We Hate Movies - S17: On-Screen Live: Reviews of Digger, Crystal Lake, You Can See Everything, Carrie, Primetime & More!
Episode Date: October 21, 2026On this edition of On-Screen Live, we're playing catch-up on some stuff we've seen over the last few weeks, including the most divisive narrative of the year, Digger; the non-fiction smash hit, You C...an See Everything; the R Pats-starring media thriller, Primetime, and two Halloween-time horror series that just dropped, Brad Caleb Kane's new Crystal Lake series on Peacock, and the Mike Flanagan-developed Carrie miniseries! We're also going over the weekend box office, and more!Be sure to visit the WHM Merch shop over on Dashery and check out all the latest show-related designs you can slap on t-shirts, hats, coffee mugs, stickers, whatever! Make your friends jealous by flaunting some WHM merch today!Original cover art by Felipe Sobreiro.
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What is going on one and all? Oh my goodness. Welcome to on screen live. My name is Andrew Jupin. And I'm sitting alongside three other fellows who've been watching a lot of stuff that we're going to talk about. But what is going on? Steve Sadek. Hello, beautiful. Eric Siska. You know, I recently dug a movie.
Oh, hell yeah, dude. Fuck yeah. Is that the popcorn bucket? Oh, yeah. And it's full, it's still like full of like grease and butter.
leave it like that forever to preserve the moment.
Oh, man.
How are the mice, man?
I love the mice.
And they're in the boot.
I love that.
Well, you know what?
Then, you know, they go down the gullet, too.
Chris Cabin, how you doing?
Any novelty popcorn containers at your house right now?
No, but I'm glad I did.
I was about to buy that for Eric when I went to, uh, see, you can see everything.
I can.
I always, so you've got both sides.
You have two boots.
That's not actually not a bad idea.
We want to say.
Yeah.
I was thinking.
Rockwell, two legs in that movie.
Wouldn't you know it? I did Eric, I saw your thing
and I was like, that's awesome, dude. And you were like,
I bought it on eBay and then I turned around and did the exact same thing.
Yeah, so it's not actually my popcorn butter. It's like someone else.
Oh, good. Even better. That's awesome. Okay. I hope he licked
his fingers before he ate. That's good.
It's like the, you know, like when you step on a movie theater floor sometimes and it's like,
did you buy a used one? Wait. No, no. This is all. Oh, okay.
This is a bit.
It's tacky and it's tacky, by the way.
Oh, shit, let's do this.
Ooh, fuck.
Oh, wow.
In fact.
Oh, I got into the void.
The dune worm.
The dune worm.
I'll do that one more time.
One more time.
Look, it's the beginning of uncut jams.
Oh, shit.
Nice.
Right.
What is going on to the chat?
Damon LeCornu 5040.
T.J. Games.
Obelamov 81.
Chasey Finn fan.
I'm so Rachel.
Who else we got here?
Designia.
Hello, hello.
Timothy Batson, 8183.
Jills, 7997.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome in.
This is the first official, regular, regular OSL of the season.
So we're welcoming everybody back in here.
We're talking about movies, talking about the business of movies.
We got a lot of stuff.
We got some things we're going to review.
We got a trailer segment for a movie that I think looks like pretty kick-ass.
But we shall see.
but first up, take a look around the box office,
some interesting things happening at the movies, friends.
This is highest gross.
Now, I was pretty surprised by this,
because didn't anybody else know that in it number five,
there was a pride and prejudice,
or sense and sensibility rather, coming out?
Yes.
Yeah, I've seen the trailer a bunch.
Yeah, that's, I've seen the trailer a bunch.
Oh, wow, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, interesting.
I had no idea was coming out,
but, you know, we've done Jane Austen before,
but that's never stopped Hollywood.
No.
How about senseless and sensibility?
And it's a takeoff of that movie with what's his name?
Marlon Wains.
Yes.
Former episode.
David Spade.
Yeah.
Ooh,
that was a long ago episode.
Very early episode.
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh,
yeah,
we covered that.
You might not have been on the episode, but it was.
I do remember watching it with you guys back in days of yours.
Yes, yes.
But yeah, so, you know, this was decent seven three, 19 million around the globe.
You know, this was okay for focus.
Not a big deal.
I was cut a.
surprised how many, like, I feel like
the Fielder movie kind of came out of nowhere
and like a couple of tent pole schedules
were like, oh, this is happening. You know what I mean?
I feel like you might not have put sense
and sensibility out this weekend
had you had known. Not that the crossover
is huge, but does that make sense?
But I would say though, like
they're doing, they did this initially
because Street Fighter came out.
And this was your counter programming the street.
Exactly. But then everyone, then the
Fielder movie kind of was another counter programming.
But I mean, you're never going to guess that
documentary is going to do with this. It's absolutely impossible. And I mean, just like,
Telluride was all of a sudden like, oh, this is happening now. Okay. And then it's like,
okay, here it is. But also I think this was too, because Netflix is putting out their Pride and Prejudice
series is about to come out. I think that was a little bit also in there. Oh, that's interesting.
Well, if you read anything about Netflix these days, not looking so high. No.
It's a conversation for another day. But in it number four, I wanted to get my buns to the theater to see this.
I will see it at some point because my God,
love a good weird gimmicky horror movie, but whale fall at number four, not too shit, well,
okay, ish, but there was a big spend on advertising.
And this movie actually cost a lot of money, I think, $60 million to make this fucking whale fall.
And it's based on a true story, right?
This takes place during the Bible, I think.
Yeah, this is Jonah.
The kid from Resident Evil plays Jonah in this movie.
See, what Eric's doing is making a joke about something I actually said at dinner the other day,
and I literally was confused if it was.
I didn't know too much about it.
I was like, it came up.
We had dinner with our good friend, Philippe Sabrero,
and our new friend Allison, who does our videos.
And I was just asking the group, like, is that, is it?
Is that a true story?
And everybody laughed at just, uh,
I mean,
I laughed because I thought you were just telling a classic Steve Sadec joke.
I didn't know it was a legitimate question.
Unless Noah drinks twisted teas.
This is not him.
Is this kid pounded twisted teas?
I saw him.
Is that why he gets eaten by a whale?
One of the shots I saw is in,
like a gas mart.
So, and that's, I always, I feel like I see twisted T banners at every gas mart I've ever been to.
Because you, because you do.
Yeah.
Is there a gas station in the whale?
That's pretty, fill her up, dude.
I mean, whales pretty big.
You could probably fit a gas station in.
Probably.
I will be curious to see what this goes on to do when there's maybe less, more important
things, fewer more important things of the box office to get to, or what it does on,
like, VOD, because this actually has a 71% on rotten tomatoes.
Okay.
So decent enough, like critical reaction.
I didn't see what the audience scores were or anything.
Austin Abrams, man, the guy is charming as hell.
Kids on fire.
I would love to watch any movie.
If he was in sense and sensibility, I would have watched that.
Oh, absolutely.
I'll watch that little twink do anything, dude.
He is very entertaining.
Watch him on fire for sure.
Just set him on fire.
Okay.
You know, adapt the cover to the Pink Floyd album, you know.
Wish you were here.
Is what you're talking about that?
That would be nice.
There'll be a narrative movie about that album cover.
We'll do album.
covers after like you know one day when we run out a comic book characters now it's like the mccu music
cinematic universe or like we run out of fucking musician biopics and it's like well now let's say you
know it's a whole movie about david bowie but just making the aladdin sane cover let's do that for
two hours okay so we need that uh baby dick on the nirvana cover and uh you're gonna be the i want
that baby's dick written by erin sorgon hold on a second now if you if chat if we are
gone now, it's because YouTube has taken
us off. The legal
fight about the baby dick. That changed
a nation.
We got to stop saying those
BD, we got to stop saying the BD, okay?
Hey, speaking to BD, no.
In it number three, something
that looked prime
for rental the entire time, and I will rent it,
I will pay theater price to
rent it. Because in a less
crowded time, I would have
been at the theater seeing other mommy. I
It's getting stupid at the theater.
Let's look at the poster really quickly, though.
I'll tell you guys this.
This is a movie that it's a real like, please come see this.
Like we've got Blumhouse, an executive producer of obsession.
Remember that movie you loved?
And James Juan, producer of back.
You remember that movie you loved?
I know we do this all the time, but for whatever reason, this poster, the amount of text here,
it made me, it just smells like so desperate, doesn't it?
From the guys who brought you, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
But look at, look at other mommy there.
I do not want to disappoint mom.
No.
I should have gone.
I'm definitely going to rent this.
It's a very like stupid Friday night.
Oh yeah.
Spooky movie bullshit.
This is on like the haunted wool side of the Blumhouse world.
You know what I mean?
Like it freaky looking trailer,
but not exactly something that I'm like rip roaring to get out in the theater for.
Especially because like the way the movie sort of position and I could be wrong and I hope I hope that I am.
Just because it's like other mommy and it's this kid like dealing with the other
Tommy thing. Like, if we're watching the movie
from this little like stinker
kids perspective the whole time, I'll
be glad I'm on my couch for it. What is
he complaining about? You got two Christmases.
Well, that's true. Two birthdays.
Well, and like all secret movies,
the other Duplas is in it.
Yes, I was surprised.
Oh, Jay Duplas is the father in this movie?
I was shocked we were allowing that guy
in movies not directed by mumblecore
people. I had to be like, all right,
did Joe? Swanberg.
Thank you. That's my show.
He did come back. He just put out into a movie.
So actually, there you go. There you go.
But the bummer for
other mommy here,
70% fall
from week one. So
yeah, not looking so
hot for other mommy.
$19 million budget though. So like overall, it's
completely fine. Yeah.
So moving right along.
Number two, something we'll be talking about a little bit.
Not spoiling it for you at all,
but later in the program, we will be discussing
you can see everything.
And I mean, tell me the last time
a documentary was number two at the box office.
It's Michael Moore, right?
It's got to be.
Fahrenheit 9-11, yeah.
It did better than this,
but this is like number two in history, perhaps.
Jesus.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we're looking at $15 million,
which doesn't seem a ton,
but when you look at the fact that this was on
only 855 screens around the country.
So this morning, A24 is like,
fuck, why didn't we put this on more screens?
That's their they're kicking themselves.
But here's the other thing.
It's the biggest opening for a movie on under a thousand screens since Borat,
which did 26 million across 170 screens.
So it just be about that,
but fucking wild that that record hasn't been broken since whatever that was, 2006.
I haven't been surprised by like turnout because I,
I went to see the devils on Saturday.
And I went in to get my tickets.
I went on Fandango and I was getting,
picking out.
my seats and I was surprised there's a pretty big turnout for the the two night screens they were
doing for it that night. But then I looked at this and I was like, it's almost all gone.
I was like, what? How is this possible? I was having flashbacks to trying to get tickets to the
Odyssey. Like I saw it yesterday. I was able to get some seats. I was in like the second row and it was
sold out all across the city yesterday. I mean, it was wild. That's insane. I'm a big Wednesday
morning. What movie we watch it this weekend?
guys and get the tickets.
Yeah, I was okay.
But even that was a lot.
A lot was sold out.
Even Wednesday morning with a cup of coffee,
people were like,
really,
really excited for this.
And rightfully so,
because it's a great movie.
I'm just loving that like,
and it's not just for this,
but I've been having like real trouble
getting some fucking tickets to stuff.
And I love that.
I love that people are turning out to the movies like that.
I mean,
it's just bonkers.
And for a three hour movie.
Three hours.
A three hour movie not directed by Christopher Norris.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's a fielder's obviously been having a moment since those rehearsal
movies shows came out. And then the Theranos thing is a big deal. The dropout was big. So like it's
not IP, but you know what I mean? It's a known thing. It has like for lack of a better word,
fan base. You know what I mean? It's kind of a perfect storm. And that trailer was like perfectly like
cut to make people be like what is. You know what I mean? It's it's it was a bit of a gabbo. Gabbo,
Gabbo, Gabbo. Like I got to go see what Gabbo is about. Yes. The response.
at a tell you ride and from everybody
at Newer Film Festival as well. I haven't
seen so many people
when it comes to an American movie
being like, I don't know how to talk
about this yet. Like
I genuinely like I understand after seeing
it. I'm like I understand that now. I get what you mean.
So we'll talk about that more later.
But the final thing here, number one at the box office
something that Steve
texted everybody yesterday was like,
hey, is it worth me checking this out?
And I sort of said no, because we'll
likely want to keep this for January. Yes,
the street fighter movie.
Oh, man. This is crazy.
I was going to go see this, but then I
heard that this guy, Andrew Schultz, this
Trump campaign manager is like one of the
lead characters. Yeah, he's up there.
It's just crazy. Also, it's just crazy
to save Paul Manafort for the sequel.
Man, Paul Manafort, I just turned
to stone. I haven't thought about that guy.
Unbelievable, dude. Paul Mataport.
Azakuma.
we can get Steve Bannon in there too for the sequel right
I mean is he Honda in it I mean he would love
Honda's in it he's absolutely no that's unfortunate
that's the only the girth
The thing that I read though from a lot of folks that I was
You know checking out their reviews on letterbox
You know buddies of ours and everything
A lot of people saying the the the wrong turn for this movie
And not everybody agrees with this but the a wrong turn for this movie
Is that they tried to make like a live action anime and I see
More often than not, that's generally a failure when you try to do that.
They weave in anime scenes into the movie itself.
Oh, there's actual anime?
There's actual anime.
Because there's something.
Dude, they are hiding that from you in those previews.
Holy shit.
I was really surprised to hear about this because it sounds like there's a lot of action scenes that they couldn't do or they didn't want to do.
Oh, and they were just caught in the cartoons instead.
That's what it sounds like what they're doing.
Oh, that's awesome.
Why don't you just go home and play the fucking video game then?
Seriously.
Yeah.
Seriously. Oh my God.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's rough.
But so this is, yeah, 51 million around the world, 31 million here.
And this is only paramount hired gun for distribution only.
So like legendary and Capcom are the ones who actually have money to lose in this.
And this is, it's not a tank by any means, but it is a real like middle of the road.
Yes.
You know, sort of neutral result here.
So, you know, I have a strong, you know, there's a lot of contenders, folks,
for stuff that we'll be talking about in January.
But that's kind of top of my list after hearing the reactions about it.
Oh, my God.
Hey, speaking of reactions, though, we got some cool stuff coming up.
We'll take a little break here to plug ourselves.
No show dates or anything like that.
But the spooky season is upon us, folks.
And of course, that means what a perfect time for another Scardy Cats episode.
So the 28th of this month, right before All Hallows Eve, the long legs edition of
Scarity Cats is coming out.
We have just finished the edit on it.
It's a great episode.
It's very funny.
The fucking long leg singing voice, you better believe, is all over the place.
Yes, quite a lot.
But it's a good time.
And then, let's see.
Oh, and then also available in the store, the Patreon store, I should say.
The Spooky Season is upon us.
The Scream 4 digital show from a few years back is.
out now, also at patreon.com
slash we hate movies. And that was
a lot of fun. That was us in 2024
just going through Scream 4. We recorded a new
intro for it, discussing some
current events related to the movie and everything like that.
So that is available now.
Pairs well with our Scream episode that's
out now on Patreon as well. So it's a nice
little screamy kind of horror month there
for you, folks. And a Zinfandel, too,
if you want to get that. Oh, that's a good call.
That's also a Zinfandel on top
of it. It's also good pairing.
well done.
So yeah, that's just some stuff we have coming up that we want you to pay attention to.
But yes, something we're paying attention to is the previews, because while there's a bunch of stuff at the box office right now, more stuff is just coming down this movie poop shoot.
So let's get into it.
We're keeping track of one in a segment we like to call trailer segment.
All right.
This is one that I caught a couple trips back to the movies.
I think it was actually in front of Digger.
And then it was because I feel like they were like, what the hell do we put in front of this?
movie besides other 824 titles.
It was actually in front of the Fielder movie
yesterday, which I thought was kind of funny.
But yes, Exorcist Martyrs,
written and directed by Mr. Mike Flanagan,
who will be talking about briefly later,
but this is out next March.
I'm kind of excited for this.
What did you guys think of the trailer?
I really liked it.
Right?
Yeah.
I'm generally a Flanagan fan.
I was actually one of the big idiots that was surprised
that he wasn't directing Clayface,
because I thought for a really long time he was.
I thought he was too, frankly.
I still thought he was.
No,
yes.
No,
they're doing a total bait
and switch with that
where it's like
from Mike Flanagan
but he only wrote it.
Yeah.
This actually,
this has the,
where is it,
the decency to be like,
uh,
uh,
whereas I have a title.
Oh,
here it is.
Yeah.
Just like from writer director.
Like,
please get out in front.
Tell me that's the deal.
But I think this is a really moody looking,
uh,
potential adaptation to the same source material as Exorcist 3 Legion.
Uh,
Garjo here as this detective character, partnered alongside Sasha Cal.
It looks great, you know, and I like the style of it, and it looks like a good little plot there.
But, man, getting kind of tired of Scarjo.
Maybe.
Is that right?
Yes, of course.
Come on.
Where are you watching Scarjo in?
Jurassic World.
That was tough.
Two years ago.
Yep.
Yes.
Just spend a little time with Colin.
That's all I asked for.
Well, dude, would you want to?
to do that. Come on now.
Well, that was the bummer. This movie takes place
in New York City. She must have been like, damn it,
I got to spend the whole summer at home.
All right, but maybe can, like,
can she do her investigating in
the Bronx and not Staten Island?
God. I mean,
there is just some wild-ass imagery
in this movie that I'm putting on screen now
here. And by the way, our
new to the realm of horror, I think, let's keep
Chihuetel in these fucking movies, man.
Yeah, he's good. And I
put two Chuitel here because this is
him doing a mass, but then this is him,
there's like a scar on his forehead.
He might be getting into some craziness here.
So we got that going on. And then
I am really curious what is going on with
Leguizamo in this movie.
Look how fucking terrifying he looks.
Well, I mean, I can see how it's going to end for him.
It looks like. It's going to have...
On the way out.
I got heavy duty seven vibes from all of this.
And I'm very happy to see Flanagan in that mode.
I like having a serial killer to me,
much more interesting than just a girl with a possession.
You got a lot more to work with there.
I think he can really do something with it.
It's got to be better than Exorcist Believers.
It has to be.
Oh my God.
It has to be.
It would almost have to be.
Violence looks pretty good.
I like to see that altar boy hung upside down like he was caught trespassing at the
Dreadfort.
For a joke for 10 years.
Yeah, no, I'm really excited for it and you've got some great stuff in here.
Again, we stopped playing the trailers and watching them on this thing because YouTube sets the stream to kill mode.
But I love the speech that Chuitel is giving and you get the end of it.
You know, like, my name is Legion.
So that makes my ears prick up.
And a blink and you miss it.
I think the exorcist is the titular exorcist in this movie, Larry Fishburn.
Oh, yeah.
There's the one shot of Larry Fishburn.
He's got the Bible.
He's all decked out.
For sure.
Very serious.
Dude, Larry Fishburn's saying,
the power of Christ compels you potentially or some variation on that.
Very excited.
I mean, it's very exciting, but it's also no gigantic Russell Crow and a little scooter.
I know.
And you know, two things can be true, man.
I can be excited for this and I can want another pope's exorcises.
Well, maybe at the end we'll just build an exorcism of verse.
You know what I mean?
I said, I heard you had trouble in the Bronx.
Here I am or whatever, you know, that kind of thing.
I would watch that.
A cold open where he has a heart attack
while eating a meatball and dies.
That's, I'm very much of that.
Oh, so Russell Crow's Exorcist is helping
Larry Fishburn from beyond the grave is what we're saying.
Okay.
Maybe I'd watch that.
No, I'm super excited for this.
And we'll talk about it briefly a little later.
But just watching Carrie and like just feeling like that
Flanagan vibe again.
I'm like, oh yeah.
Okay.
Like I'm ready for this.
I was surprised that this exorcist, at least the trailer, and I mean, I haven't actually gone through the IMDB.
Only one Flanagan staple.
You see a blink and you miss it.
I believe it's Rahul Kahil.
Yeah, is in it for like.
Colji, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he did it for one second.
I was like, where are any Battlestar Galactica actors?
What are they doing?
Why are they left out of this one?
You can hire like the Brits from your crew so Rahul can come over and be in the movie.
You're not getting any of them Canadians.
We're not doing that.
You keep all those Canadian television actors.
up there in Canada.
Yeah, because Timoa Pena cat,
I believe his name is. He's also in
Carrie as the father. I was
waiting for D to show up in this
thing. Maybe you get
Silon number 12 would be fun.
It's a shame that
What's His Face is dead now.
The guy from Quantum Leap, Eric,
the Scott Beacula?
No, I mean Dean Stockwell.
Dean Stockwell, the great time.
He was amazing. Shocked to find
Guy as in Slow Horses.
Oh, really? That's pretty fun.
That's where he is.
That's the, I love that guy.
He's in, I think season two or three, he's, he's, he's, he's featured pretty highly.
Does he play the horse?
He's not a horse.
Sad to say, he is not any of the horses.
I've not seen slow horses.
I don't think there's any horses in it, though.
That might be the thing.
What the fuck, dude?
But they're called slow horses, and he is not one of those.
Oh, the spy agency is called slowness?
Yeah, he's not even a metaphorical slow horse.
No.
That's unfortunate.
So, yeah, March.
12th, 2027 is one that comes out.
We will see, but I'm excited for it.
Okay, we got a lot of stuff to talk about that we have
put in front of our peepers.
Some of these will be shorter than others
for various reasons. One of them being,
we still don't want to spoil things for people.
So we'll get this one
right out of the way. The new
Inioritu Digger.
And normally these are off-screen,
but I'm putting this on-screen, but almost off-screen
is what I'm calling this one, because
the showtimes are vanishing.
And I have to say, I've
I don't care whether or not
folks like this. Like it's obviously
the most divisive narrative film of the year.
But what I don't
appreciate from some folks that I've seen
crying about
the lack of like original stuff
coming out of Hollywood,
but then also celebrating the
box office failure of this movie.
You can't do that.
You can't celebrate an original thing just because you didn't
like I mean, that's, I think that's
it's fucking shitty. Like you
can't say you support, you know.
You're right.
And the lessons here is, you know what?
How about 19 more Spider-Man movies?
How about that?
Yeah.
And, I mean, again, it's completely fine if you didn't like it.
I know two guys in this four-guy conversation didn't like it.
That's totally cool.
I think it's one of the best of the year.
But go ahead.
Chris and Steve hate it.
I think it's one of the best of the year.
I think, I mean, you know, I'm not going to spoil it because, I mean, there's a turn in it that's early on.
I suggest really go see it.
Decide for yourself.
I agree with that.
ad campaign. But it's like not about just the climate crisis. It's also about how in the end of things,
and end of it, you know, how art is just controlled by the very people that are destroying the world.
Art is only made by the rich essentially. And it's fitting to be the last real Warner Brothers movie
as it's gobbled up. And that's like an eerie thing for sure. Steve, you, I noticed,
rated it a little higher than Chris. So how are you feeling about it? I think that like it's a, it's a really good looking
movie, I think, I'm trying to be positive.
Cruz is good in spurts.
I think, and I appreciate, as the kids say, I appreciate the swing.
I do, I like what Eric's sentiment is.
I have issues with the sort of meta-narrative or contextual.
The certain things that the movie does sort of insulate itself from being able to be
criticized at all.
It's like, well, actually, because in the middle of the movie, Tom Cruise does this
really impassioned speech about.
how fucking complacent we all are
and you want to, you know, you want to do your big,
you want to, you want to complain about climate control,
but you're getting stuff of Amazon and like,
right on, good for you.
But then later on, it just sort of is like,
but that's not even, you know what I mean?
There's enough that undercuts it where I'm like,
so what are we even saying?
And I also think that like,
to the point of like art can't really criticize anything
and art can't really matter,
then why are you spending $180 million dollars
trying to make me believe in,
care about anything in that world.
That's that's kind of where I kind of land on it without getting really deep in the stuff of it.
I don't want to give anything away because maybe there's a chance to still save us.
That's how I mean, that's how I look at it, right?
Because like not to give too much away, but this is, let's say, in the not too distant future.
Right.
And I feel like it is, I read it at least as like a rallying cry.
Like this is where it's, I mean, this is a hardcore version of where it's leaning.
and it's only going to get worse if we don't do something.
I mean, that I think is, it's probably what is causing a lot of the annoyance about this movie
or, you know, at least some of it is like, yeah, we're having this critique about, like, art
and patronage and things like that.
And then also, like, there's the climate thing.
But I think, like, there are ways that you can tie those both together because the rich are
kind of doing both of those things.
So there is that to do.
But Chris Cabin, go ahead.
I think that's what a lot of people who are watching it are doing the work,
in your retitue. I don't think that's in the movie. I think the movie is pretty where it ends up at least and I'm trying not to say anything here. But the last like images you see of it suggest to me it's already over. It's all dry done. Everything that you are worried about is already done. And that to me coupled with a lot of the stuff that's in the God, how do you say this? So the non-political scenes and the political scenes. Sure. This is part of the
non-political scenes,
but there is a speech
towards the end of this movie,
a big speech by a descendant
of Digger, let's say.
And I think that kind of puts
the stamp on it about
like, this is all,
you know, all this is just like to make
us feel better about where
this world has ended up.
And like, if you believe stuff like
that, why do you care what Marvel
does? Why do you care about
any of this shit? And like,
he I don't think he answers that.
I think it's just something that he's like,
I'm just angry about all this
and I just want to throw it up there.
And that's fine.
But I don't find it very compelling.
I feel like when the non-political scenes start,
I was reminded a lot of Birdman.
And I felt like a lot of it just felt like a Xerox
of Burnman.
I feel like a lot of people just have a grudge
against Inuritu and they're taking that.
When you say something,
we're perceiving is not in the movie.
I think some of the stuff you're perceiving is not in the movie
because it's a birdman hate from 10 years ago.
It's not Birdman hate for it.
I think there's an argument to be made that they're very similar
dialogues. They're talking about very similar things.
It's true. And they use one contrivance that I don't think he understands
or doesn't portray very well in either.
And because it's Lubeski as well, a lot of the shots look like Birdman.
And that's not me going like, if Inner Reto made a movie I'd like and he has made
movies I like, I would go to
a bath for them. But for
the last couple, like, to me
there's a very similar thing to me.
He is an author. Like, he does very
similar things. And the things he's
done has always just kind of been
you know, this from me, kind of like
mediocre, whatever. Some of it's
interesting. A lot of it isn't.
And it just, as a
cumulative force, doesn't it hit me
the way that it hits a lot of other people.
I think in five or ten years,
I'm going to welcome you back to the Digger
family.
This is something I will, I do have to talk about.
What is it with everybody calling their Babe Ruth shot about this movie being re-evaluated?
Because why?
It will be.
Well, one, because it's a divisive movie.
Defensive, yes, but like movies that are re-evaluate are usually movies that were buried.
Everybody disliked them.
Like Southland Tales, there were so few people who actually came out and were like, we, I really like this.
I feel like the Digger audience, I'm not sure if it's 50-50, but it's close enough to that to me.
There's a difference there, Chris, because, you know, critically this movie was panned, right?
Like Digger was also panned.
But back when Southland Tales came out, you didn't have that instant social media.
The letterbox wasn't around, right?
So I feel like there was less noise about movies in general.
That's a possibility. That's sure.
I think just for me who put it literally in my letterbox review, I'll see some of you in five
to 10 years. One, I write
jockey letterboxed reviews, so that's
part of it, but also that was me being
like, I hope people come around
to it. I hope, you know, maybe someone rewatches it
someday and maybe sees it a little differently.
But I think whatever happens
with this movie, whether
it falls into obscurity or whether it finds
itself re-evaluated, and I also think, like,
things that more
people than the positive
Southland Tales audience can see
a thing and you can still then say
it'll be re-evaluated later.
or re-evaluated and you're like,
it actually, I was wrong and it sucked.
I can't remember the last time it's happened where like the people themselves did it though.
Like this was, I mean, I guess it's, was it Quaron?
Who came out and did the thing?
Like, here's a list of the movies that have like failed.
His buddies came in and I like his buddies quite a bit.
I like tutorial as well.
I didn't mean like really going to bat, which makes sense.
I mean, either A, and I believe they A like the movie and B, they're trying to pump up
something. Everyone was shitting on any
Ritu, not only like,
almost getting personal with it, even though
that's weird. I don't like, I don't like his stuff.
The same exact thing happened with the revenant.
And the only reason it didn't happen with Bardo is because
that movie was on Netflix and nobody saw it.
So I feel like this dude, there is something,
I don't know what it is, but you're right.
There is something about when this dude puts out
stuff that people see, they fucking come for this dude's children.
And I don't, I really don't understand it.
I don't understand it.
I think this, I mean, back to the movie itself,
I also think a big original sin of it for me is it's really unfunny.
I didn't, I mean, like, there's some cast stuff in the beginning that's very funny.
And then a lot, I think Sandra Wheeler is terrible in this movie.
I love Sandra Cooner.
Wow.
But I think she is absolutely awful, woefully miscast.
Like, you think, like, she's not believable in that role?
Like, she's bad at acting in the movie here?
Yes.
That's kind of where I'm, or just not right for.
a comedy where she's playing a other lady.
Can we agree we like the voice?
Can we agree we like the Texan
voice? Cruz's performance
I think is, I mean, I
want to see that dude do more
comedy. I think he's a very funny person
because he's able to channel
that insane action movie
intensity into comedy,
which is a really weird
skill, but I think he pulls it off.
I thought it was really funny
and I didn't think that she was terrible.
And I think that that's what's really
cool about this movie is like
there are just I mean that's like me
me and Steve on this movie is like the fucking
Groucho Marx mirror thing like we're just on opposite
sides of it but like that's okay because
when is the last time a movie sort of
juzed up people in this way
and so I you know
I love all the attention it's getting good or bad
you know yes it's just good
good art provokes a reaction
which I will say I'll take
a small umbrage I think
I mean look who cares about people I'm not
I'm trying to find the right way to frame
this. It's not good that people celebrate the demise of a movie, but I don't know, like,
being on the other side of something getting worked up, I can sort of see it. It gets, it certainly goes
too far. You know what I mean? Like, I will say that. But I mean, I think that like, it is a movie
that is, it is sort of like puckish in the way that it is stumbling its nose at people. And I think
that is something where you can either be like, well, fuck you too. Or you can be like, well,
right on. And I think that is sort of what this movie is doing. It's a light of rot in that.
you're totally right. People feel insulted by the movie. I really am puzzled by that reaction.
I mean, I wasn't to you, but like I get it if you're somebody who's like, this is my whole
identity in my hand, you know, where I fucking love that I can get a shitty DVD in two days. Like,
I could see people being like personally hurt. But that's the thing is it bugs me so much when we
have that big speech and then we say, A, nothing matters. And then B, we again, like 180.
million, if you really care about that,
don't let $180 million on fire
and do something that is
more worthwhile than whatever this movie's trying to say.
But I think what's very important though is
like we're saying that this movie
is like saying disparate things, but I think
it's important that like one character
is saying one thing and another character
is saying the other thing. And so
I think it's not the movie saying two
different things. The movie is sort of like
which side are you on? Like what
how do you feel about this issue?
You know, I would side with digger.
in this instance, right?
But that's just me.
You know, so I think that also might
play into what you're talking about a little bit, Steve.
Fair, yeah, sure.
But, you know, we actually went
longer on this that I thought we were going to.
Of course, it's going to be an hour.
It was no matter what.
But I was surprised that, like,
we were able to do this without fucking talking about the turn of the movie.
So good, good for us for doing that.
We'll keep moving right along here.
This one is a Chris and Steve thing,
but it is kind of an 8-24 party on this episode.
So, guys, you thought,
on prime time. A24 party bitches.
I really like this one. I think it pairs well with the very good documentary last
Predators. Predators. Right. I still got to see that. I think both are worth watching kind of in
conversation with each other, even though I don't think that they're like neither one knew about. I mean,
I think that prime time probably knew about predators, but predators didn't know about primetime.
Right. But I think that it's
really interesting story. I think
it's hyper
fictionalized and hyper
truncated. If you look at certain things that happen in Chris
Hanson's life that are portrayed,
you're like, oh, that happens years later than what
this moment is. Right. So you
got to give it up for that. But I think
it's just, it looks great. The acting
is fantastic. Merritt Weaver is
fucking amazing. Oh, I love her.
That's good. Incredible. And so is Skylar
Gazando. And of course,
Barry and Lee Pattinson is fucking funny.
No,
Chris, I'll let you speak.
Sorry.
Oh, no, no.
I think it's a really fantastic movie.
And I do,
I agree.
I think it's exactly the other side of predators,
which, rightfully so,
it doesn't try to be sensationalized.
It's very much a dry documentary
trying to get its point across.
And I think it does that very well.
This movie is a much more eclectic version of that.
And I think it works on its own terms as well.
Like,
the different visuals,
the different speed,
different fucking kinds of like
lenses they get you going with.
It's so nuts the way that they
switch styles so much in this movie
without it being
like preordained. Like so many of
these movies I watch them and the
switch is like a big deal in this.
This it's more in mood.
You're trying to get a
scene to get a certain
feeling and he does it in this
very, Oppenheim, I want to say Lance
Oppenheim who has another big movie this weekend.
Yeah.
I mean, the acting is phenomenal.
And I think they,
we didn't talk, Phoebe Bridgers,
I think is really good in her role.
Oh, she's acting in the movie?
She's in the movie, yes.
Her and, uh, what do you go?
Scarlett was on.
They play like a pair of like the people who play bait for the pedophiles.
Oh, okay.
And it's,
it's good casting.
It's a very small and like very weird.
Another Eric joined the chat.
Oh, no.
The hell?
Uh, and also I want to be clear,
Eric, if you're on the fence about this.
Frozen, I think.
that's what's going on.
Or, Andrew, if you're on the fence about this.
Yeah.
And it's not spoiling too much.
Jonathan Lipnicki Dickie, F.YI.
Whoa.
Jonathan Lip Dickie?
Jonathan Lip Dickie.
The human dick weighs four pounds, brother.
Wow.
Let me let you know that.
At the end, it sort of goes, it ends really well, but I think it goes a little
bit above its skis, which makes it a little like a four star, not like a four and a half
for me, but it's, I think it's a really, really strong American movie this year.
And I wouldn't be surprised if it's very celebrated at the end.
I would love to.
to see Patenton get some attention for it. I think
for sure. Really phenomenal.
And like as you said, it goes
big and it's exactly why I think
it's a perfect pair with predators
is because it takes that chance
that the like actual
when you're dealing with the actual meat
of what's talking about, you should not be
sensational at all.
So I like that this, it's about
TV. It's about sensation.
And I think that's
what he gets right. And Patinson
it is, I like the,
it's not like he's not as much a villain as as in Odyssey or something like that.
But the amount of villainy he allows into that portrayal to me is so measured and so beautifully
looked at as a way to get at what they're talking about.
Like it blew me away. It really did.
Now, like we said, this is directed by Lance Oppenheim.
This is, I was looking at his IMDB.
I'm fairly certain. This was his first narrative.
Generally, when that happens with a documentarian, you get things.
like Canadian bacon.
Sure.
You get things like
Blair Witch 2, Book of Shadows.
So I think it's
kind of fascinating that here's
this fella coming in
and it works. Does it feel
I mean, does it feel like it's made by a documentarian?
It cleared that low bar, that's for sure.
Yeah.
I think, but I, no, there's definitely
hints of it. Like, there's a lot of like
B-roll footage of just like, you know,
the houses they film in, you know,
I mean, you just sort of have these overhead angles,
like the buzzy nature of like a film set kind of stuff.
Like there's a lot of verity to it, I think.
Yes, that's interesting.
Which is neat.
I think it plays well with what the subject matter and how they portray it is.
Nice.
Speaking of Mr. Oppenheim, yes, him and Nathan Fielder do indeed have a three-hour documentary out.
Called, you can see everything.
And yeah, I saw this yesterday.
And it was just a really rock and experience.
a sold out screening of a documentary
in a large AMC auditorium
never thought I'd see that day.
This was so engrossing.
I know a lot of people have been saying it,
but I could have watched another three hours.
Like, top it on, you know.
Absolutely.
And congrats to Oppenheim and Fielder and everybody
for making a fucking movie.
This so could have been three parts on HBO.
This so could have been four parts on Netflix.
Yes.
Five parts on whatever.
Because again, three hours,
they probably have 10 hours with the footage
and could have cut in
fun little episodes
and I'm sure
with Fielder's
you know TV background
that was definitely something
people were probably
edging him to do
but I think it's
a really strong movie
and the fact that it is a movie matters
and it meant you know what I mean
like by the end of it
and I mean the fielder you know
especially I just got into
Nathan for you
we're just kind of slowly going through it
it's a fun you know
lucky you
if it touch dated you know
2013 comedy but very funny
and the rehearsal really blew me away
And I think that both of those seasons end so strongly and have these sort of like stomach, not stomach, stomach flipping like, oh, we're doing this now kind of thing.
Right.
In both of those rehearsal seasons.
And it's not forced, but when it happens in this and you can see everything, you're like, oh, we're going here.
We're doing all of these things with the things we were setting up in the first half.
And you're like, your mind is blown, I think, a little bit in a way that it hasn't been for me in a movie for quite a while.
I mean, there's no way to predict this.
And I really, if you haven't seen it, avoid everything, including this.
Everything.
Just get away from it as quickly if possible.
It's the, because to what you're talking about, there are, I could tell in the movie when they would have cut it up.
I could, I could see it from it.
There's a three episode version of this easy out there.
This could have been telemarketers very quickly.
Yes.
And just as much as I think
Telemarkers would have been better as a movie.
I think this is just so much better as a movie
as a full experience of seeing it
because also of its subject matter
like truth and like
what is lying? What is sincerity?
All these things that are very important
to what the three characters.
I mean, there's a bunch of characters
but all the characters in this movie are talking about
is what can you tell?
What is a gimmick?
What is a ploy?
all these things. And it is to me, it's so good that they go back to the through line being that
New York Times article and that one line that they come back to at the end. It is so great that
they thought that through and got it all the way through that. I was stunned by it. It's really great.
And I do love there is this ambiguous nature to the entire thing. I love it. This isn't a spoiler,
really. I mean, it just doesn't have answers. No. And it doesn't pretend it does. It
is just a let's just see what happens like i respect the patience of nathan feel there's so much
watching these conversations unfold the dude just really has a certain gift for i i think it's because
he's a unassuming tiny little nerd that like people just people just talk to this guy and i think
that is one of his greatest superpowers and you can see it here you can just see i was i was like
thinking to myself like well now i would say or i
would jump in and say and this dude just like hangs back you know what i mean yeah and i think that's
really great yeah and i feel like if you were to if you were to watch this in three parts and i think
you've probably already you know mentioned this i think you said this another way steve but like
it it possesses some sort of uh energy watching it all in one thing that you just wouldn't get
if you're interrupted twice by credits if you're interrupted twice by like
skip the, you know, skip intro or, you know, all that shit, right?
And so then.
A slow horses commercial before you watch it.
Precisely.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I'm getting ready to settle in for part two and then Gary Oldman's farting on my TV.
Like, which he does fart in that first season.
He does.
Yes.
Very important to know.
A lot of that.
But then it got me thinking, right?
Because also another thing that Lance Oppenheim directed that we all really liked, but it was
broken up into a three part thing was that Renfair.
Yes.
Yeah.
For sure.
So then I start thinking like.
well shit I would watch a two hour and 57 minute cut of whatever like
absolutely I would like that option on some of these HBO things because it is so
obvious that that is sort of what they're doing by the way so I want to get into
something divisive Billy Evans her husband is not does not come off well in the
movie that's not a spoiler I think he comes off horribly yes he's a horrible person
dude's a real piece of shit garbage and I'm seeing weird like now the all the
worst people are now sticking up for him today and like
blah blah blah, blah. Like, oh, he did nothing wrong. He's
supporting his wife. All the weirdest shit
in the world. I will say one thing.
And I think the egg scene
is very, very important to the movie.
And the way that he grabs it out of her hand is
absolutely deplorable. And I would
be divorced if I even touch that.
However, I know where you're going with this.
Go ahead. She was not
beating those eggs correctly.
Someone needed to step in some way.
Certainly he did it the wrong way.
Someone needed to step in in some way and be like,
these eggs are not being beaten correctly.
correct, but I don't think anybody had
to step in. I think we...
If we were going to have subpar eggs,
so be it. Don't be it
for being a human. I would...
Yeah, that's very fair.
For being a human. I would love that.
I would absolutely love that.
I will tell you, though,
part of this movie,
and I think it speaks to a larger thing about
like, these billionaire
tech people that are
like running our world
are fucked up broken
losers. Okay? And
I'm watching her in this movie.
And part of me was like,
is this going to be some,
because, you know,
I think wild things when someone says to me,
like, you're never going to believe
what happens in this movie.
And everybody's talking about the reveals and whatever.
My imagination just goes crazy.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
Like, I'm watching the egg thing.
And then the who's on first thing.
And I'm like, oh, she's an alien.
Like Nathan Fielder is going to tell me that this woman is an actual alien from
outer space.
Yes.
Because this is not a functioning human being.
And I mean, like, literally, like, the, I think the, what do you call it there,
you learn so much about, again, your point about technical is totally right.
Like, when Billy is just watching these fucking YouTube videos about mitochondria or whatever,
at two times speed, because that's the most efficient way to do.
I'm like, you're not learning anything.
And you can tell that he's not learning anything.
But he could say that he's doing it and it's really fucking cool.
It doesn't it look awesome.
Like, I look so fucking cool.
I'm learning about all this science shit at a thousand times of speed.
Oh, wait.
Back.
Oh, maybe.
So, folks, we should say, confirmation where Eric lives, there was a Verizon outage.
Here's Eric.
Eric, can you hear us?
Began.
Yeah.
Frozen again.
We'll see.
We'll keep going.
Eric, just shout out when you can hear us.
Yep.
When you can.
I guess not then.
I can hear you.
Can you hear me?
There's a lot of work now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My Verizon went down to my block and,
I'm shocked that it's back already.
Verizon went down on your what?
I wish.
Block.
My BD, dude.
Oh, dude.
I see.
I'm down on my BD.
Sorry,
everyone.
I really hate when that happens.
No,
that's okay.
You're the only one that didn't say BD
and the internet kicked you off anyway.
I know.
It's very strange.
It came for you.
But yes,
long story short,
go see you can see everything.
Absolutely.
It's well worth the hype.
It's just,
it talks about really large
things in a not ham-fisted way and it's really
it's one of the more interesting movies that I've seen in like five years
it is finally a bulwark against efficiency
it's a three-hour movie about someone everybody should hate
but it's a three-hour movie and it's great the way it is and it gets into
the right places that I think it should go without getting
protective I was really really happy with it
can I tell you guys I had the honor
the distinct privilege
of sitting in front of
the dumbest person
and the five birds
to go see this movie this weekend.
This woman had no fucking clue
what she was even doing there.
And I mean, first of all,
just join to the boyfriend
the whole fucking time.
She didn't know she was in a movie theater.
Honestly, dude, I don't know.
Like, she's sitting behind me
and like every, you know,
so a lot of the
funnier parts of the movie
is the classic fielder thing
of they cut to him
and he's just a weird nerd
and he's making a weird nerd face
and it's fucking hilarious every time, right?
Every time it was happening
and the audience is erupting in laughter
she's like, why are they laughing?
What is so funny?
Well, did she understand
how who's on first works either
or maybe not?
Here's this, the boyfriend.
The first baseman's name is who?
And I'm,
I'm like, oh, fuck, I think I maybe got an alien behind me.
She's dumb as a bucket of whale shit.
Oh, my God.
Whaleful.
Yeah, dude, it was a real fucking whale fart, real whale brain fart.
She was so just lost in this movie.
You say that my whole audience was not getting a lot of the funny parts.
Oh, really?
Whenever the pauses were happening or whenever, like, there was an actual, like, where
Billy does something, you're like, what the fuck?
Like, everybody was just, like, quiet.
And I was like gasping
out in the front row
being like,
why?
And without spoiling anything,
candlebox light shine down.
Greatest needle drop of the year.
Yeah.
Yep.
Easily.
That was a circle.
That was another thing though.
It was like she didn't understand
why everybody reacted
to the candle box song.
She was like,
what is the,
what is happening?
She's fucking got it.
I heard I got to go to the bathroom.
She fucking left for like 20 minutes.
And I thought part of me,
part of me was like,
oh awesome like she fucked off like she was like i'll see you at home and left and that was the most peaceful
best 20 minutes of me viewing the movie but honestly lady if you're out there if you were at the
fucking 215 screening at the amc magic johnson up in harlem you were too dumb to see that movie
20 minutes in the bathroom and she came back yeah that's a poo-poo caca i believe so i don't get this
movie and I have the shit. Excuse me.
So that was just some stuff we were catching in and around the theaters here, but we are getting
close to the end of the hour here. And we want to bring in a couple other things real
quick that we were catching on television because it's the Halloween season. We got some
Halloween horror TV. And speaking of Mr. Flanagan, we'll get through this one first because
I think we've watched less of this than we have the other. But yes, his carry is out.
Both series we're going to talk about, I should say, just dumped on the respective platforms.
just don't.
Is this actually Mike Flanagan or is this another fake Flanagan?
No, this is actually Mike Flanagan.
I don't think he direct.
It's probably eight episodes.
I imagine he doesn't direct everyone.
I haven't been keeping track.
We just, we got up through,
Chelsea and I are both watching it.
We got up through episode three.
The third episode is directed by Kate Siegel.
So I don't know who did the other two.
Got it.
Yeah, I mean.
But he's a Shepard.
It's a TV show that he's like the showrunner on.
Showrunner.
Yeah, he's definitely,
he's showrunner.
He developed it.
Yeah, I don't think he directed every single.
I know he didn't direct every single.
single episode. So far I'm into it. I want to get into it. My wife checked out, which is fair.
I don't have the one. What wasn't working for Jen? Is she like, is she a fan of the property in
general? She likes the property and I think she wasn't, I wasn't the whatever seems like a documentary
style of the first episode was sort of a little bit eyebrow raising and like eh. And then like whatever
the, and I'll just say it's the end of the episode, Gene Gray's school of whatever is going on
the episode at the end of the first episode
it'll be explained to me when I have no idea
she was like yeah I'm done I'm like that
makes sense but I want to find out the mystery
of whatever that is sure even though
it seems like a remarkable swing
in well it's kind of interesting
because both of these horror
series that are based on
existing things
you got to do something
and Crystal Lake does the exact same thing
if there is an expansion of the world
and yeah I mean you kind of either
get on board with it or you don't I will say
though three episodes in
that stuff from the beginning has not
come back yet. Okay.
So we are, it's, it's very much just
the carry story school stuff and you know,
episode three is she goes to a party, you know,
and what goes on with all that?
We'll say episode three, you see this mother cleaning a fucking toilet
at this like Walmart that she's working in or whatever.
Now I'm in. I was,
I almost vomited. She fucking fix out
this used condom
the bathroom floor, dude. And they did.
yeah, Amazon put this money where it needs to be.
The condom was filled, ladies.
Oh, good, good.
Did they dribble it out for?
No dribbling, but the condoms was filled, okay?
That's more than other productions would be.
I will say, I love, I really like this actor Samantha Sloane, who plays Carrie's mother.
She was also, but like, and like, again, Flanagan, even more than West Anderson, or literally anyone
I've ever seen, he loves the same actor.
So she's the same.
Yes.
She's kind of playing almost the same character for Midnight Mass a little bit, like this.
Like this religious doubty, whatever.
And I'm like, she must be like, I will take the role.
Can I play like a cool, sexy spy next time?
Can I be like a, or even like a, or a loving mother?
Yeah.
Give her a chance.
I would say give her a chance, Mike.
Didn't she play a kind of against type character in Fall, the House of Usher?
Oh, right.
One of the kids.
And I think that might be a little bit against type.
But more often than not, though, yes, you're right.
It is the dowdy.
usually a zealid for religious reasons
because that's what she is in Midnight Mass
right, just a religious salad
this is very similar to that but I think she's very good
in what she's doing there
the girl
the young girl playing Carrie here
Summer H. Howell sounds like a fucking Gilligan's
Island character she's
really great I think she's fantastic
she plays Carrie with this like air of
curiosity that I think is really interesting
I mean this this movie
makes her basically like
a bunker child kind of.
She's a dog tooth girl, honestly.
There's a lot of where she's like, you know, what's Google and learning about the world?
So I think that that's more isolated than the De Palma interpretation.
She still is very isolated and weird, but it's just kind of a different, a different level of being in the dark, I think.
The broken Kimmy Schmidt.
Yes.
Both of red hair, by the way.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
You're totally right. She is the broken Kimmy Schmidt.
it. But we're going to finish it out. I'm having a good time with it. And again, it is just
kind of nice feeling those Flanagan vibes again. I enjoy his stuff. Chris, you, you know, I mean,
I just watched the first episode like you. So I'm certainly interested. I, I, uh, fall of Usher is the
one that I really love by him. The rest of him I'm kind of in the middle about. So I'm interested
for sure. And I like the story a lot. You have a, uh, I mean, as compared to the DiPama, I can certainly
see if you're comparing them both.
I would see why you would have
this taste here, but I think it's its own good
thing, the way Flanagan is exploring
it in his own way. We'll see what
he does. Yeah, I mean, you're turning
into a TV series. The De Palma
movie is like 98 minutes.
Steve, have you read the book? No,
Jen has also read the book. It's pretty small
I think. It's not, you know, it's so like
the, yeah, because that's what I was wondering when all
that added stuff at the beginning, I was like,
is this stuff that's like maybe mentioned offhandedly
in the book or something? Yeah, apparently this is all
It's all, it's all fighting, which again, like, yeah, points for that.
And I mean, I could see either or a bit, you know, that kind of a deal.
All right.
So this last one here, Eric Siska, we're going to take the lead from you, my friend,
because you have seen a bunch of this as well, but Crystal Lake on Peacock, man, whole baby.
Finished it now.
And I understand a lot of people are upset with it.
I don't really know why, because it's exploring a time period that you never have really seen before.
And at the same time, that lore was made, that that lore never made sense.
anyway. Like, what are you defending the old lore for?
There was a guy that I think he's made like a pretty popular fan film of Jason doing whatever.
And that guy was really pissed off. And it was this whole thing about like, because his phone didn't ring.
Right? I mean, yes, that's 90% of it that he's not saying. Yes, that's absolutely correct.
He's not Brad Caleb Kane. He's possibly angry about that. But like, he was like,
They have disgraced the lore of Pamela and Jason Voorhees.
And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
There's no lore, sir.
This is not Tolkien.
There's not fucking endless novels.
And it's just a fucking lady that got decapitated on a lake.
What are you talking about?
Like never like, okay, so then he read in the original lore.
Like he drowns, he's alive on the shore.
He kills people.
He's got, you know, learning disabilities.
I call them.
And that's basically it.
Eventually he gets killed for real.
And then he comes back from the dead later.
This is,
you know,
making like,
why is he?
I mean,
I guess at the same time,
you don't really need to super explain everything at the same time,
but it sort of explains why he is strong and why this is that and this is that.
So I guess people don't like that after dealing with this character for 45 years or whatever.
Yeah.
Well,
what were you going to do with a TV series?
Exactly.
I mean, I just, like, were you just going to make it like a movie for eight hours?
Like, like one of those movies?
Like, I don't think you would have done that.
And I don't think you would have gotten a lot of people to get on board with your vision.
You can't get mileage out of that.
That's not.
There's nothing there for you.
So, like, I mean, I don't like a lot of TV and I like this.
This is, I thought was very strongly done.
And I thought it was wrapped up very well.
I thought it gets better as it goes on, in my opinion.
And you know what's funny is like the whole Halloween franchise, which I mean, the Friday is indebted too.
Like that is such a Swiss cheese timeline.
Why can't you just say this is over there and this is over here?
That's the thing.
Yep.
The only way to look at it.
The twist or whatever has been spoiled for me.
Oh.
And I'm like, I'm not into that.
But it's like, which is fine.
But you should actually watch the show versus someone on Twitter saying this is what the twist is.
The other thing about the twist and everything is like the show knows it's dumb, but, you know, or like silly.
You know what I mean?
Like it's having fun with stuff.
It's not all hack and slash in the woods.
Because again, like Chris said, like you can't make eight episodes out of that.
You have to have something and like this like mad.
I almost spoiled it.
The route that it takes, I think is funny.
It's goofy.
I was having fun on peacock.
Steve, you might actually like.
this the twist and the turn here because that's when suddenly hamish link later is like a main
character for three episodes wonderful fan of that he's rocking and rolling well yeah and i just like yes
i also think we should all be taking less notes from stranger things i am with you on that for sure
but like i i didn't see it just ham-fistedly doing that it felt like it got there on its own the
thing that it's doing that people are so busy about i i think it's ridiculous to get that
angry about it, but like, no, that's just me.
Because like you're at the end of the day, folks, we are talking about Friday the 13th.
What are you talking about?
You know, like, come on.
And, you know, those movies are fun, but usually you don't have these performances like
Cardalini's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's great.
William Catlett blew me away.
Really, really good.
Get this guy a movie or something.
Seriously. He's fantastic as like the Crystal Lake Sheriff.
And also like, Chelsea pointed out when I was talking to her about it and just like,
you know, telling her why I liked it.
She was like, yeah, because you've always been talking about Crystal Lake Townies.
Like the show really builds up like Crystal Lake Townies in an interesting way.
And Steve, I think something that you'll think is cool too.
There is a whole part of one episode.
They reenact the hitchhiker coming into town from the first movie.
And they went back to Blair, New Jersey and filmed at the exact same spots.
And like the diner, it's still the same diner set that they filmed.
That diner.
Yeah.
It's really, it's really cool.
And I think like it does a really interesting job about like stuff that's like for the fans isn't necessarily fan service.
There's just like references to things like they go to a bar and the bar is called the Pakenackenac Lodge.
And the Packinac Lodge is the cabin from part two that they're all hanging around at.
So just really sort of like interesting things like that.
I think it's worth everybody's time.
I watched it in two days.
Exactly.
And they've they filmed it in New Jersey.
They filmed it in the northeast.
It looks like a northeastern forest for the first.
first time in the franchise since like one since one cool yeah um so it's big recommend from from chris
you finish the whole thing right oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's a recommend i'm i'm i'm hopeful
it gets a season two i don't know what that would look like but i will be there yeah i'll totally
be there i don't know what it would be either but i think it it does end in a really interesting place
and yeah the cool cool performance is all around and cool refs and honestly we haven't mentioned it at all
Cool kills.
I mean, people are getting fucking murdered on this show, which is really nice.
You know what's like a BD we were talking about earlier?
A pea size cock, peacock.
It's on peacock.
Oh, there you go.
It is on peacock.
But that is going to do it, folks.
That is all that we have put in here, all the pod that is fit to spit, I say.
But if you want to hear us talk more, don't worry.
There is a bevy of stuff coming out this week.
Also, one thing that came out on Friday, if you missed it,
over on Patreon too old for this shit on Lantern Season 1.
We dropped that last Friday.
A little bit of a sneak release there.
So if you miss that,
that's us going along on a pretty decent TV show.
Yeah, yeah.
One that we also said we'd come back for.
If you thought we were too positive on this episode,
that one gets, you know.
Yeah, there you go.
We definitely had our squabbles with it,
but listen and decide for yourself.
The Spuctacular is continuing, of course, a pace here.
Coming to an end is the back half of the Spuctuctor.
another one in Franchise Town. This one was a lot of fun.
Coming out tomorrow, Child's Play 2.
Yeah. I'm still
working my way through it, guys. I watched
most of
Bride of Chucky last night. I got a few more
minutes on that guy. They got all the
sequels up there on Netflix and they're all coming
down on Thanksgiving or on Halloween.
So I'm like, this is the deadline. Let's
do it. You only got a few more. Even the latter
ones that are like. Curse, seed.
Yeah, it's all on there. Yeah. Oh, cool.
So that's pretty cool. And that episode
available, wherever you get pods, but also commercial
free on our Patreon. We're also
The Spooktacular is rolling
over and do some bonus shows on there as well.
Steve, we're talking about a pretty cool
cartoon on animation damnation.
Yes, we're going back to the 70s
with to Switch a Witch, an old school
Scooby-Doo one, not the original
like the 70s one.
Very, very, you know, it's all the same
vibes though. The Scooby-Doo show.
That's what you're looking for.
Right, right, right. That's drop in
Thursday. And then Friday, Eric, closing out with
a bleep glossary of a pretty disgusting
fellow, huh? Baudubaz. Yes, this is a nasty looking character. He's like a lobster that floats or
something. Hell yeah. Tune in to the mania that is the Gleap Glop Glossary Stories from the
Star Wars universe. There you go. And then Saturday, of course, big news, which is, oh, oh, no, that fucking
son of a bitch. Yeah, I do hate when that happens. Turns out, yeah, I do hate when that happens. The control
room's playing pranks on us again. And I just, I put that overlay up for no.
reason because my fat fingers are all over the keyboard here.
But that is going to do it, folks.
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