucking destroy Eric Banna's bicycle.
This movie takes place in
180 AD, which for all I know,
to Chris's point about
goblins and dragons, there could be sandworms
in one of the way. For all I know,
the historical scroll is basically like,
Rome, it's around.
Yeah, you want to be a real big.
It's kind of big.
I got it right here from the library.
Oh, good. Oh, yeah. It's a big one.
Strap in. At the height of its power, the Roman Empire
was vast, stretching from the deserts
the Africa to the borders of northern England. Over one quarter of the world's population
lived and died under the rule of the Caesars. Those were the salad days.
Oh, good Lord. Nothing. Anchovies. Your oral anchovies. Yes. In the winter of 108 AD,
Emperor Marcus Aurelius is 12-year campaign against the barbarian tribes in Germania was winding
down to an end and just one final stronghold stands in the way of Roman victory and the
promise of peace through the
empire. Empire, empire.
And when do we
fear the gin? Oh, no, that's wishmaster.
Apologies. That's
not quite yet. I'll tell you what, Maximus
could have used to fucking... Oh, absolutely. He would
have fucking... Oh, man. You want vengeance, do
you? I would have taken a gin.
Wow, you know what, man.
I don't know if I can grant you a
final wish. You're a pretty twisted
dude. But yeah, we're getting
ready for this eve of this big battle.
one character that is under that I forgot about
that disappears in the early
ongoing of the movie is gladié dog
he's great the battle dog man
yes this this dog man
he should be getting you know I think this is probably
before we were doing like the Medal of Freedom for Animals
well yeah yeah yeah right like we weren't awarding animals anything
but this this dog he he deserves his own little
piece of the empire right like take carve out like
just carve out a part of Europe and make it like
big dog part.
Well, this dog right here, I'm going to tell you,
he missed out. Computers took
his job, because this would be the prime
dog to put in that fucking Godforsaken
thing remake. You want a dog
of this caliber in there to do something
at this. And what did they do? They give to the
fucking computer. You barely get
a fucking dog in that movie. It's all computer shit.
I would have loved a dog and call
of the wild.
Oh, God.
I've got about that movie.
Hell on Earth. Chewbacca with him.
But this is a great dog.
like he's just got great
presence. He does help
Russell Crow out a couple of times. Like, it'd be
great instead of, is it Tommy Flanagan
at the end? He's like, oh, oh,
I remember if the dog
is just going to the
Coliseum, you know,
kind of unknown, it's like, oh, wow,
that's my old boss.
Yeah, they meet up with each other.
Yeah, the dog could like throw up the little
dollies of his wife and kid
and buried in the giant
litter box. All right. All right.
All right, doggy, I need you to go.
Where are the men?
Find all the boys.
Bring him here.
Tell him where I'm being held, captive doggy.
What's that boy?
Maximus Drapped in the Coliseum.
Gladiatee Dog, better movie, by the way.
Oh, please.
How has it not happened already?
What's that boy?
He wants to fuck his sister.
Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
Oh, well, Gracius, there's actually no rule the dog.
and fight a man in the gladiator pit.
And now it just turns an airbag, essentially.
Yeah.
Well, you know, Maximus, there's no rule that says a dog can't rule over the Roman Empire.
All hail emperor dog.
Here he comes.
Here comes the gladiator dog.
Oh, the tiger's ripping apart.
Oh, oh, oh, no.
Yeah, so they are, you know, on this, the Germanic border here.
And they basically have sent a dude into the.
Forrest to be like, hey dudes, you want to come quietly and let us take you over or what?
And the fucking guy rides out on this horse and you see one of Maximus's guys, or does Maximus say it?
Someone's like, they say no.
And it's this dude with the guy's head.
It rules.
It's pretty cool.
It's a headless horseman.
And honestly it is headless horseman.
Oh, you're right.
Yes, that's right.
They send the body out on the horseback first.
They say no.
Well, that, yeah, that is absolutely Maximus who says that because he's speaking to.
verifiable piece of fucking shit,
Quintus.
Oh, dude, that guy's obvious.
They tried to do a job at the end of this fucking movie
and try to make him a good guy.
No way.
Uh-uh.
No, uh-uh.
No, sir.
You oversaw the crucifixion of a child.
You do not get to like post-burning.
Get a thumbs up at the end.
That's not that bad.
In 108 or 180, it was, that was just a job you could get was crucifying children.
Of course.
Normal.
Well, yeah.
You can just be a cop now, too, Eric.
You just don't do it.
But Quintas, you know, it's whatever the wind is blowing.
That's the vibe.
That's why it's the end.
Hello.
Hello.
Come on.
Open the door.
It's Quintas.
Kid Crucifier here.
We have no children.
Is this not 742 romantic ways?
Well, yeah.
I mean, it's tough getting references for this kind of stuff.
But you know what?
Why don't you send a pigeon to this guy?
I took care of his wife and son.
Maybe he would give you some reference
of how good I am.
Oh, wait, I'm so high in government
that I'm next to the fucking emperor all the time.
Well, that's the thing, dude.
Quintas, you know, shitbag that he is.
When you smell a coup coming,
you want to fucking be right in on that shit.
Because if you're on the right side of a coup,
guess is getting a huge promotion.
Garbage.
He's like, like, the chief.
from staff or something.
Yeah, something like that.
This is Thomas Arama,
who hilariously, more Roman activity.
He's in all six episodes of the new Pope.
Oh, nice.
So there you go.
We should say,
we should say this is one of the only,
which is just kind of shocking to me.
Only three times Ridley Scott Royal Rid
was nominated for Best Director,
which is shocking to me.
That's crazy.
And this one kind of feels like,
That should have been the one.
Yeah.
No, it should have.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, it kind of feels like there was so much stacked up by this point that nominating him for this is like Scorsese get nominated for the departed.
It should have been Thelma.
Although Scorsese won that.
It should have been Thelma.
I think 100% it should have been Thelma.
Which is a much better movie.
I mean, they're both a good movie.
Thelma is a great movie.
I enjoy that.
That's like a great movie that is directed very uniquely.
I think that is the one to give to it.
But, like, I would just have liked.
but to get one, period.
We should say, by the way, Thelma and Louise, not the movie Thelma.
No, sorry.
Either of them.
There's like three of them.
The June Squib Thelma movie, I have to say, is quite delightful.
I'm sure not.
I'm not, I have not seen it.
It looks like he did get nominated for this one.
Yeah, he didn't win.
I guess it was Angley, Stephen Soderberg, and Stephen Daltry.
Well, it gets the Stephen Daltry out there, but like the other two certainly deserve it.
Well, 2000.
So what did it go to, Soderberg for traffic?
It's the 2001.
Let's see here.
Now, for some reason, this is how the world works now.
You try to Google something.
It doesn't really tell you.
So that's why I'm stretching this out
and to tell you that the winner was Steven Soderberg for traffic,
which I just have.
Excellent vamping, dude.
That's the top quality gabbing.
But that's my point.
I was trying to make a point that there was better competition back then.
You could actually make movies for adults.
Yeah.
I mean, not that this is a movie for adults necessarily, though.
I mean, I think this is adult-ish at least.
Wow, Soderberg nominated twice.
in the same year. Oh, yeah, baby. He was
hitting home runs at that point. Traffic
and Brockovich for directing. Yep.
That's wild.
But his final
nominee was Black Hawk
Down. I mean, like,
honestly, like,
there's just
it's crazy Blade Runner didn't get there,
you know, you got...
That was, you know, the theatrical at the time
and, yeah, it was divisible.
I love Royal Red. I like
all, I basically like most of his movies.
I've decided to just come
out and say it like i'm not you know it's it's it's i can understand the rotten perspective on some
but even the rotten i'm like i'll take this over a lot of other stuff i mean prometheus i would
i'd let him fucking be nominated for prometheus i love per me i know people don't turn off the
radio it's okay to like a movie it's okay to dislike a movie that's right that's right uh yeah
so we we have this big battle and then yes steve this is very much you're on the orc lookout here
this very much feels like lord of the rings because it
Again, I mean, those are two movies where, like, the amount of extras was massive.
So, like, you get that scale, you know, obviously you have a little more CGI and gleep-glops and shit in Lord of the Rings and whatnot.
But, like, as far as, like, getting dozens of people together to, like, theatrically fight each other on a set, like, same vibes.
Yeah.
And this is, I mean, not just at the beginning of that, but this was really popularizing the big, you know, a huge war, you know,
scene that we love to shoot.
Right.
You know, that carry through the
Lords of the Rings, carry through your Troy,
your fucking. Right. And Ridley
Scott's a master of it. I mean, I think
Napoleon's, uh, fight scenes are just as
good, if not better than these.
He's good at fights.
Although, uh, if anybody sees the,
uh, director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven,
he's got some incredible fights in that one.
Uh,
you know, this, so this dog is, you know,
he's taking souls left and right.
They take down the big guy, the big head
throwing leader guy like
you're fucking swarming like an ATAT
like they're just trying to like wrap
this guy up any way they can to bring him to the ground
and then like a horde of
dudes like jumps on this guy
and kills him. What I love about
this is so the
it's starting and then
you know separate of that
Maximus has to go into
the woods to see his boys
like the really close ones
that like he's like okay they're all
slaughtering each other back there. Now
guys listen to me we're all here we're all we're going to win this from marcus aurelius this is
going to be his day today and you know what maybe i'm going to be king tomorrow you don't even
know about that man you hear me battle dog we're going to get you in the presidency battle dog
and i just love that like he has to he he warms up the crowd and then he has to go back to
like his private like circle of posse yeah just to be like let's get to warren yeah well
that's the you know uh if you find yourself in elysium you're already dead
Don't worry about it.
It's kind of funny.
If you see Matt Damon, you're dead.
If you are having lunch with your grandma who you haven't seen in 13 years,
you might already be dead.
If you see Matt Damon with a weird spine thing going up his back and a weird bald head
and he's on a big-ass space station, you might be in the movie,
Elysium instead.
I never saw it, man.
Yeah, no.
Me either.
I think that's his best, a Blum cap or whatever.
Oh, okay. Blumkin, yeah.
Yeah.
Not Matt Damon, my lord.
No, no, no, no, no.
But I do love, there's a great decapitation here where fucking Russell Crow loses his sword in a tree because he decapitates it, dude, so hard.
Pretty good.
There's a lot of great kills here.
Really awesome violence going on.
And as the battle sort of settles down, you know, it turns into basically like, basically like,
like a slow-mo shaky cam montage thing, which tells you, you know, that's Royal Ridd being like,
hey, this is ongoing, but I showed you all the cool stuff you're going to see.
We're sort of transitioning into the next part here.
And this is we meet Joaquin Phoenix and Connie Nielsen as a brother and sister, fucking
Combinus and Lucilla, and they are being called to the front line by their father of the
Emperor Marcus Aurelius.
Already too much Brandon Brenda stuff going here.
Right off the bat in this little carriage.
I'm getting way too much of it.
Oh, sister, ever since we shared a bathroom, everything has been better.
I parked Mondale out front today.
Mondale the horse.
I was thrown from Mondale and hurt my back.
Only you can help me now, sister.
All hell Caesar, Jim Walsh.
He wishes.
He fucking wishes.
If anyone's confused, this is 902.1.0 references.
We do a side show on Patreon on 902.1.
We do, indeed.
Which we do enjoy.
But yeah, so they're, yeah, they're very incestuous or like, it's not even that one-sided deal, dude.
I feel like she's giving him an H.J. once and he'll never forget it.
You're totally right.
It happened one summer fucking 20 years ago.
She jerked them off by Lake Como.
Whoa.
You know.
So 160 AD?
Yes.
Put that.
Back in 160.
Let's add it to the scroll.
no if you're going back in time
it's got to go the other way it's 200 a
oh fuck
no no no no that's BC
yeah AD yeah you're right
all right so just for clarity
she jerked off her brother
in 140 AD
but we are in AD so it's the
wild days it's the all or nothing days
you can do hand jobs any witchy way you like
I refuse to understand BC
once you get to negative years
and like well aren't we living in them
already
but so they you know
they're sitting in this fucking
carriage. And it's, yeah, I think to me
anyway, it's a lot of, like, him
grossly obsessed with her.
And she's like, oh, man, this guy could
have me fucking put to death at some point.
You know, sister, these days,
that's not that weird.
I think it is actually.
I think it's pretty weird.
No, actually, it's quite normal.
Because we want the pure bloods, you understand.
That's what I was reading. I was reading
in the forum,
the penthouse forum, about these
his brother and sister
stepbrother and sister
and you see she was stuck
in the handmade's
washing apparatus
you understand
father he's told me
another stuck story
in the carriage
I was just changing the plug
on the aqued duck
and I got stuck
and then this guy came home
for the last time
comedist I'm not a step anything
I'm your actual sister
so keep it in your pants
but yeah
they don't know
why they've been summoned.
You know what I mean?
We haven't seen our father for so many years.
He loves me on the front lines.
We're, but we'll see what this is all about.
He's summoned us both.
And do you think he's really dying?
Yes.
He's been dying for 10 years.
Yeah.
Oh, joyful.
And then, yes, they've got to go to the front lines.
Just comedy.
So, oh, how about to blow me a kiss while I'm out here?
As he's mounting Mondale to ride off.
At this point, we have met,
Marcus Aurelius
pointed by the late great Richard Harris
He's like
By the way
Maximus
I don't know if you know this
I despise my son
wholeheartedly
And wish for you to take over
When I resign
And give Rome
Back to the Senate and the people
Can you just do that
Like can you write a letter?
Yes
You're really putting me out here
Caesar
I hate to break it to you dude
This is really
Honestly
Really put me out
Once he's dead, I'd be like, well, congratulations, Cometus.
I'm off to Spain to my farm.
Exactly.
Let me go home.
Come on, boss.
Just let me go home.
Because, like, yeah, exactly.
Boss, 100%, right?
Because like, as much as it's like, oh, yes, of course.
I treasure you like a son, Maximus.
No, no, no, no, no.
You've been working this dude like a fucking war dog for however long.
Get out of there.
Dude, you owe this guy.
Nothing.
Fuck you pay me.
Exactly.
His man has been away for so long
He thinks his wife's hair is black
And it is not
It is absolutely not
The man is gone
He's lost his mind
Well it's kind of great
Because like everyone's just like
I can't see you as a farmer maximus
I mean without you putting the sword
Inside of a German's fucking skull
I just can't imagine you doing that
You know and doing anything other than that
You're so good at it
Like if you're not taking a life Maximus
I mean what are you even
doing you're totally worthless it's like when the soldiers find out that tom hanks is a teacher
and save the private rye what what what but you're so good at shooting the tank that's
slowly approaching i could you were born to kill krauts i can't imagine it i love uh when
comidus like gets up to the front line and like goes to you know it goes up to richard harris or
whatever he's like did i miss it did i miss the battle
or whatever. And he says something about
like, oh, is it coming to you an end or whatever? And he's like,
it's pretty much over, you fucking
moron. Oh, boy.
He's like, I'm helping daddy at work today. That's exactly what
it feels like, dude. That's that. Because
yeah, their interactions are 100%
that. But once we get to the party,
like this is like
a nightmare scenario. Your boss's son is an awkward
creep who thinks you're his brother.
Yes. Yeah, dude. It's just
following you around talking about
Are you loyal to the family?
And I'm like,
dude, I want to fuck my wife.
Can you please just stop this?
I want to go home and fuck my wife.
I know you and your sister probably at the same time
want to fuck me, but that's not happening.
There's like a past with him and Connie Nielsen.
Yes.
Which actually, I misremembered this movie.
I thought her kid was his.
Oh, yeah.
I kind of had that.
I was like, oh, when does he find out that this little turns?
his son, too. And then it just doesn't happen to the
move. But I like the idea of him
getting mixed into this, like all of them
fucking with each other. Like he could be the
crew nuts, the crew nuts.
Yes. Is that, that's a salad term, right?
Croutons? Croutons.
Croutons. It could be the croutons
in the Caesar salad. Just imagine
if that wasn't humbled.
Oh, Max,
Maximus, I'm
stuck in a horse skate.
I don't care.
I do not care.
Perhaps your wiener will help me get unstuck.
The only one I on stick from things is me wife.
I only have four layers beneath me.
But yes, this party, like, everyone's kind of coming at the maximumus.
Yes, which implied that he's got, he definitely nailed Connie Nealson in a different life.
But things are different now.
Definitely.
You've got some senators farting around here like this piece of shit, Falco,
rock me Amadeus indeed
motherfucker. Yeah, shouldn't you be in
Germania? Yeah, exactly
making your fucking synth pop.
Which I do appreciate it like. It's great.
Yeah, it's great. Wonderful music.
It is kind of amazing with these senators are like,
man, it was really cool when we ran things.
Well, we probably will one day.
Bye. Who knows?
Oh, Maximus, we must save Rome
for the politicians, says Comedus.
I mean, it's so awkward
because, like, even
Richard Harris is, like,
skeved out by, like, things that, like,
are supposed to be normal with his, like,
comitists at one point is, like,
I would slaughter 50 bulls to entice,
to make, make a, uh, what's it called a,
fuck. Oh, yeah, tribute to you.
Tributes. He says it when he meets him.
He's like, oh, what a great victory. Father,
I'm going to slay hundreds of bulls in your honor.
And Richard Harris is like, that's okay, man.
That's, it's really all right.
Save the bulls.
Save the balls, stupid, save the balls.
Honor Maximus instead, he won the battle.
Well, you were doing nothing.
But your sister, you're wanting to do your sister.
I love that we have this scene where Marcus Aurelius, the emperor, is like,
Oh, Lucilla, you would have made an excellent boss to this family,
much like Sophia Falcone on the show The Pension.
Like, he's like lamenting that he now can't, like, give the empire, like, over to her
because she's way better than her
dipshit brother.
But also, like, there's these new commercials
for, they're kind of humorous
for wills where, like,
it's like this, they always start with like this
very moving thing. We're like, you know,
when we die, we want you to take the kids.
And then some guy pops up, something's like, doesn't count.
And like, you gotta get this will.
No, wait, wait, wait.
New Sibat jumps up and says,
he kind of down, Toasty!
Yes, he does.
It's like, oh, you know, when I leave,
I want to leave this car to you
that doesn't count
gotta put it in a wheel
and that's actually
I want that guy to travel back
to fucking 180
AD and tell
fucking Marcus Aurelius that
You can't just be fucking whispering
shit to fucking gladi
to generals
This is a great point
If only Marcus Aurelius is watching
Jersey City late night TV
You could figure this out
I mean he's an old man
He's drunk and like probably on powders
Of all sorts
All the time
I don't trust it even.
He's watching Chopped with me.
Oh, I don't think they're going to be able to use all four ingredients.
Nice ploy, Ted Allen.
We'll just see, maybe they'll do something with the bok choy.
You didn't use the bok choy.
This is ridiculous, Ted Allen.
What are they supposed to do?
That was a basket ingredient?
It's 20 ounces of crushed cool ranch Doritos.
on a bok chrusted bok choy i don't think so
but that's not really transforming an ingredient is it
you're just kind of putting it on the plate
but yeah so like he
but yeah he does pull a mark
maximum society he tells him and he's like
you have to sundown to figure out what you want to do
meanwhile i'm going to do the thing which uh every idiot
does is i tell my evil son separately
you know you know he's a creep
You just, come on.
You know this.
You've got to do it in front of both of them
and get the whole Praetorian Guard out.
Yes.
Oh, man.
Hey, get as many witnesses as you fucking get.
Get Quintus in there, get Glendier dog in there as well.
100%.
Squire guy with the scars.
Get the hell in here.
Do it in front of all the men, too.
Do it out in public with the entire army.
Shame him.
All right, everyone.
Everyone, listen up.
I know we're having a most excellent post-battle
rager. But I just have to say
in front of you all
my stupid son
will not be emperor.
Yes, and the punch has been
spiked. Your parents
have been called. They're coming
to pick you up soon. Now,
if he tries to hug me, please
get between us. Please
take his hug for me because they are
deadly to me.
This is really fucking tough
because he's like, you will not be emperor.
Rome is to be a republic again.
They go on and on and on about all this shit.
He's got this huge daddy issues.
You know, if you gave me one full hug he's crying about and then here we go.
Oh, my God.
He fucking signs his own death notice right here.
Marcus Aurelius is like, your faults are my failures.
Yes.
As a father.
And he goes, I would have butchered the whole world.
If only you would love me.
Meanwhile, Richard Harris is down on his knees being like, my fuck ups, you know,
are why you're a piece of shit.
And just getting hugged to death.
It's a smothered.
Well, it's like a Roman headlock, dude.
My God, oh, no.
He's like trying to tap out, but he won't let him go.
Why is it the referee called the match?
Can he see what's going on?
Oh, damn it.
He's an old man.
Get him out of that.
Markerserillius is dead.
Stoishism is dead.
He kills him with kindness, which is nice in a way.
Lament with me, brother.
Our great father is dead.
I love, I mean, it's not that, but I love the voice.
that Joaquin is putting on here, man.
It's very good.
Well, this is the kind of,
not the beginning, but like the real
beginning of, what do you call it there,
of Joaquin?
He had done to die for in 95,
got a lot of notice for that.
Looking up, he did U-turn.
He was 8mm, he was kind of a seed stealer.
He's like the, is he like the number two
in 8mmeter or no?
He's like the fun guy that helps out
Nick Cage.
Yeah, okay.
I feel like you turn it.
I kind of like it.
I know it's dumb, but he plays on TNT, like this local guy.
Again, kind of seed steelery.
And then this is like, I mean, the yards, if anyone ever saw it.
Oh, hell yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Great movie.
No, yeah.
But this is a huge blockbuster movie where he is the village.
Oh, yeah.
And then from there on, it's like Wakene Town signs.
I mean, 2000, 2000 alone set him up for like all, like all sorts of kinds of Joaquin, right?
because like 2000 is this
2000 is the yards which you already mentioned
and 2000 is also Quills
so like 2000 was the year that I think
like American movie audiences were like wow like
Joaquin Phoenix can do a ton of shit
for all the perversions in the movie
is Quills the only one of those three
where he's not trying an incest thing
I think so I think he's like the regular guy
he's like hey how about missionary sex
and ever hear that
wow writing with your feces is weird
I'll do it don't get me wrong
I'll ease myself into it.
But yeah, because then, like, you know,
2002 brings on signs.
Then he gets into the village.
He's fucking doing voices in the animated film Brother Bear.
He's in Hotel Rwanda.
And then he's doing, like, the massive Hollywood shit,
Latter 49, Walk the Line.
Yeah.
It goes back to Gray with We on the Night.
Right?
That's a James Brown movie.
Oh, yeah.
So, I mean, it's just, yeah,
this is really, like, Ground Zero for, like,
Joaquin Phoenix.
big movie star.
Yes. Yeah. So yeah, he's
he murders his dad and like
he goes up to Maximus and it's
just basically like, hey man,
is it so sad that my dad died in natural causes?
You're like my number one though, right?
And it's like, nah.
No, no, yeah. Yes, I am.
Of course, yes. I would love to go check on the misses, but I
pledge fully to you. Have a great
reign. Caesar. Like exactly.
Yeah. That's like your dad's last
wish was that I go back to Spain
and hang out my wife and smoke pot.
And I really appreciate
Everything he did for me
If you ever have another work
Give me a call, we'll see, we'll talk
No, you don't need to know where I live, man
That's okay
You don't, like that's all right
I'm fine not saying that
It's one two farm road
Spain
Also, because the funny thing is
He even says to him
Like, oh, you know
Don't get too comfy when you're home
Maximus like I might need you later
So he's actually even cool
With him leaving in the
this moment. And, like, Maximus just needs to do a thing where he's like, uh, if you give me
one second, I just need to get something out of my carriage.
Mush, mush, get out of here. And he just like peels out. He needs to have the Pulpictions.
He just goes to the beer. He's like, all right, you're going to go out there. You're going to
shake his hand. You're going to finish your drink. Go home. You jack off. And that's all
you're going to do. And when the carriage peels out, it sounds like a car for no reason. I would love
dude if this movie just had a tire squeal
what that's how much I care about historical accuracy
if I'm entertained are you not entertained then I'm fine
but no he does the wrong thing which he's like
oh no and he tries to let everybody know that
Joaquin is evil which obviously gets him fucked
he won't embrace him
yes that's right he might be embraced afterwards and it won't do it
he won't bludgeon him yeah he fucking ices him right out
And again, that's a problem.
Because like, just fake a handshake, man.
We've all fucking meaningless.
We've all done it.
You know what?
Give them the limp fish if you want to get back.
Oh, yeah, the limp fish.
Also, I'm sorry, but you're a general in this harmony.
Do you really think you're the only one who has had to fucking deal with a shitty boss?
I know the last one was great and all.
And that's nice for you.
And you took you in as a son and gave all his power.
This guy is going to give you that same power and not burn.
and kill and crucify your kids
and wife. If you just
fucking let him be.
He's a Caesar. You're all
going to hell for all the murders you've done.
You know what it means? You might as well
enjoy it. That's true. It's all going to burn.
So Lucilla
pledges her fealty here. It's kind of
a great like she slaps him
in the face and then kisses his hand
and it's just like,
Hail Caesar.
That's disinterested, but that was enough for
him, you know this guy's heart as a rock. Don't worry
about that. And then he, it's
so great because he goes to Quintus, like
Russell Crow's all in chains
and stuff, he's about to get executed. He's like,
just please spare my wife and kiddies.
Yeah, nothing I can do about that, pal.
Yeah. That's a set in
stone. It's cold, right?
Your family will meet you in the
afterlife. Yeah, that's
fucking tough to hear. And he tells these guys
like, I'm sorry, ride
till dawn and then execute him.
All right, I will send my
two greatest warriors,
Fatso and Slobo.
Like, I don't know, dude.
This guy is the greatest general
you've ever seen.
He's decapitating dudes.
He's got a super dog.
Let's get four fucking dudes out there.
Get somebody who's not looking after a jar
with a bee in it.
Just try to find somebody else.
These aloof guys on their horses,
I'm surprised they weren't eating like sub sandwiches
or like hoagies or whatever.
Dude, yeah, again,
just you have this big gladiatorial epic.
just show me a dude on a horse
eating a huge sandwich that hasn't been invented
yet. Please just do it.
It would be so great. No, no. It's like
Marie Antoinette. It's for artistic reason.
Right, yeah. It doesn't make sense, but
it's fine. Anybody hear something?
It's like, Maria Antoinette
did the music. They just do the food in this.
So it's just like, oh, thank you, Proximo for the full-sized
Snickers bar.
Maximus is eating chicken tendies, and he's just
fucking slobbing sauce on it.
Yes, exited pizza, but.
My final meal is Marcus Aurelius shall be pizza bites.
Did you know that the Coliseum has a Buffalo Wild Wings now?
Let us drink these prime energy drinks now, together, brother.
You have truly not lived until you've done all you can eat
garlic palm wing night at Buffalo Wild Wings.
Actually, if you go, it's kind of hidden the Coliseum,
but there is a Mubufuco chicken stand,
and it's actually, the sandwiches are quite,
I would love this. This is an indictment
of sports bars and
sports stadiums. Like
someone's got to say something and gladiator
had a chance. They did.
But so it's kind of great. He asks
for like he's like give me a soldier's death
which is like they're about to decapitate him like
kind of long ways which is a smart
move. He gives you some distance from
the dude. He's like, nah, give me the thing where
you like you put the blade right on my
neck and it's like all right if that's what you want
big guy. Right. Give me the
180 AD Civ Kvork
method of just stabbing down
my neck.
Oh, man, and he just
flips this sword. It's so
fucking great, and he's like, the frost.
Sometimes it makes the blade
stick, and he just breaks
it open and slices this dude's
face. So good. This face cut
is wonderful. He throws
the sword at one of these other
Pictorians on a horse. I love the shot
of the sword just flying at this guy.
Yeah. It's great. And this is, I mean,
Crow's great in this. This is a great. I mean,
I don't think of this. It's your classic Oscar for the wrong movie. Obviously, it should
be the insider. Right. Oh, boy. Without a doubt. But you know, you're right. I mean,
I like this movie a bit, but like, you're right. This is not the one to leap awards on.
I mean, I think like, yeah, especially you're looking, you're like, oh, man, we totally fucking
biffed last year, you guys. Like, that was the insider. That was the one. We got to say we're
sorry to Russell. Yeah. Yeah, you got to make up for that one. By the way, Hollywood has yet to do it. I
know they're making bad decisions left and right.
You have yet to fully
harness Fat Crow.
And I don't know how you are not
doing this. I mean, unhinged.
Unhinged. Thank you.
Unhinged. Thank you. It's very good.
Has anyone seen Land of Bad or is it
just me? I have not. I haven't heard of that.
Have you seen it, Chris? I have not.
I know what it is. I think you guys should check
it out because he's just like, he's like
it's Big Crow being a
big drone operator. I mean,
the politics are all screwy, but I
actually think he's good in the role.
in me. I'm looking at Russell Crow's
filmography. Looking at Fat Crow's
photography, obviously. Thank you.
He was in WrestleMania
39 as Father Gabriel
Amorth. Yes, he came in.
No, they did a Pope's
exorcist's thing at WrestleMania 39.
Yes, they did. That's amazing. I had no
idea. That's my boy.
That's my beautiful boy.
You know, he's not
Fat Russell Crow in that poker face movie, but
I'm telling you guys, that is a stupid
city secret movie that you should definitely
definitely check out.
He's also going to be in this year
slash last year slash two years
ago is Craven the Hunter.
Oh yeah. Finally. Yes. That's right.
He's a big Papa Craven.
That's right. He's the father of
Craven?
Yeah. Wow.
And dude, you better believe he's doing like
a pseudo fucking Russian accent in it.
He doesn't get a shit. He was having a great time.
Hell yeah.
So what's going on? What's this movie here?
I'm looking he's got something else
this year that's maybe
already sleeping dogs?
I don't know what that is.
It's him, Karen Gillen.
Oh, Tommy Flanagan, who's also in this movie.
There you go.
It says, an ex-homicide detective with memory loss, oh, Jesus,
is forced to solve a brutal murder
only to uncover chilling secrets from his forgotten past.
Wait, what? I forgot my past.
Well, this is, what's weird about Crowe is
this is sort of his miracle run, obviously.
Like, it's the insider, it's gladiator, proof of life,
beautiful mind, Cinderella man, master of commander.
I don't think you can leave the destruction of the Meg Ryan Dennis Quaid marriage out of that run.
That's a good point.
You need to, that has to be filed in between there somewhere.
That was just amazing work.
Incredible stuff.
I should say it starts at 97 with LA Confidential.
Yes.
That's his big American brain.
He's incredible in that.
Great, great.
For what it's worth, for what it's worth, in the circles that this movie is for, mystery Alaska is a big deal.
Yes.
Oh, really?
From 99.
I still have not seen that one.
Well, because, I mean, it's a hockey movie.
So it's like you gotta, you gotta give a shit about hockey movies.
It's a very hockey.
I mean, I like Miracle.
I think, yeah.
No, I mean, honestly, you might, if you like Miracle, you might want to check out Mystery Last.
It's kind of interesting, though, because he was a little older when he broke because he was like a full-on movie star in Australia first.
I would, I would argue that Quick in the Dead in 95 was also good.
A big, big role for him, breaking through.
Him, Sharon Stone.
He's the villain against fucking Denzo Washington.
I love that.
the more distance you put
I know he's good in it
the more distance you put
between new stuff
and romper stomper is probably
for the better
which I have seen
but I guess because he was older
I feel like that miracle mile
ends a little early
for some reason
you know what I mean
and then he just sort of turns
into fat crow at some point
he plumps up
there's not as many rolls
for like a big old daddy
a big daddy
I think the last time
like body of lies
with Decaprio
and another Royal Ridd production.
That's the blood.
What are they doing in that movie?
It's like CIA or something.
CIA, I think it's in Iraq, like, during the war.
Yes, I actually did not see that one yet.
You would love that one.
It's a good movie.
It's a good movie.
Yeah, it's a really fun movie.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah, the filmography is just wild on this fella, right?
And then Robin Hood, which apparently that Robin Hood movie was originally pitched as like Nottingham.
Yes.
The perspective of the sheriff of Nottingham.
which had been an interesting thing.
Really a good idea.
I think he was supposed to play, Nottingham,
but I guess you got retooled to him playing Robin Hood,
which is just weird.
And Oscar Isaac is like the evil,
Prince John.
And I need to rewatch it.
I remember not like him.
I'm sure it's very good.
But, yeah, so, like, this is where he gets his Oscar,
which is totally fine.
I mean, he got some good stuff right here.
Like, all this stuff about him, like,
praying for his family and, like,
all those moments.
We have a little bit of here where he's camping out
and he's been injured in the battle a little bit.
And so he's camping out.
There's an amazing shot right here
and I'm pretty sure it's all real of him.
It's like this big, wide, vast, like panoramic shot
of a mountain range.
And in like the lower left is Russell Crow sitting
like by the fire as the sun.
Like he basically rides the horse until like sun up to sundown.
The horse falls over.
He sets up camp and there's
this fucking stunning shot of him
just sitting by the fire and this beautiful
mountains in the background. It's awesome. You know what I
also love is him and his civvies, like
this brown potato sack.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And he gets
he doesn't shave anymore. Like he looks
overgrown. He gets some little scruff on him.
Yeah. And his hair goes out a little bit.
He doesn't have quite the Caesar
haircut. But he's just too
late. He gets there.
He gets there like the day of. I love
I love that seeing that kid get run down by
a horse. That's what my favorite thing is.
it's brutal because, like, he sees all the guys coming towards the, you know, the house and
whatever. And he's like, oh, father, father, father. And these fucking Roman centaurians just run this
kid down. Oh, Jesus. If you divorce that from context and just play that clip, it would be as
funny as the Mac and Me video. Yep.
100%. It's about on par. I burst out laughing this morning. Because, like, in, in context,
also, Walker said I have AIDS.
Isn't really that funny
But if you take it out of the Walker, Texas
Ranger movie and just play the Haley Joel
Osmet clip, it's very funny.
Yes.
He also has, Maximus has a great
like, because he's sitting around and he's praying
about the family and he's back on the horse or whatever.
And you see him have this moment where he realizes,
oh, like,
that little turd probably sent dudes
to my house already. And he's got
a great like, oh fuck.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, fuck.
Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit.
Oh, fuck.
And look, we don't see, we just see the feet, the charred little feetlands on least the kid and the mother.
It's bad.
And it's crazy, too, because the feet are dangling and, you know.
They don't know it.
Well, they're dead.
They don't know they're dangling nothing.
I mean, their last moments, though, they probably did know it was happening.
Right.
Your family's going to feel the dangle right before they pass.
I want to talk to these at-home crucifying company guys because the feet are not attached to anything.
And if I know my Jesus crucifixion,
that motherfucker got one right through both feet simultaneously.
I think that that they gave him like the royal treatment.
Like when you go to the car wash and you're like,
give me the number five like I want all of it.
But then the cue is long so they make it a little quicker.
Now we're just doing the arms to hang them up.
All you need is the arms.
It's close enough.
It sort of looks like a cross.
Am I wrong?
You're not going to give the crown.
The crown of thorns is just,
again, that's the number five.
The number five comes with the crowd of thorns.
Oh, man, forget about it.
You want the number five.
You want the crown of thorns.
You want the INRI up there.
We'll write that in for you.
I can give you the number six.
We pierced your side with the spear.
You get to decide which side it's on, all right?
You can decide which side the spear goes.
Do you want them to cup the blood when it's pouring?
Okay, you want the cup.
Okay, that's the number seven.
All right.
I just talked to my manager, and he said that you can get the crown of thorns with the number four,
but you're going to have to pay extra.
You have to get it as a combo.
You understand.
And you've got to get three different things in there.
One, you can't, you can't just buy a single issue, you understand.
You got to go inside, buy some fake tattoos out of that stupid vending machine.
Then you could get the crown, yeah.
You know, us directors, we always talk.
We always take tips from one another.
And actually, the foot shot, it's a famous shot from my gladi.
Hi, there, I'm Richard Scott.
And I was talking to a wonderful director named Quentin Tarantino when I was making this film.
And he said, feet are like characters, you understand?
They can be stinky and dirty, and they can just wiggle around.
And I thought that was real.
And so I thought, you know, the last thing he sees is the feet.
That's their last bit of character.
Amazing.
It's just, well, I guess I brought that all up to just say that I thought they were hanged.
Yes.
Because you just see feet kind of floating.
But there's no sway.
Yeah.
But then he says later on,
They were crucified.
Yeah, that's, you learned later in the movie, what the deal is.
But he's getting up there.
We've got, and I think this may have one of the Oscar, you guys.
We got fucking snot all over the place for him.
Dude, you're getting snot on the dead feet.
And you're just falling asleep at the grave of your dead wife and son.
And I'm like, you clearly do not give a shit if you live or die.
Isn't that a passout, though?
Because he's, like, wounded.
He is wounded.
I think he, like, just drops.
I believe so, yeah.
because he rode all as fast as he could
to see if they were dead
and sure enough they are.
Oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh shit, fuck, oh shit.
Which one of them is dead?
And then he's taken.
You're about to be taken.
You're about to be taken as a slave
by the Roman Empire.
He's taken and you're going to meet
Jimon Hansu as Juba.
Well, what was going on was he went
with the grocery store, you understand.
And then when he came back,
there was a zip tie on the side of his horse.
Oh, yeah.
Yep, that's a sign.
And that was it.
That's it. That's it.
That's it. He got taken just like that.
Happens every day.
I saw that.
puppet show the
sound of fury
a bunch of puppets
lights and stuff
shadow play oh yes
that that lantern
show really opened my eyes
to all the child abduction
that's going on around Rome
but yes he is taken by
and he entered
a great gym on Hansu
and the great finale
for Oliver Reed
he's so good at this movie
amazing
I love this I mean this is a way
you want to introduce your character
You start talking about how he's pissed
and wants his money back because you gave him
queer giraffe. Yes. That is
a way to introduce a character. It is
amazing. This fucking
complaining that this guy is
doing here. And this is, we're told at
this point, this is in Zucabar
a Roman province. And yeah, this is
Oliver Reed as Proximo.
And it's just like, those giraffes
won't fuck, you sold me, queer
giraffes. Yeah, we're going back and forth about
he's got some new slaves. You know,
You'll love them, blah, blah, blah.
And he's about to pop this guy's nuts.
He's got a real grip on him down there.
Nice.
Did you guys see who this fella is here?
No.
The nutty.
The guy playing the giraffe salesman.
He's getting balls squows right here.
That's the nutty.
The actor is Omid Jalali.
And he's the dude from the mummy just a year prior to this.
He's like the jailer that's holding Brendan Fraser at the beginning.
and she convinces him to like let him out and they can go find the treasure or whatever it's the same
the bugs get in him yes yep and according to him uh what do you call there alvarid really grabbed
his nuts like really had his nuts and advice oh jeez I love that no CGI just straight up not grabbing
up your dick without yeah if you if it is truly your final days you know what I let it go
you know it's fine I agree that this guy's probably drunk you know and you
Look, this is a guy.
He's living the role.
He's in, you know, the brood.
The devils for crying out loud.
Pit the pendulum.
I mean, the guy's just been, he was in a ton of great movies.
And it's like, I don't know, man, if that guy wants to squeeze my balls and it's going to make the scene better, I trust him.
He's a legend.
Absolutely.
Let him squeeze your balls.
Well, apparently he was like so on the outs with the alcoholism at this point.
Like, they had to beg to take him.
or like people were on his bath he wouldn't obviously because he had
what's like they basically his thing was like I'll only drink on the weekends
yes you know wait a minute what's what's this in this IV this smells like yep
potato liquor okay Oliver that's enough all right of course he died let him have his medicine
he died on his off day at a bar and he saw a bunch of sailors and they challenged him
to a drinking contest or had a heart
attack. Drinking himself
to death with sailors. You
can't drink with the sailors at
your age, fella, you know?
And he was 61. This is, look at him in this
movie, it's a hard 61.
Oh, yeah. Dude, he was only 61
years old. Yes, that's. Holy
Shit. He went out doing what he
loves, okay? You leave him alone.
That's right. Kids just
smoke weed.
I mean, like, you know, a cocktail,
you know, of course. I'm not, I'm not,
You do both, dude. You should do these days. Everybody remembers him as Lonegan in the Sting, too, right?
Of course. Of course we do. I do remember. He's really fun at Tommy, which I just rewatched a couple months ago.
You know, I've still never seen it. It's a fun little movie. It's not great, but it's fun.
I mean, nothing. I've seen Tommy Boy.
Nothing is going to beat that devil's performance. That is just off the fucking charts.
And the brood is a great movie. We should do it on the WLM feed. It's,
But I want a spinoff.
He's not in and enough.
Honestly, like, he's doing crazy Charles Xavier slash cult shit.
And the brood.
A touch unexplored.
The brood reminds me of how I grew up.
It's very similar.
I mean, but, like, look, you can't, I agree with you, Steve.
But, I mean, you need to have a little bit of boring husband.
You'd have to have, like, some nice, good portions of boring husband.
He is, he's stiff Canadian.
So, yes, he's proximo.
he gets all of these slaves, which includes
Jew and Huntsu. Rolf Mueller
is one of these slaves. Yes.
Yes. You might remember him from
Best of the Best, too, as Brackus,
owner and operator of the Coliseum.
I was going to say,
more of a beer fest man, myself
with this fellow.
Oh, is this guy in Beerfest? I think he's one of the
Germans in Beer Fest. He's friends with Schwarzenegger.
I think he pops up in a lot of stuff.
Later on, when, you know, when we finally get, you know,
into the real deal Coliseum
and it's like, oh, we'll redo
the Battle of Carthage. I'm like,
that guy can't be on that team. He's going to
win. He's eight feet tall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And made out of muscle.
Yeah, not a lot of
legit casting for these historical
reenactments they're doing here.
Now we're in like
backwater gladiator games.
There's a great montage about like,
you know, a lot of you are going to just die.
we expect you all just die immediately you know what I mean
when you die and you will
it will be the sound of
that you hear
and he's just like clapping politely
gladiators I salute you he does the big speech
for them as your mother was at the beginning
I shall be at your end that whole thing it's really nice
yeah it's a beautiful little moment nicely
nicely said by him but Maximus
refuses to participate in Gladiator Academy
because they have Gladiator Academy
and he's like it's
Who's sucking my car
Maximus?
Who put this
glue in the shampoo bottle?
And then oh my God
Classic prank
Gman Huntsu
an actor with more dignity in the universe
but it's just doing like car
noise and shit
that is more or less
More or less what he's doing in those Shazam movies.
Oh, dude, that's the second Shazam film, wow.
I hope he got made, I hope he made $2 trillion in that movie.
Me too.
He did not.
Damn it.
Look out, Maximus.
There is a tiger behind you.
Roar, roo.
It's just, it's and shadows.
Yeah, Frank Welker was in Gladiator.
Look at the credits.
but so yeah
they're but yes
but even in his
in his first battle he does
he realized he's going to do it
because he does the thing that he does
before the battle which is grab the
the dirt and like rub it on his hands
kind of get him right for what's going on
his whole ritual there
this like this initial arena fight is fun
because it's like the lower budget version
of the Coliseum so you have like a
cow man like not a full
metal thing but like a cow face
this is great love that shit
and they're just you know like it's kind of great
because like you know this is
proximo is
was a once a coliseum gladiator
now it's like when you when you're
out of the WWF and now you're just doing regional
shit you know what I mean you're doing backyard
wrestling matches exactly yeah no
it's definitely like a fucking
lower tier wrestling
story for the start of like
his journey back to the top and it's awesome
it's like yes we're not going
going to be out on the main territory there.
That's where Vince McManichus runs everything.
We have to stay down here with the swamp people.
And yes, that guy's just wearing a real bull's head that he cut off moments ago.
They let you know that you can see yourself on screen, fellas.
Don't worry about it.
There is a guy who's pissing himself before he is quickly dispatched.
Dude, this is a coliseum.
Amazing moment because we have the gladiator equivalent of like a Jerry Seinfeld
getting disgusted by something because like you see this dude he's like a little weaner
he just starts pissing himself and it cuts to you're looking at russell crow and maximus is like
he makes his face like ugh it kind of like takes a step back i got to this guy i got to be like hey
can i talk to proxamas i'm not a gladiator can i can i clean your house you know what i mean
like yeah i'm a slave i get it totally slave for the rest of my life what do you what do you need
me to do you need a clown to run around and do that do you know exactly
stuff in while
the fight's happening. Like those
rodeo things I hear about in America,
180 AD America.
Tell me what you want me to suck
is the question. I'm not going to make
it through. Number one. I'm not going to make it through my
first gladiator thing, which he does not.
It's actually him and Ralph Mueller are
attached to each other. And it's
kind of amazing. He dies immediately.
And Ralph Mueller just cuts the hand off.
That's the end of that.
Now, what if I'm not much of a fighter,
you see,
but what if I was one of the guys that I walked with the gladiators into the arena
and I was responsible for getting all the audience very excited when the gladiator comes into
the circle what do you think about that kind of like like a hype man thousands of years
what if I invented the first water boy these guys need to hydrate I can true I can go to the
trough and get little little vases for them and whatever they need now I do want to get people
hyped and everything, but I really
should be straight with you. I don't know how to
rap. I don't know.
Rhyme, scheme is just not my
thing, really. So if we could just go like,
hey, good job, everybody. If that
would work for you, then, you know, that's
yeah, maybe. There's actually one trick
I could do, Proxima. What do you think about this?
I can raise my voice
up and say things like, oh, no,
here comes the mighty
Maximus. Oh,
the Spaniard.
Look out for the danger.
a Spaniard.
Well, they hit it immigrants back then, too.
Proximo puts a curse on him.
He just looks like that afterwards.
The great Paul Bearer.
He, but yeah, they win their first match pretty heartily.
Proximo's like, say, you know.
He's hot.
We got some money here with this guy.
And we're kind of going back and forth with basically that Comodius's first trip to
the Senate does not go terribly well.
he's telling Derek Jacoby
to go fuck himself essentially
he doesn't really it's almost like a
Harry and the Henderson's like get out of here
nobody wants you in the Senate anymore go on
go home he's playing with his sword
and like I will cut your head off
if you tell me to do something again
you get a little bit of like I guess it's
supposed to be is it like
Commodus is like coronation or whatever
where he's coming in like he goes to Rome
and this like a bunch of people are yelling at him
and like calling him usurper
and the crowd there's like a
go away, chance.
You'll never rule us.
Yeah, it's a tough one.
Pretty awesome.
Get ready for that in January.
This is like, you get some of this Rome CGI right here, but a lot of, I was noticing
a lot of this movie is still matte paintings, which looks nice.
We got some matte paintings here and there, but we do to make like the city of Rome,
you know, like the fun downtown, where the Coliseum is.
Those are, that's, it's a lot of digital stuff there.
Yeah.
But he's basically, he realizes, like, to control Rome, you've got to control the mob itself.
I call it love.
I am going to be their daddy.
You know what?
There are too many books, and scrolls, they're boring.
Everybody knows it.
Scrolls, we hate them.
We hate them so much.
He is bitching to Derek Jacoby.
He's like, I don't understand why all these people who work for me have to sit around and read and learn things.
you should be doing stuff
why aren't you doing things
isn't there a group of people
we could just get them to hate
isn't that easy
how do you do
who do you got here
we got rid of the Germans
fuck
you know what
you told me
there are people who have plague
perfect
we hate the plague havers
that's what we hate
because he says like
I call it love
I'm their father
I will embrace them
to my chest or whatever
and then yeah
Derek Jacoby's like
you ever embrace someone
dying of the plague sire
and he's like
you ever interrupt me again
I'm gonna kill you
The tension is there
And she has to break it up
And she's basically like she's trying to
You know hold everything together
Like hey you know
No he's a good guy
He's just tired
And this is like his big idea
They're like all right so you know
Common is what's going on man like what do you think we should do
You're the new emperor and he's like
How about get this
So hear me out
To honor my dead father who I definitely did not murder
150 straight days of games
yeah now that's a baseball season
and you got people fucking people check it out
people are on their phones in the stands
yeah except for that one guy with the pencil
and the whole thing and pull it out the board
oh yeah he's putting every fucking pitch down
absolutely really appreciate those baseball nerds man
because that is a level of
fandom I just can't achieve it's just a huge
commitment yep no it's
it's a lot it's really a lot but he's uh yeah he's just sucking shit like in this meeting and
this is yeah this is where it's all about the people of rome are my children blah blah blah 150 days
of games the beating heart of rome is not the marble of the senate it's the sand of the
coliseum he will bring them death and they will love him for this is when jacobie is having a
very bitchy lunch with his friend and oh yeah talking shit about all this stuff and like gnoshing on
some bread. That's awesome. I love a good
like wine, you get some wine, you have a little
bitch fest in the afternoon.
Totally. Bitch sash, total bitch sash.
Absolutely. No, you know what?
No, we're going to get another order
of the olive oil and vinegar
and the bread. We're going to have another
one of those. Did you see what he was wearing?
Come on. I will say, oh man, I do
have to say, Oliver reads
a wardrobe in this
phenomenal, that what they got this guy in.
He's got a beautiful
like Cerulean
a head wrap at one point
just looks phenomenal
it's really great
looks cozy
that is it's yeah
it's Gracchus Derek Jacoby
talking with that rotten
fucking Falco man
so they yeah they have that
you know he'll bring them death
and they'll love him for it we cut to
we're talking about death we cut to
fucking Russell Crowe
just in the cage sharpening the sword
he gets called out and immediately
just starts fighting
and he makes short work of these fucking dudes
this is right out of the trailer
I remember this when he gets the double swords
going on now you're fucked buddy
he's able to decapitate that boar face
the big boy mask guy
it's great but this is what
Oliver Reed has to pull him aside it's like dude
you're doing like the Ken Shamrock thing like sure
you got all the moves where's the
where's the Padesh
yeah yeah Ken Shamrock man
not much of a personality on the world's dangerous man
exactly dude he had all the moves
he just didn't have it you know
Maximus you must listen to me
a man who has a pet hyena
I know what I'm talking about
that's fucking hyena rules
it's great but this is the fight that after
he dispatches all these gladiators
he's like are you not entertained he throws
a sword up at the rich people
is this why you're not here he spits
on the ground like a spaniard
great opening for that Jay Z song
on the black album I forget which one it is
I feel like in the crowd is like
are you not I am at
no I am entertained
am I not and am
Is he asking us?
Wait a second.
Is he entertained or are we?
Let's look up with a jumbo trotron.
That should help us out.
You know what?
I'm not not entertained.
No, I am.
Oh, fuck.
During the seventh inning stretch,
the Coliseum asks you and invites you to figure out if you're entertained.
We're getting a yes.
We're hearing yes from the crowd.
If we're entertained and he isn't, then hold on.
Hang, all right, hang on a second.
But what is his definition of entertainment?
That's the other thing we haven't figured out.
By the way, coming up after the game,
a puppet show about a fat guy with a pretty wife.
Tune in right here after the game.
The first one.
The first one, yeah.
Coming up after the ball game,
it's a new puppet show about a fat guy who hates his hot wife
and is tired of having sex with her for some reason.
And next Sunday, we are going to premiere
Who can make a robe?
We can't wait for you to see this fantastic new competition show.
Yeah, and then after dark, of course, the lantern shown the X-Files about Xerxes life.
Remember him?
Xerxes from, you know, they fought the Greeks.
The 300 guy.
Yeah, you know, that's late night show here after the game.
But, yeah, this is, Proxima calls him to.
his apartment after this and he's like you know uh the the the act is being asked to go on the road
here we have been invited to play the coliseum baby he gives this whole thing about like this is i was
once a gladiator the emperor gave him this wooden sword you knew marcus aurellius you assail you
did not shut up no i swear i did no you know what let me you know what he's in canada right now
okay so you i can't really get him here to tell you that but i met him in canada it is so funny
oliver reed giving this delivery because he quips right back and he's like i didn't say i knew him
i said he touched me on the shoulder once that's great uh but yeah so he says he gives
maximus the best most important uh tip for being a gladiator right here he's like look man
it doesn't matter if the emperor loves you the crowd has to love you if the crowd loves you
you will gain your freedom
because the emperor will not be able to kill you
because you're such a beloved figure
and he don't want to look like an asshole.
Unless you want to have a career as a heel.
You want to be a heel, on the other hand,
then yes.
Let the fate flow through you.
Well, the Arunton Entertainment
is a little stone coldy, a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
but so he do we get to the Coliseum now he's
he realizes somebody might recognize me
so I'm going to wear this extra cool
fucking metal mask which I love actually
it's fucking boss
it's the MF Doom mask the MFU mask is the best
it looks so cool
and this is the
it's going to be the Battle of Carthage
and it's kind of amazing because like
what you call it like Proxima was really
exciting I got my great gladiators here
but like they're kind of set up as jobbers
year for the Battle of Carthage and it's like
Yep, yep
We know how this is gonna go
They're not gonna make it
It's like yeah
This big fat guy's like well too fucking bad
You know
What I'm you're paying me fucking nothing
And I'm giving you tiger food
I like
That's not a good thing for me buddy
Uh
You know
We are introduced to this
This big fat guy MC Cassius by the way
Because he's he's telling Proxima to fuck off
Because Proxima's like
You know
You bring me all the way
here and you just want to kill off all my best gladiators like i better get a fucking better rate for
that and this dude does a real you'll get the same and like it yes totally yeah totally but did you
guys catch who this is he's unrecognizable in this movie this the guy playing cassie is the big
fat emcee with the makeup and the wig and the fucking big tweezed eyebrows is david hemings who's the
guy from blow up and uh barborella barborella i always laugh at because his character is dildonno
And then he's also in, I believe, Deep Red is the Jallo that he's in also.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So this, it was kind of, I was like, he looks kind of familiar.
And I looked it up and it was like, dear God.
I definitely, for a very long time, had him saying,
Barbarian, oh, stuck in my head for a while.
He's good in this, says this guy.
He's good.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, oh, it is, just to confirm there, it is, he's in the 1975's Deep Red,
the Argento movie.
Incredible movie.
But yeah, so here comes the
barbarian horde.
My God, it's a barbarian
horde, king, can you believe?
I mean, emperor, can you believe it?
And, you know, Maximus is like,
hey, who here was in the army?
And everyone's like, me.
And it's like, okay.
So we know army shit.
We, you know, we fight together,
we'll win, which they do.
And it's a really cool.
The sequence rules, you know,
a lot of that, like,
I love a joined shield scenario.
always a big fan yeah they're joining all those shields together repelling those arrows and then like moving them strategically like when the chariot comes to like kick that shit up into the air that's pretty red and you know who else is a hiding in a bunch of shield formations everybody in lord of the rings this was another moment where i was like there's elves shooting those arrows at them i can't wait for maximus to get the ring to mount pompey when the uh when the the the cart flips
over. I love it so much because
all these carts have the cool
like spikes that stick out of them.
I just realized it's Vesuvius.
Right? Poppe was just
the town. It was like, that's like the
Frankenstein's monster thing. You could understand.
Yeah, no, totally.
The whole like spikes
on the wheel thing reminded me
last week,
maybe a couple weeks ago, I was driving back
from Jersey.
I went out to a
liquor store out there. I'm coming
I'm coming back and there's a little
it was like an early afternoon on a Friday
so like the bridge traffic on the way back into the city
shouldn't have been bad but there was a little bit of a backup
but I'm like what's going on? I get to
like right past the toll area
where like you're all sort of it's basically
folks at home if you haven't ever driven
across the George Washington Bridge from New Jersey
to New York City I mean try
your best not to but it's basically once you
cross the toll it's like 12 lanes
converging into four
so it can be like kind of fucked up but at this
moment the the big hubbub and the delay was because there was a big ass tractor trailer that had
those fucking tire spike things and wouldn't you know it a tesla drove too close to it and this truck
destroyed this car all i could think about is in back to the future too when marty's like oh we should
just land the delorean on biff and doc's like oh he's driving a 1940 whatever we're in a you know
1980, DeLorean, he'd cut through us like butter.
Like, that's what happened.
Like, this, this tractor trailer just destroyed this piece of shit, Tesla, and it was amazing.
We need more of these spikes on these wheels.
Spikes!
I hate spikes!
It was like I was watching gladiatorial combat on the road, man.
It was awesome.
But, yeah, Maximus, at one point, saves Hagen is the dude from Best of the Best.
Right, Ralph Mueller.
But I think my favorite kill in this movie happens in this scene
because one of the carriages that the horses are, you know,
racing everybody around is this awesome lady that's just an archer
and she's sniping all these dudes left and right.
And she gets fucking knocked off.
And the spike, the trailers, tractor trailer,
the wagon wheels spike or whatever just cuts this woman and has.
Oh, great.
And you got like other, you got,
backup women archers that are also coming out
and Maximus ride around on this horse
cutting their throats. Oh yeah,
just murdered ladies left and right.
There's a, yeah.
There's a gladiator version
of the kill in King of New York
where the guy meets the fire hydrant.
Like this,
one of the carts is like going straight against the wall
and the lady's head is like right out front
and whoop right against it.
Oh, it's awesome.
Just like a fucking grape.
It's so good.
Well, Comedus and the kid run down to look at this, you know.
You do have these classic shots of Joaquin reacting to,
they feel like trailer moments of him, like, responding to the horror we're seeing.
And he's at first a little annoyed that, you know, obviously the Battle of Carth is just that exactly,
he's like, I don't remember this going on in the Battle of Carthage, hello.
And it's like, okay, it's a little pissed, but then, you know, obviously he's going to go with the crowd.
The crowd loves it.
So he now loves it.
I think I'll meet him this Spaniard.
And yeah, this is like he's refusing to fucking take the helmet off.
You know, it's like, the emperor wants to meet you.
I'm at the emperor's service.
Maybe I should put an accent.
I'm a Mandalorian, okay?
Does anybody have a marker?
I want a fake mustache in here.
Yeah, exactly.
He takes the arrow under his, like, arm there.
He's going to try to kill him.
but this doesn't come to pass.
He turns his back on Comedus
and that's like, what?
That's a bad situation.
It's a big no-no.
Then he reveals himself
and it's like,
Combinus is in a rock,
between a rock and a hard place here
because the crowd loves it.
Crowd fucking loves it.
My name is Maximus,
commander of the armies to the north,
father to a murdered son,
husband, to a murdered wife
and I will have vengeance
in this life or the next.
The crowd loves them also.
It's live, live, live, live, live.
Yes, the owner of a ruined son.
farm uh yes owner of a ruin farm i mean the owner of of many a horse well that's what this movie has
kind of entered that same like uh not quite the same as scarface but that hyper masculine
arena like they all think they are maximus like in their heads like people are watching this
because i read somewhere like this little speech he gives the commonist is like one of the
most loved pieces of dialogue ever like by who assholes like some there was like an imdb
poll or something they did oh so assholes well yes mostly assholes but like they all got
into this and but you know in their heads because like they didn't actually go through what
fucking maximus went through so they're just saying like a husband of a divorced wife
a father of an unseen son yeah father to a son who hates me older of unvaccinated semen
Possessor of tens and tens of DVDs.
Well, actually, I mean, this scans, if you remember Sopranos, this was the great Joey Pants
Ralphie's favorite movie.
He would always quote it.
Like, it was like, they both for like loserdom, but also like probably late gay stuff
too, you know?
Perfect.
I mean, it's perfect for Ralphie.
I mean, that I forgot all about that.
That's so good.
Was Ralphie supposed to be a closet case on that show?
Did they play it around with that a little bit?
They never came out one way or another, but there was a little bit of that going on.
Was he around at the same time of the show's veto? Did they do it that way?
Yeah, he didn't have anything to do with it, but it was always just sort of like he would, again, you quote gladiated this much.
It's like, what's that guy's deal?
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so everyone is shitting their pants over this reveal.
It's kind of awesome. Like, Lucilla's totally shut.
My God, it's Maximus. Oh, my God.
Maximus is at Somerslam.
Maximus is at Somerslam
It's crazy
It's like if like, you know
Once they fired David Petraeus
If he was just fighting to the death on TV
Dude
Give it a couple months
He should
Yeah yeah
He should absolutely do that
My God
Maximus is at Somerslam
And the Pope's Exorcist is at WrestleMania
My God
Who could have imagined
That this would happen
A Coliseemanium
He just spit in the face of
Emperor MacMann.
MacManamus.
Yeah, Vince McNamis, absolutely.
So now his days are numbered.
Wouldn't you know it?
Lucilla, Connie Nielsen wants to go see him in his quarters.
She basically is like, listen, there's kind of a resistance thing.
We're getting together here.
Just the beginnings of one.
I got a buddy named Jared Jacoby.
He'd love to meet you.
It's not sexual.
I guarantee.
He gives her some shit, though.
She's like, hey, man, I've been like a prisoner in fear too.
you know, I'm living in terror every day with this
fucking guy, you know? Yeah, totally. I mean,
true. She's like, she's like, I live in fear every day.
My son is the heir to the throne. Like,
what the fuck is this asshole going to do to my kid?
My son was innocent. So is mine.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
Must my son die too for you to trust me?
Yes, yes, your son
is dead. But my son must
deal with a creepy uncle who is always
looking at him when he sleeps.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We skipped
over, but there is that scene where he's just
watching this little boy's sleep and I was like
those are some busy fingers.
Yep. Yep. Not good.
No, I was
yep. Well, much like corn and
limp biscuit, he looks to keep it all in
the family. Yes, right.
Yes. And of course, you have to
have the honorary limp biscuit.
It's a Roman custom,
of course, Lucius.
It is very funny to me
in this scene. Like, yeah, she goes to see him or whatever.
He is chained to the
wall like a werewolf. And it's like,
Like he can only walk so far close to her before the shackles sort of stop him.
And I was like, is there full moon happening tonight?
Like this is wherewolf behavior.
No, but I think this is the idea is that these dudes are getting fucked on the reg.
Rich ladies are like, I want to see this gladi.
I want to see gladiator 45 over there.
Yeah.
Banging him.
Oh, yeah.
No, I didn't think he's actually a were.
No, I know that.
Making a joke for the purposes of a comedy show.
But you are right.
There is a line where it's like, oh, yeah, they like to come down and have.
have their pick of the Gladiator.
It's their version of Fleet Week when the games are going on.
Like, it's just as many as you can.
Rotten Rids getting a fucking phone call from Bob Guccione.
And he's like, no, you cannot direct extra scenes from my Gladiator movie.
I know what that means.
But yeah, she's trying to convince him in this scene.
Like, I am not down with what's going on.
You know, she's, the mob is Rome.
That happens in this scene.
Right.
And today I saw a slave become more powerful.
than the emperor.
Great line that I believe is also in the trailer.
Yes.
And then it's like, you know, so I'm going to do whatever I can to help you.
And he's basically like, you can help me by losing my fucking number.
Yeah.
He's like, you know, forget you ever knew me.
Yeah.
Don't you dare call MXVI.
That's phone numbers back.
Is the next gladiator moment the great Svenolfsson bit?
It is the tiger fight and it starts with the
the coolest game
I've ever seen
where these dudes
it's because we go back
to Gladiator Camp
and these dudes
are playing like
Oh snake
Trouble I guess
What the fuck was that?
Snake boggle or shit
It's like a cobra
teasing game
That's what you're doing
You've got a little wooden barrel
And it's filled with like
A bunch of gold baby teeth
Or whatever
And you turn it over
And spill all your baby teeth
all over the table. And then there's a snake
who's watching all the players and you have to
pick up your baby teeth and get
them back in the barrel without getting bit by this
snake. What an insane thing
that looks awesome. Rattlesnake roulette.
Ah!
That's what they call it in Arizona.
Right. Yeah, this is different. This might be an
ASP play. I don't know.
It's fun getting bit by a cobra.
And so, yeah, basically him, Jim and Huntsu and Ralph Mueller are having a good time here.
There's a fun bit about, like, they test his food.
Oh, yeah, is this poison chili or not, says Ralph Mueller?
But yes, the next thing.
So because, you know, oh, my God, we've got this guy.
He's the best fucking glad he ever seen.
How are we going to put him down?
Why don't we get a guy out of retirement for 10 years who's just fucking fat now?
Old.
We want old. Let's go for old.
It's like, oh, man, how are we going to stop this new fucking basketball player?
Let's get Michael Jordan back in there.
No, his knees are shit.
It's been fucking 10 years.
Oh, my God.
He's not the top of his game.
I know exactly how the Yankees could have won the World Series a couple weeks back.
Bring Donnie baseball back.
Where the fuck was Mattingly?
And you know what?
We got to bring back DiMaggio.
Oh, he's a corpse.
Oh, I didn't remember that.
I'm sorry.
Sir, most of these players have been dead for 90 years.
Remember that fucking Smithers line is?
But fight them.
Fight them in the ring.
But this is a great Sven Olitha.
Tigris of gall.
He was the only undefeated combatant, by the way.
I love.
Which I guess is a selling point, even though he's a big back guy.
Well, he's retired.
He's very thick.
He was back on his farm, you know.
Flowering his wife and fields, drinking wine, have grapes and the whole nine yards.
But I love this look.
I love the mask.
Oh, the mask is great.
Always loves his mask.
I mean, I do like that they also make this look.
Like, Ridley clearly knows what he's doing here.
Like, they have them passing out bread the way you do, like, T-shirt cannons at, like, monster truck rallies are throwing bread at these people.
It's amazing.
You know, Sven loves to talk about being a gladiator being directed by the great Ridley Scott.
I was going to be directed by Ridley Scott and alien, you understand.
but I was going to do the John Hurt role,
but they realized my pecks were too strong
that even an alien wouldn't be able to burst through it, you understand?
So then they got little John Hurt in there.
I was saying to him, I was like,
look, the xenomorphs blood might be able to get through the hull,
but it ain't going to get through these biceps, buddy.
Of course, I secured my dream
and was directed by Sir Ridley Scott
when I played a winemaker in a good year.
Yep, let me taste that for a second before you take your own ship.
Yeah, that's a good year.
Oh, yeah, here's some Baroro for you.
Here it comes.
Yep, smells pretty good.
Better chug the whole bottle just to be saying.
I guess, hey, Sly, you prefer a table of red, right?
Like under the table because you're looking at poo and blood or whatever.
Yeah, man, that's not funny, man.
I drove you to that gladiator audition.
This year is a Peanuts Noir.
It's a crime wine, kind of.
I told you for the last time, I'm not paying you any gas money.
I was like, where's the audition happening, Jesse?
And you were like, well, it's right up the road a little bit, shot.
And then I was like, okay, cool.
And we got it in my car.
And it took 75 minutes.
All right, so, no, I'm not paying gas.
You could get ass or grass.
Your choice, buddy.
Well, I guess you're facing that situation, man.
It's got to be grass.
I'm not paying.
And I'm not paying you a fee of $50 just because there wasn't a glass table there.
Okay, buddy, you just calm down there.
Hold your horses.
Now, this is the only best picture winner that Sennel Thorson is in.
But I believe Mulrads was nominated.
Of course.
I think so, yes.
Obvious.
I think it was for a cinematography.
Oh, wait.
I remember.
Are we looking at the Razzies list right?
Oh, shut.
I'm joking.
I'll tell you what.
I think I mentioned this whenever we were talking.
Maybe I said in the Big Dead of Disp,
batch or something, but that Arrow special edition of mall rats, the 4K's got like the two
additions on it. And the second one is like, it's longer by like 30 minutes. I kind of think
it's pretty solid. But a bonus about it, way more Sven Olfartner. Really? I got to watch. I have
that set. I like mall rats. So I do have to go investigate that. Dude, get this 30 minutes until they
get to the mall in that new. Oh, wow. Newer cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're having this fight. Spenol does a great thing where
he gets to start it out right he's a classy guy he's going to come out and he's going to quote
his favorite 20th century rock band ac dc and he just goes for those who are about to die
we salute you yeah oh yeah and then these fucking tigers man what a great turn for this love these tigers
it's so awesome like you hear wakene say something about like yeah he's going to die sooner
than that it's been arranged like the fix is in on this fight and the fix is in
army of tigers.
Well, yeah, an army of tigers and an old man with an axe.
Like, is the master's stroke of your plan.
While you have, this is also the first game that Gracchus,
Jacobi, decides he wants to go to.
Honestly, great pick.
Like, tigers are there.
Fantastic.
Yeah, oh, I came on Tiger Day.
This is awesome.
Oh, man.
Oh, and they're handing out bread.
I love when they do that.
The best part about the bread, I forgot to mention it,
you see it's exactly like t-shirt cannons that's a very funny observation but like the arena is
going nuts right like everybody's going crazy and what's very funny is while you still see them
throwing all this stuff out rid cuts to the interior of the emperor's little like viewing paddock or
whatever and wakene walks out and it's very funny because he thinks that they're cheering him
as he's making his grand entrance and they're just cheering for free bread being shot out of the t-shirt
Can't it? Do you dip the bread
of the olive oil first or is it up to me to get
my own olive oil to dip?
Well, they're also throwing that out there.
Oh, okay. It's getting messy.
It just got on me. I didn't save
any of it. Oh, you're in the front row. Yeah, you need the
poncho down here. This is the olive oil
central. Yeah, oh, note to the front row, you will get
oily. E-V-O-O-O-Maxomest dispatches a couple of
tigers, which is hilarious. I get some tiger puppets, which are
adorable. Dude, he stabs that tiger puppet.
the throat, the tiger's like, oh, God, it's great.
And we got an axe to Sven's foot.
This is when we also had a shield to his face there in the mask as well.
Oh, right.
I love that drop of blood out of the mask.
And I'm sorry, considering his age, you, that wound in his foot, you got to put him down.
He won't be able to make it around anymore.
He's not walking after this.
You see that?
It's 1-80-D.
you die of a cavity he's dead anyway
they're not going to be able to wrap that up
but this is Maximus the Mercilus
the Mercilus but it's also kind of a fuck you to
Merciful. Merciful. Yes. Mercilus later
when he does this
but basically you know it's a thumbs up
thumbs down the crowd wants him dead
you know what he's like come on Maximus
kill him and that ain't going to happen
to just throw in this axe casually on the
ground, ooh, it's a big fuck you.
That's right. Yeah, because it's a
direct statement because communist is like going
with the crowd. Yeah, kill him. Yeah, yeah.
And it's like a fuck you to the emperor. I love that.
But I believe
the emperor, the emperor comes down,
right? And he's like, oh, you're
causing a lot of trouble around here. And he's like,
I only have one more life to take.
And then this is when he's like, oh,
Maximus, may I remind you?
When we called
that at home crucifixion service,
your son squealed and your wife,
moaned like a whore when we crucified and ravaged them respectively and you know what
that actually does seem to really hurt him like oh yeah Russ Crow shows it he's like oh man
that actually oh yeah but it's great because the sentence that he's able to spit out like through
this rage that you can see Russell Crow emanating he does such a great job of this movie he's
like well then the time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end highness this whole
scene started with one of my favorite tropes
in cinema, we're not so different
you and I.
Oh, sure. We're brothers.
I mean, remember, we're brothers.
I like, Joaquin has moved
fully into emo mode in this
movie in this situation. Oh, sure.
Like, behind the scenes, whenever we get him
with Connie Nielsen, it's always like,
why don't they love me? Why aren't
they? You got my chemical romance
blaring in the background just from seven
different speakers and he's just... Tell me what
to do, Black Parade. What's what?
is this? Don't they love me? I give them love. Why not? By the way, meanwhile, Tommy Flanagan
is, imagine going to, you know, you go to the Yankee game. It's the middle of summer.
You kind of don't want to go, but you got the ticket anywhere you go out there. And it's like,
now batting, number 11, your old boss. Like your boss is like three jobs ago is just
at, holy shit, that's my boss. What the fuck? Sharon, that's my boss. No, that's my boss.
I have the little figures of his dead kid and wife in my purse.
Like, what the fuck?
Wait a minute.
That guy down there, that's the guy that wouldn't give you Christmas off?
Oh, I hope that tiger kills him.
Christmas, you should be crucified for worshipping that.
Oh, that's true.
One of my favorite scenes is one that is, I think, right here when it's Jamon Hansu and him in jail.
And he's praying with the two little figurines.
Yes.
and he's like
he Jemontz who's like well
what are you what are you telling them
and he's like well I'm telling my son to
ride your horse better in heaven
or whatever
and that's like and my wife
well I'm thinking I miss your pussy
all the time just over and over
and over again I'm just I miss fucking you
I know sir I didn't see you playing with your dolls again
no
um so comethus is fucking you know
whining about Maximus to this rotten Falco and Falco's like, you know, you should really
just kill Maximus and then he orders the emperor does all of the senators to be followed because
he's suspecting that something's going on here. Meanwhile, Maximus, much like when you sort of like
try to get the quarterback's attention after the game when he's going into the tunnel, this dude
Cicero comes out and he's like, oh, hey, you know, it's me, Maximus, you remember me from
the army? And, you know, he basically does like a go tell the boys where I am, blah, blah, blah.
He meets up with Cicero later and he's like, hey, how quick can the boys be here? And he's like,
for you, they can be ready to fight tomorrow. And he's basically like, all right, like go to Lucilla
and tell her, you know, what this plan is because it's, it's going to come fast. And he tracks
are down and he's like
hey Maximus is good
to meet with your Senate dude
just FYI gotta go by
and you don't know at this point that it's
Gracchus but you know that it's right
of course but yeah meanwhile
yeah so now everybody's being followed
so Gracchus gets fucking arrested
and
Lucilla's like yeah basically
should say isn't going exactly as well as
we wanted it to do so oops to do
they do meet though right
they do meet at one point and he's like you know uh he basically tells him that you know look
i will be able to get the confidence of the army because once they see that i'm alive
they're going to be loyal to me again they're going to be pissed off that the emperor told them
that i was dead and he's like oh so uh once rome is all of yours you're just supposed to give it back
to the people tell me why i you know uh should believe that he's like because that was the last
wish of a dying man is hell yeah and like i would be like hell yes i will give it back all i am trying
to do, man, is go and fuck
my wife in heaven. That is all
I want to do. So leave me
be. He wants to do that
Magruber Graveyard scene so bad.
That exactly.
Exactly.
I'll just imagine his wife going like,
oh, oh, oh.
But
he's got this great line where
he just goes, I will kill comidus,
but the fate of Rome, I leave
to you. And then you get Proximo.
I love Proximo complaining.
He's like, why would I want the emperor dead, dude?
That guy makes me rich as fuck.
Because what with me being in the flesh trade?
And he's like, oh, why would you want him dead?
I don't know.
Maybe because he killed the man who set you free.
The man who touched my shoulder?
Are you serious?
You see, I, the guy who touched my shoulder.
I actually knew Marcus Aurelius.
I was fucking with you before.
And we should say at this point,
uh,
commonists getting a little wise of what's going
with his sister.
Open your mouth.
He's got the kid and he's just like basically
tell him this story about what happened to
other traders in years
past and it's like looking at the sister
as that's happening.
This is great, yes, because he's telling.
They're all busy little bees.
Yes, the story about Emperor Claudius
and you know,
blah, blah, blah.
But it's great because what sets him off
is he hears the nephew playing
like in the hallway and he goes out
and he's like, oh, what
are you a big bad Roman centaurian or whatever? And he's like, no, I'm a gladiator, a Maximus,
the savior of Rome. And he stops him. He's like, who fucking said that? Who fucking said that in front
of you? It's your fault for the 150 days of games. It's like, yeah, you gave him Sega Genesis. He's
going to talk about Sonic the head. We should say this is the kid is this kid, Spencer,
hold on, Spencer Treat Clark, who's in Mystic River, in Unbreakable, had a good kid career.
He's the villain in Mystic River
Yes, yeah
Yes
He's who put the daughter in there
He also
I mean he was on
Some television show like
Kind of recently for
Agents of Shields it looks like
Yeah we did agents of shield
He was on Animal Kingdom
Animal Kingdom
That was the big one
He was on the new
I heard it's not very good
But that new Salem's Lot adaptation
That Paramount Plus
I'll watch it at some point
I'm sure it's not very good
They talk about movies
being released without any fanfare
that thing just plopped
right like I had no idea
they were even making that
is it a movie or is it a miniseries it's a movie it's a movie
oh wow yeah under two hours oh look at
with the Pullman boy
this is the first I'm hearing about it
which is wonderful yes I'm telling you
this one I was like shocked I was like
oh they really did it okay
it's isn't it Flanagan produced too I think
somebody I don't know
I don't know about that but you know
Well, it's on, I was about to say, I thought it was on Paramount Plus, excuse me, that's inaccurate.
It's on Max.
And I guess that's why I have seen a decent amount of commercials for it, because we're going through hacks right now.
So it's that like, oh, before you watch the thing you want to watch, there's a trailer for this thing we don't really care about.
Oh, but yeah, I just assumed it was a big miniseries, like the TV thing from, was that the 90s?
Yeah.
They, this is one of those books that, like, I, guys, I think we all have to take a break because, like, if Toby Hooper couldn't make this interesting, I don't know what to, like, there's no way to do this.
You know what, you know what, though?
I'm totally mixing things up here.
The Toby movie is not good, but the TV movie, but yes.
Yeah, but I'm thinking, the Cohen movie is pretty good.
I was thinking of the stand, though, which they adapted into multiple miniseries.
I think there was one.
And this was what was possibly on Paramount Plus back last year.
I think like the Whopster was involved there.
Like I think Whoopi was in it.
Yes.
That was supposed to also be terrible.
They always remake that one.
But so like the kid, she's now worried about her kid.
This is the night of the, like basically they're going to fucking kill everyone's going
to hell tonight.
It's the Order 66 of gladiators and senators.
We are just icing people.
This is when Oliver Reed gets murdered.
By the way, he wasn't supposed to be.
murdered but they had to do some
CG shit because he died on set
basically. Well, so the
CG stuff though is he's
helping Maximus escape
and this is he comes
up to him in the cell
or whatever and this is it is
wobbly fake Tarkentown
Oliver Reed right here like it's
not very good. I didn't
even really notice that because I thought he was just
stumbling around drunk again and then
I was drunk watching this
so I was like it's actually
finally something looks normal
I'm just watching the whole movie
with double vision
that's funny Eric because I was like immediately
like oh this must have been the shit they had to do
right after because it looks so
I remember seeing it when like
opening weekend it looked totally
normal on the big screen
but this I was like very the minute
it happens you're like oh wow well you know
the biggest tell for it because it's like
we can only I feel like
they were using scraps of audio
that they had because the way that the
conversation ends, it's not someone like doing an Oliver Reed impression. The way the conversation
ends is exactly what they do in that Sopranos episode when they don't have enough stuff for her
to say and she just goes, huh, that happens at the end of the scene. Like whatever it is like
Russell Crow says to like end the sequence or whatever. He's like, thank you proximo, whatever it is.
They just have like the Oliver Reed cartoon face just goes like, ah. And that's it. And then you have
this shot later where he's getting
his little wooden freedom sort out and he just
goes shadows and dust which
like they must have just had a shot of him
saying shadows and dust from wherever
the fuck it's the shot of him saying shadows
and dust from earlier in the movie
it's the same exact shot
but yes he just
takes that as like this is his
they all come in all the
centurion guards come in and they fucking
stab the shit out of him like all the same time
from beyond by the way he's a pincushion
he was supposed to
to be the guy that actually buries the figures at the end
and the whole thing. He was supposed to
fight Maximus in the last scene. Could you imagine
seeing that? That'd be kind of cool.
I don't know how that would have been a tense fight scene
whatsoever. That's true. Yeah, I don't know how
that would have worked out. Does he kill Maximus? Is that how
it's supposed to end? Like, I
don't know. That I don't know about, but
he was, like, Maximus was supposed
to fight Proximo
at the end of this movie. I think that must have been when
Proximo was going to be played by Jesse the body of
Ventura. Oh, yeah.
How else it's a fair fight between Russell Crow and Oliver Reed?
Yeah, the second time in my career, I was outdone by Oliver Reed.
Can't believe it.
That guy just swoop in on you.
You'll never know what it's going to get you.
Well, Russell, my boy, actually, I've found a new way to compete with you.
The sailors at a bar this weekend taught me a wonderful competitive game that we should.
That is how we will end this.
Just a drinking game between two, two,
old entertainers.
You know, I'm so thankful that I slept through
that Oliver Reed drinking contest
because honestly, I think I'd probably
be six feet under with him right now.
Because he could do it.
I mean, you put a bottle of Kalua
in front of that man. It's gone in five minutes.
And, you know, it's not even just like
whiskey and bad kid. It's
that peanut butter shit that he's
drinking and that stuff
will make you far. Have you ever heard of
Gold Schlager, buddy?
I was on the road with
Oliver Reed and we were hitting some cities
and I tell you one time he
took a cup of gasoline and drank
it. I'm not kidding you, just a full
gasoline cup.
Yeah, if in case anyone's
asking, the first time I lost out on a role
to Oliver, there was
when he played Roderick Usher
in the 1989 adaptation
of the House of Usher,
Alan Berkinshaw was the director
there and it was Oliver
read. Don Pleasance
was in that movie. I just
lost out on it, though.
It was the best time of my life doing theater
with Oliver on the road, though.
We did a true west for a couple of
months, and it just blew the doors
off of the place. You wouldn't
have believed it, but we just went off each other
really nice.
It was something about the
body types was
really interesting for the audience.
But so, like,
everybody's getting murdered. Tommy Flanagan
gets hung here, which is kind of cool.
That's pretty cool. Hagan gets
destroyed. Speaking of pincushions, Hagen gets
fucking like 12 arrows. Oh, yeah,
he's moitered. The Cicero thing is great because
he's sitting on the horse. Like Russell Crow gets out of there
and the whole thing is like, yeah, like we got it all set up
for you, buddy. When you break out of jail, there's going to be
a horse waiting for you in the parking lot.
You can get out of there. It's all gassed up.
You know, those horses is all gassed up. No plates
on it. It's totally fine. We dusted it for Prince. It's all good.
Definitely filed the serial number off that horse.
you're totally fun.
Registration is in the horse's mouth.
They'll never be able to track it. Don't worry.
It's crazy though because
Russell Crow like takes a step
towards this dude and he's like, Maximus
don't and the horse moves and this
dude is hanged off the horse. Oh fuck,
that's pretty cool. And then shot as well
with arrows, which is awesome. Yes.
And they just arrest Maximus here. It's like,
fuck, you know.
And here comes
our last bit here. You know, we're going to
And I feel like
McKeene Phoenix, you need to do a little more
If you're going to cheat, cheat better than this.
This is not the best cheating in the world.
Basically, it's like,
I'm going to fucking fight him in the ring.
I was reading a little bit of Combinus.
Probably Combinus was also a gladiator.
Similarly, similarly would cheat a bit to get like, you know.
Oh, wow, really?
In this way, in this way of like stabbing somebody.
Did he also want to fuck his sister?
Because he also announces here how he wanted.
her to give her, give him an heir.
Am I not merciful?
Am I not merciful?
Wait, he is, he's not merciful.
So is he not, he's not merciful?
Wait, no, but so are we supposed to show him mercy?
Is that what he means?
Fuck, I'm so, just ask a normal question.
It is great, though.
It says you will, he says to her, you will love me and give me a pure blood air.
And then he goes in to like, steal the deal.
Yeah, look like Jason Borhees.
Dude, if you're blood, I guess.
Targary.
Honestly, if you want, I don't know, Jason Voorhees as the leader of your fucking violent cults of fucking expansion.
Might be good.
I mean, think about, we haven't seen Jason in a row.
It might suit him.
Wow.
You know, it's pretty crazy.
The breeze can just go right through it.
I'm still cover it up, but I'm comfortable.
This is great.
I'm no longer irritable.
I'm not stabbing kids.
And also, speaking of stabbing, these gladiatorial short.
Sword's much better than the machete.
Look, look at the range I get.
Oh, I can really extend my arm?
That is a cool mask.
Can you get me that mask?
Because I don't think they're going to let me do all this state stuff with the hockey mask on.
I'm not sure if they'll like it.
It would be like Jason X's mask, right?
That sort of looks like these.
It does look pretty close to the Jason X.
Just fuse it to my face.
I like that the emperor has got Maximus tied up like fucking king.
Kong.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like just the chains on the arms or whatever.
But yeah, this is, we get a little stabby, stabby right here.
And then he's like, strap on his armor, conceal the wound.
I don't want everyone to know that I'm totally cheating.
The funniest thing to me is that, like, he reveals.
So a communist comes up to him and, like, reveals, our last thing, brother, is that we
will fight each other in the Coliseum.
And, like, for a moment, Russell, like, he must be really just, like, sleep deprived.
and just grieving in another world
because he's like, oh my God, are serious?
I'm going to kick your ass.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, you are struck.
You literally, like Andrew said,
you look like King Kong.
You were like strapped up.
And this guy is about to stab you.
Don't get so cocky all this sudden
just because you're like,
oh, I get a fight.
Again, I would give him at least three wounds.
This guy's the best to ever do it.
You know what I mean?
Like, you need more than just the one.
In the throat.
I would say a good one in the throat.
and just be like, oh, a bird did that.
But now we're fighting each other.
Here it is.
This fight's pretty great.
I got to say, though, like, we do have, there is a shot way earlier in the movie, like,
even before I think he kills Marcus Aurelius, where, like, Russell Crow kind of looks over
across the way and, like, Joaquin is doing some shirtless, practicing, sword fighting with
some fellas there.
But, like, even still, you are fucking Maximus, dude.
Like, he should make way shorter work of Joaquin, even with the injury.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
But he, it's a pretty good fight back and forth, you know.
Yeah, no, it's, it's not too bad.
We have a really solid, he's punching the fuck out of Comedus and then knees him in the face.
Yes.
Yeah.
Really awesome.
But this is the bullshit.
We try to salvage the relationship the audience has with Quintus.
Shut out.
Because he refuses to give, like, Comedus loses his sword.
And he's like, oh, Quintas, give me your sword.
And he's like, no, no, no, I'm not.
And also, everyone around you, you will listen to me for some reason and not the emperor
when I say sheath your swords.
Like, wow, Quinn does, Quinn does.
Yeah, yeah, no, I forget what?
How'd the movie start?
I forget.
Maximus is just like, you know what?
I'm going to drop my sword too.
We'll do this like brawlers.
There's some good smacks and punches here.
Oh, yeah.
This is all really good.
And what, you know, what's funny is, I don't know if I said this,
but I don't think I'd seen this movie in full.
Oh, I...
Probably since, like, the early 2000.
It's been like 15 years at least for me.
Yeah, like, I know I had it on DVD, but like, seriously, it wasn't that many rewatches.
But I remember when I saw this movie for the first time,
what starts happening to Maximus in this scene, it didn't work for me,
but it worked better for me now, and it's just age, hindsight, whatever, who knows.
But I really like how as he's dying from the wound and still trying to fight,
when we're cutting to the shots of the afterlife and his visions and stuff it's him like that's literally him dying and him going back and forth like between the two worlds like oh he still like he hears someone in the arena call out his name and it sort of brings him back i really liked it this time around it's cool yeah um but yeah this is he is he's trying to push through through to the beetle juice afterlife but there's a lot of you know at the last second oh what happened to your head what happened to your head
Sitting next to an eaten in half, Jeffrey Jones.
Yeah, what common is takes out this dagger
and is trying to do another dirty trick here.
And then, you know, obviously Maximus just twists around,
twists that dagger around and has him stab his own throat.
And I need, you know, what would have been good right here?
I mean, it's fine because he kills him and it's awesome.
If he pissed on the body in front of the entire Coliseum.
Yeah, wow.
That would have been a hoot.
But no, because I don't.
always like this when fucking crazy killers
are in movies when you're stabbing someone and then you do
the
oh yeah that's what I mean like if you really just
shut up shut up fuck up
it kisses them really quickly
I think there's one of those saving private
Ryan as well yes there is that's
out of Goldberg yeah yeah
yep that's a bad one
but yeah
it's like you know oh
free my man he says and then he says
to Lucilla he's like
Lucius is safe now and he dies
And it's a great, like, this dude literally dies on his feet and falls over.
It's crazy.
Also, tell the pigs to come home.
He's been poisoned, you know.
I think his brain might be going a little bit.
It's like Walt Disney just saying Kurt Russell right before I die.
What is that?
What pigs, Maximus?
I'm going to say Kurt Russell right before I die.
That's the only way to go, dude.
Yeah, you'd have to.
I want on my tombstone, like I just want to, in quotes, Kurt Russell.
People would be really confused.
He's like, was he, was Kurt Russell a nickname?
No, no, no, it's in quotes because he said it.
It was the last thing he said was Kurt Russell.
Is he, on his deathbed, did he reference the Walt Disney thing?
His last thing was a bit.
His last thing on this one, fantastic.
I'm so happy.
I'm going to have so much dementia.
I'll just be doing like Jesse Ventura for no reason.
Like, hey, everybody, isn't this something?
I remember 30 years ago I was doing this?
Steve Sadec, 1983 to 2097.
Exactly.
And then it's just, in quotes, I got the documents.
It's chipped beef Wednesday here at the home.
And they're like, I want to die.
I don't know who does even try it.
You know what, let's just skip this funeral.
I do like when he's dead, there's a really cool floating shot of him.
And you don't see what the deal is here because it sort of mimics when he's being carried on the wagon and Juman Hansu's with him.
Yes.
But it could also be like a he's sort of floating into the,
it could have been an out of body kind of thing or something like that.
But it's just this cool, like you see him floating over the sand
and there's all these like flower petals that have adorned the gladiatorial arena
because the emperor was also in the brawl, I guess.
Is this also the Dead Can Dance lady doing this soundtrack?
Because it sounds a lot like the insider.
Okay.
And I thought it was her again.
Lisa Germano, I think her name.
is no this is uh what's his name doing this uh big boy um oh fuck william zimmer hzimmer
oh howard it is hans zimmer steve was right but uh interestingly there's a there's a
sort of a melody in the score that comes back time and again and i was like this is really familiar
and it's the the part where it goes bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum that is
used as the main sort of through melody in the Pirates of the Caribbean theme.
Oh, shit.
Klaus Baldat, Baddelt did that.
And he actually, I was looking up because I was like, there's no way this is a coincidence.
And like, did this dude fucking steal from Hans Zimmer or what?
No, he was actually an apprentice of Hans Zimmer.
And he, yes.
Yes.
And he wrote music, like, helped contribute to this score.
So that's in Gladiator.
And then three years later, he's hired to do Pirates.
of the Caribbean curse of the black pearl and he takes that melody and makes a full score out of it
which i thought was really and he was he was i just checked he was working with lisa gerard who did
the insider song oh okay oh interesting and she also worked with the on ali so there we go
we were all a little right uh so he's dead yeah and uh this is a great you know uh lucia
says uh he was a soldier of rome honor him and like all the all the dudes turn out to pick up the
and carry it out of the arena or whatever.
Derek Jacoby, he gets out of prison.
Oh, right, yes.
He's ordered to be released.
And I love this big shot of the Coliseum.
Everybody is carrying Maximus out.
And Joaquin's body is just like dead alone in like the bottom corner of the frame.
Really great.
Nobody gives a flying.
Fuck about you, dude.
Somebody get me a bunch of vultures.
I want, I just want as many as you can get me.
I want you to starve.
for about a week. And then I want you to get
them this body right here.
Yeah, Vulture Buffet, dude.
Let's see. That's the entertainment at day
day, day 150. We get to the final
day of the games. You watch
the Emperor's Body be eaten by
Volta. That would be great. You get like the
Olympics theme after
just picking away at his dick.
I'd pay for it. I'd pay top dollar.
But yeah, this is
the last thing is Juba
as Juman Hansu's
burying the little figurines that
Maximus has prayed to in the dirt
and he says, now we are free. I will see you
again, but not yet.
And I'm like, Jemann Hansu
gladiator too?
Not yet. More adventures for
Judah or Juba.
He should be in the next one. Yeah, it's kind of
crazy that he's not. That sort of sucks.
Maybe he was too busy
doing fucking Shazam 3 or whatever.
Shazam, Shazam 2 where he's
kind of
a Wonder Woman for two seconds or whatever.
going on in that movie oh holy smokes but yeah that is gladiator the final shot is him he's walking into
the afterlife to go catch up with his family you put it together that's his hand from the first shot
of the movie very beautiful uh ending but uh go around the horn here for some final thoughts and uh
recommendations after all these years of uh not seeing this movie for most of us uh eric yeah no
i've saw it more recently i think i saw it more than you guys in general i saw this a few times
on television they used to call it
I'm a big Ridley Scott defender
I like most of his movies this is nowhere near
his best movie but I really enjoy it I love the
just whenever you know Ridd gets like a chance
to do these historical battles I really like them
I'm also a Napoleon defender which is a rare thing
these days but but did you care for that director's cut or no I did
it's better it's much better than the theatrical
adds a lot little more context to certain
I really want to see it.
It fleshes it out.
It's on, I think, Apple Plus now.
But no, this movie, I, you know, do I think it deserved all the Oscars?
I don't know.
Maybe not.
But I do enjoy it.
And it was nice to revisit it.
I feel like it kind of diminished for me on this rewatch a little bit.
I felt like it, it was a bit higher for me in my Ute.
And now that I'm proximo myself, it's, you know, not as hot.
But I do really still like it.
So that's me.
Chris Cabin
I mean yeah
I think this is a pretty solid movie
and as far as like
what I expect and want
out of an Oscar winner
this is essentially it
like a big semi-serious
not fully adultish movie
but adultish
a little bit just a little bit
so I enjoy it
I think all the performances work really well
Scott is always just like
the king of hit and miss to me
like he goes like
there's like
this is a perfect time for it
Because it's like three movies that I do not care about, 1492, White Squall and GI Jane right in a row.
And then Gladiator, and then Black Hawk down, which actually I still think is pretty good.
But like, and then he just keeps on going.
And like every other one or like every two other ones, he makes the one that I really like.
And that's still true of this day, I think.
Last Duel, really good.
Hell yeah.
House of Gucci, not so much.
but you know and that's what i like about i kind of i really want him to make another movie like the counselor
that just completely goes crazy but i'm not sure if that's going to happen he seems to be really
doing well with this classical uh element he's doing now
he has literally three feature films and two television series in the works the man is in his
mid to late eight yeah that's my boy uh steve say that yeah i just i i never looked the world's
biggest fan of this movie. I liked it a little more than I thought I would coming back to it.
Again, it's been about 15 years. I think a lot of the practical effects did it. I think the script
is, you know, mixed. If you read a lot about this movie, nobody is very happy with the script.
So they were just kind of rewriting it the whole time. And you can kind of feel that. But I mean,
the performances are so good. The Oliver Reed. I mean, I Russell Crow, man, this is a star making
big deal, big boy performance for him. I think that like, again, not my favorite.
by any stretch, but it's definitely
up there in that pantheon. I'm glad he got his
Oscar. He deserved it for one of these
one of those movies, so it might as well be this one.
You know, one of those deals.
And the Royal Ridder
of it all, I think is even like,
I don't know, even Hannibal is kind of worth watching.
You know what I mean? Like, it's just, right.
It's the Ridley Scott thing. He's
maybe he's not the best director who's
ever little, but he's really, really interesting
and he's always going to give you something to look at.
It's going to be kind of fascinating in this movie.
It holds up.
yeah no i mean i i agree with you guys i don't know that i'm going to say anything too different um it was
cool going back to this movie like i said had not seen it in a very long time uh and i think it
it played better for me than the last time i i had seen it um still wish i got to see it on the
big screen but uh no i mean rid is an interesting guy for me because i'm not i'm not a hundred
percent on the filmography but i have seen a good chunk of it and he's a dude who like i kind of like
stone away Ridley Scott movies because it's like there's always going to be one maybe I haven't
seen yet but like even for the stuff that's not like you're never going to go back to it right like
House of Gucci I'm never going to go back to it I'm not disappointed that I watched it I think there's
good stuff in there like it's just not my bag but like even still in the moment in that two hours
and 35 minutes or whatever it is like I was watching it like I was totally there and this is the same way
honestly another thing about Ridley Scott movies
I think almost across the board from what I've seen
regardless of length they fly by
yes um and this
this movie is two and a half hours long
and it flew right by moves I mean it really
does move the one exception to that
I have seen literally every
Ridley Scott movie except for
Gladiator 2 of course
never ever come near
the monster that is all the money
in the world that thing
Oh I've seen it that fucking thing
moves like a turd like a
rough turd. It will not come out. I still have not
with that one. It is fucking
bad. You know,
again, it's not something I've gone back to, but I will tell
you this about that movie. I don't think
it's amazing or anything. I'm not defending
it. I think it's fine that you don't like it, but
there is buried in this
movie, I think, a rare modern
day, a modern day, this movie came out
2017. Mark
Walbert, good dramatic performance
movie. Which
those things are fucking buried, like
Easter eggs in the backyard, dude.
But, yeah, I don't know.
I'm waiting for three years from now
when we get a bootleg copy of the Spacey version.
Oh, this, yeah, the hashtag.
I cannot wait.
Hashtag destroy the Spacey cut.
But that is going to do it for this episode of We Love Movies.
Of course, this is a part of We Love Movies Month here on the show.
All November we're doing We Love Movies titles,
which means over on the Patreon, patreon.com slash we hate movies.
We have flipped the script.
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That's right.
Tommy Lee Jones starring U.S. Marshals.
Tommy Lee Jones is jack-jackin all over that movie.
Every which way.
We got that going on.
We're doing a feature-length film,
of course, on animation damnation this month.
Steve, what was that?
We are doing the Duck Tales movie's Secret of the Lost Lans,
treasure.
Treasure of the Lost Lamp.
I hadn't seen that movie in forever.
That was fun to revisit.
A lot of Rip Taylor in that movie.
A whole lot of Rip Taylor.
Surprised.
More than you remember.
And on the Nexus, Eric Sisko,
we're also talking about a Star Trek motion pictures.
There'll be a full movie episode on the Nexus this month
with is very exciting for you, folks.
It's Star Trek 4, The Voyage Home.
Hell yeah.
The live show from San Francisco years ago,
which was a great time if you were there.
The magic was not captured.
on a recording device unfortunately so we are redoing star trek for oh yeah everybody makes
mistakes at work sometimes it just fucks people harder than others um but anyway yes we're very
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we are getting into the holiday spirit a little early with 90210 are we not oh for crying out loud
this wonderful life bullshit like yeah yeah yeah
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It's the worst thing I've ever seen. It's a totally
happening life.
Yes, it sure is.
That's rough stuff.
With Robert Costanzo,
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Oh, that was rough to watch,
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ours oh i think i heard of this yeah classic cinema here
you know the episode will be
it'll be sepia in the beginning and then boom
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oh boy I like that
I like that
so until
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