We Hate Movies - S16 Ep870: Minions (2015, with Bob Mackey & Henry Gilbert of Talking Simpsons)

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

“We’re all Minions!” - ChrisOn this week’s show, we welcome back our buds and Animation Experts, Talking Simpsons’ Bob Mackey and Henry Gilbert to help us chat about our little yellow guys��� first solo outing, Minions!How did these little guys come to exist before humanity? What were the Minions up to between 1933 and 1945? Why did we need to hear all these insufferable needle drops? Why couldn’t we have stayed longer on the Minions working for Dracula? Should they have done a Take Two on some of these Big Celebrity Voice Castings? And doesn’t all this work much better without Gru and them kids? PLUS: Were the Minions just God’s perfect mistake? Minions stars the voice talents of Sandra Bullock, Jon Hamm, Michael Keaton, Allison Janney, Steve Coogan, Jennifer Saunders, Geoffrey Rush, Steve Carell, Hiroyuki Sanada, and Pierre Coffin as The Minions; directed by Kyle Balda and Pierre Coffin.Come hang out in Vegas with us this summer as we do a three-night stand at ST:LV to celebrate 60 years of Star Trek and 10 years of The Nexus! We’ll be at the convention Thursday, Friday and Saturday night doing three Nexus shows on Wrath of Kahn, Generations, and First Contact! Best part is, you don’t need to have a convention pass to attend, each show is ticketed separately. Click through to snag your tix now!This episode is sponsored in part by Square! Right now, listeners can get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up atsquare.com/go/whm – that’s S-Q-U-A-R-E dot com slash go slash whm.And by Pestie! Keep the bugs away with Pestie. Go to pestie.com/WHM for an extra 10% off your order.Be sure to visit the WHM Merch shop over on Dashery and check out all the latest show-related designs you can slap on t-shirts, hats, coffee mugs, stickers, whatever! Make your friends jealous by flaunting some WHM merch today! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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If we were not talking about minions in some capacity. So this is Minions, the titular solo outing from 2015, directed by Kyle Baldin, Pierre Coffin, released July the 10th, 2015. And it made domestically $336 million here in the United States for a total global take of $1.2 billion with a B. Oh, good God. And of course, here to talk. all about meanings with us. Our animation experts, our good friends from Talking Simpsons, Bob Mackey and Henry Gilbert, how are you, dudes? Hey.

I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm way yellow, and I can dig that. Who's the mellowest yellow? Because this movie, of course, ends with the mellow yellow song. Oh, yeah. I think Chris Cabin's probably the most mellow. I try to be. I don't know if I always

succeed, but I do attempt to be the yellowest and the mellowest. We should say Eric Siska got hit by a gigantism ray. And he's storming Lower Manhattan right now. And I saw Giant Eric and I'm as hard as a rock right now. And so I'm going to be starting this episode that way. It's a giant Eric. Well, we would love to thank you guys because this is our fourth appearance on We Hate Movies.

If we are invited back for a fifth, I think we both expect an official crew jacket. Oh, I'm working on them. Yeah, no, it's going to be a five-timers club situation. And I want outdated catchphrases all over that thing. Do you have specific ones picked out or should I just go free form? Probably secundus on the back. Oh, there it is. We can make that happen.

Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. You know you're in for a good time because this Universal Pictures logo, the fanfare is replaced by the minions singing it. Oh, isn't that adorable. These guys are just in it from the jump. Second one. I'm surprised I got 90 minutes out of this son of a bitch.

This seems like an 82 to a 75. with fun credits. You know what I mean? Sure. It's like a 60 minute affair and we've got 10 minutes of fun credits. This is a full on 90 minute feature film.

It's not a good sign when you see the company logo and you pause and groan. And that's where I was about 10 seconds into this film. It's the minions expressing their dominance over universal and the globe itself.

That's true. All of us. That is true. I mean, they rule the fucking world now. I mean, whoever controls the dominant number of Jersey Boardwalk T-shirts controls the world.

I have to imagine you have to make this crazy amount of money to allow, because these guys are not just making animated movies, mind you. They allowed a studio allowed and put out a movie called the sheep detectives. Same director as this. Same director

as this and I hear it's really good actually. Yes, thank you, Chris. I wanted to start this podcast by saying, Kaya Balda Innocent, because Henry and I both saw and loved the sheep detectives. I gave it five stars on Letterbox. I think it's my favorite movie of the year so far, I believe. Wow.

It is way better than you would even imagine. And I think Lord and Miller have a lot to do with that, but Kyle Balda is the director. Oh, I didn't know Lord and Miller were affiliated with it. That kind of changes everything for me. Now, it's a bunch of talking sheep trying to solve Hugh Jackman's murder. Is that right? Yes, but it's not as stupid as that log line would make it seem.

It's incredibly awesome. Australian. It is like people have said it's it's knives out meets Babe. That's an easy lot. But it really is the lives of the sheep, the interiority of their lives, the rules of them and the like

them learning heavy lessons for a kids movie. Like that's the stuff that touched me the most watching it. And it is a really good mystery full of the good human actors too. And not one needle drop in the entire goddamn movie. That's where you're thinking. That's where

you want to be, because let me tell you something, it should be against the law to put the turtles happy together in a movie ever again. That should have been stopped years ago. Well, I mean, adaptation should have been the end of it. Like, that's the end of adaptation. It's a great little closing montage there with the like the cool, what do you call it there, fast motion of what do you call that when you're looking at a time really fast? Time lapse. Time lapse. Yeah, great time lapse there. After the Wongar Y film, they should have stopped. Yes. Well, also, we learned from a Simpsons commentary, not to put our work into this already, but

they bragged on a Simpsons commentary where they have happy together in it as well that they say it's like one of the most getable songs around. The music budget on this, the music rights budget has to be astronomical. I mean, the movie made a billion dollars, so

clearly they knew what they were doing, but oh my God. I mean, the greatest barometer for that is the fact that you're using real recordings from the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, and we're not just inundated with the worst covers you've ever heard in your life. I think you get, like, technically there's two Beatles drops because you get the harmonica from the beginning of Love Me Do when they do the Abbey Road drug that did make me want to go find a gun to put in my mouth.

But Rolling Stone, like, you get the actual full-on beetle, is a... Revolution. No, isn't it got to get you into my life? Are there, how many, there's got to get you in my life is the big, is the first credit song. And then we hear the minionese version of Revolution. Oh,

that's what I'm, okay. The minionese version is cheaper from what I hear. You can get that at your wedding if you need to, if you want to come. Do you think anyone's had it at their wedding? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Oh, because there's weird freak people for everything. Dude, there's definitely been a minion wedding. Some asshole that looks, he doubles as like Paul Bearer and grew. He appears at your wedding. He does the ceremony. You could have, you get Bob on one, on one inner thigh tattooed,

and then Kevin tattooed on the other inner thigh. And like, you're the third minion in that scenario. I have trouble putting on, like, a fancy clothes to go to a wedding. There are kids going in to see these movies in, like, tuxedos, because it's a joke. It's a funny joke that everybody's having. And for that, what are you given? You're given what looked like to me, at least at the beginning,

a minion sperm. I thought I was looking at a minion con. I was certain of it for a moment. It seemed like a look who's talking scenario. Yes. We're beginning within the walls of the vagina. But thankfully it's much more innocent than that.

Thank God. Yes, it is like so, you know, before humans, before man, before we had creatures breathing earth, breathing air on earth, we had the fish people have yet to come out of the water. And wouldn't you know it? minions were also fish people at the time.

Is this everybody's first round with the minions? Oh, no, I saw this movie. We didn't see it in theaters, but Chelsea and I got wicked ripped and watched this on like a rental, which is, I think, the correct way to do it. Yep. I have a nephew who is now going to be in high school

who was way into this. And like, I just kind of got, I didn't remember any of it. It was kind of always like, his attention span was everywhere. So like the movie was on and we were doing other stuff. But I've seen this probably four or five times. Wow.

In that nephewish kind of kid way. Like every time I was going over, like, let's watch the minions. Okay. You know, Steve, here's what you have to do though, dude. Every time that's happening, you know, and now they're getting a little older, so I don't know. But like, you got to do a letterbox thing watched with nephew. And so you keep track of all the times you did it. Yeah, this is the first time for me.

And because I watched a spicable me one and two for your podcast, I was much more charitable to this one, I will say. This is a step up. If you enter it minions and think it's crap, it gets worse. It gets much worse. It's funny too that when we did Despicable Me Too, it ends with a 3D teaser of this movie

with Kevin Stewart and Bob like doing ping pong or paddle ball stuff to the screen to be like, hey, come in next year, the minion. And now here we are. Yes. Yeah. I am interested in the balance of minions like do the minions work without grew was the test for me in this movie like are they better

if they if there's no grue holding them back or do they need grew though also i kind of like in minion reality i was confused at this new choice like i always thought the minors were just they were things that grew made like all of his other things but in in fact no minions have always existed and like they are eternal they are as old as life itself on earth yeah It's kind of like loophilas. It's really bone-chilling in that way. They presage man, dude. They have presaged man

in terms of like, you know, and like, I guess man resemble Minion, not the other way around. You know what I mean? As they are more, they have been here earlier, they have had, they had opposable thumbs before we did. That's right. Well, I think that's why in this

in this like Minions throughout time montage, which is like the first almost quarter of the film it feels like, I feel like it's very important. Like you have the little, the minion like latching onto the back of the fish guy who's going to take the first steps on land and breathe air. And then it cuts forward to like the Stone Age and it's like, we're told at some point around here like minions latch on to like the most despicable person they could find.

And that's their boss that they want to work with. That's the weird relationship that minions have with other beings. But like they very pointedly are like, here's a minion, here's a caveman, but also here's a monkey that the caveman is yelling at because this movie doesn't want us thinking, which you would rightfully think that humanity came from minion life. I will say one thing, though, one thing I came to the realization is we are the minions. We are all the goddamn minions. That is the joke of the movie is that we are all the fucking minions.

We are quietly making everything work, but we are like little fucking dumbasses yapping at each other and yelling for fucking sugary treats, except for they're nice enough to have bananas. They're not having like nerve ropes. And you're right. And what we're looking for always, it seems, is some fucking evil strong man to hold us in his

iron fist. Absolutely. We are minions. Just accept it. That's what we are. This is 2015. We're predicting 2016 with this dark view of humanity. Exactly. We pre-suppose that Tyrannosaurus Rex is are evil. They're not. They're nice. You know what I mean?

They're doing their job. They're monsters. Yeah, this movie has some statements to make. T-rexes are evil. Napoleonese evil. I know he's a polarizing figure, but it's complicated at best. Well, what's funny is that they do the Napoleon. And then they're just like, oh wait, we can't be like a, uh, uh,

uh, uh, oh, and yes, I think we should go to, uh, Auschwitz. You're right. Yes, yeah, exactly. We'll go there. We rightfully skip a couple hundred years of world history. Yes. Yeah, and you know, I get it, but my whole question is like, and I guess it's because you, the only reason that we have to deal with this being in the 1960s is because they wanted to, in a way, like, Rogue One this shit where the ass of this movie backs into them meeting Gru, and there's your Minions 2 Rise of Gru, which I've not seen. But like, had that not been something they felt themselves, you know, required to do, please take it. it further into the future.

The 80s. Everybody loves, oh, cool, awesome 80s. Like, it's right there. Even the 70s is a little catchy, but man, just the 60s again. Like, I fucking saw three Austin Powers movies. The jokes about the 60s are done. Yes. Well, because you specifically, you do not like this kind of music. If it's not like the headliners, right? You are a, it's the big two. Yes, exactly. It's the big two, or I just, I cannot, I don't give a fuck about this kind of rock and roll.

I'll be honest, I really like the soundtrack. I mean, not independently of it, you know, or I should say independently of it. I've had too many car rides with a stepdad to really enjoy this music anymore. No, I had an addiction as a child to listening to, I know if it got played on an oldie station in the 80s and 90s from the 60s, like I know that song. Like there's, it is just drilled into my brain from being a kid. So I enjoyed the music too. I, though it then mixes in with my distaste for Illuminations love of the most obvious needle drop all of the time.

It's why I enjoyed the second Mario movie, Galaxy, 10 times as much as first because they actually didn't fucking do any of those. They did one. They didn't watch the movie. Good for them. That's a little bit of restraint. Like, because like this, like I grew up, one of my best friends that wasn't Andrew in high school,

was my friend Danny who was obsessed with the Nuggets box set if anybody knows what this is. It was all like the weird little like rarities from like bands that barely put out an EP during like the 50s and 60s. And just it was these little songs that were catchy as hell. But like from bands that just never made it. And that's that was all it was all this kind of music. Like that's how I found out about the letter which is I love that song.

Buy me a ticket from an airplane. I love that song I feel like my tolerance for the boomer rock shit would be a little better if in fact like because I do not seek it out so when I listen to it it's in needle drops where it's being forced upon me

and the problem is it's the same like three or four songs right it's the same couple of songs from the kinks it's the same fucking two Donovan songs every time you know what I mean like These people had more music than the fucking bangers from 70 years ago. Like, come on. Man, they do a needle drop and it's Miles Davis's bitch's brew for like half of this.

Dude, fuck yeah. That would love that. That'd be great. The minions are just fucking walking around naked, drinking a lot of wine or something. Doing horse. Hell yeah. This is kind of a movie in search of a movie, I think. A lot of it is. I mean, the first, I think the first opening bit is fun, you know,

the minions through the ages. and then like them in their ice they get uh i do like the idea of being exiled by napoleon that's kind of fun you know that this is made by a frenchman because that dude's like absolutely oh yeah what i mean just like once france lost napoleon they're like yeah we give up like the same same for the minions i really explains all the slander about the british in this film well i do appreciate during that opening a bit about the minions throughout history

all of the death we see up front because that is very uncommon for children's movies. You watch a lot of them on our podcast. And this is something that does not happen. There will be like one pointed death in a film. And it will be a big moment. But the minions are just slaying master after master in this montage. It's impressive.

Yeah. In a Disney, equivalent Disney film, they would want to have their cake and eat it too, like a horrible, a thing would fall on somebody. And then a character would just off screen say like, I'm okay or ow or whatever. If you can confirm they lived. But here it's like, there are on-screen deaths that where we see corpses, like the corpse on screen.

In fact, in the Illumination logo, they're all singing. One minion hits a note a little too long. He passes out and his arm just flops to the ground. His eye is open. That is a dead minion up front. They got my letters. They got my letters. Here's the thing about the minions because we see them, we're not even spawn from, you know, as Chris elegantly put it,

Minion come. And, but that's, it seems like there's a finite number of minions. Yeah. You don't know what I mean? Because you don't see any more added to the group later on. And there's never like a baby minion, right? No, exactly. So maybe there was like a group, you know, just like this, you this fucking, I don't know,

like God's perfect mistake that like he banished the minions out of the Garden of Eden. Sure. And basically then on they, like Kane, they have to walk the earth forever kind of a thing. Exactly, dude, they picked the wrong banana from the garden and ate it. Poor Bob ate a snake thinking he was a banana. I do like the minions, the minions when they're hanging out with the caveman, and then they get the caveman killed because like a bear eats this guy. Yes, that's fucking brutal.

Dude, I'm just picturing, no, these minions must not listen to the tape of the caveman master being eaten by the bear. Don't do it, Bob. Don't. Kevin, Kevin, I implore you. Kevin, do not listen to the tape. Support for today's episode comes from Square, the business platform that helps sellers become neighborhood favorites. Now, whether you're gearing up for a busy season or just trying to keep up with everyday demand, Square keeps your business running smoothly.

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I think so too, yeah. It would be artistic, which is something this movie never does. I wonder maybe if that's the, maybe they wanted to do that, and then somebody was like, you need to talk. You know what I mean? Because these minions need to talk. And like the celebrity voices are where everything falls apart in this movie. Like, Sandra Bullock is so bad in this.

Oh, she's not doing anything. I, like, I give credit to John Hamm because at least like at first I was like, I don't know that's exactly John Hamm. The minute it happened, I was like, oh, that's John Hamm. But with Sandra Bullock, you're like, oh, that is completely Sandra Bullock. And she did not give a fuck about doing anything. She didn't give a fuck. And she doesn't have a dynamic voice that can do.

Like, that's the least interesting part of Sandra Bullock. Like, you know, the way that she acts is not, it's not like, oh, and then her voice is like perfect. You know what I mean? I don't know. Right. Well, and then also, it's weird because this is, and I think to date still is her only villain role. And like, I don't need somebody playing villains. The blind side.

Let's go. All right. The explicitly, the movie's acknowledging she's a villain. How about let's put it that way. There we go. The blind side certainly does not do that.

No, it does not. Oceans 8 doesn't either. She's a nefarious jewel thief. She is. Yeah, I guess we'll meet her character soon. But in this film, you could tell the animation they're doing for the character is not matching

the performance in any way. And I'm sure they wanted it to match the performance, but she's not ready for this kind of a role. Does she do a lot of voice acting? This is, is this kind of it? Apparently she was in Prince of Egypt as well. Yes, I looked that up. That was the only other one I could find either.

It's the character named Miriam. So I don't think she even had that major of a role. When they cast her, when they would have cast her in 98, she was, you know, fresh off of speed. She was not a huge, she was a breakout star of speed, but not a huge star yet. No. I think she was fresh off of speed too. So she was cheaper than ever.

Finding something. Yeah, I mean, like, it's a joke that the whole cast like this, but like white as paper Sandra Bullock in the movie, the Prince of Egypt. A little strange to me. I haven't seen that. It's one of the few Disney's I haven't seen. Bob and Henry, have you ever seen it?

Is it worth it? It's DreamWorks. Oh, is DreamWorks? Oh, never mind. It's a DreamWorks. I haven't seen it. I love to cover it on our show because I avoided it in the 90s because I spent a decade in Catholic school and I didn't need to go to church at the movies. I knew the story. But now I've recovered and I can

probably see it and weigh in on it. I saw it theatrically as a kid or as a teen and then I haven't revisited since other than Eclipse, but it has incredible. It's funny that DreamWorks will later go on to be the Shrek house because one of their first to movies is Prince of Egypt where they're trying to show off that they can do the best 2D animation out there and do better than Disney. If you just see the burning bush in it, it's some of the greatest animation of fire you will ever see. Okay. That tells me. I barely remember, but I remember being beautiful, but also like trying to Disney.

You know, it wasn't a Disney movie, but Disney. Like, there's like funny songs in the movie and you're like, that's not Moses. You know what I mean? It was Katzenberg trying to prove he could out Disney Disney. Like he quit Disney is like, well, I'll make something even better than Lion King. And this will be prestige and will win all the Oscars. And I think I probably got a couple nominations. The only nomination I can remember was for the Mariah Carey Whitney Houston song that's

credits. Oh shit. That was for that movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, no. Remember that. Have not checked. But speaking of Egypt, though, minions in ancient Egypt, that's pretty funny. They fuck up the design of the pyramid. They kill hundreds of people. It is a slaughter of like an entire community here. This is rated PG. I love it. And I guess it gives final creed as it wasn't aliens that built the pyramids. It was the minions actually, which are not aliens, but something other than man. I like your God idea, Steve, but I do, I kind of think what happened is that once Gru gets a hold of these things, like he cracks the secret recipe, like he took back a 12 piece of KFC and was able to figure out the spices and just like started pumping these things out day after day. Because he has a lot of fucking like different weapons to try out on these things, I assume.

You know that he was definitely eating those minions that he was taking the samples from, Chris. You're not going to waste good minion. Also, though, speaking of God and everything and aliens, I'm kind of thinking Prometheus right now. I think it's a thing of like maybe the minions themselves, ancient aliens, they flew over Earth, maybe sprinkled some of this minion dust into the water. Like, that's how they reproduce.

They sprinkled themselves like fish food, kind of. And then this dude, he drinks it, a minion drinks it, dies and falls into the waterfall. And then we know that everything else. Yes. Exactly. That's how the Simpson started. Oh, no.

Yeah, I think we attempted to discover Minion Anatomy last time, and we just determine they have anus and we're not sure where to go from there. Yeah, that's probably... Well, they have... The research hasn't continued. Bob, I'm going to... I think we're going to circle back on that this time around. I'm just my guess, knowing this show.

I do appreciate... Probably, to me, the funniest of these through the ages thing is them working for Dracula and trying to celebrate Dracula's 300th, whatever birthday and opening the curtains and killing him instantly. Well, they agreed with you because that was definitely the one that was highlighted in the trailer from what I remember is the Dracula was the big one before we get to the Yeti Cave, which is where we actually settle down. It's a great quick joke, though. It also, this is me being too much of a nerd about lore and stuff, but this is a universe where like, okay, it's not just science villains and it's like a James Bond world. Vampires are real.

Yes, yes, exactly. Including the most famous vampire of all. Well, I've seen that stupid trailer for minions and monsters about 30 times now. So I feel like they're previewing that part of their universe in this film 10 years earlier. They're clearly doing a we're going to break this up. Monsters is going to be its own thing. You know what I mean? Like you love the minions.

Here come the monsters. That's my guess. Just because the monster logo is so like well designed. It just feels like we're going to try to make this. This is a backdoor pilot here for monsters. Yeah, it's a minion Trojan horse and the universal monsters are snuck inside of it. Oh, fucking.

For a new generation. Monster Turducken. Oh, no. The Frankenstein's hand gets stabbed and they all have to cover his mouth. No, you can't grow it. Stop! But yes, after they Screw over Napoleon, he shoots them

out of a cannon or they shoot him with a cannon or something. What happens? The minions kill Napoleon and then people... It seems like they're trapped. It's like they're in, it's during Napoleon's disastrous journey into Russia. Yes. And so then they just go up into the hinterlands of Russia and put themselves in a cave and invent therapy while in there too. Oh, nice.

And I think, I guess maybe the Minion's idea was the campaign into Russia. Maybe he asked Kevin about it. Oh, that could be. Oh, I see. Should they never listen to Kevin? See, and that's prepared for this weather. Now I even more want this villain. I want the real villains.

They're the ones pushing Hitler for Stalingrad. They're like, oh, that me, pick him up, bab, bah, bah. No, you're right. No, you're right. We should go. Those weak Russians. We talked about how they have to fast forward through many decades of history, but I do want to see a sketch in which they are tormenting Hitler in his bunker in the final days.

Yes. Yes, absolutely. We'll make that happen. The three of them are like tossing a pistol around like, do it, do it, do it, do it. And you know what? If like fucking looney tunes and Warner Brothers like had the guts back in the day to make some Hitler cartoons, put Hitler in this minions movie. They're advising him as to what to do.

Just do it. You can make it. It's short as the, as short as the Napoleon thing. It's like 10, 15 seconds. I don't need the rise. A little dark, I would say. I would say it's a little dark. A little bit.

But like, come on. What else are you going to do? You're just going to make the same movie over and over again? I mean, then one after this is the rise of grew. And wouldn't it just be funnier after the, at the end of this day, all of a sudden, it's like, it's like many years later and they're in the jungles of Cambodia and they meet Pol Pot and there he is. They have the most despicable. There you go. I would assume in the 60s that doing this stops them from being co-opted by the CIA for

for 24th. That's true. Yes. So yes, they invent therapy and thank God they did because they found out through the therapy that they invented that they're all depressed because they don't have a master. And without a master, these things will die. And I'm sorry, you need to have. have a thing where like they're all like hanging back in the cave and there's like an old minion who's getting ready to kick off because there's no master around and he's like weak and like turning white like E.T or something. That'd be fun. Or they're committing suicide and mass. You know what I mean? Out of out of. We see later in the movie it's hard to kill them. Like you can't they can't they could have had a attempted suicide and a hanging not work and just

use that joke from later in the movie acceptance. It's for self-harmed. If they ever do a thing that would make me, I would scream and I try not to get, again, I try to be mellow and yellow. But if they ever try to do a second Roger Rabbit thing, the only thing I need them to do for sure is put one of these minion

motherfuckers in the dip. I need to see it. I need to know what that is because the shoe was a nice fellow. He wasn't bothering nobody. These fuckers are, they destroyed Earth more less for the last fucking centuries they've been doing this shit. You're right?

they are guilty and I find me I'll be Judge Doom and find them guilty and this is sort of the moment when Kevin reveals himself to be like the guy

the man with the plan the minion with the plan and like and then Stuart shows up and then Bob is the cute one the problem is there's no I mean they can't speak which is one

it could be a problem but the problem is like they don't really want anything differently Kevin doesn't isn't the smart one Stewart isn't Kevin Stewart kind of

of wants music. It's very vague, is why you're not, you want to just specific tropes like Kevin's inventing stuff and Stuart's always messing it up and Bob is what a baby you know, something like that. This could sound odd but I couldn't figure out Stuart as an adult man. I'm thinking like

what, I guess he's kind of horny. He's into fire hydrants. Yes, that's, yeah, he is the horniest minion. That's for sure. And he's a musician. She's the one with the guitar. So like that is the only thing. And Bob is the stupid. one. They're all stupid, but Bob is the stupidest one.

Bob the Minion. But he's like, he's, Bob the Minion. But he's, but he's like cute kids stupid though, you know what I mean? Yes. He's not like a geech gone to heaven, Mr. Tuhrilliger kind of stupid. Like he's, these little kids stupid. So it's, it's cute that, you know, he's that stupid. Bob the Minion is, he is what works the most in the movie for me. I like, he is adorable. Every cute thing he does makes me go, oh, despite myself. I don't, I don't, I don't want. to have to hand it to them, but I'm like, boy, it is a cute character. This is a cute character who they found a cute thing to do. They found also a way to pick three minions out. And these are like the minionisty minions that they somehow feel, at least Bob does, unique enough from the rest of the minions to stand out. Yeah. Yeah. I would like it if like there was a minion, you know, like burpee or something. And like burpee wanted to go on the mission, but like it's burp smell.

And so like they didn't want that. Like give me like a like a, like a, a, like a, minion reject. Like, what's that guy up to? Like, burpee, not coming on the mission. He's a big stink mouth. If we're all jealous of Bob Mackie here being the only one of a named minion in here, I did learn, there's a joke of a Henry minion in this movie. And then I checked, every, every one of us has a canonical on a Wikipedia minion name, like our name plus the minion. Yes. Thank God for that. I mean, I'm going to find, there should be find by minion.com. then you can know what your minion was, what he was doing in the film. Totally, yeah.

Then you do a find my miniongrave.com. So the fuckers are buried. Ooh. I mean, Stuart does say hello to a Chris, and I was very happy to be like, oh, I'm there. I'm just not saying anything. Thank God for that. Oh, it's like the minions talking to me.

Yay. But the minions wait 200 years until one of them decides, let's look for a new master. You know what I mean? I guess they decided to hang it all up after the whole Napoleon in this incident, which makes sense. I think it was a thing where they realized like the dying thing much later

and that's why their power cells were depleting and they were like oh shit now we're gonna die now we really have to do something about this well they invent Christmas in the Yeti cave which is nice nice of them I will say well they knew Christ personally

that's good of them They do skip over that don't they man we could have seen we could have seen that they could have been with Judas he was a dastardly fellow they pushed him to it you're right dude oh that's what it is right so because it's jesus right but because you know even

though he was jesus they're like hey we're not just crucifying one guy at a time here jesus had like two other dudes next to him crucified at the same time change those out to minions there's just two crucified minions and then jesus christ on the main cross oh fuck yeah yeah they're just hanging out with barabbas and the barabbas is like crying oh i i got so lucky getting put down to the to be Harvick Haetel Judas from the Last Nitation of Christ. If we're doing that, I need the, like, what are you fucking doing, minions? What are you doing?

That's my friend Jesus up there. Can't you see? We see Minion torture later, but they don't, I assume the crucifixion scene was cut from this movie. We see them trying to be hanged and in search of the rack, but we complain about these

needle drops, and I feel like a lot of that is universal putting their thumb on the scale. They realize people like to hear these familiar songs. And that's what this Christmas scene felt like to me. You know what? People love, they love Christmas. Put in jingle bells and all the other songs. And it'll pick them up in this first 10 minutes of the movie or 20 minutes. Now you can air this shit in December on TBS. Now you've got at least one December viewing on TBS. And you got some savage on the internet fucking arguing that because of that, Minions is a Christmas movie.

Oh, no. So the minions set out on their walk and we got some minion walking here, very Lord of the Rings walking. we're walking over mountain tops and forests and fields and whatnot. And they get to the water's edge and they decide they're going to make a little boat out of a tree here. Kind of cute. And this is, man, again, another like, I know you're playing it for a joke, but it's wild to think about minion cannibalism in this movie. Because they're on the little boat and they're getting hungry.

And then it's like the one imagines the other two as bananas and is getting really ready to chomp down on them. Fuck yeah, dude. Do you think they eat each other? that's got to be a thing. Early on at least, the first year of minions being on land, I think they had to eat each other. I just, I don't believe it any other way. The biology is

always suspect. We don't know when they need to eat, how they need to eat. They seem to like bananas, but do they need bananas to live? You understand my question. I think they single out the one-eyed minions, and Stewart's lucky he jumped on this boat in time because he was next to be cold. That's really why

he was happy to go. I know, I like, I said this in my letter box, but the minions are at their best when they're just like stealing from Charlie Chaplin or Looney Tunes. And yes, taking the old, I see my crewmate as a roast chicken, but making them all bananas like with banana arms that are separate from their banana bodies. I was like, you know what? This, it's a cute reuse of the joke we've all seen in a million. Totally. So we get, they land. They land in Liberty Harbor, New York. City, 1968. This is where we get Rolling Stones, 19th, nervous breakdowns playing. We get a nice Richard Nixon advertisement going on. The minions participate in an anti-Vietnam war protest. There's your despicable man. Go to Washington. You know what? Help that. Oh, I need you to get into a hotel. Come on. Here's your little recording device. You're going to pretend you're a janitor, all right. And with G. Gordon Whitty, they're messing it all up for him. I think Nixon would have assumed these are an ethnic group he hated. So he just not going to be.

You got the Jews over here. And then you got the fucking minions over here. All those minions, they'll rob your pockets. They'll rob your pockets clean. Henry, Henry, get in here. I need your opinion on this. I know you're dealing with Cambodia, but I got something bigger here.

Can we bomb the minions? Can we do it in country? I think it is totally possible if you would like to bomb the minions, yes. Oh, great. Work out. Oh, great. High five.

I was also slightly grumpy of like It's a five Rolling Stone song It's a very good song But when so much of the movie takes place in London Why are they playing a British band Like play a New York band for New York That's it can even be an obvious needle drop But just a New York band for New York

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Please about the sexual sexuality The Velvet Underground, Banana right there Easy peas Holy shit Oh dude they inspire it That's what it is They inspire the fucking album cover They make crazy

Warhol do the Oh yeah It's all there They have the Warhol They have the Warhol tomato can in this movie too So they already are that close Yeah Warhol would film a minion sleeping

For about seven hours You know what I mean for sure. I mean, if he met a minion, I think that would derail the whole Andy Warhol project. Like, he would just, the world is a new now. It's opened up. And like, maybe, hey, maybe that saves some of us

from having to... But minions in New York in the 60s, that's a movie. And then, or minions go to Villancon, also a movie. But they, all of these... Or this, this is a movie right here, too, right in the middle of it. Minions backrooms, dude, because they fucking work their way into, like, this department

store, and they're sleeping there over night like Chewetel Sgeophores doing that movie? I, this is where I had been way, okay, so I've been to Universal Studios too many times. I'm a theme park free. And I'll tell you, the Minions own Universal Studios in every one I've been to. I've been to Japan,

Hollywood, and Orlando. And I always wonder like, what's the deal with this teddy bear? And Tim the teddy bear, I understand now what the deal is and why everybody loves them and it's cute. But there's not even Bob just walks into to the next scene after they put on

the origin of the of their overalls. He's just holding the teddy bear in the next scene. There's no origin to it. I thought I thought we get an explanation of where Tim came from at least. Similar with the actual the iconic dungary overalls.

Like they're just there. They don't have to get them from somebody like maybe some Italian plumbers are just taking them off or something. They are very Mario and Luigi. Yeah, exactly. If they landed in New York in 1991 when every woman was wearing overalls, I could see that being

a fashion choice. But the 60s, I don't think of that as overall time. Maybe they put on the blossom hat and it's like, b'b-b-b-bh. He takes it off. You know what I mean? Oh, they get there and they put on a woo tame. Shame on a, oh, wait, can't do that. No.

I do like them watching TV. They flip on the tube and Bewitched is playing first, which is cool. Then it goes to do a dating game show where all the contestants are shaped like the three of them. And they're named after the of the human

version of the actual minions themselves. They're all reading for their But they have the personalities of the minions too, which is very weird. Uh, uh,

the woman, uh, decides after the television goes out so we don't see which minion she picked. I do like, there's a little, some of the,

the 60s don't matter in about seven minutes. So it's nice to have some 60s specificity. Like, I like the saint opening. Watch. the illumination imagination people

animate these 60s TV shows was fun for me Yeah totally Yeah I know the same With the animated Bewitch

It's nice We can't complain about Every joke Because this podcast would be as long as one of ours But I was say We watched Shrek

Someone recently with Henry We cover that podcast And they did a dating game joke in 2001 And even that felt pretty old So I feel like Some of these jokes

Now need to be Carbon dated Because you really can't do a dating game parody In the year of Our Lord 2015

It just can't happen Well, it just tells you exactly what these people are after, right? The kids get all the minion stuff and the music and I guess all these little references, the Nixon reference and all that stuff, is for the adults. And like, I just, wouldn't it just be better to make a better movie? Well, it's always better to make a better movie. But also, I think the weird thing is, I mean, that's not for the parents of minions-aged kids. Those are for the grandparents of minions-aged kids.

If you're a parent-if-if-you-old-old. a child in 2015 that's of age to see a minions movie, you did not come around in the late 60s or early 70. You should have it did Star Wars jokes and whatever, you know what I mean? Like that's that kind of stuff. But you did come back for when all that stuff like not, of course,

Beatles and Rolling Stones have always been pretty popular, but when that music got rediscovered in the 90s, like the turtles and all that, their records became important again because there was all of a sudden this like, like I said, the Nuggets thing, that came out around that time and people all of a sudden were like, oh yeah, this stuff was great. This stuff was,

As Andrew said, most of it's not that good, but a lot of it is. But like for all the, you know, refine, you know, rediscovering whatever, I still just have to listen to imagine me and you. So nothing came of any of that. So again, you're holding on, like you're in the back rooms. You're like, all right, so this room has three chairs in it. Oh, wait, I'm going to go around this quarter. Now it's Christmas.

Because now it's the, it's villain con. That's what's, we're watching on television. Yep. Do we see Sandra Bullock is in the first commercial? Well, it's advertised that she's going to be there. I think it's just a picture of Scarlet Overkill. Yeah, in black and white. This is where I did, I felt like they kind of missed.

They hit so many cultural signifiers here. But when they're trying to make up a commercial in the movie, I can also grouse that I think that they didn't make it feel like a commercial from the 60s. Like it feels like a modern commercial, like say like, oh, she's big. She's bad. That's not how people watch old commercials from the 60s. That's not how Kurt Marshalls from the 60s looks. Minions love Chesterfield cigarettes.

Yes. Yes. They do just a fucking advertiser little minion pulling on a butt like that. Oh, how fucking awesome. I'd start smoking again. That's how much I'd love that. That would be so awesome. Now I see the insidiousness.

Again, back to the Universal Studio stuff. I see the insidiousness of all this. Villan Khan became a ride there. and the destination of Orlando. I was like, oh, they were just thinking about this the entire time. Like, well, of course we're going to tie. They already had one ride in Universal in 2015. And this set up the second ride that opened a few years ago that is called Villaincon.

Wow. Wow. And so what is it just like a cavalcade of villains doing evil stuff to you? I believe it is set in the past and you're avoiding the villains with your best friends, the minions. I do like the Villancon like motto. or logo, whatever. So much fun, it's a crime,

which is pretty good. And the nice, the funny gag of, it's located at 545 Hornsgrove Avenue in Orlando. I do appreciate that they actually like took the time to be like, oh, in the late 60s, Florida was not the developed vacation land that it is now. And in fact, it was a fucking total swamp in Orlando until Walt Disney came around. So I do sort of like that. So much of this just also makes me think of all the TV.

stuff, the much more superior TV stuff in the Incredibles. Yes. Yes. It was all fucking like from the three point line just fucking house in it every time. We're about to beat the villain Incredibles, obviously. This other family is exactly note for note almost

every single Incredible. Although I didn't see Alice and Janney's shapely ass in this film like Miss Mrs. Incredible. They had a glove fetish for her instead of an ass fetish. Yeah, that's what makes sense. We're in that 60s reference pool but also we're taking a dip in the pool full of Austin

Powers and the Incredibles and the Tick and Venture Brothers, that same sort of idea where it's like, oh, look at the realistic side of supervillains and how it's sort of like a job and how they have regular lives, all that kind of thing, which is what we complained about in our, just took Me Too podcast with you guys. It's very well-trodden ground at this point, the idea

of a villain and the henchmen corporation, etc. Like, we've seen a lot of this very recently. Another missed opportunity here, though, because on their way out of the city to get to Orlando, they're hitchhiking. That's how we meet this evil Nelson family. But they're out in like the

fucking Meadowland, Steve. I was thinking if there was ever a time for a Godfather parody, shoot one of these fucking things in the head, drop the minion, take the canollies. Yeah, exactly. Or at 60s we're hitchhiking. Is that Ted Bundy time a little bit? That guy was a dastity fellow

you might want to follow around. A little later, but absolutely. I mean, there was some fucking night creep around, definitely. Ted Bundy just like as flirting with the minion, like, trying to get him back and back to his place. That sounds like fun. Hell yeah. But yes, the Nelson family.

And I feel like, man, oh, man. What, I mean, they had all the money in the world to cast this. So obviously, but like, what a waste of Michael Keaton and Alice and Jenny. I think they've got like four lines a piece. Swap parts. That's what needs to happen with the main villains in this. Like I, this is a general treatise I have on John Hamm I've been sitting on. But I feel.

John Ham is an incredible dramatic actor who really wants to be a great comedic actor, and he's only kind of funny to me. Well, meanwhile, Michael Keaton is everything John Ham wants to be. He started as a comedian and is incredibly funny, but also is, I'd say, John Ham's equal or better in drama as well. Like, he can do both of those things. And Allison Janney fucking rules, too. I love her so much.

And it's also a crime on the level of the Nelson family's crimes. It is a crime that Keaton and Jenny have not. like being in a live action drama together or anything. This is like their one movie they're in together. But to Bob actually and that's a good point Henry and also to Bob's point like if they were doing the overkills Janney and Keaton

the performance would match the animation. You know what I mean because like the Nelson's the performances match the animation. They're very big and boisterous and woo wee wow and like it comes from the voice as well. It really it is a one to one kind of situation. And again I like Sandra Bullock fine but Alison Janney has such a

elastic boys. She can do anything with that thing. And like, I kind of, when this all happens, because I read the cast and I was like, Keaton, fucking Jen, okay, they must be a big deal. We got this one scene that goes on for like, what, five, ten minutes tops.

And then like, and the thing is, it's funny. It's good. It works. Like, I love him, Michael Keaton being like, who needs to stretch their legs? And then they start putting bank robber masks on to go. It's so fucking funny to reveal. I was very sick of all of the very warm Dover, Dr. Evil jokes that persist

throughout the series. So this is a new idea that I thought at the risk of complimenting the minions, this is a funny idea. The suburban family who is also on a crime spree. It would be like a Bonnie and Clyde type deal of them driving across America and robin people instead. Like that, there's the movie and it's so

annoying that this is just like a time killer to get to Villancon when they discovered a better movie than just the Austin Power stuff in England that's going to come after. Yep, you're totally right. I mean, this movie, like, gleefully passes by two or three other better ideas for movies before it gets to its idea for the movie.

I do like the minions here, too. They get in a high-speed chase with the cops. The minions use a fucking rocket launcher to get these pigs off the road. Acab, man. Minions say acab. They're evil things. They're evil little creatures. Totally.

Quick thing on the more minion anatomy. The thumbs in this movie were very bulbous, and I guess I've never noticed that before. Anybody else? No. The hands on humans are very small. Yes. Usually. Yeah, I was so focused on trying to discover the genital area of a million.

I wasn't looking their hands enough. They don't need them because their fingers are little dildos, my friend. Their fingers are a little dildos. Yeah, they got a little knob on the end of that thumb. Yeah, exactly. It's going to go places. Perfect for the little butt. You're saving tons of money on sex toys.

You're just got to sit on your own hand. I mean, that's great. Just wiggle a little bit, get deeper, it's fine. Eric's going to be so bummed. Well, he is in a room in his house working on the great project of what do the minions genitals look like. He's been working on this since the last episode we did with Bob and Henry. Here, look at these minion hands.

I'm putting in the chat, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. Or gentlemen here. Heaven forbid a woman was on this show. They're on sometimes. No, but this time around, just all the guys. Let's see here. Oh.

Steve, this looks AI generated, so this is not legitimate. Oh, damn it. Okay. I've been duped. Okay. A robot drew this, but it's remarkably similar to what we see in this film. All right, here we go. Now I got it.

Grandpa got duped by AI. That happens sometimes. There we go. Oh, yes. Yeah, I see that there. And now I can identify that as specifically Bob. That's the Bob minion. It's got some good-looking fingers.

This is the state of the world. We can't trust a minion picture we see online anymore. I mean, the minions had to be the first thing fed into the slot machines. Oh, yeah. Replicate, right? It must have been, right? I mean, start with the best and work from there. It seems like it was that.

And I was told recently Eminem is like the number one, like, as celebrities that is fed into the AI thing. Eminem is the rapper or? Yes, the rapper. No, no, the rapper is number one. Well, if a menu asks you for your bank account number, look at the little thumbs. Make sure they check out. He should just have a thumb and two fingers.

If he doesn't, he's not working for the bank. And never, the minions will never call you with your code. They will only text the key. So we get back in the car after the, the big chase here. And we're looking through the, there's like a villain mag that the little daughter is looking through. And we're very excited to see Frankie Fishlips, which is like a, creature from the Black Lagoon kind of guy, which I kind of like,

because I'm a big Gilman fan, and I feel like he doesn't get a lot of love in the modern day monster talk. Not a lot of love in general in this film either. He stands out the most from the cavalcade of villains in the big chase later. You know what? I guess also to fit for the 60s,

we get a playboy foldout joke, centerfold joke as well. Oh, sure. Yeah. Don't leave home without it. Oh, boy. Got to have one of those jokes. We also have sumo guy who, I just like, I feel like Sumo, it's kind of like that I think you should leave a bit where it's like, what is your thing?

Because Sumo Guy is just standing around a lot of the time. Like, what makes you funny, Sumo guy? Like, what is your joke? And he doesn't have. I know, I'm sorry, Steve, you're wrong there. He's fat. Okay, I got it. He's, that is, that is the key to this is that when a minion is thrown

into his belly, he stays there. That is the joke. Did you see, though, speaking of just money to throw with stuff, do you see who's doing this sumo? No, I have no idea. Horiuki Sonata from Mortal Kombat. A ton of other things. That's a huge star.

Scorpion himself is voicing this fucking sumo wrestler. It's like the Tom Cruise of Japan doing this one-off. Wow. So I do love they get to Villancon and it's like a little radio box and the car is taken down into this big secret underground layer, which is very nice. They've got such things as like a henchman place. test, which I thought was kind of funny. And then this, dude, here was one that I was like, this is kind of stunning

that it's a kid's movie. Is this Professor Flux? Yes. This is the best joke of the movie. And it's Steve Coogan is Professor Flux. And it's dark man. Yeah. Yeah. Where he's just like, I go into the future and I take my future self back with me

to help work on the project that I'm working on. And they slam one of the clones, like, head into a door or something. And then it's like, oh, that was the original guy and they all start disappearing. Oh, that's funny. While he lies limply dead on the floor. Yes. Just fold it over.

You watch a human die of a traumatic brain injury in minions. Yes. Yeah, his neck is snapped and also credit to Steve Coogan like a very funny guy. Like he's doing a voice and a performance. And to their credit, so are Michael Keaton and Alice and Janney to a degree.

Enough that I was like, is that Michael Keaton? Yeah. versus, I mean, you just hear Sandy and it's, here's Sandra Bullock. And here she is, by the way, Scarlett Overkill giving the keynote address at Villancon. Paid 10 million American dollars for this performance.

What's that right? She had the Oscar, man. She could just, you know, that's the price. And I mean, like, and that's always the question. And I'm sure you guys talk about this, Bob and Henry on your show when you talk about movies when you do what a cartoon. I'm always confused as to like,

so the minions are going to make a billion dollars. Not no matter what, but like, if it's the market. and like blah blah blah the kids are going to go see it there is no human being that is like i will not see that oh wait sandra bullocks in it i will see that that does not exist right so why spend 10 million dollars of your budget to get somebody who's also not a voice actor is also the part i i i'm sandra balk is one of those actors who has like a a cult who is obsessed with seeing and and and supporting her through all her roles i think i think that she's one of those types

that they'll just, the name is on the fucking poster, we're seeing that movie. It doesn't fucking matter what it is. I also feel that, I mean, the parents already are buying the tickets because their kids want to see the movie, but a casting like this does feel like an olive branch to the parents where if you don't like the cartoon antics,

think of Sandra Bullock, think of speed, it will get you through this. Yeah, I think there's, I mean, Robin Williams was the one who like broke this for American animation. And then people realized that that could bring them in. And different studios have different approaches. Like DreamWorks was so in your face of we cast Will Smith in this and the fish looks exactly like him.

So you really can think about it. But my feeling with illumination is that they, I blame this on them being French, of course. But they're like 10 years behind on what are popular American sitcoms. Like it's why it, you know, or five to 10 years. It's why they got, they finally started getting office reruns. So they wanted Steve Correll. I think in the most recent Dispicable Me,

they had Will Ferrell in it finally, and I'm like, you're casting Will Ferrell who is still funny and all that, but he's like in the 60s, now Will Ferrell. So what you're saying is this, miscongeniality just arrived on their shores in 2012.

And same with Mad Men. Same with Mad Men too. Like, yeah, that's what they've heard of. And that's also why they get Chris Pratt for Mario in like 10 years after Guardians of the Galaxy. That's an interesting.

Yeah, I hadn't thought. but it all that all absolutely scans. It's weird though with the Sandy thing because it's like for a movie like this because the draw is the minions. So like I don't remember the previews of this or whatever but they were like, were they saying things like

and Sandra Bullock? Oh 100%. I remember that very much. Is that like Sandra Bullock. I'm not sure if it was like the whole trailer was about her but they definitely made a point of like and now Sandra Bullock's with the minions.

And I'm like, oh, great, fantastic. I just want to know what afternoon she recorded a lot of it on and if she put her Starbucks down at any point. I doubt it. She probably had to come in for re-recorded at least two other afternoons. I also wish they, in the background of that, or right before the flux joke, there's a little background joke of like,

oh, there's a young group for like one second. I kind of wish that was the only young group you saw on. It was like a little tease. I totally missed it entirely. That would be nice. Apparently, just from the IMPD trivia, a lot of villain con, which again, that could also be a movie

if you want to make villain con, you know, that makes sense with the despicable me universe, et cetera. And there's a lot of like different characters from the despicable meaverse floating around in there. Yes, I see. I think to the this,

the stuff matter being the like breaking the glass ceiling and all that, it's not, it is being presented in a then current view of like a girl boss as opposed to it should be marketed how they marketed a feminist character in the in 1968. That also is like I think there's better comedy

and now obviously every note I am giving makes this movie make less money like that's trying to try to talk them out of making more money. 10,000 people just walked out Henry thanks to your notes. She again this is something for like the dads that were paying attention

that afternoon at the theater. She's like, debuts like flying around on like this little jetpack or whatever it is. She has a flying dress later in the movie but I don't know that that's this but whatever.

She flies up like to the ceiling and we see this like it's a camera down shot looking at her and she just does a little like tit adjustment real quick. She's not not sexy. Let's really put that out there. They want to make sure the guys are rushing over to devian art after they go to the movies, you know.

I mean I just keep it open at all times. And she also basically basically, basically gives Kevin a J-O-I as well. I misreported Stewart as the horny one. Kevin is popping one over here. Yeah. Because he's like daydreaming about, because her whole thing is like,

I want a new henchman or whatever. I'm selecting new henchmen. And then all of a sudden it's like, I select the minions. But it turns out it's a Kevin daydream. And you can tell it's a daydream because he's, yeah, he's popped a little minion boner right there.

Oh, no. But then the, who can steal the ruby from my hand? and she's got all this cool karate stuff and like, yeah, it's just send her bullet going, hiya, hiya, hiya, hiya. This is a great example of the animation, not meeting the vocal performance.

No, and it's fun animation. The camera is going all around them. It's very fluid. It's a good long shot. This is the best stuff in the minors, it's not the voice acting or necessarily the plot as a whole, but a scene in which, okay, this one woman has to take out 20 different villains

to all attack her in a different way. That's interesting. I like that. And you're following the teddy bear that Bob is chasing the whole time, like in the foreground. Like, this is, it is well, I just think, I don't want to blame the French on this again, but, like, dialogue is not their strong suit in this stuff. It's, it's the, it is the silly movement and saying things that are no language at all. I mean, there's a, on the cutting room floor, there is a scene where fucking Mr. Reynolds,

or whoever the villain dad was, has to stop Kevin from doing an upskirt video while she's flying around. I do like there's a funny thing where Michael Caten's character is so fucking hype for this woman. He hugs, who I believe is the Grim Reaper in the audience. And the Grim Reaper dies from being hugged, which is a funny turn of events. And you know what? I like they're rooting for their minion pals the whole time. Like they are not, they're their friends. They, they, I wonder how many, were the Nelson's just in this one scene or then, and

they decided later like, you know, let's cut to the Nelsons again. This like overkill, Scarlett Overkill is beef in here. We need to cut to the Nelson again. I mean, we have Michael Keaton. We should have him again, right? Yeah, it shouldn't be just three minutes, right? Yeah, we could use them again. I do like, so Kevin tries to call

back to be like, hey, we got this job working for this lady because Bob grabbed the Ruby, but the minions can't answer the phone because they're all singing make them laugh from singing in the rain for these saskwatches that they're living with? Isn't this the way these fucking minions, they come over, they get a job, and they start sending money home, and now all the minion fucking

buddies are coming over, they're walking back. Speak on it. Speaking in through the water. Yeah, sneaking in through the water on boats. It's dangerous. But the minions, initially they don't want to come to London because they've got this new

boss, which is the head Sasquatch here, but then a huge ice particle falls on this thing and crushes it to death. Again, just the fucking body count on these minions. It's wild. Did they do the Littlefoot movie Bob and Henry or did they not? I think is that,

so there's three competing Yeti animated films. One is by Lika. I'm not sure if another one is by Illumination. Do you know this, Henry? Missing Link was Lika. That one I don't remember, but the let's see here, yeah.

Which was the one that advertised and Zendaya as Mici. Yes, that's what I'm thinking of Yeah, that was Littlefoot, I think. Though your first, when you said Littlefoot, I was like, oh wait, no, that's... I think it might be Smallfoot because Littlefoot is the Land Before Time character. That's right.

That's how I'm getting it. It is Smallfoot. That is a Warner Animation Group picture. So the people that brought us into the Spider-Verse. Okay, so they're imitating illumination in that thing. Okay, yes. So we get to London and we meet the... Scarlet Overkill's husband, Herb Overkill. This is John Hamm, who,

speaking of, like, the animation not fitting the vocal performance, the character design does not fit the vocal performance. This guy, this herb, first of all, Herb Overkill, Herb, that's like an old man's name. This guy's drawn like he's a member of the strokes. I don't understand this character design. I think he's supposed to be a 60s hipster guy. But also he's like a mod, so this is my other big complaint.

Scarlett and Her overkill should be British. Their bases in London. She grew up wanting to be the Queen of England. Now, they're not British because Sandra Bullock is, they're not making her do a British accent. Or do I want them to. They didn't want to hire a British actor. So it's Americans who have a base in England who want to take over the queen and all

the stuff. And they're designed to look British, in my opinion, too. They should just be British actors. I agree. It's a very bizarre choice. Because again, what are we doing in England at all? I mean, like, I guess because of the bizarre crown idea, but then like, just have them wind up in England at first.

Like, why did we have to get all the way around here? Yeah, maybe like England was the first up and then we go to New York and that's the movie or something like that. I feel that in this movie, whenever we see a British person, we are entering the big book of British smiles. These Frenchmen are not kind to British teeth in this movie. So if Scarlett and Herb, rather, were British, they'd have these big chomper's in their mouths.

and it would be appealing. Yeah, that's true. So, Sandra, we want you to do an accent. What's that? An accent? I'm not aware of what, what's that? Well, you know who you had right there? And he would have done a fantastic job as Herb overkill's fucking Steve Coogan.

Yes, he's right. Yeah. Like, come on. He's in, he's Professor Flux. And then he's like the Tower Guard. He's got the two funniest bits in the movie. But that just lets you know that he should be in more of the movie, you know? Because yeah, it's the ham thing where like, I agree with you, Henry.

I think that I think he's a fine comedic actor, but like I think so much of his comedic poise is like, could you believe John Hamm is doing comedy? I'm like, it's been 20 years. I can believe it. There was a roast in this Saturday Night Live 50th anniversary where credit to him being self-deprecating.

He like, he stands up and asks Tina Faye like, am I funny? And then she's like, you know what? You say yes. And that's the most important part. I will say in the past 11 years, John Ham has gotten better at voice acting. he is the sort of villain in the Pixar movie Hoppers

or Disney movie Hoppers. Oh, is that right? But he does a fine job to the point where I didn't know it was him and I wasn't annoyed. So, congrats to John Hamm for that. That reminds me too, Bob. He's also a sort of villain in Transformers 1 and is pretty good in that too, I'll say. Is he a Decepticon or is he John Hamm? Well, see, this is the origin of the Autobots and the Decepticons.

It predates that in the history of, Cybertron and he is the he is the leader of Cybertron there and actually he's like secretly working by the scene guess what it's a it's directed by the director of Toy Story 4 Transformers 1 is good but it does hit the beats of

oh it's a Pixar secret villain in my Transformers movie got it so yeah this is we see their house or whatever and she's like this is all the magnificent stuff we've stolen over the years and we've got the Warhol soup can painting here the little floating castle they have this

very Super Mario 64 Princess Peach Castle, which is interesting for the imagination folk, you know. But so her whole thing is like, yeah, she wants to steal the queen's crown because, yes, for reasons this American girl

wanted to be the queen of England growing up. I mean, that's the most I like Scarlet Overkiller. I think her best game in her jokes are mentioning that she was like a hated little girl and porn and all that

and that's what drove her. She has like a good villain backstory that they could have dealt with a little bit more. Yeah. You know, it's animation. Like, you could quickly cut to a scene where I'm seeing that.

I'm seeing her getting bullied by, maybe that's the thing. She got bullied by some like British girl at school and she hates the British and she wants to take over the crown to destroy the kingdom or something like that. Just show us her. It's little,

you know, little Sandra Bullock getting bullied or whatever. American kids are obsessed. there's, I mean, an obsession with Britain and the royals in America. So I can see there being an addiction there and being like, oh, Princess Die and all that stuff. But like, yeah, you get so close to her being a character

when you get into the origins of where she came from. But then you give it up immediately. Like, I would have loved to have more scenes with Herb and her. But then, of course, Sandra Bullock has to do more. And I don't want to tell her to do that. Right. So they got to go into the tower. of London to steal the crown here and Herb hooks them up with some very important gadgets here,

a stretch suit, a lava gun, and a mind control helmet of some kind. They get in a lava lamp joke and like it's they hit the things. But yes, these these apparatuses also, they fit with Despicable Me, but once you said it in 1968, like it is so that just, this is a year after Austin Powers is frozen in his universe. They should swing by. Basil Exposition could have appeared in this. Yes, exactly. Yeah, big time.

I do like this old lady at the ticketing booth for the Tower of London refusing to sell them tickets so they come back as three minions in a trench coat, which is very funny. And the ones goggles make a rock and rack on this fake minion lady. I did like that. I did like the bit that they do the three minions in a trench coat, except it's a girl that people are gawking at. Like that's, I also, oh yeah, in the in Ham's thing, they also set up the machine.

They at least do set up the machine that will be used later. Yes. I like that. The minions are extremely cute as three little piggyies in that story. Oh, yes. Oh, the story. Yes, I forgot about that. Scarlett tells them a bedtime story.

So she does the three little pigs. But the minions are the pigs and Scarlett is the wolf. And basically it's like, if you don't steal this crown, I'm going to huff and puff and fucking kill your minion asses. I'm sorry, I mailed this two minutes ago. I shaned the minion, baby. There you go. I'll take it. Put that anywhere, man. You could.

But yeah, the minions are all kind of shitting the bed after she tells them their story here. And basically they get in and like they're using the stuff. You know, the lava. The hypnithing, oh, we get the big long hair sequence because is it, Bob has the

hypno hat. Hipno hat. And he makes them sing and the Bobby's sing and dance. And they're not even really doing, they sing it in Minionese. It'd be kind of funny if they were singing English. They were singing Minionese kind of a thing.

Exactly. And I don't even want to say like the finger thing means the money because like, you're clearly blowing through money so it didn't matter. But yeah, seeing human beings singing in Minionese was very strange. I would have liked us here the version because this was the one I was like, what are they singing? Oh, really?

Hair, I guess, I haven't, I've never seen hair. So, uh, I, I just didn't. That's the, that's also the level of the joke, too, of the guys, they, they all strip off because I think this is the song where everybody gets naked on stage in hair as well. Yes, I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Long, beautiful hair. Minion, minion hair. They have three or four depending, you know. Oh, that's true. Yeah. They're not totally bald. And this, then they, they,

they run into the old and blind beef eater again. Steve Coogan, funny. He's funny. Oh yeah, I love this. The old man who's Wait, is this the guy with the crown? Well, he's protecting the crown. And he puts the crown on like the weird like super elevator thing.

Yeah, it goes down to the queen's garage because she's going to put it on here because she's going for a ride and got to have the crown on when you're going through horse and carriage or whatever here. And so this is, we go for a ride. We're chasing her at this point. We're chasing the queen.

This is, you better believe the kinks, you really got me. Just why the fuck not, everybody? No one's heard this before. It's been a few minutes. It's a song. We need to hear one. I forgot what decade it was. I think if you're a grandpa taking your little kid to see this movie and like, you're watching

it and you really got me. And you just remember when you were like 16 and that song fucking lit your ass on fire. And now you're just like, these little fucking banana things are just running around my child. man. I got the most amazing blow job of my life to that. Exactly. It was awesome. Look, man, you got the boat that rocked that nobody saw. And that had the kinks all over it. So you know what? Now the minions get to have and piss all over it.

Hair was playing as people were overturning police cars in the street. Exactly. And now culture is dabbing on us. I do love this. The queen's been kidnapped, Saug. And you got this, they cut to this. police car, there's a little tiny guy driving and the big cop is sitting shotgun

and he's got like a ceramic tea set that he's pouring in the high speed chase. Oh, I mean, all of these like French versus England jokes that we're getting like they do, it's a rivalry much older than the country of America. So it's fun to still

see it coming through in this billion dollar movie. This is the part where like, you know, the lamest thing you could say about any creative artist. What were they smoke it. You know what I mean? Like that that old critique. But the idea that in

this world, not only the vampires exist, Arthurian legend is, it's this bizarre like man in the high castle alternate version of England where the Arthurian legend is well known. Like anyone can go up to the sword and the stone at any time

and they have been trying since a millennia. It's bizarre that this turn happens. And it's not even like, that should be the movie then. Like Merlin should show up. You're right, Steve. This is the premise for a different Minions movie entirely. And it appears in the middle of

this origin story. Yeah. Yes. No, I, this, we've covered, we just covered Reckett Ralph and we've covered a lot of many of the Pixar films. And when we talk about those, we hear so much in the making of like, oh, we were so

interested in the story. Or like, oh, the story didn't work here or there and we had to change this. And this is where it just feels so slapdash like a minion grabs the sword and the stone and then he's like the king yeah all right yeah that's amazing is on top of this existing right the sword of the stone he pulls out or whatever the policy is still intact

Bob has made king of king of England I think he she's knighted at the end Kevin with Excalibur Excalibur is just walking around this movie it's fucking wild dude and now I because I just recently watched Excalibur for the first time. I want to see John Borman's minions. Tell me what that movie looks like. Hell yeah. Really dark.

Really dark. An eerie mist going around. I would like to see some obscure minions. They'd look cooler. You know what I mean? Totally. And you're right, Steve. It is fucked up that Merlin is nowhere to be found. If you're going to give us Excalibur and the sword of the stone, they got to befriend Merlin at some point.

Merlin's helping him out, this, that, and the other thing. Because he's a wizard and he can live forever. He's still alive in 1968. Why not? And also, don't worry, parents, your children will learn nothing. You're not going to learn about actual British parliamentary procedure, what the political situation is in England. No, it's fucking bullshit from end to end. Yeah.

And I honestly, since you've said, I mean, thank you, Steve. Because if that is true, then you can fit in a baga-a-a-square like a pig. Sure. And then, you know, you get your boorman. That's my boorman. I do like this newscaster character that they have who's announcing that Bob has done this feat and he's like Bob, who appears to be a bold

jaundiced child I laughed at that, yeah. It turns it to King Ralph for like seven minutes. It does. It's like it does. We're taking time off. It's King Minion, which again is a different movie. Yep, absolutely. Yeah, Bob pulls a sword out and unlocks the power of an earlier

draft of the screenplay. It also feels like an improv. game to the, or you're watching an improv scene on stage where they talk themselves into a King Bob and then they have to pause and a character goes like, nope, remember I wanted to be the queen. And like, okay, we, we touch to the court and you are queen now. Yep. Because it's just, it's fun King Minion. We'd finally get to see a good juicy minion ass at a thong.

I believe this is Stewart before he gets in the hot tub and he wants to fuck two fire hydrants. I imagine he does. Oh, right. Yeah, he's ready to go with those two fire hydrants, one on each arm. So we, we earlier in the movie see a bottomless minion, totally smooth from the front, the one who puts on the starfish. Yes. Then this shows that a thong could shape a minion's butt into a butt shape, but do they have like an anus? That is still the question. Yeah, we have to determine that at least.

I think, yeah, that's still out for debate. And also, like, as far as, like, minion guilt goes, right? Like, they are more concerned with the top section of shit. Yeah, it's true. There's, like, the gag, I think it's maybe towards the end, like, in the credits when everybody's having fun, where, like, the minions naked and he's got the starfish over his crotch. And then he's, like, horrified. And he puts it up over his tits.

And I was like, oh, well, if you're more concerned about your rack, then maybe there's nothing there for you to be concerned about. It's an excellent question. Maybe science will get to the bottom of its. someday. What are you going to do with those big thumbs? It's got to go somewhere in your body. It does have to go somewhere, Chris. What are you doing with your big thumbs? You know, by the way, speaking of the notion of this

is barely feature length, one of the ways we're really stretching out is we cut back to the other minions journeying to England, and we get a three-stop montage here where they go to Australia and you see a minion riding in a kangaroo. That's disgusting. You see minions go. going to India, they do some dancing.

That's surprisingly inoffensive. And then the minions, they fucking walk through the set of the faked moon landing. That's also what we're saying in this world, which I guess worked out well because apparently in the French version of this, Marian Cotillard and her husband did the voices of Sculler Overkill and Herb Overkill. So she must have been like, fine. Actually, the minions have a lot of good points. Look, it's right there.

It's right there. Hey, minions, what is your opinion about whether or not jet fuel can melt steel beams? Has 5G come to America, minions? Oh, dude, 5G makes the minions if you ask wearing a Cottero. No, I totally have first-hand account. There is a friend of mine. She was pregnant. She had 5G on her phone.

She gave birth to a minion. It happened. He's Stuart right there. I will take you. them to comedy court too that they then do that the letter song which is that's a fine enough one and then straight to my generation like another the most

obvious Brit pop or Brit rock they could use like and we're about to hit the monkeys up next in this tour of the 60s but so King Bob welcomed at Buckingham Palace he demands that all of the beef eaters dress like minions which is

kind of cute buddy feels more at home I guess they're playing around with the corgis which Like, that's cute too. That's nice. I do love that they have ousted Queen Elizabeth from the castle, but kept her dogs. The poor woman.

She's barely getting wasted at the pub all this whole time. I do love that moment, right? Because it's like, you always think like, oh, like, what do these people think of like one day they just woke up and none of their monarchy stuff happened? Like, would she just go out? Now I can drink with the boys. I don't think it would happen.

I think she'd fucking kill herself. I mean, that's the thing. after this situation, the monarchy has to be done away with. I agree. After all of this, it's got to go. There's just no way. They were doing this when Queen Elizabeth was still alive, too. So maybe they're being like more nice on this to not be, you know, removed from. Well, and this would have been after like the queen and the king's speech, like all of the sucking off the royals movies. But pointedly, she had tea with Paddington, but not Stuart.

were Kevin or Bob. So it was a stuff. It's fucked up. That's fucked up. But yeah, so they're running through Buckingham Palace.

Yes, the Who's my generation playing? Yeah, we're playing polo with the corgis. I think that's pretty funny. This is very like

dream logic. And then now I was the King of England, but then I came back because I remembered the other part. You know what I mean? And then I said to the president.

Because, Scarlet Overkill shows back up, back up, but she's like, hey, remember I'm in the movie. They paid me $10 million. I mean, she's just like pushing a gun in the king of England's face. I mean, this is like, it's whatever, but I was like, how did these two terrorists get into Buckingham Palace and point a gun in the king's face? I know he's a minion, but he's still the king of England.

That's true. You got respect him. You have to respect him. Oh, man, I would have done anything to be, get me like just a recording of like the first showing of this in England. Oh, I prefer King Bob to what we got now. I'll tell you that. Oh, yep. Absolutely, dude.

A lot of chortling. Yeah, and I mean, also fucked up hands, King Charles. Those are fucked up hands. Those are big thumbs. Jesus Christ. What's he sitting on? But yeah, so the whole, dude,

Bob fucking folds like laundry and he's like, all right, I'll just change the laws of England myself as king's decree allows me to do. And I'm going to pave the way for Scarlet to just take over and become the queen. All right. The smash cut to the House of Commons also did give me a chuckle. It was pretty funny.

It is funny hearing a stuffy British voice like King Bob. It's fine, but I mean, I guess because, again, the minions want to live to serve. Yes. I just don't feel like that is ever investigated in a way in a movie kind of way where it's like oh do they realize that she's too evil for them and you know what I mean

like that they should reject her at some point would make some kind of sense. In the big battle at the end they give you a beat of Kevin must choose his friends or her but they set up none of that

in the movie at all. This is the space to question the logic of minions but it's told to us that they require a leader to dominate them to find happiness, they now rule the country. They're perfectly fine. Yes. Right. They don't do anything. I mean, I guess it's that desire, that six, submissive desire that

lives in all these minions. You know what? I give them, it takes a lot, like people, they search their whole lives and they don't know. But these guys know, they're subs. They know that. I give that to them, that they just know that in their hearts. So as revenge here, Scarlet, lacks them. in the basement dungeon here, and this is Herb has like a Gimp mascot pretending to be the executioner,

which is kind of funny. And he's saying his name is Blurb, not Herb, which is sort of fun. I mean, John Hemp's doing his best here. It's just, it's underwritten and he's just not, none of it works. They give him so many, like, lame old lie or just like such easy, like when he goes, like, he, when he first meets them, he's like listing off nicknames.

It's like, I've heard this a million times. Like, this is just like such boilerplate, comedy of the, of that era that it, Yeah. No, I mean, like, yeah, it's not Ham's fault. Like, you could put Coogan or like James Acosta in there and it would still suck. Like, it just wouldn't work. Yeah. Coogan might have said, no, that sucks. I'm not doing that. I can make up something funnier right now. Exactly. How about I say this instead and you'll record that and put it in your movie. I do like, they're being like, they're on like the stretch rack right here. And like this is where they try to hang him, hang one of them. And like, I do like, I do like. the silhouette, like we're not seeing the action happen, but we are seeing the after effect, which is just slides because he doesn't have

a real neck, he's just a pill-shaped thing. It's fun that the minions are sentenced to death, you can say it, it's fun. It is. Because I do appreciate that, like, they start having fun with the news, and it's kind of like they're playing with, like, an instrument of suicide in a way, like, it's very, very

fucked up for a kid's movie. Yeah, and the scene ends with one of them in an electric chair, like smiling happily, too. So we get this bit. I wanted to mention it because the character design is very funny. But so Scarlett is sort of getting ready for her big, you know, coming out ceremony or debut as the queen or whatever. And you got this hairstylist named Fabrice.

The only reason I bring them up is this character design. They just, someone was watching old porno and they were like, I'm going to make this Fabrice guy look exactly like Ron Jeremy. He does indeed. He looks like the hedgehog himself, dude. I couldn't believe it. I like his note to her of like, well, I can't make your hair literally look like wavy lines. Meanwhile, the minions are escaping the torture dungeon because there's a very obvious grate in the middle of the floor that they make their way down to.

And I got to say, much as we want to see Bormons, the minions, when they pop up into the funeral, I was like, Mike Lee's minions tomorrow. I want it tomorrow. Get it on to it now. Yep. Granddad got killed because there was a robbery at the shop and he tried to stop the guy and he got shots. So we're at Granddad's funeral, the sad Mike Lee movie. Secrets and minions. Secrets and minions. I do.

Yeah, you'd have to get them with like dirtier clothes, I guess. Would be like some like 90s windbreakers kind of a situation. Spaghetti. They're getting a lot of cheap spaghetti. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, English spaghetti. Kill me now.

If minions show up at your funeral, they just want food and they'll go. So there's a big call attention to them. Classic minion move at funerals. They just show up for the free food at the reception. Like total scumbags. Take these fucking crackers. Another, again, this movie, I think it's much. We'll talk about it in recommendations.

I think it's the best of the despicable means that I've seen. I like the joke of stealing the funeral reith as a way to apologize to scholar it over-kill. By the way, we, at the end, of that sequence of the with the stylist, Herb comes in with a fun, this is the super dress that she's going to wear for the rest of the movie that is kind of a Dr. Robotnik dress, which is

fun. Oh, good call, yeah. But we need to put her in a corset first, and we need to let everybody know, this lady's getting really squeezed into this thing. Oh, pull it! She's saying, pull it over and over again, and I'm like, all right, dad.

You're in it. Here's the thing. Your suspicions are confirmed, though, dude, because This is going on. Yeah, pull it, pull it. Yeah, tighter, you can do it, whatever. There's the shot of the servant walking in with like a thing, a tea or whatever. And he backs out like, like you just walked in on two people having sex. Exactly.

It's the same reaction. If you just walked in on two people going to Poundown Town, you'd be like, yeah. And that's exactly what this guy does with the bodice tightening. Yeah, I mean, when those kidneys touch, it's doing it for someone. This is also when the movie, I think, they're too greedy for toys in this because Tim the bear, the Tim the Teddy Bear, you've got your toy. You're going to sell a million of them. But he also has to have a cute rat to also sell. And Bob has both of them.

Like, can't, can't Stewart have the rats or somebody else? You're totally right. I forgot about the little rat friend that. I genuinely wonder if they made a toy out of the little guitar that Stewart has. I wouldn't put it past them. It's an accessory on the Stuart Minion toy. That's one of the things you can attach on him maybe. And now we're going to the Queen's Coronation.

Not in dialogue, but you just kind of have to infer it that no English people went to this, but only the villain con did because they were so excited that one of their own was becoming the Queen of England. All of that is inferred. The Pope is there, at least. Well, I guess he could be at Bill & Ponte. No, he's not the Pope. It's the head of the Church of England, whoever that is. It's most certainly not the Pope.

Well, we also missed the biggest bullshit Forrest Gump garbage moment of this movie is how they get out of the sewer to the coronation, and they're right on the crosswalk of Abbey Road. Oh, boy. Whoever is last in the line of Beatles jumps on the manhole covered. Oh, my God, I hated that so much. And you get the little harmonica of Love Me Do,

Just to let you know in case you didn't get it. Yeah, in case anyone was fucking confused. Do you think legal told them, stay zoomed in on the feet? We don't want caricatures. This could be any four men crossing the street. Yeah, totally right, Bob. Now I'm going back to it. I have to confirm if Paul is barefoot in it or not, actually.

Oh, I need to see. I didn't think. Let's see, okay, so we got white feet. We got the white shoes first of Lenin. Now I'm getting an ad. Oh, I'll get back to you, Peacock. I'll get back. Okay, wait. So yeah, we got the white shoes of Lenin.

Then, yeah, it does look like George. No, nobody's barefoot. Oh, wow. Four gentlemen crossing the street. That's all it is. Do you think all four of San Mendez's Beatles movies will coalesce around them meeting the minions? I hope so. That's just better. Each one will have this scene in it.

At least you can get away with it in the Ringo one for sure. That's the one where you get a free pass. You can do whatever the fuck you're like. You're filling time, dude. You got time to fill it. in that Ringo movie. Look at the yellow fellow. They would love Octopus's Garden.

That will happen in hour four of each movie. I love the Beatles, but this is just a huge waste of resources. These four movies, man. It's a disaster. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. They got to be, seeing what Michael did, I think they're thinking they're going to make four times that. Yeah, and imagine what the box office would have been at the four of them were child fuckers.

That's a really good point. And the thrilling, exciting filmmaking of Sam Mellon. Mendez? Are you kidding me? Well, I'll tell you, if it's anything like literally every other Sam Mendez movie, you're going to get to the third act of every Beatles movie that's going to shit the fucking bed right there. Yeah. It must be that he like, the Bond movies impress those British people so much. They're like, we can hand you the Beatles.

We can trust you with that. You did Bond right. We'll trust you that too. You don't even let him do, like, it just, there's so much shit that's been made around the Beatles. Like, you can't let him do the Kinks movie that hasn't been made. Like, I don't like any of these fucking movies. but like at least do one for someone. I don't know the story of the Kings at all.

I've heard the story of the fucking Beatles 25 fucking times via film and I just, I'm done with it, man. Plus before these four fucking movies come out. You're not done yet by four. You've got eight hours to talk about. Eight hours at least, man. So yeah, the coronation happens.

The minions lay waste to the church by knocking down a huge chandelier here, which is kind of funny. I do like the animation here as they're like chasing and running on it and it's unscrewing itself from the chain holding it up which is pretty cool. That's great stuff. That is great cartoony like it's Laurel and Hardy comedy there.

Yeah. When people aren't talking I'm having a generally okay time. But it falls right on Scarlet and you're kind of like fucking rat. Is this movie over? Well because so many characters have died by crushing in this movie that it did make me actually like oh is I guess she's just dead now and like Herbs the enemy in this. shocking that she is not killed in this film i think herb suffocates at the end we're not clear on that but she survived somehow yeah uh this this ship bursts out of the ground yes very dr robotnick very uh eggman

kind of device here and demand she demands that the minions be executed which is my favorite line of the movie yeah we all want this for them but they're unkillable unfortunately the uh yeah i think the the the bit that she is alive though then it's seems like the the the nelson family they side with the minions which i guess that shows they're like true blue to the minions but they are such scarlet fans i thought they would they would fall into what scarlet wanted agree with her yeah or it just shows you the power of the minions or the nelson saved the day that's sort of something right actually they don't do anything yeah you're right if it's oh just in the darkest hour i'm glad that we got a ride with those fun nelson's you

know what i mean that that that actually is a much better story that they come back in it and help them now and they get in it and Oh, need another ride, guys. Boom. Boy, that's a better story beat. Because instead, what we have here is basically like any time someone's putting the hit out on John Wick. Yes. And all the fucking hitmen come after John Wick because it's all the villains come after the minions.

I wrote some of them down. You have Big Russian. Clown guy. A couple of lepracons. Sumo guy. Viking guy. And then Gilman comes back and grabs Bob right here. Viking guy.

Well, not, there is. one Conan the barbarian guy who looks like Sergio Argonus's grew. I don't know if that's like a fun little reference. Also the wrestling guy who was in the earlier part of the movie who's also here at least in a couple of seeds.

Point of order, that's not what wrestlers looked like in the 60s. That's what wrestlers look like in the 80s and that really bugged me a lot for some reason. I got the Sting style man with the face paint and the chainsaw. Yeah, exactly. Just not. He would look like a big fat trucker in the 60s. He could have short, curly hair.

and would look disgusting. That's how they love. There's another guy. They're gym teachers. That's what they look. Yeah. There's another guy who looks like Grazer Ramon.

And I nearly lost it. I was like, can you do that more? No, he's just in the background. Fuck it. No. Or like there's the chainsaw guy with like the misfits

white paint face face. These are all. You're going to set your movie. So specifically in 1968, then then enjoy that. Then enjoy it. Live in it. Yeah.

But they all kind of, the two minions get caught kind of off screen. right, like they're about to get got, but you don't really see them get got, right? Well, one of them gets got by the Gilman by that goes into the puddle, right? Oh, that's right. He sucks up underwater. Yeah, Bob

is grabbed there. I don't know that at some points. Stuart is trapped in the fat man. Correct? Oh, right. Oh, that. That counted as him getting caught. That got him. Oh, okay. Kevin gets chased into a pub

after that. This is where the queen is arm wrestling and getting wasted at the bar, which is pretty funny. Should have mentioned, by the way, Speaking of Shrek, this is Jennifer Saunders as the queen. Oh, really? She's doing a great job. Which is why it's good. Yeah. Again, another four-liner. Set her as Scarlet Overkill. You make Scarlet Overkill

British, now we're having fun. We've got an actual British woman doing it. She's a comedian. We are edging up towards rapping granny jokes. She is about to haul assalalala paloosa. But the vocal performance is winning me over so I can excuse that. I do like it. Yeah. She's in this pub, having a couple pines, having the famous British meal fried slop, which I do believe.

You know, I had a little bit while I was over there. It's not bad. It's an English breakfast, my friend. It's fried slop with beans next to it. I love her big, her big buck teeth design is very funny. And that also that, yes, a person who in her place has never talked to a commoner ever in her life without guards around her. They, their comedic is it is actually she's super strong and a man of the, a woman of the people. Like she can chat with all of them. Yeah, you want to have a beer with this person, exactly. But she doesn't say, she also, like the Nelson's like, oh, now you want my help or whatever.

And I'm like, oh, is the queen going to get out? No, we're just, we're not going to do that. Because that, dude, that would have been kind of funny. Like, they literally partner up with the queen of England to take this later. That's kind of funny. That's at least something. She gets her crown back, you know? She's got motivation.

Exactly. Dude, so Kevin sneaks back into the Princess Peach Castle here. And there is a moment where again, I'm like, it's 1968. You're doing references that haven't happened, which is all over this movie. But like he fucking makes himself up like Rambo 2 right here. He's doing the bandana. You're getting the whole fucking like arming himself. But then like he's, he's Gremlin's gizmo here.

Yes, big time. Big time. And it's all for nothing because then this is he just accidentally backs into this machine that makes him as big as the State Puff Marshmallow man. I guess they if I could think of a 60s thing that they could have just done as the equivalent just do you know like the well just the James Bond getting outfitted with his stuff from Q moment with this just to stay timely or for the setting but exactly instead how about oh my God it's a giant Kevin oh hell yeah dude step on me minion step hide you Kevin it'd be great if this was set up in any way is what I want to say sorry I think I saw what you're going to say, Henry. No, no, yes. He says her earlier tells them, don't go in that thing.

That's all we get. That thing could have done anything. Yes. And him being a kaiju, yeah, not set up at all. But the Bob and Stewart are tied to the world's biggest pile of dynamite. And there's a huge fuse that's lit. We get a huge gag of like giant Kevin. picks them up but he can't get the fuse to be put out.

And then we have an honest to goodness, is this minion pissing on his friends? Yes. Oh, yeah. Holy shit, because it's like, oh, the fuse, they're going to blow up, what's going on? And then the way that they frame it, it's very intentional and obvious. You can't see the source of the splash,

but everybody's wet and what's going on. And then he turns, and we have turned up a fire hydrant, and that's what's making the water go. It's a minion shower is what it is. Yeah, absolutely. Because also, I don't even know, what minion piss looks like, it could be clear like water. I don't know what's going on.

Actually, Steve, I was thinking Kevin is remarkably well hydrated. That's what I was thinking when I was seeing the stream of piss. We could all wish for that, you know? It's the older we get. No, and I like the, I kind of like the kaiju, my favorite of the kaiju comedy

is Kevin very daintily trying to not knock over any building. Like, he's kind of like, taking careful steps. Yeah. Yeah, sort of squeezing between them. And the only time I actually like didn't, I viewed Scarlett as a villain I wanted to see defeated. It was when she finally like, she steals Tim the bear and makes Bob cry. Like that's the one bit.

I was like, okay, now she actually feels like a villain I'm slightly invested in. And we have a fight back and forth with her big rocket dress and she's beating the shit out of giant Kevin. And then the army of minions show up right here. And the lava gun gets fired in front of them to sort of. have destroyed the street and they can't get away, one of these guys needs to get hit. And you don't have to kill him. I just want to see how a minion reacts when he falls into lava.

Maybe it's a minion skeleton he comes out and then like you see him regenerate back to full minion form. You think there's a skeleton in there? Absolutely not. It's like a rubber band ball in there, I think. It's all cartilage. That's exactly. That's where I was going.

I was thinking, my note on this, there's a mob of minions there. If Scarlet gets close to them, they are going Day of the Dead on her. They're just tearing her apart. Yes, dude. I love that. Like a fucking crash test dummy. Take them all off. There's a Tom Savini minion on a fucking motorcycle.

Yes. She's finally had enough of these minions, as we all feel most of the time. It's an understandable villain, for sure. Right there with her. But accidentally swallows Stewart. Does that, something happens. Oh, wait, no.

So they get shot. So he has to, Kevin carefully grabs each of them as they're about to fall. And then that's where Kevin must make his like big choice. But it's the only time they've even freight. Again, this is a beat that comes out of almost nowhere of. Kevin chooses to fight.

The first time a minion hits their leader back should matter more. Yes, totally. It's like Planet of the Apes. The first time one of them said no. Yes. Yeah, he He swallows a big old rocket, right? That's what it is.

Yeah, there's a huge rocket. She is a rocket. He swallows her, I think, is the idea for a second. You think that she's dead. He explodes. He's also like leaned over them, kissing them. And it's like the Truman Show shot of bent over Jim Carrey. Like they have.

This giant minion kissing them is very something around. I'll just say that. I'm going to see that placed on a sticker on the back. windshield of a car in my neighborhood at some point probably. And it's going to be like, my little son died and this is my tribute to him. This is me kissing him.

But it's minions. He loved the minions and now my kids did. And now he's just a sticker on the back of my car. I've said this before, but I will continue to say it. If I die tragically, unnaturally young, do not put an in-memorium sticker on the back of your car for me. I think that is

just one of the, I don't want to be remembered on the back of a car. You got it. buddy. No problem. I don't have a driver's license, so that's one down. So that's one safe. Your soul will be trapped inside of that sticker. You'll be pounding on the windshield as the sun beats down on you. Exactly, dude. It's like a fucking automobile phantom zone. I don't want to be there. But yeah, so the dress launches off. Kevin has swallowed the rocket. We're all going up here. There's a big explosion. And we think like this dude has sacrificed himself for his friends. And then a little debigined Kevin. He's back to normal side. parachutes down.

The pants suit didn't turn back to normal size. Just his nude minion body did. Thank God. Makes sense. Yeah, there's no real possible explanation for that. I mean, also, too, when he lands, he has Tim the Bear. It's like they forgot like, wait, no, he had Scarlett stole it from him. We never took it back.

Whatever. Kevin lands and he's got it. I took that as, I have a niece. and my mom actually got her this giraffe that she, it's a little stuffed giraffe that she loves. And I'm telling you like a week into her, because she gave it to her like right when Luna was born. And like so soon that thing got lost.

And like they called my mom in a pack like, where did you get this? We need to order more of these now. I just assume that Kevin has like 17 Timmy the Teddy Bears Bears ready to go for whenever Bob, of course he's going to lose it. or fuck it up or destroy it. It's like Maggie's Pacify.

Yes, absolutely. We re-buy the same toys for the dog. She remembers which ones they are. So we just re-buy the same ones. The queen is now very happy. She's back. We're knighting Kevin. Well, he's the last one.

First, Stuart gets a guitar. Or Bob gets the crown for the bear, which is cute. Yeah, a little toy crown kind of a deal. Yeah, Stuart gets a snow globe as a joke because I think they were like, Holy shit, 89 minutes. All right, maybe he gets a snow globe and then he gets his nice guitar. Okay, there we go. There's a 90 minute movie.

They have to get in their version of the Wizard of Oz ending. Yes, yes, yep. But then Kevin gets knighted here, which is with Excaliper, I guess, possibly. Very strange. I like the acting on Stewart of being disappointed at a bad gift, like yippy. Yes, yeah. Oh, and then he plays a. fucking van talk again. He plays Van Halen.

Like the Van Halen song. You're right. Yeah. More out of time things. And they didn't have the, at least the self-respect to make it a just fully back to the future joke. Yes. And being meaning ease, your kids are going to love it. Exactly. So the world celebrates the minions. Jeffrey Rush comes back in as the narrator here.

Scarlet and Herb steal the crown again for a second. They get shot with a freeze gun by wouldn't you know it. Baby Gru. That's when the kids, the kids are supposed to be tittering in the audience of media. When wait a freeze gun, that's Gru's famous weapon.

Yeah, and how many zeros are on the paycheck for Steve Carell here? Oh, my. Or just archive material. I'd say there's probably at least five zeros on that. Yeah, I think we're talking like,

probably like a couple hundred grand for him to just do his best. bad grew thing. Maybe maybe a million. Maybe it's just a thing like it's all wrapped into the three picture deal this counts. You know what I mean? You also get it. Now it's off the books. You know what I mean? Like, hey, this counts, Banya.

I was in it. Like that's all how how those MCU fucking things work. It's like, listen, I'll do your fucking cameo. I'll be in Spider-Man 19. But that's it. That's one less I owe you, you know? Exactly. Yeah. At least his role was small enough where he didn't have time to get bored. Unlike Sandra Bullock, who I feel is

opening candy crush while she is doing some of these lines. Yes. Oh, man. Fucking get over. No. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, we could use that. We can use that. Keep it. Keep it. It is fucking hilarious. There is a bit of like body horror at the end here because like herb is just completely frozen and like part of his leg is sticking out. So you're like, that guy's probably dead.

But then with with Sandy's character here, the face is partial. out of the ice, like she's stuck in a fucking Hellraiser column or something? It's body horror terror, dudes. And I guess the cute thing is Bob gives her the crown that he got, because he doesn't care, he's a fucking minion. They don't know what, they don't know what anything is. Well, they got the new, the boss anyway.

So he's like, fuck all y'all. I don't need your British toy, whatever. They run after him. That's it. This would make enough of a setup for like, and that's how they make grew, but this did so crazy good that then they knew they're like, well, then the next movie just did.

is the kid grew movie. That's the entire thing. The rise of grue, right? Am I correct? It is the rise of grew. But you got Jeffrey Rush at the end of this movie just, their new boss was perfect. He was disbicable. I'm like, I fucking get it. We're at 85 minutes and now we've got a lot of fun

credits coming up. It's basically the whole goddamn, there's a big old minion dance party here. The actual got to get you into my life is playing. Them and Gru were getting into fun little adventures. Because again, like, we're soft launching this Minions

Rise of Gru here. Like, people into this, I guess they are. Exactly. Yeah, they had some dude from the studio at the back of each theater seeing who stuck around. Yeah, the,

but note that he doesn't say any dialogue. Like, they got their two lines out of corral and then silent for all of the credit fun. Exactly. With a little grew.

Which culminates in the T-Rex from the beginning of the movie, coming face to face with Gru and Gru tries to like freeze Ray the T-Rex but like the fucking gun conks out and that's just like the end of the movie is a Tyrannosaurus Rex staring at baby Gru

all right okay I hear I'll compliment their obvious meal drops they didn't use mellow yellow until the credits. They didn't even know for anything else. It's good for them because that would have made a good minions hanging out montage song and yeah instead of

you know what it would have been better for my generation. I think it works that it's a better style for their chilling in the exactly. Yeah. And then yes, they sing Revolution. I should have listened closer to the Minionese version of Revolution because

if I could match it to the lyrics, I could find what is the Minian equivalent of Chairman Mal? Dude, I was like the same fucking thing when I was watching it. I was like, what is Minionese for Chairman Mao? So it's a 90 minute movie. You know, you go with your kids, you got your soda and you know, I

imagine parents can't leave. their kids in the theater if they have to go to the bathroom, right? So you got to wait until the end, and the kids aren't going to leave the middle of the movie. So the credits are on. You're like, okay, cool. And your kids are like, no, we have to stay. Like, fuck, okay.

All right. Yeah, that's fine. Now you're doing that white knuckle thing where you're just like, oh, my God, oh, my God. And now, like, are you fucking kidding me with the rebel? Shut up, minions. I need to piss. I need to piss. But we want to know how they say, Chairman Mao.

I don't get a fuck. Maybe you could get away with your kids young enough When Mellow Yellow starts You're like, well, that's the end We gotta go see The minions aren't on screen anymore It's over All the minions want to sleep

All the minions want to sleep We gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go Don't you little kids have to piss or something? Come on At that point you just let nature take over I'm gonna go to the bathroom If you're gone I'll just say you ran And then not culpable

But that is the end of minions We'll go around the horn here For some final thoughts and recommendations and we'll start with our beloved guests this week. Bob, what do you think? Here's a thing. Shockingly, I've watched three of these. Two in the past for this podcast,

the third one for this podcast, obviously. But this is the best one. And I went in groaning at the Universal Logo. I thought I would hate this. I ended up liking it just a little bit. And I will say, in this movie's favor, unlike the other two I watched, this book will be one and two.

They don't care about telling you stories about families or dads or togetherness or friendship. There's nothing. This movie wants to teach you nothing. it has nothing to offer. It just wants to jingle some minions in front of your face. And in that respect, it succeeds. So I will say, I don't want to explore this any further unless you invite us back on. But I feel like so far, this is the best use of minions. And I'll leave it at that. There we go, Henry. The more they get away from humans, the better in these because it gets them wet. The minions are funny and they're voiced by animators or directors of the movie. They're not voiced by famous people who are not trying so hard and cost millions. of dollars. Like this,

I would have preferred the challenge of, how about we make a movie entirely in minionese with no narrator, but these, yes, when the minions are ripping off the best of silent film stars, which is also what Bugs Bunny did. Like he did, they were doing the same.

Like, then that's when the minions are at their best. But yeah, it's the, it's them trying to do dream work style celebrity casting and NBC sitcom style humor that I'm just like, I just, I can't. And that, what a complete waste of the setting.

Like, as things said in 1968, they could have had so many more and better specifics. But, you know, I can't, that Bob, I just want to hug him. He's too cute. Thank you, Henry. Chris Cabin. Yeah, I mean, they wrapped it up pretty well. I like this the most out of all of them for sure. And I would also, if you're going to do this, I want the all-minoese, a movie for sure.

Because this movie is just trying to do Looney Tune stuff, and you should be putting as few barriers as possible between those two wanting. As much physical, you know, it's not real physical, but like physical comedy as you can in this animated film is what I'm looking for. And this movie does a good amount of it, even though I was groaning at least three quarters at that time. But yeah, I can't say I hate it all of it. There you go.

Steve Sadek. Yeah, no, it's easily the best of the bunch because, to Bob's point, the sacchariness has turned way down. But the problem is the lack of a coherent story does start to grade on one when you're kind of at minute 45

and you're like, I don't know what these things want or what they're doing. And again, like a fun 60-something minion minions go to Hollywood and they're bouncing around all these movie pairs, I guess, which I think is at least a little, a little bit of what minions and monsters. But that's the problem too. It's like minions in Hollywood and then monsters.

It's like just find a milieu explore it for 70 something minutes. These kids don't have a huge attention span and let's get the hell out of here. And it's the jumping from idea to idea and it's Sandra Bullock. Again, not her fault. She's just not a voice actress.

And it's just, no, it's not a recommend but easily the best of these. And I did have more fun with it than I thought I would. Oh, there you go. Yeah, I would recommend. It's a light recommend because, you know, it's a movie for children. But there is something to this.

And yeah, it's the second time I've seen it. I was laughing. I'm not made a stone. And I think it is just, it is the removal of the saccharin family stuff like Bob, you were saying. That just does not interest me. Like, take the little kids out of it and it's just the cartoon weird things. Absolutely.

I'd be all on board for an all-miniose movie. I was thinking about this watching it because now this is the first time I've seen it since we've started rewatching or watching going through for the first time, the sitcom taxi. and Andy Kaufman, the made-up Latka language that he used, yeah, from the character that he created to bring into Taxi, when that stuff is done right, like it's done with Taxi, like you can follow it. You can follow the jokes.

You can follow what Latka's feeling, you know, and he's, you know, he does speak English on the show, but when he is in his fake language, it's similar here. Like, I was following all that stuff. I didn't want Jeffrey Rush at the beginning because it is just kind of cool to watch them and follow the story just through visual cues. it was very interesting. So, you know, is what it is.

I will say, Steve, I think the whole thing for this new minions and monsters is like they want to make a movie and they're concerned about authenticity so they want real monsters to be into it. So I think it might be a more contained making movies and this is how we're getting special effects or something. You know, I don't know. But I think I'm going to, I don't know if I'll get to the theater, but I do want to check it out. It does have me like Bob, I've seen the trailer a thousand times. And I feel like at this point, I got to see it. I still haven't seen this trailer at all. I somehow have ducked out of it.

But Steve, I can't believe you don't know what they want. They want banana. Oh, they want banana. That's true. It's all they want is a banana. But that is going to do it. Again, Bob and Henry, welcome on anytime. For folks who are unfamiliar with the great work that you guys do, plug away.

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We also released our Q2 commentary for the year on Jackass Number 2. That was a lot of fun that's out now. We've also released a once in a lifetime this month, Chris Cabber. We have indeed the wrong dirter. Sydney-Sweeney vehicle. It was an absolute blast. It's a really, really funny episode. And then let's see.

Oh, we also, last week was Melro 2-10. Our journey through SoCal 90s TV continues. Man, oh, man, they are still setting the fucking table on 902-10 for this college stuff. I don't know how big this table is, man, but it's something else. We're having fun with the Greek life. Sure. Oh, yeah. Guns are fired on Melrose's place.

That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, we have that going on. And so if you're listening to this on the day it comes out, which is the 23rd of June, it's kind of our animation week because Steve, on Thursday, animation damnation is coming out. Well, apparently we gave more of a shit about that He-Man movie than you did America because we were like, hey, we got to tie into this big He-Man movie that's coming out. Yes, we are doing the 87 show.

It's an episode with multiple Skeletors. So you better like the skeleton voice because it's going to. be in there quite a bit. It is going to be ass to ankles with that skeleton voice. And also this Friday, the Gleap Gloucler comes out for this month. I got it. That's Mof Jarre Gerard. That's the, I believe, the emperor's

coming here. Yes, the return of the Jedi. That actor has just passed and Eric wanted to do, I think, I think he had said this, that Eric is writing this entry himself from end to end because this guy's got nothing. So, yes. I'm curious how this episode's going to shake out. It's going to be fun. It's going to be rocking.

And the end of the month, we will close with our Star Trek recap show The Nexus, which is celebrating its 10th year on the air, which is pretty ridiculous. And as part of that celebration, come hang out with us this August in the desert. That's right. We're going to be in Las Vegas for STLV, which is the biggest, most badass Star Trek convention in the world. It happens every year in Las Vegas. This year they're celebrating 60 years of Star Trek, right as we're celebrating 10 years of the Nexus. So we will be out there August 6th, 7th, and 8th at the DeForest Kelly Theater that's in the Rio Resort. That's where the whole Shabang here, the whole convention's happening.

On night one, we are talking about Wrath of Khan. On night two, we're talking about generations, and on night three, we're talking about first contact. And all of those are separately ticketed things, so you don't need to be attending the convention at all to come to the shows. If you are attending the convention, we'd love you to take some con time

and come see the shows. But you can just come to Vegas, do a little gambling, have a nice meal, and then come rock the Rio with us. I will say, if you have a brother named Dominic, maybe be careful. Just watch yourself while you're out there. Don't, you know, don't go too crazy. Don't let them around any aluminum baseball bad.

No. Smart move. But Steve Saganak, as always, the show rose on here next week. What We Hate Movies episode will we present on Tuesday. Oh, this show will be a rockin because we've got an earthquake movie with Dwayne the Rock Johnson. It's San Andreas. I'm really excited. As of this recording, I've still not seen this movie ever in my life, so I don't know what to expect. You, because you said it wrong.

The Paul Giamatti vehicle. My God, Paul Giamatti's stealing this fucking movie. I cannot wait to talk about it. It is so much a CGI civilian, you know, collateral damage death in this movie. It's right up there with the best body counts and the best disaster movies. And also, Paul Giamatti hiding under a desk through most beautiful. Love it. Pretty awesome.

So until next week, when Dwayne Johnson's. flying that helicopter. I've been Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Chris Cabin. Henry Gilbert. Bob, not the minion. Take it easy.