We Hate Movies - S16 Ep834: Just Friends (2005)
Episode Date: December 2, 2025“I had people in my life telling me this was a funny movie…” - Steve On this week’s show, we’re getting into our month of holiday programming with a chat about the totally dated Christmas ...comedy, Just Friends! How annoying is it that this movie barely cares about being set at Christmas? Why couldn’t we get just a little more for the incredible Julie Hagerty to do in the movie? How abhorrent is the entire idea of the “Friend Zone” in the first place? Is this one of the biggest public humiliations at a movie’s house party? And why is Ryan Reynolds doing a Cartman voice when he’s in that abysmal fat suit the production borrowed from the Friends archive? PLUS: A Jared from Subway reference in this film that Chris accurately describes as “completely destabilizing”! Just Friends stars Ryan Reynolds, Amy Smart, Anna Paris, Chris Klein, Christopher Rodriguez Marquette, Fred Ewanuick, Amy Matysio, and Julie Hagerty as Carol Brander; directed by Roger Kumble. This week’s episode is brought to you in part by Sonos. Discover how easy it is to bring every room to life with incredible sound. Explore Sonos speakers, soundbars, and more at sonos.com! Also by Rocket Money. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney dot com slash WHM today. That’s RocketMoney dot com slash WHM. RocketMoney dot com slash WHM! And by Uncommon Goods! To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMON GOODS dot com slash whm. That’s UNCOMMON GOODS dot com slash whm, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited-time offer. Uncommon Goods. They’re all out of the ordinary. Be sure to snag your tickets to see our 15th Anniversary show at the Bell House in Brooklyn this Saturday, December 6! We’re celebrating the better part of two decades on the air while talking about the fantastic Arnold sci-fi action adventure, Total Recall! Click through to get your tix now, it’s close to selling out! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.
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Ryan Reynolds in a fat suit trying to woo Amy Smart.
We're talking just friends. Enjoy the show, y'all.
Cool, man.
Woo-hoo!
This week on the program, you know, after finally seeing this movie,
I would have thought that fat suit got a little more play.
We're talking just friends.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
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go. There you go. Chris Gavin. Hi. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies.
that's right. It is December, which means
we are getting into some holiday-themed programming
talking about 2005's
Just Friends directed by
Roger Cumbull.
Cumball? Cumball. Cumbull.
Cumbull. Cumbull,
without the R.
How is that where you got a lot of drive first and then you roll
it up? Yeah.
Instead of a snowball, you understand.
Oh. Yeah. But this is
when I watched this the other night, I was like,
I've seen this guy's name somewhere.
You sure have to.
Cruel intentions.
Oh, wow.
Absolutely.
They let him back.
Cruel intention.
Check out this filmography.
Cruel intentions.
Better movie.
Cruel intentions, too.
Probably better movie
because it's nudity in that.
Probably smart.
Yeah, yeah.
The sweetest thing.
Not familiar.
That is Cameron Diaz,
Christina Applegate,
Selma Blair going on a road trip.
People tell you that's a fun movie.
They can keep saying that.
Dude, I remember the trailer for that movie.
They tease some sexy girl-on-girl action.
Oh, wow.
Welcome to the early on.
It's all fake, though.
Come ball.
Then you got this movie comes, and then college road trip with Martin Lawrence and Raven
Simone.
Oh, no.
And then he's done some other, like, present day Netflix things that are garbage.
He's done a lot of television, but his last, like, movie that hit a theater screen was,
I believe it was 2011 Brendan Fraser's Furry Vengeance.
Oh, nice.
This dude directed the forest animals protesting deforestation movie.
Was that the movie that we stopped with Brendan Frazier then?
Yes, for a long time.
I think that was one of the final, you know what?
We'll put this in a theater and see what happens.
And then they saw what happens.
I had a stomach virus and I watched that movie.
Furry vengeance?
Yeah, sure did.
Did it make it worse?
Yes.
So then your tummy really started.
It's about he becomes a furry as a sexual revenge against his girlfriend.
If it was about a movie where like a furry is going around getting revenge on someone that killed his wife, sure.
This movie is about he's a real estate developer and animals themselves are protesting getting their forest taking down.
Walking tall as a furry, now we're talking.
That's much better.
Than Dr. Doolittle but a lawyer.
Yeah, I'm a big old raccoon.
I'm going to fucking kill you.
You killed my raccoon wife.
My bat's sticky.
Yeah, you ever see a raccoon pick up a big two by four?
Well, you are right now.
Yeah, so this movie is a movie that I didn't see in its entirety until yesterday, and this was a movie.
I did remember, so this came out Thanksgiving of 2005, so I was back at the multiplex projecting off of time at purchase.
And I never saw it.
I projected it a bunch of times, and you had to, of course, clean the theater over credits, right?
So I remember him in the fat suit, dead-eyed, staring at it.
at the camera singing the all for one
song as I'm sweeping up
popcorn alone. Oh, man, terrifying
stuff. This is a movie at
the time, I don't know if anybody else had this.
I had people in my life telling me this is
a funny fucking movie. Really?
Quoting this movie. Do you still talk to these people?
I believe, yes, I do.
But, you know, I'm going to put it on
blast. I'm sure we've all grown out of it. You should call
them up, though. Dude, call them right now.
Hey, I'm still feeling about just friends.
Who is this?
Let's get them on the line. I mean, this really does.
for me recalibrate a lot
of my feelings on Ryan
because like for a while I'm there
I'm like back in the day
I had to laugh at Ryan Reynolds occasionally
Of course you did everybody did
I wasn't into him
That's the thing is I look back at this
Because I didn't see some theaters either
This was I think just like maybe five 10 years ago
It was on TV and I watched it
Where it belongs
Exactly and I'm like
I'm watching this yesterday
I'm like thank God for Deadpool
I'm like
funnel this into something
and maybe it works, but this free form, Ryan Reynolds, no thank you.
You can see what was going on here a little bit in the car scene specific.
So when he bottoms out on like the first date with her and then he goes and sits in the car
and freaks out about all the stupid shit that he said, he is gym carrying like nobody's
business in that moment.
And that's when I realized I was like, oh no, had it not been for Deadpool, the mission to
become Canada's next Jim Carrey and indeed Hollywood's.
next Jim Carrey would have been
his line of sight for who knows how
he tried it for years and years and it bombed out
and then like I mean like Deadpool was almost
like a last gasp because you did
that stupid Wolverine movie and it was like
oh this is your big chance everybody loves Deadpool
and it was horrible and then like
for years like no you got to give him the right
chance and they gave him the right chance
you gotta let him talk it's a miracle they gave him that
chance I agree but it worked out
for Deadpool here not so much
but you do see that
you see what would become dead
Like they're looking at the screen
It had to be channeled though
You can't
This allowing this to just go
He's not Jim Carrey
Jim Carrey can just go
This guy can't
Jim Carrey could do this movie
In his fucking sleep
Oh it'd be so easy
It's not even
It's rude to say
Ryan Reynolds period
But the character here
And I think his character
As an early Ryan Reynolds
His comedic persona
Was very unlikable
It was very smarmy
It was a good looking
But smarmy
Kind of like the Dane Cook School of kind of.
Yes. Yes. No. And like
that was so much the point. That was
I mean, he wasn't so much of a scumbag.
But I mean, even him back playing
Bird on two guys a girl in a pizza place, he
was kind of the jerk of the two
guys. Yeah. And that, you know,
you see that. I mean, that's the Van Wilder
character in a total nutshell.
I'm going to talk real slow to you because you're
so fucking stupid.
Which in itself is you can
kind of hear Jim Carrey.
It sure is. You know, it's all
just right there, you know.
And even in, um, he sort of is just doing Van Wilder
finally graduated in Harold and Kumar when he's the doctor for two seconds.
Oh, yeah.
And even that, I remember it was like in the trailer,
he like pulls the mask down and like says a line.
And I'm not going to shit talk that because that,
him getting behind that movie is the only reason that movie got made.
He was very much like,
you should do this and I'll be in it so you can like put my face in it
so people might come to the movie.
Steve, you hate him more now?
not a big Harold and Kumar fan
but that's fine. I love
that movie. First one's
totally great. I can't speak on
the sequels. I didn't like the second movie
and I didn't see the Christmas movie. But that
first movie, as far as Dude Stone
driving around Jersey looking for food, I still think
is very funny. Thumbs up.
But yeah, this, I mean, this is him
in, it's also like, can we make him work
in a Christmas situation where it's like
there's no way
this. Yeah, Christmas
time. But there's no way a character
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, this is supposed to be kind of like a Scrooge.
He's a rich guy comes around to see the value in like, you know, solid relationships and this,
not the other thing.
But like, I don't believe for two seconds that this guy changed anyway.
All of that's missing.
And that's what the problem with the-
There's no heart.
There's literally no heart to this movie.
Yeah.
We'd start where you want every single movie to start.
New Jersey in 1995.
You would want that.
I do feel like this was, it was one of those scripts that probably was written before 9-11 and
you should have at that point just burnt it
because like after that
like I am watching this movie what do you want
like the the neighborhood
dad did die in 9-11
that no
because it's this tone of comedy
was happening all
the time right before 9-11
and it's still petered for a little bit after
it but by like 2006
2007 we were steering out of it
but it was yeah this is agro
maxim mail magazine
man comedy.
Why this movie is the way it is to me, at least,
is that we were stuck on the word
and it was a national sensation.
Metrosexual? No.
Friend Zone. Yes.
The Friend Zone thing. I feel like
that was 99, 2000, and
that was the core of this movie.
And then, like,
9-11 happens.
Friend Zone is no longer the great national emergency
it was fucking a couple years ago.
I got a problem with your history here, dude.
I don't know. I thought the word
you were going to say would be the R word or the F
that ends in the T.
Oh, I mean, those are all part,
I mean, like, that is part of the comedy
of this era, right?
I mean, I mean, this is, this feels so solidified
2005. Yes, I agree.
No, yeah, it does. This feels so of its time.
It's Bush era. I think what you mean. I think
that's what you mean. Because I think that's what
the problem with your history is, I think
that went on until like 8, 9, 10.
Then we were sort of getting out of the, like,
that first manosphere,
Spike TV horse shit
And then we kind of got out of it a little bit
And then we obviously went back to something else
I think the move
Much darker
From a research perspective
Would be to see what
Like big box comedies
Such as they were
Looked like in 2010
Yeah exactly
And I'm trying to think like
Was Dayton Cook still making movies
That's your appetow thing
Which is a bit of a softer
gentler kind of world
And that is 2006
That's Wedding Crashers
That's
Wedding Crashers feels like the last
breath of that stuff. That was the
same year as this. I think Wedding Crashers
was also 05. Yeah, I want to say
knocked up as like 08 maybe
Oh, you're right. Knocked up is 07. 40 year old
Virge is 2005. You're out of 2004.
You're right. Yeah. You also though, let's not
forget, speaking of Amy Smart
being in this movie, of course. Amy Smart
is also the pined
after lady friend in road trip
2000-ish.
Or no.
2001? Or 90s? Something like that.
2000, 2000.
She's also the monkey's paw digit in the movie Butterfly effect
that keeps getting fucked with it every time.
Oh, right, yes.
She just, her life keeps being horrible.
Yes.
2000 road trip.
Road trip is 2000.
Wedding Crashers is 05.
And then also in their old school.
So yeah, the road trip to old school, those Todd movies, man.
Yes, yeah, exactly.
Right in there also.
That leads to your wedding crash.
But old school does not feel nasty like this does.
I agree.
I remember liking old school.
school, and I think I might still have that opinion.
Luke Wilson is called
the Fsler in the first 12
seconds of them. That's a
nastier movie, I'd bet. I haven't seen it in a while.
It's a nasty movie. Word-wise,
it's still using all those words, it's all that, and I hate
that shit. But it's the
core of the movie being so, like,
like this piece of shit. You are going
to love this piece of shit because he
was friend-zoned. And that is the great
fucking national disaster of our time.
It's men who fucking love these women
being friend-zoned and not fucking
fucked every time.
They deserve it.
You gotta fuck them.
They put the time in you.
They deserve it.
I mean, you could argue it.
This is returned, Chris, right?
Like, isn't, like, aren't all of our intellectuals,
like Jordan Peterson saying that we need to have, like,
government-issued girlfriend?
Oh, yeah.
But they're not making comedies anymore.
Like, that's a difference, I think.
Because you're my government-issued girlfriend.
You'll be with me till the end.
or until I don't pay my government girlfriend fees
and the government takes you away from me.
Darren did that.
Jerome Peterson's crazy.
Chad GPT was invented.
They made your girlfriend.
That's what you're supposed to do.
Now all these sex chats are telling him to kill themselves.
Those ladies got the right idea.
The weird thing about this movie is that he doesn't,
because the friend zoned epidemic or problem or thing that we thought about problem
epidemic.
It's just guys with no game.
Exactly.
And it's a matter of, as the guy with no game, realizing, oh, you know, this woman wants to be a friend with, be my literal friend, I can accept that on those terms, or I can end my association in a nice way and be like, ah, you know, I'm going to blah, blah, blah.
But it's this idea that, like, there's a malicious intent on the other half of that is the issue.
You know what I mean?
This is a weird case, though, because he is turned this way, not only.
due to a lady, but due to a massive public humiliation, like a carry-sized level of public
humiliation.
He starts out fat, which is always funny, a fat suit, of course, it's hilarious.
Fat suit, you got your Norbit, you've got your, we were very big and I was fat in high
school, and now I'm sexy friends is all that shit.
Oh, dude, yeah, Courtney Cox, I think Ryan Reynolds rented the fucking fat suit from Courtney
Cox.
Okay, so it would have had to have been nutty professor that allowed this to happen to
the nation, right? Because this was
happening, like shallow
I think about shallow how and my whole fucking
body starts. I saw that movie in theaters.
We gotta do that one. Oh, definitely have to do that way.
And it's just, it's, it's, that's
the nastiness here. And also,
Ryan Reynolds is doing a Cartman voice when he has a fat
suit on. He sure is. Amazing. I'm kind of
fat. I mean, expect him to get a cheesy
poof. It's disgusting. It didn't happen when I was like, this kid's
talking about cheesy poop. The whole thing of like,
oh, I got friends zoned in high school. I was fat. I was
unpopular. This
this event happens to me.
He goes and moves LA
becomes fit, has a
high paying job, is
enamored with multiple women.
Why do you need revenge
on your high school people?
It's a weird, I think. Aren't you
already, like, can't you consider yourself
having a win already? It's at least
and I'm not like defending this
character, but I do appreciate that it's
the, no, listen,
it's the landing in
the hometown. Yeah. That
inspires it and it's not like
he's just been like he doesn't have
a dartboard of Jamie Smart's
Amy character in his awesome
LA Hollywood Hills house
that he's throwing fucking knives at
he does go to his buddy who's just like
oh I'm gonna go out of date and go to dayday
you get friend zone you're right
it's the fucking worst thing I've ever happened to you
you're fucking friend zone you're right you're right I did forget
about that part no but it's it's like it's
the problem is that I think you're right
is that he doesn't learn
that lesson it's not a lesson that is learned is like
oh I should have just given up high
or like no the lesson is
persistence throughout decades to quote
a great philosopher of our time
Stephen Urkel
I'm wearing her down
I mean if a girl doesn't like you
or a man or whatever doesn't like you
within the first
like five minutes it's done yeah
well no there has to be a chemistry
they have the answer at the end of this movie
nothing nothing of what happens
to the movie lends itself to this
yeah but the answer is right there
put yourself out there
see what happens if you get rejected you get rejected you get rejected and you get over it that is what you're supposed to do there's a lot there's what 50 51% of the population yeah that sounds right that's a lot of people yeah yeah that's a lot of people you could get rejected you have literally thousands of soulmates out there but literally all over there yes I know it's a cliche or the fish in the sea or whatever but hey cliche some cliches are correct you know put you there's a lot of fish in the sea and there's a lot of seamen and uh that are pursuing those fish it's true which is um
You think about Avatar again?
How we make Gordon's fish sticks.
Yeah, I knew we get to something.
I don't know.
He's a big old fat kid.
Sure is.
Been there.
And this is, and this is like, again, this is all on the guy.
You don't do stuff like this.
Don't do things you saw in a movie.
Such as this.
You are marking up this poor girl's yearbook with this long fecocta fucking I've been so into you for this entire 10 years we've been friends.
Like, you got to look at this man.
she jumps onto her bed with you she's rolling all over the place has no concern whatsoever for like oh he's going to see it my skirt like have the awareness that she clearly doesn't see you like this she playfully bites his thigh this lady doesn't want to date you sir well i mean at and but i mean i i can say that you can say all this i certainly remember back to the time of being this age and not yeah like you don't think like that you're just like i just need this this is the thing that works and i need more of this i never wrote a one of nine
page manifesto
about why it's a great idea to date me.
Well, that is true. It's, you know, young people
they build up stuff in their head
and you pine for something forever and you
think that's... Fantasy life is easy
to get, you just buy
into. And I think that's the issue too, though.
It's never in the movie kind of
clarified like, this is what young men
do. They're silly. They need to
grow out of this thing and just find...
He doesn't have like healthy relationships or
and also like his self, like
who he is, is very
unknown because like is he the guy
that likes watching Party of Five and
like being like goofy
and fun or is he this nightmare
shark person that likes to love him and leave him
and like has all these rules like is there
a person in there no that worth knowing
I think that's a question you can literally
ask of every character Ryan Reynolds has ever played
is there a person in there yeah I would argue
most times there's not probably not I mean
there's like no offense to him as a guy
I don't know him or anything but just
characters he plays in this persona
there's not a person behind
those eyes no and when
he's doing this man
I even I had
you know I had plenty of friends who were girls
back in the day who were just friends
none of them actually my best
friend in high school was a girl
and I didn't have a fucking
part of my wall
dedicated to our
friendship and my sketches
of her the wish board that we have
here whatever's going on
Isn't she coming over your house for sleepovers and shit, did you think?
Well, that's weird.
I mean, the whole movie, it's like he's really aggressive with this obsession.
But the moral at the end is she was wrong.
Yes, exactly.
She was wrong this whole time, actually.
You dumb girl.
Come on now.
We do get the first of many gay slurs in the first like six minutes.
This little kid, he's right.
And I think he's singing, I swear at this point maybe.
All for ones I swear, absolutely.
You better like that song.
There's a couple times.
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There's a couple of jokes where you fucking better like it because that's it.
That's what we got.
That's all I got today.
I should say as we start getting into this a little further, I'm, you know, I'm not made of stone.
There were a few moments in this movie where I had quite hearty laughs.
I had a couple legitimate laughs.
I thought you're going to say you cried at the end.
No, for once I wasn't fucking pathetically crying at a movie that I had no business crying at.
I hate the character, but Anna Ferris is really fucking funny in this.
I thought she's really working a character.
It's just as she has been plucked from a completely different movie.
possibly one directed by a
Farrelly brother.
She is always pretty funny. Yeah, she's great.
The little brother comes in. He's like, raise
your hand if your brother's a homo.
And like, it's supposed
you in the audience are supposed
to laugh with the, it's not like, oh, that little
kids being stupid. Can I
can I ponder
or throw out a guess here?
They looked at the script.
And when you watch
the movie now, yeah, there's a lot of homo,
there's a lot of gay, a lot of that
One or two F-bombs too.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I would not be surprised if they had to go back and look and like every time in this movie you hear homo or you hear gay, it was the F-sler every single time.
And then they were like, listen, man, you got like the F-sler like 15 times in this movie.
This is reading like a manifesto.
Exactly.
And it's like, oh, this one about Jared from Subway, let's turn that into the R word.
That is, dude, incredible now.
That was quite...
I never knew people thought of Jern from Subway that way.
I was going to say...
It was an art word.
My god, that was kind of just shocking
because of what's happening.
I mean, that was completely destabilized.
I watched it and I'm like, what?
Yeah, so you gotta hand it to this movie for that.
Because it's like...
It's like being punched in the face by Mike Tyson twice in two seconds.
Yeah.
Because the slur happens, you get punched in the face
being like, oh, that.
And then from Subway, and you realize they're talking about that
And did you punch in the fucking other side of the head?
I guess the idea is they knew at the time something was off.
You know?
And you're saying at the time.
Like, so Jamie's father says, oh, hey, Chris, how'd you lose all that weight?
Did you do it like that R word, Jared from Subway?
Good God.
It's brutal.
By the way, does anybody know, what's the date on when Jared from Subway went down?
That's right 9, 10, maybe even 11.
But later.
We've, it was known by like, oh, seven, I think, in the company.
But as the, at the time we're making this movie, the chicken hadn't come home to Roost yet.
No, it had not.
No, I had not.
I see.
So he's going to go, uh, Jamie, and this kind of sucks for him.
Jamie, is friends Jamie, am I right?
Amy Smart's name is Jamie.
Uh, Jamie has thrown a small party for them and their two other friends.
Jeez, this is.
And it's like, oh, cool.
And like, you can tell them they were probably like the outsider kids.
We can go and, you know, just have some drinks.
and he's going to tell her how he feels.
He's got to pull her aside from this four-person party,
which is a totally reasonable thing to do.
But unfortunately, it turns into a can't-hardly wait scenario when he gets there.
You would turn around immediately.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Jamie, sorry, I couldn't make it to the graduation party last night.
Horrible diarrhea.
I can tell you that because we're best friends.
And clearly he is not just like the fat kid.
He is the very unpopular fat kid.
The kid that is being teased is my guess.
But at the same time, I did find it interesting that when he gets to the party,
it's not a what's he doing here like at least it was everybody was fine like they do make fun of him later of course and there's like the tim the jock who really humiliates him but i was expecting another slur to be through who invited the you know or whatever yeah exactly that at least doesn't happen there are certain character actors when i say
Jared update real quick oh nice apparently there was allegations of inappropriate relations with minors that began in 2007 but it didn't gain traction and he
He didn't get arrested until 2015.
Chris, you were totally right on that timeline.
I'm going to give you.
Credit where credits two timeline was.
That's amazing.
You nailed that right there's a, I'm sorry.
There's a very, very good episode of Truanon where they go through the whole fucking
fucking sorted.
So I had recently heard it.
And like, but I, I was like, because I didn't know Subways existed until like 2009 or something.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You were alive.
That's impossible.
I just didn't.
Well, okay.
Chris, I guarantee you.
Have you seen a TV commercial?
We definitely, like, you were aware of Subways in our town.
We had Mr. Sub.
That was the big thing at our.
That was the one I went to.
Mr. Sub was the loser local chain.
I know.
I went to it.
That's where the just friends, couples would go.
You know what?
Mr. Sub was eating pretty good at 2015, though, that's for sure.
You know what?
Nobody might buy our sandwiches, but at least I'm not a child rapist.
Thank you very much.
Hey, come on down to Mr. Sub.
Your kids are welcome here.
They're quite safe.
Oh, you're fat again.
like that R word, Mr. Sub.
I'm just saying it was like one in like the mall food court.
Like I'm sure you were aware of some way.
But I did not, okay, I did not know of it as like the great thing that everybody knows about that is like taking over the country quickly.
Maybe.
But I'm just saying like in 2009 when you were out of college for four years, you were aware of somewhere.
We were living with me near a subway.
We'd already had the fight in Williamsburg over when they opened the summer.
subway on Bedford Avenue. You were 100%
aware of subway. Okay. Speaking
of timelines. So there
are certain character actors who I see
and I'm like, oh, this movie was made in Canada.
Oh boy, is this maybe
the big bully here, the dude with
Oh, Tim, yeah, who's this guy? He's
in Battleston. I was going to say Mechanic
Number 3 on Battlestar. Kind of sort
of like he's like one of the
military dudes who like, he kind of keeps
popping up, but he's also the big fat
security guard in X2
who Rebecca Remain
Too much iron in your blood
Yes, oh shit, really?
That guy is just all over Canada
I don't know.
Hell yeah.
So there you go.
That's awesome.
The second I saw it was like,
this wasn't New Jersey
and sure enough, Saskatchewan.
Well, Ryan Reynolds doesn't like
traveling too far from home back in those ways.
That's where you get those big old snow banks from.
Absolutely, yeah, he was a Vancouver guy.
Yeah.
So he gets there, like, this guy's got,
everyone's kind of, he means,
is it Clark and Darla or is the two like real
friends and they're like a couple
Clark who I kept thinking
was some guy and he's just not
anybody. He's just not no. Nope.
I like these
these characters need to be part of
the movie I think. They really do and not
just like the multiple times Ryan Reynolds
has to go to the dentist in this movie.
Yeah. That's Clark's a dentist but
he needs to be like if there's any
heart in the movie which there should be he should be the one like
but you love her right man and he goes wow
I do love her or whatever.
Something like that. Oh well but that would take away from
Ryan Reynolds time and we we need quite a lot of that but they're like yeah sorry her parents
decided to throw her surprise party now everyone's here it sucks but they're like tonight's tonight right
you're gonna tell her you got if you're his if you are his friend you got to be like dude
probably don't tell her you know what I mean or probably or just like nope or make it easier
don't do the letter thing just talk to her you know why don't you just talk to her talk to her
oh wayne's world reference I love it always doing it um yeah
No, it's a bad idea.
And I have to say, folks, if you're out there and you got some friend who's
writing a big letter, there's got to be a better way to do it.
And you have to tell your friend that immediately because this, it could be a life-altering embarrassment.
Because they're cheering them on.
Like, do it, dude.
Do it.
Well, because you're fucking tired of hearing about it.
Well, that could be true.
Every time we go to the mall, every time we go to the library, he's just talking about it.
This is Jamie's favorite book.
It's okay.
And that would actually be, it's like ripping the bandaid right off.
Just tell her, get it over with it.
Exactly.
And if she rejects you, you can move on with your fucking life.
That's perfect.
Who cares?
Go have bad sex in college and figure it out.
Exactly.
So she immediately, like, sees him across the room and runs over and, like, runs upstairs, has him
by the hand, like, oh, we got to go up to my room.
And I'm like, again, buddy.
Yeah, the vibe.
If this is how you're greeted.
The vibes are off.
Like, she's greeting you like one of the gals.
She's not going to jerk you off in her parents' house.
Like, it's just not going to happen.
I'm sorry.
so she goes up there and it's like he's trying to do it and then like drunk tim walks in he's like oh you want to fuck me baby because also that is the thing here it's 10 years in the past these actors are already in their 30s yeah so you got this guy tim man i gotta say when you see him in present day and he's like a bald loser i was like not much of a makeup job on this guy they spent they got this fucking ball cap from the garbage yeah this thing was they fucking they were scorching it up they were rubbing it against the road they did everything to the
make this thing look filthy and not real.
He looks like Tom Cruise and fucking, uh, what's it there?
Tropic Lundra.
Yeah.
Less Grossman.
Uh, but yeah, he, he like, he's like, oh, it's fuck.
And she's like, no, Tim.
And, like, she kicks him out.
And then here comes, I'll tell you when your movie's got some problems.
Chris Klein shows up.
I had no knowledge that he was in this movie.
And he's in a lot.
I forgot completely.
I saw this over the pandemic.
And, uh, that was the first time I saw it.
And, uh, I completely.
blacked out because I didn't remember
you fell on the floor dude you didn't know it you woke up
and it was like 40 minutes left in the movie
my teeth were all on the floor
gone and I had to go to Clark and
it's just weird because like
you know I don't have any ill
ill will against the guy but I
literally was like that guy
looks like Chris Klein and then I
looked at the television again and just went
oh man Chris Klein is
Dusty Dingleman
Oh yeah the dust man
Dinkleman and you better you better like
this fake song Jamie Smiles because you're
going to hear it 16 to 20 times.
Well, which one are you going to hear more of the bad
fake songs? Jamie Smiles are this abhorrent
Anna Ferris one that she's singing.
Great question. Where are you?
He's trying to
make his move. He's got like the
he's a guitar kid which is kind of funny
in its own right. He can't even like play
this song. It's terrible and Ryan
Reynolds kicks him out of the room like go
practice it and come back another. Like he's in
this moment he is kind of Ryan Reynolds thing
a little bit out of the Cartman character
when he has to get like angry I guess
so he shoes him away and then
it's like here we go oh
you know read the note in the yearbook and she
opens it and starts laughing
then he realizes oh that's Tim's
yearbook she's also at this point
made him wear a t-shirt that she made him
that's his best friends forever
oh right there's them as cats or something
and it's just quite tight and again this
is after she is twice now
laughingly like
rolled back and you see her
cotton white panties under the
and I'm like again dude
she does not think of you as a sexual vessel
in any capacity no she's not even
thinking about it as much as you are not able
to get yourself out of this
world where this is happening already
and you just have to do it and then it will happen
she is of the mind that
you are just friends exactly she's in the reality
she's just like this is my friend and I get
to fucking flip around and fucking show whatever
to him and again like you don't know
does he like the things that they say
that they like right now or is
he doing it as long? Yes, or is it
the game, man? It's like, I'm going to
like Party of Five and this, that, and the other thing, to try
to get with her. That's the question.
Well, maybe that's the things you don't know any, you don't,
there's no sincerity to his character,
no authenticity, you don't know what any of this
is. No, but so it would be
an awesome thing if you saw him in L.A.
You know, as an adult and he's just
home alone one night and he's literally watching
Party of Five. Because first of all, by the way, folks,
kids at home, look it up. It's real easy
to like Party of Five.
It's not that hard.
I gave it a shot.
Never saw it.
Doesn't make you a gaywad.
But maybe that's the good idea.
Like he could be in L.A.
being into all the stuff they're into,
but like secretly,
he doesn't want people in L.A.
or his circle knowing.
It's like Jerry doesn't want the cop to know
that he watches Melrose play.
He still loves it.
Exactly.
Yeah, you need something like that because you're right.
But I would say it has to all be genuine
because I don't think this kid's built with the game
that would require him to concoct the whole.
long game in the first place.
No, no. You're not doing that if you're
also having what we find out later
Fudge Candy Mountain
every day. That's that game.
Oh yeah, no, that's gross.
But so he realizes, uh-oh,
his yearbook got switched with Tim
or whatever, and he runs out
and Tim is regaling
the party by reading the note.
You're right, this is carry level.
It is. It's really humiliating.
Like, this is not like,
you know, whoops, pulled your pants,
out of the hallway, you're humiliate. It's like, this is a, you poured your heart and soul
out. This is not stuffing someone in a locker. Another way this movie could
continue after this scene, about 10 years later, would require a lot
of soft focus POV shots of these kids getting killed
one by one. And you don't know who came back. Just give it like the most
graduation party. Yes, exactly. You'll never survive
the yearbook. Yearbook massacre.
Are you bringing the keg?
you're bringing the killer.
I like yearbook because then he can kill people that are going to go see the notebook,
which is in this movie as well.
Oh,
I'll get to that.
The yearbook massacre.
Keep in touch.
Oh, dude, yeah.
And you realize, like, so what is it?
The killer is going through all the members of like a certain club, right?
So you're looking at all the club pages.
We're halfway there.
Copyright, copyright, copyright.
He kills a girl in a bikini on a beach in the summer.
Have a great summer.
Yes.
All the most likely to.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, that's what it is.
All the kids that won them
Laurels there or whatever you call them?
What are the most word for those things?
I think that Laurel is the right word.
That works.
I think there's another word.
Then at one point I knew, Steve, you knew
because you said it another time
when we were talking about these.
I was really hoping you were...
It's a large database.
So anyway, he runs out and...
First of all, anyone noticed Wilson Fisk
in this party?
Like, it's all these high school kids
that are older.
There's this big ball...
He's built like a...
fuck he's in a letterman jacket
he's bald as the day is long
like Q balled I'm like Wilson Fisk
well there's a couple of dudes
when he runs into like
he goes into the party at the start of the scene
and he runs into a couple dudes from the football team
these guys
look like they should be at fucking old timers
night at MetLife Stadium
I mean if these are football players
my God have a great summer
it's Hill's Kitchen
see you around Hell's Kitchen
summer as freaking geeks taught us
you know, older guys, there are just a suck
to them that will show up to your party.
And they're going to take your beer and
try to have sex with a 16 year old.
Totally fine, Megan Kelly.
You know, that guy served in Congress
in Florida?
Oh, really?
It's crazy. Wow.
So he runs out humiliated.
Tim has a good, goodbye, fatty,
which is mean, but I kind of laugh.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
There's a couple of like ADRs,
like someone watching this.
And it didn't seem like, they need more fat jokes.
He's like, what are you going to go cry now?
Like, just people from wherever.
Yeah, he's just catching strays.
All he's trying to do is get out the front door.
He's catching strays left and right.
She runs after him.
And this is embarrassing because she has, I guess, read the note, maybe skimmed it.
Maybe read it a little too fast.
Didn't get the real meat of the message here because she runs out and she's like, is this true?
And he's like, ah, ma'am, cheesy pig.
You can't say anything.
And then she's like, she's like, she's.
like, oh, well, I love you too.
And he goes to kiss her and she kisses him on the cheek like a brother.
And like, it doesn't even appear as if she's trying to diffuse the note in so much as she's read it wrong.
And it's like, oh, I love you too.
What a sweet note.
We're going to have a great summer or whatever.
And they just, this is, man, everybody at this party comes outside on the stoop and is just chanting at him, yelling at whatever.
And he's getting on his bike and he's like, oh, fucking Ryan Reynolds, you're going to ruin the day you fucking learn my name.
jerks, I'll show you, I'll show all of you, this town is full of losers, I'm going to be
somebody. And then the weirdest turn for the movie happens. What's that? It goes to present day,
which is like, I can't believe this is set in 2025. Yeah, it's crazy. I can't believe you
keep getting fooled by that when it happens in movies. I don't, I, if you go, if you start your
movie with 1995 and go to present day, I just don't like present day. No, right. I, they said 10 years
Just cement it.
Just do 10 years later.
That's the move.
There you go.
A ding-dong decade later.
But then you don't have any rules you have to follow.
You don't have to actually do anything.
Like there's no, oh, this was this year.
You have to know that this was popular at the time.
Or like people were doing this.
They were buying these kinds of houses.
Any kind of little detail that would give you something.
Exactly.
But like, that's my point is that if present day is to allow you to do whatever the fuck you like.
Oh, so I see.
So what you're saying is what should have happened was to see Ryan Reynolds,
he wakes up at the morning and goes on on his balcony.
He's looking over the,
the Hollywood Hills, and he stretches, gives a yawn, and goes,
oh, so the Iraq war started yesterday.
Just to position us, you're saying?
You planted it right out of my head. That's exactly what I wanted to do.
He's at a holiday party. This movie is barely a holiday movie.
I was just going to say, it's a heartwarming Christmas movie.
Take that H word out of there. This is a warming Christmas
movie? This is how hardcore this movie doesn't give a fuck that it's a Christmas movie, though,
because it has the holiday Christmas party, and no one even acknowledges that it's a
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The whole thing is the whole thing.
is Ryan Reynolds. Everything else
does not matter. Because, like, to go
Eric was talking about earlier, we get
here and you would think you've
conquered, you're at this record company
that's doing very well. Your boss
is fucking Stephen Root. I would kill for that.
Yeah, revenge
is a life well lived.
Yeah, yeah, that's all. But like, of course,
he's like, he's a victim because Stephen
Roots makes me get a lobster and he's
fucking mean to me like no
other boss ever has been. God damn it.
Well, he is trying to make him like
signed this big artist a few days
before Christmas. This seems like a fool's air
in Stephen Rout. Does these pants make me look fat?
That's a good line. It's like leather pants.
Yeah, it's like Stephen Rood leather pants. I'd lose that
bad. It's supposed to be like this swarmy record producer
who vanishes out of the movie pretty much.
Just right out of it. He has to call him once
to be like, hey, just
remember if you don't end this movie
the way I want you to, you're fired.
So he's like the president of like red bulb records or something
who now wants to sign Anna Ferris.
for her new album, because she's on...
Extra, dude.
Extra.
Oh, fuck.
Extra, extra.
Oh, that takes me back.
By the way, again, showing you that this movie does not care at all that it's a Christmas
movie, if this were a shitty Lifetime or Hallmark kind of Christmas movie, red bulb
records means all they produce is Christmas.
That's a good movie thing.
And then you're convincing her to do a novelty Christmas album.
Yep, exactly.
And then, you know, that could be some tension there because there's no real tension with
them either. Like, I know she's all over him
and he doesn't want it. It's also bizarre because she's
producing an album at the
time. It's very... For some
record. For someone, yes. Yeah, and
I guess so, like, I almost call them
Jimmy James. Stephen Root, his character
on his radio was Jimmy James.
Stephen Root's character, yeah, wants to, I guess,
poach is the idea. Well, that's the weird...
Okay, because Ryan Reynolds gets
this assignment, uh, and of course
Steven Roots mess with his assistant
and be like, fuck you, I hate you. Yeah. And then
Ryan Reynolds goes to where
they're recording this album.
And the guys behind, like,
doing all the tech stuff, and there's
one line that I was not crazy about.
That was one that I was like,
oh, baby, it is 2005.
That was tough.
But like, the Asian slur
at the dude.
She called the Asian producer
Kung Kung Fu-y.
Yes, now I remember.
Beloved cartoon character.
Not to be rude, but the dude doesn't
even have a line. If you're going to slur
someone, he needs to at least have
a lie. He just, like, cocks his eyebrow, like,
that's pretty bad, right, guys?
But what you, to what
we were talking about, it's,
they are like, whatever, I,
like, they must like give up the contract
just right there when they're like, we give up.
They must be totally fine with that, though,
because she does sound like quite the monster
to work with here. We learned that, like,
she had a fling with Ryan Reynolds at
some point, and, or they just had one
date or something, and he wound up in the
hospital, so you know she's capital
C crazy. And she's, but like,
The other thing is, like, the way Stephen Root makes out,
it's like, she is a multi-billion,
like this is,
this will bring in so much fucking money because she has the sexy poster.
That's the thing.
That's the,
the pin in all of this is that there's a sexy poster with her doing basically
the fucking Allie Larder varsity blues,
whipped cream teats with the cherries his nipples,
but then also has a chocolate covered hot banana that she's about to put in her mouth.
And I think he's,
But he thinks the, this is in 2005, this successful, we're told, businessman thinks a poster is going to take off so much that it would be this huge record.
Before Twitter, guys, posters were king at that point.
And there were several.
In the land without Twitter, posters are key.
And as we see when we see the brother's room, there's many posters.
It's not just the one.
She's been.
But like then the extra thing also suggests, like, she's been around forever and she's been making hits.
I'm like, I don't get any of this.
is she a musician or is she like
a Paris Hilton fake person
that's like I made an album. Maybe a little bit of both.
They do say, she says a couple times like my
dad, my dad, like she's rich.
They're also like slapping rich girl
in there somewhere. Right. And
one of her pursuits was like
spreading vegetarianism
in third world countries. We see that real
quick on the extra. It's more or less that
get him to the Greek scene. Yes,
it's a vessel for a bad
joke or whatever. But it's also to show like
how dumb. They would
Never be vegetative.
Like, how naive.
Yeah.
How dumb.
Yeah.
This girl's dumb.
She is dumb.
She's dumb blonde, as they say.
Anna Farris is fun in this movie.
I do think everyone goes over.
Maybe it's because when I was, when people were trying to tell it, Anna Farris is
fucking amazing.
And I'm waiting for, I don't know what.
And it's like, that's, it's funny.
It's just not a very funny movie.
It's the problem.
Sure.
She is funny.
And I get that.
And I think she's a very funny actress.
The movie is not very funny.
the wildest of performances
in this movie
they're at like a seven
and she's at like a 12
like it's a completely different movie
like she just everything is extreme
like when she sees Ryan Reynolds
like in the studio or whatever
when they get together she's like
there's a lot of like comedic tongue
kissing in this movie she's licking
faces biting his lip and he's like
oh man I hate this
oh this is terrible
oh man we're gonna have really good sex
I'm gonna hate all of it
She's got this line, God, I want to lick your skin off.
And she's, like, getting ready to fuck.
Like, you see, like, all over the place she is.
She's pulling his pants down to, like, suck his dick in this recording studio.
And then she's like, oh, wait, do you want to hear my song?
And this was one of the moments that I got a legitimate laugh.
She's out this guitar.
She's singing some thing very poorly.
Forgiveness is the big song.
Yes, forgiveness.
I couldn't think of the one word title here.
And, like, he's there.
And he's got his pants like around his knees.
And I don't know if this is an accident or they were able to time it with, you know,
clothing effects or whatever but as soon as she starts saying the pants fall all the way to his
ankles god damn that was funny because he's just staring at her and they just fall down very
funny she wants to spend christmas in paris yes so do i jesus and the idea is he's going to go with
her and that's going to be great because his whole thing yes you have to like get her to sign
to the label by it should be by christmas eve yeah let's put a holiday clock on it exactly
some kind yeah so the they did this chartered fly
they go on and apparently she puts
what is it, aluminum foil
in the microwave and that's why they have to
emergency land in New Jersey
which happens to be where
Chris is from. Now the thing with
the microwaveing the foil like that's obviously
dumb but you know what else is dumb
she's microwaving
Ahi tuna. Yeah it's a bad idea.
In a plane like foil or no you can't be stinking up the cabin
like that. Well if it's just you
and you're trying and this person you're trying
to torture all the time
maybe i'd be worried the scent would knock out the pilot we'd crash yeah maybe yes but emergency landing in
new jersey and boy oh boy get your fucking this movie stuck in amber out yeah she thinks it's a
gag here and she goes oh am i being punked where's ashton oh those like airport and all these
the flight group people are like jesus ask your grandparents who ashton is by
ashen kutcher you understand i ran a program called punked and you would run around and uh beguile
like Tofra Grace and Tofra Grace.
It was a turn of the century.
After 2001, when those towers went down.
One man started making a prank show
where he kind of mostly just prank people he co-starred with
on that 70s show.
But there were some other people around as well.
Including his best friend, Danny Masterson,
who was a real cool guy.
And I understand, most people didn't even seek out this program.
They were just killing time until Pip My Rye.
man sometimes that's what happens when you're a lead-in to a better show now you understand
pink my ride was a television program wherein if you told somebody you liked the ninja turtles they would
ruin your car by making it look like a ninja turtle fan now have you ever heard of the word
exhibit you take the e and the h out of that sucker and you got the host of hit my ride
of course then after that you'd want to stick around for room raiders where a girl or guy would go into your
room with a camera and they would
comment on your stuff and perhaps they
would date you or something. I kind of
forget how that one went.
There was also cribs, you understand.
That's when you saw celebrities' homes.
But sometimes they couldn't get a big
enough celebrity, you see. So sometimes it would
just be a middle of the road musician who played
guitar and a band. And in those episodes,
he mostly just showed you the DVDs
he owned. You saw
both guitars from some 41 houses.
And to be clear, this is before Twitter.
So that's how mom and dad got along at the time.
Yeah, mom and dad met looking at a poster, warm their hearts.
You go to the Sam Goody, you look at a poster, saying, hey, those are two girls kissing.
How about that?
And then every day at 4 p.m., we all gather around the warmth of the box, and our Lord and Savior, Carson Daly, would tell us which music videos you called in and wanted played the most.
They then would broadcast those videos live, you see.
It was like a total request live.
You'd say, praise the Lord, we have T.R.N.
I know what the terrorist didn't win.
We still have T.R.A.
Where would corn be without?
Great question, honestly.
It's huge.
Here's something about the movie, Just Friends, which we talked about 20 minutes ago.
Oh, sure.
So then there's a movie for a lot.
Just Friends.
Just get a hotel.
Like, you get stranded in wherever the fuck, New Jersey.
You're still rich.
You're still rich.
You're ghosting your family for Christmas.
Christmas anyway, Ryan Reynolds. You know what I mean?
And they go to some weird
lengths to make it, like, this is the first time he's
been back, like, because Julie Haggerty,
the great Julie Haggerty. Julie dropped from the
movie Haggerty. Julie
made me laugh twice in this movie Haggerty,
which is a real fucking Herculean feat.
Yep.
Says like, oh no, he would only,
he only sent us from to Los Angeles.
He flies the family out, yeah. Which is like, that doesn't
make it. Look, there's this weird idea about
like going away to college in quotation marks.
where it's like 1908
where you just take a boat
you go away to college
you're back for the fucking summer
you're back for Christmas
you're back all the time
like you're still living at home
I guess maybe he got off
campus housing because did he go to school in
California and just stayed out there
you don't get to know it because
nothing's contextual that would make a character
and you don't want any of that
you just want jokes you want a line delivery system
he went to college you see he became Van Wilder
seven years well I heard that guy's a cut up
Oh, absolutely, dude.
You know, one time I heard Van Wilder, he made a campus enemy eat dog semen out of an eclair.
Wow.
Is that right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, baby.
What the fuck?
They got a bulldog, you see, with a huge balls.
Is it Tech's bulldog or his bulldog?
I think it's his bulldog, but tech from real world Hawaii, I believe, was having a bit of an acting career.
Thanks in part to MTV and TRL, I believe.
And so he's in the movie and he's like, you know what, I will be.
the semen technician for this will jerk off
your dog and then take the semen
and fill in Eclayers and then give it to
the rival squad
or whatever. Sounds a lot like bestiality
to me, Tech.
Back in the day after your
mom and pa would like to gaze at a poster
they'd like to take in a film per chance
usually one where
someone has to eat dog's seamen.
And then of course they would get the
idea. Why don't we
get our enemy some dog semen
of clairs? And they would go,
a dog and jerk it off.
So yes, your mom and dad probably
jerked off a dog and fed the
seaman to someone. I will
say, I was... TRL.
I lost a bet to myself
because I'd never seen this movie before in full.
I would have bet at some
point in the movie Ryan Reynolds
fought a tiny animal a la
something about Mary, allah
saving Silverman, the
style at the time. It was very popular
and honestly that might have been an added flavor I could have
used in this. Yeah, if he was
like taking out the trash one night and a fucking
raccoon jumped out at him and he
fought it. Yep, that's exactly.
But you just get a fucking hotel, dude. Like, you're
ghosting your family for the holidays. You have this
nightmare person you have to babysit. Yep.
Just stay at a hotel and go to New York City.
Yes, it's right there. It is
right there, dude. Yeah, because
the pilot is like, oh,
we're only like an hour outside of Trenton or something.
Like, you can make it up to the city
in like 90 minutes. It's fine.
And they're acting like fucking, he comes
from modest means. Have you, did you see this
house? This house is humongous.
Pretty nice house. And of course it's the
terrifying, the room is
just as you left it 10 years ago
including your fucking weird stalker
board that he goes up to. And he's looking at
and it's all this like, Chris and Jamie
friends forever. And then he starts like
taking down all the pictures of him
fat and just still, still leaving
her photos up. Did he leave
for college that night? Like what?
Like he didn't go upstairs and be like, you know what
I'm sorry to this board? Exactly. It doesn't
look like he moved at all. I don't care if you married
her by now. Don't have
photos of a 16 year old girl on your
wall. That's weird. Not great.
There is a good gag here though
where he's looking at one photo
and it appears to be folded and it's
like her and it looks like she's like
sort of leaning on him kind of and he
unfolds it and so there's a football player
in the middle of them and he has a good reaction
of like yeah or whatever and sort of
refolds it back up.
He has a little brother here
the one that called him a homo earlier
the third from the girl
next door, it's Paul Dano
Emil Hirsch in this guy
and this guy dude, you can see
the writing on the wall with this hairline for this
guy, poor bastard, oh shit.
He's in Barry for a little bit
as well. Oh, really? Yeah, the first
he's the guy, right? I think he's the guy that he kill
his friend that he has to either kill or
some. Oh, you're right. Yeah, you're
a second barrier. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Oh,
that's cool. Well, good for him. I, and I also
remember him from the, the disastrous
fanboys. Oh, right. That's right. That's right. He is one of the
He's a funny enough presence in this movie.
Like, it's okay, yeah.
He gets the most slurs, which makes him unfunny.
Oh, Andrew, he was in Reacher as Jacob Merrick for eight episodes.
Oh, this is the upcoming season.
Oh, a little Hollywood news, extra, extra.
Mario!
It's just 2016.
Oh, I'm so excited.
No, but yeah, he's like, he has fun, like, little brother chemistry with Ryan
Reynolds when it is able to be fun.
Yeah, and I do like that the brother
fighting that they have here is like kind of
it's like extreme three stooges
fighting. Yes. Like he's actually,
there's one point where he, the kid goes to drive off
the actor's name is Chris Marquette. He goes
to drive off with Anna Farras at one point and he
fucking jabs Ryan Reynolds
in the eyeball with his finger
like really hard and all the fighting that they do and like
it's actually Ryan Reynolds like jumping on this guy
a lot of the time like clearly
it was all like thought out hopefully and Ryan Reynolds
wasn't surprising this dude
with fucking power bombs or whatever
But it's funny, you know
It's a funny little brother stuff
It's a fine joke to plays for most of the movies
Now I forget
Did you carry do physical comments
Occasionally?
Really?
Weird thing is he says here
Like because the kid realizes like
Oh you got Anna Ferris with you
Whatever he says that he was
Smacking the ham to a photo of her
Not an hour prior
Julie Haggerty
What ham did you slam?
I would be asking the same question
Because I've never
This one I have never heard.
I've never heard slapping the ham.
Nor does any ham I've ever seen have come in the shape of a penis.
No.
Or balls, for that matter.
But I have been in the kitchen and just like, you know, slap to ham one.
Sure.
Just like, ham's done.
Just to give it a good slap.
But you're not jerking off.
No.
To get her Anna Ferris away from his horrible family, he goes to a bar.
This is where he runs into Clark and Darla.
It's like, oh, cool, my old friends.
And like, Anna Ferris is fucking terrible.
Really terrible to them.
although it's this she has
she's like because her whole thing is yes
she's like rich or whatever so she goes
yes it's me yeah okay it is funny because
nobody gives a shit she's like
hiding which is very funny and then she's like
your names are Clark and Darla
oh that's so cute or whatever
and then she's like got to go to the bathroom or something
and has this really hilarious
like just kisses Darla
passionately on the mouth
yes but then
here's another this movie
is just comfortably resting in
where Tim the jock comes up looking like
fucking Will Sassau with this bald cap on
and he's of course
a total loser that's what we do to
Townie archetype characters like this guy and he goes
to Reynolds' character
named Chris he goes Chris I saw you sit at the
Grammys next to pee did he
I'm like you're watching the Grammys
like you're watching the Grammys enough that you're like
oh that's my friend well maybe it was the year
that I love this bar was fucking nominated
Oh got it yeah
I got to represent alien ant farms.
But yeah, it's like, oh, wow, you're sexy and you're slim and you're very successful.
Congratulations.
Right.
He's got a power boner during this time.
Oh, big.
Crushing all of his enemies.
And that's all.
What more do you need?
Exactly.
You were hanging out, you hang out with P. Diddy.
Yeah.
You got the invite to the fucking freakoffs, dude.
Come on.
Absolutely.
Go to a ditty party.
I would love for that, like, the character has to live through, like, the P.
Diddy thing is like, like, there wasn't.
that much baby oil.
Everybody's blown this way out of proportion.
It wasn't that much oil.
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uh he spies jamie is working at the bar and they have this little it's kind of awkward meeting here
but again this is just the word she's like oh i can put my arms around you now it's like oh thanks a lot
Well, because, and this is the thing to the problem, like, it's almost too many problems.
Like, is, because there's a way this movie works where he's a big successful so-and-so.
He has to go home and, oh, he meets the sexy girl that he used to be friends with.
And the obstacles, how do I get her to win me?
But then this whole Anna Farris thing, to your point, is another movie entirely.
It's like, I have to keep Anna Farris away from her.
Right.
And I'm like, who, it's just, it's too much going on.
Which, and it's also a weird thing where it's like, it's all based, like, his relationship with Anna Farris is,
because he has this, like, professional obligation.
But as far as she sees,
what she thinks it is,
that's all based on a total misinterpretation.
Like, she thinks that they're together.
So it's one thing if it was the movie where, like,
he comes to town and, like,
indeed, this is my shitty girlfriend that I'm with.
And that kind of sucks.
But it's just this work obligation,
but she thinks it's a couple thing.
And never, he's never, unless I miss something,
he's never like, look, I am not with this woman.
This is a work thing.
I'm stuck with her because of work-related reasons.
Does he even tell Anna Farris about this record offer?
Is that, or is he just deceiving another woman here?
I think it's the second one maybe.
Yeah, he's pretending to be on a relationship with her.
And then, like, he'll give her the big contract at some point.
Yeah, what she says to him in the record studio is like, oh, are you just here because you're trying to sign me to your label now?
Or do you want to get back together?
Yeah, okay, I got it.
Yeah.
but it's
Anna Ferris makes it impossible
for them to connect so he's like
you know actually maybe I'll stay tomorrow
can I take you out to lunch or whatever
or something right well she wants to go to lunch
and his whole thing
that he tells some other guy
yeah his like hockey buddy at the beginning of the movie
I thought this was like a hitch situation
for a second because he's given this other guy
like lady advice and one of the things is
don't do a lunch date because day dates
don't lead to anything
you know genital related
So why bother kind of deal?
Okay, why bother them?
Why bother?
I don't get to say this often.
Boy, I wish I was watching Hitch.
I was flying back from Vegas and I watched someone watch Hitch in the row in front of me.
Really?
Yeah.
That's interesting.
It was kind of the perfect way for me to watch Hitch, though.
I would suggest that for everybody.
I like that because the fat's real.
Yeah, exactly.
Earned fat.
Yeah, I don't want fake fat.
The thing, though, about the fat suit, and I said at the front is the sort of opening remark.
I thought the fat suit would get more.
play just because like it's the poster
it was all over the trailer I expected this movie
to have flashbacks to them
in high school various moments
I mean you fucking rented this fat suit from
the friends lot like you get your money's worth
here
also I was that might make it worse
or maybe better I don't know which way
but also I was surprised I have to say and not
that it's by any great shakes
or anything like that but I
thought because in the trailer
for what I remembered which was mainly the poster
and then him singing at the end which is really just like
torso up. I was
genuinely surprised it wasn't more of
a fat bastard like blowout
suit. It's just kind of heavy. That's the thing
that he's just like got a gut on
him. No, no. Dodgeball already did that.
Yeah. And we're copying
dodgeball a lot anyway, but like
this, that's what the gut is out like this.
Because he kind of just looks like the son from
Dr. Katz. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like
a tall dude with a belly. Yes. That's true.
Like it isn't even the fat thing. Like he has
more fat in his face than his belly.
it's crazy. Les Grossman in Tropic Thunder
Tom Cruise was a bigger
bigger fat suit than this guy. Anyway.
So they're going to meet and then
this is when he's like, all right, I'm going to have
my weird pervert brother
take her to the mall. Is that it?
Yeah, you take her to the mall. I need you
to detain Samantha, he
says. And basically
he's like, okay, you do that and
he's like pretending to be her manager. He's like, oh no, you need to go
and see where the people are and something, something.
So you can get inspired, you know,
You need to be with the people, your people or the people, you know, go be amongst the people to be inspired.
And you have to do this by yourself.
Not with me.
You have to do, you and this pervert will do it.
You and this pervert.
My brother, sorry.
The little pervert here will do it and maybe kill you.
So we go to Jamie's house for the lunch date here.
And yeah, the dad's like, ha, ha, Mr. Valentine's Day.
Look at you.
Big fat loser.
How you doing?
How'd you lose that weight?
Like that R word from Subway?
that's where this line is
but like this dude cannot escape this shit man
and I'm like it pains me
that this movie puts me on the side of this character
but they go to this diner
and this old sack of shit greasy spoon waitresses
like here's your big chocolate covered pancakes
you fat shit. Sugar Mountain Supreme
you nailed it because it's this fucking feeling
that like guys like this are all over the place
where they're like everything that's happened to me
has been like planned like the world has been against me
and like you are forcing me
to fucking side with him
and I fucking hate
like I hate those guys
and like that shit
for me to force it
I'm like no no he sucks
he fucking sucks
the lady who gave him
the fucking pancakes
yes this was a stupid thing to do
but she's probably a better person
on all of their fronts
you should be calling people
chubby monkey or whatever
generally yeah
chubby bunny
okay
that's what I'm saying
it's just like
yeah first of all
congratulations
you senile old bag
you remember me from 10 years ago
awesome but like
don't point out stuff
like that to people and then like clearly yeah
like he's gone through something
have the awareness that he's not going to want
your hot fudge Sunday. After 10 years
you're like oh let me get the usual
not even going to take your order just bring you the
food. The usual fuck you yeah I didn't ask
for this and this is Monica
fat suit friends bullshit
of like if you're an overweight person
in a comedy in a fat
suit you don't just like eat food
and like it just doesn't you know metastasize
you know whatever
metabolize is the right word
It's like, I need a mountain of pancakes with ice cream and chocolate.
Inhuman food.
We want food.
Tommy want wingy.
Look, every time on Friends, like, oh, remember Monica when you ate not just the birthday cake, but the table it was on?
And I will say that fat suit is more of the fat bastard blowout.
Like, she's shaped like fucking grimace on that show.
It's awful.
Well, yeah, it's all fucking man versus food food.
Yeah.
That's all he's eating.
That's all that's allowed.
you're in a comedy and you're an actor in a fat suit,
they will have you doing nothing but competitive
eating size dishes. But you don't even
get the competition or the TV show.
You don't get the thrill of the competition.
So he's acting like an asshole here. He's name
dropping like, oh yeah, I was sitting
with Pink and Good Charlotte.
Good, he's named drops.
It's amazing. And then like
the brother calls him from the mall and he's an asshole
here too. He's like, oh, sorry, it's the
coast. I have to take... Dude, if anyone
anyone was
like, I have to take a call.
It's the coast. When they go to take that call,
I will silently get up from the restaurant
and leave. Guess where you are right now, motherfucker?
A coast. Yeah, you're a fucking Jersey,
dude. You're the Atlantic's right next to you.
Oh, man. Ladies and gentlemen,
now, good Charlotte is, if you left,
just to remind you, you ask your parents about good
Charlotte. It's like if you put Blink 182
in the toilet, you understand. You'd
scoop it out and you'd get Good Charlotte.
The thing, there was brothers
in that band, they were twin brothers,
so half that band looks exactly
the same. Have you ever heard of Cameron Diaz? Her husband. Try to figure this out. Cameron Diaz has been
married to one of the guys, I think Joe, gets good charted for a very long time. Quite some time.
That's insane. I didn't know that. It's crazy. Which makes me, here's what I think that means, though.
This is why she always friend zoned me.
Of course. Yes. Finally. Now it all makes sense. I look at the idea of you and Cameron Diaz going to the theater together.
And you're like, is this a date? Cameron Diaz.
Well, we used to get pancakes.
You should have, I don't think you should have,
you definitely just shouldn't have put that note
at the end of the mask comic book that you came out.
I just don't think that was a good idea.
I think that that could mean that Cameron Diaz is pretty cool.
Yeah.
If you're just married to Joel from Good Charlotte,
maybe you're pretty cool.
I mean, Cameron Diaz has always seemed pretty cool.
I mean, I know.
I love the counselor, so I'm all for Cameron Diaz fucking cars
and doing the cool stuff.
No, like Cameron Diaz.
I love her.
I wish that that
I feel in a way
like her and Jamie Fox
innocent in that bad
Netflix action movie
because I think they actually
had pretty good chemistry
and it was cool to see her
back in like a big movie like that
it just wasn't very good
The Netflix action action
I think she stopped working
because she wanted to stop working for a bit
was kind of the idea
Yeah I think we're maybe
Raising her family
with Joel from Good Charlotte
Now I'm going to have that name wrong by the way
Is it Benji?
Wasn't there a Benji?
It's Joel and Benji
Maddener the two guys
I don't know
She's married to one of them.
I'm shocked.
You guys know their names.
One of them is very fond of fedoras,
and I don't know which one it is.
Oh, yeah, you're in good Charlotte.
You almost have to be.
So whatever, like, yeah.
It goes poorly.
Yeah, it goes poorly.
The brother calls, this is the weird,
he accidentally tazes Anna Farris,
and unlike the film Clueless,
where Britney Murphy is about to fall
to her death in that mall,
and she's saved by Breck and Meyer, I believe.
No, it's the other little guy.
The one that winds up being gay,
whatever that guy. Oh, that's the guy who said. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. Because then he chastises
everybody, you're right. Instead of that, though, Anna Farris just falls off this thing while being
tased and the dude is actually great. What the fuck? He's got some line here. Good save. It was Benji.
Oh, was it? It's Benjian. There we go. See, it's not Joel or Joe, whatever's name.
The other one. Benjie Madden is who Cameron Diaz is married to. And he's still in the band Good Charlotte.
That I know for sure. The kid has some line, though, that's like she falls off and he's like,
like, is she doing all right? What's going on?
He's like, oh, yeah, she's fine. I got to go.
Or, like, whatever it is. This kid does have some good timing here.
But, like, this woman should be dead.
And this is where I was like, oh, this movie's operating on like a little bit of an
unrealistic wavelength here. Like, if she can, she should have plummeted to her death.
And instead, the movie's just like, oh, she's like concussed or something.
More than, I mean, they take this lady on a ride.
Like, she's, they've got her in this get up, like a drooling fucking toothpaste.
Oh, it's disgusting.
Her brain has been dented
And like then what
Like a day later she's fine
I don't know about that
She's loaded up on Vicodin
Did she even go to the hospital?
Is there a concussion?
Well that's the thing because he said
The brother says that he gave her
The mother's Viking
Yeah exactly so I think she just
He just took her home
Yeah you're gonna
There's a fucking brain bleed by New Year's
Dude I'll tell you right now
Your Popstar is dead
But this is where he
So he drops Amy Smart back off
The date did not go well
this is where he's definitely gym carrying out
like stupid stupid stupid stupid and this is kind of funny
she comes up to the window
and he's funny and then like he rolls it down
and she's like uh left my gloves on the seat
kind of a good gag right now
did you uh yeah exactly
um so the dentist you know he's at the dentist
and the dentist is like he brings up the friends
something he's like you know what man
sounds like you're right back in the friend zone
he's like dude stop helping
No, you just move on.
Hey, man, hasn't it been 10 years?
Shouldn't you be like doing literally anything else?
Yeah, exactly.
Who cares?
Have you grown as a person even a little bit?
No, I have.
No, and that's a good thing.
You need to kill bill alarms when the Fred zone is brought up.
Because it really is a trigger to him.
I guess this is sort of not, it's not, you're not fighting a little animal, but you are fighting little kids, which was also the style at the time.
This elongated hockey sequence.
And we all loved.
Fighting little kids.
Now, you've got to turn the clock back.
Turn of the century and you like to get your aggression out on the children.
You know the giants of the famous New York franchise,
well, how if they're little?
And Rick Moranis and Al Bundy slugged each other over it.
Could you imagine tackling a little giant?
And you know what, I mean, who knows, at the time,
maybe I would have thought this was funny.
but I it doesn't really play now.
It's very flat.
It's kind of annoying.
I guess they're like going to go on an ice skating date because now he was too fat to ice skate
before but now he's good at ice skating specifically.
I don't know if it was a fat thing.
I think it was just like he was bad at it.
But then he got good at it and like he's been psychotic about this girl for so long
that he's been training for this day and he's pissed at Julie Haggerty's mother for getting
rid of his ice skates.
Oh, right.
It's like, oh, I gave that away years ago.
Well, you never really used them and you've been gone.
You never come home.
But yet everything else is untouched and a shrine.
The room is one thing, dude.
The garage though, we're throwing stuff out.
And like, since it's not his skates, he's bad at ice skating.
Yeah, because we're blaming the rental skates, which like he's acted like these things haven't even been sharpened.
And I'm sure they would have been sharpened a little bit, man.
You're not falling down like this.
Good skater could skate in anything.
No, but again, it's the fucking world's against.
him. So the fucking, he has to get the worst
roller skates, or not roller skates,
the ice skates out there. And like,
it's just all on him every time.
Don't want to miss a good
Julie Haggerty gag here.
So when he calls...
Oh, this made me laugh. When he calls
Jamie to invite her to go ice skating
and he like apologizes for how shitty the date went or
whatever, Julie Haggerty picks up the phone
and just starts dialing.
And then puts the phone up to her ear
and she thinks it's like she's calling her
friend or whatever. And then Ryan Reynolds is like
mom and she's like oh what are you doing over at lois's house and he's like mom i'm home i'm 10 feet
away from you it was joyce's yeah and then later on there's they do reprise it a few times right
they get 120 he checks his messages and it's like hi joy that's a great call that's a good one
because it's all like anna ferris calling him and they're like uh she calls first like apologetically
and then with each voicemail she gets angrier and then the last one is joys
he's the best dude
but yeah so the
yeah all the hockey goes poorly
wouldn't you know it he
this is you know what this is
this is where we're going from
we're doing a gym carry thing
to we're definitely just stealing from
Ben Stiller yes yes
this is a Ben Stiller
I'm slow mo gonna do a thing
and then I accidentally
physically hurt myself instead
sure this is it he tries to do a slap shot
he hits the fucking crossbar
it comes back in the puck gets him in the face
and then he gets Homer Sipson
into cany. Yes. Yes. There is
a line that made me
a laugh when he's talking to one of the
the father who's like the coach in this thing
or whatever. He says to one of those
kids who were criticizing his skating
as these damn rental skates
and he's like, the father comes up, he's like,
do you not curse in front of the children?
Yeah, the dad who's like this
weiner coach guy is pretty great.
But then he gets called a pussy by a girl
that's playing hockey, which is pretty funny.
But yeah, the slap shot thing
happens he breaks his teeth
here comes Chris Klein here he's
back he's handsome I can't
not think it's the
whoever leaked this
I know where we're going it's the fucking Chris Klein
audition tape from Mamma Mia man
I thought about it too
and it's the work because the singing is bad
but it's the beginning of him like
running the room for a couple of minutes
where he comes in he's like did you have Mandy Moore
out there oh my God you I did a
little movie with her American Dreams
it is incredible she is a dream boat
she is fantastic what he is just like smoozing it is so cringy to watch it you doing it was
giving me goosebumps i mean it's awful and it's i mean like he must have pissed somebody off
real bad exactly i mean like it is just it's not apology towards the right it sounds like he's just
really like really phonally ingratiating himself yes exactly trying to really oh it's so
great i love doing everything i'm amenable to whatever man it's fucking the d word it's
always the dude were desperate. He's desperate as
hell. Like the whole fucking moment he walks in
and he's just like, please like me. Please fucking
like me. Free vacation to Greece.
Which is also like, that's what I imagine a lot
of actors, professional otherwise, are in that
position, but those tapes don't get leaked.
And that's all I'm going to say. Yeah,
it's, it's
real. It was Biggs.
Biggs did it. Oh yeah, totally
dude. That one fucking time I
called him pie fucker on TV
and he never let me let it down.
You see, they all thought that I
because I was the loser of the film
would not have a career
but I have a career
I do like
yeah so he gets
as Chris said
sort of Homer Simpson
down the gorge
because they have him
in the stretcher
and they've pulled him up
the hill off the pond
and then he falls back down it
and lands it flips
it hits a snowbank
and flips over
and he lands face first
on the ice which is really brutal
he's also Dusty Dingleman
has changed his name
to Dusty Lee
I guess he's got a stage name
as an EMT
I guess that's the idea
I mean like Dinkleman dude
wouldn't you
Thinkleman, Tinkleman, stinkleman, it's all right there.
It's got to be something there.
I mean, like, also, I was distracted, and I assume it's his real hair.
The hair is weird, right?
It's like, it's like Neil Diamond desk.
What is that?
Yeah, it's a, it's, it's colored a little different.
He's got some, like, highlights in there, and it is just styled.
Curlier than usual with him.
It's just very, he was just one of those dudes that, like, from American Pie on, for most movies you saw him in,
He just had the same haircut.
But yeah, it's a weird do on him.
And he's like, we should say Amy Smart, if she has a character, which she doesn't,
she has a prize to be won.
And that's all she does.
Is like studying to be a teacher.
And that's why they're playing with the kids.
Right.
And like she's like got this.
She's just moved back to home while she's going to school.
And she also substitutes.
That's why she's at the bar.
Right.
And like, so this guy, Dinkleman's like, oh, you're back in town, Jamie.
Hey, how's it going?
like she's like oh you don't have a bad wig and fake bad skin so you look like Chris
Klein right now that's great yeah there is he has the line of like oh yeah the skin cleared
up or whatever but when you see him in the flashback his face looks like Kevin Spacey's
chest and paid for yeah it's not know what affliction it's not just like teen acne or whatever
this dude's got an affliction yeah it's bad bad news I do like the gag here of they're
going to the hospital and the ambulance and he Chris Klein is
flirting with
Amy Smart
over Ryan Reynolds
and like he's fucking like
oh get your number
yeah you can sign it
and he like drops the clipboard
like on his crotch
so she can write the number
there's some good little physical beats
in here so now he's got a rival
and he's going to try and outdo the rival
and like this is when he's like
oh she likes the sensitive thing
so I'll be the biggest pussy that ever lives
oh right if she wants Mr. Rogers
I'm going to show her the biggest pussy
out there is a line he does to Clark
because he's getting his veneers
re-put in all his teeth
re-put in. There's the
quick scene where the brother
is trying to get with
Samantha here. Yeah.
She's just like sitting around like, oh my God,
I'm so fucking horny.
And then she's like, wait, how old are you?
And he's like, oh, I'm...
He does the whole like, oh, I'm a
22, 20, 19.
I'm 18 years old. And she's like,
18.
Too old for Megan Kelly. Good enough.
for me.
She're not 16, I'd be more entice.
And she's doing like, oh, my back is
killing me. And he's like, oh, I could give you a massage.
And then she does this great. She takes
her clothes off and when the shirt drops, she goes,
oops, I'm naked.
She is so fucking funny.
Yeah, and it's just, this is like a scene out of an
American pie thing. We're getting fucking baby oil all over the place.
It's like a whole thing. Very American pie-esque.
For sure.
But it's broken up. Chris comes home.
Ryan Reynolds comes up.
This is where he's fighting with the brother.
This is one where I was like,
this is some like WWE fight coordination
because the kid is like bent over something.
Ryan Reynolds like stomp kicks this kid's lower back.
And I was like, whoa, that better be movie magic
because you just paralyze that guy.
Next scene he's in a wheelchair.
Thanks.
But yeah, he's going to take her to see,
here goes a big joke, everybody, the notebook.
Oh my God, dude.
That was a huge thing at the time, right?
Oh, you have turned back your clocks to remember the notebook sweeping the nation.
Oh, yeah, which I think was just the year before.
It's 2004, I think.
Here's the weird thing, though.
And the guys didn't like the notebook so much, you understand?
It was the gals that enjoyed the notebook.
But some of the guys knew if you took the gals to the notebook that love might blossom,
what was it being a very romantic and sad film?
Here's the thing, though.
I got no problem with people liking the notebook.
I think it's fine.
Balled my eyes out the one time I was.
I was like, why?
Why?
Why?
Why is it that so many people are going to see the notebook on Christmas Eve.
Well, Christmas is, why is anyone doing anything?
I mean, again, because he calls her up and he's like, hey, I know it's Christmas Eve.
You got any plans?
Like, nope.
I'm like, you're at home for Christmas.
You're in your family house.
Like, we're doing something.
You live with your parents.
What's dad doing?
That's true that her family has like the insane Christmas display.
He's Christmolding.
Yes.
they're either going to Aunt Mary's
house or Aunt Mary's going to their
house. Something's going on around Christmas.
Where's Aunt Mary is what I'm asking? That's my question.
And I'm not saying I'm surprised
that people are going to the movies on Christmas Eve.
I am aware not everyone celebrates Christmas
but I am mainly
just curious about the film
curation for the day. That's all I'm saying. It's very
weird. You just have this big
tear-jurker romantic drama
on Christmas Eve.
Jimmy Stewart here. What do you
made you show in the notebook and not it's a wonderful life.
What do you mean?
Yeah, I'm calling you from hell.
I'll box your ears.
Me and Ronnie are here, and we're just wondering what the hell you're doing up there.
There's one thing that's happening tonight, and it's my character, George Bailey, pulling down
the fucking moon, you understand?
You got that fucking James Garner off there.
Al-Chybers for Christmas.
Outrage!
Whatever her name was, married to Cassavetties, that guy smoked way too much.
It's coming from me, you see.
Could you also put on Kings Row for Ronnie?
He was so good in that.
picture. Rollins, that's her name. Friends owned me. You want to see the man who shot
Liberty Valz? The man who shot you. You don't play? It's Christmas. It's Christmas for
Christ, thanks. And here we go. There's more, we're watching the notebook. So the whole thing
here is, A number one, his brother gets an F-bomb, right? This is when he's, I think this is
when he's like, I'm going to see the notebook with Jamie. And he calls the brothers on the phone
and he gives him a full-on F-bomb here, I believe. With the full T. Jamie's like,
because she can look here with a-oh, that's fun. But now we're watching the
Well, actually, we-
So, yeah, so she shows up.
He's like, a pick-me-up.
We'll go to the movies.
She shows up the house, immediately hitting off with the mother.
So that's a good sign.
But then, uh-oh, who else is here?
But fucking Chris Klein, he comes in.
Yeah, here's Dinklman.
He's coming along.
Because when he has called Jamie to invite her on the date,
Dinkleman calls in.
And she's like, oh, hang on, I got a call on the other line.
It's Dinkleman.
So clearly she's like, hey, Dinkleman, I'm going to the movies.
Like, let's go.
then just doubling the awkwardness
a fucking Brandon Walsh moment happens
where the mother's accidentally invited along
so now Julie Haggerty's coming
now you're watching the notebook with your mother in the theater
because everyone's leaving Julie Haggerty alone on Christmas
it's pretty fucked up like poor lady
crazy where is we hear what happened to the husband
no we don't know is it a widow is it
probably he mentions at the start of the movie
oh that's why they get divorced oh divorce okay
and a cigarette situation
yep he's still
looking for it. He also sends the brother
out to take
what's her name, Anna Farris to do an open
mic so that like she can
rediscover her artistic spirit and it's supposed to
be like at this coffee house open mic but
uh oh it's now a metal
yes the coffee the coffee house has been turned into
a metal that everyone is at
on Christmas Eve again yeah
and they all hate her
for not playing metal
it's like why that
joke just doesn't work on a
fundamental like believability level
because, like, she wouldn't hit the stage.
It would never happen.
You're at a metal club.
You walk out with a fucking acoustic guitar.
The metal club is closed for Christmas.
It's Christmas Eve.
No one's open for fucking Christmas Eve.
Oh, sorry, yeah, the foundry's closing that.
We're all home with our families who we love very much.
We don't know what you're doing here.
I mean, look, there might be the alcoholic metal guy, like, drinking at the bar.
That's it.
Maybe they're...
Well, spider's always there.
Yeah.
Spider is always there.
It is packed with people.
Yes, to the gills.
Like fucking Mastodon was playing.
So we're, we're...
watching the notebook and he's
not into it because he's a guy's guy,
a regular dude. But this is like
and now this is something I think out of, you'd find
it in like an early Sandler movie. He's sitting
there watching the movie and just out
loud to himself, he's like, oh,
the notebook is so gay.
And then he looks and two dudes
are making out during the movie.
And then they both sort of turn around and look at
him. They don't say anything, but it's just like,
gay. Yes. And I'm like, what
is happening here? The year was
2000 and fucking five. But the
fucking train is coming off the track
in this scene. This is outrageous.
So yeah, he's like
he notices that in the
it is the tear
jerker moment of that movie when she
has the moment of clarity through the
dementia and she's
where have I been and he's like
we got a hug now, baby. She's like
well how long did it last last? Oh, it's only the
better part of five minutes. It's like
it's fucking heartbreaking and so
like this cock and got a jacket itself. We've got five
minutes. Get going before you forget who I am and it's
weird again.
Jerk me off before it's against the law again.
I had no idea it was so adult.
Oh, yeah.
One last time, my tulip.
Yeah, this is not your mother's notebook.
X, X, X, X.
So, like, in that moment, like, Jamie is all upset and she grabs Chris
Klein's hand and Ryan Reynolds goes, hey, respect my authority.
But then, like, Julie, the joke is Julie Haggetty grabs his hand.
And she's like, oh, peanut.
That's all you can't have you see the notebook with your mom.
I forgot by now he's got a retainer back in because of the
something with the teeth getting them fixed.
Oh, the stitches.
To make him like look like a loser again.
Are they got the voice again?
On the drive back, Dusty is like chastising his usage of the retainer because he's got it out.
It's just like, oh, you know, it's so the human mouth is so many germs and this.
And Amy Smart is he goes, put it back in.
Yes.
Like everyone in the car hates him.
They're disgusted.
Like, you know how much germs you're spreading around the car right now?
There is the quick shot of Samantha getting booed off the stage.
They throw a fucking bottle at her head or whatever.
But, yeah, so we drop everybody off.
And then it's like, oh, gee, this is Julie Haggardie.
He's like, does everybody want to come in for Coco?
And Chris Klein declines, but the rest of them go inside for some cocoa.
And this is like, again, because, like, there isn't a person behind these eyes, you see,
with this Ryan Reynolds character.
So we're watching the scene
where they are watching home movies
and so we're paying for the fat suit.
We got some fat suit footage here.
Thank God.
And we're just like having a good time or whatever.
And he's like kind of starting to smile.
And I'm like, but is this like sociopath stuff again?
Exactly.
Do you remember the good, do you literally remember?
Because I think that they even go out
at some point they're listening to old music.
Yeah, he finds the, he's like the old mixtape or whatever.
And then I do like that their mixtape has the Mortal Kombat Technos on.
on it. That's pretty funny. They're laughing about it.
And then like, is this when they, is this
the, uh, almost sex, but
isn't sex, right? We get the, uh, it's
like Christmas morning or whatever. And he's got the
card for her. All right. With like he, this is
where we are revealed. He's got this
one of, uh, maybe it's the date. Maybe it's
January 95. Yeah. And he's got the
manifesto. Here's all the reasons to love Jamie.
100 reasons that Jamie rules. And he, yeah, there it is. And he puts it in
the Christmas card and he goes over to the house, which
It's like, dude, did you not learn anything from the yearbook fiasco 10 years ago, man?
And don't be springing this to be on Christmas?
Absolutely not.
Yeah, good point, actually.
Don't ruin my Christmas with this friend's own shit.
Aunt Mary only makes the fucking pork rolls once a year.
And I don't want Aunt Mary's pork roll memory to be fucking wrapped in with the memory of you being weird on Christmas with that letter.
But yeah, so the big plot point here is he tells the brother like, oh, hey, I'm going over to Jamie's.
make sure you keep Samantha distracted
blah blah blah because she's like sleeping still
and so when he leaves we see Anna Ferris wakes
her eyes wake up like she overheard the whole thing
or whatever
so like point of embarrassment here
the brother left the windows down in his cool car
so he can't drive so he's got to take
a bike over and he goes over there
and wouldn't you know it there's Chris Klein
singing Christmas tunes with his acoustic guitar
just this room is just enraptured
and staring at him or whatever
and you see Ryan Reynolds
and he's like kind of mopey
and he puts the card on the table
and kind of slinks away
and I was like again though
is this sociopath shit
or are you feeling bad in this moment?
And somewhere
Julie Haggerty has made a beautiful ham
that no one's either
like no one's there
nobody's even slapping it
no one's slapping the ham
no one's even appreciating it
well the younger brother's busy
slapping his own hand
oh that's true
oh right right right yeah
but nobody in the fucking
in the Amy Smart House
nobody's in the kitchen
everybody's out to listen
to Chris Klein. I'm like, this is a bigger
family. Of course it's fucking smoke coming out
the fucking place. And this is, this is wild
though, because he finishes whatever the Christmas
Carol is that he sings.
It's a religious one.
And then they're like, oh,
encore, encore, and he's like, okay, yeah, sure,
I'll do an encore. And I'm like, all right, cool, Frost's the Snowman,
Jingle Bell, maybe Jingle Bell Rock
if you want to get nuts. Sure.
Here's my Jamie Palomino's song.
Oh, God, no, not on fucking Christmas.
Shills me to my bones.
Yeah.
She's just someone sang a song that they wrote about you
And they sang it to you in front of other people
Not sanctioned, not a sanctioned Christmas event
And she
Not in any time sanctioned event, frankly
Everyone's kind of into it
I think he calls Clark at this point
And is like, what am I going to do?
Is it, come on man, you're not the same guy from high school
You got to get in there and like tell her how you feel or whatever
Remember dude like it's just dusty dinkleman
He fucking sucks.
It's old stinkleman man.
you don't like that guy, you're better than dusty.
It's just dinkleman, dinkleman, dinkleman, dinkum, and then they, like, go out on the outside to do, like, Christmas caroling, I assume, or something.
Which is a weird, we're going out on our own front lawn, turning around to face our own house, and singing those Christmas carols to our empty house.
Yeah.
Because it's the, because here's where Anna Ferris comes in, and she drives the car over the snowbank onto the yard, and she fucking knocks down all the Christmas decorations.
So this is this is the house with the dad's prized grease.
I think maybe the town gathers because they've got the best Christmas display or something because a priest is there.
Oh, right. Yes. Everyone's there to enjoy it.
One of the real laughs I got out of this movie was Anna Ferris getting out of that car and the priest like touches her or whatever.
Yeah. Get off me, God boy. God boy.
And this is somewhere in the development process. Somebody looked at the script and like, well, where's the Christmas freak out?
This is a Christmas movie. You need.
A Christmas vacation-esque, big, I mean, like, deck the halls we just did, there's a big old Christmas.
We love, if there's a big Christmas, quote-unquote comedy, you need the Christmas freak out, whether it makes sense or not.
No, and here, yeah, this is the fucking, the Yuletide disaster right here is like, Anna Ferris just gets back in the car to speed off.
And then the car gets like light cables wrapped around it.
Yeah.
And she drives off and it takes everything with it and fires starch.
Yeah.
As Santa burns to death
The, you know, the display.
Yeah, not the real guy.
Who's coming tonight?
Three are dead tonight after a pop star, Samantha Drones.
I mean, they would burn Santa as a witch if they could.
That would be amazing, right?
He's got dark magic.
Maybe that happened.
Copyright, we have movies.
This could be a movie we're going to make.
It's about Santa Claus in Salem going to say to reward people.
and then they capture them and burn them alive.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
It's a warlock.
Yes, exactly.
Day Christmas died.
I'll tell you what.
That's good.
And it sounds like something,
like a holiday horror,
like holiday haunt that I would watch
and it wouldn't be terrible.
And then you get like,
I guess for revenge for Santa,
you can even maybe one of the reindeer
is possessed by something or
get one of his like German friends.
Else for crying out loud.
Are we thinking?
Real dude, dude.
Eric, just a tough customer.
We're in the elevator.
I'm hearing your elevator pitch.
I'm enjoying your elevator pitch thus far.
I got off at the fourth floor, so you've got to be quick here.
I'm going to hit every button.
Shit!
Is this a thing, so Santa gets burned in the Salem, which trial times?
Yes.
Is he coming back for vengeance now?
Or is this...
That's interesting.
Or is this like around...
That's the sequel.
Oh, okay.
The sequel's present.
Oh, so wait, I got to watch this whole movie and Santa only gets burned at the stake at the end of it.
No, no, no.
It's like the wicker man.
Yeah, maybe it is.
Oh, God, no.
We're still working it out.
I got you.
It could go multiple ways.
Oh, it's a Santa Tale, though.
So it's called the Thicker Man.
The emergency exit button here on this elevator.
So Jamie goes over to Chris's sometime later, and she's like, I want to talk to the guy that wrote me this.
And she's got the manifesto.
And, you know, she's into it.
We're eating ice cream.
We're having a good time.
What she's asking is, are you the, what is going on in there, that brain?
Is there anything behind those dead eyes?
Is there anything in that fucking black heart of yours?
Like, what is going on?
Or are you trying to fuck me for sexual sport?
That's my question.
There is a funny thing where there's the big picture of him in the suit or whatever,
and he's got this hat on.
He's just like, does that hat make me look fat?
And it's a really unflattering angle with the fat suit chin and whatever.
It's kind of funny.
But this is when, like, I'm going to sleep over for Christmas.
And it's like, okay.
And she's like, where it is?
Like old time.
Yes.
Waring his shirt, the whole bit.
And like, it's the thing where like...
She presents.
She presents.
Pretty much.
If the, in a better, in any better movie, you can't just have voiceover in this scene.
Voiceover in this scene's insane.
It's correct.
Because you don't, that's the screenwriter admitting like, oh shit, I forgot to make a movie.
Not voiceover.
Internal monologue.
Exactly.
His thoughts right here.
I didn't know what you were saying.
Yeah.
You hear what he's thinking.
Am I going to sleep with you?
Jamie. And I was like, where'd that come from? Who said that?
Exactly. Because it doesn't make any sense.
You as the audience should know, like,
if he like, ooh, I'm not going to sleep with her because
blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. I should
know that from whatever. Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the last 80 minutes of the moon.
But what's crazy, I mean,
I'm sorry, you're in the situation.
She says she wants to sleep over.
And then she comes out the bathroom,
which, by the way, this kid's high school
bedroom, he's got a fucking onsuit.
Very nice. Brandon Walshask.
Totally.
Maybe Julie Haggerty is in one of the small bedrooms
He's got the master
Yeah you can have the bigger room hon
For 10 years
You are the bigger person
Yeah
Oh god
But she comes out that bathroom
And she's Donald ducking
Yeah of course
In his button down shirt
That's it man
The plane can land
Here it is
But no now he's got
His heart grew three sizes for Christmas or something
In a crazy turn
Okay so they don't sleep together
but in a crazy turn the next day
she's telling
it was it Darla
that she wanted him
to fuck her
and of course she did
the shirt, the Donald Ducking
the evidence was like but she
never wanted to until
that moment right
yeah right but there's also
this moment where she's in bed
and she's like my feet are cold
can you warm them
right the feet if you had any doubt
you know
there it is the old I'm cold
could you warm me up
ladies and gentlemen
footplay she wants you to piss on her
feet.
What I would love.
Wait a minute.
Oh my God, Ryan Reynolds.
One, yeah, it's very cold in here.
But two, I think my foot just got bit by a jellyfish.
Here, drink some water.
Drink some more water.
Drink some water.
Oh, sorry, that's dog semen.
How about some coffee?
Oh, I was from my friend Van Wilder.
Excuse me.
What I would do if I was Ryan Reynolds in the situation and I wanted to maybe like, you know, extend that, you know, I wasn't really into having sex of this moment because I'm afraid of the emotional impact.
I'd like, look, look, look.
I don't want our first time to be when I have to be really weird and quiet because my mom's downstairs.
Also true.
Can we be adults about this and like we'll make out a little bit?
We'll go to bed and I'll take you out a real date and we'll go to get a hotel or something.
That's reasonable.
But there's at least the thrill that he wanted to experience back in 95, which was the parents could come in at any second.
Which as an adult who has your own hotel room, that risk is much less.
My elderly mother that I just neglected on Christmas, I'm going to have a.
loud sex at her house.
Honey, are you fucking up there?
As long as you're happy, dear.
Knock, knock, knock.
Honey, I made you some ham sandwich.
Get on it.
Is anyone going to watch Christmas
story with me? Oh, fuck me.
Fuck me so good.
Guess not. Play.
There is, it's a weird thing where
because, again, I didn't know how this movie
ended and I was like, well, surely
time should be up by now. Why not?
I thought it was going to be a thing where in that moment
he did indeed realize, like,
Oh, like I can't get it up because, like, yeah, I actually do just care for her as a friend.
Yes. We are just friends. Yes, that'd be actual insight. No, that's not happening. No. He goes to Clark. Like, yeah, you're right, Eric. Like, she goes to Darla. He goes to Clark. They're kind of having a back and forth. Why, what happened there? Darla, of course, because we needed to get one more. And she's like, maybe he's gay. I don't know.
I had to get it right in there. And by the way, this, we separate off for the convo's here. This is now watching when Harry Metz out. Yeah. Oh, right.
This is exactly what happened.
We didn't do it.
They didn't do it.
They didn't do it.
Nobody was fucking on Christmas.
And there needs to, this is a complication this we absolutely doesn't need is like he's talking to Clark about, you know, I don't know.
I like, I like, I like, what are I supposed to do?
I'm going to.
And reasonably is like, what we're going to fuck.
And then I'm going to go back to L.A.
And she's going to stay here.
And then what happens?
Yeah.
Dinkleman shows up to be a cad of some kind and he's been playing the long game.
And I'm like, this isn't this movie.
Because this dentist.
He's like feeling up a nurse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because the dentist.
has his dentist office at the hospital
where Chris Klein's always coming in because he's an EMT
and yeah he's like feeling up some nurse and tongue kissing her
and he's also playing the same song
that he said was for Jamie but he's now just putting this
woman's name and he now needs to
Ryan Reynolds does save her from this other
sexual revenge guy which he literally says sweet
revenge for keeping us in the friend zone
all these years
which I guess like the idea is like oh it's a dark
reflection of Ryan Reynolds he's going to learn something
sure not really no it's just I gotta beat that guy
yes I have to win it's well it is very something not Mary
which I love about that movie I want to rewatch that movie
I don't know if it holds up oh really okay is that right
it's been I think
it's been it's been at least
20 years like that's the funniest part about that movie is when
Ben Stiller realizes all these freaks are exactly him
like all these other dudes that have been like
yeah obsessing about her for a year
years, oh, that's, I'm
just as bad as Chris Elliott, I'm just as
whomever, you know what I'm like, that is
that's real, that's real heart
to that. That's the thing is that with
a lot of those Farley Brothers movies
from the area, yes, they have the language
you don't so much like. Yes, there's some
gross out things that go a little too far, but they
all have heart and they made a point to
do that. Right. What's bonkers
about this too is like the dentist friend
is literally driving him to the airport
here. And we have a
jerk the wheel. Jesus.
to get to turn around and go back
but like the jerking the wheel
to come back to town thing is
just for the you're going to go
to the door you're going to say oops
I was a jerk I loved you and then
the movie's over no there's 20 minutes left
this is this whole thing we're going to this church
where Chris Klein is doing a children's
sing along by the way Christmas is in the rear view
this was a Christmas movie by the way
take two yeah and so we're at the church
and so he comes in and it's like what are you doing
here man you can't be here and he's like
dragging Amy Smart by the hand
like I gotta talk to you
we're gonna go back to the rectory here
and he keeps Chris Klein is now
just do a totally different character
like every time she turns her baggues
yeah he's behind her back scumbagging
while he's like playing the guitar and shit
yeah and it boils over and
Ryan Reynolds Chris just tackles him
because this is another kind of Christmas movie
Christmas comedy tropes specifically
there has to be a fight where someone goes over a table
or a big thing gets knocked down with people
I do think Chris Klein
has a good line read of what are you doing
this is a Christmas concert for children
that's great
but yeah
so it's just
he's looking bad there and then he's going to go
fucking get wasted
dragged out by the townspeople
and even the kids
the kids by the way who are the end of this movie
which is insane yeah that's that's
they have these three kids and one's like you should
date him he's been a dinkleman
he's so much rude for dusty
dusty we'll get to those kids in a moment
shut the fuck up kids you don't know what's going on so he's getting drunk at a bus stop with tim the burned out jock
and he's going to get out of town and why can't julie haggerty drive him because you know why
her fucking oldest child ditched her on christmas man she's like you know what you can eat my ass deer
i'm not driving you anywhere fair uh he's drinking he's drinking with the other guy the bald dude
yeah you're drinking with tim at the bus stop and uh he gets on the bus and i do love this he's got the
open bottle on the bus. He's like, hey, Mr.
bus driver, man. And the bus goes
10 feet and stops and he gets jazzy
jeffed off it. Very funny. In front of the
barn, where Jamie works
and it's like, oh,
and now Chris Klein is setting up for
an open mic there or whatever.
This guy and his acoustic guitar are real busy
around this town. I'll tell you what, man.
Yeah, but yeah, he's
getting shot down here. Dusty
shoots a shot and she
says, I think you're charming and sweet,
but I just don't have those feelings for you.
also you've been doing all these jerk off moves behind me
I know I have eyesight I can see those
I guess you thought I didn't see it when you did that
in the church but I mean it's a rectory
it was really small I saw it it's clear as day
I felt the wind of your hand jacking off behind me
my hair moved and I was like that's feverish
he's got the scariest line of the movie here this dusty fella
I worked really hard on that song what kind of girl would you be
if you didn't put out for the guy who wrote you a song
oh right which I guess that's
this movie finally telling you that's not you aren't expected to have sex question mark right
yeah uh and he's being like nasty ryan reynolds here because he's drunk he drunkenly like harasses
her he calls her a tease on the loud speaker and does a mic drop oh right this yeah the microphone
it's insane and then have fun being the girl who peaked in high school and then he just goes back
to los angeles and then we have scenes in los angeles yes that's an insane thing that we get we get back to
Los Angeles and there's like, that's a
nuclear thing. That's the girl who picked
in high school. And you called her a tease
in front of her at her job.
And second of all, we go to Los
Angeles, here's Stephen Routtson.
You're fired. And then he is like,
oh man, I hated making
all that soulless corporate music.
I'm going to do something else.
I'm going to move back to New Jersey.
Sure. Whatever. Get a teaching degree. I'm going to become a
snow globe entrepreneur.
Exactly. That's the way
a movie has to work. Instead, it's
Anna Ferris had broken into his house
while he was away and is like
living there and wants to
be with them. Like a fucking squirrel.
Like what the fuck? Jesus.
She tasers his nuts.
Oh, yeah. That's a lot of play. It's a lot of fun these days.
Yeah, don't tase me, bro.
I do love so. Now that's an old
pre-endid. It was during the internet, but
not when the internet was quite pre- YouTube,
you understand. You'd go on E-Bomb's
world to watch a video. That was
Uber. E-Bomb was a man that held
and kept humorous videos for you to watch in a curated fashion.
If that's not your fancy, you could always head on over to you're the man now, Don.
And I don't mean to piss anybody off here, but that was E, B, A, U.M, not B-O-M-B.
It was a crazy time.
MySpace was in retrograde, and the ascension of Tumblr had just begun.
But wouldn't you know it, kids, there were some villains out there on the internet.
You went to www.
dot rotten.com
and you would see the worst humanity
had to offer, including
Tupac's autopsy photos
and also the Chris
Farley crime scene photo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing the Chris Farley one.
I don't know if the
Tupac thing was fake, but that was something that
rotten.com presented to me back
in the day. I hope they're out of business.
I'm sure. I'm sure it's long gone. But yeah, he gets
too much competition, Eric. There's a funny
gag. Like, he gets, when he gets to the house,
he throws a wad of cash at the cab driver
he throws his suitcase like off a balcony and it clearly like goes through the sunroof of a car which is pretty funny and he's walking around the house he sits down and when he sees anna ferris's uh guitar it does a dolly zoom on him which is very funny and he realizes she's in the house yeah and it's like they have like a blow up because he's like i was never into you and again like it would be kind of cool if he was just like look you're just not for me you know what i mean if you could get into some sort of reasonable place he's he's he's he's
presented as like this player character, but he can't talk to
any of these women. No. No. In any
way whatsoever. And he can't
imagine that she's a person. Exactly. It will not
enter his brain. You're going to make some guy really happy. Like so many
guys would want to be the me, but it's just not for me. My little brother
for one. Exactly. Whatever. But now. I thought that was also
going to be something was like, of course he gets with Amy Smart, but then the
brother gets with Anna Farris maybe. Sure. I do, she does have a funny
line where she's like, yeah, we're going to make this record. I've been
reworking the song. It's so great. We can be
this powerhouse producer
artist relationship. We can
be like Jessica Simpson and her father
except we can have sex with each other.
She says they can't legally
They can't, they can't legal because there's laws
Whatever it is. Yeah, it's so funny
It's a very funny. I believe
she calls him Santa's little
horror, which is kind of funny
I guess. But Stephen Root needs to be
like, and you're fired boy or whatever.
More Stephen Root. That is a
note for everybody. You go to Jersey, dude.
You open up a studio there. You
start working on the jersey sound kind of music again.
Jersey sound.
Hell yeah.
Get some Jersey boys in there.
Or he goes to New York.
You know what I mean?
It's close enough.
I could be here on the weekend.
Whatever.
I'm at the forefront of vapor wave.
I know all the musics.
And, you know, he goes to the house and just does the whole like,
I realized, you know, I'd rather have you in my life as a friend than not have you in
my life at all.
And they start making out because that's the end of the movie.
and that's that's what you're going to do
somebody who's just like oh we need the end of the movie
oh here's one page that that's like the end
of the movie is one page because it's like they just
start making out and then you see the next
door neighbor it's the three kids
and you see what's going on here is like
the one girl like sort of
shares it's like a cookie or something with like the one
kid the little kid the nerdy kid
gives the girl here and Melissa
here's my cookie and then she's like
hey Bradley do you want my cookie
half my cookie and it's like oh no
yeah and then the kid is like oh wow I guess I'm in the
friend zone and then he looks at the camera oh yeah and like that's the end of his movie is this kid to an
oh no like Jason coming back out of the water
friend zone has returned it's crazy and the fact that he gets with jamie and they make out and
I want to have babies with you that's all you had to say marry and have babies with you
well this is also the end of movie this is the problem with most quote unquote friend zone
scenarios at the end because you've been in this psychotic relationship with
this woman for years and you're on you've been dating for years and she's like let's have our
very first date that's weird you know what I mean like yeah yeah uh all right I'm gonna have to
dig back in my memory to our fake first date that I gave us and see you uh no we're getting married
we're gonna get married and have kids I mean frankly that is a bit much it is that should
spook her all over again like oh no it's terrified I'm just getting my teaching degree I'm living at
home right now. I want to get some shit together.
Like, let's get some coffee and fuck around.
I'm usually not really pro-gun, but Jamie,
get a gun. Jamie's
got a gun. For protection.
That's all. Yeah.
But yeah, and then the end of this
is just him
singing, I swear, by one
for all. Right, throughout the entire
credits. My milkshake
brings all the boys to the yard. Yeah, where did
we see some fat suits singing? Not a few
years before this Chris Cabin. Boy, you
are totally right there. I hadn't even thought about that.
Not an original bone in this movie's buying.
Oh, man.
And it just, it can't even be bothered to care about Christmas,
which I really thought this was a Christmas movie.
Christmas,
nope.
Christmas, ironically, is just a little bit of a decoration on this movie.
It's not really, you know, whatever.
But that's why we're doing this so many weeks before Christmas.
Right, exactly.
It's the least Christmas of the movies.
Yes, you're right.
But that is the end of Just Friends.
We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts and I guess possible recommendations,
Mr. Siska.
Oh, my God.
It is a heartwarming.
Christmas classic.
No, no.
Yeah, no, it's not very good.
It's, it's, you know, a lot of these, these comedies of this ilk is just, yeah, they're
minefields today and this is no exception.
I did not enjoy rewatching this for my second time in five years.
Well, yeah, I mean, uh, yeah, I, I, of course, the language is abhorrent and all that.
But like, more than that, this movie is just like mean-spirited.
Yep.
but also like very forgiving
to everything Ryan Reynolds does
because the world is after him
and he's going to destroy him
right that drives me
those kinds of movies
drive me crazy in general
and this one is no different
and I do I wish at some point
we understood who he was
not happening clearly
I'm not sure
I would have to think
I guess that definitely maybe
is the only time I was like
oh Ryan Reynolds is playing a human
oh wow
that's one where he's the dad
political consultant
and he's like talking about
all the women he's been with
in his life
how you met my
mom or whatever. It was Abigail Breslin's
little girl maybe? That sounds right. I don't know. Yeah, you're probably
uh, but like, he can do
the person thing. He just
didn't think it would work. And this early
on, it just, uh, all
fucking Hansa Anna Ferris for like
getting something out of this. Yeah,
best part of the movie. Oh, and I should
a little story. Uh, my
father-in-law
went on a date with Julie Haggerty and still
talks about his day. I would too.
Yeah. What are you kidding me? That was
literally. Uh, man. So you say that.
I'd go a day with Julie Haggerty tomorrow, honestly.
What is she doing?
Did she get a lot?
I'm pretty sure she's still.
Oh, come on.
No.
While you look that up.
Yes, thank you.
There are some movies, you know, we're not being comedy purists here.
Like, certainly obviously, like things don't age.
And comedy is the thing that does, I think, rightfully change quite a bit.
What we allow and what we accept should progress.
But that doesn't necessarily mean the comedy of that.
era has to go on the shelf. Like, airplanes
got some stuff about it that you wouldn't be crazy
about. Blazing Saddles, for example.
Like, uh, you know, and just
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Animal house.
Animal house, my God.
There's all these things and like what you could
accept in one of those movies you may not want to accept
in the other, et cetera. But it's just
the ethos of this. We rot into the core
and the fact that it's not very funny. It's also
like, and it's not funny because, oh, you use
that word. It's not funny. It's like, it's
not funny and you use that word.
It's kind of where we're coming from here.
And I think, yeah, Ryan Reynolds is just, I've never been the world's biggest fan.
Like, I literally, I kind of only like him in those dead, the first two dead people movies,
the third one not being it.
But that's kind of where I'm at with my boy, Rai, rye.
By the way, Julie Haggerty very much still alive.
All right, so very much still just, very much.
Just working.
She's got three episodes of Matlock under her belt, which is 24.
Oh, she was in, that's right, she was in the abysmal Netflix comedy, the Outlaw.
If anybody...
I did not see that.
Dude, Chelsea and I struggled
to get through that fucker.
Was that a Christmas joint or...
No, it's Pierce
Brosnan and
Ellen Barkin are like
the parents of
the girl who
Adam Devine is going
to be married to
and it's like
their spies or assassins
or something.
It's the movie
where I had first like seen
Adam Devine
like star in something I think
where he was the guy
and like the intense
Dan Aykroyd energy that that guy was given off and I mean that in a negative way actually
was like unsettling to me sure but she's in this she's been in stuff but anyway yeah Julie yeah
well Julie if you're listening tell Julie if someone knows Julie that I want to how about come to
New York we'll have a date with all of us yeah yeah all compete for you oh that sounds like a
fun with a date with Julie Haggerty give her a rose and she can give it to who she likes uh look at
this though coming up for Julie Haggerty by the way next year she's in the
new M. Night movie.
Yeah. Hell yeah.
Jake Gyllenhaal.
I can't wait. Julie.
Yes, she's fifth build, according to IMDB.
Love that. Cannot wait.
Anyway, with this movie, yeah, as far as
like, you know, we're doing movies for the holiday season, of course.
This is a movie that just, it could be
fucking said at any holiday, and it wouldn't matter.
Chris has nothing to do with this.
So a little bit of a deception there.
I didn't appreciate that.
I will say something. We haven't said a lot,
because she's not much of a character here. I like Amy Smart.
I've always liked Amy Smart and stuff.
don't see her a lot these days
but you know again it was like 05 like the odds
that was she was part of that acting
class that was of that time
and you know I was liked her in things
one of these days we will get to crank
I swear
I swear we'll get there
and she will be there
and we'll talk quite a lot about what she has to go through
and so while I don't
I'm not going to recommend this movie
it is just like like I said
it's wrapped in amber it's of its time
it is more watchable
than I'm trying to find the title of it
because I just want to make sure it's right
and there's so many just Deadpool special features
that he's listed as starring in on his fucking IMDB.
Sure.
My God, where is it now?
Very Deadpool Christmas.
No, oh, here it is.
Spirited, the not great Christmas.
So this movie is more watchable than that.
Is it?
Oh, I mean, I've been spirited.
It's terrible.
That's terrible.
What is better the, I want to be Jim Carrey, Ryan Reynolds,
or I'm just Deadpool all the time, Ryan Reynolds?
I think it's the second one.
I think it is because that pretty guy sucked so bad.
But at least it's like that's, you're doing your thing, dude,
and you're not trying to rip off gym or other people.
But I mean, this spirit, it's a musical Christmas movie.
It's him and Will fucking Farrell together.
It at least is definitely soaked in Christmas.
But man, that was a hard watch too.
So pick your Ryan Reynolds holiday entertainment accordingly is what I'm saying.
But that is going to do it for this episode.
As always, if you want more we hate movies, including shows like this one,
but without commercials, head over to Patreon.
Patreon.com slash We Hate Movies
where, yes, this month, we are going to be going
holiday crazy as much as we can
here. Do we have, yes,
the AD, Steve Sadec, what do we got going on
for that guy? We just did Frosty
the Snowman, the 1969
animated special,
Rankin and Bass Joint. Hell yeah.
Great, great little episode there.
I forgot about the magician.
We actually went about an hour, so
not very little episode, a big, honk
and stinking one for your holidays.
We've got a similar big honking one for once in a lifetime.
We have Hot Frosty.
That's right.
The movie, Everybody knows, I guess.
The Netflix movie, Hot Frosty, where the girl wants to fuck Frosty the Snowman.
Yes.
If you heard our live episode or you were there in Boston when we performed the show on Pretty Woman, I think we talked about Hot Frosty for like a third of that set.
Yeah, sounds right.
So it's all there.
So both Hot Frosty and Frosty the Snowman, AD, those will be out next week.
if you're listening to this on the day it comes out that is which is December the 2nd
just two days from now the 4th not Christmas at all but that's okay this month's
WLM because the new one's coming out you guessed it avatar the way of water that will come
out this Thursday we have different holidays it's not the same yeah
an avatar holiday different holidays on Pandora day yeah there you go I'm waiting for some
sort of Star Wars holiday special esk holidays on Pandora dog shit the rear its ugly head one of
these days. Speaking of Star Wars, we have our Star Wars
Shide show, the big glossary
where this month where, you know, we're getting
the family back together. We talked about Gavin
Darklighter at the season 16
premiere, but now we are talking
about Biggs Darklighter, who's a
relative, and
it's a spirited
conversation. On Melro
210, we're doing a double
duty of Melrose place. That's right.
Because in two
episodes time, they were doing a
Christmas-themed Christmas
Carol kind of deal.
So we're like, you know what?
We're just going to do two Melrose place.
And the next month, we'll do 902 and0.
So a big double duty of Melrose place this month on Melro 210.
And the cool thing that it's nice that this sort of works out that way, Steve, because
the Melro 2102 in January, not only will it be two 90210s, but it is the two parter
of them graduating high school.
So big deal there.
And of course, at the end of the month, we're talking the 29th folks.
It's a Monday.
get ready for our final commentary
of the year. The King of Congmentary.
Oh, man. Us going back to the world of nonfiction
is always a lot of fun. We haven't recorded it yet,
but Billy Mitchell is going to get eviscerated.
Hell yeah.
But as always, of course,
that's all the Patreon stuff, but of course
the Tuesday show, which is also available
on the free feed with commercials, but on the
Patreon commercial free. We'll roll on next week.
Our holiday programming is just getting started.
Steve, things are getting a little spooky next week.
guy here. That's right, but still in the Christmas season
because we're talking about crampus.
Oh, yeah. Now, because there's so
many crampus and crampus adjacent
movies, this is the one that's just
called crampus and Adam Scott
is in it. Tony Colette, Adam Scott.
That's the one you want, folks. I know there's a lot of
holiday jingle ball garbage
out there in the horror world. So
that is the crampus you want. Next week
we're going to be talking all about it. Until then, I've been
Andrew Juppin. Stephen Zaid. Eric Siska.
Take it easy.
Thank you.
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