We Hate Movies - S16 Ep823: Tron (1982)

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

“Bury me at Flynn’s Arcade” - Steve On this week’s show, we’re finally talking about the landmark special effects movie/ride, Tron! This is the film where a computer programmer, played by the handsome as all get-out Jeff Bridges, gets pulled into his own computer system and has to battle for the freedom of… accounting software? How incredible are the cinematic vibes here? Is it any surprise Bridges needed the codpiece adjusted? How many Star Wars references can you find here? And thank The User we didn’t have to deal with an over-explanatory opening scroll or narration, get that outta here and let us use our brains! PLUS: Never ride in a helicopter with a cast member from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze!  Tron stars Jeff Bridges, Bruce Boxleitner, Cindy Morgan, Barnard Hughes, Dan Shor, and the late, great David Warner as Dillinger/Sark/Master Control Program; directed by Steven Lisberger. This episode is brought to you in part by Rocket Money. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney dot com slash whm today. That’s RocketMoney dot com slash whm. And by ASPCA Pet Health Insurance. To explore coverage, visit A-S-P-C-A pet insurance dot com slash WHM That’s A-S-P-C-A pet insurance dot com slash WHM. Eligibility restrictions apply. Visit ASPCA PET INSURANCE DOT COM SLASH AMAZON TERMS for more info. Be sure to pick up our digital show on Terminator: Dark Fate, available now in our Patreon shop! Don’t sleep on snagging your tickets to our 15th Anniversary show this December where we’re talking all things Arnold in Total Recall! It’s gonna be a gas and we wanna see you there! Click through for tickets now! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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It's a kick-ass movie. Hope y'all are having a great week. Enjoy the episode. This week on the program, we're talking about a film that certainly takes a real hands-on approach to battling corporate espionage. It's Tron. I'm Andrew Jupin.

Even say it, act. Eric's Cisco. Click. Oh, wait. We're in the real world. Sorry. Chris. Chris Cabin. Yeah.

Although Click Cabin would be very fun to hang out with, I think. Click Cabin's coming through from the other world. And we hate movies. Hello, We're finally getting around to 1982's Tron, directed by Steve Leesberger. Not much of a directorial list from this guy. We're talking 1987's Hot Pursuit with John Cusack. Nice.

Chris Cabot, I never saw that, but I saw you gave it two and a half stars on Letterboxed. Yeah. And 1989's Slipstream with Mr. Mark Hamill himself. Oh, that's a disastrous movie. Not a good one. That movie has been thrown around for years in the back offices as episode fodder. I really like this movie but I guess this guy was flipping burgers

the last 20 years. Oh, come on already. 40 years. I don't know much about. He was managing the burger flippers. Come on now, Eric. Be nice. I do think that this movie's revolutionary.

I do think this movie is really cool. This is the first time I've seen it that I've ever been conscious. I watched it back in the Astoria Days with Eric and Chris. Oh, yeah. I there. And I do not remember a goddamn thing.

That was my first time watching it. Yes. And then watching it again, this time, I'm like, oh, it's a movie. You know, this is one of those movies. I saw this as a kid growing up a bunch of times, you know, the Disney PG thing. It was on TV a lot. I always liked this as an afternoon movie. But for so many years, after I watched it, I was like, what was that about again?

Yeah. Including, like, I watched it in 23, according to Letterbox. And I liked it. I was like, what was that about again? And I watched it yesterday. And I was like, oh, right, this is a good movie. It's like that weird thing where, like, I could always remember, I mean, like everybody, right, he goes into the game.

Yeah. But the, the why and what goes on once he's there, I was kind of not remembering too well. I think it's all done very well, though. Like, I, I think it's very entertaining. I was, that's what I kind of, I forgot how satisfying this movie is. Yes. That's, that's where I would kind of push back a little bit. Oh, here we go.

Let me just my glasses here. No, it's super fun. It's just... Steve Dillinger over here. End of line. No, I think that there is like... It's a little clumsy in balancing both stories. I mean, I do want to kind of go back a little more to the real world.

We spend so much time on it. The ending has the fast forward button. He's like, hey, he won by. You know what I mean? Like, that's a bit of an unsatisfying. I'm cool with it. Get us in and out. Just because you want to see the Caddyshack lady's hair

in full bloom doesn't mean that we have to go back to the fucking real world that much it's the fucking thing's called Tron see more than glasses

no I my biggest problem with this movie is I think it kind of drags a little towards the end when we're getting to that climax

but because it would have been a five star from me but it's just four I yeah it's just a lot of the stuff is like really cool

I mean it's also by the way let's let's say what it is it's a bit of a Star Wars ripoff in almost every single way just a lot of different you know what is it see I didn't think about that ever it never came to mind

who's the old wizard of that old the old guy that they cram his fat ass in the movie in the middle done bar or whatever I'm a little oh yeah this deal is getting worse all the time we've got oh yeah penis head yeah due mount penis head guy in the Tron

world I guess he helps him power down the he does he's got all the magic parts we got two intrepid dudes one lady one dude is handsome and roguish one dude's uptight who's got all the super magic they've all fucked each other

exactly just like Star Wars sure uh yeah I don't know that I see it but that's fine I mean I think this kind of feels to me like a high tech like uh uh wizards and shit movie like that's more of the vibe that I like he gets sucked into a

a mystical land and it's you know you replace swords with frispsies, I guess. Where red lasers and blue lasers fight each other and that at the end you have to get a narrow thing through a smaller thing and then it causes a huge explosion. Just thoughts that I was having. That's also a lot of movies end with

getting a thing into another thing. I mean, I guess it could be Star Wars for the sake of our video. It could be a thousand other things. Sure. Because it's an adventure story at the end of the day. I was 1982. It was the biggest thing of the world. Tron was not the biggest thing in the world. He's saying Star Wars.

Oh, sure. I'm not doubting that it's there I'm just it never impeded for me there are a lot of movies out there that for me like I see the Star Wars and I'm like oh well this is just doing the same fucking thing like that Zach Snyder movie

a bunch of movies it's it's a bunch of movies but like this it never came to mind to me it never was like oh Zach Snyder's rebel yes part two the state the only commentary Steve said like has fallen asleep

through the... Part two, the snoregiver. Yeah, no, I never finished that shit. I was like, I never need to sleep that good again in my life. I'm not going to chance it twice. It's dreadful. But this movie, you know, yeah, we're doing it obviously because Aries is coming out, but also I will say,

I'm a big fan of Tron Legacy over here. I don't know anybody else. I've got to do that one. I know you guys loved that one, and I just, I've never... You never saw it? I never saw it. You weren't there that night? I don't think I was there that night.

No, he definitely was not. That was Jack Kennedy. I think Kennedy was there for that one. Yes, and, yeah, folks, he's, Chris is not referring to a dead president. There was a actual person we knew. Her, uh, yes, they did a seance and we watched Trond Legacy. Are you, uh, don't get it. Chris, pass those cupcakes.

Two more down here. Iq bin Echinine weed cupcake. Ask not what you can do. Just pass the fucking joint, okay? I was going to do a whole thing, but I'm getting a little dry over here. We can, we can hop box before we get to the, theater boys we were legendarily stoned for tron legacy

and it was hitting every button you wanted it because that was the thing you guys talked about it like it was just like oh you missed it then i was like i guess i'll never watch it because i missed it you know what i just had to be there dude i did have to be that moment you know you you miss me uh really out there on mushrooms that we had a delicious chili that our friend made and uh i'm sitting there this was after like two and a half hours straight watching fucking teen mom two

DVR at their house. We finally put on the movie. I spent about like 50 minutes feeling like I was sinking into the floor just going Olivia Wilde so beautiful. It must have been really annoying on the other side of that, but that was my... Oh, it was quite entertaining.

As I remember that day, it was quite an entertaining display. That was number two for me. That movie does play very well. I'm very, I'm looking forward to hear what you say. Thanks, Steve. Yeah, you know, who plays, you know, Dillinger in this, the great David Warner, Dillinger in

that, I guess his son, I think it's the same name, Edward Dillinger, Killian Murphy. Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I do want to get to that especially before I get to Aries, which I do want to see the trailer, I mean, mostly for the soundtrack, I mean, the soundtrack to this with the great

Wendy Carlos, by the way. Yes, I didn't know she did the music for this, and this was a delicious treat. And I guess it was a crazy thing. We'll get into the movie I guess in a sec. But her soundtrack was lost for so long. Like you couldn't get it anywhere. And like tapes that they had found

it sort of like had deteriorated a little bit. So like the fact that you I think can actually get it now and it sounds great and you can just listen to her music. Did she put it in some jeans that she very rarely wears and then just like kind of went away from it for a while. And then it was like, no, I looked everywhere. I said, did you check those jeans you very?

Honestly, if you're missing something, it's in the jeans you very rarely wear. stop trying to get into windy Carlos's pants over there. No, but I think when she did find the tape in there, she also found my wallet. Because that's, I'm always like, where's the wallet, man? Where's the, oh yeah, those pants I haven't worn them. My receipt from Price Chopper, there it is.

I do, I guess maybe why I like the real world so much of this where this starts. Yes. I love, I want to bury me at Flynn's Arcade. That's where I want to be. Yep. That's it. And we need, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No, I was just to say I could sink some quarters into space paranoids and make your head spin. Oh, dude, yeah. The amount of quarters, I'd sink into that thing.

No doubt about it. But I think the thing is, like, it needs, like, the reason why I think Flynn's is so appealing to guys like us, and we ran into a place like this. I believe it was in Portland the last time we were out there, we went to an arcade kind of situation. That was nice. The difference between like a bar arcade. and like a daven busters right like bar arcades lean more towards the scuzziness of a flins arcade and that's what i need scus to go along with my arcading and my pinballing etc i would argue the thing with flins is that unlike a lot of the barcades and the different kinds of ones we've got to you look like you are supposed to have sex in flins yeah and that it could happen at any time yep that is a very specific tone that they are putting on there that I don't think goes to

even the place of Portland which was very nice. I just don't think you see very often. But this one specifically, insertion has to be happening in the four corners. To that point, insert some more corners indeed.

It seems like, you know, Joe Don Baker could break down the door and yell at his daughter. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. What the hell are you doing in here hanging out with that Jeff Bridges?

Oh my God, I just figured out. Let's open up our own video game slash sex bar called Coin, slot. Yes. Yep. Dude. Oh, we get closed down in a week. Sexy singles or maybe just looking for

people stepping out or whatever, right? Like, they can come in, you relax, you play some fun games, and you know what? No one's saying nothing. What happens at the coin slot stays at the coin slot. Are you guys ready to go to jail? I'm ready. Oh, shit. That didn't work.

We're losing money. Well, rebrand as a strip club. No, keep the sign. Same thing. same thing you got business savvy you're saving us money already no honey you dance to the mega man soundtrack okay that's what you do that's what this is where we're going with the business you we already got a lady who has the Mario and the Zelda okay she does that already you got the Mega Man deal with it you want to go you want to get

fucked by a guy dressed like donkey Kong go in the back welcome to coin slot oh guys it didn't work out either we're gonna keep the sign we're to rebrand this is where people can return cans for money now are you the so are you supposed to be the snake from a metal gear solid or is this from a kind of snake and ladders situation that you're going for here it's much like uh the swinger community right when you want to tell somebody in public that you're down with the arcade slot fest at the coin slot you wear like a little Mario pin but he's upside down yeah exactly that's the signal or you're you're down or you Or you dress like Waluigi and get more ass than you've ever gotten in your entire life.

Totally, totally. Nowhere else in the existence of humanity has a person in purple suspenders like that, or overalls, I should say, gotten that much tail. But you know that guy's laying more pipe than the fucking Magic Kingdom had to spare. You guys are figuring out ways to make this movie even better. Like if Jeff Bridges is sucked into the computer as Flynn, and then he has to go up against a guy that looks just like him with a giant mustache. It'd be awesome.

You don't know why you have all these pineapples on you We don't believe in produce in this place This is all baby oil in here Oh, ew You gotta oil up to play the games at Coinslaught It's either that and we clean the machines And we're not doing that Nothing grown out of the ground

Is passing these gates other than yourself, Pop Yeah, it's Coinslaught You're gonna want to keep your shoes on No matter what happens here at Coinslaught, all right? All right, welcome to Coyd Slot. Remember, shoes on at all times. Here's your complimentary plastic gloves for touching the joysticks. Look, Carlos, you got to put the sand down in room four, okay?

It's getting too bad. We got to soak some of it up. It's bad. You want a sexy dance here? Coinslet, yeah, I'll Michael Sheen dance for you a little bit. Do a little bit of that Tron Legacy dance for you. Oh, dude, he's doing those, like, kick moves. Like, he's kicking his legs up in that movie. Oh, man.

He's a real ham in that second one. Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Kennedy, yes. Well, there's a large outbreak of hepatitis C, and it's not your fault. It's coin slot. My goodness, it's not my fault. Take me there. Take me there. But it's a really, it's a really, like, chill video arcade.

I do like, and it is, I mean, I don't, this movie is very revolutionary, and the production design is outrageous. I really like this way. I know I'm sounding like a jerk. I think the going into. this is like your beginning of going into a computer, right? I'm sure this happened in science fiction books and otherwise

beforehand, but probably not on film, I don't think. That's the thing is this is really like cyberpunk is gaining steam, but really you got to credit cyber yuppie over here with kicking a lot of it off. We're two years out from Blade Runner, the novel

Neuromancer, a lot of that stuff gets cooking, I think partially to Tron. Oh, absolutely. There's direct tethers to the Matrix as well, you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. But yeah, I think, Steve, you bring up the thing about, like, sexiness or whatever, the part of it that's also now a total fantasy, I think most places you go, I don't want to say everywhere on the planet, because everybody's doing something at all times. But that notion of like, like Jeff Bridges, when we're introduced to Flynn in this movie, like, he is really rocking, like, some game that he's playing.

And, like, the babes are hanging off. Like, this was a time when you could look like Jeff Bridges, be good at video games and snag pussy. Like, amazing fantasy. Yeah, look like Jeff Bridges is how you get to snag push. That's the underlying thing. That's the key to the coin slot. But these ladies are all not looking at him, but looking at the high score. And that's what's getting it going.

Oh, that's wild. That's really weird. Jeff Bridges in 1982 could go to any bar in the universe. Open a big bowl of Wendy's chili and start mashing it with his hands. And some ladies, like, hey, how's it going? How you doing? I like chili, too. Oh, that was so stupid, Cheryl.

Can you get me some premium crackers? Just to get some salt in here. What I really love about this movie is that, you know, I feel like when you were going to see it in 1982, which not a lot of people did, there was a massive failure at the box office. Shame on you, America. Yeah, we blew it. We blew it, right? But the movie, like, you go in, you bought a ticket. Like, this is that movie where the guy from the last picture show gets sucked into a video game system.

Like, I'm going to check that out. Oh, wait, the guy that from the last picture show gets sucked. Yeah. One for Tron. One please. But no, it does not hide the inside of the video game world. You're in it right here. Like, we meet David Warner as Sark. Like, right away, you learn that he's like the big pipe-pitten motherfucker in this game. impossible to beat, so on and so forth. And the light cycle thing is really cool. And the computer graphics, which were, again, revolutionary at the time. And what they look really cool now, because this is the smart thing about this movie in certain movies.

It's like, it's not going for realism. It's going for aesthetic and vibe. And it makes an enormous difference. It buys you so many decades, you know what I mean? Making them like their face is black and white. It's like Harold Lloyd becomes a future guy. like a silent film. Second best expression

of what the inside of the computer like working looks like, number one remains, and I think Eric is with me on this one, Black Hat. Oh, yeah. They show you the inside of a computer in that movie? Oh, yeah. I forget exactly what that looked like again, Chris, but I love that movie.

Could you illustrate it for it? Those big, like, gray, like, squares are, like, hitting off and they start, like, really revving up and, like, like this over and over again. I mean, it's more realistic than this one. It's a great movie. It does the same thing of like really expressing

what is like the danger and everything that's about what's happening. You caught me off guard though because I thought you were going to say disclosure. Similar hackers, maybe. Not the biggest fan of it. Or a super human samurai squad. Anyone remember that show?

Yes. It was like a Power Rangers knockoff and like you would go inside the computer and the computer like all the tower, all the like computer towers were buildings and you could just do like a big, you know, Kaiju kind of thing. It was stupid city. This episode's brought you in part by Rocket Money. You know, with prices going up on just about everything lately in this economy, we got those clowns in Washington. Oh my lord. So dealing with money can be very stressful, particularly right now and trying to manage those

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HM. Tell them who sent you. Okay, folks, that's very important for me. RocketMoney.com slash WHM. It stands for We Hate Movies. What I was thinking of, I was trying to find the episode earlier today, and I realized when I got into Wikipedia to look at the episode list that this show had way more episodes than I thought it did. But I believe, unless it's like a weird false memory thing and it was something else completely, I would. I was pretty certain there's an episode of Muppet Babies that does a Tron kind of parody where like scooters got like a virus on his computer and like they go inside it to figure it out

I think it's a Tron parody It would match up year wise Yeah totally But so we get this idea of what's going on here You got these little dudes and blue suits They are random programs here and there And they are being forced into I mean this is like you just

You explain this to a fucking studio executive man you better pass around reefer for everybody but it is a they're getting forced into these gladiatorial type games all overseen by master control who's the villain of the film who's taking over all these programs to absorb their essence and become more powerful and stronger while he's doing it this is very weird you know you have these guys that are they're portraying like actuary programs accounting software and whatever else that is now being the lead and to be deleted, I guess you have to play this game to the death. And it's just funny to see a slubby guy in this outfit saying, saying stuff like, sending me down here to play games.

Who does he calculate he is? To my wife, Mrs. QuickBooks, I always loved you from the moment I first saw you. Goodbye, Krippy. I always loved you the most. But the great part is so

what you realize earlier on or eventually is these dudes of the blue suits look like their user and or which is

their program if you if you program something you look like that person that's why user so like

for instance like you delete your trove of pornography and now your pornography looks like you and it has

to fight to the death now my pornography looks like me I don't want to watch that that's why we're deleting

What are you fucking kidding? There's a really perverted version of Eric in the blue suit named Smap. Oh, dude. He's the best at the pornos. I come for the user. No, I think the...

Yes, indeed. He went. Now I'm going. God. Steve, what? I mean, I do think that the inside of this world would be a lot fatter, though, if that was the case.

It's like, it's just, you know, the few slubs that are like dead meat's, you know, programs are a bit on the pudgyer side. But I just feel like everybody would be a bit rotund. Like looking at this way, right? Like, uh, uh, uh, uh, Tron in this movie, Bruce Boxleitner's computer avatar, um, Tron is a security program, right? Security programmers make security programs. You know, it was a security programmer fucking Dennis Nedry. Exactly. Yeah.

And his dentry don't look like Bruce Boggs Lightner. The guy that, uh, uh, uh, the, not Tron, but Jeff Bridges, uh, guy in the CL, CLU, yeah, the best program ever written, Chris, Clue. The clue has, the guy that Clue has to face off with the first time he goes into the glad editorial read, I think is also accounting software. And that man is both bald and looks like he's never pleased a woman. Yes. So that might be something.

They might be trying to give you some kind of expression there. some representation. There is. That's what I think. Yeah. Because yeah, it's kind of cool. We zoom into the, we watch somebody playing Light Cycle. Then we go in to see what Light Cycle is.

And then because it's a brand new concept and it's a bit clubsy. We get this text of Jeff Bridges. Meanwhile, in the real world. And I'm like, I know exactly. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I think like, indeed we are pseudo-savvy 2025 audiences.

Of course, yeah, exactly. But I'll tell you this, though, Steve. I'm glad they just left it as that. I don't know if anybody read up on the like original Blade Runner opening-esque opening this movie had where it's literally it's narration by somebody. I think it was maybe the guy who plays the guardian there at the end of the movie who's also the scientist guy. Oh, by the way, I just realized I looked it up. I was wrong. Not two years away.

Blade Runner are the same year as this. That's pretty amazing. What a year for weird movies. It's high five. Hell yeah. What the hell was I saying? God damn it. The text in the beginning.

Oh, oh, it was just supposed to be this guy narrating like, here's what's going on inside the computer. Literally like when the movie looks like this, you're here. When the movie looks like that, you're over there. Exactly. That's some handholding that you needed back at 82 because we just never did this kind of stuff. He's going where? Where are they?

What? God damn it. I just see a tank. I mean, you do kind of need that. Like, remember there was all these critics. when the Matrix came out, they were like, I don't understand what's happening.

Yes. Did anybody get it? Yeah. Man, I'll tell you what, the Matrix for me was not a, did anybody get a situation? I thought that was pretty as clear as you could get.

Pretty rock. What's going on? Rock's pretty hard. And it also has this toy story-esque kind of world of like, what's happening inside my computer, when I go to sleep kind of thing. Like, all this is happening.

You dream it about what's going on your laptop, dude? Yeah. I just remember Jeffrey Lyons was one of those critics that was like, what is the Matrix? I don't understand it. That's why he was awesome always. You see Bridges, right, as Flynn on his personal computer here.

And he's playing, you know, he's using his Clue avatar to like search around, you know, the inner workings of this computer system, like he's hacked in. So it's kind of cool because you can see like Bridges as Flynn and he's tippity type in a way. and like Clue, also played by Bridges, like does the thing. So it sort of sets up, hey, he looks like this out here. It's the same actor inside, you know, make that connection kind of a deal here. And this is pretty cool. We sort of see, you know, he's doing, the Clue performance is a little stiffer.

Like, he's not playing a robot, but he is playing like a computer man a little bit, which is cool. It is better than, I have to say, I really like the movie, but better than Legacy, which is just 100%. the CGI of Jeff Bridges younger self. In legacy, Clue is all that guy when he's... Clue does reappear. I would argue like in the world... Oh, when Clue reappears, because also I believe there's a prolog... Yeah, there's a prolog where it's also de-aged.

And that's the problem. Like, if they had just kept Clue inside the computer world and he looked like a computer person, I would be more forgiving of it. By the way, I believe, you know, at this time of this recording, we have not seen the new Tron movie yet. yet. I think Jared Leto's supposed to be a computer program coming to the real world. And maybe that's why

his performance may maybe he's going to be okay. We'll see. I would delete that program. Yes. Yeah. Do you de-res that program immediately? Or I wouldn't open it. If somebody sent me Jared Letto, I wouldn't open it. Oh, Jaredletto.exe. I'm not opening.

No, no. No, no. That's going to destroy my computer. Don't need that malware. Which one of you kids downloaded Jared Leto on the fucking family computer? It doesn't work now. He's sending me condoms because he's the Joker for some reason. I don't get it. It's fucking stupid.

It said Dallas Buyers Club. I thought it was one of my gambling apps. Oh, yeah, this must have poker on it. What the hell? Computer's staring at me all dead-eyed again. Wasn't a bit of poker in there. But we see him, you know, he winds up running a foul of these recognizers. they're called, which are the big arc-shaped things

that sort of fly around. I got to say, looks like we're getting some recognizers going out into the real world in this new movie. I'm kind of badass. I think the recognizers reminded me very much of Star Fox, the video game. Like those... Yes. Yes. They definitely saw this

movie. The way they fall apart. Yes. Yeah, that hugely. Fuck, man. Imagine having a recognizer of your own in the real world and you're going full killdozer on the town. what a dream I love that Bridges as

clue in this like he's not just robotic he's a little cowardly he screams like a lady for a second which is like so rare for a Jeff Bridges

in any context which I was like that rules right when he's being tortured yeah that's crazy because I can think of it I can only think of it twice now

it's this movie and when he drops the J on his crotch in Big Labowski and he's crossed in the car those are the only two times I can think of that happening amazing

but yeah Like, it is great, because he screams because Clue crashes into a wall trying to outrun these guys. And it's the scream, like, right before he hits the wall. And then it's just you get out in the real world with bridges again. He's like, oh, damn it, busted again, he says. But meanwhile, this thing is being tortured, like, who is your user by Master Control? It just gets a race, which is kind of cool to watch.

I could watch Little Blue computer programs get tortured at least 10 hours a day. Yeah, it's just a fun thing to think. about like because he's like oh it's an illegal code we're detaching this program from the system it's a pirate code came here with a stolen password who programmed you you know it's it's just fun to think about my little programs being deleted and what that is like god did god program you but so you hear the voice of master control which i believe is also just a modulated david warner it is yeah uh yell get me dillinger which is the real world David Warner and we cut to

I just have to say this chopper here the like the ways that you can just do the tiniest bit of practicality and all of a sudden it's a futuristic helicopter like they just put fucking red reflective tape all over this thing and it looks really cool it's amazing looking why aren't we doing this

every day it looks like a tron thing in the real world did you do this on your car Eric did you already do it I did not but I will be doing that tonight this is a dystopian future wherein everyone travels by helicopter and this future we're in right now sucks

I think I would rather be here than there I'm not getting I'm never getting a helicopter ever ever like this is like a world where like if the company Blade took over all like the taxi industry yes exactly I know that helicopters are dangerous but I'll take any dystopia over this

dumb ass one we have dumb toopia dude oh dumbtopia short lived fruitopia flavor he had tasted like shit ever in my life am I getting into a helicopter no reason to dude

I never want to I'm too tall I'm gonna get a haircut going in there what if David Warner is in there and he wants to talk to you about Ninja Turtles 2 Secret of the Ouse

and he's got all three stories all right I'm getting in come on in I'll tell I'll tell you some awesome stories hi honey yeah yeah no I'm gonna be a little late for dinner

yeah no no going on a helicopter ride with a long dead man Yep, got it. It's time appropriate. When you die, you see a vision of David Warner and a helicopter and he's like, come along, we'll talk about all the ninja turtles.

What about Star Trek? Was it four? I'm in. I forget. Five. Oh, I'm in five, actually. No, yeah, honey, I'm getting on this helicopter with this dead man and I think I'm probably going to die too. Our death traps. Always have been.

So, yeah. I won't see you or the kids ever again. Goodbye. Are you going? Actually, Toka and Razor were puppeted by three people. Pull up, pull up, pull up, pull up. This is awesome. Wait, oh, real quick, we got like 50 feet left.

What was it like getting decapitated to the omen? I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not seeing anything flashed before my eyes. No life of anything. It's just this awesome moment when we're talking about the turtles. That's all I'm seeing. I'm not seeing the babies or nothing So we go to

Dillinger's office which is a very Robocop business man kind of office Really love his like touch screen here That he's got going on He goes in there's this dude there And he's like hello Mr. Dillinger He's like, that'll be all Fred This guy leaves I'm like

Is that guy just keeping your office warm I guess Or making sure no one uses this computer? I think that's the thing Look I've got a pretty cool round of solid tag going on right now, Reggie. Would you stay back and make sure no one futses with my desktop? Reggie's like, this guy's a fucking idiot. First of all, you know what the password is? It's

master. That's it. Just master. So, you know, David Warner has this conversation with himself. It's Dillinger talking to master controller here. And he's like, oh, listen, the boy detective, he calls Flynn. I love that detail. Yeah. Yeah. Has been

snooping around trying to find this file. He doesn't say what the file is just yet but the file getting your hands on the file kind of is the mcuffin of the movie um it's a thing that says that actually uh flin invented all these video games that david warner took credit for so dillinger wants to shut down uh this whole you know program area until they could find flin and and root him out uh this is how we meet bruce box lightner as alan bradley yes and i love this cubicle hell that he's in yes I mean, also very Matrixy, right?

Yes, totally. Apparently, this was just like the animator's office, they said. If the trivia is to be believed. Much like Jeff Bridges, a hunk. How are you a, his Christian god-given name seems to have been Bruce Boxlightner. How do you not become a sci-fi actor? You're just Bruce Boxlight. It worked against him because then he was sentenced to years and years of Babylon. on five. That's a

even for nerds that's a heavy trip, dude. That's a tough one. It's I tried, man. I honestly did because I got a buddy who digs on it. There are people who tell it's the best. No, he's very like aware that it's not great.

And I watched it and I was like, no sir. There's enough science fiction on my plate. Those fuckers are dedicated though and you are riding the fucking the circuit. Like you were just signing fucking autographs every day of your life and it's just that's how it's going to be with this guy oh bruce box lighter between tron and and this he's on concourse for he might have his own oh yeah he might have his own

like just uh on nobody with him not not any of the babylon five people just just him yeah i think that he's that big speaking a ride in the circuit tron yeah yeah so he's okay eric no but he's like whatever uh he he he realized he gets logged out a little fun he's eating this popcorn and his buddy who played by Dan Shore who is going to be Ram in a minute

or I think we've already seen Ram Like he's That's him His dual role is like Can I have some of your popcorn Which I The answer is no dude And we've talked about this

Yeah yeah I mean Because again I don't want your fucking fingers In my office snack I'm here doing computer coding 17 hours a day Get your own snack From the vending machine

Absolutely because you know I worked in cubicle hell like this for a long time. Many, many years I lived in a cubicle like this. And I'll tell you something, you pick up things, you know things, you start seeing things around the office. I will say if you work in an office, 60 to 80 percent of the men do not wash their hands. I have noticed this. I have noticed this time and time again. Alan goes up to be Dillinger.

Dillinger says, hey, we're just closing down at all level seven access because we're just doing some, updates on master control. No evil here, nothing like that. Box lighter, let's say, oh, cool, I'm just doing this new security program that'll basically know what the fuck, it's called Tron, and it's going to know what Master Control's up to. He's like, sounds wonderful. See you later.

Oh, I'm not worried about that even a little bit. Right, because it's an independent security system that would operate outside of Master Control, which is the danger here in this system. By the way, here in this office, we get these engineers beaming an orange into the computer. Yes. Well, that's having a Laser Bay 2, which is a button you press in the elevator that says Laser Bay 2. I want to work at a place someday that's got a Laser Bay written on the elevator options.

Pretty sweet. Sorry, Laser Bay once closed. Somebody threw up yesterday. We're just, we're not going to get to it. I'm pretty confident that my dog Marty can definitely sense. like ghosts or, you know, spirits in the house or maybe it's someone stuck inside a video game system. But, you know, she's one of those pets. You ever have your pet just like stare at something that's not in the room and they seem very concerned? Uh, that's definitely what Marty's been up

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Bernard Hughes. I went to check and see, because that name's familiar. He's in the Lost Boys, very famously. He's the grandfather. That's what I He was the grandfather of lost boys. He was also the grandfather on Blossom. And here's another one. Literally just watch the tail end of this when we were over in Wales, funny enough.

At our hotel, he's one of the bigger priests in this is track two back in the house. Oh, nice. Don't forget, Doc Hollywood. Oh, which is the Michael Keaton or Michael J. Fox movie? Yes, we'll have to do Doc Hollywood one day.

Oh, my God. If anyone, that's the thing is, we could release a Doc Holleywood. Hollywood episode, and it would get negative down. I feel like no one's nobody knows. Nobody knows that movie. No, no no way. Nobody knows. These kids today don't, don't even watch Doc Hollywood

anymore. What the fuck's happening to this world? These delineal. No, listen, I'll say I've known what Doc Hollywood is for years, because of course everybody knows my history being a big back-to-the-future obsessive. I know a lot of Mike Fox's other movies. I've seen very few of them, including

Doc Hollywood. Well, I mean, have you seen the hard way. Have you done it? No. I don't even know what that is. That's that what that's Sutherland. Yeah. No, it's him and James Woods. Oh, even worse. It is fucking nasty shit. It's nasty stuff. I saw his his adaptation

of Bright Eyes Big City or Bright Lights Big City. Yes. Not bad. That's fine. That's a real. The book is better. You still know some stuff about him. That's the secret to your success. Oh, nice. I saw the film Life with Mikey. That's for sure. Anyway. So on Laser Bay 2, Lori and him are working on this thing that will digitize something. A laser will grab it. It'll go into the computer and then be reconstituted. I ain't eating this orange. Don't tell you that much. No, that's how you get fucking ball cancer immediately. Dude, you squeeze that fucker down. Have some nice refreshing OJ really quickly. Boom. Dude, ball cancer. Especially in 1982. Laser Bay Bay 2 is going to be like a nuclear reactor or something. Well, we pack the room with asbestos, you understand, to keep everybody nice and safe.

Best case scenario is your waist is just covered in hernia's. That's just it. After you eat that fucking orange. 50 at once somehow. But yeah, so we like see this experiment go down. It works successfully. And Alan goes down to complain about, you know, hey, our whole, you know, levels getting shut down or whatever. And there's an oddly prescient line in here, I have to say, it was really kind of took me back.

but they're talking about like the dangers of what they're doing or whatever and he says computers will start thinking and people will stop and I was like that's right grandpa from fucking lost boys that's exactly what's going on right now oh boy he grabs her

and then I believe the old guy goes to talk to Al to Dillinger again or Derringer again and that's Dillinger Dillinger sorry yeah they're fighting each other and he made and again I'm sorry

a little obi want Konobi is like he kicks him out he's like you can go back to the garage which I kind of like which is kind of fun all right that I love that whole exchange too

because it's like you could be fired old man type of vibe yeah and he's wearing a killer outfit this old guy in this one he's got this red flannel shirt with his cardigan going and the glasses

yeah he's looking pretty you're gonna steal this look dude I might dude that is a Halloween costume for my everyday entire yeah can I wear can I dress like a 68 year old

computer program in the 1980s. Couple important deets in the scene where Alan goes to see them in Laser Bay, too. Of course, one is Lars reveals that Flynn has been thinking about breaking into the system ever since they fired him. That's how we learned

that Flynn was fired from this company. And then there is this crazy line. We're talking about the access that Flynn has, the computer programs, this, that, and the other thing, to which Alan goes, yeah, and Flynn had access to you, too. Something you should not

say to your girlfriend, dude. This is a much longer conversation. We're not, you know what I mean? This is now, at best, it's a long conversation. It's probably a breakup depending on where the relationship is, but had access. That is great. I bring it up at this moment. Why?

Why would you do that? I mean, if you're dating inside an income or whatever it's called, you see, of course, you go for Flynn. And once that fizzles out and he's fired and he's gone, I mean, Mr. Bruce Box sure could find a. and he's a handsome man. He is a fucking guy. That's right.

They go to Flynn's and again it's like this thing where it's like oh man Flynn washed out. I don't think so. I'm like the thing went at the end of the movie when he's like CEO de facto because he won the Tron game

or whatever the fuck happens. I'm like that should be that's that's Reagan's America. He should be happy in his cool business drinking and smoke it and play in video. game. And make it an honest proff. Playing video games he invented that he gets no cut out.

Someone fucking stole from you. No way, dude. This guy invented five super popular games and he should be fucking swimming in pussy and sleeping on $100. He's already swimming in pussy because Jeff Britton. There's a line. It's already happening. No, but he's got his gold car. He's got his gold house

now. After all, that's happened. So he's fine. I think after that he's fine. But there's a line here once I go to Flynn's that. Kids put 8 million quarters in space paranoids. and I don't see a dime besides what I make here. I mean, eight million quarters is pretty good, but he should get a little more for inventing the game.

By the way, I love that there's some great exchanges here that contextualize the whole relationship between Alan, Flynn, and Laura. Alan says that Flynn was the best programmer N-Con ever saw, but he ends up playing space cowboy in some back room.

And Flynn's like, hey, does she still leave all of her clothes lying around the room? Yeah. Uh-huh. That is some line. That's a bold move. He also comes in because, like, he's playing video games in one shirt. He sets a world record.

Somebody's like, there's got to be a kill screen on space paranoids. Guys, kill screen. Hey, everybody, put down your beers. Gather around. There's going to be a kill screen. This is the most important moment of my month. Oh, God. We got to do that.

Watching someone else. Oh, yeah. No, we can't go past this. You can't go past this. This is it. This is the end of what is allowed in this game. Flynn should have invented Twitch. Hey, like and subscribe, please.

Yeah, now I'm going to put my camera on me for 10 hours while asleep. The digital frontier. I go to the bathroom once every five hours and it's terrible. So we're going to do a Pac-Man revenge. This was only available in Germany, actually. And we're going to be playing this for 24 hours straight. And thanks again for, buying me these cattier

headphones. Thanks for the tip. I look adorable in these catty or headphones. Meow, meow. Don't forget that Amazon wish list here in that digital frontier. Oh, absolutely. He sets the record, he goes upstairs, takes this, he has to get out of his video game

shirt and move into his hangout shirt, I guess. But also he's taking his shirt off, try to angle a threesome, I guess. Oh, yeah. No, he doesn't want fucking piss all to do with Alan. What are you kidding me? No, no, no, no. I could make Alan work. No, he's going to make Alan watch. That's what he's going to do. He's not working shit. Work that chair in the corner, motherfucker. You ever heard of a joystick, Alan? Well, you got one in between your legs. Why don't you play with that while I'm here? This is an accurate part

of the movie, though, Steve, video game champions and sweating, definitely. Good point. Excellent point. Let's sweat right through that shirt. But so he says, he tells him what's going on, right? And he's like, you know, I've been gathering evidence. I'm trying to find out, you know, proof. Like, where's the paper trail about the fact that I invented all these games and Dillinger stole the fucking files that proves that the slime didn't even change the name of the games, man?

I made space paranoids in a bunch of scraps. Yeah, first of all, he doesn't even change the name Space Paranoids, Matrix Blaster, these are not top of the line names to begin with. No, yeah. I don't want to pump nine quarters into Matrix Blaster. But Vice Squad,

I would put. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. He's still paying a monthly like what 500 bucks at least for a billboard with the space paranoid's fucking advertisement on top of the damn thing oh I bet you David Warner fucking put that there to stick it to him like oh look at my huge success

advertising above your bar I hope Flynn sees this you piece of shit he Flynn's like I can I'm such a great hacker get me into NCOM and I could forge us access and then we could I'll find the file

and we'll insert tron and everything we'll do all the things we want to do tonight and you got and the cool thing is you guys might lose your jobs but I'm already fired so it kind of doesn't matter so exactly you guys are gonna drive right cool awesome like you guys could get fired and as long as I get to take over the company at the end of this

I promise I'll give you your jobs back my favorite thing is that they're like okay there's a ban on all level seven holders that's it well what's the magic thing how are we gonna Well, we just forge a level six and not like to do the same thing. Yeah. The only thing, you get a special bathroom with seven, that's all.

The look in Alan's eye, like, that might work. Holy Jesus. Genius. We do cut back to Master Control and Dillinger a little bit. And we now, we set up the stakes of how Master Control and this whole shit is bad because Master Control is planning on hitting the Pentagon next week. Shouldn't be harder than any other big corporation. And he also good.

And like, what do you want with, depending on the same I wanted with the Kremlin? It's like, oh, he's doing all this stuff. Yes, it's sort of an AI cautionary tale back in 1982. Like, I'm bored with corporations. I want more access. Give me that Chinese language file I've been asking for. And Master Control black males Dillinger with the Flynn file here.

Yeah, it's wild. Also, he says that he's become 3,000 times smarter than when Dillinger created him. Yeah, just you got to burn the building down. You know what I mean? Prove it. Come back. Exactly. What are you talking to me about here?

I will prove it doing the smartest thing in the world, chess. I love the shots here of Bridges. Really doing like a very cartoonish Scooby-Doo. We're sneaking around the control room. He's taken some big strides with his legs and he's kind of like angling his shoulders backwards. He looks totally ridiculous. And I think it's like, he's trying to. like do this serious break in thing but also still trying to like make laura like laugh or whatever

and still like flirt with her so he's being goofy while we're doing corporate espionage here i love it yes and also quick in allen's cubicle we got like a clatu barata nicto banner we're getting a little nod to the day of the earth stood still here oh i thought you're casting a spell although you just unleashed a demon i was trying to pick up the necronomicon i see clatu varatu good it's all settled so yeah I do love you said it already Eric

but I do love that and get me that Chinese language file I asked for like the fact that the computer kind of has like an after they're like oh wait a minute where those pictures I was supposed to see

can't go from an up tempo number talk about a fucking dog dying but he's we get a lot of so yeah she's like I'm going to go I'm going to leave, me and Alan are going to leave the movie, Jeff Bridges. You go downstairs and you enter the movie. He's like, cool, got it.

Oh, the movie's this way? I take those stairs down to the movie. Got it. Okay. You're leaving me with scraps. You can't use the computer bay directly in Laser Bay, too, right by the gun pointing at your back. I would move the gun no matter. It would make me a little nervous no matter what, Laser Bay, why.

Dude, never turn your back on an AI. They will, of course, shoot you in the back. matter of $80 or no. We're doing a little 2001 here. I'm afraid I can't let that happen. You know, a little little hal-esque. Very much, yeah. Very hal-esque.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, shot in the back with this laser. And, man, I do love... It's a cool effect. These effects are fucking awesome. Ham, like, getting sniped by bit by bit. Like a grid pattern of beaming him in. It's very cool.

It all looks, like, it just looks cool as fuck. and like the new like 4K scan of it that you can stream or like there's I think they put out some some 4K discs of it here and there um it looks awesome like this still looks totally awesome the animation looks great and this whole sequence man like yeah you want to talk about like why do people watch this movie when they're high it's especially for the in and out sequences we have in this film that's the coolest part when you go in and it's you know it also remind me of the matrix when you go in like into the number when oh yeah it's similar and but this is very cool It's very trapper keeper.

I mean, Trapperkeeper coated vapor wave, obviously, is very influenced by this. I felt like I should be watching like a six-hour loop of this on YouTube. You know what I mean? But he gets into the world or whatever. I love like he's immediately just getting like bullied by these royal guards because he doesn't know like what the hell happened to him.

So here's some other guys, these big fat guys, the security guys, they're huge dudes in this universe. They start like pushing them like, get a move on here. You know, you can't be standing around. And, like, you realize, like, now you're on, like, the streets of the computer world. And it's, of course, very fascistic and whatnot. And they're huge. The idea is he tells, was it scar or scrah?

What's it again? Sark, I are you talking about? Sark, yes. David, David Warner. Computer David Warner. He tells, mass controls, tells Sark that he wants Flynn to die. He's a user that has been digitized. like it's kind of great he's like he's given sark the one for us like he bothered me in the real

world baby and if anyone messes with me they come in here and i'm like whoa dude yeah big dick in this computer i love it uh it's kind of awesome though because when master control reveals that really isn't a program he's a user he pushed me in the real world then you have sark like the program who's going to have to you know compete against him or whatever and like he starts getting shit scared right and he's like gulp but they wrote us, you know what I mean? He's already like, wait, how did this? Excuse me, Master Control. How the fuck

did this happen? What's going on out there that you haven't been telling us about? Do I have to fight a god? Do I have to do sports? I can't do sports. I'm not good at Frisbee. No, I'm awful at Frisbee. What I also want is the scene when they get the orange is the orange has a little

helmet on and they're like, get to the games Orange. That's it at you Orange. Dude, when he moves, they just make little Pac-Man noises. but that's the thing is it a it's a representation of an orange so it's not even orange it's range yes it's wrench

yes it's red that's a philosophical question there Chris whatever I'm eating that fucking steak with Cypher I don't give a shit every day give me that big juicy ass computer steak and you're getting to sit down and dine with the one and only Joey pants

absolutely by the way speaking of Pac-Man Pac-Man has a cameo on Sark's screen at one point in the movie I think about an hour in or so. Which I love because it's like you are, you know, you're the fucking leader of the baddies here. You're trying to like operate this mission to destroy these people. But at the same time,

you can't help to play some games on your phone while you're at work. Like this guy's just double-tasking. To Steve's point, like Sark is sort of on the bridge of a star destroyer of some kind. Very much so, yeah. And then these guys are Stormtrooper coded. You know, and again, sure. Yeah. I'm not throwing rocks at it.

It's just it's a post-Star Wars movie that is very much a post-Star Wars movie. Exactly. No, and I was just saying like at the time, like watching the movie, I just literally did not think about Star Wars one. And I feel like that's just how into this, because I was like surprised how into it I got like right away. Again, watching shit when you're sober sometimes. The whole new look. But I was like, this is actually way more interesting of a movie than I gave it credit for, I think is the idea. So we get to this first like gladiatorial thing. He does meet the guys. So we meet Ram and we meet Tron here in this moment. And, you know, Sark's sort of doing this announcement to all these new warriors, right? And he's like, hey, if you do a fealty pledge and, you know, praise the warrior, you can become the warrior elite of the master control program. You just have to renounce the user. But if you refuse to renounce the user, you will be subject to immediately derelution, aka deletion, aka execution is the idea. And he's also like, this is your frisbee. you will not be given another

which is the idea is like it's your identity disc and it gives you all these abilities and everything you do will be recorded on it's like if you lose it's just like I swear we've talked and I'm not we are not replacing these are very expensive

it's a very big burden on us you lose that frisbee I'm not kidding de-resolution you'll get that's de-resolution I will turn you into a frisbee if you lose this frisbee you will be turned into a frisbee It's also kind of a USB drive.

I don't quite understand it myself. I'm still working on it. You left your identity disc on the bus. You've got to be kidding me. No, we're not. I'm not going to call the bus company. We have buses? How did that happen?

One of those tanks chasing down a bus. Hey, pull over. Stop. Miss Hoover, my information disc went in my mouth and I sort of ate it. Put your head down while everyone else is learning. but this yeah ram is the guy who so you know bridges is like what are you in for man and he's like oh i used to be a program for actuaries you know accounting stuff so that makes me totally fine to be in this gladiatorial arena here so you realize like this is the detail of okay it's not just

like games and whatever yeah he's pulling quick books he's pulling you know list making programs whatever it is. Ram is the other guy, I think. Oh, maybe. Yeah. The heavier dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's dead meat is what we call him. Yeah. Ram is played by Dan Shore. Anyone noticed where this guy was from?

No. He's Billy the Kid from Bill and Ted. Yeah. And not much else. Tron Legacy. Yeah, there you guys. Yeah, there you guys. Yeah, that's right. I was looking at that earlier. Yeah, hell yeah. Billy the kid in that movie. So Flynn

gets his first match and Master Control is like, no, no, no, no, he's not going to go up against one of our red guys. I want him to go up against one of his own kind. And this game that they have to play this first round, it's basically them just playing High Eli.

They may as well be in fucking Florida in the 1970s playing High Eli, dude. Dude, it's awesome. You know, both versions. Like, you know, Florida and this on the digital frontier. It's such a cool effect when the ball hits

and eliminates like the circles on the ground so you lose space of where you can actually be you're going to die. The platform is made of concentric circles. Exactly. Yeah. No, it's awesome. And then, you know, so they have some high ally matches. I mean, they got, they look like the whisker

wicker high ally mallets here, whatever basket mallets. But so they're playing and Bridges of course, you know, he's fucking Flynn man. I got the kill screen. Not more than 24 hours ago. He's really good and he fucking beats this dude and the guy's like hanging off the thing

holding on and Flynn refuses to kill him. Finish the game. Kill him. And then Sark just kills the dude off anyway, which is kind of funny. He makes the platform disappear and this dude just falls. And then he's debating about doing it with Flynn as well and then

Master Control's like, no stop. I want him in the games. He dies playing. He remembers it because he's reminding the audience. of what the stakes are. He's like, remember, come on, come on. He has to die legal. Yes, to die legal.

I don't want anyone, I don't want anyone nosing around. So after the win, he meets Alan. This is, well, he meets Tron. He's like, how did you hear that name before? Alan is the name of my user. My user wants me to go after the MCP. And the Bridges is just like, I know, we're in a plan on together. I mean, I know.

Cool, yeah. You're the name of the movie, man. You're the name of the fucking movie. Wow. Wow, I met the titular warrior. Wait a second. Where's my friend Orange? Where is he?

There he goes. It's like an orange and a little Trond helmet with a little bit of a little Togo. Oh, hello, Reg. How are you today? I love how fast this movie does get going because they immediately just break out of here on these light cycles and they're being chased by recognizers. And it's great.

At the end, we pretty much do more because when you meet Tron or I think it's a very cool line where like Tron is doing the thing which he does at the end with the Frisbee and it's like, that's Tron, he fights for the user. I kind of want the end

because when we meet David Warner, he's doing the light cycle. I need the ending to be a light cycle race. I'm sorry, it just needs to, that's, that's fix. It's a lot cleaner and it's cooler because it's the coolest thing in the movie. And after this big light cycle sequence,

you don't see it again. I feel like I haven't seen it in a while. I should watch it very soon, maybe tonight. But I think in Tron Legacy, there is a moment where Tron does the light cycle and comes back to the good side and it's like a race to the end of the movie

with a light cycle. So check out that movie. I was about to say if you wanted like a more at the end of the movie light cycle race, I do think, yeah, legacy is sort of structured that way. This one's really cool when when, but again, there's another

Star Wars thing. We got blue leader, blue two, blue three. Come on, folks. Come on, folks. Well, this is, you know, that's not red. So it's fine. But yeah, so Flynn, I love this. He fucking pushes this dude. Yes. Right off

the fucking game board. He smashes through this wall, Truman show style. And then he's like helping the rest of the cyclers get out of the and in comes Sark and his fucking recognizers to you know the recognizers come in this is where at the same time this is the stakes like this is all going on you've had to send a fleet of recognizers to make sure these guys don't jailbreak your system

and get out of here and you're playing Pac-Man at the same time David Warner come on dude he's like he's a cop here right he's the cop of the computer so he's got some candy crush on the subway platform I'm on a fifth level of candy crush you can That's stop me now. I'm nearly beaten it. I'll tell you what. Could not believe it. So yet, what's today?

Monday? Yesterday I went to the movies, finally got that conjuring last rights in. And I'm coming out to go to the, you know, back on the subway. And there's literally, I count them.

There's a row of five cops in the station. Cell phone, cell phone, cell phone, cell phone, cell phone. I was like, what is anyone doing right now? Yeah, exactly. And the news is like, how did Luigi get out of? Manhattan. Anyone's to get out.

Someone was about to hit a fucking video game kill screen as a matter of effect. They're all playing Royal Match because they were sold on it by LeBron James and I don't even know who else. Dude, the fucking Illuminati's advertising that every night on my television. What is the money behind Royal

Match? Follow the money. It's a nefarious fucking thing, dude, because now you got celebrities telling me to ruin my phone? I don't think so. Well, you know what? Just follow it. I'm going to tell you where it goes. It probably goes direct to the Royal family. I bet you they got it. Probably, yes.

They probably are behind it all. They leased it out. We know this. Like, just every celebrity does those commercials. Like, how could you afford all of these people? Because it's all the in-app purchases, dude. So they escape.

Some of the rest of the cycles disappear and it's Tron, Ram, and Flynn all make it out or whatever. And this is like, we got to climb up. I love they climb up to the solid vantage point here and they can see you know, the master communicator tower. master controller tower and everything

and Tron is like hey actually so my thing says I need to get to the input output tower so I can communicate with Alan and let them know what's going on so this is like the journey we have to cross the computer city here to get to these various towers and

before we drink computer water the computer water what is the computer water ladies gentlemen what are we talking about what it gives the oh this power is so good it looks it looks fucking cool it looks cool yes there it is

quick question to these things pee they have to if they're drinking this much water that's fair I would like to see digital piss

little like pixel yellow pixels hit in the ground that's what that game tapper was right yeah yeah I don't know

it's it is weird like is here is the questions I had like is that actually water yeah do they urinate and also is this connected

to Star Wars in any way That was the other thing I didn't know. No, but I, like, I don't, it says it's like pure power. Uh-huh. And that's, that is that vague power. You know what I mean? That should come back if it's something.

You should be like, oh, hey, Trod, drink this water before your match. I got extra power water for you. Yeah, I mean, when you start fleshing this out too much, you're going to, it's all going to fall apart. So it's just like their computers. So it's like, let's say it's electricity water. It's like, uh, let's get wet. drinking it is like the equivalent of like your computer tower's fan coming on

you know what I see it cools everything down you know sort of recharges the computer a little bit but it does look cool regardless of how dumb it might be them drinking black and white water out of their hands like it looks so awesome but I love like they've got like

Ram has his frisbee and he's like he's showing bridges right he's like no look you put the frisbee in the water and then drink out of it. Bridges like, wow, how'd you come up with an idea like that? You're misusing your identity disc, I swear to God, if you get that wet. But that's great. It's like evolution, right?

It's like monkeys learning how to use tools. Right. Yeah, it's interesting. Your identity disc is not a dinner plate. It's a gravy on your identity disc. Really? Bash potatoes. Stop knowing on it

Stop doing that with your nails Ah yes We have brought a new partner in from the outside Please welcome Ashed Otato's Hold on, hold on Is that a Blink 182 sticker On your identity disc

I am revoking it That's it I'm revoking all identity disks I'm going to take that sticker of a rabbit Making a funny face and shove it up your ass there will be no enema of the state in this house. Does your identity disk have a P symbol and written born to kill? What does that even mean? Okay, that is a very cool S that you've sketched on your identity disk.

However, it is inappropriate. Wow, that inappropriate S is totally in 3D. Drew a lot of those back in the day, not paying attention during school. that's what it's for so they get back on the they're on the light cycles and they're pursued by these tanks one of these tanks shoots two of them off

Flynn and Ram Tron escapes I mean it's just such cool effects I just love the way this looks I love also that even in this computer world where you're like tracking everything and whatever

the proof of your death can be fucked up because they're like oh yeah they're uh Tron and Flynn or Ram and Flynn definitely D-RES. Don't worry about it anymore David Warner. But they're totally

alive and survived the crash. So it's like your little system didn't have any blinky boo-boos. The Flynn's alive. Their sensors didn't pick it up. Well, but when you just want to hear good news when you only want to hear the thing you want to hear inevitably

you're going to get false information. It just asks that way. A bunch of yes man, dude. But you yes, man. This is a weird part of the movie where this happens a few times when we have done a big sequence of some kind. The transition is at least four times in this movie a commercial fade to black. Yes. Like we're already anticipating the TV broadcast. But the one that's the weirdest is right here where the movie literally takes a nap because like Ram is knocked unconscious and Flynn saves him.

And he drags him off to like this little hidden away corner and he's just like, oh, Oh, yeah, I got to find a place where Ram can just rest for a little bit and they just lay down and fall asleep and it cuts to black. This is something where you would probably want and maybe there was in another draft. Just go back to the real world for a second

where maybe Alan and Laura like, where's Flynn? You know what I mean? Something that kind of could give some tension back at the real world back and forth. Because eventually we do get a program that looks like Laura Yori and maybe would make sense for her to dock in or, I don't know.

Yeah. Oh, like, let me get in there or whatever. Sure, yeah. But this is when we get Ram and Flynn commandeer, a broken recognizer, and that's fun to see it being reconstructed. A little leg falls off of it. He realizes

he's Neo at this point. You know, for our younger audience, people under 60. He basically can do what he wants in this world and reconstruct. He's a programmer. He's a user. He has superpowers. Ram and Ram even has the line, you shouldn't be able to do that you know much like will smith and i d4 uh he sees something he likes and i

got to have me one of you know got to get me one of those ah yes he just doesn't get to got to do it he just gets up there and he immediately starts driving this thing pretty perfectly but you know andrew you're saying like ram was like are you a user yeah and this is sort of ram's death scene because he's slowly dying here and uh i love the how he dissipates the de-reszing look yes it's it's pretty cool when someone dies out. I will say better than Star Wars. I would like a nice disintegration instead of I just turned invisible

and my clothes fell on the floor. So I'll give that one. That's fair. Point to try it's okay. He got raptured. Ben Kenobi got raptured. Yeah. I also love like Ram's like oh my God, you're a user. And Jeffers

like yeah man, but I can't tell you there's like an afterlife or nothing. I don't know. You're just You're going to die in the cold ground. You're going to the big wastebasket in the sky, buddy. Hopefully somebody caches you out or you're just going to get deleted forever. It might be pixelated. I don't know. I have no idea.

But so then, again, speaking, this is very much like a bridge of some sort of Star Destroyers type thing, right? We break into this control room. Now we're following Tron for a little bit. And Tron finds Yori. This is the avatar. of Laura and it's a weird like they're dating on the outside so I guess the avatars also

have a relationship together why not you know why not dating on the outside fucking in the inside well they're having cyber sex they're having cyber sex with each other you understand that does sound like a nine inch nails chorus though

that's not that's not far off I want to date you from the outside from the inside I'm so stoked for that soundtrack It's going to be a cool one From what I've heard off it anyway I lost my I did to do no

Don't know No I don't know where it went Had like a hole Because I just got de-resed Oh man So yeah You know she's like kind of flirting with them here Like oh they haven't built a circuit

That could hold you You know and he's like Listen, we got to get the fuck out of here. No time to explain, but we need to start thinking about an exit strategy here. Yes. And then this is where, Eric, I think you mentioned Clippy earlier. We have Jeff Bridges with a little bit of a Clippy situation. He's driving this thing and it's falling apart.

He's having a hard time kind of controlling it. He makes mention of it's harder to drive in town, he says, where he's like, you know, I guess back in the city or whatever. And he's like, this little thing pops up, like this little ball or whatever. Yeah, he's like, you're a bit, aren't you? You can only talk and yeses and knows, positives and negatives. And like, it is just Microsoft clip. Do you need some help driving this big regulator? It's also a big eyes.

Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, give it big cartoon, Googly eyes. You know what it kind of reminded me of is the steel owl and clash the Titans for whatever reason. Oh, yeah, totally. It's like a little guide guy. Or because everybody loves me so much, aren't too fucking Dito. He beeps and boobs and you're like, oh, we are.

in trouble little beef poop. Yeah, you're right. If R2D2 was that little training robot he does with the life. Yes, it is the shape of that little training guy. You're totally right. I'm sure if you asked George Lucas about Tron and he'd have some choice where, yeah, those fucking guys for me. Well, that dude needs to calm down. I got pretty high. It was really cool. I was stripping balls. It was amazing. I saw a lot of that before. Technically, I have sued them. I

I don't know. I don't know what the legal system would say about it, but on paper, I have sued them successfully. I've done it. But I never got sued by any of the Japanese guys I ripped off. Whatever. No. They could never find me. That was a different country. Furosawa doesn't want this smoke. He knows what. He knows that. I got to rip off the hidden fortress, hidden. I got a hidden my hidden fortress. so I don't get sued. Hopefully that Roddenberry doesn't get up my ass, man.

I don't know. That could get pretty dicey. I will fight that man with my fists. I will fight him with my fists. Frank Herbert? Yeah, that guy would have a case. I'm hiding away. It's not a, it's not a phaser.

It's a blaster. So it's sort of different. Seven samurai. How about seven lawyers I have on my side? Hey, hey, Frank Herbert. If you want to fucking chew my ear, off about saying spice take it up with columbus okay that's what that guy was babe

I love when he crashes bridges crashes the recognizer and he gets out of it and it's just this like weird NPC town where the people are like different colors than our red and blue programs fight each other there seem to be sex workers and monks around for some reason like just only sex workers and monks is that I used to do. Oldest professions.

I mean, think about who uses the internet the most. Rags. Racists. Well, they fall under monks. The lonely. Yes. I mean, sex stuff and religious fucking insanity. That's true. Well, that's

true. Yeah. But it's weird because like you get like these like half conversations are just like little drips and drabs about and it is just like it may as well be Sims like myr-r-r-er- You know what I mean? Because it is just like, it's like nothing language, which is really funny.

There's a weird thing around here too where another like Red Guard comes out and starts like giving Flynn the hassle a little bit. And he beats this dude down and like touches him to steal his soul basically. Yeah, this is some Shang Suu shit right here. Oh my God, I got all that guy's memories and hopes and dreams. This is amazing. Wow, he had problems Oh, bank code, thank you That guy's father was aggressive

There's one part So we got like Tron and Yori are trying to escape And they're making their way out Climbing like a big scaffolding To get to this communication tower or whatever Sean Tron like shoots this one guy Did you see this one where like The guy's body starts flipping around

but the eyeballs stay perfectly straight like just looking at the camera oh no I miss that it's a chilling effect like you shoot some dude I don't know if it's like one of the NPC guys or a red officer guard or whatever but the body starts like flipping kind of like a hurricane like a vertical

you know twirling but the eyeballs are just looking at you dead on not moving some real judge and Roger rabbit shit super scary I have to say but they're like they do this cool like slide down into like this infrastructure. I always love a good big slide

and an actor like actually going down the big slide. It was like a lot of fun. It looks pretty cool. But this is where they meet Dumont as the Guardian and this is the same actor that played to Dr. Gibbs here. These guys penis hat on. Big time. He's like stuck in the floor

for some reason. I was like, can this guy walk? He's like, I'm here and I just move my arms around. Holy fucking shit. Do you have legs? dude what's your deal here like some of the freaks in uh what is it return to oz yes like that movie the city no who directed that movie returned not city lament no he did he did the whiz

oh that's right yeah the whiz yeah um but this is it's just i don't know it's fucking terrifying it's really weird and when he walks around and I'm like oh thank god so basically i'm just stuck in the yeah i just fell and they just built everything around me i guess imagine the computer version of the fat vampire from blade that's exactly yeah kind of what we're dealing with here if that was and you know what he's shaped like i don't think we maybe we had them we must have had them in some

form you know he's shaped like that he does look like a little computer mouse that you would put oh yeah yeah i can see that yeah and basically he's he's against him at first but then like he's like no i'm i fight for the you like he convinces him and there's a lot of like space mysticism stuff here to get to the up world or what he would call it. We're told that Dumont the Guardian is the only one that can create the link

to the outside world and he's like, look man, like I'm on a mission for my user. I got to fucking call in. He's going to think we're dead or whatever. And so then it cuts to Sark and they're like, oh hey Mr. Sark like the Guardian's helping them and David Warner's like, oh so he

thinks. It's a great it's a great David Warner delivery of oh so he And I think by this time Flynn knocks out a red guard and touches him and he becomes red, so he's like in disguise. That's what I was talking about with the Shangsoon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. But I forgot what the purpose was though, but you're right. It's so he can hide as a red, a red guardian kind of guy. It's sort of like putting on a storm trooper outfit. Oh, I was, oh, I was in my note. I didn't want to say it. I was yelling at me every time I say it. No, no, no, go ahead. But I also did this movie, I think that definitely was influenced by this movie, Mega Man for sure. I mean, the out is pure Mega Man. Yeah, you're not just thinking up a cool helmet like that. You saw Tron. That is the only thing.

The only positive thing I'm taking away from the fact that the Super Mario Brothers movie is such a big deal. Maybe I'm getting my Mega Man. Maybe it's happening. Oh, that'd be something, huh? That would make me very happy. Now, here's a question, though, which way would you want it to go? Because the Mario movie, yes, super successful, animated. I still think it's a beautifully animated movie.

Now this Legend of Zelda movie, though, this is some live action shit, man. So which way do you want your Mega Man to go? That's the thing is I would have to see what Legend of Zelda looks like whenever we get to it. And then I would have to make a decision after that. I would think because of just the way, like the density of the design in that thing, it kind of has to be animated, I think.

I think so too. I would agree. That would be my thinking. So how about Chris Pratt as voicing Megammit? God damn it. No. No. I don't know who said it for Mega Man, but we've said it for a long time. Dr. Wiley has to be Paul Giamatti. Has to be. I will not listen.

I will not hear any other fucking, no, it's just him. Oh, my, my second. Oh, please. No, I just remembered, we actually have already seen how badly a live action Mega Man could look because isn't that what happens to what's his name at the end of that Transformers Animal movie? Oh, right. Yes, Anthony Ramos.

Oh, yes. The Feast of the Beasts or whatever it was called. I think that's what it was called. coming this Thanksgiving. Sitting down with my extended family, I'll tell you what, that's sort of a feast of the beast. My other must for the Mega Man movie,

animated or live action, whenever Mega Man kills one of his rivals and takes their abilities, it has to be extremely painful for them. You know what I mean? It's in the video game and they just go, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. No, I would, yeah, oh, God, why?

When Woodman explodes, I want to see him cry. I want to see him. Yeah. Topman better be in tears. Fucking tornado man crying to mommy. Don't worry about it. But also,

when Mega Man then absorbs the power, it needs to be like a quickening. You need to make that big of a deal out of it every single time. I think we got something here. I'm just saying, I think we got something here. Beginning of Save it, Private Ryan.

That's what I'm saying. Those see, that limbs. Take each death of that, that is what top. man that is fireman that is ice man that is how they go out screaming uh so the whole deal here is like all right i have all this information on my disc that i have to like get out into the real world and the way he does this is i mean it's on every single tron poster i think but be holding the

disc up to the light you know and the disc goes up or whatever and alan you hear like the voice of allan right here and he's like telling tron you know you got to take you know thanks for the info you got to take this disc you got to put it into the database of the master control guy to just that will destroy it so you got to drop your one ring i mean your frisbee with information on it into the mountain i mean magic control guy to destroy it and a very greek uh reference of like some of them are wearing to when you go into the game you're wearing togas for a while like the frisbee is you know the discus kind of a thing gladiatorial game oh sure die and kind of a deal. Yeah. So then they have to get on this big transport beam ship thing because they have to go across the game

sea, we are told, to get back to the central computer or whatever. And this whole sequence is pretty sweet. Like the big, you know, inside the computer Star Destroyers coming at them right here because Sark has, you know, set this whole trap up or whatever.

You've got some sales on this thing, which are pretty cool looking. Yeah, I like cool, like, cool space sales are always kind of neat. This is what they meet back up with Flynn and like, you know, basically, he's like, oh, but this is my sexy girlfriend. This is my sexy friend.

She's like, he's sexy. Where's this guy to go? Yeah, I do like this. Knife in the water. I'm not really, I'm prescribing to this Star Wars ripoff theory in a lot of ways now. Because when the master computer tells, like the master computer is threatening Sark

like Vader to an imperial. or whatever. How would you like working in a pocket calculator? Was a good line? That's a pretty cool one. Would you like to be part of the Texas Instruments family?

Honestly, either that or... It's not the Silicon Prairie. I mean, I guess it would be boring, but it's better than working a job where you're going to murder me if I can't find some fucking beep in a boop. You know, just murder me.

It's fine. That's also a good point. Flynn, there's a cool moment here where Flynn like almost falls off the ship and Tron catches him because at first he tries to kill him thinking that Flynn's just another red gun. He's like, no, it's me, look. And he pulls him up and when he pulls him back up, he turns back blue, which I just thought was kind of. And he does this thing, there's like

this thing where you're on a beam and you can't go off that beam but Jeff Bridges with his programming powers creates a junction and, you know, it's all cool. Yeah, and he also tells Tron about how. ram passed away or whatever also this great line. Do you have any family or anything?

It's like doing what you're told is what most, maybe it's Tron says this like doing what you're told is what programs have to do or whatever and this great retort from Flynn of like hate to break it to you. That's what most users do too. You kind to just pretend like you're

doing what you're supposed to be doing. I left his body in that broken down recognizer. I just think anybody would care. oh he's long been scrubbed from the system oh sorry ram but yeah so it's a very cool idea about like again like if we're gods we don't know shit

right why would you think somebody above you would know all the answers exactly like our god is also just like I don't I just showed up too you know I don't know what the fuck this shit I came in the water and monkeys popped out and after that they started doing whatever else they did

I don't know then I fucking fell asleep for 10,000 years what do you want from me the fuck's a computer wow they did that hey oh well you got your own monkeys all right okay the world just full of wonders isn't it I thought it was just going to be this big water planet all of a sudden there's all this shit now they're running out of water it doesn't make any goddamn sense well they really blew it and you're coming in the water unbelievable but yeah so you know the recognizers here giving chase there's also these are dropped there is like one shot of whatever these like little green bug guys are yes

dude that's like david wanted is like go now recognizers and thing that looks like the mantis from space coast coast coast to coast get them zorak there we go thank you i think this movie i think rightfully uh it's the right move is less concerned with story and more concerned with the vision you know what i mean it's like it doesn't matter yes what these things are they look cool and they're gonna get them and they're like oh no we're gonna get caught by them you know what I mean? There's a better way to do it I think thematically and story-wise but I would prefer the

this than that. I'll tell you it's similar with the with legacy is the visuals take precedence over it's a very simple story but also it makes no sense. Dude I hope that's the thing with this new one too I don't give a shit about just

give me those visuals give me the music let me vibe. No if we're talking about the fucking trauma that Flynn has experienced by living inside the game for all these decades now. Like, I will leave the fucking theater. I don't give a shit. Like, here's the thing.

Like, this is the fucking definition, the dictionary definition of a spectacle movie. They literally made it around the idea of the special effects. So, like, nothing else matters really. Really, you know what I mean? But we're making

movies in 2025 now. And sometimes that's a bad idea. And if it is, like, Jared let him, being like jeez jeff bridges i'm so sorry the mental anguish you have experienced by being inside the tron world since 1982 i will leave the fucking it's just overriding characters you are already working in a little bit of a negative nine inch nails and the visuals are doing a lot of work but you're already working in the net of because i have to watch jared leto for two hours

you are you are doing that to me and you're asking a lot there i got i sincerely hope it's like more of a balance at least like you know maybe she doesn't have more singular scenes than him but maybe gretta lee is at least in a lot of scenes with jared leto that would be great that would be fantastic maybe there's a chance he was so difficult to work with who have that helmet on for most of me oh there i i only asked to be carried in a paliquin twice okay that was it i only did it twice uh so the the ship eventually gets like scooped up by the baddies and the ship's like cut in half it's pretty cool uh tron presumed at this point. Again, nobody's looking at the

beep loop indicator. Like, I feel like there has to be something in that control room that is still lit up, that David Warner can look at it and be like, no, Tron is not dead. I can't tell if they've died unless they play a game first. And David Warner's like, yes, I'm bringing all these old men to their doom

and you will stay in this ship. And eventually this ship will just disappear because I said it to three days. It'll die. It'll be erased in three days. even my user is putting all of his time into this he's supposed to be helping some stupid couple who thinks they have the devil as his son he's putting all of his work

into this now so let's do it team I do like this though the master control is putting a bunch of old programs in like a mass deletion centrifuge kind of thing and then yeah he's also like by the way David Warner says rather Sark he's like when I leave this ship

it's like you put a fucking dead man switch on it he's like when I leave this ship once my little red feet scurry off this ship it's just going to start automatically de-resing itself basically like a self-destruct mechanism it's pretty cool and also during this he's also been torturing

Dumont you get to see him you get to see flashes of his skeleton inside of him dude it is it's not quite the great torture scene from on deadly ground but I was laughing almost as hard because he's also doesn't sort of make a ton of sense.

I'm like, why is this even happening? Why can they feel pain in the first place? Yeah, it's a great point. Seeing an old man being tortured looks cool. It does. And I like it. It's a vibe. You might have something to there. I'm going to give you more power water

until you piss your pants. Oh, power water. I think that's what they sell it like the bodega now. Raspberry, red. I got this one from lethal weapon. Ellis.

So, you know, they kind of, he's like, kind of, Tron rather is like carefully climbing along the side of this thing. Pretty cool,

like, you know, if it was like an old adventure picture, it's them climbing across like the side of a train or something like that.

So he's doing it here. And I, this is where I noticed, I'm looking at Bruce Boxlightner's ass in this unitart. And I was like, the asses in this movie, it's like 99% fantastic.

Oh, my God. Like real good looking stuff in these gorgeous tushies. Fantastic. Everywhere you. look he can't even David Warner's looking all right and then this is where we get what Tron facing off with David Warner which is gray

I don't know how you survived slave doesn't matter prepare to terminate yes he's Tron is this big or untron the master control is this big centrifuge thing looks like the Kool-Aid man he looks like the Kool-Aid man

it's a bunch of old people on that ride from the fair from the amusement park where you get stuck to the wall Oh, yeah, the centrithical Force machine. Also, it's a centrifuge, right?

Often, I think they'll call him like the warhing machine or something, you know, one of those kind of... It was reminded me of Zardoodles from the Power Rangers a little bit. Yeah, a little bit Zordon-esque. Rangers, I fight for the user. I believe South Park used this design, the master control design for...

Yes, what was that? I think it was for God, for Yahweh for something. And because I hadn't seen Tron as a kid I didn't know what that reference was They do like the way they do like the superheroes As like the super friends They do that with gods It's a bunch of different gods and he's one of them

Yes exactly I think that's it Jubilee is the episode He's a giant glowing cradle He looks exactly like the dude from Tron Oh that's pretty funny So yeah Kool-Aid man's here And he's like oh Tron all right like yeah you thought you defeated sark

but what about if I gave him this magic mushroom and then we get fucking gigantic sark pretty cool Sark gets his head split open Oh I forgot about that And all this candy crush comes out of his brain It's so awesome And apparently the director said this is why they got the PG rating

I guess he made a joking remark But he was like yeah once brains fall out That's a PG Be great of a New York City cop just went to David his brains in this movie, put it into his phone. Oh, cool, this is giving it the next level. Wow, watermelons. Neat.

No, Silvio, this is a ruby. Yeah, MCP revives him and makes him a giant. Like, all my functions are yours. Oh, my God, a giant David Warner. All my dreams are coming true. Said one person in 1928. No, Rodrigo, let's tip him over, hang him upside down, and shake out the wrist of whatever is in his brain.

I gotta say Take your little information disc And flip it up on his big dick See what happens Exactly I was gonna say Yeah I was gonna say

Eventually he does lose The Frisbee fight This is what happens With his head Getting split open Yeah it's awesome Crush me David Warner And talk about

Ninja Turtles too This is I think The It's a real Unearned part of this movie It's a real like Why did you even bother Nobody gives a shit

But Flynn is like, okay, you know, now I got to kind of take it from here or whatever, I'm going to do the big heroic thing, but before I do that, Yuri, I'm just going to give you a big kiss real quick. And even she is like, what the fuck?

Exactly. It just doesn't. I'm sitting there like, what the why? I don't want that. I imagine another draft of it had more romance or something and it made more sense. And you know what I mean? But he's moving in on this fucking computer programs lady, man. He basically

cocked Alan in the real world. Now he's to tuck his program in the computer. This guy's unbelievable. Like a kind of reverse Casablanca kind of situation. Oh, yeah, I tried one of those ones. Yeah, I'm going to become Freddie Kruger and cook you in your dreams too, pal. You got nowhere to escape from me and my big dick. You can't even get laid in your sleep.

What? Look out on that reverse Casablanca. You might pull something. So Flynn jumps in this thing and he stops. long enough, like the rotation stops that Tron can then get in there and they destroy the contraption, you know, whatever. The whole thing sort of falls down.

The narrow area makes the whole thing. Yeah. Sark, by the way, Sark going totally gray and just dying. Yes. Awesome. So cool watching him to slowly collapse like that. And it's kind of a thing that like, I think video games later on, you know,

of course, like game developers that had seen Tron and grew up loving it or whatever. I mean, so much of the time when you'd like defeat a bad guy, especially in those early, you know, console games, they would just like kind of turn gray or like an off color and fall down dead. So I feel that that was even maybe

influencing like future games and shit with like how it looks when you defeat a villain. Yes, for sure. But we see the master control, the tower like explodes or whatever and all the blue color starts permeating the city. You see all the red lights going out and all the red lines are turning blue

and everything like that. Kind of like if like one subway line's taken over the stops of another subway line on the weekend. And you're trying to see how that looks on the map. Oh, the A actually runs on the F line this weekend. Got it. That's kind of what's going on here. Flynn gets thrown back up and gets recubed.

Yes. We get some like kaleidoscope vision here, which is very cool. Very cool. I think the trip out, I think is trippier than the trip in. It's a very cool thing. Absolutely. The computer just automatically starts printing the evidence that he created Space Paranoids. Here's your ending.

Yeah, here's a, I also love like, go to anyone. Oh, it's a printout. I got it. No, it's a, did you write this? No, no, the computer wrote this. It's okay. Are you sure you didn't just type? No, no.

It is like so eager to get to the credits, which I'm not going to fault it for, 96 minutes. God bless America. But I need a little more. There is, because what, like, the other part of it is like, Alan now also has, that information, I think. Like, that's what Tron was doing, transferring an opera, right.

And so, like, it is, it's all there. Master control gets to David Warner in the real world. Yes. It gives him that message with the end of line.

And he sits down to feed it. Which I like. I mean, that's how, that's how corporate people are when they're defeated. They're, they're like, eh.

Got no, you know, 29 year old minimum wage workers to go threatened. So I guess I'll just sit down quiet. I'm a little surprised they don't have his eyes go black like when the mass control came back as giant And then at the end Yeah, the helicopter, right?

Allen's telling Laura, try to look official Here comes the new boss And it's Flynn and dude This double-breasted blazer on Jeff Bridges here It's looking sharp Yeah, it's your classic go-go Reagan ideal man I'm going to be the better boss But I'm going to do exactly the same stuff

The other boss did But I'm going to get all the money though Hey, man, that's just the sign of the times, dude. Marty McFly wanted the big expensive truck. He fucking gets it in the end and that equates his life being better. Don't worry, Steve. Capitalism at the movies. He becomes a hermit in his own video game.

He better. Yeah, watch them sequels, dude. His life's horrible. So don't worry about. And I will agree with you, Eric, about the double-breasted suit. But come on, it's Jeff Riches. You put this man in a garbage bag. He's looking fantastic.

If he was walking out a garbage bag, I'd be like, can I pull that off? No, I can't. I would want to try it because he looks so good in that garbage bag. But then we get the shot of the cityscape and as sunset goes down and we see the highways and the lights of the city moving fast

and it looks a lot like a computer thing. And I love that. It's a really cool and just and I mean like give me a beautiful sunset shot of Los Angeles like that. You can't fucking beat it. It looks so good. We never get a date on this but we assume it's the near future, right?

Is that the idea? Oh, I don't know actually. Yeah, they don't say a date. You know it's Los Angeles because of the street that Flins, that's a real intersection in L.A. Yeah, but, but yeah, no, they don't, they don't say. Cool credit font, except when Journey comes up, you get the

Journey logo, like they, whoever, they were like, Steve Perry was like, you better fucking do the goddamn journey logo motherfucker. It's a two fucking songs and you're going to put our cool logo on and it's not going to be just with the, you're throwing it in with the rest of the fucking plebs

and the music credits, right? No, no normal 12 font. Absolutely. not. No, it's our font. Axel did that for us. He spent a fucking day doing that shit. It's also just like two of the most forgettable journey songs you've ever heard your life, which stinks. But that is the end of the movie here and then it wouldn't come back around. Shit, what was that movie? 2009? 2010? When did Legacy? 2010, I think. It was 2010. It was a while after.

So I guess it was a little bit of one of our first legacy sequels. Oh, no. But that is the end of the 1982 story. We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts and recommendations. Chris Cabin. I think,

yeah, I mean, I was glad I came back to this because the last time, the first time I watched it all the way through was after I had seen Tron Legacy and like so much.

I was like, well, I should actually see the damn thing because I had seen bits and pieces, but I had never watched it all the way through. And I was glad I came back to because I forgot how sad, I really find this very satisfying.

as a story and as, you know, performance and as the effects. Like, the effects really do sell this thing to me. And it's the same way that I think a lot of the effects sell legacy for me, too. And it helps that you have bridges, you have these, you know, good actors to sell it as well. But to me, that it's so immersive that it works on all the levels that I would ask, like, a fun action, sci-fi movie to do for me. It just works for me, man. And I absolutely, if you haven't seen it before, absolutely go 96 minute, beautiful, perfect.

There you go. Steve Saneck. Yeah, I'd probably go for a 105 minute cut, you know what I mean? Like eight more, just to tighten some of these story, both. I don't recommend. I think the effects are amazing. The visuals are great. I love a young bridges and the rest of the cast is really fun too.

Great David Warner. Really no complaints like, you know, with a capital C, but just like, if it just made a little more. since the little leaps from one beat to the next would be helpful, I would like, you know, going back to the real world a little bit more so that like kind of ironed out what what the stakes really were and like just even 30 more seconds of just like what the end of their relationship is, like, wow, you know, hey, you got the girl, I got the company, shake hands, you know, something as opposed to like, they're talking and the camera's just leaving them on the platform I'm there. But again, recommend.

It actually, I like this much more than I thought I would. I do want to check out Legacy now, and I'm definitely going to try to do Aries as well when that comes out. So yeah. There you go. Eric Siska. Yes, humongous recommend. I mean, I don't know if I'm going to say anything else that's going to be illuminating, but this is a lot of fun. I love the effects. I love the music and all these movies. I think they've got a really interesting franchise here. I wish, well, I I love that it's under the Walt Disney banner. You don't see that that much.

And they need to get nutty with it again and start making some weird, cool movies that vibe out. And just put it under the Disney banner. How about a Tron ride at one of your parks? There you go. I think there is some sort of Tron thing somewhere. Yeah. As soon as you said it, I was like, ooh, that kind of sounds familiar.

You have to be able to get on a light cycle. Come on. I got you better. I think that's what it is. I better. I got to work off these buns. Oh my god Yeah I mean I'm not going to say anything that you guys didn't cover

I will say it is a total recommend for me I actually liked it much more than the last time I watched it I will say though I would be remiss But I didn't mention because if my aunt is listening She's a big Bruce Boxleitner fan Because she's a huge fan of all 88 episodes of the show Scarecrow and Mrs. King where he played

Stetson and they're I think they were like detectives or something but anyway there you go at least Bruce Boxlight scarecrow and Mrs. King no I love Tron it's fucking great there is apparently

a light cycle ride now so there you go where they where they is that in like a park or is that like the weird corner of a David Busters where are you finding that Magic Kingdom or something

there you go to go to fucking Florida for that shit then I don't know if I'm going to do that at the present time. Someone write in, let me know if there's a California version. Totally.

Until that time, I will be. Eric, I think you and I might be movie buds tonight, man, if we both watch Trott Legacy this evening.

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nice. We got a lot of junk in this fucking store. Andrew, do you remember this movie? Radio! What are you doing over there? Do I remember this? I remember back in the 90s, I saw this movie a ton. I loved Max von Sido as the devil. A lot of beats and moments in it I don't. That's why I'm so excited to go back because it's been ages since I've seen it. I have never seen it. There's one scene particularly that I think I think you might want to like fast forward through. A dog death? Yes, I was going to say. I just remember I watched it like four or six years ago and I was like I don't remember I don't remember much of it because I was probably a little bit home But I was like that's an episode. So there you go. Oh yeah, it absolutely is. So until next week when we find out if it is indeed an episode, it totally is. I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadak. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. Take it easy.

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