We Hate Movies - S15: On-Screen Live - 6.16.25 - M:I - The Final Reckoning, The Phoenician Scheme, and Predator Killer of Killers Reviews & More!

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

On this week's On-Screen Live, we're playing catch-up and chatting about some movies we've caught over the last couple weeks including Tom Cruise's final(?) bow as Ethan Hunt in Mission: Impossible - ...The Final Reckoning, along with the latest from Wes Anderson, The Phoenician Scheme, and Dan Trachtenberg's bloody, animated tryptic, Predator: Killer of Killers! PLUS: Two really solid Secret Movie™️ selections, one featuring Nic Cage -- The Surfer -- and another with Scott Adkins -- Diablo! Don’t miss our Superman II worldwide digital show happening THIS FRIDAY, June 20th, at 9pm/et! We’ll be doing the After Party Q&A right after the show too, which Patreon subscribers on the Belushi and Walsh tiers can bundle in with their show ticket for free! Can’t make it that night? No worries! The show and the Q&A will be available for replay for 14 days after air! Don’t wait, snag your tickets now! U.K. and European listeners: be sure to snag your tickets for our 3-night, 6-show residency at the Oxford Comedy Festival, happening this July 18-20! Two shows are already sold out, so you don't want to miss out! On-Screen Live airs Mondays at noon/eastern on our YouTube channel! Through December 2025, we’ll be donating all proceeds from our Tee-Public store to the Center for Reproductive Rights. Check out the WHM Merch Store featuring new GHOSTHEADS, Too Old for This Shit, Forrest the Universal Soldier, and Jack Kirby designs! Pick something up and support a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, my goodness gracious, what is going on, one and all. Welcome to WHM's on screen live. My name is Andrew Rubin, and this is show for Monday the 16th of June. I know we've been away for a little bit. Pretty busy this summer, y'all. Pretty busy. So we're happy to be back.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We got all four of us locked and loaded, ready to talk about movies. We're going to bring him in because we got a lot to talk about today. First up, let's see if that microphone's on missed. Do Stephen Sadek? I think it is, right? Had a little bit of Ethan Hunt to get here we were talking about. Yeah, dude. Of course, I always got, always do it.
Starting point is 00:00:57 By the way, I don't know if anyone saw it, but we watched the dubious. Brothers live on the Stephen Colbert show last week. Thanks to Howard for getting us this ticket. It's really nice guy. And Andrew had the best time watching the Doobie Brother. Everybody else, I don't know, that video that Eric Shade, Andrew was
Starting point is 00:01:14 the one that was into it. I mean, not that I wasn't into it, but I do want to commend you. You were, with abandon, you were into it. Oh, yeah. Oh, I will get going for live music, dude. Don't worry about it. And you get me clapping. You get me, you get me
Starting point is 00:01:30 watching a fucking majestic saxophone man walking around the stage? I'll fucking go ape shit, dude. Nothing. No shame. Again, I just, it's a level of, at the level I wish to achieve. I wish we, I should have pulled that video clip from Eric so we could have shown us
Starting point is 00:01:46 at the Colbert's show. Maybe we'll get that for the final show the season. Anyway, we got two other dudes who were with us at the Colbert taping last Monday. Here's one of them. He's got a hat on. He's Eric Cisca. Oh my God. This guy, going to go an apes shit. This guy's going ape shit. This wild dog. You guys ever read this book? Yeah. He's a
Starting point is 00:02:05 troublemaker. He just, I'll drive down the street shooting people. That's a superhero. What is he, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department? How is everyone doing today? Good. Good. I would argue that Chris and I are doing better than the two of you. I'll bring Chris in so we can discuss that. Here's Chris. Hi there. Eric, shouldn't it be, it's a podcaster. Shouldn't it be, it's a podcaster. be copier of cats there for reading right in front, right when we get to it. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But you never read Wild Dog did you? I never did. I have got a good breakdown from you and it does sound like, dude, it's the only event. He's the only superhero the Quad Cities ever had and they were better for it when Wild Dog was on the case.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Now, we should say, yes, the difference between me and Chris versus Eric and Steve is that Chris and I do not have COVID from the Colbert taping. Well, we don't know exactly where we got. Yeah, no, but I mean, like, yeah, no. As the time, Eric, I saw each other last week, and we also saw it with a bunch of boomers who never do what Vax even meant. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I guess is. Yes. That's where that happened. So I have COVID right now. Steve has COVID, and then there's going to be a comment on this video saying COVID isn't real. Coming up momentarily, don't worry. You know it, dude. Any second now.
Starting point is 00:03:28 hashtag guide suddenly you never know what I need to do is I need to diet suddenly I think that's what I'm going to be doing welcome back to the chat I'm so Rachel Rose E. Simon says 14 AJB super Rob Jamie Lochner Griffin Talbot great name Griffin Talbot
Starting point is 00:03:47 quick question is is AJB the Angelica Jade Bastien I believe it is that's so cool Thank you and if it's not thank you anyway Thanks for tuning in. People that haven't been on the show are very welcome to be in the comments. Just an FYI.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's discouraged, but you could do it. Angelica confirms. I'm sorry. Hey, Angelica. Angelica. Oh, it is, Angelica. Okay. Welcome, Joe Barrett.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And Tsar Oikie, Chase, Colafetti, all y'all in the chat. Let's get into it. We got a lot to talk about today. A lot to plug, of course, also some big news. as to what's going on this week. But first up, you know, it's been a while. I had to change out a whole lot of posters for this week's show. Let's talk about what was going on the box office weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:36 This weekend, I should say, this is highest gross. All right. Now, let's see what we got here. first up fifth in fifth still uh well still trying to pretend like it's uh relevant in anyway ballerina oh boy oh boy town do people see this one or no i have i've seen it it's really not good uh really okay i think i find it incredibly sauceless just absolutely without it that's what it looked like from the trailers i thought there was not enough sauce on there i wanted to sit it back to the chef but uh i heard some people liked it so you know if
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's okay to like a movie, obviously, but it just, it did not have winner written on it to me. It is the skeleton of a John Wick movie with Anna DeArmis in the role. Yeah. And if you're like without any like, you know, the thought put into the skeleton of the John Wick movie. So it's kind of disappointing. Yeah, speaking of disappointing, in its second week, it dropped 62% not a great hold whatsoever. It's a total QUM right now, 42 domestic, 92 global, and a $90 million. budget, not great for Lionsgate
Starting point is 00:05:57 and Friends. If we're talking about gold coins than the collecting of them, I would much rather watch a live action Mario Kart movie. Yes, exactly. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, hell yes. I want to see Sonic check into the Continental. Oh, dude, totally. That would be awesome. And then, like, him and Knuckles are like
Starting point is 00:06:13 going at it outside. And who's that? It's Mega Man. Look out. Hell yeah. I'm thinking I'm fireman now or whatever he would say. Yeah, that's right. I'm thinking I'm top man. Oh, and you must be wood. You must be woodman because you're
Starting point is 00:06:31 rotten. How many Mega Man villains can we name? Yeah, let's keep going. Let's keep going. This is the COVID fever. Iceman, Gemini Man. Oh, Gemini Man. With Dr. Wiley, of course. He's a villain. He was the ultimate villain.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, yeah. So it's like a genesis, the Boogerman, for sure. Different game. I was Booger Man this weekend. I got the green pellet of COVID. That was Booger man. I'm Booger. I'm still Boogerman. Remember that was when
Starting point is 00:07:05 you would get like an extra life in that game or a one up or whatever. He would go, Booger! Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a game. What a fucking time to be alive the 1990s. Anyway, in it for Tom Cruise and teams still rocking and rolling with the final reckoning here. Looking at I didn't put the fucking number in. How about
Starting point is 00:07:23 me? $10.3 million. There you go. 10.3 million looking at 166 domestic 507 global but this motherfucker is still at a $400 million budget. This is not going to break even. Can we see the poster one more time? You bet
Starting point is 00:07:39 your sweet buns. That was me watching the movie like oh that's what you're okay Oh, all right. Almost a smile. It's a smile. You're getting there. All right. We'll all get to it. Can I see the poster again real quick? So Steve you fell down on the way to the concession stand
Starting point is 00:07:55 is that what happened? Yeah, and I lost 30 pounds that I was much better. Oh, wow. Well, I took that header down the stairs going to the concession stand and they came up more handsome than ever before.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Same height, though. Same height. Only 30. Okay. All right. In at 3, this is the first new movie on the list here from 824 materialists.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Looking at, what did this motherfucker do here? $12 million. Actually, not too shabby. This was the third highest A2-4 debut. Chris Cabin, you're the only one that saw this. You want to do a capsule review. Take it away.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It is the worst thing you're going to see this year. Wow. I have such a hard time believing there's going to be something worse than this. It just doesn't make sense to me. Now, to be clear, if you're the type of person who's like, oh, the camera work is okay and like everything's moving the right way and that is a good movie, you are going to disagree with me. It looks, if you don't pay attention to what's going on, I could see somebody like, that was fine. I don't know what people are talking about. If you pay attention to what's going
Starting point is 00:09:04 on, it is unbelievable how empty this thing is. Really? Well, Chris, on the Thunderdome, it is just unbelievable that they allowed this. I read on the internet that you just didn't get it. Oh, that's real. That's possible. Yeah, sure. Right. Yeah, so maybe just didn't get it. I know, that's possible. Who said that? You? No, no, no. That is the biggest. A total nobody said it. It doesn't matter. The biggest, what do you call it there? The biggest problem I had this weekend having COVID was I couldn't go and see the materialist.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Me and my wife, especially as the reviews, as the reviews started coming in that nobody liked it, that Angelica didn't like it, that Chris absolutely despised it. I was like, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. I got so excited for it and that I had COVID. So we're going to go on Thursday. I think it is the movie you are looking for it, Steve. I know that for sure. thing I was thinking of, like, oh, Steve is going to be
Starting point is 00:09:57 tackling. You know, the funny thing is, is like, I, you know, I didn't see a trailer for this movie. I mean, I know Celine's song, I actually liked past lives, but like, I don't know a single thing what this movie is about. I know, like,
Starting point is 00:10:13 the three people who are in it, and that is it. I saw, I'm actually genuinely stunned that this was third of the box office. I saw, like, nothing for this anyway. Maybe it was just me. I saw almost no advertising for this. Wait, three, three people, Does Dakota Johnson qualify as a person? Chris Cabin, how was her performance?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Because I find her to have the personality of a desk chair in most of her roles. She is definitely not the issue here. Really? I don't think the actors in general are the issue, though I don't think, I think Chris Evans and Pedro Pascall are not good. She is just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:47 she's holding this thing together. It's not held together, so on that, I guess you could call it a failure. I want her to have a movie with Scott Eastwood. I think we're going to get these two together. Chair and car going at it. They've got to throw at each other.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Maybe. I mean, one day we might see that. Maybe when Madam Web 2 comes out. That might be it. Scott Eastwood as as car man. Sure. Our friend from the authorized podcast, Johnny Pomano, says he's got a rule of thumb.
Starting point is 00:11:16 You only sees one Pedro Pascal movie a year. Fair. So I guess, Johnny, are you saving it for a fantastic? Fantastic Four First Steps then? Is that the idea? Because I am. Yeah. Yeah, so that sounds like a big whiff there, Chris Cabin. But still three.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's tough. It's tough. But I got a question for truth. How are you splitting Fantastic Four and Eddington? Isn't that going to be? That's a tough call. True, true. He is in the Ariasster. Well, you watch half of one, you walk out, you go to the other.
Starting point is 00:11:49 That's the movie. Or you close your eyes every time he's on screen in one of them. You go to both. There you go like this. When somebody says read, you go like this. Oh, man. Coming in at number two, Lilo and Stitch, the live action remake.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I love, first of all, I love this. Look at this little guy. He's a terrible. Celebrate in the new year. I don't know. There's nothing to celebrate Lilo. Or is that Stitch? He's Stitch, I believe.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What's Lilo? A little girl. In week four, 15.5. million dollars the amazing thing about this check this shit out 366 million domestic 848 million globally not only did this clear the fucking board for whatever expenses they had for this movie
Starting point is 00:12:35 it cleared the board for the failure that was Snow White the Seven Doors so Disney back to doing okay after that huge bomb and now this coming in and saving it by the way I love that I've become grandpa well which one's Lilo what's that Stitch what's that dude what's oh the little girl's Lilo oh yeah now
Starting point is 00:12:54 what's a stitch it's like a blue dog right exactly you go to the blue dog movie with the little girl I got to spoil the next one but I know what was top of the box office and yet another live action animated remake which is a great sign for cinema by the way there you go sure I am curious like does this mean
Starting point is 00:13:14 and I heard some rumbling I don't know like I think mac Grading was like oh you know we're always kind of talking about a new Simpsons movie will we see a live action Simpsons movie before we get off this fucking rotten planet or what? I'd rather be dead. I'm with you. I'm with Andrew on that one. It's going to happen. I'm sorry folks, but it's
Starting point is 00:13:32 only going to be stuff. Stuff you know. Here's the thing though. I mean, the only way you can feasibly do it to make it even remotely watchable is if you're dubbing whatever fucking fleshbags you get to play these characters with the
Starting point is 00:13:50 voice actors because that whole show is tied to the brilliance of the voice actors and if you're not having Dan Castellanetta in a fucking fat suit like I don't know what you're doing that's one side of it but the other side of it is that like what these live action things have been doing more or less
Starting point is 00:14:06 is been taking out like the imagination and the design like the inventiveness of all that stuff that goes into these and then you have like a normal looking dragon and how to train your dragon it doesn't look like a goofy little thing but something like this
Starting point is 00:14:22 who I really I really want to know who wants to see a like a kind of accurate depiction of Homer Simpson and the family like who would ever want to see that it's going to happen there's already look look there's already like a video I've seen it someone made like a fake like fan like it's the opening to the Simpsons in live action and it looked fucking horrible so like if you need any indicator of like what that would be find that video want to punch yourself in the crotch for two minutes and that's what it'll be like just feature link I have no desire to see that I'll bet Broadway show first oh that's good that would be great that's fine you want to do that you go right ahead oh my assholes bleeding already just thinking about it at least uh well what's his name who did all the music passed away but like all those great tunes like oh yeah smashed into one simpson's thing it's kind of surprising that actually hasn't happened yeah exactly alf claus that i want to say his name yes he's just died recently
Starting point is 00:15:23 yeah he did quick question about that to the how you're to train to train your dragon fans did you almost
Starting point is 00:15:28 say how to drain your dragon because I'll tell you how to do that in four easy steps the browsers XXXX this ain't your
Starting point is 00:15:36 how to train the dragon how to swap your son no the question is why are some people Scottish and other people like why is
Starting point is 00:15:45 big old general bootlet of talking like this and everyone else is just talking normal like American wise
Starting point is 00:15:51 Oh, is that what's going on? I don't even know. Ask that about any Gerard Butler movie, right? No, but he's like doing it big, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I just don't. It's a silly voice. I think for kids, it's a silly voice, and it's not really like, oh, well, what's the difference?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Is that, that's an American, that's an English, and that's a Scotsman, and they're all together. Got it. It's funny accents. I mean, it's why there's like a bunch of, there's a bevy of accents in Star Wars. It's true. Yeah, it's true. It's just is what it is. Listen, I'd rather have Gerard just speaking like he speaks, maybe like, you know, cartoonishly a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But, like, I'd prefer that versus him trying to be Mike banning and flatten that accent out. We got a real comment. Greg Whitehead says it's an assortment of dragon killers from various regions. So it is brought up in the film. There you go. There it is. Question I had asked. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Appreciate it. Greg Whitehead fucking set you straight, Steve. I don't need all the jokes. all the time. A real answer will take take me very far. $83.7 million for this fucking creatively bankrupt shit. And
Starting point is 00:17:00 marking the biggest summer opening for a movie topping Thunderbolts which was $74 million. And the thing is, it'll be interesting to see what happens to this guy. It's going to run up against competition immediately that new Pixar movie, Elio opens this Friday and it's a little kid
Starting point is 00:17:17 meat and gleepclops or whatever. Really? No, I don't know where my... I think it might hold I mean this is the first time I've heard about that Pixar movie and I'm in the business look at me I'm in the business Yeah You're not wrong there dude
Starting point is 00:17:31 It could easily be that yeah Because it is a known quantity whereas Elio is absolutely not I don't even know what that movie's about At this point No and like I have usually known What like Encanto Or the bones
Starting point is 00:17:44 Two The name of it Uh For that Coco Coco yeah Well, to be fair to it, I saw a little thing on like Disney Plus and it's like a little kid that like meets aliens
Starting point is 00:17:58 or something like that. It looks kind of neat. You know, it's an interesting thing and it's not a fifth toy story movie. So like... That is, I give them that. That they haven't gone. I mean, they are doing that still. They are. Exactly. Fully gone that way. I do wonder though, since this is now DreamWorks doing the Disney thing of let's do our live action version of our biggest animated thing, are you going to start seeing like the small, like are we going to get the nut job live action if this, like to see if that works for another
Starting point is 00:18:26 I got a link for that. I got a link for that it's porn hub. Oh really? Well, what you get what you're, what you're forgetting there, what you're forgetting there of course, DreamWorks, we already had a stage musical of it. Shrek is right there. Sure. Right. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. But we're continuing
Starting point is 00:18:42 Shrek. Oh, maybe we're doing both because we are doing a fifth Shrek it sounded like or a re- Yep, a remaking of Shrek and then it's coming. It's coming. action track. You know what I'd like to see a little live action Monsters versus Alien and get a real live action giant woman
Starting point is 00:18:57 sure. What, there's a giant woman in that movie? Yes, there is. Monsters versus aliens. There's a giant woman in that one. She turns giant. I think it's Rees Witherspoon. I think it is Rees Witherspoon. She crushes men like bugs. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Worms beneath their feet. Sounds like you're getting more into it by the second. absolutely hey this Friday what are you guys doing I'm getting dinner with a friend no you're not
Starting point is 00:19:28 we are going to be right here on the internet of course 9 p.m. we got a Superman 2 live show going on y'all this is going to be a lot of fun this Friday the 20th 9 p.m. Eastern we're going to be doing that and
Starting point is 00:19:46 whoops and it's going to be everything you wanted to be in more talking about Superman fucking two one of the most divisive superhero sequels of all time I feel one of my most top five most watched movies of all time for me like I've seen this movie
Starting point is 00:19:59 have you seen it more than part one yes for sure I've seen it more than part one too I mean this was on a lot when we were young for you people it was eons ago aons ago ask your grandparents
Starting point is 00:20:13 when that was on television but I saw it so many times and I always loved it because those villains are so great. And we're going to go through. It's going to be a full episode. We're going to talk about both versions, compare, contrast, have some fun, have some laughs.
Starting point is 00:20:27 There's an after party where we're going to get sloppy out. Slop city, and we're going to be answering your questions. You know, so you buy a ticket. They prompt you for a thing. Hey, you want to ask a question? Fill it out there. Or if you're a patron, we will be putting out a thing on Patreon saying, hey, list of your Patreon cues here.
Starting point is 00:20:45 We'll do that there too. And yeah, 14-day replay. the fact if you can't make it Friday night. And that includes both the show and the replay the after party Q&A. What are you doing on Friday night? What are you going to do? You see friends. You're going to see us. You want to see us. You're your friends. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yes. Come on. Do you like games? Stop. No, stop. We are the only people that don't talk behind your back. Think about that. Think about that before you go out Friday night. And if you're going on a date, that boy or girl doesn't don't even like you. They probably don't. It's all bad. You've been
Starting point is 00:21:17 just a bet to them. By the way, also we should say it's available to, like for 14 days after the event you can still get in on the fun and check it out. But that boy or girl still don't like it. I mean, you can go on the date if you want and then do the thing, but they don't like you. You were just
Starting point is 00:21:34 a bet to them. You were just a bet. That was, it was like, they're laughing at you. They're laughing right now. They're laughing right now. They're talking behind your back. They're laughing right now. And also, man, this is not, so we got a live stream here. We got a live stream at the end of the week. We also got a live stream going on tomorrow because for the first time
Starting point is 00:21:49 in a long time, we're bringing back WHM Mailbag. We're opening that sucker tomorrow night, y'all at 6 p.m. Eastern you know, don't worry, it'll be up on YouTube if you don't make it right away. Your trauma stories. I need it now. Your embarrassments, your traumas.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Get them fucking too sweet to our fucking Gmail account. Preferably related to like going to the movies or a video store or at home screening experience, but it doesn't have to be. If you got a story about vomit, I would love to hear that. that's great um also if you've sent a story before and it hasn't been on the air but you think it should be send it again stuff gets cluttered in that email box so stuff our box and honestly
Starting point is 00:22:29 all four of us are licensed therapists and so is our mailbag so that's right lay down it's all it's it's all going to be fine it's all totally confidential oh yeah yeah absolutely uh yes we all hate movies at gmail.com for that mail bag tomorrow night 6 p.m it's going to be a lot of fun we're going to be reading letters, obviously plugging the Superman show, and more. We usually tend to tell some personal stories that humiliated each and every one of us. So, you know, that's great. It's going to be a lot of fun. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Now, because I went out of order here and I fucking got this stuff together, I am doing top of the box office. I know I forgot it at the top, but I want to do it. We'll do it really quick here because I fucking got these goddamn posters. Okay, dude, you got the pictures. Here we go. First one, on this day. Top of the box office, June the 16th, the year 2000.
Starting point is 00:23:19 We did a, we covered this movie on a live show on the East Coast where a drunken audience member was really concerned. Gone in 60s. There. Wow. Snake guy. Another snake guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 That guy was just like, talk about the part where there's a snake. We're doing the show and then like two feet next to us is a guy screaming at us as loud as he could. And we'd already talked about it. He did send a nice email apologizing about it. I want to be clear. He did. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:23:51 But, you know, it was very funny that that. It's all snakes under a bridge. I am going to. We were not on the West Coast. We were in D.C. for that show. I was. Yes. I was led astray.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Did I say, I was pretty sure. I thought he's at East Coast. I heard East Coast. I'm only getting every other word. I have COVID. Well, let's see if you get every other movie selection. Here we go. On this day, top of the box office, June the 16th,
Starting point is 00:24:16 2011. This is an amblin-esque film by a hot, hot, hot, hot filmmaker at the time. Oh, this is... Super 8? Boom. Look at this. I got to get COVID for the VHS trailer games.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It's true. If you keep this up, you might have some points for the next episode. On this day, June the 16th, 2024, so just last year, this animated sequel was a massive success. And my God, if they tried to bring it live What is Moana 2? Incorrect. Inside Out 2.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So close. And then... Those are three of those last year. Jesus. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah. Top of the box office this day, June 16th. 2007, a not-so-super sequel that we covered Chris Cabin on the West Coast,
Starting point is 00:25:07 as a matter of fact, had a live show in Portland, Oregon. Okay. Oh, fantastic, Four Rise of the Silver Surfer. There it is. Oh, boy. I'll tell you what. I re-watched that first. one over the weekend just for shits and giggles
Starting point is 00:25:18 man it is like firmly and like anger inducingly seated right in 2005 it's like the most dated feeling regardless of like the movie being good or bad which it is not good just the 2005ness
Starting point is 00:25:34 of it all like the mid aughts stink on that movie ooh allowing that Andre Brower death to happen oh in part two that's in part two in real life That also shouldn't have been allowed to happen, frankly. Also, but like that one I think of all the time. I do, I'm seeing a smattering of it, though, that 2005 won a little bit here and there
Starting point is 00:25:58 of people being like, you know, that one was pretty good. Incorrect as I was a baby when it came out. It's pretty good, actually. You know the best time of my life is when I had no responsibilities? That's true. That's true. Too bad we had way too many responsibilities when that first Fantastic Four movie came out. Otherwise, we could be sitting here 20 years later saying it's good, which it's not. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah, whatever. So there we go. That's some top of the box office. Wanted to get that out of there. So here we go. We're going to catch up on some stuff. Again, it's been a minute since we've been on the air. We got a lot to do before we do this big-ass trip to Oxford for the Oxford Comedy Festival.
Starting point is 00:26:35 We'll just plug that, of course, really quickly. This July, the 18th through the 20th, we're going to be in Oxford, England. Six shows, three nights. Two of those shows are already sold out. over to w hmpodcast.com to get all the ticketing information about that it is going to be a lot of fun but that is why if you've been like what are these fucking mooks doing they do a show then they take like three weeks off and now they're back and they're going to be off again it's because we got a lot to lay down baby to make sure we don't have any other work to do in england besides
Starting point is 00:27:02 the task at hand we got so much going on i'm doing this with covid sweats had to take my shirt off there for a second is that what that was oh that's interesting because i'm just sweating normally No, these are special COVID-Switz. It's really great. That's awesome. Turn the fan on here. Jesus. It has been hell.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I know it's not a real thing and it's fake and it's in my mind, but it has been kind of hellish going through it yet again. Oh, man. Well, it's one of those things where you feel good and then you do something. Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. And like, doing something, it's like, oh, I went out to the bathroom. Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Oh, that'll teach me to get up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Oh, exactly. Oh, all right. So first up, let's chat about it. We'll go in like, you know, released farthest away up to more recently. So let's talk about it. Tom Cruise, Mission Impossible, the final reckoning, of course, very divisive final installment here. I'll get out in front here and just say, you know, I enjoyed the movie.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I think I am just kind of like the laid-down simp for this franchise at this point. I really over the years have fallen in love with it. And to me, like, going into it, I was like, yeah, of course, it's the eighth one. It's not going to be mind-blowing. It's not going to be, you know, part six. which I still think is like this you know the series highest watermark and it's not but like I got to roll with my friends for three hours one last time and there was a bunch of stunts and I did not feel I know the biggest complaint is like that first hour feels you know not
Starting point is 00:28:26 necessary and all over the place and whatever and for me like I was just into it if you look at it is like that if seven and eight or one movie you're just kind of starting eight like in the middle of a movie where like you would have some downtime such as it is so I don't know It didn't bother me as much. I had a good time with it. I fucking cried at least twice. You know, not cried, but like, out emotional. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So anyway, that's my piece on the movie, tear it up. I love the franchise, too, but I just can't really get behind this one. There's so many of the flashbacks to this, that try to wrap up every single thing about the entire franchise. What a waste of space. You could have made this quicker. We could have moved along faster. By the way, little light spoilers, light spoilers. Shea Wigham, I don't need him to be John Voight Jr.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I will agree that's dumb. It's like, oh, no, handshake, because I'm good John Voight Jr. Do you think Chris McQuarrie and Tom Cruise were watching the movie at the premiere and they were like, oh, fuck, that part got left in about John Voigt? Because the rest of it, we deleted from the end of the movie. Oh, no. Because I will, I will confess that part, I was like, guys. Yeah, not needed. strong agree there i i i really didn't like it either i mean like i enjoy the last action set piece with the
Starting point is 00:29:44 plane yes honestly even great kill too great kill oh yeah uh to be quite honest i i was even let down by the subsequence i know everybody loves the sub sequence i love it what i kind of agree it was sloaf to me it was it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's wordless he's doing Rafi, the high scene from Rafifi under water, you guys. No way, that's great. What was Rafifi, 70 minutes? It's just one of those things, though, about it.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It's sort of like... Oh, no, it's two hours. They had to explain... Oh, damn it. They had to explain everything about it for an hour and a half. And they were explaining it in the last movie. Like, it was so built up, and it was so, like, the reason they were talking, the reasons of the thrilling part is like, oh, man, he might get
Starting point is 00:30:30 hypothermia and die if it gets to this level on that level and I was like I don't care about any of that shit like I just that's where I was at and I just honestly like this one my last piece is great cast everyone is sitting on their hands looking at Tom Cruise and I know that's sort of the stock and trade of this franchise but
Starting point is 00:30:48 other movies have done it much much better and other movies have used this cast much better including Palm Club and Teeth and Simon Pegg etc I think once we let him go and he's out doing the thing, it's good. But the problem is there is
Starting point is 00:31:04 90 minutes before that happens. And maybe close to 70, don't get into my argument here with this. It's around that area. And you can't every other one of these movies, including the last one, has at least that first hour grabs you.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And you're immediately into it and you don't have any, you're not doubting what's happening. The problem with making me doubt it for an hour and some minutes is that like, yeah, I have to warm myself a little bit. Thankfully, they have that great submarine sequence when they're down with Katie
Starting point is 00:31:36 from O'Brien Lies Bleating, Katie O'Brien, and the guy from Severance, who is great. He is really fucking good. Trimel Tillman, yeah, dude, Tremel Tielman. Look out for Trimel Tielman, dude, that guy is going to be one of our next biggest movie stars. He's amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:52 But I thought the submarine thing was great. I thought the showdown of Gabriel was great. And that's enough to make it like, okay in my book. But it's, again, to Eric's point, it's a two out, it's almost three hours, right? Yeah, it's like a full three hour of two 50 something. Yeah. And like that is, it's too much to be allowing for a full hour where I did, I felt like,
Starting point is 00:32:16 guys, just go. Stop trying to set the fucking table. Just go. That is the one thing you are allowed if this is like a two part thing. You can just hit the ground running. You don't have to explain your shit to me. as much as I like seeing all these actors, including
Starting point is 00:32:29 Shane William and Wittigan from Ted Lassow, Waddingham. Hannah Waddingham, doing a pretty decent American accent, which was very confusing for me. Yes. That's pretty good. Fine and good, except for, like,
Starting point is 00:32:46 I need you to just start running. And Tom Cruise is usually good at that. And this time he wasn't. So it did, it is my least favorite of this, for sure. Easily. I put it behind number two Number two is still my least favorite Really?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, he was a much better movie to me I kind of agree with that I know people love the wooness of two But man, Doug Ray Scott I'd rather have fucking Jim Phelps Jr. I mean if he If it like mattered at all That he was Jim Phelps Jr.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Then he should have been like the secret villain Of the movie. Sure. You know what it's just such a dumb dumb detail it's so fine I'm looking at the chat you know there's some questions like
Starting point is 00:33:28 how did he survive in the water that long news flash it's a movie like that's that kind of shit I'm like why are you bothering with the headspace it's a movie that's why did the hero get hypothermia and die halfway through the movie I don't know
Starting point is 00:33:43 halfway through the movie you're like it's like oh my god is he gonna make it is he gonna get out of this water he's getting out of the water I know exactly that's still be tense like that's a thing is it's not like that scene wasn't the tense, but, like, the one thing
Starting point is 00:33:55 I can say about these movies is I'm never like, well, how does that make any sense? Oh, yeah. You can't. How did Captain America do that? Well, it's, he's a super human. It's a movie. It's just a movie. It's not even a movie thing. It's this character specifically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Does not do this. Like, he always survives. The religious, the nigh religious insistence that he's going to make it through. And, like, I will gamble the entire, of the human race.
Starting point is 00:34:25 The stake is too high. I'm sorry, this is my other problem with it. It's gotten to science fiction with the entity. The stakes are far too high. You know, a nuke going off and so and so and two million people might die. The entirety of the human race. Also, I appreciate them attacking AI or whatever, but it's like, what is the end game of Gabriel even?
Starting point is 00:34:45 And then I control it. And then I guess, if so fact, do I run the world or whatever? I don't know. Is anyone, is anyone? to store the internet. But like there's, I mean, I'm sorry, but there are bond villain things with the exact same notion and no one's like, is he really thinking about the outcome of his plan? Of course not. Again, it's a movie. I don't have to sit with it for three a goddamn hours either though. That's the thing. Well, I think Blofeld had some good ideas and
Starting point is 00:35:10 they made more sense. But I also think part of the issue with this film is that it's stilted because it was stopped so many times during production because I think there was at least the writer's strike or something or the SAG strike took it out of commission. So then they're like cobbling it together at the back end. I think also COVID's had something to do with these backs. I think we were still dealing with that when we were shooting a certain scene. I know. The thing is with I am fine with the nuke being the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But then this does have to be the last Mission Impossible movie. That's why I firmly think it is because there's no like, I mean, Steve, you're right. There's nothing you can do that takes it above the stakes of this movie. like it's not a movie where he's going to like go to mars and fight some threat and that's why it's just it's the biggest they could get and like to then make another one where it's like yeah like you said steve like oh there's a nuke somewhere out west and it's like the audience isn't going to care anymore you know what i mean so i think like in a way it's like you kind of force the stoppage of this franchise by taking it that high and it's like what do we do but the ending to me does not signal that it is going to end i guess that's my my my Another issue I had is that the end does not feel like a finality at all to me. Tom is done. I think the movies will continue with someone else. I mean, that's entirely possible.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'd be there. I'd be there if that was the case. Another against Tom, I would just be interested in seeing. I like the more team ones, even, again, like Fallout, which we did. I just, I think that there's more like, oh, I'm going to run and do this. You'd do that. Like, I thought the shootout at the end that the other part of the people were doing was super boring and lame. And the bomb thing was okay.
Starting point is 00:36:51 but it wasn't great, you know, I just And that one character was like, why am I even here? I guess I'll just stay here and maybe die. Yeah, exactly. I like the dude from Maverick. Yeah, I actually, I, oh, him, yeah, no, but Ralph Saxon from the first movie, I did like him in his, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Oh, yeah, that's a door. Rolf Saxon as Knife Guy is like, it's honestly one of the highlights of the movie for me, like, and it's, it was great because it's not just like, you remember Knife Guy? Yeah, he's back. Like, the dude and his awesome
Starting point is 00:37:23 wife are like instrumental to the end of the movie it's way more than like a two second cameo I was expecting like it to be like oh yeah knife guy and then he gets like shot in the head immediately and the fact that he had like so much to do in the movie I was really pleased with like he definitely earned that character poster there's no doubt about it
Starting point is 00:37:39 yeah I don't know I mean if it goes the other way though you're talking about the finality of it whatever then he gets something like no time to die which like that's like one of the biggest wet fart like you tried finality in a very real way and boy that sucked even more
Starting point is 00:37:57 I fell asleep during that movie that is my of all the things that we have to get done before we go to Oxford I'm told myself because I need to we're going to talk about casino uh not casino rail uh quantum of solace correct I want to have seen the whole Craig thing and I still haven't seen that yet that is like the bottom of my fuck I have to do this it sucks so bad I have to watch this piece of shit I know that it sucks it sucks so bad and that's when it's like
Starting point is 00:38:21 Like, if you ever, like, you know, I immediately thought about it, specifically when I saw people like, oh, the end of this movie ends like all of those Mission Impossible movies with the crew looking at each other, nodding and going away. Yes, that's how a lot of those movies actually end. And immediately, I just was like, the other side of that is no time to die, which is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. And it's also two hours and 43 minutes. Like, fucking John Wick 4, too. Like, let's just cool it with the grand finale of your action. franchise. How about you make it fun and exciting like the other ones were? How about
Starting point is 00:38:55 that? I think you plotted. That'd be fun. John Wick 4, I think actually does feel final. I know it's not now, but when I watched it, it did actually feel like a final moment. Sure. And that I just didn't feel with, I didn't feel with James Bond and I didn't feel with this. John Mc4, you could cut it an hour
Starting point is 00:39:11 out of that movie and you'd just fine. I can't wait for it. I love that. Johnwick 5. Yeah, I think I'm a clone now. Oh, dude. Yes. The John Wick laboratory and it's just an army of clones of John Wick. Wait, hold on. You killed, it's me, Ben Wick.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You killed my twin brother, John Wick. Right, exactly. I'm thinking the twin is back now. By the way, Benwick, I'm actually kind of more of a cat guy. Oh, no, and now Benwick's cat's in trouble. Oh, no. Looks like your cat
Starting point is 00:39:42 didn't have nine lives after our Benwick. Etcetera. We got to get going here because we are almost at the top of the are Jesus Lord. See, even you're trying to talk about Mission Impossible, the conversation goes too long. It's way too long. So here we go. New one from Wes Anderson, the Phoenician scheme. Oh, can I say? I was scheming to see this this weekend, but then COVID had other ideas. Yeah, so this is out from
Starting point is 00:40:08 Focus Features. It's not doing as hot as Asteroid City did, but I don't care and I don't think Wes Anderson cares. I think this was like the movie of his eye. enjoyed the most while i should say liking asteroid city quite a bit this is the most i've liked a movie of his since grand budapest i was i was really into it i i i think this movie is really fucking fun it's probably his funniest movie minute for minute shot for shot there's just jokes all over the place it's it's goofy in a great way the cast is fantastic uh i i i'm with you ander i think that that this is one of my favorites of his in the last 10 years for sure yeah i mean i as you all know I love this guy.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Asteroid City, I think, is incredible. I think he's just been hitting home runs nonstop. The one thing I will say about this that I really liked about this is that it feels like he's taking a lot of lessons he learned in the sprawl of Asteroid City and Grand Budapest and the French dispatch, which are big, huge stories with insane amounts of characters. And he's bringing all the tightness that he found and all that and like the framings of that. He is putting towards a smaller story, one that, feels much more like the
Starting point is 00:41:22 pre-Dargealing era, like where we're talking, like life aquatic, Royal Tennen bombs, Rushmore. That kind of relationship feels like what's at the center of this one. And I really love him and his daughter, Yusufooro, and his one daughter. That, it's
Starting point is 00:41:38 just an incredibly funny movie. It's an incredibly moving movie. I think the acting is crazy. And of course, I mean, it's West Anderson. So it all looks nuts. It's just, I mean, frame for frame, it is probably one of his most beautiful movies just in terms of what he was able to just cram in there and just
Starting point is 00:41:54 like you know what I mean like he's got complete control over the box that he is working within you know oh yeah I mean those kinds of like precision movements and details and things like that that harkened back to like tenenbounds for me I think tenenbounds is one of his most like detail oriented movies
Starting point is 00:42:10 and I thought it was I thought it was great I think this is the best Benicio's been in a really long time I liked him in no sudden move and you know he's fine in the little bit that he's in French dispatch but like reptile dora and the lost city of gold people liked him in that escape of danamora the ben stiller show he's very good in that uh-huh but then you got like you know sacario two and whatnot so it's been a while since i've seen him like really rock in a movie that he's it's hit like he's yes in every scene more or less which kind of fun like you know he's been riding shotgun with west for a little while you
Starting point is 00:42:44 know he's in uh what is he's in grand budapest right or he's up with french french dispatch he's so good French Dispatch, but that's like a smaller role. Like, this is Benicio just gets to run with it. It's so fun. Yeah, no, it's great. I'm looking, yeah, I don't think he had worked with him before French dispatch. Yes. Does not look like it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah, no, I thought it was great. I was also like I like that it was still like a little nasty, a little sour, a little cynical. And that brought me back to like Life Aquatic. I think Life Aquatic is a very like sour, can be like nasty at times kind of vibes in that movie. So I was
Starting point is 00:43:20 all over it, yeah. I think that it also fights and I don't think intentionally either, but I think, you know, it's not like, I don't think Wes Anderson reads what people say about a shit, but I think it fights a lot of the, the stuff that comes up with the West Anderson stuff, the genteelness, which I never get, because this movies always have weird violence in them, emotional or otherwise. Like, if you watch them, they're actually pretty, pretty aggressive, but like, color me, no emotion. Color me no emotion. It's not, not good. Pastel me no emotion. Exactly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:49 understand so cold that and plus like there's a lot of talk about wealth of this movie that's actually kind of interesting as it goes on and like what the message of it minds of being which again people are always like oh it's just a bunch of rich people just sitting around drinking tea or whatever the fuck have you seen the movie
Starting point is 00:44:06 no no it's it's watch it no because what it what that is dude that's the same people that are like Martin Scorsese only make gangster movie exactly yeah it's the same thing so they're stupid on both counts we're gonna keep it going here to keep this train going. This one, a little more recent,
Starting point is 00:44:23 a little direct to Hulu action, and a little animated, that's right, Predator, Killer of Killers, which came out back on June 6th and was indeed also directed by Dan Tractenberg who did Prey and is doing this new one, but this is sort of like animatrix almost, like for the Predator World,
Starting point is 00:44:44 which I thought, like, I thought the story parts I was totally vibing with, I could not get on board with the animation and I thought because I'd seen someone else I shouldn't take credit for it. Someone else said and it was actually maybe Henry Gilbert of Talking Simpsons that it's like the Animatrix thing and
Starting point is 00:45:02 because of that I thought okay this first segment I'm not vibing with the animation thankfully there'll be other segments that will look differently like the Matrix like the Animatrix had different styles for all the shorts and it did not it's this like stutter step missing frame kind of animation that I've seen in other things
Starting point is 00:45:21 and I couldn't get into it but like I loved the violence I thought the three stories were cool except like the first two kind of feel a little bit of the same I guess but it doesn't matter I just my biggest bummer aside from the animation was like as this thing comes together around like the end of it when you're in the final part of the movie I was like why are you bothering to wrap it up like this not to spoil anything but I thought the way they wrap it up was incredibly dumb but you know contrasting thing I did like the animation I
Starting point is 00:45:46 I agree with the low, like that weird frame rate they were doing with it. I don't really like, but I thought the drawings were pretty sharp and they had some, you know, the drawings had some sharp knives and they fought each other and it was fun. I'm just happy to hear Eric Siska liking an anime movie. I always like everybody on its own. This is propaganda that anyone says differently. I, you know, I gave this three stars. I liked it more or less.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I don't, don't see the need to connect it all at the end because it's kind of like, okay, so how does that happen do they wait thousands of you whatever i'm not going to totally spoil it yeah one thing i did like about this is the attempted world building with within predator because i feel like predator it's always the same thing he comes down to earth he shoots a guy the end and a lot of the segments were just that again with the vikings and the samurai but i like the one in war war two and i don't really i don't know there's stuff about the story that's not obviously perfect at all but you're showing me predator area combat, and I don't think we've ever seen that
Starting point is 00:46:48 before. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think so. Maybe one of those AVPs, I don't remember it. I don't remember. I just like the attempt to world build and this, this Dan fella seems to have a good head on his shoulders with this franchise. I wonder if this is all leading up to Badlands.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Something is going to be feeding from this into Badlands. I was also with you that like the end, the cone heads ending. Dude. I was going to bring it up, someone else did it, but it is just the end of the Garthon. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah, and I would rather seen the Garthon. I just, I didn't like that. But also like a little bit, my problem with it is it did feel like, well, you like Predator. How about Predator with Game of Thrones? You like that? Yeah. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:32 How about Predator with the Samarite? You got like that? Okay. How about your predator with your top gun slash Air Force One? Because he says the line. How about that? I think does like it up. I still haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Honestly, what do you call it? Black's was it Predators or? No, the Predator. Predators was the Adrian Brody Nimrod Atal film. Yes. The Predator left such a bad taste in my mouth. I never watched prey. I wanted to. You got to watch. I know pray is great. I want to get to pray.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I love prey. I'm just sort of like, oh, more predators? Question mark. But I know that I'm wrong. I know that I'm wrong. Yes. You are, you are 100% wrong on that. You should watch that movie. It is fucking great. I think both the Shane Black and the Nimrod Atal movies, both of them, I fell asleep with in like half an hour and I've never seen the whole thing of either.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I never really felt like motivated to go back. I've seen them and you shouldn't bother. But, check out prey. Check out prey in the Comanchee cut. I like the Comanchee cut more than English. Last thing about it, I'll complain about the middle segment,
Starting point is 00:48:37 the like Feudal Japan samurai segment. I thought that's where the animation style suited it best. But, I didn't like that there's, like, one sentence of dialogue in it. And I don't know what, I was like, do you not want to have, like, Japanese voice actors do that? Like, I didn't understand, like, what the issue was, but it was driving me crazy, especially because on the other two sides,
Starting point is 00:49:03 the other segments are very talk heavy. Yeah. And this was just silent for no reason that I could really figure out. And then, like, a dude says, like, one thing to another dude at the end. And that was it. And I was like, ah, why couldn't, they'd be talking while they're fighting this guy. It made it harder to get into the action that way.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I guess they're quiet people, at least back then. That's what the movies tell them. I guess. I don't know. Yeah, so that was just some, you know, recent release stuff that had, you know, some hefty notices and ad campaigns and whatnot. But not all movies you guys can have those kinds of massive $40 million ad campaign runs. And when that happens, sometimes they fall through the cracks and we pick them up on a segment we like to call Secret Movie. All right. Now, Eric Siska, your solo on one here is something that we actually tried to catch it south by.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yes. But the schedule didn't work out. But I wanted to include it, even though you were the only one that saw it, because you had some high praise for it. So this is the surfer with Nick Cage. I really liked it. I was expecting, you know, a dirt movie, right? Like one of these pieces of course. crap, he churns the hell out.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Unflingers. I expected, like, you know, just fighting on the beach or something. But I was very pleasantly surprised. It's well-directed, well-shot. It looks like a real movie. It's refreshing to see Nick Cage in a real movie. And it does certain things that it's like, okay, good move. Like, he plays an Australian, but he doesn't have the accent. Yep. You just get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I grew up in California. And now I'm coming back to try to buy my grandfather's old house. and he gets hassled by the locals. You know, if you don't, don't live here, don't surf here. Oh, shit. But then it's like a lot of it's him in this parking lot, like trying to like get the deal on the house done on the phone, dealing with these local ruffians.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And then it starts to spiral. It's kind of a perfect role for Cage because then it's start, you start questioning reality. Like, wait, is he crazy? Is he that character? Is he what's happening here? I'm not going to spoil any more of it but as someone who had moved to a small
Starting point is 00:51:19 idyllic town where I didn't get along with the locals but wanted to be accepted and never was it really hit home for me I really had a good time watching this this was in the I was really in the the COVID had me wrapped up in a blanket while I was watching this
Starting point is 00:51:35 so take it for what you will so part of the love could have been a fever dream related but yeah but I if the dreams to be you know considered I did like it. Oh, with a hazard association. Your door is the wrong coloring dude. Exactly. Exactly. You can't pack a boatily do and you drive wily gee.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You guys are, wait, I thought only, I thought only I saw this movie. You guys are doing the quotes from it. Man, oh, my wife learned an amazing Australian slang term yesterday and I fucking forgot already. But ever since we watched that uh traumatizing documentary about that fucking uh uh ghost house fire or whatever the haunted house fire and they were calling bikers bikies oh yeah i've been obsessed with australian slang i love bikey uh yeah so that's that's awesome man i definitely wanted to check out the surf right did not have enough time this weekend uh but yeah i definitely will be uh and then the last i think all four of us watch
Starting point is 00:52:36 this one and this is definitely firmly rooted in secret movie territory only if because it stars Scott Atkins. It is his new one Diablo. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. This movie, Steve, we should let you take it away. This was your intro to the Adkinsaverse. It is. It's my first time with, I mean, I saw Adkins and John McFour and maybe he's been in other movies that I've seen in lower, lower levels. But this is my first like Scott Adkins joint. And I was sort of like, you know, okay, you know, it's kind of cool fighting. You know, the Milkkeek fist, uh, cinematography was like, a little bit much for me. I was kind of bored
Starting point is 00:53:14 until we get to that bar sequence and all hell breaks loose and I'm like, oh, this movie's excellent. This movie's awesome. I'm way into is it Marco Zororor, the other guy? Yeah. He is fantastic. You know, you know, in Mark Strong cosplay, which I love. Yes, but when he showed up on the screen, I was like, wait a second, is that Scott Atkins in a bald cap? Is he played two roles?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Dude, I thought the exact same thing. looking at the poster art even I was like wait a second by the way in from the internet Chelsea just texted me apparently a slang term for a mailman down there is a postie
Starting point is 00:53:54 oh man like the posties coming down the road oh my god beautiful language you guys got to him this movie's awesome but as Scott Adkins plays a dude I don't want to give too much away honestly and you shouldn't watch the trailer he kidnaps a teenage girl for righteous reasons i'll say uh and then has to like fight off
Starting point is 00:54:17 other dudes who are also trying to kidnap this teenage girl right what's funny too is he's kind of dressed like Travis bickle throughout yes yeah that's well a lot of it is him driving this girl in a car so it sort of works out of car driver it has i think steve you said it on on letterbox it has an outright luneitunes final action moment that is so awesome so sure The fights are great. The fights are great. Yes. I love the part where Scott Atkins is reluctantly fighting an entire football team.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yes, yes. Yeah, that gas station parking lot fight. Yep. And Markozoor, again, dresses Mark Strong with a really, any lighting hits this thing. That guy shaved his head yesterday. Yes. He cut this like metal arm that he can remove the fist and then there's a knife underneath. what you need. That's it. That's the movie. Beautiful. That's smart. That's smart because you get rid of the cane. You don't have to even bother with the cane. Why even have the cane if you just have the cane top as your arm and your hand? That's all easy as hell. Oh, wow. Tony King in from the UK says they call them posties over there too. Maybe you'll see a postie in a couple weeks. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I'm going to see a posty. We're going to start speaking the kings over there. Don't worry about it. Zerore also in John Wickford, but also look for a movie called Fist's a movie. the Condor that he stars in. Crazy. It's also directed by this guy whose name Ernesto Diaz Espinosa. Yeah, he also directed that movie. He's done a couple things with Marco Zura. Marco Zura is a Chilean actor.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, just that dude's awesome, man. Honestly, like it's like if Jaws the Bond villain was just running around like a shitty DTV movie. You know what I mean? That's kind of what it felt like, but like good. I know that made it sound like I was like talking shit about
Starting point is 00:56:10 But, like, I watched all 91 minutes of this last night just gleefully. It's charming. It's so, it's just a fun movie. And, like, it doesn't, there's no fat to it. It moves. And I do, in the last, like, 30 minutes, I am so happy that everybody learned the right lessons from ambulance and was like, we're just using drone cameras for these fucking action movies. And we're going to get nice, big shots. Yeah, they get some real good ones.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I mean, again, this is kind of, you know, listen, a lot of these movies are garbage. but like when you get one that's well made and also like it's good with the resources that it has what that equates to a lot of the time is like just finding random on location spots to film things and this is one of those they were like we found this thing and it's got a big fucking conveyor belt on it how can we write the end of the movie around it
Starting point is 00:56:57 and they did and then you put drones around a real thing with real people climbing and like it just looks great it looks like a movie that they would have made in like 1996 dude them running up that thing towards the conveyor belt. I was getting exhausted. I was just like, Jesus Christ. Hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:13 That thing is a Christ almighty. Yes, it's super fun. It's very silly, but in all the right ways. It's movies for guys that like movies. The old Spike TV, whatever. It's a Dad for Noon classic. Absolutely. Total Dad for a Noon movie, yes.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But that is going to do it. That is all we have to gab about this week. But our gabbing is not done, of course. As we mentioned, tomorrow night, 6 p.m. Live right back here on YouTube or Twitch, depending upon where you're watching it. We are doing a live mailbag. It has been a long time since we've opened up the WHM mailbag.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So get them letters in. We All Hate Movies at gmail.com. That's tomorrow night, 6 p.m. That's going on. Of course, do not forget Friday night live this Friday the 20th, 9 p.m. Superman 2 live show and Q&A after party. That's going to be a lot of fun as well. Them tickets are on our website.
Starting point is 00:58:06 or you can just go right to moment.co slash we hate movies for those guys. And then podcast-wise, it is still totally cool, awesome 80s month here on the summer blockbuster extravaganza for We Hate Movies. And tomorrow, oh boy, gird your loins, folks, the second highest grossing movie of 1986, Crackerel Dundee. Speaking of Australian slang, we're talking all about it. We're talking about that. We're talking about how leathery he looks.
Starting point is 00:58:32 We're talking about how he's dressed like an old west jigolo. we're talking about the fucking two dead thud transphobia moments in the movie all that and more. Oh, and Reginald Val Johnson. Of course. So, there you go. That'll be on the free feed, but also on the Patreon with
Starting point is 00:58:49 zero commercials ad free. That's right. Head over to patreon.com to sign up and get that episode commercial free as well as, we're not done yet, y'all. This Thursday lock and load once in a lifetime is back with like, you could put
Starting point is 00:59:05 killer contractor like the poster art of it in miriam websters next to the definition of lifetime movie it is like everything you want from a lifetime movie and more yes absolutely go watch this movie it's on youtube uh yes and it's it's it was a great it was a great movie but it was also a great movie to talk about it was a lot of fun yeah yeah and i uh still still regret the fact that uh well you know i didn't know it was on youtube so now i own it on amazon $4 later. You can't. I can revisit it whenever I'd like, which will be possibly never. All right, y'all, that is going to do it for this week.
Starting point is 00:59:44 No show next Monday. We will be back the following Monday, which is June the 30th, for what will be the summer finale of on-screen live. Until then, I've been Andrew Jupin. Eric Siski. Have a good week, y'all. We'll see you down the road. Bye-bye. I don't know.
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