We Hate Movies - S16 Ep831: The Dark Knight (2008, W❤️M)

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

“It’s like the Empire Strikes Back of Batman films…” - Andrew  On this week’s massive episode, we’re finally talking about one of the biggest blockbusters of all time, The Dark Knight! How amazing was Heath in this? Could these fake Batman losers find some… employment in 2025? Would a drug dealer slinging Scarecrow’s Fear Toxin actually have repeat customers? Does the CGI on Two-Face hold up? How awesome is all the vehicular carnage in this movie? And who among hasn’t wanted to WHOOP in the theater watching the semi-truck scene? PLUS: The Nolan Brothers hit up White Castle!  The Dark Knight stars Christian Bale, Aaron Eckhart, Michael Caine, Maggie Gyllengaal, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Monique Gabriela Curnen, Ron Dean, Cillian Murphy, Chin Han, Nestor Carbonell, Eric Roberts, Ritchie Coster, Anthony Michael Hall, and Heath Ledger as the Joker; directed by Christopher Nolan.  This episode is sponsored by Sonos! This holiday season, discover how easy it is to bring every room to life with incredible sound. Explore Sonos speakers, soundbars, and more at sonos.com! Get your tickets to our 15th Anniversary show this December where we’re talking all things Arnold in Total Recall! It’s gonna be a gas and we wanna see you there! Click through for tickets now! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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We'll see you on the 6th of December. It's pretty extraordinary. This week on the program, it's kind of like the Empire Strikes Back of Batman movies. It's the Dark Night. I'm Andrew Juppin. they're worse than ever now i'm stephen sadak eric siska i'm chris campin of course excellent and we love movies Hello everyone. Welcome to We Love Movies.

Thank you for tuning into the Fime program, as always. That's right. Week two of our We Love Movies Month has us finally, finally addressing a Batman film. At long last. The biggest movie? I think it's the biggest one. This one? This is the biggest. I think this is the biggest. Of the Batman or the movies? Movies. I think it's one of the, I may be one of is a good qualifier, but like at least of the since 2000 hit.

I mean, I am still, this is now 2005. This movie came on 2008. Do you say this is now 2005? Oh, I'm sorry. No, this is not 2025. I've got to check my war. I'll be walking into the ocean later tonight. You can warn us about the recessions.

Just like, if I can go back to 2005. the fucking Iraq war already started when I can try to figure out some other stuff None of us would believe you though Not a single one No so it's 2025 in 2008 Oh I even forgotten now what the fuck In 2008 we're going to talk about this

I am legend legendary Well sure that's one reason we fucking saw that movie in theaters The only reason Was it me and you? I was there too wasn't me I still have not seen I am legend You're good Wow you are totally fine

Save it for the episode So the three musketeers here, we went to see... Now, kids, most people listening were born after 2008. So this is Peapaw taking his teeth out to tell you a story. Oh, absolutely. Gather around, Sprets. They were playing, like, the first eight minutes or seven minutes. It was just the clown heist at the start. Yes.

Before I Am Legend in IMAX and, you know, Chris Nolan with the 70 millimeter, we all rolled out to see that movie specifically to see a trailer for basically just to watch like the opening scene of this movie. And it rocked and then the rhyme legend sucked and then that sucked as well because you're amped to watch a great movie. You've been watching a great movie for six to

eight minutes and then here comes Will Smith and bad subpar Blade 2 vampire shows up. When the decline kind of was confirmed like you know you get one I robot out there you can let it slide it's Will Smith

you know once you hit something like i am legend i mean again i i've seen blips of it on tv but like just generally everybody's like oh no he's is he gonna make another good movie or we're we're oh is it ever are we getting back there when you're sitting around in a big multi-million dollar hollywood movie going oh the fucking public domain vincent price version of this movie is way better that's a huge problem 10 times the movie a hundred times a movie jesus i had just rewatch this movie a month and a half ago because though, the MoMA had it. The MoMA. That's the Museum

of the Modern. Remember, people are... Apologies. Did you have your newspaper bag, which is? I did not. You have some soup? I did not. The Museum of the Modern Art was doing a Michael Cain series and like a fucking loser. I was like, I'm going to get so bad. You know how embarrassing it for them? I bet this was the most

popular movie. Oh, of course it was. The Michael Kane retrospect. There was a guy behind... It was like an afternoon Saturday screening, like Saturday at like four or something, or maybe even earlier. He backed smelled crazy in there. He packed smell crazy. There were two older ladies behind me. And then this guy who was about my age.

And then he turned to them and he was like, were you guys here on Wednesday? And then she, this woman's like, no. And he's like, oh, I was at the screening for this on Wednesday too. Oh, no. Double tip. She was like, oh, a different Michael. No, no, this one. I was here for this one.

It's just my favorite movie. And I just, I want to apologize in advance if I, whoop during. the truck heist sequence. It's my favorite sequence in the movie. No, you got your whooping out on Wednesday. Clearly, this is part of his fetish. Like, yeah, you got to process these things. You should have got the whooping out of your system

in 2008. I don't announce to the crowd you're going to be in the way. You can't be whooping at an almost 20-year-old movie. But if you'd throw out a whoop or two, you know, maybe it flies under the radar. I guess he was afraid that people were going to be there from Wednesday and crucify him because he did such crazy whooping

on Wednesday. Also, this is a museum, sir. Let's keep them whooping to a minimum. Wednesday, they were throwing stuff at me with each whoop. Don't worry about it. They whoop about Picasso every time. It's incredible. I have to say, though, that kind of stuff is a really genius on the MoMA curators because, like, you can easily leave out shit like that. Oh, sure. Right? But it's great because that's how you get like younger people, people who might not be a member to your museum's, you know, programs and everything. Like, you get them to come mean and then you get him to stay for the Italian job

come on go see get Carter it's worth it I swear I will say that it was incredible to watch it on the big screen again for the first time and forever it was on film that's also why I went and it was just an awesome experience and I was like am I gonna have to watch it again and then last I was like I've watched it again you know what I mean

totally oh no it's incredibly rewatched I mean that is one of of its many all of the positives you can rewatch this movie nonstop. I mean, I remember the first time I saw it was down at, I think it was the bay. It was

not Kipps Bay, but it was all way. We all went. No, it was the, it was the, it was the regal Battery Park. Battery Park. That's far down. Yes, battery Park. And remember the air conditioning was broken in the theater? Because I will always fucking fucking fucking fucking

Pits were like fucking going. A friend of ours, by that. A friend of us who's been put on blast right now. I'll be fucking bleeping out the name. This is Oh, he's fine. Like, he gives this shit. No, it's a loving thing.

I remember this as part of it, as the whole experience. It's like rank-ass smell as a watcher. You want to know how I got this B.O. I rushed to the dark nightsegan thing and then waited for an hour in line. My father worked at the Regal Battery Park. Why so smelly? Large is 50 cents more. I remember also

They had totally They had no idea I think this is one of the most crowded Like opening night things I've ever attended Because they had no idea What to do with the crowds If you recall We were like corralled in front of the auditorium

Where we were going to be let in While like the screening was still going on And people were like sitting on the floor There was nowhere to go It was fucking crazy Kids ask your grandparents This is before assigned seating So you just showed up and got in line

Like these bigger movies, dude, yeah Someone would make the sacrifice Like get there the earliest of everyone else A beautiful time Yes, you would have to work for it And back then movies were worth working for Yes, they were right And now you buy your ticket a month in advance, you know what I mean?

Or people actually speaking of Christopher Nolan, People bought up those Odyssey tickets on the IMAX already Here and advanced, dude, it pisses me on That's annoying That's ridiculous and annoying But enjoy it, I guess you ought to see ticket buyers you're going to be one of those guys

oh were you here on Wednesday because I was here on Wednesday that's who's buying those tickets I was whooping the first time they showed Matt Damon on that raft I'll see it a week or too late and then the whooping will be out of your sister at that point

I think you just got to get Nolan out there to do a greeting hello there to you whoopers out there you will be oh trust me there will be a lot of whooping in the Odyssey it's like the Minecraft movie

don't do the chicken thing on this screening. You got it out of your system in the last five. Man, Chris, now you just made me think, though, what does it sound like to have Christopher Nolan say whoopers? Oh, there's a hoop. It's a whoo. We got to get him

to be booked at the gathering of the juggalo so he could say wot-f-wut or whatever they do. I didn't know. I didn't appreciate the whoops in Oppenheimer, but still, I respect what you do and I love what you did for Tenet. That's also not why Florence gets naked in that film for the whooping.

Apologies. There goes Nagasaki. Whoop, whoop. Actually, I think I kind of got the equivalent of an op-y-whoop when she takes her fucking tits out in that, what? No way. Because the first time I saw it, remember? I was in the first road.

No, fucking Lincoln Square, but I was in the front road because I didn't buy my tickets a year in advance. And some dude, those fucking titty's come out. This dude, fucking fist popped the air. Oh, come on. And I was like, dude, we're all acknowledging what's going on here. And we all know it's awesome, but fucking keep it together. Act like you've been there.

before. Exactly. You saw a tit once before. I know what is your first fucking parrot tits? Keep together. You're in public for Christ sake. I mean, this is why Nolan is a genius is that he is, he tricks you into whooping. Because all those stumps before the fucking thing, he's getting the fucking whoopers are about

to whoop. And of course, it's the most, it would be the most tasteless time to whoop. But you're going to woo. Well, you know, David Goyer and I, when we were working on the trilogy, we really, we marked out where the whoops were going to be first. And And then we wrote the story after, you understand. It was really important to know where the hoops were coming.

It's a good screenwriting tick there. You know, start with the whoops and work backwards. Oh, man, and you have, like, handheld camera footage of, like, behind the scenes, each star of the doing, oh, a whoop. Yeah. Oh, yes. Matt Damon soon, whoop. With the sword up. Listen, this is your marketing campaign, maybe universal.

But here's the way to start Last night I was just like I guess I want to watch this movie And then it just you start here The tucker tucker tucker thing And like it starts with an amazing stunt And that's what what I watch it in theaters again The stunts in this movie are fucking incredible

They really are and they look good Most of them are real You know what I mean Like it's all the You put a dude on the top of a high building And just film him standing there for a little bit Instantly raises the quality of your movie it's hard to criticize this movie a lot

but like one thing it's less like I would wish it got a little more graphic like when he's cut and gambles like let's go a little more with the violence I know why you're not it's a consistent issue with him it's it's always been the issue is that like the blood is just not there

and I think it's I was most weirded out by it not being there in Dunkirk if there was ever the movie you're going to do it and it would be like completely justified it's your fucking I got to go back to that. I remember liking it.

I like Dunkirk fine. It's really when I began loving him as Oppenheimer, Tenet, or those are the two where I was like, oh, I love this guy. I love what he's doing. This movie here didn't do it, Memento? I mean, I really like this movie and I really like Memento, but like he, my issues with this movie are a lot of my issues with, I mean, all of his movies between those, between Memento and essentially Tennett and Oppenheimer is his editing.

I don't think, I think he edited. too much. I think he is, it's too mechanical. It's too dry in a lot of ways, but like... I could see that being a little dry. There's a precision to the editing, but I'll tell you what, a benefit of that precision, though, is that you can follow shit that's going on. Absolutely. You can

imagine if the, our Woopers' favorite scene where the truck flips, you know, the whole dent chase there, like if that was like real quick cutting, like if that was cut like a scene from a Fast and Furious movie, oh boy, it's really bad. Yes. And I think that kind of editing works for

those movies but like for this kind of thing I would argue it doesn't but it is 10 times I mean it's still better edited than 10 maybe more maybe more appropriate for those movies also and I was still the clockworky nature of Nolan which I do agree can either be a fault or

a feature depending on how you I view it which is true and but I think that's what allows Heath Ledger to stand out even more because he's just so grimy and gritty and very unlike a Nolan character no one thought he could do it at the time now now this is people talking about the past again

but like you know I guess Keaton underwent the same thing playing being cast as Batman in 89 there was no internet at the time but the internet in 2006 seven we're like I don't think Heath Ledger the guy from the little baby romcams that and I mean

Brokeback Mountain guy but he fucking rocked it and he's great and broke no he is but that was the same that was the same thing oh you mean the guy from brokeback's going to be he was a homophobic punchline for a couple of years you know what I mean like not to be rude but Like, I can't quit you and blah, blah, blah. Oh, a gay cowboy's going to be the Joker, dot, dot, dot.

They even came after a night's tale for that shit. Perfectly fine. Were you whooping during a night's tale? I might have whooped a couple. Paul Bettney might have made me whoop a two. One or twice is like, excuse me ladies, we're here on Wednesday for the night's tail screening. Do you want to stop with me? I want to go synchonated stop.

That movie is pretty fun. I enjoy that movie quite a bit. This beginning is super cool. I will say the, and apparently that a lot of the voices with the IMAX cameras had to be 80 yard because they're really loud. Oh, yeah.

These dudes really sound like, all right, press the triangle button to get your inventory going. They're 100% like GTA sidekick guys. But I still like that too. And one on the roof. I do. You hear about this guy, the Joker?

You know, if you're looking inside the booklet, there's a lot more about the Joker. He wears makeup. makeup, you know, like war paint to scare people. Yeah, war paint, that's pretty great. Yeah, press R3. I know it's one of the most annoying controllers on a PlayStation girl. Pushed down

R3. Yeah, pushing down a motion stick's kind of annoying, isn't it? But you've got to do it if you want to activate the bat goggles. Of course, I mean, like there are parts of this that are so video game, like going to Lucius Fox to get the super

surveillance thing. That is the part of the movie this time. I will say this time. I've criticized it, I think, since 2008, just this afternoon, the fairy has worked for me. There you go. What didn't work this time was the Lucius Fucked because it's so video game didactic. All right, Mr. Wayne, on the next level, you have this many people. Now remember, of course, the doctors are the gangsters and the clowns are the hostage.

What do you mean I type my character's name at the end? Usually you do that at the beginning. Oh, maybe I'm going to get a high score. I put my name in at the end. Let me put ass instead. Oh, wait, the machine's not closing down? You can only use the super goggles for this one level. If you were to use them against the big boss, of course he'd be easy to destroy.

That's fair. Morgan Freeman's whole character is just to move that along. Yes. He's not a huge character. But he's better in the first movie. He's still got his fastball in this movie. Compared to like Morgan Freeman now and like the last... Compared to me now.

God damn. But even like the scene with the accountant guy and you mean to blackmail this boss? Dude, that's my love. That's great. That guy's shitting his pants in that office. It's awesome. But he is, to your point, he is Mr. Exposition.

Like, he has this, Mr. Wayne. He has that Mr. Wayne. He's a device. Yes. I love when there's sort of, I like the gag where they acknowledge the problems of previous Batman, even up to him doing Batman begins in the part where he's like, oh, you want to be able to turn your head.

Oh, I'll make you cowl differently. So you can do that comfortably as an actor, you see. But I love, dude, this is, of course, we've been fucking saying it for years. William Fickner is the bank manager, you and your friends are dead. Crooked bank manager awesome role to play. He's great. He's only got a small part, but super memorable.

Even just his reactions to like the first gunshots or whatever, his like startledness. Totally selling it as this bank person. And then you know when you first saw it, you know, it was sort of like, whoa, oh, wow, he's got a gun now. Like, what is this? Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty

great. You expect like a second and third act William Victor, unfortunately, you don't get it. That's okay. No, you don't. But I misremembered. I thought he, I forgot the little gas canister gag here. I thought he ate shit in this movie. Which also reminds me, has he been in any other Nolan movies? Good question.

Maybe not. I just remember him in that horrible Nolan rip-off the Rodriguez film with Ben Affleck. Hypnotic? Oh, yikes. He is in hypnotic. He's in film movies a lot. Hickner back to the big time. Come on, man. He's one of our greatest. Everybody's getting on in

years. Let's get him in real movies again. I always thought this was a nod to heat. This movie is, oh, it's a lot of heat. I mean, the blue alone. This is more, you mean this scenes? No, no, no, Fickner being in the movie is the nod to heat, aside from the rest of the movie, like, using a lot of heat to make the movie. But, like, this is like, this is Nolan being like, yeah, I know.

Yeah, I know. It made it very interesting, too, because it's like, I remember Nolan even talking about maybe even heat specifically about, like, how he wanted these movies to have, like, the weight of a, of an actual action movie for the 80s or whatever. Yeah. And, like, and it's so stylistically different than what we've had before. which was also good with, like, Tim Burton. Sure.

And even, even, uh, Joel Schumacher. Joel with this fucking juicy cock, Gotham, let's do it. Campy stuff. It's fun. It's what Batman used to be. I like, there's, I think there's avenues for all of them. And it's just very interesting to see this Nolan gritty crime version. Right.

Yeah, I think that the run of Batman movies, I think is the greatest example of like, it's okay to recast. It's okay to do different things. And it's okay to not have every single thing be connected to something else. Speaking of recasting, I was not missing Katie Holmes. No. Not that I did. Not that I did. I said some lines in a movie once.

Not that I dislike her, but it's just like, this is more proof. You can just recast them. It's not a huge deal. Yeah, I'm making fun. I think she's fine in that movie. I think Mags is better though. I mean, it's Maggie Gyllenhaal. She's fucking incredible. Yeah. I think I would get ahead of it. If the person that hired me was a deranged clown, he's

like, I want you to kill the guy you're working with. That way, we all get bigger shares. I would just, wait a second. I would be like this clown really likes me. You know what? Vest. I'm just, I'm going to wear a vest today. Why not wear a vest today? Yeah, you can guess this clown really likes me. Then you're getting shot the back of the head every you open the safe. It makes a very compelling opening and the masks and everything. I mean, it was reminding me a little bit today of, I haven't seen this

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disposable anyway. I don't get to know about these guys. And it's just great to see like, oh, the alarm guy and they all add their little flare to these scenes about like, oh, wasn't calling 911. It was calling a private number. The masks go to,

I mean, this is a movie about the legends versus reality. Like, it's, I mean, it's Liberty Valance stuff, you know,

it's, you know, the ending especially, like, he has to be the white night. He has to be it. Whatever happened here, him about to shoot

fucking Jim Gordon's son in the face. Which is funny as hell. Little Jimmy's about to eat a magnum sandwich for a late dinner. It's the time we start judging kids as adults. Yes. But yeah, I mean, that's i mean uh the the fact that like failure and lying being like things that come back to haunt you

is a huge thing for nolan yeah all of his movies are about that essentially uh but uh this one specifically it's really hard especially in that last act it's awesome you know we're talking about the guys they all sound like the kind of press acts to do this and i think one of the things that makes it worthwhile that they sound so silly is because when the joker finally speaks it's so different than that because they're talking funny, he told me something similar and like the one guy shoots the vault guy but then the Joker's first line

no, no, no, I killed the bus driver and the second you hear that voice you're like, oh no the Joker's been near the whole time I think you're totally right actually and you think about like I think that sort of like leads to his whole escalation thing there was the mob but now there's these freaks

et cetera and like we're using movie language to let you know with the carmine falconi in the past movie like Tom Wilkinson's really doing an Italian guy and like even the guy in the the Harvey Dent scene is like yeah I'm the brain to the operation like everybody there

is like this sort of stereotypical bad guy and then the new bad guys are the more interesting nuanced grittier version of the scarecrow scenes yeah doc I can't take it myself I'm gonna blow my brains out blah blah blah can I have a meatball on top of my head

Thank you, we cast an Englishman, right? Is that what Tom Welcomes? Yes, he's an Englishman. I forget where in the U.K. He's from, so I don't know. He's also passed away, so that's past twice. Oh, yes. That's right.

I'm sorry. He's great. It's fantastic. So, like, casting like a UK guy for that, and then also then casting a Mississippi guy for, you know, Eric Roberts here. It's funny because it's not, we're not going super Italian with him. No, we're not at all.

No, no. Oh, and yeah, Eric Roberts, you forget that he's in this movie. he's Maroni before, what's his face is Maroni? Clancy Brown is Maroney on the penguin. That's another, like, not really that Italian type of guy. No, not at all. That's just, you know, it's just avoided. Why hire an Italian?

It's difficult these days. And the Joker is funny, too, I think. Even his first moment with the bulls, like, how many, he's out, right? And then, like, I think he nod and he gets them. How do you learn to count? Like, it's a dark joke, but it's still like, there's jokes here, which work. I mean, you think you're going to just walk away from, yeah. That was so fucking good.

And then with Fickner, you know, like putting the gas grenade in his mouth and whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger. It's a, you know, maybe that's not as a very great line, but it's a great end to that a hell of a t-shirt. I'll tell you that much there. I'm sure you saw that at a water park or two. It's a hell of a t-shirt that Spencer Gifts. That's the problem.

I mean, that's the problem with this movie almost. And in as it's aged is, yes, it's. It's the, it's the, it's, the, whoop-whoopers. You live long enough to become a t-shirt, you know what I mean? And like, that's not, that's not what this movie's supposed to. And by the way, that line I totally forgot was about Caesar. Oh, yes. So, wait, you, you, you die a whooper or live long enough to become a super fan.

Yeah. Yeah, and those folks are tough. I mean, just the other day, I noticed a car of my neighbor that I've noticed before, like, on the block. So I've seen this car before. noticed that just the other day they got an added on Heath Ledger Joker's sticker to the car and it's like that became

it so quickly became the same dudes that like watch Scarface wrong or like don't finish the movie Scarface The guys that buy the painting that has Scarface Tony Soprano and the Joker having dinner together those kind of guys By the way if you're going to put that on your car whenever you signal to turn right you better turn left

you're an agent of chaos You better be fucking changing lanes without signaling. You better be fucking breaking erratically. Gross and banana peels out there, baby. It's actually most drivers now I'm realizing. I've got the aphorism. It's you either die in an Olson Twins bedroom or you live long enough to become a t-shirt. That's how it is.

I mean, you live forever as a t-shirt. She just fucking call the security guard instead of 911. It's weird. It's calling out to a private number instead of 911. She certainly called out to a private number that morning, friends. It's dark. He was stooping the Olsen club? I think he was just hanging out or, you know, who knows?

He had the countdown clock gone. No, they were of age at the time. Because he had separated from Michelle Williams. They were separated at the time. That's the last time I remember, I think, like watching the news for an extended period of time because, like, they had a camera. I don't know who, it must have been CNN or somebody had a camera outside, like, the apartment. Oh, yeah.

It was just there. It was a big, like a big celebrity, like died in New York. Like, it was a thing. What was the official story, sleeping pills or something? A mixture of sleeping pills and prescription meds that just didn't go right. Which is what you do on the road all the time, by the way. Just saying, see us while you can, folks. December 6th, December 6th, Bell House, Brooklyn, New York.

That's right. Does it always have to come back to we might die? I'll be hanging out. We will die. We've been doing this for, what, 15 years? That's right. For quite some time. We are dead.

I don't think so know it yet You and your friends are dead I mean but even what kills you makes you stranger It's just it's delivered well It's a cool line again it's been played to death But it's a cool line later You see his face Yes you know and it's a great reveal

Yeah When you go back to this movie It's kind of like how If you rewatch Reservoir Dogs You have to make your brain remember That that movie was the ground zero For stuff that ripped it off Yes

And you're not mad at Reservoir Dogs for all the shit that followed it. It's similarly here. Like, I didn't see this movie in seven years. Like, I looked it up on Letterbox. Seven years had gone by, and I put in the disc, and I was like, my goodness, this is great. And I was able to transcend all that annoyance because it's just there.

And the fandom is still the dude with the car, like, just last week. Like, it's still there. And at that moment, just two and a half hours watching this movie this afternoon, I was able to block all that out and be like, nope, this is the thing. All that other stuff is annoying, but it's not. this movie's fault and it's still great. Yeah, the movie's really good. So we get the Scarecrow meet with those

Ruski scumbags in the parking garage. Dogs are hungry! Yes! The subtitles identifying them as Chechens. Oh, is that right? Yeah. There we go. This guy who I love, the bad guy from Black Hat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Only look to Eric.

No, no. Guys, watch the movie. It's incredible. I really want to. It's an incredible movie. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, the scarecrow's been dealing his compound to these gangsters, which I feel is like to deal this as drugs without it being a grand plan to take over. Gotham is very weird. It's also a funny gag because the guy is like, my business is based on repeat customer. He saw his grandmother come back from grave, not very good. Like that's not, that's a bad shit you sold me. Igor, what the fuck? I'd never be

like, oh my God, Igor, the other night I took some of your stuff and I had this hallucination that my dead dog from childhood ate my body. More, please. Let me give you reviews I get Holocaust. Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust, every fucking time.

Oh, my God. I don't think people would be returning frequently for Holocaust. I'd rather do drop. Oh, yeah, I do. Let's get some drop. I do like that the scarecrow is like reduced to like a drug dealer now.

After all the events of everything in the last movie and I like that he's not in this that much but it is that connective tissue I appreciate it's a great connective tissue and I was thinking about this today too that kind of like quick appearance it's very comic book it's very they would do that on the cartoon like you'd start an episode he's foiling somebody but then like the mad hatter's not in the rest of the episode it's poison ivy for some reason so anytime those things can happen I'd like it and I love that like Killian Murphy didn't have to be like oh I'm only in like one scene fuck you

I mean, in so much as even in the third movie, he comes back in that appearance that was supposed to be a similarly smaller role for the Joker. Yeah, exactly. He fills in there which is nice. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's at that line of like, well, you know, if, well, if you don't like the product, you can get it from somewhere else if the Batman's left anyone left selling or whatever. Yeah. And so then we see there's all these fake Batman around here. And I do love,

Batman. That's the thing is we're not hearing quiet enough I'm not seeing elevators these are stairs you're going up here fellas I could watch a 40 minute deleted sequence of like just

these guys get the shit like going up you know a gang is like literally selling drugs on the street like not on my street and then getting the shit kicked out of them like eight kids absolutely if this movie started with like a news broadcast like montage of like the phony Batman

plague is sweeping Gotham and it's just fat guys getting the shit knocked out of them awesome oh man when the fucking video comes out of him fucking torture and Brian every man oh man go Joker go Joker go I was so happy

because you know all these dudes in fucking 15 20 years are joining ice they're the same losers it's the same impulse it's a little better I give you this is a more positive towards the community you want to know how I got this $50,000 signing that is more. Like if the

joker had tied up Kyle Rittenhouse on the news I would not really be crying about it. No. It'd be fine. You'd be fine. Speaking of fat vigilantes, um, Colerndhaus. He's a fat vigilantee these days. He looks like the Carl's big boy.

He does. He definitely does. He can be wearing hockey pads with these losers. I just imagine like somebody on Facebook. Do you know that Brian is one of those fake Batman? No, he's not. Stop. No, go on his Facebook. He's one of those fake Batman. Next time you're at Jennings, go to the garage.

Go in the garage and look behind the surfboard. It's right behind. It's this little bag. It's a little bag he keeps. Oh, look, see, it's right on his Facebook profile. Look, 1999 to 2007, Burger King. 2008 to now, fake Batman. See, do you see this? He has a quote from Alexander.

What do you think that's from? What do you think that brain is doing? The real Batmobile crashes and I do love scarecrows. Now that's more like it. Which is the first now that's more like it in this movie which is great. The first of two but yeah this is great.

The Batman bending the barrel of this rifle with this hand. What is the super mania he's come down with? I kind of love it. I like it but at the same time you're like well he's not Superman. Yeah exactly I guess. But is that what is that specifically what that mechanism

was built for? Oh like his hand. No it's like a there's a mechanism he's using to crush it. Oh, does he have a thing? He has a thing in his hand. There's a quick shot of it. Oh, I didn't even know. It's crushing the thing. Yeah, and I've seen this movie like 20 times. I guess I should have watched it on a Wednesday too.

No, I watched it this morning. You're too busy whooping. I was too busy whooping. I mean, I whooped through the whole scene. This is a huge whooping scene, to be fair. It is good. Batman, you know, famously never kills anybody. That's his big deal. He kills like six dogs in this movie. He is chucking these things. I love it. There are at least two you see two visual

confirmations of these dogs getting thrown in the last like big action sequence he throws a dog off a skyscraper construction site. Like the fucking joker uh fucking henchman in the first one. Yes. That's how he's going. In the end scene when they're all the way up those three dogs they're just getting chucked. Now I guys want some

Rottweiler looking like uh, what do you call it there? Alan, uh, from diehard uh, Alan Rickman just going down. Yeah. And then maybe you know like a, in the end of Batman 89, you get like the dead dog on the pavement and it's like whoof, woof, woof, whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff,

I was hoping that's what you were going to do. Keebles and bits, Kimball's and Biss. Something. He is killing these dogs. It is so funny. I can, Bacca, bacon, paca. It's exactly. Baga! Oh, it's fucking great. But yes, of course,

this, this dude, you know, Batman goes up to, or he's talking to Batman from far away after he gets everybody, you know, knocked out, tied up or whatever and he's like hey you inspire us you're just trying to help you you know I'm not wearing hockey pads the hockey pads line is so good which is great because

it really just like hockey pads like just you you know that this it's just a guy that looked through the garage I just picked out shit to go play Batman first of all I'm rich which means I have a superpower goodbye this is why your wife

is separated from you Brian Brian this is why she moved out I have the sonar on your wife's phone She's fucking a guy right now I can see it here I'm going to turn my eyes This cool white thing for a second

Yeah she's getting stump I'm looking right at it Brian It's awesome You know you could become a counselor To these young men There are problems of course So we learn Batman goes to the scene

Of the bank heist here And we learn that he's been working with Gordon To follow all this mafia money There's all this money that was like traced. Batman has put in traceable money or whatever. And I do love him again. Yeah, Batman, you know you work in this Joker case.

The great Gary Oldman is, what do you call it there? Is Gordon here? A great, great, great Gordon. It's awesome. He's such a great Gordon. Still a lieutenant at this point. We get the big promo in this movie. But he's just so great.

Did you bring me a dog to throw? I like, it gets me going. that should be the new bat signals throwing a dog off the roof oh he needs us it's his favorite thing um but it's interesting in this moment because batman argues with gordon here he's like you know this joker's just like one guy come on gordon we're taking on the mafia here and boy does he not see this train coming it's great because i mean obviously the last scene of the first movie is that thing this is sometime later like we've dealt with it's kind of cool it it lets you know that they've dealt with a joker but it's it's it's a low flyer on batman's

radar totally yeah yeah i like that right it's like he they may have had like a there was another episode of batman the animated series that aired before this movie or something like that i really like it uh i also really like because of the fire in uh wayne mansion of course in this movie he uh bruce is living in this gorgeous penthouse where alfred comes to be annoyed that bruce has not slept there once again right he's bringing all the cheerios or whatever, and there's no one there. Come on, Master Wayne, your favorite cartoon B wants you to have a great start to your day.

And as, I mean, as Bruce Wayne should, he is trying to kill himself every day. He gets on a helicopter every single fucking. You just, you're just like death, come from me. But so, Alfred, I like his line. You can swap not sleeping in a penthouse to not sleeping in a mansion once Wayne

Manor's back up and running in the next movie. So he's had, he has not had time to refinish Wayne Manor, which I believe in the third movie that you go back to Wayne Manor. He's back in it. but he has had time to create this pseudo-bat cave out of a storage container

in the docks or whatever this thing would take how did how did this happen you have to presume that this is a backup thing because there's no way because I think it's like it's supposed to be like a year or so the twixt movies and like

there's no way you can fucking get the drilling done in a year it was like how they filmed the Lord of the Ring like they were building it while they built the actual I never told you, but your father had a goon cave hidden in the city. Well, I suppose we could use your father's goon cave. You'd have to clean it out a bit. A white ceiling on purpose, you see. You could show 70mm pornography in there.

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And of course, by old toys from China, I meant also sex work. No, ludicrous, I don't need them. I don't need these. Get out of here, ludicrous. Send them back. Tell them younger. Younger is what I won't. Yeah, I forgot about that

ludicrous moment and crash. I was thinking of season two of the wire. I see. A bunch of dead girls show up at the beginning of that scene. Oh, I mean, that's just, that's 90s television. There was dead people in shipping containers. I mean, It happened to Dexter. It absolutely happened to Dexter.

It happened in law and order, I think, several times. One day, it'll happen to you. Not me. Just watch yourself in the supermarket, dude. There might be a zip tie on your car. Oh, right. I forgot about the supermarket bandits that are after me and my family. Oh, the supermarket bandits.

It's Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern. Kidnapping your kids. Yeah, they leave luncheibles out. That's a calling card. But yes, now you're a lemit's master wine. You know, he's got this. He's all jacking. up from the night before. He realizes he needs

to change his suit. It's cool that it's not just done. Like there's kind of like you get the you get the old suit in the first scene and like he's like that doesn't work for me anymore. Yeah this fucking sucks ass man. I got wicked whiplash thanks to this thing. He needs to be faster and that's going to decrease some of the coverage. Yes, for guns and he can get he can get stuck, he can get shot now. It's all

fair play. And bail does kind of almost recede to the background of this movie. Not fully but like it's just he's so good in this movie I love him as Bruce Wayne like his scenes with Alfred are always like the crux in which this movie moves on like there's yeah they have great chemistry like the banter but also like the heart there you know I think it works for this specifically because it's a movie in which he is trying to leave he wants he wants to be done with the job and like I mean it's also I think good reflective of Nolan's view of this he's like I didn't want to do this like I I

I had no idea. Like, yeah, of course, they, two dump trucks of money. It wasn't even just one. No. They fucking brought two of them up to me. And now they're going to give a third one for Rises. And, like, it's very compelling, I think, that, like, he comes back. At the end, he really does have to come back with the, with the two-face stuff.

Like, it really does draw him all the way back. Yeah. Um, we go to the courtroom here. We are introduced to Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent. He's late for court and, uh, Maggie Jones. Gillen Halls, Rachel Dawes, thinks that she's going to have to start this prosecution here of Salvatore Moroni, played by like we mentioned, the great Eric Roberts. And this is like, he comes in and he's like, oh, were you scared you'd have to do the job, little girl? I'm like, fuck you, man.

And then it's like, ooh, you want to flip for it? He's going to do the job, little girl. It's all a sex game, though. Look, yeah, I mean, secretary just came out not far. It's only a couple years. Aaron Eckhart saw that movie. I did. I went to the fucking theater to see that.

I own that movie. Yeah, you do. I absolutely do. But yeah, so Moroni's on trial here. And I love this. It's your classic. You think you're going to take down a mobster. And then the dude that's on the stand starts making fun of you and saying that he's the guy

that did it. He's the king pan. And Moroni's a nobody. Oh, and I'm going to try to shoot you right here on the stand. It's a good fake out too because that is the story. like in uh even what he called there in forever he's in trial and somebody throws acid out in space but the guy reaches for something you know theoretically you're watching this we're like oh they're doing they're doing it right now which uh this bearded podcaster will tell you that should have totally happened sooner in this movie oh yeah i'm i'm sorry mr dead you know he bought a malcovitch gun from etzy it's just the our scanners just don't have the the ability to pick it up it's they can buy it for 75 bucks but the real

story's right it's all the corruption like every there's so much corruption in this city someone probably just gave it to him well he's walking out security guard let him through and gave it to Ramirez Oh that's dirty Ramirez crooked Ramirez she's from the comics right She's from Gotham Central at least

Yeah yes yeah and Warrits I don't know I forget No because yeah in Gotham Central she's like with a younger She's partnered with the younger Are you thinking about Montoya Because that's all day yeah Yeah I think of Ramirez Montora mix up there Yeah I think because Ramirez is like

When you watch this movie, is that my name Montoya? And it's not. It's just, whomever this Ramirez is, who may or may not be in the comics, I'm not sure. I'm not saying definitively, but it's not Montoya, which I think is what we're talking. Yeah, you're right. She's a good. I apologize. Character, yeah.

But, you know, so Harvey, I do like this move. Like, they go to, like, arrest this is going to take him away. I mean, he's not arrested. They're going to, he's a witness. So they're going to arrest this guy. And Harvey's like, oh, your honor, what? I'm not done here. We still got to.

The fact that he punches him in the face, too. breaking it pretty funny i'm not finished i stuff questions for the guy i just punched in the courtroom is being cleared after you this dude drew a gun on you and you punched him in the face sir could you get some curtains in here for me to bow in front of i just need to and now erin atcard man i remember at the time i was like this guy's going to be everywhere for the rest of my life you see that thank you for smoking we're going to see him for the rest of our lives what happened i don't know i hear los angeles and i frankenstein i hear he's a night Oh, is that right?

He's a real A real two-face? Maybe. I mean, I don't know what to bounce it off. Is this what? Is this a People magazine? Or do you know some insiders? No, I'm like, I've, some insiders.

Yeah, I mean, like, it's just, it's coming out like a podcast. Allegedly, we don't want to get in trouble, sir. I don't think anybody's going to get in trouble. Again, it's a rumor, but I've heard it for more than one person. But it was a real, like, from this and then like, you blink, and then he's in, I Frankenstein, look, all this isn't good. No, you know what I mean? This dude was just two-faced, not two years ago.

Then he was in the Blacklist Award, like the coveted screenplay that was Battle Los Angeles. Was that a Blacklist movie? Which disqualifies that fucking website altogether. I mean, anytime, it's been now, I think, like two or three decades now where if you hear the Blacklist is involved, stay away from it. It should be a punchline. It's like radioactive, just don't go near it. Because that movie's a disaster. Yeah.

Well, I mean, the Blacklist is like, oh, yeah. It was the best not-made movie of last year. It's like, oh, it's the best not-eaten steak from yesterday. Come and get it. It's like, no, it's very good. It's not even that good. I would have eaten the steak from last. Yeah.

There's a reason why I wasn't made. It's like, oh, this steak is all grisling fat. But, you know, I really wanted to eat it. Okay, assistant. That's fine. That's really fine. But, yeah, I mean, I think the last time I really liked him was Sully. And I know I'm, I think I'm the one who,

likes that the most in this room. What is he like the co-pilot? He's the copilot. I still have not seen it ever since that horrible day of the miracle on the Hudson. I hated that miracle on the Hudson. Why did you hate it? Because I was at the time of it, I was working on the 49th floor in Times Square of Manhattan with a perfect view of the fucking river. And I called out sick that day and all my coworkers, we saw the plane land. I was like, fuck. So this is all jealousy. This is just pure joke. Every in my life has just were you legitimately sick or was it a funny dude it's a funny day

I haven't been sick a day in my life even more so funny days so Gordon has this big meeting where he's meeting with Harvey Dent you know Dent's been putting all these mobsters behind bars by following the money here and

he doesn't like that Gordon's got the special unit of cops because he's investigated a lot of them he also doesn't like the fact that he runs all these things with Batman and, you know, he as the DA doesn't know anything about it and he wants a meeting set up. Come on. Gordon, what's my Batman name?

Come on. What's my Batman name? Allusion to it here because he's like, Gordon's talking about like you're the Gotham's White Knight. It was a different name for me down at the MCU. So we're alluding to the Two-Face name that will come up later, but also them saying MCU a lot. It's weird hearing that hit your ear, isn't it?

You're just going to keep going major crimes unit. Major Grimes unit. You could use an I.A. at the time. That's the internal right. So we learned that Wayne Enterprises is getting into bed with Mr. Lau and his company here for some big business they're going to do. I love this fucking them cutting to Bruce Wayne sleeping in this board meeting. It's so fucking funny.

It's not the same thing. I don't want to say that these movies are even close to each other. but it is a similar editing joke to, in King Ralph, Your Majesty, it's the same kind of... Mr. Wayne's very excited for this project, right? Mr. Wayne? It's almost the same thing. And that little weenies disgusted that he dares sleep

at his own board meeting. Oh, Mr. Reese. Oh, he's embarrassing to the corporation. I'll tell you what. Right there, you fucking say that Bruce Wayne is embarrassing to Wayne Enterprises, that dude's fired. That dude should be fired. And also, like, here's the thing. when you're at an incompetently run company, hunker down and enjoy the ride,

my friend, absolutely. Like just, oh, management has no idea what's going on. Sick. I'm coming at 925 tomorrow. This guy's an efficiency, bro, though. Yeah, that's the problem. He doesn't enjoy those things. He doesn't know that.

You really got to learn how to strap yourself in and feel the geez, man. I did it for a really long time. You just sit there and you're like, wow, so many of these people that make decisions are really dumb. You can do that, or you can be a weasel. This guy is pure weasel. No, he fucking totally stinks this Mr. Reese. I wish the fucking mob killed him.

The public mob, not the mafia. Either or. Rip him apart. Shona the dead him. Like the friend with glasses. Yeah, yeah. But Lucius Fox, of course, he knows how to smell a fox in the henhouse. He's like, Mr. Wayne, I think this guy might be crooked.

I'm not convinced he's not crooked. Yes. And then it's just like, oh, yeah, he's like, canceled the deal. I just wanted to check on his book, so a closer look. Yeah, like he's, he already, Bruce Wayne already suspected that he wanted to look at more at the fact. You already knew, Mr. Wayne.

He accuses him of already having the information. That's just all right, Mr. Wayne. We go to Harvey and Rachel on this fancy date. And he's like, oh, it took me months. I had to make this reservation months in advance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And in walks Bruce Wayne with Natasha,

the prima balance. from the Moscow ballet. I was fingering her in the car. What's up? What's how? I would like I would like a little more, and maybe I said this in the begins episode, just one confirmation that he's actually fucking these ladies. Like, you know what I mean? Like him

entering them? But that's like the blood thing. He doesn't do that. Oh, that's fluid transfer. Yeah. Because it just, it reads like that scene in, what do you call it there, that scene in Animal House when she's jerking the guy off and nothing's happening. That's the joke is. They're

this conversation. It's like, anything is like, not just yet. She's just like looking at the window. That's what I feel like. He's like, yeah, I need to be a symbol for anything going on. Not yet. Oh, yes, I always love when Mr. Wayne call me for a job because we just sit in penthouse and watch MTV all night. Exactly. Maybe just

to wake up, like, or Alfred shows up and she's leaving and he's like, oh, well, you know, modern email. Alfred, clean the come off of him. Wipe it up, Alfred. Yeah. Better get a mop. Oh, come on. He's, this is an orphaned, rich kid.

You don't think this guy's got boner pills that work for five fucking years? He might be like, I can't. My essence. I am the night. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, that's the thing he's a vigilante, which is leans right wing. And those guys are like the no fat program.

Exactly. But I think he's at least intelligent enough because remember, Batman, world's greatest detective. That's right. He knows that that stuff, that like thinking is stupid. And he knows that. you got a bunch, if you got a month's worth of fucking load built up, sure. You can't be successfully Batmaning. Maybe what he does

is he waits for that load build up and he dispels it once a month and a giant torrent. Also, you got to remember here, prima ballerina of the Russian ballet, that is about as trad as like, I mean, trad, they would love that. Yeah. They would want

a ballerina wife. That's exactly what they want. Foreigner. But then again, she's making her own money. I don't like that. That's probably, yeah. probably right that's what they're supposed to be doing a ballerina dude you're on the road a lot I don't think they'd like that at all it's funny nowadays she'd be sanctioned

there's my sanctioned girlfriend we got on again off again thing with the Russians these days I guess but I do love Bruce coming in and he's like oh we can put the tables together and Harvey desperately doesn't want that to happen and he's like I don't think it will do that and then dude anytime you get

fucking big dick like this you just got to start waving the white flag dude he's just like oh well I own this place so I think and he doesn't have to like complete his sentence he just starts waving his fucking fingers and they have a table together. Yeah. I love it. A lot of this is like rich guy fantasy. Yeah. I always

wanted to say I own something. So seeing it in a movie is very very fun for me. Well for that thing for like everyone to know you and for you to be able to like control a world as if you are a god. Because like I'm at like it's not just so that he owns the place.

It's that he can just snap do this motion and they know all of it. They know exactly what he wants. It's like a video game. Again, it's a video game thing. I literally just have to wave my arm and they know what I mean. It's awesome. It's so cool. You know who's cool, Caesar? Yeah, let's just talk about Caesar's

power grab for a little bit of the dinner table. How about we do that? It's amazing that nothing bad happened to him ever. I mean, like, yeah, I think what's her name Maggie Gillenhall or Rachel's like, yeah, and then he never gave up that power. Like, ah, whatever. The early part's the best part. They started talking about Batman and it gets to that of like oh protector type of this insane thing where he's like he's all for this and

i was like getting some real modern day vibes he's like look whenever things got bad yes they just threw democracy in the fucking garbage and one dude just ruled till they fixed it and then everything definitely went back to normal and yeah rachel has to be like what are you a fucking idiot do you know who the last one was that did that shit you guys are always so negative always focusing on the fall of rome you can't think of good stuff that flourishing of rome that was so cool he's a right wing guy he's often thinking about the roman empire that's true why can't you think about just because it was the end

and that it never came back well yeah you know like scarface is a fucking jerk if you finish the movie but if you just turn it off in the middle of the second act it's fine before don draper starts his life falls apart for the crippling alcoholism he's banging them two by two and that looks fun I totally forgot it was about Caesar though the line happens here from at card right

It's, you either die a hero live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Oh, yeah. I totally forgot that was about Caesar until this rewatch. It's been a while. And not Romero either. I do love this part of my theory. This ballerine is trying to fuck Harvey Denton. He's like, oh, what if Harvey Dent, Batman?

She's like leading up to his face. First of all, no one should be believing that. We've seen Batman's chin. Exactly. It doesn't have a big dot in the middle of it. You know, nothing is going on, just FYI, nothing going on. We watch MTV all night. He is only paid up through dessert.

And then I'm free. So, you know, you want to switch. I've already watched Seinfeld DVD with him. He has large poster with clipped photographs of your girlfriend all over it. It says my girlfriend on it. I try to jerk him off. He talk about essence for an hour he gets mad about it. he need to hold on to essence

and by essence I mean the magazine essence many copies of essence and some jet magazine as well he says it makes him glow glow in the dark and I it does not what was a character's name

General Ripper in Strange Love that denied the essence Yes our precious bodily fluid So this is a great This is again just an amazing fucking just dicking this dude down he's like oh Harvey I'd like

to throw you a fundraiser he's like oh Bruce I you know my election isn't for a while it's totally fine he's like no no you don't understand one fundraise with my pals and you'll never have to fundraise again and I'm like penny dropper oh look at that

a politician never having to do a fundraiser again oh my lord what will they do with themselves yeah never need another cent is what he says which is just crazy we cut to this mafia meeting the big famous mafia meeting where Mr. Lau is fucking telecommuting here. I love that. Him just on this old fucking

boxy TV is pretty great. Just the jokers. Despite the television's plan. Yeah. It's just so good. As if the television is the sentient thing in such a great line. I got the television from my ma's house. She loves the old boxes. I'm not

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folks. Why don't you go say hi to Wanda? yes michael jai white is uh this this mafia dude here gamble gamble which it's g a m b o l sure that sucks little gamble we got a nickel for his grandma again like and i love the uh the voice it's got this midwestern twang to it which many non-american actors never touch that kind of a thing

it's always the uhs uh i mean frankly he's not doing it in this movie But I was, our most recent on screen live, I was worrying about Christian Bail and the accent and the bride. Because he loves fucking doing, getting really stinky like that. That's how they all start. Because either go, Dr. House, an extra flat or, oh, hey. This has got like a real, it's like a Chicago kind of accent. It's a real fucking weird cow milk and cheese eating sausage consuming voice.

You ever hear about the curse of the belly goat? Because he goes, what, your bowels drop off? Is your balls drop off? You want to hear about how the Cubs won the penny? Wish I could go back, put some money on the Cubbies. But it's a good point. I'm glad they cast an American for this role. Oh, no, he's Australian.

Oh, fuck. You want to know how I got this heart disease? Well, he was a good actor. He deserved to get the Oscar. Precisely. He was great. I do love him just walking into the kitchen laughing. He's like, ooh, ha, he, ah, ho.

He's just like making noises. It's so, all of the, I was picking up a lot of this time, because I think I was listening to it really loudly this afternoon. Like, all of his, like, talking to himself in this movie is so just in this mumble that, like, just like a fucking lot of Nolan movies, if you don't have it cranked, you're missing something. And then a huge, moir comes in and breaks the windows in your house and it's annoying. But he's, I don't know about what you can do about that. Like, he's just talking to himself through the whole movie.

It's awesome. It's the thing that breaks the mechanism. everything else is on a very particular time. It's moving up and he's just breaking it like very brazenly. And you're drawn to him the minute he fucking walked. I mean, like, even more so than the opening scene because that feels like more of like you're introducing us to the world. There's so much going on in that sequence.

This is all just commanding these guys. Oh, yeah. From the minute. And like he owns the audience from this moment on. Yes, I mean, unbelievable. After this magic trick, of course. I mean, you have to mention the magic. Make this pencil disappear, dude.

Yes. People are going to freak out of, we don't mention the magic. I mean, when you saw for this time, your jaw's on the floor, like, he just fucking impaled that dude. He just absolutely killed that guy. And it's, and this is,

I guess, the Nolan thing with the lack of blood, but it's, it's effective. Like, you see his head slam down and that pencil is gone. In that moment, like, the blood doesn't even have time to fall on the table. It's so quick. I agree with you, Eric, though.

Like, the gamble cut in a couple minutes later, That's the one where I'm like, I would like to see that one again. It feels like we're trying to not get a bad rating. Exactly. Well, because also it's weird because he's got it in his mouth. Which wouldn't kill him necessarily. Well, that's exactly right. Like he goes and it's like, oh, he's going to cut the cheek.

And then speaking of some of the maybe slightly choppy editing here, it cuts to behind Michael Jai White and he just falls over. And it looks like the reaction is if the Joker cut his throat, which is not what you see him going to do. No. And it is just like. the guy's face and the music goes really high. And that's supposed to be the intensity of it. And I was just like, no,

it's not the same. I need like, especially like, this is, you want me to believe at least that this is a somewhat notable character of power that is being killed off here. Like, I kind of need to see him dead. Well, I mean, and that's the thing is like his reaction, like, slumping down instantly

like that is as if his throat was cut. If the cheek thing happened, he should be screaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll be alive and screaming. which is why you don't do it but you should have set that up better when you have the camera in front of him that he doesn't have it in his mouth

because that's not the killstroke what do you mean there was an O in his name well that's stupid it gamble what do you mean Lao has already told these people before the Joker comes in that he's already on his way back to Hong Kong

had to go back he took all their money he's got the money 68 million I love that quick cut to like Gordon like going to the Bob Bank and it's just the stack builds that were marked The track of the ones just in that little convenient pile. It's so cool.

He kicks it. It looks like so much fun to get a pile of money. Totally. This pile of money that you're angry at. Stevenson, pick that up. It's simple. We kill the Batman. That's just his plan right there.

After Gamble is killed here, he's like, think it over. Here's my car. This kind of goes away, which is fucking, it's so good. I got to tell you, I think Harvey Dent should be ticketed for illegally turning on the bad signal right here. His whole like, he's just going to get up there to do it because he wants to meet Batman so desperately, you fanboy loser. Last time that happened was Nicole Kidman, she wanted to

get bald by Batman. Oh, right, yeah. Wouldn't that be something? Dr. Chase Meridius. Another saucy blonde. So is Harvey Dent. Maybe they should have done something there. A little bit more welcome though. No, I think, I mean, Chase Meridian, of course, like, he seemed really he was like, do I

want to fuck with the suit on? I'll find some way to do it. Like, this is just, this is, oh man. Lucius, I'm going to need a fly built into these pants. It's a flap of some sort. I know they called you Two-Face because you're top and of bottoms. We're switch hitters, let's do it. You can just call that verse.

It's fine. So they have this whole discussion about Lau leaving. Good job. He's fucking dense pissed off about the whole thing. And we just hear Batman. I think Mr. Lau deserves more personal attention. And we just get right to this fucking Hong Kong scene. The Hong Kong thing, this is Batman.

like literally, I mean, like, he could start a war with China right now. Oh, he would. Oh, he would be. Absolutely. South Korean tech found in China. Right, because it's like, is the plane South Korean? The hook, the hook is, there was like the hook, the sky hook was like part of a 1960 CIA part. We get a lot of like random words here to explain how this all happened.

It's, uh, South Korean smugglers that are running the whole. Yeah. Right. And the idea is he takes the Russian ballet and his Bruce Wayne persona. If we go on the yacht, will we fuck? Yeah, I got to go to the bathroom. Alfred. Loop up, my friend.

We can't skip over, but yes, when we're talking about this, Bruce says to Lucius, I need something where I can get back into a plane without the plane landing to which the response is, now that's more like it, Mr. Wade, because he thinks all of the things that he's asking about are very pedestrian, and like, yes, of course, we can do this.

Jumping out, sure, that's fine. We can do this, that, and the other thing. But it's not really much of a challenge. And then he has that, that's more like it, Mr. Wade. What's something that could destroy the world order? Start the third world war. You didn't say land, Mr. Wayne. So we're crashing.

We're going to give Hong Kong a 9-11. It's great, though, because Alfred is like, have you thought, I don't remember if it's Alfred or Lucius. One of them asked him, have you thought of an alibi? and it cuts to the theater where he knows that Harvey has been bragging about taking Rachel to the ballet

and they fucking go up to the door and the headline is billionaire abscons with entire Moscow ballet. Love boat. Love boat. There was also in that date initially

there was also that emasculating line that doesn't really age well that's sort of a gay joke like oh you're into ballet. Oh yeah. Oh sure. That was part of the Bruce

Wayne Prisota. That was a caricature. A caricature of an asshole, yeah. I guess, yeah, Bruce would just read a bunch of Maxum magazines in the morning. For the Bruce Prisota, I have to read Maxa magazine. Oh, yeah, this Olivia Mon is pretty sharp. You know, I'm about three quarters of the way through.

I hope these are beer in hell. It's a hell of a piece of writing. Alfred, get me Tucker Max on the phone. You know, you're going a little too far, Master Wade. I can't have Tucker Max coming in the White Man. To be totally frank with you, sir, I'm finding you really, really annoying these days. Tucker Max is going to design a new red solo cup for us to play beer pong with. And I don't appreciate you calling women birds.

That's our thing, God damn it. Yes, it sounded stupid when we were doing it too, all right? I'm from Wales, I could say it. So, the joke, oh yeah, Joker going to Gamble's hideout. This is the one, the first of... of three, well, two and a half you want to know how I got these scars. This is the entrance of like

a dead or alive, right? They bring them in as a dead. Oh, yes. That's right. These dudes come in and they're like, we killed the Joker and they put them up on the table. Yeah. It's a great little head fake from a screenplay perspective of oh, that's the Joker telling him his origin. Oh, so that's it. That's it. And then he does it again.

You're like, oh, so we're not going to get it. That's so much better. It's so much better, right? It's like the killing joke. with the multiple choice origin. Exactly. Yeah, you have that sort of idea that, like, it's so much better not knowing where he comes from. Right.

Remind me of the killing joke, my friends? Well, he's, I think he tells a story to Bruce about, or Batman, about his, who he was. Yes. Was it the comic? He's a stand-up. Then there was another, I think later on, he contradicts it as well. Oh, oh, got it. It's been a while since I've read it, but something like that.

Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's been a really long time since I've read it. and it's been a little bit of a long time since I saw that not great adaptation Oh it's a bad one That animated animation I was mad for a month and a half Throw it in the garbage

You guys gave it bad marks So I did not go see it If I'm remembering it's like motion It's more motion comic than movie No it's it's a full animated thing It's a full animated movie And Batman I do not like Backgirl fucks Batman in that one

That's right Is that not You prefer Robin or I mean first off yes I'd prefer no one's heavy sex in this world. Was Mark Hamill doing it? Yes, he was. And Kevin Conroy. Which is weird because it's like

a darker story because it's Alan Moore. And I was so uncomfortable hearing the voices do that movie. You know what I mean? I was like, you've got to get scumbags for this. The animation wasn't great. It's just a bad relic of like we should just try to do something. And they definitely did stuff that wasn't exactly from the comment. No, yeah. They changed it. What with the fucking?

Yeah. So this is great. I love the way that the Joker ends this scene is he's like there's two henchmen left and he's like all right we're going to have tryouts because there's only room in the gang for one and he breaks a pool queue in half and it's just like whichever one of you

is alive at the end of this you're in the gang and I love that you don't see this you see the two dudes on the floor they sort of their heads come up and look at each other at the same time and real like what are we supposed to do here and it's like a split second and it's going to get quick Do we get those cool purple leather jackets with your symbol on the phone? No, that's the other guy.

No, no, that's the party man group. You're not in party man group. Those fucking losers? Are you fucking serious? Those showboats? So we have this awesome Hong Kong sequence that starts with Lucius going there to be like, by the way, Mr. Wayne says, go fuck yourself. Also to plant an electronic device in the office building where Mr. Louse Corporation is,

held but it is like yes I traveled all the way around the world because Mr. Wayne said fuck you you'll be paying for dinner that's more like it Mr. Wayne Mr. Wayne I know that they'll be putting my phone in a yonder bag like a Pete Davidson stand-up special so it'll be

secure in the building but yeah Fox is basically like we can't continue doing business with you due to whatever else it is you all wrapped up in which is so fucking great and then when he's walking out And the guys, like, you want your cell phone back?

He's like, I already have it. Yeah, stupid, stupid. And the great thing is the guys like, oh, I guess I'll just put this back in the draw. Yeah. You gotta fucking, you gotta get the whatever Hong Kong's equivalent of the FBI is in this. That would be amazing. It's close to lunchtime. That would be amazing if he just takes out and throws away and lose.

Fuck. What's the hell of it? Fuck, son of a bitch. That was the whole plan. Yeah, they got the imaging of like the fucking Hong Kong landfill. Where is he, Alfred? I don't, what was part of the garbage heap? That was your whole plan.

I do think this thing is cool though The device like Morgan Freeman just like walk around the office or whatever And it's image capturing using sonar like What the room looks like Which of course is a tiny version of what Bruce will turn into the surveillance machine At the end of the movie I do love this little like the tiny test version

And I like Lowe being like offended And it's just like a phone call would have survived Yeah, it's like just could have been an email Didn't want to Bruce didn't want to seem like he was deliberate waste in your time. Oh, just accidentally then get fucked assholes. It's so awesome. Rice. Yeah. Dude, if you're

Mr. Lau and you're like, this fucking old ass fucking dude comes all the way to my office just to tell me to get fucked. That's what I do. It flew all the way from Hong Kong just to say, I don't think so, Mr. Lau. I like these goopy bombs that Batman uses. A lot of fun with venom pellets.

They're fun. It's awesome. It's kind of like Nerf almost. Like if Nerf went with Gack. Yes, exactly. If Nickelodeon partnered with like, you know, Lockheed Martin. That's right. I don't kill anybody. Wait, how many people died in the building explosion in Hong Kong?

Security guards. Debris hit a bunch of people on the street. Well, the goop bombs kind of did that more than me. Act of God, act of God, act of God. I just didn't have to save them. That's right. They fell to their death. I could have. I probably could have gotten them,

but I didn't. Fox's cell phone that he has left with the building here. is actually this little Trojan horse thing that starts making all the electricity in the building go crazy and in that moment Batman uses the opportunity to swing over here. This whole, the jump, all of it like I said earlier, like you just need

to put a dude on the top of a building for a little bit. Obviously the jump isn't real but like that's that's all I need. Set me up with a real thing and my brain can do the rest. I'm never going to say this ever again. Get in a helicopter and shoot that man

on the top of the thing. And I would have loved it He's doing it He's getting ready He's got the wings out And then honestly He gets a call He's like

The fuck Hello Master went I do not want to fuck these women Could you please Why didn't you ask someone younger To come with us That's what the Dildo is for

Use a Dilda He's furious though When Bruce gets picked up By the South Koreans Yeah He's like Gonna tell somebody else To put the bloody sunscreen

I was like What just go with it dude what are you what are you talking and also these south korean pirates not a plot hole hong kong you drive a truck hole through it but now bruce is like all right south korean pirates uh hi i'm bruce wayne uh south korean pirates we actually swing up my and pick up my friend batman who's over here let me just go behind these these boxes and pick them up it's uh kind of a fetish thing i'll be in a black cowl and i will be being skyhooked uh out it's kind I will be jerking off. You won't see it.

But I'm not Batman. The real Batman's back in Gotham City, you understand? I'm Bruce Wayne. I'm not Batman. I bought this off Instagram this get up here. Everyone gets $10 million. I don't want to kill each one of you. That's all I can do. Oh, I'll also be romantically cradling a Chinese millionaire when you pick me up.

It's a sex thing. Don't worry. You're right, but like the alternative, like if Alfred was flying this, yeah. No, no, thank you. No, you're totally right. Buckle up. Exactly. We've got company. Hold on You know, I used to fly in the Royal Air Force

Yeah, no, exactly I was at the R-A-F Well, at least I'm not having sex with a woman Thank God for that I left all those supermodel ballerinas To die at sea I do love Batman Just dragging Mr. Lau

By the shirt collar, oh man It just drops him in the front of the fucking The Gotham PD Just like bomp Dude just left to the street with a note for lieutenant corded. I also love the Hong Kong police being like, what the fuck is happening. They got no idea what to

make in the situation at all. Well, I guess we're no longer a sovereign country. All right. That's it. Batman decided. I do love, I was had this thought as like, man, if you made like a Hong Kong cop movie, like a better tomorrow kind of movie with the team that had to address the Batman

Mr. Lao kidnapping, I'd watch that little short film. That'd be kind of fantastic. You think it's just a regular crime thing and then Batman's at the last And then you see him, like, getting back to the precinct later, they're like, you're never going to believe what happened. We just thought it was a random, like, break-in at Lau's Tower. It was fucking Batman.

Yeah, that guy from America, from Gotham, it was Batman. And get this shit. A fucking Korean plane flew over the building and ripped the both of them right out the window. Pretty cool. Credits. Oh, man. So Rachel, back in Gotham, is interrogating Lao here trying to get him to break. And this is a fucking stupid

Because it's, I understand It's for the audience People don't understand this shit You didn't live in an area Where this was in the news Sometimes with frequency But the whole idea of a RICO charge here It's like

She has to come out and be like Boy, we're not fucking getting anywhere With this guy And then like Harvey has to be like Well if we charged them all together That could be a RICO cry And then she's like Oh my God, you're right

She like slaps her forehead I was like, you too are a criminal lawyer here. You know what conspiracies are. I mean, 527 counts of obstruction of justice. What is you, the president of the United States? Hello. I'm laughing in hell. But yeah, so she's like, I want to know what's going to happen to all that mob money or whatever.

And the other thing that's good, I love that Gordon is like, we're just going to have to keep him here or something. Because if he goes to county, he's getting moided. Yes. Which is great. Gordon goes and I love him walking in here when they go to arrest all these dudes because of what Lows is going to give up. And Moroni's like talking shit or whatever. And they just arrest Eric Roberts and all the dudes. And then this gag kind of feels like a gag you'd see in like a John Landis movie, funny enough.

Speaking of like the Chicago over this all. But just the gag of like, and how do you plead? And it cuts to a courtroom. Yes. People go, not guilty, like all at once. Yeah, it's pretty funny. There's 100% of Blues Brothers moment in this movie that I did not realize until today. And if I see it on my notes, I'll let you know when it pops up.

Thank you. But so the mayor, of course, is pissed off. Mayor Nester Carbonell here was 2008. So Nester was still in big things like this, thanks to the show Lost. In where he played a cool thing. What happened to him? I'm lost? No, no.

See, I refused to follow him Because I think it was just a lot of like TV shows Oh, okay I thought maybe he passed No, no, no, it was just When Lost was on like everybody Cast him Everybody on that show got to do other things

Because they were known from Lost Maybe they were allegations Not that I know of, no, I just think he Kind of is doing smaller stuff in TV or whatever But here's the mayor of Gotham here And he's pissed off Because he thinks that You know, these dudes are just all

Like he's like, they can't process all this stuff like you're going to get 500 people away but then there's going to be 500 appeals this that and the other thing and Aaron Eckhart Harvey Dent's whole argument here right is think of the things you can do with 18 months of clean streets

like they're not going to get out tomorrow and then the fact that like yeah maybe the big fish will get off but like the smaller guys will turn right because they can't afford the bail this that and the other thing yeah I do love that the mayor like doesn't get the strategy like it's pretty clean cut

the mayor like is just pissed this whole movie He is. He's furious. He's just kind of annoyed. And you don't know what, like, obviously I think it's like he's frustrated with the Batman situation. Maybe he's crooked, you never know. Yeah, they don't really do much with the mayor character. It's tough being mayor, you know? Maybe in Gotham, there was a lot of snow and he didn't get enough salt last year. Oh, sure. Do the salt trucks weren't out early enough?

It's a big scandal. That one time happened in New York, yeah. With de Blasio, I remember, yeah. And that was a disaster. It was. It was one of those, like, we don't think the snow's going to be that bad, so we're not going to salt the streets properly. And then the city was destroyed. It was fucking really bad.

The street, yeah, like in Queens, it was just like you couldn't go anywhere. No, it's nuts. So as they're having this meeting, I love this, dude, this fucking body just drops in front of the window. It's another fake Batman hanged and he's been like a joker-fied here. He's got the makeup on and everything. We cut to the video of this guy getting, you know, torture. I mean, I know we're just talking about violence in the media here. I don't know

if this would, he's like, air it. Yeah, I don't think they would air this. Oh, no. This is, it's interesting, right? I mean, 2008, we're still seeing like, you know, like terrorist videos and things like. So I kind of felt like that's what we're talking about for sure. Yes, yeah. Like, it's totally the product of the time. Should it

happen? Probably not. Like, would it though? Yeah. I think we'd probably show a little bit of this. That's the thing. It's on Twitter. It's on Facebook. The media won't show the ice raids now, right? Really in any graphic detail. And they probably, they, I feel like they, they stopped showing like coffins of

soldiers. Like, and then in Vietnam, you would actually see the repercussions right of policy. Now the media's job is to sweep it under the rug for whoever's in power. Yeah, because they learn their lesson. You can't have that happen again. Sure. Look, in Vietnam, we lost

and everybody turned on this. We can't be letting them. You know what? Can't let them see the fucking thing again. I'm just tired of winning, Chris. I do love Bruce and Alfred Watching the TV of like when the broadcast is happening And the two of them are just like So you think that's your fault of mine Which one? Who gets this one?

Is it you and me? As far as handing out blame goes There's one of us who's actually Batman And there's only me You kind of accidentally talk to you into doing it You know what? I'll take this one I don't want to hear you bitching on morning I don't see any of them dressed as a bloody butler

why do you dress up like him is there is this the point where he's like you know back uh me and my friends were doing a light genocide down in uh no whatever that whatever this alfred's story which you know at first it's like oh it's cool Alfred's like a CIA guy but wait what warlord were you working for whatever criminal work criminal that that story comes up when we're emptying out the parking garage hide out a little later it was 2012 and I was working for coney

We had all these child soldiers, you see, Master Wend. Oh, me and my friends, and by friends, I mean child soldiers. Maybe someday this will all play out. You'll be able to see my adventures in a new show called Pennyworth, The Story of Batman's Butler. No, that's a terrible title. There's no way they'd actually call the show that. But I'm sure I'll have a show in my day.

There'll be less genocide in it, which will be quite annoying. A little light genocide, you understand. It'll be a lie, but that's how they're going to sell it. The fucking the cry on here when they're broadcasting the table or whatever is awesome because it just says Batman dead? You know this fat fucking Batman. Just look at him. He looks like the fucking boss that was on Keenan and Kel.

There's still Cheeto dust on his fingers. Leave this alone. This is where we get the, this is our, we get to Harvey's fundraiser at Bruce's Penhouse here. I do love Alfred just passing around the champagne. You know, looks like you could use a little bit of this, Harvey did. Yeah, liquid courage or whatever. Oh, right. And also, if you're worried about Master Rain and your girlfriend, Rachel, I don't think

anything ever had. I mean, look, it got close, but like, I think he's a virgin. I'm going to be, I'm going to get a little close. I think he's a virgin. There was one time, right? I heard some noises coming from his bedroom. And I thought there was an emergency. So I raced in there.

They weren't fucking. They were watching mad TV. just laughing like loonies. We're just a Will Sassau off. They just wouldn't stop. They just kept on watching Will Sassau. When Mrs. Swan came on that screen, he would not stop laughing. I thought it was the bloody joker.

He thought it was so funny when the grown man pretended he was a little boy. It was so great. Really, what I'm trying to tell you is it hands off tops. There's just, I won't believe anything else. Babe Watch with Artin Lang is one of the funniest comedy classes I've ever seen in my day. There's that X-Files episode with The Vampires

where Mulder kind of gets in and starts to have it kind of romances a vampire. I think they may be kissed during that. But that's it. Total tops. There was one really great mad TV sketch. I think, Steve, did you share this with me

or did it was the Zepruder home movies? Oh, I don't know. Oh, maybe not. Okay. Yeah, yeah. There was, it was called Zepruder home movies at every single, every single like home movie, it's like some kid's birthday party,

someone's head can shot. Like every single time he's filming anything someone could shot. That's pretty funny. Don't start this. Mad TV is just waiting to be reclaimed. No, somebody will come. Awful. Always awful. I'll be honest with you.

There's a great sort of like ominous Alfred line here that I caught when Harvey says to him like, oh, so you've known Rachel her whole life. And he goes, not yet, sir. And I was like, Clark's dick. Get ready for it. That's pretty great. here we go Chris Cabin, your favorite

scene, Bruce Wayne rolling up to his fundraiser in a helicopter. In the death wish. Was an army of women he's not having sex with him. And here's the thing, man. If you want like a lady on each arm, that's one thing. But he's got this like extra babe.

Yeah. This like total fucking fourth wheel. It's like Gaddafi bodyguards. That's the thing. He's pushing past that. He's beyond sex. He's going into the Gaddafi mode. Oh, yeah.

Oh, dude. Then after Gaddafi mode is you're getting freak off. Because I don't think Gaddafi was having sex. in those final years either. I think he was... I think the mad crowd was penetrating him in the... Well, I mean, even before that, Eric.

Before that whole thing. That was rough stuff. It was. It was very bad. It certainly was. You look at Saddam. That guy got off light compared. Not bad. Nice dark place. Nobody was looking at him. Yeah. They hung him. Like a Batman.

I saw that video on the internet. Of course. Me too. Absolutely. So, yeah, Bruce rolls up in the helicopter. And it's great because it's... we have mirroring of lines in this scene Bruce starts it off with now where is Harvey? Yeah. And when the Joker enters later, now

where is Harvey? Yeah, yeah. But Bruce gives this like good fundraiser speech. I believe in Harvey Dent, you know, look at this face, the face of Gotham's bright future, which is great another look at this face. I love that line. And then like, you know, he has a

he goes out and has a little speech, a little talk with Rachel. And this is like the saddest shit in the world. Like, When she's, in the first movie, she's like, I'll wait for you when there's a time when there is no Batman. Right. She even says like, you can't put that shit on me, dude. Like, I said that in a moment of duress your house burned down. Like, totally.

I didn't know what was going. I was coming off fucking fear. Fear toxin at the time. You just saved me from the scarecrow. Also, you accidentally murdered Razal Ghul there. So you were bummed about that kind of. You get those fear toxin hangovers, dude. Those, you'll say anything in that moment.

Man, the shits I have taken on a fear toxin hangover. It's just the worst. My entire 20s. Just fear talks and hangover. Oh, wow. You just either Gatorade into fucking bacon, egg and cheese, like nobody's business. I was looking at people like, I was like, Batman has, like, got the goop coming out of his mouth and he's screaming at me. Eric, no, those Canadian mist.

That was the same thing. It was an evil concoction from north of the border. I need a couch, a lot of air conditioning. Honestly, I don't even like it, but how I met your mother, if you put it on, I'll get through it. It sucks anyway. at a low volume and then I'll go over the fear talks Oh that's what Crane put out

He was a producer on that one He was dead I wish I was dead I wish I was dead Popa ba ba Popa Bob ba ba It's like friends

But worse Oh Jesus Man they're really Trying to shoehorn in Catch phrases To make it permeate into the pop culture Like Seinfeld did It's embarrassing

Is it My teeth are falling out It's how Now it's just Bonnie fellow Actually having sex with the women so we get this senior Ramirez is telling Gordon that they found DNA on this Joker card that was put in the files there

that the judge was looking at and it's DNA of the commissioner the mayor and the judge well gee isn't that clever oh boy wow what a thought and I love this little montage with these two these dudes eating shit it's good it's wild

the judge with the up is so good Oh my God damn, it's so awesome. So many cars flip and explode and go. There's so much car trauma. All the cards and stuff. And then the other guy, the commissioner, I guess, right, drinking the acid in his bottle of booze there. It's great. And it's a smoky aftertaste.

That's a good decanter. Because I love like Gordon desperately trying to like keep him in the office and the guy's like kind of cock at the walk. You know, Gordon, when you're a police commissioner, you get a lot of death threats. Now let me drink this green whiskey. feels like my teeth are melting oh oh there goes all the stomach lining Glenn Jokervich yeah that's a fucking scotch of some kind

oh it's a 12 year too the label's taped on with a napkin and Bruce gets I think he gets like a call because he knows what's going on and this is why he chokes out Harvey to hide him in a broom closet that's great the panic room joke is fantastic

oh yes he fucking like these two people are hooking up at the party. They're like sloppy fucking. Yeah. Well that's, I mean, come on. If you are going to hook up at a party you do it at a Bruce Wayne party. He's got the best beds. Come on now.

True. Man, this guy. And you, this he's got a penthouse. Those shits are everywhere. This shit's bigger than fucking Lydia Tars play. You ever fuck on something that's 8,000 count thread sheets? Oh, man. You got to do it. Don't fuck in my house. And also don't give her your essence, dude. You'll be better You'll be more successful in business

If you don't give her your essence Here's the difference between you and me I'm not fucking on 100 count thread cheese I have an essence My essence is pure and I'm a warrior You are no longer warrior because you come It's great though It's like oh you've got a panic room

Thank God he just goes into this little The door closing They're so indignant about it too It's awesome Are you serious But yeah so the in comes the joker We are tonight's entertainment Now where is Harvey Dan

Here comes Senator Batman here Dude, this guy, I love it. I looked it up, by the way, this dude is still alive. Good for him. I think he's still the Congress, honestly. Layi? Yeah. Well, if he's really old, he must still be in Congress. Is he over 80, but then? He's definitely over 80 now. He looks like he was fucking over 80 in this movie for crying out loud. He probably wasn't. I'd just think statistically. This guy's just a fan of Batman.

Yeah. He was just a Batman fan. I don't know how he wound up in all, like a lot of the movies, right? I think he's in all starting with Burton, isn't he? He was a senator from, he's no longer a senator. He was, he was in, wait, he retired? In 2020, 23, if you could believe it. What? 2020. I wonder if that's defeated or is.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I need to hear it. Yeah. But for where? Oh, uh, was it Vermont or something? New Hampshire. What? I'm sorry.

He's taken forever. I just wanted to know how many Batman movies he was in. Oh, Vermont. He was in Vermont. Oh, wow. Like good memory. Yeah. Yeah.

We get the The Joker does his second You want to know how I got these scars thing To Rachel right here You know I made out with your brother in a movie Oh and I fake Fucked him in the ass too Oh Jill and Halls

With the same day What he says to Senator Batman too is great Is he goes You remind me of my father I hated my father Yeah he does that That's so fucking awesome

This dude's just like, oh, I'm acting in a movie. There is a great moment where the Joker takes like a woman's champagne flute and then flips it up and like all the champagne falls out and then he takes a drink of nothing. Yes, dude, it's so cool. Like just, dude, that's like, it's the, it sucks that he's gone. But man, if there was ever a deserving posthumous Oscar, it was this fucking performance. Hot dog. Oh, man, yeah. I'm fucking the entire cast of Donnie Darko right now.

I got the brother and the sister. I'm flying Jenna Malone out And you, you're going to have to wear a rabbit suit For what we're getting up to later What are you doing in the middle of the road, huh? Yeah, I'll take on grandma death Always wanted to be a granny shagger But so, yeah, the Joker's thing here with the scars to Maggie

He's talking about this non-existent wife who got into gambling And owed some bad people some money and they cut her up real good. Whatever, it's so fucking great. And I try to ask Mr. Burns to close down his casino. He booked Robert Goulet somehow, but he went missing to Bart's Casino. That's why I killed Gambler. I mean, Gamble.

You see, I thought Gamble was gambler, and I hate that guy. It turned out Robert Goulet was at my house. This is where he's like also like with the this. phony story right it's uh uh you know i then i put the razor blade in my mouth she i didn't care about the scars yeah right but then she couldn't stand the side of me yes yeah yeah it's so good uh and then this is the here is at least twice in this movie where i noted how did someone not hear batman because she maggie starts giving them shit right here and he goes a little fight you i like that and then from six inches away batman goes then you'll love me and i was like did

I mean, he went to ninja school, dude. You can't fucking try. Also, the sign on the ceiling said quiet at the time. I got to tell you, not nearly enough ninja lore in this movie. I mean, you got ninjas out the ass in that last movie. There's Nari a ninja mention here. I need something, man. A real nongia situation.

Speaking of John Goodman references. But yeah, just, I don't know, in that case, if he is such a great ninja, why not a little gas bomb? That'd be fun. here's Batman, but it's just like he's right that you're going to love me. Oh, I didn't see you there, Batman. I should have moved my head a little bit to the left. You were talking and in front of my bad ear and eye,

you see. Oh, that's going to be a black guy, but I can just put over it. This is the great where he's got her over the ledge and just like, let her go. Really poor choice of words. God damn, that's funny. Just drops her ass out this window. The slide down's really cool.

Batman's saving her is really fucking great The second car in his many Batman, just demolishing from the top. Just landing on cars. He landed on a van earlier with the dog death. He's just going ass first into cars, man. You need a week off after that. Totally. Let me just leave a check here.

Let's say it's two grand, three. You need to have it so that he's at least like using the cape to stop it a little more. Because otherwise you're telling me he fell off the top of a skyscraper. landed on his back to protect her and all's gravy? I agree with that. There should have been a little more something to illustrate

like shatterproof boots or something because similarly later in the movie where he drops Eric Roberts off the fire escape and like those legs are fucking broken. You know what I mean? I was like that's what should have happened to you when you fell off that rough back there.

Whatever. So Dent goes to jail to get loud. We've got this scene where our friend's telling Bruce that he's kind of responsible for all this he's like, you push the criminals into supporting someone like the Joker. Mafia was one thing,

you see. Now this is, and there's monsters and makeup. And this is what he does do the, yeah, being my friend, because later he tells him how, like, about burning the talk about, me and my friends were just killing people two by two. It was a genetic, they were undesirables, you understand, Master Wayne, and they had to be

swept away. It's this weird, he was in Burma. Working for the military Junta or whatever the fuck. And people were trying to bribe these leaders that he was working for with all these Jewels and whatnot and the jewels were going missing. And he says he spotted a kid one day with a ruby, the size

of a grapefruit or like whatever it is. The bandit was just throwing them away. Yep. I don't know. I think this bandit sounds pretty bad ass. I wish she fucking killed your ass. Totally. Why steal them? Good sport. Some men aren't looking for anything logical like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned. or negotiated with, some men

just want to watch the world. Oh, wait, I just, I just spawned 2,000 Reddit statuses, wow, by saying some men just watch the world, it's pretty badass, is it not? Mr. Wayne. Christian, I say it's slower, so the t-shirts get the, so for the t-shirts, so they understand.

Like, Michael Cairns would have turned to the camera and be like, all right, for all of you out there watching this movie completely wrong, what I just said is not cool. It's a totally bad thing. If you're a man who just wants to watch the word burn. Now, you're still watching it wrong? All right.

What the fuck's a fortune? What is that? I have no idea. I've got no bloody idea what a fortune is, but I'm all bloody over it. And then later on, Bruce asks like, did you ever catch the bandit? And it's like, yes, we had to burn the forest down. That's a great line. How did you ever, did you catch him? Yes, how did you do it? We burned the forest down. And it was totally worth it. It was 100% worth it. Everybody said it was a good thing to

It was a super cool fire, bigger than when Wayne Manor burned. If you think about it, he killed Robin Hood. Yeah, exactly. And probably 100 other people in that fucking jungle or whatever. What kind of species of animals fucking gone? You can find out all about it in Pennyworth. Did you know that? I killed the dodo.

I got the last one. I ate it. I ate it raw. Carry a pigeon. I killed him too. You know, and the judge, you understand. I was going to go to the hike. you understand for all my crimes

but then he sent me to be your father's butler and that's just how it goes sometimes you either go to the hague or you're going to be someone's butler and then that bastard Larry David stole the idea for his show sign-fetched Bruce when you're done with him send him over to my apartment

he's supposed to be your butler he has to do what you say beached a hay guy under I suppose I'll clean your toilets master Bruce we're out to pledge again we don't even that much wood. It goes fast. I just rewatched that

episode. The pilot of Seinfeld. Yeah. That's awesome. It goes fast. Pledge doesn't go fast. So another great shot. Batman on the roof. Listen to fucking radio signals. It's great. Whenever you get the IMAX, if you're

watching this at home, it's, whenever the aspect ratio changes, you're in for a good time. Absolutely. Dude, when it gets the full TV is being used up by the aspect ratio, it's fucking great. MoMA do the 70 millimeter or was it 35? 35. Yeah. So it bounced a bit. Yeah. Can MoMA do 70 millimeter? I doubt it, yeah.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I was curious. I don't remember seeing many retrospectives of this being advertised. Oh, yeah. Funny enough, actually, though, when you said you saw it, I thought you went to the moving image to see it. Oh, no, no, no. That's awesome. I got to start, I subscribe to the newsletters for all these places. I've got to

fucking open them and read them. You got to go to screen slate. That just tells you where everything is. That's the move. Yeah. So, yeah, Aethan Orchard, you'll find Harvey Dent. Uh-oh, it's actually just two dudes with the last names of Harvey and the Dent, which is pretty fucking sweet. And in here, Batman does some ballistics situation here. He cuts the bullet hole out of the wall. And it's like, what are you going to get from the shrapnel?

He's going to get a fingerprint. I love Gordon. Like, good luck with that, lunatic. World's greatest detective, my foot. Just steal a major evidence. Oh, you're going to do Mythbusters with Alfred in a minute? That's fun. so while we get this cool little thing

Bruce does all this scientific mumbo jumbo reprints this bullet gets a fingerprint off it or whatever meanwhile this is the Mr. Reese the accountant scene where he goes into to Lucius here and he accuses him your R&D division this

that and the other thing all this money went missing whatever he's accusing him of helping Batman and he's like I want $10 million for the rest of my life every year That is a rich fucking order there, buddy. Dude, just say 10 million. And then you're walking, yeah.

10 million, you might have gotten away with it. Yep. But that every year, okay, dude, you're like 24. It would be great if Lucius just killed him right here. I'm sorry, Mr. Wayne. I had to keep the secret to understand. You have to clean this up for him. Well, you see, Mr. Reese, I don't think that's going to be happening.

Now, if you can do me a huge favor and just take two tiny steps to the right. Little father, excellent. No, no, no. I just put a little dabble of stroke juice in his drink Good old trusty stroke juice R&D has a real winner in stroke juice I'll tell you what

CIA has fucking gallons of it Stroke juice is more like it Mr. Wayne We're gonna have to burn them in your We'll put him in your pet house you understand Oh that's tasty Yeah that's more refreshing Mr. Wayne As I said I think we should get a different name for it Stroke juice I don't like seeing that on a bottle

I will call it Sierra Miss I'm a jolt Oh man But this is where After he gets the print off the round He makes mention of like The government contract thing And Lucius is like

Ah what the fuck Yeah And he's like I'm playing this one pretty close to the chest Don't worry about it Yeah don't worry about I like that I don't think he even

Does Lucius even tell him about Reese is like I'll handle this myself Because he just Oh yeah no there's nothing No he's handled small fish like before and he will again which is with the good luck

good luck it's great and this is when he goes it's the day of the the commissioner's funeral the mayor speaking of the mayor has been outed as the next target Bruce point of question about that really quickly they find out that the mayor is the next target because

the joker puts a fake obit in the Gotham times who's approving that? Yeah no exactly you can't just fucking do it's not like taken out a wanted. Maybe it's like the zodiac or we got to run it or else you know he'll pull up something. Or like when sometimes a website will just publish a bit with that with like with it unfinished

and there's just weird like blanks and shit. Yeah. Oh I well it's great now with like online shit when they sometimes like accidentally published someone who hasn't died yet. That's happened a few times with the New York Times and I'm like is that person? And then they have to like retract to me no no no sorry we just keep these things up trial

they're not dead. Whoops. Yes. Yeah. But also like Oh, Mr. Mayor, you're the next target of the Joker. Better walk in the funeral out in Toplick. You know what? And a speech to it. Yeah, seriously. You want to fucking pre-order a coffin here?

We'll do a fucking two-for-one deal at this funeral. Someone should be measuring him. Like the old Western coffin maker. Back to Future three. Oh, yeah, the pulver is just fucking measuring, Marty. I do like with this with a bagpipes. It's a really cool set piece. And in Chicago, you've got a bunch of cops and bagpipes in the street.

You bet your ass I want to want to want. the fugitive tonight. You get baby Dushmalion here, man. Dude, damn Dushmalion. Dude, I love how sinister and crazy he is in this movie. It's great. It's an awesome little thing. Yeah, Bruce, as Batman finds all the tied up dudes and realizes that the cops... I think it's Bruce's

Bruce here, actually. Yeah, that's right. But it's kind of cool. It's the one time he does this because the guys are blindfolded. Yes. He goes up to and he's like, what happened? So he's like doing... Yeah, yeah. I'm Batman. Never mind the leather jacket. You know, my webcam's off, but I'm Batman. Trust me. You can't see through those, right? Here, I'm going to wave my hand. It was so crazy. We were

tied up by the Joker and his guys and the Batman came and saved us and it was crazy. I couldn't see him. I had this thing over my eyes. The Joker had us all tied up and everything. He smelled fantastic. The cologne on Batman was just fantastic. I wouldn't think someone like Batman would wear a cologne. That's like the cologne a billionaire playboy would wear. He had a scoff on too. Hell of a scoff. It looked like it was homemade. Yeah, the sound of his shoes. It sounded like an Italian-made loafers. It doesn't really sound like a Batman thing, more of a billionaire thing. He farted right in front of me, and even that sounded rich.

High steps, no shuffle on that walk. Real, really impressive. I farted gold flakes all over the floor. You know, he left his cock keys on the desk when he came over. Those are expensive cockies. I can just back in here. Yeah, I never knew that fucking Bamboville was a Lambo. Yeah, he didn't even have keys.

He had one of those, what the guy, a fob. He had a five. He didn't have a key. And now in the window there's like the shutter there or the shade is drawn and there's a timer on it to go off where it looks like there will be a sniper's nest. Yes. And Bruce Wayne just walks over. The world's greatest detective.

Let it go off. Almost gets shot here. It causes this big shootout. But then from those guys, you found out that they took their uniforms and guns. So there's all these. And it's also like, come on, Kyle. you're surrounded by a bunch of guys who are now different

where's Greg the guy's Greg behind me in line Dave Domoshian or whatever his name is sorry I like him as an actor but I'm never going to remember it sure maybe I said it right I don't know close but he's got officer Rachel Dawes on us I love that one of your guys has a perforated cheeks

you didn't notice I know the makeup's there but come on oh that cop looks like he's got weird scars like the judge oh fuck this is when Gordon takes a bullet for uh for the uh for conspiracy yes and for conspiracy as right yeah they do shoot at the mayor and he saves him yeah and he's dead oh no jim wharton's dead i remember being rocked in the fucking theater yeah i just remember being like i can't believe it because you could buy it oh yeah yesterday when i watched this and i didn't see it in a while i was like wait did that

happen and i was like i no it took me a minute i was like i don't think so nice try jim But Dent goes up to Dasmalshian here, you know, wants to know where the Joker is. He points to the Rachel Dawes name tag and starts kind of laughing to which Dent steals this ambulance and drives this dude to remote location. I don't know anything. Oh, he's so good. He's very like, you don't get like many. I think he's like the only henchmen you really get any time with. Yeah.

Of a Joker henchman in this movie. And it's a good Joker henchman. And it's awesome because you do have like info about this guy because they know that he's, he's a dude who's like band in Arkham repeatedly. Like his Batman shows up

and it's just like that schizo that shits himself nonstop every day would you expect to learn from him? If you Desmali

it was a little bit after this you haven't seen it yet the movie Relaxer by Joel of Petrochus phenomenal movie

and he's in it and he's fantastic I should check that out it's awesome to see how much Dave Desmaltzmachian's like blown up since this movie

like whether it's like in the gun universe with those films or like late night with the devil. Poitia Jeter, he's kind of fun in that movie. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Not a great movie but kind of a fun. Oppenheimer he's kind of fun and trying to frame off him. Oh right. Yeah. I believe he's going to be M. Bison

in the next street. That's right. He is. Yeah. We'll see. I wonder if he has like a, he's going to like take a serum and become like super M. Bison. Yeah. That would be kind of something. Sure. You know, I will see that movie. I'm curious, yeah. Orville-Peck-spling Vega. Yeah, that's pretty cool. You got to watch it if we're impexen.

So, you know, you sort of have this great cross-cutting here of what's going on with Dent having Dave Dasmalshian here and Batman going with Moroni because at the same time that Dasmaltian's being fucking kidnapped and tortured, Batman

goes to Moroni's club. And I love this like Eric Robert, yeah, I'm just hanging out at the club. With my younger girlfriend Sophie. Oh, pretty cool. Stalked by my mobsters. The mozzarella sticks haven't come by yet. I asked one from the maker. I had a kitchen put in here specifically for this. If there's a mandatory one-app, one-drink minimum, the least you can do is bring me my mozzarella sticks. Now I got a mitai. Now I'm laid back baroni. Well, I should bring me mozzarella sticks. After all, I own the place. Oh my God

Let's put some apps together Make a poo poo platter But he's doing a real tough He's actually really good at this He's very good He's very good This is a movie where I mean I know we have so much fun

With Eric Roberts On Once in a Lifetime And all those silly movies But like shit This Inherent Vice Like there are There are more recent movies

In the 21st century Honestly I didn't like the movie Very much But he's great in Babylon Yes He's very good in Babylon I'm still going to see that. Margot Robbie's father, I believe.

But this is a Nolan thing that he used to do that he hasn't done in a while, which is like bring in 80s actiony guys in minor roles. Like Tom Berringer and Inception. Exactly. Rutger Hauer and the first Batman. You know what I mean? I kind of want more of that. Reclaim Gary Busey's career.

I don't know. It looks like Mason Verger. I don't know what day she is. You got to go up the other way. Dude, I saw Gary Bucy on Instagram wishing me a happy. Halloween and that guy's not going to be in a Christopher That's not happening.

Time is... Maybe we're the Cyclops. He's at the point now no one's at the point now where he can have like Josh Hartnett just in a fuck you role like... Exactly. And like it's a good...

And Josh Hartn, it's very good in Oppenheimer. That's kind of the modern equivalent. It's like, oh yeah, remember that dude from the fucking early aughts in the late 90s? But I mean, you can do like five or six. I mean, the Odyssey and in Oppenheimer. Clear the cast. I mean, the cast list is fucking nuts.

Oh, yeah. He was like, Jesus Christ. But this is the great... He was not in that, actually. Jesus Christ. Oh, no, he's a bit player. He might be in Odyssey, though. He was the guy with Casey Affleck when he came in. He's definitely not in Odyssey. Was that before his time?

Yes, a little bit. Oh, man. But this is great, because he's hanging him off this fucking fire escape, and he's like, you're so stupid from this hat. The fall wouldn't kill me. I'm counting on it. And he just drops his, too. When you watch the thing, it's just a, it's a great noise to it always with, yep. And then you think about like the first movie with the, you know, the Mark Boone Jr.

Yes. Oh, sure. And you're not expecting him just to drop someone. And it's great to see him just drop someone. It's awesome. But yeah, you know, Batman's got rules and the Joker doesn't. Just take off that mask and let him come find you. Yeah.

It's good, oh, you're going to wait for more people to die while you make up your mind. It's a very good, like, mobstery deal. Keep doing the Eric Roberts, stupid guy voice. You are doing what he's more accurately doing, which bolsters my thing of him being good in this movie and actually acting. Oh, no, Sophie, I got dropped by Batman. Friends, have you met this guy? But this is really great here because we go back to Dent.

He's torturing Dust Malsheet here, and he's ready to fucking kill him, and we do the coin flip thing. It doesn't work out the way Harvey wants it to, so he goes, oh, let's try it again. and he goes to do it and Batman catches and this is another I was like did no one hear this guy well it's a two two sided coin that's the gag

yeah that's what I mean I'll do it again yeah he's trying to trick this guy he's never going to kill this Harvey will never kill him is the idea well it's bad but he's talking about Batman sneaking up well yeah if Batman stops him but like that's why Harvey's like I was like

he can't leave a man's life to Chensick I wouldn't is the idea that's like so he's not fully pushed yet you're saying well I once his face is burned and the Joker talks him in the hospital, then he's fully... It shows you he's got an edge, but he's not going to kill the guy because he's like, heads you live, tails I'll kill you and he keeps

blipping it. He's bluffing, he's bluffing. I see. But yeah, Batman, I'm like, you have to hear a boot. There's got to be something. He's fucking running up to Texas coin. Trained this guy. You know what? If you're telling me ninjas still have anything to do with this movie,

there's nary a fucking blue flower to be found. I don't know what's going on. The ninjas, were not working with Lucius Fox gear, you know? Yeah, that's true. They didn't train with the same super boots. Sneakers for sneaking. This is great because Batman's like,

uh, if they fucking saw you doing this, it's all over, asshole. I can do this shit. You can't get out of here with this. Uh, which is, which is really good. And this is around the time. Rachel's telling, uh, you know, Batman turning himself in. It's not going to stop the joker. This is so fucking pointless. Like, you turn yourself in.

He's just going to keep going. I do love the Eckhart yelling because on his way out, he's like, I'm going to give the Joker what he wants. You can't give him. You can't give him! Just a great Eckhart yelling line. I do like there's a cute moment when Bruce is like going to this press conference to reveal that he's Batman and they're sort of closing up. He's got Michael Kane burning all of these papers in the hideout or whatever.

And he's like, you know, all right, today you get to say, I told you so. And he's like, today I won't. But I could bloody tell you. And then it's like, you're going to tell them that I was your accomplice or whatever? He's like, accomplice. I'm going to tell him you did the whole thing or whatever. It's cute. They've got a good back and forth.

I do love also like the, what would you have me do, Alfred? Endure. The way Michael Kane can say the word endure with 14 syllables. And only then does it make me want to endure? I got to hear it that way. Endure. Oh, I sit up a little straighter after I hear that. This is the press conference where Aaron Eckhart, as Harvey Dent is about to reveal.

And he's just talking about, you know, the times we've been through. And the guy just yelling, things are worse than ever is my favorite guy. Just going to heckle that at a press conference. Like, it's just like that guy, like he missed the bus this morning. Yep. The fucking, the coffee shop messed up his egg sandwich. Things are worse than ever right now. My God.

Got to go to this press conference. And the cops have been shooting him down all day. No more cops die. No more. So like the public's demanding Like no no no Fuck all that Like we don't care

This guy needs to turn himself in Because the Joker keeps killing people I do love also the And it's ubiquitous and real And it's fine But it's annoying The no more dead cops Not like no more dead citizens

No no no no There's all and then the whole room Has to cheer Of course we got to do that But then Harvey's like All right fine I'm Batman Arrest me

Bullshit All righty there shall we go to jail? He's really just trying to I need somebody in the back. Oh shit! Harvey on Batman! I mean I am Harvey

I am Batman. I mean I Harvey. Yes. He does do the I'm the Batman. I've never been a fan of people saying the Batman. Really? So you didn't like that new movie?

I love the weird thing is I love the movie The Batman, but I don't like what people refer to him as the Batman. It's kind of weird. It's kind of, you know what it's like? A Batman? I think we did it in the movie. It begins, too, right?

I think Scarecrow had something like, the Batman. Yeah, yeah, they do do it. But, no, it's like you should know better. You should know how to say that dude's name. Like, it's like, it's like, it's like fucking, well, because now it's like he's been around for so long. You got to be a little more informal. You lose the the, the, it's the title. Oh, he is the Batman.

No, he's Batman. He lives in a Batman house. He drives a Batman car. But that was Michael Keaton. Fuck's his Batman wife. Oh, wait. Like, if you yelled Batman, he would turn around and go, yes. Like, that's his name.

It's not his title. Fair enough. Yeah, his title is the dark night. Exactly. So, you know, Alfred is saying, you know, perhaps Bruce and Mr. Dent stand for something bigger. He's not being a hero, he's being something more. This is where Rachel gives Alfred this letter. Like, hey, give this to Bruce when the time is right.

And it's a great line. He's like, well, how would I know when the time is right? She goes, it's unsealed. I would read it anyway. I would shield or not. I mean, we got, you might not. notice. He's rich as fuck. There's a whole office supply closet in this penthouse. We got all sorts of envelopes and I can just get a new one. And I can forge your signature. My friends in Burma taught

me that one too. But it's, yeah, it's a nice moment of it's unsealed. You know, you're totally fine to read it. It's great. So she sees Harvey off into getting arrested here. He gives her the the dad's lucky coin which is kind of a nice thing. And then this leads into get your whoops ready. This is the debt transport scene whooping it up, dude. I had this coin up my ass.

Your father stuck this coin. A bizazze. The shitty side is unlucky. He'd be damned if the Joker get his greasy white hands all over it. Oh, those aren't scratches. It's feces. I'm giving it to you. Right away, by the

the way, the late Makey Cat is one of the SWAT team guys. Right when you're trying to do this whole transport here and you see a blazing fire truck in the middle of the road. Yeah, let's take two. It's not a, oh, I guess we have to go this way instead. It's a let's shut everything down and sort of look at everything here. Let's get the the reserve SWAT team. Let's get them going.

Get the backups ready. They couldn't possibly wanting us to go down to lower whack or drive. That couldn't be part of the point. Let's outsmart them and go down there. We definitely have a Mission Impossible. Which one is this? Where we smash the car into the river? Fallout.

It's fallout, right? Oh, man, this fucking SWAT truck just going to the Chicago River right here. It's awesome. It looks so cool. All of the car shit in these movies. Here's the thing. That guy was a maniac. He saw this movie twice in a week in a museum and bothered people about it.

But you do want to whoop. It's a whoop worthy scene. Well, now that we're here, though, when you saw it with him, could you hear whooping? Oh, he whooped. Yeah. You got one whoop. But that's the thing.

Trust you. Like, have some confidence. People whoop. People, it's not like people are going to like, it's, yeah. Don't tell me you're going to woo. Exactly, exactly, Eric. Because now you're just waiting for it. You're waiting for the who.

Well, like, what do you think is going to happen? You're going to do it. Hey, stop that. Well, I think maybe he was kind of concerned. Maybe he's never really been to Mama before. Like I said, it's dark night. Who knows who you're. He was there Wednesday.

No, but like he's still new to come. This is the first time. So maybe he's like, this is a museum. Have I pushing my luck? Let me see. Let me get consent before I move. Like, I don't know. Can I get crazy like I do with the fucking Times Square AMC or the, you know, this is a fucking museum.

Like, how should I react? People get scared in Yelp. You have confidence. You can whoop. There's a Yelp happening. It can be a whoop. An old man yelled at Eric and In Bruges for chewing popcorn too loud. And he was a moron.

Yeah. Now he's definitely long dead. He's got to be dead. He's got to be just buying fucking numbers. I gave him a fright that night too. He went home that very night and died. And you sat down and the first time Ray Fines came on screen, you whooped. And that's just how these things happened.

Quite the altercation because his wife got into it too. Oh, yeah. You fucking set her in her place. Yeah, I told her to go fuck herself. And he, she turns to her husband. I mean, these people are like in their 70s. He told me to go fuck myself. He got up, started trying to, like, he was like,

one of these scarf old men scarfs on and waving a newspaper at me like a dog basically i said try it old man you try to hit you on your snout no he backed down and we watched the movie and i chewed my fucking that's right as you should great detail here i just noticed this time around the truck that the joker pulls up in here oh yeah on the side of it hyam's amusement parks yes and their their logo or their motto or whatever is laughter is the best medicine and we've added the S. Slaughter is the best medicine. And it just made me think, and it's cool that it's not in the movie, it's totally fine. But it made me sort of add in, there's a Joker hideout at this old, like, Hymes Amusement

Parks, abandoned factory, very cartoon. I started to get this whole cartoon episode in my head. I kind of feel like, because if you think about it, Nicholson was the Joker in 89, this is 2008. It's nearly 20 years. I could have used a 20-year break from the Joker. You know what I mean? could have used and now maybe another Joker movie could come out now

right who's the new Joker but we got fucking we got we got Jared Leto and then we got Wachene Phoenix and then you know there's jokers upon Joker Barry Cogan whoever that kid was doing the Joker on Gotham no I agree with you Steve I could have used

Harley Quinn they're animated in the show oh the animated stuff even that like that's just a fucking a wave but like I just I could have used a 20 year break of the because the Joker's a great character, but it's a space. Well, it was a, it was a 19 year break. That wasn't good enough for you? No, that's what, but now. Oh, you're

saying, this to now. Yes. Oh, I thought you were saying that it wasn't enough time between Nicholson and this and I was like, but it was 19. And that's what made it special. It was like, oh, that's the thing. It's like, oh, that's the thing is well, you are

thinking logically. You are not thinking money brain. Yeah. Money brain is like that's old stuff. We got to make another thing that's shell stuff. They're going to say why so serious, but in a different way now. Well, I mean, now we're going to have at least two active Batman. You know what I mean? At least two.

Like, honestly, get Mr. Freeze going again. Sure. Change it up. I mean, that's exactly what they did. Fucking the Jared Letto Joker is on fucking merchandise. Of course he is. You saw it. Also in my neighborhood, there's a car that has a rap on it where it's, no.

It's that Joker. It's Jared Leto and Margo. And they're like kissing on the back of this guy's. And this is a different car? It's a different car. So they're at war with each other maybe? It could honestly be, dude. There's a lot of cars in this neighborhood.

There's a big fucking Humvee somewhere that you will see in this neighborhood. It's, of course, fucking Blue Lives Matter all over it. But he's also, don't worry about it, an official zombie hunting. No, yeah. You're a fucking loser. Look at this. It's what happens when you get Zoran his mayor. Two jokers, zombie hunters, the freaks are coming out.

Great Nicky Catline here. What is that? A bazooka? Man, he does bring so much to this sequence, man. He was really great. Real fucking sad story. And the idea is you don't know who's driving the truck. It's just a faceless guy.

Yeah. It is awesome. That's not good. Yes. When you do see the Joker, like, appear in that truck or whatever, there's the dude. The driver is like some old guy and he's got a cowboy hat on. Fucking awesome. A cowboy hat in a Batman movie.

I met this clown at a bar last night. He gave me $200 grand to fucking drive a truck. All right. They started killing people, and I just rolled with it. I just was driving him, but then the weird thing was we stopped for a second. He opened my door and kicked me in the back, and I fell out. The Joker also shoots a fucking cop to start the scene with a shotgun immediately. The guy's like, you got to move your car.

Oh, right? I just like, real quick. Yes, I forgot about that guy. Really cool gunplay from the Joker. Like, he's got this cool, like, automatic handgun for a second. He had that at the start heist as well. Yes. I love that thing.

I want to get one of those. It might be one of the few guns in America that's illegal Well, I'll just go to a fucking road show thing Yeah, loophole that shit Oh, when you're there, you're picking some Nazi plates, please? Oh, of course, yeah, you're getting a little Chris Cooper dining room happening? Dude, you want to talk about Nazi plates? I'm so glad that all these like elections are over with

Because we were getting, of course, Steve, you were in and dated with it. I get it. You guys, I think were spare. Eric, maybe you were you getting the shitterelli? Yeah, I was getting everything because my TV's, on New York. I think it was a Jackson Raleigh commercial or maybe it was there was also this like anti-Momondani like

bring New York back bullshit thing and it was this oh yeah no it was a woman who was running for DA in Manhattan and this commercial is this guy who just straight up definitely has Nazi plates in this house there's no way around it and he's

like giving a lecture to children or something and it's this weird like well yeah you always want to go this way in case there's danger and it's some sort of like look for the helpers kind of thing. And then he stops and he's like, but you also know when Alvin Bragg's New York you're going to be raped and killed, right? Oh, wow. And it's just this fucking terrible

commercial. I mean, I'm being exaggerating. He doesn't say that, but it's just something awful, fearmongering like that. But you're looking at this guy and I was like, that guy's got collector play. Oh, for sure. That ain't no actor. You got to check that fucking hutch, dude. See what's in there. Check that hutch. So, I mean, this scene

just goes. All the stuff on Lower Wackers, amazing. Again, cool car shit. He wipes out the Batmobile. and it's inject mode into the bat cycle. Shout out to the garbage truck as well, which was doing some carnage with these cops. Oh, dude, yeah. And then Batman just fucking

fucking goes head to head just right at that garbage truck and like jacks it up and pushes it out of the way. And it's great because the Batmobile was so exciting in the last movie and Nolan understands like we're gonna give you something new.

You know what I mean? You can't just do the same thing over again. Like we had some fun with the Batmobile. Now that's over and now here comes this really cool bat pod deal and the bat pod thing so this is where so we're racing around lower wacker of course the third act of the blues brothers has this all over the place but any i didn't even notice this before there's a part where he takes the bat cycle and drives it through a mall really briefly oh wow do you have a miss piggy yeah oh the winter whatever's are in yeah it's so

fucking here what imports this mall's got everything oh i love it it's so cool and yeah also dude the joker bringing down this helicopter there's even some helicopter plane here and then yeah flipping this fucking truck man it's so fun to watch oh my god and yeah you it's a whoop it definitely qualifies for whooping

I love it's like it's like an AT ATT take time yes except it's not a model this is a truck being flipped on a street in Chicago in the middle of the night I love it's beautiful man I heard on the news that that happens every night yeah well it's a war zone

Yeah, I heard that. Did you know that? Yeah, I did know that. You need some fake Batman to sort it out. That's what you're gonna need. Yeah, you need some fucking divorced loser and hockey pads to figure it out. Two jokers in your neighborhood alone. The cities are burning. We found him and there was packets of Franklin's Red Hot in his wake. But the Joker gets out here and this is great.

Him, hit me. You want to do it. I want you to do it. Hit me. It's so cool. And Batman, you know, skids out of the way, crashes the fucking. thing, which is great. This one goon getting electrocuted by Batman's

cowl is really cool. And I love, this is a very, uh, uh, the Joker kind of acting like the hitchhiker in Texas chainsaw. Yeah. Because the guy electrocutes himself and it excites him so much and he's just kicking the shit out of that guy. And he's like hooting and hootting. Yeah. Doing the electricity

like, whirr-r-huh. Is it making fun of him? Yeah. It's so fucking good. I would be like, I need to be in another gang man. This is okay. I got electric kid. He fucking made fun of me and stepped on me. And they keep saying the purple jackets will be here on Monday.

When am I getting my purple jacket? I haven't been paid. I applied for the party man division. And I still haven't gotten the transfer. I want my boombox, God damn it. And this is when who comes out, but Jim Gordon, and this is one of the, you were all in the same theater. The biggest applause breaks in a theater that I've ever seen.

I almost wanted to be like, wait, turn the movie. off. We're not done clapping and we're going to miss stuff. Like, it was just cacophonous. The applause and well done. I mean, like, totally well deserved. We were all just completely fooled. That's great. Oh, we're going to tell the wife you're okay. Oh, he told

the wife he's okay. Although he is profoundly divorced after this situation. Like, so significantly divorced. Man, it is brutal. She slaps him in the face. Because in between these scenes, there is a scene of the cops

having to tell his wife that he is dead and she like blames Batman who's perched up there you brought this to us you did it I hope I'll be expecting an apology when she finds out this is all that would be great

if at the end of this it's the old thing like I have to bet Batman can be the dark night well I got to tell you this Batman I'm actually I'm getting divorced I might be your dark night I'm getting divorced and she's gonna

go to the papers she's got some stories like they don't like she doesn't get to identify the body or anything no ma'am he's like dog food you wouldn't want to see that uh you know what hold off on a plan of the funeral just yet just just wait a couple of days don't put the deposit on the casket yet he's just a bag of meat he'll last a week I also always called him slop I want a deleted scene of like Jim Gordon like in a penthouse apartment the Batman puts them up in for a couple days Just eat bad pizza.

Like just drinking. Like Home Alone 2. Exactly. The risky business. Cross the floor. This is fantastic. I'm not really catching up on all my pornography that I wanted to watch. And a whole cheese pizza just for me.

Jim Gordon. I got decades worth of pornography I need to catch up on. You know, they stopped caring about the stories a long time ago. You know, I can't watch the good band The Ugly. The kids aren't here. The kids aren't here. Just the volume up. Do you know the browser

starting the odds? I feel like they've been here since like the 50s at least. This fucking machine guns blaring through his surround sounds as to be spilling ice cream all over himself. I love being dead. It's fantastic. I don't want to be resurrected ever. Yeah, Gordon

dead and loving him. This is great. Oh man. So this of course is the big sequence of the Joker. In the police station here. Nothing in his pockets but knives and lynn's trailer line and a good one very good one absolutely um the mayor at this moment in front of everybody just makes gordon commissioner i feel like this is something that's put to him

behind closed door office but then you get the joker dude the joker clapping along with everybody else is so funny it's great and you know he also like what's the money situation like what you know what what are my bennies looking like you're the commissioner come on you're the commissioner You're the commissioner. The bennies are what they've always been. Terrible. Yeah. Then we admit this fat guy whose guts hurts.

My guts hurt. My insides hurt. Come on, man. I know it's Chicago and you got Blackside prisons, but or Gotham, whatever, same thing. Check, someone, kind of medic? Check this guy out? Can you check it to the hospital first? He's like sweating and could barely stay.

You want to know how that fat guy got these scars? Well, maybe that's why, dude. Maybe that's why. It's like, this is more Chicago than we thought. It's like, ah, that guy is. just had a bad Portillo's dip. So here's a question I have for Steve. You're the DC guy.

Sure. What is the deal with this Bobby or Jimmy Gordon? And why is Barbara not a character in this movie? I'm deeply confused. It's in like year one. He's got his son as well, like the Batman year one story. Yeah, okay. I sort of vaguely remembered that.

I don't, I've never really looked into it. It's very confusing because to me he's only, he's got one kid. It should be Barbara. And that's it. That's the idea. I never know what the sun is. I guess maybe Nolan just doesn't like women that much. That he's like, I can't understand being sad about a girl. It has to be sad for a boy.

That's why he doesn't write for them. Yeah, exactly. There's a really good, the kid is like, oh, did Batman save you? And this is really good, Gary Oldman, hitting this line in the fatherly way that you need to. Actually, this time, I saved Batman. Like, it's so good. And actually this time, Mom and I are going to just take some time apart, you understand.

You're going to get to see this cool apartment. Batman's putting it up. Your Uncle Bruce is going to have. Every other weekend. Yes, exactly. Limited. Little Jimmy, I saved Batman. And now they're all going to have two Christmases.

It's going to be fantastic. Wow. Thanks, Batman. That made me two Christmases. Jim, this kid doesn't understand the stakes. Great line here. Evening. Commissioner.

Oh, man. This is just great. We learned a debt never made it home after being rescued from the SWAT car. What'd you do with him? Me? I was in here. I was right here. I get it's the way he shows the shackles.

It's a comedic performance. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So many of, I mean, I think Phoenix does a good job with the Joker in that movie that I'm not crazy about, but the performance is good. But it is so dark and so dry and so withdrawn and like you know cracker thin it's fun to watch somebody ham it up a little bit i mean i mean nickleson did yes exactly like nicholson's legitimately funny

ledger is legitimately fun that's the thing is i do the thing that i have problems with phoenix is like even when he's supposed to be i don't find him scary yeah and the thing with both the nicholson and the ledger is that there are parts where they're scary like what look at me stuff like that is genuinely when he when even Nicholson when he electrocutes that guy it's unsettling Phoenix is just pathetic

yeah and his jokes are purposely bad not on his he's not wanting to be bad you double and tripled down on this in cell shit and it polluted your water it just made the thing not work and I needed that element of like no this guy's malevolent this guy is scary

the less said about Jared Leto the better oh sure that's just that's not even I was just about to say that that Folly do is like one of the absolute worst movies I'm actually I still haven't seen it it's really bad I've heard nothing but absolutely like it's valueless and it wasn't even crazy I didn't like the first and it's long

it's fucking long I do love right here this great reveal because it's like Jim Gordon and the Joker in this like dark detention cell room and whatever and then Gordon's like if we're gonna play games I'm gonna need a cup of coffee and he leaves

and the lights turn on and Batman's right behind him it's such a great review right here. He smashes his face. I got to get a cup of coffee because the coffee at the Marriott that I'm staying in currently is not fantastic. Hey Batman, when am I getting the keys to that apartment? Guaranteed there's better coffee around you than there.

Oh, the smash on the head is so good. You didn't disappoint. You let five people die and dent take your place. Never start with the head. It makes the video. Pudgy. Yeah. You're garbage that kills people for money. Don't talk like them. You're not one of them.

Yeah. Even if you pretend to be. This whole like this is the scene right. This is like we are two sides of the same coin. We need each other to survive like which we have seen the Joker and Batman have a similar conversation and other things before but man does it really

hit here. It's so good. I love the whole like Batman beating the shit out of him and stuff like and it's just like there's nothing you can do with all your strength. Yeah you can do anything. Which is great. Way to defeat a guy. Just take the punches is what one of the brilliant things that Ledger can do is fine

the rhythms he brings out of this character, you can allow for vulnerability. You can allow for these little moments to just fleck off of like, you think he's bullshitting most of this time when he's like, you complete me, but like there has to be an element of him believing

it. Yeah. Oh yeah. And for us to believe that he believes it and that takes vulnerability. And it's incredible what he does with this performance. When he says he's never going to kill him, which he says twice in this movie, you believe it both times. Oh, there's no way he would ever kill him. Well, just tell our wives we're going on a fish

and he's basically saying to him in this moment like if you want to win if you want to win this war you are going to have to break your cardinal rule and kill people you're going to have to kill me to the response Batman puts the chair up against the door handle so nobody else can get it

and now they're like oh this is going this is bad because they do the cops before that are like Jim and he's like he's in control like when he's got him like up against the wall but what gets him to put the chair up is because he reveals, he also has Rachel. And then it's

like, oh man. Yep, that's right. That's my favorite gillen hall. I like Jake. I like Rachel. I like Maggie. Jake, Maggie. There's that line like, I thought it was I thought it was Harvey Dad. The way you drove after her. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's kind of interesting because in that

exchange, doesn't he kind of, he doesn't outright say it or anything like that, and he kind of alludes to knowing that for whatever reason Batman has feelings for this woman not like a, I know you're fucking Bruce Wayne. No, but it's not that but it's like her. For some reason, whoever's under

there likes that girl. And you know, I love the line, what time is it it depends whether they're, they might be in one place or a Chevro place. God damn, that's good too, man. And so then yeah, this sets off this big sequence where it's, uh, he's got

the Joker has both hard David Dent and Rachel Dawes tied up in different places. They've got bombs and big canisters of chemicals or gasoline or whatever around them. And now it's like, okay, here's where they are. The one's at this address and one's at this address. And the joker says, like, he's here and she's there. And so Batman sends them all going to get Harvey. And he's going to go get Rachel.

And then the great flip, he opens the door. and it's Batman comes in on Harvey. No, no, go get hurt. What are you doing here? And like, it's, it's so, like, sad because Rachel was, like, made peace with the, they're going to die together. This conversation, Maggie's, like, so great

and it's, like, it's okay, it's okay. And then, like, when it's happening, like, you really feel for... It's brutal, too, because it's a mid-sentence kill. She's like, yeah, okay, but, and then boom. And, like, yeah, I honestly think this is why it's a lot better than Curtis Holmes have you heard Katie Holmes doing this. I think they were like looking at that scene that was written and

they were like, she's nice and all, she can't do that. Yeah. This is like the crux of the movie. Yes. This is why he becomes two-face and his motivation for giving up on the, you know, societal system and everything. Like, yeah, we need someone to bring the oomph out of these lines. Katie was fine when it was a throwaway character in the first one. Yeah. When that was that, it's fine. She could just smile and be like, oh, yeah, we knew each other. Yeah. Oh, can you carry me? Thank you. It is the cutoff, though. Harvey, it's okay.

Listen, some... We see the wind pickup. Like, it's the little, like, these little details he gets. And also, Harvey Dead's face burning. Bha! It's brutal. It's so... And, like, Batman has saved him.

Yeah. It's like the explosion just rattles Batman and he falls over. Like, classic fuck-up at work. It's a real cock-up, dude. Totally. This is embarrassing, Batman. It's really embarrassing. Also, when you should smell the gasoline on the dude's face,

let me get that off there for you, buddy. Don't worry. The Joker planned to be caught. He wanted me to lock him up in the MCU. Major crimes unit, major crime unit, major crimes unit. And then you get this. Hello, Dr. Strange. What I don't know how I got these guys?

What I got these gems? Oh, wow. This is a weird crossover, Peter. You want to know how I got these gems? Never know. But yeah, oh, the Joker broke out. Because the fat guy exploded. Yeah.

So they leave the Joker alone and this like run of the mill cop is watching him. He's like, how many of your friends did I kid? Oh, right. And in a way, I knew them more than you because in their last moments, they reveal who they really are. How many of them were cowards? Do you want to know? Oh, yes. And like it goads him into fighting

him and then he breaks out with this guy with a knife to his neck and I just want my phone calls. Right. Yeah. And then this is the fat guy. The fat guy, the phone going off in the fat guy and the medics are like, is that a phone? And it's kind of great

because like again what Nolan decides to shoot in IMAX and not like maybe the explosion wasn't IMAX but most of the sequence is just regular format but the shot of Heath coming out of the fucking cop car

feeling the carnage yep he just it's not a it's not a fucking action shot it's just like I want this shot to be the big one it's like the shot you would see after like some innocent person when I'm like a crime spree in a David Gordon Green movie.

Yes, exactly. And it's just this beautiful, like the wind in his hair and it's all silent. Like, very cool. It's all, I mean, it's, it's a con-back. I mean, I hate to be the theme, but the dogs. Yeah, yeah, he's a dog. Talk about the dogs.

Now they're impulsive and shit. Yeah, he sticks his head out the window. Yeah, oh, that's good. Yeah, soon enough, he'll do that dog line. Uh, so she's dead. Oh, we got out with any peanut butter jokes, think of it. Well, that's later. We'll get there.

Um, but this is, Alfred reads the line and you hear Maggie reading this in voiceover is really nice and it's like by the way Bruce I'm going to marry Harvey because I know that I said I'd be with you once Gotham didn't need Batman and I meant that but

you will always need Batman which is the problem. I say a lot of things also I'm a huge liar when I said that it was like I was a completely different person it happens to all of us we fall in love with different people it happens oh and at the MCU the Joker finds

Lau and takes him away. Yeah, you're right. But she has this great line, please keep your faith in people she says to him. And then Alfred's bringing in the fucking breakfast with the letter right there and he's just like sitting staring out the window. Why would this be the best time for him? He does

is like, you know what, don't worry about this letter. Of course he should have never been there in the first place. Here's the thing, anytime dad is wearing the bat suit at the couch, just leave him alone. You know what I mean? You couldn't get the armor off before you had to sit down in the living room? Yeah, I'm going to let this guy watch TV.

He's been there for four days. Did anyone touch the thermostat? God damn it, Alfred. The fucking dishwasher hasn't been empty. A fucking swimming pool of vinegar down there, okay? Everybody just get away. Gotham needed a hero, and I let that psychopath blow him up, which is great. He's asking Alfred, like, did I bring this on her?

Did I do it? Whatever. And then this is what inspires Alfred to take away the letter. He's like, it's just crazy, Alfred. she was ready to leave him and she told me in so many words she hadn't told him yet but I knew it Alfred well the greatest thing is we could never let Harvey know

man Alfred's like douche too oh wow oh yeah no she totally chose you master Wayne for sure and then this scene ends with the how did you get that guy in Burma we burn the forest down which is great so here we go

Dent waking up in the hospital I still don't like this CGI And it should have been just straight practical The face Yeah I just I don't think it works It holds up for me I like it a lot Really even in 2008 I was like oh it's computer I like how gruesome it is

I feel like the eyeball was a touch too far maybe I think the eyeball yeah It's simple enough I think they don't The design is cool but that's the thing though Like if it's so simple Use makeup But the makeup the problem with makeup is you can't make it less. You know what I mean? It's always

going to be more. You're going to put something on top of it. It's going to be thicker as opposed to less, which you're burning off your face, you know, like, it gets a more dramatic look for me anyway. I get your point. But also, here's a thing. Yeah, but that's like just that he was

going for a completely different thing. You know what I mean? I feel like if you wanted a realistic burned head, like you can do that with makeup. Yeah. I think they would have buzzed half of his hair instead of having half a hair cut. Yeah. I feel like it's time to start over. Yeah, totally. Let's just get, you know what, Harvey, we're going to get all of this off here. Exactly. I mean, I just, I think they were going to use. I mean, this is, Nolan uses light CGI. He likes using it a little bit. And like, this to me, it was, it works. I get the emotions. Like, there was no moment where I was supposed to like, feel something where I was impeded because of the computer. It didn't, it didn't hurt. I mean, like, I don't think I was impeded, but it doesn't, uh, it doesn't, uh, stop my enjoyment of the movie.

I just find it kind of distracting, honestly. And the eyeball, I think, is a big part of it, Eric. Yeah, I just, I'm just looking at that eyeball way too much. But I love Eckhart. The transformation here, like, as he's two faces, just really great. And it's great because Gordon's coming up to apologize to

him. He's like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And he's like kind of like, probably high on pain meds I met. That's right. He refuses to take pain grafts. He refuses to take painkillers and he's refusing skin grafts. Because he's just pure enrage at this point and it's just like what was that name they used to

call me and like at that point you got to do the Jerry Seinfeld in the Cigar Store Indian episode and just be like I'm sorry I'm not familiar with that term like you just have to like not remember I know it's too face I know they called me yeah the dude's face has been melted off

it's kind of your fault even if he's like what's the name what's I don't I don't remember that was Vasquez man yeah exactly the Vasquez and Chudders you know they kept on doing that shit with you I never heard it Was it a good guy, right? Was it a good guy?

Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to think about what it was. I'm going to try to remember. I'm going to go out in the hallway and find the vending machine. I'll be right back. Exactly. You're a car start driving away. You're peeling out.

Harvey, I do think it was very horrible for them to call you Harvey Car Dent. It was terrible for them to call. I don't think they should have done that. Oh, that's the nickname I heard. What did you hear? What have you been here? What was this? Two-face.

That's crazy. You have one face, Harvey. I know that. This is great. I mean, this Eckhart yelling, say it. It's so good. He says, Two-Face. Harvey Two-Face.

And it's a great, then why should I hide who I am? Yes. Which is really, and here's the thing. Like, it is pretty much going into the end of the movie. Yeah. And he dies at the end of it. And he's so great in this limited time as Two-Face. I just find it unfortunate

that the third movie is not him dealing with a two-face crime. I know, but less is more for me. I'm tired of saving it for the sequel. Give it all to me here. When this came out, I was disappointed with that and I was like, well, and that's it for Two-Face, but I don't want more, I feel.

I feel like this is perfect. And I can totally see that. I think that's fine. I said earlier, I wish he became Two-Face earlier in the movie. If it was earlier in the movie and it was just this movie, totally fine. My beef with it, though, is

Two-Face is, I think, like, the number two under the Joker in the Batman roster of, like, villains with a real, like, connection to Bruce Wayne and Batman and all that. I just think, like, he's too major of a villain to just get this. That's just how I look at it. Yeah, I like the two-faces of a machination of the story. He is part of the story. Sure, yeah, yeah.

He only exists to serve the story as opposed to. But, of course, I would love an Iron Eckhart, Two-Feyer. movie because he is so great in this movie. But if you bolstered him in this, you would fall prey to that old symptom of too many villains. Sure. Yeah, totally. Then he can't have the Joker. And they're going to team because that's the thing. They don't team up in this. The Joker makes him

and is also in this sequence, in the next sequence, he's ready to kill himself to be like, this is cool. I've done my work here. You go off and just be a scarred monster. I believe this. This is my philosophy. I believe I actually believe this shit. And he just, he wins him over on that alone.

That's all you need. I love the fucking coin flip. We're kind of jumping a little bit ahead. That's right. I think we're totally fun. Yeah. The coin flip part, when he takes out the coin and just the way Ledger just looks like, oh, now we're talking. Like, he's getting the boner about how the fucking steaks are getting up, just like my dick.

I've seen this circulate on the internet, and they're right after rewatching it is just like, he doesn't know that that's the Joker before the Joker takes off the surgical mask. It is very funny. It may be, you know. But I guess nurses, a lot of old nurses wear a lot of makeup those gals. I thought you I thought you were that gladys nurse

That rotten gladys Yes But before that sequence We do get the burning of the money Which is incredible Oh yeah Oh sure yeah I love sliding down the pile of money

It's so great Russian guy's about to cry When he says the money burning He's a Chechen And Lowe's on the top of it We don't see him burn up But he's gonna Yeah he's gonna be dead

Oh my gosh I see you ever fucking notice That Lows on the top of the money He's tied up there Oh I got to fucking turn it on after you guys leave. I don't watch that again. I didn't even notice. Jesus Christ. And he just basic, you know, this is the, you know, like, I'm only

burning my half, by the way, which is a great and I believe him. Yeah, sure. You can have your crime money, I don't care. But that he kills him anyway because it's just like, you get, it's so fucking boring. This is what, here's how you can tell the Joker's a great recruiter, right? He sets two face off doing his thing, his own little

plan there. He is also he acquires the Chechens dog army. Yes, that's right. After he kills this guy, which he has his own dogs eat him, by the way. We're told that's going to be this guy's fate. These are the Rottweilers at the end of the movie that Batman's thrown off the construction site. While I was getting healed up from these scars, I had to watch Snatch

all the time. I liked the pig talk, so I thought I'd get some dogs. You know, actually, Batman, I'm going to quit being the Joker. I just love these dogs so much. I've put a real bond with that. I'm going to breed them upstate. I'm going to open a shelter with Dave Batista. This is where we get the Anthony Michael Hall show with Reese going on. Oh, yes, Reese says he's going to reveal on the air who Batman is. Another 80s icon back in this, you know, in the universe.

Yeah, totally. Anthony Michael Hall, good pathetic villain on season three of Reacher, right now. Oh, nice. Oh, absolutely. One of the most pathetic deaths you'll see. What a loser. It's awesome. He's such a loser.

I love a loser. I might watch it. It's Richard, big recommend. This is the, he's going to reveal who Batman is and just an hour at the end of the show. but the Joker calls in. This is like when Trump calls Fox and Friends. And it's just like I had a vision

of, you know, no Batman. It was so fucking boring. If Arthur Reese is a dead in an hour, I'm going to blow up a hospital. I don't want Mr. Reese spoiling everything. And why should I only have all the fun? If Coleman Reese isn't dead in 60 minutes, then I blow up a hospital.

You know what? You said fun. And that's what he always does with like this bad AI. It's just fun. Oh, it's fun. Watching me shit on the American, it's fun. It's, oh, my crypto coin that I'm making billions of dollars. It's fun.

Also, Batman has determined, because he does a quick look-see here, and he's like, oh, there's actually only two cops on GCPD that have relatives in the hospital. One is Ramirez. And the other one is this dude that is, uh-oh, sitting in the car with Gordon with a fucking shotgun trained on him. He gets a text from Batman I love all the texting And then it's just like Okay wait for the next message to come in Oh it's just dick

Oh no man Oops I told you to watch out Also you're using the Wi-Fi password To that apartment way too much in the porters I know what you're watching do I know I know it's ugly Look at it It's a great moment though

Gordon goes I'm gonna need your weapon And the dude just lowers The shotgun like looking at him Oh, it's fucking great. And so Bruce Wayne here can't operate as Batman in the daylight there. So he's driving his Lamborghini following Gordon and this guy. And he notices like this Jan Sixer in a fucking Ford F-150.

Like, there he is. There's the guy. Yeah, speeds up, gets hit. A lot of potential ice agents in this movie. Definitely. I like Gordon's line of like, that's a brave thing you did. What, trying to catch the light? Oh, yeah.

He's just playing in a luf, doofus. It's so good. And he gives Rees the look of like, I saved you, fuck, the look should also say, Arnold, definitely give you 10 million, but no more. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta pay this guy off. Exactly.

Break your rule and kill him. Or just put him in a situation where you're not going to kill him, but you don't have to save him. Find one of the, one of your classic situations that he comes up with. You just put him into a shark tank kind of thing. Lower him to the ocean. Yeah, exactly.

Drop them out from the batwing in the middle of the ocean. You know, you got a helicopter thing. things happen with helicopters all the time. He gets on there. A nice little go to the beach, maybe. Oh, no, no. Yeah, to step into the helicopter, yeah, we use that trampoline. Go ahead.

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You think it looks dangerous, but actually, it's the best way to get in a helicopter. It's, it trusts me. It works. You have to aim. You have to get the aim right. But once you do, man, it's, it's spiriting. The Joker blows up the hospital. Let's keep going here. It's really good.

The shot of him just walking. And then the whole, The detonator not working is so good. It's so loony tunes. It's so fucking funny. And the way they... Wiley Coyote for sure. Yes.

And the way they heighten it is so funny because when he... He's like fiddling with it and then like a car kind of explodes or something. And he seems like satisfied for a second. He does start walking away. And then he's actually like the biggest explosion is, but the thing just really fucking goes up. And then he starts to run a little bit like, oh fuck, oh fuck. It's so funny. And the explosion is great.

And he escapes in the back of a fucking school bus for the second time in this movie. kidnap Anthony Michael Hall as well he's being forced and the other guy from Weird Science I don't know if you saw that too oh wow Wyatt as well wow I thought they only got Gary okay so no no no Wyatt maybe saving that for Odysseus

or whatever this fucking movie is Odyssey all right Odysseus it's me Wyatt from whatever the fuck you know you saw the movie Hey the Joker would you be possibly be distracted by sexy Miss Lisa over here Hey Junker would you like me to do a certain voice I did in the movie.

Wow, that guy's got problems. Let me get this straight. You're dating your computer. Hold on. Why are you wearing a bra on your head? You can't stop talking like that. That's bad, man. A missile going into your suburban home. You are an agent of chaos like me. These guys know

how to party. Here, here's some guns and some gasoline, kid. Go have some fun. No, I'm telling you, Robert Daddy Jr. They're cool guys. Yeah, Anthony Michael Hall being forced to read another fucking ISIS letter on a fucking video camera. Upside down.

It's like a ham. You cracked it, Eric. That's why he did RDJ is in Oppenheimer. It's not because of all of his Iron Man work. It's because Weird science. He loves, Nolan loves weird science. Absolutely. Gotta just get that last guy in something. That and back to school. Boy. Yeah, Paxton never got to work with him.

That probably would have been. Neither did Rodney Dangerfield. Yeah, oh, man. Or Kurt Vonnegut. Oh, this guy's a real stuffed shirt. I like him, though. It's all right. Oh, we came.

We came Bob Tokyo. I had a honeymoon there. Oh, huh. I was up for the James Rebaugh roll in Oppen Island. Who's crazy? I went to Japan. Found out there were people there. They let me be a general.

Oh, me. general. I get no salutes. Let me clarify. Used to be people there. But yes, the, uh, the,

oh, this is the ferry, we set up the fairy thing. That's what, that's what Anthony Michael Hall is saying that the, oh yeah, yeah, there's a bridge and tunnel crowd are going to have a problem. Yes,

I do love this fucking like, Wall Street bar having to clear out all these fucking, uh, like prime time drunks are running for the door. Just stay at the bar and drink all night. That's your only solution. Yep. Doesn't work for.

this old, that fat old cop that shows out, but he's just like, I'm on my day off. Oh, yeah, the bartender's like, don't you want to do anything about what's going on out there? It's my day off. This guy just died like two weeks ago or something like that. Great old Irish cop actor guy. Big time. And just like,

he's like, I'll go to the bathroom. What do you want to be to shake it for you? And here comes Two-Face. Oh, it's so fucking he is. He is in the fugitive, isn't he? Yes, he is. He's one of the cops in the beginning. And he says, I thought you were dead and Harvey Dent says half. And I love the suit too It's like he's wearing the burned suit

It's not like Because I like that the Nolan stuff It is you know It's grounded, it's real But it is we're still having fun with it It's not so dry That it is like We're having fun with it

Which is why he doesn't get the haircut In the hospital You know what I mean? Because that's a bald head Is not as fun as half of a haircut But he should have like two half dead women That name Sugar and Spife Oh yeah

Yeah too strung out babes Yeah absolutely He burned me too just to make it work, you know, the aesthetic. He wants to know who his other accomplice was, somebody else, and he gives up Ramirez here. Also at this point, Lucius Fox has walked in and found the surveillance system.

Yes. What the fuck? Oh, this ain't more like it, Mr. Wayne. This is the exact opposite of something being more like it. This is less like it. Far away from it, in fact. Oh, that's less like it, Mr. Port. Did you just quit?

I thought I made myself quite clear by saying it's less like it. It is what you want. This is less like it. You ought to be more like it, you understand. The less like it you are, the more I'm quitting. I love it. I love the morality of this, but it's a product of its times because... Patriot act.

Privacy's gone. Oh, yeah. There's someone imaging me right now on the cell phone. Could you imagine if you're... What if our cell phones were used to spy on us? They know everything you're doing right. But I mean, like, that's what the movie's talking about, obviously, the War on Terror. this was very much in the zeitgeist.

Yeah, I mean, he does the whole fucking people deserve their, even if it's a fantasy, they deserve their illusion of it. And that's when Lucius Fox turns off the surveillance. Yeah, because you would just be leaving that fucker on forever. At the end, just type in your name. I might have spelled it wrong, so try a few times. Both names, like, is it a Lucius Fox situation or just Lucius? Your middle name's Jeff, right?

No, no. I will put in Lucius Jeff Fox See the thing was I was thinking of Jeff Fox Well I just got a high score On human rights violations Let me just type in my name

L Fox So yeah Gordon explains to the mayor Like We got to get these prisoners Out of here too And so Like he's not having that

Or whatever But we got to do this So the criminals Are going out on one boat There's civilians going out on the other boat here and then this is where the Joker chimes in with his instructions of what's

going on here and it is this huge morality thing one boat is filled with criminals who we keep saying shit like they had their chance and they made those decisions dude these fucking Gotham pieces of shit on this other boat I'm like sink those fuckers I think there was a line from Jim Gordon just briefly before about how these were

these were two faces these were Harvey Dent's people he put away at one point and we got to get him out of there because the Joker's probably to use them as a pawn and something well here it is he's thought of this too I love this white guy

generic white guy like come on they had their chance oh he's some fucking nimby piece of shit and then this lady this fucking libs of tiptock looking piece of shit lady that's like I have children we should kill them they had their chance

I agree we should kill your children and the great tiny Zeus list are here yes all of them versus Zeus and it's going to be Zeus some of my favorite movies of course yes I do like Liberty Valence is a great film. Friday, another fantastic film.

The performance of Debo. You know, my brother Jonathan and I, yeah, Chris, we would just sit down, get so fucking stone and watch Friday. Also, no holds bar. Oh, totally. Well, Hogan and him just have a throwdown.

Doody. Hey, Jonathan, remember when I dropped my keys and you thought the phone was ringing? yeah that was fucking funny man we were baked out of our minds that night man chris that was a wild night i was like five deep on sausage smoking four bowls at once you're at you're at nine you should be seven jonathan i can't do it's physically impossible for me to go down to a seven it's never going to happen for my next film i'll be putting j chandanescar in because we loved

super troopers as well oh my god laughing at those fuckers drinking syrup that's some funny shit bro. Yes, it was funny shit. Don't you have persons of interest to go create? Right, I'll get down to that right meow. Yeah, I'll do that right meow. Oh, good one. I love that. Oh, yes, yes, and on your way

why don't you ask the drive-thru if they have a liter soda? Yeah, because leader is French for it. Give me my fucking soda, right, Chris, right? That's right. That's right. I'm devilish of you. I love getting stoned in watching big, broad comedy.

You want to stop. Oh, man, you get my brother watching them jackass movies. Then he starts laughing like me. He won't admit to it, but he laughs like me when jackasses eyes. Forget Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. Jonathan and Chris go to White Castle and wipe that place out. Hell yeah. He comes to my house in a three-piece shoot, but sooner or later he's wearing the basketball shorts

and an N-1 T-shirt getting stone. Don't worry about it. The barbecue soft stains on his basketball shirts. You should see these suckers That point of the night The only suit he's concerned about Is a suitcase full of sliders He's got there

Gravecase baby Go Hawks It's so unsettling that they have Different accents It's very weird But yeah so like this is the The very sequence is great I came around to it and I think it's great

And it's all intercut with the action That is going on which is Batman You know going into Video gaming this construction site I'm not crazy about this either it's kind of cool like his eyes going white that stuff's pretty sweet but it is the cops are about to shoot

all the hostages because they're dressed up as the clowns right the guns duct tape to their hands pretty smart move by the Joker I have to say very clever but yes the clowns are the hostages the cops are the clowns however you want to say it the bad guys are the hostage so he has to

knock all these hostages down and then he's got to throw all these cops off the bill and that is so fun it's where it's so video gaming though I feel like I fucking did this shit in like a Spider-Man video game two years ago. It's like, now you got to make sure all these cops don't get hurt, but they got to get out of the way so you can fight the rest of the guy's Spider-Man.

First I got to throw the police officers. Now I'm throwing the dogs. And now I'm trying to throw the Joker. There are three dogs that come at him and one of them is thrown off the platform. I love it. And you see it. It's so far.

But meanwhile, Tiny Zeus Lister does take the device that the because they both have a detonator one can somebody has to blow one has to blow each other up for the other one to survive before midnight right tennies de solicitor has a great line of like i'm gonna do what you should have done you don't want to die but you don't know how to take a life give it to me yeah i'll do what you should have done 10 minutes ago and you think oh no here comes this big bad criminal and he throws it out the window

the way he just sort of gingerly chucks it out this window is so funny and all these cops are just like well this dude could pummel me so i'm not gonna be like hey what the fuck but hey what the fuck and the time elapses and like what bad men tells the joker like there's good people they're good people not everybody's as ugly as you hey i was considered a heart throbbing my day i don't want these scars you know you sound stupid when you talk like that like i'll tell you how i got him but i'm not saying i wanted But this is the great And here we go

And just watching the Joker Watch his plan not come to fruition It's awesome And it is a great I mean it's a morality moment You know what I mean again I think you were saying this Via tax Andrew

It does play interestingly now You know what I mean Like actually criminals do deserve due process It shouldn't just be summarily executed On a boat You know what I mean Wow Wrong

Fun that's fun look at this boat exploding that I'm saying is narco-terrorism and here we go but this is where Batman goes you know like what were you trying to prove

that everyone was exactly like you and dude the Joker's got nothing for that ouch that mister boat was dealing drugs uh-huh there's the scars reprisal again

I know how I got these scars which is the cat it's a it's almost like a Speaking of which, you want to know how I got these scars real quick. And then Batman just fucking. He said, no, I know. But I know how you got these and he shoots. Oh, yes.

Yeah. Yeah, the little wrist things or whatever. It's so awesome. He shucks him off a building like he's a fucking dog, honestly. I'm going to throw you off this like a dog I hate. Like a dog. But he saves him, obviously. And this is the, oh, we're going to be doing this for years and years.

Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You're just too much fun. You and I are destined to be together forever. And you're just like, you're going to be a pad itself forever.

Maybe we could share one. It is great because the way we can share it was like, the way they'll be doubling up the way people are losing their minds. I have an ace in the hole. The mine's Harvey. He's about to shoot a baby. Took Gotham's White Knight and brought him down to our level.

That's such a good line. Madness is like gravity. Like, you know, all you need is one little push. I do, and we, Harvey has been, he kidnaps the Gordons by using Ramirez. Yes. Because she, he's like, and it's kind of this great moment of just like, oh, Ramirez feels bad about this situation. She's like, oh, Barbara, get out of the house. Like, but the cops are he?

He's like, okay, trust those cops. He's like, yeah. Why does you do it? She trusts you. And she's like, yeah. And it's like, he flips the coin. She doesn't get killed. He does punch her in the face, though.

Yeah, just really decks this woman, huh? Live to fight another day, officer. where my family died yeah where my family died so this is the final scene of the movie this big standoff with Dent and Gordon you know

gets got immediately he's like there's my family and Harvey Dent tackles him it's a great bit of Gary Oldman acting here because he is both terrified sad trippily terrified sad and scared

and also annoyed annoyance is definitely part of it I'm so sorry oh boy I'm sorry yelling that he's sorry he's pissed when he says it well that's because he has to convince him a little bit

he has to put the gun directly in the kid's face to be like okay now I'm really sorry now I'm serious I'm really sorry and you know the third time I would have appreciated some sort of ninja whoosh sound here's about

you don't want to hurt the boy Harvey where were you Batman Oh, hello. This is when he decides to use his coin. He uses it first on Batman, and he shoots him. Batman gets shot right in the fucking, right in the gut, flips it again. Again, second time a villain is about to kill himself. He puts his gun to his own.

It's out for me, which is kind of great. I'm going to give him a shot. Fair is fair. Yeah. He luckily gets, you know, he doesn't have to kill himself. That's right. It's time for the boy, and Batman just chucks this dude on yet another. villain getting chucked off a building. Along with

the boy. Yes, that's true. He goes to go after and hang on to him there. Yes. But then he fucking falls too. But yeah, you know, saves the day. Batman tackles him off here and then Batman falling down. I'm like, all right. I've actually always, again,

and this has nothing to do with like him getting killed in the movie, but I always thought this wasn't as high as it should have been. I agree with that. That I agree with because it does like, I remember even seeing in the theater, I thought, like, oh, he's still alive. And then, oh, maybe the, oh, weird. I need to see the fall then.

I need to see a head crutch. He hits his head on a rock or something. There's not enough. You need that like extra. Again, the violence thing. It's just an extra push of violence. You have to infer it. Oh, I guess he's dead.

Yeah. It's an oh, I guess he's dead as opposed to two faces dead. And then you just see like the memorial photo of Harvey. That's sort of how you get it during this montage. It doesn't help that fucking Batman gets a, but just needs like a little Ben gay tonight. The disparity is weird But it's just

This whole, you know Conversation's really great He's like, you know We can't let the Joker win You know We gotta blame everything on me They can't go on Harvey Because Harvey is the one

Like he's got to just Be dead And you can say I killed him And it's totally fine Because you are the best of us Right That's a good one Yeah

And like I said bad And there's gonna be When the details of the divorce Come out it's really going to be you're going to have some weight pulled off you just a little bit i don't think that this is getting jim gordon back in the house this kidnapping fiasco no no that's hey uh batman um before you go and i don't see you for several years as the next movie tells us can i get those keys to that apartment i don't remember the third movie i feel like there's no

mrs gordon in that one i don't recall either way all i remember is kid is going to resent him too During this whole thing, it's like, well, we'll have to chase him. But he didn't do anything wrong. The fucking kid knows what the barrel of a gun tastes like. So now there's a problem there. I do love that. Ending the movie on a Gary Oldman monologue is a great idea. Precisely.

And ending it in a way, like you also, you just get this montage while he's talking of all the little ways we're wrapping things up, you know, whatever Gotham needs me to be. And then Gary Elman goes through all this stuff. you see oldman himself taking an axe to the the bat signal which i feel is a bit extreme yeah you could have just taken that batman thing off and he's still got a perfectly functioning spotlight that's for the gotham gazette that's for that's photo up yeah yeah right Alfred burns the letter and he's got to appease the PBA too we're gonna chase him because he can take it you know yep exactly he's a silent guardian a watchful protector a dark night if you will Dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Batman's the last line-in movie. And it's cool. Both of these movies do have that needle drop, like, ending. Like, it's Batman begins.

I just feel like too many movies borrow from that. I want an opening credit sometimes. You know what I mean? Oh, sure. Very often movies are just like, oh, the last, we're going to say what the movie is at the end. Like, it doesn't always work. No, it doesn't.

But it does here. It's really great. And yet the funny thing is Batman running away from the construction site to get back to wherever he parked his motor site. And it is just the funniest Batman running in the entire movie. It's really good. But that's the end of the movie. That's where they leave it.

I'm really kind of tempted to check out Rises. It's been so long. Yeah, I want to go back to it. It's too many balls in the air. It's a very flawed movie with a lot of great moments. Yes, I kind of remember being that way. But, you know, we'll get to that at some point. But that is going to do it for this episode here discussing the Dark Night.

We'll go around the horn for some final thoughts, Mr. Siska. oh it's very good it's you know like i haven't seen it in a while and i forgot how good it is i mean i also still really like batman begins previous episode oh yeah i mean we've been talking for a while i've been singing its praises you know where i land i i like this movie yeah chris cabin no it's it's a really good movie i had watched it relatively recently because whenever uh when up heimer came out i had done a rewatch of most of his stuff oh wow uh and so i had gone through i I think I re-watched everything

but Memento and Enzomnia. And I just I have come to I still have a really hard time with Dunkirk because of the violence. Yeah. It's just it doesn't, there's something off about that. And

but other than that, Tennant, I love Tenet. I love Oppenheimer and I'm really looking forward to this Odyssey movie. But this, it all starts here. This is the thing like he, after this he gets to do it every let you make this fucking movie. And the thing that it became.

I mean, that includes everything, including what we're not going to talk about, is the shooting and all those things. Oh, sure, yeah. That it is a, this thing took over the world for a while. It was a cultural moment for a long time. Ways that you can't even fathom. So I, and it was, it gave him this career that now he's making, I think, real actual masterpieces. And this is just a very good movie to me. There you go.

Steve Saneck. Yeah, I mean, you sometimes need to look past the boardwalk t-shirt. You know what I mean? Look at it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or wonder why it is a boardwalk t-shirt. The Loonitudes are a boardwalk t-shirt. Why?

Because they're classic. You know, this is a classic movie now. It is one of the biggest things that's ever happened in movies. You know, it was the first superhero movie to make a billion dollars. All this shit. Like, the cultural impact is enormous. And it's a great Batman movie. I feel like, you know, it gets maligned by some purists Batman-wise.

Or is it Batman-y enough? Or it's a Nolan movie and blah, blah, blah. No, I think it's got the, it's a very specific vision of Batman. But I do think it's not one of these things where it's embarrassed of the source material. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I think that's a strength of it. It leans into it like the two-facedness.

It's a very good rendition of toothface. It's a great rendition of Joker. Alfred, go on down the line. These are really fantastic interpretations of these classic characters. In a story with stakes that has a beginning, a middle, and an end, and we're not saving anything for the sequel. There can be a sequel. There can not be a sequel. There also could have not been a previous movie, by the way.

You know what I mean? It's its own thing. This could stand on its own. And I think that that's a real triumph for this movie, for a second movie. following them a great movie so there you go yeah totally I'm not gonna say anything different

it's great you know I like Nolan movies whatever it's awesome I think this is the best the best of that trilogy even though I do think begins is really fantastic

and may have even said at the time that I think begins is the best of these but that was because it had been six or seven years since I'd seen this again and it's this it's this over and over again

really like it but that is going to do it for this episode but we love movies month is just getting underway so much content absolutely You can go to our Patreon and hear episodes like this ad-free, by the way, over at patreon.com slash we hate movies, where every Tuesday, yes, these kinds of episodes are released and they are given without commercials. Also, at this point, we have put out, let's see, what have we put out?

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is. But after that Thursday, we've got a really rocking full-length animation damnation coming out. On Beavis and Butto America. Super fun conversation about Mike Judge's masterpiece, I think. Hell yeah. Yeah, that was super fun. And then

Friday, we are going back to SoCal, Chris Cabin, for Melro of 210, we're doing a baby. We are finally seeing the end of Donna graduate. Donna Martin graduates. Donna Martin graduates.

Et cetera. And, you know, we get past that very annoying episode and we go to Melrose's place where things are chaotic as they should be. The baby is still in play. The baby's still in play. Somebody gets left hanging. We'll get to that.

I'd rather live in fucking Gotham city rather than Melrose place. Absolutely. Less crazy people. And later this month, of course, we are just offering some awesome stuff on this We Love Movies Month. Mr. Siska, we're doing something very cool with the Gleep Glossary.

Yes, we did a live Gleap Glossary in England on Darth Vader. We're going to be releasing that for not only patrons, but also for everyone listening on the free main podcast feed. Give them a little taste. Yes. And then we'll also do a little short one on a blaster

rifle, which would be very weird. And that's patrons only that guy. That's right. Also later this month we have undiscovered country. The Star Trek 6 motion picture is going to be the nexus. Oh, very excited about that. We laid that down already. I proclaimed it's my favorite Star Trek movie. Love that shit. But right here, the Tuesday shows

Roll on. We Love Movies Month still has a couple weeks left to go. Something very cool coming out next week, Steve Sadeg. Well, speaking to going to England, we went to England and we did a live episode on Clive Barker's Excellent Hellraiser. This is maybe my favorite live show we've ever done. It's a wild one. It's a wild

that show. Some people get worried about audio quality. The audio came out great. So check it out. They had some real pros at that residency. Don't skip. It's going to sound like this, basically. That's right. So until next week, when we've got such delicious sights to show you, I've been Andrew Jubin. Stephen Sederate.

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