We Hate Movies - S3 Ep112: Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence
Episode Date: May 28, 2013In this week's episode, the gang takes to the streets with zombie police officer, Matt Cordell, in the final part of the classic? trilogy, Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence! How did the movie get away wi...th recycling this much footage? How is Maniac Cop selecting his victims? And how is there so little Maniac Cop in the film? Plus: Maniac Cop meets the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence stars Robert Davi, Robert Z'Dar, Caitlin Dulany and Gretchen Becker; directed by William Lustig. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies
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Hello, Amanda Joopin.
Eric Siska.
Chris Cabin.
And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the program. Thank you for tuning in.
This is the final week of Listener Request Month 3. I feel like we should have had some sort of cool, like sequel name.
Like Listener Request Month 3, The Reckoning.
Or the return of them.
Or the badge of silence.
Oh, man. So, yeah, before we get to today's topic, the call for this week was from a woman named Aaron in the Bronx.
since she had this to say.
Hi, this is Aaron from the Bronx, if you wanted stats.
Getting in my listen request, I'm under the wire,
because I really want to hear someone other than me and my girlfriends
talk about Maniac Cop 3, Badge of Silence.
We're obsessed with it.
You've referred to Maniac Cop, but I'm talking about number three,
where a maniac cop is slowly working his way through a hospital,
getting revenge, sort of not really.
The flashback sequence showing how Maniac Cop died
is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.
I would highly recommend it to anyone who's ever wondered
whether a zombie can drive while on fire.
So please watch it.
I love it.
Please enjoy.
So, all right, Aaron, for you and your girlfriends,
Maniac Cop 3, Badge of Silence,
from 1993, directed by William Lustig.
Who has directed four movies with the word maniac in them.
That's right.
Three of them being this series.
This trilogy, and then, of course,
there's the seminal maniac film,
which has nothing to do with Maniac Cop.
uh by the way check out the remake with elijah wood
yeah good movie uh not a good movie maniac cop three badge of silence let's try to stay on track
here as much as possible uh this is the third installment obviously in the maniac cop franchise
and uh eric i believe you did a full rewatch of this series yes i watched one two and three
in preparation for the culmination of listener request month that's some dedication i've seen
all of these movies. I watched the first two
ages ago. Yeah, I saw
the first one a while ago and I was like, oh,
Bruce Campbell's in. I'll do that. Okay, fine.
Sold on groovy Bruce.
Yeah, he's in the first two. He's in the second
one, too. And I stayed around for that
one, too. And Robert Davy
was in the second one as well, and he comes back for
this one. Beautiful passing of the torch
between him and Campbell as
protagonists.
Hanson, Bruce Campbell, and
stewed prune, Robert
Davey. Yeah, he's a guy who's been
angry since the
womb, huh? Well, you know, because he's like
the grizzled detective
and, you know, Bruce Campbell's the
idealistic patrolman
with... But I mean, he looks
grizzled, I suppose, but like he
also looks like he's supposed to be like
snapping his fingers every once in a while.
Yeah, he looks like he could be like a Bing
Crosby, like, ba, blah, blah, ba, ba, hey, baby,
baby, baby, mini a cop, but he's
just Italian. Well, he did
direct that movie where it was that very
thing. It was him, Chaz Palman, Terry,
and Peter Bogdanovich as like,
lounge singers.
Call the Dukes, I believe.
Oh, my God.
Count me out.
Sign me up.
That Peter Bogdanovich, man.
He's great.
He's a wild man.
So this movie starts with a little bit of a scroll.
There's a preamble.
And I was like, wait, John Larket's going to say something.
I wish.
Why would he say something?
Texas Chainsawr Massacre, man.
I was like, come on, do it.
Because it's like all like what's, Matt Cordell was a cop and he was a good cop.
Then somebody braimed him.
Blub, but, but, but, but, but he became a maniac cop.
Well, he, to be clear, he went to prison, right?
Am I getting this right?
He did.
Officer Matt Cordell went to prison because he didn't play by the rules.
He was a goddamn hero cop.
That's what he was.
Yeah, that's what he was.
He put a lot of men behind bars and then he got too close to those in power down
by City Hall.
Oh, man.
And then guess what?
You're taking the fall now because you didn't, you, you, you weren't going to turn.
I'm guessing this is about bribery at the end of the day or kickbacks or something.
It's always about kickbacks.
Yeah, I guess so they set them up.
They send him, uh, I guess to Rikers.
Yeah.
He goes to the tombs.
And they, uh, they slash his face apart in a shower.
That's what happens.
And then we get this thing in this, there's a flashback.
And then he dies.
And then he becomes a maniac.
And then there's a flashback in this movie where he runs through a prison brick wall.
Yeah, well, at some point he became Jason Voorhees in the afterlife.
That's what this, essentially that's what these movies are.
He's Jason Voorhe's dressed up as a police officer.
Which is pretty great.
It is pretty great.
It's like Jason with some authority.
Yeah.
And I mean, we're talking about maniac cop and Matt Cordell here.
But really, he's an afterthought in this movie.
And this is what I wanted to bring up. Continuing our tradition of doing horror sequels, franchises that are absent of the franchise figure.
You know, we did Halloween 3 and Michael Myers is nowhere to be found. We did Friday the 13th 5, a new beginning where it's some dude playing Jason. This movie is very much maniac cop without maniac cop. I mean, he's around.
But he's not really around.
I mean, he's doing the killing, which, don't get me wrong, I'm, you know.
That's what we're all here for.
You're giving me what I want.
Yeah.
Thank you for that.
But, like, as far as him coming back and what his motives are as a supernatural killing machine.
Right.
It doesn't really matter.
He's just killing people that the audience doesn't like.
Well, because his killing had purpose before in the other movies,
because in the first one, he's trying to get back at the police force.
for what happened to him and then the second one he gets back at the prisoners who who cut up his face
and uh in this one it's just for for some reason well he's a hired gun well he's resurrected by
in a voodoo mass right so let's get into it after the scroll which you're totally right chris
if you have a scroll in your movie someone better be saying something because i'm just watching
it might as well be an FBI warning what about Star Wars?
Well, there's not, that's the thing.
Somebody should be saying something.
You're right, Star Wars.
Somebody should be saying something like a James Earl Jones or a John Laracette,
or there's a triumphant John Williams score.
Not silence as this fucking thing rolls by.
I want a maniac cop to be scored by John Williams.
Oh, what an epic maniac cop entry that would be.
He spat on that offer.
What are you fucking talking about?
John Williams doesn't know that there's a movie called Maniac Cop 3.
There's no idea that there was ever any other movies besides Spielberg.
Just another word on these scrolls is that if you're going to talk about like the world is dying or a country is on the brink or something like that, then you want your James Earl Jones.
Oh, I was going to say, are you talking about maniac cop?
Because I missed that fucking.
That's the difference between the John Larichette scroll and the James Earl Jones scroll.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
Like personal misery and cutting up of people's.
That's Larcats department.
That's his wheelhouse.
How much you think he got paid for it?
I think there's some rumor John Lurkech got paid and weed for that movie.
I've no idea.
Which is so fucking great.
I love that.
I'd believe it, though.
I wouldn't be surprised.
And it wasn't much.
It wasn't a lot of weed and it was kind of some of that skunk weed.
Oh, it was shake.
It was all shake.
Yeah.
It was mostly seeds and sticks.
Oh, wow.
I came all the way down to this Texas recording studio for some seeds.
Thanks a lot, Toby.
I'm supposed to roll this.
really you want me to roll a seed so yeah all right so let's get into it this is this is very much the weekend at bernies two of the maniac cop franchise and this movie came out a year or two before weekend at bernies two but basically right we start after the silence we start in oh maybe that was the badge of silence the scroll oh that's what it is because it's literally nowhere else in this movie makes no sense absolutely no damn sense so we start off it's kind of
finally Matt Cordell's funeral
and we're cutting between that
which I think is actually recycled shots from the end
of the second movie
does he jump out of the well no in this movie
where he jumps out of the grave
oh well there was a second one
starts with the end footage from the first one
they're all recycled because I believe in the end of the second
one there's a there's a shot
of the coffin with his hand coming out like
it's good there's there'll probably be
a sequel these things like to set up
sequels you're not going to believe this
and all these movies
you know second and third
do so many flashbacks
that are just recycled footage
from the other films which is the
that is the laziest way to make a
fucking horror sequel I'm looking at you
silent night deadly night too
oh yeah big time but like and keep in mind
these running times are only like
80 minutes or so yeah they're really
just grasping at straws for a story
here it's just padding and also
but keeping this is also a
a Jason issue.
Why are you burying
the zombie?
Why aren't you burning the body of the
maniac cobb zombie?
Why are you bur?
I understand he was a good Christian man.
He's a hero cop.
I get it. But still, he also
went on a huge rampage and killed a bunch of people
after resurrecting twice.
Yeah, but he's human. And he deserves
a human. No, he's not human. He's dead.
He deserves a burial.
He shouldn't be buried
on American soil. God.
damn it you should flip that critter out to see like they did to osami bin laden i will be good
and god damn if he ain't sent back to russia and buried in that dirty cold russian soil look
just put him in a huge doritos bag go out to canadian waters and throw them overboard then
i'm happy just like i did to my first wife man i would attend maniac cop's funeral if that's
how he was being buried in a giant dorino bag i'd be like well
Well, this is a lifetime opportunity.
No, because he's going to come back.
He's going to want to get to the bottom of that bag.
It's going to be like that shitty, the shitty remake of Godzilla
where the Godzilla's going underwater.
Oh, Jesus.
Slowly to New York.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, Jesus.
I will just say this for our listeners out there.
Summer Blockbuster 2013.
That's all I'll say.
So this voodoo guy.
Nobody's seen him before.
He's not in the other movies.
And he just, as we learn, kind of just likes resurrecting people.
It makes not a lick of sense.
We haven't seen this guy before.
He's just standing there.
He's just making these weird.
He's stabbing a head.
There's a head of some sort of vagrant that is not the maniac cop head, which I thought it was at first.
But this dude's conducting this spell.
And we're cross-cutting back and forth between the dude doing this, this seance or whatever,
this spell casting and the funeral and so we put it together okay for whatever reason this
dude's resurrecting maniac cop like all right here we go uh and he says this big long spell
jams a knife in this other person's skull and maniac cop's eyeballs open up he burst the hand out
and this is the footage from the end of the second movie the hand bursts out and he doesn't he grabs
the badge yes and then that's it and then that's all they show but now they like they filmed and
extended more shots for that
scene of him actually now
ascending from the grave. Yeah, it takes
fucking ten minutes
of him like cutting back
between these two things and then
them just strolling the streets.
Well, it takes a while to
cast a spell. There is a lot
of maniac cop just
walking around in broad
fucking daylight in this movie. There's one shot of him
just standing in the middle of the cemetery
just standing there for no reason.
He can do whatever he wants. But he clear,
has the face of a monster.
He's New York's finest.
Get it through your head.
Look, if you see a gigantic, like,
Jason-sized mutated pig man,
you're going to do something about it.
You're not going to look and be like,
look at that monster.
Oh, you know what?
He's behind the blue line.
Look at that uniform.
His face is actually getting to that
Jason Voorhe's undead phase.
It's the same thing.
ripped that hockey mask off in part 7
he looks like a reptilian. Looks like it's about
to harden. It's so shitty.
I mean... Oh yeah, that was pretty bad. That's worse
than Mania cops. It is.
Maniac cop's been slashed up and
then he's been burned and
then he's been dead.
So it's got to look to it.
His face looks like the fucking ginger dead
man though, whatever that movie was
with Gary Busey. Is it the ginger
bread man? I thought it was
the ginger dead man. There's a horror
movie called The Ginger Dead Man, but there's also
the gingerbread man with Kenneth Broughton
Gary Oldman. No, no, no.
Film critic.
The shitty horror movie
where Gary Busey's soul...
Oh, Gary Bucie. I thought I said Gary Oldman.
I thought Gary Bucie's soul went into a cookie.
A gingerbread cookie man.
That's what I'm talking about.
Oh, but he looks like a dead man's face?
No, the... I mean, it's a shitty fucking puppet.
Oh, right, okay.
You know, because he's got to move around
and he's got a bunch of catchphrases.
It's just like that Jack Frost or Child's
Right. So it's a brown crumply face instead of a gray comply face.
Yes, exactly. That's the point of making.
And the difference between him and Jason is that with Maniac Cop, at least I can tell where the eyes and the mouth are.
Or Jason, it could be anywhere. The eyeball could be in the back of the head.
This voodoo ritual that's going on is also another opportunity for them to just stroll through all that footage from the other movies because he's like, oh, Maniac Cop, you were.
pretty good at being a maniac cop you did this and you did this all your achievements maniac cop and it's just
all the murders all the getting set on fire he gets set on fire in every movie he's just torched i think
the people behind this movie larry cohen all these guys i think they had stock in like a fire suit
company well because they're getting use out of the fire suits in all these movies especially this one
and we'll get to why a little later it looks a
surprisingly good, I'll add.
It does look good, but why do you need this many
fire suit scenes? How many times are you going to burn
this fucker? But also,
what's his name? Is it Robert Zar?
Yeah, Robert.
Zard. Zadar. The guy who plays
maniac cop, the actor.
Like, in the first one, he didn't
look too bad. Like, he kind of
looked weird, but he didn't look too bad, like, as far
as just, like, his eyeballs. But, like,
this is where he's in, like, this is about
the same time as Tango and Cash.
where he's just got that face.
God, I forgot he's in there.
He is in that movie.
I was going to say the first one is the worst because you could mostly see his face.
Yeah.
But he got like the,
the bejillion drugs face.
Oh,
is that what those faces?
And this.
Right.
I think he naturally has a really giant face.
Oh,
it's pretty big,
no matter what.
Things might have added to it over the course of time.
Sure.
Right.
You get a little older.
You've just been reprising this maniac.
cop role over the years you know yeah we all get puffier yeah it's the sands of time uh so we're
introduced to robert davy in this movie he's back from the second one he's at a firing range
uh and this is where we're you know we meet his like younger female cop buddy i guess there's
kind of like a father-daughter thing going on here he calls he refers to her as like a younger
sister type that's right yeah um and like this is by the way this is the movie yes
this is the plot of this movie so right so basically this uh this kate sullivan uh as a cop
and she goes on a call and it's jackie earl haley robbing a pharmacy and uh basically there's
like a shootout and we'll get into it now so it's basically like well yeah go ahead jack or jegger
he's robin this pharmacy and initially two cops do come to try to stop him and he just guns them
down like instantly yeah he's got a shotgun and he gets gets into the back room where all the drugs
are happening and then he starts happening those drugs it's like a real fucking like ponderosa
all you can eat buffet with these drugs yeah he's popping who knows what i mean like he's mixing
the macaroni and cheese with the chicken wings and the green oh he's got zips and jello he's like
he's taking everything this place has to offer he's uh he's he's john belushi at a buffet
I would like it if
Don't know much about history
While he's shooting up in the
He's shooting morphine into his neck
And that song's playing
He doesn't know much about biology or history
He sees a degenerate
Yeah he doesn't know much about biology
About how his heart's about to explode
He's just looking at he's like
Oh look zips, reds, blues caps, pops, uppers, downers
Low blows
Like he's going through all these things
And then, yeah, the fucking PSD resistance of his drug binge is a big old morphine injection into his neck.
And then, and then he slurps jello off a plate.
And then anyway, so Kate Sullivan is now, your goddamn hero cop is coming down to save this problem.
Right, exactly.
And she can't, he's behind bulletproof glass.
Like, they have a brief shootout.
He gets behind into the way back of the pharmacy.
Which I haven't, you know, I've been to a lot of pharmacies in my day.
I've never seen one that's behind bulletproof glass.
but I guess if it's in like a...
Old New York.
I mean, I've been to bad liquor stores where there's bulletproof class everywhere.
Or a liquor store in a bad neighborhood, I should clarify.
That's some weird shit.
You're like, hey, can I get this $7 bottle of whiskey?
And someone has to rotate it around a bulletproof turn style.
Yeah, I mean, if they have those for like...
Because they have those in like bodegas, too.
Right.
So if you're doing that to protect some, I don't know, like Parliament Slims,
it makes sense that you would also do it for the morphine.
and the Adderall and whatever the fuck else is back there.
So she's trying to get down now from the roof into this bulletproof box.
And this is a great moment because she just walks on the skylight and she falls through the glass.
It looks like it's a complete accident, which is interesting.
I don't know if she's ready for what she's about to do or what, but she just falls through this thing.
Kind of lands on Jackie Errolaley, but not really.
And, you know, there's a big standoff.
he grabs a hostage who's working there and there's a big thing she kills jack or shoots jack er hilly
excuse me shoots him he goes down and she's like talking to the hostage like it's cool you know
i'm here now you're safe blah blah blah and she's like you shot him and it's like whoa twist man
she's in it with jack year ill haley and so she draws the gun and this chick kate turns around
and blows this chick's brains out after getting a
shot herself by she also gets shot uh so then what we also have going on in this scene is we're
introduced to two hilarious tabloid journalists who just i guess i guess this is a thing freelance video
journalist that just drive around with a video camera listening to a police scanner and they like wait
for the big cases to pop up the ones that the networks will pay like juicy money for but this is
is, yeah, but
this is more of like, this
this is journalism.
This is what it fucking is. It's just a bunch
of people who hate people.
Yeah, these guys
have no regard for humanity.
It's like, whatever makes the best
fucking story. Folks at home, we're not kidding
here, because in this scene,
one of these journalists actually
pray for misfortune to befall
people so that they could get a better
scoop. Everything is
better. Like, if there's a kid in
danger like all that shit and actually robert davy very classily pushed them off his crime scene
telling them there was good action somewhere else and that crime scene was the body of that of that
head that voodoo head that was being tinkered on and it's got a smiley face painted into the ground
where the head should be i think that's a gag like on the police department's part oh it's not like a
of voodoo rights?
No, well, what he realizes is the voodoo part of it.
Well, he doesn't realize anything because he's Robert Davin.
He's a terrible detective in this movie.
But there's feathers and like chicken bones and shit in the next stuff.
There's chicken feet.
Oh, feet, you're right.
I think they might have shoved the whole chicken in this guy.
Just head first shoving a chicken down his neck?
Yeah, there's that shot of Robert David just like playing with a chicken finger.
Yeah.
We are in a world where a maniac cop comes back.
from the dead. Conceivably, you could
have a chicken down someone's
decapitated throat
throat husk. Body
crevel. Yeah, I think neck hole.
Neck hole is what you want to go. Right, right. Because people say
they shit down neck. Yeah, that's a, oh yeah, yeah. I guess
it's just a neck. Yeah. I guess you just
open up a neck. Yeah. All right, we got
opened that one. We're better detectives than Robert
Davy is, by the way. So yeah, he's at
the crime scene of this homeless guy. And the vood
guy is sitting right there playing
dumb and he's like
hey do you see what went down here
and this guy starts spouting off all this
crazy guy's shit he's like oh
I see all I see beyond
what you see I see into the heavens
and all this shit and Robert Davy's like
all right well this guy can't possibly be a suspect
because he's crazy and kind of just
leaves the crime scene
was it the guy
yeah what are you doing
he's playing it real
cool
he's so
cocky. He's like, oh, no one's ever
going to suspect this crazy homeless guy.
What is Robert Davy doing? Being the
world's worst detective in this movie. He's
fucking heinous at this job. He's got
this shitty hat, and like he always has
shitty hats in movies.
I've always noticed this about Robert Davy
I have, is that he's these shitty ass hats
just to make himself what he
thinks is cool.
Maybe directors think he would look better
like that. I think it's an
acting decision. Robert, we want you to put
this hat on. I won't
do it. I want to put this hat
on. Well, as long as you cover
it up. So he
gets the call that
Kate's been shot and he goes to
the hospital and get ready to spend
some time in this hospital, by the way, because it's
kind of most of this movie.
It's sort of like Halloween
2. It's sort of like visiting
hours. We're just
horror movie in a hospital once again,
because this hasn't been done to death.
It's really boring.
Yeah, it certainly is. You know what?
Say what you will about it.
It's convenient for the victims.
It's true.
It's convenient for maniac cop because there's just all these sitting ducks around.
But honestly, if you ever want to assault me, maybe threaten my life, potentially kill me, do it in a hospital.
I guess.
I mean, yeah, you're right.
Convenience.
I like that.
So maniac cop, meanwhile, you know, again, just strolling around in public.
He's, by the way, this movie, this is a good point to bring this up, because there is a scene where Maniac Cop walks across what is clearly the L.A. River, okay? L.A. River, famous from Greece, Terminator 2, a million other movies. He's walking under, you know, the overpass through the L.A. River. This movie is supposed to take place in New York City. I know the first one definitely is filmed on location in New York. I'm not sure.
about the second one, but I think so.
This third one, they make
no effort
to say that this is New York City
or to show that this is New York City.
They say it's New York City up and down the
fucking board. But this is just
Los Angeles. But like every scene
takes place at night, so who cares?
Exactly. But if that's the case, there's
even one shot, there's like an
exterior, it's supposed to be like the Manhattan
skyline. All you have to
do, this is 1993
everybody. All you have to do
show me an exterior that has the
World Trade Center in it. That's all
you have to do. Okay, everybody, we're in New York.
That's the end of that. Every episode
of fucking Sports Night, soundstage
in California somewhere. Oh, what's that? Opening
credits, World Trade Center? Boom, we're in New York City.
Friends, same thing.
They make no effort to get
any kind of B-roll from New York City.
How lazy is that shit?
Recycle the establishing shots from the first movie
because you've done it with everything
else. No, no, no, no, no. We only recycle the gore.
Everything else, we got to whip up from scratch.
Just borrow it from somebody else. Buy somebody else's B-roll.
Yeah, it doesn't have to be stuff you buy. People sell B-roll all the time. That's why it's
B-roll. Just fucking go out there and get it.
So this is where this, this movie is frustrating. I'm sorry.
Take out the trash while you're doing it.
And this is where this movie now hears the twist.
they're in the hospital
and all the television radios are on
and it turns out that Jackie Earl Haley
after doing all these fucking drugs
killing two police officers
getting shot three times
in the chest
he is
he survived A
and is B now suing
the department
because of
What? Because of, I believe it's some sort of excessive force thing.
She's also using like a semi-automatic weapon that is not police issue whatsoever.
That's, I think, the bigger thing.
It's a great scene with a kind of favorite character actor of mine, Grand L. Bush.
He's been in a million things, including the first two lethal weapons, the first diehard and demolition man.
Well, he's with Robert Davy in Diehard.
Yes, that's right.
Oh, that's so weird.
The FBI agent in Die Hard.
Yes.
So Grandel Bush in this movie meets Robert Davy for some Chinese food.
And he's sort of like in the upper brass of the police department.
And he's just like telling him how this chick's just fucked.
You know, and he's like, you know, she had this gun.
It's not standard issue.
And there's a great line where he's like, you know, she knows that.
You know that?
scumbag knows that
it's fucking crudy just refers to
Jackie Earl Haley as
scumbag
it's so fantastic
at this point the news
article the news has played the footage
of uh that these
the scumbag
uh journalists have taken
yeah these other scumbags they've like edited it
to shit or like didn't get the good vantage
point and it looks like that she's just
gunning down the hostage
and cold blood for who cares yeah it's
clearly edited and I think it's Ted
Ramey is the newscaster.
Ted Ramey is the news reporter.
Yeah, but you're right, Eric. So that's the thing is these news camera guys, these news crew dudes,
they do make mention of editing the footage to make it look a little more sensational.
You know, get those, get those dollar, dollar bills, y'all.
Yeah, you got to.
You have to.
You got to keep working that fucking money, man.
You really got to.
But so that's why she's kind of, her career's going up in smoke now because everybody thinks she just gunned down.
this innocent chick
and Jackie O'Hilley
without being provoked.
Ted Ramey has my favorite line in this
in that he refers to the
incident as a black
rainbow of terror.
That's right.
Way too
drum. What are you fucking Fox News?
Well, those do,
you know, New York City, those will pop
up every once in a while. Black rainbows of
terror? Yes.
I'm standing
outside LaRue's pharmacy at
125th Street in Lexington
during an event which can only be
described as a black rainbow of terror.
I guess Matt Cordell,
the maniac cop, is maybe drawn
to her because
she was a
hero cop that's being set up
the river just like he was.
Yes, you're exactly right. So while
after maniac cop hilariously walks
across the L.A. River, he makes his way
to the church where the
voodoo guy is hanging out. And
the voodoo guys, like, you're probably wondering why I called you here, Maniac Cop.
Truth is, I don't really know, because this is a shitty movie.
Your guess is good as mine.
Yeah.
Like, he explains to Maniac Cop, like, I can't bring just anybody back from the dead.
Your soul has to be willing to become a zombie.
Keep that in mind for later.
And so, he, like, Maniac Cop's got this baton where, like, he can pull the handle off and there's a
knife there.
And he's like, oh, you want to kill me, Maniac Cop?
that's cool, but I bet
you want to hang around and see what cool killing missions
I can put you on. So then the radio
is on and this story comes over
the radio about what happened to her.
So Maniac Cop gets pissed off
and he set out to
and this is Maniac Cop's mission
in this movie
to get
revenge on all the people that he
believes helped set up
this police officer.
Because yeah, it's just, he is having
some crazy PTSD flashbacks
right now. This is exactly what
happened to him. He tried to fight on the side
for good and he got fucked over by the establishment.
It's like if Jason Roy, he saw some other
kid be left to drown and was
just like, hey, come on.
But it's not like he even like, it's
like he feels who's involved.
Like he's like communicating
with some other side.
Yeah, you're right. He's been to the other side.
I suppose so. Well, you're right though
because there's no way maniac cop can
know the people involved
in this case. The devil's help.
it's probably the devil you're right it's usually him um and there's also this really weird
and like highly sexualized uh like it's like a general hospital thing like they're all like the um
one of the surgeons who's working on kate yes uh starts up a kind of a thing with robert davy or
davy i always said davy i i don't know what it is whatever you can you
guys keep saying it your way i'll say it my way and maybe he'll write us a letter one of us will
be ignorant at the end of the day um probably three of us and uh but there's also this
he's my favorite character in the movies there's this other doctor oh this guy's the biggest
douche bag and he's uh he's like trying to hit on everybody uh robert davy comes up to him and
is like so how how's kate doing how's he's like uh she's uh she's done she's out of here
and then he says this
Stick her in a rock garden
Stick her in a rock garden
Are you serious
How about some bedside man?
Or you're a fucking physician
He'd be fired immediately
I couldn't believe this
Out of all the ridiculous things
That I've already seen in this movie
This was the most shocking
I was like I can't believe a doctor's acting like this
And you know rock gardens aren't zoned
To store corpses
That needs to be in a proper grave
Six feet deep
I mean a body is like
Like, how many rocks?
Like, at least two dozen.
Oh, that's how Captain Kirk was buried.
That's actually a pretty good death.
Well, you know, rock garden, he means cemetery, right?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, because...
You never heard someone call a cemetery a rock garden or a rock farm?
Not in my life.
Really?
Yeah, that's what he's talking.
He's saying, you put her in the ground.
Does he...
Wait, rocks grow out of cemeteries?
Yes.
And that's what tombstones are?
Yeah, you didn't know that.
That's how it's going to blossom into a boulder.
I planted a bunch of tombstone scenes this week.
But that is the expression, rock garden cemetery.
He's saying, just cut the cord and barrier because she's brain dead.
Because it sounded so weird to me when I heard it.
I was just like a rock garden.
I can't believe you never heard that turn of phrase before.
You just need a pile of pebbles?
I thought it was like a garden in Japan or maybe New Mexico.
I would like to see someone else finally.
be buried like Captain Kirk or
Curley in fucking city slickers.
They just
pile a bunch of rocks on Jack Palance
and that's the end of them. Both are American
heroes.
You're absolutely right. Never forget.
The woman who's been
shot this Kate character
who's in this coma,
we see like a
flashback or no, it's a dream
sequence that she has.
This is just out of nowhere. Like this character's in a
coma. She's not a character in this movie. Why
do we have to see her dreams but it's basically like she walks in and something like out of the i will do
anything for love music video all this like shitty blue lighting and like white curtains are
flapping everywhere kind of november rain it's yeah it's yeah it's november rain situation
and she's like walking down this aisle and there's only cops in this church and you're like
all right that's weird and she gets to the altar and she's about to marry maniac cop it's a ghost wedding it's
amazing. It's so ridiculous. She looks all pale and weird and there's maniac cop there at the
altar. Why is she being, why is her soul being tethered to maniac cop in this ghost dream though?
Well, also because, and we'll get to this later, she is bride of maniac cop. She is bride of
maniac cop to a degree, although it ain't so successful. Well, no. As we'll learn. It's also, it's not
consensual really it's just an arranged marriage by the devil i guess and also somebody at some
point says she has the nickname of maniac kate yes because and that's what's weird too is they're
like oh this cop's hard on crime much like that lunatic maniac cop we all remember she's not
taking kickbacks and eating hot dogs all day like me yeah that's a maniac she likes to arrest people
for a living. What a crazy
person.
But that's something like
I need to see. Like if you're
going to do that, if you're going to like make somebody is like
a really like a tough ass cop
like other than the pharmacy
scene. That's them trying to show you
that I guess. But I mean even that she's just
kind of a other than
the gun. She's just kind of doing what
a good cop would do. Maniac
Kate, I need to see some like
some kind of questionable shit's going on.
No, no, no. That's because that's the thing is
it's so corrupt that, you know, doing bad things is, oh, that's just a normal cop.
It's Joey.
And then being a good cop is just like, get out of here, you nut.
So this is a nickname that's given to her by other corrupt cops.
Yeah, because the whole force is tainted.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, that actually makes sense.
Yeah, I can get down on that.
So what's great is, so maniac cop gets to this hospital.
and he's standing outside
just looking up at this thing like
all right I'm about to take on this whole hospital
and I don't know if he's like a homeless guy
or what this dude's deal is like he's just like a
just an asshole on the street
yeah he is just he's just an asshole
and he comes up to maniac cop like from behind
and he's like hey I hear this is the hospital
where they're keeping that maniac Kate
if you ask me she finally got what she deserved
all these pigs around here blah blah
and he goes on to say like oh ain't ain't the wild west
you bunch of funny cowboys
So hilariously
This is the best death in this movie
Maniac cop picks this dude up by one hand
And chucks him
And then draws his firearm
And fucking blows this dude away in midair
He plays skeep with a person
Yeah
It's incredible
It's like the old west
You throw a can up and you shoot it
This is my problem with the premise
Of what Maniac cop is though
Like Maniac Cops got a couple
Of different killing methods here and there
but his favorite method of killing is his trusty revolver.
Now, I get this as supposed to be New York City.
Like, this franchise is New York City from like the late 80s into the early 90s.
And, you know, it was kind of a bad town, whatever.
You can't tell me that outside a hospital, this dude can let off like six rounds into this guy's chest,
and no one's coming outside to take a look at what's going on?
Somebody's poking their head out the window
Someone is going to look out and be like
I just heard six shots rattle off
Into the night
What is going on outside?
Well, you know,
they're an old New York people
Just didn't care too much
You remember that old
Fable at the start of the Watchman
By Alan Moore
About that girl
That gets murdered and no one cares
Yeah, that's like
That's like this maniac Kate
It's all the same
well this isn't like new york city with like fucking bill the butcher's walking around we have laws
someone's gonna give a shit robert davy maybe but he wasn't he wasn't around so the first uh like
instance of uh in hospital murdering is great it's this dickhead surgeon again and we meet back up
with this dude he's like going down on a nurse in the doctor's break room oh he's looking for the man in the
boat.
Yeah, well, he's found it and
took sale.
And then
Maniac cop just interrupts him.
Worst cock block, just bangs on the
door. Yeah, Maniac cop would have made
a terrible college roommate.
The worst wingman.
It's really stupid, too.
Like, they cut to this woman, and her head's
cocked back, and she's in ecstasy.
And then, like, there's the pounding on the door,
and she ignores it.
And then, like, this dude just stands up and you're like, oh, that's what's going on.
Thanks, Maniac Cop 3 badge of silence.
So the dude puts up, like, all his clothes on like, what the fuck's going on around here?
And he just opens this door.
And this is pretty awesome.
Maniac cop's got the defibrillator paddles.
And he's just hitting him with it.
He's panelling him to death.
And it's so great because he's dragging the cart behind him.
Or, like, the box he's trying to care.
Like, listen, killing him.
someone with defibrillator paddles
is not a really great way to kill someone.
Can you see him dragging this thing around?
He's chasing the guy down the hallway.
It's impractical. And then also, they go up
to the roof and he's still dragging that
machinery. Exactly. He's carrying
this box with it. And the guy
ends up on this like
metal grate and he
like, you know, a maniac cop like
electrocutes the grate and to finally
finish him. Yes. And the dude
he goes off the roof. Yes.
No, he panels him to the face.
Oh, I guess he falls forward and then...
Well, he dies.
He gets hurt really bad.
Let's just say he gets hurt really bad.
Then they just panel him to the face.
He's like his brain electrocutes.
So this other doctor, the doctor that Robert Davy's like got a crush on,
why is she walking around in the hospital basement?
I don't remember how she gets to this point.
But she runs into a fella that looks exactly like Bob Marley, which is hilarious.
Well, she sees Maniac Cop finishing off.
Meyerson, uh, the pervert
shitty doctor, yeah.
Uh, and she's like, she goes to follow him.
And then, yeah, just a, his mom marley look like is just down there.
I think he's supposed to be like a janitor or something.
Yes, he is supposed to be a janitor.
He's actually been in a lot of movies.
Oh, really?
For, and the only one I can think of right now is only the strong.
What's that?
It's a movie about kids doing capo, Brazilian capoeita in Miami.
Nice.
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
stay tuned.
Oh, nice.
That's perfect.
Fodder, excellent.
Yeah, so she runs into this
dude, and this guy, like, knows her
by name, like, he's just
like, oh, Dr. Fowler, what are you doing
down here? I'm like, this janitor doesn't know
this doctor's name. And, you know,
she's like, oh, I was just following
somebody, and he's like, these tunnels,
all these pipes around here, it's pretty
dangerous, get out of here. But
Maniac Cop knows where he's going, and
somehow, and this is clearly
never explained. This
basement of this hospital
somehow leads the tunnels
go around and he's kind of in the
sewer at some point and he gets back
to the church as his like
home base. It's actually, this is a lot
like diehard too.
Maniac cops set up in this abandoned
church not too far away
from the hospital or airport
where he's supposed to be raining
all this terror. Interesting.
It's also a lot like the
ninja turtles.
Man, I would love
to see Ninja Turtles having to go up against
Maniac cop. They don't
understand that like a cop is capable
of being bad. So they're having
trouble fighting him. They just can't bring themselves
to do it. It's the same era
of New York too. It is.
Hey, you want some pizza? Snaps their neck.
Man,
I know it'll be a tragedy for
every child on Earth, but if you just saw
a Ninja Turtle get fucking murdered.
Like a maniac cop, just a swift
neck break. He gangs
Donatello through the head.
And then Shredder can be like, finally, thanks to Maniac Cop, I can have my turtle soup.
You've done well, Maniac Cop.
Now go hang, have a cigarette with Bebop and Rock Steady.
The bus to Dimension X leaves in 45 minutes.
You're going to want to, no, if you're getting off at the first stop at Dimension X,
you're going to want to be in the front of the Technodrome for where the doors open.
They will not open in the back.
Maniac cop's just like sending pieces of Leonardo to splinter
What a tragic end for the turtles
Michael Bay if you're listening
So out of nowhere Paul Gleason and Robert Forster
Just waltz into this movie
For what?
Because Maniac cop has to have people to kill
And I guess
I guess William Lustig
was like, hey character
actors I've known from the 70s and 80s
come being this shitty sequel
of mine. But I feel like you're
backloading your movie. Like Robert
David beats
out Robert Forrester and fucking
Paul Gleason? No way.
No way. Maybe in
1993. I don't know, man.
Because like what? Well, I guess because he had just
been, isn't this right when he does the
Bond villain? Who?
David Davy.
Oh, which one is that?
Licensed to kill?
No.
I'll have to check in with the internet on that.
But I guess the only reason why is because Robert Davy's got the, he's grandfathered in from that second movie.
Yeah, I suppose that.
Robert Forster and Paul Gleason aren't in the other movies.
Yeah.
Licensed to Kill, by the way, is 89.
So he'd been in that already.
But also there's a great line where, um, uh, so after my.
the pervert doctor gets killed
Robert Davy
and the doctor, the female doctor
are upstairs and they're talking
and she's like, how do you get through it?
Like when you have a bad day, like,
I don't know how to deal with this. How do you get through it?
And he says the way he gets through it
is with a pint of ice cream
and whipped cream.
Robert Dobby, what are you, a Kathy
cartoon?
I just love, I would love...
You got the best metabolism in the world.
I would just love that.
scene, like a lethal weapon-esque scene where he comes home, turns on the blues music, he
lights a cigarette, throws his jacket down, and then, like, you think he's going for the, you
know, vodka, and he just got Ben and Jerry's. He starts spooning it out. It's the least
hard-edged thing a detective can do ever. So Paul Gleason is, Robert Forrester is some sort
of hospital administrator, is that correct? And Paul Gleason's like the insurance guy.
it's very confusing they have some sway over well robert forster has sway over whether or not
um kate's kate is going to be taking off life support right whether or not they pull the plug and
paul gleason is like trying to be like uh hey so you're probably going to pull the plug on her right
i think he's like the hospital administrator that's worried about like how much money it's costing
the hospital to keep kate alive essentially well i think
I think Paul Gleason also might be from, like, the New York State government, because he's like, this city's going to, like, you know, go crazy over this, you know, the cops taking liberties and whatever.
Right.
I thought he was from Dimension X.
It's possible.
Hi, Paul Gleason, Dimension X.
See, what's going on over here?
There's some bullshit thing where he's, like, like, Robert Forrester's like.
Like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll pull the plug.
Don't worry about it.
But say, I've got some family coming to town, and they're pretty big New York Knickerbocker fans.
And Paul Gleason's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
How's this sound?
Center court, front row right next to Pat Riley.
And I'm just like, oh, my God, are you serious right now?
The catch is it's actually another dimensions Nick's game.
So it's not your early 90s
semi-dynasty Nix.
No, it's the Dimension X, Knicks.
So one of the guys is a squid.
Pat Riley's just a parakeet.
It's the monsters from space jam.
Are the New York Knicks in this dimension X?
It's the best.
So Robert Forster gets x-rayed to death, by the way, which is fantastic.
It's like, I thought he was just going to let it, like, stay there for a while.
and give him a tumor eventually because like
well that might happen it's like a microwave
it microwaves his face he
somehow better
what he could get better maybe
I guess so I mean his face is
clearly melted off though
he's going to be maniac hospital
administrator
that's a boring move
man he kills that paperwork
it's just a dude stabbing a file cabinet
to death signing a bunch of forms
guy banging on his death
for five hours straight.
Yeah, so Robert Forster encounters Maniac Cop at one point.
Maniac Cop like gets him down on this table and straps him in and just turns on this
X-ray machine.
And he's found later on by a nurse or something.
And his face is just gone.
It's all like bubbly.
It kind of looks like when that dude in Ghost of the Machine gets stuck in his microwave kitchen.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, you know, with all like his boils on his face and whatnot.
Like that happened to Robert Forster.
He's clearly dead.
Oh, yeah.
He's out for the count.
And now the reporters that we saw in the beginning, they're called out to some, they have like one of those police scanners.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
And they hear about some big accident that happened in some side street somewhere.
And the sweet spot is a kid was involved.
And these dudes get huge fucking hard-ons and race to their car.
get their camera equipment.
And then they're driving
they're jerking each other off.
Oh man, it's going to be so great.
We get this footage of this dead kid.
Oh, shit.
You straighten your toy.
You're straighten your toy.
You're going to drive off the fucking road.
They get to this place.
And there's just this kid
sitting there.
Like, you would think there would be a
mob scene.
A kid has been killed.
The cops and ambulance are already
there, according to this thing.
There's nobody there
but this one kid.
And he's sitting on this stoop.
And he's just like, oh, yeah, my sister died.
It's over there.
Go around this dark corner.
That's where the carnage is.
It's like in Goodfell's Robert DeNiro's like, no, go in there.
To Lorraine Brockow?
No, all the good coach, just keep going.
Just keep going.
No, it's in there.
It's in there.
No, don't go away.
Just that hand gesture.
That is a great scene.
Oh, man, it's so terrifying.
Terrifying.
Terrifying.
That's weird.
So they round the corner, and there's this ambulance, with all these dead ambulance attendants inside, I think the girl's dead too.
There's no girl.
There's no victim.
There's the two ambulance drivers.
The second reporter, because only one had interviewed the kid.
Oh, that's right, because the dude says, like, I have my camera.
I'll talk to this kid.
So the dude, like, interviews this kid, like, what happened, and he lays out this pretty lame story.
and then yeah this other dude goes around the corner with the camera and they're all dead and maniac cop kills that guy so what maniac cop who cannot talk other than a grunt or like one word a movie we said he gets a sentence a movie i believe is what it is right i think it's three to four words tops it's not an eloquent sentence no no no very blunt he laid out a dense plan to kill these four people why is he two questions why
is he enlisting the help of a child
and why is this kid
cool with it? Did he
enlist the help of this child? Like,
the, well, he had to.
Could he have killed the people and the kid's just
like afraid and he's just like,
stay there, stay there?
But he explains to him what happened and it's
a huge lie. He's like my sister was over there,
she's dead and all this stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like he lays out this whole story.
And it's just a bunch of phony bologna.
Maniac cop thought this through.
Why does he have to be like a criminal mastermind now?
Just fucking kill people.
He's a jason.
And I get it.
If you just want to make like a Jason ripoff,
I'm not really going to get in your way because, hey, what works, works.
But the key difference between maniac cop movies and Jason movies,
I guess not technically this maniac cop movie necessarily,
but like,
Maniac cop is patrolling the streets and he's out like in a city.
So you've got all these people.
at all sorts of different places that maniac cops
like getting at folks. Whereas Jason
it's like, oh, you know, we're at the
campgrounds. Oh, you know, we're on a boat.
Country mass and city mass.
Very, very much so.
But so, one, maniac cop
is walking all over the place, killing all these people.
Which they should have just put him in the hospital. The hospital,
fine. He can go hog wild.
It's in one central location. You don't have anything
to worry about. This movie, he's killing
people. He can have no possible
idea are involved in this
whole thing. Mania cop has no
idea who those cameramen are
yet somehow he knows not
only how to bait
them to come to a crime scene
but he knows that there's such slees-ball
journalists that if he makes up
a story about a kid getting killed
they will come there. Or maybe
he wanted to kill more
cops and thought
the the radio
thing would bring more cops not necessarily
these journalists but
still this is a distinctly thought through plan and the man has no brain it kind of makes no yeah it kind of makes no sense but you know maybe maybe his friend the devil was helping again also something that doesn't make sense the devil is in this hospital where there have been two or three clear murders oh absolute hands down murders the thing is running normal there's no shutdown there's nothing security guard to be found no security guards they certainly don't call
all the police.
What do we do?
It's a regular shift.
I don't understand how you can make
this many mistakes in a movie.
If it's the third movie
of something you've made with this character.
All the mistakes with the
character being, what, he's psychic
now? Is it because of the voodoo
resurrection? He's in tune
with like some other frequency?
I guess that's what we're supposed to assume, but they
certainly don't give you any help to figure that
out. No, none whatsoever. You're left out
in the cold. You see three scenes with this voodoo,
and that's it and none of them are like
you now have the power of
and most people by now
would have probably changed the channel
and
director William Lustig actually
did so in real life he walked off the set
making this movie and someone else
had to finish it. Man
oh man
what is it like when you are working
on a movie
and the director says
the hell with this and jump ship
Like you as Robert Zedar, you know, I mean, this is your movie, so you're not going anywhere.
I think it's like, and it's something that must be so satisfying is you get to get up from the director's chair, take the headset and just throw it on the ground.
It breaks into a hundred pieces.
I've had enough.
But I'm talking more from the perspective of like the actors, the crew.
Can you imagine if you're like a nothing PA, a maniac cop three, you're fucking fresh.
out a UCLA film school
or some bullshit and you're like
ah sweet gig on
maniac cop 3 being a PA
this is great and William
Lustig just says hey kid hold
these headphones for a second and you're
like well whatever you say Mr. Lustig
and the second you take the headphones from him
he goes psych! You're directing
this piece of shit now and just walks
off the Senate. I think that's what happened
I really do
and I never heard of this other director
either. I've heard of William Lusting
you're getting some
some director's sloppy seconds
on the shitty horror movie
and folks this happens
more than you think
oh yeah people walk off shit all the time
or like Alan Smythe themselves
like if you're a part of a movie
where the director doesn't want credit
that's embarrassing
I'm looking at you
Jamie Lee Curtis in
what's that movie of hers
virus is she in virus
she's in virus she is in virus
I think that's an Alan Smythi production
oh really I think so
Hey, even David...
It's pretty garbage, so...
Well, even David Lynch has one under his belt, so everyone...
Did he Alan Smythe Dune?
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, that's embarrassing.
Did he?
I'm not sure.
That's a question for another day.
So, Maniac Cop also, in this reign of terror, you know, at some point in this movie, he decides
maybe he's getting a little tired of being Maniac Cop.
Because he walks into Jackie Earl Haley's room and,
just leaves a gun
on Jackie Earle's
like pillow. Young cops and he's just like
do what you're going to do.
This guy
maniac cop, may I remind you,
is tied to trying to
take down this police officer.
Why are you letting him run this
reign of terror in this hospital?
I mean he's really, he's taking because
I mean it works in his favor.
Surprise. This move really
does work out. But there was no
chance it could work out.
His idea was to let him
loose and that somehow
he was going to kill Paul Gleason
Yes. He was going to kill
another lawyer that was involved
in the case. It's Jackie Earl Haley's
defense attorney because
she's talking to Paul Gleason
about like, okay so
if Jackie Earl Haley, you know,
takes this plea, we drop the suit,
we need to discuss the terms of
him getting like the rights
to this, uh, like to his
story for for a film adaptation or a TV show and all this shit and they're walking down the
hallway and Paul Gleason's like yeah I know I'm fine with all of that by the way how about
sucking my dick later and you're like wait what you're trying to you're trying to make a move on
this woman and she's totally into it and then out of nowhere they get blown to shit and you're
like wow way to go maniac oh jackie or haley and it's him and a couple of other like
like lockdown prisoner criminal hospital patients.
They're like, yeah, we got this gang going now.
They shoot this fucking security guard.
It's ridiculous.
This security guard, by the way, here's your security guard.
He's sitting on a chair just watching the monitors.
What are you doing?
How did you miss all the crazy shit that there's a maniac cop in your hospital.
Sal the security guard.
There's a maniac cop.
there's a cop that's on like watch duty there's there's this there's enough time to formulate a rag tag gang uprising yeah he has two criminals with him going you know going through this place and they're caught in a corner and they think maniac cop has got him but then it turns out to be robert davy oh that is so stupid he's something this is oh man it's assinine it's it's it's it's it's it's it's genuinely assinine they kill the security
guard, they kill Paul Gleason and this defense
attorney woman, and then
they turn and they're like, what's
that? And you cut to
a stretcher
rolling down the hallway with like
a body on it and there's a sheet over
it. And you're like, yeah, oh, here comes
maniac cop. Whatever. He's
a participant in the
paranormal, you know, fine.
He got this thing rolling on his own somehow.
And all of a sudden gunfire starts
erupting out of the blanket and they fucking
shoot the shit out of the one dude.
There's three guys, there's Jackie Earl Haley, Jackie Earl Haley's roommate, and then a third guy they somehow found and also convinced to go on this murdering.
They kill this third guy, and then Robert Davy, like, sits up and he's just, like, firing this weapon.
Like, what, how did you lay?
What is the, what explained to me this movie?
What are the logistics of him laying down on this stretcher covering himself in a sheet?
Where is he getting the momentum to roll down?
down the hallway. The only thing that makes sense is if John Wu was the director who took over
for William Lusty. That's the only kind of person who would allow this kind of crazy stupid stunt
to happen. It would have worked if some doves were released at the same time. A dove flies out
from the she. This could have been a cut from hard, from hardboiled in the huge hospital scene.
This could have happened. Definitely could have. I think this is probably where Robert Davy was just
like, hey there, female doctor. You want to see some cool police.
work now just give me a push and then and then go hide in the bathroom yeah so there's a big shootout
he kills the fat roommate of jackie earls and then jack earl's like still on the run tracks him down
to this bathroom and he's doing the old hide in the stall and like Robert davy kicks the door open
and there's this old lady on the toilet and he's like oh geez sorry about that and then it turns out
Jackie Earl Haley was somehow hiding behind this one?
How do you hide behind someone who's sitting on a toilet?
He broke in, made her stand up and then sit on him.
He is literally, it's like literally she is taking a piss on his left.
And she's so much bigger than him too.
I don't understand it.
So he's also murdered at this point.
Robert Davy shoots the shit out of Jackie Oral and that's the end of it.
And that sounds chaotic and crazy.
But wait on, folks, because guess who's in this movie?
Maniac Cop.
Oh, hey, I remember him.
Welcome back to the program, Maniac Cop.
While this is all happening, Maniac Cop has kidnapped Maniac Kate and is bringing her down to whatever tunnel system leads to this, the voodoo altar.
Everybody with us so far?
I mean, really.
So, you're right.
And actually, I just kind of realized that, oh, man, again,
Maniac Cop is way smarter than he has any right to be in this movie.
Because that whole thing we just talked about,
I'm just now realizing,
is an orchestrated distraction set up by Maniac Cop
so he could kidnap Maniac Kate, bride of Maniac Cop.
Maniac Cop should have been part of Ocean's Eleven.
Yeah, I would have loved that.
I'd love to see Maniac Cop and that little chap.
and that little Chinese gymnast
just stuck in a box together
and like this dude like
doesn't speak any English and he's like
hi and then like Maniac Cop's like
Shut up
or some shit they're bickering in a box
like the boondock sinks. He has to convince
Maniac cop to let him jump
off his shoulders
in order to get to the air
vent to help them both
in that in that movie they
refer to somebody as like oh we need
an elephant's Gerald and they're like oh yeah we need a
Vorhees.
Look, every, every good casino
heist needs a Voorhees, okay?
Elliot Cool, it's like, well, I think
I know a guy.
Know a guy that knows
a guy that knows a guy that knows
a giant, hulking, undead
mess. Hello, Matt.
It's Ira.
Want to come back from the dead and rob
a casino owned by Al Pacino?
I'll take that as a yes.
It's a shuddy
this fucking Elliot Gould impression
this side of the equator.
Say the long goodbye
to that impression.
It won't be returning.
Beautiful.
Oh, man.
Classic Robert Altman pun.
So he kidnaps this woman.
And the whole thing is
here we go again.
We're going to have Bride a maniac cop.
He sets her on fire.
Now, to be fair to Maniac
cop, it's kind of an
accident it's an accidental this criminal mastermind has orchestrated all this shit and then
he fucking sets his bride on fire well he does it in a unique way sure now he's trying to get
the voodoo priest witch doctor guy to perform this ritual on maniacate kate bring her back i guess out
of a coma into some type of maniac cop dead zone that he's existing in i feel like what they say here
because she's on life support in the hospital.
So essentially, Maniac Cop takes her away.
And this time he decides not to carry a bunch of electronic equipment around with him,
unlike those paddles earlier.
He should have done that.
Just kept her heart rate going the whole way to this altar.
Well, it's hard to navigate those dark tunnels when you're carrying so much luggage, I guess.
But so, you know, remember before we said this voodoo priest clearly spells out to Maniac Cop like,
Hey, man, just so you know, I can't bring anybody back from the dead.
You know, they have to want it.
Their soul can't reject it.
And Maniac Kate is such a good cop that she's like, no, I'm not going to be a part of your charade, Matt, you idiot.
You know, I'm not going to come back from the dead and help you kill people.
So, yeah, so basically the priest does say that, like, oh, I can't, you know, he says just that.
Yeah, that's the brakes, Maniac Cop.
And this is when Maniac Cop gets his main line.
and he yells at him.
Finish it.
And then the guy's like,
hey,
I can't.
Or like I did.
It doesn't work.
And then Maniac cop just shoots this guy in the back with a shotgun.
He falls over.
I guess somehow the buckshot ignites something on Maniac Kate.
I think there's candles all over the place also.
Or maybe oil, too, for like their, you know,
Seons.
Sensual massages.
Sensual voodoo massages.
Corpse massage.
So, yeah.
So this dude goes up.
Maniac Kate goes, like this poor woman, you know, we haven't seen her conscious since the first 15 minutes of the movie.
Now she's just this crispy critter.
And then this is where Robert Davy comes in.
And by the way, I marked it, right?
Because you would figure this whole thing, like in this movie, is Robert Davy being like,
oh, man, all this smells pretty familiar, but there's none of that.
It smells like human flesh.
It's not until an hour and eight minutes into this movie does Robert Davy learn that Maniac Cop is on the loose again, aka 15 minutes until the movie ends.
Like, how on earth do you write a screenplay like this where everybody is just dicking around the character from your previous movie who brought down this villain doesn't know that there's another movie happening.
It's insane.
And you look at the first two movies, the NYPD is all too well aware that there's Maniac Cop out there.
Oh, yeah.
It's becoming kind of like a public legend sort of thing.
Like people on the street are like, here, pray tell if the Maniac Cop who patrols the streets.
It's like a Son of Sam thing where everybody's, the public is paranoid, all of that stuff.
Everybody's staying inside.
There's a great scene in that first movie where a regular, regular good cop just gets shot in the head because of the legend of Maniac Cop.
Right. Someone's like, oh, it must be the maniac cop.
Right. People are just killing cops.
Well, there's that great part in that first movie where Bruce Campbell's suspected of being the maniac cop because he's stepping out on his wife.
So his wife is just like, oh, my husband goes out at night for hours at a time and comes back changed.
He must be the maniac cop.
Oh, no, he's just fucking somebody?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's good.
She follows him out there.
And you actually seen that movie.
he walks to like 12th Avenue he walks like just a few blocks away to this motel
that he's also sleeping with some female cop man but that's a movie
I almost feel like it's a deadly friend situation
where William Lustig was like you know what I'm gonna make you know I've been making
these like you know gaudy slasher movies these kind of gritty really gross movies
I'm going to make like a Sydney Lumet like copper movie like a cop corruption like a prince of the
see you type movie right yeah something that really says something yeah something that says
something uh and he turns it into you know whoever and they're like uh well i mean you're known
for horror won't throw a horror in there how about some that maniac cop you want to throw some maniac cop
in there sprinkle some maniac cop on this movie because if you were to take out the scenes of
maniac cop doing shit you would still kind of have a movie about this guy worrying about his little
sister in the
hospital?
I would like to posit that a more
accurate title for this movie should
be Maniac Cop
All for Nothing
is what it should be. I mean,
we get to this point and it's like
oh, well, the resurrection didn't
work. Oh, they're both on fire. Oh,
and by the way, somehow
Maniac Cop gets set on fire
at this point, because it wouldn't be a maniac
cop movie without him on fire.
Because, oh, I'm a monster.
and I love her and he picks up her body and he's carrying this flaming corpse so now he's a
flaming corpse too. And he gets in this police car and just drives off hilariously on fire.
There is a chase scene in this movie now. We jump ahead a little bit here where like Robert
Davy and this nurse like think, you know, oh, that's it. Thank God that's over with. And they're like in
the ambulance and uh by the way what does she see in him that's the best interruption that's
ever happened on this show and a genuinely good question no it's a damn fine question and it's like
maybe also even if you were into him which you're not why not have a date after after he gets
off of his crazy police caper yeah like they're making out in the hospital at one point earlier
Pretty hot and heavy.
Like another cop comes in and he's like, oh, sorry Robert Davy.
And he's like, you've got to be kidding me right now.
I was about to go find the man of the boat.
There's a lot of cock blocks in this movie.
A lot of cock blocks for a horror movie.
And honestly, that's also how this voodoo ceremony doesn't work because maniac cop wants lady maniac cop.
Can't have it.
So he's just going to set everybody on fire.
So they're in this ambulance.
They're driving down the street and it's like, oh, wow, what a day.
hey what's that and they look out the window and there is maniac cop a blaze
driving this cop car chasing after them it is ridiculous i mean it almost makes it
worth because it's just a guy on fire in this car it's some it's some serious stunt where you know
nowadays it would be cg yeah it would totally would be it wouldn't it wouldn't be it would be
inauthentic now this is this is a real maniac cop on fire great chase seed and then robert
Davy takes out his gun and shoots Maniac cop in the head like 50 times.
Like he empties this entire clip on him reloads and then empties another entire clip on him.
And it does nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Not a dent.
He's just firing blanks.
Here's a question relating to all that is happening right now.
So this man, this big Hulk of a man, is on fire driving a car.
driving a car in a good like you know five to six minute long chase scene how is this car not
instantly catching on fire and exploding how does he get this far without the car like melting
yeah you know movie law dictates that fire in a car equals a massive explosion exactly and he's
just driving down the street taking all these turns like it's a real sick car chaser on
he's parallel parking whilst on fire
Robert it's a little early for the electric car so let's not play that game
no no there is some gasoline and I mean even an electric car
there's oil in there somewhere probably some sort of flammable material
Robert Davy finally cracks this case because he takes
he takes this oxygen tank from the back of the ambulance
and hucks it into maniac cop squad car
and it doesn't do anything for a little while
Yeah, exactly.
It takes so long for the fucking fire to get to it.
It's probably more realistic.
I mean, that's true.
It's a very realistic film.
Well, I thought they were going to rip off jaws,
and he was going to have some line about like,
oh, one bullet, you know, shoot it.
I totally thought that too.
I thought they were going to jam it in his mouth.
I thought he was going to unhinge his jaw.
Dude, if he made a copse just chowing down on this O2 tank.
And then he blows up and he roars,
like some crazy.
echo he roars? It's like when that
Rottweiler, a man's best friend, eats the cat
and it unages his jaw to fit the cat
in. I mean, we've seen a man take
a whole chicken.
Right before this chase
scene ends, before the car blows up,
well, because that's the end of the movie, by the way.
Maniac cop blows up. Well, quickly, I want to
mention that during this, the chase
sequence, there are scenes
in which Maniac Cop
has other cars on the road getting too
close to his squad car where he takes his hand out
and shoves them with
his, he just shoves a car
with his hand and guess what? It works.
Oh yeah, he's throwing cars off the road like
fucking Donkey Kong.
Try it. Man, that will never
work. I don't care how abnormal
and spiritual and other
world that you are. Well, the only time
they really show his, well, the
using the human as
ski is pretty, that shows it,
but like it's a car door
off its hinges. Yeah, that's how he's
steals the police car that he drives around and he rips the fucking door off.
I thought this was maniac cop, not robocop.
You got a vampire cop?
Zombie cop.
That would be great.
Secret Nazi maniac cop.
So,
maniac cop explodes.
There's a hilarious bit where Robert Davy lights a cigarette off of maniac cop's
fucking blown up arm, which is pretty great.
Good for you.
And they walk off.
This is great.
It's, you know, it's L.A., but it's supposed to be New York.
and they're in some shitty warehouse neighborhood
and him and the nurse
just walk off into the night time together
and that's supposedly the end of the movie
we'll get to the twist in the second
but there is one line during this chase scene
that just pulls everything together
like so this nurse
or she's not a nurse excuse me
the doctor Dr. Fowler there
she's like totally terrified
about what's going on right now she can't believe
that a man on fire
is chasing them and because at no point
Has she been initiated to the maniac cop
lore whatsoever? Because Robert Davy
only found out five minutes ago that maniac
cops even in the same movie
as him. He just thinks he's in some police
corruption movie, but he's actually in
Maniac Cop Three Badge of Silence. He has no fucking
idea. They're driving in this car
and this woman just yells out
I hate this.
How perfect
is that? I just paused it
and I was like, me too, Dr. Fowler.
Me too.
Let's finish this movie.
So we cut to the morgue, you know.
Our heroes have walked off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
And they wheel in Maniac Kate's charred corpse.
Or no, Maniac Cop's charred corpse next to Maniac Kate, who's already there.
Yeah.
And this, like, mortician or whatever, you know, this morgue attendant sits down.
He's like watching TV or he's on the computer or something.
Look, there's divorce paperwork.
Fucking bitch ones, everything.
And we zoom in on the corpse's hand
And there's Maniac Cop's gloved hand
Comes out and holds this charred body
And we just cut
And that's credits
Dahl
What the fuck are you do?
Are you kidding me?
Come on.
Well, there's room for a sequel.
It's a hot romance.
I'm shocked this
And that's the movie, by the way.
I'm shocked
There hasn't been a reboot of any kind to this movie.
Honestly, I think it would be a good idea.
I feel like this is a franchise with a little more life in it yet.
Yeah, it's not completely, you know, run out of gas.
Why aren't you remaking this one, Michael Bay?
If we can have 22 Friday the 13th movies.
Exactly.
And it's something that's like, I mean, I'm sure there's big fans of this franchise out here
because there's fans of everything everywhere.
But like, this franchise isn't as precious as something like a Friday the 13th or a Nightmare on Elm Street.
There's improvements to be made.
There's improvements to be made in all those movies.
But I'm just saying, like, if you were to reboot Maniac Cop and, like, you know, explain to me why
Maniac Cop has these psychic powers or whatever, I wouldn't be like, how dare, you know, like,
in that Friday the 13th remake, it's like, oh, we're going to show you how Jason gets around
the forest so fast.
That is the dumbest, his tunnel town underneath Crystal, like, just stop it.
That's one of the great things about, like, these 80 slashes and stuff is there's a lot of
And for some reason.
And then he comes back from the dead for some reason.
And you know what?
That's fine.
Leave it.
A little ambiguity never killed anyone.
No, it didn't.
Except maybe, you know, Maniac Cop.
Yeah.
He wasn't killed by ambiguity.
He was killed because of his values.
T'was Beauty killed the Beast.
And a huge explosion.
The beauty of Maniac King.
That I'd love it if Maniac Cop fell off the Empire State Building at the end of this movie.
He got shot.
down by a bunch of red barren fighter planes
would anybody recommend this movie
uh i would actually
i mean it's it moves along on a clip
it's pretty damn crazy
um yeah i mean i enjoyed myself
it's certainly not a strong
recommend but it's a recommend
there have been a way worse
movies than this
but it's still not that good and like
the fact that the maniac cop one and maniac
top two are just sitting right there.
Like, those are the ones you need to see.
Yeah.
And if you feel like you need to see more after that, do three.
But otherwise, I wouldn't go into it without seeing the other ones.
Yeah, totally.
It's a light recommend for me.
It's a totally ridiculous movie.
It's a completely ridiculous movie.
But no, I am okay with those first two movies, actually.
I think the first one's pretty cool.
Then the second one's a fine sequel.
First one's got old what's his name, Drunky McWhiskey Face from Holland.
Halloween 3.
No.
Tom Atkins
is in that first
Maniac cop.
He is.
It's pretty great.
But yeah, I mean,
this one is like,
if you really like
the first two
and you haven't
quite had your belly
filled with Maniac Cop movies,
check out part three,
I guess.
I don't know.
There's no real reason
to watch this movie
because it is Maniac Cop
without Maniac Cop.
If you're watching
these Maniac Cop movies
because you love
maniac cop movies,
you're going to
kind of disappointed. If you're watching this movie
because you're a William Lustig
completest, that's fine.
And that's something I wanted to point out really
quickly. This dude has an impressive
directorial filmography.
I'll just close the app on the iPad here.
All right. So just real quick, this dude's
a solid director. Check out
Maniac from 1980, the original
Vigilante from
83. Then Maniac
Cop. Hit List is kind of
a good movie. Maniac
Cop 2. He also directed
that hilarious Uncle Sam, which I keep meaning to check out.
Oh, yeah, I've been dying to see that.
Dying to see that.
By the way, Vigilante's got a lot of great on-location New York stuff.
There's like Greenpoint, Brooklyn, in the dirty 80s.
It looks great.
So does, I think, the first maniac, the actual maniac, is also on location.
Yeah, it is.
New York.
And, you know, as I mentioned on Chudmuntary, I'm a sucker for that.
Well, also in that movie, Mandy.
you get to see how Grotie the subways used to be.
Like now, I thank the Lord for every subway I see.
If a homeless man takes a shit on the subway platform,
like at least it's not what maniac looked like.
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