We Hate Movies - S15: On-Screen Live's Special Coverage of the 2024 New York Film Festival Part 2 + Saturday Night Review

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

On the second half of our coverage of the 62nd New York Film Festival, we're reviewing several more films out of the fest, a few of which are bound for end-of-year attention for sure. We'll be reviewing Pablo Larraín's Maria, Guy Maddin's Rumours, Luca Guadagnino's Queer, Pedro Almodóvar's The Room Next Door, Paul Schrader's Oh, Canada & more! PLUS: Chris Cabin POPS OFF on the new Jason Reitman film, Saturday Night! Be sure to head to our website for all ticketing information on our final shows of the year in Seattle, Portland (Oregon) & Boston! And don’t miss our worldwide digital event on October 23 where we’re talking Scream 4! Can’t make it the night of? The show has a 14-day replay window after the broadcast! Make the WHM Merch Store your one-stop shop for all your We Hate Movies merch-related needs! Including new Bus Movie, Night Vision & Too Old For This Shit designs!  Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

Thank you. And so much. I'm What's going on, everybody? Welcome to onscreen live. I should say, this special primetime edition of our second annual New York Film Festival. My name is Andrew Jupin, and I am joined alongside two other one almost said night owls, but it is 7 o'clock p.m. folks, we're just incredibly old. Some midlife night owls, all right? We have, you know them, you love them. Mr. Eric Siska. welcome to prime time bitch yeah yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right oh

oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i go to bed seven 30 every night is that right yeah that's how you keep your uh youthful complexion beauty sleep speaking of beauty sleep here is a man who's no stranger to a Mr. Kevin. People people like you are like grabbivis. You'd just be everybody. You would just be grabbing

so much better. I mean, not better, just less. What I'm talking about is quantity. I have that quality. Anyway, we're having fun with the video format if you don't watch this on the video version. Check out the video version on YouTube.

That's right. Big hello to all of the midnight mid, not midnight, not midnight, not midnight. Not midnight, not midday, of course, like sandwichedown, Bruce Cyrus 87 of course, sucked. Sucked. Little late night sucked. That's a wonderful thing to do at night. I'm glad, you know, I'm sorry that we left these graphics up and everything. It's amazing. it looks it looks like we're here to discuss the New York film festival when actually we are here to night, uh, uh, Saturday night live movie that has come out that Jason Reitman has just

directed the heck out of. And we're just here. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, baby. I saw it. Well, give us, give us a little details. Give us some details. Give us some typical. Give me some typical. It blows. It sucks. It's, it's terrible. Oh, wait. Jason Reitman movie that doesn't pass the smell test. That's weird. What was your issue? Chris, the guy was your issue with it? The guy playing John Lovets wasn't right for you? John Lovitz. No one's playing Lovitz, man.

Are you talking about Poulushi? Is that who you're talking about? We got an S&L fan here. He knows everything here. I did pay attention to the movie. I do apologize for that. No, I mean, what the problem is is that, and Eric, I know this is something that's a bit of a hobby horse of yours. Jason Reimann is maybe one of, I don't know, two people in the entire.

entire world, who thinks Lauren Michaels, needs to have his dick sucked, just, to make him look like a guy, to make him look like a guy who really knows TV, knows everything about it, is just a brain beyond, a true galaxy brain. Only those two guys really could think that. So it's a, it's, we're loving Lauren Michaels.

Is that, that's just like the snappiest, like, fake it to you, make it, broker you've ever seen your life. Oh, weird. He's a booster. He's a nice guy. He's trying to rise these stars up. Well, but yeah, you know what? That's fine. That's a fine way to see it. Okay. I mean, like, we almost went and saw it yesterday, but we decided to stay home, which was fine. It seems like it's something I'll rent. I mean, I can't weigh in on it. Of course, I haven't seen it. I don't have, you know, nothing personally against him. I've never met him. rightman's movies just don't do it for me i like thank you for smoking and that was like uh so you know there's that going on i have one question for you um because the thing that i saw that i was like i just don't know because i super love the guy but i

just don't know matthew is george carlin oh no all the actual like treatments of the like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, uh, like, uh, it's the right. It's, it's, it's, it's, 100% writing. Uh, all the actors are doing as best as they can with this shit. But, uh, Matthew, like, they, they, the guy, he, I forget, does everybody know what he play, who he plays? I just said it, George Carlin. Oh, well, there we go. George Carlin, uh, you, I love George Carlin. And like, if you're going to pull that lever, I would hope you would put some work into it. I already knew he was kind of a miserable bastard. I just really go on the miserable bastard side of it. And I'm like, I guess it's supposed to give this urgency. Like, oh my God, on top of everything else, the beautiful God Lorne has to deal with George Carlin being a little bit of a nitpicker. Well, you know what? I don't need any of it. I don't need that. I don't need the Belushi contract negotiation shit. I don't Oh, really? It's so like, it's so, it just, a, a, a, you could have made, and he just is like, let me just give you already know, most of it. And then, like, the rest of it is just like, it's not funny also. It's just like, there's one thing. I guess you would want it to be, wouldn't you? It's Saturday Night Live movie. But if you're trying to make it as like this dramatic retelling of,

the most pivotal It wants laughs. It's very clearly wants laughs. It's not This is not Steve Jobs. Let me ask you something else. Let me ask you something quick, Chris. We're broadcasting on YouTube. We've got to keep this for the kids. You know, this is a show for the kids. I understand. Finn Wolfhardt.

Yeah. How was he? He's his generation's actor. Barely in it. Like, really barely in it. Like, and for the kids. the better, he's like the, he's like the, he's like the, he's like the, he's like the, he's like, uh, one of the, hey, you couldn't, you couldn't make the show without the page. It's, well, that's true. That's true. Any kind of like, fictitious or like mashup character, I kind of care. I will tell you a cool thing to come out of this movie existing, though, and it has

nothing to do with like anything you actually see on screen, but I saw a video that Jason Reitman posted where they were showing, they were at like the production office or something. They was showing Acroid a scaled model of how they were going to build the movie. It was kind of neat. It must have been a really well-detailed model because he was like, oh, yeah. And then right back here, we had all these cool dressing rooms. Right back where the audience was sitting, they didn't know the actors were right behind him. The whole day, you know, he's like, you can see him like having all of these memories.

And I was like, all right, that's kind of neat. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like S&L documentary, frankly. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, do, like a real one, not like a TV special that you're going to sell on DVD later. Like, someone could make a, like, like, an actual. Again, just somebody who is not going to spend the whole time giving Lorne Michaels a hand job. The man's got plenty of them over a storied career. I don't know why we would need to do it again. It just seems like a silly thing to do. Lorne is played by Faberbberman Yeah, how is he? He's really good

Again, what's his name? Cooper Hoffman's very good as Dick Ebersall It's nothing to do with the actors The actors are all doing their job and they're very good job of it It's just like And again, yes, the technical workers are also doing everything It was convincing if that's like the high bar I'm sending for what I want art to be now.

but like everything else about it just kind of felt like, did you hear this? Did you hear this? It's like the first page on the IMDB trivia of Saturday Night Live it was the first episode. It would be like all the big hits of like Belushi with the contract. Akroyd and like Chevy are fucking everybody. Chevy thinks he's like a big fat diner or big skinny dynamo. you've like the same shit you've always heard

so I'm sensing if we're going the ebert route I think I would have to be with the down how many stars let's go to the star route stars out of five out of five out of a full five I'm going to say you know for the actors

I'll bump it up to a two it was one and a half but with the acting I'll give it a full two all right this is I think a good place to close your your review of Saturday night Jason Ray And why, why, why, why we gathered here, is to do this, is just to talk about Saturday night.

What is Saturday night, or the longerish, almost featureish length pilot for Aaron Sorkin's Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip? It's about equal, I would say. Like, as far as like entertainment value, you're talking about the. the same side. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, talent on I guess and they're about the same no no no one

let's go pilot there you go there you go so look you never know what's going to happen here on on screen live we're supposed to be talking about the films in New York's New York Film Festival

but you know here's a movie that you know was set in New York so that it was Saturday night so Saturday night you wanted it to be fun great time felt more like Monday morning. It did. It felt just like Monday morning. Right after you get out of the shower, you know you have to rush. That's your Gene Schallet review. All right. Let's get into our own reviews. You do have the mustache. Yes. You can make it work. You don't have the, you know what, though? You need the fucking pressing a clown hair. Oh, we're going to get there. We're going to get some weird product in this. If you get it to there, honestly, I will pay for whatever treatment you have to. If you can, get you. Thank you'll pay for the medical I will. Dude, dude, dude,

you start fucking look at you start even better. Even better. Well, I've only seen Gene Schallet in person. I've never seen Yahoo series in person, so I don't know either way how that's working. All right, let's get into some movies we saw. This is the second half of this. There's still some screenings.

But this is the extent of our coverage. It's what we've been able to see that our schedule will allow So let's get into it, a slow one, a slow one that, honestly, I'm kind of still thinking about well over a week later at this point. But the film is the damn by Roberto Minervini. Now, interesting thing here. We got a civil war, like an American civil war drama directed by this two. So it's kind of interesting take. Spaghetti Western.

Yeah, almost. Yeah. I mean, all of his movies. He's very American. He's very American. He's very American. He's very American. I'm joking. There you go. That's actually true. He's literally Canadian. Exactly. No, so this movie, you know, it's very quiet. It's very slow. It's about a group of Union soldiers who are sent west. sort of keep their eye on the western territory and anticipation of the confederacy or outlaws trying to like sees california and whatnot right that's like that's basically the gist of it it's a lot of like waiting around um yeah but it's all of these really i think powerful meditations on like why uh people sign up for war you know it's asking these questions

about like the purpose of war why are we doing this what do what do i care what's in it for me that I think it was pretty good. I think it was pretty good. First of first of the way it's filmed is really a lot of crazy looking lenses in a good way. And the way they film combat, it's like you don't know who's shooting at you or what's going on. I think they get the idea of, you know, war pretty well of how it's like chaos. I did, I ultimately really enjoyed this one, but it is slow and it's got a few parts of it. that could have obviously been better. I think it's a pretty strong little movie because it's a 80 something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Super short. 88. Yes, exactly right. I mean, that's, I think Minervini, all of his movies look about this. They have a very similar look to them. You should say for people at home, the flick that he, I think, got most play around here. What are you going to do when the world's on fire? He directed that. It was in New York film. festival at some point. He had stopped the pounding heart, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, , uh, uh, uh, you guys, uh, nine years ago, new directors, new films. Anyway, sorry. And the, uh, the other side, which is, uh, politics down south right before

the 2016 election. So have fun with that one if you want to. Um, uh, you know, I, I, what I like usually about his movies, um, especially the other side and, uh, world, uh, worlds on fire. Yeah. Is the talk. there isn't really a lot of talking in this. Not at all. A lot of like statements, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, conversations aren't really being having that much here, maybe one or two. Uh, I love the action scenes. The action scenes are amazing. And like, yeah, I kind of want to see him, uh, do more of that stuff. But I did find myself kind of, uh, looking for just a little bit more of the inner lives of these guys of the, uh, uh, the, uh, you know, these guys talk about, even if it didn't feel convincing, to get me a little bit more of their inner thoughts coming out. If you have to do a damn narration, I would have been fine with that even. But it still looks incredible. There's like, it, it looked great on a big screen. Um, it definitely did. Yeah. I'm, I, I mostly like it. My biggest beef with it was, uh, a lot of the actors in it. Um, I think, I think we were maybe like a little fast and loose with the script, like make a conversation. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, like, like, modern feeling. Like the way they, some of the actors speak is very anachronistic sounding.

There's an actor at one point who's, he's going on about something and he keeps putting like in. There was a moment where I realized it. I was like, wait a second. This is like the fucking 1860s. What are you doing? Yeah. That should be, you know, it shouldn't be like. It shouldn't be like. It should be. I reckon. You know, you know, you know, I reckon. You know, you know, you know, I reckon. You know, you know, I think it's an interesting thing to check out. It's since we saw it, it actually got picked up by Grasshopper film, which makes all the sense in the world. Those guys will know exactly what to do with it. Released TBD, but, you know, it'll probably be streaming pretty fast and all that stuff. But yeah, again, I don't know. Like, I'm a sucker for like big. Vistas. It's been It's been a interesting year for watching Western movies on the big screen in one way or another. Mr. Sorry. Sorry, Chris.

I hope you're listening. Don't got to apologize to me. This is for me and Kevin, okay? I love you. Buy him a banana milkshake. I hear he loves him. Close your ears. I love you, Kevin. Is that right?

Banana milkshake? There was some video I was seen of him like, going to every, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like at a festival, like at a stop where he's doing a he tries to find banana milkshakes around. And, like, this is a shot of him, like, casually sipping one and being like, fantastic. Ooh, I don't know if I like it anymore. After this has come to light. I don't think I like him anymore. Really? Oh, man, they're delicious. Oh. A banana milkshake? Where are you getting a banana milkshake? Uh, uh, in Traverse City. That's not near me.

I'm sure you could find one, Eric. I'm sure. And, you know what? You're a grown man. you can make one. I can't make anything. Does his search history just match all the tours he's been on like film festival or whatever? And it's just like Venice best banana milkshakes. Well, that's. And we go to whatever. Los Angeles best banana milkshakes. Google. I wonder if he goes to like who cares Pennsylvania and he's just like, well, is Hapsbury still here? Oh man. They had. they had the best banana milkshakes. And you know, and you know, and you know, but I did it was fantastic. I can't believe hapsberries is gone. I'm going to make a three hour movie about it. All right, Papsberries. All right. Let's get out of the next one here. This is a weird one. This was a funny one. I mean, weird. Of course, no stranger. This director. It's the new one from Guy Madden, also co-directed by Evan Johnson and Galen. Johnson. It is called rumors. I got to say, this frame, uh, uh, uh,

a movie in their, uh, and their film festival, and whatnot. I got to say bad move. Bad move. It does not, it does not, uh, represent the movie accurately. Oh, okay. But I think there are two

ways to do this. Are you representing or are you enticing? That is enticing. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. I'm like, I'm like, I disagree. I'm like, I'm like, I disagree. I'm like, I'm or if you're thinking about maybe enticing people to actually buy a ticket, cast a wider net, a more general audience. How about a nice frame of all the fucking great actors that you have in this movie? Like, put that up there. Maybe you got, maybe you got a little something. I just think it, this raises a certain kind of expectation. that the movie, while it is weird, I don't know, I don't know, like, like, like, like, like, like the fucking, and it kind of does it.

There's so much more to the movie. The brain is a very, the brain is a very small side character. Yeah. Most of the scenes are with Alicia Vikander, and that's kind of, they have a little thing going on and that's about it. Yeah. But to your point, Andrew, it is a little more. grounded than you would expect. It's about all like the world leaders coming together for the G7 summit and how they have to come up with this arbitrary statement. And then they are left alone to their own devices without their staff. And what happens in this weird world changing, perhaps event that is correlating around them. I found it to be pretty good. I really enjoyed this one. yeah it's got like uh

like uh, uh, uh, like, like, uh, like, like, like, like, like, well, like, like, uh, we can't, we keep trying to do this thing and we can't seem to do it. And all of these like extra things outside are happening to us. And then like the joke just gets bigger and bigger every time like, wilder, more heightened things are happening. You know, maybe something in the statement about like they, you know,

working on this precious statement. It's, it's very funny. It's straight up, straight up a comedy. A complete comedy. It's a straight up comedy. Do not, I mean, do not, I mean, I mean, I'm mad at a, I'm not, I like the guy. I like the guy too much. I like his ideas. I like the way he makes things. This, I mean, to me, actually, this is probably his most normal movie in a long time. Like, I don't know if he makes many, like, a forbidden room if anybody's seen it is not a movie you could describe easily. This one's pretty easily describable, at least. You won't, you won't get all the details, of course. But I do like, all the Canadian. jokes are great, the head of Canada is, the head of Canada is, like, like, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, like, swooned with, uh, Angola, Angola Merkel, Cape Blanchet, uh, you know, it's definitely got, like, the Angola haircut, which is great. Demeanor, the whole thing. Like, I, again, like, I, I, I, I kind of, uh, prefer him when he really

goes out on the limb and goes real weird with it. Uh, there's a really good, um, his, his version of vertigo, like, like, like, like, like, uh, uh, uh, uh, like, uh, uh, uh, like, uh, like I, I, I, I, I just love watching his stuff. And this was no different. I like, including the big dumb brain. I love the big dumb brain. Uh, I love that beer movie you did way back in the day. The status music in the world. Yeah. Uh, I'm, I'm, I'm very, uh, guy madden, illiterate for the most part. I'm aware of status music in the world and I've seen my Winnipeg, uh, and now this. Yeah. I, I, you know, He's just a fellow I'm not terribly familiar with.

I had not heard of the two Manitobin directors. He's also Charles Dance as the president of the United States of America, just doing an English accent, very much just acting like an English guy while also like sleepy Joe Bidening it up kind of a performance. The big fat French guy from Bo is afraid. I forget he's so good. um, something something like that. What's amazing

Denny Mersh. He, he's really good he's really good and Bo's afraid. But like, it's so weird to me because like what I know and if anybody's been watching French movies or French dramas lately, he's known for like this incredibly dark divorce drama called custody about the

getting of the custody of a child between a mother and father. And it's a very pop boiler, what is, what is what? What is what? You can't really pop. It's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you're just, so then all the sudden see him do this and Bo's afraid where he's being so goofy and so, like, madcap. It was just a delight. American audience also saw him in, in Glorious Bastards, who's the French farmer that gets questioned by. Hansland. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I was afraid he's afraid he's afraid he's afraid. I think so, yes. The guy who's with Nathan Lane and

yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right in Steve's, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Danny Manochet totally, yeah, he's obviously playing the French president. It's just, it's a really funny movie. It's a really, you know, it's a movie that's meeting the moment. in a lot of ways, you know, you know, what they're, what they're, uh, uh, uh, uh, what they're, uh, uh, what they're, uh, but yeah, like, if you want a movie that's, like commenting on global warming, uh, and also features multiple scenes with zombies jerking off. This is the motion picture for you. Um, see, so the fucking big brain ain't even the weirdest part of it. Uh, yeah, Alisi Vikander, I love to, uh, now this is two really great performances by her in movies this year because she's also. wow.

what a knockout performance. Oh, from Tiff. Tiff. TIF, holy Toledo with that movie. So this is out 1018 Limited from Bleaker Street. Interesting pick up from those guys. They are a company that I joke about a lot because they basically pick up,

you know, sweet, genteel old people movies. You know, movies with like old people characters for older people, older audiences. Not all, you know, not 100% of the time, but that's kind of like a comfortable pocket they fell in for a number of years. like they have this movie earlier this year. just like rando sci-fi things they're trying things they're mixing up their slate you know i like it for them yeah uh kate blanchet is in this nice uh part of her career now where like after tar she doesn't

seem to have much that she wants to prove anymore like she's just kind of having fun so like i feel like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I mean, , heck, even that, uh, really, uh, part of that, uh, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, something she would, but like, she's doing a jarmoosh movie next, like, like, she's just having fun now. Like, she's just like, I, I've done, I, tar did what I had to do. Yeah. I'm, I'm just gonna have my fun with these directors I like. I love that. I, I think that's great. Um, has she, uh, uh, worked with him before Jarmish? I don't think so. I do also want to call out. I do also want to call out. Nicky Amooka Bird, who plays the Prime Minister of the UK, is another great performance. She's someone I love when

she pops up in things. She works a ton. She's in old. She's a knock at the cabin. She was on Luther for a while. I think it's like another cop or something. Really? Him. Yeah. I mean shit man she was in fucking jupiter ascending even um she she works she is really really good in the movie too just everyone like consistently consistently funny and it is kind of a fastly written a dialogue with that requires to be you know rapidly performed or whatever um so you know everybody kind of does a good job keeping up the pace with that I also love the guy who plays the Italian Prime Minister who's like the new one. He's newly elected. He's just like a total, like, like, like, like, like, like a total, like kind of guy. Pretty fun stuff. Um, all right. Uh, the next one. Eric, I think you summed it up best on letterbox, my friend. This is the new one from Pablo Lorraine. This is Maria with Angelina Jolie. Oh, boy. This is a, uh, it's a Netflix motion picture. Uh, so, you know, this, you know, Eric, you said it, man. Like, this is the, now the yearly.

Netflix, not good musician, or just biopic movie. Yeah, I did not like the Bradley Cooper Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of the same mold of man, right when, you know, when we were in the theater and you're, we're sitting in the theater, there's press screening, it's at night, it's like, oh, okay, oh, the number, yeah, yeah, right when you hear that Netflix logo come up, that, but, blah, whatever, but, um, yeah, I knew we were in trouble. I didn't realize this was like, and then I was like, I did not, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I feel bad. I, I, I wanted Angelina Jolie to have a win. I really did. Yeah. But I just don't think anything comes together here. I, I, I agree with you. I thought, uh, I, I found the whole thing to be quite flat, to be honest with you. I think, like, she's doing her best. And I think she comes off as good as she does, because it's Angelina.

and she's fucking great and you know, you know, you know, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and she's, like, like, and she's, like, one of the best to ever do it. So, on that note, it was nice. It's a Pablo Lorraine movie, so the costuming is expensive and gorgeous. But, you know, I just found the whole story of, like, the final, you know, year in the life of Maria Callas, like so repetitive. They never go into anything. It's sort of like Leonard I feel like I somehow know less about the person after sitting here for two or two hours. Yes. Yeah. And I liked Spencer and Jackie. So I wasn't I didn't have an axe to grind with this. I wasn't coming. I wasn't coming to hate this. I just couldn't believe it because a lot of it just feels so dumb. Maybe they should have like the guy they got played

dude. That's that's great. Apparently that guy's JFCK and other things Is it that guy? Oh, let me see. I think someone told me that but I don't, I can't tell you it is. It is. It is. He's also in Fallout. That wasn't great either. He's in what Fallout as Mission Impossible Fallout? He's like the handler at the handler, I was like, oh, oh, oh, okay, oh, I was like, oh, like, like, like, okay, so I think the thing that kills a lot of these movies, and this one, I think is murdered by this.

But, like, sometimes with, like, a biopic or whatever, you're trying to, like, do something different with it, right? And my brain is now instantly, because we're talking about that fucking SNL movie, I'm thinking about Wired. and that's a John Belushi biopi, like, like, like, so, you know, so, you know, it's how the movie is structured, right? And you know, I guess the guy's great at JFK, if he's getting all this work playing JFK, but it does not work here. I kind of, another thing about this is like, you know, it's like Maria Callis. That's, oh, how great she is. And then we're just talking about JFK and Aristotle are massive. and all these men, it almost becomes like, a movie about these men in her life versus me really, you kind of have to go into it having, you know, a little bit of a knowledge base about Maria Callas, you know?

Yeah, you got to be 65 years old. What were you talking about the structure? The thing about the structure that I was saying, right, is it's all around this Cody Smith-McPhee character who's, like, interview. her. But he's not a real person. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's just, he's just, he's up front in the movie, so this is like, like, he's, he's this, he's credited as fucking mandrax, the medicine. And so it's like, it's not even any kind of, there's no stakes to the interview, you know what I mean? Like, no one's gonna fucking see it. It's a fake nothing. She's talking to medicine. in her head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, the biggest the biggest, her and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, kind of in love with her. We've seen this trope a thousand times. I know it probably happened to her, but

I just felt like every single thread of this movie is unfulfilled. Yeah, yeah. The guy who plays the, the, um, Butler is, uh, Pierre Francesco Faville. Dino, who we've seen in some stuff, he's in some stuff, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, in, uh, uh, uh, he's one of the, the big up doctors in World War Z that they're talking to at one point. He's worked with Ron Howard a bunch of times. He's in Rush, Angels and Demons. Uh, we've definitely seen this dude around. I feel like there was

something else he might have been in that was possibly a, a previous episode or maybe it was just that one. But, uh, he's the best part of this movie. He is. He, he, that's why I wanted to give him some credit because like he is, like him and Angelina, like, Those scenes, I think are, I think are really great. Oh, Eric, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a woman who plays her older sister in the movie. Oh, yes, yes, yes, Ramada from, uh, hot shots. Valerie Galena. That's right.

Yes, yes. I was nice to see her again. It's, I like what she popped. Oh. Yeah. Uh, she, I, I less heard, uh, wasn't she in portrait of a lady on fire? Yes. Oh, yeah, you're right. She's the old. Yeah. Oh, this is nice cast. I'm sad to hear about this. The cast is the other thing, you know, you know, you know, you know, like Cody Smith McPhee, I think is great. I really liked him in, uh, what was the movie, Power of a Dog. Uh, right? That's what was called. The Power of the Dog. Yeah. Do not recall. Oh, yes. Kirsten Dunst, also Netflix movie. Oh, yeah. The Jane Campion movie. Right. Elba Roller Walker is in this. Oh, man. Yes. Yeah. No, it's a, it's a big cast and like, you know, the performances were all fine, but just like the

structure of the movie was killing me. It's a lot of her just like, you know, oh, well I'm not sing again? All these scenes with her secretly doing like voice exercises in a music hall or whatever. But like she goes into that fucking music hall like six times in the movie and the outcome is the same. The scene is the same. I'm like guys, you know what I mean? Like it just really, really got to me. You know, this is the third time he's made a movie about a, you know, troubled dead woman. And I think I think I think I'm at to kind of just reached my limit. Like that's where I do like it now. I like Jackie quite a bit. And I really like the other one about the poet, Neruda. Oh, Neruda is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like his most of his more interesting stuff has been the stuff that's broken with that.

Emma is probably his most interesting movie in the last like decade. And it has nothing to do with anybody you know. It's about a dance troupe that might be. evil. Yeah. No, no, you know, you know, you know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, you know, yeah, it's quite good. Um, he's also apparently, this is weird. He's an executive producer on the Paul Walter Houser luckiest man in America, Chris. How about that? Hmm. Oh, I saw IFC actually bought. So that's funny. It's something that happened. So he's interested. Yeah. is vaguely based on a true story.

I will say, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, that's, that's, that's the life of Maria Callis. I think you get it a little more in a doc that Sony pictures classics put out, geez, maybe 10 years ago at this point that I believe is called Maria by Callis, um, fascinating stuff and like footage of it. That's, that's the other thing. That's the killer, right? Is the end of the movie, like, credits and whatnot. There's like actual video of her and I'm like, yeah, the doc, the doc is superior. Once again, there's a documentary about the same sub, sub,

and it's, it's not always the case. It's not always the case. I'll be honest. I, I, I'm probably going to still end up seeing this, but the Netflix thing has really taken the zap out of him for me. Like, I have usually watched all of his things. I haven't seen Alconde yet. And this one, like, I will see it eventually, but it's not going to be on like, I got to get to this. It's going to be like, well, one of these days when it's a rainy Sunday, I got no. to do. I'll flip it on for 30 minutes and probably the same thing. And, but, and, and, and they're both. The, the, the idea is interesting. This is a, a subject worthwhile. It's just, this Netflix look is really eating away at him, I think. Yeah, I mean, he's got to stop making movies that are shot to look like fucking perfume commercials, you know, I mean, because that's what it's getting into. And he works with talented DPs. It's not for that, but it's just like, got to just kind of break it's not a slump

so many of them look like that Alcée is kind of the difference maker there but anyway so that's perfumy look at black and white like it still looks like what you're talking about that's fair so see for yourself folks this will be in hyper limited release Thanksgiving 1127 here in the States

and 1211 on Netflix proper I you know think that they would be fools to not make this one of their year-end competitors. It's that's, it's, that's, that's the, that's the, that was the, that was their hope with the Bradley Cooper movie too. They just, they want that goddamn Oscar. Nomination. And like, you will get, I mean, it's Jolie not doing a Marvel movie. So of course you're going to get it. But like, Jesus, I think that was the last time I saw her on the screen. Wasn't he? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But, you know, I wish she had more to do. But, you know, but, you know, I wish she had more to do. But, but, you know, like Andrew was saying how those scenes were repetitive. It's just like, but how many times? I don't know. That was, I mean, that was another thing, man. Like, obviously, like Angelina, you know, doesn't sing like an opera singer or whatever. But like the blend of the actual singing onto the image, it didn't, there was something with the sound mix. I don't know. Now it's lip sync. Now it's lip sync. Now it's like the sound for the music. It's like the song. It felt like. Yeah. Exactly. It felt like we pressed play on a CD. And it really. Yeah. I forgot about that. But that's too bad. That was another horrifying part of that. Um, speaking of horrifying, by the way, do you guys know that our final, uh, worldwide digital event is happening right before Halloween times? Oh, really? Yes. It's our final of the year. but we might do these again if you guys like them.

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Moment.com slash we hate movies now. We are also in the flesh, going out on the road. making our debut in Seattle, talking about former Seattle mayor, Harry and Andersons. Bigfoot lives with John Lithgow's family for a while, right? That's a wildness movie. You know, this is the Pacific Northwest.

You guys interact with big feet way more than I do. So this is a movie about that. One of you guys in Seattle encountering a big feet, taking them home, and trouble ensues, or does it? Do we start to love him? I think there are many, many Sasquatches in that area, and I think they just live there. I think they're peace-loving people. It's all up in those dense forest, dude, it's like the pot farmers, the serial killers, and the Sasquatches, you know, they're all. I think the Sasquatches and the weed farmers have joined forces. I think the Scotch, they might have an Ewak-like village up in the trees. They join forces to fight Slender Man. that would be nice. That would be nice. Hey, hey, uh, uh, uh, yeah. Uh, uh, uh, I appreciate him. Uh, uh, forgot to write something, uh, in the chat. Thanks for the show. They say, see him Boston. Oh, all right. Well, thank you. Brandon. Or Brendan. That's very cool of you. And, uh,

there's your actual note. So people can see that it was real. Uh, but we are, we are about to tell you all about the Boston show. But right in between that, we're going to be, uh, returning to Portland, which is a we've not been to in a minute, but we're going to be there talking about the Goonies at Mississippi Studios. Love that club. Yes, this is a cool, ass place. A lot of fun, and we're talking about the Goonies.

Now you see you guys up in the Pacific Northwest, you have Goonies. I don't really encounter these that often. And this is about a couple Goonies, find lost treasure. Well, on the East Coast, we call them disgusting shipboys.

These are these kids are. These are. These are. These are. These are. This is right. This is right. This is right. This is the originator of the truffle shuffle. Uh, the him and Sean Ashton in this movie are definitely like key elements in the evolution of the disgusting shit boy. They are. Oh, absolutely. Elemental, I would say, to this whole thing. Uh, Bous Cyrus in the chat, nailing it by the way. Let's put that comment up. Oh, level. me, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, you got to have the check out the video feed. So, you deal with gooners, not goonies, that's right. In the East Coast, we have these guys called gooners. Guners, man. Pacific Northwest, you have goonies, and those are way more fun and normal. They just jerk off to pirate stuff, so that's fine. Unlike, that's normal stuff. Unlike, I mean, I mean, it's a good open space. You can do whatever. Look out. Hey, speaking of doing whatever you like, we are doing a movie that we chose ourselves.

That's right. In Boston, pretty woman, as we make our return to left Boston. Jason Alexander, as I said, looking like he does in the McDLT commercial. So it's that era of Alexander. We should underline. Jason Alexander is got like, he's got like, but he's a, but he's a, December 4th, that is December 4th, in Boston, it's at Laugh, Boston. We'll be talking about pretty woman. You see in Boston, you have pretty women. Yes. And in New York, we have pretty women, too. As, as I promise, I don't want to insult anyone. I'm definitely going to get Steve to sing King, King of Wishful Thinking for this show. It is undecided yet if he will do a trouble. shuffle it would depend on I get in here before the

before the show. I might be too humiliating. I would save him I do not have to leave the stage okay well then I have to get one of you to do it I guess. Move on I have to get it that way get one of us to do it oh whose great idea was it? It's mine

but I'm not doing it. You're doing it. You're doing it. info can be found at w hmpodcaste on our tour page you get all that uh we want to see y'all out there want to see at the virtual show it's going to be a lot of fun all around great way to close out the year with uh four shows and speaking to closing stuff out let's close out the back half of uh this review set list we have here this one uh is just going to go quick uh because i turned out to be the only one that saw it the new one from luka guadonino it is called queer uh no there it is It's put out by A2. It's put out of course, it's called queer. It's put out of course, uh, uh, uh, uh, I, I, I will say one, um, I've never read any William S. Burroughs. So I think right there, I'm already kind of missing something. Although I vibe with naked lunch much better than I did with this movie. This didn't really come together for me. And not for any like huge reasons. It's a, it's a well made Luca Guadena.

you know, you know, he doesn't make poorly made movies. My usual, my usual, right? It's too long. Like, he's always too long. That right away kind of sets me a bit bumming. I mean, it's two hours and 15 minutes. You kind of feel it. It's a very literarily structured film, right? It's three chapters and an epilogue. So the first chapter's a ton. And I was kind of sitting there like, wait for the movie to get going. I will say, Daniel Craig is fantastic in the movie as the borough surrogate character. You know, he's really swinging for something here. There's a lot going on in this movie. This is a sexy movie. This is a you're seeing it movie. Boy, it is, it's James Bond like you never saw him before. I'll tell you that. And it's, it's something to be hold on screen. It was, it was fantastic to watch on the big screen. I can't wait to see it. Yeah, for Daniel Craig. Craig's really great. My beef is the other guy. He's the sporting character. He's the character that Craig is sort of very like sadly pining over and obsessing over. And you know, just tell me what you want me to fuck. I'll take you on vacation with me like that kind of shit. And this guy, man, he just did not do it for me. Just. Just. really charisma list. It made me, it was kind of hard to get into his character, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, is he actually super put off by Daniel Craig? Is he humoring him? Is he actually maybe into it? You know, I'm sure it actually, like, moves around a lot between the movie, but I couldn't tell at any given point what this kid was thinking. And so it just killed me. And then the problem is you have the dynamo, of the movie, the movie stealer

in a tiny supporting role. Jason Schwartzman I mean, he's got, it has to be a little fat guy suit on, he's got this big bushy beard, he's just fucking throughout, like just fucking his way through Mexico, like an amazingly funny character. Dude, it's like you've never

seen Jason Schwartzman like this. It's amazing that both this year he's got that and if it comes out. He is also kind of unrecognizable in the last showgirla coppola movie in a tiny than this i mean he has a decent a lot playing with craig a lot which is cool uh so i was perking up every time he came on and so i have to say at this point this is still a totally fine movie for me it's a total like three and a half star affair looks good pretty people wild sex scenes good performances uh one journey

through an ayahuasca segment which I found quite interesting. It turns into a tool video. I thought that was kind of cool. But man, when I tell you guys, I was complaining about anachronistic speaking with the damned. The anachronistic needle drops in this movie. I don't know what he's trying to do. Wait, what is it like limp biscuit? No, like you've got like at least two prints needle drops. you've got, the movie starts. The credits are a, what do we make fun of it? like dead English girls stuck in a music box, kind of cover. Usually reserved for Zach Snyder movies. There's a Nirvana cover there that goes right into an actual Nirvana needle drop of Come As You Are in a very music video scene. And, you know, maybe the music was working for some people. It just, it just was ripping me out. of this movie. And also the Atticus Ross what's his face score. Trent Resner

Again, they make scores I love and they make music that's really fantastic to my ear and it just doesn't fit this movie world either. At least in my head to my ear, it was a huge distraction and it goes like that throughout the movie with the anachronistic tunage and it killed this movie for me.

So if you're perhaps perhaps a bit too oversensitive when those decisions are made, you ask me, it's not a full-on lean-in like Marie Antoinette is. No. Right? The Sophia Coppola movie, right? Like that's like, that's what this movie is. I like that, though. I like that movie anyway.

Oh, yeah, the movie's great. That works because it leans into it. This to me just felt like scattered needle drops of songs that wouldn't be written for another 30 years. And so I guess I didn't the old guy who is the old guy. I didn't get it. With the William S. The only needle drops I want to see is heroin.

Well, I imagine you see a little bit of that. I would imagine you see some of that. I mean, I have read this book. I'd never thought it was much of one that should have been adapted, at least by Luca. I have the same issues as you with all of his movies.

I think all of his movies are too long. I I I I think he's I think he's I think he's I'm like he's I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like dude in this movie I was like oh so he's going back to the bar to try to get laid for the fifth time it was like I got it you know what I mean I was like everyone in the room understands this bit about Daniel Craig let's keep the story moving and it just doesn't does not happen so that's me you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, man, they are the best part of the movie. The same way, I'm sure, like, uh, Jolie's going to get something for me. Even if she doesn't win, she'll get noms. Craig will be getting his noms for this. This is a good reason to put him on that list. And I think yeah. You know what's funny is I spent the whole movie being like, man, this is so cool. I mean, because like, Benoit Blanc is such a cartoon character. Bond in his own way, right?

So with this, it's awesome to see him, like, do this, like, you know, really risky, new performance. I can't remember the last time I saw him do something like this. And there's a moment in the movie where he whips out like a black, it's like a PPK-looking pistol and points it at somebody. And I was like, oh, there he is. God, oh. I thought you were saying he whips out a black peepee. I'm like oh, is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is on in the I got to say, and there's some wild shit happening in it.

Not enough fucking ding-dongs. What? You know, yeah, yeah. Dong drops. Yeah, more dong drops. Yeah. Less fucking Nirvana and Prince drops. I want to see that grandfather clock go back and forth.

Oh, Lord Almighty. All right. let's move on. I think this was a a real fantastic one I think Chris you and I missed this one from Almodovar here he comes with the room next door this is his English language feature debut he's on two shorts

of course in English but Chris you want to take it away with this one sure I thought it was very good you know it's mostly Julian Moore and Tilda Swinton, Tilda Swinton has recently has, and she, Tijuana is an old friend. The extent to which it's never clearly mapped out in any way that you know that they were close, but you don't know exactly the extent of it really. And she, Tilda Swinton makes her an offer having to do with the cancer. That means they have to live together for a little while.

And it's a It's one thing that I think is amadivora's sense of humor I think this was a lot less funnier than I'm used to him But it is dramatically so live And so immediately engaging And like it's shot like an almanivar movie So it looks incredible So like I never was out of it

I was in it the whole time And the performances are absolutely fantastic Any of John Tataro He's very good And it's actually, we'll talk about it's also a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a difference is not a bad thing with auturors like this I think Trader makes some very decisions that are completely different from those three movies he just made This feels a little different from Amadavar he has little things that he picks up There's still deck chairs which he loves

but there's all these other new things that he's trying like the the wooded areas like that just has not been in all of our movies really that much and like it's right immediately interesting to see him play with these things yeah he's much more of a city and beach guy I guess I was totally in this movie I you know it's um by the way congratulations kudos on dancing around how to talk about what this movie about because I went into it cold other than Almodovar and Tudorah and the only reason I knew that the three of them were in the movie was because they were listed on the call sheet for the press conference afterwards you know what I mean I had not I try especially with these guys like when it's like an art house event guy you know or gal like Kelly Reichart movie too like I try to you know stay stay as cold as possible and so when the turn goes here, oh, oh, oh, oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I was like, uh, uh, like, like, like, uh, uh, the, uh, the soap opera vibe that he, you know, uh, accompanied so many of his movies, if not all of them to a degree is, it was not lost in translation. Like, it's still there, you know, and that's why I think a lot of this was funny to me. I mean, it's such a grim subject matter overall, but, yeah, I do. did find a lot of moments of

and there. And Totoro really, it's just a really great it's such a small role. To hear him talk about it, I guess him and Pedro are buds. And he was like, yeah, I'll do whatever you need. He was very cool about it. He just wanted to be in it because it's like

very little to Toro screen time. But the two of them are fantastic. And I just, I fucking loved it, man. I really did. Yeah, I think like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, he does, he does, he likes women in his movies. He, he prefers women leads. So, masculine, like, entrances are very, like, pointed and, uh, punctuated in a very specific way. Usually they're husbands and stuff like that.

It's not the case here. Um, and I like that he, he seems to pick up on how. they they they're right they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're right yeah yeah a very a lot of a lot of guys and like broken embraces uh bad education although well bad it's is a male led one uh vulvaire there right yeah um you know great uh new york stuff what you have of new york in this movie looks gorgeous the the killer so eric how about this they uh they go to stay at a house in the cat skills oh right and uh cut to this house and you're like, holy smokes, look at this fucking place. I wonder if this is on any of the real estate things. Nope. That was

like, like, boom. I'm watching the movie. Spain for cat scales? No. No, dude. I started looking at trees for a second. And I was like, hang on. It happened. It's all right happened, Eric. It's a time travel now. Sorry, dude. I shouldn't have brought it up. No, that's really disturbing. No, I mean, this is going to be high atop my best of the end of the end of surprise. has an Elmadovar movie once again. Limited right around Christmas, 1220. It'll be interesting to see the push for it because this, I would be curious, could this actually happen? I don't know the rules for this, but like room next door, it's Almodovar, it's fully financed

by Spain. I don't know I have they put this. I have no idea. I mean, I guess you can't could you can't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why. I mean, I think I would have I'm usually like Amadavar

usually doesn't, it has very few movies that I don't like. I like most of his movies and I've seen all but his first one. And he but he is one that goes, it comes back and forth, that was just good. And some of this was just like, like, uh, uh, uh, like, uh, uh, uh, I think I would have reacted to this stronger. If I had just not seen one of my favorites. Parallel mothers to me is one of his best by a mile. Fabulous movie.

Unbelievable movie. And like this, I think I maybe was coming off a little of the high of something that big and that like politically outraged. I mean, this has its own politics that are I think pretty good and pretty bold. Um, but I think that might have been why I didn't like blow me out. Oh, oh, oh, that was just like, that was just a good, um, um, um, yeah. I think that's maybe where it came from. Um, yeah. So I think on, on both sides of this, two varying degrees on both sides of this, go see that movie. Okay. We are just past the top of the hour here. So you want to get to the last review of the evening. And this is one, uh, the three of us, we're all looking forward to. It's the new one from Mr. Paul Schrader. It is called O Canada. And it is with

Keno Lorber which is fine limited release on 126 you know from from A2 4 Carta Focused features and then Master Gardner Magnolia

Pictures and this isn't like a quality thing I'm doing this is just on your scope your size of your company and then Kino Lorber like he's we're getting smaller and smaller studios here and I think with this one Kino's got a I got a little bit of the hands. I have to say, I think some of the bigger distributors missed the other ones. I prefer the other ones because those have like a guy with a gun.

But I do appreciate what this is doing. This is very, it's interesting because it's a guy who's like, he runs away from everything in his life. He runs away from Vietnam. He ends up in Canada. It's, it's a stark and honest kind of portrayal. It's very good. I think gear is very good. Yeah, Alorty is good. One of my issues is really, minor, it's some of the locations

are great, and they look really good. There's a scene where the younger, Jacob Allorty plays young Richard Gear, and he's getting on, he's going to an airport in Virginia. It's underlined, we're in Virginia,

they pull up to they pull up to the airport and there is a crest on the side of the building like could you have at least a different angle taking it out and posed I just that took me out of the movie

because you know I see that I see the shape of Long Island and I freak out now did you happen to notice because that's funny it's a wait which airport is it? I guess idle ice slip or something. Oh I I'm imagining. I flew out of ice slip. Also, though, but I was like, what are you? I was like, man. It's a small budgeted movie. I guess maybe get some sort of coordinators to like close the parking lot that day. But like it's supposed to be, you know, the early 60s. He's getting dropped off at the airport. And they've got like four or five period cars like pulling into the airport. But then you look and there's, I don't know if it was like a rental car parking lot or what. But like, in the

the back of this frame it's just the most modern, just like rose. If it was just that, there's some interesting stuff they do, Schrader does in this movie where, you know, Richard Geer is in the mirror and then Jacob Allorty is in real life in this scene. So doing that with cars and other things like bridging the modern to 1968 would be interesting. But I just can't forgive that uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, , uh, uh, I, I, I, I think, yeah, it's, it's clearly Schrader getting some stuff off his chess. And I, I find it really interesting that like this year, and other people

have made this comparison. It's, this is not an original thought. But now that I've seen both of the movies, this and the Cronenberg, man. Oh, yeah. Like, here are these two, like, heavy hitter directors, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, they're really like, getting some stuff off their chest in their very different, but very signature ways, uh, I guess minus a lordy, like, scribbling with a, you know, whiskey in one hand and a gun somehow in a third hand, uh, no firearms. But, you know, he, he, he is a writer, uh, at the start of the movie. But anyway, um, I just think it's very interesting getting these two very, like, like, like these two, uh, uh, uh, you know, you know, I, I, I felt

I felt this was way more confessional than even the last three, even though those all seem to very much come from very deep personal spaces for him. Uh, I mean, this just, it felt like a very personal statement from a very quiet place within him that he's been trying to get in contact with for a while. And I think this was just a movie that I finally hit. And I do think, I, it was funny. I was reading an interview recently that I guess he, had done in a Q&A. And he was like, Richard's good. Any other performer would have done. I saw that. It's just like, okay, man. That's classic ball. Thank you, Paul. But I think gear has, yeah, hasn't been this great in a long time. He hasn't like really like walked out and be like, I'm going to try something here. I, last time, or in Moverman's time out of mind, which is pretty good was the last time I saw. him like really swing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is so much, like, like, uh, uh, uh, uh, he works with unease in such a, uh, very particular way as to the relationship between him

and Umah and the relationship between him and Michael Imperioly's character. Uh, oh, yeah, Imperiali in this movie, man, that's pretty wild. Do it definitely put not a Canadian accent. It was pretty cool. Yeah. I like, I'm like, do I buy him as Canadian? Not really. But, that's all right. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's, a big, uh, certain kind of character, but I, I, I, I, it's cool seeing him in other stuff now, you know, yeah, yeah, I prepaid for him. I was all in on him, whatever he was going to try. Uh, I do like, they, they, he doesn't do the, uh, touch up thing, uh, or the digital stuff, Michael Imperioli, uh, plays himself as like a, a 20-something year old or something, and it just has black hair,

just has dyed the hair black. whatever. to me, it's much more. Well, if we can make Robert De Niro like he's got 70% less fucking wrinkles. I know. Is this more convincing everybody?

Huh? It's a lot of a shit. I mean, it's interesting. Because, like, of course, that is 100% like a budgetary thing, right? Oh, yeah. But it plays into

how I chose how I don't want to read the movie I don't want to get into my thoughts on like the form this movie takes because it kind of winds up like spoiling parts of it so you know just just to say that

what Schrader is doing with the form of this movie and certain shots and things added to this movie I think plays a larger role as to what's going on in the mind of the gear character and when I had that thought the movie started working so much better for me and I was able to kind of like look away on some of the movie. I think it's a

read on the movie. It's just it was a thought I had and uh you know I think Traders doesn't do a lot of stuff like that he doesn't play with things in that way at least he hasn't in a while. It's very different it's very different from the recent output of his yeah. There's usually a gun to Eric's point there is usually a gun in the traitor movie. I guess my gun. Oh, Canada. We are in America for a decent portion of the movie though. They could have found the time.

Yeah, there's a scene in Florida. Get a gun in there. Sure. But anyway, yeah, limited release from Kino on 126. So that's a real look to your art houses, but also look to your streaming platform. forms. I'm sure it'll be, and later, and that's fine. Any way, I think, I don't know if we mentioned it was I've been a little negative, but it's still a good movie. You should check it out. That's all right. So that's it, folks. That is our coverage from the 60-second annual New York Film Festival. I hope to be back doing it for

you next fall as well. Before we go, just some stuff to catch up on. Of course, last week, big week on the Patreon. We love movies, for our fourer movie, talking about Halloween four, which was a ball. The response to the episode has been absolutely fantastic. So if you haven't checked that out yet, people are liking it. It's not just me. And also on Friday, we had the second episode of Too Old for this shit talking about the second episode of The Penguin, still a rocking and rolling season. Oh, Eric, you weren't on that episode. What was your letter grade for Penguin? I, you know, know i listened to it and i agree with you guys completely it was it was like a b minus to c plus i thought that was very kinetic and very engaging and i kind of wasn't as into the second episode but i still like this world we're we're building and i'll you know i'm looking forward to the next installments totally uh and then uh sputacular continues of course tomorrow this was a wild one the final destination Oh my god. 2001. Look at that. It's one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the worst movies we've done in a while on this show. So that's kind of exciting.

You were you were offended by this movie. I was so upset. I was a great route up. Big week on the Patreon though folks because that that top tier level on Thursday. Oh man. It's time for the October edition of once in a lifetime. Oh, this is great. about a magnificent, made for TV thriller called face of evil. this is a recommend, crazy, domestic thriller, killer thing. It's on YouTube. It's on Tobe.

It's called The Face of Evil and we're covering it for once in a lifetime. Indeed. That's right. Shawnee Smith. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. Carol Siever herself. Some good kills for a TV movie.

It's a lot of CBS. You CBS. And then we're closing out the week, spectacular animation, about, speaking of one of the worst, the Ace Ventura cartoon. And this is an episode where he encounters a couple of witches in a town, you see.

Yeah. You know, it's fun. Like he's walking around with a jack-o-lantern on his head there. It's not fun, please, it's not fun. Don't, yeah, it's not. No, this is, don't say that. Terrible cartoon, but very fun episode of us covering a terrible cartoon. That's right. So all of that's right. Of course, we hate movies.

The final destination we hate movies, wherever you get your podcast, of course. So that's going to do it for New York Film Festival coverage of this edition of On Screen Live. No show next week. Some of us are doing some traveling. Week after that, I think this Monday slot we're going to be here doing the October mailbag. So keep your eyes peeled to our socials for that. So until next time, I have been, Andrew Jupin. Eric Siska. scabbin take it easy folks have a good night thanks for watching bye-bye Thank you.