We Hate Movies - S16 Ep846: Ninja: Shadow of a Tear (2013, with Brandon Streussnig)

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

“Scott Adkins’ character has a short temper these days, what with the dead wife…” - SteveOn this week’s episode, “White Guy Karate” Month continues as we welcome in friend of the show, Brandon Streussnig to chat about the wild Scott Adkins martial arts sequel, Ninja: Shadow of Tear!How awesome is all the kick-ass fight choreography in this? Should we be writing ninja characters named Casey? Do all movie villains know how to play chess? Why in the world were those guys sparring on a hardwood floor? Is this one of the best Adkins films to date? And who wants to smoke some drugs out of a lightbulb? PLUS: Come train with the WHM guys at the Massive Heart Attack dojo!Ninja: Shadow of a Tear stars Scott Adkins, Kane Kosugi, Mika Hijii, Vithaya Pansringarm, Mukesh S. Bhatt, Charlie Ruedpokanon, Kazi Patrick Tang, and Shun Sugata as Goro; directed by Isaac Florentine.Don’t miss us on the road this winter when we’re in Los Angeles on February 22, Minneapolis on March 20, and Chicago on March 22! Tickets are on sale now and you’re not gonna wanna miss us, gang! Click through here and snag your tix now!Be sure to visit the WHM Merch shop over on Dashery and check out all the latest show-related designs you can slap on t-shirts, hats, coffee mugs, stickers, whatever! Make your friends jealous by flaunting some WHM merch today!Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

Hey gang, before we get to today's episode on Ninja, colon, Shadow of a Tear, just wanted to give you a couple of quick updates. First of all, and most urgently, if you're listening to this, on the day it comes out, which is indeed Tuesday, February the 10th, we got some excellent news for you coming up because on Thursday, February the 12th, just two days from now at 5 p.m. Eastern, we will be going live on our YouTube and Twitch channels to do a WHM Mailbag, which we have not done in a very long time. So get them humiliating stories in. We love reading humiliating, you know, sometimes movie-related things. sometimes not stories on the air. Those are always great. Sometimes questions, debates need to be settled, all that stuff. We will do that for you. Just write into the mailbag.

We all hate movies at gmail.com. And be sure to get those letters in by Wednesday, the 11th at noon, Eastern, just we have time to get them all selected and organized and whatnot. But it's going to be a lot of fun. It's been a long time since we've done a mailbag. So be sure to catch that. Also, of course, as always, the replay will be available on YouTube. And the audio version will get turned out, you know,

shortly after the broadcast at some point. So be on the lookout for that. in just a few days. And then also, of course, Los Angeles heads up, y'all. We are coming to you guys in just a few weeks at this point. My goodness gracious, on the 22nd of February, just a few weeks from now. We're going to be at the Hollywood Improv. We're talking Broken Arrow. It's going to be a hell of a lot of fun. We want to see you out there. Tickets on HM Podcast.com. And of course, our dates next month. You do not want to miss us in the beautiful city of Minneapolis that's going on March the 20th. That's a Friday night. We're talking about Conan the Barbarian, the Arnold Schwarzenegger. edition. You want to make sure you're watching the right one there. Minneapolis, we are very excited to get to you and entertain you all for the night. Looking forward to that big time. And then Sunday

the 22nd, we're going to be back in the great city of Chicago. We're talking about Big, the Tom Hank's movie that you all know and love. That's going to be a lot of fun. We are at the Den Theater in Chicago, and we are at the Varsity Theater in Minneapolis, by the way, forgot to plug them. Again, all tickets on sale, whMpodcast.com. And also, I want to point out all three of these shows,

have meet and greets attached to them. I think some of these venues have been biffing it with getting the information on the website properly. But all three shows, if you buy whatever they call them at the particular venue,

whether it's VIP or an all-axis, whatever the hell they say, whatever the one that's like a little more, that's the meet and greet. We are doing them. So apologies if there was some confusion there. But just wanted to confirm, like all WHM shows,

unless the venue prohibits it, which these three are not. We are doing meet and greets for all three shows after the show, so make sure you're getting the right tickets. All right, that's it for me. Let's get into it today. We welcome in our good bud, Brandon Streisning, to talk all about, yes, Scott Adkins in Ninja, colon, shadow of a tear.

Cool, man. This week on the program, White Guy Karatee Month gets into a real I've got it, by the way, situation. We're talking ninja colon, shadow of a tear. I'm Andrew Juppen. Steven Sadek. Eric Sisko, Cabin son. And Brandon Striceman.

And we hate movies. Hello everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning into the fine program, as always. That's right. White Guy Karate Month, full steam ahead. We are getting into Scott Adkins territory this week with Ninja Col and Shadow Veteer from 2013, directed by Isaac Florentine.

And the only way we could talk about Scott Adkins was to bring in one of our favorite film writers of all time to help us talk about this. Welcoming to We Hate Movies properly, because you were on OSL, Mr. Brandon Streisening. What up, bud? just great to be on here I've been a listener and a big fan of you guys

for a very long time so the feeling's mutual and I will always be happy to talk about Scott Yes I feel like we sort of need to get a little bit of And you know I watched the second one only I wasn't lost or anything like that But both Atkins and Isaac Florentine

Did collaborate for this first movie that people who have seen this Here in this room say is not that great Is that right? It's fine I don't think I think it's very plain It's you could put it on the background and just cue in for the fight scenes and you be totally okay Otherwise it is just any other video game plot it doesn't really move

This one is way better edited way more stylish And tighter I think this one is just the big thing is this is so much more about the action and not about the stupid plot shit I don't really care about it It's been a while if memory serves this one has better like production value as well Okay I like that I think two Adkins and Florentine were like not who they would become with that first movie.

Like they were still sort of finding themselves. And Florentine, I think he comes from like Power Rangers and I think you feel a little bit of that. Like on this one, you certainly feel it in his earlier movie Bridge of Dragons with Dolph Lundgren, which is filmed in like one set. But he really grew as a filmmaker between the two of them. And like that first one, Adkins American accent is terrible. It's better in this one. But I still just don't know why he, there's never a real.

reason he doesn't need to be British in any of his movies. Right. He's not even in America. Like, it's totally fine for him to be a cool British guy that's in Japan, that's going to Thailand, going to Burma, all these kinds of fun little things, you know. But then if, you know, I'm a, I'm a slubby white guy here in America and I read that. And I'm, I'm chasing that American ninja dragon that taste I had in the 90s. If I see a British guy do it, I will flip out.

Not me. This is a, this is like a red box individual I'm describing. Yes. Well, you're losing out of those divorced dollars is what you really want. Oh, that's the divorced market, which is big. Alimony to Scott Atkins. Yeah, so this one starts off in one of the best ways possible with a news on the march. The war is over.

Newsreel thing. Didn't see that coming. This big rooster crowing. I love this graphic. This whole thing's great. Brandon, this is the last, we'll see, of Casey and his ninja character, correct? up to this date? Like, because I...

Yes, yes. I want this universe. I want the prequel to whatever. This movie, this like 30-second little... Oh, going into the jungle and fight... Oh, Ninjas V-GIs. That's the movie I want. This is crazy because, you know,

actually my grandfather was stationed in Burma. He never told me about the ninja threat. People, tell me about the ninja threat in Burma. Maybe he just didn't see them, you know? They were so good. ninja unit. They came and got us little Eric. That'd be great. An extra

segment in Big Fish. It's like when I was in World War II, the ninjas you understand. Quickly, quickly, get me into the tub. I'm drying out. I need to tell you about ninjas. It sounds like we need a prequel, you know, with

Atkins playing your grandfather, Eric. Oh, my God. I think he'd be peeling potatoes the whole time. Oh, him in a shocking blonde wig. I'd love to see that. Oh, dude, that'd be awesome. Yeah, they're calling them ghost soldiers,

aka ninjas. It's so funny, it's the newsreels. It's like, yeah, these ghost soldiers, also known as ninjas, by the way. Look out for ninjas. Ninja's ancient tactics and weapons. This mysterious killing art known as ninja. Well, that's the thing.

Ninja is, and this is an ignorant white guy thing. It is a noun, a verb, an adjective, an adverb. possibly you could ninja around like you could just yeah the word ninja is very versatile it's a town in ohio yeah and in some ways you know this movie doesn't get quite there but you know they could be even

a slurred with the way you know this movie sort of approaches uh yellow peril there's a few adkins movies that do that and it's a little I don't know I don't love the guy as an actor but he's love his politics Brandon you see that new one where he's prisoner of war taken by the Japanese

Sadly, that movie's very good, but that movie has horrific politics. Yes. So this must have been after, what was that one you and I watched, Eric, that secret movie where he, like, kidnaps a girl, then he's like, by the way, I'm your father. That's a Diablo, I think. Oh, Diablo. That's the only other, like, true Scott Adkins movie I've seen him. I'm pretty ignorant to Scott Adkins. Same.

Both of that and this, I think they're probably on the higher end of the shelf. Oh, Diablo is great. Yeah. That's so good. his best. And every time I watch it, I'm like, I need to watch more of these movies. So I might need a list. Yeah, do a one-shot movies.

Benjamin's good, but the two one-shot movies, I really, really, the first one, especially, I think both of them really do fantastic work just using him as a star. Right. And as also this action guy. And you can catch up because there's one last shot coming this year, I believe. Oh, there is? Yeah, and you get Michael Jai White in that second one for a little bit. But I think he's going to be even more in the third one.

Love that, dude. too when he's popping up and stuff. So we get to, oh yeah, go ahead, dude. I was going to say, if you wanted an Atkins Primer, I think the other big one, you don't need to see any of the other movies, although I do, I think you've all seen Universal Soldier, but Universal Soldier 4 is like

genuinely an incredible. It's like an art film with action. It's bizarre that it is what it is. Is it officially the fourth one? Because wasn't there two, there were two Universal Soldier Showtime TV movies? I don't think those are canon. I don't know.

I think those are They're Canada to me, Brandon. They're universal legends now. Yeah, the expanded universe. Universal origins. Well, the whole Scott Adkins cult is something that I missed out on. And it's fascinating to see it grow online. And like when people were like, I've, you know,

I've followed you for a long time. I follow like Priscilla Page. People like that are like this movie, like Universal Soldier is better than the Godfather. And I'm like, is it actually? And now watching this, I'm like, it probably is. Like, honestly, if he's doing that in this, then I want to watch it. I think he would take off more if he didn't look exactly like the property brothers. That's exactly.

Oh, yes. Holy shit. He does look exactly like the property brother. He could do a Vinkle-Vos twin social network thing. He's kind of a low-brand, low-rend Affleck. And for years, everyone kind of made fun of that. And then they finally pulled the trigger and made him Affleck's brother in that Netflix movie. In the rip.

Yeah. Oh, is that? right? He's in the Joe Carnahan movie? Does he kick Ben through a wall? Because if so, no, no. Unfortunately, he doesn't really do anything in the movie. He's like eight, ninth on the call sheet.

Does he pick up the Dunkin Order, dude? They have one big fight in the beginning. Because he's, that's, Scott Atkins is the FBI as compared to Ben's cops. He's just, they're the local cops versus Scott Atkins's FBI. They get to a huge fight in the beginning,

but then it's mostly nothing. But like it's not Wait a second though Wait a second though It's not You're not saying Ben Affleck's doing martial arts fighting No no martial art

Just like throwing each other Oh yeah A slob knocker you mean Yes as they call it Okay Because for a second I was like That's got to be terrible Yes that's an Irish martial art

I have nowhere else to say this So I'll just say it here I was surprised to see Carnahan's name on this Because when I started up the You guys had me on screen To talk about the stunt awards a few years ago. And when I started that up, I was reaching out to any action director I could.

You know, do you want to be a part of this? I reached up to his agents and got an email back saying, nobody at here has heard or seen Joe. Heard from or seen Joe in years. We're going to tell you, apology. What? That's amazing. And I thought maybe he just had disappeared or something,

but it's nice to see that that's not the case. Oh, my God. Was he like in jail and he didn't tell anybody? He certainly has his mood swings. I got like at least three pieces of hate mail. from him when I was writing a Collider. Oh, wow. Really? Oh, yeah, that was a lot of fun.

Which movies did you pan, Chris? It wasn't even pan. It was like, I made a spelling mistake in the name of his first movie, and he emailed me about it. I was like, okay. I'll get it. Bullets, and octane, possibly? Yeah, that one, exactly. Yeah, okay.

Oh, did you confuse where the bullets and guts went and that? Probably. No, he just misspelled guns. But it's two ends. I like James. It's just like there were ninjas in Myanmar for in World War II.

And now we're off to the rate. They just want to let you know that. Just hang on to that for the last 10 minutes of this movie. Just put that in your back pocket. But yeah, we get to present day. There's we're at a dojo. Some awesome training going on here.

I've been watching so much Shaw Brothers stuff over the last couple weeks. I've just become such a lover of watching training and this would not be the case like me a few years ago like but i'm just sitting there just sopping it all up like let's let's watch these guys train it looks awesome now let me ask you this question about the first movie you got the portrait of that old timer there seemingly like he used to be the sensei at the dojo is this a dude from the first movie that gets killed yes okay yeah absolutely he's the he's the father of his wife right right and speaking of the

Shaw brothers there, Andrew. You know, this is kind of, it feels a little bit like a Shaw stock plot where it's like the warring dojos. These two dojos. Yes. Yeah, you're right. It's like, I do ninja different than you, now you must die. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really didn't look too much into this movie,

but I gotta tell you, it's very funny. If you watch this movie, you just go into it and you don't know that this dude's name is Casey. And we're just saying Casey all through this movie. It is a very funny name for a ninja. I'm sorry. Flashbacks to under siege for me.

Yeah. Oh, Casey Ryback. So this is, he is sparring with his wife, Namiko, who I believe is in the first movie. I assume, you know, that they fall in love and maybe get together at the end of that one. Oh, yeah. One thing is we find out a little later that she's pregnant.

I'd like to think that he's such a ninja. He knew she was pregnant before she did. She doesn't even know they had sex. Oh, no. No way. Good God. I was thinking more like the way that she's walking. That's not right.

Oh, okay. Could you go through that a little bit with me? What do you mean that I just didn't notice it? Was I sleeping? Was I sleep? Just tell me. That's illegal. It is, yes.

But yeah, so she is pregnant. We do learn that at some point. I don't know if you should be sparring while with child, by the way. That's another question I had. How else is the child going to learn? Oh, that's true. Thank you, Branden. Start him young.

I mean, like, usually, like, if you work in an office, you could work up to, like, right up to the end, I feel like in a dojo that's a little different. Probably, probably some different terms and conditions there for sure. So he even chopping through plasma yet. Is there a dojo maternity leave, do you think? How long have that is? It's probably better than anything in the United States. That's almost guaranteed.

Oh, that's probably a new concern for them. I'll bet you. a very new what but yeah I guess like 2019 yeah sure two weeks how about that yeah all these progressive ninja dojoes around yes let's go so I guess he goes

to this mall and these binary like congratulations I knock you up present kind of deal here and get this necklace at this jewelry store I love these dudes spying him like as this mark I love great shot the guy polishing his sunglasses and looking at the reflection to

like monitor Scott Adkins pretty cool little move right here. But we got to beat the shit out of these guys, which is awesome. But he's doing the thing. He doesn't want to do it. He doesn't. He's a ninja, dude. It's only for defense, Steve. It's only for the protection of others. And honestly, his

biggest mistake in this movie, and I believe it is also true of the first movie, is letting people live. That is one thing you always got to remember. You can't be letting that thing happen. I think they have to die. And I do got to say, I'm glad that he picked out the medallion

that looks the most like it would be from Tomb Raider. I like that it's as close as possible to that. And I love that she calls it when he gives it to her. And she's like, oh, a symbol for happiness. Yeah. Dude. And you're not going to get a lot of use out of that, lady. He's swab in that scene, Chris, because he's like, I'm sorry.

Sorry for what? For not getting you a present sooner. Oh, nice. Dude. Yeah. And I love how it has like the cloth, you know, like the cloth string rope looking as cheap as possible. He got it like next to like those old plastic football helmets in the quarter machine. He got fleeced. I brought you the symbol for happiness in an Arizona

Cardinals helmet. Here you go. I ate a Sunday out of it first. But now it's the dojo money isn't great. You would want to get a nice chain on that guy. You know what I mean? Take it to a separate jeweler possibly. Right, right, right. But yeah, he beats the shit out of these two dudes. He does give them his wallet. You know what I mean? It's like, look, listen, man, I'm a super ninja. Don't let the HGTV chic outfit that I'm wearing deceive you. I can kick the shit out of you, but they don't believe him. No, and this is some good fighting right here. And I like a good, like a back alley fight. It's just like a little appetizer at the start of the movie. It's on an all out thing right away. Just a little, he's beaten the shit out of these two dudes, lays waste to them very easily,

which is great. You know, they're calling him like a fucking guy gin and all this stuff. And it's like, Oh, dude, this guy is a real deal ninja. You're just being presumptuous. I'm surprised we haven't gotten like a big, like a white guy karate spectacular called Guyjin. Oh, like that seems like a simple one. Just put that out there. Chris, because the American guy that goes to Red Box is going to be like, what the hell is that? Yes, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn. I signed the divorce papers today and I go to my Red Box and all that's there is something called God. Gene, what's that about? Man of Tachia. Man of ch' Hmm.

I don't, nope, not going to do it, Keanu. Not going to do it, Keanu. He's talking to the red box machine. So, yeah, we go home and yeah, we're eating some nice looking dinner here with Namiko and gives her this necklace. And dude, this, he goes,

this is, no surprise this lady's knocked up, because he, goes, I'm not so hungry. She goes, I am. And then they start making out. Like, if not for the interruption, you know, they would have banged here, I think. No, they do bang. Well, the interruption being the

edit. Oh, I see. I'm seeing, I want to see it. I was watching this last night with my girlfriend when it fades to black. She's like, are you kidding? Yeah. Yep. I said the same thing. There's a couple of definite, like, commercial breaks built into this movie, and I don't understand why. Like,

you know it's going. You know, right to, it's DVD first. At least give me that. And I want to see his moves. I want some tips. Yes. And then you know what's going on right here, right? You know, she wakes up in the middle of the night.

She's got a craving for chocolate and seaweed. And he's got to do the, you know, the thing that you got to do. You got to get up in the middle of the night. You got to go to the bodega to get these items or whatever. It's a good, it's a good replacement for ice cream and pickles, I think. I think it's a nice little variation. I've been hearing those two for, too long. I'm glad we got a new one. Right.

But I'm curious, what I'm really curious about, and I took a long time thinking about this, is Scott Atkins does not finish his goiza at dinner. Is there any leftover in the fridge? Maybe she can have. Right. Oh, maybe a little bit, dude, but she wants the very specific things that the

midnight pregnancy hungers are given her here. I think I'm pregnant. Sometimes I think that, and then I'm like, no, I'm just stoned again. Of course. That will happen. so he's getting these items and as as he's at the bodega we cut back and we see someone slinking outside the the window there someone's getting into the house and everything and wouldn't you know

it he's forgotten his wallet and he's got to go back and boy he just comes in and finds her DEA D-D dead well we see the first of I've been calling it a chain mace there's definitely probably a real word for what what this really cool like the weapon the weapon it's like the barbed wire deal barbed wire thing it's something like Like mankind would use an ECW kind of a deal. By God, Cactus Jack's wife is dead. He used a super news on her again. Oh, no.

I would say, though, I, rewatching this, I think my one complaint, it's probably because they didn't have the budget for it. But this thing has got to be beheading people, right? Yep. Yep. Yeah. Because when he checks her neck, it's just like, what she was, she was hungry for some weird craving, some ketchup spilled.

it's not a good I would like a give me give me like that nice deep cut get a makeup artist in you well you know what

yeah well that might have worked but the thing why they don't cut the head off is because that it gives this I think the mystery is fine it is I don't think

something that really grabbed me it was the fighting that grabbed me but like that is it's to set up the mystery more like oh the marks a very specific marks if you take off the head

there's no like way of being able to like oh that's what that is. Good point. I think they do a better job on the marks in every other instance of it in the movie, but this one didn't work because I was like, oh, she got her throat slit. That's cool. But then later on I realized, like, I put it together. It's like, oh, no, that was just like bad makeup application, not making it look like the barbed wire

design that you can so clearly see in all the other victims or whatever. I know it's a cliche to have this kind of like, you know, man on revenge, my wife and unborn child were killed. But it's nice that this movie has like the decency to do that within like 10 minutes because we, it knows we don't care about any of that. And it's right. First, first fight under 10 minutes, just as Andrew said, an appetizer fight. Like that is exactly what I want. And to move into it this quickly, like I said, I think the biggest difference to me between the first second one is how tight it is and how much the editing got better. I think

Florentine just got better at cutting these things into a nice shape. And as to the plot thing, I cannot wait for all four of you to see a movie that's, it was at Tiff called The Furious. Because it is literally just a guy whose daughter gets kidnapped

and put a sex trafficking. And that's the plot of it. But like this is the best fighting on screen I've seen in so goddamn long. You know, I always put Twilight of the Warriors really high up there. But this is, as far as technical is so nuts what they get away with in this movie i know it comes out this year look for it as soon as it comes out and we also dude we have you we have a new yun w pink movie coming out in fucking two weeks yeah jet lee yeah is the lead yep whoa jet lee back in movies yeah

i thought he was like ill or something wasn't he i think he i wonder how much of this is like you know stephen seagull sitting in a chair shooting guns territory i hope I would suck. Rewatching this too kind of reminded me and like they've admitted as much at this point but there's a lot of John Wick in this movie and like there's and he you know, Stahelsky's talked

a lot about that how he came from the DTV world and he was modeling it. But like even the fights in this are like very much like those John Wick movies, especially the later ones. Totally. Yeah. So we cut to the funeral and this is where we're introducing. to Kane Kashugi, son of show

Kashugi, which is awesome. Nepo Ninja. Dude, total nepo ninja. And I wasn't aware that the show had a son that made martial arts movies, so that's cool, but he's Nakabara. Brandon, is this dude, like, does he have a successful career? Is he in a lot of movies?

I didn't check much on the IMDB for this guy. He's pretty popular. I mean, he was in the thing that I knew him from the most, which is like, to me, a secretly good. movie even though people hated it at the time is the dead or alive movie the adaptation of the video game yes oh okay he he's in that which i like and that's directed by kori yun who i think is like a tremendous hong kong director and that just kind of people thought it was kind of just uh you know a joke when it came

up but but i was kind of doing some research on him before we started and he's he was in like i i never heard of this because obviously we don't have it here but he was in a reality TV competition show in Japan for a while called Sportsman No. 1 Decisive Battle. So I think that's what he was getting up to, aside from movies and everything. But I don't think he was ever as big as his father, of course. But yeah, he's...

Interesting. He's been around. But his father did give him work when he was a child, apparently. I guess he played his kid or something. He's in Revenge of the Ninja. He's in Nine Deaths of the Ninja. He's in Pray for Death, previous episode. I love that Pray for Death. If he's in Revenge of the Ninja,

he's definitely part of the family that gets fucking horribly butchered in the opening seconds of that movie. That's a great, great movie. By we just, we just lost Cory Yun. I forgot about that. But like him,

I just got a shout out. Writing wrongs. Maybe one of the most brutal, like, of those kind of action movies from the 90s from that region. It was that. And yes, madam,

of course, is like the best thing in the world. Writing wrongs is a white, white girl karate because, you know, yes. Cynthia Rothrock. Rothrock, of course.

The great Cynthia Rothrock. I do like, so he comes over, he's at the funeral. It'd be fun because he's the one that, you know, spoiler, he's the one that kills her and all for this really Byzantine reason for drug-related, drug-running, I'm going to get this guy from Japan and into Myanmar and do all this stuff. It'd be cool if he showed up a day early and he's like, oh, is the funeral today? Like, how do you know? Oh, sorry.

I just had a feeling, a ninja-related feeling. I might need to attend a funeral. I don't know. But yeah, he gives the whole, you know, oh, I considered her a sister. And, you know, Casey's like, hey, man, I don't think that this is a robbery. You know, there's something up about all this.

And it's a great, you know, I've got, because he's like, like Kane's character is like, Nakabara, rather. He's like, hey, why don't you come back to Thailand with me? You can, like, do some training. We can hang out. like it'll be great.

And he's like, no, no, no. I've got some unfinished business. And I was like, yeah, you do action movie. You got unfinished fucking business. Let's go. What sort of unfinished business? Thanks for coming. Bye.

It's a different class of person than at least four or fifths of this show. It's just like, you know what? You're sad, buddy. Come and exercise some more. We're going to do some more exit. We're going to work it out. We're not going to go out for a big dinner. I'm not going to get you some.

drink. We're going to wake up tomorrow at 4 o'clock in the morning and you really start exercise. No, I wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning and I have, I pretend I'm pregnant. You were going to be so tired and bruised. You're going to forget your wife was murdered, man. It's going to be great for you. Dude's weekend in Thailand.

With chocolate and seaweed morning. Coffee, chocolate and seaweed. Looking for that guy selling light bulbs later in this week. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, man. Oh, man. I I want to hit some bulb. I love the title card that comes up. Burma, formerly in Myanmar. It's like right, right in there.

This massive compound, but instead of a compound with dudes training, we've got dudes with guns, big drug operation, real classic drug operation. You're right, Eric, it is a little bit of a whatever. We've seen this a thousand times, but it's something comforting about like, yeah, just a nice large-scale drug operation in this movie.

All right. I do like it. You know, you see, it's a typical thing in, like, sort of like a warehouse. You see a bunch of guys loading up cocaine or whatever. And then, you know, there's guys walking around wearing camo with guns. Now we're talking. Hell yeah. We got a movie on our hands.

Yeah, he's the Goro, the lead bad guy, or at least he is. Outworld? No, not from Outworld, unfortunately. This guy only has two arms, dude. The Prince from Outworld? No. Okay. We call that a half Goro.

That sounds like a slur. dude. You fucking half Goro. Yikes. This dude playing Goro, though, was Shun Sugada, and I had to look it up, I didn't not recognize him, but it's awesome because Shun Sagada plays boss Benta in Kill Bill. He's the dude that Lucy

Lou decapitates. Oh, nice. Which is very fucking funny. You can spoil alert. He gets decapitated in this movie, too. Hell yeah. He is tying up loose ends from a drug deal from, it seems like, two years ago, was a little light which is, they keep a peccable record. Which is insane.

Like what, I mean, how do, like, you're just going through your finances for two years ago now. Like, oh, that one was a little light. Let's bring that guy in here. It's behind on his taxes. Yes, exactly. My drug empire is getting audited. We're going back through all these years of business. And he's always reporting everything to the government.

Well, it's, I mean, yeah, you would, I mean, maybe the thing is like, oh, he thought he got away with it. It's been two years. Like, yeah. If it was light, maybe, you know, some of the guys on the crew took it. Oh, they're all dead. Oh, they're all. dead too. Okay. I like that Florentine knows enough to be like we have to make it look like he's got

a chess set. He's smart and that makes him evil too. But he doesn't even really use the chess set. They're just kind of like every once while moving things around like okay here and now I'm going to kill you. And then here and then I'll kill it. Well that's how you do it dramatically in a movie dude. You only make like a move every so often because like the longer the game takes at least what movies and television have told me the smarter and better you are at it. I got a theory on this with this whole chess thing. I've been thinking about it for a while.

It's because, you know, we used to say, oh, in a movie, a guy's got glasses. They're smart. But then too many people know people with glasses. So they have to be a chess master to be smart. Don't offense. It's true. You're right.

I just love like, oh yeah, all those guys that were also doing that drug run, they're all dead. But it has been two years. So, like, Larry got cancer. Phil was in a car accident. I didn't kill all of them, you see. It's the two years since the job. I want to see that Goodfellas montage, you know,

watching all those guys. Yeah. Yep. Fuck yes. I would love that. So Casey heads to Dojo. Who you're looking for isn't here. And he just starts laying waste to these fuckers.

Oh, it's awesome. Well, he's still in Japan because he knows that like whatever. There was a symbol on a knife, on a knife that he kind of picked up and like, Yeah, he beats all these dudes, breaks a dude's arm, which I always love an arm break. You're going to tell me what I know. The guy's arm that he breaks is another white guy. Do you think he's, like, upset when Adkins comes? Like, do you think he thought he was, like, the one white guy in Japan that could do all this?

And Adkins walks in. Yeah. It's like, oh, fuck. And he does it way better than Atkins. God damn it, that guy really got me. There is a shocking amount of white dudes in this Myanmar dojo. At the end, like, it's like 70 white guys are, like, standing around. Like, wow, Casey, you did it.

Who are these dudes? That's the thing. I would have been shocked by that, except for I did, I watched both, I mean, me and Andrews saw Smashing Machine at Tiff, but also I watched John Hymes' documentary, Smash Machine, and you realize that a whole fucking ton of white guys are going over there to be in the competitions and get money. And they're like all over the fucking place learning and trying to make money off the fighting competitions.

I'm like, okay. Now I get it. I kind of get it now, I guess. And I think that, you know, it's better. than being like a UFC guy because this way you're traveling the world, you're seeing all these different countries and everything, you're not just hanging out in fucking Florida or wherever they do those

things. By the way, you know, you don't have to talk to Dana White all the time. Oh, thank God. Another plus. That's enough to kick you right out. That'll give you to say no. But he identifies this dojo from, it's the triple kick. Who uses the triple kick? I like you just identify from

the move. Dude, that's awesome. You're doing like ninja-related detective work. That kicks ass. there's only four dojos on the continent that can do this move that kind of thing. Do you think they have wrestling schools like that? You know, this is the only school that does the stone cold stunner. Yeah, exactly. So if you see someone do it, you can just walk in there.

You know that they were affiliated. Well, there was always that thing about, like, which I always felt fascinating. And I'm sure there's a lot more material on it. But like whatever the hearts were up to in Canada is like, oh, you have, that's like the heart wrestling in Canada and whatever else. That was called the heart dungeon. Yeah. Heart Dungeon, yes, exactly. Like, I want, I want that documentary about whatever the fuck was going on up there.

I'd never even heard of this. Like, they're like Training Academy or whatever. Yes, yeah. It was like Brett Hart, like all of his brothers and Jim Nealienhardt and all those, all those dudes. And there was a hitman school? Yeah, it was not a hitman school. It was a hate Vince McMahon school. Oh, man, can I fucking sign up?

That's cool. We will, we will not do any of your stone cold stunners. we are the school of the fighting splash. The Bigguff splash. Whatever fucking Ultimate Warrior's fucking thing was. Oh, yes. I remember that. I think his is massive heart attack.

That's a good move. That is the dojo I'm currently training in right now. Massive heart attack. Who teaches it? Who teaches it? We had to go to the Red Box guy to find out. But he finds these two dudes are just having a dinner. You know what I mean?

Because also like unfortunately for them Like somebody was like hey you know Cain Cushoges like hey you go You go just rough this dude up And then you're done and then like oh cool We'll just get dinner out like you know later on It's like then you're in this like blood feud with this guy That you had no idea about

I love the look on the one dude's face When they see him like through the window or whatever He's like you gotta be fucking kidding me This guy from the mall that already beat us up I love that he sends the pendant to the table Like he's the way to have to send it over like it's a drink. The waitress says like,

oh, it's from that guy gin outside, which is so funny. Cuts to him and he's like, hi there. But he cuts the one dude's hand off, right? This is an awesome.

This is where I was like, oh, this is like this kind of movie. Like this is the level we're at. Badass. How is that possible? Like I know it's a sharp knife or whatever. Brandon,

you've talked to Scott Atkins. Is he, you think he's tough? enough in one sweep to cut someone's hand off? I don't know anymore because he's gotten older, but I think back then he's younger. He's more fit. I think, yeah, he's not

dying the hair yet. Okay. But now I could take him, you're saying. Oh, yeah, definitely. He's had a few ACL tears. I think he's thinking. Eric is, of course, a school of the please don't hurt me. I was going to demonstrate the massive heart attack

to him. Wow, great form. He fucking felt. right on his face. Look at that. Great, great line here. The dude says he's getting the other guy and he goes, I'm not ready to die and she goes, or he goes, she

wasn't ready either and fucking cuts this guy's throat. Well, this is where I'd be like, as he's about, like, well, no, we clearly have a misunderstanding. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know who what lady you're, oh God, no. Like, I was wondering about this, like, is it for sure they're involved? I think they have like the, they have one of the knives that has

like the symbol on it, but it's like they're also mugging ninjas. thieves. They could have just stolen it from somebody else and the dude is just like, I swear to God man, if we knew that you were some huge ninja guy when we stole that thing from you outside, the things remembered, we wouldn't come at you at all. I do like,

so he kills these two dudes and then he's like, yeah, I guess I will do that training. It's also like getting the fuck out of Japan after double homicide. Exactly. Get on the boat to Thailand. Dude, get the hell out of here. We got to flee. A wandering murderer. That's what he is. But so he goes to this, uh, the,

Nakabar's Thai Dojo here. And then he does say he's like, yeah, it was a good time for me to come. Because I totally killed these two guys in cold blood. I do kind of like, I mean, Brandon, you're right. There's like a stock of a plot as you can get avenging my wife. And of course,

or unborn child or, you know, sometimes we'll get the small daughter that gets murdered. But like, I do think it's well enough. It's well enough explored. Like, he's like kind of repressing it. Like it comes out in all these weird, violent ways. like the in the sparring contest and stuff like you know what i mean like he's it's it's not as obvious as it has been in many many other movies oh yeah for sure and and i like that this is

i mean i almost said globe trotting i guess it's continent trotting but it's though i like that he's going all over the place for this it's not just you know one setting which i think yeah kind of opens this up a little bit and it appears as if they like filmed a bunch of it in some different places at least i don't know how accurate it it all is. But the production at least does a good enough job of making each location look different enough. So it doesn't feel like, as you're saying, one of these movies where they shot it all in one location or something. But we meet, again, another hilariously named ninja or, you know, striving to be a ninja. Here's Lucas. Ah, yes. Lucas, the terrifying

ninja, Lucas. Here are my number two's Hiroshi and Lucas. I do like the ninja logo here. It's like a really intense game of super tic-tac-toe that we have. What is super tic-tac-tac-toe? Because there's many, many rows you understand. Oh, I see. It's like you couldn't afford, I don't know, not afford it, but like you just didn't do a new parchment.

You're just doing the tic-tac-toe over and over again on the same page. This is where Nakabara talks about like his father was part of the secret Ninja Force. 2,500 soldiers went into the jungle. 14 came out. So they weren't very good ninjas. Is that what I'm hearing? Well, I guess 14 of them were.

14 of them were great. The rest caught bullets. Thank my grandfather for that now. Do you think the guy who plays Lucas is like mad that Scott Adkins, you know, exists in real life? Because like he's a decent enough actor. He has a good look. He can move. Yeah.

Do you think like he's mad that Atkins has taken this one, you know, good looking guy short haircut he's like the one guy we can get for these movies and it's one at a time kind of a thing and you think like maybe he's like you know you do the in the early wrestling you're jobbing for him like all right

I'll lose this time but next time I'll be in the DTV movie fighting John Travolta obviously I really thought that this was about to be like Scott Atkins as sidled with Lucas the whole movie and thankfully I only had about five more minutes left to wait

on smell alone it's got to be better to be in this and be the number two to Scott Atkins for a little bit than being I really feel bad for all the number twos to Stephen Seagall and all these sit down movies Oh yeah he's taken the dumps he's taken is number twos What the guys who have to like do all the fighting because he's too like

A fat and fucking drugged out or whatever Yes to do anything like that that must suck I had a funny moment. Speaking of Seagal, just this last weekend, I went to a birthday dinner. And one of the people there, he was an old guy. And my girlfriend and I got to talking to him. And he turns out he had, like, edited a million things. He started in Gunsmoke.

And then he edited, like, showed on a little Tokyo, die hard too, just a ton of movies I love. But then he was, he told us for a while. He was Seagal's editor. And his, we were like, which Segal movies did you edit? And he was like, well, he was like, I always told people that, you know, the joke I always say is that when I started out editing Steven Seagal movies, people are like wow, you edit Steven Seagal movies and by the time

I finished editing Steven Seagal movies, people are like, oh, oh wow, you added Steven Segal. That's amazing. And then he got a big kick out of showing us a meme after meme that he had saved to his phone of fat Stephen Seagal. That's amazing. Nice.

Doesn't sound like they had a great working relationship. I wonder if he was part of the because we're doing it a little later this month and I was just re-watching it today out for justice which is the famous Seagall got in the editing room and cut out like

30 minutes of the movie because he thought William Forsyth was doing a better acting job than he was and like showing him up correct he was yeah correct I'm not sure I know the two he called out when he was talking to us were under siege and marked for death but under siege oh okay yeah oh yeah great well so I mean if

if it stayed consistent that whole time. I think Out for Justice was after Undersea, so it's possible. Oh, man, that's interesting. Because I'd love to see that the longer like two hour cut of that movie where there's an actual like whole story. Like there's more of the mafia and everything in that movie. Like anytime you want to

give me more mafia, that's fine. Release the foresight. Absolutely. You know what? I'm going to make that my entire personality. Good idea. Nice. Get them hashtags warmed up, dude. Get ready to fight that war on the electronic battlefield known as social media. You only have to do it

for a year and then like shout factory or somebody will bend to the wheel and finally fucking do it. And like, and then you just got to find a new one. Then you gotta get new. The cut of something, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the new cut of mean guns. Come on. Uh, yeah.

There is a new cut of mean guns on on four days. That's awesome. That's vinegar syndrome, possibly. Probably. I think it's MVD. But, uh, okay. That's, uh, him and Lucas. sparring. It's just a friendly game.

Even Lucas is like, oh, I saw you do whatever back in Japan. You're Casey so-and-so. He's like, yeah, of course I am. And like, he's like really impressed with this guy and like we're just doing good ninja sparring which you've seen already in the movie. But uh-oh, Scott Adkins got a short temper these days after

that dead wife. And he he starts, he goes at this dude with a stick, which is kind of hilarious. Well, because Casey or the kid actually hits Casey with like he accidentally hits him. And he's like, Oh, sorry about that. And that just totally sets them off.

I have to say, light sparring or no, what are we thinking doing this on this hardwood floor? There's not a mat to be found in this movie. My God, you're going to break a tailbone just falling on the floor like that. I think they overreact a little bit, though, about this wooden stick. Like, they're acting like he came out of him with a knife or something. Right. Pulled a gun out. And it's like, oh, this is uncalled for it.

Exactly. And then you get the guy who, spoiler, killed your wife. chastising you for smacking a Lucas around with a stick which is also I realize that twist

kind of makes it like those neer-do-ells there at the that he dismembers and kills didn't do the crime yeah no no they did not

no no no he's just for the reason no one thing is I kind of think it's not just the dead wife thing Lucas early on is kind of

like fanboying a little bit with him and is like you know I saw you fight Masizuka and that must have been incredible. He does not know that Masizuka, who is the villain of the first movie,

like, is this evil fuck who, like, killed all his friends and shit. Oh, interesting. I just saw you two great fighters just fight and I thought it was so cool.

You guys must be friends, right? You still hang out or what? These plots of these movies are like a labyrinth. These are the kind of movies you've got to watch a couple times, really let them sink in a little bit. It's like when I read House of Leaves for the first time.

It's like you just kind of really got to let it sink. Yes. Rich text. I was, let it wash over your first. I tried to, I did, I read the Wikipedia summary for the first movie.

That's like a nine paragraph for on Wikipedia. And that, I think you, that's, that's a tell. I mean, obviously, you're going to make a movie and the movie's already edited.

So it's not, you can't really fix it at that point. But like, if your plot summary has to be nine paragraphs on Wikipedia, something is wrong. You know what I mean? It should be like four or five. Right.

I would wager if you went back and looked at that, though, having seen the movie, you might be able to identify like that paragraph can go. Nobody gives a shit about this. That's not as important as the writer thought it was. You know, that kind of thing? That's someone with too much time on their hands. Do you think that was the screenwriter writing that plot some? Well, I got nothing better to do today. Just need to get the call back and then I'll be on my way.

Okay. And the thing, you know what? The tree of life gets nine paragraphs fine. I understand. There's a lot to consider there. there's a lot of movie yeah so as a either a punishment or let's like re-center ourselves because we're we love this stuff you remember firewalking right like oh totally so firewalk with me it is oh just to elaborately get the lynch title in there just did my best i believe it's the second one it is because nakabara tells him he's like you're fucking out of control man and i think this is a reset like yeah if you can do this we will reset your system but he cannot walk across all the codes. I think he gets like 75% of the way there. And I was like, that'd be good enough for me,

honestly. It counts. It should count. Now your father didn't try to kill you. Now it now it didn't happen. I was having a, I was having this subtitle issue watching this wherever I was watching it, where like the subtitles, they wouldn't change until the next one came. So like whatever was on there, it was on there until like someone else spoke or whatever. So someone says something in Japanese at some point, right? And it just says Japanese like italicized as in like, we're not going to translate this for you as the AI subtitle people on Amazon or whatever. So that just stays up.

So the whole time he was walking across these calls, it's just Japanese. Oddly speaking just said Japanese while he's walking. I was like, man, fucking subtitle technology, man, on streamers. It is not great. to hire someone to oversee this stuff. I know you don't want to pay people any type of living, but I mean,

close captioning, that used to be going to rant here because it was. It's also insane too that like a lot of this movie is spoken in Japanese and they do subtitle, but then there are moments that when the one I was watching two, where I would just go screams in Japanese. And it's like, well, what did he say?

You subtitle the last fight. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I think they, they sort of break that down into like, is this something that is like necessary for you to understand the movie or is it just like catching stray lines here or there and the ones that are

like the strays it just says speaking in japanese with the screaming ones i bet you it's a lot of like some of those curse words are probably not translating exactly what like one of them is fuck of the acorn you and like yeah how does that doesn't what no no okay he goes to do some uh you know uh you know grief drinking finally absolutely but the fuck dumbbell down, pick up the beer, that's what I'm talking about. But he does this in a way, it's your standard action movie thing where we're going to get into a fight in the bar

and I'm so sad and I'm so angry. But in an outdoor setting in an outdoor bar, I think the vibes are totally different. Like this is like, we kind of got food here, you know what I mean? Like it's a little different than like the grungy bar. Yeah, there's like a food truck outside. Barria tacos

probably and it's kind of killing the vibe for everybody. It's a tourist trap. Yeah, exactly. fight in like the parking lot of a brewery or something. All these fucking food trucks. That's where the Red Box guy does it. I do like his get up while he's here. He's wearing like a Johnny Cage outfit.

And I always thought he would be a great Johnny Cage because I'm sorry, but Carl Urban looks terrible in that role. Dude, I think he's way too old to be playing Johnny Cage. And I love Carl Urban. Yeah. I like him. I like him as bones. I like him as Judge Dredd.

But like, my God, he's too old to be playing Johnny Cage. I can't believe it. At that point, bring Lyndon Ashby back, honestly. You know that guy's not doing anything. He's fucking free. He'll be saying that's a $500, $500 walker asshole. I don't know what he's got to. I do love it is the classic, like this drunk guy bumps into him and he's just, he does deal like,

you got to learn some manners. And like, outside bar or inside bar, this fight is rocking. It's pretty cool. He's really kicking these dudes asses. And I love like, I love in these movies where it's like, dudes who have no stake. in the thing at all are like, hey, them's guys be fighting. And then they go over and get into it and get their ass kicked. It's like, you have no allegiance to this drunk guy that's getting his ass kick.

Just watch him hilariously get his ass handed to him by Sensei Casey and be done with it. Don't you also get injured? They're getting into it. They're breaking bottles on tables to use as a weapon. And as a kid, I used to always think I would do that one day. And it still has not happened. This guy does two at a time, though, which is awesome. You're still like, you're still in your early 40s.

There's plenty of time. Thank you. You're only as old as you feel, really. That's right. It's just a number, Chris. Absolutely. I do like how a lot of these fights are shot in one take. And it's a great way to see that it's actually these guys doing it.

You know, it's really cool. The choreography is fantastic. Just like all of the, it's very, it is, it's very hyper kinetic. It's quick. But yeah, exactly. It's not quick cutting. It just, you feel just all of this kind of stuff happening. And also, like, I wouldn't be the 13.

guy coming up to Scott Adkins. After the first 12, I'm like, okay, I am not in this guy's league. I'm going to go grab my pretzel and get out of here. Exactly. I might come up to him and just be like, so what's the backstory here? What do you guys do? I really just need to know. I've been here for

like 30 minutes. Go up and offer to buy him a new drink because this all started because some guy walks into him and spills his precious beverage. That's right. I was going to say, not the docs myself, but I live fairly close to a popular brewery here in Brooklyn, or it's

Queens, I guess, Evil Twin. And, you know, I think after you know we're done talking, I'm going to go try this as he always goes for me in their part. I think you do okay. I mean, like, you versus some graphic designer, you'll do all right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it's a Wednesday night too.

It can't be that packed, you know. Yeah, yeah. So he's like hung over the next morning and the punishment is picking fruit with this lacrosse stick, which looks awesome. No one else thought that looked like a lacrosse stick? It does. The goalie stick specifically?

Well, you never got an apple picking? That is the apple picking thing. You grab that? I've literally never seen that in my life. I get my fat ass up a ladder or I climb the tree or I pick the ones that are on the ground. No, it's a cool little, it's a stick with a cool little basket on it with hooks. You pull that off. Yeah.

Never, never saw that. That's the entire reason people go apple picking, right? They want to hold that little stick with the basket on it. But it's a great thing where it's like, hey, Casey. I'm Lucas, even though you wronged me and that's why this is your punishment. I'm going to do it for you because you're so wasted and I'm the bigger man. He's like, all right, cool, man.

Hope you don't get murdered. See it a minute. And then he does. Too bad. Because later on, it turns out because their own sense I can't tell them apart from behind. No, it's more Machiavellian, Eric. It's because he wants to trick Casey and Deggen taking out his competitor. Yes.

Yes, to go get Goro. Get his head all hot so he'll run into the jungle and kill this enemy. But no one liked Lucas anyway. I think that is the thing. It's like, all right, Lucas is just behind him. But it's such a weird thing because it's like Scott Atkins is like seemingly dreaming what is happening here. Am I wrong? Yes.

Yeah. I thought Freddie Kruger was involved. Oh, dude. Oh, my God. They're kicking my ass. That would be awesome. Just Freddie Kruger versus a bunch of martial artists. Well, we did that in part four, right?

Is that the dude of the nunchucks who just gets murdered. Oh, so let me, let me, let me redo it. It's a Freddie Kruger versus a bunch of dudes doing martial arts, and it's not horrendously offensive. Okay, got it, yeah. I think if you go back and watch that scene, there's probably a couple moments we were like, I don't know about that, 1980s.

Yeah. Watch it there, Freddie. So Nakabara gives like this whole history of these three dudes, and Goro was the brother of this murdered martial martial. arts guy and so Goro became a criminal and would get revenge on this dude. They have this little kid where it's saying even if it takes

three lifetimes and it's just this little kid mouthing it. It's so funny. It takes three generations and then like Kane Kishoggi is just like listen man as the son-in-law you are in danger as well and I'm like as the son-in-law really? That's right buddy.

I'm getting hunted by ninjas. Oh man. How did that not happen as a movie? I think there probably was a script where it's like Pauly Shore plus martial arts and they were like, this is way too fucking offensive. I think he gets kidnapped in one of them, but I think it's just Eastern European taken type guys. I would take like, yeah, Pauly Shore and hostel or something like that as well. But also grinded. I think that's probably happened in real life.

I mean, I think he attended to cut some people up, I bet. now they're sticking railroad spikes in my thighs buddy i'm i'm not really feeling the vibe this barbed wire chain around my neck's doing some grinded but a weasel for the weasel puts a weasel in a bucket puts it on his tummy around oh hell yeah a light her out yeah just at the end lane smith is in like a fucking karate gee and he's like Yeah, that's right. It was all me the whole time, Carl. I wanted my son-in-law dinner.

What did I call fried chicken here? Oh, that would be amazing. The old father, like the grandfather character's whittling would there be like, that's not how you're ninjitsu. Back in my day. Off to Karagi. Casey, you know, he says, I'm not going to run. This is not living.

I'm going to go to Burma. I'm going to fucking get this Goro dude. Somewhere near Rangoon, we're told. It was where Goro's hideout is. Nakabara conveniently has a map that will direct him right to the general location, where he also says, oh, my grandfather set up the cemetery there where all these dudes are buried, but also there's like a cache of weapons stocked in each of the graves.

This is the coolest cemetery of all time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love this. I would love to grave rob in. Burma. I don't know that'd be probably be depressing actually. Yeah. No, I don't think you want to be there in general, bud. I just mean this fake movie cemetery. I hate to be that guy because people

say this about everything. Any garbage from like the 80s and 90s people will say this about, but I mean, I know this is 2013, but even this movie, all of their exchanges between Nakabara and Casey are lit so well and shot so well and I'm like, why, how does this movie that cost nothing look this good and we can't do this anymore? What happened?

I'll tell you exactly. what happened is even though these are like low budget, you know, ninja movies or whatever, they're made by people that know how to make movies. And what we see now is people, budgets small and large that are just like, they have fallen into, they've been told

that their whole lives by art teachers or anybody can make a movie. And like they don't think about craft in any way. It's just point and shoot garbage. You don't know how to light fucking egg thing. It's also just the aesthetic of we like the idea that things look so fucking dark. You

can't see it anymore. That is more quote unquote artistic or interesting and it absolutely. Well, it's just push towards realism, right? Like if it's dark out, it should be dark in the room and that's the dumbest thinking. They always drag out the fact that it makes it it looks better on like phones and iPads that way is usually what they will use as the expander for that. I have never watched. I have, thank God, I have never watched any Netflix on my phone. I don't know what it would look like. I'm glad. I'm, I'm glad. I don't at this point. But I also think it's a matter of too many cooks in the kitchen. You used to be able to have two or three cooks. Any major motion pictures are two or three people who are

going to make the final decisions here. Hopefully the director gets as many of them as possible. Now you have so many fucking departments who have to have equal say about how this thing is like edited, how long this thing goes, how different. It's so many things to consider. Whereas a movie like this, you're just trying to get it made. It's more like the 90s, the general, like production schedule is more like that. The general pipeline is like that. So I just think it's just less people are in the room saying like, no, that can't happen or no, that can't happen.

Or yes, that can't happen. So you're saying the same thing is it's people that have no idea what the fuck they're talking about making decisions about how you make a movie. It wouldn't matter. Like if they know it or no, it does, it's just too many people. Like there's too many opinions hitting each other at once. You just can't get one idea through. Well, thank God AI is going to be making movies for us now.

what is that's true that's solid problem is simple boy I watched I watched that trailer for that Aronovsky history thing you can fucking eat my ass and not in the fun way I mean dude it looks awful there's a movie it's probably out of theaters by now because it made no

with that Chris Pratt mercy movie I saw that oh yes that was very pro-AI and it felt like AI wrote it oh really I thought it was supposed to be anti because it was the AI sentencing him to death oh I didn't mean to spoil the move sorry I guess shit. No, that's totally fine.

There's a line there's a line where Chris Pratt says something like, AI and human. We both make mistakes. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude. Because that's the thing. They want to tell you, like, you know, Aronofsky,

AI didn't make the movie. He made the movie. AI's helping him by stripping jobs from a ton of people and making pure slot. But that's, but it's humans and AI together. I loved how the press release was like, don't worry about it. It's real actors doing the dialogue.

I was like, okay. What about the fucking costume department? What about the hair and makeup people? What about the set designers? You fucking cravened lunatics. Well, it's just, it's, Ernovsky just like lit any and all goodwill that caught stealing got him on fire immediately.

Like, within seconds. It wasn't even that much goodwill to begin with. No, that movie was not well received. Yes. It's, ah, anyway. So we go to Burma. We meet this cab driver here. Mike the cab driver.

I love this guy. And this is really cool. He's like, oh, stop off at this market on the way to take him into this hotel. I got to get a couple things. And he's getting supplies to make cool ninja weapons. Oh, man. I love it. I love like little potions and things that are going to fuck guys up, you know.

And you don't know like what's for what for all of it, right? Like it gets like a mortar and pestle. And you're like, all right, he's going to be like crushing things. That's cool. But then he like gets these puppets and you're like, what's it going to do with those puppets? I don't know what's going on there. And then it's just he wants like the little stick that they're on to like whittle them into a little needle. And he's making fucking poison darts.

Yeah. That's what I do. When I go to when I go to a hotel, I get two tall boys, a big thing of Doritos, a personal pizza. To make ninja darts. Of course. The can you understand. You can tighten that into a ninja dart. The hot cheese is like poison for some reason maybe.

Squeeze the grease out of the pizza. That can be really. You never know when your enemy is lack. Toastin tolerance. Perfect. I was just picturing you at like a hotel commissary like lobby with all this stuff

and you're like making ninja stuff for Mama Celeste frozen pizza. He just flung room temperature cheese at me. I'm still gonna kill you. But is it poit? I guess he makes a poison

out of the fish thing and all that stuff. That's what he's doing. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's badass. He gets dropped off. I love at the Rangoon Hollywood Hotel, five stars, boss. This fucking cab driver is awesome.

Mike is surprising because he in action movie problems should wind up dead at some point. Absolutely. I wouldn't have minded it too much. I thought that once he like turns him in later that like the dudes would be like, oh, thank you for helping your community too in the head. Yes. You know, not leaving any witnesses or whatever. Also, thank God this wasn't made in 95 because that Mike, the cab driver probably would

have been Rob Schneider. That's all I could think. In brown face. Yeah. Absolutely. You're not wrong, my friend. That's very true. He's got that J.C.V.D. movie. We might have to have you back for that one day. Oh, man. Rob Schneider is in a J.C.V. Knockoff, I think it's called. Oh, the jeans movie. Yes. He is the number two there. It's a Choi Hark movie. Yeah. It's a Hark. Yeah. Oh, so, yeah. Oh, so, yeah. Oh, so, yeah. Oh, so. Oh, yeah. Oh,

we see him make all the ninja stuff. He winds up making basically like De Niro's taxi driver wrist thing, like the wrist gun thing that De Niro makes in that movie, but it's just with darts, which is awesome. Hey, are you talking to me? I don't see anyone else here,

so you must be talking to me. No, come on, it's an interesting movie. Come on, come on, it's an interesting movie. He does a good,

actually, even when he's crying, he does, I think he's actually a pretty good actor for, you know what I mean for a guy that's as good at martial arts. He's like better than Van Dam. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, it's actually I was thinking about that. Yeah.

It bums me out a little bit that he's like the lead of these kind of movies, which is great. But then when he's in big budget movies, he's always like ninth or tenth on the list. It's like, why, why wasn't he ever given a shot? I don't know. Seriously, move him up a little, you know. There's no reason why, especially with that accent and his skill and his, I mean, I'm sure they're close age, but he's younger than him.

That's like the next Statham. Like, just plug, plug Scott Adkins into Jason Statham movies. It would work. And even like in John Wick 4, I mean, it's a fun little thing and obviously he's having fun with it,

but like, why he couldn't be like, why he has to be in the fat suit, you know what I mean? You could make him like a more interesting, heavy than that. Make him the formidable, like, lead villain. Mm-hmm. You know.

But yeah, so Mike takes him with his bar. And dude, I love this. line right here, man. If you can't find it in here, it does not exist. Oh, what's going on in this bar? Okay, so is, I don't see Street Fighter 2 Turbo Edition anywhere. And I know a fact that exists. This cab driver was lying to me.

I'd be expecting to have like a Cheech Marin outside to let you know everything that's available. We got Street Fighter 1. We got Street Fighter 2. We got three fighter three. Turn them in a dish. Oh, man. Yeah, so this drug dealer, you know, offering to hook him up with some stuff.

You want it, you got to come with me. A bunch of these badass dudes, spy Scott Adkins here, of course. And this is great. He takes him out of this alley and he's like, here, you know, hit this shit. And he's like, uh, not, not here.

I prefer to smoke my light bulb at home. I love when he's like, he's like, are you a cop? And he's like, do I look like a cop? I'm like, well, yeah, you do. He looks more like a cop than anyone's ever looked like a cop. The only way you could look more like a cop is if you had a big bright blue police officer uniform on.

I mean, cop, CIA, all of these things are coming to my two. Yeah, smoke this fucking light bulb, brother. Let's see what's going on. And in classic, like, fuck up fashion with stuff like this, like he hits this thing. He's starting to get all woozy and he's like, oh, hey, you know anything about Gorough? the country's most dangerous criminal which doesn't go over well I mean I do love that he gets into

a huge fight whilst is this crack or we think of a math or what it was but he is high out of a special third thing yes I think so he's high on light bulb which I love yeah he sober's up for the fight and then walks off stumbling again I'm like I would have loved if they had you know cut and it's actually

he he's he's gotten his ass kicked like he this is what he's seeing all high the entire time. And it cuts back and he's laying in the ground. It's all a death dream. Yes. Like a dream again. Like, oh, fuck. Now I'm conscious in the opposite.

It's Jacob Ladder. I think it's two fights in a row, though, where he is in talks because he's drunk at the outdoor bar. So he's got amazing skills when he's had 13 Thai beers. And then he's high on whatever this fucking horse in the light bulb is. And he's still

amazingly kicking ass. I love this. This is like drunken master training. This is what you have to do. Crackhead master training. It just would be great if you woke up in a bathtub three months later and just like, oh shit, it's been that light bulb really just changed. My back hurts. Where is my kidney?

There's a lot of bruising around my abdomen. I wonder what that's about. Three months later not to do the voice you always do, Andrew. But hey, man, have you seen Goro? He'll scumblet around looking for Goro You fucking need Goro, man He's he around here, way I need some fucking light bulbs, man

I need either Goro or a couple fucking light bulbs Anything I'll do, man Yeah, I'll hit big light bulbs, small light bulb One of those long ones, I'll get whatever you got I need BuzzFair in the name of my wife's fucking killer man I don't even think

I don't know how he got so high because it didn't even look like he inhaled it. It looked like he was doing the Bill Clinton method. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yes, I was in Thailand, baby, and I was hitting that lap, but I did not inhale. Is Casey on the, is he on the flight logs, do you think? Oh, that's a great question.

An international man of mystery like that, probably. I was just a bodyguard. I was just a bodyguard. I do like, once he gets to Myanmar and starts getting into it with the drug clan, he is murdering everybody. Like the body count goes way up. Oh, yeah. Initially, like the bar fight, he's just beating people up.

You know what I mean? He kills the two guys who killed his wife. Or he thinks he kills his wife. But everybody else is getting murdered at this point. Including the drug dealer dudes, I think also. Yes. A couple of them are not coming back from whatever Scott Adkins has done to them. so you know

he gets the one thing out of the guy where he's like yes everybody knows who Goro is but no one's ever met him and you know but we all know who he is is the idea so we get the cops bursting into his room a little while later he is high sleeping a little bit he's doing like some rest

he wakes up in front of the toilet which we've all been there for sure oh absolutely dude yeah I felt really bad for him in that moment once I realized he was like hugging the porcelain god I was like you poor fucker That's what saves him.

He, the military police or whatever these guys, these are these government officials run in with these machine guns to kill him. He's laying down by the toilet so then he could burst through from the toilet door and fight them. Pretty awesome. He's got a great when he like exits the room to escape. He does a fucking double jump kick on that one guy. Yes. Dude, I love a good double jump kick like that.

I also love when you take someone's handgun and then throw it in someone else's face, Yep, yep, no more bullets. I'm just going to toss us at someone and it's just as good or maybe even better than shooting him. Hell yeah. Oh, it's better. So he's tied to a chair at police headquarters like you find yourself in these kinds of situations here and he's doing the whole like,

I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a tourist here. This iron thing would take me out of the rest of the movie. I'd be like, you know what? They put an iron on my thigh. I'm out. Yeah, yeah. This is it.

This is it. My leg smells like McDonald's. I got to go home. Exactly. You know what I mean? Game over, Goro, you won,

man. I accidentally touched an iron this weekend. I burned my finger. I was out for a whole day. Exactly. It's no joke. You were in town

trying to use your ninja skills to solve a mystery and the police really got you instead. No, No, I was ironing a pair of pants. Things went awry. Just as dangerous, dude. Just as dangerous.

I love this chief. He's to activate the torture guy. He's just doing a little like clanging my spoon on the teacop. And this dude just knows like, oh, he means to start torturing. And this guy loving the torturing that he's doing. I think this is done in every single movie. There's torture. I think True Lies does it.

Where the torture guy has. a little wheelie cart with all the torture implements. I love that. Like a dessert cart, but for torture. Yes. Oh, yeah, I'll have the iron things. Iron room to be pretty low on my list, man.

Cut me up. I do not want to get burned by an iron. Well, now I know to do that to you. Damn. This is Vithaya, right? Phithia pan's ring arm, which is the bad guy from only God forgives. Yeah. Oh, is that right?

Yeah. Oh, great. Who's the chief? Yeah, yeah. I love this guy. He was in 13 lives recently, and he was really good in that as well. It is. Was that the Ron Howard picture?

It is indeed. Petophiles! On his way into the jail, you see a rooster in a cage. You're like, oh, that's an interesting little, you know, a little texture for what's going on in this part of town. Uh-uh. Deus X cockfight is going to get Casey right out of this jail.

Amazing. Because everyone is so enamored with this cockfight. They're not paying attention to the one prisoner they have. The cockfighting was apparently cut out of this release, or this movie when it was released in the UK. And I'm like, well, how the hell did they know how he got out of there then? Because the cockfighting is integral to the escape. It's pretty cool, too, man.

I mean, I'm not advocating cockfighting. It was just like, it's one of those things you're kind of surprised to see in a movie. You're like, oh, copfighting's in this movie. This movie truly has everything now that cockfighting's here. I mean, one of the greatest movies of all time, Cockfighter. My Sweet Jesus, Monty Hellman, if you haven't seen it, folks, please. Well, that would be really awkward if it was a movie called Cockfighter and there was no cockfighting. Well, it could be a porno of some sort.

Oh, that's true. Yeah, a real duel of the dicks. A boxing themed one. Yeah, that could be. Maybe put a red glove on your penis head and you hit another one. Pardon me? I'm trying to figure it out over there. You're not doing well.

Is that what Red Rocket was about? And Steve, I haven't ironed out the details yet. Oh, God. So, Atkins, he gets to the chief's office here. He throws this man through his own desk. I love it. His own workspace. And yet, the guys are still too busy on the cockfighting to know that he got flipped.

Their boss got flipped through his own desk. That's real money. And when he's slipping out, you see the shot of this chief fellow there with a pair of scissors stabbed into his chest. That's when I was like, now he's just going full Jason Voorhees. And I mean that in a commendable way. I'm not complaining about that at all. Because that's one of those like, did you need to do that? You could have like cleanly broken this dude's neck or something.

No, no, no. Scissors were involved for some reason. I'll take it, man. And it's great because he's like, oh, where's Goro? And this dude's like the jungle. And he goes, you're going to have to get a little more. specific than the jungle. And I guess the scissors made him get more specific

and then he got filled and then we get the taxi driver. Mike, give me my money to these officials because it was you, you turned me in. He's like, no, I betrayed him. I demand the money I got for betraying him. I'm here to pick up my betrayal check, please. Yeah, Casey sees him getting paid off. is it is it during the escape that he there's the scene where when he does escape he you don't actually see him fight those guys

well yes you don't see you don't see the scissor going into the chest which i was surprised but there's before that there's there's a part where two guys get thrown against it's like a little you hear the off-screen tussles and i'm just like did we lose budget for one fight in this movie you're right because it's possible those two guards come in and then he starts fighting them and we kind of just cut to him in one one of their uniforms, which... Yes. I don't know if those guys were Scott Atkins tall or whatever.

No. Dude, they should have showed like Atkins' ankles and like the pants are total floodwater length. Yes, yes. He sewed the two uniforms together. That's the only way that code is fitting. Ninja's got to do all that costume stuff.

You got to know how to sell. When he takes his shirt off, he looks like Pierce Broson and Golden Eye 64. He is so boxy in this movie. Again, it's a... He's cut as as, anything, but it is just, it's very polygonal. That's, oh, God, that's just, okay, so that's what I've been thinking about this whole time with them calling them Casey.

If they were to make, and I hope they do not, but if they were to make a live action teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles thing and actually, like, get into the fighting of it, he would be a great Casey Jones. Oh, it's better than Stephen Amel of Aero fame, you're saying? We'd have better than that. I mean, come on. He can do fights. Careful, Steve, all the Amel heads are going to come after you. Yet again. They're not as strong. I think they're gone in numbers. I forgot he was Casey Jones.

Is it just the second one of those Bay movies? It was like a quote unquote big deal when it happened. Yes, they were coming out. Just dreadful. You'll forget that, what is it, Alan Richardson or whatever? Reacher is, is Raphael or something in that? Oh, okay. He's Michelangelo.

Whichever. He is a turtle. He's a turtle. He's a turtle, which is all the same. So Atkins, Casey hides, in Mike's car. It's actually a nice little genius move here. He hides in the car and then Mike just leaves the police compound and Scott

Atkins is able to get out. And then this dude like he makes his point. He's like, look, I don't fucking know you, man. I'm just trying to make a living. These dudes offered me money. I got a family or whatever it is. And I guess that's why Adkins sort of spares this dude is like he understands the plight even though he is pissed off.

Yeah. It's understandable. He's like, just drop me off at the jungle closest to the, there, you know, this is far in the jungles I'm going to go kind of a deal. I'll leave you here. Yeah, we do a little, we're going up in a tiny little boat. We're going up river to really get in there, you know, and now he's on his own. Great shot of this scorpion going over his shoe. That fucking eeked me out. No thank you with any of that, especially the no thank you. He's sleeping on the ground in this

forest with all those scorpions. Oh my God. What is this hobo dinner? He's got it. It's something out of a kid, a sausage, a canned Vienna sausage possibly? Oh, yeah. All protein. It looked like dog food, dude. I had to turn away from the television. I don't know whatever survivalist shit he was eating.

You've got to get your protein in before you grave rob. It's really, it's important stuff. I just love like graphic violence. Ooh. Oh, somebody eating something out of a can. Oh. That's how I've lived most of my life, man. The things that affect me are the ones you wouldn't expect.

More police dudes come and get absolutely. murdered here. There's some cool grenade stuff going on. What is this bag of chemicals that he throws at that guy? Fish guts and stuff. Yeah, exactly. This is like a ninja potion. It gives this guy boils on his face and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man.

There's some neck snaps here and some throat slashing. I appreciate that. And a grenade goes off, which is also, you know, now we got explosions in this movie. And of course, he's impervious to grenades because he's the hero. He just flies in the air for a second. That's pretty great.

He kills this one guy by like throwing something, like right at this dude's heart and the dude drops dead. And then he's like, I'll take the rest of these grenades you won't be needing anymore. But yeah, he finds this, you know, the grave with all the weapons and everything. There are a shit ton of, I mean, this is a prepared coffin, weapons, ninja costumes, all sorts of martial arts accoutrema. I was kind of hoping he would have to like just take it off of a ninja, like shake a ninja's going. Dude, I thought we were going to see a skeleton. I thought we were going to see a skeleton. Honestly, kind of disappointed there wasn't a little guy in there with all the guns and everything.

We're in drug runner territory. You mean to tell me they've never buried bodies out there and found any of this shit. Good point. I mean, Goro knows all about this shit. Absolutely. And this stuff is probably left, I don't know, it's probably rusted or something. It's got to be gross. I mean, I don't know about the cotton cloth and after all those years.

I just imagine some water damage to some of these swords and so on and so forth. It's a jungle. There's rain all the time. It leads to at least one of my favorite scenes, which is building a sword at night in the jungle, which is my favorite Hong Sing Su movie also.

How do you test that sword by cutting a cobra's head off? Dude. So actually, I was wrong. There's what, three decapitations in this one? He counts. The snake definitely got. Dude, and it is some great snake stuff here. We get some shots of this snake and he's just like,

he's looking at a case. He's like, hey, what's going on? Oh, you're putting a sword together at night. Oh, yeah. At least finally, he's dressed like a ninja. He's not wearing a jacket from Coles that has nine pockets on it. You know what I mean? Like, now I'm watching Ninja, colon, shadow of a tear.

Well, who's in the photograph here that he also picks out of the? I think it's just a soldier's, you know, a ninja's family and that makes him think of his own. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I wasn't sure if it's supposed to be like knock a bar as relative or something like that. It possesses him. He becomes possessed by that former ninja like what's her name in Ninja three and that's where he gets house powers. That's right. Oh my God. Then he sexually drinks some V8.

Oh. Yeah. Let's splash some V8 on my tits. That movie rocks. It's so good. I love that movie. I love that. this is called Ninja 2 and that's Ninja 3.

If you put them on a shelf next to you, no one would know the difference. Absolutely. I've got all three of those Canon, the Ninja Trilogy on Blu-ray and I regret nothing about those purchases. They're great. So yeah, Casey, in the full ninja gear,

he's doing the cool, like, I don't know the correct term for it, but all the different hand configurations as he sort of like meditates and kind of gets ready to roll here, which is pretty cool. and then the funniest thing though is like we've heard on and on about like yeah Goro's got some secret compound

it's buried deep in the jungle blah blah blah blah there is the funniest shot of Casey coming upon this huge compound that's on the top of a hill that you can see this fucker from space you really can some secret compound man him and his number two are playing chess

I would it I like the number two has a great fight with Scott Atkins in a minute But there's this great moment where they're playing chess and he's like, you know, Goro's like, you know, the thing about chess is sooner or later, both kings and pawns all go back at the box

the same way. And they're the guys like, I don't get it. I'm like, really, you don't? It's pretty great. Turns out stupid people can play chess. Yeah, see, it's possible. Including t-shirt guy here who is orange t-shirt guy. That's the only thing. Like, everybody else

has like some kind of suit on. This guy just has a t-shirt in camo pants. Well, I think it's... And he almost kills Scott Atkins. It speaks to the casualness of this character on the whole, though, because he's being very casual with Goro here. Because he's like, you know, Goro, um, no offense, man, but you're, like, addicted to money.

And it's like a sickness at this point. He's like, why don't you dial it back, man? Like, your number of enemies are dwindling. Like, what more do you need? Like, this, that, the other thing? Like, I would be terrified if I'm working for this fucking, you know, huge... drug dealer villain guy to be just go and shoot my mouth off like that.

Yeah, it's true. I do like the siege of this compound. We get the blow dart to the neck. He's got the grappling hook. All the accessories. Casey, now with all the fun weapon accessories, not included, your parents have to buy them separately. He is ninjaing this whole movie,

but finally he is truly full on ninja ing, which is fantastic. It gets the suit on, right? Yeah, exactly. You need the theatrics. It's a whole thing. I wonder. When he kills the cobra,

do you get some of the poison on the sword? Oh, and then maybe you're getting it into some people here real quick. Oh, that's interesting. I don't know. You know what? It couldn't hurt the cause. No, of course not.

It's cool as well. I love he just, you know, because these kind of movies have this too. These dudes are just doing some serious gambling while they're like, I guess these are off hours, you know, so we're just gambling here. And he just blows up this whole room with that grenade.

Oh, yeah. Yes. power flickers and stuff and then there's a fire that breaks out and then we pan over and you know we're in uh this is a secret goro base in Myanmar and there's a sign that says danger flammable liquids in English

well you don't want OSHA showing up to your secret jungle compound and shutting the shit down dude. Fair enough. You know we got customers we got product to get out there we can't have all these violations in red tape. I just thought it would be in a different language I don't know fair enough. You think those guys through you think those

guys, the henchmen still exist out there sitting around gambling or they are all on their phones with like draft kings now. It's probably lost to water. Absolutely. There's still soldiers in that jungle on draft kings in their phone. Oh, and no. Those fuckers are on Cal Sheath. Those guys are Cali nuts. They're like doing the weird bets on like anything. Like, oh, uh, what, what ad is going to get the most hits on YouTube after the big game? Like that's what they're putting. They're making He bets like, oh, $500 on this aggrieved white guy destroying our compound right to the ground. They're betting on Kid Rock wardrobe bell function at the turning points USA half-time show at the Super Bowl. His little dick pops out, put money on it.

Dude, that fucking halftime show. I got to tell you, I heard a thing years ago, people say when a kid rock would walk into a room, it instantly smelled like urine. That sounds right. Yeah, so I bet that's still going to be the case for this talking point. toilet paper USA fucking half time show. She seems just like a piss person. Yeah.

You just look at him and you're like that dude looks like he smells like piss. How soon speaking to this whole realm of right wing idiocy, how soon before we start seeing Zach Levi making movies like this? Oh, any day now dude. Any day, whatever

the fight, you know, daily wire movies or fucking Angel Studios nonsense. They just closed the Kennedy Center. They're going to be at the Zachary Levi's into it. Well, it all ties back to Adkins, because you remember when John Wick 4 came out, Shazam 2 came out at the same time, and he

did that Instagram live where he was sobbing on live asking people to please go see Shazam. Oh, man. It was pathetic. That is disgusting. That is so fucking, that's rough. Zachary, that's rough, man. But don't worry, they all came out for

Harold and the purple crayon. Oh, no, they did not. I will say for as, you know, cheap as this movie is, a lot of the fire is real, which is cool. The explosions are like, you know, like, they're small, but they fit. You know what I mean? It's not just CGI nonsense.

It's the beauty of a low budget thing, right? Steve, like, sometimes when you don't have the money for computer animation, you just have to set something on fire. Exactly. You know what I mean? You got to go back to caveman times and just set something on fire. The fight with the number two is great. Adkins super stabs this guy like multiple times fucking like.

And then like after that he slits the neck. So we get a little artery thing. And then he breaks the dude's neck. Like this is a fucking fatality, man. The button combo to execute this move must have been wild on us. He was in sweeping distance. You could do it. Yeah.

Atkins does get a couple of sweeps in here at various points in the movie. And they are some really, really good sweeps. I don't think I'd seen him. Or does he do any sweeps in John Wick, maybe in the fat suit. But otherwise, I'd never seen him do a sweet before, and it's very cool to look at.

It's majestic. While his number two is eating shit, Goro understands what's going on. So he kind of prepares for battle here. He, like, signs this painting he's been working on. You know what I mean? Just want to wrap up the last thing. It's on to Will.

George O'Keefe he's been working on it. But this is awesome because Goro picks up the sword, like, after he gets slashed a little bit. And out of nowhere, this electric guitar starts wailing, like you're watching Melrose place. It was awesome. I was totally surprised by it. But then, oh, man, it is just a beautiful fatality. Casey just fucking gets the best of this dude. I would say within 20 seconds of this fight, you know this is that something's off. This is not, he's not the guy. He's not the real guy. Like I almost immediately

was like, this is not the fight of your last, the last fight of a movie. Also, we have like 20 minutes left. Well, that's exactly. I didn't pause it or anything. I was just like, oh yeah, this is wrap it up nicely. He's going to go back. He's going to like have a cup of tea with the other guy and we're good to go. We're out of here.

I agree with you, Steve. And again, funny enough, like I think for me at least, just like I mentioned earlier in the show, like going through all of these Shaw Brothers movies recently, the beauty of those movies is like the second the movie is over with, the movie is over with. Yes. And so it's like the big fight. I mean, sometimes those movies end on a the end freeze frame when like the kill shot is being given.

Another Shaw production. Bless them. Exactly. Yeah. So I was like, okay, cool. So I'm thinking in this instance, like this is, I mean, the movie's not going to leave this drug compound. Like he got the guy and that's it. And then, uh-oh, we're back at the International Bujitsu Association. And Casey returns here and the fake out of the. The fake out ending with a big decapitation is usually how that works. You know what I mean? You build up to the decapitation. Yes.

You think that they would save the best for last. This decapitation of Goro happens here. Also, he's telling Goro like all this stuff about like his life and shit. And like, you know, she's, it'd be great if Gora was like, like, what? Who? What? Who are you? Huh?

A dojo from when? I don't care about that. Man, you're wrong. At one point, he does say to him, like, Takeda's daughter. was my wife. And he's kind of like, oh, well,

she's married a white guy? What the fuck? Wait, now you're killing me? Wait a second. Oh, no. Lane Smith comes out.

I got the wrong shot in law. I can't believe it. I was just an innocent warlord. Oh, no. But yeah, so we repeat this gag of a delivery guy comes in while Casey is speaking with Nakabara.

And he notices, I'm like the hilt of this dude's knife for whatever, the same symbol there. And the whole thing is, yeah, Nakabari was in it. And I was kind of like, at first I was like, that's kind of stupid. Like I thought this movie was over with. But it does lead to a real knockdown, dragout fight.

It is the best fight. It's fucking awesome. Like it really, they justified their stupid little twist. He does the thing where Nakabar explains himself. Like, listen, you know, I knew you were the only person that could find him and kill him because you're such a special warrior. etc. And now there's, we've got two choices. You can either be like, you know, you can get pretty well compensated for your efforts. Oh, me, my dead wife. Or I guess we have to fight each other.

Of course you have to fight each other. You have to fight each other. I do like the whole line about like it's not personal. It's like she was pregnant. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's fair. Had I know. I mean, cut him some slack. You know, we used to be closer. You would have called me and told me that back in the day, but no, you just had to keep it to yourself. Bro, your Facebook hasn't been updated forever. I didn't know. You didn't, yeah, you didn't update it to preggers. You didn't post the, what's that x-ray, baby x-ray, whatever I call that. Ultrasound. There you go.

Or baby x-ray, one of the other. When he's fighting Nakabara, is this where, it is where he's having those like perfume ad flashbacks to his wife just standing up? in the middle of the street. I love that stuff. That's the only memory he has of her. There's never any, you know, like some cheese on her face or something while she's eating.

Yeah, no, nothing like that. Yeah. No fun times. Oh, my God. Dr. drinking a beer. Dude, cut to her like housing nachos, like Kurt Russell and death proof. Yeah, yeah.

I don't always remember her like that way, too. We're just like laughing her ass off at like a not great friend's joke. And you're like, oh, that's just, okay. That's funny what sticks with you. She loved David Schwimmer. You sighed, I heard, like, I hope my kid doesn't get whatever that is. That's Schwimmer love. Well, that's, I imagine all, like, film people, especially when they're getting their, uh,

Edward G. Robinson end of life, uh, flash. Like, oh, I didn't think any of this would be in this. Yeah, exactly. This is all wrong. This cut is all wrong. No, no, no. I want to. but yeah so this fight rules

he knocks Nakabara through a wall into like Nakabarra's he mentions this earlier in the movie like his room of all these historical artifacts he's been collecting I was like what he got in there dude some collectors plates of some kind of cool weapons

it seems cool weapons some statues you know that kind of stuff Nakabara Furman all them plates hell yeah Casey gets run through with his sword like through the shoulder

which is pretty badass but yeah he does get him it's man sweet poetic justice in movies like this he gets Nakabar with the same fucking barb wire thing that he used to kill his wife

a little unsatisfying it's cool the poetic justice of it but like I kind of want eyeballs to pop or something you know get a little goryer with it like cut out his guts and show it to him. No, or even just by squeezing on the thing, like it really almost decapitates. Right.

His eyes pop out from the squeezing of the neck. Yeah, that'd be cool. That's sort of like a John Carpenter, a big trouble and little china kind of thing. It's going to sound weird for me to say this because of the movie we're talking about, but I feel like this movie's like too classy for a kill like that. Sure. By just the little as bit. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

It's not an impossible. If it was in the movie, I wouldn't. be like, that's ridiculous. But I just feel that they were like, maybe keep this class and he's just kind of, not my eyes. And they're flying out of his head. Out of nowhere, just a huge, weird tone shift. That's where the freeze frame is.

They shoot out of his eyes. Yes. And then it goes, another Scott Atkins production. I do kind of love this dude comes in who is like Lucas's buddy and then like, Adkins is like, yeah, he was evil. the whole time. It was all a drug front. And like, this guy is just like, man, that's terrible.

Well, we got these geese made up this way. And it would be silly for us to throw the whole dojo away. Oh, yeah. Just because of one bad apple. So, you know, thanks and all, but you should probably leave now. But yeah, no, I like that idea. He's just like, look,

consider this water under the bridge. You actually helped write our business model. And I'll be taking over maybe for Nakabar, we'll see, but thank you for murdering this, you know, poisonous part of our operation that we didn't know existed. Totally swear I had nothing to do with your wife's murder. I don't even know. Drugs? What? Oh my God, it's a drug operation. Did you guys know this? Holy shit. Can I get you a cab, maybe something, do you have to go to the bathroom before you go? Hey, guys, put down the light bulbs. Did you know that we're in? breathes a big sigh of relief when Atkins' cab pulls away. He's like, oh, thank God. He bought it. Wow, that was a real Hail Mary,

but he bought it. Hell yeah. Okay, everybody gets a light bulb of their own tonight. Everybody gets their own. Everybody's smoking bulb tonight, baby. Then the last thing is just Casey's alone and he drops the medallion into a pond and moves on,

puts his cool sunglasses on and gets the fuck out of the movie. And that's the end of it. Let's it, you know, he's older now, but like, Steve's right. Let's have a continuation of the Casey story. What is that widower up to? Yeah. I look a third one for sure. I would totally watch another one. I mean, I'm sure like there's other Scott Atkins movies you could maybe watch and just pretend he's the Scott. Yeah. I mean, there's a really violent one that's sort of similar to this, but he's not a ninja called Savage Dog where he, it's almost like he's just Jason in the jungle. Like he has a machete in the gym. It's real

violent. And, oh, yeah. You just program. the night, my friend. Savage dog, you say. Do you hear that letterbox? Excellent. But that is the end of this movie, man. This super fun movie will go around the horn here for some final thoughts and some possible other recommendations. And Brandon, you're our guest this week, man.

We'll start with you. Yeah, I think it's one of his better movies. I used to put it in like top top tier, Adkins. And I do think when that final act hits, that's, it gets there. I don't know if I love this as much as like Universal Soldier or last year's Diablo or anything like that or even Unisputed 3 is really

a great Atkins movie. But yeah, I love this movie. I think it is where he fully comes into his own as sort of a, I don't want to, I almost said movie star, but I remember what you were talking about it. But, but yeah, I mean, I

really love this one. And if if people who are listening haven't seen Adkins, yeah, Universal Soldier Day of Reckoning, all of the undisputed movies. I mean, two, three, and four. one's good too but he's not in it. No one from the rest of these that you're in that one. But yeah, and last year's Diablo, I can't recommend that one enough. I thought it was a pretty bad year for action overall last year, really disappointed by some of the heavy

hitters. And I thought Diablo really stood out. So. Hell yeah. Steve Saneck, my friend. What do you think? Yeah. And because again, like, I saw Diablo and it knocked my socks off. And that was my first like Adkins starring movie. And I was like, oh, I got to watch board. Adkins. Now I'm fully Adkins pill. Like this plus that equals I got to watch more of this guy's stuff. It's really fun. And he's a little bit better of an actor than he needs to be. So I appreciate that. He's not

stone-faced. He can you know, when he's fake crying, it's pretty okay. You know what I mean? Like for an action movie, it's pretty okay. And the fights are just absolutely super fun in this movie. It seems like I will not go back to Ninja One, but I'm going to go back to other Scott Atkins

films. There you go. Chris Cabin. Oh yeah. This is definitely one of my favorite of his. ones I've seen, because it's, it's gotten more into the gun world with him. Less martial arts you get, uh, yeah, well, if you get, you get the martial arts and then, but like a lot of the violence rather than being like, uh, stabbing stuff, a lot of it is gun based. And I, uh, I, I, I, it's fine, like all, a one shot is very good. I, I think that's one that's definitely worth checking out. Um, one, I, I definitely want to shout out, uh, the guy who directed Diablo directed

Bista the Condor, which is a very strange, but really worth it, uh, action movie. It's, it's got a weird pacing to it. I think, uh, uh, Brandon brought that up in his review. Uh, it is something you have to kind of be ready for when you go in, but it is very unique. Uh, and I'm not, I don't think Atkins is in that, uh, Brandon. No, no, that's, that's his contemporary. Another guy who I think is really good. He's also enjoyed the other guy from Diablo, right? Yeah, Marco Zorro. Yeah, he's. Oh. Yeah, that guy's awesome. Yeah.

Yeah, he's another guy that's got a lot of charisma. I was going to say good looking, but he's kind of weird looking, but in a good thing. Yeah, he's great fighter. It doesn't look like they're giving. I thought the minute I saw that guy, I was like, this guy, when they make the good street fighter movie, which maybe they are, I'm like, he is sagat. He has such a sagat look to him. I don't know.

Anything starring Roman Raines and Cody Rhodes, I don't think that's going to be a good street fighter movie. Could I sweeten the pot with Andrew Shultz by any chance? Can I do that? The president's friend, Andrew Shultz. Is this a Daily Wire original? But yeah, worth it. Yeah.

I'm not going to say anything different. I mean, much like Steve, I am indeed Adkins-pilled at this point. Again, yeah, the Diablo fantastic stuff. Yeah, so I'm excited to keep exploring. But Mr. White Guy Karate, Eric Siska, this is your month, man. thoughts on this movie. My month. Huge recommend.

I really, really love this one. I have for a while. I think this is the one that I finally saw and I was like, I need to start watching this guy's movies.

And I've more or less liked a lot of his output. I feel like the debt collectors I wasn't as into or accident man, but like everything else I've been really into. So definitely keep checking this guy out. And hopefully he'll get an actual budget under him and a higher name on the

call sheet eventually, but he'll probably won't and he'll probably die where he is, and that's okay. So hopeful. Because where he is, is good, because this is fun. I had a great time. And so check it out. And also, I think

we should thrive in the shadows and have our enemies perish in the sunlight. That's a great idea. Fantastic. Brandon, this was awesome, man. We could not have done this episode as amazingly as we have without you. But give folks a a little bit of your background and what you got cooking.

I know you got like irons and so many damn fires, man. I see what you're doing and I'm like, I just get tired looking at all the stuff you're doing. You're so busy. This guy's got irons on so many different thighs. It's incredible. Plug away. Plug away.

Well, yeah, a lot of different interviews coming up soon. I just did one. I don't know. I mean, this is complete 180 from what we just talked about. But a great Colombian movie called a poet just came out. I did an interview with that director. I should have be having one. with Juliette Lewis soon for this

cool movie she's in called By Design and then yeah other than that the stunt awards are rolling on Vulture doesn't keep me updated with when stuff is releasing so I don't know what I don't know maybe they're not even happening this year even though I collected nomination so we'll see I saw the nomination card

yeah yeah but hopefully they're announced soon but just to keep in spirit with the show I will say I'd like to plug a friend's thing Adkins is in my friend's movie which I don't know when it's coming out but it's the fourth skyline movie. It's called Warpath, starring Adkins and Eko Eweiss. And Adkins has replaced Frank Grillo and is playing his own twin brother.

Fuck, yes. I've seen a very rough cut of it and it's awesome. Oh, sweet. Yeah. The other thing I'm going to pimp you into talking about because you just shared it. You have a commentary track on a new DVD for a big movie. What is what's going on there? Yeah, Walking Tall, the Dwayne Johnson remake.

And I want to say that I recorded that right before the findings came out about Buford Pusser killing his wife. So, um, or Buford Pusser, whatever, that guy's name is. So I just want to say, I would like to apologize for all the time. I said he was a great man who did nothing wrong. Oh, man. That's amazing. Yeah, it's good. You want to get ahead of that.

Yeah, I had not heard that about Mr. Pusser. unfortunate. Good Lord. I guess we should have saw it coming as a law enforcement officer from Tennessee. Yeah. It literally, like the day I sent in that commentary like two days later, that was an house.

Luckily, luckily the Rock isn't playing him in that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man, that's so funny. Well, I was going to do it for this episode on Ninja Colon Shadow of a Tier. But listen, white guy karate month is just getting started. want to listen to these episodes, ad free. Just head on over to that Patreon, baby.

Patreon.com slash We Hate Movies, where all new We Hate Movies episodes come out commercial free, but there's also a lot of bonus shows on there. Certain things are being affected by this white guy karate month. I'll say that last week we did put out a WLM episode on Bloodsport, little J-CVD, Coometee fighting tournament action. Hell yeah. Some cheek, some cheek folks.

I'm not kidding you. The cheekage. Sheikitude. Unbelievable. If you are listening to this episode, Ninja Shadow Viteer, on the day it comes out, which is February the 10th, just two days from now on the 12th, we'll be releasing our next once-in-a-lifetime episode, which Chris Cabin, we do get a little fighty on this one, do we not?

We do indeed, a fatal defense. And we really, again, the bottom of the barrel of the stalker sub-genre, I have to say. This one really bummed me out, but we had a great, great conversation about it, really funny. The acting is about as worse as, as bad as you can get folks.

There you go. And that's not Scott Atkins' quality. No, not even close. Sort of a white girl karate movie where it's a bad guy, self-defense instructor, so you know you're going to have a good time listening to this episode. Absolutely. So that is this Thursday. And then this Friday, to celebrate Friday the 13th and all the terror that comes with it,

the next Melro 210 episode is coming out where things are getting crazy on Melrose Place. not crazy just yet on 90210. Is that also right, Chris Cabin? Well, we're just getting ready to get Brenda out to Minnesota. You know, this is very important. Get her away from, because she's definitely going to stay there. And, you know, and soak it all in.

So we're just, you know, getting everybody settled. But yeah, Melrose Place. Everybody's kidnapping babies. It's wonderful, isn't it? As was the style of the time. Every time. Yeah, so the madness continues on there. Next week we got an animation damnation coming out with Steve.

This is also in our martial arts white guy karate month. It's true. We're talking the Karate Kid cartoon, which I forgot. We did do, but we did do it a million and a half years ago. Pretty much new to everybody on this show when we watch it. It'll be an episode about Daniel Laruso coming home to the East Coast and running afoul of God knows one. Oh my God. I'm so excited for that.

What is he going to get up to in New York? Jersey. But I think they're just. But I think they just put them in New York. Okay. We're definitely going to get some bad Brooklyn accents for sure. The Pips and the Chuds. So that's the animation damnation of this coming out next week.

And also next week is the next bleep glossary, Mr. Ciske. That's right. We're doing a white guy Jedi. You know, this precocious asshole, Kip Doran. If you were a lonely kid, you might know who that guy is. He was in novels from the Star Wars Expanded. universe. I saw some people saying like, oh, the Gleap Glossary, I didn't listen to it for so long because I thought it was pro all these expanded universe characters. No, no, no. We take the piss out of everything. So definitely

tune in to that Gleap Glossary. I also want to really quickly say, Andrew, we have that Patreon archive up there with all these old episodes. You could get China O'Brien there. Did we do no retreat, no surrender. There's a lot of these type of movies we've done before. So if you're enjoying this month, go check out that archive. There's American Shaolin. There's Jim Cotta. My God, Eric, the crown jewel of white guy karate. Jim Cada is right there for you folks. We are no stranger to white guy karate. So definitely look at the back catalog. That's all I'm going to say. Absolutely. And let's see. The 17th of this month, Steve Sadek, that's something for our top tier supporters that will be live for. Yeah, it's a little, it's a little something called WHM After Dark. It's a 8 p.m. Eastern.

We've taken your questions from Patreon and the chat. It's an hour long hangout. It's super fun. We go deep on that guy. It's super happening. Dirty secrets that we don't want anyone else to hear. That's why it's the top is, top is tier. And also, if you get that top is top is tier, this sounds like I'm getting a restaurant order. Topas. Maybe I'm hungry. If you do that as well, if you get the Craven tier is what we're calling it. You also unlock our episodes that are video and audio, your choice of,

you get both, but you can listen to his audio, you can watch it as a video. 28 years later, we just put out an episode, a full episode on that, and we have a full episode on Barbarian as well up there. You can access right now.

That's right. We're also doing, we're back to the regularly scheduled program on the Nexus for this month. So we'll be doing one episode of Tostas, one episode of TNG, which is going to be a lot of fun. We also have the kickboxermentary, which is coming out at the very end of the month on the 27th. That is us talking over J-CVD and Kickboxer, so White Guy Karate over there as well. Also, we just announced it, and I was just looking back on it.

But again, if you were listening to this on the day it comes out, two days from now, on the 12th, we will be live on YouTube and Twitch at 5 p.m. Eastern to do something we haven't done in a while, which is W. Which is different than After Dark. Mailbag is open to everybody, and it's us more reading. full letters and stories that people write in. I'm not telling you about my childhood there. Not as in depth

as after dark. I mean, yeah, he will either way. One way you're going to get it. You're going to hear about it. But you will. You absolutely will. But yeah, get your humiliations into the mailbag as soon as possible. I need to collate these things. I need to get them going for these folks.

So come on, folks. Get it in there. That's right. That's right. So that's going on the 12th, 5 p.m. Eastern. It will be turned over into audio, of course. on the free feed later on. And also Los Angeles, just in a couple weeks, baby.

We are going to be on your show. We're going to be at the Highlywood Improv on the Sunday, the 22nd. We're talking Broken Arrow. No white guy karate there, but it is directed by John Wu, and it's awesome-ish. Travolta, Slater.

It's a fun time. We're going to want to come out to that. See us live on the 22nd. Tickets on sale for that WHM Podcast.com. And as we go along here, the show continues next Tuesday, Steve Sadek, with another most.

picture. What are we talking about? It is one of three movies where John Claude Van Damme shares the screen with John Claude Van Dam. It is a replicant. Oh, yes. This is a direct-to-video joint where one's a serial killer and the other one's a clone, I want to say. He's not a clone. He's a replicant. I apologize.

And they really get nasty in the movie when someone calls him a clone. And the scientist is like, oh, he's a replica. Okay, okay. It's also Michael Rooker is the cop who is assigned to take this replicent out that is indeed psychically linked to the JCPD serial killer guy. And you guessed it, folks, he is treating this clone like a dog through the whole movie. So until next week, when we're dealing with two JCPDs in Repliquant, I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen Seda. Eric's Cisco.

Chris Cabin. Brandon Straston. Take it easy.