We Hate Movies - S15 Ep770: The Wizard of Oz (W❤️M)

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

“Mank was right, the twister looks good!” - Andrew on the special effects On this week’s episode, We ❤️ Movies month concludes with an absolutely wild conversation on the beloved 1939 classic, The Wizard of Oz! How beautiful is all the craft to behold on-screen as this movie unfolds? Where’s the story where the town revolts against that disgusting Miss Gulch? Wait, how many times did that dog actor portray a dog named Toto? How great is all the vaudeville physical comedy these actors utilize? And in a film filled with terror, how horrifying are those talking trees? PLUS: Did the CIA put the poison in Oz’s poppy fields? The Wizard of Oz stars Judy Garland, Frank Morgan, Ray Bolger, Bert Lahr, Jack Haley, Billie Burke, Margaret Hamilton, Charley Grapevine, Clara Blandick, and Terry as Toto; directed by Victor Fleming.  Catch us at our final live show of the year happening in Boston, Massachusetts on Wednesday, December 4! We’ll be back at Laugh Boston chatting about the beloved(?) rom-com, Pretty Woman! Get your tickets now! Today’s episode is brought to you in part by Diet Smoke! Exclusively for WHM listeners: As part of their Black Friday and Cyber Monday celebration, enjoy a $50 welcome gift PLUS 20% off your entire order! Head over to www.dietsmoke.com and use promo code WHM at checkout.  This episode is also brought to you in part by Public Rec! For a very limited time, upgrade your wardrobe instantly and save 25% off during the Public Rec Holiday Sale! Click through here and when you check out, tell them you heard about them through us! And this episode is also sponsored in part by Rocket Money! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. That’s RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Bus Movie, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs!   Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

This week on the program, you know, is the Scarecrow uninteresting to zombies because he doesn't have a brain? Hey, we're talking about the Wizard of Oz. I'm Andrew Jupin. Put him up. Put a ma'am. Stephen Sadek. Eric of Oskah. Auntie Chris.

And we love movies. Hello everyone. Welcome to We Love Movies. Thanks for tuning into the fine program here. That's right. We Love Movies month is continuing with a movie, I think now, might be the oldest film we've covered 1330. is the Wizard of Oz directed by Victor Fleming. And apparently the Kansas stuff was directed by King Vidor Oh really? Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Great director. Yeah, this is, is it because I think before this it was Citizen Kane,

which is 40 something. This is definitely it's got to be, right? Until we start doing, like Edison, electrocuting elephants and stuff. Can we talk about when the elephant falls on the ground? That can't be real. Oh, it is. Oh, okay. Oh, episode over.

That would be nice I would like an easier work schedule Yes we're finally doing it Our long awaited episode on M Yeah M look I tell you I could do M That would be something

We could do M We could put an M on my jacket The whistle that doesn't You know what is amazing about this Wizard of Oz not M The Wizard of Oz Which I grew up with this where my mother Would put it on from time to time

Yeah, we watch it quite a bit. I love that it was 1939. So in order, it starts with this dedication. Like, this film is dedicated to the young at heart and those and blah, blah, blah. Because it's like, it's like these chain smoking like serial old people, you'd be like, wait, so it's a movie for children, but adults are going to act like kids? Hold on. So it's a movie where you want children do.

enjoy it. Let me put down my newspaper I was reading about the Nazi threat. What is what now you're pretending to be kids or wait you're what is what is that to be young your young heart? You're young in heart that it or is young at no it's young in? Where's that in the newspaper about the

heart transplants? I guess that's happening it's just like literally you need to let people know it's going to be it's going to be fine this is a movie where it's a fantastical movie that we're going to do right now. Honestly put that on before the Marvel Exactly.

This is for The Young at Heart. This is for The Young at Heart, the Young at Fart. We know a lot of you are farting out there during these Marvel movies. Boy, are they ever. How dare you call me Young and Art? I just love Disney and it's strangled on this art form. Go Disney. A talking scarecrow?

That's ridiculous. I'm getting out of this movie. Ridiculous. Stombs out. What do you mean, a whole world in sepia tone? but that's where we start sepiotone i uh is that the town in kansas sepiotone kansas absolutely population 42 i want to see whatever this incident is with toto in town because i gotta say i gotta say right off the bat put toto down no really what do you cannot just have your dog

biting women biting cats first of all this miss gulch she's full of fucking shit dude that dog didn't bite her. Absolutely innocent. Put her down, the old crumb. I would say put her and the dog down. You know what? If you both raise a ruckus, you both get put down. You know what? If you do it that way, I'll agree with you. But if you're keeping this lady alive and killing the dog, no, sir.

But before we get into the real meat potatoes here, yes, yes. What the fuck is wicked? It's a play. It's a musical. What is the premise of that? Don't kill my dog! Don't kill my dog! Is it just this again? No, no, it is a prequel of how the wicked witch got started. And is she really wicked or our societal biases?

That's fair. Because I think I'm defending her here. Really? That dog should be put down. That's your defending all of it just because of the dog thing. It's a danger to the three people it encounters ever. But I honestly think Toto is a hero in this film, one of the great heroes of the film. Even more than Dorothy in a way.

Toto's totally a hero. It's a master class of dog action. Just just without a doubt. How many dogs do you think they killed on this set to make the same? They probably had like five Toto's. They say it's just Toto's Toto's Toto. Toto was an established actor before The Wizard of Oz. I think he was in like 10 or 11.

Oh, and actually the dog itself was a lady dog. Oh, okay. Portraying Toto. Okay. But I think, yeah, the dog was in like 10 or 11 motion pictures maybe. She turned down Charlie Chappel. Oh, no. You know, after his anti-American sentiments.

I will not be in the circus. Bark, bark. Bark, by the way. How dare you call me that? Says Charlie Chaplin to a dog. Yeah, but Wicked is all of that. It just, it doesn't look good, does it, folks? It looks terrible.

Like, look at the color of this movie is gorgeous. I'm having a little fun with you, folks. It is a really good movie. It's just a gorgeous fucking looking movie. It's absolutely great. If you're going to make a Wizard of Oz thing and it's a movie, why does it not look like this? because it's just it's all it looks it looks grayed out almost it does it looks watery it looks it looks gray it's a gray and then you put color on top of the gray which is a bad place to start and they downloaded and used whatever the the software marvel uses to build their cities yes because all the cities just look like marvel alien cities like where like you go and get a time traveling frog or something oh i remember that that was a good one we shall see what happens wicket is an incredibly popular book series

I'm sure it'll do very well. That's the thing, though. I don't know, because up to this point, we've never given a shit about anything other than the actual true Wizard of Oz in the Oz lore. Has anything else? People will tell, I mean, people, there are people out there, sick freaks and good people,

like, uh, both sides. Who did, exactly, who dig on, uh, that return to Oz. But it didn't make a lot of money. Like, it's a movie people might like as a cult, whatever. This didn't make a lot of money when it came out. Yeah. This did not at all. This was a, it took 85.

years. Did you watch this as it's meant to be watched with a Mank introduction? No. Mine had a Mank outro. He had both intro and outro. What were you guys watching? HBO. Yes. Really? Yeah, yeah. I have, I bought the 4K.

There's nothing. It's just the movie starts. Thank God. What did Mank have to say? He was just like, there's a tornado in this. One of the first Hollywood iconic tornadoes. Anyway, bye. It's great. I'm glad we fucking spend an afternoon filming that. Well, that's the whole Did Tracy show up or no, is he not around?

He zoomed in. Do you have anything to say, Tornado? Yes, I did spin a thing, but I would like my friend Tornado to come in. We're wearing a yellow hat. But yes, we start, Dorothy is running down her road, biking down a road with Toto. Right, fleeing the scene of a crime. Yes, exactly.

I'm trying to look. I'm sorry. I got caught up in the Toto of it all. By the way, her name. in real life the dog was Terry 23 credits Terry the Toto I'll tell you this You got 1945 her final appearance on the screen

Uncredited in a film called Easy to Look at Also playing Toto Wow after that she shot herself in a bunker 1940 The Old Swimming Hole Toto the dog Oh wow 1940 also son of the Navy

Toto Wow 7 Whiskey dog showers, and you can't even get up to do a damn Oz parody. But get this shit, though. And then, of course, 1939 Toto, right? Keep going back. 1938, a film called Barefoot Boy, Toto.

Maybe this dog's just named Toto. What do we do with this Terry nonsense? I don't know, but I don't know how you have a fucking Toto credit before it was a lot. It is Toto. In the movie, it's not credit as Terry. It's credit as Toto. It is credit as Toto.

I mean, I think that. It's because the dog, I mean, this book series was a fan, you know, a big fantasy favorite. Anybody read any of them, Frank Albom books? This was a book? Yes. It's a book, dude, it's a book series. I had no idea. Dozens of these.

So I think the Ramey movie is also based off of one of them, which is Sam Ramey's worst movie. That's what I'm telling you. We'll see what happens with the Wicked, but we've tried before like, hey, there's a whole fantasy lore out here that we're not using. But that's a popular musical, right? This has been on Broadway for, I think, 70s. It's almost as old as the Wizard of Oz itself, celebrating its 85th anniversary. By the way, Toto, yes.

Okay, so is this a dog cinematic universe? Do all these movies connect? Barefoot boy, is that part of the Wizard of Oz? I don't think so. It's not all? I don't think. There's no, like, no iPad. Cinematic Universe, shut out.

I thought maybe there would be an iPatch guy. Thank you, Mank. It might be like a wishbone situation where Toto finds itself in all of these great stories. Oh, sure. Yeah, Toto's going into books. Gumby. Yes. Yes.

Toto's pulling a Gumpi. Remember Gumbi? I'll never forget, Gumbi. Yeah, never do. After he died in the towers. That hamlet with Toto is something else. I say, when he comes in. Well, incoming.

Oh, Gummy. Oh, yeah, the blockheads are the hijackers. Anywho, let's talk about this movie. So Dorothy's like, hey, NEM and what the fuck says him? Uncle Henry. Nobody remembers Uncle Henry. No. Annie M, NEM, NEM.

Uncle Henry, good, fuck. Both of them, Bill. Oh, we got this big problem. There was a big dust up in town. Ms. Galtz was fucking yelling about Toto, this, that, and the other thing. And these dudes are like, we have no time for it because something happened to our chicken incubate. We're going to fucking lose all these. And this woman's juggling all these chicks.

And this is a real serious problem. Unlike, by the way, which is a reference. I mean, this movie is so referenced. It's an er text, as you want to call it. Oh, nice. Look at you. College degree and all. Gremlin.

Let's get him. College boy. That's the next step. Gremlins, Billy is like, oh, no, my jaw! I'm like, dude, you're a grown man. This is a little girl. True, you know what I mean? There's a big difference between Billy getting run over by the nasty old lady in the town and Dorothy.

Now imagine, though, Ms. Gulch getting shot out of fucking window because her helper up the stairs chair flew her through the window. I was imagining much crueler things happening to her. during this movie so that that that's fine like being bitten by a vicious dog well only if the dog just dog look at this toto you cow only if that dog continued to eat her until she was dead and then that then then i am a little dogs will do that yeah little dogs will i'm a hundred percent for that they are vicious and this gulch this gulch is part of the elite eric you should be against this lady come on now i don't know she's the lead baradess get the fuck out of here eric come on am so she owns the entire town you're siding with this woman well siding with management

Eric Cisca. Yes. Scab. Yes. Scab! Listen, I've seen the writing on the wall in this country and I'm cozying up to everyone else now. Yes, the one who died in 39.

So, uh, Eddie M is like, listen, we've got this chicken problem. We can't deal with it. So she goes over to the three farmhands here. It's hunk, Zeke, and Hickory. Yes. Hunk. Hunk is the scarecrow. Ray Bulger.

Inaccurate name. Yes. But did he give that to himself? Not a lot of. known about the farming tree. You know, when I was a child, my mother, my mother Mary, she called me hunk of shit.

And she didn't, and at one point, I was just like, you know what, the shit isn't helping me. Hunk, I'm hunk. She called me a hunk of shit. Every time I saw her, she's just like, oh, look at this hunk of shit. This is the three of them. Apple of my brown eye.

Our farmhands. What do you think you're getting paid? A can of beans a day? What do we get that? I'm getting paid and fucking chicken eggs, dude. You work on a chicken farm, or you get paid an eggs. You get to sleep in the barn and not go to prison. Yes, exactly.

Those are your two options. Because you know, hunk, Zeke, and Hickory all have a murder beef. They ran from, fuck. Oh, absolutely. They ran from Nebraska. The law was hot on their tail. That's right. I call me a hunk.

Henry A. Davis is dead here. He's dead. He died. He died that Nebraska, that Nebraska farm with that old lady. What I like about these things. dudes is that they're all professional vaudevillian actors

and it shows in every one of their bits of physicality in this performance it's fucking amazing but I do like she comes to them she's like here's the deal here's what happened you know I need some advice here so hunk

the scarecrow tells her to get a brain don't walk by the house you stupid bitch that is so funny it wasn't shit for wasn't it was you ain't got no brains yeah yeah yeah don't buy you i just wrote you dumb bitch in my notes yeah sure oh i thought he did say that no no no no i don't think anyone's called the dumb bitch in the wizard of us that's some old guy smoking a cigarette in the 1930s finally a movie for me yeah she's a dumb bitch yeah turns out i am young at heart i'm young enough to call that little girl a dumb

bitch and then zeke is uh uh bert lar who was who is also the cowardly lion and he goes uh basically And again, this is not verbatim. This is me writing funny notes to myself. Why don't you just punch that old lady in the face? Because it's basically like, why don't you get up there? Tell her to put him on, put him on. Have the courage to do it. The brain's, and I mean, yeah.

Tin man, no advice, by the way. She doesn't go to the Tin Man. Well, Tin Man was replaced Buddy Epson because there was some toxic reaction to the makeup that he had. When he said toxic reaction, I thought I was on YouTube. I mean, imagine it's 1930, whatever. They're like, yeah, just put this sick. silver shit on your face. Oh, you're dead?

Sorry. Got to get somebody else. Buddy Epson, of course, the original Jed Clampet. Oh, okay. Hillbillies. Yeah, he was like allergic. He was allergic to the makeup. Yeah, and they had to change the formula. But I mean, do you're right, do your point, the vaudevillian thing is so important. I think all of the actors,

yep, every, Eddie M, the woman who plays the Wicked Witch. Margaret Hamilton. Hamilton. It's so stagey, it's perfect. Do you know what I mean? It's exactly that level of staginess that lets you know that you're watching this heightened

world. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without even a hint of a wink and no one is ashamed to do this, no one's too good for it. No, it's like, I'm playing, I'm going to do the pratfall as big as I fucking commit to something. Yes.

And Clara Blandick and Margaret Hamilton are like the two, they're big actresses. They've been in a lot of other stuff. The only other person that I noticed was the guy who does. Judy Garland. well Judy Garland of course but I just presume that but what's his name Frank Morgan who plays Professor Marvel

oh yeah who's been in a bunch of shit too but yeah and Judy and Judy Garland too like apparently there was like a couple of different ways like at first they were like really like over like kidifying her and they're like no just kind of play it the way you know a bit more natural a bit more Judy Garland desk and that's sort of what helps here you know what I mean I think if she was like trying to I'm a baby

you don't know what age she is you assume between like like 14 and 16 maybe No, if you want a baby you get Shirley Temple Who is up for this role But Judy Garland I mean probably first of all A way better singer than Yes, Shirley Temple

But yeah I think I'm looking Doing the math here when they were making this movie I think Judy was like 16 years old Yeah so it's it fits And like this is an adventure That a teenager can have I don't want to see if you have If you have someone who's

Teenager what's that they didn't invent that yet If you're young and hard I guess. That's fair. Yeah, you were young at heart until the 50s and then you were teenagers. Send him to the wall. But, uh, nope, it's gone. Oh, shit, I'm sorry. You guys did it again. Send his thought back to him. I don't think that's how it works.

Well, no, no, we're smoking cigarettes in the theater. We're looking at the newspaper, say, where's that thought going? Here's what I was going to say. It worked. You can't, I guess it kind of did. You just rambling and coherently gave me a second to think. Good. The wires start connecting again. Quick, quick, quick. Before it goes again.

No, you should not have the star of your, your show be the same height as the lollipop guild. That's why a little kid can't do this. It needs to be the adventure of a teenager. It's true. Someone that could take the guild down. Definitely. Exactly. One kick at a time. She's murdered witches left and right, but... Would you like to stomp on us?

We would love for you to stomp on us. Thorot, stop my balls. A giant woman. But here comes Mrs. Gulch. Just run on this farm. Running right on this fucking farm. Why not? She owns it. No, this day on this. farm and if you're Uncle Henry, you get that fucking

shotgun out. You say, you want to so cavalierly come on my land? That's a crisis of masculinity that doesn't bring him to do that. He should have done that. Speaking of the crisis of masculinity, Dorothy's like, what do I do? Oh, God, what do I do? And everyone gives her a little piece of advice. And Annie M is like,

you peep, you bums are going to be out on this street? I'm just like, back to work immediately. Dude, yeah, I wrote down working for Annie M is a real deal, dude. Oh, yeah, baby. It's a real, you wake up every day. Like, is this worth it? I don't know. Maybe I should go to Europe and be killed.

Ah, we shouldn't have done in cold blood a couple of towns over. Oh, man. Well, which one of us is going to marry the kid and kill him? Which one of you? Oh, boy, yeah. Remember that time I woke up and killed that family right before Christmas. Oh, watching him get shotgun. It was fantastic.

Stop putting him wrote a book about it. Tie him up and put him in the basement. It's so great DNA didn't exist. We got to go back. That's the era. That's what we could make this country. It's the alternate title for Zodiac.

I wish I didn't spray their brains. That's out of better, ladies. Somewhere over the grave bone. The gravy bow? Gravestone. Gravestone. I said grave bow because I forgot what I was doing. I had to the end.

Yeah, like a grave bow. You know what I mean. Well, you know, you put a bow around the grave. You know, that's how you know he died in the wall. Oh, but we're going to just chicken. Coop, I guess it's better than the electric chair. Yeah, that old broad yells at me every day, but it's better than being hanged in the

town square. He doesn't have the courage to face the chair. Oh, my God, they're going to put me on the green mile. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's a shock to the system. A couple orders of the midnight special. I'm going to help Tom Hanks piss. I wish I could help Tom Hanks piss. I'm friends with a little mouse.

He sits in my hand. What was the scarecrow doing? Like, killing the family and then, like, stuffing them, like, taxidermil? Yes, yep. Yeah, he wasn't called the scarecrow back then, dude. He was just known as the stuffer. The stuffer. The fuck is all this hay in this guy's mouth?

What the fuck? The stuff is stuck again. Please, sir. Don't shoot my child. Have a heart. I don't have a heart. Oh, yeah, totally. Tint, man.

I see. I love it. You got tinned. for the third one yes we got an actual lion to eat you if i only if i only had a heart hand them so she's like wow this place fucking sucks toto i wish there was a place that didn't suck shit do you think there's a place like that and where could it be

somewhere over the rainbow this i love toto is great a great little dog act we got some little uh dog shaking hands here well that the dog knows it needs to do that so it keeps almost giving paw the entire dance routine. Victor Fleming's like cut, this fucking dog keeps jumping the gut! I read somewhere

I took about like 12 takes each time. How many electrodes Lord knows how many times they were kicking this dog. No, you're thinking of the Edison videos. But like 12 takes around 12 takes to get the dog to walk in step with them

on the Yellow brick road. Could you just imagine like get that fucking dog? Yeah. I mean it's kind of amazing because you do realize in scenes like I'm thinking of when they're in, you know, the munchkin land. It's definitely like, okay, we need to frame the shot so that it's above everyone's knee

so we can just do this with the dog's not in every fucking frame. Exactly, because the dog is just going to do whatever the fuck is. But yeah, it is very funny to watch the dog like, do I give pocket? No. Oh, damn it. I like it when I do that. So why am, why are I not getting up a praise? But here comes, yeah, Miss Gulch fucking bikes her way right on

here and she's demanding. She's take toto the dog needs to be destroyed well just taking through my garden again she has a decree from the law like the sheriff's office has a death like a death notice out on totoe she owns them so it makes sense everybody's in her pocket

what is she a dog bounty hunter why does she have to bring the dog there someone caught no dog no no no bounty hunter for dogs sorry got it got it I'm being bored in the town over because I'm an old fucking piece of shit um but yeah

So she wants Toto destroyed. She goes, she went right to the fucking cops and got that decree. You piece of shit. And I mean, this is great Judy Garland acting. Her heart is breaking for this fucking. Oh, yeah. She's killing it this moment. That heartless fucking Annie M don't give two shits.

No, she's got eggs to deal with it. No, A&M does. Oh, you're right. It's the cuck uncle Henry that doesn't say anything about it. No, cuck uncle Henry's kind of hot with it. Because when FGM is presented with that decree, she, like there's no. She relents eventually. She also says, I'm going to take your farm in which can.

he's like, I'm sorry, this is going to be the end of it. But she does say, like, when Dorothy Storms off, is like, you know, Mrs. Gulch, I've wanted to say this to you for 23 years. Oh, right. But as a Christian woman, I just can't. And that's what, uh, and Uncle Henry kind of gets hard a little bit. Yeah, exactly.

Wow. Oh, did you import those words? Those are fantastic. Uh, but she says, you go away or I'll bite you myself, Judy Garland says this old crone. Yes, that's right. She should do it. I was like, I'd watch that.

Just watch an old lady get bit. Let in the throat. Like right fucking totally. And then someone would screenshot that and be like, The Substance. I'm tired of that meme already. I'll tell you right now. Get used to it.

That movie is very memeable. They're going to go to town with that one. No, but just that one particular, the substance meme. You know what I mean? Like, let's fucking move on. Miss Gulch grabs Toto. She's at a basket.

That's how I'm going to transport this animal to be. murdered. And she gets on her bicycle. I mean, the musical cue, the, but da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, it's just like, it's amazing. All the musical cues at this are just fantastic. I mean, again, like, this movie is referenced to death for a reason.

You know what I mean? It's true, yeah. It's not just like, oh, it's just fun because I remember that Simpsons joke. Like, yeah, but that's the reason. And when you watch things back like this, and especially if you haven't in a while, and that all hit, like, it's coming from all sides. It's, like, mostly the Simpsons, but, you know, It's like, yeah, all of these references, and you're like, oh, yeah, this is all from the same place.

Yeah, and I think the fact that it is so well-known kind of hides the fact that how a weird a movie it is. Yeah, oh, yeah. Re-watching it, it is just a strange, strange ideas on top of strange ideas. Right, yeah, it's like megalopolis. Oh, yeah. Because it's not, it's not the same as, what was I going to say? Oh, because I kind of had this revelation when you watch Saturday Night Fever. right and it's like we only remember

the pop culture soundtrack stuff of that movie and in fact it's a much darker sadder this is like you just remember you know the bits that are in pop culture but when it all comes together you're watching 102 minutes of some weird ass shit go down to wild film you know and that's what's kind of great about getting away from just the references and actually sitting down and like watching it again you're like

oh weird but toto adorably escapes his death and jumps and runs back to Dorothy's window and she's like you know what we're going to hit the road we're going to run away that's what we got to do here fuck these people I hope all their chickens die in the coop and you know what I go I'm going to tell the sheriff who hunk really is

right Henry A. Abbott he will go on to be the Zodiac killer you could run into a new hunk there's a lot of everyone was killing everyone back there's a lot of hunks out there speaking of here comes Professor Marvel who is sleeping on the side of the road here Dangerous drifter

Dangerous letter Professor Marvel Portrait of a serial killer Yeah totally They've been picking from the bone Instead of throwing a TV on someone's head It's a phonograph Just roasting an arm

Yeah you do You do horn first And just put it over the head What a diabolical crime Yeah this dude just pulled over on the side of the road You know he's having a can of beans For dinner tonight He's fried up some hot dogs

Oh, is he? Yeah, yeah. And Toto eats one. He's like, oh, a dog for a dog. Why not? Oh, yes. That's right. Okay, fair enough.

And Professor Marvel is, will also be the Wizard of Oz. He's also going to be every other. The gatekeeper, the carriage driver, the guard and the wizard. Yes. Which is a cool, I like, I like when casting does this. Right. Also, because this is just a hallucinogenic fever dream. Hunk slipped something a dirt thing.

Yes. And. Hunk did what Hunk's going to do. Huck's been in the chemistry lab. something's boiling I'm gonna drop that ATM on your face hug we're getting out of town the heat's getting too big at the door at the ATM

is an actual bank teller it's a guy it's a dude at a window tips the whole booth over but yeah so he's like oh hey you know a little girl I'll read your fortune I'm acclaimed by all the best magic experts in Europe

let's do a little fortune read here that's so great what are you a professor of oh don't ask that little bit well because he's kind of a mentalist kind of a guy as we kind of get we learn it's a cool little bit here because basically she's like I'm running away and he's like well running away

and he immediately goes into paternal mode as opposed to like well I could kill and eat you which is the thing he uses his mentalist powers for good and not for perverted violent stuff because she leaves too quick he was trying to placator with this act. I did just watch the movie Freeway

and I have a lot of ideas now. But so she is like, A, never go inside this guy's cabin. I don't get a shit. Can you bring the crystal ball out here, please? Right here on the open so I can still be heard when I scream. Yeah, yeah. You can read it over there and I'm going to be about 10 yards this

way. I can still hear you. I love the idea that he's like saying that this crystal ball is so old. I go, oh, Julius Caesar saw this thing one time. What? That's old. What the fuck? Where were What? How did you get it? Oh, wow. Who is that? But while she...

Julie? He distracts her. He goes at her bag. He finds a picture of Annie M. She's in a polka dot dress. She's like, oh, I see a lady in a polka dot dress worried about you. It's like, oh, you know. It's so sweet that he doesn't kill this girl either. It really, I can't get over. It's a circus freak on the side of the road.

I mean, you are in real trouble. I see this. I see a, God, I see a rabid bitch who were just like, Want to kill your dog? What the fuck is that about? No, the rabid bitch is my dog. Oh, that's nice. What a sweet name for your little dog.

Rabid bitch. I hope she bites everybody and takes them down with her. I see a young girl about to embark on an incredible journey with a handsome old man. A wizard, some may say. And she's going to end in the clouds. It's going to be beautiful. Her ultimate destination, the clouds. Isn't that nice?

Close your eyes, close your eyes. Sh, shh, shh, shh, shh. The only way this fortune telling is going to work is if you go to sleep now shut the fuck up little. Oh, this here is chloroform, it's new. Take a smell of this handkerchief. Yeah, take a whiff with this.

It's magic juice. R.H. Macy's new chloroform. She's like in the back coming. Where am I? Where are you taking me? Oh, we're in Oz. You won't know how to get back to Kansas anytime, too. This is chloroform. It's a sleep aide that they sell have pharmacies now.

Oh, you need some ore then, don't you? You got your pain? Can I get some heroin? She's under for, like, months, you know? Who knows what was happening? No, but she's like, oh, you know, he much cared an awful lot about you,

crying over, when would you? She probably took care of you when you were sick. And it's like, yes, she did take care of what I was. This is another moment where Judy Garland kills it, right? She has some memory of, like, whatever the sickness is. And, like, her response there is really great. Yes. And this dude convinces her to, like, head back home.

Like, again, the fact that this girl's not being eaten inside a wagon in 10 minutes from now is really wild. But we're in Tornado Alley, man, and that shit could happen at any, moment. Gotta say, Mank was right here. The twister effect, this all looks really good. The twister in the background looks great and then all the physical stuff with all the

wind machines that they're doing. The door flopping off. It's fucking great. The rear projection in the window is really awesome. It's so good. I'm surprised that Hunk... Let her live. All three of the farm hands are allowed the shelter

with the main phone. That's actually true. That's crazy. You try your luck in the fucking pig farm. You understand me? This is Uncle Henry getting really gruff all of a sudden. If you come in this house, that's it. You're not getting beans for the rest of the month. Now, we're going to let you in, of course. But no

now. Hunk, you're the first one to get eaten. If this is for good, we're going to stay in here. Hunk's getting eaten first. I had the thought, like, because this is, I mean, it's all really great. I'm rushing into the cellar or whatever. Can you imagine, like, seeing this in the theater in 1939?

Oh, yeah. What in the fuck? like a big real deal special effects fantasy feature like this was like star wars oh fuck oh man i forgot all about hitler what's that what no i'm just thinking about the flying monkeys now yeah hey man you went into the theater dude you fucking forgot for 102 minutes you walked right back out and like oh fuck hitler okay that's gonna rest of my day is gone now that's why you got to go to the movies at least once a week man double up the double feature that's why they used to let you stay all day. Yeah, yeah.

You can just sit here in Fantasyland for a nickel, it's fuck. Just don't think about Hitler. Whatever you do. Boy, aren't you sick of hearing about that, Hitler? It feels like it's been years now. Rush out the movies. We need them to stop thinking about Hitler.

I hate when I hear about a guy for too long. I know. When I hear about a guy for too long, I must be like, well, he must be not that bad, right? I guess so, right? Yeah, and you hear about him for so long. I mean, like, we're still hearing about Jim Hansen. It's true.

He seemed like a pretty all right guy. But yeah, great effects of the tornado. She's going in. She gets knocked out. She's in the house. And much like a Friday the 13th movie, the window breaks into the house here. And she gets knocked on the noggin by the, I guess, breaking sheet of glass that's coming at her and falls unconscious. But she's actually on drugs in that circus freaks thing.

And he banged her on the head. Oh, absolutely. And then that's why this is all kicking off. She's currently in a barbarian situation. and she don't even know it. Oh, wow. Okay. Oh, so they got tunnels underneath this house.

Oh, big time. Big time. Yeah, the Kansas tunnels, dude. You didn't know about it? I was not aware. Ageless wraith, Richard Brake got her again. Oh, love me some Richard break. What was I watching?

Oh, I, uh, during the Halloween season, you know, I was going through on Shutter there. They got the Rob Zombie filmography. Of course, yeah. Dipped into that Halloween dose and it starts with the Richard Break as the ambulance driver. Oh, baby. That dude's got a grim death in that movie. It's a tough one. It's a rough one.

Man. But so this is the house. She wakes up. The house is flying through the sky. I mean, it's so fucking great. We have a couple of gags. There's an old lady just sewing. That is just caught up with a tornado.

Some chickens getting to fly, which is a very funny. Some guys in a boat rowboating. There's a witch. They're all dead. And there's a witch, of course. But there's also, much like the 1996 blockbuster, a cow floating around. Yes, and all these things die in this storm, right?

Of course, yeah, they're all the old lady knitting. She gets thrown through a barn thresher seconds later. Yeah, I mean, the cow looks like it tripped a mine. Those two dudes in that boat just get eaten by the flying monkeys. Like, just they land in the wrong part of Oz and they are just eaten. Yeah, this ain't the fucking munchkin land, little fellas. They just get eaten by huge human monkey hybrids. Oh.

Yeah. but we land i do love the transition is impeccable it's like this great they do a great job of like faking you out because they they they film they they basically light the room that she's in in sepia you know what i mean and shadow yes and you're like oh wow cool and then you open the the door and boom there's the colorful world it's incredible you just get popped with this technicolor and it's just gorgeous and i know i sound like a fucking broken record but the 4k looks great It's a Warner Brothers 4K They're bare bones

But they look and sound awesome So I do recommend it This looks just the pop Off the screen And we get the first appearance of Gilda the Good Witch here Glinda Glinda apologies

Arianna Grande herself Which is in this movie Amazing And in this film And in both cases I'm like beautiful You're calling her beautiful Well it's kind of great

She comes down Also if you've seen Wilde at Heart You know David Lynch has seen this movie. Right, yes, yes. Did any, you saw that, right? The Lynch Oz? Yes, yeah. It's worth a damn. It's not really.

It looks like one of those, it's a quote documentary, but it could be a quote DVD extra. It's a video essay essentially. Oh, I like that. That's already kind of better. I like a good video essay. That's basically it. It's basically like, wow, are there a lot of interesting correlaries between David Lynch and the Wizard of Oz? And that's

true. Yeah, yes, there are. And a couple interesting people talking about it. It's it's worth one spin if you're a lynch head. and she comes down and yes, Billy Burke as the good witch. To tell to Eric's point, she's like,

the door, he's like, well, I thought all witches were horrible and ugly. It's nothing beautiful like you. I'm like, I think you got it right

the first time, pal. With a five at best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I'd figure it out. That's an oaky five,

my friend. I guess it's an oaky eight. That'll be the Oki A, man. It's a Cisco five, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Hey, high standards over here with Eric.

Well, and all the munchkins come out right here and they're all fucking screaming and yelling about whether or not Dorothy herself is a good witch or a bad witch because they're hungry and if it's a bad witch

is that right? They're going to get Oh, like EWOx. Speaking of which one of them is Harry Earls the little boy from freaks. Oh, yes. Oh, nice.

So I was like, yeah, he's absolutely going to eat you. I love the idea that they're, and you know, just fantasy is important. And there will come a time when people, when the people that will oppress you will be dead and you get to sing a song about it. Yeah, that would be nice.

Just think about it. Yeah, so just get right in your lyrics now because you never know when you're going to have a ding-dong the witch's dead moment. And it is just... And your job is human being is to live your life so that people don't sing jolly songs when you die. Exactly, yes.

Jump dancing, jumping for joy. Jolly's song specifically about killing and dying. That is something you want to stay away from generally, I don't even want my death celebrated with as much as a horn honk, okay? I don't want to be remembered at all. Well, that don't worry, don't worry. I know. We're going to fix it so that happens. Oh, trust me.

Global memory wipe. Look out for it. I think that I think, looking at my life right now, I think that's already happened. Forgotten in a riverbed. Forgotten in a riverbed. Ding dong the witch is dancing and having

the best time of their fucking lives this is quite the number huh this and these these guys freak me out man I'm not saying

I'm not trying to be anti anything or god it's the makeup it's the hair do it's the costumes like the and the voices

the bizarre voices it's so eerie and evil sounding and the coroner with these weird little hat munchkin coroner weird but I got to give it my MVP of freaking me out

sewer munchkin sewer munchkin you see this fucking guy come out of a it's a manhole cover in munchkin land and then you find out because he's creeping me out a few seconds later he's part of the lollipop

guilt and he's got this stink face a lot of these munchkins man and like other like even the vaudeville guys you know like something about back then was a lot of you're standing around and the look on your face as you smell the gnarly fart Yeah.

And that's what sewer munchkins got going on big time. Well, I, but I understand that because, I mean, there is a sewer, but I have a hard time believing, I don't know. Land of Oz does not seem to me like a place that has toilets. No. It does not, it just does not seem like that kind of world. Oz, Star Trek, no bathroom. So you just walk into the sewer to go shit and then walk out of it? Or maybe they just perch over the manhole and let it plump down there.

Or we'll piss in the poppy field, dude. Also that, you could do that. Or is there, I could piss in the room. or take a shit or you could just fart and shit on the land I can shit in the river unless it's in winter

then I gotta go inside Is there a housing problem In Oz? That looked like there's enough house Because why is this guy in the sewer? I don't know that it's houses It's all like fucking administrative buildings

Like it's the goddamn welcome center I think the lollipop guild Is like the sanitation department They're in there fucking cleaning this shit We represent Did the sanitation department sleep in the streets

every night? Because that's what it seems like this happens. They get paid in lollipops? Is that what this is? They're getting fucking taken if that's true.

I only get one licks a day. No, no. They run the lollipops in town. You understand what I'm saying? Any time somebody wants a piece of the lot, come in the lollipop. Dude, fucking munchkin king.

Your first lollipops on the house. You know where you got it. Come on back. a raspberry razzle, huh? Well, that's going to cost you, buddy. That right there is going to cost you a bit. Yeah, yeah, I got the lollipops. Come down to the sewer, sit on the couch,

maybe watch some of this movie with me. I'll get your lollipops. What are you to rest for? Some guy gets Eastern promised in the throat. This is for the lollipop guild. He took our shipment of lemons. But, yeah, she's meeting all the different guilds and things. And basically, yes, we realize that they've been tyrannized

by the wicked witch of the east of the east who uh the house dropped on her got a house dropped on her like oh thanks for dropping that house on her and i mean like that's such great black comedy too you know what i mean like especially for a movie that's four kids and blah blah blah no this bitch is dead totally dead um i do love we mentioned the munchkin coroner he confirms he performed an autopsy he did not you did know such thing time you little liar no no that's a lie you were paid off you little big liar one of the lollipop guild

is someone I fucking paid him off I would love to see it go away Just make it go away Like an alien autopsy I want to see the witch's autopsy Dude also hosted by Jonathan Franks It turned out But also like

If you're that guy If you are the person who wants to do The autopsy Why not just stand there Be like what the fuck do you want me to do Are you gonna pick this house up Yeah what did you look at The fucking feet

The socks Here let me touch the foot Yeah dead fucking dead Weird Hey, we can reach in the Eastern If you're alive, say something That's my autopsy She didn't say nothing

Death by crushed by house The other guild Because it's the Lollipop Guild But also she's greeted by The Lullaby League Yes, the Lullaby League creeps you out of all Yeah, but for different reasons Like the strangers or something

Exactly yeah Total Hawn and house shit The Lollipop Guild That's just weird sewer people Lullaby ladies or whatever They're breaking in your house In the middle of the night Because you were here.

Like the flesh-eating fairies from Hellboy. It sounds like a nice little thing, but actually, they will kill you. But so they're having a good time meeting all the gild. The introductions are interrupted because here we go. Margaret Hamilton, back in the movie as the Wicked Witch of the West. Is that my sister under there? Just furious. A bunch of, well, I pop gild like.

at her knees like stop her she's just dragging all these guys but yeah it's kind of great they go uh it's like oh yeah that's the Wicked Witch of the West she's even more evil than the Wicked Witch of the East and they go she's worse than the other one

it's like the killers from Kiss the Girl on both coasts and who killed my sister and everything that was her over there it's a huge giant with the red hair she says she's from the star of Kansas whatever that is. You know what?

We have to have a little a town meeting here about snitching, all right? Exactly. Like, we all did this. You were all dancing on her grave. You got to fucking tighten those lips. Yep, exactly. You had a song ready to go for her death.

You didn't even have to write it. You were, boom, we got it. Because it's been weekly rehearsals for 25 years at least, dude. I love Glinda's approach to the Wicked Witch of the West. Just like, you have no power here. Get the fuck out.

It's awesome. Get the fuck out. You can talk shit all you want, but you're not going to do anything. You powerless, goodbye. It's so wonderful that your sister is fucking dead. Have you seen the joy around the town? They're just so happy. You know what?

She does have those incredibly powerful slippers. Why did you go grab them? She goes to grab them. The famous shot, the slippers disappear. And again, in like a perfect Tim Burtony grotesquery. It's very beetle juice right now. Roll up. Tim Burton has seen this movie.

Of course he has. But this is when Beetlejuice unfolds his arms and they're like mallets or whatever. There's a lot of body horror in this. I mean, totally. Tim Burton has watched this movie with one hand really going for it. I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is pressing the paws button. Oh, the feet are rolling up. Oh my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, and then he just goes. Yeah, that's it. That's it. And then he just goes. She's melting and so am I. Gets! I guess he's young at cock.

What Glinda says to her, the line is actually pretty great. Be gone before somebody drops a house on you. Oh, yeah. Bye, bitch. Yeah, totally. It's a real bye, bitch. And as we're going to find out from Wicked, they got a bad history. Oh, shit.

I just always want to know what's going on all the time. I hate not knowing the absolute deep, deep, deep back. story but new characters. Steve, I got to tell you, I fucking hate imagining. I know. It's fucking horrible using my imagination. It's just so fucking hard. Oh, just the, it couldn't possibly be

that someone's just a bad villainous person. Something must have changed. Well, no, you know what's good about this? Now we have a very serious, like an explanation for it. So it's a fact thing. So somebody can be wrong finally. Finally we can say somebody's fucking wrong. that's great

but yeah I'll get you and your little dog too happens right here of course it's great I love Margaret Hamilton's entrance and exit here with the big red cloud of smoke and everything

it's fucking great and you can see it's a little cool it's like a bit of a flub but it's kind of cool you can see when she goes to leave and the red cloud comes up

before she's completely consumed in it the trap door kind of goes down and you can see her like just for that's fine That's fine. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. That's at zero stars now. Well, how am I supposed to take this movie seriously? Like, how am I supposed to... Can't even make a witch disappear without showing me the trap door.

Oh my God. Like, I know, now I know that this is a movie, so I can't enjoy the movie. So, you know what, that's a problem. So Dorothy lays out what's going on. Hey, I'm not from here. I'd like to get home. Yada, yada, yada. Glinda says, well, I think what you got to do is go talk to the Wizard of Oz. Well, how am I going to do that? Follow the yellow brick road. Follow the Elamig Road. Follow the Elamigrown. Hit the bricks, bitch. Just follow Elton John.

He's been down there for a while. Hell yeah. Half past Crocodile Rock, dude. That's real. I mean, I wish I heard crocodile. Once you get to the poppies, you can fucking Blair Crocodile Rock. Oh, you better, man. Such a good song.

God damn, it's good. She runs into the scarecrow first, right? Yes, because she starts off on the way. hits a crossroads, three-way crossroads, by the way, she goes up to it, and then she starts to kiss it. Oh, no, I'm thinking of Pearl, apologies. Dude, and I'll tell you what, Pearl,

Pearl has ruined the Scarecrow for me because Pearl's tongue kissing that scarecrow, man. And it's, it is an unsettling scene in that very rad movie, I am a creepy thing here when we introduce a Bulger as the scarecrow. He starts talking to her and his mouth isn't moving. Again, additionally terrifying. Well, it's like, well, you could go this way, of course.

Or some people go that way I can't make up my mind I don't have a brain But you're talking Okay I'm already freaked out This is already a problem Great line from Dorothy though Some people without brains

Do an awful lot of talking Is Hitler Does that make you think of anybody Someone who's name Rhymes with Russelini This Hitler guy's doing an awful lot of talking But I can't understand a single thing He must have shit for brains

I mean What is that? It's going too fast What is that? That is the sound of an American hearing of foreign language. I'm going to go out to the lobby to get more cigarettes. I mean, all the, quarter way through. Filterless, please.

Thank you. Hey, did I miss anything? I was out in the lobby buying cigarettes. One ticket for the extra smoking section. Two cartons of cigarettes, sweetheart. I've got to get through this picture. I'll be back out for two more on the way home. Gardens.

So he sort of comes off the little poll here, and this is great, all my stuffing and guts fell out. It is so, I mean like it's a silly effect, but they do really well with the scarecrowedness of it all. I love it. I love the physical comedy when he's like trying to stand and walk. Yes. It's really good. Yeah.

It's almost as if his straw muscles have atrophied on the pole. Yes. It's all really great. Later when he gets ripped at half and like... That's brutal. And we're doing, we're doing the effect that like, you know, Tom Zavini has utilized in zombie movies.

You put the head through a fucking board and the body's fake and they just rip that dude apart later on. It's awesome. Scarecrow, another weird scarecrow detail just real quick. He confirms he does not eat. Nope. I don't need sustenance. So these apples are all for you. Oh, my God.

In a movie full of terror, the trees of the scariest part, period. And obviously, Mr. Sam Ramey has seen this movie. Yes. They went a little further with you. They did a little bit. They were, uh, they went for the cherries, not for the apples. Yeah, I'm not, I was going to say, I'm not sure that's a fruit tree. Be you.

Ooh. Ha. We're having fun today. Which I'm sure Victor Fleming said while watching. But no, this tree is fucking horrified. It is. It's awful. And like grabs, like, what are you, you're ripping pieces of me off?

How about I rip pieces of you off, you little shit? A tree, it would kill you if you think. So that's where we have to cut them down. Cut down those trees. Those are my babies. Stop taking my babies. It's so awesome. The Scarecrow is pretty, you know, obviously he's had a brand the whole time.

That's a fucking point of the story. But he's very savvy in this moment because he's like, don't worry, do you're the eye got it. And he's just like, hey, you piece of shit tree, your apple's got worms in it. What do you think about that? That worms probably bigger than your cock. Or is he saying something about my maggot tree dick? God damn it. Who did you tell about that?

I get a song now If I only had a gun I would blow this stupid thing away I'd kill the little girl if I only had a gun And yes I shot Lincoln Also admitting to a presidential destination And I framed that actor from that little troop of performers And he got killed in a barn

I think all these people would love O'Mary though I think they'd get into it They start throwing apples Like no you can eat in as many apples as you want I remember I saw this maybe two years ago They did a Victor Fleming thing at Walter Reed And we saw it in the big screen

And it was great And it had been a really long time since in The Wizard of Oz And at this moment I was like Well that scarecrow is actually pretty clever Wait hold on And I literally in my brain It took me a minute To be like

Oh I guess he doesn't need a brain after And then oh the heart wait it was inside them all along now all he needs really is a stomach because not eating that seems weird what a revelation at 40 years of age all the dots I love it so much

this is as they're forging for all the apples of course this is where we bump into the tin man and another horrifying shot where it's like apple apple yeah big steel what the fuck here he is fucking frozen because he got stuck in the rain All kinds.

That's terrifying. He's like, You gotta help me. Let's live a child out. I'll me up. I have tumors everywhere. So, yeah, he's stuck. He's stuck.

Oh, wow. This metal friend here seems to be stuck. I have an idea. Why do you keep on calling me Step Tin Man? It's cool. He's a stepton. So they spray all over them. Actually, oil, right?

Oil, not bodily fluids. And then it loosens him up. And he basically invents the robot here. You know, just more or less. Fun dance. My curiosity here is what he was going to attack or defend himself from when he froze with the axe raised above his head. So he's about to kill a family. He was chopping a tree down?

Oh, was he? Yeah, they say that. Yeah, he was chopping a tree. Oh, I thought he was family annihilating. Yeah. Get back here, Mrs. Tinman. Here's titty. I was cutting down a tree, a family tree.

Oh, I like that. Well, it's so odd. I was chasing my little boy, Danny, down this way, and I just got frozen stuck. Do you know which way it is to sidewinder? I do, yeah, this is a great little bit here, but apparently weirdly, to save money on the production, the actor who, whoever.

Jack Haley. Jack Haley, who wound up being the Timmon. Oh, by the way, Jack Haley, Jr. married Liza Manelli. Ah. No. Weird as fuck. Yeah. That's a little strange. It was one of her many husbands, but you know, it didn't last. She had a real rogues gallery.

Yes, but one of them was the Tidman's son. That's weird. Yes. Uh, but Jack Haley, uh, to save money in the production, because Buddy Ebson did do some stuff. The only, they re-recorded his solo stuff, but anytime it's in unison, it's Buddy Ebson. Huh. Singing? Yes. Any, any singing and it's all in together

we're off to meet the wizard yes that's buddy ebson but I was just confirming that you were talking about audio and not he's features in shots no no yeah there's no shots but it's interesting that they they to save money on the audio that's crazy too because I would not I mean not that I know what shit ton about his career or anything like that but

I would not have pegged buddy Epson as a singer yeah back then that's what you had to do ever you had to yeah all these vaudeville guys you had to have everything and the ladies too yeah song and dance man I mean, this fucking tin man has been there for a year just standing there watching this road. I would find, honestly,

I'd find a river and throw myself in it. After all this, I'd be like, you know what? No. If this can happen again. I would also find a way to kill myself. Let me go full rust and just throw myself entirely into a body of water. In the bomb books, he's known as the Tin Woodsman. Better name, by the way. That's a little scary.

There's, you've watched Boardwalk Empire? No. Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah, the Jack Houston character Harlow was like inspired by him because he's got the metal face

thing. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I like the Ken Woodshman. I just remember that very clearly. I always liked that character. I didn't watch a ton of

boardwalk empire. Probably just the first and maybe a little bit of the second season. Great show. Great show. Love that show. Yeah, so this is

we're going down the road and the Wicked Witch of a heart by the way. Well, we don't have to talk about the songs because it's, I mean, it's hard to talk about

Oh, no, that's a heart. He wants a heart. He wants a heart. And they're getting ready to go, but then the witch shows up right here. Oh, actually, the one thing I do want to point out during all of the dancing and everything is the tin man doing like what Michael Jackson stole. Oh, yes, totally the sway thing. Which is really, like, that was, I had forgotten about that from the movie and I was like, oh my God. It's incredible dancing. You've got all of it right here. Like this incredible color, this incredible dance, the songs and blah, blah, blah. And you're just smoking cigarettes. It's like, what? When's the next war reel? Yuck at heart. Horshit! I love movies that just hypnotize children. I love them when they just can't think of anything else and they're just sunk in there.

Somebody owned a 35 millimeter print of this for his screening room. He was also very famously in The Wiz, which I had... Oh, right, yeah. I forgot. I think I've seen The Wiz once in a trillion years ago. Same, yeah. It's a Lumet picture. Yes, it is indeed.

But she, yeah, the Wicked Witch of Peers were here. This is a great. Hey, Scarecrow, want to play a ball? Oh, yes. There's a fucking flame at him, a flame ball. Pretty great. And this is, they're so upset with the witch. They're like, I don't even care if I get a heart or anything. I want to take that bitch down. Totally.

So we go into the spooky forest. We're walking through a spooky forest. And by the way, because I think, try to cut off one of these, I can't believe they didn't talk about. I think right here, so it's Scarecrow, Tenman, and Dorothy, walking down the yellow brick road to go into the forest. At this part of the motion picture, I believe, is where the urban legend of someone hanging themselves in the

background. It was just, if you look in this scene, they got tons of fucking huge peacocks all over the place, and it is the truth that it was just one of the birds getting in a shot. No one committed suicide on the sentence. No, no. You see, the thing is, yeah, no, no, you don't see someone getting

hung and, you know, hanging themselves. Someone is hanging them. That's what's happening. Yes, let's get it right. So there we go. We touched on the urban legend. A lot of people were clamoring for us to talk about. I don't get it. Like, everybody knows that there's only one movie where that ever happened, and that's major pain. Yeah.

Just right in the background. It's that and three men and a little lady. Oh, yeah, that's a ghost. Well, because of major pain, what happened was, someone was on set reading the script, and they were like, are you kidding? And then that was the end of that. You got Michael Ironside for this? Good night. Yeah, we're walking down the spooky forest.

Lions and tigers are bears oh my The 10 men's like well That's probably lions and tigers And probably even bears in here It's like well shut the fuck Even bears And then here he comes Look at all terrifying

Put him up Put him up I'll fight you on one foot I'll fight you with my eyes closed I'll fight you with a paw behind my back Seems pretty courageous to me Yeah But then she smacks him on the nose

And he's like oh why'd you got to do that for I was just playing a game of soccer Because he fucks around and finds out man He's like get up and fight You shivering junkyard You lopsided bag of hay I love these burns Dude you should go around

Dude just call just go around calling someone A Lopsided Bag of Hay Bring it back I should Take back Lopsided Bag of Hay There's so many good like Auntie May's got

Auntie M Has got a great Weird old Line of Dialog at the start of the movie What's all this jabber weapon Yeah jabber weapon That's when you I guess they're talking

Yeah Talk too much Jabberwap. This is a Jabberwapper show. Jabber Wapper. I'm a professional Jabber Wapper. Thank you very much. That's what they should have called podcast on. So you're going to listen to a new Jabberwap track. Yes. I mean, I like when they're singing a good line for saying like someone is going to be legendary or somebody's going to be remembered. Be a bust. Oh, yeah. You're going to be a bust. Hell yeah. Dude, you're going to be putting your bust in libraries and museums and whatnot. You're going to spray your bust everywhere. Wait, wait. My hooters?

Yes, Eric. You're hooters. yours specifically they'll be in the library one day you're glistening tits go go check mine out oh I thought you meant you were going to have a hooters in the in the place oh you want to see Eric's tits

consult your local library a bust busty busts it's kind of interesting so the we got if I only had a brain of a lot of heart because you can't ride with courage so it's like we need a different song

it's if I was king of the forest yeah and this kind of sucks This song sucks. You should have figured out if I only had a courage. Yes. Yeah, it's got to, you got to work something because this song is shit. Wow.

It sucked. I'm sorry, it sucks shit. Oh, my God. Look, I like that you, I like that you tried. But if I only had some balls, it's not going to work. This is a, I know we said adults too, but this children first, we have to think about that first. If I had Cajonis. If I only had some balls.

Dangling dangling balls They'd be shocked one and all If I only had some balls Oh there you go Yeah I was trying to think of well Maybe it'll come to me This is we see So they're like all right cool cowardly line

You can team up with this We're gonna go talk shit to the Wizard of Oz Try to fuck this dirty witch over Let's try to do it courage I don't know Yeah we're making up all sorts of fake promises Just drifters we'd be Yeah exactly they bottle that shit probably

I mean she does level with them like hey He can't do it. Are you worse off? Yeah, exactly what are you going to do? Listen, guys, you might as well be fucking dead, so come with me. You could stop me with some cleats even though it has some feet if I only had some balls. There it is. Excellent work. So, you know, they kind of have a life debt with Dorothy here because she's saved them all from their horrible existence.

Well, I guess except for the lion, man. They fucking like just walked into his territory. The other two, yes, life debt, definitely. Which is ironic because the one that looks most like a wookie, no life dead. Flip the script. That's what George did. So as they go off, we see now the Wicked Witch is spying on them through her crystal ball, following their every movement here.

Is this our first appearance of the monkey person? First shot of the flying monkey, literally in my notes. Oh, boy. It's brutal. I mean, the tree is the worst. Number two is this guy. But these are gross. These are gross.

Because it's little people. dressed up as fucking anthropomorphic monkey things. Yes. Human Z. Human Z's wearing fucking bellhop hats and whatnot. I can't wait for Michelle Yoh to do eugenics and create these things and make it or whatever

whatever interesting backstory they have. I'm sure it's going to be great. Defy gravity to make these fucking manzies. At my after school program when I was good, my mom worked late so I would have to stay at school for a little longer. One of my counselors let it slip during some like, I think

it was like the last day before summer. Pardon me? Oh, this is getting into the day. Oh. That he is scared by these flying monkeys. He said this in front of children. You can't do that, though. It was the rest of the day. You can say it in front of 40-year-old people that are like, we understand.

You can't say that in front of kids. Chris, did you and all your classmates dress up as flying monkeys and it cost him? Oh, dude, you freak him out? Yeah. No. He did just after he said that, though, I think, to get people's attention off of it, he drank like if you went to Costco and get like pickles, like the pickle

juice from a Costco He drank pickle juice? Yes. He literally did it like he held it in the sandwich like gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp. That's disgusting. I just don't know how this guy's like trying to fill the hour. Like, I don't know, I guess. Here's things I'm afraid of.

Flying monkeys. Things I like. Pickle juice, watch this. Wait, so your mom is, oh God, your mom's gonna be gone. I don't know. Tulsa King was pretty good this week. So Chris, is this guy still alive?

I don't know. Do you know his name? I do not. Kids, gather around. You can help me all do my scratch-off tickets. I don't know when your mom's getting done. I was going to hope that the audience can help us find this man so that we could cost him in monkey-ckel. Give me a week to maybe try to think about it, but I do think he's gone.

We got to get him. Kind of reminds me of a fella we were at Purchase with who was deathly afraid of clowns. And then remember that time we were all drinking. And someone came up dressed as a clown. We used to folks at home. Because, you know, the RAs prowl the hallways of the doors. Oh, sure. Oh, yeah. We had to go out to the soccer fields to drink, you see.

So there we are, the middle of the night, drinking in the soccer field. Fucking dark, nothing there. Yeah. Some dude comes up in clown makeup in the middle of the night, and this guy was there. I've never seen. It's the closest I've seen to someone, like, just watching someone shit their pants. I was looking at this kid and I was like, I wonder if he's taking a shit right now. He was so, like, frozen in terror.

But he knew that it was a joke, so he had to. be kind of cool with it and he had to say face and ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It was just a gag or just a costumed person. A buddy of ours was going to do it. Okay, fun. Yeah. Because that's a thing. In front of a bunch of like 19, 18, 19 year old kids, you say

you're scared of clowns, guess what? Some drunk asshole the next weekend's put on clown maker. Yeah, this is exactly what I was trying to suggest to do to your elderly teacher. You know, I didn't think that fast back then, Eric. I was like only 10. Well, if you only had a brain. That would be nice. So the witch is like, all right, what can I do to slow these fuckers down

and possibly kill them? I know, a bump of fent. Uh-huh. It's like, we'll put the poison in the poppies, she says. Put the poison in the poppy fields. There's nothing in poppies that would otherwise make you sleepy. No. That's, you know.

Yeah, exactly. You've got to put additional poison in here. Dorothy, I'm sweating and I'm cold at the same time. This is alluding to when the CIA, you know, poisoned our beautiful crops that made us feel very good before that. Yeah, this part of Oz is supposed to be Afghanistan. Where the poppy field just flow. The flowers go to the Soviets.

They pay us off. So this is, yeah, poppies will put them to sleep and possibly make them OD, I guess. Also. And so it's like they get to this poppy field and cross the other side of the poppy field. You can see the Emerald City. So it's like, let's just, you know what? Fuck you, Yellow Brick Road. Let's get running through the poppy field.

feel like that's let's start running yeah oh's the lust for life starts playing passing out of oh boy mother superior this seems like a lot of hair a lot of poppies it's such a perfect day

I want to spend it with us uh yeah so she passes out first the lion also is affected of course yes of course What with actually having, like, blood and organs and whatnot. The other two are impervious to it. I don't breathe up a fucking tin thing. But this shows you that Tin Man and Scarecrow should smuggle.

They should be smugglers. Oh, nice. Like, scarecrow taking all the hay and he's just balloons. Balloons are you going to put whatever you want in there, dude? One of your straws busted my balloon. You're going to pay for that out of your straw ass. Oh, no. Ooh, my straw ass.

So they're like, oh, freaking out. Like, what are we going to do? Glinda comes in, you get, you get one fucking continue in the video game here. She comes in and she's like, oh, you know what can reverse a fento D? Snow. So she makes it snow. And, you know, Dorothy and the lion wake up and oh, fuck, the tin man rusted again. This guy's rusting way too fast, man. He's like a cheap pool.

Not great. I don't get it. We get our way to the door man here. Hell yeah, ringing a doorbell to get into a city is pretty great You rang a doorbell to get into the Bronx No, I was going to What do you want? I was going to dinner, me and my wife

We were actually, we were just about to see uncut gems It's whatever that came about four years ago maybe Yeah, 2019, I think And Go, the holiday season, this restaurant, we have, I have a reservation Okay Holiday season, it's a busy Italian restaurant strong, but look, I got a residence. I'm good.

Go in, you know, two for SADAC. I'm like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, your your mom called and she canceled this reservation, and I was like, what? What? What? Is it? Your mother called and canceled your reservation. I'm like, my mother doesn't live in New York. Why would, what? And then he's like, oh, just give me a second. And like,

he went back, and then he got us to table. I guess he was trying to trick us into just leaving because they were too busy. Yeah. But Why is my mother calling to kids? Dude, buddy, if you want to turn people away that have made rightful reservation, you got to do better than your mom. Hey, fucking 40-year-old guy, your mom called.

You're at an Italian restaurant. You're at an Italian restaurant. Just say, oh, Martin Scorsese is here. Oh, I'm so sorry. Then you would leave understandably. Oh, you're, like, what? That happens to me all the time. Oh, God damn it, Ma.

I'm going to fix her ass. We had a reservation. No one made up a fake story about family canceling the reservation, but we go in. It's a French restaurant on 40 seconds. It's a good, like, pre-theater spot. But it also means it's fucking packed. And we go in, and Chelsea had made a reservation. And they're like, oh, we're behind on the reservations.

It's going to be like 45 minutes to an hour. And I'm like, I was the sign. I was like, well, you know how to anybody can just take them? Yes, exactly. I was like, how do you, you fucking idiots? Like, you have to get people out of your restaurant faster. No. Unbelievable.

Anyway. The ring in the doorbell to get in. And yes, this is, uh, Professor Marvel's back as, uh, the doorman. And just like, no way, no how. Yeah. You can't get in. How do they, they, they, oh, uh. Well, because then didn't just see the sign.

Oh, yes. And it says doorbell broken knock, which is very funny. So they knock and he's like, now that's more like it. Come on in. A horse of a different color. in color and this man how many horses died at this scene? At least seven. Yeah. Because much

like fucking Buddy Epson, the reaction to the hair dye that we're using on these thing. You got a purple horse, you got a fucking yellow horse running around. I'm going to say this for the fourth time. We got tumors on these horses. There's another damn horse with tumors all over it. Dustin Hoffman and Nick Nelty come back up.

You're going to need these horses or what? Yeah, I can get rid of him for you. Gotta make him start a shot. short-lived TV show! Well, now that's a horse of a different color, and I mean a dead one. Have you ever eaten a horse? They're delicious. Oh, man.

They get it. I love the part in this where it's like, oh, we're in the Emerald City, but we're going to see the Wizard, but we need to glow up first. Yeah, well, this is like the ho-ho, ha, ha, we're all having fun songs or whatever. Yeah, scarecrow's getting his stuffing put back in. The Tin Man's getting a butt buff right here. They're using the fucking Sander on this guy, polish it up good. Give me some royal.

Give me pretty woman here. Could you get me some rust treatment, please? Just give me a coat. Can I get some true coat on me? Just even the fucking cheap shit they use at the car wash. I'm dying out of here. Oh, yeah, that undercoat and that's going to cost extra. Oh, Tin Man, you're going to need a new Johnson Rod.

That's what Tin Man asked for over the heart. He's like, can I get some undercoating, I guess, is what they call it. Ooh, yes, Tin Man. Legally, I can't even let you leave the lot the way you are right now. Because then I could lose my license. I can't do that. I got a family here. You're not going to pass inspection, buddy.

Have you checked on your break pads recently? Because I'm going to tell you, they don't look good. Thank you. Destined for the tin man crush if you asked me. Turn in a nice little cube. You can put you on a desk. You don't even have an engine in here. They said there's a tin man.

It was expected to see a tip man, not a lemon. Dorothy gets a little bit of a hairdo here. Toto gets a little grooming going on. Do they dye Dorothy's hair redder than it was? I was trying to remember. I had no idea. The lion gets his famous bow in the hair. Love that.

Love his little bow looking cute, looking like a little Miss Pac-Man. Adorable. But yeah, this is the Merry Old Land of Oz song. And we've got this, the witch doing skywriting right here. Yeah, this big surrender, Dorothy. It's pretty cool. Eloquent, loved it. but so

it's you know we're going to run up to see the wizard now and here's Frank Morgan again as as the guard pulls the fucking not nobody not know how scheme again and the lion what does the lion say here oh this is

I was trying to deduce my note what I meant here the lion so this is after the spa day and he's like you can't see the wizard no way no how and the lion says like what are you kidding me I even got a permanent for this When did society shorten that to just, I got a perm? What a fascinating little thing right there.

I got a permanent. I think it was under Carter. Really? That late- You'll have permanent early bugs buddy cartoons as well. I think the 60s-ish probably. It must be. It had to have been before the release of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Carter. Four teenagers got haircuts. John Laracette is telling us all about it Yeah actually Dorothy herself Judy Garland paid in weed For this movie Actually as a matter of fact

Bullshit pay disparity thing here Those three fucking carnies all got paid Like three grand a week Judy Garland for this entire movie $500. Wow. Hell yeah Dude it's rock I got it I'll go buy yourself

Some candy little girl Here's some barbiturates to put in your system Courtesy of the studio Here's all your candy Here's your hard candy but yeah so this is like oh this is

this is where the lion sings the king song okay because I wrote the movie stops dead so the lion can get his own song about if he was a king oh right

and so that's it's an awful song I really really slows down the action it does it stops in the middle I've got to go fucking listen to Oz

just tell me 17 times silence and I just get me there get me there The cool thing, though, is when he's taught you, the whole song's about if I was a king or whatever, when the tin man just picks up this vase, probably a priceless artifact in the Emerald City

smashes it to make the crown to put on it. What an asshole. Take that artifact. At least it didn't go to an English museum. That's true. But that's a lot of courage to go someone's city destroy shit. Well, yeah, because Oz is fucking keeping me waiting. I got to go talk to this guy.

That's fair. We're in the waiting room. Let's do the waiting room. song. Sitting in the waiting room, uh-huh. So the guard comes back down and he's like, uh, sorry, the wizard told you to

fuck off. I don't know what to tell you. The wizard will see you next week or next month. Oh, yeah, that's what it is. And Dorothy starts crying here, you know, I'm never going to get back to Annie M and everything like that. And then we cut to the guard and they've got this effect going where he's just got this water coming up. He looks like Ted Stranger from airplane. It's just all of this

water is going down this dude's face. It rules. what is that what's that lady's stuff you're doing right now oh that's that crying oh no don't do that okay fine you can see the wizard yeah they they get right in to see him here and he gives them the business about needing a heart and a brain current is all he's a big green head you see yeah silence oh chimney crickets yes yeah uh i love when he turns the line he goes and you lion and the line passes out immediately fucking coward god damn it really living up to his name here And this guy's like, what did I put my singer?

It's a big green head out. Yeah, and he's like, I decree you go, do a political assassination of that witch. Exactly. Then I'll send you home. You just got to kill her first. Kill my enemies. Yeah.

And it's 1939, in many ways we were clutching pearls on some things. We weren't clutching pearls on other things. It's just straight up, when again, like in a kid-centric movie, you just go kill her. Yeah. and come back and we're saying kill kill kill kill well remember in 1939 like your dad killed some

people like not even in war right sure like just coming home argument about a fence post once like everyone was a murderer back then that's right so that you know they're kind of like oh god kill someone I don't know who goes get out and get going and the lion

freaks out and I love this dude taking a head around the window it's incredible just like he doesn't even care if he lives to see the rest of adventure. He's that scared. Done with it. Oh, I'm sorry, we can't get you her broom. See, when we killed her back then, we

wrapped her body up in this stuff, and then we pushed her over the ship's bow into the ocean. And she's just dead. You know, that's it. No need for autopsy or nothing like that. No, he's just gone. You don't want to martyr her, you know. Oh, that's true. That's true.

Yeah. So we're back, we're going through the haunted forest, making our way to the witch's castle. I love it. They're all, at some point, I think we missed the montage where they went back down to the marketplace area of the Emerald City and went to the weapons store because we've got witch remover spray,

speaking of like Looney Tunes or Batman. The Tin Man has a pistol. Hell yeah. And then I've turned your hand into a gun. Scarecrow, I think, might have the pistol. Tin Man has a huge wrench in his hand and the lion's got this big old, animal butterfly net.

Would the axe be better than the bench? Yeah, that should be. Yeah, please. What's a net going to do? Give me a chainsaw already. To catch a broom? You're going to catch a broom in a net? I don't know how it's going to work, man. Sounds stupid. But so the wicked witch is watching all this unfolding, oh, they're coming to kill me,

are they? And this is of course the Fly My Preeties. She sends them all out. Just God damn it, it's terrifying and disgusting at the same time. Dorothy N. Toto get kidnapped here. Yes. this is where she the yeah

kidnapped but this is also we were talking about the scarecrow is torn to shreds and he goes they tore my legs off and threw them over there

they tore my chest out and threw it over there it's so fucking I've been ripped a pod help me I'm falling apart here oh it's like a bunch of zombies came from my intestines Dominic I mean tin man

I'm like the glasses guy and Sean of the dead So the witch says that she wants them slippers off her feet Or else she's going to drown this dog Tarantino said the same thing You're going to take out the shoes Jan I'm going to drown your dog all right The third direct threat on this dog

Absolutely this dog's fucking dodging bullets left and right It's crazy And Dorothy wishes she just can't take these shoes off And there's a weird thing where like The witch goes for this lightning that stops her A security device right there. Great effect. Yeah, I really like this.

The cover of Electra Light Orchestra's El Dorado record is just this. Oh, yes, that's right. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That looks familiar in my brain. I've seen that before. She says the shoes won't come off until Dorothy is dead. Got to get your heart to stop beating before I can get these little shoes off your tuxies. And then she's like, you know what?

I'm going to give you an hour for some reason. I've got other things to do. Unless you ever want to try this. I ever see the motion picture of Flatliners? Well, the new Tulsa King is out right now, and I want to watch it. So you have one hour to live. We're in Manfredi Mania over here. Oh, I forgot.

That's another great part about watching Tulsa King. Every episode's about 40-some-odd minutes. I have time to take a shit, too. Then you get back here and give me them slippers. Is that Martin Star? Who's she in this? What is he doing in this show? TotoMese.

I love Tulsa King. I was going to say Toto makes a nice little valiant escape Yeah, he does Go Toto go Hero of the fucking film man Forget these three vagabonds Well they're just like still fucking

Piece of the goddamn Scarecrow back together He doesn't need every piece of straw Okay Yeah no seriously If anything you'd stand to lose a little weight Scarepro I see what's going on there

You can put other straw in there too It doesn't have to be those pieces of straw Oh yeah stuff them with drinking straw It's fine in there And now I'm curious Because we do the thing Classically it's great watching this dog go up and down, this mound.

It's adorable. But we go back to the witch's castle. Dorothy's time is running out. We're watching the, oh, we, oh, we're I love these guys. The guards. I always wanted to know, when is the first time we did the, I'm going to dress as the guard

to get into the area? Right, because that's one of my favorite film tropes. And I've seen it in 1940s movies as well. We were talking about it on Return of the King a couple weeks back. I know this gun for hire does it I think 1941 movie but it had to have existed even before right

maybe the cereals did it for all I know probably I mean did Alan Ladd like have his feet up in there be like oh my God I gotta get my pants because you know Indiana Jones does it every day yeah that's all serial inspired so I've got to be Star Wars were dressing as people it's 20s 30s probably early 30s I mean this struck me specific

at least they're like the way they do it it is very vaudeville it is very like ritz brothers three stooges stuff where like they're like oh my god and they like flip up and all their feet are in the air like it's more about like the end result is less important than how you're getting there yes for this kind of gag yes um and it's great they do a little defying of the expectations here because it's the three guards that get the drop on them yes and it's all that like the lion's tails coming up and things are flying this way if it was a cartoon it would be a big ball and you couldn't see any of it. Well, if you have that pistol, what are you heard it go off three times? Like, oh my God, Tin Man, you killed them all. Yeah, well, I need this heart. Okay.

It's mine now. God damn it. Don't mind the blood on the metal. Dude, that the Tin Man just rips the heart out of the guards. Yes. And then they cut up in the brain of one. Now, yeah, you see, Tin Man, when there's not blood pumping through it, it rocks. And this is, oh, oh, my.

Just shove a, shove a, rock. rotting brain into the scarecrow. I think I'm too cowardly to deal with this murder beef. Oh, but look at this. What's that? Oh, it's a little something on his belt here. A little bit of liquid courage. I'll take it.

The bitch and man's like, hey, here you go, Lion. I found his balls. Here you go. A couple of them for you. That's what you need, right? Some balls, lions. You know, hey, Lion, how about this? I got the balls off all three of them.

That's how Brave you are lying. You got six balls now. Weese your thighs together and you'll catch it. And you can just sway them back and forth. Oh, man. So they break Dorothy out. Tin Man, pull a little fucking Jack Torrens here, axing the shit out of this door.

Yeah, it's great. Really love this. Scarecrow drops a chandelier on these guards, which is these guards are getting fucked up. It's awesome. I'm trying to watch fucking Tulsa King. Also, a lot of great mat paintings here. Yeah.

Oh, terrific. It reminds you, like, somehow, like, I don't know why. Running a Mario car, like one of the castles you'd be driving around in Mario Kart, one of Bowser's Castle? Yes. Oh, yeah. Did he buy this after she died? I think the States.

Oh, wait, is it? You're telling me she died in here. You got to lower the price a little bit. Stop bothering me. Tosa King's over, but Yellowstone 180 AD is on now. 188. The Bronze Age. Oh, yeah, it's still a tough guy.

Oh, yeah, I love that. Hey, shut the fuck up out there. Garrett Hedlin's singing a goddamn song in Tulsa King. Shut up. You know what's kind of yellow? Bronze age, Yellowstone. We got young upstart, Jimmy Stewart, as the head of the Yellowstone family. The witch, though, great line here.

The last to go is going to be Dorothy. Because she's going to see the, she's going to see the first three go. before her and the dog. I'm going to kill your whole friend group in front of you. Absolutely. So awesome. Something that like every like like pro-apartheid villains from lethal weapon two said two fucking rigs. Like diplomatic immunity, Dorothy.

What do you think about that? I do. I think it's earlier on she threatens the tin men. She got to turn him into a beehive, which is a bizarre threat. Although it would work on me. I don't want to be turning into a beehive. No, sure. Well, like, what?

It's like she ran out of things. Exactly. He's like, I want to turn you into a fucking storage material thing. What? I'm going to keep some old books in you. I'm going to use you to store garbage in. You're just a garage. That would actually be saying you're going to make them a garbage can.

That's garbage can. I'm going to chop your head off and make you a garbage can. Yeah, there you go. I love it. There's so many ways to threaten Tin Man to make it funny. I'm going to make you a pail for my shit. I'm going to shit in you, Tin Man. Yes, of course we don't have any plumbing.

It's just holes and buckets. It's true. You walk into the sewer to shit. How fucked up is this, Ted, man? I'm going to cut you in half and then make a metal suit out of you and wear you around. How fucking weird is that? She's doing it again, huh? You know what?

Let's just fly in the air and make boo-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, noises. But the witch, in a very fucked up turn, love this movie. Just lights this scarecrow on fire. Yes. Just lights them on fire. And what did you think was going to happen, you idiot? There's a big bucket of water there. Fucking moron.

First of all, if you're the witch, there should be any water anywhere near your castle. The question becomes, did she know? And I would say the answer is yes, only because if she doesn't know, the first time she ever tried to take a shower, she'd kill herself. Which also means, I'm sorry, the wicked witch of the West, she smells like shit. And I'm sure that's how her mother went and how some of her sisters went. that very thing and not knowing and just being like, oh, fuck, fuck! I got a big hot date.

Oh, no, I'm burning alive. I'm from the alien planet from signs. It doesn't even, like, you don't even need a constant stream. She gets a splash of water and it's done so. It's just a dash. Just a dash will do you. But beautiful here, sequence of her melting, right?

And I'm going to tell you, this is. Oh, what a Tulsa King episode to go out on. I mean, it's a cliffhanger. What I want to do. Oh, my God, I'm not going to know how Dwightman Freddie gets out of jail! Did I hear her next time in the middle of that? Oh, what a world, what a world. This is the second accidental murder caused by Dorothy Gale in this world.

I got to say, two witches down. Two witches down. Fucking two more to go. We don't know what's going on with the good witch of the South man. I would be taking pictures of this and show him Miss Galtz. Look, you want to get melted? I can do that shit. I didn't feel a fucking thing when she melted in the ground.

I've fucking killed people before. handing like a photo of a dead person on a Polaroid? I think I love this fucking dog. You think I love you? Are you fucking out of your mind? I would drown you in your own blood. I bet Miss Gulch also can't touch water, dude. Oh, yeah. So she's running that town, but she also smells

like shit, and that's why it's like, yeah, you can have whatever you want, just get away from me. Yeah, I caught her last night. She was just eating dust. I guess that's how she replenishes herself. Hail Dorothy, the wicked witch is dead. All these guards immediately put their arms down and just walk out. And again, that's why you got to take

better care of the people who work for you. That's why the penguin, that's why he does well. Yep. He's fucking, he looks after his workers. Yes. And yes, he lets a couple of them get exploded. Sure. That's fine.

That's the name of the game. But you know what? He walks in pre-battle, you know, and he says things like, uh, well, you know, we're not much of an army, but I wouldn't have it any other way with you guys. You know what I mean? It's that kind of like whirling this together. You're all great. I love you all.

Now you're all my flying monkeys, okay. Vic, if somebody sprays me with water, you got to, avenge my death, all right? What? Just try to throw some sand on me. That might reverse it. If you seem to get stuck in hit with water, Vic. Look the other way.

It's going to be very upsetting. You know our hideout is like a water main way. I know, I'm living on the edge, Vic. Every day I'm living on the edge, just like the Aerosmith song that my mom loved. She don't love it no more, though. She only listens to jazz now. That's why I wear stuff that wicks.

I like to have a wicking wardrobe. It's great. I think it's Dorothy that has one of the, One of them just goes, we melted her. Yeah, like, someone's going to be like, the fuck? It's just like, we didn't. Wow, I can't even believe it. I just murdered another woman.

Well, the guards are like, she never told us that was going to happen. I didn't know what's that easy. I would have done a fucking years. No wonder, we didn't ever had a beach day. They have to take the broom as proof of death. That's right. That's right. The guards are more than willing to hand us over.

They just got a free castle. Just covered in fucking witch goo. though, like, I don't know. Oh, yeah. But we go back to the Emerald City. We go back to see the wizard. He turns out to just be a cowardly douchebag after all. Toto, Reveal of the film.

Of course. Yes, that's my boy. This is what he's like, oh, come back tomorrow. I'll figure out a way tomorrow. Yeah. You know what? I'll bring the code in tomorrow. Now, you know what?

Go do something else for me and then I'll do it. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, Toto notices this is your classic. And it is, I mean, it's just a, amazing line that you can use so much as it's, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

That is a line that has worked its way into some quite serious discussions in the real world over the years. You know what I mean? It's fascinating that this movie has had that kind of pull. It's mind-boggling when you really kind of try to think about it for a second.

You're saying that album cover, like, every month, Surrender Dorothy is a huge, you know, phrase. Like, every, there's just you can piecemeal this movie. out almost frame by frame practically. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So this is like okay, he's going to go do the run here of giving them everything and he's

like, hey, stupid, you already have a brain, but here's a diploma, I guess because I got to give you something. It's really like, I don't know, these days you need a college diploma, so here you're not going to be able to get a job without one of these. It's almost saying like the college education really doesn't matter. Those people that act smart because they have a piece

of paper. And he does the classic, he grabs a diploma and now he knows the square root of the tri-hyposinous Yeah, blah, blah, blah. It was just humorous bit as well. I do love the lot

The Timman gets this weird heart clock that he got Well, I got a sports illustrated a subscription And they gave this to me So why don't you use it? It's great. It has all sorts of alarms for you.

It's got a snooze button, you see? It's fantastic. What does he call it? Like a statement, testament? Yeah, the Wizards It says the Tin Man needs a testimonial. Testimonial, which is a clock with a heart of it. It's like, yeah, oh, I got this at Spencer Gifts and I don't want it anymore.

The cool thing is, if you have it in your bedroom and you turn out all the lights, there's a little glow thing that tells you the time on the ceiling of your bedroom. Oh, and here, Lion, here's some stolen valor for you. They gave him a medal, but not Chewbacca. Interesting. For meritorious conduct, which I really like. Wait, so this says something about the ride on it. What does that mean?

Dude, there was something the wizard says about, like, yeah, this is something that we give out on the day when we honor all people like you. And I was like, is the wizard talking about Veterans Day? Like, what's happening here? It's so, the way he sets up giving him this, like, medal of courage. I was like, it kind of sounds like you're talking about Veterans Day. I mean, I guess it was a war, but, like, really, you just killed this old lady. Now do Dorothy. Now do Dorothy.

I just want to go back to Kansas. oh fuck small world what no you didn't say kansas did you oh my god myself the wizard of oz is actually from the wizard of kansas originally i'm professor oz actually and he's like oh i was flying my balloon at the fair or whatever the fuck and i got swept up in this twister interesting right because the balloon says state fair omaha yes which is not in kansas yeah i don't know what that maybe you know what it is nebraska it was long kansas it's part it's like fargo it all takes place around. I see. I was thinking maybe it's a thing where like the fair

was happening in Kansas, but he was coming from Nebraska to participate with his balloon there. But he said he's an old Kansas man. Oh, yeah. Well, you know what he's full shit. He's a charlatan. He is. We went through a portal and I'm just so happy because in that other world, I was

James Franco. That the story he tells right there is what the Sam Ramee movie is about is how Oz got to, the wizard got to Oz. You know, I never saw it. I've never saw that. That, I believe, was the final thing I was honored to see at the Ziegfeld Theater. Oh, really?

And it was, you know, I remember specifically, we took my younger sister, who's me and Chelsea, and the movie sucks shit. We all fucking knew it. And I was like, so, huh? What did you think? And my sister was like, well, the theater is very nice. I was like, accurate. You got a beautiful house you home.

Over, that was the best episode of Ippie and Dippy I ever said. saw it. Man, we walked by the fucking Zingfeld the other night. I just wanted to throw up right in front of the lobby. It's disgusting. Yeah, it's still it's like Zingfeld something or other hall. And I'm like, I used to work around the block and saw them throwing it all out.

Like all these ornate things is right in the trash. We are a pigish country. God damn. I know I would get my ass kick, but I always spit on those people. Just get the fuck before you're fucking doing. They look pretty tough. See, I know it, but like I would have to. If I only had some balls.

I do love... I'd spit on a worker. Anyway, go ahead. Make sure I'm not a lurker if I only had some balls. That's where you fail right there. I don't think it's very important whether or not this adventure is a dream. I actually never think that's important. Yeah.

The adventure is the adventure. But I do love the dream logic of like, it's all going to work out. Oh, no, I'm going away. You know what I mean? Like, it is such a dream thing. It's a stress dream. Exactly. It's like, oh, no, everything's going to be great.

No, but I'm going away and I have no way of coming back. And this is because Toto fucks them right here. Another, she jumps out of the fucking basket. Another bogus move by Toto here. He's been fucking her over countless times. Would she have ended up back home if she stayed in that, though? No, she would have been murdered by the story.

Yeah, murdered by the wizard or like they're caught in some upstream and killed. Or they get, you know, a plan. Well, it's 1939. Jets aren't invented. Something horrible would be. You know, Dora, a man does have need. How long is this balloon ride It's supposed to last?

No, you don't have to get me a meal I had a roasted Dorothy on my way here. I just, you know, made a little fire and the little, it was nice. Well, they're like early jets, right? You'd be like cut down by a measure schmidt. Oh, yeah, I guess that's true.

Yeah. Or a Japanese zero. It's terrifying, though, because she's like, hey, just bring it back down here so I can get on it. He's like, I don't know how this works. Goodbye. That's great. I think that dude's going to his own death.

Yes, absolutely. You're going to operate this contraption. He's not a free. there's no provisions no no and also like how do you recreate I mean you both came here in a twister yeah what's going on yeah uh so

wouldn't you know it's it's miserable but you know now the gang is at least like we didn't want you to go it's kind of great you're sticking around exactly we can make a life out of this it's all right you can work at the salon I mean honestly wouldn't you want to live a magical world as opposed to fucking Kansas in 1939

yeah probably but he Oz leaves the scarecrow in charge oh yeah of the world yes absolutely it's a very sensible man yep president for life scarecrow over here he's gonna be dressed like

edie amine in the next movie I mean if she's I mean if she stays in Oz though like who's gonna kill her dog nobody true like come on so you're gonna get the thing done the good witch has to show up and be like you always had the power

yes exactly it was in you the ruby slippers and I love the I think the scarecrow's like why the fuck didn't you say that the first was oh well she wouldn't have believed it. Actually, I wanted her to kill that other witch. Yeah, totally. I set this whole thing up. And now there's a perfect what

what we'll call kiddies a power vacuum, you understand. You're a pawn in my game. You got rid of the two witches and a wizard. Pretty good, Dorothy. You understand the Galadryl. Can't get her hands dirty. Galatrical. We have two people. And it's because, you know, we didn't tell

because she had to learn the lesson. Yes. That there's no place like home. That's what it is. By the way, we're talking about a lot of horrific imagery in this movie. The Tin Man Crying Oil, that's unsettling. That's rough. And I like that they actually

put the time in to like dye the water a little bit. It's not just like water like tears. It's gross. It's fucking like dark brown like black ooze coming out of this guy's eyes. This is the Lynch stuff. This is the stuff he liked. He was like, oh, ooze.

Oh, I'll take note about that. Crying oil is horrifying. but you know she's glinda's like hey man now that i got you to do my dirty work baby just click them heels and you'll be back where you need to be and she does she misses she will miss the scarecrow most of all well i of course he was the coolest yeah well also like the first friend she really made apparently if there's uh to be believe the i'd be trivia had in a different draft of the script hunk who is the scarecrow surrogate in the real world was supposed to be going off to college and say he was going to write her a bunch.

Oh, a little sweetheart situation. Implying that there might be a romantic thing, which is, which would be paid off with the, and this might be a remnant of that sort of idea. Oh, okay. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. So was there anything there, any notion or idea of how accurate to, like, the book this is? No, it just, I mean, it seems like, well, obviously the, the dream part, like, the fact that we really land pretty hard

on this is pretty much a dream is again because it's that 1930s realism like we barely were allowed to talk about fantasy without a fucking disclaimer sure not always a dream it's a little baby's dream it's all right folks at home this movie is not an affront to your Lord Jesus Christ

we're getting back there eventually we'll have these things again those warnings will be coming back absolutely absolutely so yeah they didn't do the audience and apparently there was like so many scripts of it that were so dour and just like trying to rip all the fantasy out because Nobody thought that it would hit.

You know what I mean? Nobody thought people wanted to watch that. And this is, I don't know, I mean, trust the artist and not the studio every time. Like this is 80 fucking five-year-old movie. It's one of the most beloved classics of all time. Why would people want to run into fantasies from current events? I cannot, I cannot, give it to me.

I don't know what to tell you. I don't know why they do it. I just, you know, turn your head from the Holocaust? It sounds great. But yeah, of course, this is one of the, Most parodied parts of all time. You were there, you were there, and you too. I love that Professor Marvel just sticks his head into the window.

I'd be like, what fuck's this guy? Get off my property. Yeah, what the fuck? Oh, you know, I return your daughter safe and shower. I think that's worth a little something. I'm looking right of you, Annie M, and I ain't talking about food. You see, these farmhands in your family here, I've already poisoned them, so get ready for a real whore.

What do you say, I marry your daughter here? How about that, huh? How does that fit you? I know. She's a little old at 16, but I'll take her hand in marriage. And the marriage, she becomes a professor, too, you understand. A little old. It's 1939, and I'm a traveling man of letters.

Hey, hug, I got the shotgun. What if we get up to our old tricks? I told you, I left that life behind. Henry A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. It's dead. Dead, I said. Dead. I love that she's like, it's like, you know, it was a beautiful, magical land. Most of it was very pretty. I did kill two people. So I came back From my adventure with a body cow

How'd you kill him? Well, one of them was crushed by a house And the other one was melted down to nothing by water Oh, well, thank God it was just that kind of body cat Well, those two bitches got in my way, you understand And then, oh, N-EM, there's no place like home Bam-ba-ba-Bah, the other And interesting also, I don't know if this says anything

But all of the characters are only credited as their Kansas counterparts. It's not scarecrow timidant. Which also like, that's going to be impossible of like, which one were you? I don't remember. Exactly. They don't have an I MDB to consult. Exactly. I know who the fucking scarecrow is, you know?

Right. Well, if you got to convince someone, you just do some of those mannerisms, that physical comedy. Oh, that's right. Here, I'll prove to you I was in the Wizard of Oz. Watch me comically throw myself on the floor. Exactly. That is the end of the Wizard of Oz, of course. We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts. Eric's

yes it's very good i i i love the colors and the like steve said you could go through frame by frame and find the future of the medium and culture in this home yeah totally so it's a classic and uh check it out i understand andrew doesn't like some of the songs though it's just the one yeah i kind of don't like it either nobody likes that breaking my balls you used think it sucks too uh chris Oh, a great movie. I think it holds up immensely. What I think what I like about the most is that it does have that scrappiness to it. There is a certain, you can still see the thing being put together while you're in the movie. And there's a certain type of movie that can make that balance and really make it work. And I think this is one of the first obvious examples of that. All the acting's great. Frank Morgan. Woo. Yeah, nothing but good things to say. Stephen. Yeah. This, like I said, that's about two. two years ago. It's probably a little too soon to rewatch it again, even though I really enjoyed it. It's a great movie to be rewatched every

couple of years. It's really fun. It's legitimately funny or laughing at it. The songs are great. The visuals are fantastic. And again, like the acting is just so you just don't see acting like this. I feel like, you know, it's that old vaudevillian thing that died out. But like, these people could do

fucking everything you needed. They could do acrobats. Tell jokes, sing. Whatever you needed them to do. They were talented people. They just didn't make a fuck tape on the internet and then get famous. Exactly. And I will say, though, you might be out there being like, oh, this might be a fun movie to take drugs to. It is, just be careful. Do the stuff that you know, you know what I mean? Don't take strains that you know what it does to you, you know what I mean? Because you can take a dark turn with this shit real quick. Absolutely. You want to make

sure that your strain is in balance for you to have a nice mellow time for this. Because you'll get freaked out. Oh, yeah. You'll get freaked out hard. I was, sober as a judge and I was freaked out pretty hard yesterday we'd watch it it. It's kind of interesting. I'd wonder, you know, we got a lot of young listeners out there. I'd wonder how much this movie's coming up with younger audiences. Like, are you going back

to it? And I would suggest if you're a younger person who hasn't watched this yet, certainly you've seen it reference, you've seen frames of it, all that stuff. You've heard the songs from it. Check it out in full. It's 102 minutes. It goes by really quickly and it's one of the best things you're going to see from the media.

My is the name. It's the name. of that counselor eric i'm just that just that just came out of the actual name i'm now i got a sense for this trail you go on facebook and then i waste your life over there well well eric researches whatever stalking duties is going to doing for chris's camp counselor that is the end of this episode um of course if you listen to this without commercials that means you're a patreon subscriber of course if you had commercials and you don't like them patreon dot com slash we ate movies we can help you fix that right quick uh it has been we

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After with the third season of Melrose play, it's already kicking off perhaps the worst episode of 902.1. Get ready for that one. That is airing this Friday, the 29th. If you were listening to this, the day it comes out, the 29th. So the day after American Thanksgiving, get some Melrose, Melrose 210 where we are talking about a Christmas episode. Yeah, so that's great.

Right after Thanksgiving, you're ready for. Christmas content. You're ready for Christmas content, including as the show rolls on next week, what are we talking about? I believe we're doing a live episode of Jersey City. That's right. Santa Claus. That is right. We're rough, rough indeed. Yeah, we're going to give ourselves some time to spend with family for the holiday, of course. So taking a week off, but the live show from White Eagle Hall in Jersey City, New Jersey. Great episode. This was from last December. It's a lot of fun. And, you know, because I don't know that we're going to necessarily put a bumper on the end of or whatever. Folks want to know. We always drop these live

episodes and I'm like, what's coming up next? Steve Sadek the holiday content will roll on the following week after the Santa Claus live show with what? Deck the halls. Matthew Broderick joint that I've never seen before. Ah! It's terrible. I'll tell you this. In the first like six minutes of the

movie, Matthew Broderick is sexually humiliated by Danny DeVito. Nice. Pretty good. It's everywhere you want to be. Is that scene on Pornhub? Can I show there? I think it might be yeah they made some adjustments to it pretty soon that's all it's going to be on porn hub under holiday content i believe perfect uh but uh that's it the thanks for tuning into we love movies month has been a lot of fun yes the show goes back to regular programming next week when we return

with a live episode all on tim allen in the santa claus until then i've been andrewing stephen's ed eric siska chris kavin take it easy Thank you.