We Hate Movies - S15 Ep811: Sin City

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

“This is a Spike TV movie, right?” - Eric On this week’s episode, the Summer Blockbuster Extravaganza gets down and dirty for the all-or-nothing days as we chat about Robert Rodriguez’s still totally wild comic translation, Sin City! Thankfully, folks, this movie still looks totally rad! How eerie is Elijah Wood as Kevin? Even with as fun a ride as this is, did we really need to adapt every bit of the Miller sleaze vibes? Will Rodriguez ever get his edge back? How great is Mickey Rourke in this movie? Was having three different musicians do three different scores a good idea? Should the Hartigan story have been cut in two or should the film have been left as the triptych with the Hartnett character as the bookend? PLUS: Kurt Russell and the arctic crew from The Thing all check to see who’s The Thing by doing the asparagus pee test! Sin City stars Bruce Willis, Clive Owen, Mickey Rourke, Josh Hartnett, Rosario Dawson, Benicio Del Toro, Michael Clarke Duncan, Carla Gugino, Rutger Hauer, Jaime King, Tommy Flanagan, Nick Offerman, Marley Shelton, Nick Stahl, Elijah Wood, Devon Aoki, Alexis Bledel, Powers Boothe, and the late, great Michael Madsen as Bob; directed by Robert Rodriguez. [EDITOR’S NOTE: We recorded this episode on June 18, several weeks before we lost Michael Madsen. The guy was a total legend, a singular performer who gave us so many memorable film appearances that we’ve loved and quoted a ton over the years. We’ll miss the guy, gone way, way too soon. — Andrew] Our three-night, six-show residency at the Oxford Comedy Festival starts THIS FRIDAY, July 18th! We’ll be there through the 20th doing WHM, WLM, Animation Damnation, Gleep Glossary and Nexus shows! The Quantum of Solace and Hellraiser shows are sold out, so don’t wait, snag your tix now, UK! We’ll see you this weekend! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

This week on the program, it's the old days, it's the bad days, and indeed it may just be the all or nothing days, because we're talking Sin City. I'm the Andrew Bastard. He made me watch. Sin City, Stephen Tadak. Eric Sinska, grv, or Chris Cabin. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone in to the fine, to the first time, because you're a big fan of Sin City, Strap in. This is a comedy show where we take a movie Good, Bad, or Otherwise, and kind of poke it around for a little bit and make fun of it. And that's right.

This week, the summer blockbuster extravaganza continues. We're talking Sin City, big movie from 2005, directed by Robert Rodriguez. And some say Frank Miller. Still being into Sin City at this in the, in the, in 2025,

that would be a red alarm to me. That would be a big whirling. It's okay to like a movie. There was a sequel in 2014. It's not that crazy that someone could like it now. But also, to amend your director's list, Andrew, don't forget, Quentin Tarantino

was on set one day, so he sort of maybe directed one scene. Special guest director. Dude, yeah, I intentionally left that out because I don't count when Robert Rodriguez had fucking diarrhea and Quentin Tarantino had to step in, or whatever it actually is. Marketing ploy.

Marketing ploy. Big time. Because what's it had already happened? Grindhouse had already happened. And they'd combined powers for that movie. So I was like, you remember that? You were kind of interested in that. Now there's this. And he's here too.

Have you ever heard of lights, man? Do you know what? Like, different color of lights happen, man. Because it's black and white. But then you could put green and blue and red, just but like shades, man. Do you think Clive Owen was like, hey, Courtney, you want to put me in one of your real movies? Would you, this is all fun and all. Would you put me in one of your real movies, please?

Because that would be wonderful for me. Quinton being in this movie gives me such bad headaches I bet if I was in a Quentin Tarantino movie wouldn't have as many bad headaches Speaking of bad headaches What's that sound? Oh no Oh no

Back from the dead some may say It's happened quite again We are back It's happened quite again Did you say? Yeah I tripped up there Sorry for that. If I gave Steve the business,

I'm giving it to you, Game King. You can have that. We are back. VHS trailer game. Yes, we are. We are going to be doing VHS trailer game all the way into, this is going to be a rolling.

We really want to get everybody excited for these next couple because we're going to head into August for the big finale. We are going to be going through the history of the summer blockbusters with this final VHS trailer game. Extrapping,

which I am calling the VHS trailer Gamma Dorong which you know because we're going to be gladiators. We're going to be like gladi. So Sin City, the VHS did not exactly have the kind of trailers I wanted for this

here thing. So I went back to July 2nd, 2013 where we did SWAT. The Colin Farrell film SWAT. Colin Farrell, Samuel Jackson, the famous song featuring Sammy

L. Jackson. Oh, right. with Samuel Jackson That's right He was first of all It wasn't featured He was spoken about The song I want to be clear

He doesn't spit a verse I mean he was referenced He was in the chorus He's the front and center Of the chorus But to Steve's point He's not singing Oh that's fair

You wouldn't put featuring Samuel L Jackson in the music video credits In the thing You wouldn't get the Yeah the list is there Perthases Yes

What are we doing here What is this We are doing here? What is this? we are doing the VHS trailer game Eric the latest points we got here is Steve sitting pretty 47 Andrew 31 okay and Eric

24 sitting ugly hey you know we all plenty of time here plenty of time huge Jack Bauer fan that Eric Siska that's why I like that yeah oh yeah that's exactly why I was I planned on getting only 24 points sticking there um okay so round one everybody ready yes oh yeah okay this romantic comedy retains

the leads of a beloved 90s rom-com about entitled after a unique kind of musical entertainer okay so people that were famous for being in a rom-com in the distant past reunited in what And SWAT was, what, like, 2013, you said? No, 2003. And what is the second part of this clue? It's musicians. This romantic comedy reteams the leads of a beloved 90s rom-com about, entitled after, a unique kind of musical entertainer.

Oh, oh, oh. Stephen? No, I shouldn't have said it. It's not Rock of Ages, right? No, it is not. rom-com Oh, boy, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, yeah, yeah, do you want to, we're all punter? I want to go to number two.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait away, wait, wait, wait away, runaway bride? I think that was a little earlier. Okay, let's go down the line, Chris. Okay, Eric, where, whereas the 90s movie was all about the suburbs, this film is firmly on island time. Okay. Okay. Oh, 50 first dates?

Correct. Oh, well done, dude. The wedding singer. Wedding singer. Yes. Okay. Yeah, it looks like I don't like 24 that much, huh, Steve? You're coming right up. There's a lot of, there's a lot of game left as the game came. You have no idea how much game you're going to be gone through. Steve, we got to get you back in the saddle. Number two. Everybody ready?

yes okay this eccentric this eccentric family drama about the impending death of a patriarch signaled the eric uh royal tennemones incorrect oh okay you want to finish okay uh i'll go from the beginning this is the eccentric uh this eccentric family drama about the impending death of a patriarch signaled the end of the edgier years of this of an adored autore. From the early odds, edgier years, impending death of a patriarch.

While you guys think about it, you know, early odds impending death of a patriarch, you see why I thought royal tentative. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just talking to the audience now. Don't you guys chime in. I'm voting to kick it. I'm down to punt.

for sure. Okay, number two. The film was the director's follow-up to a disastrous but lucrative remake of a famous science fiction adventure film, which was covered on W.H.M. Oh, Christ. Edgy Guy, sci-fi remake. He's killing me. Fuck, yeah. God damn. I'm nowhere near it.

I got near it. I got nothing. Number three. The film gets its title from what the father did battle with on the same day his son was born. Stephen. Big Fish. There it is. Wow.

Of course. Tim Burton. Man, I got to rewatch that movie. And Planet of the Apes would be the sci-fi movie. Oh, sure. That's coming back from. Yeah, yeah. I'm not a big fan of that movie either way.

By the way, Big Fish. I know people liked it. I like that movie. Not crazy about it, but, you know, good little movie. I've been the last great Burton movie is A Sleepy Hollow Cam. That's my... I wouldn't argue much with that. Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that too much.

I like some of his other stuff, but hey. Yeah. Number three. Everybody ready? Yep. Sure. As I'll ever be. This horror-tinged action franchise spawned four sequels,

the last one of which was... Andrew? Resident Evil? Nope. Oh, Caw! See, I almost did it too. I almost buzzed in, but I was tricked last time. Andrew, you stupid bastard. With his castle politics is getting us. I'll start from the beginning.

This horror-tinged action franchise spawned four sequels, the last one of which was released in 2016. Oh, and son of a bitch. Well, it's the other one. You guys, it's the other one. other it's the other one okay the horror action franchise it's the other one i don't i really like draw the blank here man i'm the fucking other one god damn it andrew i don't know why i'm drawing like to you think oh this is good okay so want to put put putt it yeah put the filmmaker

behind the vampiric hit famously met his wife while casting this film unfortunately or not if you think you have a chance here fellas they divorce in 2019. Hmm. Oh. Oh, of course. Yeah, there it is. Steve.

It is underworld. There it is. Yes. It's the other one. Yes. And I don't have a chance with Kate Beckinsale. I'm pretty sure. David Bowie updates.

Stephen Sadek is not dating Kate Beckinsale. But I'm married. It doesn't even matter. Why would I even want to date Kate? He's also not married to Kate Beckinsale. Not to any. more, at least. Oh, no, no.

So everybody ready for number four? Yeah. Is this the last one or is there more after this? There's one more after this. Okay, I just want to know that I can come back. You got it. You don't worry, but baby, you got plenty of time. I need someone to work my shoulders while I'm doing this.

Oh, wouldn't that be nice? Look, I can't be that two places at once here. I can't be doing this. This Florida set action sequel up to the ante in many ways from its lucrative 90s predecessor, including Andrew. I swear to God if I fuck myself with this. Bad Boys 2? Correct. Oh, thank you.

There you go. See, I wanted to get that full fiver, you guys. That's why it's the race for the five. Fucking underworld. Fuck! You will forget about underworld. Everyone does. Oh, Lord. I'll tell you this. By the way, speaking of that 2016 movie really quickly,

when I got my first ever 4K TV, I was like, cool, let's see what like rental stuff looks. like on 4K. Oh, I rented that 2016 movie and it's embarrassing. Is that Rise of the Likens? Oh, I couldn't tell you, but it was terrible. Sure. No, that's Blood Wars. Oh, even better. Even more obscure. This, I want you guys to thank me after the way I had to word these. Okay. Last one. All right. First clue. This wildly unfortunate sports drama is one of the few films you can genuinely say couldn't be made today in the same way they made it in two.

2003 wildly unfortunate sports drama no that would be a comedy right and this is not a previous episode no it is not we oh no no way shit well I'm keeping my mouth closed yeah I'm gonna punt here

let's yeah let's kick the can okay though titled for the nickname of the lead character all the men in this Steven is it radio it is indeed radio yeah radio hey it's radio yeah we know radio oh radio yeah radio get in there god damn it radio and harris just yelling at him in that oh yeah radio i'm the fucking loving coach god damn it radio come on radio it's the rise of the lichens blood wars radio uh all right all right

That is it. That is it for this round. Very good work, guys. My fucking fat ass handed to me. God damn it. Well, you did all right, right? I got one. I got one. Yeah, I got one too, right? I got the secondary one and Steve was getting everything.

I'm getting everything. No, no. Each you go, well, he got three. It's fine. Chris, it's war. When you looked up the like the VHS trailer options on Sin City, was it like coming soon to, well, what's that? Oh, never mind, this format is dead Yeah, I just buy DVDs already What are you doing? A lot of those

Montages of all the different ones you can have Sure, yeah, I'm like, no, no, thank you for that. Coming soon to VHS, spend the fucking $90 and get a DVD player. Coming soon to the VHS, you're garbage man. Dead format. By the way, I know how to start this episode. There's a jump scare we start with. Oh, okay.

The Miramax logo. Yeah. Were you booing in your house? Of course, I have to. I'm a stand-up guy. I have to do that. I love that the first sound that you hear in this movie is a saxophone. That's something.

I'm curious, so what was everybody's deal with this movie when it came out? Obviously, we were Robert Rodriguez fans of varying degrees, but like, what was your, I'll start. I was familiar with the comic before the movie was in production. and it was like the older boy who was the movie theater manager who turned us on to like cool music and movies and whatever was like also a comic guy and he was like hey dumb kids

here's this thing and so I was like in it and then the movie was getting made and I was like buying up all the rest of the books like ooh which ones are the stories is going to be the movie so a comic guy had nothing better to do than talk to kids I was aware of the comics but I never read them and I was a big Rodriguez head

and that's kind of it I was always kind of curious about them, but I just, I just wasn't buying those kinds of comics yet, I think, was the idea. It was never a single issue. Like, it's just a graphic novel kind of stuff. The collection, that's what I did. Like, right before the movie came out, I think, like, maybe two months ahead of time, I, like, started reading them. And I just went through, like, three or four of them. I liked them all at the time.

You know, I think that was one of my first, like, actual graphic novels that I, like, was sitting down and reading through, not collections of comics from other. not trains. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, and I was, like, excited because I really did. I even, I even liked Once Upon a Time in Mexico at the time. Holy shit.

Yeah, I did. I never did that. I was smart enough to, no. I thumb my nose at that movie upon release and I was very proud of myself because I was a Rodriguez head. I was excited for this. I went out and saw this in the theater

and then I got some of the comics. They reissued some of them. Maybe those were trades. and, you know, so I was a little Sin City pilled for a while. I remember having it on Standard Def DVD. Definitely had this on Standard Def DVD. It was one of those big fat ones

because I think it came with a comic that you could take out. It was a soft cover. It was a cardboard soft cover. And the problem was it would crunch because then, like, you know what I mean? When the comic was out, there was nothing keeping it in shape there.

The interesting thing about this movie, and I think it's, this movie is an important movie in the history of film really in a lot of ways. So whether you like it or hate it. And I think what it does well, it's like now all we do is complete digital backgrounds.

Not all we do, but many movies, especially the big ones, all digital backgrounds. At least here it's for a reason. Do you know what I mean? It's not like, I don't know,

I need to make a bar in Tampa. It'll just be an all digital background. This is like, it's an unreal world and this is the way it looks because it's an all digital background. Someone did it before this, though. SkyCaptain was a year prior.

Yeah. It was so ill-received and I wonder, like, because looking at this, right, like, why this works is because, like, other green screen movies, right, the object of the, or the mission of the animators, right, is for, like, realism.

Like, we got to make this look like a real thing that we're putting in here because, like, map paintings aren't good enough anymore, so it's got to be real, real, real. and like this is unconcerned with that because it pulls the stylization of the book just directly out of the page and onto the screen which I think is amazing so like it's forgivable

but I think with SkyCaptain there wasn't like a direct source material to be like look they're doing a good job it's intentionally looking like this you know what I mean also it's just a it's hard to believe this but I think SkyCaptain's a weirder movie than this I've never seen it. I agree that I remember liking SkyCaptain I haven't gone back to it in a while just dropped on 4K I'm curious to pick that up.

Both movies, I think, are difficult transitions to home theater. I think both of them work really well on the big screen as a visual idea. But once you get to the small screen, it just looked like it didn't look good to me. I mean, the reason for what, SkyCaptator is Sin City or both of them. Both of them just didn't look good to me. I would say Sin City does look better because it is black and white, which is so forgiving. and I think it was a smart move obviously the comics were that

so it's a direct transition there while SkyCaptain is doing like a sepia tone type of thing yeah yeah and I mean like the I think the original sin of this movie isn't so much the digital bit of it which is you know again interesting

almost in a way that 28 days later is kind of interesting you know what I mean yeah oh yeah kind of way reasons but like it's directors trying things yeah exactly and the issue my thing is, and it's something I never like and it became kind of the style for a while which is like, oh no, no, no, no.

You need to use the comic book page to as the storyboard and every frame needs to be a frame. Be literal, right. And like that drove me nuts because I'm like, I read the fucking comic. Like, yeah. Take me someplace. You know what I mean? Like, this is so slavishly

adherent to what the Frank Miller's comics. There's no script. Like, literally he just, Rodriguez will tell you, like, it's literally just the comic put on screen here and there. What does he say he doesn't consider it an adaptation, he considers it a translation. Yes. In that, like, it's kind of cool, but I also call that a motion comic, which they do have those things. They're like, the comic kind of moves.

Yes. I'm bored to tears. But I've, dude, I've seen my fair share of motion comics, and they are not this. I know. And the other part of it is that I was kind of thinking about this, right? Like, if they just made, if they adapted Sin City, and it's just a gritty crime movie, I'm given way less of a shit. Like, I'm interested because it's Rodriguez trying to pull it off using the tech and using the style to make the book, you know, and like, it never, it never even crossed my mind to have a problem with it. It doesn't really bother me so much here.

Uh-huh. It works a bit of timid depending on the actor, but like in other things, like 300. Oh, sure. other you know that's exactly what you're talking about though steve is because it then everything is on the actors that's the only thing that can really change what's going on here is right bruce willis giving his shit just wanted to point out i don't know if he appears in the movie because i never saw it but robert rodriguez his current i mdb photo is him dressed up like in character from a dame to kill for like he's got a cool leather jubes

jacket on and like a detective hat and it's Sin City stylized. Get to the bottom of that bomb. Hell yeah. That box office point. It's interesting how people were, I mean, this was such a huge movie for guys who like movies, right? Yes.

Spike TV movie, right? Oh, man. Everyone was loving this. I mean, at least people I knew when I was in my 20s. And it's just so funny that that sequel just flatlined. Well, I mean, but you guys all brought your cardboard

signs that said tits with an exclamation point on. You're screening too, right? Yeah. Don't leave home without it dude. Of course, yeah. I went to see Sin City. I drank a monster energy drink and I went home and I watched Gary the Rat on Spike TV. I loved stuff for guys at the time. No.

No. We all loved Gary the Rat, right? Oh, Gary the Rat. But we start actually with the Josh Hartnett, Marley Shelton, bit, which is a very cool opening. This was the test footage. Frank Miller wasn't sure who's going to let Rodriguez do it.

Rodriguez got his buddies, Marley Shelton, who's in, what do you call it there? She's in... Planetare. She's a planeter. Heartnet was in the faculty.

And like, hey, let's come to my house. We'll do this green screen thing. It'll take a day. It looks great. It's really cool. And like, this is like kind of a dead period for the Hartnet world. You know what I mean?

Well, because this was, dude, this was post Pearl Harbor and that fucking sank a lot of things. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. For the Hart Netisance that we live in. a day that will live in infamy that Pearl Harbor movie I've said this before worse than the actual Pearl Harbor

and the uh the jerk off comedy or the anti-jerk off comedy 40 days and 40 nights yeah that's all that in theaters too holy moly that one and here this is a one that it's really small it's very contained and like it's just all pretty much all heart and it's narration and it's awesome you know what I mean like you get the cool the cool uh I love the when it goes reverse you know what I mean we just see the characters in white silhouette on a black screen is very deep. And you know, Rodriguez

only uses that a few times in this movie and like every single time he nails it. He nails it here. He nails it with Clive Owen going in the tar pit is another one that stands out. I really love this effect. I mean, the thing is is that when I tell a beautiful woman

I've been stalking you and watching you all night and this is a really boring party though, they kind of get eeked out. They don't seem to that. Josh Hartnett says it And somehow that's just, you know I wonder what the I wonder what the difference could be

I don't know You still had to shoot her though You know after that I tried to but the safety was on I don't know how to use these things Eric You dropped it She walked away looking disgust And you couldn't even kill her

Please stay Please stay That's the twist She's hired him to kill her For reasons unknown Which is very cool I wonder in her search, was it like, who's the hottest hitman in town? Like, the last thing I don't want to see is like, sorry, miss, my name's Stephen Thadak and

I'm here to kill you. Bang, bang. Or honestly, worse than Stephen Zanak coming to kill you in fucking Basin City, dude. Hey, I'm Marv and I'm here to kill you. Dude, and fucking Mickey Rourke showed up instead of Josh Hartnett, trade down. I'm going to choke the life Eddie. You know, like that you want more of a gun, sexy gun play. Yeah.

I really dig when he goes to light her cigarette and he flicks the lighter on when the lighter turns on her irises in her eyes go from like just black from the black and white to this nice green. I do like that there's no rules to that. The color is just, you know what I mean? We're not doing. It's not Schindler's list rules where it's like, oh, this little red dress and oh, my goodness. No, no. It's just. It's better this way.

You're right. You're right. Not a lot of similarities between Sin City and the Shindler's list. but very few. If you keep digging, I don't know. I could see Oscar Schindler walking around of this world for sure. The bad days, the all or nothing days.

A lot of swastikas in this film, also similar to Shidler's list. Very true. Very true. Black and white. We'll get there. I was with the guy at the time, and I still am.

I really like a lead of ballet angel. I do too, yeah. But I think I rolled my eyes incredibly hard when it said shot and cut by by Robbrens like that's his thing though I know but at that point I was just like he's a guy that went from like the video market where that was a necessary thing like yes mariachi and then he became a legitimate director and then he went back to making stuff in his backyard for better or

worse it's one of those things worse I like Rodriguez I have a lot of goodwill towards them obviously um well after that book of Bobafed I'm I'm kind of like uh enough of this guy and hypnotic hypnotic yeah there you go thank you very much previous episode, whatever the fuck that was. It just, he never has anything really to say is kind of the issue. You know what I mean? But like I, you know, I mean, sure,

I don't care if someone has something to say about if you're making like, shooting shooting movies and like you can say stuff and genre stuff absolutely. But I'm not, I don't know, Rodriguez was never a dude that I was like, you know, he used to be saying stuff and now he's not.

I mean, but like there's always been a rebellious even if they're like, he hasn't had like a particular, like, theme and, like, building all those things the same way. Although I think he does, for the most part, but, like, what has always been interesting, even in the big movies is the rebellious nature of it. Like, Elite Battle Angel feels like, like, honky. Like, it's kind of, like, throwing elbows a little bit. I like that about that.

And I like that about Planet Terror. I like that about from Dust Till Dawn. I even mostly like those machete movies. I'm not going to go and tell everybody, you got to see these things. Right. You know what? I had fun with those movies. Even Spy Kids is kind of a fuck you.

I mean, not that. it. Yeah. It's a fuck you that I said, got it. And I did, I didn't, you know what I mean? Like, I fuck you to the audience. No, it has a rebellious nature to it. You know, that like can kind of sort of buck up against like kid power vibes in those movies. But there is something about like, I don't know, there's a, there's a, grittiness is the wrong word. I don't know. Those Spy Kids movies have like an attitude to

them. Antig. Yeah. And it's like, okay, when you find out like they're directed by Robert Rodriguez, you'd be like, oh, actually that makes total sense. You know, thinking on the brinsons. To be fair, I never saw the Spy Kids movies. How about the adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girls? I've never been there. That's spitting in anyone's eye. Could you imagine a boy that's a shark? I can't.

A lava girl? I mean, a Lava boy is one thing, but a lava girl. I don't know what we're doing. I will say I don't care for the music this time around. The fart. We're going into like, you know, noirie bars and it's letting you know, Steve, that This is a cool movie. That's cool movie score.

I mean, also the weird thing is like he hired different dudes to do music in the different segments. He took the Bruce Willis one, which means, of course, like the movie is ending with, but then like, someone else did the shit for the Marv section and someone else did the shit for the Clive Owen section. And that's, that in itself is weird because like, I get you're doing different stories and. blah blah, blah. But like, you need more than just like the style and the setting to make it feel like it's all connected, you know? And music is a really easy way. A score is a

really easy way to do that. And I will say, I think that my issue this time around again, I used to love this when it came out. I would have given it like five stars in the letterbox. I think I'm down to about three, three and a half. And again, like I like this movie still. I just think it's too long now. It's like, it's so monotonous at points where it's like

I've gotten it. Like, just shave all of these stories by five, even 10 minutes. I agree with that completely. I feel like I would have done the exact same rating. Like, this was such a cool movie when I was in college and now it's down to a three or something because it does feel a little overlong. And if it was like 90 minutes

or an hour and 40 and we're getting through these vignettes kind of quickly, it'd be like, whoa, I can't believe what I just watched. But then, you know, when we're just like dealing with so much of this, it gets a little like once the IRA shows up in the Clive O.

But I was like, you know what? This has got to stop. We got to stop. Not even my beef with that segment. My biggest beef with that section is like some of those. And this is where it's like, the movie looks more or less fine. It looks good. I think the style is kind of held up surprisingly.

But some of those shots of like the girls in the alley above there, it's just like, PlayStation 2. It's PlayStation 2 shit. It looks exactly like chunky sky colors. And I'm like, some of it can get that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Oh, man, Eric, I had a thought to piggyback on something you were just saying.

Oh, I'm so sorry. The length. Oh, you know what I think. I'm not the IRA. What it does, when it did it for me, and I think it's kind of a misstep of the movie is cutting the hardigan part in two. And so then it's like, we're going back to Bruce Willis in the story. And it's like, all right. Well, eight years has passed, right?

And that's what they're trying to convey. I know, but it's like it's the same book. And it doesn't even start eight years in the future. it starts where it left off. So, like, just shorten that shit and make it one story. Marm is alive at the end. So it's not even like the movie is moving forward in time. You know what I mean?

Like, we're not getting this in any kind of linear. Which is, again, fine. It's just sort of like, yeah, splitting that one in half. And then when you're back, you're just kind of checking your watch. Like, oh, right, we have to go back to this thing. And also the other thing is, I think a thing that helps fix this a little bit. Because it, like, if you're insisting on chopping it up and compartmentalizing it, whatever your good friend quentin tarentino does this way better than you because he has that

literary bent to them you need like a title telling me that this is a different story because all of a sudden like once marve gets the electric chair you know boom we go on to clive owen's story and there's no like line of demarcation like we're going on to a next thing like yes you can follow it but there is something to be said about like just having that mental note of like now it's a second I would say even you know what you shave the beginning of the fucking a heartigan part. That's the part I think you can

shave down. I know this is going to hurt. I could take Lesnik's stall. I like the guy fine. I like him fine. But like what we know about this story is the yellow weird guy and you're waiting the yellow weird guy is like the last

big reveal of the movie. Chris it shows us that anyone could become a yellow weird guy, you know? Yeah, your rich, crooked father just has to do a bunch of science experiments on you because you got your dick shot off. And they're regrowing a dick, Chris. This is very fascinating. That's what I suppose. I would like that like keep cutting because and I think the other part is too, Andrew, to your point, it didn't even realize it. The pacing is off because the finality of each story is so big. Like, yeah, more of getting the electric chair and then like cut to black and now another story. I'm kind of exhausted already. You know what I mean?

a little bit like and maybe I don't know if one of these stories would have made a good movie like the Marv movie like blown out to a tight 85 minutes that might be kind of fun. Yeah, sure we'll never know. It's Mara or Hardigan that would be the two options. You know the thing

with Willis in this movie because like you know, Basin City it's just like a fake town whatever you don't really know where it's supposed to be. There's dock so there's a body of water somewhere I guess you know but it's interesting to me that of all the roles of all the times to not do this.

Bruce Willis, there's not a lick of New York, New Jersey, metro area in his voice. It's like, it's so flat and like, I don't think he was this flat again until like Moonrise Kingdom. Just that like, I am doing a zero accent character right here. And he's,

I mean, he's good, he's kind of up and down Willis is here. Like, I feel like he might get, he chuffs against the material occasionally and like grits his teeth and does it, but sometimes he can get there. Does that seem fair? Yeah, because I think I think it's probably, it was probably a mix of like, well, yeah, I'm used to like, I did Armageddon, so I know a big special effects movie. I've done, you know, a plethora of cop movies, sure, but now they're coming together.

Special effects and a cop thing. I don't know how to feel about this. I mean, I kind of get it because it is like one of the later ones of these, but it wasn't like, this is my final one. Like 16 blocks felt like this is my last time doing this shit. And this is going to be it. And it kind of was until he did like, after that, he does like secret agent shit and he shows up for little scenes and he's being horribly manipulated. Yes, the movies where the people were abusing him on set, don't get him. Yeah, yeah.

No, no, no. Yeah, but this was, this felt like the buildup and he might have been a little tired. I think, I think I would rather watch Sin City than 16 blocks. When I saw 16 blocks, I was like, please stop doing this, sir. But I mean, to look at his career around the time, it's like, it is, this is sort of a middling era for him. right like hostage the year the same year is a stay the fuck tuned apparently he's in lucky number

sloven after this he doesn't get another stay tuned I know Josh Hartnett also in that movie exactly but like before that he was doing he was leaning into some comedy with the whole 10 yards and all that he'd done that he'd had obviously the M. Night Shyamalan success and then it's funny because this movie's 05

I believe live free or die hard is 07 so it's like right back to it So, I mean, the whole thing here is he's trying to save 11-year-old Nancy Callahan. There's been a slew of child murders. And he is convinced that Rourke Jr. Nick Stahl, the son of the senator himself, Senator-work, very powerful in Basin City, is the perpetrator behind it. And, like, I almost called him Mads McElson.

Michael Madsen is like, you know, we probably shouldn't arrest this guy, right? Hardigan, Hardigan, why don't you take a beat? Hardigan. Hardigan, I'm crooked. Hardigan, heart again. Come on, Hartigan. Think of your child. Come on, Hotigan.

Think of your child now. Is that Maddickle? What is that? Think of Eileen. Think of Eileen back there with the stakes. Come on. He's chasing down Nick Stahl here. The great question mark?

I mean, I like Nick. I like Nick Stahl. He was missing for a while. They found him, right? That was like 20 years ago. That's all I remember about him is he was in this, Terminator 3, and then he was missing, presumed. dead. And that's why I was like, I forgot about him after that. In the bedroom is the one I

always think of with him. Carnival, of course. Carvall, a really good show. His dad's watching his balls in that movie, I think, or something. Is that right? Yeah. Is that a normal thing? Is that like your dad washes your balls? I guess it was a young boy. It would have had to have happened. Yeah, but if you're 17, I think you shouldn't be doing that. Also, Larry Clark should be anywhere near a fucking camera. Wait, was Larry Clark playing the dad? He was the director of the movie bully. I know. That was the joke was he watched the falls. Oh, I see a pervert. Well, Tom Brady might be

the dad now, right? He's kissing his son. I'm just behind now. But he's got little Nancy Callahan and I do love the you can't even lift that hammer. I just. Oh, and say that hammer. Yeah. So, oh, Canon. I think. Cannon. I'm sorry. You lift that

cannon. I love while he's running after him. He's like, oh, I don't know if that's a wicked spot of indigestion or a heart attack. And I'm like, What kind of life is that If you ate a bowl of chili And you think you might die Like that's it

That's it thing You know what Leave it go On the way to get to Nick Stahl He knocks out Nick Offerman Wow That was a shock Nick Offerman

And the other guy from Justified Rick Gomez Yes he's been a ton of shit And you know I don't like these Is malefluous the word These fucking just wordy characters You know what I mean It's like

They look like they could be dumb, but they've got a huge vocabulary. Isn't that funny? And I think also might be a gag in Robocop too. Also a Frank Miller thing. Well, the idea, and like he keeps, even like Harding and has to be like, they think that they're smart because they talk so much, but they're not. And I'm like, I know, man. Let's just fucking get on with it.

Yep, exactly. But yes, he, uh, he shoots off his ear and the great line of I take both, I take his weapons, both of them shoots his hand off, which is pretty cool. right that's great you shoot this dick off too shit his dick off you had a big bad way that's the other weapon you understand absolutely yeah I shot off his one

weapon then I shot off his other weapon and it's it's good Nick style just riding I'm like my fucking dicky and little Nancy Callahan is very thankful and this is when he is shot in the back by Bob oh yeah Bob shoots the shit out of him

and then he's fucking leaves and you know she'll be safe. Things go dark. I don't mind much. I'm going to go and eat your steak. Hardigan. I'm going to go home. And I'm going to fuck the shit of Eileen. That's what I'm going to do tonight. Yeah, Bruce Willis is talking all about

because it is like he's retiring after this and Eileen's got some big juicy steaks she got from the butcher. I'm like, yeah, let me see Eileen cooking some of that up. It's weird because he's got angina and his wife is like, you know what's going to help that? A piece of red meat. Why don't you die for me here?

That must be an age gap relationship. Right? Because he's supposed to be in his like 60 or pushing 60. And then eventually when she remarries when he's in jail, she has two kids. I'm assuming she's 40 or under. With Michael Madsen. It's unbelievable. That's not the most uncomfortable age gap relationship he enters in this film. So there. Well, is it a really, it didn't go on that long. I don't know. I think he successfully rebukes it for the most part. In a Frank Miller movie It could have got a whole lot worse The man was in jail for eight years Yes So he conks out on the dock And then we cut to Mickey Rourke's Mard

Right? Yes, yeah exactly The night is hot as hell She's telling me she wants me She smells like angels ought to smell And the perfect woman There's her boobers She's got tits and everything

The perfect woman Eric were these your opening lines when you were dating? That was my, that's my profile on the internet. Yeah, my dating profile said, The night is hot as hell. Why is Eric call himself Marv on OKCupid? What's this?

Oh, yeah. Oh, look out for Marv Siska. He loved that movie, dude. He was a 20-something-year-old. I think Mickey Roach's fake face here looks better than his real face now. Yes, absolutely. It really does.

Get this graphed on, sir. And I said that out of respect. Marv like Marv was like Yeah I look like One of the Easter Island statues But this is the face

God gave me Yes That's just where he left it This is He looked Current Mickey Rourke Is like Brundle fly

Before he turns into the fly Yes That last version The last When the two eyes Are still there You can still see it But it's about to go

Into the full fly It's a very bubbly Appearance And not bubbly And like Bright and fun Like as if it were perforated.

Yes, yeah. Yes. Also, can I, can I venture a guess, like, you could, if he wanted to go for the role, and I don't think he did, and I think by this point, we already had one of them out. But doesn't he kind of in this get-up, if it was not black and white, if he was all red, it's just kind of hellboy, right? Yeah, like he sort of looks like a hellboy a little bit, this fucking nose and the jaw and whatnot.

Yeah, he could totally just get this. Get the Marv surgery. I know you've had enough already, but why not another? And then you could start doing Ron Perlman rolls. This was, what do you call it there? And this did work because Robert Rodriguez was committed to giving Mickey Rourke another chance. He was in Once Upon a time in Mexico.

Remember he had that little dog with him? Yeah. Which I think that's like one of his real dogs, right? He's a little dog guy because he's not been expendables, too. It's a mistake to let him do the little dogs in your movies. I'm fine with little dogs, by the way, but it's just don't, once you start bringing attention to who the actor is, you ruin the whole thing. Well, Eric, to your point, I don't think these, the little dogs, I don't know if they're meeting the best of ends under his care. I'm sure he's probably cloning him, dude.

While they're living, while they're living, I'm sure they're having the best at times, but the ends are not nice. Wait, wait. probably. How is he killing his dogs, Chris? You know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I got to get into my files now. We have, we have a, we have a show to do here. I don't want to be. This is just like the time on the John Wick commentary where he tried to slander Carrie Ann Moss, God damn it. You got no fucking evidence on this guy. I did that in character, you son of the bitch.

Uh-huh. I wonder now, thinking about dog death is, like Beethoven could have been in the Sin City universe, right? Like, you know what I mean? You all are nothing days. Charles Grotis. He's biting Charles Groton's dick off. Marv is like, I got to test this bullet out of dog's fucking skull. He could definitely be a veterinarian in the world of this incident. Oh, definitely, dude, because he'd be like, he'd have the vet skills,

but then clearly also with a dude like this, he's the mob doctor. Yeah, I mean, yeah, to bring him out in. Yeah, I'll spay him too. That guy's got a bullet wound. I'll tender that in a second. This dog ate some string. I got to pull it out of his ass first. You're telling me you're trusting this guy with the rabbits.

I'm not. That's true. No, that's a lot of accidental neck breaks with those rabbits I bet. But this gets him his big comeback, which is the wrestler in 2008. You know what I mean? Like this movie was huge and it was like,

oh shit, Mickey Rourke is so good. And he, and like, he is full of disclosure. He's great. He's great. Very good in this movie.

He is the best part of the, yes, he's the best part of the best segment of this movie. He is like really giving it. And like, like, he's not embarrassed by it at all. Because that's, I think that's a little bit of what happened to some of these actors.

They're like, all right, I'll say it. You know what I mean? Like Bruce Willis is sort of half-hearted with this role. Yes, but he is, Mickey Rourke is so into it. Right, but I will say Bruce Willis is committed enough. It's not like he's completely checked out, like a cop-out, which was a cop-out.

Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, well, he fucking despised both Kevin Smith and Tracy Morgan on that movie. Well, could you imagine, like, I mean, Kevin Smith, I'm sure he's a great guy. I just, he's not like a director. He's not like an acting director, I should say, like, right? he's going to be like oh say the joke funny you're like I just did you can explain to Randall

whoever that guy off the street was how to do something Jeff Anderson yeah you can explain that to Jeff Anderson I don't know what do you use local crew and like people he knew yeah but like yeah like Kevin Smith he clearly was annoyed and didn't respect him so what are you going to do

at the same time though I don't know what's his face absolutely loved working with him on dogma Alan Rickman he's a professional he's promoting a movie Good, by the way, God bless him. Yes, God bless him and the best Kevin Smith movie. Probably, yeah, I would not, I would not fight you on that if you wanted to take that position. It's a great fucking movie.

He wakes up, Goldie is dead. And it's like, oh, crap, what happened again? Did I get confused? Oh, yeah. And this is a great, like, noir setup, right? Like, I woke up and she was dead, baby. Cold and dead. No strangle marks.

Nope, I would know him. I would know him. I had recognized my own work And this ain't me, Bubba. We should say Goldie, the sex worker that he's banging here is Jamie King and a dual role. This makes sense.

Jamie King, I think, right on the height of her powers with my name is Earl around this time. No, that's Jamie Presley, my friend. Oh, Jamie Presley. Ooh, wait, who the hell's Jamie King? She was like a model-turned actor. She was big in the maxim scene.

Oh, wait. So that means if I'm like into movies, for guys and TV for guys for guys I would know who that is yeah I guess she was a guys gal I thought she was a completely different person I mean she was an actress but I mean like I right while she was in white chicks

and my bloody Valentine remake that was after this and the spirit which was after this which is another oh dude the spirit I went right to the theater for the spirit like that's simp that's Frank Miller with the trading wheels off because no rubber Rodriguez you'd be like no Frank this is what you call cut you know

Yep, yep, Perrooney. Wow, she was also in Pearl Harbor. It looks like one of her early roles was Blow. She was in Blow. Slackers, if you remember that one. And of course, who could forget Bulletproof Monk? Who could, who couldn't? You see, by the way, important to note here,

as Marv and Goldie are going to sleep in the tacky-ass fuck motel, heart-shaped bed, here's, uh-oh, peering in through the door as they fall asleep, creepy ass Elijah Wood is Kevin. Yes. I like it. I love the stylization. I love the white out glasses and certain shots. Big time. And he never speaks in the movie

and like, you know what I mean? Like Elijah Wood is very gay to do this film. Oh, oh, yeah. And I mean, my dude, no fucking stranger to work in, you know, in and around green screens and shit. Maniacs Elijah Wood doing a weird old movie. Are you serious? That was pretty good.

That was a more recent one. But this is, he's coming off of, like, you know, Lord of the, almost said flies. What was it? The Rings. It's rings. I was going to say, Lord of the Thrones. No, that's the bullshit direct to streaming parody that no one saw.

Yes, this ain't Lord of the Thrones. It starred fucking Kevin Farley or some shit. The cops come. They're like a SWAT team and like he knows that he's set up. Really fun violence here with just like knocking people in the, A lot of nerd traumas. A lot of nut trauma. He jumps through this door.

It's a total hellboy move. They knock on the door and he's like, be right out. And then like the door explodes. It's this weird and like you just got to go with it in the world of Sin City. But like in some way that is unexplained and it doesn't matter, Marv is superhuman to some degree. He is.

And then he swan dives off of this like down down this stairwell. He grabs onto a banister which would never support his weight and pulls. him so back up real quick. I don't think so. That rickety piece of shit, no way. I mean, he goes that feet first into the cop car. I think it's really cool. I mean, that's the other thing, other than the actors, what really you can do with this is when you're doing the action scenes. You can get a lot of creativity and how you frame it, how the things are moving. And I think he does a pretty good job when he gets like really intense, except for it does turn into gun heavy towards the back half. Sure. It's also a baller move that he drives his car off the docks into

the bay and then swims out of it through a sewage pipe like back up into the street like he's Oswald Cobble Park like it's an awesome move not his car the police car oh it's a cop car oh that's right that's right yes you got to once you folks once you throw yourself

through the windshield of a police car and commandeer it I'll say definitely get rid of it soon after should get rid of it I'll be looking for that and I mean I think it's more of a this is harketing more to a noir ethos but you know as right wing as Frank Miller was, and certainly was

getting in the early aughts. He's ACAB in this movie. All caps, all cops are bastards in every story here. That's true. Well, except for Hardigan. Hardigan's a good guy. Hardigan's the one good guy. But he's betrayed by other cops. You know what I mean? Like, he's the one good cop. I like also,

speaking of the cops that come to the door and like they're all in like SWAT helmets and whatever. It has that vibe from the Matrix where like all the uniform cops are just like NPCs. Like, yes. The actual, yeah, like the meat potato badge wearing streetwalk and cops that are just dressed in swap material

the whole movie here. They all are just like these faceless Matrix Esk NPCs, which I kind of like that detail. It's kind of a nice prediction for the... I know this is not said in the future, but now all cops wear riot gear and all the times. I've been watching the news. Very army-like. Everybody

wants to look like their soldiers. The good news, Eric, is it's the bad days. It's the all-or-nothing days. Right now. It is indeed. It is indeed. We finally got there. Uh, he goes to Katie's to find info, uh, no, he goes to, he goes to see Lucille for Oh, that's right. The great Carla Gugino. And Lucille and her, and her girlfriend here both totally topless after a night of sweaty banging here. Oh, did you watch?

Did you watch the extended cut, Andrew, or no? I watched whatever was on Paramount Plus. Okay, that's the regular one. Okay, I was curious. Is there, is there an extended ass-to-ass scene that I missed? I don't know. There's, there's one that's two and a half hours long and I was curious if Oh, no, I didn't notice that on P-plus anywhere. It might be in the extras menu. I did not know that existed.

By the way, I like P-plus. I'm going to start using them. Do it, dude. Yeah, P-plus. What happens when I eat asparagus? That is so true. It's just, it's thicker, isn't it? You know, some people that doesn't happen to them?

Who? Really? I don't know. It's a genetic thing. Like some people that happens to your pee and other people, it doesn't. It's like cilantro. Yeah. That's how you detect the thing.

If your piss doesn't stink from asparagus, get out of here. We're all going to sit here and we're going to eat some asparagus, okay? Kurt Russell's just got the cowboy hat on. He's fired the sombrero. He's like, all right, you sons of bitches, we're all going to eat this asparagus. We're going to sit around the campfire and all piss in front of each other. You understand? Take your dick out and piss in this petri dish.

Well, I have to spend all the winter strapped to this fucking couch eating asparagus. Doc, you're going to piss on that petri dish. You understand me? Oh, it smells. It stinks. Docks. Docks clean. It smells good and heavy. Everything smells like asparagus pee. Nobody trusts anybody anymore. We're all very tired. And may I reiterate once again, it fucking stinks in here. I would love to eat any other vegetable right about now. Literally any other one I would take.

Delicious, though. Corabi, I would take corabi right now. I would eat a carabi raw. Don't let the piss frighten you. Enjoy your asparagus. Carlos, you know, is his benevolent, topless, uh, uh, lesbian, uh, parole officer. Parole officer who, yeah, her girlfriend is a therapist and, or a psychiatrist and gives him anti-psychotic medication of some kind. Correct. But I just love that he's just, he's popping these like tick tacks.

He's not eating with these. It's not like, you know. That's how pills work. Because you know what's going on. I think when, if Marv goes off those pills, in that big ass dome of his, is just the plot of the film identity. Oh, no. He's got a motel up there, you guys,

and them personalities are fighting one of them. I believe that. What I don't understand is, why don't they have, like, grape flavor and orange flavor and stuff that? I mean, I think I would enjoy that. Everybody would enjoy that. Marv was the type of guy that would like some Flintstones vitamins. Oh, hell yeah, dude.

Chewables annex, please. I got to say, this is a part of the movie where it was like, oh, yeah, this is shit. written by fucking Frank Miller because this is where he's like you know and this is the line now like she's a dyke

but she's so pretty she could have any man she wants like that fucking notion from assholes where it's like oh you're so pretty oh you're gay what a loss like to who fuck you Marv and it's just it's one of those lines that

like watching the movie now I'm like it's 2005 it's very it's very Frank Miller guess what Marv you could also probably have any man you want Oh, dude, totally. Yeah, but you're not going for it because you don't want it. So shut the fuck up about other people's preferences.

Whatever. And like, basically, she's like, you know, don't go too crazy. He takes his pills. He does give the all or nothing day's speech, which is, I mean, we make fun of it because it's fun to, it's a fun little bit in here. It's, it's blood by the gallon. I'm ready for war. We've been quoting this movie for so, for the entire run of this show. so we had to do this.

Absolutely, absolutely. And she's saying, like, by the way, Marv, like, if you're doing this, like, you're probably going to go back to jail for life if you get caught fucking around. And give me the pills, God damn it. You mean the pills. And now to do the best thing,

put more beer in my stomach. Let's go to the bar and see Shelley and Nancy and all my friends. All my friends at the bar. Dude, I guarantee you, if Marv had Instagram, He would He's commenting on Nancy in the morning

Good morning. Good morning. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. Fire emojis. Hello, my sunshine. But the difference is Nancy's Instagram is her being like, uh, had to clean up more puke off the bar floor last night. Good morning, sunshine.

That's a nice clean toilet. Sorry, that was me in the puke. Hello. Shelly's on vacation. You look beautiful. and sunny Acapulco Hope you have fun sweetheart Smiley face

What's your hotel? I want to send you a present Sorry Eric No no this is like we get this interlude With him at the bar Is that we're at now? Dwight is Clymouth is watching him or whatever He'd be right at home

But on an ancient battlefield Right Yes What is um Someone's face It's a very cool moment here When the And I think that that's

Sort of something The movie misses Is when everything kind of converges a little bit you kind of want a little bit more of it but they always kind of like peer in and peer out and then go back to a very narrow story

I find you know yeah yeah I mean because it's just it's just kind of keep into what the comics doing it like in the comic yeah you can draw Dwight in the background and it's like oh neat but in a movie if you see Clive Owen in the scene you expect him to engage in some way

because that's just how movies work so sure it's a little different there what is this line so the fucking bouncer here who he's new on the job he does not no Marv at all. And he says to Marv, did I get this right, your coat looks like Baghdad and so does your face.

Yes, that's what he says. Like, destroyed, bombed out. I guess, what is saying here? This takes place in, I guess, the odds. I mean, we do see a flip cell phone later. It's true. And it does specify that it is the United States, so it's not like just a, it's a

countryless city, fake world. I mean, it's whatever is happening in the crow is happening. It's about the same thing. So, yeah, it's a former industrial town that's gone downhill. He's got a fun runner where, like, he keeps taking people's jackets.

He's like, oh, you got a nice coat, which, you know, he's going to beat. This is the hitman. Yeah. Yes. He's like, oh, I love beating up hitman. You don't feel bad no matter what you do to him. It's kind of fun. I realize the other thing that is the annoying big tease with this is

not only does Clive Owen, like, appear in the scene, the voiceover that Marva's been doing this whole time gets hijacked by Dwight for like one line he's like the bar is open today or it's not that it's something to do with the scene but it's like one line it's more or less perfectly innocuous and then it goes back to Marv narrating and I'm like all right come on just don't do that to me I'm just happy I get to see someone dragged across pavement which is very nice in this little scene where he's pined up all of him and before he gets to Frank Miller in the confessional oh Frank man well I mean there's a

Yeah, I mean, we get, we get the guy dragged across the concrete because, yeah, he questions the hitman with the nice coat that he's going to steal. He's going to steal coats throughout this because everyone wears a leather trench coat because we were all impressed with a combo. The Columbine by Dave Columbine, Sin City by Frank Miller. But we not only, I wanted to mention this because before we get to the face dragged across the concrete while he's driving the car, he gives this guy Louie a swirly in the toilet and there's shit in the toilet There's turds There's turds in the toilet

This is the turd one, the piss ones later Okay, yes, the piss ones later Yeah, the piss one is Benisiel Also though, he's beating up that first guy Because he's like, all right, I'm going to work my way up the ranks Till I get me answers And he shoots this one dude And he goes, I shot you in the belly

I guess I aim too high And he shoots again And that is the second fucking dick shot this movie. There's so much dick trauma. Oh my god. Might be the most dick trauma in one film. Come on. Come on now. Maybe hard candy might be more. He thinks he spies her

here at one point very quickly. He's like, oh Goldie alive, no, I must be crazy or whatever. Drags the guy across the concrete, pretty great. And then yes, we get to this conventional. I killed three men tonight, father. I guess I'm working my way up the food chain. Hey, didn't you

write Robocop 2, father? you the scribe behind Robo Cup too. Yeah, I'm still scared when I think about it now and that one just rips its head off and starts screaming. Child drug dealer, just amazing stuff. This is incredible, incredible thoughts. So we were there for like all the stop motion stuff? Did you oversee that?

I find that fascinating. Do you meet Phil Tippett? What was going on there? Did Paul Verhoeven personally, smack you across the face I will say for a creator cameo

looking at you turn to you know Frank Miller's not bad here you know what I mean like it's just totally like this is house of God man like it could be worse Yes definitely could be Oh sure I'll file it under that

He could be using his fucking dipstick in old town Frank Miller also This is funny because Frank Miller playing this priest looks like the actor, I think, who played the priest that Matt Murdox go into in those first three Daredevil seasons. It's kind of the same

looking guy. And for a second, I was like, wait a second, what? Am I watching a Derek? No, all right. No, it's insensitive, never mind. Oh, you shoots him in the head, by the way, Blammo. After he gets the name Rourke and he's like, oh, it can't be that big, but no, it is. There's a farm out there. Yeah. Goldie, Goldie. He's like, oh, is that Goldie in a car? I love this him getting, and this is more like superhero shit.

She is, it's obviously spoiler that it's the twin sister, but like she's running him down in this car repeatedly and he is ping pong and all over the place like he's Super Mario. They take him to Old Town, you meet Gail, played by Rosario Dawson, Becky played by Alexis Bladale.

Yes, and Rosario Dawson in this movie, this might be the best anyone's ever looked in a movie in my book. It's pretty damn good. It's very striking. I enjoy it very much. And like she's like the dominatrix one, so she's like, I tied those not to myself kind of a thing, you know, like, it's basically Wendy is like public

information, like what, thinking that she, he killed her sister and he's like, I'm going to kill your sister. I loved her so much. Uh, right. This is also, uh, because he's gone, he's already gone to the farm at this point. Oh, has he? Oh, that's, sorry. Before he goes there and he, I love this, uh, people have died here the wrong way. That's a great line. And then I love the fucking wolf comes up and he's like, I got. no business with you pooch don't worry I don't want to kill you he smells blood on the wolf's

breath which is like I guess it's like a coppery smell I need to start smelling blood again is what I learned from this movie yeah dude it's it smells and tastes like pennies and then he finds the human bones or whatever and he gets snuck up on

by Kevin and he's like no one speaks up on me he must have snuck in the hotel room I can't believe him getting beaten up by Elizer Wood. These cauliflower ears hear everything. Son of a bitch, I got hitting the back of the head by North.

God damn it. He wasn't even the good son. He was in the good son. He was actually the good one of the good son. You know what? Let me see. You got any fancy paintings on them nails? Any nice anything on there? Dude, his fucking saber-tooth

nails that he's got. It is wild. It's distressing. Yes. So, then, like, you gets hit with the sledge ever, I blew it, Goldie. He wakes up in, yes, this, like, saw-esque bathroom, and Lucille is there captured with him. They've cut off her hand, and he's, like, eating it off. Like, Carla Gughey was like, yeah, he fucking, like, ate my fingers off my hand while I watched. He made me watch.

Yes, there's women's heads mounted on the wall. What if I wrote a thing where, like, we just had girls' heads on the ball? And then one had her hand. Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, put your penis away, please. I mean, like, you know, violence against women, it's a very noir thing. I understand, like, that's, that's of the milieu you're talking about. But again, in three stories, not what?

I mean, like, yes, obviously the sex workers in Old Town get their, get their fair share, but it's always, you know. After a little, uh, ha, hem. Steve, this is a movie for guys who like movies. good point. This is going to be airing on Spike TV ever heard of it. It's now the Paramount Network. The biggest I roll yeah right line in this movie is like Carla Gogginos is something something, you know, paying for it, sex worker, whatever it is.

Well, certainly, she's certainly not saying sex worker. No, no. No. No. The fucking Marv line is great. I didn't know she was a hooker. Yeah, okay, dude. Okay, Marv. I mean, they should have, for movies like this, they should have had Adam Carolla do like Mankowicz like intros to like this talk about yeah you know the

titan this one are phenomenal it's just absolutely fantastic titsiness yeah it's an okay movie but it was made by a Mexican so I guess you gotta forgive it for something Adam he was born in San Antonio Texas yeah but he's still a Mexican that whole man show

that was a fucking weird area 2005 was a weird time to be alive man crazy and you know jimmy kimmel to his credit ran the opposite direction from that after being famous for it and adam carola went the other way that was always one of those like uh false equivalencies with people if like you showed support for kimmel or like knocked corolla and be like oh yeah oh yeah fucking knocking corolla well you know he just did all that stuff on the man show with kimball and it's like yeah but the difference is corolla's still doing it you see now jimmy kimmel grew up and became an adult

you see. Now there are, yeah, there are tits in the age of innocence, but the movie overall has quite a lot to say about the time in which it was made and, you know, Daniel Day Lewis just knocks it right out of the park. Adam Carole, I'm going to bet he's never seen Martin Scorsese is the age of innocence. I just like the idea is all. No, but now I'm just trying to actually imagine him sitting down, putting his feet up with a bowl of popcorn and trying to watch that movie and I can't put it together. Daniel can't close the deal, huh? Can't do it. I mean, how hard can it be? She's disgraced. What a shame.

Oh, man. Well, I mean, where the fuck does Alice live, man? Where the fuck is she? Come on. Oh, he's going through all of them, I'd see. But, yeah, so, yes. They break out. They break out, and he's about the cops show up. This guy with this cool face tattoo who's just, like, nameless.

It doesn't say a word. Right, right, right, right. He's got a nice coat. That's a nice, that's a fine coat. wearing. Gugino thinks she's doing more of a favor. She knocks him out. She's like, listen, you're just going to get arrested. You know, putting it into this mayhem.

And she just gets murked by a fucking Uzi. It's like 80 in the chest with this fucking Uzi, dude. She's finished. But we get this great sequence of Marv using this hatchet on all these cops, which is pretty great. There's no sign of him. Here's a sign. Axe to the fucking taint.

Oh, dude, right in the taint. Good board. Oh, I was saving that for later. I think I would rather Kevin gets all of his arms and legs little ripped off and is eaten by his own dog I think I'd rather that that a hatchet to the taint

at full velocity probably yeah ripped off sawed off right yeah it depends yeah is the wolf like am I dying immediately am I feeling all of that because otherwise I'm fine

bleeding out from the taint because the wolf's gonna take a while I don't think the wolf's eaten that quickly I think I'm I'm hanging around for a while with that. No, thank you. But he does get a name out of all this, of course. Patrick Henry, Warwick, the most powerful man in the state. That is Rutger Hauer, who will meet in a bit.

We get the whole thing about like, oh, he could have been president, but he chose to serve God. His brother is the state senator. That's powers booth for later in the motion picture, you see. Well, it's a U.S. senator, so the full McGillow there, not just the state senator. And I love the narration of his rotten brother. He made his rotten brother. a U.S. Senator. Well, actually, in this world, senators are all powerful.

In our world, senators could get knocked around by ICE agents. Oh, of course. It just depends. You do have the thing of Marv here, sort of wondering, oh, shit, did I, like, imagine Goldie back there. I forgot. I didn't take my medicine. And this is where he is. He's basically like, yeah, and, you know,

as Lucille always would remind me, if I don't take my medicine, I will, become a bit of a psychopath. I get confused sometimes. I just don't understand why you can't make them look like Barney Rubble, what's so hard in making, you pay up someone to make them look nice. I want to eat something fun when I'm taking my medicine.

You know, I haven't taken my pills in a while. The fridge started jumping at me. I thought I was going to be on television. You know, Christopher McDonald was following me around saying, we got a winner. Does this train go to Madison Avenue? I'm walking across the stage. Oh, man. Yeah, so now he does go to Old Town.

He's looking around, he's asking the girls about Goldie, Goldie, Goldie, Goldie, Goldie, and then you see Goldie, K.A. Wendy, come out of nowhere and shoot him in the fucking head, man. And I love this, like, it's almost like the vertigo fall thing. Like, it's Marv, and he's falling in silhouette, and the background is, like, animated, sort of like a spiral behind him or is, like, hypnotic kind of spiral sort of thing. It's a really cool. Yes. And it's odd that, like, this is the only time that this is.

particular move happens the singular time someone has like a huge injury like that and they go into like a cartoon space for a second kind of cool and yeah he's being uh beaten up uh tied up and he just like he takes it and he like explains that he didn't kill it's kind of great he just stands up like whatever these ropes are garbage yep totally it's a very like you know it shows that he's like that that endears him to wendy because wendy's like he just stood there and took it you know blah, blah, blah. Like, he's like, I never hurt dames. Yeah, well, except in like 20 minutes when he fucking punches this very woman in the face.

Well, sure. Also, I kind of get hard when you're beating me up there. When I get a heel into the stomach, it feels good. It feels really good right there. But yeah, this is where we do meet Rosario as Gail and also Alexis Bladel as Becky. It is weird seeing an actress like her in this movie. One, because, yeah, it's not great. but also just like, I don't know,

it's weird seeing a Gilmore girl in a movie like this. She's still married to what's his face from Madman, I think so. Yeah, I think they are still happy together. Carthizer. Yes. So.

Oh, the divorce was finalized August 30th of 2022. Oh, is that right? Oh, too bad. Too bad. Yes, that's done. Oh, they disagreed about nope. Oh. I had different opinions

Many couples fell that day It was tough I know Look I happen to think it's a masterpiece But I know that's not Everybody's opinion on the matter It's pretty good You didn't have to divorce me over it

Look Yeah so Wendy is like Yeah I'm the twin sister We're gonna go for a drive I love her taking him to buy supplies Like we stop off at this hardware store And this little old guys Just like all right

So you've got a bunch of tubing here. Excellent. I'll write that down and gasoline and a saw. Okay. I'm going to have to ask Mr. Gower if we have any more razor wire. Okay, bandanas. Okay, we can get some of them. Do you want guns of any short? And can I help you with anything

else? Because you just, you seem to be buying up my whole store here. I love the whole line of like beefing up the old home security system. You bet your ass. It's a very cool visual guy because I remember certain pages of the comic I do remember like this is a very, was like a grid page all the cool stuff that he buys.

Here it's just sort of like one after another in black silhouette. And I love the shot of at the end. He goes through like the hatchet, Gladys, the name of the gun, and my mitts. And he's the shot of the hands is great. Big grotesque hands. And we go back to

the Kevin's farm here. Kevin's house. Is the house the farm also? It's the work family farm that I guess Cardinal Rourke allows Kevin to live at. and we just got to throw a Molotov cocktail right through this fucking window. It's awesome. I love, man, like Elijah Wood in this, I mean, he's so, ugh, he's like a feral animal, you know?

I mean, not just the nails, but, like, you know, Marv is using the Molotov to, like, get him to come out of the house and chase him. And, like, he jumps right over the razor wire. I'm like, oh, fuck, this guy's pretty smart. Damn, he's slick. Oh, slick, yeah. It's like an X-Men fight here, you know what I mean? Very much so, dude. Very kind of like slow-mo, sideways kicks and so on.

Oh, yeah. So did this up at like five stars for you? No, it did not, Eric. Thank you. Give me your little baby hands. Give me your little baby hand. He's jumping around like fucking night crawler, man. Yes, and exactly.

Yes, but he does grab him and handcuffs Kevin to himself, which is God, I love the line. Let's see ya, hop around now. Instantly punches him out. And then what Wendy shows up and wants to shoot. Kevin and he slaps her unconscious and stuff. Yeah, because she wants to just do him, get it over with. He's like, no, no, no, torture will be much better for the story.

I thought you said you never hit women. Well, I don't remember so good, you know. Well, I don't hit women unless they're doing something I don't want them to do, you see. Is it really hitting if you don't break their jaw? Come on, folks. Come on, folks. Just let me get my little dino pill out here and we'll be okay. now. All right, Dino, let's

power up. Ooh, it's cherry. Oh, boy. Yes, but he does cut off all of his limbs and, like, turn to get it with the tubing. Got to get it so that this friend of yours will come running. It's fucking awesome. Got a spurt or two in the air for

the scent. Oh, man. And, like, yeah, this wolf comes up, hungry as fuck, and just the crazy, like, you're seeing Elijah Wood start to like have his leg eaten by this thing. He doesn't move, and you just hear Marv just like he doesn't scream and it's just Elijah his eyes the glasses are not

like fogged out right here you see what are like cartoon eyes and all I can think about was he's much younger obviously in this movie this movie's 20 years old I'm looking at it though he looks like he could be on the poster for insidious with the way he's got the haircut and his like little boy eyes that are like creepy cartoony for some reason very much an insidious poster I can see that it's cool

he then goes finally to Rourke the Cardinal could have been the president but you know wanted this power you know we're having fun with the Catholic Church here as always and this is great I love like it's this crazy secured compound that he's got to get into

like he just doesn't live you know with some sort of middle of the road kind of outfit like it's a fucking castle man I mean Rutger Howie here, man. I mean, he's fucking shaved bald. It's eerie as hell. He's talking about

eating girls. Like, very, very extreme for a right. I joined in. They were all whores. Nobody missed them. Even your Goldie. Almost ruined everything. And, yeah. I do respect he's taking the Rapunzel suite. Right. At the top of the tower.

That seems like a nice place for him. But yeah, it's a nice little speech you give him before Marv. Like, do you even, we don't even see what happens to him really. No, we don't. I mean, that might be in the more extreme cut or something? I'm not sure. I guess that could be. But I mean, like, there's already extremities

in this dialogue, right? He felt the touch of God when he was eating people. He ate their souls, you see. Don't we see him like, like, on his head and there's blood like going on to Marv at some point? Something like that.

It's a splatter. He brings Kevin's head with him to this meeting and like throws it on the table. But I think he's doing like the eye puncture thing with him possibly because there's two spurts of blood that go on Mars' face after it. That's what Eric is talking about. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. So it must have been

yeah, I guess we get kind of edit happy when people are squeezing shit, huh? That's a real... You can't be squeezing, no, no. It's the grape rule. The hell I send him to must feel like heaven after what I did. Oh, yeah. And I like... And also, too, like he ate their souls, and I

joined in. So Rutger Hauer admitting to being complicit in the cannibal And then he goes, I love the line like, yeah, you think this is going to help you feel better, killing a helpless old fart. Just Rutger Howard is saying fart. Never thought that happened. I mean, he's really fun in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Like, genre stuff is always his, you know, and I mean, obviously he's a great actor, like all of his Danish movies, et cetera, et cetera. And like, obviously, the Blade Runner. But like, you just do a silly performance. Dutch, yeah. so the cops break in right after whatever he's done to him that we don't see in this cut and they shoot the shit out of him and you think like oh that's it for mar and i love this he wakes up on the operating table and you hear his internal monologue he's like ugh

jerks like he's visibly upset that they're fucking saving him it's so stupid what a waste of time we all know it's coming but we go through the motions yeah basically like they're trying to get a confession out of him to beat the shit out of him uh he won't do it but they start in his mother so he finally does do it and this is why like the end of the movie the Hardigan part it's so redundant here because like you get he's in the hospital

again they're keeping him alive for torture him they're fucking gonna get a confession out of their beating I've seen this an hour ago bearing the important part of this though he has a mother that's alive is it just a mountain

is that what it is it just a mountain that you in the middle of Sin City. No, you know, he was born out of for sure. Jesus. Movie love stunt cast and get Rosan in.

And my mom. And she's got that same huge Easter Island nose. Yeah, that's fine. That'll do. Me and Mom always love Chinese food and harmonicas. Playing cards around the table

while the other kids were annoying. And my father, Dan, the fattest one of all. They used to call me DJ back then, actually. When I turned 18, I put my thumbs into Dan's eyes. That was when I first met the penal system of America. He does that too old bouncer in this. I do love a thumb in the eyes bit.

It's always fun. It seems to love it. And then when I was 19, we won the lottery, but lived in the same small house for some reason. she comes to the jail and visits him Wendy does it's a weird like you can call me Goldie and you can fuck me and think that I'm you know my dead sister that's fine

it's nice it's a great gesture he gets fucking heart against steak before he fucking hits the fucking he's like oh yeah they cooked me up a real fine steak snuck me in a beer before they fucking zap me I do love the the priest that's trying to give

the last one. Can we get on with this shit? Oh, yeah, don't know. I love the other dude. You heard the man. Yeah, the first electrodes, you know, they go through him. It's the best you pans he's got or whatever. Oh, yeah, dude. Then they got to do another one. I love the, uh, the

puking blood from the electricity. Absolutely. Pretty great. And then when he finally eats shit, we zoom in on that eyeball and it's just, I mean, this is just, I remember the comic page very well. The panel here, it's like in the eyeball is, the shitty, tacky, heart-shaped mattress

and the two of them laying there peacefully. And you can picture Frank Miller on the typewriter, like, crying, like, oh, God damn it. This is the most romantic thing I've ever written. Sorry, shoddy, get in here. I'm going to find they give you all your back pay. Another 500 dollars, another 500 dollars.

And then this is where, like, because he's fucking dead, dude. and we need a Tarantino-esque like chapter two Jackie boys fuck up or whatever and because it's a whole new story right here it's straight up from a different book

Well just put up the big fat kill or whatever Yes, because I call it the big fat kill We know where we are Exactly just big honking text Exactly It's uh Benici del Toro as Jackie with all this He looks like fucking

Nicole Kidman in the hours Uh Just you know all this face makeup, all his face putty on. A lot of face putty. And of course, E.E. comes in here talking to the late Britney Murphy as Shelley the Barway Tris. She gets,

I mean, and I think almost everybody in this section is really great. She totally gets it. She is very good here. Like, it's just that like gangster mall voice. She does it, like, totally perfect. It's great. It's great. She was great, man. She was. Oh, yeah.

Real tragedy with her. They're going back and forth. He's got his buddies out there. He's like, me in and he's like, I could break this door down. You know what I mean? That whole thing. Yeah, he's trying to get into her apartment. He's humiliating me in front of my boys here. Why are you doing this?

I love Benicio and this. He's so much fun. He's so good. And of course, in the apartment with her is Dwight. This is Clive Owen. They're banging clearly. You know, Clive Owen is like sometimes you like jockeyed for a role so hard. You don't get it.

It ruins your career. Like him knock. getting Bond is like him not winning the presidency. He's like totally like cast off after that. And it's super tough because he's fucking awesome. He is. He's great. And this was like this was the longest I've seen him in a movie like in a while because I watched that fucking Daisy Ridley Window Warsher movie and he's he's under two minutes of screen time. He's in cleaner. Cleaner. That's what it's called. Yeah. It's like die hard but she's working for the cleaning company. Is he just like really bad to work with. What is going

on, right? I think I'll I don't know. It's a good question. I mean, like his American accent was never fantastic. So I think that might have heard any of them. Fair. But like he was in what the hell was that mini-series called? It was like two years ago now. Like murder

at the end of the world or something like that. Yeah, murder at the end of the world. He's playing the Sam Spade, right? No, that's a different thing. That's a monster spade. Yes. No, no, no. I haven't heard of any. He plays like a billionaire like fucking Elon kind of douchebag who's like oh I'm going to invite every like all these great thinkers

from around the world to come into my house and we're going to solve all of humanity's problems or whatever and then like someone starts killing people at this secluded mansion basically that he has like I don't think it's the Arctic Circle but it's like it's somewhere very maybe like somewhere

remotely in Iceland or something and so it's like this murder mystery but in like a very weird niche world I highly recommend pretty cool thing but he's like the guy in that which is nice but so you know he's basically like there's this great bit here

because she's like trying to get what you call Benicio to go away and he's like is there somebody in there with you baby and she goes oh it's an African love nest in here and the great Benicio line is like I'm no racist like he's just like he's not going to take the bait he's not taking it's African love fest

and then you can just hear him he goes well you know several of my friends like the line gets cut off but he is using the several of my friends line. It's very funny. It's very funny. Oh, and then she's, oh, that's what she says that. She's like, they're all the starters and half the bench of the Basin City basketball team.

Frank Miller. Dirk, der, d'ert, da, do. And he does come in with his guys. One of his guys, am I wrong here, has to be a reference to Tom Cruise and collateral. I was saying the same thing. Yeah, it looks identical. Shit, a little Vincent reference? Yes, like I don't, the sunglasses, the haircut.

Oh, interesting. Thinks he can make a hitman movie. And he's basically, Benicio's like, you know, you call up your friends, you're going to take my boys out, we're going to hit every club in town, and she's like, I don't know, dude, it's fucking 1130. I'm in for the night. Yeah, like even if we were on good terms, Jackie Boy, like hitting every bar in Basin City just sounds exhausting.

It's Thursday. I just had pizza. I'm done. I'm going to put on mad about you and be in bed in five minutes. I also just got fudge. I had an order of fudge. Come and I'm full. I'm real full from the fudge. I love her line because he's like, there was a man in here with you. Where is he? And she goes, he was Superman. He flew out the window because you scared him. Like she fucking knew what this movie was, man. She really did. Superman famously scared. guys you're really busting my balls here

you're really giving it to me so he goes in the bathroom to take a piss here and we see Dwight hiding in the shower and he comes out hi I'm Shelley's new boyfriend

and I'm out of my mind fucking great right he's got like the straight razor to his eye and this you ever seen on Shannon DeLoo yeah you made a mistake

yourself you didn't flush puts his head in the toilet. Second swirling of the film. Yes. He almost drowns here. And then once he finally is let up and clavones out of the room, he coughs up this water. And yes, we're coloring it yellow. We are sure coloring it yellow.

Like, man, oh man. Because the shot, I always in my head when I think about it, I think the shot is piss colored when you see Benetia's head in the toilet with the cigarette. But no, he comes up. And then he vomits up clearly piss. Yeah. and like cigarette ash and shit there is a butt floating around it's not great it's not a great situation uh but so like

Benicio is incensed he realizes it's not going to win so he he storms off clive owen is kind of hanging on the on the ledge there in very superhero mode yes and she's like you know we got to just let's stay in blah blah blah he's like no he's going to hurt someone tonight I'm going to follow him I'm going to make sure him and his friends aren't going to do anything to anybody and anybody and this she makes a reference to a previous book where she's like oh Dwight

like don't worry about that guy like he's from a like a while back before you showed up with that new face of yours yes he's got facial reconstruction surgeries something like that I've got my murder and converse on I'm going for it's either that or I'm going to the Interpol concert tonight one or the two will

be happening wasn't oh now what was the name of that movie where it was the little evil Superman. Didn't he have a little Red Conver's shoes on? Oh, Brightburn? Yeah, didn't Brightburn wear Red Combers? Possibly. I have no idea. Oh, okay. I thought that was a highlight

of Brightburn with his cool shoes, maybe not. Shelly was a waitress, and she was always fucking other guys. Boom, boom, bam, boom, bum, bum, bomb, bum, bum, bum, but yeah, so, like, he jumps down to follow him to do his car, and

she yells something. It's, and you get some good and again Clyde Owen's great in this sequence he's doing like all the narrations it says something it sounds like stop and we see her say stop later what it is now he's driving along here

the first of two times in this movie where like I love this like Basin City real corrupt fucking town man crooked cops left and right but we're also pulling people over for speeding and legitimate busted taillights sure I appreciate that it's pulled over twice in this movie

stay safe out there guys yeah it's just insane Some traffic laws would be wonderful. I don't, I feel like they never pull anyone over anymore. I see all these cops. They're not doing it. I see. I could be, I'm like, I'm like, I'd pull him over. I'd pull him over.

Yes, dear. I know you'd pull them all over. I know you pull them all over. I know, honey. Thank you. So he gets to, he gets to old town. He, uh, he doesn't have to kill this cop because Jackie boy intervenes by like speeding

by and, you know, almost hitting them or whatever. So the cop starts chasing him instead. Get to old town. where the ladies are the law whatever voice he's doing like just I know like he wasn't in the books obviously but like just let Dwight be fucking however Clive Owen talks

it's the facial reconstructive surgery oh yeah sometimes you have an accent sometimes you don't sometimes I mean like honestly honestly dentures will do it people who just start talking different with their fake chom-true that's true that's true um so Jackie boy boy driving through old town trying to

pick up a little strange She starts driving up alongside Becky here, Alexis Bledall, starts talking a lot of shit. She's like, oh, I don't do talk jobs, which is pretty funny. You're embarrassing me in front of my friends. We just came from a Michael Man costume contest. My buddy back there is collateral. I was going to be the key, but the fucking swastika was in the shop, man. I don't know what to do.

Oh, well, we'll lend you one. Just tell me where Lauren Graham lives. I'm asking politely now. I just need to know. I think she's an attractive lady. Come on. Stop humiliating me in front of my stupid friends. I was pretty excited that my buddy won the contest

because there was a guy with a pretty sick dragon tattoo on his back. And I was like, oh, man, we don't stand a chance. That's the Manhunter, baby. But, you know, Dwight's about to interview. Yeah, Gail is like, don't worry, we got this. Yeah, we got eyes on this pig. And we see Meeho, Devin Ayoki. the samurai girl with the cool great samurai sword obviously

hell yeah she's following on the rooftops like it's fucking godfather part too it's pretty cool and like you know it's gonna go bad and uh i do love when he pulls the gun it's a it's like it's bledells up and down in this but i do like oh sugar you just made the biggest mistake of your whole life and then all hell breaks loose the swastikas shrewkin is very bizarre it's a very frank miller detail i understand But what does that say about Meeho?

What is she trafficking? Well, I hear online, people always tell me this in my swastika forms that it was apparently a symbol somewhere else. Out east. Yes, it is. I don't know. Good swastikas. You have the good swastikas, sure.

Oh, you're saying her ninja star is shaped like a swastika? Oh, it absolutely is. Oh, I didn't even notice that. Oh, yeah. Majorly, yeah. And that's what cuts his hand off. And that's, which is great. And goes up to his ass later.

Yeah. Oh, he fucking sits on it, which is great. Yeah, but she's fucking sorting all of these dudes like through the roof of the car, whatever. It's a soft top car. She's stabbing him like Jason Borees. And then I love the fucking last guy like, oh shit. He's trying to climb out the driver's side. Cuts that fucker's head right off. Oh, it's awesome.

There's a, you know, he, Benicio is doing good comedy here. He's, he does fall on the swastika throwing star and he's like, this isn't funny. Don't anybody laugh. Don't pull the trick. figure, Jackie boy. She's blocked the barrel. It'll backfire.

Yeah, it's kind of like he's talking with vampire, like cheap vampire teeth in, basically. Yeah, totally. I was the last one to arrive at this costume contest. Yeah, like Vampire's Kiss. Oh, right. Totally. Or Martin.

But neither of those are Michael Mann movies. You got to get out of here. She doesn't cut his head off. She makes a pez dispenser out of him. Oh, no. Dude. I also love because when he shoots this thing off, the fucking part of the gun goes into his forehead. And he's just like, I can't see. I can't hear anything. And he's like just sitting on the ground like against the car. Benicio throwed a fastball man. And we just saw every time scheme. You can't. You can't touch that dude. You can't touch him.

I love him. It's fucking awesome when all the ladies like come down from their purchase and everybody's fucking stealing shit from all these dead guys, including Clive Owen who, oh, oh, Dwight. finds a wallet in Jackie Boy's pants, you son of a bitch. And it turns out Jackie Boy undercover cop, Detective Jack, Iron Jack Rafferty, hell yeah. God damn hero. Yes, a goddamn hero cop. Yes. And then Bernie Murphy, she did not say stop. She said cop.

He's a cop. Yes. Yes. Very cool moment here. But yeah, so the whole thing we learn here now is, uh-oh, they've killed a cop. there is this alliance between the cops or uh uh between the the ladies of old town and the and the cops which is like the cops keep the mafia you know away from fucking with their business or

whatever and they keep the cops paid off but now this truce is dunzo and the cops are not going to protect the girls of old town from the mafia coming in and uh but not if cliveone can dispose of the body before anyone find it it's got to get to lebraia baby yeah As the Lebrantar pits with So he takes a car and drives out there And this is the Tarantino scene It's a fun thing where like

Deltoro is in the front seat Because they packed up the trunk with all the dead bodies And somebody needs to be I would find I guess he's the most passable I guess is the idea Because the hair is covering Yeah like the only one without the you know His head is still somehow attached to his neck I mean to that point it's just like

This is the guy that him being wrecked recognized is going to be a problem for you. I don't know. Maybe Miho should just chop his face up up, you know? Or put him in the back seat. Oh, he's sleep. Put a blanket of, oh, my there it is. He's sleeping. You know. Slot him over a little bit.

It's easy. But yes, I love, like, Benicio like, coming to life. Like, Dwight is hallucinating, talking to him, which is just awesome. You shut the hell up, Jackie boy. You're dead. You were.

You were just a minor character in the Bored identity. I didn't even get into the main character. Dude, Benicio changing his voice sound for like when his head is tilted back and the air is coming out of the throat wound versus how it sounds when his chin is down low. It is such an awesome choice. Good detail, good detail. Looks like those hookers let you down. What are you going to do when you run out of gas called AAA?

This is great. almost like being in a buddy movie. You're going to have to wait until 2006 when children a man comes out finally. You're not going to win an Oscar. You're not going to be James Bond either. I hope you enjoy Hemingway and Gellhorn. Oh, Christ. No, I didn't.

He gets pulled over and I do love him like, fuck. oh my god have to kill this guy is a crooked cop or is he like one of the good ones with a family? Not just a family working stiff with a mortgage and a pile of kids. Oh sure. Yeah. That is that like awesome pulpy language that like he just left sounding like

1940s pulpy and not extreme Frank Miller pulpy. You know. I love, I'm the designated driver. It's fucking great. busted tail light let you off of the warning yeah so we get to this fight the car runs out of gas but he's got to push it

a quarter mile to these they keep just saying the pits the pits the pits and then when you get to it we're seeing these fucking dinosaur statues and immediately you're just like oh tar pits oh fuck and then the Irish come and this is really this is the

car craft and everybody knows it's so fucking unrealistic because dinosaurs did not exist at the same time as the Irish this is this whole exhibition is badness. Madness. Everybody knows lepracons are extinct long ago. And obviously

the Irish evolved from the dinosaurs after the blast. Come on now. It's yeah, to Christmas point, this is when you start checking your watch. Like, this one could move faster. Because it's just, there's a lot of back and forth with the Irish and like, here

comes Mijo to save the day. And some cool action sequences. No, no, but like 80 minutes in and the dad from rat catchers here to hang out, No, no, no. I was pretty pleased to see the dad from ratcatcher playing the head IRA guy here. He's great. Don't get me wrong. He's great. But the problem is, though, here's one of the problems. And this is, again, it's like, it's all just the fault of the edit. Like, when Dwight gets to the pit and you're like, cool, this scene is about to start. He gets shot in the shoulder. Yeah. And falls over. And then we go to this quick thing where Gail, it's, Rosario's character is calling for the, you know, the shutdown of Old Town. And this is where.

And this is where she gets grabbed by Manute, played by Michael Clark Duncan, rest in peace. And he's doing the whole, like, you're going to surrender old town to the cops, and you know, there's a new master, and that's going to be on Dwight's head. And I'm like, okay,

but the cool scene with the fucking tarpitt was starting. Can we get back to that, please? That would be nice. But so they do come back. Yeah, the one guy, the dad from Ratcatcher, I believe, is Murphy. But, yeah, they shoot him down and whatever, and they're, like, getting ready to do whatever with the body but uh-oh don't they find uh his badge and the or the the cop's badge

jacky boy's badge yeah and oh the bullet has lodged in the in the badge oh clive own starts shooting these dudes immediately it's fun and yeah miho comes to help him as well they're fighting each other and uh basically you know they they the the irish realized they don't need the whole body. They just need some proof so they take Jackie Boy's head off and now they're kind of running around with it. And this this one dude, Tommy Flanagan, the famous Tommy Flanagan with scars

on his face. It jumps down into the sewer. He's like the bomb guy. Bomb guys. Yeah. Yeah. Tommy Flanagan is the dead from wreck. Yes. This is the what do you call it there? The sewer level of Sin City. It's very difficult. You're on the surfboard. You've got to make sure

you stay on it. Right. Yeah. And like, like, Again, this is just some, the Frank Miller of it all, but this dude just being like, I actually don't like using guns. I just love blowing stuff up. And you're like, boy, do I fucking get it to, Frank. He's Irish. They love that.

They're like, oh, the bars and all the different, the churches I've, like, I know, I know the troubles. I know what's going on. I know it. Tickety clack, click clack, click clickety clack. Be an extreme. I'm going to kill Harry Lyme down here. I'm going to get it in my mind.

dude they just it turns out that like sin city is actually in austria for some reason please oh oh anything uh yeah but he says never give an irishman good cause for revenge but then uh miho comes in fucking ganks him and i love the clivo online she twisted the blade he can feel it and it's you know basically uh they have the head uh we we realize it looks bledell sets everybody up she's the rat that calls a minute and his guy who's kind of a thing yeah sold him out because they threatened her mom and I love Gail Rosario

just like fuck that you know we you know we could have protected your mom you did it for the money you fucking blue-eyed piece of shit yeah I hope you pay for Josh Hartnett to get her and the mother I want to go the mother's got to go the mother has got to go absolutely but this is awesome

dude fucking Rosario just biting a part of her neck off oh god And it's just one of those things We're like And it's difficult to call someone A crazy whore But like it's just It's weird out of Alexis Blodell's mouth

And she just doesn't have a great You crazy whore It's like It's like Mickey Mouse saying it It's just very crazy whore Sounds like Rory She still sounds like Rory Like exactly

Garsh The girl from Stars Hollow Called me a stupid whore Mick Hey Mick you drop your swastika Now now Mick if Lauren Graham had done that Wee dokey, I would have been

I've been lapping at my lips but nope. We also here we get also Nikki Kat here with the swastka on the forehead and he's paired with Clark Middleton from To Pete's the Return as well. That guy was in fringe

among other things. Law and order as well. They've both since passed away. RIP, Nikki Kat and him. But I love the Nikki Kat bit of getting an arrow through the heart and he's Guys, you look at this? You see what's going on here? You see this?

You see this? Get a look at this? Oh, man, it's awesome. And then Miho putting the fucking other arrow through the back of his head and it comes out the swastika on his forehead. His look is a very frank millery. It would be very well suited with the mutants from Dark Night Returns, like that group of that gang. The thin glass is the bald. I was going to say the glasses, you know, that's like the real, all those fucking, the whatever, the fucking who. Hoodlems in that comic sort of have those thin glasses, which is awesome.

But yeah, so then basically they go outside and this is, I guess it's like an actual 300 reference of the Spartan battle of like leading them, leading a big group into a very narrow area. And yeah, yeah. And they're going to do a trade here, right? Like Benicio's head for Gale is the switch off here. Trade happens. And then is it Bladel who starts screaming?

there wasn't tape on his mouth before. Right, yeah. Even after this part where she's already been sold out by the mafia and they're going to kill her as well, why are you helping them now? That last gas, like that pathetic, like maybe if I do this, they won't also eat my face off. Right, I guess so.

It's like anyone who tries to, you know, rise the ranks in fascism, dude, as soon as they're fucking not needed anymore, they will be true. It'll be different for me. Yeah. right yep exactly Dwight explodes the head because he got it from

the rat catcher dad yeah yes yes good good lines here from Michael Clark Duncan cute trick McCarthy but it'll do you know good that is a classic villain line

oh yeah and MCD's got it going on in this movie he's like doing this Shakespearean horse shit it's so fun yeah the explosion happens I love minute it's all like scarred here in this moment but then all the girls come up on the rooftop

and just shoot the shit out of all of these people. I do like the one-sex worker who's dressed like Zorro. She seems like a lot of fun. Yeah, she's great. I think she gets a name towards the end of the movie and then is summarily killed. Yeah, seconds later. Dallas?

Dallas. Yep. Exactly right. But yes, they all get murdered. And there's like a big, you know, Clive Owen's speech about my Valkyrie. My crazy nightmare girl friend. It's fucking awesome. I'm just sitting here watching this today. I'm like,

Weren't you just trying to date Britney Murphy? What do you do? You're a scumbag, pal. All right? He's a fuck boy. He's wearing those sneakers in 2005. You know where he's going.

He's going to Williamsburg. He's fucking everybody. A scumbag in Sin City. Eric Sisko. No, sir. No. I thought better. I put on my red chuck tailors and put,

I synced up the new LCD sound system to my iPod and went out to the L train. I was going to fuck everybody. tonight. I was going to fuck everybody from North 6 down to South 4th. You'll watch me do it now. I started telling these girls, yeah, daf punk is

playing at my house tonight. Yeah, but they, I mean, because it's the second time. They do some intense making out earlier in the movie before we cutting up all the bodies and putting them in the car and it's like, oh, like I loved her that one night or whatever. We had this insane

fucking violent passionate sex or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, I'd watch that. The two of them. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I was actually almost in mutual appreciation. Yeah. I'm big in the mumblecore scene. This will get me some tail right now in 2005. I was talking with Buzalski and Swanberg, actually.

I was going to do a crossover. Yeah, you might call me the third safti brother, Daddy Long Dick. I was supposed to play that weird lawyer in Beeswax, but then that guy with the weird face got it over me. I guess I shouldn't have changed my face. Oh, mutual appreciation. A much shorter black and white movie, if you know what I mean. You know, I was going to work on Lena Dunham's follow-up to tiny furniture, big chair.

But I got to confuse with that project from the Duplas brothers, the puffy chair. It just all went downhill from there. And then I just, and then, of course, I got the children of men's script, and I couldn't say no. But that's the end of that. And then we're back to Hardigan. He's in the hospital. And again, like, I feel like I saw this part already. You know what I mean?

This is where I'm like, oh, fuck. Come on. And, like, here comes the Great Powers booth here as Senator Rourke. They, you blew my son's nuts and his pecker off. He's in a coma. God damn it. We turned him into a yellow thinger, my jig. I just, I don't even know what to call it, to be honest, which it's got a gut, though.

And it's like, we're going to, we're keeping doing the, the most. the best money can buy to make you better again because you're going to take the call for all of it. Everyone's going to think you're a big old child molester and all this stuff. I love Powers Booth has these like, they're almost like cat eye contact lenses in. It's fucking terrifying.

He's looking really intimidating in this movie for an old dude. He's got the great line too. Once you have everybody agreeing with you about what they know to be untrue, that's when you know you got them by the balls. what a fucking line that hits home in 25 does it sure does but so then i mean again i've seen this part already they're trying to beat a confession out of him yep and there's this uh this dude

like they're beating him up but he's not going to confess who is this guy with the hairy back beaten the shit out of him i've seen him a bunch of stuff he's put a lot of cops i think law and order a lot we should say he's not given a name and so i was trying to look for him on i mdb but it's there's not hairy shouldered old man punching him we should I would say, I think this is Joe Chica, uh, excuse me. Joe Jude Chiochella, I think is, I would call it. Uh, uh, who's in a bunch of stuff. Oh, yeah, he's, yeah, he's, he is actually the cop in Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.

He's like, come on. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Levine, you know. Oh, weird. Okay. Uh, but, um, we should say Nancy comes in, uh, little Nancy and is like, I'm going to write you every week.

And he's like, don't do that. They're going to get you, you know. And he's like, well, she's like, oh, I'll write you in a pseudonym. this fun book I'm reading, I'll call myself Cordelia. It's like, all, you do that kid, whatever. He kind of doesn't assume that she will. He think, I do love the way he's like, yeah, whatever. Like he is being nice about it, but it's that like adult like, yeah, this little kid's full of shit.

And she's not going to actually keep up with that. But she does. She does. Yes. After not getting a confession out of, they keep in solitaire for eight years. And, but I keep giving him his mail, I guess. Even though they're illegally keeping him in solitaire. Mail call.

I mean, if you saw all the bills that are piling up in your absence that you're going to have to deal with, it's true. You might kill yourself. That might do it. That might drive you to it. In solitaire, are you kidding me? You are not hitting those minimum payments in solitary, dude. You're in huge fucking trouble. I don't know how they found me.

Selly Mae. They found me. Are you guys saying solitaire or solitary? I think it's solitary. Solitaire is the card game. Right. Yeah. Solitary confined.

He's probably playing a lot of solitaire while in solitary. Oh, he's playing with himself, that's for sure. But Nancy Trudeau-Word, writes all the letters, and it's the only thing keeping him sane. And then nine years later, uh-oh, he doesn't get a letter, but it's her a finger in the envelope that she's known to use. And the fucking yellow bastards just sitting in his cell like, how's it going?

I look like I should be in a fucking McDonald's commercial. I don't know what. I got to tell you, this was the biggest 180 for me. I remember, and again, I think I said this on Letterbox, I have not rewatched this movie since the George W. Bush administration. And I remember every single time I saw this movie up until today thinking that that was cool as shit. And when it came on screen today, I was like, absolutely fucking not.

You look like Big Bird got left in the microwave. Dude, this is disgusting in not a cool way. Talking about this recently, maybe on screen live, about the potential of a live action Simpsons in the future this is what it would look like. Yeah. Homer Simpson would look like a yellow

version of the alien from Nuky. That's exactly what a live action Homer Simpson would. He kind of looks like Jonathan Banks a little bit. Oh, yes, he does. Sure. Just a little like a yellow Jonathan Banks. I'm kind of saying with the face.

Walter, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, this guy smells awful like a garbage dumpster in the middle of summer. It's just the other thing, too. is like, so is he like rotting? Like, what is the smell? It's the experimental chemicals to regrow his dick.

Changed him. Yeah. That is a nice, convenient catch-all. Yeah, just re-graw. It's like the Joker. He's, oh, he's white because he fell in that vet. Oh, yeah, no, we tried to regrow his dick with the chemicals, so that's why he's different.

And he probably smells like shit, too. Oh, you know, they probably don't. You want to know how I got this dick? My daddy regrue it in a lab. Access chemicals Put this chemicals on my dick And it regrow And I think this is a bit of a like a weird

Like jump but like To get out of prison Hardigan does admit to doing Do raping all the These those girls and it's like Yeah I guess it's time served question mark Yes yes

Because you get out immediately You could Well yeah I mean I guess that's fair Yeah but he's been there eight years time sir I feel that that's fine You paid your debt to society, sir. You get paroled for raping and murdering multiple girls after eight years in prison. This is indeed Sin City.

I mean, you do need some line about, like, Rourke fucking, like, pulled a string to get me out of jail so I could be the guy. And everybody looks and is like, here's the fucking child molester. And yes, the whole scam of lead, you know, eventually he will lead us to. But why do you even care about Nancy anymore, Yelly? Well, because it's the principle of the thing. It's the one that got away. If you grew up, if you woke up every morning looking like fucking homer, like a, a Simpson's version of Jonathan Banks, you'd want revenge to, dude.

And you'd be, you'd plan it down to the fucking microcosm. Every single second would be perfect. If you looked like the toxic Avenger, but he was exclusively made out of old condoms. Yeah, you'd fucking feel that way. I just imagine him getting out of jail and having to fight like just these huge hordes of TikTok pedo hunters

like just waves of them like the old boy scene like just having to go through them like hammered down. Oh God the hallway. Yeah. Isn't it great that social media it is obsessed with pedophilia?

Isn't that a healthy thing to be focusing all your time on? I just think about that guy, what is the guy? what is the guy on that the John Wilson episode where he's like the fucking pedophile hunter or whatever it's like a season one episode

he like goes to the dude's house oh my god too much free time on these people he like goes to Nancy's apartment it's empty uh oh where he's you know like he thinks that she's been kidnapped so he goes to Katie's bar for information but

uh oh that's actually Nancy you got a good last Britney Murphy moment of just like she's on stage sugar, you know, whatever she's. Ice to the stage pilgrim. She's just warming up. Yes. And it's, here's Jessica Alba, who's, who was in the Marv

scene for like a hot minute too, but like this is like her moment. Oh, yeah, that's a weird, like Marv goes to her apartment for two seconds. They're like, how's it going? I'm like, I just want to let you know I'm going out to the farm. Yeah. But so here's, she's doing

dancing, you know, sexy dance. This was Max and Max. He loved it. Big time. this is all over the trailer this was her character poster image and then this is you get hard again and here I was expecting a thin little bookworm

were you dude at Sin City and his whole thing here is he realizes oh fuck like everybody was bluffing here they are just they want to find Nancy oh fuck there's the I love the yellow bastard behind him at the bar and then when he looks at the booth

the dude is gone and he's just like all right if i can get out of here as long as she doesn't recognize me once she recognizes me they'll see that recognition and know that she's actually nancy's they don't know what nancy looks like or anything like that and at the last second before bruce willis can get out of the bar she sees him and does this like jump off the bar coyote ugly style like into his arms right it's to make it out and i mean like i get it like that's i like willis's character does rebuff it but come on frank could we just like wouldn't it be kind of cool of a father-daughter relationship.

Well, it's not called Saint City, is it? Well, I mean, Eric's right. But also, like, it's Frank, isn't the point of Frank Miller as that he's never listened to the come on Franks? The Comon France have never worked on him. He doesn't listen to

Come on Franks. That doesn't happen. Did just find out his wife has moved on, has these two kids, this new guy. So, Madsen like drives him out of prison or whatever and he picks him up like he's fucking Elwood Blues and I'd be like, you can fucking get out of here. I'll walk back, dude.

By the way, I have bullet holes in my back. Yeah, with your fucking name on him, asshole. But so, yes, she takes him to his apartment, her apartment or whatever, and like they're kind of talk. Right? Is that how it goes? No, they're driving down the road here. Yellow bastard starts chasing them. We've got a big shoot out here. And this is a cool,

like, hardigans, like, he's just shoot happy. He's going to run out of ammo. I'm patient. And I wait. He's thrown away bullets like they were candy you know he doesn't know how to take his time aim careful and look the devil in the eye and that's when he shoots him in the throat yes that's pretty cool then he's like you know stop the car nancy we got to confirm the kill and then it's just this like sit in the car i'm going to go confirm the kill and she's like no i want to go with you nothing bad can happen to me when i'm with you and i'm like okay i know you're like now you're playing a 19 year old character but your mentality

is still firmly rooted in 11 yeah and you're saying shit like that it's a different character from the Marv scene. Like the Marv scene, she's like bebopin and scatting. And here, it's just like, daddy. Yes. I don't know. Also, the yellow bastard's blood

smells worse than he does. We learn. He also bleeds yellow. I mean, I guess so much in this experimental cock treatment made his blood run yellow. Oh, yeah. That'll happen.

That'll happen. So he's, yeah, he's gone. This is where they go to the, oh, yeah, the sirens. I used to welcome them. Now, you know, he's got to. Now we're going to run from him. Yeah.

they go to a motel here. Nancy wants to fuck. Nancy wants to fuck. There's a line here. It is the most overwritten fucking shit. He goes, I'm, as expected,

I'm a palsy victim doing brain surgery with a pipe wrench. That's like how Hardigan feels giving advice to someone. When it comes to reassuring a traumatized 19 year old, I'm as good as a palsy victim doing brain surgery with a pipe wrench. Cool, dude.

All right. Dennis Miller. Jesus. Babe. Like Caesar crossing the Rubicon over here in this motel. Brain surgery with the pipe wrench, eh, cha, cha. But the yellow bastard is stowed away in their car. Oh, don't you hate

that, Steve? You do, and he... Bob Twilliger style. He does. And he gets the drop on them. Hardigan wakes up hanging. Bruce Willis is in great shape here, by the way. This is... Looking good. Prime of Bruce Willis. Now, am I remembering

the book, I don't know if you guys remember, I'm pretty sure Hardigan is naked. I think he is naked in the book. That sounds right. Much like how the yellow bastard is naked in the barn at the end of this movie in the story and he's not wearing the Hulk purple shorts like Nick Stalls

got on. Yellow, the yellow bastard just cannot focus. You got you got this guy upside down. You got him hanging. Take the dick right now. Shoot the stick. He took yours. He's a stick to dick, dude. Now you got this thing.

It looks like soft-served mustard. You don't need that. It's the bad days. It all-or-nothing days. It's dick for dick and buy the gallons. Seems correct. But he does not. He does the supervillain thing of,

I will leave you to hang and I will. And don't worry. And the big thing the yellow bastards did to is making women scream. So he's like, you're going to scream. And like, because Hardigan, who's a man, told her not to scream, she will not scream. So that's good.

Also, the yellow bastard is sure to clarify here for Nancy that he's going to still do his yellow bastard routine to her, even though as he puts it, she's a little too old for him. Yeah, just a touch. Just to hear. At 19, babe. Oh, that's bad for him. That's so sad.

But as again, as we have said before, the movie's not called St. City, folks. That's right. Yep. Bruce Willis does the smart move of keeping his neck tight, which is something true. Of course. You've got to do that. You got to do your neck exercises every night, guys. Because when you're hung, you're

need those. What does that mean keeping your neck tight? I think you're using your neck cords. I mean, I think Chris is right. It's nothing. It's nothing. It's absolutely dog shit, bullshit. Anyway, he swings back and forth, breaks the window, gets some glass to cut the rope, of course, because he's a tough guy,

and tough guys do what they got to do. Hell yeah. Here comes struck and crump again, and there's a whole gag about the car, and there's no trunk car. We've got to move the body. Robbie, I know, I've been asking for a lot in this and you've been so good to me. I, it's Frank Miller here.

Can we make it so the glass he takes is also in the Nazi symbol? Can we get the swastika of glass when he cuts himself down? Just what, just one for old Frank here. I thought it looked like a lightning bolt. It does. But it could. Oh, but it could be. Also, two of them would be the SS symbol.

Yeah. There you go. They get two of them in there. Look at this way, Frank Miller. Anything can be a swastika if you put your mind to it. That's his credo. He drops, he gets a drop on. the two guys and I was in a car

racing towards. Again, I've seen this before. The fucking Rourke Farm, ladies and gentlemen. I was just here. It's like I'm playing a video game and I don't know where to go. I'm like, I guess I'll go back to the farm. Is that? Every cop on the force knows about the Rourke Farm and to stay away from it.

Yeah. But yeah, he's in there whipping her, calling her a big fat, ugly cow. Gagly cow. And this is where I was like, you fat Sheila. Oh, you big fat Shela? I'm watching it, and I'm just like, yeah, this is where his little fucking, fucking Play-Doh dick was on display in the book.

Where's my Play-O-Dick, God damn it. You got to get that R-R-rating, dude. Plato-Dick is going to get to the NC-17. Yeah, that's fucking unfortunate, man. But, yeah, Hardigan was right. You can't get it up unless I scream. She fucking yells at it, which is pretty good. Oh, you'll scream, you big ugly cow.

What about my Klingon knife? Is that doing anything for anybody? Glock. What? Gakha, I said, the language of the Greek, never mind. Guess I don't let you watch Star Trek in Old Town. But yes, here comes Bruce Willis. He gets the drop on him.

Oh, man, he rips his dick off to which the subtitles informed me sounded like squelching. Well, it's a real, it's a sound of making a balloon animal. It's a real squeaky, sloppy, scrape. If clowns would do that in public, ripping dicks off instead of making cartoon balloons animals? You'd have a season pass to the circus? Absolutely. I think a lot more away with them. A lot of them would be arrested too, I think, probably.

I don't know for sure, of course, but I'm pretty sure. It's a good moment, though, ripping this dick off. Thank you. Thank you. And then he starts punching him in the face. He got a good hardigan line here. He goes, I was punching him until it was just wet chunks of bone into the floorboards I was punching. Oh, but Nancy's safe

for now. Wouldn't you know it? He realizes that, you know, she's never going to be truly safe if he's around. The Rourke family will hound them both. He's like, oh, I'll see you later, Nancy. I'll be right behind you. You got on top of the cops. They'll trust me. And he just shoots himself and fucking hair. The bloodline is cut. You know, Warc is going to come after them over and over again. She's only safe if he's dead, which is true. Yep. No, it's totally true. And this is the third time the movie does the, I think it's, it could be more, but it's at least the third by Mike. Yeah. When he pulls the trigger, it turns into the white panel of the comment. Yeah, I think we do it once a story, which makes sense. Yeah. And then we cut to Alexis Bled. And this is like, man, I'm putting my fucking coat on, Frank. I saw the late showing, Frank. It's fucking late. They closed the concession stand two hours ago, dude. I get it, man.

but we're back at the hospital and Alexis Blodell's like on the phone like no mom it was just a clean break sprain thing I'm just gonna have a little cast on don't worry about it I'll be back to sit at the diner and talk rapidly with you in just a few short weeks

but uh oh she gets on the elevator and there's Josh Hartnett dude just dressed up like a doctor which is awesome yes great detail here he could have just been in a suit looking handsome but no no disguise looking great yeah i mean care for a smoke it's not i like the book end just because it's like why have that start at all if you're not sure sure that's fine yeah uh and it's great like she knows

what's up love you mom closes that flip phone closes the movie man it is a good last shot yeah it's cool you don't see or die you know what's going on like yeah frank miller's watching the movie like hey i thought we were supposed to see your fucking die robert yeah yeah uh fucking josh hart I'm supposed to bring out a swastika dagger Why is the phone a swastika? Why can we do that? Actually, if you look at the comic, Becky is a talking swastika

with a cute wig on? Oh, yeah, it's swasty. You can change the classic character spashty. We had swasty in the storyboards. They just said no to it. Hey, everybody. I was created by Frank Miller. Those Jews. My politics are inscrutable.

Frank Miller being sued by the Disney Corporation for infringement on Walt Disney's intellectual property. These are original drawings of swastity that he did back in his day. Exactly. And dinner dog. Flashback to like 78 seconds ago. Swastophone, isn't that what Trump's selling for $499? There you go. There it is.

That is the end of Cincinnati. here. We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts and I will be curious about the recommendations. Mr. Cisco, let's start with you. Yeah, it's a light recommend. I remember really enjoying this when it came out. I feel like it's definitely

diminished over time, but I actually had a decent enough time revisiting it today. I did not expect the visual effects to hold up as much as I thought they did because everything kind of just fits together. The black and white is a big aid there. But I did feel the runtime a little

bit and to our points, which what we said throughout the episode, it would be better maybe cutting a few things down, perhaps combining the heartigan thing and getting it out of the way or, you know, so it's still a light recommend. I had a decent enough time with it today. There you go. Chris Cabin. Yeah, I'm going to agree with most of what Eric said there. It's a light recommend. And most of it is nostalgia. Most of my enjoyment of this was just thinking about like seeing this in the theater and how like amped I was and how cool and because I don't, I really don't think it looks as good on the screen. There are certain scenes that I do think works still.

And again, once you have good actors, when it's, when you got Bruce Willis or Mickey Rourke doing stuff, it's much better than other people. Clyburn even kind of just seems like he's doing it. He's fine in all. Like, I'm not going to call that, I think. But just as compared to those who seem to like really understand what they're doing, what the world is. And, you know, it was nice to go back to it.

I'm never going to go back to the sequel or, the prequel or whatever the fuck that thing was. So it's nice to go back into this one, see if what it is. Probably won't for a while now after this. But yeah, a light recommend. There you go. Steve Sadek. Yeah, light recommend as well.

It's still, I was surprised, it held up in some parts. It didn't hold up in other parts. Some performances are great. I mean, it does make you, like, want to redo Clive Owen's a career again and get him some better roles. But, and also, like, you think about,

it's being of Clive Owen, like, movies like shoot em up were coming out at this time you know what i mean like i couldn't think of the title of and i was going to ask you guys what's that movie with him and giamati so look there was shit like this that certainly aged way worse you know what i mean like so for the style of the time i think it actually kind of works uh and it held up better and it is sort of like it again like it's kind of an important movie in film history that this all this digital stuff that you can see where it starts you know or where it was starting i should say that robert jiggins didn't invent the wheel here but you know it was starting here

Yeah. You know, just some of, we can cut this down. We can get it down to a buck 40, buck 45, we'd have a great time. And similarly, I do think academically a adaptation that is shot for shot, word for word, minute for minute of a comic book thing. They're different mediums. They should look different. They should feel different. There should be more expansion in a cinematic world.

I love, you know what I mean? Like reading a comic and like all of that. You're never going to recreate that entirely on screen and doing so is kind of a fool's error. and some there's a lot of fanboys that really want the the photorealistic shot for shot comic panel stuff this movie does it as good or better than most but at the same time I just think it's kind of a feudal enterprise but a light recommend for sure yeah it's a it's a light recommend for me too

it is not you know you know I think we all agree like if this was me in 2005 on letterbox it is five stars no doubt about it it was bad ass it was a badass time of the movies and like now yeah it didn't really hold up as well but still I think you know very interesting very I think historically important in the you know in the long running saga

of big budget Hollywood movies this was an interesting inflection point right here and I think it's kind of important to acknowledge that and I thought you know watching it on my TV I thought it still looked awesome I think like the parts that looked awesome really look awesome and the parts that yeah I was like oh maybe that didn't hold up still well I was like, but it's still kind of cool. So, yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I guess it's maybe a little more than a light recommend, but I would actually, what I would recommend is to get like the full experience maybe. And I'm not saying you got to read the whole collection. Pick one of the books and maybe just check it out. Maybe check out a little bit of it online or something just to see like where they're coming from. Because I feel like if, you know, this movie's 20 years old, people don't really remember those books. I mean, unless you were there or you're following Frank Miller now or whatever.

I feel like if you watched it without a contextualization of like this is how the comics look you might just be like what the fuck is going on with this movie like what are they doing you know because it is so direct like that but I will say Steve I didn't see it I think just because I'm you know I'm genuinely curious at this point and I've rewatched this one now sin city a dame to kill for from 2014 one hour and 42 minutes dude oh it's a tough one I'll be honest it's everywhere you want to be I know you you're going to watch it. I know in the next four days you're going to watch that movie. Oh, I definitely will.

No, I'll be sure to follow up. But that is the end of our conversation and re-appraisal of Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller Sin City. If you want more We Hate Movies, of course, check out the Patreon, which you can find at patreon.com slash we hate movies, where you can even get this very Sin City

episode commercial free on the $8 level and up. Oh, yeah. Ad-free. We hate movies every week on that Patreon. Also, this month, we had a really awesome we love movies celebrating another bigger inflection point in Hollywood history of course the 50th anniversary of the advent of the modern Hollywood blockbuster

that's right we did a we love movies episode all about Jaws holy hell that was a lot of fun this month also Eric Siska we're having a fun time on the Gleap glossary with a certain admiral. Yes Admiral Piot one of my favorite British guys in uniform we talk about him

and his character and what he's all about so be sure to tune into that fun Star Wars Shite show and catch up with our last month we did Andor Season 2. We talked about Andor Season 2 on that Gleap Glossary. Yes, on the animation damnation this month we did Fantastic 4. That's the 1990s cartoon show. There's a Roseanne joke in that. Absolutely.

We're talking about the moleman. It's a really fun episode. That was a good time. And Chris Cabin, Melro 210, things are going off the rails. Indeed, the Diet Pill, Kelly is really having a tough time with the diet pills and it's making for some not great episodes of TV but a great conversation uh to go with that that and also of course melrose place uh we're really starting to get into everybody's fucking everybody and everybody's trying to kill everybody it's going

full froth and i'm really having a hell of a time with it it is certainly the all or nothing days on melrose place i'm telling you that right uh and of course we have our uh star track recap show the nexus which is coming down the pike at the end of this month all of this on the patreon folks patreon.com slash we ate movies now as we say at the end of every episode next tuesday new episode is going to be rocking and rolling getting ready for you steve satic what piping hot pod are we delivering next week we're not leaving the comic store just yet because we're talking about the fantastic four from 2015 oh yeah we have been sitting on this one patiently like a mother hen trying to warm her egg to hatch and now it's ben 10 you

since Josh Trank's Fantastic Four came out and we're going to talk all about it. We are. It's going to be fun to tie into, of course, the new Marvel movie. There's a new Marvel out. It's supposed to be really good. What?

It's nuts. I heard it's nuts. Yes, Fantastic Four First Steps, of course, is coming out. So we're revisiting this much maligned and rightfully so. Fantastic Four adaptation next week on We Hate Movies. Until then, I've been Andrew Juppin. Stephen Sadek. Eric Siski.

Chris Gavin. take it easy