We Hate Movies - S16: On-Screen Live: TV Talk on Starfleet Academy, Wonder Man, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, Industry & more!

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

On this week's On-Screen Live, we were chatting about some current TV we're watching including Wonder Man, Starfleet Academy, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms & more! We were also reacting to a cou...ple trailers, including the surprise teaser for The Adventures of Cliff Booth that dropped Sunday night, and, of course, talking about some big (read: humiliating) commercial moments from The Big Game!Grab your tickets now for the first leg of the 2026 tour! We’ll be in Los Angeles on 2/22, Minneapolis on 3/20 and Chicago on 3/22—don’t wait, snag those tix now!On-Screen Live will return in March!Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.

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Starting point is 00:00:28 What's going on, everybody? Welcome to On Screen Live. This is our show for Monday. The 9th of February, if you can even believe it. My name is Andrew Juppen, and I'm alongside three other smoothed out, de-aged, weird, Botox-looking dudes. We have Steve Zadak. Hey, remember me from your childhood? I'm back. Hi. Oh, God. Eric Siska. Boy, that was so good, Steve. I hope I never have to grow up. And of course, Mr. Christopher Cabin. And all that for a hawking, a jelly, and like mediocre cold brew. Sweet Jesus. How does that, how do you root that back just because it's, it's Ben Affleck and he loves Duncan and everybody knows that.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Get a little tired of that one. Yeah. I get it. It's a little exhausting. Yeah. Can he like something else?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Come on, move on. Making movies. How about that? You do seem to like it, Ben. Exactly. What's going on in the chat, everybody? We got Felipe Sabrero in there. We got Bucyris in there.
Starting point is 00:01:25 James Harris 1101. The Blazing Ding dingo. Pete Robles, 703, Foolish Hooligan. What's everybody? Let's see. Link juicy maffin. Like that. What's going on? To link a juicy maffin. If you know what I mean. Look out. Look out. That's a little early for it. But we got a lot to get to today, including, yes, reactions to some of the most abhorrent trailers from the big game. But first, get into some industry news. I found this to be less than interesting. Austin Butler. and Edward Berger of Conclave, of course, can team up for a Lance Armstrong movie written by the dude who wrote King Richard.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Oh, okay. Sure, yeah. I remember the existing, and it got an award because that's what got the, that was post-SLap, right? It was the night of the, that was the reason for the slap, practically. Oh, okay. The reason for the season. Is this going to address, you think it's going to address all of Lance Armstrong,
Starting point is 00:02:25 what was his name again? Lance Armstrong. Yes, that's correct. Address his crimes, right? Is this the bicycle man? Yeah, bicycle man. The doer kind of almost have, that's what I'm kind of curious about it.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It almost has to be. You can't do a hagiography on Lance Armstrong. No way. We're still like, we're going to do this until someone makes a hit out of this story. Because Stephen Fier's has already made a movie about this. There's already been a documentary about Alex Gibney about this. Like, Alex, the Alex Gibney,
Starting point is 00:02:54 Lance Armstrong and Doc is actually pretty solid. Pretty good. I mean, it wasn't a hit. Like, it was good. It was good, but like, both of those were not hits. And I'm like, what else is there to explore here? It was a very public controversy. Everybody was there reading about it when it was happening.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Like, I don't get it. He's got like one testicle, right? Is that another thing about him? That is another thing. Testicular cancel. It was the whole, yeah, it was the Livestrong bracelets thing, which I think Livestrong turned into a scam at some point. I think that was also part of the story.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah. We were doing some dubious stuff with money. You know what they should do. is hinge it all on the Cheryl Crow relationship. That might that maybe, I didn't know about that. Maybe that's a thing. Maybe that is what you give it a new life because that is certainly
Starting point is 00:03:36 something that has been kept private, rightfully so. But if you're going to make a narrative out of it, why not? She likes guys with one ball. That could be something they could definitely explore. And wouldn't you want Austin Butler to be exploring that region on cinema? Wouldn't that be fun for us?
Starting point is 00:03:52 To look at his test tells. That's what you're saying? Yeah, well, sponsored by Mansk. got it god yeah so i don't know i really liked conclave uh so yeah so we'll see i just think it's a weird like why now you know what i mean that's another part of it new one not so good uh i will say edward berger uh that conclave was good that the uh conclav two is not good no there's a what's this a colin firth uh he's it's a gambler why not netflix to know like no uh remember it was at tiff
Starting point is 00:04:26 Ballot of a small player or something like that. Okay, yeah, I sort of vaguely remember this. I actually didn't, I remember the movie being a tip, but I didn't, I guess, put together that it was an Edward Berger movie. Yeah, yeah. Ballot of a small player. That's it, yes. That was what it was.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Bigger, Rachel. Wow, so that just was completely flushed down the toilet. That's weird. Was it, wait, Chris, did you see it? It was it good? No, a friend of the show, Josh Lewis had seen it, and he was like, no good. And I put it on for about 20, 25 minutes. didn't catch me and I was like, nah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Wow, wow, they just totally fucking flush that. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Down a singing toilet, by the way. You're teasing everything that we're going to be talking about at the end. I love it. But before we get to that, we got to check out what was going on at the paltry box office this weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:13 This is highest gross. So speaking of who was asking for what? And normally I'm not going to say no to this, but like really, Dracula again? I'm ready? I can't even imagine. Luke Bassan to like Yeah. That to be the thing you decide to talk
Starting point is 00:05:39 line man. I guess whatever. Look at that. Cancel culture is dead. I got to say that Dracula, Dracula, Dracula, another dude that definitely had his way with the ladies. Sure. In a not consensual way, Mr. Dracula. Dracula and Cosby are kind of cut from the same cloth.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It is a very romantic take on the character. I will say that. they do uh it's a Caleb Landry Jones is which that dude that dude looks born to play a fucking freakish vampire so well done there he's very good at it he was uh he was freakish in that the first croninburgh uh little Croninberg movie sorry the one before Anti viral yes I think it was called yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:06:21 well he's been Caleb Andrew Jones has been like Luke Bisson's muse for a little bit right oh really dog movie am I crazy you're right dog man yes dog man another remake yes Was that a remake? Okay, yeah. Was that a remake of that Bob Hoskins Jet Lee movie? Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's an Italian one, and I think that's a remake. That one I will. So it's not the children's, it's not the children show where the dog becomes a man. Remember that from last year? He's like an assassin, I want to say. Oh, okay. It does not seem to be a remake, Chris,
Starting point is 00:06:54 because it's just writer Luke DuPasson. A boy, bruised by his life, finds his salvation through the love of his dogs. It's a psychological drama. It's Luke Bisson, so I, didn't watch it. Yeah. Skip.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, he's just, he's all in, which is kind of a bummer because I like Caleb Landry Jones. Like stop, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:12 get out of the, get out of that guy's fucking toolbox. Yeah, seriously. But this was out from a vertical entertainment. You don't see them a lot. Crack the top 10. So that was kind of nice for those folks.
Starting point is 00:07:22 4.5 million, 27 million global rollout already, which is like kind of not great. So expect this to, you know, go away pretty quickly. I'm shocked it was even on the list. I was really shocked that even made any kind of imprint.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I mean, there's been zero advertising as far as I've seen. No. Yeah. Coming in at number four, this was the, it was a K-pop concert film here. Stray Kids, the Dominate Experience. This was out from Bleaker Street, concert film here. You know, 5.6 million, not too shabby, this stuff. Chugging along.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I like this kind of stuff. 19 million globally. You know, so pretty good for a little. concert film. Seems like these things are really latching on to that. It seems like that's going to be a big part of the box office going forward is these kinds of movies. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:13 I expect them. And it just, they all feel like something that would be like when you're in college like, hey, this band is playing on Thursday. I'm like, what is that? I'm not going to that. That's kind of where I've been.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah. I agree with you, Steve. And I think like I got a bold prediction. And I'm saying this is someone who invested in a movie theater that is now closing. I think a 10 years. we don't have suburban or rural movie theaters it's going to be a city thing it's going to be open
Starting point is 00:08:40 Thursday through Sunday and that's it this is this is the death Neil look at this look at this list French Dracula it's February also let's say look at where the fucking calendar is at my friend first of all I'm just saying it's going to be a city thing you're going to have to go to the big
Starting point is 00:08:57 city to see a movie one day it's sad I don't know that I agree with that but we'll see um but you know movie theaters close all the time and then other ones open all the time so you know you never know all this to say though it's it's well it's it's a it's a you know it's a tricky business man it's a very tricky business um but you know i will i will take people going out and seeing stuff i don't i don't think it's going to happen sorry doing anything independent these days it's impossible because big fucking private equity is just going to fucking fuck you in the in the dick and that's oh yeah what they do you know what i mean any any
Starting point is 00:09:31 any cool little independent like bars near me that closed just because somebody wants to turn it into a goddamn real estate is king and you want to flip it into a goddamn apartment building exactly etc and like it's just hard to face that reality hopefully someone's like hey maybe people would like to go places which I think is a good idea yeah yeah people like I would like that but I would love to be proven wrong by the way let's let's earmark this for 10 years and prove me wrong kids circle be wrong. I mean, for what it's worth, Eric, to what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:10:04 in my time in cinema exhibition, I saw a lot of rich people come through asking for consultations on, because they want to open a cinema because they have money. And that's why, like, the Kristen Stewart news, I'm like, okay, that's very cool.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Like, the head is in the right place, all that stuff. But what happens time and again with this kind of stuff is like, then the reality sets in of like, it's a business and you have to figure out how to keep it open. and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So, like, the news about her renovating this theater, very cool, very, very great, but like, there's the steps after that to keep it going.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And a lot of the times, that's what we found with a lot of folks. It's like, you have all this money. You opened it. And then the reality sets end of like, oh,
Starting point is 00:10:46 shit, now I have to run this thing. Or find people to run this thing. At least hers is in a city. You know, I just feel like it's too expensive for a lot of people these days. And it's also because of the fucking windows.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. The wind, it's like, oh, I could wait two days and watch it at home. Well, I mean, and also to what you said about the city stuff, Eric, I mean, we know that the bigger places, the bigger multiplexes are places that you can't, if you're going to sell that real estate, there's not, unless you're willing to demolition the whole thing and get rid of all of that stuff, then you are not, there's nothing else you can use that real estate for. So like a smaller theater, you can demolish that stuff. and it's easy enough to just replace it with some other thing. But like in a city, you can't do that. There's a multiplex that was like 10 screens really close to here where I am, like a five-minute drive.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It's now a planet fitness. There you go. But Chris, to your point, though, like you do see that go both ways. And I've seen it go both ways here in the city downtown. The Regal Union Square, that was going to happen to it. And then they were like, oh, it's going to cost way too much money to do anything else with it. So it's still open. also that theater fucking pumps out box office
Starting point is 00:11:59 so that landlord's just a scumbag. But the reverse of that, though, is the synoply that was on 23rd Street that had been a bunch of theaters throughout the years. They just leveled that fucking thing on 23rd Street. It's just a lot now. So it's a tricky business, but we'll keep going here. Number three, we were talking about this
Starting point is 00:12:15 last week, Iron Lung, the two hour and seven minute Markiplier Studios Web, whatever. Another 6.2 million, though, pretty cool. Has anyone seen this Chris, have you seen this? No, I haven't gone to this one yet. I read the description. It sounds like a Christian film. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Oh, really? It takes place after the rapture. Oh, no. So I'd be dead then. That's how that works. I wouldn't have to worry about any of this. French Dracula, K-pop, Christian YouTube. Let's keep going. This is a Christian YouTube. This is a 66% drop from its number two slot, which people were actually thinking he was going to be closer to 70s. So, you know, a little retention there, fine. 31 million total domestically. And again, with a budget of under 3 million, way to go, dude. You know, you and your followers, I'm sure are very happy with this. That's very cool.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Okay. So in the distant future, an event called the Quiet Rapture calls all stars. What is that like a soft opening? Quiet Rapture? It's like, we're going to see. We have to do a quiet rapture, friends and family only. The Raptures in rehearsals. We're going to premiere it a little later.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We'll see it. All planets and stars mysteriously vanish. Only those with space stations and spaceships remaining. The human population is very few. So it might not be Christian. A lot of the chat is saying it's not Christian, but I'm sorry, you put that R word in there. I'm marking you down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That's fair. That's fair. So then here we go. I did not see this coming. Kevin James, this is where he's at these days. Angel Studios presents Solo Mio. this is the big this is insidious because this is this is angel studios this is your sound of freedom or whatever
Starting point is 00:14:03 and like hey it's just Kevin James on a sad fun vacation this could be at Adam Sandler movie I guarantee you Jesus is waddling it's fat ass in that movie I guarantee a sex trafficking romantic comedy for Valentine's Day would be tough that would be a rough one to round the square on that one the yeah the funniest thing about this poster though can oh you can all right let me take the uh cryon down for a second here because this is very funny.
Starting point is 00:14:27 So it says Valentine's Day and then immediately below that in theaters February 6th. Okay. It's the title. Solo Mio Valentine's Day? Is that the title? Oh,
Starting point is 00:14:40 oh, yeah. Eric, you're right. It's part of the Valentine's Day cinematic universe now. Oh, of course. I can't wait for solo meo colon president's day.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, I saw that trailer and it was just like Oh, really? Yes, it was a regular Kevin James movie. I was like, got it. That guy getting left at the altar? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And it's just a key sad. And like, people are like, hey, fat guy go on vacation. You can have fun. And then like, it is from Angel Studios. I'm like, oh, nice try, motherfucker. Yeah. It was just so like at the end. Like, by the way, it's an angel studio. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Like, yeah, you're in, you're in fucking Rome there, it looks like. Like, yeah, he's
Starting point is 00:15:17 fucking going to Vatican City. I bet. The Pope's going to help him find love. He gets left at the altar, I believe in this That alone, I might have to check this out just to see that happen and just enjoy that moment for a little bit. But then finds an Italian lady. What a stat from our boy, KJ here. His last two big studio theatrically released movies that were not animation. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Oh, God. We're looking at Paul Blart 2 in 2015, so 11 years ago. And then grownups, too, in 2013. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the only one the finances dude outside the sandman is
Starting point is 00:15:59 your sex trafficking warehouse. Well, he got the shame hard. Like he started not liking the fact that everybody thought he was like a soft and funny guy. Because now he's like, I'm a serious actor. I'm doing like a serious romantic movie.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's not like I'm a big fat guy running around and doing stuff. He was a serial killer too, right? He was, yeah. He's playing a Nazi in that Becky. movie. So, oh, that's what it is? Oh, he's a Nazi serial killer? He's like a white supremacist, you know, square that however you want to. Split that hair if you want to. But he's a white supremacist, part of a white supremacist gang who's like, well, we call those patriots these days, Chris. Sorry, those are noble patriots. We don't call those Nazis, God.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Sorry. Burn a few crosses. Those are just legitimate elected officials now. Also, he's gotten rid of the rug, which I really appreciate. Dude, he looks so much, everybody looks so much better once the rug comes off. Except the thing. Yeah. Just just buy it. It's fine, man. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Send help was at number one. Yeah. There we go. So not Melania. No. Melania's gone. Dracula beat Melania? That's a Slovenian tale,
Starting point is 00:17:12 if I ever heard one. It's an experiential thing. People are happy to see this in the theaters is kind of the idea, which I mean, it's a paltry 10 million, but I'm happy to see like a real movie make some money. here. And I think it's exactly what you were saying last week, Eric, about this is like word of mouth. People are actually, people who didn't get to catch it last week are actually coming out to see it. And like, maybe not as much to like really push it as much as we want to, but enough to keep the number one spot, I'll take it. Like that's a good story to hear. And also, thank God,
Starting point is 00:17:45 nobody put it on fucking streaming already. Like, because you know they were probably thinking of that. Because like, it's a nice opening, but it's not like the best thing you could ever hope. And that is enough to make them go streaming now these days. The wild thing about this movie, I just was reading about it. I don't know if I mentioned this last week. Sony had this originally. And they wanted to just put it direct to streaming. And Ramey was like, no.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And that's why it's at 20th century and Disney, which is crazy. But speaking of the word of mouth thing, just a 48% drop, which is that's a really, really nice hold. So the only thing that's weird is it's not working internationally. there was only 18 million internationally with all but like one region yet to open which is France I think so I don't know but 40 million dollar budget
Starting point is 00:18:33 it's it's chugging along it's gonna be fine I saw some people in the chat asking about it I didn't want to put that graphic up because I don't want to see her fucking face in front of me anymore but Melania dropped to 10 the 10 slot with the funny thing was it dropped to the 10 slot
Starting point is 00:18:49 it dropped it's like a 66% drop in sales and that's with adding more theaters. You see this shit all the time where it's like a movie works and it's only gonna like probably work for that week but then other theaters are like oh no maybe we'll catch the magic
Starting point is 00:19:06 so like it was like 225 more screens nothing lost money. Let me do an obscure quote from Ace Ventura uh oh I think I heard a toilet flush maybe somebody lost a turtle Oh man, yeah, toilet flush indeed. There was something about, like, I guess rotten tomatoes had to come out and be like the audience scores and the critic scores are accurate. They're going to haven't been tampered with or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:33 But then like all these other people think that there is some sort of rotten tomato user score conspiracy thing. And like not conspiracy, but like the numbers are kind of fudge. Like people are just going and voting. I will sign on to that conspiracy theory in a heartbeat. I feel like the audience score being 99%. I guess that's who would go, but it's also just people, organizations,
Starting point is 00:19:57 buying seats and not attending, and then do they vote? Well, and bots can vote. Corporations are people. You can still buy bots and bots can still vote. And like that you don't have to, it doesn't mean they have to be corrupt for that to happen.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Like, you can just have the company do that. That's accepted practice at this point nearly. I don't even see it as a conspiracy. Yeah, so I just think it's very funny That it's already dropped to 10 And then soon enough we'll never have to talk about it ever again Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:29 You know, it's not a conspiracy though Is that in a very short amount of time from now We were going to be back in Los Angeles by the way My goodness We're going to be back at the Hollywood Improv On Sunday the 22nd of this month Talking about Broken Arrow Oh boy
Starting point is 00:20:44 This is trying to make Christian Slater An Action Star didn't quite work out no i think that well i'm just gonna let you guys know that it's my christian slater's just a bad jack nigglson which is christian slater yeah right yeah that's totally fine it's completely fine speed it up a little bit that's all you got to do just a teeny tiny bit and then this was a failure for that also uh future episode cuffs was an attempt to do that oh big time previous episode hard rain was an attempt yes also an attempt this is coming up super fast i'm very excited for this then uh march 20th We're going to be in Minneapolis, Minnesota, talking about Conan the Barbary.
Starting point is 00:21:22 But, yeah, we're really excited about this. Arnold, always killer for on the road. Eric, you love, you love Arnold. Oh, I love, I love talking about Arnold. I love meeting people in all these beautiful cities we go to. And then, you know, giving them my rendition of his mouth noises, like, oh, yeah, exactly. Beautiful. You have the best tension with it.
Starting point is 00:21:45 You get the accent, right? wait, let's go in Stallone. What the fuck did I do wrong? We'll just do this until Andrew's internet. Yes, we're, I mean, like, so we're excited to be warm and then incredibly cold again. Yeah. And the day after, we could just keep going. Yeah, go right about it.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Or not the day after, two days after. Is it the Sunday? The Sunday, March of 22nd, we're going to be in Chicago. talking about big, big old Tom Hanks, looking at you. He's tall, his dick works, probably. Well, that's, we're going to be having a lot of discussions about, you know, responsibility in the relationship between Tom Hanks, who is a child and the woman who decides to make love to him.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yes. That's, we're going to have a long discussion about that, I believe. That's going to be at the Den Theater in Chicago, Illinois. Like Steve said, March 22nd. It's a Sunday night, I believe. and we will be, I'll bring you up and sit you on my lap and we'll talk about a kid who his his wiener was very small and then he got big and I bet that he probably spent a day in the bathroom once he got big.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Sitting in Eric's lap is not a sanctioned event of the meeting meet and greet. No, no. That's post. And we're fine. But you do need to have some kind of payment plan, a cash app or a Venmo for that part of it. That's right. Or a couple loose ones will do. That'll do.
Starting point is 00:23:14 that's always good uh yeah so Andrew seems to not be able to come back so we're gonna we're gonna carry this on we're gonna land this fucking plane guys the three of us that's no what there's Andrew oh good yeah I I really I apologies I got no idea what's going on here I think I have a cold and I think the internet is like this guy sounds like shit get them off here yeah we did all we did all our tour stuff there you're in Chicago big den that's great yeah yes go to uh WHM podcast dot com slash tour for all ticket information. Those are flying fast.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You're going to want to get in on those Los Angeles. It's like next week. And since we'll be live and in person, not one of us will flicker in and out of reality. That's true. Almost impossibly not going to happen. That's true. We all be solid.
Starting point is 00:24:00 We'll be there in person, I swear. No one will be erased from existence. No. Oh, and hey, this Thursday, by the way, we're doing an all new. We haven't done in a while. W.H.M. Mailbag. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So get them letters in. What were we saying, Chris, Wednesday at like noon, just so we have time to call everything. If you can, guys, get me all of your humiliations. I need as many as I can. No, you know, no humiliations too small. If you shit your pants at work and that's all that happened, you got it done. You were able to get to the bathroom and fix it before anyone noticed. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:36 That's not a problem with us. Yes, I would love some caca stories. It's been a while. Maybe a good big vomit one. Please, go nuts. Get your letters in. We all hate movies at gmail.com. We can expand the universe.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I love divorced dad stories. I love loud theater patron stories. I love weirdo video store stories like any of that stuff. Relationship advice. Love that. Oh, I was dating this girl. And then she watched the second Matrix movie. I was like, you like this?
Starting point is 00:25:04 These kinds of questions. Yes. By Thursday morning, really, that's the real deadline. But if you can get to us on Wednesday before noon, that would be great. I think I'm going to make an executive decision. We're going to go out of order here. Eric, do you want to talk about Night of the Seven Kingdoms with me? I would love it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's a great fucking show. Yes, I would love to. We're doing TV recaps. So we're going to go through a bunch of different TV recaps. The first one up on the docket will be Night of the Seven Kingdoms. We don't have an image. You know what that. He's a tall, handsome guy and a little bald kid.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Game of Thrones, Mando and Groku. You got it, right? Oh, yes. It's better than that. It is kind of, I was, it predates Mando and Gros, the novel, the novellas. Honestly, the books are very good for this series. They are collected in one omnibus collection called the Night of the Seven Kingdoms. I really enjoyed reading those a few years ago, which I believe I read before Mandalorian and Grogu existed. But yes, it is that same concept kind of thing, Chris, where you got a little fella and a big fella. And I feel like they've done that, but it's like lone wolf and cubbing. also long Wolf Cup yeah a bunch of stuff it's a long but I think to me the big thing the big headline for this show for me anyway the Game of Thrones brand to me is back I was so out on House of the Dragon because it was so miserableist isn't the right word but pretty close to it like everyone's incestuous and raping each other and God knows what else like I just could not care about any of those white-faced creeps they took like the you know the oh the cool like castle politics and the hyper-sexualization and stuff and made that the show, which I
Starting point is 00:26:47 think was not the move. I feel like in Game of Thrones itself, I always gravitated towards those characters that were on the outs like John Snow. Even the Targary and Danny there was on the out. That's what made her compelling. I don't want to see just a rich asshole and all of
Starting point is 00:27:03 his cousins farting around. Exactly. And I mean, like the dragon stuff, you know, it was one of those things was like, oh man, you know, the later part of Game of Thrones, like, here come the dragons and then this one's like we're going to start with dragons and like that's great but like clearly that
Starting point is 00:27:19 wasn't the driving force why that show worked you know what I mean it was the human drama and I actually think that I like the small episodes Eric I'm a big fan Wonder Man which we might talk about if Andrew comes back does that that's the other thing about House of the Dragon
Starting point is 00:27:35 it's like those hour plus episodes really grind me down like 35 minutes 45 minutes that's a TV show I think people were also tired of just, they had just gotten over Game of Thrones and we were coming back to it too quickly into the same kind of,
Starting point is 00:27:50 it was the same lineages. And like, I know this is also connected with all that stuff. Somebody was passing along a clip of the little torture king from Game with Thrones. Oh, Joffrey. Going through a book and saying, oh,
Starting point is 00:28:07 what's his name? The tall. Like, isn't he a grand character? And it's like, oh, so yeah, it is. There, but have you, it's, it's, it's far, it's far enough away. It's gone enough that we are not connected to that, I feel, anymore. Right. That's why I was interested in it, at least. Maybe someone in the chat could correct me, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like House the Dragons are also part of the problem with that was it's, it's based on like a paragraph in like one of his history books that it's just like, at least with Duncan Ag here, you got source material. to gleam from. And then you're just making it up about all these albinos having sex. Well, no, you're totally right,
Starting point is 00:28:51 Eric, because I think that the story is more compelling, probably because it's coming from a real source material, like the twist of eggs lineage, which I don't want to spoil here, because it's a fun little... I personally didn't see it coming. I mean, the world's biggest idiot, and I didn't Google it beforehand.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I was like, oh, that's cool. Oh, the turn. Yeah, no, I was wondering when it was going to happen in the show because I knew it from reading the books. and I'm kind of glad it's out of the way because people are going to guess it pretty fast, I'd think. Yeah, and then, you know, and that, but that's the thing is an hour off to the races.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I like the light touch. The humor is very good. We haven't talked to it with the big cock, Eric, the huge fucking cock that, what's his name, sir, what's his face? His, uh, Dunk's old master there. Delicious. I forget the name, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah, but he's got, I was surprised. A, the first scene of the first episode almost has him shitting, has dunk shitting. from behind a tree. You see shit coming out of a butt. Okay. And then in the second episode,
Starting point is 00:29:46 you see piss coming, literally firing out of a cock. I was surprised by this. It's awesome. Yeah, I wouldn't expect that from a show, but I guess that does, I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:58 Sir Penny Tree we got. There we go. He's got the big horse cock. That's right. Well, these, now I know there's a big cock in it, I'm very interested.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I, because I was wondering about that. Because I didn't get a lot of that. in the House of Dragons. That is a Game of Thrones special, and I was missing it, is some more Cox. Do you,
Starting point is 00:30:18 so Chris, you've not watched this at all. I haven't gone to this one yet. I've been going through all the, I've been focusing on pit as far as catching up lately, but that one, yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:29 I've been meaning to get to it. Have you watched, the pit I'm watching. I'm a little behind on it. It's been a fun season so far. It is, right? I think they're doing really good so far. They can't,
Starting point is 00:30:40 I mean, the problem. of course is that like they went into express mode getting this second season out because the first season was something so special like trying to it's a little bit of a curse trying to go into this and trying to even equal that is a is a tough fucking ass and like I think they're doing a pretty good job of expanding the drama not making the same thing
Starting point is 00:31:07 that made the first season so special and trying to make its own thing, not pressing the panic button yet. We'll see that happens even. I'll see, but I'm really loving it. All the characters, all the new interns and doctors to be are really good.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That tall dude needs to get fucking shot. But I love that you have a character like that. You need a character like that. Yes. But also a big, got a big penis on that show. Nice hard cock on that show. Oh yes. It is good.
Starting point is 00:31:40 But I understand, Chris, you were watching some show that none of us had been watching, and I would love to hear your thoughts on industry. Industry. So I had found out that this was all of a sudden the biggest thing in the world. I had just been casually trying to catch up on it. I'm just up to date, and I think it's a great show. I really think, like Lena Dunham had directed the pilot. That was the big story when this show started. And it is funny how similar it is to girls in that like the first two seasons, I feel like they are really trying to find their footing.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Like they don't know exactly what the tone is. They don't know exactly what they want the drama engine to be. But they find it in the third. In both cases, they find it in the third season. So it's just like off to the races. Like that's the problem. No, no. I think the first two seasons are very good.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Still, it's just not the same kind of drama. There's an assuredness that they find in the. those seasons that is not in those first and there's a good thing to that too because you're exploring these characters and you don't know where it's going to go it's very tense but the third and fourth seasons are not about just building tension which a lot of tv is now is just like deploying different ways of building and then destroying tension it's actually exploring characters which is what i want shows to be ultimately i got one follow-up question for you there chris what is the industry what is the industry i think it's people uh eric if i have been resources people
Starting point is 00:33:10 Well, that's not even a company? Has a lot to do with it, yes. Is it one company that, like, is going through whatever? Pierpoint is the original company. It's about these characters who start there. Harper and Yaz are the main characters, the two ladies you saw on the poster there. Yaz, of course, played by Marissa Abel.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Oh, yeah, from Black Bag. and she played what's her, Amy Winehouse and the not seen biopic that came out. Nobody saw that movie, but she was player. John Snow is also in this. How is Kit Harrington in this show?
Starting point is 00:33:53 You know, actually it's a, it's a warehouse for like good actors who have been in other things, like who actually come in and have fun. Like, I think Kit Harrington's really good and he's playing, you know, a wealthy, a tech guy. You know, I would say he's an Elon type. except for like he's actually like you understand the charm of him and it's just because kid harrington
Starting point is 00:34:12 he's a very you know good looking guy and a charming guy as well is he throughout the series he's only he starts in the beginning of the third season uh this third season man it's all about the third season because they built all the characters because the first two i will say first two seasons have david johnson who it leaves at the end of the second season okay uh and he's great he's really what about uh kieran chipka which is a name I love to say. She's good. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:34:41 The real surprise was Stranger Things guy. Charlie Heaton, I think his name is. He plays a journalist in the fourth season. And he's really fucking good. And he figures in very tightly with the best character, Rishi, who I can't. It's an unbelievable. They just ran New York Magazine had a good interview
Starting point is 00:35:04 with the guy who plays him. a cigar hold on i'm gonna get the name right because cigar radia he's been so fucking good on he's been on since the second season uh and he was a little bit in the first season but he really becomes a character in the second one and then the third and fourth he dominates he's so so freaking good in this show i'm gonna ask you one more question then we'll go on i'll do a capsule of wonder man really quickly but what what is the comp that's what i've always been kind of unclear of like what is the show like if you like this you'll like that well that it's interesting. Maxianghella comes in
Starting point is 00:35:37 in the end of the third season and part of what I think finding the dramatic engine is it does start taking on a tone and a like even like the drama the way of they talk becomes more like social network.
Starting point is 00:35:55 The first two seasons are much more about the drama of like being found out. So it is more like girls. Like if you like girls it's essentially girls in the business sector, like in finance and London rather than New York. What do you mean by found out? Expand on that. Found out. You said it.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Like people are like building up like in finance. Like a lot of it is building up lies. And then like people call you on those lines. You get found out before you want to be found out. Right. These are. Because that's what you got to do. If you want to make it an industry, you got to.
Starting point is 00:36:33 to have a web of lies. And wow, look at this. A rave review from Chris Cabin. Another web of lies is that Wonder Man. Oh, look, who's back? The Wonder Man himself. Yeah, we'll see how long this fucking shit lasts. God damn it. It's all right. You guys have been great, by the way. Thank you. I don't think so, but thanks. What does you, Andrew, think of Wonder Man? The TV series. I watched it all in a single day. I really, really liked it. I was genuinely surprised. I'm a sucker for a good. industry set series. Not to be confused with that show Chris was talking about
Starting point is 00:37:08 that I haven't seen a fucking second of and have no plans to watch. But I watched this all in a day. I think Yaya's fucking great. Him and Ben Kingsley together. I mean, the thing that's really cool about it is like it is not a superhero show in any capacity. And I don't think that's really a spoiler. Like he's not flying around doing shit.
Starting point is 00:37:28 It's a very cool. Like he's trying to be in this movie that is a wonder. Man movie and he's a dude who has superhuman powers and he's trying to hide that from people because superhuman people can't be in the entertainment industry. There's a whole not great backstory episode that they have about that. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a cold open. Yeah, that is a cold open to a television show and that dude wasn't that great playing that doorman characters, sorry, but overall, I really, really loved it.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And like you guys were saying about the new Game of Thrones show, 34 minutes. 32 minutes on these episodes Oh my goodness I watched it in about a week and change Oh because you're not a total psycho like I am I think Yeah sure
Starting point is 00:38:14 But moderation is key But it's you know I really enjoyed it I really liked it a lot But it's it's a little There's that internet meme or Twitter joke Surf Dracula
Starting point is 00:38:25 There's a little Surf Dracula there Where is I don't know what that means The joke there The joke of Surf Dracula is If there's a show called Surf Dracula the 1960, that Dracula would be surfing every week. If there's a show about Surf Dracula now, at the end of the season, he would get on the surf. Got it. And there's a
Starting point is 00:38:41 tiny bit of that in terms of like they're keeping his powers in. There isn't a lot of action, but it is more of industry comedy than not. You know what I mean? That's what it. That is the mode of the show. And I actually don't want them to be fighting. By the end of it, I didn't want them be fighting supervillains. Although in the beginning, you're like, so who's the bad guy? Is it, You know, is it going to be this, what's his face from Succession, Stewie from Succession? Oh, Aaron. I mean, yeah, he's kind of like the antagonist because he's working for like the government agency or whatever that's damaged control for superheroes or whatever. And he's great.
Starting point is 00:39:17 But yeah, it is. Yes. And not that it's absent of conflict. It's just absent of that kind of conflict. And I'm totally fine with it. It was very, very refreshing. And Kingsley is a lot of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I think he's having a blast here. At first, I was a little. like I don't know about that's the weird thing is I think the first two episodes it takes a second to kind of get into it you know what I mean and actually a buddy of ours just J. Case texted me the other day is like what are you watching? I was like I really liked Wonder Man
Starting point is 00:39:43 he's like I watched the first two and I didn't like it and I'm like that I don't think you should continue because literally if you're not into that thing the Ben Kingsley and Yaya Matin you're probably not going to enjoy the rest of the show you never know season three might be a bangor follow the industry model.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And somebody in the chat, there's great Joey Pants. Joey Pants has not been better in the last decade, at least in what I've been watching. There's a lot of fun Joey Pants, a lot of self-he plays himself. He's got a mansion, Eric, which is kind of funny. I like that. If you're a We Hate Movies fan, you know where Joey Pants lives and it's not a palatial Hollywood mansion. No, no. And the get-up that they have him.
Starting point is 00:40:25 He's in two episodes. The first episode that he's in, he looks like Clint Howard. Like I'm sorry, he's got this long, like, horseshoe Clint Howard mullet that they give him and like these glasses that are very more Clint Howard than Joey Pants. It's very, very funny. This is kind of talking me into it. And by the way, folks at home, if you want to see the inside of Joey Pants's real house, we have the scoop on YouTube. Go to our YouTube shorts, I think. And you could see Joey Pants' house as he yells at us.
Starting point is 00:40:54 If you want to watch Joey Pants' dogs bark in the background in the middle of a. what is a paid job that he got and the dogs are in it and he doesn't care enough to go in the other room nor should he not saying you should but want to let you know that man was being paid those dogs were there and he didn't give a shit but he's a he's a he's a profession don't worry about i also just like thinking of cameos as a paid job it's a page it is a paid i mean it is it is it is i'm kind of curious of the wonder man of it all like where where this is the problem like that was a fun show and it ends with like a and here we go kind of a thing. And like obviously what the second season is going to be is this going to be is he
Starting point is 00:41:37 going to be in doomsday. Is he going to do that. You know these kinds of questions which are abound because that's that's what the world. But thankfully there's no one like at the end of it that's like yeah. Hey wonder man. You want to come wonder man it up with the you know this team over here like none of that. And also it's awesome that it's a movie or it's a show that. really amps up the importance of Iron Man 3.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Like it makes the story of Iron Man 3 more relevant again in the world. And I'm cool with that because that's one of my favorite Marvel movies, man. Well, that makes me interested. Yeah. That certainly makes me interested. So Eric, you and I were watching Starfleet Academy. I think we were the only ones checking out this mediocre show. I believe so.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I only watched the first three. I did not get to. I think there's one or two after them. Yeah. Yeah. we just see that poster one more time? I love this poster because it looks like one tree hill with a
Starting point is 00:42:35 It does, yep, which is kind of exciting to me. Yeah. I got notes on the Klingon. Oh, please. Does every Klingon need to just talk like a monster now? It's just like, I'm a Kremlin monster from the planet murder.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, they do this thing where like this actor's voice is modded, and I'm like, oh no. Michael Dorn just fucking talked like warf, dude. Like, you know, you don't speak of the fucking auto tune that I was hopefully not hearing anymore. But he just, yeah, there's there's like a, his voice is kind of based out a little more. And he's like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm not crazy about this like new way we're doing clingons. It's voice wise anyway. It's like a wharf impression through a computer. I mean, we had Christopher Plummer quoting Shakespeare as a clingon. Yes. Can I ask the question everybody wants to answer? How much Giamati are you getting in the episodes? So far one scene in the first episode.
Starting point is 00:43:35 This is just not good news to me. He's in more of the first episode, I think. He'll be big in the third season, is what I heard. He's present in the first two episodes and then he's gone. I was drunk. I was drunk. I mean, he's all over that pilot. He's all over the pilot.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I was not that impressed with the pilot. I also think that if we're ditched, in the Calvin timeline, we're not doing those movies anymore. Can we stop with the JJ Abrams style? It just feels so cold and sterile. I think TOS and TNG feel like a warm bath. I just don't like how slick everything is. I mean, that's just modern everything. That's not going to go away. I can make it go away. Well, yeah, you can turn it off anytime you want. The thing that I think is interesting, sort of, but I really, it's only working for me one way. So the whole idea behind
Starting point is 00:44:32 what we're doing here, so for Chris and Steve, this is set in the discovery timeline, the midway through discovery, they go 900 years into the future, never to return. So that's where it's set. So that's like where Starfleet's at now, all this stuff. So they're just
Starting point is 00:44:48 reopening Starfleet Academy after this cataclysmic event that I'm not going to explain, but billions of life forms all over the galaxy died because of something Starfleet related sort of. That goddamn Thanos. Yeah, sort of like a Thanos
Starting point is 00:45:04 level event kind of deal, right? So they're rebuilding Starfleet Academy. So this is like the first class that's back at Starfleet Academy. And what they do, that I think is really cool is the ship. The ship is the school and the school is the ship. And so it can take off and it goes through space, but then it also can land
Starting point is 00:45:21 in San Francisco on the campus and it's just the school. The episodes that are in space are the ones that are just undeniably better than the ones that are set at the school because so far the ones that are set at the school we're doing like school kind of things like it's not
Starting point is 00:45:37 90210 but it kind of is there's also like this so there's Starfleet and then there's like the Federation War Academy that was created and so there's like rival schools on the campus so we're like pranking people and flirting and doing that kind of shit
Starting point is 00:45:54 and I'm like Penny Ray yeah and I'm like just get into space and have some adventures. I will say with that Klingon guy, he has an episode in like the, it's like episode four I think, where they spell out a little bit of his
Starting point is 00:46:06 history and everything. And the interesting thing that they are doing with the Klingons is the Klingons are almost extinct at this part of the timeline. So there's some interesting stuff there. It is dishonorable for me to stick a pickle up my rectum. That's true. It is. And walk like a
Starting point is 00:46:24 duck. And also I would say the guy, let's see if I can pinpoint him on here I will not steal a pig I will not do that the dude right in the lower part he's holding hands with the lady there on the white yeah so that guy's
Starting point is 00:46:41 kind of like the main character and it fucking sucks like I really don't like the character the guy's like a fine actor but it's this this like he's the fucking best at everything and he's a John Wick kind of fighter and he knows all this other shit but he's like fucking 18 years old you know it's like
Starting point is 00:46:57 No, thank you. It's almost to the point where I was like, the second episode is all him just being a whiny bitch. And I wanted to turn it right off. So I will say it is only for the most hardcore of Trek people that just want to like see what's going on. But I don't think it's good though. She's very good. Oh, there you go. She's very good.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And barefoot a lot of the time is well too bad. She's the head of the school. Who is she? Yeah. Yep. She's the head of the school. She plays like, yeah, she's a Starfleet captain who is linked to this annoying boy character from his childhood. I'm not going to get into it.
Starting point is 00:47:35 But she's trying to like basically make good on a wrong decision Starfleet made with him and his mother earlier on. All this to say, you know, not great. Yeah. It was also kind of nice to see Robert Picardo again. But the explanation is kind of like, what? Yeah, it's nice that he's getting that. I will say that explanation, though, is kind of true to the doctor character from Voyager. Basically, he's like, I've rewritten my program to make me older.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And it's like, it is stupid, but that's kind of what that guy was always sort of doing on that show. So, but yeah, that's like a nice little. I like him. Okay. So what do we want to do? We want to try to do a trailer segment here? Yeah, let's do it. My God, Almighty.
Starting point is 00:48:22 A little out of order, but that's okay. Yeah, let's get into it. This is trailer segment. Hi, aye, aye, aye, aye. So Steve, you had this idea. We're going to do a trailer segment a little differently from here on now. You want to just to kind of explain what we're going to do instead? Yeah, I think just we initially always thought we'd be able to watch the trailers with you,
Starting point is 00:48:50 put the trailer up in the thing and then talk over it, like our commentaries. Since you can't do that, I think it's weird to sync up with other people. And then like, we're just kind of look at mouth agape. Like, that was weird. Yeah. So let's review the trailers. Like, we review everything else. So that's sort of the idea.
Starting point is 00:49:06 So these are trailer reviews in trailer segment as opposed to watch a lot. Exactly. So the first one, of course, we cannot resist this. Obviously, this was a surprise during the big game. But yes, the Adventures of Cliff Booth, this is the fake letterboxed poster. Okay, God. I was going to say, that's a bad poster. No, this is what Letterbox has to offer.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But, yes, written by QT, directed by David Fincher on Netflix sometime in 2026, no release date yet. But this is, you know, it's Cliff Booth. It is after the events of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, you do hear Elizabeth DeBickey being like, oh, you helped out Rick Dalton with that fucking, you know, big adventure with the Nazis up in the hills, right? The flamethrowers. I'm confused because Elizabeth DeBecke is playing a big, tall lady producer, and that's the same character she had in Maxine.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So this is a Maxine extended universe situation. Yes. How about that? Yeah. Cliff Booth going into a video store, fucking murdering people. and just call it the big tall lady producer universe which is something I'd watch Oh of course
Starting point is 00:50:12 Oh the BTLP The BTLP you Yeah yeah yeah But yeah you know there's cool shit here We're watching exploitation films in a theater What I did like about this It is truly a teaser like you don't know Yes
Starting point is 00:50:24 Really much about it You get these like Filipino dudes chasing after him It appears I love this shot Dude with a fucking hammer coming down a hallway I mean the Fincher The Fincher's shot are so great. I'm I'm excited
Starting point is 00:50:38 for this. It's going to be weird having Tarantino Fincher mashup game. I want it. I like I think that actually it's okay to give Tarantino's words, so I'm tamping down. Like, Frencher's style is different from his. It's not a, it's
Starting point is 00:50:54 much more tighter. It's much more about the cuts and all and like the tightness of a scene. And like, honestly, I've liked both the last two Netflix Fincher movies, I think, are very good. Yes. The Killer and Mank, I think, are both very good. I think the killer is fantastic. I love it.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yes, and I will not say anything about Mank. There's a little nuts and gum together at last with the Fincher, Tarantito Masha. But Fincher has done this before. He always kind of works with big, you know, I would say big ego screenwriters. You've got, I mean, like, look at, yeah, sorkin. You know what I mean? And he made it his own while still feeling sorkenie. So if he can do that with this.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm really curious to see what this looks like more than anything else. I have guarded expectations, but I'm really curious. It's like, one of the movies that I want to see the most this year because of that. Someone in the chat asking, yeah, just to confirm, it's a movie. It's not a TV show. This is a movie. I just did some research here. So you have a poster
Starting point is 00:51:56 here for looking for Mr. Goodbar. This possibly means this takes place sometime in 1977. That's when the film came out to give you that. But we got like Cliff Booth doing like a demolition. and Derby thing here. Sure. That's great. Man, I would love to see this in a movie theater. I know that's not possible.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I did want to highlight this because it's a blink and you miss it because we're doing all these like scratching out quote unquote offensive things. But I do like a little nod to Rick Dalton here, a little frozen margarita on the bar there.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Speaking of D.H., I mean, he's looking fucking smoothed out here. I think it's just he's getting bad work done maybe. I would hope it's bad work. we're not watching a fucking Dunkin' Donuts commercial. Jesus, we'll get to that. But yeah, it doesn't have the sheen. Yeah. Coming soon. But yeah, Eric,
Starting point is 00:52:44 you're right. I wish everybody could see this in theaters. You know, we're close enough to the Paris where they'll have it up. And, you know, hopefully they do good by putting it in other theaters like they did with, like I think they actually to say something nice about Netflix for once. I think they did a good job.
Starting point is 00:53:00 The expansion of Frankenstein, Frankenstein was in a lot of theaters. I mean, comparatively, you know. Or Netflix. Yeah, exactly. So hopefully they keep it up with this and hopefully. Yeah. If you live in a big city, you got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And then the other one, this is just, I don't even know this was coming, but fucking minions and monsters. So this is the third minions solo movie. Oh my God. This is so what I got, I watched this morning because it was like, it was only like the minion being like, watch my trailer or whatever the fuck. So you have to watch trailer outside. Whatever he says.
Starting point is 00:53:35 The logo. it lets you know, this is a backdoor pilot from whatever this monster reverse is going to be. It's just so clearly, the little cute green guy is going to be like, you don't know? Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:53:47 They're bringing, clearly they're going to bring back the classic animated feature, Monsters versus aliens. Oh, of course. And the monsters of those are going to come back and they're going to be versus them. No, no, no, it's just some monster.
Starting point is 00:54:00 If you look on IMDB, though, there is something that was already called minions and monsters from 2014. It's like a short. so I think this might be like an expansion on some DVD extra or some shit that they shoved out somewhere. I just want to know where are all those good God-fearing Christians that protested Harry Potter and things like that.
Starting point is 00:54:20 This has got a seance. The fucking minions are telling your kids to worship the goddamn devil. And we're all right. Oh, well, the devil's cute. Yeah, well, they're cute. Oh, it's Cthuloo, dude. No. Cthuloo's in on that.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yeah, it's a lovecraft thing. So he's at least a little anti-Semitic so the Christian. Yeah, I think he'll. And this also, I think it's at least for a little bit of it is, I mean, this is, it's an industry picture. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Because it starts with the minions are making a movie. You got this fucking Super Mario director here. And then what he does is they go to Muso and Frank and he's like, hey, pitch me your next idea minions. And they're like, we want to make a monster movie. And I guess the idea is they want realism. them, they want real monsters, and that's why they're
Starting point is 00:55:05 doing all the fucking, you know, Cthulhu shit, but then they just get this little guy. I mean, you're a real monster. You're a minion. Put a knife in your hand, and I'm scared shitless. I like this blob, almost killing this minion. This is a cool little moment. I don't like the, the minion vibe he brings on my fucking set, okay? I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:55:25 He killed his fucking minion wife, okay? Yeah. He's bopping asses in the parking lot. He almost killed Bruce Lee with his ass bump. I do like this final gag here of like there's a mummy. And then you see on the left there, there's a bathroom you see. And they've run out of toilet paper so they use the mummy. And then he turns into a skeleton, which is kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Oh, great. Yeah, let's desecrate a desecrate human remains as well. Let's add that to the list. Oh, yeah. I think this, I mean, aside for the, I guarantee you, we are, we are Brandon out of backdoor pilot. But if this is like 71 minutes, sure. But if this is, please don't make this a two-hour film. please dear God don't make this a two hour
Starting point is 00:56:04 film yeah what was the 105? 105 that sounds right yeah 105 so then definitely you're in the theater for over two hours with the fucking 25 oh for oh for sure with all that stuff oh 100% I will say and I'm on the last
Starting point is 00:56:20 minion movie was 90 minutes so there you go that's that's the benchmark work that was the rise of grew or whatever that grew he's like little no just regular regular regular minions well so that's though there's minions but then minions rise of grew was the second one. That's why I'm saying this is the third minions movie.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah. Rise of crew, 87 minutes. Okay. So that's hopefully, now we're getting there. Mr. Coffin, keep the runtime for this one
Starting point is 00:56:43 exactly where it needs to be. Because I've gone on record, I think that first Minions movie is funny. Minions through the ages, it's very stupid. You know, just get fucking stoned
Starting point is 00:56:55 and watch them bop ass through time. That's why you have the minion tattoo on your lower ankle. That's it. Mm-hmm. And so I flash it out, you know, to let other people, other, you know, minion fans are like, hey, you know what's up. Look at my ankle.
Starting point is 00:57:11 You got to have something to do during vacation. That's right. All right. Let's talk about the big game, mainly all the bullshit commercials that came along with the big game. I will say Super Bowls that are built on the battle of the defenses do not make for exciting Super Bowls, unfortunately. I'm a Bronx book.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I will always root against New England teams as if like my team is beating them, which is stupid. So I was, I had fun last night. But other than that, you know, no. And these,
Starting point is 00:57:41 these commercials were, we're horrifying. Um, they used to like put money into commercials for this. This used to be a big thing. You know, you would have an actual, now it's just AI slop seemingly.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. It's, well, AI slop or advertising you to buy more AI. Yes. Yeah. Tell me how to fucking take a shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:01 What's the weather like? AI. Is my mother going to die? AI should I get a gambling addiction? Yes. Okay. Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yep. Or that fucking robocop ring commercial with it's like, oh, dude, you'll never lose a puppy again because we're doing the thing that happens at the end of the movie, the dark night. Like, are you crazy? Dude, it's so. How is this okay? It's so fucked up that they wrap that up in this totally fake.
Starting point is 00:58:25 So when your dog runs away, I could not believe that everyone, if you have a ring thing throw it in the fucking garbage, dude. Yes. Oh my God. If your dog runs away, not if there's a, I don't know, like a stray Guatemalan grubhub worker that we want to fucking track down and execute the street. It's not, it's never going to be that. It's for little puppies. It's for buttons. Little buttons,
Starting point is 00:58:51 dude. If buttons runs away, ring will help you. Ring will save the day. Your beautiful fur baby. That's what that's what this is all about. Oh, man. So we had, so I'm going to to just go through them here. We'll talk about it. We had liquid IV throwing their hat in the ring for one of the most disgusting ones, singing toilets.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And the whole thing was this was, oh, is your piss too yellow? Drink more liquid IV. Hey, piss at my mouth. Look at my mouth. Hey, I'm a toilet. Piss in my mouth. I'm thirsty. Thank you, Daddy. Take a dump in me next.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Oh, I couldn't. I'm possibly. I'm so far. All right. Oh, your shit tastes so good. Oh, more fiber. Oh, that's good. So you had that, which the thing that beat it, though, this was during the pre-show. Manscape swooped in.
Starting point is 00:59:46 We're going to have pubes singing. I was spock. I missed this. I watched this this morning. What the fuck. It's also weird how similar it is to the singing toilet commercial. It's almost the same vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Pubes.
Starting point is 01:00:01 They both end with a toilet toilet. Pubes Toilet Put your pubs in me I'm the toilet I'm so sad I'm your pubes Why'd you get rid of me?
Starting point is 01:00:12 They feed the pubs To the toilet At the end of that Manscape commercial That's right Your balls are gonna get cold I mean that thing is more unsettling Than things in the dark crystal
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yep That is Without question Genuinely unsettling Also I mean I don't know how you guys Play at home But just fucking
Starting point is 01:00:31 shaving right onto the floor there I mean, you gotta do better than that. Jesus Christ, like a fucking barber shop with this shit. Look at that. And also, how long are you letting that get, man? Jesus Christ. Hey, you know, good call. Sometimes you just get into a groove, you know, Steve.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah, that's fair. Cicin-o man shit, dude. Come on. I just curl it into a ponytail. We had Adrian Brody sort of poking fun at himself in a fucking turbo tax commercial. Don't you got enough money, pal? Yeah, I would hope.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Also, turbo tax. because you can't file directly with the government anymore. Trump got rid of that. You have to pay an outside source to file your taxes. That's right. I do want to say the Bad Bunny halftime show just really quickly was amazing. Yes, yeah. It's kind of, it was a real, it was a great, it was really fun.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I mean, I'm not the world's biggest fan of his music. I'm not listening to it today. You know, that's totally fair. But the idea, laying the trap where it's like, here's this incredible. positive thing where I literally say God bless America, but I also bring up all of the other countries in the Americas.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Everyone is like, this is an anti-American ad. That makes you fucking stupid. Yeah, if you think that you're fucking stupid. You just, you have zero visual comprehension. You don't know how to look at something and translate what it actually means. You might need to go back to school, find some adult education classes or something. I don't know how to help you.
Starting point is 01:01:56 If you were incensed by that, you're just wrong. You're just wrong. And yeah, like, I don't fucking speak Spanish. I wish I did. I don't. I didn't understand 95% of the song lyrics, but like, I don't understand most song lyrics. Like that's that whole notion of like, I can't understand what he's saying. Like, all right, but you're not fucking batting a thousand with lyrics anyway. I guarantee you're singing like a fuck wrapped up like a douche, a runner in the night. Like all that shit. Yeah. Also, you just dropped your kids off to see the K-pop documentary. Yeah. No, no. It's, I mean,
Starting point is 01:02:30 some people are just getting. off of being angry. Like, that's just what they have now. That's their only funnel to anything is to just be angry about it. That's what fuels them. But, like, this is also, like, the most visually dynamic halftime show
Starting point is 01:02:43 I've seen in so long. And somebody pointed out, the guy who did it, this guy, Steeze, has his movie is coming out. His future debut is coming out later this year. Eric Cohn, I think, over IndiWire pointed this out.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Harmony Corinne produced it. And, like, it was just like, a beautiful, you got like a young filmmaker in to do this with you and to work on something like actually original. And like, this was like, I was just so inspired by all of this. The edits, the movement were really like incredible. I was really kind of how did they do that? Like kind of like the way that the camera shifted and stuff like that. Oh yeah. Just stand up to the other set design. And also hilariously, the big message is love is stronger than hate, which is the most Christian thing you could possibly say. Nope. And yet. And yet. And yet. And that's
Starting point is 01:03:31 also why we have these commercials because like people that were offended by that clap like goddamn seals and all these AI commercials singing toilets fucking what's his name Ben Affleck de-aged. The age. Well the de-aging stuff we can talk about. This is like I'm sorry everybody. Mommy and Daddy will someday die and that's going to be just the that's a part of life. They get old and then they die. That's it. Your Jurassic Park friends are old now. It's disgusting. It's so gross. Look at this. Look at that. It's why even? It's so. I'm sure he shot something for this, but why even get them?
Starting point is 01:04:05 Why even get them? Because they look non-existent. These are not those people. Is this just an AI amalgamation of everyone? What the fuck am I looking at? Here's the thing. Is that ginger even real? Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:04:15 It's like all of that, right? Like you're asking what it is. It's all of that. Like this right here, that's a computer Sam Neal. That's a computer Sam Neal face. Because when you watch it, it's barely lining up to the face.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Like, it looks awful. But then like in other parts, of the commercial, it is him with makeup on saying lines, like when he's in the car with Goldblum later. And it's like that it's, it is them with like makeup on. So it's it's both. Like they're utilizing a bunch of different avenues at once. But like let's get into the like the Duncan one. It's the same thing. Like look at that. It looks terrible. It's awful. Doing all that is to ease the transition into doing it fully with just the AI. That is doing in dabbling is just to introduce the idea and eventually it would just be all fucking soulless garbage.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I mean, look, it's, it's bad enough with the Super Bowl, like, celebrity commercials. Like, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, that doesn't have a celebrity in it. So now we're just celebrities, but they're exactly the way you remember them. Don't worry. They don't get old. It's okay. And it's just like, we need to be a little uncomfortable sometimes, uh, just as a, as a society.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Matt LeBlanc thing really did, uh, make me uncomfortable. Looking at it just. it eked me. Do you think Damon said no to this? Damon just said absolutely not. Oh, probably. I would hope. Honestly shocked that they didn't get, um, uh, was Matt Perry, Matthew Perry, uh, Oh, yes, bring him back.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yeah, D.HM, make him a soulless monster here to walk around. That's when I feel you're getting in trouble. Like, you got a, you got to have a heartbeat. Could my grave be any more desecrated? You know, that kind of. It could be real fast. who's beat the Reaper yet again. William Shatner looking pretty good.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Oh, right. Raisin brand commercial. And now I'm wondering, was him driving around eating cereal in the car? Did that get him the commercial or was that? Oh, shit, dude. For the commercial. I think it's a buildup for the commercial. I think it's that fucking sinister.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I think you're right. I'm playing 3D chess. Nog, gums. Tiped off the press. Come on see the old man eat cereal in the car. car. Right. Now it's in the news and now oh, the adverts. Oh, yes. That is. You're totally right. I hadn't even thought of that, Eric. You're totally right. That's what
Starting point is 01:06:42 happened. And everybody's starting to refer to him as the chat, I think, also brought us to this intersection. That's unfortunate. Yeah. Well, because the whole thing is like he's saying like, I, I shat every day. Oh, the whole thing. It's, it's a play on shitting. It's it's, it's Raisin brand finally being like, you eat us to shit. See, there's the singing toilets and Shatner's is screaming toilets. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:06 No, no more. Oh, totally. I mean, this is all Robocop stuff. You know what I mean? Like, just culture is swirling the drain. Yeah, is what we're talking to. And then there was the the Svedka robot commercial. That was, that was the one that was 100% AI. And it's like, so you got
Starting point is 01:07:24 fucking bad vodka, bad commercials for your bad vodka. Like, there's no reason to buy a fucking bottle of Svedka vodka ever in your life but good lord and then yeah to say nothing of all the commercials of like matthew broadrick being like oh no can i should i drive should i leave my house today like we're all turning into that twilight zone with the devil head this week oh yes they're like hey i can i leave my house tomorrow is it okay to leave to my house the next day we'll see check back later uh uh-uh well it's very depressing and this is a depressing episode of the show
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