We Hate Movies - S3 Ep112: Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence

Episode Date: May 28, 2013

In this week's episode, the gang takes to the streets with zombie police officer, Matt Cordell, in the final part of the classic? trilogy, Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence! How did the movie get away wi...th recycling this much footage? How is Maniac Cop selecting his victims? And how is there so little Maniac Cop in the film? Plus: Maniac Cop meets the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence stars Robert Davi, Robert Z'Dar, Caitlin Dulany and Gretchen Becker; directed by William Lustig. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Amanda Joopin. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the program. Thank you for tuning in. This is the final week of Listener Request Month 3. I feel like we should have had some sort of cool, like sequel name. Like Listener Request Month 3, The Reckoning. Or the return of them.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Or the badge of silence. Oh, man. So, yeah, before we get to today's topic, the call for this week was from a woman named Aaron in the Bronx. since she had this to say. Hi, this is Aaron from the Bronx, if you wanted stats. Getting in my listen request, I'm under the wire, because I really want to hear someone other than me and my girlfriends talk about Maniac Cop 3, Badge of Silence. We're obsessed with it.
Starting point is 00:01:13 You've referred to Maniac Cop, but I'm talking about number three, where a maniac cop is slowly working his way through a hospital, getting revenge, sort of not really. The flashback sequence showing how Maniac Cop died is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. I would highly recommend it to anyone who's ever wondered whether a zombie can drive while on fire. So please watch it.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I love it. Please enjoy. So, all right, Aaron, for you and your girlfriends, Maniac Cop 3, Badge of Silence, from 1993, directed by William Lustig. Who has directed four movies with the word maniac in them. That's right. Three of them being this series.
Starting point is 00:01:52 This trilogy, and then, of course, there's the seminal maniac film, which has nothing to do with Maniac Cop. uh by the way check out the remake with elijah wood yeah good movie uh not a good movie maniac cop three badge of silence let's try to stay on track here as much as possible uh this is the third installment obviously in the maniac cop franchise and uh eric i believe you did a full rewatch of this series yes i watched one two and three in preparation for the culmination of listener request month that's some dedication i've seen
Starting point is 00:02:26 all of these movies. I watched the first two ages ago. Yeah, I saw the first one a while ago and I was like, oh, Bruce Campbell's in. I'll do that. Okay, fine. Sold on groovy Bruce. Yeah, he's in the first two. He's in the second one, too. And I stayed around for that one, too. And Robert Davy
Starting point is 00:02:42 was in the second one as well, and he comes back for this one. Beautiful passing of the torch between him and Campbell as protagonists. Hanson, Bruce Campbell, and stewed prune, Robert Davey. Yeah, he's a guy who's been angry since the
Starting point is 00:02:56 womb, huh? Well, you know, because he's like the grizzled detective and, you know, Bruce Campbell's the idealistic patrolman with... But I mean, he looks grizzled, I suppose, but like he also looks like he's supposed to be like snapping his fingers every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, he looks like he could be like a Bing Crosby, like, ba, blah, blah, ba, ba, hey, baby, baby, baby, mini a cop, but he's just Italian. Well, he did direct that movie where it was that very thing. It was him, Chaz Palman, Terry, and Peter Bogdanovich as like, lounge singers.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Call the Dukes, I believe. Oh, my God. Count me out. Sign me up. That Peter Bogdanovich, man. He's great. He's a wild man. So this movie starts with a little bit of a scroll.
Starting point is 00:03:46 There's a preamble. And I was like, wait, John Larket's going to say something. I wish. Why would he say something? Texas Chainsawr Massacre, man. I was like, come on, do it. Because it's like all like what's, Matt Cordell was a cop and he was a good cop. Then somebody braimed him.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Blub, but, but, but, but, but he became a maniac cop. Well, he, to be clear, he went to prison, right? Am I getting this right? He did. Officer Matt Cordell went to prison because he didn't play by the rules. He was a goddamn hero cop. That's what he was. Yeah, that's what he was.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He put a lot of men behind bars and then he got too close to those in power down by City Hall. Oh, man. And then guess what? You're taking the fall now because you didn't, you, you, you weren't going to turn. I'm guessing this is about bribery at the end of the day or kickbacks or something. It's always about kickbacks. Yeah, I guess so they set them up.
Starting point is 00:04:41 They send him, uh, I guess to Rikers. Yeah. He goes to the tombs. And they, uh, they slash his face apart in a shower. That's what happens. And then we get this thing in this, there's a flashback. And then he dies. And then he becomes a maniac.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And then there's a flashback in this movie where he runs through a prison brick wall. Yeah, well, at some point he became Jason Voorhees in the afterlife. That's what this, essentially that's what these movies are. He's Jason Voorhe's dressed up as a police officer. Which is pretty great. It is pretty great. It's like Jason with some authority. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And I mean, we're talking about maniac cop and Matt Cordell here. But really, he's an afterthought in this movie. And this is what I wanted to bring up. Continuing our tradition of doing horror sequels, franchises that are absent of the franchise figure. You know, we did Halloween 3 and Michael Myers is nowhere to be found. We did Friday the 13th 5, a new beginning where it's some dude playing Jason. This movie is very much maniac cop without maniac cop. I mean, he's around. But he's not really around. I mean, he's doing the killing, which, don't get me wrong, I'm, you know. That's what we're all here for. You're giving me what I want.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah. Thank you for that. But, like, as far as him coming back and what his motives are as a supernatural killing machine. Right. It doesn't really matter. He's just killing people that the audience doesn't like. Well, because his killing had purpose before in the other movies, because in the first one, he's trying to get back at the police force.
Starting point is 00:06:25 for what happened to him and then the second one he gets back at the prisoners who who cut up his face and uh in this one it's just for for some reason well he's a hired gun well he's resurrected by in a voodoo mass right so let's get into it after the scroll which you're totally right chris if you have a scroll in your movie someone better be saying something because i'm just watching it might as well be an FBI warning what about Star Wars? Well, there's not, that's the thing. Somebody should be saying something. You're right, Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Somebody should be saying something like a James Earl Jones or a John Laracette, or there's a triumphant John Williams score. Not silence as this fucking thing rolls by. I want a maniac cop to be scored by John Williams. Oh, what an epic maniac cop entry that would be. He spat on that offer. What are you fucking talking about? John Williams doesn't know that there's a movie called Maniac Cop 3.
Starting point is 00:07:24 There's no idea that there was ever any other movies besides Spielberg. Just another word on these scrolls is that if you're going to talk about like the world is dying or a country is on the brink or something like that, then you want your James Earl Jones. Oh, I was going to say, are you talking about maniac cop? Because I missed that fucking. That's the difference between the John Larichette scroll and the James Earl Jones scroll. Okay, I see what you're saying. Like personal misery and cutting up of people's. That's Larcats department.
Starting point is 00:07:54 That's his wheelhouse. How much you think he got paid for it? I think there's some rumor John Lurkech got paid and weed for that movie. I've no idea. Which is so fucking great. I love that. I'd believe it, though. I wouldn't be surprised.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And it wasn't much. It wasn't a lot of weed and it was kind of some of that skunk weed. Oh, it was shake. It was all shake. Yeah. It was mostly seeds and sticks. Oh, wow. I came all the way down to this Texas recording studio for some seeds.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Thanks a lot, Toby. I'm supposed to roll this. really you want me to roll a seed so yeah all right so let's get into it this is this is very much the weekend at bernies two of the maniac cop franchise and this movie came out a year or two before weekend at bernies two but basically right we start after the silence we start in oh maybe that was the badge of silence the scroll oh that's what it is because it's literally nowhere else in this movie makes no sense absolutely no damn sense so we start off it's kind of finally Matt Cordell's funeral and we're cutting between that which I think is actually recycled shots from the end of the second movie does he jump out of the well no in this movie
Starting point is 00:09:06 where he jumps out of the grave oh well there was a second one starts with the end footage from the first one they're all recycled because I believe in the end of the second one there's a there's a shot of the coffin with his hand coming out like it's good there's there'll probably be a sequel these things like to set up
Starting point is 00:09:23 sequels you're not going to believe this and all these movies you know second and third do so many flashbacks that are just recycled footage from the other films which is the that is the laziest way to make a fucking horror sequel I'm looking at you
Starting point is 00:09:39 silent night deadly night too oh yeah big time but like and keep in mind these running times are only like 80 minutes or so yeah they're really just grasping at straws for a story here it's just padding and also but keeping this is also a a Jason issue.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Why are you burying the zombie? Why aren't you burning the body of the maniac cobb zombie? Why are you bur? I understand he was a good Christian man. He's a hero cop. I get it. But still, he also
Starting point is 00:10:09 went on a huge rampage and killed a bunch of people after resurrecting twice. Yeah, but he's human. And he deserves a human. No, he's not human. He's dead. He deserves a burial. He shouldn't be buried on American soil. God. damn it you should flip that critter out to see like they did to osami bin laden i will be good
Starting point is 00:10:30 and god damn if he ain't sent back to russia and buried in that dirty cold russian soil look just put him in a huge doritos bag go out to canadian waters and throw them overboard then i'm happy just like i did to my first wife man i would attend maniac cop's funeral if that's how he was being buried in a giant dorino bag i'd be like well Well, this is a lifetime opportunity. No, because he's going to come back. He's going to want to get to the bottom of that bag. It's going to be like that shitty, the shitty remake of Godzilla
Starting point is 00:11:05 where the Godzilla's going underwater. Oh, Jesus. Slowly to New York. Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. I will just say this for our listeners out there. Summer Blockbuster 2013. That's all I'll say.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So this voodoo guy. Nobody's seen him before. He's not in the other movies. And he just, as we learn, kind of just likes resurrecting people. It makes not a lick of sense. We haven't seen this guy before. He's just standing there. He's just making these weird.
Starting point is 00:11:39 He's stabbing a head. There's a head of some sort of vagrant that is not the maniac cop head, which I thought it was at first. But this dude's conducting this spell. And we're cross-cutting back and forth between the dude doing this, this seance or whatever, this spell casting and the funeral and so we put it together okay for whatever reason this dude's resurrecting maniac cop like all right here we go uh and he says this big long spell jams a knife in this other person's skull and maniac cop's eyeballs open up he burst the hand out and this is the footage from the end of the second movie the hand bursts out and he doesn't he grabs
Starting point is 00:12:16 the badge yes and then that's it and then that's all they show but now they like they filmed and extended more shots for that scene of him actually now ascending from the grave. Yeah, it takes fucking ten minutes of him like cutting back between these two things and then them just strolling the streets.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Well, it takes a while to cast a spell. There is a lot of maniac cop just walking around in broad fucking daylight in this movie. There's one shot of him just standing in the middle of the cemetery just standing there for no reason. He can do whatever he wants. But he clear,
Starting point is 00:12:50 has the face of a monster. He's New York's finest. Get it through your head. Look, if you see a gigantic, like, Jason-sized mutated pig man, you're going to do something about it. You're not going to look and be like, look at that monster.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh, you know what? He's behind the blue line. Look at that uniform. His face is actually getting to that Jason Voorhe's undead phase. It's the same thing. ripped that hockey mask off in part 7 he looks like a reptilian. Looks like it's about
Starting point is 00:13:24 to harden. It's so shitty. I mean... Oh yeah, that was pretty bad. That's worse than Mania cops. It is. Maniac cop's been slashed up and then he's been burned and then he's been dead. So it's got to look to it. His face looks like the fucking ginger dead
Starting point is 00:13:40 man though, whatever that movie was with Gary Busey. Is it the ginger bread man? I thought it was the ginger dead man. There's a horror movie called The Ginger Dead Man, but there's also the gingerbread man with Kenneth Broughton Gary Oldman. No, no, no. Film critic.
Starting point is 00:13:57 The shitty horror movie where Gary Busey's soul... Oh, Gary Bucie. I thought I said Gary Oldman. I thought Gary Bucie's soul went into a cookie. A gingerbread cookie man. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, but he looks like a dead man's face? No, the... I mean, it's a shitty fucking puppet.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, right, okay. You know, because he's got to move around and he's got a bunch of catchphrases. It's just like that Jack Frost or Child's Right. So it's a brown crumply face instead of a gray comply face. Yes, exactly. That's the point of making. And the difference between him and Jason is that with Maniac Cop, at least I can tell where the eyes and the mouth are. Or Jason, it could be anywhere. The eyeball could be in the back of the head.
Starting point is 00:14:37 This voodoo ritual that's going on is also another opportunity for them to just stroll through all that footage from the other movies because he's like, oh, Maniac Cop, you were. pretty good at being a maniac cop you did this and you did this all your achievements maniac cop and it's just all the murders all the getting set on fire he gets set on fire in every movie he's just torched i think the people behind this movie larry cohen all these guys i think they had stock in like a fire suit company well because they're getting use out of the fire suits in all these movies especially this one and we'll get to why a little later it looks a surprisingly good, I'll add. It does look good, but why do you need this many
Starting point is 00:15:23 fire suit scenes? How many times are you going to burn this fucker? But also, what's his name? Is it Robert Zar? Yeah, Robert. Zard. Zadar. The guy who plays maniac cop, the actor. Like, in the first one, he didn't look too bad. Like, he kind of
Starting point is 00:15:42 looked weird, but he didn't look too bad, like, as far as just, like, his eyeballs. But, like, this is where he's in, like, this is about the same time as Tango and Cash. where he's just got that face. God, I forgot he's in there. He is in that movie. I was going to say the first one is the worst because you could mostly see his face.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. But he got like the, the bejillion drugs face. Oh, is that what those faces? And this. Right. I think he naturally has a really giant face.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Oh, it's pretty big, no matter what. Things might have added to it over the course of time. Sure. Right. You get a little older. You've just been reprising this maniac.
Starting point is 00:16:20 cop role over the years you know yeah we all get puffier yeah it's the sands of time uh so we're introduced to robert davy in this movie he's back from the second one he's at a firing range uh and this is where we're you know we meet his like younger female cop buddy i guess there's kind of like a father-daughter thing going on here he calls he refers to her as like a younger sister type that's right yeah um and like this is by the way this is the movie yes this is the plot of this movie so right so basically this uh this kate sullivan uh as a cop and she goes on a call and it's jackie earl haley robbing a pharmacy and uh basically there's like a shootout and we'll get into it now so it's basically like well yeah go ahead jack or jegger
Starting point is 00:17:13 he's robin this pharmacy and initially two cops do come to try to stop him and he just guns them down like instantly yeah he's got a shotgun and he gets gets into the back room where all the drugs are happening and then he starts happening those drugs it's like a real fucking like ponderosa all you can eat buffet with these drugs yeah he's popping who knows what i mean like he's mixing the macaroni and cheese with the chicken wings and the green oh he's got zips and jello he's like he's taking everything this place has to offer he's uh he's he's john belushi at a buffet I would like it if Don't know much about history
Starting point is 00:17:53 While he's shooting up in the He's shooting morphine into his neck And that song's playing He doesn't know much about biology or history He sees a degenerate Yeah he doesn't know much about biology About how his heart's about to explode He's just looking at he's like
Starting point is 00:18:10 Oh look zips, reds, blues caps, pops, uppers, downers Low blows Like he's going through all these things And then, yeah, the fucking PSD resistance of his drug binge is a big old morphine injection into his neck. And then, and then he slurps jello off a plate. And then anyway, so Kate Sullivan is now, your goddamn hero cop is coming down to save this problem. Right, exactly. And she can't, he's behind bulletproof glass.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like, they have a brief shootout. He gets behind into the way back of the pharmacy. Which I haven't, you know, I've been to a lot of pharmacies in my day. I've never seen one that's behind bulletproof glass. but I guess if it's in like a... Old New York. I mean, I've been to bad liquor stores where there's bulletproof class everywhere. Or a liquor store in a bad neighborhood, I should clarify.
Starting point is 00:18:57 That's some weird shit. You're like, hey, can I get this $7 bottle of whiskey? And someone has to rotate it around a bulletproof turn style. Yeah, I mean, if they have those for like... Because they have those in like bodegas, too. Right. So if you're doing that to protect some, I don't know, like Parliament Slims, it makes sense that you would also do it for the morphine.
Starting point is 00:19:17 and the Adderall and whatever the fuck else is back there. So she's trying to get down now from the roof into this bulletproof box. And this is a great moment because she just walks on the skylight and she falls through the glass. It looks like it's a complete accident, which is interesting. I don't know if she's ready for what she's about to do or what, but she just falls through this thing. Kind of lands on Jackie Errolaley, but not really. And, you know, there's a big standoff. he grabs a hostage who's working there and there's a big thing she kills jack or shoots jack er hilly
Starting point is 00:19:53 excuse me shoots him he goes down and she's like talking to the hostage like it's cool you know i'm here now you're safe blah blah blah and she's like you shot him and it's like whoa twist man she's in it with jack year ill haley and so she draws the gun and this chick kate turns around and blows this chick's brains out after getting a shot herself by she also gets shot uh so then what we also have going on in this scene is we're introduced to two hilarious tabloid journalists who just i guess i guess this is a thing freelance video journalist that just drive around with a video camera listening to a police scanner and they like wait for the big cases to pop up the ones that the networks will pay like juicy money for but this is
Starting point is 00:20:43 is, yeah, but this is more of like, this this is journalism. This is what it fucking is. It's just a bunch of people who hate people. Yeah, these guys have no regard for humanity. It's like, whatever makes the best
Starting point is 00:20:58 fucking story. Folks at home, we're not kidding here, because in this scene, one of these journalists actually pray for misfortune to befall people so that they could get a better scoop. Everything is better. Like, if there's a kid in danger like all that shit and actually robert davy very classily pushed them off his crime scene
Starting point is 00:21:20 telling them there was good action somewhere else and that crime scene was the body of that of that head that voodoo head that was being tinkered on and it's got a smiley face painted into the ground where the head should be i think that's a gag like on the police department's part oh it's not like a of voodoo rights? No, well, what he realizes is the voodoo part of it. Well, he doesn't realize anything because he's Robert Davin. He's a terrible detective in this movie. But there's feathers and like chicken bones and shit in the next stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:54 There's chicken feet. Oh, feet, you're right. I think they might have shoved the whole chicken in this guy. Just head first shoving a chicken down his neck? Yeah, there's that shot of Robert David just like playing with a chicken finger. Yeah. We are in a world where a maniac cop comes back. from the dead. Conceivably, you could
Starting point is 00:22:13 have a chicken down someone's decapitated throat throat husk. Body crevel. Yeah, I think neck hole. Neck hole is what you want to go. Right, right. Because people say they shit down neck. Yeah, that's a, oh yeah, yeah. I guess it's just a neck. Yeah. I guess you just open up a neck. Yeah. All right, we got
Starting point is 00:22:33 opened that one. We're better detectives than Robert Davy is, by the way. So yeah, he's at the crime scene of this homeless guy. And the vood guy is sitting right there playing dumb and he's like hey do you see what went down here and this guy starts spouting off all this crazy guy's shit he's like oh
Starting point is 00:22:51 I see all I see beyond what you see I see into the heavens and all this shit and Robert Davy's like all right well this guy can't possibly be a suspect because he's crazy and kind of just leaves the crime scene was it the guy yeah what are you doing
Starting point is 00:23:06 he's playing it real cool he's so cocky. He's like, oh, no one's ever going to suspect this crazy homeless guy. What is Robert Davy doing? Being the world's worst detective in this movie. He's fucking heinous at this job. He's got
Starting point is 00:23:21 this shitty hat, and like he always has shitty hats in movies. I've always noticed this about Robert Davy I have, is that he's these shitty ass hats just to make himself what he thinks is cool. Maybe directors think he would look better like that. I think it's an
Starting point is 00:23:37 acting decision. Robert, we want you to put this hat on. I won't do it. I want to put this hat on. Well, as long as you cover it up. So he gets the call that Kate's been shot and he goes to the hospital and get ready to spend
Starting point is 00:23:53 some time in this hospital, by the way, because it's kind of most of this movie. It's sort of like Halloween 2. It's sort of like visiting hours. We're just horror movie in a hospital once again, because this hasn't been done to death. It's really boring.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yeah, it certainly is. You know what? Say what you will about it. It's convenient for the victims. It's true. It's convenient for maniac cop because there's just all these sitting ducks around. But honestly, if you ever want to assault me, maybe threaten my life, potentially kill me, do it in a hospital. I guess. I mean, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Convenience. I like that. So maniac cop, meanwhile, you know, again, just strolling around in public. He's, by the way, this movie, this is a good point to bring this up, because there is a scene where Maniac Cop walks across what is clearly the L.A. River, okay? L.A. River, famous from Greece, Terminator 2, a million other movies. He's walking under, you know, the overpass through the L.A. River. This movie is supposed to take place in New York City. I know the first one definitely is filmed on location in New York. I'm not sure. about the second one, but I think so. This third one, they make no effort to say that this is New York City
Starting point is 00:25:17 or to show that this is New York City. They say it's New York City up and down the fucking board. But this is just Los Angeles. But like every scene takes place at night, so who cares? Exactly. But if that's the case, there's even one shot, there's like an exterior, it's supposed to be like the Manhattan
Starting point is 00:25:32 skyline. All you have to do, this is 1993 everybody. All you have to do show me an exterior that has the World Trade Center in it. That's all you have to do. Okay, everybody, we're in New York. That's the end of that. Every episode of fucking Sports Night, soundstage
Starting point is 00:25:49 in California somewhere. Oh, what's that? Opening credits, World Trade Center? Boom, we're in New York City. Friends, same thing. They make no effort to get any kind of B-roll from New York City. How lazy is that shit? Recycle the establishing shots from the first movie because you've done it with everything
Starting point is 00:26:08 else. No, no, no, no, no. We only recycle the gore. Everything else, we got to whip up from scratch. Just borrow it from somebody else. Buy somebody else's B-roll. Yeah, it doesn't have to be stuff you buy. People sell B-roll all the time. That's why it's B-roll. Just fucking go out there and get it. So this is where this, this movie is frustrating. I'm sorry. Take out the trash while you're doing it. And this is where this movie now hears the twist.
Starting point is 00:26:36 they're in the hospital and all the television radios are on and it turns out that Jackie Earl Haley after doing all these fucking drugs killing two police officers getting shot three times in the chest he is
Starting point is 00:26:58 he survived A and is B now suing the department because of What? Because of, I believe it's some sort of excessive force thing. She's also using like a semi-automatic weapon that is not police issue whatsoever. That's, I think, the bigger thing. It's a great scene with a kind of favorite character actor of mine, Grand L. Bush.
Starting point is 00:27:30 He's been in a million things, including the first two lethal weapons, the first diehard and demolition man. Well, he's with Robert Davy in Diehard. Yes, that's right. Oh, that's so weird. The FBI agent in Die Hard. Yes. So Grandel Bush in this movie meets Robert Davy for some Chinese food. And he's sort of like in the upper brass of the police department.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And he's just like telling him how this chick's just fucked. You know, and he's like, you know, she had this gun. It's not standard issue. And there's a great line where he's like, you know, she knows that. You know that? scumbag knows that it's fucking crudy just refers to Jackie Earl Haley as
Starting point is 00:28:10 scumbag it's so fantastic at this point the news article the news has played the footage of uh that these the scumbag uh journalists have taken yeah these other scumbags they've like edited it
Starting point is 00:28:25 to shit or like didn't get the good vantage point and it looks like that she's just gunning down the hostage and cold blood for who cares yeah it's clearly edited and I think it's Ted Ramey is the newscaster. Ted Ramey is the news reporter. Yeah, but you're right, Eric. So that's the thing is these news camera guys, these news crew dudes,
Starting point is 00:28:44 they do make mention of editing the footage to make it look a little more sensational. You know, get those, get those dollar, dollar bills, y'all. Yeah, you got to. You have to. You got to keep working that fucking money, man. You really got to. But so that's why she's kind of, her career's going up in smoke now because everybody thinks she just gunned down. this innocent chick
Starting point is 00:29:07 and Jackie O'Hilley without being provoked. Ted Ramey has my favorite line in this in that he refers to the incident as a black rainbow of terror. That's right. Way too
Starting point is 00:29:23 drum. What are you fucking Fox News? Well, those do, you know, New York City, those will pop up every once in a while. Black rainbows of terror? Yes. I'm standing outside LaRue's pharmacy at 125th Street in Lexington
Starting point is 00:29:39 during an event which can only be described as a black rainbow of terror. I guess Matt Cordell, the maniac cop, is maybe drawn to her because she was a hero cop that's being set up the river just like he was.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yes, you're exactly right. So while after maniac cop hilariously walks across the L.A. River, he makes his way to the church where the voodoo guy is hanging out. And the voodoo guys, like, you're probably wondering why I called you here, Maniac Cop. Truth is, I don't really know, because this is a shitty movie. Your guess is good as mine.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. Like, he explains to Maniac Cop, like, I can't bring just anybody back from the dead. Your soul has to be willing to become a zombie. Keep that in mind for later. And so, he, like, Maniac Cop's got this baton where, like, he can pull the handle off and there's a knife there. And he's like, oh, you want to kill me, Maniac Cop? that's cool, but I bet
Starting point is 00:30:35 you want to hang around and see what cool killing missions I can put you on. So then the radio is on and this story comes over the radio about what happened to her. So Maniac Cop gets pissed off and he set out to and this is Maniac Cop's mission in this movie
Starting point is 00:30:51 to get revenge on all the people that he believes helped set up this police officer. Because yeah, it's just, he is having some crazy PTSD flashbacks right now. This is exactly what happened to him. He tried to fight on the side
Starting point is 00:31:08 for good and he got fucked over by the establishment. It's like if Jason Roy, he saw some other kid be left to drown and was just like, hey, come on. But it's not like he even like, it's like he feels who's involved. Like he's like communicating with some other side.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, you're right. He's been to the other side. I suppose so. Well, you're right though because there's no way maniac cop can know the people involved in this case. The devil's help. it's probably the devil you're right it's usually him um and there's also this really weird and like highly sexualized uh like it's like a general hospital thing like they're all like the um one of the surgeons who's working on kate yes uh starts up a kind of a thing with robert davy or
Starting point is 00:31:58 davy i always said davy i i don't know what it is whatever you can you guys keep saying it your way i'll say it my way and maybe he'll write us a letter one of us will be ignorant at the end of the day um probably three of us and uh but there's also this he's my favorite character in the movies there's this other doctor oh this guy's the biggest douche bag and he's uh he's like trying to hit on everybody uh robert davy comes up to him and is like so how how's kate doing how's he's like uh she's uh she's done she's out of here and then he says this Stick her in a rock garden
Starting point is 00:32:35 Stick her in a rock garden Are you serious How about some bedside man? Or you're a fucking physician He'd be fired immediately I couldn't believe this Out of all the ridiculous things That I've already seen in this movie
Starting point is 00:32:49 This was the most shocking I was like I can't believe a doctor's acting like this And you know rock gardens aren't zoned To store corpses That needs to be in a proper grave Six feet deep I mean a body is like Like, how many rocks?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Like, at least two dozen. Oh, that's how Captain Kirk was buried. That's actually a pretty good death. Well, you know, rock garden, he means cemetery, right? Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, because... You never heard someone call a cemetery a rock garden or a rock farm?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Not in my life. Really? Yeah, that's what he's talking. He's saying, you put her in the ground. Does he... Wait, rocks grow out of cemeteries? Yes. And that's what tombstones are?
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, you didn't know that. That's how it's going to blossom into a boulder. I planted a bunch of tombstone scenes this week. But that is the expression, rock garden cemetery. He's saying, just cut the cord and barrier because she's brain dead. Because it sounded so weird to me when I heard it. I was just like a rock garden. I can't believe you never heard that turn of phrase before.
Starting point is 00:33:48 You just need a pile of pebbles? I thought it was like a garden in Japan or maybe New Mexico. I would like to see someone else finally. be buried like Captain Kirk or Curley in fucking city slickers. They just pile a bunch of rocks on Jack Palance and that's the end of them. Both are American
Starting point is 00:34:11 heroes. You're absolutely right. Never forget. The woman who's been shot this Kate character who's in this coma, we see like a flashback or no, it's a dream sequence that she has.
Starting point is 00:34:27 This is just out of nowhere. Like this character's in a coma. She's not a character in this movie. Why do we have to see her dreams but it's basically like she walks in and something like out of the i will do anything for love music video all this like shitty blue lighting and like white curtains are flapping everywhere kind of november rain it's yeah it's yeah it's november rain situation and she's like walking down this aisle and there's only cops in this church and you're like all right that's weird and she gets to the altar and she's about to marry maniac cop it's a ghost wedding it's amazing. It's so ridiculous. She looks all pale and weird and there's maniac cop there at the
Starting point is 00:35:07 altar. Why is she being, why is her soul being tethered to maniac cop in this ghost dream though? Well, also because, and we'll get to this later, she is bride of maniac cop. She is bride of maniac cop to a degree, although it ain't so successful. Well, no. As we'll learn. It's also, it's not consensual really it's just an arranged marriage by the devil i guess and also somebody at some point says she has the nickname of maniac kate yes because and that's what's weird too is they're like oh this cop's hard on crime much like that lunatic maniac cop we all remember she's not taking kickbacks and eating hot dogs all day like me yeah that's a maniac she likes to arrest people for a living. What a crazy
Starting point is 00:35:59 person. But that's something like I need to see. Like if you're going to do that, if you're going to like make somebody is like a really like a tough ass cop like other than the pharmacy scene. That's them trying to show you that I guess. But I mean even that she's just
Starting point is 00:36:14 kind of a other than the gun. She's just kind of doing what a good cop would do. Maniac Kate, I need to see some like some kind of questionable shit's going on. No, no, no. That's because that's the thing is it's so corrupt that, you know, doing bad things is, oh, that's just a normal cop. It's Joey.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And then being a good cop is just like, get out of here, you nut. So this is a nickname that's given to her by other corrupt cops. Yeah, because the whole force is tainted. I see what you're saying. Yeah, that actually makes sense. Yeah, I can get down on that. So what's great is, so maniac cop gets to this hospital. and he's standing outside
Starting point is 00:36:56 just looking up at this thing like all right I'm about to take on this whole hospital and I don't know if he's like a homeless guy or what this dude's deal is like he's just like a just an asshole on the street yeah he is just he's just an asshole and he comes up to maniac cop like from behind and he's like hey I hear this is the hospital
Starting point is 00:37:16 where they're keeping that maniac Kate if you ask me she finally got what she deserved all these pigs around here blah blah and he goes on to say like oh ain't ain't the wild west you bunch of funny cowboys So hilariously This is the best death in this movie Maniac cop picks this dude up by one hand
Starting point is 00:37:32 And chucks him And then draws his firearm And fucking blows this dude away in midair He plays skeep with a person Yeah It's incredible It's like the old west You throw a can up and you shoot it
Starting point is 00:37:46 This is my problem with the premise Of what Maniac cop is though Like Maniac Cops got a couple Of different killing methods here and there but his favorite method of killing is his trusty revolver. Now, I get this as supposed to be New York City. Like, this franchise is New York City from like the late 80s into the early 90s. And, you know, it was kind of a bad town, whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You can't tell me that outside a hospital, this dude can let off like six rounds into this guy's chest, and no one's coming outside to take a look at what's going on? Somebody's poking their head out the window Someone is going to look out and be like I just heard six shots rattle off Into the night What is going on outside? Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:32 they're an old New York people Just didn't care too much You remember that old Fable at the start of the Watchman By Alan Moore About that girl That gets murdered and no one cares Yeah, that's like
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's like this maniac Kate It's all the same well this isn't like new york city with like fucking bill the butcher's walking around we have laws someone's gonna give a shit robert davy maybe but he wasn't he wasn't around so the first uh like instance of uh in hospital murdering is great it's this dickhead surgeon again and we meet back up with this dude he's like going down on a nurse in the doctor's break room oh he's looking for the man in the boat. Yeah, well, he's found it and
Starting point is 00:39:25 took sale. And then Maniac cop just interrupts him. Worst cock block, just bangs on the door. Yeah, Maniac cop would have made a terrible college roommate. The worst wingman. It's really stupid, too.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Like, they cut to this woman, and her head's cocked back, and she's in ecstasy. And then, like, there's the pounding on the door, and she ignores it. And then, like, this dude just stands up and you're like, oh, that's what's going on. Thanks, Maniac Cop 3 badge of silence. So the dude puts up, like, all his clothes on like, what the fuck's going on around here? And he just opens this door.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And this is pretty awesome. Maniac cop's got the defibrillator paddles. And he's just hitting him with it. He's panelling him to death. And it's so great because he's dragging the cart behind him. Or, like, the box he's trying to care. Like, listen, killing him. someone with defibrillator paddles
Starting point is 00:40:23 is not a really great way to kill someone. Can you see him dragging this thing around? He's chasing the guy down the hallway. It's impractical. And then also, they go up to the roof and he's still dragging that machinery. Exactly. He's carrying this box with it. And the guy ends up on this like
Starting point is 00:40:38 metal grate and he like, you know, a maniac cop like electrocutes the grate and to finally finish him. Yes. And the dude he goes off the roof. Yes. No, he panels him to the face. Oh, I guess he falls forward and then... Well, he dies.
Starting point is 00:40:54 He gets hurt really bad. Let's just say he gets hurt really bad. Then they just panel him to the face. He's like his brain electrocutes. So this other doctor, the doctor that Robert Davy's like got a crush on, why is she walking around in the hospital basement? I don't remember how she gets to this point. But she runs into a fella that looks exactly like Bob Marley, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Well, she sees Maniac Cop finishing off. Meyerson, uh, the pervert shitty doctor, yeah. Uh, and she's like, she goes to follow him. And then, yeah, just a, his mom marley look like is just down there. I think he's supposed to be like a janitor or something. Yes, he is supposed to be a janitor. He's actually been in a lot of movies.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Oh, really? For, and the only one I can think of right now is only the strong. What's that? It's a movie about kids doing capo, Brazilian capoeita in Miami. Nice. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, stay tuned. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That's perfect. Fodder, excellent. Yeah, so she runs into this dude, and this guy, like, knows her by name, like, he's just like, oh, Dr. Fowler, what are you doing down here? I'm like, this janitor doesn't know this doctor's name. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:07 she's like, oh, I was just following somebody, and he's like, these tunnels, all these pipes around here, it's pretty dangerous, get out of here. But Maniac Cop knows where he's going, and somehow, and this is clearly never explained. This basement of this hospital
Starting point is 00:42:22 somehow leads the tunnels go around and he's kind of in the sewer at some point and he gets back to the church as his like home base. It's actually, this is a lot like diehard too. Maniac cops set up in this abandoned church not too far away
Starting point is 00:42:39 from the hospital or airport where he's supposed to be raining all this terror. Interesting. It's also a lot like the ninja turtles. Man, I would love to see Ninja Turtles having to go up against Maniac cop. They don't
Starting point is 00:42:55 understand that like a cop is capable of being bad. So they're having trouble fighting him. They just can't bring themselves to do it. It's the same era of New York too. It is. Hey, you want some pizza? Snaps their neck. Man, I know it'll be a tragedy for
Starting point is 00:43:11 every child on Earth, but if you just saw a Ninja Turtle get fucking murdered. Like a maniac cop, just a swift neck break. He gangs Donatello through the head. And then Shredder can be like, finally, thanks to Maniac Cop, I can have my turtle soup. You've done well, Maniac Cop. Now go hang, have a cigarette with Bebop and Rock Steady.
Starting point is 00:43:34 The bus to Dimension X leaves in 45 minutes. You're going to want to, no, if you're getting off at the first stop at Dimension X, you're going to want to be in the front of the Technodrome for where the doors open. They will not open in the back. Maniac cop's just like sending pieces of Leonardo to splinter What a tragic end for the turtles Michael Bay if you're listening So out of nowhere Paul Gleason and Robert Forster
Starting point is 00:44:08 Just waltz into this movie For what? Because Maniac cop has to have people to kill And I guess I guess William Lustig was like, hey character actors I've known from the 70s and 80s come being this shitty sequel
Starting point is 00:44:24 of mine. But I feel like you're backloading your movie. Like Robert David beats out Robert Forrester and fucking Paul Gleason? No way. No way. Maybe in 1993. I don't know, man. Because like what? Well, I guess because he had just
Starting point is 00:44:41 been, isn't this right when he does the Bond villain? Who? David Davy. Oh, which one is that? Licensed to kill? No. I'll have to check in with the internet on that. But I guess the only reason why is because Robert Davy's got the, he's grandfathered in from that second movie.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah, I suppose that. Robert Forster and Paul Gleason aren't in the other movies. Yeah. Licensed to Kill, by the way, is 89. So he'd been in that already. But also there's a great line where, um, uh, so after my. the pervert doctor gets killed Robert Davy
Starting point is 00:45:19 and the doctor, the female doctor are upstairs and they're talking and she's like, how do you get through it? Like when you have a bad day, like, I don't know how to deal with this. How do you get through it? And he says the way he gets through it is with a pint of ice cream and whipped cream.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Robert Dobby, what are you, a Kathy cartoon? I just love, I would love... You got the best metabolism in the world. I would just love that. scene, like a lethal weapon-esque scene where he comes home, turns on the blues music, he lights a cigarette, throws his jacket down, and then, like, you think he's going for the, you know, vodka, and he just got Ben and Jerry's. He starts spooning it out. It's the least
Starting point is 00:46:00 hard-edged thing a detective can do ever. So Paul Gleason is, Robert Forrester is some sort of hospital administrator, is that correct? And Paul Gleason's like the insurance guy. it's very confusing they have some sway over well robert forster has sway over whether or not um kate's kate is going to be taking off life support right whether or not they pull the plug and paul gleason is like trying to be like uh hey so you're probably going to pull the plug on her right i think he's like the hospital administrator that's worried about like how much money it's costing the hospital to keep kate alive essentially well i think I think Paul Gleason also might be from, like, the New York State government, because he's like, this city's going to, like, you know, go crazy over this, you know, the cops taking liberties and whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Right. I thought he was from Dimension X. It's possible. Hi, Paul Gleason, Dimension X. See, what's going on over here? There's some bullshit thing where he's, like, like, Robert Forrester's like. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll pull the plug. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:47:19 But say, I've got some family coming to town, and they're pretty big New York Knickerbocker fans. And Paul Gleason's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem. How's this sound? Center court, front row right next to Pat Riley. And I'm just like, oh, my God, are you serious right now? The catch is it's actually another dimensions Nick's game. So it's not your early 90s semi-dynasty Nix.
Starting point is 00:47:52 No, it's the Dimension X, Knicks. So one of the guys is a squid. Pat Riley's just a parakeet. It's the monsters from space jam. Are the New York Knicks in this dimension X? It's the best. So Robert Forster gets x-rayed to death, by the way, which is fantastic. It's like, I thought he was just going to let it, like, stay there for a while.
Starting point is 00:48:15 and give him a tumor eventually because like well that might happen it's like a microwave it microwaves his face he somehow better what he could get better maybe I guess so I mean his face is clearly melted off though he's going to be maniac hospital
Starting point is 00:48:34 administrator that's a boring move man he kills that paperwork it's just a dude stabbing a file cabinet to death signing a bunch of forms guy banging on his death for five hours straight. Yeah, so Robert Forster encounters Maniac Cop at one point.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Maniac Cop like gets him down on this table and straps him in and just turns on this X-ray machine. And he's found later on by a nurse or something. And his face is just gone. It's all like bubbly. It kind of looks like when that dude in Ghost of the Machine gets stuck in his microwave kitchen. Oh, wow. Yeah, you know, with all like his boils on his face and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Like that happened to Robert Forster. He's clearly dead. Oh, yeah. He's out for the count. And now the reporters that we saw in the beginning, they're called out to some, they have like one of those police scanners. Right. Yeah, yeah. And they hear about some big accident that happened in some side street somewhere.
Starting point is 00:49:36 And the sweet spot is a kid was involved. And these dudes get huge fucking hard-ons and race to their car. get their camera equipment. And then they're driving they're jerking each other off. Oh man, it's going to be so great. We get this footage of this dead kid. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:49:54 You straighten your toy. You're straighten your toy. You're going to drive off the fucking road. They get to this place. And there's just this kid sitting there. Like, you would think there would be a mob scene.
Starting point is 00:50:07 A kid has been killed. The cops and ambulance are already there, according to this thing. There's nobody there but this one kid. And he's sitting on this stoop. And he's just like, oh, yeah, my sister died. It's over there.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Go around this dark corner. That's where the carnage is. It's like in Goodfell's Robert DeNiro's like, no, go in there. To Lorraine Brockow? No, all the good coach, just keep going. Just keep going. No, it's in there. It's in there.
Starting point is 00:50:35 No, don't go away. Just that hand gesture. That is a great scene. Oh, man, it's so terrifying. Terrifying. Terrifying. That's weird. So they round the corner, and there's this ambulance, with all these dead ambulance attendants inside, I think the girl's dead too.
Starting point is 00:50:54 There's no girl. There's no victim. There's the two ambulance drivers. The second reporter, because only one had interviewed the kid. Oh, that's right, because the dude says, like, I have my camera. I'll talk to this kid. So the dude, like, interviews this kid, like, what happened, and he lays out this pretty lame story. and then yeah this other dude goes around the corner with the camera and they're all dead and maniac cop kills that guy so what maniac cop who cannot talk other than a grunt or like one word a movie we said he gets a sentence a movie i believe is what it is right i think it's three to four words tops it's not an eloquent sentence no no no very blunt he laid out a dense plan to kill these four people why is he two questions why
Starting point is 00:51:43 is he enlisting the help of a child and why is this kid cool with it? Did he enlist the help of this child? Like, the, well, he had to. Could he have killed the people and the kid's just like afraid and he's just like, stay there, stay there?
Starting point is 00:51:59 But he explains to him what happened and it's a huge lie. He's like my sister was over there, she's dead and all this stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like he lays out this whole story. And it's just a bunch of phony bologna. Maniac cop thought this through. Why does he have to be like a criminal mastermind now?
Starting point is 00:52:17 Just fucking kill people. He's a jason. And I get it. If you just want to make like a Jason ripoff, I'm not really going to get in your way because, hey, what works, works. But the key difference between maniac cop movies and Jason movies, I guess not technically this maniac cop movie necessarily, but like,
Starting point is 00:52:36 Maniac cop is patrolling the streets and he's out like in a city. So you've got all these people. at all sorts of different places that maniac cops like getting at folks. Whereas Jason it's like, oh, you know, we're at the campgrounds. Oh, you know, we're on a boat. Country mass and city mass. Very, very much so.
Starting point is 00:52:57 But so, one, maniac cop is walking all over the place, killing all these people. Which they should have just put him in the hospital. The hospital, fine. He can go hog wild. It's in one central location. You don't have anything to worry about. This movie, he's killing people. He can have no possible idea are involved in this
Starting point is 00:53:14 whole thing. Mania cop has no idea who those cameramen are yet somehow he knows not only how to bait them to come to a crime scene but he knows that there's such slees-ball journalists that if he makes up a story about a kid getting killed
Starting point is 00:53:30 they will come there. Or maybe he wanted to kill more cops and thought the the radio thing would bring more cops not necessarily these journalists but still this is a distinctly thought through plan and the man has no brain it kind of makes no yeah it kind of makes no sense but you know maybe maybe his friend the devil was helping again also something that doesn't make sense the devil is in this hospital where there have been two or three clear murders oh absolute hands down murders the thing is running normal there's no shutdown there's nothing security guard to be found no security guards they certainly don't call all the police.
Starting point is 00:54:13 What do we do? It's a regular shift. I don't understand how you can make this many mistakes in a movie. If it's the third movie of something you've made with this character. All the mistakes with the character being, what, he's psychic
Starting point is 00:54:28 now? Is it because of the voodoo resurrection? He's in tune with like some other frequency? I guess that's what we're supposed to assume, but they certainly don't give you any help to figure that out. No, none whatsoever. You're left out in the cold. You see three scenes with this voodoo, and that's it and none of them are like
Starting point is 00:54:43 you now have the power of and most people by now would have probably changed the channel and director William Lustig actually did so in real life he walked off the set making this movie and someone else had to finish it. Man
Starting point is 00:55:01 oh man what is it like when you are working on a movie and the director says the hell with this and jump ship Like you as Robert Zedar, you know, I mean, this is your movie, so you're not going anywhere. I think it's like, and it's something that must be so satisfying is you get to get up from the director's chair, take the headset and just throw it on the ground. It breaks into a hundred pieces.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I've had enough. But I'm talking more from the perspective of like the actors, the crew. Can you imagine if you're like a nothing PA, a maniac cop three, you're fucking fresh. out a UCLA film school or some bullshit and you're like ah sweet gig on maniac cop 3 being a PA this is great and William
Starting point is 00:55:51 Lustig just says hey kid hold these headphones for a second and you're like well whatever you say Mr. Lustig and the second you take the headphones from him he goes psych! You're directing this piece of shit now and just walks off the Senate. I think that's what happened I really do
Starting point is 00:56:07 and I never heard of this other director either. I've heard of William Lusting you're getting some some director's sloppy seconds on the shitty horror movie and folks this happens more than you think oh yeah people walk off shit all the time
Starting point is 00:56:23 or like Alan Smythe themselves like if you're a part of a movie where the director doesn't want credit that's embarrassing I'm looking at you Jamie Lee Curtis in what's that movie of hers virus is she in virus
Starting point is 00:56:36 she's in virus she is in virus I think that's an Alan Smythi production oh really I think so Hey, even David... It's pretty garbage, so... Well, even David Lynch has one under his belt, so everyone... Did he Alan Smythe Dune? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Oh, that's embarrassing. Did he? I'm not sure. That's a question for another day. So, Maniac Cop also, in this reign of terror, you know, at some point in this movie, he decides maybe he's getting a little tired of being Maniac Cop. Because he walks into Jackie Earl Haley's room and, just leaves a gun
Starting point is 00:57:13 on Jackie Earle's like pillow. Young cops and he's just like do what you're going to do. This guy maniac cop, may I remind you, is tied to trying to take down this police officer. Why are you letting him run this
Starting point is 00:57:31 reign of terror in this hospital? I mean he's really, he's taking because I mean it works in his favor. Surprise. This move really does work out. But there was no chance it could work out. His idea was to let him loose and that somehow
Starting point is 00:57:46 he was going to kill Paul Gleason Yes. He was going to kill another lawyer that was involved in the case. It's Jackie Earl Haley's defense attorney because she's talking to Paul Gleason about like, okay so if Jackie Earl Haley, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:03 takes this plea, we drop the suit, we need to discuss the terms of him getting like the rights to this, uh, like to his story for for a film adaptation or a TV show and all this shit and they're walking down the hallway and Paul Gleason's like yeah I know I'm fine with all of that by the way how about sucking my dick later and you're like wait what you're trying to you're trying to make a move on this woman and she's totally into it and then out of nowhere they get blown to shit and you're
Starting point is 00:58:32 like wow way to go maniac oh jackie or haley and it's him and a couple of other like like lockdown prisoner criminal hospital patients. They're like, yeah, we got this gang going now. They shoot this fucking security guard. It's ridiculous. This security guard, by the way, here's your security guard. He's sitting on a chair just watching the monitors. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:58:57 How did you miss all the crazy shit that there's a maniac cop in your hospital. Sal the security guard. There's a maniac cop. there's a cop that's on like watch duty there's there's this there's enough time to formulate a rag tag gang uprising yeah he has two criminals with him going you know going through this place and they're caught in a corner and they think maniac cop has got him but then it turns out to be robert davy oh that is so stupid he's something this is oh man it's assinine it's it's it's it's it's it's it's genuinely assinine they kill the security guard, they kill Paul Gleason and this defense attorney woman, and then they turn and they're like, what's that? And you cut to
Starting point is 00:59:44 a stretcher rolling down the hallway with like a body on it and there's a sheet over it. And you're like, yeah, oh, here comes maniac cop. Whatever. He's a participant in the paranormal, you know, fine. He got this thing rolling on his own somehow.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And all of a sudden gunfire starts erupting out of the blanket and they fucking shoot the shit out of the one dude. There's three guys, there's Jackie Earl Haley, Jackie Earl Haley's roommate, and then a third guy they somehow found and also convinced to go on this murdering. They kill this third guy, and then Robert Davy, like, sits up and he's just, like, firing this weapon. Like, what, how did you lay? What is the, what explained to me this movie? What are the logistics of him laying down on this stretcher covering himself in a sheet?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Where is he getting the momentum to roll down? down the hallway. The only thing that makes sense is if John Wu was the director who took over for William Lusty. That's the only kind of person who would allow this kind of crazy stupid stunt to happen. It would have worked if some doves were released at the same time. A dove flies out from the she. This could have been a cut from hard, from hardboiled in the huge hospital scene. This could have happened. Definitely could have. I think this is probably where Robert Davy was just like, hey there, female doctor. You want to see some cool police. work now just give me a push and then and then go hide in the bathroom yeah so there's a big shootout
Starting point is 01:01:15 he kills the fat roommate of jackie earls and then jack earl's like still on the run tracks him down to this bathroom and he's doing the old hide in the stall and like Robert davy kicks the door open and there's this old lady on the toilet and he's like oh geez sorry about that and then it turns out Jackie Earl Haley was somehow hiding behind this one? How do you hide behind someone who's sitting on a toilet? He broke in, made her stand up and then sit on him. He is literally, it's like literally she is taking a piss on his left. And she's so much bigger than him too.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I don't understand it. So he's also murdered at this point. Robert Davy shoots the shit out of Jackie Oral and that's the end of it. And that sounds chaotic and crazy. But wait on, folks, because guess who's in this movie? Maniac Cop. Oh, hey, I remember him. Welcome back to the program, Maniac Cop.
Starting point is 01:02:17 While this is all happening, Maniac Cop has kidnapped Maniac Kate and is bringing her down to whatever tunnel system leads to this, the voodoo altar. Everybody with us so far? I mean, really. So, you're right. And actually, I just kind of realized that, oh, man, again, Maniac Cop is way smarter than he has any right to be in this movie. Because that whole thing we just talked about, I'm just now realizing,
Starting point is 01:02:49 is an orchestrated distraction set up by Maniac Cop so he could kidnap Maniac Kate, bride of Maniac Cop. Maniac Cop should have been part of Ocean's Eleven. Yeah, I would have loved that. I'd love to see Maniac Cop and that little chap. and that little Chinese gymnast just stuck in a box together and like this dude like
Starting point is 01:03:10 doesn't speak any English and he's like hi and then like Maniac Cop's like Shut up or some shit they're bickering in a box like the boondock sinks. He has to convince Maniac cop to let him jump off his shoulders in order to get to the air
Starting point is 01:03:26 vent to help them both in that in that movie they refer to somebody as like oh we need an elephant's Gerald and they're like oh yeah we need a Vorhees. Look, every, every good casino heist needs a Voorhees, okay? Elliot Cool, it's like, well, I think
Starting point is 01:03:42 I know a guy. Know a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy that knows a giant, hulking, undead mess. Hello, Matt. It's Ira. Want to come back from the dead and rob a casino owned by Al Pacino?
Starting point is 01:03:59 I'll take that as a yes. It's a shuddy this fucking Elliot Gould impression this side of the equator. Say the long goodbye to that impression. It won't be returning. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Oh, man. Classic Robert Altman pun. So he kidnaps this woman. And the whole thing is here we go again. We're going to have Bride a maniac cop. He sets her on fire. Now, to be fair to Maniac
Starting point is 01:04:32 cop, it's kind of an accident it's an accidental this criminal mastermind has orchestrated all this shit and then he fucking sets his bride on fire well he does it in a unique way sure now he's trying to get the voodoo priest witch doctor guy to perform this ritual on maniacate kate bring her back i guess out of a coma into some type of maniac cop dead zone that he's existing in i feel like what they say here because she's on life support in the hospital. So essentially, Maniac Cop takes her away. And this time he decides not to carry a bunch of electronic equipment around with him,
Starting point is 01:05:13 unlike those paddles earlier. He should have done that. Just kept her heart rate going the whole way to this altar. Well, it's hard to navigate those dark tunnels when you're carrying so much luggage, I guess. But so, you know, remember before we said this voodoo priest clearly spells out to Maniac Cop like, Hey, man, just so you know, I can't bring anybody back from the dead. You know, they have to want it. Their soul can't reject it.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And Maniac Kate is such a good cop that she's like, no, I'm not going to be a part of your charade, Matt, you idiot. You know, I'm not going to come back from the dead and help you kill people. So, yeah, so basically the priest does say that, like, oh, I can't, you know, he says just that. Yeah, that's the brakes, Maniac Cop. And this is when Maniac Cop gets his main line. and he yells at him. Finish it. And then the guy's like,
Starting point is 01:06:06 hey, I can't. Or like I did. It doesn't work. And then Maniac cop just shoots this guy in the back with a shotgun. He falls over. I guess somehow the buckshot ignites something on Maniac Kate. I think there's candles all over the place also.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Or maybe oil, too, for like their, you know, Seons. Sensual massages. Sensual voodoo massages. Corpse massage. So, yeah. So this dude goes up. Maniac Kate goes, like this poor woman, you know, we haven't seen her conscious since the first 15 minutes of the movie.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Now she's just this crispy critter. And then this is where Robert Davy comes in. And by the way, I marked it, right? Because you would figure this whole thing, like in this movie, is Robert Davy being like, oh, man, all this smells pretty familiar, but there's none of that. It smells like human flesh. It's not until an hour and eight minutes into this movie does Robert Davy learn that Maniac Cop is on the loose again, aka 15 minutes until the movie ends. Like, how on earth do you write a screenplay like this where everybody is just dicking around the character from your previous movie who brought down this villain doesn't know that there's another movie happening.
Starting point is 01:07:28 It's insane. And you look at the first two movies, the NYPD is all too well aware that there's Maniac Cop out there. Oh, yeah. It's becoming kind of like a public legend sort of thing. Like people on the street are like, here, pray tell if the Maniac Cop who patrols the streets. It's like a Son of Sam thing where everybody's, the public is paranoid, all of that stuff. Everybody's staying inside. There's a great scene in that first movie where a regular, regular good cop just gets shot in the head because of the legend of Maniac Cop.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Right. Someone's like, oh, it must be the maniac cop. Right. People are just killing cops. Well, there's that great part in that first movie where Bruce Campbell's suspected of being the maniac cop because he's stepping out on his wife. So his wife is just like, oh, my husband goes out at night for hours at a time and comes back changed. He must be the maniac cop. Oh, no, he's just fucking somebody? Oh, okay. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:08:24 She follows him out there. And you actually seen that movie. he walks to like 12th Avenue he walks like just a few blocks away to this motel that he's also sleeping with some female cop man but that's a movie I almost feel like it's a deadly friend situation where William Lustig was like you know what I'm gonna make you know I've been making these like you know gaudy slasher movies these kind of gritty really gross movies I'm going to make like a Sydney Lumet like copper movie like a cop corruption like a prince of the
Starting point is 01:08:56 see you type movie right yeah something that really says something yeah something that says something uh and he turns it into you know whoever and they're like uh well i mean you're known for horror won't throw a horror in there how about some that maniac cop you want to throw some maniac cop in there sprinkle some maniac cop on this movie because if you were to take out the scenes of maniac cop doing shit you would still kind of have a movie about this guy worrying about his little sister in the hospital? I would like to posit that a more
Starting point is 01:09:30 accurate title for this movie should be Maniac Cop All for Nothing is what it should be. I mean, we get to this point and it's like oh, well, the resurrection didn't work. Oh, they're both on fire. Oh, and by the way, somehow
Starting point is 01:09:46 Maniac Cop gets set on fire at this point, because it wouldn't be a maniac cop movie without him on fire. Because, oh, I'm a monster. and I love her and he picks up her body and he's carrying this flaming corpse so now he's a flaming corpse too. And he gets in this police car and just drives off hilariously on fire. There is a chase scene in this movie now. We jump ahead a little bit here where like Robert Davy and this nurse like think, you know, oh, that's it. Thank God that's over with. And they're like in
Starting point is 01:10:21 the ambulance and uh by the way what does she see in him that's the best interruption that's ever happened on this show and a genuinely good question no it's a damn fine question and it's like maybe also even if you were into him which you're not why not have a date after after he gets off of his crazy police caper yeah like they're making out in the hospital at one point earlier Pretty hot and heavy. Like another cop comes in and he's like, oh, sorry Robert Davy. And he's like, you've got to be kidding me right now. I was about to go find the man of the boat.
Starting point is 01:11:02 There's a lot of cock blocks in this movie. A lot of cock blocks for a horror movie. And honestly, that's also how this voodoo ceremony doesn't work because maniac cop wants lady maniac cop. Can't have it. So he's just going to set everybody on fire. So they're in this ambulance. They're driving down the street and it's like, oh, wow, what a day. hey what's that and they look out the window and there is maniac cop a blaze
Starting point is 01:11:27 driving this cop car chasing after them it is ridiculous i mean it almost makes it worth because it's just a guy on fire in this car it's some it's some serious stunt where you know nowadays it would be cg yeah it would totally would be it wouldn't it wouldn't be it would be inauthentic now this is this is a real maniac cop on fire great chase seed and then robert Davy takes out his gun and shoots Maniac cop in the head like 50 times. Like he empties this entire clip on him reloads and then empties another entire clip on him. And it does nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Not a dent. He's just firing blanks. Here's a question relating to all that is happening right now. So this man, this big Hulk of a man, is on fire driving a car. driving a car in a good like you know five to six minute long chase scene how is this car not instantly catching on fire and exploding how does he get this far without the car like melting yeah you know movie law dictates that fire in a car equals a massive explosion exactly and he's just driving down the street taking all these turns like it's a real sick car chaser on
Starting point is 01:12:48 he's parallel parking whilst on fire Robert it's a little early for the electric car so let's not play that game no no there is some gasoline and I mean even an electric car there's oil in there somewhere probably some sort of flammable material Robert Davy finally cracks this case because he takes he takes this oxygen tank from the back of the ambulance and hucks it into maniac cop squad car and it doesn't do anything for a little while
Starting point is 01:13:18 Yeah, exactly. It takes so long for the fucking fire to get to it. It's probably more realistic. I mean, that's true. It's a very realistic film. Well, I thought they were going to rip off jaws, and he was going to have some line about like, oh, one bullet, you know, shoot it.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I totally thought that too. I thought they were going to jam it in his mouth. I thought he was going to unhinge his jaw. Dude, if he made a copse just chowing down on this O2 tank. And then he blows up and he roars, like some crazy. echo he roars? It's like when that Rottweiler, a man's best friend, eats the cat
Starting point is 01:13:52 and it unages his jaw to fit the cat in. I mean, we've seen a man take a whole chicken. Right before this chase scene ends, before the car blows up, well, because that's the end of the movie, by the way. Maniac cop blows up. Well, quickly, I want to mention that during this, the chase
Starting point is 01:14:12 sequence, there are scenes in which Maniac Cop has other cars on the road getting too close to his squad car where he takes his hand out and shoves them with his, he just shoves a car with his hand and guess what? It works. Oh yeah, he's throwing cars off the road like
Starting point is 01:14:28 fucking Donkey Kong. Try it. Man, that will never work. I don't care how abnormal and spiritual and other world that you are. Well, the only time they really show his, well, the using the human as ski is pretty, that shows it,
Starting point is 01:14:44 but like it's a car door off its hinges. Yeah, that's how he's steals the police car that he drives around and he rips the fucking door off. I thought this was maniac cop, not robocop. You got a vampire cop? Zombie cop. That would be great. Secret Nazi maniac cop.
Starting point is 01:15:01 So, maniac cop explodes. There's a hilarious bit where Robert Davy lights a cigarette off of maniac cop's fucking blown up arm, which is pretty great. Good for you. And they walk off. This is great. It's, you know, it's L.A., but it's supposed to be New York.
Starting point is 01:15:17 and they're in some shitty warehouse neighborhood and him and the nurse just walk off into the night time together and that's supposedly the end of the movie we'll get to the twist in the second but there is one line during this chase scene that just pulls everything together like so this nurse
Starting point is 01:15:34 or she's not a nurse excuse me the doctor Dr. Fowler there she's like totally terrified about what's going on right now she can't believe that a man on fire is chasing them and because at no point Has she been initiated to the maniac cop lore whatsoever? Because Robert Davy
Starting point is 01:15:51 only found out five minutes ago that maniac cops even in the same movie as him. He just thinks he's in some police corruption movie, but he's actually in Maniac Cop Three Badge of Silence. He has no fucking idea. They're driving in this car and this woman just yells out I hate this.
Starting point is 01:16:07 How perfect is that? I just paused it and I was like, me too, Dr. Fowler. Me too. Let's finish this movie. So we cut to the morgue, you know. Our heroes have walked off into the sunset, never to be seen again. And they wheel in Maniac Kate's charred corpse.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Or no, Maniac Cop's charred corpse next to Maniac Kate, who's already there. Yeah. And this, like, mortician or whatever, you know, this morgue attendant sits down. He's like watching TV or he's on the computer or something. Look, there's divorce paperwork. Fucking bitch ones, everything. And we zoom in on the corpse's hand And there's Maniac Cop's gloved hand
Starting point is 01:16:53 Comes out and holds this charred body And we just cut And that's credits Dahl What the fuck are you do? Are you kidding me? Come on. Well, there's room for a sequel.
Starting point is 01:17:08 It's a hot romance. I'm shocked this And that's the movie, by the way. I'm shocked There hasn't been a reboot of any kind to this movie. Honestly, I think it would be a good idea. I feel like this is a franchise with a little more life in it yet. Yeah, it's not completely, you know, run out of gas.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Why aren't you remaking this one, Michael Bay? If we can have 22 Friday the 13th movies. Exactly. And it's something that's like, I mean, I'm sure there's big fans of this franchise out here because there's fans of everything everywhere. But like, this franchise isn't as precious as something like a Friday the 13th or a Nightmare on Elm Street. There's improvements to be made. There's improvements to be made in all those movies.
Starting point is 01:17:52 But I'm just saying, like, if you were to reboot Maniac Cop and, like, you know, explain to me why Maniac Cop has these psychic powers or whatever, I wouldn't be like, how dare, you know, like, in that Friday the 13th remake, it's like, oh, we're going to show you how Jason gets around the forest so fast. That is the dumbest, his tunnel town underneath Crystal, like, just stop it. That's one of the great things about, like, these 80 slashes and stuff is there's a lot of And for some reason. And then he comes back from the dead for some reason.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And you know what? That's fine. Leave it. A little ambiguity never killed anyone. No, it didn't. Except maybe, you know, Maniac Cop. Yeah. He wasn't killed by ambiguity.
Starting point is 01:18:33 He was killed because of his values. T'was Beauty killed the Beast. And a huge explosion. The beauty of Maniac King. That I'd love it if Maniac Cop fell off the Empire State Building at the end of this movie. He got shot. down by a bunch of red barren fighter planes would anybody recommend this movie
Starting point is 01:18:51 uh i would actually i mean it's it moves along on a clip it's pretty damn crazy um yeah i mean i enjoyed myself it's certainly not a strong recommend but it's a recommend there have been a way worse movies than this
Starting point is 01:19:09 but it's still not that good and like the fact that the maniac cop one and maniac top two are just sitting right there. Like, those are the ones you need to see. Yeah. And if you feel like you need to see more after that, do three. But otherwise, I wouldn't go into it without seeing the other ones. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 01:19:27 It's a light recommend for me. It's a totally ridiculous movie. It's a completely ridiculous movie. But no, I am okay with those first two movies, actually. I think the first one's pretty cool. Then the second one's a fine sequel. First one's got old what's his name, Drunky McWhiskey Face from Holland. Halloween 3.
Starting point is 01:19:48 No. Tom Atkins is in that first Maniac cop. He is. It's pretty great. But yeah, I mean, this one is like,
Starting point is 01:19:56 if you really like the first two and you haven't quite had your belly filled with Maniac Cop movies, check out part three, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:05 There's no real reason to watch this movie because it is Maniac Cop without Maniac Cop. If you're watching these Maniac Cop movies because you love maniac cop movies,
Starting point is 01:20:15 you're going to kind of disappointed. If you're watching this movie because you're a William Lustig completest, that's fine. And that's something I wanted to point out really quickly. This dude has an impressive directorial filmography. I'll just close the app on the iPad here.
Starting point is 01:20:30 All right. So just real quick, this dude's a solid director. Check out Maniac from 1980, the original Vigilante from 83. Then Maniac Cop. Hit List is kind of a good movie. Maniac Cop 2. He also directed
Starting point is 01:20:46 that hilarious Uncle Sam, which I keep meaning to check out. Oh, yeah, I've been dying to see that. Dying to see that. By the way, Vigilante's got a lot of great on-location New York stuff. There's like Greenpoint, Brooklyn, in the dirty 80s. It looks great. So does, I think, the first maniac, the actual maniac, is also on location. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:21:09 New York. And, you know, as I mentioned on Chudmuntary, I'm a sucker for that. Well, also in that movie, Mandy. you get to see how Grotie the subways used to be. Like now, I thank the Lord for every subway I see. If a homeless man takes a shit on the subway platform, like at least it's not what maniac looked like. On that note, if you want to get a hold of us,
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