We Hate Movies - S16: On-Screen Live: Paul Thomas Andersons's 'One Battle After Another' starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, Chase Infiniti, Teyana Taylor & Benicio del Toro!

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Originally live-streamed Monday, October 6, 2025 On this week's On-Screen Live, the gang is on-hand to sift through some entertainment news items, analyze the tepid weekend box office numbers, and dig up another gem of a Secret Movie™️, however the biggest goal of this week's show was to chat a blue streak about Paul Thomas Andersons's One Battle After Another, which takes up the majority of the episode. No spoilers are dropped, so feel free to listen without having seen it yet! Steve also gives his thoughts on The Smashing Machine, while Andrew and Chris heap loads of praise on the new Jim Jarmusch film, Father Mother Sister Brother, dropping later this year. Be sure to check out the new Craven Tier on our Patreon! This all-new, video-centric tier grants you access to all the audio shows we put out each month, as well as two new shows, WHM After Dark, a monthly, AMA-style chat show where we answer questions from Patreon supporters, and Scaredy Cats, a quarterly show where we break down a more contemporary horror film. October's After Dark airs Tuesday, October 21 at 8pm/et and the first Scaredy Cats episode, covering Barbarian, will drop on October 29th! Be sure to pick up our digital show on Terminator: Dark Fate, available now in our Patreon shop! Don’t sleep on snagging your tickets to our 15th Anniversary show this December where we’re talking all things Arnold in Total Recall! It’s gonna be a gas and we wanna see you there! Click through for tickets now! Throughout 2025, we’ll be donating 100% of our earnings from our merch shop to the Center for Reproductive Rights. So head over and check out all these masterful designs and see what tickles your fancy! Shirts? Phone cases? Canvas prints? We got all that and more! Check it out and kick in for a good cause! Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

Well, well, well, what is going to be. going on one and all. Welcome to WHM on screen live. I'm Andrew Jupin, alongside three other embattled individuals. We have Stephen Sadek. Howdy? How's it going? Going good, man. How are you? Doing great. Happy to be back. Yes. Loving this, uh, uh, balmy October weather. You know it, dude. You know, a rare thing. How about this? You guys, uh, we're talking Rangers losing in the preseason. Giants losing in the regular season and the Yankees losing in the season. You love it. Right, Chris Cabin? All spaces of life.

I mean, that's what this weather does to you is, I mean, it's just a curse on us all, including on Netflix teams. And I have to ask, Stephen, the SADAC machine, does that make you Polish? It grinds you down to about a five, four level. Oh.

That's like a Dr. Seuss device of some kind. Yeah. And of course we have Bob joined. Or I mean, Eric Ferguson. Well, I'm looking for the rendezvous point for a few small beers what time is it yes tell me what time it is

yeah well we don't need time by the way you know if you're doing the audio version you're getting half the show here look at this I put it I put on a robe I had that's yeah dude I'm I'm dressed as an approximation of comrade Joshua I feel

yeah you got the beard for it Eric you're just missing you need a special order the old man glasses these are not as good they need a bigger lock all the sun from every angle kind of yeah oh you're right I'd oh yeah the sides oh the side guys like you're going to be

sitting at like a fucking like gambling machine all day yes I mean I I predict this Halloween costume to be everywhere not just because of our sister but it's it's so easy and it's so like the cheapest it's the cheapest it's such a good good movie everybody's loving it second

point I think Eric has cleverly figured out a way to drink good beer at noon on a Monday. Right, yeah, it's part of the costume. Yeah, yeah, that's all fun little costume. You're dropping off a political radical who was trying to save his daughter

before you got here. Yes, thank you. I would take, I would, I would get a DUI for the revolutionion. That is right. Speaking of the revolution, what's going on? Our revolutionaries in the chat, Graham Hill, Lappenstein sucked meth. I'm so, Rachel.

Icy weaner, Rose, foolish hooligan, love seeing y'all back in the chat, Osiris, Mason, Pete Robles. I can't believe these chatters. These chatters are making you say, icy weiner sucked. Yeah. That's right. A small price to pay. I agree with you, Stephen. Bob Ferguson's are going to be everywhere. I do hope some cosplayers take up the challenge.

You get a Stephen J. Lockjaw post-attack. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. You're going to meet some putty. you're going to need some putty but I want to see post attacks I want to see group costumes

let's have the whole like get your friends together do the French 75 you know one of you can be Alana Hame and that hilarious fucking liquor store wig I mean I even think the the Benicio costume would be a lot of fun

because like he's in a karate or a karate outfit for most of that movie I think at the end he's just got a denim like he's in regular like denim jacket but I think he still has the karate ghee pants yeah so that's what I think that's what makes it a costume, and it's also another pretty inexpensive one for that.

Yeah, the great thing about going to someone from one battle after another is they're all fairly cheap Halloween costumes. So I thought we'd do something a little different today, you know, before we get into box office and all that stuff, forget birthdays, forget death days. I think we should take a little gander at some recent headlines. Ooh. From the entertainment biz and give our thoughts on some movie news, entertainment news. I would love to.

Is it about that, is it about that young ingenue Tilly Norwood that variety can't stop writing about? I love those articles. She OD, she OD'd on the streets of the grid. Oh, that's it for it.

Yeah, she fucking died horribly. It was awesome. Too much megabytes. Yeah, she got derezed on the streets of the grid. I heard they had the pump her stomach. It was full full of gigabytes.

Digital cocaine. It gets them every time. Oh, yeah, that's dumb. No, but here's another thing that might be a bad. idea. Jason Bateman and talks to direct Universal Features take on

John Grisham's The Partner with Tom Holland gearing up to Star here. Now this is a Grisham tale about a lawyer that fakes his own death for a bunch of money. And then someone tries to fucking fuck up his shit being

hidden away or whatever. And I think Tom Holland is playing that guy. If it keeps him away from James Bond, I'm very happy. But I want to see I want to see little Tom Holland in the courtroom going This man leads to... I want the death penalty on this little boy like you wouldn't believe.

Yeah, I could see that. He's the one hunting. I assume he's the one trying to find whoever hid themselves. He's probably on the hunt. I think he's probably the guy. No, I think the guy is the thing is... Because the guy is trying to find out who's blowing up his cover.

So I think he might be the guy. And then it's like, trying to queers a deal and then he goes and tries to fucking find him. Absolutely Scrooge. It's absolutely screwed. That's, I mean, I think

that's pretty clear. I was just, I was, I was thrilled because my God, we're just, we're doing more adaptations of this dude. You thought it was over with. That's good.

I'd be, hey, look, that's maybe more, I want a courtroom drama. Yes. You hated the last good one. You hated true number two. That's true.

Yeah. Good movie. make a good one. I'd like that. Whoa. Get the hell out of here. Hey, speaking of bad decisions and going back on them immediately, this is quite embarrassing. Do you guys fucking see this? Amazon Prime

video already quietly scrubbing the gunless James Bond artwork after everybody flipped out over the weekend. I didn't even notice this even happened. He's known for using guns. Yes. There is, dude. He's a gun guy. I got a couple of these. So look, this is, so this was the Connery one. Okay.

So this is, on the left, if you went to watch these movies on Prime over the weekend, well, I think it was in conjunction for yesterday, because yesterday was like James Bond Day or whatever. Happy birthday, James Bond. So, yes, look at this. Look at this shit. It's kind of great. Well, it's the way that, I mean, also, it's a little unnatural post to even hold a gun. Yeah. But it's a super unnatural pose to not hold the gun.

Oh, my hand is having Trembish. Oh, look at that. There's nothing there. He's rubbing his nipple. Yeah. Oh, you're going to get a little harder for you. He thinks he's about to have a heart attack. He's about to grip his arm right there.

He's got the pinky out in the gun holding hand. So, like, with the gun gone, he's also just got the pinky out. It looks so dumb. And now, that's a British thing. Like, the teacup, you do the pinky out, with the gun, you do the pinky out. I think just for holding. I don't think that would be good when you actually fire the weapon, not having a full grip on it. Now, here's the really embarrassing one, though.

Look what they did to my boy. look with if you fucking went on amazon yesterday and you wanted to watch golden eye you just got this rolling up his sleeves i guess he's like jerking off a horse look at that it's what you do when your boss is like now i need you to come in on saturday okay uh-huh yep yeah i'll come in oh yeah yeah exactly yeah i'll be right there coming in on saturday this is just too much 90 shit like the grisham the grisham thing is 90s shit and this like the ET like let's take

the let's put the radios in for fucking why who cares we're done with this of all the social problems in the world right now that we that Amazon could be putting their their massive resources into solving the guns on the James Bond poster

should be fairly low on my left he's not the one going into the schools with that stuff exactly really isn't so speaking of the 90s Chris Cabin final news item over the week here. And this one, I'm, you know, I don't know, I'm kind of excited for this.

Dude's got a decent, ish track record. Resident Evil, the new production from Zach Craigor casting Severance Breakout, Zach Cherry, true detectives, Callie Reese. And another fella there, what's this guy's name? Oh, Jonah Wilson from Twisted Metal, which I do not watch.

I have not watched it. But the three of them added into this movie, Callie Reese specifically, dude, that's like, I need a badass in there. you know, you can see Zach Zach Cherry's probably going to get like the horrible fucking nerd death along the way. You're going to want to sign up

for our Craven tier to hear our thoughts on Zach Krueger's barbarian. But I'm a big you know, a big Zach Kregor fan, a movie fan. Not a big fan of the weirdest, could you know, FYI. But big fan of his movie work. Right. And it's just kind of an interesting thing. Obviously, he's on the carousel and now you

have to do something and it's Resident Evil and there's never been a good Resident Evil. movie so it's like I don't know we're gonna see we're just gonna see people will fight you on that Steve I agree with you completely but people people love those dumb movies for whatever reason the middle section of the Paul

WS Anderson gets a lot of defense uh I I think one of them is passable but the rest of them are trash I could imagine it's a good hangover fair you know what I mean for a lot that's not what they're arguing they're arguing like like

legitimately genius because of screens on screens Oh, no, no, dude, it's just, it's just a zombie action movie. It's never going to be any of that. No, no, no, no, no, no. But with Crager at the Hound, this could be fun. I haven't played one of those games in a really long time, and I feel like we're on the fourth remastering of part four or whatever the shit. I don't understand.

I guess we're just like making graphics look better every time. I feel like there's a lot of new additions of games that I played close to 30 years ago. Do they remaster, do they remaster twisted metal yet? get that remastered? I'm sure you can, dude. I'm sure it's just in time for that TV show you're not watching. I'm not a fan of remastering those Tomb Raider

games because I like to jerk off to a lady that looked like one of Gumby's blockheads with huge tits. Exactly. If I can't jerk off to a chick that looks like goo, what am I even doing? Well, that's a challenge. You see the blocks on her? Oh my God. Exactly. Look at them polygots.

Now we're talking. So, I don't know, interesting additions to that cast. I thought this guy, this Jonah Wilson, I thought that was the name of the dude who, that new Chewbacca, but that's a different. Oh, no, that's Yona something or something or other, yeah. I was like, ooh, Chewy and Resident Evil, but it's just this guy. I don't know, does he play like the clown or something? I don't know what goes on on the Twisted Metal Show. I haven't gone near it.

I could not tell you. Just FYI. Oh, yes. Junis Sodomio. Pardon me? I knew I was way off. Can we get some Junos

Sodomier for the table, please? Junis Sotomo. I thought you were saying a Supreme Court Justice man for a second. Some Jonah, Santa Mayor, please. Thank you. Make it sound. I can't wait to read his scathing

dissent. So anyway, that's some news items in the entertainment biz now for the big news items man we want to check out what's going on at the box office this is a segment we like to call highest gross switched out to all new movies it's all right it's been a nice long time since we've done a highest gross segment so mm-mm switched out to all new movies it would almost have to be since the last time we did this i believe was in july uh So here we go.

Coming to at number five, maybe some quick thoughts about this. I think maybe just Steve and I saw it. Conjuring the last rights. Still kicking it at the box office, if you can even believe it here. You know what's funny? I literally had a ticket for this movie.

And when you guys told me the runtime, I unfandango did it. Did a little exchange, did it? That's right, yep. Yeah, I love the fan. That's the best part of the Pandango app is the ability to get a refund on almost any ticket if you do it in a timely fashion.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. and just you know what it's like i'm going to get to it eventually put that right in my like you know fandango credit and i'm going to use it to buy a movie ticket someday so don't worry about it yeah it's a great system you got bad gas and you're like do i really want to see the count during last rights you know i'm just going that's not why that's not why i mean you weren't you weren't home farting your ass off eric it was the run time is what i'm going come on but like a midday showing you can fart your brains out the fucking place is not going to be that packed. That's fair. I will say

this conjuring, I did see this, this is probably my favorite of the bunch because it's the last one. Ferecally, we are done with this shit. And I'm like, I after the last one, which was the worst one by far, I think. It is. Yes. I was like,

at least this one is legible. It is long. It's way too fucking long. But like, I was like, this is legible. This is easy to get through. The fucking marriage plot is stupid. But whatever. And I'm like, and maybe it's over. Maybe this is over. Thank God.

I was kind of hoping that Patrick Wilson was going to have a heart attack or that pinball, that ping pong game. I was like, come on right there. Because they are teasing this whole movie that like he's going to drop dead of a heart attack. And like, you start thinking to yourself like, all right, like I've watched all over these movies. I've looked at their Wikipedia.

I know that he had like a stroke towards the end of his life and died five years later. like so you're then like pathetically using knowledge of these people's lives or at least i was to be like boy are they going to kill him a different way in this and like of course none of that fucking game to be they should have them do you know there's going to be more of these chris there's gonna be more of this this is a very common if it's the tv show whatever but if there's another one of these i'm going to be very sad but what if in this other one of these if they continue this and patrick wilson has he strokes out he's like has a big stroke and then he's like a ghost helping

Lorraine from the other side I like that I kind of was wondering if there was going to be some she sees him on the other side and even better and after you help her from the other side you can finger her from the other side as well that's right technically true

definitely could we do that I would like to be clear I would not like to see any of this what if when he gets to that other side he thinks he's going to help out but then he's in now he's in jail with all the other people he all the other souls he screwed over life jail he's in afterlife jail okay that's what that's what that's what after life is okay I was not aware of that was all these other ghosts you'd be here we ever heard of hell sure yeah but there's other another part of it too you know

you're not going there what are you fucking stupid there's a other part of it I might hit limbo I might get limbo and that's what limbo if you're lucky yeah that's what I'm like I want this movies not in limbo week five another four million dollars rocking this fucker up to a 168 domestically 458 million globally with a budget of around 55

million dollars so yeah this is just fine and it's already it's paying for Warner Brothers to do some other things like a movie we're going to be talking about at length later so I'm here for it something I was not here for Steve you got something? I agree it's totally offensive the ending

is really the worst part is just like that I want to see this woman's wedding is just like I don't, I really do not you know what I mean? No, no, no. We'll see. Yeah, also the fact that you would invite former haunting people

to your daughter's wedding, dude, you have no fucking friends. We have to have a seat for Annabelle. We have to have a seat for Annabelle at the wedding. Come on. Let's have her come through. Honey, this is someone who I fought a ghost for them once, so be nice. You got to be like, oh,

That's one of those wedding invitations you get and it pisses you off because you're like, fuck. Now, I got to go. They solved their ghost pro. We have to go. Now we've got to buy her a fucking present. We've got to get a hotel for the night. God, this is going to come.

Yes, if you don't get something good off the registry, they're going to bring that ghost back. Lily Taylor's arguing with Ron Livingston. He's like, can't we just send a freaking gift? He fixed our car, okay? Yeah, Lily Taylor guesting at that wedding, Ron Livingston nowhere to be found I guess it's possible

that character died before the Or divorce Oh yeah A lot of these extreme haunting marriages Aren't really gonna last I would I would wage And they fail It happens

Yeah Speaking of stuff that happens Sometimes it happens that movies like this come out Gabby's dollhouse the movie What is this? I don't fucking know It's some television show that we've made into a movie

that grows $5.2 million in its second week. Yeah, you know, 33 million globally. It's the only kids movie out now until Thanksgiving. So it's got some runway, but like, is it like a Guller Rouge travels? They get small and they go in the house. Nice. I don't know.

I don't know about that. The only way I know about this movie is there has been an advertisement for it above one of the exits to the subway in my neighborhood. So I don't know. I think it's a Netflix show Maybe it's a somebody TV show Peacock maybe if it's universal Each episode begins with the live action

Gabby playing in her bedroom She then unboxes a miniature package Received in the dollhouse delivery Brought to her by the Meow Meow mailbox Oh That is a catalyst for an adventure Inside of the animated world Inside for dollhouse

Okay I'm on board now Yeah I'll talk to you on boat for Gabby's dollhouse The movie hold on tight it says Changing out my Fandango credits Going somewhere Gabby puts on her cattyers headband and shrinks

down with her stuffed toy panty paws who comes alive. I'm surprised. I feel like I actually sound like I'm doing one of those, it's always the best when, uh, Madlebs? No, the Macy's, uh, the Macy's parade when they have to like, the announcer has no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

Gabby puts on her cattyers headbands, shrinks down with their stuffed toy panty paws. It comes alive. Gabby has a hug attack. Oh, and now it's blowing down Fifth Avenue. Bye. Yeah, exactly. And now Gabby's dancing outside. of Macy's with Santa you totally does sound like that copy that like Al Roker's got a

fucking gun to his head being forced to read and here's a gentle green giant here with broccoli and peas to give us all the vitamins we need. Oh, it's SpongeBob Squarepants in the land about what the fuck is this saying? I do have to ask

who is that, is that Kristen Whig? It is Christian Whig. Okay, I've been like trying, I've been seeing this poster everywhere and like, I've just been seeing her face. I'm like, wait, is that Barbara Compton or is that Kristen Whig? No, it's Kristen Weig. Yeah, she's

there because you didn't like Wonder Woman 1984 enough. Yeah. Where is Kristen Wig? She's the one. The silver-haired girl? Yes. Oh, my God. She's not the 17-year-old girl. Well, no, I know that, but I thought there was no way this other person was going to be fucking Kristen Wig.

Yeah, it's sadly, Kristen Wig. Oh, if I get my face closer to the computer, Yeah, there it is. Her next on her, on her, her docket is Masters of the Universe doing the voice of Robato. Okay. And then something called Cut Off, which is, seems like a Jonah Hill directed dromedy deal. Well, she's a good talent. I like her.

I do. No, I do. I root for her. But I just, I just won't be checking out whatever this shit is. Because again, it's not for me. If your kids fucking like it, whatever. I'll be there in the bathroom. Oh, dude.

They'll let you in, my friend. you're getting arrested if you have the medellos you're getting arrested i think beer or no beer he's getting arrested a few small gabbies oh man moving right along here uh i think it's one of the best of the year others may differ from my opinion but in it number three for its first week the smashing machine uh steve sadick wanted to give you uh a minute here to talk about it because you recently got to it i did it this weekend tepid uh response for me man it just it was just okay. Like I think the Rock and

Emily Blunt are great in it. Their domestic scenes are the best things in the movie him hulking out but also like it's all this controlled rage when he's dumping out that shake that she made I was oh dude yeah because she made it wrong or whatever. Yes, it's got the wrong milk in it

or whatever it's just I told you it's a banana and a half now it's a banana and a half she's like the last week it was a half but this week it's a banana and a half and he's just like but thank you so much really appreciate it. I really appreciate it. It's so, the tension there is so good and they have great chemistry together.

The MMA of it all, I think the movie doesn't do a very good job of I don't think those scenes are particularly well-filled. I think the movie is actually really well directed, but I didn't, I don't find those scenes terrifically exciting. I don't think that like... How he captures the actual

fighting, you mean? Exactly. And like, in boxing movies, it's very clear. when like, oh, you got to hit the eye because that's what his weakness is. And like, it's very dumbed down boxing. But as a film goer, like, it lets you understand, like, what the strategy is and how you're going to win and how you're going to lose. There's a little bit of that with the illegal need of the head stuff. It's, I also just don't care for MMA, which might be a bit of a hindrance on me.

Right. But ultimately, like, the ending, which I'm not going to spoil, but like, the title card comes up after the whole events of the film and there's a little bit of a postcard. where you see something that's a little different than the rest of the movie. But it's just like, hey, FYI, these guys only made this much money and now these new UFC fighters make millions of dollars. This was his story. His name is Mark Kerr and I'm like

the money was never the point of the movie. So I don't know, like leaving it on that note kind of, it underlines what I think is a problem in the movie. I don't know what the reason of this movie is. I don't know if it's a domestic drama. I don't know if it's a sports movie, I don't know if it's whatever it is, if we're trying to make the MMA, are we saying something about MMA, are we saying something about the violence of MMA, or are we saying

something about anything really? I just, it just sort of is what it is, and I think it's, it just, for some reason, it just lacks intensity and to me, reason for being. The reason is Oscar Knights. Yeah. Yes, which I

think he's very good in it, and so is she's great. I think the thing with the money is just trying to highlight again, like this it's from a like thankless point in this sports existence where like you couldn't even say like well you know Mark Kerr got the shit knocked out of him and he had to learn how to lose

but at least he was making millions of dollars that dude's just fucking shopping at Costco like everybody else and doesn't have a great life and I'm sure he's pretty thankful this movie got made about him you know what I mean? So I always that's how I took the money thing I 100% I agree with that and I think it also has to do with like

the playing off of you know what's the difference of how you see yourself versus who you are in the world and when those moments have to actually when you have to come in conflict with that reality like yeah and like that's his the whole thing is that like he is obsessed with his vision of himself for a good

portion of the movie and then he has to deal with the fact that like in reality he's just another guy who did that like he's not anybody special he just did this that's what I but that's what I think it's not it's not him that realize that it's the real version which sort of a bit of a difficult thing to deal with.

I don't know. It just, it really just kind of didn't work for it, but I don't hate it or anything like that. It just sort of was like a low level, like, I was just kind of really disappointed by it because I think it looks good. I really like the use of diagetic music throughout, like that just centers you and the time. Oh, yeah, big time. And in not an annoying

way. Like, it's always like music that's like playing and, you know what I mean, in a doctor's office that's the right thing, but it's also the right volume, which is something that I don't think diagetic music gets very well very often or like there's always a TV on or something that you know what I mean it's just I like that part of it I think that the costume design the production design is really good it just I was just waiting for it

to happen let's drop those stars how many stars I gave it three out of five on letterbox there you go there you go bad um yeah you know I have to say I think this is a great example of the potential of value and a platform release because a two four my friends they just went wide with this fucker as wide as you could go and a gross six million dollars it's the lowest opening weekend gross of a DJ film which I mean it does not matter that's just a statistic and of course obviously it would be considering the kinds of movies he normally makes

so that's not indicative of anything but I do think like they really should have given this a beat and it's like because it's only now like you release it on October 3rd like October is when you see it's like the official start to if you're trying to like get something into award season October is like that first month where it's viable and like platform that shit New York and L.A. Give it a weekend. Give it two. See what goes on. See if you can build

word of mouth and then spread it out because now you've blown your wad. You opened $6 million everywhere. You can't expand it anymore. There's no way for this to get any kind of word of mouth going to the point where it'll stave off like losing theaters.

So like they totally screwed themselves on the release of this unfortunately. But you know maybe maybe some folks will find it. Maybe to do like a re-release kind of closer towards the holidays or something. Do you think it's going to hurt the nominations possibilities? No, I don't

think so because I think enough people are going to be at least talking about him. Yeah, for sure. And her, I think she's really good. Yes, I think Emily Blunt was also really great in the movie. And I do agree with you that the parts that I was paying attention to the most were their domestic scenes. And honestly,

anytime outside of the ring, mainly because I'm just not, I don't care about mixed parts. arts. I really don't. So it was just like get me more about the people. And so I was receptive more to those scenes. But I do think the movie needs to and I agree with you. I think but I think it's the movie's job to make you care about the MMA. Oh yeah. Paul's flat on that. Except

the opening scene is pretty cool with the what you're doing the the DV version and then it turns into whatever. You know what I mean? That was actually pretty compelling. But other than that, yeah. Yeah. Pretty compelling. We'll talk about it at length a little later in the program but in its second week of release Paul Thomas Sanderson's One battle after another in its second, $11.1 million. And yeah, you know, the great success of things like conjuring last rights are why, you know, this movie doing, let's see, where are we here globally, 102 million, globally, 43 million domestically on around, there's been a lot of reports of the budget, so we'll say 135 million.

Like the conjuring being so great in the black is why it doesn't matter that this is a doing gang bust. yeah um but it's still you know looking at it uh what are we here jesus like 12.8 million dollars in imax like this weekend alone pretty wild or uh it's in the two weeks together rather um i've seen it on i max twice we'll get to it more later but uh yeah pretty great that it was able to kind of hold in and wasn't just like a week i could see this coming back like towards uh maybe the award season getting like that opi i max re-release kind of thing they'll definitely look at like what all is going to be in iMacs like around the end of the year and i bet you anything you'll see like split screens of you know some some showtimes it's

whatever movie other times one battle getting back in because next week we're going to have tron aries i assume taking up a good amount of these uh showing so they're going to want to get it back at some point yeah for at least one week i'm going to guess with tron arries we'll see but yeah i don't know what kind of i don't know what kind of legs that fucker's going to have. Speaking of a film with no legs because it is supposedly a one and done

like just for this week because it's not really a movie. It's a filmed record release party technically. It was number one at the box office. Taylor Swift, the official release party of a showgirl. It was just those three

four and five October in theaters. Is she singing a song at least or what are we talking about? Like don't they play the album or something yeah I don't particularly know what I don't know I have no idea I just heard anyone in the chat yeah call it out chat let us know if you've seen this

and what this is I just heard Chris Cab and groaning we're going to lose our precious audience all the young people let's just say we're logging off right now let's just say it's great I'm fairly swift agnostic like if I hear some of her music and it's okay I'm like cool I don't search it out I agree with

you i feel like if she turns out to be god i didn't wrong her too much by going so against it sure i'm agnostic yeah uh-huh uh-huh uh-i'm so rachel in the chat says it's basically an album listening party with the music video attached at the end with some behind-the-scenes stuff from the tour so at least you get to see here it's not i i just thought it was just like aren't we excited about like you go to the theater and it's just being like this album is great it's just this on the hi this is taylor swift thanks for coming all the way to the theater you're not going to see me or anything i'm in my pajamas recording this in my huge house but here's my record here's track one she could she could do that she could just she absolutely yeah yeah this is and they would love her

for it love her for but i mean this is no era's tour opening i mean 33 million kind of whatever and it's gone after this so you know rock would like 33 million this week I'm sure. I'm sure you would have. But again, you know, DJ, we know you're watching. It's not about the box office with this one, dude. Elsewhere, just wanted to get in. Something here was just featured at the New York Film Festival

and Focus Features is already flushing it right down the toilet. But Ronan Day Lewis's Anamone released 700K which would be fine except for the fact that for some reason focus features put this bed boy

on 865 screens what on earth are you thinking what is what is happening in your brain i think daniel de louis matters that much are you crazy dude i honestly feel there was multiple meetings and it was exactly like that guys it's daniel day's film out of retirement right the grand return there's going to be roses tossed at us if it was p t and if it was a p t anderson movie with fucking daniel day louis that's another thing if it was a annual day louis and his son making a movie together with Sean Bean. Shouldn't films have to be made by filmmakers? Did the ballot of Jack and Rose do crazy numbers that I missed it?

No, it did not. There are Daniel DeLewis movies, a Daniel Day Lewis movie. This is the Daniel Day Lewis movie. You know what I mean? Like anyone should have seen this comment. Daniel Day lose us with this one. I did not see it. A friend of the show, Sean Weiner saw it at New York Film Festival and thought it was

finds, it's sort of like Daniel Day and Sean Bean are acting against one another and then any time they're not acting, it's just kind of like a music video vibe. The last movie that he's known most for is a movie like partially at least

about a very barbed relationship between two people who think their brothers. And then you make a movie about a barbed relationship between two brothers as the comeback movie that nobody wants to see. What the fuck? What are you thinking?

Well, because you're living in, you know, you're... Davita Loka. Yeah, yeah, I guess so. Whatever. But, yeah, I just, I saw the number 865 and I almost fell off my chair. That's some bad planning. Because that's all the money your movie's going to make. Because, you know what?

To say what you will about the smashing machine, like, I can see them being like, at least we're going to get a weekend to the box office for ourselves before Tron Arias comes in and blows doors off the place for at least one weekend. We know that it's going to have one weekend where it's really going to feast. Who knows what happens after that? But like this, I'm just like, where was your, if you're, the only thing that makes sense is that you really thought

Daniel DeLewis, on his own, just him was worth this. And it just doesn't make a sense. Also, like not really any advertising for this. No. No. No. No. I mean, again, the smashing machine, I saw tons of trailers. Yeah. And TV spots. Like, people do that movie's coming out this week. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so So, yeah, anamone.

Just had to put that out there. Is it anemone or anemone? Is it anemone? I don't know. I have no idea. Monomino. Chat, let me know. Is it like a sea anemone?

Don't you say see anemone? I guess we'll have to defer to you, Steve. You're the book guy. You are the book guy. Mr. Book learned. Steve got, somebody says Steve's got it. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. So there we go. Someone didn't want to say it in the chat. but they then they then said it anyway. So that's a word we're led to believe. That's an actual word. It's an actual word. I thought it was like the name from the word book,

which is called the dictionary. Oh, all right. Ooh, dictionary. Look at you. A plant of the Buttercup family, typically bearing brightly colored flowers. Themines are widely distributed in the wild and several times are popular garden plants.

Nope, not a word. That's just a flower. And yes, Steve, anemone, short for sea anemone, a sedentary marine colentery with a columnar body, which bears a ring of stinging tentacles, get this guys, around its mouth. There's all kinds of sawtrap words in that fucking sentence. You mispronounced my favorite flower. You're going to die now. Hello, Andrew, you're going to die from an anemone? It's called anemone, actually.

I'd like to point out that I never actually tried to say it. I'm going to take you to Mexico to see if you can pronounce things right. How about this? We're going to be pronouncing things all sorts of incorrectly on these two new tier offerings we have. Because do you guys know about this? Craven tier we've got? Oh, I had no idea.

A new tier on the Patreon. Patreon.com slash we hate movies. It's a video tier where you get, yes, all of the audio. stuff lumped in, but you get two new video programs and want to give you the deets on October situation for this. So first up, of course, is WHM After Dark. That is our AMA style Q&A chat show, which airs monthly live. And the next one is going to be the 21st of this month. It's a Tuesday night, 8 p.m. Eastern Time. We will be live on Patreon. Talking about whatever you guys want us to talk about. We will answer your questions. Like right now, on screen live,

people chatting asking me, I'm not answering any of that crap. No. You're not looking at that crap. You can't. Crap old. Do it. After dark, you can ask us about anything. We talked about music last time. We talked about movies, anything. And I might bring my kitten out again. If he's not being a complete son of a bitch. Full pussy show.

Patreon.com. Look at that. And then later on this month, the 29th, we are airing the first of our new show, Scareddy Cats, which is a show where we sort of break down modern horror and we teased it up at the top already but yes that's right the first episode dropping on the 29th we're going to be talking up and down about barbarian hell yeah look at Felipe's artwork here it's the best we've ever looked frankly yes it looks just like me um but you know this is a video experience it's going to be sort of like this you'll have a video you could watch

it a whole episode or you could enjoy the audio experience instead that's right you know we may be using some like visual cues to exemplify talking points so like that's why you know we want you to watch this so you can see what we're doing we can see eric's Halloween costume and so on we're going to be talking a lot about Richard Brake that's going to be exciting oh definitely i'm going to have to look it up i was just watching something and richard break popped up and i was like hey look at that richard break did you wrong so yeah 1021 is the october after dark and then 1029 the first episode sort of Scarety Cat's airs on the Patreon as well.

And then also that very next day, that end of the October is pretty packed. Because coming up on the 30th, of course, it is a Q3 commentary, Friday the 13th, Mentary, part two. Yeah. Hell yeah. Exciting. That first one is like one of our best received commentary tracks. And I got to tell you, this part two is edited and ready for release.

And it is very funny. These movies just make great fodder to friggin talk over. that's for sure right you sign up today you can also listen to that original friday the 13th commentary tract there's so many many many commentary we are borderlining it's not this one but i think maybe the next commentary that we release will be commentary 40 we've got wow there's coming up on 40 of these fuckers um which is great and they're all you know on patreon except for one that's on a DVD set from vinegar syndrome and you know big frant you know twilight john wick we got them we got them all folks

absolutely so there you go just had to break plug our stuff Richard Richard break yeah they did it Chris Cabin real quick

let's me and you squeeze in here talking about the new Jimmy Jarmish movie father mother sister brother that we caught at the NYFF just fuck was that last Friday my God that sounds right

but we both we both dug on this one I thought it was a return to form for Mr. Jarman's show. You want to give a little capsule description of what this sucker's about? What's a trio of stories? One's about a father. One's about a mother and one's brought a brother and a sister.

Yep, so far. You got it so far. That's about, I mean, and they're all about like different, like how you communicate with your family as time goes on, whether death makes it easy in some ways to communicate.

even since they're not there anymore to have all the weight of their existence on you and stuff like that there's a lot of existential pauses as you might expect from Jim Jarmush yeah I really loved this I thought this was very tender for him the first part was my favorite

but I really thought both the second and third were very well done and really well performed Tom Waits and Adam Driver I thought were really freaking great in that first one and then I thought the trio in the middle were amazing

with Cape Lanchette, Vicky Cripes and Charlotte Rampling crazy old Charlotte Rampling Oh yeah I mean I love that it is It's a return to form Also in the sense like the structural sense It is a triptych of stories

That are just the The loosest bit related Due to the theme of like Family relationships Like that's it There's no like characters sauntering in and out of the other stories it's just everything is separate except

like the theme that he's going for which is I love when Jarmish breaks out his movies like this it's like very night on earth kind of vibes right that's the cab one that I'm thinking of yeah and yes Steve I was thinking of you the whole like first half hour because the fucking Tom Waits performance as just like this old dad who's weird and living alone is

quite great that's phenomenal I think the last time we saw him in a bigish movie was that Babylon he's in Babylon right or... Oh, no, no, no, no, he's in Lickrish Pizza. I got, no, I missed it up. The weird... Yes, he is in Licker's at the party.

He's like, let's go fucking drink. He's with Sean Penn. The Sean Penn part. He's with Sean Penn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I was trying, because I was like, he was in like, what, seven psychopaths that part of the McDonald movie?

He's in. He's in. Buster Scruggs. He's in. He's the one who's saying, uh, good night, Mr. Pocket. Uh, but, uh, he's also, he was in a very small part in, uh, the dead dog.

die the zombie movie he's still haven't seen that I really love it but I know people I understand why people don't like it but I think it's really wonderful I'm just kind of looking for horror to watch and I've been kind of on a weird jarmish cook kick for a little while I rewatch Dead Man

watched Nightiners the first time did coffee and cigarettes again so maybe I'll do that as well just kind of you might hate it you might very well get it I love that Dead Man it's um yeah I don't I don't love it, but it is interesting. It's like him using all

his Jarmish powers to make like a really flat and you know, his style of comedy. A zombie movie. Yeah, it's certainly weird, but just in like that kind of expected Jarmish

way. I don't know. I felt it was him like pushing his style through his zombie movie and it's fine, you know. Yeah. It's a lot of cool like upstate film locations, which is pretty sweet. So you got that going for you. Oh, yeah. No, not this one. Maybe this one, too, because the Dead

Don't Die was filmed basically where I grew up, so. Yeah. The first sequence, yes, the first sequence of this movie, this new one, I believe, is like in the Catskills. Interesting. Possibly Berkshires, but it's like up there. And then

the second takes place in Dublin and the third in Paris and it's like on location, really nice looking, very cool. So this will be out limited. I Christmas Eve from Mooby so look for that to expand you know sometime sometime in the new year all right gentlemen

let's get into it how many times has everybody seen Paul Thomas Anderson's one battle after another just the ones just one I'm good I got tickets for this Thursday I'm going to go back I'm so excited good stuff Chris how many times dose those those

nice yeah I'm actually really tempted to rewatch it again in theaters, even though there's some stuff I want to catch before it. But I just, you know what I mean? It is Yeah. It was that exciting. It was that cool. It was that a like revelatory cinematic experience.

Like I kind of want to do this again, which is very rare to go back to the theater for something. Yeah. The last time I went back to the theater it was, I think, Dune Part 2 I saw twice in theaters. In the same weekend, that was some insane shit.

Sort of unintentionally, last minute, a second time. But yeah, I rarely do the go back. So like when I do the go back, it must mean like something really struck me about this. And like from the moment I saw it like the Sunday of opening weekend, as soon as I left the theater, I was like, got to get back, got to get back, got to get back, got to see it again, got to get back, got to do it, wave to the future. And so I did last Friday and it was still, you know, it's even better because you just, you know where everything is going to land and then you can just kind of like sit in it. Yeah. So your asshole isn't so

tight during the final chase scene. That'd be nice. What a great chase scene. And you know what I do appreciate about the film is finally someone else, apparently PTA agrees with me. These people that are obsessed with fucking Christmas, man. Whoa. I knew there was something going on with

Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, that Christmas Adventures Club dude, there's some sick tickets in that group. It's just such a funny movie, too. You know, speaking on the Christmas adventures. And there's just so many great moments comedy and levity in a tense movie. Oh, yeah, yeah, super tense.

But that's what, like, yeah, go ahead, see. No, even as Sean Penn, who as repugnant of his character as he is, and he is, and it's, like, seethingly so, like, from the top to the bottom, the way he walks around, like Frankenstein's monster. But he's still very funny, too. Like, even the first moment of her, like, making him get a hard on is fucking hilarious in a scene where you have no idea where this is going. Well, because it's dealing with his tenderness.

That's like what's so weird. I mean, that's such an interesting way to get your in with this character is that like, you get him at these tender moments like her, like seducing him and him actually feeling more for her than he, she does for him clearly. And like that just bounce up. The fact that he is so honored to be part of the Christmas Adventures Club is like, it like it overtakes his whole being. And like you can tell Sean Penn just completely, I mean, the walk, when he goes to get the

fucking a ram to go open the door. I laughed for like five minutes straight. It's so awesome because he's got a travel-sized battering ram in the back seat of his truck. I died. Oh my God. He puts down the flowers and takes the, like that's such a perfect

little encapsulation of who he is and what he's going through. And he sets the flowers down. He doesn't angrily throw them in the yard. He gently places them on the porch. He gently places them on the porch. and then goes to get his travel-sized battering ram. Did you guys feel, speaking on, the Sean Penn character is what inspired this thought,

because I thought it both times I was watching it, there were definitely people in that theater with me, both times, that was not sure if they should be laughing at this movie. Okay, I remember that. It was weird, and I was kind of like, I wanted to be like, it's okay, it's fine, I know you want to.

It was just weird, like you could feel all these moments where it was like this weird douche chill where there shouldn't have been a douche chill it should have been laughed and so I'm you know I mean I think there's signifiers that you should laugh I mean what's interesting about the movie too

is the names are very compelling almost like Wes Anderson names like Colonel Lockjaw Sense Sergio Saint Carlos that is a Wes Anderson character yes absolutely the and I think but like

it's just interesting for Anderson the last couple of movies I think there will be like he's he hasn't done like epic in a little while. You know what I mean? It's been big, big movies, like you know what I mean? Need to be seen on the big screen. Like, Looker's Pizza, Pizza and

Venom Threat both need to be seen on the big screen and even the master as well. But actually the master's pretty epic, but this is like, this is like I'm in a, it's a big movie. It has big themes, big moments. It's just such a big experience.

And that's why I, it makes me want to go back to the theater. Because I just, you know what I mean? Like I want more of that in my life kind of. I think it's a great example of like you don't need to have like only Avatar be in you know premium large screen auditoriums right like this you know on its face is more like just kind of a like comedy drama that has a lot of tense action elements built into it. I've seen people like referring to it as an action movie which I guess so but I think that brings like a little baggage with it.

You know, a lot of folks say, oh, PTA finally directed an action movie, I guess. But like there is, this is another, this, Killers of the Flower Moon,

another Leo movie that I saw in IMAX, that's not what you would think is a necessarily like IMAX needed movie, but like seeing killers of the flower moon, it was the same experience. Just like, whoa, like there is an argument to be made for a large format for any kind of movie.

Right. And you know, the politics of the moment, too very very compelling in this movie i was thinking about uh when i after watching this i not really there's not really a correlation per se but it was reminded me a little bit of eddington which i felt was a little south parkian in its take on the politics of the time well this is much more hopeful uh yeah i'm just saying i feel like edington did a little they're both bad yes sure yeah i i think that that's i mean i think that's i mean i think that's

But I respect Eddington and this movie for, I think a lot of people are very sheepish about making real political movies that are real political movies and it's not hiding behind it. And not to be, again, not hiding behind horror to do these kind of comments. Like, it's really, this is the real world that we're living in, even if it's a heightened version of it. You know what I mean?

Like this is what I think is happening right now, sort of to a degree. And also through the lens of Thomas Pinchin and everything else. And made in the USA. So you can't, yeah. You know, this is a homegrown movie, Mr. President, so no tariff. It speaks to

what I think it was Andrew who was saying, like, the fact that this is like these movies of now. Like, Eddington, something like this doesn't just come around. Like, the fact that people didn't know how, like, how to take it in if they should laugh or not.

It's because laughter, like, you don't know if it, like, you don't know if your laughter is condemning you, right? Like, you're like, if you find this thing funny, you find it light. That's not the same thing. You can laugh at something that is heavy. That's a different

calculation, at least in my view. And I think that's exactly where this and Eddington have been sticking people. It's like, they don't know how to take these things because they are dealing with some pretty spicy material. And like, to me, this is the other to inherent vice.

Where inherent vice, all of its paranoia and stuff is subsumed in the humor of it and all the comedy that's coming out of like him sucking on the banana. all this stuff is like covering over the destruction of LA this all that stuff actually comes to the surface and the comedy is kind of what's going on

underneath like the fact that you can't remember your revolutionary politics because you smoke too much weed and drink too much wine like that that is funny like you just you can't do it because you fucked yourself up too much to do the thing you were supposed to do at the time and it also takes the air out of that some of that shit a little bit

too right like when we see these things portrayed in movies, especially if you've watched anything that's sort of like weather underground coded or something like that. It is taken so seriously. And like in these scenes in this movie where it's like Leo outside the store just fucking yelling at Comrade Joshua on the phone and you know, I'm going to find you. This like it's just it's so it's such an interesting way to present all of the stuff that we've seen in other movies. Right. But it's just it's presented in this style in this way with this kind of temperature. to it and god damn it just

works everything about it and it's also interesting like for Leo specifically the difference between this character and Rick Dalton specifically like because I think on paper they could be very similar they're both washouts both you know what I mean inebriated for various reasons

etc etc and that being a weakness for them but it's the nuances that he gets in this character versus the nuance he gets it's just I think that he's getting a lot of of plotts for this role and I think he deserves it and also obviously Tiana Taylor is fantastic absolutely fantastic of this movie. Chase Infinity is the she should her name should be above the

poster she's like the movie and like she does for such a young actress it's like to be able to do this and not it's a really fearless performance really funny performance her telling Sean Penn that his t-shirt is very tight dude yes funniest lines it's like such a like mean girl like it's exactly right for her age and you're just like yep if a girl that age told that to you you'd think about it for months. God, my shirt was too fucking tight. Fuck,

that she just told, God damn it, she got me. Fuck. You know. But yeah, you know, I,

she was great. I had seen her on that presumed innocent show, where she's, you know, she's in it for a bitch. She's, uh, Jillen Hall's,

uh, daughter and Ruthenegga's daughter. She's not the presumed. No, she, uh, no, no,

no, um, but she's the innocent, if anything. Right. She's not in it a ton. was what I was getting at so it was cool to see here

here I think we got to get into it we kind of mentioned him a little bit but like Benicio Benicio just being on this run man that I think now is going back to what no sudden move the Soderberg where he was he was great and I feel like that was kind of like

at least from my memory the first time in a while where we were like whoa Benicio's kind of like really doing it in this movie he's really doing it in this movie and he was also doing it in phoenician scheme earlier this year like this is like a massive year i think for him but this fucking just sensei saint carlos is just it's such a great character like his i love i mean and we won't get too spoiler here spoilery here but like his major sequence

where he's taking leo through his store and just you see how his world is connected and all these these connections he's got whether it's family or people he's helping out and he never loses his composure and that's you know he's going through do this get this out of here this that the other because he does this every day like he's constantly dealing with one battle after the other and you've been smoking pot on the couch for the last 16 years it's it's it's different for people of color and especially you know these migrants that he was trying to help out in the film yep it's all and also like it's just all underplayed like again which it goes against leo is being so big he's being much more reserved and like just a line like i've got a he kind of just tells

it like he's got a cat and has it just enough why I got a little Latino Harriet Tubbin thing going on in my house the way he says it is just such a fucking funny like great delivery and sets up what you're about to see but in a very matter of fact kind of way which is

he's fantastic and I'm always a sucker for it because you don't get in a ton in movies that he's in but whenever Benicio is speaking Spanish in movies I think it's awesome and I love that there's I'm trying to remember there's like no subtitling any of that

which I think is indeed the move you understand it so but I'm sure certains who were already upset with this movie also got upset about that probably because find anything to piss your pants about baby but yeah just I mean his whole thing

in the way he sort of loops back into the movie like you think he might be gone for a little bit and you're like well that was nice and then he's back and you're like oh that's even better you know because that because when he comes back those are those are the moments that are getting memeified throughout the universe but even when he's like when he's helping bob and he's like bob bob you know shoes off the mat you get off the you know all that all that stuff with the dojo like it's just is really really special um wanted to point out also some french 75 people uh just alonahame really great jungle pussy

wood harris uh regina hall wood harris i'm always hyped to see and stuff and man he's just like kind of blink and you miss it he eventually gets uh out of the movie but it's like damn just all these like little face like real faces like wood harris has like a real face lanaham's got a real face like pta again doing a great casting job of making all these people feel totally real like even even leo like the way they make leo look in this movie i'm real a lot of people are talking about this like his like whatever they're calling it like dumb fuck era where he's just playing like you know lower status

idiots like it's great him playing lower status i think is really great i also i'm a sucker for a time jump in a movie like a significant time jump it's and playing with that aspect of it yeah yeah it's a bit of a getting the band back together too and like what had what hath we wrought and all this kind of stuff i'm a sucker for all those themes and i think that's what regina hall brings to it like her her piece of just sort of like she didn't leo out you know what i mean she has been doing it she's exhausted in this movie and it's really clear and I think that's, you know, she's a really great, you know, avatar for what this kind of a life can lead, can wreck on you.

You know what I mean? If you're not getting wasted every day. I get wasted every day. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's a cautionary tale of what it's like living a life like that. It's also a cautionary tale of, hey, listen, fascist, when you join up with other fascists because you think they love you, they're going to fuck you in the face just as hard. I sure will. Not to spoil too much, but. what an amazing final image go see it you know what i'm talking about yes go see it go see it uh so we got to get going here we are at the top of the hour want to get this in really quickly because i don't want you to have watched this for nothing mr cisco let's talk about some shit you dug up this is a secret movie all right tin soldier tell us all about this master look at this poster this poster's so much more

exciting than the film uh i like the deniro beard is that a real thing what are you talking like he's got a beard in the in the future film yeah barely feature film 80 something minutes um tin soldier my goodness i mean what's great about de nero in this movie is you realize he can sell a movie like everyone else is kind of more you know not they're fine i mean this has jamy fox in it as a cult leader who Scott Eastwood is a former member who has gotten out and he's like a quasi militaryish guy now and it's like sort of like a Waco thing where the government's trying to recruit him to help them storm the compound basically for this cult and that's where De Niro comes in holding a manila envelope and like when he's talking about like what's been going

on like you believe it you buy it then you cut back to scenes of Scott Eastwood and Jamie Fox and you're like it doesn't seem as good as what he was saying because it's like he's really doing a great job of acting it Jamie Fox is kind of all over the place in this and Scott Eastwood is driving

driving around as usual. That's what I was saying is Scott who's in the cult is he what they drive from town to town to get where they need to go and then the government needs them to drive him in because he's a car. Does he have a flatbed? Does he have a flatbed? He does have a flatbed.

He's a good shape in this one. Probably have some nice abs, although you didn't see it. The sin of the movie, though, I mean, it could have been interesting. The real sin is nonstop CG explosions.

Oh, no. Nonstop, nonstop. And there's one good car crash that looked real, though. So, yeah, to the car crash. If you want to watch a car crash,

you got it here. Do you think there's, because there's two kinds of secret movies. movies that intend to be secret movies. That is just like, hey, look, let's just get up, let's get five million bucks. We'll pay the, are the big actors and dump it on Amazon. Or was this a real movie, a movie that someone somewhere wanted to be a real movie that turned into a secret? I think they wanted it to be a real movie.

I feel like getting Fox and De Niro, and it was sort of like maybe an announcement for Scott Eastwood that then they decided to not do. By the way, I did this movie instead of another secret movie that I wanted to do because the other secret movie, was two and a half, almost two and a half hours long. What a what? And I think that secret movie wanted to be in theaters and wanted to break through the zeitgeist and that's called Primitive War, which is a Vietnam War era movie starring Jeremy Piven, of course. And it's about American soldiers in Vietnam who come across dinosaurs and now they're

fighting dinosaurs. That movie was in theaters for a little bit. It was in theaters. It came out. it was out for like a week maybe two weeks at that sounds about right i was about to rent that for this segment but then i was like two almost two and a half hours oh what's tin soldier doing today you have to know when you're getting to nero only for like a couple days unless you're david oh satan you know that you you're not this is not going to go into theaters right like come

no like yeah it's denier at this point he's just doing this stuff to you know keep the rent up on his seven restaurants i'll tell you what chris gabin i ever call just this year as a matter of fact seeing the Alto Knights in theaters so you never know you're going to get but he's leading that I'm saying when you only have him for a couple days to do

you're never getting that into like an actual big theater it's not going to happen Chris Chris is right because De Niro has like maybe four minutes in this movie yeah maybe five who's got more screen time him in this or a Pacino

in the new Gus Van Sant oh shit maybe Pacino by a hair. Oh, wow. Okay. Holy smokes. Either way, Pacino's at least grabbed your attention in that role. That's true. That's true. My God. So there you go. Secret Movie, Man, and that is going to bring us to the end of onscreen live for this week. Of course, the week is just getting started here in the WHMU, of course. Tomorrow, we hate movies

kicking off. You guessed it. The 2025 Halloween Sputtacca with an episode on Needful Things. This is a fun one. We're talking all sorts of Stephen King. a lot of Max von Schido Impressions and Ed Harris yelling all around of course and you can get that guy commercial free on the Patreon of course the ad free tears over on

there Patreon.com slash we at movies we're also on Thursday one last little treat for you this week that's right this once in a lifetime coming up it's a lifetime adjacent it's a Fox made for TV movie from 1991 called The Haunted and yes

it's a secret Ed and Lorraine Warren moving. That's right. It's the Smurl case but it's like a Roshaman thing, right? Like they remember it different than the new movie does. Yes, they certainly remember it differently than the new movie does. Ed and Lorraine,

not so much heroes of this one. But that is going to do it, folks. That's what's going on this week. OSL will return later this month, but not next Monday, so don't look for us then. But we will let you know when we'll be back on the air. But until then, I've been Andrew Jupin.

Steven Sadek. Eric Siska, Chris Cabin. Have a good week, y'all. Bye-bye.