We Hate Movies - S16 Ep826: Halloween (2007)

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

“It’s a white-trash version of one of your favorite horror movies” - Andrew On this week’s episode, our Halloween horror movie marathon is just getting started as we chat about the 2007 Rob Zombie remake, Halloween! Why are we taking an hour to get adult Michael back to Haddonfield? How great is younger Loomis’s hair? Couldn’t we have gotten a bit more Brad Dourif peppered throughout the picture? Is the sequel to this an “I Got It, By The Way” situation? And does this movie smell like pee? PLUS: Stay tuned for Rob Zombie’s Uncle Buck, with John Candy as The Shape! Halloween stars Malcolm McDowell, Sheri Moon Zombie, William Forsythe, Scout Taylor-Compton, Brad Dourif, Danielle Harris, Hanna Hall, Bill Moseley, Daeg French, Kristina Klebe, Danny Trejo, Ken Foree, Udo Kier, Sig Haig, Daniel Roebuck, Clint Howard, and Tyler Mane as Michael Myers; directed by Rob Zombie. This episode is brought to you in part by MOOD functional gummies! Head to mood dot com, find the functional gummy that matches exactly what you're looking for, and let Mood help you discover YOUR perfect mood. And don't forget to use promo code WHM when you check out to save 20% on your first order. Also by ASPCA Health Insurance. To explore coverage, visit A-S-P-C-A pet insurance dot com slash WHM. That’s A-S-P-C-A pet insurance dot com slash WHM. Eligibility restrictions apply. Visit ASPCA PET INSURANCE DOT COM SLASH AMAZON TERMS for more info. Be sure to pick up our digital show on Terminator: Dark Fate, available now in our Patreon shop! Don’t sleep on snagging your tickets to our 15th Anniversary show this December where we’re talking all things Arnold in Total Recall! It’s gonna be a gas and we wanna see you there! Click through for tickets now! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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All right, that's it for announcements Let's get into today's episode That's right, get your tattered t-shirt and torn jeans on Grow your hair out and don't take a shower for six weeks Because we're talking about Rob Zombie's Halloween 2007 Have a great week, y'all enjoy the show This week on the program

It's like a white trash version of your favorite horror movie. It's Halloween 2007. Oh, Christ. I'm Andrew Jupin. Fuck you, motherfucker. Steve and Shadak fuck, cuck, sucker fuck. Eric Siske, Steve stole my lines. Chris Cabin.

And we hate movies. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a title of one. could scare him. Sometimes, dead is murder. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door.

They're coming in! It is time to keep your appointment with the wicker man. They're coming to get you, Barbara. He's sick for fucks using one too many movies. Now, Sid, don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos. psychos. Movies make psychos

for creative. Put the fucking lotion in the bag. It's an excellent day for an exorcism. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hey Movies. Thank you for tuning in to the fine program. As always, the Halloween spooktacular

2025 rolls on as we get to, yes, exasperated sigh. Halloween 2007, directed by Robert Zombie. And yeah, it's, I think, you know what? 800 plus episodes, I think that was the greatest summary I ever gave. It's a white trash version of one of your favorite horror. It is.

It is awful. I'm sorry. This is it's not okay to like a movie. If you like this, you have a problem. This is the one that broke the credo, huh? I am losing my mind at this movie. I hated this movie when it came out. I hated it. I hate it. Excuse me?

Guess who has a problem. I like this movie. Oh, come on now. I thought you just like two. no no i like this is why now no no no no the one i don't i really just do not like is house of thousand carbs i think that's this is chris kavin looked at like how all the major critics panned it and was one to be a contrarian let me you're going all the way back to like the first fucking accusations i had as a critic that i'm a contrary that wasn't over this movie though no no what do you like about this movie chris i actually do think it takes seriously the idea

fucking bullshy him here your fucking sister titties no no seriously what do you like about this movie as I was trying to say I think it takes seriously the idea that Michael Myers was originally a person it doesn't it's not kidding around about that it's not doing that it's just window dressing

it actually does dedicate itself kidding around because it takes like 50 minutes for him to be an adult well this is 50 minutes for adult Michael the head had and feel yeah I mean that's just to show you like it they are like here we're going to spend a lot of time with this adolescent version of him.

I think that destroys what the carpenter thing was. It was unsettling that it was just a kid and it was unsettling that it was just a thing. It was like he could hide amongst anyone. This is just like Triple H and his dad was screaming about rape or whatever the fuck. I question anything being able to destroy Carpenter's vision because it's Carpenter's vision.

I don't think it destroys it. I just think it's a bad way to do it because I think the Carpenter way of doing it, The carpenter, Deborah Hillway. To be clear, I prefer the carpenter vision. Is that right? Are you sure? Yes, I am 100% George.

I'm not saying you don't. I'm just saying why I think it's more effective is like, yes, in the 78, he comes from like a presumably more loving, middle class, you know, like stable household and just like there's no explanation. I feel like the no explanation explanation is way more terrified. Yeah, it's just a kid that like snaps and you don't know why versus this. which I think is just this didactic, like, is everybody getting it? This is why he's going to be Michael Myers because his mom's boyfriend called him a fucking gay slur a hundred times.

To me, it's like, and I think I'm more mixed on Rob Zombie, a little zombie curious there, I guess you were saying. I think he should have stuck to making shitty music instead of shitty movies. I love Lord's of Salem. I really like his Halloween too, which is weird because I absolutely load this movie. When we were doing research for Texas Chainsaw, it was, it got it to the AFI for, you know, being culturally significant. Or the Library of Congress. Texas Chainsaw, you mean? Texas Chainsaw got, like, wait a second.

Got inducted into the Library of Congress for being culturally significant and the idea of it. This is culturally insignificant. Thank you. I think that this movie is absolutely like a nadir in horror for me. Like what I go for for horror, this doesn't do. It's the, it's the excruciating screaming. everybody's got to be like, no, please, but I have kids. Why are you doing this?

Come on, Mikey. I was good to you, Mikey. I'm Danny Trejo getting murdered in this movie, sadly. Oh, come on, Mike. Cat needs medicine. If I can't do it, no, the cat's going to die. God, God, Jesus. Oh, my God.

Like, Trejo's pretty good. Malcolm McDowell is pretty good. And Brad Durf is good, but everyone else in this is like a non-actor. I would say, no, Udo Kier, I don't know, we watched different cuts. I watched it. Udo Kier was not in the cut I saw. Oh, really? He's in there for one minute. Udo Kier was in the cut, you and I both saw for what happens. Seriously two seconds. He's one of the doctors that Loomis yells at like, you let him

out of here and you fucking, it's him and Clint Howard. Right, Clint Howard, I remember. Wow. Okay, cool. What a waste. In the theatrical cut, Udo Kier is in like seriously two shots of the movie. It's great because he goes, you let him out. I can't believe. You let him out. And he's like, I'm responsible for everything that goes on here. I can't believe. It was just like, oh, I'm so sorry. I let the guy out. You remember it. She's Louise.

Okay, so the vending machine breaks. This is my fault. The hulking monster who kills everyone. That's also my... Just put it all on my plate. It's fine. Everyone just comes after Udo today. It's beat up on Udo there.

I don't get it. Was I the only person there? No, no, but seriously. Why don't we talk seriously here? Was I the only person there? I was home with my wife. No, to Eric's point, I do like a lot of the supporting cat.

zombie is a big you know loves B movies and all and movies in general so like he loves to cast people he likes like ken for reason this movie d wallace uh classics people i mean people you love to watch i mean these dude who played scully's brother and the x files is d wallace's husband yeah dude fucking bill scully junior absolutely i didn't even yeah that's him for fucking two and a half seconds in this movie also i guess that's the problem is the most interesting characters are either like bit parts that get killed super quick or just bit parts in general. Like Ken Fauri stomps into this movie. I'm like, hell the fuck yeah.

Oh, wait, you're just at the truck stop before he gets to Haddonfield. You won't live well. Yeah, I mean, that I guess is the thing is I gave this movie three and a half stars one letter box. What the fuck? I give it a half a star. I know, I know. I will spit my tie all over the room. No, I mean, what, because what I like about it is the first half. I actually

like the work of the kid. I like all that stuff. I think once this turns into horror to Steve's point, the screaming turns into horror. Yeah, once it goes like full on like, like, like, Everybody's being stabbed. Everybody's screaming all the time. What's the Halloween engine?

Yeah, yeah. Once that thing is that I get like, the screaming is way too much. And like, and like, and I get it, but I get it to. The screaming was too much at the start for me. It was the opposite. Really? Because I didn't think it was that bad in the beginning. Chris doesn't mind, he doesn't mind, uh, he minds the horror screaming more than he minds the

family argument screen. Yeah, the family argument screaming I get. That's totally fine. I guess, I guess, I guess most of America grew up exactly like that's, I mean, that's also, like, To me, like, but the screaming, as much as I dislike it, it also goes to his point, like, these are humans. If you were in this situation, you would be screaming your head off. Yeah, but I don't think that, like, the characters in the Carpenter movies are, like, fake, or, like, artificial in any way. No, it's a different way to do it, but it's also, but it's, I agree with you, it's irritating.

And it's also, like, I think it puts too big of a hat on it, and it's a little, you know, I don't have this biography in front of me. The dude's from Massachusetts also. Let's just, you know what I mean? Robert Zon. Oh, yeah, he's a fucking mass, dude. Oh, okay. All right. It's not like he's from Skull Fuck Virginia.

But that's why it's so interesting because you always forget that with the hellbilly nonsense. But like, that's probably why Lords of Salem is his best movie fucking by a country mile. Yeah, because he's used to it. By a New England mile, it's his best

movie. Oh, yeah, I guess I'm a hellbilly now. Yeah, we're going to be all coming in. See all those Yankeesh coming in for the leaves changing. Oh, yeah. I can't kill that demon from him. Yeah, got to go down the road if you want to kill that demon. Of course, the cramps are coming here for the fifth time this year.

Got to go see them once again. Hell yet, dude. I would appreciate if Robert Zombie put some cramps tunes in his films. Great band. Yep, got to go and kill my sister and then go clamming afterwards. Got some clowns. That'd be more terrifying. Like, imagine a slasher with like a clam mask.

You'd be terrified. Oh, just like a dude wearing a huge clam. Yeah, with like pearl eyes. Okay. Honestly, that is terrible. Is it one clam or made of several clams? I think just one big shell for the hell. No, it's one huge clam.

It's like fucking daft punk in New England. You'll never survive the clam bake. Oh, dude, yes. That's what it is. Like, it's the mask is a clam and the body's like, he wears like a net with a bunch of like corn on the cob. Exactly. All the stuff of the clay. Yep.

Steep potatoes. Exactly. He's made large clam shells to bake people in. Oh, yes. He takes people and knocks him over the head. He puts them in the tank. Yeah, yeah. He uses the little mallet and he uses like the shell cracker to crack skulls.

Oh, not unlike tonight, my wife was killed with drawn butter and a large butcher knife. Yeah, no, he definitely is like taking some old lady's face and shoving it in like a pool of melted butter and dropping her. This is a hard movie. We hate movies. We're going to make this film. We call it like Labor Day or something. The Tube. The original is ours.

Yes, we get those two We can make that So yes, this is the 2007 I gotta say here's the thing Here's a stupid thing to do Starting your movie with a fake quote From a fake person This Luma's quote, eat shit

You like this quote though, right? Yeah, yeah He just said he didn't And I know you wrote it down so please It's funny last time I was watching this I started like Eric got it I said the same thing to myself The Darkest Souls are not

The Darkest souls are not those Which Choose to exist within the of the abyss, but those that choose to break free from the abyss and move silently among us. I wish this fucker was silent. And also, what does this mean?

It's like, if a dark soul is traveling from Boston at 400 miles an hour, but there's another dark soul going from Cleveland on another train. And the other thing is the dark soul coming from Cleveland, of course, is listening to Dragula to repeat. I just, it doesn't mean, it loses his behalf with, it's hard to keep it. It means

he's chipperish. His spirit is. His spirit is from hell, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it chose to break out of hell and inhabit this young man. Which this is, and this is kind of my issue with the, and I understand the instinct, A, like, you know, to make this your own, like, let's really dig into the family trauma and the whole deal of it.

Rob Zombie was elevating horror before anyone asked anyone else to, yeah. I understand the instinct, but I think that my issue is it's either one of the other. and the Danny Trejo part is kind of weird because up to then the kills are somewhat righteous. You know what I mean? He kills William Forsynd. He kills the bully. He kills, I mean, he kills the sister and she's also kind of abusive to him.

The boyfriend, who knows? It's all about and then he kills. The boyfriend's kind of a stray. But doesn't that make it messier? Like, isn't that the point? I think it's actually not though. Is he a demon or is he a guy that has a moral code? No, there isn't, no, because the thing with the Trejo character, because

I was thinking about this too, the turn comes when the mistake is he tries to put the handcuffs if it was just like you know what Mikey you do you like and he left Smith's Grove Sanitarium that Danny Trejo character would get to retire in three months like that I don't

mind it so much with the Treo character because that's like the crossing the Rubicon it's like now he is just pure murder yeah yeah so I get it there to a degree but it's just I just wish this family stuff was better written and Chris I love saying fuck that fuck

Fuck, fuck. You love all these words. I do, but not in this order. Okay. So, uh, Sherry Moon, one of our greatest actresses. Of course. You're always signed by Chris. I, I know, she's actually great in Lords of Salem.

I want to say that. Again, I don't know what fucking planetary alignment happened while they were making that. She's also, I like her as the ethereal ghost in Halloween 2 as well. Like, it almost redeems the, the performance isn't even bad. I'm not saying, I think Halloween 2 just makes him Jason Voorhees. Yeah. It's mommy, mommy, mommy. in the second one

when he was never Mommy, Mommy, Mommy Sister, sister, sister, sister He was sister, sister, sister, sister Sister, sister, never knew how much I missed you. Oh, wow, dude. Something about a family tree

Tisha and Tamara Mower Wee did that I never watch this. Sister, sister, no, I didn't either. Oh, what did I say? You said Tisha. Oh, yeah, Tia and Tamara Mowry, that's right. Oh, and then their brother Taj Mowry. That's enough of the family tree.

Jesus Christ. Holy Lord But so she's making breakfast Yes William Forsyth is He's got a broken leg He's got a broken arm I need to know

Whatever this work accident was Or if it was like he flipped his chopper Driving yeah I think it's a second one He was definitely drunk He might be drunk at work He might be drunk on the road But it was drunk

And it led to this Alcoholism led to it Before we get fully to breakfast Though we do see Young Michael Myers Playing with his baby rats Or whatever That's right

He's listened to, like, kiss or something. That's another, see, that's the thing is torturing rats, you know, torturing small animals, wearing kiss t-shirts. Oh, big time. These are the big signals. These are the safe and service, dude, it's right there in the name. Exactly. You don't think, too, because I was reading the Wikipedia and it just hit me, too. I was like, oh, wait, this takes place like 1990.

What is that? I was doing the math. Yeah, it's got to be like, what, like an 89, 88 situation? Where is that CP? What's Kissed doing here? Right? Like, we're Nirvana's bleach. It's weird because he's like trying to find, like, what is that sweet spot?

or I can still make it feasible that a kid would be listening to music that I, Robert, zombie, like, but I can also then flash forward and have most of the rest of the movie take place in a present-ish day. Considering the looseness at which William Forsyth uses the F-bomb,

you don't think he's using that for Scott Weiland. That's a good point, yeah. Kirk Cabain. Look at him dancing like a snake, like a major F. Yeah, no, it's just flying. Yeah, we see Michael pick up a rat.

He's like, oh, I love you so much. Elvis. Elvis. That's fun. And then she's making breakfast and she's mad at him for everything and he's mad at her for everything else. And he's like, bitch, the new hot one, he's like, bitch, I will skull fuck you right now. And I'm like, I haven't had my coffee yet. Honestly, don't, don't threaten to skull fuck me until I've had my coffee.

The problem with this family. You can get that on a coffee cup. And I guess we're trying to say this is what creates a serial killers because everything is so sexually charged. But that was after that skull fuck line is after he's like, That new bingo waitress who's giving me the freaky eye. Maybe I'll choke my chicken on those floppy tits. Yes. Choke my chicken is what also at one point we're told that he's threatening to purge his snorkel.

Yes. Okay. And how many euphemisms before the toast is done? I feel like I want to Cherry Moon to just turn and be like, can I just get the kids out of the house before this shit starts? Honestly, man, with the screaming and the skull fucking and the whatever and the flappy tities. Smoke your cigarettes and stew. And once the kids get on the bus, you can call. me a fucking bitch till the cow's

I mean it's five years it's been at least five years of this shit she's used to this shit I mean she survives on this shit I feel like I guarantee like Rob Zambi's right off you know he's right off the camera here directing this film saying stop cut cut cut everyone be worse do a worse performance

in every level where's the dirt girl get the dirt girl in her they're not dirty enough living dirt girl got to dirty up these fingernails definitely could you get some grease on the cheek Well, because the problem is, again, like, and I, you know, I bring this up every time I criticize this, because the profanity on the show, I understand. But when it's written profanity and you have dialogue where it's like constant swearing, it just feels so artificial. And that's why it destroys these performances because it's so distracting.

You're like, can everybody just stop for two seconds? It feels edge lord. It feels like, oh, man, what if they fucking cursed along. I guess to me the difference is that, like, edge lords, a key part of that is that they're always thinking they're cool. And nothing about this feels like anybody in here thinks they're cool. I agree with that. They just do not have ability to communicate. They're just awful human.

I think the director thinks he's cool. I agree with Eric with there. But I also think you think he thinks these guys are cool. I think the director thinks he's cool for doing this. It's edgy that you're seeing these cool, like low rent hellbilly types. The thing too, with the zombie at least- Wouldn't it be awesome if Judith Myers used the C word anyways? The thing is it's, I think it's the, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's.

either it's either improv or it's improv adjacent, like, the overtalk is a huge problem in this movie, because it gets cacophonist and you lose lines. It's like the goonies. It kind of is. And in both cases, Bob Altman, they are not. Exactly. Like, there's ways to do it, and there's ways to do it.

Like, later on, I think, when Annie and the third girl and Loria walked, Linda, and like, this is the moment of reprieve of like, oh, these are this is what they're, you can't hear a word. They're all just overtogging each other. Like, whatever the story is about the cheerleading thing. I'm like, you lost me five minutes ago

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let's go folks you can't get through a breakfast without old mama's boyfriend ronnie making a pass with judith uh-huh but not at judith i guess making a comment about judith back to sherry moon where he says that bitch has a nice dumper on her nice little dumper like that's another thing it's like maybe you just talk maybe say she's got a nice ass like something more normal Here's where the one where I'm like, let's stop. So like Michael comes down, you know, he's got blood on his hands

because he fucking killed that rat, hardcore man. He's wearing his clown mask, very important. And they're making fun of him or whatever. And Judith's like, what were you doing up in the bathroom, Michael? And she takes a milk bottle and starts jerking it off. And I'm like, you're doing this in front of the guy that just talked about your nice dumper and your fucking mother, what is going on? She's referring to that he stroked.

the rat to death, like he jerked off the rat to death. Yes. This is just, you know, it's like, when someone's, you know, like, when a joke is kind of ruined by having another button on it, that's like too much, it's a hat on a hat. Right. This scene is hat on hat on hat on hat with all this fucking... It's a series

of hats. It's too lewd and I'm the king of lewd. So yeah, we're at school. We're in the bathroom. The brother from Spy Kids is playing a tough. This is a mistake. This kid can't do tough guys stuff. This is pathetic This is kind of my issue

It's like The kid The family talks like one way And it's all fuck you Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck And then he goes to school And everyone's fuck you fuck fuck fuck Fuck fuck and I'm like

Okay We need to hear a different voice Come out of this kid's mouth This is suburban Illinois Yes but at least teenage boys I'd be like all right This is literal bathroom It would make more sense

If he was getting bullied at school Versus every single person You know abusive stepfather sure But everyone It's too much one it's a hat on a hat on a hat just make it one person inspired you to be a monster uh they're about to fight

but then richard lynch comes in uh who's this guy i want to say he's in scanner he's a villain in a lot of movies he's in scanner cop actually you can believe it oh wow the very movie we did a commentary track on the disc release vinegar syndrome big B movie actor really fun guy to pop up

and stuff yeah it's kind of awesome he just michael tells this principle the fuck oh yeah no yeah this guy I love his look he looks like he was in a fire but might not have I really I do like him well that's I mean this is the guy who is trying to be like

understanding but immediately Michael fuck you yes exactly get the fuck out of my face such titles as sword and the sorcerer yeah good movie invasion USA oh yes okay I did look up this guy and I'm because all of those titles

sword and the sorcerer I think is the best Albert Pion movie yes that's a good movie that's a good movie recently got a 4K remo um so yeah we go to the principal and he brings in Ms. Myers year and this is where we meet Doc Loomis played by a

dyed haired longish hippie, foppish-looking Malcolm McDowell. The establishing shot of Loomis was absolutely killer and again the flop is just incredible It's great with the sunglasses coming down Like hey teach how's it going? Totally. Why can't we have a cool

music cue for this guy? This is badass He needs to swing his chair around Like all right Mike I'm going to wrap with you a little bit. Exactly dude if they made him more like a weird new age guy at first and then dealing with michael makes him into like this crazy evil obsessed doctor like over those many years that would be we're you know we really jumped ahead of some of that bullying there's some iconic lines there like you're heard your sister got caught selling blowjabs they had to pump come out of her stomach iconic

a ball liquor um want to make copies of this poster some from mommy for the whole school do you think she'd let me suck her tits while she sucks my dick for a quarter you got the whole script there I'm doing a community production a community theater production later I'm playing the bully we do find out that yes his mother is a stripper it's not dancer

flyers for the strip club Halloween buffet or whatever is going on is kind of sad hot wings as compared to our usual cold wings that we get from the diner hey Teresa I know I'm just here for the wigs you keep dancing though sweetheart you look great I'm just gonna

nothing like the not getting hard today just eating the wing. Best wings in town, also the best girls in town, I know, but it's a wing day. It's wing Wednesday. The most ill-attended strip club in history, like, second only to a. Vivica A. Fox and ID4. Not a lot of people at that strip club in that film. And nobody's

paying attention. And Loomis addresses the great actress, Sherry Moon zombie, about how they found, there's a cat, there's a dead cat that was in his backpack and she's just like, so what, he found a dead cat? So what? Like, delusional parenting

So what? He found a dead cat on the way to school. The lady, wake up. Listen, everybody finds dead cats on the way to school and fucks it in their locker. I mean, come on. They never get run over. What are you talking about? Even if she wants to make excuses for that, the pile of Polaroids with this, like, dog that he killed. Oh, man.

And she's not putting it together. And he has to be like, okay, once again, when I step on your foot and tell you the following, killing animals is the first step towards something way, way, way worse. Do you understand? So how many F-bombs are being dropped before he leaves in the morning? Give me a roundabout number.

Going to make a notation. We've got a Ronnie in the house. Okay, okay, yes. Well, that's going to be the first thing. Can I talk to Ronnie and can I also, Captain, can I get a police escort for when I talk to Ronnie? I need that as well.

What is skull fucking anyway? well that's something for me to make up let me see if kinsie had anything what did kinsie say about skull fucking I bet it's in there it's in the back somewhere so Michael overhears Loomis explaining

to his stupid mother with the diagnoses and he books it out of the school here and then we find this character of Wesley Rhodes boy we meet this little fucker in the woods and this I feel this kind of sucks because Because, again, like, the fixation or the focus of him turning into a monster should be the killing of the family.

The fact that he has a practice around and kills this other kid before we get there, it takes all the wind out of the sails, I feel. I mean, it's great because this kid's got a mouth on him and boy, does Michael close that up. But this is not for this movie. What about he's bleeding from his eyes? Is that do anything for you? It's pretty badass. I was going to say, I'm fine with this. this is a okay with all this he gets the like the kid like drops the flyer whatever he like

picks it up and looks at it and i mean yeah a bully getting his just desserts look it's great yeah yeah i mean i think this is appropriate uh okay no but i think to like the point we're make about like putting him as a bully it allows for this scene to be so pathetic like i i think it works to its advantage of like showing like this is just a kid like he's a stupid fucking teenager and yeah you're gonna kill him but he doesn't deserve it No, exactly. Yeah, it pushes it. But again, it is just like, I want that snap on Halloween night, because that's what the fucking lore, that's the story.

And also, it's completely dropped. Like, we're not saying anything about this dead kid at any point, any therapy sessions. Like, did they ever find the fucker? Like, where's a milk cart? This is Halloween, to be fair. I guess it's probably like 3 p.m. It still counts.

The buckets aren't out yet. I just mean when we're seeing, like, like Malcolm McDowell should mention this in the sanitarium at some point. And also that boy that you beat the dead. with a branch outside the skewer. But it's just not, like, SpyKids kid just goes away, beaten the death, never avenged ever. So I think is Forsyth watching the thing here when they're...

Yep, which we do twice a lot. Of course, you've seen all the horror movies, Rob Zombie. If there's one thing I know about you, you love horror movies, you are proficient in the history of all horror. No, no, I mean, you're showing all these mutilated animals. Why not put on Texas chainsaw at this point? because that's clearly an influence. Oh, it's beyond a...

Oh, yeah. Or do the thing, it would be kind of fun watching the first thing in the first half, and then the, the... Present day, we got the carpenter on. Yeah, that would be something. But the fact that it's just, say, I was like, you gotta be kidding, me.

He's watching it, and, you know, Michael wants to go trick-or-treating. But he also calls, you know, he's like, oh, you've been, you know, William First... Forsyde has this line about, like, oh, you've been torturing animals. That's a real F-A-G stuff.

Yes, we've got two... We've got five F-bombes, at least in the two-hour cut that I got. Which is a lot for a movie released after 1976. For me, it's a lot. Four is like in the first 20 minutes. No, it's five, after he escapes, after he escapes the, uh, the mental institution,

nobody says to you have four to care. I think like 75% of it's got to be this foresight character, though. No, it's that in the hellbilly, uh, orderlies that, that accidentally break him out. It's all people you hate. Uh, yeah, it's true. Not cool characters saying it. But it's not like, 10.

No, it's not. I just feel like build me a reason to really hate them besides them using foul language and yelling around the house. Well, the other two are trying to rape a girl. Yeah, that's happening. We don't have that. Oh, you don't have that. Oh, you don't have that. It's not in the cut that we watch.

Theatrical. But so those F-bombs are not in there then. Yes, they are. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know, but the orderly ones. Yeah. But there's actually very little with that orderly after the. Trejo introduction.

Yeah. After that, the guy's like non. I know the guy you're talking. talking about. Yeah, he looks like a sister fucking weirdo. Yes. He's like not in the movie. Oh no, he's the reason. He's the reason for the season. He gets a hell of a kill. Sherry Moon's going to work.

But it's kind of great because she's like, now you know, you shouldn't even be going trick-or-treated with that shit you pulled at school. Shit you pulled at school today. Pulling the fire alarm. Not doing your homework. Calling you teacher a bitch. Yeah, these are things that falls under shit you pulled at school today. Dead cat.

Dead cat and a Polaroid Atlas of animals that you've ritually tortured that would make John Wayne Gacy blush Yeah so that's that shit you pulled at school today That's all I was saying But yeah Sherry Moon is like all right Judith You have to take him trick or treating

I got to go to this triptacular buffet You know Halloween's night that we're doing at work She leaves I think some slurs are thrown out Then the boyfriend immediately comes over And it's like oh we're not going to go trick or treating We're going to go upstairs I like that the boyfriend's a little ugly

I really appreciate that He's just kind of like I really like an ugly weirdo. So we've got this sequence set to Love Hurts where Sherry Moon is doing her stripping and the audience is ambivalent at best. Yeah, yeah, I don't think you. And then you've got Judith getting railed by this boyfriend

and he's, the boyfriend brings over the Shatner shape mask, which actually this is kind of one detail that I enjoy. It's the boyfriend's Halloween podcast. I have a question about that. Does the movie Halloween exist? exist in this reality because that's a direct Halloween mask. It's not

I guess in those movies they get it at the story. Yeah, but this seems so produced. Because it's like it looks like the way they already aged or like journeyed up the mask. Like it doesn't look like he just went

to the drugstore and bought it. It looks like this is you know after season of the witch this is the mask. Right, right. So Michael makes his move right here. We've got the Ronnie gets all duct tape to the chair. Yes. This is pretty great. Just the throats. For all, for what you just did to the bully, I feel like you need boy. There needs to be some fingernail stuff for Ronnie at this point. Well, he's not working at Abu Ghraib. I was going to say, it's a young boy. I am impressed that this

kid got this duct tape around this guy. As drunk as stupor as he was in. He got all that done. It is surprising. I was going to say, it's also impressive then that Ronnie was that drunkenly passed out that he didn't wake up to a little kid taping him to a chair. That is a a whole lot of wild turkey my lord. Oh, I'm sorry he probably can't afford that. Crazy turkey. My favorite bourbon, crazy turkey.

It's just it's like it's overproof. The black label with like red printing but just the prints and that's it. It's the Kirkland brand Wild Turkey. There you go. So this boyfriend is in the kitchen making a balona sandwich. Here's nothing of the murder in the next room.

Post-sex cold cuts, man. That's where you want to be. Trying to fold the meats. Trying to fuck with the mask on. I relate to it. But yeah, making this bologna sandwich in your girlfriend's parents' house, he gets the fucking

casino death right here. Baseball bat to the back of the head. We've seen her boobers by now. Jews Myers. Many, many. I hope you always wanted to jerk off to that little girl from the other Halloween movies

because you get to in this movie. That's a weird thing, dude. I think that's a really weird thing. I think it's very, very weird. It is. It's just because it's one thing like she's an adult, it's fine. You know what I mean? Sure. No laws against it. And if she was naked in any other movie, I'd be like, oh, then she grows to be an adult actress. It's just tasteless. And I think that's what Rob Zombie wanted to make. You wanted to make tasteless Halloween. Yes. Yeah. And that just does not work for me. Yeah. That makes sense. So Judith is the first of two characters

that will also listen to Don't Fear the fucking Reaper in this movie. Oh, come on with the duality thing. Hey, yeah, was in that other, remember that from the movie? Oh, do I? Yeah, because I've seen it 30 times because it's excellent. Don't worry, Mr. Samman's coming up. Oh, yeah. I got that reference as well. Would you, would you even?

I hope you haven't watched Uncle Buck a lot because then you are really going to have this ruin for you. John Candy has the shape. Oh, yes, dude. As a shape. A tasteless remake of Uncle Buck where you get to see all the kids' tits. Rob Zombie's Uncle Buck. Ben, you know what? He might have some.

I might be on board. I don't know who's Uncle Buck. Kevin from the office. We found an enormous human pancake in there, Sartz. He melted them all down, Sarge. So, yeah, you know, like you would, Michael starts touching his sister's leg as if it's the boyfriend. Because this is the thing. Steve, stop it.

Because it's one, like, in the movie, in the original, like, he puts the mask on, you see her naked. Like, you can clearly see that there's lust there. like you know what I mean like it's creepy it's like oh shit and the stabbing obviously we all know that that signifies it in in violence but this is the but but you you have to like hit it's the hat thing you got to put a hat he's actually touching like I got it dude I got it just from like before he just underlines every sentence it's Halloween for people who don't pay attention honestly but he's grabbing at her and then yeah and then just you know stabbed in the gut and she's crawling down the hallway here we got more uh Rob can I just have more whimpering

here. Like more whimpering. Really wet exhales really, really damp. Can we get some gurgling on the soundtrack? So yeah, he stabs the shit out of her. We've got the baby in the room. This will grow up to be Lori Strode in this abysmal movie in a second.

I will give Rob Zoppy one thing. At this point of the movie, the first time you're like, what's he going to do to that baby? You do have that? Not every movie. I'm like, you're like, oh, the baby's fun. I'm like, I don't know about that baby. But if you didn't, you know from the trailer that he's all in on the fucking sister idea, though, which is also bad.

Steve's point, I thought the whole family was going to pass it around in a huge act. I knew a fucking California cheeseburger, man. I just cook that shit up. I want the left arm. By the way, for our two directors cut heads here.

Any more with Daniel Roebuck as the strip club boss? No, I think he's in the next movie is the idea. He's got a one. Is he in two more? He's in two way more. He's playing And this character? Playing this character. Because it's just, I think it's just him coming out of the...

He's like, walking her to her car. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Because this is where Deborah comes home. Before he gets destroyed in the second one. Yeah, there's a little bit more. Oh, yeah. He gets absolutely annihilated.

I remember him getting killed. But yeah, so he's like escorts Deborah Myers to her car because she's gotten the call and she comes home to the carnage or whatever. Big question here. We're told by this newscaster, Judith has been stabbed 17 times. Why do we not have a sheet over that stabbed 17 times face? First of all, who's counting? Who's getting this information?

They just got her out of the house. Hey, four, five. Can you all the second? No, turn her for a second. Seven, eight, nine, all right. Perfect for the newscast I have here in a second. You know, it's funny.

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Fuck, yeah. This soap reads like 70s, you know what I mean? Like the way that he's talking, the Manson fear in. it. It's like... Yeah, why would you mention that if this is like 1989 or whatever? Yeah, it's a little less so. Because it's badass. I do. It's kind of cool. They talk about the longest trial in state history.

I mean, I know that like, I got the two hour cut. I would like less of it. I would like more trial, honestly. The trial would be kind of cool. Is there any trial? No, no. No. Oh, no. Well, it's also it's the longest trial in state history and we're told the whole thing's wrapped up in 11 months after the initial arrest. That's pretty fucking fast. They do things quick in Illinois, I guess.

I guess so. But yeah, Smith's Grove, 11 months later, he's been found guilty of first-degree murder. Yeah, I kind of feel like it should have been longer than 11 months, but whatever. So Luma's, of course, assigned to the case at Smith's Grove. And Michael's pulling the like,

oh, I don't remember what's going on? Where can I go home and see my family? And you know this little turds full of shit. He's fucking full of shit. He's just, because he's evil. I choose to believe that he's evil incarnate still, and that just shows shat abuse little boy so he's evil incarnate

he knows what he's doing he's trying to play this British psychiatrist well that's one thing I really do like is they don't play up like you can all we can all make fun of Loomis like because he does crazy shit in those movies but like it's usually on the act like I'm trying to catch a killer

I like that in this movie Loomis is kind of an idiot like he can't do anything he was always a bad doctor but like you were supposed to at least have a respectability for him like the way Pleasins played him at least this like I think McDowell is also

in on the joke a little bit he's playing him like he's a little bit of a fool and an idiot right yeah I mean because like eventually in this one too you see you know before my god before the hour mark of this movie we also learn that he is like written a book and profited off of all this eventually so it does

like Donald Pleasant's never wrote a book as far as I remember he's like an Edna Lorraine Warren type he's doing like conferences by Michael Maya's museum in my howlm you understand. Yes, it's just a bunch of mechanic jumpsuits and rusty butcher knives

but you know, it's like taking guns off the street, Sheriff. Just to be careful. In this initial interview, he's like, you can ask me anything, you know, he's trying to get along with this kid. And to your point, like, about how this kid's evil. I prefer vacant, like

vacant evil versus conniving evil, this kid trying to like, oh, I don't know what happened. Yeah. What? Me? I like the strong, silent type. We got Danny Trejo. He gets there. He does get there. He does get to the strong silent type. Danny is playing Ismail, the janitor here. And we get a brief thing of him being like, yeah, I know what it's like to be in behind bars.

Mikey, you've got to use your mind. In 1970s, he's coated because he's got these giant mutton chops. But then they're gone in the modern time. Yeah, it doesn't make a tone. Yeah, it doesn't. But he tells him, you got to look behind. these walls, Mikey, look beyond it. Yeah, like you live in your head.

There's no walls in there. Yeah. So he gets really, I mean, it's early for it, but he gets really into slip knot, it seems. Yeah, really just, I like the mask because it hides my face. Yeah, so he starts making these paper macha masks. And yeah, it's, they're a bit extreme. I like the orange one. The orange one that we get later on.

Oh, everyone has a favorite. Come on. Oh, is breakout mask? The breakout mask. Yeah, yeah. The black one is like, try. again. Black's actually the absence of color.

You're going to, I'm not going to get into the whole. I'm like, let's not split fucking hairs. This kid's a serial killer. What are you doing? I'm learning stuff from this movie. Here's why you're wrong, stupid. Like, come on. Do you actually, if you're, if you're institutionalized for being like a super murderer kid, are you still getting like, is he teaching him math and stuff?

No, I think that's gone. That's all of. No, no, no, no. No more teachers, no more books? No, no, no. Yeah, no more victims, dirty, low. Is there anything about Paper Mache in that song? No, that's what he would be doing.

Yeah, you're just down to arts and crap. I would, like, honestly, I'd prefer a movie where he's getting his GED behind bars, you know. There's some of the trailers coming by with the books from the library. Here you go. There are a lot of those movies out there. There's quite a lot. A lot of them are at the Tribeca Film Festival. And a lot of them are better than this.

So, you know, you just see a series of scenes of Michael shutting down more and more. We've got Sybil Damning as this. Nurse Wynn character. Oh, we should say that Sherry Moon is visiting him all the time, and she's coming in. And, you know, she's very, like, accepting of what happened, which is, I mean, you know, at a certain point, you've got to be happy with that fucking family. Well, with Ronnie, thank you for Ronnie, but come on, Judith. The daughter needed to be flushed, too.

Look, Michael, I know the dumper was a problem, but Judith overall was pretty fine. I don't think you should say that you, you flushed your sister, I think. Yeah, yeah, I know, she's dead. She's, like, trying to be, you know, she's trying to make this thing work, I guess is the idea. But, like, she is, like, she draws a line because, like, the kid is like, just let me come home. Like, just let me come home. She's like, that's not happening. Well, she does say a couple times, like, oh, I got to check with the doctor.

Let me go ask, but like, hello, Dr. Loomis? Just like, make phone call. What was there for you at home, Michael, right? You know, what, oh, you were, you were stabbing, stabbing rats. I guess that was the thing at home. Freedom. What, what, I guess that's the freedom. There's cool cuts in the fridge.

You can get it in whatever we want. But he hated being alive in that house. Well, he eliminated most of the problem. Yeah, he's going back because now the problem has been solved. It's just about to get good. He just put the cheat code in. He's good to go. Game genie, it worked like a fucking jar.

Fair enough. But then just tragically, one Christmas, we come to visit and it's not working out. And she goes to leave and Loomis is doing it. Oh, I'll walk you to the door. And they go out. And, yes, Sybil Danning as this nurse. oh cute baby goes in and michael kills this woman with a fork on the security camera i didn't have time to look at she was like an actress from the 70s yeah a bunch of different things

um tvs haven't you heard of it um rob zombie says heard of it the 1970s heard of it sideburns heard of that uh but this is actually i think kind of a neat little moment here the alarm audio all cuts out except for this alarm yeah and they run back in and this is this is it for uh for Debra, she's not going to visit after this moment because my God, he just killed another one on the inside. With a fork. This and the stripping scene are both, remind me of Halloween 2, like the sort of

trippier, headier, kind of using flourishes. Which Halloween 2? The good one, which just means this Rob Zombie one. Oh, shit, son. Oh, shit, son! You mean it? No, Halloween 2, 81 for me. Halloween 2, Rob Zombie, is equal

to this. Trash. Well, no, that's, I I think he gets rid of a lot of, I mean, at least for me, a lot of the issues I have with this movie, get fixed in two because there's not so much screaming. There's not extended shit like that. It's more trippy. It's more about the, like, and it's certainly indulgent, but like, that's what I go to horror for. I mean, I feel like two proves that he should have been a music video director and that's it. I mean, the two is kind of just like a two-hour printout video. I know.

Maybe you should do nothing. Maybe he should do nothing. sure okay so anyway Deborah home crying on the couch watching home videos she just blows her brains out that's the end of this character for now

she blows her brains out and then you hear the baby crying oh shit the baby was in the room at which point I just wrote down in my notes blows out her brains baby crying dash God this fucking misery I'm surprised zombie didn't be like all right so I just quick question

Can I get a squib on that baby And then it just like sprays the baby Is that going to get me sent to prison? I don't want to be in a land this situation here Can I just get a I just land this situation I don't want the baby to die The baby I want to live

I want to spray it with it's just jam Oh come on come on Youie bowl cannot be the only person Who asked about this There's got to be more Come on, you know what I'm talking about And this is where it's just too much

15 years later and the scene starts and you're still in the fucking sanitarium and I'm just like God damn it God damn it Tell me how yours worked in this cut The director is very different

We get the whole like It's this hellbilly guy He's being walked around And Danny Trejo's like showing him everything We have Loomis as an older man And he's like you know Oh Michael you haven't spoken in 15 years, I'm quitting

today. Nearly twice as long as my first marriage, you see. He's got four underneath that belt for sure. Dude, if it's nearly twice, I mean, if it's 15, I think he might have had like a seven-year itch situation. I was

married for exactly seven years and then I got that itch. Got that itch for your mother, Michael. As we're quitting and you're not going to say anything, I fucked your mother once. It was pretty good, honestly. So then we get a quick thing of Loomis doing a book presentation. Very Allah and Lorraine.

Here's my scary book. The Devil's Eyes, colon, the story of Michael Myers. And it's kind of a cool... I think the Loomis stuff. I actually want more Loomis, to be quite honest. There's a lack of Loomis, man. I would prefer it, yeah. I like the whole...

The book is called The Devil's Eyes because in the original movie, he's called... You know what I mean? That's one of those, like, neat little... Oh, I've watched the movie, I get it. Loomis could have been the framing device. Like, maybe he's already fucked up and Loomis is called in as this, like...

child psychologist yeah and that's where we start i don't need the argument over the fucking eggs at breakfast uh so then so after that so this is what we have it just cuts to it is Halloween and he's being moved or the day before hollum whatever it is he's being moved you get uh bill moseley as one of these guards tom tolls from seinfeld uh he's the tough guy that has the dog in the glasses store that bites a lane okay uh then you got leslie easterbrook eric Right. Who is she again? In Police Academy. Callahan. Yeah. Callahan from the Academy, who is a zombie

person at this point because she was Mother Firefly and Devil's Rejects. And Bill Moses is a big zombie dude too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And just a horror legend. He's one of the Devil's Rejects for crying out. That's right. And then there's a fourth guy. She was one of the best of the Police Academy. Callahan's great, great character. Absolutely.

So it's the four of them and they are just doing a, it's the same thing. Like, he's just being moved. Okay, we got to move. Oh, I see. He breaks out. he kills all of these guards and then he's kind of walking around and he runs into Danny Trejo and there's the Mikey, what are you doing? Okay, so director's cut. Tell us about

all the... Oh boy, the director's cut. So it starts with it's... You want to do this? I'll do. Say the exact quotes. Say exactly what happened. Hellbilly dude number one and the guy who plays the tall redhead dude from Children on the Corn is a... Oh, sure. That freak?

Yeah, it's like, oh, you're my... It's my cousin is in town. Oh, you pulled me from the bar and what what do you got here you got some good poon for me and it's in the mental institution he pulls out a female patient oh come on and it's a kill bill style like

you get in there you're going to do it and then remember kill bill happened already it sure it sure is there a pussy wagon anywhere there's no there is not put your big dick they both have they both have scumbagg moustaches a la pussy wagon and then the dude he's like I'm going to go get that guy that was

fucking with me earlier hey let's get him in on this and I'm like wait a second They're going to have sex with Mike? They're going to, they're going to rape him? No, they're like, they bring her into the room with them. To rape in front of him. Oh, man. And like, and not just even like a.

So this is like they're trying to cuck, Michael. I guess it's like, hey, you want it on this? F word, F word, this. Oh, this is where the count really goes through the room. It does. It really goes up. And you see, and not only that, I mean, like, it's rape seen in any Halloween movie, I would say it's gratuitous.

The way that this is shot, like, you see this, this woman's, like, thighs. and ass cheeks and this guy's like slamming like come on you want this mickey you want this and I'm like fuck are we talking about that's what I said in my in my notes so you say all that stuff is any of the stuff with the guards in the movie

well that's the thing they're not in you don't see any of the rest of the he just kills the rapist and then breaks out yes he kills the rapists and breaks out and then he kills but what is the thing he does there's something that he does what is the thing that offends him about Michael

when Danny Trejo like tells him to stop like isn't it just Danny Trejo's like like hey something you gotta respect his mask oh I'll destroy all this stuff he's like hey man don't touch his stuff what are you doing messing with his shit I've been looking after this kid for years and it's also hilarious because it's like okay if this was even the original

what's the dude's name George Wilber the first oh I think that I think George Wilbur might be the guy's name yeah that played the shame Yes. Or Nick Castle. One of the two. I got them mixed up. Oh, Nick. Oh, Nick Castle might have been. Nick Castle definitely is Michael jumping under the hood of the car.

Wasn't there one with a fun name, like Dick Wolfhard or something? Oh, Dick Warlock. But if it's one of those dudes, he's like six foot one, 180 pounds. We're talking about a six-eight doorway. When did, all right, so he doesn't talk, but he likes two things. making masks and putting up 400 on the bench press. That's what he likes to do.

Which is like, again, like, I feel like being a big guy is more of a Jason attribute. And I like, I like the original idea of Halloween and Michael Myers being, it could be anyone. Like, anyone could snap, anyone could stab, and it is more mysterious, it's more scary. But how is he

putting on this mask at the, at the hospitals my question? Where is, where is it happening? Yeah, that's a good But also, they probably put way protein and stuff. Part one is Nick Castle. All right. So here's your Xanax and your other antipsychotics and, of course, your creatine. You'll need that.

Oh, yeah. Pump up, Michael. I got the Kecklin peanut butter. So there's three things in that for you. Of course I'll spot you, Michael. Oh, wow. You're doing so good on the bench. Should I film this for your Instagram to show all your followers that you're working out?

He's working the bag a little bit. Look, a serial killer is bettering himself. Isn't this fantastic, Graham? Do the thing where you jump on the box. Oh, that's a good jump on that box. Michael, this is called a thirst trap. You're going to get replies to this one. Oh, Michael Myers has eyes like the devil's eyes.

The devil's eyes. And cum gutters like the devil's cup. I was going to say, the sequel to the devil's eyes. The good boy's eyes. But when he got into the gym. But this dude is like, I'm going to fuck with that guy. I'm not fucking with that dude at all. I'm afraid to even look.

be in the same room. Had it been a guy of a normal stature, like the original Halloween, you would make sense. Yeah, it would make sense. And then he would get out, and he would, you know, that would make sense. So, yeah, but these dudes actually, do they get, like, some decent deaths at least? I kind of forget. They get murdered pretty, pretty bad. He slams them against the wall.

Yes, that's right. We're doing way too much to slamming. That's true. These guards we see, and the theatrical gets slams. It's a lot of slams. And he is wearing the orange and black one, which reminds me of that great moment in Detroit, the Detroiters, when Connor O'Malley and Tim Robinson and her brothers and like he's got to

he has to move in with Tim Robinson for some reason like come on buddy pack your bags you're not going to need your slip not bad I need to get on that show it's a really fun show but and then yes he comes he comes across Danny Trejo and like Danny Trejo's like okay Mikey

I'm just going to put these cuffs on and we're going to go back to your room I'm like this is the state's problem once this guy this dude who is the size of a gorilla is out. I'm like, that's the state's problem. You're your tiny little, you know, super short Danny Trejo. I'm not trying to do fucking shit with this professional wrestler. Hey, Mike, you need a sandwich, brother?

I could, oh, man. You know, I got some beer in my cooler. I'm just going to give it to you. I'm going to walk away, man. Hey, Mikey, here's the path to the kitchen, man. I'll leave the door open. You get any knife you want. As like an orderly janitor, whatever type of person he's supposed to be.

Because I think he's mopping the floor at one point. I don't know exactly. Got a little bit of both. The janitor You see a bunch of guards And people murdered Just walk away What do you do?

Is it really worth Not getting paid enough for this That's exactly what it is $7 an hour You probably punched out already Oh sorry Sorry Dr. Lubas I punched out at six

Exactly Well yeah because we're all cowards Danny Trejo tends to play brave people More times than not Give me Udo Cure, give me an Udo Udo cure kill That guy could die on screen

Absolutely Oh my God I know anything things that happens after 8 o'clock. That's, it's not on me. I have a life, you know. I locked the door. I remember clearly leaving and locking the door. I said, good knock, Mikey, and then I left. This is not my problem. I cannot believe I didn't even notice him in this rewatch. And Clint Howard's barely in this. I want more Clint Howard. Here's how you don't know it's Clint Howard because he's costumed and groomed to look like a human being. There was a comb that

involved. He's not sticking out. It's not ice cream man. You will miss it because he looks like a person who's not totally insane. Also, just to push back a little bit on the he's a huge guy and he's a little guy. You never heard of the Napoleon complex here, fellas. Sure, yeah. The little guys want to beat up big guys all the time because they have no fucking security. But again, I would beat up that dude. Sure, okay, maybe not him.

But the, uh, he kills Danny Treo and this is the, come on, Mike. He had beaten you, I was good to you. And this was a drowning of something. The drowning. We drowned him in the sink, but then I guess that's taken too long and he throws him on the floor and then gives him the old Stu Mocker Gross Point Blank TV.

I want to... Welcome to prime time, bitch. Welcome to primetime machete. Now it's machete's time to shine. Somewhere in here, quick cut to Lumas get in the call. He's told it's a fucking massacre. It's a fucking massacre here. Sam, it's a massacre. That's pretty great. So here we go.

The fucking gas station. and Ken Forre as Big Joe Grizzly. He's fun in this. I like him in this. Michael kind of terminators him. You don't see that, because he's like, he knows he's his size. You know what I mean? I need you to get off the toilet and I need your bike, your motorcycle, your clothes.

I need your jumpsuit, your boots, and your sideburns. I need your cigar and your pornographic magazine. Give your boats, your motorcycle, and your William Shepner mask. Okay, here's the question. Chris Cavill, you just mentioned the porno mag. So I got to ask what's going on here Is this So he's talking about

He's got this Taco deluxe dinner That's backing up on him So he's gonna take a shit So this is a pornographic magazine Not for jerking material This is just casual reading Casual browsing

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Why we just don't think A person gets horny While they're taking a shit Wow This list movie spoke to you It does It's a beautiful text

You've never felt so seen on screen I'm just saying you don't think these people exist? Who doesn't have a raging erection while they take a shit? I mean, you're on the road all day long. You only get so much pornography time. So you get off, you go and you take your shit.

You're going to waste that time. He's just forcing it out. He's not going to read the New Yorker. Here's my theory. My theory is this is like the trailer for the coming attractions. I'm back at the hotel. Oh, I'm going back to page 58. He's just living some earmarks throughout the magazine.

I like this. That makes sense. Save it for later. So I don't got to do my browsing later. But yeah, he's like, Mike is a, I do like the grotesque feet that he's got because obviously he walked from God knows where. It's disgusting. These fucking muddy ass feet with the slippers.

Which reminds me, big trend in the footwear area lately, of course, is like, I see a lot of girls walking out on the street with like fluffy sandals. Sure. Okay. And they just look like slippers. And I'm like in my head, I'm like, you're just wearing like gross slippers outside on New York City Street. Well, to bring it back. It's so gross.

To 2007, it's like the ugs. Remember the ugs? But at least ugs were like closed and they were boots. I wear flip-flops of the city. No, no, no, no, no, no. But there's just something about the fuzzy nature of it where it just looks like you're wearing slippers in the street. And I know that there's like soles on them for outside. I would not even wear a proper sandal in the city.

in the city. It's just gross. And these gross ass feet with the slippers, I was like, that's what's happening to you. You're getting muddy slipper feet. Because I think to your point, Andrew, though, that he does just bang him against the wall, though, right? The Ken Forreida. Yeah, there's a knife at one point, but he knocks it

out of his hand. Destroy this stall. The stall is goodbye. Oh, yeah, yeah. But this is just another smash murder. I'm so tired of these smash burgers he's going on. I'm going to be a fan of smash burgers. It's always over whatever. Exactly. And then it's like, I need a double to make that anything. Yeah, and they're always

way too salty because we're just dumping salt on those patties. No, thank you. I want a big honking, medium rare. Exactly. But the good thing about a smash burger, because sometimes you'll get those like, oh man, here's two pounds of beef and one piece of cheese. That's bad in the other direction. Yeah, exactly. That's true.

Just a well-formed patty, ladies and let's think it through, right? Let's think it all through. We've gotten so America with just like the burger and here's what you can do with a burger. And remember, Chris, when we were in Vegas last, the fucking heart attack burger remember that place you guys had the heart attack we didn't go no no no we we had it a place across the street what consists it's got a fucking french fries on it it's just an

insane everything they got there's a bunch of different dagwood like level of all this name a thing i pretty sure a hot dog is on it i'm sure you can get it's just like different like burgers that have tons of shit on it and you can see this nowhere but the united states of america they have outside a scale and you stand on the scale before you go into the restaurant and if you are over a certain bit of carriage

you get to eat for free in heart attack you're rewarded yes only in America man so someone could like realistically could just live off of this heart attack not for long well that's what everybody except for an actor in this film

who also played Sabretooth Tyler Maine because he's got to be he's like 300 but the right way. It's like, get out of here, Tyler, come on. I don't, but I like this Homer Simpson work from home idea here of like, I'm never going to pay for food again. I'm just even fucking, I'm just heart attack

burgers until the day I die. Right. I just got to get to a certain weight point. So God forbid, you become homeless. It's got humongously obese and then just go there every day. And just get used to eating cold burgers. I know it's not the best leftover food, but you've got to train your body to accept things you don't

like. And when you qualify like an alarm went off and we saw it happen to a person. Really? How big was that fella? He was a big boy. It was not comically. Like, it wasn't like cartoonishly. So it's just three?

It wasn't Homer Simpson trying to see honking. No. What's the baseline? Was it 300, 400? I think it was 350. I think it was 350. I think it was, if you were over 350 pounds, you could eat for free at Heart Attack Berk.

Yeah. America. That's great. It's so wonderful. What did this movie also overdoses? Oh, let's talk about burgers. Is the head tilt? We're doing the hell head tilt. Like every other kill.

Every other kill were head tilts. Flag on the play. Flag on the play. And I'm telling you, write the fuck now. If anyone out there is writing or in the process of making a horror movie and you have your killer, examine his work like a confused dog, you got to stop it. Because not only is it like, we get it. You get one. It's so overused.

It's so overused. Get one a movie. Yes. no one gets any anymore I'm saying it's over with it's done with it's shut it down this Halloween remake that you would have a head tilt right like that sure yeah that's part of it

I guess because you know the laundry list of references to the first movie isn't fucking big enough but there's ten there's like ten it's ridiculous does he do it to anyone besides the boyfriend does he do it to Ken Foree right here he does I think he does do it to Ken Foree I'm not the same no he doesn't do it to the boyfriend the first girl

yes who gets the one sticks to the wall the Bob the Bob The Bob. He does that, but he does at least one or two more. Oh, okay. I don't remember it, but like, I do remember it. Maybe this is a director's cut thing, because I would have been going crazy if I know.

No, because I can't remember what the movie is now. Oh, actually, no, I think it happens in a violent nature. Like, there's some examination of the work. Guys, it's over with. Stop it. Just stop doing it. I'm okay with. I get that you saw a movie one time.

Yes, I know. I'm okay with one. I mean, it's overused here. To compliment this movie, though, I think there are a few good shots. of Michael in the background in the darkness, which is also very all the other movies. But I liked the stillness. I like the slowness

of those scenes. I like the quiet of those scenes. I wasn't hearing a gay slur for once in this movie. Took a break from that. It was a reprieve, a welcome one. So Ken Furie gets the fucking shit knocked out of them and that transitions into playing Mr. Sandman and we God damn finally Haddonfield

fucking Halloween already. 58 minutes into this movie. And that's sort of the problem is it's sort of like, it is two movies smashed together, smash-together together where you, and now, but now you're rushing, you're rushing Halloween, you're just rushing a Halloween memory maybe. You speed run the rest of the first movie. Yes. And in the first, in the original, Jamie Lee Curtis was pretty good actress.

I actually like her in this movie. Really? I know, Taylor Compton. I think she's better in the second one. I got to go to that guy. But it's like everything in this movie has to be so, I mean, it's not really her fault. so overtly sexually charged she's putting English muffins

on her tits going mom I'm going to fuck it or whatever it's just that's like that's very annoying I was like what do you think this is the fucking Myers household in 1989 love with that talk yeah it's a lot no thanks it's left over Myers jeans

you can't shake yeah it's scotillot com tin as Lori D. Wallace as the mother and like Pat shippers Mr. as of course Mr. Bill Scully Jr. Bill Scully Jr. I apologize to the great actor

but like it's just Derek's point yeah it's like oh the hardware store's closing down everything's changed in an America I'm like oh wow we got some political commentary look about tits mom glory snap with the tinnies again

God damn I wanted to put a drill through my fucking head it's pretty frustrating I wanted the Judith by the Mama Myers way out at some point absolutely but yeah so we get really folks I mean there's a lot that's just the same movie here. Mr. Strode wants Lori to drop off the keys at the old Myers house. He's a real estate guy

in this movie as well. Um, you know, so she goes to do this. Also, she will indeed be babysitting Tommy Doyle tonight. Tommy Doyle in this movie played by a child yet to be famous Skyler Gazondo, which I think is crazy. Jimmy Olson. Yes. Oh, yeah. He's doing the whole like, you're coming over. We're going to do Halloween stuff. All right. She is dropping off here. Michael is in the house digging up his mask. Yes. He finds the knife and the mask in the floorboard. When did you decide to do that? You know what, Rob? That's the devil's house.

The boogeyman lives there. And she like does the thing like, oh, I'm getting caught in the door, whatever. It's scary. And I actually like Skylar Grizondo is Tom. He's very funny as a little kid. I like both the kids. I like the girls. You can see that he would like grow up to be a better performer.

I think that kid is really funny. Yes. He's good. He's, uh, it's him and Billy Lord as like the rich kids in Booksmart, I think. That are hysterical. He's very funny on the pitchers pizza. My God. He nearly steal the thing.

Bien, bien, bien, oh, bien. He's also actually the only good part of that abysmal Ed Helms vacation. Oh, wow. He plays Rusty in it. I don't think I've seen that one. It's atrocious. Is it a new Rob Zombie directed? Did I miss that?

I wish. What's Ed Helms up to now? Oh, I guess he's with Scott Taylor Compton somewhere. I don't know. I think, well, she definitely has found a niche in doing horror. Yeah, of course. Convention. Big time.

Don't knock it if you get it. I'm not knocking it. Put me in your piece of shit movie. I don't care. Yeah. You were knocking it, but not now. So as she drops the keys off, we cut this is the institute. This is the only time we have Udo here in the movie.

It's him and Clint Howard are dealing with Loomis or whatever. Loomis calls the people working at the institute, that army of shirt tuckers. You know me, Sam Loomis famously untucking my shirt at all. Oh, you can see, it's off. It's not even. You have to pull it a litter to the left. You slub.

He's trying to say like a stuffed shirt. I think that's more of the actual colloquialism. Okay, so the light went out in the bathroom. That's my fault, too. And then, of course, Michael Myers, the world's worst killer. Always Udo's fault. Oh, yeah. I'm responsible for changing all the light bulbs out.

Just like maybe I should mop the floor the next day. Oh, what Danny Trejo has been murdered, you'll say. Maybe I will be mopping the floor to be higher some of people. But I'm just saying The overall I don't do these things I like the door at 8th I go home I'm watching Jeopardy by 830

It's fantastic Of course I will not be cleaning up But we get the service And the latest will come in I kind of want Tyler Main All six eight of him To fucking lay the death blow

On Clint Howard Wouldn't that be something That would be pretty much Wouldn't that be something If he just took him And like just kept pushing him Like into the ground And he just kept getting like

Smushed I mean There's a world I mean it might even be a better world if Clint Howard played Wolverine in those X-Men movies because that's more accurate to what he should look like Mr. Hansen-U-Jack

Like a goblin person? Well, it's just like 5-3 or 5-4. You can probably do the Berserker more. Yeah, exactly. He's got all that anger built up. Yeah, we do get Lori's life at school here. Annie Brackett, played by Daniel Harris who's the niece in those four and

five movies. Christina Cleb is Linda. Not much after this movie. And they're getting their plan to for tonight the plan of you got to lie to this parent so you can go take the girl over and I can bang they contextualize their high school life oh yeah the one that's the cheerleader saying let's I was telling them we should flash our snatches yeah because she wants yeah Linda in this movie similarly to PJ Souls is on the cheer squad and yeah she's talking about how yeah she got kicked off the cheer squad because she was like we got to change up these cheers or

whatever she told the squad leader to go fuck herself or something like that and then there like, oh, that guy's watching us. Oh, he's probably just some pervert cruising for school Poon Tank. Hey, freak, you want some of the young Poon? How many times are we saying Poon tank? Is this the 1970s?

Heard of it? I'm curious, have you heard of the 1970s? No, but I intend to read up on it after this record. There was a gas crisis. Oh. That's a VH1 movie about it. It's really bad. so thank God blissfully

Sheriff Brackett shows up here the great Brad Dore one of the people acting in this movie appreciated absolutely he also he's great in the second movie as this he doesn't have much did you hear he kind of gets written out

at a weird way like well because they it's it's a weird place to cut it because you are you it begins with him mourning his daughter in the second one and like you're just like you get some of that and this because like he's like oh my god my kid but isn't annie not dead she's not

no yeah she's not dead she gets killed in the second right she does get killed yeah so he kind of like in the beginning it's like you because it's kind of cool in the second one like he's raising lorry now right she's living with them they both have like survivors guilt things and i think that the second movie one of the good things is it it does a good job of like psychologically contextualizing what a person might be like after or a slasher movie might be not entirely but might be i like linda's line here uh kind of kind of kind of kind of of a drag having a pig as a dad this is pretty funny

and then she's also like you think he wants to fuck me and it's like oh yeah yeah how extreme is this fucking crap you know does anyone talk like this I know everyone in the reviews and iTunes or whatever iTunes I'm an old man Apple podcast app says that about us

but what I don't the cursing the cursing sure we curse we curse less than this movie though Chris I guarantee it So we go to the cemetery where we're redoing this scene, except this time around we got Sid Haig as the cemetery guy, which is pretty cool. I don't know.

Sid Haig should be seen and not heard. I don't mind Singh Haig, but like he's in every one of these zombie movies. He's got a guy. He's got a guy. But I love this. Some doctor wrote a book about it. Blood Bunny. He doesn't know that he's talking to the guy who wrote the book, Luma, it's pretty funny.

I do like, oh, that book was a masterpiece, actually. If I'm saying Haig at that moment, I'm like, oh, then you're the fellow. the gun wrote the book, aren't you? No one else would call it a masterpiece. Oh, hold on. I want you to de-autograph. It could just scratch out your name in the book. They stamped it. And again, because it's so hardcore, it can't just be someone stole the headstone.

They stole the headstone and replaced it with a stick-made crucifix and attached a dead dog to it. And this felt Texas chainsawed away. Yeah, doing like a corpse fucking statue in the graveyard. Yeah, yeah. So a nice difference here, I think, is kind of cool, and it's like, eerie and macabre is that now Linda and Bob, instead of using one of the houses where the babysitting is going on, they actually go to the Myers house to get down. And it's fucking hilarious when they're like, they're going in, and Bob is lamenting that the house is being sold.

Or I think Linda is, and he's like, it's all right, baby, we can find some other house to party. Bob, all right, so here's the thing, Bob. You got your girl, you got this cooler full of beer. Bring the cooler in. Why are we leaving this cooler outside in the fucking pickup truck? Especially after like post-sex, I got like floppy dick running outside. Like, no, I just, I don't want to go touch grass right after that. To keep it cold because it's in a cooler.

There's no, is there a fridge inside? No, but bring the cooler. Oh, the whole thing? Maybe Chris has a point. Maybe it's a bit, then you'd have to ask. Oh, come on. You'd have to ask Linda to carry it with you. No, no, no, no.

Did you see this cooler? It is a one-man operation. It's not one of them big coffin fuckers you bring tailgating. It's just a little cooler. But you just, I agree. I'm bringing this in with me. Not in the room that I'm having sex with, but I'm in the foyer, you understand.

Yeah, we don't need it right next to the mattress. All those shit, just rolling right over, grabbing a beer out of a cooler. I don't know. You're already fucking in an abandoned house. True. But, so they're having sex and really plow town kind of a deal. and he just fucking blasts in her

because you get this a little warning would have been nice fucking joke she's very naive one of the many women that are very very naked just super super naked and again like this is it's almost it's a way less important line so it's not the same as

David Johnson doing get away from her bitch in Alien Romulus but in this movie when she's just like see anything you like I was like, that's the PJ Souls line man and PJ Souls nails it in that movie and Lady Take 4 I guess I don't know, real bad

but Bob goes out to get a beer While she turns on, wouldn't you know it Don't Fear the Reaper Wouldn't you know it? I wish it was break stuff honestly Or did she put it fucking Dragula Totally Get Steven Wright on the radio

saying Super Sounds of the 70s Continue Little green bag You get that going on that? I love Michael I love cool K-Billy SuperSats and it's great. I've heard of the song 20 years, man.

Fucking crazy, man. Just like Michael Myers stabbing someone to put the lime in the coconut, drink it all done. But it would be cool. I actually wouldn't have a problem if she turns on the radio. It's doing it, baby. Yeah, sure. Cool. I think it's a fine song.

Dr. Leverbellier. He's dead. dancing around. That I love that. That I love. But he gets him here. He gets Bob.

Same exact manner as the first movie, except now he's in the upstairs of the Myers house instead of that cool kitchen. And he does the ghost gag with the glasses. Right, which is a good gag in that first one. But here, you know, and here we get lines like, oh, it's Casper the friendly asshole.

And also, hey, Bob, when did you start taking steroids and grow 17 feet? Bob, I had no idea. You were the big show. I had no fucking clue. Yeah. She put on a jacket? She's really not observing what's going on here.

But this is the see-any thing you like. Just the laziest delivery. The tits are out again, the whole thing. And instead of the fucking cool thing from the first movie, if she's getting choked out and on the phone with Lori and Lori thinks it's her fucking around or whatever,

he just chokes her out and kills her and that's the end of it fucking moving. on to Loomis at the gun store, like... Buying guns from Mickey Dolans. Yes, dude, how did Mickey Dolans wind up in this? Hey, man, you got it. The check cleared. Yeah, yeah. It's just like, Rob was like, who can I get to play Gun Store guy?

I wonder if one of the monkeys is available. I do like the... Who's still alive? I do like the idea that immediately, like, he doesn't have, like, his cool or calm, like, the pleasant, Loomis. No, he's like, oh, give me that gun. No, no, that gun. I need the biggest god killer you can find.

No, I've never shot. one. Does it have anything of like a kickback? I do love that Lou, the OG Loomis, the Pleasance Loomis, the Superior Loomis. He had that gun for years. Oh, sure. He didn't need to go to the gun store that very night? Come on. No. What, do I need to go to the Pan Store when I wake up? No, I had a gun. I always have a gun on me. You see, because I was dealing with the devil's eyes. And I knew one day I might have to shoot them the fuck out. You always have to be packing heat around the devil's eyes, you see. I tried to get a priest to bless my bullets, but he wouldn't do it,

Sheriff. He wouldn't do it. I'd had him six times. You get a Spock situation like the J.J. Abrams movie, but for this, with pleasant. Oh, dude. Sheriff, I went into the wormhole. I followed

Michael through the wormhole. What do you mean? You don't have a gun. You have to have a gun. He's in a flying garbage truck and he's coming to your town. he's beaming into your town sheriff he's drilling a hole through the bottom of your town it's going to collapse don't tell me to it didn't happen i saw it happened exactly oh uh i really don't know what's going on what am i supposed to be watching this old man with the bald man is he does he know something oh he's also named sam i've lost the plot spark we have to figure out his family trauma for an hour before we get to anything um oh no these f bombs should be down to two in the morning at absolute most two in the morning

there are gay slurs in your town sheriff there are hellbillies amongst your citizen sheriff oh no i went into the hellbilly dimension oh yeah looks like it's suicide again for me the hellbilly Cube went back in time. Oh, Mr. Data, follow that hell-billy cube back in time. Mr. Data, the whole earth is all hell-billy. Do you hear the Reverend Horton

Heat? Population 7 million, Captain. Confirmation. All hellbilly. Dear Lord, there's three teeth among them. There you, GED in sight. Everyone's calling everyone else a gay slur down there, Mr. Data.

Okay, we'll have to go down and merge and replicator large side birds, hellbilly style. A replicator neck tattoos, please. Now, you have, no, you have the boombox and you start playing Cotton and I Joe. And we get them to start dancing, and then maybe

we got something going here. Let's get some cover-alls for number two. Oh, he'd fit right in. Yeah, he's a big dude. No shirt, Will. No shirt. Shirtless, you see. Yeah, so it's, you know, know, the strode's are giving out candy to trick-or-treaters here, Mrs. Strode and Lori. Mr. Strode comes up, you know, a lot of nutcases come out on Halloween, blah, blah, blah.

She goes off with Danielle Harris. They get picked up there and drive off. And Mr. Strode thinks that he's going to be getting laid on Halloween. And Mrs. Strode is like, you're not getting any of this until we talk about this vacation we're going to take. And, like, before Mr. Strode can even respond one way or the other, Michael just fucking grabs this dude, cuts his door immediately, end of the movie for Bill Scully Jr. One of the better kills of the movie. It is.

It's a rush. Like it's, you don't even see it. It feels like we're cooking with gas now. It is, and the door slam. You don't actually, you don't see Dee Wallace get it. You do see her crawl on the floor and screen. Thank God or else I couldn't be able to shoot. But you don't see I'll actually like not seeing what's going on behind the door

for a minute. Right, but you do see her get killed though. Well, yeah, she's already like cut when we cut when we see her. Well, like he throws her through a table. He gives her the full Matt Foley with that table. And then he breaks her neck in a kind of a central way. That's very Superman-esque. Which is one of the best kills of this movie. Yes. He also, he shows her the picture

of Lori. And she's like, no, you leave my daughter alone, you animal, or whatever. I think Steve was talking specifically in how the kill goes in terms of how he shoots. That's what he was really focusing. You know, similar stuff here. Of course, where babies are hitting Tommy, hey, Tommy, would you like if Lindsay Wallace comes over? What if the boys see, which is very funny. And it's amazing. We're able to have this scene and no one calls this kid gay.

Yeah, it's great. I mean, and this is a better scene because it's like she's saying like, oh, Tommy, you know, the boogeyman is really. He likes to eat little boys like you. Yes. It makes Lori very unappealing to me in that moment because what I like about Lori in the original is she's like, Tommy, there's no such thing as a boogey man. Like, let's get real here.

We're going to make a jackalander. We're going to watch a shitty movie. you're fine they're just teasing that's that's fair this is still a tease but i'm just so happy to see you're not talking about tits or puntaic i agree with eric it's another side of the character it was like one scene out of this whole movie that didn't have it where there's a compassion between two human beings exactly so i guess much like the grand tradition of shit like christmas story and elf running for 24 hours years on end we are just playing fucking uh the thing once again they're just watching the howard hawks thing here

Michael I do like this shot Michael is in the house Watching Lindsay watch it Which is a pretty cool moment He's like standing behind the chair Like watching her And Lori picks her up

And leaves Or right? No Daniel Harris Walk takes them Yes And she's like I'm to break your fucking Pumpkin in the street If you keep this shit up or whatever

She's doing like the K-I-S-I-N-G thing You know And then here it's It was 2007 man George W. Bush was the president of the United States of America. Lori brings Lindsay over to the house. We redo this whole Ben Tramer conversation. And Lori is one, not, again, I like the Lori, the Jamie Lee, like, oh, call him back.

That's embarrassing. I like her being like the shrewish kind of character. It's great. But this is like, oh, she's into it, but then she's like, oh, but isn't he the R word? And Daniel Harris is like, what? Well, he's not short bus our work. Well, you know, this is all back now. Like the Riyadh Comedy Festival saved it for us so we can say it now if you wanted.

But it is just this moment that just it sticks out like a sore thumb. And you realize that's why Joe Rogan voted that way. So he could say it again. We could all say it again. So he could Blair Halloween 2007 out of his living room. I love all those dumb comedians were a one-issue voter. Yes, exactly. That.

Oh, and then the trans slurs. That's it. I don't care if I could vote ever again so long as I can say that word. I don't care if you cut me up and put me in a suitcase as long as I can be using slurs right up to the point where you do it. Oh, God, I hate life.

So yeah, he's not short buzz R word. But so she's into the idea now and like, oh yeah, oh, that's pretty great. Michael's like watching them have this conversation in the house, which is really cool. And then we finally get just a little bit of it. And again, not enough, because there's not enough Loomis nor

Brackett in this movie, but Brackett's pissed off, like, talking shit to Malcolm McDowell here. Like, you created a masterpiece of a monster off the blood in this town. You know, monster sell magazines. Really, you know, giving to him all that stuff. And I do just love, he's got a paperback

copy of the devil's eyes. He still bought it and read it, dude. Sure. He might be in there. He's a blurb in there. It's a New York Times seller. It's a book The New York Times acknowledged was for sale

It was definitely sold 100% was sold But now For everybody that liked The professional For all the wrong reasons Here comes Again she's an adult

It's fine But it's very weird To be like You know the little girl The Needs from the other movie Now you get to see your naked That's exactly what it feels like That's what it's for

That's 100% what this is for And do you know It wouldn't feel that way if it was like a, oh, she's just like getting out of the shower or whatever. Sure, yeah, exactly. This is like extended nudity that you don't really see in a lot of movies. The camera focuses on her chest for a long, long time. It's a lot. It's a lot.

And I'm, you know, I don't shy away from seeing them boobers, but like this is way too much. This is egregious. And the fact that it's a, you know, it's not like a legacy character, but it's a legacy actress. It feels insulting to me. It does. It feels, it's a weird look for this movie. I totally agree. Yeah. But she hasn't come out or anything.

Oh, no, no, no. She actually, no, I was reading something like, she was actually like, you know, she was, she thought it was good because it was like breaking out. Like, I'm not just a little kid anymore. And I totally know. I totally got that. More of the feeling I get from all of this. Well, it's certainly the best way to announce that.

So Brackett, tell a little more about what went on that night. Of course, you know, I was on the case 17 years ago, doctor. I went into that house and just took a look around and then saw a little baby there and just couldn't imagine what that baby. was going through so I stole it you see I went across the state the town line definitely committed a felony or two dropped it off somewhere and then wouldn't you know it my good buddy mr strode adopted that same dang baby that's annoying yeah I did a real dr. Kimberly Shaw if you ever seen Melrose case up mason I went to another town to drop that why did you go pick up a baby from

another town I just like the idea of like hey look at my baby's like all the in all the joints and all the world, baby. You had to walk into mine. God damn you, baby. That was a beautiful baby. I didn't steal it. I just, I just, yeah, I'm so happy for you, Mason. No, Mason, I'm sorry, man. It just looks like another baby that I totally hate for different reasons. No, what I was whispering there was, um, well, I'll be honest, but she was a little bit of an anti-curs. It was a little bit of me trying to speak the devil out of her. So we get, Lori goes to take Lindsay home. She walks back in the house. finds Paul hanged in the foyer with a fucking Jackalander over his head.

I got to say, pretty cool. I liked it, too. I liked seeing him hanging. I actually like, maybe this falls into your Michael looking at things he didn't like, but I like when he walks up and pushes him as well. That's okay, because it's different.

It's not telegraphing the same thing I saw in another movie. You know what I mean? I thought the push was kind of cool. It was nice. Annie, or is it Annie? Annie is on the floor. Naked, of course.

Naked as a thing she was bored. Also, you know. She was covered in blood days. I would imagine. But again, here is alive. You'd think at this point, man, we'd put a forearm over in hip- but it is still just titacular throughout this whole

magazine presents Halloween 2007. Yes, exactly. So this is going on. Lori calls 911. Brackett hears the call over the radio. Oh, fuck me. God damn it. He's like, oh, we're 10 minutes out.

Does a cool little Ui here on the streets of Haddonfield. and this is when Michael starts to menace her attacks Lori goes back to the Doyle it's the same thing we hide in the fucking bathroom in this one and I looked at this point

20 minutes left of this movie it should be seven yeah it's the fake out that is trying it's the fake out is trying to give you like oh this ain't your mama's Halloween but it's also like I had my coat on and I especially if you've been watching

the two hour cut like I am tired of this movie also like you know having your final scene take place in an empty swimming pool pretty cool yeah I thought that's where we're gonna end it so they're fighting around there's some cool stuff with the cops like there's a cop outside the door he gets janked by Myers

she's like is the guy gone and the guy's like you stupid girl there's no one out here immediately just unlocked the dot and I like the shot of Michael bursting through that door afterwards as well dude I love the glass there for the bathroom door you see that like

office buildings with the frosted glass. Yeah, pretty cool little. But yeah, breaking through that pretty sweet. Then he kills another cop in the hallway who shoots him like the shoulder and he just rushes and stabs. And it was like great, I'm finally seeing what I wanted to. Like this is a door knob, you understand.

I know no one here likes you, no one treats you well. You don't have to walk through these things. You can just if you grasp this and you turn it, you understand, Mikey, you'll open the door. You used to use these all the time, Mikey. I know you did. Before we met, I know you use doorknobs all the time, Mikey. Sheriff, I said he could ask me anything.

He never asked about doorknobs. He should have. He never admitted he didn't know how to use a doorknob, sheriff. The blackest eyes, the dumbest eyes. I didn't look at his, I didn't look at the housing correctly. There were no doors in his house. That house had no doors. Every single door was missing.

It was just open everywhere. Of course. Why my eyes and ears prick up during this cop massacre right here is because it's different. I'm like, oh, cool, here's some characters that haven't been here. Illinois State Massacre. I mean, this is

maybe the best sequence of the movie when he's killing these cops and the bathroom thing. They die pretty cleanly too. It's not like, oh, but my mother has diabetes and she won't, oh God, she'll miss me, please no. My wife's at labor right now, no. I'll never get to see that Poon Dang again.

I'm going to call you Gaislip before I die. Please. Tell my wife, I said, F Faf, Faf, Fah, Fah. Tell my wife, I think her son is a Fah Fah. A very nice man, is which I meant. That's, of course, what he meant, right? Hadfield's finest man.

My Fafa favorite. So, yeah, once the kind of, cops are killed at this point. He grabs Lori and, like, books it. He's like King Kong at this point. There's nothing to scale. Where... Am I to understand that this dirtbag Myers residence

has got a swimming pool on the property? Hello. The rich kid. That's too bad. The rich boy, exactly. Clean that shit out. Fill it up. I mean, if I had one of those, I wouldn't be torturing animals.

Totally. I'd be out having fun, swimming. Yeah, I didn't have a pool, so I did torture them. I mean, it's like, you know, it's close to downtown, it's got the pool. I mean, like, it checks a lot of boxes for us. I don't know, that upstairs bathroom's a little small. Can't really kill two cops and that. Well, back when Zombie and Forsyth were in it, I mean, they didn't really have, I mean,

she had a job, but just barely. Oh, yeah. Housing was fine, but jobs weren't really doing well at the time. It's reminded me of something I kind of like about Halloween kills, which I do think is better than this, is that the gentrification happens, which. Well, again, there's one line about it, but then Lori's like, look about tits! Because again, like, the hardware store is a gentrification line in this movie, but we have to talk about tits instead. It's also interesting, too, that, like, in this, you, she walks there from her house, so it's in the same neighborhood, right?

It's weird that, like, in 89 or wherever this movie starts, you've got, like, the hellbillies living in Haddonfield in this very neighborhood. Yes. But in the present day, it is, like, more. more quote-unquote upstanding, you know, quote-unquote model families living everywhere. You think when they were like the new mayor came in, there was a new kind of a soft policy, like with somebody who's getting, applying for a house, they would put an H on there if they were a hell-billip. Yeah, a little hell-billet. Yeah, you got a studded jacket and bigger sunglasses than I'd like to see to be quite honest. Every time he addressed his wife, he started

the sentence with fucking bitch, just going to put a little H on that application. Those weren't sideburns. Those were full mutton jobs. There's a difference. When he left the meeting, he told me to not fear the Reaper. I don't know what that's about, just going to mark a little H there on the old application.

I think it's going great. It looks like we're applying for a home. They're biased as hell, billies. I mean, shut up, you bitch. Yeah, you bitch. I'll scuck. Fuck your fucking brain. out or something, that's right, bitch.

More human than human, more human than human. Captain, I've flattened spot. Get some grease. Get some grease from my baldness. Where's my fucking dinner whore? Yes, oh, I could do a hellbilly impression. Just attach that

fake ponytail at the back of my bald head. Now it's a skullet, you understand. Now, Will, when you put your leg up in your iconic way, could you have your pee-p-foppy cock fall out to be a little more hellbillish? And then you go, Oops, what are you looking at, whore? Listen, we have to fit in.

You have to, every sentence ends with whore now. Now bring me my chicken fried. Is it steak? It's a steak. A steak. We want a chicken fried steak here. Chicken fried steak, Mr. Data. These pigs are fascinating.

We have to find Zephrin Cochran. He was kind of a hellbilly. The hellbilly Zephram Cochran is hellbilly Zephram Cochring. Yes. That's badass. We can identify him from his cock ring captain. Just find it in the pile of edge. Yeah, the first contact, the Vulcans bring them toothpaste.

Exactly. That's the revolution. It's not warp drive. I love that. No, just plain old toothpaste. They'd been missing it. Some of them have five whole teeth now. So whatever, man.

She wakes up in the Myers house and this is a whole to-do. Well, it's, uh, Lumas shoots him in the pool, you understand. Yeah. And then we, he brings her back to, right? Oh, no. He brings her. She wakes up in the house. Oh, that's right.

Linda's dead. We have to do the whole. Oh, that's right. Tombstone. He shows her the picture like, family. Thank God he doesn't speak. But you can tell he wants. Close enough.

There's the headstone. He's got a full on jackal lantern and this candle still lit. At least he decorated. He's trying to make it fun. The season. She's got to see the picture. I mean, come on now. And she's like, I don't know.

I don't know them. She's talking to him like she doesn't know if he speaks English, which is kind of funny. But he takes off the mask. He fucking kneels down. I want to help you, but I don't know how. And then she stabs him. Yeah, she got to grabs that. It's a cool thing.

Not bad. And she, you know, escapes out the basement door and falls into this empty pool right into the deep end, man. That's a fucking tumble. Ouch. Big time, outchy, ouchy, outy. Reminded me, anybody to catch that movie on Shutter the pool or it's called pool or something. It's about a guy who kind gets himself in this exact same situation

but instead of Michael Myers blocking his way out of the empty pool, it's like an alligator or something shit. And he's just like stuck there. I was thinking about that other haunted swimming pool movie that sucked. Oh, like night swim or something. I was thinking of 8mm when Nick Cage pushes that guy into the pool. Oh, right. That also

yeah, that's another empty pool situation. I was also kind of thinking about Encino Man when they're digging a pool. Oh, wow, yeah. Now Michael Myers, yeah, he's a dude that would dig a big hole and swim around in the muck. He just needed Polly Shore to show him how to munch. I think so. Because without Pauly Shore, that Brandon Fraser there could have been a Michael Myers.

That's true. Put the knife down, buddy. We're going to go to the 7-Eleven. They have a bean burrito. It's a lot of fun. Absolutely. Can't treat women like that, buddy. Can't be doing that.

Watching Michael Myers with the mask on, like, getting the fucking frosty in his mouth or whatever directly from the pipe. The slushy. Getting it all over the mask. I see, yeah. Where's the juice? Where's the juice? Michael's just munching on some grindage. Fucking great.

But, yeah, so this is, Michael, it's me, Samuel. Oh, I'm for sure killing him. I've been waiting all year for that. This guy. He shoots him at least six times here. He does. He really nails him. He doesn't want to, which is kind of cool.

He's like, no, but don't make me do it. Michael just drop the go. I need to write another book, Michael. Stop it. If the sauce material dies, so does my series of books. No. It's too early for podcasts, Michael.

It's far too early for podcast. That's for the next remake of this movie. Kevin Smith is putting out his first episode literally in six months from now. Michael, hold off. So he falls down. Loomis gets her out of the pool. And you, you, because they also,

they fucking do it, man. They get in the goddamn cop car. Was that the boogeyman? I do believe that it was. End your movie instead of Michael breaking through the window and there's another 15 minutes. One last scare again and again and again. It's not even one of it.

And it's even worse because it's more cat and mat. It was like he pulls her out and then like there's some big crescendo here. That would be like oh shit I didn't see that big but no, just the temperature drops. He like, this is the weird. I think it was like he wanted

to do the badass thing of like what would happen if I killed Loomis? But then it was like, maybe we shouldn't kill him as if we get it too. Because he is doing the Jason Voorhe's thumb to the eyeballs. So he's dead, right? No, he comes back. No, he's stupid as fun. It's incredibly stupid.

Does he have any eyes in that? No, he's in this movie. In this movie, he's still crawling around with eyeballs. It kind of doesn't make sense. Like, why would Michael stop? I think in the work print cut, he actually does die. And I believe that's how I first saw. That's how we saw it.

I see. That makes sense. But I think to what you're saying, though, whenever he's crawling around, that's director's cut stuff. Oh, really? After he gets his eyeballs, I thought he was just gone. You see Michael dragging him back into the house and he's just kind of on the floor

and that's the end of it. So in the director's cut, he definitely opens his eyes. You see that he's got two beautiful blue eyes. And like, as he's going to get Lori, he like grabs onto his leg and he just sort of shuffles him off. Okay. Oh, no, I don't believe there's any leg grabbing. I think you kind of maybe see his face, but I don't

believe that there's a leg grab. Now, this sequence takes four fucking ever. And just walking around this house. It's up in the fucking creepy. This also isn't really an atmospheric movie. Not at all. There's no tension to this. You're just waiting to get done with it. Well, he's just that now he's like slamming it

with a fucking two by four like the ceiling bit. Oh yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not even going to go up there. He's just trying to like knock her down which I guess eventually does happen. She falls through. It'd be a kind of a raptor fell out of there. How did that happen? Holy fucking shit. You know what?

Truce. Game over. That's fucking weird. Oh no, the Raptor's getting them. I'm sorry. Michael, I know you're very powerful, but I think the Raptor's got you. So she finally gets her hands on Loomis's gun. I think this is the part where you where you sort of realize Loomis is back in the house

and the theatrical cut because the guns there's like, oh, it's Loomis's gun. She grabs it. We're upstairs. She's trying to shoot this gun off. He tackles her out the window. So now we get the going out the window to land on the ground. Right. And she does the click. click click finally on the fourth try shoots this dude presumably in the face yes you see the blood splatter on her that's right yeah she screams and that's those are the credits for us is that how it ends

yes yeah it's a little texas shades out here too right you know the cutting on this the scream is still happening you cut off audio and video at the same time the dude has seen the movie yeah several thousand times a couple of times well it's so funny because like house of a thousand corpses is more or less like part two yeah yeah Yeah. Because it's like a fun house kind of, it's the same sort of deal. A very weak attempt to do number two. Dude loves those Texas chainsaw movies.

But that is the end of this movie. Go around the horn here for some final thoughts and possible recommendations. I know where we're going with this first one. I know you're going to call on me first. God damn. I usually do. I just think this is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I think the same of the sequel.

I just don't like Robert Zombie. I still need to see two. credit, I do need to see Devils Rejects and Lords of Salem. I never did. I think you might like the vibes, dude. I didn't like any of his other movies. I tried that Monsters. Oh, no, no, no. I did try that monster. You don't like that one,

Chris? No, no, you shouldn't have done that. I'm 100. I turned that one right off. I didn't get through it. I walked out and I was at home. I mean, but the driveway for the rest of the runtime. No, I got through like 40 minutes of that before I noped out. I just, he's not for me. I know. Eric, I meant specifically for you, I would have never told

you to watch the month. Even as Rob Zombie Hater, my God. Why even walk into that? I like the monsters, dude. Well, sure. The OG monsters, you know, those were fun dudes. But the old TV shows that get turned into the movies, they don't really ever transfer over well, do they? They don't, but I kind of like that dark shadows when it came out.

I need to go back to that Tim Burton one. Maybe it's not as good. But I, anyway, so to get back to this movie. Sure. I, you know, I think I've already said everything that I like a few performances. Brad Durf, I think is a shining star here. um hell yeah um lumis is fine some of the kills some of the moments but

i just cannot deal with the dialogue and it's like you can definitely do some hellbilly stuff you can definitely say profanity you can definitely throw some boondang around but i just feel like it needs to be done with a little more finesse than mr robert zombie a little poon tang for the tablepiece i could eat that all day with the chili sauce no yeah on the side uh chris cabin

I would say watch it I think it's a good movie I think it's a good take on this I think the problem is like a lot of like any of these movies like you just get tangled up in comparing it to the original and like I just

to me that's not what I did at least not this time when I watched it and I think on its own it's a good movie it's doing what it wants to do very well I think I would disagree with a lot of the things that he the lot of things that have been said

that he thinks are cool in this movie, I would disagree with. I don't think he thinks he's badass. I think he thinks this is genuinely sad. I think he thinks this is genuinely. Like, this kid was in a shitty situation and he turned into a horrible monster. And I think he means that genuinely,

but also has his, you know, it's two things setting against each other. Like, he also wants to have fun with a horror movie. So, like, you have these two things hang against each other, it's not perfect. Once we, the screaming stuff has got to fucking go. That shit was horrible. I mean, that's, I mean, I hate fucking torture porn in general.

So that part of this always, I'd never liked it. Right. But I like the ending. I like all this stuff with the kid. I just, yeah, I have an admiration for this film. There you go. Steve, say that. I strongly dislike it.

I always have. I always will. And I'm shocked that I really like the second one. I think the second one is a really great. Like I said, like a cool horror. It's not even and I got it, by the way. It is like a total like $1.19. You know what I mean?

It almost comes back the other way. It's so extremely different than the first. one, at least for me. I just, yeah, the torture point stuff, the screaming really bugs me. I'm not a big fan of exploring the mythos. I think, like, you know, where I guarantee it, we are

two to three years out from a fucking we're getting another Halloween at some point, I would imagine. And I would guess we might go back to Remake Town. Somebody else might try this guy. Yeah, get somebody else in here. Which I would much rather just do a new one. Just you know, because I didn't Halloween. To that point, I liked Halloween

ends. Yeah. Most people didn't. I don't think you guys did not. I like it. I've come around to it. I like the David Gordon Green, the first David Gordon Green. And I like the idea of doing a sequel, but I also think you can be a little less beholden. Just put Michael in another situation.

You know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to be this big mythology. I mean, you can keep it the mythology, do your best. But I think that everyone bends over backwards. I think that's why I think we're going to go back to Remakeville, which I think is probably a bad idea. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't care for this. and I kind of never did I guess but I think yeah part of it is I think it's a wasted opportunity because like here you go here's a dude that's like you know I'm being facetious but like the dude has seen every horror movie like the guy knows horror inside and out

there could have been something that and again I know also that a lot of this movie was fuzzled with by the studio I mean Harvey aside from being a fucking convicted rapist and piece of shit person was also a major meddler and sometimes for the betterment of a film and oftentimes also for not

and I think this is an interference thing so I can't all toss it all on him but like you have this opportunity to remake it do something that is not beholden so hardcore to that lore because it just feels like I'm just watching a more white trash version of something that I watched already in light and I can't

separate myself from it. I would say if you're going to do lore now with Michael Myers get nutty with it do the cult of Thorne yeah totally bring it that way something kind of new in a way because we haven't seen it that much but I just don't think they're going to do that. I mean, like, this thing runs on fandoms and the thing that fandoms want is to be able to recall the thing they know about. They want to be able to do

that. And I don't see how you get away from that, unless you have somebody who's really daring and makes a pitch that sounds really good without that stuff. But I think it's a PR person who is going to be in the room is always going to be like, well, get rid of the Lord. Well, that's half the people who are coming here for. I definitely see what you're saying, Chris. It's just really depressing to me that like once I became an adult culture stopped. Sure. And it's just repeating the same thing. We get one new movie every three years.

To be fair. That's fair. This has been actually a pretty good year for movies. Thank you, Warner Brothers, almost single-handedly. I think there's every year there's a bunch of great new movies. But I mean, we just don't get to see that. Of the tent poles, of the genre. We're talking about big studio.

Yeah, that's all. It's been, yeah. Yeah. But that is going to do it on this episode. of Robert Zombies 2007 Halloween remake if you want more we hate movies including commercial free episodes just like the one you have heard right now you can head over to the patreon patreon.com slash we hate movies is that URL and yes on top of ad-free versions of this show we have a family of side shows that we put out every month

including a we love movies episode that is out this month on a movie that we've mentioned a lot over this episode of course the original texas chainsaw massacre from 1974. That was a lot of fun to finally talk about. The best. You know, a perfect movie that we can also sort of bust on. You know, I think people listen to this might think I would not like Texas Chainsaw, but I think it's brilliant. I love that movie, so there you go. You're getting a little scary, kind of.

Kind of sort of, the toxic crusaders cartoon. Because you know it would make a great cartoon? A Lloyd Kaufman property. That's what I think. Did they do one for Mother's Day, too? They did not. That's weird. Okay, that's interesting. We got crazy with it back of the day.

That's amazing. Absolutely. Once in a lifetime, we are doing a not a lifetime movie. We are doing the Smurl version of the Ed Lorraine Warren story from the most recent conjuring. This one is called The Haunted. 1991. It's on YouTube. It was a Fox TV movie.

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Mentary, Part 2 is now out on the Patreon as well. You can get that guy. That, a whole lot more folks over Patreon.com slash we hate movies now. Steve Sadek next Tuesday, the Halloween spooktacular continues with which motion picture being discussed. I take full responsibility for this because I fucked everybody over by accident by putting the wrong movie in the Big Daddy Dispatch and we're doing it anyway. We were going to do a movie and I said, Al, let's do something else. And I was like, let's do 13 ghosts instead. And Andrew was like,

that's a good idea, but I have a better one. He did have a better one. I won't say now. And everyone agreed it was a better idea. And then I forgot to change it, but it's still 13 ghosts. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I cannot wait to revisit this trash pieces. I will say the other thing that I had selected was a late 90s early odds turn of the century horror. I've been kind of becoming fascinated with that era of

horror recently as far as like finding trash. So to be because it's the remake right? 13 ghosts yes. Yeah we're not doing the William Cashel. I was going to say. No no no no no okay. Shannon Elizabeth, uh, F. Marie Abraham Matt Lillard, Matt Lillard is in it. Uh, uh, Mbeth

Davis among other people. Tony Shalub is also in it's a ghost glasses going on if I'm not mistaken. Yes, we're looking through glasses and we can see ghosts and why. So until next week when we all put on our ghost glasses, I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen said Eric That's good. Chris Gavin, take it easy.

Thank you.