We Hate Movies - S16 Ep859: City of Angels (1998)

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

“He’s the best part of this movie” - Chris on Dennis FranzOn this week’s show, Remake-ril heads to Los Angeles as we chat about the sappy Hollywood remake, City of Angels! A reimagining of W...im Wenders’ 1987 masterpiece, Wings of Desire, this film features Nicholas Cage as the lovelorn angel… Seth? How great, truly, is Dennis Franz in this movie? Why couldn’t they have kept Meg’s character a trapeze artist instead of switching it to a doctor? Should these angels be watching stuff like bath tub shenanigans? How weird is it to hear Sarah McLachlin’s “Angel” when that dog PSA isn’t on your TV? Does Colm Feore’s character give one of the worst movie marriage proposals of all time? And was that Michael Mann as the cigarette-smoking bar extra? PLUS: What a Rolling Rock commercial! City of Angels stars Meg Ryan, Nicholas Cage, Andre Braugher, Colm Feore, Robin Bartlett, Joanna Merlin, and Dennis Franz as Mr. Messinger; directed by Brad Silberling.This episode is brought to you by Hims! Ready to reach your goals? Visit hims dot com slash WHM to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you.Be sure to visit the WHM Merch shop over on Dashery and check out all the latest show-related designs you can slap on t-shirts, hats, coffee mugs, stickers, whatever! Make your friends jealous by flaunting some WHM merch today! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, well, I don't want the world to see me because I don't think they'd understand what the hell I was doing watching this movie. We're talking City of Angels. I'm Andrew Juppin. Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Falling Chris Cabin. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Welcome to the fine program, as always. Thank you for tuning in this week because that's right. Remake roll continues. Because we're talking about City of Angels from 1998, directed by Brad Silber. Now, this guy, you may recall his work previous episode a long time ago. Casper, the friendly ghost, he directed that motion picture. Moonlight Mile, which I think is a Jake Gyllenhaal. It is indeed.
Starting point is 00:01:09 A movie from the Outs I didn't see. Land of the Lost, the Will Ferrell adaptation there. And also the adaptation, a series of unfortunate events, the Lemonys Snick at Netflix. Oh, the movie's called that. I thought you were saying it's filmography. I mean, what's the best there? Casper? Casper is kind of the best of the bunch.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I think so. Some would say this. Some would say this. Who would say this, Steve? I think somebody must. He gave the lone thumbs up on this fucker. Because it's nice and romantic. I'm using air quotes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:47 You don't have to see the fucking farting ghosts from Casper as well. I mean, I don't know. This is, it's a tough filmography. That's the thing is Casper at least would make somebody happy. Like, Casper is making kids happy. They're laughing their ass off. They're in fun. Lemony Snickett as well, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:03 But Moonlight Mile and this movie, I don't know if even the people who are desperate for love are going to really enjoy whatever this shit is that they're being given here. I took literally a world-class nap during Moonlight Mile. Like, I kind of had it on. Like, it was a Saturday afternoon. And I was just like, what if I rested my eyes? during this boring, dour movie. There you go.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, of course, this is a remake of the Vim Vendor's classic Wings of Desire from 1987 with Bruno Gons and Peter Falk. Both of them, Angels now, of course. And Nick Cave. Nick Cave was also... Nick Cave for a fashion
Starting point is 00:02:40 is in the motion picture. I'll say off the bat, I'd prefer they kept Meg Ryan as a fucking circus performer than a doctor. I'll tell you that much. Sounds great. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:02:51 harder. Harder work, I'll say that. He falls in love with it. She's like a trapeze artist, I think, right? Yes, she is. Yeah. Yes. Like, way more interesting than a fucking doctor. Do doctors were a dime a dozen in the 90s? Visually, at the very least, yes, it's much more interesting. But I think we were talking about this on the text chain. We were all about hospitals at the moment. Yes, we were hospital fucking crazy at the time. Well, you know, also, it's smart for Nick Cage, right? Because his Seth character,
Starting point is 00:03:21 there. He's been watching. He knows what the U.S. economy is. He knows that these guys make money these doctors. And then she's got this Lake Tahoe House in addition to this very, very nice L.A. apartment with a view. I will fall for you, but you should transfer your assets to be before you die.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I couldn't believe it. You guys, you didn't get married first. I was really brutal to see that happen. All of poor Seth tables, or Seth plates. But the thing is, the the Acrobat v. Doctor bit and a bunch of the changes in this. I've seen Wings of Desire a couple times.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's one of my wife's favorite movies. We've seen it like four or five times in our courtship 16 years. But this movie just removes all of the artistry, all of the actual like whatever. Strip it for parts. Exactly. It's actually a very logical like, oh, we're going to make this into a big blockbuster movie.
Starting point is 00:04:17 We're going to make the angel stuff make super sense. Everything's going to be very clean with the. rules are and how everything works and it's going to be very, very laid out how this movie makes sense. And it does, but it just, it lacks any and all artistry, any and all kind of like, whatever that movie is saying about life and humanity. And also, and I'm sorry, the Wings of desire ends with her being like, hey, Bruno Gans, I've got some great news for you. I'm in love with this dude and it's awesome and life's amazing. And he's like, I have learned what it's like to be human. And this movie has to traffic in the Hollywood
Starting point is 00:04:51 cliche shit of she just fucking runs into a logging truck like final destination. Come on now. Also, you're a doctor. Heal thyself. You're on the side of the road. Can't you do something. Get healing. I hate to say, there's some things you cannot heal, such as truck.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Truck cannot be healed. First of all, real quick, she's colliding into truck. Bicycle into truck versus truck into bicycle. I agree. How fast was she going? We'll talk about this when we get to this moment. But this movie should end with like Meg Ryan. Like, you know, the movie's over.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Like the credits are going up, unvited played. And then we just cut back into a library. And Meg Ryan's like, hi, we all had a lot of fun tonight. We hope you did too. We had a lot of fun making the movie. Driving come drunk is just as dangerous as driving actually drunk. Totally. That's what I'm here to tell you.
Starting point is 00:05:43 You have to give at least 10 hours between getting, having an orgasm and getting behind the wheel of anything. And I'm an actor. And I'm not really dead, just so you know. And anyway, why don't you support your local library? This is a wonderful system we have, and we've bit this since the beginning of our age. Honestly, though, like, you know, if you just got fucking pumped and you were at the filling station for a second thing, the least you could do is put a helmet on when you're riding a bicycle. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yes. One in nine women die behind the wheel have been come drunk. That is proven. Nicholas Cage here. I'm actually not an angel. I hope you had fun tonight. We did. We all did. You know, people's evenings at the movies
Starting point is 00:06:27 were starting out on a fun note and not the dower fucking running into a truck and killing herself end of the movie. The front of this, do you guys read what was going on on the trivia? No. This movie was preceded by something called
Starting point is 00:06:43 the title is Another Froggy Evening. It's a Michigan J. Frog Loonoon-Toon shirt because Warner Brothers was doing these up and down the 90s. We discovered this. Because Tooby's got all these Looney Tunes collections now, and we were watching ones from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And when I looked them up on IMDB, time after time, it was like, played in front of this movie it shouldn't have. Played in front of this movie it shouldn't have. And this fucking Michigan J. Frost, and I looked it up, it's like, Michigan J. Frog through the ages, and he's, like, influencing historical figures or something.
Starting point is 00:07:16 What? Yes. It's kind of like the first Minions movie. Oh, no. Hey, real quick here, let me just pull this chair around. It's Dennis Fritz. We all had fun tonight. But men also can suffer from come drunk driving, you understand? That's if your cock goes blasty, it's time for a taxi.
Starting point is 00:07:36 That's me, Dennis Frans. I have been personally railed by Nicholas Cage, and I can tell you right now, there is no, you cannot move, but 15 minutes after he's tucking his big one up your Oh, those are two heavenly bodies wrestling. I'd love to see. Riving together. Oh, and a, boing, boing, boing. Hello, my babies.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Hello, my darlings. This is me, Michigan J. Frog here. Just to tell you, I did not actually travel through time and influence all those historical figures. Also, yes, I am a talking frog because I'm an actor. Most frogs cannot talk. Back to you, Dennis Fron. See, in reality, it was Hitler's idea, not mine.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You know, these days up in heaven, I'm dating Maggie. me and Maggie are getting along with and yes I hop right in there every morning just to give her the what's what we start with a little girl dying a little fucking girl dying yeah Susan
Starting point is 00:08:29 this is great yeah she's getting too hot so the mom just tosses her in the tub this is one of the few scenes where I'm kind of like you almost other than the mother you are almost getting the tone of wings of desire like the distance is correct like all like him with the girl
Starting point is 00:08:46 is actually like oh wait maybe you got it. I don't know. Maybe you figured it out. I don't know. But immediately it fucking fucks it. You're totally right. I'm watching this. I was like, okay, this actually works. Like he's just there with the girl and you see them like go to the hospital and it's all like totally fine. And I'm like, yeah, this is, okay, it's passing the smell test so far. This is great. And then she goes, are you God? And he goes, no, my name's Seth. And I was like, I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Also, she says, kid mommy come and he says, no. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. You can't deny a dying girl her final wish.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Grab her mother's soul out of her life. I think she's already dead there. Dude, she missed the fucking window on that wish. I'm doing this like bet with another angel friend of mine. What was your favorite thing about being alive, which you no longer are, by the way? This is tragic as hell. Look at the year this came out, what, 98? This little girl would have grown up and thrived during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:09:46 a lot of time that I did not oh man so we cut to Cage talking with Andre Brower here and so Cage may be Seth
Starting point is 00:09:59 but they kept Andre Brower's name from the original he is Cassiel if they kept a cage who should be like Domiel or something like that
Starting point is 00:10:07 sounds right what why does Andre have to be like it does but like if he's Seth he's just got to be John you can have it both ways. And I understand Seth is
Starting point is 00:10:18 a biblical name. I thought that was like a skateboarder name. I mean, it sounds like a skateboarder. I mean, it was a biblical name. But yes, like the AL thing, I think that's how they do it in Wings of Desire. I forget they're like Casiel and something or other. Damio. Yeah, you can't just like,
Starting point is 00:10:33 oh, now I'm Sethia. It's Casiel and Ted. Your ex are bogus journey. It's hard enough to convince people. Like, you're trying to convince her that you are an angel and that like you have these choices. That's not, that's hard enough with Seth as your name. I'm Damiol.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I would be your new boyfriend, Damiol. At least change it to Damien or something. Dominic, easy enough. The Damian thing right there, I think those names sound evil to an American ear. You know, probably. Demons. I mean, hey, look, fallen angel. Like, hey, quick question, Dennis Franz, are you actually the devil?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Because you're telling me to be a fallen angel. I think I know a little something about fallen angel. Of course he's the most beautiful of them all, Lucifer, and it's Dennis Franz. People were uglier back then. You got to understand. I had Gis all fooled. I am
Starting point is 00:11:27 the devil. In Bible times, everyone was ugly as sin. Who else would have ordered a ham club sandwich with pancakes and strawberries? But the devil. That's right. It's spicy sausage, because
Starting point is 00:11:43 I'm the devil. I mean, he's a glutton, he's a hedonist, he says. I love him. He smokes like a chimney. This guy is, well, he's definitely a sinner. He's the best part of this movie. Beyond, beyond. He's just the best part.
Starting point is 00:11:57 What, this kind of breaks the spells. Once we see Andre Brower and Nick Cage talking on that sign, I'm like, the green screen on this thing looks so fucking bad. It's rough. I'm like, oh, no, I'm out. I'm out, guys. I thought I was watching an early, early days funnier die sketch or something. It's a heavenly shit. that makes it look artificial.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Sure. Oh, I think you said heavenly shitter, dude. Because it looks like fucking shit. What are you talking about? Terrible. Yeah, if anyone needs me, I'll be into heavenly shitter. That's what I just called a bathroom. I decorated in the house here with all the angel memorabilia on the walls.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That's the heavenly shitter. I do. There is this weird because these angels are watching. And I think there's something like Nick Cage is like, oh, did you know this girl? I saw this man on the on the elevator touch a woman's back and then he touched her bear back and then they and he's like dude day he's like yeah they did and I watched them fuck yeah it's like a weird like they're watching anytime you're fucking ladies and gentlemen an angel is watching at the foot of the head of course seemingly they get horny and they probably have I mean they can't feel like we feel no right can they but do they they don't have genitalia famously we're unclear on that in this when when you fall you're get your genitalia. Before that, it's not there. It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Gravity brings it to Earth and takes that bump and turns it into a schlong. Uh-huh. As I understand it. Is that how you understand it? Okay. Well, that's what the manual said anyway. I do love all these, like, throughout the movie, like, it's not just throughout the movie,
Starting point is 00:13:37 whenever we're getting like these wides of Los Angeles, if it's not like B-roll that they paid to license, like if they actually went and filmed it, they are placing angels kind of all over the place and it becomes like a fucking, like the Matrix wears Waldo, because they all just look like agent Smiths and the black get-ups.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I kind of like it because it's the one bit of humor in this. Like, this movie takes itself so fucking seriously. It's so treakly shit. And like I, I'm just like, oh, there's this like, there's one where he's going through the hospital and there's just some guy who's like
Starting point is 00:14:11 watching cartoons with the kids with like, And I'm like, fine, there's a laugh there. Finally, it's just something. An angel, like, finding Looney Tunes Remarkable is a pretty good shot. Yeah, that's good. Well, here's a question. Can you just, like, if you're an angel, like, you know, could you just, like, go to the movies?
Starting point is 00:14:27 It doesn't seem like you're assigned to anybody. You're just supposed to, like, kind of walk the earth. And if you see trouble, you're just, you're like, you're like fucking, Keith, John, which Caridine is it from, uh, Kung Fu? David Caradian. David Caridian. Like, you just walking the earth. solving problems as they come to you.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Yeah. That sounds pretty good. Honestly, I would like just to chill out for a while. If I could be an angel, that'd be fantastic. But that's not chilling out there. That's like you're walking around. You're constantly on the watch for shit. Like if you're assigned to a person, then at least you're like, well, you know, my guy's asleep. He's doing good. No signs from the big man upstairs. I got to take him in the night. So now I can go to the movies. But what if your person's like a pig or like some like, There's something off, but you just don't like their company.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And I'd rather just walk around and just find my own trouble. I can't believe I was assigned to a gooner. He's gooting. He's been goading non-stop. Whenever I go, I know you're here. There's no angels near gooners. We know this much.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Only demons hang out there. Like, yeah, keep doing it. I love it. Keep doing it. Longer. Oh, no. My gooners is going to. to get a blood clot in his leg.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Better convince him to stand up so he doesn't die. Another paycheck. Send it to Only fans. Yes. Yes. She really likes you. It is nice to see that it's not just like we're helping people who are like lonely or distraught or whatever. I love really doing a service here.
Starting point is 00:16:04 The air traffic controller who's like worried about credit card bills. And then Nicholas Cage has to be like, oh, hey man, incoming design. But dude, you're a god guy. Help him out with those bills. Figure something out. Maybe divert that plane into the credit card building. Limitations. Limitations, Eric. He doesn't got it. And did you notice who the air traffic controller was?
Starting point is 00:16:26 No. No, I didn't. One Jay Patterson, April's boss from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Oh, shit. All right. Dan. Dan. My grown son, Dan. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:16:40 No, not Seth Green. I can't focus on all these planes My son's mission with the Ninja Turtles It's fine The Ninja Turtles are fine The turtles will find your son You need to find a way for this flight path to clear He's not taking any of the foot clan to heaven
Starting point is 00:16:55 Because he's like, I thought they were robots I saw it in the cartoon And the video games Oh son of a bitch those were teenage children Oh this is a fucking black eye on heaven I'll tell you that much Now I gotta fall I guess And also, but that's a good point
Starting point is 00:17:13 You know, because like he's like, you know, mostly, I think he says at some point, mostly he buries people into death. That seems like a specific job. Like people are dying in Los Angeles, people are dying left and right. This guy'd be running ragged all over the place. But he could fuck around.
Starting point is 00:17:27 There's a lot of, yeah. A bunch of them. And I like, you see the attendance at those fucking beach parties at dawn and dusk? There's a lot of angels out there. Too many angels. It's not really special anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Well, that's why I guess it's like, it's okay if he falls like, well, What? There's like fucking 50 guys. I can't fart without an angel behind me. And God can make that shit anytime he likes. It's not like he has the procreter. I think he just snaps his fingers. Oh, he has a bunch of new angels.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Sure, but what happens if he doesn't get the guy in time? Does he just resuscitate and live? And it's like, oh, shit. Or does the devils get him? That's right. The devil got him. That's, I mean, Eric, what you're talking about? I'm glad we only, like, I was kind of pissed off about the amount of information I get anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I'm not huge on rules. I don't need that many of them to be given to me when a movie like this starts. So I don't want any more than I get. And I'm kind of glad that we only get as much as we do so that they can play a little bit with the in between. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's not a ton here.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Like, he's beating back up with Andre Brower and Andre Brower is talking about how angels were never humans to begin with. He's like, something, something. This little girl asked me one time if I had wings. And there's a great line like, what could would wings be if you couldn't feel the wind on your face, which I think is a line possibly directly, right from the OG.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But yeah, this is where all the angels are on the beach watching the sunrise, and it's like, shh, could you guys stop talking about what we are? The sun is rising. You're ruining it. But apparently there's beautiful music that we can't hear. We're not angels. That's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:19:00 That is kind of the best part of the movie when Dennis Franz realizes he can no longer hear. That's kind of, it's the closest Dennis Franz has ever come to breaking my heart. It's right before I see as ass. So I'm happy as a clam here. This is a beautiful scene. The music should be the Gougu dolls. They only exist in
Starting point is 00:19:15 heaven. Yeah, of course. I was going to say my mom A, like this was her tear-jurker movie. Like if she wanted to cry a bit, she would put this movie on. She had the soundtrack. This is how I was introduced to Jimmy Hendrix. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Okay. Red House is in this movie. And it's one of my favorite songs ever. But like, I was listening. I was like, oh, the rest of this is garbage. Except for the Paula Cole song, which talks about, it's when she's like fingering herself and after she first meets Seth. And there's an actual line that says, I have the Amazon between my legs right now. I'm like, holy shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:53 First of all, I will not allow any Alanis uninvited slander on this podcast. Yeah, that's a great tune. It's a fucking banger. I kind of agree with Chris. Oh, it's a banger ladies and time. And also I have an affinity for the Gougu Dolls Iris as well. That's more of an ironic love. That belongs in the kingdom of heaven.
Starting point is 00:20:11 That is a great song. That was like, it's weird. Like they wrote that song for this soundtrack. And then it later went on the Dizzy Up the Girl record. And I wasn't going to nerdy text you guys about it. But I don't know if you noticed. The version that we hear in this movie is not the version that everybody is more traditionally familiar with. It's a completely different recording.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's like Johnny by himself. It doesn't seem like the rest of the dolls are. there. It's a little less on the production end. Yes. It's not as beefed up. Yeah. Hey folks, today's episode is brought to you in part by Hymns. Now look, you don't want to just lose weight, right? You want to look better and feel better. That's why weight loss by Hems now offers access to the FDA approved Wigovee pill and the FDA approved Wigovie Pen. Wegovi is designed to help you lose weight and keep it off so you can stay on track. with your goals. With Wigovi at Hymns, lose up to 20% or more of your body weight when combined
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Starting point is 00:22:26 By the way, some social commentary here at the start where Meg Ryan's at work in this hospital, you see a surgeon reading People magazine and tossing it into the biohazard thing. What you believe in? Oh, my God. Celebrity culture just got away from us. Well, that's when we're having, like, because she just kind of goes to work and like she's a cool, toughest shit doctor.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And like she's a searching. She's shushing and booming on her bicycle to get the work, though. Isn't she fucking no helmet to be found? Honestly, not a good doctor. First person I see, she kills.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And then she's got terrible bedside manner with everything. Awful bedside. She's a terrible fucking doctor. But she, but the people magazine bothered me because like, it's like, oh, we're kind of doctors having fun. We blasted Jimmy Hendrix, as Chris said.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And she's like, cool. I got. this one and then like while they're doing it this dude is reading a people magazine next to an open wound like i don't know magazines are fucking filthy that should be nowhere near the surgery room yeah like what fucking waiting room did you pull that from what other gunk is all over it have you seen a fucking newsstand i don't want to come to and have a paper cut that would be bad i i do agree with that my i also my mom loved this because the uh rosenfeld when she comes in she asked who cathed them and Rosenfeld
Starting point is 00:23:42 did it. That's what my mom did for many years. Oh, okay. She cathed people. She was the person who came. She was, she would have been Rosenfeld, but she wouldn't have fucked it up like Rosenfeld does. She was a A plus, uh, cather. Is the catheter fucked up on top of everything else that gets fucked up for this poor guy?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Well, she said, she's like, who cat this guy? As if somebody fucked it up. I know. Oh, got it. Got it. Uh, yeah, they, they do this surgery. The dude like, you know, I guess sort of like tentatively makes it through. got a gag about, oh, no, I'm missing a sponge. I'm like, what is this hospital, dude?
Starting point is 00:24:15 Great question. Take me fucking anywhere else. Holy God. And, but like, she walks out to wash up. I don't know, it's a little, a little blaze for my taste. Like, watch the man get sewn up, you know, make sure everything's okay. Yeah, dude, she's walking out, like, like, when the team thinks they've won the big game, but there's still 30 seconds on the clock, and someone fucking nails a nasty ass.
Starting point is 00:24:40 three. Uh-huh. Fuck some. Yeah, this is what happens here. I'm very happy that the pit kind of dispelled a lot of these playful like this, the playing of music during surgery
Starting point is 00:24:52 was kind of be like, oh, you know, we have fun here. It's not all life and death. We have some music. We're all putting on some sugar A here. Here we go. Listen to some sugar A while I'm sure it happens to some people, you know, I'm sure some doctors do that because it's like taking out the trash, you know. It's just any other goddamn
Starting point is 00:25:08 job day in a day out. You know, want to deal with this crap. Well, it's also supposedly like a concentration thing I've heard, you know. It's to, it's a lesson the stress. Like, it's to make it feel like it's not life and death. That's mainly the reason to do it. Because it's not for them. Dr. Strange, he was
Starting point is 00:25:24 another doctor that enjoyed operating to music. Hey, play whatever we got the license for. That's right. Be Dr. Strange. What pop song will make this popier? I wonder if it might be some cool guitar-driven Jack White tunes or something.
Starting point is 00:25:40 How about some, how is some discotheque music? I like that chic band. Let's get a chic in here. But this so, dies. Yeah, yeah, totally dies.
Starting point is 00:25:49 She goes back. They're like, uh, hey, would you want to come back in here and maybe finish the job? Yes. She tries to like resuscitate this guy full on like, I'm holding my,
Starting point is 00:25:59 like the dude's heart, like, massaging it. I think she sees Cage for a second or possibly he sees her. That's the, this is the big, like, well,
Starting point is 00:26:06 he's, he's not her as such as it would be. He likes what he sees. It's a weird. I think she just looks up and she's supposed to be like staring at a monitor or something and he's like, oh, wait, me, you, wait, you, you're looking at me. Is that you look me? Oh, I didn't tell you you could do that. I usually tell them they can do that. Oh, don't, don't look. I have to put it on my face. Dude, you've got some really nasty like Meg Ryan hot shot surgeon shit right here too. Because like, I think it's the People magazine reader. He's like, uh, he's going. And Meg Ryan's just like, he's not going anywhere. Instantly. dead. So she has to go, like, the family is having a nice time in the waiting group because apparently this wasn't a big deal of his surgery. Yeah. And she's just like, yep, we lost them. What do you want from me? And like their devo, the mother, by the way, Deirdre O'Connell had a great year.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Hell yeah. Yeah. Penguin mom. Yeah, the penguin mom also from Eddington, great in Eddington as well. Oh yeah. I didn't even think. Yeah. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, paling around in the waiting room. Yes. It must have been a thing where it was like, someone had told them, like, it's not that big of a deal because we hear on the way in what happened, the guy collapsed jogging. Like, I'm sorry. If someone collapses while they're exercising
Starting point is 00:27:18 and they have to go to the hospital, I'm not fucking joking around in the waiting room. For fucking heart surgery, not so much. But she's just like, yep, he's dead. Oh, and like, you know, I guess it's to show that she needs to learn something or something. I don't know. I don't get it. She needs to learn to feel, and she needs
Starting point is 00:27:36 this angel that come down from heaven. and a teacher what they're about. Blass those back walls. Yeah, that's for sure. None of that fucking matters when she pancakes her fucking face against a logging truck. It matters nothing what this woman learns in this room. Isn't
Starting point is 00:27:52 that what life is? And you're so fleeting. Don't you understand? It's fleeting. Yeah, it's true. Maybe she looked away for a second and then hit that truck. She looked away for a second and cut this guy's heart open or whatever the fuck happened. But she cries in the stairway here afterwards and cages like it's okay
Starting point is 00:28:09 it's all right and this is we haven't said this yet but just like the original film angels can read everybody's thoughts so like she's just sitting there but thinking like I'm so sorry it was a textbook operation the room got so big and I got so small she thinks to herself no no no no
Starting point is 00:28:27 no none of this get it away I don't like it we cut to a much more interesting movie which is Seth and Cassiel cooling the temperatures at this liquor store robbery didn't even need Stephen Seagal to fix this shit No one got killed here Nary a robocop to be found I'm not even seeing some crashed bottles
Starting point is 00:28:49 You can't even get me a little clink of clank Crash on the block I'm fine Yeah nothing here It is one of those things though Like when you notice that the angels You know like calm the people down Like they stopped us from turning into again A Robocop-esque blood bath
Starting point is 00:29:03 Then you're like when this guy is like watching this lady finger herself in a little bit. You're like, couldn't he be doing something else? Like, couldn't you be like stopping a double homicide, a murder suicide? It's Los Angeles, man. I'm sure there's another liquor store being robbed right now.
Starting point is 00:29:19 What are you telling me is more important than watching Meg Ryan finger herself? That's a great question. What you, come on now. I'd be taking the night off too, Kevin. I'm going to kick back, have some angel beer. You're fine. Well, let her prove this.
Starting point is 00:29:35 This is so weird just to watch her. But yeah, so, like, they do stop. Like, it's very clear that the angels can affect human life if they, like, touch them and, like, bring them to sort of a sense of, like, calmness, I guess. Yeah, we do get a couple more, Andre Brower lists out some rules here. He's, because Cage is like, can people see us? Like, have you ever been seen by someone that's not a child or a dog or a dying person? And Andre Brower is like, well, they only see if you want them to.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So that's a little nugget put away there. Which is cool. You could scare the shit out. I would just like appear to people like in the middle of the road while a bus is coming. Do just do a bunch of jump scares. Like someone just to load in their house. Just go, bah! And then get out.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Absolutely. The guy who is the working the register at the liquor store is the guy who plays like the head SWAT commando in Christmas vacation. Oh yeah. When they break into the house at the end. Like, he also gives Brian Doyle-Murray's shit. Like, man, Mr. That is lower. Like, whatever he says to him.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I would be, if I had a rubber hose right now and you all and so forth. I said I gave it back. I never saw the Grand Canyon. I think he says soon. I'm like, if that's my thought as I'm going out of here, not like, oh, my God, I love my wife. Oh, my God. Yeah. I love my dogs.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Well, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. The Grand Canyon is very special. I'm sure it is. I'll tell you this, dude, the majesty of the Grand Canyon. I understand what you're saying, Chris, but the majesty of the Grand Canyon at least beats the woman who's thinking, I should have gone to Ralph's instead. Should have to go to the grocery store instead of this convenience store. She's trying to get one off.
Starting point is 00:31:18 She's having to joke to herself. And that's how, if that's how I leave this world, sure, I deserve it. Also, I hate that the non-concessual reading of minds. Get out of here. You're not going to like what you find. Well, he doesn't get to, excuse me if I'm wrong, he can't read. Can he? I was wondering about
Starting point is 00:31:35 Can they read? I think it's an over thought Yeah, it's an overhearing of thoughts. Yeah, so he can't like, he couldn't read a book. He can only do that as a human being. So what else do you got, Eric? That's just like the one entertainment you have
Starting point is 00:31:47 is hearing people's hearts. The entertainment, my God, but these so-called angels, these are supposed to be the good guys. I'm entertainment to them. Yes, yeah, you are. It is also, it does sort of change things when occasionally they can get horrid.
Starting point is 00:32:01 They're not always horny, but apparently occasionally they can be like if you're super hot fingering yourself someone's like say you know but it's that weird it's and that's what's weird about this movie right is like like he's watching that fucking flick sesh and i mean well done if you can get tickets to the event she should be selling the tickets is what i'm saying but like i feel like as an angel it's kind of like he's like an alien sort of thing where it's like he shouldn't exactly know what she's doing and kind of Kind of like, what is happening to me? Yes. We're giving that to him, kind of. We're laying that on him, right? He's just curious.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Or even being above it. Like, oh, that's what they do. You know, oh, they're just doing that again. Yes, he should be above it. Also, if he doesn't have genitalia, we need to get that out of the way immediately. We should know somehow. Hey, Cassiel, isn't it weird that we don't have dicks?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yes, it is weird we don't have dicks. Thank you. That's perfect. Yes. I mean, and then why is he getting so? enamored with her. FYI, when you fall, you get a big old schvance like I did.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It popped out like an outy belly button, but it turned into a penis, you understand. Oh, very cool. Teresa calls it the old swinger. She likes it when I whip it around in a circle. I was falling from the heavens, and then all of a sudden it looked like my pelvis was given a thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah, I'm Lucifer, and this is my morning star. So the next morning Dr. Maggie has another surgery that she's going to get to But uh-oh, shitty boyfriend Column Fiore is like, Hey, I told your boss that you've got mental problems And we pushed this surgery for you. Also in Cage's face-off as the doctor.
Starting point is 00:33:49 He's doing the face-off surgery. Oh, fuck, you're totally right. Oh, wow. That's awesome. I'm due for a re-watch, man. It's been a while me in face-off. Wonderful movie. but yeah so this the failed surgery such as it was from the day before is like under review
Starting point is 00:34:06 and fior's like oh don't worry like you're not at fault we've got great insurance here and they're gonna push it to monday and that happens to be dennis franz's surgery denis franz by the really clear just to keep in mind he needs heart surgery i want to be really clear about what for the later of the film he has had heart surgery correct right yeah Pretty awesome thing. She's like, we fight for people's lives, but don't you ever wonder who we're fighting with?
Starting point is 00:34:36 And he's like, not really. Yeah. Oh, shit, maybe she does have mental problems. We do realize that she is an insomniac because like,
Starting point is 00:34:47 you know, is something like you didn't, I was going to come over. I wanted to sleep, but you'd never sleep when I'm there anyway or some such thing. Like she just got some sleep issues. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah. But it is funny because he does throw out like a why didn't you call me or whatever. And awesome cage reaction. Oh, yes. This movie is him just like staring eerily or otherwise. And when he, he, the angel, realizes that they're kind of, you know, shudp in one another here. He kind of does like the dog head tilt. Like, oh, oh, they're to get.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Oh, it's very funny. That's my girlfriend. If that guy's getting mugged, I'm not going to put my hand on that other guy's back. So he gets murdered. Because I'm a jealous angel. I've seen that head tilt before when two lovers are around. It was done by Michael Myers. What a sweetie.
Starting point is 00:35:38 He is creepy as hell. Again, like, it just does it. He's trying to be naive and innocent, but with the cagedness, it's just. Too much. It's creepy, man. It's fucking weird. It is because you're trying to play the romance element. But, like, what he's playing completely is the.
Starting point is 00:35:57 curious alien angel thing. That is all, he's not thinking about the romance or the comedy of it really, and that's kind of the issue in my opinion. I just realize a face-off thing here. Who played the better angel? Michael, John Travolta, Seth, City of Angels. Wow, they both
Starting point is 00:36:14 played Angels. Right? Wasn't he an angel in that, or was he just a weird fellow? No, he's an angel. Michael is the angel, Michael. Seth is the more like, in a different movie, I think his performance would work. Michael is just, it's too much jubilant. I can't deal with him.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I've never seen Michael. Is there a scene where John Travolta finds out what cake is or something? No, he's just eaten that. He's already done it. He's already gotten all that. He's kind of fat in that movie and he's just like, oh my angel days are behind me. I retired to the small town in Oklahoma or whatever. Yeah, and he's just eating big
Starting point is 00:36:46 steaks and the whole thing. Cigarettes. Lots of cigarettes on him. But it's phenomenal is where it turns out he's just got a brain tumor and does. Yes, but it also might be aliens to. They think for a bit. I think for a little. There is, I mean, Michael is an episode. Phenomenons and
Starting point is 00:37:01 episode. I was just going to say, I just realized we got a couple of Travolta's on the table here. We haven't thought about putting in the kitchen. Some Travolta's for the table. Also, and you could do it for the, what do you call it there, for the WLM of a Travolta themed month blowout and have fucking Dennis Franz
Starting point is 00:37:18 in that picture. Oh, shit. He plays a magnificent scumbag. I'm a pimp or whatever. And he's got the line like, this is going to be bigger than this a brooder film. Yes, he does. He fucking totally does, dude. Sorry, sorry, I asked for the Travolta's were supposed to be fried, not grilled.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Oh, I'm sorry. Like, I wouldn't, but I just prefer it that way. Yeah, we're bedded with charcoal. Squeeze a lemon, sorry. We go to, I guess, which is like, duh, everybody knows this is the sick angel hangout, the library. Yeah, of course. Which is from the first one.
Starting point is 00:37:55 It is from the first one. They even kind of have the similar. old timer here who is reading something else in the other movie I think yeah fucking Amy Brennaman is here for some reason for one second I was like dumb back actually Amy Brennan it's actually Amy Brennam she's the first age when you come in and they're going through the computers she's the first one you see I thought it was that's interesting yeah that makes sense it's uh there's also a she get cut maybe she got cut I don't know possibly uh Michael man is in this movie apparently according to IMDB yeah yeah I'll pull it up when when when
Starting point is 00:38:27 when Cage is at a bar smoking next to a guy who's also smoking, that's Michael Mann. That's Michael Mann? That's what the trivia says. Yes, that's the MDB trivia. But yeah, the old man is reading Ernest Tamingway's a movable feast.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And I guess, yeah, so he can't read, but if you're like sitting next to someone who's reading, reading over their shoulder, you could hear it. He does the hand thing, though. This is some Star Trek shit. He puts his fucking hand. over the cover of the movable feast.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And that, to me, gleans like he's read it because then he's fucking quoting it later to Meg Ryan. Which is weird. By the way, Chris Cabin, you are correct. I found it. The ass end of the IMDB cast page. Amy Brennam credited, or I guess uncredited, technically. Angel in Library at Computers.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Crazy. And, like, that's funny because of the Michael Man connection. She was just doing heat with him. Yeah, exactly, very bizarre. It would have been cool to have her have some lines like a family lane. You barely see, I mean, I don't remember in Wings of Desire. If there are female angels, there probably are, but I don't know. But it would be cool to see a female angel in this movie for even two seconds.
Starting point is 00:39:36 That'd be great. I would love that. Are there not like some lady angels on the beach? There probably are. I mean, but I mean with lines and what not. Yeah, that have some substance to them would be the thing. Sure, yeah. Never read a movable feast.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That's like him looking back on his life in Paris, right? I believe so. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. I never could tell if I was a man in a, to read Ernest Hemingway. I do find it funny, though, that like Hemingway is the, like, that's the
Starting point is 00:40:02 author they pick for these, like, genteel otherworldly creatures. Ernest Hemingway, sure, I guess. I guess it's a sensualist kind of a scenario, but... Well, it's all about the fucking food. Maybe he should just be listening to Action Bronson all the time. Oh, yeah, yeah, all food, all so much food. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Fuck, that's delicious. We're still a few years away from cooking shows. Honestly, I'd probably think it's a thing where it's like, regardless of having read the literature, you've heard the name Ernest Hemingway, so that when you show it, all the fucking slow joes of the back row can be like, garsh, we heard of that guy. Oh, smart guy stuff. Yeah, exactly. But this is where we meet him. Here's Dennis Franz, introduced to this movie, eat ice cream in a hospital bed.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. My guy right there. Do you want to get well or do you want Ben and Jerry? You know what, sweetheart? If you did your surgery yesterday, I'd be sucking carrots up a fucking straw in my arm or whatever the fuck you're going to do. I'd be eating the bacon, but the carrots would be getting up in there through the straw right there. But I'd be chomping down to bacon, of course. It's kind of amazing that that is how he is talking to this woman, very, very like how you would assume a Dennis Fron's character would speak, right?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Right. But, like, then you learn that he's like this angel that has previously had, like, knowledge of. everything and experienced everything and this, the other thing, and I'm like, now I see what you look like when you go fucking treat weight staff at an Applebee's asshole. Yeah, well, that's, I mean, he's with you know, he says like, oh, like,
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm not the procedure, this is my name, and then she just walks out of the room. She is terrible bedside manner. He's fine being a little rude. I don't think he's that rude. It's fine. He's a little, a little annoyed. If your stupid ass had done the surgery correctly, but you fucking fumbled
Starting point is 00:41:55 the ball on the one yard line you dumbass. Have I ever told my Dennis Franz story? Oh no. I don't know. So Dennis Franz, I went, me and Sof went to see inherent vice maybe like two weeks before it came out. There was a screening. And I got it. Like last minute is Dennis Franz and his wife come in and like are like shuffling behind people. And I'm like, oh my God, that's fucking Jim's France. It's like they're kind of shattering a little bit. Like, oh man, just show a little fucking traffic.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I'm not kidding you. 30 minutes into this movie, he's like, we got to get the fuck out of here. Just gets up and shuffles his way out. He was not having it. He did not enjoy the film. And the wife was right there with him. Yeah, we're getting out of here.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Honestly. What is this? A drug comedy. They like those now, I guess. Wow. Geez. You know, I was hoping he'd be more of a cinephile. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:55 He was not having it. I mean, maybe he came around. I assume he liked one bad after another. That would be, you know. Yes, of course. Linda, I told you that the fucking dinner was going to make me too jammed up and I wouldn't be able to sit through a two hour and 40 minute movie. Now look what's happening.
Starting point is 00:43:10 We got to leave. The lights are already down and I got to take a shit at home. Yeah, it's all that noki. I keep eating a noki. It really gums me up and say. If I don't shit now, I'm not going to shit, hon. It's one or the other. So we got to get right out of here right now.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah, and his defense, maybe it was a shit. scenario or a sickness scenario. He's an older guy, dude. Possible. I went to a retro of Raiders of the Lost Stark once and I started feeling
Starting point is 00:43:35 very ill almost immediately and I got up and left. Hopefully no one's like that Eric Shiska hates Raiders of the Lost Star. That's what they've all been saying, Eric. All over the place they've been saying,
Starting point is 00:43:47 oh, he hates it. Dude, you should have, when was this, by the way? Oh, shit. This was like 2016, 2017. Okay, so in letterboxed time. So what I would have done, because I would
Starting point is 00:43:58 have thought the same thing, dude, I would have been, I'd go to letterbox and be like five star rating, hey, if anyone saw me leaving the screening today, you know, because the New York Repertory scene is a very small, but robust community. If anyone saw me leaving the screening, trust me,
Starting point is 00:44:14 I love Raiders in the Lost Ark. I just had to take a shit and daddy's got to do that at home. Right, yes. Well, I actually, I didn't do Letterbox until a little later than that. So, I should go back and look if there's any reviews referencing you. How dare he leave?
Starting point is 00:44:31 That son of a bitch. Oh, these people who hate Spielberg, they're just so up their own ass, you know. Oh, by the way, Dennis Franz is right, Mrs. Messinger, played by Joanna Merlin, who you may recognize as a judge on SVU, I think 50 different times. I'm sure she was. She was mostly an SVU gal, but she was on some of the others playing, I think, the same judge. What was that last name again? Merlin.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Merlin, just like the magician. That's like a cartoon character. that's not a real name. Also rounding out the cast Robin Bartlett of Mad About You and Inside Lewin Davis plays like the pediatrician, her pediatrician friend. You're right because we go to baby jail now. We've got all the babies in these cages.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Well, it's kind of great because, you know, it's very funny because Meg Ryan loses a full-grown adult man and she's very sad about it and she's like, oh man, I should have got into pediatricians. And Rob Barle's like, no, you know how hard it is to lose a baby? And I'm losing babies like that, sister. It's pretty easy. It sounds like.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It's funny, you know, thinking about like the devastation that this Meg Ryan character is feeling for losing this. And I'm not saying like it ever gets easier for doctors and surgeons or whatever to lose patients. But like the way that she crumbles like this. I'm like, was this the first time it happened? Like how long has this character been a doctor? Right. Because she seems so surprised by the notion that she could even think about losing a patient. Aren't they all desensitized?
Starting point is 00:46:00 They're all desensitized this. It's like fine. It's like what's for lunch type of thing? Yeah, at least the males tend to be very like macho to kind of like block all that out. And I just like, yeah, I don't understand why. I would like to know how long she's been doing this and how long she's been. Or if this is a big one or what is making that even if Colm Fior is like, listen, we've lost patients for it. What makes this one special?
Starting point is 00:46:23 even if she's like, I don't know, damn it. That'd be something. You're totally right, Steve. But it just, it has to be addressed in something. Because you're right, Eric, they do train to sort of remove the emotion from it. Because you have, there's no way you can do this job if you can't do that. But like, that's why I'm like, was this the first time? What is going on?
Starting point is 00:46:39 Does she think that like this dude looked like a beloved uncle of hers that passed away also? Like, whatever it is, it's got to be something. You got to do that day and day. I remove the emotion from doing podcasts. You have to. Just in and out, you know, one. dies, that's fine. When she goes into the maternity ward
Starting point is 00:46:57 and is just sitting there, it's this weird moment where like she closes her eyes and she's kind of like just sort of spacing out and I was like she's acting as if she's listening to like a symphony over the speakers or something and I was like how is a maternity ward
Starting point is 00:47:12 the place like where you're chilling out? Like this is the quietest maternity word of all times. There's not a single crying baby in this thing. Well no, there's one that is won't shut the fuck up. I'll tell you that much. The one they found who in a dumpster behind a house of pies, which is quite something.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Maybe an angel shouldn't have been watching someone fucking jack off and put a hand on the back of the mother before she chucked that baby. That's what I think. These perfored angels are like, oh, no, dude, this dude's got a dildo and is going to town on himself. I am going to watch this instead of whatever that lady's doing in the dumps. That's boring shit. That's boring.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I agree with you initially, but then you pay. me that picture. I'm like, well, you got to watch that. I got to see how that turns out. No, yeah, technically I can't touch the baby. I can't get the baby out of the dumpster. I'm sorry. Stay in the dumpster. And this is just the weird, like, she is at this crossroads,
Starting point is 00:48:09 like professionally, personally, emotionally, emotionally, mentally, all this stuff. And then it just cuts to Nicholas Cage just staring at this woman, like Count Orlock. And I'm like, how did they not realize how funny this is? It's just, it is, I'm sorry, like, I could not, I should say, I don't know about you guys, I'd never seen this before. Oh my God. I'd seen the Goo Goo Dolls video a thousand times, so I've seen clips of this movie a bunch, but like, never before.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, I saw the theaters, man. Oh, really? Of course. I was going to the movie as every weekend and Nicholas Cage. Come on. Right. I definitely watched it. We rented it as a family.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I definitely saw it probably with everybody, is my guess. But it's just, I was blown away. I was like, this is so funny. And nobody talks about how funny this movie is. Because, I mean, like, in The Wings of His Eye, like, Bruno Gong's is kind of weird looking craggy. And, like, his stare is intense, but also, like, there's, it's compassionate and less, it's just significantly less weird.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And the emotional register is just different. Like, it's not this high-end fucking, like, weepy shit. Yes, exactly. And they know that that's what they're doing here. In that movie, it's ponderous. Gons is able to, uh, a telegraph a curiosity. that I think Cage is also trying to play Seth as a curious person, but again, just with the eyes and, you know, it's just a vampire performance. It is.
Starting point is 00:49:35 It is. And Silverling. I mean, I think it's also, the directing is just so off for what they want. Oh, yeah. Now make your eyes wider. Make your eyes wider now, you see. Wider, wider than that. We're going to make all these old bitches cry. I'm going to tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah, that's right. Brad Silberling is here to make these ladies cheer jerk. It does feel stilted and weird. And this is where Meg Ryan runs into him in the hallway, right? Yes, he's sort of like, he's like Blair witching the elevator bank for some reason. Creepy as fuck to stare at the wall. It is, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And he, and she sees him because he wants her to see him. And also at Wings of Desire, no one could ever see an angel. I think only the dying or something like that. Yeah, kids. Even Peter Falk doesn't see the, like he's like, I know you're there, but I can't see you. You know, like that. And that's kind of a cool way to do it. But here, he can reveal himself.
Starting point is 00:50:22 and he's like, I'm a messenger and what are visiting hours? Security, security. Yeah, exactly. David Koresh will come again. I mean, I don't know. Do you know how handsome he is and how hot he is? I mean, if he's that hot, like,
Starting point is 00:50:42 I wouldn't be calling those security. Just want to see. Well, we are two minus three minutes from fingering ourselves at a bathtub for sure. There we go. Yes, while we sensually drink a rolling rock. Dude, what are we doing? I love it.
Starting point is 00:50:56 But, like, yeah, like, oh, I was at work, and this hot guy came up to me and just went, are you in despair? Yeah. Like, okay. Like, either you're a serial killer, you're trying to recruit me from Scientology, or another thing. But get the fuck out of my hospital, please. Well, yes, but that's beside the point, sir. Are you in despair?
Starting point is 00:51:15 Would you like to be? Oh, stab, stab, stab. You know, people die when their bodies give out? Your patient is living, just not in the way you think. Security. And what I mean by that is I'm doing a weekend at Bernie's thing with him. We're walking down the street with this corpse. I would love it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Get some reggae playing all the time. Chest cavity fully open. Hell yeah, dude. Speaking of chest, I've never seen an angel with this much visible chest hair than Nick Cage has going on. But it's nice, though. Earlier in the movie, it's like this weird like rap shirt that he's wearing the covers it all up, but when he reveals himself to Maggie or Maggie here,
Starting point is 00:51:56 it's a very slutty shirt showing off these pecks, you know what I mean? You're a strong breeze away from having a nipple come out here. What a little slut. That's what sends her to the bathtub, which I believe it's the next scene where she's
Starting point is 00:52:12 got, and I love the telegraphing of the foot, foot up on a claw tub, you know exactly what's going on. Absolutely. I will just say, though, it's double reason to celebrate because Yes, the cage encounter happened, but also she has had the successful Dennis Fron surgery. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Because he's in the surgery room listening to her thoughts. No dying, Mr. Messenger. Not until you give me Seth's phone number. So there you know, he's doing a sexual espionage on this woman by reading her mind. She's into me. Nice. I also appreciate that she lit candles for this gooning session. Oh, well, dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:51 It's a real night in, you know what I mean? Set the mood. She's not, she's making love to herself. You know what I mean? She's not just jack it off. This is a real taking your time with it. You've been thinking about doing this this way since two days ago. Let me just listen to your thoughts really, Maggie.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Dennis Franz. Dennis Franz eating a chicken sandwich. Oh, oh no. Oh, Maggie, no. Dude, but this, Eric already mentioned it, but the fucking. the fact that this is rolling rock. Yeah. And not just like some anonymous glass of wine.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Not that like a woman can't drink a beer, but just the glistening rolling rock positioned right towards the camera like a bad commercial. Is it like afterwards? Is it a post-mastropos? Like a cigarette? No, I think it's like, I think we're, you know, walking and chewing gum at the same time. Plus you got to empty out that bottle.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You got wet up both holes. Yeah, you see. I guess all holes, really. You're flicking and then you just let out a fucking ghastly burp in the middle. That would be really funny. Totally, dude. Yeah, this is Paula Cole's feeling love is playing. Oh, she's feeling love all right.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Amazon. Amazon between my legs. My Christ. That rocks, dude. Wow. You think you, Elmer Toltero almost played this during, in the beginning of shape of water as well, with the egg timer. Should have, sir.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Come on. Does this or some shod? at least, Christ. Play the song from my favorite movie remake, City of Ames. I do wonder, like, we get a film series going of ladies gilling off in a bathtub. We've got this. We've got shape of water. Sure. Okay. Oh, does it have to be a bathtub? I guess maybe, all right, so any master, any few... Margo at the wedding, Nicole Kidman?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Oh, that's right. A wonderful one. Yeah. A wonderful one. Right there. That's the good one. I only know the short films I've seen online. Oh, those seven, eight ministers. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, sometimes there are maybe 20 or 40. Eric's favorite distributor porn hub. Well, don't go spreading that.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You got to spend something. And like you do a lot of these, you know, I know I do this all the time. Like I wake up from like a harrowing dream and I'm like, oh boy, glad to be back amongst the land of the living. Oh, it's 3 o'clock in the morning. Let's start a book for no reason. Let's start a book that I didn't, that should not be in my house. some conjuring shit. You go to sleep and you wake up, but there's a fucking book in your house that you didn't bring there fucking creepy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 It's like, the dead. The dead brought it. There's a bad wreck the dead. She even has some line to calm fjord at some point in a minute, like, oh, you left your book at my house and he's like, I didn't put that fucking book there. And she is not appropriately creeped out. That's the thing. I don't think I would know if like, and if it was like the bedside, sure, that would make sense. But, like, I just, I don't think I would not know. Like, there's plenty of books in my house that I, if I saw, like, I don't know if I own that.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I don't know if that's mine. Maybe. But it's just right on your bedside table. It is a little weird. And especially, that is when you, that is when you play the music differently, when Colm Fior says, I didn't leave that book, it's like, da, da, da. Yeah, exactly. I like the vibe Dr. boyfriend has right here. He's smoking a cigarette while playing basketball on the ER helipad.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I guess this is showing you the difference between them because he's like, yeah, I lost somebody but he's not too bummed about it. Right, yeah. He's practicing his fucking practicing his fadeaway jumper instead. So she goes to the library because also that's like, it's a library book.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yes. She takes the book back to the library and she's like, oh, can you let me know who took this out? Like I found it and the guy at the desk is like, well, I can't tell you that, but I can tell you when. She's like, oh, okay. And he goes, give me five minutes.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I was like, you need five minutes. Let's look this up. I don't know, man. How about just a tip tap? Do we ever check back in on that? Nope. No, so not at all. I was, I was waiting for her to do the George Costanza of Patton Oswald and just like, come on.
Starting point is 00:56:59 It should be like, it was never taken out. Oh, yeah, exactly. And also like, so he could move, I guess he could, he could, he wanted himself to be seen by that book so he could move it around. I don't know. Do inanimate objects count? That's a great question. I have no idea. I think you can manipulate objects.
Starting point is 00:57:18 That makes sense. If you could manipulate objects, again, like take the bullets out of the gun before the guy goes into the fucking store. He's busy doing the whole no human being would arrange books like this. Well, yeah, because we know he can move because when he does the mix the salad. He's trying to make the salad. We'll talk about that salad. Yes, we will. Bad salad.
Starting point is 00:57:42 So he's at the library here. Yes, Seth appears to her in the library. and like Andre Brower and the rest of these angels are like watching her like walk around the library or whatever. It's creepy dude again. You want them to be like, no, no. Hey, no.
Starting point is 00:57:59 How long has Nick Cage been alive as an angel? Oh, we're going to get to age gap. We're going to do age gap. It is actually. What's the angels? This is what we're going to do. No, it's not. You guys, it's not age gap.
Starting point is 00:58:10 That was in my notes. That's in my notes. It's not age gap. Nick Gap. Is this the first? one, you know what I mean? Yeah, fair. Yeah, exactly. I think so. He doesn't seem to have any like recollections of another person who felt this way about. Five thousand years or whatever it is to find the one. I mean, it's Meg Ryan, dude. Yeah. And I mean, have you met some of the
Starting point is 00:58:33 young men in America? I bet you would take 10,000. Yes, that's fair. Some of these fellows on the internet aren't having a lot of luck, huh? Pretty tough. In the original, I think they, the two of them have some line back and forth about like, we were here before Berlin was Berlin and we were here before people existed. If we're talking about that, then it's like they've been here since the condition of the land. Like we were here before people existed and now you see a person and you eventually want to fuck it. That's like seeing I was alive before dogs were here. Oh, there's a dog.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I want to fuck that. Do you think that's just the same thing right there? It's their different species. Thank you. They're different species. They're humanoids at least, though. Well, and Dr. boyfriend has that line when they wants to get married later.
Starting point is 00:59:23 We're the same species, which clearly these, Nick Cage is a different animal altogether. By the way, a great thing to toss into your fucking proposal. We're the same species. Might as well get hitched. What a fucking loser. Absolutely. He's like, oh, do you like a beautiful feast?
Starting point is 00:59:41 I left it in your house last night. Hope you're not weirded out by that. Read it to me. Read it to me. You know when you were coming last night? I thought you might like this book afterwards. And unbeknownst to him, he's reciting one of the sexier passages of this book. Because it's all about like talking about fucking eating oysters and drinking wine and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I lost the empty feeling and began to feel happy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's go to the- Doing it for you. Well, I also love they go to the They wind up like, it's like a long meat, cute date They go to the fucking farmer's market or whatever And as there was a montage of them shopping for fruit, okay?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yes. And as they're walking out, yeah, all the angels are like, should be like pointing like in the fucking omen like, No! Defiler! Oh, body snatchers. But this is like, the whole pear sequence,
Starting point is 01:00:38 I could eat a pear for hours. I thought the same fucking thing. Oh, I was saying it too. Describe it to me. Describe it like Hemingway. You know, I don't know what a pair tastes like to you. Yeah, exactly. She's like, oh, it's like sugar sand.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Oh, perfect. Yummy. I know this guy's eerie and sexy and stuff, but again, before you go to a second location, or as you're going to that second location, so what's your last name? What do you do? Do you live around here? Do you got a roommate, a wife?
Starting point is 01:01:08 What's going? Like, these are questions human beings ask. even when someone is so unearthly sexy. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm sure someone asked David Bowie where he was wrong. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You know, he's got to do it. But so she takes him to the hospital. Second part of this date, come to work with me. Okay. And this is a weird, she's like,
Starting point is 01:01:30 oh, you want to know, like, how I first wanted to become a doctor? I'm just going to need some of your blood. And he's like, oh. I don't have that.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Zudy goes, that's not going to be a possibility. Let me just go into this fridge you have here. Just get all the way. Get the fuck out of it. Oh, here's a little packet of it. I did it already.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I pre-did it for you. Wow, your pre-menopausal. They do later on when like him and Andre Brower are going back and forth, which I think is another like riff on Wings of Desire is like, you know, things that wouldn't it be cool if we could like just, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:08 do this as human beings like eat food you know see your reflection whatever the list is one of them is lying which means that these things cannot lie which the movie breaks that law at least twice. I mean a few times I would say so this could have turned into a liar liar situation which I would have preferred honestly. Of course yeah. Dude if this movie ended with Nicholas Cage beating himself up in a bathroom in my head right in a courtroom scene that's conducted by I don't know St. Peter?
Starting point is 01:02:39 Now we're thinking. Fantastic. So she puts her blood down under this microscope and she's like, that's me. Those cells. That's me. And he's like, weird. I have no understanding of any of this.
Starting point is 01:02:50 What are you talking about? I have no idea what you're doing. What are you saying to me right now? Dude, but then what he says here again, big red flag, he's like, oh, but so how do you explain the enduring myth of heaven? And I'd be like, oh, man. Did I bag a fucking super religious guy? He sounds like a cult member.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Oh, yeah. You don't have a pamphlet in that enormous jacket, do you? Because I do not want whatever pamphlet it is. No, I don't have a pamphlet. I have many pamphlets. And they're about how the help op comet is coming by. Oh, hell yeah. This was right around the time, I think.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I think so. Yeah, it's heaven's gate. It's fantastic. Didn't I tell you I'm a messenger from God? It's a normal thing to be. It's a very normal thing to do. He does say messenger. Doesn't he say something about being beeped?
Starting point is 01:03:37 Isn't there some beeping? Compeation. She gets beat. It's like a doctor joke, like a 90s doctor thing. Well, if I had, if I got your message, I guess you would have had to have beeped it to me. Oh, you've definitely been beeped. Yes, that's right. You've definitely been beeped. Oh, I'm beeping you right now. I think he thinks that means like the masturbating tub. Oh, yeah. You were beeping off last night. Right after you chugged that rolling rock. With that swirl thing, you did, you did a round. Yeah, you did your rounds.
Starting point is 01:04:08 counterclockwise swirl. You got beeped and you did your rounds. Casiel, is it wrong for me to watch women beep themselves? What's beeping? I do it all the time. Oh, Seth, do you mean masturbating? No, that's fine. Oh, Seth, you're such a young angel.
Starting point is 01:04:25 You know, actually, I saw some guy with a dildo go ham on himself yesterday. It was fantastic. Dude, a major alien moment here when he just goes, what happens when you cry? Oh, come on. Dude, get the fuck out of here. You've been alive 5,000 years. You've seen someone cry.
Starting point is 01:04:45 You've figured that shit out, dude. Yeah. But she does get beeped right here, and it's amazing because she starts treating him like the dog that he is. It's like, oh, stay right there. You stay. Stay. I'm getting beeped.
Starting point is 01:04:56 You stay, stay. Well, again, because you forgot to ask him anything about himself, where he works, what's his phone number, blah, blah, blah. Like, these are, like, because even if she asked that he was like cagey about it. then we could say like, oh, she at least asked. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:14 But she gets beeped, by the way, because Dennis Franz is fucking choking on something. Honestly, this seems like a thing this nurse should be able to be like, oh, that's what's doing it. Instead, this nurse is just sitting there like, I just don't know what's going on. He's just choking for some reason. And like Meg Ryan has to come in and sort of like free up his airway or whatever. And he's like, oh, yeah, that's much better there. That's, now I can get the cigar back down there. The tube or something was like locking his airwaves.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I imagine he tried to eat it. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, he goes, that's what he does. He leaves to go eat. I mean, it's right after this, right? Sorry, the tube, but I thought these are a bunch of gummy worms he gave me here. But yeah, Cage is in the room. He kind of does this weird, like, heart power up move to him where he like puts his hand over Franz's heart or whatever, and he goes to walk away.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And he's like, I know you're there. go back and tell him I'm not going. Not yet. I'm not. Yes. And then like, I guess Cage comes back later when he's watching Jerry Springer or whatever. And that's kind of thing. This week on the show, mothers who are also part of the Ku Klux Klan. And this is the same line that Falk uses, which I know you're there.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I can't see you, but I just know you're there. And then instead of having a very cool one-way conversation, which is the way the original goes, he reveals himself. Now we're just full-on having a little. geez, you look good. How do you know when I'm here? So here's the thing. Jeez, you look good.
Starting point is 01:06:41 He's like, I forget how good you all look, which means he used to be a beautiful man. And he's been running this body like a fucking rental car. You know what I mean? Just like he knows until the tires fall off. I mean, I'm sorry. I would be doing the same exact fucking thing. I am doing the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Yeah, and you also fell from grace. I was the most beautiful angel But like two club sandwiches And a pack of fucking pancakes That is a hell of a fucking meal Yes the diner order is crazy They go out for food This is after he has been like
Starting point is 01:07:16 By the way angel Nice pick there She's hot little flat chested for my tastes though But hey all you need is a handful Sick I was that in this movie It is pretty wild But it's also like
Starting point is 01:07:32 But it is funny because he does say like, ah, yeah, it's me, Carl Messenger, whatever his name is. It's, yeah, I'm a glutton, which is we get that. Hell yeah. When he says hedonist, hell yeah. That means, oh, yeah, for a while there. Before I met Demetish, I was going through him two by two, three by four. And whatever I get my hands on, man, I spent a week back in 76,
Starting point is 01:07:55 total dedicated chicken fucker. Couldn't even believe it. You know all the rules the old man has, I broke them all. I mean, hell, Teresa was fine with it. I went cruising right after we met, and she was absolutely fine with it. I just do it as much as I can. You know, I'm surprised in the other motion picture,
Starting point is 01:08:12 8mm, you didn't see one of my films that I made. They used to call me a machine in the old days. Oh, shit. And then we handed it down. It's like Batman. There's a new machine. No, I was close friends with Dirk Diggler, and I'll tell you, that thing is real.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I'm not kidding you. That thing, you go look at it. It could kill you. if it fucking got hard in front of you. Yeah, I was his guardian angel that night. He got beat up into Burger King Parking a lot jerking off from the front of that guy's flatbed truck. Saw it coming a mile away.
Starting point is 01:08:42 He didn't listen. That's his problem. Put my angelic hand on his cock. It's wonderful. It's massive. That's what I was prevent. I was preventing him from getting hard, but then that just made the other fella angrier.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I was trying to defuse the situation. What does he say here to? He's like former celestial body, recent addition to the human race. And Nichols Cage is like, what the fuck are you talking about? Who are you? And yeah, he's eating in these. A lot of, a lot of fruit and whipped cream on these pancakes. Really stuffed pancakes.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Oh, yeah. Big time on the pancakes. He got that club sando just sitting there. And then he's asking, what's the situation with these French toast you got there? Yes, he's ordering more. There was another plate too, right? there was a third plate, I think. There's another club sandwich.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I think there's two club sandwiches. Because I guess he feels either emboldened because he's like, ah, you're here for me, but I ain't ready to go yet. He's like, I'm not here for you. I'm trying to fuck this doctor. And like, I guess he's emboldened by that so that if, oh, the old man ain't looking for me, I could do whatever I want. Double cheeseburger for me right after major heart surgery.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Well, because it's a thing where he, like, he knows that he has a specific time that he's going to die. Back at the hospital, Cage tells him, like, yeah, no, you're not dying right now. So he knows, like, I can fucking run this shit till the wheels fall off, baby, because I ain't dying this week. That's a plus and minus. Like, it is kind of, it's funny that he does know that. And that it's exact like that. It's not like Clyde Bruckerman where it's just like, no, I feel it in the air.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah. No, no, no. It's just here is this day. Until then, I'm adding bacon to everything. Add the fucking bacon to the pancakes. Add the bacon to the fucking salad. I don't care. But he tells him, you know, his whole deal.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And, you know, yeah, when you do this big fall, you make the jump, and then you wake up. And you're a little sore and you're starving because you've never eaten before. This is a good line, too. You know, they gave the greatest gift to these bozos. You didn't think they gave it to us, too? It's free will. Two of the greatest gifts that God gave to these guys. One is free will.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Of course, the other one's Wendy's. You ever have Wendy's? It was nothing until they got that spicy chicken. Oh my, oh my God. When they got this spicy chicken, you just, you park me there. Get me a bed and a nightside table and I will stay in Wendy's for spicy chicken sandwiches. It did change the game. It did.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah, a few years from now they're going to invent something called the Baconator. You better believe I'm sticking around on this rock long enough for that at least. To a damn for breakfast. I looked at God's big book and I found out the baconator. was coming in 2001. Some other bad stuff. But the Baconator's coming. I'm sticking around.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I don't care about that. Put some money on the Baconator. Yeah, you're right, Steve. Where were the fucking angels on that faithful day, by the way? 2007 was the Baconator. Just checked. And I just checked 90s. It was 95 spicy chicken sandwich and then 96.
Starting point is 01:11:55 It became permanent, I think. Oh, so it's kind of like an arch deluxe deal. It's just right there. there's an interesting thing right here where it's actually a fascinating question right Kage is like how many of you are there like how many of us have done this transformation and he's like yeah more than you think
Starting point is 01:12:14 but it's kind of weird when we recognize one another in the street so we just got to walk on by that's all you got to do is walk on by because it's fucking weird talking about heaven with somebody I just hey remember the old stuff you remember the old days remember Lucifer we used to call him Lou is nice nicest guy could ever could be called him
Starting point is 01:12:32 Lou. But what a little cookie in the head there. I called him the son of the morning, but I don't want to get into nepotism talk. But Franz says that basically, like, you can't tell human beings the truth about what you are because they just do not have the emotional maturity
Starting point is 01:12:50 or whatever to grasp what you're saying to them, and they inevitably will not believe you. And then this is where they go. He's like, hey, you fucking weirdos do that thing down at the beach there, sunrise and sunset, you all fucking congregate down there? And Cage is like, yeah, we do. And he's like, oh, let's go, let's go see it. And then, yeah, this is the moment where it's like, they're all like clearly vibing on something. And Cage is like,
Starting point is 01:13:14 can you still hear it? And he's like, nah, it's all gone. Guess I'll just show my ass and go swimming instead. Cowabunga, dude. Oh, you could hear God's earthly, you could see, hear God's celestial voice through the sunset, but you ever hear, feel sand on your taint? You haven't, had you? I'm about to. Have you ever heard, have you ever felt your intestines work through two club sandwiches and a pancake? I have, and boy, howdy. Have you ever dove into a public beach with a gaping heart wound from an open heart surgery that happened not four days ago? Like, he doesn't even have any bandages. Salt up my wound, Mother Earth. Let's go. Actually, one of the things they don't tell you as you turn into Wolverine
Starting point is 01:13:58 when you come down here. I need you to do that angel hand on my fanny there to keep the diarrhea out of this. Okay, last time. I mean, if you could just get me in an emotium, that would be easier. But if you're going to do a hand thing, do a
Starting point is 01:14:14 hand thing. All right, this is the last time we will play Angel Fanny, all right? Just until I get back to the bedpan. But the one, and again, look at the artlessness of this movie, there's this great moment when you know, Bruno Gons meets Peter Falk,
Starting point is 01:14:28 Peter Falk's amazing in that movie and Dennis Fond's very good in this. But because he is doing the thing like, oh, I love, don't you love a cup of coffee? You love the cool touch of this and this and that. But then he also takes a little notebook. He's like, I could draw her here. I could, you see this?
Starting point is 01:14:42 I make a big line. Then I make a small line. And I could do that. And like, that is so much more interesting than like, I think at some point he's like, yeah, this is my daughter, my, her dumb boyfriend and my beautiful grandchildren,
Starting point is 01:14:55 because that's what are we doing. in America. We just populate and populate. That's the thing. It's got nothing to do about when you have all this time now you can experience art on an emotional level. You can be creative. You can use your mind in a way you never let. Nope. Just fucking fucking and
Starting point is 01:15:09 paying bills and having a fucking barbecue outside every Saturday. Eating and having kids. It's America. That's the thing. Ruth, the daughter, must have some kind of power or something. If you're half angel. Great point. Come on. I would
Starting point is 01:15:25 think I like that he's like her stupid husband Frank. I fucking hate this guy. Can you believe it? I'm an angel. I got a demon for a fucking son-in-law. Can you imagine that shit? But then he says, hey, you know what fucking sucks working for a living?
Starting point is 01:15:40 You know what I mean? Like, it's just like... Exactly. They got a thing down here called a nine to five. You got to do it fucking five days out of the seven they got in a week. Isn't it so weird? You spend most of your time working for some asshole that's taking half your money and then the government takes the rest of it.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Can you believe it? But there is the baconator, which is coming. You're right, man. That's the American way. Fast food, raising a family and fucking skinny dipping. That's all that matters and going to work. No, no, no. I couldn't go see the sunrise.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Of course, I'd be fired. If I went to the beach to see a sunrise in the morning, I'd be fired that day. Oh, and by the way, that surgery that I'm poo-pooing is going to cripple my entire family. That's fun. 30 grand. Have fun with that. I got to say, too.
Starting point is 01:16:25 When you see that, so the two of them like go out, because Meg Ryan does have a line to him about like, your body surfing days are over. Yeah. And he's like, oh, yeah, watch this. And like they go out and you see them both body surfing back in. The Dennis Franz body double is clearly wearing boxer shorts. I don't think so. I need to see that fucking mushroom cap in all its glory. At least an ass.
Starting point is 01:16:47 More ass if you need to. Or the, yeah, the butt cheek. Show it from the top. Show his ass. whatever. Dennis Franz, I mean, you do see his ass very famously showed his ass on NYPD Blue. Guy was not ashamed to what God gave him. Good man. Nope.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Dude did not care that he looks like Danny DeVito's penguin from behind. Oh, why would you? He looks beautiful. He does. But so basically Cassiel sort of encourages Cage's character, Seth, to take the plunge. He's like, hey man,
Starting point is 01:17:16 you know, what are you waiting for? When you wake up, you're just, all right. Yeah, what are you waiting for? Eric you had said this movie should be a half hour shorter. It absolutely should be. Because like this is the downtime when like Cage finds out what he needs to do. And he's not even like really grappling with it. He's just faps around for a while until he finally does it.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Because we basically have a whole other meat cute scene where he fucking stalks her to the park. And he's like, your dog told me that he's pretty happy. But you don't sleep enough. And he worries about you. And I was like, no, you already did the whole alien thing. Just jump off the bill. I'm the homeless guy you meet in libraries and in the park. And by the way, your dog's talking to me.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Your dog says, you need more sleep and you should smile more, baby girl. The dog says he has to go piss on the other dog's piss. He's just, he's all about getting over on somebody. He's a, oh, no, no, he has to shit now. Yeah, he has to shit now. Oh, Earl, stop. Earl, no. Really bad Meg Ryan line right here where she's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Are you married homeless or even worse a drummer? Oh, hilarious. I was expecting, are you married homeless or gay? Bair, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Yeah. Yes, right, yeah. But his answer to that is like, I don't want to hurt you. Yeah, strange.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Unless you need me, unless you make a mistake, the choice is yours. He's, he saw, he's jigsaw. Then they just kiss, right? Like he kisses her and she's like, did you feel anything? And he's like, oh. And then she just runs away. I mean, of course he can't feel anything. Do you love your boyfriend?
Starting point is 01:19:01 Well, that's a complicated thing. I mean, no. The answer is no. I don't know. Oh, he does throw that in the conversation too. You're right. So if he can kiss, I guess he can go downtown too, but he just wouldn't feel anything. Oh.
Starting point is 01:19:11 No. Right. Hello. But that's the thing. I don't think he knows about the option to go down. He doesn't. Clearly he does. not. Whenever you're asking of like,
Starting point is 01:19:22 does he know, he doesn't. He doesn't have that in his fucking brain. What he watches the gooner, he doesn't learn these things. Exactly. No, but that's not like a state that there's many other people doing many other things. So he doesn't think like, well, that's what all of them do. I guess that's fair. We did have a quick scene, right?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Where Meg Ryan and Dr. boyfriend and he wants to like fly up to Lake Tahoe. Oh, yeah. There's a first scene where he tries to like plant that seed. She's like, why are my fucking bags packed and he's like because we're going to Lake Top.
Starting point is 01:19:53 I love that. To your house by the way. It's her. Her uncle's house. Yes. But even still, he's like, I want to use it. It's kind of awesome when we go there and like I get to like hang out and let that bathtub. Pretend it's mine. It does look pretty sweet. I think that's that's what he's trying to get this fucking marriage
Starting point is 01:20:10 proposal for. Because then he gets some ownership over that beach over that fucking lake house. Now you got some real real estate. It's true. It's be funny. If he just starts like you get more confiore and he's just like you know the Olympics were there once and uh hell of the fucking game they have it he just starts getting to history because he's ready to be the fucking guy who runs like Tahoe I could be mayor let's just move there why not I mean
Starting point is 01:20:38 it's a gorgeous house this fucking house is you know that's where uh fredo corleone was assassinated it was uh but so with Dennis Franz has this uh hey I beat surgery party and everyone goes over to the house and this is like the isn't this heaven it look at this isn't this heaven i'm living in that weird super industrial section of los angeles that doesn't get featured in movies too often but here it is well i wouldn't really know you would be the one to know about heaven here dennis do you remember you got any recollection here of what is this what it looked like it's not bad got to tell you this is where like dennis franz realizes like that that cage has set up like no story
Starting point is 01:21:20 all or whatever and he's like oh yeah my friend here when he says up he's from up he means he's from Canada you see yeah I think that that covered it yeah okay good yeah yeah you said you're from Tahoe that's up there yeah he's from Tahoe as well but the little kids can see right through it the little girls like playing with him or whatever and she's like you're just like grandpa celestial being that fell to earth take the Polaroid picture yeah yeah and then it's just a big light blur where he was supposed to be that's right yeah a little lens flare i was hoping to be like invisible like he's like a vampire he's not a vampire so so weird he took a picture of set and when i looked at it i saw my own death
Starting point is 01:22:02 i think that's so odd yeah also really odd part of this movie is uh dennis franz shown eating vegetables uh well nice i mean he has to at some point after the fucking heart surgery and you you know you understand he does the smartest thing that a fat man can He picks the vegetable that goes with butter the best. Exactly. So it goes for corn. He's got a bunch of corn. Corn is just a butter conduit.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Corn on the cob is also a really good walking vegetable. He can still be the party animal of his little backyard BBQ, but I got a little snack with me at all that. I'll eat corn in front of this flat chested doctor to get her off my back. Then afterwards his sausage time. Right. He's buttering up sausage and eating it like corn on the cob. Gung, gung.
Starting point is 01:22:50 You got some ribs. I got secret ribs in the house if you need some. Secret ribs. I've been hiding them in the back of the toilet tank. Those are just grandpa's ribs there, you see. Don't worry, it's not a problem. I used to be an angel so I could do this. So, like, it's kind of weird because it's like,
Starting point is 01:23:15 they have this whole scene. Meg Ryan is also at this party. there's like we said there's corn on the cob we're grilling the whole thing I know the very next scene as we go back to her house and we're making more food this is when we make that salad it's like a midnight salad like they've been at the party you know what I mean yeah I need a line that's just like oh yeah that food was disgusting like they're getting veggie so I was thinking like oh god I'm a doctor like I need some vegetables so let's have a little salad you know so I mean hey in Europe they have it as
Starting point is 01:23:46 dessert. So this is when this movie turns into Superman 2 for four minutes where basically like he accidentally cuts his hand and it doesn't, she doesn't see it. It goes through. He does that first and then she's, then she starts stabbing this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah, dude the fuck, she's going at him with this knife. Well, now I see why her patients keep dying. It's not even like a quick like, I'm gonna, oh, I think this guy might be an angel what with the picture and all this stuff. and she's asking of like pointed questions too like where were your parents from but whatever the fuck she's asking
Starting point is 01:24:19 a quick prick would suffice she goes down the hand with a butcher knife yeah she's like well what's your last name oh plates you might as well as said lettuce dude which is a lie which he cannot do sorry you told me
Starting point is 01:24:37 he can't do it so he can't do it yeah it should be like ah angel but that's a way like it's a it's a not not lie because he doesn't have a... Yeah, he's still lying. Yeah, he's lying. Never mind, he's lying.
Starting point is 01:24:51 But she finds out, yes, of course, he's not bleeding because she fucking just opened up his whole fucking carotic artery there. I didn't feel it the way a human does. He says to her. I do like, she's got one line that's like,
Starting point is 01:25:05 you freak, you liar. Yeah. What are you? I was there to take Mr. Balford, but I couldn't take my eyes off you instead. That's romantic. And listen to that. He died for me. Here's the question is
Starting point is 01:25:21 can Kage as an angel visit heaven? So could he like, you know, if she died, you know, could he just go and date her in heaven? That's great. I don't think so. We don't see it. Gated community.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I think when you're up in heaven, you are a pearly gated community. You're like, the light. Like, I think once you get up there, like down here, you are the person because if you do want to be seen, you need to look noisy, you need to look like a person. I think up there, they're all like the light thing that you see in the camera. But still like a purgatory ghost, perhaps you could date. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:25:57 That's not bad. That would work. Dating myself a girl down in purgatory right now. It's pretty cool. She's kind of wild. She killed herself. It was a sin, but, you know, they didn't send her downstairs for it. It's kind of great, though, man, because she's always home.
Starting point is 01:26:11 When I want to call her, she's always there. Yeah, she's damned to that apartment still. It's like she never leaves. But yeah, you know, just the freak out here, you know, she's like, I can't even conceive of what you're fucking talking about. And she tells him to get out. And he does a famous angel disappearing thing right here. And before in the movie, when he's done this,
Starting point is 01:26:34 it's been like at the library or other places where you could conceivably be like, oh, he just like fucked off through a door really quickly. Like at the hospital, like, oh, maybe he got on the elevator and I just missed it. this is this dude two feet away from her in a kitchen and then all of a sudden he's not there and her reaction is not what it should like if someone just vanished before your eyes it would be more than like a heavy sigh you know right
Starting point is 01:26:56 now we have our sad moment all hope is lost better smoke cigarettes and and she'll have a sad lunch at the grocery store by herself yeah this yeah this is where cage is smoking next to I guess supposedly Michael Mann I'd have to go back and look at the game tape for that. It really didn't. I know about that.
Starting point is 01:27:17 And he's not, unlike some other people that are uncredited here at the ass end of IMDB, I'm not seeing any Michael Mann. You even get the Elizabeth Shoe credit. I was trying to see, like, is there a common producer or cinematographer? And I couldn't find him. Weird. But maybe I missed it. Very strange.
Starting point is 01:27:38 But, dude, in this montage, by the way, you see her distracted again. doing surgery. Just, you know, leaving at the door. She's like fucking wrist deep in somebody and like staring into space and they have to be like,
Starting point is 01:27:50 uh, Dr. Rice. And she's like, oh, oh, right, my fucking life or death job I have. Sorry, I'm usually,
Starting point is 01:27:55 uh, wrist deep in myself. Not today. Uh, but yeah, there's like a, a storms coming in at one where it turns out like
Starting point is 01:28:09 a dark and stormy night and like, she's taking her fucking robe off at home. Like, she's still got like a tank top on. And he's just back in this house, but in invisible mode, by the way. Not cool, dude. And by the way, this is when Sarah McLaughlin starts playing. And I had the muscle memory of just reaching for my remote control. I got to change a channel. I'm not watching these dogs in the cages. I can't. Because it is specifically Sarah McLaughlin's angel, by the way. You don't, you don't react that way to any Sarah McLaughlin.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Kind of sort of. Suddenly she just puts Earl in a cage. for just a dollar a day, Earl can get out. Oh, man. Yeah, it was really something with that fucking tune in there. But so, like, and then she knows that he's there. And it's like, could you just hold me so I could go to sleep and just stay? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:00 We're kind of angel dry humping now. This is, this means we're dating. FYI, this is dating. By the way, apologies for the angel boner. it might go through you I'm looking through you So she wakes up He's gone
Starting point is 01:29:20 But wouldn't you know when she looks at the clock Oh shit She has slept until 724 a.m. Not this waking up till 3 o'clock Or waking up at 3 o'clock So she's like, oh thank you, Angel I slept through the night. Yay!
Starting point is 01:29:32 Finally. Got what, four hours to sleep? Yeah, just just four hours. And then this is she- Claren't I want to live again And I want to fuck you too. Oh, you're so hot, Clarence. Clarence, I also magically know what's wrong with that crying baby back at the hospital.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Let's go. Clarence, are you hung? I am true. Yay. Clarence on 69, yeah. Take the plunge, Clarence. Dude, then you got inside Lewin Davis lady being like, how did you fucking know what was wrong with this baby? And she's like, I just knew.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Okay. I guess they needed one more scene of, A. E. E. Eurek. Everybody loves a Eurekus seen in a Hollywood movie. whether it's warranted or not. Yeah, whether you remember what the fuck
Starting point is 01:30:13 was going on with the character that's getting eurekified in the first place. And then secondly, I guess it's like, we could show her being good at her job because she's been so bad at it.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Sure. Yeah, I guess that's fair. By the way, I quickly, I found a Brad Sibberling and Michael Mann connection in 2009. The DGA had both of them
Starting point is 01:30:32 collaborate on upgrading the theaters. So maybe, you know, the DGA screening room in L.A. in New York. So maybe they know each other through the director's guild. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yeah, they might be just buds. Yeah. But so Maggie, we cut to her sort of alone in the locker room at the hospital. This is some more barefootery going on. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:30:51 barefoot in a fucking hospital locker room. I don't know. But this is, dude, Colum Fiore comes in and like, dude, if you ever want like photographic evidence
Starting point is 01:31:03 of the fucking wrong idea at the wrong place at the wrong time, it's this dude in this hospital locker room like, so what do you say? Marry me or what? It's quite clear that they don't have a super committed relationship to even begin with. It's like comes over sometimes.
Starting point is 01:31:20 They go to Tahoe sometimes. How about like, let's give this a real shot? Like just start there. Moving together. Yeah. It's like coveting that you didn't get to go to Tahoe last week. And so you're saying, will you marry me? We can finally go to Tahoe.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Right. What do you say? Then I can use that Tahoe house whatever I want. I can just get the keys out of our house. can't say shit about it. What do you want? You want me to get down on my knees? You want me to, what do you want me to say? We belong together. We're the same species. I'm not, I'm sorry, I'm not an angel. Dude, she goes, he goes to her, please be my wife. Just, just think about it. And he walks out of his locker room. No, sir. No, that's not going to work. It is kind of weird
Starting point is 01:32:00 that Colm Pure looks so much like Neil, Nicholas Cage in this movie. They kind of have a similar haircut. She got a type. She got a type. She probably should have given George, going, me a try then. Nice and close cut. But there's a scene where like Maggie goes to check on Dennis Franz and he's like, put your dang stethoscope away. I'm fucking fine
Starting point is 01:32:21 already, will you? And she's like, what is up with this Seth guy, by the way? And he's basically now just like, all right, here's the deal. Promise you're not going to flip out. All right, look, he's an angel. I used to be an angel.
Starting point is 01:32:37 He can give up eternity. Just for you. I know, because I also did it. Let me let you in on the secret of all secrets. Do you want to know how the world was made? What are we talking about? How much time you got? Do me a favor and just keep on touching my chest, though.
Starting point is 01:32:53 That's feeling real good. My bare chest needs some touching. Teresa doesn't do it no more. Yeah, did you know that dinosaurs didn't exist? We just put those bones down there to fuck with you. That was my initial job, making dino bones. I was like, let's see how fucking. weird this one could be.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Oh, they won't buy this, but then they did. I'm going to tell you the moon landing, not even Stanley Kubrick had anything to do with that. That was all us. He also says earlier in the movie that he has not even told his own wife that he's an angel. Like, why would I put her through that? This flat-chested doctor, though, get ready to have your head blown up. Yeah, totally. So she like goes back to the library to try to find him or whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And this is, she does a little prayer here, right? like, oh God, help me through this. And, like, all these angels are like, well, you've come to the right place. God is here at the local library. Cockroaches crawling all over. Yeah. And, like, in a really annoying turn here, because it really doesn't last that long. And this movie is just about two hours.
Starting point is 01:33:58 She's like, this is where she does the, you know, get out of here. Nobody wants you anymore. She's just like, I just want to say goodbye. I don't want to see you ever again. that kind of a deal. I'm marrying the other guy or whatever. I'm going to marry column for your. And dudes, she's like says her piece and she's
Starting point is 01:34:16 walking out of this fucking library and all of these angels are perched up on ledges watching her exit the premises like it's the end of the birds. Yes. She's just like tiptoeing around all these angels. Pardon me. Oh, I didn't mean to hurt your friend's feelings. Whoops.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Their favorite show is ending. You know, they had a good show going on with Nick Garrett's and Aggie. It's fair. It's very true. It was looking good and then now, fuck it. She's going with Comfior, who's going to become the mayor of Tahoe? But so, this sends him up the construction tower and he decides to do the deed, jumps off this tower here. And when he's climbing it, did anyone else?
Starting point is 01:34:53 I think it's, the IMDB says it is the Hail Mary and the Our Father being said in Polish. My ear just, as he's climbing this tower or whatever, I just heard inch, inch, assa. There's like quiet chanting. underneath the track here? Very weird. Oh, yeah, Bain was also an angel, but he went the other way. You know, sometimes you do it for pure evil reasons, you know.
Starting point is 01:35:18 You don't want to see under that mask. Let me tell you something. That thing is grotesque. Oh, the first time I fell to Earth, I had all the pancakes the Waffle House would make me. It looks like a fajita platter under there. It's not good. It's just all a mess.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Oh, yes, I was going to do a Colombo reboot, but I couldn't. So that I became evil. When he's doing this dive though and it's like I guess pseudo life passing before his eyes, you bet your ass he thinks back to that bathtub scene. Oh yeah, that's number one.
Starting point is 01:35:53 This is a clip of that fucking foot up and get on the top. Which is, it's in black and white to let you know, which, because it comes into play in a second when he's like, color. And I'm like, what? Because I was confused by that. Because in Wings of Desire, the Angels are always in black and white. and the movie's in black and white
Starting point is 01:36:09 until he falls and then it's color, it's kind of a cool thing. Oh, it's like an actual artistic thing that's fucking thought about and not just thrown in at the last second time. Yeah, yeah, you're right. What if we sort of said it, but not really? Exactly. Just do it or don't. You didn't do it in the movie, so it confused
Starting point is 01:36:25 me. Well, I mean, this is even more like a dog then. I mean, you should make a little bit more fuzzy, too. Like, just you can't really make everything out. That'd be fun. And it's so dumb, because it's like at this point, why are we even bothering to acknowledge the artistic style of Vim Vendos in any way? Like, I would argue the vast majority of people that went to see this movie on opening weekend were not aware of the existence of Wings of Desire.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Probably not. Not saying everybody, I'm sure people were, you know, out there that was aware that it was a remake. But, like, I'm sure the vast majority of Cage people and Meg Ryan date night people did not give a shit and were just like kind of confused by that choice. I'm just, this happens. and we've got like 30 minutes left. We certainly do. And I'm like, whatever you wanted to do with this, like already you can tell like you've fucked me.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Like the good, what would have been good about this movie is them together learning stuff with him and seeing his reactions and actually having fun with that idea. But you know that's not going to happen because I got 30 fucking minutes with this guy. We need time for him to behave like a baby, fall on the ground and realize he cut his hand.
Starting point is 01:37:33 And there's a boo boo there. And these construction workers have. to tell him that, oh, is it red, then it's blood? Oh. The one guy who is like first telling him like, oh, hey, wake up, man, or whatever. I didn't notice this. I looked
Starting point is 01:37:48 it up, but it's crazy now thinking back in the scene. It's William Stanford Davis who, you guys, I don't think, care or watch it, but he's the very funny character, Mr. Johnson, on Abbott Elementary. Oh, okay. The janitor character. But then also, like, there's some fucking
Starting point is 01:38:06 line about like he's like oh can you see me is this blood and then you just hear a guy go is it red that is a fucking baby 1998 Nick Offerman that's crazy it is really wild and there's no there's just like no
Starting point is 01:38:22 facial hair to be found really wild look that's before he fell to earth unfortunately that's exactly his mustache so now that Nick Cage is a human he starts dancing through the streets like Roberto Benini this is what he finally starts to cage out a little bit
Starting point is 01:38:40 because it's been so internal and oh oh oh and I was like yeah I'm dancing and I'm singing songs and like doing that shit now they're like the audience is like oh now I understand why you started the presentation with that Michigan J. Frog fucking cartoon because now he's Michigan J. Frogging down the street he realized he doesn't know Chinese anymore that's a bummer he's got no bus fare he's got a hitchhike and then a car pulls up he puts his face in the window and says
Starting point is 01:39:06 hello and is punched in the face and mugged. He has no money, so they take his boots. And I've got a question about the boots. Sure. Made in heaven. Is that what it says on the side? Yeah. Shouldn't he lose his clothes?
Starting point is 01:39:21 Yeah, it would make more sense if he is naked or in Wings of the Desire. The way that Bruno Gons gets money and Peter Falk kind of razzes him about it because he sells his armor at a pawn shop. He takes it like, you know, he gets like 200 marks. I sold, it's kind of this great line I sold my armor, you got robbed, it's okay, it happens. It's just this great phenomenal. I sold my armor, 1952, New York Street, 44th Street.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I got $500 for that. And it's like this great thing. But that's cool and that's kind of an interesting idea. It's something. Yes, it is, yeah. Between realizing he no longer speaks every language on the planet and the getting mugged and punching the face, he does go to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Right. And this is where Anne, the pediatric lady, like treats his wounds or whatever. And then this is where she's like, oh, yeah, her uncle's got a cab in Lake Tahoe on the Nevada side. And he like bolts out of there or whatever. Yes. And now it's just this like road trip thing that takes a lot of time off the clock of like him. He could be like learning what fucking, he could be eating pancakes that are supposed to be so good. He really could.
Starting point is 01:40:31 We should see him indulgent food just to like get that cage moment. moment, which doesn't happen. The oysters! My God, the oysters. Come on. Really quickly, when he gets mugged or whatever, and they take his boots and they all drive off and he's just left, and a shot of cage and he's like face down on the ground or whatever,
Starting point is 01:40:47 it starts raining. But at the start of this, I thought, like, a dog was pissing on him. The homeless guy was having his way with him. It's like, oh, I got mugged and they stole my boots. And now I'm getting fucking pissed on. Maybe the guys who robbed him came back just to give him one last fucking humiliation to piss on his fucking face. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:41:06 And he's trying to hitchhike here, and it's not going well. It's front of a, you know, Earth is so ugly. He's from like a nudie booth kind of place. It's like nude girls going on in the background. And there's this guy, like this guy pulls up. It's a great, like the window rolls down. And I feel like this is a Simpsons thing. The window rolls down and it's a pig.
Starting point is 01:41:28 And then when Homer's hitchhiking and then it's the guy. Can't trust a pig around watermelon, you know. I just, because like the truck pulls up and the window. rolls down and then this cute basset hound like sticks his little face out and I was like oh that's kind of familiar old Zeke rides up here with me yeah exactly and then so we've got it's a little bit of a who's on first gag here because he's like I'm going to Tahoe and then the guy's like okay I'm going to Reno and he's like Tahoe Reno uh huh tallho I was like get going with this movie uh and you notice but he's like this really nice guy that takes ah just come in we'll figure it out yeah why
Starting point is 01:42:05 is that happening because Casiel is there weirdly doing whatever angel magic. Yes, I'm just behind the scenes doing my angel puppet master. Meanwhile, someone's like, put that knife down, Harry! Please God! Where is my guardian angel
Starting point is 01:42:21 to save me from my murderous husband? This domestic violence thing is... Oh, no! Now you've got to help this guy find his true love. All those years go in a choich for nothing. I had to find a truck. But so he finally shows up at the house because he gets dropped off.
Starting point is 01:42:42 He sees a phone. So I guess he can read, by the way, because this is how he gets the address. He looks at the phone book. We get the Goo Goo Goo Dolls here, right? This is the Googood. The Googoo Dolls come on right here, yes. But yeah, so it's like this is all garbage, right? Because we've sort of already established that he can't read.
Starting point is 01:43:00 So he's reading the phone book. But also, we're told already the woman at the fucking hospital. said it's her uncle's cabin. The odds that it's the same name are he's able to decipher that it's no thank you. It's ridiculous. Also, like, I want to see him peeve for the first time. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Oh, this is amazing. I can now feel what you call diarrhea. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's happening after that righteous piss I just had? Welcome to the party, pal. You had your first turtle head, huh? Yeah, I didn't want to spoil things for you, but the majesty you'd take it as shit is wild.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Oh, you're supposed to go in the bowl. Oh, you're not, just let it roll down. Oh, okay. Ordinarily, but it does happen. Yeah. Oh, I thought I just went in that one that was hanging off the wall. Isn't this having the toilet? And if Dennis Franz is, like, because again, like, Peter Falk is not that involved in Brunegon's, you know, transformation.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Dennis Franz is, he should be like, listen, buddy, any tat, when you're, about to do it. Come, tell me where you're going to be. I'll be there with the coat and some money and a car keys for you. Yep. Exactly. I got like two grand in the bank for angel emergencies. Just for you, pal. Pick them up at the airport, you know. You got to get ready for them. Come on now. Look, just because I had to fall from heaven with nothing doesn't mean I want fellow fallen angels to do the same, all right? I didn't listen. I had to suck dick for money for three years. It was kind of fun, by the way. I didn't know that that's what people did. It's kind of awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:36 But you shouldn't have to do that unless you want to. That's how I met old Teresa. I handled her first husband. He was a hell of a guy. Had enough for getting nights beat up in Burger King parking lots, if you know what I mean. Yeah, she bursted into the motel. We locked eyes and we just fell in love right there. I swallowed him.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Then we fell in love. Old Simon. Yeah, he was a hell of a guy. He bought me dinner afterwards. Old seaman. Oh, no, Simon. Yeah, that wasn't. Simon. Yes, that's a sorry. Nice to meet you, Teresa. You know, I would like to buy you some cotton candy and take you to the fair.
Starting point is 01:45:20 And I don't want the world to see me. Gulp. Oh, man. So, yeah, she's like bandaging him up and whatnot because he's still bleeding and beat to shit and everything. Colmfior was right though this fucking sick Tahoe House I would be like So maybe this weekend Tahoe House on
Starting point is 01:45:41 Let's go That's why I feel like honestly Colum Fuhr like You gotta be better with that proposal Dude you really got to think about things here You want to make sure you seal that deal Not like you want to get married or something Dude she looks like Meg Ryan
Starting point is 01:45:54 And has this fucking Tahoe house And has a pretty cool dog You should have fucking wiped this shit up years ago And that double doctor income Oh dude absolutely uh so they have sex for the first time in front of this fire and it's really weird like do you feel that oh dude and that and like tell me how to describe it to me whoa yeah like tell me what it feels like to get jerked off here in this moment and then you see right and then it moves it moves
Starting point is 01:46:23 over to the other situation because she readjusted and you're like okay now after this readjustment this is intercourse and she's like I want you to tell me what you feel right now and he's like it warm, aching, and she like fucking sits on it. And then she's like, it's okay, it's okay. We fit together, see? And I was like, oh my God. Oh, thank you. Is this what happened in big as well?
Starting point is 01:46:48 See, we fit together. He should forest gum pit right here. Oh, fuck, because I mean, he's got no idea what's going on over here. You're totally right. How is this not a two pump chump situation? This would be like his first or second direction ever. Yeah. We were made to fit together.
Starting point is 01:47:03 So, I mean, wet puzzle pieces. The sex is done. He's laying around in the morning spring, perfume in his face. Yes. We get some Encino man in the shower, which I always appreciate. We almost.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I thought he's going to drink it. I really did. Oh, that would be very funny. He's got some, he's got his flopping dick all over in the shower too. My God. Dude, definitely cage penis alert here. Lovely.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I recorded my TV and I was going back and forth trying to see if I could make it all. out, not quite, but it is, it looks pretty good. There's something there. Yeah. It's that Coppola energy, dude. Big Copeland energy. But she's like making him the perfect angel breakfast anyone's ever made. And it looks great. She's like, hmm, not quite. And she has to go, you know, by the way, this, it's a candlelit grape breakfast. It's a grape breakfast. She's, she's hand, like hand mixing a fruit.
Starting point is 01:48:03 salad right? Really? A lot of fruit. I saw big old, two big old bowls of grapes. There's two big things of grapes, which you did not put into the fruit salad for some reason. But then you have the fruit salad where she does, nice note, squeezing the orange over the whole thing. Yeah, it's a little something there, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:22 You're fine. It's this first or second meal ever. You just have that, and then later maybe you both take the car out, you go for a nice lunch. Like, you know, a nice light breakfast, another blowbang possibly. Take, take Take the car out. Everybody's wearing seat belts, right?
Starting point is 01:48:37 Eyes on the road. A nice cup of coffee, too, by the way. Get that, again, you're cum drunk. You need a cup of coffee. Settle them nerves. Cup of coffee. Maybe even you try some co-brew if you want to. And then for lunch, yeah, you do, you got to go Wendy's.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Wendy's spicy chicken right there. We don't see what she gets at the general store or whatever. Oh, we certainly do. Because she spills it in the street after killing herself. What is it? And that's the thing that's crazy. It's a bag of pears, dude. That's what the fruit salad was missing.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Was the sandy pear? You should have drove. Oh, how a dramatic irony. But she's come drunk, she's feeling the wind in her hair, she's closing her eyes for long periods of time for no reason. Dude, she's doing the, she is doing a solo, a Titanic situation with her arms out like this. We don't, we don't see the impact.
Starting point is 01:49:30 I still don't really get how she does. We cut to the candle blowing out at the grape breakfast. And that's how he's like, oh, where is she? But like, if you drive head first, again, no helmet, bad situation into a logging truck. Like, I just feel like you're breaking your nose and maybe getting a concussion. She like went under the wheels or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:53 She got grind. She would look ground up. Yeah. A lot more blood, I think. She has to look like fucking, like, dead, you know? Like, half her body's missing. I just want her impaled on one of them. logs.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Yes. Final personation. Kins between like the truck and a tree or something. A little signs action too could work. Right. Precisely. Say goodbye before we back up the truck.
Starting point is 01:50:19 She falls apart. Yeah, I do. I gotta deliver these logs, you know, sorry. And you know what's crazy is like in moments like this for me, watching something like this, like this moment would get me. I'm enough of a sucker that moments like this normally get me.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Even if the rest of the movie hasn't worked, these moments, I, you know, I foolishly, like, translated into, like, what if that was me in my own life and I feel terrible. Sure. The chemistry, the two of them have in this movie, is so terrible. I felt nothing in this moment. She's like, you know, he says, like, do you know how much I love you? And she's asking, is this what happens? Is this what happens when you die? And, like, guys, nothing. I I was just sitting there. I was like, there's nothing here.
Starting point is 01:51:05 And as an audience member, you're, I mean, I'm sure, you know, tear jerker, people were crying, you're feeling ripped off.
Starting point is 01:51:11 You're like, well, that was fucking stupid. Like, it's been two hours and that's what happened. Okay. Real quick.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Yeah. I mean, anything, I, the whole point was to get me to the point where he gets to do his little baby shit. Like Eric said,
Starting point is 01:51:25 he fucking tries things for the first time. You'll fucking go swim in the ocean with her. Like, that's the whole fucking point. I misremember. I thought like, I had this thing where like she, like, they have a kid together and like, and like she has a cancer or something and then she does. No, it's not X-Files. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:51:46 I think actually, Steve, what you were just thinking about was how they ended the show, how I met your mother. Of course. It's all that bullshit. They get together. They have a couple kids. Then that that lady checks out. Number man. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:52:00 End of the titular mother. Not the end of the end of. this movie though, I'll tell you that much. 20 minutes left. The big romance is she, he is like, oh no, just stay with me. Don't look over there. Don't look at him. He's like, look at me. And then you need to see an angel. So we get out of here, Phil.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Get the fuck out of here, Phil. Bring in Amy Brennaman. Maybe she's the one who's here for this. That would be nice. I want to be in Tahoe. Oh, it's fucking Anderson. I fucking hate Anderson. Out of here, Anderson. We've got a rivalry for fucking millennia.
Starting point is 01:52:31 God, fucking free. the one that took Thomas Jefferson out from under me. For some reason. I wanted to be the one to march him to hell. A young Paul Giamatti as Anderson. Hell yeah. Oh, great. It's fucking Seth. Hey, asshole. Girlfriend's dead, huh? Gave it all up for this, huh? Pretty cool. How's it doing? Does fruit taste good, you idiot?
Starting point is 01:53:04 Oh, I'll see you in 100 years. Oh, I guess I won't. Maybe I'll piss on your grave. Come back this winter. We'll go skiing Tahoe for life. But I do. But she asks, she's like, if you want to ask what my favorite thing, it was you. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:53:22 It was all for Seth Plate. I did it all for Seth Plate. There is one part where she's like, and we can be Mr. and Mrs. Plate. And I was like, oh, good. So, you know what? Just for pissing me off 200 years ago, I'm taking her to hell. Oh, hell, yeah. I'm changing her paperwork.
Starting point is 01:53:41 She's supposed to go upstairs. She's going down. He messed up by not marrying her immediately. He's losing this Tahoe house. She's losing that apartment in L.A. He's losing everything. He's got no social security number. What is he going to do?
Starting point is 01:53:55 He starts squatting in her house. That's the only thing I can describe. He's just there living in that house. You're right. Because, I mean, they bury her. He's in his suit. at her funeral, which is like, okay, where'd you get that? Any of these questions, who's arranging this burial?
Starting point is 01:54:10 Like, what? And like, did they just like, oh, hey, fucking weird guy that was with my daughter? You could just live in her house now and here's some walking around money. Shouldn't we meet her parents here at the funeral or something? That'd be nice. Or that uncle. Yeah. Oh, and Seth, of course, here are the keys to the Tahoe House.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Rightfully are on the list now. Yes, the mysterious drifter that started dating her. The weekend she died, you know, in time, okay. Okay. Was he in the truck? Come on, you could tell me. I would be suspicious as all get out. But he's just sadly moping through the last like 18 minutes of this movie.
Starting point is 01:54:48 He goes, buys some more stupid fucking pears. He buys all the pairs, Steve. So this could not happen to anyone ever again. Pairs are what killed my girlfriend. But Cassiel is there for him, right? And he's like, am I being punished? and Cassiel's like, come on, you know, the, you know, the big guy, he's not, he's not doing that. And then this, my Catholic brain is like, yes he is.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Yes, he is. I'll tell you this, though, I felt nothing when she's fucking dying in the street horribly. I felt everything at this Andre Brower line of, you're living now. And one day, you'll be dying. And I was like, oh, God, it sucks that he's gone. Oh, I thought you better. It sucks to live as well. I just mean I miss Andre Brower.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Yes, that is well. He's great. It's also terrible to be in this body and live and die. Maybe your body, dude. I'm having a pretty good time over there. Well, it must be nice, guys. Must be regular circus over there. And basically Brower is like, hey, man, if you knew how this was going to like shake out,
Starting point is 01:55:52 which you've still done it. And he says, I'd rather have one kiss, one touch, one smell of her than an eternity without it. All right. Okay. And he's just eating this pair. He eats the pair and then takes a fucking big old swim at the end. Not even a naked one. Nope.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Jumps into that ocean, tries to body surf like Dennis Fron. I guess it's a real like I am, you want Paul Giumani. Oh, he's not even enjoying it. He's just putting on a show. He can't even hear the music. Look at him body surfing in jeans. What an idiot, right everybody? I already saw your dick, man.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Just go and do it. Throw off those pants. and let it fly. Boo this man. Boo! Come on, everybody. Boo with me. It is kind of insane, though,
Starting point is 01:56:40 because we do have one, before the movie ends, we do have one shot of he's back at Dennis Franz's house and they're kind of just sitting in the backyard, staring at each other. That's the scene. Like, Dennis Franz has to have a big honking fucking monologue here to bring this thing home,
Starting point is 01:56:57 and Cage just needs to sit there and listen to it. And that's a better way to end this movie than him swimming. Come on. Do you think all these angels are jealous of him swimming though? Because all the angels like go from watching the sunrise to like just watching him live it up in the ocean. I wouldn't be able to fucking that idiot.
Starting point is 01:57:15 What a, oh my God. I remember the fucking moron. Oh my God. She's dead. It's all for fucking pears and pancakes now. What a moron. Pears can't be that good, right? There's just no way. You also, I'm sorry, you got to pick a fucking more delectable fruit than a pear for this.
Starting point is 01:57:32 I would say pears are underrated. I like pairs, but like, yeah, to give up eternity for, maybe not. Yeah, maybe not, yeah. I don't think there is a fruit that I would give up every day. A really firm strawberry, I could do that. Really? Yeah, I'd do it. Yeah, I could do that.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Interesting. A tart blueberry, a bunch of tart blueberries. That would really do it for me. A good granny Smith apple, you know? Oh, yeah, very much. Yeah. I mean, again, I don't know about sacrificing eternity. just...
Starting point is 01:58:02 Randy Smith Apple tasted like you see. Very good. Oh my God, it tastes like green. Oh my God, color. Was I an angel this all time? Oh, man, but that is the end of City of Angels.
Starting point is 01:58:16 We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts and possible recommendations. Chris Cabin. Fuck this. Absolutely not. Garbage. Absolute fucking garbage. I just like, I get nothing from this movie. I try very hard and like
Starting point is 01:58:28 they've got people I like in it, but Dennis Franz is literally the only time. that I feel like a real heart beating in this movie. Like everything else is a big no. It's nice to see Andrey Brow, of course, he always peppers up anything, but everything else. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Eric Siska. It's also no for me. I think, Andrew, you hit the nail on the head earlier that they just don't, Meg Ryan and Nicholas Cage in this movie just don't have a lot of chemistry together. So I think that instantly kind of tanks the endeavor. And it's silly.
Starting point is 01:59:00 It is pretty silly. Steve Sadek, how are you feeling? Yeah, I kind of agree. It's a light no. I think it looks good at points. You know, Cage is trying to do something interesting. Ryan is pretty magnetic just in general. Andre Brower is very good.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Dennis Franz is fun. But the Hollywood mathifying of a great artistic film into whatever this is, you got to just for the remake rule of it all. It's just, it's a no. And, you know, and look, Peter Falk is great. Dennis Franz actually does his best. It's just not... It's not enough.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Yeah, no, I agree. It doesn't come together. It's not like... I will say this, especially because, you know, we're kind of ragging on the director's filmography. Like, I don't think it's that much of... It's not an incompetently directed movie.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Yeah. I think, if anything, like, the direction of Cage... I mean, is one... That's a separate conversation. But, like, they really, just... The two of them do not have chemistry at all. It's distractingly so when they eventually have to be, like, falling in love.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Like, it just doesn't work. But go watch Wings of Desire. Shit, go watch far away so close. It's underrated sequel that not many people know about. Just explore, honestly, explore the filmography of Vim vendors. You will have an absolute blast. Motherfucker has done narrative and documentary. Great filmmaker.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Absolutely great filmmaker. I'll watch Paris, Texas after those, too. Yes. Oh, yeah, great. Excellent. Excellent. Vim motion picture. But that is going to do it for this episode on City of Angels.
Starting point is 02:00:28 As always, if you want more We Hate Movies, check out the Patreon, y'all. Patreon.com slash we hate movies where you can get, yes, we hate movies episodes just like this. Absolutely 100% commercial free at all times, y'all. And we kicked off remake roll with a Patreon offering. Our We Love Movies episode that we do every month. That was about a remake, of course. Martin Scorsese's The Departed Remington City on Fire.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Or Infernal Affairs, excuse me, remake of Infernal Affairs. That was really great. Chris Cabin, we did a remake on Once in a Lifetime that dropped a couple weeks back. We didn't do. We did Bad C. 2018 from Master of Horror, Roblo. He's, uh, it's a hell of a fucking thing, man. McKenna Grace kind of wipes the floor with Roblo. She's only been in, uh, the, the business for, what, for like two years at this point versus Roblo's story many decades.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Sure. Yeah. Wipes away. A lot of fun in that episode. Uh, Steve Sadek. Last week, we had Melro 210 come out. What were we recap in there? We were talking about the girl from New York, a little. little Robia LaMarte episode of a 902 and a wild scene setting kind of Melrose place with some Tracy Lord smashing up my favorite character shooters. I'm very excited for the cult, the cult arc.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Yes, we're having a lot of fun on the cult. Richard or Martin. Martin. Martin Abbott. Martin. Martin. Yeah. And if you are listening to this on the day it comes out, which is the 21st of April.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Tune in tonight, by the way, y'all, for our top-tier Patreon supporters. We're going live on WHM After Dark, our monthly AMA-style chat show where we are vibing, imbibing, and answering your questions live on the air. That is right. That is available to folks on the Craven tier of our Patreon. And also this week, Steve Sadek, we have an animation damnation coming out, which is getting into the remake vibe. That's right. It is the reboot or remake of Duck Tales from a couple years ago with David Tenet, and Bobby Moynihan, Ben Schwartz, Danny Pouty.
Starting point is 02:02:34 I've never watched it. It's supposed to be really fun, so I can't wait. By the time it comes out, I'll have watched it. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I always thought it was a good time. I've not seen the whole thing, but, yeah, Beck Bennett as Launchpad McQuack. That's fun. Yeah, Kate McCutche does the little girl duck there.
Starting point is 02:02:53 I can't think of her name. Abigail. Abigail? Webigail, there it is. There it is. So that's a lot of fun. And we're going to close out this week, Eric Sisko, with a remade character on the Glee Plocery climate.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Yes. So in 2002 or one or whatever, they did, it was an entry describing Darth Sidious as his own character. And not exactly. They weren't trying to connect. I mean, everyone knew he was Emperor Palpatine, but they were acting like he wasn't.
Starting point is 02:03:23 So we're going to read the EU lore of yesteryear about Darth Sidious before Revenge of the Sith. came out. So that'll be a lot of fun. Absolutely. And then next week, y'all, we are dropping the Nexus, which is, of course, our Star Trek Recap show, back to the regularly scheduled programming on that. So an episode of
Starting point is 02:03:42 the original series, the animated series, and then TNG's Ensign Row, very classic season 5 episode. Very excited about that. And next week, also, folks, we're dropping, speaking of our top tier supporters, the next edition of Scarety Cats, our modern horror recap show, where we are talking all about the Pope's Exorcist.
Starting point is 02:03:57 That is a video show that you can get the audio of as a podcast as well. That was a lot of fun just finishing up the cut on that. It's very, very funny. We all thought fun movie. Speaking of next week, by the way, remake roll has one last bullet in the chambers, Steve Sadek. What are we doing?
Starting point is 02:04:17 We're ending with probably one of the worst of the bunch, probably the worst of this bunch, Robocop from 2014, ladies and gentlemen. One of our many times of trying to make Joel Kidman a movie star. It just wouldn't happen. Stop doing that. Yeah, society said no many times, including in 2014 when that movie came out.
Starting point is 02:04:35 So next week we'll be talking all about the Robocop with Joel Keniman, and I believe Samuel L. Jackson in the role. Yes, yes, indeed. So we're going to talk all about that next week. Until then, I've been Andrew Jupon. Stephen Saddam. Eric Siska. Chris Gavin.
Starting point is 02:04:49 Take it easy.

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