We Hate Movies - S15: On-Screen Live's Special Coverage of the 2024 New York Film Festival Part 1 (with Megalopolis Review!)

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

On the first episode of our two-part special coverage of the 62nd New York Film Festival, we're reviewing several fantastic selections from this year's lineup, including: Miguel Gomes' Grand Tour, Hong Sangsoo's A Traveler's Needs, and RaMell Ross's Nickel Boys. Additionally, even though Chris covered it out of TIFF, Andrew and Eric weigh in on Sean Baker's Anora, and Andrew reports on the new restoration of Clive Barker's Hellraiser! Plus, currently in release and fresh off its official NYFF special IMAX screening, Eric and Chris give their takes on Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis—Steve and Andrew will weigh in on the most talked about film of the year when On-Screen Live returns to its regularly scheduled programming later in October. Be sure to catch our second segment of NYFF62 coverage, airing next Monday, October 7, at noon/eastern, on YouTube! Be sure to head to our website for all ticketing information on our final shows of the year in Seattle, Portland (Oregon) & Boston! And don’t miss our worldwide digital event on October 23 where we’re talking Scream 4! Can’t make it the night of? The show has a 14-day replay window after the broadcast! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Bus Movie, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs!  Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

Please. And so much. Well, well, what's going to be? on, everybody, welcome on-on, welcome on-on, welcome on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-on-combeck-on-all-on-on-combeau-on-combeau-on-combe-on-up-on-combe-up. We're going to bring him in. We're going to review some flicks out of the festival. We're going to plug some stuff. Then we're going to review some more films out of the festival. Then we're going to plug more stuff, as we have been known to do around here. So let's bring him in. First up, you know him. You love him. You love that fucking sick mustache. Mr. Eric Siska.

Oh, it was sick. It was sick. It was sick for Tif. It's a healthy stash. That's good. Because you made a by the puzzle box. That's right. In exchange for better health, you'd be covering the New York. Thank you. That's exactly why you might be able to see my nipple clamps through this shirt. So I made a deal with the centibites. You see my little tit-tuckers through my t-shirt. We've been seeing some good stuff, man. Yeah. It was a bummer to miss you. at Tiff. Of course, uh, um, um, um, too, um, too tiff. Um, um, I did have a Tiff, but he didn't have any literature with him, but I can see in the green room. He's got his nose buried in something. It's Mr. Chris Cabin.

Wait, you have tituckers now? Oh, yeah, dude. I got like a chain between them, you know? Oh. Do you have any CDs in you as well? Have any of them come flying off the wall, you know, no, the old copy of Duky just hits you right up the Duker. Oh, yeah. I got Duky in my back pocket. I'm to the live shows this November. Tugged my tits. We should put that, we should do a new bumpers now because this is really going to bring them in. If they get to play with his tits, that's going to be hastefully.

A tasteful. You know our audience. A caressor. Oh, come on now. Well, you got to warm me up, Chris. I can't just go right into it. Okay. We'll make that as special pricing.

You can be wind and dined. Well, now that this has been demonetized on YouTube, Yeah, yeah, now that the money-making opportunity is out of the way. I, man, you guys were just going. I had something that I was going to lend to all of this, something that happened to me. It related or? It wasn't tit-related.

It was something about the show and now I can't, I don't know. Well, maybe it'll, maybe it was something maybe about the live shows, nah, I don't know, I don't know, I could tell a bathroom story, go right in, this is, this is film festival coverage, we're going to go through everything that happens there. Okay, you know, first big marathon day I was there at the Walter Reed Film Center, whatever it's called.

Walter Reed Theater for film and movie theater, yes. And man, this guy was just, so I went, I went to do a stall. We should say. The Walter Reed Theater, some of the worst theater, some of the, Lincoln Center, some of the worst thing in Lincoln Center. All functioning assholes, too, I'll get to it. All the money went to the Alice Tully renovations. Those bathrooms are miraculous. Those are beautiful, beautiful facilities.

But yeah, they have the same. I've been going to this fucking thing since, like, the early aughts. Those bathrooms have not changed. They haven't done anything. They haven't done anything. It has been that way forever. But we are happy to be invited. We'll live like cattle for you because it's a great festival. So this guy comes in. I'm in the stall. And he starts taking a leak at the urinal like you would. But then I hear this, this humongous like fart wave. This. It sounded like someone stepped on a whoopee cushion. And it was like, I was like, That sounds a little wet. And the guy goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I, I, and then I'm like, he woohooed after he shit his pants at the urinal. It sounded like, maybe it was involuntary. Like, it was like, oh, sure. And then I'm like, you got to check that out.

You got to come back here, sir, and check that out. And he didn't. He just left and he went back into the theater and you wonder why it smells in there. No, that's, you got to, you got to go in the stall. You need full inspection. You know, like, and odds are nothing. happened. Look, look, but in the off chance, sir, sir, so that you got to do something about it. You can't be going, for another two hour movie. It is unfair to say that the theater, the Walter Reed, smells like shit because it's really a potpourri. It is there, there's B.O. B.O is actually the one that takes over everything. That and foot smell really do lead the charge, but then you've got the piss and shit kind of mingling in there in the back part. got guys walking in with a soup over my soup. We got to think. We've got to think. Like, like, like, like, you know, you know,

they do an amazing job. Yeah. They're not miracle workers. They can only do so much. And obviously, they're not going to be searching every container. Like, that's just not practical. You as the theater goer and we're all adults, you have to think, man, should I open a hot fucking quart of soup? in a packed movie theater. 10 out of 10 out of 10 times. Yes. Someone, just spray just spray in the air a little bit. Then you're just going to get people who hate the smell of

Lysaw. You can't win here, Eric. No, but look, like, I know. There is no winning. We all, oh, it's a losing game. Oh, yeah. We all want to see every movie, right? But you have to allow yourself time to get out, stretch your legs, go get a bite to eat in a regular eating area and then go back to the movies. So you're not

I'm sorry, a hot a bit of bisk. You might as well put down hay on the, go to the bathroom wherever you want. I mean, honestly, I would be more for that at this point. But I mean, as to your point, Eric, these are usually a great deal of the audience for the P&Is. Are uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and I, uh,

and they, like someone took their seat, even though they had their thing on it. So now they will never forget that. So now they will, every time they will bring like, their plantains with hot sauce plus like, uh, chicken noodle, uh, Italian wedding soup, the five quarter, they will be doing that all day and you will smell it for the entire movie. It's just not fair. It's just not fair, oh my God. Anyway, so that's part of the background horrors of what we've been going through, which we're very grateful for, of course. I will say so far, so far with this festival, you guys, no old people fights yet. Last year there was definitely, I witnessed a fucking epic old person fight in one of the theaters. I think the behavior for the most part has been much, much more improved. Yeah, I would agree. The biggest, the biggest screening. I went to, I didn't see was nickel boys, I didn't see

a single roughhawks, not a one. I was shocked. No, just over seats, nothing. It was actually quite good. No, and when you get those P&Is too for like the opening night film, like people can be absolute maniacs sometimes. So I'm glad that all worked out. Nickel boys, one of the films we will get to in the lineup today. But first up,

I want to talk about one that we caught on our first day. Eric and I did anyway. It's the new one from Miguel Gomez. of course. It's called grand tour. I actually did not catch it. You did not catch it? I was trying to get at a separate screener. I couldn't make it that day. I think it's just you, but I'm very interested in this movie. I would love to hear more. Oh, yeah. No. So that's all right. Well, this discussion will be a little shorter than I thought it was going to be. Miguel Gomez, you know, I hadn't seen the movie of his in a while because I missed Arabian Nights, but I really like taboo, which played in the festival like 12 years ago or something. time ago, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, and he just makes these, like, um, dream scape, kind of movies. Dreamscape, dream like kind of feeling movies where like, you know, you're watching a movie.

Like, if that makes sense, you can feel the movieness of it all. You can feel the movie making, the excitement for movies. And so this, this one is about, uh, it's like a journey through East Asia in the early 20th century. And it's kind of funny because the, the premise is pretty simple. It's a man and a woman who are engaged to be married, or they're at least they're visiting from, and it's like like that. This dude kind of has like, it's the most epic tale of cold feet for an engagement ever. He kind of just like takes off in the middle of Southeast Asia and leaves this woman to go on his own journey of chugging singapore slings and walking through various forests and going you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're going, you know, town to town, like, well, he's just a little ahead of me. Like, he's clearly not trying to abandon me. He still loves me and wants to get married. How does she follow him? Does she like smell the colonization in the air? I think he's that way. That was that was taboo. actually. I don't know if it's the same. That was essentially. The central tenet of taboo actually. Yeah. It's just, it kind of just like shows up and there's like, you know, there's some letters given here and there. But it's pretty cool because a lot of, most of that action in the early 20th century is black and white. And he kind of just plays with time in this cool way. Time is sort of irrelevant to the story. He cuts to all these like really awesome color shots of the same areas just further along.

long in time, sometimes seemingly right up to the present time. It just is like this hypnotic, in a really cool way. It's, uh, uh, you know, it's, it's over two hours, fellas, I'll tell you right now. I didn't feel a minute of it. Nice. I was totally just like entranced by this movie. Uh, and I was so happy right at the start my fucking fave film company going right now. I think you guys, uh, Mooby. It's another one. in their hands. I don't know the deal with this release. I don't know if it's maybe it's, but it is just, I think, like the copy on Lincoln Center's website uses the word fanciful. And I think that is, it is a fanciful trip through a movie. So I really cannot recommend it enough. And yeah, no, that's so funny. Eric, I thought, God, I had this. This is what happens, folks. All of the screen. kind of just meld into like, like, and I was like, Eric was like that way, I think by the way, Sean Winer, who's been attending, uh, on behalf of his organization, UFO entitled film maker organization, uh, I think he was actually sitting next to me. And I remember we got lunch afterwards and he also really liked it. So there's two recommendations from the WHM universe, so to speak. It sounds good. It sounds great. I really wanted to see it. I, uh, there was some train delays stuff that happened. that that kind of prohibited that, but I reached out to the press context. It turns out, I don't carry much weight.

Well, I'm sure they're being like insanely inundated. Oh, yeah. Sure. Request like that. Yeah. This will be, you'll get stuff for the, like when four year consideration stuff starts going out, this will absolutely be on some list. I guarantee you that. I mean, I don't know, like you, I don't know if it was this, uh, if it's 20, 24 or 2025 release. I kind of feel like it is. is like a late 24 release and it's going to be at the uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, but, uh, uh, uh, I think it's one. I think it might, yeah, yeah, I think it might be one of their releases. Um, uh, what I, but Miguel Gomez has been at this fucking festival forever, like, not like two or three years ago. I think, I forget if Andrew, you saw it. He co-directed a movie called the, the Tsugua

diaries. It's August backwards. Oh, yes. Yeah, yes. That movie. Great movie. Primo stuff. He's been around. Whenever he's been I mean, he's been doing stuff since before taboo. That's really great. Since taboo, he's kind of been on everybody's radar and like it's been great so far. Taboo, yeah, that's a great place to start with his stuff. T-A-B-U. So you spell the title. Right. Not to be confused with that Tom Hardy TV show that existed briefly. Do you remember that? A hat, he worked at the hat, it's the hat, like, like, like he was it's a circus hot, sounds like, sounds like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was how I started the festival with Grand Tour and, man, just what a great celebration of filmmaking and just a fun story, you know, he does some really interesting stuff. There's a train derailment that happens and it's cool how he handles that. uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know,

like, like downing Singapore slings. And I was like, it's like a little too, like thin and see through for Singapore slings. So I'm curious what they were actually drinking. Maybe it was some, uh, older Singapore sling recipe or something like that. But, uh, anyway, big recommend right out the gate for Miguel Gomez's new one. Uh, up next, uh, a dude that we covered one of his films out of tiff with, but of course, my dude puts out two to three a year. Of course, we're talking to need. It's another new one from Hong Sang Su. Uh, and this one has the benefit of starring Isabelle who pair, which was a very nice surprise. Now, Eric, you did. I saw it. Okay, you saw it. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, all of his movies are a little slower. You have to get into

sort of that groove i didn't like this one as much as like the novelist's called yes so chris why don't why don't you speak on that what did you really like about this move i mean i i've liked all of uh i think this is the at least the second perhaps the third pairing with uh sangsu and huper uh in another country is the one i remember i feel like there's another one but i might be wrong on that um let me see if i can find it's at least definitely the second. And I just like their relationship. You go to a movie. You go to the lead. It's usually her movie. Nobody uses her well. She's kind of the reason you go see a movie with her in it unless it's from a big director. And even a lot of big directors, I still don't think do that well with her. I think she kind of overpowers them in a lot of way. He's one who like makes her. like match his style, match his way of doing things. She does it in a very precise, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, he gives, uh, he's, uh, his normal work. Uh, it's not to say better in any way,

but they are, they, they bring out a different kind of taste to him. Whereas like this compared to by the stream, which is his usual, uh, normal actors are in that. There's no, uh, big name, uh, his partner, uh, Kim and he is the lead. But other than that, there's nobody really known. This one. This is the shorter one. This is the shorter one's like 73 minutes. It was a flat 90. She's, she plays a French teacher who goes around teaching some people French. She has this relationship with a younger man. And that's the movie. It's actually, I mean, it's interesting though, because I, and I, this one really struck me. And I think because this was the first time I saw him collaborate with an actor I was, by the way, by the way, by the third time,

Hong San Suh, um, um, um, um, I don't know. It's just the, the, the, I looked up the, uh, the copy for travelers needs as reunites for their third. Delightful outing. And I think it is a delightful outing. And I think, and maybe this was like story I was building up in my head. And indeed, maybe that's kind of his intention just because there's so little here. But I love the, mystery about isabeloupera's character and what like what brought her like what is it right there's so little information given and in fact you know eric you're right that she's teaching french that seems to be how she is presenting herself to people like oh yeah i can teach you french and the way she's doing it uh is through like writing down, you know, you know, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, like, you know, and she says, okay, like, I'll write this in French and that's how you say it, uh, you know, and I guess sort of this alternate way of learning a language, trying to make it more usefully conversational or whatever, but it's important to note that, like, she says in the movie, she's never taught before. She has no actual teaching skills. She's kind of winging it, which is right. So I guess she's just a bandit or something, just roaming the land, like, getting one over on these people. She's mostly just

gets drunk off this milk alcohol which yes. I mean, I mean, is the speciality people getting drunk in like very intimate ways and that bringing out

different sides of their character and very pointed ways usually things that are being repressed due to things that are happening elsewhere in the movie. And it is slow by the way. It's a slow movie. I don't think a lot of people,

a lot of film people love it. I don't think a lot of general audiences necessarily would, but even at the film festival, if you get a little bored, just look around the and count everyone who's asleep. I think I had seven. You'll get a couple snorers too. You'll get a couple that really just blare in your ear a couple times. Everyone who you can clock it, right? It's like you slept through 80% of that movie and then you'll see them go and turn around and release like a review for it, which I always find very funny. I was, I was, I mean, I was, I was, I was, I don't know if it was, like, like, like, I'd been a Hong Sang Su movie, because I did not catch any of his output last year, and I missed, uh,

the films of Tiff. So this was my first, and probably like a couple, couple years. And I found it like, very, you know, sort of like welcoming me back into a very familiar place. I was joking about it with some people online who were, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and I am and I am get a little testy about it, but I think that is, like, he's reliable in the sense that 95% of his movies are exactly the same. They're sort of, uh, you know, I mean, they're constructed the same way. They're not about the same things. And, you know, he's not like remaking his own work, but it's like a lot of long takes. You probably have, like, 15 shots in a movie, right? You know, It's a very certain style

I think Eric, you're totally right. It's the, it's the, it's the, it's the why a lot of people don't know him. He hasn't had that crossover sensation that other Korean directors have experienced. So he is not a unknown name. It's very much a specialized taste and indeed that's why Cinema Guild once again. I mean, I think they've distributed almost every single one of his movies that has come stateside. Cinema Guild has taken up that challenge. He's been at the festival, since the mid, like, I remember, I remember, my first one of

was, 2006, great movie. Great movie. And he's always just been like, the people who really love movies, love this guy. He's, he, what's interesting is if, if you do stay with him, they're all, there are all these really major differences between all the different movies. He is really trying to things. They're the way Soderberg tried, they're the two that I really experimental people in this field still, uh, uh, uh, who put out narrative films yearly, usually. Um, that he's trying different things. But yes, it is incredibly slow. Nothing big happens. Everything is very becalmed. Uh, I don't think he's made like a thrilling movie in his life. Um, it's, even the ones that I love, even the ones I love are not that. They are, It's just not his tone. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, he knows what conversations to focus on to build a little story, a lot of inner life through goings-ons and very, uh, everyday goings on, like, uh, looking for a theater festival or trying to get, uh, taught, how to speak French. and stuff like that these are very everyday things that nobody really can focus on but he has the time and clearly the budget to do so yeah you know you don't require much of a budget which is great um i will say this his first feature uh the day a pig fell into

the well in 1996 and since then he has accumulated uh now 39 director credits that's crazy it's like that's like a Rainer Werner- outpenter output without and if I guess exactly yeah without all the hard drugs definitely probably that's about it yes this they were specifically

drinking a rice wine called like maxiola or something M-A-K something yeah it's sort of like a pseudo it can generally be kind of like a pseudo sweet usually very cloudy kind of rice wine but

tasty stuff, man. That's another thing. You will get pretty thirsty, but anyway, so a full-throated recommend in a way that you can give a big recommend to a movie like this. It's a big recommend from two of us and didn't work for Eric. Something that worked for all three of us. We covered it. Chris only at Tiff, so I did want to cover it here as well because Eric and I totally also had our socks knocked off here. But the new one from Sean Baker, a Nora. which is out limited 1018 from neon. This is a hell of a picture. my favorite Sean Baker movie now. And I really, really loved Florida project. But hell yeah, this movie, this is Mikey Madison, who you may know from Scream 5 and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. This is her, I mean, even though Scream 5 was a huge movie,

once by a time in Hollywood was a star making time. This is her, big time. It's incredible. It's about a, an exotic dancer that ends up sort of like getting eloping with this son of a Russian oligarch. And it's kind of like a one crazy night or one crazy two days. It's just, it is a fantastic movie. It's a, what was I sort of saying? It's kind of like pretty woman, if it was made by the Saffty brothers uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, in, uh, uh, in, in its own way. I mean, I mean, it is such a, uh, new York movie and such a like deep Brooklyn, uh, Russian Brooklyn, New York movie, uh, Coney Island kind of that area. Um, and man, just like the authenticity. And that's what I love about Sean Baker movies in general. Like,

wherever they're set, whether it's like, Tangerine, Florida for Florida, like these communities, are so darn legit feeling. it has that almost like docudrama, I dare say, like kind of vibe sometimes like, you know, you're going through these clubs out in Brighton Beach and whatever. And like, yep, those are real people there.

Odds are there's a lot of like, non-actors filling this frame in a really, in a really, but yeah, like, I mean, it's a, it's a hefty ass movie at two, almost 220. Kind of felt it a little bit, in my opinion. But like, it is just, yeah, like Eric, you said, the kinetic energy of this movie catapulting you

through this adventure. Just going to really amazing. Going through those nightclubs, strip clubs, it's like Russian gangsters. it's very funny. It's very funny. No, no, no, it's, it's, I mean, um, um, um, um, um, like Florida project probably has the fewest lapse of movies of his that I've seen, but like, this is just so damn funny, like top to bottom. But then at the same time, it manages to like turn on a dime and smack you in the face with some real hardcore drama. Like, and I think, you know,

sex. Oh, and sex. No, it's a very, it's a very, very, very sexy movie, very sexy. Yeah, very sexy. uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, in that environment also. Um, but yeah, just like, this trip that you take, you know, Mikey Madison just carries this whole thing.

I mean, not to knock the supporting characters either because like, every single person in this movie turns in like a, a really memorable supporting role, whether it's like this oligart kid, the, uh, are they Albanian gangsters Georgian, Armenian, the handler, the main handler, like the the guy, the guy who has to deal with this is, he's been in a few of Baker's movies and he really like makes a stamp on this one. He is so fucking funny in this movie. Karen Karagulian, I'm mispronouncing it, plays Toros. Very, very, They're incredible.

It's incredible. They actually had a really great photo from the premiere was Mikey Madison in between Toros and the bearded guy. Yeah, yes. The character, I think.

Yes, and they had a good, like, she's in between, and everybody's looking pissed off in the photo, and then like the very next photo, it's like, and that's acting, we all love each other like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, too, toros, like, I have seen that guy making business calls outside of diners. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, just carrying that realism with him, like, just Bravo, whoever he had doing casting with him for this movie, uh, because hot, he diggity damn. He is always, I mean, Baker at with the casting has always been a slam dunk. I read the guy's just good at this shit. I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm like, like, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be, like, how, how, how he unfurls because, like, this is a great, this is the greatest, like, Russian, New York movies since two lovers, like, it, ooh, which is another fantastic movie, uh, but, like, uh, it has that flavor of it. It has that very particular, uh, uh, custom.

like a, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, uh, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, uh, has attention to those things that is blasted apart by modernism, which is the relationship between Mikey Madison and the young Russian boy, who is, he's also, I, I forget his name as well, but he is fucking hilarious as well. Oh, the kid, yeah, he's played by a guy named, uh, Mark Edelstein. He's, he's, he's been around for, or, no, uh, yes, Ivan, yeah, Mark Elstein plays him, yeah. Um, want to just make a note, uh, in the comments.

here. By the way, didn't not mentioned that at the front, but it's great to see tuning in as we're at the regularly scheduled time for OSL. But the authorized podcast, Johnny Pomato, who's been checking out stuff for the festival, says, Mikey Madison, that's standing, but he feels Karen Karuglian, who plays Toro, steals the show, who's sitting in front of Johnny at the public screening. He was at his wife kissed him every time he got a big laugh, which I think is fucking fantastic. What a sweet little story. I wish I had that. of the bathroom guy.

yeah johnny pomato man you had a dude shitness pants in a that's uh that's not very fair at least it wasn't me this time that's true uh but yeah y'all 1018 limited from neon i really hope for an expansion here i really hope this movie hits with the limited release and can expand

because also i mean it's so goddamn gorgeous and thinking again on like the kinetic feeling of it just watching it just mandatory viewing experience. now take a quick break here to like I promise we're going to plug some stuff we do have folks our end of year shows coming up here

and first up pretty crazy this is like tomorrow's October 1st it's going to be here before you know it but 1023 our final worldwide digital experience of the year we're talking scream 4 on the internet, you can even even for this. I remember, I was kind of pleasantly

it, so don't expect pure negativity, just a good little layer of it. No, we are, we are, look, this is a screamhead household, folks. You know, we all like, I would wager a good chunk of the franchise. So, you know, it's, yeah, it's not going to be a hate fes. It's going to be more an all-encompassing, probably conversation, in one way or another. But yeah, I remember

like this one pretty okay, too. I did see it in theaters. The ending, incredibly gooftacular moment, which I laugh at every time. We'll talk about that at length. But yes, 1023, 9 p.m. Eastern, we will be doing the Q&A after party as well. Patreon supporters at the $8 and $10 level get to bundle that in for free. That's pretty cool. And, and, you know, we do. And you know, we do. It's like, you see us do this whole episode live. And then afterwards we hang out for about an hour. B.S. in, you know, showing off our cool pipes. Many, many cool pipes, cool t-shirts, our drink that we've made. Also, we answer your questions. If you have any questions. Most importantly, yes. And we also discuss all the props used in the production. So get ready for that. but yeah, but yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know,

you can get the replay, all that good stuff. Uh, and then starting in November, we have our three final in the flesh dates. I just want to show off the full poster first. Uh, our, our, our, our, our artist, man, Felipe subroro. Another fucking banger. Love this. It's love this fucking thing. We will have this, of course, for sale, uh, in the merch store. But yeah, just to break out, 1115, first up, it's a Friday night. We are making our gosh, darn debut in Seattle, and we're talking about Harry and the Henderson's at Washington Hall. This is something I've not seen in a while.

I remember it being incredibly stupid yet, man, I'm tearing up right now thinking about it when he's kicking that fucking Sasquatch out of his house, man. It is heartbreaking. Oh, I love it. I love it. And I think he's at one point wearing a Seattle Seahawks sweatshirt. so that's exciting for all of our local Seattle people. don't let us get bumped by a true,

because you guys love that stuff more than anything up in Seattle. Well, dude, it's the Pacific Northwest, man. They got a lot of fucking cereal. It's a Laura Palmer a day up there. They do. They do. Support comedy for a change instead of a grisly murder, okay? Speaking of grisly murder, we're heading down to Portland two nights later

to talk about what may be, you know, you know, you know, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a lot of people are, uh, uh, the ground zero, for cinematic disgusting shit boys. We're going to give a combo all about the goonies. Look at that. A face of mother even couldn't love. No, yeah. I think, I think chunk was orphaned after the events of the film. Yeah.

Might have been. No, uh, this is a movie that we understand, uh, it has a very large, uh, passionate following. And, uh, you know, it's one of those things where none of us really grew up on it, oddly. I don't know how I saw it. I grew up. I grew up. I grew up. But that's what I mean. Did it fall into it? Yeah, exactly. Sure. Yes. Exactly. It's a sacred cow, but we're going to make hamburger. So come on out and watch that. No, I mean, that's the thing. It's okay to like a movie. That's what we always say on this show. And it's totally fun. If you like it, we're just going to have, we're to make a little jokes about the disgusting shit boys tummy. the truffle shuffle, pirate treasure. There's going to be there's going to be. I'm very

by the way to be going back to Mississippi great club in Portland that we played several years ago and there is a shot folks that if this sells out quick enough that let us add a late show in which case we have a very interesting idea, something we have not done on the road yet. Something we have never done before perhaps would be, but Portland, I guess, I guess, I guess, all right. By the way, feel these. If I see you at Seattle and I see you at Portland, you get to tug those clamps twice.

Look, I think we really should have the tier correct before we start selling the tugger level. I think we need to have the discussion before we sell things for it, you know? It's VIP, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and greed and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, and, uh, , uh, if I like you. That's the next level. Okay. Okay. I got to approve. There's going to be a velvet rope for the TV's. Uh, VIP, uh, meat and tweak. Yeah. It's going to be like a Nora in there. So come on out. Oh, oh my God. Uh, and then several weeks after that, uh, we returned to the East

coast. We're going back up to Boston. We will be, uh, back in last Boston great club, uh, that we've played several times. Talking pretty woman, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, uh, uh, uh, you know, I, I like, I like it. I like it. I think Julia Roberts is, this is probably one of her best roles. She's, she's great in it. Energetic and she's fun. Yeah. Movie sucks terribly. But yeah, she's, she's fantastic in it. And also, we can. No, it's not a secret cow. It's a sacred chicken, if anything. It's sacred chicken, though, though, though, we will be singing, though, we'll be singing the entire of king of wishful thinking, of course, from pretty woman at this show. He will be doing that, and we will be

leaving the stage for that performance, for him to do a special spotlight. Oh, yeah, yeah, just solo on stage, singing that tune. And of course, that movie has pushy, handsy, evil Jason Alexander, so there's a lot to talk about. Evil Costanza. I don't like it. Where was he more evil? He, or as the, as the, the, the, the, the, is the, is the, is the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, or, uh, and, and pretty woman, uh, actually, I just rewatch blank man, because I go through the classics, you know? And, um, he's, he's good in that movie as the, the shitty boss. He's, it's like J. Jonah Jameson, he's doing, which is fun. It's like J.

It's like J. Jonah Jameson meets, uh, Lieutenant Dan from Forrest Gump. That's right. Uh, and this, I think also a pretty woman was around the song and dance Alexander song and dance um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I think so. It was probably right after that or right around that.

So that's like the prime. That's like Alexander prime like full head of hair still. He's rocking and rolling in that movie. It's gonna be a good time. If you haven't seen that Mick DLT commercial, look it up. It's worth your time.

That might have to work its way into the intro video. Oh, I would love that. Yeah. We'd be just play some commercials. for the folks before we get started. exactly. I would get it's all ticketing information. HM podcast for the tour page. tickets for sale we hope to see you out there.

Now, continuing on, we have three more things to talk about here. One, I'm just going to do really quickly here, but something from the Restoration's part of the festival, which is something I love about any film festival that does a restoration section I think it's brilliant. I'm always has a and this year fellas,

it was just going right after my own there was a restoration of Razor playing at the New York film festival. Oh God, that's what it looks like under my shirt. I was going to say that's what it looks like when people are bringing fucking soup into the theater. Yeah, no, this is the

1980s Clive Barker classic. I did stick around last Monday for a screen of the new restoration is awesome, it's awesome. It's fucking great. I think any Hellraiser movie on a big screen. It was really awesome

to watch this with a crowd. Yeah, no, man. I never, I mean, so many of them fucking just started going to video. I saw, I think IFC did three on the big screen on an old print like years and years ago. Oh, okay. It looked so fucking good. that's what made me really wanted me really did it. I was so excited. I was so excited. I also wanted to highlight

compensation. Okay. That was really good. I saw it years ago, but they did, they've done a whole new cleanup on it. I think Janice had something to do with that. Okay. It's fantastic. And I've loved every year they've done this. I think like the first year I did this, they did a Max Ophels. They did like three of his. And that's what got me. stuff. Any time you can hit the revival section, really, I really think you should. Yeah, definitely I'll, I can see, I'll plug it right now. October 5th, they have a screening going at 915 at Lincoln Center if you're here in New York for the festival. And October 9th, they're doing one at 1 p.m. Let me tell you, I mean, Hellraiser, see it when you can see it, I guess, but not really a movie to watch when the sun's No, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I like, you know, I can go out to dinner and I'm home by eight. I'm asleep. I love that. I just mean the content of this movie is such that, like, it's kind of hard to vibe, you know, on a sunny afternoon is all. Well, well, it might be dreary that day. We don't. Oh, hope for a cloudy day. Uh, yeah, no, it just, it looks great. And I got to say there is a moment. I was watching this with, with our bud, Sean Weiner as well, he'd never actually seen it before. Wow.

said he had, he had, he was back in the purchase days. He was like, he didn't remember any of it. There was actually a large group of people, because I think someone sort of did a cursory, like, to their own group, like, who hasn't seen this before? And it was a group of like, at least eight or nine dudes. And a bunch of them were like, no, I haven't seen it before. So one, pretty great. Two, well-behaved, repertory audience. not something you get a lot. people love people love giggling and tethering maybe a little like hokey or whatever and like yeah there's gooftacular shit in Hellraiser of course so like laughing was happening

when laughing was appropriate but you know overall really well behaved but something I never noticed before and this is a movie I've seen probably at least like five or six times Andrew Robinson and his the wife there when they move into the house

like I guess loosely decorated it they have a framed poster of a photograph and I guess they're from New York he has all these lines in the movie about like well this shitty house is still better than Brooklyn that kind of shit right

so like I guess that's their New York memory that they took are you suggesting Pinhead saw that and then decided to take a flight. Well, here's just weird. That's just weird. That's very prominent in this movie. The end of the movie, this doesn't really spoil anything, but like the house catches on fire. It's burning to the ground for reasons. And you see this fucking poster, and indeed the Twin Towers inside the poster, crashing down in flames, right front. And I was like, that's weird. And because I'm seeing it so big, I've never seen it's never seen it's never seen it's true. I've never seen it. I've never we've never asked the question before. Where was Clive Barker on that sacred day? That's true. What did he know? When did he know it? These questions have never been asked.

I mean, Hellraiser teleportation stuff. Is that how those cutters got into those seat rests? We'll never know. That's true. Filippe-Savrero comments centa-bites can't melt steel beams, which yeah, I believe that too. Yeah, that's right. The hellraiser's got to think about it's right. The hellraiser's committed mass terrorism acts. Everybody wants to tell you that solving the lament configuration is impossible. I'm here to tell you someone who had a three-hour conversation with Penn Ed the Centibite last night.

It's solvable, folks. It is solvable. We have Butterball here. He's going to be speaking a little bit about how he has been persecuted during this time and how he has been taking the fault for people that are not. part of the centa guy. Oh my god. Kanye West is dressed in, like, right? That does seem to be what his final is to be sticking pins all over his head and then talking normal about his Rubik's cube. Yeah. And so how is he turning that around into flagrant anti-Semitism? Well, that's just a natural outgrowth of the Kanye West.

Like that's not, he doesn't have to do anything to create that. That's just natural. That just comes out of him. yeah no well honestly you've seen centa bites just when I think we actually we got a centa bite walk around Hollywood oh oh god I thought it was a centivite it was just a Kristen Stewart's father again

oh my god by the way if you're listening to it's on audio definitely check out YouTube our channel we hate movies there because that they won't show you that on regular television that was too scary oh no yeah not even Alex Young not even Alex Jones has to you. He knows it's too spicy. Wait, wait, hey, uh, uh, uh, where was it? There was a good comment here. Oh, here we go. Knowledge Junkie says Kanye's centibite name would be

skinhead. Yeah, yeah. No, that's about right. That's kind of funny. Uh, anyway, yeah, this is a restoration that I think you're going to get to see in this new, uh, Arrow Films, uh, Quadrilogy 4K and Blu-it that's coming out. They're calling it's a quart. It's a quart. I spelled that's to put, to put, to only do it with the four that matter. That's very smart. I, I, I, I already pre-ordered this one. Aero, very smart move, I say. Hell yeah. No, I, uh, I got the pre-ordered going down to stick with the ones that were theatrically released. Um, I know Henry Cavill was in one. Stop. Oh, yeah. I think that's the one, I think he's in the one that's also with Lance Henriksen. I think it's like that's the sixth one. Oh, it's the sixth one. Oh,

world. Oh, I think it might be. That might be. You know what? Bring him back. Henry can play big bite. Ooh, big bite. I like that guy. It's big bite, you know? And he's raising hell. Damn you, big bite. I was always promised that there would never be a centa bite more handsome than I, pinhead. Just make it, make it sound like, this is part of that warhammer shit. Sure. And then you'll get him. You just be like, no, the centa bites are a part of the league that is going against the Warhammer guys in the big suits. They're a different type, but it would be part of that universe. And they look like they look like kissing cousins, those Warhammer guys and Centa Bites. Some of the guys inside the machines, they do look a little bit like Centa Bites. uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, we'll, uh, uh, we'll move, uh, let's set comes out. We got a pre-ordered here. Fuck yeah. Um, something that's out now in current release, but we're including it. Uh, well, we haven't done any current release

stuff in a while, of course. Someone was like, oh, it's not counting TIF. It's been two months since they did an OSL. And I was like, well, one, count the TIF shows. And two, we already told you we were taking August off. But indeed, here's a movie that's out right now. did have a special iMacs event that was part of the festival i haven't had a chance to see it yet i feel like and i will rap about it when osl proper comes back later on this month but in the meantime the two of you have it out tell us what you thought all about frankie ford coblas regalopolis want to say yes even though chris and i did ultimately like it some people think of oh the we eight movies guys like this or they didn't like that we are not a monolith

voting block, he saw it, he disliked it you like that, I actually liked it's not so that you realize that we're people, I know it's confusing sometimes, but and I don't know if I like it or not because I haven't seen it yet.

So Chris, do you want to kick off with what this is about? I mean, how do you even, I mean, it's a grand tale of power. a fable as he has as he has as as as as big uh, uh, uh, uh, as he has, uh, uh, uh, uh, has, uh, has, it's, I mean, it is, the, uh, Caesar Catalina versus, um, what is Gus's name, uh, Gene Carl Esposito's character's name, the mayor, right, Cicero, mayor, yes. So they're, they're using all these actual

kind of Roman names. The, a lot of the movie is Francis Ford Copeland equating the fall of America, which we are in with the fall of Rome. Yes. And it really works well, I think the, the, the imagery and stuff really works where there's going to be so much to come with this movie that I think people are just having this immediate visceral reaction to it because it's not about, you know, usually movies are like, that guy's got a bomb and I need to stop him. Like cut the, cut the green wire. Yeah, but you know, you know where the story is going and the steps you have to take. Exactly. But this is more about, this is just a long experimental like, um, fable like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, yeah, the family drama and the ruling families, like, uh, inner court politics. Um, I found it very fascinating, but I understand that it is not for everyone. And I, I've noticed, once I said,

once I tweeted that it was good. People, people got. It is very much not normal. It is just a weird movie. I think it's just easy to say that's a weird fucking movie. I love that's interesting. I think what's using the weird like quotations of Shakespeare that go on for a little longer than they should. All those things. To me, it speaks of a man who's still obsessed with silent movie filmmaking and like montage. Oh, that's interesting. What all this looks to me like is stuff that he took directly from his memories. of silent film and try to put it with the most technology he had at this time. So, I mean, fucking everywhere. I mean, that one is huge, like sunrise, any of the big epics of the time, it really does feel baked into not only the weirdness of this movie, but also like the storytelling apparatus. It's big, it's bold, and it feels like it's from a different era, but it's being used. used with all the modern stars of today it's being used with computer effects from today that I mean maybe they would be interesting to see what he would do but like the the the statues moving and all that stuff it is very effective to me like there's a shot of a hand grabbing the moon that's really intoxicating right all these very weird images that are created yes through the same cheap is the wrong word but like early CGI methods. People have

people have liken this to the prequels. I see what they in the certain effects use, like the way that exteriors are used. Like big buildings look like they're from the Star Wars universe and a lot of these shots. But storytelling wise, I think he's going for something much bigger than Lucas was. And I like all the performances. I think they're all crazy, but I think they're fitting what he's trying to do, which is that

ecstatic performance level like these people who look like like these people like they're losing their fucking minds and like that's what he's doing but he's adding the sound component he's adding all those things that weren't there to create this new language and the language is weird

it's a weird thing to fucking look at it's a weird thing to hear but I think he's looking forward to something that I mean everybody said it postmodern is it like whether he's doing that on purpose or not that's the tone that's where he is right now. People have likened it to Southland tales, which makes no sense to me. You know what reminds me of a little bit of the divisiveness of it? Reminded me a bit of mother, the Darren Aronovsky movie. I can see that. Which I also really liked, and I know a lot of people didn't. I just think this is a very interesting and rich text. I think people will be unpacking it for years to come. And I think, yeah, maybe some of the effects look cheesy and some of the performances are like bombastic, like big.

like, you got Shaila Baf farting around, Albre plaza, I think, I think. I think, I think, is excellent in this movie. And I don't often get to say that. No, no, that's the rare thing. It also doesn't mean you fucking agree with his politics. You just think he turned in a good performance in a movie. Yeah, he turned in a good performance in this movie.

Now push him into the meat grinder. I don't care about him. Someone in the chat, John Korch chimes in and asks, did you guys see it with the live action reporter scene? No, yeah, you didn't. You didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, but, um, um, um, um, um, um, I believe that is chopped out of the massive released version. The, the scene where it's the little square of Caesar answering the questions, that's where it would be, Eric. Right. Okay. Yeah. I saw people going crazy online for it and, uh, no, it did not happen in my showing in beautiful, the kipsy, New York.

There you go. Uh, yeah. I mean, I think, Chris, with the Southland Tales thing, you know, you know, you know, without having, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I think it's possible what some people just might be acknowledging is that it's a big bombastic movie that we might not quite yet understand. Yes. Oh, yeah. That's, that's, that's, again, it is weird. But, like, if you're expecting that kind of story, it's not like, it is not even kind of like that. No, and I don't think, that's what I'm saying is just to, like, maybe try to, like, clarify. I've seen a ton of that too. I think it is more like, wow, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, big ass movie with a lot of, like, big ass ideas. And, you know, we might not, you know, like, uh, uh, I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet, but your kids are going to love it,

like kind of attitude possibly, you know, because like, I feel like this movie was destined to be the most divisive movie of the year before it was like, you know, before a trailer had even been been seen. And I feel like, all. the stuff with the disastrous ad campaign thing put another set of a way I can see the

I can see the Southland Tales thing I just for me I just hope that it doesn't take me 20 years to understand this movie I am I am very I'm excited for it because I respond well to big weird and confusing so you know and I I think,

I'm interesting, I'm interesting, that was another, that was another big, movie that also didn't particularly work for me, but, you know, that's another thing

that people were sort of ready to feel one way or another about like from the jump. I just think it's kind of interesting whenever we get these kinds of movies that you wouldn't necessarily

think of as an event movie in that way. But in a way, it kind of is. Like, everybody is ready to talk about this movie. I think possibly

regardless of having seen it, which is a mistake. That's part of the drudge. because it's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, this is, like, this is not, this is probably not a movie I'm going to watch off it. So because, and it took me a while to get dialed in, too. So I feel like if you get over that first hour and embrace what it's doing, I think you'll find it to be a rewarding experience, but, you know, your results might vary. I even think the first hour is great. I, I really do think it's just one of those

things where you can't be, you can't be running him, you can't be running, stuff like that. It requires and like if you don't want to give it to it, that's fine. And I think a lot of, you know, there's people who are genuine, like film people who don't like this movie who think it's, you know, just a little self-obsessed, a little, you know, arrogant, a little overdone. And that's all fine and well. A lot of the box office idiots, it's, they just don't know how to talk about this movie if they're not. talking about numbers. I hate any I hate any discussion about that kind of because very clearly that's not his end goal. his thing was like I'm not going to make a billion dollars like of course he's not going to make a billion dollars. Are you out of your mind?

Listen, he didn't put Spider-Man in it for a reason. Yes. Fine. Yeah, no, I mean, and to that point, yes, it was released on over 300 screens or what was that number? Let's make sure I get this right here. It was released on over 1800 screens.

Yes, it came in sixth and grossed $4 million dollars. If you, if you are looking at this movie in terms of that, I mean, that's just wrong. I don't know what you're doing. It's not the way to look at a movie like this. It's not designed to make movie. It's not designed to make money. What Francis Ford Coppola movie has been in the last like 30 years?

What was the last one? Dracula? Even Jack. jack was not jack was jack was back box off even jack was not jack was not jack was back he was back he was back he's not putting in double but like yeah this is like i get why people are i turned off by this because he is he's doing all these things it's not a normal movie it's not working or running like a normal movie uh it's very aggressive in its way right yes and remember steve disliked it so remember and for all we know Andrew might not respond to it.

So half of us enjoyed it. You guys, Again, we had movies no, no, no, no, they didn't. That's right. Someone on there might have. One of us has, yeah, but maybe one of us has. Our buddy Bussaris makes a good point. They say, I love these movies that get people talking

constructively and friendly anyways. Yes, and that's, I think, very important here. When we get these kind of divisive titles, don't let the emotion, you know, like, like, don't, don't, like the movie. We're changing the rhetoric. We're tempering the mood. The thing is, it's art. You know, this is like a, this is a $120 million art movie for better or worse. Right. And art, a good art provokes a reaction and conversation. So even you saying it reminds you of Neil Breen is you actually engaging with the art and that is also fair. We're at the top of the top of the top of I do want to get off this really quickly. I think Philippe asked a question that I'm kind of asking myself here,

what do the two of you think about the possibilities of a megalopolis man, Terry? It's not happening. No. Absolutely no way we can do this. No, no, no. I was going to say, maybe, but no. No. Just because of like the scope of like, Chris? A hundred different reason. Like, like, like, there's not a lot of stuff. Like, like, like, there's, there's, like, he's quoting things a lot. The images as well as the words are being, like, it's, it's real, like, there's a collage element to it even. Like, I don't know if we could do that.

But, you know, if people want to try it, I'll try it. But I think it's worth just seeing, just see it. The only thing I will say about the business that it did and why it's important for one reason. But thinking about both in terms of the business that it did and the release calendar, if you're someone who has this movie out in your area on IMAX and that's really how you're dying to see it, you have to see it this week because on Friday, Joker Folly Aude comes out. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Jokey.

Jokey Jokey Jokey dukees. That's what it's been called. It's Jokey Deuce. Joky Deuce comes out and Jokey Deuce, going to be taking your IMAX screen. So if that's a big thing to you, you know, this movie, all this to say that had it done Bafo box office,

they would have made some exceptions. Maybe here's a showtime here or there. I would strongly encourage you to see it in IMAX because there's a very real chance It'll be not out of theaters entirely, because IMAx screens, because Jokies coming in. is going to be on a lot of screens. You're going to see Jokey Deuce on all kinds of screens. Can't escape Jokey these days. So Jokey Deuce will be everywhere. So here we go. The last film we'll talk about on this episode. And by the way, make sure to tune in next Monday at noon Eastern also when we're going to be doing the second part of our NYFF coverage.

But for now, closing out things with something I thought was just, quite uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, , uh, uh, but the new one from ramel Ross, nickel boys is the name of the film. And this was the opening night, uh, selection for the festival. The opening night was just this past Friday night. Uh, and this one's out in limited release, uh, later in October 10.25, uh, from Orion and

Amazon MGM, which is disgusting to say, but that, that is disgusting. But like, it is nice to know that Orion is still putting out the, the big movies. The name is still the name is still the big movie. The name is still the name. If you're, if you're, if the title's not ringing a bell, this is an adaptation of the 2019 Coulson Whitehead book of the same name. It's about two young black boys. in the 60s, in the 60s, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know, it's basically just a fucking corporal punishment factory. Right, like a juvenile hall that is. Yes, yes. Uh, this is in Jim Crow era Florida is where we're, we're here. And, and just to get it out of the way now, I think like, just from stuff I've been seeing on letterbox, you can

either get behind with how this movie presents itself or you can't. And if you can't, and if you cannot, this movie will not work Chris Cabin, Chris Cabin, so it depends a lot. if you've also seen his first film, this morning this morning, which is a very distinct looking movie. It's a documentary, mostly. And it is a really unique looking one.

It is one that its visuals kind of, in a lot of ways, outweigh what it's actually talking about, although I would say it reflects it in a lot of very smart ways. This is is similar in that of it, if not is told in POV. My joke My friend, was like, this lays

the groundwork for the peep show movie. It's the last thing you should take from it, but this does it. This shows us the way to do it. I was thinking about peep show kind of all throughout the movie, and I know I shouldn't have been and I was thinking about other things as well because I can't not. My joke,

had to let I have to let him talk every once in a regular a regular I think but I'm surprised I'm surprised that people are having issues with the way the the film presents itself with those POV like you're living the character you're living through the

character and I think that's a huge part of the point you know as a 40 year old white man you know I like you are put into their shoes and I think it is incredibly effective and I'm surprised that people just are discounting this film just because of that style. we need more style in movies and maybe that's why I also like megalopolis.

But I just think this is a home run. I think the acting is impeccable. I really loved everything about this movie. It's a big stylistic gambit. And I think it works very well for what the movie is trying to get across. And like a lot of ways like another movie, a version of this. The fact that we see the kids, there's this one shot of the kids picking oranges, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, uh, uh, either for like, uh, at the, at the bare least for the government, um, they're doing that. You, that would be turned into a thing of, uh, political meeting before you could actually settle into the image in another movie, like, oh, yeah, we just, you know, oh, oh, we don't pay him nothing and like, just talking about how, like, it's, but when you're in the movie and you just see him walking through this.

And you get like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the sense of it. And then, like, it's a roaring, emotional movie. Like, the feeling at the end of it is so huge. Oh, yeah. And I mean, like, I'm not going to talk about the twist much, but like, there were scenes where I was like, wait a minute, uh, including the bar, the bar scene, which is fantastic. absolutely. Yes, and there's also, and there's also, and there's absolutely. And there's also, and there's also. I mean, I mean, I mean, because you can't talk about this movie without talking about how it's shot, just credit where credits too. It was shot by Joe Mo Frey, who, I mean, like right away when this movie started, I was like, of course, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, um, I was like, I was like, I was like, uh, uh, uh, and that was a, uh, another movie that just knocked me on my ass. And I think in, in both situations, what's interesting and nickel boys specifically, you know, because of like the, um, the setting that we're in, right? We're at this juvenile detention center, uh,

where corporal punishment against, you know, the black boys is clearly happening and the white boys in their own probably not as much probably, although, you know, but you can see again, Chris, about like, like, how would something function? And one thing that I really applaud

this movie for is thinking sort of, you know, critically and artistically about how can we show what this was like? Because this, of course, it's based on the, the causal white book is fiction,

but it's based on a real event. And also in Florida. um, um, um, you know, um, you know, you know, um, you know, like, like, like, like, um, like, um, um, um, and as if that's the only way you can communicate, uh, what's going on. And this movie gets around that, uh, by just orchestrating and informing you about these acts differently, you know, it's, you know what's going on. you're not missing anything, but at the same time, the viewer is not subjected to just scene after scene of whatever. It's a much more subtle approach to telling a story about those conditions and that part of our history.

It's just fan fucking-tastic. And I have to say, it's kind of bonk to me that this is with a fucking mainly streaming service now. Like, you know what? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, like, you know, I feel like, right, because in their own cynical way, right, they'll put this in theaters because it's like possibly an Oscar contender. Yes. Or an awards contender in some way, you know.

Best supporting actress, it better fucking be. Man, ingenue Ellis Taylor as the mother in this movie. She is just fabulous at seeing her turn from, uh, uh, justifiable. city primeval to this like just what a talent man what an absolute talent she is and the the the two guys uh the the two boys elwood and uh other kids name uh turner retz yes elwood and turner yes so uh ethin harris plays elwood and brandon wilson plays turner these guys are fucking fantastic uh they are really I mean, I mean, I mean, they're there who you're there. And so you're with them.

Yeah, yeah, um, um, um, um, um, yeah, Hamish. Um, yeah, how much we said, Angineu Ellis Taylor also great. Uh, and then, you know, what, what you get of him to, um, um, how, uh, oh, yeah, Hamish, dude. Hamish link later as like, the guy running this piece of shit school, um, just terrifying, terrifying buying performance. And I'm just looking now online. It says that there's going to be a theatrical release on October 25th of this year. Amazon, for the big ones, like, I remember they handled Manchester by the scene. I remember they put it in a good amount of theaters. They hired out roadside attractions to do that. Oh, well, I don't know

if they're doing, I guess they're doing that with these guys now. Then that, I mean, that I, that I don't know. Because basically, MGM is now owned by Amazon. That's just, that's what that is. and Orion, you know, you know, you know, but they're not in a position to really, so it's really, Amazon, Amazon does have people that do theatrical bookings. It's just whether or not they want to fucking do that for this movie. You got to push this movie. And they should. You got to push this movie. And I think this movie deserves to be in awards consideration in a major way. I think it will. I don't think it'll take the acting stuff, but all technical stuff. Like Alex Summers and Scott Alario's score is really freaking good. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the like the things like you pick stuff like those kinds of noises burnt into a kind of music rather than being like this is what you should be feeling now and like right right right it lets you again it lets you live in the world as the images are trying to allow you to do as well I'll be shocked if there's no best picture now I'll say I would that would be crazy.

I would I think I think I think I think I think I think I'm I'm I'm I'm not too um you know so it's it's it's it's fascinating we have now in this year two documentarians making a feature narrative debuts uh because uh Ramell I mean this is his this is his narrative featured debut he's only directed a couple of shorts and then uh uh Hale County this morning this evening from 2018 which is a fabulous film unbelievable um so So that's, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, so that's, uh, way more naturally, uh, just immediately, uh, just immediately, uh, running with this thing. And like, yeah, I, I, I, uh, abenheimer definitely has a bit, uh, of, of a struggle, uh, with the end. Yeah, yeah. Um, so just, rave, that's one, I think, you know, it's probably okay to say we hate movies says they liked it. I have a feeling Steve will, Steve will like this, but you know, three out of four guys already, really, uh, you know, how to, we outweigh him. At this point, it doesn't even matter what Steve thinks. We outweigh him and that. We hate movie likes this

movie. We are just, we are physically bigger than him. We do literally outweigh him also. But that is going to do it for this episode of OSL. We ran long. Thanks for sticking with us. If you got the audio only version, thanks for checking that out as well. Again, Next Monday, our second and final bit of coverage from the New York film festival will happen then. in the WHMU just real quick tomorrow. The spectacular kicks off for-or movies is the theme this month. kicking things off tomorrow with a nightmare in Elm Street for the dream. Which one is this master?

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