We Hate Movies - S16 Ep840: Tron: Ares (2025)

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

“I love the music though…” - EricOn this week’s episode, we’re chatting about the sequel nobody had a hankering for, Tron: Ares! Why do we keep giving Jared Leto chances? Couldn’t they have gone a few more rounds with that script? Why on Earth did we need that ghostly cameo? Is it worth watching these movies sober? Can an amazing soundtrack carry a film all on its own? And how do you not get Bruce Boxleitner a check for this somehow? PLUS: Josh Gad playing the Grid’s seedy porn program guy? Why not?  Tron: Ares stars Jared Leto, Greta Lee, Evan Peters, Jodie Turner-Smith, Gillian Anderson, Hasan Minhaj, Arturo Castro, Cameron Monaghan, Sarah Desjardins, and Jeff Bridges as Ghost Flynn or something; directed by Joachim Rønning.Grab your tickets now for the first leg of the 2026 tour! We’ll be in Los Angeles on 2/22, Minneapolis on 3/20 and Chicago on 3/22—don’t wait, snag those tix now!Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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We're talking Tron Aries. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen underscore SADAC. Tron Eric. A Chris, some God thing. Yeah, Greek thing. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that works. And we hate movies.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. That's right. this month on the program it's all movies we watched last year including this one Tron Airy as well movies from last year a couple of us watched this

literally this week but from 2025 directed by Joaquin Raining Chris Cabin is this the guy that did troll hunter That sounds right No it's not him no he's just some Disney hack I think is the idea Is that right? Let me pull it up Because I was looking this up he did

that last Pirates of the Caribbean movie as well Oh man Tell No Tales also. Oh, this is the, the, um, oh, uh, what's the one lady? Con Tiki. Contiki. That was it. That's the thing. He also did Maleficit Mistress of Evil, another Disney sequel. Yeah, he is just a Disney toad.

Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, everyone's got to have their role. He also did the young woman in the sea, which I did not see. Oh, is it the Daisy Ridley movie? Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They kind of buried that. Uh, got very limited. Also a Disney movie. Also a well, it's true. It's not. It's not. It's not.

a franchise so they don't like it. It's got to go away. It's okay to like a movie. I did see a bunch of scuttle butt that like, oh, this is just as bad as, or it's equal to the other Tron movies and I disagree completely. No, that's not it. I don't like. It's fine to

think that by the way. I can totally see why. I can absolutely see why especially because the crux of the story is just the last fucking 10 minutes of Tron legacy. Right. Well, the whole crux, the whole forward motion of this thing is What if folks, what if your AI chat GPT boyfriend tries to become alive?

That's sort of, yeah. Kill it. Kill it with fucking fire. That's probably the best move. I don't love any Tron movies. I like the first one. I think I liked it more the last time we watched it for the show last year. Oh, okay, I kind of get it.

I kind of enjoy it. Then I finally watched Tron Legacy because you guys have loved it for years. And I just do not like it at all. Don't hate it at all. Do not like it at all. Okay. Interesting. And then this one I absolutely hate. I absolutely despise this.

So that's how that goes. I love the first two trams. And then I'm not feeling this one too much. Yeah. The last one is Yeah, that's, I mean, that is really what brings this baby home is Trent Reznor is working on the score, therefore, good. And I love

Daff Punk's score for the legacy. I also love Legacy. And I just like the first one. Legacy is the one. I really, really, really go for. And I'm going to put a lot of that on the theater experience, Steve. Okay. That's probably, but I really do think that was one of the best theater experiences I've had in a long time.

And that's not even with the drugs. The drug is nice. Oh, sure. Drugs is very nice. My beef with legacy, aside from all the de-aging, which looks so bad. It's rough as funny.

In the cold light of day, it looks so. And this movie starts with de-aging, too. And I'm like, oh, no, it's back. with the little bit of bridges at the beginning, D.A. like, I'm on a talk show or something. My mouth's moving weird. No, wasn't that like a deleted thing or something?

I didn't think that was a computer. It's definitely, I think... It sounded weird. I think it's okay. Aside from that, that movie loses what I think is the dopey charm of the first movie. Like, there's a...

And dopey, not even duratively. Like, it's fun and it's sweet and it's cute. It's like nice. And that movie's like, grim. dark and whatever else is going on. It lost me. And then this is just absolutely, we'll talk about this for two hours.

I felt like the Trond Legacy is bright dark. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm in the pool for both of those, the first ones. I wasn't as hot. I think I probably vomited all this out on the, on the Tron episode we did, but I wasn't always hot on the first Tron,

but loved Legacy, like, from the jump. Yeah, maybe it was the drugs, but I've seen it since the drugs, and it's also been fun. I wondered if, because, you know, folks at home, a little inside baseball here, I tried to come to these proceedings with a modicum of professionalism,

which is to say, on days when we have to record shows that I'm introducing, I don't toke up. And so I was watching Tron Ares for the first time this morning, stone cold sober, and I wonder if that had something to do with it. I will say the two positives I will give this movie

and I will stand by it. I think it looks incredible. and I think the score and soundtrack, both Trent Resner and Nine Inch Nails, are incredible. But I don't think, I'm not going to lump them all, but there's a lot of the actors in this movie

who either don't fit in a movie like this, aren't prepared to be in a movie like this, or like just didn't want to be there. It's also a half-based screenplay. Yeah. That's, oh, I mean, I think that's all a problem that is next to the issue of Jerry. Letto. Jared Letto is an issue in and of himself. This is not good. It was, it hasn't been good for a very long time. And, uh, and like, at this point, I've heard enough of the cult, like rumors or whatever to be like, yeah, maybe we'd stop giving this guy money.

Uh, a problem. A cult rumors. Is that what you say? Yeah, a little cult. Yeah, he has a little bit of a cult. It's like a nexium type of thing. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. I thought that was the guy from Independence Day. Well, there's many. They're all fucking around. Yeah, it's not just one. And there's plenty of stories. This is not like out of the blue sky. If he's got long hair and he's in Hollywood, that's a red flag. You know something's going on. If you start having an orgy that lasts for more than three days,

you might just turn that into a cult. It just can careen very easily into a cult. Is that what happens? No, I'm just guessing. Oh, I'm just wildly speculating. He probably, yeah, no, he's a dude that looks like he's into grody group sex, dude. Right, exactly. Unlike that and unlike the last two films,

I don't think this movie is going to steer into the cult territory. I feel like this is just not great, folks. No, no. The Jared Lutter thing I want to underline a little bit. Just he is not the problem with this movie. He doesn't make it, he certainly doesn't make anything better. But it's the script, it's the ideation. I think it's the look too.

I don't think this looks fantastic either. Well, I think red does not look as good as blue. That's one problem here. I agree with that. I just, because people are like, He did Morbius and then he did this. It's like, these are bad projects because he's choosing bad projects because that's where his career is. Jared Leto Defender Stevens.

No, he's bad. He's bad. He is not making anything better. But he's not making these movies worse is what I'm saying. These are bad movies. He's a bad actor. And he's in a bad movie. It's all the same thing.

No, but I'm sorry, dude. If you replace him with Garrett Headland or whoever, I mean, Garrett Headland just because he's in the last movie. Another actor, it's going to be less bad. I agree with that. Some actors could make it worse. By degree, but not by kind. It would still be pretty goddamn bad. I think this movie's rotten to the core.

I don't think Jared Leto is the problem. I think he's awful and I'm not a big fan of his and he doesn't make Morbius good and Morbius is also bad. He's in bad movies because he's a bad actor and these are bad movies. All three can be true at the same time. It's not like this is a great movie that Jared Leto ruined. That idea I hate. That's a Blade Runner 24.

that's exactly correct. I do think there are actors that could have made this more bearable. I will put it to that. I do think there are plenty. The issue is also that all the side stuff sucks. Like, everybody want to talk to me about what the fuck Kassanmanage is doing here and what the fuck all that bullshit. I'll tell you what he's doing. I'll tell you what he's doing, Chris.

He's being one of the best performers in this movie, but it would be better served in another movie. I was not a fan. It all just feels incompatible with the rest of these. It's incongruent. It's, you know, all these movies have been like Flynn and then, yes, the son of Flynn, which I don't know why we didn't get Garrett Hendlin back. Was you recording, was you filming Tulsa King at the same time? Could have been, dude, honestly. How much is he in that third season?

I haven't seen it yet. Quite a bit, actually. Honestly, I bet you that's why. You had a better time. It was all about the Flynn family or whatever. Yes. I'm not saying you exactly have to do that again, but introducing the Kim sisters. and Greta Lee with the trauma dumping about the sister having this cancer.

And now she's talking to me on ghostly FaceTime or whatever. And you know what? Here's the thing too is it's obvious the thing of like she wants to get this shit going to like bring this sister back and talk to her in an AI form. Right. Like that's what they sort of hint at. And then the movie's like, never mind. And I was like that's at least something.

Like I don't, man, we got to get grief out of movies, especially fun movies that start with an electrified fucking magic king. Castle for Christ's sake. Get the trauma out of it. Get it out of my roller coaster. But if you have to have it, follow through with it. Have her trying to make this thing. She's all that shit about fucking Frankenstein and she's reading Frankenstein and

Aries is quoting fucking Frankenstein. Get her. I was quoting, I was quoting Frankenstein's monster when I was watching this. Starting at the Disney Castle, that is the, the, the, the, ravified Disney Castle is the event at Disney I do not want to be at. That's like a Disney key party is about to start. Oh, dude, fingers are everywhere. They should have given you Molly for every.

Everybody who was over 18 who went to see this movie should have been given Molly. We saw you from across the bar and liked your vibe. Yuck! You want to suck and yuck, fuck. Are you tasting the air right now? I taste the air too. Isn't it fantastic? It smells like sucks in here.

You want to come over to our place later? I'm going to be sucking Goofy's cock for a little bit. Which one? We got that fresh, wet dick smell in here, and that's really going to keep people going. Oh, put that corkscrew away. And Goofy, by the way. RFK Jr.'s here?

Goofy, by the way. the way he got that nickname because of the way his dick looks. Oh yeah. It's a very good. Dude, fucking 45 degree angle. Oh yeah, dude. Oh yeah. It's skews. It's a silly little one. Okay. Excuse.

But so, yeah, we did mention it yet. Jeff Ridges, computerized, I guess I was wrong about this, computerized Jeff Bridges on this team. This lone tube television in, I guess, Ghost Flynn's apartment. I don't know where this is supposed to be, but it's him talking from the 80s and, you know, this, we're going to go into this world and eventually

someday this world will come into hours. Honestly, I think that's, they should have leaned on that completely more than they even do in this. I think this movie should be pure spectacle. I want to just, when the car gets cut in half, when the helic, when the jet gets cut, like that's the best parts of the movie. I want to see Tron doing warfare. See, that's going to be your problem right there, Eric, is because if you follow that, hey, we're talking about an R-rated movie. Uh, with that thing splodagh. That thing splen splitting everything.

The way I'm writing it. It's an R-rated movie. I have a hard time believing. Like that is leaning into the violence of it, which I would love, but I just don't see that happening in this way, especially if it's the real world. This movie's message is trying to be the military,

like AI in the military and stuff. But what if we had like a dictator, you know, print, 3D printing his own dupes? You know, there's so much you could have done with this instead of the little boy wants to be alive

for no reason that is, I can't, because he likes Depeche mode, but I guess that's why he wants to be alive. Totally awesome 80s. Outrageous. Steve, what were you trying to say earlier? No, but I mean, the,

the spectacle, there's no wonder about any of it. Like, when you see the big, whatever, I don't even know, the thing looks like an archway that you could fly for some fucking reason. The recognizing, which is every other.

Yeah. So I know, yeah. That, whatever that thing is, there's no, like, shot of like, you want, I kind of want a Michael Bay Transformers. shot of some guy fucking putting ketchup on a hot dog and then he drops the ketchup the hot dog you know what I mean like I want I need some of that of the world like the jaw acting to this crazy shit his jaw dropping right yes exactly you want some of that because I mean like that's sort of the point of this movie is like oh wow tron is in the real world it's not aliens it's actually computer shit that's taking over our world you need some of that wonder in the real world to make any of that matter as opposed to flatten nothing I will say it Steve just to to give them one, because as soon as you started saying it, I thought of one. Nobody drops a hot dog, but when it comes or when the revelator or whatever comes around the

corner, Recognizer. Recognizer. There's that nice, like, Kaiju moment where it comes around the corner. And then there's a bunch of cops looking at it. Yes. Their jaws all kind of drop and then they run away. Very funny. But when the laser bikes are going around the city, I was like, ah, see you later, laser bike.

Or like, you know what I mean? Nobody gives this shit. That's the interesting problem with this movie franchise, right? Or with this one, because like in the other two, the outside world, Tron, the first one has more of it, but it's uninterested with it. And the problem is this movie, this script, decides to set it predominantly outside of the grid or largely outside of the grid. And it doesn't know what to do with that idea.

It can't be this. The real city can't be as barren as the grid feels. Unless you're trying to like say something about that. that comparison, but I don't think so. Also, know your audience. No one watching this thinks life is good or fun or worth living. There's no reason why Aries would suddenly be

outside the grid and feel like, oh, wow, it's raining. I need to be here forever. I think he should be pushed to war crimes and then he can rebel that way. I feel like that's a little more it's more thematic than what we have here. Well, yeah, but it's completely

it's not like the other two at all. Like the, that's the thing is you would have to add so much here for it to work the way you want it to work. And it's just, I don't see that happening without an immense amount of violence. And like the kids stuff, like making the world wondrous, as you guys are saying, like, because that was the easy thing with going into the world is that, oh, this is just what? You can just create this and have fun and really. Oh, man, Michael Sheen's dancing. Oh, wow. Chris, there's a way to desensitize the violence maybe like you get Dillinger to sell.

you know, Tron people to fight, and then you get M-Com to sell Tron people to fight. So then you sort of just see, you know, Clay Troopers fall over. I realize what's going on here. You're coming up with a better,

stronger idea for what they could have done with this movie, and the way that you do it, you have to set it up so that the events of the film start after what this movie's about. You know what I mean? It's already been established.

We're just in this world. N-com and Dillinger are already fighting over who, whose digital super soldiers gets to sell to the government and all that stuff. Like the world needs to be formed as we start. Add three more minutes of digital Robin Roberts fucking telling me shit. You know what I mean? That thing was interminable anyway.

Like add just three more minutes of her catching me up on the Tron world. The thing is, if you make a better script here, I think you're like Marvel. With the Jared Letto movie, you cannot have a good movie with Jared Letto as the star. That's not going to happen anymore. I don't see that ever happen. I think that's fair. I actually agree with that. I just don't think that's going to happen.

And like to, if you make this good, somebody better is going to want it. And like to be like, I would like to be in that movie. Like the movie that Eric is talking about, that would be a movie that's like Michael Sheen would be interested in fucking doing that just. Michael Shannon. Really? Would be interested in doing that kind of stupid stuff. So I'm like a computer person now or what's going on here?

What the fuck is the grid? Michael Sheen would remind you that he's also a truck. Legacy, the movie everybody loves so much, FYI. Yes. You're just raw because you're outside the circle on that one. I'll be happy to be where I am. So, you know,

we get this credit sequence. We see Aries being born and born and born and born all over again, fighting and training, who could give a shit. He wakes up in his bedroom. This is Julian Dillinger. Right, which is no, well, I was going to say no relation.

I guess relation to because Killian Murphy's in Tron Legacy as Dillinger, the grandson, I guess, but I guess... For 49 exhilarating seconds. Okay. And wouldn't it be great if he was in this? But no, I guess it's a different, you know, daughter. Dillinger. Yeah.

Different, you know, like they're, what do they call that? Cousins, perhaps. Or it could be like, you know, he's the brother. She's the sister. She has a kid. Oh, yeah. I guess there you go. Yeah.

The she, by the way, being Jillian and who is criminally underused in this movie. And when she is used, it feels like she's reading a goddamn restaurant menu. And I know that she's amazing. What are the specials tonight? I think a lot of actors that I like in other stuff, not Jared Leto,

because everyone's going to brand me as a Jared Lidto lover, are good at other things, are terrible in this movie. I think she's very bad in this movie. I think Evan Peters, who I like a lot, is pretty bad. And I think it's the script of the directing.

They just don't have anywhere to go. Dude, I'll tell you what, with this Evan Peters character, the way, like the length of his curly hair and the tattoos that he's got and the screaming that he's doing, he definitely reminded me of a guy I used to work with. He kind of looks exactly like him in this movie and it was really distracting. I buy that. I also, you know what? I like Greta Lee quite a bit. And this just ain't it with her either. You know, I'm the outlier of having really enjoyed past lives and I think she's excellent in that movie. I loved her on Russian doll. that Natasha Leon TV shows on Netflix. Yeah, she's a great. She's a great actor. And I was like, I felt like I was watching a completely different person. It's just some people aren't either, again, I do think that the director and the writer just didn't give her much to do.

And I think she's good in her. And I think she's good in it. But also some people are not made for Blockbuster Fair either. You know what I mean? Some people can sell, I'm hacking in. And other people can't. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's the funny thing about Hassan Minhaj, right? Because, like, I'm watching this performance and I was like, yeah, in another movie, he could be like the wisecracking hacker. I would totally buy it. You know what I mean? But he's in this for like eight seconds as the CFO or whatever. But anyway, so, yeah, Julian Dillinger here, Ivan Peter's character, is controlling Ares, you know, from outside, obviously.

And the way that this, I did think this was kind of cool, the evil head, talking to him, very Wizard of Oz kind of deal. I did like the giant head. and the big giant head just like William Shatner on Third Rock from the Sun. Exactly. It's the reverse from the first movie isn't the big head in the computer

when what's his face is talking to him? When David Warner is talking that the big computer is telling him what? Now it's the other way around. The master control computer. And so he makes him master control. And one of the funniest dumb parts of this movie is Jared Leto and I don't think this was the choice of him

like I think it's in the script or whatever. he does like a church, like, genuflect as if it's this big, like, religious moment or he's being knighted or something. Dude, it's so stupid. I was like, you're being made the general manager of the security department. And also, you don't promote programs. You create a program that is master control. And you don't get promotions.

You're just, yeah. Well, here you go, program. 30 hard years on the force. Here's your digital golden watch as you retire computer program. Your sub-control. Napster, you've been doing such a good job downloading files for me. You know what? You're just, you're going to be part. You're going to do the security as well, Napster.

Come on. Napster, I'm going to give you more to do. That is a fundamental problem with this fucking movie is when we go and see them inside. We do get to see Jared Leto and his team go and like fight and like do a break in like mission. I kind of like that. I'm not crazy about it. I know it's the action of the movie. So it's certainly more interesting than other things.

But, like, when he essentially says programs, mown up, I'm like, no. No, no, no. Here's what I like about it, though, because I feel like it's a digital representation of hacking. It's sort of, like, you know, something like a movie like hackers would do or something. But I feel like if they leaned into corporate espionage or warfare, we might have something. A different movie would be great. Yeah, I love a different movie. Greta Lee has, like, a bounty on her head the whole time.

And I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, even like when she gets off the plane, she's like, we've got to get. or crazy motorcross stupid things ride around like an Albanian motor club to get to the thing to be our endcom to be safe. And I'm like wouldn't you then know that you're in trouble and you'd have security team like this is like if you're

you're that important. Yes. And if things are that contentious in this world yeah something something. So he gets so he gets the promotion and one of the I was like I knew I was in for a tough time when this happened. The title card comes up. It looks very cool. It says Tron Legacy. But in my head, I was like, Tron Aries. Or Tron Aries, excuse me. But I was like, in my head, I was like, didn't they already put up the title card? Like what? For a split second, I thought they showed it

a second time by accident or something. But we cut to the snowy mountain range. We learned way later in the movie that this is Alaska. How about you put that right at the top? That would be nice. But we're in Alaska. I like this single ski snowmobile that she's riding here. I'd never seen anything like that. That seems pretty cool. sets her up as an extreme sports enthusiast. Oh, yeah. Totally. But that's another thing where it feels like,

was this like some of this stuff left behind for a Sam Flynn draft? Because he was the daredevil. He rode motorcycle guy. Yeah. Well, because apparently that movie stalled out whatever Tron 3 was going to be in like the early odds because Tomorrowland bombed and Disney didn't want to put money into it. And then like a couple of years ago, they're like,

well, that ain't so bad. And they dusted it off and turned it into the, I also think there was a newfound, especially after Top Gun Maverick, Kaczynski became a bigger deal. And I think Legacy got rediscovered by a few people. Pay to get him back. And wait for him, honestly. Yeah, he's really good. Don't bring out your fucking cleanup crew.

This is janitor director that you have. Honestly, but I didn't think F1 was very good. Oh, I didn't see it yet. I think it's outright bad. I did not really enjoy it that much. and he could have been better served here. Yes, very much so. So we're at this secret mountain base

that's basically like a shack on the top of a snowy hill here and we go inside. There's all this Flynn-related memorabilia all over the place and there's some computers that we're firing up here. She has an assistant with her at this point.

This is the actor Arturo Castro. As Seth, Arturo Castro is a fucking hilarious comedic actor. Another dude just flushed down the toilet of this movie. But she fires... He is fucking digging for any kind of in this movie trying to make a laugh. He's a fucking comedian and he's trying. He's trying his god-damest in

this movie, man. Also, a big fan, the sister is, oh, ha ha, ha, I don't see one shirtless picture on here. Not one. I'm not seeing Hedron's Rippling Bod. I got nothing. And I'm sorry, but they would be there, please. Wait, who's Rippling Bod are you missing? Jeff Bridgett. Oh, Garrett Hedler. Oh, my God. How about both, dude? I would take a Jeff Bridges bod. Think about this. You got both those Flynn boys taking you down, you know? Listen, it's a sun swap. You understand me? Look, we're both good at video games. We got magic fingers, both father and son. No, no, we're not going to Paris. That's not what we're doing. We're just, it's me and you, and we're with a woman. It's called an Eiffel Tower because it's...

Listen, if it's on the internet, if I say step in front of father, I'll be fine. It's good. So, Mr. psychiatrist at Christmas this year, my father explained to me what an Eiffel Tower is. That's another direction that we could have gone because the Tron world would be ripe for sexual deviants. We talked about this on the Tron episode.

Where is the sexual degeneracy? You know it would be here. You know that if it was a more adult property, there'd be a thing where like, oh man, you want to get high with virus? You just spray it in your eye. It's called virus. That's a problem with this two-party system, man. I got to tell you.

Because you know the third guy, the third person underneath Dillinger and the fucking sisters, the third guy is the porn guy. The porn guy who has created a world of porn and has lived there beautifully for years. He just doesn't want any of this fucking mess. Played by Josh Gad. How about that? Josh Gad as the porn kingpin AI guy. That'd be great.

But also this movie is so sexless. they have horrible chemistry because I'm sure they didn't like each other and Jared Letto was reported he had to be in character the whole time, which is very stupid because that's so fun. But they have zero chemistry. How about they kiss? How about it's like and at the end like they like have some sort of romantic crescendo that makes any of this makes sense. That'll be another million. That'll be another million to write down there for Greta leave. I got to kiss that thing.

Are you serious? Okay. But why is he trying to get out of the system? Like if he falls in love or something, maybe that would be an angle to explore. Sure. You need to have him all read. Like there was a pre-established obsession with the outside world and he's being chastised by like another program or something. Like you got to stop thinking about that, Aries.

You're ridiculous. You're always daydreaming about the outside. Wait, you guys didn't see it. It's Frankenstein. He loves Frankenstein. He can't fucking. wait to me, Frankenstein. He's going to get out there and he's going to fucking meet this tall beast

and it's going to be great. It's going to be fantastic. He can't tell the difference between books and real life. Look, if it looks like Jacob Allorty, I might be into it. I'll be honest with you. It wouldn't be so bad. Put him in the grid too. I'll get down to it. I'll figure that out.

But if you creepily, like, when he creepily steals her data and like learns all about her, he could fall in love with her. And you know what I mean? And that could be something. And again, like, Not everything needs to be a romance, but like the fact that nothing is anymore that every Disney movie ends on a firm handshake and a job well done. Right. Well, that's what it's crazy because it's like the whole character motivations.

Greta Lee's like, I want to finish with my sister started because I loved my sister. Tron Aries is like, it was raining when I went outside that one time and now I want to stay outside. That is, period. I mean, that is tough. And the thing, what you were talking about, Steve, what they don't do, like what they want is. a replacement. What I think people want is a replacement for romantic love, but you have to put effort into showing friendship, into showing like working together, like a communal spirit and working together, stuff like that. You have to spend time building those things still. You can't

just be like, okay, we're taking out the romance. Nothing else. Fuck it. Chris, why do anything? You're forgetting Depeche mode. Oh, hey, you know what? Electropop is in factious. Totally awesome, I feel it. I just feel it. It's not, I don't, I can't explain anything like, oh man, that's really catchy or shit like that. No, no, no. I just feel this shit. It's just a feeling. And that's how you know he's an actual real boy, Chris. God, I wish I was dead. I love the Pesh mode. And I, I, it's just this is, this is a bridge too far. You mentioned it three or four times. Sure does. Uh, so whatever, she gets out an old fucking five and a half inch floppy drive and goes, this is for you, Tess. I thought you were going to, sorry, I thought you were going to finish. Sorry, I thought you were

to finish that sentence differently. She gets out of five and a half inch. I sat up in my seat for a second audience. But so she puts the drive in. Then we cut to Evan Peters. Yes, Julian Dillinger. He's making this speech to investors, board members, military people. It's the Oz Corp. The guys went to the OzCorp meeting first and then they went to the Dillinger meeting after that. Boy, I sure hope we don't have to tell this creep to go back to Formula also. What a tiring day. All right, you want to do the hand glider goblin thing. I want to do the, I think the future is AI, not hand gliders and goblins? That's me. That's just me. What the fuck do you mean you don't want to invest in pumpkin bombs? What does a matter with you? And you know, what is this movie saying about AI? Great question.

Here he talks about there's so much talk of AI and big tech today. And we see that through the events of the movie, it's dangerous. But at the end of the day, these are really nice guys, these AIs. It goes to incredible lengths to say nothing about it. Yes, exactly. It works very hard to avoid having to say anything concrete about what it actually thinks. It's the worst way to do stuff like that, right? It's, of course, of the moment, everybody cannot stop talking about this abysmal technology. So you're going to make a movie about it.

And often, or it should be all the time when art is making a statement about a contemporary thing, especially one as dangerous as an important as this, you have to have an opinion on it. You can't fucking both sides, the wonder and danger of AI. get out of here. You need a perspective. You need a take. I'm sorry. Because it's not because that's the thing. The movie keeps saying AI and it's not really AI. It's like 3D printers that make people.

Which is not what anyone's talking about. So call it something other than AI. Something like Robocop, which is like you know, it's against what they're presenting, but it's also looking cool. Like you could have found a way to do it. Right. So he shows them we've built the dart, which

is a tank thing and then inside this tank, he's biblically strong. lightning fast, extremely intelligent, the ultimate soldier. Biblically. What? Biblically, dude. You should have a fucking slingshot then. Yeah, name us himself.

Name him David. You know, not Ares. I mean, also someone in the Disney marketing department between this and alien Romulus, like put the fucking myths book away and let's fucking do something else. Yeah, you insufferable nerd, whoever that guy is. Yeah. Couldn't it be Aries? What? Oh, Romulus. What about Zeus?

No, it sounds intelligent. If you do stuff like that, it sounds good. Pirates of the Caribbean, Zeus's beard. How about that? Oh, that's fun. I've read a book. It'd be like Poseidon's Trident, but yes. Yes, yeah, exactly. Did you guys notice, I don't know if it's scenes deleted or what, but in this crew of people that have assembled to watch this Ares demonstration is, uh, lady and favorite Catherine Isabel. Oh, yes, she's in it for two seconds. She has a full three name name on IMB as Marsha Lee Hadlow.

Yes. She's got one line that's like, oh, Evan Peters, kick ass. This is great. See you later. Listen, it's all worth it because maybe you'll see her in a grainy photograph and Tron Four. Yeah, John Four. Just wait for it. So many grainy photographs. You're right, though. The movie stops dead and loves her for a second. Like she has a full on like hero shot of like and I think this because I'm a character in this movie.

It was so much so like I paused it just to look at IMDB and I was like yeah, that is her. Is she out of the movie? Erased from existence. No, no, no. I'm sorry. You only get to know when we get to watch Tron Hera. Then maybe you will get to. Then maybe you will get to see her.

Oh, guys, remember Helen of Tron who got all those soldiers kids? It's tough. It's tough out there. Bed knobs and brats. Broomsticks colon hermes. I can't wait for that to come out. But yeah, this is where Gillian Anderson drops in on the presentation.

She is Elizabeth Dillinger, daughter of David Warner's character. Hell yeah, now we're talking. I'll tell you what, here's a nice thing. Thank you, art department. This beautiful portrait of David Warner that they see, they show you a couple times in the movie. Not too bad. He's looking pretty sharp. I'd hang that up.

So the big problem that he has not told the investors, Evan Peters, has not told these investors, but Jillian Anderson comes in, and she's like, hey, son of mine, did you tell them about the fact that when you create these things and bring them into the real world,

they can only exist here for 29 minutes and then scream horribly and crumpled to the ground in digital ash? Well, that's because the program to last exactly as long as an episode of Big Bang Theory. So that's Hey, hey, wow, including commercials. You want to include for the

commercials. Oh, man. I mean, that's, again, like, this is one of those moments where you realize that nobody gives a shit about what's going on in this movie. Because, like, you could have had, like, a nice, like, panic moment, right? There's somebody who's hanging out a little longer than Evan Peters wants to. And he, like, keeps on trying to get him out the door for some reason. And you don't know what the reason is. So then you have to just keep on guessing what the fuck is it. What's wrong with this thing? And then you finally find out when he gets the fucker out the door. But again, we don't care about building tension or doing anything fun.

We're just trying to get through this stupid fucking movie. That is such a good idea, Chris. Yeah, building the tension of like, all right, we'll talk about this tomorrow. Yeah, I'll send you the email. Don't worry about it. I got to go now.

I have another meeting and he pushes him. And the second the door closes... Mother, help me! Dear God! These lion roars that these people bombing out when they die. I do like that it's excruciating. That's fun for me.

It is. That's good. I will say, yeah. Hey, Aries, when you go back into the grid, does it hurt? Every time. No, give that to bridges. Good on you on that one. But so Gillian says to him, listen, the board will back you for six months.

But that's that. If you can't get it working, by then, we are going to lose everything. And then Aries does fucking, he just drops back into the grid. At first, he realizes, to Eric's point, he realized what rain is. And he's like, oh, wow. And also rain with synth stuff, it's a little too close to Blade Runner for my taste. You got to get them robots out of the rain. You're absolutely right. And if they do get caught in the rain, I thought it was going to be some sort of like sparks were flying. Yeah. All right. So 29 minutes and they can't get wet. Those are the two problems we have to solve. They're on the battlefield in like a bag, and like a garbage bag. This is convenient because when they fall apart, you get easy cleanup.

A bunch of cubes. They turn out. Oh, yeah. There's just little Jared Lettos popping out his back when he gets into the rain. Oh, God. That would make me, that is how he would procreate, dude. That was the coolest part, I think, of legacy was when people, when they killed other legacy dudes in the grid, they turned into cubes and stuff and they kept that in this. That was kind of fun.

Yeah. I think that's smart. Love a good cube. So we go back to the Alaskan Mountains where we learn that these two characters have been in this tiny thing together for weeks on end. The smell in this little computer fort has to be off the charts. It's months. She says three months They've been in the fucking thing.

Oh, I thought it was weeks. I was waiting for them to say weeks in between because they go straight from three months to four days. You're a billionaire. Take the fucking computer and move it to Santa Monica. Like, it's in a shack now. Sure. You can move it.

I think part of that was like it's far away from an internet connection and whatever. But like they don't say any of that. Like she needs to be like, This was a hideout that, you know, Flynn's notebook led me to, and it's off the grid, and there's no satellites. You got to have something. Otherwise, it's just like those things that people have in their yard when they don't want to leave their, like, cool sports car out in the elements. They put it in there, but it's not a garage. It's just like a tent thing.

A carport? I guess. Carports are also what people call garages, by the way. It's a roof. It's like a roof structure. Oh, that thing. No, no, no, no. Completely detached from your house.

It's like a tent that you put around. your car and you leave it at the back of the driveway because you only drive it like three months out of the year like those kind of things that's what this looks like to me or like a greenhouse like that kind of structure right there is the line about the sister had spent all this time there so and you know I guess this

they got the fucking lasers beamy so they can do secret secrets here secret experiments she makes an orange tree and it's like all right I think I figured out the code because it's a double helix or whatever oh Steve real quick what code was that it's the permanence code

Dude, drink every time someone says Permanence Code. Honestly, call it Tron the Permanence Code. That's at least, you know, yes. No, call it permanence, colon, aries, because the other two Tron movies have fucking Tron in it. Yeah, where's Bookes?

Yeah, where's Bookes? Where's his paycheck? That's another reason it failed. You need to give him that. You owe that fucker, one scene in a boardroom, a cup of coffee. I don't know. Well, whatever he has to say.

Or you do a shot of him, like handing the reins to the Kim sisters in that whole buildup. Oh, was there a grainy photo of Bruce Boxlighter that I missed? Not even. I don't believe so. I don't think so. He didn't even to get the Grady photo credit, dude. He is Tron. I almost screamed out of boredom

when I, when fucking Jeff Bridges says, I don't actually, should be called the impermanence code. Oh, dude. I'm like, that is such fucking like, oh, a driveway should be a parkway, and a parkway should be a driveway kind of bullshit. And you just are like, why am I here?

Why the fuck would I listen to someone like this? Jesus Christ. But he's actually right. Yeah. I don't care. I don't know, Chris, Kevin. I wasn't rattled by that half-second line delivery as much as you were. I was quite like, like, fucking impermanence.

God, are you my father? Jesus, you see, you see, you see, once you're, um, mortal, you can actually die for real. If you die, you die for real. Once you get the petnese. She makes an orange tree and it lasts. I mean, like, they are celebrating at like minute 2905. I want to give this a day, especially before we start drinking this orange juice.

That's another thing. What does that do to you, right? I would love to know. Oh, yeah. If you're just eating computer shit, like, because at the end, they do crops across the world. Yeah, it clearly, you know, it doesn't poison you or give you a dime. diarrhea or anything because we're solving world hunger with it at the end of the movie.

Which again is not AI. This is actually the problem with AI in general. Nobody has a use case for it. So it's like, what if it's just it's everything you want it to be? No, well, someone will AI that later. Like, no one knows what the fuck it is. Just use your imagination and

sign over your life savings to invest in. Wait, wait, what was that? What was that? What was that eye word you said? Imagination. What's that? We don't do that anymore. What's that thing? It sounds interesting.

We need the imagination code, Chris. We've got to go into the grid and find it. Would it be great. Tron, the imagination code? I kind of like that one too. Sounds better than permanence. But the permanence code, Tron, the permanence code, that also sounds like an awesome 70s spy thriller.

Yes. Like a Robert Ludlum novel. Yes. It should actually be the disimagination. No, that's not a word now. But you know what? Let's go with it. Mary Poppins colon Medusa has to happen instead.

Any Disney thing with a fun Greek subtitle, no matter what it is. So Ares is back in the grid and he's bumming because he has heard Evan Peters give this speech where he's like, yeah, if this long-haired bitch dies on the battlefield, I can make you another one. They're fully expendable. Fuck him. And he's like feeling real bad about it. This is where we're introduced to Athena, played by Jody Smith Turner, another actress who's way too good to be farting around in a fucking. the tron sequel she's great in the dad

show that I love the agency the only you know I'm the only person that watches Paramount Pluses the agency I still not how it's good cast is nuts that's great that's the only reason I can I can try it one of these let me let me tell you how to try it it's her

and Michael Fosbender fucking for about seven episodes okay and now we're doing the full thing huh I believe there's some like light nudity you know some buttocks and what I like But not his fucking horsecock. No, he keeps the horse cock in.

You can't have, you can't have like Richard gear in a TV show that has horse cock in it. I mean, but that thing lives free in your mind. I mean, anybody who's seen shame has that file to go back to whenever they like. I got the permanence code for that. Horsecock.exe.

Every time I close my eyes. Oh, troncola horsecock. No, yeah, I'm not a big Steve McQueen fan, but shame. that was a hell of a picture. Hell of a hell of a picture. So yes, this permanence code works. I mean, it works beyond the 29 seconds. They're on a jet at one point.

They're like, hey, it's been like four and a half hours or whatever. Julian sensing something is going on with NCOM starts this hack, which Elizabeth is not thrilled with here. But he wants to find Eve and stop her from getting the permanence code and to find her he's got a hack. And he does this, he does a Casey Jones, oops and starts the hack. I was like, I just rewatched that

oops recently in 1990s, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and it was way funnier then. It's this hack, I know it's visual, people, it looks like a toothpaste commercial to me. It's like, where are the cavities and we're going to come and get the other stuff and the blue guys? We're the, we're the mid stuff

that's going to stop you. Sounds like my teeth's going to be clean, Steve. I like this. You're not wrong Steve, but this just, this just goes, this is, put this in the box of Steve just doesn't like Trump. Because all trons are toothpaste commercials, man. It's all just little blue guys and little yellow guys looking cool. I like Tron.

I like both the Trons. I think this looks stupid as hell. Like, this is just not. It's too clean. Explain to me what the differences. I think it's too bright. It's too bright. I think the cool stuff in the red Tron world looks much better than this moment.

The watercraft sequence is the only, to me, the only cool Tron sequence of this movie. That's awesome. That's kind of good. Full-on badass sequence. I mean, like I said before, I like the idea of this scene. And I like the Blue World. I think it looks good. And I like this staircase they're running up as like an MC Escher staircase.

So I'm okay with these elements of the film. You know what? Another element that I was okay with, a fat security room guy working for N-coms sitting in his feet up with a big soda at the desk when this hack starts. That could be the guy with the hot dog falling out of his bed. Exactly. Later on, that guy's getting a hot dog. Yeah.

He's at the M-Com commissary. He's getting his nightly hot dog. Exactly. The, one of his nightly hot dogs. That guy goes four deep easy. Wow. The, we're cutting against this, which is what nobody asks. The Space Paranoids release thing,

because Space Paranoids is the game for the first movie, which is a cool idea of like, oh, it became this big thing. and it just goes nowhere and Hassan Minash has nowhere to go and the girl from one of the girls from Yellow Jackets is like kind of in this movie oh is that who that other person is I think the character's name is Emily

Melan Nielinski's daughter Melanie Yolinski's daughter in yellow jackets is her name is Sarah De Hardin's likely so she's Aaron and Hassan Minhaj's character is AJ yes yes yeah and that whole that whole presentation

that's kind of that's a cool history with the sisters I guess right because like Greta's character was the game person and the dead sister was the one that was trying to do more with the technology like for humanity or whatever. Sure. I'm more interested in the game

release and you know what you can do? You know what you can do? I'm sorry, you know what you can do? You get this it's a it's a class it's a remade version of a classic 80s arcade game. You get fucking Steve Webe in there Oh now we're talking. You know what I mean? You get all those fucking king of con

freaks to cameo at the big release of it? Hell yeah. Do you get Walter Day just like, oh, and everyone we'll find out who's going to have the biggest record on Space Paranoid. Exactly. I could see them definitely leaning into this gaming idea way more. Did you notice, though, in the audience there, there's a

guy cosplaying as the original Tron characters. Oh, that's cute. This would be a great place to get Bruce Box. Is that you, Eric? That was me. That was my cameo in the film. If you demand on keeping this, get Bruce Box Lightner in there, and then he introduces is Aaron and A. Jane. He's like, these two really made the game what it, whatever. Just get Bruce Boxlighter.

Like innovation, young blood, you know, you're passing the torch kind of moments. Either it's Disney just completely disrespects the history of this franchise or, which it does. I hate to say it. And I'm pretty sure it's that. But also like I genuinely hope Bruce Boxleitner is not in ill health or anything. You couldn't do it. I really hope it's, they're just scumbags that didn't even ask. I'll check TMZ to see if there's any paramedics involved with Bruce. Definitely A, it might also be B. That's, I mean, it's, but it's definitely A. But the hack happens during the conference, which seems like it's on purpose,

but this conference doesn't matter. And like, Hassan Minhaj is like, oh my God, we're in so much trouble. And it's never mentioned again. Dude, scenes fucking de-reszed right back to the grid, dude. Well, they were malfunctioning scenes, so you had to de-res them. Also really dumb, he comes out on the stage to crazy train, which is very stupid. But I did like the moment of he's like, cowboy hat time, which would be a dumb, rich guy, game developer thing that he thought was cool, like some piece of shit tech bro thing.

And then I love, she grabs the hat off his head before he goes on the stage. I hate to correct you, but it comes out to paranoid because it's... Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. This stuff, like, if you want to make... make the business part of it matter. You do have to put the effort into making that matter.

You can't just say, hey, here's two scenes of them doing business stuff. That's, that's it. That feels like business stuff. Right. I mean, that's business stuff. I, like, I feel like M-com's back has to be up against the wall too.

Like, if this doesn't go well, then the company's over to. It's only Dillinger that really has any issue that he's working with here. Because also, I mean, and this is, you know, a problem with this movie because it's the good company and the bad company. and the bad companies are going to do all the bad stuff and the good company's going to do all the good stuff and it's like, come on folks. Yeah, there is no good companies.

Thank you. But so, yeah, the hack happens, he gets all the info and everything and then it's like, oh, now we're sending in like NCOM virus protection or whatever the blue guys are supposed to be.

And then, you know, the fight here. That's the extra target protection that comes in later. Yeah, oh, exactly, dude. I like it. It's removing the plaque, dude. I like this secret. And this one guy gets his leg blown off.

The dude who apparently, if you watched it, he was the sort of joker on that Gotham show. Oh, is that right? Yeah, whatever. He also has a Greek. He also has a Greek name. Kaius? Of course he does.

Yeah, Kaius. Also, wait, he's in those Star Wars Jedi games. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, he's that voice actor? Okay. And Cameron Monaghan is Kaius. Yeah.

Yes. Another Greek question mark. When Aries is looking through all the video stuff and like learning about her or whatever, I think one of the things that he hears and really loves is when she's like, What if AI's major malfunction is benevolence? And I was like, lady, did you fucking see any Terminator movie, any of them? You could even read that, watch the bad ones. Listen to yourself.

What if? That means nothing. Exactly. Or what if AI is being used to fucking de-clothed children on Twitter? What if that's what's going on? Maybe that might be something that's cool. Well, they got a rename X to XXXX, huh? Oh, God.

By the way, so now we're ending this plaque fighting sequence, right? Dillinger decides just to blow everything up to, I guess, you know, so there's no trace or whatever. That's a floss bomb. Yes. And when he does the floss bomb, you got to do this. This is a key to any good screenplay. When you're writing a character that's a smart guy, right, he get a little chess talk before he does something.

Because that's the smartest thing in the world. Chess is the smartest thing in the world. So you've got to sacrifice your knight to expose their queen is what he says. Oh, right. I forgot about that. Chess is smart. Chess is smart. If he knows chess, he's got to be smart.

That's a real ass clencher line. I forgot. I was so bad I erased it from my data bank. DeRaz, dude. And also like with the whole like Kai's, moment. I mean, this guy's not a nothing actor, this Cameron Monaghan dude, when it's like, oh no,

Caius, I have to make sure that, you need, I'm sure it's a deleted scene, but you have to keep it in the final cut where it's like the DAC in Empire Strikes Back. I feel like I can take out the whole empire myself, sir. Like, you need that one little moment that I'm like, oh, I'm rooting for this kid. Oh, no, it's, you know what I mean? Like

Yeah, exactly. He's like a faceless guy except for when you see his face. But like he's not he's he's he's textureless you have no idea what any of this is he gets his leg blown off why should i care it's a good point steve it um and she also has the line in one of the videos this is they just hint at it and it's like the way more interesting thing and then again just de-resd idea where she's like because it's like an interview clip or something and the interviewer is like well don't you want it wouldn't you rather talk to a real person and she's like talk to a real person sure but what if that person is no longer in your life and i was like

I get it. You have a dead sister. And now you're all, you're not going to do anything about that. God, and okay. You're not going to pursue that any farther. I mean,

I guarantee there was a draft where like her consciousness was in the computer and the permanence code was for her. Oh, sure. And then she learns not to bring her back or something like these are things

much more interesting. By the way, much more interesting. Even stupid, but interesting. You know. And Athena is okay to kill Caius. This sort of lets you know

that Athena is, more bloodthirsty or more efficient. I do like, you know, her as like a Terminator lady's kind of fun. You know what I mean? She's good in this. Yeah. It's an easy role to play, but she's good at it. You know what?

She should have played Aries. You know, I think that would have been better. But Aries. Speaking of the performances, though, in Aries, Eric, you said something with your letterboxed review, and I think this is a good spot to bring it up talking in comparison to her performance. You brought up a great point in your letterbox review. Ooh, I don't remember this review, so please.

Get ready, dude. I'm going to blow your mind. all over again. I love this like a talk show set up. So in your letterbox, you gave a really interesting thought. Do we have a clip of that? Yeah. I'm smoking on the Tonight Show right now. Can we cut to Mac and me? Cut to a frame grab of a letterbox. Yeah, the Mac and me

clip. No, but you said you said about the performance that in none of the other movies, any of the actors portraying programs acts like a robot. It's true. And so Why does Jared Leto's performance have him? He's just acting like a robot. It's too intentionally rigid to not be that.

And it makes no sense. I guess you could maybe theorize that like, oh, if he's a warrior, he would have to be less emotional or whatever. But it's just, you just, you're shaving down all the personality out of your movie by doing that. Right. Tron's a great hero. And he's like intrepid and fun and quippy and shit. It's that dopey charm that you've been.

based on a real guy. Like, you know, you should have, maybe have like a griff hard apple from the military that Jared Leto also plays. Oh, yes. That's what it is. Robot is less effort. There's no, you can do anything. Robot is less effort.

It is. Like, you don't have to put much fucking thought into it. And he does it. Like, yes, somebody could have made a great, you know, a robot performance and do something very interesting with it. But that's not what's happening here. He's just like, what do I have to do to just stare blankly and say my lines and that's it. And that's what he does.

But how do you, but how, hang on though, but how do you then put that up against all these reports that he's in character the whole time? If he doesn't give a shit, why is he in character the whole time? Oh, because he can just say that. And like, it's not, but these are other people, these are other people saying that he was doing that, yes. But what effort does it take to just act like that? As Garland Schwarzenegger.

I mean, that's probably nothing. I kind of act like that, you know, IRL when I'm not performing. A lot of people do. Eric, to your point, losing the idea that the character, the little computer guys look like their programs,

and that's why they have human expressions, which makes a ton of sense and is fun in the first Tron movie. Oh, that's that guy, that's that guy. That like kind of a Wizard of Oz-esque kind of thing that they do in that first movie. Yeah. And kind of carry over in the first movie.

second one. It makes no sense in this one. So like, why would you even design Jared Lito? So you're just making a program that has long hair? Like what? You know what I mean? That seems like if you're going to get into fights every day, you don't want a long hair. Exactly. And also someone didn't want to get a haircut. But you know, that's more. And to speaking on the robot angle, he does like a Johnny 5 input thing, finding out everything about the Kim sisters. Oh, boy. So AJ calls Eve and Eve is on this plane coming back to Is this Los Angeles? Where is this?

I think it's the same city. I think it's never announced what city it's supposed to be in. Okay. I think. Yeah. I couldn't remember. I was pretty sure that's what it was. Because it's the weird thing where when you saw the original Flynn's exterior in the first movie,

that is a real intersection in Los Angeles. Okay. building is real. But I couldn't remember if it was supposed to be LA or if it's just, you know, American city kind of deal. But so AJ's freaking out about this hack or whatever. And she informs him like, hey, I found the code. And AJ's like, hey, well, Dillinger's looking for this code too.

And that's like, yeah, then we see all this stuff of him just looking through more like her fucking social media and everything. This is where the Frankenstein quotes get highlighted because he sees like an Instagram video of her on a yacht and she's reading Frankenstein. No, no, I got the permanence code. you know what I'm doing right now? I'm drinking some champagne with an orange. I pick from the...

Ah! By the way, I looked it up. Apparently they filmed a lot in Vancouver. Mm-hmm. So I... There you go. You're a big surprise there. That's how you get cats.

A lot of character. Yeah, but she lands and it's like, okay, we have to go to N-com. Me and my sidekick here. you get in your stupid Dakotty car I'll get on my stupid Dakotty bike and I'm like so Ari do you know you're in danger or do you not know you're in danger because I'm very unclear on that fact

yeah there needs to be some sort of like there could be an attempt on my life get fucking Bruno the head of security you know whatever you know right so yeah Julian Prince Aries and Athena to get her 30 minutes on the clock your kidnapping starts now let's go

let's go and you know what they use their time pretty efficiently, I would say. They get on her pretty quick. And I just like, I watched it and I guess I was entertained, but I also just kind of checked out of this. Yeah, well, because it was, it meanders, you know, like it does. The cop car cut in half a plus. It's cool.

Loving that. You know, but Aries stopping saying hello to a baby and things like that. I've seen that in fucking Ted movies. Exactly. Let's get on with it. Oh, right. He can't fucking T-Bron. bone that car because there's a baby in it or whatever.

That's a weird thing. You know, it's a cool moment though, when Eve goes up the parking structure and throws her motorcycle and hits Athena in the face with it, it's kind of fun. Pretty sweet. And it's also like, so then she can also use the bike

later, like, wouldn't it just be part of Athena? You know what I mean? Yeah, like it shouldn't be compatible. Yes, exactly. A person can't just be pushing buttons. There wouldn't need to be buttons. Unless it's like a direct, like, oh, this bike was, you know, they stole this intellectual property from M-Com

so she knows how to do it or whatever. But, you know, the movie doesn't say that. No, no, no, no. I don't think I was thinking it either. So there's a whole chase. We get to, what, the pier, the docks or whatever. And Eve has an empathetic response to Ares before he dissipates.

So therefore, she, you know, he wants to save her now, I guess. And Evan Peters is in for a penny, in for a pound. He is fucking like laser that girl into my fucking grid. I don't give a shit. We're fucking going to hell tonight, Mom. By the way, speaking of Evan Peters, because you guys brought up someone, Eric, I think brought up the chest thing. When Aries finds, he finds a live camera feed of the orange tree, Evan Peters goes, checkmate.

Oh, yes, he does. A lot of, God damn it, I'm awesome talking to. There is that. Yeah. Yep. Boy, that's, even to try to make me hate this guy. It's just like, this guy's just sad at this point. This is fucking pathetic. Like, I don't know what you

want from me here. Try this on for Sise. What if unrelated to any of the events of the film, like the beekeeper shows up to take up? Please. Oh, man. 100%. Send it in the real world now with the beekeeper. Bekeeper.exe.

Better movie. Jason Statham as a Tron robot Makes more sense That is beekeeper too Somehow the beekeeper gets sucked into the grid Also just swap I mean You're proving

You're I'll prove your point You put Jason Statham in this movie Instead of Jared Leto It's kind of a good movie But it has to have like Jason Statham action in it It has to change a lot of things Right change the DNA of it But like just I don't believe

I'm saying this employ David Ayer to do this. I know it sounds stupid, but the guy, the beekeeper, he knows something. He's got something going on up there.

I don't know what it is, but he's got something. These trauma movies need a little bit of grit and gristle on them. That's fine. Jason's good. Kicking a dude through a wall to a nine-inch nail song is pretty cool.

Yeah, I'm okay with that. Big thumbs up. I do say the music is incredible in this. It's amazing. I have the vinyl. You know, I go see, I saw 9-inch Nails, and they played a song from it, and it was amazing. Oh, did they really? That's right.

Yeah. Yeah, and I'm going to go see them again soon. Ooh, nice. They, that was definitely like a negotiating tactic because it was definitely like a, okay, we'll do a Trent, Resner, Addick, Rosh, to the score. If they do it as 9-inch Nails, they have to be producers. And they are producers on this movie. That was definitely, definitely got some points on the back end. So what was the, what was the, like, did anybody,

read about why that was the case? Like, why is it not just those two? I mean, I think to get people talking, it's cool. And it's cool. They said it allowed them to, it allowed them as composers to be grittier and cooler. Oh, so yeah, if you're using like the nine inch nails moniker,

you can kind of change the music a little bit. The last movie was, you know, deaf punk and I feel like they wanted to go with the whole band trajectory. Yeah, by the way, it sounds like Nine Inch Nails is finally working on a new album to probably distance themselves from this film. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is that he's singing.

That's a big difference. Yeah, that's a huge difference. I was like, oh, okay. Now I missed the voice. Here we go. So this big laser shoots out from a helicopter and gax, Greta Lee right in the fucking back. It's kind of like an alien abduction sort of thing. She gets pulled into the grid here.

Well, I would be like, hey boss, you sure I'm not killing this lady? No, no, it's fine. She'll just, all right? I'm not going to go to jail, right? No, no, you're fine. Just shoot her with that laser. Dude, this guy will be... Well, at least this technology has been proven

functional since 1982. It's the safest thing they got that helicopter. That's true. I mean, this guy would be probably driving around shooting every attractive woman into his dungeon. I was going to say, I think a grid gun would be highly illegal. An actual gun that can do this?

That seems like there would have to be a whole new set of laws we'd have to start thinking of it. Well, laws don't matter. Well, that's a fair point there. Dillinger Systems is now a defense contractor. Ergo they operate outside of the law. That's true. We're sending Venezuela into the grid, the whole fucking thing.

Wow, that would be pretty impressive. I've enlisted my friend and computer hacker slash magician David Copperfield. We are going to make the country Venezuela disappear. I mean, fucking the grid is more humane than Seacott, so I'll take it. Might as well send people there. Yeah, I mean, exactly. And there'll be a rapist there.

wrong. So Elizabeth Dillinger, a little pissed off here at her little golden child. How could you be so careless? And what she says to him is, changing the world keeps the Dillinger Corporation relevant, but it can also destroy them. And she goes, and you should know the difference. Man, when she turns on her English accent, look out.

Just look out. Look out below. You can't just hack Encom. oops Oopie I want one more scene of her Like going to the board And taking it over or something

Because there is a scene She comes for Yes There was like In the story she does go to the board At one But there's this whole scene where she's like I've just been talking to the board

They're not happy with it And I was like Come on you can have some Maybe That's where you go to the board And uh oh Bruce Boxleitner somehow Has been like

You know convinced to come over to Dillinger or whatever. Like that would be a cool reveal and my man's getting a paycheck. I like the idea like we're like in the Disney offices and we're like trying to pitch him. We'll script doc your movie. And then some it's a lowly security guard. Right.

He picks up the keys and who is it? It's Bruce Boxliner. And then all of the sudden. Who are you talking about? All right. That didn't work for you. So Ares goes to a pizza place. Right.

He's exploring his humanity. Wow, I love pizza. And who is the guy behind him? the register at the pizza. It's Bruce Boxline, right? Who is that? You keep bringing him up. Who is that? Greta Lee wakes up naked and she goes to, you know, it's a

really, just a sexy walk across her apartment to the cigarette because they had a rough night of sex. And the guy in the shower calls out, hey, babe, I didn't hurt you last night, right? And who's the guy in the shower? It's Bruce Boxlight. Again, I feel like, you ever see Mad Men

the Carousel? I feel like I'm just going around you. What is a Bruce box lighter? Alan Bradley, Tron, aka Tron, hello. Picture this. It's the end of the movie. Aries is a free real boy. And he's, I don't know, let's say Mexico. He's at a cafe.

He's writing a dumb letter. He goes to the post office box. And he puts a little post office flap open, goes to put his letter in a hand. Comes out, you see. And someone else is about to mail a letter at the same time. And that second hand belongs to You guessed it. Bruce Boxer.

I'm going to say no to the project in total because I really just had one question and you didn't answer it. Listen, I'll tell you, look, in the real world, there's a non-zero chance that some of the people that said yes to this movie had never seen a single fucking Tron movie. Oh, no, no. Oh, absolutely. 100%. I'm not sure if Trent Resner's seen the Tron movie. Trent Resner seen the Tron. I really don't know. I really do not know. Oh, he likes, I'm sure he's okay with Daff Pump. Unless you think there's a rivalry. Ooh, maybe. Between daft punk and nine inch nails.

Daft punk shirt, Greta Lee is wearing a daff punk shirt in this movie. Because we love all of our Easter eggs. There's so many. We love a good Easter eggs. There's a Shaddix van, which is a reference to a character named Shaddix that was in the cartoon of Tron. They did this in Legacy as well. There was Dumont like waste management, which was the penis head guy from the first

movie. Yeah, they love Easter eggs in the Tron world. There's a Mead Mobius thing because they were both production designers on the first movie. Like, you know, it's all there. Easter egg! The hilarious sequel setup in the post-credit scene has another one where we say David Warner's grid name at the end. It's whisper. Sark.

Sark. Yes. So Eve is digitally restored in the grid, and she's not activated, which I thought was an interesting touch here. get the identity disc placed into her back like some sort of wind-up toy. Athena, not thrilled with this. Doesn't like what's going on here. And I love she's like, where am I? And he's like, Dillinger system central processing unit.

I'm acting. And basically Dillinger is like, you have to get, she has the information in her. So if you get it out of her and they realize it will kill her to get it out of her. And then Dillinger is like, I don't know, dude. I thought I killed this lady. times. It's fine. I don't know. I just, I'm well okay with killing this lady. I told a person to shoot her.

I don't know what. After that, I don't know what I have to do. And there's not even a single line of like reunite her with her sister. Come on. Yeah, there you go. That would be a nice dastardly villain thing to say. Yeah. Because he's not fully mustache twirling and he kind of just needs to be. You know what I mean? He needs to be like openly saying things like, I don't give a shit if she does. I don't mean. You have to use profanity, but like, he needs to be more evil than he is coded as being in this movie.

So he gets the assignment there. He's not thrilled with it. The big giant head turns off. And he quotes Frankenstein to no one in the room. He's like, I am fearless and therefore powerful. And he goes back out. What's that? What'd you say?

And he's like, oh, yeah, I couldn't get a hold of Julian. He's stuck in traffic. He's at the opera. he's whatever that other one was up in the hill singing a song or something I gave indispoised Indisposed yeah I gave you an order hold the extraction Programs dismissed like it's some bullshit military

It's so unbelievable This script with that kind of stuff in it And then she goes behind his back and Dillinger's like oh I guess he is Because he's gone back and forth He's been noticing that Ares has some like human feelings And he's like that's it he's off the fuck Is Rocker you got to kill him both and you have to get the information for me.

There's a lot of Terminator slash Aladdin do you trust me nonsense in this movie? Constantly, that's like the crux of the movies. Do you trust me? It's like, I don't care, man. Let's get going. I can show you the world. I can show you the world as a friend.

As a friend. I was only a good friend. Totally a passionate buddy. There's a question I had around. here because this is in the scene where Julian is talking to him from the real world into the grid or whatever he's talking like we see Evan Peters talking right

like the actor not just the big digital head like he's talking but at times he's also typing and I was like is he saying the things he's typing that's really stupid like why would you have to do that like in this with this technology this guy should not have to use a keyboard virtual keyboard or otherwise. Because it's so exciting. Isn't it cinematic when he yells?

Ah, pressing key. Enter. Yeah, space bar. Space bar. Yeah. Space bar again. Space bar again. Daly.

Delete. I love hitting enter in the morning. Boom, boom, boom. Oh, watch out, grid. Tab, tab to tab, tab. Tab space. Taking shit. I'm taking a shit right now.

I'm taking a shit right now. Right before a shower. A shower, shower. Athena calls her, calls him, yeah. She trusts him as a coworker and as a colleague and as a well-wisher. Certainly not as a romantic partner. And they go on this fun, exciting chase. I do think it's the best part of the movie by it.

This is quite a bit of a gas station? Oh, no, no, no, the water grid thing. Oh, the water grid. What happens is, what happens at one, she, he, there's no trust there. She's like, probably not is the answer. she gives both times. But so Athena gets the new directive, delete both of them. Right.

So this pretty cool move, yeah, she fucking totally narcs on him. Cool move here, though. Jared Leto takes out his disc, which they're like triangular and they can have blades in them, I guess. Sure. And I do like the move if he just drops it onto the floor and it deletes the platform, which is great. But this is the weird thing.

This is where they hold hands. Yes. And then they drop through the floor and he immediately just lets her go and she falls on her. It's like, what were you fucking hold their hand for then? And it falls into like actual like water, which looks cool. You know, Steve, I thought it was going to be like Superman with that cube water. What was that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, the, oh, the, whatever. Oh, when they're in the river. Yes, the weird mystic, you know, between the space between spaces. Nether spaces, river, whatever. Yeah, yeah. We love cube water in all movies. It should be in all movies, I think. I guess Tron 1 actually does have regular water in the grid.

So, yeah. So this makes sense. It makes sense. It's a cool little... It was like what they drink it in Tron to like restore themselves or something. Sure. Yeah. They cared about things back in those days.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's storytelling. Being able to see like the light cycle come together underwater, I think is really rad. And we're doing the same thing we venture to do in both the other Tron movies at one point in other's head towards the transfer portal is the idea here. Dude, this is a really bad fucking eating. line. She's just got to go, Dillinger told you to delete me.

Oh, God damn. Are you both robots? What the fuck's happening? Great question, dude. But this is where Ariz confesses, you know, because she's like, this fucking code, man, it's going to destroy everything in his hands. And he's like, no, like, I just want it for myself. And he's like, so here's the deal. I will get you out of here if you give me the code, is the idea.

This is the easiest thing to renegan. with a stupid computer program. Like, oh, shit, man. It took me longer than 29 minutes. Oops, I'm so sorry. You're dead now. If Clippy, if Clippy wants something from me, Clippy ain't getting it.

Exactly. Clippy. Please, Eric, if you, I'll fix the grammar in your letter if you make me real. Looks like you're writing a postcard to a friend, I guess. But yeah, they drive the cycle down

into like a hole in the water which I didn't super understand. I guess that's like maybe the base of the transfer portal or something like that. Dude, it's holy water. Oh, there you go. Oh, that's kind. I see what you did.

Holy rusted metal batman. Yes, exactly. Oh, it's a little holes. But yeah, so the transfer sort of initiates or whatever and everyone in the Dillinger office is like freaking out about it and the laser goes off. in. Ariz immediately like jumps out.

They, they come together in like these dark black like molds kind of deal. It actually is a lot like 3D printing. Like it prints like a whole thing and then you got to like break off parts of it. Like that's exactly what this is. For the rest of her Eve human life, she's not really a person in. She's something else. Whatever that, you know what I mean? Like whatever the real

biological material she was is no longer. Yeah, she doesn't even get to turn. She didn't even get to turn into a god being the way he does. Exactly. Special suit. He doesn't get the like the, the white Power Ranger. Dude, I thought about the White Power Ranger too. Are you kidding me? It's very obvious that that's what they're going to do.

God. I think that guy died. He did. I think he did. Tommy the White and Green Ranger. Jason David Frank, I believe. Sorry. Was that it was that a memory poll? I believe. Did you not use the internet for that? I did not. Yeah. Oh, man. So, uh, Evan Peters, great dumb line here. I just got double crossed by my program.

28 minutes to give him the code. I wrote down Evan Peters screaming like a little bitch. Because that's a lot of just what the character does at the back half of this movie is just whine and bitch. Oh, Ares fights the security detail. That's, I guess, kind of interesting for five seconds. When you're getting Evan Peters, you are paying for a lot of whining and screaming. Just generally, like I think he, I think he, he's a very good actor.

But when you get him in this kind of register, it's always the screaming and the whining. It's all this shit. And it's not my favorite thing. He's fun in those latter X-Men movies as Quicksilver. He's really great on Mayor of East Town as the boyfriend cop guy. Oh, sure. I forgot about that.

And that's a very different Evan Peters performance. That's a very subdued drinking yingling kind of a deal, which is very, you know, I'd like more of that, but there's no room for that in today's way to the world. And they'll be great if they go, you know, I mean, Trond Legacy has a bar on it. Why can't we go get sling some yinglings? This tastes like shit. Yeah.

Tastes like shit in the real world and the grid. Some reason it tastes better in the grid, though. The only beer I could create was yingling, unfortunately. Okay, it's okay to like a beer, all right? I don't want Philly coming after us. So Julian makes Athena master control. He brings her out in the real world. she gets this cool flying device

which is pretty rad or like a hang glider kind of thing and then she jumps he says you have to bring her back bring them back you have to kill him and digitize her by any means necessary it's kind of or whatever

you know it's very important by any means necessary by the way guys there's zero chance of them driving from wherever the fuck this like mountainous region is to the office stopping at the gas station for a while at 29 minutes to the

Rez, you're not making it, dude. That's a fictional commute you're creating. But the line I wanted to get in, when she jumps off the platform, he goes, that is the coolest thing I have ever seen and is immediately met with a slap across the face by his mother. It was actually Gillian Anderson just slapping him for the line delivery. That was terrible. And it was the only time in Evan Peters' presence in this movie where I was jealous of him.

but yeah we're fucking race into the n-com building here we found the code on flin's server and yeah aries is like this shitbox van we're driving in isn't optimal we've got to get so he's able to do all these like distance calculations and stuff in his head and he's sort to become like data at this point yeah yes yes big time yeah and uh she goes to a gas station she uses gamer magazine monthly the printed gamer magazine that she is on the cover of and is like, hey, I'm a billionaire and I'll wire you all this much.

She's not doing shit. She's definitely ripping this poor guy off. Absolutely. And 10K, that's nothing for you, lady. The rich get richer. He's never seen this Honda Civic again. This fucking thing is gone. This thing is in the river.

I'm sorry. Takes his phone. They borrow the car to. Calls Seth to bring the particle laser to the M-com building in 15 minutes or else this guy is dead forever. And it's like, I think you're dying forever, dude.

You've got another guy trying to get there on time. If I'm fucking Eve, I'm like, oh, yes. Oh, my God, yes, we're in such a big hurry. Oops, I have to go to the bathroom. I'll be right out, Aries. I'll be right out. I was like, oh, my God, it's like five more minutes. I'm going to die.

Sorry, she's washing her hands. Just fuck this dude over. Who cares? Yeah. But, you know, they've already bonded, right? Because they're talking about stuff like, were you mad you were making games while your sister was changing the world? Yeah, like that kind of...

Well, he does this big exposition, empathetic dump of like, well, you always thought you were inferior to her and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, this is not in the movie, Jared Leto. I forgot... At all. They forgot to put this in the movie

and you saying it on a car ride does not make it in the movie. You need a prologue of the two sisters like in an income boardroom where they just have a scene and maybe there's an argument about the direction and it's like, you know, put up a little thing 10 years ago.

They have this argument. She wants to do one thing with the business, and Greta wants to keep making video games and whatnot, you know. You know, I'm going through this script here. And I, you know, I love this scene with the sisters. It's so good. And I just wish that a more famous person were saying these words. Is that at all possible that we could have a more famous person?

Oh, I got an idea. It's the two of them. They're talking, right? They're figuring out one wants to do video games. One obviously wants to do the medical stuff. And the arbiter of this conversation, the guy turns around at a boardroom chair. It's Bruce Boxlighter.

Oh. Oh. Oh. I really need to. I still don't know who that is. Well, no idea. And I really wish somebody would tell me. It would be great.

We're not going to get Bruce Boxlighter because, you know, we don't want all the fans are going to be storming outside. We're not going to be able to paparazzi alone. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're going to need all these assistant ADs telling people the crowd to step back 10 feet. We got Bruce Baxlightner in our movie. Got a step back 10. feet. Yes, I know Bruce, that's Bruce Boxlightner. It's a huge deal, obviously, but Ma, get out of the shot. No, this is Bruce Box Lightner's moment, Ma. You got to get out of

the shot now. Also on this car ride, we have the Depeche Mode conversation, how their brand of timeless catchy electro pop is deeply invigorated or whatever. You just have to go with the most obvious cut, like just can't get it like a big poppy note. You can't even give me a decent cut here. Deep point, please. Even your own personal Jesus, someone with some fucking teeth to it. You know what I mean? But also, like, it's just, I'm so sick of the fucking 80s, man. Like, you were making fun of Frankenstein before, which you should because it's underdeveloped.

But at least it's a fucking book. I'm just sick of the, of Depeche Mode and the Goonies and whatever else we have to shove in these fucking horseshit movies. Well, you're going to love the part of the film we're at right now, Steve, because this is where we get to the Kevin Flynn's office, which has been oddly. preserved. Like I'm watching, I'm going to the museum of the moving image looking at the fucking Mad Men set. Whatever

this shit is. It's so stupid. And there's a thing, on the plaque, it says, like, dedicated to Sam Flynn. Who just left for personal reason? Yeah, sure. Question mark on all that. Yeah. Well, he went to go fucking bang Olivia Wilde here to Kingdom Come. That's the end of his story.

He's a fucking God in the computer realm. That's fucking neat. If you have a choice, please. Very simple. Oh, you think Sam went back? which one's Sam? Sam is the son. I think Jeff, I think they're all in there.

Well, no, but the end of legacy is Sam and Olivia Wilde's character, Cora, get to the real world and hop on a motorcycle and get out of it. Oh, no, no, they're going back.

They wanted to get in the real world. Okay, Chris. Jeff Bridges, Karen Flint, you know, Kevin Flint sacrifices himself at the end. He is presumed dead. So I don't know what computer ghost

this is supposed to be. I think that's literally, when we get to that, there is a line that makes me think he's supposed to be like a computer goes. Which is, it's just the laziest thing. There was a finality in that last sequel. Yep. Yeah, he's got, well, I mean, he clearly, and he still has

power in this realm. That's what he does at the end, he does a fucking thing that it's a god being. He's a godbe. Like, I just keep him fucking dead and make him on a computer screen in there like, you know, I always knew someone would come looking for that permanence code. Yep, exactly.

You're just looking at a holograph. graphic projection of one of the coolest dudes to ever walk the grid. Yes, and then it can't interact with him and be like, that's cool, man. I love that you like Depeche mode. You're just so lucky because guess what? I can do something

that's impossible. I'm going to make you a real boy, Pinocchio. I didn't even care for Bill and Ted that much, but you keep talking about it. I guess totally awesome. 80s outrageous. Awesome. I suppose you kind of are an excellent adventure right now.

Let's pray it doesn't become a bogus journey. Because if it becomes a bogus journey, you might have to then face the music. No, I'm not going to read any Brett Easton Ellis. No, I'm not going to do that. You keep that. That's nice for you. So the whole thing is, like,

we're going to get him into the Flynn grid, they call it. We're getting the laser ready to go. But then Athena shows up outside the office. And he's like, change your plans. And he, like, runs to go attack her and, like, jumps out. And then, like, fucking Greta Lee's like, no, I don't think so. We got a movie to do. And shoots this dude with the laser right before he can get to her.

And he gets pulled into the Flynn grid. And honestly, I think this is kind of cool. I like the way this all looked. I don't like the Jeff Bridges cameo in it. But it was so, I don't know, a little bit like a warm bath situation. Like looking at all the simple graphics and the cool little bit that's helping him. and whatnot. You know, he sort of took me right back, you know. Yeah, yeah.

By the way, Athena also fuels water on her from the sprinkler system before she derezes. And that's like, oh my God, I understand what he was talking about. This water is fucking nuts. You have water in the grid, asshole. You do. You do have water in the grid asshole. We got to remember, though, the reason that that sprinkler is going off is because she has done a 9-11 with her fucking jetpack thing and crashed it into the office.

not killing anyone. No. She fucking throws the Seth character like up against a wall and I was like, that dude should be dead. Not the last 9-11, by the way. Not the last 9-11 we have in this wonderful little

picture. And I mean, no one is seeing this like, I mean, she's in a full-on like, I don't even know what predator-esque like fucking glider suit. No one's like, hey man. Like, again, like the hot dog. I just need somebody in a business meeting.

And I want those quarterly projects. the fuck is that. You know what I mean? Like pay Michael Bay his money. Pay him his fucking money and get him to put the hot dog. You are not, you are not going to get Michael Bay interested in directing a third Tron movie. I'm sorry.

If you give him the right amount of money, I can see him doing it. But it's got to be the right amount of money. I mean, you could have a bad line. Like, oh, that must be one of those waymos or those new, new whatever. Yeah. The Flynn grid, by the way, was when I, I,

the first time I noticed that the Disney Plus stream was doing the full frame for IMAX presentation and then back to Letterbox when not. We go in the Flynn Gritigas full IMAX right here. And dude, this is the worst of it. We've been talking about various actors doing deliveries and these movies and whatnot. In this movie, this is the one. This is the worst one. Jared Leto talking to no one. Looking around just goes, the 80s.

That's what are you doing? Who is that for? Hey, Ghostbusters, am I right, everybody? That's pretty good. I love this, I grid. Oh, wow, hey, everybody. Looks like we're trading places. Oh, wow, hey, stop jerking in that caddy shack.

Oh, open the door and come into my bow house. Is that a movie? It's a goth band. Oh, yes, the goth band, Bauhaus. Great band. Yeah, so that dead-eyed fucking line. But then we get, it's got a classic light bike, which is like a cool little retro thing or whatever.

The news in the real world is that everybody thinks that Dillinger did a fucking terrorist attack on N-com, which is very funny. Right, and it's about to be a bigger one because Athena immediately gets out of the grid again, starts printing the giant recognizer, the big flying two-legs. guy. And this is when Julian Anderson tries to put a stop to it, but then the movie puts a stop to her by Athena stabbing her in the stomach. Kind of sexually.

Yeah, well, don't worry. She'll be back in the grid in another movie, maybe. Impetiment eliminated, she says, which is pretty cool. And then, uh-oh, override denied. Julian is so fucked because as you pointed out, Steve, yes, he

made the, uh, the gin-esque mistake of saying, by any means, and she's taking that literally, which means killing his mother. Didn't see that coming. What to do? Oh, you trillionaire hacker, douchebag, by any means necessary, you say.

Would that include killing your mother sexually? You know, other guys are a lot more broken up about this. You're, uh, I guess you hold it all in. You're one of those guys, huh? Oh, okay. And, you know, he's very upset, but she's got,

like two underlings too, and she makes the the recognizer? Yes, recogniser. Correct. You recognize something. Mm-hmm. Got it. But while that's going on, we go back into the Flynn grid and clearly he's being watched by somebody here and we're looking what's going on. And you know what's coming right here. We see the

penthouse. There's the Pianney and in comes Digital Flynn Greetings Program Huh Oh yeah Uh huh Hey before you leave

Could you do me a Favorite Kill Me Because this fucking limbo shit Is horrible It's no way to live Can you set all of this On fire

Is it possible To burn it all down Every minute in your world Is a hundred in mine Help Please help I regret saving my son's life.

This purgatory is a real bummer. You know that little broopy guy? I can't even fuck that thing. I've cried every way from Cindy. Can't even catch him to see if I could fuck him. He's a rascally one. Get back here, bitch. My son stole the woman I was sleeping with.

Sure. Yeah. But you do know that Donald Trump is president out here. Oh, 80s. Totally awesome. Oh, Christ. And, you know, there's this dialogue about like, oh, you got out, you were somewhere in between before you got to this grid.

So you've experienced the real world and life. And what do you think about that? It's hard to put in a nutshell. You could say that again, man. It's hard to put in a nutshell. That's a data joke. It is absolutely a day to do. No, no, it's classic humor.

The line, by the way, that made me think that he was like a fucking ghost or a security hologramer. whatever, as he says to him, Flynn says to Ares, I exist in this moment because you do. And in my head, I was like, the hell does that mean? Great, dude, great question. I guess whenever someone walks into the classic red, he's just like, well, I'm back to being alive for some reason. I mean, just, God damn it, there's got to be a line where it's like, yeah, I look like the old timer, but I'm just a backup security code.

Yeah, I was sentenced to the Reston Department. Oh man, the good old RITD, dude. And then you know who's the fucking head of, all right? So we got an idea. It's the Rested Tron Department, right? Yes, yeah. All these old, old former trons come back and all these, all of our great friends, Jeff Bridges is there, Garrett Headland, you know, I love you a wild. Jared Lido back.

And the head of the department, guess what? It's Bruce Boxline. Oh, yes. I'm on board. Again. I like that. This guy again. Okay.

And he's asking for this code because things have been a little strange lately. But we go back into the real world. And yeah, the recognizer is flying towards us right here. I do like Hassan here seeing the recognizer. Because there's a moment somewhere, it doesn't matter, where Greta's character is trying to explain to him like the grid and there's all these living programs. And he, like, thinks she's insane. And then this, like, kaiju-sized recognizer comes around the corner and he's like, oh, got it.

It's all totally real. And yeah, he comes from the deleted scenes and she catches him up. And then like the rest of the movie, these three characters, which Hassan Minaj, the Wolead from the Yellow Jackets and her wacky sidekick, who all could have been one character. Yeah, that's true. Are sitting side by side by side doing the same thing and talking to each other. Oh, God. It's just the absolute blurst. So Eve says, you know, they have to destroy Athena with. her own laser,

but she's going to run away and distract Athena who is piloting the recognizer. Yes. You know, while you guys get the laser, you know, rebuilt and reconfigured or whatever. To your Kaiju point,

like, I want more of this running around, like showing the consequences of this and what it, and I wanted a real battle or something. It's just a recognizer going on a joyride down the street. That's it. Here's the thing. I'm not saying I need a BVS 75, 9-11.

Just give me like three, four, nine eleven. I'll take three to twenty. Three to twenty. And that's the only thing too, actually. It happens earlier in the movie, like at some point, during the water glider fight, she's like, I shall release the drones. And the drones go out, and they're really efficient,

they move around. And then later in this movie, she does the same thing. Yep. And it's somewhere, someone's got to be like, you know, those drones are really good because they don't have like faces and hair and like whatever. Like they actually just are a little computer things and don't have feelings and go around to do what I fucking tell them to do.

Maybe that makes more sense than the cavity commercial I've made inside my computer. But speaking of feelings, we cut back to Aries and Flynn there. And it's like, people born this century don't even know Mozart, man. Yeah. Well, I know Mozart. I just prefer Depeche Mode robot acting. Yeah. So it's like, what the hell do you like about that?

I can't put it into words, my love of Depeche Mode. It's a feeling. Very good, man. Very good. Music for the masses and black celebration, sure. But there was a severe drop off after a while, you know. Yes, Violator, of course, a classic. We all know. What's that, man, you're playing, can't get enough on repeat one.

Yeah, you don't deserve consciousness. I mean, come on, that's not really Depeche mode. How is it? No. A full album repeat is one thing, but a single track review, you're a fucking loser. You're a fake fan. I'm not trying to be a gatekeeper, but I'm actually a gatekeeper from keeping you from being alive.

You know what? Just name one song from Ultra. Just one song from Ultra. Just one. You know, it's just stay here. You know, it'll be good. We'll try to fuck the bit. Maybe if you grab it, I could fuck.

It's only even hard with two hands. Now we've got four. Just hold it from. We'll get them, right? Maybe we'll throw a digital net on them. And then you take them in your hands. And I fuck them. And then after I'm done fucking him, I'll take them.

And then you can fuck them. Yeah. And maybe then I'll give you that P code, all right? You know what? Maybe Mozart isn't so bad. Or if he's just like, you know what, it's been a long time to get a digital pregatory,

you know, your permanence code. And we need a little something from you. What's that? I'm blow down. Run Kevin Bacon protocol. Oh, man. You know, the funny thing is,

I, over the holidays, I picked up the, the TNG movie box set and was going through those again and reliving all the fun adventures. And in that, of course, is like starting with generations

as data getting the emotion chip again and all that stuff. And there's so much in that, that's so much, it's so more well written about data processing feelings for the first time. And there is, there's even a conversation.

I can't remember which movie. It's all kind of, it runs to gay, because I did all four movies and then the third season of Picard. So it's all like one thing. Dang. But he has a moment with Picard at one point where he like, he literally can't think of what the feeling is.

He's confused. And it's just, it's so much better than this like, I cannot put my love of Depeche Mode into words. Well, it's always, it's one of those things where like, it's a lot harder than you think it is to write a robot that's trying to be a person.

And it is a lot harder than you think it is to act as a robot trying to be a person. Yes. There's, there's nuance there that you kind of, need to find or else you're just doing what Andrew just did, which is pretty fucking bad, you know? Yeah, exactly. There's the funniest quick cutback

to the real world happens right here. It's poor fucking Elizabeth dying from this stab wound and Evan Peters is like, just hold on, mom, just hold on. He's like putting a fucking coat on the wound or whatever and she just goes, you did this.

Nice. Eat the shit, kid. It'd be great if he's trying to solve, oh, fix you, mom, he's putting all these floppy disks in her I'll fix you I'll make you, mom She's just What are you doing?

Thumb drives It'll fix you It'll fix it Stop it You imbeciles Stop it I like the sequence With the jets

I think that's really cool I like how The drones position themselves In such a way Where like the jets Can't change their altitude Or they will cut their own wings off And then both the guys

Need to eject out of the plane And everything Those guys are Trent Resdenor and Atticus Ross. They did Cammy. Oh, really? Oh, that's cool. That's amazing. I like that. This is what we need more of. We need more spectacle. Like, what you're talking about, them coming into the real world,

that's fucking see it. Yeah. I don't like that the red beams are lasers sometimes, but then also like force fields other times. Like, Gretelie goes up to it. It's like pushing up. You guys like, no, no, lady, that's got to cut your fucking hands off. Because I've been watching the rest of the movie. It depends on the setting, I think.

Oh, I see. I got it. It's set to stun or something. Yeah, it just does all the stuff. It's set to wall. Set to delicious ribbon candy. Oh, now it's a dude. I was looking at this. I was like, ooh, that cherry-flavored ribbon candy.

I can't explain my love for fruit by the foot. That's far out, man. Rock and roll, little 90s, but that's fine. But here you go. Here's the permanence code. Or I should say the impermanence code. Or I should say the imperman. code. Oops, Chris Cameron shot his pants.

You see, Chris, because people die forever. It is a bad joke. I'm not making fun of you. It's a bad joke. I hope you're ready, man, because there's no going back. And a quick, hey, just FYI, when you come out of there, that cool outfit is going to be able to line up for some reason,

but you can take it off because whatever computer designed you created a whole man underneath. that as opposed to like a Lego that just is a head on top of an outfit, which would kind of make a lot more sense, wouldn't it? Absolutely. Yeah, that's totally true. I hadn't thought of that. Well, they're not wearing shorts. So yeah, you're right. They could have just been nothing underneath that. Exactly. He tries to take it. Oh, wait, this is all like, oh, I see. This is, this is my body. Yeah. Okay. So, like, Bridges is, like, so enamored that, like, something that he pretty much was responsible for creating, ultimately, has this. curiosity and desire to be out of the grid. And he's like, well, one go around, man.

And he goes, you know, one is all I want. And he goes, love that. You keep surprising me. And I was like, are these two even in the same fucking room? No, probably not. No, I understand just skipping Delta machine and sounds of the universe. But eventually you have to go to exciter. You have to listen to it a little bit.

Memental moray is even pretty good. That would be great if he's like, check out that. It'll blow your mind. Look it up when you're out there. God, is it all Depeche Mode? There ain't no fucking Duran, Duran, the police, nothing? And just the one song. I mean, I cannot get over it.

Bit, I met the most boring guy today. Only like one fucking song, Bit. How about it, Bit? Let's do it with me. Let's figure it out, Bit. Is that thing making noise or, am I just crazy? I think it sort of makes it

noise. It's bleeping and blupin, isn't it? I believe so. It's blippin and bloopin. So to Steve's point, like, the Ares has now spit out white as your teeth. Uh-huh. With this toothpaste that we use anyway.

Because he uses this to go through the coal gate, you see. Yeah. That's perfect. And the cavity criminals have been defeated. And now he's crest 3D white out in the real world. And in Flynn's arcade, of course. How? Now, here's the thing.

what are we even talking about? Why would this dusty office still be here? Why would that building have not been raised and turned into condominium? That's a great question because this is from the second movie. That's how Garrett Headland gets into it, which means it should be the same grid that Garrett Headland gets into, but it's not because it's actually her computer, which kind of doesn't make a ton of sense.

Oh, oh, stop caring. No, you got to stop caring. Well, Bridges has some line about when I take you out of here, it's a back door or whatever. sure but it should be connected to the, I don't know, whatever. Who cares? But he's in Flynn's Arcade.

It's from the second movie. He gets out and then it's like, oh no, my co-worker that I'm sort of quite fond of is in trouble. I better help her. Isn't that exciting, folks? And it's kind of interesting because in this moment, right, the Flynn Arcade, yeah, no, it's not,

but the Flynn Arcade exterior right here. The last time we saw it was right when Cora and Sam drive off at the end of the movie. And I will just point out that that movie does a much better job at creating an actual sort of relationship between the two of them.

Yes. You know, versus this where it's like, I have to help my friend. Like, I don't buy any of that. Was the part of the problem, like the last one was sort of romantic

so you're not going to do it in this one. It's just, well, no, it's just because we don't do it anymore. Literally, mommy's and daddy's going to have sex. Right.

Like twisters, right? They also did that sexless thing. Every handshake at the end of that movie? It's a firm handshake all the time. And I mean, I do understand like the idea of like, oh, men and women can be more than that and women don't have to just be girlfriends. All that stuff is great.

But then you have to, to Chris is what you have to replace with something. You can't just remove it. And then you have literally nothing. You have air. You've got air. Yeah. Air-ish. They love air.

They do love air. So let's get to the end of this movie here. You know, she, Athena is driving a tank now at some point because the recognizer crashed because a jet crashed into the bottom of it. so it's sort of like fell or whatever. It got 9-11 if you think of the recognizer as the building. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, you're right. Reverse 9-11.

But so he comes out of the room here, or the... This is where he gets the big suit. He transfers into the white suit happens here or whatever. And so we're just getting into this whole big fight. Athena is like, look, I'm just going to kill you, and then I will fucking come back for her. Don't even worry about it.

Aries has to do a cool three-on-one. fight right here. But this is my question about this. Oh, please. Okay. He's in the real world now. He's a real boy, all that stuff. How is he still doing all these Matrix fight moves? Because it's in his brain or something. He's literally like

flying through the ribbons of the fighters have these like big spears that are doing red shit. He should see him get hurt, he should be like John McLean and diehard won for the rest of this. Oh, no. I want to quote Eric and the director of this film. Who cares? That's the better answer to all of this.

Sure. Who cares? Why not we just get through this? I have a quick question for the what the fuck are we doing department at Disney, which is the dialogue between Athena and Ares here. We got a black woman talking about the importance of like serving and this is what the master wants. And this is what I have been programmed to do. And then he's like, you've got to rise above that and be a free person. And I'm like, this is fucking weird guys. And so it's a weird back and forth between the two of them.

I feel like swap these characters. Swap the actors, you know? Like it would be much better. Jared Leto is like a, because he's robotic throughout the entire thing. It never seems human anyway. If he had, yeah, if he had to be like the stern villain, that's a little easier of a pill to swallow. And you know, that's maybe an avenue he should explore. Just start playing the villain for a while.

Stop with this fucking hero shit. Blade Runner 2049. Get playing a villain in movies more and stop playing a villain in real life as much. How about that, Jared? Oh, he's not stopping that. That's not going to stop. Chris mentioning the Blade Runner movie, and I guess I made a joke about it earlier, but like it works better there because when you're a villain,

you're not as in front of all the fucking time. Yeah. And for the record, I don't think that he ruins that movie. I think that's a pretty great movie that he's kind of barely in. It's a, I remember really liking it. but I'm always dreading going back because I'm feeling like I'm not going to and it's so long.

Here's what I would say about it is the hangup that I had and I think everybody did in one way or another is you don't know how long the movie's going to take until you get to Decker. And you're sitting there like sort of, where's Harrison Ford? Where's Harrison Ford? And it takes a really long time

for the movie to do that. And I think if you go back to it knowing that's a thing, I think for me at least personally, that's like something takes the weight off a little bit. All right. I know Harrison's not in the whole thing. It's fine. Who cares? And you might enjoy it a little more.

I happen to think it's a pretty fantastic. I liked it a lot. Yeah, I got to enjoy that movie. I loved it when it came out. So it's probably worth a damn. So he destroys her and... We got a little bit of a fucking Luke Skywalker cut the old hand off, by the way.

Aries cuts Athena's handoff and she's like, the fuck. Which is pretty great. But, yeah. right before the death blow is about to be laid on her. Hassan has sent something to disrupt the grid, the Dillinger grid or whatever. And then all of a sudden the grid fails right at the last second.

All the drones start dropping out of the sky. And now if she dies, she dies for real, right? Is that the idea there's nothing to go back to? It's over. There's no coming back. Yeah. Really mean of him to do this. And she says, well, what's your directive now?

And Aries says, I'm totally unsure. and she goes, it just crumbles. There's not even any line about like, you know, how Ares is now, like I'm a user now. Like he's becoming a user.

Right. Yeah. You just drop that nomenclature completely in this film. Exactly. Also, I will say we were talking about, you know,

his superpowers and everything out of the grid. What you do see is him, he's, it happens twice in this movie. When he gets roughed up in the real world, yeah. They give him a, scraped up forehead that's like kind of bloodied and I was like what is any of that?

No, I don't know. Why is why does he have road rash on his forehead? It should at least be like bits like spitting out like little sparks or you fucking see inside it or something not just blood. I guess now that he's a real boy he bleeds and which means he should take that should be an extended scene of him taking this first piss like what the fuck is this? Whoa. Whoa. And he's like in a park like he doesn't he's not in the bathroom. What's happening? What is This pain, this swelling pain down here. It's stinging a little bit? What

do I do with this? What is happening here? You know, like Greta has to like spoon feed him and stuff for a while. Like he's got to be a baby man a little bit. He's got to wear diapers for a couple of weeks. He's at least got to be I don't know, kind of like an Encino man sort of thing. See that happen.

So the cops show up to Dillinger systems at this point. Julian freaks out, boots up the laser and lasers himself into the grid. And dudes, this is the funniest shot in the movie. Dude lasers himself into the grid right before the cops barge in.

Cameron just does a quick tilt down. Who's that just rotting dead on the floor? Jillian Anderson. I was a little nervous that they were going to have her survive and I'd be like, then nothing happened in this movie. Legitimate fear. Your legitimate fear, dude, absolutely.

But, you know, he writes her this postcard and it's like, now we've got some fucking, hey, Garrett Headland got some kind of check from this movie. Got more money than the Booth Boxline for fucking right. Yes, this photo of both of them. He's teeing up, we're going to

do a sequel to this where he's going to meet them. And I'm like, looking for him. Yeah. What would that even be? No. Not good is what it would be. You know what it's going to be? It's going to be a fucking six part miniseries on Disney Plus. Oh, that's a possibility. We also here get this

montage like M-com is using the P-P code to grow crops. everywhere. World hunger is cured. And you can eat an AI apple and there's nothing wrong with that. We're making drugs to cure cancer with this shit. Alternative fuel systems are being developed. That's what

AI could do. If you just give it all of your intellectual property if you let it drink up all the water and do all this stuff, it'll do that. I don't know how, but eventually it probably most likely will. We don't need trees or water anymore. That Sam Altman take any labor

loss he likes and do whatever he likes. with them and just let him talk and talk and talk and give him every every if you have money give it to him even if you're a baby and you have like a dollar you just stopped in your first lemonade stand give it to Sam Altman because he's not going to waste it I swear

he needs it it's the futures on the line folks it is he'll make the iron tree or something probably what's wild is when this massive AI bubble bursts the destruction of this country's economy is going to be

wild. It's gonna be absolutely fucking buck wild. Oh, well, anyway. But don't worry everybody, I could use Google Gemini to fucking program a tour for me to walk around a museum. You see that commercial? Yeah, yeah. Where some fucking moron is like, oh my God, we only

have so much time in the museum. Oh, hey, Gemini, create a route around the museum. I was like, why don't you use your fucking brain and eyeballs? There are also tour guides, you moron. By the way, let me read this postcard. I wrote it down. Oh, please. You wrote down the whole postcard.

Dear Eve, I've been living off grid, pun intended. And by travels, I've seen incredible things. Life is hard to put in a nutshell. The fucking third time with that. At least, wonder where we'll be in a hundred years from now, where others like me will fit into the future. Well, the world's not quite ready to meet me, but I'm meeting the world until we meet again.

Your friend, Aries. And he's also... have asked an actual AI to write that. It might have. It might have. It might have. It might have. It might have done it. And you know, they probably defended that decision that it's like, well, it's what a computer would say. It's, well, actually,

if Disney's, if the IMDB trivia is to be believed there was, they were going to have an, an AI like cartoon character that comes around in this movie. And then they were like, that would have, like, pissed people off. So we just didn't do that. Oh, yeah. Thankfully, they read the room a little bit there. And then, at the

end, when we get these credits, uh, we cut in to see Dillinger in the grid. I'll def- I hate that I'm defending this because I'm a Tron fan. Because when he's transformed into like the light suit, he gets the David Warner helmet from Tron Watt. Oh,

I see. Because he's now the evil master control and that's king of the country. You know, he's the king of castle. There is the weird like and you can barely hear. The only reason I even noticed was because the subtitles were up, but like there's a

like a woman whispers the sark name. And I was like, where's that coming from? Is there another grid ghost around here? Better call the Grid Ghostbusters. This place is horrid as far. Oh, pretty awesome 80s. You come to Grid Ghostbusters.

Albert, we'll just put that bit right back where he found out. No, no, no, no. I need it. Bitbustin makes me feel good, literally. Oh, that's the end of this disappointing movie. We'll go around the horn. here for some final thoughts, Steve Sadek.

No, I really, I think it's, Tron 1, I think, is a fun and, like, interesting 80s Curio. Would that be the, would that be the awesome 80s, Steve? That would be the awesome 80s, sorry. That would be the awesome 80s. Oh, okay. Is it totally awesome? It's a totally awesome 80s movie.

And I think it's, I, I've come to like it, not love it. The second one I do not like, and this one I outright loathe. I think it's like everything wrong with legacy sequels. It's so paint by numbers. You have like that elevator sequence, like everything's crazy and now we're in an elevator

and it's kind of awkward. So many little things I've seen in 450 movies that need to be retired from public life. I forgot about that. We're making some subtle, like, funny jokes in the elevator. She's like, oh, he's my boyfriend or whatever. And lastly, the AI, you got to read the room. I don't fuck with anything that has to do. That's even

remotely positive on AI. So there you go. That's number three. There it is. Chris Cabin. I mean, it's fucking worth. I mean, there's nothing. I mean, it's nothing here. Like, I don't know. You have to be, like, really scraping the fucking, the last bits of the bag to get this fucking, to get anything.

Oh, it was pun intended, by the way? Any high out of this fucking Tron fucking shit at this point. Like, I really, like, there's nothing left. What is this? Like, and, again, I really want to highlight. Jared Leto, it means it's going to be bad. If he's there more than likely. it means it's going to, if he's higher,

higher up on the cast list he is, the worst it's going to be. And I just, it might just is the worst. The vibe he brings on set, I think probably sours a lot of production. A bunch of a bunch of shit. Like it affects so much different things.

Allegedly. I mean, that's the thing. There's plenty of articles written. There's plenty of all shit that we allegedly quote unquote, but man, it's got to fucking drive you insane to deal with this shit as a professional. No,

for me. Mr. Siska. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much a no for me, but I can understand. Like, I think maybe check it out just because of the music. You know what? Put it on mute and just play the Nine Inch Nails album over it. Yeah. I think maybe you have

because I like the music. I like some of the visuals. I like the plaque brigade fighting the tooth decay, Steve. But it's definitely overall a leans no for me. And it was very disappointing because big Tron head over here. Yeah, I will say, Eric, you kind of took my suggestion,

which was, yeah, going to be just mute it and play the soundtrack while you watch it. Because again, I'm alone on this. I liked all the visuals. I thought it was great. I did not mind the red. I thought it was a cool change-up. How many movies can we watch where it's cool sky blue? So I liked all that. The score and the soundtrack are both amazing. I'll also say, looking at what's coming up, our man, Mr. Leto, this year, will be playing Skeletor in the Masters of the Universe. Oh, boy. But then we got some in-development stuff,

two hilarious things that I just want to bring up here. He is supposedly in two different biopics, two separate, completely separate projects. Oh, great. He's set to portray, and this is in development, so who the fuck knows how long either of these are, in biopics about Carl Lagerfeld and Andy Warhol. Oh, wow.

Well, you know, he was, I will say he was entertaining in the house of Gucci. So maybe if he goes Buck Wild with it, I don't know. Yes. He was entertaining in the house of Gucci. I'll give him that. He was. Boof. Yeah.

So, you know, it's the lightest of recommends. And I would honestly recommend spin the soundtrack repeatedly while you just get super stoned and watch the visuals. Because otherwise, like, there's just not a movie here. And I do really like the other two movies. Like, I'm not a Tron hater. And this was, I was so bummed. when I started seeing how many negative reactions this movie was getting because I was legitimately so excited for it.

Even knowing the Jared Leto of it all, I was like, it's a Tron thing, it looks cool, the soundtrack can be banging, but this, you know, with legacy, I can let go with some of the stupidness, with the story and whatever. This I just couldn't do it. It was a complete letdown from script. And the script, it's just all top down from there.

That affects the performances and makes them lackluster. It makes the whole thing just not entertaining it in any way, shape, or form. So a huge bummer all around there, but that is going to do it for this conversation about Tron Aries. If you want more, We Hate Movies, including ad-free episodes of WHM shows just like this one. You can head over to the Patreon. Patreon.com slash We Hate Movies, where if you are listening to this on the day it comes out, which is Tuesday, the 13th of January. And just a few days from now, we will be releasing an epic We Love Movies episode all about Paul Thomas Anderson's one battle after another. I'm pretty sure around the horn, it was all of our best movie of the year. year? Did anybody have anything else on top? It's my best movie the year.

Marty Supreme got pretty close, but... Oh, okay. But yeah, very excited to get one battle out. Last week, Chris Cabin, we released a really special Melrose 210. Oh, a double 90210.00, or no Melrose place this time, because we are dealing with commencement, and we are dealing with a fucking clip show. Which is a nightmare, but we,

I think, had a lot of fun with it. It's a really great episode. Guess what? I had a what? Donna Martin graduate She does. She does folks, it happened. Bailed it. Steve Sadek next week, next Thursday we got a pretty rad animation damnation coming out. We do.

It's on the new King of the Hill reboot, which I as of this recording have not yet seen but Andrew Juppin loves quite a bit. I do and I really hope at this point I haven't been like hyping it up too much for you guys but I was like, King of the Hill was a show that I watched maybe like of the initial run like half of and then fell off.

So going back to it, I was like, this is really good and I need to go back and just finish that show or just rewatch it from the jump. It's very funny. And I do genuinely hope that you guys like it and I haven't ruined it by hyping it up too much. I like it a little bit at least.

And that same week, next week, Eric Siska, on Friday, we got a new Gleep glossary coming out. And Eric, I'm looking at the title of this and I don't know what the fuck's going on. It sounds like it's going to be a droid, but it's not. This is sort of a tie, almost a tie into this movie, Tron Ares. It's Dorsk 81.

Okay, he's a Jedi Knight. But he's one of 83 clones. Oh. So this is a guy that keeps showing up. Very interesting. We haven't recorded this yet. I've yet to learn about Dorskady one. Very excited about that.

And then the week after that, we do have the Nexus, which will be back to, or is it? Where are we out with the Nexus? No, the new Nexus that's coming out this month is actually a very cool one. Yes. Yes. Double Wharf. Yes.

Double Wharf. We are doing the, it is the season finale of season four into the season premiere of season five. It is Picard and Worf dealing with the Klingon Civil War. They get enmeshed in that in very interesting ways. It's the top tier political thriller stuff that you love with Star Trek the next generation. And then the next day, very cool, the Q1 release of our latest video show that we came up with late last year. Scarety Cats returns with an episode that the Patreon supporters all voted. for we just laid it down yesterday. It's a

fucking total banger on 28 years later. Yes. Had a lot of fun with that. That episode's video and audio. You know, you can choose your experience there. And if you, you know, unlock that tier, you're not only unlocked that, you can also watch our previous video and audio show of Barbarian.

Another great, this all new recent horror stuff. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're also doing these after dark hangouts, Steve. That's right. On January the 20th, I believe. Exactly. At 8 p.m. E.S.T. We're hanging out. We're just answering your questions, talking about our life experiences, showing you important parts of our body, all sorts of interesting stuff.

Who's up the day, you know? Figuring out which movies we could shoehorn Bruce Boxlightner into. And if that's not enough for you, you can see parts of our bodies in real life, Steve, on February 22nd. That's coming up fast. Los Angeles, California. We are going to be at the Hollywood improv talking Broken Arrow, the John Travolta Christian Slater movie. Yes.

Hell yeah. March 20th will be in Minneapolis at the varsity theater talking Conan the Barbarian, 1982, not the remake. No, no. And then we're rounding it out, folks. I'm so excited for this one. March 22nd in the great city of Chicago, Illinois, at the Den Theater

will be talking big. Tom Hanks is big. Yes, sir. That would be a big show too. Tickets are on sale and they're flying folks. So get in your recognizer and grab some. Get over to the website, wHMpodcast.com. The tour page is all the ticketing links.

Now, Steve Sadek, next week here on We Hate Movies next Tuesday, the show continues with another movie we watched last year. Which one is this going to be? Duncan! That is Jurassic World Rebirth. Did I get that correct, Paul? You did. That's right, Dave. That Duncan line in that trailer, I've not seen the movie yet.

Oh. Scarjokel-old, like, Duncan! It lives in my brain, Red-Free. Oh my God. Yeah, it is. I will say this about this movie. I saw it at a drive-in. Chelsea and I over the July 4th holiday weekend last year. And we took Marty. We had Marty in the car. It was a really special experience. The movie itself, I will say, of the four Jurassic World movies, it's not the worst Jurassic World movie, in my opinion. Right. So, yes. And there you go. Underline this for folks. This month is just movies we talk about now. It's this is a movie show. It's not we hate Barry. movies. Okay? Right. We're just goofing on movies. And yeah, it's, it's true because Jurassic World Rebirth does not have a fucking haunted house full of dinosaurs in it, which another Jurassic World movie definitely does. So we will get to the bottom of that and more next week when we

talk about Jurassic World Rebirth. But until then, I've been Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Gavin. Take it easy.