We Hate Movies - S15 Ep797: The Craft (with Angelica Jade Bastién)
Episode Date: April 29, 2025“This is just a collection of mediocre covers.” - Chris on the soundtrack On this week’s episode, the gang’s under the spell of the mid-90’s witchcraft cult classic, The Craft, chatting ab...out the flick with long-time friend of the show, Angelica Jade Bastién! Does this movie get better with each viewing? Couldn’t the script have added a little more of Cliff De Young’s character (for Eric)? How great is Snake Guy and his exit from the film? And did anyone care about that legacy sequel? PLUS: Should Charles Xavier take these girls under his wing? The Craft stars Robin Tunney, Fairuza Balk, Neve Campbell, Rachel True, Christine Taylor, Breckin Meyer, Nathaniel Marston, Cliff De Young, Assumpta Serna, and Skeet Ulrich as Chris Hooker; directed by Andrew Fleming. Tickets are on sale now for our three-night residency during the Oxford Comedy Festival! We’ll be doing six shows over three nights from July 18 through 20, doing shows like WHM, W❤️M, The Nexus, The Gleep Glossary, and Animation Damnation! Tickets are going fast, so friends over there, snag your tix! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.
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This week on the program.
Yeah, this movie rewired some stuff in my brain as a kid.
It's the Kraft.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Stephen wearing a wig.
Eric Siska.
Chris Craft.
Angelica Jade Bastien.
And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies.
Thank you for tuning in, as always.
That's right.
This week we're talking the craft, directed by Andrew Fleming from the Year of Our Lord 1996.
And to do this, who better to bring in than our old great friend, Angelica Jade Bastion,
back to We Hate Movies.
Hello.
Hey, guys.
It's always nice hanging out with you guys.
Of course, you had to get an actual witch for this episode.
We don't know what's going on here, you know.
So we got to have someone in here who can tell us, like, the BS from the real deal.
Do the drawings move in the books?
Oh, of course.
They don't move for you guys?
I thought they just move for everyone.
Oh, they don't move for us.
Nothing moves for us.
The downloads don't move.
do a spell to get more people
invested in the show?
I'll call upon my ancestors
be like, hey, I know you guys
went through like a lot of shit, but
can you know those white guys?
Give me some help with their podcast.
They need a leg up.
That's what they need.
Push Tim Apple around a little
bit. How about that? Just give you a little
nudge. To be fair, though, we couldn't
do this episode without you because if there's the
four of us, it'd be a bunch of Chris Hookers
talking about the craft.
You can't have that.
It's true. Also, man,
Chris Hooker great character name.
Excellent name.
Oh, yeah.
Real asshole haircut on him, too, by the way.
It's a real, like, that guy looks like an asshole with that haircut.
Yes.
It is just obvious from moment one.
Don't talk to this dude.
This dude is skeezy.
Like, Nancy was right.
Justice Friedrich.
Yes, please.
I mean, honestly, that goes from most skeet-orric characters.
Generally speaking, just stay away from them.
It's not a good idea.
Generally, I just, I feel that way.
Even with Chill Factor, I know he's a nicer guy
in that one.
Oh, sure.
He's a loving father in that movie.
It's high school rules.
You don't, like, bullies hang out
with bullies, like finds like.
If he's hanging out with a little asshole, Breck and
other guy, and they're being bullies,
you've got to be like, that's the bully.
And you just walk away. You know what I mean? You've got to
figure that shit out. And you know,
the thing with Skeet's hair, just to get back to it for a quick
second. What's going on? You're Skeet Elric, I believe,
naturally curly hair.
Which you see on display here
Because it's just like very short
And we're not doing anything product wise or whatever
When he's Billy Loomis and Scream
Just months after this movie comes out, right?
Craft is released in May.
Scream is in December of 1996.
He's, it's longer, it's straightened,
the hair we sort of more know him as.
This is like pre-fame hair, I think.
Yeah.
He's less hot in this one.
Oh, like miles less.
It's actually kind of wild.
how much less hot.
Maybe he should have been killing people.
And then he gave him hot powers.
Yes.
Just like what's his name?
Ed Gein was a looker, right?
Was that the looker?
Oh, like, it's all the works in movies.
In real life,
these, like, serial killers are ugly.
I have, okay, this is something I've always wanted to ran about.
Sure.
They talk about some of these white serial killers, like Bundy.
Who's that bitch who was eating people?
and like...
There's a few.
Oh, Jeff Dahmer.
Dommer as like attractive.
And then you hear this, right?
Like, as a black person, you hear this.
Like, this is how they got them
because they were attractive.
You see these boogers.
And they're like, what the fuck's happening
with white people that you guys think?
This is...
Angelica, come on.
Dommer's a Milwaukee 8.
Okay.
Yeah.
But that's your taste.
Eric, you have unique tastes in men.
I feel like you are.
are. I will say, though, I think you're totally right. And you always hear that. But it's also
like this weird thing about like historical figures too. Like Kennedy, they talk like he's some
fucking 10th. He's ugly. I'm sorry. Dude, it's a ham sandwich with legs. Exactly. He was ugly.
And don't get me started on the fact that Marilyn Monroe will always be so tied to them,
even though I have controversial thoughts about like that is, I think some of that. The Kennedy
connection is actually trumped up, but I'm not going to go down that road. But she's
so beautiful. She's so beautiful.
Like, oh, my God. And then you think of him
and you're like, what?
Like, what the fuck? Man, these
men. He looks like a whole movie's character.
Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my God.
He looks like a whole movie's character.
The man was killed. That is true
and you should know it.
Speaking of stuff that's probably pretty ugly,
did anyone watch that sequel or that
Blumhouse remake The Craft Legacy in 2020? I just
found out about this. So here's the thing
about that. Here's the thing about that movie. I thought for sure that I had seen it.
And so I looked up, because it was 2020, it was a Pando release, right? So I looked up on
Letterbox, and there was no rating, very unlike me. And I was like, well, you know, pandemic,
maybe I just had other things on my mind or whatever. So I asked Chelsea, I was like, we saw
that craft sequel, right? And she was like, I've never seen that movie. But I guess maybe
I just watched the trailer or something, because I know that Farooza is the only character that
returned.
It's a pre-fame
Kaylee Spani as the main character.
Oh.
And is it a Hannibal Lecter thing where
like they go and visit her to get her wisdom?
Yes, actually. I just I just
looked at the Wikipedia plot somewhere. It seems
like it's an ending. I'm revealing myself.
She's like someone's biological
mother and it's like, whoa.
That's stupid.
Oh, that's dumb as fuck.
They use their witch powers to
make like a shitty dude
just like a
genuinely good person.
They're like, that guy's a chauvinistic pig.
Oh, nice.
Witch powers. Now he's just a good guy.
And that's so far from like the appeal
of what's going on in this movie.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But maybe
that's the way to actually fix men.
Just like get witches to cast spells
because everything else isn't working.
Honestly, we're up for anything at this point.
We will take any bids that sound somewhat
I don't want to see a budget
until I really see a good outline
But this
We'll take anything
Gave me a witchcraft will work
When I see that budget
I'm going to flip out over the candles
The amount of candles you bought
There's going to be a lot of red ones
Eric and they're going to be
They're going to be the bigger ones I think
I think we're going to have to go with the bigger ones
So Andrew already started by saying
This would be rewired his brain
My brain was already fucked I went to Catholic school
But I'm curious
about you, Angelica, what's your, what is your experience with the craft?
My brain was already fucked up.
I saw Hellraiser at 10 years old.
So, like, I was ruined early on.
But the craft was like, I think for many, you know, young girls my age, I was already
goth.
So it was already, like, the Nancy character was, like, you know, made for me.
Like, she's like an icon in this house.
But, you know, it, like, awakened my interest in witchcraft.
and like it was just like for women of a certain age
this is like a crucial movie
for the weirdo women of a certain age
like this like speaks to us
it's fun
and I have so many issues with it as an adult
but there's like this nostalgia factor
and like Farooza Balc is just so good in it
like she's so much better than the movie itself
that you're kind of like oh imagine if there was a movie
that like match the crazy
energy of her performance. Yes, she does feel like she's kind of existing in a slightly better
movie. And I like this movie quite a bit. It plays better for me every time I see it. And
she is just in a different space. And I kind of think that's true of like a lot of stuff that
she pops up. And even like smaller, more thankless things like almost famous, you almost feel like
like she's there. Like she's in the movie. She's doing a good job. But she's also like better. I mean,
She's obviously better than that tiny role.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
You open the door to a question I wanted to ask you,
because I know this movie is super important to weirdo women,
weirdo girls at the time who became weirdo women.
I married one.
Weird weird weirdo woman.
What is more important to, I mean, obviously this is a case by case basis.
This or Ghost World?
Weirdo Girl.
Ghost World did not speak to me.
It was too white.
It was a kind of white that I was like.
like not interested in
and I watched it like in my youth
like I remember getting it from like
blockbuster and being like
oh that like looks interesting
those are girls I'm like a girl
like the logic
when I was picking movies would be like that
Ghostworld like never spoke to me
and like I feel like
because probably because
in the craft
Nancy that character has an edge
and like
She's weird in a way that's not as easily, like,
um, digestible, I would say.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
She's like weird in a dangerous way, actually.
She's, she's, she's an acquired taste as a person.
Like if you, like in the movie, if you're trying to make friends with her, it's an acquired taste.
And you kind of feel like the rest of the girls in the circle know that too.
There's a certain sense of like eye rolling like, oh, Nancy.
Nancy's a fuck.
Sorry, Nancy's a cunt.
but that's just who she is
like don't feel any sort of way
but she is a cut which is like
a funny thing to be like
yeah our friend's a bitch
just like deal with it
everyone's apologizing
for her all that she's just like
that way sometimes sorry
yeah she's just like
really depressed because like her
home life sucks she lives in a
leaky trailer
yeah she should stop doing that
I don't know why she does that
It's really, it's depressing when I hear about it
And she keeps, she keeps bringing it up sometimes
And I'm just, it's sad, it's so sad
Oh God, can we get a Diet Coke?
Did she give you a spell that gave you weird nightmares
That made you shit yourself, sorry
She just does that sometimes
She saw train spotting and that was really it
That she just thought that was the funniest thing in the world
So our opening scene here, our pre-credit scene
Is the original three, Nancy, which is Froez-Balk
Bonnie, which is Neff Campbell and Rochelle,
who's Rachel True.
We're doing a spell here.
We're calling out ours is the power.
They've got the table set up here with all sorts of stuff on it.
Question here, was that a bag of weed that I spied on the table while the...
Probably incense of some kind.
No, there's smoking.
Okay, do it.
Listen, there's a rolled-up thing of sage.
There's candles.
There's all the stuff you expect, Steve.
And then just on that table, I'm fairly certain there's also just a compliment.
bag of weed.
Like a post-spell smoke sash or something?
Which is fun.
It's great.
Traditionally, though, you do expect there to be more red wine than weed with the witches.
That's generally what you think.
But I know.
I know it's a stereotype.
But that's what I was expecting here.
And I was like, oh, weed, I guess.
No, these witches be smoking.
Let me tell you, these witches be smoking.
Remember, kids, wait to your 21 or ask your parents permission.
No, don't ask them.
Don't ask you.
Wait to your 21.
We have the disclaimer we have to say that.
Sorry.
Okay, dad.
That's right.
I'm dad.
I'm Cliff DeYoung.
Yes, I always wanted to be Cliff.
Oh, dude.
Cliff Seeds deleted DeYoung.
Thank you.
What the hell's happening there?
I love Cliff Deion and he's not in this really.
He's barely in this.
And the parents are non entities besides for Ruzabalk's stepfather.
Fair figure.
Quite a situation there.
Eric, where did this Clifty?
Did this Clifty Young love come directly from him shitting him?
himself in the Hulk Hogan movie?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay, that wasn't where the spark came, okay.
No, no, no, no, he's, uh, the dude in, uh, what is that fucking wrestling movie?
No holds barred. No holds bar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did not. I, you know, what's funny, I didn't watch that movie
till we did it on the show. And I don't think I was even on that episode, but my love for
Clifty Young comes from Pulse. The movie where the house is, the house tries to kill everyone
through electricity or whatever. A very fun movie back in the
day and he always just appeared in random things that terrible
kefer sutherland dennis hopper movie he plays like a corrupt
oh flashback flashback and then he's in one of the he's in the substitute i think is
a similar that sounds correct yes i think he's he's also uh corrupt in that uh and that's the
thing is clifty young is just incredibly boring that's what i was kind of shocked that you're
i know i know i am slandering your your love here but i i do i find it
Dr. Giggles, for Christ's sake, Chris.
Well, he isn't Dr. Giggles.
That should prove it right there, that he didn't
take the lead.
Interesting Cliff DeYoung thing, by the way,
speaking of you guys saying that he's
boring.
He replaced Barry Bostwick as
Brad Majors in the ill-received
Rocky Horror Picture Show sequel, Shock Treatment.
Oh, boy.
I didn't even know that existed.
Precisely.
Yeah.
It ain't good.
I do love the opening credits though
We didn't talk about just there's that the fucking
The logo is great
The logo department really killed it
Thank you
That's what I was trying to fucking say before we went on this
Cliff de Young Jag
I just want to get him on the show
Reach out if you know him sure
Oh please it's fucking great
It's you know what it is Steve
It reminds me the old remember the old VC Andrews books
Like those like the paperback font on those books
You know flowers in the attic was
What the fuck was that movie in the attic
It's just a great
It's a great typography is what it is
Class A typography
That's like 2% of the reason
This movie works honestly
Yes
Not bad
It's a great soundtrack too
You got Arleigh
Yeah the soundtrack
Right at the top
Yeah
Tasty
I'm gonna say
This is a collection of
I would say mediocre covers
The good thing about this
Was that it did lead me
That did lead me
To like all the bands
That did the original
like I think I saw I bought the Smith's first record after seeing this because I liked this song so much and I was like I'm like oh wait this one's better oh my god this is so much better yeah the original's better yeah the original's better I've always found it funny that the like love spit love cover is also like the opening song for Charmed I was like someone watched the craft I guess yeah someone wants to get sued is what I was like wild sure
No, it's
this, rewatching it this time
I was like, oh,
this is a movie that actually
is like
not that great and doesn't reach its full
potential, but it has
like, as a movie, some sort of
weird charisma that it just like
makes it fun to watch.
Even though, like, honestly,
the lead character is the most
boring character with the least
interesting actress. She's such a
like, scold and like
wet rag that I'm like, I wouldn't want her in my coven either.
It's like, bitch, let's get nasty.
Who gives a fuck?
Like, we're teenage girls.
This is Robin Tunney as Sarah, the new girl, the school.
Wiggy the sentient wig as her wig.
Oh, my God.
A great turn by Wigie here.
Excellent job.
It's an unfortunate thing with this wig because, like, she had shaved her head for another
worse movie, Empire Records, and then went in to do this and still had the shaved head.
It's just Whig Town.
Man, that sucks.
It's so bad.
No, I think enough time has passed so that I can talk about it, Lauren.
I'm really, I'm happy that you're interviewing a wig because we don't usually get, we don't usually get a lot of notice.
But Robin Tooney was a nightmare.
I'm going to just say it right now.
She was a nightmare.
Every day, every day she just threw me around.
Just threw me on the flower.
The minute we were done, just right on the ground.
Andrew Fleming, bless the man.
He was so nice.
But this lady, she treated me like trash.
Yeah, and I was light as a feather.
What's her problem?
Why?
No, that wig looks heavy as fuck.
That is a bad wig on every crime.
It does deserve top billing over her, though, because it's more prominent than anything
she's doing in her performance.
I would say, with the exception of her, and she is, I do think she's kind of a boring
actress, or at least boring in this role.
I haven't watched The Mentalist, apologies.
But I do, like, you didn't watch any of the 100.
I've actually watched that show.
Most of it.
I have no idea why.
There was just this weird period where I was watching lots of like original TNT stuff or like, you know, like related, that sort of USA network fuck shit.
And I don't know.
Like I watched white collar and I was like, I'd be watching it and I'd be like, what are you doing this for?
And I'd still watch it.
Characters welcome at a gelatin
I took a summer and watched a few seasons
of psych couldn't tell you why
couldn't tell you thing about it now
never finished it never really gave
a shit it was just kind of on
yeah but if I was a reviewer
in the 90s I would be on the VHS
box of this and in quotation
it would say a hot young cast
because I do think that the cast itself
is what elevates the movie aside from
Robin Tini like oh yeah
for his block we just talked about Rachel
Trues very good in this
A young Neve Campbell is ready to burst out.
Skellrich, as a scumbag is good.
Even Breck & Meyer is a little bully that needs to meet his own end.
Oh, he needs to get his ass beat.
How does he not?
One of his first lines in the movie when he's like, they're like in the French class.
You know, like Sarah is getting used to the school and hasn't really found her groove.
And like, he's like saying such bad French is like, I can know.
I'm like, damn, bitch.
Like you shouldn't be allowed to go.
to France. Like, they'll donate you for that. And then, like, he, like, Sarah says something in French
and, like, actually puts an effort under her breath. And he says some shit, like, what did that
snail trail say to me? And I was like, oh, he's going to hell. He's going to hell. Also,
his character's name is Mitt, which is interesting. Yeah, Mitt. Oh, boy. Yeah, Mitt. Brackenmire
and it's Mitt. Double T there, dude? Like, like, according to the IMDB, I don't know if I ever heard it in
the motion picture, but that is a disturbing
name. By the way, Robin Tooney, just to
defend her slightly, it's a
boring character, it's sort of like a conduit
for the audience to view things.
Sort of like, I feel like they copied
it in a little bit of, like, for Twilight.
It's like this boring girl.
And I like Stewart as an actress,
but she's boring as dirt in that movie.
I have a question.
Are fucking incredibly hot
girls bullied in school? Because I don't think
like, these girls would be like, everyone's like,
holy shit.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of funny the politics of the school.
Usually with these school, like where the politics of the school and the dynamics of
the groups are important, they'd be fleshed out more.
But it's really only a few characters you pay attention to.
I mean, I've never seen a hot girl bullied.
Every school I went to, those hot girls were just fine.
Or doing the bullying themselves.
No, usually they were the bitches.
Usually they were really nasty.
And it's like, okay, like, calm down.
Like, you're hot in high school.
Good luck keeping that up, okay?
The hottest people like me become hot later.
Thank you.
Genetics, ancestors, and I don't know.
Well, people like me become snake guy.
I want to mention.
Snake guy.
Snake guy.
Oh, my God, that was so crazy.
I was like, what is this dude just rolling up with a snake?
Walking into someone's house, I found this outside.
You want it?
It's a fucking snake.
It's for you.
My hero has to chase him away.
He chases him out like a raccoon.
He's got a fucking fireboker.
Get out of you.
Get out of it.
It's so awesome.
That was my half of the corned beef from last night, wasn't it?
Yeah, he got it out of the trash, didn't he?
That fucker.
I love snake guy.
When I saw the snake guy, I was like, Eric's going to love snake guy.
He's just got Eric written all over him.
Yes.
Yes, he does.
That's going to be me very soon.
Also, on top of shooing him away, then Clifty Young assassinations that snake.
snake. He totally brings the
fucking hammer down on it and kills it.
We get snake POV for a second,
which is wild. Oh, totally.
Not so boring, now is he, Chris?
Yeah, because he kills snake.
Question about this house they move into, because we get the exterior
quite a few times here,
and we're filming inside this house.
Did anybody else notice this previous
episode? Is this the house also from
Poison Ivy with Drew Barrymore
and Tom Scarrant? I don't know. Entirely possible.
I want to go back to Poison Light, because I was
I don't think so.
I don't think so, though.
Because I watched Poison Ivy, actually somewhat recently.
Got it.
All right.
I don't know why that popped into my head for whatever reason I thought it might have been.
It was specifically the driveway, I think, is different.
Like, I feel like there's more like it's, like, you got a little bit of a garden going on in Poison Ivy.
I like the, I like the style.
I love that iron grade on a door.
You know, Giles has that in the Buffy and also Dylan McKay has that as well.
It's a cool California style thing to have.
Important characters
I'm not joking.
Don't laugh, bitch.
I'm serious.
I love motherfucking Giles.
Thank you.
Dylan McKay is hilarious.
He's hilarious.
But yeah, so we're in this French class, right?
And yeah, the good French, bad French is going on.
The teacher is asking Breck and Meyer like what he did over the weekend.
And he's like, oh, how do you say I got laid?
How do you say go to the principal's office?
How about get this kid adding?
here. Well, I think because they actually
brought in like a pervert Frenchman to teach
the class. And he's like, oh,
soft and blue. Let's talk
about if you got laid this weekend.
You're fired.
We'll be seeing you later.
Why were you talking to a student about this exactly?
It's clear that snail trail
guy is friends with this guy that's going to go up to her like,
I'm sorry about those guys. They're such
jerks. I mean, you cannot fall for this.
I know. Come on. That's my
problem with her. I'm like, you're kind of dumb.
Give me that power. She's a little stupid. Because he's so
obviously playing with her. And he, I mean, he literally
like within seconds of sitting down and they're talking about the girls,
he calls, he calls them bitches of Eastwick. And I'm like,
I was like, girl, run. He's already a little, he calls them bitches of
Eastwick. Then Nancy is like, like a slut, like
straight up that's how he describes her
of course not from experience
like he did which I was like
girl again like he's
basically saying yeah fucked her
probably several times
I do love that moment because he's
it's the three of them it's Rachel True
Neff Campbell and
Fruselbach's on the right
Neff Campbell's in the middle and Rachel
True is on the left he goes on the right
that's a slut right there in the middle
Nev Campbell yeah she got scars
all over her body and then he just
waits beat and then he goes
you got to stay away from me.
He does not say anything about Rachel True,
but you know he's just like,
and she's black, sorry, but you know, uh,
I mean, the problem with the movie and her character
is kind of like, that's the movie's like characterization for her,
which has always bothered me.
I always connected more with the Nancy character
because I was like she's actually kind of built out
as a character more than the other girls.
But I was reading on Wikipedia,
apparently the raw shell character
that Rachel True plays
was rewritten as black after she was cast,
and then they added the racism subplot.
And I was like, then they made that just her,
like, I definitely believe because of the Catholic school,
it is like probably moneyed and all those things,
that she would deal with, like, racism from people.
But what bothered me is it's like,
wait, y'all didn't think about anything else really for her character.
Like, she would have other things going on.
It's like they need, like, one more note with her care.
Get her on the fucking field hockey team.
anything.
Something.
She wants to dive, ladies and gentlemen.
Can't that be enough?
Oh, right.
I forgot. Yeah, she's on the fucking swim team.
Do.
Or something.
Maybe there's a big meat or something.
And I know it's the turn of the movie,
but like until the turn of the movie,
like she isn't even that, like,
she doesn't be pushed back that hard.
She's trying to be understanding with Ben Stiller's wife, right?
I'm right.
Christine Taylor, yes, yeah, yeah.
Christine Taylor as blonde racist.
I forget.
get her actual name in it. But yes, they're on
the dive team together.
Laura. I think
she was also credited as blonde racist
on hey dude.
And blonde racist
in the Brady Budge.
No.
Marsha was probably cool. I don't know.
Dude, like, you got all them
kids. One of them's going to be racist.
I don't know. That family was stuck in the past,
Steve. I don't know.
I was,
I do, but Rochelle,
as a character, is the one who, like,
like senses that
Sarah has power, you know what I mean, when they
meet, so she's got like something
to do, but to your point, yes.
So she's the one. Well, Bonnie
also knows, just back to the French class
for a second, Bonnie also knows before
any of them, because she sees her,
she's floating the, she's making
the pencil spin on the
desk, like she puts it, you know, like
a lead side down or whatever
and it's standing upright and she's making it twirl.
I think I have a new student from my school,
the Xavier School for
Mutants. Pencil girl. Come with me. Spinster, you'll be called. Oh, that's pretty good.
Listen, all we do is manipulate useless objects. Gambit has his playing cards and you have your pencils.
Don't focus on anything else. Just make things spin. It's fine. Just like people, if you can do that, oh man, you'll be in like Flynn. You'll be right next to Jubilee. We were calling her firework at first.
It would be funny, though, if, like, she could only do that with pencils.
He's like, okay, now pick up this huge iron rod and throw it with your mind.
I can only do pencils.
She can't even lift a pen.
It's pathetic.
Oh, electric pencils, get out of here, man.
Mechanical pencils can't even do that.
It's got to be a number two.
We'll call her number two.
Oh, that sounds purely familiar.
You will be the janitor.
So between French class and then in addition.
science class scene we know that
these three girls are looking for a
fourth to complete their circle as they
say and Bonnie Neve Campbell
is convinced she comes into the science lab
she's the one we have to recruit her and like
Farooza you know Nancy is like
the only one who's not immediately like
hey come over here or whatever she's like cold
ignores her it's very Nancy
and then this is the skeet hitting
on Sarah at lunch like
I'm just so sorry those guys are such
assholes
classic move by a douchebag.
We get the, she gets invited to watch the football practice.
And I love this, uh, Fruza coming up.
Oh, yeah, he spreads disease.
I speak from experience.
Oh, man.
Chris Hooker.
Oh, yeah.
It's like kind of pathetic, though, that she is watching.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's like, you can tell when the girls roll up.
They're like, really?
If you're his long-term girlfriend, even that would be like, oh, man,
better to do.
But, like, this guy's like, hey, watch me fucking fucker.
Watch me do something.
Like, I don't know, watch me do my chores for an hour.
Usually, they want you to, like, like, like the guy at first.
Like, there's some effort put into being like, this guy's kind of, he's kind of charming.
He kind of, like, is paying attention.
He's being nice.
There's all this stuff.
And, like, even, I suppose that's what you're, he's kind of doing in that scene on
during lunch.
but like it didn't
it all registered as creep to me
all of it registered as creeps
there's no like oh my God
he's at least like sweet to her
no it's not even that
I wonder if this movie would be better
one thing I found out was that
they really did
pulled every punch they could on purpose
to get a PG-13 rating
but because it was
it was four girls during witchcraft
it was never going to happen
you know what is this pilgrim shit
fucking country we live in
but I wish to go the other way
and actually leaned into the horror
If this is a horror movie, it would be a much better movie.
Like, you know what I mean? If Nancy kills like three people, you know what I mean?
All the bullies, one at a time kind of asshole. You know what I mean? Like, now we've got a movie.
Breck and Meyer must die. I know. It's weird he gets like no blowback at all from them because he's like an asshole like in every scene.
He just gets horny for Nev Campbell. That's like the last time I see him, I'm pretty sure, is him being like, oh man, she's wearing a more a shirt with more skin show.
showing. Wow. Okay, that brings up an interesting point about this movie. Like, they're at the
football, watching football practice moment. Nev Campbell, like, there's this really interesting
exchange where, like, Fruza Balk says he comes onto anything with tits. And then Neff Campbell's
character says, except me. Like, she's supposed to, like, feel, look, having, like, burns guards,
that is major. But you would think they're, like, on her face? Yes. And I'm like,
No, you're still hot.
You just, like, and I totally get why her character would feel some sort of way about it.
Sure.
But it's like when, like, later in the movie, when like, you know, things are changed for her, it's like, oh, my God, whoa, she's so hot.
And I'm like, she's just wearing a tighter shirt.
It's the same, it's the same exact look, except the shirt's a little tighter, there's a little more shoulder, and she washed her hair.
Because that's the other thing.
She's just got really grody, greasy hair.
Greaseball.
Two-thirds of the movie.
off a sweater and that equals hot
it's like taking off the glasses on
an attractive girl who's playing the nerd
Neff Campbell with fucking burn scars what's that
a 9.5 out of 10? Like what are we talking
here? Please. That's
a Milwaukee 20.
No, I mean
like she has already been picked up
by like the hottest book reader
in that high school. Yeah, exactly.
The guy who keeps on telling
everybody how he's halfway through Moby Dick
he has locked her down
a long time ago. Yeah, she's in a
serious relationship is my guess. Yeah, it's wild. They go to, they go shopping now because it's like,
let's go, we get a five-finger discount. These are bad girls. These are so naughty. But here's the
thing, here's the thing about this fucking horse shit, this five-finger discount. Like, okay, if you're
going to like a coconuts or an F.Y or whatever, you're going stealing fucking cassette tapes and
CDs. That's your five-finger discount. You're going to a fucking witchcraft supply store and
stealing from one of your own. Fuck this shit. But not only that.
it's clear it's one of those stores and I hate these stores the second you go in it's not even a shoplifting thing like hi how can I help you no one's here how's it going you know what I mean like you are just being walked and talked that entire time so she deserves to be stolen from Steve that's what you're saying no no it's impossible to steal from that lady because she's looking at you the whole time unless you use magic but she knows these girls you know she knows these girls are up to no good you know magic store by the way reminded me very much Giles's little magic story it looks kind of the same too yeah
I mean, because they all kind of do.
Like, if you've been in them, like, you know,
candles, it smells really good in there.
You know, it's not the brightest of lighting, you know.
Not quite enough crystals.
I know it's a, I would feel like I would be surrounded more by crystals in this situation.
And this woman would definitely ask these girls to be part of a book group or some kind of breathwork class possibly.
Oh, there is an over-stuck, a pinboard.
Like, I'm not kidding you.
Like, thick.
with old, like,
holes things, old concert
things. It is taking up most
of that sidewall. Guitar lessons? Yes,
please. Oh, my God.
By the way, on the way to the shop, we get a little more
about our lead character. Sarah
here about the suicide attempt,
which is punk rock, we're told.
Uh-huh.
Well, Carusa's very impressed that she
slit down instead of a cross.
I believe the line is like, you did it the right way
or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. That weirdly comes up
in a lot of 90s movies. It comes up. I watched
Bringing Out the Dead recently, and
like, someone was like, no, no, no, I think it's
Nick Cage. He's like,
you go down, you go down, you know. Like, they really
wanted you to know how to fucking slit your wrist
in the night. Totally. Kids, this is
Nick Cage for suicide.
Here's how you do it.
Very strange.
Let's go. Also, I get
a movie for teen girls to be like, hey,
here's a great idea. Let's make sure
they know how to do it. It's like,
just in case you're also,
incredibly depressed, which would make sense
because you're a teenage girl.
Here's how to get out of life.
If only they could have staged a fake funeral,
like in the great movie Empire Records to show her.
What a lawsuit.
God damn it.
But anyway, the big thing of this scene is
the shopkeep gives her a book called The Craft.
And she says,
you know, she's like, well, I don't know anything about this,
blah, blah, blah.
And the lady's like, I got a feeling about you.
Maybe you're a natural witch.
No, or a mutant.
actually. I think that might be it.
But I guarantee she says this natural
witch to anyone that walks into that story.
Yeah, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Oh, I sense your aura.
Wow, you're, you might be too powerful for this book.
It's $299, by the way. You might be too powerful
for it. I don't know if I should tell it to you.
I'm sorry if I divert my gaze, but it's just
the power is just too much.
You know, you should
this book and this book and this book and also this huge crystal.
We should all have this.
But here comes snake guy again.
He is nothing if not persistent.
I love him.
Hey, I know you.
I have another snake for you.
In my dream, you were dead.
Thank you.
Dude.
Killer opening line, dude.
I cannot wait to chase a high school girl, y'all in that.
Well, that's a classic, how do you open?
In my dream, you were dead.
That's how you opened, man.
This would work on me.
this is some
primo
excellent dummy work we have here
because this guy starts having to freak out
and you start to glean like
oh we're maybe using some witch powers here
some witch influence
and this dude runs out into the street
and just gets popped by this truck
and you see this dummy go under the wheel
oh he went under the wheel dummy
under the wheels
you see the head like
like bounce and I was like
this is cinema
Listen, we already got the R rating.
Let me see like a spray of blood.
A little wetter.
It could be a little wetter, I got to say.
Dry death for snake.
Yeah, like, give me a little, like, squit.
A little pop.
That's all I need is a little pop.
Maybe something really grisly on the soundtrack.
That's fine.
Good call, Chris.
Those poor snakes, now they have no father.
They're orphans.
Snake Daddy is dead.
My baby!
They killed Snake Daddy.
we're orphans
Batman's just watching them all from the side
like wow
oh their master's gone
oh wow I didn't kill this one
no I didn't do this one sorry guys
so they go to a little bit of a hideout here
they're hanging out in the empty lot
from they live it sort of looks like
right across the street is like the church
that Rowdy Roddy Piper is doing surveillance
on in that movie
it's got a similar Donnie Darko
we're shooting cans vibe you know what I mean
Yep, exactly.
And then this is where we learned about Manaw,
who they worship, and they explain sort of like
if God and the dis is, I thought this is actually kind of a cool line
and actually sort of spelled out what they were trying to say
pretty successfully.
They're basically like, if God and the devil were fighting one another,
Manaw would be the stadium that they battled in,
which is a pretty cool idea.
Alternate idea, Manon is the devil with a beret on his head.
Hello, it's Manon.
Oh, my God.
Is that what Mordecai's about?
He's Manon.
So instead of goat legs, he's got frog legs?
Uh-huh.
And a mustache.
It's weird, though.
I mean, we're saying Manor.
And she's like, him, him, him.
Manol is a girl's name.
Well, it's a made-up thing.
Excuse me?
I understand, but Manaw is a French name given to little girls.
But the witchcraft is very real, Steve, sorry.
I'm aware.
Yeah, okay.
We sort of talk about like, can Mano tempt you with some chakrouterie?
I like this version better.
I would love some cheese and wine.
Would you sell yourself for some escargo?
No, actually, I wouldn't.
But maybe some nice orange.
Worcesters.
I could do that.
Hi.
Come on down to my nose.
You, instead of a pitch fork, I've got that little escargo fork.
There you go.
I'm barking you in the afterlife is a specialty fork to poke you in the afterlife.
Don't be so surprised I smell this much like garlic.
Now I want some fucking escargo.
Hell yeah.
so Sarah talks about
you know like weird things that happen to me
you know she says that she accidentally makes
pipes burst in her house and you know
when she gets tired of hearing her parents fighting
or whatever she makes herself go deaf for three days
and things like that
you can see the other three girls like
oh she's the fucking real deal
like if she's not lying to us she is the real deal
because we can't do any of that shit
yeah this could also be the nudality code in Mortal Kombat
though this is high school people make
up shit all the fucking time.
Oh, my God, all the time.
That's all high school kids do.
Make fun of adults and lie.
I'll bring the spell in tomorrow.
But then they have the hilarious.
They do the calling the spirit here.
And it's just let Manaw fill you.
Let Manor fill you right up.
Fill me, Manor.
Let Manor touch you in your spirit.
I like this.
Four pretty young girls for Manor.
Manon needs a cigarette
Menon needs to sit down
He's very tired
So she then Sarah
Because this is like I haven't chosen my friend group yet or whatever
Sarah goes to hang out with Chris Hooker for a little bit here
Big mistake
And he's, dude, this is again
Man Chris Hooker
You know what's gonna get this girl going
Let's talk about phrenology a little bit.
He's like, oh, he's like, oh, what's the deal with all these big-headed bitches at this school?
And you're just like, dude, you think this is, oh, she's kissing you.
Okay, well, it actually worked then, Chris Hooker.
Good job.
I was like, this is bargain basement ass flirting.
Like, what?
He's not even like, you know, there can be like a certain, you know, when you're a teenager and you're like, oh, you know, this guy is saying.
dumb shit, but he's kind of cute and charming.
There's none of that charm.
There's no...
No. Where's the skate? The smile.
Like, the ski o'erk smile, it's barely there.
Like, it's just...
Your friend's got a big head. It looks like a Saint Bernard, but you got a good one.
A good head for kissing.
Maybe we can kiss.
He's just reading racist texts with Christine Taylor and spout and spout and it back out at her.
Like, I don't get it.
You know, under that wig, you got a pretty head.
Oh, I'm sorry.
under your natural
actual hair
which is very nice.
Yes, they do start making out a little bit
here. Chris's friends leave
including Christine Taylor, so the two of them
are all alone. He's like, oh, hey, my
parents aren't home. Let's go back to my
house. She doesn't want to. And of course
because this guy's been an asshole
the entire time, even when he's faking it
here, Sarah
goes into school the next day, and
he's already told everybody
she's a terrible fucking lay,
this, that, the other thing, and it's gone around.
you know like wildfire
uh fuck you nah
nah nah
and then she's like getting choked up
of course breck and myer again he needs
to meet it on he goes if she's gonna cry
I'm gonna cry and like he's doing like a fake
like lady voice here and I'm like
this guy needs to wake up covered in snakes
like that's what this movie does
I've actually already fantasized
last night about what his death would be
oh please it's insane because this character
needs to die
and I think I agree
like if it was a horror movie
this is one of the dudes
that would be like extra body count
but like you have so many scenes
in the science class right
just have one where it's like
now you'll hook your gas line up
to the Bunsen burner
this way Breckenmeyer
and then we use some witchcraft
and all of a sudden there's flames
in this dude's face
and it's fucking hereditary
and he's on fire and it's awesome
I just have him consumed
by an anaconda like snake
that's all you gotta do
is get him right down the gullet
It's Breckenmeyer. Garden Snake will do.
That's true. I mean, look.
You want to excite people, though, Eric.
I mean, that's how are you going to make that cinematic?
Skeet Ulrich with the fucking the worst line here,
because she's like, you know, why'd you lie about me, blah, blah, blah.
And then he sort of like backs out to speak louder.
And he is just like, please stop begging.
It's pathetic.
I'm not going to go out with you.
Yeah, Borafil over here.
I love it.
Yeah, great.
We cut to swim practice, and this is the first instance of seeing Christine Taylor be a fucking huge piece of shit because Rochelle's up about to do a dive.
And, like, she just screams shark and this poor girl fucking belly flops into the pool.
I will say, I agree with you that she needs more, but I do appreciate that the movie puts a hat on it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I think a more cowardly movie would be like, you get it.
Like, no, I kind of want, I kind of want to see this person actually be racist to do a piece of thing.
Yeah, and she's racist.
She says, like, she's, like, looking at her brush, like, after swimming,
and they're, like, you know, just getting ready to go.
And Christine Tamer's character is, like, is that a pubic hair?
Yeah.
Oh, no, that's just one of Rochelle's little nappy hairs.
I was, like, a white person saying the word nappy.
Ooh, I'm sorry.
If I was Rochelle, I'd be like, oh, word.
I was like, let me call it my black girl friends
who go to other schools.
We're jumping this bitch after school.
Because you know, you know, if you put two black girls in a room,
this girl is going to like fold so quick.
I love the phrase jumped.
It's just one of the, it's something I was terrified
of growing up in the Bronx.
I was never jumped, but it was always the fear of being jumped.
At any time.
It could happen any time.
Yeah, if you say, I think if, just saying the word nappy,
I feel like, oh, if there's a water glass,
nearby, it starts boiling.
Like things just like, it's just
something's wrong. It's a curse
in, if you're white and saying that. It's demonic.
It's not good. It's like, you know, there's certain
well, you don't, y'all don't know because
you're white, but there's certain words
as a black person that are like these dog
you're just like, oh, this is,
they want to say the N word, but they
know if they do this, like, such a line cross, so they'll
like find other ways. Well, I know a few of those
words. It's, it's woke, D-E-I.
Yeah. Of course.
Well, this line made me think of the most, I think, infamous public usage of it was that fucking rest and piss Don Imus when he was talking about, it was like a college basketball team or something.
He would call them nappy-headed hoes.
Good God.
On the radio, on the fucking radio.
He got trouble in the late 1990s, which means a lot.
Today he would get a medal of presidential medal of freedom.
the ambassadors of entertainment he'd be one of them i think exactly with sly and the uh who's the other one
yeah yeah johnny boy yeah oh man i feel like we're kind of like burying the worst one though because rachel like comes
around the corner like they're at like you know mirrors that are like back-to-back or vanities or whatever
countertops and she comes around the corner and she's like why did you do that and dude i forgot that this line
in the movie.
And it's tough.
Christine Taylor, goo.
I think it's better to, I mean,
she should also die, by the way,
not just the hair thing.
This is now you die.
She's driving her, like,
daddy's car, the brakes don't work
kind of a deal.
Huge car explosion.
We're gonna live forever.
Wow.
That would be so fucking great.
Because, I mean, saying the,
like, she says negroid or something.
Yes.
You're like, damn, you're becoming an old school
races but you're like like lost cause south nasty ass races and it's just like where the what the
fuck is going on in your house at home oh dude yeah it's it's getting slug around the dinner table
for sure this plus an old granny in the corner knitting saying that word over and over again she
didn't fucking learn it watching v h1 i'll tell you that here here's my copy of the turner diaries
you're going to want this and also here is the personal writings of ted nugent and here
Here's those for you, too.
Merry Christmas, sweetheart.
You know who'd never use that word, Manon?
He would never use that word.
He would never.
He loves black people.
I have much worse words.
Everyone is welcome at Monon's.
Come on, everyone.
I may be an evil devil villain, but I would never sling racist shit like that.
So we get a little taste of what's going on in some of their lives here.
Nev Campbell goes to the hospital.
where Dr. Sue Ellen Mischke from Seinfeld
is doing this experimental procedure on her scar tissue
and this just looks like this lady's putting her under a fucking sewing machine
like I don't know what this treatment is supposed to do
and the movie doesn't know either
like Sue Ellen Mishke is just like
so this is a super experimental treatment
by the way it's going to hurt like a motherfucker
and I don't know if it's going to work at all
are you ready?
Poking scars with needles to make little holes in it
Then it falls off in a few weeks.
Manlo is going to get her in the New England Journal of Medicine, by the way,
because this shit does not work, but dark magic saves her.
She's like, look at my bullshit treatment.
It worked.
Yep.
I'd like, you know, she's like screaming and Sue L. Mishki is like, oh, just a little bit longer,
a little bit longer.
And then the mother, who I kept thinking was the lady from sleepaway camp, but I don't think it is.
No, she just looks a lot like her.
Yeah.
But this mother just like, well, I don't know.
No, and she's the doctor, and she said we should...
And, like, this woman is just, like, suffering on this medical table.
It's a very bizarre scene.
They call it gene therapy.
I don't know what that is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
What's going on in this hospital?
Yeah, I feel like Franklin Gellis should be offering you a box at some point with this shit.
Like, there's just too much demonic stuff.
Like, I would like to see more of that.
Like, that's why the horror thing makes more sense is, like, get more into that.
Get more images like that.
It's like, this is way too much, like, yeah.
we're shopping and we're having fun and we're having snacks we're just having some
a sleepover here we're just going to have a sleep over and we're witches I do think that the
girl hanging out stuff in the movie is pretty accurate I agree I mean you can tell a lot
was cut out like they're watching be witch for a second I guarantee you it's a snappy snap
90s scene about talking about bewitched oh no because this wasn't written by Kevin
Williamson so that didn't happen that's true but like yeah they're just kind of hanging
out like you know that they're talking behind their mother's back they're giggling it just it's very
lived in in the in the like i don't know teenage space i i agree like i actually think it it gets a
certain aspect of what it's like to feel like you found your girls as a teenage girl like this
excitement this energy you know like you want to like push limits with each other um there should be
more making out, though, between the
Because that's like a big part of it.
Yep, that's my, you know what?
Every time I turn it off this movie, I'm like, where was the kissing?
If I had a letterbox in the year of 1996,
it would be 10 out of 12 of my reviews.
Why didn't they kiss?
What the fuck am I doing here?
The first reviewer to be banned from letterbox.
Every review is like, why weren't they kissing?
Another, I mean, another thing about like how this movie
it totally like kicks
Rochelle to the curb, right? Because like we have
this three quick scenes of their
home life and I guess the edit
thought like, well we just had
Rochelle at swim practice and then Rochelle in the
locker room so we don't need to see what
her life is like but you have
like Nev outside of school doing
something. You have
you know Nancy, this is where we're introduced
to her home life
and she lives in the leaky trailer and the
it's not a stepdad. It is just
fucking mom's boyfriend.
Big time
scumbag guy, mom's boyfriend
This dude is from the breakfast club
He's the janitor
By the way
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I've seen him in a few things
But like again, like
When this guy does meet his maker
And he does
And I just like
How could you do that
And not make it a big spectacle
Like this is a common thing
Throughout this movie
Where I'm just like
These are big moments
And you're just kind of like
Yeah, that happened
Well, there's got like
Chris Farley fall over
No, that also yes
But, like, honestly, like, his actual heart explodes.
Like, the chest explosion.
I did appreciate the ambulance ride, though, and Fruzob's eyes, like, willing him to die.
Mm-hmm.
So we have a thing where, like, come on, Sarah, we're going to take a field trip today.
And before them cut class and get this bus ride going out to the outskirts of town or wherever.
And I love this line right here.
They get off the bus, and this fucking bus driver is like, oh, careful.
ladies, there's all these weirdos out there
and Nancy turns around and goes,
we are the weirdos, mister.
It's a fucking awesome line that I believe is in the trailer.
That sold so many rentals for weird girls.
Like, thank you, someone said it.
I went to saw this in the theater, probably because of that line.
Ooh, nice.
You remember much about the screening, packed house?
I don't really remember much about the screening,
but I do remember me and my brother going.
Right, right.
I saw it with my dad
very, I'm sure my dad was
very entertained. Was he like Clifty Young
at all during this?
No, he was more of the, you know,
a couple of rolling rocks
into, so probably not paying too much attention.
Pure dad mode, I love it.
Yes, yeah, you know, not paying too much
attention to what's going on screen.
And so we've got a thing
going on now where we're doing a spell
here, earth air, fire, and water.
Here you go, Chris Cabin. Here's your fucking
red wine, this blood cup.
let's all bleed into this cup
and then put red wine in it
That better not be from California
That's not gonna get man on nothing
It's gonna be from France
And they all like make little requests
For Menon
And like again
Sarah being pathetic doesn't she put down a picture
of Skeet Ulrich and it's like
I know this is like kind of crazy
And you know Nancy's like
Girl like are you trying to tell me to go fuck myself?
I don't know
care if we do need her. She's out.
I can't deal
with this. Like, this motherfucker
is invading. I have to look
at this fucker again. I know.
It's not even like, I want warts on his dick, and I want
him to bleed in the shower. Like, that's
I want him to like me.
Oh, get out of town.
I want him, I want this, like,
whack version of Skid Ulrich
to like me. I'm pathetic.
My name's Sarah. I wear a wig.
And I'm the lead, God damn.
but this is where
because the movie from here on out
kind of becomes
not entirely but it is a little bit
of a monkey's paw
be careful what you wish for kind of shit
so this is where the girls all make
their individual wishes
we're not calling them wishes but it's what we're doing the spell
for and so yeah it's like I want
Skeel Ulrich to love me
Nev Campbell's like I want to be beautiful
uh Rochelle
I think she wishes the thing
about shitty racist
Christine Taylor and then
fucking Nancy taking it to the hole
she's just like, I want the fucking power
of a man all inside me, all of it, give me
everything. All right, man. And someone's
just like, uh, okay.
Well, that's a, uh,
this is such fucking, uh,
I wish for unlimited
wishes. Like that's what this
is. Like, it's such
bullshit. Like, what's, I get out.
Just fucking kick her out. Like, what's
the fucking point? She's lame anyway.
It's like the thing that
Some people do on Thanksgiving.
Let's go around what we're thankful for.
And a lot of people are like, oh, my job, my wife, or whatever.
I'm just thankful for the people.
And I'm like, come on, God damn it.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, keep it to keep it within your life.
Don't go big on me.
So we go back to school here.
They know that like the spell may have worked because some butterflies come down.
They're like, oh, men all hurt us.
Look at that.
So we go back to school and here's Chris Hooker in French class.
Looking back at Sarah repeatedly.
And this is when, I mean, like, we just did the movie Wish Spot.
I forgot how much that movie was ripping off the craft.
Because this actually, note for note happens in that movie.
The love spell, yeah.
I want him to, I want him to, you know, love me and blah, blah, blah,
to the point where it turns violent later in the movie.
And now he's just like what happens here.
He's just following Sarah around this chapel and Breck and Myers scoring points of him,
calling him Stepford Boy.
Uh-huh.
It is a funny thing where, like, they make him walk into the church, you know, carrying their books, and it's like, oh, come on, come sit with us, man. What are you doing? And he's just, like, standing there frozen and just to be like, sit the fuck down. Like, he's such in, like, a weird zombie kind of mode. It's kind of funny.
Make him stupid, Manon. Manon, Manon, make him an idiot.
I can't turn water wet. What am I supposed to do that already happened?
And you get a shot here, Farooza, Nancy, none too, please.
She sees that Sarah's spell is clearly working.
She has not been imbued with the powers of the Almighty, and she's very raw about it.
It's such an interesting seed.
Rochelle says like a wild-ass line where she's like, you know, Nancy storms off.
Because I think it's also the movie's trying to build, like, a jealousy that Nancy feels towards Sarah.
Oh, yeah.
you know why is manon like fucking you but he doesn't come and fuck me that's the energy
but like rochelle says like they're like someone's like oh like what's up with nancy and
rachel says i don't think she wants to be white trash anymore and i like told her you're white
honey deal with it it's funny i was like this is actually a great this is hilarious
because it also it gives it gives her and again it's just kind of how people and friend groups
talk shit behind these backs right you know
what I mean? Like that's kind of what she's doing. It gives her more power of a character
because I think the problem also later is like both Bonnie and Rochelle just become cheerleaders
for Nancy. Exactly. It just kind of just robs them of any characterhood. It absolutely,
it's one of the biggest problems I have with the script is like they lose all agency and they
just become like her two like doting dunn's sidekicks. And you're like, okay, like I know
Rochelle wasn't that greatly built of a character, but she was better than this 20 minutes.
minutes ago. So that turn that
happens, I don't, I don't care for it. They turned it to
Kathy and Jimmy and fucking Sarah Jessica Parker
and, uh, uh, what's that movie?
Pocus, Pocus. Thank you for
you. Uh, so this is, uh, we get, the next scene is
the Lotties of Feathers, Stiff as a Board
bit here.
Classic sleepover maneuver. Is that right? You're doing a lot of
lighties of feather sleep as stiff as a board scene? No, but I feel like that's
something kids did, right? Yeah, like, we were all
trying to do like spells and shit. Like,
okay we're totally going to craft it up right here and it's like well that didn't happen
and to the mad the you know the sort of making out point earlier in the movie
fruzebalk says i love a woman in uniform and everyone's ears perk up like pardon me and then
later in this scene they're like all right take your fingers and stick them here and then
yeah she does the hook and she goes stick them where and i'm like what it's going out of the
sleepover excuse me the best part about that too is the way
Bonnie and
Rochelle react, which is
I read it as
that's not the first time she's
made some kind of comment like that
and they're like, oh man, here she
goes again with the fingering stuff.
It's not happening. Someone tell her
it's not going to happen. No, like, you know what?
Let it happen, girls.
Right. You know, like, I don't know what happened
to men with fingering. It's like
some fell off. Something's not
happening at the men factory and
they're not learning how to finger
Oh, the men factory?
That place went out of business.
We had to start a business together.
Open to fingering school.
Honestly, you would be helping so many people out.
Because I'm like, like, for who's a bulk?
I was like, yeah, that's technique.
She's letting them know, like, hey, if you want to, you know.
There's like, come on down to digits where we'll teach you how to finger.
You've heard of finishing schools.
This is a fingering school.
Which also can then result in finishing.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
headmaster, Dr. Manam.
Yes, he's French.
Yeah, cut him putting on a giant latex glove.
Oh, my God.
So they do this and it works.
Rochelle's, you know, they lift her up,
but then she starts floating above the ground with no hands on her.
And I really love, it's like when, um,
you see someone usually in television and movies,
like, uh, get hypnotize.
and it's that classic like
it's not even working
you know like she has that like
she's floating fucking three feet off the floor
and she's like guys this isn't even working
and then the mom comes in and fucks it up
and she falls on her back
hard are you girls getting high
good lines for this moment
yeah very nice honestly
I kind of you know
I know that it's
these ladies you know they are focused
because they are like in this moment
I of course if this had happened to me
if a bunch of guys are doing this to me,
I find out I'm floating.
I'm screaming at the top of my lungs
and I'm like slamming into the ground immediately.
Like the fact that they can all keep that focus for so long,
I was like, I don't know if teenagers would do that necessarily.
But you know what?
It's a nice image.
Let's go with it.
Chris Cabin, total coward.
I know.
I was like, what a bitch baby.
I think it'd be pretty cool.
It would be.
I'd love it.
We get a little montage of them, you know, sort of hanging, getting closer.
It ends with, oh, it's all two letters to Cleo doing Dangerous type, by the way.
The montage ends with Sarah walking down the hall and ripping part of, by the way,
Christine Taylor's character's name is Laura Lizzie.
Got it.
We rip off a piece of Laura Lizzie's hair here, and she's like, ow!
And it's a great, like, sorry, I thought I saw a bug.
Which is great.
and then it cuts immediately to Sarah tying her hair
into Rochelle's hair
while Bonnie's doing this like
Take My Scars chant
like trying to bring home her thing here
but then we get to swim class
uh oh Christine Taylor
uh oh uh oh
hair starts falling out yeah that's what happens
That is actually what happens
White people listen up
You know what you say the N word
Some weird ass physical shit's gonna happen
It's literally our black-ass ancestors being like, what you get?
Sorry.
And then immediately the coach will be like, oh, she has athletic talent.
Weird.
I had her on the team.
I don't know why, but now I see.
Okay, okay, she's good.
Great.
That's why I feel like there has to be all of this deleted Rochelle shit where she becomes
like the swim team superstar because Christine Taylor's hair starts falling out like
on the bench and she's freaking out or whatever.
The fucking coach does come over like, all right, let me see.
It ain't that bad.
then Rochelle does like a perfect dive
and you see the guy like
say
as in like
cool new prospect here
for the team that's the last
that's the last fucking dive of the movie
ladies and gentlemen they could have led up to some
big match she could have done the triple
Lindy and yeah that's what you got to do
baby man on will get you to qualify
for the Lebex
man on will get you
to qualify for the Rodney
Dangerfield movie remake
I wish
I love a good triple Lindy, man.
They should put, triple Lindy should be in the Olympics.
Like, let's get the triple Lindy.
Yeah.
You know.
That's hard.
Just jumping into the water.
That's easy.
Triple Lindy.
I got a gold medal in the triple Lindy at the Olympics.
How cool is that?
So then Bonnie, of course, goes to the doctor.
We're getting the bandages removed here.
And this is, yeah, they just scrape off perfectly.
Sue Ellen Mishki, like, can't even believe it.
She's like,
boy I knew for a fact that wasn't going to work but it's working are you trying to take my money or something is this a scheme is this a scheme did I get did I trap are you guys pulling the wool of my eyes what's going on here this never that was fake what I did was just fake this just like this doesn't make any sense I just wanted to torture teenage girls so I said that I could do this yeah this whole clinic is a total con I built that syringe machine that shoots it into your back I built that in my garage I did the doctors don't make these things it was really
It was rusty. It was rusty.
It's an old tattoo needle.
There's no blood. There's no even no blood.
It's just coming. All right. All right.
So these all come quick.
So like Bonnie's back, you know, is totally cleared.
You know, she goes back into school.
All the boys, this is the jaw dropping.
Oh, she looks the same, but I guess not.
She's an F. Campbell now?
Quick objection here as someone who went to Catholic school for 12, 13 years.
These are not uniforms.
and it bothers me
because they're allowed to wear
like t-shirts sometimes.
It's fake.
Exactly.
Like you need to have like
it's the uniform
is uniform
you understand
and you're not allowed
to just kind of wear like
just white the skirt
it's kind of have like
you know stuff to it.
Anyways, that's all.
Yeah, it's got to have stuff to it for sure.
It does indeed.
Everyone wears the same button shirt.
Yeah, every day
hence it's a uniform
hence the crippling
nature of Catholic school I am.
Precisely.
But there is always, like, the casual,
there's always casual kid, though.
In these movies and television shows,
there's always casual girl, casual guy.
That gets you detention.
I got fucking yelled at for wearing jeans
on Dressdown Day, for fuck's sake.
Really?
Wait, wait, what would have been appropriate
on Dressdown Day if not jeans?
Yeah.
Not jeans, not jeans,
khakis, apparently.
I'm like, Christ, wait, what, cackies?
And then what, a different color button down?
Exactly.
Could you, could they be?
be baggy at least?
Yeah, yeah, they weren't too worried about it.
Oh, okay.
The tightness, you understand.
Okay.
That's actually, you just made me think, though, Steve,
that's actually a funny thing from the beginning of the movie.
I guess you know right away that this school has a lax policy because the first day of school,
like, Cliff DeYoung's driving her and he's like, hey, like, we just moved in.
Like, don't you want to, like, at least wait until your uniform gets delivered before you go into school?
And she's like, no, it's fine.
And, like, she, no detention there.
She goes right in.
Absolutely.
no way no fucking way
this is the this is the line though
when uh because nancy's pissed off
about all the boys you know
ogling Bonnie and
this is the I think she wished not to be
white trash yes
which we go home I mean immediately like the hits
keep on coming we go home
the boyfriend's being a fucking scumbag
you know and then he starts
getting rough oh he starts looking
like he's touching yeah
touching like her her robe or whatever
and trying to get a look at the daughter
And then it's like, I'm not her father.
The father's the one who paid 50 bucks for a quick bang in the back seat.
Yeah.
Wow.
And the mother's like, I'll leave her alone.
Why don't you?
As opposed to like getting out of the house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, you know, Farooza, Nancy.
There we go.
So then Nancy just kind of gives the old fucking evil eye.
And this dude has to take a seat from all the young.
because his heart is exploding
inside his chest. And now is it because
she attacked his heart or the microwave
explodes and that man, I know
a man that's reliant on the
microwave and this guy looks like it.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's a hungry
man. That man has had hungry man's
every day of his life. Oh, I better
die. Where else am I going to eat
up my burritos now? Exactly.
Better die. Heart
attack yourself. Please. Thank you.
I really did like that.
much like trailer trash Roger Klotz
and the brought back version of Doug
where he was rich for no reason
Hank had an insurance policy here
175K that
he I guess left to this woman
that's very surprising that they're entitled to this money
that is surprising
but all I kept thinking
especially as they like two seconds later
are starting to blow all this money
I was like yes it's not going to last that long
Like, I was like, I know that's like a step up, but like, you all still need to get like jobs.
Like you can't.
I was like, what?
You're forgetting that we don't have, like now we have the articles where they're like, if you're going to win the lotto, don't do this.
Or if like, if you do get hair, it's like, this was all from aggregate.
At the point, that point, we didn't know about all this shit.
Like people were just spending all their money immediately.
And like, 175,000.
It's not even that much.
That's not jukebox money
No way
She's got this jukebox
That's an expensive piece
A vintage piece
Here's the thing
It's 100%
Jukebox money
If you're not buying a fucking
Pennhouse apartment
To put it in
It has to be a rental
You can do one of the other
You just inherited
$175,000
You can get $500 and buy
a real nice jukebox
But this fucking apartment is wild
I did the inflation calculator
today, that'd be
350 grand.
It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of money, yes.
But not again, like,
yes, like, I mean, like, yeah, if you,
I guess you could just buy the jukebox and put it in their rain camper.
And that's it.
Yeah.
But I really, I doubt you could get this apartment.
It has to be a rental.
But then the Connie Francis jukebox, this is,
this is a custom thing.
Yeah, that's, you're shaving, you're shaving, you know,
two bills off already, you know?
Yeah.
I'm like, there's no, I was,
I was like, no, invest, like, pay off your debt, put the rest in savings, and then, like, find a decent apartment to rent.
Sure.
Or just get a fucking, buy a modest ranch outside the city limits.
How about that?
You know, a little ranch style split-level house or something?
But I do, I would also be surprised, because we get two scenes with this guy, and I would assume whatever money he had was going to his favorite gun salesman.
that's where all that was being shipped to
but yeah he's he's dead
they have all the girls over
and this is where we get
the glamour thing right
yeah
before we get to that
because we I just want to call out
in this apartment because like
it's a huge like penthouse
like all that stuff
there's like not that much furniture in it yet
but there is the ugliest
fucking couch I've ever seen in my life
it's bad
Dude, it's awful.
And of course then, the mother is like,
well, look at this awesome couch I bought.
And you're like, yeah, you bought it, didn't you?
Oh, my God.
I have to go back and watch the movie again to see this couch.
I forgot it.
It's one of those swirling ones that it looks really uncomfortable,
almost like a daybed, more of a day bed than a couch, I would say.
Okay.
But I do love the mother.
It's just like, are we having a housewoman party?
And they slam the door on her face.
That's how you do it.
That's how you do it.
But yes, this is talking about doing glamour spells and Sarah changes her eye color.
She's like, my eyes are brown.
See?
They're normally green.
And they're like, that's not very impressive.
Contest can do that.
Yeah, she changes her hair color here.
A lot of, I feel this is probably a lot of special effects technology used just a few years later for Mystique in the first X-Bend.
Sure, yeah.
This very much has the vibe of.
of a mystique kind of move.
But once you're, why not just change out the wig?
It's fake already.
Why color the wig and post?
Yeah, I thought that was stupid.
Well, because you have to do the smooth, you know, it's an effect shot.
So you got to.
Sure, sure.
But you know, after the effect, like after you put your hands over at Tacoma, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then it turns into real hair, maybe.
There's also a great line here where one of the girls says, you look like Lonnie Anderson.
Yeah.
Which a lot of kids don't know.
His kids in 96 might have, I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
WKRP, possibly.
Sure.
Or he just followed the saga with her and Burt, man.
I knew what was up.
Also, Lonnie Anderson, famous wig wearer, ladies and gentlemen.
Maybe that's what we're talking about.
Possibly.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that could be.
And then Farooza here.
I wonder about this Farooza line because.
Oh, yeah.
I wonder if it's the same line I'm thinking of.
I wish for a smaller ass.
We got to talk about it.
We got to talk about it.
there was okay I don't think the kids know but like in the 90s
in early 2000s white women were so afraid to have any
ass any ass yeah yeah right they did not want ass and it's like
black people were like the fuck going on over there like
ass is great like what I thought no no needs my back sides
need to look like a fucking chalkboard yeah Hank Hill style
and not to be rude but like for his a box a really small girl
Like, she doesn't really have an ass to be quite...
That's literally what I was thinking
because you see, like, when they first get into the, like,
pin house, the mom, like, slaps her ass because she's so excited.
And I'm like, there's, like, nothing there, Frusa.
Like, you're fine.
You don't, you want a smaller ass, but there's no ass to make smaller.
I love for us, but I'm just like, like, what are we talking about?
That's even too tall or other for me, but no, I can make that ass and it's smaller.
Your legs would fall off.
It's interesting though
Because what I thought of in the moment
Because she says the line
And then like
She laughs in a way
That doesn't seem like Nancy laughing
It seems like Farooza laughing
And they all kind of laugh about it
And that's why I brought it up
I wondered if it was an ad lib
That she did
And they kept it
Because the way she laughs
It's not Nancy at all
It seems like it's a break
And they just left it in
Because it was a good adlib
And a good take there
so Sarah wakes up a little later back home
Chris Hooker just screaming outside her window
like a fucking psychopath
3 in the morning
Let's move in together at 3 a.m.
Let's move in together
We're fucking 17 years old
What are you talking about?
And then my hero Clifty Young
Oh yeah
You shine that flashlight in that asshole's face
Can I help you?
I'm sorry this guy
This is a coward
He should have done like he did the snake
right now.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
Because that's,
you know what?
Because otherwise,
your daughter
might be going to jail,
buddy.
Because if you had just done it here
and killed him with the broom,
we'd be fine.
Yes,
of course.
We'd be fine.
So, yeah,
he's shooed away or whatever.
We go back to the magic store
and this is where,
you know,
the ladies telling him,
you know,
true magic is neither black
nor white,
yada,
yada,
this is the
whatever spells you put out,
whatever you do to people,
it comes back to you threefold.
We get that warning here.
Oh, no.
Oh, shit.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
You should have read the fine print from my dog.
That was information
that would have been helpful to me yesterday.
Damn right.
But Nancy buys the big dangerous book
called Invoking the Spirit.
And I feel like this shop keeps got to be like,
sorry, this book is 21 plus.
Or like just whatever.
bullshit excuse, put it back behind
a counter, you know. There's a little gate behind it
where you put like which penthouse
and which playboy and all that stuff
and then you put it back there with that stuff
with another couple books. I'm sure like, there's
probably like here speaking to demons
you know, very, in three
easy steps. Yeah, you don't want that.
That's the first person. This is the first sale
she made all day. She needs that money.
She's sweating that
2199. The store's about
to close. There's no one's
shopping here. It was never a
I'm living in L.A.
Steve, you just remember you think how fucking hilarious
it's like you're selling this like
bound in human fresh and written in human blood,
evil book.
$21.99, please.
Cash your card.
I'll take a, yeah, Necronomica S. Mortis, please.
Oh, yeah, $29.99. Oh, that's a little steep
but I'll pay it. I'll pay it.
It's buy one, get one. So you can go back.
Get another evil book. Is this the second
printing? The soft cover? Okay, yeah.
Yeah, let me get the summoning. A couple of
Haunted Blood Daggers, 15 coffees
for the crew back there, some Amityville juice.
You want one, too? You had three Amityville juices.
What's that magazine back there behind the counter covered in a paper bag?
What's it? Oh, which jugs monthly? Yes, give me a copy of that.
Oh, the Charles Manson record you have behind the registers.
Oh, wow. Oh, how to haunt children? Oh, I'm going to need this.
This one's definitely going on top.
So they go to the beach to do the big spell
And we see everyone is carrying
An animal here
So we got a goldfish, a bird
A butterfly and a snake
And we got Matthew Sweet on the fucking radio
Hell yeah
Now we're doing it, dude
That's right
God damn right
So Sarah talks here
It comes important later
But Sarah is talking here about
You know
In the lead up to her suicide
attempt um you know she felt that she was sort of losing her mind going crazy she was seeing
things she says when i close my eyes i would see things of bugs and snakes and when i open my eyes
they would still be there in front of me so just you know ammo for later when you know
turn on her we know exactly how to totally fuck with her i mean it's supposed to be an important
scene because like clearly for like for all of her talk about like the the sisterhood of
witches and all that stuff like she doesn't listen to
to her at all. Like, clearly for his book
is like, oh, I don't fucking care. Like, I'm just about
I need to get man on in me. That's what
I need to be doing. I got to be focusing on that.
I can't be dealing with your shit.
It's a decent lesson, though, for
everybody. Be careful what you tell people
in high school. That you don't know the back at you.
Be careful what you tell
anybody, period.
Period. Yeah.
You don't be telling people your business.
Be careful. I'll trust it both.
Keep your head down.
You want that sweet, sweet,
doctor-patient confidentiality.
Or maybe a lawyer, you know, get that going on.
Otherwise, your friends might call the corners on you and totally fuck with you later.
They do the cool spell here, calling the corners, which is why they needed fourth for this,
because it's a north, south, east, and west thing.
And it ends with Nancy getting struck by lightning.
This is a pretty great effect, I have to say.
This is all pretty thrilling.
I like this scene.
Oh, wow.
Oh, she's not dead.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Okay.
So, yeah, get up.
get up we should get up yeah that that that's good wow you're not dead huh and this is it's a little bit of a bad edit here because like we just wake up and you know they're all like sleeping on the beach and i think it's rachel sort of looks out like what the fuck and then like you finally see and it's a it's a cool enough it's still the effect shot still holds up it's not great but it's still pretty cool foruz is like walking on water coming in from you know the ocean pretty strong
sweet.
You don't have too many drinks one night.
Your buddy wakes up.
Your buddy's walking on water.
You're like, oh, dude.
That's the first night after tequila.
After your first tequila, that's, yeah, that's it, brother.
But, like, you need to show, like, immediately, like, the aftermath of a girl being struck by lightning.
I know.
Like, chances can be the next day.
Yeah, it's like, come on, you need to give us a beat with some fun weirdness or something.
Maybe she has raiden eyes, like lightning eyes.
for a second, that'd be kind of cool.
Sure. I mean, or just show them all
just getting knocked unconscious by it.
Because the fact that like hours
just past, the sun's fucking up.
Like, yeah, it's just, it's a bad edit.
It's just smoke perpetually billowing
from her head for the rest of the movie.
Exactly. So, yeah,
she's walking on water. I can feel him running through
my veins, Nancy says.
He's in me. It's like, girl,
what's the fuck? Calm down.
It's going on fair. Also,
you'll get a little clingy.
I thought she was kind of acting come drunk, but like magic.
Oh, nice.
I like it.
Yeah.
I can see that.
Yep.
I totally buy that.
And then like in a thing that kind of goes nowhere.
There's all these like beached sharks coming up on the shore here.
And they're like, what the fuck?
And there's like all these people on the beach already.
So it's kind of amazing that none of those people saw the girl walking on water through a second ago.
And then yelling, this is a gift.
These are my gifts.
Hands off my gifts.
Oh, dude.
Yeah, just like caressing this dead shark.
This is my gift.
Nancy's whale.
She should take a bite out of it.
Nancy, they probably were thinking,
she's having a nice morning paddle board.
That's nice.
I would like someone who's good at editing stuff.
Just show that scene.
And then edited Larry David from Seinfeld yelling,
is anyone here a marine biologist?
Absolutely.
She just says
I am your daughter now
A great crazy line
She very much turns
Into like Renfield
It's very much a Renfield kind of vibe here
And now this fruze the bulk off the chain
Which is what we want
We paid a ticket for you know
Absolutely absolutely
She's driving this car way too fast
Running all these well not running red lights
but really sort of risking it.
I guess using magic to know when they're going to turn green and whatever.
And Sarah's like, you know, maybe we should stop all this advanced level crafting here.
What were those being like kids not knowing the repercussions of our actions?
And it's great because this shows you why this movie kind of falls apart at this point.
Not only because it's not a horror movie because she goes to Rochelle.
She's like, you know, because what happened to Stacey is kind of fucked up?
And like she goes to Bonnie and is like, and you've become so conceited.
I'm like, when?
I've not, like, she's just wearing nice shirts now.
Yep, no, look at that.
Nice shirt, you stuck up, bitch.
I fucking knew it, Bonnie.
Preferred it when you hated yourself.
Exactly, like, you need to see her, like, I don't even know.
Like, find a way to show me that before that scene.
You know what I mean?
I liked you a lot better when you looked exactly like Freddie Kruger.
So we get back to the fucking locker room, man.
We go back to the locker room.
And this is Christine Taylor.
like sitting on the floor of the shower
looking a lot like young Jason
Borges now by the way
this wispy like nothing
left and she goes
what did I do to deserve this
and Rochelle you're right there you gotta be like
because you were a fucking racist
C word like that's why
that's why this is happening to you
but she just sort of looks like
aw and just walks away
weak tea no yeah no thank you
like I like come on like she just points
at herself come on
Come on, you know, come on.
You said something that rhymed with Metroid, but it was a lot worse.
Yeah, it's like, it's almost like the movie wants us to feel bad for Christine Taylor's character.
And that is like, I actually like agree with you, Steve.
Like, I'm glad they make it a point that, yeah, this girl is racist.
And like, that is like, you know, has some interesting aspects to it.
But when it gets here and it's like, God, but like her hair.
like oh my god it's so fucked up rachel like do this and it's like no actually that's like
you should go to like black hell where you like being like tortured by like you know black people
were just showing up like oh this this girl raised oh let's fuck her up she just perpetually
jumped for eternity can i get it can i get that scene can we get that scene in here that that would
that would be really nice i mean that's just they want you to think that it's good that
She feels bad for her.
That, I think, is the big emotion they want.
It's more, like, Christine Taylor doesn't even matter.
It's just that, like, oh, she cares.
But then, like, of course, Fruza-Bulk takes over everything and her character goes away.
It's like a thing of, like, everyone's realizing, oh, this spells went a little far or whatever.
But that's what's so funny about, like, how the two of them turn on a dime and just become her stooges, right?
Because you have this scene where instead of her being, like, it's happening because you're racist, she feels bad.
about it but then like fucking 15 minutes later she's like antagonizing uh robin tony and torturing her
and you're just like what what where was the feeling bad where did that go you can see the chop job
to get this movie down to a buck 40 which i appreciate honestly like but there's a scene when
that we're at the house where they're like try to stop uh nancy and chris i'm just jumping ahead
because it's a three second cut because like you see stacey or whatever her name is with the wig
and rachel goes to her and she's like stacey and then they just cut to the bedroom and i'm
like, no, that's a whole fucking scene
that fulfilled a plot point
that I need to have. You're totally right.
I forgot about that. That's a, it's a
very telling edit. You're absolutely
correct. So we get the scene
where Sarah, and again, it's
shit we don't really see, but she's hanging
out in a car with Chris Hooker again.
And she's like, I just can't believe the girls
have turned on me. And I was like, since
the beach? Like, did I miss something? What happened?
Yes. But then this is, of course,
you know, she starts trying to lay it out like,
hey, Chris, like, why do you
you like me and he's like you know
I just woke up one day and I just couldn't stop
thinking about you and she's like yeah but do you ever think
why that happened like it's kind of funny
because if it eventually got to where she wants
to take it it's like do you
ever think maybe someone cast a spell on you
Chris? Like and
it doesn't get there though because he winds
up trying to fucking rape her in this car
it is so intense
and it's like the movie
gets so muddled
like here on out about like what
it's actually trying to say with some of this shit
because it's like, okay, he has a spell put on him, so he's, like, obsessive.
Then he tries to rape, you know, rape this girl.
And then it's more like, this isn't kind of bad, like, how Nancy is, like, really fucking would be.
And it's like, what are we trying to say here?
Because this is, like, it's already kind of weird to make him rapey because it's under a spell.
Like, the movie doesn't have.
That's, like, really weird.
Yeah, it's like, the movie doesn't have the juice and understanding to actually handle.
anything like in the ballpark of that so it just feels like really jarring and like weird you know it's
kind of funny because you just made me realize that uh the film wish upon actually does that one
detail a little better because she joey king says something in the wish about like yeah i wish that
he liked me like no matter what or you know whatever it takes it's something like that which sort
of then be you know the the verbiage there it's like okay well you could sort of then see why this guy
under the spell of the wishbox
takes it to the next level.
But like, you know, Sarah doesn't fucking wish for any of that.
Yeah, she wants him to...
And it's just sort of weird, like...
Again, that's the move.
Just go to a horror place.
Make it a horror thing where, like...
Exactly.
Make it spooky scary.
Make him, like, kind of creepy,
and then oops, somebody cuts his fucking head off or whatever.
You know what I mean?
At least we get a kick in the nerds.
At least we got...
It's a good, solid kick in the nuts.
Dude, it's fucking great.
Love that.
He gets definitely Billy Lumacy here.
like when he's yelling for her
I'm like oh it's Billy Lubis
Yeah maybe you put a fucking knife in his hand
Dude it would be yeah exactly
But so she runs to Rochelle's house
And then this is what's funny is because
She has just said to Chris Hooker
Yes
The girls have all turned their back on me or whatever
And I guess it's like because he did this or whatever
But Ferruza is just right there
Like I'm gonna go play
And like she goes to the party
But I was like
If you hate this girl like
Why are you so hyped to do this?
I don't know it's all a little
not great right here
she wants to kill Chris Hooker generally
I think that was on the list
and that was on the list
and yeah worthy goal
well it's so much like the
the third act of scream here
there's a party at Trey's house
Trey
and so this is
she lures Chris into the bedroom here
you know
and we have already
you know she said the line earlier
about like he gave her VD
or something she can speak from experience
and we know that they've like
hooked
up or whatever and she's like you
this is kind of funny because this is a character
like this is like a
at least 40 to 50 year old character line
like you and me have had some pretty good times
together Chris Hooker
like again you are 17 years old
you don't talk like that I've gotten
blackout drunk before
oh what? What? Are you right now
are you blacked out? We'll find out tomorrow
when I don't remember this
but the
fact that this guy like he's like
hook it up
like Fruselbach is throwing herself at him
he's like no no no I'm in love with
Robin Tini and then she does the mystique thing
and turns into a different person
and he's like hey cool
I'd be like I'd run for the fucking hills
drunk out of my mind
like you're not Chris Hooker though
you're not Chris Hooker you're not empty
inside there Stephen
everybody's drunk blackouts
are different dude
you know I get blackout drunk
I take my shirt off in a cab and then
into a 7-Eleven when the driver kicks me
out of the car. So, you know, these
kind of things. You never
know, Steve. You never know.
But it's great because I
forget what Faruza says
right here, like something about like,
you know, don't you want me, want to hook
up or whatever it is? And he's like,
not to get my dick bitten off.
Because she's like,
that's what is. She's like ready to go down on him
or whatever. And she's like kind of touching the top
of the pants there. And he's like, not getting my
dick bit off by you.
And then this is she does the glamour and turns into Sarah and just does make love to me, Chris.
She should have turned into Snake Guy instead.
That would have been great.
That would have been show hilarious.
Make love to me, Chris.
Yeah.
Snake guy unzips his pants there and a snake comes in.
I brought a house a snake, dude.
I brought a snake for you.
I have this snake is for you.
Make love to me.
Oh, this is so great.
This is great.
You were dead in my dream last night.
shit.
It's like,
it's kind of crazy, though, that she
does this.
Because I was like, oh, this is like catfishing
to a degree that may be
this is like disturbing.
And also you can kind of look at what she's doing
is a little rapy.
So it's like a weird juxtaposition
after, I don't know.
It is a magic induced thing
that happens at the end of Revenge of the Nerd.
She wasn't like a Darth Vader
costume. Yeah, like, she
she's just wearing a Robin Tunny
costume and then she goes,
uh, uh,
it's fucking weird.
Oy, babe.
But then the gals come because
they want to stop what's going on again.
The quick, Michelle's scene, it's like,
it's such an amazing,
Stacey, yes, cut.
And then
Robin Tini runs into the bedroom and it's like,
you know, you've made your point, Nancy,
etc. He's got a
It's just, it's so wild
Cause Robin Tuny like walks in and she like sees herself basically fucking this dude
And then like you see Farooza
I would I would dwell on that for like maybe a second longer
I'd be like wait so you're
Oh okay
Yeah
That's like actually really fucked out
Oh yeah
Oh I think that's probably main reason why Nancy tries to kill her at the end
Because you can't have that getting out
Oh no you can't
You cannot
imagine like your nemesis being like yeah so she like became me and fucked a guy
does she want to fuck me oh my god i think she wants to fuck me this is this is the harry potter i
want that's the harry potter you want the teenage years where they're just like oh man
and she pretended to be me in the in the bedroom with harry last night oh my god she's
disgusting it was so fucked up hermione it was like the end of that movie revenge of the nerd
Harry Potter
What a
Dude I'm promising to not watch a second of that fucking
Oh hell
I'm sorry no
I'm gonna
I'm gonna fuck it
I never like got super into Harry Potter
Like I read like the first few books
But like it wasn't really my thing
Sure
But like at this point
I feel like supporting anything Harry Potter
Is like you're like okay with transphobia
I'm sorry you Harry Potter
Boring ass bitches who like got little
lightning bolt tattoos
and you like love it.
Because you're actually
even taking it one step further
by supporting the new thing.
Exactly.
Those movies are my movies.
You know, sure, we've all got that.
But to be like, I'm watching this new thing
and every day this woman is saying
the most heinous shit possible.
I'm so happy that I always hated it.
I don't know why.
For some reason, I disliked it when it came out
and I was a kid and no one understood me
and why.
But look at this.
I knew, somehow I knew,
was attached to it.
You knew Robocop was the true way, and it always is.
Thank you.
So, so much like, much like J.K. Rowling talking to a trans woman, Nancy goes to Chris Hooker,
you don't exist.
Yeah.
And I love, I love the shot, dude, of Farooza's boots, the toes of her boots, just dragging on the floor while she floats by.
It's creepy and weird.
And you're, like, moments like that make you think, oh, like,
Like this movie is just like a few steps away from actually like really doing what it needs to do.
Like that's such a like effective image, you know.
And she does that he's sorry thing.
She's super Canadian kind of.
She's like, he's sorry, sorry.
It's like shaking his head and scream it.
It's like it's creepy.
It's a fucking horror moment.
You know what I mean?
It works.
And the thing about the boot shot too that I love, all of that is just like really simple, practical filmmaking.
And it's to me that shot of her.
toes dragging across the floor is way
more effective than the end of the
movie, but the three of them are terribly
floating in Sarah's
living room? Yeah.
It's like menacing, but like the effect does
not work at all.
Can I sell you on some snake hands? What about snake hands?
Is that going to do anything for you?
I don't know about snake hands, dude.
No, thank you.
But like, man, you
pushes, I mean,
mind pushes him out of
window. And how hard
is it just to show him getting impaled
on a gate. How hard? Yes. How hard?
That's, you got the R, dude. Let's see it. Let's do it. That's it. I don't need
him to explode. That'd be nice. I'm not saying I wouldn't like it. But that's all
you got to give me is that and I'm fine. But no, can't do that. No, cut. I get it's a
POV shot, right? Because you go out the window with him. Yeah. Yeah. Which is
like the cheapest way to do that is you fake throw a camera out of a window and like, then you don't
have to film anything happening.
Wait, Cody, you actually threw the camera out of the window.
God damn it, Cody.
Cody!
And there's some, like, deleted scenes, end-door, because it's, like, we cut to, like,
Clifty Young, like, helping his daughter through this.
It's like, we talk to the police, you're going to be fine.
I'm like, what police?
What happened?
Dude, zero police presence in this movie, and it's kind of crazy, actually.
Like, the heat coming down is another thing of, like, you know, Nancy, we got to stop
doing these spells like the cops are on to us or whatever
but like there is not a single dude
dressed like a police officer in this movie it's very
surprising actually there is at the school
in the background because schools have
like school oh school security
guy or whatever school cop
fake cop bitch ass
but it's so funny in this
scene because like
Robin Tuni says
I think he was a good guy
underneath it all and I was like
where bitch what the fuck are you talking
about but she has a great
teenager line where her dad's trying to comfort her and she said don't touch me everything
i touch turns to shit yeah now that is real depression right there that's what i'm looking at
right there that sounds it'd been awesome that if uh cliff de young instantly turned into a pile
of feces oh my god that'd be hilarious what is happening to me you don't know he was so sweet
to me he once compared you to a saint bernard and it was really funny
Sarah has a dream
that they'll fly into a room and strangle her to death
which helps out
it's only because we need to reference it later
to tell you that they're fucking with her dreams as well
because we have classic getting bullied in the bathroom scene
been there baby
oh yeah
she quits the circle
and then it's like why don't you think about leaving school
or the town or the planet
I think she has already tried to do the binding
Spell because I think this is what for us, like, you know, in the old days,
when someone tried to do something that gets to come a dead killer.
Bye.
I love her bye.
She's like, bye.
And it's like, damn, bitch.
She's like, I hope you die.
I will kill you myself.
And then after the bye is when Bonnie Nev Campbell is like something like, you know,
seeing your dreams or something like that.
And you're like, oh, the thing from before.
Oh, got it.
So we go back to the bookstore, but Sarah is.
is solo here and she's like,
listen, this Nancy,
you know, she's got man all fucking
toes to tits inside of her.
She's inside my head.
And then this is where they've been,
the girls have been shooed away
from the back room once before.
But she's like, this shopkeep is like,
okay, now you're like,
coven is turned on you.
So we can bring back the curtain
and you can see what's back here.
Here's the porn.
Here's all the porn.
behind these saloon doors
is where the rest of the store is
and this kind of
it's a little bit of a buffy vibe
because it's like kind of a hell mouth
and again
not a lot of detail here
you want to get in
and out of this bookstore
as fast as possible
but she's like
oh yes
the back room of the shop
yes this is like ground zero
for this very magical
powerful part of the world
and I'm like
so it's a hell mouth
you built your fucking thing
and all right
oh by the way your mom was a witch too
I don't know. I just know that.
I don't know.
Your father helped me like that too.
Star Fox dialogue.
Why not?
I like this candle effect here.
They go into the back room and this shopkeep Lirio is the character's name.
She lights one candle and then all of them come lit at the same time.
I thought that's kind of neat.
I want to be able to do that.
That'd be great.
And she's about to get the superpower, but like some bullshit happens.
She gets scared and runs away.
And I'm like, no.
Yes.
That's the superpower.
Lirio says to her, like, the only way to combat Nancy is you also then have to do, you know,
the invoke the spirit spell, have Manaw also go into you.
There's enough of Mano to go around.
Mano and two girls was better than that.
Oh, man, no, you.
You slut.
Yeah, true.
You're the whore, you know.
Oh, yeah.
But what she, she doesn't just run away.
they do like another, like, they make her see shit
and they make her think that the store exploded.
Oh, I see.
That's so funny.
That's really great.
Because also, I mean, it's a really bad fucking, like Star Trek the next generation
season one fireball.
Yeah, yeah, it's really bad.
But it's not as bad as the awkward ass run she has through the alley, like leaving the store.
I was like, why is she running like this?
What the fuck?
Is the wig that heavy?
No, it's to keep it on.
They did it like three times.
It kept falling on.
Oh, what?
One of the harnesses is loose.
Oh, no.
Cody,
Cody get the staple gun.
Get it the one with,
we shoot it from the back.
Come over the one with a chin strap on it.
That's better.
Okay, good.
Hi, it's me, director, Andrew Fleming.
I just want to apologize the entire crew
for hiring my nitwit nephew, Cody.
Oh, no.
He's ruining everything on this film shoot,
and I'm totally sorry.
Fuck you, Cody.
For the rest of, for third act.
We're going to have Robin in a hat, right, Robin?
We're going to do it up.
Yep, nice little ball cap.
Sarah runs home.
Nobody's home.
This is where Nancy calls in.
And this is the, oh, your parents thought you ran back to San Francisco.
So they got a flight to go track you down.
Turn on the TV.
Yeah.
Plane crash alert on CNN.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Is he Clifty Dead now?
this is a great glamour
I was like wow
you guys can really properly
do the news
fake asses like yeah
it's like a really like
in depth glamour
like you're not just changing eye color
you're creating like this whole existence
this whole reality
but this is where she's seeing snakes everywhere
and lizards and spiders and all sorts
of fucking bugs and stuff
nasty
roaches nasty
yeah a lot of rats too
nasty
Oh, it's nasty
Very Indiana Jones here
Yeah, I mean they're falling on her at one point
I chuckled
I was like you know what I would freak out too
Yeah sure
I'll tell you the worst one though
At least for me
The overflowing maggot toilet
Oh maggot toilet stuff
Dude that's a rough toilet
That was nasty I was like
I'm sorry I don't know why
But maggots like seeing them in movies
Like really gets to me
I'm like y'all shouldn't exist like this
This is just gross looking.
You're moving too much.
You're always moving too much.
I don't like it.
And also, where am I going to shit?
Yeah.
Just right on top, dude, a little chair.
Eric, please.
Maybe they'll eat it.
That's like a way to save water, conserve energy.
We are the world.
It's true, Eric.
Some people do an AI.
Now I've got to have a maggot toilet.
True.
People doing AI now.
I have to have a maggot toilet.
Like, what the fuck does that mean?
The water's going to be gone one day because you're doing your little images.
But you wouldn't need to replace it with maggots.
You could just...
Certainly wouldn't be the first one.
Please.
I'm waiting for a better solution.
Eric.
Eric, what happened to your brain?
Is it a dry?
I got dropped.
Oh.
Turns out it's an all-nancy hallucination, but the Coven has showed up here and
you know, Nancy or
Sarah, you're going to kill yourself
tonight is Nancy's
threat here. This is where Farooza
is just really tidily
tap, tap, dancing through the rest of this movie.
She's having a grand old time.
Also, the like fake suicide note that's like,
I killed Chris Hooker. I'm sorry.
Love Sarah. And it looks like it was written by a child.
Like it just has this like, I'm practicing
cursive look to it. And I was like, no one would
fucking believe them? What the fuck
is this? You see, Cody, I
told you that your prop suicide don't look like
shit. God damn you!
What's going on? You wrote it with a ruler.
A ruler! Are you serious?
You know what, Cody? Your mother
called you a fucking loser, and I stood up
for her, but you know what? Your mother was right.
Fucking
Cody.
I'm going to call Margaret
tonight.
Is this the steakhead's part? Because it's my favorite thing.
it can be
yeah I mean it can't
like not much
like it's you know
like she's seeing all this shit
and then you know
Oh the mom's picture comes alive
Yeah
That's very Harry Potter actually
Speaking of you know what I mean
Like the moving picture bullshit
You know right yeah yeah yeah
But the mother
The dead mother's photograph
tells her to reach inside herself
And Sarah at this point
Also invokes man all
You see
the wrists heal themselves, you know, all that good stuff.
And it's, it's kind of great.
I really love this moment.
She's like, you're in deep shit with manor.
This is a great line.
I'm so mad at you all.
But it is great because, again, like, they, they write fucking Robin Tini and Rachel
true out of this movie.
They just look in the mirror, Robin, Rob, Rob, uh, no, no,
Neff Campbell.
Neff Campbell.
Neff Campbell looks like Freddy Krueger for five seconds.
Oh, Harvey Dent, I wrote, Dan.
Oh, it's.
It's definitely, yeah, totally, I can see it.
And Rachel True's got the weird skull cap that Christine Taylor was wearing earlier.
And they just run out of the movie.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, they go.
Great.
They're like, like, a ghost.
It'd be kind of cool if maybe one of them like goes on her side and the other one's doing something else or they have agency at all or something.
Or when they, because they do come back and when they come back, they're not also still evil.
That would be something.
They're, like, cool with stuff, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice, but no, they're just, they got turned for good.
Nancy starts having, like, cockroaches coming out of the bottom of her pants and out of her, the sleeves of her shirts.
And, yes, this is, she starts turning into snake fingers, which doesn't look great.
No, I would wager it didn't look great in 1996.
No.
Also, how quick did she invoke that spirit, you know?
Like, there was a whole production on the beach for Dan.
see. The lightning. This was
just like, I'm just laying down now I got
Minot. And haven't the sharks
suffered enough, by the way? Like, how many more
sharks need to die in this movie?
Well, dude, that would be awesome if it was like, it was just sharks
because they were by the ocean, but like, Cliff
de Young comes home. He's like, what's
all these dead fucking squirrels in the driveway?
It's an army of dead
squirrels. Squirrel guy emerges. I found
these. You're dead
my dream life day.
You keep on running away from me, but this is for you.
Cliff DeYoung's like,
didn't I just shoe you away
with a broom last week?
No, that was a different guy.
That's my cousin.
That's my cousin's snake guy.
Yeah.
Don't speak ill of the dead.
It was really sad
to snake guy's funeral.
I just got back from his service.
It was beautiful.
I got a muffin from it.
Yeah, but so, you know,
she tries to do the
the binding
spell again here, but Nancy counters it
with a total freak out. We get this
awesome dresser smash moment.
Oh, yeah. Pretty sweet.
And I like this, like, she
thinks that, like, Sarah has sort of disappeared
because the clothes are just, like, her,
her, like, what she was wearing is
laid out perfectly on the floor, and she's
like, where did she go?
Tricky, tricky, tricky.
The way she, like, delivers the line
is so good. And she acts, like,
that the language starts making her sound more
like a witch, too. Like, that's actually, like,
a stereotypical witch like that.
Sure. That really does work with that.
But you know what? She's what, you know, points to Nancy.
She's smart. She's like, no, no, no.
She's still here.
Yeah. This is real.
And she's about to stab her.
And then Ram Tuni wakes up, appears and just throws her.
Dude, she opens her eyes like Arnold hiding on the tree and the predator.
It is what she is like fucking chameleonically camouflaged against this wall.
I would love it if Nancy started laughing like the predator at the end of the
I wish.
That'd be great.
But man, she, like, kicks her and this bitch goes flying into this mirror.
A double-leg donkey kick?
Really powerful.
Right to the gut.
I was like, damn, that fucking hurts.
It's awesome.
And, yeah, after that total knockout move, T.K.O.
This girl ain't getting up.
She finishes, Sarah finishes the binding spell on her, which the binding spell, we should
say she's saying uh to not allow nancy to do harm to herself or others via magic so she can still
drive down the street sure someone with a car whatever sure just as so long as magic isn't involved you
see that kick is so powerful and so good if you did that in a video game you would lose some of
your own health you know what i mean you can't do it all the time you can only do it when you
want it you know i i want to find out like whatever person came up with that idea in video games
and write them a strongly worded letter.
I always hated that.
They're dead.
They're definitely dead.
I would, I'm going to tell you that.
I'm pretty sure they're dead.
Okay. If any gamer out there
knows the first video game to have
the rule of if you use a super move,
you lose some of your own life.
Despise it. I was playing some old
Ninja Turtles games recently and that happens
in that and I was like, fuck this.
It's turtle time. Come on.
This binding spell, I guess
sentence her, that makes
or go to Arkham, like, because you're physically
bound now. It's a little...
The spell's going too far.
Manor, look, I take everything to 11.
This is the exact same ending that
Edward Enigma gets in Batman Forever.
Oh, my God.
It is super villain-ass shit.
Like, she's scarred up from, like, the mirror
that she was slammed into.
And she's doing...
I could fly. I could fly.
I can fly. The same thing.
You're right. She's like, I'm flying.
He's in you.
me.
Girl,
like,
you're
dignitized
by my
God.
Goodbye.
Don't like
until you try.
Oh,
okay.
But,
yeah,
we did reference it
briefly,
but the next morning,
you know,
when the dust is
settled,
these two
fucking shitbird
girls come back up
and they're like,
yeah,
gee,
we never thought
it would go that far.
Totally like
half-hearted
bullshit.
They're liars.
Like,
yes.
One of them goes,
we feel really bad.
And Robin Tuni
goes about
trying to kill me.
I do like her sarcasm there. It's really funny.
Rochelle has the audacity to say that the whole dead parents thing was just a practical
joke.
All right.
And they also confirm here that Bonnie and Rochelle have lost their powers, no more powers
for them.
And then, you know, so you hang out.
We could hang out sometime.
And a great Robin Tooney line, hold your breath until I call.
Clifty Young's in the back like, hi, I didn't die in a plane crash.
Just want to make the audience really clear.
about that. Hi, everybody. All my
seats were deleted, but that, I'm still alive.
Yeah. Oh, man. Clifty
one day on set, dude, this guy should have been
in the movie. Clifted dead.
Clifted dead.
But yeah, so, you know, they're walking away
and they like shittily
one to the other, like she probably doesn't have
powers anyway. And it is a great,
oh yeah, fucker, like she makes the sky
turn dark, storms are coming,
lightning hits a tree branch
that falls right near them. I got to tell you
you make this the end scene
of the movie, that branch falls on the
two of them. Credits. How cool
would that? A good splat
ending? It's been awesome.
Now you're going to do the Archimede. Gotta go Batman
forever on them. Got to do it.
Who's the lead witch?
Me!
But yeah, it's kind of
cool, like she's freaking out, having a total
freak out, chain to this bed,
strapped to the bed, whatever. And the last
lines of the movie is her just going, I'm flying, I'm flying, cut to black.
Isn't she in a stereotypical nut house in that Return to Oz movie as well?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's like the threat over her.
Institutional lines.
Does that happen in the Waterboy as well?
I think she's escaped from an institute in the Waterboy.
Yeah, like the beginning is, oh yeah, exactly.
That's where she comes from.
Yeah, I think that's it.
She would have had to have been previously institutionalized
if she thinks Bobby Boucher is a romantic interest.
It's also, what's her face is fate in,
is at the end of the first final destination?
What's her face?
Ali Larder, yes.
Is in the nut house at some point.
She's in the second movie.
In the second one, we meet her there, yeah.
Oh, that's right, because the kids come and she's like,
oh, yeah, I'm in here because death can't get me in the booby hatch or whatever.
But yeah, I'm flying, I'm flying.
end of movie.
Yeah, it's crazy that Farooza is the only one that came back for that sequel.
I mean, crazy and I guess maybe not so crazy, but why you would want to even
connect anything is just kind of seem silly.
It does.
It's kind of bad.
But as it turns out, none of us have seen it.
I thought I did for a second earlier today.
For a second.
But we'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts and potential recommendations.
And Angelica, you're our guest.
we'll start with you.
I am of course
going to recommend this movie.
It is a 90s staple
for weird girls.
But I know if someone were to
like without context
just like watch it today
it's probably not going to hit
for the young ends the way
it hit for us
for ladies of a certain age.
But you know
it's still fun.
It's worth watching
just for Faruza Bach
at least.
Like she's like really bringing it.
It's like a fun but
frustrating watch because you can see
like a better version of it that's like
full on horror that like
slightly develops these characters
a little bit more gives them a few
more beats. It's just like
yeah it's a little frustrating
but you know it's worth watching for Faruza
my goth queen
hell yeah
Steve Sadek. Yeah to recommend
for me too I kind of go back
and forth on like I've seen this movie a couple
times in the last couple years and that's the thing
it's really watchable the fact that it's
99 minutes or whatever it is
it goes by really quickly
it's a very easy easy watch
yes it absolutely could be better
it should be a horror movie
you should give all four characters something to do
if you're making a four piece movie
but for this is really good you know what I mean
I think that like there's
there's really good beats there and it's got a really
it captures a very perfect
1996 pop
grunge aesthetic thing
very well and I think that
for that for that moment in time it's worth it
hell yeah uh eric ciska yeah no i'm not gonna say anything different i agree uh with my colleagues uh it's not perfect but it's a definite recommend i always have fun whenever i watch it it it's been a while for this one so i was really happy to revisit it and uh yeah i mean a little more clifty young would have been nice but what are you gonna do i guess i'll call the corners for that i knew it i knew it i knew it
Christopher
Yeah, I might recommend
I think it's a movie that
I watched it a bunch when I was a kid
Again, I saw it in theaters
And I rented it a bunch
I do believe this was part of the
Will Cabin Stash
The Looch
Oh nice
So I did have this around
And like what I think
The problem is that it doesn't decide
What it wants to be
Like it's not a horror movie
It's not really a thriller
And you would think it's a teen movie
Right
but then like the school life isn't really that populated.
There's no like life anywhere else.
Everybody is just either focused on them or against them in some way.
There's no like, you know what, Rob, Tudit, you know, there's life elsewhere.
There's other people that you might get along with, not just these people who seem to hate you at the end of this.
So I just kind of always felt like there was more to be fleshed out here.
There's more of a world to build here.
And but I still, I mean, again, Ferrisa book's incredible in it.
uh neb campbell i my queen what can i do here um i mean the group rachel tru's also like
looking those curls are popping she's looking great love her down love her and uh yeah i say
rachel true uh i remember mostly from uh the greger rocky movie uh no wear she's good in that
great in that movie uh but yeah definitely worth seeing uh just for the nostalgia my god yeah yeah no it's
it's a big recommend for me too again like you know angelica like you said like that the the pantheon
of those like mid to late 90s movies like this i you know i put this in with like the faculty
scream i know you might know what you did last summer which i know are more like horror and science
fiction but this you know it kind of falls into that especially soundtrack wise one thing i wanted
to to mention the thing that like i knew of before years before i actually saw the movie
the fucking poster for this movie is awesome
The four of them and the lightning in the background and the rain.
Like, it looks totally fucking badass.
And the logo.
Well, but this, though, but this, it's interesting, Steve.
This is different than the movie.
This is like crow font.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Okay.
And the other thing I wanted to point out, folks at home may also remember another very famous
Rachel True performance that came out two years later.
She's indeed Mary Jane in half baked.
Which I learned just the other day.
last year we saw a release of half-baked colon totally high
where she reprises her role as Mary Jane
and it's just her and Harlan what's his face?
Harlan Williams.
Harlan Williams, who's not even repeating the character.
He's doing the voice of a joint or some shit.
What?
But yeah, Rachel True returned as Mary Jane
in a half-baked sequel that no one knows about.
So I just had to put it out there.
I watched that movie so fucking much when I was younger,
which is wild because the first time I smoked weed, I was 26.
They, like, enjoyed the movie for some reason.
Fun movie.
It's fun.
It's a totally, totally fun, fun movie.
Oh, why didn't they have Dave Chappelle back?
Oh, of course.
Who he is.
Oh, he's going to be in Harry Potter.
Don't worry about it.
One dude who's in this, and then we'll end the episode,
But one dude who was in this how high, or a half-baked, rather, a sequel, is this young guy, Dexter Darden, who appears to be, like, the main character, one of the two.
That guy was on that Saved by the Bell reboot that was funnier than I thought it had any right being.
And he was actually pretty hysterical on it.
So anyway, just putting it out of the universe, half-baked, colon, totally high, is out for you to rent never.
But that is going to do it for this episode.
Angelica, thanks, as always, for coming on.
You know, what's going on?
Tell people about madwomen and muses and what else you got floating around?
Obviously, you can find me at New York Magazine site, Vulture, reviewing tings, interviewing people, having fun.
And then you could check me out on my newsletter, Mad Women and Muses, which is on Substack.
Probably going to move from Substack soonish.
But, you know, I have fun there.
I make, like, letterbox lists to go with my Pee's.
probably my favorite
is the Movies
That Fuck list
and I'm starting a little
series or column I guess
you could say on my newsletter
called Movies That Fuck about
movies that fuck. Exactly
That is my energy as a critic
But yeah and you can find me on
Blue Sky just under my name
you know just having fun
reviewing things
live in life
Let me ask you this
that the list of movies that
fuck. How many Clif de Young
titles?
Zero.
All sucks a little bit,
1988, falls and a little bit, just a little bit.
A little fucking.
I don't know. I don't remember, but I hope so.
But yeah, that's where you can find me.
Always love coming on the show.
It was also nice getting to hang out with you guys
while I was in New York
a couple days ago.
R.L. Yeah, it was great. Which was absolutely fucking lovely. A great way to close out a really fun New York trip.
Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. But that is going to do for this episode, folks. As always, you get more content from us over on the Patreon. Patreon. Patreon.com slash we hate movies, where you can get episodes exactly like this one, ad free. That is right. Zero commercials on We hate movies episodes over on the Patreon.
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about the conversation.
Excellent way to sort of cap our two-film Gene Hackman tribute.
Amazing movie.
Steve, what did we do for animation damnation this month?
We did Jam and the Holograms, which was a wild episode about the Indy 500.
Yeah.
It was a great time.
I loved it.
I really did.
I loved it.
That's a great one.
The Gleap Glossary, we did a real OG from the prequels, huh?
Yes.
Noot Gunray, because trade routes are in dispute.
so we thought it was about time
we talked about him
and it was a really good time.
Real world's come to Star Wars, Eric,
it's happened finally.
That's right.
It's happened finally.
Also, over on Melrode 210,
we are seeing the conclusion
of Daddy Wars.
It has finally happened
and we're not going to spoil,
but a fiery end
to one of the competitors.
Competitors.
I mean, basically,
that was basically
what's going on with the daddies.
Yes.
That's true.
Yes, and of course we will be releasing a new episode of The Nexus,
which we are back to the regularly scheduled programming.
We did the two listener requested DS9 episodes last month.
We are back to Toastas and TNG, so right back where we left it.
The lesser track, sorry.
I know Eric was, you know, he's not really a Deep Space Nine head.
The moment you're asked, what did you say in that damn episode?
That was the first one I liked, because the only ones I've seen are the ones that people request on March.
Which are like the craziest, like weirdest ones.
It's not fair.
It's not a fair judgment.
The Nexus rule, me, me saying stuff on the Nexus is not binding.
No, it's not.
It better not be.
I'm like, you know, insane about Deep Space Nine.
I literally am reading a trilogy of Deep Space Nine.
Whoa, great out.
It's called Millennium.
you know it's major Cisco everyone's like it's just my crew I just love these gay ass weirdos that populate a space station that also has a bar and a mall and it's amazing
hell yeah and actually on mad women and muses was was that where you posted the tony todd thing yeah i did the episode that you wrote about
Yeah, I posted a remembrance of Tony Todd and I wrote about Candy Man and the episode you guys did The Visitor, which is very early in the fourth season, which like season four fucking Deep Space Nine, when you see motherfucking Avery Brooks has shaved his head, you're like, damn, he's like going full on head nigger in charge. Energy. I love this shit. I love this shit.
Y'all need to have me on the next episode, y'all like that D.S.
9 comes up
so I can be an
absolute fucking geek about it
I love the video
I think that's great
so we got it
we got to rig the next
listener request month
so that it's only
DS9 titles
but that's
going to do it for this week
as always though
next Tuesday the show rolls on
with a brand spanking new episode
that will have commercials
on the free feed
and none on the Patreon
Steve Sadek
what are we going to be talking about
oh boy it's Avengers
Age of Ultron
how about that
ladies and gentlemen
That's right.
Late period, James Spader doing anything for you?
Yes, every day.
Velvety voice in that movie.
I haven't seen this since release, so we'll see how it is.
Yes, but it is technically, we're starting off the summer blockbuster extravaganza
a month early.
What?
Yeah.
We were like, you know what?
Let's just do a lot of big movies.
Whatever, it gives it shit.
You like it.
So, yes, next week, James Spader voices a robot on Avengers Age of Ultron.
Until then, I've been Andrew Juppin.
say to Eric Siskin, Chris Cabin, Angelica Jade Bastien. Take it easy.
It's very good.