We Hate Movies - S16 Ep829: Rear Window (1954, W❤️M)

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

“It looks amazing.” - Eric on the production design On this week’s episode, we’re kicking off We ❤️ Movies Month with a ridiculously silly discussion about Alfred Hitchcock’s masterful peeping tom thriller, Rear Window! How gorgeous and meticulous is this set design? How hilarious is Raymond Burr’s dye job? How on earth is L.B. Jefferies ignoring Lisa’s advances this much, murderous neighbor or no? And where in New York can we get this Lobster Thermidor dish for crying out loud? PLUS: Coming soon to Peacock, the new Hitchcock Universe mash-up show, Hitchrock! Rear Window stars James Stewart, Grace Kelly, Wendell Corey, Thelma Ritter, Judith Evelyn, Ross Bagdasarian, Georgine Darcy, Sara Berner, Frank Cady, Jesslyn Fax, Rand Harper, Irene Winston, Havis Davenport, and Raymond Burr as Lars Thorwald; directed by Alfred Hitchcock. This episode is sponsored by Sonos! Do you want studio quality sound at home? Then check out Sonos speakers, soundbars and more at Sonos.com, and discover how easy it is to build your own whole home audio system. Don’t wait, check out Sonos.com today! Don’t sleep on snagging your tickets to our 15th Anniversary show this December where we’re talking all things Arnold in Total Recall! It’s gonna be a gas and we wanna see you there! Click through for tickets now! Be sure to pick up our digital show on Terminator: Dark Fate, available now in our Patreon shop! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

Hey gang, shout out to Sonos for sponsoring today's episode on Rear Window. Discover just how easy it is to bring every room in your house to life with Sonos. Explore their wildly great lineup of speakers, soundbars, and more at Sonos.com, and I'll be back to tell you more about them later in the episode. This week on the program, it's a movie about a well-to-do old white guy who turns down sex with his supermodel girlfriend to spy on his neighbors like a real creep. It's Rear Window. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek.

Rear Eric Siska. A C.M. Cabin. And we love movies. Hello everyone. Welcome to We Love Movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. We are at the start of November, which means, we are firmly now in We Love Movies Month. The Tuesday programming is all great shit, including today, 1954's rear window directed by Al Hitchcock. Do you think anyone ever called him, Al? And he was like, don't. I think it's a quick do. Big fan. Al. Step back a bit, will you please? Welcome to Big Fat Al's movie Emporia. He strikes me as a guy that wouldn't even talk to someone like me, right?

Oh, no. Yeah, he just walk away. I don't think so. Get off my dick, area. I don't, I can't imagine if Al Hitchcock was, you know, you move him up to this time period. I don't think he's going to fan expo and just standing in front of a step and repeat. Yes, $50 a picture. Well, I'm getting a picture with Hitchie Dick.

Come on. Oh, cool Freddie Kruger t-shirt. Yes, come in for a photograph, I guess. Here it's me and Doug Bradley. Another night in Pittsburgh. Yes, it's Pinhead and fucking Butterball. Back together again. Well, yes, Jeff.

Of course, I would love to do a remake of I Confess. And, of course, there's a lot more things they have to confess these days, don't they? Oh, Lord. Sweet Butterball, yeah, people would confuse him for Butterball. Could you sign my Cenobite merchandise? Once again, I was not in that picture. I'm aware of the classic film Real Window by any chance.

He's known for his cameos. Remember him in Hellraiser's Butterball? No, no. Now I'm just picturing that he's in Hellraiser, but it's just Hitchcock in a suit doing the cameo, and it's like Uncle Frank's getting flesh torn off his body, and he's in the corner of the attic, like, stacking a bookshelf like mine that's gross now i'm imagining like it's just a sad

alfred hitchcock in an orange vertigo t-shirt and the t-shirt isn't even printed terribly well you know oh absolutely i got a discount because the printer at the mall smudged the t-shirt well yes i'm not going to touch you because of sexual harassment claims to his face but really it's just because you're probably diseased yeah he needs a floating shoulder hands like nobody else's hitch more than most I learned how to take a public photograph from my good friend and collaborator, Keanu Reeves. He was in the remake of To Catch a Thief with me.

Yes, you're right not to watch it. That could be a Hitchcock title, like The Floating Hand. Totally. Probably a short. Yeah, so this movie, I mean, you know, where to begin? This is one of three movies he did with Grace Kelly.

One of four he did with James Stewart. Apparently Stewart's favorite, if I'm a beast to be believed. Because he was probably, you know, I'm sitting down the whole time. Did that man who knew too much. I got to fucking run all over the place. I did like push around those queers and rope, but

it's mirror window for me. It's being a rope, it looks like one of these apartments was the one from rope. Like, wait, what's that? That fellow looks a lot like me. What he's giving those queer guys some guff? Hitchcock in the modern day dude, he would be like, oh my God, do you think

when you go to watch rear window, if you look up in the corner, do you think that that's Brandon's apartment from rope? I don't believe in a cinematic universe. I think you're the dumbest fucking person who's ever talk to me about one of my movies. No, really. How do you fit Manny into it even? What the fuck is your problem?

Now I'm thinking of like a Hitchcock Castle Rock or something. And you do all the shit in the same movie. Whoever has the rights, has said no to that at least one. Of course. Well, that's what's nice is his shit is like kind of scattered across multiple companies. Most of it, a lot of the big heavy hitters are at Universal. but like you can keep it scattered so we don't have hitchrock or whatever what a terrible idea for a show

to Bates Motel's the kind of thing the rope guys go into the Bates Motel well that's the thing right like that Bates Motel show is the closest we've kind of come to that and I watched the first like two episodes and it was a really brisk thanks but no thanks no no need to do that no need to set up a situation where the thief from to catch a thief is like accidentally taking the fake jewels from rear window and then

has to like find the actual jewel like I don't need that shit breaks in and he's like oh my god it's costume jewelry yeah and then the next day you the next episode Carrie Grant's back again no it's Roger Thorne Hill I'm just running away from James Mason oh how could I run away

why I might be a stranger on a train yay! Hitch Rock has been canceled immediately Chris Cross I go into your movie you come into mine I love this I mean I haven't seen this in a real long I'm sure I saw it as a teenager at some point

but it's got to be 25 years That's where you learned all your skills Yeah How to Creepin' How to Creepin's Yeah it had been a minute I have I have the three volumes Of his like the big universal titles on 4K

And this is one of them So I have gone back to this At least in the last like two years or so Since I bought that But this is I would say for me like top five hitch I just love it yeah I for me I kind of like

when he moves out like I I have a newfound respect for this one with first go at this one it was not one of my favorites but now especially I think what I really came to respect is a script I think the script's incredible yeah and the stuff that they pack into it now but like this and that's what really came

across this turn with it but I am more of a Marnie Vertigo those are my big heavy hitters for me. The fucking set in this. The fact that they built this all at the Paramount Live, and it looks amazing. And the movie costs only $1 million, I think it's almost 12 now for inflation.

But yeah, I'm not counting the marketing budget. Maybe it's not profitable after all. But you can't sneeze without spending 12 millions now. And the set is, I love the staginess of this, like actually caring about set design and how

the camera's going to move and yada yada. It just to be the oldest guy in the room Like yeah You can't get that with green screen You can't like you know what I mean Like when people are at a bar And they're just sitting in a green screen bar You can feel it

As opposed to sitting in a set with depth It was created by a machine You can tell you can just I'm sorry everybody can tell That's the benefit of you know Like having seen a movie like this a thousand times You know I don't have to like look at What I'm supposed to be looking at

And I can kind of like explore visually And I love like in like on the corners of this movie when you are looking at some of these apartments and you see, like, there's that bar. Yes. And you only see, like, a bit of the bar, but, like, it's people.

And there's, like, an actual bar with stools and tables and people have to actually sit their fucking fat ass down to get caught on camera. You know what I mean? And, like, the way he utilizes it once, like, Miss Lonely Hearts goes there for her date, like, once. And that's it, but, like, it's there. And it feels so alive.

This feels like, to me, it doesn't feel like a set. Like, it feels. It feels like a straight up, you're filming this, in one of those New York, we have a, you know, a shared courtyard because all of the backs of our buildings come up together. It's not an actual nice upper west side courtyard kind of thing. We should say he does live downtown Manhattan. Yes, Greenwich Village, I think. And there's all those extras going by. Oh, yes.

Non-stop. West Seventh area, I think he says. Yeah, yeah. Do you think Hitchcock took that bar, like Nathan Fielder took the crocodile lounge and, like, he had it as like Hitch's bar that he would just move around with him? Welcome to Hitch's bar. I would love it. Was Nathan Fielder? Did he keep up the, the free pizzas when that was going on?

I think wherever, at least in the second season, he moves that bar into the airport that he builds as well. Like, he's keeping that bar set. So I'm just kind of hoping that Hitchcock did the same. Well, that's, I mean, it goes back to a belief, like a belief that like every part of frame matters. Like, it can be alive. Every part of your frame is live.

And like, just to go, I mean, what's, Paul Schrader just had a whole thing. It was like, well like, yeah, it sucks to have to get like people to be in like, like, why not use AI to put things in the corner of the frame? Because it's going to look like shit. If you care about your movie not looking like shit, don't do that. I'm going to draw my attention away from

the thing you actually want me to be paying attention to it because I'm going to be like, that's a fake thing that I can't, it's there. I can't fucking not look at it. Sometimes Paul needs a nap I think. Just like, don't worry about it, okay. It's also like, I mean, don't give these people a fucking inch. You saw Kevin O'Leary piece of shit

shark tank shark tank guy who's in all the bald guy whose wife ran over a person with a boat and then nothing happened yeah the murderer's husband coming this fall from hitchcock productions the murderer's husband no he's also in marty supreme and he's like oh it was a great movie blah blah blah blah I don't know why we had all these extras he's probably wasted millions of dollars when we could have just used AI we could have used a million tilly norwoods and I'm like I despot get out of my world can we edit him out of that movie I was just going to say so that guy the bald guy from Shark tanks and fucking Marty Suprius. He's like a major supporting group. Really, wow. Guess which brother now officially has the better fucking movie this year? Are you kidding me? People love that one.

I'm excited to see my really excited. I wanna see it, but yeah, a lot less now. I despise that guy. He's the worst. And I mean, like, we just can't like, with Schrader, I'm sure like he's like, oh, you know, for me, I want to do it this way. I could probably make a movie for less money, et cetera,

but don't come out for this shit. You know what I mean? Like, don't give these people an inch. Nope. So another thing I love about this movie is aside from the opening moments where the drapes, what the fuck am I saying? Blinds are coming up. It's the only time you have any kind of a score.

And then after that, it's all just dietic. So any music you hear, it's just from the other apartments. I fucking love that. Piano, man. Yes, and that's why you write in a musician. It's very, very smart. It's so smart. And it doesn't even feel like cheap.

You know what I mean? You're just like, it's New York City. Of course there would be a musician And of course Like you know Like it makes me think In our old building Here in New York

We had someone who was a saxophonist And I would just have the windows open A saxophone player Thank you I was like what I'm sorry I had to derp it down I thought that was like One of those master of sex people

Doing all kinds of weird shit up there Experimenting and documenting It's a specialist of the saxophone It's a dude he would play a saxophone On the afternoon And then time himself to see how fast he could jerk off And then he'd rip apart his apartment afterwards and look for the bugs.

Exactly. Well, I mean, and also, I mean, the view from his apartment, all of these are like views of his own life or views of where his life might be going. It's, you know, are you going to become the married couple who's up there who fucking sleeps on the goddamn catwalk? Yeah. Are you going to go with, are you going to go

for, look for a woman like the dancer, the pink dancer? Are you going to be alone like the piano player and like still try to figure out, you know, just musing your own stuff and become an alcoholic, I guess. Or the artist, and you're fine with being alone. You're doing with being alone.

That's how we open this with Jeffrey's trying to, like, figure out what everyone's doing. And you're right, Chris. And it's just funny that, like, a 46-year-old man is like, oh, I wonder what I'm going to be when I get old. It's about time to make a decision. What is maid or nurse calls up a young man. I'm a young man. And I had to do one of those things.

Was he? Because, you know, it's a movie from the film. He's like, is he 29? Like, did I, did I fuck this up? No, no. He was at least 46. Yeah. But still, I mean, you guys are 42 and I'm 41.

Yeah. And we look way better. And it's only a four-year-old. Like, my God, he just looks like my grandfather. Well, we didn't serve a W-W2 either. Absolutely not. And, you know, we've had a glass of water or two in our four decades on this planet. Any vegetables, you know.

And he's not like an ugly, he was a very handsome guy. But, like, he just looks so. so old in this movie. Eating, it's not only the not eating as much vegetables, it's also both the smoking and the eating of the cigarettes. That's true. Towing down on them cigarettes. You know that was just life back then.

Oh yeah, I've got to eat a pack of cigarettes for a lunch. It's, we start, yeah, we see the great tableau of all all the people, like there's the the old, the artist woman and all this stuff and like the, the dancer needs to be talked about. Mistorso. A weird

nickname. Yeah, that's the only part. I'm going to need after I vivisect her. Is it the Mulvey coined male gaze after this movie? Or at least it's in that assay? It's mentioned in the assay. I don't know if it was the inspo, but definitely. And yeah. You get her ass real quick. We do see a cat

real. Oh, did she get a cat in there? Yeah. No, no. At the start of the movie, there's a cat in the courtyard. So we got pussy and then we get ass. Exactly. When we gaze at Miss Torso, though. I have to say in 1954, I was pretty shocked. She's topless. And you get that full back and you see her

putting the top on, I was like, my God, this must have flew some top hats off. Dude, small of the back back then, dude, people would bust over that. It's artistically necessary. It gives you so much to the viewer and oh my gosh. You hear about Jaws when people are like getting scared

and like, what was like dying in the theater apparently, right? People were busting when they saw this. It was a total surprise too because you didn't see it coming. It's just involuntary bust. You're just watching like all these. like hands and the you see this and you

hold it in and you go to like the nasty fucking theater where they're playing the XXXX exploitation stuff and you're just like okay finally I could jerk off here they're gonna fucking get me at the paramount they'll fucking get me out of there immediately at XXXX fucking theater especially out

I'll be fine well that's why everyone wore raincoats back then you just might bust overcoats in general you got a lot more room to conceal that Exactly. And, you know, because they're layered because it's a raincoat, it won't go to the other side and, you know, reveal the accident, if you know what I'm saying. And you can just throw it in the garbage and it's like, yeah, Jeff, we got like 17 raincoats in the garbage now. That's how Morty Seinfeld was so successful in the raincoat business, man.

Caught a lot of loads today. Exactly. Jeffries needs to be a little cooler about how he's looking at Mr. Torso with his girlfriend at least. Like, because he's just like, oh, look that Miss Torso over there. She got all these boyfriends. You have to be like, oh, that piano player. Then there's the angry couple. And she's like, what about the woman? Well, I guess there is a woman over there. Oh, what did you know?

How about that? I guess she's doing lunges in the window. Just assume that apartment was totally vacated. I guess my eye has never drawn to that window sufficiently. Get away from that raincoat, will you, dear? Lisa, get away from that raincoat. I haven't looked through her thighs. I mean, the window today.

I haven't done that today. Just looking at her out the window. If only there was a way I could be a fan of her. If I could be the only fan of hers I could have got exclusive views at the window I'd pay like four or five dollars a month I have a camera you could use You could be a camera girl of sorts

This is the first only fan I invented only fans Broke my leg invented only fans I was the only fan of hers I find that hard to believe I feel like she's put on a show for a lot of people And that's the interesting thing because the movie is shot like mostly entirely

from the perspective of his window. You don't really know who's above him, who's below him. No. None of that. So we don't know who's looking that way. And also Raymond Byr doesn't know that he's, you know, next door or two doors down or whatever from this tour. So he can't see. But there are people that can, you know who can see? The musician.

Yeah. That guy can see. The composer guy, he knows what's going on. Also crazy. And this is no screens. Like, everyone just open to the element. I guess the idea is because it's hot. That's a nice narrative. of contrived. It's hot out so you have your windows open. You don't have air conditioning yet. They might not have even had screens yet, or at least not in these

types of apartments. Because you'd always hear about babies jumping out every day. Well, that's why, yeah, even now when we renew our lease, part of it is like, do you have a person who's under age 10 in the house? If so, the law says you need these, like, window

guards are our Clapton claws, we call it. Lisa, there's a few more babies jumping out windows if you want to get along. Hey, Lisa, it's raining babies. Oh, that sexy ladies. Oh, no, there's another baby. Oh, God.

Oh, baby just went by in the window. Don't go, don't go out front. They're mopping up another baby. There were two this morning. Oh, that little Pomeranian is eating all those babies. Hey, Raymond Bear, the dog's digging up all your babies. Oh, man. So is this all, I forgot to look at it, but is this when he's, and we're, like, meeting all the neighbors.

Is this one shot? It feels like it is. Because it comes into the cast. Here lies the broken bones of L.B. Jeffries. Yes. And going over his photos and everything is very interesting. The one of the race car breaking apart, that's how he broke his legs. It's pretty crazy.

And you see the camera all like in pieces. Yeah. He's L.B. Jeffries. And everybody, like the way people had names back then, like, oh, everybody calls me Jeff. My last name's Jeff. I'm like, really? Yeah. You're in the first name.

I'd be shocked if I knew this dude. And I'm like, oh, Jeff. I don't know who's last name. Jeff. No, no, it's Jeffries. We call him Jeff. I was even getting confused while watching the movie right now because I was like, they're calling him all right.

Jeffreys is the last name. I mean, look at how he even talks about Thorwald. It's not Lars. He's not saying Lars. Thorwald. I love the way he swallows that L in the middle. Also, it sounds like maybe he's an immigrant. It's kind of a bad look, dude.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that man over there, not only did he kill us. wife, he's trying to take my job. Get over here. I should be living in that apartment. But yours is nicer. Well, I can, he's got an apartment. I don't like that he's got an apartment. I might live in that apartment someday.

He also's got, Thorwald's got this dyed white hair. Let's go to a Dead Kennedy show. Dude, it's amazing. They put Raymond Burr in this fucking, like they put baby powder on the head or something. It looks great though. It's very like, whoa, it's very striking.

It looks like Judge Doom after a couple of cheese birdies. Well, that's how you know he killed her. You're like, well, you wouldn't look like this if you weren't a bit. Come on now. You look like a villain. And one of those first things that maybe gives you that indication is him yelling at that little dog for digging around

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The one thing that is unnecessary and it's like kind of silly at this point, like now looking back on it, One of the things you see Jeffries looking at out the window, because there's this one moment, you never meet these women again, but there are two women on the roof of the building across the way, doing some topless sunbathing, which you see for like two seconds. And then it goes, because it's supposed to be a joke, like, oh, what's that noise? Oh, it's a helicopter. And the helicopter is supposed to be looking at the ladies. Oh, that's not. But it is just this shitty composite shot of this helicopter from God knows where footage.

It just doesn't line up, right? But that's interesting to see, you know, the movies about voyeurism. and even helicopter pilots. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why can I have a roof apartment? I don't understand. If there's room up there, I could just put a bed up there. I still, I mean, I'd love his apartment.

I still think the rope apartment is like the Oh, yeah, killer apartment. Hitchcock pad that I would love to stay in. Man, that is a nice, nice New York City apartment. And you got that hudgeon, you put a body. It fits right in, dude. Yeah, exactly. We got a trunk here that also helps for those.

That's true. So he's We see that he's getting the cast off Like in another week He takes a phone call from his magazine editor And the guy's like Got the dates wrong about when he's getting the cast off And now he's losing out on this like job opportunity

It's so hilarious because he's like Come on just put me on the job, just do it It's like dude you can't even fucking take a shit by yourself What are you talking about you want to take this photography job right now Yeah and cashmere wherever Yeah it's like overseas travel And I guess he called I told you it was going to be a powder keg

oh yeah right yeah whatever like the situation is oh that that's gonna be next and like all right yeah you're right you were the only one who knew that cashmere was about to blow up okay thank you jeff i do yeah it's like this it's a cool like you know adventure photographer life that he's got you know what i mean and it's it's neat it makes him very intrepid but it also like it's very obviously uh painful for him to be like completely laid up like that you yeah well that's what he's afraid of is being laid up forever settling down and having a regular life because the editor is this like he says to the editor like oh you know on a weekie i might be married and i couldn't go anywhere because of the nagging wife or whatever and and what a tragedy

to be uh at home betrothed to grace kelly's rich socialite of manhattan yeah what a fucking struggle that would be for you yeah she's buying your lobsters and she's wearing 1100 dresses you'll get to be just fine when she makes that comment about you like this dress you know it's on loan but it costs 1100 dollars whatever i looked it up the inflation 13 large wow for that gown good it's just weird to be using your girlfriend like a rival job opportunity yeah like just to be like you know she's really interested in me she might take me off that you know any time to you know what how much i make with her her dad is worth a lot of money that you know being a paid like kept house husband

that sounds beautiful always been the dream um i do love what he signs off with his magazine at her he's like yeah well the next time you call me have some good news for me slams the phone down which is great dude him this is the thing you know god forbid knock on wood i've never had like a severe broken bone like any injury like he has here this having to use the wooden scratcher oh yeah dude your fucking crotch is going and you got he's fucking sticking that thing down a scratch a scratching spoon, a long wooden spoon you have for scratching. And you know it smells. You know,

like you're washing every other crevice, you're trying to keep up with it as much as you can, but there's still a thing of plaster around your waist and your leg. The sweat. It's fun. The sweat is just going to build. It's just how it's going to happen. The funkification. It's supposed to be a heat wave at the start of this movie. It's a heat wave. And so then think

about this, right? Yeah, the funkification, the heat wave exacerbating the funkification and yet Grace Kelly still wants to suck his cock and this dude wants to just spy on the neighbors. Because he's just jacket I mean he's jacketed all day long. Let's be honest, he's interrupted by the maid slash nurse. God damn

it, Stella. You hear for my massage, but I'm trying to jerk off. Why don't you set my rags out? I got a couple rags on the floor. Send those out to the cleaners. That's the blackouts. When you get the blackouts when he's going, that's him jerking off. That's all day. Gooting all day.

I invented only fans and gooting. Steve, it's interesting that you keep being confused. about whether or not this woman is a maid or a nurse it's because he's a dick because this woman says that she is like the insurance company assigned nurse

to make sure his muscles don't atrophy and all that stuff but then he's like yeah can you make me a sand wear and what do you go out to do my fucking grocery shopping and my laundry and whatever I was like what fucking deductible does this guy have this lady's coming over once a week or once a date oh well you know 1954 60 bucks

well he's just so charming and he says things so weirdly. So, you know, how can you back off? My question is, does she bathe him at all? I know it's these back rubs, but is that like, I mean, I assume a sponge bath happens. Isn't that Grace Kelly's purview? Yeah, totally get that sponge bath, no, no, no, it's for Stella. This is Stella's job. She's got to wash my ball. Get out of here, sexy girlfriend. You're not giving me a sponge bath. You were trying to get a secret jerk in, weren't you? No, Grace Kelly, you will not touch my dick stella might i've been spent all day from guden stella by uh there's uh my crack got

a little dirty you know if you don't mind uh taking one of the rags shove one of the rags disgusting grace kelly tried to stick her fingers up there she's trying to get me to have some exciting times did you believe that the nag and wife that's the pagan wife disgusting you know i'm moving those clertons are almost got a goon cane yeah yeah yeah i can do a goon cane Yeah, all right, Mr. Horses. You want to come into the cave with me? I'm your only fan, you understand. The only one.

We see a little bit of like how Raymond Burr goes about his day. He tends to this flower garden that's on the sort of yard level here. And I'd really love the lady who's like the sculptor next door is like trying to ask him something. And he just turns around. He's like, shut up. Man, telling your neighbors to shut up. Hell yeah. She was lecturing him like he was overwatering.

Oh, that's what it was overwatering. Why don't you shut up? And for the time period, that's like, and that's like a nuclear event, right? Come on, we're like at least 50 years away from a water crisis, okay? So why don't you just shut your fucking mouth? Officer, he told me to shut up. Sir, you're coming with us.

I will say, though, the shut-ups later on in the movie that he's thrown at Grace Kelly. I'm like, this lady's got to get out of here. He's like, why are you shut up? I'm like, whoa. If I told my wife to shut up, it would be, there would be a hotel for, somebody. It's got to be a different dynamic for sure. And you got to discuss that before things start happening. Yeah, sure. Even Stella's

busting his balls right here about like she's like, how fucking stupid are you, L.B. Jeffries? You are dating Grace Kelly. You have to lock this shit down. You have to get married and she goes is it going to happen anytime soon? Is the father loading up a shotgun? He's like, oh gross. That would mean I'd have to have

sex with her to make a baby. Impregnate Grace Kelly? I already said no to the fingers up the ass. We already said no, and Nick's that right down the middle. You got all I need over here with Miss Torso. A rags, you understand. Oh, maybe Ms. Torzo would like to come

photograph the jungle with me. What do you say, Miss Torso? Hello? And he keeps watching everyone, and he's watching Miss Lonely Hearts, who's this, you know, like spinster kind of woman, and she at one point is like pantomiming a date with someone. That's rough. Yeah. It's real sad. Well, you saw the Invisible Man.

is real, and he's, Claude Raines here, he's next door. Lisa, the Invisible Man's going on a date. He's somewhere out here. I'm looking, I'm looking. He must have gone somewhere. He couldn't got far. That's where he's always looking at the backyard. Now, maybe I should do that.

Sometimes I forget how to have dinner. Sometimes I forget how to use a fork in a spoon. Oh, see, she's practicing. That's what you got to do. Practice makes perfect, Lisa, see? It's the rehearsal like Nathan Fielder will do it. Five years. It's what, it's a creepy scene.

It's very sad. It's super fucking sad. It's sad and intimate and it shows you the violation of the privacy. Oh, absolutely. And there are certain things I'd be closing my blinds for. My fucking sad, lonely date. I don't care how warm it is. I'm close to the blinds before that.

Cry for help. I don't know. She might be like, please, someone look in here and take me off the market. Or, yeah, maybe like a bragging. Like, look, Miss Lonely Hearts finally has a date. See? Look, everybody, I'm dating. But it is amazing.

Like, when it's Lonely Hearts specifically, when the, sleeping pill thing is being suspected. She closes the curtains and the disappointment on Stella and L.B. Jeffries. I don't think Lisa's here for that scene. It's like, oh.

It's like someone unplugged the TV. Oh. I also love him watching these newlyweds come in. This fucking guy who, so this is interesting, right? So next door, it's got to be like a hotel. Right? Because the guy like

shows them in. There's this guy who looks like John Belushi who like shows them into the room. I assume that their newlyweds is their new apartment. Yeah, but like who is this guy? The realtor or whoever the middle and he's carrying a suitcase. I thought he was like a bell or a lot of bellhop, but like it's a, it's a grody

hotel and this is just where the honeymoon's happening. Oh, the honeymoon suite. Oh, yeah. Oh, those blinds. Hey, hey, you over there. Don't get fuck until you open those blinds. I'm not sure if, if, uh, don't do it. missionary. Now I've got to see his ass.

His ass is just bobbing up and down. What's Miss Torso doing? I'm not sure if motels or hotels had like a dining room attachment back then. Because they are, you see them having breakfast at one scene. Oh, is it? Okay. And so I think I thought apartment too and just

like he's looking over the, oh, imagine all the humpiness going on. Oh, yeah. Sly dog. And I could jerk off to it without having it. That's their runner. Like everybody's got a runner going through. Which is really great. Everybody's got a storyline, which is amazing. And theirs is basically every so often, like he'll be out the window spent and she'll be like, Harold, like basically she needs it, you know.

I don't know what, I mean, Alfred, you know, he pushed the envelope in a lot of ways. The amount of I almost, the first time he opens that blind, I'm almost seen this guy's dick. Definitely still has a heart on and Alfred was like, no, we're going to have to make it a little bit, pushing out a little bit. There's a little bubble, maybe even. You're butting up against the window, she'll do it again. I can't see the whole thing. Well, apparently it was just cool. He was, he directed from Jeffrey's apartment,

and everyone had, like, radio transmitters in their ears on the other side, which is really kind of amazing. This is very, like, Wes Anderson-y, you know what I mean? Obviously, like, it's the other way around. I know that. This is like a diorama Yeah, exactly This is a very dollhousey

Kind of a deal Which I always appreciate with him And I appreciate here I think more stagingness is not a bad thing Good thing, yeah I mean this could be a play Yes, for sure But you'd have to have really good stagecraft

To do it Absolutely I mean it's kind of funny thing Like we mentioned a couple times Rope which is adapted from a play And that's like I feel like the camera movements In that prevent my how I

movies that are plays really don't vibe with me unless you're like doing something with it so like in rope he's constantly moving the camera, he's following them everywhere and that you know lifts it above and here similarly because the worlds of these people

are so much more robust like taking them beyond extras you know what I mean and like they don't have like as Tobo would say they don't have like names but they have like nicknames at least so they're like you remember them more in that way it's all just really fucking smart uh so uh we meet lisa right here he wakes up from a nap my god this waking up from a nap and grace kelly's just in your face great oh yeah and she's a jerk nap

i was jerking i was drunk myself to sleep i don't mind that rag over there i was hard and you interrupted it what are you doing here i was dreaming of looking at other people i got to wake up and see this maw in my face uh so she's brought dinner he's like oh good my stomach's as empty as a football, which is weird. I mean, I understand if football's empty, but what a weird. Yeah, I never think about it like that. No, no, not really. Because it's a masculine thing, you see.

I'm a man's man. Wow, you just delivered my food right to my doors in a seamless kind of manner. It's fascinating. Wow, so, oh, wow, you came all the way from Club 21 to my door in a dash, you say. So Club 21, it was sort of your grub hub of food that you had to select from. Uber Couldn't think of one for that Oh, Uber

Convenient is what it is Oh yeah 21 Club Uber Alice Yeah, yeah It was more German right now I do love that we're mentioning 21 Club It was a real place that was in Operation Manhattan from the 20s

To the 20s Pretty much I think the pandemic or something Pando or like a little after like closed it But it was around for a while And so this she's got this dude coming over from the restaurant he's dressed to the nines

like fancy ass club or whatever um is she come she had like a day that's why she's wearing this crazy dress right yeah like she went to do some stuff she actually also had lunch yes at 21 club we're told that was a liquid lunch for sure absolutely martinis

and she's telling you know she's talking about like oh I planted three items about you in like the gossip trades today and this was like her day Like you get like the rundown of like the busy day of a New York socialite. It actually feels a lot like she could fit in with the swans. Yeah, sure. I thought, did I miss it?

Is she working for a magazine or no? She's just kind of working around. I think she's just like she's a 1954 like influence. She's rich for a living. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So she says like, oh yeah, like this dress from Paris. It's on loan.

It's $1,100. Yeah, $13,248 for this dress, which is, which is wild. I do like the idea that like she actually went out in the more. morning like in t-shirt and tights but like then finally got the dress as the day went on yeah in the Harvard sweatshirt and the fucking um and he's acting like a total asshole like immediately because you know she's talking about oh you know if you gave up the crazy life of going overseas and being a war photographer or whatever I could hook you up with like swank fashion jobs or whatever and he's like oh how about if I showed up to

the shoot in fucking combat boots would you like that it's like no Just put shoes on you, dickhead. He's been fake fighting with her all day. The morning, he's fake fighting with her via his magazine guy, and then he's fake fighting with her again via the nurse. Because she's the reason he's not getting the cashmere job. In his head, she's the reason he's not getting to go to Kashmir. Oh, you want me to look, do makeup countershoots.

Can I die doing makeup countershoots? That's what I want to do. I want to almost die. And the musicians playing the music, right? And she's just like, well, that's so nice. It's like it's written just for us. No wonder he's so lousy at it. It's taking a while to get it.

No wonder I don't have a boner anymore. And she looked, you get this shot of her and she looks visibly hurt. Oh, yeah. He doesn't even notice that she looked visibly hurt. Well, it's a nasty comment. It's like, oh, that's why it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work. And, man, she is making a trek.

We learn she lives up on 63rd Street. You're going all the way to the fucking village to see this guy and he's just going to be mean to you? The IFC Center isn't even there. Come on, you can't even see a fucking movie. You're right. The IFC Center is not there. I don't even think the Waverly was there in 1990.

No, possibly not even the papaya stand. Probably just a puppet theater. The papaya stand was not there in 1950s. Papaya came. What is this? Foreign food? Hot dog. Am I back in the jungles?

Papaya, the devil's fruit? By the way, the food, this lobster thumador or whatever. Lobster thermidor, yes. It looks so incredible. I cannot believe that, like this broiled cheese on top with served with the fries. It looks so fucking good. I have had it before, if no, but it is really worth it. Where did you have lobster thermidor?

I had it when I was in Europe, actually. Oh, wow. One of your voyages and your photography. When I was covering what, what looks like the dropping of the atom bomb? What was that? Yeah, he was, he was out west with Hopi taking some of them photos of the mushroom cloud, you bet your ass. Yeah. Okay, plant his funeral now.

Oh, fuck. Lisa, my teeth are falling out. I had a running bed with Abidheimer. How many women could we drive to Shoeishai? He's got two, I've got four. We cut the whole town they built. He got the extra points because they were all wives of other people. We were Eifling Towering.

Funnyest part was, all bathtub death, too. It was really weird. Why don't you take a bath, Grace Kelly? You don't take a bath. I technically had more girls, but they were all wives on his. So he just got more points. So we start to see the first, like, planting of the seed of this mystery. He's looking out at the great Raymond Burr, by the way.

Yeah. And he is on the telephone while his, we're told, invalid wife is in the bedroom. Yeah. And then we see when he's on the telephone, she gets up from the bed and, like, runs over to the door and does a little, like, ear to the door, like trying to listen in or whatever. And he's watching this go down like, oh, why? Why on earth? Would that happen? I'm reading his lip-sickly bitch

Why would you call your wife She's right there But like she's sort of like the wife like yells at him a little bit And then laughs at him So you could That's hen pecked they call that back The famous last mistake from this lady Miss Thorwald

Is she gone? Grace Kelly gone yet at this point Because I think like No this is right when she's She's the thermidor is coming in and everything Because this is where we also We look at Cameo Alert Hitch appears in the composer's apartment, winding this dude's clock.

And I'm like, you had to hire a service to come in to wind your grandfather clock, buddy? I read this. This dude's, I'm going down on this musician. First, we're winding clock. Oh, well, looky here. I've done you a service winding your clock and you've got no money to pay me what with being an out-of-work composer. What, oh, what will we do about this? No, keep the window open.

Well, first I'm going to put on this bear suit, you understand. How do you feel about remote Colorado hotels? I met him while I was going about my grind. So I met him on grinder. Lisa, I think the teddy bears are having their picnic over there. It is kind of what? He swallowed the whole hot dog. He's a real papaya king over there.

Oh, hell, the one true papaya king. Show with some other people, will you? Yeah, secretly, I was the throat goat. He's got a guilty look when he's, he's looking back at the camera, obviously, as he does. But it's like this weird guilty look. That's where I got that vibe. We're going at it. It's that, I think, definitely.

Also mixed in with a little, I don't want him to know how easy it is to do this, by yourself. What is my watch winding business I have? They fight more about the differing lifestyles. He's got this asshole line. You ever eat raw fish heads in the jungle? You ever get shot at

your fucking bitch? It's like, dude, what are you doing? It's crazy. You know, he wants to live in exotic life. It's actually kind of interesting to compare his character with George Bailey. Oh, sure.

Aeanorically enough, a guy who wanted to live, of this exotic lifestyle that actually gets, you know, trapped in a marriage, but that's actually a great thing. And that's what makes him part of the community. And this is like the exact opposite. I'm not gonna be some George Bailey asshole. You're right, dude. This guy's gotta get visited by a fat angel.

And it's practically like 20 years later. Yes. And he's like, I don't know about settling down. Oh my God. This is also where we get the couple that sleeps on the fire escape of the mattress. Legit, legit New York City thing that I still see happening to this day.

Really? In this neighborhood? In this neighborhood, yeah, I'll walk by and you can see there, like, someone's just woken up and there's like a blanket and a pillow like still out on the fire escape because it's hot as fuck and air conditioning and like utilities are so expensive. Those things are supposed to save your life and you're supposed to be able to like there should be stirred. I always just imagine them falling off the building. Yeah. I mean, you know, I've, God bless. I've never seen anything like that happened.

I've never heard of it. And what was all the fucking scaffolding crap in the city now? That's true. There's something that will catch you anyway. They're like overly up on that stuff. stuff. But yeah, no, also, you see like a pillow or like a stray blanket or two out on it? I misread that moment at first. I thought he was like a husband that got in trouble is kind of like, you're getting the fire escape tonight. Exactly. But no, she's out there with him.

Of course, head to toe because if they were sleeping the other way around, you can't show that. Improper, yeah. And then it rains and it caused the commotion. And apparently with the radio headset thing, I read this on the trivia, that that Hitch told the woman to pull the mattress this way and the guy to pull it that way that's why it looks like they're struggling with it even more. Yeah, their whole like confrontation is real. I mean what a fucking bastard but that's great

you know what I mean? Hey DP, watch this and from as I shake it. You go that way. Yes, you go that. All right, Al. You do your stuff. That's his you know, what was the, his most over

reprinted quote, right? But he always thought that, you know, actors are like cattle, you know, or like pieces on a game board. You know, Like forces you have to break or whatever. What you want to do is have the cows fight each other all the time. You ever see two cows fighting? It's hilarious.

It's actually good for the beef. Whatever happens here, it's not going to be a cataloged in some large net forever, for everything to be looked at over and over again. It's just, it's gone. It's all in the ether, you understand. There never be some sort of interconnected net, you see, or an internet, if you will. There's a what, graphie?

is being written about me? A what? So, yeah, while the, so this rain is happening, I love the vibes right here, right? Like, he wakes up to the rain, and it's like 2 o'clock in the morning. He watches the couple trying to deal with the mattress, but then he also notices, uh-oh,

Raymond Burr is leaving the apartment at 2 o'clock in the morning and going, who knows where. Well, Grace Kelly has already left in a huff, basically, because they had this huge blot argument, and she's like, you know, I'll see, you know, I'll see it when I, I say goodbye you mean just she you tomorrow and she's like I'll see you when I see it and then she

kind of is like it's kind of a great like stagey moment of like I guess I'll be back tomorrow like it's very like end of act one it is yeah because it's uh what does she say that because it is fucking great it's a decent line um oh yeah she goes well then you're not going to see me for a long time not until tomorrow night at least and again I'm like she finds this smelly old dick irresistible and he couldn't care less he couldn't I hope she's taking the lobster garbage with her because honestly that's going to stick up the apartment. Well, it's in 1950s. Oh, just throw it out the window.

Oh, no. In that mood, you leave it. Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? Come on now. Yeah, he can deal with his smelly lobster apartment. I mean, that's when he wakes him up at the night. Not the beautiful rain sounds like, oh, Jesus Christ, who died?

Oh, my Lord in heaven. Miss Torso, are you okay? We do also hear, you know, how Mrs. Lonely Hearts there drinks herself to sleep again that night. Ooh, hell yes. You don't, by the way, it turns out you don't have to be. be lonely to do that. I'm quite unloanly. Slowed in. It works for everyone.

I love the in this sequence, too, the composer comes home wasted and he's like completely soaked, which is funny. And then Burr comes back to the apartment and then leaves again like almost right away. And this L.B. You know, can't help himself. He's really

fascinated at this point. And he falls asleep in the chair and he wakes up and it's even later in the night and he looks over. And I just love, it's terrifying. even though there's nothing there, the apartment's just completely dark. I'm like, oh, where it all the lights go? What's going on? There's a couple of cool, completely dark shots.

The smoking shot is so cool. Oh, amazing. Yes. Love a good smoking in the night like that. And all you can see is the butt glowing. It's pretty great. This is one of those movies that was absolutely ruined for me by The Simpsons a little bit. Like the Bart of Darkness episode is such a looking boy, it's coming to kill me.

It's such a direct parody that I've seen that so much more than this, that I was sort of like, when does he get the telescope? Like really, literally, I expected the inciting incident someone is to give him a telescope. That's awesome. Miss Torso also having to like fend off some dude that like wants to come in for some late night hanky-panky and she, you know, gets him out of the way.

She's got some honestly good to Sips this lady, like a real army of sims. Yeah, several guys there. And what is, Lisa's got a great line about like, that's the hardest job a woman has juggling the wolves. Juggling Wolves, yes. That's a great fucking line. Because she had, she has three guys come in

and two guys are inside one guy's out and she comes out and makes out with the guy outside the solar fox and he has a whole thing

about it oh right she's got like a balcony yeah yeah and LB has a whole thing about like

oh I thought she would have gone with one of the guys from now yeah right right also kind of fucked up

right because she has presumably a husband who's overseas at the moment little Stanley is going to be

back at the every day now I wonder if they had an understanding you know I'm going to be you're away at war

Stanley tearing it up in Korea Exactly And back in the day You used to have some respect for your Jody's The guy who fucks your wife While you're gone It used to be a respected position It was a good thing for the community

That's right That used to be a job you could get Until fucking Ronald Reagan But now everything becomes morality And we have to be against the Jodys We're gonna invent credit scores And we're eliminating wife fuckers No more Jodys for anyone

And then the The moment here that's kind of cool is we the audience are now officially given more information that L.B. has because we see Raymond Burr is escorting a woman out of the apartment down the hallway

and it's like oh, like we as the audience want to be like, Jeff look! And then the camera turns and Jeff is asleep and doesn't see the exit. So this woman is just a plant to fool the police so that he has somebody to take the train station. Yeah, we were talking about this off the air. I love that there's like it's 1954 so you can only

put a hat on so much. And they don't come outright at the end of the movie and say, like, yeah, and he just hired, like, a working gal to, like, come pretend to be seen going to the train station and whatever else. But I think that's like, he just hired a sex worker or something to come, like, play the role of Mrs. Thorwald. Oh, Thorwald. I love swallowing that L and Thorwald. Yeah, it's a little weird, but it's not the weirdest thing I've had to go. Yeah, there was the guy in the bear suit. That was weird.

You swallow L's I swallow pianists Pianist Mightily Whatever you want Alby But yeah So it's like the next morning

Stella's giving him another One of these greasly massages here Chastising him for sleeping in this chair And lamenting poor Miss Lonely Hearts or whatever And she starts telling her About the craziest fucking thing happened last night Stella you're not gonna believe it

You just sort of goes through the whole thing He's referring to him as the salesman. That's before he learns that his name is Thorwald, he's just the salesman. You know, you get all this stuff like, oh, careful. We might get caught. Like he's much more cautious at the start of the movie. You know, so it's like, even though it's broad daylight at this point, it's a lot harder for Thorwald to like see over. He's like, oh, back up, back up.

We don't want to get caught. Those are a nasty business. We also set up, maybe it's in the previous day, this maniac lady that's put in her Pomeranian in this basket. and just hoping for the best. Yes, it's a risky move. And I got to say it's some lazy-ass shit. This is a, I think, it's got to be a three-story building. You can't walk down these stairs, asshole, to let this poor dog out.

Maybe you shouldn't have it. Put this thing in a basket, making it go 100 feet in the air. You're lucky Thorwald rings its neck. We see the artist lady, actually, speaking of the dog, L.B. sees her. shoe the dog away from the garden at that point, which is great. So now this is so he's been looking, the escalation

happens here, right? He's just been looking with my own two peepers. That's all I got. Oh, hey, Stella, why don't you get those binoculars off the shelf for me? We're going to ramp this up a little bit. Get real crazy here. And then soon after that, it's not, that's not crazy enough. Got to get that telephoto lens.

Oh, man. Yeah, the binoculars are not working enough for me to see cross the courtyard well. fucking telephoto lens I do like all of his photos that can I tell you what he's done I because they even say like he broke it on a like a race or something. He's hit by like a race car

that's the picture you see is like the car it's like a race car crashing yes into me yeah and he's wow yeah it sucks sorry no I loved it I also invented the Dave Matthews said oh yeah one of there's a South African

and a bunch of guys with a lot of a lot of horde section right there's a guy from South Africa. Come over to Southern Virginia. Start a band. That's where I got the name for the album. Under the Table Dreamer. I just passed out there one night. I couldn't. I just it was the best place to sleep. I'm not

going to sleep on my fucking bed, of course. It's either the chair or under the table. You know, like the director, Hitchcock said, these are like ants marching. Oh, yes. Excellent. When all the little ants are marching, they all do it the same way. I do like the song crashing to me.

It's about coming, you understand. Which I really appreciate. Any little ditty about coming, I just go Gaga for. See, nobody understands that that's what the crash is rid of. Well, maybe David Cronenberg. He gets it, man. He always got it, of course. Paul Haggis, the idiots.

No. So, yeah, better break out the telephoto lens here. And I'm like, this dude's a criminal. But this is where he spies Thorwald putting a saw. and a big butcher's knife wrapping it up in some newspaper, man. When I murder my wife in my apartment, the shades

are drawn for the rest of the week. You know what I mean? It's not if, it's when. And then he notices, it's amazing because none of this is actually said, but we get what L.B. is thinking, right? Because we're watching Thorwald here, and the

sick wife is in the other room when he comes home after whatever he did with the wrapped up tools in the newspaper and he just flops down on the couch like huh instead of and you can tell LB's watching it like oh that's funny he didn't go in and check on his sick wife he's just flopping down on the couch

like he's relieved to have just gotten rid of something oh strange because he also just sawed bone for fucking hours tired as fuck Jesus Christ and so we get this scene with Lisa comes over again and this is like this is your classic like 1950s like we're canoodling in the movie

but we also got to like keep the movie going this like we're kind of making out but mostly talking yes this is so weird it's all closed mouth it's a bunch of closed mouth kissing which is like as hot and heavy as you can get oh absolutely and it is pretty steamy for sure it is but it's just weird that like you're kissing

and then it's stuff or another thing thinking about something you get me at the market later yeah baby yeah we need bananas well out of bananas he's got he's got a suitcase over there y'all he sells a costume jewelry

could you stop looking at that other girl her name is miss tort so and she's having trouble getting her bra on for you the listener we're all kissing each other that's the noise yeah exactly yeah it's all

sitting cheek to cheek it's a poly podcast but he says he's like Why hasn't he been in his wife's bedroom all day? I don't know, man. Why don't you have sex with your girlfriend? Well, I mean, I guess it's also the fallacy of the, which is another thing that's so bizarre,

I think we were talking about this, like the preponderance of twin beds in movies. And like, as a kid, you're like, well, in the 50s, they just all had twin beds. Like, nobody had that. You know what I mean? Like, it was just a code thing. I'll tell you what, though.

If Chelsea and I check into a hotel and it's like two queen beds, separate nights and it's fucking great oh yeah oh so like that's why I'm like I think you're right it's definitely overused because we have to code shit right like mommy and daddy ain't having sex unless it's to make little Timmy but I feel like some people were doing that

just because it was like you know you think the Frank Costanza I got the fucking Jimmy legs or what you know what I mean we're also 30 years before CPAP machine so Christ the noise yeah exactly even more I mean like I know I have I have like friends couples who still do that if you have the room yeah like they have their separate rooms and they do that and then you know you just because you can fuck wherever it's true you know is that right

it's true and it's good so he totally uh throws cold water on this fire right here because yeah say how would you go about cutting up a human body and she's like what the fuck

is wrong with you I gotta get out of this relationship she's getting totally freaked and then just like making matters where Raymond Burke comes home again he's just got a bunch of rope out of nowhere I told you look sorry I'm just obsessed with true crime initiative I cast about

about it you know I cast out about true crime all at all hours I cast out about it right here from my home pod that I said in my my pod apartment here is where I do my casting yeah in my cast in my cast um cast come on dead wives USA is going to

be on a history channel in 30 minutes Dude, that reminds me, Dead Wives USA. There is another of these sort of gimmicky crime shows on Max. You don't say. I told you guys, because I think it premiered last year, there's a thing where it's like the murders on Elm Street,

and it's all true crime stories about murders on Elm Street. There's another one out this year. I think there's a new Elm Street season, but there's a new one murders that took place on Friday the 13 and I'm just like my god and I watched the first one and it was totally disturbing well because you gotta watch out with Max because what it's like oh it's this is all HBO property wrong

a lot of it's investigation discovery and now the TLC shit is getting dumped on there totally like I think I'm watching some like sophisticated block of like crime documenting or whatever yeah and then all of a sudden it's like my obese 700 pound life is up next Oh, yeah, because this is all garbled together, shit. I'd like to see the crimes they get into. Obese crime.

That might be something. I mean, Thorwald is kind of obese crime. I think it's probably a lot of, like, computer-related fraud. My show, we only talk about crimes fat people do. He's, like, BMI, obese. Like, it's, like, it's fucking, no, I saw a... 170 pounds is fat, actually. Welcome back to the cast.

It's a light week. I just saw a big fella, Jaywalk. So that's been the tubby crimes. Until next time. I can see from the restaurant, some fat guy didn't tip very well. Get him. And get this Casper mattress for when you sleep in a separate bed from your wife. Two for one sale, Casper mattresses.

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about these commercials patreon.com slash cast talk no no we ain't movies so Lisa is kind of just like listen what if she just died you said she was sick

what if she just died and as if he can hear her across the courtyard Thorwald brings in this huge crate and she's like uh and it's like LB's like She now do you believe me? Something's a miss here Well she has a great thing of like so tell me

everything you know back to the beginning one more time and what you think it means which is great so now all three of them Stella included in this operation are hooked into the tail episode one I'll replay it for this is where he starts pestering his cop friend who conveniently flew the airplanes when he was the photo journal whatever

no they were in the war together i think they were like fighter pilots together okay yeah and like jimmy store front seat back seat kind of thing oh i love that that's what we were doing a tip that's what we were calling it but he else yes by the way we didn't invent this i bet someone else has josh josh lewis of slizzoid saw me and eric sitting front to back like i was in one seat on an aisle eric was in front of me on the aisle and he was like you guys are jet piloting Yes, we did that for the whole festival pretty much. It was great. I love jet pilot.

But he also, I think the, the, the, Doyle, yes. Later in the movie at some point, kind of like, let's, let's, let's just a line of dialogue about like, oh, and you got that big photo that launched your career. I would be rich, too, if I got that great photo or whatever. Oh, right. Even as a jet pilot, he was kind of that thing. A little shudderbug. I looked it up today. Jimmy Stewart actually flew.

It was an observer mission. No, he flew in World War II, which is great. Yeah. He did an observer mission in Vietnam. He was... Really? Jimmy Stewart looking at the Viet Cong. Wow, that's way worse than what we were doing.

We're going to kill all of you. That's right. We're going to kill all of you. Are we going to... Which button drops the napalm? I see a bunch of them. I can get them. I can get them all.

That's disturbing. It is. Once we get Ronnie into office. then we'll get all of you. Another good connection for Jimmy Stewart in aviation. Spirit of St. Louis, pretty good movie. Oh, yeah. I believe that's Billy Wilder, maybe?

That sounds really not. I'll have to double check. Yeah, that's a good movie. But that is a good movie where he plays Charles Limburg. Oh, you know, the Nazis were not that bad. Yeah, something tells me if you go back and watch that, it's not as accurate as it could be. Where's my baby? There's no squeeze, no screen on this window.

Oh, hey, Miss Torso, do you have my baby? It's that lazy soul. of a bitch Hoover. He can't find them. It is Billy Wilder. There you go. You got to be here to see the whole set up. Just a friendly neighborhood murderer, Doyle.

It gets this dude to come over. Tom Doyle, an infamous two first name name. Yep. Yeah. Luckily, I know an Irishman and they're all cops in this town. Just chuck potatoes out the window. They'll come. Oh, God.

I love Stella making him. him this disgusting looking breakfast that he is blown away by it's like raw looking eggs and he's like whoa how about them eggs this is great or whatever later he's eating this sandwich which is like one slice of bologna the one in one yellow mustard and two slices of white bread

that's it I think that that's like fucking wartime rationing only the one slice of bologna that's not a sandwich have as much white bread as you want we mostly make that out of plaster anyway a lot of it just shaved right off my arms or white bread One of those clubs in Nashville that we hung out, one of the honky talking, the famous one, they have the Depression special. You get the bologna with the mayonnaise on it.

Oh, yes. Delicious. Wow. Yeah. So you're going to be okay if what I think is going to happen to the economy. Stock it up on bologna, my friend. Dude, I will get the bologna from the deli sometime. Deli bologna.

It's very different. Yeah. Pretty texture on that. I never liked bologna. I never liked bologna. My father used to fry bologna. Oh, sure. It would stink up the house

I bet But so he's like trying to eat these eggs And Stella has this great line She goes He better get that trunk out of there Before it starts to leak And he's like Well these runny eggs aren't delicious anymore

Because they're doing the cut up the body thing He's trying to eat the bacon He's like Oh yes right Yeah there's an overcooked piece of bacon as well There's that moment when Thorwald is cleaning the bathroom walls And Stella's like

Oh you must have splattered her because she's like very morbidly into it you know what i mean like very very proto true crime yes you know what i mean oh my god it's always the ladies that are listening she's got her big glass or red wine like this is outrageous i mean this is i mean if you i mean i thought this was going to be i mean the at least the first time i watched it i was like oh okay so they don't have a relationship now but once he shares his freak with her yeah clearly they're gonna get more and like no he still doesn't want to fuck her no still no even after uh some goons come and take away the crate

no questions asked like that's the end of it and then so this is great he is such a fucking creep he's watching how Raymond Bird dials the phone and he's like yeah yeah that's a long distance number right there you're dialing kids at home back in the day before

unlimited data and calling wherever and whatnot if you called like outside of your area code which the area code is the first three numbers of your phone number If you dialed outside of that, it was considered long distance. And you incurred extra charges. And those charges could be

smaller or larger, depending upon how long the distance. So you now can file us under educational. It's not just the fart jokes and at the movie trivia. It is also education. But that was a very modern parlance with the area code here. It's like, yeah, this is

Chelsea 592 calling Kondike. Everyone had like trucker names, basically. the weird so whatever it was it was the two first letters of that word and then you looked up where the letters were the phone number

you know so like two was ABC so it would be like C H so it's like two wherever the H was five and then the rest of that fucking phone number what a stupid way to do that I don't know if the Nazis aren't listening just tell me the number you want to dial okay there I promise you

why don't you just tell me the name of the number you I forgot the Navajo code to call you We're using so that the, you know, the crouts can't hear. I was trying to die a long distance, but my wind talker was stuck in traffic. Wait, are Vittles good here? How about the farmer's daughter? But, yeah, so Doyle shows out from the actor Wendell Corey. Total, like, you know, player in Hollywood.

He's in a ton of movies, which is like Bit Park kind of dude, more or less. And he thinks he's, like, full of shit right away. But he's like, all right, you know, I will, I'll do, use my cop powers. You know, look into this guy or whatever. We see really quickly Raymond Burr shoeing the dog away from the garden and then like covering up the dirt again really quickly, which is great. I mean, fine. The East River is right there, big man.

Like, you cannot be dumping this lady in your tiny meager pot garden. It sounds like the body is in the East River and her head is down there. Because later at the end they're like, oh, he dug it up when the dog got nosy and left it in a hat box. like what do you put in a hat box her pretty head do you think that uh hitchcock himself would go like full ec comics if you if he had the ability to absolutely yeah i think he would have made yeah like a real like these like murder my wife's story it would i mean actually like if you go all the way into the 70s like his movie frenzy is about like a he went back to it was the first movie he went back to london to make and it's about like a jack the ripper

serial killer who's strangling women around town and like it's not the exact EC Comics vibe but it's his only R-rated movie and it's very gory it's not gory but it's nasty so you can see like if he was given that opportunity he probably would have had a little bit of his

that I really think makes you feel gross after you want to it's disgusting it's gross and what feels out out of place about it is just Hitchcock doing something where everyone's dressed like the 70s and it's kind of like what the hell? It's very weird But it's a movie of his that I feel often gets like shoot away in the grand conversation,

understandably, because it's not like a heavy hitter like this. But it's well worth the watch if you ever get a chance to check it out. Yeah, it's only R-rated movie for very obvious reason. I mean, Psycho gets a little grody, obviously. There's some gruesomeness there. You're seeing like dead titty on the back of a fruit truck. Yeah. And I mean, and Psycho is a very satisfying, like,

The structure of Psycho is very satisfying. The ending is satisfying. Whereas frenzy, that's not exactly the case. And you could hide a lot in black and white too. Oh, yeah, big time. So Doyle comes, he like goes down the block to like look into, you know, Raymond Burr's building, whatever, and he comes back. And we get this like info dump about him, right?

So he's five and a half months into a six-month lease. No neighbors ever saw him ever. The wife left at 6 a.m. And L.B's like, damn, that's when I was sleeping. I missed some of the hot. action or whatever. There was like witnesses that saw the woman in a hat or whatever and later on that feeds the conspiracy

idea like well it could have just been a woman in a hat. Right. And he says like well he escorted people saw him escorted his wife to the train station. She was seen getting on a train to Merrittsville or wherever that is. And then you know Pennsylvania movie. The

police investigation eventually continues where it's just like that trunk was signed for at Merrittsville by Mrs. Thorwald. Yes. But he's he's only made long-distance phone calls. Was he calling his wife in Merrittsville? Or was, yeah, I mean, or, you know, there's a lot unanswered because

that's what's good about this movie is it's all the perspective out the window, so you don't really know. These are very private lives. Does he have a mistress that maybe is working with him and picking it up out there? I'm glad you brought this up, Eric, because this is us pitching our Amazon rear window limited series

in which we find out everything about Ms. Torso. Yep, God. Dude. is from the perspective of the lady and the rear window colon the neighbors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.

Doesn't that make you want to shoot yourself in face? Doesn't that make you just feel a little grumbling the guts? Eight episode, limited series, each episode from another one of these windows. Yes. Yep. And every one of them that's not LB's window, they have a moment in the episode where it goes,

that pervert in the cast is looking at us again. Yes, it's got to be so fucking obvious. Every time you hear it again, it's like, it's like a shot of cyanide. That's the feeling you want when you have these ideas. There's a great moment where LBC's Doyle

ogling old Miss Torso there and he goes, hey, how's your wife? And I was like, you're fucking one to talk. Give me a break. How's your wife? So he's like, this is great. He's like, well, all right, Doyle, why do you just go, Thorwald's out right? I want you to go over there. Go into

his apartment and look around. And he's like, do you know how anything works. He's like, I don't have a search warrant. I can't just fucking walk into this house. He mentioned the Constitution, which is like you don't got to worry about that no more nowadays. This badge says police department doesn't say ice on it, okay?

I can't just be going around doing whatever I want. So we cut to sort of later that night. This is when he's eating the disgusting bologna sandwich and we're watching like what's going on. This is Miss Lonely Hearts is preparing for another date. And this is where she's chugging the booze. Get a little liquid

courage going before she leaves the apartment. the composer has this party which is awesome because the party is the excuse to have constant music flowing throughout this portion of the movie which is great and then we see Miss Lonely Hearts go across the street to this restaurant and just the functioning

part of the set like she can just go over there and sit out and you're not like and that's what's great about it too right I love that we've said it already but we don't leave this apartment ever unless it's you know through his spy glasses so it's not like we go down to the street with her and see like the

exterior shot of like the name of the restaurant or anything like that. It's just what he can glean from it. And you see that she sits alone. I kind of read this as she's picking up. She picks she's at the bar and what's a pickup? Oh, pick up. Oh, sure. Picking up a dude. Like, you know what I mean? That's the courage is for it. Just go over there.

I'm going to suck the first dick that talks to me. Is this the night where that dude comes back? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. This is. The younger man. But he got too fresh, too fast. Yeah. He certainly does. She slaps him and he leaves. Yep. And she's like, we been after. Yeah, then she's fucking crying about it

and everything. It's really, it's really sad. We see... The dog gets strangled this night too, right? Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. How do you feel about that? Well, it's clearly a puppet. And here's the thing. My thing is always like... If it's a little dog, it's okay? No, if the dog is given a name, it's sort of like Andrew's Tobo rules. If the dog has a name, it makes it harder

when it dies because I have a connection to the dog through the name. Right. But if it's just this, it's like this little dog, And honestly, like we said, this dog's better off dead man because, like, it's going to fall out that basket. Like, it's going to be getting pulled up in the basket one day. A little bird's going to fly by. It's going to go try to get it. Yeah, I mean, it might be, the basket might be a jarred by a falling baby that would then make the dog fall as well. That could also happen.

What did you watch where you're throwing your babies? You almost killed my dog. Ah, shut up you and 2F. I also. Clean up your baby. It's in the middle of the street. It's all messed up. Why did we rent the top floor to the Catholics?

They always do this. So here's two ways I'd like to see this dog die. One is we're talking about it falling out the basket. It would be great if you do the Jimmy Stewart falling out the window shop. But it's with this dog. I would love that. It's just like, no. Or deleted scene, you actually see big old Raymond Bird just, just banning this little popperated.

Guess what? that happens in episode four of neighbors oh wow I'm excited a whole different perspective because guess what someone was up that night the musician was up that night there's a line somewhere around here this night where Lisa

I forget like what it's just something about like should we be looking at them or whatever and she goes that I'm not up on your rear window ethics which I was like man I did not recall the title being mentioned in the movie that's so funny

This is the night where she's coming over specifically to watch. She's way into it. And she lets him know she will be staying the evening. And this is like, well, how's that going to work? Wait a second. Like a one bed here. What do we do it? If you don't like that, well, I'll say another night too.

Sleep in the tub. I'll put a pillow in there. Move to shower head just in case it leaks. She's really got to interfere with by gooning. How am I going to goon if you're here? You might be okay with gooning. He constantly just sleeps in the chair anyway. He gets chastised by Estella for doing it.

Because he's got, like, bed sores and stuff. Just show you out. Here are my gooning noises. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He's so sexy, isn't he, folks? But this is an amazing moment right here. It's right before they're woken up by the scream.

And right before she's like, I'm going to stay tonight or whatever. But they're first feeling shitty about feeling so nosy. Yes. And then they realize they also felt shitty. when Doyle told them that she was alive. Yes. And it is amazing to go right from like 1954 to 2025. And it's that same kind of like juz you get from like the bloodlust of true crime shit, right?

And then like if it works out a certain way or, and you're like, oh, me. Like the, um, there was the, there was the doc that was out about that the Austin multiple murders and the ice cream shot. Yeah, yeah. And the way that the filmmakers tried to position that was more on the, this was the effect it had on the community, this is the families, this on the other thing.

That's a great show, by the way. It was great. What was it called two scoops and you're dead? Yes, it was. His sprinkles on top? I think it's a tombstone with sprinkles on top. What is it, a knives out mystery?

Well, that's the thing is like, all this true crime does is sensationalize shit. You, you, you dehumanize the victim. Well, that's the point of entertainment. This show actually digs in there. Like, one of the women who is, like, the sister of... Sounds like a Rocky Red. Of a victim.

It turns to a grief counselor herself. And, like, it's a very... There's a lot of moving stuff with her and what she goes to. Why I was bringing it up specifically, though, was because people who watched it were pissed off that it didn't have the focus on the bloodlust. And I was like, you people are sick. Yeah. Like, you're fucking sick.

it's amazing to see it back here. It's the same kind of like but at least they acknowledge oh it's kind of shitty that we were disappointed this woman wasn't murdered. Well that's what I found sort of refreshing about that show was that it was twisting it on that and yes that's funny that people did that makes total sense. Oh absolutely. That's what you want and I mean

it's also like because it becomes in this especially in this world it becomes like gossip. You know what I mean? It's very gossipy which I think true crime is in its own right. It's like oh you know what they're doing when they behind the closed doors. You know what That is the point of it.

Yeah. So, I mean, she is just dressed in this green thing. It's fucking ridiculous. And she goes, what do you think? And he, and he says nothing because he's a fucking moron. And she goes, do you like it? And before you can say anything, the scream happens and shatters. When does she turn up, put on the negligee?

Is that? That's this. Oh, yes. She's got this green thing. And then she's like, I'm going to go into the bathroom and comes out in this other slinkier thing. And he's like, yeah, yeah, whatever. Put a fucking. bag over your head. The neighbors are doing

stuff. She looks good, but I will quote my wife. We were watching, Jen and I were watching it. And she's like, I'm going to go on and put on some more clothes. Because she's just like wearing more clothes when she comes out of the bedroom. There's that great what, naked gun where he's like wearing a suit. And he's like, you mind if I slip into something more comfortable? And he walks out of the bathroom in a difference.

But yeah, so this is, you know, the couple's dog is dead. And this lady this woman's great because she's like the only person really in the movie. that's putting any kind of New York stink on anything. And she's just like, did you kill him because he liked you? Why did you kill my dog?

And she's like yelling or whatever. And then L.B. is like, hey, do you notice? Oh, during the kerfuffle there with that dead pooch, the only person that didn't come to the window was Thorwald. And that's when you see the red. Yes. And it's just the little red circle. And he's smoking in the dark.

I was actually curious because I thought it was referencing a bit of it. It's actually about a decade earlier this movie to the Kitty Genevase thing. Oh, yes, yes. It is very like, it's the, it's in a courtyard

and all the apartment because she's even screaming like, who saw it? Somebody had to see something. Instead of kitty, Genoves, it's doggy, Genevese.

Oh, no. Puddles, Genevase. From the three point line. That's why they tell you, though, to scream fire.

Yes. Instead of help, which is a real mark on our society. Help, I don't know what's going on. He's got a problem with a vending machine. That's why some vending machines I'm not going to look outside my window.

I don't got an extinguisher. I can't help with that fire. Right Homer. Trapped in vending machines, got it. Yerick used to help me like, pockets for a change. I can't do nothing. Buy a vending machine.

I don't have any quarters. They're probably looking for someone to buy chips to knock down the candy bar. Help. Help! Help! Only the chips can get it down. Does anybody have 60 cents?

The stickers is lingering. At one point, Doyle comes back, right? Yeah, everything's checked out. He's like, Mr. Thorwald's no more of a murderer than I am, which it's like, you're clearly a murderer. You were in the war as well. Yeah, you've got some fucking souls hanging off your neck.

He comes back because he made, he, I love that where James Sturt gets really like roiled up because he sees. Thornwald with the shirts. He's like, new shirts. Oh, my God. He calls the wife and he's like, you get him, don't tell him what happened. Tell him to come to my apartment. We have new shirts here.

Yes, exactly. It's pretty funny. And he comes over and this is when she's wearing the negligee and it's very much like a, well, am I interrupting something? Am I going to have some brandy and we'll see what happens? That's amazing the exit of it though because it's definitely

I'm going to go home and have sex with my wife but pretend it's Grace Kelly because he's like fucking just like drooling looking at her in the negligee and then he goes oh I gotta go home now he can't stop fidgeting with

the brandy sniffter just constantly circling it during that scene and he like swirls it all over himself like an idiot dude's got no fucking chill that's the cum right there when it comes when it swirls out and it gets on them that's the come that's what that's that's what that's

The semiotics of the scene is, you understand. He's swirling around. What swirls around, come in your balls. Swirling, swirling, swirling until, boop. Usually, it stays in the balls, right? Like a sniffler, you would keep it. The cognac would stay in there. But every once in a while, it just explodes.

You know, it's always a fight between the pee that is stored in the balls and the cum. It's a duality of man. They fight. At night, they fight. other uh so they put a note over on thorwald's door uh what have you done with her which is great and then they watch him get the note or whatever and it's kind of awesome he's like he's talking to thorwald like just to himself basically while he watches and he's like yeah you did it thorwald you did it all right i know what you did this summer i know exactly what you

did this summer you and your fisherman outfit you had on your little hook hand how come sheriff, Grady. How come? A couple of billboards out here in Emick, Missouri. So, Burr like runs down the hall at this point and, like, goes downstairs and he's, you see him like running through

the apartment while Grace Kelly is outside and like she gets back out or whatever. And while this is going, so this is amazing because Grace Kelly is, Lisa is in the situation where she's over there and she's yet to go in, but that's about to happen. She takes it upon herself to get to the apartment. But while

that's going on, Jeff and Stella are distracted because this is the exact moment where Miss Lonely Hearts has the big handful of sleeping pills in her hands. Stella goes over there, they go over there to check the dog, and then Stella goes back to the apartment, right?

Stella comes, Stella runs back. They check out, yeah, you're thinking about they dig around the rose bushes. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's how it starts. And then Lisa goes up and does this amazing move to get into that apartment. Dude, yeah, this is some fucking ninja turtle shit getting into this place.

I wouldn't trust myself. And she did all, Grace Kelly did her own stunts. I wouldn't do that. Like, even just... Yeah, dude, it's fucking dangerous. Five floors up, four floors up. It's pretty funny when he's on the phone and he's trying...

He's saying Thorwald's phone number because he's whispering and he's like, Chelsea, 27099. Charlesie. Like, he's telling a ghost story. Honestly, like, if Grace Kelly was in trouble, I would just, you're supposed to call

Thornewald's number when he gets back. I would do that. Miss Lonely Hearts, you had a good life. I'm sorry it's over. Yes. But she doesn't do it anyway, so he tells the cops to go to Thorwald. Well, he tells Thorwald.

We are, yeah, we're getting a little, it's fine, because a lot of these scenes like look exactly the same, and do the exact same thing. But he does the crank call and he's like, did you get my note? We're going to settle the estate of your dead wife.

Meet me at this hotel bar. I looked it up. The Albert Hotel is still there. Is a real hotel in the village. I wonder if it's got a nice bar. It might. It's still, it's one of those, it's kind of like the plaza now

where it's like part hotel. And same with like the Chelsea Hotel. It's part apartment. Also, the first hotel bar to give you a free pizza when you went down there and had a little, a gin cherry strumpet. I had a map of all the food

you could get at the bars. It was pretty good. Lobster Thermidor, wherever you went. But also, if you're trying to get Grace Kelly some time, don't say fucking some hotel in the village. Go, oh. Uptown, baby. Oh, I'm going to be at the plaza. I got a suite. Ask for Grady.

Exactly. Go to the oak room at the Plaza Hotel. You might run into Carrie Grant North by Northwest up there. The passwords for Delio. Go to Albany. You know what it came in handy here is a men at work style pellet gun. Yes.

When Thorwald gets back and starts manhandling her. Shoot him in the butt. Yeah. A butt shot. Exactly. I think Bennett Work is a little bit inspired by a rear window. Well, he's doing some people at the beginning of the movie. Two great films.

So we see what's going on. They go to like dig up the flowers. Yeah, nothing goes on there. I love when he does call Doyles and it's like the babysitter. the lady's like, I don't know. They're going out to dinner and a club, probably getting fucked up. About 11.30? I don't know when they're going to be back.

Well, you just tell them, Jeffrey. He's dumb. Just come over. Immediately. Bring it the wife. But so it turns out, oh, stupid Stella, she was wrong about Ms. Lonely Hart. See, she's just sitting there at her desk writing a letter for no reason. She's not going to commit suicide anytime soon. She's all talk. We'll be fine. Don't worry about it.

No big loss anyway. The 29 crash wasn't that big a deal. but she uh this is where lisa climbs up the fire escape like a lunatic yeah and she's snooping around the apartment there has been this um red purse that uh uh burr has still been holding on to and so she takes that looks i love the turns it upside down bull nothing in it you know nothing a woman would a woman wouldn't leave her house without her purse she must be dead exactly where she left her her wedding i mean they had huge marital problems but if she's not wearing it right now she must

She didn't bring her makeup dead Absolutely dead What about that little hat on her head? Oh my God, she's dead She doesn't have a little pillbox hat She left it So we see lonely hearts Take the pills

And LB calls the cops right here And she's about to do it And then she hears the music That the composer's been working on And it stops her Which is really nice The cops come to Thorwald's or whatever He's in there

Like harassing Grace Kelly right now shoving her on that couch like doing all of that some beds about to go down yeah uh throws her on the couch and this is great because she's screaming for jeff this guy what the hell you don't touch my my lady friend not even i do that this is where your spot is blown up entirely jeff and you just go to the window and start screaming thorwald get your hands off my girlfriend like the jig is up right yeah but instead she's screaming jeff jeff jeff jeff he doesn't say shit and except stella what did we do really quietly it's perfect right that's the whole voyeurism thing he's powerless like this is now happening in the real world it's happening to him but that's what

i'm saying it is this fucking game is shattered yeah go to the window and start screaming just like the dog lady did and get every neighbor to the window she must be screaming uh for another jeff my name is not jeff it's lb yeah lewis or whatever yeah oh it couldn't be me uh but so we see when the cops do come and they're we what i love is again you don't hear whatever bullshit yarn grace Kelly is spinning here. It's all just whatever Jeff can take in. And I love to have the subtitles on and it's just all like mumbled talking is what it says or whatever.

But we see he's got the lens out again and we zoom in and Grace Kelly's got the ring like on her finger behind her back. But we then see Thorwald sees she's signaling to somebody and then he looks up out the window. God damn. Right into the lens of the can't. It's fucking awesome. Hold on.

I think that masturbate is involved. The whole time, I was just I mean, I knew he was jerking off over there, but I had no idea he was keeping tabs on me. You call me the masturbator? I go to the salesman. Oh, hey, how about that? That's funny. Well, let's get a picture. The salesman and the

masturbator together. It's actually, it's L.B. And you're laws? Oh, that's nice. And actually, it's not masturbating in particular. It's gooning, you understand. It's about delaying the orgasm to an insane level. Well, L.D., there's so much you're going to teach me. I cannot wait for this friendship to flourish.

Take me to jail, please. Far away from this man. Oh, the death penalty, if you will. But speaking to take it to jail, Lisa's arrested right here. And so he calls... Doyle calls back. He calls... He returns their call from the floor.

Here's a latest curveball here. Doyle, my fucking ugly girlfriend got arrested. I love how he's gathering bail money to go get it. He's like, yeah, you might not need that. Right. I'm going to go down and use my cop powers. get that fixed but corruption thorwald this is the greatest part thorwald calls the apartment but lb thinks it's doyle again and he picks the doyle you're not saying it oh you're not saying it

oh no hello and it's just so eerie so creepy and you know it's thorwald and he was talking about thorwald to thorwald yeah it's so good and then like this whole i mean this is the end of the movie right here this final this final moment and i love the way this all plays out because again no score. Genius to not have the score because all you have to rely on are the sounds and you hear like the front door to the building open and you hear the steps

on the staircase as he's coming up and fucking Jeff is wheeling around this apart. What do I do? Where can I hide? What can I do? And he just has to grab his fucking flash bulb and replacement bulb set and back up as far as he can and hope this

giant doesn't strike. Here fact, I have a ballad of sandwich. I have some of that. Only one slice. You think one slice will distract me? I'm only 170 pounds. And you know that BMI thing is totally racist on top of everything else. It's been bullshit.

I'm not fat. God damn it. Yeah, okay, tubby crime. Damn it. God damn it. I'm going to kill you. It's chilling too where, like, he, Stuart, like, he just says nothing in that chair when he comes in. Because Lars, you know, Lars, what do you want for me?

Yeah, like, what is, do you want money? I don't have money. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just very interesting there. And then, of course, the flashbulb thing is genius. It's so great. And he's just getting blinded. And, you know, the only thing that's missing, it's not missing. I guess that's the wrong way to put it. What I was adding in my head foolishly is the Texas chainsaw. Yes. Yeah. Uh-huh. Like, I was just doing that. But yeah, he's blinded and blinded. But there's only so much that he can do to, you know, prevent this big man from coming at him. orange circle thing is pretty eventive uh it looks awesome and then uh yeah he fucks around and finds out because thorwald lifts him up out of his chair strangling him i'm going to throw you out of the window like a baby uh and yeah he fucking throws him right out the rear window and i was wondering is this the shortest distance we've ever used that rear

projection falling technique probably because it's like 10 feet yeah but at the same time it's always so charming when I see it. It's funny though because it's like we've seen it used Saboteur the guy falls off the Statue of Liberty north by northwest they're falling off of Mount Rushmore there but this is just like I fell off my second floor window

into a garden I exactly but yeah so we get like the just the recap here oh you got enough for a search warrant now Thorwald's ready to take us on a tour of the East River Doyle says this is interesting I saw this on an on MDB about the

the moment where he doesn't say anything. Hitchcock had an interview with Bogdanovich. He said that he had more sympathy for Thorwald, a lot of antagonists, specifically Thorwald, who was just minding his own, albeit murderous business, while Jeff interfered. Yes. Hitchcock went on to say that he hoped,

he wanted to share sympathy during the confrontation with Thorold and Jeff. With Donald asked him what he wants and why he's doing this, Jeff remains silent. Hitchcock concluded by saying, during that moment, it makes one think, you know he is really kind of a bastard. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, Jeffries is a bastard.

Oh, man. Leave him alone. He just killed one woman. And you don't know what was going on in that house. He was hand-packing him. And it was a good plan. Look, that wasn't just like, oh, I'm just going to kill her and throw her out in the garbage. No, no, no, no, no, no.

He thought a couple of days about that plan. One of the other cops has that line about the hat, like, whatever was buried in the garden is now in the hat box. It's a hat box in his apartment, to which I think it's Stella goes, I don't want any part of it. and then immediately realizes the faux which is so great. But then we see like the wrap up of all the neighbors, right? Miss Lonely Hearts goes up to the composer. You hear her say like, the music meant so much to me or touch me or like, you know,

whatever it is there. He's recorded this song. Thorwald's apartment is being painted over and new people are coming. And that's, I love that, right? That is the march of New York City real estate. Every apartment someone's been murdered in. Of course, in this, in rear window, colon the neighbors. This is when you would find out that Miss Lonely Hearts was actually having a

fair with Thornewold. Thornwalled. It had all been theater for Jeffreys. The overheated married couple on the top floor is pushing their luck once again, training a new puppy to get in the basket for this fucking laziness. I hate it. Yes. And then of course, Stanley returns from the war.

Looking exactly like Rick Moranus here, which is great. Which is, it's kind of funny because their dynamic is very much Rick Moranus and, oh, man. From Little Shop? No, in Ghostbusters, Casey Kasem's wife is the blonde woman. Nobody's dancing. It's almost the same kind of tall, blonde and skinny, short nerdy guy or whatever. But yeah, he comes back from the war, which is great. And then L.B, both legs in the cast with Grace Kelly just sleeping on the sofa next to him.

He's probably still miserable about it, but dude's got a good life right here. She starts reading the... Oh, she's reading the magazine, that's what it is. But she was reading one about, like, adventure or whatever. And then when he falls asleep, she moves over to the fashion management. Yes, she switches for, yeah, it's beyond the high Himalayas, and then it's bizarre magazine. They're going to push this failed relationship a little further, just a little bit further. Yeah, and there's some song that's playing on a radio that's just like, oh, in your arms, oh, Lisa.

Isn't it another version of Mona Lisa? Oh, is it? Yeah, yeah. I just heard the Or Lisa part. I think. I don't know. but yeah so that is the end of the movie that is where it ends because back in the 50s movie is ended properly so the story is over and there's no fucking two years later thorwald's out of prison with his knuckles tattooed that's neighbor season two oh right yeah oh that's that's what it is the end of neighbor season one raymond burrs just getting out of jail like side show bob that's season three season two takes place in jail with thorwald from the perspective of other cells watching oh dude because we really wanted to you know we want to show how the american

prison system it is really it's cancerous it's it's really it's we got to explore these things in TV shows oh man but yeah that is the end of the movie we go around the horn here for some final thoughts and recommendations on what is the first of our we love movies month entries eric siska it's very good i mean if you know hopefully you watched it before you listen to this if you haven't still worth going back and watching and exploring hitch filmography honestly it's some of the best movies ever made i mean uh i think a year or two we go we did north by northwest as well so that's also on your homework assignment

honestly you can't go wrong with hitchcock so obviously this is great what is this our third hitchcock because we did psycho yeah it's our third north and this yeah that's a so third one uh chris cabin final thoughts oh yeah it's i mean it's great it's any of the big hitchcocks it's great like even the ones i'm like less big on i'm like that's an incredibly made like the catch a thief incredible made movie yeah it's not as striking as something like this or marney or any of the

the big ones but it's still a really great movie and yeah as eric said i would say like essentially all the american stuff for sure but like yeah some of the british stuff even is really oh some of the british stuff is fucking uh absolutely just whatever um criteria like they they have a quite a lot of foreign courts bought it's a good starting place yeah great great movie all that's worth it and yes this of course is very much worth

it steve say yeah it was i you know a little underseen on my part like i get i haven't seen it in probably 20 some odd years so it was like a real kind of a fresh watch and It's really exciting. It really holds up. It's, you know, the voyeurism stuff isn't overdone. It definitely is resident now, again, with the true crime stuff. And, like, just sort of like the idea, again, also like this amateur kind of like tough. He's kind of a tough guy online, right?

He's like, I'm going to put that guy away. And then this guy shows up. When, you know, Grace Kelly's in trouble, his jaw is on the floor, which I think is a better way for Hitchcock. That's what Hitchcock's talking about it. not like you could make him like even like oh I'm in a wheel track and still beat your ass you know what I mean or even like him trying to go down the stairs

or do some heroic much like much like Bart of Darkness exactly like if he had this heroic moment but no he's not a coward but he's just not of that world and he's asserting himself into it and I love the way that that dynamic plays out it's really it's smart it's fresh again

it's really resonant and it's beautiful did we mention it with the two casts I love that that is both his lights are broken both his legs are broken oh man now the ball funk is really hitting into overdrive that's like now he's got seven more weeks or more than that to get all of his other neighbors arrested and yes we explore that each in every apartment someone's getting arrested because this guy's thinking on him for some reason um yeah no i'm not going to say anything different it's great like i said top five hitchcock for me easily love me some james stewart love me some grace kelly

love me some fucking raymond burr man yeah very good but that is going to do it for this episode we love movies the whole month y'all we are doing we love every tuesday uh and if you want more of that including episodes like this very one uh without those darn commercials you can head over to patreon patreon patreon dot com slash we hate movies every new tuesday episode that comes out is available on their sands commercials we also uh because this is we love movies month the uh the normal we love movies monthly entry gets flipped to we hate movies of course and that is uh just a few days from now. Thursday, if you're listening to this on the day it comes out, the Tuesday that it comes out,

Thursday the 6th, get ready for us talking about the Book of Henry. My God. Shit show. Kind of a rear window adjacent movie. A little shit boy sees something that he shouldn't. Making assumptions about the neighbors that yes, are right, but it's none of your business, kid.

And yeah, that movie really goes some places. So that was a fun as hell episode, so you're definitely going to want to make sure you tune in Thursday for that. All month long, we're doing amazing we love versions of our beloved side shows here including animation damnation

we got a big one Steve Sadeck Beavis and Butthead do America this is our first time talking to Beavis and Budhead in a big way right we've got to I think we ever did an episode on AD which is cool you know what I mean it'd be fun to just sort of dig in there and like that's a really great movie it holds up it's so fucking funny

to this day just there is not a unfunny second of that movie so that's going to be a lot of fun over on the Nexus we got a big motion picture chat yes we are doing Star Trek 6 Undiscovered Country, which is one of my very favorites. It's up there, man.

Yeah. And it'll be the final of the original series movies that we will have done, right? That's right. Okay, yeah. At that moment, we will have them. Most of them are on Patreon. I think at least maybe one of them is on here. I think we unlocked Rath of Khan or something. It sounds about right. And five is on here on this feed way back way. Oh, right. Five was just a

we hate movies episode. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, well, that's great. So yeah, if you're, if you can't find a Star Trek TOS movie on our feed, it's on the Patreon, as well as First Contact. Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. First Contact as well. One of the best ones. And then, so

Gleap Glossary this month is very special. We're going to talk to people about this. We are releasing the first ever actually live Gleap Glossary. I've done fake live ones. Plenty of fake ones, sure. But this one was recorded in July at the Oxford Comedy Festival

in Oxford, England. It was sold out. Shocked to me that that many people were interested in hearing me read about Darth Vader, but it's a very fun episode. It's a big big stinking episode. And it can't contain, it's not containable on the Patreon. So we are unlocking

it. It's going to be available on both feeds the free feed and the Patreon feed. And to make up for that, we'll have a second, smaller, fun little entry on a blaster rifle. For people who maybe hate live podcasts, Patreon will still get an episode of the Gleap Glossary

that's going to be a fun weird experiment which is what these episodes have become exactly right so there would still be some exclusivity yes on this one's sleep glassery although I will say I've listened to the cut of the show it took me right back man that was

a great great night and it's very good auto quality is wonderful so absolutely get your get ready to have your preconceptions about Darth Vader shattered as shattered I was I was really I was so fucking disappointed

yes there was an emotional journey It was fucking sucked. It's, I'll be, but we're not changing anything for Melro 2 and O. Yes. We're just doing the same mold. We're going, but, uh, prom fallout. Prom fallout. Finally, we're going to find out if fucking, uh, Donna is going to be able to graduate, I guess.

Uh, and then Melrose, the fires continue. We're going to find out if Joe's baby remains in Kim's, uh, clutches or somewhere else. Clutches is a good way to put it. We will figure that out, of course. Yeah. Uh, and also just at the end of last month. Oh, right. We released our very first Scarity Cats ever, which is a video and audio show where we're tackling new horror movies.

We started with Zach Krueger's Barbarian, a big, fat, awesome episode of content. We're also doing these After Dark Hangs. We did one last month. We're going to do one this month on Veterans Day, November 11th at 8 p.m. There you go. Eastern time. No free anything for the veterans. You have to also contribute to the Patreon to partake in the After Dark.

cuting hangout session. But these are fun man, it's just us shooting the breeze, vibing, imbibing, you know, talking about whatever you guys want us to talk about. So they've been, we've done two so far, real fun on the 11th. Yeah, so just next week, we'll have the next one. Speaking of the next week, by the way, same night, same

day that we're going to do this After Dark. We're releasing the next We Love Movies episode that Tuesday morn, which will be? Oh, we're going to finally learn how I got these scars. That long, long last. It is The Dark Night, Christopher Nolan's opus of Batman.

That's right. And you know what's crazy in like a little over two years that movie is going to be 20 years old? Yikes. What's crazy too is like I think a little over two years ago we did, Batman Begins. That's right. That's right. We're doing it. So we're getting back.

Yeah, the dark night. We will see. Steve, I heard you somewhere say that even the ferry scene worked for you on your most recent rewatch. I saw it in theaters at the museum of the moving. image and it really blew my socks off on the big screen. You didn't like the fairies? I was always like, oh, that's the one that I would probably take back, yeah. Yeah, that's kind of how

I felt about it too. So we'll see, it's been a really long-ass time since I've re-watched this, very excited to revisit and reevaluate like we always do here. But yes, next week the dark night, I'm almost at the dark night returns. We're returning to the world of the dark night. There is. That's how it goes. So until next week with Heath Ledger and the rest

of them. I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadeck. Eric's Lister. Take it easy. You know, and