We Hate Movies - S15 Ep794: The Judge

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

“This movie takes its time, like an old man getting into a bathtub.” - Eric On this week’s episode, this one’s a long time coming as Chris Cabin gets his wish and we chat about David Dobkin���s The Judge! Was a comedy director right for this project? Was this script right for this project? How great is Vincent D’Onofrio in literally anything, including this? What’s with that lame waterfall back drop at the diner? And couldn’t we have skipped that bathroom scene? PLUS: Look out for The Judge 2: The Appeal! The Judge stars Robert Downey Jr., Robert Duvall, Vera Farmiga, Billy Bob Thornton, Vincent D’Onofrio, Jeremy Strong, Dax Shepard, Ken Howard, Emma Tremblay, Balthazar Getty, David Krumholtz, Grace Zabriskie, Denis O’Hare, and Leighton Meester as Carla; directed by David Dobkin. This episode is brought to you in part by Rocket Money! Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney dot com slash WHM today. And also in part by Huel! New customers visit Huel.com SLASH WHM today and use our code WHM to get 15% off your first order plus a Free Gift! Tickets are on sale now for our three-night residency during the Oxford Comedy Festival! We’ll be doing six shows over three nights from July 18 through 20, doing shows like WHM, W❤️M, The Nexus, The Gleep Glossary, and Animation Damnation! Tickets are going fast, so friends over there, snag your tix!  Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

this week on the program we discuss a movie where one of the actors may be the only actor in Academy Award history to be nominated for a role in where he shat himself on screen it's the judge i'm andrewman appropriate uncle stephen sadak eric cisca oh i'm sorry god sorry i'm pissing on you sorry everybody a quick chris cabin had hi there that's how we start movies that's how we start podcasts and we hate movies Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning into the fine program, as always. That's right. This week we are talking about David Dobkins' 2014 head-scratching family drama, The Judge. And we should say this one is brought to you by Chris Cabin, the Game King. Hello there, everyone.

Welcome to hell. Let's set the stage, set the table, put the plates down, get the fork out. So you won the VHS trailer game, and you were given the chance to do. And we love movies. And you said, screw that. We're doing the judge. No, no, no. You got to pick a we love movies.

You said we're doing this instead. No, no, no. Because we love movies at this point. You know what? I like it that it's a group thing. I like it that we are talking about. I didn't think of something right off the bed that was like, what's something that I love to, you know,

give to the guys and have them play around with her. You love this? No. Well, that's what I was first thinking. I was like, well, that doesn't really make sense. But I was like, ooh, the judge. Because I have, this movie has been sitting with me since I originally saw it. And we keep telling you, no, we're not doing it.

And I was like, nope, we're going to do it because this thing has like been a mind virus for me. Since I originally saw it and had to review it. You reviewed it. I had to review it. Screener or you had to go to a screen room? Oh, I went to the movies to see this fucking thing. Dude, in public. I was, me and Cameron Ripley weren't even close at the time.

Right. So did the crowd go wild at the, uh, it was a dead. I mean, there was a couple of like, what? The elderly. Yeah, the grannies are in there. A couple of them, but I think both of them fell asleep, if I'm going to be honest with you there. Is that right? It's a long movie.

It is a very long movie. I'm so glad that you used your veto proof majority, majority to push this through. Because it's one of those movies that I'm like, does everybody know this exists? Yeah, for sure. Like Robert Downey Jr. to use your powers as Iron Man to push something into

the spotlight, I now have this as evidence and do little. Yeah. And that's about it. Sure. Because this was like, oh, thank God. Downey's doing movies again. He's hanging up the cape and he's not even Sherlock Holmes and this one. It's a real drama. Oh, wait.

Yeah. My only run in with this movie was when it played the Toronto Film Festival. And, you know, every Toronto, there's, like, one or two, like, big studio things that you just ignore because they're coming out, like, in a couple weeks anyway. And this was, you know, one of those cases. And I just remember it was like, oh, and then there's this David Dobkin movie. And I was like, David Dobkin, the wedding crashes guy. What's this?

I was like, oh, dude, you're going to see the judge? And I, like, looked at what it was about. I looked at my boss. And I was like, no, I'm not. I'm not going to see the judge. A friend of this show, Josh Lewis has a funny story because that was, not all he was at Toronto. It was like a centerpiece premiere. It was the first time

I was going to be shown. That's what they do with the big studio pictures. And like Josh was telling me, he's like, and you just heard everybody's there to like, it's Iron Man, fuck it. It's like he's making like a John Christian movie or something. And like, it was just dead silence. No rush of applause that shit. I buy it. The next time

someone's like, you know what, whatever happened to the legal thriller. I'll be like, you know what the judge happened in the legal trailer. But no, this is objection, Your Honor. It's not exactly a courtroom drama. It's more of a comedy dromedies. Yes, it's more in the family dromedy realm or whatever. But I will say, Steve, to your point, I mean, yeah, sure, maybe for the last 10 years, but a certain

Mr. Eastwood made a really excellent fucking movie last year. That's a courtroom. Objection. That movie is very good. Disagreing. I abstain. I didn't watch it yet. Had it gone to a theater near me, I probably would have. Well, yeah, that was a big issue. I also loved your number two. And the fact that this is like, I forgot a car accident. And I'm like, weird a little weird

but also like occasionally we do get them like dark waters dark water's great really really good movie see that's one that didn't hit for me but I will tell you the reason why was that water wasn't that dark

it was one of those like I had to go to a screening to watch it to see if I wanted to program it in and the whole time I was like this ain't gonna make money and it didn't and when that would happen to me it was really hard for me to separate my brain in two

to like will this make money and if it does it is it still a good movie? And, like, that was a hurdle. And that was one of those movies that I need to go back to because also I fucking love Todd Haynes. Yeah, sure. What am I doing?

I love Ruffalo. I love paperwork movies. Gorgeous. But at that time, I was like, you're gonna make a guy. Yeah, well, I mean, occasionally we get them. And, like, I was thinking, hey, if this is what Downey, like, whenever, I would love to get a dispatch from the parallel universe where they

got the Downey Jr. Inherent Vice. I would love to see that. Sure. What we got was great, so I'm not, I'm not complaining. Excellent movie. But, like, that. We never got something like that. And that was what I was always expecting from him, and we never got it.

And the weird thing, and this is actually going to bring us a perfect place to start, is Oppenheimer. Sure. You're right. Because that was the one out of the shadows, right? And what's great about that movie, aside from literally everything, is that Downey's character Straws is the exact opposite of everything Downey has done in the last 20 years. He's acting. He disappears into the role. He's not a hero in that part.

Oh, yeah. He's not a cerebic. He's not bebop and scat. He's the villain. Yes. He's not in control either. That's a Nolan movie. He's petty.

Praising him as a villain there, he's not going to replicate that with Doomsdale. Oh, no. Certainly not. Definitely not. Because that's the thing. But I also feel like only Nolan in the last 20-some-odd years. I don't even know, like a guide to recognizing your saints maybe, like that got a real like. Oh, right. I forgot about that movie.

Yeah, I remember liking it. So it's like B-I and. AI, right, before Iron Man and after Iron Man. And the one that I can't place right now, where is Kiss Kiss Bang Bang? It's before Iron. That's kind of the got him, Iron Man. Right 2006, I want to say. That's 2006, and I think Iron Man's 2008.

Yes. But to the point of how he is in this movie, and it's referenced on the Wikipedia, I think also on the IMDB trivia, which is just one of the same garbage piece of the internet, but they mentioned something about how David Dobkin and R.D.J. were like, oh yeah, at the beginning of this movie, he needs to walk and talk like Tony Stark

so everybody can see his transformation and know a good guy and I was like no because every time he does these movies where he's just Tony Starking around I see what he's saying it's like you know slick city lawyer that's how he's like an asshole and then he just goes back to

the humble country beginnings and his fucking heart grows bigger or whatever but the problem is he's slick in a way that he's too familiar to Iron Man I think there's a way that you can do it where it's not like well there's iron man. Because again, the guy can act. You know what I mean? He's a great actor, but like, it's just one of these things where like it's so easy for him to flow, because it's so close to his just, probably not him like, you know, if you met him on the street, but his persona, you know what he is this thing. His public thing. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say to get two nice things out of the way about this movie. And while I don't think our DJ is terrible in this movie, it's just kind of whatever. But two people that I think are really good in this movie are Vera Farmiga and Vincent Donofrio. Yes. Neither has much to do at all. But when they're on screen, I'm like, now here's something I could.

watch. This is something. Let me give a compliment, too, while we're dishing them out. Right as well. I think the costumes are very realistic. I felt like I was on Earth. You know what? When looking at them, yes. When I heard them speak, I felt like I was on another. That's when I

felt like I was on Pluto. So we start like most, but this is the thing. This thing happened, like many things in this movie, this thing happens and it should be the entire movie. There should be HR meetings immediately afterwards. A man pissing on another man is a 90 minute

in a blend room. To start your movie. Is it a 90 minute movie or a 7 minute movie on Red Tove? There's two different ways to do it. One of the two. Yes. But you can't have something like this happen and then that story never leaves the bathroom. We start this movie and it is an Oppenheimer, a pre-Openheimer pre-Reunion I guess

was a pre-union. A pre-union, yes. Do you think they talked about the judge on the set of Oppenheimer? I remember we fucking did down. Jesus Christ. When you pissed on me and the judge? Yeah, I'm sorry about all that. I'm really, I am. And so, yes, it is R.D.J. and David Crumholds, the great Dave Crumholds, uh, and their lawyers on break in a restroom and they're talking about their case. And R.D.J. just turns like, like the alpha wolf this character is just fucking literally takes his juicy cock and pisses all over this dude.

A cinematic peep-foppy cock. Yes. You know, this is a non-hard dick, I presumeably. Well, that's, that's the thing is you don't know. You might just be hard all the time, Eric. But also, it starts with this, like, sad. Happy Zepruder film, because it's Jeremy Strong's character is, I don't know what his character. Dale.

Dale is like always filming on a Super 8 camera. So there's this like, oh, the Super 8. Oh, the world. Welcome to the judge. I'm peeing on you. I'm pissing on my fucking enemies.

Don't you remember baseball and pissing on your colleague? Don't you remember all those nice things about America? By the way, I mean, we need one less brother in this movie. That'll make this a little bit quicker and easier.

Yeah. I mean, just in general, the Dale stuff it's one of the many things that's like maybe there's five different drafts that Dale was a real character and maybe because Jeremy Strong did his thing he he met

with autistic people he he was apparently in character the whole time of course he was I bet that was not annoying at all dude you're like ninth build could you just stop for five minutes seriously but I mean maybe it's a thing where like there's a draft or even a version of this movie where like

and then there's a big emotional scene with Dale There isn't. No. At the last, like, after he breaks his fucking projector, you don't even, he doesn't even fix it. It's not even like, no. And you know what, Dale, just because you're such a good brother in me, I'm, I bought you this brand new projector or whatever. Nothing.

Fuck that kid. Exactly. Also, though, you can't have three brothers and a shithead father in a hometown story and have the movie not be directed by Edward Burns. The whole time I was like, this feels like a less good, bad Edward Burns movie. You don't, I mean, if you read this. this script, I mean, at least for me, I would read this and be like, oh, well, Fred Clause.

That's the match right here. That's where we go for this. Yeah, Dave Dobkin, director of previous episodes, Fred Clause. There's another one that he did. Oh, RIPD was also. Wedding Crashers, Shanghai Knights, Clay Pigeons, which is fine. Boy. But then most

recently ish that Eurovision song contest. Oh, that story of ice and fire, or whatever the fuck with Bill Farrow. No, thank you. I mean, there were funny bits, But generally, no thing. Overall, it just didn't really feel like a movie. But he pisses on the prosecutor, and it's your classic, I'm a defense attorney, therefore I'm evil.

And it's like, you defend people you know are guilty. It's like, that's how the justice system has to work. You understand that, right? It has to work. No, no, no, no. Those people should. I'll always love that because it's like other people who also have law degrees being like, shouldn't we just take these people out back and shoot them?

But yeah, Crumholtz is saying, like, you're defending this guy who embezzled 140, million dollars. It kind of sounds like a job for Luigi, honestly. It sounds like, you know. It was an insurance thing. Yeah, absolutely sounds like all the people you you fucked over and blah. And again, like, but everyone, I'm sorry, literally everyone, legal, alien

or otherwise is entitled to a fucking defense in this country. Well, not anymore. No, I mean, oh, look at the clock. Nope. I don't think so. Not anymore. So we're in court and our DJ gets a phone call and it seems to be kind of serious. Yes, the judge for a

continuance and it's like crumholt's being like are you fucking kidding me this better be fucking good blah blah blah and then it's just right you step right in it because it's like well i just got a phone call that my mother dies i do like he's also like what is the first time your mother died also you just fucking pissed on me dude i don't care i would i would kill your mother you pissed on me yeah i need to see mark duplas is his lawyer immediately coming in and being like so did did he look you in the eye when you pissed on you he tells the judge like at the end he's like he paid on me would that be uh i don't know none of us are lawyers.

It's got to be against the law to piss on somebody. Is that assault? Is that criminal mischiefs funny? That's a sexual assault. Yeah. You take your dick out. It's sex stuff. No matter what you do with it,

I don't give you defecating, whatever. Well, yeah, the pissing in public stuff. Isn't that that genuinely like gets you on a list in certain states? Probably. Yeah. The non-fund states. So we get a little bit of R.D.J's insane fucking house here,

which is in Massachusetts where all of this movie was film, to which I say, why not just said it in Massachusetts? Who gives a shit? Because nobody knows what Indiana is. No one has any idea how those people say. I was going to say it's flatter than this, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're not sounding like Vincent DiNafrio if you're from

Indiana. Right. It's just so bizarre. Nobody knows. And everyone's doing their own different accent, whatever. Everyone's just talking to hill folk that are around. Yeah, come on. It's just more working class than Massachusetts. Hey, you know this. It's set in America. So everyone can just do America stuff. You do

that America stuff? I'll do this America stuff. So we sort of get a little hint of what his relationship is with his father here because he's got this little dirter and she's like, oh, I thought you said Grandpa Palmer was dead. And he's like, no, no, no. I said he's dead to me. We also don't need the daughter character. She comes

to fucking nothing, really. She comes and does what I'm on ice cream. I'm sorry, Eric. She proves that he's a human. Yeah. That's, that's, and we need that constantly. I guess we just don't need any of my note. Are there two daughter characters? One daughter is getting divorced from him. Oh no, she's just incredibly young.

Like 17 years. I was like, I'm divorcing you. 17. Stop. She's in her 40s. But yes, he also, unsurprisingly, this dude's getting divorced. Right. He does mention that his wife has the ass of a high school volleyball player. Yeah, when he's like, after he pisses on crumbulls, he's like, how do you see

about a great Helen Park mentioned with a wife with a, uh, uh, uh, Ask a high school volleyball player. What about you? And in a live mother and father. He's currently alive of her mother and father. And he's just lying to this guy because his wife wants nothing to do with this. And she played Hide the Pickle with Josh from Facebook. Yes.

Oh, yeah. From Facebook. Facebook friend. It would you make me laugh at me poked by my Facebook friend. Yeah, that's unfortunate. Yeah. Man, this is another world this movie takes place. Yes.

I mean, now if you fuck somebody from Facebook, you're literally fucking your aunt. He's got a weird line here to her on the way out, and it sort of like made, it makes you realize, like, the script that you're dealing with here, because she's like, can I do anything for you, blah, blah, blah, your mom died or whatever? And he's just like, what are the fucking hydrangeas? Yeah. And he heals out. And I was like, oh, we're using, okay. All right. It's at least an R-rated script, right?

We got that going for us. By the daughter here, played by Emma Trombly of the Tromblay clan. Oh, really? Who? Emma Trombly of Jacob Tromblay fame. Tremblay or Trombly? I say Trombly. Well, there's an E there, so it's Tremblay. I've never said it out loud before, I don't think. Well, what about an entendre?

I'm pretty sure that's not how you're saying that name. Oh, I didn't know that, though. That's interesting. Has she done anything else? I don't think so. One of those book, what's that, book of Jeff, what's that movie that kid's in? Or it's like, here's instructions how to kill my teacher. What's that fucking movie? What the fuck is that movie?

He's in a column book of Henry? Book of Henry. of Henry, yes. I've not had the pleasure. People request it all the time. Insane. Like, truly, about on this level, insane movie. We got to, there's a couple of these in this movie, and it sucks because this movie is photographed by Yonush Kaminsky.

Yeah. Which is unfortunate, because there's so much bad CGI composite shit in this movie, including, like, he is driving. The car commercial. Yes. It's a car commercial where we're doing this really garbage. First of all, like, the second it cuts to him driving the car, you're like, he ain't driving that car. And it's all so we can. into this bullshit fake.

The camera's coming out of the car and flying up into the sky by a Kia. The new Ford Granger. When your mother dies and you've got to go back to home and you want a big dick everybody. You clean up your father's shit. You're going to love the Kia blowout.

The storage capacity for diarrhea in the back. You'll be able to put so many things you bought at Costco of adult diapers in the back of this car. If you shit in here, it won't smell. I swear. You're a real man. You piss on your enemies. You drive the Ford Greenger.

You eat raw meat for no reason. So we are in Carlinville, Indiana, to which he is disgusted immediately with this line that he barely spits out. Fishing, nothing changes. And it's just, it is literally, thank you, it is literally the most innocent thing. Norman Rockwell

shit you've ever seen just like two boys getting ready to go on a fishing trip with their dad and this dude's throwing up. But you know that happens everywhere, right? Yes. Throwing up. Yes, but also in New York City. People go fishing even in New York. Literally, it happens.

God damn it. He's just so, and I get it. It's like, here's kids with a good relationship with their father, but it's just so fucking funny. How grinch like he is about this. Someone's waving at him and you think he like just started like a blood oath against him. Like, I'm going to kill you one day. We go right to the funeral parlor.

Oh, mama in a coffin. He's a big old mama in a coffin. Who the hell is this coffin lady? Do they get anyone good to play this? It's the same lady from the home movies, so they at least did that. Featured extra, I guess. Pretty much. And we meet Jeremy Strong, who again, doing a lot in this movie.

Doing a lot. And I'll tell you, one thing you could do less, filming at the funeral parlor. Dude, I know some people it's a cultural thing and whatnot, but photography and videography during funeral processions where it's open casket shit, we're taking pictures with pea paw. Like, it's weird, man. It's weird. Once you start playing with the dead, which is that, that's what I consider. Once you start taking photos of them, posing them, totally.

But you're drinking his hand, a cigar in his mouth. That is too much. Once the internet came around, you should stop doing stuff like that. Because you know what? I get it. That was for entertainment. There was not a lot to do before the internet was around. So yeah, you play with the corpse a little bit.

You take a picture with the corpse. I know you understand these things and I get that you're doing them. But now that we have it, we got to stop. It's also just like a, you're not looking at those. Like, what are you doing with them? The thing is he's autistic. taking like that's the idea is like he doesn't know when people are sad around him so he's taking photos and blah blah blah blah like it's just another day with his camera I get it

but it's not for this movie it's not at all you for this movie you got to tell that kid to leave the camera outside I really don't need to see this unless the movie is about that guy that doesn't get to happen in this movie and I guess they're Catholic because they're doing the thing the Catholics do he's talking about what saint he picked for the mass card because I don't know if you guys know this in Catholic circles you get a baseball card when you die. The stats. I got a whole deck at my house.

Oh, really? Yeah, dude, I'm collecting them. Dude, yeah, you leveled up to a level four mage with all the cards you have. It's not exactly a rookie card. It's the exact opposite. Yeah, yeah, the mask cards, man. It's like your name's on it.

You usually pick a saint. Sometimes there's, you get the option with or without a photograph attached, and then you've got to figure out from there. Like, if it's an older person, you know, I mean, you hope it's a, older person. You don't want younger people. The long-timers club with that work? Well, you know, I'm saying like for the photo, it's like, is it the

photo of them old is the photo of them? What would you prefer, you know, would you like to see the current state of them or would you like to see the, or me and my coolest? Or maybe both to show like how nasty it's got. Oh, before and after. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. People get nasty when they get old. Does this guy grows? Does this, this man have a picture of himself with the firebird? If so, that's the one that's going on. Absolutely. The ones I have no photos.

Yeah. No people photos. It's the move. He does, he gives the, like, I chose mom. And he gets a little Dustin Hoffmane here when he goes, uh, he says, like, I got to feed the birds or something. There's one line where he's like, I got to feed the birds. And I'm like, ah, watch it with that.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's kind of sad. He's like, her heart kind of just turned off. Yeah. I found her by the hydrange. It's a very sensitive, nuanced performance. It is because he's a good actor, but I'm like, I'm dealing with the judge here, man. I don't have time for this.

I just want to see him do something different. I don't want this character. I don't like this. Exactly. Seeing this. For sure. Yeah. It's not great.

You get a sense of he's not very close with his brothers because in comes DeNafrio asks about the wife. He refuses to tell him about the divorce proceedings. And he's like, there's no story. She's just, it's home. But he says nothing about like the daughter had school and he's like, it's summertime. What are you talking about? They kind of just leave it at that is the idea.

Well, because we'll find out later. There's a reason there a little apart. Art. But yeah, I like you, I think Vincent DiNafrio is one of the reasons this. If there was a reason to give a plus on this. He's one of our greatest living actors. See Daredevil Borning. This is another rural characteristic of my brother could have been a pro baseball player. If you live in the country, your brother could have been a pro baseball. We had a movie not too long ago we did on the show, Signs. Exact same thing. In the inner city, it's basketball. Exactly. That's right. I do think. It's weird, though, like Duvall, like the, the, I'm always interested in family casting. I think Duval makes a good father for Donofrio looks like. Sure. Yeah. Downy and Duval and Donofrio's brothers I don't buy, but Downey and Strong as brothers, I do buy.

It's very odd that way. Yeah. I think if you saw more of whatever the mother was supposed to do, maybe that would help color that a little bit. Which one did you not buy is the sibling here? DeNafrio and Downey. Right. Well, Downey maybe his mom got slammed Oh, oh, shit.

Maybe Blackwell put a baby in her. Oh, that's why they're so bad. Oh, Mr. Blackwell. That rotten Blackwell did it again. That's a Blackwell boy. Secret Blackwell boy. I wish I could have done it to his father. If you didn't watch the movie, folks, this, the Blackwells are the evil people in this.

The McCoy's. It's a trash family, don't worry about it. And, of course, you got to get fucking poor. I mean, like, good for him for getting a check. But, oh, we need somebody. who's like kind of trashy but also could do grief and kind of be unlikable. Grace Zabrewski's

fault is ringing. Those how to mourn over a dead child on camera. Yeah, exactly. Screen to people in an active street. Yep. So we go to the courthouse. RDJ sort of slinks in goes up to the balcony to witness the judge. Here he is

Mr. Robert Duvall and as Joseph Palmer here. And it's a child support case and he's just one of those judges, dude, like personal opinion is going right into what this dude saying. Once you go into this court, the law does not exist. It is Robert Duvall's fantasy land. Yep, exactly.

Well, that's a lot of these fucking small town judges. It's very Judge Judy-esque, actually. And he's like ordering it. And you go to that mechanic shop and you tell him you want to talk to, no, not that one, not the guy with that name. The father who's not the dumb piece. This is like stenographer writing this up. Talk to the one that's not the dumb. piece of shit son. You don't have money

for alimony. Let me just let me get this. You don't have money for alimony, but you do have money for a brand new truck. Is that correct? Well, yeah, I run a landscaping work and I've had that other truck for like 25 years. And how are you? You're going to give that over to your wife

now. Fuck you. It's a lease. Like, every car is a goddamn lease at this point. Who's buying a car with cash? What is you, a drug dealer? Yeah. Um, well, you can buy a car. Well, leasing a Loan. Leasing a car and financing a car

and two different things. Anyway, so yeah, it's like you're going to sell your truck or you're going to sign the papers over to her. You're going to go, little Missy, down to the auto shop. And this is where he's like, you're going to ask for Craig. Not little Craig, the idiot's son,

big Craig, the father, and tell him to the judge sent you and you're going to get a deal. This is the sentence. This is literally what he's doing. This whole giant paragraph about this dumb kid at the auto shop. And just a general thing. God, don't you hate sons.

Aren't they just the bane of existence? Fucking son. You know, sons, when you got one that thinks they're better than everyone who goes off to the big city, you got that dim wits, so we all got one. And then of course, you got the failed baseball star. Oh, he could have been everything. I wanted that boy

to succeed. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, don't we all hate failed baseball sons? God, I hate, you know, I hate women. I want that to be clear, but also, just the kids, they just all suck. and he cannot help himself right here too after he helps this woman with the alimony

situation he's like, by the way whore, how do you think you got like that? Because this woman is pregnant and he just does this, he doesn't call her a whore but he just goes and by the way, ma'am, how do you think this happens? And he like touches his belly and this woman is just like, well I don't know, man, we were married at one point

I'm knocked up and now we're getting fucking divorced. What do you want from? And everyone's like laughing at the court with popcorn. Oh, just laughing at this white trash couple. I guess he's allowed to be judgmental. He's the job. I guess, yeah. No, it's funny, we never even talk about the fucking mother that just died. No, never, ever.

I don't know anything about her other than she was a woman at one, and now she's meat or dog food or whatever she is. Dog food. All women characters in this movie, fuck them. It's essentially the opinion. I mean, they try with Verrafermiga a little bit, but the thing they reveal about, oh, that. Yeah, it gets a little sidetrack.

Not great. So we have the wake. No big important part. Yeah. He's like, yeah, he's like, B. Bob and it's cat. Big Craig, little Craig, and then he's like, uh, and you there. It's the bailiff, the black bailiff. Oh, sure, I forgot about this.

And he cannot know the guy's name. And, like, Robert Dyer Jr., is like, wait a second. He can't regal. He can't recall. Yes, it's Gus. Say, Gus, say it, you fucking old piece of shit. He was her bailiff for over 20 years. Yes.

So that's, like, the first indication of, uh-oh, something might not be so right with the judge. But yeah, we do go to the wake. And, man, this is, this is bad right here. This is Duval shaking hands with all the people's, you know, saying they're sorry, fucking giving a hug to the sons, except Robert Denny Jr., who he just totally, dude, snubbed

at my mother's wake by my own father. Good God, that's tough. Rocks. The weird thing about this movie. That's a fucking baller move by the judge. I'm not going to lie. Why does he stay at the house? Like, this is a hotel guy. Yeah, this is a hotel guy.

You're a adult. They're using it as a storage room. Is there a hotel in Carlinville? That's fair. It's like one street. There's guys. There's got to be a motor lodge down the road. There's something. There's always something.

It might not be good, but there's, yeah, go sleep at the warehouse. Exactly. But anything has to be better than sleeping in your own room that your father has turned into a garbage room. Oh, shit, I don't want my house publicly displayed. Put it up there. It's, the whole movie, I was like, go to the hotel. My parents' house, my room is now the garbage room. It's very similar.

See, my parents have moved so many times. They're like three houses removed from the last time I even lived with it. Really. I don't have to worry about no old bedroom anymore. That's nice. I mean, they've never moved since I was, you know, since we moved to New York. Well, you'll get a chance when you, uh, when you defend your mother in court, you'll have a, you'll have a chance to bring that all out so that you can do your work in that. There's a, well, I noticed when she forgot Gus's name. Like, what the fuck? There's a scene. It's almost, it's like a flood of the concords bit almost because it's like, it's like, it's, they're like, it's, they're like, it's, they're like, uh, it's, the three brothers are in a room and like, like, they're kind of talking about like, like, a dad.

Parking. Yeah. the parking or whatever. Oh, because Robert Duvall is like, any dude who doesn't back into a driveway just loves making his life harder from, when you shut the fuck up. This is what there is to talk about in Indiana,

according to the movie. Parking. Parking is it. They're gibbering, and then like, even, I think, what you would call it? They're in the living room or whatever. And, uh, what do you call it there? Donnie is like, oh, did Donofrey? It's like, so do your kids like baseball? He's like, oh, you mean my son? One does

plays a blatz cleanup and the other one doesn't even know what a baseball is and then like three seconds later they pan over to his wife and two sons in the dining room eating dinner and I'm like they never establish who these characters are ever and the second you started

talking about the wife not talking about yes that is a flight of the concords bit a whole like we had this whole loud conversation and the camera moved six inches to the right and the people are right there and none of like the one boy has a line sort of towards

end of the movie. One son is completely jettisoned from the film entirely. And the wife doesn't even say anything beyond stuff that could just be a dub. Like you never see her speak on camera. It's a lot of like, hey, oh, that's fun. Yes, you don't know her name. It's not like, this is my wife Belinda. You know what I mean? Like, oh, hey

Belinda, how's it going? It's your brother's wife. You know who she is. But you need to have, you have to know that Vincent Donofrio is straight because you don't want him to be to have a Red Bull Seaman breath. Oh, my. Things like that. You don't really you don't want to do stuff like that or to oh is he both ways Billy

is that his name oh my god there's some great insults in this movie we'll get to Red Bull Seaman Breath my favorite it's ultimate smegma I love it Red Bull Seamin Breath is the second punch of an amazing one two punch insult situation so we go to the Flying Deer

Diner which I guess reindeer's copywritteners sure but this is this is the whole like well nobody told me about breakfast And Donofrio's got to be, and this was something, it just made, it made the hair in the back of my neck stand up where DeNafrio goes, well, we've eaten here every Saturday morning for 35 years. And I was like, oh, like, I just, I love my family,

but I cannot imagine doing that for over three decades. Every fucking week you're expected at this diner. Or also like, how about a new restaurant? Yes. Something that make, I don't know, drive to Ogdenberg. I don't even care about that. But for that to, like, for that to be your. reasoning for not telling him

we're going to breakfast like yes yes things have changed because your brother came into town for your mother's funeral like ask him like you just normal for five seconds they just ask him hey we're going to fucking breakfast exactly like hey man you haven't lived here for decades

so you definitely forgot but we're going to go to the diner and get breakfast and like also for Dinoffreous character like move to Indianapolis or something you know what I mean it's right there like you don't have to go so far you want to stay close to your family that's fine Dude, but you're a big tire so-and-so? Go to Indianapolis. Are you kidding me?

He'll be fucking cleaning up. They love tires over there. Might be too much competition in Tire City. I don't know. Talk to Ray Zelensky. He might get you in a good place. You think you could do tires in Indy? I don't think so.

Get your ass back to Carlinville, loser. Yeah, maybe that happened. Honestly, Vincent and Arroyo failed tire salesman is something I'd rather watch to this movie. But this is where we meet Sam played by the great. Vera Farmiga and it is actually interesting because while it's not a great relationship her and R.D.J. have dated

before and they seem like she's cool. It's not one of those like well look what fucking piece of shit just came in. It's the opposite. She's going to suck his cock at this fucking lunch counter. Absolutely. So sorry about your mother. Mwob. Womp. It does look like R.J. Sure. Oh, totally. Bella. Absolutely.

Seamin breath. Duval does some good stuff at this funeral. We don't get Like, you know, we're not going to church. We don't get the funeral at all. It's the end of the funeral. You get a good Duval, like, I'll be here tomorrow and every day after it. Like, there's good, when he's not shitting himself and being a jerk in this movie, there is stuff to like about this performance.

The weird thing about it is, it's just such a, it's a double for Robert Duval. It's not a home run. It's not a triple. He's on base for sure. And it's totally fine. But the fact that he got nominated for this is so bizarre. I think it's got to be, if you're getting Oscar nominations, dude, it's got to be at least a triple. I'm sorry.

Exactly. But he got nominated. because I bet they were like, oh, did you see him in them? Yeah, no, I think that was real. I think he's actually losing his, he's going to die soon, he's dying. It was a total thanks for the memories nomination. Well, I mean, we, you know, I like to have some, you know, we like to have improv on set, of course, and we like to bring in the real world. So we did that.

We had Robert Schitt himself. We had him do that because we thought that would be, you know, you just want something that breaks through, you know, and everything is so planned. I'm going to need refined beads at the craft services table. Look, I'm yes-ending. I'm also pissing my pants. Yes-ending. More beans than that. Got a big seat coming up after lunch.

More? So, yeah, there's some, after the funeral, there's some sort of kerfuffle at the house, and our DJ is like, I'll see you never, I'm going to get out of here, and DiNaphn's no, we're going out for a drink. You know, come on, it was mom's funeral. This is what he goes to go for eggs. This is where he goes for eggs, which is very important, yes. I'm going for eggs.

It's fucking four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, we need eggs. By now, Robert Donnie Jr. said he forgot Gus's name. I think he's drinking again. Donofield couldn't imagine it. Dad's been sober for 28 years. Just no way. So they're at this bar, and then this is great because this is...

I love this bar. My loveless judge. Oh, I was going to say, he's crash test dummies. Did they do that one? That's Toby Keith. No, it's ooh. Oh, it's an ooh and not, pardon me. Thank you.

Pardon me. Apologies to the late Toby Keith. He's dead? Oh, wow, right. I forgot about that. Have a drink. Ooh, I love hell. I love this coffin.

But this is great because you get a sense of how the rest of the town also feels about this judge. Because they're all like, look who it is, the judge's boys. Your father's a piece of shit. Well, yeah, you sent me to fucking jail, man. Well, first off, here, enter Leighton Meester, and, Leighton Meester's wet ass And the camera's like Bown pout bount bough down

Look at that ass Here she goes I believe it's supposed to be an RDDA point of view But at the same time it's like Why? It's wild Well you know what that is because I think they realize Like Jesus Christ for like 25 minutes

In this movie we're already losing people We know it. We gotta get a shot of a wet ass In here wake everybody up Look at that ass I asked Vera she said she was not up for Wet ass vision Wet ass vision. But it is like an alarm clock going off, man.

You just cut to that and you're like, all right, back in the movie. It's got to be something like, you know, you're late mystery. Oh, cool, I'll get to be in a movie with Robert Dodd. Robert Duval, Jesus Christ, apocalypse now. All right, Leighton, we're going to spray you with this hose and you're going to walk into the bar. Okay, so it's kind of a funny scene. No, the camera's going to be lower than that. You're kind of playing a sexy baby.

That's sort of your character. Okay. I need more beans. That's later, Robert. No, no, I'm ready for the spray-down. But I just, because I am, I'm playing a character. Who is my father when, oh, actually, so the spray, it just, it goes up and down. We're going to do all spray, but could you tell me?

And also, you're going to sway your hips. We want those hips swaying back and forth when this ass comes in. God damn it. I said cold water. It's got to be colder than that. I want her shivering. Hard up them nips. Fire them up, dude.

Yeah, so, oh, what it is is these townies start messing with Jeremy Strong. Are these the Blackwell clan? Are they not the Blackwell clan? Are they not the black folks? No, they're just other people that hate this family in this town. One of several, it turns out. Okay. And then, like, R.D.J. uses some lawyer's superpowers here.

It's like, it's like, if Sherlock Holmes was also a lawyer, like he looks at these dudes and deduces them and it's like, let me guess, drunk driving, looking at you and looking at her, let me guess, domestic battery. Are you all right, honey? Like, he's doing all this shit. They did call Jeremy Strong a dimwit shutterbug R Word. They sure did. There was an R-word counter there.

and I couldn't recall this movie It's 2014. I forget, though, so the sequence of events is like, they come in and like, you know, we see her ass, it's great. And then they're drinking. Yeah. And this guy

says something to Deneffrey. He was like, oh, hey, Pete. And then he's like, you with that, blah, blah, blah. He gives the slur. And like, that doesn't get to Dinaffrey off the chair. What gets him off it? It's like something. Is it the mother or is it like just like? I think it's, I think they make some crack about your dead mother.

Oh, okay. That's what gets him off the case. He's like, all right. that's yeah because at first it's like you did win it blah blah blah oh here it comes and did not free it's like easy and i'm like all right well because they've been they've been slinging that for the last however many years he's used to that kind of harassment at the tavern i guess yeah they grew up together yeah so but this is where our dj goes to that couple and says bad skin muffin top to the woman or points to the man red bull seaman breath oh great hell yeah Taking them right down, dude. And, you know, the... It's a light misting of homophobia, you know, just a little bit. Our wet meister's so impressed by this.

Her wet meter. She says... No, Ms. Meester's got a wet keister. There you go. She says to him, R.D.J., she's like, oh, hey, Dershowitz. Which is like... Yeah, it's supposed to be positive. Yeah, it's supposed to be positive.

Yeah, I was like, weird. Because it's 2014. Yeah, yeah, I guess. We didn't know about all of his Epstein trips, I guess. Yeah. Well, that's, yeah, Dershowitz, good job with the Klaus von Bulow trial, Dershaw is. Like, that's kind of what that is.

Yeah. It's a weird thing. Well, I mean, what are you going to call him? Johnny Cockrey? Yeah, it's all so bizarre. In the pantheon of famous lawyers to make this joke work. No, it's not funny. So she's like, I want to buy you a drink.

It's like, do, I think she says, like, do me because you're still good at reading people. It's like, well, you're clearly not in bread and you look better as you get wetter is one of the things he says. Good line, dude. to say because a little dual meaning there. Oh, definitely. Oh, right. And because of that amazing you want to piss on you? I've pissed on men before, but I could piss on a woman.

Because I'll be honest, before I did it to my colleague, I didn't know I liked it. And now I've just been feeling these things. Thank you, David Krumholz. It's a new world. It's just a new world to me. It's just like having sex with a lady. And he just keeps thinking of pissing on David Krumholz.

And Gilm's like, I like it. piss on me and he's like what's going on with me he has the best orgasm of his life this is amazing but yeah so I mean that him doing that whole deduction you know

look better as you get wetter whatever it cuts you this is a fucking hysterical shot because it cuts to them they're in like a phone booth or something just tongue kissing he's fucking feeling her up

the whole thing and the camera just kind of rolls back through the bar and it's just fucking Jeremy Strong eating disgusting bar naches while Dinafrio is like watching this go down. And apparently, does Dinafrio know this as his kid?

He does not. He doesn't. No, he doesn't. She never told him. That's the weirdest part of this movie, which is the, we find out later that Vera Formiga has had an affair with, uh, with, with Dinafrio right after he left, right after, uh, Downey left the town or whatever. And this is his dirder.

But he never knows because he doesn't ever tell him, which is fine. But if I, at the end of the movie, Downey, does find out A, for about half the movie, we're like he thinks it's his daughter, which is like even worse. Yeah, not just we think that he the character also is concerned about it. It's supposed to be a plot point. I would walk into

the sea. Like, full on, that is it. Here's my rocks. Yeah, we all saw, oh boy, we know what you're supposed to do when you find that out. Exactly. What is the judge really saying about these communities that even the people that think they're not in bred actually are? It's impossible. Everyone's

so close. Yeah. I can't avoid it happens well to you know be inbred you have to breathe oh yeah yeah so you're saying you should have finished the job i'm saying it's just a technicality we're judging okay so you're wait you're you're you're saying you're allowed to like rope your no i'm just saying it's not inbreeding what we're talking it's just it's a good old fashioned incest that's right okay all right well game of throat style yes that's fair now had he gotten a baby in her yes that's inbreeding that would be interesting that would be in i think we can make that happen happened perhaps here.

Well, in the judge two, electric boogaloo? No, there will be no follow-up to the judge. Yeah, exactly. There will be no appeal. The judge two opens on the baby, and the baby's like, kill me. Yes. Kill me.

The judge two would be called the appeal. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So, whatever, it's the next morning. They are looking outside. R.D.J. has hilariously convinced Donofield an opportunity to accident. back the car into the garage door so our DJ's going out to like pound the door back out

and fix it and he notices uh Duval's big souped up car that he has here is broken and it scratches all along the side of what the hell did he hit they're trying to figure it out or whatever and then yeah it's just a little bit of a dad comes out we're all yelling there's so much like fucking yell it's like it's sometimes this feels like it's it's always sunny in philadelphia just like kukophonis arguing with all the characters the new that Duval gives here is yeah you heard about his wife right she played hide the pickle with

somebody and then like that's what makes daddy go oh see it never again and he like runs away you tell your brothers you're getting divorced that's the thing is it's we've talked about this a bunch on all of our programs this is high school household yes all of a sudden you're back at like oh yeah

you think you're the number one jock in school while I found out that your divorced wife is fucking someone else My son And also You figured your niece last night Dump nuts Oh man

You cannot let him get that one You will never Ever hear the end of it You will in like 10 years Oh yeah sure yeah That's fair But so are you Big City hot shot comes in

And fingers his own niece Gross I mean That's what he does Does Johnny Cocker do that Huh? Does your hero Alan Dershowitz do that

Probably We're a simple town. We like, we caught into inbreeders, not incest. Yes, sir. So R.J.'s on the plane is about to leave. He gets a call from DeNafrio. You got to come back. They found a body, Hank.

This is what is said here. If I had seen him in her, Jack. My niece? No. Oh, thank God. But yeah, this is, he goes to the police station. This is where he calls out the one guy who's like, yeah, well, we found this body. Your father is blah, blah, blah.

He's like, oh, look, it's both ways Bobby. Just calling this dude out for going by one night. And then Balthazar Getty is here. You, dude, I did not. Because he gets like fucking two lines in this movie. And then at the end, I'm watching the credits. I'm like, where the fuck was Balthazar Getty? Well, because he's an antagonist.

And then the movie, like, many things. This movie doesn't have object permanence. If a character is not in the scene, they forget about him entirely. Like Balthus Argettty's like, he's like the big antagonist. You're like, ooh, is he crooked? Maybe he's trying to frame the judge or something. and he's gone and then in the middle of the movie he turns into Bill Pullman which is super bizarre

like it was just an odd choice could he use some saxophone playing in this movie honestly. This movie constantly sets things up and forgets them like this whole like is he drinking again? What kind of alcohol keeps a stocked liquor cabinet and then we just never talk about the alcohol consumption

again? I'm sorry Eric we absolutely do and it's no big deal so we've confirmed that he's drinking again? They're outside he's got like a a beautiful old bottle of Evan William. I bought this bottle of Evan Williams

in 1979. It doesn't get better and it's still just Evan Williams. You're drinking. You're sipping garbage. You know, I just, this movie just begs not to be watched apparently. And it fades. I don't believe you at all, Eric. This movie fades from your memory the minute, if you don't take notes, I would, I like filled up half a notebook when I had to review this. Because I was just like, I'm not going to remember any of this shit the minute I'm out of here.

But yes, Forendix has found blood in the grill of the car. This victim, indeed, Mr. Mark Blackwell. And this is, Duval gets fucking arrested and booked right here. Grace Zabriski fucking spits on the car window, which is pretty great. She's just yelling in the street. Well, Doudny's trying to do what, you know, a lawyer would do. It's just like, don't talk to anybody. Duval's like, no, I'll just sort it out with these nice gentlemen.

He's like, don't talk to these fucking people. They're not your friends right now, blah, blah. Right, like telling the cops, like, how to arrest me, basically. Exactly. Whatever you do. not feed or pay Dax Shepard. Whatever you do, oh, fuck, what did you do?

We're never getting rid of him now. My jaw was on the floor. I was like, a 35 minutes in, and here comes Dax Shepard. Yeah, that's tough. On the ride back from the arraignment, they have to tell us the audience through Jeremy Strong's character,

like what the deal is here, and the reason why this is so suspicious is because this guy Mark Blackwell when he was a kid. got himself into Duval's courtroom because he was beaten up on his girlfriend. He shot at the house. Shot at the house. He got into a fight.

They shot at the house. He gave him 30 days. Kid took 30 days, got out, drowned the girl, like immediately after getting out. Duval then rejudged him again for that. The rejudginging. Yes. The take to put him away for 20 years. He has now come out and whoops, his fucking judge who sentenced him to jail has now run.

him down to the road. Like two or deep. He's been out for like four days or something like that. Yeah. But I did hear that he gave his car over to Nicholas Holt for a couple of days. And you know what? He's been going through some stuff too. And they get into some argument. And there are some real groaner shots in this movie. So like, do you get it shots? And this is one of them. They're in the middle of some cornfield because we're supposed to be in Indiana. Oh, Jesus. And car stops and Duvall's like, I'm going for a walk. And like he's like, he goes one. way and I'm oh could you believe it down he goes the other way and it's like this big expensive shot and the father and the son and the cats and the cradles are going two different ways baby that's deep

poor v right there it's right on the nose you might say poor vin is in the seat just could you get both back in the car could not be children that's just visual storytelling that is true that i was going to say the janis kuminski of it all the the one that drove me insane is very early on when he goes to when he sees his mother for the first time and then There's that blinding light shot that he gets half the way into because like he's getting the way of his own hope and salvation. It's not great. The thing that's funny about that when they get out of the car, R.D.J. does have a good

line here though where he's like, Dad, why are you going that way? The Indiana State Penitentiary is this way. Yes. Pretty good. But yeah, we do a little fucking Jeremy Strong showing these home movies. This is where we get Boni Bear just singing over this. and they're like, oh, boy. It's terrible.

You get, I mean, it's all the show that, like, the mom was who brought the love to this household. Wow, there she is, walking around. When I fingered my knees, I was not magnificent. Oh, Bonavere, just sounds like six ghosts trap in a mason jar. I touched her ass, and it was magnificent.

And my wrist hurts, it hurts, it hurts. And we ate not, chose not. So this is where he's like, all right, we're going to go see my lawyer. You're going to shut the fuck up. And my lawyer's going to do all the talking. Do you understand? And then this is Dax Shepard as dumb country lawyer.

C.P. Kennedy, calling dumb country attorney and lawyer. I mean, literally, call him Billy Bumpkin. Like, you can might as well, because, oh, my God, Billy Bob Thornton. Oh, Billy Bob in this movie. Billy Bob. Assassin. Or are just about, because they go to, oh, wait, they have the meeting. this movie has to be as long as possible

so we have to sit in Dax Shepard's office and piss about fucking law credentials and who went to the better school RDJ did I do like the joke of I mean because he's like selling furniture which is like he's not just a lawyer He's a furniture salesman the law office is upstairs in the attic It's a good you know credentials joke just because

his mom put books in front of it He's like I hate what she does that It's just that got me as well putting files in front of my diploma from this school. I read that this law school was a real law school in Indiana that functioned for like over a century. As of 2020 went out of business. Really?

Well. Closed up shop, I guess. Too many Dak Shepherds. I mean, that's the thing like, what a shitty advertisement for this school. Here's the terrible lawyer that vomits every day. That's fair. Yeah. Now it's replaced with the Trump University, I think. Yeah, I believe so. But yeah, Dak Shepard, I promise

I'm going to fight like a badger for you. It's very funny. and it was a great cut because I promise I'm going to fight like a badger for you it cuts to the first day of court and it cuts to Dax Shepherd vomiting outside Yes and we go inside I screamed the first time

And I screamed when I rewatched it When Billy Bob Thornton And the name of the character Yes Is Dwight Dickham Dickum Come on Why not call him Francis fuck him

Why not just say it? I mean come on Dude in the long history since Going back to the Three Stooges when they, you know, tangled with the law firm, do we cheat him and how? You know, it's just,

it's a lawyer joke. My favorite part about his character is the fact that he has this evil water cup. Yes, we're so focusing on that evil water cup. Thank you, Janus, focusing on this evil water cup. But it's that water cup,

it's flat and he could open it up. It's collapsible metal. Camping thing or something. It makes the noise when Wolverine's claws come out for some reason. Because he's the dude, because he is the legal assassin. He's the wolf. I mean, he's literally like Harvey Taitel.

I think it's a little bit of like, because Billy Bob, of course, he's playing like a big successful lawyer and everything like on the level of our DJ. It's kind of like a, you don't want to drink it from a cup that these hillbillies put out for me. I'm going to bring my own glass to this courtroom. Thank you very much. You think that pitcher's clean? Man, Billy Bob is it at three total tops here. But you know what? A Billy Bob three is still pretty good.

Sure, for sure. The man has presents. Like, you can't help but like watch him. You just wish it was an actual. character in this movie. Again, they just forget about him for hours at a time. Here's a thing. And I don't know if the movie tells you one way or the other, but I couldn't figure it out.

Are Billy Bob's character and our DJ's character is supposed to know each other professionally elsewhere? There's one scene where he's like, oh, I was, you'd probably remember me on a second chair on a such and such. And you got this murderer off. I'm just happy everyone's forgetting parts of this. I mean, dude, the other thing, I don't think we mention this to the audience.

It is close to two and a half hours long. It's like 221 or something. It's an epic. It's humongous. A buck 45 total tops. Basically, Shepherd blows the, they're like, he's like, Doudny's like, you don't want to go to trial. You want to be able to get this thing thrown out immediately.

Yeah, this is a hearing to see if they have enough to do a trial. Yes. Did we notice here, the judge? 30 Rock guy. Hell yeah. Ken Howard. Hank Cooper. Nice.

Love that guy. He's very funny. Also, from Michael Clayton as well. Oh, yes. Every time that guy's character interacted with Alec Baldwin's character on 30 Rock, it was comedy gold.

So it was very weird seeing him in this movie. I don't know that I've, you know, yeah, seen him in much else, but he's great here. But yeah, Dak Shepard totally fucks it up and it's like, yeah,

we're going to trial, definitely. I don't even know why we wasted everyone's time today. How can you confirm looking into each other's eyes? I like that. you idiot. Right. And basically now Downey steps in, right?

Pretty much because they're like the writing's sort of on the wall here or whatever. R.D.J. gets kicked out of the courtroom because he's trying to give notes to and then he like writes something out of a legal pad and throws it at him. Right. Excuse me. Are you co-counciled? Then we have to, because this movie

takes its time. It's like an old man trying to get into the bathtub. We're fumbling around the house again, you know, and he's just like doing the crossword puzzle with the judge and the judge is like, well, maybe you will be my lawyer. We have to do a little

little kid contract with crayons basically saying Do you like me? Yes or no. Exactly. And he slips it under the door and then he unpacks his bags again. I don't know why he packed again. Yes. Because he was going to go home.

But what? Your dance on the murder beat. The murder beef brought him back. At least stick around to see what happens. Well, they hate each other though. I know you did, well, yeah. But so R.D.J. starts asking Jeremy Strong about some stuff that he's mentioned here. And he's like, you know, you said something about dad playing chess with a doctor. Like, dad doesn't play chess, you know, and he hates doctors.

Like, what are you talking about? We learned that the judge has been doing secret chemo. He's got colon cancer. This is Dennis O'Hare also of Michael Clayton fame. Also, in a hit and run of Michael Clayton. Yeah, yeah. Are you the firms? would you lie about that you're the firm's fixer

or that you've any good at it? Oh, right, when they do go to the lake house, he's there as the lawyer, eventually. I have to show you guys because I was trying to remember his name and I was like Dennis O'Haron, I couldn't find him on the IMDB because this is his IMDB picture. Yeah, what's that burn face? It's like

too, this weird, like I guess it's American horror story, like true, it's like this two-faced character and I'm like, you got to Dennis, you got to get on the IMDB. That's terrible. Get that headshot on there. Maybe he thought it was real cool. Get the younger when you were like the militia leader in law and order.

That was great. That's good stuff. Yeah, I mean, he was like one of the hoity-toity vampires on True Blood for a while. But yeah, so anyway, R.D.J. goes on a bike ride after fighting with my father here. And then this is where we set it up. Oh, man. He wipes out. And he's just sort of laying on the side of the road.

And there is Vera Farmiga driving up. And then this is like Layton Meester's in the back seat. and it's like a reveal like he doesn't notice her at first when he gets in the car and it's like total deuce chill moment here but he puts on his old they say that his old Metallica t-shirt

this thing is pressed they bought it from Target yesterday yeah there's no way this thing survived all the way from that specific tour back in 87 doesn't look ratty there's no real holes anywhere I'm gonna object to you sir when you said that the costuming was good

the costume is bad that's true sir the customing is fucking distressed this fucking t-shirt I meant Billy Bob looked good in his suit. He does. Well, yeah, and he does the, I'm touching God thing with the fucking arms outstretched and no helmet. Please kill me now. Yeah, I'm going to close my eyes. And if a truck comes barreling down the road, so.

Finally. Because he's out of the city, you understand. And now in God's country, it's kissing him in the face. He says something. He just goes, like, old school. And then wipes out, like, immediately. And then, you know, now I'm going to meet my. not yet niece

we'll find out niece but we bear for Miga and Carla Leigham Neester's character Yes They pick them up She's like oh I can't believe You have that old shirt

By the way this is my niece She's in law school She's 20 years old And he's like Oh my God He starts doing some math Like fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

We get the jury selection scene here I kind of liked this This was some cool lawyery stuff Like you know Who do you want on your jury You want people who can follow instructions and no, you know, can we do what they're told or whatever, and R.DJ is like, no, you want

every fucking crackpot conspiracy theorist, wacko, blah, blah, blah. And then you see the selection thing, and what RDJ does, I think is very funny, is like, how many of you have bumper stickers on your car? And then he goes through every person that raised their hand and asks the content of the bumper stickers. We got to talk about one of those. If it's a crackpot one, you get the okay to be on the jury.

Which one would you like to talk about? The titty inspector? Oh, absolutely. He was like, yeah, my, my, was it titty inspected? Maybe it's a different word. I think it's a female body. The FBI thing. Have them out.

Have them out is what I want to underline. Have them out. That's what I want to do. Driving out a car rolled out. Have them out, madam. Have them out. Why don't you have them out? The inspector is here.

Why are they in? Bring them out because they're in now. Ma'am, have them out, please. I need to have my little jewel inspecting. What is that? The loop. The loop. Right, yeah, jeweler loop for looking at your nymphs.

Just a big chore. Oh, no, the world's greatest detective is here. Inspector Boobso. I do. One thing from the drive when he finds out about Verifarmiga and Leighton Meester being daughter and mother, Leighton Meester does this little thing with her hair in her mouth. She's into it, which we've seen the little.

No, no, no, no. It's later. It's after. So after she does the horse. thing later when he has to say goodbye to his daughter who comes to visit she does it to him too and he's like am I horny or am I not like he's just like standing there like oh by the way this is last scene in the movie which is insane you'd think this would come back in any way shape or form later but we do get the info that like she's studying law and so I thought they'd be a perfect

couple there's so much a comment it's too bad it really is too bad it's not listen it's not It's not a killer, you know what I mean? In this part of the country, you don't get away with that. I mean, if he had a real long talk with Vera Farminga, she does like him, you know. Yeah, I think Mike Pence married his niece. I think anyone can do it. To your point, mother is niece? Wow.

That's a, that's the twist ending. The Rudy Giuliani hooked up with his cousin. You have to mix it up. Well, married. They were married, yeah. I see my second cousin, sucking my car. My wife, it's my cousin. It's my wife.

It's my cousin. at the end of Chinatown. Am I homeless now? What's going on with me these days? I took my baseball cards. Fucking loser. Oh, yes. I do, I think to your point,

the courtroom stuff isn't bad in this movie, but we're away from the courtroom so much. Too much. And it's a fantasy land. It's not like you're getting like, this is how the court works. This is sober, like, back and forth. Oh, I don't give a shit.

I mean, I do. That's usually what I go for for those. sure i mean those are those kinds of legal thrillers and this is like this which is like a legal drama yeah um we get a lot of uh oh this is when the little daughter lauren comes to visit here and then this is great because it's like our dj preparing her in the car like all right now listen your grandpa's a piece of shit and uh he's a real angry fucker and he's probably not gonna like you this then the other thing and duval just comes out so excited to meet this granddaughter for the first time you're the only girl in this family all this stuff and r dj is just like

punched in the stomach. Master's stroke. I mean, honestly, if you, if you hate your son this much, the best thing you can do is get the fucking daughter to love you. Oh, sure. 100%. That's a great point. Turn her on the father. What's also insane about this is your mother died and she never met her grandchild. There's a line about that. You never brought her there ever because of this, because your dad yelled at you too much once in a while. There is no grief for the mother. They don't care. She's not a person. He's not a person. He like, like, at the start of the movie when he's telling the other judge in the city. There's a lot of judges, folks.

The city judge where Cromholtz he's like, oh, my mother died. He's got no emotion at all about this death whatsoever. Like none. I don't care how much you hate him. You're going to think something. Yeah, look, even if you got your daddy issues, I understand that. That's what you're worried about. But you still, like, your mother is dead.

I mean, it's kind of wild that there's not a single, and correct me if I'm wrong, there's not a single scene in this movie where he just kind of like has to pull over, he has to pull the movie over to kind of like just cry for a little bit like there's like that like honestly the closest you get

is Duval at the fucking grave yeah I'm gonna be back tomorrow in the day after that which is nice but that's it then you turn that faucet right off yeah forget it it now becomes the judge this is actually when they go to the lake house

where he gets his chemo treatments and Dennis O'Hare is there and he explains about chemo brain right that's pretty much right here because the dirter is there the dirter is there the only thing Steve just really wants to talk about Dennis O'Hare apparently I do love him but the only thing

here, again, very important to the Vera Farmiga of it all, because she's not a lot in this movie, so you've got to talk about when you get some Vera. They agree to hang out, and she's like, he's like, you know, meet you there, okay, and they sneak into an upstairs window over the diner and she reveals that she actually bought

the place. She also, she's like buying up this town. She's like, I also own the tavern down the street, like picking up some property. They're trying to make her, which is smart, again, if she was a character, be even better, but like they're trying not to make her just like the sad waitress that's been in the town the whole She says repeatedly, like, I love this town.

Why would I want to live in? So that is actually nicely refreshing as opposed to like, oh, you're the hero because you got out. Oh, look at you. You must have such a much better life than me. It avoids that. What it doesn't avoid is more dog shit composite shots because anytime they're sitting at a table in this diner, you have blue screen out the fucking fake windows. Also, you can have this bullshit terrible-looking Nintendo 64 waterfall in the background.

That rapid thing? get it it's terrible it looks like one of those like it's like you used to see them all the time they're framed and like it's a tropical visage and you can like it looks like it's moving but it's not those were huge in like the 80s and 90s like the moving

that's what I kept on thinking about this kind of thing fucking fake and like what she's really doing is she's like making the case like hey the judge is going to die if you want to be the new judge you got a house and no no wife or or banging situation just waiting for you and I'm not talking about my daughter

oh well you could have both I guess don't fuck your dog she's actually your knees but this movie is so aggressively horny too because she's like

really throwing herself at him there's a dry jumping that happens right here she kind of moves for a second I was like I caught that they get into some argument about like when he left or something

and she gets up you know what close the lights when you leave I'm gonna go play with myself I'm gonna go play with myself and think about you while I'm doing it and what sets it off

as he goes, should we really do this? Yes. And then he's like, you know, I'm going to be leaving, blah, blah, blah. And that's what she gets. But yeah, I'm going to go fucking play with myself thinking about you. And then he has like this, ah, like, ooh. And then he's like, and I got your little girl too. Yes. That's what he said.

Yes. He's like, I had your daughter. He says fade out, but we know it was more than that. I got her, yep. I got her. He's like, it's like that whispering. I count it. It's going up on the board. By the way, I don't want to let go of this that Andrew was acting out the dry hump

when folks at home you missed out on it was totally dude yeah get that shit moving we should get the camera in here look at that I can fucking people want

yeah we can do this on video now I can sit at Robert Downey Jr's lap mark now you really have to stop doing it or are you getting turned on over there yes I know I know you're my niece we can't do this we can't do this

So here we go, Steve. Dennis O'Harris, Dr. Norris, take it away. No, the only thing I want to talk about this scene aside of the great Dennis O'Hare is like, you know, it basically tells him it's chemo brain and it's stage four to the whole thing. Because there's something about a blackout. He has asked, they've done some testimony rehearsal and shit, the throwaway scenes, it doesn't matter.

But part of it is he's like, I remember going to the store, I remember driving down the road and the fucking bridge was out, and I turned the other way, and then I don't remember nothing. And it's this thing where it's like, That is a chemo brain. You can't have blackouts. But there's this thing where it's like, stage four, and he's going to die.

And it's the worst spin-around shot. Anyone else remember this? It's Downey's face, you spin around, and in the back, it's the cabin, and it's grandpa with it, getting chemo with the little girl on his knee, and I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Absolutely.

It's the worst shot of the movie. Well, don't worry. You're not distracted about that long as they find another headline to take over the press cycle for the week. Here's the bathroom scene, everybody. Strapping for the bathroom. Yes, I love this. Well, it's good that we start this scene with them eating.

They're eating hush puppies down at the dining room table. What's a hush puppy? Yes, indeed. And it's good for you. Don't worry about it. I like, you know, if you can get a good hush puppy there, fantastic little side dishes. It's one of those things where it's not even worth it. Because you get so many bad ones, the one, because it's going to be, if it's not even,

it's got to be flaming hot, like right out of the grill. But have you had it in Carlinville? I've never been. Yes, that's your problem. You're having all these east coasts, these northeast hush puppies. Well, because you can get like, you know, hush puppies out of Long John Silver's. You might as well eat your own sock. But if you're at a restaurant that, like, knows how to do it and you're not doing takeout or whatever,

due to fresh hush puppy, oh, man. Not to give them too much great, but I will say I've had, the only good hush puppies I've had have been in the South. Oh, yeah. But we got no business making them up here. Do you say not to give them too much credit? What the fuck? Well, we know which side. you were on for the Civil War, dude, got

noted. Chris is still just making it to his basically recovered with the outcome of the Civil War. Look, it's touchy still. People come back all the time. I heard it turned brother against brother. Dude! You listened to the band at all?

No, sure do. So, yes, of course dinner's got to devolve into a fucking argument or whatever, and it just sort of ends. And then R.D.J. is sort of sitting up doing some work or something. He starts hearing some noises. Go to check out what's going on and the judge

is doing some vomiting from the chemo treatment. I was bursting out laughing during this entire scene. I couldn't stop. I was beside myself. Okay. So, Eric, let me ask you, because I did tell people, like, I ruined this for people. You did. You told me about it. This exceeded all expectations.

Okay, great. I thought it was going to be so much different than it was. Because it was surprising, right? Like, the vomiting is happening. The vomiting is happening. He sort of gets up and you see all the poop juice droplets in the ground. Like all the little water poos start happening It was like dumb and dumber for me It really was

I had such a ball with this scene Oh my god You rewounded! Of course I did Of course you come on man You know and it's it sucks because like on the one hand Like this is a this is a scene showcasing like elder care Yeah of life whatever

But the movie has just done such a bad job setting us up to see this that I think it's fine if you're laughing at it. The director of wedding crashes. Doesn't someone shit in wedding crash? Probably. Apparently Duval they were talking to him about

A, he didn't want to do this scene Of course, if you can believe it. But then when they got him to do it, they were like we might want you to be nude and he was yeah, sure. I wish he saw his floppy cock. Oh my God, I don't want to see his fopoo floppy cock. No, his old man

dick, I don't think so. Foppy cock. Foppy ass as well. I mean, it's sagging as well. Dude, I've already seen the woman in the bathtub in the shining, all right? That's what his ass looks like. You know it. Probably. Just a waterlog, Joey, crinkly ass. And just to see all the brown water

and turd nuggets that they threw at fucking Robert Duval. You know what? Now I have met, right, someone is somewhere, because it's our, by the way, Patreon this month is of the conversation with Robert Duval. I now imagine someone listening to this conversation violently throwing their headphones up.

Like Gene Hackman does at that thought. Like, no! Well, it gets so much worse because RDJ's, he comes in and he's trying to help him, and they're just, like, slipping on his shit. Oh, yeah. And then you see, like, R.D.J's, like, nice Italian loafer just slide. Oh, it's a kid, dude. It's so good.

And then, like, he's like, all right, like, let's just get you in the bathtub, and he's got the shower extension, and he's hosing them off or whatever. And the kid bang. The kids trying to come in. I want ice cream. I want ice cream. It's like, shut the fuck up. Oh, we got soft serving here if you want some. Chocolate

The Rocky Roads Downstairs We're out of vanilla Kid But like The thing is supposed to be Like the two of them Are kind of like

Laughing because the girl Won't go away But like It's also these two Legendary actors Being like We're slipping on your shit baby Yeah baby

It's so funny Again we're trying to make this mood We're trying to lighten the mood A little bit It's such a grim scene If it was shit in his pants And obviously this is how we got his Oscar nomination.

Oh, yeah. Like, it's like, I have, I better get a gold statue if I'm fucking shitting in a shower. Yeah, yeah. So now, for anyone keeping track at home, we have piss play. Uh-huh. Incess play. Yeah. Shit play.

Yeah. Let's continue. Amazing. Like, it's just, it's unbelievable this movie. We're halfway through the movie. We're only there. We should check the German box office on this one. See how well it did.

Yeah, and Shiza cinemas, dude. You get to Shise a cinema. here with the film. David Dobkin is like considered like equal to R.W. Fosbender over there. He's just the master. The master's bad. French with Jerry Lewis. It makes sense. I'm going to be rude here and ask

a question. Sure. Sure. Do you think anyone was aroused watching this scene like ever in the history? Of course. Yes. A billion, you know, probably a couple million people watch this movie like one person's like, oh, fuck. Capital Y. Dude, absolutely. If you could think it, someone's been a rouser. Someone just raped the corpse on the R train the other day.

Totally. Yeah. I forgot about that. Diet. Yeah, so that, so obviously this would have appealed to that guy. I'm into Robert Duvall shitting. But what if it's a thing? Or maybe you're into the slide. Maybe it's the slide that gets you. And you didn't know it until it happened. Exactly.

Like shit, now I need some old man to shit on me. No, you know what, dude? Listen, I'll tell you right now. Lights come up. I pick up all my stuff. I don't want to leave stuff in the theater. No, certainly not. All my garbage.

It's a trash bin there. Go out out of the parking lot, scope around, see where the nearest highway is. walk to that highway and throw myself in front of a truck. If I found out I was turned on by watching an old man shit his pants, nah, that's it. That's time to call it a day.

Steve, your idea of maybe like courting an old man to have him start shitting on you you can get in trouble for that too because it's like his kids find out. He's not of the right state of mind. Perhaps he's going through chemo as well. I mean, it could be fun. You haven't seen a John Waters movie? Some of this stuff can just be a lot of fun.

yeah so you know there's a dumb scene where he takes the daughter out for ice cream the only thing we're talking about here is she's like asking like so when are you getting divorced all that stuff and i got to tell you if your father who you're defending is on trial for vehicular manslaughter maybe don't let your little 10 year old girl drive the car yeah you might get it for that they bumped it up to murder too right yes when they find out that he drove back or something. Oh, right, right, right. There's a tent or something. But also, like, it's amazing. The

divorce thing, we never find out if he got divorced. You don't know that. It doesn't matter. You assume, but also, like, there's no other scene with the wife. There's no other, like, the girl, he drops her off at the airport. We never see her again. What the hell? Yeah, she's been, where is she now? She does Chris's favorite

hair maneuver and then leaves. Why would you even do, if you're already playing with the, the finger, I fingered my niece thing. Uh-huh. Why are you throwing this in the briar? Why? And why would the mother, like, just put her kid on an airplane and say seal forever, like, later?

Like, I don't, like, wouldn't she come with? She's got a yoga instructor to fuck. Come on, Eric. It's bizarre. I mean, kids do fly alone all that. Yeah, but, like, I almost miss flights and connections. This fuck, you could have a seven-year-old? Well, I feel like.

She didn't drink what you got to the airport, by the way. I guess that's my problem. But also, though, this is this is R.D.J. is picking up this ticket. It's a direct flight. This girl's not going to worry about it. Wait, direct flight, I guess, would be Indie Annapolis. To Chicago.

Okay, that's not. Okay, that's not bad. To Dennis O'Hare Airport. So that she leaves. That all goes down. And then now, because he told Dax Shepard, the reason that he's vomiting before these trial dates is because he's personally invested in the client.

He's nervous or whatever. And wouldn't you know it? Now we cut to the. courtyard, the courthouse, they're both vomiting. Oh, but I love that the signifier, the barometer for this character's heart melting a little bit

is we see him vomiting. I'll tell you right now, I'm sorry. Put it up on the big board. Vomit play. There's fucking pin play. There's three scenes of vomiting in this movie. At least. God damn. The bodily functions in this movie. All the movie is missing to be a

big box comedy from the early odds is someone fighting an animal. It's like a squirrel gets in with Duval. He's like, oh, no, I'm fighting a fucking squirrel now. I'm shocked. It didn't happen, right? R.D.J is like, oh, I forgot about the deer or whatever and like a deer attack. The deer's pissing on me. The deer's pissing on me now.

Oh, no, yeah. Oh, no. I was trying to do my comb over, but I used semen instead. There's something about the judge. My hair's sticking up all weird because of the semen. I do the diarrhea joke from Dumb and Dama, but there already is one in the movies. Son, it's not coming out. You're going to have to chew it out.

He just, he can't get his, his legs up for the Jeff Daniels scene. He's trying. He's trying, but he just, he doesn't got the knees anymore, man. It's just ridiculous.

But I mean, like, and also, like, Dak Shepard is not a character either. Like, he's, no. He barely says anything after that first, like, the washout. There's one,

I think it's the end of the movie or like really close to the end, like Downey Jr. is doing some good lawyering and they just cut to Dexter and he got him and I'm like fuck you. There's another part where like R.D.J. does some cool loyering and then like they do a fist

bump behind Duval's chair to one another. It's amazing. God damn it. So yeah there's some lawyering here. He puts Grace Zabriski on the stand and you know she's talking about how she was like so devastated her son the beloved son blah blah blah he's just like yeah your son was in jail for

20 years. You visit him a lot? Oh yes. more times than I can count, and he pulls up the fucking records, and he's like, two. Twice in 20 years. So Your Honor, this guy sucked so bad his own mother didn't visit him in prison. I moved for a mistrial. What are we talking about? By meaning of loser.

He deserved it, okay. But then there's something about oh, tire, there's no tire marks here, so he didn't try to like swerve out of the way or whatever. And R.D.J. does something about, like, turtles. Here's a photo of a

dead snapping turtle. And when you hit a snapping turtle boy it's like throwing your truck right into a brick wall like he starts he starts talking all like towny like and then you see all the jurors like oh yeah I don't hit a snapping turtle before this guy's right on Jerry ever hit a turtle

so hard it cracks your back it's the turtle thing goes on for a while sure does would you help the turtle and I would why wouldn't I why wouldn't I I'm not on the stand here Dwight Dickham wouldn't We have another R.D.J. wakes up to more screaming in the house.

This is a really sad, like, he's, yeah, he's done a nightmare. He's doing De Niro crying here. Let me just do a little Robert De Niro impression. It's just, he's like, oh, you're having a nightmare or something. And he's yelling for the dead wife. He's saying, like, you left too soon. Like, this is stuff that's, like, absolutely devastating. And if I didn't watch, like, shit play five minutes ago,

it would have been, like, way harder to take. I guess this all plus the shit play is why you got the Academy Award nomination. Sure. He says, you know, like, who's the best lawyer you've ever seen? And he gives this whole monologue about this public defender who, like, did his job, even though, like, the townspeople were, like, spinning on him for whatever trial it happened. The name was Henry, if you could believe it. Oh, that's right.

Wouldn't you know it? My favorite lawyer. Wouldn't you know it? Something you should all be able to answer. answer at a moment. What was your favorite lawyer? Oh, great question. God. How many did you? Probably Perry Mason. That's probably where I'm going. Perry Mason's a solid one. I don't know. Jack McCoy. Well, those are fictional. You got to name the real guys. Yeah, there's not. I don't know. I don't know. That's it. My favorite is my father-in-law. How about that? Oh, my God. Here's a bad attorney story. And this is short and stupid. But when you buy property, you get you deal with attorney. This guy in casual conversation, the lawyer. Yeah. You're you're dealing with trying to buy a

my lawyer casually says in conversation about a restaurant oh yeah they got good french dicks there and like moves on and i've been thinking about it for years french dicks that's what he he refers to baggays you know like french bread as french dicks and you kept this guy on council no actually next time i had a deal deal i had to do i lost his phone number anybody other than the french he got fired immediately basically for saying french dix french dix he my wife said all the time around the house we just think about this guy French dicks he just said French Dix him and his French Dicks they live in Renfrey

Are you doing basically like Oh uh you want to make an um I'm making a pasta tonight can you just pick him some French Dicks on the way home yeah yeah we're French dicking it up It is insane that that guy said he said it's so casual Like he's been saying it all of his life get a French dick from the bakery not from fucking stop and shop those are stale Did you figure it out? Did you figure it out?

Did you figure it out Eric or did you have to ask him to clarify what he meant by French Dick? We were figuring it based on the meal he was speaking and the restaurant we had been to. There was a subsequent investigation. Okay, good. Yes, we went out. We did the field work. We did the field work, yeah.

And we figured out what he meant, but it was so bizarre. He did a recreation of his dinner. He was like, all right, oh, yeah. He had a bottle of wine. That can't be a dick. What else could be a dick here? What did he mean by thin pig? Purshoot! Purshoot! Pursuit, that's it.

Thin pig. Oh, man, so this is, we get a phone call. You got to come down to the police. station, we've got some new evidence here. And then this is weird because it's like, oh, here's more of the security camera footage that I guess we just didn't watch

thoroughly enough the first time. We were all drunk. It happens. But you know, Duval's testimony was like he drove the opposite way of the guy and then the rainwater had washed out a road and he had to turn around and they're like, well, if you look at it here,

it takes nine minutes to drive to where he's talking about and come back this way all told. And he was only gone for four and a half minutes. He didn't drive as far as he said he did. Clearly he followed that guy recognizing who he was and ran him down intentional. Do it a little my cousin Vinnieing here? Like it takes the whole

gritty-dig-dig world. 10 minutes to make your crits. And then we get some RDJ and Billy Bob going at it right here. This is when he explains like you were the guy that you know you got this guy off and I've always been trying to get you and I wanted to make sure

that just because this guy was a judge wasn't going to get off. And the that he's talking about where like Billy Bob was like second chair or whatever and he watched our DJ do his magic to get this guy off he goes everybody else wants Atticus Finch until there's a dead hooker in the hot tub

so that was the case that he got this guy off on killing a sex worker but again everybody's the title to a defense ladies and generally that's it's pretty basic right that's basic level oh anyway wait wait wait wait no it's gone now right we don't do that anymore but that's what's actually

what makes that line good and what the movie should be about is him fighting himself as a defense attorney as opposed to being like he has to give it up because it's so evil. It's like, no, it's not actually. Yes, yeah, yeah. But yeah, Billy Bob says that he's a bully with a big bag of tricks.

Law is the only thing capable of making people equal. And I'm going to impale your client on a first degree murder charge. Hell yeah. Because now it's like they've proved some real intent here. It's not an accident. He saw the guy. He's driving back following him. I'm going to light up your

that in the electric chair. So then for no reason, a scene from another movie, and you think there's going to be some sort of consequence here, there's like an insane storm that blows through town? Well, it's just like this movie was watching Man of Steel, had Man of Steel on the background. Like, oh, that's pretty fun. Where's my hero cake?

God damn it! It's just, this movie's so long, and it's just trying to show you like, what life is like, you know, small task. Slow down, baby. Yeah, where life slows down to a crawl. We have to go into the basement. but this is when DeNafrio's kids are around

and his wife is like, am I? And they like, shut up. Shut up. They're just like, do not open your mouth, woman. They're quietly running like a fucking at-home beadware sweatshop or something in this basement. They're all just like working on something just out of the frame the whole time. Sir, sir, we deliver some exposition. No! No, you can't! And here comes Jeremy Strong to embarrass himself.

Oh, here's his work. With this performance. You got to show some work. And finally, get the good footage of your. your brother's career-ending car crash. It's bad. It starts out like Thice, right? Everybody's like, oh, what a sweet thing you put together here, Jeremy Strong. Uh-oh, footage of the big wreck that changed all our lives.

Duvall's like, turn it off! He doesn't go full George C. Scott here because it's pretty close. He does. I mean, he fucking kicks the projector off the table. It's insane. I'm tired of this shit. Turn it off. He was going to have a fastball, 90 miles an hour.

And he is ready to fist fight his own son. scene like Duval was like ready to go slapping him in the face a little bit that's kind of I would have preferred to see you fucking on screen I would have preferred what he got it would have been cool if one of those kids just beat the shit out of oh man you know what I mean? You're waiting for

it you're waiting for Vince of Vincent Donofrio all of his power and might to take one sludge it would be a Gallagher watermelon explosion if DeNafrio fucking wound up on how about Jeremy Strong or whatever he gets beaten by this guy all the time Yeah, a slap fight.

You'd have to be because, to Steve's point, remember in Punisher Warzone when the Punisher punches that kid in the face and skull goes in? That's what would happen if Vizantafrio punched Robert Duval. I would be laughing a star. I would be losing it. But the weird thing here, so, and Duval's like, I'm tired of this. I'm going to go fucking Jonathan Kent myself in his fucking hurricane. Running out of the storm cellar. R.D.J right here, did you guys notice this?

He does a hop out of the cellar as if he's hopping into an Iron Man stance. It's really quick, he just kind of like, like, plants himself, like, I'm ready for action. Great. To just basically chase my father back up into the house into the kitchen and continue the argument.

But in the argument, we find out, which is something like, there are other judges in the town. There's, what's the guy who takes the, you know? I think they said they had to bring that guy

in from somewhere, though. Okay. But why, there's no way if your son is involved in a drunk driving accident or a, I think he was high. High, yeah.

you get to judge that he's like why did you send me to juvenile hall that's just never happening that's a conflict of interest yes it's your fucking son and then he gives him the hardest sentence possible totally sent him away to like a juvie for a while he's like you know you wouldn't have learned

if I gave you a light sentence dude and he also it's fucking great well because also the light sentence thing was in regard to he didn't want to give the life sentence because the light sentence because the light sentence the kid got out and killed the girl

we don't find that until later but here he's just like yeah but when he's yelling here there's a great you know I did this for you I did that for you and there's a great

Duval's delivery he goes and I put food in your mouth mouth it's so awesome I just like imagine him like every time

he has to pay a bill for dinner just being so pissed off fucking ate a hamburger fucking buy French fries for these little fucking disgusting whole table at

Their own personal French dick, can't believe it. $40 on Easter dinner. Can you fucking believe it? Furious. Families that get really mad about bills and so stop having these fucking kids everywhere. What are you doing? Well, that I'll think, right? About like, oh, yeah, well, free rent, free food.

Yeah, you fucking got knocked up. Asked for it. And you could have flushed it at any time. Well, it's not anymore. Yet again. Okay, that due process. What else are we losing? We're losing a lot.

So I think we just. As we go along, we'll pick them up. We've certainly lost conflict of interest. There we go. Free speech and protesting. So he goes to see a Vura Farmingia at the bar here. And I got to tell you right here, big bar no-no, as far as I'm concerned. Vending thing with the loose peanuts.

Oh, yuck. I mean, I know they're in the shell still, but you can miss me on that. No, thank you. No. Give me a fucking petting zoo. Just get me a bowl. Because actually one of our favorite bar is the levee in Brooklyn. They'll go cheese balls.

but every time you come in they give you a personal bowl it's not like a situation like a loose it's not like a pit of them you're sharing with all the bar flies and how many fucking people are you getting a day you can't afford this amount of peanut bowls are you serious

but he says you know he's like who the fuck is Carla's dad and they sort of get into that he goes like what what lies are you going to tell me and she goes through all these things like I'm gonna one lie is like I'm fine with you leaving and never seeing you again.

One lie is that I'm fine with Carla, never knowing who her dad is. And that's the one that, like, again, puts the weight back over and, oh my God, is it my fucking daughter? Oh, my God, is it my fucking daughter? And it's only just to make it better that it's his niece. Like, you're like, oh, man, he didn't fucking hook up with his daughter. He's niece.

I think it should have been the judge's daughter. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I stepped out on my wife with you a hot girlfriend. You left town and I'm bald him. She needed the shoulder to cry on. was there. I put the Metallica t-shirt on and everything. I pretended to be you. And sure

enough, yeah, I came in her head. It stuck up like there's something about Mary. Can you believe it? We had to chew it out. We couldn't get it out of there. I did it all to end justice for all. How about that? So, we're in court the next day. We already talked about the little whiskey scene, but yes, he breaks

that sobriety mighty easily. Yeah, because I mean, like, I guess the idea is, like, just one more time for the road kind of a deal, like, I'm dying. I'm about to go to fucking jail. Right. But, and it's not a nice, it's not a great scene. It's also like, it would be more powerful.

He's like, you know, I was going to do it, but I realized I'm stronger than it. So I don't need, you know, something. No. He just kind of drinks the shitty evidence. Why not just give up? That's what the movie's done. With all these storylines, it just gave up. I wanted to give up watching this movie.

Exactly. So why not just give up and drink your old Evan Williams before you go to jail for four years? So Billy Bob's got the old security footage in the courtroom and you see, Duval in there. He's checking the eggs like it's clerks. And you see Zander Berkeley come in here. No audio because it's a security camera. They both look at each other, whatever.

And Duval has this freak out where he like stands up really quickly and then just passes out in the courtroom and that's the end of court for the day. I'm not even supposed to be here today. We're going to play fucking hockey on the roofs. I assure you we're open. You should check the video still up. Randall might be over there.

Are you sure you court is in session? today. 37 dicks. My niece sucked 37 dicks. And they were all her uncles. Try not to suck any dick on the way to the electric chair.

Oh, that guy in the bathroom you had sex with is your nephew. What? He's dead, by the way. So we go to the hospital. There is a funny exchange here where, like, again, Jeremy Strong, breaking this camera out, and Vincent Dinoffrio's getting

pissed off about it. So R.D.J. interjects, and he's like, hey, like, I hear take my wallet, go get something from the vending machine. And this is Jeremy Strung going through the wallet. He's like, oh, wow, look at the, you got a picture of a naked lady in here. And RDJ just goes, yeah, it's a fun wallet. Good line in a bad script. And again, what I want from this movie, because there's never, there's the big blowout with him and Duval.

There's never a scene with Donofrio going to him being like, either like, you know, every day I regret getting in that car with you or even like it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I have my wife, I have my sons. I love my life. Any scene to give a good actor that's in this movie and a huge story point that just goes nowhere. And this is like the closest you get right here is they're sitting there and he's like, listen, you have to save dad. Like dad cannot go to prison. Sure.

And then like, you know, R.DJ tries to do like the old like, it's all right or whatever. And he pats him on the back and he's like, I'm the older brother. You don't pat me. But that's like as far as it goes because then he just goes in our DJ does to go see Duval and they fucking yell at each other. some more. Exactly. Yeah, no, it doesn't matter. Again, give up on it. It's already happened. We saw the footage. We know everybody's angry. Yeah. Duvall's got a great line, though.

He goes, I know me. I know I ran that man down. I know I'm a vindictive asshole. I know it. I remember. I love that it's like the eggs breaking and he's like, I remember. And I'm like, oh, man. That flashback to that scene is so good, right?

Oh, yeah. And then he told me that Holmesgrave is not too far from your mother's and then he'd only walk 50 feet and he can piss on both of them. That Blackwell boy, who is the greasiest man alive? Did they dip him in lard? He's from like Mordor or something. He came out of a sack from a tree.

Burn from the earth. It's like, ah. That Blackwell's that, yeah, they just birth like orcs. But this is a weird, like so he takes the stand. And Billy Bob is, you know, going at him or whatever. And he's like, you know, so you don't remember hitting this guy. He's like, no, I don't or whatever. And then, like, they think he's stonewalling him.

And then it's like, okay, like, everything's cool. Like, you didn't fuck it up. And then he's like, but that's not my testimony. He, like, won more things himself here. And he's basically saying, like, you know, I intended to drive the way. I don't remember hitting him, but I'm not saying I didn't hit him with the car. And this is the flashback where, yes, he does say that I remember, yeah, I'm going to piss on your wife's. I piss on your wife's grave.

Yes, right. And the whole thing about what you mentioned, Steve, the Dax Shepherd line happens right here when it's, when they think that he's about to get off Scott Freene. He's like, he got him. Yes, that's right. No, no, no. The tables are turning right now, as a matter of fact.

And then Downey cross-examines him. This is when, again, one of the things, he does, Duval doesn't want his chemo diagnosis out, or his cancer diagnosis out, because it would at least put in, his last six months of cases blah blah blah and he also talks about his legacy and you know when he

dies he doesn't want to go out like Reagan where everybody thought he was a fucking dottering idiot it's like I want everything I want the flags that have staff or whatever but I would like to have some jelly beans if you don't if you would there's an easy way to go out where you don't seem like a dottering idiot retire

bitch everyone in Congress retire go fish and fucker also yeah if you're you know say I don't know the fucking president and you're daughtering, don't run for a second term. Possibly. Yeah, and that goes for both of them. What if that's the thing that's keeping me out of prison?

There is that to consider it. There is that. Speaking of which, the judge is sentenced to prison, we have a quick R.D.J. and Vera at the lakehouse. This is what she explains. She hash is all out here because he finally is just like, am I her father? and he's she's like no your brother Vincent

Donavrio is though what what what you have to I'm sorry for you have to spell it you are her uncle you got a hand job from your niece like just just come don't don't hide behind

it's your brother's daughter and after all of that is like laid out and like do the math figure out who you diddled or whatever they're just making out on this text chair again I made out with I made out with the young one

and I'll get the older lady. Yeah. And she's cool with it. But yeah, so they just sort of make out and, like, one thing that this revelation would have me do, maybe I'll make out with Viro for Mario one more time, because why not? You're there. I'm certainly not moving back to my hometown.

I'm never returning. Sure. I'm barely, again, I would walk into the sea. Personally, that's where I would go. I mean, the lake's right there. It's just right there. Just get some rocks in your pocket. You know, Emily you're good to go. Or is that Virginia Wool. I think it's Virginia Wool. Yeah, but just, you're good to go.

But like, you don't want to be around these people anymore because you're fucking hooked up with your knees. But what if you could be the judge? That's the question. If you could be the judge and spin his little chair around. But yeah, they're waiting for sentencing. Sentencing does happen. He's found not guilty of murder in the first.

He has found guilty of voluntary manslaughter. And what's very funny is not the not guilty charge, all the woohoo's you can stomach. And then the guilty charge, dude, this courtroom was ready. to throw up. They're so disgusted by this outcome. It's very funny. Everyone's crying. Basically, it's a death sentence because this guy ain't got to... Or is it?

A question about, or is it, actually? The question there. Folks at home, there's another 30 minutes left in this movie. At least. The last of Billy Bob is right here. He fucking flattens up his little soldier cup. He does, they give Billy... And this is a testament to Billy Bob being a great

actor. He's got no lines right here, but he kind of just walks toward the camera and stops for a second and you can tell that what he's emoting is like yeah sometimes it fucking sucks even if I won the case kind of a deal he does a really good job and it's also like I'm going he looks like he's about to say to downy

but he doesn't like what am I going to say here I'm certainly not going to gloat but I'm not going to blah blah blah and it's like you know what I'm just going to get the fuck out of the movie fucked off back to Chicago for a little bit we've got the bathroom reteaming here of Crumholtz and Downey Jr. once again and he's learned not to piss on it That's a bookend.

This has to be your last scene. No, you're absolutely right, dude. It's the first scene, yes. No, yeah. He's, you know, he's grown as a man. Now he won't piss on someone. Oh, yeah, he knows to use the P-Pad. Then you go out in the hall and Crumholtz turns into Al Pacino.

And then you know. Vanity, my favorite sin, Kevin. And then you get out of that. That's really easy. It's also the sanctimonious, like, thing about, like, law. It's like, juries usually do get it right. But, you know, people know, Homer's. Simpson but not third good marshal

like what? But then it's like, oh he's like, Cromholtz is like, you know thank you for not pissing on me. But I expected to go much harder on that one woman. It's not an outright tanking, but it's like I expected you to go harder on that you're probably going to get fired for this

or something like this and he's like, well, I've got a judgeship waiting for me. He's like, don't worry about that. I've got a mother and a daughter to fuck, chat. That'll be a great reprise of like, oh, you know, I sleep in a fucking big house and blah. You know, I'm going to go back to Indiana. I'm going to fuck mother and her daughter. And that daughter happens to be my niece.

So what do you think about that, crumholtz? Coupon ever again. Wah, wah, whoa, whoa. You didn't piss on crumholt. See what up in Hymn, bitch. We'll see this movie seven months later. We are back in Carlinville. Indiana here going. There's been a petition of a compassionate release. Duval looking much more

worse for wear than less. Looks like a zombie. Yes. Billy Bob's sign like endorsed it. Yeah. Oh. Oh, I miss that. Billy Bob endorses it. Yeah, the Dwight Dickham's signature loud and proud. Yeah, he only got seven months of his four year sentence. Which would have killed him. Like seven months, that guy and seven months in a jail, dead. Yeah, but it's like a judge in a jail Although, dude, like, he was probably kept away from everybody. To your point, though, Eric, the, the Dwight Dickham, a character in this movie has a change of heart and signs of compassionate release. The fact that you have to really put your fucking, your jeweler's loop to find that out. By the way, this is now twice you guys have brought up jewelers loops.

I didn't know that it was called a jewelers loop. They said that. Were you guys all hanging out in the Diamond District without me? I just paid attention to Uncut Jems. It's in there. It's a pathway line, but it's there. I only saw the movie once I couldn't tell you I like the ones that look like a little spyglass

Yeah, that's the one you want Yeah, pull them out totally Also good for, you know, when you go to the opera Oh, sure Yeah, you know Put two of them on Get a look at the fat guy down there What's he singing about?

Oh man, I bet it's nothing good Mini telescope Yeah He's usually getting cut Nine times out of ten The fat man in the opera I'm getting to the cut Not the suckda

get in the cocked, Oprah man, boy, bye. Kissed the daughter and did it was my niece. That might have actually been in there. I think it's a regaletto, yeah. But they're in the fishing boat. In the fishing boat, and we're having some reminiscing about these old little honey-toffee candies that they have here.

And this is something in the beginning of the movie, there's a routine that him and his daughter have a piece of candy. Yes, to get a piece of candy that he apparently got from his dad. I wouldn't know because his daughter has been out of the movie for 45 minutes and never seen again. Longer than that. She might have been kidnapped. I don't know. My God.

So check on this girl. You dropped her off at this international airport. And she flew out of the movie. But yeah, the saying was, where's my bit of honey old man? And it's also, so they blame. This is what it is. Duval great line here. He's like, you remember these?

He holds up the candy. He's like, yeah, of course. And he goes, you little gremlins used to eat these things. He calls them little gremlins. Inhale these things. Inhale them. That's what it is. And then they got, the mom made them stop eating them because Dale ate a bunch of them and got sick or something like that.

He pulled out a filling of his tooth. Oh, that's until Dale pulled the filling out and then mom took him away. Fucking Dale. Like they're both pissed off. They couldn't have the candy anymore growing up. He wasn't himself after that, you know? Picked up the camera. He gently passes away in the boat.

After Duval says that R.D.J. is the best lawyer he's ever seen. It's very nice. And, but like, it's one of those things. It's such a movie. thing where it's like, and he looks over and he's like, yeah, dad, you're dead. And it was like, holy shit, oh my God, like doing chest compressions or something.

Steve, come on. Be real, man. You're not doing chest compressions in a boat on a 90-year-old man. Let the man fucking die. But I don't think I'd be so cool with it though. You don't know until you're there, man. I don't know. But it is very eerie, but also it is such a movie thing of like, and then I put the candy

wrapper in my pocket and half a second later, I looked over and he was dead. Exactly. It's such a, and he's just notice something. And I rode my dad's corpse back to shore. Yeah, it was too much to, you know, that's not called pedaling, is it? What is it called?

Paddling. Paddling. You know, it's too heavy. You got to dump that. I rode my father's corpse back to shore, like that Daniels movie. It's like the end of jaws, you know. You just. What day is it, Dad?

Wednesday? Oh, I'm riding, Dad. I'm right. I'm sorry. Altered a joke. You'll never survive. The deathboat. Oh, dude.

Yeah, deathboat. You're elderly on a boat. It's fishing for your soul. And right here, I was just kind of like, well, now it's got to be over. Yes, exactly. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Now we got another fucking funeral scene in the movie.

Yeah, baby. R.D.J. has the daughter here. We do see the daughter again. Oh, she is there. Okay. That's right. So I think it's like, because he fucking says to that ex-wife, he's like, I'm getting custody, by the way. So, yeah, he fucking slaughtered that trial definitely. That woman didn't stand a chance.

No way. We come back to Chicago. She's on the street. asking for change. Somehow I owe him alimony. How did this happen? How? We see R.D.J. goes to the courthouse and

the flag is indeed at half staff which, you know, he was saying to his father. It's not going to happen. It gives a shit. Again, great last scene in the movie here. It's been a couple. It's another one. We're back at the diner now. Dude, and R.D.J. is wearing these sunglasses. Like, he's about to find out

who killed Kennedy. He's old. They look kind of cool. Yes. And Back to the diner, I think. This is, yeah. The wake is there for them. D'nafrio is playing with both his, the daughter and Dale, you know, Jeremy Strong.

And it's like, that's the last of them. And, like, there's a nice moment where, like, DeNafrio goes up to, Danny's about to leave. And Danny's like, you're not leaving, Arias. It's like, no, well, hey, my daughter's over there. I'm not going to like. Yeah.

I got a responsible. But it's like, oh, you know, I just want to, you know, I want to have a moment with you. He says, I just want to. Yeah. That's all, and he can't, he can't say anything. and it's one of those nice, like, R.DJs, like, I got, you know, and gives him a hug.

And I'm sitting there like, man, it's almost as if Vincent Nonofrio is one of our finest actors. And he's got about six lines of dialogue in this movie. And they don't even let that play, because right after that, then, well, then there's a scene where, you know, Sam and Frodo go. And, you know, the whole crowning of fucking, the crowning ceremony. Yeah, when the judge gets on the boat to the elven afterlife. Oh, right. Yeah. I'm going to be shitting on this boat. No, but you're right. It doesn't play because then there's one more fucking season.

That's when the Bonnie Vera kicks in right at the hug. Just no room for Vincent DiNafrio to say anything because Bone starts singing again. And then we get back to the fucking court and he goes up and he's just like taking in the majesty and the wonder of this courtroom. Spins the chair. It spins the chair. And then we cut the black with close up to on our D.J. Cut the black. So the idea is he's going to become the judge. It's just it passes down between. I think I think in this town that's how it works as much like. some sort of kingdom you inherit the judge

they don't want to change all the name things like judge palmer oh perfect we're saving money saving money left and right here we're not gonna yeah we're definitely not gonna like have an election or anything like that why would you do that why would you do that I mean you don't have to change any of the campaign signs the little name played on the fucking bench

you're good we're saving the town money oh my god what if one of the blackwell clan ran against him and the movie's like another hour that's shock we did that happens in FX's the judge TV series. Oh my god, I would love to watch season two by the way. Oh yeah, that's more of a season two move. So after all

that we've said, all of the not greatness that has happened in this movie, the poop juice, the incest, the whole bit, I would argue that one of the worst parts of this movie is the song over the end credits, which is fucking Willie Nelson covering Coldplay's the scientist.

The only possible way you could have put me in a situation where I am saying, I prefer cold play to Willie Nelson. Come out to me You Dear you I need you

No thank you You know how lucky He is It's not the most Kermit the frog He's ever sounded It's not great And I love Willie

Of course I just want to know Like What fucking cartel He was in debt to For the weed balance That he had to cover That song

It's just the music in this Is like just 2010's Underlined And that's just an unfortunate reality it's a real like this is not johnny cash covering hurt it's trying to be trying to invoke that yes it's a it's an old timer singing a sad song but it's by a younger artist yes yeah you know score would have been just fine totally just let's just fucking do some instrumental on the way out baby but that is the end of the judge we'll go around here for some final thoughts leaving of course chris cabin for last but mr ciska yes oh my hilarious parts of this movie okay it's not a recommend but the poop juice sequence, I thought

was so fucking funny, had a ball with it. Other than that, this is a sprawling two and a half hour mess and I cannot believe it got nominated for anything. I don't know. It's not for me, but the poop juice scene, excellent. There you go. Stephen Sadek.

Guilty. No, yeah, I don't care for this film. It's incredibly long. Great poop juice. It is a see it to believe it, Chris. I will give you that. I will give the Game King his, his his props here this is a see it to believe it I can't believe this movie is what it is

and the things that it does with the incest but it's still a no human beings shouldn't see this if you have a podcast great go see it sure goblins like us can see it even if it's a podcast on like the fucking dewy decimal system yeah I don't know it's a light recommend

it's a weird like if you removed the incest angle from the movie sure great hey great idea I mean but honestly like you could even leave the poop juice thing it would play like just a completely forgetable like courtroom family drama thing

and that's I think what really got my goat about the movie more than anything is like it's a format of a movie that I can just watch I'll watch court stuff all the time it's a genre that I enjoy watching and the movie is filled with actors

that I really like and yet somehow with a script this bad with the wrongheaded hiring of a comedy director to make this movie like there's just so many wrong turns. I just can't.

It's not even, I don't know, it's not a recommend at all. It's just a waste of time. Chris Cabin. Oh, yes. I mean, to me, it is one of those movies where I was like, there's so much at once that was writing on this movie. Like all my thoughts on the different things at once were

like, because RDJ, I genuinely was like, oh, this must be a passion project or something. This must be, this is the one that got through. Sure, this must be a huge deal. And it's a, I don't know how else you describe it other than a complete disaster. Every decision is won.

An Academy Award nominated. Nominated. There's quite a lot of them. You see, like, it's exactly what I said. Like, we were talking about. Every minute that, like, we could try to end this storyline, we could try to finish this thought. Why do that?

Why not give up? Why not just, you know, why not just give up on the idea of this even having any emotional, like, reality, having any morals, fuck that, fuck all that. Why don't we just do this incest stuff? Why don't we just do this poop juice? Why don't we just do whatever Jeremy

Strong's doing? Why not do that? It's like a little test kitchen of the worst ideas you've ever had to make a movie. I do see what you were saying like this is kind of like a movie that used to exist and now it doesn't because of the judge. Like I could

I like the cast if this was paired down with a different director and it was more of a courtroom thing I would love that. The rainmaker. You're talking about the rainmaker. Yes. Yeah. A T&T afternoon movie I would adore. Yeah. But this is not that. That's not what this is. What happened to you? Oh my God, you guys.

Is there a judge two? No. You're making the look here. No, because now this is crazy. Okay. So I looked up the, because we're talking about the script a lot. Sure. I looked up the writers of the movie. There's a lot of them, by the way.

there's two and then there's one of the screenplay credits shares a story credit that's it so david dobkin and nicholas shank have story credits nick shank and bill dubuke have screenplay credits now nick shank uh you have seen other stuff that he's done and liked chris and eric he wrote the mule nice oh hell yeah uh he wrote the screenplay for cry macho nice he likes to write movies about old man yeah right exactly what is an old What would an old man do here? Ooh, I have an idea for a story. You're joking, dude.

Motherfucker wrote Granterino. Yeah, right. This is awesome. This guy rocks. So that's what he... Bad grandpa, dirty grandpa. The war with grandpa. And then oddly right in the middle of all that, he also wrote, uh, some episodes of narcos.

Okay. But, but... Featuring old men. Right. There's, I'm sure there's old men. It's a geriatric consultant. But so Bill Dubuque, sure, is the other guy. Mm-hmm.

Okay. And so he was, uh, he wrote on, he created and wrote on Ozark, among other things. But Steve, I'm going to have to snipe you on the coming soon here because next week's episode, the accountant, this guy also wrote.

Whoa. He also wrote the accountant. I can't believe what I see. So now we know who wrote Jeremy Strong's character. That is interesting because when I watched, you know, we're doing this on a Saturday. We're doing these back to back. And I finished

the judge. Amazon can't let fucking any This happened to me too. It was like, watch next. The accountant. I'm like, are you reading my fucking? I think we're influencing the algorithm, right? Like people are into the judge and the accountant now

because we're doing them. I think it might have happened. Also the new account is coming out. So we're probably trying to get people on board. And the autism angle and the fact that the kid, the guy wrote both of these. So that's probably some of it. It was very bizarre.

Oh, and actually he did So Bill Debutte came back and wrote the accountant too also. Oh, good for him. That is just, I don't know that that's ever happened on We Hate Movies before, just accidentally the same screenwriter week to week. Well, that. Camptu is a lot of fun. We saw it early, Andrew and I.

Absolutely. But next week, right? Next week is the accountant, man, but that is going to do it for this episode on the judge. If you do want more We Hate Movies, of course, check out the Patreon, patreon.com, slash we hate movies, where you could have heard this entire conversation ad free if you're not on there yet. This is almost the, the month.

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We love movies, yes. Great conversation on the conversation. Great movie. You know, if you've never seen it before, I know it's from the 70s, and some of you kids don't like that. But give it a shot. I think it would be very rewarding. And we have a lot of fun to say about it. We have a lot of fun stuff to say about it.

And if you are listening to this episode on The Judge, the week that it comes out, this Tuesday, this is Duval Week, baby, because that WLM is just coming out two days from now on Thursday. So get ready to download that. Right now, also available, of course, is we have a once in a lifetime that was released already. The pocket dial murder. The pocket dial murder. Oh, interesting. That's right. has already released. You've got to catch up on that.

The Melrose Place. Ah, right. The Melrose Place. The Beverly Hills 9-0-202-1-0. Feat. The Daddy Wars. Oh, the Daddy Wars. At the end of the Daddy Wars. Don't forget to check out The Gleap Glossary. We'll be talking about the Newt Gunray. This Friday, as a matter of fact. Wow. Okay, great. That was a lot of fun. We recorded it

a few weeks ago. You might notice that. But I think the markets are still the same. Sure. And on the animation, Dan, we did. Gem and the hologram. The gem and the Hollywood. That was a lot of fun as well. Intrigat the Indy 500. Dude, how about this, though?

Indianapolis? There we go. All this accidental connection. Wheels within wheels. Everything is connected. But yes, like we said, already next Tuesday, the show rose on, we are talking about the accountant. The accountant with the Ben Affleck.

The Ben Affleck, directed by the Gavin O'Connor. And the sleeping Anna Kendrick. And the ghost John Lithgow. Oh, yeah. But the goat, John Bolck. Bernthal. Also, we'll be talked about at great length next week. When we talk about the accountant, until then, I've been Andrew Jufin.

Stephen Seda. The Eric Sisker, Chris Gavin. Take it easy. Thank you.