We Hate Movies - S15 Ep792: Enemy of the State

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

“You got your Oscar, which was an unfortunate night for everyone…” - Steve on Will Smith On this week’s episode, we’re kicking off a two-episode tribute to the legendary Gene Hackman with a convo about the better-than-you-remember surveillance thriller, Enemy of the State! First off, this ain’t no sequel to The Conversation, let’s get that straight! But you do have an amazingly cranky and paranoid Gene Hackman running around with a nearly never-better Will Smith as they dodge Jon Voight and his stable of late-90’s Gen-X character actors! Why was the great Jason Robards uncredited? Same question for Philip Baker Hall! Why couldn’t a rocket hit Jamie Kennedy and Seth Green’s surveillance van? And how incredible is that effect shot with Jason Lee and the firetruck? PLUS: Brill interrogates the Peanuts Gang! Enemy of the State stars Will Smith, Jon Voight, Lisa Bonet, Regina King, Stuart Wilson, Barry Pepper, Ian Hart, Jake Busey, Scott Chan, Jason Lee, Gabriel Byrne, James Le Gros, Dan Butler, Jack Black, Jamie Kennedy, Bodhi Elfman, Anna Gunn, Lillo Brancato, John Capodice, Ivana Milicevic, Grant Heslov, Seth Green, Philip Baker Hall, Jason Robards, Tom Sizemore, and the late, forever great, Gene Hackman as Brill; directed by Tony Scott. This episode is brought to you in part by Rocket Money. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney dot com slash WHM today. That’s RocketMoney dot com slash WHM! Tickets are on sale now for our three-night residency during the Oxford Comedy Festival! We’ll be doing six shows over three nights from July 18 through 20, doing shows like WHM, W❤️M, The Nexus, The Gleep Glossary, and Animation Damnation! Tickets are going fast, so friends over there, snag your tix!  Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

This week on the program, it's sort of like the Blade Runner 2049 of mid-70s Paranoid thrillers. It's Enemy of the State. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Siddak. Eric of the State. Chris Cabin. And we hate movies. Hello everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies.

Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. The two, we're the first half of a double dose of honoring Gene Hackman this month. We're talking about, and I almost said the fucking Blink Way 2 title. No, no, no. The Blinkway 2 album was Enum. of the state, but this movie is enemy of the state. From 1998 directed by, of course, the late great Tony Scott. Why did I clear out my asshole? Because you made a phone call.

This porn star is giving me ass trouble. Sorry to let down all the I know you're out there, the port heads, the moose port heads. I know. There was a possibility. We didn't discuss it. Oh, man. I thought they were going to talk about my movie. I put that guy away.

He was bothering everybody on the big screen and finally, I made sure he didn't do movies ever again. And of course, we are doing two Gene Hackman movies because his passing is doubly sad. That's right. Just keep that shit out of your inbox. Yes, that's right. Don't look it up.

The We Love movies on Patreon. This month will be the conversation, sort of a companion piece. And this movie's the companion piece. And that is why, because Steve was looking at me like I had 16 fucking heads when I did that intro, but it makes sense if you think about it. Oh, no, no, it really does.

Oh, because you're, I thought, man, you are so hard to. me and Steve because you were just looking like this fucking moron I you I just I have bety eyes I'm sorry it's plagued me in my entire life but we've known each other for over 20 years I think as we get older they're getting beatier and it just looks like angrily squinting tell the demons to sit down tell them to sit down so should I get an anima folks at home write it have you gotten one oh yeah what are your experiences because like yeah I could see the benefits of absolutely out yeah the lower body

dude it's really not that bad you got it absolutely oh yeah did you do it yourself or was somebody helping you out today it was a it was a self situation oh no so they so guy didn't put a vacuum cleaner up there no I was preparing for a medical procedure and had to do one and uh you know that really wasn't that bad really now I can buy this I can get one of the yeah and it's very refreshing it's like hitting the reset button on your asshole that's great is it the same thing as a colonic uh I don't think is that that That's when the doctor checks have you got, like, cancer in the ass or something. No, that's a colonoscone.

That was the procedure I was preparing for. I'll say that on the air, whatever. Is it all right? Is it okay? As far as I know, pretty good. That was a few years back. No, you know what happens here? Yeah, I put the whole vacuum cleaner up there. It's all of it.

You want to know something that's interesting here? If I push you right on the stomach here, the cord goes in. Whole course goes right back in there. That's what happens. You know, I've been working here for a while now, 10 years on the job high there. And I'm telling you that that is. It gets them every time. It eases the patient.

Oh, he's working overtime. So, no, the enema now, when you had, like, the enema industrial complex is like a whole steak's going to come out when you do this. Is it going to be, is there a lot? I'm not getting into this. I'm not going to talk about a Will Smith. That's a yes. How interested are you in seeing? I would be like, you know what?

Whatever's in that? No, I mean, you know, they say it's like red meat, it's red meat or whatever. You know what, it was actually It was a whole fucking 12-course dinner. Is that what you want to fucking hear? Yes, that was. I don't know. For all I know, there's 20 pounds. A whole steakhouse feast fucking fell out.

Oh, really? It's surfing turf, huh? And most of a lobster tail. No rules just right. All this to say. My boardrunner comment. Way back when. I know it was clever.

Jesus Christ. I couldn't tell it through the beadiness. The hateful beans. That's true. He looks very hateful. Just that this is, you know, a lot of people think it's like, you know, consider this like a spiritual sequel to the conversation. And structurally, similarly, you're waiting for Hackman to come into this movie, just like you're waiting for Harrison Ford in 2049.

And most of the movie follows a new character. And then at like the tail end of 2049, you get Harrison Ford, an hour into this movie, you get Gene Hacks. And it's also like, you know, thematic, not even thematically, I want to say stylistically, you know, similar. Like, you know what I mean? You're aging it up. You know what I mean? It was 70s paranoia. This is 90s, you know, fucking Michael Bay nonsense.

Quick cuts. Quick cuts. Predicting the future. Absolutely. This was Will Smith's first, like, serious drama action movie. And I think he fucking pulls it off, man. I think he's so good at this movie. That was the thing that struck me last day.

I was like, he is holding my fucking attention. He used to be a movie star. I completely forgot. He needs to get back to this stuff. I guess in Bad Boys, he's sort of trying. He's trying. You got your King Richard out of the way. You got your stupid Oscar.

Entertain me again. Yes, yeah. Because for a while he was doing either like weirdo niche sci-fi that no one gave a shit about. After Earth. After Earth, the whatever. The Hi-Robo. The, uh, what's the one where he's old and young, uh, the Gemini. Gemini, man.

Like, all that shit. It was either that or like Oscar bait nonsense. You got your Oscar, which was an unfortunate night for everybody. But it happened. We've all moved past it. Yeah. Weird. Weird dads.

Yeah. That was his, that's been his thing for a while now. Is playing weird dads, or I guess in certain cases, weird husband. Yes. That's more. That's real life, right? Well, yes, that also. Weird humiliated husband.

You can double it up there. She's getting like stooped every day. Is that the thing? Well, that was that we've talked about it several times. They throw her on the red table. Right, they put her on the red table. There's a ceremony. I appreciate you keeping her name by your mouth.

I would never say her name because I already forgot it, even though she was in the other movie we discovered. Uh-huh. A low down dirty shape. gonna say two weeks ago i would never say it out of your mouth i don't believe in her having a name janus plunkett smife see will we're i know you're listening we're being nice i think we're being respectful mr. millsmith listen to we hate movies how cool that yeah it would be amazing hey sir did you ever get an enema i feel like the way that they cast this movie was there was just like literally

like uh some telephone poll in the hollywood was like do you want to be in a movie do you have six credits. Come on Monday. We're doing Enemy of the State. Everyone is in this movie. It's incredible. Everyone. You're so right. Like, Jake Busey's here. These people you don't think would be Barry Peppers. Jackson Black. Seth Green.

And a gun? Is it this movie? That was a shocker. Multiple people who have been on Seinfeldor in this movie, which is very weird. Jason Robart? Like, the opening. Jason Robarts, you will forget. Jason Robart's uncredited in this movie. There's a couple of people

along the way that wound up being uncredited. And I guess that's got to be some sort of a rule thing or something. Too many credits. There's too many people in this movie. There's only so many. Sorry, Jason Robarts. You have to be uncredited. That's the Tony Scott effect. He's cut and he's doing all these things. He knows how to make things exciting. And a lot of these actors are exciting.

He knows if you're running down rooftops, the next exciting thing is having a Chinese chef hitting a burning duck with a rag. Yes. But that really peppers up the scene. It's like, it's kinetic. Hey, Tony, no, no, I'd love to do it. I love your work. I'm really excited. You got to kill me immediately.

That's, the only way I, I'm not running. I'm not going to do what Gene does. Gene is fucking insane. I love this opening. He's like, no, I don't want a cup of coffee. I want to play with my dog. This dude just wants to live. This congressman just wants to have a fucking morning.

And dude, I don't want to work in any job, no matter the pay. If I can't even have a morning without John Voight breathing down my neck, come on. I don't want to work at any job. job no matter the pay, period. I mean, actually, the new administration, that is your job. John Voight's going to come to your job and bark at all. That's actually true. Yeah, John Voight, the new minister of Hollywood or whatever the fucking dip shit thing.

I know. We hate movies? I've got a boner. It's John Boyd. What do you think of this boner? All right, so John Void is the person. So he's the minister of Hollywood. He's the guy that I have to fucking complain to about Amazon.

Let's get into it. And their nonsense fucking files that they're file. Right. Yeah, you're putting five news on Paramount Plus, home of Tulsa King, man. I, too, have a co-bein-shoe of Hollywood. I am his lieutenant. Now, if you watch this on Amazon,

you shouldn't have because there is missing titles of the location. Yes, because I started last night, and I actually, it's not even just the titles of the location. The opening credits are not on the movie. Like, the, it's just a black screen with music for like 30 seconds. There is the title sequence that does happen, and it says enemy of the state there.

Yes, and then. So, wait, did you not? have a Tony Scott production or whatever. Jerry Bruckheimer. No, you had none of that? We had the Jerry Bruckheimer the whole logo with a tree on fire. But then it's a black screen. It almost looks like fucking the beginning of Star Trek the motion

picture with an overture. You know what I mean? They should have classed it up started enemy of the state with an overture. I'll tell you what. But then you cut to this like lake and then I just hear that noise, that teletype noise, which I know from the X-Files means I should be seeing something on the screen. Right. They're

type in the location. Let me know where it is. I just thought it was like fun satellite noises because I've only seen this movie in its entirety I believe just the once in theaters and then some TV broadcasts here and there because I wasn't really high on it when I saw it back in the day but I'm sitting there like

oh all these neat satellite stuff what a futuristic movie I was high on it but you started texting about this issue and I was drunk and I was like what? But you knew exactly the reason so you tell me the reason please. Yes I believe because

Amazon ingested like a textless version which is sort of a version that these TV companies get to like make promos so there's no like shit on the screen if they want to use a scene where there would be shit on the screen letters aren't going to clash with whatever yeah there's no like hard-coded subs

or whatever but yeah and this Amazon's notorious for this they do not have human beings doing quality control they have computers and computers don't know what enemy of the state was I just have my guys in there from those and they're going through and look

it or they have to beta tapes with the text list and what's the difference? Yeah, they rule beta tapes for betas, am I right? You know what? It's ironic because a company that started selling books is now so against text. It will not even pay to have it in that movie. That's an awesome blue sky rant you just do. That's why I'm not on there. I'm just looking at Nazis all day.

You're an ex-man. He's like, oh, that's why I'm not on blue sky. Hey, guys, here's another link from the fucking Nazi website. No good option. Yes, Steve is embedded with the Nazis right now. He's having a great time. But this is like the, this is fucking with the movie. I mean, it's useless.

It's overused. Like, it's really overused. It gets to the point like Robert Dean's bathroom, our, you know what I mean, whatever, which is silly. But it's, it's the movie. And I'm not getting the movie. I get the full experience. I got to know it's 0,900. Exactly.

I need to know it's 0,900. So when you texted this, I was like, oh, shit, he's. right and then I switched over to Apple like you did and it actually had everything there because at least Apple I guess gives a shit about the consumer experience. Used my Blu-ray. That's awesome. There you go.

I did look at because I was rewatched it today before I left and I just popped on things just to see this thing and it is weird because every time it happens you're looking for it again. You know it's not coming because they fucked it but you're like wait a minute where is it?

It's unfortunate that this is a Touchstone Pictures movie, because to your point, that is the highest level this movie will receive on home videos that nothing do, right? Which fucking sucks, man. Touchstone put out so many great movies. I know. And, well, because Disney doesn't care about fucking home media releases for the most part. It's stunning that some of those M. Night Shyamalan movies got 4K releases, like Unbreakable and shit. Isn't that? Trap got one. Are we, because we haven't gotten a rock 4K, have we? I don't think so. I think that might be a touchdown. Probably not. Yeah. So Jason Robards just wants, It's a nice lazy Sunday playing with this dog

And here comes John Boyd and it's kind of great Because it's Jason Robart's like, oh my hell This isn't the first time this dude has ruined time at the lake with the dog This is not my office Yes I mean this guy Have you ever had to talk to him behind He always keeps talking about how hot his daughter

It's just it's a disgusting thing And it's it's I told you to call the girl and make an appointment this is me in dog time god damn it i actually think that's the thing is anyone who wasn't in hackers had to be in this movie oh yeah yeah sure do you think matthew lillard really wanted to be an enemy of the state they were like sorry dude you got hacked you're not going to be higgs or or kruger or kilman this we'll get to it but these are the roles i want to be in a movie you're sitting down the entire time absolutely and you're just like fake typing on a keyboard oh i know you

want to be in this movie. Jack Black, baby. No, Seth Green for those yellow-tinged sunglasses. I had them. I know you did. I had those in, like, early high school. I had a yellow-tinted one and a blue-tinted one. And my teenage asshole self

wore them things all the time, thinking it was cool as shit, destroying the fucking rods and cones in my eyeballs. But this is an action movie with an idea because he's, John Boyd is trying to get Jason Robarts to sign some bill that's going to be Basically the Patriot Act.

Yes. Funny enough, John Voie, when his character's birthday comes up later, 9-11, 1940. There you go. 9-11, folks. Yes, we knew it. This movie was predicting a lot, and now... You think Tony Scott was in bed with those fellas? That's why the bridge happened?

Is that what you're saying? No, that's why... Which fellas? NSA? The dudes that fucking did 9-11. Oh, the dudes that did 9-11. Did it? George W. Bush?

Right, yeah. That's quite a lot I'm going to say. I think so. Well, no, apparently the trivia, if it's led to be believed, led to be believed, they said the NSA was not cooperatives. Yeah, they refused. So maybe not. Well, because this is a movie that makes them look like shit, which is awesome. They're the villain.

They're literally the villain. And they still are. No, they're actually, they're great. Yeah, I mean, like they look like clowns in a clown car and they're like, you're getting too close. Yeah. This is going to, this is going to hurt us. No one working in the NSA looks like Jack fucking black.

Stop it. That's true. We have no fat people. Folks at home may not know this, but the NSA gets to listen to this show before you. They're listening right now. Yeah, it's a live podcast for the NSA. I got to check my shoes.

Hello, Agent Bauer. The weird part is, so like he's trying to get him on this bill and it's like, you know, like Jason Robart's like, you know, but privacy and all this stuff. And then he's like, you know how many jobs? Because it's a Privacy Act bill. Right. But then he says some line where it's like, you know how many people in Syracuse would lose their jobs?

What do they do it? I mean, I guess it's his district, which is fine. But what jobs would be lost? Dinosaur Barbecue's closing. Okay, got it. And at the time, that's the only one, Steve. That's the only one. RIP to that sugary-ass barbecue sauce recipe.

No thanks. Sorry, I know a lot of people like it. I mean, I didn't even like the Texas barbecue. We had in Austin, so I don't know. We went to a bad place because there was not time for the good place. I'm just saying Texas is full of shit. Okay. Oh, the barber, come for the barbecue.

God damn, I could bite a barbecue in New York. You have barely tried Texas guns. They are, there's what they're known for, and they do it better than anyway, God damn. What's that? Guns.

Actual guns. Yeah, actual guns. Oh, good. Oh, I'm more of an anti-gun gun. I was going to say it. I think Skyler was a great character. So, Jason Robards refuses to, you know, he's like, fuck you, are you blackmailing me now?

and John Voitz's like, I'm giving you a warning, blah, blah, blah. Rob Bards tells him to fuck off, goes to walk back to the car, Barry Pepper out of nowhere with this fucking Dexter needle. Knocks this dude out, kills him dead, bothers to throw the pills all over the seat, even though we're going to crash this car into a lake and all those pills probably dissolved. I was feeling for the dog here was deep in at that.

I was not, yeah. There's a better movie here, dog witness. No. The senator has been killed. Nobody knows who did it. Dude, that is... Isn't that the plot of that movie Bingo? Oh, yes.

Doesn't that dog witness a crime? That was a very fun movie. Bingo, that's a stay tuned. But you were making me think of Good Boy, which is an upcoming movie about the dog in a haunted house, which I didn't think was very good. The dog was good, though. The dog was good, but I don't need a perspective of a dog.

It turns out it's boring. Sure. No, but the dog is just, you know, it's like air bud, but it's actually with the court system. You know what I mean? I mean, there's... Air judge. Yeah.

A more interesting way to start. The dog can't be the judge. Roof, roof. It's also banging a gallon somehow. You've been sentenced to go to the roof. But yeah, I did appreciate this movie, though, in, like, the next scene or something. Because I was, like, bumming about that dog so hard. Great dog acting.

He sits right at, like, the bank of the lake and just starts crying. You hear, like, some dispatcher or something, like, and the fire department's got the dog safe and sound. And I was like, well done. These are the true heroes of this movie. We skipped what would have been the best Homeward Bound movie. Oh my

master was killed. It was assassinated. And that is like our cold open here. We get the enemy of the state, the wishing titles. It's a very Tony Scott opening here. You know, I feel like this exact kind of opening is in maybe between like six or seven Tony Scott credit sequences, like opening credit sequences.

All like security. Pretty footed. Precisely. I'm pretty sure Dave. Cool music playing. Spy game is very much the same. Spy game.

I haven't gone back to it, but I remember liking spy game, I think more than other people. That's really. Maybe my least favorite of his. Still have not. Of all the Tony Scott, it might be my least favorite.

My preferred Domino. I might, I actually kind of do prefer Domino. Even Revenge, which I've never seen. Well, revenge, if you get the, I think there's like a good cut. like you can get like all the violence the Kevin Costner movie right yeah yeah that's a sleepy movie oh he's a serial killer no no he's like a assassin he goes down and like hangs out with Anthony

Quinn and like his it looks it looks exactly like uh Tom Berger and sniper that's why it got the covers are very similar Anthony Quinn's just like you want to fuck my wife I know it yes it is pretty funny that's what that's what the movie's about but okay so that one might be that but I I do prefer Domino uh we cut to the law firm of Silverberg and Blake attorneys at law This is where Will Smith works This I don't know why

I wrote this down So it must have been on the screen at some point I did at least get an 1130 a.m. right here Yeah okay there you go So one got through Yeah exactly one got through apparently But we hear what's going on here We got Johnny Cap

Uh oh a toilet flushed Someone lost the turtle again Dude Johnny Cap coming up in a lot of movies Likes to work But he's an Eddie and then he is with Lillow Brancato, right? This is the kid from a Bronx tale. The known murderer.

Yes. And the two of them are there because they're trying to argue this case where, like, they are labor representatives and Lillow Brancato got like roughed up by the mafia who's interfering with the labor negotiations, I think is the idea. And, of course, James LaGroes is the other lawyer. You know what we learned? How about this? Breakthrough.

Uh-huh. So he was on an episode of the second season of Severance. And they do Ben Stiller and Adam's got to a podcast Going back through the episodes as they air They had him on Sit down for this guys You pronounce his name

LaGro That's what he wants I mean it sounds better than LaGro It does yeah so he goes by James Legrow and also have to recommend that episode Him and Patty our cat dude Mwa There you go performing together

I now pronounce my name Sisk Jay is silent Well that sounds like Sist then There's nothing wrong with silent letters, ladies and gentlemen. Right. Mr. Jay in his name. That's right. Secret Jane. Mr. Jay? So Will Smith comes in or whatever, and it's like,

oh, you're doing this deposition, James O'Grath? Okay, and he's got some, like, lines and whatnot, and he's like, oh, I'll go talk to the mafia, basically. And I think... Oh, I'll talk to the mafia. Don't worry about it. He's like, oh, I'm going to go talk to him. We got this tape. Don't worry about it or whatever. I love me, balls.

The mafia is nice in real life. Don't let this stuff will you folks. Well, he knows he doesn't have it yet, but he knows that there's something coming because he goes right here and meets with Lisa Bonnet. Man, awesome seeing Lisa Bonnet in movies. It's great. And I mean, like everyone's wife would have a problem with you getting lunch with Lisa Bonnet.

Yep. Your wife would have a problem. If you're a lady, your husband would have a problem. If you're gay your husband would have a problem. Everyone's just like, you had lunch with Lisa Bonnet. What the fuck is that about? Absolutely, dude. I know what that's about. And what a lunch buffet it would be.

but so, yes, she is this sort of go-between for Will Smith and the... Rachel Banks, Rachel Banks, Rachel Banks, her name's Rachel Banks, her name's Rachel Banks. You had an affair with her. You had an affair with her. Who, Rachel Banks? Four years ago.

Yes, Rachel Banks. I had an affair with Rachel Banks half an hour ago. I wish. But she is the go-between, you know, for Will Smith and this unseen person named Brill. Jane Hackman. Yes.

and she you know we're doing the meeting in a park kind of a deal here and like here's a tape but he's Is this the scene that's exactly the conversation No that's later okay Which is fun

But they're at a restaurant You know he gives She gives up a tape He gives her 10 grand Yes Of which she only keeps 15% This is crazy I wish I became a mob lawyer

Or whatever this guy is Because my God The money's throwing around Dude apps I mean this firm must be flush Look how young he is Oh yeah man He must be 50%

years younger than me right now. But she's like, oh, you know, because he's kind of pressing her like, you know, who's Brill, one am I going to meet Brill, blah, blah, blah. And she's basically like, you're never going to meet him, dude. And if you have a problem with this, like maybe we shouldn't work together. What with the history we have? So she immediately lets the audience know they fuck. They used to fuck.

Oh, yeah, dude. You don't know how recently they fuck yet, but they fucked recently too. What is the name? I just need to know. Where's the name? Is it the Brill building in New York City? Is it Brillo cream? What is it?

Tell me. Is it Bernie Brilstein? It's Bernie Realstein. It's the new pornographer's record, Brillbrusers. Yeah, that's right. That's the guy. Yep. Okay.

What a fan. Trying to talk to a record. You get all this secret information from a record. Yeah, you play it backwards. It tells me to kill the president. But so he's got this table. We're going to go to Pintero, Mr. Pinteros, and try to, you know, suss out, you know, come to an agreement here. And here is Mr. Pintero in all his glory.

dude, my goodness gracious Tom size boy. Put a leash on this guy. Yeah. My God in heaven. I mean, like, look, the man does captivate you, doesn't he? I mean, like, he just takes over the movie You watch it, but you, like, it's amazing. And, you know, obviously he's deceased.

We're not going to go too hard on the guy, but like... Oh, I'll go hard. No, no. Good for him. He's dead. He just exquisitely plays a piece of shit like this. He's great. He's magnetic where he's a good performance on screen, even though he's, you know, He was known as hooker puncher in your life.

That was the actual name. Yeah, I think that's what the tabloids were. That's on the tombstone. Wow. I just saw. Portations are just, no. No.

Oh, okay. As we watched Bringing Out the Dead, he's excellent in that. Yes. And again, yes, he just lights up the movie because he's got this weird, cokey energy. It's this total, like, junkyard dog. Like, this guy's going to come across the table at Will Smith at any second. Like, honestly, it's, it is more.

or less a Mickey Mouse Mafia in this movie. Oh, for sure. Not like goofacularly so, but like it's not any sort of serious Lacosa Nostra kind of shit, but he's still terrifying as a character. Yes, at least they shoot people. I will say that much. Can we get back to shooting people in this country? Come on, the mafia.

They're not a big deal. They've got maybe two restaurants tops that they can walk into it. Two restaurants, at least three Sopranos actors just scattered around here. Like low-level guys. But I think one of the ones was Beansy, who gets beaten up by David Pervalance. and two. Oh, sure. I remember that guy's

there. And then just one or two other guys. There's the other guy. He's, oh, is it in this movie or did I see him in something else recently? The guy who was like head of like the FBI operation on them. Oh, okay. Yes, yeah. He's something. I think I just saw him in something recently. And maybe it's not this though. Yeah. Fuck. Oh, is he in that? No, is he in that piece of shit out all nights? I don't know. I never, I never saw the Sopranos. I don't point in me.

Oh, well, anyway. But, like, they got, I mean, all the big guys, Nicky Parmesan. Oh, yeah. And now, Will Smith wants to, like, get them to, like, don't rough people up, let them do an up and down vote on the contract. They want them to vote on a union contract without the intimidation. And the thing that he's using to blackmail Tom Seismore's character is Tom Seismore is out on parole. And it's a whole thing where he's not supposed to leave the city and travel and associate with other criminals. And they have what the tape that Lisa Bidney has given.

in Will Smith is a tape of Tom Seismore with a bunch of mafioso dudes like hanging out on vacation somewhere. He's breaking his parole, which would get him. Because he's hanging out with union representatives. He could get 15 to 20 years of people saw this apparently. There's a lady like offering

flights of cocaine like this is from Columbia actually. It's called boom boom juice. It was a tape of Tom Seismore's birthday party. Yeah, this is actual tape of him at home. And it's not even like a tape like, oh like this is you entering a car from like No, he's like, hey, how's you going out there and TV ladies?

Yes, he's mugging for the camera. It's so funny when he's like, yeah, that ain't me. Classic mafia move. Can we talk a little bit about where this, so it's an Italian restaurant, obviously, to the back of an Italian restaurant. Sure, yeah. But it's like it's this ante room space that is between the restaurant and the kitchen. Here's what it is.

Here's what it is. Before that restaurant was a mob hangout, that was just part of the kitchen. And then when seismicoring crew rolled in, The cooks are all like, you're putting a folding table there? And you're all going to sit there. So now, like, when you're running plates to fucking table nine, it's getting cold because it's got to go around top size where Andy's definitely picking Zidi off those plates. This has been in a lot of movies before.

I think Seamus, the Bert Reynolds movie, has a scene like this. Yeah, the mafia just hanging out in the back with their private table in the kitchen, more or less. Because if you're not helping to bankrupt your business, your own business, you're not being a real, that's not what a real gangster would do. A real gangster would fuck up all of his businesses just to let everybody know he was the biggest piece of shit out there. You get fat on your own supply. God damn right.

Excuse me, I thought that the garlic knots came with six, eight pieces. I only have four here. Yeah. Don't ask, okay? Four of pieces didn't pass poison control. Burp from the background.

These garlic knots are delicious. No, yeah, the baked ziti is supposed to be half portion. It doesn't say on the, yeah, like that must have been, like, you know, part of like the prep station area. And then they're like, all right, you're just going to sit here and watch TV and smoke all day, right in this kitchen. All right. It kind of rocks.

There's definitely a bite out of my chicken parmesan. It is a man-sized hole. You know how a pizza is supposed to be like a full circle? Yeah, this one's a pie shot. Yeah, this is a Pac-Man pizza. What are you going to do about it? It appears as if somebody has taken the pizza, folded it in half, and taken a bite out of the pizza. in that way. And I don't know

how you allow people in your restaurant to do that, but especially people in the kitchen for crying out loud. Oh, Madone, you got someone to vent horizon and pizzas back here. And I'm not for another, but it smells like pornography. I don't know how it does, but it does. Tom Sides

we're definitely coming in hot with the vegetable slur against Will Smith. Oh, boy. That's a tough one. Oh, boy. He says that it's kind of great that Will Smith gets to reclaim it lately. And it's kind of great. Like, I do love Will Smith here, he's terrified of Tom Sighsmore. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, he's not Mr. Cool, badass, you know, because I mean, again, he's acting in this movie. It's not, I'm Mike Lowry in a suit. It's like a different character. He's playing a guy. He's not playing a superhero with a badge. I think eventually says like, oh, the tape can disappear like the Zuprooter film, which

you know, was released in the 70s and actually wasn't disappeared, but, or the porno film they shot in Hitler's bunker. Which is a, is the McGuff. of another Gene Hackman movie Loose Cannon Is that right? That's what

Dan Aykrad are looking for in that business? Is that a known like Urban Legend that they filmed the porno movie? According to Loose Cannon. Yeah, suck on my schvance, yeah. Maybe, who knows? Oh, man. I hope please call that one in. I wanted

to talk about that movie. The bunker porno? Loose canon. I mean, we can talk about that. So Gene Hackman and Dan acroyd as a cartoon character who he actually literally becomes Bugs Bunny in a certain scene or something?

The porno I think is called two Nazis one bullet. Is that they filled the Hitler? Oh yeah, dude. I love when they finish. Yeah, what a bang that conclusion. So this is also we get a, it's important for later the end of

the movie, but it's just important to point out that we get a shot right here. The FBI is across the street. in the second floor of an apartment building monitoring the restaurant they see Will Smith coming out it's like get the license plate who's this guy oh he must be the mob lawyer and whatever

even the big fat Italian guys like hey look say I to the FBI giving the finger his big fucking Italian sausage fingers just up in the air it's so great that's a hot Italian right there but it's also this is a Christmas movie obviously

it absolutely is watching every Christmas at my house sure yeah so it's such a Christmas movie I might start, dude, I fucking forgot this takes place at Christmas. Do you think, like, whoever wrote this, Daniel something, or David Marconi or something, wrote this movie, he was like, well, Shane Black might direct it, so he likes things said it. You know what, I'm just going to put it in there.

Maybe Tim Burton's directed this movie. I don't know, it said at Christmas. People like Christmas. Why not put it on Christmas? What am I going to do, put a Halloween? Edward Lawyerhand. Yes, Steve, you were right. It's a dude named David Marconi.

he also wrote the screenplay for I believe actually Steve you mentioned this movie quite recently as a matter of fact he wrote the screenplay for the foreigner the Jackie Chan oh boy yeah he wrote that he's got a story credit on live free or die hard

this was also apparently rewritten by Aaron Sorkin or did Pat Aaron Sorkin and Tony Gilroy and somebody else did like rewerely okay that makes sense you could see the Gilroy of it yeah weird that all of those dudes are just completely uncredited punch-ups and Marconi gets the full

deal. So it's Christmas, he's buying his wife a present, he's buying her lingerie in the sex. It's not, this is not Victoria's Secret. People are just dressed like people and they're like, hey, there's lingerie over here. People are dressed like people? Yes. A little bit. I mean, it looks like they

expanded the sex shop from 7 and turned it into a place where you can also get boudoirs. It's very bare bones and like it looking like a store like the production team didn't really like gussy up this. And there's like supermodels there that are half dressed. Everyone is like

modeling the lingerie. This one lady is somebody. The woman that's helping him. Yeah, she's in some stuff. Is she in Love Actually? Yes, she's one of the babes that love actually. Oh, God. One of the victims of Love Actually. I read on the IMDB apparently, I don't know if it was just the exterior shop, but this was a

gay bookstore, a very famous one. in D.C. That has since closed, RAPD. It's very sad to see that. The president was ordered at Firebomb. Well, it was 2010. Oh, is that? Oh, okay.

Which Obama did. I'm going to drone strike the gay bookstore. Sorry about your bookstore. Thought it was a Lebanese wedding. Turn the page. Just trying to get Jason Link. Ivana Milcheverk. Yes, that's her name.

So there's this whole line of like, oh, what size is your wife? Well, she's kind of like that little piece. sass that walk by. Oh, but what about her bazongas? And he's like, definitely bigger bazongas than yours. I really feel like people, after this, we went to Victoria's thing like, like, where are they? And they're like, no, we just work here, sir.

Yeah, it doesn't work that way in the real store. I'm ready for a show. It's not an FHM magazine, sir. What's an FHM magazine? FHM was like a dude magazine. That's like a beatoff book. Yeah, it's not Maxim level. Sub maximum.

Sub maximum. You're going for sub-Maxim? weren't like head and head competitors, FHM and Max? I mean, I feel like the show had in that book? Far and beyond. I feel like Maxim got some actual... I was a serious catalog man and back in the day.

But meanwhile, back at the murder site, Jason Lee has a bird blind that he takes his camera out of. Some dude fucking sees it that the dude quirle from Harry Potter. Yes, dude, that is insane. The fucking dude that's got Voldemort the back of his turban in that first movie is this dude. How do you let this slip? If you're making this hit, how did you let this go? And also, Jason Lee giving like dirty looks to the crime scene collecting this stuff.

You know what? Maybe just circle back later, bud. Put on a gas mask. Put something on, man. Because I, I mean, Barry Pepper should be fucking fired. Yeah, this is obscene. It's real bad. And also, if you're going to murder the dude, head of NSA, Mr. John Voigt, you don't be there.

You know what I mean? Right. Why are you there? I guess to give him one more chance. Hubris, dude. It's all hubris. He didn't think the bird blind had a camera in it. You know, that's what these people do. They're arrogant. You think, oh my God, I hope we get some more of these guys. So this, he then gives a call.

This is the beginning of the enemy of the stating of it all because we get to see the NSA. Lauren Dean is like John Boyd's number two. He's in stuff. I could not place this kid. And it's crazy because, like, of all the like pseudo faceless nerds in this movie he's the biggest role and I had no idea who he was

like I don't know I have Seth Green running around in this part Oh you know he is he other brother McMullen He might be no no that's a different That's the guy who commercial guy He is the speaking of brothers He's um Jude Law's brother In Gattaca

Oh okay When they're running at the end they're swimming You know he's also a detective or whatever go back to that Gattaca. It's been a while. I remember liking it a lot. Gattaca's a good movie. I remember liking it a lot back in the day. It's a good ass movie. Not Judith Law, Ethan Hawke's brother. The brothers are changing

every day. This is a show where we misremember things. Sometimes it turns out. But this is where we get all these dudes there because we're introduced to Jack Black as Fiedler. Fiedler on the roof, I guess. And we also see Jake Busey and Scott Conn right here. Is these like military hood dudes

or whatever? Right. They got the they're the guile haircuts from Street Fighter and that's why everyone's like that's how you know they're in the ops or whatever. So we have the scene Jason Lee is at his, it's kind of funny because it sort of looks exactly like John Travolta's apartment from Blowout.

It's that same kind of thing. And he's watching the tape and this is the great, this is I feel like they had the thing written and they were like there's only one guy that can pull this line up. Jason Lee's got to come in and go, fuck a dog. I will say, I don't like his hair

in this movie. It's a bad hair con on him. You can't just shave that down. You're Jason Lee. No, he's got a good head of hair and it sucks that it's being suppressed in this film. Exactly. But he realized, I actually, he calls up Grant Hezlov, of course, because everybody's in this fucking movie. Absolutely, dude. Who gets

killed off screen? Grand scene, death scene deleted Hezloff. I want to see that. Because he's a, Grant Hezlov is this guy, Bloom who apparently has, like, left wing leaflets and publications that he's being put. He's putting together. He publishes like a leftist

like local newspaper. Probably a zine, actually. Yes, yeah, time of the zine. Yeah, well, I mean, this story can make that zine.

I'll tell you that. This might make that thing skyrocket. But I actually was surprised because I actually started a tally, but it's the only time it happens when someone looks at a computer and goes, come on, come on.

Yeah. It actually happens once, which is here. Really? It happened to me this morning. But yeah, when Jason Lee's, This is a little late.

He's trying to upload the file or whatever. Yeah, yeah. The Grant Hasloff, do you think John Voight sent a killer silverbacked gorilla to go fucking get it? Do you guys? He was watching Congo. His fucking death in that? Oh, it's great.

He's just got a good scream. Don't they throw his head at some point afterwards? I think he's the dude that gets the head throw. Because Laura Linney's like, what's all that racket back there? And then Grant Hasloff's head fucking rolls out maybe. It was expensive, but it was worth it, I think. You get a gorilla. I mean, yeah, I know a guerrillas are expensive.

expensive. Yeah, but there's one line later in the movie that's like Bloom has been taken care of, so you're presuming he dies. Yes. Because they're producing partners, I have to think, and I know that his other friend is Richard Kind, so I have to imagine that there was at least one night where the boys went out

for a drink. So that's George Clooney, Richard Clooney, Richard Klein, going out for drinks. I would just leave if I was Grant Haslob. Like, what the fuck am I going to? Come on. What's, you're all right. Well, just watch them, dude. I want. Just watch Richard Kind and George Clooney, what would they say?

You know, I read for Congo. I read the novelization was what it was. I didn't read the script. I read the novelization after, and I thought, I'm glad I didn't read for Congo. Hey, George, Grant's bringing down this whole pussy posse you've got going on here. No one wants to fuck Grant. At least I'm un-bad about you. He's bringing it down, George.

He's bringing down the whole patsy-possy. That's what I'm calling it, the patsy-possy. I forgot his wife's name Like the public forgot Monuments Men As they should Oof But while Lee calls Grant

Haslove here of course Jack Black's listening Yeah It's kind of awesome Jack Black Like because they're all like Still shitting their pants at this moment Trying to figure out like

What he's got and whatever But so the the The chase is on right here Because the dudes come to Jason Lee's apartment Like immediately This is Barry Pepper I think Scott Kahn's here also. Yes, Scott Kahn and Bucie.

They're kind of like the strike team. Yes. And they just, you know, it's a great, they're using this fucking, like, strung out lady to be like, Hey, Jason Lee, I just need some money for the phone, man. That is hilarious. Yeah, it's like the neighbor or something. Yes. He opens, like, another door to the apartment.

Two entrances to this apartment. You'll get that, dude. You'll see that in these old buildings like this. Old D.C. He's probably paid $400 a month or something. Back then. They're giving him $400 to live there. Technically, it's a railroad, but you know what?

You take it. If you're the only one living there, it's probably a shared hallway bathroom situation. That sucks. Throw me in the Potomac, dude. No thanks. But this is our first Tony Scott chasing, and it's pretty fucking great. It is nice. We get the rooftop chasing.

We get bicycle chasing. The movie is, it feels like one big chase. I mean, that's what it feels like. I love that about it. It's so kinetic. And, like, this is where we get the, you know, the Chinese chef. hitting the burning duck or whatever it is with a rag

and it's just one of those details that it's just like he can just run through a kitchen and that's exciting enough but what if there's a kitchen malfunction at the same time he's a documentarian with a fucking three foot head start on the NSA and he is giving them problems. You think fucking Errol Morris can do this?

I don't. No, no, no, no. Errols can tackled and murdered in three seconds. Immediately. That dude better pray he knows. ever comes into secret government tapes, dude he will be assassinated. Michael Moore would just say, mother, and just

before you chase me, let me get into my interview Mantic. Here we go. Well, maybe he did. Let me get in here. Maybe he found some tapes, and that's why he's like, okay, okay, no, no, let me do a puff piece on Steve Bannon and then that's that. Dude, that would be awesome, though. Like, the government shows up at Arrow Morris's door. They

fucking kick it in and he goes, oh, let me show you my other in Teratron. And it turns out it's Arrow Morris and a huge Gundam suit? Absolutely. Like his little documentary screen filming thing transforms into a Gundam suit. He's fighting people.

Get ready to feel my fury. It just takes out a pen and starts writing stuff. He's hocking Chipotle burrito balls at him. This decal on my Gundam is for the thin blue line. The movie I may not the police or whatever it's become. I'm not in support of the police. I helped free someone. And in the truest of wrong man, wrong place, wrong time situation,

Jason Lee runs through the back door of this lingerie shop while Will Smith is trying to get the Christmas presents for his wife oh how you doing? Oh, we were at Georgetown together and we see Jason Lee drops the device at Will Smith's bag. And here's the big problem

stop giving people your business card. No one wants your fucking business car. But these fucking lawyers and whatnot, man, they can't help themselves. Yeah, well now he's going to be an enemy of the state. This is 1999 or this pre-Facebook.

This is how you keep in touch with a friend. Here's my business card. But yes, you're right. I guess that was the first friendster. Business cards were the first social network. And he just, I love him eating shit in this movie.

It's brutal. It's a good one. I forgot how good this is. It does a stunt, like he does like an X game stunt into a fire truck. Because he's again, like he gives Barry Pepper this slip. He gives Scott Con the slip. He is fired.

Again, like they fucked with the wrong document. He's on this bike. It looks great. It's so good. And he does just the launching of the bike. I wish people could have seen this in the theater. I remember there being gasps at this moment. He's like launching right in front of this truck.

Boom. And you see the full thing. And it's like wow. And it's because I mean like you, this is a guy that I've seen in movies. He's going to be in the movie, right? He's a guy who doesn't play characters that meet ends like this. You know what I mean? So it's extra sort of shocking.

It's also, I got to say, the stunt team, the special effects people, Bravo, you fucking attached a dummy to a BMX bicycle and threw it in front of a fire truck. And it all looks awesome. It looks better than anything you could render on a computer or AI could fucking shit up for you. Take that wish upon. I want to see fucking Joey kick and fly for real. Seriously. Get a little dummy of that little girl and throw it in front of a car.

Exactly. She's so tiny, dude. That would have been a really cheap dummy to make. Just do some smart. Is it so hard? Yes. Is it so hard? It can't be.

It's because, like, you know, we're doing everything, like, pre-vis, so you don't think about post-editing. You know what I mean? It's like, so many of these things can be done with good editing and that your shitty computer program. And it's also the sound design, but you fucking, you feel this guy getting hit by a fucking truck. Like, my shoulder hurts a lot today. And I think it's because I felt that fucking fire truck yesterday afternoon. I would never let them chase me. Those pigs would die where they're.

They stood. Oh, dude, you've come to the wrong house. And he's just fucking cut people in half. My, my, my. Look who's walked in. The spiders caught himself a couple of flies. So he's dead. Barry Pepper and Cruz sort of immediately run up to the bus.

It's kind of this funny thing where like this dude has just been totally smushed. And you just see a bunch of guys rifing through his pocket. And Will Smith kind of sees it, which is unfortunate. I think he just took his wallet. he love that he but look you just bump into an old friend you're like oh that's savitz I remember that night you know when we got drunk in the oh fuck he's dead yeah oh there he is he's a puddle of bud you didn't even have time to yell hey savids remember the old story can never be told that must be the nightmare of being like a doctor in the town you grew

up in oh yeah dude and you just must be doing that shit all the time All you're doing is buried, your buddy. So the law students were hanging out with the duck watching students or whatever. Yeah, good point. All right. Yeah, well, I guess at some point, yeah, he was, maybe there's some sort of like photography or videography major in Georgetown or something like. An elective. Or just more like nature related sciences or something like that.

You're going to bump into a pal. Hey, that guy's got good beer. I'm going to hang out with that dude. That doesn't matter. But do you think it was a thing maybe where Will Smith in another situation would kind of be more like, ah, few, I didn't want to get a beer with that guy. Oh, right, yeah. Oh, so I don't have to hang out with him? Well, that's fine.

We got, this is true. This happened. 1 a.m. we go back to his apartment. Guess what he, I know we've been drinking. We've been having a fun time. Well, it puts on Harlan County, USA.

Harlem County, USA, 1 a.m. in the morning. And, uh, I, you know, I'm partying. I'm having, I'm a couple. That sounds like a couple red stripes in. Sounds like a you move. Yeah. Dude, yeah, fucking three cocktails in, a couple of jays. Yeah, let's put on this fucking.

horribly sad coal mining documentary. Yeah, let's do it, baby. So, yeah, as Will Smith goes home, we see he's got a cute little son here with a neighborhood friend. They're playing some PS1 game that I didn't recognize. Right. It's a clip of a jet ski thing. It looks like garbage.

It does look like terrible PlayStation graphics, absolutely. Could you not bully Eric? He's trying to play his game. And the great Regina King here? As Carla, yes. Yeah, man, 1998, Regina King. okay this also works and she's also a lawyer here and she's

she's got the TV on I think here she's screaming about this privacy act going to look how rich they are and you know it's like I was like hello Mr. Dean or whatever it's oh hey Maria of course we have a permanent

help situation sure yeah yeah yeah she doesn't live there though could imagine having money I couldn't I really could not Homeowner, Eric Siska, can't imagine having money. Oh, I'm up to my fucking neck and shit, I'll tell you that much. He went to Georgetown for law, Eric.

Yes. You went to SUNY Purchase for nothing. It's just like the rest of them are. And here I am, instead of hanging out with Tom Seismore, which I would like to. Like right now? Right now. Put me in the same grave. A popper's grave.

Dude, it's crazy, though, because, boy, this is a. This is a fucking education for this Will Smith character, by the way, because Regina King saying all the right things about privacy and the government's going to take this too far. And he's all like, oh, baby, you've got to turn off that MSNBC paranoia bullshit. He's got a movie to learn here, Andrew. He's here to get this lesson right here. She is yelling, of course, at the bad guy from Lethal Weapon 3.

Stuart Wilson, who is the representative from New Hampshire. But also the bad guy from Teenage Mutin' Ninja Turtles 3. But she has no power. Oh, fuck. No power. Yeah, the feather hat, of course. Yeah, oh, so he's, he's, what is the put-on voice, I guess, that movie? Oh, I don't, I think he's, I don't answer to question.

He's British. Hi, Jack. That's about as much as you get with a group of career. He's also in The Rock. Frank, this is, this is a show and show. Oh, yes, okay. Sure, sure. But in reference to the MSNBC line, I mean, remember, Bill Smith is

playing a father in this so he has to watch he's got to be a fox news guy well that's right you are a dad you are a fox news i found the line he says no more ns nbc terrorist talk uh that's right okay because beforehand he was playing normal dads yes and it gave way to weird there's no normal dads left there isn't hey will smith's character wait fucking three years dude then it's gonna be terrorist talk on every goddamn news network and it's true it's a movie so who what what Stuart Wilson, by the way, he's British. What is he on? Oh, you looked that up. Yeah, he did. He is on Larry King, of course, because,

hello, tonight I have the Robocop here. What movie am I in? What law are we talking to the anti-transformable? Yes, this is the bill that Congress is going to pass to make sure those teenage mutant ninja turtles come out of the shadows once and for all. And the Ghostbusters dance the night away. By the way, Fairfax Boulevard, Los Angeles bagels, very good. Deputy Chairman Walmac, what exactly do you think?

Yes, this is, Senator, you are against finding out who Buccaroo Banzai really is. Is that correct? Expand on that. The dude just was in your movie and I fucking loved it. He's the last word in this movie. I miss that shit. I miss having Larry King. King and Jay Leno in every movie.

Show me these guys. Like, oh, and Jay Leno monologue joke about, well, I guess it wouldn't joke about this congressman being gay. Did you hear about this? Do you hear about this? It's a very serious situation. We're moving on. I don't know. He made jokes about the guy having a heart attack

in Birdcage. Okay. Yeah, that's... Jay was when the senator had a heart attack. Oh, well. He made a light of a hostage situation in Mad City. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man's got a dark heart. I think he's fine. Made light of the O.J. Simpson trial every night of the week for about a year and a half.

The dancing edos are ingrained in my brain. Oh, dude, yeah. The dancing edos should get like a monument put up somewhere. They're right outside Jay's house. They deserve a walk of fame star before Galgado. Absolutely. Is he John Carpenter's going to get one now? After Galgado?

After Galgado! Crazy. But so, yeah, we're talking about the themes of the movie. Like, basically, I think Regina King goes to drive the kid to a sleepover. Meanwhile, we've got all this, you know, tech talk from people that they're watching. Hicks, Kruger, Jones, Potter. A lot of last names that you don't need to remember because you can just go, there's Seth Green, there's Jack Black.

There's Jamie Kennedy now. Pratt, Barron. There's Jenna Elfman's husband who is credited in this movie, and Jason Robards isn't. Bodie Elfman. Bodie. What do I know Bodie Elfman from? He's just kind of a nothing.

I just for some reason know that he's genuine. Thank you for sure. Husband and not brother? No, yeah. Husband. Maybe husband and brother. I don't know how it is. That's how it is.

Is he one of the ones that steals the blender? Yes, he is. Old family name was that guy. It's a skinny, skinny guy. Sure, sure. The old family name was Selfman because they used to marry each other because they're inbreds. Allegedly. Oh, so there's a silent S on that name.

Exactly. Yeah, because names are stupid and meaning. So you've read up on this, huh? I've been reading a lot lately. Oh, wow. Some of this, like, John Voight tech talk here is like, I want this operation done now. And he's got this line. He's like, boy, I hate doing this all over Christmas.

They have to remind you, it is still somewhat Christmas. I'm just trying to live a life. And, of course, I have to kill several people to keep my job. Because they're not sure if he has it or not. But Void's point is, like, we can't have this out in the open. So we have to just get into this guy's life. They do a big, like, info. thing here. Jack Black, like, researches everything.

This is where they find out that, like, he and Lisa Benet used to, uh, fuck around in, in college. Right. There was the affair. And there's a cover thing, like, oh, FBI signed off. This is a standard training up. Yes. So we already have like, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

we're, we're, uh, kind of like we got going right now. We got, um, are you, you, you're in that group chat? We got a bullshit. Did you guys see this bullshit technology thing that we're doing right So they're trying to figure out if Jason Lee actually dropped this device into the shopping bag. And so Jack Black is, he is the conductor of this bullshit technical orchestra where he's like, okay, I need you to, uh, all right, why do we try to bring that camera around about 75 degrees and just this fake. So you're telling me the security camera for the store had a 360. No, he says we could hypothesize what it would look like.

And it would look, and it's instantly what it looks like. It's just exactly that. It's just exactly that. It's video technology and figure it out. It is so stupid. Enhance, enhance, enhance. There's a lot of that. There's later on when like all the tracers are, like,

whoever made the tracing technology interface, why would you have a list that looks like a clickable screen list? And when they start to fail, they blink red and like make a fucking submarine noise. Here's exactly why, dude. Because look at all these fucking dudes that you have. running this shit. They're all just nerds that clearly grew up on video games

and shit. So you make it more video gamified just like in the real world and they're excited to do this shit. I mean yes that's actually one thing that they absolutely got right was like these are going to be the fucking NSA engines the future's young young nerds. Yep. Got that all exactly

right. They're all going to be into raves. You see these fucking outfits they got on? I wish Chris because at least we get a few drug overdoses out of these guys. Oh, you just wait. They do Barry Pepper and I think Scott Khan pretend to be cops and go up to Will Smith and this is when he and he's a lawyer but it's all like it's kind of interesting race never comes up in this movie ever because I mean the mafia yeah well yes that comes up that comes up but it's never in like the police his interactions with the police or anything like that yeah which is kind

of interesting you know what I mean like it's right they should show up and shot him that's a bit more Well, it's, well, it's one of those things, yeah, where it's like, it wasn't specifically written that, like, what's the name, Howard Dean? Robert. Robert, Howard Dean. I heard Tom Cruise was considered. Right, exactly. It was just, like, written.

It wasn't specifically written as a black man. And so there were no rewrites that really, you know, tailored to that you just have the mafia use a fucking really racist slur there for a second. Why would we call Tom Cruise that? Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, he likes that. He likes it. Okay. But so, but again, he's a lawyer, so he's very like,

you know, let me see you, asking the right questions. You know, can I see your badges? Absolutely. They're asking about, you know,

if this dude like gave it, you know, did Jasonly give you anything, blah, blah, why were you in that store? I'm buying lunches for my wife. Perhaps something slipped amongst the purchases? I love that line,

slipped amongst the purchases. May we take a look? Not without a warrant. Well, goddamn right. This great fucking, oh, yeah, you're buying stuff for your wife. We thought it might have been for

Rachel Banks. And it's just this great good night gentlemen. Oh, dude, this Will Smith, good night gentlemen. But it's also like, now you know they're on to you and be, Rachel Banks. Your name is Rachel Banks. Remember that. Smith can't find anything in the bag here. He's looking around. Regina King comes home and they have had this

it's a sex date. Oh, sure. Because she drives the kid to go to the sleepover. And we do have that funny. He's like, oh, yeah, I'll be back. when you come back, baby I'll be here and she's like, oh yeah, sleeping like last time or whatever. I guess Will Smith's pulling Homer Simpson a lot of the time with that. If he's drinking

red wine, I mean, yeah, you're going to be fucking out, man. He did spill it all over those legal documents. Oh, right, there's a wine spill right when the dog is a little Pomeranian guy. Porsche. Porsche. Porsche the dog.

Yeah, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to buy a Porsche. I want one. A Lamborghini and a Porsche. That just screams new money to me There's a great void Voight line after the The conversation at the house doesn't go well or whatever

He's this is like This movie's version of like I want him dead I want his family dead I want his husband to the crowd He goes to this whole list of shit that he wants And he's like I want his porno rentals Yeah

Well he's like oh he's a labor lawyer That smells like mafia to me What's this what's with this Rachel Banks situation We should hit on that Blah blah blah No Jerry no Jerry you listen to me. Tommy Lee Jones got to say that stupid speech

in the fucking fugitives and everybody loves him! Everybody loves him! I'll get my porno list and I will be loved finally. So the next step here is there, the Will Smith and Regina King are out with the kid driving somewhere. This is, we're kind

of doing the game right here because we go to this house and trash it. Yes. You know, so they're doing the bugging and the break-in stuff. is the cover. It's kind of a great thing. Is it Jamie Kennedy that points out? He's like, or is it Seth Green?

One of them is like, you got to spray paint lower to the floor so it looks like kids did it or whatever, which is very cool. But yeah, so they're trashing the place while also bugging at the same time. We see them like switch out his clothes, switch out a watch, all these things that have bugs in them instead. And very specifically, they dump all the suits of the, like, except for one, you know what you, that's the one you got to wear because it's got all the tracers in it and everything. They'll repurpose one at Rachel Banks's.

to try to frame him for what will become Rachel Banks' murder. Yep, exactly. And then very pointedly, Jake Busey, oh, hey, nice blender. Yeah, which is great. So then we, this great shot of Will Smith rowing on the Potomac with like some other

dude. Oh, it's James LaGroreel right here, and he's telling him like about the break-in and everything that's going on. Oh, they spray paint the damn dog, by the way. It's very important. This poor little guy. Poor little portion. You just spray-pinned green. You've got to get that thing shaved to now. I mean, that dog should be agreed the rest of the movie. I don't know. I don't know about you.

Who's dying this dog? Who's got the time? Yeah. Oh, but this is, I was wrong about the watch change out at the end, at the end of the last thing, because it happens here because Barry Pepper and one of the other guys breaks into the boat house locker room right here, switching out the watches and everything like that. So he

think, right now, Will Smith thinks it's the mafia. He's like, of course, they're fucking with me because Petera, by the way, gives him one week to reveal his source or else he's going to kill him. Yes, that was the whole argument at the restaurant was like tell me who got you the tape and it's like I don't reveal sources yada yada yada yada

and yes he will be killed by the mafia in one week on top of all the other stuff that's going on now he's also got he's got a clock on him from the mafia he's pretty generous because like Tom Seism was like all right he's like nose to nose to him and he's just like who did it who did it he's like I'm not going to tell him like okay

he got one week I'm all right thank God so it goes public right they release the whole thing They create this big scandal. Rachel winds up losing her job. As does Will Smith with an uncredited Philip Baker Hall as his boss.

You couldn't keep that motherfucker out of this movie. Somebody making a movie in there? Hey! It's amazing. He was kicking down the door. And I think Tony's got it to be like, he can play this fucking head of the law firm, I guess. Yeah, it was a pretty good scene, right? Like, he's going back and forth like, oh, like they're questioning him about his life and he's like, well, hey,

I forget the other guy's name. Do you... Brian, is like you... Brian. Yeah, do you jack off in the shower? do you have so much sexual thoughts? Well, you know, because it's none of my fucking business, just like this to me. It's a great. Yeah. The way that all plays out is really great. It's some really fantastic Will Smith

yelling at somebody. Oh, am I fired? I think you just fired yourself. And that's a great Philip Baker Hall Line. That's why you get the best. It's so good. So that's a confirmation, yeah? I just need to hear it because, you know, I'm going to be making some phone calls. Is there going to be a package from HR

that I could have just clicked a minute? Seriously. Is it to the end of the month? Do we have to go on COBRA? But yeah, it is brought out here that Will Smith had an affair with Rachel Banks four years ago and they... That was four years ago

and I've just been paying her giant lump sums of money ever since because you leave it alone. Listen, we get lunch once a month. Yes, of course I can hire literally anybody else. But I want to hire her. And I pick up lunch and it's $5,000 every time. Yeah, his wife. Regina King here

She's got her friend there Love this friend She's just a friend Right? She kind of just isn't ever Really introduced She's just there to be like Yeah piece of shit

Will Smith You know who she is She's like exactly the Again it's the Bruchheimer style That woman that's with Claire Forlani in the Rock For no reason

Are they're like Are they girlfriends or what's going on? Oh right Yeah This blonde friend There's just people There's people Like oh this is a character

that might know other people, I think, is the idea. This person might have a friend. Yeah, it might happen. But so, yeah, Regina King is not having it. She's like, get the fuck out of here. This is where it's revealed. Yeah, they went to counseling. They did the whole thing.

And she says, you know, how in God's name can I trust you? Pretty young to be having an affair to be on it. Pretty young. And also, it's weird, like the, well, because like even in the one car seen they're driving, and she's like, so who's your investigator? you use? Did you use the guy Rachel knows? And he's like, we're over this. I'm not talking about this anymore. And it's like, dude, you're just digging your grave. Yeah. But yeah, so his whole life is collapsing before his eyes. And this is, it made my fucking blood boil. Because it's,

it's supposed to, I guess. But like, it cuts out to the van. And it's Kennedy and Green monitoring the argument. And they're like snickering while using the blender. And it doesn't happen. And it's kind of the one thing that's slightly unsatisfying about the end of this movie for me is there isn't a fucking missile that's launched into one of those vans and kills all of those nerds in one fell spoof. Like that's what I want.

I want all these guys to be wiped out in a huge explosion. To be fair, a lot of the do die at the end of the film. But it's not edited properly and you don't see shit like shit and I'm sorry Jack Black should be fucking dead at the huge. Andrew didn't get to see individual each body being taken apart by

just fucking turn to hamburger, boom, the other one, turn to hamburger, dude. These guys are so obnoxious in this movie. I mean, it's because they're great at what they're doing. This is not a problem with it, but like, man, my blood was boiling. Yeah, this is all Tony Scott

from the three, uh, three point line. Dude, just fucking buckets, man. He tries to use his credit cards to get to a hotel. He can't. They're canceled. They're really fucking with everything with him. Some guy steals his briefcase right here. They're writing about him in the paper for some reason, and I'm

like a lawyer having an affair with an investigator. Yeah, that's kind of like, news at 11? I don't know. I think you have to sort of set up that like that mafia case is way bigger and there's a profile to it already. I need to see like John Hurd like stubble

on smoking cigarettes at the OTB. Like, oh God, I got a deadline. Oh no. Yes. Oh, God. Okay. Money? To do corrupt? Okay. You could have established the mafia thing as being a bigger thing, like on TV, and the case with

da-da-da, and his slimy lawyer. Yeah, exactly. So, basically, Will Smith calls Rachel Banks and says, yeah, we've got to meet. We've got to talk about this. They get, you know, they hear where they're going to meet up, and this is very cool. This, Seth Green sort of orchestrates the opening scene of the conversation. Right. It's where this happened. It's kind of beat for beat. And this is why people compare it. Obviously, there's the photo later of

Royal, which is identical. Well, the thing is it's one thing to compare them. It's very clearly an homage. I mean, at the end of the, literally the end of this scene is Rachel saying this conversation and she looks at the camera. It's over. Francis Ford, you're going to check. A couple more vineyards for this guy.

Even Hackman's workstation looks at the conversation later. All of that is true. But there are fan theories that he is actually aged up the same character. And that's just not the case. It's not. Because there's a scene where he says that's not true. Yeah, I mean, all you have to do is listen

to the movie you're watching instead of making up fake movies in your head because Hackman we can just talk about it now, I guess, but he says, you know, he was at the time of the Iranian Revolution, which is the very end of the 70s, he was over in Iran doing intelligence stuff.

As an NSA age. Yes, and that then means that there's no way Harry from 1974 as the conversation just gets into that shit. He's already out the other Maybe he got better and he re-signed up. Don't you try to give them to stop it.

No, he faked his death and then signed back up with a different name. You hate these people too, Eric, stop it. I love these people. Sure, you do. Nonsense. It's totally fine if a thing just like references a thing it appreciates and clearly

Tony Scott digs on the conversation. It's okay to even have the thought that that is true. that is it but guess where that has to stay in the toilet where it where that thought originated when you were on the toilet taking a shit and you're like man what if it was actually a sequel in some way that is where the thought should begin and end I'm just in the toilet that fucking hammer comes down and flushes those turds dude that thought goes away it's oh it does not go to the internet like your dad saying get your head out of the gutter and it's like

okay fine I'll stop thinking that Harry is brille that's right good no son of mine's gonna think enemy of the state's a sequel to the conversation god damn it and you're gonna stop that film critic Hulk fucking handle on Twitter right now

and I don't want to hear a word about Jar Jar Binks being a fucking Sith one more word you're out of that fucking house so Smith goes to the mafia lawyer for help here and then this is where he sort of turns the tables on that

slur because this dude's calling him a sheister and Will Smith's like hey, that slur is reserved for Jewish lawyers. This guy is also a soprano's guy. He's like later period. He's actually also in bringing at the dead as the captain with the last I should barks, which is an amazing character.

Oh shit. Oh, it's that guy? Oh, wow. And he's on sopranos later in the show? Yeah, he's like one of the last, just a captain, a low level guy. Gotcha. But this surveillance scene fucking rules. I love this. It's really great. And it's because again, we're just, we're referencing the conversation. It's very much up. your mama's conversation, but it's

still kind of cool. It's rad. You got like, is it Scott Kahn's pretending to be a homeless guy and he's got the mic? And so you keep cutting back to Seth Green who's orchestrated. He's basically doing the Gene Hackman character from the conversation here. He's like, all right, Mike too, you got to turn this way. Oh, you know,

this mic's, you're stuck in a bunch of trees right here. You're line of sights off, like all that cool shit going on. While Will Smith and Rachel Banks are walking around like, how this conversation. Actually, if you, if you pause, I think it's when you see Scott Kahn in the homeless thing. If you pause, you can see the ghost of John Cazale frowning.

He's like, oh, wish I got a bit in this. This looks good. But he's right here, Will Smith is like, tell me about Brill, who's Brill? And she, you know, refuses to do it or whatever. And that's the, this conversation is over. They go sit down because it's not quite over yet because she's like, by the way, I'm in love with a married man and all this shit. And I'm just like, clock stick and Lisa Benang. You are not long for this movie with all this information. But it's funny because he thinks it's her, him.

And she's like, no, it's somebody else. It's like, why would you think it's you? You know, like that kind of thing. But I think that's bullshit. Oh, really? I've already hit it. I mean, why would I be hung up on? I mean, I've ever been there.

I guess it doesn't matter, but I read it as honest. Like, that she's just didn't. She's got some other, she's a messy person is what I'm guessing. Well, I didn't read it that way, but she's dead in seconds anyway, so it really doesn't matter. But so Smith, she tells him, like, okay, here's the deal. I chalk a line on my mailbox. When he's ready to meet, he chalks the other side, which means the day that his chalk line happens, every time is the same meetup, three o'clock, this ferry, this seat on the ferry. He leaves a thing, I take it, you know.

And this is real spy stuff. Like, they do, supposedly used to do this on mailboxes. It's sort of like, you know how hobos have their codes of like, yeah, a farmer's daughter hot. Exactly. Good me, good fiddles in here. Oh, and the pies are really nice. Comfortable pile of hay to sleep hard.

Exactly. And this is like the spy version of that. I always think of one of the coolest ones is when Mulder always wants to meet with Deep Threat on the X files. He tapes an X in his window. And then when Deep Threat sees it, like they go and they have a meeting, it's fucking sweet. So Will Smith gets that information. He goes, okay, I'm going to do that because this will.

get drill out of hiding and I can you know get to the bottom of all this he gets confronted by Gabriel Byrne of all people because again just we're doing it yep fucking burning money imagine being able to just fucking burn a Gabriel Byrne just having him here just to have a little Gabriel burn

living up to his name Gabriel burn it's kind of interesting as he does as in hereditary he Gabriel Burns it's kind of it's kind of a great little moment here because like he comes in he's like I'm here to help you and he's like doing an American accent It's shaky.

It's always shaky with Gabriel Byrne in American accents. But it's fine. It's better than a lot of people. But he's like, are you brille? Yeah, Brill. It's a really cool thing.

Well, what's the line he's like, the real Brilliard died when he was two years old of the measles. Which is a good line. It's like the whole like it's available kind of thing with the name. Later on. Smallpox is one of this. Hackman's just like,

did he say it was real or did you say it? And he just picked up on it. It's like, oh, fuck, I did say it. Yep. It's great. Was it Gabriel Byrne?

Oh, fuck. I fuck, they got burned now. But it's also great because, like, Will Smith's so bad at any type of spycraft. Like, they, they, he, well, Gabriel Byrne first takes out one of the trackers to show like, oh, look, I'm actually smart and know what I'm doing. Yeah. But he leaves the rest in because he's crooked. And then they're going to the taxi. And he's like, sit in the back like a customer.

What are you fucking idiot? We're pretending to a taxi. I've never seen the front seat of a taxi. This is the cover, you idiot. Gabriel Byrne famously thought that he was Kaiser Sozay and assaulted Brian Singer when he found that he wasn't.

I wonder if he assaulted it? Maybe because he saw something on set. Did he assault him singer style? No, physically. Oh, good, yeah. But I'm now wondering if he thought he was the real Brill as well. He's like, oh, God damn it.

It's because I saw what you did to those boys, you piece of shite. I'm not even Miller and Miller's crossing. Come on. Gabriel, I mean, did you read more than the two pages that we sent you like was I a bet was I stupid fucking bet but so right as they start to drive off here there's a crazy

pickup truck that's chasing then we can do a little bit of a high speed chase here and this is it's a fucking awesome reveal like there's a fender bender that happens here and the truck sort of pulls around and drive away and you see there's jean hackman driving this car and dude I checked it no

lines yet but 54 minutes till he's even seen in this movie Pretty great. He's got this fuzzy haircut, which is pretty adorable. And glass is way too small for his head. These things are fucking good. If he squids, they're going to snap. He looks really. He looks like it. It's a cool. It's a cool. It's cool, but it's also elderly nerdy Charlie Brown is what he looks like. Yeah. I mean, it's just during the conversation. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, with Charlie Brown having that kind of childhood, I mean, with Lucy and everything. I don't know. He could turn into a McVeat. type, and that's what this looks like. Charlie Brown as McVeigh. Oh, geez, what Charlie Brown did that, to that fucking state house or whatever the fuck that was. Now I'm imagining Gene Hackman just taking Linus's blanket. Where is it?

Where is the gun? You have something they want, Linus. Let her take the football. It's Bond. No, that bug in the doghouse is the one they wanted you to find. He's not really the Red Barron, by the way. Take a goddamn shower. It's just, it's all over you.

It's everywhere. standing out here like an idiot waiting for the great pumpkin that's ever going to come. Did he say he was pig pen or did you say that? He picked up on him. Just because someone has a wavy lines that's made the pig pen. He could just smell like shit, you know. But yeah, so the government's trying to track him.

Do this stock footage of the satellite in space taken right from MTV News? Absolutely. I'm like the current loader to show up. This is crazy, though. because you see this it's the same stock shot of this

satellite going across the earth right they use it twice in this movie after this movie was over Amazon was like oh you're watching Gene Hackman movies you might also like behind enemy lines so the trailer just started playing that same fucking satellite shot just goes across the screen

I forgot about that movie all together that's an episode right it's probably an episode oh wow oh wow I got shot down behind enemy lines I photographed some illegal people doing a mass grave and they shot me down. That's what that movie's about. Really? But nowadays, that's like a celebrated thing.

I'm a war hero. Is there a part in that movie when he's cheerily talking to Gene Hackman, you know, I always wanted to be a Tannenbaum? Shut up, not now. I know Eli. Why are you wearing pajamas? What do you live here now? You just live behind enemy lines.

That's what you're doing. that reminded me though because he says it multiple times and ten in bums and he says he hear a few times one of the things I will miss the most about Gene Hackman is just the way his voice sounded

when he says the word telephone I can't explain it I cannot fucking explain it to you but something about the way my ear hears Gene Hackman say telephone yeah it just it makes me feel good all over man I can't explain it it

it's really cool it's a great loss I mean yeah oh yeah love that good So he shows, he runs into, he tracks Will Smith down at the, is it a hotel that he's at or something? Because he's trying to call home or whatever. And he shows up and this is the- Oh, by the way, Gabriel Vernon pulls a gun on him, revealing that he is not a good guy. Oh, yes, totally, yeah, yeah.

And Will Smith narrowly escaped. Almost shoots him like right in the fucking head in this car. But yeah, this is the, get on the fucking elevator. That's his first line of the movie is get on the fucking elevator. And he's got a good, you know, actually what I realized, I don't think he does it ever. in this movie because it's not the character. He doesn't do the trademark Hackman, the little

chuckle. Yes, totally. The sort of sinister, it could be sinister, it could be sarcastic. Playful, it's just not in this movie, which is unfortunate. Yeah, no, well, this guy, Brill doesn't have much to laugh about it. Not so bad. Pretty shitty existence, I have to say. But yeah, he's got the gun. You don't get this in their smile.

You know why? Because you tried to get my feet. You asked for my feet for the ending, and I said no politely, but inside I said fuck these people for asking for my beautiful feet i'm not being on i'm not going to end up on wiki feet oh god trust me it'll be invented in a few years those perverts have been after my tootsies for years the nsa set up wiki feed back in the 70s with secret program they got morgan freeman on the shed of unforgivans look at they got a file on everyone here's john lennon oh no jean

looks like they've captured my tootsies don't let them get you don't let them get you don't let them get you I love this whole scene in the elevator though Hackman stops it like on the way up and he's got the gun in his face and he's doing a lot of like which fucking rules and he's pulling all of the bugs off of Bill Smith's body. He's got a bag of

Utt's potato chips that he dumps all over this dude like he's a freshman. Yeah it's totally a little hazing routine. I'm gonna make you eat it eat these Uts potato chips. That's a good like character traders that he likes Uts potato chips and that's like a small enough brand that it doesn't feel is a shitty product Yes it's a Frito

Or Heineken, which is all over. He's in the same Heineken truck like three times. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, you got to get money for your movie somehow. And here's a Vlasic Pickle. Now you're going to take your pants off. And you're going to pick it up with your cheeks. The Heineken just reminds me.

I watched the Marine for the first time recently. Oh, boy. The John Cena movie. Oh, okay. You want to see Miller genuine draft. That is a third build character in that movie. M.G.D. Seriously? Yes, dude.

You might have had it. You might as well have a tattooed on his fucking chest. It's like every other shot. It's almost worth of watch for Robert Patrick, I will set. That reminds me in our commentary on the game, we point out the egregious product placement of that one shot where it's like Michael Douglas is walking in the middle of the street and a huge truck just comes right in that.

I can't remember what alcohol it is, yeah. Yeah, it's probably booze or something or like a fruit juice or something like that. Well, this is a good way to tell people to check out the gamementary, our singable commentary track on Patreon for The Game. But he's ripping up all the bugs. Do they know me? Am I a target? You get it right here like, oh, this dude

is way paranoid. You have something they want! Which is a great line. But this is the first instance of you're either incredibly smart or incredibly stupid. The second time is way better because a snack is involved in it.

But so yeah, he's put all the bugs in the bag because the bag's going to like make the signals die or whatever. And they're going to the roof because he thinks there's sat there's, he knows there's a bunch of satellite dishes on this roof of this hotel or whatever and he thinks if they get up there it might scramble the sequences. John Voight and his team

by the way have this like private helicopter that's floating around the skies and everything too. It's smart because this movie doesn't like I think at least twice where Gene Hackman even though he's so up on everything doesn't know exactly what the NSA is capable of. Like even he is like a couple of steps behind. Like he's like it'll take four minutes and it takes

them like no time whatsoever later on. But he Yeah, he does know that, like, you know, what they have now is much more powerful what I was fucking around with or whatever. There's a few lines about like, and that was 20 years ago when they had that. Right, yeah, so he's been out of the service. It is great, though. What the hell's e-mail? He's looking at all the bugs or whatever.

Will Smith's like, yeah, the mafia is all over my ass with this stuff, right? And he's like, you think the mafia has equipment like this? No, like, no, those fucking goombas are not using this high-tech shit on you. I just found out about an email who the hot young singles are waiting to see me. Apparently, I need something called an away message. Well, yes. Computer, yes, I would like to have sex with older single ladies in my neighborhood. Let me reply yes to that.

Now, get back to this away message. Maybe some song lyrics will be pretty sharp. Maybe some old Frankie Blue Eyes. How about some Sinatra Lines? I can't help you, Mr. Dean. I got this Nigerian prince that needs my help right now. He's in a real jam. I got to send him $15,000.

No, I would like to see singles around. My age, not too much older. Yeah, my cumm is actually too thin. Yeah. Seamanex, excellent. And these gummies are going to make it bigger? I guarantee you that's not a word that would ring well in my ear to hear. Seaminex?

Which I don't, it probably wasn't invented here, right? No, I mean, someone who has been working on Seamanex for years and year. Like a concoction, like a pruno, they made it in the toilet. No, that's someone's life work, dude. Like Norman Osborne of the Green Goblin serum. back to formula rack to semenx formula I don't think so

you mean I got a nut all over again the cum goblin flies tonight it's time for human trials Peter I'm throwing webs on my own Hackman sort of ends this scene because the helicopter's coming and he's like you'll live another day I'll be very

surprised I'm very impressed he doesn't even fucking runs away just get rid of your clothes yes and this is another great chase scene. He gets down to Mr. Wu's show. Dude, Mr. and Mrs. Wu likes it. Big trailer moment here when he's kind of half-naked jumping around things.

Seth Green, really, he jumped to 15. Yes, yes. Seth Green watching this, like it's a sporting event or whatever. But yeah, he gets into this one hallway of the hotel and he sees that Mr. Wu has had like a piece of correspondence sort of halfway under the door. He picks it up pretending to like deliver it or whatever.

Bruckheimer house style here. People who don't speak English being very silly, like the old Chinese lady clapping and thinking that he's doing his strip tease. It's silly. Mrs. Wu, dude, is that poor Mr. Wu. He didn't order this. He doesn't know what's going on. She must have, oh, this is my birthday? Oh, dude, you got me a dude. Oh, you know me. We've been talking about it.

You know me so well. Oh, Mr. Wu. I love you. I love you too, Mrs. Wu. You're going to get cucked tonight, Mr. Wu. I know it. and then he escapes where like the balcony and there's a great I think it was Barry Pepper being let's not involve the hotel guests in this I love these like diplomat

perhaps it slipped in amongst the purchases those kind of lines I love in this movie they also take his clothes which is actually kind of interesting I think they don't want to leave anything for anybody no no no you got to clean up every step of the way dude but yeah he jumps down and gets into like another room and he finds clothes he finds this is the bathrobe

right he puts this ratty ass bathrobe on And then he commits like suicide by burning himself to death. This is, I gotta say it's a ballsy move, but it's also smart. Like he locks himself in a supply closet and they're all trying to get in. And he fucking sets the room on fire. Hell yeah, dude. And the fresh playbook. He thinks like, but I guess, you know, rightfully, but it's a real gamble.

Like, oh, the fire department will get me out of here. And he is indeed taken out in a stretcher by, you know, the fire department. And they can't do shit. They're standing there. They can't do fucking shit. it's pretty smart they're going to get up at the hospital but he gets out of the ambulance first i do like that south green light he's escaped the ambulance

also the ambulance of course because the tony scott movie is lit like a submarine like yeah baby he's beyond green lights that they have on there down periscope bring that thing down start looking around what's on the road but yeah he grabs this cop's gun that's how he escapes the ambulance or whatever

and then we got this chase going here through this tunnel yeah i had to look it up it's not the dude but man i was wishing it was. There's the guy who's like tunnel coordinator or whatever and he's given like information about I thought it was the dude from Batman Begins he's like if the water pressure reaches the tower

we're all doomed. This guy's great though yeah just an old dude that you could imagine actually works in one of these things saying where these ventilations. Did you read the trivia about this the car sequence in these tunnels? Because yeah so he gets down into this tunnel which is like this sub area or whatever

and it turns out it was a very costly move. Supposedly I don't know this is IMDB so it probably is bullshit I don't know but they apparently took the cars apart and rebuilt them down there for these shots because they couldn't fit them in there hole through to where this

like tunnel is or whatever so they had to rebuild them and like repaint them and then at the end they had to cut them up again and bring them back up it's crazy it's so nuts man well I mean the shot's pretty cool I'm not sure if it's worth that I mean that's a very cool shot I'll give you that there's not a lot

of it like he's just kind of like running through this one part you see a car like slowly chasing him for a little bit it's kind of it's cool it's like scary but a few guys with guns could have also done yeah we could have had a foot chase here and not this slow moving car chase but it gets out the other side or whatever

and this is like Will Smith's like running through the actual traffic part of the tunnel and they're trying to chase him and whatever and this is it's all really good it's all like super kinetic and oh yeah baby you know really sort of like well shot and whatever and so Will Smith sort of gets the drop on them here because he sees some

fucking bum sitting on the side of the road what does he say here it's something like I never thought I'd do this or something like that sorry buddy basically and just swaps clothes and the next scene is basically him bringing in Regina King he's in he's in the shed the dog smells him

yeah poor she sniffs him out dude fucking little nark dog he explains what's going to she she believes it really quickly which is you know it's great it's nice but you know not true to life so what are you just eating Rachel Banks's ass right now But that's the thing. You have to do it because, like, there's no way this movie needs another scene like that.

No, exactly. You know what I mean? Let's fucking get on with it. And she's like, you know, she wants to help him. But she kind of just disappears after the scene a little bit. She's not really in the movie much. Speaking of not in the movie much, right before this is where we're introduced to Anna Gunn. Oh, yes. As John Voigt's trophy wife, they were indeed separated by 30 years of age, which is crazy. Which is a normal thing, yeah. But she has, it's just this quick throwaway line to give Void a little more motivation. here. Oh, honey, like once

this bill passes, you're definitely going to get that big promotion. Yada, yada, yada. Got to keep a hot wife satisfied. Well, that, Regina King is horny for a minute. Yes, she's ready to fucking this shed.

Dude, she's going to get fingered in this shed. Don't worry about it. He's also wearing, this is also a plot point, but it's also, it's a movie, so that's the plot point. She's wearing the lingerie that he bought her. And he gets all pissed off, like, oh, you went through the bag, you're as bad as the sun, And then he's like, oh, wait a minute, and he realizes.

The stupid game boy thing. Yes. The stupid game boy thing must be with my son. And so we sort of orchestrate this whole thing where the housekeeper is going to drive out with and get the boys while Will Smith is hiding in the back. Kind of dress like I robot here a little bit with the hat. Sure. Longcoat.

Or Hancock. Is that, are those clothes from the house or is that the homeless guys fit? No, he asks her for clothes. Okay, okay. because at one point I was like It's very clean That's a very well-dressed homeless man But yeah he does

Because he's got the I robot skull cap on And the leather jacket Do you get a cutaway with Jack Black Saying like oh I wish I could follow The cleaning woman Because those types of women Don't shave their legs And it's so hot

And apparently there's a like deleted moments Of him continuing Talking about this old lady fetish I'm sure you get Jack Black in a room He's improv and Tony Scott's like Put it in the movie It's a little flavor Yeah

Little, yeah, a little bit of flavor. So she's driving along. The kids are walking to school. She's like, hey, you know, get in the car, whatever. And so Will Smith's doing like a hiding behind in the backseat. Like, hey, boys, how's it going? No, Eric, turn around. Yes.

And, you know, it's like, oh, listen, I'm not going to be mad. But when I brought those Christmas presents home, did you look and take anything out of it? And they're like, yeah, but here's the thing, Mr. Dean. It's broken anyway. We couldn't get the game to work in it. It's a neo-geo something or other. You could put turbographic 16. This game of killing a senator sucks.

You can only do one move, inject neck. I just keep on doing it. I win every time. It's not like I can lose. And there's a bunch of fucking ducks and geese. It's the worst game ever. Remember what our god Dave Koresh says. Every gift is a gift.

All right. So you enjoy your Nat Geo. Killing Jason Robar. But yes, he gets this thing. Yeah, this thing was like a, it was like a Game Boy competitor. that failed horribly. Oh yeah. Anyone else have a game gear? No, because we just weren't a Sega household

and that went for handhelds as well. It was a Sega thing. The handheld was the deciding moment because I did have a Genesis and a Nintendo but then I just got a game. Little rich boy. A little rich boy. It wasn't he. But so yeah, he gets the thing

kind of the deal. I think is the next scene where he finds out that Rachel has been murdered? Yes, because he calls the cops. on Kennedy and Green's van. They're outside her house. Great move.

Great move, right? Because this van's parked out there calls in as like a meth thing or a drug thing. And they're going to check it out. And they're listening. They're like, oh shit,

they're listening to the police scanner. Oh shit, that's us. We've got our move, which is great. So they drive off and then he shows up, gets in the house

and yes, she is dead on the bathroom floor. And then he notices, well, that sucks, but also what sucks more is my shit is scattered all over this house somehow. Oh, Lordy, Lordy, Lordy.

And there's photos of Gene Hackman right now. What is the relationship with Lisa Bonnet and Gene Hackman? So Gene Hackman's dead partner that he talks about that got left behind in Iran is her father. And they made a pact as partners. If one of them died, the other person takes care of the family. So you know, Christopher Walken and Pulp Fiction? Yep. Take the ring and the asshole out of the equation.

I will not be putting a watch in my ass. I will not be part of your daughter. my ass. Take that out. That's about what the relationship is. Oh, and he finds his little cufflings with his initials on him. That's the big... Quentin. No, I'm not putting anything on my ass. Well, then you're going to recast with walking, right?

Because that guy will shove stuff up his ass. Yeah, it's fine. I don't... I don't have to be a stupid movie anyway. I don't have to be in any of your movies, actually. It's really okay with me. But after the murder, he tracks down Hackman again. And I thought I told you to

stay the fuck away for me. This is so awesome. But he says that they've killed Rachel, which now makes Hackman angry but sympathetic. And he's like, oh, God, damn it. Right. And like how it had nothing to do with Rachel. The NSA is just trying to set you up

and they'll do this to anyone kind of thing. And very pointedly, they drive to like a gas station. I'm hypoglycemic. I need to eat pretzels every 45 minutes. I was like, go fucking crazy. And he specifically tells him he's like, now when I'm going and buying snacks, you see, don't make any phone call.

whatsoever. And this is around when I have to start docking the movie a little bit because there's way too many winks at each other from now on. Like 50 winks at each other. Yeah, winks? Yeah, they wink at each other. Every five seconds, they're less like, yeah, you know, I like the Uch, pretzels, wink. I don't know if that was like a secret moment you had to wink about it. But Hackman gets caught on the security camera here in the convenience store and because they're tracking will smith made the phone call then they're like oh who's the who was he with he's in the store they start doing facial recognition on jean he should have just walked in there and bought his

pretzels with like a zodi mask on a big old unknown comic thing this is the zodiac speaking i know i'm not taking the pettos sac off my face you see no pretzels not pretzels sticks okay i don't want no those this is disgusting i don't want roll gold i want Hudson, I swear to God, if there's honey mustard in that fucking bag, you're cooked. Eric, you said you've been getting to pretzels lately? Is that my understanding? Oh, I'm starting to fuck around with pretzels. I like that for you.

Yeah, because, like, I've never liked pretzels my life. But now that I'm 31, I just suddenly started like, oh, you know, I actually kind of like pretzels now. It's a new thing for me. Pretzels are great. And I've only tried one flavor thus far. Plain. Pretzel flavored pretzels? Regular-degular, yeah, just the little salted guys.

Now, I was just saying that Gene Hackman's character didn't want honey mustard pretzels, but I will tell you, dude. Andrew, honey mustard pretzels, look out. I didn't even know there were flavored pretzels. Oh, hell yeah. You know what you want to get into? The Snyder's, like, pretzel. The pretzel bites.

Yes. They're pretty different. I want to get into the... That might be a little slippery slope. That's dangerous. He was first into the world of Snyders. That's a Snyder versus I'll get behind. Eric, Eric, don't worry.

Eric, just... All you have to do is, all you have to remember. remember, you just smoke it, you don't shoot it. That's all you got to remember with Pressiles. The good thing about pretzels, Chris, is it's from the earth. It's okay. It's fine. I made dirt dirt, don't hurt.

Hackman takes him, this gets a little more conversationally here, Hackman takes him to his hideout where he has a homemade Faraday cage for his office. And a cat that would be dead in minutes. So many times this cat

and like the idea that Will Smith has to get this cat in five minutes. Good fucking luck. There should be a joke about the nine lives or something. Oh, now he's down to one. My cat would be dead. He'll go get your cat. I can't. He's not coming out.

So he's dead. I guess he's dead now. Great. I'm certainly not going to blow up in the building with your cat. So that's it. We should talk about this whole setup, though, right? This mesh cage, like copper wiring just block any electro-magnetics thing. He calls it the jar. I think is what he says. And this, by the way, speaking of a pair well with a pretzel.

This apparently was a former Dr. Pepper Factory. Yes, that's right. That we're talking. That they shot this in. Which is pretty sweet. It probably still smelled like delicious Dr. Pepper. Can you imagine? But they find his car from the thing.

And like, we're also doing an info dump. Like they're like, oh, he's XNS. And like, Don Boots, of course, that makes sense. This is where we get the photo of him from the conversation. This is where he also explains that there are a hundred key words that if you say over the phone, we're not saying internet at the time but if you use it over the phone that you are on like

an NSA person has to look into it if you say X over the phone they then It's like president bomb Yes terrorists They say Allah which is I think the list has gotten longer Eric

So we've already been there I don't know what you're trying to get is Dude this is a post Patriot Act society dude They fucking saw the shit you took this morning Oh boy apologize to the nice NSA I'm sirs I'm sorry

did you see the Siska shit this morning I'm sorry five out of five for me I don't know how you guys rate you know what you know what Johnson you've been you've been late six times that's right you get Siska's shit camp duty oh man not a game and I heard he's getting into pretzels

this job gets worse every day but so that they they come in and like Well, he, this is Hackman, uh, watches the video, because it's a really great, Jesus Christ, because it's like a, I know what I've got on my hand. Jason Robarts. Oh, all right. So he said, oh, he's not to the movie anymore. What happened to the dog? What happened to the dog? God damn it. They find out, though, you know, who Voight is at the same time. And he's like, this guy's not a professional. He's a politician. It's so great. So good. And then they start fucking with him now, right? Yeah. I love that. Well, this is the very long, another chase sequence because they're escaping the building.

He explodes. Again, he puts this cat in a fucking leather bag, and the cat's like, cool, man, I'm going to relax. It's good cat acting. It's not a believable cat, but it's cat acting. That thing must have been drugged from here to King of Comic. It allowed itself to be stuffed into a bowling bag like that. This explosion's great.

We get this great line. I blew up the building. Why? Because you made a phone call. It's a dude trailer line. But it is so, that is stuff of legend. That is a legendary Gene Hackman line right there. It's really good.

Could you made a phone call? I will say this, because it's another great Tony Scott chasing. It's not going to go note for note. No, the disc is just destroyed after Will Smith catches on fire. So dumb. I think that is a weak part of this movie, is that the movie, because also like Tony Scott's like, I don't know, how about the ending of true romance again?

Like it just, we want, I want like there to be in a less kinetic, frenetic 90s movie. I'd like it to be like, and, you know, a trial, not a trial sequence, but like, the news report, it comes out in some way. Or they hack the satellite and it just plays as the news or something. Exactly. He gets arrested, you don't know what I mean, but no, it's got to be this big

it's kind of a stupid ending. It's kind of, you know, it's sort of like this setup with the mafia is kind of smart because it shows what this character does with his life, he's a lawyer, but then it really only exists to end the movie. It's day asex mafia. Yeah. I'm also,

I'm also fine with being like the NSA, those guys, but it's no different than mafia people. Oh, yeah, totally. If that's the point he's making, I'm pretty happy with that at this point. Worse. I mean, yes, for me, of course, but just for them to say that in a neighborhood. Well, look, everyone. At least Tom Seismore and all those mafios so are helping out the neighborhood.

Sure. They're making sure Mama Giuseppe, you know, gets in safely when it's raining, all that stuff. What does the NSA doing nothing like that? Bothering people who work at cool restaurants. Yeah, you have the federal government trying to end labor unions in this country and the mafia's trying to help them out a little bit. Come on.

Look, I'm with you guys for the most part, but you guys are buying into big mafia. I will. Chris, I'm buying the dip. After Q&N killed one of them, I'm buying the dinn. They're due for a resurgence. I'm not going to get rug pulled.

I'm buying it. They also realize, so they start fucking with John Boyt and Stuart Wilson too. Yes. because this is where they do this is another kind of conversation moment with Stuart Wilson because

Gene Hackman bugs the next hotel room over which is exactly what his character in the conversation does which is not the same character in this movie just going to reiterate that again but it is that same thing and it's kind of funny because there's one part here where Will Smith is like he says something about like oh I got to go to the bathroom or whatever

it is and I was like that's kind of funny because that fucking bathroom in the conversation he's just it's the only movie I've seen this far where Gene Hackman is fucking around with a toilet like that? It's awesome. All I need is somebody to say he'll kill us if he gets the chance.

Oh, yes. That's the one thing missing, yeah. But yeah, so they bugged this hotel room and it's like this dude's having a meeting or whatever and his chief of staff assistant, whatever she comes in, she starts sucking his cock and that's like what we're filming here. We really imply blowjob. It's not even, not even

imply, you almost see it. I mean, her head's moving right in front of his fucking pelvis. Like the only thing you're is this guy's big juicy dick like that's it like there is a blowjob in enemy of the state isn't like jean havin like get it girl he says exactly what he says oh get it girl or like have fun mr congress

no he says basically oh uh you're a little too young to look at this and by the way it's it's never young to watch this so is she says will smith and it's it's blow job cut to cat that goes which is kind of amazing Cut to pussy. I was watching pornography again. Cut to pussy.

Well, they did. Well, they did. They revealed that they have been bugging them by fucking with the television set. We're on TV. We're on TV. Yes. And so now, like, the little kid. Stuart Wilson basically calls the other thing.

What the hell is going on here? Right. And also, Hackman, they bug Voitz House also, right? Oh, that's what that's what that's what's. I thought I was talking about the TV. They're watching the TV. That's like, hey, we're on TV. It's, oh, dude, him with that little girl.

Dude, he cannot sanction the fucking channel surfing. Well, because this is the problem with these old guys and the Turfie Wives is now you're a 70-year-old man with a four-year-old kid. And it's not your grandson. You've got to raise this fucking thing. Well, no, no, no, you don't. You're going to be dead. So it's kind of a great idea, right? Because then you're like, oh, I get five years maybe.

and then my hands are all too shaky for diapers. Oh, totally. So then I just die. Oh, what can I do? I can't help out with the baby because my old man hands was shaking. Exactly, yeah, I got... The Tony Randall maneuver.

Parkinson's, I mean, parking the carsons or whatever. I'm busy. It's great because she's changing the channel. It's like, you know, that's, you need to find one station and stick with it. It's very annoying. Yes, it's so fucking great. And then finally, they hit the station where they're on TV

because the fire detector has a camera. And while that is, yeah, the Anna Gunn is like, honey, uh, my private bank account has a whole $140,000 deposited in it out of nowhere. And that's great. Just, can we just stay on Caddyshack? I know there's commercials. But can we just stay here and just camp here for a while? But then it's awesome, dude, because just fucking with this dude, even more there's a flower delivery. And Santa Gunn's like, who's Krista?

Eternally yours, Krista. Oh, man. They should teepee. And then next we'll teepee his house. Get the eggs ready. It's going to be a real Halloween night around here. He's going to fall asleep. We're going to put a little shaving cream in his hand

and tickle his nose with a feather. That's right. We're going hardcore. Potato in the tailpunt. What we're going to do is we're going to put some bologna on the car. And when he tries to pull that off, paint goes off too. This is where we get Bulldog from Frasier.

The last man who was in Hollywood that wasn't in this movie. They're like, I don't know. Bulldog. from Fraser, sure. Absolutely, dude. So he's Schaefer and he's basically the, I think he's the head of the NSA because John Void is not yet and that's the whole, he's trying to get this promotion or whatever. I love this scene from Bulldog. You read everybody the Riot Act like if I find out that someone's

this might be a legitimate app, that's fine. But if someone is doing a vanity project or something like that, someone is going to prison which is such a, yes, it's really good. I wanted to find Bulldog's name. Dan Butler I knew it was Dan something. Yeah, Dan, and Butler is this dude. And so that's going on. Hackman calls, like, while the meeting is going on and says they want to discuss the tape, which they don't have anymore, because it's set on fire.

This is great when he dresses up as a police officer. And he's like, an old guy, you know, like, you would not, I see Gene Hagman dressed as a cop. I'm not crossing that. No, no, no way. But, yeah, so this is the whole, you know, he gets himself wired up. And he's, Will Smith now is the guy up in the room looking down, monitoring everything. and it's got four minutes.

Yes. Four minutes, you've got to go. Yeah, the signals when I start chewing gum, start recording four minutes, they're going to find you then. Because it's smart because he's behind a fence so they can't pat him down and he's dressed like a cop so they're not going to fucking shoot him in the head.

Yep. And I'm curious, do you think this is Saddam Hussein's favorite scene? Thank you for bringing this up. Apparently this was Saddam, one of Saddam Hussein's favorite movies. Just favorite movies. Yes, Andrew, you found that tidbit. And I started digging around.

And it turns out he was a big. Francis Ford Coppola had. He also loved, his favorite movie was the Godfather, he loved The Conversation, and he loved Enemy of the State. I wonder if Dear Old Saddam bought into that theory if this is the same character. No, I was too much of a sophisticated cinephile. There's

no way, young chap, that's a sequel. What are you stupid? No, I learned at Oxford that it wasn't the case. Hackman's got a great line here, too. He's like, he says to John Void, he goes, why don't you call your friends over? As in like, I know all these dudes around here are also fucking working with you all.

come right in front of my fence here and they start talking and Hackman's whole thing this is kind of very smart here he thinks that he makes Will Smith think that he's fucking him right here because he's like all right here's what I want I'll give you the tape I want

my full pension reinstated my retirement back $1.85 million dollars you know whatever it is like and Will Smith's like is this guy cut in a deal while I'm getting screwed up here it's fucking awesome but he's like say that you killed the senator

say it out loud Come on, do it. Now, how many, I just, you know, thinking out loud here, how many pretzels could you get me for the information I have about Jason Robo? Yeah, that's right. Pretzels is currency these days for me. Right, he starts asking about money and all that stuff,

which is interesting. Oh, he's losing his mind. Oh, no. But Barry Pepper breaks in and knocks out Will Smith. And there's this great, when Gene Hackman's, like, trying to walk away or whatever, he's like, shoot a cop right here. You won't last five seconds on the street

or whatever that line is. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, you won't make it a block or something. Yes, you wouldn't get a block. Fucking great. Walks away, but then gets just fucking abducted, you know. Sure, yeah.

Now he's in the bag of the van, and we're sort of leading up to this like, uh-oh, we're both caught. They're both in the van. Where's the tape? Smith gives him the address, which is the mafia address. First, they shoot Gene Hackman at the hand.

Boyt does because he's just fucking sick of it. Yes. And that's kind of like, you know, for a dude like this that like plants bugs and uses computers and shit, like getting your hand fucked up is not good for business. But again, I just like, this is just, it's an ending to the movie. It's totally fine. Yeah, yeah. But I want more from this.

I want like real repercussions. Again, it's not on theme either. You know what I mean? We're not talking about the surveillance state anymore. We're just now talking about the mafia and shooting guns. Boy, you would like real repercussions, would you? Well, wouldn't we all, Stephen? I mean, we all like that.

It's not a fucking fantasy film, Steve. Exactly. Like, this is, it's a real. Is you going to Mordor later? What the fuck? So then I, how do I get everybody, how do I get everybody in the White House into a mafia restaurant?

That's, yes, exactly. That's where we, that's where we are. Unfortunately, that's the deep, not the deep state. The state is so strong that nothing to take them down except for maybe the benevolent mafia. Tom Seismore specifically. I don't even know about the mafia.

Dude, imagine the mafia does a hit on all government. And then, like, we get one of these guys in the White House. I'll tell you, the mafia wouldn't fucking talk about a hit on a fucking text chain. I'll tell you that much. No, the mafia knows how to button it up professionally. And if someone did, they'd fucking kill that guy. And they'd be right to do it. Oh, wow.

Oh, wow. Hey, you were fucking telling about the hit on Signal. You're fucking done. Cement shoes for you, buddy. I will say we're not looking for any trouble. No, certainly not. But so this is the whole thing. And Will Smith is like, well, you got to go in with me, John Voigt, blah, blah, blah,

and, you know, back and forth, some arguing for a bit. John Void agrees to do it. And this is the second, you're either incredibly smart or incredibly stupid. And he just eats this huge pretzel in his hand. And this is, you know, another big winky moment. The old man winks just creep me out. Yeah, I got that. We get, yeah, Tom Seismore and his fucking fat little nephews here and his sister all.

It's just sitting around in the middle of this poor. restaurant's kitchen eating there's got to be a free table out there Tom's like that you can curse and smoke back there yes you don't want to be around the regular people well I feel like this might be one of those restaurants where like you go in and it's like

oh I heard there's good pasta at this establishment and some fucking Guido goes like we ran out of pasta you know and you're like oh I got it you know okay I'm not going to eat here members only understood yeah exactly no you can't watch this soccer game with us Oh, wait, what? We can't go to Jimbo's in a story?

Weird. But so, yeah, they go in and Will Smith's like, oh, hey, Tom Seismore, this is the gentleman you want to meet. And I do, yes, it's DeSX Mafia, but I do like this because Tom Seismore thinks that John Voigt has the fucking vacation video and like, because we're just saying the tape. Yeah, it's funny. It's smart. It's funny. I totally agree. but yeah Tony they just pulled the guy out of the van he's puking and bleeding all over himself

I love Gene Hackman right here like knows to get out of the car because he knows that they're being watched and it's like oh here's a dude gushing blood and vomiting elderly gentleman's bleeding and vomiting the FBI's also like oh shit it's a city cop

yes that's right the hackman make sure to flash the badge out of his coat yeah which is really smart and fucking Jake Busey is the one that fucks all this up as always he's gonna do it

right he runs in with like a machine gun well the mobster cook with a shotgun gets him in the back and that sets off the chain of events the same thing happens in car attack because we got a big Mexican standoff here it's the US government holding guns on the mafia and vice versa

and then yeah Jake Busy runs in teething it up and this fucking old dude the sauce specialist is just like hey that's not cool and fires a shotgun at him and it's just they all just get wasted reservoir dog stuff nobody nobody thinks to go under the table where will smith is it's just a will thought so will smith survives jack black

is taken out on a stretcher and whatever with that jack black surviving that i'll say watching void get shot 40 times is pretty fine it rules that absolutely rules and there's a lot of like he's laying there dead after the fact but actually there's one moment in the movie that is actually even better than that it's 30 seconds earlier when john void starts getting into Tom Seisbore's face. Tom Seiswore grabs John Voiced head

and shoves it. He muffs this motherfucker and it's so good. I've always wanted to do that to an old man. Well, it's so cool too because, like, he's, like, Void is just playing this, like, stuffy government idiot and you realize in that moment, like,

with all their training and their billions of dollars of technology, this, not the other thing, you don't got shit on the fucking mafia, man. You got nothing on the mafia. It's weird because when Tony Scott was talking to, Tom Seisbore about what he wanted for the movie. He's like, well, how much money you want to?

One million? Two is like, no. For me, shoving John Void is the juice. I'll do this one, Grottis. And I don't want a hear cut for a while. This is going to be one of your nice long takes. You keep telling me I got to do the head shove repeatedly. We didn't get it, Tom.

That's what I want to hear. I want to hear that often, Tony. 300 takes later. but yeah so the FBI finally rolls up here after all of that and they're trying to figure out what's going on hackman gets back in the police uniform and just dodges gets out of there with the cat he's holding the cat you see the cat's tail wagon as he walks

around the corner which is funny and just vanishes will Smith like runs out of the restaurant trying to find him but he's already just disappeared himself into the city and now the movie is wrap it up we gotta get the fuck out of here you know because you're at like two hours right here And it's like, oh, the bill definitely failed. And you got Congressman Watts's his face there being like, oh, well, it failed in this form.

But don't worry, it'll be back in three years as the Patriot Act. We've got to rewrite some stuff. It'll be back in enemy of the state, too. Well, at the end, it's just starring you and me. Enemy of the State, too, United 95. Stuart Wilson is like, you know what we need. We need just something to rally the whole country together. Some kind of an attack that would have to be public.

Like, one of the, one of the bigger buildings we've got. Yeah. And none of my loved ones could be heard in it, but others should be. Totally fine. Others. Just not me. I do like the scene with Jack Black and Jamie Kennedy being a debriefed or interrogated by whomever.

Yes. And it's like, none of these guys are breaking. Do they know that John Boyd is dead? Like, yes, they do. And, like, Jamie Kennedy's like, oh, I thought it was a training exercise. Just thought it was a training. Jack Black is dressed up like an old lady trying to, like, do a frivolous lawsuit. Yes.

Because he's like in this wheelchair and he's got a neck brace. You thought it was just a training exercise. Are you trying to heckle me, sir? Is that what you're doing to me right now? So does, is Seth Green in that mafia kitchen? I don't think so. Because what the hell happens to him? I mean, I think him and the, and the Elfman boy,

I think they probably, maybe they just get arrested. Yeah, everybody gets arrested. This is why I needed that missile. Yeah. To take them all the fuck out. I mean, you know, Gary Busey, or Jake Busey does get it. Scott Kahn definitely gets it. And the move is don't say,

training, actually, just say you don't recall it. That's what you can do, apparently. You can do it every want. I don't recall. Yeah, it's easy. But yeah, so then Will Smith, everything is fine at home.

We've got this like, I wouldn't mind doing a little monitoring myself. We're going to fuck. Mom and dad are going to fuck. And like, little kids are you talking about sex? Meanwhile, Gene Kackman's watching in the Bahamas. Oh, yeah, get her. Get it, girl.

Help her. And so Regina King goes to, like, feed the kid dinner. And as Will Smith is about to get up, the TV starts futs in a little bit. You just see this fucking old man leg going on the beach, like a weird AARP-sponsored Corona. Also, in the Sand Wish You were here. So there he got away. It's nice. You're classic.

I mean, again, San Juan Taneo. Plug and play. I want him to say that he wants to go to a beach at some point. It's kind of surprising that that's not in. that like Faraday cage scene or something. You know, one day I was retired to the islands or something. But just, it's like, ah, you know, it's a beach. He's happy.

People are happy on the beach, whatever. You know, sure. Yeah. But then it's just, if we pull out or whatever, and you get the MTV satellite coming over the fucking screen again. And Larry King just out of nowhere, you've got no right to come into my house. End of movie.

Wild that Larry King gets the last word in this movie. He's right. He is right. Stop coming to my house. I don't like it. You know, this end. Ty, Mutant Bill is going to... What movie am I doing again? Which have done is this?

These X-Men. You hear about this? This guy in Westchester? He's got a whole school full of kids. Imagine that kid's in a school. That's weird. Oh, man, but that is the end of Tony Scott's Enemy of the State. We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts. Mr. Siska. Yeah, no, it's very good. I had a lot of fun revisiting this. It's been a long time since I've seen it. I saw in the theaters.

I saw it a few times on TV. It's a really good, fun, energetic movie. It's not perfect. We'll save that for the conversation on Patreon. Chris Cabin. Oh, yeah. What conversation on Patreon? The conversation on the conversation.

The Patriots to kill us if they could. Who's on a first? No, it's a really good movie. I like that Tony Scott is good at Chase movies. Like movies that are just about like two people getting to know each other in a tense situation over things. And like I kind of prefer this kind of thing to buddy cop movies. I like this tension. I like this friction.

And I think both Will Smith, this is fucking, this is the miracle run. Even the bad stuff of this run is better than most of Will Smith's recent output. But yeah, yeah, a hell of a movie to come upon on TNT or TBS because I will sit down for it. Yeah, absolute ass magnet, too, for sure. Super fun. Yeah, again, I have problems with the last act, whatever. I mean, that's not really needed to hear or another. That would make it like a really good movie.

Like, this is a good movie, but it could be a really good movie, I think. Oh, yeah. And also, this is the benefit, I think, of just, which is something that we don't, you know, like, just cast your movie. Like, there are people out there. If you're going to put a bunch of money in a movie, like, just fill it with people who could do the thing. Because even, even, like, the smallest roles, if you, if you, it's not even just the fun stuff for, like, losers like us. like character actors, it elevates the movie that there are people

that have presence and faces. Yes. Oh, I remember that. That's the Jack Black guy. That's this guy. It just makes a huge difference. And I wish more movies, like, more big movies did this. Well, they do that now, but it's like, that's an Instagram model I know. That's an Instagram

model I know. But like Jack Black and Seth Green and Jamie Kennedy, like for, you know, I'm not saying they're fucking brandos, but like They have presents and they can act. Yes. You know, to some degree.

I agree completely. You know. Yeah, no, I had not gone back to this. Like I said, since theaters, I had a really good time with it. I was realizing, I was looking at his filmography. The, like, the back, the back nine of Tony Scott's career, I haven't seen a ton of. Unstoppable Massachusetts. I saw that in the theater and I didn't like it.

And now everyone on Twitter loves it. So I have to go back and love it, too. Do you? Yes. Okay. You oddly put some real dumb pressure on yourself. Oh, I'm trying to be hip and with it. That's why I'm eating pretzels.

Bad. Okay, sure. You're getting into oatmeal too? No, I just don't understand the love for that movie. But admittedly, I need to go back to it. It's all I'm trying to say, Chris. It's a, I think it's quite a wonderful movie. It's worth seeing.

Regardless, I think this is great. I had a lot of fun with this. Four stars on Letterbox had a really, really good time. You know, remembering Mr. Hackman, And I did indeed, a few days after he passed, or we found out he passed, I did watch Crimson Tide for the very first time. Oh, wow, yeah. Speaking of Tony Scott, had a great time with that.

He's got a great fuck you to Denzel Washington in that movie. Get the fuck out of here, like, or whatever it is. It's great. But that is going to do it for this conversation on a Gene Hackman movie. However, over on Patreon, patreon. Patreon.com slash we ate movies later this month. We will be releasing a We Love Movies all about, that's right, Frankie Ford Coppola's The Conversation, which.

controversial opinion maybe here. This is my favorite Francis Ford Coppola. Really? I think I agree. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to be doing that. Sure as fucking megalopoulos. I'll say that much. Which is a good movie as well and I wish the Don Hussein lived to see it. Wow, I just thought it was a big mess old boy, but it was

still watchable as I'll get out. You're double parked. Get out of you. That, Aubrey Plaza, am I right? Oh, man. But you can listen to this very episode on Enemy of the State ad free, along with all the We Hate Movies episodes we've been putting out over the last

year and a half or so going forward. Commercial free on that Patreon. Patreon.com slash we ate movies where this month we have a lot of offerings going around. And not just this was last, at the end of last month we dropped, we'd be talking about it, the game, the game and Terry is a single commentary on David Finchers in the game, a great movie, a great commentary, great time

to hang out, animation damnation, redacted. We don't know just yet. We'll figure it out. Gleap Blossary. We will be talking about Newt Gunray. That's the Trade Federation Fellow. I felt like it's a good time to talk about trade wars on the show. Absolutely. That'll work perfectly. And speaking of wars, Chris, what's going on on Melro 2 and O.

We have hit the thrilling conclusion, question mark of Daddy Wars. And it is a hell of an episode. It's really, I think it's going to go down and up as one of one of the better ones. And also, I mean, it's a 90210. we really do take quite a lot of time with it. But the Melrose is a good one too. Oh yeah. We're also, I do not

I'm going to be calling it but dial murder. Sure. But the actual name Pocket dial murder. That's our once in a lifetime. That is our once in a lifetime for this month. At the top tier we do every other month we do a lifetime movie. So tune in for that. If you are listening to this on the Tuesday that it comes out,

that once in a lifetime will be out this Thursday. There you go. That is right. Also, check us out if you're in England or have access to England, I know that's being restricted these days. Yeah. The Oxford Comedy Festival this summer in July, we have a six show residency and tickets are flying. So WHMpodcast.com slash tour for more info. That's right. Now, as always, next Tuesday, there's going to be another We Hate Movies episode piping hot out of the oven, Steve Sadek. What movie are we talking

about? Oh, get your, get ready to turn your grandmother's head right around. It's Punisher Warzone. Hell yeah, dude. Gonna be talking a lot about our recently, sadly, lost Ray Stevenson in this movie. But that fucking head turned. I'll tell you what, I think about that old lady getting her head turned around at least once a month. I swear to God, we're going to be talking about the majesty of that shot and much, much more when we discuss Punisher Warzone next week.

Until then, I've been Andrew Jupin. Steven Zeta. Eric Sisker, Chris Gavin. Take it easy. Thank you. So, Thank you.